'Not MAGA enough': Laura Loomer's influence on Trump national security shakeup
MSNBC
[{'start': '0.240', 'end': '3.679', 'text': "Good evening from New York. I'm Chris"}, {'start': '1.600', 'end': '5.359', 'text': 'Hayes. After more than a 100 days of'}, {'start': '3.679', 'end': '8.480', 'text': 'national security chaos and of course'}, {'start': '5.359', 'end': '10.440', 'text': 'the signal scandal, Michael Waltz is out'}, {'start': '8.480', 'end': '12.480', 'text': "as Donald Trump's national security"}, {'start': '10.440', 'end': '14.480', 'text': "adviser. That's the headline. Although"}, {'start': '12.480', 'end': '17.279', 'text': 'it hardly does justice to how this all'}, {'start': '14.480', 'end': '19.199', 'text': 'unfolded today. It started this morning'}, {'start': '17.279', 'end': '22.000', 'text': 'with reports that Waltz and his deputy'}, {'start': '19.199', 'end': '23.600', 'text': 'senior Alex Wong were soon to be removed'}, {'start': '22.000', 'end': '25.519', 'text': 'from their jobs, fired. Basically,'}, {'start': '23.600', 'end': '27.279', 'text': 'people familiar with the situation told'}, {'start': '25.519', 'end': '30.160', 'text': 'the New York Times that this was in fact'}, {'start': '27.279', 'end': '32.640', 'text': 'an ouster by Trump. But then this'}, {'start': '30.160', 'end': '35.960', 'text': 'afternoon, Trump spun the ouster into'}, {'start': '32.640', 'end': '35.960', 'text': 'something else.'}, {'start': '36.960', 'end': '40.960', 'text': 'Well, I I I think you got to put this'}, {'start': '38.800', 'end': '42.719', 'text': 'under the heading of vintage Trump'}, {'start': '40.960', 'end': '44.399', 'text': 'because a few hours ago, we heard that'}, {'start': '42.719', 'end': '46.640', 'text': 'Mike Waltz, the national security'}, {'start': '44.399', 'end': '49.520', 'text': 'adviser, was being shown the door, but'}, {'start': '46.640', 'end': '51.200', 'text': 'he as he went out one one door, he went'}, {'start': '49.520', 'end': '53.760', 'text': 'in another one, and that was the'}, {'start': '51.200', 'end': '55.600', 'text': 'nomination to be the UN ambassador. Uh'}, {'start': '53.760', 'end': '57.680', 'text': "here's what Donald Trump said uh in a"}, {'start': '55.600', 'end': '58.960', 'text': 'truth social posting. said, "I\'m pleased'}, {'start': '57.680', 'end': '60.640', 'text': 'to announce that I will be nominating'}, {'start': '58.960', 'end': '62.640', 'text': 'Mike Waltz to be the next United States'}, {'start': '60.640', 'end': '64.799', 'text': 'Ambassador to the United Nations." In'}, {'start': '62.640', 'end': '66.560', 'text': 'the interim, Secretary of State Marco'}, {'start': '64.799', 'end': '68.560', 'text': 'Rubio will serve as National Security'}, {'start': '66.560', 'end': '71.119', 'text': 'Adviser while continuing his strong'}, {'start': '68.560', 'end': '74.400', 'text': 'leadership at the State Department,'}, {'start': '71.119', 'end': '76.320', 'text': 'Wait, what? This was an abrupt and'}, {'start': '74.400', 'end': '79.159', 'text': 'incredible shakeup that would leave'}, {'start': '76.320', 'end': '83.840', 'text': 'Marco Rubio, get this, simultaneously'}, {'start': '79.159', 'end': '85.840', 'text': 'holding at least four official full-time'}, {'start': '83.840', 'end': '88.479', 'text': 'jobs in the government. Secretary of'}, {'start': '85.840', 'end': '90.720', 'text': 'State, Acting National Security Adviser,'}, {'start': '88.479', 'end': '92.640', 'text': 'acting administrator of USAD, which of'}, {'start': '90.720', 'end': '94.640', 'text': "course they're trying to destroy, and"}, {'start': '92.640', 'end': '97.200', 'text': 'just to throw it on the pile, acting'}, {'start': '94.640', 'end': '100.920', 'text': 'head of the National Archives. And all'}, {'start': '97.200', 'end': '104.560', 'text': "of it came as news to Rubio's own"}, {'start': '100.920', 'end': '106.880', 'text': 'spokeswoman at the State Department.'