プレミア配信(尾形)【In Focus・西谷文和  万博  行ってみたら　「汚水ランド」に大量の虫／子どもだらけの学徒動員】5/1(木) 18:30~
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[{'start': '0.190', 'end': '17.920', 'text': '[Music]'}, {'start': '14.920', 'end': '17.920', 'text': 'Okay, hello everyone.  I am Toshihiko Ohkata, editor-in-chief of Actimes.  Today, Nishitani Fu-san is with us.  thank you.'}, {'start': '21.480', 'end': '24.960', 'text': 'Yes, thank you very much.'}, {'start': '22.600', 'end': '27.760', 'text': 'thank you.  yes.  Well,'}, {'start': '24.960', 'end': '30.439', 'text': 'recently, I spoke about the Expo one month before it'}, {'start': '27.760', 'end': '34.040', 'text': ', and also just before that'}, {'start': '30.439', 'end': '38.640', 'text': '.  Well, the'}, {'start': '34.040', 'end': '43.239', 'text': 'opening finally took place on April 13th, and I went on the 13th and 24th'}, {'start': '38.640', 'end': '45.920', 'text': ', while Nishitani-san'}, {'start': '43.239', 'end': '47.160', 'text': "went on the 20th.  It's the 25th.  yes"}, {'start': '45.920', 'end': '51.160', 'text': '.'}, {'start': '47.160', 'end': '53.280', 'text': 'yes.  What did you think of your visit?  Well, I'}, {'start': '51.160', 'end': '56.559', 'text': 'went through the West Gate.'}, {'start': '53.280', 'end': '56.559', 'text': 'So'}, {'start': '58.079', 'end': '60.480', 'text': 'I took that JR line and it cost me 10,000 yen.  That'}, {'start': '59.079', 'end': '63.480', 'text': "9 o'clock train.   There were a"}, {'start': '60.480', 'end': '63.480', 'text': 'lot of foreigners there, so I got off at the Dot in front of Universal Studios,'}, {'start': '66.280', 'end': '72.200', 'text': 'and the train was empty at Ba station,'}, {'start': '69.200', 'end': '72.200', 'text': 'so when I got to the West Gate it felt like a field trip and school excursion.'}, {'start': '75.119', 'end': '78.119', 'text': "West Gate, that's right.  That's where the bus stops."}, {'start': '82.799', 'end': '85.400', 'text': 'By the morning the event was already packed with children and high school students, and there were only a smattering of general audience members, so in the end they'}, {'start': '85.400', 'end': '88.400', 'text': 'gave out commemorative gifts saying that they had reached 100,000 or 1 million people, but'}, {'start': '88.640', 'end': '91.640', 'text': 'most of those people were people involved and those elementary and junior high school students.'}, {'start': '92.840', 'end': '98.200', 'text': 'I see.  yes.'}, {'start': '96.799', 'end': '101.200', 'text': 'For me too, the day before, the 24th,'}, {'start': '98.200', 'end': '101.200', 'text': 'was a Thursday, and it was very hot, so it'}, {'start': '102.439', 'end': '105.439', 'text': 'was also the first day that someone died. What'}, {'start': '106.280', 'end': '109.280', 'text': "surprised me at the time was the number of elementary, middle, and high school students.   that's"}, {'start': '111.079', 'end': '114.079', 'text': "right.  We're now in the same class as students.  Even so, they inflated the number of participants"}, {'start': '116.399', 'end': '120.119', 'text': 'to make it look like it was a success.'}, {'start': '118.920', 'end': '123.119', 'text': 'Yeah.'}, {'start': '120.119', 'end': '123.119', 'text': 'Well, I heard from Maefuji-san that the idea of \u200b\u200bManabu and Fuji-san being in the same hospital was brought up by Officer Nishitani and Fuji-san, and I think everyone else had written about it too.  I was chatting and saying, "Yes, yes, yes," and when I was'}, {'start': '131.319', 'end': '134.319', 'text': 'doing the live show on the 2nd, someone from the Manba venue said something like, "This is really like you and Manabu, isn\'t it?"'}, {'start': '136.840', 'end': '139.840', 'text': 'Yeah.  yes.'}, {'start': '140.959', 'end': '145.920', 'text': 'No, but even though the 24th and 25th'}, {'start': '142.920', 'end': '145.920', 'text': 'were weekdays, there were still a lot of visitors.  Ah,'}, {'start': '146.800', 'end': '151.200', 'text': "yes yes yes yes.  That's right."}, {'start': '148.200', 'end': '151.200', 'text': 'That does not include the approximately 80,000 people involved in the event.'}, {'start': '152.120', 'end': '156.400', 'text': 'yes.  yes.'}, {'start': '153.400', 'end': '156.400', 'text': 'So what is the reality of it?'}, {'start': '159.000', 'end': '162.000', 'text': "Well, that's why it's called a field trip.  Field trips and school trips are free, so this is all tax money."}, {'start': '170.599', 'end': '174.000', 'text': 'And the people involved are the people who work there.  So, for example, the number of people who'}, {'start': '171.599', 'end': '176.560', 'text': 'buy the 6,000 yen advance ticket or the 7,500 yen same-day ticket to get'}, {'start': '176.560', 'end': '178.519', 'text': 'in is really very small.'}, {'start': '178.519', 'end': '181.519', 'text': "So it's certain to be in the red, and, well, the stingy thing about the Restoration Party is, how can I put it? They're saying that since the Expo has already been held, it's already a success, and they"}, {'start': '195.000', 'end': '198.000', 'text': "'re not even setting a target for the number of visitors."}, {'start': '199.239', 'end': '202.640', 'text': 'Do people stop saying it?'}, {'start': '200.720', 'end': '204.879', 'text': 'Yes, they stop saying it.'}, {'start': '202.640', 'end': '206.480', 'text': 'So, around this time last year, they were saying that the turning point'}, {'start': '204.879', 'end': '209.239', 'text': 'was 18 million people, and that 14 million advance tickets would be sold'}, {'start': '206.480', 'end': '211.200', 'text': 'out.'}, {'start': '209.239', 'end': '214.200', 'text': 'yes.  A year ago.  yes.'}, {'start': '211.200', 'end': '214.200', 'text': "That's why we no longer mention the number of people or the number of tickets.  Well, the goalposts have been shifted so far that in the end people start saying that just being able to connect with people all over the world is a success."}, {'start': '223.519', 'end': '226.519', 'text': "After all, Matsui said in an interview this morning that it's already a success.  It's before the opening."}, {'start': '231.640', 'end': '234.640', 'text': "Even if it succeeds, it's almost certain to fail and there's no way to do it no matter what.  The reason there are so many weekdays during Golden Week is because elementary school students are saying so."}, {'start': '238.490', 'end': '241.589', 'text': "[Music] That's"}, {'start': '243.280', 'end': '247.480', 'text': 'right.  Yeah.  So you said soil.'}, {'start': '246.840', 'end': '250.400', 'text': 'Yeah.   The reason why the numbers'}, {'start': '247.480', 'end': '254.319', 'text': "go down on weekends is because we don't go on field trips."}, {'start': '250.400', 'end': '257.319', 'text': "That's right.  yes.  yes.  yes.  Yeah."}, {'start': '254.319', 'end': '257.319', 'text': "So, right away, Nishitani-san, you went there, didn't you? Thank you for putting together the video.  First, let's start from the very beginning.   I"}, {'start': '262.919', 'end': '265.919', 'text': 'agree.  Take a look at how many children there are in that crab'}, {'start': '266.120', 'end': '269.120', 'text': ".  yes.  I took my time and a lot of people got off at the station, so I used white quite a bit.  Let's get off."}, {'start': '279.919', 'end': '282.919', 'text': 'Well, the'}, {'start': '294.919', 'end': '297.919', 'text': 'East Gate is this gate on Yumeshima, so it'}, {'start': '299.639', 'end': '302.639', 'text': "'s that gate.  This is the bus parking lot."}, {'start': '308.919', 'end': '318.160', 'text': 'yes.  This is for customers at 9am and 10am'}, {'start': '312.620', 'end': '319.160', 'text': '[Music]'}, {'start': '318.160', 'end': '320.319', 'text': '.  Please check the construction work using your ticket.  Oh, this'}, {'start': '320.319', 'end': '324.319', 'text': "is the purchasing outlet only for customers at 9 and 10 o'clock."}, {'start': '322.570', 'end': '325.360', 'text': '[Music]'}, {'start': '324.319', 'end': '328.360', 'text': 'Well, after this,'}, {'start': '325.360', 'end': '328.360', 'text': "well, this is, that methane gas, well, it's the feeling of releasing the methane gas."}, {'start': '331.560', 'end': '334.800', 'text': 'Oh, I'}, {'start': '331.800', 'end': '334.800', 'text': "said on the radio that it's not good if a lot of meta gas escapes, so please watch this on the radio or TV today.  It's pointing beautifully downwards.  That cigarette won't fit."}, {'start': '345.120', 'end': '348.120', 'text': 'So, um, including our seats, I think methane gas is probably coming out from here right now, and they say they measure it every day, and the person measuring it, well, I think they probably measure it first thing in the morning, but the amount of methane gas released varies depending on the fire and also on the time, so I do'}, {'start': '364.560', 'end': '367.560', 'text': 'think that if they put something in here it might explode, but they have taken some measures like this.'}, {'start': '367.750', 'end': '370.839', 'text': '[Music] I'}, {'start': '371.759', 'end': '374.759', 'text': "think the elementary school students are probably here on a field trip, but the high school students are probably on a school trip from all over the country.  Only this year it was Manbaku, last year and next year it was Universal Studios.  That's how sad it is.  I feel like I'm being forced to be a ba."}, {'start': '378.180', 'end': '387.459', 'text': '[Music] It was'}, {'start': '395.039', 'end': '399.199', 'text': 'still hot, but the temperature could'}, {'start': '396.199', 'end': '399.199', 'text': 'reach 30° after the May holidays.'}, {'start': '399.660', 'end': '402.809', 'text': '[music]'}, {'start': '410.160', 'end': '413.720', 'text': '[music]'}, {'start': '412.240', 'end': '416.000', 'text': 'Ah, this is it.  Ah,'}, {'start': '413.720', 'end': '419.120', 'text': 'probably a set up.   The'}, {'start': '416.000', 'end': '419.120', 'text': 'reason is that this'}, {'start': '424.360', 'end': '425.639', 'text': "is the site of the 1st Ward, so the slope can't be made to allow the sewage to pass through, so I think this is probably what's accumulating here.  This number"}, {'start': '425.639', 'end': '430.040', 'text': "exceeded 1 million.  It's done in this collage and this collage."