Exclusive Interview: Leta Chrisman & Lisa Hanes of 'Perfect Arrangement'
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[{'start': '0.080', 'end': '4.000', 'text': 'Thank you so much for joining me today,'}, {'start': '1.520', 'end': '6.640', 'text': 'Lita and Lisa. How are you two doing?'}, {'start': '4.000', 'end': '8.080', 'text': "Fantastic. How are you? Good. We're"}, {'start': '6.640', 'end': '9.360', 'text': 'doing okay. Thank you so much. I know'}, {'start': '8.080', 'end': '11.759', 'text': 'that you have rehearsal tonight, so I'}, {'start': '9.360', 'end': '13.120', 'text': 'know that very busy schedules, but thank'}, {'start': '11.759', 'end': '15.759', 'text': 'you for taking some time to talk with'}, {'start': '13.120', 'end': '17.279', 'text': "us. Absolutely. So, you're currently"}, {'start': '15.759', 'end': '18.960', 'text': 'hard at work with Stage Crafters on'}, {'start': '17.279', 'end': '20.080', 'text': 'their production of Perfect Arrangement.'}, {'start': '18.960', 'end': '22.960', 'text': 'How do you feel the rehearsal process'}, {'start': '20.080', 'end': '25.760', 'text': "has been going so far? It's been kind of"}, {'start': '22.960', 'end': '27.920', 'text': 'intense. Um, we we started a little bit'}, {'start': '25.760', 'end': '30.400', 'text': 'later than we normally would due to'}, {'start': '27.920', 'end': '32.960', 'text': "scheduling things. Um, but it's been"}, {'start': '30.400', 'end': '35.680', 'text': "great. It's been such a good experience"}, {'start': '32.960', 'end': '38.640', 'text': 'across the board. Um, lots of really'}, {'start': '35.680', 'end': '41.280', 'text': "good work. Everybody's bonded. Um, yeah."}, {'start': '38.640', 'end': '43.040', 'text': "And we're having a lot of fun. So, yeah,"}, {'start': '41.280', 'end': '45.520', 'text': "it's that's the main takeaway. It should"}, {'start': '43.040', 'end': '47.760', 'text': 'be fun. Yeah,'}, {'start': '45.520', 'end': '50.000', 'text': "it's supposed to be. That's why we do"}, {'start': '47.760', 'end': '52.000', 'text': "it. If it's not fun, then why are we"}, {'start': '50.000', 'end': '54.399', 'text': 'doing it?'}, {'start': '52.000', 'end': '56.680', 'text': "Lisa, how's the the uh rehearsal process"}, {'start': '54.399', 'end': '59.840', 'text': "been for you? It's"}, {'start': '56.680', 'end': '62.719', 'text': 'been amazing. I mean, I started off as'}, {'start': '59.840', 'end': '65.439', 'text': 'her assistant director, um, which in'}, {'start': '62.719', 'end': '68.320', 'text': 'itself was amazing. And now being in the'}, {'start': '65.439', 'end': '70.479', 'text': "role of Kitty, it's just it's been a"}, {'start': '68.320', 'end': '74.400', 'text': 'blast. We have a wonderful cast. We are'}, {'start': '70.479', 'end': '76.000', 'text': "all so quirky and fun and they're such a"}, {'start': '74.400', 'end': '77.600', 'text': "good group of people. So, I've loved"}, {'start': '76.000', 'end': '79.119', 'text': 'every moment. So, for those who maybe'}, {'start': '77.600', 'end': '80.400', 'text': "aren't aware of what the show is, and"}, {'start': '79.119', 'end': '82.880', 'text': "Lisa, I'm going to start with you. What"}, {'start': '80.400', 'end': '84.799', 'text': 'is Perfect Arrangement about? Um, Lita'}, {'start': '82.880', 'end': '87.680', 'text': 'will probably explain it much better'}, {'start': '84.799', 'end': '90.640', 'text': 'than I will um because this is her baby.'}, {'start': '87.680', 'end': '93.960', 'text': "But to me, Perfect Arrangement is it's"}, {'start': '90.640', 'end': '96.560', 'text': "set in the 1950s and it's about lavender"}, {'start': '93.960', 'end': '99.439', 'text': 'marriages which at that time were'}, {'start': '96.560', 'end': '103.119', 'text': 'marriages between gay couples. So'}, {'start': '99.439', 'end': '105.920', 'text': 'because of McCarthyism and the era,'}, {'start': '103.119', 'end': '108.240', 'text': 'people were not too keen on men marrying'}, {'start': '105.920', 'end': '111.600', 'text': 'men or women marrying women or even them'}, {'start': '108.240', 'end': '114.079', 'text': 'being together, not even marriage. So,'}, {'start': '111.600', 'end': '115.680', 'text': 'and this is what happened then is that a'}, {'start': '114.079', 'end': '118.000', 'text': 'man and a woman even though they were'}, {'start': '115.680', 'end': '120.240', 'text': 'not into each other would get married'}, {'start': '118.000', 'end': '124.479', 'text': 'for convenience so that they could live'}, {'start': '120.240', 'end': '128.640', 'text': 'their life and also have their love who'}, {'start': '124.479', 'end': '131.920', 'text': 'was of the same sex in their lives. And'}, {'start': '128.640', 'end': '134.000', 'text': 'this shows what two couples go through'}, {'start': '131.920', 'end': '136.360', 'text': 'um and how what they thought was a'}, {'start': '134.000', 'end': '139.360', 'text': 'perfect arrangement uh ends up not'}, {'start': '136.360', 'end': '143.280', 'text': "being. And then there's another uh"}, {'start': '139.360', 'end': '146.080', 'text': 'couple in this craziness um who are a'}, {'start': '143.280', 'end': '150.800', 'text': 'heterosexual couple and who kind of put'}, {'start': '146.080', 'end': '153.519', 'text': 'in their two cents and one of them Kitty'}, {'start': '150.800', 'end': '155.040', 'text': "is um she's good good gal at heart. She"}, {'start': '153.519', 'end': '157.680', 'text': 'just kind of follows along with the'}, {'start': '155.040', 'end': '160.400', 'text': 'times and with what her husband says. So'}, {'start': '157.680', 'end': '162.959', 'text': "it's a beautiful show. It's funny. It"}, {'start': '160.400', 'end': '164.879', 'text': 'also pulls at your heartstrings. But'}, {'start': '162.959', 'end': '167.280', 'text': 'Lita, I think could probably add a lot'}, {'start': '164.879', 'end': '168.800', 'text': 'more than I could. That was really good,'}, {'start': '167.280', 'end': '170.879', 'text': 'though. That was really good. I know'}, {'start': '168.800', 'end': '172.640', 'text': 'that hit all the important parts, but'}, {'start': '170.879', 'end': '174.160', 'text': 'obviously with this being your your baby'}, {'start': '172.640', 'end': '175.599', 'text': 'as she described it, I want to hear from'}, {'start': '174.160', 'end': '179.599', 'text': 'you about what a perfect arrangement