}, {'start': '104.560', 'end': '108.720', 'text': 'The president has just written on Truth'}, {'start': '106.880', 'end': '111.040', 'text': 'Social that Mike Waltz is going to'}, {'start': '108.720', 'end': '113.119', 'text': 'become the new US ambassador to the'}, {'start': '111.040', 'end': '115.119', 'text': 'United Nations. Well, there you go. The'}, {'start': '113.119', 'end': '118.000', 'text': 'National Security Fab. And in addition'}, {'start': '115.119', 'end': '120.479', 'text': 'to that, he says that in the interim,'}, {'start': '118.000', 'end': '123.280', 'text': 'Secretary of State Marco Rubio will'}, {'start': '120.479', 'end': '125.040', 'text': 'serve as National Security Adviser while'}, {'start': '123.280', 'end': '127.200', 'text': 'continuing his strong leadership at the'}, {'start': '125.040', 'end': '128.959', 'text': 'State Department. Do you know how long'}, {'start': '127.200', 'end': '131.360', 'text': "Yeah. he's going to be serving in both"}, {'start': '128.959', 'end': '134.319', 'text': 'roles? It is clear that I just heard'}, {'start': '131.360', 'end': '137.520', 'text': 'this from you. I think that one thing I'}, {'start': '134.319', 'end': '140.400', 'text': "certainly that I've learned is that um"}, {'start': '137.520', 'end': '142.800', 'text': "uh things don't happen until the"}, {'start': '140.400', 'end': '144.959', 'text': "president says they're going to happen."}, {'start': '142.800', 'end': '147.360', 'text': 'Uh so the fact that that is which was'}, {'start': '144.959', 'end': '149.120', 'text': 'that obviously truth social. Yeah. So'}, {'start': '147.360', 'end': '152.239', 'text': 'that is the the miracle of modern'}, {'start': '149.120', 'end': '155.319', 'text': 'technology and and the social uh media.'}, {'start': '152.239', 'end': '158.080', 'text': 'I mean fabulous the miracle of modern'}, {'start': '155.319', 'end': '160.080', 'text': 'technology. It is I guess classic Trump'}, {'start': '158.080', 'end': '162.480', 'text': 'almost seems as if this was not a well'}, {'start': '160.080', 'end': '164.560', 'text': 'planned move but rather hear me out on'}, {'start': '162.480', 'end': '166.080', 'text': 'this a face saving measure by a'}, {'start': '164.560', 'end': '167.599', 'text': 'president who wanted to fire his'}, {'start': '166.080', 'end': '169.360', 'text': "national security adviser but didn't"}, {'start': '167.599', 'end': '171.920', 'text': 'want to be blamed for hiring the guy in'}, {'start': '169.360', 'end': '173.680', 'text': 'the first place. And make no mistake'}, {'start': '171.920', 'end': '176.160', 'text': 'about it, right? This is a demotion for'}, {'start': '173.680', 'end': '178.160', 'text': "Mike Waltz. He's out of the core of the"}, {'start': '176.160', 'end': '181.599', 'text': "security establishment. He's nominated"}, {'start': '178.160', 'end': '183.159', 'text': 'to a still open position that is kind of'}, {'start': '181.599', 'end': '185.280', 'text': 'second tier in a Republican'}, {'start': '183.159', 'end': '187.519', 'text': 'administration. In fairness to Waltz,'}, {'start': '185.280', 'end': '190.159', 'text': 'you got to say this, and tip of the cap,'}, {'start': '187.519', 'end': '192.400', 'text': "he did last longer than Trump's first"}, {'start': '190.159', 'end': '195.040', 'text': 'national security adviser back in 2017.'}, {'start': '192.400', 'end': '197.840', 'text': 'Remember that guy? Michael Flynn is the'}, {'start': '195.040', 'end': '200.000', 'text': 'name. He uh plead guilty lying to the'}, {'start': '197.840', 'end': '202.239', 'text': 'FBI about his contacts with Russia. He'}, {'start': '200.000', 'end': '204.640', 'text': 'later got a Trump pardon. Now Flynn made'}, {'start': '202.239', 'end': '206.560', 'text': 'it just 22 days and his departure'}, {'start': '204.640', 'end': '208.720', 'text': 'foreshadowed an administration that you'}, {'start': '206.560', 'end': '210.720', 'text': 'might recall was constantly churning'}, {'start': '208.720', 'end': '212.799', 'text': 'through personnel. So now here we are.'