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[{'start': '0.160', 'end': '4.400', 'text': 'Tell me what happened, we basically got in, we opened the lock and started'}, {'start': '4.400', 'end': '9.760', 'text': 'serving the food from there. They were not afraid, they said, "We are entering this building that'}, {'start': '9.760', 'end': '13.440', 'text': 'is not ours, we are doing something illegal." But we are rescuing a space that was'}, {'start': '13.440', 'end': '18.160', 'text': "in the private world and we are turning it into a public space again. You don't want to be"}, {'start': '18.160', 'end': '23.040', 'text': "removing people from a building that is feeding people in need that no that doesn't make"}, {'start': '23.040', 'end': '27.960', 'text': "social sense human sense today I'm joined by Giovanni Roberto from Comedores Sociales thanks for"}, {'start': '27.960', 'end': '33.000', 'text': "being here Giovanni thanks for inviting me yes okay let's start with the story of how Comedores"}, {'start': '33.000', 'end': '39.240', 'text': 'Sociales takes over the Cagua Mutual Support Center I love this story I happen'}, {'start': '39.240', 'end': '45.240', 'text': "to tell it every time I have the opportunity because it's like a story of David versus"}, {'start': '45.240', 'end': '52.320', 'text': 'Goliath, this story of these interests, people with a lot of power and money, and this group of'}, {'start': '52.320', 'end': '57.280', 'text': 'Boricos, a community group, comes and says "No, that belongs to us, tell me what happened." Well, look,'}, {'start': '57.280', 'end': '61.960', 'text': 'Maria happened and what we had, right, was an organization with food in a warehouse'}, {'start': '61.960', 'end': '66.960', 'text': 'and we moved to Caguas to respond after the emergency and we came up with the idea of \u200b\u200bsetting up something'}, {'start': '66.960', 'end': '70.920', 'text': "that was called, right and is still called today's mutual support center. After a month"}, {'start': '70.920', 'end': '76.400', 'text': 'of Maria, we started looking for a better location in the town of Caguas and we saw this'}, {'start': '76.400', 'end': '81.400', 'text': 'beautiful and beautiful building that had also been abandoned for a long, long time. Right, the neighbors tell us'}, {'start': '81.400', 'end': '87.120', 'text': 'that it was there abandoned for around 20 years, undone. Absolutely nothing, so we decided'}, {'start': '87.120', 'end': '92.560', 'text': 'to go in, right? We looked at it, and basically we made a decision as a group that we were going to'}, {'start': '92.560', 'end': '98.640', 'text': 'do that occupation, that rescue of the space, eh, and nothing, and we got in, basically, we opened the lock,'}, {'start': '98.640', 'end': '104.960', 'text': 'we discussed the repercussions a little bit, and we assumed them as a collective, and we started'}, {'start': '104.960', 'end': '110.480', 'text': 'to serve the food from there, and to remodel it and update ourselves a little with the space. I mean,'}, {'start': '110.480', 'end': '114.880', 'text': 'after Hurricane Maria, there was hunger, so you said, we have to start distributing'}, {'start': '114.880', 'end': '120.560', 'text': "food, but we need a space where we can, it's spacious, so we can serve the community ."}, {'start': '120.560', 'end': '125.400', 'text': "to search and they saw this building, this building was perfect, it had, let's say, the spaciousness,"}, {'start': '125.400', 'end': '130.240', 'text': 'it was abandoned, this one of the ones we had seen was the one in the best condition in terms of'}, {'start': '130.240', 'end': '136.640', 'text': 'structure, eh, and well, we saw the empty space and we said "A kitchen fits perfectly here."'}, {'start': '136.640', 'end': '140.720', 'text': 'And we saw another living room and said "A dining room fits perfectly here." And that\'s what we did, right,'}, {'start': '140.720', 'end': '145.840', 'text': 'we remodeled the kitchen a little bit, we remodeled it, right, we put it in conditions for'}, {'start': '145.840', 'end': '152.040', 'text': 'cooking and we prepared the dining room to serve and we started this rescue in November 2017 and'}, {'start': '152.040', 'end': '156.680', 'text': "that's how we were, right, we continued the rescue work from this building and"}, {'start': '156.680', 'end': '161.560', 'text': 'then we started to do other things with the structure and with the idea of \u200b\u200ba mutual support center,'}, {'start': '161.560', 'end': '167.720', 'text': 'health services, etc. They were not afraid, they said "We are entering here into this building that is not ours'}, {'start': '167.720', 'end': '173.120', 'text': 'on paper, we are entering and we are occupying it Are we doing something illegal?" Yes, no, the truth'}, {'start': '173.120', 'end': '178.280', 'text': 'is that this was not difficult after María and what we experienced is that with María it is difficult to be afraid,'}, {'start': '178.280', 'end': '184.280', 'text': 'right? Because of the idea of \u200b\u200bthe rescue, on the contrary, we felt very confident that the rescue could'}, {'start': '184.280', 'end': '189.760', 'text': 'prevail, that what we were doing was necessarily necessary, so we understood'}, {'start': '189.760', 'end': '193.920', 'text': 'that no, no authority was going to come to remove us. In fact, the first day that'}, {'start': '193.920', 'end': '200.520', 'text': "we started the rescue, it happened to the municipal police of Caguas and tried, let's say, to intimidate us, but"}, {'start': '200.520', 'end': '205.600', 'text': 'we had a fellow lawyer who really knew about the processes and let him know that he'}, {'start': '205.600', 'end': '209.560', 'text': 'He asked, "Do you have a complaint? Do you have any notification from the owners? The police officer'}, {'start': '209.560', 'end': '213.280', 'text': 'said he didn\'t say, "Well, I know that then you can\'t intervene with us." And the police officer left'}, {'start': '213.280', 'end': '219.760', 'text': 'and we were there, that is, there was never any other intervention by the police. Uh, because'}, {'start': '219.760', 'end': '224.800', 'text': 'the owners did not appear, right? From the first moment we set foot there,'}, {'start': '224.800', 'end': '228.880', 'text': 'we made contact with the Center for the Reconstruction of Habitat, which was advising us throughout the'}, {'start': '228.880', 'end': '233.920', 'text': 'process to find out who the owners were, who the owners were, and the information they provided. was'}, {'start': '233.920', 'end': '238.560', 'text': 'Updated at least in the records was that that building had been lost'}, {'start': '238.560', 'end': '243.240', 'text': 'by the former owners through a bankruptcy process and had passed into the hands of the FDIC, which is'}, {'start': '243.240', 'end': '248.840', 'text': 'the entity that protects these loans and properties that are up to a certain value and after'}, {'start': '248.840', 'end': '254.160', 'text': 'that, it was unknown exactly who it had been sold to or any other situation,'}, {'start': '254.160', 'end': '259.320', 'text': 'so you continue using the space every year without knowing who the owner is and what happens'}, {'start': '259.320', 'end': '265.200', 'text': 'and well, then at some point we located the information, sorry, this is the persistent work of'}, {'start': '265.200', 'end': '270.960', 'text': 'CRH, uh we discovered that it was this company. of law 22260 The Morgan Reed Group that had been in Puerto'}, {'start': '270.960', 'end': '279.040', 'text': 