Watching myself on video always makes me cringe, but doubly so when I’ve expressed an idea badly. This quote makes it sound like I'm discouraging people from learning music, enjoying music, or improving their craft — I didn’t mean to and that's my fault, not the interviewer’s ( @harrystebbings is a pro).

I've been playing piano since age 4 and bass since 13. I still play literally every day (I have both a piano and a bass in my office), and it brings me immense joy. I encourage everyone I know to find joy in music in their own way.

But there are two unfortunate and common cases where people miss out on the joys of making music: (a) people who drop their craft out of frustration before they get good enough to truly enjoy it and (b) people who struggle through, learn an instrument to a high level, and then drop it because they couldn’t keep up with the practice or it became stressful. How many people do you know who stopped playing their instrument when they left high school?

This is what I was referring to, not undermining the value of practice — which is valuable whether for instruments, tools like Suno, or (apparently) talking on a podcast.

Music is my life, not just my job, and a huge part of Suno is making that joy accessible to more people in more ways.