is'}, {'start': '175.599', 'end': '183.200', 'text': 'to you. So, it the word that pops in my'}, {'start': '179.599', 'end': '186.239', 'text': "brain first and it's um kind of sad all"}, {'start': '183.200', 'end': '188.560', 'text': "at the same time is relevant. Um I've"}, {'start': '186.239', 'end': '191.920', 'text': 'been trying to find a place to do this'}, {'start': '188.560', 'end': '195.360', 'text': 'show for a couple of years now and it'}, {'start': '191.920', 'end': '197.360', 'text': 'gets more relevant by the day. um which'}, {'start': '195.360', 'end': '199.040', 'text': "is it's kind of a large responsibility"}, {'start': '197.360', 'end': '201.519', 'text': 'for all of us to kind of be true to the'}, {'start': '199.040', 'end': '202.879', 'text': 'source material, but two of the main'}, {'start': '201.519', 'end': '204.319', 'text': 'characters, one of the men and one of'}, {'start': '202.879', 'end': '206.319', 'text': 'the women work at the State Department'}, {'start': '204.319', 'end': '209.120', 'text': "and it is 1950. It's the height of the"}, {'start': '206.319', 'end': '211.200', 'text': "communism hunt. Um and they've married"}, {'start': '209.120', 'end': '212.959', 'text': "each other's partners as cover so they"}, {'start': '211.200', 'end': '213.720', 'text': 'can maintain their lifestyle and go'}, {'start': '212.959', 'end': '218.080', 'text': 'about'}, {'start': '213.720', 'end': '220.480', 'text': "existing. And it's it starts off really"}, {'start': '218.080', 'end': '222.959', 'text': 'fun. The playwright Toeer Payne set it'}, {'start': '220.480', 'end': '225.120', 'text': 'firmly in I Love Lucy as a as a'}, {'start': '222.959', 'end': '228.159', 'text': 'framework. So the first part of the show'}, {'start': '225.120', 'end': '230.720', 'text': "is very sitcom. It's very goofy. Um"}, {'start': '228.159', 'end': '233.040', 'text': "there's random little product placement"}, {'start': '230.720', 'end': '234.799', 'text': 'commercial type things that happen in'}, {'start': '233.040', 'end': '236.239', 'text': "different places. I'm spoiling so many"}, {'start': '234.799', 'end': '237.959', 'text': "good things, but you don't really get"}, {'start': '236.239', 'end': '241.680', 'text': 'the whole experience unless you see it.'}, {'start': '237.959', 'end': '243.599', 'text': "Uh but then as it goes on um there's a"}, {'start': '241.680', 'end': '244.640', 'text': "transition towards the it's kind of at"}, {'start': '243.599', 'end': '246.799', 'text': 'the beginning of the show where instead'}, {'start': '244.640', 'end': '248.400', 'text': 'of just hunting communists the state'}, {'start': '246.799', 'end': '252.319', 'text': 'department has decided they also need to'}, {'start': '248.400', 'end': '254.400', 'text': 'find people who are deviants and people'}, {'start': '252.319', 'end': '258.000', 'text': 'who go out and party and people who are'}, {'start': '254.400', 'end': '260.079', 'text': "homosexual and people who don't follow"}, {'start': '258.000', 'end': '263.600', 'text': 'the standard traditional moral code of'}, {'start': '260.079', 'end': '265.840', 'text': 'the time. So we have all of our people'}, {'start': '263.600', 'end': '267.600', 'text': 'kind of get swept up in this experience.'}, {'start': '265.840', 'end': '269.360', 'text': 'One of our main characters, Bob, is'}, {'start': '267.600', 'end': '272.080', 'text': 'actually the head of the program and he'}, {'start': '269.360', 'end': '274.880', 'text': 'is also gay. So, him trying to figure'}, {'start': '272.080', 'end': '277.120', 'text': 'out ways to keep himself from getting'}, {'start': '274.880', 'end': '278.560', 'text': 'clocked, but also find ways to find'}, {'start': '277.120', 'end': '281.840', 'text': "other people in the department so it's"}, {'start': '278.560', 'end': '284.320', 'text': "not obvious he's deflecting. Um, it's a"}, {'start': '281.840', 'end': '287.120', 'text': "really it's a it's a struggle for all of"}, {'start': '284.320', 'end': '288.960', 'text': "them. And then we also have um there's a"}, {'start': '287.120', 'end': '290.400', 'text': 'fabulous character named Barbara Grant'}, {'start': '288.960', 'end': '293.280', 'text': 'who works with them at the State'}, {'start': '290.400', 'end': '296.800', 'text': 'Department who is a very forwardthinking'}, {'start': '293.280', 'end': '298.240', 'text': 'gal for 1950. Um, and she kind of gets'}, {'start': '296.800', 'end': '301.440', 'text': "swept up in it because she doesn't"}, {'start': '298.240', 'end': '305.360', 'text': 'really subscribe to society norms. And'}, {'start': '301.440', 'end': '306.880', 'text': "it's just it's a beautiful story. My"}, {'start': '305.360', 'end': '309.080', 'text': 'favorite thing about it is that it takes'}, {'start': '306.880', 'end': '311.840', 'text': 'these characters who not everyone, you'}, {'start': '309.080', 'end': '314.160', 'text': 'know, has people in their lives who have'}, {'start': '311.840', 'end': '315.600', 'text': 'alternative lifestyles or who are gay or'}, {'start': '314.160', 'end': '318.400', 'text': 'who are, you know, just a little off the'}, {'start': '315.600', 'end': '320.320', 'text': "beaten path. So, it's grounded so firmly"}, {'start': '318.400', 'end': '322.320', 'text': 'in it just being a fact of their'}, {'start': '320.320', 'end': '324.639', 'text': 'existence as opposed to the focus of'}, {'start': '322.320', 'end': '326.240', 'text': 'their existence that we really just kind'}, {'start': '324.639', 'end': '327.880', 'text': 'of get a really great story about some'}, {'start': '326.240', 'end': '330.720', 'text': 'really great relationships and'}, {'start': '327.880', 'end': '333.440', 'text': 'characters. And the fact that some of'}, {'start': '330.720', 'end': '334.960', 'text': 'them are indeed gay kind of just'}, {'start': '333.440', 'end': '336.440', 'text': 'although it is a plot point kind of'}, {'start': '334.960', 'end': '338.479', 'text': "isn't as"}, {'start': '336.440', 'end': '339.680', 'text': "important. It's more just that they're"}, {'start': '338.479', 'end': '343.520', 'text': "humans and they're going through"}, {'start': '339.680', 'end': '345.600', 'text': 'struggles. So, which obviously as a'}, {'start': '343.520', 'end': '347.360', 'text': 'therapist and as a gay man, we love to'}, {'start': '345.600', 