i thought long and hard whether i could avoid talking about family and personal life and just share the excitement of being a scientist and how science continues to sustain us all . but so many people , especially younger scientists , want to know , and always ask ,  how did you do it ? a woman from iran , a middle eastern country and essentially muslim , now considered backward and misguided , if not downright scary , traveling very young and alone to the united states , finishing college and graduate school together with having children in your first year of graduate school and during your second postdoc year , going against a number of entrenched dogmas , and yet succeeding against many odds and obstacles , and all the while on soft money ?  first , a few facts : iran used to be called persia , which confuses many in the united states , who also do nt know that iranians are not arabs and before the seventh century were zoroastrians one of the first monotheistic religions before christ  and the name has been iran for thousands of years  it means  the land of aryans . it was alexander the great who brought his army to the capital of iran in the province of pars ( hence persia ) and burned the persepolis , the palace of the kings of iran . photo credit : shoey sindel ( shoey@shoeysindel.com ) , berkeley , ca , 2016 mina bissell ( wearing hat ) , her husband monty , and their children and grandchildren . so , when people ask ,  how ? ! ,  the answer i give is :  badly ! almost no one does it perfectly or even well , but the trick is to choose what you love to do and persist ! i persisted . but i believe it is precisely because of my background in iran that i could persist in the era of mad men in the 1960s and 1970s , even in the face of some amazingly bad behavior from a number of men in charge . my daughter and son are well educated , are  spreading good  in ways other than typical academia , and have happy families . my father was the first of 10 children , a lawyer with a phd from france . three of my five uncles were judges , prosecutors , and attorneys , and one was a medical professor who spoke seven languages fluently and was also an accomplished poet ! almost 100 years ago , all my aunts were college educated , and one had a phd from the sorbonne in french literature . one was a principal of a school , and three were not professionals , but all were socially and politically involved , and two of their daughters were still playing in repertory theater despite being married . i never saw one of them with even a scarf over her head , let alone what is referred to as a hijab ,  despite the fact my grandfather was a highly respected ayatollah ( not a  mullah  ) and a descendant of at least five generations of ayatollahs ! first sons were supposed to go to divinity school , become well educated in all forms of religion , and follow in their fathers footsteps . but my father not only had zero intention of joining the clergy , he had no use for religion . yet he and my grandfather were great friends ; they looked upon one another as equals . my grandfather was a scholar , like many in those days , an amazingly educated and thoughtful man . he despised intolerance , and one of his closest friends and advisers was a well - educated iranian , mr . zoroastrians , muslims , jews , christians , armenians , and many other religions were well integrated in iranian society and had been since the times of cyrus the great , and the shahabi family remained very close friends of our family and helped my mother for a year when my father became very ill with typhoid fever , in those days a deadly disease . my grandfather was one of the reasons i ended up in united states rather than england , which was where my father wanted me to go for my education . my father believed all religions are sources of much exploitation , wars , and misery . he held either we were reasoning humans , understood our responsibilities to our fellow humans , including our families and ourselves , or we were nt ! ( as did his father , and now best exemplified by the magnificent current pope ) , most did more harm than good . he would debate my sister and me across the lunch table and would tell us we could join any profession we wanted as long as we could maintain our integrity . he was a fantastic orator and was known to defend people from all levels of society if they were victims of injustice or victims of the regime in charge at that moment ! this meant helping both the shah s enemies and the shah s supporters , even if they were on opposite sides ! in retrospect , my father was one of my early heroes and the reason i have lived my life the way i have . one of my mentoring points to mothers of sons and young men : if fathers believe in their daughters and have high expectations for both sexes , many of their daughters will succeed in having productive and satisfying lives . on the maternal side , there was less interest in scholarly pursuits and no interest in politics , but one aunt was a u.s .