Runaway Teacher Turned Adventure Girl (with Amy Friedl)
Liberation is Lit
[{'start': '7.910', 'end': '8.480', 'text': "Hey y'all."}, {'start': '8.480', 'end': '12.270', 'text': 'Welcome to the Liberation is Lit\nPodcast, where this power storytelling'}, {'start': '12.270', 'end': '13.950', 'text': 'meets the force of social change.'}, {'start': '13.950', 'end': '19.950', 'text': 'My name is Tayler and this podcast we\nbelieve in the profound impact of stories.'}, {'start': '20.220', 'end': '25.229', 'text': "And I'm excited to be here today\nwith Author Children's book"}, {'start': '25.235', 'end': '31.020', 'text': "author Amy Friedl and we're\ngonna talk about kids books, and."}, {'start': '31.880', 'end': '35.000', 'text': 'And getting back and connected to nature.'}, {'start': '35.000', 'end': '38.360', 'text': "So I'm excited for this conversation."}, {'start': '38.360', 'end': '39.440', 'text': 'Hey Amy, how are you doing'}, {'start': '39.735', 'end': '40.394', 'text': 'Good morning.'}, {'start': '40.394', 'end': '40.754', 'text': "I'm good."}, {'start': '40.754', 'end': '41.414', 'text': 'How are you?'}, {'start': '41.810', 'end': '42.440', 'text': 'Good.'}, {'start': '42.885', 'end': '43.245', 'text': 'Good.'}, {'start': '43.550', 'end': '47.269', 'text': 'to kick us off, can you tell us\na little bit about yourself as a'}, {'start': '47.269', 'end': '49.399', 'text': "writer and why Children's Books."}, {'start': '49.709', 'end': '50.099', 'text': 'Sure.'}, {'start': '50.379', 'end': '56.170', 'text': 'So I, I proclaim myself runaway\nteacher turned adventure girl.'}, {'start': '57.500', 'end': '62.090', 'text': 'I am like, there are some women out there\ndoing extreme sports and that is amazing.'}, {'start': '62.390', 'end': '63.350', 'text': 'That is not me.'}, {'start': '63.410', 'end': '66.500', 'text': "I'm just been on a mission to\nfigure out like what I'm capable"}, {'start': '66.500', 'end': '68.210', 'text': 'of in the outdoors, in my.'}, {'start': '68.715', 'end': '72.545', 'text': 'Almost 50 years,  just a few\nyears ago took to being outside'}, {'start': '72.545', 'end': '75.905', 'text': 'and found the power and the, the\nconnection that I had out in nature.'}, {'start': '75.905', 'end': '77.795', 'text': "And so now I'm like, well,\nwhat else can I do out here?"}, {'start': '79.850', 'end': '84.620', 'text': "I tend to find a story or some lesson\nabout life wherever I go, whether I'm"}, {'start': '84.620', 'end': '88.340', 'text': 'like on the trail hiking and I notice\na couple trees leaning together.'}, {'start': '88.340', 'end': '89.000', 'text': "I'm like, huh."}, {'start': '89.030', 'end': '91.760', 'text': "There's like a metaphor there about how\nwe're supposed to live and how women"}, {'start': '91.760', 'end': '93.050', 'text': 'are supposed to encourage each other.'}, {'start': '93.050', 'end': '93.830', 'text': "There's something there."}, {'start': '94.330', 'end': '97.560', 'text': "Or if it's out,  I've taken to\nnational Parks recently, which is"}, {'start': '97.560', 'end': '102.080', 'text': 'what my book series is set in, and,\nfinding some, some lesson about life.'}, {'start': '102.080', 'end': '104.630', 'text': 'Like I wish there was some list of like.'}, {'start': '104.945', 'end': '108.635', 'text': 'Every, every lesson, like the top\n100 lessons, every little girl'}, {'start': '108.635', 'end': '110.015', 'text': 'should learn before she adults.'}, {'start': '110.015', 'end': '112.085', 'text': "But that doesn't exist."}, {'start': '112.085', 'end': '113.195', 'text': 'And honestly, it was,'}, {'start': '117.095', 'end': '119.375', 'text': "I'd like to think I'm\nwriting part of it anyway."}, {'start': '121.695', 'end': '122.385', 'text': 'Yes.'}, {'start': '122.475', 'end': '129.855', 'text': "And as someone who, I didn't grow up\noutside, I was very in the house and, it"}, {'start': '129.855', 'end': '134.295', 'text': 'was like almost outside was unsafe for'}, {'start': '134.510', 'end': '135.230', 'text': 'Mm-hmm.'}, {'start': '135.315', 'end': '139.155', 'text': "had, like, I spent a lot of time\nat my grandma's house down in the"}, {'start': '139.155', 'end': '143.215', 'text': 'country and one of her next door\nneighbors, had fighting dogs.'}, {'start': '143.215', 'end': '143.635', 'text': 'So'}, {'start': '143.850', 'end': '144.630', 'text': 'Oh my gosh.'}, {'start': '144.745', 'end': '147.025', 'text': 'always like, oh,  afraid that.'}, {'start': '148.050', 'end': '151.650', 'text': 'Me or my sister or my cousins\nwould be outside playing and'}, {'start': '151.650', 'end': '153.510', 'text': 'then one of them would get out.'}, {'start': '153.510', 'end': '158.220', 'text': 'And so outside was associated\nwith a lot of fear for us.'}, {'start': '158.625', 'end': '159.405', 'text': 'Absolutely.'