evidence: ON JUNE 13th Subrahmanyam Jaishankar, India’s Minister of External Affairs, sat down for an interview with The Economist at his office in South Block in central Delhi. He offered his views of India’s relationships with America, China and Russia and its effort to be a leader of the global South. He also laid out his vision of India’s long-term future role in the world. This is a transcript of the conversation, lightly edited for length and clarity.