Could David Hogg's position as a vice chair of the DNC be in jeopardy?
CBS Miami
[{'start': '1.600', 'end': '4.560', 'text': 'Welcome back to American Decides. You'}, {'start': '3.120', 'end': '6.080', 'text': 'watch the show because you are really'}, {'start': '4.560', 'end': '8.080', 'text': "curious about politics and I'm thankful"}, {'start': '6.080', 'end': '9.920', 'text': 'for that. So, you know who David Hog is'}, {'start': '8.080', 'end': '11.440', 'text': "or you've heard the name. He's got a"}, {'start': '9.920', 'end': '13.360', 'text': 'position, vice chair of the Democratic'}, {'start': '11.440', 'end': '15.280', 'text': 'National Committee, one of three. Could'}, {'start': '13.360', 'end': '17.279', 'text': "he be dislodged from that? Well, there's"}, {'start': '15.280', 'end': '19.199', 'text': 'a conversation going on about that. One'}, {'start': '17.279', 'end': '21.359', 'text': 'of the candidates who lost a hog in that'}, {'start': '19.199', 'end': '24.240', 'text': 'election for vice chair is claiming that'}, {'start': '21.359', 'end': '26.880', 'text': 'the way that election was conducted'}, {'start': '24.240', 'end': '28.800', 'text': 'discriminated against them, meaning'}, {'start': '26.880', 'end': '30.880', 'text': 'those other challengers, and violated'}, {'start': '28.800', 'end': '32.880', 'text': 'DNC rules. This might sound like a small'}, {'start': '30.880', 'end': '34.320', 'text': 'thing, but it might be a big thing and'}, {'start': '32.880', 'end': '37.079', 'text': 'so much so that the credentials'}, {'start': '34.320', 'end': '39.920', 'text': 'committee will meet to consider that'}, {'start': '37.079', 'end': '41.440', 'text': 'complaint May 12th. I want to bring in'}, {'start': '39.920', 'end': '42.879', 'text': 'political reporter Dave Wigel of'}, {'start': '41.440', 'end': '44.719', 'text': "Semaphore who's been following this"}, {'start': '42.879', 'end': '46.960', 'text': 'story. Is this a small thing that could'}, {'start': '44.719', 'end': '48.640', 'text': 'grow into something bigger or is it a'}, {'start': '46.960', 'end': '50.160', 'text': "big thing just to begin with? That's"}, {'start': '48.640', 'end': '51.039', 'text': "it's a small thing that could grow into"}, {'start': '50.160', 'end': '53.280', 'text': "something bigger. That's the right way"}, {'start': '51.039', 'end': '55.520', 'text': 'to put it. to to back up a little bit,'}, {'start': '53.280', 'end': '56.879', 'text': 'Hog wins this race and he clarifies to'}, {'start': '55.520', 'end': '59.199', 'text': 'reporters that this pack he has been'}, {'start': '56.879', 'end': '60.800', 'text': 'running, leaders, leaders we deserve, uh'}, {'start': '59.199', 'end': '62.559', 'text': 'he mentioned it, every Democrat knew he'}, {'start': '60.800', 'end': '65.760', 'text': 'he had this pack. He mentions to'}, {'start': '62.559', 'end': '68.159', 'text': 'reporters in earlier this month uh that'}, {'start': '65.760', 'end': '69.520', 'text': "or sorry, in April that it's going to it"}, {'start': '68.159', 'end': '71.040', 'text': 'might fund some primary challenges. Oh,'}, {'start': '69.520', 'end': '73.200', 'text': "by the way, it's got 20 mil and it might"}, {'start': '71.040', 'end': '74.960', 'text': 'go after sitting House Democrats. And'}, {'start': '73.200', 'end': '76.640', 'text': 'that clashes with what the part is'}, {'start': '74.960', 'end': '78.080', 'text': 'trying to do to say no one on the party'}, {'start': '76.640', 'end': '79.920', 'text': 'can support a primary challenger because'}, {'start': '78.080', 'end': '82.240', 'text': "they don't want another repeat of being"}, {'start': '79.920', 'end': '83.920', 'text': 'accused of bias like they were in 2016'}, {'start': '82.240', 'end': '85.439', 'text': 'with Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.'