I thought that was too high of a E.C so I deluded it to 1.6 E.C and [email protected] 5.9. Now I think that was still too high. Some leafs have burnt edges,spots some curl up some curl down.
And your tips are clawing, which means a nutrient problem.
I spray them with push every 5 days or so. If the leafs are clawing does that mean too much nutrients?
1.6 ec sounds high for 60 days...or that plant.. depends on your scale..plant that small I'd run like .6 on a 700 scale..your tap water is .6? That's crazy high..imo anything over 200 ppm.should run though ro.
I run V&B at just about the same dosage and I use a little more calmag than they recommend but I start with RO water and don't use push. Imo, considering your starting water, you should be at nearly zero calmag and using push sparingly. I remember the instructions on their website not being super clear when I started with V&B, so if I were you I would start there and make sure you really understand the protocol.
@3balls what dosage are you using and what's your E.C if you don't mind me asking, I'm using the Tap/Hard Veg+bloom. Water quality between 0.3-0.7 E.C. Im running my tap water through a filter now the E.C has dropped to 0.3 I lowered the veg+bloom dosage to 1.1E.C. And PH @5.8 and I'll try less calmag. The runoff was 1.1E.C and PH 6.4 is that ok?
That's an 8 week schedule.for 10 weekers I extend the 1-34 feed until day 48.
What to expect ? Alot of stretch the 1st 2 weeks,huge roots,and the need for almost daily feedings.The later flower thing would be how explosive that shine is when the base it cut.
I've had great results with the Thunderfudge recipe. Keep in mind I'm in RO water so my minerals are stripped and need replenished with calmag. RO water is 0.0 EC and takes +/- 1.33 ml per gal to reach .03EC.
Thanks a lot @3Balls with the RO water at 0.0 EC, Do you add calmag first to bring RO water to 0.3 EC? Then add 4 grams of base,.2 grams of life correct?What is your EC or ppm after you mix it together? I did almost the same dosage but with tap water @0.6 EC and my EC was 1.8. Maybe with RO my EC Would be at 1.2.
Push is calmg from what remember. Most likely water schedule.
I "structure" the starting water to about .9 by adding 3ml per gal CM then let is mix about 10min. Then add base and Life. This formula is about 3 times the amount of CM as recommended but I don't use Push, I do add a little silica. Your plant doesn't look horrible, given your hard tap water, my suggestion would be following the Thunderfudge recipe but going 1.5ml per gal CM opposed to 3ml and stop using Push.
Here are more pictures of the Jungle Cake. Still in veg, It's looking a little better now. Gonna try the thundrefudge recipe but with 1.5ml of CM. And hold off on the push to see what happens. Thanks for the help 3balls & Thc farmers.
If I had to hazard a guess I'd say the 0.6 coming out of your tap contains a lot of calcium and that's binding up with potassium and throwing your NPK out of whack.
Also, if you feed full strength balanced nutrients with RO you shouldn't need to use Cal mag at all, quality nutrients have enough of both already. I haven't used that stuff in over 15 years.
Sorry I must have misread the first post, you were also adding calmag to that already hard water? I would totally stop doing that for good. Thats almost 100% your problem. Cal mag is really only for use with RO and only if you see a deficiency, but again that should be rare with a good nutrient.
Not sure if its feasible but If I were you I'd think about cutting your water 50/50 with store bought RO or rainwater so you can get more fertilizer in your nute mix. Ideally start with water that's 0.2ec or less. Pretty sure what you're getting is potassium lockout from too much calcium.
Thanks dirtbag, I'll give that a try next feeding. 0 Calmag. I'm using v+b tap/hard it says for water between 0.3-0.7EC Would it be a problem to go down to 0.2 starting water?
I looked up my city's water report but it doesn't say much about calcium or magnesium just says N/A on those categories. I'm thinking best bet would be RO water and bring it up to 0.3 with tap water does that sound right?