DGHD    E43T3    Amenazas Digitales en un mundo hiperconectado
Digital Humanity / Humanidad Digital
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I'm Rodrigo"}, {'start': '37.160', 'end': '41.200', 'text': 'Bernardino and we cordially'}, {'start': '38.960', 'end': '43.920', 'text': 'welcome you to another episode of'}, {'start': '41.200', 'end': '45.680', 'text': 'Digital Humanity.'}, {'start': '43.920', 'end': '48.600', 'text': "That's how it is."}, {'start': '45.680', 'end': '51.359', 'text': 'Well, news and more news, as we'}, {'start': '48.600', 'end': '54.680', 'text': 'said in some episode here and'}, {'start': '51.359', 'end': '56.640', 'text': "there, because there's been a lot of things"}, {'start': '54.680', 'end': '58.160', 'text': 'these'}, {'start': '56.640', 'end': '61.440', 'text': 'days.'}, {'start': '58.160', 'end': '64.600', 'text': "Hey, I'm starting, let's do the"}, {'start': '61.440', 'end': '67.240', 'text': 'Elon Mosk section now.  Apparently,'}, {'start': '64.600', 'end': '71.159', 'text': 'last week Elon Mosk announced that he was distancing himself'}, {'start': '67.240', 'end': '74.320', 'text': 'from the government, changing course, and'}, {'start': '71.159', 'end': '78.000', 'text': 'trying to gradually distance himself from DOS.'}, {'start': '74.320', 'end': '81.560', 'text': 'this department of'}, {'start': '78.000', 'end': '85.159', 'text': 'government efficiency.  Because?  Well, there are several'}, {'start': '81.560', 'end': '88.920', 'text': 'reasons.  The reasons are both political'}, {'start': '85.159', 'end': '91.759', 'text': 'and economic.  I mean, he has to'}, {'start': '88.920', 'end': '94.799', 'text': "explain to investors his Tesla company's"}, {'start': '91.759', 'end': '97.960', 'text': '70% drop in profits so far this'}, {'start': '94.799', 'end': '99.920', 'text': 'year.'}, {'start': '97.960', 'end': '103.320', 'text': 'This one fell'}, {'start': '99.920', 'end': '106.640', 'text': "dramatically.  On the one hand, well, it's"}, {'start': '103.320', 'end': '110.280', 'text': 'at the worst moment because BYD is'}, {'start': '106.640', 'end': '113.640', 'text': 'eating into the business, the'}, {'start': '110.280', 'end': '116.240', 'text': 'electric car field and Tesla is'}, {'start': '113.640', 'end': '118.799', 'text': 'lagging a bit behind, since'}, {'start': '116.240', 'end': '121.520', 'text': 'despite showing'}, {'start': '118.799', 'end': '123.799', 'text': 'these technological innovations that'}, {'start': '121.520', 'end': '125.479', 'text': 'are surpassing Tesla, for example,'}, {'start': '123.799', 'end': '127.560', 'text': 'their cars that are recharging the'}, {'start': '125.479', 'end': '130.319', 'text': 'battery'}, {'start': '127.560', 'end': '131.760', 'text': 'eh in record time, that is, in the'}, {'start': '130.319', 'end': '133.959', 'text': 'same time that it would charge your'}, {'start': '131.760', 'end': '138.440', 'text': 'gas tank, these batteries are being charged'}, {'start': '133.959', 'end': '141.720', 'text': 'and then if you add to that'}, {'start': '138.440', 'end': '144.160', 'text': 'the issue of tariffs on China,'}, {'start': '141.720', 'end': '145.800', 'text': "which well, maybe it's not that much of a"}, {'start': '144.160', 'end': '147.920', 'text': 'problem because at the end of the day Tesla'}, {'start': '145.800', 'end': '150.200', 'text': 'is being manufactured in China, but'}, {'start': '147.920', 'end': '152.000', 'text': 'whether you like it or not, if a bit of'}, {'start': '150.200', 'end': '153.720', 'text': 'stability returns, a bit of doubt and'}, {'start': '152.000', 'end': '156.280', 'text': 'patriotism on the part of the Chinese, to'}, {'start': '153.720', 'end': '158.280', 'text': 'say this if the Americans treat us badly,'}, {'start': '156.280', 'end': '159.840', 'text': 'well, we are going to consume'}, {'start': '158.280', 'end': '162.640', 'text': 'Chinese cars and well, not to mention'}, {'start': '159.840', 'end': '164.959', 'text': 'Latin America and Mexico, which are'}, {'start': '162.640', 'end': '167.840', 'text': 'countries in which Chinese electric cars'}, {'start': '164.959', 'end': '170.519', 'text': 'are eh invading the'}, {'start': '167.840', 'end': '173.879', 'text': 'streets due to their low costs, right?,'}, {'start': '170.519', 'end': '176.680', 'text': 'compared to Tesla.  On the other hand,'}, {'start': '173.879', 'end': '178.200', 'text': "Jeff Besos' Blue Origin, which"}, {'start': '176.680', 'end': '180.599', 'text': 'is competing directly with'}, {'start': '178.200', 'end': '183.319', 'text': 'SpaceX, is also'}, {'start': '180.599', 'end': '185.920', 'text': 'successful in its heavy-lift rocket flights'}, {'start': '183.319', 'end': '190.959', 'text': '.  On the other hand, also'}, {'start': '185.920', 'end': '195.040', 'text': 'yesterday, April 28, Amazon'}, {'start': '190.959', 'end': '200.040', 'text': 'launched 27 satellites also with this'}, {'start': '195.040', 'end': '203.360', 'text': 'system called Quiiper, which is'}, {'start': '200.040', 'end': '206.200', 'text': 'directly in competition with Starlink.'}, {'start': '203.360', 'end': '208.280', 'text': 'So imagine, it launched 27 satellites'}, {'start': '206.200', 'end': '211.319', 'text': 'in a single day and is planning to be'}, {'start': '208.280', 'end': '215.319', 'text': 'manufacturing five satellites a day.  I'}, {'start': '211.319', 'end': '218.000', 'text': "mean, it's a really"}, {'start': '215.319', 'end': '220.159', 'text': 'huge competition, right?  Brutal.  And on the other hand,'}, {'start': '218.000', 'end': '223.560', 'text': 'the political issues of Elon not'}, {'start': '220.159', 'end': '226.439', 'text': 'messing with Ukraine and the comments'}, {'start': '223.560', 'end': '229.599', 'text': 'about Selensky, well, it makes'}, {'start': '226.439', 'end': '232.159', 'text': 'governments, uh, in Europe mainly,'}, {'start': '229.599', 'end': '235.200', 'text': 'start looking for alternatives to'}, {'start': '232.159', 'end': '238.000', 'text': 'Elon Musk and well, with Amazon there'}, {'start': '235.200', 'end': '241.319', 'text': "as an option, well, of course it's going to be a"}, {'start': '238.000', 'end': '244.280', 'text': 'very viable option, right?'}, {'start': '241.319', 'end': '246.840', 'text': 'Furthermore, within the United States,'}, {'start': '244.280', 'end': '249.560', 'text': "people don't like these"}, {'start': '246.840', 'end': '253.079', 'text': 'actions by Doh, since he'}, {'start': '249.560', 'end': '255.560', 'text': 'dismantled, well,'}, {'start': '253.079', 'end': '258.400', 'text': 'entire government departments and laid off'}, {'start': '255.560', 'end': '262.479', 'text': 'tens of thousands of workers,'}, {'start': '258.400', 'end': '266.320', 'text': "civil servants, and it doesn't stop there,"}, {'start': '262.479', 'end': '270.600', 'text': "right?  In other words, I'm announcing that it's not just about"}, {'start': '266.320', 'end': '273.440', 'text': 'dismantling and cutting'}, {'start': '270.600', 'end': '277.840', 'text': "government resources, but it's also about going after the"}, {'start': '273.440', 'end': '282.199', 'text': 'data.  Hey, at the beginning of April it was'}, {'start': '277.840', 'end': '286.680', 'text': 'announced that they were doing a 3-day jacathon'}, {'start': '282.199', 'end': '289.199', 'text': 'to build a mega API or API that was going to be'}, {'start': '286.680', 'end': '292.000', 'text': 'hosted, where do you'}, {'start': '289.199', 'end': '296.360', 'text': 'think?  In Palatir, indeed, in'}, {'start': '292.000', 'end': '300.639', 'text': 'this intelligent systems company,'}, {'start': '296.360', 'end': '304.160', 'text': 'of systems, well, of the military, right?,'}, {'start': '300.639', 'end': '305.919', 'text': 'that provide services to governments.  And'}, {'start': '304.160', 'end': '308.400', 'text': "well, it's going to be,"}, {'start': '305.919', 'end': '311.960', 'text': "uh, it's going to be the place where"}, {'start': '308.400', 'end': '314.199', 'text': 'a large repository will be housed that will seek to'}, {'start': '311.960', 'end': '315.759', 'text': 'interconnect data from different'}, {'start': '314.199', 'end': '317.400', 'text': 'agencies.'