What's behind Trump's plan to move Mike Waltz within the administration?
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[{'start': '0.320', 'end': '3.360', 'text': 'Hello and thank you for joining us. A'}, {'start': '1.760', 'end': '5.279', 'text': 'major shakeup is happening in the Trump'}, {'start': '3.360', 'end': '7.120', 'text': "White House. President Trump's National"}, {'start': '5.279', 'end': '9.200', 'text': 'Security Adviser Mike Waltz and his top'}, {'start': '7.120', 'end': '11.759', 'text': 'deputy at the National Security Council'}, {'start': '9.200', 'end': '13.759', 'text': 'are leaving their posts. However, Waltz,'}, {'start': '11.759', 'end': '15.800', 'text': 'a former congressman and retired Army'}, {'start': '13.759', 'end': '17.840', 'text': "Green Beret, isn't out of the"}, {'start': '15.800', 'end': '20.000', 'text': 'administration. President Trump posted'}, {'start': '17.840', 'end': '21.840', 'text': 'on Truth Social Thursday, writing in'}, {'start': '20.000', 'end': '24.400', 'text': 'part, quote, "I am pleased to announce'}, {'start': '21.840', 'end': '26.480', 'text': 'that I will be nominating Mike Waltz to'}, {'start': '24.400', 'end': '28.560', 'text': 'be the next United States ambassador to'}, {'start': '26.480', 'end': '29.920', 'text': 'the United Nations." He added, "Mike'}, {'start': '28.560', 'end': '31.760', 'text': 'Wallace has worked hard to put our'}, {'start': '29.920', 'end': '34.239', 'text': "nation's interests first. I know he will"}, {'start': '31.760', 'end': '36.000', 'text': 'do the same in this new role." The'}, {'start': '34.239', 'end': '38.160', 'text': 'president also announced Secretary of'}, {'start': '36.000', 'end': '40.640', 'text': 'State Marco Rubio will take over as the'}, {'start': '38.160', 'end': '42.320', 'text': 'interim national security adviser in'}, {'start': '40.640', 'end': '43.920', 'text': 'addition to his role at the State'}, {'start': '42.320', 'end': '46.399', 'text': 'Department. Just a couple of his many'}, {'start': '43.920', 'end': '48.079', 'text': "hats. We'll explain. Waltz's departure"}, {'start': '46.399', 'end': '49.840', 'text': 'comes about 6 weeks after it was'}, {'start': '48.079', 'end': '52.399', 'text': 'revealed he mistakenly included a'}, {'start': '49.840', 'end': '54.640', 'text': 'journalist on a signal group chat with'}, {'start': '52.399', 'end': '57.120', 'text': 'other top officials discussing military'}, {'start': '54.640', 'end': '59.039', 'text': 'strikes in Yemen. We have team coverage'}, {'start': '57.120', 'end': '61.440', 'text': 'on this story. CBS News chief White'}, {'start': '59.039', 'end': '63.120', 'text': 'House correspondent Nancy Cordez and CBS'}, {'start': '61.440', 'end': '65.439', 'text': 'News senior national security'}, {'start': '63.120', 'end': '67.119', 'text': 'correspondent Charlie Dagoda are with'}, {'start': '65.439', 'end': '69.280', 'text': "us. Let's start with Nancy Cordez"}, {'start': '67.119', 'end': '70.880', 'text': 'following the president in Tuscaloosa,'}, {'start': '69.280', 'end': '72.400', 'text': 'Alabama where he is speaking at the'}, {'start': '70.880', 'end': '74.240', 'text': "University of Alabama's commencement"}, {'start': '72.400', 'end': '76.240', 'text': 'ceremony. Nancy, what are you hearing'}, {'start': '74.240', 'end': '78.240', 'text': 'about why Walt is out as national'}, {'start': '76.240', 'end': '80.880', 'text': 'security adviser and in for UN'}, {'start': '78.240', 'end': '82.159', 'text': 'ambassador?'}, {'start': '80.880', 'end': '84.080', 'text': 'I think there are a few reasons,'}, {'start': '82.159', 'end': '87.119', 'text': 'Lindsay. First of all, there was that'}, {'start': '84.080', 'end': '89.040', 'text': 'signal gate controversy about six weeks'}, {'start': '87.119', 'end': '91.200', 'text': 'ago. Was embarrassing for the White'}, {'start': '89.040', 'end': '93.280', 'text': 'House, embarrassing for the president.'