Gaming for God’s Glory - One Day Closer
Lighthouse TV
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His team turned to'}, {'start': '53.920', 'end': '58.320', 'text': 'the online streaming and video game'}, {'start': '55.840', 'end': '61.079', 'text': 'platform Twitch, inviting gamers to'}, {'start': '58.320', 'end': '63.520', 'text': 'engage in conversation about faith while'}, {'start': '61.079', 'end': '65.519', 'text': 'playing. The response was remarkable.'}, {'start': '63.520', 'end': '68.479', 'text': 'Teams who avoided spiritual discussions'}, {'start': '65.519', 'end': '71.439', 'text': 'in person, began to open up for hours'}, {'start': '68.479', 'end': '73.760', 'text': 'while gaming. Gaming platforms are'}, {'start': '71.439', 'end': '76.400', 'text': 'teameing with people who are spiritually'}, {'start': '73.760', 'end': '79.360', 'text': 'hungry but are also battling isolation'}, {'start': '76.400', 'end': '82.000', 'text': 'and hopelessness. Esports pro Stefano'}, {'start': '79.360', 'end': '84.240', 'text': 'Dalvo has witnessed the toxic side of'}, {'start': '82.000', 'end': '86.479', 'text': 'gaming. He said that many teenage gamers'}, {'start': '84.240', 'end': '88.479', 'text': 'are escaping from their own reality and'}, {'start': '86.479', 'end': '90.080', 'text': 'and kind of taking out that anger,'}, {'start': '88.479', 'end': '93.119', 'text': 'taking out that depression on other'}, {'start': '90.080', 'end': '95.520', 'text': 'people online. It can create this toxic'}, {'start': '93.119', 'end': '97.680', 'text': 'environment at times. And as we think'}, {'start': '95.520', 'end': '100.640', 'text': 'about that, that may be a reason for'}, {'start': '97.680', 'end': '103.200', 'text': 'some people to avoid esports. Or it may'}, {'start': '100.640', 'end': '105.040', 'text': 'be a reason to enter that space to reach'}, {'start': '103.200', 'end': '106.960', 'text': 'people for Jesus. Rather than'}, {'start': '105.040', 'end': '109.799', 'text': 'retreating, believers are called to step'}, {'start': '106.960', 'end': '113.600', 'text': 'into broken spaces, offering hope and'}, {'start': '109.799', 'end': '116.799', 'text': 'community. Approximately 3.26 billion'}, {'start': '113.600', 'end': '119.119', 'text': 'people worldwide wide play video games.'}, {'start': '116.799', 'end': '121.439', 'text': 'And almost 70% of US households have at'}, {'start': '119.119', 'end': '122.960', 'text': 'least one member who plays video games'}, {'start': '121.439', 'end': '125.680', 'text': 'regularly.'}, {'start': '122.960', 'end': '129.280', 'text': 'This is a unique opportunity in the'}, {'start': '125.680', 'end': '131.200', 'text': 'gaming arena to evangelize by engaging'}, {'start': '129.280', 'end': '133.040', 'text': 'directly with gamers, meeting them where'}, {'start': '131.200', 'end': '135.520', 'text': 'they are and guiding them toward the'}, {'start': '133.040', 'end': '137.200', 'text': 'good news of Jesus in an environment'}, {'start': '135.520', 'end': '139.599', 'text': 'where they where they feel comfortable'}, {'start': '137.200', 'end': '141.360', 'text': "and connected. We're going to learn more"}, {'start': '139.599', 'end': '143.680', 'text': 'about this exciting opportunity on'}, {'start': '141.360', 'end': '145.840', 'text': "today's show. We'll be meeting with a"}, {'start': '143.680', 'end': '148.000', 'text': 'man who will help us explore what it'}, {'start': '145.840', 'end': '150.800', 'text': "looks like to use gaming for God's"}, {'start': '148.000', 'end': '152.319', 