}, {'start': '315.759', 'end': '321.680', 'text': "I'm going to mention the agencies from"}, {'start': '317.400', 'end': '324.520', 'text': 'which Elon Musk is extracting data,'}, {'start': '321.680', 'end': '328.520', 'text': 'sensitive information.  On the one hand, the'}, {'start': '324.520', 'end': '331.039', 'text': 'IRS, Internal Revenue Service, which is the'}, {'start': '328.520', 'end': '333.840', 'text': 'government agency in charge of'}, {'start': '331.039', 'end': '338.840', 'text': "collecting taxes.  So, you've already"}, {'start': '333.840', 'end': '341.520', 'text': 'extracted the information from this'}, {'start': '338.840', 'end': '344.240', 'text': 'agency.  On the other hand,'}, {'start': '341.520', 'end': '347.280', 'text': 'DHS, which is the Department of'}, {'start': '344.240', 'end': '351.840', 'text': 'Homeland Security.  And this will allow you to'}, {'start': '347.280', 'end': '354.720', 'text': 'track and monitor'}, {'start': '351.840', 'end': '357.120', 'text': 'undocumented immigrants.  Uh, he pulled data from'}, {'start': '354.720', 'end': '359.120', 'text': 'SSA, which is the Social Security Administration'}, {'start': '357.120', 'end': '362.560', 'text': '.   He'}, {'start': '359.120', 'end': '364.160', 'text': 'extracted data from USCIS, which is'}, {'start': '362.560', 'end': '367.880', 'text': 'basically the agency'}, {'start': '364.160', 'end': '371.000', 'text': 'responsible for managing'}, {'start': '367.880', 'end': '374.599', 'text': 'immigration procedures, and also, under the pretext of'}, {'start': '371.000', 'end': '377.680', 'text': 'verifying that immigrants were not'}, {'start': '374.599', 'end': '381.319', 'text': 'voting, requested electoral data'}, {'start': '377.680', 'end': '383.960', 'text': 'from both Pennsylvania and Florida.'}, {'start': '381.319', 'end': '385.639', 'text': 'So, if you see, from different'}, {'start': '383.960', 'end': '388.120', 'text': 'agencies, from different'}, {'start': '385.639', 'end': '391.520', 'text': 'departments, uh, it obtained this'}, {'start': '388.120', 'end': '395.000', 'text': 'information and is'}, {'start': '391.520', 'end': '397.319', 'text': 'interconnecting it uh to have'}, {'start': '395.000', 'end': '399.880', 'text': 'the greatest amount of information'}, {'start': '397.319', 'end': '403.199', 'text': 'possible and to be able uh to have information'}, {'start': '399.880', 'end': '406.520', 'text': 'on uh refugees, on people'}, {'start': '403.199', 'end': '409.319', 'text': 'requesting asylum, those who have'}, {'start': '406.520', 'end': '412.280', 'text': 'permanent residence, even also'}, {'start': '409.319', 'end': '416.080', 'text': 'citizens these IDenses and'}, {'start': '412.280', 'end': '417.360', 'text': 'naturalized because it has this the'}, {'start': '416.080', 'end': '419.199', 'text': 'now yes, what is the Treasury in'}, {'start': '417.360', 'end': '421.240', 'text': 'Mexico, right?, those who collect'}, {'start': '419.199', 'end': '424.639', 'text': 'taxes.'}, {'start': '421.240', 'end': '428.080', 'text': 'Uh, in addition,'}, {'start': '424.639', 'end': '431.000', 'text': 'this database also has'}, {'start': '428.080', 'end': '434.240', 'text': 'the IP addresses of the people who'}, {'start': '431.000', 'end': '437.520', 'text': 'request a stay and then'}, {'start': '434.240', 'end': '439.440', 'text': 'when you request a stay, they'}, {'start': '437.520', 'end': '442.080', 'text': 'record where you are requesting it from'}, {'start': '439.440', 'end': '444.800', 'text': 'and with this they already have a geolocation'}, {'start': '442.080', 'end': '447.560', 'text': 'and well, they have, I mean, they know if your'}, {'start': '444.800', 'end': '450.440', 'text': 'request is pending, approved, was'}, {'start': '447.560', 'end': '452.360', 'text': 'denied, uh,'}, {'start': '450.440', 'end': '455.120', 'text': 'Anyway, they have a large amount of'}, {'start': '452.360', 'end': '457.280', 'text': 'data, even biometric, right?  There are'}, {'start': '455.120', 'end': '460.000', 'text': 'databases that have biometrics of'}, {'start': '457.280', 'end': '462.599', 'text': 'citizens and they are also obtaining them from there'}, {'start': '460.000', 'end': '464.879', 'text': '.  The truth is that this has never been'}, {'start': '462.599', 'end': '466.840', 'text': 'done before: a'}, {'start': '464.879', 'end': '468.800', 'text': 'central database that has so much'}, {'start': '466.840', 'end': '471.560', 'text': 'information from different agencies, from'}, {'start': '468.800', 'end': '474.360', 'text': 'different sectors, and that can be'}, {'start': '471.560', 'end': '476.639', 'text': 'interconnected or have a'}, {'start': '474.360', 'end': '480.879', 'text': 'large API.'}, {'start': '476.639', 'end': '483.800', 'text': 'Uh, an API is basically a connector, I'}, {'start': '480.879', 'end': '487.199', 'text': "don't know, a software connector in which"}, {'start': '483.800', 'end': '489.120', 'text': 'you can request information and'}, {'start': '487.199', 'end': '491.639', 'text': 'well, it will provide it to you as'}, {'start': '489.120', 'end': '493.960', 'text': 'long as you have the credentials or you have'}, {'start': '491.639', 'end': '495.919', 'text': 'the username and password, correct.  But we'}, {'start': '493.960', 'end': '498.400', 'text': 'also know'}, {'start': '495.919', 'end': '502.159', 'text': 'that there is a risk that this'}, {'start': '498.400', 'end': '504.639', 'text': 'information may be in one place and accessed by one'}, {'start': '502.159', 'end': '506.599', 'text': 'means, and that it could be'}, {'start': '504.639', 'end': '510.240', 'text': 'accessed by people who could'}, {'start': '506.599', 'end': '512.200', 'text': 'misuse it.  Uh, even'}, {'start': '510.240', 'end': '516.680', 'text': 'within the government it can be used'}, {'start': '512.200', 'end': '519.360', 'text': 'for repressive purposes or to use it as a'}, {'start': '516.680', 'end': '524.080', 'text': 'weapon against people they'}, {'start': '519.360', 'end': '525.720', 'text': 'dislike or who are dissidents or what they'}, {'start': '524.080', 'end': '528.680', 'text': "'re doing right now, to"}, {'start': '525.720', 'end': '531.720', 'text': "monitor immigrants, right?  So it's"}, {'start': '528.680', 'end': '534.600', 'text': 'really a centralization of'}, {'start': '531.720', 'end': '536.680', 'text': 'information to be able to locate'}, {'start': '534.600', 'end': '540.360', 'text': 'people, know what their immigration status is,'}, {'start': '536.680', 'end': '543.000', 'text': "and yes, they're going to"}, {'start': '540.360', 'end': '545.480', 'text': "have us, well, they're going to have them extremely"}, {'start': '543.000', 'end': '547.880', 'text': 'closely monitored.  Obviously we say,'}, {'start': '545.480', 'end': '550.120', 'text': '"Well, this only involves the'}, {'start': '547.880', 'end': '552.160', 'text': 'United States."  Well, to start with, what'}, {'start': '550.120', 'end': '553.680', 'text': 'immigrants want is to'}, {'start': '552.160', 'end': '556.600', 'text': "kick them out of the United States.  So it's going"}, {'start': '553.680', 'end': '559.399', 'text': "to affect people who are there, and it's"}, {'start': '556.600', 'end': '561.399', 'text': 'also going to be a great idea'}, {'start': '559.399', 'end': '563.440', 'text': 'for the government, for other types of'}, {'start': '561.399', 'end': '564.800', 'text': 'governments when they see what'}, {'start': '563.440', 'end': '567.360', 'text': 'the results are going to be, right?  Like'}, {'start': '564.800', 'end': '569.959', 'text': 'repressions, right?  And then we'}, {'start': '567.360', 'end': '573.880', 'text': 'complained so much about China or they complained so much'}, {'start': '569.959', 'end': '576.399', 'text': 'about China and they are replicating these types of'}, {'start': '573.880', 'end': '578.760', 'text': 'surveillance systems.'