}, {'start': '159.450', 'end': '163.620', 'text': "an adult, I'm like trying\nto get back out there."}, {'start': '163.670', 'end': '166.820', 'text': 'I bought a hammock and I read outside.'}, {'start': '166.820', 'end': '168.260', 'text': 'I go for walks.'}, {'start': '168.260', 'end': '171.080', 'text': "So I'm trying to heal that\nrelationship with nature."}, {'start': '171.480', 'end': '176.730', 'text': 'And so I love the idea of your\nbook series, and I wanted to ask,'}, {'start': '177.030', 'end': '182.940', 'text': 'why do you believe in connecting\nchildren to nature, specifically'}, {'start': '182.940', 'end': '184.260', 'text': 'for your books, but just people'}, {'start': '184.330', 'end': '184.331', 'text': 'Mm-hmm.'}, {'start': '184.500', 'end': '185.070', 'text': 'nature?'}, {'start': '185.375', 'end': '185.705', 'text': 'Yeah.'}, {'start': '185.705', 'end': '189.865', 'text': 'I love the fact that you, by the way,\nthat like your intentional, like I hammock'}, {'start': '190.055', 'end': '193.070', 'text': "and I'm gonna choose to not be afraid."}, {'start': '193.070', 'end': '194.150', 'text': 'Like I love that.'}, {'start': '194.150', 'end': '194.750', 'text': 'I love that.'}, {'start': '195.030', 'end': '197.220', 'text': 'I have a little bin in\nmy, in the back of my car.'}, {'start': '197.220', 'end': '198.090', 'text': "It's got two sides."}, {'start': '198.090', 'end': '199.980', 'text': 'One is like emergency stuff and water.'}, {'start': '199.980', 'end': '200.910', 'text': 'And Jackson.'}, {'start': '200.940', 'end': '205.650', 'text': "The other is hammock chairs, hiking\npole pillow, blanket, because I don't"}, {'start': '205.650', 'end': '209.160', 'text': "know where, you know, I'm gonna wanna\njust pull over, take a roadside nap."}, {'start': '210.000', 'end': '213.460', 'text': 'So if I can back up a little\nbit,  the reason I feel.'}, {'start': '213.865', 'end': '216.355', 'text': 'So strongly about connecting\nkids and people in general.'}, {'start': '216.385', 'end': '220.765', 'text': 'And I think especially girls, honestly,\nlike, I think a lot of that fear, right?'}, {'start': '220.765', 'end': '224.125', 'text': 'Fear has been bred into us for\nhow many generations and no, stay'}, {'start': '224.125', 'end': '227.225', 'text': 'back, stay back, stay out of the\nlimelight, or out of the way.'}, {'start': '227.645', 'end': '234.215', 'text': '2019 and 20 like pre covid was\nactually my lowest point mentally'}, {'start': '234.335', 'end': '235.270', 'text': 'in my mental health journey.'}, {'start': '236.075', 'end': '239.345', 'text': "And it wasn't until like my\noldest daughter at the time, she"}, {'start': '239.345', 'end': '243.785', 'text': 'was, she was shifting a college\nmajor, an intended major from.'}, {'start': '244.760', 'end': '247.040', 'text': 'Musical theater to something outside.'}, {'start': '247.530', 'end': '250.590', 'text': "She hadn't quite figured out and so\nshe was actually really instrumental"}, {'start': '250.590', 'end': '252.990', 'text': 'in literally dragging me out of bed.'}, {'start': '253.870', 'end': '256.850', 'text': 'This was actually during Covid,\nbecause my teaching career had kind'}, {'start': '256.850', 'end': '261.260', 'text': 'of had shifted obviously, and had\na little bit more time to deal with'}, {'start': '261.290', 'end': '264.410', 'text': 'the stuff that I was dealing with\npersonally and not just my career wise.'}, {'start': '264.800', 'end': '267.110', 'text': 'She was really good at literally\ndragging me out of bed.'}, {'start': '267.110', 'end': '270.170', 'text': "And I remember one day she said, look,\nwe need to, let's just, let's go drive,"}, {'start': '270.170', 'end': '271.580', 'text': "let's get to the Mississippi River."}, {'start': '271.940', 'end': '275.540', 'text': "I'm like, I'm, I'm not driving,\ngetting in a car for three hours."}, {'start': '275.570', 'end': '276.260', 'text': "That's not it."}, {'start': '276.890', 'end': '277.790', 'text': "I'm up in Wisconsin."}, {'start': '277.790', 'end': '281.490', 'text': "So like we're surrounded by big, beautiful\nthings and she's like, okay, fine."}, {'start': '281.490', 'end': '282.630', 'text': "Then we're going to Lake Michigan."}, {'start': '282.630', 'end': '285.690', 'text': 'Because I remember she said, you need\nto be by something bigger than you are.'}, {'start': '286.650', 'end': '287.280', 'text': 'And.'}, {'start': '288.075', 'end': '289.035', 'text': 'Eventually I got out.'}, {'start': '289.065', 'end': '292.245', 'text': 'We went there and there was something,\nsomething clicked when we were up.'}, {'start': '292.245', 'end': '295.065', 'text': "We're on this bluff, which is now my\nfavorite place in Wisconsin because it"}, {'start': '295.065', 'end': '296.835', 'text': 'holds a piece of my heart and my brain.'