CBC News: The National | Alberta separatism tensions
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[{'start': '26.325', 'end': '34.166', 'text': '"THE N  [♪♪♪]  >> TONIGHT, FRESH OFF HIS   ELECTION WIN AND GEARING UP TO   TAKE ON DONALD TRUMP, MARK   CARNEY IS ALSO FACING A TEST   FROM WITHIN CANADA.  >> IF OTTAWA HAD ITS WAY   ALBERTANS WOULD BE LEFT TO   FREEZE IN THE DARK.  >> Heather: POINTED WORDS FROM   DANIELLE SMITH AS THE ISSUE OF   ALBERTA SEPARATISM HEATS UP   AGAIN.  >>> PLUS, WHAT CARNEY NEEDS TO   DO IN THE FIRST DAYS OF A    NEW MANDATE.  "AT ISSUE" WILL WEIGH-IN ON   THAT.  >>> AS CANADA\'S MEASLES   OUTBREAK CONTINUES TO GROW,   CONCERN OVER WHO\'S AFFECTED AND  WHO\'S NOT.  [indiscernible].   >> Heather: WHAT HEALTH   OFFICIALS ARE TRYING TO DO TO   HALT THE SPREAD.  >>> SHAMED AND CHASED OUT OF   THEIR COMMUNITY.  >> WE\'RE UPHOLDING OUR OLD   LAWS.  >> Heather: A FIRST NATIONS   DEALING WITH VIOLENCE TAKES   MATTERS INTO ITS OWN HANDS.  [♪♪♪]  >> Heather: THANK YOU FOR   JOINING US.  ADRIENNE IS ON ASSIGNMENT   TONIGHT.  >>> WE HAVE CONFIRMATION   TONIGHT THAT MARK CARNEY IS   GETTING READY TO LAY OUT HIS   TOP PRIORITIES IN A MATTER OF   HOURS, GETTING READY TO HOLD   HIS FIRST NEWS CONFERENCE SINCE  HE WON THE ELECTION, FACING   ISSUES FROM A U.S. PRESIDENT   THREATENING CANADA\'S   SOVEREIGNTY TO A PREMIER   PUSHING FOR HER PROVINCE\'S   SOVEREIGNTY.  AS JULIA WONG SHOWS TONIGHT, IF  ENOUGH ALBERTANS SUPPORT A   REFERENDUM OF ANY KIND, SHE\'S   MADE IT CLEAR SHE\'S WILLING TO   LISTEN.  >> Reporter: DAYS AFTER A   FEDERAL ELECTION, DANIELLE   SMITH HAS COME UPSWING.  A RENEWED CAMPAIGN FOR ALBERTA   TO SEPARATE FROM CANADA.  IT COMES AFTER NEW LEGISLATION   BY SMITH\'S GOVERNMENT THAT   MAKES IT EASIER TO FORCE THE   PROVINCE TO HOLD A REFERENDUM.  WHILE SMITH SAYS SHE\'S NOT   PUSHING FOR SECESSION, SHE SAYS  THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS DONE  LITTLE TO HEAL A FRACTURED   RELATIONSHIP.   >> WE HAVE NO CONSULTATION IN   REGARDS TO THIS AT ALL.  >> Reporter: THIS FIRST NATIONS  CHIEF SENT A LETTER TO THE   PREMIER, ONE OF MANY SAYING   SEPARATIST SENTIMENTS BREACH   TREATY RIGHTS.   >> IT HAS TO STOP.  IT\'S FEARMONGERING.  >> Reporter: TREATY AGREEMENTS   ARE SACRED AND SHOULD COME   BEFORE A PROCESS LIKE A   REFERENDUM ACCORDING TO THIS   EXPERT.   >> ALBERTA THINKS THAT JUST IN   A POLITICAL CONVERSATION IT CAN  MUSE OR JUST THINK ABOUT THE   POSSIBILITY OF SEPARATING   WITHOUT INVOLVING FIRST NATIONS  PEOPLE AS A SIGN OF DISRESPECT.  >> Reporter: THE PREMIER   PRESSED ON THE ISSUE.   >> I JUST FEEL LIKE I\'M NOT   GETTING A RESPONSE   [indiscernible].   >> WELL, I\'M NOT GOING TO   PREJUDGE WHAT CITIZENS ARE   GOING TO DO.  ONCE THERE\'S A PETITION ON THE   TABLE AND THERE\'S AN ACTIVE   DISCUSSION FOR CITIZENS HAVING   ACHIEVED THE REQUISITE NUMBER   OF SIGNATURES I\'D BE HAPPY TO   ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.  >> CANADIANS EXPECT US TO GET   DOWN TO WORK DEFENDING THIS   COUNTRY AND I DON\'T WANT US TO   WORRY ABOUT A SEPARATIST   ARGUMENT THAT\'S SUCH A FRINGE   ARGUMENT.  >> Reporter: FORMER ALBERTA   PREMIER JASON KENNEY IS ALSO   WARNING AGAINST SEPARATISM.  CBC NEWS ALSO REACHED OUT TO   THE PRIME MINISTER\'S OFFICE FOR  REACTION BUT DID NOT HEAR BACK.  PRIME MINISTER MARK CARNEY IS   EXPECTED TO HAVE A CONFERENCE   AROUND THAT.  THERE\'S A RECENT ANGUS REID   POLL THAT SHOW THAT ONE IN FOUR  ALBERTANS WOULD SUPPORT THE   PROVINCE LEAVING THE COUNTRY.  ALSO, 28% OF ALBERTANS VOTED   FOR THE LIBERALS IN MONDAY\'S   ELECTION.  >> Heather: CBC NEWS WILL HAVE   SPECIAL COVERAGE AS MARK CARNEY  LAYS OUT HIS NEW GOVERNMENT   PRIORITIES TOMORROW.  THAT COVERAGE BEGINS AT   11:00 A.M. EASTERN, 8:00   PACIFIC, LED BY "POWER &   POLITICS" HOST DAVID COCHRANE   ALONG WITH OUR CHIEF POLITICAL   CORRESPONDENT ROSEMARY BARTON.  YOU CAN WATCH ON CBC NEWS   NETWORK OR ANYWHERE YOU STREAM   CBC NEWS.  >>> NOW AHEAD OF THE   CONFERENCE, TONIGHT, ROSIE AND   "AT ISSUE" TEAM WILL WEIGH-IN   ON CARNEY\'S FIRST DAYS IN FIRST  AS WELL AS WEIGH-IN ON PIERRE   POILIEVRE, AS WELL.  THAT\'S UP IN ABOUT 25 MINUTES.  >>> QUEBEC HAS CHANGED THE LINE  OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS, WITH   THE BLOC QUEBECOIS FLIPPING A   SEAT HELD BY THE BLOC.  THE CHANGE WEAKENED THE LIBERAL  GOVERNMENT SLIGHTLY TO 168   SEATS.  THE FINAL RESULT IS STILL   PENDING A JUDICIAL RECOUNT.  >>> BREAKING TONIGHT, CANADIAN   AUTO PARTS MANUFACTURERS ARE   GETTING A REPRIEVE FROM DONALD   TRUMP\'S TARIFFS.  THE U.S. CUSTOMS AGENCY SAYS   PARTS NOW COVERED BY FREE TRADE  RULES WILL BE EXEMPTED.  NISHA PATEL IS HERE WITH MORE   ON THIS.  NISHA, MANUFACTURERS WERE   BRACING FOR TARIFFS.  WHAT CHANGES WITH THIS?  >> Reporter: WELL, IF THE PART   FOLLOWS THE TRADE RULES THERE   WILL BE NO TARIFF.  DESPITE ALL OF THAT, THAT   SOFTENING OF THOSE MEASURES,   THERE\'S STILL A LOT OF   UNCERTAINTY ACROSS THE   INDUSTRY.  >> COMPANIES ARE ANXIOUS.  THEY\'RE WORRIED ABOUT BEING THE  ONES TO SHUTDOWN FIRST,   CONCEDES THE MARKET SPACE TO   SOMEBODY ELSE THAT SHOULD NEVER  GET BACK.  >> Reporter: CAR MAKERS ARE   WARNING THAT EVEN REDUCED   TARIFFS WILL HURT COSTS AND   SALES.  ONE EXPERT SAID ROLLING BACK   THE TARIFFS INSTEAD OF GETTING   RID OF THEM ENTIRELY IS LIKE   PUTTING A BAND-AID ON A BULLET   WOUND.  GENERAL MOTORS SAYS IT EXPECTS   IT COULD TAKE A $5 BILLION HIT   THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF TARIFFS.  STELLANTIS SAYS IT\'S ALSO   TAKING A HIT.  THE COMPANY SAYS IT\'S PLANNING   ON MOVING SOME MANUFACTURING   FROM MEXICO TO MICHIGAN.  THAT\'S THE POINT OF THE TARIFFS  ACCORDING TO DONALD TRUMP, BUT   MOVING OPERATIONS BACK TO THE   U.S. COULD TAKE YEARS.  >> Heather: A MAJOR SHAKE UP AT  THE WHITE HOUSE.  MIKE WALTZ HAS BEEN TURFED IN   THE ADMINISTRATION.  AS PAUL HUNTER EXPLAINS, THE   WALTZ DEPARTURE WAS A LONG TIME  COMING.  >> Reporter: ON THE LEFT,   DONALD TRUMP\'S THEN-EMBATTLED   NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR   MICHAEL WALTZ ARRIVING AT THE   WHITE HOUSE WITH WORDS SOON TO   EMERGE HE WAS GONE.  THE SHAKE-UP, THE FIRST MAJOR   SHAKE-UP OF TRUMP\'S NEW   PRESIDENCY COMES AFTER WEEKS OF  PRESSURE ON WALTZ AND THE   REVELATION HE\'D ADDED A   PROMINENT JOURNALIST TO A U.S.   SECURITY GROUP TEXT CHAT ON THE  TEXTING GROUP SIGNAL.  THE CHAT CAME JUST AHEAD OF   THIS ASSAULT ON HOUTHI REBELS   IN YEMEN AND INCLUDED HIGHLY   SENSITIVE INFORMATION ON IT.  IN FEBRUARY, WALTZ ACCEPTED   RESPONSIBILITY FOR INCLUDING OF  ALL PEOPLE IN THAT CHAT, A   JOURNALIST.   >> WELL, IF HE HAD SOMEBODY   ELSE\'S CONTACT AND THEN IT GOT   SUCKED IN, IT GETS SUCKED IN.  >> Reporter: ON CAPITOL HILL,   WALTZ\' DEPARTURE APPLAUDED.  DEFENCE SECRETARY PETE HEGSETH   ALSO ON THE CONVERSATION.   >> THE SECRETARY OF DEFENCE   NEEDS TO BE FIRED AND SHOULD   HAVE BEEN FIRED BEFORE MR.   WALTZ.  >> Reporter: TRUMP QUICKLY   NOMINATING WALTZ TO BE   AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED   NATIONS, AND REPLACING WALTZ   FOR NOW, SECRETARY OF STATE   MARCO RUBIO.  WHEN THAT NEWS BROKE AMONG   JOURNALISTS, THE STATE   DEPARTMENT ITSELF SEEMED CAUGHT  OFF GUARD, INCLUDING EVEN ON   RUBIO.   >> DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG HE\'S   GOING TO BE SERVING IN BOTH   ROLES?  >> IT IS CLEAR THAT I JUST   HEARD THIS FROM YOU.  I HAD -- THIS IS -- THE   MAGIC -- [indiscernible] --   >> Reporter: THE STATE   DEPARTMENT SPOKES WOMAN   EVENTUALLY DESCRIBING THE DAY   AS AN EXCITING MOMENT, ADDING,   HEATHER, HER VIEW THAT IT\'S   ALL, QUOTE, GOOD NEW FOR THE   AMERICAN PEOPLE.  >> Heather: SO FIRST SHAKE-UP   OF THIS WHITE HOUSE, PAUL.  IS THERE MORE TO COME?  >> Reporter: WELL, PETE HEGSETH  STILL HAS TRUMP\'S FULL SUPPORT,  BUT ON SIGNAL-GATE, THERE\'S   MORE FOR WALTZ BEFORE HE CAN BE  CONFIRMED AS AMBASSADOR FOR THE  U.N., DEMOCRATS ANTICIPATING   FOR WALTZ THAT IT\'LL BE BRUTAL.  HEATHER?  >> Heather: PAUL, THANK YOU.  PAUL HUNTER IN WASHINGTON.  >>> UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT   ZELENSKY SAYS THE DEAL THAT HIS  COUNTRY SIGNED WITH THE U.S. IS  FAIR AND GOOD FOR BOTH   COUNTRIES, BUT IN UKRAINE   TONIGHT, THE DEAL IS GETTING A   COOL RECEPTION.  >> Reporter: RUSSIAN DRONES   TARGETED THE BLACK SEA CITY OF   ODESA ABOUT THE SAME TIME THAT   THE U.S. AND UKRAINE REACHED   THEIR HISTORIC AGREEMENT.  U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP   HASN\'T BEEN ABLE TO END THE WAR  AS QUICKLY AS HE VOWED BUT IT\'S  A KEY MOMENT.  WHILE UKRAINE WON\'T HAVE TO   DIRECTLY REPAY THE U.S. FOR   THAT, WASHINGTON SEES THIS DEAL  AS A MONEY MAKING OPPORTUNITY   BUT IT ALSO SAYS IT\'S A STRONG   SIGNAL OF ITS COMMITMENT TO A   SOVEREIGN STABLE UKRAINE.  UNDER THE DEAL THE U.S. GETS    PREFERENTIAL TO INVEST IN KEY   AND CRITICAL MINERALS.  IT ALLOWS THE UNITED STATES TO   MAKE MONEY IN PART, SAYS   UKRAINE PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR   ZELENSKY BUT IN UKRAINE SOME   ARE WARY.   >> MY OPINION IS THAT IT\'S   GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO MAKE A  DEAL AND WE\'RE NOT GOING TO BE   OCCUPIED BY RUSSIA BUT AMERICA.  >> [indiscernible].   >> SO IT\'S IMPORTANT TO   SIGNAL --   >> Reporter: THIS ECONOMIST   SAYS KYIV NEEDED TO SIGN THE   DEAL BUT EVEN THOUGH NOW THAT   U.S. PRESIDENT HAS MORE OF A   STAKE IN UKRAINE THIS DEAL   NEEDS TO BE TEMPERED.   >> IT DOESN\'T SHOW EXACTLY HOW   [indiscernible].   >> Reporter: SO FAR, RUSSIA HAS  REFUSED TO AGREE TO THE 30-DAY   CEASEFIRE.  WHILE IT APPEARS THAT TRUMP IS   GROWING MORE FRUSTRATED WITH   THE KREMLIN, THE WHITE HOUSE   HASN\'T FOLLOWED THROUGH ON ANY   OF ITS THREATS TO ROLL OUT ANY   MORE PUNISHING SANCTIONS.   >> Heather: PAKISTAN IS ON EDGE  TONIGHT, BRACING FOR AN ATTACK   FROM INDIA.  SALIMAH SHIVJI HAS MORE.  >> Reporter: THE OUTPOURING OF   RAW PAIN FOR ONE OF THE 26   VICTIMS OF THE TERROR ATTACK   HASN\'T FADED.  THE TARGET OF LAST WEEK\'S   VIOLENCE, TOURISTS VISITING THE  DISPUTED KASHMIR REGION, THE   DEADLIEST ATTACK ON CIVILIANS   IN 20 YEARS.  POLICE WARNING FOR RESIDENTS TO  STAY AWAY FROM MILITANT GROUPS.  THE VIOLENT HAS SENT TWO   NUCLEAR POWERS HURDLING TOWARD   THE BRINK OF WAR.  INDIA AND PAKISTAN CLAIM THE   ENTIRETY OF KASHMIR BUT EACH   ONLY OCCUPY PART OF IT.  THIS BORDER CROSSING BETWEEN   THE TWO COUNTRIES IS NOW SHUT,   THE AIR SPACE ABOVE IT CLOSED,   AND INDIA HAS SUSPENDED A   CREW-WATER SHARING TREATY -- A   KEY WATER SHARING TREATY THAT   PAKISTAN RELIES ON DOWNSTREAM.  THERE\'S NO EFFECT YET FROM   PUTTING THE TREATY ON HOLD BUT   PANIC AND PROTESTS SAYING NO TO  WATER TERRORISM ARE GROWING.  THERE\'S ALSO SEEING ANGER AND A  DESIRE FOR VENGEANCE DRIVING   INDIA\'S RESPONSE.   >> AT THE SAME TIME HE HAS TO   DELIVER A RESPONSE THAT\'S   PROPORTIONATE AND CALIBRATED.  >> Reporter: U.S. SECRETARY OF   STATE MARCO RUBIO HAS SPOKEN TO  BOTH SIDES, URGING CALM AMID   FEAR AND DEESCALATION.  SALIMAH SHIVJI, CBC NEWS,   MUMBAI.  >> Heather: IN THE NETHERLANDS   PEOPLE ARE SET TO HONOUR THE   CANADIAN SOLDIERS WHO LIBERATED  THEIR COUNTRY FROM THE NAZIS 80  YEARS AGO.  OUR SPECIAL COVERAGE BEGINS   TOMORROW AT 8:00 A.M. AND   ADRIENNE WILL BE BACK FOR MORE   COVERAGE ON "THE NATIONAL."  >>> JENNIFER YOON LOOKS AT THE   LATEST ON THE MEASLES OUTBREAK   AND THE FRUSTRATIONS FOR THOSE   TRYING TO KEEP IT IN CHECK.  >> Reporter: A CLIMBING GYM, A   RECREATION CENTRE, AND A   HOSPITAL, ALL AREAS IN AND   AROUND LONDON WHERE PEOPLE   COULD HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO   MEASLES.  ONTARIO IS REPORTING 320 NEW   CASES THIS WEEK, BRINGING THE   TOTAL TO 1,342 THIS YEAR.  IN THE HALTON REGION WEST OF   TORONTO LESS THAN A QUARTER OF   SEVEN-YEAR-OLDS ARE REPORTED TO  BE VACCINATED.  OFFICIALS SAY THE NUMBER MAY BE  HIGHER BUT THEY DON\'T HAVE A   CLEAR PICTURE.   >> PEOPLE WANT TO BE PROTECTED.  THEY JUST DON\'T KNOW HOW TO   REPORT.  >> Reporter: THAT HAS SOME   PARENTS ALARMED.   >> IT\'S SAD BECAUSE THERE ARE   THE GROUPS THAT DON\'T APPROVE   OF VACCINATIONS AND THEN THEY   CAN PUT EVERYONE AT RISK.  >> Reporter: MEASLES CAN LEAD   TO BRAIN INFLAMMATION AND EVEN   DEATH.  IT\'S PREVENTIBLE WITH A   TWO-DOSE VACCINE.  ALBERTA KEEPS A CLOSE EYE ON   VACCINATION RATES.  ONLY 72% OF GRADE SCHOOL KIDS   ARE IMMUNIZED, AND CASES ARE   RAMPING UP ACROSS THE PROVINCE,  193 TOTAL AS OF THURSDAY   INCLUDING IN UNDER VACCINATED   TOWNS LIKE TABOR.  >> THERE\'S A LOT OF   MISINFORMATION OUT THERE ABOUT   MEASLES VACCINES, ABOUT   VACCINES IN GENERAL.   >> WE NEED TO BE SEEING THE   MEDICAL OFFICER OF HEALTH   PROBABLY ON A WEEKLY BASIS.  WE NEED TO SEE VACCINATION   CLINICS POPPING UP.  WE NEED TO MAKE IT EASY FOR   PEOPLE.  >> Reporter: CBC HAS REPEATEDLY  REQUESTED INTERVIEWS WITH THE   CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICERS IN   ONTARIO AND ALBERTA.  SO FAR THEY HAVE NOT BEEN MADE   AVAILABLE.  JENNIFER YOON, CBC NEWS,   TORONTO.  >> Heather: QUEBEC PLANS TO   BRING IN A FULL CELL PHONE BAN   IN ALL ELEMENTARY AND HIGH   SCHOOLS STARTING NEXT FALL.   >> I WANT STUDENTS TO BE MORE   CONCENTRATED, I WANT STUDENTS   TO TALK TO ONE ANOTHER, I WANT   STUDENTS TO SUCCEED MORE.  >> Heather: THE USE OF CELL   PHONES, HEAD PHONES, OR OTHER   PERSONAL MOBILE DEVICES WILL BE  PROHIBITED ON SCHOOL GROUNDS,   INCLUDING ON BREAKS AND AT   LUNCH.  THEIR USE IS ALREADY BANNED IN   CLASSROOM.  ALSO, BY JANUARY 2026 STUDENTS   WILL BE ASKED TO ADDRESS SCHOOL  STAFF BY MR. OR MS. IN A BID TO  INCREASE CIVILITY AND RESPECT.  >>> TENSIONS ARE HIGH IN A B.C.  FIRST NATIONS COMMUNITY WHERE   ASSOCIATIONS OF A MAN ACCUSED   OF FIRST DEGREE MURDER ARE   BEING SHUNNED AND THEIR   PROPERTIES DEMOLISHED.  TURNING TO TRADITIONAL JUSTICE   TO KEEP A COMMUNITY SAFE, NEXT.  >>> PLUS NORTH AMERICA\'S   LARGEST DOCUMENTARY FESTIVAL   SHINES A SPOTLIGHT ON FILM   MAKERS FORCED FROM THEIR   HOMELAND.   >> MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE   HAVING TO FLEE THEIR COUNTRIES   BECAUSE OF WAR AND   DISPLACEMENT.  >> Heather: WE\'LL LOOK AT SOME   FILMS MADE IN EXILE AND THE   HARDSHIPS FACED BY THOSE WHO   MAKE THEM.  >>> AND LATER, CELEBRATING A   BREAK UP, YUKON ♪ ♪ [knocking] Well, hello, Jared. Come on in. So we are just on a quick break, a commercial break for  The National,  so figured we might as well show you around. Welcome to  The National  studio. And this is the bestest of the gang\'s here. This is Joe, Dino, Dave.  Oh, that\'s Steve,  the director.  And Dave is  hiding down here. Joe is the keeper of the jib. The jib is our favourite camera here. We do have other cameras, though. They are robo cams. They\'ve all been named. You see them as camera two. I know them by another name. We have some other toys in here. This one is this is our smartboard. We use this a lot for elections because, you know, you can interact with the board. Here\'s a sample question. How likely are you to vote in the presidential election? The best thing about this studio is that we can change the look of the lighting. So it can be all red, it can be blue, it can be red and blue for, say, an American election, red and white for a Canadian election. There\'s lots we can do. We\'ve got these beautiful, beautiful monitors here which are fantastic for photography. And we have some [chuckles] some quirky versatility. So when we have a lot of people in studio on panels, we can flip this up, there are legs here, so we can sit, seat a whole bunch of people around this desk. And then if you come around here, because fundamentally I am extremely short, there\'s like a little platform so that I can sit here with eventually my computer and the scripts and have view of all the cameras and the monitors and the lights, and we\'ll do the show. Speaking of which, got to go do it. Talk to you later. ♪ ♪ >> Heather: AS BAY STORES   CONTINUE LIQUIDATING INVENTORY,  A REPORT TONIGHT SAYS CANADIAN   TIRE HAS BID ON SOME OF THE   INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY HELD BY   HUDSON\'S BAY COMPANY.  