'Rico, right, for almost the same amount of time as law 2260 and law 2260 to remember is this law that gives'}, {'start': '279.040', 'end': '283.920', 'text': 'tax incentives to people who move to Puerto Rico, a super attractive incentive'}, {'start': '283.920', 'end': '289.040', 'text': 'because it is a 0% tax on capital gains, something that in the United States'}, {'start': '289.040', 'end': '293.680', 'text': 'can reach up to 30 something percent, so they come to Puerto Rico and they do not have to pay that and that is why'}, {'start': '293.680', 'end': '298.440', 'text': 'we see that many people have moved here to benefit from that law especially'}, {'start': '298.440', 'end': '302.720', 'text': 'in the world of real estate which is the purchase and sale of properties and and this corporation is one'}, {'start': '302.720', 'end': '307.760', 'text': 'of the top ones, right this one that buys school from which the government negotiates school for'}, {'start': '307.760', 'end': '314.120', 'text': 'low price so they move they buy and they had it in total abandonment eh'}, {'start': '314.120', 'end': '318.400', 'text': 'they had not even paid attention right this in part of the negotiation in the conversations'}, {'start': '318.400', 'end': '323.480', 'text': 'with the representative of the company he told me himself we were not looking at that'}, {'start': '323.480', 'end': '328.120', 'text': 'property because our focus as a corporation is the properties in Santurci and Miramar, right,'}, {'start': '328.120', 'end': '331.400', 'text': 'so the properties they had acquired in other parts of the island including Caguas, but'}, {'start': '331.400', 'end': '336.520', 'text': "it wasn't a priority, we didn't really find out because someone called us on the phone"}, {'start': '336.520', 'end': '340.560', 'text': 'to let us know that the property was for sale on the internet, right? The person had'}, {'start': '340.560', 'end': '345.760', 'text': 'searched for the information, he was looking for a building and he had even gone to visit the building and when'}, {'start': '345.760', 'end': '350.760', 'text': 'he got there he basically left because he saw that the building was in use and he had the decency'}, {'start': '350.760', 'end': '356.040', 'text': 'and kindness of this Puerto Rican person to tell us "Look, you\'re in a building." That'}, {'start': '356.040', 'end': '361.200', 'text': "this one is for sale and he sent us the link and we, well, that's how we discovered that it"}, {'start': '361.200', 'end': '368.080', 'text': "also belonged to this corporation and that's when we started making the approaches. He didn't answer our"}, {'start': '368.080', 'end': '373.400', 'text': 'phones and emails until we appeared in a television report where'}, {'start': '373.400', 'end': '379.040', 'text': 'investors like him and like this corporation were denounced and after that, he did call us,'}, {'start': '379.040', 'end': '386.360', 'text': "he contacted us, then you see the link and it's for sale at how much it was for sale at 350,000 or"}, {'start': '386.360', 'end': '392.400', 'text': 'you see that and say "Wait." $50,000, no, we don\'t have that kind of money." That\'s more than'}, {'start': '392.400', 'end': '397.160', 'text': 'our annual budget at that time, so we say, "Well, wait, here'}, {'start': '397.160', 'end': '400.480', 'text': 'we have to establish contact, we have to let the corporation know that this building is in'}, {'start': '400.480', 'end': '405.800', 'text': 'use and we have to start a negotiation, right, based on the papers that we discovered, they'}, {'start': '405.800', 'end': '411.120', 'text': 'bought it for 108,000, so we la la, right, the first fight I had at the'}, {'start': '411.120', 'end': '416.080', 'text': 'negotiation table was asking for it for free, right, look, I know that you You have so many buildings and we'}, {'start': '416.080', 'end': '421.640', 'text': "know about your corporation. You could donate it to us. He took it very badly. Didn't he tell me not"}, {'start': '421.640', 'end': '427.400', 'text': 'to tell him how to do business? And then I tried to tell him, "Look, you bought it for 108 because you'}, {'start': '427.400', 'end': '432.600', 'text': 'can\'t try to get more than that from us." And then we continued fighting in the conversations until'}, {'start': '432.600', 'end': '439.120', 'text': "he agreed, let's say, to reduce it by 50%. Hey, this is the part that I find really crazy because"}, {'start': '439.120', 'end': '443.120', 'text': 'people say "No, what they did was illegal, they got into that building that does not belong to them,'}, {'start': '443.920', 'end': '449.800', 'text': 'but on the other side we are seeing this company that buys a building for about $100,000, it'}, {'start': '449.800', 'end': '454.480', 'text': 'does absolutely nothing to it, it left it abandoned, that is, that building is there, taking animals,'}, {'start': '454.480', 'end': '459.480', 'text': 'deteriorating, which is not of benefit to the community, and then seeks to profit'}, {'start': '459.480', 'end': '465.160', 'text': 'and sell it for almost three times as much and get that money out of it but without having touched it, that is, when'}, {'start': '465.160', 'end': '470.480', 'text': 'we talk about needing people to invest, what investment is it if you are simply buying it?'}, {'start': '470.480', 'end': '475.520', 'text': 'They are leaving it like this for years because it was 7 years from when they bought it until you came'}, {'start': '475.520', 'end': '481.600', 'text': 'into contact with this company, so tell me about how you approached them to tell them'}, {'start': '481.600', 'end': '486.560', 'text': '"Look no, I mean you are asking for this but we are not going to give you that." Yes, no, I was very frank'}, {'start': '486.560', 'end': '491.440', 'text': ', right, and with the reality that the truth of that negotiation and those conversations depended on the'}, {'start': '491.440', 'end': '497.120', 'text': 'service, right, were we at risk? He always took the position of threatening us that he'}, {'start': '497.120', 'end': '502.280', 'text': "was going to take us to court, that he was going to get us out of there, if we didn't accept, blah"}, {'start': '502.280', 'end': '507.760', 'text': ', blah, blah, but the thing is, well, reality protects us, right, what you just'}, {'start': '507.760', 'end': '512.560', 'text': "said, he bought it for a sum and didn't make any investment, we made a lot"}, {'start': '512.560', 'end': '518.520', 'text': 'of investments, we fixed it. We painted, we cleaned, right, we took five garbage trucks out of there,'}, {'start': '518.520', 'end': '523.240', 'text': 'uh, we updated it, we put solar energy in it, that is, we did a lot of things, now the building'}, {'start': '523.240', 'end': '527.960', 'text': 'was worth what he was trying to get out of it, but after our investment of our time'}, {'start': '527.960', 'end': '532.880', 'text': ', our sacrifice, that is, with that reality, well, I was very frank and very honest with him'}, {'start': '532.880', 'end': '538.440', 'text': "in the negotiation and we all knew that we could get it out that way, isn't it obviously, well, the"}, {'start': '538.440', 'end': '542.880', 'text': 'time, the discussions, uh, the discussions that we had in the group, what was the priority and the'}, {'start': '542.880', 'end': '548.440', 'text': 'priority was to keep the building under our control. right, our property, right, convert it into'}, {'start': '548.440', 'end': '554.040', 'text': 'formal property because