Menendez motion to dismiss D.A. shows desparation: Nathan Hochman | Elizabeth Vargas Reports
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[{'start': '0.640', 'end': '5.440', 'text': 'District Attorney Nathan Hawkman has'}, {'start': '2.560', 'end': '7.440', 'text': 'denied any bias against the Menendez'}, {'start': '5.440', 'end': '9.679', 'text': 'brothers or their family and says he has'}, {'start': '7.440', 'end': '12.559', 'text': 'actually spent more time with them than'}, {'start': '9.679', 'end': '14.799', 'text': 'any DA has in the past three decades.'}, {'start': '12.559', 'end': '17.039', 'text': 'Nathan Hawkman joins us now. Uh, thanks'}, {'start': '14.799', 'end': '18.960', 'text': 'for being here. I know this motion to'}, {'start': '17.039', 'end': '20.640', 'text': "have you kicked off the case wasn't a"}, {'start': '18.960', 'end': '22.800', 'text': "surprise, but what's your reaction to it"}, {'start': '20.640', 'end': '25.359', 'text': 'nonetheless?'}, {'start': '22.800', 'end': '26.880', 'text': "So, here's our reaction. you know, the"}, {'start': '25.359', 'end': '29.840', 'text': 'district attorney, the current district'}, {'start': '26.880', 'end': '32.399', 'text': "attorney's position is that it's as far"}, {'start': '29.840', 'end': '35.440', 'text': 'as re-sentencing goes, the question is'}, {'start': '32.399', 'end': '36.800', 'text': 'not no, but not yet. In other words,'}, {'start': '35.440', 'end': '39.280', 'text': "we're not saying that the Menendez"}, {'start': '36.800', 'end': '41.360', 'text': 'brothers could never qualify for'}, {'start': '39.280', 'end': '43.440', 'text': "resentencing. It's just at this point"}, {'start': '41.360', 'end': '45.840', 'text': 'where they have not completely accepted'}, {'start': '43.440', 'end': '47.840', 'text': 'full responsibility for their actions,'}, {'start': '45.840', 'end': '50.800', 'text': 'their coverups, their deceased, their'}, {'start': '47.840', 'end': '53.079', 'text': 'lies, their their self-defense defense'}, {'start': '50.800', 'end': '55.440', 'text': 'that has been shown to be factually'}, {'start': '53.079', 'end': '57.760', 'text': 'impossible at the time of trial. The'}, {'start': '55.440', 'end': '59.760', 'text': 'fact that they persisted in that lie in'}, {'start': '57.760', 'end': '62.239', 'text': 'the lie that their father violently'}, {'start': '59.760', 'end': '64.320', 'text': "raped one of Lyall Menendez's"}, {'start': '62.239', 'end': '66.000', 'text': 'girlfriends. The fact that they lied'}, {'start': '64.320', 'end': '68.799', 'text': 'about their mother trying to poison'}, {'start': '66.000', 'end': '71.280', 'text': 'them. All these lies came out at trial.'}, {'start': '68.799', 'end': '73.600', 'text': 'Many of them were actually testified to'}, {'start': '71.280', 'end': '76.240', 'text': 'and at no point in the last 30 years'}, {'start': '73.600', 'end': '78.400', 'text': 'have they said that look we we basically'}, {'start': '76.240', 'end': '80.720', 'text': "have lied. We've engaged in misconduct"}, {'start': '78.400', 'end': '82.400', 'text': "and we're ready for resentencing. So if"}, {'start': '80.720', 'end': '84.960', 'text': 'the Menendez so with respect to the'}, {'start': '82.400', 'end': '87.680', 'text': 'Menendez family I met with them for over'}, {'start': '84.960', 'end': '89.520', 'text': "three hours. I'm the first DA ever to"}, {'start': '87.680', 'end': '91.840', 'text': 'personally meet with them for over at'}, {'start': '89.520', 'end': '93.520', 'text': 'any time much less three hours. And I'}, {'start': '91.840', 'end': '95.520', 'text': 'listened to all that they had to say.'