The Beat With Ari Melber - May 1 | Audio Only
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Michael'}, {'start': '22.160', 'end': '27.279', 'text': 'Waltz out as national security adviser.'}, {'start': '25.519', 'end': '30.240', 'text': 'That is of course a key role typically'}, {'start': '27.279', 'end': '32.559', 'text': 'held for well longer than a 100 days,'}, {'start': '30.240', 'end': '34.320', 'text': 'typically for years by seasoned national'}, {'start': '32.559', 'end': '37.040', 'text': "security vets. This move is Trump's"}, {'start': '34.320', 'end': '39.600', 'text': 'first major senior staffering change of'}, {'start': '37.040', 'end': '42.480', 'text': 'the second term coming just 48 days'}, {'start': '39.600', 'end': '44.399', 'text': "after Walt's first released discussion"}, {'start': '42.480', 'end': '47.600', 'text': 'internal discussion of war plans through'}, {'start': '44.399', 'end': '50.239', 'text': 'that app. Many experts said it was a'}, {'start': '47.600', 'end': '53.920', 'text': 'fireball offense at the time. It drew'}, {'start': '50.239', 'end': '56.480', 'text': 'magazine covers kind of reflecting and'}, {'start': '53.920', 'end': '59.520', 'text': 'really mocking uh what was seen as an'}, {'start': '56.480', 'end': '61.680', 'text': 'amateur-ish mistake, playing with larger'}, {'start': '59.520', 'end': '63.680', 'text': 'risk. National security experts said'}, {'start': '61.680', 'end': '65.040', 'text': 'that mistake literally made the United'}, {'start': '63.680', 'end': '67.360', 'text': 'States more vulnerable to massive'}, {'start': '65.040', 'end': '69.520', 'text': "foreign cyber attacks. Today's move"}, {'start': '67.360', 'end': '72.799', 'text': 'shows how the lingering scandal and the'}, {'start': '69.520', 'end': '74.520', 'text': 'heat ultimately proved too much, at'}, {'start': '72.799', 'end': '78.640', 'text': 'least for the official, to be in this'}, {'start': '74.520', 'end': '80.720', 'text': 'post, in the Trump administration.'}, {'start': '78.640', 'end': '82.560', 'text': 'editor and chief of The Atlantic,'}, {'start': '80.720', 'end': '85.040', 'text': 'Jeffrey Goldberg, says he was'}, {'start': '82.560', 'end': '86.560', 'text': "accidentally texted war plans. I don't"}, {'start': '85.040', 'end': '88.720', 'text': "know anything about it. I'm not a big"}, {'start': '86.560', 'end': '90.799', 'text': 'fan of The Atlantic. So, the person that'}, {'start': '88.720', 'end': '93.360', 'text': 'I thought was on there was never on'}, {'start': '90.799', 'end': '95.759', 'text': 'there. It was Who was that person? Well,'}, {'start': '93.360', 'end': '97.280', 'text': "I'm not. Look, Laura, I take I I take"}, {'start': '95.759', 'end': '98.640', 'text': "responsibility. Trump said it'll never"}, {'start': '97.280', 'end': '100.320', 'text': "happen again, and from now on, they'll"}, {'start': '98.640', 'end': '101.759', 'text': 'only talk about war plans over Snapchat.'}, {'start': '100.320', 'end': '104.159', 'text': "The White House and the president's"}, {'start': '101.759', 'end': '106.399', 'text': 'national security team doubling down on'}, {'start': '104.159', 'end': '108.720', 'text': 'efforts to shift blame surrounding that'}, {'start': '106.399', 'end': '110.720', 'text': 'signal chat debacle. Mike Wals, I guess'}, {'start': '108.720', 'end': '113.280', 'text': 'he said he claimed responsibility. I'}, {'start': '110.720', 'end': '116.159', 'text': "don't think he should apologize. I think"}, {'start': '113.280', 'end': '119.840', 'text': "he's doing his best."}, {'start': '116.159', 'end': '122.079', 'text': 'Maybe he was doing his best. The verdict'}, {'start': '119.840', 'end': '123.600', 'text': "is that it wasn't good enough. And so"}, {'start': '122.079', 'end': '125.280', 'text': 'those early defenses, you know, nothing'}, {'start': '123.600', 'end': '127.959', 'text': 'to apologize for at all, have melted'}, {'start': '125.280', 'end': '129.840', 'text': 'into a version of what passes for'}, {'start': '127.959', 'end': '132.400', 'text': 'accountability, even if it comes with'}, {'start': '129.840', 'end': '134.480', 'text': 'spin and is partial. Waltz is taking'}, {'start': '132.400', 'end': '137.080', 'text': 'another job for the Trump administration'}, {'start': '134.480', 'end': '139.360', 'text': 'in New York, representing America at the'}, {'start': '137.080', 'end': '141.120', 'text': 'UN. No permanent replacement has been'}, {'start': '139.360', 'end': '142.760', 'text': 'named today yet for Walt, so Secretary'}, {'start': '141.120', 'end': '145.040', 'text': 'of State Rubio will be the temporary'}, {'start': '142.760', 'end': '146.720', 'text': 'backfill. It is the kind of shakeup'}, {'start': '145.040', 'end': '149.440', 'text': 'Trump has sought to avoid, the Times'}, {'start': '146.720', 'end': '151.680', 'text': 'reports. And while the UN can play of'}, {'start': '149.440', 'end': '154.000', 'text': 'course important roles, Trump and'}, {'start': '151.680', 'end': '157.200', 'text': 'Republicans have routinely belittled it'}, {'start': '154.000', 'end': '159.840', 'text': 'as something like a world monitor. So'}, {'start': '157.200', 'end': '162.000', 'text': 'being sent up to New York to meet with'}, {'start': '159.840', 'end': '165.040', 'text': 'those foreign diplomats outside of the'}, {'start': '162.000', 'end': '167.680', 'text': 'circles of power in Washington is in a'}, {'start': '165.040', 'end': '169.360', 'text': 'MAGA sense viewed as a demotion. There'}, {'start': '167.680', 'end': '170.720', 'text': 'are signs Waltz himself heard about this'}, {'start': '169.360', 'end': '172.720', 'text': 'very last minute. He was on the White'}, {'start': '170.720', 'end': '175.120', 'text': 'House grounds. We could see there this'}, {'start': '172.720', 'end': '177.360', 'text': 'morning after doing a TV interview and'}, {'start': '175.120', 'end': '179.840', 'text': 'after some tough headlines about this'}, {'start': '177.360', 'end': '182.239', 'text': 'change started trickling out. The White'}, {'start': '179.840', 'end': '185.040', 'text': 'House then announced he would take this'}, {'start': '182.239', 'end': '188.080', 'text': 'UN vacancy. There he was today. The'}, {'start': '185.040', 'end': '191.360', 'text': 'signal breach cost Walt his job. So it'}, {'start': '188.080', 'end': '193.680', 'text': 'is notable that he was just caught using'}, {'start': '191.360', 'end': '196.640', 'text': 'signal in an open press gathering of the'}, {'start': '193.680', 'end': '199.040', 'text': 'cabinet again this week. This is a'}, {'start': '196.640', 'end': '202.000', 'text': 'Reuters uh news photographer who'}, {'start': '199.040', 'end': '204.640', 'text': 'captured his hands you see there. Now,'}, {'start': '202.000', 'end': '206.480', 'text': 'experienced people know when you go to'}, {'start': '204.640', 'end': '209.920', 'text': 'the open section of the cabinet meeting,'}, {'start': '206.480', 'end': '211.360', 'text': "the mic is on. It's it's on the record"}, {'start': '209.920', 'end': '213.200', 'text': 'as they say, and the cameras and the'}, {'start': '211.360', 'end': '214.799', 'text': 'photographers are quite visibly there.'}, {'start': '213.200', 'end': '217.200', 'text': 'Yet, this Reuters photographer was still'}, {'start': '214.799', 'end': '219.440', 'text': 'able to capture him opening his signal'}, {'start': '217.200', 'end': '221.040', 'text': 'app and including what he lists as'}, {'start': '219.440', 'end': '222.959', 'text': 'apparently real names of high-ranking'}, {'start': '221.040', 'end': '224.400', 'text': "officials. They're not using code names"}, {'start': '222.959', 'end': '227.519', 'text': 'here. has references on his phone to'}, {'start': '224.400', 'end': '230.720', 'text': 'what looks like Rubio Gabbard and JD'}, {'start': '227.519', 'end': '232.799', 'text': 'Vance. You see there the phone exposed a'}, {'start': '230.720', 'end': '234.560', 'text': 'message from the sender named JD Vance'}, {'start': '232.799', 'end': '236.879', 'text': 'which said he had quote confirmation'}, {'start': '234.560', 'end': '238.799', 'text': "from a counterpart and quote it's turned"}, {'start': '236.879', 'end': '239.920', 'text': "off. That's what we could read on it."}, {'start': '238.799', 'end': '242.080', 'text': 'Those are fragments of the'}, {'start': '239.920', 'end': '243.840', 'text': 'communications. They could mean a lot'}, {'start': '242.080', 'end': '247.040', 'text': 'more to certain foreign adversaries who'}, {'start': '243.840', 'end': '248.720', 'text': 'can combine them with other intel. So'}, {'start': '247.040', 'end': '251.120', 'text': 'that was his last cabinet meeting as'}, {'start': '248.720', 'end': '253.040', 'text': 'national security adviser. And to be'}, {'start': '251.120', 'end': '256.079', 'text': 'clear, like the security breaches that'}, {'start': '253.040', 'end': '258.799', 'text': 'dogged his now short tenure, it might be'}, {'start': '256.079', 'end': '260.160', 'text': 'remembered more for that kind of sloppy'}, {'start': '258.799', 'end': '262.000', 'text': 'approach to security than the'}, {'start': '260.160', 'end': '264.280', 'text': 'boilerplate statements he made during'}, {'start': '262.000', 'end': '266.720', 'text': 'it, praising the'}, {'start': '264.280', 'end': '269.280', 'text': 'president. This is leadership at its'}, {'start': '266.720', 'end': '272.080', 'text': 'finest, led by our commanderin-chief,'}, {'start': '269.280', 'end': '275.040', 'text': 'who loves the troops and they love him.'}, {'start': '272.080', 'end': '278.320', 'text': 'You had a 100 days of your leadership'}, {'start': '275.040', 'end': '281.120', 'text': "with with respect uh with strength. It's"}, {'start': '278.320', 'end': '283.360', 'text': 'an honor uh to serve you in this'}, {'start': '281.120', 'end': '287.240', 'text': 'administration. Uh and I think the world'}, {'start': '283.360', 'end': '290.000', 'text': 'is far better, far safer uh for'}, {'start': '287.240', 'end': '291.440', 'text': 'it. Whether the world is safer remains'}, {'start': '290.000', 'end': '294.479', 'text': 'to be seen, but the Trump'}, {'start': '291.440', 'end': '297.600', 'text': "administration's impact on safety and"}, {'start': '294.479', 'end': '300.080', 'text': 'creating safety risks out of whole cloth'}, {'start': '297.600', 'end': '301.759', 'text': 'is what got Waltz ousted so quickly. I'}, {'start': '300.080', 'end': '303.800', 'text': 'mean, again, if you think about these'}, {'start': '301.759', 'end': '307.039', 'text': 'jobs are probably hard to do,'}, {'start': '303.800', 'end': '308.639', 'text': 'but if you just did nothing, you might'}, {'start': '307.039', 'end': '310.400', 'text': 'have had less of an impact than how much'}, {'start': '308.639', 'end': '312.320', 'text': 'he leaked about war plans. Now, another'}, {'start': '310.400', 'end': '314.720', 'text': 'shortlived Trump aid you might remember'}, {'start': '312.320', 'end': '316.479', 'text': 'on your screen there, Anthony Scormucci.'