Judge rules Trump can't use Alien Enemies Act to deport Venezuelan migrants in southern Texas
CBS News
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The Thursday ruling from'}, {'start': '12.719', 'end': '16.560', 'text': 'Trump appointed US District Judge'}, {'start': '14.240', 'end': '18.800', 'text': 'Fernando Rodriguez Jr. permanently'}, {'start': '16.560', 'end': '20.640', 'text': 'blocks the government from detaining,'}, {'start': '18.800', 'end': '23.119', 'text': 'transferring, and removing Venezuelan'}, {'start': '20.640', 'end': '24.880', 'text': 'migrants ages 14 and up at that specific'}, {'start': '23.119', 'end': '26.640', 'text': 'facility. The Trump administration'}, {'start': '24.880', 'end': '28.320', 'text': 'invoked the Alien Enemies Act in March'}, {'start': '26.640', 'end': '30.560', 'text': 'to deport people it says are part of the'}, {'start': '28.320', 'end': '32.160', 'text': 'Venezuelan Gang Trende Aaragua, but the'}, {'start': '30.560', 'end': '34.559', 'text': 'judge clarified the order does not'}, {'start': '32.160', 'end': '36.160', 'text': 'prevent the administration from pursuing'}, {'start': '34.559', 'end': '39.360', 'text': 'removal proceedings under the'}, {'start': '36.160', 'end': '40.719', 'text': 'Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952.'}, {'start': '39.360', 'end': '42.800', 'text': "I know we're throwing a lot of laws at"}, {'start': '40.719', 'end': '44.320', 'text': 'you. This is the law that has a'}, {'start': '42.800', 'end': '46.559', 'text': 'provision that allows deportations of'}, {'start': '44.320', 'end': '48.399', 'text': 'non-citizens deemed a threat to US'}, {'start': '46.559', 'end': '49.840', 'text': 'foreign policy interests. So for more,'}, {'start': '48.399', 'end': '51.120', 'text': "let's bring in CBS News Justice"}, {'start': '49.840', 'end': '52.800', 'text': 'Department correspondent Scott'}, {'start': '51.120', 'end': '54.480', 'text': 'McFarland. Scott, I never thought I'}, {'start': '52.800', 'end': '56.320', 'text': 'would be as well versed in the Alien'}, {'start': '54.480', 'end': '58.000', 'text': 'Enemies Act as I am now. But I want to'}, {'start': '56.320', 'end': '59.680', 'text': 'read something the judge wrote. The'}, {'start': '58.000', 'end': '61.840', 'text': "court concludes the president's"}, {'start': '59.680', 'end': '63.920', 'text': 'invocation of the Alien Enemies Act'}, {'start': '61.840', 'end': '66.560', 'text': 'through the proclamation exceeds the'}, {'start': '63.920', 'end': '68.560', 'text': 'scope of the statute and as a result is'}, {'start': '66.560', 'end': '70.560', 'text': 'unlawful. How did he get there? And does'}, {'start': '68.560', 'end': '72.799', 'text': 'this mean anything for other districts'}, {'start': '70.560', 'end': '74.640', 'text': 'in which this issue will be argued? This'}, {'start': '72.799', 'end': '75.920', 'text': 'is being championed by critics of the'}, {'start': '74.640', 'end': '78.320', 'text': "administration and those who've been"}, {'start': '75.920', 'end': '80.640', 'text': 'representing wouldbe deportees in cities'}, {'start': '78.320', 'end': '83.040', 'text': 'across the country. The judge says in'}, {'start': '80.640', 'end': '85.439', 'text': 'this 36-page ruling, Lindsay, is that'}, {'start': '83.040', 'end': '87.040', 'text': 'the administration has overreached, that'}, {'start': '85.439', 'end': '89.200', 'text': "there's been no demonstration, there's"}, {'start': '87.040', 'end': '94.240', 'text': 'an invasion of America, that this is a'}, {'start': '89.200', 'end': '97.280', 'text': 'wartime as was drafted in 1798 when this'}, {'start': '94.240', 'end': '99.840', 'text': '18th century wartime emergency power was'}, {'start': '97.280', 'end': '102.000', 'text': 'first implemented. That being said, the'}, {'start': '99.840', 'end': '104.880', 'text': 'judge also added that critical component'}, {'start': '102.000', 'end': '106.640', 'text': 'you referenced that he believes and he'}, {'start': '104.880', 'end': '109.200', 'text': 'puts in his order, the administration'}, {'start': '106.640', 'end': '110.479', 'text': 'can still deport people through the'}, {'start': '109.200', 'end': '112.479', 'text': 'traditional means, through the'}, {'start': '110.479', 'end': '114.000', 'text': 'traditional powers used for deportation.'