}, {'start': '91.200', 'end': '96.000', 'text': 'Um the president kept insisting that it'}, {'start': '93.280', 'end': '98.960', 'text': 'was no big deal, but clearly it wrankled'}, {'start': '96.000', 'end': '102.560', 'text': 'him and some of his top advisers, the'}, {'start': '98.960', 'end': '105.680', 'text': 'use of Signal, this encrypted app, uh to'}, {'start': '102.560', 'end': '109.520', 'text': 'share very sensitive information about a'}, {'start': '105.680', 'end': '111.280', 'text': 'drone strike. and uh the editor-inchief'}, {'start': '109.520', 'end': '113.920', 'text': 'of the Atlantic magazine was'}, {'start': '111.280', 'end': '116.320', 'text': 'accidentally added to that chat. So that'}, {'start': '113.920', 'end': '119.920', 'text': 'was strike number one. Uh but a bigger'}, {'start': '116.320', 'end': '121.759', 'text': 'problem for Mike Waltz may have been'}, {'start': '119.920', 'end': '124.399', 'text': 'that uh he had a very powerful enemy'}, {'start': '121.759', 'end': '127.040', 'text': 'which was Laura Loomer who is not a part'}, {'start': '124.399', 'end': '130.239', 'text': 'of this administration. She is a'}, {'start': '127.040', 'end': '132.560', 'text': 'conservative activist um a conspiracy'}, {'start': '130.239', 'end': '134.879', 'text': 'theorist who has the ear of the'}, {'start': '132.560', 'end': '136.200', 'text': 'president and had been making the case'}, {'start': '134.879', 'end': '140.080', 'text': 'to him that there were certain'}, {'start': '136.200', 'end': '142.080', 'text': 'individuals within the national security'}, {'start': '140.080', 'end': '144.800', 'text': "community in particular that she didn't"}, {'start': '142.080', 'end': '146.599', 'text': 'feel were sufficiently loyal to'}, {'start': '144.800', 'end': '149.920', 'text': 'President Trump. And one of those'}, {'start': '146.599', 'end': '151.920', 'text': 'individuals was Mike Waltz, who in the'}, {'start': '149.920', 'end': '153.599', 'text': 'past had said things that were critical'}, {'start': '151.920', 'end': '155.760', 'text': 'of the president, but that was known to'}, {'start': '153.599', 'end': '158.640', 'text': 'President Trump when he named him to be'}, {'start': '155.760', 'end': '161.360', 'text': 'national security advisor. And today'}, {'start': '158.640', 'end': '164.080', 'text': 'when it was announced that uh Waltz'}, {'start': '161.360', 'end': '168.080', 'text': 'would indeed be moving on, Laura Loomer'}, {'start': '164.080', 'end': '171.519', 'text': 'posted on X Scalp. In other words, she'}, {'start': '168.080', 'end': '173.120', 'text': 'believed that she had had a big part in'}, {'start': '171.519', 'end': '175.120', 'text': 'bringing about his downfall as the'}, {'start': '173.120', 'end': '177.280', 'text': "national security adviser. Hm. We'll"}, {'start': '175.120', 'end': '179.599', 'text': 'talk about Rubio taking over in the'}, {'start': '177.280', 'end': '183.160', 'text': 'interim, but any names on who could'}, {'start': '179.599', 'end': '183.160', 'text': 'replace him permanently?'}, {'start': '183.200', 'end': '187.599', 'text': 'There are a lot of names that have been'}, {'start': '184.480', 'end': '190.159', 'text': 'floated today. Uh but for various'}, {'start': '187.599', 'end': '191.519', 'text': "reasons, uh it's unclear who exactly"}, {'start': '190.159', 'end': '193.760', 'text': 'would be tapped at the end of the day'}, {'start': '191.519', 'end': '195.120', 'text': 'for this role. For example, one of the'}, {'start': '193.760', 'end': '197.840', 'text': 'names that have been floated is Steve'}, {'start': '195.120', 'end': '199.440', 'text': "Whitoff, the real estate investor who's"}, {'start': '197.840', 'end': '201.680', 'text': "a close friend of the presidents who's"}, {'start': '199.440', 'end': '204.319', 'text': 'been jetting all over the world working'}, {'start': '201.680', 'end': '206.159', 'text': 'on various negotiations for this White'}, {'start': '204.319', 