On the subject of Californians being a problem for other states. I have a slightly different opinion. I am surrounded by people from other states who have played a big part in ruining my once great state of CA. I often wish the non Californians would all go home. I am born and raised in CA. I think what it is that happens is we just attract crazy liberals. They can't make it in their state because other states won't bend to them so they come here.