}, {'start': '314.720', 'end': '318.320', 'text': 'Well, he got in a little jab roasting'}, {'start': '316.479', 'end': '320.440', 'text': 'his fellow MAGA traveler when this news'}, {'start': '318.320', 'end': '323.320', 'text': 'hit today, noting Waltz has now served'}, {'start': '320.440', 'end': '325.840', 'text': 'about 9.2'}, {'start': '323.320', 'end': '327.759', 'text': 'Scaramucci as a unit of time for people'}, {'start': '325.840', 'end': '330.400', 'text': "who don't hold down these jobs very"}, {'start': '327.759', 'end': '332.880', 'text': "long. Now that's a tumult inside the"}, {'start': '330.400', 'end': '335.560', 'text': 'White House and it is just one job'}, {'start': '332.880', 'end': '340.080', 'text': 'albeit an important one that reinforces'}, {'start': '335.560', 'end': '342.039', 'text': 'how facts matter. It was the fact of'}, {'start': '340.080', 'end': '346.240', 'text': 'sharing the war'}, {'start': '342.039', 'end': '348.240', 'text': "plans covered documented sort of can't"}, {'start': '346.240', 'end': '350.639', 'text': 'really spin or deny your way out of that'}, {'start': '348.240', 'end': '353.120', 'text': 'and then the story lasting people'}, {'start': '350.639', 'end': '354.479', 'text': 'staying on it that ultimately changed'}, {'start': '353.120', 'end': '356.400', 'text': "the staffing. Now, that's just one"}, {'start': '354.479', 'end': '357.600', 'text': 'position, an important one, but it'}, {'start': '356.400', 'end': '358.960', 'text': 'reminds you that while the'}, {'start': '357.600', 'end': '360.240', 'text': 'administration and some of the folks'}, {'start': '358.960', 'end': '362.000', 'text': 'around them say they use their own'}, {'start': '360.240', 'end': '363.400', 'text': 'reality or nothing matters or the press'}, {'start': '362.000', 'end': '367.120', 'text': "doesn't matter anymore, this was"}, {'start': '363.400', 'end': '369.120', 'text': 'entirely a product of the facts, the'}, {'start': '367.120', 'end': '371.600', 'text': 'reporting, and the sustained pressure'}, {'start': '369.120', 'end': '373.680', 'text': 'around the nation. Trump continues to be'}, {'start': '371.600', 'end': '376.160', 'text': 'really facing a souring economy and a'}, {'start': '373.680', 'end': '377.680', 'text': 'trade war that is hurting him. And for'}, {'start': '376.160', 'end': '380.080', 'text': 'all the talk about Republicans who move'}, {'start': '377.680', 'end': '381.919', 'text': 'with lockstep loyalty that you know Ted'}, {'start': '380.080', 'end': '384.560', 'text': 'Cruz will stand by Donald Trump once he'}, {'start': '381.919', 'end': '386.240', 'text': 'won and never push back and Trump has'}, {'start': '384.560', 'end': '388.479', 'text': 'benefited from that type of support at'}, {'start': '386.240', 'end': '390.479', 'text': "times. It's also notable right now that"}, {'start': '388.479', 'end': '393.360', 'text': 'Donald Trump has picked a giant fight'}, {'start': '390.479', 'end': '395.919', 'text': "that's still going on with a rightle"}, {'start': '393.360', 'end': '397.199', 'text': "leaning group that isn't rolling over."}, {'start': '395.919', 'end': '399.039', 'text': "I'm talking about financial"}, {'start': '397.199', 'end': '400.240', 'text': 'conservatives and Wall Street and people'}, {'start': '399.039', 'end': '402.479', 'text': 'involved in all that work because'}, {'start': '400.240', 'end': '404.000', 'text': "they're alarmed over the costly tariffs"}, {'start': '402.479', 'end': '406.080', 'text': 'that are driving the economy down,'}, {'start': '404.000', 'end': '407.560', 'text': 'shrinking gross domestic product, which'}, {'start': '406.080', 'end': '410.639', 'text': 'is a warning sign for a possible'}, {'start': '407.560', 'end': '413.280', 'text': "recession. Fox News's sister outlet, the"}, {'start': '410.639', 'end': '415.600', 'text': 'New York Post, skewering Trump today for'}, {'start': '413.280', 'end': '418.160', 'text': 'hiking toy prices with his tariffs and'}, {'start': '415.600', 'end': '420.720', 'text': 'then trying to minimize it all. Skimp on'}, {'start': '418.160', 'end': '423.599', 'text': 'the Barbie is how the front page is'}, {'start': '420.720', 'end': '425.840', 'text': 'mocking the president. And it is still'}, {'start': '423.599', 'end': '428.160', 'text': 'the economy stupid as James Carville'}, {'start': '425.840', 'end': '430.560', 'text': 'memorably put it. And the point there is'}, {'start': '428.160', 'end': '433.039', 'text': 'is not just that the economy can drive'}, {'start': '430.560', 'end': '436.560', 'text': "election outcomes. It's that the economy"}, {'start': '433.039', 'end': '438.960', 'text': 'just sets the baseline mood. In boom'}, {'start': '436.560', 'end': '440.960', 'text': 'times, people may look the other way.'}, {'start': '438.960', 'end': '442.720', 'text': 'But when things go bust like they have'}, {'start': '440.960', 'end': '445.199', 'text': 'under these tariffs, the nation takes a'}, {'start': '442.720', 'end': '446.880', 'text': 'more skeptical look at its government.'}, {'start': '445.199', 'end': '449.520', 'text': 'And people are now hearing facts about'}, {'start': '446.880', 'end': '450.960', 'text': "Trump's stumbling 100 days, which is"}, {'start': '449.520', 'end': '452.960', 'text': 'clearly driving opposition, as I'}, {'start': '450.960', 'end': '454.720', 'text': 'mentioned, in conservative media like'}, {'start': '452.960', 'end': '456.400', 'text': 'the Post, in financial quarters, and'}, {'start': '454.720', 'end': '460.960', 'text': 'then really across the country here.'}, {'start': '456.400', 'end': '462.680', 'text': 'These are really stunningly negative'}, {'start': '460.960', 'end': '465.840', 'text': 'underwater'}, {'start': '462.680', 'end': '467.840', 'text': 'results for Donald Trump. You look at'}, {'start': '465.840', 'end': '470.080', 'text': 'this on your screen, we are a long ways'}, {'start': '467.840', 'end': '471.880', 'text': 'from his November comeback. Underwater'}, {'start': '470.080', 'end': '475.080', 'text': 'at all major polls, down'}, {'start': '471.880', 'end': '477.720', 'text': "11% in Fox News. So that's the"}, {'start': '475.080', 'end': '480.000', 'text': "temperature. Then there's the political"}, {'start': '477.720', 'end': '481.520', 'text': 'thermostat because we are in a dynamic'}, {'start': '480.000', 'end': '483.520', 'text': 'process. There are those who think you'}, {'start': '481.520', 'end': '485.360', 'text': "should just give up or tune out and it's"}, {'start': '483.520', 'end': '488.160', 'text': 'a free country. You could do that. But'}, {'start': '485.360', 'end': '489.919', 'text': 'there are others like the signs we see'}, {'start': '488.160', 'end': '491.280', 'text': 'at some of these protests today. This'}, {'start': '489.919', 'end': '493.919', 'text': 'one in Michigan. You voted for'}, {'start': '491.280', 'end': '496.319', 'text': 'democracy, not dictatorship, that are'}, {'start': '493.919', 'end': '499.680', 'text': 'trying to summon the moment to build'}, {'start': '496.319', 'end': '502.120', 'text': 'something larger. In California, we saw'}, {'start': '499.680', 'end': '504.919', 'text': 'a sign that simply says, "We the'}, {'start': '502.120', 'end': '508.000', 'text': 'people deserve'}, {'start': '504.919', 'end': '510.000', 'text': 'better. Thousands were seen gathering in'}, {'start': '508.000', 'end': '512.399', 'text': 'Boston, in Washington, in San Francisco,'}, {'start': '510.000', 'end': '514.800', 'text': 'and Chicago." These are new rallies. So,'}, {'start': '512.399', 'end': '516.159', 'text': "if you're watching live on television or"}, {'start': '514.800', 'end': '518.399', 'text': "on YouTube, you're seeing things that"}, {'start': '516.159', 'end': '519.760', 'text': "are happening now. Today's news, but it"}, {'start': '518.399', 'end': '521.200', 'text': 'might look familiar because over the'}, {'start': '519.760', 'end': '523.760', 'text': "last several weeks, we've covered a"}, {'start': '521.200', 'end': '525.519', 'text': 'bunch of similar scenes. smaller groups'}, {'start': '523.760', 'end': '527.279', 'text': 'in small towns, some of them in'}, {'start': '525.519', 'end': '528.800', 'text': 'conservative and red states, larger'}, {'start': '527.279', 'end': '531.120', 'text': 'gatherings in the large cities. Of'}, {'start': '528.800', 'end': '533.519', 'text': "course, it's a pro ratta per capita type"}, {'start': '531.120', 'end': '535.920', 'text': 'thing, but this keeps happening. More of'}, {'start': '533.519', 'end': '538.880', 'text': "a ground swell than we've seen in most"}, {'start': '535.920', 'end': '540.399', 'text': 'administrations early periods. The'}, {'start': '538.880', 'end': '543.279', 'text': 'shrinking economy also drawing'}, {'start': '540.399', 'end': '546.560', 'text': 'comparisons to a very memorable Seinfeld'}, {'start': '543.279', 'end': '548.720', 'text': 'episode featuring George Castanza.'}, {'start': '546.560', 'end': '551.760', 'text': 'So, Jimmy Fallon brought this up on late'}, {'start': '548.720', 'end': '554.320', 'text': "night, discussing Trump's trade war"}, {'start': '551.760', 'end': '556.959', 'text': 'leaning to economic shrinkage, to that'}, {'start': '554.320', 'end': '559.760', 'text': 'shrinking GDP I mentioned and likening'}, {'start': '556.959', 'end': '560.440', 'text': "it to George's troubles."}, {'start': '559.760', 'end': '562.399', 'text': 'He'}, {'start': '560.440', 'end': '563.920', 'text': 'shrank. Trump was like, "Well, it was'}, {'start': '562.399', 'end': '566.000', 'text': 'the three coldest months. Of course, it'}, {'start': '563.920', 'end': '568.240', 'text': 'was shrinkage."'}, {'start': '566.000', 'end': '570.240', 'text': 'Yes, the US economy is undergoing what'}, {'start': '568.240', 'end': '573.240', 'text': 'economists refer to as a George'}, {'start': '570.240', 'end': '573.240', 'text': 'Castanza.'}, {'start': '573.920', 'end': '580.000', 'text': 'You can see the shrinkage got everybody'}, {'start': '576.680', 'end': '582.560', 'text': 'thinking. But the joke only works,'}, {'start': '580.000', 'end': '585.080', 'text': 'especially in mass late night shows, if'}, {'start': '582.560', 'end': '587.200', 'text': 'everybody is in on the'}, {'start': '585.080', 'end': '588.959', 'text': 'punchline. A lot of folks watch late'}, {'start': '587.200', 'end': '590.560', 'text': 'night, including people rooting for'}, {'start': '588.959', 'end': '592.959', 'text': 'Trump, including Republicans or'}, {'start': '590.560', 'end': '596.160', 'text': 'conservatives and what have you. But the'}, {'start': '592.959', 'end': '598.360', 'text': 'facts still matter. And if you dare to'}, {'start': '596.160', 'end': '602.320', 'text': 'tell people that the economy is not'}, {'start': '598.360', 'end': '604.399', 'text': 'shrinking, that the trade war is'}, {'start': '602.320', 'end': '606.080', 'text': 'working, you are going to run right into'}, {'start': '604.399', 'end': '608.320', 'text': 'the brick wall, which Trump has run into'}, {'start': '606.080', 'end': '611.440', 'text': 'in this polling I showed you, because'}, {'start': '608.320', 'end': '613.399', 'text': 'people are living it. You cannot fool'}, {'start': '611.440', 'end': '615.920', 'text': 'people out of their economic lived'}, {'start': '613.399', 'end': '617.600', 'text': 'reality. And like I mentioned, some'}, {'start': '615.920', 'end': '619.120', 'text': 'folks are following the news less these'}, {'start': '617.600', 'end': '621.040', 'text': "days for all kinds of reasons. You don't"}, {'start': '619.120', 'end': '623.040', 'text': 'have to follow the news to have heard'}, {'start': '621.040', 'end': '624.800', 'text': 'about the failed tariffs and your'}, {'start': '623.040', 'end': '627.519', 'text': 'retirement accounts going up in smoke'}, {'start': '624.800', 'end': '629.200', 'text': 'and all of it being the choice of this'}, {'start': '627.519', 'end': '630.800', 'text': 'president. So, how does that reality and'}, {'start': '629.200', 'end': '632.160', 'text': 'these other governing problems collide?'}, {'start': '630.800', 'end': '636.440', 'text': "We have two special guests when we're"}, {'start': '632.160', 'end': '636.440', 'text': 'back in 90 seconds.'}, {'start': '640.720', 'end': '644.800', 'text': "I didn't think this administration could"}, {'start': '642.480', 'end': '648.399', 'text': "still shock me. But today's story, which"}, {'start': '644.800', 'end': '650.920', 'text': 'I read about in the Atlantic, was beyond'}, {'start': '648.399', 'end': '653.680', 'text': 'belief. It was like, "Holy crap, on'}, {'start': '650.920', 'end': '655.200', 'text': 'steroids." Holy crap on steroids. That\'s'}, {'start': '653.680', 'end': '657.680', 'text': 'how national security veteran Senator'}, {'start': '655.200', 'end': '659.600', 'text': 'Warner explained his reaction to Rachel'}, {'start': '657.680', 'end': '661.760', 'text': 'Matau when we first had that signal'}, {'start': '659.600', 'end': '663.440', 'text': "breach. I'm joined now by MSNBC"}, {'start': '661.760', 'end': '665.160', 'text': 'contributor Professor Jason Johnson and'}, {'start': '663.440', 'end': '668.399', 'text': 'Sabrina Singh, a veteran of the Biden'}, {'start': '665.160', 'end': '672.519', 'text': 'campaign who served as Pentagon deputy'}, {'start': '668.399', 'end': '676.839', 'text': 'press secretary. Uh Jason, one takeaway'}, {'start': '672.519', 'end': '682.120', 'text': 'is the facts documented and'}, {'start': '676.839', 'end': '685.120', 'text': 'consistently repeated did have an impact'}, {'start': '682.120', 'end': '686.480', 'text': "here. They did and it's something that I"}, {'start': '685.120', 'end': '688.399', 'text': 'think a lot of people are surprised.'