हिन्दुओं के नरसंहार पर Farooq Abdullah ने क्या कहा?|Jammu Kashmir | Pakistan | POK | Pahalgam Attack
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[{'start': '0.000', 'end': '4.200', 'text': 'The terrorist attack in Pahalgam has shaken the country to its core.  The'}, {'start': '4.200', 'end': '10.719', 'text': 'way in which the massacre took place in a brutal manner'}, {'start': '7.680', 'end': '12.679', 'text': ', a mistake happened, a terrorist attack took place, 26'}, {'start': '10.719', 'end': '18.400', 'text': 'innocent people lost their lives.  Since then there'}, {'start': '12.679', 'end': '21.199', 'text': 'is anger in the whole country.   There'}, {'start': '18.400', 'end': '22.960', 'text': 'is talk of revenge.  The water has been stopped.'}, {'start': '21.199', 'end': '26.080', 'text': 'Of Pakistan.  The Indus Water'}, {'start': '22.960', 'end': '28.560', 'text': 'Treaty has been cancelled.  There'}, {'start': '26.080', 'end': '30.080', 'text': 'is talk of closing the airspace.  There is talk of revenge.  The'}, {'start': '28.560', 'end': '32.399', 'text': 'Prime Minister is continuously'}, {'start': '30.080', 'end': '34.960', 'text': 'doing this sitting in Delhi.  But'}, {'start': '32.399', 'end': '37.280', 'text': 'what voice is going from Jammu and Kashmir regarding Pahalgam?'}, {'start': '34.960', 'end': '39.680', 'text': 'Today I have a very special guest with me, whom I'}, {'start': '37.280', 'end': '42.719', 'text': 'think not only the entire country but the entire world would'}, {'start': '39.680', 'end': '44.879', 'text': 'like to listen to.  What is his opinion about this attack'}, {'start': '42.719', 'end': '47.680', 'text': 'and what does he think could be the answer to it.'}, {'start': '44.879', 'end': '49.280', 'text': 'With me is Farooq Abdullah, who is the'}, {'start': '47.680', 'end': '51.520', 'text': 'President of the National Conference.   He'}, {'start': '49.280', 'end': '53.559', 'text': 'is the former Chief Minister of Jammu and Kashmir.'}, {'start': '51.520', 'end': '57.360', 'text': 'Farooq Saheb, thank you very much for'}, {'start': '53.559', 'end': '60.320', 'text': 'taking out the time.  There is no question because I am'}, {'start': '57.360', 'end': '63.440', 'text': 'not a question.  This is probably the first time a'}, {'start': '60.320', 'end': '66.799', 'text': 'tourist has been attacked.  That means'}, {'start': '63.440', 'end': '70.240', 'text': 'you have also seen the 90s era.  We all saw that the year 2025 is going on.'}, {'start': '66.799', 'end': '73.840', 'text': 'This is the first time that'}, {'start': '70.240', 'end': '78.320', 'text': 'tourists were beaten up after asking their religion.   That'}, {'start': '73.840', 'end': '79.799', 'text': 'is absolutely correct.  This is the first time that'}, {'start': '90.680', 'end': '95.439', 'text': 'I can never even imagine such a thing happening to unarmed people who went there to relax and see this beauty.  No one'}, {'start': '93.520', 'end': '96.360', 'text': 'who is concerned with humanity can even imagine'}, {'start': '96.360', 'end': '103.840', 'text': 'that'}, {'start': '99.320', 'end': '108.399', 'text': 'he would make a person stand, ask his religion and then'}, {'start': '103.840', 'end': '111.799', 'text': "shoot him and martyr him.  I'm surprised"}, {'start': '108.399', 'end': '115.200', 'text': "he's not that person.  They"}, {'start': '111.799', 'end': '118.159', 'text': 'are beasts.  They should be treated as if this has'}, {'start': '115.200', 'end': '120.719', 'text': 'never happened.  Should be caught'}, {'start': '118.159', 'end': '125.280', 'text': 'first.'}, {'start': '120.719', 'end': '128.560', 'text': 'No one is here.  You say that in our country, in'}, {'start': '125.280', 'end': '133.200', 'text': 'fact I think it has been condemned in the world.'}, {'start': '128.560', 'end': '136.560', 'text': 'How can this happen?  This'}, {'start': '133.200', 'end': '138.720', 'text': 'should not happen.  And it needs to be stopped.'}, {'start': '136.560', 'end': '140.720', 'text': 'You, Farooq Sahab, so today I am'}, {'start': '138.720', 'end': '144.480', 'text': 'specifically talking to you, what is the option now?  What'}, {'start': '140.720', 'end': '147.520', 'text': 'should be done?  Meaning, sometimes Uri, sometimes Pulwama and'}, {'start': '144.480', 'end': '150.560', 'text': 'then Pahalgam.  The water has been stopped now.  The'}, {'start': '147.520', 'end': '152.160', 'text': 'issue of closing the airspace in Pathankot'}, {'start': '150.560', 'end': '154.640', 'text': 'should be something full and final.  You feel'}, {'start': '152.160', 'end': '156.879', 'text': 'that now that it has happened once and for all, Pakistan'}, {'start': '154.640', 'end': '158.640', 'text': 'means the situation is on the verge of war.  You'}, {'start': '156.879', 'end': '160.480', 'text': 'know better than me.  