}, {'start': '426.960', 'end': '430.040', 'text': '[Music]'}, {'start': '443.280', 'end': '446.280', 'text': 'This is West Gate Plaza.  This is West Gate Plaza.'}, {'start': '454.199', 'end': '458.879', 'text': "No, uh, this way.  Ah, well, there are a lot of children around there.  So with this number we've finally"}, {'start': '455.199', 'end': '460.400', 'text': 'reached 1 million.  Ah,'}, {'start': '458.879', 'end': '462.240', 'text': 'this is for kids.'}, {'start': '460.400', 'end': '463.400', 'text': 'Ah, so it'}, {'start': '462.240', 'end': '465.680', 'text': "'s perfect."}, {'start': '463.400', 'end': '468.240', 'text': 'This is just here.  This'}, {'start': '465.680', 'end': '471.680', 'text': "is Metaga's place.  During the test run, the"}, {'start': '468.240', 'end': '476.440', 'text': "Communist Party's moderator, Moriguchi, who is a"}, {'start': '471.680', 'end': '481.599', 'text': 'moderator from the Ministry of Fire and Disaster Management, had a speedometer himself and when he'}, {'start': '476.440', 'end': '485.759', 'text': 'measured it here, it exceeded 5% and'}, {'start': '481.599', 'end': '487.800', 'text': '5 to 15 is an explosion, so when he'}, {'start': '485.759', 'end': '490.800', 'text': 'told the Bangbug staff there'}, {'start': '487.800', 'end': '493.759', 'text': 'was no reaction, so he called 119 and the'}, {'start': '490.800', 'end': '497.360', 'text': 'fire department came and the manhole was lifted up like this'}, {'start': '493.759', 'end': '497.960', 'text': '.  There'}, {'start': '497.360', 'end': '500.960', 'text': "'s no lid.  this.   The"}, {'start': '497.960', 'end': '500.960', 'text': 'lid of the foam bottle has also been removed, so, well, you'}, {'start': '502.639', 'end': '505.639', 'text': 'can take as much as you want.'}, {'start': '509.159', 'end': '512.159', 'text': "I think this is dangerous.  They use fire in the Kitty Car.  Well, you definitely need to use fire to cook ramen, so I think that's dangerous, but well, it seems like the ramen association is okay with it for now."}, {'start': '517.960', 'end': '520.999', 'text': '[MUSIC]'}, {'start': '524.080', 'end': '527.920', 'text': 'So this is Ba.'}, {'start': '525.760', 'end': '529.760', 'text': 'Well, I think it was March 28th of last year'}, {'start': '527.920', 'end': '532.760', 'text': ', Meta,'}, {'start': '529.760', 'end': '532.760', 'text': 'this is the entrance to the restroom.  Here,'}, {'start': '539.560', 'end': '546.560', 'text': '[music]'}, {'start': '544.519', 'end': '548.760', 'text': "Digestion is no use.   that's"}, {'start': '546.560', 'end': '552.040', 'text': 'right.  If it explodes.'}, {'start': '548.760', 'end': '552.040', 'text': 'yes.  Well, the kids have been acting a bit rough around the edges,'}, {'start': '555.800', 'end': '561.440', 'text': 'yes.  That is what it means.  yes.'}, {'start': '558.440', 'end': '561.440', 'text': 'Well, this is the number of children.   I'}, {'start': '563.079', 'end': '569.160', 'text': 'agree.  Right, this,'}, {'start': '566.880', 'end': '569.160', 'text': 'yeah.'}, {'start': '570.560', 'end': '573.399', 'text': 'So, in order to forcefully increase attendance'}, {'start': '571.560', 'end': '575.200', 'text': "to 14 to 15 million, they'll have to let in a"}, {'start': '576.760', 'end': '579.760', 'text': 'ton of children in May and June'}, {'start': '580.040', 'end': '584.680', 'text': '.  Yeah.'}, {'start': '582.079', 'end': '584.680', 'text': 'yes.'}, {'start': '591.440', 'end': '595.079', 'text': 'So, this really is nothing but a relationship between the students and the faculty, and'}, {'start': '597.480', 'end': '600.800', 'text': "since July and August are summer holidays, we can't rely on continuous speed, and it"}, {'start': '598.480', 'end': '603.800', 'text': 'would really be dangerous to go in July and August.'}, {'start': '600.800', 'end': '603.800', 'text': 'yes.'}, {'start': '607.200', 'end': '609.800', 'text': "Well, when it comes to methane, it's"}, {'start': '611.760', 'end': '616.480', 'text': 'said that the temperature at which meta is most produced is around 50°C or so.  Right?   The'}, {'start': '613.920', 'end': '619.480', 'text': 'bacteria will eat it.  Your possessions.  yes.'}, {'start': '616.480', 'end': '619.480', 'text': 'Yeah.'}, {'start': '624.519', 'end': '626.360', 'text': 'So, Osaki-san, and also, Kosan, the toilet here'}, {'start': '626.360', 'end': '629.360', 'text': "only has 2.5m of soil, so even if you put in sewage, it won't flow."}, {'start': '631.519', 'end': '634.760', 'text': 'ah.'}, {'start': '631.760', 'end': '634.760', 'text': 'So, sewage, well, in any city, comes down all the way from upstream, and'}, {'start': '641.000', 'end': '645.240', 'text': 'normal tap water is pressurized.   It'}, {'start': '642.240', 'end': '645.240', 'text': 'is possible to do so.  The sewage flows naturally so'}, {'start': '645.720', 'end': '649.480', 'text': "this is the lowest point.  Because it's by the sea."}, {'start': '649.000', 'end': '652.480', 'text': 'Yeah.'}, {'start': '649.480', 'end': '652.480', 'text': "So, I think the sewer is probably, well, very thin and doesn't reach the wall, so I think this is how it will be assembled.  This toilet."}, {'start': '658.120', 'end': '661.120', 'text': 'Yeah.  I tried running water here, but it still did'}, {'start': '662.399', 'end': '665.600', 'text': "n't work.  It doesn't feel like it's being properly jet-fed"}, {'start': '669.000', 'end': '673.079', 'text': '.  There is a trickle of water flowing from above.'}, {'start': '670.079', 'end': '673.079', 'text': 'So he said that he would recommend it to people who had watched the video.'}, {'start': '673.560', 'end': '677.440', 'text': 'Ahh, haha.'}, {'start': '674.440', 'end': '677.440', 'text': 'Member recommendations may look like water tanks, but they are actually stored inside.'}, {'start': '679.240', 'end': '683.360', 'text': 'So that'}, {'start': '681.800', 'end': '686.360', 'text': "'s probably what it is."}, {'start': '683.360', 'end': '686.360', 'text': 'Well, Mr. Fujinaga has made this information public, but in the end they have a contract with a waste disposal company, so I think the water for the toilets here probably has to be transported by horse ball.'}, {'start': '698.200', 'end': '701.120', 'text': "Yeah.   It's"}, {'start': '701.320', 'end': '704.320', 'text': 'right here.  Well, I was there the other day too.  Right at that moment, an ambulance'}, {'start': '712.639', 'end': '716.120', 'text': 'came in, um, let me show you'}, {'start': '713.639', 'end': '719.120', 'text': '50'}, {'start': '716.120', 'end': '719.120', 'text': 'here, it was in the same place,'}, {'start': '720.639', 'end': '725.440', 'text': 'from the west gate, um,'}, {'start': '723.160', 'end': '727.519', 'text': 'on the other side of the ring.  Standing New Swordsman It'}, {'start': '725.440', 'end': '729.480', 'text': "'s the same place.  It's the same place.  yes."}, {'start': '727.519', 'end': '731.480', 'text': 'Just writing it down'}, {'start': '729.480', 'end': '734.480', 'text': 'is exactly what I was saying.'}, {'start': '731.480', 'end': '734.480', 'text': "Well, it's meta, well, it's about location.  There is a toilet."}, {'start': '740.519', 'end': '745.680', 'text': 'yes.'}, {'start': '742.680', 'end': '745.680', 'text': 'I was later told that photography was not permitted there, haha.'}, {'start': '747.320', 'end': '750.920', 'text': 'Again, the situation remains unchanged.'}, {'start': '749.639', 'end': '752.639', 'text': "That's when I saw no one."}, {'start': '750.920', 'end': '755.560', 'text': 'Even the other day.  yes.'}, {'start': '752.639', 'end': '756.360', 'text': 'Well, the net, I guess the net has changed a little.'}, {'start': '755.560', 'end': '759.360', 'text': "That's true.   You"}, {'start': '756.360', 'end': '759.360', 'text': "can hear the ambulance.  That's right.  I can still hear the sound of an ambulance on my left."}, {'start': '764.600', 'end': '767.600', 'text': "Oh, that's true.  I can hear the ambulance.   That"}, {'start': '768.639', 'end': '773.959', 'text': "'s right.  So this"}, {'start': '770.560', 'end': '775.959', 'text': 'was just before 2pm on the 24th.'}, {'start': '773.959', 'end': '777.120', 'text': 'yes.  yes.  yes.   There'}, {'start': '779.800', 'end': '783.760', 'text': 'are reports that the deceased person collapsed at 2:30, and'}, {'start': '780.760', 'end': '783.760', 'text': 'various other reports that he was taken away at 2:30, but I'}, {'start': '784.440', 'end': '786.959', 'text': 'think the'}, {'start': '789.040', 'end': '790.839', 'text': 'ambulance probably arrived a little before that, and I was here'}, {'start': '790.839', 'end': '793.839', 'text': 'until around 2:30, and particularly'}, {'start': '792.000', 'end': '794.600', 'text': 'around 2:30'}, {'start': '793.839', 'end': '795.680', 'text': '.   It'}, {'start': '794.600', 'end': '798.680', 'text': 'was in front of the West Gate.'}, {'start': '795.680', 'end': '798.680', 'text': 'At the West Gate, I saw'}, {'start': '802.760', 'end': '805.440', 'text': 'the children going home like this, and this was at exactly'}, {'start': '803.760', 'end': '806.720', 'text': '2:25'}, {'start': '805.440', 'end': '807.800', 'text': 'or so.'}, {'start': '806.720', 'end': '810.800', 'text': 'Oh, right.  Yes yes yes.'}, {'start': '807.800', 'end': '810.800', 'text': 'So, although they say that the body was brought there at that time, I think that the'}, {'start': '819.920', 'end': '822.399', 'text': 'sound of the deceased person actually arriving was probably just before 2 p.m.  I was there after that, but'}, {'start': '820.920', 'end': '824.959', 'text': 'not even once.   There was'}, {'start': '822.399', 'end': '828.480', 'text': 'no other sound of the ambulance, so'}, {'start': '824.959', 'end': '828.480', 'text': 'yes.  Yeah.'}, {'start': '829.680', 'end': '832.800', 'text': "That's a very high possibility.  Actually, I"}, {'start': '834.639', 'end': '838.199', 'text': 'went to those two old locations to do some research, or rather to hear more about it.'}, {'start': '835.639', 'end': '841.199', 'text': 'There are also nine books at the gate.  yes.  So, when I'}, {'start': '838.199', 'end': '841.199', 'text': 'went to gate number 9, there was a sign that said "No cameras allowed."'}, {'start': '841.639', 'end': '845.279', 'text': 'Yeah.   