'end': '349.039', 'text': "see it normalized where it's just a it's"}, {'start': '347.360', 'end': '350.880', 'text': "just an aspect of who they are. It's not"}, {'start': '349.039', 'end': '353.039', 'text': "who they are, you know? Yeah. There's"}, {'start': '350.880', 'end': '354.479', 'text': "there's a decent amount of objectionable"}, {'start': '353.039', 'end': '358.000', 'text': 'language that was perfectly commonly'}, {'start': '354.479', 'end': '360.479', 'text': 'used in 1950 to describe people. Um, and'}, {'start': '358.000', 'end': '362.080', 'text': "we've put some I've posted some warnings"}, {'start': '360.479', 'end': '364.080', 'text': 'for people coming to see the show'}, {'start': '362.080', 'end': '366.080', 'text': 'because while we are using the language'}, {'start': '364.080', 'end': '368.400', 'text': "because it's true to the script and true"}, {'start': '366.080', 'end': '370.240', 'text': "to the time, we don't condone it. It"}, {'start': '368.400', 'end': '372.240', 'text': 'made us all feel really icky when we'}, {'start': '370.240', 'end': '373.600', 'text': 'started saying it in rehearsal. Um,'}, {'start': '372.240', 'end': '375.360', 'text': "there's a lot of hugging that goes on"}, {'start': '373.600', 'end': '377.440', 'text': "because it's a very emotional process to"}, {'start': '375.360', 'end': '379.600', 'text': 'get through. Um, but there is no trigger'}, {'start': '377.440', 'end': '380.880', 'text': 'warning for for samesex relationships'}, {'start': '379.600', 'end': '383.520', 'text': "cuz I don't think that's something that"}, {'start': '380.880', 'end': '386.240', 'text': 'needs trigger warning. It is a fact of'}, {'start': '383.520', 'end': '388.960', 'text': 'life in existence. Um, I would say out'}, {'start': '386.240', 'end': '392.160', 'text': 'of the people involved, cast and crew,'}, {'start': '388.960', 'end': '393.280', 'text': 'at least a solid 50% if not more,'}, {'start': '392.160', 'end': '394.960', 'text': 'identify somewhere on the queer'}, {'start': '393.280', 'end': '396.800', 'text': 'spectrum. um which is a beautiful thing'}, {'start': '394.960', 'end': '400.240', 'text': 'to work with because everyone brings a'}, {'start': '396.800', 'end': '402.800', 'text': 'sense of authenticity to it and a sense'}, {'start': '400.240', 'end': '406.880', 'text': 'of respect to it. Um and also a sense of'}, {'start': '402.800', 'end': '409.120', 'text': 'really really fun to um which is great.'}, {'start': '406.880', 'end': '410.319', 'text': 'Absolutely. I mean again like we said if'}, {'start': '409.120', 'end': '411.520', 'text': "you're not having fun why are we doing"}, {'start': '410.319', 'end': '415.280', 'text': "this? But it's also an important story"}, {'start': '411.520', 'end': '416.400', 'text': 'to be telling. Yeah. So you know is this'}, {'start': '415.280', 'end': '418.880', 'text': 'kind of what drew you to wanting to'}, {'start': '416.400', 'end': '420.000', 'text': 'direct this show or like it sounds like'}, {'start': '418.880', 'end': '421.199', 'text': "again you've been very passionate about"}, {'start': '420.000', 'end': '422.720', 'text': 'this. Were you familiar with it'}, {'start': '421.199', 'end': '425.039', 'text': 'beforehand?'}, {'start': '422.720', 'end': '426.800', 'text': 'Um, so I came across the script a few'}, {'start': '425.039', 'end': '428.240', 'text': 'years ago. I was just looking for stuff.'}, {'start': '426.800', 'end': '429.680', 'text': 'Um, I do personally identify on the'}, {'start': '428.240', 'end': '432.160', 'text': 'queer spectrum, so I was looking for'}, {'start': '429.680', 'end': '434.319', 'text': 'stuff that I could see myself in that I'}, {'start': '432.160', 'end': '436.319', 'text': 'could see myself invested in. Um, I'}, {'start': '434.319', 'end': '438.479', 'text': "think it's important as a director to"}, {'start': '436.319', 'end': '440.400', 'text': 'approach things with um, a really solid'}, {'start': '438.479', 'end': '442.479', 'text': "intention for what you're putting on"}, {'start': '440.400', 'end': '444.520', 'text': "stage and why you're telling the story."}, {'start': '442.479', 'end': '448.199', 'text': 'Um, and I read the script and at the'}, {'start': '444.520', 'end': '451.199', 'text': "time, thankfully, it wasn't"}, {'start': '448.199', 'end': '454.000', 'text': "as relevant to what we're going through"}, {'start': '451.199', 'end': '455.280', 'text': 'right now society and politically. Um,'}, {'start': '454.000', 'end': '456.880', 'text': 'but I was like, "This is a beautiful'}, {'start': '455.280', 'end': '458.479', 'text': 'story. Someone should do this. I would'}, {'start': '456.880', 'end': '459.919', 'text': 'love to do this. I wonder if any of the'}, {'start': '458.479', 'end': '462.720', 'text': 'theaters will give me a chance to do'}, {'start': '459.919', 'end': '466.400', 'text': 'this." Um, and it just so happened that'}, {'start': '462.720', 'end': '468.160', 'text': 'the timing and the stroke of luck that'}, {'start': '466.400', 'end': '472.160', 'text': 'worked out that we are currently doing'}, {'start': '468.160', 'end': '473.680', 'text': 'it here at Stage Crafters. So,'}, {'start': '472.160', 'end': '476.639', 'text': "And Lisa, you so you said you're in the"}, {'start': '473.680', 'end': '477.919', 'text': "show you're playing Kitty, correct? Um,"}, {'start': '476.639', 'end': '479.680', 'text': 'so you kind of gave us a little bit of'}, {'start': '477.919', 'end': '481.039', 'text': 'it, but like who is Kitty and then like'}, {'start': '479.680', 'end': '482.160', 'text': 'how does she really factor into all of'}, {'start': '481.039', 'end': '484.400', 'text': "this? Cuz she sounds like she's kind of"}, {'start': '482.160', 'end': '488.560', 'text': 'on the outskirts of like the main'}, {'start': '484.400', 'end': '494.240', 'text': 'lavender marriages. She is. Kitty is a'}, {'start': '488.560', 'end': '498.160', 'text': "typical 1950s suburban wife. Um, she's a"}, {'start': '494.240', 'end': '501.680', 'text': 'delight. She uses words like goody and'}, {'start': '498.160', 'end': '505.599', 'text': "you know she's just God bless her. She's"}, {'start': '501.680', 'end': '509.360', 'text': 'a little not intelligent in some areas,'}, {'start': '505.599', 'end': '511.280', 'text': 'but she has the biggest heart and all'}, {'start': '509.360', 