evidence: Carney: Well, in a few ways. Again, I’m from Greenwich Village, I wanted to think that there was a conservative real America, where people get married and go to church and have babies and are pro-life and all of that stuff. And that there was a liberal, elite, decadent America where they’re probably all swingers like in some of those movies. I kind of knew that second part wasn’t true, but finding out the brokenness of a lot of real America was one thing. Another thing was a more sober understanding of free trade in the 20th century and what it did, that these factories down and the manufacturing went overseas.