}, {'start': '686.480', 'end': '690.720', 'text': 'There are so many different mistakes'}, {'start': '688.399', 'end': '692.399', 'text': "we've seen, strange people we've seen"}, {'start': '690.720', 'end': '694.640', 'text': 'move into this administration. Cash'}, {'start': '692.399', 'end': '696.079', 'text': 'Patel, Tulsi Gabber, I I think there was'}, {'start': '694.640', 'end': '698.320', 'text': 'a belief by a lot of people in and'}, {'start': '696.079', 'end': '700.079', 'text': 'outside of Washington. When was someone'}, {'start': '698.320', 'end': '701.839', 'text': 'finally going to face consequences,'}, {'start': '700.079', 'end': '703.200', 'text': 'right? When was someone finally going to'}, {'start': '701.839', 'end': '704.560', 'text': 'get in trouble for the mistakes that'}, {'start': '703.200', 'end': '706.880', 'text': "we've seen in this administration? So,"}, {'start': '704.560', 'end': '708.240', 'text': "Waltz is out, but but again, he's he's"}, {'start': '706.880', 'end': '709.839', 'text': 'kind of being given a promotion'}, {'start': '708.240', 'end': '711.440', 'text': 'depending on how you look at it in MAGA'}, {'start': '709.839', 'end': '712.720', 'text': 'world. I mean, taking somebody who'}, {'start': '711.440', 'end': '714.560', 'text': "couldn't respect the importance of"}, {'start': '712.720', 'end': '717.040', 'text': 'signal chats and then sending them to'}, {'start': '714.560', 'end': '719.279', 'text': 'the UN actually potentially exposes us'}, {'start': '717.040', 'end': '721.200', 'text': "to more security breaches. So, it's a"}, {'start': '719.279', 'end': '722.959', 'text': 'sign that the Trump administration is'}, {'start': '721.200', 'end': '724.640', 'text': 'not completely immune to public'}, {'start': '722.959', 'end': '726.079', 'text': 'sentiment, but not necessarily a sign'}, {'start': '724.640', 'end': '727.600', 'text': "that they've learned their lesson on how"}, {'start': '726.079', 'end': '729.680', 'text': 'to be responsible with national security'}, {'start': '727.600', 'end': '730.720', 'text': 'secrets. Right. I think I think the fact'}, {'start': '729.680', 'end': '732.320', 'text': "that they haven't learned their lesson"}, {'start': '730.720', 'end': '734.560', 'text': 'because they have not cordoned this'}, {'start': '732.320', 'end': '736.240', 'text': 'person off even as he was busted by by'}, {'start': '734.560', 'end': '738.800', 'text': 'the Reuters photographer using signal'}, {'start': '736.240', 'end': '741.600', 'text': 'again in a public setting. forget the'}, {'start': '738.800', 'end': '743.120', 'text': "other protocols. Uh we're all around the"}, {'start': '741.600', 'end': '745.120', 'text': 'cameras and as journalists, we love'}, {'start': '743.120', 'end': '746.720', 'text': 'getting new information. So, uh within'}, {'start': '745.120', 'end': '748.079', 'text': 'reason, I mean, we also have our'}, {'start': '746.720', 'end': '750.480', 'text': "standards and practices. We don't just"}, {'start': '748.079', 'end': '753.040', 'text': 'take any phone photo we see and throw it'}, {'start': '750.480', 'end': '754.720', 'text': 'up there. Uh but, uh we love getting'}, {'start': '753.040', 'end': '756.880', 'text': 'information, but this would seem to be'}, {'start': '754.720', 'end': '758.639', 'text': 'incompetence, not a choice to share it.'}, {'start': '756.880', 'end': '759.920', 'text': "Having said that, uh Jason, I'll let you"}, {'start': '758.639', 'end': '762.880', 'text': 'continue and then bring Sabrina in who'}, {'start': '759.920', 'end': '764.959', 'text': 'has a lot of background here. Um'}, {'start': '762.880', 'end': '767.120', 'text': 'politically, they view it as a demotion'}, {'start': '764.959', 'end': '770.560', 'text': "because they're not into the UN. NSA"}, {'start': '767.120', 'end': '772.320', 'text': 'they view as as a bigger thing'}, {'start': '770.560', 'end': '775.120', 'text': "and and that's the thing you know it is"}, {'start': '772.320', 'end': '776.959', 'text': 'it is a reflection of the failure of'}, {'start': '775.120', 'end': '778.800', 'text': 'this administration to recognize that'}, {'start': '776.959', 'end': '780.240', 'text': "the United States and mind you they're"}, {'start': '778.800', 'end': '782.000', 'text': 'doing everything in their power to make'}, {'start': '780.240', 'end': '783.519', 'text': "sure we don't remain a global power but"}, {'start': '782.000', 'end': '786.000', 'text': 'the United States is still a global'}, {'start': '783.519', 'end': '787.920', 'text': 'power and therefore moving from a'}, {'start': '786.000', 'end': '790.079', 'text': 'domestic position to the United Nations'}, {'start': '787.920', 'end': '792.079', 'text': 'should be seen as a promotion. The idea'}, {'start': '790.079', 'end': '793.680', 'text': "of taking somebody who's incompetent and"}, {'start': '792.079', 'end': '795.680', 'text': 'now putting them in a place where their'}, {'start': '793.680', 'end': '798.240', 'text': 'incompetence can be on display for the'}, {'start': '795.680', 'end': '800.480', 'text': 'entire world, including our enemies, is'}, {'start': '798.240', 'end': '802.000', 'text': 'not good decision-making. Certainly from'}, {'start': '800.480', 'end': '804.320', 'text': 'a president who always claimed that he'}, {'start': '802.000', 'end': '805.440', 'text': 'hires the best people. Uh, now Sabrina,'}, {'start': '804.320', 'end': '808.480', 'text': "you know why you're one of the perfect"}, {'start': '805.440', 'end': '810.560', 'text': 'guests for this, right? I think I have'}, {'start': '808.480', 'end': '812.800', 'text': "an idea. Yeah, I mean, you're at the"}, {'start': '810.560', 'end': '814.959', 'text': 'intersection. You deal with national'}, {'start': '812.800', 'end': '817.120', 'text': 'security reporters. uh there is of'}, {'start': '814.959', 'end': '818.639', 'text': 'course some public obligation for us to'}, {'start': '817.120', 'end': '820.399', 'text': 'know about what the Pentagon and the'}, {'start': '818.639', 'end': '823.839', 'text': 'intelligence agencies are doing but but'}, {'start': '820.399', 'end': '825.360', 'text': 'as as your work you know straddles that'}, {'start': '823.839', 'end': '827.200', 'text': 'uh you have things that are classified'}, {'start': '825.360', 'end': '830.000', 'text': 'or secure and so you dealt at that'}, {'start': '827.200', 'end': '832.320', 'text': "intersection I'm curious what grade uh"}, {'start': '830.000', 'end': '833.839', 'text': 'you would give Waltz uh not only for the'}, {'start': '832.320', 'end': '836.000', 'text': 'original breach but taking into account'}, {'start': '833.839', 'end': '838.079', 'text': "that he didn't seem to improve from it"}, {'start': '836.000', 'end': '839.519', 'text': 'uh to learn from it if you will uh what'}, {'start': '838.079', 'end': '841.920', 'text': 'grade do you give his conduct and where'}, {'start': '839.519', 'end': '844.399', 'text': "do we go from here? Well, look, I'm"}, {'start': '841.920', 'end': '845.920', 'text': 'certainly not a professor here, but um I'}, {'start': '844.399', 'end': '847.680', 'text': "think there's c there's there was"}, {'start': '845.920', 'end': '849.199', 'text': 'already room for improvement and Mike'}, {'start': '847.680', 'end': '851.360', 'text': 'Walls already showed that he failed at'}, {'start': '849.199', 'end': '853.440', 'text': 'that. Um I mean, starting that signal'}, {'start': '851.360', 'end': '856.000', 'text': 'thread, adding the reporter, of course,'}, {'start': '853.440', 'end': '857.600', 'text': 'that is a you know, problem one. But I'}, {'start': '856.000', 'end': '859.440', 'text': 'think, you know, the even though Mike'}, {'start': '857.600', 'end': '861.519', 'text': 'Walls has now been fired and moved out'}, {'start': '859.440', 'end': '864.639', 'text': 'of his position or maybe, you know,'}, {'start': '861.519', 'end': '866.240', 'text': 'promoted in some way um into the UN, um'}, {'start': '864.639', 'end': '868.320', 'text': 'the person that really committed the'}, {'start': '866.240', 'end': '870.079', 'text': 'crime here was Pete Hegathth. I mean,'}, {'start': '868.320', 'end': '872.720', 'text': 'you have to remember that it was Hegth'}, {'start': '870.079', 'end': '875.279', 'text': 'who put classified information about a'}, {'start': '872.720', 'end': '877.199', 'text': "military operation that hadn't started"}, {'start': '875.279', 'end': '879.040', 'text': "into that chat. 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Yeah. Uh Jason, I'}, {'start': '907.839', 'end': '912.560', 'text': 'mentioned the wider mood out there. you'}, {'start': '910.560', 'end': '914.240', 'text': 'know, uh, we can always aim for the'}, {'start': '912.560', 'end': '916.320', 'text': 'stars and say in a perfect civic'}, {'start': '914.240', 'end': '918.079', 'text': 'democracy, everyone would be informed'}, {'start': '916.320', 'end': '920.079', 'text': 'and following the facts and and, you'}, {'start': '918.079', 'end': '921.920', 'text': 'know, reasoning out Jeffersonian debates'}, {'start': '920.079', 'end': '923.680', 'text': "all the time. But that's not reality."}, {'start': '921.920', 'end': '925.920', 'text': 'People are more distracted than ever,'}, {'start': '923.680', 'end': '927.760', 'text': 'the media ecosystem, we know. Um, and'}, {'start': '925.920', 'end': '929.360', 'text': 'yet the economy is something you cannot'}, {'start': '927.760', 'end': '931.120', 'text': "avoid. I don't know about you, I have"}, {'start': '929.360', 'end': '932.720', 'text': 'some friends who say, "Oh, yeah, you do'}, {'start': '931.120', 'end': '934.800', 'text': 'the news." Like, I try to avoid all'}, {'start': '932.720', 'end': '936.639', 'text': "news. And I'm like, I get it. I could"}, {'start': '934.800', 'end': '939.600', 'text': 'see how that could be a nice week as a'}, {'start': '936.639', 'end': '942.160', 'text': "short-term solution. Um, you can't avoid"}, {'start': '939.600', 'end': '943.920', 'text': "the economy uh if you're working and"}, {'start': '942.160', 'end': '948.000', 'text': 'living in the United States. Uh, here is'}, {'start': '943.920', 'end': '949.920', 'text': 'Fallon joking about the polling.'}, {'start': '948.000', 'end': '952.079', 'text': 'Trump claimed that egg prices are down,'}, {'start': '949.920', 'end': '954.079', 'text': 'gasoline is down, and groceries are'}, {'start': '952.079', 'end': '955.360', 'text': 'down. Then a staffer said, "Sir, those'}, {'start': '954.079', 'end': '956.600', 'text': 'charts are your approval rating." He'}, {'start': '955.360', 'end': '958.880', 'text': 'said,'}, {'start': '956.600', 'end': '961.040', 'text': '"Oh, uh, they\'re sinking together.'}, {'start': '958.880', 'end': '962.720', 'text': "That's a joke. But they're also sinking"}, {'start': '961.040', 'end': '965.759', 'text': "together. That's the reality because of"}, {'start': '962.720', 'end': '967.759', 'text': 'how people live." No, Jason.'}, {'start': '965.759', 'end': '969.440', 'text': "Yes. And and and here's the thing. The"}, {'start': '967.759', 'end': '970.880', 'text': 'Trump administration is going to try and'}, {'start': '969.440', 'end': '972.320', 'text': "spin this, right? They're going to say,"}, {'start': '970.880', 'end': '973.680', 'text': "as Fallon was joking, oh, there's"}, {'start': '972.320', 'end': '974.959', 'text': "there's a little bit of shrinkage in the"}, {'start': '973.680', 'end': '976.160', 'text': "economy. Not that there's anything wrong"}, {'start': '974.959', 'end': '977.519', 'text': 'with that, right? They think they can'}, {'start': '976.160', 'end': '979.759', 'text': "spend their way out of it. But here's"}, {'start': '977.519', 'end': '981.279', 'text': "the thing about the economy. You can't"}, {'start': '979.759', 'end': '983.120', 'text': "because it's the thing that even people"}, {'start': '981.279', 'end': '985.279', 'text': 'who avoid news, as you mentioned, have'}, {'start': '983.120', 'end': '987.839', 'text': "to deal with. It's not just egg prices."