}, {'start': '297.315', 'end': '301.195', 'text': "We're up on this bluff and overlooking\nthe mis, the, no, lake Michigan, which"}, {'start': '301.734', 'end': '304.765', 'text': "if you've not been to the Great Lakes, it\nfeels like you're staring at the ocean."}, {'start': '305.500', 'end': '308.980', 'text': "Because it is so huge and we're up\noverlooking and there's just the awe"}, {'start': '308.980', 'end': '310.750', 'text': 'and the massive and the beauty of it.'}, {'start': '310.750', 'end': '315.010', 'text': 'And then we go down this trail,\nwhich I, I coined like a cedar'}, {'start': '315.010', 'end': '316.600', 'text': 'rainforest almost feels like.'}, {'start': '316.600', 'end': '320.020', 'text': "And you're going down these steps through\nthe woods and then out into the beach"}, {'start': '320.020', 'end': '321.790', 'text': "and you're at your feet in the water."}, {'start': '322.380', 'end': '325.560', 'text': 'There was just something when\nI was there that clicked and'}, {'start': '325.560', 'end': '327.030', 'text': 'I felt connected to something.'}, {'start': '327.030', 'end': '328.800', 'text': 'I felt a part of something.'}, {'start': '328.920', 'end': '333.150', 'text': "I felt like I have purpose, I have\nimportance, I have a value I'm seen"}, {'start': '333.150', 'end': '335.400', 'text': 'here where I may not be seen in my job.'}, {'start': '335.820', 'end': '337.530', 'text': 'This has a connection.'}, {'start': '337.530', 'end': '341.760', 'text': 'This makes me feel powerful and visible\nand, and I want that for everybody.'}, {'start': '342.059', 'end': '345.239', 'text': 'Fast forward a year or so, my,\nthe same daughter went and did,'}, {'start': '345.239', 'end': '346.650', 'text': 'seasonal work around the country.'}, {'start': '346.650', 'end': '350.429', 'text': 'And so she spent some time in the\nmountains, in the desert and watching'}, {'start': '350.429', 'end': '354.599', 'text': 'her grow strong and figure out who\nshe was and grow more confident'}, {'start': '354.599', 'end': '357.210', 'text': 'and just empowered me as her mom.'}, {'start': '357.210', 'end': '362.429', 'text': 'Like, you know, I think most moms want,\nyou know, what we want for our kids,'}, {'start': '362.429', 'end': '363.719', 'text': "what we couldn't have for ourselves."}, {'start': '363.719', 'end': '363.869', 'text': 'Right.'}, {'start': '364.919', 'end': '366.719', 'text': 'And watching her have\nthat and think, okay.'}, {'start': '367.814', 'end': '370.635', 'text': 'I can, I can have that too, and\nkind of did a reversal like,'}, {'start': '370.635', 'end': '371.684', 'text': 'yeah, she has this, that I.'}, {'start': '376.155', 'end': '378.854', 'text': 'I remember sitting, I went to visit\nher when she was working in Glacier'}, {'start': '378.854', 'end': '382.905', 'text': 'National Park and sitting on a roadside\nwall overlooking the mountains and'}, {'start': '382.905', 'end': '384.524', 'text': 'just the vastness of this beauty.'}, {'start': '384.524', 'end': '388.155', 'text': "And I'm like, oh my gosh, my eyeballs\nare so lucky to see this right now."}, {'start': '388.694', 'end': '392.324', 'text': 'I want every little girl to see this and\nto know that she can do this and she can'}, {'start': '392.324', 'end': '396.914', 'text': 'go do brave, intimidating things and she\ncan get out of her way and go do this.'}, {'start': '396.914', 'end': '400.744', 'text': "And that's where strong Girls\nTravel was born, was sitting on"}, {'start': '400.744', 'end': '402.304', 'text': 'that, on that roadside mountain.'}, {'start': '402.364', 'end': '406.254', 'text': 'And, so now Strong Girls travel is\nall about empowering girls and girl'}, {'start': '406.254', 'end': '412.254', 'text': 'families and young girls at heart\nto get out of their way and out'}, {'start': '412.254', 'end': '415.734', 'text': 'of their heads and go define their\nadventure and figure out what it is.'}, {'start': '416.154', 'end': '418.834', 'text': "Chances are it's gonna be\noutdoors, because I just feel"}, {'start': '418.834', 'end': '422.944', 'text': "like there's that connection\nthere for growth and for change."}, {'start': '422.944', 'end': '425.864', 'text': "And, since then I've named\nmy Jeep Willow because."}, {'start': '426.254', 'end': '429.374', 'text': 'Willow branches fall off and they\njust start growing wherever they land.'}, {'start': '429.524', 'end': '430.874', 'text': "They're like, oh, we're growing here now."}, {'start': '430.994', 'end': '432.044', 'text': 'Cool, great.'}, {'start': '432.134', 'end': '432.944', 'text': 'I can do this.'}, {'start': '433.274', 'end': '436.244', 'text': "And I've named my popup camper,\nwhich I was never a camper."