'end': '515.039', 'text': 'she wants really is to fit in and have'}, {'start': '511.280', 'end': '517.360', 'text': 'some girlfriends and because she never'}, {'start': '515.039', 'end': '519.519', 'text': 'really had that growing up. and she'}, {'start': '517.360', 'end': '521.279', 'text': "adores her husband because he didn't"}, {'start': '519.519', 'end': '526.480', 'text': "want to have kids and she didn't want to"}, {'start': '521.279', 'end': '527.839', 'text': "have kids and but she's very she notices"}, {'start': '526.480', 'end': '529.440', 'text': "things that maybe other people don't"}, {'start': '527.839', 'end': '532.080', 'text': "notice. Everyone just thinks she's"}, {'start': '529.440', 'end': '534.720', 'text': 'stupid and just sits there and is like'}, {'start': '532.080', 'end': '537.519', 'text': "but she notices things and it isn't"}, {'start': '534.720', 'end': '540.800', 'text': 'until she finds a friend in Millie that'}, {'start': '537.519', 'end': '544.480', 'text': 'she starts sharing what she notices. But'}, {'start': '540.800', 'end': '547.519', 'text': "I love her. Um, I I wasn't sure about"}, {'start': '544.480', 'end': '550.279', 'text': "her at first cuz she's so not me, but I"}, {'start': '547.519', 'end': '553.040', 'text': 'have grown to love this beautiful little'}, {'start': '550.279', 'end': '554.880', 'text': "creature who she's about, to me, she's"}, {'start': '553.040', 'end': '556.880', 'text': 'love, right? She just wants to love. She'}, {'start': '554.880', 'end': '560.399', 'text': 'loves her husband. She wants friends.'}, {'start': '556.880', 'end': '562.399', 'text': 'She just wants to have a good time. And'}, {'start': '560.399', 'end': '564.800', 'text': 'um I think she starts to realize though'}, {'start': '562.399', 'end': '566.760', 'text': "towards the end that maybe what she's"}, {'start': '564.800', 'end': '570.480', 'text': 'been thinking really'}, {'start': '566.760', 'end': '572.480', 'text': "wasn't appropriate. But I love her and"}, {'start': '570.480', 'end': '574.880', 'text': "she's actually married to the boss who"}, {'start': '572.480', 'end': '577.120', 'text': 'instigates all of the drama in the first'}, {'start': '574.880', 'end': '579.200', 'text': "place. It's a it's a really interesting"}, {'start': '577.120', 'end': '582.160', 'text': 'relationship to see cuz he is super'}, {'start': '579.200', 'end': '584.560', 'text': 'business guy who runs half of the State'}, {'start': '582.160', 'end': '587.560', 'text': 'Department and is on a crusade to get'}, {'start': '584.560', 'end': '591.360', 'text': 'rid of anything different.'}, {'start': '587.560', 'end': '593.040', 'text': 'Um, and to see the two of them and we'}, {'start': '591.360', 'end': '594.800', 'text': 'only see them on stage together at the'}, {'start': '593.040', 'end': '596.480', 'text': 'very beginning of the show. we see a lot'}, {'start': '594.800', 'end': '598.880', 'text': "more of Kitty because she's forming"}, {'start': '596.480', 'end': '600.720', 'text': 'relationships with one of the ladies um'}, {'start': '598.880', 'end': '604.160', 'text': 'in a friendship sort of way and in a'}, {'start': '600.720', 'end': '606.240', 'text': 'bonding over life sort of way. Um which'}, {'start': '604.160', 'end': '608.160', 'text': 'I love cuz Kitty is very much not a'}, {'start': '606.240', 'end': '610.560', 'text': 'lesbian unlike the other two women and'}, {'start': '608.160', 'end': '612.839', 'text': 'that are the center of the story. Um,'}, {'start': '610.560', 'end': '615.360', 'text': 'but her ability to form those'}, {'start': '612.839', 'end': '617.600', 'text': 'connections and just see people as'}, {'start': '615.360', 'end': '620.079', 'text': 'people is really a really a beautiful'}, {'start': '617.600', 'end': '621.360', 'text': "thing because you don't always a lot of"}, {'start': '620.079', 'end': '623.120', 'text': 'times characters like that are written'}, {'start': '621.360', 'end': '625.839', 'text': 'as very one-dimensional and very'}, {'start': '623.120', 'end': '627.279', 'text': 'judgmental um and very narrow and she'}, {'start': '625.839', 'end': '629.440', 'text': 'just I think she has one of the best'}, {'start': '627.279', 'end': '631.760', 'text': 'arcs in the whole thing. She just opens'}, {'start': '629.440', 'end': '633.760', 'text': 'up over the course of meeting these'}, {'start': '631.760', 'end': '636.800', 'text': "women and she doesn't really get the big"}, {'start': '633.760', 'end': '639.680', 'text': 'aha moment at all. Um the big unraveling'}, {'start': '636.800', 'end': '641.360', 'text': "happens after she's gone from the stage,"}, {'start': '639.680', 'end': '642.959', 'text': "but it's just really great to see her"}, {'start': '641.360', 'end': '645.920', 'text': 'just accept that a person is a person'}, {'start': '642.959', 'end': '647.040', 'text': 'and not really question any of it. Yeah,'}, {'start': '645.920', 'end': '648.399', 'text': 'I was going to say you use the word'}, {'start': '647.040', 'end': '650.399', 'text': "connection and it sounds like that's"}, {'start': '648.399', 'end': '651.839', 'text': "what she's really craving is like human"}, {'start': '650.399', 'end': '653.200', 'text': 'interaction and connection in a time'}, {'start': '651.839', 'end': '654.560', 'text': "where she didn't have that. So there"}, {'start': '653.200', 'end': '655.920', 'text': 'does seem to be a level of heaviness.'}, {'start': '654.560', 'end': '657.120', 'text': 'When I was kind of researching the show,'}, {'start': '655.920', 'end': '658.240', 'text': 'I was like, "Oh, this this feels a'}, {'start': '657.120', 'end': '660.800', 'text': "little heavy, but it's also being"}, {'start': '658.240', 'end': '662.720', 'text': 'described as a comedy." How do you feel'}, {'start': '660.800', 'end': '665.120', 'text': 'like Perfect Arrangement balances that'}, {'start': '662.720', 'end': '667.360', 'text': 'tone? We we joked like when we did our'}, {'start': '665.120', 'end': '669.440', 'text': 'first read through, they had most of the'}, {'start': '667.360', 'end': '672.320', 'text': 'cast had seen parts of the script um at'}, {'start': '669.440', 'end': '674.160', 'text': 'auditions, but none of them had actually'}, {'start': '672.320', 'end': '677.200', 'text': 'seen the show or were familiar with the'}, {'start': '674.160', 'end': '679.360', 'text': 'whole thing. Um the first half is very'}, {'start': '677.200', 'end': '682.320', 'text': "light. It's very there are points that"}, {'start': '679.360', 'end': '684.480', 'text': "it's just zany and silly and then we get"}, {'start': '682.320', 'end': '686.240', 'text': 'to intermission and then things slowly'}, {'start': '684.480', 'end': '690.000', 'text': 'start taking on a bit of a darker, more'}, {'start': '686.240', 'end': '691.839', 'text': "serious tone and at the end it's uh"}, {'start': '690.000', 'end': '694.640', 'text': 'comedy is such an interesting. It is'}, {'start': '691.839', 'end': '697.519', 'text': 'very much a comedy for most of the show.'