}, {'start': '985.279', 'end': '989.600', 'text': "It's housing. It's the lack of housing"}, {'start': '987.839', 'end': '991.360', 'text': "that we're having and the slowdown in"}, {'start': '989.600', 'end': '992.720', 'text': 'housing production because you have so'}, {'start': '991.360', 'end': '994.560', 'text': 'many people who are migrant workers who'}, {'start': '992.720', 'end': '996.720', 'text': "aren't working anymore. It's what you're"}, {'start': '994.560', 'end': '998.079', 'text': 'hearing now about organizations and'}, {'start': '996.720', 'end': '999.680', 'text': "companies saying we're not going to"}, {'start': '998.079', 'end': '1001.839', 'text': 'order products for Christmas. The'}, {'start': '999.680', 'end': '1003.680', 'text': 'slowdown has already started to happen.'}, {'start': '1001.839', 'end': '1005.120', 'text': 'This administration just fails to be in'}, {'start': '1003.680', 'end': '1006.639', 'text': 'touch with the reality of Americans. And'}, {'start': '1005.120', 'end': '1008.240', 'text': 'when this hits in the summer, when'}, {'start': '1006.639', 'end': '1009.920', 'text': 'people are not taking vacations, when'}, {'start': '1008.240', 'end': '1011.120', 'text': 'summer camps are scaled back, when'}, {'start': '1009.920', 'end': '1012.560', 'text': "people are saying, you know what, we're"}, {'start': '1011.120', 'end': '1014.079', 'text': 'going to order pizza at home instead of'}, {'start': '1012.560', 'end': '1015.839', 'text': "going out to dinner. It's going to be"}, {'start': '1014.079', 'end': '1016.959', 'text': 'impossible for Trump to spend this, and'}, {'start': '1015.839', 'end': '1019.680', 'text': "it's going to be impossible for members"}, {'start': '1016.959', 'end': '1022.000', 'text': 'of Congress to hide from it in 2026.'}, {'start': '1019.680', 'end': '1023.440', 'text': 'Yeah, I hear you on that. Uh Sabrina,'}, {'start': '1022.000', 'end': '1025.199', 'text': 'while we have your expertise, I wanted'}, {'start': '1023.440', 'end': '1028.319', 'text': 'to to put up the headline that you have'}, {'start': '1025.199', 'end': '1029.760', 'text': 'to go back a long ways uh to find a time'}, {'start': '1028.319', 'end': '1031.199', 'text': 'where we had a secretary of state sort'}, {'start': '1029.760', 'end': '1034.160', 'text': 'of doing double duty. It has happened.'}, {'start': '1031.199', 'end': '1037.480', 'text': 'Kissinger did it uh as NSA. Uh I think'}, {'start': '1034.160', 'end': '1037.480', 'text': 'we have that.'}, {'start': '1037.839', 'end': '1041.600', 'text': 'Yeah. Notes Rubio will hold both'}, {'start': '1039.760', 'end': '1043.919', 'text': 'positions. Something no officer has done'}, {'start': '1041.600', 'end': '1045.520', 'text': 'simultaneously uh since Kissinger. Uh'}, {'start': '1043.919', 'end': '1048.440', 'text': 'which he did under Nixon and Ford. He'}, {'start': '1045.520', 'end': '1051.840', 'text': "was a, let's just say, he was a"}, {'start': '1048.440', 'end': '1054.080', 'text': 'expansive type of diplomat. Um, but that'}, {'start': '1051.840', 'end': '1055.600', 'text': 'was more of his power grab as well. If'}, {'start': '1054.080', 'end': '1058.320', 'text': 'you look at history here, it seems more'}, {'start': '1055.600', 'end': '1060.480', 'text': 'like just, hey, we had a spot open. Um,'}, {'start': '1058.320', 'end': '1062.640', 'text': 'do you have any thoughts on on that'}, {'start': '1060.480', 'end': '1065.600', 'text': 'structure? Whether Rubio wants it or is'}, {'start': '1062.640', 'end': '1068.320', 'text': 'up to it, is that a good idea uh on the'}, {'start': '1065.600', 'end': '1070.720', 'text': "policy side? Well, I he's not just doing"}, {'start': '1068.320', 'end': '1072.160', 'text': "double duty. He's not just acting as the"}, {'start': '1070.720', 'end': '1073.520', 'text': 'national security adviser and the'}, {'start': '1072.160', 'end': '1075.520', 'text': "secretary of state. He's also the"}, {'start': '1073.520', 'end': '1077.840', 'text': "administrator for USA ID that they've"}, {'start': '1075.520', 'end': '1080.240', 'text': 'now completely disbanded. So he has a'}, {'start': '1077.840', 'end': '1082.400', 'text': 'lot of responsibility on his plate. Um'}, {'start': '1080.240', 'end': '1084.480', 'text': 'that is not a you know those three jobs'}, {'start': '1082.400', 'end': '1086.160', 'text': 'are usually uh represented by three'}, {'start': '1084.480', 'end': '1087.919', 'text': 'different individuals. I think what'}, {'start': '1086.160', 'end': '1090.320', 'text': 'matters is is how long is this going to'}, {'start': '1087.919', 'end': '1092.240', 'text': 'be an interim position for Marco Rubio.'}, {'start': '1090.320', 'end': '1094.400', 'text': "Um it's not sustainable for someone to"}, {'start': '1092.240', 'end': '1096.799', 'text': 'have that position um for an extended'}, {'start': '1094.400', 'end': '1098.559', 'text': 'period of time. It just the world events'}, {'start': '1096.799', 'end': '1100.400', 'text': "just don't allow for that. and to have"}, {'start': '1098.559', 'end': '1102.240', 'text': 'the national security adviser, you know,'}, {'start': '1100.400', 'end': '1103.760', 'text': 'that person is with the president pretty'}, {'start': '1102.240', 'end': '1106.000', 'text': 'much at all times and traveling with the'}, {'start': '1103.760', 'end': '1109.039', 'text': 'president. The secretary of state has'}, {'start': '1106.000', 'end': '1110.799', 'text': 'that ability to be abroad and away from'}, {'start': '1109.039', 'end': '1112.400', 'text': 'the administration and engaging on parts'}, {'start': '1110.799', 'end': '1113.840', 'text': "of the administration's behalf because"}, {'start': '1112.400', 'end': '1115.280', 'text': "they're not tied to the president all"}, {'start': '1113.840', 'end': '1116.720', 'text': "the time. So, I don't know how this"}, {'start': '1115.280', 'end': '1119.360', 'text': "balance is going to work. I think it's"}, {'start': '1116.720', 'end': '1121.600', 'text': 'how long really Marco Rubio can occupy'}, {'start': '1119.360', 'end': '1123.600', 'text': 'that interim position for. I would hope'}, {'start': '1121.600', 'end': '1124.960', 'text': "it's not for that long because at the"}, {'start': '1123.600', 'end': '1127.280', 'text': 'end of the day, the Secretary of State'}, {'start': '1124.960', 'end': '1129.280', 'text': 'position is so important and needs the'}, {'start': '1127.280', 'end': '1132.400', 'text': 'full attention of that individual at all'}, {'start': '1129.280', 'end': '1134.480', 'text': 'times. Yeah. Uh Sabrina and Jason on all'}, {'start': '1132.400', 'end': '1137.200', 'text': 'the above. Thank you. Uh we have a lot'}, {'start': '1134.480', 'end': '1140.160', 'text': 'coming up. We have Tesla looking at now'}, {'start': '1137.200', 'end': '1141.679', 'text': 'getting a new CEO instead of Musk. We'}, {'start': '1140.160', 'end': '1143.280', 'text': 'have our special guest Ron and Santa'}, {'start': '1141.679', 'end': '1144.799', 'text': "here on that and what's next in the"}, {'start': '1143.280', 'end': '1147.840', 'text': "Trump economy. And if you've seen the"}, {'start': '1144.799', 'end': '1151.679', 'text': 'tease box, as we call it, we also have'}, {'start': '1147.840', 'end': '1153.280', 'text': 'this special guest coming up.'}, {'start': '1151.679', 'end': '1155.120', 'text': 'Maybe we need to talk about the'}, {'start': '1153.280', 'end': '1156.720', 'text': 'president and his golfing habits. When'}, {'start': '1155.120', 'end': '1158.720', 'text': 'we start talking about things that look'}, {'start': '1156.720', 'end': '1160.160', 'text': 'like evidence, they want to act like'}, {'start': '1158.720', 'end': '1162.559', 'text': "they blind. They don't know what this"}, {'start': '1160.160', 'end': '1165.679', 'text': 'is. These are our national secrets. He'}, {'start': '1162.559', 'end': '1167.760', 'text': 'decided that he was going to golf as the'}, {'start': '1165.679', 'end': '1170.480', 'text': "uh markets were tanking. I can't tell if"}, {'start': '1167.760', 'end': '1172.400', 'text': "y'all are for anything other than"}, {'start': '1170.480', 'end': '1174.480', 'text': 'obstruction and cruelty. He wanted to'}, {'start': '1172.400', 'end': '1176.240', 'text': 'play games while the rest of us are'}, {'start': '1174.480', 'end': '1178.559', 'text': 'really trying to make sure that we can'}, {'start': '1176.240', 'end': '1180.760', 'text': 'serve the American people.'}, {'start': '1178.559', 'end': '1183.360', 'text': 'Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett making'}, {'start': '1180.760', 'end': '1186.320', 'text': "waves, taking names. It's her beat"}, {'start': '1183.360', 'end': '1186.320', 'text': "debut. That's coming up"}, {'start': '1190.280', 'end': '1195.840', 'text': 'tonight. Do you ever feel like more'}, {'start': '1193.200', 'end': '1198.240', 'text': 'stuff happens quicker than before? We'}, {'start': '1195.840', 'end': '1199.679', 'text': "do. And I'm going to show you why that"}, {'start': '1198.240', 'end': '1201.440', 'text': 'seems to be true. Because if someone'}, {'start': '1199.679', 'end': '1203.120', 'text': 'would have told you a year ago the'}, {'start': '1201.440', 'end': '1204.720', 'text': 'richest person in the world was going to'}, {'start': '1203.120', 'end': '1207.520', 'text': 'take a big role in the campaign and then'}, {'start': '1204.720', 'end': '1209.679', 'text': 'in the government but not actually'}, {'start': '1207.520', 'end': '1212.160', 'text': 'follow any ethics or disclosure rules'}, {'start': '1209.679', 'end': '1214.160', 'text': 'and then jump out of the government and'}, {'start': '1212.160', 'end': '1216.160', 'text': 'then lose hundred billion dollars. That'}, {'start': '1214.160', 'end': '1218.480', 'text': 'would be a lot. Now look at the Wall'}, {'start': '1216.160', 'end': '1220.640', 'text': "Street Journal's reporting a bombshell"}, {'start': '1218.480', 'end': '1223.039', 'text': 'about who you can probably guess I was'}, {'start': '1220.640', 'end': '1225.360', 'text': 'referring to billionaire Elon Musk. The'}, {'start': '1223.039', 'end': '1227.280', 'text': "Journal reports Tesla's board has"}, {'start': '1225.360', 'end': '1230.880', 'text': 'already opened a formal search to'}, {'start': '1227.280', 'end': '1232.960', 'text': 'replace him as CEO because that is their'}, {'start': '1230.880', 'end': '1234.559', 'text': 'fiduciary duty if you want to use the'}, {'start': '1232.960', 'end': '1237.039', 'text': 'technical term. They have an obligation'}, {'start': '1234.559', 'end': '1239.600', 'text': "to run the company well and he's wiped"}, {'start': '1237.039', 'end': '1242.720', 'text': 'out about a third of its value while'}, {'start': '1239.600', 'end': '1244.400', 'text': 'busily doing other jobs. Quote, Musk'}, {'start': '1242.720', 'end': '1246.240', 'text': 'confided to someone close to him that he'}, {'start': '1244.400', 'end': '1247.919', 'text': 'was frustrated to still be working'}, {'start': '1246.240', 'end': '1251.760', 'text': 'non-stop at the company he no longer'}, {'start': '1247.919', 'end': '1253.400', 'text': 'wanted to be CEO of Tesla. Is this any'}, {'start': '1251.760', 'end': '1255.679', 'text': 'way to run a'}, {'start': '1253.400', 'end': '1257.280', 'text': "business? He's so rich, he gets away"}, {'start': '1255.679', 'end': '1258.400', 'text': "with a lot. We've seen that. 