}, {'start': '436.244', 'end': '437.414', 'text': 'And now I have a popup.'}, {'start': '437.684', 'end': '442.184', 'text': "I've named her Juniper because junipers\ngrow in unlikely places, like they"}, {'start': '442.184', 'end': '443.504', 'text': 'thrive in the middle of a rock.'}, {'start': '443.684', 'end': '444.514', 'text': 'And yeah.'}, {'start': '447.414', 'end': '452.984', 'text': 'I love  how you said earlier, connecting\nnature, what you experience in nature, and'}, {'start': '452.984', 'end': '456.765', 'text': 'even what your daughter said about just\nbeing a part of something bigger than you.'}, {'start': '457.145', 'end': '457.565', 'text': 'Mm-hmm.'}, {'start': '457.694', 'end': '463.484', 'text': 'love kind of like the finding the\nmessage because none of this is new and'}, {'start': '463.875', 'end': '464.224', 'text': 'Right.'}, {'start': '465.104', 'end': '470.145', 'text': 'we can learn so much from just\neverything that grows organically.'}, {'start': '472.124', 'end': '478.155', 'text': 'I love that you created a series\nspecifically for girls and girl'}, {'start': '478.169', 'end': '484.530', 'text': 'families to kind of, you said, have\nthose 101 things that girls should'}, {'start': '484.530', 'end': '486.519', 'text': 'know, but through the lens of nature.'}, {'start': '486.954', 'end': '487.254', 'text': 'Yeah.'}, {'start': '487.389', 'end': '491.109', 'text': 'how do you believe stories and\nstorytelling and nature connect'}, {'start': '491.109', 'end': '492.639', 'text': 'to creating better communities?'}, {'start': '493.554', 'end': '495.174', 'text': 'I think that nature is like.'}, {'start': '496.824', 'end': '499.524', 'text': 'The great bonding medium\nthat we have in our world.'}, {'start': '499.524', 'end': '503.784', 'text': 'You know, I think, and I think we\ntry and women do this a lot, right?'}, {'start': '503.784', 'end': '504.234', 'text': 'And May.'}, {'start': '504.384', 'end': '504.654', 'text': 'Yes.'}, {'start': '504.654', 'end': '507.714', 'text': 'The story, the series, I wanna say this\nto the series is strong Girls Travel.'}, {'start': '507.714', 'end': '512.194', 'text': 'But,  one of my closest friends, he has a\nson and he is bent on getting every single'}, {'start': '512.194', 'end': '513.724', 'text': "book that I'm, that I'm putting out."}, {'start': '513.724', 'end': '515.884', 'text': "And he's like, I want my son\nto know girls are strong too."}, {'start': '516.124', 'end': '519.934', 'text': "Like, and I'll run into a lot of\npeople like, oh, I only have grandsons."}, {'start': '519.934', 'end': '521.644', 'text': "I'm like, that's okay."}, {'start': '522.409', 'end': '526.289', 'text': "They, they can still learn from the story\nand and there's not a little girl in the"}, {'start': '526.289', 'end': '528.359', 'text': 'pictures, so like they can still relate.'}, {'start': '528.359', 'end': '531.689', 'text': 'And I do think that nature\nis that great bonding medium.'}, {'start': '531.739', 'end': '534.679', 'text': 'Regardless of who we are, what\nwe look like, where we came from,'}, {'start': '535.219', 'end': '537.919', 'text': 'we are all looking for the same.'}, {'start': '537.949', 'end': '539.779', 'text': "Maybe we're not looking for\nthe same thing, but we find"}, {'start': '539.779', 'end': '541.039', 'text': 'ourselves in the same place.'}, {'start': '541.089', 'end': '545.229', 'text': 'I do remember being, I was\nhiking on my mission to learn'}, {'start': '545.229', 'end': '546.699', 'text': 'something at every national park.'}, {'start': '547.179', 'end': '551.509', 'text': 'Two, a little bit ago I was at Isle\nRoyal, which is, a national park on an'}, {'start': '551.509', 'end': '553.639', 'text': 'island in the middle of Lake Superior.'}, {'start': '553.639', 'end': '558.889', 'text': 'Lake Superior is an inland sea, and so\nit is volatile and it is this 49 mile'}, {'start': '558.889', 'end': '563.989', 'text': 'out, mile long island that has a visitor\ncenter at one side, a ranger center at'}, {'start': '563.989', 'end': '565.369', 'text': 'the other, and the rest is wilderness.'}, {'start': '566.004', 'end': '570.954', 'text': "And it's the only one of the only places\naround that wolves and moose exist."}, {'start': '570.954', 'end': '573.204', 'text': 'They coexist without the\npresence of bears around.'}, {'start': '573.864', 'end': '576.984', 'text': "And so they've got this entire\nsymbiotic relationship going on."}, {'start': '576.984', 'end': '581.004', 'text': 'And years ago they got rid of the\nwolves, or the wolves died off.'}, {'start': '581.004', 'end': '584.124', 'text': "I don't remember what it was, but they,\nthe moose were there by themselves."}, {'start': '584.124', 'end': '586.284', 'text': "They're like, great, they can\nfinally have the place to themselves."