In 2013 , when she was asked if Jesus was black or white , she responded that the issue was " irrelevant . " She added , " Whether He 's white , black , Hispanic , whatever you want to call Him , what 's important is that people find meaning in His life . " In the wake of the 2015 Charleston church shooting , Swain suggested the removal of the Confederate battle flag from the South Carolina State Capitol might exacerbate tensions between blacks and whites , adding that " It was easy to focus on the flag , as opposed to the issues that have divided blacks and whites historically . " In July 2016 , Swain criticized Black Lives Matter , suggesting it was " a Marxist organization " and " a very destructive force in America . " She reiterated that it was " pure Marxism " and concluded that it " needs to go "
Charleston church shooting
Charleston church shooting
Carol M. Swain