'text': "glory. You're watching One Day Closer,"}, {'start': '150.800', 'end': '154.640', 'text': "where we're learning together how to use"}, {'start': '152.319', 'end': '157.040', 'text': 'our One Day Closer to eternity to bring'}, {'start': '154.640', 'end': '158.920', 'text': "hope and purpose to many. Let's go meet"}, {'start': '157.040', 'end': '164.599', 'text': 'our guest for'}, {'start': '158.920', 'end': '167.440', 'text': '[Music]'}, {'start': '164.599', 'end': '169.599', 'text': "today. We're here in studio with Brendan"}, {'start': '167.440', 'end': '172.080', 'text': "O'Brien, the founder and president of"}, {'start': '169.599', 'end': '174.560', 'text': 'Slingshot Esports.'}, {'start': '172.080', 'end': '177.200', 'text': "Brendan, it's so exciting to have you on"}, {'start': '174.560', 'end': '179.519', 'text': 'the show and to hear about this creative'}, {'start': '177.200', 'end': '180.959', 'text': "way that you're bringing Christ to"}, {'start': '179.519', 'end': '182.560', 'text': 'people. Thank you so much for being'}, {'start': '180.959', 'end': '184.720', 'text': "here. Thanks for having me. It's an"}, {'start': '182.560', 'end': '186.720', 'text': "honor to be here. That's great. And"}, {'start': '184.720', 'end': '188.400', 'text': "Brian, let's Brendan, as we start, let's"}, {'start': '186.720', 'end': '191.120', 'text': 'just talk about um share a little bit'}, {'start': '188.400', 'end': '193.519', 'text': 'about yourself and and your family.'}, {'start': '191.120', 'end': '195.680', 'text': "Sure. My wife and I, we've got two kids."}, {'start': '193.519', 'end': '199.040', 'text': 'Our oldest is our daughter, Reagan. She'}, {'start': '195.680', 'end': '203.360', 'text': 'will be 28 soon. And our youngest is our'}, {'start': '199.040', 'end': '206.319', 'text': "son. He is 25. They're both married."}, {'start': '203.360', 'end': '208.159', 'text': 'They are out of the house. So, the only'}, {'start': '206.319', 'end': '210.959', 'text': 'only thing left in the house is our dog,'}, {'start': '208.159', 'end': '212.799', 'text': "right? So, the wife and I, my wife's"}, {'start': '210.959', 'end': '215.040', 'text': 'name is Jen. We are just figuring out'}, {'start': '212.799', 'end': '218.000', 'text': 'this whole empty nest thing, but'}, {'start': '215.040', 'end': '219.599', 'text': "enjoying it as well. Yeah, that's great."}, {'start': '218.000', 'end': '222.400', 'text': 'And using it in some awesome ways as'}, {'start': '219.599', 'end': '224.560', 'text': "we're going to learn about. And so you"}, {'start': '222.400', 'end': '226.799', 'text': 'went uh to school, you were a Christian'}, {'start': '224.560', 'end': '229.519', 'text': "educator, you're a Christian teacher,"}, {'start': '226.799', 'end': '232.080', 'text': 'and then you shifted, you were with Push'}, {'start': '229.519', 'end': '235.280', 'text': 'the Rock doing physical sports, and then'}, {'start': '232.080', 'end': '237.040', 'text': 'there was a transition to esports. So'}, {'start': '235.280', 'end': '239.760', 'text': 'tell me a little bit about that. What'}, {'start': '237.040', 'end': '244.480', 'text': 'was that like to transition to esports?'}, {'start': '239.760', 'end': '247.680', 'text': "Yeah. So it's challenging. There is a"}, {'start': '244.480', 'end': '250.959', 'text': 'mindset that video games and gaming and'}, {'start': '247.680', 'end': '253.680', 'text': 'screen time is bad. Yeah. And so to'}, {'start': '250.959', 'end': '257.759', 'text': 'enter that space intentionally was a'}, {'start': '253.680', 'end': '259.720', 'text': 'challenge. Really was a challenge. Wow.'