}, {'start': '586.614', 'end': '590.004', 'text': 'And they started eating their own\nhabitat away and overpopulating.'}, {'start': '590.004', 'end': '591.894', 'text': "And pretty soon the island was\ngonna be gone if they didn't"}, {'start': '591.894', 'end': '593.814', 'text': 'reintroduce moose and or wolves.'}, {'start': '593.814', 'end': '593.964', 'text': 'And.'}, {'start': '595.834', 'end': '596.344', 'text': 'I have a point.'}, {'start': '596.494', 'end': '599.014', 'text': 'So they brought the wolves\nback and reintroduced it and'}, {'start': '599.014', 'end': '600.244', 'text': 'now there is balance again.'}, {'start': '600.244', 'end': '604.204', 'text': 'And I think that when people are in\nnature, we tend to find that balance.'}, {'start': '604.384', 'end': '607.564', 'text': "I'm on Isle Royal and I'm comparing\nthe first night, I'm comparing"}, {'start': '607.564', 'end': '611.584', 'text': "Maya pace to someone else's\npace and it didn't take long."}, {'start': '611.584', 'end': '615.934', 'text': 'And a couple of falls on what rocks for\nme to remember, like this is about me'}, {'start': '615.934', 'end': '617.584', 'text': 'and my journey and my connection here.'}, {'start': '617.734', 'end': '621.994', 'text': "It's not about me comparing to that person\nand me worrying about how fast they're"}, {'start': '621.994', 'end': '623.734', 'text': "going or how long they're staying and."}, {'start': '624.664', 'end': '627.094', 'text': 'And by the next morning it clicked.'}, {'start': '627.094', 'end': '630.604', 'text': "And you're out there and everybody\nis looking for the same thing."}, {'start': '630.604', 'end': '633.844', 'text': "They're, they're noticing weather\npatterns, they're noticing moose tracks."}, {'start': '633.844', 'end': '635.314', 'text': "They're just saying, hi, how are you?"}, {'start': '635.314', 'end': '638.314', 'text': "And they're just connecting because\nnature has just has that bonding."}, {'start': '638.734', 'end': '642.844', 'text': 'We take ourselves out of the story and\njust be there to see what we can learn.'}, {'start': '643.744', 'end': '646.204', 'text': 'And I think that that has\nsomething to do for life too.'}, {'start': '646.204', 'end': '649.474', 'text': 'And women, you know, we tend to wanna\nrelate to each other all the time.'}, {'start': '649.474', 'end': '649.744', 'text': 'Right.'}, {'start': '650.224', 'end': '653.644', 'text': "And I hear your story and let me tell you\nhow I, and sometimes I think it's just"}, {'start': '653.644', 'end': '658.774', 'text': 'an excuse to talk about ourselves, but\nif we stop and just listen, oh my gosh.'}, {'start': '658.774', 'end': '662.044', 'text': 'The things that we can learn from\neach other if we take ourselves out'}, {'start': '662.044', 'end': '663.634', 'text': 'of the story and out of the equation.'}, {'start': '663.634', 'end': '668.644', 'text': "And that's actually why my books\ndon't have illustrations of little"}, {'start': '668.644', 'end': '671.479', 'text': 'white girl running around in\nthe woods because I want anyone.'}, {'start': '672.289', 'end': '675.739', 'text': 'To be able to picture the park\nand see the park for who, who'}, {'start': '675.739', 'end': '677.599', 'text': "she is and, and what's out there."}, {'start': '677.599', 'end': '680.569', 'text': 'And imagine what their life\ncould be like if they could'}, {'start': '680.569', 'end': '681.799', 'text': 'actually be there and see it.'}, {'start': '681.799', 'end': '685.279', 'text': "And I don't know, I think,\nI think we got enough."}, {'start': '686.539', 'end': '690.019', 'text': "We don't have enough space in our brains\nto keep worrying about each other so much."}, {'start': '690.019', 'end': '694.639', 'text': 'And nature kind of removes that and\njust gives us the space to just focus'}, {'start': '694.639', 'end': '696.709', 'text': 'on us and our journey and our growth.'}, {'start': '700.069', 'end': '708.129', 'text': "I love that and I've felt that on  my\nwalks and, so here in Columbia I walk."}, {'start': '708.579', 'end': '711.039', 'text': "I don't, I haven't, I\nknow it's really bad."}, {'start': '711.039', 'end': '712.089', 'text': "I'm born and raised in Columbia."}, {'start': '712.089', 'end': '714.819', 'text': "I haven't actually been to\nCongaree yet, but I do walk"}, {'start': '715.059', 'end': '716.829', 'text': 'along the river in the riverfront'}, {'start': '717.034', 'end': '717.454', 'text': 'Mm-hmm.'}, {'start': '717.639', 'end': '720.579', 'text': "I'm working my way up to,\nI wanna go hiking so bad."}, {'start': '720.579', 'end': '726.609', 'text': "But again, that idea of girls in\nfear, being outside, I'm like, I"}, {'start': '726.609', 'end': '728.109', 'text': "don't wanna hike by myself 'cause."