they wanted to take them out, right, he threatened us, he never took us to court, right,'}, {'start': '554.040', 'end': '559.320', 'text': "it was always well, yes, no, if this is not decided on this date, if we don't manage to reach an agreement,"}, {'start': '559.320', 'end': '564.320', 'text': "this is what is going to happen eh, really, I didn't have any moment of fear in that sense"}, {'start': '564.320', 'end': '570.400', 'text': "because eh, he lost more if he did it, right, I let him know, you know, no, let's not get"}, {'start': '570.400', 'end': '575.280', 'text': "into that because you don't want a revolution, you don't want to be taking people out of a building"}, {'start': '575.280', 'end': '581.200', 'text': 'that is feeding people in need that no that has no social sense human sense eh'}, {'start': '581.200', 'end': '585.880', 'text': 'this person has credibility or the company wants to have an implementation in Puerto Rico so'}, {'start': '585.880', 'end': '592.200', 'text': 'within that game within what is the public press public opinion well I'}, {'start': '592.200', 'end': '596.800', 'text': "let him know that he could lose more if he went to court right we weren't going"}, {'start': '596.800', 'end': '601.200', 'text': "to get out of there right we had our own plan right what's going to happen where are we"}, {'start': '601.200', 'end': '606.800', 'text': 'going to get into right and what kind of things are we going to do eh but I had no fear that that'}, {'start': '606.800', 'end': '612.040', 'text': "was going to happen, right, he saw it as a distant probability and I think he did too and that's why"}, {'start': '612.040', 'end': '617.480', 'text': 'in the end he had to be flexible because he knew that a situation like that did not benefit'}, {'start': '617.480', 'end': '622.040', 'text': 'him, right, we could reinvent the project even in any other place, eh because'}, {'start': '622.040', 'end': '627.560', 'text': 'we have people who support us and there is a town that needs these services but the image of'}, {'start': '627.560', 'end': '633.000', 'text': 'that company is going to be quite lacerated, right, so I think that in that balance that'}, {'start': '633.000', 'end': '638.560', 'text': 'this person had to make, he preferred to negotiate and maintain the credibility of the company is'}, {'start': '638.560', 'end': '642.640', 'text': 'as it may be, I continue to speak badly of them in this interview and I have continued to do so in'}, {'start': '642.640', 'end': '646.720', 'text': "all the ones I can, the Morgan Reed Group, isn't it one of those vulture companies that"}, {'start': '646.720', 'end': '651.760', 'text': 'wants to keep our country and we have to keep an eye on what they do. In fact, this'}, {'start': '651.760', 'end': '658.080', 'text': 'corporation is tied because they create different corporations to buy different spaces.'}, {'start': '658.080', 'end': '664.920', 'text': 'This corporation has bought a lot of spaces in Puerto Rico of property buildings because'}, {'start': '664.920', 'end': '669.800', 'text': 'when I did the research for the documentary that comes out as part of the Badbon music video,'}, {'start': '669.800', 'end': '676.400', 'text': 'we found ourselves in the blackout. that also a corporation linked to this company is the one that buys the old'}, {'start': '676.400', 'end': '683.960', 'text': 'school that is in Puerta de Tierra, a school that was a public building where'}, {'start': '683.960', 'end': '689.440', 'text': 'boys and girls from Puerto Rico were taught the mountains, these corporations come and see this beautiful building'}, {'start': '689.440', 'end': '693.840', 'text': 'facing the sea, they see it as an opportunity. It is the same corporation that has bought a school in'}, {'start': '693.840', 'end': '698.400', 'text': 'Aguadilla that has bought a lot of buildings in the Santurce area, that is, it is a corporation'}, {'start': '698.400', 'end': '704.000', 'text': 'that came and saw an opportunity before the hurricane but also after to buy'}, {'start': '704.000', 'end': '710.920', 'text': 'a lot of these buildings at a price low so I can then sell them or create something different'}, {'start': '710.920', 'end': '715.920', 'text': 'For example, at the Puerta de Tierra school they wanted to convert it into luxurious residences facing'}, {'start': '715.920', 'end': '720.720', 'text': 'the sea, so in my research I have come across this company in many places'}, {'start': '720.720', 'end': '727.720', 'text': 'in Puerto Rico. Tell me about what has happened since they reached that agreement because in the end you'}, {'start': '727.720', 'end': '733.000', 'text': 'buy it for less than what you were selling it for, but you end up buying it. How much do they pay you? What'}, {'start': '733.000', 'end': '739.360', 'text': 'was the agreement? And what has happened since then? Look, we finally bought it for half. 187,500'}, {'start': '739.360', 'end': '745.840', 'text': 'was what we agreed on. We got three foundations that put up the money, right,'}, {'start': '745.840', 'end': '750.160', 'text': "because my main concern was, well, we don't have that amount of money,"}, {'start': '750.160', 'end': '756.160', 'text': 'we have it budgeted for the service for the people who work in the organization, right? If'}, {'start': '756.160', 'end': '760.560', 'text': "we invest it in the building, it's over, that is, there is no way to continue the organization, so hey, it was"}, {'start': '760.560', 'end': '766.200', 'text': 'important that these three foundations donated it and we were able to acquire it and basically'}, {'start': '766.200', 'end': '770.840', 'text': 'the biggest transformation is that now we are completely sure that the building is ours'}, {'start': '770.840', 'end': '775.720', 'text': "and that makes our desire to improve the building better. I didn't foresee that"}, {'start': '775.720', 'end': '779.920', 'text': "impact either, didn't I think it wasn't going to have, right, because it was the owner and we were owners of that"}, {'start': '779.920', 'end': '785.400', 'text': "building, wasn't it in our minds, however, it did have a very important impact on us improving"}, {'start': '785.400', 'end': '790.880', 'text': 'the quality of service and improving the renovations, like, uh, the population also'}, {'start': '790.880', 'end': '796.160', 'text': 'when they found out obviously they celebrate it and they feel inspired, empowered at the moment'}, {'start': '796.160', 'end': '800.480', 'text': 'they say "Ah what you have achieved." They always remind us that people always come to me and say, "Oh'}, {'start': '800.480', 'end': '804.840', 'text': ', you started like this and you already have this." Like, that has generated a sense of'}, {'start': '804.840', 'end': '809.520', 'text': 'empowerment in the relationship we have with the community that at the moment transforms, right'}, {'start': '809.520', 'end': '814.600', 'text': 'at the moment there is more vision of achieving greater things than what we had before and that is a'}, {'start': '814.600', 'end': '819.880', 'text': 'psychological and even emotional impact that is important to validate within the process. I'}, {'start': '819.880', 'end': '826.240', 'text': 'love the video where they celebrate that they finally communicate to the community that we are now owners'}, {'start': '826.240', 'end': '831.840', 'text': 'of this building because it is a video where you see different people, including elderly people'}, {'start': '831.840', 'end': '837.520', 'text': 'who are there with you, and