Episode 1: introduction
Let's check in with Vuyani
[{'start': '18.720', 'end': '23.920', 'text': "Welcome to Let's Check In with Fani. I"}, {'start': '21.840', 'end': '27.439', 'text': 'am glad that you are joining us today'}, {'start': '23.920', 'end': '29.320', 'text': 'for our first episode. Um this is going'}, {'start': '27.439', 'end': '32.399', 'text': 'to be a long journey that we travel'}, {'start': '29.320', 'end': '35.600', 'text': 'together. So I think it is proper that'}, {'start': '32.399', 'end': '39.920', 'text': 'for us as we start we start with myself'}, {'start': '35.600', 'end': '42.719', 'text': 'introducing um myself as the host but um'}, {'start': '39.920', 'end': '45.120', 'text': "I've got my wife Liberty who has been"}, {'start': '42.719', 'end': '46.879', 'text': 'with me throughout this short journey um'}, {'start': '45.120', 'end': '50.160', 'text': 'and she will be helping us through the'}, {'start': '46.879', 'end': '51.680', 'text': 'questions that are delving into the'}, {'start': '50.160', 'end': '55.199', 'text': 'character that will be hosting you on'}, {'start': '51.680', 'end': '57.520', 'text': "this podcast. So are you excited ma'am?"}, {'start': '55.199', 'end': '60.000', 'text': "Are you ready? I'm excited. I've been"}, {'start': '57.520', 'end': '62.320', 'text': 'waiting for this episode.'}, {'start': '60.000', 'end': '65.119', 'text': 'to happen for the longest time. Same'}, {'start': '62.320', 'end': '67.360', 'text': 'here. Same here. Well, without any waste'}, {'start': '65.119', 'end': '69.799', 'text': "of time, um I'm going to hand over to"}, {'start': '67.360', 'end': '72.560', 'text': "you. Yes. So, I'll be"}, {'start': '69.799', 'end': '74.960', 'text': 'asking some few questions about himself'}, {'start': '72.560', 'end': '78.080', 'text': 'and the podcast. So, my first question'}, {'start': '74.960', 'end': '80.400', 'text': 'for today is how are you checking in?'}, {'start': '78.080', 'end': '82.840', 'text': "Yeah. Um look, I'm checking in very"}, {'start': '80.400', 'end': '86.640', 'text': "excited today. Um it's been"}, {'start': '82.840', 'end': '90.320', 'text': "a long day, but I'm happy that finally"}, {'start': '86.640', 'end': '93.880', 'text': 'we are sitting here to start. So um'}, {'start': '90.320', 'end': '97.200', 'text': 'nothing much just a a relaxed day'}, {'start': '93.880', 'end': '100.000', 'text': "um day that I'm looking forward to you"}, {'start': '97.200', 'end': '102.400', 'text': 'know sitting with you and sharing some'}, {'start': '100.000', 'end': '104.960', 'text': 'stories about myself some insight and'}, {'start': '102.400', 'end': '106.840', 'text': 'some reasons why we are doing this'}, {'start': '104.960', 'end': '110.560', 'text': 'podcast.'}, {'start': '106.840', 'end': '112.479', 'text': 'Okay. And how has it been preparing for'}, {'start': '110.560', 'end': '115.920', 'text': 'this podcast?'}, {'start': '112.479', 'end': '119.600', 'text': 'Yo, so we we came up with the idea over'}, {'start': '115.920', 'end': '122.240', 'text': "a month ago and I think we've been hard"}, {'start': '119.600', 'end': '124.560', 'text': 'at work, you know, trying to get into'}, {'start': '122.240', 'end': '126.799', 'text': 'this thing. Obviously, when we started,'}, {'start': '124.560', 'end': '129.520', 'text': 'we knew very little about, you know,'}, {'start': '126.799', 'end': '131.200', 'text': 'shooting something like this. And to be'}, {'start': '129.520', 'end': '133.840', 'text': 'quite honest with you, we make it look'}, {'start': '131.200', 'end': '135.760', 'text': 'very simple, you know, or people that do'}, {'start': '133.840', 'end': '138.000', 'text': 'podcasts, they make them look very'}, {'start': '135.760', 'end': '140.080', 'text': "simple, you know, but there's actually a"}, {'start': '138.000', 'end': '141.640', 'text': 'lot of work that goes behind, you know,'}, {'start': '140.080', 'end': '144.959', 'text': 'the scenes.'