}, {'start': '694.640', 'end': '699.600', 'text': 'Um the ending is'}, {'start': '697.519', 'end': '703.800', 'text': 'realistic.'}, {'start': '699.600', 'end': '706.200', 'text': 'Okay. Um and very emotional. Um we'}, {'start': '703.800', 'end': '708.959', 'text': 'spend a lot of'}, {'start': '706.200', 'end': '710.720', 'text': 'time dealing with processing our own'}, {'start': '708.959', 'end': '711.640', 'text': 'personal emotions around it because it'}, {'start': '710.720', 'end': '714.600', 'text': 'is heavy'}, {'start': '711.640', 'end': '718.399', 'text': 'stuff. But what I love is'}, {'start': '714.600', 'end': '720.560', 'text': 'that it feels so real'}, {'start': '718.399', 'end': '722.480', 'text': "for them. before me. I've seen it so"}, {'start': '720.560', 'end': '724.560', 'text': 'many times now just watching rehearsals'}, {'start': '722.480', 'end': '725.680', 'text': 'and running rehearsals. Um we had a'}, {'start': '724.560', 'end': '727.360', 'text': 'couple of people who are going to be'}, {'start': '725.680', 'end': '728.639', 'text': 'doing um technical stuff for the show'}, {'start': '727.360', 'end': '730.959', 'text': 'who came to watch the run through last'}, {'start': '728.639', 'end': '733.480', 'text': 'night and they were just like so many'}, {'start': '730.959', 'end': '737.200', 'text': 'emotions like'}, {'start': '733.480', 'end': '738.720', 'text': "yay. Um but it's it's very real. Not"}, {'start': '737.200', 'end': '740.079', 'text': "there's a line that Kitty has and it's"}, {'start': '738.720', 'end': '743.279', 'text': 'one of my favorite in the show which is'}, {'start': '740.079', 'end': '745.279', 'text': "sometimes things just don't work out and"}, {'start': '743.279', 'end': '747.040', 'text': "it's kind of her mantra for a lot of the"}, {'start': '745.279', 'end': '749.360', 'text': "things that she's had to overcome in her"}, {'start': '747.040', 'end': '751.040', 'text': 'life and it gets echoed by some of the'}, {'start': '749.360', 'end': '754.320', 'text': 'other characters towards the end and'}, {'start': '751.040', 'end': '757.440', 'text': "it's so real. There is there's not I"}, {'start': '754.320', 'end': '759.600', 'text': 'mean it was it was it was not a great'}, {'start': '757.440', 'end': '764.360', 'text': 'time in history for people who were not'}, {'start': '759.600', 'end': '766.880', 'text': 'cishat white men. Um relevance and'}, {'start': '764.360', 'end': '770.320', 'text': 'uh just'}, {'start': '766.880', 'end': '772.320', 'text': 'being able to make it so fun and bring'}, {'start': '770.320', 'end': '774.120', 'text': 'the audience in and really just engage'}, {'start': '772.320', 'end': '777.440', 'text': 'them and invest them in these'}, {'start': '774.120', 'end': '779.360', 'text': 'relationships and then give us an ending'}, {'start': '777.440', 'end': '781.920', 'text': "that is not at all I don't think what"}, {'start': '779.360', 'end': '783.600', 'text': 'anyone really wants to see but kind of'}, {'start': '781.920', 'end': '785.040', 'text': "what we need to see and what's true to"}, {'start': '783.600', 'end': '787.839', 'text': 'the story and true to what life would'}, {'start': '785.040', 'end': '790.000', 'text': "have been like is uh it's pretty great."}, {'start': '787.839', 'end': '792.240', 'text': 'Mhm. I truly think it is important too'}, {'start': '790.000', 'end': '794.639', 'text': 'that people see realistic stories that'}, {'start': '792.240', 'end': '796.240', 'text': "don't always have the per, you know, a"}, {'start': '794.639', 'end': '797.279', 'text': 'lot of the times we grew up I grew up in'}, {'start': '796.240', 'end': '798.639', 'text': 'a family that we watched a lot of'}, {'start': '797.279', 'end': '800.000', 'text': 'romcoms and everything gets kind of'}, {'start': '798.639', 'end': '802.320', 'text': 'wrapped up in their pretty little bow'}, {'start': '800.000', 'end': '804.160', 'text': 'and life is not like that. So Lisa, for'}, {'start': '802.320', 'end': '806.720', 'text': 'you, how do you get into the mindset of'}, {'start': '804.160', 'end': '809.519', 'text': 'Kitty then? So would you have to be'}, {'start': '806.720', 'end': '810.360', 'text': 'specific? She actually reminds me of a'}, {'start': '809.519', 'end': '816.320', 'text': 'friend of'}, {'start': '810.360', 'end': '818.639', 'text': 'mine from college in her night night'}, {'start': '816.320', 'end': '822.720', 'text': "naeness. That's not the word. Naive."}, {'start': '818.639', 'end': '827.040', 'text': "Naive. It's very French. Yes. And and"}, {'start': '822.720', 'end': '829.600', 'text': 'her just laness. I have a a dear friend'}, {'start': '827.040', 'end': '832.000', 'text': 'that reminds me of her. That and I just'}, {'start': '829.600', 'end': '834.160', 'text': 'kind of I dig deep into my heart and'}, {'start': '832.000', 'end': '836.720', 'text': 'think what would I if I could make the'}, {'start': '834.160', 'end': '838.720', 'text': 'world how I want it. How would I want'}, {'start': '836.720', 'end': '840.720', 'text': 'it? I would want it happy and I would'}, {'start': '838.720', 'end': '842.959', 'text': 'like everyone to get along and I would'}, {'start': '840.720', 'end': '846.639', 'text': 'just like everyone to be friend and I'}, {'start': '842.959', 'end': '849.360', 'text': 'kind of think like Snow White. Ah, so'}, {'start': '846.639', 'end': '853.120', 'text': "that's kind of where I pull from and the"}, {'start': '849.360', 'end': '856.160', 'text': 'fact that I just find her hysterical and'}, {'start': '853.120', 'end': '858.720', 'text': 'so I just dig into that and I get to be'}, {'start': '856.160', 'end': '862.839', 'text': 'a little ridiculous and Lita lets me be'}, {'start': '858.720', 'end': '865.440', 'text': 'ridiculous and hey, okay. So I'}, {'start': '862.839', 'end': '867.519', 'text': 'um I just I think about my friend, I'}, {'start': '865.440', 'end': '869.600', 'text': 'throw in a little Snow White in there'}, {'start': '867.519', 'end': '872.480', 'text': 'and then I just let it loose and I have'}, {'start': '869.600', 'end': '874.800', 'text': "a good time. So that's fantastic. Um,"}, {'start': '872.480', 'end': '876.880', 'text': 'Lita, what is your kind of approach to'}, {'start': '874.800', 'end': '878.480', 'text': 'directing a show? I know that every'}, {'start': '876.880', 'end': '880.639', 'text': 'director has their own approach to how'}, {'start': '878.480', 'end': '884.079', 'text': 'they kind of bring their vision to life.'