}, {'start': '728.679', 'end': '728.979', 'text': 'Yeah.'}, {'start': '729.609', 'end': '730.719', 'text': 'Yep, I get it.'}, {'start': '731.379', 'end': '731.679', 'text': 'Yep.'}, {'start': '732.189', 'end': '735.819', 'text': "I'm like trying to heal\nthat work and I love that."}, {'start': '736.569', 'end': '744.409', 'text': 'You found healing and grounding in\nnature and,  what kind of you to'}, {'start': '744.679', 'end': '750.749', 'text': 'keep creating these stories for girls\nmoving forward and inspiring,  them to'}, {'start': '750.749', 'end': '752.819', 'text': 'be introduced to the national parks?'}, {'start': '755.594', 'end': '758.234', 'text': 'Part of it could just be a little\nself competition of like, okay,'}, {'start': '758.234', 'end': '759.854', 'text': "well I've only got five books down."}, {'start': '760.184', 'end': '763.574', 'text': "I've got what, 58 to go?"}, {'start': '764.724', 'end': '768.834', 'text': 'Part of it honestly could be that, but\nI heard a quote not too long ago, and'}, {'start': '768.834', 'end': '772.154', 'text': "I don't remember who said it so I can't\ngive credit, but it said,  the only"}, {'start': '772.154', 'end': '775.244', 'text': 'two people you really have to worry\nabout impressing is your 8-year-old'}, {'start': '775.244', 'end': '777.074', 'text': 'self and your 80-year-old self.'}, {'start': '777.794', 'end': '781.424', 'text': 'And that has stuck with me\nsince I read it in August.'}, {'start': '781.524', 'end': '786.084', 'text': "My 8-year-old self will be so fricking\nproud that I'm actually doing this."}, {'start': '786.084', 'end': '790.734', 'text': 'Because if you ask my mom, what did\nAmy wanna be when she was a little'}, {'start': '790.734', 'end': '794.154', 'text': "girl, it was always kids' book author,\nchildren's book author and illustrator."}, {'start': '794.154', 'end': '795.384', 'text': 'I am not the illustrator.'}, {'start': '795.654', 'end': '797.334', 'text': 'I take zero credit for that.'}, {'start': '797.334', 'end': '798.714', 'text': "That is all Drew's work."}, {'start': '798.714', 'end': '802.989', 'text': "But, but like, but I'm doing it\nand I. I chose to leave teaching."}, {'start': '802.989', 'end': '806.049', 'text': "It had become too toxic for me\nto stay in anymore, and I can't"}, {'start': '806.049', 'end': '807.279', 'text': 'compete as an English teacher.'}, {'start': '807.279', 'end': '808.749', 'text': "I couldn't compete with the test."}, {'start': '809.259', 'end': '810.669', 'text': "But, but I'm doing it."}, {'start': '810.669', 'end': '812.649', 'text': 'And like my 8-year-old\nself would be really proud.'}, {'start': '812.649', 'end': '816.819', 'text': "And so for her and for the 8-year-old\ngirl who wasn't an adventure girl,"}, {'start': '816.819', 'end': '820.509', 'text': "didn't go camping, didn't do all these\nthings outside, I wanna prove to her"}, {'start': '820.509', 'end': '824.349', 'text': 'that anything is possible and that you\ncan rebrand even in your mid forties.'}, {'start': '827.494', 'end': '831.249', 'text': 'And even the eight year\nolds who are 30 like me.'}, {'start': '831.834', 'end': '832.104', 'text': 'Yep.'}, {'start': '832.644', 'end': '832.974', 'text': 'Yep.'}, {'start': '833.604', 'end': '838.134', 'text': 'And I do, if I can, if I can be so bold as\nto give you this little tip about Congaree'}, {'start': '838.554', 'end': '843.009', 'text': 'when you get up the nerve as part of your\nhealing journey, when you go there and you'}, {'start': '843.009', 'end': '846.504', 'text': "don't need your pass to get in, but when\nyou go there, go to the visitor center,"}, {'start': '846.504', 'end': '848.364', 'text': "there's a boardwalk right off the back."}, {'start': '848.979', 'end': '850.749', 'text': "It's super accessible."}, {'start': '850.779', 'end': '852.969', 'text': "You're not gonna be out in the\nwoods if you go to the visitor"}, {'start': '852.969', 'end': '854.199', 'text': 'center and just do the boardwalk.'}, {'start': '854.199', 'end': '855.399', 'text': "It's a three mile boardwalk."}, {'start': '855.429', 'end': '857.379', 'text': "You're on the boardwalk,\nyou can't get lost."}, {'start': '858.459', 'end': '861.309', 'text': "So, and it's just, it's just a loop."}, {'start': '861.369', 'end': '861.579', 'text': 'Yep.'}, {'start': '861.579', 'end': '862.359', 'text': "It's just a loop."}, {'start': '862.539', 'end': '866.019', 'text': "And if it's flooded, 'cause sometimes\nit does that 'cause it's a flood plane."}, {'start': '866.289', 'end': '868.899', 'text': 'If the boardwalk is flooded, just turn\naround and take the boardwalk back.'}, {'start': '869.229', 'end': '870.339', 'text': 'You cannot get lost.'}, {'start': '871.854', 'end': '873.324', 'text': 'Okay, appreciate that.'