}, {'start': '257.759', 'end': '263.120', 'text': 'And what'}, {'start': '259.720', 'end': '266.000', 'text': 'um what was gaming like in your family'}, {'start': '263.120', 'end': '268.880', 'text': 'growing up? So gaming had kind of a'}, {'start': '266.000', 'end': '271.600', 'text': 'meaningful uh place in your life with'}, {'start': '268.880', 'end': '273.759', 'text': 'your kids grow. Yeah. Correct. So, when'}, {'start': '271.600', 'end': '275.840', 'text': 'our kids were younger, all four of us'}, {'start': '273.759', 'end': '278.080', 'text': "would play video games together and we'd"}, {'start': '275.840', 'end': '280.400', 'text': "play racing games because it's easy for"}, {'start': '278.080', 'end': '282.479', 'text': 'my wife to go forward, backward, left,'}, {'start': '280.400', 'end': '283.840', 'text': 'right, right, gas, break, like, you'}, {'start': '282.479', 'end': '286.320', 'text': 'know, those all the buttons that we'}, {'start': '283.840', 'end': '288.720', 'text': 'needed. And so, it was a it was a family'}, {'start': '286.320', 'end': '292.160', 'text': 'time, a little bit of trash talking'}, {'start': '288.720', 'end': '293.600', 'text': 'among among some of us. Uh, but it was'}, {'start': '292.160', 'end': '296.800', 'text': 'it was a meaningful time where we could'}, {'start': '293.600', 'end': '300.040', 'text': 'get together, have fun, and just enjoy'}, {'start': '296.800', 'end': '304.000', 'text': 'being a family. Mhm. And then as you'}, {'start': '300.040', 'end': '305.199', 'text': "moved more into well well maybe didn't"}, {'start': '304.000', 'end': '307.600', 'text': "transition but you're in a physical"}, {'start': '305.199', 'end': '310.320', 'text': 'sports arena with Push the Rock. Your'}, {'start': '307.600', 'end': '311.840', 'text': 'son really gets into gaming in college'}, {'start': '310.320', 'end': '313.360', 'text': 'right and that caused maybe a little bit'}, {'start': '311.840', 'end': '315.039', 'text': 'of tension. Tell me a little about that'}, {'start': '313.360', 'end': '317.919', 'text': 'tension that you kind of experienced'}, {'start': '315.039', 'end': '322.000', 'text': 'with his his passion for gaming. Yeah.'}, {'start': '317.919', 'end': '324.240', 'text': 'So while the rest of us kind of faded'}, {'start': '322.000', 'end': '326.800', 'text': 'away from video games, our son Keegan,'}, {'start': '324.240', 'end': '329.120', 'text': 'he still kept playing. And late high'}, {'start': '326.800', 'end': '332.240', 'text': 'school, early college, he would play'}, {'start': '329.120', 'end': '334.800', 'text': 'late at night. Yeah. So, and so from his'}, {'start': '332.240', 'end': '336.720', 'text': 'room, we could hear the excitement. We'}, {'start': '334.800', 'end': '339.360', 'text': 'could hear the disappointment. We heard'}, {'start': '336.720', 'end': '342.080', 'text': "it all. So, we're trying to sleep now,"}, {'start': '339.360', 'end': '344.160', 'text': 'my wife and I, and all this chaos is'}, {'start': '342.080', 'end': '346.240', 'text': 'going on. So, I would go down to his'}, {'start': '344.160', 'end': '348.800', 'text': 'room and I would say, "Hey, can you get'}, {'start': '346.240', 'end': '351.600', 'text': 'quiet?" and he would be compliant be'}, {'start': '348.800', 'end': '353.039', 'text': 'crate for that night and then it happens'}, {'start': '351.600', 'end': '354.479', 'text': 'the next night and then it happens the'}, {'start': '353.039', 'end': '358.080', 'text': 'next night and then