}, {'start': '880.639', 'end': '886.959', 'text': 'What is your approach to this? I I am a'}, {'start': '884.079', 'end': '888.800', 'text': "huge collaborator. Um, I don't ever I go"}, {'start': '886.959', 'end': '890.519', 'text': 'in with a very strong vision of what I'}, {'start': '888.800', 'end': '894.639', 'text': 'want to see and how the show is going to'}, {'start': '890.519', 'end': '896.920', 'text': "go, but we don't ever pre-cast. We don't"}, {'start': '894.639', 'end': '900.639', 'text': 'ever really look at things like that.'}, {'start': '896.920', 'end': '903.360', 'text': 'Um, I like to see what people bring to'}, {'start': '900.639', 'end': '904.959', 'text': 'the table. 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I'm really big on intention"}, {'start': '935.440', 'end': '941.680', 'text': 'and and things being real and grounded'}, {'start': '938.240', 'end': '943.760', 'text': 'and believable. Even if I do even if I'}, {'start': '941.680', 'end': '945.360', 'text': 'do like super crazy musical stuff where'}, {'start': '943.760', 'end': '946.959', 'text': "everyone's bursting in a song every 5"}, {'start': '945.360', 'end': '949.120', 'text': 'minutes, no one should be on the stage'}, {'start': '946.959', 'end': '952.040', 'text': "who doesn't have a point of being there"}, {'start': '949.120', 'end': '955.040', 'text': 'and understand what their purpose is.'}, {'start': '952.040', 'end': '956.800', 'text': 'Um, I tend to do comedies a lot for some'}, {'start': '955.040', 'end': '959.519', 'text': 'reason. 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My"}, {'start': '975.279', 'end': '980.560', 'text': 'opinion, although technically the final'}, {'start': '977.040', 'end': '982.000', 'text': 'word is never the only word. I love when'}, {'start': '980.560', 'end': '983.600', 'text': 'people say to me, "This isn\'t working'}, {'start': '982.000', 'end': '985.040', 'text': 'for me. Can we try something else?"'}, {'start': '983.600', 'end': '988.240', 'text': 'Because the answer is indubitably,'}, {'start': '985.040', 'end': '991.199', 'text': "unless it's a safety issue. Always yes."}, {'start': '988.240', 'end': '993.759', 'text': 'Um, okay. I I like the feeling of making'}, {'start': '991.199', 'end': '995.440', 'text': 'the art as a group cuz at the end of the'}, {'start': '993.759', 'end': '997.279', 'text': "day, they're all on the stage and I'm up"}, {'start': '995.440', 'end': '998.639', 'text': 'in the back just watching the thing and'}, {'start': '997.279', 'end': '1000.639', 'text': "watching other people watch what we've"}, {'start': '998.639', 'end': '1004.800', 'text': 'done and making sure that they get it.'}, {'start': '1000.639', 'end': '1006.560', 'text': "Mhm. Um, but I also do perform, so it's"}, {'start': '1004.800', 'end': '1008.320', 'text': "kind of an interesting, it's like I"}, {'start': '1006.560', 'end': '1011.600', 'text': 'would like to give you what I would like'}, {'start': '1008.320', 'end': '1013.120', 'text': 'if I were in your show kind of a thing.'}, {'start': '1011.600', 'end': '1014.560', 'text': 'I I want there to be that safe'}, {'start': '1013.120', 'end': '1016.560', 'text': 'environment where people feel'}, {'start': '1014.560', 'end': '1018.720', 'text': 'comfortable experimenting with stuff and'}, {'start': '1016.560', 'end': '1023.120', 'text': 'playing with stuff and just having a'}, {'start': '1018.720', 'end': '1024.799', 'text': "really good time. Yeah. Yeah. And we're"}, {'start': '1023.120', 'end': '1026.319', 'text': "all volunteers. 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This isn't my"}, {'start': '1046.079', 'end': '1049.600', 'text': 'first show with her. This is your third.'}, {'start': '1047.760', 'end': '1051.520', 'text': 'Third, silly rabbit. It was supposed to'}, {'start': '1049.600', 'end': '1056.160', 'text': 'be my first as her ad, but you know,'}, {'start': '1051.520', 'end': '1057.760', 'text': 'things happen and uh she is she lets you'}, {'start': '1056.160', 'end': '1060.559', 'text': "develop the character and if she doesn't"}, {'start': '1057.760', 'end': '1063.600', 'text': "like it, she'll stop you. Um, she's open"}, {'start': '1060.559', 'end': '1067.840', 'text': "to your thoughts. She's, um, she's a lot"}, {'start': '1063.600', 'end': '1070.559', 'text': "of fun. And, uh, you're safe. That's key"}, {'start': '1067.840', 'end': '1073.360', 'text': "with me. We're safe with her. And I've"}, {'start': '1070.559', 'end': '1075.200', 'text': "been in shows where it hasn't been safe."}, {'start': '1073.360', 'end': '1079.280', 'text': 'And so, I never want to deal with that'}, {'start': '1075.200', 'end': '1081.280', 'text': "again. But she's great. Thanks."}, {'start': '1079.280', 'end': '1082.960', 'text': "Uh, I mean, it's good though that you"}, {'start': '1081.280', 'end': '1084.679', 'text': 'have such a collaborative approach'}, {'start': '1082.960', 'end': '1087.520', 'text': 'because it does make for a'}, {'start': '1084.679', 'end': '1088.799', 'text': 'more believable story. you know, if the'}, {'start': '1087.520', 'end': '1090.400', 'text': 'people are buying into it that are on'}, {'start': '1088.799', 'end': '1092.720', 'text': 'stage, the audience is also going to buy'}, {'start': '1090.400', 'end': '1095.919', 'text': "into that. And it's so important. I can"}, {'start': '1092.720', 'end': '1097.120', 'text': "tell when someone's faking it. 