}, {'start': '576.399', 'end': '580.560', 'text': "That's where the meme of you"}, {'start': '578.760', 'end': '583.079', 'text': 'became that which you swore to'}, {'start': '580.560', 'end': '585.959', 'text': 'destroy'}, {'start': '583.079', 'end': '588.800', 'text': 'Star Wars fits in, because at the end of the day,'}, {'start': '585.959', 'end': '591.320', 'text': 'we are seeing how'}, {'start': '588.800', 'end': '595.560', 'text': 'this is becoming a dictatorship'}, {'start': '591.320', 'end': '598.720', 'text': 'disguised as a'}, {'start': '595.560', 'end': '600.720', 'text': 'democracy, and there are some voices out there'}, {'start': '598.720', 'end': '602.360', 'text': 'that are already saying this in'}, {'start': '600.720', 'end': '604.040', 'text': "different media.  And it's also worth"}, {'start': '602.360', 'end': '608.240', 'text': 'noting that Palantir is'}, {'start': '604.040', 'end': '611.440', 'text': 'becoming an attractive target for'}, {'start': '608.240', 'end': '615.519', 'text': 'all known threat actors,'}, {'start': '611.440', 'end': '618.560', 'text': 'namely North Korea, Russia and'}, {'start': '615.519', 'end': '621.680', 'text': 'Ukraine itself, even though the latter two are'}, {'start': '618.560', 'end': '623.959', 'text': 'at war, they are not going to stop, for example,'}, {'start': '621.680', 'end': '625.920', 'text': 'Russia is not going to stop its attacks even though it has'}, {'start': '623.959', 'end': '628.480', 'text': 'understood these conversations and'}, {'start': '625.920', 'end': '632.519', 'text': 'these alliances, they are not going to stop'}, {'start': '628.480', 'end': '635.959', 'text': 'trying to compromise. And'}, {'start': '632.519', 'end': '638.360', 'text': 'we have also seen this throughout the'}, {'start': '635.959', 'end': '641.560', 'text': 'history of the different'}, {'start': '638.360', 'end': '644.240', 'text': 'important security breaches.  I was'}, {'start': '641.560', 'end': '646.240', 'text': "looking around right now, and I've"}, {'start': '644.240', 'end': '648.720', 'text': 'had it on my mind since this morning, and I forgot the'}, {'start': '646.240', 'end': '650.519', 'text': 'name of this'}, {'start': '648.720', 'end': '653.279', 'text': 'cybersecurity vendor who was hacked, and'}, {'start': '650.519', 'end': '654.880', 'text': 'through that hack or breach, they'}, {'start': '653.279', 'end': '657.800', 'text': 'managed to reach the Department of'}, {'start': '654.880', 'end': '659.600', 'text': 'Defense and all these other'}, {'start': '657.800', 'end': '660.680', 'text': 'government institutions.'}, {'start': '659.600', 'end': '663.320', 'text': 'However, well, from the analyses'}, {'start': '660.680', 'end': '666.720', 'text': 'derived from that hack, which I think will happen in'}, {'start': '663.320', 'end': '669.079', 'text': "2023, if I'm not mistaken, well, it was that which"}, {'start': '666.720', 'end': '672.360', 'text': 'right now is one of the vectors and'}, {'start': '669.079', 'end': '675.360', 'text': "we've already mentioned here is about the"}, {'start': '672.360', 'end': '677.639', 'text': 'famous supply chain, right?  The'}, {'start': '675.360', 'end': '679.920', 'text': 'distribution line of companies and'}, {'start': '677.639', 'end': '681.959', 'text': 'institutions.  So, Panatir is'}, {'start': '679.920', 'end': '684.040', 'text': 'becoming this'}, {'start': '681.959', 'end': '686.279', 'text': 'security and defense distributor that'}, {'start': '684.040', 'end': '688.920', 'text': 'is perhaps very confident in its systems and'}, {'start': '686.279', 'end': '691.560', 'text': "has safeguards and so on.   We'll have to"}, {'start': '688.920', 'end': '693.560', 'text': 'see how good they are in the future'}, {'start': '691.560', 'end': '696.279', 'text': ', because at the end of the day,'}, {'start': '693.560', 'end': '699.639', 'text': 'yes, the more connections you have,'}, {'start': '696.279', 'end': '702.480', 'text': 'especially to government agencies and'}, {'start': '699.639', 'end': '704.360', 'text': 'like the DHS you mentioned, they will'}, {'start': '702.480', 'end': '707.639', 'text': 'definitely become'}, {'start': '704.360', 'end': '710.079', 'text': 'this target of'}, {'start': '707.639', 'end': '712.680', 'text': 'cybercriminals and'}, {'start': '710.079', 'end': '714.320', 'text': 'threat actors who have state funding,'}, {'start': '712.680', 'end': '716.959', 'text': 'that is, North Korea gives them money, the'}, {'start': '714.320', 'end': '719.320', 'text': 'North Korean government gives these different'}, {'start': '716.959', 'end': '722.040', 'text': 'groups so they can hack everything'}, {'start': '719.320', 'end': '724.560', 'text': 'all the time.  So, those are some,'}, {'start': '722.040', 'end': '727.079', 'text': 'but there are also those who are looking at'}, {'start': '724.560', 'end': '729.959', 'text': 'how they can take advantage of that information,'}, {'start': '727.079', 'end': '732.880', 'text': 'which is already criminal groups'}, {'start': '729.959', 'end': '734.440', 'text': 'operating in the digital realm.'}, {'start': '732.880', 'end': '736.320', 'text': 'So,'}, {'start': '734.440', 'end': '740.199', 'text': 'Palantri is definitely'}, {'start': '736.320', 'end': '743.320', 'text': 'becoming this very juicy target'}, {'start': '740.199', 'end': '746.760', 'text': 'for all of these and of course, well,'}, {'start': '743.320', 'end': '748.399', 'text': 'some activists as well and'}, {'start': '746.760', 'end': '751.360', 'text': 'activism groups that have been'}, {'start': '748.399', 'end': '754.279', 'text': 'much more subdued right now and not'}, {'start': '751.360', 'end': '757.320', 'text': 'much has really been known about these groups,'}, {'start': '754.279', 'end': '761.320', 'text': 'however, we cannot stop'}, {'start': '757.320', 'end': '763.120', 'text': 'considering them as a serious threat.'}, {'start': '761.320', 'end': '765.519', 'text': "Well, we'll have to see how"}, {'start': '763.120', 'end': '768.639', 'text': 'all this develops and yes,'}, {'start': '765.519', 'end': '772.240', 'text': 'right now Mosk, I think he said,'}, {'start': '768.639', 'end': '775.160', 'text': '"I have to stop being on this front'}, {'start': '772.240', 'end': '777.440', 'text': 'and return to what makes money before'}, {'start': '775.160', 'end': '780.560', 'text': 'the ship sinks. He'}, {'start': '777.440', 'end': '784.720', 'text': "'s definitely not as triumphant at this moment as"}, {'start': '780.560', 'end': '788.240', 'text': 'he felt. I think the stock market and the'}, {'start': '784.720', 'end': '792.040', 'text': 'people themselves, even in his own'}, {'start': '788.240', 'end': '795.279', 'text': "personal fandom, have shown him that he's"}, {'start': '792.040', 'end': '798.800', 'text': 'not at his best and of'}, {'start': '795.279', 'end': '801.199', 'text': "course, he's going to do this thing of returning a"}, {'start': '798.800', 'end': '803.399', 'text': 'little to where the golden eggs are'}, {'start': '801.199', 'end': '805.320', 'text': 'and all that. 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I'}, {'start': '931.639', 'end': '939.880', 'text': 'was reading about AI'}, {'start': '936.560', 'end': '941.759', 'text': 'companions, meta AI, these'}, {'start': '939.880', 'end': '943.959', 'text': 'digital companions.  We'}, {'start': '941.759', 'end': '946.720', 'text': 'had already done that in episodes 2 and 3,'}, {'start': '943.959', 'end': '950.440', 'text': 'the first season, and in that distant'}, {'start': '946.720', 'end': '955.240', 'text': 'year.  So remind me what it was'}, {'start': '950.440', 'end': '958.959', 'text': 'about Instagram for kids episode 2 and'}, {'start': '955.240', 'end': '961.560', 'text': 'three Facebook whistle blower at'}, {'start': '958.959', 'end': '964.040', 'text': 'that time it was just one, so'}, {'start': '961.560', 'end': '966.399', 'text': "now we've moved forward in time and there's more."}, {'start': '964.040', 'end': '969.199', 'text': 'However, it was Hodens, Francis'}, {'start': '966.399', 'end': '973.720', 'text': 'Hodgens, who was a bit of a man.  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Well, that's the"}, {'start': '1005.519', 'end': '1011.839', 'text': 'context.  Now fast-forward to 2025. 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I mean, you'}, {'start': '1115.440', 'end': '1120.600', 'text': 'can be talking about the moon,'}, {'start': '1118.520', 'end': '1123.080', 'text': 'whatever, and he starts holding, "Oh yeah, the'}, {'start': '1120.600', 'end': '1125.520', 'text': 'moon, like we\'re going to kiss, right?"'