Out! Trump aide ousted after ‘holy crap on steroids’ security breach over war plans
MSNBC
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Michael'}, {'start': '22.000', 'end': '27.119', 'text': 'Waltz out as national security adviser.'}, {'start': '25.359', 'end': '30.080', 'text': 'That is of course a key role typically'}, {'start': '27.119', 'end': '32.399', 'text': 'held for well longer than 100 days,'}, {'start': '30.080', 'end': '34.160', 'text': 'typically for years by seasoned national'}, {'start': '32.399', 'end': '36.880', 'text': "security vets. This move is Trump's"}, {'start': '34.160', 'end': '39.360', 'text': 'first major senior staffering change of'}, {'start': '36.880', 'end': '42.239', 'text': 'the second term coming just 48 days'}, {'start': '39.360', 'end': '44.239', 'text': "after Walt's first released discussion"}, {'start': '42.239', 'end': '47.440', 'text': 'internal discussion of war plans through'}, {'start': '44.239', 'end': '50.000', 'text': 'that app. Many experts said it was a'}, {'start': '47.440', 'end': '53.760', 'text': 'fireball offense at the time. It drew'}, {'start': '50.000', 'end': '55.280', 'text': 'magazine covers kind of reflecting and'}, {'start': '53.760', 'end': '56.960', 'text': 'really mocking'}, {'start': '55.280', 'end': '60.239', 'text': 'uh what was seen as an amateur-ish'}, {'start': '56.960', 'end': '61.760', 'text': 'mistake playing with larger risk.'}, {'start': '60.239', 'end': '63.680', 'text': 'National security experts said that'}, {'start': '61.760', 'end': '65.519', 'text': 'mistake literally made the United States'}, {'start': '63.680', 'end': '67.920', 'text': 'more vulnerable to massive foreign cyber'}, {'start': '65.519', 'end': '69.760', 'text': "attacks. Today's move shows how the"}, {'start': '67.920', 'end': '73.040', 'text': 'lingering scandal and the heat'}, {'start': '69.760', 'end': '75.680', 'text': 'ultimately proved too much at least for'}, {'start': '73.040', 'end': '78.159', 'text': 'the official to be in this post in the'}, {'start': '75.680', 'end': '80.479', 'text': 'Trump administration.'}, {'start': '78.159', 'end': '82.400', 'text': 'in editor and chief of the Atlantic,'}, {'start': '80.479', 'end': '84.880', 'text': 'Jeffrey Goldberg, says he was'}, {'start': '82.400', 'end': '86.320', 'text': "accidentally texted war plans. I don't"}, {'start': '84.880', 'end': '88.479', 'text': "know anything about it. I'm not a big"}, {'start': '86.320', 'end': '90.560', 'text': 'fan of The Atlantic. So, the person that'}, {'start': '88.479', 'end': '93.200', 'text': 'I thought was on there was never on'}, {'start': '90.560', 'end': '95.600', 'text': 'there. It was Who was that person? Well,'}, {'start': '93.200', 'end': '97.119', 'text': "I'm not. Look, Laura, I take I I take"}, {'start': '95.600', 'end': '98.400', 'text': "responsibility. Trump said it'll never"}, {'start': '97.119', 'end': '100.159', 'text': "happen again, and from now on, they'll"}, {'start': '98.400', 'end': '101.600', 'text': 'only talk about war plans over Snapchat.'}, {'start': '100.159', 'end': '103.920', 'text': "The White House and the president's"}, {'start': '101.600', 'end': '106.240', 'text': 'national security team doubling down on'}, {'start': '103.920', 'end': '108.479', 'text': 'efforts to shift blame surrounding that'}, {'start': '106.240', 'end': '110.479', 'text': 'signal chat debacle. Mike Wals, I guess'}, {'start': '108.479', 'end': '113.119', 'text': 'he said he claimed responsibility. I'}, {'start': '110.479', 'end': '116.000', 'text': "don't think he should apologize. I think"}, {'start': '113.119', 'end': '119.680', 'text': "he's doing his best."