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Do you snuggle a'}, {'start': '1115.760', 'end': '1120.400', 'text': 'lot? and just kind of exploring those'}, {'start': '1117.880', 'end': '1122.400', 'text': 'things. Not specifically saying and here'}, {'start': '1120.400', 'end': '1124.799', 'text': 'you will touch their shoulder for 4.2'}, {'start': '1122.400', 'end': '1126.320', 'text': 'seconds. Just kind of creating that'}, {'start': '1124.799', 'end': '1129.280', 'text': 'environment where they can figure out'}, {'start': '1126.320', 'end': '1130.960', 'text': 'what that would look like for them. Um'}, {'start': '1129.280', 'end': '1132.320', 'text': 'cuz some people are real smoochy when'}, {'start': '1130.960', 'end': '1134.080', 'text': 'they leave the house or come back into'}, {'start': '1132.320', 'end': '1136.240', 'text': 'the house and some people are more huggy'}, {'start': '1134.080', 'end': '1137.840', 'text': 'and just kind of establishing those'}, {'start': '1136.240', 'end': '1139.440', 'text': 'boundaries for everyone and creating'}, {'start': '1137.840', 'end': '1144.360', 'text': 'those relationships so they do feel'}, {'start': '1139.440', 'end': '1147.039', 'text': 'natural um is always really important.'}, {'start': '1144.360', 'end': '1149.200', 'text': 'Absolutely. Um, so I saw I got to see'}, {'start': '1147.039', 'end': '1150.960', 'text': 'some of the pictures of the of the'}, {'start': '1149.200', 'end': '1154.240', 'text': 'castle already and stuff like that. 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It's kind of a joke for"}, {'start': '1174.000', 'end': '1176.559', 'text': 'me that every time someone says, "We'}, {'start': '1175.280', 'end': '1179.280', 'text': 'need to do promotional photos." I\'m'}, {'start': '1176.559', 'end': '1180.720', 'text': 'like, "I need one outfit per person. It'}, {'start': '1179.280', 'end': '1182.080', 'text': "doesn't have to actually make it on"}, {'start': '1180.720', 'end': '1184.320', 'text': 'stage, but we just need something that'}, {'start': '1182.080', 'end': '1186.400', 'text': 'looks good for pictures." Um, but they'}, {'start': '1184.320', 'end': '1189.679', 'text': 'nailed it. Um, and we got the'}, {'start': '1186.400', 'end': '1192.480', 'text': 'opportunity um to go shoot over at um'}, {'start': '1189.679', 'end': '1194.160', 'text': 'Leon and Lulu and Clawson. They opened'}, {'start': '1192.480', 'end': '1195.600', 'text': 'up their building to us. 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And Elite, I'll start with you."}, {'start': '1265.200', 'end': '1268.480', 'text': "How do you feel like it's challenged you"}, {'start': '1266.159', 'end': '1270.480', 'text': "as a director? It is. I I'm kind of out"}, {'start': '1268.480', 'end': '1273.760', 'text': 'there with my political views a lot. 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Yes.'}, {'start': '1352.480', 'end': '1356.240', 'text': 'We do we do a lot of a lot of resting'}, {'start': '1354.559', 'end': '1358.960', 'text': 'and a lot of recharging and we have a'}, {'start': '1356.240', 'end': '1360.400', 'text': 'lot of open communication. Um especially'}, {'start': '1358.960', 'end': '1363.919', 'text': "when I ask people to do stuff that's"}, {'start': '1360.400', 'end': '1365.919', 'text': 'really emotional. Um so I think that'}, {'start': '1363.919', 'end': '1367.679', 'text': 'part of it for me has been has been the'}, {'start': '1365.919', 'end': '1368.880', 'text': 'biggest challenge for sure. And Lisa,'}, {'start': '1367.679', 'end': '1371.360', 'text': 'how about for you? How has the perfect'}, {'start': '1368.880', 'end': '1373.360', 'text': 'arrangement challenged you? I think you'}, {'start': '1371.360', 'end': '1376.080', 'text': 'know Kitty as a whole has been a little'}, {'start': '1373.360', 'end': '1377.679', 'text': 'bit of a challenge just trying to you'}, {'start': '1376.080', 'end': '1379.200', 'text': 'know as I was listening to Lita I kept'}, {'start': '1377.679', 'end': '1381.600', 'text': "saying how's it challenged me? I just"}, {'start': '1379.200', 'end': '1385.360', 'text': 'want to be the best kitty I can is what'}, {'start': '1381.600', 'end': '1387.919', 'text': 'came through my head. 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I'm just"}, {'start': '1414.240', 'end': '1419.840', 'text': 'kitty who flies in and flies out and'}, {'start': '1415.919', 'end': '1421.919', 'text': 'acts ridiculous. But I just I want to'}, {'start': '1419.840', 'end': '1424.720', 'text': 'tell everyone about this show. I want us'}, {'start': '1421.919', 'end': '1426.799', 'text': 'to do the best we can so that people get'}, {'start': '1424.720', 'end': '1429.520', 'text': 'the message of this show and people walk'}, {'start': '1426.799', 'end': '1431.440', 'text': 'out saying, "Wow, that was great." and'}, {'start': '1429.520', 'end': '1434.960', 'text': "oh my god, that's kind of relevant to"}, {'start': '1431.440', 'end': '1436.640', 'text': "what's going on right now. And so, and"}, {'start': '1434.960', 'end': '1438.480', 'text': 'just getting to know new people in the'}, {'start': '1436.640', 'end': '1441.280', 'text': 'cast. 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Sure."}, {'start': '1475.039', 'end': '1482.400', 'text': "And we've got to like either teach them"}, {'start': '1479.679', 'end': '1485.200', 'text': 'and bring them into the real world or'}, {'start': '1482.400', 'end': '1488.640', 'text': "find a way that they can't make changes"}, {'start': '1485.200', 'end': '1490.240', 'text': 'that will destroy human lives. pretty'}, {'start': '1488.640', 'end': '1492.320', 'text': 'much'}, {'start': '1490.240', 'end': '1494.880', 'text': 'for sure. I mean, I think like you said'}, {'start': '1492.320', 'end': '1496.720', 'text': 'too about the relevance of this is the'}, {'start': '1494.880', 'end': '1498.640', 'text': "term lavender marriage I've heard"}, {'start': '1496.720', 'end': '1500.720', 'text': 'increasingly over, you know, the past'}, {'start': '1498.640', 'end': '1502.559', 'text': 'couple of months and this is something'}, {'start': '1500.720', 'end': '1505.279', 'text': "that we're coming back around to for"}, {'start': '1502.559', 'end': '1507.760', 'text': 'fear or for self-preservation. So, like'}, {'start': '1505.279', 'end': '1508.960', 'text': 'there is a huge relevance to that and'}, {'start': '1507.760', 'end': '1511.840', 'text': "there is a weight to that. 