}, {'start': '210.720', 'end': '215.040', 'text': 'We have our first high-profile firing by'}, {'start': '212.799', 'end': '217.840', 'text': 'Trump in this term. There is an open'}, {'start': '215.040', 'end': '219.440', 'text': 'question of why. It is true that Waltz'}, {'start': '217.840', 'end': '221.840', 'text': 'was the one who took full responsibility'}, {'start': '219.440', 'end': '223.760', 'text': 'for Whoopsie accidentally adding a'}, {'start': '221.840', 'end': '225.760', 'text': 'journalist to that signal chat where he'}, {'start': '223.760', 'end': '228.640', 'text': 'and other officials were discussing'}, {'start': '225.760', 'end': '230.480', 'text': 'classified military operations in Yemen.'}, {'start': '228.640', 'end': '232.400', 'text': 'Even though that scandal really centered'}, {'start': '230.480', 'end': '234.159', 'text': 'on Defense Secretary Pete Hegsth and'}, {'start': '232.400', 'end': '236.879', 'text': "since then there's been an avalanche of"}, {'start': '234.159', 'end': '239.040', 'text': "stories on Hegsth's reckless"}, {'start': '236.879', 'end': '240.959', 'text': 'incompetence, his use of signal, for'}, {'start': '239.040', 'end': '242.799', 'text': 'instance, to send those same war plans'}, {'start': '240.959', 'end': '244.720', 'text': 'to another text chain that included his'}, {'start': '242.799', 'end': '248.319', 'text': 'wife, brother, and others. Uh war plans'}, {'start': '244.720', 'end': '250.640', 'text': 'that came from a classified uh source.'}, {'start': '248.319', 'end': '252.560', 'text': 'Despite Trump alternating between'}, {'start': '250.640', 'end': '255.280', 'text': 'clearly not understanding what the'}, {'start': '252.560', 'end': '257.280', 'text': 'signal app is and also denigrating it,'}, {'start': '255.280', 'end': '259.919', 'text': "it's also clear that his inner circle is"}, {'start': '257.280', 'end': '262.720', 'text': 'still using it right in front of him.'}, {'start': '259.919', 'end': '264.560', 'text': 'Here is an image of Waltz just yesterday'}, {'start': '262.720', 'end': '266.479', 'text': 'captured by a Reuters photographer. You'}, {'start': '264.560', 'end': '267.880', 'text': 'can see he is literally using signal in'}, {'start': '266.479', 'end': '270.000', 'text': 'a cabinet meeting that was being'}, {'start': '267.880', 'end': '272.320', 'text': 'televised. Clearly visible in that'}, {'start': '270.000', 'end': '274.160', 'text': 'photograph are chats with Rubio, with'}, {'start': '272.320', 'end': '276.720', 'text': 'Tulsi Gabbard, and with Vice President'}, {'start': '274.160', 'end': '279.840', 'text': 'JD Vance. You can actually read a part'}, {'start': '276.720', 'end': '282.639', 'text': 'of Vance\'s last message saying, "I have'}, {'start': '279.840', 'end': '283.800', 'text': 'confirmation from my counterpart." It\'s'}, {'start': '282.639', 'end': '285.680', 'text': 'turned'}, {'start': '283.800', 'end': '287.199', 'text': "off. Interesting. Who's your"}, {'start': '285.680', 'end': '289.600', 'text': "counterpart? What's turned off? We don't"}, {'start': '287.199', 'end': '291.600', 'text': 'know. Is it classified? Sure hope not.'}, {'start': '289.600', 'end': '293.919', 'text': 'All we know is Mike Waltz is out of'}, {'start': '291.600', 'end': '294.880', 'text': 'there at NSA, exiled to the UN, but'}, {'start': '293.919', 'end': '297.680', 'text': "although he's still got to get"}, {'start': '294.880', 'end': '299.840', 'text': "confirmed. We'll see. Now, it also"}, {'start': '297.680', 'end': '302.800', 'text': 'appears that part of the story happening'}, {'start': '299.840', 'end': '305.600', 'text': 'here is a kind of ideological purge led'}, {'start': '302.800', 'end': '307.840', 'text': 'by, drum roll please, this