}, {'start': '1123.080', 'end': '1128.440', 'text': 'He says, "Wow, woof, woof, what\'s'}, {'start': '1125.520', 'end': '1132.080', 'text': 'up?"  So that\'s one that starts to'}, {'start': '1128.440', 'end': '1134.760', 'text': 'go up.  Yes, well, what did I ask?'}, {'start': '1132.080', 'end': '1139.799', 'text': "So, that's the issue"}, {'start': '1134.760', 'end': '1141.600', 'text': 'of, okay, starting to raise the tone'}, {'start': '1139.799', 'end': '1143.520', 'text': 'towards users, that is,'}, {'start': '1141.600', 'end': '1145.799', 'text': 'adult users and minor users.  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The thing is, you don't"}, {'start': '1334.559', 'end': '1338.039', 'text': 'even have to do that, I mean,'}, {'start': '1336.000', 'end': '1339.200', 'text': 'people will start putting it on for you right now,'}, {'start': '1338.039', 'end': '1341.039', 'text': 'and in fact, I wanted to'}, {'start': '1339.200', 'end': '1342.919', 'text': 'show you how they put it on for you themselves.  Well, I do'}, {'start': '1341.039', 'end': '1344.559', 'text': "n't think you can see it there, but I'm going"}, {'start': '1342.919', 'end': '1347.080', 'text': 'to put it in the insert.  We are live right now'}, {'start': '1344.559', 'end': '1350.360', 'text': ".  Uh, it's a screenshot that I took"}, {'start': '1347.080', 'end': '1352.799', 'text': "because I said, well, I'm going to check out the"}, {'start': '1350.360', 'end': '1354.679', 'text': 'setting that we have on Instagram and'}, {'start': '1352.799', 'end': '1357.520', 'text': 'this message from Instagram appeared where it'}, {'start': '1354.679', 'end': '1360.600', 'text': 'says, "We\'re introducing'}, {'start': '1357.520', 'end': '1363.200', 'text': 'teen accounts, uh, automatic protection'}, {'start': '1360.600', 'end': '1364.799', 'text': 'for teens. Do you want to see how it'}, {'start': '1363.200', 'end': '1366.200', 'text': 'works?"  Blah blah.  I took the'}, {'start': '1364.799', 'end': '1368.200', 'text': "screenshot and well, now we're"}, {'start': '1366.200', 'end': '1371.640', 'text': "live. 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And he'}, {'start': '1406.840', 'end': '1412.520', 'text': 'contacted at least three celebrities,'}, {'start': '1409.600', 'end': '1415.640', 'text': 'of those reported by this'}, {'start': '1412.520', 'end': '1416.520', 'text': 'newspaper, who are John Ca, the'}, {'start': '1416.520', 'end': '1422.120', 'text': 'WWE wrestler, Christen Bell, I think, and'}, {'start': '1419.960', 'end': '1424.360', 'text': "someone else, another actress, I can't remember"}, {'start': '1422.120', 'end': '1427.960', 'text': 'her name right now, to ask them to give their'}, {'start': '1424.360', 'end': '1430.159', 'text': 'voices to use these agents or these'}, {'start': '1427.960', 'end': '1431.840', 'text': "digital partners.  So, there's another"}, {'start': '1430.159', 'end': '1434.679', 'text': 'of the tests that it does, the newspaper'}, {'start': '1431.840', 'end': '1437.080', 'text': 'that was also made for me to reflect on'}, {'start': '1434.679', 'end': '1439.600', 'text': 'was the good one, how aware is'}, {'start': '1437.080', 'end': '1441.760', 'text': "the agent or the chatbot of what it's"}, {'start': '1439.600', 'end': '1444.039', 'text': 'doing?  So they say, well, what'}, {'start': '1441.760', 'end': '1446.520', 'text': "if we're already in the"}, {'start': '1444.039', 'end': '1448.240', 'text': 'totally sexual, risqué scene?  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There's"}, {'start': '1601.080', 'end': '1604.559', 'text': 'also the theme of the week of people'}, {'start': '1602.600', 'end': '1608.000', 'text': 'saying, "Please, and thank you from'}, {'start': '1604.559', 'end': '1610.880', 'text': 'Oh, yeah, sure."  I mean, 60% of'}, {'start': '1608.000', 'end': '1613.279', 'text': 'people say "hey please Alexa"'}, {'start': '1610.880', 'end': '1616.440', 'text': 'when they ask Google Home for something, I'}, {'start': '1613.279', 'end': '1618.159', 'text': 'mean, the level is very high and again,'}, {'start': '1616.440', 'end': '1621.120', 'text': 'sometimes we forget that'}, {'start': '1618.159', 'end': '1623.600', 'text': 'we are talking to an'}, {'start': '1621.120', 'end': '1625.919', 'text': 'algorithm, a computer, with'}, {'start': '1623.600', 'end': '1627.960', 'text': 'a series of predefined and'}, {'start': '1625.919', 'end': '1629.840', 'text': 'trained responses and so on and I include myself,'}, {'start': '1627.960', 'end': '1631.919', 'text': 'I do it too, uh, although'}, {'start': '1629.840', 'end': '1634.039', 'text': 'the meaning of please and thank you goes in another direction,'}, {'start': '1631.919', 'end': '1636.480', 'text': 'however, I include it in'}, {'start': '1634.039', 'end': '1638.480', 'text': "a single block.  Me too, no, I'm not that"}, {'start': '1636.480', 'end': '1641.559', 'text': 'used to doing like hello and'}, {'start': '1638.480', 'end': '1643.640', 'text': 'then enter and and I know other people, yes,'}, {'start': '1641.559', 'end': '1646.159', 'text': 'I send this huge block and people'}, {'start': '1643.640', 'end': '1648.000', 'text': 'say, "Oh, you sent me a big sausage."'}, {'start': '1646.159', 'end': '1650.600', 'text': 'However, well, there is just one'}, {'start': '1648.000', 'end': '1651.880', 'text': 'message that the note said, well, you'}, {'start': '1650.600', 'end': '1655.399', 'text': 'are sending'}, {'start': '1651.880', 'end': '1657.799', 'text': 'small, relevant messages and they generate a'}, {'start': '1655.399', 'end': '1659.440', 'text': 'large amount of resources.  But'}, {'start': '1657.799', 'end': '1662.200', 'text': 'before we jump into that, I wanted to finish the'}, {'start': '1659.440', 'end': '1664.360', 'text': 'topic of meta because there is a'}, {'start': '1662.200', 'end': '1666.919', 'text': 'researcher from the University of'}, {'start': '1664.360', 'end': '1669.559', 'text': 'Michigan who says, "Well, here'}, {'start': '1666.919', 'end': '1671.840', 'text': 'she obviously studies the part of how'}, {'start': '1669.559', 'end': '1673.440', 'text': 'children relate to'}, {'start': '1671.840', 'end': '1676.399', 'text': 'technology and says, "It is very'}, {'start': '1673.440', 'end': '1679.519', 'text': 'worrying because we have seen that'}, {'start': '1676.399', 'end': '1681.039', 'text': 'when children'}, {'start': '1679.519', 'end': '1683.760', 'text': 'relate to technology, for'}, {'start': '1681.039', 'end': '1686.039', 'text': 'example, I sell an animated character'}, {'start': '1683.760', 'end': '1687.760', 'text': 'that can interact with them and this,'}, {'start': '1686.039', 'end': '1690.200', 'text': 'since they are in development, they still do not'}, {'start': '1687.760', 'end': '1693.880', 'text': 'have these safeguards, but'}, {'start': '1690.200', 'end': '1695.240', 'text': 'rather cognitive or mental ones to'}, {'start': '1693.880', 'end': '1696.240', 'text': 'say, "No, this is not real, this'}, {'start': '1695.240', 'end': '1698.720', 'text': 'is not happening."  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Have studies and'}, {'start': '1731.720', 'end': '1736.240', 'text': 'also stop or pause these'}, {'start': '1733.960', 'end': '1738.559', 'text': 'things.  But what company of this'}, {'start': '1736.240', 'end': '1741.000', 'text': 'size is going to want to pause'}, {'start': '1738.559', 'end': '1744.399', 'text': "right now?  And it's obvious with everything that's"}, {'start': '1741.000', 'end': '1747.399', 'text': "happening that we're going to find out the"}, {'start': '1744.399', 'end': '1749.320', 'text': 'hard way when we start seeing some'}, {'start': '1747.399', 'end': '1752.320', 'text': 'pretty serious and'}, {'start': '1749.320', 'end': '1755.519', 'text': 'severe situations, as has happened in'}, {'start': '1752.320', 'end': '1758.120', 'text': 'the past.  They will soon understand the'}, {'start': '1755.519', 'end': '1761.600', 'text': 'opposite.  They\'re going to say, "At what point do we'}, {'start': '1758.120', 'end': '1762.960', 'text': 'put this in a sex toy?"   