'end': '208.800', 'text': "House. We've been told he's not"}, {'start': '206.159', 'end': '210.799', 'text': 'necessarily interested in a job like'}, {'start': '208.800', 'end': '212.400', 'text': 'this, which is very different. Uh this'}, {'start': '210.799', 'end': '215.200', 'text': 'is someone who is at the White House day'}, {'start': '212.400', 'end': '217.680', 'text': 'in and day out collating the best advice'}, {'start': '215.200', 'end': '220.159', 'text': 'from across the national security'}, {'start': '217.680', 'end': '222.319', 'text': 'apparatus in this administration and'}, {'start': '220.159', 'end': '224.799', 'text': 'providing that advice to President Trump'}, {'start': '222.319', 'end': '226.959', 'text': 'so that he can make decisions. So a very'}, {'start': '224.799', 'end': '229.440', 'text': "different job and in the meantime it's"}, {'start': '226.959', 'end': '231.519', 'text': 'going to be a job that is held by Marco'}, {'start': '229.440', 'end': '234.480', 'text': 'Rubio who already had a pretty big day'}, {'start': '231.519', 'end': '236.000', 'text': 'job as Secretary of State and he has'}, {'start': '234.480', 'end': '238.879', 'text': 'some other day jobs too. Can you'}, {'start': '236.000', 'end': '241.840', 'text': 'elaborate on that for us?'}, {'start': '238.879', 'end': '242.879', 'text': 'Sure. He is also the archavist. Uh in'}, {'start': '241.840', 'end': '245.200', 'text': 'other words, he is the head of the'}, {'start': '242.879', 'end': '246.959', 'text': 'national archives. That was a job that'}, {'start': '245.200', 'end': '249.519', 'text': 'President Trump uh put on his plate'}, {'start': '246.959', 'end': '252.040', 'text': "early on. You'll recall that when much"}, {'start': '249.519', 'end': '255.840', 'text': 'of USAID, the development agency was'}, {'start': '252.040', 'end': '258.880', 'text': 'dismantled, that too was placed uh under'}, {'start': '255.840', 'end': '261.600', 'text': "uh Rubio's uh profile. It's become part"}, {'start': '258.880', 'end': '263.520', 'text': 'of the State Department. And part of the'}, {'start': '261.600', 'end': '266.080', 'text': "reason that Rubio's getting loaded up"}, {'start': '263.520', 'end': '267.840', 'text': 'with these jobs is that uh President'}, {'start': '266.080', 'end': '270.000', 'text': 'Trump feels comfortable with him. He'}, {'start': '267.840', 'end': '271.520', 'text': 'trusts him. In fact, today in the Rose'}, {'start': '270.000', 'end': '274.320', 'text': 'Garden, President Trump said, "When I'}, {'start': '271.520', 'end': '276.479', 'text': 'have a problem, I just call Marco." Uh,'}, {'start': '274.320', 'end': '279.759', 'text': 'so clearly he is someone the president'}, {'start': '276.479', 'end': '281.600', 'text': 'feels very comfortable with. And it is'}, {'start': '279.759', 'end': '284.479', 'text': "interesting that it's Wickoff who's been"}, {'start': '281.600', 'end': '286.160', 'text': 'traveling around being involved in these'}, {'start': '284.479', 'end': '288.080', 'text': "negotiations. Rubio's been on some of"}, {'start': '286.160', 'end': '290.479', 'text': "those trips, but for the most part, he's"}, {'start': '288.080', 'end': '292.479', 'text': "been back here in Washington DC. So he's"}, {'start': '290.479', 'end': '294.000', 'text': 'in close proximity to the president and'}, {'start': '292.479', 'end': '296.720', 'text': "he'll have to be even even closer"}, {'start': '294.000', 'end': '298.160', 'text': 'proximity now that he is not only the'}, {'start': '296.720', 'end': '300.240', 'text': 'secretary of state but the national'}, {'start': '298.160', 'end': '303.360', 'text': 'security adviser at least for some'}, {'start': '300.240', 'end': '304.960', 'text': 'period of time. Nancy Cortez, thank you.'