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The Wall Street Journal is very'}, {'start': '1277.760', 'end': '1280.640', 'text': 'reputable, but they are publicly saying'}, {'start': '1279.120', 'end': '1282.880', 'text': 'they deny it. So, I want you to know'}, {'start': '1280.640', 'end': '1284.960', 'text': 'that as you make sense of the different'}, {'start': '1282.880', 'end': '1286.480', 'text': 'accounts, it has been a tough couple'}, {'start': '1284.960', 'end': '1288.880', 'text': "months for the car company. Tesla's"}, {'start': '1286.480', 'end': '1290.640', 'text': 'stock, as mentioned, crashing, losing a'}, {'start': '1288.880', 'end': '1293.280', 'text': "third of its value since Trump's"}, {'start': '1290.640', 'end': '1295.360', 'text': "inauguration alone. Tesla's Cyber Trucks"}, {'start': '1293.280', 'end': '1297.600', 'text': 'were ultimately recalled in March'}, {'start': '1295.360', 'end': '1300.400', 'text': 'because of big problems like the'}, {'start': '1297.600', 'end': '1302.880', 'text': 'stainless steel panels just falling off.'}, {'start': '1300.400', 'end': '1305.520', 'text': 'You might recall Musk stood in front of'}, {'start': '1302.880', 'end': '1307.840', 'text': 'the White House breaking his vow to not'}, {'start': '1305.520', 'end': '1310.400', 'text': 'abuse his government role to sell his'}, {'start': '1307.840', 'end': '1313.679', 'text': 'stuff. And he said the Cybert trucks,'}, {'start': '1310.400', 'end': '1315.320', 'text': 'they look like the future. Well, not if'}, {'start': '1313.679', 'end': '1318.080', 'text': "the future is a car that doesn't fall"}, {'start': '1315.320', 'end': '1319.919', 'text': 'apart. Last week, Musk did say he will'}, {'start': '1318.080', 'end': '1323.679', 'text': 'be stepping back and away from the Trump'}, {'start': '1319.919', 'end': '1327.640', 'text': 'government project. He also says his car'}, {'start': '1323.679', 'end': '1327.640', 'text': 'company is doing okay.'}, {'start': '1328.559', 'end': '1332.080', 'text': "We're not on the ragged edge of paths,"}, {'start': '1330.320', 'end': '1333.679', 'text': 'not even close. I remain extremely'}, {'start': '1332.080', 'end': '1335.440', 'text': 'optimistic about the future of the'}, {'start': '1333.679', 'end': '1337.600', 'text': 'company.'}, {'start': '1335.440', 'end': '1339.280', 'text': 'Musk told reporters in what was built as'}, {'start': '1337.600', 'end': '1342.080', 'text': 'kind of this exit interview for the'}, {'start': '1339.280', 'end': '1344.679', 'text': 'government role that he has now taken a'}, {'start': '1342.080', 'end': '1347.440', 'text': "look back over what he's accomplished to"}, {'start': '1344.679', 'end': '1349.799', 'text': 'try to limit what he called, remember,'}, {'start': '1347.440', 'end': '1352.640', 'text': 'waste, fraud, and abuse by the federal'}, {'start': '1349.799', 'end': '1354.400', 'text': "government. Here's what he says. Quote,"}, {'start': '1352.640', 'end': '1356.559', 'text': "I think we've been effective, not as"}, {'start': '1354.400', 'end': '1360.440', 'text': "effective as I'd like. We're probably"}, {'start': '1356.559', 'end': '1365.240', 'text': 'getting things right 70 to 80% of the'}, {'start': '1360.440', 'end': '1369.760', 'text': 'time. Now, in certain fields and certain'}, {'start': '1365.240', 'end': '1371.600', 'text': 'businesses, 70% is just fine. But if you'}, {'start': '1369.760', 'end': '1372.880', 'text': 'follow the news, as I bet you do, if'}, {'start': '1371.600', 'end': '1374.799', 'text': "you're hearing my voice, you know that"}, {'start': '1372.880', 'end': '1377.360', 'text': "in government, when you're dealing with,"}, {'start': '1374.799', 'end': '1379.679', 'text': 'say, nuclear safety, something he'}, {'start': '1377.360', 'end': '1381.440', 'text': 'touched on, or the security of'}, {'start': '1379.679', 'end': '1384.400', 'text': "everyone's social security numbers,"}, {'start': '1381.440', 'end': '1389.039', 'text': "something he interfered with, or I don't"}, {'start': '1384.400', 'end': '1391.039', 'text': 'know, whether baby formula is safe, 70%'}, {'start': '1389.039', 'end': '1393.039', 'text': "doesn't cut it. You cannot be a"}, {'start': '1391.039', 'end': '1396.080', 'text': 'government safety regulator and have a'}, {'start': '1393.039', 'end': '1398.960', 'text': 'third of the nukes or the baby formula'}, {'start': '1396.080', 'end': '1401.360', 'text': 'go out there in a dangerous way.'}, {'start': '1398.960', 'end': '1402.799', 'text': 'It is not a statistic that anyone with'}, {'start': '1401.360', 'end': '1405.039', 'text': 'any government experience would say is'}, {'start': '1402.799', 'end': '1406.559', 'text': 'okay. Now again, being a disruptor in'}, {'start': '1405.039', 'end': '1408.159', 'text': "tech, that's a different thing. And"}, {'start': '1406.559', 'end': '1409.760', 'text': "we've mentioned our coverage that Musk"}, {'start': '1408.159', 'end': '1412.080', 'text': 'has been very effective at building'}, {'start': '1409.760', 'end': '1414.240', 'text': 'companies. Whether he is effective and'}, {'start': '1412.080', 'end': '1416.720', 'text': 'safe running the government is the'}, {'start': '1414.240', 'end': '1418.320', 'text': "current question. He's also lost about"}, {'start': '1416.720', 'end': '1420.400', 'text': 'twice as much of his own personal wealth'}, {'start': '1418.320', 'end': '1424.080', 'text': 'compared to what he says he cut from the'}, {'start': '1420.400', 'end': '1426.799', 'text': 'government. We have also the reports'}, {'start': '1424.080', 'end': '1428.559', 'text': 'that the way he did this, rush, sloppy,'}, {'start': '1426.799', 'end': '1430.799', 'text': 'and at times trying to fire first and'}, {'start': '1428.559', 'end': '1432.240', 'text': 'find out if it was legal later, has cost'}, {'start': '1430.799', 'end': '1434.520', 'text': 'United States government under the Trump'}, {'start': '1432.240', 'end': '1438.240', 'text': 'administration tens of billions of'}, {'start': '1434.520', 'end': '1439.760', 'text': 'dollars. So, what has happened here and'}, {'start': '1438.240', 'end': '1441.120', 'text': 'what will we learn from it in an era'}, {'start': '1439.760', 'end': '1442.960', 'text': 'where some billionaires will look at'}, {'start': '1441.120', 'end': '1444.880', 'text': "this and go, gosh, I don't want to lose"}, {'start': '1442.960', 'end': '1446.799', 'text': 'all my money in politics and stay away'}, {'start': '1444.880', 'end': '1448.799', 'text': 'if they look at the Musk example. But'}, {'start': '1446.799', 'end': '1450.720', 'text': 'others may look at this and go, "Oh, if'}, {'start': '1448.799', 'end': '1452.080', 'text': "you're willing to spend a lot and maybe"}, {'start': '1450.720', 'end': '1453.360', 'text': "you don't care what happens to some of"}, {'start': '1452.080', 'end': '1454.960', 'text': "your money and your businesses, isn't"}, {'start': '1453.360', 'end': '1457.200', 'text': 'that the point of having enough money?'}, {'start': '1454.960', 'end': '1459.200', 'text': 'Will other billionaires be jumping in?"'}, {'start': '1457.200', 'end': '1461.840', 'text': "We want to take this seriously and we've"}, {'start': '1459.200', 'end': '1463.600', 'text': "called in an expert you've probably seen"}, {'start': '1461.840', 'end': '1466.159', 'text': 'on air, Ron and Santa, the finance'}, {'start': '1463.600', 'end': '1470.440', 'text': 'expert, talking about this and the Trump'}, {'start': '1466.159', 'end': '1470.440', 'text': 'economic wos. Next,'}, {'start': '1475.440', 'end': '1479.200', 'text': 'Elon Musk eyes the exits. The Wall'}, {'start': '1477.279', 'end': '1481.440', 'text': "Street Journal reports Tesla's looking"}, {'start': '1479.200', 'end': '1483.919', 'text': 'for a new CEO, which he denies. And'}, {'start': '1481.440', 'end': '1485.279', 'text': "we're joined by CNBC contributor Ron"}, {'start': '1483.919', 'end': '1486.880', 'text': 'Insana. Welcome for being here. Good to'}, {'start': '1485.279', 'end': '1488.400', 'text': 'see you. Great to have you here.'}, {'start': '1486.880', 'end': '1490.080', 'text': 'Appreciate you being here. Look, we want'}, {'start': '1488.400', 'end': '1492.640', 'text': 'to come to you because we often look at'}, {'start': '1490.080', 'end': '1495.120', 'text': 'this through the news politics lens out.'}, {'start': '1492.640', 'end': '1496.559', 'text': 'Uh, but Musk is a business guy first and'}, {'start': '1495.120', 'end': '1497.679', 'text': 'foremost. So, as richest man in the'}, {'start': '1496.559', 'end': '1501.039', 'text': 'world.'}, {'start': '1497.679', 'end': '1502.320', 'text': 'So when you look at this side, how do'}, {'start': '1501.039', 'end': '1504.080', 'text': "you make sense of what we're hearing?"}, {'start': '1502.320', 'end': '1506.640', 'text': 'Well, I think you said it entirely'}, {'start': '1504.080', 'end': '1509.200', 'text': 'accurately. The board of Tesla, whether'}, {'start': '1506.640', 'end': '1510.880', 'text': "it's captive to him or not, has what we"}, {'start': '1509.200', 'end': '1512.480', 'text': 'like to call a fiduciary or'}, {'start': '1510.880', 'end': '1515.279', 'text': 'responsibility or an obligation to'}, {'start': '1512.480', 'end': '1517.840', 'text': 'shareholders to ensure that the CEO does'}, {'start': '1515.279', 'end': '1519.360', 'text': 'his job at least adequately, right, and'}, {'start': '1517.840', 'end': '1520.960', 'text': 'maintains the growth in the company. And'}, {'start': '1519.360', 'end': '1522.159', 'text': "you've seen the stock fall, as you said,"}, {'start': '1520.960', 'end': '1523.840', 'text': 'you know, by a third. It was down as'}, {'start': '1522.159', 'end': '1525.520', 'text': 'much as 60% at one juncture at its'}, {'start': '1523.840', 'end': '1527.600', 'text': 'lowest level. he was down hundred'}, {'start': '1525.520', 'end': '1529.760', 'text': 'billion dollars on uh his overall net'}, {'start': '1527.600', 'end': '1531.840', 'text': 'worth at one point. Sales for Tesla cars'}, {'start': '1529.760', 'end': '1533.600', 'text': 'in Europe and China have fallen off.'}, {'start': '1531.840', 'end': '1535.360', 'text': "They've fallen off in the United States."}, {'start': '1533.600', 'end': '1538.159', 'text': "And so, you know, the company's not"}, {'start': '1535.360', 'end': '1540.559', 'text': 'functioning as as anyone would hope. And'}, {'start': '1538.159', 'end': '1542.000', 'text': 'he clearly has been more than distracted'}, {'start': '1540.559', 'end': '1543.520', 'text': 'uh with his role in the government. And'}, {'start': '1542.000', 'end': '1546.000', 'text': "so, he's also, by the way, running four"}, {'start': '1543.520', 'end': '1547.520', 'text': "other companies. X, he's got SpaceX,"}, {'start': '1546.000', 'end': '1550.640', 'text': "he's got some other companies. He's"}, {'start': '1547.520', 'end': '1554.159', 'text': 'building out Grock, this AI component to'}, {'start': '1550.640', 'end': '1556.159', 'text': 'um to to X. So he is he is unique in a'}, {'start': '1554.159', 'end': '1557.000', 'text': "certain sense. I've never seen anyone"}, {'start': '1556.159', 'end': '1560.320', 'text': 'this'}, {'start': '1557.000', 'end': '1563.159', 'text': 'hyperextended as a CEO in my career. Is'}, {'start': '1560.320', 'end': '1566.080', 'text': 'he overextended? Well, I'}, {'start': '1563.159', 'end': '1567.919', 'text': "mean it's hard to say. I mean and and"}, {'start': '1566.080', 'end': '1570.159', 'text': 'you would think that of any normal'}, {'start': '1567.919', 'end': '1572.720', 'text': "individual. I mean he he's proven to be"}, {'start': '1570.159', 'end': '1574.159', 'text': "like Edison. I didn't call him normal R."