evidence: Clark Grant: It’s fine Bernie. [...] So I called him up. I said, ‘Hey Tommy, I hear you would like to build the gym for central.’ He said, ‘Yeah I would Bernie.’ So we met with him, me and Donnie. So we met with him and he says, ‘Hey, I’ve made enough money in construction. I know how to build things. I know where to buy toilets. I know how to do this thing right. And I don’t wanna make any money.’ And he says, ‘I’ll give you $200,000 right off the start.’ And he did. He gave us $200,000. And we had all the guys on the committee, 30 guys, make their pledge. And pretty soon, we had like $750,000 and we were like, wow, we can make this thing happen. [...] Grant: Well maybe on a more positive note - I just have a couple more questions Bernie - you know, the KC project. You’ve demonstrated such perseverance there. What keeps you going on that?