}, {'start': '141.640', 'end': '146.800', 'text': "Um, a lot of things that we've gathered"}, {'start': '144.959', 'end': '149.400', 'text': "so far is things that I didn't know when"}, {'start': '146.800', 'end': '152.640', 'text': 'we started. I mean, I had no idea that'}, {'start': '149.400', 'end': '155.440', 'text': 'equipment was not cheap. I we had to'}, {'start': '152.640', 'end': '156.720', 'text': 'work on the studio, you know. Um, so'}, {'start': '155.440', 'end': '158.560', 'text': "there's a lot of things that I had not"}, {'start': '156.720', 'end': '161.200', 'text': 'thought about. I knew what I wanted to'}, {'start': '158.560', 'end': '163.120', 'text': 'do, but I did not really think, you'}, {'start': '161.200', 'end': '166.400', 'text': 'know, what is going to take, you know,'}, {'start': '163.120', 'end': '168.800', 'text': 'what inputs do we need for that. So I'}, {'start': '166.400', 'end': '170.640', 'text': "think uh it's been a long journey over a"}, {'start': '168.800', 'end': '172.959', 'text': 'very short period of time, but I think'}, {'start': '170.640', 'end': '175.440', 'text': "we've done well for ourselves."}, {'start': '172.959', 'end': '178.400', 'text': 'Yeah, I also think so cuz the'}, {'start': '175.440', 'end': '179.319', 'text': 'preparation that goes behind setting up'}, {'start': '178.400', 'end': '183.040', 'text': 'a'}, {'start': '179.319', 'end': '186.000', 'text': "podcast is a lot and I'm so glad that we"}, {'start': '183.040', 'end': '188.959', 'text': 'are here today and you know we finally'}, {'start': '186.000', 'end': '190.239', 'text': 'we finally arrived at stage one.'}, {'start': '188.959', 'end': '192.400', 'text': 'Exactly.'}, {'start': '190.239', 'end': '195.120', 'text': 'But you know the the thing about this um'}, {'start': '192.400', 'end': '197.599', 'text': "I I think what I also realize is it's"}, {'start': '195.120', 'end': '199.360', 'text': 'the same as starting a business. We we'}, {'start': '197.599', 'end': '201.360', 'text': 'we probably not going to be perfect at'}, {'start': '199.360', 'end': '202.959', 'text': 'the beginning but what is important is'}, {'start': '201.360', 'end': '205.120', 'text': 'that we become prolific. You know we'}, {'start': '202.959', 'end': '207.120', 'text': 'just keep doing this thing put out'}, {'start': '205.120', 'end': '209.440', 'text': 'information content out there for'}, {'start': '207.120', 'end': '211.680', 'text': 'viewers to to can see and then we can'}, {'start': '209.440', 'end': '213.120', 'text': 'improve it over time. You know we can'}, {'start': '211.680', 'end': '215.519', 'text': 'tweak it here and there to get it'}, {'start': '213.120', 'end': '218.720', 'text': 'better. But I think we are really'}, {'start': '215.519', 'end': '221.920', 'text': 'determined to give out the best content,'}, {'start': '218.720', 'end': '224.879', 'text': 'you know, that we think we can produce'}, {'start': '221.920', 'end': '227.519', 'text': "and um we hope that it's something that"}, {'start': '224.879', 'end': '229.519', 'text': 'people are going to learn, enjoy, and be'}, {'start': '227.519', 'end': '232.799', 'text': 'hooked onto.'}, {'start': '229.519', 'end': '235.519', 'text': "I hope so too. So, let's dive into some"}, {'start': '232.799', 'end': '237.840', 'text': 'interesting questions. The next question'}, {'start': '235.519', 'end': '241.200', 'text': 'is, tell us about your background. Where'}, {'start': '237.840', 'end': '244.080', 'text': 'and where are you from? Where were you'}, {'start': '241.200', 'end': '246.360', 'text': 'born? How was your upbringing? Where did'}, {'start': '244.080', 'end': '249.640', 'text': 'you attend school?'