}, {'start': '873.324', 'end': '877.224', 'text': "Because have been intimidated by\nthe parts 'cause I'm like, I don't"}, {'start': '877.224', 'end': '878.754', 'text': 'have anyone to go with like, what,'}, {'start': '878.814', 'end': '879.654', 'text': 'Understandable.'}, {'start': '880.344', 'end': '880.734', 'text': 'So.'}, {'start': '880.914', 'end': '881.394', 'text': 'Okay.'}, {'start': '881.604', 'end': '881.784', 'text': "I'll"}, {'start': '881.904', 'end': '883.704', 'text': 'Yeah, you can do the board.'}, {'start': '883.764', 'end': '888.384', 'text': 'so what are your next\nupcoming books in the series?'}, {'start': '888.704', 'end': '891.734', 'text': 'so just released, the Great Smoke Book.'}, {'start': '891.764', 'end': '894.644', 'text': "So pretty excited about that, and\nthat's getting pretty well received."}, {'start': '895.004', 'end': '898.034', 'text': "Next up is because I'm,\nI'm working on the east."}, {'start': '898.094', 'end': '899.234', 'text': "I'm looking at a map over here."}, {'start': '899.624', 'end': '901.934', 'text': "I'm working on the east\nside of the country first."}, {'start': '901.984', 'end': '906.514', 'text': 'I just, I know that the, when people\nthink national parks, they think big'}, {'start': '906.514', 'end': '910.354', 'text': "ones, they think Utah, they think Glacier,\nthey 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'text': 'Like women who are like, yeah,\nI wanted to try car camping,'}, {'start': '1002.239', 'end': '1003.439', 'text': 'or I wanna camp by myself.'}, {'start': '1003.439', 'end': '1005.689', 'text': "And so, okay, let's,\nlet's do this together."}, {'start': '1005.689', 'end': '1009.139', 'text': "Let me help you and I'll look a\ngroup site and it will get you,"}, {'start': '1009.139', 'end': '1012.379', 'text': 'you can do, go do this and you\nare on your own, but in a group.'}, {'start': '1012.379', 'end': '1013.489', 'text': "So you've got people there."}, {'start': '1013.489', 'end': '1014.989', 'text': "If you're not really sure how to back up."}, {'start': '1015.289', 'end': '1015.949', 'text': 'Your rig.'}, {'start': '1016.249', 'end': '1018.709', 'text': "We've got enough women there\nto help you figure it out and"}, {'start': '1018.709', 'end': '1019.909', 'text': "let's learn from each other."}, {'start': '1019.909', 'end': '1024.259', 'text': "And I'm super excited to,\nto see strong girls travel."}, {'start': '1024.594', 'end': '1025.394', 'text': 'IRL, I guess.'}, {'start': '1028.809', 'end': '1029.324', 'text': 'I love that.'}, {'start': '1029.324', 'end': '1034.174', 'text': "Because I've done the whole solo\ntravel, but meet up with a group and"}, {'start': '1034.174', 'end': '1036.484', 'text': 'I feel like that is like so accessible'}, {'start': '1036.514', 'end': '1036.934', 'text': 'Mm-hmm.'}, {'start': '1037.174', 'end': '1039.424', 'text': 'people looking to do solo travel.'}, {'start': '1039.724', 'end': '1044.654', 'text': 'Especially like I think of people\nlike, two, my aunt and my uncle,'}, {'start': '1044.654', 'end': '1046.634', 'text': 'they bought a RV a couple years ago.'}, {'start': '1046.664', 'end': '1050.714', 'text': "They were like, we don't have any\nidea what to do about anything, but."}, {'start': '1052.619', 'end': '1054.029', 'text': "We're gonna just go around."}, {'start': '1054.509', 'end': '1055.079', 'text': 'Yes.'}, {'start': '1055.439', 'end': '1059.789', 'text': 'And I love the idea of bringing together\npeople in a group because a lot of'}, {'start': '1059.789', 'end': '1064.199', 'text': "people like me, I can't find people\nwho wanna hike with me regularly."}, {'start': '1064.769', 'end': '1065.069', 'text': 'Sure.'}, {'start': '1065.069', 'end': '1065.969', 'text': 'so.'}, {'start': '1066.659', 'end': '1069.629', 'text': "Getting that experience where\nit's less intimidating to"}, {'start': '1069.629', 'end': '1070.949', 'text': 'learn how to do it on your own.'}, {'start': '1070.949', 'end': '1071.309', 'text': 'I think'}, {'start': '1071.489', 'end': '1071.819', 'text': 'Yeah.'}, {'start': '1071.939', 'end': '1072.959', 'text': 'amazing.'}, {'start': '1072.989', 'end': '1073.229', 'text': 'Yeah.'}, {'start': '1073.229', 'end': '1074.099', 'text': "I'm so excited."}, {'start': '1074.489', 'end': '1075.149', 'text': 'yes.'}, {'start': '1075.509', 'end': '1079.169', 'text': 'And my last question for you\nis, what advice would you offer'}, {'start': '1079.169', 'end': '1082.259', 'text': 'listeners who wanna make a positive\nimpact in their communities?'}, {'start': '1083.114', 'end': '1087.824', 'text': "I would say pay attention and maybe don't\nfeel like you have to relate all the time."}, {'start': '1088.244', 'end': '1090.554', 'text': "Just listen, just listening\nto someone's story."