woman seen'}, {'start': '305.600', 'end': '310.639', 'text': 'here chaining herself to one of the'}, {'start': '307.840', 'end': '312.560', 'text': "doors of Twitter's headquarters in 2018"}, {'start': '310.639', 'end': '315.680', 'text': 'because the platform had banned her for'}, {'start': '312.560', 'end': '317.280', 'text': "her consistently hateful posting. It's"}, {'start': '315.680', 'end': '319.600', 'text': 'the same woman who accompanied Trump to'}, {'start': '317.280', 'end': '322.560', 'text': 'a 9/11 memorial last year, even though'}, {'start': '319.600', 'end': '325.120', 'text': "she's a 9/11 truther. She's been spotted"}, {'start': '322.560', 'end': '326.560', 'text': 'several times in the past year advising'}, {'start': '325.120', 'end': '328.240', 'text': 'the former and now current president'}, {'start': '326.560', 'end': '330.720', 'text': 'very closely. I mean really, really'}, {'start': '328.240', 'end': '333.280', 'text': "close to him. She's a far-right"}, {'start': '330.720', 'end': '335.360', 'text': 'influencer named Laura Loomer, who is'}, {'start': '333.280', 'end': '337.360', 'text': 'famous for making sweeping statements'}, {'start': '335.360', 'end': '340.240', 'text': 'like this.'}, {'start': '337.360', 'end': '342.479', 'text': 'I truly believe that the people who'}, {'start': '340.240', 'end': '345.520', 'text': 'engaged in the coup against Donald Trump'}, {'start': '342.479', 'end': '347.520', 'text': 'and have caused, you know, civil unrest'}, {'start': '345.520', 'end': '349.520', 'text': 'and chaos in our country for the last'}, {'start': '347.520', 'end': '352.240', 'text': 'seven years uh through Crossfire'}, {'start': '349.520', 'end': '353.680', 'text': 'Hurricane and also through these what I'}, {'start': '352.240', 'end': '355.120', 'text': 'believe are illegal witch hunts against'}, {'start': '353.680', 'end': '356.800', 'text': 'the president of the United States right'}, {'start': '355.120', 'end': '358.720', 'text': 'now. Unconstitutional witch hunts'}, {'start': '356.800', 'end': '360.000', 'text': 'against Donald Trump. They are'}, {'start': '358.720', 'end': '361.919', 'text': 'treasonous. They are traitors. They'}, {'start': '360.000', 'end': '363.520', 'text': 'should get the death penalty when they'}, {'start': '361.919', 'end': '365.600', 'text': 'are jailed in the next Trump'}, {'start': '363.520', 'end': '366.880', 'text': 'administration. just to be clear,'}, {'start': '365.600', 'end': '368.240', 'text': 'crossfire hurricane, meaning the the'}, {'start': '366.880', 'end': '370.479', 'text': 'folks in the FBI, the Justice'}, {'start': '368.240', 'end': '373.120', 'text': 'Department, jailed, executed under'}, {'start': '370.479', 'end': '374.560', 'text': "Trump. That's what she called for. Now,"}, {'start': '373.120', 'end': '376.560', 'text': 'early last month, on the very same day'}, {'start': '374.560', 'end': '378.639', 'text': 'that Donald Trump announced his tariffs,'}, {'start': '376.560', 'end': '380.800', 'text': 'according to New York Times, he also had'}, {'start': '378.639', 'end': '382.560', 'text': 'a truly weird meeting with one and the'}, {'start': '380.800', 'end': '384.400', 'text': 'same, Laura Loomer, in the Oval Office.'}, {'start': '382.560', 'end': '385.840', 'text': 'And in that meeting, you got Lauren'}, {'start': '384.400', 'end': '387.600', 'text': 'Loomer, president of United States, and'}, {'start': '385.840', 'end': '389.520', 'text': 'the guy running the national security'}, {'start': '387.600', 'end': '391.440', 'text': 'apparatus for the most powerful nation'}, {'start': '389.520', 'end': '393.120', 'text': "on earth. They're all in the Oval"}, {'start': '391.440', 'end': '395.280', 'text': 'Office. And in that meeting, Loomer, the'}, {'start': '393.120', 'end': '397.520', 'text': 'one you saw chained to the Twitter door,'}, {'start': '395.280', 'end': '400.160', 'text': 'uh