it happens the next'}, {'start': '354.479', 'end': '361.280', 'text': 'night and over lots of time it got'}, {'start': '358.080', 'end': '364.240', 'text': 'frustrating. Yeah. So I did some dumb'}, {'start': '361.280', 'end': '365.840', 'text': 'things. I pulled the power cord to his'}, {'start': '364.240', 'end': '368.080', 'text': 'monitor to help him understand how'}, {'start': '365.840', 'end': '370.080', 'text': 'serious I was while being quiet. Um that'}, {'start': '368.080', 'end': '372.720', 'text': "didn't work. I pulled the power cord to"}, {'start': '370.080', 'end': '375.199', 'text': 'his PS4 which I thought that would'}, {'start': '372.720', 'end': '377.039', 'text': 'really help him understand and it it did'}, {'start': '375.199', 'end': '379.039', 'text': 'not. It did not. thought those kind of'}, {'start': '377.039', 'end': '382.479', 'text': 'tactics worked great. No, it just'}, {'start': '379.039', 'end': '385.440', 'text': 'created stress and tension between me'}, {'start': '382.479', 'end': '387.919', 'text': 'and our son and then that just flowed'}, {'start': '385.440', 'end': '390.479', 'text': 'throughout the rest of the house. Yeah.'}, {'start': '387.919', 'end': '392.080', 'text': 'And and you know, as kids get older,'}, {'start': '390.479', 'end': '394.960', 'text': "right, when they're younger, we have a"}, {'start': '392.080', 'end': '397.360', 'text': 'lot more control and then that control'}, {'start': '394.960', 'end': '399.759', 'text': 'shifts to influence.'}, {'start': '397.360', 'end': '402.479', 'text': "And so how do you your son's in college"}, {'start': '399.759', 'end': '404.800', 'text': "now, he's an adult, and you're"}, {'start': '402.479', 'end': '408.000', 'text': "recognizing that those tactics aren't"}, {'start': '404.800', 'end': '410.319', 'text': 'working as far as helping your'}, {'start': '408.000', 'end': '412.240', 'text': 'relationship with Keegan. So how does'}, {'start': '410.319', 'end': '414.000', 'text': 'God kind of shift that to say, "Wow,'}, {'start': '412.240', 'end': '416.639', 'text': 'maybe I could approach this a little'}, {'start': '414.000', 'end': '418.880', 'text': 'differently." Yeah, great question. So I'}, {'start': '416.639', 'end': '421.280', 'text': 'remember vividly like I was, it was a'}, {'start': '418.880', 'end': '423.199', 'text': 'Saturday afternoon. I was just minding'}, {'start': '421.280', 'end': '425.440', 'text': 'my own business, scrolling on my phone'}, {'start': '423.199', 'end': '427.759', 'text': 'for something, looking for something.'}, {'start': '425.440', 'end': '429.840', 'text': 'And I think God touched me. He was like,'}, {'start': '427.759', 'end': '431.599', 'text': '"Go see what\'s going on up there." All'}, {'start': '429.840', 'end': '433.759', 'text': 'right. So, I went upstairs to his room'}, {'start': '431.599', 'end': '435.599', 'text': 'and he was playing with his friends. And'}, {'start': '433.759', 'end': '437.840', 'text': 'I stood behind his screen and just'}, {'start': '435.599', 'end': '439.840', 'text': 'waited patiently till he was done. And'}, {'start': '437.840', 'end': '441.520', 'text': 'when he was done, he motioned me around'}, {'start': '439.840', 'end': '443.520', 'text': 'so I could come and see what he was'}, {'start': '441.520', 'end': '446.400', 'text': 'doing. And I just say, "What\'s going on?'