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Title: Bad Estes!
Review: I wish they'd stop selling this plastic garbage under the same name as their actual decent products. These things are two flight turds at best. For the most part a backyard flier meant to capture the imagination of the next generation of model rocketry hobbyists, junk like this does more harm than good. My guarantee; within one pack of motors, both of these will be reduced to a collection of parts, none of which should even try to be recycled.
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