}, {'start': '83.920', 'end': '86.799', 'text': 'Right. Yeah. So those are clashing and'}, {'start': '85.439', 'end': '89.280', 'text': "they're trying to calm that waters. But"}, {'start': '86.799', 'end': '90.720', 'text': "David Hog's like no. Yes. No calming the"}, {'start': '89.280', 'end': '92.240', 'text': 'waters. Yeah. Hog wants that fight to'}, {'start': '90.720', 'end': '93.840', 'text': 'happen. And he said he told me and other'}, {'start': '92.240', 'end': '95.280', 'text': 'reporters if if they pass a rule saying'}, {'start': '93.840', 'end': '96.400', 'text': "you can't intervene in primaries he's"}, {'start': '95.280', 'end': '97.840', 'text': 'not going to quit. They have to force'}, {'start': '96.400', 'end': '98.960', 'text': "him out. And there's not actually a"}, {'start': '97.840', 'end': '100.880', 'text': "mechanism to do that once you're"}, {'start': '98.960', 'end': '102.400', 'text': 'elected. This challenge which you you'}, {'start': '100.880', 'end': '104.640', 'text': 'described in the leadup. This is about'}, {'start': '102.400', 'end': '106.479', 'text': 'on election night at the at the DNC'}, {'start': '104.640', 'end': '107.840', 'text': 'meeting. Uh there were five candidates.'}, {'start': '106.479', 'end': '110.000', 'text': 'It was a vote for the top two'}, {'start': '107.840', 'end': '111.680', 'text': 'candidates, three women, two men, and'}, {'start': '110.000', 'end': '113.520', 'text': 'the argument is that this the party has'}, {'start': '111.680', 'end': '114.799', 'text': 'gender diversity rules that were'}, {'start': '113.520', 'end': '116.399', 'text': 'violated because the women were'}, {'start': '114.799', 'end': '117.840', 'text': 'discriminated against in that in that'}, {'start': '116.399', 'end': '119.040', 'text': 'vote. You can I link the whole'}, {'start': '117.840', 'end': '121.360', 'text': "complaint. It's a little complicated,"}, {'start': '119.040', 'end': '123.759', 'text': "but that's the gist, right? Yeah. And"}, {'start': '121.360', 'end': '125.240', 'text': "because the DNC doesn't want to dismiss"}, {'start': '123.759', 'end': '128.160', 'text': 'a complaint like'}, {'start': '125.240', 'end': '129.840', 'text': "that without any review, it's going to"}, {'start': '128.160', 'end': '132.319', 'text': 'at least review this. That review'}, {'start': '129.840', 'end': '134.160', 'text': "doesn't necessarily mean Hog is in"}, {'start': '132.319', 'end': '136.080', 'text': "trouble. You'll review it. Although the"}, {'start': '134.160', 'end': '137.599', 'text': 'people who want Hog out and I think'}, {'start': '136.080', 'end': '139.280', 'text': 'reporters, me and other reporters are'}, {'start': '137.599', 'end': '141.360', 'text': 'talking to these people. They do see'}, {'start': '139.280', 'end': '142.959', 'text': 'this as a way to potentially get him get'}, {'start': '141.360', 'end': '145.120', 'text': 'him out of there. What she wants is the'}, {'start': '142.959', 'end': '147.440', 'text': 'vacate the vice chair election. It was'}, {'start': '145.120', 'end': '149.440', 'text': "Hog and it was Mam Kinyatta who's openly"}, {'start': '147.440', 'end': '151.440', 'text': 'gay black man. It would be vacate that'}, {'start': '149.440', 'end': '153.519', 'text': 'have a new race. Ostensibly Hog would'}, {'start': '151.440', 'end': '154.720', 'text': 'win that race because in the inter in'}, {'start': '153.519', 'end': '157.360', 'text': 'the interim more people have gotten'}, {'start': '154.720', 'end': '159.360', 'text': 'angry at this primary situation, right?'