}, {'start': '443.520', 'end': '447.680', 'text': 'What is really happening here?" And he'}, {'start': '446.400', 'end': '449.680', 'text': 'said, "I\'m playing this game called'}, {'start': '447.680', 'end': '451.680', 'text': 'Rocket League." I said, "What\'s Rocket'}, {'start': '449.680', 'end': '454.080', 'text': 'League?" "Well, it\'s remote control cars'}, {'start': '451.680', 'end': '457.039', 'text': 'playing soccer." I thought to myself,'}, {'start': '454.080', 'end': '459.120', 'text': "that's stupid. That's just stupid."}, {'start': '457.039', 'end': '460.840', 'text': 'Either play soccer or or play with the'}, {'start': '459.120', 'end': '463.440', 'text': 'remote control cars, right? What is'}, {'start': '460.840', 'end': '465.280', 'text': 'this? But by the grace of God, I kept my'}, {'start': '463.440', 'end': '467.199', 'text': 'mouth shut and said, "Okay, so show me'}, {'start': '465.280', 'end': '469.680', 'text': 'how this works." And so he put his'}, {'start': '467.199', 'end': '471.440', 'text': 'headset back on and he hopped into a'}, {'start': '469.680', 'end': '472.919', 'text': 'match with two of his friends and they'}, {'start': '471.440', 'end': '476.240', 'text': 'played'}, {'start': '472.919', 'end': '480.240', 'text': "3v3. And so I'm I'm watching from the"}, {'start': '476.240', 'end': '482.080', 'text': 'outside, watching in. And man, I heard'}, {'start': '480.240', 'end': '484.240', 'text': 'all kinds of things coming from him. I'}, {'start': '482.080', 'end': '486.800', 'text': 'heard character. I heard integrity. I'}, {'start': '484.240', 'end': '489.520', 'text': 'heard sportsmanship. I heard leadership.'}, {'start': '486.800', 'end': '491.199', 'text': 'I heard all of these amazing things. And'}, {'start': '489.520', 'end': '493.840', 'text': 'it was only five minutes. It was in this'}, {'start': '491.199', 'end': '496.080', 'text': 'fiveminute match. And after it was all'}, {'start': '493.840', 'end': '498.000', 'text': 'over, I was like, "Dude, I\'ve got some'}, {'start': '496.080', 'end': '499.520', 'text': 'questions." And so for the next 30'}, {'start': '498.000', 'end': '500.960', 'text': 'minutes, I just asked question after'}, {'start': '499.520', 'end': '503.199', 'text': 'question after question after question'}, {'start': '500.960', 'end': '506.080', 'text': 'after question. And it was in that'}, {'start': '503.199', 'end': '509.039', 'text': 'moment of humbling myself and really'}, {'start': '506.080', 'end': '511.880', 'text': 'trying to understand his world that God'}, {'start': '509.039', 'end': '515.279', 'text': 'just revolutionized our relationship.'}, {'start': '511.880', 'end': '518.159', 'text': 'Wow. I love that. Entering that space'}, {'start': '515.279', 'end': '520.399', 'text': 'and just just asking the questions,'}, {'start': '518.159', 'end': '522.479', 'text': 'right? And showing him that something'}, {'start': '520.399', 'end': '524.480', 'text': "that he loves that you're willing to"}, {'start': '522.479', 'end': '525.440', 'text': "enter into that space. And we're going"}, {'start': '524.480', 'end': '526.720', 'text': "to take a quick break, but then we're"}, {'start': '525.440', 'end': '529.600', 'text': 'going to come back and talk about how'}, {'start': '526.720', 'end': '532.320', 'text': 'God used that to catalyze esports. Sling'}, {'start': '529.600', 'end': '534.080', 'text': 'slingshot esports.'