}, {'start': '303.360', 'end': '306.560', 'text': 'CBS News senior national security'}, {'start': '304.960', 'end': '308.160', 'text': 'correspondent Charlie Dagetta joins us'}, {'start': '306.560', 'end': '310.160', 'text': 'now. So Charlie, with Waltz out as'}, {'start': '308.160', 'end': '312.000', 'text': 'national security adviser, does this'}, {'start': '310.160', 'end': '314.160', 'text': 'hamper progress in any of the talks he'}, {'start': '312.000', 'end': '316.400', 'text': 'was involved in, be it Ukraine or Middle'}, {'start': '314.160', 'end': '317.600', 'text': 'East, or because Secretary Rubio was'}, {'start': '316.400', 'end': '319.680', 'text': 'already Secretary of State, that will'}, {'start': '317.600', 'end': '321.759', 'text': 'help in the transition? Yeah, you know,'}, {'start': '319.680', 'end': '323.520', 'text': "it's going to complicate things uh in"}, {'start': '321.759', 'end': '324.880', 'text': 'the short term because we might regard'}, {'start': '323.520', 'end': '326.240', 'text': 'some of these titles as sort of'}, {'start': '324.880', 'end': '327.600', 'text': "interchangeable, right? And there's"}, {'start': '326.240', 'end': '329.520', 'text': 'obviously some overlap of these'}, {'start': '327.600', 'end': '331.360', 'text': 'departments. But as Nancy pointed out,'}, {'start': '329.520', 'end': '333.440', 'text': 'the role of national security adviser is'}, {'start': '331.360', 'end': '335.680', 'text': 'to advise the president, working with'}, {'start': '333.440', 'end': '338.160', 'text': 'the secretary of the state, Secretary of'}, {'start': '335.680', 'end': '340.320', 'text': 'Defense, intelligence communities, etc.,'}, {'start': '338.160', 'end': '342.240', 'text': 'and then provide the president with'}, {'start': '340.320', 'end': '345.039', 'text': 'options. Now, Waltz obviously played a'}, {'start': '342.240', 'end': '346.400', 'text': 'key role in negotiations uh in Ukraine.'}, {'start': '345.039', 'end': '348.080', 'text': "You know, there's a lot going on. He was"}, {'start': '346.400', 'end': '350.240', 'text': 'there at the Vatican when uh President'}, {'start': '348.080', 'end': '352.560', 'text': "Trump met with Zilinski. He's not a"}, {'start': '350.240', 'end': '354.639', 'text': 'hugely popular figure in Ukraine because'}, {'start': '352.560', 'end': '356.240', 'text': "he's been critical of uh the president"}, {'start': '354.639', 'end': '358.240', 'text': 'and the government. At the same time,'}, {'start': '356.240', 'end': '360.960', 'text': "he's been very bullish about cranking up"}, {'start': '358.240', 'end': '362.479', 'text': 'sanctions against uh Russia if Putin'}, {'start': '360.960', 'end': '365.520', 'text': "didn't come to some sort of a compromise"}, {'start': '362.479', 'end': '366.960', 'text': 'in negotiations. Um but you bring up a'}, {'start': '365.520', 'end': '369.600', 'text': 'very important point. You know, the'}, {'start': '366.960', 'end': '371.680', 'text': 'United States is involved in several'}, {'start': '369.600', 'end': '375.199', 'text': 'foreign policy challenges. You got'}, {'start': '371.680', 'end': '379.039', 'text': "Ukraine, NATO, Israel, Gaza. Let's not"}, {'start': '375.199', 'end': '381.120', 'text': 'forget Iran or China on the horizon. Um'}, {'start': '379.039', 'end': '383.600', 'text': 'we know as Nancy pointed out uh Middle'}, {'start': '381.120', 'end': '385.120', 'text': 'East envoy uh Steven Whitov has kind of'}, {'start': '383.600', 'end': '386.960', 'text': 'taken a lead role in the Ukraine'}, {'start': '385.120', 'end': '388.560', 'text': 'conflict. That was never part of his'}, {'start': '386.960', 'end': '390.880', 'text': 'initial role. He was supposed to be down'}, {'start': '388.560', 'end': '393.360', 'text': 'in the Middle East. Um but he has met'}, {'start': '390.880', 'end': '395.840', 'text': 'with Putin. So his role might become'}, {'start': '393.360', 'end': '397.840', 'text': 'more pivotal. Um but as Nancy said'}, {'start': '395.840', 'end': '399.919', 'text': 'reportedly not interested in the role of'}, {'start': '397.840', 'end': '401.840', 'text': 'taking on