Training officer: Gunshot was not ‘unreasonable’
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[{'start': '0.120', 'end': '2.639', 'text': '[Music]'}, {'start': '0.719', 'end': '4.720', 'text': 'First tonight, the murder trial for ex'}, {'start': '2.639', 'end': '7.680', 'text': 'officer Christopher Sher narrows in on'}, {'start': '4.720', 'end': '10.160', 'text': 'the use of deadly force and the policy'}, {'start': '7.680', 'end': '13.200', 'text': 'around it. The jurors got insight into'}, {'start': '10.160', 'end': '15.519', 'text': 'the 2022 shooting death of Patrick Leoya'}, {'start': '13.200', 'end': '18.000', 'text': 'from the perspective of a halfozen'}, {'start': '15.519', 'end': '21.119', 'text': 'officers, including one who trained'}, {'start': '18.000', 'end': '23.439', 'text': 'Shore. Is there anything about the fact'}, {'start': '21.119', 'end': '25.119', 'text': "that it was a head shot like this that's"}, {'start': '23.439', 'end': '28.400', 'text': 'unreasonable in a deadly force'}, {'start': '25.119', 'end': '30.720', 'text': 'situation? Unreasonable? No.'}, {'start': '28.400', 'end': '32.640', 'text': 'Officer Jason Gaddy, who helped train'}, {'start': '30.720', 'end': '34.559', 'text': 'Shore, was among five active Grand'}, {'start': '32.640', 'end': '37.360', 'text': 'Rapids officers who have testified for'}, {'start': '34.559', 'end': '39.520', 'text': 'the defense, all in uniform. Police he'}, {'start': '37.360', 'end': '41.000', 'text': 'testified are trained not to fire'}, {'start': '39.520', 'end': '43.120', 'text': 'warning shots or to shoot at'}, {'start': '41.000', 'end': '45.440', 'text': 'extremities. He told the jury the goal'}, {'start': '43.120', 'end': '47.760', 'text': 'of using deadly force is quote trying to'}, {'start': '45.440', 'end': '49.840', 'text': "again stop the subject's actions as"}, {'start': '47.760', 'end': '51.840', 'text': 'quickly as possible. Shure is charged'}, {'start': '49.840', 'end': '53.480', 'text': 'with seconddegree murder. Prosecution'}, {'start': '51.840', 'end': '55.760', 'text': 'experts have said the shooting was'}, {'start': '53.480', 'end': '57.840', 'text': 'unreasonable, that sure made mistakes'}, {'start': '55.760', 'end': '59.760', 'text': 'that led to it, and that the taser they'}, {'start': '57.840', 'end': '62.879', 'text': 'were fighting over was no longer a'}, {'start': '59.760', 'end': '65.040', 'text': 'threat. Some questions over that taser'}, {'start': '62.879', 'end': '67.920', 'text': 'were answered by the ninth defense'}, {'start': '65.040', 'end': '71.200', 'text': "witness, Dr. Mark Croll. He's a"}, {'start': '67.920', 'end': '74.000', 'text': 'biomedical scientist and anal weapons'}, {'start': '71.200', 'end': '76.080', 'text': 'expert. He said that even if tasers are'}, {'start': '74.000', 'end': '77.920', 'text': "deployed as a first resort, it's a"}, {'start': '76.080', 'end': '79.600', 'text': 'situation that can easily escalate,'}, {'start': '77.920', 'end': '81.880', 'text': "especially if there's a struggle like"}, {'start': '79.600', 'end': '85.200', 'text': 'the one between Shure and'}, {'start': '81.880', 'end': '88.000', 'text': 'Leoya. Sadly, what happened here happens'}, {'start': '85.200', 'end': '89.680', 'text': 'every month or two across the country'}, {'start': '88.000', 'end': '92.960', 'text': 'because taser electrical weapons are'}, {'start': '89.680', 'end': '95.040', 'text': 'used about 2,000 times a day worldwide,'}, {'start': '92.960', 'end': '98.479', 'text': 'about 1500 times a day in the United'}, {'start': '95.040', 'end': '100.799', 