}, {'start': '157.360', 'end': '162.080', 'text': 'and so angry that there have been some'}, {'start': '159.360', 'end': '163.840', 'text': 'public clashes and James Carville who'}, {'start': '162.080', 'end': '166.319', 'text': 'whether you love him or hate him is a'}, {'start': '163.840', 'end': '167.599', 'text': 'significant voice an experienced'}, {'start': '166.319', 'end': '169.920', 'text': 'significant voice from the Democratic'}, {'start': '167.599', 'end': '171.680', 'text': 'party clashed with David Hog on Terara'}, {'start': '169.920', 'end': '174.480', 'text': "Paul Mary's podcast. Let's take a quick"}, {'start': '171.680', 'end': '176.720', 'text': 'listen to that. I just will tell you'}, {'start': '174.480', 'end': '178.400', 'text': "right to your face I think it's abominal"}, {'start': '176.720', 'end': '180.720', 'text': 'that you have anything to do with the'}, {'start': '178.400', 'end': '182.800', 'text': "DNC and you're going to go and raise $20"}, {'start': '180.720', 'end': '184.640', 'text': 'million to beat other Democrats. There'}, {'start': '182.800', 'end': '186.159', 'text': 'is a real danger though. You just talked'}, {'start': '184.640', 'end': '187.760', 'text': 'about how those Medicaid cuts were'}, {'start': '186.159', 'end': '189.519', 'text': 'terrible. Obviously, those were enabled'}, {'start': '187.760', 'end': '192.159', 'text': 'by two of our members literally passing'}, {'start': '189.519', 'end': '194.800', 'text': 'away, unfortunately.'}, {'start': '192.159', 'end': '196.640', 'text': 'And after that podcast, kind of a'}, {'start': '194.800', 'end': '199.120', 'text': 'meeting of the minds sort of. Yes.'}, {'start': '196.640', 'end': '200.959', 'text': 'Carville said on X that he actually'}, {'start': '199.120', 'end': '202.640', 'text': 'likes David Hog. He fights. He compared'}, {'start': '200.959', 'end': '203.920', 'text': 'him to Alyss Srant. That was the'}, {'start': '202.640', 'end': '205.840', 'text': 'description that Abraham Lincoln had.'}, {'start': '203.920', 'end': '208.319', 'text': 'And I I texted Hog after that. He said'}, {'start': '205.840', 'end': '210.319', 'text': "that's progress. Uh and he really does."}, {'start': '208.319', 'end': '211.599', 'text': 'I think what Hog is doing here and other'}, {'start': '210.319', 'end': '213.360', 'text': 'de other other Democrats have done this.'}, {'start': '211.599', 'end': '214.959', 'text': 'Howard Dean did this with Rahm Emanuel'}, {'start': '213.360', 'end': '216.799', 'text': 'is starting a fight over something he'}, {'start': '214.959', 'end': '219.440', 'text': 'thinks is good for the party to be seen'}, {'start': '216.799', 'end': '220.799', 'text': 'doing which is saying yes we have too'}, {'start': '219.440', 'end': '222.879', 'text': 'too much dead wood in the party or maybe'}, {'start': '220.799', 'end': '224.959', 'text': "a nicer way to put it although hasn't"}, {'start': '222.879', 'end': '227.120', 'text': "been that nice and saying Hog's"}, {'start': '224.959', 'end': '230.239', 'text': 'phraseiology is asleep at the wheel.'}, {'start': '227.120', 'end': '233.200', 'text': 'Yeah, that is maybe nicer saying the the'}, {'start': '230.239', 'end': '235.519', 'text': 'party is cannot just be a protection'}, {'start': '233.200', 'end': '237.040', 'text': 'association. We have candidates who are'}, {'start': '235.519', 'end': '239.439', 'text': 'not doing the best they could with their'}, {'start': '237.040', 'end': '240.879', 'text': 'seats. It is a very insurgent argument'}, {'start': '239.439', 'end': '242.239', 'text': "that he's making. It's one, frankly,"}, {'start': '240.879', 