national security adviser and'}, {'start': '399.919', 'end': '404.400', 'text': "plus of course he's got work to do in"}, {'start': '401.840', 'end': '406.720', 'text': 'the field. So there there are questions'}, {'start': '404.400', 'end': '409.120', 'text': 'about uh where this leaves uh Secretary'}, {'start': '406.720', 'end': '412.240', 'text': 'of Defense Pete Hegth, who many see as'}, {'start': '409.120', 'end': '415.199', 'text': 'the real culprit of Heg uh excuse me of'}, {'start': '412.240', 'end': '417.120', 'text': 'Signal Gate because although Waltz had'}, {'start': '415.199', 'end': '419.919', 'text': 'opened up that channel, it was Hegath'}, {'start': '417.120', 'end': '422.080', 'text': 'who shared sensitive if not classified'}, {'start': '419.919', 'end': '424.240', 'text': 'information. But this is seen as a sort'}, {'start': '422.080', 'end': '427.120', 'text': 'of stay of execution because there you'}, {'start': '424.240', 'end': '429.199', 'text': "don't want to uh dismiss two key figures"}, {'start': '427.120', 'end': '430.880', 'text': 'at this critical moment. All right, so'}, {'start': '429.199', 'end': '433.440', 'text': "let's go ahead and talk about this joint"}, {'start': '430.880', 'end': '435.680', 'text': 'economic investment deal with Ukraine.'}, {'start': '433.440', 'end': '437.280', 'text': 'Uh what are we learning about it and'}, {'start': '435.680', 'end': '440.880', 'text': 'whether it could impact any kind of'}, {'start': '437.280', 'end': '443.360', 'text': "talks with Russia? Yeah, you know, it's"}, {'start': '440.880', 'end': '444.880', 'text': "probably adjacent to talks because it's"}, {'start': '443.360', 'end': '446.479', 'text': 'critical to point out this is not a'}, {'start': '444.880', 'end': '448.080', 'text': "peace deal. It's not even part of a"}, {'start': '446.479', 'end': '450.479', 'text': 'peace deal. There are no security'}, {'start': '448.080', 'end': '452.720', 'text': 'guarantees in that deal and President'}, {'start': '450.479', 'end': '456.080', 'text': 'Zilinsky had been point uh pushing for'}, {'start': '452.720', 'end': '458.160', 'text': 'that. Um but it does show American'}, {'start': '456.080', 'end': '459.840', 'text': 'commitment. The Treasury Secretary said'}, {'start': '458.160', 'end': '462.080', 'text': 'it shows the US is committed to'}, {'start': '459.840', 'end': '463.919', 'text': 'facilitating the end of this cruel and'}, {'start': '462.080', 'end': '466.400', 'text': 'senseless war. Now, officials that we'}, {'start': '463.919', 'end': '468.960', 'text': "spoke to at the Pentagon, they don't see"}, {'start': '466.400', 'end': '471.599', 'text': 'it foresee it taking an impact or making'}, {'start': '468.960', 'end': '475.680', 'text': 'an impact on weapons delivery to Ukraine'}, {'start': '471.599', 'end': '478.080', 'text': 'in the future uh that uh supporting'}, {'start': '475.680', 'end': '480.080', 'text': 'Ukraine with military aid might be'}, {'start': '478.080', 'end': '481.840', 'text': 'seeing is offsetting uh any kind of'}, {'start': '480.080', 'end': '483.520', 'text': 'broker deal over those natural'}, {'start': '481.840', 'end': '486.080', 'text': 'resources. But having said that, look,'}, {'start': '483.520', 'end': '488.879', 'text': 'it pulls the United States closer to'}, {'start': '486.080', 'end': '491.599', 'text': "Ukraine. Uh it's a message to Russia of"}, {'start': '488.879', 'end': '493.479', 'text': 'that closer alliance and certainly keeps'}, {'start': '491.599', 'end': '495.520', 'text': 'Russia from eyeing up those natural'}, {'start': '493.479', 'end': '497.919', 'text': 'resources even if some of those'}, {'start': '495.520', 'end': '499.440', 'text': 'resources are currently under uh Russian'}, {'start': '497.919', 'end': '501.759', 'text': "occupied territory. So it's it's"}, {'start': '499.440', 'end': '504.639', 'text': 'definitely a step forward. Uh it might'}, {'start': '501.759', 'end': '506.800', 'text': 'make Kev more amendable to peace talks.'