}, {'start': '116.000', 'end': '121.840', 'text': 'Maybe he was doing his best. The verdict'}, {'start': '119.680', 'end': '123.360', 'text': "is that it wasn't good enough. And so"}, {'start': '121.840', 'end': '125.119', 'text': 'those early defenses, you know, nothing'}, {'start': '123.360', 'end': '127.800', 'text': 'to apologize for at all, have melted'}, {'start': '125.119', 'end': '129.679', 'text': 'into a version of what passes for'}, {'start': '127.800', 'end': '132.160', 'text': 'accountability, even if it comes with'}, {'start': '129.679', 'end': '134.319', 'text': 'spin and is partial. Waltz is taking'}, {'start': '132.160', 'end': '136.840', 'text': 'another job for the Trump administration'}, {'start': '134.319', 'end': '139.200', 'text': 'in New York, representing America at the'}, {'start': '136.840', 'end': '140.959', 'text': 'UN. No permanent replacement has been'}, {'start': '139.200', 'end': '142.599', 'text': 'named today yet for Waltz, so Secretary'}, {'start': '140.959', 'end': '144.800', 'text': 'of State Rubio will be the temporary'}, {'start': '142.599', 'end': '146.560', 'text': 'backfill. It is the kind of shakeup'}, {'start': '144.800', 'end': '149.200', 'text': 'Trump has sought to avoid, the Times'}, {'start': '146.560', 'end': '151.440', 'text': 'reports. And while the UN can play of'}, {'start': '149.200', 'end': '153.840', 'text': 'course important roles, Trump and'}, {'start': '151.440', 'end': '157.040', 'text': 'Republicans have routinely belittled it'}, {'start': '153.840', 'end': '159.599', 'text': 'as something like a world monitor. So'}, {'start': '157.040', 'end': '161.840', 'text': 'being sent up to New York to meet with'}, {'start': '159.599', 'end': '164.879', 'text': 'those foreign diplomats outside of the'}, {'start': '161.840', 'end': '167.440', 'text': 'circles of power in Washington is in a'}, {'start': '164.879', 'end': '169.200', 'text': 'MAGA sense viewed as a demotion. There'}, {'start': '167.440', 'end': '170.560', 'text': 'are signs Waltz himself heard about this'}, {'start': '169.200', 'end': '172.560', 'text': 'very last minute. He was on the White'}, {'start': '170.560', 'end': '174.959', 'text': 'House grounds. We could see there this'}, {'start': '172.560', 'end': '177.200', 'text': 'morning after doing a TV interview and'}, {'start': '174.959', 'end': '179.680', 'text': 'after some tough headlines about this'}, {'start': '177.200', 'end': '182.080', 'text': 'change started trickling out. The White'}, {'start': '179.680', 'end': '184.879', 'text': 'House then announced he would take this'}, {'start': '182.080', 'end': '187.920', 'text': 'UN vacancy. There he was today. The'}, {'start': '184.879', 'end': '191.200', 'text': 'signal breach cost Walt his job. So it'}, {'start': '187.920', 'end': '193.519', 'text': 'is notable that he was just caught using'}, {'start': '191.200', 'end': '196.480', 'text': 'signal in an open press gathering of the'}, {'start': '193.519', 'end': '198.879', 'text': 'cabinet again this week. This is a'}, {'start': '196.480', 'end': '201.840', 'text': 'Reuters uh news photographer who'}, {'start': '198.879', 'end': '204.400', 'text': 'captured his hands you see there. Now,'}, {'start': '201.840', 'end': '206.239', 'text': 'experienced people know when you go to'}, {'start': '204.400', 'end': '209.680', 'text': 'the open section of the cabinet meeting,'}, {'start': '206.239', 'end': '211.120', 'text': "the mic is on. It's it's on the record,"}, {'start': '209.680', 'end': '213.040', 'text': 'as they say, and the cameras and the'}, {'start': '211.120', 'end': '214.640', 'text': 'photographers are quite visibly there.'