I'}, {'start': '1761.600', 'end': '1766.360', 'text': 'mean, at what point are we going to say,'}, {'start': '1762.960', 'end': '1769.679', 'text': '"No, stop, this is quite eh'}, {'start': '1766.360', 'end': '1771.799', 'text': 'sexy and sensual, and it can'}, {'start': '1769.679', 'end': '1776.799', 'text': 'fall into the hands of someone who'}, {'start': '1771.799', 'end': '1779.080', 'text': 'is not eh well, who cannot eh know that'}, {'start': '1776.799', 'end': '1782.080', 'text': 'difference or that line, right?, between a'}, {'start': '1779.080', 'end': '1784.480', 'text': 'machine and a person and could end up'}, {'start': '1782.080', 'end': '1788.679', 'text': 'committing other types of acts, right?'}, {'start': '1784.480', 'end': '1790.440', 'text': 'So yes, it is really this'}, {'start': '1788.679', 'end': '1793.200', 'text': 'risky and I do believe that'}, {'start': '1790.440', 'end': '1795.799', 'text': 'more articles should be written and red flags should be turned on'}, {'start': '1793.200', 'end': '1798.960', 'text': 'and say careful, right?, that this'}, {'start': '1795.799', 'end': '1801.559', 'text': 'can become quite dangerous eh'}, {'start': '1798.960', 'end': '1803.240', 'text': 'in a teenager whose eh'}, {'start': '1801.559', 'end': '1805.760', 'text': 'personality is just being'}, {'start': '1803.240', 'end': '1809.240', 'text': 'formed. 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It's more important for them to"}, {'start': '2068.599', 'end': '2073.679', 'text': 'be mentally healthy'}, {'start': '2071.919', 'end': '2075.720', 'text': 'before their information can be'}, {'start': '2073.679', 'end': '2077.359', 'text': 'sold or used for other'}, {'start': '2075.720', 'end': '2079.960', 'text': 'purposes, right?  So, well, at that'}, {'start': '2077.359', 'end': '2084.919', 'text': "point you're absolutely right,"}, {'start': '2079.960', 'end': '2089.200', 'text': 'right?  as a substitute for'}, {'start': '2084.919', 'end': '2092.679', 'text': 'behavioral doctors, right?  The'}, {'start': '2089.200', 'end': '2095.280', 'text': 'second'}, {'start': '2092.679', 'end': '2098.960', 'text': 'most common use of a chatbot is to'}, {'start': '2095.280', 'end': '2101.599', 'text': "organize people's lives.  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Or no, none, but anyway,'}, {'start': '2338.280', 'end': '2344.920', 'text': "it's a very low percentage.  Sorry,"}, {'start': '2340.760', 'end': '2349.000', 'text': 'Generation Z, those born in the 80s,'}, {'start': '2344.920', 'end': '2351.640', 'text': '97 to 2, that is, around 30'}, {'start': '2349.000', 'end': '2353.160', 'text': "to 40 years old, let's say.  We are"}, {'start': '2351.640', 'end': '2355.800', 'text': 'millennials, the generation that'}, {'start': '2353.160', 'end': '2357.680', 'text': 'follows the lowest.  Millennial.  Well, you'}, {'start': '2355.800', 'end': '2360.760', 'text': 'are X, I am a Millennial and then'}, {'start': '2357.680', 'end': '2363.760', 'text': 'Z would follow. That is, those who are'}, {'start': '2360.760', 'end': '2367.760', 'text': 'entering the labor market and all this'}, {'start': '2363.760', 'end': '2371.119', 'text': 'part, see year-olds and so on up to 30 and'}, {'start': '2367.760', 'end': '2374.000', 'text': 'a few.  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I'}, {'start': '2483.040', 'end': '2490.880', 'text': "mean, it's really an addiction,"}, {'start': '2488.440', 'end': '2492.960', 'text': 'even when watching a movie,'}, {'start': '2490.880', 'end': '2494.800', 'text': 'or something that takes up a lot of time and'}, {'start': '2492.960', 'end': '2497.400', 'text': "you can't take out your"}, {'start': '2494.800', 'end': '2499.319', 'text': 'cell phone, it generates anxiety to see'}, {'start': '2497.400', 'end': '2501.440', 'text': "if they haven't texted you, right?  Even if they haven't"}, {'start': '2499.319', 'end': '2502.960', 'text': "written to you, I mean, I'm one of those"}, {'start': '2501.440', 'end': '2505.560', 'text': "people who doesn't even have"}, {'start': '2502.960', 'end': '2507.319', 'text': 'many messages and yet you want to check'}, {'start': '2505.560', 'end': '2509.359', 'text': 'to see if something important has happened'}, {'start': '2507.319', 'end': '2513.480', 'text': "that you're missing out on, right?"}, {'start': '2509.359', 'end': '2516.560', 'text': 'So I think this one'}, {'start': '2513.480', 'end': '2521.319', 'text': 'will have to come out at some point as an'}, {'start': '2516.560', 'end': '2524.760', 'text': 'annex to social media addicts'}, {'start': '2521.319', 'end': '2527.760', 'text': "because it's complicated, right?  It's an"}, {'start': '2524.760', 'end': '2530.400', 'text': 'anxious generation and this generation, well, it'}, {'start': '2527.760', 'end': '2532.760', 'text': "'s because of this"}, {'start': '2530.400', 'end': '2534.240', 'text': 'addiction to social media and'}, {'start': '2532.760', 'end': '2536.240', 'text': 'having the cell phone in your hand all'}, {'start': '2534.240', 'end': '2539.119', 'text': 'the time.'}, {'start': '2536.240', 'end': '2541.280', 'text': "Yes of course.  And well, now I'll"}, {'start': '2539.119', 'end': '2543.680', 'text': 'link it to the next note, which was'}, {'start': '2541.280', 'end': '2547.079', 'text': 'specifically about health in the work environment'}, {'start': '2543.680', 'end': '2548.839', 'text': ", sorry.  And there's a"}, {'start': '2547.079', 'end': '2550.760', 'text': 'report called'}, {'start': '2548.839', 'end': '2552.119', 'text': 'Health and Safety Revolution: The Role of'}, {'start': '2550.760', 'end': '2554.680', 'text': 'Artificial Intelligence and'}, {'start': '2552.119', 'end': '2556.920', 'text': 'Digitalization at Work.  It is produced by'}, {'start': '2554.680', 'end': '2559.400', 'text': 'this international'}, {'start': '2556.920', 'end': '2563.599', 'text': 'labor organization and I found it very interesting'}, {'start': '2559.400', 'end': '2565.359', 'text': "because I say it is 85 pages long.  eh, I've been"}, {'start': '2563.599', 'end': '2567.000', 'text': "studying it, I'm probably going to"}, {'start': '2565.359', 'end': '2569.960', 'text': 'talk more about it'}, {'start': '2567.000', 'end': '2571.960', 'text': 'on the blog page, which I think we'}, {'start': '2569.960', 'end': '2574.359', 'text': 'should also dedicate'}, {'start': '2571.960', 'end': '2578.280', 'text': 'time to studying there.'}, {'start': '2574.359', 'end': '2581.640', 'text': 'However, as the major findings or'}, {'start': '2578.280', 'end': '2584.119', 'text': 'or what is worth highlighting is that they mention'}, {'start': '2581.640', 'end': '2587.359', 'text': 'how it will be affecting work and'}, {'start': '2584.119', 'end': '2589.960', 'text': 'safety and health within the workplace,'}, {'start': '2587.359', 'end': '2591.880', 'text': 'specifically technology,'}, {'start': '2589.960', 'end': '2593.720', 'text': 'artificial intelligence.  They have'}, {'start': '2591.880', 'end': '2594.960', 'text': 'these five areas that I found'}, {'start': '2593.720', 'end': '2598.520', 'text': 'very interesting:'}, {'start': '2594.960', 'end': '2600.440', 'text': 'automation and advanced robotics,'}, {'start': '2598.520', 'end': '2602.839', 'text': 'intelligent'}, {'start': '2600.440', 'end': '2605.319', 'text': 'occupational health and safety tools and'}, {'start': '2602.839', 'end': '2607.359', 'text': 'surveillance systems,'}, {'start': '2605.319', 'end': '2609.359', 'text': 'extended and virtual reality,'}, {'start': '2607.359', 'end': '2611.440', 'text': 'algorithmic work management, and the'}, {'start': '2609.359', 'end': '2613.680', 'text': 'transformation of'}, {'start': '2611.440', 'end': '2615.680', 'text': 'work modalities through digitalization.'}, {'start': '2613.680', 'end': '2617.520', 'text': 'So, with these five categories, well'}, {'start': '2615.680', 'end': '2620.800', 'text': ', I liked it because they show you,'}, {'start': '2617.520', 'end': '2622.960', 'text': 'well, how could we use it?'}, {'start': '2620.800', 'end': '2624.520', 'text': 'so that workers have'}, {'start': '2622.960', 'end': '2626.559', 'text': 'better health and safety at'}, {'start': '2624.520', 'end': '2629.319', 'text': 'work.  