}, {'start': '1572.720', 'end': '1575.600', 'text': "Yeah. No, I don't you know but you know"}, {'start': '1574.159', 'end': '1578.000', 'text': 'there are folks like Edison and others'}, {'start': '1575.600', 'end': '1579.679', 'text': 'who have done you know multiple uh'}, {'start': '1578.000', 'end': '1581.760', 'text': 'companies, multiple jobs, created'}, {'start': '1579.679', 'end': '1583.840', 'text': 'multiple things. Um and so in that'}, {'start': '1581.760', 'end': '1586.080', 'text': 'sense, you know, he you can give him'}, {'start': '1583.840', 'end': '1588.640', 'text': 'some breathing space, but yeah, I would'}, {'start': '1586.080', 'end': '1590.799', 'text': 'say that from a um a time perspective'}, {'start': '1588.640', 'end': '1592.640', 'text': 'and an attention perspective, he has to'}, {'start': '1590.799', 'end': '1594.159', 'text': 'be overextended. You cannot do all these'}, {'start': '1592.640', 'end': '1595.760', 'text': 'things and give them your full and'}, {'start': '1594.159', 'end': '1597.679', 'text': "undivided attention so that they're all"}, {'start': '1595.760', 'end': '1599.919', 'text': 'operating at full speed. Now, maybe the'}, {'start': '1597.679', 'end': '1602.320', 'text': 'people underneath him are uh and and at'}, {'start': '1599.919', 'end': '1603.840', 'text': "this juncture, he's just supervising and"}, {'start': '1602.320', 'end': '1605.039', 'text': 'checking in, which is what some of the'}, {'start': '1603.840', 'end': '1607.919', 'text': 'stories indicated, particularly with'}, {'start': '1605.039', 'end': '1610.240', 'text': 'regard to Tesla. Uh but but no, you'}, {'start': '1607.919', 'end': '1612.640', 'text': "can't really do what he's done. and and"}, {'start': '1610.240', 'end': '1614.400', 'text': 'keep your eye on every facet of of of'}, {'start': '1612.640', 'end': '1615.919', 'text': 'the business underneath you, right? And'}, {'start': '1614.400', 'end': '1617.919', 'text': 'when he joined government here, he had'}, {'start': '1615.919', 'end': '1621.600', 'text': 'an agenda, right? You can call it a'}, {'start': '1617.919', 'end': '1624.880', 'text': 'gender ideology and it basically argues'}, {'start': '1621.600', 'end': '1628.400', 'text': 'in its core um that government should'}, {'start': '1624.880', 'end': '1631.279', 'text': "run like business um and be lean. That's"}, {'start': '1628.400', 'end': '1634.400', 'text': "that's the idea. And what we're seeing"}, {'start': '1631.279', 'end': '1638.360', 'text': 'with the public response is that pushed'}, {'start': '1634.400', 'end': '1640.080', 'text': 'to its max, most people, including'}, {'start': '1638.360', 'end': '1642.640', 'text': 'self-identified independents and'}, {'start': '1640.080', 'end': '1644.000', 'text': 'conservatives do not agree. Right? A'}, {'start': '1642.640', 'end': '1646.159', 'text': 'dash of business, people go, "Oh, I'}, {'start': '1644.000', 'end': '1647.679', 'text': 'don\'t like the DMV." I get it, right?'}, {'start': '1646.159', 'end': '1650.559', 'text': 'You know, there you can name businesses'}, {'start': '1647.679', 'end': '1653.440', 'text': 'that are more customer by the way, not'}, {'start': '1650.559', 'end': '1655.919', 'text': "local. Uh, but what he's done has"}, {'start': '1653.440', 'end': '1657.679', 'text': 'actually in a 100 days provoked a'}, {'start': '1655.919', 'end': '1659.279', 'text': 'backlash where people say no. Whether'}, {'start': '1657.679', 'end': '1661.919', 'text': 'that comes to the Social Security office'}, {'start': '1659.279', 'end': '1665.679', 'text': 'being open or the error rate on nuclear'}, {'start': '1661.919', 'end': '1667.279', 'text': 'review or the breaches on on personal'}, {'start': '1665.679', 'end': '1668.880', 'text': 'data. And then when you come to the'}, {'start': '1667.279', 'end': '1671.840', 'text': 'firings, this is a really interesting'}, {'start': '1668.880', 'end': '1673.360', 'text': 'stat. Uh this is courtesy Forbes. A lot'}, {'start': '1671.840', 'end': '1674.880', 'text': "of businesses, right, if you're not"}, {'start': '1673.360', 'end': '1676.399', 'text': 'doing the job, they get you out of'}, {'start': '1674.880', 'end': '1679.760', 'text': 'there. People say, "Oh, sometimes that\'s'}, {'start': '1676.399', 'end': '1683.120', 'text': 'necessary." Yes. Well, under Musk, our'}, {'start': '1679.760', 'end': '1686.399', 'text': 'government is now cutting more jobs than'}, {'start': '1683.120', 'end': '1687.919', 'text': 'any other sector. Yeah, I repeat any'}, {'start': '1686.399', 'end': '1689.919', 'text': "other business and it's starting to show"}, {'start': '1687.919', 'end': '1691.520', 'text': 'up in the economic data as well. So, so'}, {'start': '1689.919', 'end': '1693.200', 'text': 'there are plenty of businesses that cut'}, {'start': '1691.520', 'end': '1694.720', 'text': 'some of the people some of the time to'}, {'start': '1693.200', 'end': '1697.520', 'text': 'paraphrase Bob Marley if you know that'}, {'start': '1694.720', 'end': '1699.200', 'text': "one. Yeah. Um he's cutting as many of"}, {'start': '1697.520', 'end': '1701.200', 'text': 'the people as he can as much of the'}, {'start': '1699.200', 'end': '1703.440', 'text': 'time. So now the government is'}, {'start': '1701.200', 'end': '1705.760', 'text': 'responsible for more job cuts than any'}, {'start': '1703.440', 'end': '1707.120', 'text': 'other sector. Is that a good thing? Is'}, {'start': '1705.760', 'end': '1708.880', 'text': "that sustainable? Well, number one, it's"}, {'start': '1707.120', 'end': '1710.720', 'text': "indiscriminate and it's done without"}, {'start': '1708.880', 'end': '1712.880', 'text': 'real care for how services are delivered'}, {'start': '1710.720', 'end': '1714.080', 'text': 'by the government. One individual once'}, {'start': '1712.880', 'end': '1715.360', 'text': 'described the the United States'}, {'start': '1714.080', 'end': '1716.720', 'text': 'government as an insurance company with'}, {'start': '1715.360', 'end': '1719.520', 'text': 'an army, right? I mean, you have a lot'}, {'start': '1716.720', 'end': '1720.880', 'text': 'of uh different aspects of of our'}, {'start': '1719.520', 'end': '1722.480', 'text': 'government that really are there to'}, {'start': '1720.880', 'end': '1724.159', 'text': 'serve individuals in a variety of ways'}, {'start': '1722.480', 'end': '1726.000', 'text': 'from Medicare to social security to'}, {'start': '1724.159', 'end': '1727.840', 'text': 'other uh services that that are'}, {'start': '1726.000', 'end': '1729.360', 'text': 'necessary. And there are two facious'}, {'start': '1727.840', 'end': '1730.559', 'text': 'assumptions about government as well.'}, {'start': '1729.360', 'end': '1732.159', 'text': 'One, that you can run it like a'}, {'start': '1730.559', 'end': '1734.399', 'text': 'business, which is a profit and loss'}, {'start': '1732.159', 'end': '1735.919', 'text': 'making enterprise. Or two, that the'}, {'start': '1734.399', 'end': '1737.440', 'text': "government's budget is like a household"}, {'start': '1735.919', 'end': '1739.279', 'text': 'budget, which it is not. the government'}, {'start': '1737.440', 'end': '1740.640', 'text': 'can print money, can borrow money um'}, {'start': '1739.279', 'end': '1743.039', 'text': 'extensively and do things that'}, {'start': '1740.640', 'end': '1744.799', 'text': 'households cannot do. And so if you use'}, {'start': '1743.039', 'end': '1747.039', 'text': 'either approach and take this kind of'}, {'start': '1744.799', 'end': '1748.640', 'text': 'slash and burn approach that Musk and'}, {'start': '1747.039', 'end': '1750.240', 'text': 'and the Doge folks have taken to you,'}, {'start': '1748.640', 'end': '1751.840', 'text': "the US government, they're doing it"}, {'start': '1750.240', 'end': '1753.760', 'text': 'without consideration as to how it'}, {'start': '1751.840', 'end': '1755.440', 'text': 'actually affects the individuals that'}, {'start': '1753.760', 'end': '1757.200', 'text': 'the government serves. Now, if you tried'}, {'start': '1755.440', 'end': '1759.120', 'text': 'to do that with your business and you'}, {'start': '1757.200', 'end': '1760.640', 'text': 'showed no care for your customers and'}, {'start': '1759.120', 'end': '1762.880', 'text': 'you just slashed and burned the company'}, {'start': '1760.640', 'end': '1764.080', 'text': 'and and basically rated it for its'}, {'start': '1762.880', 'end': '1766.640', 'text': "available cash, which they're not even"}, {'start': '1764.080', 'end': '1767.919', 'text': 'doing here, um you you would be undoing'}, {'start': '1766.640', 'end': '1770.240', 'text': 'all the good work that a business has'}, {'start': '1767.919', 'end': '1772.240', 'text': 'done and and I would say a large number'}, {'start': '1770.240', 'end': '1773.679', 'text': 'of individuals would argue that this is'}, {'start': '1772.240', 'end': '1775.279', 'text': 'not the way you run the government. You'}, {'start': '1773.679', 'end': '1777.200', 'text': 'do some analysis of it. In fact, you can'}, {'start': '1775.279', 'end': '1779.279', 'text': 'go back all right to, you know, 2010'}, {'start': '1777.200', 'end': '1781.919', 'text': 'when the Simpson BS commission released'}, {'start': '1779.279', 'end': '1783.600', 'text': 'its findings on how to rights. No one'}, {'start': '1781.919', 'end': '1785.200', 'text': 'talks about that anymore. And it was a'}, {'start': '1783.600', 'end': '1787.360', 'text': 'beautiful document. It was really well'}, {'start': '1785.200', 'end': '1789.039', 'text': 'done. It was really well thought out.'}, {'start': '1787.360', 'end': '1791.120', 'text': 'You could, you know, at least work on'}, {'start': '1789.039', 'end': '1792.960', 'text': 'the budget deficit, rightize government,'}, {'start': '1791.120', 'end': '1794.640', 'text': 'focus on priorities that are helpful to'}, {'start': '1792.960', 'end': '1796.240', 'text': "the American people. And that's the"}, {'start': '1794.640', 'end': '1798.240', 'text': "exact opposite of what's been done by"}, {'start': '1796.240', 'end': '1800.320', 'text': "Musk and his team. Yeah. And while he's"}, {'start': '1798.240', 'end': '1802.640', 'text': "he's made his point with his shock and"}, {'start': '1800.320', 'end': '1804.080', 'text': "awe, in no way, and we've discussed this"}, {'start': '1802.640', 'end': '1806.000', 'text': 'in the executive order context as well,'}, {'start': '1804.080', 'end': '1808.080', 'text': "and maybe for his foes it's a good"}, {'start': '1806.000', 'end': '1809.760', 'text': 'thing, but in no way has he put forward,'}, {'start': '1808.080', 'end': '1813.200', 'text': 'like you said, a blueprint that gives'}, {'start': '1809.760', 'end': '1816.399', 'text': 'you a 10 or 20 year timeline to actually'}, {'start': '1813.200', 'end': '1818.159', 'text': 'amortize or or save these benefits over'}, {'start': '1816.399', 'end': '1820.480', 'text': 'time. Instead, it was whoever was'}, {'start': '1818.159', 'end': '1822.720', 'text': 'weakest and most vulnerable, see you.'}, {'start': '1820.480', 'end': '1825.120', 'text': "Yeah. uh and then he leaves and and it's"}, {'start': '1822.720', 'end': '1826.640', 'text': 'all left on the table. So, Ron, uh we'}, {'start': '1825.120', 'end': '1828.000', 'text': 'came to you as the the business expert.'}, {'start': '1826.640', 'end': '1828.880', 'text': "We appreciate it and we'll be having you"}, {'start': '1828.000', 'end': '1830.960', 'text': 'back. Thanks for having me. Appreciate'}, {'start': '1828.880', 'end': '1832.880', 'text': 'it. Thank you very much. Uh up next,'}, {'start': '1830.960', 'end': '1836.200', 'text': 'Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett makes her'}, {'start': '1832.880', 'end': '1836.200', 'text': 'beat debut.'}, {'start': '1841.440', 'end': '1845.360', 'text': 'Donald Trump has got to go. Hands off'}, {'start': '1843.760', 'end': '1846.880', 'text': "our democracy. Hands off women's"}, {'start': '1845.360', 'end': '1848.399', 'text': 'healthcare. Hands off. To be honest,'}, {'start': '1846.880', 'end': '1851.440', 'text': "there's too many things to list. Our"}, {'start': '1848.399', 'end': '1853.600', 'text': 'leaders need to stand up to Trump and'}, {'start': '1851.440', 'end': '1855.039', 'text': "get Elon Musk out of our government. I'm"}, {'start': '1853.600', 'end': '1856.960', 'text': 'really afraid for the future of our'}, {'start': '1855.039', 'end': '1859.919', 'text': 'country. And the only way to make that'}, {'start': '1856.960', 'end': '1861.840', 'text': 'known is by standing together. Growing'}, {'start': '1859.919', 'end': '1863.840', 'text': "protests and push back. We're seeing a"}, {'start': '1861.840', 'end': '1865.760', 'text': 'lot more than is typically seen in an'}, {'start': '1863.840', 'end': '1868.080', 'text': "administration's first 100 days. Many"}, {'start': '1865.760', 'end': '1870.240', 'text': 'mobilizing on Mayday, which is a protest'}, {'start': '1868.080', 'end': '1871.600', 'text': 'for workers rights. The stakes are high.'