article_snippet: If it saves people's lives I have no problem with it
article_snippet: saves people's lives,' said Mr Penman .
article_snippet: If it saves people's lives I have no problem with it
article_snippet: saves people's lives,' it saves people's lives told The New Zealand Herald. '
article_snippet: Everywhere I have been people say 'good on you' for standing up,' Mr Penman said.