It'}, {'start': '842.279', 'end': '845.279', 'text': 'said that cameras were prohibited and that smartphones were to be turned off, so I went in and listened to what was going on.'}, {'start': '850.959', 'end': '854.079', 'text': 'Then after that, she'}, {'start': '852.079', 'end': '858.399', 'text': 'said there was only one nurse left.'}, {'start': '854.079', 'end': '860.480', 'text': 'So, there are three or four staff members.'}, {'start': '858.399', 'end': '863.480', 'text': 'Yes.  There is no doctor.  not present.'}, {'start': '860.480', 'end': '863.480', 'text': 'not present.  There are no doctors there, so what are we going to do?  There is no doctor here so you can sleep in that bed.  So,'}, {'start': '869.320', 'end': '873.279', 'text': 'is that so?'}, {'start': '870.279', 'end': '873.279', 'text': "Yes, that's true.  You'll be sleeping in this bed here.  So, I'm going to have to take a break for a while."}, {'start': '877.120', 'end': '880.920', 'text': "So, what do you do, if it doesn't cure you then, well,"}, {'start': '878.120', 'end': '883.120', 'text': 'there are three remaining places, and five of them are nine types, and three of them have'}, {'start': '880.920', 'end': '885.399', 'text': 'medical records where a doctor is present.  Yeah.'}, {'start': '883.120', 'end': '888.399', 'text': 'So I took it to the medical record.'}, {'start': '885.399', 'end': '888.399', 'text': "So I asked the doctor what we would do if we took him to the hospital and gave him an IV drip, for example, and if that didn't work, and that was when we first called an ambulance."}, {'start': '893.560', 'end': '896.480', 'text': 'Oh, is that so?'}, {'start': '895.320', 'end': '899.480', 'text': "That's why you have to go through those three steps"}, {'start': '896.480', 'end': '899.480', 'text': '.'}, {'start': '901.160', 'end': '902.320', 'text': 'So if someone at the Expo site were to feel unwell and collapse, they would be'}, {'start': '902.320', 'end': '905.320', 'text': 'taken to the nursing home, but there are only nurses there so they cannot provide treatment.'}, {'start': '906.880', 'end': '910.759', 'text': 'Yeah.'}, {'start': '907.759', 'end': '910.759', 'text': "Since they can't treat the patient, they are taken to the next doctor, but the doctor can only give first aid, so they realize that this isn't working and only then do they call an ambulance."}, {'start': '918.759', 'end': '921.759', 'text': "That's because there was no initial response at all."}, {'start': '923.759', 'end': '926.759', 'text': 'When a patient shows signs of heat stroke, they are taken to a facility where there are no doctors and they are unable to do anything, and the'}, {'start': '931.120', 'end': '934.120', 'text': 'doctor there observes their condition and then examines them.'}, {'start': '934.639', 'end': '938.600', 'text': 'yes.  Ah,'}, {'start': '935.600', 'end': '938.600', 'text': 'so if you collapse in a normal place, you would call an ambulance right away.'}, {'start': '939.079', 'end': '943.040', 'text': "That's right."}, {'start': '940.040', 'end': '943.040', 'text': 'But it turns out that you have to go to the emergency room right away and not call an ambulance,'}, {'start': '957.000', 'end': '961.199', 'text': "and then you go to the doctor's appointment, and only then can you get an ambulance, so there's a time lag, and it says not to worry.  That"}, {'start': '958.000', 'end': '963.680', 'text': "woman in her 50s: Yes.  That's why people"}, {'start': '961.199', 'end': '964.880', 'text': "say he's in his 60s."}, {'start': '963.680', 'end': '967.880', 'text': 'Ah,'}, {'start': '964.880', 'end': '967.880', 'text': 'well, there are some opinions that it is a different person, but even if there is a difference,'}, {'start': '969.560', 'end': '972.560', 'text': 'I imagine that if he had received treatment sooner, he might have been saved.'}, {'start': '980.839', 'end': '983.839', 'text': 'According to the reports, they went there first, but his condition did not improve, so they'}, {'start': '987.560', 'end': '990.560', 'text': 'took him somewhere else and still he was in trouble.  Certainly about that one.'}, {'start': '993.519', 'end': '997.800', 'text': 'Yeah.  As for Chapter 9, well, there'}, {'start': '996.519', 'end': '1000.120', 'text': 'are five locations, so I'}, {'start': '997.800', 'end': '1002.079', 'text': "think you'll probably be taken to Book 9 first."}, {'start': '1000.120', 'end': '1005.079', 'text': 'Yeah.  However,'}, {'start': '1002.079', 'end': '1005.079', 'text': 'since there is only one nurse there, the doctor cannot make decisions such as parking the patient.'}, {'start': '1007.199', 'end': '1011.920', 'text': "That's right.  yes."}, {'start': '1008.920', 'end': '1011.920', 'text': "Shouldn't they just call an ambulance from there?  But,"}, {'start': '1015.720', 'end': '1017.440', 'text': "that's true.  So it would be quicker to call the emergency room directly from there, but, um,"}, {'start': '1017.440', 'end': '1020.440', 'text': 'according to what the nurse told me when I went there on April 25th, in cases like that they first take the patient to where the doctor is.  I did it.'}, {'start': '1024.640', 'end': '1027.640', 'text': "ah.  After all, the incident that led to his death probably occurred the day before.  That's why.  yes."}, {'start': '1033.480', 'end': '1036.480', 'text': "But, I think that's the same thing, or rather, only manual dolls will work."}, {'start': '1038.480', 'end': '1041.480', 'text': 'ah.'}, {'start': '1041.880', 'end': '1046.360', 'text': 'I mean, this'}, {'start': '1043.880', 'end': '1049.360', 'text': 'is the West Gate at around 2:20 on the day, but'}, {'start': '1046.360', 'end': '1049.360', 'text': 'there are so many children and students there, and yet there are no doctors?'}, {'start': '1054.080', 'end': '1058.360', 'text': "Yes, that's right."}, {'start': '1055.360', 'end': '1058.360', 'text': "It's where children come first.  It's called Sun Gate."}, {'start': '1061.160', 'end': '1062.600', 'text': 'Well, so when the bus, that shuttle bus, arrived, well, well, you'}, {'start': '1062.600', 'end': '1065.600', 'text': 'have to walk for 230 minutes all the way to the sunny area.'}, {'start': '1067.000', 'end': '1071.880', 'text': 'Yeah.  Yeah.  ah.'}, {'start': '1070.880', 'end': '1072.320', 'text': "And isn't the metagas location about 100 meters from the west gate"}, {'start': '1072.320', 'end': '1077.400', 'text': '? That place too.'}, {'start': '1073.960', 'end': '1077.919', 'text': "Yes, that's right.  yes.  And yet?  Yeah."}, {'start': '1077.400', 'end': '1080.919', 'text': 'yes.'}, {'start': '1077.919', 'end': '1083.440', 'text': 'By the way, there is a stone pagora there.'}, {'start': '1080.919', 'end': '1086.440', 'text': 'There is a pergola.  yes.  There are also nine by the stone pergola'}, {'start': '1083.440', 'end': '1086.440', 'text': ', but there are only nurses there.'}, {'start': '1086.559', 'end': '1091.679', 'text': 'yes.  Oh, is that so?  yes.'}, {'start': '1088.679', 'end': '1091.679', 'text': "So there are very few places where there are doctors, and what's more, I heard from a doctor I know that"}, {'start': '1099.600', 'end': '1103.440', 'text': '...   They'}, {'start': '1100.440', 'end': '1103.440', 'text': "'re really recruiting doctors.  They asked me to work at the World Expo."}, {'start': '1106.360', 'end': '1109.880', 'text': "Oh, that's right."}, {'start': '1106.880', 'end': '1109.880', 'text': "That's why I go to doctors of all specialties.  That's why we tell this to gynecology and lower-level"}, {'start': '1113.520', 'end': '1117.760', 'text': 'trainees as well.'}, {'start': '1115.960', 'end': '1118.280', 'text': "So that's"}, {'start': '1117.760', 'end': '1121.280', 'text': 'yes.'}, {'start': '1118.280', 'end': '1121.280', 'text': 'Therefore, there is a high possibility that the doctor is not qualified to treat heat stroke.'}, {'start': '1123.640', 'end': '1126.640', 'text': 'Hmm.   It'}, {'start': '1129.320', 'end': '1130.480', 'text': 'just so happened that day.  So I'}, {'start': '1130.480', 'end': '1133.480', 'text': 'think that with just one person who has probably only had training, they might not be able to respond to such a sudden emergency call.'}, {'start': '1135.720', 'end': '1138.720', 'text': "That's right.  I also don't have much experience."}, {'start': '1139.559', 'end': '1140.720', 'text': 'yes.  Well, I think they'}, {'start': '1140.720', 'end': '1143.720', 'text': 'should change the manual a bit so that an ambulance comes immediately if someone collapses, otherwise it'}, {'start': '1146.200', 'end': '1150.400', 'text': 'seems like it could be dangerous.'}, {'start': '1147.400', 'end': '1150.400', 'text': "Well, it's a group that will win big."}, {'start': '1151.240', 'end': '1154.240', 'text': "That's right.  No, but there's no doctor at the West Gate.  There are only nurses there so I have to go there first.  That's a bit surprising."}, {'start': '1160.880', 'end': '1164.159', 'text': "Apparently it's the place where the most children come"}, {'start': '1163.000', 'end': '1167.159', 'text': ".  that's right.   It"}, {'start': '1164.159', 'end': '1167.159', 'text': "'s also a priority area.  In fact, there are concerns that such a system might actually delay patients being transported to the hospital."}, {'start': '1175.840', 'end': '1180.240', 'text': 'Yeah.  Yeah.'}, {'start': '1177.240', 'end': '1180.240', 'text': "In fact, they even said they wouldn't announce it at first."}, {'start': '1181.280', 'end': '1185.679', 'text': "That's right.  I"}, {'start': '1182.720', 'end': '1189.200', 'text': 'only found out about it when the Sankei Shimbun reported it on the 25th.  At night.'}, {'start': '1185.679', 'end': '1190.760', 'text': 'yes.  Yeah.'}, {'start': '1189.200', 'end': '1194.440', 'text': 'And now.   There are'}, {'start': '1190.760', 'end': '1196.919', 'text': 'probably a lot of field trips in May and June'}, {'start': '1194.440', 'end': '1198.120', 'text': '.  Because I go to school too.'}, {'start': '1196.919', 'end': '1200.520', 'text': "yes.  If you're unlucky,"}, {'start': '1198.120', 'end': '1201.720', 'text': 'there are some schools you might have to go to in July.'}, {'start': '1200.520', 'end': '1204.720', 'text': 'ah.'}, {'start': '1201.720', 'end': '1204.720', 'text': "And the long-range forecast says it's going to be hot again this year."