THE CANADIAN PRESS CITES TWO   PEOPLE ASSOCIATED WITH THE   BIDS.  CANADIAN TIRE WOULD NOT   COMMENT.  >>> A FIRST NATIONS COMMUNITY   IN B.C. HAS BANISHED A GROUP OF  PEOPLE AFTER A MAN WAS KILLED   LAST MONTH ON HAIDA GWAII.  AS BRADY STRACHEN REPORTS, A   GROUP GATHERED IN THE COMMUNITY  AS THE FAMILY LEFT.  >> Reporter: AN ATTACK LAST   MONTH KILLED A 32-YEAR-OLD   FATHER.  IN THE WAKE OF HIS DEATH,   MULTIPLE HOMES IN THE BANDS   DEMOLISHED INCLUDING THE HOMES   OF THE FAMILY OF TYSON YOUNG,   THE MAN ACCUSED IN THE KILLING.  >> THIS IS REALLY A   DEMONSTRATION OF THE   FRUSTRATION OF MANY   ADMINISTRATIONS OUT THERE.  MANY FIRST NATIONS DEALING WITH  THE SALE OF ILLICIT DRUGS.  >> Reporter: THE FAMILY CROSSED  THE STRAIT ON THE FERRY AND   WERE MET WITH SEVERAL HUNDRED   KILOMETRES OF RESISTANCE ALL   THE WAY TO PRINCE GEORGE.  IN VIDEOS UPLOADED ON SOCIAL   MEDIA PEOPLE LINED THE HIGHWAY   TO SUPPORT THE VICTIM\'S FAMILY   AND TO SEND A MESSAGE THAT   THOSE BANISHED FROM HAIDA GWAII  ARE NOT WELCOME TO THEIR   COMMUNITIES, EITHER.   >> WHEN OUR ANCESTORS WERE   BANNED FROM THEIR TERRITORIES,   THE NEIGHBOURING TERRITORIES   AND ALL THE ALLIES THAT THEY\'VE  GOT, THEY\'RE NOT EXPECTED TO   SERVE THEM.  THEY\'RE EXPECTED TO PASS   THROUGH THE TERRITORY AND   CONTINUE ON, AND THAT\'S WHAT   WE\'RE DOING.  WE\'RE UPHOLDING OUR OWN LAWS.  >> Reporter: LAW ENFORCEMENT   STEPPED IN TO HANDLE THE LAWS,   MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE IS   SAFE FROM HARASSMENT.  THE RCMP ARE ASKING FOR CALM   AND FOR PROTESTERS TO RESPECT   THE COURT PROCESS.  POLICE SAY THEY KNOW WHERE THE   GROUP IS HEADING BUT THEY WON\'T  REVEAL THE LOCATION IN ORDER TO  PROTECT THEIR SAFETY.  >> Heather: INTERNATIONAL   CONFLICTS ARE DRIVING THE WORK   OF A NEW GENERATION OF   DOCUMENTARY FILM MAKERS.  >> WE THINK HAVING A PROGRAMME   THAT FOCUSES ON THESE VERY   ISSUES IS URGENT.  >> Heather: HOW THE HOT DOCS   FESTIVAL IS HONOURING FILMS   MADE IN EXILE.  >>> AND ROSIE IS HERE WITH "AT   ISSUE."  >> Rosemary: HEY, HEATHER.  WE\'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MARK   CARNEY\'S FIRST DAYS AS PRIME   MINISTER AND WHAT HIS   PRIORITIES ARE GOING TO BE.  SO WHAT ARE HIS ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [♪♪♪]  >> Heather: THIS YEAR\'S TONY   AWARD NOMINATIONS ARE OUT.  AUDRA McDONALD IS UP FOR LEAD   ACTRESS IN A MUSICAL FOR THE   REVIVAL OF GYPSY.  TONY WINNER CYNTHIA ARIVO HOSTS  THE BIG SHOW ON JUNE 8.  >>> NORTH AMERICA\'S LARGEST   DOCUMENTARY FILM FESTIVAL IS   HONOURING DOCUMENTARY FILMS   MADE BY DISPLACED FILM MAKERS.  MAKDA GHEBRESSLASSIE HAS MORE   ON THE IMPORTANT STORIES   THEY\'RE TELLING.   >> Reporter: A DOCUMENTARY   HIGHLIGHTS THE SACRIFICES OF   SUDANESE CITIZENS AND THEIR   LIVES DESTROYED.  AFTER WAR BROKE OUT IN 2023 THE  FILM\'S PARTICIPANTS AND CINEMA    CINEMATIC TEAM WERE FORCED TO   FLEE IN EXILE.   >> MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE   HAVING TO FLEE THEIR COUNTRIES   AMID DISPLACEMENT, SO I THINK   THAT HAVING AN EVENT THAT   FOCUSES ON THESE ISSUES IS   IMPORTANT.  [♪♪♪]  >> Reporter: OVER TEN YEARS,   THIS PRODUCER FILMED LIFE IN   HER HOME COUNTRY.   >> THE CONDITIONS IN GAZA, HOW   THEY HAVE THIS SPIRIT THAT I   EVENTUALLY ENDED UP CALL THE   PALESTINIAN SPIRIT.  >> Reporter: IT\'S ALSO A   DRIVING FORCE FOR THE FILM   MAKERS BEHIND THE LONGER YOU   BLEED.  THE DOC EXPLORES THE ENDLESS   STREAM OF WAR IMAGES ON SOCIAL   MEDIA AND THE TOLL THAT THE WAR  TAKES ON YOUNG UKRAINIANS.   >> IT\'S GIVING US A SPIRIT OF   UNITY WHICH I THINK IS VERY   CRUCIAL FOR MENTAL SANITY AND   FOR SURVIVAL.  >> Reporter: WHILE HOT DOCS   SAYS IT\'S DELIGHTED WITH THE   SUCCESS OF THIS YEAR\'S MADE IN   EXILE CATEGORY THE FUTURE OF   THE PROGRAMME REMAINS UNKNOWN.  MAKDA GHEBRESSLASSIE, CBC NEWS,  TORONTO.  >> Heather: TIME NOW TO DIG   DEEPER INTO THE STORIES SHAPING  OUR WORLD AND THE "AT ISSUE"   EXPECTATIONS FOR THE PRIME   MINISTER\'S FIRST WEEK.  >> Rosemary: "AT ISSUE," MARK   CARNEY IS WORKING ON ISSUES IN   RELATION TO HIS GOVERNMENT.   >> President Donald Trump: HE\'S  A VERY NICE GENTLEMAN AND HE\'S   GOING TO COME TO THE WHITE   HOUSE VERY SHORTLY, WITHIN THE   NEXT WEEK OR LESS.  >> Rosemary: SO WHAT WILL BE   THE PRIME MINISTER\'S FIRST   MOVES?  WHAT\'S AT STAKE IN HIS FIRST   MEETING WITH DONALD TRUMP?  HERE TO BREAK IT DOWN FOR THE   THIRD TIME THIS WEEK, CHANTAL   HEBERT, ANDREW COYNE, AND   ALTHIA RAJ.  >> TRUMP IS A PRIORITY FOR   OBVIOUS REASONS AND I\'M   GUESSING THAT MEETING IS GOING   TO TAKE PLACE SOONER RATHER   THAN LATER.  I DON\'T EXPECT A LOT OF   SUBSTANCE OUT OF IT BUT THE   FORMAT WILL MATTER AND VERY FEW  PEOPLE, I CAN\'T THINK OF ANY,   WALKED INTO THAT OVAL OFFICE   MEETING AND CAME OUTLOOKING   BIGGER THAN THEY WERE WHEN THEY  CAME IN.  SMALLER AS BEING THE CASE OR   CONFRONTATION IF IT\'S TRUE.  THEN WE\'RE FIRST TALKING   INTERNATIONAL STUFF, THAT G7   MEETING THAT CANADA IS HEADING,  IT\'S COMING UP QUICKLY, AT THE   END OF JUNE.  AND WHEN YOU\'RE THE HOST   COUNTRY, YOU\'RE SUPPOSED TO TIE  IT TOGETHER, QUITE A BIG TASK.  MOVING ONTO OTHER ISSUES, THIS   IS A PRIME MINISTER THAT NEEDS   TO PRESENT A CABINET.  HE\'S GOT NEW MEMBERS, SO HE\'S   GOING TO FIGURE OUT WHO DOES   WHAT IN CABINET.  HE\'S GOT TO DO IT QUICKLY.  HE NEEDS THE HOUSE OF COMMONS   TO RESUME IN MAY.  HE NEEDS TO PREPARE A THRONE   SPEECH, POSSIBLY AND PRESUMABLY  A BUDGET.  IT IS A MINORITY GOVERNMENT.  HE NEEDS TO TALK OR AT LEAST GO  THROUGH THE MOTIONS OF TALKING   TO OPPOSITION LEADERS.  AND THEN HE\'S GOT TO TALK TO   THE PREMIERS WITH POSSIBLY A   1.5 EXCEPTION, AND THAT WOULD   BE ALBERTA AND SASKATCHEWAN.  THERE IS A LOT ON THE PLATE OF   SOMEONE WHO HAS PROMISED TO DO   THINGS LIKE GETTING RID OF   INTERPROVINCIAL BARRIERS BY   JULY 1.  I DON\'T THINK HE\'S GOING TO BE   TAKING A BREAK UNTIL AFTER   CANADA DAY AT BEST.  >> Rosemary: YEAH, AND HE\'S   TALKED TO SEVERAL LEADERS,   FRANÇOIS LEGAULT AND SCOTT MOE.  IT\'S A LOT OF WORK AT LEAST IN   THE FIRST PART OF IT.  >> CHANTAL GAVE A COMPREHENSIVE  LIST AND ONLY SCRATCHED THE   SURFACE.  ON TOP, YOU\'VE GOT A DEFICIT   THAT\'S IN THE $50 BILLION OR   $60 BILLION RANGE.  YOU\'VE GOT THE MERCURIAL   TEMPERAMENT OF MR. TRUMP, AND   MR. CARNEY SAYING WE\'RE GOING   TO BUILD THINGS AT A SPEED   WE\'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE, WE\'RE   GOING TO BUILD PIPELINES.  NO ONE GOT OVER THE OBJECTIONS   THAT WE\'VE SEEN OVER PIPELINES   IN THE PAST.  THESE KINDS OF LARGE PROJECTS   AND LARGE PROMISES ARE EASY TO   MAKE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL BUT   NOW YOU\'RE PLUNGED INTO THE   MIDDLE OF THIS AND NO ACTUAL   EXPERIENCE WITH GOVERNMENT WITH  THE EXCEPTION OF THE BANK OF   CANADA JOB.  CHANTAL MENTIONED THIS, HE   IMPRESSED ME WITH A 23-MEMBER   CABINET, BUT IT WAS KIND OF   JUST FOR SHOW.  NOW HE\'S GOT TO APPOINT A   CABINET THAT HE GOVERNS WITH   AND THERE WILL BE ENORMOUS   PRESSURE ON HIM TO INCREASE THE  SIZE OF THE CABINET AND I\'LL BE  INTERESTED TO SEE THE SIZE OF   THE CABINET AS AN EARLY   INDICATION OF WHERE HE\'S GOING.  >> Rosemary: ALTHIA?  >> HE HAS AN INTERESTING   CHALLENGE AHEAD OF HIM BECAUSE   HE DOESN\'T KNOW ANY OF THE OLD   PEOPLE THAT HE\'S -- THE NEW   PEOPLE THAT HE\'S ELECTED OR ANY  OF THE OLD PEOPLE THAT HE\'S   ELECTED.  THAT\'S GOING TO BE REALLY KEY   BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE THINGS   THAT ANDREW SAID THAT HE WANTS   TO DO, FOR EXAMPLE, ON   [indiscernible], ON ENERGY.  HE NEEDS TO HAVE THE RIGHT   MANDATE LETTERS.  HE DOESN\'T EVEN HAVE A STAFF   YET, SO THERE\'S THE APPARATUS   OF GOVERNMENT AND IT NEEDS TO   FALL IN LINE BUT HE DOES HAVE   SOME EXPERIENCE HAVING WORKED   IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.  THE TEAM AROUND HIM AT THE   MOMENT KNOWS HOW TO ENACT   CHANGE SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO   DRIVE IT.  I DO THINK THERE\'S TWO   OPPORTUNITIES.  HE HAD TALKED A LOT ABOUT   NATIONAL UNITY.  HE COULD PICK APART THE   CONSERVATIVE PLATFORM AND TAKE   SOME OF IT THAT HE LIKES THAT   THE LIBERALS ALSO HAVEN\'T   TAKEN, AND MR. POILIEVRE HAVE   TALKED FOR THE LAST SEVERAL   DAYS THAT M.P.s DON\'T NEED A   BREAK AND CAN KEEP WORKING   AFTER THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.  MAYBE MR. CARNEY CAN TAKE MR.   POILIEVRE\'S SUGGESTION AND SIT   A LITTLE BIT FURTHER INTO JULY.  >> Rosemary: I DON\'T THINK HE   NEEDS TO DO THAT --   [laughter].   >> Rosemary: NO, CHANTAL.  >> I\'VE WATCHED GOVERNMENTS   COME IN AND IF YOU DO NOT PUT   THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT   PLACES INCLUDING IN THE P.M.O.   YOU STAND TO LOSE YOUR FIRST   TWO YEARS.  THAT\'S BEEN THE EXPERIENCE OF   INCOMING PRIME MINISTERS, SO   THE STAKES IN GETTING IT RIGHT   RIGHT AWAY ARE REALLY HIGH, AND  THE FACT THAT EVEN, YOU KNOW,   STAFFING INSIDE THE P.M.O. IS   WAY UP IN THE AIR, THAT KIND OF  SUGGESTS THAT IT\'S A HUGE   CHALLENGE, AND IF YOU GET IT   WRONG BY THE TIME YOU FIND YOUR  WAY OUT OF THOSE BAD CALLS, 1.5  OR TWO YEARS LEFT.  >> Rosemary: ANDREW, IT SEEMS   THAT MR. CARNEY HAS RAISED THE   EXPECTATIONS OF THIS, AS WELL.   >> AND YOU KNOW, THERE\'S NO   ONE  WEIRD TRICK THAT\'S GOING TO   SOLVE THE TRUMP PROBLEM.  HE\'LL SAY SOMETHING ON TUESDAY   AND SAY THE EXACT OPPOSITE ON   WEDNESDAY.  IT\'S NOT HOW MANY CARDS THAT   CANADA HAS TO PLAY IN THIS.  IT\'S NOT SURE THAT IF THEY HAVE  ANYTHING TO NEGOTIATE.  IT\'S NOT CLEAR IF THEY   NEGOTIATE THAT TRUMP WOULD LIVE  UP TO IT, SO IT\'S GOING TO BE   GET ACQUAINTED, TRUMP IS   SETTING THE GROUND RULES FOR   THE SUGGESTIONS.  CAN I JUST ADD, ONE INTEREST    CONUNDRUM THAT HE HAS IS WHAT   TO DO WITH MR. POILIEVRE\'S   SEAT.  I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR   HIM TO TRY TO GET HIM IN SOONER  RATHER THAN LATER.  FOR ME, I WOULD SAY PART OF MR.  CARNEY\'S BRAND IS I\'M NOT QUITE  THE SAME HARD DRIVING   TAKE-NO-PRISONERS TYPE OF   POLITICIAN.  I\'M A LITTLE BIT MORE OLD   SCHOOL FAIR GAME KIND OF   APPROACH TO POLITICS, AND I   THINK IT WOULD BE DISARMING IN   A WAY RATHER THAN TO DELAY AND   PLAYING THE USUAL GAME OF   KEEPING HIM OUT OF PARLIAMENT   BUT TO BRING HIM IN.  >> Rosemary: YEAH, I WOULD SAY   HOLD THE BY-ELECTION AND LET   HIM COME IN.  ALTHIA?  >> THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE   FALL IF IT DOES.  REGARDING MR. TRUMP, I DON\'T   THINK THERE WILL BE ANYTHING   COMING OUT OF THE MEETING   THAT\'S OF ANY SUBSTANCE.  IT WON\'T BE OH, WE\'VE AGREED ON  A PATHWAY TO NEGOTIATE A NEW   FREE TRADE AGREEMENT.  I THINK IT\'S GOING TO BE ON THE  TARIFFS.  THAT\'S THE IMMEDIATE THREAT,   AND IF CARNEY CAN SHOW ANY   MOVEMENT -- IF MR. CARNEY CAN   SHOW ANY MOVEMENT ON THE U.S.   TARIFFS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE   A HUGE BOON AND A SURPRISE.  >> Rosemary: OKAY.  WHEN WE COME BACK, WE\'RE GOING   TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THE   CONSERVATIVES ARE LOOKING AT   THE FUTURE OF THE PARTY.   >> DON\'T SEE ANY OPTION AT THIS  POINT THAT ANYONE IS GOING TO   GIVE ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [♪♪♪]  >> Rosemary: "AT ISSUE,"   CONSERVATIVE LEADERSHIP.  DESPITE GROWING SEATS AND VOTES  FOR HIS PARTY, PIERRE POILIEVRE  FINDS HIMSELF OUT OF THE HOUSE   OF COMMONS.   >> WE NEED TO HAVE PIERRE IN   THE HOUSE OF COMMONS, AND THE   ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO HAVE   SOME KIND OF BY-ELECTION.  >> Rosemary: BUT WHILE HE STILL  HAS SUPPORT IN CAUCUS.   >> PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT HE CAN   CONTINUE TO GROW THIS PARTY AND  GROW THIS COALITION.  >> Rosemary: THERE\'S ALSO SOME   CRITICISM FROM OUTSIDE THE   FEDERAL TENT.   >> I THINK THE CONSERVATIVE   PARTY OF CANADA WAS VERY GOOD   AT PUSHING PEOPLE AWAY, NOT SO   GOOD AT PULLING PEOPLE IN.  >> Rosemary: SO HERE TO   BREAKDOWN WHAT COMES NEXT FOR   PIERRE POILIEVRE, THE "AT   ISSUE" TEAM, CHANTAL HEBERT,   ANDREW COYNE, AND ALTHIA RAJ.  I THINK PIERRE POILIEVRE AND   HIS TEAM HAS SPENT THE LAST   WEEK REACHING OUT.  ALTHIA, WHAT\'S YOUR SENSE OF   THE PARTY?  >> I THINK HE\'S INCREDIBLY BUSY  [indiscernible] SO HE WANTS TO   ENSURE THAT THERE\'S NO   SURPRISES FOR THIS CAUCUS   MEETING THAT\'S CALLED FOR EARLY  NEXT WEEK.  THERE\'S BEEN A SUGGESTION THAT   HE MIGHT EVEN CALL FOR A   LEADERSHIP VOTE RIGHT AWAY IN   CAUCUS TO SETTLE THAT QUESTION   DOWN AND TO ENCOURAGE HIS   MEMBERS TO BASICALLY ADOPT THE   REFORM ACT, SAYING THAT I\'M NOT  SCARED.  THE THING THAT MR. POILIEVRE   HAS IN HIS ASSET IS THERE\'S   NOBODY ACTUALLY ACTIVELY INSIDE  CAUCUS OR OUTSIDE CAUCUS   LOBBYING TO REPLACE HIM, SO HE   DOES HAVE THIS RUNWAY BUT THERE  ARE RUMBLINGS IN CAUCUS THAT   THEY WANT TO SEE CHANGE, AND   YOU SAW SOME OF THAT THIS WEEK.  THERE WERE CONSERVATIVES DOING   INTERVIEWS ON THE CBC, SPEAKING  TO JOURNALISTS.  PEOPLE FEEL A LITTLE BIT   UNSHACKLED AND THEY FEEL LIKE   THERE\'S NO MORE CARROTS THAT   WILL GO WITH THE STICKS FOR   THREE YEARS.  THEY HAVE MORE LIBERTY AND THEY  FEEL THAT THEY CAN MAKE CERTAIN  CHANGES.  THERE\'S ANGER DIRECTED AT THE   CAMPAIGN DIRECTOR.  THERE ARE A LOT OF UNHAPPY   PEOPLE, AND THE ONE THING THAT   I THINK IS ON THE MINDS OF A   LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE   UNWILLING TO SAY SO PUBLICLY   BECAUSE THE CONSERVATIVES   DIDN\'T WIN THE POPULAR VOTE   LIKE THEY DID IN 2021 AND 2019   IS MR. POILIEVRE\'S APPROACH.  YES, THEY DREW IN THE P.P.C.   BUT THAT CAN ONLY HELP YOU WIN   SO MANY SEATS IF THE TURNOUT IS  LOW AND THE POPULATION IS   DIVIDED.  IF THEY WANT TO WIN AN ELECTION  MAJORITY ON THEIR OWN MERITS,   YOU HEAR A MAJORITY SAYING THEY  NEED TO TONE THINGS DOWN A   LITTLE, AND I WONDER IF THEY\'LL  ASK MR. POILIEVRE TO TONE IT   DOWN A LITTLE.  >> Rosemary: YEAH, AND   CONSERVATIVES DOING INTERVIEWS   WITH ME AND OTHERS ON THE CBC   BECAUSE THEY FELT LIKE THEY   WEREN\'T ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT   SOME OF THE STUFF THAT THEY   DISCUSS IN CAUCUS, AND NOW THEY  FEEL THEIR IDEAS ARE MAYBE OR   SHOULD BE MORE WELCOMED.  CHANTAL?  >> NO MATTER WHAT PEOPLE SAY ON  TUESDAY, MR. POILIEVRE IS A   LEADER ON PROBATION AS IS ANY   LEADER WHO DOES LOSE AN   ELECTION, AND HE DID.  IT IS A PROBLEM FOR HIM NOT TO   BE ABLE TO LEAD HIS PARTY IN   THE HOUSE OF COMMONS FOR A   NUMBER OF MONTHS AND   HUMILIATION.  WHAT WILL BE SAID IS THIS COULD  HAVE BEEN WON AND THE FAULT OF   THAT WILL BE LAID ON MR.   POILIEVRE\'S DOORSTEP.  THE FACT THAT HE COULD HAVE   MADE PEACE WITH PREMIER FORD IN  ONTARIO AND PREMIER HOUSTON IN   NOVA SCOTIA AND THAT THAT WAS   IN HIS INTERESTS.  