}, {'start': '93.520', 'end': '97.439', 'text': 'They were very passionate. They wanted'}, {'start': '95.520', 'end': '99.520', 'text': 'the Menendez brothers out. and I'}, {'start': '97.439', 'end': '101.040', 'text': 'received that message loud and clear.'}, {'start': '99.520', 'end': '103.280', 'text': 'But then I looked at all the facts in'}, {'start': '101.040', 'end': '105.360', 'text': 'the law, which is my duty. I basically'}, {'start': '103.280', 'end': '108.000', 'text': 'looked at tens of thousands of pages of'}, {'start': '105.360', 'end': '110.079', 'text': 'transcripts, hundreds of hours of video,'}, {'start': '108.000', 'end': '111.920', 'text': 'all the legal argument. I spoke to'}, {'start': '110.079', 'end': '114.799', 'text': 'prosecutors, defense council, and'}, {'start': '111.920', 'end': '116.960', 'text': 'whatnot, and took a position that is not'}, {'start': '114.799', 'end': '118.560', 'text': 'yet for resentencing, which is the'}, {'start': '116.960', 'end': '121.280', 'text': 'opposite of where the Menendez family'}, {'start': '118.560', 'end': '123.200', 'text': 'wants me to end up. So instead of going'}, {'start': '121.280', 'end': '126.159', 'text': 'to the judge and and explain to the'}, {'start': '123.200', 'end': '128.479', 'text': 'judge why the facts and the law are'}, {'start': '126.159', 'end': '130.319', 'text': 'different the way they think they think'}, {'start': '128.479', 'end': '132.560', 'text': 'the the facts and the law justify'}, {'start': '130.319', 'end': '135.200', 'text': "re-sentencing. They've decided to attack"}, {'start': '132.560', 'end': '137.120', 'text': "me personally. And again, there's an old"}, {'start': '135.200', 'end': '138.959', 'text': "there's an old saying, Elizabeth, that"}, {'start': '137.120', 'end': '141.200', 'text': "if you can't pound the facts, pound the"}, {'start': '138.959', 'end': '143.200', 'text': "law. And if you can't pound the law,"}, {'start': '141.200', 'end': '144.840', 'text': "pound the facts. And if you can't pound"}, {'start': '143.200', 'end': '147.360', 'text': 'the facts and the law, pound the'}, {'start': '144.840', 'end': '149.680', 'text': 'prosecutor. And that is basically a a'}, {'start': '147.360', 'end': '151.520', 'text': 'the where the defense council is at.'}, {'start': '149.680', 'end': '153.680', 'text': "It's a desperate move to get away from"}, {'start': '151.520', 'end': '155.599', 'text': 'the facts in the law of reentencing and'}, {'start': '153.680', 'end': '158.080', 'text': 'just attack me in a meritless and'}, {'start': '155.599', 'end': '160.080', 'text': 'baseless way. Tamara Goodell said'}, {'start': '158.080', 'end': '162.239', 'text': 'because I raised the point with her that'}, {'start': '160.080', 'end': '164.239', 'text': 'you have asked that the brothers'}, {'start': '162.239', 'end': '167.920', 'text': 'publicly apologize for the lies that'}, {'start': '164.239', 'end': '170.400', 'text': 'they told uh during those trials uh and'}, {'start': '167.920', 'end': '173.760', 'text': 'and in the the months and years leading'}, {'start': '170.400', 'end': '176.000', 'text': "up to those two trials. She said they've"}, {'start': '173.760', 'end': '179.680', 'text': "come clean with us privately. They've"}, {'start': '176.000', 'end': '181.920', 'text': 'apologized privately. Um, is that'}, {'start': '179.680', 'end': '184.560', 'text': 'enough? I mean, you you want them to do'}, {'start': '181.920', 'end': '187.360', 'text': 'this publicly. Saying, "I\'m sorry, I'}, {'start': '184.560', 'end': '190.239', 'text': 'lied." is not enough privately.'