}, {'start': '1206.000', 'end': '1212.360', 'text': 'In fact, CNN reported that'}, {'start': '1209.360', 'end': '1212.360', 'text': '2024 was the hottest summer in history.'}, {'start': '1212.440', 'end': '1215.679', 'text': "Yeah.  That's right.  It"}, {'start': '1213.880', 'end': '1216.840', 'text': 'was the hottest year in history for the 23rd year.   That'}, {'start': '1215.679', 'end': '1219.840', 'text': "'s right.  Ah,"}, {'start': '1216.840', 'end': '1219.840', 'text': "that's why I update the history book every year during the hottest summer."}, {'start': '1220.559', 'end': '1224.360', 'text': 'Yeah.'}, {'start': '1221.360', 'end': '1224.360', 'text': 'So if that happens this year and people force their children to go and then the child collapses, the question becomes who is responsible?'}, {'start': '1230.360', 'end': '1236.880', 'text': 'Hmm.  Yeah.  Nishi-san,'}, {'start': '1233.880', 'end': '1236.880', 'text': 'how many times did you go to Osaka on the 25th?'}, {'start': '1237.440', 'end': '1241.440', 'text': 'Oh, you know, for me, the temperature I usually prefer is'}, {'start': '1238.440', 'end': '1241.440', 'text': "222° and it's extremely comfortable."}, {'start': '1242.559', 'end': '1246.360', 'text': 'When I went it'}, {'start': '1243.360', 'end': '1246.360', 'text': 'was 21 degrees.  But when it comes to the actual glare,'}, {'start': '1249.120', 'end': '1253.880', 'text': 'oh, yes, yes.   If you'}, {'start': '1250.880', 'end': '1256.080', 'text': "look at it like this, it's about 3. At"}, {'start': '1253.880', 'end': '1256.360', 'text': 'this time, it was 21° in Osaka city. I'}, {'start': '1256.360', 'end': '1259.360', 'text': 'took the photo with my iPhone, and at that time, the temperature was actually there'}, {'start': '1263.480', 'end': '1267.600', 'text': '.'}, {'start': '1264.400', 'end': '1270.600', 'text': 'When I held it up, it said 38.   The'}, {'start': '1267.600', 'end': '1270.600', 'text': 'temperature feels completely different.'}, {'start': '1271.159', 'end': '1274.159', 'text': 'Based on my own feelings at the time, it was hot in the sun and cold in the shade.'}, {'start': '1277.159', 'end': '1283.799', 'text': 'ah.  yes.'}, {'start': '1280.799', 'end': '1283.799', 'text': 'So, in that sense, this is a bit...'}, {'start': '1287.120', 'end': '1291.400', 'text': 'Oh, no, I'}, {'start': '1288.400', 'end': '1291.400', 'text': "thought it would be okay because it was 21 degrees, but then I moved down to the center and started working at about child's eye level, and then...   I"}, {'start': '1294.720', 'end': '1297.720', 'text': 'was using the computer for a bit.  Then I thought, well, it was really hot, so I placed it on my lap and the'}, {'start': '1304.600', 'end': '1307.600', 'text': 'temperature kept rising, and the thermometer read 38°, 37°.   After'}, {'start': '1312.919', 'end': '1316.919', 'text': 'that I got up and walked, well I walked around, but the temperature'}, {'start': '1313.919', 'end': '1316.919', 'text': 'remained at 32°, 33° for a long time.'}, {'start': '1317.360', 'end': '1321.120', 'text': 'yes.'}, {'start': '1318.120', 'end': '1321.120', 'text': 'So the temperature of people walking around is definitely different from normal.  Umm, that place at the World Expo.'}, {'start': '1323.039', 'end': '1327.960', 'text': 'Yeah.  And then, Ogata-san.'}, {'start': '1325.200', 'end': '1328.720', 'text': "yes.  It's April again.  That's right."}, {'start': '1327.960', 'end': '1331.720', 'text': 'Yeah.  It'}, {'start': '1328.720', 'end': '1331.720', 'text': 'gets extremely hot every year from around the latter half of May.'}, {'start': '1332.960', 'end': '1336.799', 'text': 'So, generally speaking, we do'}, {'start': '1334.120', 'end': '1339.120', 'text': "n't go on field trips in April.  Every school."}, {'start': '1336.799', 'end': '1342.000', 'text': 'Um, I just got back from class.'}, {'start': '1339.120', 'end': '1342.000', 'text': "That's right."}, {'start': '1343.520', 'end': '1346.679', 'text': "That's why I won't go until I've made that friendship right away.  So, I think they"}, {'start': '1344.520', 'end': '1347.720', 'text': "'ll focus on May and June."}, {'start': '1346.679', 'end': '1350.720', 'text': 'Yeah.'}, {'start': '1347.720', 'end': '1350.720', 'text': "But, but, so, that abandoned road in the summer, well, it's called Water Trap."}, {'start': '1353.760', 'end': '1356.859', 'text': '[Music]'}, {'start': '1357.320', 'end': '1360.840', 'text': 'Yeah.   I'}, {'start': '1357.840', 'end': '1360.840', 'text': 'wonder what this is.  Um, well, there was a kid who had been waiting for a long time.'}, {'start': '1362.840', 'end': '1369.039', 'text': 'Well, on March 28th of last year, there was a'}, {'start': '1366.039', 'end': '1369.039', 'text': 'school waiting patiently in the square.  So I wondered why I was waiting, and it turned out that I was waiting for the group to arrive at the rest area.'}, {'start': '1377.840', 'end': '1380.840', 'text': "Yes, is that so?   I'd"}, {'start': '1387.679', 'end': '1391.039', 'text': 'like to have them take a look at it next time, but there are designated reservation times for group breaks, and we can only take a break at those times, so I had to wait a long time.   It was'}, {'start': '1388.720', 'end': '1391.240', 'text': 'good that it was still April, but if it'}, {'start': '1391.240', 'end': '1394.240', 'text': 'had been Kankandel Day in June, I think I would have collapsed there.  Yeah.'}, {'start': '1395.080', 'end': '1398.080', 'text': 'yes.'}, {'start': '1398.120', 'end': '1402.200', 'text': 'No, what I saw was this one straight'}, {'start': '1399.200', 'end': '1402.200', 'text': 'hit, and kids were sitting and waiting in this square.  I wondered what he was doing and why he was sitting in a place like this.'}, {'start': '1407.200', 'end': '1410.200', 'text': 'I also wondered why I was waiting, and then I realized I was waiting for my appointment.'}, {'start': '1410.600', 'end': '1414.679', 'text': 'ah.'}, {'start': '1411.919', 'end': '1417.679', 'text': "Um, lunch, lunch, I'm waiting for it to be time to eat lunch."}, {'start': '1414.679', 'end': '1420.679', 'text': 'Yeah.'}, {'start': '1417.679', 'end': '1420.679', 'text': 'So, this is it.  Yeah.'}, {'start': '1423.279', 'end': '1426.279', 'text': "These are the kids.  Yeah.  That's right.  So, this is the passageway, so if you look at this screen, the right side"}, {'start': '1433.200', 'end': '1437.360', 'text': 'is the West Gate, and'}, {'start': '1434.360', 'end': '1437.360', 'text': 'immediately to the left of that, where you see the children walking in the middle, is this the large passageway, right?'}, {'start': '1440.240', 'end': '1443.799', 'text': 'Yes.'}, {'start': '1440.799', 'end': '1443.799', 'text': 'So, if I keep going this way, can I reach the group rest area?'}, {'start': '1444.400', 'end': '1447.679', 'text': 'Yes.'}, {'start': '1444.679', 'end': '1447.679', 'text': "Um, if you go straight, you'll find Ku Sushi, and next to it is the group rest area."}, {'start': '1450.000', 'end': '1455.080', 'text': 'Oh my,'}, {'start': '1452.080', 'end': '1455.080', 'text': "this sushi was a lot of work.  I think it'll come out a little later."}, {'start': '1455.840', 'end': '1459.200', 'text': 'Oh, I see.'}, {'start': '1456.880', 'end': '1462.200', 'text': 'And just to the left of this is the methane section.'}, {'start': '1459.200', 'end': '1462.200', 'text': 'oh yeah.  On the left is the methane toilet and the exploded manhole'}, {'start': '1465.840', 'end': '1468.840', 'text': ", then there's a food truck, and beyond that is Kura Sushi.  I see, it's called Wind Square"}, {'start': '1471.159', 'end': '1474.520', 'text': '.  I see.'}, {'start': '1473.320', 'end': '1475.720', 'text': "yes.  Well, I'll go over there for a bit.   Please take a"}, {'start': '1474.520', 'end': '1478.720', 'text': 'look.'}, {'start': '1475.720', 'end': '1478.720', 'text': 'Well, you can see this umbrella just to the left of the children walking, and this is a food truck where people eat under an umbrella, and the methane location is just behind the kitchen.  Also, it shows how dangerous it is at the site of the explosion last year.'}, {'start': '1491.760', 'end': '1496.520', 'text': 'In this ring, the children are'}, {'start': '1493.520', 'end': '1496.520', 'text': 'walking in the opposite direction from the ring.   The'}, {'start': '1496.960', 'end': '1499.960', 'text': "reason why the kids aren't going towards the ring is because they are heading to have lunch at the group rest area."}, {'start': '1502.919', 'end': '1506.520', 'text': "That's right."}, {'start': '1503.520', 'end': '1506.520', 'text': "Behind this, well, in terms of direction, the ring is located at the back on the right side.  Yes, here.   that's"}, {'start': '1509.559', 'end': '1512.919', 'text': 'right.  yes.'}, {'start': '1510.159', 'end': '1515.919', 'text': "So, let's move on to the next video."}, {'start': '1512.919', 'end': '1515.919', 'text': 'yes.'}, {'start': '1516.760', 'end': '1519.760', 'text': 'Ah, this is the second half of the first video before that, ah, the second'}, {'start': '1522.760', 'end': '1528.200', 'text': 'half of the last video,'}, {'start': '1525.200', 'end': '1528.200', 'text': 'um, well, in that position,'}, {'start': '1533.799', 'end': '1537.880', 'text': 'in the second half of that position, this, this, after this.'}, {'start': '1534.880', 'end': '1537.880', 'text': 'After this, I reported on'}, {'start': '1544.840', 'end': '1549.480', 'text': 'this, and'}, {'start': '1546.480', 'end': '1549.480', 'text': 'after that, I saw the fire extinguisher and laughed a little at the sushi.'}, {'start': '1557.799', 'end': '1560.799', 'text': 'Oh, come here.'}, {'start': '1565.080', 'end': '1568.080', 'text': 'Ah, so this ends here.'}, {'start': '1568.320', 'end': '1572.480', 'text': 'Oh, sorry.  Please wait a moment.  Um, well,'}, {'start': '1569.320', 'end': '1572.480', 'text': "wasn't there one more piece of that sushi?"}, {'start': '1575.399', 'end': '1579.559', 'text': "After this one it'll be number two.  yes."}, {'start': '1581.919', 'end': '1585.200', 'text': "Oh, I'm really sorry.  Well, it was just words, we had the so-called Kura Sushi and it"}, {'start': '1582.919', 'end': '1587.640', 'text': 'started at 10:45.  So,'}, {'start': '1594.880', 'end': '1597.190', 'text': 'by 10:45 there was a long line, so I went to Kusu and asked the receptionist if I could eat there if I made a reservation now, and she said'}, {'start': '1595.880', 'end': '1599.279', 'text': '4:30pm.'