- educated medical doctor and the chair of immunology at tehran university , and the other was in public health ; one uncle was in government , and the other was a professor of mathematics in the united states . the only member of this extended family who had not finished college was my mother . her father was assassinated at the age of 27 in the ghajar dynasty court , and despite being loved by all , including her two daughters , she felt inadequate and wanting in holding her ground intellectually , and at times was deeply unhappy . she found it degrading to be financially dependent on my father but was too proud to ask her mother for money . she drilled my sister and me to pursue higher education and become independent no matter what . i think , even without reading virginia woolf s a room of one s own ( 1921 ) ( a book to read by both sexes , even though it was written in the 1920s ) , she had arrived at the same conclusion :  for a woman to succeed , she must have a room of her own and 500 pounds a year hence , one of my other key mentoring refrains is : there is huge dignity in work and earning your own living . i was born with what could be called a photographic memory for written and spoken words , a trait that surprised some grown - ups , who kept testing me for their amusement . this made me uncomfortable and separated me from my many cousins and friends in school . however , i lost quite a bit of this  gift  at age 8 , being a bit of a tomboy , climbing trees and engaging in sports and other unseemly behavior for girls in those days . while jumping over a high bar set between two columns with nothing but hard ground underneath ( a contrivance of one of my boy cousins who was 15 years old ) , i fell hard and was bedridden for months but survived and recovered against all odds . the result was essentially complete loss of hearing in my left ear and loss of most of my photographic memory . despite the injury , i felt better integrated after recovery ! persians have a saying that i often still repeat : enemy can bring  good ,  if goodness is willing ! my mother , who i adored , never seemed to be interested in books and politics but understood quite early that i would be able to amount to something when i grew up ; she also understood how easily i would get hurt and how easily i cried when there was any kind of perceived injustice or unkindness , and she felt i needed some protection . ( i used to be teased mercilessly by my sister , who i looked up to and loved and who is still my best friend , and cousins alike , who would make me cry by making fun of my crying ! ) i liked nothing more than hiding and reading books , and she tried to help me become more integrated socially , including sending me to a ballet class ( although i was a bit too old at 10 ) . i loved it  even if i never could do the split no matter how hard i tried ! nevertheless , it actually allowed me to become more at ease , and made me more open , socially and otherwise . when talking about the significance of form and function in my studies , i often show slides of dancers and quote yeats s  among school children ,  as i did in a ted talk :  how can you tell the dancer from the dance ?  if you decide to have kids , try harder with them if they are loners , and do nt be a loner yourself ; there is wisdom in group activities , in scientific collaboration and team sports : we are born to be social creatures , and almost all of us have inherited the capacity for empathy from our ancestors and fellow creatures ( de waal , 2013 ) . i loved school ; it was effortless , and i was a top student in my primary and secondary schools for 12 years . in the last year , in the countrywide exams , i became the top student in the country . there are scores of children all over the world who could and will do many things better than i did in all areas if they have the opportunity . i received a medal and award from the shah of iran ( there are a couple of pictures of me with the shah , with me getting the medal and a book ) , and my fellowship for going abroad was not from a college in the united states but was earned by taking an exam for a special award given to five students in science , technology , engineering , and mathematics ( stem ) fields in that year in iran . my father felt the united states was too young a country to educate women , but i wanted to go to the united states , and as i said earlier , my grandfather  the ayatollah haeri mazandarani  explained to my father ,  she has earned it , she is good , and she deserves to go wherever she wants !  my father consented . i applied to a few universities in the united states by sending applications to the american friends of the middle east ( afme)a branch of the american government  where we had to send my application for a u.s . when the head of afme saw my application , he called my father ( who spoke reasonable english and , of course , french ) and asked for me to come see him . he suggested i should go to bryn mawr , one of the seven sister colleges in the united states ( analogous to the seven ivy league schools , which then accepted only male students ) , since to his mind  and later to my mind i knew nothing about the place , and luckily i was never asked to take the college entrance exam ! at this point , my english was quite elementary , but they let me in ! after a short stay in new york city to take a perfunctory english course , arranged with the help of my uncle , the math professor , i spent an enchanting