AND THE FACT THAT HE WAS TOLD   REPEATEDLY THAT HE WAS CAUSING   BACKLASH AGAINST HIM IN QUEBEC.  WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AT THE END   OF THE CAMPAIGN PIERRE   POILIEVRE WAS LESS POPULAR THAN  THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY.  YOU CAN SURVIVE ONE WEEK, TWO   WEEKS, BUT YOU KNEW HE WAS   GOING TO GO DOWN.  I BELIEVE IN THIS CASE MR.   POILIEVRE IS VULNERABLE TO AN   OUTSIDE BID TO UNSEAT HIM OVER   THE NEXT TWO YEARS AND THAT THE  WAY HE TREATS CAUCUS MAY   DETERMINE WHETHER HE CAN   SURVIVE THAT.  >> Rosemary: YEAH, ANDREW?  >> YES, HE\'S PROBABLY LIKELY TO  SURVIVE BUT HE\'S CLEARLY   WEAKENED.  I FIND MYSELF IN THE ODD   POSITION OF BEING PREEMPTED BY   MR. POILIEVRE BECAUSE A, THEY   SHOULD AVAIL THEMSELVES OF THE   POWER TO REMOVE THE LEADER, AND  THEY SHOULD HOLD THE VOTE TO   REAFFIRM HIS LEADER, BUT HE   SHOULD SHOW THAT HE\'S GETTING   OUT IN FRONT OF THIS AND NOT   HIDING FROM IT, AND IT\'S   IMPORTANT THAT HE GETS THE   STAMP THAT HE GOVERNS WITH THE   STAMP OF THE CAUCUS AND THAT HE  CAN BE REMOVED ANY TIME.  IT\'S THE OLD ADAGE OF BE   CAREFUL OF HOW YOU TREAT PEOPLE  ON THE WAY UP BECAUSE IT\'LL   HURT YOU ON THE WAY DOWN.  IT\'S HARD TO SEE HOW HE\'S GOING  TO IMPROVE ON THIS IN THE   FUTURE, PARTICULARLY WHEN   YOU\'RE LOOKING AT THE SITUATION  WITH THE N.D.P.  THERE\'S ONE OF TWO THINGS THAT   HAS TO HAPPEN FOR THE   CONSERVATIVES TO WIN.  EITHER, THEY HAVE TO KEEP THE   VOTE SPLIT BETWEEN THE LIBERALS  AND THE N.D.P. OR HE\'S GOT TO   GET MORE VOTER SCENARIO.  EVEN IF THE LEADER ISN\'T GOING   TO BE DIFFERENT, THE LEADER HAS  TO BE DIFFERENT, MEANING A NEW   VOICE, A NEW APPROACH IF HE\'S   GOING TO EXPECT TO WIN.  >> Rosemary: 30 SECONDS TO YOU,  ALTHIA.   >> SO THERE\'S A LOT OF BELIEF   IN THE CONSERVATIVES THAT HE   BROUGHT THEM TO WHERE THEY ARE,  AND I THINK PIERRE POILIEVRE   SHOWED THEM THAT HE CAN STRIKE   A MORE CALM ADULT DEMEANOR, NO   NAME CALLING.  HE DID THAT IN THAT SPEECH   WHERE CAROLINE MULRONEY   INTRODUCED HIM, ADDRESSING THE   TRUMP THREAT.  HE\'S CAPABLE OF IT SHOULD HE   WISH TO DO IT, BUT I AGREE ON   THE VULNERABILITY AND IT\'LL BE   INTERESTING TO SEE WHO HE PICKS  AS INTERIM LEADER.  DOES HE TAP SOMEBODY WHO   CONTINUES ON THE PATH.   >> Rosemary: THAT\'S   INTERESTING.  I SUPPOSE IT COULD HAPPEN AS   EARLY AS NEXT WEEK.  OKAY.  YOU\'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK THIS   WEEK.  WE THANK YOU.  AS A MATTER OF FACT, ALL OF   CANADA THANKS YOU.  NOW BACK TO HEATHER IN TORONTO.  >> Heather: THANK YOU, ROSIE.  >>> UP NEXT, THE YUKON RIVER   BREAK UP BRINGS DAWSON CITY   TOGETHER.   >> SUMMER\'S OFFICIALLY HERE. ♪ ♪ [static pops] Many secretaries get coffee for their boss, but do they really have to, and is it part of their job? In what may be the first case of its kind in Canada, the Staff Association at York University in Toronto has gone to arbitration in support of a secretary who refused to get coffee for her boss. John McQuaker has more. John McQuaker:  September, 1978.  Staff at York  University strike.  One of the things they get  in their new contract  says if an employee  is required  to perform duties  of a personal nature not connected with the approved  operations of the university,  the employee may  file a grievance.  At the bookstore, a secretary  files a grievance against  the store director, refusing  to get coffee for him.  The director orders us not  to take pictures in the store.  The university administration  backs the director  in the grievance, and the  union files for arbitration.  Union President  Lauma Avens. Well, our members have been asked to balance personal chequebooks, have been asked to walk dogs, have been asked to buy wedding gifts for the spouse, and that is not part of our jobs. That\'s tending to the personal needs of a boss. John:  But what about secretaries who don\'t have union protection?  Marilyn Kalef is one. She has been working for a large  company for four years.  Kalef says doing errands  for the boss  boils down to how people  treat each other. It was a very busy time and my supervisor had just given me a tremendous load to do and there was no way I was going to get done before 8:00. And after a while he came out and saw how harried and harassed I was. And I thought took pity and said, "Oh Marilyn, "you look so harassed and so harried, could you use a cup of coffee?" And I said, "Oh yes, I really could." And he said, "Terrific, so could I. Here\'s the money. Go and get it for us." John:  Kalef told her  supervisor how she felt.  She won\'t be in  that situation again,  but it\'ll be at least  three months  before the secretary at the  York book store finds out  if she has to fetch  coffee for her boss.  It\'ll take that long to  go through arbitration.  John McQuaker, CBC News  , Toronto. ♪ ♪ [♪♪♪]  >> Heather: YOU\'RE LOOKING HERE  AT AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE YUKON   RIVER AS THE ICE STARTED TO   BREAK AND THE WATER STARTED TO   FLOW.  THE PEOPLE OF DAWSON CITY   CELEBRATED THE END OF WINTER AS  THEY ALWAYS DO.  THEY SHOWED UP TO GIVE THE   CHANGING SEASON A WARM WELCOME,  AND TONIGHT THEIR TRADITION   MAKES OUR "MOMENT."  >> SINCE 1896 DAWSON CITY HAS   RUN A BREAK-UP POOL ON THE   YUKON RIVER.  WHEN IT BREAKS, PEOPLE BET ON   THE DAY, THE TIME THAT THAT   WILL HAPPEN.  THE FIREHALL HAD THIS LOUD   SIREN, AND YOU COULD HEAR IT   FROM ONE END OF TOWN TO THE   OTHER.  IT\'S, LIKE, SUMMER\'S OFFICIALLY  HERE.  PEOPLE ARE JUBILANT.  WINTERS CAN LAST SEVEN MONTHS   OR SO, SO IT CAN BE A SLOG.  IT CAN BE A LONG TIME, AND IT\'S  LIKE A BREATH OF FRESH AIR   ROLLING INTO THE TOWN.  YOU CAN SMELL IT.  IT\'S, LIKE, OPENING A WINDOW IN  A STUFFY HOUSE AFTER A LONG   WINTER.  WINTER IS NICE BUT IT\'S NOT   COMING BACK.  EVERYONE GETTED EXCITED, AND   EVEN MORE EXCITED IF YOU\'VE GOT  THE WINNING TICKET.  >> Heather: IT GETS BETTER   BECAUSE PAUL DID GET THE   WINNING TICKET.  HE AND ONE OTHER PERSON GUESSED  THE WINNING DAY AND TIME: APRIL  30 AT 10:56 A.M.  PAUL IS GOING TO USE HIS MONEY   TO BUY A MEMBERSHIP AT A LOCAL   GOLF COURSE.  ENJOY.  >>> THAT\'S IT FOR US.  FOR NEWS ANY TIME, HEAD TO OUR   WEBSITE OR SUBSCRIBE TO OUR  [♪♪♪]  >> Heather: TONIGHT, FRESH OFF   HIS ELECTION WIN AND GEARING UP  TO TAKE ON DONALD TRUMP, MARK   CARNEY IS ALSO FACING A TEST   FROM WITHIN CANADA.  >> IF OTTAWA HAD ITS WAY   ALBERTANS WOULD BE LEFT TO   FREEZE IN THE DARK.  >> Heather: POINTED WORDS FROM   DANIELLE SMITH AS THE ISSUE OF   ALBERTA SEPARATISM HEATS UP   AGAIN.  >>> PLUS, WHAT CARNEY NEEDS TO   DO IN THE FIRST DAYS OF A   NEW MANDATE.  "AT ISSUE" WILL WEIGH-IN ON   THAT.  >>> AS CANADA\'S MEASLES   OUTBREAK   CONTINUES TO GROW, CONCERN OVER   ABOUT WHO\'S PROTECTED AND   WHO\'S NOT.   >> IT\'S SAD BECAUSE THERE\'S THE  GROUP THAT DOESN\'T APPROVE OF   VACCINATIONS AND THEY PUT   EVERYONE ELSE AT RISK.  >> Heather: WHAT HEALTH   OFFICIALS ARE TRYING TO DO TO   HALT THE SPREAD.  >>> SHAMED AND CHASED OUT OF   THEIR COMMUNITY.  >> WE\'RE UPHOLDING OUR OLD   LAWS.   >> Heather: A FIRST NATIONS   DEALING WITH DRUGS AND VIOLENCE  TAKES MATTERS INTO ITS OWN   HANDS.  >> Announcer: FROM CBC NEWS,   THIS IS "THE NATIONAL" WITH   HEATHER HISCOX.  [♪♪♪]  >> Heather: THANK YOU FOR   JOINING US.  ADRIENNE IS ON ASSIGNMENT   TONIGHT.  >>> WE HAVE CONFIRMATION   TONIGHT   READY TO LAY OUT HIS   --  THAT MARK CARNEY IS GETTING   READY TO LAY OUT HIS   GOVERNMENT\'S TOP PRIORITIES IN   A   MATTER OF HOURS, GETTING READY   TO HOLD HIS FIRST NEWS   CONFERENCE SINCE HE WON THE   ELECTION, FACING ISSUES FROM A   U.S. PRESIDENT THREATENING   CANADA\'S SOVEREIGNTY TO A   PREMIER PUSHING FOR HER   PROVINCE\'S SOVEREIGNTY.  AS JULIA WONG SHOWS TONIGHT, IF  ENOUGH ALBERTANS SUPPORT A   REFERENDUM OF ANY KIND, SHE\'S   MADE IT CLEAR SHE\'S WILLING TO   LISTEN.  >> Reporter: DAYS AFTER A   FEDERAL ELECTION, ALBERTA   UPSWINGING  OVER ENERGY REGULATIONS.  A RENEWED CAMPAIGN FOR ALBERTA   TO SEPARATE FROM CANADA.  IT COMES AFTER NEW LEGISLATION   BY SMITH\'S GOVERNMENT THAT   MAKES   IT EASIER TO FORCE THE PROVINCE  TO HOLD A REFERENDUM.  WHILE SMITH SAYS SHE\'S NOT   PUSHING FOR SECESSION, SHE SAYS  THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS DONE  LITTLE TO MEND A FRAUGHT   RELATIONSHIP.  >> WHEN WE VOICED OUR REAL   CONCERNS, THEY TOLD US TOO BAD.  >> WE HAVE NO CONSULTATION IN   REGARDS TO THIS AT ALL.  >> Reporter: THIS FIRST NATIONS  CHIEF SENT A LETTER TO THE   PREMIER, ONE OF MANY SAYING   SEPARATIST SENTIMENTS BREACH   TREATY RIGHTS.   >> THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE  IN REGARDS TO SEPARATING WITH   ALBERTA, AND IT HAS TO STOP.  IT\'S FEARMONGERING.  >> Reporter: TREATY AGREEMENTS   ARE SACRED AND SHOULD COME   BEFORE A PROCESS LIKE A   REFERENDUM SAYS THIS EXPERT.  >> ALBERTA THINKS THAT JUST IN   A   POLITICAL CONVERSATION IT CAN   MUSE OR JUST THINK ABOUT THE   POSSIBILITY OF SEPARATING   WITHOUT INVOLVING INDIGENOUS   PEOPLE AS A SIGN OF DISRESPECT.  >> Reporter: THE PREMIER   PRESSED   ON THE ISSUE.   >> I JUST FEEL LIKE I\'M NOT   GETTING AN ANSWER.  THIS COULD BE -- AFFECT THE   PROVINCE\'S REGION --   RELATIONSHIP --  >> WELL, I\'M NOT GOING TO   PREJUDGE WHAT CITIZENS ARE   GOING   TO DO.  ONCE THERE\'S A PETITION ON THE   TABLE AND THERE\'S AN ACTIVE   DISCUSSION FOR CITIZENS HAVING   ACHIEVED THE REQUISITE NUMBER   OF   SIGNATURES I\'D BE HAPPY TO   ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.  >> CANADIANS EXPECT US TO GET   DOWN TO WORK DEFENDING THIS   COUNTRY AND I DON\'T WANT US TO   SPEND A LOT OF TIME TO  WORRY ABOUT A SEPARATIST   ARGUMENT THAT\'S SUCH A FRINGE   ARGUMENT.  >> Reporter: FORMER ALBERTA   PREMIER JASON KENNEY IS ALSO   WARNING AGAINST SEPARATISM.  HE PUT OUT A LONG POST ON   SOCIAL MEDIA WARNING ABOUT THE   HARMS.  CBC NEWS ALSO REACHED OUT TO   THE   PRIME MINISTER\'S OFFICE FOR   REACTION BUT DID NOT HEAR BACK.  >> Heather: JULIA, WHAT LEVEL   OF SUPPORT IS THERE IN ALBERTA   AROUND SECESSION?  >> Reporter: WELL,  THERE\'S A RECENT ANGUS REID   POLL   THAT SHOW THAT ONE IN FOUR   ALBERTANS WOULD SUPPORT THE   PROVINCE LEAVING THE COUNTRY.  ALSO, 28% OF ALBERTANS VOTED   FOR   THE LIBERALS IN MONDAY\'S   ELECTION.  >> Heather: JULIA, THANK YOU.  JULIA WONG\'S IN EDMONTON   TONIGHT.  >>> CBC NEWS WILL HAVE SPECIAL   COVERAGE AS MARK CARNEY LAYS   OUT   HIS NEW GOVERNMENT PRIORITIES   TOMORROW.  THAT COVERAGE BEGINS AT   11:00 A.M. EASTERN, 8:00   PACIFIC, LED BY "POWER &   POLITICS" HOST DAVID COCHRANE   ALONG WITH OUR CHIEF POLITICAL   CORRESPONDENT ROSEMARY BARTON.  YOU CAN WATCH ON CBC NEWS   NETWORK OR ANYWHERE YOU STREAM   CBC NEWS.  >>> NOW AHEAD OF THE   CONFERENCE,   TONIGHT, ROSIE AND "AT ISSUE"   TEAM WILL WEIGH-IN   WITH THEIR EXPECTATIONS  ON CARNEY\'S FIRST DAYS IN FIRST  AS WELL AS WEIGH-IN ON PIERRE   POILIEVRE, AS WELL.  THAT\'S UP IN ABOUT 25 MINUTES.  >>> QUEBEC HAS CHANGED THE LINE  OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS, WITH   THE BLOC QUEBECOIS HOLDING ONTO  A SEAT, HOLDING ON BY 44 VOTES.  THE CHANGE WEAKENS THE MINORITY  GOVERNMENT SLIGHTLY TO 168   SEATS.  THE FINAL RESULT IS STILL   PENDING A JUDICIAL RECOUNT.  >>> BREAKING TONIGHT, CANADIAN   AUTO PARTS MANUFACTURERS ARE   GETTING A REPRIEVE FROM DONALD   TRUMP\'S TARIFFS.  THE U.S. CUSTOMS AGENCY SAYS   PARTS NOW COVERED BY NORTH   AMERICAN FREE TRADE RULES WILL   BE EXEMPTED.  NISHA PATEL IS HERE WITH MORE   ON   THIS.  NISHA, MANUFACTURERS WERE   BRACING FOR THAT 25% TARIFFS.  WHAT CHANGES WITH THIS?  >> Reporter: WELL, IF THE PART   FOLLOWS THE TRADE RULES THERE   WILL BE NO TARIFF.  DESPITE ALL OF THAT, THAT   SOFTENING OF THOSE MEASURES,   THERE\'S STILL A LOT OF   UNCERTAINTY ACROSS THE   INDUSTRY.  >> COMPANIES ARE ANXIOUS.  THEY\'RE WORRIED ABOUT BEING THE  ONES TO SHUTDOWN FIRST,   CONCEDES   THE MARKET SPACE TO SOMEBODY   ELSE THAT SHOULD NEVER GET   BACK.   >> Reporter: CAR MAKERS ARE   WARNING THAT EVEN REDUCED   TARIFFS WILL CREATE LOWER COSTS  AND HURT SALES.  ONE EXPERT SAID ROLLING BACK   THE   TARIFFS INSTEAD OF GETTING RID   OF THEM ENTIRELY IS LIKE   PUTTING   A BAND-AID ON A BULLET WOUND.  >> Heather: MERE THOUGHT OF   TARIFFS IS WORRYING A LOT OF   PEOPLE.  WHAT CAN YOU TELL US?  IS.   >> Reporter: WELL,  GENERAL MOTORS SAYS IT EXPECTS   IT COULD TAKE A $5 BILLION HIT   THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF TARIFFS.  STELLANTIS SAYS THAT ITS SALES   ARE DOWN ABOUT A QUARTER THIS   QUARTER.  THE COMPANY SAYS IT\'S PLANNING   ON MOVING SOME MANUFACTURING   FROM MEXICO TO MICHIGAN.  THAT\'S REALLY BEEN DONALD   TRUMP\'S PURPOSE, BUT EXPERTS   AND ANALYSTS SAY  MOVING OPERATIONS BACK TO THE   U.S. COULD TAKE YEARS.  >> Heather: A MAJOR SHAKE UP AT  THE WHITE HOUSE.  MIKE WALTZ HAS BEEN TURFED IN   -- AS NATIONAL SECURITY   ADVISOR.  IT MARKS THE FIRST BIG TURNOVER  IN DONALD TRUMP\'S   ADMINISTRATION DESPITE HIS   CELEBRATION OF HIS FIRST 100   DAYS.  BUT  AS PAUL HUNTER EXPLAINS, THE   WALTZ DEPARTURE WAS A LONG TIME  COMING.  >> Reporter: ON THE LEFT,   DONALD   TRUMP\'S THEN-EMBATTLED NATIONAL  SECURITY ADVISOR MICHAEL WALTZ   ARRIVING AT THE WHITE HOUSE   WITH   WORDS SOON TO EMERGE HE WAS   GONE.  THE SHAKE-UP, THE FIRST MAJOR   SHAKE-UP OF TRUMP\'S NEW   PRESIDENCY COMES AFTER WEEKS OF  PRESSURE ON WALTZ AND THE   REVELATION HE\'D ADDED A   PROMINENT JOURNALIST TO A U.S.   SECURITY GROUP TEXT CHAT ON THE  TEXTING APP SIGNAL.  THE CHAT CAME JUST AHEAD OF   THIS   U.S. ASSAULT ON HOUTHI REBELS   IN   YEMEN AND INCLUDED HIGHLY   SENSITIVE INFORMATION ON IT.  ON FOX NEWS IN LATE MARCH,   WALTZ ACCEPTED  RESPONSIBILITY FOR INCLUDING OF  ALL PEOPLE IN THAT CHAT, A   JOURNALIST SOMEHOW.   >> WELL, IF HE HAD SOMEBODY   ELSE\'S CONTACT AND THEN IT GOT   SUCKED IN, IT GETS SUCKED IN.  >> Reporter: ON CAPITOL HILL,   APPLAUSE ON WALTZ\' EXIT WHO   INSISTED MORE MUST FOLLOW,   CITING  DEFENCE SECRETARY PETE HEGSETH   ALSO ON THE CONVERSATION.   >> THE SECRETARY OF DEFENCE   NEEDS TO BE FIRED AND SHOULD   HAVE BEEN FIRED BEFORE MR.   WALTZ.  >> Reporter: FOR NOW, TRUMP HAS  OTHER PLANS, QUICKLY  NOMINATING WALTZ TO BE   AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED   NATIONS, AND REPLACING WALTZ  AS NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR,  FOR NOW, SECRETARY OF STATE   MARCO RUBIO.  WHEN THAT NEWS BROKE AMONG   JOURNALISTS, THE STATE   DEPARTMENT ITSELF SEEMED CAUGHT  OFF GUARD, INCLUDING EVEN ON   RUBIO.   >> DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG HE\'S   GOING TO BE SERVING IN BOTH   ROLES?  >> IT IS CLEAR THAT I JUST   HEARD   THIS FROM YOU.  I HAD -- THIS IS -- THE   MAGIC --   [INDISCERNIBLE] --   >> REPORTER: THE STATE   DEPARTMENT SPOKES WOMAN   EVENTUALLY DESCRIBING THE DAY   AS   AN EXCITING MOMENT, ADDING,   HEATHER, HER VIEW THAT IT\'S   ALL,   QUOTE, GOOD NEWS FOR THE   AMERICAN PEOPLE.  >> Heather: SO FIRST SHAKE-UP   OF   THIS WHITE HOUSE, PAUL.  IS THERE MORE TO COME?  >> Reporter: WELL, PETE HEGSETH  STILL HAS TRUMP\'S FULL SUPPORT,  SO THERE\'S THAT,  BUT ON WALTZ AND SO-CALLED   SIGNAL-GATE, THERE\'S MORE FOR   WALTZ BEFORE HE CAN BE   CONFIRMED   AS AMBASSADOR FOR THE U.N.,   DEMOCRATS ANTICIPATING FOR   WALTZ   THAT IT\'LL BE BRUTAL.  HEATHER?  >> Heather: PAUL, THANK YOU.  PAUL HUNTER IN WASHINGTON.  >>> UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT   VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY SAYS THE   DEAL   THAT HIS COUNTRY SIGNED WITH   THE   U.S. IS FAIR AND GOOD FOR BOTH   COUNTRIES, BUT IN UKRAINE   TONIGHT, THE DEAL IS GETTING A   COOL RECEPTION.  >> Reporter: RUSSIAN DRONES   TARGETED THE BLACK SEA CITY OF   ODESA, AN ATTACK THAT WAS   CARRIED OUT ABOUT THE SAME TIME  THAT THE U.S. AND UKRAINE   REACHED THEIR HISTORIC   AGREEMENT.  U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP   HASN\'T BEEN ABLE TO END THE WAR  AS QUICKLY AS HE VOWED BUT IT\'S  -- HIS TEAM IS PAINTING IT AS A  TURNING POINT.  WHILE UKRAINE WON\'T HAVE TO   DIRECTLY REPAY THE U.S. FOR   THAT, WASHINGTON SEES THIS DEAL  AS A MONEY MAKING OPPORTUNITY   BUT IT ALSO SAYS IT\'S A STRONG   SIGNAL OF ITS COMMITMENT TO A   SOVEREIGN STABLE UKRAINE.  UNDER THE DEAL THE U.S. GETS   PREFERENTIAL ACCESS TO INVEST   IN   KEY UKRAINIAN NATURAL RESOURCE   PROJECTS LIKE RARE AND CRITICAL  MINERALS.  IT ALLOWS THE UNITED STATES TO   MAKE MONEY IN PART, SAYS   UKRAINE   PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY   BUT   IN UKRAINE SOME ARE WARY.   >> MY OPINION IS THAT IT\'S   GOING   TO BE DIFFICULT TO MAKE A DEAL   AND WE\'RE NOT GOING TO BE   OCCUPIED BY RUSSIA BUT AMERICA.  >> I TRUST UKRAINE.  I DON\'T TRUST AMERICA.  >> SO IT\'S IMPORTANT TO   SIGNAL --   >> REPORTER: THIS ECONOMIST   SAYS   KYIV NEEDED TO SIGN THE DEAL   BUT   EVEN THOUGH NOW THAT U.S.   PRESIDENT HAS MORE OF A STAKE   IN   UKRAINE SHE SAYS THAT   EXPECTATIONS NEEDS TO BE   TEMPERED.   >> IT DOESN\'T SHOW EXACTLY HOW   [INDISCERNIBLE].   >> REPORTER: SO FAR, RUSSIA HAS  REFUSED TO AGREE TO THE 30-DAY   CEASEFIRE.  WHILE IT APPEARS THAT TRUMP IS   GROWING MORE FRUSTRATED WITH   THE   KREMLIN, THE WHITE HOUSE HASN\'T  FOLLOWED THROUGH ON ANY OF ITS   THREATS TO ROLL OUT ANY MORE   PUNISHING SANCTIONS.  BRIAR STEWART, CBC NEWS,   LONDON.  >> Heather: PAKISTAN IS ON EDGE  TONIGHT, BRACING FOR AN ATTACK    FROM INDIA IN RESPONSE TO A   DEADLY ATTACK LAST WEEK.  SALIMAH SHIVJI INVESTIGATES THE  LATEST FLASHPOINT BETWEEN   NUCLEAR ARMED NEIGHBOURS.  >> Reporter: THE OUTPOURING OF   RAW PAIN FOR ONE OF THE 26   VICTIMS OF THE TERROR ATTACK   HASN\'T FADED.  THE TARGET OF LAST WEEK\'S   VIOLENCE, TOURISTS VISITING THE  DISPUTED KASHMIR REGION, THE   DEADLIEST MILITANT ATTACK ON   CIVILIANS IN 20 YEARS.  IT TRIGGERED A SECURITY CRACK   DOWN IN KASHMIR WITH HUNDREDS   OF ARRESTED AND  POLICE WARNING FOR RESIDENTS TO  STAY AWAY FROM MILITANT GROUPS.  THE VIOLENT HAS SENT TWO   NUCLEAR   POWERS HURDLING TOWARD THE   BRINK   OF WAR.  SWOESH -- SWORN ENEMIES INDIA   AND PAKISTAN CLAIM THE ENTIRETY  OF DIVIDED KASHMIR BUT EACH   ONLY OCCUPY PART OF IT.  THIS BORDER CROSSING BETWEEN   THE   TWO COUNTRIES IS NOW SHUT, THE   AIR SPACE ABOVE IT CLOSED, AND   INDIA HAS SUSPENDED A   CREW-WATER   SHARING TREATY -- A KEY WATER   -- A CRUCIAL WATER  SHARING TREATY THAT PAKISTAN   RELIES ON DOWNSTREAM.  THERE\'S NO EFFECT YET FROM   PUTTING THE TREATY ON HOLD BUT   PANIC AND PROTESTS SAYING NO TO  WATER TERRORISM ARE GROWING.  THERE\'S ALSO SEEING ANGER AND A  -- SEEING ANGER AND A  DESIRE FOR VENGEANCE DRIVING   INDIA\'S RESPONSE.   >> SO THE PROBLEM FOR PRIME   MINISTER MODI IS DRIVING THE   ANGER AND KEEPING PEOPLE CALM.  AT THE SAME TIME HE HAS TO   DELIVER A RESPONSE THAT\'S   PROPORTIONATE AND CALIBRATED.  >> Reporter: U.S. SECRETARY OF   STATE MARCO RUBIO HAS SPOKEN TO  BOTH SIDES, URGING CALM AMID   FEAR AND DEESCALATION.  SALIMAH SHIVJI, CBC NEWS,   MUMBAI.  >> Heather: IN THE NETHERLANDS   PEOPLE ARE SET TO HONOUR THE   CANADIAN SOLDIERS WHO LIBERATED  THEIR COUNTRY FROM THE NAZIS 80  YEARS AGO.  TOMORROW MORNING, ADRIENNE   ARSENAULT WILL HOST SPECIAL   COVERAGE TOMORROW MORNING.  IT BEGINS AT 8:00 A.M. EASTERN,  AND SHE\'LL BE BACK WITH MORE   SPECIAL COVERAGE ON "THE   NATIONAL."  >>> NEW MEASLES NUMBERS SHOWS A  SURGE IN THE NUMBER OF CASES,   THE VAST MAJORITY OF CHILDREN.  JENNIFER YOON LOOKS AT THE   LATEST ON THE MEASLES OUTBREAK   AND THE FRUSTRATIONS FOR THOSE   TRYING TO KEEP IT IN CHECK.  >> Reporter: A CLIMBING GYM, A   RECREATION CENTRE, AND A   HOSPITAL, ALL AREAS IN AND   AROUND LONDON, ONTARIO WHERE   PEOPLE COULD HAVE BEEN EXPOSED   TO MEASLES IN THE LAST WEEK.  ONTARIO IS REPORTING 320 NEW   CASES THIS WEEK, BRINGING THE   TOTAL TO 1,242 THIS YEAR.  AND THERE ARE CONCERNS NOT   ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE VACCINATED TO  STOP THE SPREAD.  IN THE HALTON REGION WEST OF   TORONTO LESS THAN A QUARTER OF   SEVEN-YEAR-OLDS ARE REPORTED TO  BE FULLY VACCINATED.  OFFICIALS SAY THE NUMBER MAY BE  HIGHER BUT THEY DON\'T HAVE A   CLEAR PICTURE.   >> PEOPLE WANT TO BE PROTECTED.  THEY JUST DON\'T KNOW HOW TO   REPORT.  >> Reporter: THAT HAS SOME   PARENTS ALARMED.   >> IT\'S SAD BECAUSE THERE ARE   THE GROUPS THAT DON\'T APPROVE   OF   VACCINATIONS AND THEN THEY CAN   PUT EVERYONE AT RISK.  >> Reporter: MEASLES CAN CAUSE   A RASH, COUGH, AND FEVER.  IN SERIOUS CASES, IT CAN CAUSE  BRAIN INFLAMMATION AND EVEN   DEATH.  IT\'S PREVENTIBLE WITH A   TWO-DOSE   VACCINE.  ALBERTA KEEPS A CLOSE EYE ON   VACCINATION RATES.  ONLY 72% OF GRADE TWO KIDS ARE   FULLY IMMUNIZED, AND CASES ARE   RAMPING UP ACROSS THE PROVINCE,  193 TOTAL AS OF THURSDAY   INCLUDING IN UNDER VACCINATED   TOWNS LIKE TABOR.  HEALTH OFFICIALS ARE SCRAMBLING  TO CONTAIN THE DISEASE WHICH   SPREADS QUICKLY THROUGH THOSE   WITHOUT IMMUNITY.  >> THERE\'S A LOT OF   MISINFORMATION OUT THERE ABOUT   MEASLES VACCINES, ABOUT   VACCINES   IN GENERAL.   >> WE NEED TO BE SEEING THE   MEDICAL OFFICER OF HEALTH   PROBABLY ON A WEEKLY BASIS.  WE NEED TO SEE VACCINATION   CLINICS POPPING UP.  WE NEED TO MAKE IT EASY FOR   PEOPLE.  >> Reporter: CBC HAS REPEATEDLY  REQUESTED INTERVIEWS WITH THE   CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICERS IN   ONTARIO AND ALBERTA.  SO FAR THEY HAVE NOT BEEN MADE   AVAILABLE.  JENNIFER YOON, CBC NEWS,   TORONTO.  >> Heather: QUEBEC PLANS TO   BRING IN A FULL CELL PHONE BAN   IN ALL ELEMENTARY AND HIGH   SCHOOLS STARTING NEXT FALL.   >> I WANT STUDENTS TO BE MORE   CONCENTRATED, I WANT STUDENTS   TO   TALK TO ONE ANOTHER, I WANT   STUDENTS TO SUCCEED MORE.  >> Heather: THE USE OF CELL   PHONES, HEAD PHONES, OR OTHER   PERSONAL MOBILE DEVICES WILL BE  PROHIBITED ON SCHOOL GROUNDS,   INCLUDING ON BREAKS AND AT   LUNCH.  THEIR USE IS ALREADY BANNED IN   CLASSROOM.  ALSO, BY JANUARY 2026 STUDENTS   WILL BE ASKED TO ADDRESS SCHOOL  STAFF BY MR. OR MS. IN A BID TO  INCREASE CIVILITY AND RESPECT.  >>> TENSIONS ARE HIGH IN A B.C.  FIRST NATIONS COMMUNITY WHERE   ASSOCIATES OF A MAN ACCUSED OF   FIRST DEGREE MURDER ARE BEING   SHUNNED AND THEIR HOMES   DEMOLISHED.  TURNING TO TRADITIONAL JUSTICE   TO KEEP A COMMUNITY SAFE, NEXT.  >>> PLUS NORTH AMERICA\'S   LARGEST   DOCUMENTARY FESTIVAL SHINES A   SPOTLIGHT ON FILM MAKERS FORCED  FROM THEIR HOMELAND.   >> MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE   HAVING TO FLEE THEIR COUNTRIES   BECAUSE OF WAR AND   DISPLACEMENT.   >> Heather: WE\'LL LOOK AT SOME   FILMS MADE IN EXILE AND THE   HARDSHIPS FACED BY THOSE WHO   MAKE THEM.  >>> AND LATER, CELEBRATING A   BREAK UP, YUKON STYLE.   >> IT\'S LIKE CHRISTMAS  ♪ ♪ [knocking] Well, hello, Jared. Come on in. So we are just on a quick break, a commercial break for  The National,  so figured we might as well show you around. Welcome to  The National  studio. And this is the bestest of the gang\'s here. This is Joe, Dino, Dave.  Oh, that\'s Steve,  the director.  And Dave is  hiding down here. Joe is the keeper of the jib. The jib is our favourite camera here. We do have other cameras, though. They are robo cams. They\'ve all been named. You see them as camera two. I know them by another name. We have some other toys in here. This one is this is our smartboard. We use this a lot for elections because, you know, you can interact with the board. Here\'s a sample question. How likely are you to vote in the presidential election? The best thing about this studio is that we can change the look of the lighting. So it can be all red, it can be blue, it can be red and blue for, say, an American election, red and white for a Canadian election. There\'s lots we can do. We\'ve got these beautiful, beautiful monitors here which are fantastic for photography. And we have some [chuckles] some quirky versatility. So when we have a lot of people in studio on panels, we can flip this up, there are legs here, so we can sit, seat a whole bunch of people around this desk. And then if you come around here, because fundamentally I am extremely short, there\'s like a little platform so that I can sit here with eventually my computer and the scripts and have view of all the cameras and the monitors and the lights, and we\'ll do the show. Speaking of which, got to go do it. Talk to you later. ♪ ♪ >> Heather: AS BAY STORES   CONTINUE LIQUIDATING INVENTORY,  A REPORT TONIGHT SAYS CANADIAN   TIRE HAS BID ON SOME OF THE   INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY HELD BY   HUDSON\'S BAY COMPANY.  THE CANADIAN PRESS CITES TWO   SOURCES ASSOCIATED WITH THE   SALES PROCESS.  CANADIAN TIRE WOULD NOT   COMMENT.  >>> A FIRST NATIONS COMMUNITY   IN   B.C. HAS BANISHED A GROUP OF   PEOPLE AFTER A MAN WAS KILLED   LAST MONTH ON HAIDA GWAII.  AS BRADY STRACHEN REPORTS, A   -- OTHER FIRST NATIONS   COMMUNITIES HAVE JOINED IN,   SHUNNING AND PROTESTING THE   GROUP AS IT LEFT.  >> Reporter: A COMMUNITY ON THE   REMOTE ISLANDS OF HAIDA GWAII   IN A STATE OF UNHEAVAL AFTER AN  ATTACK LAST MONTH KILLED A   32-YEAR-OLD FATHER.  IN THE WAKE OF HIS DEATH,   MULTIPLE HOMES OWNED BY THE   BANDS DEMOLISHED INCLUDING THE   HOMES OF THE FAMILY OF TYSON   YOUNG, THE MAN ACCUSED IN THE   KILLING   ASSOCIATED WITH DRUG DEALING.  >> THIS IS REALLY A   DEMONSTRATION OF THE   FRUSTRATION   OF MANY ADMINISTRATIONS OUT   THERE.  MANY FIRST NATIONS -- YOU KNOW   WE AREN\'T THE ONLY FIRST   NATIONS DEALING WITH  THE SALE OF ILLICIT DRUGS.  >> Reporter: THE FAMILY CROSSED  THE STRAIT ON THE FERRY AND   WERE   MET WITH SEVERAL HUNDRED   KILOMETRES OF RESISTANCE ALL   THE   WAY TO PRINCE GEORGE.  IN VIDEOS UPLOADED ON SOCIAL   MEDIA PEOPLE LINED THE HIGHWAY   TO SUPPORT THE VICTIM\'S FAMILY   AND TO SEND A MESSAGE THAT   THOSE   BANISHED FROM HAIDA GWAII ARE   NOT WELCOME TO THEIR   COMMUNITIES, EITHER.   OUR ANCESTORS, WHENEVER SOMEONE  WAS EXILED FROM THEIR OWN   TERRITORIES,  THE NEIGHBOURING TERRITORIES   AND   ALL THE ALLIES THAT THEY\'VE   GOT,   THEY\'RE NOT EXPECTED TO SERVE   THEM.  THEY\'RE EXPECTED TO PASS   THROUGH   THE TERRITORY AND CONTINUE ON,   AND THAT\'S WHAT WE\'RE DOING.  WE\'RE UPHOLDING OUR OWN LAWS.  >> Reporter: RCMP STEPPED IN TO  ESCORT THE GROUP,  MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE IS   SAFE FROM HARASSMENT.  THE RCMP ARE ASKING FOR CALM   AND   FOR PROTESTERS TO RESPECT THE   COURT PROCESS.  POLICE SAY THEY KNOW WHERE THE   GROUP IS HEADING BUT THEY WON\'T  REVEAL THE LOCATION IN ORDER TO  PROTECT ITS SAFETY.  BRADY STRACHEN, CBC NEWS,   VANCOUVER.  >> Heather: INTERNATIONAL   CONFLICTS ARE DRIVING THE WORK   OF A NEW GENERATION OF   DOCUMENTARY FILM MAKERS.  >> WE THINK HAVING A PROGRAMME   THAT FOCUSES ON THESE VERY   ISSUES IS URGENT.  >> Heather: HOW THE HOT DOCS   FESTIVAL IS HONOURING FILMS   MADE   IN EXILE.  >>> AND ROSIE IS HERE WITH "AT   ISSUE."  >> Rosemary: HEY, HEATHER.  WE\'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MARK   CARNEY\'S FIRST DAYS AS PRIME   MINISTER AND WHAT HIS   PRIORITIES   ARE GOING TO BE.  SO WHAT ARE HIS PRIORITIES AS   THE PRIME MINISTER BEGINS HIS   MANDATE?  CHANTAL, ALTHIA, AND ANDREW   JOIN   ME TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND MORE.    ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [♪♪♪]  >> Heather: THIS YEAR\'S TONY   AWARD NOMINATIONS ARE OUT.  AUDRA MACDONALD IS UP FOR LEAD   ACTRESS IN A MUSICAL FOR THE   BROADWAY REVIVAL OF GYPSY.  SHE\'S NOW THE MOST NOMINATED   PERFORMER EVER WITH 11 NODS AND  THE WINNER OF SIX AWARDS.  TONY WINNER CYNTHIA ARIVO HOSTS  THE BIG SHOW ON JUNE 8.  >>> NORTH AMERICA\'S LARGEST   DOCUMENTARY FILM FESTIVAL S   -- HOT DOCS HAS A NEW CATEGORY,  HONOURING DOCUMENTARY FILMS   MADE   BY DISPLACED FILM MAKERS.  MAKDA GHEBRESSLASSIE HAS MORE   ON   THE IMPORTANT STORIES THEY\'RE   TELLING.  >> Reporter: WAVES OF JOY TURN   INTO SADNESS IN THIS   DOCUMENTARY THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE  SACRIFICES OF  SUDANESE CITIZENS AND THEIR   LIVES DESTROYED.  AFTER WAR BROKE OUT IN 2023 THE  FILM\'S PARTICIPANTS AND   CINEMATIC TEAM WERE FORCED TO   FSHS -- TO FREE TO EAST AFRICA,  YET WITH THE HELP OF THINGS   LIKE GREEN SCREENS, THEY WERE   ABLE TO COMPLETE THE FILM AND   SUBMIT THE FILM UNDER   DOCUMENTARIES MADE IN EXILE.  >> MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE   HAVING TO FLEE THEIR COUNTRIES   AMID DISPLACEMENT, SO I THINK   THAT HAVING AN EVENT THAT   FOCUSES ON THESE ISSUES IS   IMPORTANT.  [♪♪♪]  >> Reporter: OVER TEN YEARS,   THIS PRODUCER FILMED LIFE IN   HER   HOME COUNTRY.   FOR ONE FILM SUBJECT, THE FILM   WAS HIS TICKET OUT OF GAZA.  >> THE CONDITIONS IN GAZA, HOW   THEY HAVE THIS SPIRIT THAT I   EVENTUALLY ENDED UP CALL THE   PALESTINIAN SPIRIT.  >> Reporter: A DESPERATE NEED   TO REVEAL COMPLICATING TRUTHS   IS ALSO A DRIVING  FORCE FOR THE FILM MAKERS   BEHIND   THE LONGER YOU BLEED.  THE DOC EXPLORES THE ENDLESS   STREAM OF WAR IMAGES ON SOCIAL   MEDIA AND THE TOLL THAT THE WAR  TAKES ON YOUNG DISPLACED   UKRAINIANS.   >> IT\'S GIVING US A SPIRIT OF   UNITY WHICH I THINK IS VERY   CRUCIAL FOR MENTAL SANITY AND   FOR SURVIVAL.  >> Reporter: WHILE HOT DOCS   SAYS   IT\'S DELIGHTED WITH THE SUCCESS  OF THIS YEAR\'S MADE IN EXILE   CATEGORY THE FUTURE OF THE   PROGRAMME REMAINS UNKNOWN.  MAKDA GHEBRESSLASSIE, CBC NEWS,  TORONTO.  >> Heather: TIME NOW TO DIG   DEEPER INTO THE STORIES SHAPING  OUR WORLD AND THE "AT ISSUE"   PANEL\'S EXPECTATIONS FOR THE   PRIME MINISTER\'S FIRST POST   ELECTION WEEK.  >> Rosemary: "AT ISSUE," WITH   THE ELECTION IN HIS REARVIEW   MIRROR, PRIME MINISTER MARK   CARNEY IS WORKING ON ISSUES IN  RELATION TO HIS GOVERNMENT.   >> President Donald Trump: HE\'S  A VERY NICE GENTLEMAN AND HE\'S   GOING TO COME TO THE WHITE   HOUSE   VERY SHORTLY, WITHIN THE NEXT   WEEK OR LESS.  >> Rosemary: SO WHAT WILL BE   THE   PRIME MINISTER\'S FIRST MOVES?  WHAT\'S AT STAKE IN HIS FIRST   FACE-TO-FACE MEETING WITH   DONALD TRUMP?  HERE TO BREAK IT DOWN FOR THE   THIRD TIME THIS WEEK, CHANTAL   HEBERT, ANDREW COYNE, AND   ALTHIA   RAJ.  >>> OKAY.  I WANT TO START WITH THE   PRIORITIES.  WE\'LL TALK ABOUT THE PRESIDENT   IN A MINUTE, BUT THE PRIORITIES  THAT WE WOULD EXPECT THE PRIME   MINISTER TO MAKE IN THESE FIRST  DAYS AND WEEKS?  CHANTAL.  >> THE LIST IS SO LONG.  TRUMP IS A PRIORITY FOR OBVIOUS  REASONS AND I\'M GUESSING THAT   MEETING IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE   SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.  I DON\'T EXPECT A LOT OF   SUBSTANCE OUT OF IT BUT THE   FORMAT WILL MATTER AND VERY FEW  PEOPLE, I CAN\'T THINK OF ANY,   WALKED INTO THAT OVAL OFFICE   MEETING AND CAME OUTLOOKING   BIGGER THAN THEY WERE WHEN THEY  CAME IN.  