}, {'start': '1597.190', 'end': '1601.720', 'text': '[Laughter]'}, {'start': '1599.279', 'end': '1603.399', 'text': "So it's 10:45 and 4:30 in the afternoon"}, {'start': '1601.720', 'end': '1603.919', 'text': '.   It'}, {'start': '1603.919', 'end': '1606.919', 'text': "'s already six hours later, and he's already home.  Yeah."}, {'start': '1607.200', 'end': '1610.200', 'text': 'yes.  So there are still people waiting.'}, {'start': '1623.000', 'end': '1626.559', 'text': "So, I think that the Manpa Association and the Restoration Party, which planned this, are a bit skeptical, but I also think that it's a bit too much to wait for, so let's just wait for now.  And it turns out that children had already been eating their lunches at the group rest area next to Kusu since 11:00 a.m."}, {'start': '1626.559', 'end': '1631.120', 'text': 'Ah,'}, {'start': '1628.480', 'end': '1633.399', 'text': 'yes.  Sorry.  Um, let me summarize.'}, {'start': '1631.120', 'end': '1635.320', 'text': "No, it's totally fine.  Thank you for editing it."}, {'start': '1633.399', 'end': '1638.320', 'text': 'Yes.'}, {'start': '1635.320', 'end': '1638.320', 'text': 'When I went there on April 13th, I went there with the intention of eating some sushi soba noodles.'}, {'start': '1642.279', 'end': '1645.919', 'text': 'Oh, when I got there they told me there was a wait of 200 groups, and when I'}, {'start': '1645.919', 'end': '1648.919', 'text': "asked them how long 200 groups would mean to wait, I said I didn't know,"}, {'start': '1649.520', 'end': '1654.679', 'text': 'but there was another sushi restaurant next to it,'}, {'start': '1652.399', 'end': '1656.720', 'text': "yeah.  Eh, it's called sushi or something"}, {'start': '1654.679', 'end': '1659.720', 'text': '.  The shop next to it, Sushi'}, {'start': '1656.720', 'end': '1659.720', 'text': '-ro, had even stopped distributing menstrual eligibility.  They will no longer distribute organizing rights.'}, {'start': '1664.519', 'end': '1668.880', 'text': 'Yes, when I went there it was already 12'}, {'start': '1665.880', 'end': '1668.880', 'text': "o'clock and all the registration was completed"}, {'start': '1670.440', 'end': '1675.720', 'text': '.  Yeah.  Well, it turned out the'}, {'start': '1672.880', 'end': '1678.600', 'text': 'wait would be 45 hours, so I gave up, but'}, {'start': '1675.720', 'end': '1679.760', 'text': 'yes.  When I went to the station on the 24th of the month, I was'}, {'start': '1678.600', 'end': '1682.760', 'text': 'told there was a 20-person wait, so I'}, {'start': '1679.760', 'end': '1682.760', 'text': "thought if I waited for about an hour I might be able to get in, but I didn't have much time, so"}, {'start': '1684.080', 'end': '1686.640', 'text': '...  yes.   I'}, {'start': '1684.399', 'end': '1689.200', 'text': 'gave up and went to see America.'}, {'start': '1686.640', 'end': '1692.200', 'text': 'yes.  Well, you see.  yes.'}, {'start': '1689.200', 'end': '1692.200', 'text': 'So it really will happen again and we will have to walk.  This is'}, {'start': '1693.399', 'end': '1699.200', 'text': "amazing, isn't it spacious? Let's go and check it out."}, {'start': '1696.200', 'end': '1699.200', 'text': 'I mean, there are so many cramped places in Umeda and Namba, so I wonder why people would go to the trouble of getting an admission ticket.'}, {'start': '1705.760', 'end': '1708.760', 'text': 'Well, I did a bit of research on that before going to the circular area, so it was a bit circular'}, {'start': '1710.559', 'end': '1713.559', 'text': '.  Hey, if you could just take a look at that one from before,'}, {'start': '1713.640', 'end': '1717.799', 'text': 'yes.  Okay, next question.'}, {'start': '1714.799', 'end': '1717.799', 'text': 'yes.  Sorry.'}, {'start': '1721.159', 'end': '1724.159', 'text': "This is it.  Well, let's start with this in a bit"}, {'start': '1725.000', 'end': '1731.160', 'text': '. Yes.'}, {'start': '1726.950', 'end': '1731.160', 'text': '[Music]'}, {'start': '1733.399', 'end': '1738.360', 'text': 'Yes.  Well, it fell, and'}, {'start': '1736.760', 'end': '1741.360', 'text': 'sand was being pulled out.'}, {'start': '1738.360', 'end': '1741.360', 'text': 'Oh, you were pulling sand.  Run'}, {'start': '1744.840', 'end': '1747.399', 'text': 'Yes.'}, {'start': '1755.840', 'end': '1761.279', 'text': "It's 350 and it's"}, {'start': '1758.279', 'end': '1761.279', 'text': 'turned out pretty well, but I was going to put the project map here, but it seems like the project map is not visible in the pencil-like area.   You ca'}, {'start': '1767.559', 'end': '1770.399', 'text': "n't see this, can you?"}, {'start': '1769.080', 'end': '1772.120', 'text': "I don't think you can see it.  I can't see it."}, {'start': '1770.399', 'end': '1773.440', 'text': "Well, I'm like this too,"}, {'start': '1772.120', 'end': '1774.679', 'text': 'yes.   It'}, {'start': '1773.440', 'end': '1777.679', 'text': "'s so far away.  This is it.   You"}, {'start': '1774.679', 'end': '1777.679', 'text': "see, these islands are different.  It's an island over there,"}, {'start': '1778.159', 'end': '1782.760', 'text': 'after all.  Yeah.  So, this will'}, {'start': '1781.000', 'end': '1784.039', 'text': 'cost 130 million yen.'}, {'start': '1782.760', 'end': '1787.039', 'text': 'For project marking.   Because'}, {'start': '1784.039', 'end': '1787.039', 'text': "of that you can see Yumeshima.  The toilet, the toilet in Osaka's sick toilet, looked like it had disappeared from sight."}, {'start': '1793.320', 'end': '1797.440', 'text': 'Yes yes yes.'}, {'start': '1794.440', 'end': '1797.440', 'text': "So, the fountain will be turned on here, right here.  At Waterland.   I've"}, {'start': '1799.240', 'end': '1802.240', 'text': "covered this place before, so I'd like you to take a look at what it was like here."}, {'start': '1805.679', 'end': '1813.330', 'text': "I see.  got it.  yes.  Okay then.  Huh? Oh, that's it."}, {'start': '1808.240', 'end': '1813.330', 'text': '[Music] There it is'}, {'start': '1819.159', 'end': '1822.480', 'text': ', there it is.'}, {'start': '1820.279', 'end': '1825.519', 'text': "Ah, there it is, there it is, there it is, there it is, there it is.  That's true.   There it is"}, {'start': '1822.480', 'end': '1826.919', 'text': ", there it is.  That's true."}, {'start': '1825.519', 'end': '1830.320', 'text': "As I expected, this doesn't come out."}, {'start': '1826.919', 'end': '1830.320', 'text': 'What is this? It comes up periodically.'}, {'start': '1831.120', 'end': '1834.120', 'text': "That's what I thought.  I really think this is dirty water."}, {'start': '1836.640', 'end': '1839.640', 'text': "Yeah.  There's trash in it.  It wasn't.  What is this?"}, {'start': '1840.799', 'end': '1844.799', 'text': 'Yeah.'}, {'start': '1842.919', 'end': '1847.120', 'text': 'This is how it is now.'}, {'start': '1844.799', 'end': '1849.519', 'text': 'ah.'}, {'start': '1847.120', 'end': '1851.840', 'text': 'Such a dirty place.  The reason why this pond could not be filled in is because'}, {'start': '1849.519', 'end': '1856.080', 'text': 'Umejima is an island of garbage, and the'}, {'start': '1851.840', 'end': '1858.880', 'text': 'rain that falls on this island of garbage'}, {'start': '1856.080', 'end': '1863.039', 'text': 'cannot be discharged directly into the Osaka River.  In the Seto Inland Sea'}, {'start': '1858.880', 'end': '1867.240', 'text': ".  So, we'll make a pond here and"}, {'start': '1863.039', 'end': '1869.559', 'text': 'then release the water from that pond through this sluice gate.  Ah, it'}, {'start': '1867.240', 'end': '1870.320', 'text': "'s the pond of destiny.  If it's garbage disposal"}, {'start': '1869.559', 'end': '1873.320', 'text': '.'}, {'start': '1870.320', 'end': '1873.320', 'text': 'So, um, this is called the Sea of \u200b\u200bConnections, and this Sea of \u200b\u200bConnections is connected to that dirty water.   There'}, {'start': '1877.480', 'end': '1880.480', 'text': 'were some really amazing insects flying around, and the'}, {'start': '1885.559', 'end': '1886.679', 'text': 'participants have been saying for a while that there were a lot of insects.  yes.  So, um, this'}, {'start': '1886.679', 'end': '1889.679', 'text': 'is the highest point.  It has a slimy and creamy texture.'}, {'start': '1893.200', 'end': '1897.320', 'text': 'So, Ocha Yoichi'}, {'start': '1894.320', 'end': '1897.320', 'text': "says that the Expo is the most cost-effective, and what's been making him angry lately is that the slippery sea wind is rusting the iron and leaving it outside."}, {'start': '1906.960', 'end': '1908.519', 'text': "That's the only thing that ends here, this.  yes."}, {'start': '1908.200', 'end': '1911.519', 'text': 'Ah,'}, {'start': '1908.519', 'end': '1911.519', 'text': "so, how can I put it? This was for disposing of garbage, so, the rain that fell couldn't just be dumped into the Setouchi Kai, so a pond was absolutely necessary, and burying the entire island was no good.  That's why we have no choice but to call this place Uto Land"}, {'start': '1931.080', 'end': '1934.080', 'text': ".  Ah, so that's why I did it on purpose. Yes."}, {'start': '1935.279', 'end': '1938.279', 'text': "I mean, the water wasn't added for the event or for the overall effect.   I"}, {'start': '1942.279', 'end': '1945.919', 'text': "can't get the water to flow."}, {'start': '1944.000', 'end': '1948.919', 'text': "Yes, because it's dirty water, we have to store it there and then"}, {'start': '1945.919', 'end': '1948.919', 'text': 'drain it before we can release it.  It was a place where dirty water collected and accumulated.'}, {'start': '1953.799', 'end': '1957.840', 'text': "yes.  yes.  That's not why we built that pond."}, {'start': '1954.840', 'end': '1957.840', 'text': 'Well, the pond was already there, and dirty water got into it, and over time we added things like sea surface activators to turn it alkaline, neutralize it, and then the water finally starts to flow.'}, {'start': '1969.240', 'end': '1972.960', 'text': 'Ah,'}, {'start': '1969.960', 'end': '1972.960', 'text': "so that's why they named it Waterland and made things like fountain quartz."}, {'start': '1976.720', 'end': '1981.480', 'text': "Isn't it Water Land?"}, {'start': '1978.480', 'end': '1981.480', 'text': "Yes, that's right.  That's why it's called Water Land.  It's big.   