when you say it, they start to sing, you sing'}, {'start': '837.520', 'end': '843.880', 'text': 'the song, it is from all over Puerto Rico, that video brings tears to my eyes because it is so nice at the moment'}, {'start': '843.880', 'end': '850.400', 'text': 'to see that something that had once again been bought with a profit motive is currently no,'}, {'start': '850.400', 'end': '854.560', 'text': 'instead of being closed and that it belongs only to this corporation, it is ours, it belongs to'}, {'start': '854.560', 'end': '859.160', 'text': 'all of Puerto Rico, it is open and also the reason why it moves me is because I know the'}, {'start': '859.160', 'end': '864.880', 'text': 'services that you provide and how nice it is to see that this community has a place to come together'}, {'start': '864.880', 'end': '870.360', 'text': 'where so many beautiful things happen, tell me about what happens inside the'}, {'start': '870.360', 'end': '875.400', 'text': 'mutual support center of Caguas, look. The Mutual Support Center is this social center where we have different'}, {'start': '875.400', 'end': '880.560', 'text': 'services, the main one that provides assistance to the population is solidarity purchasing. It is a program that'}, {'start': '880.560', 'end': '885.360', 'text': 'we created in the midst of the pandemic to help with the issue of food. Our format'}, {'start': '885.360', 'end': '890.400', 'text': 'had always been a soup kitchen, right, where people sit down to eat food that is already made,'}, {'start': '890.400', 'end': '896.240', 'text': "but with the pandemic, since we couldn't touch or see each other, we changed the services to purchasing"}, {'start': '896.240', 'end': '901.480', 'text': '. After the pandemic, we kept it and we have continued it because it gives us efficiency and'}, {'start': '901.480', 'end': '907.480', 'text': 'allows us to do more impactful work, so there we are serving about 230 families around'}, {'start': '907.480', 'end': '913.680', 'text': '450 people every month they receive some type of food uh the other thing we are'}, {'start': '913.680', 'end': '918.680', 'text': "doing there is a cooperative supermarket uh it's called el sidario right"}, {'start': '918.680', 'end': '923.880', 'text': 'solidarity supermarket is a model that we have seen in other countries of the world which is a membership model'}, {'start': '923.880', 'end': '930.080', 'text': 'where people donate work time to become members and that gives them access to greater benefits'}, {'start': '930.080', 'end': '935.560', 'text': 'right all the clientele that goes there are accepted whether they are members or not and they buy cheaper than'}, {'start': '935.560', 'end': '940.440', 'text': 'in the rest of the supermarkets because we collectively decided that we were going to impose'}, {'start': '940.440', 'end': '945.040', 'text': 'a substantial increase, we bought most of the things to resell and we are only'}, {'start': '945.040', 'end': '949.680', 'text': 'going to raise them 10%, so that makes many things cheaper but who'}, {'start': '949.680', 'end': '955.000', 'text': 'Become a member, donate work time, buy at cost, right, there is no profit on'}, {'start': '955.000', 'end': '959.800', 'text': 'that and that has allowed many people to join the organization. These are the two'}, {'start': '959.800', 'end': '965.040', 'text': 'most important food-related projects that we have and Sersolidario has become'}, {'start': '965.040', 'end': '969.360', 'text': 'the project that we are giving the most love to because we see a brutal potential to be a'}, {'start': '969.360', 'end': '974.720', 'text': 'center where farmers, consumers and people who are in need can have a common place'}, {'start': '974.720', 'end': '979.000', 'text': 'where they can exchange food in a way that is not true as the market has accustomed us to,'}, {'start': '979.000', 'end': '984.600', 'text': 'which is with money or the imposition of money as the only element of transaction eh, in addition'}, {'start': '984.600', 'end': '989.480', 'text': 'to those two things about food, well, there is another service we call it the health'}, {'start': '989.480', 'end': '996.440', 'text': 'and well-being space that we provide auriculotherapy services eh based on a health protocol, this one'}, {'start': '996.440', 'end': '1000.160', 'text': 'called the protocol, nothing has its own history, right, what can we do at another time, but'}, {'start': '1000.160', 'end': '1005.360', 'text': 'it has to do with helping people reduce stress, anxiety, post-traumatic syndrome,'}, {'start': '1005.360', 'end': '1010.520', 'text': 'dependencies, addictions, and we have found that after María it was one of the key services,'}, {'start': '1010.520', 'end': '1014.560', 'text': 'right, we were not only giving food, but we were putting needles in ears and that'}, {'start': '1014.560', 'end': '1019.840', 'text': "helped people a lot, didn't it, to be able to deal with what we were dealing with after María"}, {'start': '1019.840', 'end': '1025.280', 'text': 'and that service is the most consistent at the Mutes support center all week every'}, {'start': '1025.280', 'end': '1031.120', 'text': "Wednesday from two to six, and it's another thing that also moves me because I see those people"}, {'start': '1031.120', 'end': '1037.040', 'text': 'from the community, these ladies from the community to which you belong, having a space to'}, {'start': '1037.040', 'end': '1041.200', 'text': 'come and share with you because we know that we have a problem in Puerto Rico of'}, {'start': '1041.200', 'end': '1046.960', 'text': 'social isolation that people are in their separate houses. Recently, a report came out about'}, {'start': '1046.960', 'end': '1053.840', 'text': 'how many people we have, old men and women who are alone, who do not have relatives or people who look'}, {'start': '1053.840', 'end': '1061.760', 'text': 'after them. However, in this space, because you have been able to stay there, you can'}, {'start': '1061.760', 'end': '1066.760', 'text': 'have that social contact that is so important, and when I see those images, because when'}, {'start': '1066.760', 'end': '1073.000', 'text': 'I did a report with you, I had the opportunity to record one of these days, which are Wednesdays,'}, {'start': '1073.000', 'end': '1079.240', 'text': "don't they offer it, and record how nice it is to see people from soup kitchens and the cam giving"}, {'start': '1079.240', 'end': '1084.040', 'text': 'each other massages, welcoming these people from the community and giving'}, {'start': '1084.040', 'end': '1090.400', 'text': 'them real massage and acupuncture that breaks my heart in the best way because I say how nice that this'}, {'start': '1090.400', 'end': '1094.920', 'text': 'can happen in Puerto Rico that there is another way where people can meet and do not have to'}, {'start': '1094.920', 'end': '1099.880', 'text': 'be so isolated, yes, yes, with real impacts on the health of those people, which after all is'}, {'start': '1099.880', 'end': '1104.080', 'text': 'true, one of the objectives, much of what people reflect through the questionnaires we do,'}, {'start': '1104.080', 'end': '1108.800', 'text': 'arrive with a lot of pain, a lot of muscle pain, a lot of physical pain, and one of'}, {'start': '1108.800', 'end': '1112.840', 'text': 'the main effects they obtain is pain reduction, so we are sending people'}, {'start': '1112.840', 'end': '1117.960', 'text': 'who for The social issue that you mention, they are happier, they have contact, right, they feel'}, {'start': '1117.960', 'end': '1122.640', 