what do you believe  we have been discussing the last 2-3 years  . liv was never ever never expected to last for more than 6 months . it was formed to destroy the pgat , and all but did , but  jay , instead of selling out for more money than you could imagine , formed a coalition of billionaires to fight back ... jay is a major sports hero for fighting back and not selling out .... the point iS all this discussion is moot .. LIV WAS NEVER MEANT TO LAST THIS LONG . IT WAS NEVER A WORKABLE PLAN