}, {'start': '532.320', 'end': '537.370', 'text': "Stay tuned. We'll be right back to learn"}, {'start': '534.080', 'end': '543.160', 'text': "more about gaming for God's"}, {'start': '537.370', 'end': '546.240', 'text': '[Music]'}, {'start': '543.160', 'end': '549.680', 'text': 'glory. Watch Lighthouse TV wherever you'}, {'start': '546.240', 'end': '552.399', 'text': 'go. Available on Roku, Amazon Fire TV,'}, {'start': '549.680', 'end': '554.880', 'text': 'and Apple TV. Search Lighthouse TV'}, {'start': '552.399', 'end': '556.120', 'text': 'online on your streaming device or go to'}, {'start': '554.880', 'end': '560.450', 'text': 'our website,'}, {'start': '556.120', 'end': '574.080', 'text': 'lighthouseetv.org, for more information.'}, {'start': '560.450', 'end': '576.320', 'text': '[Music]'}, {'start': '574.080', 'end': '578.640', 'text': "Welcome back to One Day Closer. We're"}, {'start': '576.320', 'end': '580.600', 'text': "here with Brendan O'Brien, the the"}, {'start': '578.640', 'end': '583.200', 'text': 'founder and president of Slingshot'}, {'start': '580.600', 'end': '585.200', 'text': 'Esports, learning how we can use gaming'}, {'start': '583.200', 'end': '587.040', 'text': "for God's glory."}, {'start': '585.200', 'end': '590.080', 'text': 'So Brian, we just heard great story'}, {'start': '587.040', 'end': '592.560', 'text': 'about how your son gets passionate about'}, {'start': '590.080', 'end': '594.399', 'text': "gaming, you're not so passionate about"}, {'start': '592.560', 'end': '597.200', 'text': 'it, and then you start asking questions,'}, {'start': '594.399', 'end': '598.560', 'text': 'start entering his space, and you see'}, {'start': '597.200', 'end': '600.720', 'text': "all the stuff you're trying to teach"}, {'start': '598.560', 'end': '602.800', 'text': 'your kid, character, leadership, um,'}, {'start': '600.720', 'end': '604.480', 'text': 'encouragement, and you see that playing'}, {'start': '602.800', 'end': '607.200', 'text': "out in the way he's interacting in these"}, {'start': '604.480', 'end': '610.000', 'text': 'video games. and and how does God then'}, {'start': '607.200', 'end': '612.000', 'text': 'use that to spark this idea of'}, {'start': '610.000', 'end': '614.399', 'text': 'transitioning from doing a physical'}, {'start': '612.000', 'end': '616.839', 'text': 'sports ministry to an esports ministry?'}, {'start': '614.399', 'end': '619.839', 'text': 'Another great question.'}, {'start': '616.839', 'end': '622.560', 'text': 'So he mentioned in that 30 minute'}, {'start': '619.839', 'end': '626.399', 'text': 'conversation about tournaments. Yeah.'}, {'start': '622.560', 'end': '628.640', 'text': 'And I asked him, hey, who runs the'}, {'start': '626.399', 'end': '630.399', 'text': "tournaments? And he says, well, there's"}, {'start': '628.640', 'end': '632.560', 'text': 'big companies that run tournaments and'}, {'start': '630.399', 'end': '634.000', 'text': "that's how the professionals get they"}, {'start': '632.560', 'end': '635.839', 'text': "make their money. That's how they get"}, {'start': '634.000', 'end': '638.800', 'text': "notorized. that's how people people"}, {'start': '635.839', 'end': '640.640', 'text': 'watch. I was like, "Well, could we run a'}, {'start': '638.800', 'end': '642.560', 'text': 'tournament?" And he stopped for a'}, {'start': '640.640', 'end': '644.160', 'text': 'second. He said, "Yeah, I think so." I'}, {'start': '642.560', 'end': '646.079', 'text': 'said, "Okay, so could we run a'}, {'start': '644.160', 'end': '647.839', 'text': 'tournament and then could we stop right'}, {'start': '646.079', 'end': '650.000', 'text': 'before the championship game?" And he'}, {'start': '647.839', 'end': '652.160', 'text': 'said, "I don\'t see why not." And I said,'}, {'start': '650.000', 'end': '653.680', 'text': '"Well, could we run a tournament, stop'}, {'start': '652.160', 'end': '655.839', 'text': 'right before the championship game, talk'}, {'start': '653.680', 'end': '657.839', 'text': 'a little bit about Jesus, and then play'}, {'start': '655.839', 'end': '660.000', 'text': 'the final game, the championship game?"'