That"}, {'start': '1985.760', 'end': '1988.760', 'text': "'s quite a bit true. Everyone pointed that out when we did the live show yesterday."}, {'start': '1990.600', 'end': '1994.120', 'text': 'Yes.'}, {'start': '1991.120', 'end': '1994.120', 'text': "I didn't walk that far when I heard someone say that the teeth were amazing, so it must be a big ring."}, {'start': '1995.880', 'end': '1999.440', 'text': 'yes.  yes.  yes.'}, {'start': '1996.440', 'end': '1999.440', 'text': 'Wooden ring.  Is this really so amazing? The'}, {'start': '1999.600', 'end': '2002.600', 'text': "same goes for insects.  So if you go along the banks of that river, you'll find all kinds of these insects flying around in droves."}, {'start': '2005.039', 'end': '2010.320', 'text': "yes.  So if you catch insects, it's"}, {'start': '2007.320', 'end': '2010.320', 'text': "probably the most comfortable time to do so.  There's also that water."}, {'start': '2010.600', 'end': '2015.480', 'text': 'What kind of insects are they?'}, {'start': '2012.480', 'end': '2015.480', 'text': 'Well, there are just these really tiny insects swarming around.  Oh, a ton.'}, {'start': '2020.440', 'end': '2025.080', 'text': 'In large quantities.  yes.'}, {'start': '2022.080', 'end': '2025.080', 'text': "Ah, that's because it's this kind of place.  I think it's the original one"}, {'start': '2025.559', 'end': '2028.559', 'text': ".  I guess they'll be coming to the waterside after all.  That's why, in places like riverbeds, there's grass growing and there's water, so there are a lot of insects."}, {'start': '2037.080', 'end': '2042.799', 'text': 'ah.  Oh, what about the smell?'}, {'start': '2039.799', 'end': '2042.799', 'text': "Well, it doesn't smell that bad.  As expected.  Well, for the time being, it seems that they've solidified it with concrete and poured it in several times, but underneath there is the Daikokujin Shrine and the garbage and sludge, so I think that garbage and sludge might be mixed in with the water, and so they're thinking that they might put water in there."}, {'start': '2055.719', 'end': '2058.889', 'text': '[Music]'}, {'start': '2063.320', 'end': '2066.720', 'text': 'Yeah.  This is what happens when the fountain goes up.'}, {'start': '2065.119', 'end': '2069.359', 'text': "That's the kind of thing it is."}, {'start': '2066.720', 'end': '2071.440', 'text': 'Yeah.  So, you'}, {'start': '2069.359', 'end': '2072.919', 'text': 'end up getting showered with water like a fountain.  In the wind direction.'}, {'start': '2071.440', 'end': '2075.919', 'text': "Yeah.  That's right."}, {'start': '2072.919', 'end': '2075.919', 'text': 'yes.  So I was wondering if it was okay to take a shower with this water, and I guess as expected,'}, {'start': '2081.839', 'end': '2086.359', 'text': 'yes.  This is it.'}, {'start': '2083.359', 'end': '2086.359', 'text': 'Yeah.  So this is where the water was.  Waterland is'}, {'start': '2090.800', 'end': '2093.800', 'text': 'Waterland.  Was this place covered in water and had a smell back then?'}, {'start': '2096.200', 'end': '2099.200', 'text': 'Ah, it smells awful here too.'}, {'start': '2103.599', 'end': '2106.720', 'text': 'At that time it had a really strong smell.  So, you see, the'}, {'start': '2107.000', 'end': '2108.119', 'text': 'pond in the neighboring district, District 1, is extremely dirty.  So,'}, {'start': '2108.119', 'end': '2111.119', 'text': 'from District 1 on the left to Meat on the right, this is the Expo venue, here.'}, {'start': '2112.079', 'end': '2115.280', 'text': 'Oh, this way.  Um,'}, {'start': '2113.400', 'end': '2118.280', 'text': 'this, this way is Waterland.'}, {'start': '2115.280', 'end': '2118.280', 'text': "And the water in Waterland here can't be drained immediately."}, {'start': '2127.560', 'end': '2128.720', 'text': 'So, the garbage is stored here, and then it is dehumidified, the pressure is measured, and'}, {'start': '2128.720', 'end': '2131.720', 'text': 'finally it is released into the Osaka River through one floodgate.'}, {'start': '2131.760', 'end': '2136.599', 'text': 'ah.'}, {'start': '2133.599', 'end': '2136.599', 'text': 'So the pond on the left is a deadly pond.  So, the pond on the right is probably that O-ike pond.'}, {'start': '2139.960', 'end': '2143.760', 'text': 'Oike.  yes.'}, {'start': '2142.599', 'end': '2145.040', 'text': 'Everyone is calling it Sewer Land.'}, {'start': '2143.760', 'end': '2148.040', 'text': 'Yes, Ran,'}, {'start': '2145.040', 'end': '2148.040', 'text': 'but this is what it used to be like'}, {'start': '2149.520', 'end': '2152.920', 'text': ".  It's like this now,"}, {'start': '2153.960', 'end': '2156.960', 'text': 'and there are a lot of people.'}, {'start': '2157.839', 'end': '2162.480', 'text': 'I guess you do some kind of water spray every night'}, {'start': '2160.560', 'end': '2165.480', 'text': '.  It seems that way.'}, {'start': '2162.480', 'end': '2165.480', 'text': 'Well, well, I think it might be better not to do that.'}, {'start': '2167.680', 'end': '2170.680', 'text': "Yeah.  Yes, I see.  That's why there are insects."}, {'start': '2172.640', 'end': '2175.640', 'text': "Well, the radish ring is quite wide, isn't it?  That's why I couldn't"}, {'start': '2179.160', 'end': '2182.160', 'text': 'walk this far, so I see.  So, just as everyone said, you were able to feel the insect directly'}, {'start': '2183.880', 'end': '2189.480', 'text': '.  Go and check it out.'}, {'start': '2186.480', 'end': '2189.480', 'text': "That's right, well, when I was writing my report, the lady would pick up any bugs that she found.  So, I think that everyone who climbs up here thinks, oh, there are bugs."}, {'start': '2200.119', 'end': '2204.480', 'text': 'So, the ring'}, {'start': '2201.480', 'end': '2204.480', 'text': 'is 2km long, and the insects are on the connecting trees.'}, {'start': '2204.520', 'end': '2207.520', 'text': "yes.  I see.  I guess it's better not to go there too often.  This way."}, {'start': '2208.640', 'end': '2211.640', 'text': "Well, it seems like it would be scary, so if you go just out of curiosity, it might be a good thing to go and experience it, but that's why you shouldn't hold a festival in a place like this."}, {'start': '2219.240', 'end': '2222.240', 'text': "That's right."}, {'start': '2227.599', 'end': '2229.960', 'text': "Originally, a man named Matsui Ichiro, well, the mistake was that he forced himself to do it here, and he ran away because it was dangerous.  He's apparently on the run now."}, {'start': '2228.680', 'end': '2232.960', 'text': "Well, that's what it is."}, {'start': '2229.960', 'end': '2232.960', 'text': 'So before it even began, you said it was already a success.'}, {'start': '2233.880', 'end': '2237.880', 'text': 'Regarding the World Expo, in an interview with the Asahi Shimbun:'}, {'start': '2236.440', 'end': '2240.880', 'text': 'Yeah.'}, {'start': '2237.880', 'end': '2240.880', 'text': "Well, that's why Fujinobuyo is also dispersing the water here, so I wonder if it's safe."}, {'start': '2244.839', 'end': '2248.480', 'text': 'yes.'}, {'start': '2245.480', 'end': '2248.480', 'text': "So, there's this mist coming out next to where the Gundam is placed, and I was wondering if that mist water is okay."}, {'start': '2254.200', 'end': '2259.200', 'text': 'Ina-san also said that,'}, {'start': '2255.760', 'end': '2262.200', 'text': 'yes.  Yeah.'}, {'start': '2259.200', 'end': '2262.200', 'text': 'No, and this will be shown in the next video'}, {'start': '2263.119', 'end': '2266.119', 'text': '. Yes.  yes.  Then'}, {'start': '2268.680', 'end': '2271.960', 'text': 'this one has an Indian feel to it.  If you want a feel of'}, {'start': '2270.400', 'end': '2273.560', 'text': "India, head to India Pavilion.  It has an Indian feel.  yes.   It's"}, {'start': '2271.960', 'end': '2276.560', 'text': "not finished yet.   It's"}, {'start': '2273.560', 'end': '2276.560', 'text': 'not finished yet.  So, there was a fee for entry.'}, {'start': '2277.079', 'end': '2280.720', 'text': 'I see.'}, {'start': '2277.720', 'end': '2280.720', 'text': 'So, on the contrary, it was so funny that everyone came to take pictures.'}, {'start': '2280.910', 'end': '2285.079', 'text': '[Laughs] We ca'}, {'start': '2283.079', 'end': '2288.040', 'text': "n't open yet.   I ca"}, {'start': '2285.079', 'end': '2288.040', 'text': "n't open it yet."}, {'start': '2290.800', 'end': '2293.800', 'text': 'Hey, sorry,'}, {'start': '2294.640', 'end': '2307.989', 'text': "but according to the reports, the general contractor ran away because Nepal wouldn't pay, and well, the general contractor is pretty angry too, and Nepal isn't paying either, so there's no news.  That really started."}, {'start': '2297.560', 'end': '2307.989', 'text': '[Music]'}, {'start': '2311.640', 'end': '2316.599', 'text': 'Ah, well, a casino? This'}, {'start': '2313.599', 'end': '2316.599', 'text': 'is a casino construction site.  yes.   It is'}, {'start': '2318.040', 'end': '2323.720', 'text': "said that it arrived on April 24th.   that's"}, {'start': '2320.760', 'end': '2324.920', 'text': "right.  That's why I pick it up the day after I arrive."}, {'start': '2323.720', 'end': '2327.000', 'text': 'I see.  I see.'}, {'start': '2324.920', 'end': '2328.240', 'text': "Oh, I see.  I was wearing it the day I went.   that's"}, {'start': '2327.000', 'end': '2331.720', 'text': "right.  that's right.  that's right.  yes."}, {'start': '2328.240', 'end': '2331.720', 'text': 'Yeah.  yes.'}, {'start': '2335.440', 'end': '2341.040', 'text': "Ah, cement.  Really.   He's from"}, {'start': '2338.040', 'end': '2341.040', 'text': "Taro Aso.  It's also easy to understand things like hemp.  yes.   The"}, {'start': '2345.760', 'end': '2348.920', 'text': 'Daikon Ring'}, {'start': '2369.800', 'end': '2373.280', 'text': "will be the highest point at the Expo, so if lightning strikes, it will land here.  So when Fuji negotiated with officials from the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism, he calmly decided on the handrail.  However, when thunder is coming the wind is strong so everyone tries to hold on to them, but it's dangerous if they do, and if they don't hold on to them they're in danger of being blown away by the wind.  Even if you don't get caught, it's dangerous."