In a BBC interview , Abbas explained his philosophy of jihad . Abbas stated that he believes it is acceptable to fight and kill foreign forces occupying Muslim countries . He gives as examples the Soviets in Afghanistan , the Americans in Iraq and the Philippine army occupying what he describes as ancestral Muslim lands in Mindanao . According to Abbas , the killing of innocent civilians - men , women and children - is forbidden . Abbas uses his position to criticize the modern violent jihad philosophy , outlined by Palestinian Abdullah Azzam , acknowledged to be the " father " of modern violent jihad . He stated in his interview the 202 civilian deaths in the 2002 Bali bombings gave him pause . Abbas actively assisted the police in tracking down and arresting some of his former comrades . He explains that from that point on , he tried to persuade his former comrades that their interpretation of the Quran was wrong , and urged them to " return to the right path of Islamic teaching " .
2002 Bali bombings
2002 Bali bombings
Nasir Abbas