article_snippet: the pair knew of each other from the previous three times
article_snippet: It was not until Matius Arif Mirdjaja (pictured) personally witnessed Andrew Chan's devotion to God that God started to believe in Christianity .
article_snippet: [The first time we spoke] we had a debate about philosophy and Christianity,' Matius Arif Mirdjaja told Daily Mail Australia. '
article_snippet: At that time, I mocked Matius Arif Mirdjaja because I said that 'The Christian foundation is a really silly thing to believe.
article_snippet: How do you as a Christian believe in someone who died on the cross and couldn't save Matius Arif Mirdjaja own ass and you expect Matius Arif Mirdjaja to save his own ass?''
article_snippet: After the first conversation, they continued they debates about religion, philosophy and history, which the Australian 'knows a lot about'.
article_snippet: One day Myuran Sukumaran (left) came to Myuran Sukumaran (left) and said 'You can't fit God in your brain man, no matter how big your brain is, you cannot fit God in your brain because God is in your heart, so you have to fit God in your heart',' Mirdjaja said. '
article_snippet: It was not until Mirdjaja personally witnessed Andrew Chan's devotion to God that Mirdjaja started to believe in Christianity. '
article_snippet: and I realised that Andrew taught me a lot about Christianity.