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I want'}, {'start': '1593.679', 'end': '1596.720', 'text': 'them to be having conversations on their'}, {'start': '1595.279', 'end': '1598.000', 'text': "way out the door. And even if there's a"}, {'start': '1596.720', 'end': '1601.760', 'text': "small amount of people who just don't"}, {'start': '1598.000', 'end': '1604.640', 'text': "get it or who don't agree with it. Um"}, {'start': '1601.760', 'end': '1606.720', 'text': "I'd be a 100 percent okay with being"}, {'start': '1604.640', 'end': '1608.159', 'text': 'stuck in their brain for a while. Yeah.'}, {'start': '1606.720', 'end': '1610.039', 'text': 'And making them have those difficult'}, {'start': '1608.159', 'end': '1612.799', 'text': 'conversations with, well, why'}, {'start': '1610.039', 'end': '1614.640', 'text': 'not? Why does this bother you? Why did'}, {'start': '1612.799', 'end': '1616.880', 'text': 'it upset you?'}, {'start': '1614.640', 'end': '1619.760', 'text': 'Um because I think a lot of times people'}, {'start': '1616.880', 'end': '1621.919', 'text': 'who are inherently opposed to things'}, {'start': '1619.760', 'end': '1625.200', 'text': "just haven't met them or been exposed to"}, {'start': '1621.919', 'end': '1627.600', 'text': 'them in a way. Sure.'}, {'start': '1625.200', 'end': '1629.279', 'text': 'that could open their mind a little bit.'}, {'start': '1627.600', 'end': '1632.159', 'text': "And even if they don't aren't fully on"}, {'start': '1629.279', 'end': '1633.080', 'text': 'board with the the whole thing, um if'}, {'start': '1632.159', 'end': '1636.080', 'text': 'they can at'}, {'start': '1633.080', 'end': '1637.159', 'text': 'least appreciate it for what it is and'}, {'start': '1636.080', 'end': '1639.279', 'text': 'identify'}, {'start': '1637.159', 'end': '1643.120', 'text': 'humanity instead of identifying'}, {'start': '1639.279', 'end': '1644.480', 'text': 'everything as other um I would be over'}, {'start': '1643.120', 'end': '1645.840', 'text': "the moon. And Lisa, I'm sorry you have"}, {'start': '1644.480', 'end': '1648.840', 'text': 'to you have to follow that perfect'}, {'start': '1645.840', 'end': '1648.840', 'text': 'answer.'}, {'start': '1651.559', 'end': '1657.600', 'text': "Well, sorry, not sorry. No, it's okay. I"}, {'start': '1655.039', 'end': '1659.840', 'text': 'hope people So, I was thinking when Lita'}, {'start': '1657.600', 'end': '1661.919', 'text': 'was talking, I listen and then I try to'}, {'start': '1659.840', 'end': '1664.559', 'text': "think about what I'm going to respond."}, {'start': '1661.919', 'end': '1667.760', 'text': 'You know, you see all these movies and'}, {'start': '1664.559', 'end': '1669.919', 'text': 'these television shows and books about'}, {'start': '1667.760', 'end': '1672.000', 'text': "history and it's based on history and"}, {'start': '1669.919', 'end': '1674.240', 'text': "it's oh, this show and it might be about"}, {'start': '1672.000', 'end': '1678.279', 'text': 'a movie star or it might be about a'}, {'start': '1674.240', 'end': '1681.279', 'text': 'different culture, you know, or war.'}, {'start': '1678.279', 'end': '1685.840', 'text': "Well, here's a play about history."}, {'start': '1681.279', 'end': '1688.960', 'text': "Here's a play about what people, you"}, {'start': '1685.840', 'end': '1690.559', 'text': 'know, who identify as in the LGBTQ plus'}, {'start': '1688.960', 'end': '1692.760', 'text': 'community. 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Um, so I want people to'}, {'start': '1708.799', 'end': '1713.760', 'text': 'have that same kind of response like,'}, {'start': '1711.399', 'end': '1716.880', 'text': '"Wow, people really went through this."'}, {'start': '1713.760', 'end': '1719.360', 'text': 'And then maybe a connection, whoa, this'}, {'start': '1716.880', 'end': '1721.200', 'text': "is what's going on right now. When we"}, {'start': '1719.360', 'end': '1723.960', 'text': "look politically, what's going on, what"}, {'start': '1721.200', 'end': '1728.399', 'text': 'is coming out of'}, {'start': '1723.960', 'end': '1732.159', 'text': 'educated adult mouths about people who'}, {'start': '1728.399', 'end': '1734.000', 'text': "don't identify as hetero and and and how"}, {'start': '1732.159', 'end': '1738.480', 'text': 'they feel about that. And I hope people'}, {'start': '1734.000', 'end': '1742.480', 'text': 'walk away with compassion and empathy.'}, {'start': '1738.480', 'end': '1744.240', 'text': 'And I hope light bulbs go off. And I'}, {'start': '1742.480', 'end': '1746.480', 'text': 'want them to say like, "I\'ve never seen'}, {'start': '1744.240', 'end': '1749.600', 'text': 'this before, but wow, that was a'}, {'start': '1746.480', 'end': '1752.399', 'text': 'beautiful story." Because beauty doesn\'t'}, {'start': '1749.600', 'end': '1755.760', 'text': 'have to be a happy ending. Beauty can'}, {'start': '1752.399', 'end': '1757.679', 'text': 'be, "It got me here." Right? So, I want'}, {'start': '1755.760', 'end': '1759.440', 'text': 'people to walk out of here going, you'}, {'start': '1757.679', 'end': '1762.840', 'text': 'know, and just think about it. That'}, {'start': '1759.440', 'end': '1766.080', 'text': "really happened. and we aren't"}, {'start': '1762.840', 'end': '1769.279', 'text': "careful, could it happen again? So, I'm"}, {'start': '1766.080', 'end': '1770.880', 'text': 'hoping not. So, but I just I want people'}, {'start': '1769.279', 'end': '1773.840', 'text': 'that can walk away with empathy and'}, {'start': '1770.880', 'end': '1776.080', 'text': 'compassion and love and the aha moment.'}, {'start': '1773.840', 'end': '1777.360', 'text': "Perfect. That's two beautiful answers. I"}, {'start': '1776.080', 'end': '1778.640', 'text': 'appreciate it so much and I appreciate'}, {'start': '1777.360', 'end': '1782.159', 'text': 'both of you for being here today with'}, {'start': '1778.640', 'end': '1783.600', 'text': 'me. Thank you so much. Absolutely. A'}, {'start': '1782.159', 'end': '1785.440', 'text': 'perfect arrangement arrives at Stage'}, {'start': '1783.600', 'end': '1786.559', 'text': 'Cfter Second Stage May 2nd and runs'}, {'start': '1785.440', 'end': '1789.279', 'text': 'through the 11th. So get your tickets'}, {'start': '1786.559', 'end': '1789.279', 'text': "now and we'll see you"}]