}, {'start': '213.040', 'end': '217.040', 'text': 'Yet, this Reuters photographer was still'}, {'start': '214.640', 'end': '219.280', 'text': 'able to capture him opening his signal'}, {'start': '217.040', 'end': '220.879', 'text': 'app and including what he lists as'}, {'start': '219.280', 'end': '222.720', 'text': 'apparently real names of high-ranking'}, {'start': '220.879', 'end': '224.239', 'text': "officials. They're not using code names"}, {'start': '222.720', 'end': '227.360', 'text': 'here. has references on his phone to'}, {'start': '224.239', 'end': '230.560', 'text': 'what looks like Rubio Gabbard and JD'}, {'start': '227.360', 'end': '232.640', 'text': 'Vance. You see there the phone exposed a'}, {'start': '230.560', 'end': '234.400', 'text': 'message from the sender named JD Vance'}, {'start': '232.640', 'end': '236.720', 'text': 'which said he had quote confirmation'}, {'start': '234.400', 'end': '238.640', 'text': "from a counterpart and quote it's turned"}, {'start': '236.720', 'end': '239.680', 'text': "off. That's what we could read on it."}, {'start': '238.640', 'end': '241.840', 'text': 'Those are fragments of the'}, {'start': '239.680', 'end': '243.599', 'text': 'communications. They could mean a lot'}, {'start': '241.840', 'end': '246.799', 'text': 'more to certain foreign adversaries who'}, {'start': '243.599', 'end': '248.480', 'text': 'can combine them with other intel. So'}, {'start': '246.799', 'end': '250.959', 'text': 'that was his last cabinet meeting as'}, {'start': '248.480', 'end': '252.799', 'text': 'national security adviser. And to be'}, {'start': '250.959', 'end': '255.920', 'text': 'clear, like the security breaches that'}, {'start': '252.799', 'end': '258.639', 'text': 'dogged his now short tenure, it might be'}, {'start': '255.920', 'end': '260.000', 'text': 'remembered more for that kind of sloppy'}, {'start': '258.639', 'end': '261.759', 'text': 'approach to security than the'}, {'start': '260.000', 'end': '264.120', 'text': 'boilerplate statements he made during'}, {'start': '261.759', 'end': '266.479', 'text': 'it, praising the'}, {'start': '264.120', 'end': '269.120', 'text': 'president. This is leadership at its'}, {'start': '266.479', 'end': '271.840', 'text': 'finest, led by our commanderin-chief,'}, {'start': '269.120', 'end': '274.800', 'text': 'who loves the troops and they love him.'}, {'start': '271.840', 'end': '278.080', 'text': "We've had a 100 days of your leadership"}, {'start': '274.800', 'end': '280.880', 'text': "with with respect uh with strength. It's"}, {'start': '278.080', 'end': '283.199', 'text': 'an honor uh to serve you in this'}, {'start': '280.880', 'end': '288.000', 'text': 'administration. Uh and I think the world'}, {'start': '283.199', 'end': '290.160', 'text': 'is far better, far safer uh for it.'}, {'start': '288.000', 'end': '291.919', 'text': 'Whether the world is safer remains to be'}, {'start': '290.160', 'end': '295.199', 'text': "seen, but the Trump administration's"}, {'start': '291.919', 'end': '298.240', 'text': 'impact on safety and creating safety'}, {'start': '295.199', 'end': '300.240', 'text': 'risks out of whole cloth is what got'}, {'start': '298.240', 'end': '302.080', 'text': 'Waltz ousted so quickly. I mean, again,'}, {'start': '300.240', 'end': '303.639', 'text': 'if you think about these jobs are'}, {'start': '302.080', 'end': '306.800', 'text': 'probably hard to do,'}, {'start': '303.639', 'end': '308.400', 'text': 'but if you just did nothing, you might'}, {'start': '306.800', 'end': '310.240', 'text': 'have had less of an impact than how much'}, {'start': '308.400', 'end': '312.080', 'text': 'he leaked about war plans. Now, another'}, {'start': '310.240', 'end': '314.560', 'text': 'shortlived Trump aid you might remember'}, {'start': '312.080', 'end': '316.240', 'text': 'on your screen there, Anthony Scormucci.'