two years at bryn mawr . but i did not enjoy english and arabic at all in high school , partly because , apparently along with the hearing loss in my left ear , i had also damaged the  nomic gland  behind the left frontal lobe and had difficulty even then remembering names , places , or anything to do with the left side of the brain that i had to memorize . but i liked literature in iran , and fell in love with english literature , because i love well - written words . to this day , she is my favorite teacher and at age 93 is one of my most beloved friends . i debated between majoring in english literature or chemistry , and the latter won out , mainly for practical reasons . i will always remain grateful to the head of the afme , the gentleman who cared enough and took the time to meet up with my father and me , and showed me the way . i never learned his name , since he died shortly after i had left for the united states , and i also found out much later from american newspapers that the afme was a front for the cia and behind a coup that toppled mossadegh , then the most popular , beloved , and democratically elected prime minister iran had ever had . for the young : politics matter in a democratic society . get involved if you want to keep democracy alive  please vote ! if you want to understand the times we live in now , please read and understand the history of different regions more deeply , particularly that of the middle east . in my sophomore year in college , in short order , i met a graduate student from harvard university who was iranian and was getting a phd in political science and economics ; he proposed and i said yes . i declared chemistry as my major , moved as a junior to radcliffe / harvard university , won the medal from the american institute of chemists as a junior , married in my senior year , and ended up being a vanishing cliffie ,  since i received my bachelor s degree in chemistry as one of the inaugural members of the  integrated  harvard class along with people like david botstein . my husband was still a graduate student , so i opted to stay in the area to get a phd in bacterial genetics from harvard medical school . this was eons ago , and at that time , there were 200 men and three women in the harvard medical school class that year , and the entire place had one woman faculty member . in the entering class in bacteriology , there were three men and three women ( the latter all cliffies ! ) . despite this early balance , after the first year , all three men left  they found hms to be too ingrown , too arrogant toward  outsiders ,  and too wanting in humanity . i had chosen to do my thesis with a progressive italian professor , luigi gorini , or rather , he chose me after i answered a difficult physics question in a high - resolution microscopy class ! he was already almost 70 years old but very active and a real wiz in bacterial genetics . but he still felt i should quit , because i was pregnantwhat would your mother say ?  my mother ( and father ) called quickly from iran to make sure i would not be quitting so much for the iranian parents who more than 50 years ago were more understanding than most western ones . when my daughter was two - and - a - half years old , i left my husband  a nice man , but somewhat incompatible with me as a life partner . it was a hard decision with a baby , but i felt i could raise her better by myself . i met my future husband , monty bissell , arguing over a centrifuge  he was a medical student who was doing a year of research in the bacteriology department and learning to play the cello , not necessarily in that order ! we married a year later and will be celebrating our 50th anniversary this coming july . i think he liked me because i was the size of his cello and talked back ! and i liked him because he was an english major in college , wrote beautifully written phrases , and towered over me ! deep down , he was also a poet and romantic . more so now than early on ; we had some aspect of our science in common but had entirely different styles in running labs . monty became the head of the liver center at university of california  san francisco ( ucsf ) and later the chief of the gi department and was admired not only for his science but also because he was successful in hiring terrific faculty . i was so proud that quite a few were outstanding women and that almost all his fellows loved him as a mentor . of course it is not easy to live with a guy who is a perfectionist in everything he does ( he even has perfect pitch ! ) , but making any marriage work is like science ; it takes patience and perseverance , originality and empathy , and the willingness to talk frankly with each other . but when it lasts by choice , it can be worth the effort , sometimes it even may feel like drinking a good aged wine . but get out fast if the other side is not capable or worth hard work and often makes your life miserable . alone does not mean lonely , and it often is the preferred course  another reason for having your own career . based on the existing literature , a model is presented that postulates a  dynamic reciprocity  between the extracellular matrix ( ecm ) on the one hand and the cytoskeleton and the nuclear matrix on the other