was blasting Walt and his staff as'}, {'start': '397.520', 'end': '402.639', 'text': 'insufficiently loyal to MAGA. Shortly'}, {'start': '400.160', 'end': '404.639', 'text': 'afterward, Trump fired six officials on'}, {'start': '402.639', 'end': '406.319', 'text': 'the National Security Council. Those'}, {'start': '404.639', 'end': '407.840', 'text': 'were officials Waltz had defended in'}, {'start': '406.319', 'end': '410.319', 'text': 'that same Oval Office meeting,'}, {'start': '407.840', 'end': '412.000', 'text': 'apparently to no avail. The next day in'}, {'start': '410.319', 'end': '414.319', 'text': 'Air Force One, Trump was asked about'}, {'start': '412.000', 'end': '417.440', 'text': 'that meeting with again his national'}, {'start': '414.319', 'end': '419.599', 'text': 'security adviser and the woman who'}, {'start': '417.440', 'end': '422.240', 'text': 'chained herself to the door of Twitter'}, {'start': '419.599', 'end': '426.000', 'text': 'and how it went.'}, {'start': '422.240', 'end': '429.759', 'text': 'Laura Loomer is a very good patriot. She'}, {'start': '426.000', 'end': '431.599', 'text': 'is a very strong person and I saw her'}, {'start': '429.759', 'end': '433.800', 'text': 'yesterday for a little while. She has'}, {'start': '431.599', 'end': '436.880', 'text': 'she makes recommendations of things and'}, {'start': '433.800', 'end': '438.720', 'text': 'people and sometimes I listen to those'}, {'start': '436.880', 'end': '440.319', 'text': 'recommendations.'}, {'start': '438.720', 'end': '441.840', 'text': 'They do seem to spend a lot of time'}, {'start': '440.319', 'end': '443.360', 'text': 'together that she can make'}, {'start': '441.840', 'end': '445.680', 'text': 'recommendations sometimes. Sometimes he'}, {'start': '443.360', 'end': '447.840', 'text': 'listens to those recommendations.'}, {'start': '445.680', 'end': '449.639', 'text': 'Today, uh, we got the news that, well,'}, {'start': '447.840', 'end': '452.639', 'text': 'Waltz was out at'}, {'start': '449.639', 'end': '455.080', 'text': "NY. I don't know from outside if these"}, {'start': '452.639', 'end': '459.560', 'text': "things are related, but here's what I do"}, {'start': '455.080', 'end': '462.240', 'text': 'know. Loomer had beef with Waltz and his'}, {'start': '459.560', 'end': '464.160', 'text': "deputy, Alex Wong. He's Chinese, by the"}, {'start': '462.240', 'end': '466.479', 'text': "way, so I don't really know who's doing"}, {'start': '464.160', 'end': '468.880', 'text': 'the vetting. If I was involved in'}, {'start': '466.479', 'end': '470.120', 'text': 'vetting, things like this would not be'}, {'start': '468.880', 'end': '472.639', 'text': 'happening. Okay.'}, {'start': '470.120', 'end': '474.479', 'text': "So again, I don't know why we have"}, {'start': '472.639', 'end': '476.520', 'text': 'Chinese individuals in positions of'}, {'start': '474.479', 'end': '478.479', 'text': 'national security in the Trump'}, {'start': '476.520', 'end': '481.840', 'text': "administration. Maybe that's a question"}, {'start': '478.479', 'end': '484.560', 'text': "for Michael Waltz. I'm quite sure Alex"}, {'start': '481.840', 'end': '486.080', 'text': 'Wong is a American citizen. Uh Loomer'}, {'start': '484.560', 'end': '489.039', 'text': "seems to think that he's ethnically"}, {'start': '486.080', 'end': '490.639', 'text': 'unacceptable in the position he had.'