}, {'start': '314.560', 'end': '318.160', 'text': 'Well, he got in a little jab roasting'}, {'start': '316.240', 'end': '320.199', 'text': 'his fellow MAGA traveler when this news'}, {'start': '318.160', 'end': '323.160', 'text': 'hit today, noting Waltz has now served'}, {'start': '320.199', 'end': '325.680', 'text': 'about 9.2'}, {'start': '323.160', 'end': '327.600', 'text': 'Scaramucci as a unit of time for people'}, {'start': '325.680', 'end': '330.240', 'text': "who don't hold down these jobs very"}, {'start': '327.600', 'end': '332.639', 'text': "long. Now that's the tumult inside the"}, {'start': '330.240', 'end': '335.400', 'text': 'White House. And it is just one job,'}, {'start': '332.639', 'end': '339.919', 'text': 'albeit an important one, that reinforces'}, {'start': '335.400', 'end': '341.800', 'text': 'how facts matter. It was the fact of'}, {'start': '339.919', 'end': '346.080', 'text': 'sharing the war'}, {'start': '341.800', 'end': '347.520', 'text': "plans covered, documented, sort of can't"}, {'start': '346.080', 'end': '350.479', 'text': 'really spin or deny your way out of'}, {'start': '347.520', 'end': '352.880', 'text': 'that. And then the story lasting, people'}, {'start': '350.479', 'end': '354.240', 'text': 'staying on it that ultimately changed'}, {'start': '352.880', 'end': '356.160', 'text': "the staffing. Now, that's just one"}, {'start': '354.240', 'end': '357.440', 'text': 'position, an important one, but it'}, {'start': '356.160', 'end': '358.800', 'text': 'reminds you that while the'}, {'start': '357.440', 'end': '360.080', 'text': 'administration and some of the folks'}, {'start': '358.800', 'end': '361.840', 'text': 'around them say they use their own'}, {'start': '360.080', 'end': '363.240', 'text': 'reality or nothing matters or the press'}, {'start': '361.840', 'end': '366.880', 'text': "doesn't matter anymore, this was"}, {'start': '363.240', 'end': '368.880', 'text': 'entirely a product of the facts, the'}, {'start': '366.880', 'end': '371.440', 'text': 'reporting, and the sustained pressure'}, {'start': '368.880', 'end': '373.520', 'text': 'around the nation. Trump continues to be'}, {'start': '371.440', 'end': '376.000', 'text': 'really facing a souring economy and a'}, {'start': '373.520', 'end': '377.520', 'text': 'trade war that is hurting him. And for'}, {'start': '376.000', 'end': '379.919', 'text': 'all the talk about Republicans who move'}, {'start': '377.520', 'end': '381.759', 'text': 'with lockstep loyalty that you know Ted'}, {'start': '379.919', 'end': '384.400', 'text': 'Cruz will stand by Donald Trump once he'}, {'start': '381.759', 'end': '386.000', 'text': 'won and never push back and Trump has'}, {'start': '384.400', 'end': '388.319', 'text': 'benefited from that type of support at'}, {'start': '386.000', 'end': '390.319', 'text': "times. It's also notable right now that"}, {'start': '388.319', 'end': '393.120', 'text': 'Donald Trump has picked a giant fight'}, {'start': '390.319', 'end': '395.680', 'text': "that's still going on with a rightle"}, {'start': '393.120', 'end': '397.039', 'text': "leaning group that isn't rolling over."}, {'start': '395.680', 'end': '398.800', 'text': "I'm talking about financial"}, {'start': '397.039', 'end': '400.080', 'text': 'conservatives and Wall Street and people'}, {'start': '398.800', 'end': '402.319', 'text': 'involved in all that work because'}, {'start': '400.080', 'end': '403.759', 'text': "they're alarmed over the costly tariffs"}, {'start': '402.319', 'end': '405.919', 'text': 'that are driving the economy down,'}, {'start': '403.759', 'end': '407.400', 'text': 'shrinking gross domestic product, which'}, {'start': '405.919', 'end': '410.479', 'text': 'is a warning sign for a possible'}, {'start': '407.400', 'end': '413.039', 'text': "recession. Fox News's