}, {'start': '246.360', 'end': '254.439', 'text': 'Yeah, so I was born in'}, {'start': '249.640', 'end': '257.840', 'text': '1985 at Cebu Hospital on the 28th of'}, {'start': '254.439', 'end': '261.280', 'text': 'September. I was born into a family of'}, {'start': '257.840', 'end': '265.680', 'text': 'seven siblings, um, five brothers and'}, {'start': '261.280', 'end': '268.400', 'text': 'two sisters. One sister is late. And,'}, {'start': '265.680', 'end': '271.600', 'text': 'um, my mother was a domestic worker. She'}, {'start': '268.400', 'end': '275.040', 'text': 'is still alive. And my father was a'}, {'start': '271.600', 'end': '278.280', 'text': 'truck driver. Um he is late now. So I'}, {'start': '275.040', 'end': '281.919', 'text': 'grew up in Fabail Park in a small farm'}, {'start': '278.280', 'end': '283.759', 'text': 'holding and um as far as I can remember'}, {'start': '281.919', 'end': '285.919', 'text': 'life was good. You know growing up as a'}, {'start': '283.759', 'end': '288.320', 'text': 'child was nice. You spend most of your'}, {'start': '285.919', 'end': '289.600', 'text': 'day in the streets. You leave early in'}, {'start': '288.320', 'end': '291.440', 'text': 'the morning. As soon as you wake up'}, {'start': '289.600', 'end': '293.840', 'text': "you're out. You know you come back when"}, {'start': '291.440', 'end': '296.479', 'text': "it's really dark and sometimes you get a"}, {'start': '293.840', 'end': '298.800', 'text': 'hiding for that. But overall I mean it'}, {'start': '296.479', 'end': '301.000', 'text': 'was a very good upbringing. I mean we we'}, {'start': '298.800', 'end': '304.479', 'text': 'learned a lot. We enjoyed you know that'}, {'start': '301.000', 'end': '306.639', 'text': 'space. It was an environment with a lot'}, {'start': '304.479', 'end': '310.080', 'text': 'of challenges. I mean access to certain'}, {'start': '306.639', 'end': '311.840', 'text': 'things was difficult to get transport um'}, {'start': '310.080', 'end': '314.479', 'text': 'in a place like that was difficult.'}, {'start': '311.840', 'end': '317.199', 'text': "You'd walk long distances. I grew up in"}, {'start': '314.479', 'end': '320.840', 'text': 'a house with no electricity until I was'}, {'start': '317.199', 'end': '323.919', 'text': "17 years old. So but it's"}, {'start': '320.840', 'end': '325.880', 'text': "um it's a it's a good upbringing. I"}, {'start': '323.919', 'end': '328.160', 'text': 'attended school in the same um'}, {'start': '325.880', 'end': '329.240', 'text': 'neighborhood. Uh the name of the school'}, {'start': '328.160', 'end': '332.400', 'text': 'was called'}, {'start': '329.240', 'end': '336.240', 'text': 'Ramulle and I attended this school for'}, {'start': '332.400', 'end': '339.199', 'text': '14 years you know. So yeah every time I'}, {'start': '336.240', 'end': '341.039', 'text': 'I say this I know why you laugh. Um but'}, {'start': '339.199', 'end': '344.639', 'text': 'every time I say this I know that people'}, {'start': '341.039', 'end': '347.600', 'text': 'get curious to say how how is it that I'}, {'start': '344.639', 'end': '350.240', 'text': 'spent 14 years in one school. Um and'}, {'start': '347.600', 'end': '353.840', 'text': "there's there's there's two reasons for"}, {'start': '350.240', 'end': '357.840', 'text': 'that. Um the first one is I started'}, {'start': '353.840', 'end': '359.560', 'text': 'school in 91 and I was 5 years old'}, {'start': '357.840', 'end': '364.000', 'text': 'turning six in'}, {'start': '359.560', 'end': '367.600', 'text': 'September and um I failed my grade one'}, {'start': '364.000', 'end': '370.400', 'text': 'you know then it was SSR and then I'}, {'start': '367.600', 'end': '374.080', 'text': 'passed went on to grade two and then I'}, {'start': '370.400', 'end': '376.479', 'text': 'failed my grade two again you know so um'}, {'start': '374.080', 'end': '378.199', 'text': "that's that's that's basically what had"}, {'start': '376.479', 'end': '380.800', 'text': 'happened and I'}, {'start': '378.199', 'end': '382.720', 'text': 'remember you know I come come from a'}, {'start': '380.800', 'end': '385.199', 'text': 'family where my all of my siblings went'}, {'start': '382.720', 'end': '387.039', 'text': 'to the same school and my siblings'}, {'start': '385.199', 'end': '389.199', 'text': 'performed very well at school. You know'}, {'start': '387.039', 'end': '391.199', 'text': 'the brother that I started school with'}, {'start': '389.199', 'end': '393.840', 'text': 'when I was failing he was coming out'}, {'start': '391.199', 'end': '396.240', 'text': 'first or second or third position in in'}, {'start': '393.840', 'end': '398.360', 'text': "class and I was this one who's just"}, {'start': '396.240', 'end': '401.520', 'text': "young and naughty. I didn't understand"}, {'start': '398.360', 'end': '403.440', 'text': "school. So um that's what had happened."