}, {'start': '1870.240', 'end': '1873.440', 'text': 'And another sign the fight against Trump'}, {'start': '1871.600', 'end': '1875.760', 'text': 'is gaining momentum. As the New York'}, {'start': '1873.440', 'end': '1878.480', 'text': 'Times puts it, one Democrat says the'}, {'start': '1875.760', 'end': '1881.120', 'text': 'party must play hard ball and do its own'}, {'start': '1878.480', 'end': '1884.159', 'text': 'disruption of norms and institutions'}, {'start': '1881.120', 'end': '1886.960', 'text': 'given what they face against Trump as he'}, {'start': '1884.159', 'end': '1889.720', 'text': 'openly says he wants to overthrow the'}, {'start': '1886.960', 'end': '1892.399', 'text': 'United States Constitution and rule past'}, {'start': '1889.720', 'end': '1894.320', 'text': "2029. We're joined now by Democratic"}, {'start': '1892.399', 'end': '1896.399', 'text': 'Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett. Uh'}, {'start': '1894.320', 'end': '1897.840', 'text': "welcome. Hey, it's good to see you. Good"}, {'start': '1896.399', 'end': '1900.399', 'text': 'to have you here in person. Uh welcome'}, {'start': '1897.840', 'end': '1903.200', 'text': "to the beat. Uh we've seen you out there"}, {'start': '1900.399', 'end': '1905.760', 'text': 'um pushing harder than some Democrats.'}, {'start': '1903.200', 'end': '1908.399', 'text': 'Uh what do you see in this mobilization'}, {'start': '1905.760', 'end': '1909.840', 'text': 'right now? And does the elite or'}, {'start': '1908.399', 'end': '1912.720', 'text': 'leadership wing of your party in'}, {'start': '1909.840', 'end': '1914.480', 'text': 'Washington get it yet? Listen, um I got'}, {'start': '1912.720', 'end': '1916.240', 'text': 'to say thank you to the people, right?'}, {'start': '1914.480', 'end': '1918.880', 'text': 'Because this is a grassroots movement'}, {'start': '1916.240', 'end': '1922.559', 'text': 'and the people are saying we are tired'}, {'start': '1918.880', 'end': '1925.120', 'text': 'and um you know whether or not we get it'}, {'start': '1922.559', 'end': '1926.640', 'text': 'um I think that our solutions look a'}, {'start': '1925.120', 'end': '1928.480', 'text': 'little different, right? Like there are'}, {'start': '1926.640', 'end': '1930.559', 'text': 'those within the party that are saying'}, {'start': '1928.480', 'end': '1933.360', 'text': 'things like, "Well, we did not give them'}, {'start': '1930.559', 'end': '1934.720', 'text': 'the middle class agenda. We somehow left'}, {'start': '1933.360', 'end': '1936.559', 'text': 'the middle class." But I\'m like, "We'}, {'start': '1934.720', 'end': '1938.159', 'text': 'never left the middle class." Right? We'}, {'start': '1936.559', 'end': '1939.919', 'text': 'know that this administration, the'}, {'start': '1938.159', 'end': '1941.600', 'text': 'previous administration was trying to'}, {'start': '1939.919', 'end': '1943.840', 'text': 'help out those that were struggling'}, {'start': '1941.600', 'end': '1946.399', 'text': 'under the weight of student loan debt'}, {'start': '1943.840', 'end': '1948.000', 'text': 'and saying if we can help them out, then'}, {'start': '1946.399', 'end': '1950.000', 'text': 'this means that they can go and create'}, {'start': '1948.000', 'end': '1952.000', 'text': 'generational wealth and go buy homes.'}, {'start': '1950.000', 'end': '1953.919', 'text': 'Like they had real solutions. the child'}, {'start': '1952.000', 'end': '1956.559', 'text': 'tax credit where you were getting up to'}, {'start': '1953.919', 'end': '1958.799', 'text': '$300 per child to help you out because'}, {'start': '1956.559', 'end': '1960.399', 'text': 'child care is high and all those things.'}, {'start': '1958.799', 'end': '1962.480', 'text': 'When we look at some of the legislation'}, {'start': '1960.399', 'end': '1964.640', 'text': 'that was thousands of pages long such as'}, {'start': '1962.480', 'end': '1967.039', 'text': 'the Chips and Science Act, states like'}, {'start': '1964.640', 'end': '1970.080', 'text': 'Ohio were able to get a chips'}, {'start': '1967.039', 'end': '1972.240', 'text': 'manufacturing um facility that Samsung'}, {'start': '1970.080', 'end': '1974.559', 'text': 'was bringing in which meant jobs which'}, {'start': '1972.240', 'end': '1976.240', 'text': 'meant manufacturing and so many other'}, {'start': '1974.559', 'end': '1978.559', 'text': 'states were able to benefit. But did we'}, {'start': '1976.240', 'end': '1979.919', 'text': 'communicate it? Yeah. Not really. Did'}, {'start': '1978.559', 'end': '1983.039', 'text': 'people really understand what was'}, {'start': '1979.919', 'end': '1984.159', 'text': 'happening? not per se, right? And so,'}, {'start': '1983.039', 'end': '1985.519', 'text': 'you know, everybody has different'}, {'start': '1984.159', 'end': '1987.440', 'text': 'solutions. So, some people want to dig'}, {'start': '1985.519', 'end': '1989.679', 'text': 'in and say, "Let\'s get to the policy,'}, {'start': '1987.440', 'end': '1991.519', 'text': 'right? But what good is policy if the'}, {'start': '1989.679', 'end': '1994.000', 'text': "people don't understand or know that"}, {'start': '1991.519', 'end': '1996.480', 'text': 'that is what you are going to enact or'}, {'start': '1994.000', 'end': '1998.720', 'text': 'when it comes down to it, we are such a'}, {'start': '1996.480', 'end': '2000.399', 'text': 'big 10 party that we have certain people'}, {'start': '1998.720', 'end': '2002.720', 'text': 'that say, "Well, never mind. I\'m not'}, {'start': '2000.399', 'end': '2004.720', 'text': 'going to push hard for those reforms,'}, {'start': '2002.720', 'end': '2007.039', 'text': 'say by the time we get to the Senate and'}, {'start': '2004.720', 'end': '2009.519', 'text': 'we have to deal with the filibuster."'}, {'start': '2007.039', 'end': '2011.519', 'text': "Uh, Kla Harris spoke out. She's been"}, {'start': '2009.519', 'end': '2013.519', 'text': 'laying pretty low. Uh but she spoke out'}, {'start': '2011.519', 'end': '2015.760', 'text': 'about some of this tension within the'}, {'start': '2013.519', 'end': '2017.919', 'text': 'Democratic party of what you do. Uh and'}, {'start': '2015.760', 'end': '2020.559', 'text': 'and name some names including yours.'}, {'start': '2017.919', 'end': '2022.960', 'text': "Let's take a look."}, {'start': '2020.559', 'end': '2026.559', 'text': 'And I will tell you, the courage of all'}, {'start': '2022.960', 'end': '2029.919', 'text': 'these Americans inspires me to lift up'}, {'start': '2026.559', 'end': '2031.840', 'text': 'voices and advance freedom and justice,'}, {'start': '2029.919', 'end': '2034.960', 'text': 'including congressional leaders like'}, {'start': '2031.840', 'end': '2038.799', 'text': 'Corey Booker, Chris Van Holland, Chris'}, {'start': '2034.960', 'end': '2039.880', 'text': 'Murphy, Jasmine Crockett, all who in'}, {'start': '2038.799', 'end': '2044.919', 'text': 'different'}, {'start': '2039.880', 'end': '2048.879', 'text': 'ways have been speaking with moral'}, {'start': '2044.919', 'end': '2050.639', 'text': 'clarity about this moment.'}, {'start': '2048.879', 'end': '2053.119', 'text': "One difference seems to be whether we're"}, {'start': '2050.639', 'end': '2054.639', 'text': 'after an election where Democrats said'}, {'start': '2053.119', 'end': '2056.800', 'text': 'democracy itself is on the line and'}, {'start': '2054.639', 'end': '2058.480', 'text': "we're facing an autocrat. Uh then do you"}, {'start': '2056.800', 'end': '2059.919', 'text': 'just go back to saying well never mind'}, {'start': '2058.480', 'end': '2061.919', 'text': "we wrote a letter we'll hold a hearing"}, {'start': '2059.919', 'end': '2064.000', 'text': 'and be done with it. Uh then Holland of'}, {'start': '2061.919', 'end': '2066.159', 'text': 'course traveled on that mission. Booker'}, {'start': '2064.000', 'end': '2068.560', 'text': 'we we saw people have se have said that'}, {'start': '2066.159', 'end': '2070.320', 'text': 'you seem to be taking it up a notch.'}, {'start': '2068.560', 'end': '2072.960', 'text': 'Yeah. Um are you guys still though in a'}, {'start': '2070.320', 'end': '2075.679', 'text': 'minority within your party? I mean I'}, {'start': '2072.960', 'end': '2077.919', 'text': 'would say so. I I do believe that. I'}, {'start': '2075.679', 'end': '2079.679', 'text': 'think that everyone is trying to be very'}, {'start': '2077.919', 'end': '2081.520', 'text': 'responsive to their district. And I'}, {'start': '2079.679', 'end': '2083.440', 'text': "can't speak for any other district. I"}, {'start': '2081.520', 'end': '2086.399', 'text': 'can tell you that my district wants me'}, {'start': '2083.440', 'end': '2088.800', 'text': 'to speak out and be loud and be proud at'}, {'start': '2086.399', 'end': '2090.800', 'text': "all times. Um, but you know what? We've"}, {'start': '2088.800', 'end': '2092.320', 'text': 'got lots of great opportunities. And so'}, {'start': '2090.800', 'end': '2093.919', 'text': "I'm looking forward to some of the"}, {'start': '2092.320', 'end': '2096.320', 'text': "things that we're going to do on"}, {'start': '2093.919', 'end': '2098.640', 'text': 'oversight as we continue to push back'}, {'start': '2096.320', 'end': '2101.440', 'text': 'against this administration now that we'}, {'start': '2098.640', 'end': '2104.160', 'text': 'know um that they are doing things such'}, {'start': '2101.440', 'end': '2108.160', 'text': 'as you know snatching people off the'}, {'start': '2104.160', 'end': '2109.599', 'text': 'streets and throwing them down um uh in'}, {'start': '2108.160', 'end': '2111.839', 'text': 'what I would consider to be'}, {'start': '2109.599', 'end': '2113.119', 'text': 'concentration camps or prisons. And'}, {'start': '2111.839', 'end': '2115.440', 'text': "these are people that haven't been"}, {'start': '2113.119', 'end': '2117.119', 'text': "convicted of anything. Um and it's"}, {'start': '2115.440', 'end': '2119.720', 'text': 'wrong. Listen, we have oversight over'}, {'start': '2117.119', 'end': '2122.320', 'text': 'them. If we are in a contract with El'}, {'start': '2119.720', 'end': '2125.200', 'text': 'Salvador, then it is us that have to'}, {'start': '2122.320', 'end': '2127.920', 'text': 'decide as to whether or not they are'}, {'start': '2125.200', 'end': '2130.240', 'text': 'violating human rights. And so we have'}, {'start': '2127.920', 'end': '2132.160', 'text': 'to be given an opportunity to inspect.'}, {'start': '2130.240', 'end': '2133.839', 'text': 'So even if James Comr says, "No,'}, {'start': '2132.160', 'end': '2135.680', 'text': 'Democrats, you can\'t go down there."'}, {'start': '2133.839', 'end': '2137.760', 'text': 'Well, we are elected members of the'}, {'start': '2135.680', 'end': '2139.760', 'text': 'oversight committee. So we should be'}, {'start': '2137.760', 'end': '2141.839', 'text': 'requiring that they turn over reports to'}, {'start': '2139.760', 'end': '2143.760', 'text': "us. Same thing with the FDA is they're"}, {'start': '2141.839', 'end': '2146.000', 'text': "going out and they're firing people and"}, {'start': '2143.760', 'end': '2148.079', 'text': "we don't know what its impact is going"}, {'start': '2146.000', 'end': '2149.680', 'text': 'to be as it relates to our food supply'}, {'start': '2148.079', 'end': '2151.839', 'text': "and they don't want to tell us about it."