'text': 'validated that they exist for other people, but they also come home and can sleep better, right,'}, {'start': '1122.640', 'end': '1126.720', 'text': "and that has an impact on people's quality of life, because it's priceless, right,"}, {'start': '1126.720', 'end': '1132.720', 'text': "what we achieve with the people there, so that's another service that we give a lot of love to. I"}, {'start': '1132.720', 'end': '1137.640', 'text': 'was also telling you that we have an increasingly larger space for young people, right, because'}, {'start': '1137.640', 'end': '1141.400', 'text': 'as you say, right, the majority of the population that comes to our center are adults. seniors over'}, {'start': '1141.400', 'end': '1148.080', 'text': '60 eh so we have started to discuss in the organization how what we offer also'}, {'start': '1148.080', 'end': '1152.120', 'text': 'touches the lives of other people right of the youngest of the families who perhaps'}, {'start': '1152.120', 'end': '1158.240', 'text': 'are not receiving another service so there is a table tennis club that is already in its fourth year'}, {'start': '1158.240', 'end': '1163.360', 'text': 'this is growing with young people from the Cagua area they also accept older adults who go'}, {'start': '1163.360', 'end': '1169.240', 'text': 'and practice but it is having an impact last year we did a summer camp eh and this'}, {'start': '1169.240', 'end': '1175.040', 'text': 'year we are going to repeat it we are thinking of creating at some point in the next few years yes no months, uh,'}, {'start': '1175.040', 'end': '1180.480', 'text': "a club for youth, right, right, studying what it's like to join the youth, what it's like to give"}, {'start': '1180.480', 'end': '1185.080', 'text': 'a space for the youth to get to know the island, know what they do in the projects, right?'}, {'start': '1185.080', 'end': '1189.960', 'text': 'always from the perspective of activism, which is the most we have given to the conversation, how to'}, {'start': '1189.960', 'end': '1194.080', 'text': 'be a social actor, how to be a social actress to have an impact, right, why is it necessary'}, {'start': '1194.080', 'end': '1199.360', 'text': 'in this world right now, not only to entertain or what is also necessary, right, but to'}, {'start': '1199.360', 'end': '1204.640', 'text': 'raise awareness, right, that people know about the ichus that are happening in the country, I ask you,'}, {'start': '1204.640', 'end': '1208.880', 'text': 'I know that there is a lot of work and you have a lot to do every day, but you tell me'}, {'start': '1208.880', 'end': '1214.360', 'text': 'that sometimes you talk about the impact you have, really sit down and feel if'}, {'start': '1214.360', 'end': '1218.720', 'text': "this is not the case. If there was, what would be the alternative? How would these people be if they didn't have"}, {'start': '1218.720', 'end': '1224.920', 'text': 'these services? Sometimes you sit down as part of soup kitchens and say, "How nice what'}, {'start': '1224.920', 'end': '1230.440', 'text': 'we are achieving." Yes, yes, we celebrate ourselves, you didn\'t believe, we don\'t celebrate, we care a lot, maybe'}, {'start': '1230.440', 'end': '1235.640', 'text': "this but but we do celebrate, that's why we do a lot of surveys, right, and we try to listen a lot to"}, {'start': '1235.640', 'end': '1240.200', 'text': 'how people perceive us, how people receive the service to really know if we are having'}, {'start': '1240.200', 'end': '1244.680', 'text': 'an impact, and we modify what we do according to what we see in those questionnaires that'}, {'start': '1244.680', 'end': '1250.240', 'text': "we take. We really take into account listening to how the services are impacting us, and that's"}, {'start': '1250.240', 'end': '1254.480', 'text': "nice too because people appreciate that we take them into account. It's not a philosophy, isn't it,"}, {'start': '1254.480', 'end': '1260.760', 'text': 'but really yes. About a month they said that for example in the supermarket they needed'}, {'start': '1260.760', 'end': '1266.000', 'text': 'two checkouts because there was a brutal line in the morning part and well from one month to the next'}, {'start': '1266.000', 'end': '1270.760', 'text': 'we got another checkout and at the moment people say how good it is that they opened another checkout'}, {'start': '1270.760', 'end': '1275.560', 'text': 'because yes right and so at the moment it is like a project that is really very participatory'}, {'start': '1275.560', 'end': '1280.600', 'text': 'and about that it makes me very proud to know that the project is built not because we are very'}, {'start': '1280.600', 'end': '1285.800', 'text': 'good at what we do but because we are also good at integrating and knowing and listening which'}, {'start': '1285.800', 'end': '1290.520', 'text': 'is very important I also ask you about If they are celebrated because with all the things that are'}, {'start': '1290.520', 'end': '1295.640', 'text': 'happening and not only that, someone like you who I want to talk about your personal story that you have been in a'}, {'start': '1295.640', 'end': '1303.040', 'text': 'struggle for many years see that some things do not change that others get worse and that change the'}, {'start': '1303.040', 'end': '1309.440', 'text': 'resistance and the things that you want to do for the community are sometimes so difficult I ask you'}, {'start': '1309.440', 'end': '1318.920', 'text': "if sometimes I don't know if you lose hope if you lose drive because you see that these community spaces"}, {'start': '1318.920', 'end': '1324.400', 'text': 'are very beautiful and are doing beautiful things but those who have the power'}, {'start': '1324.400', 'end': '1332.280', 'text': 'are not necessarily aligned with those missions tell me first about getting into that Tell me about your experience first'}, {'start': '1332.280', 'end': '1338.960', 'text': 'in the strikes since you were at the UPR, the University of Puerto Rico, what was your struggle like at'}, {'start': '1338.960', 'end': '1345.520', 'text': 'that time? What were you resisting as part of the students who participated in that strike and'}, {'start': '1345.520', 'end': '1351.320', 'text': 'how that connects with what we are experiencing today. Look, there was a little while, I have been an'}, {'start': '1351.320', 'end': '1356.240', 'text': 'activist for a little while, right, since I entered the university around the year 2000, but I am best known for my'}, {'start': '1356.240', 'end': '1361.440', 'text': 'participation in the 2010 student strike at the University of Puerto Rico, particularly'}, {'start': '1361.440', 'end': '1368.400', 'text': 'when I was a student at the Rí Piedra campus. Uh, the projection that we made, right, about'}, {'start': '1368.400', 'end': '1375.440', 'text': 'the future is basically what we are seeing now, right, the Fortuño government, right, laid'}, {'start': '1375.440', 'end': '1379.680', 'text': 'the foundations for many of the things that the next governors and now these governors'}, {'start': '1379.680', 'end': '1385.800', 'text': 'are giving continuity to, right, this handing over the country to foreigners, uh, the approval of'}, {'start': '1385.800', 'end': '1391.240', 'text': 'laws, the university is basically in the same situation that we denounced'}, {'start': '1391.240', 'end': '1398.080', 'text': 'this 15 years ago, right, closure of programs with a smaller budget, right, that was the prediction,'}, {'start': '1398.080', 'end': '1402.560', 'text': 'right? If now they remove this budget, they