}, {'start': '489.039', 'end': '492.160', 'text': 'Whatever the reasons for Waltz being'}, {'start': '490.639', 'end': '494.520', 'text': 'marginalized, which is possibly that he'}, {'start': '492.160', 'end': '498.000', 'text': "had a quote in loomer's mind, Chinese"}, {'start': '494.520', 'end': '500.160', 'text': 'deputy, Trump is kind of rearranging the'}, {'start': '498.000', 'end': '501.280', 'text': 'deck chairs on a badly listing ship and'}, {'start': '500.160', 'end': '503.520', 'text': "trying to do it in a way that doesn't"}, {'start': '501.280', 'end': '505.520', 'text': 'look bad for him. And part of that, we'}, {'start': '503.520', 'end': '506.879', 'text': 'should note, involves him consolidating'}, {'start': '505.520', 'end': '508.000', 'text': 'two of the most important roles in the'}, {'start': '506.879', 'end': '509.840', 'text': 'federal government. Secretary of State'}, {'start': '508.000', 'end': '511.840', 'text': 'and National Security Adviser, giving'}, {'start': '509.840', 'end': '513.279', 'text': 'them both to Marco Rubio, child of Cuban'}, {'start': '511.840', 'end': '516.159', 'text': 'immigrants, who once made his bones in'}, {'start': '513.279', 'end': '517.839', 'text': 'the Senate, standing up very proudly,'}, {'start': '516.159', 'end': '520.640', 'text': 'very rhetorically, forcefully against'}, {'start': '517.839', 'end': '523.320', 'text': 'dictators for the rule of law. A guy who'}, {'start': '520.640', 'end': '527.279', 'text': "is now the face of Trump's"}, {'start': '523.320', 'end': '529.040', 'text': 'unconstitutional rendition regime.'}, {'start': '527.279', 'end': '531.760', 'text': 'Have you been in touch with El Salvador'}, {'start': '529.040', 'end': '533.279', 'text': 'about returning Garcia? Has a formal'}, {'start': '531.760', 'end': '534.800', 'text': 'request from this administration been'}, {'start': '533.279', 'end': '536.320', 'text': 'made? Well, I would never tell you that.'}, {'start': '534.800', 'end': '538.240', 'text': "And you know who else? I'll never tell a"}, {'start': '536.320', 'end': '539.680', 'text': 'judge because the conduct of our foreign'}, {'start': '538.240', 'end': '541.120', 'text': 'policy belongs to the president of the'}, {'start': '539.680', 'end': '543.120', 'text': 'United States and the executive branch,'}, {'start': '541.120', 'end': '544.959', 'text': 'not some judge.'}, {'start': '543.120', 'end': '546.399', 'text': 'So, in order to cover the incompetency'}, {'start': '544.959', 'end': '548.160', 'text': 'of his administration, Donald Trump is'}, {'start': '546.399', 'end': '550.959', 'text': 'consolidating power even further, giving'}, {'start': '548.160', 'end': '553.360', 'text': 'two powerful positions to a lone single'}, {'start': '550.959', 'end': '554.800', 'text': 'sycopantic subordinate. Garrett Hake is'}, {'start': '553.360', 'end': '557.200', 'text': 'a senior White House correspondent for'}, {'start': '554.800', 'end': '559.680', 'text': 'NBC News and he joins me now. Garrett,'}, {'start': '557.200', 'end': '561.440', 'text': 'what light can you shed on this shakeup'}, {'start': '559.680', 'end': '563.519', 'text': 'today? Well, look, I think you'}, {'start': '561.440', 'end': '564.880', 'text': 'characterize it correctly as a demotion.'}, {'start': '563.519', 'end': '566.480', 'text': "It's especially true in this"}, {'start': '564.880', 'end': '568.080', 'text': 'administration. The president has'}, {'start': '566.480', 'end': '569.839', 'text': 'lambasted the UN throughout his'}, {'start': '568.080', 'end': '571.839', 'text': 'political and his public career. And in'}, {'start': '569.839', 'end': '573.760', 'text': 'this White House more than any other'}, {'start': '571.839', 'end': '575.920', 'text': 'proximity to Donald Trump and to the'}, {'start': '573.760', 'end': '577.440', 'text': 'White House is power. Mike Waltz was'}, {'start': '575.920', 'end': '579.360', 'text': 'just down the hallway from the Oval'}, {'start': '577.440', 'end': '581.040', 'text': 'Office. He was in every major meeting.'}, {'start': '579.360', 'end': '582.399', 'text': "Now he's going to be exiled to New York."