}, {'start': '1090.554', 'end': '1094.069', 'text': "What can you learn from them and\nappreciate the journey that they're on."}, {'start': '1094.569', 'end': '1096.789', 'text': "it doesn't always have to be\nabout us relating to each other."}, {'start': '1096.789', 'end': '1097.929', 'text': 'We can just stop and listen.'}, {'start': '1100.004', 'end': '1104.234', 'text': "I love that, and I think that's why\nI started Liberation is Lit because"}, {'start': '1104.474', 'end': '1104.894', 'text': 'Mm-hmm.'}, {'start': '1105.584', 'end': '1108.524', 'text': 'about a year ago that reading\nis great for strengthening that'}, {'start': '1108.524', 'end': '1110.384', 'text': 'active listening muscle because.'}, {'start': '1110.964', 'end': '1112.764', 'text': "You, you can't respond unless"}, {'start': '1112.839', 'end': '1113.139', 'text': 'Yeah.'}, {'start': '1113.214', 'end': '1114.534', 'text': 'you can talk to a book, but'}, {'start': '1114.614', 'end': '1115.144', 'text': 'Yeah, yeah,'}, {'start': '1115.224', 'end': '1117.594', 'text': "can't, you're not listen,\nyou're just listening."}, {'start': '1117.594', 'end': '1119.064', 'text': "You're not listening to respond."}, {'start': '1119.434', 'end': '1121.324', 'text': 'So I, I love that piece of'}, {'start': '1121.674', 'end': '1121.964', 'text': 'yeah.'}, {'start': '1122.194', 'end': '1122.484', 'text': 'Yeah.'}, {'start': '1122.644', 'end': '1125.704', 'text': 'you so much, Amy, for\nbeing on the podcast.'}, {'start': '1125.944', 'end': '1129.754', 'text': "Where can people find you and keep\nup with all of the series that's"}, {'start': '1129.754', 'end': '1132.514', 'text': 'coming out and the IRL stuff.'}, {'start': '1133.279', 'end': '1134.239', 'text': 'Thank you for having me.'}, {'start': '1134.239', 'end': '1135.379', 'text': 'This has been so much fun.'}, {'start': '1135.699', 'end': '1136.899', 'text': 'So Strong Girls Travel.'}, {'start': '1136.899', 'end': '1137.799', 'text': 'Is it?'}, {'start': '1137.799', 'end': '1140.350', 'text': "That's our handle on\nFacebook, Instagram, TikTok."}, {'start': '1140.669', 'end': '1144.689', 'text': "I joke that I'm too old for TikTok,\nbut too young for Life Alert, but"}, {'start': '1144.689', 'end': '1150.054', 'text': "I'm figuring it out and,  so those\nthree,  I'm, I, yes, you can get the"}, {'start': '1150.054', 'end': '1154.894', 'text': 'books on big box stores, but I know you\nhave Congaree  liberation is Lit, has'}, {'start': '1154.894', 'end': '1157.144', 'text': 'Congaree Bookstore or a book in stock.'}, {'start': '1157.144', 'end': '1160.984', 'text': 'I work really hard to call\nlocal bookstores to the parks'}, {'start': '1161.074', 'end': '1162.274', 'text': 'and try and get in there.'}, {'start': '1162.274', 'end': '1164.854', 'text': "And so if anybody's near\na national park and."}, {'start': '1166.264', 'end': '1167.764', 'text': "I can't get into the visitor center yet."}, {'start': '1167.764', 'end': '1169.954', 'text': "They're corporate run, and\nI've been trying for a year,"}, {'start': '1169.954', 'end': '1171.094', 'text': "and I won't quit trying."}, {'start': '1171.094', 'end': '1174.464', 'text': "But,  if you're near a book, if\nyou're at a bookstore near a national"}, {'start': '1174.464', 'end': '1175.754', 'text': "park, ask 'em if they have it."}, {'start': '1175.754', 'end': '1180.729', 'text': "If they're connected with bookshop, they\ncan typically get it for you, so thanks."}, {'start': '1181.134', 'end': '1185.694', 'text': 'Yes, and I will link the bookshop\nlinks too to the other books.'}, {'start': '1186.114', 'end': '1189.834', 'text': 'So thank you again, Amy,\nfor being on the podcast.'}, {'start': '1189.834', 'end': '1193.134', 'text': 'This was a great conversation\nand just help me personally too,'}, {'start': '1193.164', 'end': '1197.274', 'text': 'thinking about how I can more\nintentional about being outside.'}, {'start': '1197.274', 'end': '1199.794', 'text': 'And thank you listeners for.'}, {'start': '1200.269', 'end': '1201.079', 'text': 'Tuning in.'}, {'start': '1201.079', 'end': '1204.349', 'text': 'If you have stories that you wanna\nshare, wanna suggest any topics'}, {'start': '1204.349', 'end': '1207.139', 'text': 'or just wanna connect, you can\nfind us on Instagram, Facebook.'}, {'start': '1208.009', 'end': '1212.149', 'text': 'TikTok at Liberation is Lit, or you can\nvisit our website, liberation is lit.com.'}, {'start': '1212.419', 'end': '1215.029', 'text': 'If you enjoyed the episode,\nplease consider leaving a review.'}, {'start': '1215.029', 'end': '1218.359', 'text': 'And remember, your voice matters\nand together through the lens'}, {'start': '1218.359', 'end': '1220.129', 'text': "of stories, we're gonna make\na difference in the world."}, {'start': '1220.369', 'end': '1221.689', 'text': 'Until next time.'}]