modify the formula that was what they did'}, {'start': '1402.560', 'end': '1407.560', 'text': 'in 2010, right, change the formula by which the university was financed, what is going to come are'}, {'start': '1407.560', 'end': '1412.280', 'text': 'budget reductions, that we had said at that time and then the situation is'}, {'start': '1412.280', 'end': '1422.040', 'text': 'the one that had been said, but if you think about it, right, the struggle'}, {'start': '1422.040', 'end': '1427.000', 'text': 'also has its progress, right, right, when I started being an activist in the early 2000s,'}, {'start': '1427.000', 'end': '1432.360', 'text': 'activism was very precarious. bigger than what I feel that the activism that we'}, {'start': '1432.360', 'end': '1437.480', 'text': 'try to practice now is precarious in terms of resources there were no photocopiers'}, {'start': '1437.480', 'end': '1442.800', 'text': "to make a bulletin and distribute it, the media were not what we have now, didn't"}, {'start': '1442.800', 'end': '1448.080', 'text': 'you have to work hard to carry a message? There was no way to communicate that message if it was'}, {'start': '1448.080', 'end': '1452.720', 'text': 'through the traditional press, which has never been very favorable to the movements, so'}, {'start': '1452.720', 'end': '1457.800', 'text': 'there were like other means of communication and another way of building the struggle. I feel that now we have'}, {'start': '1457.800', 'end': '1463.640', 'text': "some advantages, right, and some capabilities that we didn't have 10 or 15 years ago, and in that sense,"}, {'start': '1463.640', 'end': '1470.640', 'text': "if you know, it's articulating what we do. For me, The correct way to think about this is as a"}, {'start': '1470.640', 'end': '1476.440', 'text': 'long-term struggle as it is not a short-term struggle, it is a long-term struggle because seen in the'}, {'start': '1476.440', 'end': '1483.000', 'text': 'long term we have a greater capacity to grow as struggles as a movement to really'}, {'start': '1483.000', 'end': '1488.440', 'text': "be popular organizations, right? I don't know about the small left-wing organizations that we talk"}, {'start': '1488.440', 'end': '1492.760', 'text': 'to each other or that we have very clear, very solid messages that are very valid and very correct if'}, {'start': '1492.760', 'end': '1498.240', 'text': "we come to see it against history but if people don't understand it if people don't assume it if"}, {'start': '1498.240', 'end': '1503.440', 'text': "popular struggles don't become true that involve a lot of people because it is useless to have"}, {'start': '1503.440', 'end': '1508.760', 'text': 'a lot of correction in the ideas, one becomes a good analyst but not a good activist, right and'}, {'start': '1508.760', 'end': '1514.440', 'text': 'part of the transformation that I and many other people who have been activists for'}, {'start': '1514.440', 'end': '1519.600', 'text': '20 years began to give them how do we make all these ideas and these ideas that are going to advance'}, {'start': '1519.600', 'end': '1525.000', 'text': 'a better future for Puerto Rico because they reach the people and that implied a transformation in my'}, {'start': '1525.000', 'end': '1530.280', 'text': 'active because of different alternatives of how to organize the people, right because ultimately'}, {'start': '1530.280', 'end': '1534.960', 'text': 'our project is a project to organize the people to service and to help'}, {'start': '1534.960', 'end': '1540.440', 'text': 'with very specific issues such as food, health and well-being, but if you take off all your clothes,'}, {'start': '1540.440', 'end': '1546.000', 'text': 'this is a project to organize people so that we become aware of the country that we need and'}, {'start': '1546.000', 'end': '1550.800', 'text': 'so that we join that process, whether it is the fight that the people want, right, we work'}, {'start': '1550.800', 'end': '1557.120', 'text': 'with food as the main agent of change, but consciousness is consciousness, right, and'}, {'start': '1557.120', 'end': '1562.920', 'text': 'action is action. Tell me about that transformation because it is a function of resistance and activism'}, {'start': '1562.920', 'end': '1567.920', 'text': 'and I see that present in what they do today, but it is different to be in the gates of the'}, {'start': '1567.920', 'end': '1574.760', 'text': 'UPI perhaps confronting the police at that moment versus the work that you do now every day'}, {'start': '1574.760', 'end': '1580.640', 'text': 'with the other people in soup kitchens which is literally preparing the meals uh preparing'}, {'start': '1580.640', 'end': '1586.280', 'text': 'the space for the massages and the table tennis games tell me about how that'}, {'start': '1586.280', 'end': '1590.480', 'text': 'transformation happened perhaps a little on a personal level look this is the fight we are fighting today'}, {'start': '1590.480', 'end': '1595.640', 'text': 'but wait this is what is needed yes yes basically after the strike I sometimes'}, {'start': '1595.640', 'end': '1601.840', 'text': "explain it like this it's like after having been in that movement that spent a full year"}, {'start': '1601.840', 'end': '1607.360', 'text': 'of struggle and confrontation, I felt that this was the highest point of the traditional activism that'}, {'start': '1607.360', 'end': '1612.720', 'text': 'I did, right about that activism that confronts the government for something that the government wants to do'}, {'start': '1612.720', 'end': '1617.760', 'text': "but that does not have, let's say, its own agenda even if we had one because we have always had it"}, {'start': '1617.760', 'end': '1622.040', 'text': ', right, the student movements have always had a vision of what the university should be like'}, {'start': '1622.040', 'end': '1627.040', 'text': 'and there are proposals, right, of greed but one ends up reacting to what the powers do'}, {'start': '1627.040', 'end': '1633.840', 'text': 'and one ends up basically behind the agenda of the powerful, huh? After the strike,'}, {'start': '1633.840', 'end': '1640.840', 'text': 'I was not happy with the activism I was doing, and I began to flirt with other ideas.'}, {'start': '1640.840', 'end': '1646.160', 'text': 'Right, how can we keep fighting in resistance in a period that changed? Right,'}, {'start': '1646.160', 'end': '1651.400', 'text': 'this Fortuunño managed to do a lot of things. Then the public debt then came to the'}, {'start': '1651.400', 'end': '1656.680', 'text': 'Fiscal Control Board. At the moment, it was a political period that did not predict that things would improve.'