SMALLER AS BEING THE CASE OR   CONFRONTATION IF IT\'S TRUE.  THEN WE\'RE FIRST TALKING   INTERNATIONAL STUFF, THAT G7   MEETING THAT CANADA IS HEADING,  IT\'S COMING UP QUICKLY, AT THE   END OF JUNE.  AND WHEN YOU\'RE THE HOST   COUNTRY, YOU\'RE SUPPOSED TO TIE  -- YOU\'RE SUPPOSED TO KIND OF   TIE IT TOGETHER, AND THAT\'S   QUITE A BIG TASK.  MOVING ONTO OTHER ISSUES, THIS   IS A PRIME MINISTER THAT NEEDS   TO PRESENT A CABINET.  HE\'S GOT NEW MEMBERS, SO HE\'S   GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHO DOES WHAT  IN CABINET.  HE\'S GOT TO DO IT QUICKLY.  HE NEEDS THE HOUSE OF COMMONS   TO   RESUME IN MAY.  HE NEEDS TO PREPARE A THRONE   SPEECH, POSSIBLY AND PRESUMABLY  A BUDGET.  IT IS A MINORITY GOVERNMENT.  HE NEEDS TO TALK OR AT LEAST GO  THROUGH THE MOTIONS OF TALKING   TO OPPOSITION LEADERS.  AND THEN HE\'S GOT TO TALK TO   THE   PREMIERS WITH POSSIBLY A 1.5   EXCEPTION, AND THAT WOULD BE   ALBERTA AND SASKATCHEWAN.  THERE IS A LOT ON THE PLATE OF   SOMEONE WHO HAS PROMISED TO DO   THINGS LIKE GETTING RID OF   INTERPROVINCIAL BARRIERS BY   JULY   1.  I DON\'T THINK HE\'S GOING TO BE   TAKING A BREAK UNTIL AFTER   CANADA DAY AT BEST.  >> Rosemary: YEAH, AND HE\'S   TALKED TO SEVERAL LEADERS,   FRANÇOIS LEGAULT AND SCOTT MOE.  IT\'S A HUGE AGENDA IN A SHORT   AMOUNT OF TIME AT LEAST IN  THE FIRST PART OF IT.  >> CHANTAL GAVE A COMPREHENSIVE  LIST AND ONLY SCRATCHED THE   SURFACE.  ON TOP OF WHICH YOU\'VE GOT A   DEFICIT THAT\'S IN THE $50   BILLION OR $60 BILLION RANGE.  YOU\'VE GOT THE MERCURIAL   TEMPERAMENT OF MR. TRUMP, AND   AND A LOT OF THIS MR. CARNEY   HAS REFERRED TO.   HE SAID WE\'RE GOING TO  BUILD THINGS AT A SPEED WE\'VE   NEVER SEEN BEFORE, WE\'RE GOING   TO BUILD PIPELINES.  NO ONE GOT OVER THE OBJECTIONS   THAT WE\'VE SEEN OVER PIPELINES   IN THE PAST.  THESE KINDS OF LARGE PROJECTS   AND LARGE PROMISES ARE EASY TO   MAKE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL BUT   NOW YOU\'RE PLUNGED INTO THE   MIDDLE OF THIS AND NO ACTUAL   EXPERIENCE WITH GOVERNMENT WITH  -- OTHER THAN BEING IN THE BANK  OF CANADA\'S JOB, WHICH IS   ORDERS OF DEGREE SIMPLER, NO   MATTER HOW MUCH THAT JOB IS.  CHANTAL MENTIONED THIS, HE   IMPRESSED ME WITH A 23-MEMBER   CABINET, BUT IT WAS KIND OF   JUST   FOR SHOW.  IT WAS A NOTION OF A CABINET.  NOW HE\'S GOT TO APPOINT A   CABINET THAT HE GOVERNS WITH   AND   THERE WILL BE ENORMOUS PRESSURE  ON HIM TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF   THE CABINET AND   LOSE SOME OF THAT PERFORMANCE   CACHET.  I\'LL BE INTERESTED TO SEE THE   SIZE OF THE CABINET AS AN EARLY  INDICATION OF WHERE HE\'S GOING.  >> Rosemary: ALTHIA?  >> HE HAS AN INTERESTING   CHALLENGE AHEAD OF HIM BECAUSE   HE DOESN\'T KNOW ANY OF THE OLD   PEOPLE THAT HE\'S -- THE NEW   PEOPLE THAT HE\'S ELECTED OR ANY  OF THE OLD PEOPLE THAT HE\'S   ELECTED.  THAT\'S GOING TO BE REALLY KEY   BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE THINGS   THAT ANDREW SAID THAT HE WANTS   TO DO, FOR EXAMPLE, ON   [INDISCERNIBLE], ON ENERGY.  HE NEEDS TO HAVE THE RIGHT   MANDATE LETTERS.  HE DOESN\'T EVEN HAVE A   PERMANENT   CHIEF OF STAFF YET, SO THERE\'S   THE APPARATUS OF GOVERNMENT AND  IT NEEDS TO FALL IN LINE BUT HE  DOES HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE   HAVING   WORKED IN THE FINANCE   DEPARTMENT.  THE TEAM AROUND HIM AT THE   MOMENT KNOWS HOW TO ENACT   CHANGE   SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO DRIVE IT.  I DO THINK THERE\'S TWO   OPPORTUNITIES.  HE HAD TALKED A LOT ABOUT   NATIONAL UNITY  AND GOVERNING FOR ALL   CANADIANS.  HE COULD PICK APART THE   CONSERVATIVE PLATFORM AND TAKE   SOME OF IT THAT HE LIKES THAT   THE LIBERALS ALSO HAVEN\'T   TAKEN,   AND MR. POILIEVRE HAVE TALKED   FOR THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS THAT   -- ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL THAT  M.P.S DON\'T NEED A BREAK AND   CAN   KEEP WORKING AFTER THE CAMPAIGN  TRAIL.  MAYBE MR. CARNEY CAN TAKE MR.   POILIEVRE\'S SUGGESTION AND SIT   A   LITTLE BIT LONGER INTO JULY.  >> Rosemary: I PERSONALLY WOULD  VOTE AGAINST THAT.  >> I THINK THE AVERAGE PERSON   WOULD, AS WELL.  >> Rosemary: CHANTAL, YOU   WANTED IN THERE?  >> NO, BUT THE OTHER THING IN   THERE [indiscernible]  IN   AND IF YOU DO NOT PUT THE RIGHT  PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT PLACES   INCLUDING IN THE P.M.O. YOU   STAND TO LOSE YOUR FIRST TWO   YEARS.  THAT\'S BEEN THE EXPERIENCE OF   INCOMING PRIME MINISTERS, SO   THE   STAKES IN GETTING IT RIGHT   RIGHT   AWAY ARE REALLY HIGH, AND THE   FACT THAT EVEN, YOU KNOW,   STAFFING INSIDE THE P.M.O. IS   WAY UP IN THE AIR, THAT KIND OF  SUGGESTS THAT IT\'S A HUGE   CHALLENGE, AND IF YOU GET IT   WRONG BY THE TIME YOU FIND YOUR  WAY OUT OF THOSE BAD CALLS, 1.5  OR TWO YEARS LEFT.  >> Rosemary: WHAT ABOUT THOSE   RAISED EXPECTATIONS HERE?  ANDREW, IT SEEMS THAT MR.   CARNEY   HAS RAISED THE EXPECTATIONS OF   THIS, AS WELL.   >> AND YOU KNOW, THERE\'S NO ONE  WEIRD TRICK THAT\'S GOING TO   SOLVE THE TRUMP PROBLEM.  HE IS WHAT HE IS.  HE\'LL SAY SOMETHING ON TUESDAY   AND SAY THE EXACT OPPOSITE ON   WEDNESDAY.  IT\'S NOT CLEAR HOW MANY CARDS   THAT CANADA HAS TO PLAY IN   THIS.  FRGS -- IT\'S NOT SURE THAT   THEY\'LL BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE   IT.  IT\'S NOT SURE THAT IF THEY HAVE  ANYTHING TO NEGOTIATE.  IT\'S NOT CLEAR IF THEY   NEGOTIATE   THAT TRUMP WOULD LIVE UP TO IT,  SO IT\'S GOING TO BE GET   ACQUAINTED, TRUMP IS SETTING   THE   GROUND RULES FOR THE   "AT ISSUE" -- FOR THE   DISCUSSIONS, THAT TRUMP WOULD   HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT.  CAN I JUST ADD, ONE INTEREST   CONUNDRUM THAT HE HAS IS WHAT   TO   DO WITH MR. POILIEVRE\'S SEAT.  I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR   HIM TO TRY TO GET HIM IN SOONER  RATHER THAN LATER.  FOR ME, I WOULD SAY PART OF MR.  CARNEY\'S BRAND IS I\'M NOT QUITE  THE SAME HARD DRIVING   TAKE-NO-PRISONERS TYPE OF   POLITICIAN.  I\'M A LITTLE BIT MORE OLD   SCHOOL   A LITTLE MORE OF A  FAIR GAME KIND OF APPROACH TO   POLITICS, AND I THINK IT WOULD   BE DISARMING IN A WAY RATHER   THAN TO DELAY AND PLAYING THE   USUAL GAME OF KEEPING HIM OUT   OF   PARLIAMENT BUT TO BRING HIM IN.  >> Rosemary: YEAH, I ACTUALLY   WOULD EXPECT FOR HIM TO ALLOW   HIM TO DO THAT, FOR HIM TO  HOLD THE BY-ELECTION AND LET   HIM   -- HIM COME IN THE HOUSE.  WHAT ABOUT YOU, ALTHIA?  >> THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE   FALL   IF IT DOES.  REGARDING MR. TRUMP, I DON\'T   THINK THERE WILL BE ANYTHING   ANNOUNCEABLE COMING OUT OF THE   MEETING THAT\'S OF ANY   SUBSTANCE.  IT WON\'T BE OH, WE\'VE AGREED ON  A PATHWAY TO NEGOTIATE A NEW   FREE TRADE AGREEMENT.  I THINK IT\'S GOING TO BE ON THE  TARIFFS.  THAT\'S THE IMMEDIATE THREAT,   AND   IF CARNEY CAN SHOW ANY   MOVEMENT -- IF MR. CARNEY CAN   SHOW ANY MOVEMENT ON THE U.S.   TARIFFS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE   A   HUGE BOON AND A BIT OF A   SURPRISE.  >> Rosemary: OKAY.  WHEN WE COME BACK, WE\'RE GOING   TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THE   CONSERVATIVES ARE LOOKING AT   THE   RESULTS THIS WEEK AND THE  FUTURE OF THE PARTY.   >> DON\'T SEE ANY OPTION AT THIS  POINT THAT ANYONE IS GOING TO   GIVE UP THEIR SEAT. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Rosemary: "AT ISSUE,"   CONSERVATIVE LEADERSHIP.  DESPITE GROWING SATS AND   MEMBERSHIP, PIERRE POILIEVRE   FINDS HIMSELF OUT OF THE HOUSE   OF COMMONS.  BUT WHILE HE STILL HAS SUPPORT   IN CAUCUS --  >> PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT HE CAN   CONTINUE TO GROW THIS PARTY AND  GROW THIS COALITION.  >> Rosemary: THERE\'S ALSO SOME   CRITICISM FROM OUTSIDE THE   FEDERAL TENT.   >> I THINK THE CONSERVATIVE   PARTY OF CANADA WAS VERY GOOD   AT   PUSHING PEOPLE AWAY, NOT SO   GOOD   AT PULLING PEOPLE IN.  >> Rosemary: SO HERE TO   BREAKDOWN WHAT COMES NEXT FOR   PIERRE POILIEVRE, THE "AT   ISSUE"   TEAM, CHANTAL HEBERT, ANDREW   COYNE, AND ALTHIA RAJ.  I THINK PIERRE POILIEVRE AND   HIS   TEAM HAS SPENT THE LAST WEEK   REACHING OUT.  ALTHIA, WHAT\'S YOUR SENSE OF   THE   -- WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF A   COUPLE OF DAYS AFTER THE   ELECTION AND HIS HANDLE ON THE   PARTY?  >> I THINK HE\'S INCREDIBLY BUSY  BECAUSE EVERYONE I SPOKE TO   THIS WEEK SAYS THAT THEY\'VE   SPOKEN TO PIERRE POILIEVRE.  SO HE WANTS TO  ENSURE THAT THERE\'S NO   SURPRISES   FOR THIS CAUCUS MEETING THAT\'S   CALLED FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK.  THERE\'S BEEN A SUGGESTION THAT   HE MIGHT EVEN CALL FOR A   LEADERSHIP VOTE RIGHT AWAY IN   CAUCUS TO SETTLE THAT QUESTION   DOWN AND TO ENCOURAGE HIS   MEMBERS TO BASICALLY ADOPT THE   REFORM ACT, SAYING THAT I\'M NOT  SCARED.  THE THING THAT MR. POILIEVRE   HAS   THAT IS ACTUALLY AN ASSET IS   THERE\'S NOBODY ACTUALLY   ACTIVELY   INSIDE CAUCUS OR OUTSIDE CAUCUS  LOBBYING TO REPLACE HIM, SO HE   DOES HAVE THIS RUNWAY BUT THERE  ARE RUMBLINGS IN CAUCUS THAT   THEY WANT TO SEE CHANGE, AND   YOU   SAW SOME OF THAT THIS WEEK.  THERE WERE CONSERVATIVES DOING   INTERVIEWS ON THE CBC, SPEAKING  TO JOURNALISTS.  PEOPLE FEEL A LITTLE BIT   UNSHACKLED AND THEY FEEL LIKE   THEY DON\'T NEED -- YOU KNOW,  THERE\'S NO MORE CARROTS THAT   WILL GO WITH THE STICKS FOR   THREE YEARS.  THEY HAVE MORE LIBERTY AND THEY  FEEL THAT THEY CAN DEMAND   CERTAIN CHANGES.  THERE\'S ANGER DIRECTED AT THE   CAMPAIGN DIRECTOR.  AT THE CHIEF OF STAFF.  I\'M NOT SURE HOW THAT\'S GOING   TO MATERIALIZE IN THE WALLS OF   THE CAUCUS ROOM BUT  THERE ARE A LOT OF UNHAPPY   PEOPLE, AND THE ONE THING THAT   I   THINK IS ON THE MINDS OF A LOT   OF PEOPLE THAT ARE UNWILLING TO  SAY SO PUBLICLY BECAUSE THE   CONSERVATIVES DIDN\'T WIN THE   GRS -- THEY DIDN\'T WIN THE   POPULAR VOTE LIKE THEY DID IN   2021 AND 2019 IS MR.   POILIEVRE\'S APPROACH.  YES, THEY DREW IN THE P.P.C.   BUT   THAT CAN ONLY HELP YOU WIN SO   MANY SEATS IF THE TURNOUT IS   LOW   AND THE POPULATION IS DIVIDED.  IF THEY WANT TO WIN AN ELECTION  MAJORITY ON THEIR OWN MERITS,   YOU HEAR A MAJORITY SAYING THEY  NEED TO TONE THINGS DOWN A   LITTLE, AND I WONDER IF THEY\'LL  ASK MR. POILIEVRE TO TONE IT   DOWN A LITTLE.  WHETHER THEY DO THAT, WE\'LL   SEE.  >> Rosemary: YEAH, AND I THINK   THAT\'S ABOUT DOING INTERVIEWS,  CONSERVATIVES DOING INTERVIEWS   WITH ME AND OTHERS ON THE CBC   BECAUSE THEY FELT LIKE THEY   WEREN\'T ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT   SOME OF THE STUFF THAT THEY   DISCUSS IN CAUCUS, AND NOW THEY  FEEL THEIR IDEAS ARE MAYBE OR   SHOULD BE MORE WELCOMED.  CHANTAL?  >> NO MATTER WHAT PEOPLE SAY ON  TUESDAY, MR. POILIEVRE IS A   LEADER ON PROBATION AS IS ANY   LEADER WHO DOES LOSE AN   ELECTION, AND THAT DID HAPPEN.  IT IS A PROBLEM FOR HIM NOT TO   BE ABLE TO LEAD HIS PARTY IN   THE   HOUSE OF COMMONS FOR A NUMBER   OF   MONTHS AND HUMILIATION, I WOULD  ARGUE.  WHAT WILL BE SAID IS THIS COULD  HAVE BEEN WON, AND THERE WILL   BE RIGHTLY BLAME THAT WILL LAND  ON MR. POILIEVRE\'S DOORSTEP.  THE ABSENCE OF AN ECONOMIC TEAM  THAT HE COULD HAVE BUILD.  THE FACT THAT HE COULD HAVE   MADE   PEACE WITH PREMIER FORD IN   ONTARIO AND PREMIER HOUSTON IN   NOVA SCOTIA AND THAT THAT WAS   IN   HIS INTERESTS.  AND THE FACT THAT HE WAS TOLD   REPEATEDLY THAT HE WAS CREATING  BACKLASH AGAINST THIS PERSON IN  QUEBEC  AND IT COST HIM.  WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AT THE END   OF THE CAMPAIGN PIERRE   POILIEVRE   WAS LESS POPULAR THAN THE   CONSERVATIVE PARTY.  YOU CAN SURVIVE ONE WEEK, TWO   WEEKS, BUT YOU KNEW HE WAS   GOING   TO GO DOWN.  IT TOOK THE TIME IT TOOK.  I BELIEVE IN THIS CASE MR.   POILIEVRE IS VULNERABLE TO AN   OUTSIDE BID TO UNSEAT HIM OVER   THE NEXT TWO YEARS AND THAT THE  WAY HE TREATS CAUCUS MAY   DETERMINE WHETHER HE CAN   SURVIVE   THAT.  >> Rosemary: YEAH, ANDREW?  >> YES, HE\'S PROBABLY LIKELY TO  SURVIVE BUT HE\'S CLEARLY   WEAKENED.  I FIND MYSELF IN THE ODD   POSITION OF BEING PREEMPTED BY   MR. POILIEVRE BECAUSE   I WAS GOING TO SAY,  A, THEY SHOULD AVAIL THEMSELVES  OF THE POWER TO REMOVE THE   LEADER, AND THEY SHOULD HOLD   THE   VOTE TO REAFFIRM HIS   LEADERSHIP,   BUT HE SHOULD SHOW THAT HE\'S   GETTING OUT IN FRONT OF THIS   AND   NOT HIDING FROM IT, AND IT\'S   IMPORTANT THAT HE GETS THE   STAMP   THAT HE GOVERNS WITH THE   CONSENT   OF THE CAUCUS AND THAT HE CAN   BE   REMOVED ANY TIME.  IT\'S THE OLD SHOWBIZ ADAGE OF   BE   CAREFUL OF HOW YOU TREAT PEOPLE  ON THE WAY UP BECAUSE IT\'LL   HURT   YOU ON THE WAY DOWN.  THEY\'RE STILL FACED WITH THIS   DILEMMA, NOT ONLY THAT HE   PROBABLY COST THEM THAT   ELECTION BUT IN TERMS OF THE   STRATEGIC DECISIONS THAT THEY   MADE.  IT\'S HARD TO SEE HOW HE\'S GOING  TO IMPROVE ON THIS IN THE   FUTURE, PARTICULARLY WHEN   YOU\'RE   LOOKING AT THE SITUATION WITH   THE N.D.P.  THERE\'S ONE OF TWO THINGS THAT   HAS TO HAPPEN FOR THE   CONSERVATIVES TO WIN.  EITHER, THEY HAVE TO KEEP THE   VOTE SPLIT BETWEEN THE LIBERALS  AND THE N.D.P. OR HE\'S GOT TO   EXPAND THE TWO-PARTY SCENARIO,   AND HE\'S PROVEN NOT   PARTICULARLY ADEPT AT THAT,   EITHER.  EVEN IF THE LEADER ISN\'T GOING   TO BE DIFFERENT, THE LEADER HAS  TO BE DIFFERENT, MEANING A NEW   VOICE, A NEW APPROACH IF HE\'S   GOING TO HAVE ANY HOPE OF   IMPROVING ON THIS RESULT.  >> Rosemary: 30 SECONDS TO YOU,  ALTHIA.   THEN I\'VE GOT TO GO.  >> SO THERE\'S A LOT OF BELIEF   IN   THE CONSERVATIVES THAT HE   BROUGHT THEM TO WHERE THEY ARE,  AT 40-PLUS PERCENT,  AND I THINK PIERRE POILIEVRE   SHOWED THEM THAT HE CAN STRIKE   A   MORE CALM ADULT DEMEANOR, NO   -- LESS AGGRESSIVE, NO NAME   CALLING TONE.  HE DID THAT IN THAT SPEECH   WHERE   CAROLINE MULRONEY INTRODUCED   HIM, ADDRESSING THE TRUMP   THREAT.  HE\'S CAPABLE OF IT SHOULD HE   WISH TO DO IT, BUT I AGREE ON   -- AND HE IS DISCIPLINED ENOUGH  TO SHOW IT, BUT I AGREE ON  THE VULNERABILITY AND IT\'LL BE   INTERESTING TO SEE WHO HE PICKS  AS INTERIM LEADER.  DOES HE PICK SOMEBODY THAT WILL  CONTINUE THE TREND THAT HE\'S   SET OR DOES HE GIVE SOMEBODY   THE FREEDOM TO CREATE A NEW   CONSERVATIVE PARTY THAT WE HAVE  NEVER SEEN AS AN EXAMPLE?  >> ROSEMARY: THAT\'S   INTERESTING.  I SUPPOSE IT COULD HAPPEN AS   EARLY AS NEXT WEEK.  OKAY.  YOU\'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK THIS   WEEK.  WE THANK YOU FOR ALL OF IT, St.  MAARTEN, ALL CANADIANS -- WE   THANK YOU FOR ALL OF IT.  AS A MATTER OF FACT, ALL   CANADIANS THANK YOU.  NOW BACK TO HEATHER IN TORONTO.  >> Heather: THANK YOU, ROSIE.  >>> UP NEXT, THE YUKON RIVER   BREAK UP BRINGS DAWSON CITY   TOGETHER.   >> SUMMER\'S OFFICIALLY HERE.  PE ♪ ♪ [static pops] Many secretaries get coffee for their boss, but do they really have to, and is it part of their job? In what may be the first case of its kind in Canada, the Staff Association at York University in Toronto has gone to arbitration in support of a secretary who refused to get coffee for her boss. John McQuaker has more. John McQuaker:  September, 1978.  Staff at York  University strike.  One of the things they get  in their new contract  says if an employee  is required  to perform duties  of a personal nature not connected with the approved  operations of the university,  the employee may  file a grievance.  At the bookstore, a secretary  files a grievance against  the store director, refusing  to get coffee for him.  