evidence: Scanlan: Well, growing up, I swam with boys, and I always knew that they were always faster than me. Didn’t matter who they were, always faster. I think part of this situation, the reason why the Lia situation blew up so much bigger is that Lia’s times as Will, so will Thomas on the men’s side, had faster times in all the female world records in all those events, which is very drastic. Not every male who competes is going to be at that level. And for me, I was worried genuinely because I didn’t know how much you’d slow down if you take these hormones. And it’s still unclear at best. And I was very worried that if Lia showed up and swam the exact same times Will did, obviously that didn’t quite happen, they would break world records. And that really opened my eyes to how dramatic it could be. Obviously, every instance of a male competing is not that dramatic. But to be clear, I’ve trained with boys my entire life growing up. I trained with boys in college as well. They’re always faster. They always are.