}, {'start': '657.839', 'end': '663.680', 'text': 'And he\'s like, "Yeah, I don\'t see why'}, {'start': '660.000', 'end': '665.360', 'text': 'not." And then to my surprise, he starts'}, {'start': '663.680', 'end': '666.480', 'text': 'naming all of his friends. Well, this'}, {'start': '665.360', 'end': '667.519', 'text': 'friend could help with this and this'}, {'start': '666.480', 'end': '668.720', 'text': 'friend could help with that and this'}, {'start': '667.519', 'end': '672.399', 'text': 'friend could help with that. And I was'}, {'start': '668.720', 'end': '675.519', 'text': 'like, whoa, this is significant. And and'}, {'start': '672.399', 'end': '678.079', 'text': 'so this crazy idea of using video games'}, {'start': '675.519', 'end': '680.320', 'text': 'as a platform to just even talk about'}, {'start': '678.079', 'end': '683.519', 'text': "Jesus. Yeah. That's where that's what it"}, {'start': '680.320', 'end': '685.440', 'text': 'was born. Wow. 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Absolutely. And one'}, {'start': '1292.960', 'end': '1298.240', 'text': "more thing, like you're watching your"}, {'start': '1295.200', 'end': '1301.120', 'text': 'kid work hard at something, right? to'}, {'start': '1298.240', 'end': '1303.760', 'text': 'persevere, the grit, the resilience, all'}, {'start': '1301.120', 'end': '1306.240', 'text': 'of that. And we help try to help parents'}, {'start': '1303.760', 'end': '1309.039', 'text': 'understand that that transfers into real'}, {'start': '1306.240', 'end': '1311.280', 'text': 'life. Yes. Right. So, the the tenacity'}, {'start': '1309.039', 'end': '1314.080', 'text': 'that they have to beat that level that'}, {'start': '1311.280', 'end': '1315.600', 'text': 'can carry over to that one math problem'}, {'start': '1314.080', 'end': '1316.880', 'text': "that they just can't figure out. Okay,"}, {'start': '1315.600', 'end': '1319.760', 'text': "let's work at it. Let's work at it."}, {'start': '1316.880', 'end': '1322.320', 'text': "Let's work at it. And sometimes players"}, {'start': '1319.760', 'end': '1324.480', 'text': 'will go to the internet to get help to'}, {'start': '1322.320', 'end': '1326.400', 'text': "how to beat that level, right? So, let's"}, {'start': '1324.480', 'end': '1328.799', 'text': "take that idea like, I can't beat this"}, {'start': '1326.400', 'end': '1330.880', 'text': 'math problem. Okay. Well, how else can'}, {'start': '1328.799', 'end': '1333.360', 'text': 'we like what other things can we do to'}, {'start': '1330.880', 'end': '1337.440', 'text': 'be able to overcome that obstacle, beat'}, {'start': '1333.360', 'end': '1338.960', 'text': 'the math boss, so to speak? Yeah. What'}, {'start': '1337.440', 'end': '1340.400', 'text': 'what advice would you give? 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It'd be like It'd be like"}, {'start': '1357.200', 'end': '1361.200', 'text': "you're playing a basketball game, right?"