Anthony Scaramucci reacts to Walz firing after ‘9.2 Scaramuccis’
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B"}, {'start': '312.312', 'end': '314.881', 'text': 'Well we saw one out to be fair.'}, {'start': '314.881', 'end': '316.482', 'text': 'can we talk about this dynamic t'}, {'start': '316.482', 'end': '317.383', 'text': 'that has been set up here,'}, {'start': '317.383', 'end': '318.718', 'text': 'which I think is really interest'}, {'start': '318.718', 'end': '320.420', 'text': 'in terms of Secretary of State.'}, {'start': '320.420', 'end': '322.522', 'text': 'Rubio is going to be doing both.'}, {'start': '322.522', 'end': '323.056', 'text': 'I mean,'}, {'start': '323.056', 'end': '324.490', 'text': "and for people who don't know, h"}, {'start': '324.490', 'end': '325.024', 'text': 'he is now'}, {'start': '325.024', 'end': '326.592', 'text': 'the secretary of everything, it'}, {'start': '326.592', 'end': '328.094', 'text': "because he's already acting"}, {'start': '328.094', 'end': '330.363', 'text': 'as the acting USAID administrato'}, {'start': '330.363', 'end': '332.065', 'text': 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