}, {'start': '112.479', 'end': '116.079', 'text': 'And Judge Rodriguez in saying that,'}, {'start': '114.000', 'end': '117.360', 'text': 'Lindsay, echoes what other federal'}, {'start': '116.079', 'end': '119.360', 'text': "judges have said as they've looked at"}, {'start': '117.360', 'end': '121.280', 'text': 'these cases. the chief judge here in'}, {'start': '119.360', 'end': '123.920', 'text': 'Washington DC, the one who had ordered'}, {'start': '121.280', 'end': '125.680', 'text': 'those planes turned around on March 15th'}, {'start': '123.920', 'end': '128.879', 'text': 'with that first wave of Alien Enemies'}, {'start': '125.680', 'end': '131.599', 'text': 'Act deportations. He also said his order'}, {'start': '128.879', 'end': '133.520', 'text': "wasn't to free the people who are being"}, {'start': '131.599', 'end': '136.319', 'text': 'deported, but that the government should'}, {'start': '133.520', 'end': '139.040', 'text': 'use the traditional means under the law'}, {'start': '136.319', 'end': '141.440', 'text': 'that this does not necessarily rise to'}, {'start': '139.040', 'end': '144.800', 'text': 'the level of a wartime in which the'}, {'start': '141.440', 'end': '147.840', 'text': 'Alien Enemies Act allows non due process'}, {'start': '144.800', 'end': '149.440', 'text': 'deportations. During a press briefing on'}, {'start': '147.840', 'end': '150.959', 'text': 'Thursday, CBS News senior White House'}, {'start': '149.440', 'end': '152.480', 'text': 'correspondent Ouija Jen, asked White'}, {'start': '150.959', 'end': '154.080', 'text': 'House Deputy Chief of Staff, Steven'}, {'start': '152.480', 'end': '155.519', 'text': 'Miller, really one of the architects of'}, {'start': '154.080', 'end': '158.160', 'text': "the Trump administration's immigration"}, {'start': '155.519', 'end': '159.599', 'text': 'policies about Kilargo Garcia, the man'}, {'start': '158.160', 'end': '161.440', 'text': 'who was mistakenly deported to El'}, {'start': '159.599', 'end': '164.239', 'text': "Salvador in March. Here's some of what"}, {'start': '161.440', 'end': '167.440', 'text': 'he said. This administration is not'}, {'start': '164.239', 'end': '169.200', 'text': 'going to publicly discuss the inside'}, {'start': '167.440', 'end': '172.160', 'text': 'details of our foreign policy and'}, {'start': '169.200', 'end': '174.000', 'text': 'negotiations with a foreign country. and'}, {'start': '172.160', 'end': '176.640', 'text': 'in particular, we are not going to allow'}, {'start': '174.000', 'end': '179.040', 'text': 'a district court judge to try to become'}, {'start': '176.640', 'end': '180.640', 'text': 'the Secretary of State. This is an issue'}, {'start': '179.040', 'end': '182.000', 'text': 'that you have been watching closely and'}, {'start': '180.640', 'end': '183.840', 'text': "speaking with experts on whether we're"}, {'start': '182.000', 'end': '185.440', 'text': 'on the brink of a constitutional crisis,'}, {'start': '183.840', 'end': '186.640', 'text': 'but here we have Miller essentially'}, {'start': '185.440', 'end': '188.720', 'text': "saying that he's not going to let some"}, {'start': '186.640', 'end': '191.120', 'text': 'judge enact foreign policy. How would'}, {'start': '188.720', 'end': '194.480', 'text': "you characterize the administration's uh"}, {'start': '191.120', 'end': '196.319', 'text': 'posture? We know also that this judge uh'}, {'start': '194.480', 'end': '197.920', 'text': 'in Maryland is refusing to give the'}, {'start': '196.319', 'end': '199.519', 'text': 'Trump administration any more extensions'}, {'start': '197.920', 'end': '201.680', 'text': 'to turn over information on Arrigo'}, {'start': '199.519', 'end': '203.120', 'text': 'Garcia. Couple particularly important'}, {'start': '201.680', 'end': '204.720', 'text': 'things there, Lindsay. First of all, I'}, {'start': '203.120', 'end': '206.400', 'text': 'suspect the critics of the'}, {'start': '204.720', 'end': '207.840', 'text': 'administration may be printing out what'}, {'start': '206.400', 'end': '210.080', 'text': 'Steven Miller said today and putting a'}, {'start': '207.840', 'end': '213.440', 'text': 'highlighter over the phrase, "We will'}, {'start': '210.080', 'end': '215.680', 'text': 'not allow the courts to do something."'}, {'start': '213.440', 'end': '217.440', 'text': "That's the type of constraint between"}, {'start': '215.680', 'end': '220.159', 'text': 'executive branch and judicial branch.'