Florence Espeut-Nickless: Class, Curtis, and Sometimes I'm like, don't ask me things...
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our buy us a coffee page would be incredible it\xa0\njust makes this sustainable and and any feedback'}, {'start': '132.960', 'end': '139.520', 'text': 'or questions you want asking or guests that you\xa0\nwant on yeah the absolutescenespodcast@gmail.com'}, {'start': '139.520', 'end': '146.640', 'text': "so I guess let's dive in our guest this week is\xa0\nFlorence Espert Nicholas who is an incredible"}, {'start': '146.640', 'end': '154.880', 'text': 'theatre maker actor writer from the southwest\xa0\noriginally from Chippenham and she has such a'}, {'start': '154.880', 'end': '162.480', 'text': 'great perspective on this industry um we go into\xa0\na lot about her background we go into a lot about'}, {'start': '162.480', 'end': '169.680', 'text': 'yeah how she started making work herself and\xa0\nI guess the interesting the reason we wanted'}, {'start': '169.680', 'end': '176.080', 'text': 'to get flow on is because of you know the writing\xa0\nangle the writing yeah so working class 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face in the Bristol art\xa0\nscene and I particularly enjoy our rants and bants'}, {'start': '549.680', 'end': '556.480', 'text': "about the industry at the front desk it's Florence\xa0\nEspeut-Nickless i'm so sorry to said your name"}, {'start': '556.480', 'end': '563.840', 'text': "completely wrong how do you Let's No it's all good\xa0\nhow do you say your gorgeous name no I think you"}, {'start': '563.840', 'end': '570.720', 'text': "kind of said it right um kind of yeah I think you\xa0\nlike you did well a lot of people don't like a way"}, {'start': '570.720', 'end': '581.120', 'text': "off Florence Espeut-Nickless yeah it's Florence\xa0\nEspeut-Nickless yay i I don't know whether in"}, {'start': '581.120', 'end': '585.440', 'text': "the edits that we'll just keep all the we'll see\xa0\nhow we see what the vibe is of the whole thing to"}, {'start': '585.440', 'end': '591.520', 'text': "see and also we'll check for you i love it we're\xa0\nreal people here we are real thank you and welcome"}, {'start': '591.520', 'end': '596.480', 'text': "how you doing hi yeah I'm good i'm excited to be\xa0\nhere thank you for having me thank you so much for"}, {'start': '596.480', 'end': '603.360', 'text': 'coming of course very excited we always um so\xa0\nwe start each uh each episode or at least with'}, {'start': '603.360', 'end': '611.040', 'text': "the guests on anyway um when the guest comes uh\xa0\nwe start with an icebreaker question so it's not"}, {'start': '611.040', 'end': '620.560', 'text': 'too deep but uh just to sort of ease all of us\xa0\ninto into the into the episode so the icebreaker'}, {'start': '620.560', 'end': '631.360', 'text': 'question is would you rather write the life of\xa0\nsomebody else or have somebody else write the'}, {'start': '631.360', 'end': '640.160', 'text': "life of you oh I didn't i love that excellent work\xa0\nyes so I didn't tell you about it you didn't tell"}, {'start': '640.160', 'end': '645.520', 'text': "me what it was that's a good one i never thought\xa0\nabout it before so I'm just thinking about it now"}, {'start': '645.520', 'end': '657.440', 'text': "um oh what would I think i don't know i feel like\xa0\nI'd probably rather write the life of someone else"}, {'start': '657.440', 'end': '663.280', 'text': 'yeah nice yeah i think I like I was talking\xa0\nto someone about that yesterday like a friend'}, {'start': '663.280', 'end': '670.080', 'text': "i feel at that point where I really like it when\xa0\nsomeone's sort of come a bit more now like people"}, {'start': '670.080', 'end': '676.320', 'text': 'kind of come to me with like maybe their story or\xa0\na bit of their story or um like some of the shows'}, {'start': '676.320', 'end': '681.840', 'text': "I've worked on and written that's what they've\xa0\nbeen like someone who isn't a writer or kind of"}, {'start': '681.840', 'end': '685.520', 'text': "you know everyone can write but necess they don't\xa0\nnecessarily think they're a writer or have the"}, 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people not to ask me yeah yeah"}, {'start': '3498.800', 'end': '3505.120', 'text': 'yeah yeah no but I like I think on what you were\xa0\ntouching on yeah like um I think I like to sort'}, {'start': '3505.120', 'end': '3510.560', 'text': 'of I probably prefer listening this won\'t come\xa0\nacross in this because people be like "You\'ve'}, {'start': '3510.560', 'end': '3516.000', 'text': "been going on but Yeah but we love it i like to\xa0\nlisten to people and about other people's lives so"}, {'start': '3516.000', 'end': '3523.360', 'text': 'uh generally in life I would sort of not talk\xa0\nabout myself maybe I put it into my work yeah'}, {'start': '3523.360', 'end': '3529.840', 'text': "the kind of like uh you've got it covered yeah\xa0\nso that's where I get it out so I'll like listen"}, {'start': '3529.840', 'end': '3534.400', 'text': "to other people what's going on for them what\xa0\nthey're struggling with and I won't necessarily"}, {'start': '3534.400', 'end': '3540.480', 'text': 'like volunteer information about my mates will say\xa0\nit they\'re like "Oh I\'ll be with them for like 3'}, {'start': '3540.480', 'end': '3547.040', 'text': 'hours." And then just as I leave I\'ll be like drop\xa0\nI\'ll like an absolute bomb Michelle be like by the'}, {'start': '3547.040', 'end': '3553.440', 'text': "way this is going on they'll be like I got to go\xa0\nso yeah maybe it is that it's like people being"}, {'start': '3553.440', 'end': '3560.400', 'text': "like yeah are you good i don't know if I would\xa0\ntell them if I wasn't Yeah yeah amazing thank"}, {'start': '3560.400', 'end': '3565.520', 'text': "you ever so much well um I think that's where we\xa0\nwe're going to draw it to a close now um that that"}, {'start': '3565.520', 'end': '3570.160', 'text': "was great amazing answers amazing absolute scene\xa0\nyeah we're going to give Florence some space now"}, {'start': '3570.800', 'end': '3577.040', 'text': "oh my god that was a bad answer it wasn't it was\xa0\nwonderful so it's goodbye for me it's goodbye"}, {'start': '3577.040', 'end': '3586.960', 'text': 'for me goodbye thanks for having me see you later\xa0\ngreat show absolute Scenes is written and hosted'}, {'start': '3586.960', 'end': '3592.560', 'text': 'by Andy Barton and Gabrielle Shepard with music\xa0\nby Brian Hargreaves edited by Andy Barton marketed'}, {'start': '3592.560', 'end': '3597.200', 'text': "by Gabriel Shepard with the assistance from the\xa0\nBristol Oldvic Theater we'd like to thank everyone"}, {'start': '3597.200', 'end': '3601.520', 'text': 'for their continued support and especially like\xa0\nto thank our guest Lawrence Esper Nicholas if'}, {'start': '3601.520', 'end': '3605.840', 'text': "you'd like to support us financially you'll\xa0\nfind links to our buy me a coffee page below"}, {'start': '3605.840', 'end': '3610.800', 'text': "join us next month when we'll bring you new\xa0\nguests new banter and me sporting some new and"}, {'start': '3610.800', 'end': '3620.485', 'text': 'interesting facial hair see you next time well\xa0\ndone everybody absolutely fantastic [Applause]'}]