sister outlet, the"}, {'start': '410.479', 'end': '415.440', 'text': 'New York Post, skewering Trump today for'}, {'start': '413.039', 'end': '418.000', 'text': 'hiking toy prices with his tariffs and'}, {'start': '415.440', 'end': '420.560', 'text': 'then trying to minimize it all. Skimp on'}, {'start': '418.000', 'end': '423.440', 'text': 'the Barbie is how the front page is'}, {'start': '420.560', 'end': '425.680', 'text': 'mocking the president. And it is still'}, {'start': '423.440', 'end': '428.000', 'text': 'the economy stupid as James Carville'}, {'start': '425.680', 'end': '430.319', 'text': 'memorably put it. And the point there is'}, {'start': '428.000', 'end': '432.880', 'text': 'is not just that the economy can drive'}, {'start': '430.319', 'end': '436.319', 'text': "election outcomes. It's that the economy"}, {'start': '432.880', 'end': '438.800', 'text': 'just sets the baseline mood. In boom'}, {'start': '436.319', 'end': '440.720', 'text': 'times, people may look the other way.'}, {'start': '438.800', 'end': '442.560', 'text': 'But when things go bust like they have'}, {'start': '440.720', 'end': '444.960', 'text': 'under these tariffs, the nation takes a'}, {'start': '442.560', 'end': '446.720', 'text': 'more skeptical look at its government.'}, {'start': '444.960', 'end': '449.280', 'text': 'And people are now hearing facts about'}, {'start': '446.720', 'end': '450.800', 'text': "Trump's stumbling 100 days, which is"}, {'start': '449.280', 'end': '452.960', 'text': 'clearly driving opposition, as I'}, {'start': '450.800', 'end': '454.800', 'text': 'mentioned in conservative media like the'}, {'start': '452.960', 'end': '456.759', 'text': 'Post, in financial quarters, and then'}, {'start': '454.800', 'end': '460.720', 'text': 'really across the country here. These'}, {'start': '456.759', 'end': '462.520', 'text': 'are really stunningly negative'}, {'start': '460.720', 'end': '465.680', 'text': 'underwater'}, {'start': '462.520', 'end': '467.680', 'text': 'results for Donald Trump. You look at'}, {'start': '465.680', 'end': '469.840', 'text': 'this on your screen, we are a long ways'}, {'start': '467.680', 'end': '471.720', 'text': 'from his November comeback. Underwater'}, {'start': '469.840', 'end': '474.919', 'text': 'at all major polls, down'}, {'start': '471.720', 'end': '477.479', 'text': "11% in Fox News. So that's the"}, {'start': '474.919', 'end': '479.840', 'text': "temperature. Then there's the political"}, {'start': '477.479', 'end': '481.360', 'text': 'thermostat because we are in a dynamic'}, {'start': '479.840', 'end': '483.360', 'text': 'process. There are those who think you'}, {'start': '481.360', 'end': '485.199', 'text': "should just give up or tune out and it's"}, {'start': '483.360', 'end': '487.919', 'text': 'a free country. You could do that. But'}, {'start': '485.199', 'end': '489.759', 'text': 'there are others like the signs we see'}, {'start': '487.919', 'end': '491.039', 'text': 'at some of these protests today. This'}, {'start': '489.759', 'end': '493.680', 'text': 'one in Michigan. You voted for'}, {'start': '491.039', 'end': '496.080', 'text': 'democracy, not dictatorship, that are'}, {'start': '493.680', 'end': '499.440', 'text': 'trying to summon the moment to build'}, {'start': '496.080', 'end': '501.960', 'text': 'something larger. In California, we saw'}, {'start': '499.440', 'end': '504.759', 'text': 'a sign that simply says, "We the'}, {'start': '501.960', 'end': '507.840', 'text': 'people deserve'}, {'start': '504.759', 'end': '509.759', 'text': 'better. Thousands were seen gathering in'}, {'start': '507.840', 'end': '512.240', 'text': 'Boston, in Washington, in San Francisco,'}, {'start': '509.759', 'end': '514.560', 'text': 'and Chicago." These