'text': "States. It doesn't always end well. It"}, {'start': '98.479', 'end': '102.920', 'text': "doesn't always do the job. And then so"}, {'start': '100.799', 'end': '105.200', 'text': "there's a transition to"}, {'start': '102.920', 'end': '106.880', 'text': 'firearm. And over a 20-year period,'}, {'start': '105.200', 'end': '109.119', 'text': 'there have been over a thousand deaths'}, {'start': '106.880', 'end': '112.640', 'text': 'where the taser electrical weapon failed'}, {'start': '109.119', 'end': '115.600', 'text': 'to control the situation and the officer'}, {'start': '112.640', 'end': '118.000', 'text': 'moved to lethal force.'}, {'start': '115.600', 'end': '120.399', 'text': 'Kroll said as of 2020, there have been'}, {'start': '118.000', 'end': '122.479', 'text': '113 cases where a suspect has taken'}, {'start': '120.399', 'end': '125.360', 'text': 'control or tried to take control of an'}, {'start': '122.479', 'end': '127.920', 'text': "officer's taser. In 53 of those cases,"}, {'start': '125.360', 'end': '131.200', 'text': 'the officer transitioned to the gun and'}, {'start': '127.920', 'end': '133.040', 'text': 'shot the suspect. Of those 48 end it'}, {'start': '131.200', 'end': '134.879', 'text': 'deadly. Officers previously testified'}, {'start': '133.040', 'end': '137.200', 'text': 'that Shaw was exhausted during the'}, {'start': '134.879', 'end': '139.040', 'text': 'struggle with Leoya.'}, {'start': '137.200', 'end': '140.879', 'text': 'Would it be reasonable for an officer'}, {'start': '139.040', 'end': '142.959', 'text': 'when an individual has disarmed them'}, {'start': '140.879', 'end': '145.360', 'text': 'like that to fear that the individual'}, {'start': '142.959', 'end': '147.760', 'text': 'may use the weapon on them? Yes. The'}, {'start': '145.360', 'end': '149.680', 'text': 'struggle continues where you can see'}, {'start': '147.760', 'end': '153.160', 'text': 'Chris and you can hear his labored'}, {'start': '149.680', 'end': '155.519', 'text': 'breathing um indicative of exertion and'}, {'start': '153.160', 'end': '157.680', 'text': 'exhaustion towards the end of the fight'}, {'start': '155.519', 'end': '160.319', 'text': 'where he is now fighting over the'}, {'start': '157.680', 'end': '162.800', 'text': 'control of his taser and eventually'}, {'start': '160.319', 'end': '166.160', 'text': 'loses control of this dangerous weapon'}, {'start': '162.800', 'end': '168.080', 'text': 'and uh deadly weapon and is then at a'}, {'start': '166.160', 'end': '169.760', 'text': "point where he's exhausted and has very"}, {'start': '168.080', 'end': '173.440', 'text': 'little options other than the use of'}, {'start': '169.760', 'end': '175.200', 'text': 'deadly force to stop the ongoing'}, {'start': '173.440', 'end': '176.959', 'text': 'assault.'}, {'start': '175.200', 'end': '178.879', 'text': 'The defense is expected to wrap up'}, {'start': '176.959', 'end': '182.159', 'text': 'tomorrow. That means it could go to the'}, {'start': '178.879', 'end': '184.480', 'text': 'jury early next week. When asked if Sher'}, {'start': '182.159', 'end': '186.640', 'text': 'would testify, his attorney said, quote,'}, {'start': '184.480', 'end': '188.400', 'text': '"That\'s the million-dollar question."'}, {'start': '186.640', 'end': '190.319', 'text': "We'll have our cameras rolling tomorrow"}, {'start': '188.400', 'end': '192.879', 'text': 'for day five of the trial. Be sure to'}, {'start': '190.319', 'end': '196.239', 'text': 'stay with News8 on WITV.com and WITV'}, {'start': '192.879', 'end': '196.239', 'text': 'Plus in the days ahead.'}]