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Well, they say, "Oh,'}, {'start': '2660.680', 'end': '2665.200', 'text': 'well, Balam is very good at answering calls,'}, {'start': '2663.480', 'end': '2668.520', 'text': 'so send all the calls of the day'}, {'start': '2665.200', 'end': '2670.240', 'text': "to him. That's one of the scenarios, right?"}, {'start': '2668.520', 'end': '2672.640', 'text': 'Well, he resolves them quickly, so'}, {'start': '2670.240', 'end': '2675.280', 'text': 'send him."  Yes, but he has a break or'}, {'start': '2672.640', 'end': '2679.040', 'text': 'has to eat in half an hour.  Well yes,'}, {'start': '2675.280', 'end': '2681.160', 'text': "but it doesn't compute, it's not part of"}, {'start': '2679.040', 'end': '2682.680', 'text': 'my algorithm.  Oh yeah, but then give it a'}, {'start': '2681.160', 'end': '2684.079', 'text': "15-minute break and the next minute it's"}, {'start': '2682.680', 'end': '2686.680', 'text': "like, why weren't you here if I already"}, {'start': '2684.079', 'end': '2688.720', 'text': "called you?  I mean, since there's no longer a"}, {'start': '2686.680', 'end': '2691.440', 'text': 'supervisor, it also creates this'}, {'start': '2688.720', 'end': '2695.040', 'text': 'total disconnection from work and'}, {'start': '2691.440', 'end': '2696.839', 'text': 'the position of saying, "Well, hey,'}, {'start': '2695.040', 'end': '2698.920', 'text': "wait a bit, no, there's no one anymore,"}, {'start': '2696.839', 'end': '2701.760', 'text': "I mean, it's an algorithm and you're going to"}, {'start': '2698.920', 'end': '2704.079', 'text': 'keep getting calls and except until I'}, {'start': '2701.760', 'end': '2706.440', 'text': "give you your break and you're told and you'll have to"}, {'start': '2704.079', 'end': '2710.720', 'text': 'see."  So, that\'s one.  Obviously'}, {'start': '2706.440', 'end': '2712.280', 'text': 'there is a lot more.  And from there, yes,'}, {'start': '2710.720', 'end': '2714.079', 'text': 'this addiction that companies have of'}, {'start': '2712.280', 'end': '2715.880', 'text': 'measuring absolutely everything,'}, {'start': '2714.079', 'end': '2718.240', 'text': 'as you say, how long does it take you to do'}, {'start': '2715.880', 'end': '2720.160', 'text': 'an activity?  So how many hours do'}, {'start': '2718.240', 'end': '2722.720', 'text': 'you have in a day, how many of'}, {'start': '2720.160', 'end': '2725.119', 'text': 'those activities can you do?  And give you rewards if'}, {'start': '2722.720', 'end': '2727.400', 'text': "you do it in less time so you're more"}, {'start': '2725.119', 'end': '2729.319', 'text': 'productive, but measure absolutely'}, {'start': '2727.400', 'end': '2731.280', 'text': 'everything, right?  This, and give you a cookie'}, {'start': '2729.319', 'end': '2733.280', 'text': 'if you do well to put you on the'}, {'start': '2731.280', 'end': '2735.079', 'text': 'board, to be the employee of the day.'}, {'start': '2733.280', 'end': '2740.520', 'text': 'And on the other hand, the fact that you are'}, {'start': '2735.079', 'end': '2743.760', 'text': 'monitored by one, uh, by one, how do I'}, {'start': '2740.520', 'end': '2745.680', 'text': 'say it?  robot, eh, well in reality'}, {'start': '2743.760', 'end': '2747.640', 'text': 'this human part is lost, right?  To say,'}, {'start': '2745.680', 'end': '2750.839', 'text': 'wow, I think today I see him tired,'}, {'start': '2747.640', 'end': '2753.720', 'text': 'I see him grumpy, I see him with bags under his'}, {'start': '2750.839', 'end': '2757.880', 'text': "eyes and he surely doesn't have the spirit"}, {'start': '2753.720', 'end': '2759.920', 'text': 'to perform as well as he did yesterday.'}, {'start': '2757.880', 'end': '2762.040', 'text': 'So, maybe I need to talk to'}, {'start': '2759.920', 'end': '2764.280', 'text': "him, I need to see what's going on, if everything"}, {'start': '2762.040', 'end': '2766.000', 'text': "'s okay at home, um, if he has"}, {'start': '2764.280', 'end': '2769.480', 'text': 'any health problems, that sort of'}, {'start': '2766.000', 'end': '2772.400', 'text': "thing, right?  Hey, they don't notice.  Well, at"}, {'start': '2769.480', 'end': '2775.319', 'text': "least right now, they don't realize that"}, {'start': '2772.400', 'end': '2777.119', 'text': 'human side of things: not everything is'}, {'start': '2775.319', 'end': '2779.880', 'text': 'numbers, not everything is performance, and not'}, {'start': '2777.119', 'end': '2781.920', 'text': 'everything can be measured, right?  Yes of course.'}, {'start': '2779.880', 'end': '2784.640', 'text': 'And in fact, that is the other'}, {'start': '2781.920', 'end': '2786.520', 'text': 'point that he mentions as a risk in terms of'}, {'start': '2784.640', 'end': '2789.119', 'text': 'surveillance issues as well.  We'}, {'start': '2786.520', 'end': '2791.240', 'text': 'saw that'}, {'start': '2789.119', 'end': '2794.440', 'text': 'recently, as a result of the pandemic,'}, {'start': '2791.240', 'end': '2795.920', 'text': 'remote jobs, and all this,'}, {'start': '2794.440', 'end': '2797.480', 'text': 'where there were companies that said, "Well, I'}, {'start': '2795.920', 'end': '2799.000', 'text': "have to see what they're doing at"}, {'start': '2797.480', 'end': '2802.160', 'text': "all times because they're not being"}, {'start': '2799.000', 'end': '2804.240', 'text': 'productive."  And then they would open the'}, {'start': '2802.160', 'end': '2807.720', 'text': 'camera and open the microphone and whatever'}, {'start': '2804.240', 'end': '2810.160', 'text': 'they wanted, which is an issue of'}, {'start': '2807.720', 'end': '2813.000', 'text': 'privacy violation, for example.'}, {'start': '2810.160', 'end': '2814.640', 'text': "So, at the end of the day, you don't"}, {'start': '2813.000', 'end': '2816.720', 'text': "know what they're doing. They're at"}, {'start': '2814.640', 'end': '2818.839', 'text': 'home, and they should be'}, {'start': '2816.720', 'end': '2821.160', 'text': 'working, so a series'}, {'start': '2818.839', 'end': '2822.440', 'text': 'of situations arise.  Also, what I like'}, {'start': '2821.160', 'end': '2825.680', 'text': 'is, well, on the'}, {'start': '2822.440', 'end': '2828.480', 'text': 'positive side, what could be used'}, {'start': '2825.680', 'end': '2830.920', 'text': 'is, well, for example, reducing'}, {'start': '2828.480', 'end': '2833.240', 'text': 'manual workloads, that is, with these'}, {'start': '2830.920', 'end': '2836.640', 'text': 'exoskeletons and these mechanical things, you'}, {'start': '2833.240', 'end': '2838.000', 'text': 'no longer have to grind your'}, {'start': '2836.640', 'end': '2839.599', 'text': 'back.  Although there they also say,'}, {'start': '2838.000', 'end': '2841.960', 'text': '"Well, on the other hand, if your'}, {'start': '2839.599', 'end': '2843.920', 'text': "posture and these things don't help you"}, {'start': '2841.960', 'end': '2846.040', 'text': 'have good posture, then we come back'}, {'start': '2843.920', 'end': '2848.359', 'text': "to the same thing, right? You don't damage it because of the"}, {'start': '2846.040', 'end': '2850.640', 'text': "weight, you damage it because you're"}, {'start': '2848.359', 'end': '2852.720', 'text': 'hunching over in an inappropriate way.'}, {'start': '2850.640', 'end': '2855.599', 'text': "So, it seems to me that it's very well"}, {'start': '2852.720', 'end': '2858.400', 'text': "structured and that there's quite a bit there to"}, {'start': '2855.599', 'end': '2860.240', 'text': 'break down.'}, {'start': '2858.400', 'end': '2862.800', 'text': 'So, we have to continue'}, {'start': '2860.240', 'end': '2865.319', 'text': 'studying it. You have an exoskeleton'}, {'start': '2862.800', 'end': '2868.240', 'text': 'that makes your life easier because'}, {'start': '2865.319', 'end': '2870.359', 'text': 'your muscles no longer make the same'}, {'start': '2868.240', 'end': '2872.319', 'text': 'effort, but then they atrophy'}, {'start': '2870.359', 'end': '2874.599', 'text': "because they don't make the minimum effort"}, {'start': '2872.319', 'end': '2877.640', 'text': 'because the exoskeleton is doing what'}, {'start': '2874.599', 'end': '2879.160', 'text': 'your body should be doing, right?'