}, {'start': '1656.680', 'end': '1660.440', 'text': 'However, we wanted to continue building struggles and building'}, {'start': '1660.440', 'end': '1665.760', 'text': 'mobilizations, so the thought went to us: how can we convert all of this in projects'}, {'start': '1665.760', 'end': '1673.200', 'text': 'that are relevant to the people, the activism that I did was relevant to the students'}, {'start': '1673.200', 'end': '1680.920', 'text': 'at that particular moment and I celebrate it and I will soon talk more about that in this on certain things'}, {'start': '1680.920', 'end': '1687.920', 'text': 'but uh we had the weakness that we were not organized as part of the people, right we had'}, {'start': '1687.920', 'end': '1693.920', 'text': 'contact we had relationships we went to communities and part of that process began in the same strike,'}, {'start': '1693.920', 'end': '1698.360', 'text': 'right a lot of us activists who began to visit communities and learn about other'}, {'start': '1698.360', 'end': '1704.520', 'text': 'traditions of struggle this so long story short well eh 2 years later I started the'}, {'start': '1704.520', 'end': '1710.160', 'text': 'soup kitchen project already in 2013 looking for that looking for how to connect issues that are relevant'}, {'start': '1710.160', 'end': '1715.680', 'text': 'for people such as food, health, well-being to the processes of what society is like'}, {'start': '1715.680', 'end': '1721.440', 'text': 'and what is the future that we have and what actions we have to do and that is true'}, {'start': '1721.440', 'end': '1726.160', 'text': 'for not making you all History led us to modify what we did and to become'}, {'start': '1726.160', 'end': '1731.080', 'text': 'an organization like soup kitchens. Today one thing that seemed super interesting to me when'}, {'start': '1731.080', 'end': '1737.560', 'text': 'I interviewed them for that report I did is how that strike occurred at the time when the'}, {'start': '1737.560', 'end': '1743.800', 'text': 'governor was Luis Fortuño in that administration is that Law 22 was then approved, which at that'}, {'start': '1743.800', 'end': '1748.800', 'text': 'time there were many people who stood up because they said "Look, this is going to lead to this result." Years'}, {'start': '1748.800', 'end': '1754.000', 'text': 'later you find yourself in this situation where the corporation that buys the building is'}, {'start': '1754.000', 'end': '1759.680', 'text': 'a corporation where its members benefit from that law 22, that is, that hoarding that'}, {'start': '1759.680', 'end': '1766.000', 'text': 'was foreseen occurred and basically you were dealing with the consequences of those laws of'}, {'start': '1766.000', 'end': '1770.960', 'text': 'that public policy of that vision that you were opposing at that time, so it is quite'}, {'start': '1770.960', 'end': '1777.640', 'text': 'crazy to see during those 15 years how those effects of those decisions that were made are taking place'}, {'start': '1777.640', 'end': '1782.800', 'text': 'but I wanted to ask you when you talk about the struggle that is being transformed What gives me'}, {'start': '1782.800', 'end': '1787.560', 'text': 'a lot of hope about Puerto Rico is seeing these groups as social comforters and I ask you'}, {'start': '1787.560', 'end': '1794.440', 'text': 'if you are seeing that this is spreading, that it is happening more than that there are people who, also in the face of'}, {'start': '1794.440', 'end': '1799.920', 'text': 'that hopelessness, look, we were hoping that perhaps things would improve and if it does not happen at the'}, {'start': '1799.920', 'end': '1805.760', 'text': 'government level, then we are going to do it. You are seeing that those movements are being replicated'}, {'start': '1805.760', 'end': '1811.680', 'text': 'and those efforts are being replicated in other places, yes, without a doubt, this is why I was saying right now that the thing'}, {'start': '1811.680', 'end': '1817.560', 'text': 'must be seen as long-term and, above all, studied. what are the trends, right,'}, {'start': '1817.560', 'end': '1822.840', 'text': 'what Fortuño approved at the time because he predicted a future and the trend has been clear that this'}, {'start': '1822.840', 'end': '1828.440', 'text': 'is happening on the contrary for us also this trend is that there are more and'}, {'start': '1828.440', 'end': '1835.040', 'text': 'more people looking for lifestyles of living better, right the pandemic had a very'}, {'start': '1835.040', 'end': '1839.040', 'text': 'powerful effect on us in a negative sense but also a positive sense that we are facing'}, {'start': '1839.040', 'end': '1844.040', 'text': 'a crisis so big that we ask ourselves what is life what is health what is happiness eh'}, {'start': '1844.040', 'end': '1849.320', 'text': 'and all those topics were somehow not so present in the lives of the people at least'}, {'start': '1849.320', 'end': '1853.440', 'text': 'not with the power and the call that a global pandemic brought to the people then as a'}, {'start': '1853.440', 'end': '1860.360', 'text': 'context and it is that if we operate well, right we see it as a long-term fight and we are able'}, {'start': '1860.360', 'end': '1865.720', 'text': 'to really build ourselves with the people that is the issue here for me important is how we build'}, {'start': '1865.720', 'end': '1870.560', 'text': 'this as a predominant social trend in the population that young people are speaking'}, {'start': '1870.560', 'end': '1875.160', 'text': "in the language that is spoken from this side of the alternative right let's talk about solidarity"}, {'start': '1875.160', 'end': '1879.760', 'text': 'we talk about mutual support that people talk about other relationships that are not transactional'}, {'start': '1879.760', 'end': '1884.800', 'text': 'through money, if we achieve that in the next 10, 15, maybe 20 years, well, we'}, {'start': '1884.800', 'end': '1890.640', 'text': 'are going to have a different social trend in the next few years, it is not a short-term path,'}, {'start': '1890.640', 'end': '1896.200', 'text': "right, isn't it, it isn't difficult sometimes to convince people of what one is seeing, right?"}, {'start': '1896.760', 'end': '1900.520', 'text': "I'm talking about many years in the future, many times the people who come to our center"}, {'start': '1900.520', 'end': '1904.400', 'text': "are older people and they tell me like this, I don't have that much time Giovanni, I don't have that much time"}, {'start': '1904.400', 'end': '1909.160', 'text': "to wait, you say that because you're younger, right? But that's life, right? I can't"}, {'start': '1909.160', 'end': '1913.880', 'text': "think in the short term because I think that's one of the mistakes that those of us"}, {'start': '1913.880', 'end': '1918.880', 'text': 'who have been involved in activism have made, always thinking that we can resolve the issue in a short time in'}, {'start': '1918.880', 'end': '1924.320', 'text': 'this fight in this fight in this strike. Right, if we think about it more in the long term, maybe we can'}, {'start': '1924.320', 'end': '1929.200', 'text': "be better strategists, which is what I aspire to than the organization I'm in and my effort."}, {'start': '1929.200', 'end': '1934.120', 'text': 'and everything we are doing is a strategic effort to change reality in some'}, {'start': '1934.120', 'end': '1939.280', 'text': 'solid way but really that changes it. Not only that we go to bed every day with the'}, {'start': '1939.280', 'end': '1943.280', 'text': 'exhausted feeling that I am doing everything possible because that sometimes becomes'}, {'start': '1943.280', 'end': '1948.320', 'text': 'a complacency for one as an activist and I do not want to be there, right? I want to be in the'}, {'start': '1948.320', 'end': '1952.440', 'text': 'vision on the chip that this is changing because I am reading because I am seeing the'}, {'start': '1952.440', 'end': '1957.920', 'text': 'trends and I feel that energy when I do this work I have seen it happen since'}, {'start': '1957.920', 'end': '1962.680', 'text': 'the mutual support centers began in the In 2017 there are more projects, we are contacted by people who'}, {'start': '1962.680', 'end': '1967.400', 'text': 'want to do the same thing who want an orientation who want to talk about the center model who want'}, {'start': '1967.400', 'end': '1971.680', 'text': 'to talk about the supermarket model so they are things that one does not publish on social networks