hand . the ecm is postulated to exert physical and chemical influences on the geometry and the biochemistry of the cell via transmembrane receptors so as to alter the pattern of gene expression by changing the association of the cytoskeleton with the mrna and the interaction of the chromatin with the nuclear matrix . this , in turn , would affect the ecm , which would affect the cell , which journal of theoretical biology , 1982 based on the existing literature , a model is presented that postulates a  dynamic reciprocity  between the extracellular matrix ( ecm ) on the one hand and the cytoskeleton and the nuclear matrix on the other hand . the ecm is postulated to exert physical and chemical influences on the geometry and the biochemistry of the cell via transmembrane receptors so as to alter the pattern of gene expression by changing the association of the cytoskeleton with the mrna and the interaction of the chromatin with the nuclear matrix . this , in turn , would affect the ecm , which would affect the cell , which , journal of theoretical biology , 1982 when i wrote the above article , even my close colleagues who were my friends asked what i was smoking ! i had no intention of just postulating ; my students and fellows ( and often many undergraduates ) and i worked long and hard for more than three decades , essentially on one organ , the mammary gland , to unravel how the extracellular matrix ( ecm ) may talk to the nucleus and vice versa . the majority of the critics have come around , and the number of papers in the area of tumor microenvironment ( tme ) has increased logarithmically . the model i proposed  not the name , but the concept of ecm regulating gene expression at many levels and the roles of basement membrane and tissue architecture  is here to stay . dozens of our own papers have shown the significance and mechanism of interaction between the ecm and cytoskeleton and the nuclear matrix and chromatin . we showed in the early 1990s that the promoters of milk protein genes contained ecm - response elements and that loss of interaction of laminin 111 with integrins leads to loss of milk function and induction of apoptosis . in the presence of laminin - rich gels ( a 20% pure laminin 111 and rat - tail collagen gel can substitute for matrigel ) and certain oncogenic pathways , inhibitors can  revert  the malignant cells to a normal phenotype , despite the tumorigenic genome . together with a number of outstanding collaborators , including zena werb ( ucsf ) , ole william petersen ( copenhagen ) , cathy park ( ucsf ) , and more recently david lyden ( weill cornell medical college ) , we have explored many aspects of mammary gland morphogenesis , function , and homeostasis and breast cancer and exosomes , and have dared challenge other paradigms . there are , however , more than 30 interviews and write - ups listed on my website ( www2.lbl.gov/lbl-programs/lifesciences/bisselllab/main.html ) , a few of which i note in the reference list ( vaughan , 2002 ; abbott , 2003 ; flintoft , 2003 ; friedrich , 2003 ; graebner , 2003 ; bissell and devine , 2005 ; bonetta , 2005 ; novak , 2005 ; pon , 2005 ; cohen , 2006 ; klein , 2006 ; mason , 2006 ; schuldt , 2006 ; arry , 2007 ; blow , 2007 ; mervis , 2007 ; platoni , 2007 , 2008 ; shekhar , 2007 ; wong , 2007 ; beishon , 2008 ; marx , 2008 ; fleischman , 2009 ; kolata , 2009 ; lako and daher , 2009 ; short , 2009 ; yarris , 2009 ; hayden , 2010 ; zagorski , 2010 ; claiborn , 2011 ; bissell , 2015 ) . there are also scores of write - ups on our publications and press releases in the lawrence berkeley national laboratory archives ( today at berkeley lab , https://today.lbl.gov ) , and then there are more than 400 publications from our laboratory ( also on the website ) . do you have any regrets ?  but of course ! even though i look at the bright side more often , and i am blessed with much , it takes extreme indifference and arrogance not to have regrets . so i would like to leave you with a sentiment that has resonated with me deeply . it is in a tiny , tiny book , may be even still on the web . it is the text of a convocation address to a graduating class at syracuse university given by george saunders . it brought tears to my eyes , and i envied him for putting it so well . here s something i know to be true , although it s a little corny , and i do nt know what to do with it : what i regret most in my life are failures of kindness
i thought long and hard whether i could avoid talking about family and personal life , and just share the excitement of being a scientist and how science continues to sustain us all . 
 but so many people , especially younger scientists , want to know  and always ask  how did you do it ? 
 a woman from iran , a middle eastern country and essentially muslim , now considered backwards and misguided if not downright scary , traveling very young and alone to the united states , finishing college and graduate school together with having children , first - year graduate school and second - year post doc 
 years ago , going against a number of entrenched dogmas , and yet succeeding against many odds and obstacles , and all the while on soft money ? 
 below is my personal narrative answering some of these questions .