are new rallies. So,'}, {'start': '512.240', 'end': '516.000', 'text': "if you're watching live on television or"}, {'start': '514.560', 'end': '518.240', 'text': "on YouTube, you're seeing things that"}, {'start': '516.000', 'end': '519.599', 'text': "are happening now. Today's news, but it"}, {'start': '518.240', 'end': '521.039', 'text': 'might look familiar because over the'}, {'start': '519.599', 'end': '523.519', 'text': "last several weeks, we've covered a"}, {'start': '521.039', 'end': '525.360', 'text': 'bunch of similar scenes. smaller groups'}, {'start': '523.519', 'end': '527.120', 'text': 'in small towns, some of them in'}, {'start': '525.360', 'end': '528.560', 'text': 'conservative and red states, larger'}, {'start': '527.120', 'end': '530.959', 'text': 'gatherings in the large cities. Of'}, {'start': '528.560', 'end': '533.279', 'text': "course, it's a pro ratta per capita type"}, {'start': '530.959', 'end': '535.760', 'text': 'thing, but this keeps happening. More of'}, {'start': '533.279', 'end': '538.720', 'text': "a grounds swell than we've seen in most"}, {'start': '535.760', 'end': '540.160', 'text': 'administrations early periods. The'}, {'start': '538.720', 'end': '543.120', 'text': 'shrinking economy also drawing'}, {'start': '540.160', 'end': '546.399', 'text': 'comparisons to a very memorable Seinfeld'}, {'start': '543.120', 'end': '548.560', 'text': 'episode featuring George Castanza.'}, {'start': '546.399', 'end': '551.600', 'text': 'So Jimmy Fallon brought this up on late'}, {'start': '548.560', 'end': '554.160', 'text': "night discussing Trump's trade war"}, {'start': '551.600', 'end': '556.800', 'text': 'leaning to economic shrinkage to that'}, {'start': '554.160', 'end': '559.760', 'text': 'shrinking GDP I mentioned and likening'}, {'start': '556.800', 'end': '561.279', 'text': "it to George's troubles."}, {'start': '559.760', 'end': '562.560', 'text': 'Shrank.'}, {'start': '561.279', 'end': '563.920', 'text': 'Trump was like, "Well, it was the three'}, {'start': '562.560', 'end': '565.760', 'text': 'coldest months. Of course it was'}, {'start': '563.920', 'end': '568.080', 'text': 'shrinkage."'}, {'start': '565.760', 'end': '570.080', 'text': 'Yes. The US economy is undergoing what'}, {'start': '568.080', 'end': '571.800', 'text': 'economists refer to as a George'}, {'start': '570.080', 'end': '573.760', 'text': 'Castanza.'}, {'start': '571.800', 'end': '576.440', 'text': '[Applause]'}, {'start': '573.760', 'end': '579.839', 'text': 'You can see the shrinkage got everybody'}, {'start': '576.440', 'end': '582.320', 'text': 'thinking. But the joke only works,'}, {'start': '579.839', 'end': '584.920', 'text': 'especially in mass late night shows, if'}, {'start': '582.320', 'end': '587.040', 'text': 'everybody is in on the'}, {'start': '584.920', 'end': '588.800', 'text': 'punchline. A lot of folks watch late'}, {'start': '587.040', 'end': '590.399', 'text': 'night, including people rooting for'}, {'start': '588.800', 'end': '592.800', 'text': 'Trump, including Republicans or'}, {'start': '590.399', 'end': '596.000', 'text': 'conservatives and what have you. But the'}, {'start': '592.800', 'end': '598.120', 'text': 'facts still matter. And if you dare to'}, {'start': '596.000', 'end': '600.760', 'text': 'tell people that the economy is not'}, {'start': '598.120', 'end': '603.839', 'text': 'shrinking, that the trade'}, {'start': '600.760', 'end': '605.279', 'text': 'war is working, you are going to run'}, {'start': '603.839', 'end': '607.040', 'text': 'right into the brick wall, which Trump'}, {'start': '605.279', 'end': '611.040', 'text': 'has run into in this polling I showed'}, {'start': '607.040', 'end': '611.040', 'text': 'you, because people are living'}]