}, {'start': '2372.119', 'end': '2377.599', 'text': 'Well, if you touch the ground like that, then'}, {'start': '2373.280', 'end': '2377.599', 'text': 'this is the second floor and there'}, {'start': '2377.640', 'end': '2380.319', 'text': "'s another floor above, the third floor, and the lightning will probably"}, {'start': '2378.640', 'end': '2382.480', 'text': "strike the third floor, so it's"}, {'start': '2380.319', 'end': '2385.240', 'text': "dangerous to touch this tissue on the third floor, which is why it's"}, {'start': '2382.480', 'end': '2387.230', 'text': 'called the WT series'}, {'start': '2385.240', 'end': '2392.320', 'text': ".  For some reason I can't get up here.  This one"}, {'start': '2387.230', 'end': '2392.320', 'text': '[Music]'}, {'start': '2392.520', 'end': '2397.000', 'text': "Oh, this one's really not high-pitched."}, {'start': '2393.920', 'end': '2401.599', 'text': "[Music] The reason we're"}, {'start': '2397.000', 'end': '2401.599', 'text': 'not building a third floor here is because you would be'}, {'start': '2403.880', 'end': '2405.079', 'text': 'able to see the Kaji construction site from the third floor, so it'}, {'start': '2405.079', 'end': '2408.079', 'text': "'s only on the second floor.  I understand this.  Hey, can you hear me? I can"}, {'start': '2413.760', 'end': '2416.240', 'text': 'hear you.  I can hear you.  yes.'}, {'start': '2414.920', 'end': '2419.240', 'text': 'yes.'}, {'start': '2416.240', 'end': '2419.240', 'text': 'First of all, if we take a moment to analyze it, it'}, {'start': '2419.520', 'end': '2424.000', 'text': "doesn't have a Nepalese feel to it."}, {'start': '2421.000', 'end': '2424.000', 'text': 'Well, actually, the bidding for this Expo construction started to go poorly.'}, {'start': '2427.880', 'end': '2431.880', 'text': 'Ah,'}, {'start': '2428.880', 'end': '2431.880', 'text': "that's why the general contractors were reluctant to step in.  The reason I said that is because an executive at that general contractor said it.  They said that if they took on this Expo construction project, they would get burned,"}, {'start': '2434.560', 'end': '2437.639', 'text': '[music]'}, {'start': '2442.480', 'end': '2447.119', 'text': 'this.  Yeah.'}, {'start': '2444.119', 'end': '2447.119', 'text': "What does it mean to get burned? If you're not careful, you might not even get paid.  So everyone who wanted to build that foreign pavilion ran away, so we couldn't hold a bid."}, {'start': '2457.240', 'end': '2460.240', 'text': 'Ah, we all knew the risks from the beginning.'}, {'start': '2460.480', 'end': '2463.480', 'text': "yes.  Everyone understood this, and that's why it became a reality in Nepal.  In Nepal they're already calling it Hara Wa.  This means that the construction company built by the Nepalese government is probably getting burned right"}, {'start': '2473.079', 'end': '2476.560', 'text': 'now.'}, {'start': '2473.560', 'end': '2476.560', 'text': "That's right.  You can't let that happen.  Well, that's it."}, {'start': '2477.599', 'end': '2482.720', 'text': "It's your stepfather, right?"}, {'start': '2479.720', 'end': '2482.720', 'text': "Yeah.  That's why, um, before, I was saying that there might be a World Expo project."}, {'start': '2485.000', 'end': '2488.000', 'text': 'Hmm.'}, {'start': '2488.400', 'end': '2491.400', 'text': "I see.  And that's already becoming apparent, but Indica hasn't been created yet.   that's"}, {'start': '2492.480', 'end': '2495.359', 'text': "right.  that's right."}, {'start': '2496.480', 'end': '2499.640', 'text': 'So, why did a country like Nepal reach out and establish Type'}, {'start': '2497.480', 'end': '2499.640', 'text': 'A?'}, {'start': '2502.640', 'end': '2506.800', 'text': 'Well, this is probably, and this is just my guess, because there were not many Type As,'}, {'start': '2506.800', 'end': '2509.960', 'text': 'that screen.  So we recruited Type A'}, {'start': '2517.079', 'end': '2518.240', 'text': 'volunteers, and we forced Nepal to join us, and they seemed willing to do it, but Nepal is one of the poorest countries, so I'}, {'start': '2518.240', 'end': '2521.240', 'text': 'think they probably ended up running out of funds.  Yeah.'}, {'start': '2522.720', 'end': '2527.480', 'text': 'I see.  I think Type B or Type C would have'}, {'start': '2525.520', 'end': '2529.960', 'text': "been better.  I'm glad I didn't push myself too hard."}, {'start': '2527.480', 'end': '2532.400', 'text': "That's right.  Yeah."}, {'start': '2529.960', 'end': '2535.400', 'text': 'So the church has a big responsibility.   The'}, {'start': '2532.400', 'end': '2535.400', 'text': 'church bears a lot of responsibility because at that time, everyone fled to Mexico.  Like Argentinians.  So I think that kind of feeling eventually made its way to Nepal.'}, {'start': '2544.880', 'end': '2549.520', 'text': 'Hmm.  Oh, I see.'}, {'start': '2547.880', 'end': '2550.520', 'text': 'yes.  There was'}, {'start': '2549.520', 'end': '2552.280', 'text': 'no one to do Type A anymore, so we just called it Type'}, {'start': '2550.520', 'end': '2553.839', 'text': "A and that's how it ended up like this."}, {'start': '2552.280', 'end': '2556.280', 'text': "So there's a possibility."}, {'start': '2553.839', 'end': '2557.280', 'text': 'Oh, so Type A is the flower of the Expo.'}, {'start': '2556.280', 'end': '2560.280', 'text': "That's right."}, {'start': '2557.280', 'end': '2560.280', 'text': "Yeah.  But then everyone else started running away, so in the end, he couldn't get there in time and he had to rush in, and he was just at a loss as to what to do, which was really unfortunate.  Well, for Nepal, for the construction site, for the construction company, and for Japan."}, {'start': '2575.760', 'end': '2580.599', 'text': 'Coordination'}, {'start': '2577.599', 'end': '2580.599', 'text': 'I think there was a lack of coordination ability on the part of the people who stepped in and made adjustments.'}, {'start': '2583.119', 'end': '2586.359', 'text': 'Hmm.'}, {'start': '2584.360', 'end': '2589.359', 'text': '[Music]'}, {'start': '2586.359', 'end': '2589.359', 'text': 'No, but, and this assortment, this'}, {'start': '2592.280', 'end': '2595.280', 'text': "is a great photo.  It's a production video.  Because it's quite hard to see.  On the other side."}, {'start': '2597.559', 'end': '2599.640', 'text': 'yes.'}, {'start': '2615.880', 'end': '2617.040', 'text': "So, as I said earlier, it's hidden so that if you can see that part, you can't go up there and it's harmful, and basically we try not to let anyone see it, but the fact that it's being reinforced for the Expo is really quite something, and it"}, {'start': '2617.040', 'end': '2620.040', 'text': 'can be seen from the elevator waiting area on the second floor of the circular elevator.'}, {'start': '2620.280', 'end': '2626.000', 'text': 'Ah, yes yes.  I see.'}, {'start': '2623.000', 'end': '2626.000', 'text': "Well, it's so that you can't go up there and you can't see it from above, but you can see it from between there."}, {'start': '2628.680', 'end': '2633.880', 'text': 'yes.  Well, the circle is pretty empty.'}, {'start': '2630.880', 'end': '2633.880', 'text': "That's why you can see it from sparsely populated places."}, {'start': '2634.559', 'end': '2640.359', 'text': "That's right.  Because it won't even catch fire"}, {'start': '2637.359', 'end': '2640.359', 'text': ".  Because it's circular, it can be seen through sparse areas.  oh yeah.  And when it rains it hits you sideways.  It's raining"}, {'start': '2643.640', 'end': '2646.440', 'text': '.  It was difficult at first.  April'}, {'start': '2645.200', 'end': '2649.440', 'text': '13th.  I'}, {'start': '2646.440', 'end': '2649.440', 'text': "couldn't walk anymore.  Many people were being blown away and their umbrellas were broken"}, {'start': '2651.079', 'end': '2654.200', 'text': '.  Yeah.'}, {'start': '2657.720', 'end': '2658.880', 'text': 'So, in the end, when it comes to building this World Expo and this casino, the thing that will make'}, {'start': '2658.880', 'end': '2661.880', 'text': 'the most profit is ready mixed concrete.'}, {'start': '2662.200', 'end': '2665.200', 'text': "It's cement.  Because everyone has to get this cent conc."}, {'start': '2666.760', 'end': '2670.119', 'text': "That's right.  Yeah."}, {'start': '2675.880', 'end': '2680.040', 'text': 'Now, speaking of which, the Osaka Ready-Mixed Concrete Regional School teamed up with the Osaka Restoration Party to'}, {'start': '2676.880', 'end': '2680.040', 'text': 'donate 200 million yen to the Healthcare Pavilion, and the'}, {'start': '2681.440', 'end': '2683.559', 'text': 'Hanshin-Orix Parade also'}, {'start': '2683.559', 'end': '2688.359', 'text': 'donated 20, 20, or 40 million yen.'}, {'start': '2685.359', 'end': '2688.359', 'text': 'So the cement company, Macon, then Ginecon, and'}, {'start': '2689.000', 'end': '2692.000', 'text': 'then that soil and sand that fills the plum land.'}, {'start': '2692.480', 'end': '2695.480', 'text': 'Places like that made a lot of money.  I think they might be making a profit.'}, {'start': '2697.240', 'end': '2703.000', 'text': 'Hmm.  Yeah.'}, {'start': '2700.000', 'end': '2703.000', 'text': "No, so this is exactly what I'm saying - the groans of the profit-makers, you can clearly see it."}, {'start': '2706.079', 'end': '2709.359', 'text': "Yes, that's right.  hey."}, {'start': '2708.200', 'end': '2712.359', 'text': 'Yeah.'}, {'start': '2709.359', 'end': '2712.359', 'text': "Yeah.  Yeah.  No, but ah, this part, they say it won't be shown, but you can see it from here.  Oh, I see."}, {'start': '2718.400', 'end': '2723.400', 'text': "Although the top isn't shown."}, {'start': '2720.400', 'end': '2723.400', 'text': 'yes.'}, {'start': '2724.720', 'end': '2730.160', 'text': "It can be seen from between the all the gold coins.  that's right.  Visible from between."}, {'start': '2727.160', 'end': '2730.160', 'text': 'yes.  So, you know, the'}, {'start': '2730.480', 'end': '2733.480', 'text': 'Man Association is like, hiding their heads but not their tails'}, {'start': '2733.839', 'end': '2736.280', 'text': ".  Exactly. That's"}, {'start': '2735.599', 'end': '2739.280', 'text': 'right.'}, {'start': '2736.280', 'end': '2739.280', 'text': 'That word is exactly right.'}, {'start': '2740.200', 'end': '2743.880', 'text': "Because that's what happened with those fatalities too."}, {'start': '2743.040', 'end': '2746.880', 'text': 'Yeah.'}, {'start': '2743.880', 'end': '2746.880', 'text': 'And you hid the toilet explosion at first, did'}, {'start': '2747.240', 'end': '2751.800', 'text': "n't you?  