}, {'start': '187.360', 'end': '192.720', 'text': 'See, the standard for rehabilitation is'}, {'start': '190.239', 'end': '195.120', 'text': 'one of the factors for rehabilitation is'}, {'start': '192.720', 'end': '197.519', 'text': 'some has someone shown complete insight'}, {'start': '195.120', 'end': '200.159', 'text': 'into their actions. In fact, it was the'}, {'start': '197.519', 'end': '202.879', 'text': 'main reason why Governor Gavin Newsome'}, {'start': '200.159', 'end': '204.879', 'text': 'denied parole to Sir Han Sirhan, the'}, {'start': '202.879', 'end': '206.560', 'text': 'killer of Robert F. Kennedy because'}, {'start': '204.879', 'end': '209.120', 'text': 'notwithstanding the fact that he had a'}, {'start': '206.560', 'end': '211.360', 'text': 'lot of pro parole factors in his favor,'}, {'start': '209.120', 'end': '214.159', 'text': 'the governor said he had not shown full'}, {'start': '211.360', 'end': '216.319', 'text': 'insight into his actions and do it in a'}, {'start': '214.159', 'end': '219.200', 'text': 'public way. So if the Menendez brothers'}, {'start': '216.319', 'end': '221.440', 'text': 'have no issue privately accepting full'}, {'start': '219.200', 'end': '223.440', 'text': 'and complete responsibility for all the'}, {'start': '221.440', 'end': '225.840', 'text': "lies that they've told, they certainly"}, {'start': '223.440', 'end': '228.080', 'text': 'can do it publicly so that they so that'}, {'start': '225.840', 'end': '230.239', 'text': 'both the judge in this case will make'}, {'start': '228.080', 'end': '232.239', 'text': "the final decision can see that they've"}, {'start': '230.239', 'end': '234.959', 'text': 'unequivocally and sincerely come to'}, {'start': '232.239', 'end': '236.799', 'text': 'grips and come clean with all these lies'}, {'start': '234.959', 'end': '239.040', 'text': 'and now are in a position to be re'}, {'start': '236.799', 'end': '241.519', 'text': 'resentenced. the the family says that if'}, {'start': '239.040', 'end': '244.239', 'text': "the judge doesn't disqualify you that"}, {'start': '241.519', 'end': '246.159', 'text': "they'll still go on and then uh their"}, {'start': '244.239', 'end': '248.480', 'text': 'attorney Mark Garagos will seek a'}, {'start': '246.159', 'end': '250.959', 'text': 'hearing trying to show what he calls a'}, {'start': '248.480', 'end': '254.200', 'text': 'conflict of interest. Um they say you'}, {'start': '250.959', 'end': '257.280', 'text': 'attended a rally where people were'}, {'start': '254.200', 'end': '259.600', 'text': 'anti-release of the Menendez brothers.'}, {'start': '257.280', 'end': '262.079', 'text': 'Um but if there is this hearing about a'}, {'start': '259.600', 'end': '265.040', 'text': 'conflict of interest, will you be called'}, {'start': '262.079', 'end': '266.960', 'text': "to testify in that? I don't know about"}, {'start': '265.040', 'end': '268.720', 'text': "whether or not I'd be called to testify,"}, {'start': '266.960', 'end': '271.680', 'text': 'but let me for a moment deal with one of'}, {'start': '268.720', 'end': '274.639', 'text': 'these facts. The rally that I attended'}, {'start': '271.680', 'end': '277.360', 'text': 'was a rally held by a group called'}, {'start': '274.639', 'end': '280.080', 'text': 'Justice for Murdered Children. It was a'}, {'start': '277.360', 'end': '282.160', 'text': 'rally of parents who have suffered uh'}, {'start': '280.080', 'end': '284.080', 'text': "sons and daughters who've been mur Thank"}, {'start': '282.160', 'end': '286.080', 'text': 'you for watching. Subscribe below and'}, {'start': '284.080', 'end': '288.759', 'text': 'download our NewsNation app right now on'}, {'start': '286.080', 'end': '293.880', 'text': 'your phone and you will get fact-based,'}, {'start': '288.759', 'end': '293.880', 'text': 'unbiased news for all Americans.'}]