}, {'start': '401.520', 'end': '408.560', 'text': 'In fact, when we when we constructed'}, {'start': '403.440', 'end': '411.039', 'text': 'this um studio, I found my grade two'}, {'start': '408.560', 'end': '415.199', 'text': 'report, you know, where I failed and we'}, {'start': '411.039', 'end': '417.600', 'text': 'were 63 in class and I came out 56, I'}, {'start': '415.199', 'end': '420.280', 'text': 'think. By the way, he loves that report.'}, {'start': '417.600', 'end': '424.319', 'text': "I love that report. This is that's"}, {'start': '420.280', 'end': '427.199', 'text': "my that's my most sentimental item that"}, {'start': '424.319', 'end': '430.240', 'text': 'I keep from back then. I I I intend to'}, {'start': '427.199', 'end': '433.199', 'text': 'keep this report and I just want to you'}, {'start': '430.240', 'end': '435.120', 'text': 'know make it an item that I keep for the'}, {'start': '433.199', 'end': '437.919', 'text': 'rest of my life for as long as I can'}, {'start': '435.120', 'end': '441.120', 'text': "because I I think it's important um when"}, {'start': '437.919', 'end': '444.479', 'text': 'I look at it today I realized that that'}, {'start': '441.120', 'end': '446.240', 'text': 'moment was actually an introduction into'}, {'start': '444.479', 'end': '447.919', 'text': 'something very important you know the'}, {'start': '446.240', 'end': '450.479', 'text': "concept of failing that's when I got"}, {'start': '447.919', 'end': '452.319', 'text': 'introduced to that you know you fail you'}, {'start': '450.479', 'end': '454.160', 'text': 'go back home you give your parents the'}, {'start': '452.319', 'end': '456.000', 'text': 'report and then you get to experience'}, {'start': '454.160', 'end': '458.319', 'text': 'the disappointment you you get to'}, {'start': '456.000', 'end': '460.199', 'text': 'experience the shame, you know, um you'}, {'start': '458.319', 'end': '462.880', 'text': 'get to experience all of those'}, {'start': '460.199', 'end': '464.919', 'text': 'unpleasant, you know, feelings that you'}, {'start': '462.880', 'end': '468.160', 'text': 'that we go through as a result of'}, {'start': '464.919', 'end': '470.639', 'text': 'failing. And I think that introduction'}, {'start': '468.160', 'end': '473.039', 'text': 'for me it was important because today I'}, {'start': '470.639', 'end': '475.680', 'text': 'look at myself and you know the field'}, {'start': '473.039', 'end': '477.280', 'text': "that I'm in you know where when you do"}, {'start': '475.680', 'end': '479.680', 'text': "business you're bound to fail you know"}, {'start': '477.280', 'end': '482.080', 'text': 'in fact in life we will never go through'}, {'start': '479.680', 'end': '484.240', 'text': 'life without failing and essentially for'}, {'start': '482.080', 'end': '488.080', 'text': 'me that was an important introduction'}, {'start': '484.240', 'end': '491.680', 'text': 'into things or concepts that are really'}, {'start': '488.080', 'end': '494.080', 'text': 'teaching me skills and ways to handle'}, {'start': '491.680', 'end': '496.240', 'text': 'situations such as failure so that'}, {'start': '494.080', 'end': '499.599', 'text': 'tomorrow I can be able to real progress'}, {'start': '496.240', 'end': '501.319', 'text': 'with that um with failure having'}, {'start': '499.599', 'end': '504.400', 'text': 'happened. So'}, {'start': '501.319', 'end': '506.000', 'text': "um I attended the school. So that's"}, {'start': '504.400', 'end': '508.080', 