Yeah."}, {'start': '2748.800', 'end': '2751.800', 'text': 'Well, the announcement was made the next day, but at first they just said Inca.'}, {'start': '2753.800', 'end': '2758.400', 'text': 'Yes, yes, yes.  So'}, {'start': '2755.599', 'end': '2760.800', 'text': 'in May, the photo came out.  Finally.'}, {'start': '2758.400', 'end': '2763.800', 'text': "yes.  that's right.  that's right.  that's right.  that's right."}, {'start': '2760.800', 'end': '2763.800', 'text': "So, he didn't want to take it down even when he was free to do interviews with people like Aka or Shiro Sahenshi, but he got told off for something so he's reluctantly doing it now, isn't he?"}, {'start': '2770.920', 'end': '2775.280', 'text': "That's right.   It"}, {'start': '2772.280', 'end': '2775.280', 'text': "'s an association that hides its head but gives instructions without hiding anything.  yes."}, {'start': '2775.480', 'end': '2778.480', 'text': "Yes, that's right.  So, when I went there the day before, I"}, {'start': '2782.079', 'end': '2784.200', 'text': 'saw the location of the methane gas like this'}, {'start': '2783.839', 'end': '2787.200', 'text': '.'}, {'start': '2784.200', 'end': '2787.200', 'text': "So that's what you were taking.  The day before, the whole day before.  yes."}, {'start': '2787.839', 'end': '2792.280', 'text': 'So, without me knowing anything about it.  So,'}, {'start': '2790.680', 'end': '2795.880', 'text': 'oh, right.  So'}, {'start': '2792.280', 'end': '2797.839', 'text': 'actually, yeah.  The security guard'}, {'start': '2795.880', 'end': '2798.599', 'text': 'was standing next to here on April 13th.'}, {'start': '2797.839', 'end': '2801.599', 'text': 'yes.  yes.'}, {'start': '2798.599', 'end': '2801.599', 'text': "So, it was raining here and here, but when I asked if this was the meta location, they said yes.  That's right, he told me that."}, {'start': '2803.170', 'end': '2808.040', 'text': '[Laughs]'}, {'start': '2806.640', 'end': '2811.040', 'text': 'But then I went'}, {'start': '2808.040', 'end': '2813.240', 'text': 'back 11 days later and here it is.'}, {'start': '2811.040', 'end': '2816.240', 'text': 'yes.'}, {'start': '2813.240', 'end': '2816.240', 'text': "There's a woman standing in the middle here."}, {'start': '2818.200', 'end': '2821.920', 'text': 'yes.  yes.   There'}, {'start': '2821.920', 'end': '2825.920', 'text': 'are two smaller people further back and two on the right,'}, {'start': '2823.800', 'end': '2827.559', 'text': 'they are security guards.'}, {'start': '2825.920', 'end': '2830.559', 'text': 'Ahh, hah, hah, hah, hah.'}, {'start': '2827.559', 'end': '2830.559', 'text': "They're security guards, they're around here."}, {'start': '2831.079', 'end': '2835.280', 'text': 'Yeah.  Yeah.'}, {'start': '2832.280', 'end': '2835.280', 'text': "So, it's like he's purposely staying that far away"}, {'start': '2835.520', 'end': '2839.160', 'text': '. Haa.'}, {'start': '2836.160', 'end': '2839.160', 'text': 'So, while I was taking pictures, he came and told me to stop.'}, {'start': '2840.400', 'end': '2843.480', 'text': 'ah.'}, {'start': '2841.079', 'end': '2843.720', 'text': 'So, we continued to exchange messages after that and then'}, {'start': '2843.480', 'end': '2846.720', 'text': '...   When I'}, {'start': '2843.720', 'end': '2846.720', 'text': "asked him if he was intentionally staying far away, he said something along the lines of ``Yes, I guess.''"}, {'start': '2849.599', 'end': '2854.599', 'text': 'Oh, I see.  Yeah.'}, {'start': '2851.599', 'end': '2854.599', 'text': "That's why I deliberately didn't want to be around so that they wouldn't realize that this was a dangerous place."}, {'start': '2857.319', 'end': '2860.319', 'text': 'So, watching from afar and paying attention is, in a way, the same as keeping an eye on them in secret, in my opinion.'}, {'start': '2863.240', 'end': '2867.359', 'text': 'yes.  yes.  yes.  yes.   So'}, {'start': '2864.359', 'end': '2867.359', 'text': ", that's what I was told after the shoot."}, {'start': '2867.880', 'end': '2870.880', 'text': 'First of all, we were told that photography was prohibited.'}, {'start': '2871.040', 'end': '2874.680', 'text': 'yes.  yes.  yes.  If you'}, {'start': '2871.680', 'end': '2874.680', 'text': "ask why, you'll ask the person yourself."}, {'start': '2874.839', 'end': '2878.520', 'text': 'Yeah.  Yeah.'}, {'start': '2875.520', 'end': '2878.520', 'text': 'Then they started reporting on the intercom that the people were behaving rebelliously, and to headquarters.'}, {'start': '2879.760', 'end': '2885.720', 'text': "[Laughter] It's"}, {'start': '2883.160', 'end': '2887.040', 'text': "become a dictatorial Diet, and if you're not careful you could get arrested."}, {'start': '2885.720', 'end': '2890.040', 'text': 'Yes, yes, yes.'}, {'start': '2887.040', 'end': '2890.040', 'text': 'So, if you could just take a look at that exchange and the evidence, yes,'}, {'start': '2891.000', 'end': '2894.599', 'text': 'yes, yes.'}, {'start': '2892.720', 'end': '2895.880', 'text': 'Is it not allowed to take pictures?'}, {'start': '2894.599', 'end': '2898.720', 'text': 'Here'}, {'start': '2895.880', 'end': '2905.359', 'text': ", oh my, I said it was a rebellious title, but why? It's on the left side, next to the barrier-free toilet."}, {'start': '2898.720', 'end': '2906.760', 'text': '[MUSIC]'}, {'start': '2905.359', 'end': '2908.760', 'text': 'Sorry.  yes.   I'}, {'start': '2906.760', 'end': '2911.760', 'text': 'said it was a rebellious attitude, but why?'}, {'start': '2908.760', 'end': '2911.760', 'text': 'Well, you said "Stop it," so'}, {'start': '2912.400', 'end': '2915.400', 'text': "shouldn't I ask you why?"}, {'start': '2916.920', 'end': '2920.559', 'text': 'Yes.  I just wanted to let them know that filming is prohibited over there.'}, {'start': '2918.000', 'end': '2923.559', 'text': 'Ah, I understand.  got it.  Why is it prohibited?'}, {'start': '2920.559', 'end': '2926.559', 'text': 'This is that place, so'}, {'start': '2923.559', 'end': '2926.559', 'text': "why isn't it widely known that this is where the meta came from?"}, {'start': '2927.559', 'end': '2930.559', 'text': "Well, from the perspective of Inspector Ko, I have to ask a few questions, and I've been told not to say anything about it."}, {'start': '2934.920', 'end': '2937.920', 'text': "Well, um, that's how it is, but, um, this area is quite, um, a very"}, {'start': '2941.599', 'end': '2944.119', 'text': 'target area for that kind of thing,'}, {'start': '2942.520', 'end': '2944.960', 'text': 'so is it considered to be a place for filming?'}, {'start': '2944.119', 'end': '2947.319', 'text': 'Ah, I understand.'}, {'start': '2944.960', 'end': '2948.760', 'text': 'yes.  This does not mean that we are taking a break from filming for a while.'}, {'start': '2947.319', 'end': '2950.799', 'text': 'yes.'}, {'start': '2948.760', 'end': '2953.960', 'text': 'Yes, yes, yes, I understand your company.'}, {'start': '2950.799', 'end': '2953.960', 'text': "yes.  Isn't that too much trouble? That's it."}, {'start': '2954.599', 'end': '2959.319', 'text': "Yes.  There's a barrier on the left and a flute on the right."}, {'start': '2956.010', 'end': '2962.079', 'text': '[Music]'}, {'start': '2959.319', 'end': '2965.079', 'text': "But I wasn't there when I was there."}, {'start': '2962.079', 'end': '2965.079', 'text': 'I see.  So I said various things like I did a live performance with Fujinaga-san on that day and they told me not to take photos, so'}, {'start': '2971.599', 'end': '2974.599', 'text': "maybe they've stopped banning photography.   I"}, {'start': '2976.160', 'end': '2979.160', 'text': "think that's true.  Because there's no reason to ban photography."}, {'start': '2981.240', 'end': '2985.319', 'text': "Isn't that the case?  I"}, {'start': '2982.319', 'end': '2985.319', 'text': "have to take the photo first.  Isn't it a place that needs to be covered?"}, {'start': '2986.000', 'end': '2989.000', 'text': 'So right now, the problem is that filming is prohibited in the areas where the nurses are'}, {'start': '2991.440', 'end': '2995.119', 'text': ".  That's what you said, sister.  Smartphones too"}, {'start': '2994.400', 'end': '2998.119', 'text': '.'}, {'start': '2995.119', 'end': '2998.119', 'text': 'Even in this case, there is no mention of the filming costs or anything else.  It just says "No touching allowed."  But did you pay for the filming and write it?Yes, you did.'}, {'start': '3003.200', 'end': '3006.520', 'text': 'Ah, it'}, {'start': '3003.520', 'end': '3006.520', 'text': "says the camera is no good, so basically, um, the smartphone is no good either, but it's"}, {'start': '3010.599', 'end': '3014.520', 'text': 'beautiful.  Yeah.'}, {'start': '3011.520', 'end': '3014.520', 'text': 'Yeah.  So I went in with a bang, and I talked to the nurse and she asked, um, um, what do you do if an ambulance arrives? I heard the procedure, and'}, {'start': '3018.890', 'end': '3021.969', 'text': '[music]'}, {'start': '3023.520', 'end': '3026.520', 'text': "I thought that if we did that, we really wouldn't make it in time, and then the next day someone died, and that's how it went."}, {'start': '3032.240', 'end': '3036.440', 'text': 'yes.  yes.'}, {'start': '3033.440', 'end': '3036.440', 'text': 'In that sense, the situation we feared has actually occurred. In fact, it has'}, {'start': '3037.319', 'end': '3041.319', 'text': 'already happened.  I found that out the next day.'}, {'start': '3040.280', 'end': '3042.599', 'text': 'yes.  yes.  yes.  It'}, {'start': '3041.319', 'end': '3043.520', 'text': 'was the night of the 25th.  3 The'}, {'start': '3042.599', 'end': '3047.599', 'text': 'branch is written first.   I'}, {'start': '3043.520', 'end': '3050.599', 'text': 'agree.  yes.  Yeah.  Yeah.'}, {'start': '3047.599', 'end': '3050.599', 'text': "No, so, well, I guess it's just that the bumpers are strengthened, but that's not the only thing that matters."}, {'start': '3058.280', 'end': '3062.599', 'text': "Well, that's just irresponsible.   I think it's because"}, {'start': '3059.599', 'end': '3062.599', 'text': "once it's over they just run away, so there's a deep-rooted culture of not taking responsibility, and even if you try to disclose information, it can't be made public, so in the end, if the tops are like that, it spreads down the line to the bottom as well,"}, {'start': '3076.839', 'end': '3080.280', 'text': "yeah.  that's why"}]