The director orders us not  to take pictures in the store.  The university administration  backs the director  in the grievance, and the  union files for arbitration.  Union President  Lauma Avens. Well, our members have been asked to balance personal chequebooks, have been asked to walk dogs, have been asked to buy wedding gifts for the spouse, and that is not part of our jobs. That\'s tending to the personal needs of a boss. John:  But what about secretaries who don\'t have union protection?  Marilyn Kalef is one. She has been working for a large  company for four years.  Kalef says doing errands  for the boss  boils down to how people  treat each other. It was a very busy time and my supervisor had just given me a tremendous load to do and there was no way I was going to get done before 8:00. And after a while he came out and saw how harried and harassed I was. And I thought took pity and said, "Oh Marilyn, "you look so harassed and so harried, could you use a cup of coffee?" And I said, "Oh yes, I really could." And he said, "Terrific, so could I. Here\'s the money. Go and get it for us." John:  Kalef told her  supervisor how she felt.  She won\'t be in  that situation again,  but it\'ll be at least  three months  before the secretary at the  York book store finds out  if she has to fetch  coffee for her boss.  It\'ll take that long to  go through arbitration.  John McQuaker, CBC News  , Toronto. ♪ ♪ >> Heather: YOU\'RE LOOKING HERE  AT AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE YUKON   RIVER AS THE ICE STARTED TO   BREAK AND THE WATER STARTED TO   FLOW.  THE PEOPLE OF DAWSON CITY   CELEBRATED THE END OF WINTER AS  THEY ALWAYS DO.  THEY SHOWED UP TO GIVE THE   CHANGING SEASON A WARM WELCOME,  AND TONIGHT THEIR TRADITION   MAKES OUR "MOMENT."  >> SINCE 1896 DAWSON CITY HAS   RUN A BREAK-UP POOL ON THE   YUKON   RIVER.  WHEN IT BREAKS, PEOPLE BET ON   THE DAY, THE TIME THAT THAT   WILL   HAPPEN.  THE FIREHALL HAD THIS LOUD   SIREN, AND YOU COULD HEAR IT   FROM ONE END OF TOWN TO THE   OTHER.  IT\'S, LIKE, SUMMER\'S OFFICIALLY  HERE.  PEOPLE ARE JUBILANT.  WINTERS CAN LAST SEVEN MONTHS   OR   SO, SO IT CAN BE A SLOG.  IT CAN BE A LONG TIME, AND IT\'S  -- YOU KNOW, THE RIVER\'S REALLY  REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT.  IT\'S  LIKE A BREATH OF FRESH AIR   ROLLING INTO THE TOWN.  YOU CAN SMELL IT.  IT\'S, LIKE, OPENING A WINDOW IN  A STUFFY HOUSE AFTER A LONG   WINTER.  WINTER IS NICE BUT IT\'S NOT   COMING BACK.  WINTER IS GONE, THE ICE IS NOT   COMING BACK.  EVERYONE GETTED EXCITED, AND   EVEN MORE EXCITED IF YOU\'VE GOT  THE WINNING TICKET.  >> Heather: IT GETS BETTER   BECAUSE PAUL DID GET THE   WINNING   TICKET.  HE WON THE POOL.  HE AND ONE OTHER PERSON GUESSED  THE WINNING DAY AND TIME: APRIL  30 AT 10:56 A.M.  PAUL IS GOING TO USE HIS MONEY   TO BUY A MEMBERSHIP AT A LOCAL   GOLF COURSE.  ENJOY IT.  >>> FROM ALL OF US HERE AT "THE  NATIONAL," THANK YOU FOR   JOINING US.  FOR NEWS ANY TIME, HEAD TO OUR   WEBSITE OR YOU CAN SUBSCRIBE TO  OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL.  I\'M HEATHER HISCOX.  GOOD NIGHT. [♪♪♪]  >> Heather: TONIGHT, FRESH OFF   HIS ELECTION WIN AND GEARING UP  TO TAKE ON DONALD TRUMP, MARK   CARNEY IS ALSO FACING A TEST   FROM WITHIN CANADA.  >> IF OTTAWA HAD ITS WAY   ALBERTANS WOULD BE LEFT TO   FREEZE IN THE DARK.  >> Heather: POINTED WORDS FROM   DANIELLE SMITH AS THE ISSUE OF   ALBERTA SEPARATISM HEATS UP   AGAIN.  >>> PLUS, WHAT CARNEY NEEDS TO   DO IN THE FIRST DAYS OF A   NEW MANDATE.  "AT ISSUE" WILL WEIGH-IN ON   THAT.  >>> AS CANADA\'S MEASLES   OUTBREAK   CONTINUES TO GROW, CONCERN OVER   ABOUT WHO\'S PROTECTED AND   WHO\'S NOT.   >> IT\'S SAD BECAUSE THERE\'S THE  GROUP THAT DOESN\'T APPROVE OF   VACCINATIONS AND THEY PUT   EVERYONE ELSE AT RISK.  >> Heather: WHAT HEALTH   OFFICIALS ARE TRYING TO DO TO   HALT THE SPREAD.  >>> SHAMED AND CHASED OUT OF   THEIR COMMUNITY.  >> WE\'RE UPHOLDING OUR OLD   LAWS.   >> Heather: A FIRST NATIONS   DEALING WITH DRUGS AND VIOLENCE  TAKES MATTERS INTO ITS OWN   HANDS.  >> Announcer: FROM CBC NEWS,   THIS IS "THE NATIONAL" WITH   HEATHER HISCOX.  [♪♪♪]  >> Heather: THANK YOU FOR   JOINING US.  ADRIENNE IS ON ASSIGNMENT   TONIGHT.  >>> WE HAVE CONFIRMATION   TONIGHT   READY TO LAY OUT HIS   --  THAT MARK CARNEY IS GETTING   READY TO LAY OUT HIS   GOVERNMENT\'S TOP PRIORITIES IN   A   MATTER OF HOURS, GETTING READY   TO HOLD HIS FIRST NEWS   CONFERENCE SINCE HE WON THE   ELECTION, FACING ISSUES FROM A   U.S. PRESIDENT THREATENING   CANADA\'S SOVEREIGNTY TO A   PREMIER PUSHING FOR HER   PROVINCE\'S SOVEREIGNTY.  AS JULIA WONG SHOWS TONIGHT, IF  ENOUGH ALBERTANS SUPPORT A   REFERENDUM OF ANY KIND, SHE\'S   MADE IT CLEAR SHE\'S WILLING TO   LISTEN.  >> Reporter: DAYS AFTER A   FEDERAL ELECTION, ALBERTA   UPSWINGING  OVER ENERGY REGULATIONS.  A RENEWED CAMPAIGN FOR ALBERTA   TO SEPARATE FROM CANADA.  IT COMES AFTER NEW LEGISLATION   BY SMITH\'S GOVERNMENT THAT   MAKES   IT EASIER TO FORCE THE PROVINCE  TO HOLD A REFERENDUM.  WHILE SMITH SAYS SHE\'S NOT   PUSHING FOR SECESSION, SHE SAYS  THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS DONE  LITTLE TO MEND A FRAUGHT   RELATIONSHIP.  >> WHEN WE VOICED OUR REAL   CONCERNS, THEY TOLD US TOO BAD.  >> WE HAVE NO CONSULTATION IN   REGARDS TO THIS AT ALL.  >> Reporter: THIS FIRST NATIONS  CHIEF SENT A LETTER TO THE   PREMIER, ONE OF MANY SAYING   SEPARATIST SENTIMENTS BREACH   TREATY RIGHTS.   >> THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE  IN REGARDS TO SEPARATING WITH   ALBERTA, AND IT HAS TO STOP.  IT\'S FEARMONGERING.  >> Reporter: TREATY AGREEMENTS   ARE SACRED AND SHOULD COME   BEFORE A PROCESS LIKE A   REFERENDUM SAYS THIS EXPERT.  >> ALBERTA THINKS THAT JUST IN   A   POLITICAL CONVERSATION IT CAN   MUSE OR JUST THINK ABOUT THE   POSSIBILITY OF SEPARATING   WITHOUT INVOLVING INDIGENOUS   PEOPLE AS A SIGN OF DISRESPECT.  >> Reporter: THE PREMIER   PRESSED   ON THE ISSUE.   >> I JUST FEEL LIKE I\'M NOT   GETTING AN ANSWER.  THIS COULD BE -- AFFECT THE   PROVINCE\'S REGION --   RELATIONSHIP --  >> WELL, I\'M NOT GOING TO   PREJUDGE WHAT CITIZENS ARE   GOING   TO DO.  ONCE THERE\'S A PETITION ON THE   TABLE AND THERE\'S AN ACTIVE   DISCUSSION FOR CITIZENS HAVING   ACHIEVED THE REQUISITE NUMBER   OF   SIGNATURES I\'D BE HAPPY TO   ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.  >> CANADIANS EXPECT US TO GET   DOWN TO WORK DEFENDING THIS   COUNTRY AND I DON\'T WANT US TO   SPEND A LOT OF TIME TO  WORRY ABOUT A SEPARATIST   ARGUMENT THAT\'S SUCH A FRINGE   ARGUMENT.  >> Reporter: FORMER ALBERTA   PREMIER JASON KENNEY IS ALSO   WARNING AGAINST SEPARATISM.  HE PUT OUT A LONG POST ON   SOCIAL MEDIA WARNING ABOUT THE   HARMS.  CBC NEWS ALSO REACHED OUT TO   THE   PRIME MINISTER\'S OFFICE FOR   REACTION BUT DID NOT HEAR BACK.  >> Heather: JULIA, WHAT LEVEL   OF SUPPORT IS THERE IN ALBERTA   AROUND SECESSION?  >> Reporter: WELL,  THERE\'S A RECENT ANGUS REID   POLL   THAT SHOW THAT ONE IN FOUR   ALBERTANS WOULD SUPPORT THE   PROVINCE LEAVING THE COUNTRY.  ALSO, 28% OF ALBERTANS VOTED   FOR   THE LIBERALS IN MONDAY\'S   ELECTION.  >> Heather: JULIA, THANK YOU.  JULIA WONG\'S IN EDMONTON   TONIGHT.  >>> CBC NEWS WILL HAVE SPECIAL   COVERAGE AS MARK CARNEY LAYS   OUT   HIS NEW GOVERNMENT PRIORITIES   TOMORROW.  THAT COVERAGE BEGINS AT   11:00 A.M. EASTERN, 8:00   PACIFIC, LED BY "POWER &   POLITICS" HOST DAVID COCHRANE   ALONG WITH OUR CHIEF POLITICAL   CORRESPONDENT ROSEMARY BARTON.  YOU CAN WATCH ON CBC NEWS   NETWORK OR ANYWHERE YOU STREAM   CBC NEWS.  >>> NOW AHEAD OF THE   CONFERENCE,   TONIGHT, ROSIE AND "AT ISSUE"   TEAM WILL WEIGH-IN   WITH THEIR EXPECTATIONS  ON CARNEY\'S FIRST DAYS IN FIRST  AS WELL AS WEIGH-IN ON PIERRE   POILIEVRE, AS WELL.  THAT\'S UP IN ABOUT 25 MINUTES.  >>> QUEBEC HAS CHANGED THE LINE  OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS, WITH   THE BLOC QUEBECOIS HOLDING ONTO  A SEAT, HOLDING ON BY 44 VOTES.  THE CHANGE WEAKENS THE MINORITY  GOVERNMENT SLIGHTLY TO 168   SEATS.  THE FINAL RESULT IS STILL   PENDING A JUDICIAL RECOUNT.  >>> BREAKING TONIGHT, CANADIAN   AUTO PARTS MANUFACTURERS ARE   GETTING A REPRIEVE FROM DONALD   TRUMP\'S TARIFFS.  THE U.S. CUSTOMS AGENCY SAYS   PARTS NOW COVERED BY NORTH   AMERICAN FREE TRADE RULES WILL   BE EXEMPTED.  NISHA PATEL IS HERE WITH MORE   ON   THIS.  NISHA, MANUFACTURERS WERE   BRACING FOR THAT 25% TARIFFS.  WHAT CHANGES WITH THIS?  >> Reporter: WELL, IF THE PART   FOLLOWS THE TRADE RULES THERE   WILL BE NO TARIFF.  DESPITE ALL OF THAT, THAT   SOFTENING OF THOSE MEASURES,   THERE\'S STILL A LOT OF   UNCERTAINTY ACROSS THE   INDUSTRY.  >> COMPANIES ARE ANXIOUS.  THEY\'RE WORRIED ABOUT BEING THE  ONES TO SHUTDOWN FIRST,   CONCEDES   THE MARKET SPACE TO SOMEBODY   ELSE THAT SHOULD NEVER GET   BACK.   >> Reporter: CAR MAKERS ARE   WARNING THAT EVEN REDUCED   TARIFFS WILL CREATE LOWER COSTS  AND HURT SALES.  ONE EXPERT SAID ROLLING BACK   THE   TARIFFS INSTEAD OF GETTING RID   OF THEM ENTIRELY IS LIKE   PUTTING   A BAND-AID ON A BULLET WOUND.  >> Heather: MERE THOUGHT OF   TARIFFS IS WORRYING A LOT OF   PEOPLE.  WHAT CAN YOU TELL US?  IS.   >> Reporter: WELL,  GENERAL MOTORS SAYS IT EXPECTS   IT COULD TAKE A $5 BILLION HIT   THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF TARIFFS.  STELLANTIS SAYS THAT ITS SALES   ARE DOWN ABOUT A QUARTER THIS   QUARTER.  THE COMPANY SAYS IT\'S PLANNING   ON MOVING SOME MANUFACTURING   FROM MEXICO TO MICHIGAN.  THAT\'S REALLY BEEN DONALD   TRUMP\'S PURPOSE, BUT EXPERTS   AND ANALYSTS SAY  MOVING OPERATIONS BACK TO THE   U.S. COULD TAKE YEARS.  >> Heather: A MAJOR SHAKE UP AT  THE WHITE HOUSE.  MIKE WALTZ HAS BEEN TURFED IN   -- AS NATIONAL SECURITY   ADVISOR.  IT MARKS THE FIRST BIG TURNOVER  IN DONALD TRUMP\'S   ADMINISTRATION DESPITE HIS   CELEBRATION OF HIS FIRST 100   DAYS.  BUT  AS PAUL HUNTER EXPLAINS, THE    WALTZ DEPARTURE WAS A LONG TIME  COMING.  >> Reporter: ON THE LEFT,   DONALD   TRUMP\'S THEN-EMBATTLED NATIONAL  SECURITY ADVISOR MICHAEL WALTZ   ARRIVING AT THE WHITE HOUSE   WITH   WORDS SOON TO EMERGE HE WAS   GONE.  THE SHAKE-UP, THE FIRST MAJOR   SHAKE-UP OF TRUMP\'S NEW   PRESIDENCY COMES AFTER WEEKS OF  PRESSURE ON WALTZ AND THE   REVELATION HE\'D ADDED A   PROMINENT JOURNALIST TO A U.S.   SECURITY GROUP TEXT CHAT ON THE  TEXTING APP SIGNAL.  THE CHAT CAME JUST AHEAD OF   THIS   U.S. ASSAULT ON HOUTHI REBELS   IN   YEMEN AND INCLUDED HIGHLY   SENSITIVE INFORMATION ON IT.  ON FOX NEWS IN LATE MARCH,   WALTZ ACCEPTED  RESPONSIBILITY FOR INCLUDING OF  ALL PEOPLE IN THAT CHAT, A   JOURNALIST SOMEHOW.   >> WELL, IF HE HAD SOMEBODY   ELSE\'S CONTACT AND THEN IT GOT   SUCKED IN, IT GETS SUCKED IN.  >> Reporter: ON CAPITOL HILL,   APPLAUSE ON WALTZ\' EXIT WHO   INSISTED MORE MUST FOLLOW,   CITING  DEFENCE SECRETARY PETE HEGSETH   ALSO ON THE CONVERSATION.   >> THE SECRETARY OF DEFENCE   NEEDS TO BE FIRED AND SHOULD   HAVE BEEN FIRED BEFORE MR.   WALTZ.  >> Reporter: FOR NOW, TRUMP HAS  OTHER PLANS, QUICKLY  NOMINATING WALTZ TO BE   AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED   NATIONS, AND REPLACING WALTZ  AS NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR,  FOR NOW, SECRETARY OF STATE   MARCO RUBIO.  WHEN THAT NEWS BROKE AMONG   JOURNALISTS, THE STATE   DEPARTMENT ITSELF SEEMED CAUGHT  OFF GUARD, INCLUDING EVEN ON   RUBIO.   >> DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG HE\'S   GOING TO BE SERVING IN BOTH   ROLES?  >> IT IS CLEAR THAT I JUST   HEARD   THIS FROM YOU.  I HAD -- THIS IS -- THE   MAGIC --   [INDISCERNIBLE] --   >> REPORTER: THE STATE   DEPARTMENT SPOKES WOMAN   EVENTUALLY DESCRIBING THE DAY   AS   AN EXCITING MOMENT, ADDING,   HEATHER, HER VIEW THAT IT\'S   ALL,   QUOTE, GOOD NEWS FOR THE   AMERICAN PEOPLE.  >> Heather: SO FIRST SHAKE-UP   OF   THIS WHITE HOUSE, PAUL.  IS THERE MORE TO COME?  >> Reporter: WELL, PETE HEGSETH  STILL HAS TRUMP\'S FULL SUPPORT,  SO THERE\'S THAT,  BUT ON WALTZ AND SO-CALLED   SIGNAL-GATE, THERE\'S MORE FOR   WALTZ BEFORE HE CAN BE   CONFIRMED   AS AMBASSADOR FOR THE U.N.,   DEMOCRATS ANTICIPATING FOR   WALTZ   THAT IT\'LL BE BRUTAL.  HEATHER?  >> Heather: PAUL, THANK YOU.  PAUL HUNTER IN WASHINGTON.  >>> UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT   VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY SAYS THE   DEAL   THAT HIS COUNTRY SIGNED WITH   THE   U.S. IS FAIR AND GOOD FOR BOTH   COUNTRIES, BUT IN UKRAINE   TONIGHT, THE DEAL IS GETTING A   COOL RECEPTION.  >> Reporter: RUSSIAN DRONES   TARGETED THE BLACK SEA CITY OF   ODESA, AN ATTACK THAT WAS   CARRIED OUT ABOUT THE SAME TIME  THAT THE U.S. AND UKRAINE   REACHED THEIR HISTORIC   AGREEMENT.  U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP   HASN\'T BEEN ABLE TO END THE WAR  AS QUICKLY AS HE VOWED BUT IT\'S  -- HIS TEAM IS PAINTING IT AS A  TURNING POINT.  WHILE UKRAINE WON\'T HAVE TO   DIRECTLY REPAY THE U.S. FOR   THAT, WASHINGTON SEES THIS DEAL  AS A MONEY MAKING OPPORTUNITY   BUT IT ALSO SAYS IT\'S A STRONG   SIGNAL OF ITS COMMITMENT TO A   SOVEREIGN STABLE UKRAINE.  UNDER THE DEAL THE U.S. GETS   PREFERENTIAL ACCESS TO INVEST   IN   KEY UKRAINIAN NATURAL RESOURCE   PROJECTS LIKE RARE AND CRITICAL  MINERALS.  IT ALLOWS THE UNITED STATES TO   MAKE MONEY IN PART, SAYS   UKRAINE   PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY   BUT   IN UKRAINE SOME ARE WARY.   >> MY OPINION IS THAT IT\'S   GOING   TO BE DIFFICULT TO MAKE A DEAL   AND WE\'RE NOT GOING TO BE   OCCUPIED BY RUSSIA BUT AMERICA.  >> I TRUST UKRAINE.  I DON\'T TRUST AMERICA.  >> SO IT\'S IMPORTANT TO   SIGNAL --   >> REPORTER: THIS ECONOMIST   SAYS   KYIV NEEDED TO SIGN THE DEAL   BUT   EVEN THOUGH NOW THAT U.S.   PRESIDENT HAS MORE OF A STAKE   IN   UKRAINE SHE SAYS THAT   EXPECTATIONS NEEDS TO BE   TEMPERED.   >> IT DOESN\'T SHOW EXACTLY HOW   [INDISCERNIBLE].   >> REPORTER: SO FAR, RUSSIA HAS  REFUSED TO AGREE TO THE 30-DAY   CEASEFIRE.  WHILE IT APPEARS THAT TRUMP IS   GROWING MORE FRUSTRATED WITH   THE   KREMLIN, THE WHITE HOUSE HASN\'T  FOLLOWED THROUGH ON ANY OF ITS   THREATS TO ROLL OUT ANY MORE   PUNISHING SANCTIONS.  BRIAR STEWART, CBC NEWS,   LONDON.  >> Heather: PAKISTAN IS ON EDGE  TONIGHT, BRACING FOR AN ATTACK   FROM INDIA IN RESPONSE TO A   DEADLY ATTACK LAST WEEK.  SALIMAH SHIVJI INVESTIGATES THE  LATEST FLASHPOINT BETWEEN   NUCLEAR ARMED NEIGHBOURS.  >> Reporter: THE OUTPOURING OF   RAW PAIN FOR ONE OF THE 26   VICTIMS OF THE TERROR ATTACK   HASN\'T FADED.  THE TARGET OF LAST WEEK\'S   VIOLENCE, TOURISTS VISITING THE  DISPUTED KASHMIR REGION, THE   DEADLIEST MILITANT ATTACK ON   CIVILIANS IN 20 YEARS.  IT TRIGGERED A SECURITY CRACK   DOWN IN KASHMIR WITH HUNDREDS   OF ARRESTED AND  POLICE WARNING FOR RESIDENTS TO  STAY AWAY FROM MILITANT GROUPS.  THE VIOLENT HAS SENT TWO   NUCLEAR   POWERS HURDLING TOWARD THE   BRINK   OF WAR.  SWOESH -- SWORN ENEMIES INDIA   AND PAKISTAN CLAIM THE ENTIRETY  OF DIVIDED KASHMIR BUT EACH   ONLY OCCUPY PART OF IT.  THIS BORDER CROSSING BETWEEN   THE   TWO COUNTRIES IS NOW SHUT, THE   AIR SPACE ABOVE IT CLOSED, AND   INDIA HAS SUSPENDED A   CREW-WATER   SHARING TREATY -- A KEY WATER   -- A CRUCIAL WATER  SHARING TREATY THAT PAKISTAN   RELIES ON DOWNSTREAM.  THERE\'S NO EFFECT YET FROM   PUTTING THE TREATY ON HOLD BUT   PANIC AND PROTESTS SAYING NO TO  WATER TERRORISM ARE GROWING.  