'text': "that's the first reason why I attended"}, {'start': '506.000', 'end': '510.479', 'text': 'this school for 14 years. I failed the'}, {'start': '508.080', 'end': '512.240', 'text': 'first and second grade. Um the second'}, {'start': '510.479', 'end': '514.880', 'text': 'reason for this is because when I'}, {'start': '512.240', 'end': '516.959', 'text': 'started at this school, it was a primary'}, {'start': '514.880', 'end': '520.399', 'text': 'school and then somewhere during my'}, {'start': '516.959', 'end': '523.279', 'text': 'primary years it became a a a combined'}, {'start': '520.399', 'end': '526.880', 'text': 'school. So they added a grade nine and a'}, {'start': '523.279', 'end': '529.519', 'text': 'grade eight. And then towards my'}, {'start': '526.880', 'end': '532.959', 'text': 'completion of the intermediary learning,'}, {'start': '529.519', 'end': '535.200', 'text': 'they then added another um they actually'}, {'start': '532.959', 'end': '537.360', 'text': 'converted the school into a secondary.'}, {'start': '535.200', 'end': '540.640', 'text': 'So I just kept continuing in the same'}, {'start': '537.360', 'end': '542.480', 'text': 'school until I finished my my grade 12.'}, {'start': '540.640', 'end': '544.640', 'text': "So in a nutshell, that's that's"}, {'start': '542.480', 'end': '547.040', 'text': 'basically my upbringing, you know, in my'}, {'start': '544.640', 'end': '549.600', 'text': 'schooling. Um I finished my grade 12 in'}, {'start': '547.040', 'end': '552.480', 'text': '2004, by the way.'}, {'start': '549.600', 'end': '556.720', 'text': 'Very interesting. Yes. Yes. So I wanted'}, {'start': '552.480', 'end': '561.440', 'text': 'to ask what did you do after metric?'}, {'start': '556.720', 'end': '563.440', 'text': 'Yeah. So after metric I went to UC um to'}, {'start': '561.440', 'end': '566.720', 'text': 'study chemical engineering. I So a'}, {'start': '563.440', 'end': '570.320', 'text': 'person who failed grade one and two'}, {'start': '566.720', 'end': '572.560', 'text': 'managed to enter UCT.'}, {'start': '570.320', 'end': '575.760', 'text': 'Yeah. Well I something must have'}, {'start': '572.560', 'end': '577.440', 'text': 'happened you throughout your high school'}, {'start': '575.760', 'end': '580.640', 'text': 'years.'}, {'start': '577.440', 'end': '582.640', 'text': 'Yeah. Uh look, I I for me how I I look'}, {'start': '580.640', 'end': '584.240', 'text': "at it, I don't think it's um it's"}, {'start': '582.640', 'end': '586.640', 'text': 'something exceptional to be quite'}, {'start': '584.240', 'end': '589.120', 'text': 'honest. I think a lot of people fail in'}, {'start': '586.640', 'end': '591.760', 'text': 'life, but they still are able to achieve'}, {'start': '589.120', 'end': '595.600', 'text': 'great things. You know, I think um'}, {'start': '591.760', 'end': '598.800', 'text': 'failing it it it is not an indication of'}, {'start': '595.600', 'end': '600.399', 'text': 'um lack of capability, but it is rather'}, {'start': '598.800', 'end': '602.560', 'text': 'something that we go through in life'}, {'start': '600.399', 'end': '604.080', 'text': 'that we just need to accept. And when'}, {'start': '602.560', 'end': '605.600', 'text': "you fail, it does not mean that you're"}, {'start': '604.080', 'end': '607.120', 'text': "not going to succeed in life or you're"}, {'start': '605.600', 'end': '609.920', 'text': 'not going to make it. you know, even if'}, {'start': '607.120', 'end': '612.000', 'text': 'your dream is to go to Harvard or Oxford'}, {'start': '609.920', 'end': '614.240', 'text': 'University or whichever prestigious'}, {'start': '612.000', 'end': '618.320', 'text': "institution that you'd want to attend."}, {'start': '614.240', 'end': '622.560', 'text': "So that's how I I I I look at it. Um so"}, {'start': '618.320', 'end': '626.000', 'text': 'but yeah, I got accepted at at um at UC'}, {'start': '622.560', 'end': '628.480', 'text': 'um to study chemical engineering and um'}, {'start': '626.000', 'end': '630.560', 'text': 'I was accepted in a five-year program.'