'end': '243.680', 'text': 'Republicans have inside the tent with'}, {'start': '242.239', 'end': '245.360', 'text': 'Donald Trump, a different version of'}, {'start': '243.680', 'end': '247.120', 'text': "that. He's happy as president to go and"}, {'start': '245.360', 'end': '248.480', 'text': 'say, "You\'re an incumbent. Get out of'}, {'start': '247.120', 'end': '250.959', 'text': "here. I'm going to campaign for your"}, {'start': '248.480', 'end': '252.879', 'text': 'opponent." Democrats, because of this'}, {'start': '250.959', 'end': '254.000', 'text': "2016 hangover, they're very worried"}, {'start': '252.879', 'end': '255.280', 'text': "about looking that way, and they can't"}, {'start': '254.000', 'end': '258.400', 'text': 'agree with the party he fully stands'}, {'start': '255.280', 'end': '260.239', 'text': 'for. But the 2016 participants are no'}, {'start': '258.400', 'end': '262.560', 'text': 'longer here. This is a different party'}, {'start': '260.239', 'end': '264.320', 'text': 'in a different situation that it finds'}, {'start': '262.560', 'end': '266.000', 'text': "itself in. I think that's what David Hog"}, {'start': '264.320', 'end': '268.080', 'text': 'would say having been in the chair that'}, {'start': '266.000', 'end': '270.400', 'text': 'you were in not five or six days ago and'}, {'start': '268.080', 'end': '271.680', 'text': "talking about why he's motivated. Yes."}, {'start': '270.400', 'end': '274.080', 'text': 'Well, there there are different problems'}, {'start': '271.680', 'end': '275.680', 'text': 'and they solving one gets you further'}, {'start': '274.080', 'end': '277.840', 'text': 'away from solving another. The party'}, {'start': '275.680', 'end': '279.680', 'text': 'wants to look unbiased. It does not'}, {'start': '277.840', 'end': '281.199', 'text': 'really want to have so many members who'}, {'start': '279.680', 'end': '283.360', 'text': "are so old they're bad at the job or"}, {'start': '281.199', 'end': '284.800', 'text': 'they die in office. Uh but what is the'}, {'start': '283.360', 'end': '285.919', 'text': 'polite way to do that? It satisfies'}, {'start': '284.800', 'end': '287.360', 'text': "everybody. There isn't. They have to"}, {'start': '285.919', 'end': '288.720', 'text': 'have a fight about it. The question is'}, {'start': '287.360', 'end': '290.479', 'text': 'is this the kind of fight that gets'}, {'start': '288.720', 'end': '292.080', 'text': 'coverage that helps them or is it the'}, {'start': '290.479', 'end': '293.759', 'text': "fight that's just completely negative? I"}, {'start': '292.080', 'end': '295.280', 'text': 'saw some of the reaction to Hog and the'}, {'start': '293.759', 'end': '296.639', 'text': 'way this is about gender rules actually'}, {'start': '295.280', 'end': '297.919', 'text': 'seemed to help him. Some conservatives'}, {'start': '296.639', 'end': '299.000', 'text': 'were starting to root root for him'}, {'start': '297.919', 'end': '300.960', 'text': 'because they find those rules'}, {'start': '299.000', 'end': '302.160', 'text': 'ridiculous. Well, one thing we know for'}, {'start': '300.960', 'end': '304.320', 'text': "sure, there's a lot more conversation"}, {'start': '302.160', 'end': '305.520', 'text': 'about the one of the three vice chairs'}, {'start': '304.320', 'end': '306.800', 'text': 'of the Democratic National Committee'}, {'start': '305.520', 'end': '308.080', 'text': "than there is about the chairman. We'll"}, {'start': '306.800', 'end': '309.600', 'text': 'try to fix that. Get the chairman on'}, {'start': '308.080', 'end': '311.919', 'text': "this show very soon. We're going to work"}, {'start': '309.600', 'end': '311.919', 'text': 'on that.'}]