}, {'start': '504.639', 'end': '508.319', 'text': 'But none of this was contingent on any'}, {'start': '506.800', 'end': '510.000', 'text': 'kind of peace negotiations. So with no'}, {'start': '508.319', 'end': '512.240', 'text': 'security guarantees, why is it that'}, {'start': '510.000', 'end': '513.919', 'text': 'Ukraine ultimately decided to sign this?'}, {'start': '512.240', 'end': '515.440', 'text': "I mean, what we obviously don't know"}, {'start': '513.919', 'end': '517.440', 'text': 'exactly what was said in that meeting'}, {'start': '515.440', 'end': '520.080', 'text': 'between Trump and Zalinski and St.'}, {'start': '517.440', 'end': '522.560', 'text': 'Peters, but but what changed for them?'}, {'start': '520.080', 'end': '525.040', 'text': 'First of all, it gives Keev something to'}, {'start': '522.560', 'end': '527.440', 'text': 'negotiate with. You know, Ukraine'}, {'start': '525.040', 'end': '530.800', 'text': 'understands today, tomorrow, 10 years'}, {'start': '527.440', 'end': '533.279', 'text': 'from now, they will rely on United on'}, {'start': '530.800', 'end': '534.800', 'text': 'the United States militarily, from a'}, {'start': '533.279', 'end': '536.959', 'text': 'commercial standpoint. The United States'}, {'start': '534.800', 'end': '539.440', 'text': 'has got very deep pockets. This is about'}, {'start': '536.959', 'end': '541.279', 'text': 'reconstruction, about repar reparations.'}, {'start': '539.440', 'end': '543.200', 'text': "What's very important too to point out"}, {'start': '541.279', 'end': '545.839', 'text': 'here is although the United States is'}, {'start': '543.200', 'end': '547.279', 'text': 'pushing and even a few days ago, maybe'}, {'start': '545.839', 'end': '549.200', 'text': 'even today, the Trump administration'}, {'start': '547.279', 'end': '551.519', 'text': 'said this is going to offset all kinds'}, {'start': '549.200', 'end': '553.279', 'text': 'of money that America has already poured'}, {'start': '551.519', 'end': '555.839', 'text': "into Ukraine. That's really not the"}, {'start': '553.279', 'end': '558.080', 'text': 'deal. Ukraine sees this as a 5050'}, {'start': '555.839', 'end': '560.160', 'text': 'relationship and a partnership. They'}, {'start': '558.080', 'end': '562.640', 'text': 'know they are sitting on this gold mine'}, {'start': '560.160', 'end': '564.800', 'text': 'of natural resources and it gives them'}, {'start': '562.640', 'end': '566.880', 'text': 'an opportunity, some leverage and they'}, {'start': '564.800', 'end': '568.880', 'text': 'need the leverage in order to get closer'}, {'start': '566.880', 'end': '570.959', 'text': 'to the United States commercially and'}, {'start': '568.880', 'end': '572.640', 'text': "militarily. So that's what's in it for"}, {'start': '570.959', 'end': '574.000', 'text': 'Ukraine and that was always kind of part'}, {'start': '572.640', 'end': '575.920', 'text': 'of the deal. It was floated a few months'}, {'start': '574.000', 'end': '578.000', 'text': 'ago by the Trump administration, but'}, {'start': '575.920', 'end': '579.600', 'text': 'Ukraine is looking for ways to be'}, {'start': '578.000', 'end': '582.320', 'text': "valuable. And it's also important to"}, {'start': '579.600', 'end': '584.560', 'text': "note that there's a little uh paragraph"}, {'start': '582.320', 'end': '586.480', 'text': 'inside uh the agreement that this'}, {'start': '584.560', 'end': '588.720', 'text': "doesn't necessarily stop Ukraine from"}, {'start': '586.480', 'end': '590.959', 'text': 'getting closer to joining the EU. So'}, {'start': '588.720', 'end': '593.279', 'text': 'getting closer to an EU partnership. So'}, {'start': '590.959', 'end': '594.720', 'text': "siding with America doesn't necessarily"}, {'start': '593.279', 'end': '598.720', 'text': "mean they're pulling further away from"}, {'start': '594.720', 'end': '598.720', 'text': 'Europe. Okay, Charlie Daga, thanks so'}]