THERE\'S ALSO SEEING ANGER AND A  -- SEEING ANGER AND A  DESIRE FOR VENGEANCE DRIVING   INDIA\'S RESPONSE.   >> SO THE PROBLEM FOR PRIME   MINISTER MODI IS DRIVING THE   ANGER AND KEEPING PEOPLE CALM.  AT THE SAME TIME HE HAS TO   DELIVER A RESPONSE THAT\'S   PROPORTIONATE AND CALIBRATED.  >> Reporter: U.S. SECRETARY OF   STATE MARCO RUBIO HAS SPOKEN TO  BOTH SIDES, URGING CALM AMID   FEAR AND DEESCALATION.  SALIMAH SHIVJI, CBC NEWS,   MUMBAI.  >> Heather: IN THE NETHERLANDS   PEOPLE ARE SET TO HONOUR THE   CANADIAN SOLDIERS WHO LIBERATED  THEIR COUNTRY FROM THE NAZIS 80  YEARS AGO.  TOMORROW MORNING, ADRIENNE   ARSENAULT WILL HOST SPECIAL   COVERAGE TOMORROW MORNING.  IT BEGINS AT 8:00 A.M. EASTERN,  AND SHE\'LL BE BACK WITH MORE   SPECIAL COVERAGE ON "THE   NATIONAL."  >>> NEW MEASLES NUMBERS SHOWS A  SURGE IN THE NUMBER OF CASES,   THE VAST MAJORITY OF CHILDREN.  JENNIFER YOON LOOKS AT THE   LATEST ON THE MEASLES OUTBREAK   AND THE FRUSTRATIONS FOR THOSE   TRYING TO KEEP IT IN CHECK.  >> Reporter: A CLIMBING GYM, A   RECREATION CENTRE, AND A   HOSPITAL, ALL AREAS IN AND   AROUND LONDON, ONTARIO WHERE   PEOPLE COULD HAVE BEEN EXPOSED   TO MEASLES IN THE LAST WEEK.  ONTARIO IS REPORTING 320 NEW   CASES THIS WEEK, BRINGING THE   TOTAL TO 1,242 THIS YEAR.  AND THERE ARE CONCERNS NOT   ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE VACCINATED TO  STOP THE SPREAD.  IN THE HALTON REGION WEST OF   TORONTO LESS THAN A QUARTER OF   SEVEN-YEAR-OLDS ARE REPORTED TO  BE FULLY VACCINATED.  OFFICIALS SAY THE NUMBER MAY BE  HIGHER BUT THEY DON\'T HAVE A   CLEAR PICTURE.   >> PEOPLE WANT TO BE PROTECTED.  THEY JUST DON\'T KNOW HOW TO   REPORT.  >> Reporter: THAT HAS SOME   PARENTS ALARMED.   >> IT\'S SAD BECAUSE THERE ARE   THE GROUPS THAT DON\'T APPROVE   OF   VACCINATIONS AND THEN THEY CAN   PUT EVERYONE AT RISK.  >> Reporter: MEASLES CAN CAUSE   A RASH, COUGH, AND FEVER.  IN SERIOUS CASES, IT CAN CAUSE  BRAIN INFLAMMATION AND EVEN   DEATH.  IT\'S PREVENTIBLE WITH A   TWO-DOSE   VACCINE.  ALBERTA KEEPS A CLOSE EYE ON   VACCINATION RATES.  ONLY 72% OF GRADE TWO KIDS ARE   FULLY IMMUNIZED, AND CASES ARE   RAMPING UP ACROSS THE PROVINCE,  193 TOTAL AS OF THURSDAY   INCLUDING IN UNDER VACCINATED   TOWNS LIKE TABOR.  HEALTH OFFICIALS ARE SCRAMBLING  TO CONTAIN THE DISEASE WHICH   SPREADS QUICKLY THROUGH THOSE   WITHOUT IMMUNITY.  >> THERE\'S A LOT OF   MISINFORMATION OUT THERE ABOUT   MEASLES VACCINES, ABOUT   VACCINES   IN GENERAL.   >> WE NEED TO BE SEEING THE   MEDICAL OFFICER OF HEALTH   PROBABLY ON A WEEKLY BASIS.  WE NEED TO SEE VACCINATION   CLINICS POPPING UP.  WE NEED TO MAKE IT EASY FOR   PEOPLE.  >> Reporter: CBC HAS REPEATEDLY  REQUESTED INTERVIEWS WITH THE   CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICERS IN   ONTARIO AND ALBERTA.  SO FAR THEY HAVE NOT BEEN MADE   AVAILABLE.  JENNIFER YOON, CBC NEWS,   TORONTO.  >> Heather: QUEBEC PLANS TO   BRING IN A FULL CELL PHONE BAN   IN ALL ELEMENTARY AND HIGH   SCHOOLS STARTING NEXT FALL.   >> I WANT STUDENTS TO BE MORE   CONCENTRATED, I WANT STUDENTS   TO   TALK TO ONE ANOTHER, I WANT   STUDENTS TO SUCCEED MORE.  >> Heather: THE USE OF CELL   PHONES, HEAD PHONES, OR OTHER   PERSONAL MOBILE DEVICES WILL BE  PROHIBITED ON SCHOOL GROUNDS,   INCLUDING ON BREAKS AND AT   LUNCH.  THEIR USE IS ALREADY BANNED IN   CLASSROOM.  ALSO, BY JANUARY 2026 STUDENTS   WILL BE ASKED TO ADDRESS SCHOOL  STAFF BY MR. OR MS. IN A BID TO  INCREASE CIVILITY AND RESPECT.  >>> TENSIONS ARE HIGH IN A B.C.  FIRST NATIONS COMMUNITY WHERE   ASSOCIATES OF A MAN ACCUSED OF   FIRST DEGREE MURDER ARE BEING   SHUNNED AND THEIR HOMES   DEMOLISHED.  TURNING TO TRADITIONAL JUSTICE   TO KEEP A COMMUNITY SAFE, NEXT.  >>> PLUS NORTH AMERICA\'S   LARGEST   DOCUMENTARY FESTIVAL SHINES A   SPOTLIGHT ON FILM MAKERS FORCED  FROM THEIR HOMELAND.   >> MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE   HAVING TO FLEE THEIR COUNTRIES   BECAUSE OF WAR AND   DISPLACEMENT.   >> Heather: WE\'LL LOOK AT SOME   FILMS MADE IN EXILE AND THE   HARDSHIPS FACED BY THOSE WHO   MAKE THEM.  >>> AND LATER, CELEBRATING A   BREAK UP, YUKON STYLE.   >> IT\'S LIKE CHRISTMAS DADA ♪ ♪ [knocking] Well, hello, Jared. Come on in. So we are just on a quick break, a commercial break for  The National,  so figured we might as well show you around. Welcome to  The National  studio. And this is the bestest of the gang\'s here. This is Joe, Dino, Dave.  Oh, that\'s Steve,  the director.  And Dave is  hiding down here. Joe is the keeper of the jib. The jib is our favourite camera here. We do have other cameras, though. They are robo cams. They\'ve all been named. You see them as camera two. I know them by another name. We have some other toys in here. This one is this is our smartboard. We use this a lot for elections because, you know, you can interact with the board. Here\'s a sample question. How likely are you to vote in the presidential election? The best thing about this studio is that we can change the look of the lighting. So it can be all red, it can be blue, it can be red and blue for, say, an American election, red and white for a Canadian election. There\'s lots we can do. We\'ve got these beautiful, beautiful monitors here which are fantastic for photography. And we have some [chuckles] some quirky versatility. So when we have a lot of people in studio on panels, we can flip this up, there are legs here, so we can sit, seat a whole bunch of people around this desk. And then if you come around here, because fundamentally I am extremely short, there\'s like a little platform so that I can sit here with eventually my computer and the scripts and have view of all the cameras and the monitors and the lights, and we\'ll do the show. Speaking of which, got to go do it. Talk to you later. ♪ ♪ >> Heather: AS BAY STORES   CONTINUE LIQUIDATING INVENTORY,  A REPORT TONIGHT SAYS CANADIAN   TIRE HAS BID ON SOME OF THE   INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY HELD BY   HUDSON\'S BAY COMPANY.  THE CANADIAN PRESS CITES TWO   SOURCES ASSOCIATED WITH THE   SALES PROCESS.  CANADIAN TIRE WOULD NOT   COMMENT.  >>> A FIRST NATIONS COMMUNITY   IN   B.C. HAS BANISHED A GROUP OF   PEOPLE AFTER A MAN WAS KILLED   LAST MONTH ON HAIDA GWAII.  AS BRADY STRACHEN REPORTS, A   -- OTHER FIRST NATIONS   COMMUNITIES HAVE JOINED IN,   SHUNNING AND PROTESTING THE   GROUP AS IT LEFT.  >> Reporter: A COMMUNITY ON THE   REMOTE ISLANDS OF HAIDA GWAII   IN A STATE OF UNHEAVAL AFTER AN  ATTACK LAST MONTH KILLED A   32-YEAR-OLD FATHER.  IN THE WAKE OF HIS DEATH,   MULTIPLE HOMES OWNED BY THE   BANDS DEMOLISHED INCLUDING THE   HOMES OF THE FAMILY OF TYSON   YOUNG, THE MAN ACCUSED IN THE   KILLING   ASSOCIATED WITH DRUG DEALING.  >> THIS IS REALLY A   DEMONSTRATION OF THE   FRUSTRATION   OF MANY ADMINISTRATIONS OUT   THERE.  MANY FIRST NATIONS -- YOU KNOW   WE AREN\'T THE ONLY FIRST   NATIONS DEALING WITH  THE SALE OF ILLICIT DRUGS.  >> Reporter: THE FAMILY CROSSED  THE STRAIT ON THE FERRY AND   WERE   MET WITH SEVERAL HUNDRED   KILOMETRES OF RESISTANCE ALL   THE   WAY TO PRINCE GEORGE.  IN VIDEOS UPLOADED ON SOCIAL   MEDIA PEOPLE LINED THE HIGHWAY   TO SUPPORT THE VICTIM\'S FAMILY   AND TO SEND A MESSAGE THAT   THOSE   BANISHED FROM HAIDA GWAII ARE   NOT WELCOME TO THEIR   COMMUNITIES, EITHER.   OUR ANCESTORS, WHENEVER SOMEONE  WAS EXILED FROM THEIR OWN   TERRITORIES,  THE NEIGHBOURING TERRITORIES   AND   ALL THE ALLIES THAT THEY\'VE   GOT,   THEY\'RE NOT EXPECTED TO SERVE   THEM.  THEY\'RE EXPECTED TO PASS   THROUGH   THE TERRITORY AND CONTINUE ON,   AND THAT\'S WHAT WE\'RE DOING.  WE\'RE UPHOLDING OUR OWN LAWS.  >> Reporter: RCMP STEPPED IN TO  ESCORT THE GROUP,  MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE IS   SAFE FROM HARASSMENT.  THE RCMP ARE ASKING FOR CALM   AND   FOR PROTESTERS TO RESPECT THE   COURT PROCESS.  POLICE SAY THEY KNOW WHERE THE   GROUP IS HEADING BUT THEY WON\'T  REVEAL THE LOCATION IN ORDER TO  PROTECT ITS SAFETY.  BRADY STRACHEN, CBC NEWS,   VANCOUVER.  >> Heather: INTERNATIONAL   CONFLICTS ARE DRIVING THE WORK   OF A NEW GENERATION OF   DOCUMENTARY FILM MAKERS.  >> WE THINK HAVING A PROGRAMME   THAT FOCUSES ON THESE VERY   ISSUES IS URGENT.  >> Heather: HOW THE HOT DOCS   FESTIVAL IS HONOURING FILMS   MADE   IN EXILE.  >>> AND ROSIE IS HERE WITH "AT   ISSUE."  >> Rosemary: HEY, HEATHER.  WE\'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MARK   CARNEY\'S FIRST DAYS AS PRIME   MINISTER AND WHAT HIS   PRIORITIES   ARE GOING TO BE.  SO WHAT ARE HIS PRIORITIES AS   THE PRIME MINISTER BEGINS HIS   MANDATE?  CHANTAL, ALTHIA, AND ANDREW   JOIN   ME TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND  ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [♪♪♪]  >> Heather: THIS YEAR\'S TONY   AWARD NOMINATIONS ARE OUT.  AUDRA MACDONALD IS UP FOR LEAD   ACTRESS IN A MUSICAL FOR THE   BROADWAY REVIVAL OF GYPSY.  SHE\'S NOW THE MOST NOMINATED   PERFORMER EVER WITH 11 NODS AND  THE WINNER OF SIX AWARDS.  TONY WINNER CYNTHIA ARIVO HOSTS  THE BIG SHOW ON JUNE 8.  >>> NORTH AMERICA\'S LARGEST   DOCUMENTARY FILM FESTIVAL S   -- HOT DOCS HAS A NEW CATEGORY,  HONOURING DOCUMENTARY FILMS   MADE   BY DISPLACED FILM MAKERS.  MAKDA GHEBRESSLASSIE HAS MORE   ON   THE IMPORTANT STORIES THEY\'RE   TELLING.  >> Reporter: WAVES OF JOY TURN   INTO SADNESS IN THIS   DOCUMENTARY THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE  SACRIFICES OF  SUDANESE CITIZENS AND THEIR   LIVES DESTROYED.  AFTER WAR BROKE OUT IN 2023 THE  FILM\'S PARTICIPANTS AND   CINEMATIC TEAM WERE FORCED TO   FSHS -- TO FREE TO EAST AFRICA,  YET WITH THE HELP OF THINGS   LIKE GREEN SCREENS, THEY WERE   ABLE TO COMPLETE THE FILM AND   SUBMIT THE FILM UNDER   DOCUMENTARIES MADE IN EXILE.  >> MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE   HAVING TO FLEE THEIR COUNTRIES   AMID DISPLACEMENT, SO I THINK   THAT HAVING AN EVENT THAT   FOCUSES ON THESE ISSUES IS   IMPORTANT.  [♪♪♪]  >> Reporter: OVER TEN YEARS,   THIS PRODUCER FILMED LIFE IN   HER   HOME COUNTRY.   FOR ONE FILM SUBJECT, THE FILM   WAS HIS TICKET OUT OF GAZA.  >> THE CONDITIONS IN GAZA, HOW   THEY HAVE THIS SPIRIT THAT I   EVENTUALLY ENDED UP CALL THE   PALESTINIAN SPIRIT.  >> Reporter: A DESPERATE NEED   TO REVEAL COMPLICATING TRUTHS   IS ALSO A DRIVING  FORCE FOR THE FILM MAKERS   BEHIND   THE LONGER YOU BLEED.  THE DOC EXPLORES THE ENDLESS   STREAM OF WAR IMAGES ON SOCIAL   MEDIA AND THE TOLL THAT THE WAR  TAKES ON YOUNG DISPLACED   UKRAINIANS.   >> IT\'S GIVING US A SPIRIT OF   UNITY WHICH I THINK IS VERY   CRUCIAL FOR MENTAL SANITY AND   FOR SURVIVAL.  >> Reporter: WHILE HOT DOCS   SAYS   IT\'S DELIGHTED WITH THE SUCCESS  OF THIS YEAR\'S MADE IN EXILE   CATEGORY THE FUTURE OF THE   PROGRAMME REMAINS UNKNOWN.  MAKDA GHEBRESSLASSIE, CBC NEWS,  TORONTO.  >> Heather: TIME NOW TO DIG   DEEPER INTO THE STORIES SHAPING  OUR WORLD AND THE "AT ISSUE"   PANEL\'S EXPECTATIONS FOR THE   PRIME MINISTER\'S FIRST POST   ELECTION WEEK.  >> Rosemary: "AT ISSUE," WITH   THE ELECTION IN HIS REARVIEW   MIRROR, PRIME MINISTER MARK   CARNEY IS WORKING ON ISSUES IN  RELATION TO HIS GOVERNMENT.   >> President Donald Trump: HE\'S  A VERY NICE GENTLEMAN AND HE\'S   GOING TO COME TO THE WHITE   HOUSE   VERY SHORTLY, WITHIN THE NEXT   WEEK OR LESS.  >> Rosemary: SO WHAT WILL BE   THE   PRIME MINISTER\'S FIRST MOVES?  WHAT\'S AT STAKE IN HIS FIRST   FACE-TO-FACE MEETING WITH   DONALD TRUMP?  HERE TO BREAK IT DOWN FOR THE   THIRD TIME THIS WEEK, CHANTAL   HEBERT, ANDREW COYNE, AND   ALTHIA   RAJ.  >>> OKAY.  I WANT TO START WITH THE   PRIORITIES.  WE\'LL TALK ABOUT THE PRESIDENT   IN A MINUTE, BUT THE PRIORITIES  THAT WE WOULD EXPECT THE PRIME   MINISTER TO MAKE IN THESE FIRST  DAYS AND WEEKS?  CHANTAL.  >> THE LIST IS SO LONG.  TRUMP IS A PRIORITY FOR OBVIOUS  REASONS AND I\'M GUESSING THAT   MEETING IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE   SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.  I DON\'T EXPECT A LOT OF   SUBSTANCE OUT OF IT BUT THE   FORMAT WILL MATTER AND VERY FEW  PEOPLE, I CAN\'T THINK OF ANY,   WALKED INTO THAT OVAL OFFICE   MEETING AND CAME OUTLOOKING   BIGGER THAN THEY WERE WHEN THEY  CAME IN.  SMALLER AS BEING THE CASE OR   CONFRONTATION IF IT\'S TRUE.  THEN WE\'RE FIRST TALKING   INTERNATIONAL STUFF, THAT G7   MEETING THAT CANADA IS HEADING,  IT\'S COMING UP QUICKLY, AT THE   END OF JUNE.  AND WHEN YOU\'RE THE HOST   COUNTRY, YOU\'RE SUPPOSED TO TIE  -- YOU\'RE SUPPOSED TO KIND OF   TIE IT TOGETHER, AND THAT\'S   QUITE A BIG TASK.  MOVING ONTO OTHER ISSUES, THIS   IS A PRIME MINISTER THAT NEEDS   TO PRESENT A CABINET.  HE\'S GOT NEW MEMBERS, SO HE\'S   GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHO DOES WHAT  IN CABINET.  HE\'S GOT TO DO IT QUICKLY.  HE NEEDS THE HOUSE OF COMMONS   TO   RESUME IN MAY.  HE NEEDS TO PREPARE A THRONE   SPEECH, POSSIBLY AND PRESUMABLY  A BUDGET.  IT IS A MINORITY GOVERNMENT.  HE NEEDS TO TALK OR AT LEAST GO  THROUGH THE MOTIONS OF TALKING   TO OPPOSITION LEADERS.  AND THEN HE\'S GOT TO TALK TO   THE   PREMIERS WITH POSSIBLY A 1.5   EXCEPTION, AND THAT WOULD BE   ALBERTA AND SASKATCHEWAN.  THERE IS A LOT ON THE PLATE OF   SOMEONE WHO HAS PROMISED TO DO   THINGS LIKE GETTING RID OF   INTERPROVINCIAL BARRIERS BY   JULY   1.  I DON\'T THINK HE\'S GOING TO BE   TAKING A BREAK UNTIL AFTER   CANADA DAY AT BEST.  >> Rosemary: YEAH, AND HE\'S   TALKED TO SEVERAL LEADERS,   FRANÇOIS LEGAULT AND SCOTT MOE.  IT\'S A HUGE AGENDA IN A SHORT   AMOUNT OF TIME AT LEAST IN  THE FIRST PART OF IT.  >> CHANTAL GAVE A COMPREHENSIVE  LIST AND ONLY SCRATCHED THE   SURFACE.  ON TOP OF WHICH YOU\'VE GOT A   DEFICIT THAT\'S IN THE $50   BILLION OR $60 BILLION RANGE.  YOU\'VE GOT THE MERCURIAL   TEMPERAMENT OF MR. TRUMP, AND   AND A LOT OF THIS MR. CARNEY   HAS REFERRED TO.  HE SAID WE\'RE GOING TO  BUILD THINGS AT A SPEED WE\'VE   NEVER SEEN BEFORE, WE\'RE GOING   TO BUILD PIPELINES.  NO ONE GOT OVER THE OBJECTIONS   THAT WE\'VE SEEN OVER PIPELINES   IN THE PAST.  THESE KINDS OF LARGE PROJECTS   AND LARGE PROMISES ARE EASY TO   MAKE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL BUT   NOW YOU\'RE PLUNGED INTO THE   MIDDLE OF THIS AND NO ACTUAL   EXPERIENCE WITH GOVERNMENT WITH  -- OTHER THAN BEING IN THE BANK  OF CANADA\'S JOB, WHICH IS   ORDERS OF DEGREE SIMPLER, NO   MATTER HOW MUCH THAT JOB IS.  CHANTAL MENTIONED THIS, HE   IMPRESSED ME WITH A 23-MEMBER   CABINET, BUT IT WAS KIND OF   JUST   FOR SHOW.  IT WAS A NOTION OF A CABINET.  NOW HE\'S GOT TO APPOINT A   CABINET THAT HE GOVERNS WITH   AND   THERE WILL BE ENORMOUS PRESSURE  ON HIM TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF   THE CABINET AND   LOSE SOME OF THAT PERFORMANCE   CACHET.  I\'LL BE INTERESTED TO SEE THE   SIZE OF THE CABINET AS AN EARLY  INDICATION OF WHERE HE\'S GOING.  >> Rosemary: ALTHIA?  >> HE HAS AN INTERESTING   CHALLENGE AHEAD OF HIM BECAUSE   HE DOESN\'T KNOW ANY OF THE OLD   PEOPLE THAT HE\'S -- THE NEW   PEOPLE THAT HE\'S ELECTED OR ANY  OF THE OLD PEOPLE THAT HE\'S   ELECTED.  THAT\'S GOING TO BE REALLY KEY   BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE THINGS   THAT ANDREW SAID THAT HE WANTS   TO DO, FOR EXAMPLE, ON   [INDISCERNIBLE], ON ENERGY.  HE NEEDS TO HAVE THE RIGHT   MANDATE LETTERS.  