}, {'start': '1359.600', 'end': '1363.679', 'text': 'And all of a sudden your point guard'}, {'start': '1361.200', 'end': '1365.679', 'text': 'just disappears. Like okay, now you play'}, {'start': '1363.679', 'end': '1366.880', 'text': 'like what happened to him, right? But'}, {'start': '1365.679', 'end': '1368.559', 'text': "same thing happens when you're playing"}, {'start': '1366.880', 'end': '1370.559', 'text': "when you're playing online like your"}, {'start': '1368.559', 'end': '1372.159', 'text': "team needs you. Wow. Unless you're"}, {'start': '1370.559', 'end': '1374.080', 'text': 'playing by yourself, right? And that'}, {'start': '1372.159', 'end': '1376.480', 'text': "that does happen. But if you're playing"}, {'start': '1374.080', 'end': '1378.559', 'text': 'in a squad of two or four or five or'}, {'start': '1376.480', 'end': '1381.440', 'text': 'whatever it is, like your team needs'}, {'start': '1378.559', 'end': '1384.080', 'text': 'you. And so one of the best tips and'}, {'start': '1381.440', 'end': '1386.799', 'text': 'tricks to teach parents and their kids'}, {'start': '1384.080', 'end': '1388.799', 'text': 'is to have some type of code or message.'}, {'start': '1386.799', 'end': '1391.440', 'text': 'Be able to have the player say to the'}, {'start': '1388.799', 'end': '1393.120', 'text': 'parent, "I\'m going to do X." And X could'}, {'start': '1391.440', 'end': '1395.360', 'text': "be I'm going to run a mission for 20"}, {'start': '1393.120', 'end': '1398.400', 'text': "minutes. After those 20 minutes, I'm"}, {'start': '1395.360', 'end': '1400.880', 'text': "available about give or take. 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That's really helpful because when"}, {'start': '1423.440', 'end': '1427.679', 'text': 'you think about, you know, if you if you'}, {'start': '1425.360', 'end': '1429.360', 'text': 'think about, okay, I need you to stop'}, {'start': '1427.679', 'end': '1430.640', 'text': "playing or whatever, well, it's going to"}, {'start': '1429.360', 'end': '1432.559', 'text': "be five minutes. They're not just"}, {'start': '1430.640', 'end': '1433.840', 'text': "leaving the game because they're trying"}, {'start': '1432.559', 'end': '1436.480', 'text': "to be disobedient. they'll also be"}, {'start': '1433.840', 'end': '1438.159', 'text': 'leaving their team and their friends'}, {'start': '1436.480', 'end': '1440.880', 'text': 'high and dry if they just quit, right?'}, {'start': '1438.159', 'end': '1443.200', 'text': 'So, even just the understanding of uh of'}, {'start': '1440.880', 'end': '1445.679', 'text': 'of under entering into that to even know'}, {'start': '1443.200', 'end': '1447.520', 'text': "what's going on. Man, this Brendan, this"}, {'start': '1445.679', 'end': '1450.159', 'text': "has been so great. We're out of time,"}, {'start': '1447.520', 'end': '1451.679', 'text': 'but man, I I could talk for for a lot'}, {'start': '1450.159', 'end': '1453.039', 'text': "longer about this. I'm really excited"}, {'start': '1451.679', 'end': '1455.200', 'text': "about what you're doing and thank you"}, {'start': '1453.039', 'end': '1456.240', 'text': 'for your faithfulness in this. Um I'}, {'start': '1455.200', 'end': '1457.679', 'text': 'trust people are going to be encouraged'}, {'start': '1456.240', 'end': '1459.200', 'text': 'through it. Thank you so much for having'}, {'start': '1457.679', 'end': '1461.679', 'text': 'me. This was great. I enjoyed our'}, {'start': '1459.200', 'end': '1463.039', 'text': 'conversation. It was great. Stay tuned.'}, {'start': '1461.679', 'end': '1465.630', 'text': "We're going to come back and and think"}, {'start': '1463.039', 'end': '1471.400', 'text': 'about how we can apply this to our'}, {'start': '1465.630', 'end': '1475.039', 'text': '[Music]'}, {'start': '1471.400', 'end': '1477.520', 'text': "lives. You're watching Lighthouse TV 24"}, {'start': '1475.039', 'end': '1479.960', 'text': 'hours a day, 7 days a week. 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