}, {'start': '2149.680', 'end': '2154.000', 'text': 'Whether or not our food is going to be'}, {'start': '2151.839', 'end': '2156.000', 'text': 'safe, then guess what? We need to make'}, {'start': '2154.000', 'end': '2157.839', 'text': 'sure that we require that they turn'}, {'start': '2156.000', 'end': '2159.599', 'text': 'those documents over to us. And if they'}, {'start': '2157.839', 'end': '2161.280', 'text': "don't, guess what? We need to show up at"}, {'start': '2159.599', 'end': '2164.079', 'text': 'their doors and we need to conduct a'}, {'start': '2161.280', 'end': '2165.520', 'text': 'field hearing right there at FDA. Same'}, {'start': '2164.079', 'end': '2167.599', 'text': 'thing as it relates to the planes that'}, {'start': '2165.520', 'end': '2169.119', 'text': 'are falling out of the sky. We need some'}, {'start': '2167.599', 'end': '2170.800', 'text': 'real transparency and we need some'}, {'start': '2169.119', 'end': '2174.079', 'text': 'honesty and we need to make sure that'}, {'start': '2170.800', 'end': '2176.480', 'text': 'the American people are just as enraged'}, {'start': '2174.079', 'end': '2178.640', 'text': 'as we all should be because this'}, {'start': '2176.480', 'end': '2180.640', 'text': 'administration is truly trying to kill'}, {'start': '2178.640', 'end': '2182.240', 'text': 'us. It feels like all right we got you'}, {'start': '2180.640', 'end': '2183.920', 'text': "on that. Uh there's also the thing in"}, {'start': '2182.240', 'end': '2186.720', 'text': 'life and politics where sometimes things'}, {'start': '2183.920', 'end': '2188.400', 'text': "just work until they don't. Uh and so"}, {'start': '2186.720', 'end': '2191.599', 'text': 'Donald Trump has made all kinds of'}, {'start': '2188.400', 'end': '2193.119', 'text': 'claims and he improved his vote total in'}, {'start': '2191.599', 'end': '2195.040', 'text': 'in November. So you have to look at how'}, {'start': '2193.119', 'end': '2197.839', 'text': 'that worked. And yet in this new town'}, {'start': '2195.040', 'end': '2201.040', 'text': "hall he did uh with Bill O'Reilly, you"}, {'start': '2197.839', 'end': '2202.400', 'text': 'saw some of the the bravado sort of fail'}, {'start': '2201.040', 'end': '2203.760', 'text': "in person. That's why town halls,"}, {'start': '2202.400', 'end': '2205.440', 'text': 'whatever you think of them, like you'}, {'start': '2203.760', 'end': '2206.640', 'text': 'still have people there. They might be'}, {'start': '2205.440', 'end': '2210.079', 'text': 'partisan, but you still get some'}, {'start': '2206.640', 'end': '2211.839', 'text': 'reactions. Take a look at this moment.'}, {'start': '2210.079', 'end': '2213.599', 'text': 'Lee says, "What\'s the biggest mistake'}, {'start': '2211.839', 'end': '2215.440', 'text': "you think you've made in the first 100"}, {'start': '2213.599', 'end': '2217.200', 'text': 'days?" That\'s the toughest question I'}, {'start': '2215.440', 'end': '2219.760', 'text': "can have because I don't really believe"}, {'start': '2217.200', 'end': '2222.480', 'text': "I've made you any mistakes. We're in a"}, {'start': '2219.760', 'end': '2224.560', 'text': "transition period. We're in we're in a"}, {'start': '2222.480', 'end': '2227.040', 'text': 'transition period. I think Lee is'}, {'start': '2224.560', 'end': '2230.240', 'text': 'reassured. I think'}, {'start': '2227.040', 'end': '2231.839', 'text': 'uh there was sort of an audible laughter'}, {'start': '2230.240', 'end': '2234.160', 'text': "and maybe that's how you go with your"}, {'start': '2231.839', 'end': '2235.920', 'text': 'own side, but it was still not'}, {'start': '2234.160', 'end': '2238.400', 'text': 'acceptable. It was not on the level even'}, {'start': '2235.920', 'end': '2240.000', 'text': "in that audience um that he doesn't see"}, {'start': '2238.400', 'end': '2242.079', 'text': "that he's made mistakes. The implication"}, {'start': '2240.000', 'end': '2243.839', 'text': 'being those people think he has made'}, {'start': '2242.079', 'end': '2246.560', 'text': "mistakes. Listen, I'm going tell you"}, {'start': '2243.839', 'end': '2250.320', 'text': 'this. Um, you know, people tried to talk'}, {'start': '2246.560', 'end': '2252.720', 'text': 'about the mental acuity of um, Joe Biden'}, {'start': '2250.320', 'end': '2254.720', 'text': 'and as someone who was able to interact'}, {'start': '2252.720', 'end': '2257.200', 'text': 'with him, I never question his mental'}, {'start': '2254.720', 'end': '2259.040', 'text': 'acuity. But come on now. Come on. Like'}, {'start': '2257.200', 'end': '2262.000', 'text': 'you are crashing the economy. We are'}, {'start': '2259.040', 'end': '2264.400', 'text': 'talking about record crashing of the'}, {'start': '2262.000', 'end': '2266.240', 'text': 'stock market. We are talking about you,'}, {'start': '2264.400', 'end': '2268.320', 'text': 'you just mentioned it, the amount of'}, {'start': '2266.240', 'end': '2270.400', 'text': 'people that he has fired. We are talking'}, {'start': '2268.320', 'end': '2272.160', 'text': 'about people complaining and saying'}, {'start': '2270.400', 'end': '2274.160', 'text': 'there is nothing at the ports. We are'}, {'start': '2272.160', 'end': '2276.320', 'text': 'talking about CEOs coming in and sitting'}, {'start': '2274.160', 'end': '2278.400', 'text': 'down with you and saying that these'}, {'start': '2276.320', 'end': '2282.000', 'text': 'shelves are going to be as bare as they'}, {'start': '2278.400', 'end': '2284.240', 'text': 'were during the pandemic. Like no,'}, {'start': '2282.000', 'end': '2287.760', 'text': 'everything is a problem. Not to mention'}, {'start': '2284.240', 'end': '2290.560', 'text': "Signal Gate and now you've got um one of"}, {'start': '2287.760', 'end': '2292.000', 'text': 'your, you know, appointees stepping down'}, {'start': '2290.560', 'end': '2293.760', 'text': 'because somebody was going to have to'}, {'start': '2292.000', 'end': '2295.359', 'text': "take the blame. Now, I think it's the"}, {'start': '2293.760', 'end': '2296.880', 'text': "guy that needs Yeah, I think it's the"}, {'start': '2295.359', 'end': '2298.960', 'text': 'guy that says he wants to have his'}, {'start': '2296.880', 'end': '2300.800', 'text': 'makeup room that needs to go somewhere'}, {'start': '2298.960', 'end': '2303.839', 'text': 'because at least Mike Walls has some'}, {'start': '2300.800', 'end': '2307.200', 'text': 'kind of um some kind of experience'}, {'start': '2303.839', 'end': '2308.960', 'text': 'within government unlike Pete Hex. But'}, {'start': '2307.200', 'end': '2311.359', 'text': 'honestly, get rid of the entire cabinet.'}, {'start': '2308.960', 'end': '2314.160', 'text': 'We need to start over because everything'}, {'start': '2311.359', 'end': '2315.280', 'text': 'is messed up from their HHS secretary. I'}, {'start': '2314.160', 'end': '2316.800', 'text': 'know you probably trying to move on to'}, {'start': '2315.280', 'end': '2318.480', 'text': "something else, but I'm just saying I"}, {'start': '2316.800', 'end': '2320.240', 'text': 'could go on. No, I got you. We got We'}, {'start': '2318.480', 'end': '2322.079', 'text': 'have to finish a break, but start over.'}, {'start': '2320.240', 'end': '2323.839', 'text': '100 days. Start over. We got that'}, {'start': '2322.079', 'end': '2326.000', 'text': 'message. Congresswoman, thank you for'}, {'start': '2323.839', 'end': '2327.920', 'text': "being here. Uh we'll be right back uh"}, {'start': '2326.000', 'end': '2330.920', 'text': 'with something special for our beat'}, {'start': '2327.920', 'end': '2330.920', 'text': 'viewers.'}, {'start': '2334.800', 'end': '2337.680', 'text': 'Finally turning to an item Nicole'}, {'start': '2336.320', 'end': '2339.200', 'text': 'Wallace mentioned at the top of the'}, {'start': '2337.680', 'end': '2340.400', 'text': 'hour. For all the discussion of'}, {'start': '2339.200', 'end': '2342.800', 'text': 'journalism and the current'}, {'start': '2340.400', 'end': '2345.119', 'text': 'administration, we have some news about'}, {'start': '2342.800', 'end': '2347.520', 'text': "the news tonight. It's positive. The"}, {'start': '2345.119', 'end': '2349.040', 'text': 'news Emmy nominations came out today.'}, {'start': '2347.520', 'end': '2350.800', 'text': 'They include our NBC colleagues'}, {'start': '2349.040', 'end': '2353.520', 'text': 'interview with President Biden.'}, {'start': '2350.800', 'end': '2356.960', 'text': 'newsworthy, an ABC journalist interview'}, {'start': '2353.520', 'end': '2358.079', 'text': 'with both president as well and CNN'}, {'start': '2356.960', 'end': '2360.640', 'text': 'interviews with then presidential'}, {'start': '2358.079', 'end': '2363.400', 'text': 'running mate J. D. Vance and with'}, {'start': '2360.640', 'end': '2365.520', 'text': 'parents of an Israeli taken hostage by'}, {'start': '2363.400', 'end': '2368.000', 'text': 'Hamas. All of those are for the'}, {'start': '2365.520', 'end': '2370.079', 'text': 'outstanding live interview category and'}, {'start': '2368.000', 'end': '2373.280', 'text': 'we received a nomination in that'}, {'start': '2370.079', 'end': '2375.200', 'text': 'category as well. It is an honor for our'}, {'start': '2373.280', 'end': '2376.720', 'text': 'entire beat team here to be nominated'}, {'start': '2375.200', 'end': '2378.720', 'text': 'among these great colleagues. Our'}, {'start': '2376.720', 'end': '2380.160', 'text': 'nomination is for an August 2024'}, {'start': '2378.720', 'end': '2382.560', 'text': 'interview with senior Trump adviser'}, {'start': '2380.160', 'end': '2385.119', 'text': 'Steven Miller that reflects our effort'}, {'start': '2382.560', 'end': '2386.880', 'text': 'to report and hear from many different'}, {'start': '2385.119', 'end': '2388.320', 'text': 'voices and press for answers and'}, {'start': '2386.880', 'end': '2389.920', 'text': 'factchecking. That interview was in the'}, {'start': '2388.320', 'end': '2392.560', 'text': 'heat of the general election with an'}, {'start': '2389.920', 'end': '2395.040', 'text': "official who's now number two in the"}, {'start': '2392.560', 'end': '2397.680', 'text': 'White House.'}, {'start': '2395.040', 'end': '2400.640', 'text': 'Project 2025 has absolutely nothing to'}, {'start': '2397.680', 'end': '2402.240', 'text': 'do with the past, present, or future.'}, {'start': '2400.640', 'end': '2404.160', 'text': 'President Trump and President Trump'}, {'start': '2402.240', 'end': '2406.720', 'text': 'alone will make his own policies. There'}, {'start': '2404.160', 'end': '2409.040', 'text': 'are issues where we see uh a kind of'}, {'start': '2406.720', 'end': '2411.359', 'text': 'overlap. Project 2025 talks about a'}, {'start': '2409.040', 'end': '2412.800', 'text': "toptobottom overhaul of the FBI. That's"}, {'start': '2411.359', 'end': '2414.640', 'text': 'something that, as you know, President'}, {'start': '2412.800', 'end': '2416.400', 'text': 'Trump has talked about. Project 2025'}, {'start': '2414.640', 'end': '2418.320', 'text': 'talks about cracking down on these'}, {'start': '2416.400', 'end': '2419.920', 'text': 'abortion drugs. The current Republican'}, {'start': '2418.320', 'end': '2422.720', 'text': 'platform talks about using the 14th'}, {'start': '2419.920', 'end': '2426.480', 'text': 'Amendment um to try to enshrine sort of'}, {'start': '2422.720', 'end': '2429.280', 'text': 'this sort of life test. There will be no'}, {'start': '2426.480', 'end': '2430.800', 'text': 'national abortion ban under a Trump'}, {'start': '2429.280', 'end': '2432.400', 'text': 'administration.'}, {'start': '2430.800', 'end': '2434.079', 'text': 'Just some of what we heard in the'}, {'start': '2432.400', 'end': '2435.599', 'text': 'interview. If you want to go back and'}, {'start': '2434.079', 'end': '2438.640', 'text': 'check it out, you can go on YouTube and'}, {'start': '2435.599', 'end': '2441.040', 'text': 'search Melbour and Miller or go to our'}, {'start': '2438.640', 'end': '2442.960', 'text': 'playlist address. MSNBC also received'}, {'start': '2441.040', 'end': '2445.359', 'text': 'nominations in other categories for'}, {'start': '2442.960', 'end': '2447.680', 'text': 'Deadline White House and Paulo Ramos is'}, {'start': '2445.359', 'end': '2448.880', 'text': 'reporting. We do congratulate all of our'}, {'start': '2447.680', 'end': '2450.440', 'text': 'colleagues, journalists, producers, and'}, {'start': '2448.880', 'end': '2452.880', 'text': 'bookers on the recognition of a'}, {'start': '2450.440', 'end': '2455.280', 'text': 'nomination. No matter where people work,'}, {'start': '2452.880', 'end': '2459.800', 'text': 'and of course, no matter who wins, we'}, {'start': '2455.280', 'end': '2459.800', 'text': 'will keep at it. That does it for us.'}]