}, {'start': '217.440', 'end': '221.920', 'text': 'The type of face off that people find'}, {'start': '220.159', 'end': '223.599', 'text': 'destabilizing, potentially troubling'}, {'start': '221.920', 'end': '225.440', 'text': "when the executive branch says it's"}, {'start': '223.599', 'end': '227.200', 'text': 'going to stop the judicial branch from'}, {'start': '225.440', 'end': '228.879', 'text': "doing certain things. Let's put that"}, {'start': '227.200', 'end': '230.720', 'text': 'aside for a moment. The other issue is'}, {'start': '228.879', 'end': '232.000', 'text': 'this. Steven Miller argued unequivocally'}, {'start': '230.720', 'end': '233.920', 'text': 'today that he believes the'}, {'start': '232.000', 'end': '236.959', 'text': 'administration believes Abrao Garcia is'}, {'start': '233.920', 'end': '238.400', 'text': "an MS-13 violent gang member. There's a"}, {'start': '236.959', 'end': '240.000', 'text': 'bit of a delta there between what'}, {'start': '238.400', 'end': '241.439', 'text': "they're saying from the podiums and at"}, {'start': '240.000', 'end': '243.040', 'text': "press conferences and what they're"}, {'start': '241.439', 'end': '244.640', 'text': 'arguing in court under the pain of'}, {'start': '243.040', 'end': '246.720', 'text': 'perjury. The judge has ordered'}, {'start': '244.640', 'end': '249.280', 'text': 'information from the administration'}, {'start': '246.720', 'end': '251.040', 'text': 'about why Abrego Garcia was deported'}, {'start': '249.280', 'end': '253.120', 'text': 'that way, why he has not been returned'}, {'start': '251.040', 'end': '254.799', 'text': 'as initially ordered by the judge, what'}, {'start': '253.120', 'end': '257.359', 'text': 'his condition is there, and those'}, {'start': '254.799', 'end': '258.799', 'text': 'answers have not been forthcoming. The'}, {'start': '257.359', 'end': '260.320', 'text': 'judge pushed those deadlines, as you'}, {'start': '258.799', 'end': '262.800', 'text': "mentioned, to next week, but she'd like"}, {'start': '260.320', 'end': '265.280', 'text': 'to hear this type of information from an'}, {'start': '262.800', 'end': '268.479', 'text': 'attorney in court, not necessarily from'}, {'start': '265.280', 'end': '270.400', 'text': 'somebody at a podium in a press room.'}, {'start': '268.479', 'end': '272.400', 'text': "The Department of Homeland Security's"}, {'start': '270.400', 'end': '273.840', 'text': 'got us confirmed Thursday that Chris'}, {'start': '272.400', 'end': '275.840', 'text': 'Krebs, the former head of the Cyber'}, {'start': '273.840', 'end': '278.880', 'text': 'Security and Infrastructure Security'}, {'start': '275.840', 'end': '282.080', 'text': 'Agency or CISA, has had his Global Entry'}, {'start': '278.880', 'end': '284.080', 'text': 'Traveler membership revoked. Krebs is a'}, {'start': '282.080', 'end': '285.600', 'text': 'CBS News cyber security analyst. What'}, {'start': '284.080', 'end': '287.759', 'text': 'more can you tell us about this? you'}, {'start': '285.600', 'end': '289.440', 'text': 'have your global entry taken away. It'}, {'start': '287.759', 'end': '290.880', 'text': 'makes it more difficult to travel'}, {'start': '289.440', 'end': '292.400', 'text': 'internationally and for certain people'}, {'start': '290.880', 'end': '294.040', 'text': 'in certain businesses makes it more'}, {'start': '292.400', 'end': '296.160', 'text': 'difficult to do business or be'}, {'start': '294.040', 'end': '297.759', 'text': 'employable. What the Homeland Security'}, {'start': '296.160', 'end': '300.639', 'text': "Department said, Lindsay, is that it's"}, {'start': '297.759', 'end': '302.960', 'text': 'been retracted from Chris Krebs. This'}, {'start': '300.639', 'end': '305.360', 'text': 'global entry program because of a'}, {'start': '302.960', 'end': '306.919', 'text': 'potential, if not ongoing, law'}, {'start': '305.360', 'end': '308.880', 'text': 'enforcement'}, {'start': '306.919', 'end': '310.639', 'text': "investigation doesn't go into more"}, {'start': '308.880', 'end': '312.800', 'text': 'detail. We do know from Department of'}, {'start': '310.639', 'end': '314.560', 'text': "Homeland Security records somebody who's"}, {'start': '312.800', 'end': '316.800', 'text': 'subject to an law enforcement'}, {'start': '314.560', 'end': '318.320', 'text': 'investigation can be removed from Global'}, {'start': '316.800', 'end': '320.320', 'text': "Entry. But there's a bigger issue here,"}, {'start': '318.320', 'end': '322.639', 'text': "Lindsay, than just Chris Krebs. There's"}, {'start': '320.320', 'end': '324.479', 'text': 'concern here that by taking action'}, {'start': '322.639', 'end': '326.479', 'text': 'against somebody the president perceives'}, {'start': '324.479', 'end': '328.639', 'text': 'as an enemy, somebody who stood up and'}, {'start': '326.479', 'end': '330.800', 'text': 'said the 2020 election was fair, was'}, {'start': '328.639', 'end': '332.720', 'text': "legitimate, wasn't fraudulent, that if"}, {'start': '330.800', 'end': '334.560', 'text': 'you could chill a perceived enemy by'}, {'start': '332.720', 'end': '336.479', 'text': 'doing something like this, you chill'}, {'start': '334.560', 'end': '339.039', 'text': 'other people from speaking out or'}, {'start': '336.479', 'end': '341.520', 'text': 'criticizing your administration. Scott'}, {'start': '339.039', 'end': '341.520', 'text': 'McFarland.'}]