}, {'start': '2877.640', 'end': '2882.280', 'text': "And in the end there's always going to be"}, {'start': '2879.160', 'end': '2884.319', 'text': "something that we don't think they do it"}, {'start': '2882.280', 'end': '2887.079', 'text': 'to make you more productive, but for'}, {'start': '2884.319', 'end': '2890.000', 'text': "health it's not the best. 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Let's"}, {'start': '2911.480', 'end': '2914.720', 'text': 'study what the consequences are.'}, {'start': '2913.160', 'end': '2918.160', 'text': 'At the end of the day, decision-making'}, {'start': '2914.720', 'end': '2921.160', 'text': 'is about what consequences I want to generate'}, {'start': '2918.160', 'end': '2922.800', 'text': 'and which ones I want to avoid.  We'}, {'start': '2921.160', 'end': '2926.760', 'text': 'humans have been doing that since humans have been'}, {'start': '2922.800', 'end': '2929.640', 'text': 'on Earth, although now we can'}, {'start': '2926.760', 'end': '2931.359', 'text': 'abstract it and do all the academic work and'}, {'start': '2929.640', 'end': '2933.119', 'text': 'write books, but at the end of the day'}, {'start': '2931.359', 'end': '2935.839', 'text': "it's that.  What consequences do I want and"}, {'start': '2933.119', 'end': '2937.680', 'text': 'which ones should I avoid with the use of all'}, {'start': '2935.839', 'end': '2939.880', 'text': 'these technologies?  I think'}, {'start': '2937.680', 'end': '2941.720', 'text': 'this study is very necessary.  So,'}, {'start': '2939.880', 'end': '2943.760', 'text': "yeah, take a look.  We'll put"}, {'start': '2941.720', 'end': '2946.319', 'text': "the link there for you to download.  It's in"}, {'start': '2943.760', 'end': '2948.440', 'text': "Spanish, it's free, and you can review it,"}, {'start': '2946.319', 'end': '2951.599', 'text': 'along with, obviously, the notes and'}, {'start': '2948.440', 'end': '2954.559', 'text': 'other stuff as we go, well,'}, {'start': '2951.599', 'end': '2958.319', 'text': 'diving deeper,'}, {'start': '2954.559', 'end': '2960.760', 'text': "let's say, into it."}, {'start': '2958.319', 'end': '2962.799', 'text': 'Very well, then we share it there.  And'}, {'start': '2960.760', 'end': '2965.680', 'text': 'let me close with a very, very'}, {'start': '2962.799', 'end': '2969.200', 'text': 'quick note that has to do with what'}, {'start': '2965.680', 'end': '2972.720', 'text': 'we talked about last week about how'}, {'start': '2969.200', 'end': '2974.640', 'text': 'Chat GPT is trying to diversify so as not to'}, {'start': '2972.720', 'end': '2976.559', 'text': 'miss out on a market in which the'}, {'start': '2974.640', 'end': '2978.520', 'text': 'big companies, the big'}, {'start': '2976.559', 'end': '2982.200', 'text': 'platforms, are,'}, {'start': '2978.520', 'end': '2985.200', 'text': 'well, they own the entire'}, {'start': '2982.200', 'end': '2988.720', 'text': 'technology business.  Chat GPT is trying to get in'}, {'start': '2985.200', 'end': '2990.760', 'text': 'there with the big giants'}, {'start': '2988.720', 'end': '2993.880', 'text': "and it's having a hard time.  Even"}, {'start': '2990.760', 'end': '2995.559', 'text': "though it's very successful right now, even"}, {'start': '2993.880', 'end': '2997.799', 'text': 'though right now when we talk about'}, {'start': '2995.559', 'end': '3000.599', 'text': 'generative artificial intelligence, we'}, {'start': '2997.799', 'end': '3004.440', 'text': 'all refer to Chatt, but'}, {'start': '3000.599', 'end': '3007.240', 'text': 'we know that due to events that have'}, {'start': '3004.440', 'end': '3010.520', 'text': 'happened in other times, that ca'}, {'start': '3007.240', 'end': '3011.720', 'text': "n't always be constant"}, {'start': '3010.520', 'end': '3013.200', 'text': 'because artificial intelligence is coming'}, {'start': '3011.720', 'end': '3015.599', 'text': '.'}, {'start': '3013.200', 'end': '3017.200', 'text': 'Everything you can put a'}, {'start': '3015.599', 'end': '3020.240', 'text': 'chip in will have'}, {'start': '3017.200', 'end': '3022.079', 'text': 'artificial intelligence, right?  I mean, if they'}, {'start': '3020.240', 'end': '3023.559', 'text': 'put a chip in your toilet later on, it'}, {'start': '3022.079', 'end': '3025.520', 'text': "'s going to have artificial intelligence and it"}, {'start': '3023.559', 'end': '3027.440', 'text': "'s going to take your temperature and you're"}, {'start': '3025.520', 'end': '3029.599', 'text': 'even going to be able to talk to it,'}, {'start': '3027.440', 'end': '3033.359', 'text': 'right?  So, well,'}, {'start': '3029.599', 'end': '3036.119', 'text': 'the note comes out a'}, {'start': '3033.359', 'end': '3040.839', 'text': 'little bit, this was not intended to be spread, but'}, {'start': '3036.119', 'end': '3044.319', 'text': 'well, it reached the major media'}, {'start': '3040.839', 'end': '3047.520', 'text': 'that Google pays Samsung a large'}, {'start': '3044.319', 'end': '3049.480', 'text': 'amount of money to pre-install'}, {'start': '3047.520', 'end': '3052.480', 'text': 'Gemini on its phones, this'}, {'start': '3049.480', 'end': '3054.480', 'text': 'artificial intelligence from Google that'}, {'start': '3052.480', 'end': '3058.160', 'text': 'will now be included in all'}, {'start': '3054.480', 'end': '3060.640', 'text': 'Samsung phones and is'}, {'start': '3058.160', 'end': '3062.400', 'text': 'for two years, starting in January.'}, {'start': '3060.640', 'end': '3065.160', 'text': 'So, for at least two years,'}, {'start': '3062.400', 'end': '3067.920', 'text': 'this artificial intelligence will be pre-installed'}, {'start': '3065.160', 'end': '3069.319', 'text': 'again, as we'}, {'start': '3067.920', 'end': '3072.119', 'text': 'mentioned, so that you no longer'}, {'start': '3069.319', 'end': '3074.880', 'text': 'install GPT chat, trying to'}, {'start': '3072.119', 'end': '3077.559', 'text': 'monopolize the'}, {'start': '3074.880', 'end': '3080.520', 'text': 'market again.  And what does Google say?  Well,'}, {'start': '3077.559', 'end': '3086.400', 'text': 'Google says, "Hey, but not just me.'}, {'start': '3080.520', 'end': '3090.240', 'text': 'This Perplexity AI, uh, is going to include its'}, {'start': '3086.400', 'end': '3092.920', 'text': 'chatbot on Motorola phones in a'}, {'start': '3090.240', 'end': '3095.599', 'text': 'matter of weeks.'}, {'start': '3092.920', 'end': '3099.240', 'text': 'This chatbot is going to come on all'}, {'start': '3095.599', 'end': '3100.839', 'text': "Motorola phones. Uh, and well, they're already"}, {'start': '3099.240', 'end': '3103.640', 'text': "burning themselves out, right? Also saying, it's not a"}, {'start': '3100.839', 'end': '3106.359', 'text': 'monopoly, there are other companies that are'}, {'start': '3103.640', 'end': '3109.280', 'text': 'partnering with other phones to'}, {'start': '3106.359', 'end': '3112.200', 'text': 'include these'}, {'start': '3109.280', 'end': '3116.400', 'text': 'artificial intelligences. 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To which the'}, {'start': '3150.880', 'end': '3156.000', 'text': 'technology experts said, well, I think'}, {'start': '3153.319', 'end': '3157.960', 'text': "with that you've lost me, now you"}, {'start': '3156.000', 'end': '3160.160', 'text': "'re telling me that you're going to"}, {'start': '3157.960', 'end': '3162.559', 'text': 'track everything I do, right?  And this,'}, {'start': '3160.160', 'end': '3164.319', 'text': 'of course, is going to have a huge impact on'}, {'start': '3162.559', 'end': '3167.520', 'text': 'whoever makes these'}, {'start': '3164.319', 'end': '3170.160', 'text': 'revelations.  There will be people who say,'}, {'start': '3167.520', 'end': '3173.000', 'text': 'well yes, if this intelligence is already here, it will be'}, {'start': '3170.160', 'end': '3176.680', 'text': 'able to know how I am, how I feel,'}, {'start': '3173.000', 'end': '3178.839', 'text': 'and maybe it will have to do'}, {'start': '3176.680', 'end': '3180.640', 'text': 'things to help me, right?  Maybe if he'}, {'start': '3178.839', 'end': '3184.559', 'text': "sees that I'm sad, maybe he'll"}, {'start': '3180.640', 'end': '3186.520', 'text': 'call my mom or buy me something.  There will'}, {'start': '3184.559', 'end': '3189.200', 'text': 'already be users who do like to'}, {'start': '3186.520', 'end': '3193.599', 'text': 'be monitored completely'}, {'start': '3189.200', 'end': '3196.119', 'text': 'to have a better service, right?  