}, {'start': '628.480', 'end': '633.040', 'text': "It was called the Aspect program. I'm"}, {'start': '630.560', 'end': '634.720', 'text': 'not sure if it still exists'}, {'start': '633.040', 'end': '639.279', 'text': "um and if it's still they called the"}, {'start': '634.720', 'end': '642.560', 'text': 'aspect program. So in 2005 I went to'}, {'start': '639.279', 'end': '645.120', 'text': 'Cape Town um to do my first year and'}, {'start': '642.560', 'end': '649.120', 'text': 'then 2006 part of my first year and'}, {'start': '645.120', 'end': '651.279', 'text': 'second year and then 2007 when I was'}, {'start': '649.120', 'end': '653.680', 'text': 'doing my second year I think most of my'}, {'start': '651.279', 'end': '657.920', 'text': 'subjects were second year I then got'}, {'start': '653.680', 'end': '662.000', 'text': 'excluded at the end of 2007 and this was'}, {'start': '657.920', 'end': '664.079', 'text': 'an academic exclusion you know so um'}, {'start': '662.000', 'end': '667.440', 'text': 'after getting excluded I then decided'}, {'start': '664.079', 'end': '671.200', 'text': "that I'm going to convert my BSC into a"}, {'start': '667.440', 'end': '673.480', 'text': 'diploma and then I went to CPU. And by'}, {'start': '671.200', 'end': '675.920', 'text': 'the way, this is not something that was'}, {'start': '673.480', 'end': '677.680', 'text': 'uncommon. It was very common. I mean, a'}, {'start': '675.920', 'end': '679.440', 'text': 'lot of people that were failing um'}, {'start': '677.680', 'end': '682.399', 'text': 'especially chemical engineering, we'}, {'start': '679.440', 'end': '685.040', 'text': 'would go to CPU, convert our our BSc'}, {'start': '682.399', 'end': '687.000', 'text': 'into a diploma and then some the'}, {'start': '685.040', 'end': '689.399', 'text': 'following year would go back to UC'}, {'start': '687.000', 'end': '692.320', 'text': 're-register and continue with their'}, {'start': '689.399', 'end': '695.680', 'text': 'degree. So with me, I also followed that'}, {'start': '692.320', 'end': '698.640', 'text': 'same route. I went to um do my diploma,'}, {'start': '695.680', 'end': '699.399', 'text': 'converted my BSE into a diploma by going'}, {'start': '698.640', 'end': '704.079', 'text': 'to'}, {'start': '699.399', 'end': '708.399', 'text': 'CPU. So what is um interesting is while'}, {'start': '704.079', 'end': '711.040', 'text': 'I was at um CPU during the the week over'}, {'start': '708.399', 'end': '713.240', 'text': 'the weekend, I would still go back to UC'}, {'start': '711.040', 'end': '717.440', 'text': 'because I was active at the student'}, {'start': '713.240', 'end': '719.440', 'text': 'Christian fellowship. So, and I remember'}, {'start': '717.440', 'end': '721.120', 'text': 'then, you know, every time I met the'}, {'start': '719.440', 'end': '722.800', 'text': 'people that I was with at class, they'}, {'start': '721.120', 'end': '725.200', 'text': "would ask me, I mean, we don't see you"}, {'start': '722.800', 'end': '726.800', 'text': 'during the week. Where are you? 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So when will the the episodes be'}, {'start': '2189.680', 'end': '2194.000', 'text': 'aired?'}, {'start': '2191.040', 'end': '2197.520', 'text': 'So um we are launching this is the first'}, {'start': '2194.000', 'end': '2201.040', 'text': 'episode um the intro episode but we will'}, {'start': '2197.520', 'end': '2204.280', 'text': 'be airing our episodes every Thursday at'}, {'start': '2201.040', 'end': '2209.680', 'text': '6:00 in the evening we will air an'}, {'start': '2204.280', 'end': '2213.440', 'text': 'episode and um yeah so weekly we will'}, {'start': '2209.680', 'end': '2215.599', 'text': 'air an episode. Okay. And and what I'}, {'start': '2213.440', 'end': '2218.560', 'text': 'also want to say is I think our viewers'}, {'start': '2215.599', 'end': '2220.800', 'text': 'must go on to our our website. 