that'}, {'start': '1971.680', 'end': '1976.360', 'text': 'are not going to come out perhaps because they are conversations that are being had but when I start to see that'}, {'start': '1976.360', 'end': '1980.840', 'text': 'there are many people there who understand that they get the idea of \u200b\u200bwhat we are doing that they want'}, {'start': '1980.840', 'end': '1985.720', 'text': 'to replicate it because I have that hope and that faith that this is going to become a'}, {'start': '1985.720', 'end': '1990.760', 'text': 'social trend and it is going to compete with the powers that be. in which one dominates over society if people'}, {'start': '1990.760', 'end': '1995.400', 'text': 'continue to think that profit is what every human relationship has to measure or if, on the contrary,'}, {'start': '1995.400', 'end': '2000.240', 'text': 'we are becoming convinced that there is no other here, there is. You have to be supportive, you have to do'}, {'start': '2000.240', 'end': '2004.600', 'text': 'community projects, you have to plant, right, you have to do other things, which is how I see it, people'}, {'start': '2004.600', 'end': '2010.480', 'text': 'who want to replicate those efforts and what you have built, how would you summarize'}, {'start': '2010.480', 'end': '2016.840', 'text': 'where to start, well, listening to, listening to this, if you are in a residential community, right,'}, {'start': '2016.840', 'end': '2023.000', 'text': 'are you asking the community what are the things it needs, what are they? the social dynamics'}, {'start': '2023.000', 'end': '2029.560', 'text': 'that they would most like to join eh is not not assuming right what sometimes'}, {'start': '2029.560', 'end': '2034.520', 'text': 'I think that the mistake that I have made and that many of us make is to assume that because we have'}, {'start': '2034.520', 'end': '2039.560', 'text': 'information that is what people also know and that is what people also'}, {'start': '2039.560', 'end': '2044.960', 'text': 'sometimes want to ask in the best vehicle to confirm or correct what one is thinking'}, {'start': '2044.960', 'end': '2049.680', 'text': 'so that is how we are going to ask right we are going to see what is happening eh the second thing'}, {'start': '2049.680', 'end': '2052.960', 'text': 'is to identify a space right we have talked about the location we have talked about the importance of a'}, {'start': '2052.960', 'end': '2057.880', 'text': 'place eh the places that I have been visiting all ask themselves the same thing that I want to do'}, {'start': '2057.880', 'end': '2063.520', 'text': 'something I have no where right so many of the questions are about the rescue how to rescue'}, {'start': '2063.520', 'end': '2068.360', 'text': 'a school and there are other organizations that are also working on that including the CRH which since'}, {'start': '2068.360', 'end': '2074.080', 'text': 'I already mentioned before so to have a place eh maybe at the beginning there is not one right'}, {'start': '2074.080', 'end': '2079.000', 'text': 'but to have the vision that a place is necessary to identify an empty school those are the'}, {'start': '2079.000', 'end': '2085.880', 'text': "best spaces are the public spaces eh because they are let's say let's say that it is a"}, {'start': '2085.880', 'end': '2090.160', 'text': 'fight that one can find the government so that this space remains public because what'}, {'start': '2090.160', 'end': '2094.040', 'text': 'we do even though we are a non-purpose entity that is classified as a'}, {'start': '2094.040', 'end': '2098.240', 'text': 'private entity but we are rescuing a space that was in the private world and'}, {'start': '2098.240', 'end': '2102.160', 'text': 'we are converting it into a public space again, right, and in that sense it is like a'}, {'start': '2102.160', 'end': '2107.440', 'text': 'perspective that it is important to identify some school eh and then start doing it and'}, {'start': '2107.440', 'end': '2114.680', 'text': 'make mistakes, right, I think it is important eh, we are going to make mistakes, right, not to be afraid'}, {'start': '2114.680', 'end': '2121.800', 'text': 'of making mistakes, of not doing things well, of failing, right? Having your eye and ear focused'}, {'start': '2121.800', 'end': '2127.480', 'text': 'on continuing to listen and correct is the best way. This is, at least for me, the people who'}, {'start': '2127.480', 'end': '2131.400', 'text': 'want to support Comedos Sociales and the Mutual Support Center. How can they do it? Well, look'}, {'start': '2131.400', 'end': '2138.280', 'text': ', we have a website in the name of Comedos Socialespr.org or you can call us at'}, {'start': '2138.280', 'end': '2147.200', 'text': '7873297479. Hey, there is also all the information there. You can ask us. You can consult us.'}, {'start': '2147.200', 'end': '2151.760', 'text': 'Hey, on our website, you can also find ways on how'}, {'start': '2151.760', 'end': '2157.600', 'text': 'to support. donations join yes yes there is all the information there is a little tab to contribute'}, {'start': '2157.600', 'end': '2161.880', 'text': 'there is all the information if someone is ready to donate they can go to TH mobile'}, {'start': '2161.880', 'end': '2166.680', 'text': 'and click on the donate button then look for the name of the organization Comedores Sociales de Puerto Rico and'}, {'start': '2166.680', 'end': '2170.920', 'text': 'There we appear to donate, what is the most thing that you need right now to continue'}, {'start': '2170.920', 'end': '2176.400', 'text': 'the mission, well, look at financial support, eh, how is this whole situation that we know, right,'}, {'start': '2176.400', 'end': '2182.120', 'text': 'eh, the economic forecast is that many of the donations and the sources of recurring financing'}, {'start': '2182.120', 'end': '2188.280', 'text': 'that we have are not or are not going to continue or are not going to grow, eh, however, the needs, food'}, {'start': '2188.280', 'end': '2193.640', 'text': 'is becoming more and more expensive, yes, basically a lot of my work and the work of a part'}, {'start': '2193.640', 'end': '2198.000', 'text': 'of the organization right now is to identify donors, identify donors, individuals'}, {'start': '2198.000', 'end': '2203.480', 'text': 'who want to make a contribution from $ to month $10 a month trying to increase'}, {'start': '2203.480', 'end': '2208.720', 'text': 'these sources of financing so as not to depend on private foundations because the world is'}, {'start': '2208.720', 'end': '2213.000', 'text': "getting a little more complicated and we really don't want to reach a decision in"}, {'start': '2213.000', 'end': '2217.160', 'text': 'a year or two of having to close a program or have to significantly reduce what'}, {'start': '2217.160', 'end': '2222.680', 'text': "we do or even let people go that we can't continue employing. I'm a"}, {'start': '2222.680', 'end': '2227.200', 'text': "little worried but I'm quite busy working on the part that is raising popular financing"}, {'start': '2227.200', 'end': '2232.280', 'text': 'in which people support what we do every time through whatever income they can. be'}, {'start': '2232.280', 'end': '2237.320', 'text': 'recurring, they are the most important, so we are going to put the link there so that you can support'}, {'start': '2237.320', 'end': '2242.560', 'text': 'social eaters. For my part, I thank you very much for the service you provide in that community. Thank you'}, {'start': '2242.560', 'end': '2246.080', 'text': 'for being here for this conversation. Yes, thanks to you, beautiful family.'}]