HE DOESN\'T EVEN HAVE A   PERMANENT   CHIEF OF STAFF YET, SO THERE\'S   THE APPARATUS OF GOVERNMENT AND  IT NEEDS TO FALL IN LINE BUT HE  DOES HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE   HAVING   WORKED IN THE FINANCE   DEPARTMENT.  THE TEAM AROUND HIM AT THE   MOMENT KNOWS HOW TO ENACT   CHANGE   SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO DRIVE IT.  I DO THINK THERE\'S TWO   OPPORTUNITIES.  HE HAD TALKED A LOT ABOUT   NATIONAL UNITY  AND GOVERNING FOR ALL   CANADIANS.  HE COULD PICK APART THE   CONSERVATIVE PLATFORM AND TAKE   SOME OF IT THAT HE LIKES THAT   THE LIBERALS ALSO HAVEN\'T   TAKEN,   AND MR. POILIEVRE HAVE TALKED   FOR THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS THAT   -- ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL THAT  M.P.S DON\'T NEED A BREAK AND   CAN   KEEP WORKING AFTER THE CAMPAIGN  TRAIL.  MAYBE MR. CARNEY CAN TAKE MR.   POILIEVRE\'S SUGGESTION AND SIT   A   LITTLE BIT LONGER INTO JULY.  >> Rosemary: I PERSONALLY WOULD  VOTE AGAINST THAT.  >> I THINK THE AVERAGE PERSON   WOULD, AS WELL.  >> Rosemary: CHANTAL, YOU   WANTED IN THERE?  >> NO, BUT THE OTHER THING IN   THERE [indiscernible]  IN   AND IF YOU DO NOT PUT THE RIGHT  PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT PLACES   INCLUDING IN THE P.M.O. YOU   STAND TO LOSE YOUR FIRST TWO   YEARS.  THAT\'S BEEN THE EXPERIENCE OF   INCOMING PRIME MINISTERS, SO   THE   STAKES IN GETTING IT RIGHT   RIGHT   AWAY ARE REALLY HIGH, AND THE   FACT THAT EVEN, YOU KNOW,   STAFFING INSIDE THE P.M.O. IS   WAY UP IN THE AIR, THAT KIND OF  SUGGESTS THAT IT\'S A HUGE   CHALLENGE, AND IF YOU GET IT   WRONG BY THE TIME YOU FIND YOUR  WAY OUT OF THOSE BAD CALLS, 1.5  OR TWO YEARS LEFT.  >> Rosemary: WHAT ABOUT THOSE   RAISED EXPECTATIONS HERE?  ANDREW, IT SEEMS THAT MR.   CARNEY   HAS RAISED THE EXPECTATIONS OF   THIS, AS WELL.   >> AND YOU KNOW, THERE\'S NO ONE  WEIRD TRICK THAT\'S GOING TO   SOLVE THE TRUMP PROBLEM.  HE IS WHAT HE IS.  HE\'LL SAY SOMETHING ON TUESDAY   AND SAY THE EXACT OPPOSITE ON   WEDNESDAY.  IT\'S NOT CLEAR HOW MANY CARDS   THAT CANADA HAS TO PLAY IN   THIS.  FRGS -- IT\'S NOT SURE THAT   THEY\'LL BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE   IT.  IT\'S NOT SURE THAT IF THEY HAVE  ANYTHING TO NEGOTIATE.  IT\'S NOT CLEAR IF THEY   NEGOTIATE   THAT TRUMP WOULD LIVE UP TO IT,  SO IT\'S GOING TO BE GET   ACQUAINTED, TRUMP IS SETTING   THE   GROUND RULES FOR THE   "AT ISSUE" -- FOR THE   DISCUSSIONS, THAT TRUMP WOULD   HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT.  CAN I JUST ADD, ONE INTEREST   CONUNDRUM THAT HE HAS IS WHAT   TO   DO WITH MR. POILIEVRE\'S SEAT.  I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR   HIM TO TRY TO GET HIM IN SOONER  RATHER THAN LATER.  FOR ME, I WOULD SAY PART OF MR.  CARNEY\'S BRAND IS I\'M NOT QUITE  THE SAME HARD DRIVING   TAKE-NO-PRISONERS TYPE OF   POLITICIAN.  I\'M A LITTLE BIT MORE OLD   SCHOOL   A LITTLE MORE OF A  FAIR GAME KIND OF APPROACH TO   POLITICS, AND I THINK IT WOULD   BE DISARMING IN A WAY RATHER   THAN TO DELAY AND PLAYING THE   USUAL GAME OF KEEPING HIM OUT   OF   PARLIAMENT BUT TO BRING HIM IN.  >> Rosemary: YEAH, I ACTUALLY   WOULD EXPECT FOR HIM TO ALLOW   HIM TO DO THAT, FOR HIM TO  HOLD THE BY-ELECTION AND LET   HIM   -- HIM COME IN THE HOUSE.  WHAT ABOUT YOU, ALTHIA?  >> THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE   FALL   IF IT DOES.  REGARDING MR. TRUMP, I DON\'T   THINK THERE WILL BE ANYTHING   ANNOUNCEABLE COMING OUT OF THE   MEETING THAT\'S OF ANY   SUBSTANCE.  IT WON\'T BE OH, WE\'VE AGREED ON  A PATHWAY TO NEGOTIATE A NEW   FREE TRADE AGREEMENT.  I THINK IT\'S GOING TO BE ON THE  TARIFFS.  THAT\'S THE IMMEDIATE THREAT,   AND   IF CARNEY CAN SHOW ANY   MOVEMENT -- IF MR. CARNEY CAN   SHOW ANY MOVEMENT ON THE U.S.   TARIFFS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE   A   HUGE BOON AND A BIT OF A   SURPRISE.  >> Rosemary: OKAY.  WHEN WE COME BACK, WE\'RE GOING   TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THE   CONSERVATIVES ARE LOOKING AT   THE   RESULTS THIS WEEK AND THE  FUTURE OF THE PARTY.   >> DON\'T SEE ANY OPTION AT THIS  POINT THAT ANYONE IS GOING TO   GIVE UP THEIR SEAT. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Rosemary: "AT ISSUE,"   CONSERVATIVE LEADERSHIP.  DESPITE GROWING SEATS AND   MEMBERSHIP, PIERRE POILIEVRE   FINDS HIMSELF OUT OF THE HOUSE   OF COMMONS.  BUT WHILE HE STILL HAS SUPPORT   IN CAUCUS --  >> PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT HE CAN   CONTINUE TO GROW THIS PARTY AND  GROW THIS COALITION.  >> Rosemary: THERE\'S ALSO SOME   CRITICISM FROM OUTSIDE THE   FEDERAL TENT.   >> I THINK THE CONSERVATIVE   PARTY OF CANADA WAS VERY GOOD   AT   PUSHING PEOPLE AWAY, NOT SO   GOOD   AT PULLING PEOPLE IN.  >> Rosemary: SO HERE TO   BREAKDOWN WHAT COMES NEXT FOR   PIERRE POILIEVRE, THE "AT   ISSUE"   TEAM, CHANTAL HEBERT, ANDREW   COYNE, AND ALTHIA RAJ.  I THINK PIERRE POILIEVRE AND   HIS   TEAM HAS SPENT THE LAST WEEK   REACHING OUT.  ALTHIA, WHAT\'S YOUR SENSE OF   THE   -- WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF A   COUPLE OF DAYS AFTER THE   ELECTION AND HIS HANDLE ON THE   PARTY?  >> I THINK HE\'S INCREDIBLY BUSY  BECAUSE EVERYONE I SPOKE TO   THIS WEEK SAYS THAT THEY\'VE   SPOKEN TO PIERRE POILIEVRE.  SO HE WANTS TO  ENSURE THAT THERE\'S NO   SURPRISES   FOR THIS CAUCUS MEETING THAT\'S   CALLED FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK.  THERE\'S BEEN A SUGGESTION THAT   HE MIGHT EVEN CALL FOR A   LEADERSHIP VOTE RIGHT AWAY IN   CAUCUS TO SETTLE THAT QUESTION   DOWN AND TO ENCOURAGE HIS   MEMBERS TO BASICALLY ADOPT THE   REFORM ACT, SAYING THAT I\'M NOT  SCARED.  THE THING THAT MR. POILIEVRE   HAS   THAT IS ACTUALLY AN ASSET IS   THERE\'S NOBODY ACTUALLY   ACTIVELY   INSIDE CAUCUS OR OUTSIDE CAUCUS  LOBBYING TO REPLACE HIM, SO HE   DOES HAVE THIS RUNWAY BUT THERE  ARE RUMBLINGS IN CAUCUS THAT   THEY WANT TO SEE CHANGE, AND   YOU   SAW SOME OF THAT THIS WEEK.  THERE WERE CONSERVATIVES DOING   INTERVIEWS ON THE CBC, SPEAKING  TO JOURNALISTS.  PEOPLE FEEL A LITTLE BIT   UNSHACKLED AND THEY FEEL LIKE   THEY DON\'T NEED -- YOU KNOW,  THERE\'S NO MORE CARROTS THAT   WILL GO WITH THE STICKS FOR   THREE YEARS.  THEY HAVE MORE LIBERTY AND THEY  FEEL THAT THEY CAN DEMAND   CERTAIN CHANGES.  THERE\'S ANGER DIRECTED AT THE   CAMPAIGN DIRECTOR.  AT THE CHIEF OF STAFF.  I\'M NOT SURE HOW THAT\'S GOING   TO MATERIALIZE IN THE WALLS OF   THE CAUCUS ROOM BUT  THERE ARE A LOT OF UNHAPPY   PEOPLE, AND THE ONE THING THAT   I   THINK IS ON THE MINDS OF A LOT   OF PEOPLE THAT ARE UNWILLING TO  SAY SO PUBLICLY BECAUSE THE   CONSERVATIVES DIDN\'T WIN THE   GRS -- THEY DIDN\'T WIN THE   POPULAR VOTE LIKE THEY DID IN    2021 AND 2019 IS MR.   POILIEVRE\'S APPROACH.  YES, THEY DREW IN THE P.P.C.   BUT   THAT CAN ONLY HELP YOU WIN SO   MANY SEATS IF THE TURNOUT IS   LOW   AND THE POPULATION IS DIVIDED.  IF THEY WANT TO WIN AN ELECTION  MAJORITY ON THEIR OWN MERITS,   YOU HEAR A MAJORITY SAYING THEY  NEED TO TONE THINGS DOWN A   LITTLE, AND I WONDER IF THEY\'LL  ASK MR. POILIEVRE TO TONE IT   DOWN A LITTLE.  WHETHER THEY DO THAT, WE\'LL   SEE.  >> Rosemary: YEAH, AND I THINK   THAT\'S ABOUT DOING INTERVIEWS,  CONSERVATIVES DOING INTERVIEWS   WITH ME AND OTHERS ON THE CBC   BECAUSE THEY FELT LIKE THEY   WEREN\'T ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT   SOME OF THE STUFF THAT THEY   DISCUSS IN CAUCUS, AND NOW THEY  FEEL THEIR IDEAS ARE MAYBE OR   SHOULD BE MORE WELCOMED.  CHANTAL?  >> NO MATTER WHAT PEOPLE SAY ON  TUESDAY, MR. POILIEVRE IS A   LEADER ON PROBATION AS IS ANY   LEADER WHO DOES LOSE AN   ELECTION, AND THAT DID HAPPEN.  IT IS A PROBLEM FOR HIM NOT TO   BE ABLE TO LEAD HIS PARTY IN   THE   HOUSE OF COMMONS FOR A NUMBER   OF   MONTHS AND HUMILIATION, I WOULD  ARGUE.  WHAT WILL BE SAID IS THIS COULD  HAVE BEEN WON, AND THERE WILL   BE RIGHTLY BLAME THAT WILL LAND  ON MR. POILIEVRE\'S DOORSTEP.  THE ABSENCE OF AN ECONOMIC TEAM  THAT HE COULD HAVE BUILD.  THE FACT THAT HE COULD HAVE   MADE   PEACE WITH PREMIER FORD IN   ONTARIO AND PREMIER HOUSTON IN   NOVA SCOTIA AND THAT THAT WAS   IN   HIS INTERESTS.  AND THE FACT THAT HE WAS TOLD   REPEATEDLY THAT HE WAS CREATING  BACKLASH AGAINST THIS PERSON IN  QUEBEC  AND IT COST HIM.  WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AT THE END   OF THE CAMPAIGN PIERRE   POILIEVRE   WAS LESS POPULAR THAN THE   CONSERVATIVE PARTY.  YOU CAN SURVIVE ONE WEEK, TWO   WEEKS, BUT YOU KNEW HE WAS   GOING   TO GO DOWN.  IT TOOK THE TIME IT TOOK.  I BELIEVE IN THIS CASE MR.   POILIEVRE IS VULNERABLE TO AN   OUTSIDE BID TO UNSEAT HIM OVER   THE NEXT TWO YEARS AND THAT THE  WAY HE TREATS CAUCUS MAY   DETERMINE WHETHER HE CAN   SURVIVE   THAT.  >> Rosemary: YEAH, ANDREW?  >> YES, HE\'S PROBABLY LIKELY TO  SURVIVE BUT HE\'S CLEARLY   WEAKENED.  I FIND MYSELF IN THE ODD   POSITION OF BEING PREEMPTED BY   MR. POILIEVRE BECAUSE   I WAS GOING TO SAY,  A, THEY SHOULD AVAIL THEMSELVES  OF THE POWER TO REMOVE THE   LEADER, AND THEY SHOULD HOLD   THE   VOTE TO REAFFIRM HIS   LEADERSHIP,   BUT HE SHOULD SHOW THAT HE\'S   GETTING OUT IN FRONT OF THIS   AND   NOT HIDING FROM IT, AND IT\'S   IMPORTANT THAT HE GETS THE   STAMP   THAT HE GOVERNS WITH THE   CONSENT   OF THE CAUCUS AND THAT HE CAN   BE   REMOVED ANY TIME.  IT\'S THE OLD SHOWBIZ ADAGE OF   BE   CAREFUL OF HOW YOU TREAT PEOPLE  ON THE WAY UP BECAUSE IT\'LL   HURT   YOU ON THE WAY DOWN.  THEY\'RE STILL FACED WITH THIS   DILEMMA, NOT ONLY THAT HE   PROBABLY COST THEM THAT   ELECTION BUT IN TERMS OF THE   STRATEGIC DECISIONS THAT THEY   MADE.  IT\'S HARD TO SEE HOW HE\'S GOING  TO IMPROVE ON THIS IN THE   FUTURE, PARTICULARLY WHEN   YOU\'RE   LOOKING AT THE SITUATION WITH   THE N.D.P.  THERE\'S ONE OF TWO THINGS THAT   HAS TO HAPPEN FOR THE   CONSERVATIVES TO WIN.  EITHER, THEY HAVE TO KEEP THE   VOTE SPLIT BETWEEN THE LIBERALS  AND THE N.D.P. OR HE\'S GOT TO   EXPAND THE TWO-PARTY SCENARIO,   AND HE\'S PROVEN NOT   PARTICULARLY ADEPT AT THAT,   EITHER.  EVEN IF THE LEADER ISN\'T GOING   TO BE DIFFERENT, THE LEADER HAS  TO BE DIFFERENT, MEANING A NEW   VOICE, A NEW APPROACH IF HE\'S   GOING TO HAVE ANY HOPE OF   IMPROVING ON THIS RESULT.  >> Rosemary: 30 SECONDS TO YOU,  ALTHIA.   THEN I\'VE GOT TO GO.  >> SO THERE\'S A LOT OF BELIEF   IN   THE CONSERVATIVES THAT HE   BROUGHT THEM TO WHERE THEY ARE,  AT 40-PLUS PERCENT,  AND I THINK PIERRE POILIEVRE   SHOWED THEM THAT HE CAN STRIKE   A   MORE CALM ADULT DEMEANOR, NO   -- LESS AGGRESSIVE, NO NAME   CALLING TONE.  HE DID THAT IN THAT SPEECH   WHERE   CAROLINE MULRONEY INTRODUCED   HIM, ADDRESSING THE TRUMP   THREAT.  HE\'S CAPABLE OF IT SHOULD HE   WISH TO DO IT, BUT I AGREE ON   -- AND HE IS DISCIPLINED ENOUGH  TO SHOW IT, BUT I AGREE ON  THE VULNERABILITY AND IT\'LL BE   INTERESTING TO SEE WHO HE PICKS  AS INTERIM LEADER.  DOES HE PICK SOMEBODY THAT WILL  CONTINUE THE TREND THAT HE\'S   SET OR DOES HE GIVE SOMEBODY   THE FREEDOM TO CREATE A NEW   CONSERVATIVE PARTY THAT WE HAVE  NEVER SEEN AS AN EXAMPLE?  >> ROSEMARY: THAT\'S   INTERESTING.  I SUPPOSE IT COULD HAPPEN AS   EARLY AS NEXT WEEK.  OKAY.  YOU\'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK THIS   WEEK.  WE THANK YOU FOR ALL OF IT, St.  MAARTEN, ALL CANADIANS -- WE   THANK YOU FOR ALL OF IT.  AS A MATTER OF FACT, ALL   CANADIANS THANK YOU.  NOW BACK TO HEATHER IN TORONTO.  >> Heather: THANK YOU, ROSIE.  >>> UP NEXT, THE YUKON RIVER   BREAK UP BRINGS DAWSON CITY   TOGETHER.   >> SUMMER\'S OFFICIALLY HERE. ♪ ♪ [static pops] Many secretaries get coffee for their boss, but do they really have to, and is it part of their job? In what may be the first case of its kind in Canada, the Staff Association at York University in Toronto has gone to arbitration in support of a secretary who refused to get coffee for her boss. John McQuaker has more. John McQuaker:  September, 1978.  Staff at York  University strike.  One of the things they get  in their new contract  says if an employee  is required  to perform duties  of a personal nature not connected with the approved  operations of the university,  the employee may  file a grievance.  At the bookstore, a secretary  files a grievance against  the store director, refusing  to get coffee for him.  The director orders us not  to take pictures in the store.  The university administration  backs the director  in the grievance, and the  union files for arbitration.  Union President  Lauma Avens. Well, our members have been asked to balance personal chequebooks, have been asked to walk dogs, have been asked to buy wedding gifts for the spouse, and that is not part of our jobs. That\'s tending to the personal needs of a boss. John:  But what about secretaries who don\'t have union protection?  Marilyn Kalef is one. She has been working for a large  company for four years.  Kalef says doing errands  for the boss  boils down to how people  treat each other. It was a very busy time and my supervisor had just given me a tremendous load to do and there was no way I was going to get done before 8:00. And after a while he came out and saw how harried and harassed I was. And I thought took pity and said, "Oh Marilyn, "you look so harassed and so harried, could you use a cup of coffee?" And I said, "Oh yes, I really could." And he said, "Terrific, so could I. Here\'s the money. Go and get it for us." John:  Kalef told her  supervisor how she felt.  She won\'t be in  that situation again,  but it\'ll be at least  three months  before the secretary at the  York book store finds out  if she has to fetch  coffee for her boss.  It\'ll take that long to  go through arbitration.  John McQuaker, CBC News  , Toronto. ♪ ♪ What do we know? I think we can explain. Announcer:  About That  with Andrew Chang. >> Heather: YOU\'RE LOOKING HERE  AT AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE YUKON   RIVER AS THE ICE STARTED TO   BREAK AND THE WATER STARTED TO   FLOW.  THE PEOPLE OF DAWSON CITY   CELEBRATED THE END OF WINTER AS  THEY ALWAYS DO.  THEY SHOWED UP TO GIVE THE   CHANGING SEASON A WARM WELCOME,  AND TONIGHT THEIR TRADITION   MAKES OUR "MOMENT."  >> SINCE 1896 DAWSON CITY HAS   RUN A BREAK-UP POOL ON THE   YUKON   RIVER.  WHEN IT BREAKS, PEOPLE BET ON   THE DAY, THE TIME THAT THAT   WILL   HAPPEN.  THE FIREHALL HAD THIS LOUD   SIREN, AND YOU COULD HEAR IT   FROM ONE END OF TOWN TO THE   OTHER.  IT\'S, LIKE, SUMMER\'S OFFICIALLY  HERE.  PEOPLE ARE JUBILANT.  WINTERS CAN LAST SEVEN MONTHS   OR   SO, SO IT CAN BE A SLOG.  IT CAN BE A LONG TIME, AND IT\'S  -- YOU KNOW, THE RIVER\'S REALLY  REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT.  IT\'S  LIKE A BREATH OF FRESH AIR   ROLLING INTO THE TOWN.  YOU CAN SMELL IT.  IT\'S, LIKE, OPENING A WINDOW IN  A STUFFY HOUSE AFTER A LONG   WINTER.  WINTER IS NICE BUT IT\'S NOT   COMING BACK.  WINTER IS GONE, THE ICE IS NOT   COMING BACK.  EVERYONE GETTED EXCITED, AND   EVEN MORE EXCITED IF YOU\'VE GOT  THE WINNING TICKET.  >> Heather: IT GETS BETTER   BECAUSE PAUL DID GET THE   WINNING   TICKET.  HE WON THE POOL.  HE AND ONE OTHER PERSON GUESSED  THE WINNING DAY AND TIME: APRIL  30 AT 10:56 A.M.  PAUL IS GOING TO USE HIS MONEY   TO BUY A MEMBEHIP AT A LOCAL   GOLF COURSE.  ENJOY IT.  >>> FROM ALL OF US HERE AT "THE  NATIONAL," THANK YOU FOR   JOINING US.  FOR NEWS ANY TIME, HEAD TO OUR'}]