evidence: Yeah, well, we'll see how that works this year. And another animal that can climb our porcupines. They're quite adept at climbing, but I don't really think a porcupine so much as a pest of vegetables as much as fruit. So we often recommend people fence off their fruit plantings mostly for deer. But is there anything you can do with that deer fencing to also keep porcupines from climbing over [...] I guess maybe the good news with porcupines is that they're often not issues and more seldom issues they're not maybe coming to your furniture is day after day after day. It's kind of a the occasional hit. Although when they do hit, it's often pretty devastating. [...] Yeah. And I know sometimes for small home orchard plantings, people may actually protect individual trees, which I think probably could help with porcupines quite a bit.