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I'm not I'm not"}, {'start': '2283.680', 'end': '2289.280', 'text': "allergic to feedback. You don't like me?"}, {'start': '2286.960', 'end': '2292.240', 'text': "I'm not allergic to feedback. So, I I"}, {'start': '2289.280', 'end': '2294.800', 'text': 'hope that we can have our our platforms'}, {'start': '2292.240', 'end': '2297.520', 'text': 'can be very interactive. I I love to be'}, {'start': '2294.800', 'end': '2301.280', 'text': "challenged. I'm open to to that to be"}, {'start': '2297.520', 'end': '2304.240', 'text': 'engaging. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I think people'}, {'start': '2301.280', 'end': '2307.119', 'text': "must go check out our website. It's a"}, {'start': '2304.240', 'end': '2310.640', 'text': "very insightful website. It's got a lot"}, {'start': '2307.119', 'end': '2313.839', 'text': 'of material information that will help'}, {'start': '2310.640', 'end': '2316.320', 'text': 'and assist you as a business or anyone'}, {'start': '2313.839', 'end': '2319.520', 'text': "who's who wants to go into business."}, {'start': '2316.320', 'end': '2324.880', 'text': 'Yeah. The things that we learned that'}, {'start': '2319.520', 'end': '2327.520', 'text': 'took us six years, you know, for it can'}, {'start': '2324.880', 'end': '2330.960', 'text': 'I can we can help you that it takes you'}, {'start': '2327.520', 'end': '2333.280', 'text': "shorter. Exactly. Yes. Yes. Um so that's"}, {'start': '2330.960', 'end': '2335.200', 'text': 'the thing and and by the way you know um'}, {'start': '2333.280', 'end': '2337.440', 'text': 'we we we trying to make this thing as'}, {'start': '2335.200', 'end': '2339.520', 'text': 'practical as possible. 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You know it's a very it's a"}, {'start': '2359.760', 'end': '2365.680', 'text': 'very nice competition and it it will be'}, {'start': '2362.560', 'end': '2368.640', 'text': 'very helpful to someone who does take'}, {'start': '2365.680', 'end': '2371.040', 'text': 'get that opportunity you know to start a'}, {'start': '2368.640', 'end': '2374.560', 'text': 'business. Yes. Most definitely. Most'}, {'start': '2371.040', 'end': '2377.119', 'text': "definitely. Yeah. Is that all? That's"}, {'start': '2374.560', 'end': '2380.079', 'text': "definitely that's all for me for today"}, {'start': '2377.119', 'end': '2382.880', 'text': 'and I hope the viewers enjoy it. 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So um I hope that they"}, {'start': '2425.920', 'end': '2430.560', 'text': 'would they would take us up on this'}, {'start': '2427.520', 'end': '2432.000', 'text': 'offer cuz I know like me, they a lot of'}, {'start': '2430.560', 'end': '2435.599', 'text': "people don't want to be in the public"}, {'start': '2432.000', 'end': '2437.920', 'text': "eye. Yeah. Just like you. I'm still"}, {'start': '2435.599', 'end': '2440.000', 'text': 'shocked that you decided to do a'}, {'start': '2437.920', 'end': '2442.880', 'text': "podcast, but it's going to be"}, {'start': '2440.000', 'end': '2445.359', 'text': 'interesting. Definitely I enjoyed this'}, {'start': '2442.880', 'end': '2447.440', 'text': 'um episode. It was very insightful for'}, {'start': '2445.359', 'end': '2451.520', 'text': "me and I'm sure it was insightful for"}, {'start': '2447.440', 'end': '2453.040', 'text': 'everyone who listened and watched. H we'}, {'start': '2451.520', 'end': '2456.240', 'text': "can't wait to see you on the next"}, {'start': '2453.040', 'end': '2458.280', 'text': 'episode. Thank you very much. Thank you.'}, {'start': '2456.240', 'end': '2461.839', 'text': 'And we hope to see the viewers soon.'}, {'start': '2458.280', 'end': '2465.200', 'text': 'Yes. Please like, follow, and subscribe'}, {'start': '2461.839', 'end': '2470.319', 'text': 'to all our social media pages including'}, {'start': '2465.200', 'end': '2475.000', 'text': "our website page. Let's check in with"}, {'start': '2470.319', 'end': '2475.000', 'text': 'Thank you. Thanks,'}]