And'}, {'start': '3193.599', 'end': '3199.480', 'text': 'well, Google says that'}, {'start': '3196.119', 'end': '3202.640', 'text': 'Samsung is also in talks with Open AI and'}, {'start': '3199.480', 'end': '3204.599', 'text': 'Microsoft to see if they can put GPT chat'}, {'start': '3202.640', 'end': '3207.319', 'text': 'on their phones.  But anyway,'}, {'start': '3204.599', 'end': '3210.240', 'text': 'these are notes that complement what we'}, {'start': '3207.319', 'end': '3213.760', 'text': 'were saying, that at some point everything will'}, {'start': '3210.240', 'end': '3218.960', 'text': 'be invaded by these AIs, and then'}, {'start': '3213.760', 'end': '3221.079', 'text': "we won't know what to do"}, {'start': '3218.960', 'end': '3222.920', 'text': 'or how to do it because then, well,'}, {'start': '3221.079', 'end': '3224.720', 'text': 'do it yourself.'}, {'start': '3222.920', 'end': '3227.359', 'text': 'Exactly,'}, {'start': '3224.720', 'end': '3228.760', 'text': 'exactly.  In the end,'}, {'start': '3227.359', 'end': '3232.640', 'text': "yes, no, in the end what I'm going to say is"}, {'start': '3228.760', 'end': '3235.839', 'text': 'that in the end I think what is'}, {'start': '3232.640', 'end': '3238.680', 'text': 'lost is'}, {'start': '3235.839', 'end': '3241.240', 'text': 'critical thinking.  You'}, {'start': '3238.680', 'end': '3243.000', 'text': 'can use them, I mean, we all use them'}, {'start': '3241.240', 'end': '3245.359', 'text': 'and you can use them in different'}, {'start': '3243.000', 'end': '3247.839', 'text': "ways and it can be, that's why I was"}, {'start': '3245.359', 'end': '3249.760', 'text': 'also going to the topic of this report on'}, {'start': '3247.839', 'end': '3252.160', 'text': 'artificial intelligence at work, you'}, {'start': '3249.760', 'end': '3255.640', 'text': 'can use it for quite a few'}, {'start': '3252.160', 'end': '3258.799', 'text': 'important, interesting things, however, it'}, {'start': '3255.640', 'end': '3261.000', 'text': "doesn't seem like that's what we"}, {'start': '3258.799', 'end': '3264.880', 'text': 'have now, nor what we want.  That is to'}, {'start': '3261.000', 'end': '3267.160', 'text': 'say, there is a lack of alignment that,'}, {'start': '3264.880', 'end': '3268.440', 'text': 'well, there we would have to go into the'}, {'start': '3267.160', 'end': '3272.200', 'text': 'subject'}, {'start': '3268.440', 'end': '3275.400', 'text': 'of economics, political theory and a'}, {'start': '3272.200', 'end': '3277.119', 'text': 'lot of things that in 5 minutes, four'}, {'start': '3275.400', 'end': '3278.400', 'text': 'to close the program, are not going to give us.'}, {'start': '3277.119', 'end': '3279.839', 'text': 'If you want us to do it, we'}, {'start': '3278.400', 'end': '3281.680', 'text': 'can gladly explore the'}, {'start': '3279.839', 'end': '3284.720', 'text': 'following programs, we can explore them'}, {'start': '3281.680', 'end': '3287.640', 'text': 'on the blog, but for me it is, and'}, {'start': '3284.720', 'end': '3290.839', 'text': 'closing, it is, well, yes,'}, {'start': '3287.640', 'end': '3292.920', 'text': 'we also have to be very, very aware'}, {'start': '3290.839', 'end': '3294.920', 'text': 'of how we are using it and what the'}, {'start': '3292.920', 'end': '3297.119', 'text': 'objective is.  There was also an article'}, {'start': '3294.920', 'end': '3298.440', 'text': "there that I don't remember very well and I do"}, {'start': '3297.119', 'end': '3302.280', 'text': "n't know if I'm going to put it in the"}, {'start': '3298.440', 'end': '3304.720', 'text': 'show notes.  I mean, he was like, "Well, we\'re'}, {'start': '3302.280', 'end': '3306.680', 'text': 'focused on general intelligence,'}, {'start': '3304.720', 'end': '3308.079', 'text': "when we're going to get it and all that,"}, {'start': '3306.680', 'end': '3310.280', 'text': 'but we have to ask ourselves, what'}, {'start': '3308.079', 'end': '3312.839', 'text': '\'s the goal we want to achieve?"'}, {'start': '3310.280', 'end': '3315.440', 'text': 'So these questions will'}, {'start': '3312.839', 'end': '3318.359', 'text': 'always open consciousness to more'}, {'start': '3315.440', 'end': '3320.000', 'text': 'possibilities.  The consciousness that exists'}, {'start': '3318.359', 'end': '3323.119', 'text': 'now is human.  Whether'}, {'start': '3320.000', 'end': '3325.440', 'text': 'digital consciousness will exist or not, we do not know.'}, {'start': '3323.119', 'end': '3328.839', 'text': 'And we would have to review very carefully what'}, {'start': '3325.440', 'end': '3331.000', 'text': 'consciousness means, eh, not to make it'}, {'start': '3328.839', 'end': '3333.160', 'text': 'so esoteric, but rather, well, it'}, {'start': '3331.000', 'end': '3335.079', 'text': 'means being able to have these'}, {'start': '3333.160', 'end': '3336.839', 'text': 'levels, for example, of empathy, because it'}, {'start': '3335.079', 'end': '3339.640', 'text': 'is not reasoning, that is, it is not'}, {'start': '3336.839', 'end': '3342.839', 'text': 'understanding'}, {'start': '3339.640', 'end': '3345.799', 'text': 'complex concepts, it is something that goes beyond and that'}, {'start': '3342.839', 'end': '3347.960', 'text': 'has a much larger background.'}, {'start': '3345.799', 'end': '3349.119', 'text': "So, for me it's that and remembering"}, {'start': '3347.960', 'end': '3350.760', 'text': "that we have it, let's not"}, {'start': '3349.119', 'end': '3352.880', 'text': 'turn ourselves into machines and'}, {'start': '3350.760', 'end': '3355.480', 'text': 'expect machines to have'}, {'start': '3352.880', 'end': '3357.240', 'text': 'consciousness, because then'}, {'start': '3355.480', 'end': '3359.559', 'text': 'humanity will definitely'}, {'start': '3357.240', 'end': '3362.240', 'text': "start to be darker than what we're already"}, {'start': '3359.559', 'end': '3365.000', 'text': 'starting to see it is and we know that there are'}, {'start': '3362.240', 'end': '3366.359', 'text': 'historically very dark moments'}, {'start': '3365.000', 'end': '3368.400', 'text': 'as well.'}, {'start': '3366.359', 'end': '3372.480', 'text': "We'll already regret not saying"}, {'start': '3368.400', 'end': '3374.319', 'text': 'please and thank you when he arrives,'}, {'start': '3372.480', 'end': '3378.280', 'text': 'and among us, losing our'}, {'start': '3374.319', 'end': '3380.280', 'text': 'politeness is also part of it.'}, {'start': '3378.280', 'end': '3383.920', 'text': 'But anyway, the time has come to'}, {'start': '3380.280', 'end': '3389.640', 'text': 'say goodbye.  We arrived at the time that'}, {'start': '3383.920', 'end': '3391.400', 'text': 'is calculated to allow us to be'}, {'start': '3389.640', 'end': '3394.000', 'text': 'exact.'}, {'start': '3391.400', 'end': '3395.799', 'text': 'But anyway, thank you very much for'}, {'start': '3394.000', 'end': '3399.039', 'text': 'listening to us this week.  My'}, {'start': '3395.799', 'end': '3401.119', 'text': 'name is Rodrigo Bernardino and'}, {'start': '3399.039', 'end': '3402.920', 'text': "finally, let's be aware because this is"}, {'start': '3401.119', 'end': '3407.000', 'text': 'the only thing that'}, {'start': '3402.920', 'end': '3408.839', 'text': "artificial intelligence can't do yet."}, {'start': '3407.000', 'end': '3411.720', 'text': "That's how it is.  I was Ivala Mendoza, and please"}, {'start': '3408.839', 'end': '3414.680', 'text': 'send your comments, questions, and'}, {'start': '3411.720', 'end': '3416.760', 'text': 'concerns, so we can have this conversation,'}, {'start': '3414.680', 'end': '3419.960', 'text': 'which is so necessary in these'}, {'start': '3416.760', 'end': '3424.610', 'text': 'times and in the times to come.'}, {'start': '3419.960', 'end': '3431.530', 'text': 'Many thanks for everything.  See'}, {'start': '3424.610', 'end': '3431.530', 'text': 'you'}, {'start': '3433.039', 'end': '3437.039', 'text': 'later.  Digital.'}, {'start': '3444.640', 'end': '3451.110', 'text': 'Digital humanity.  Digital humanity.  Digital'}, {'start': '3448.039', 'end': '3456.360', 'text': 'humanity.  Digital humanity.'}, {'start': '3451.110', 'end': '3456.360', 'text': '[Music]'}]