}, {'start': '581.040', 'end': '584.480', 'text': 'I also think the fact that we know'}, {'start': '582.399', 'end': '586.160', 'text': 'nothing about the fate of his deputy,'}, {'start': '584.480', 'end': '587.920', 'text': 'who you just mentioned, Alex Wong, kind'}, {'start': '586.160', 'end': '590.240', 'text': 'of gives this away, too. They were'}, {'start': '587.920', 'end': '592.880', 'text': 'pushed up, if not exactly pushed out,'}, {'start': '590.240', 'end': '594.959', 'text': "but they won't be here any longer. Um,"}, {'start': '592.880', 'end': '596.320', 'text': 'this does go back to Signal Gate. I'}, {'start': '594.959', 'end': '598.480', 'text': 'think the big question that I still have'}, {'start': '596.320', 'end': '600.480', 'text': 'tonight is why exactly today? Our'}, {'start': '598.480', 'end': '601.920', 'text': "reporting has been that Trump's been a"}, {'start': '600.480', 'end': '603.760', 'text': 'little bit frustrated over the kind of'}, {'start': '601.920', 'end': '605.120', 'text': 'ongoing signal story. Remember, he met'}, {'start': '603.760', 'end': '607.200', 'text': 'with the same reporters from the'}, {'start': '605.120', 'end': '609.120', 'text': 'Atlantic uh a week ago. Did something'}, {'start': '607.200', 'end': '611.360', 'text': "come up in that meeting? I don't know."}, {'start': '609.120', 'end': '613.519', 'text': "But there's been kind of a thousand cuts"}, {'start': '611.360', 'end': '615.279', 'text': 'against Mike Walls. I actually thought'}, {'start': '613.519', 'end': '616.800', 'text': 'that when he survived that first Laura'}, {'start': '615.279', 'end': '618.079', 'text': 'Loomer related purge, he was probably'}, {'start': '616.800', 'end': '619.920', 'text': 'going to be okay. And in fact, talked to'}, {'start': '618.079', 'end': '621.519', 'text': 'a White House official yesterday who was'}, {'start': '619.920', 'end': '623.360', 'text': 'telling me how things had finally calmed'}, {'start': '621.519', 'end': '626.160', 'text': "down in the national security advisor's"}, {'start': '623.360', 'end': '628.079', 'text': "office. Doesn't seem to be the case. Uh"}, {'start': '626.160', 'end': '630.399', 'text': "and now Marco Rubio, who's already at"}, {'start': '628.079', 'end': '632.000', 'text': 'the White House a ton for a sitting'}, {'start': '630.399', 'end': '634.959', 'text': 'secretary of state, I think is going to'}, {'start': '632.000', 'end': '636.800', 'text': 'be here essentially every day. Yeah. I'}, {'start': '634.959', 'end': '638.560', 'text': "mean, the guy's got four jobs and"}, {'start': '636.800', 'end': '639.920', 'text': "they're not like it's not like, well,"}, {'start': '638.560', 'end': '641.839', 'text': 'you got a paper route in the morning and'}, {'start': '639.920', 'end': '643.279', 'text': "you're mowing lawns in the afternoon."}, {'start': '641.839', 'end': '645.040', 'text': 'The other part of this though, Chris, is'}, {'start': '643.279', 'end': '646.720', 'text': 'that he has had some elements of the'}, {'start': '645.040', 'end': '648.640', 'text': 'Secretary of State job stripped away'}, {'start': '646.720', 'end': '650.160', 'text': 'from him and given to other adviserss.'}, {'start': '648.640', 'end': '651.760', 'text': 'Trump has created all these envoy'}, {'start': '650.160', 'end': '653.440', 'text': "positions. Steve Woff's one of them."}, {'start': '651.760', 'end': '656.079', 'text': "Rick Grenell is one of them where he's"}, {'start': '653.440', 'end': '657.680', 'text': 'taken big diplomatic portions of the'}, {'start': '656.079', 'end': '659.839', 'text': "Secretary of State's role and given them"}, {'start': '657.680', 'end': '662.079', 'text': 'to other senior officials. Marco Rubio'}, {'start': '659.839', 'end': '664.160', 'text': 'may have the time in his schedule to do'}, {'start': '662.079', 'end': '665.839', 'text': "this since he's not the guy, you know,"}, {'start': '664.160', 'end': '667.839', 'text': 'striking the deals with Vladimir Putin'}, {'start': '665.839', 'end': '670.320', 'text': "or not. That's a decent point, Garrett"}, {'start': '667.839', 'end': '674.279', 'text': 'Hake. Uh, good good to talk to you.'}, {'start': '670.320', 'end': '674.279', 'text': 'Thank you. Be back.'}]