There'}, {'start': '158.640', 'end': '162.959', 'text': 'Khawaja Asif is saying that the'}, {'start': '160.480', 'end': '164.959', 'text': 'attack will happen in 24 to 36 hours.  What will happen?'}, {'start': '162.959', 'end': '167.360', 'text': 'What should happen?  What do you think'}, {'start': '164.959', 'end': '171.120', 'text': 'India should do?  See.   As'}, {'start': '167.360', 'end': '175.200', 'text': 'a citizen, I'}, {'start': '171.120', 'end': '178.879', 'text': "am with the Prime Minister's decision.  Whichever Prime Minister of"}, {'start': '175.200', 'end': '181.680', 'text': 'India will take decisions for our country.'}, {'start': '178.879', 'end': '184.800', 'text': 'We clearly said that we are with them.'}, {'start': '181.680', 'end': '189.280', 'text': 'Whatever he thinks is better because we want'}, {'start': '184.800', 'end': '192.640', 'text': 'terrorism to end completely now.  This'}, {'start': '189.280', 'end': '196.159', 'text': 'must be eradicated from its roots at some point and those who are'}, {'start': '192.640', 'end': '199.440', 'text': 'responsible for this and who are behind this must be'}, {'start': '196.159', 'end': '204.159', 'text': 'given the harshest punishment.  If you look at the country'}, {'start': '199.440', 'end': '206.319', 'text': 'behind this, you know that Kargil happened.'}, {'start': '204.159', 'end': '210.480', 'text': 'First they said we did not do it,'}, {'start': '206.319', 'end': '215.440', 'text': 'then they admitted we said it happened in Mumbai,'}, {'start': '210.480', 'end': '219.360', 'text': 'we did not do it, they accepted it, means'}, {'start': '215.440', 'end': '222.879', 'text': 'in everything they said the same thing, we are not there, hey, if'}, {'start': '219.360', 'end': '226.440', 'text': 'you are not there then who is it, we are coming from your country.'}, {'start': '222.879', 'end': '229.440', 'text': 'Your people are training them.  They are'}, {'start': '226.440', 'end': '230.480', 'text': 'giving you guns and these things.'}, {'start': '230.480', 'end': '235.280', 'text': 'And you are showing them the way.'}, {'start': '233.519', 'end': '239.120', 'text': 'Here I also want to tell you one thing that'}, {'start': '235.280', 'end': '241.840', 'text': 'when I had left Maulana Azar, Masood'}, {'start': '239.120', 'end': '245.439', 'text': 'Masood Hasan, at that time I had told him that do not'}, {'start': '241.840', 'end': '248.159', 'text': 'leave them, they have made them their own'}, {'start': '248.159', 'end': '254.920', 'text': 'in their areas, if anyone'}, {'start': '249.400', 'end': '259.440', 'text': 'accepts, we are facing the consequences of the same thing today.'}, {'start': '254.920', 'end': '262.800', 'text': 'Should not be left.'}, {'start': '259.440', 'end': '264.639', 'text': 'But I did it.  Now this should not happen again.  You are'}, {'start': '262.800', 'end': '266.639', 'text': 'saying that terrorism should be eradicated from its roots.  Full'}, {'start': '264.639', 'end': '268.720', 'text': 'and final.  But for him, wherever there'}, {'start': '266.639', 'end': '271.280', 'text': 'is a factory, there is a factory of terrorists.'}, {'start': '268.720', 'end': '273.520', 'text': 'Finish it.  So attack on Pakistan is the'}, {'start': '271.280', 'end': '276.160', 'text': 'next option.  Either this happens or there are war like'}, {'start': '273.520', 'end': '278.479', 'text': 'conditions and then there is war.  See, then he'}, {'start': '276.160', 'end': '280.960', 'text': 'threatens nuclear war.'}, {'start': '278.479', 'end': '282.160', 'text': 'I will never suggest.  What will he do?'}, {'start': '280.960', 'end': '284.800', 'text': 'That too is a nuclear power.  This'}, {'start': '282.160', 'end': '287.520', 'text': "is also nuclear power.  It's not like that.  And"}, {'start': '284.800', 'end': '289.919', 'text': 'I remember when Vajpayee ji did the first'}, {'start': '287.520', 'end': '292.320', 'text': 'test, after Indira Gandhi ji,'}, {'start': '289.919', 'end': '294.880', 'text': 'I went with him to Pokhran.  What did'}, {'start': '292.320', 'end': '298.000', 'text': 'he say there?  Said we would'}, {'start': '294.880', 'end': '300.960', 'text': 'never use it again.  And let me tell you'}, {'start': '298.000', 'end': '303.600', 'text': 'whenever the attack has happened from there.  Yes, it'}, {'start': '300.960', 'end': '306.320', 'text': 'happened from their side.  We never started.'}, {'start': '303.600', 'end': '309.759', 'text': "Try it.  We hadn't started."}, {'start': '306.320', 'end': '311.919', 'text': 'He had started it.  Every time the attacks'}, {'start': '309.759', 'end': '313.360', 'text': 'happened, he initiated them.  Otherwise, you are'}, {'start': '311.919', 'end': '315.360', 'text': 'talking about the no first use policy,'}, {'start': '313.360', 'end': '321.520', 'text': 'I think that it is not us who will be the first to attack'}, {'start': '315.360', 'end': '324.800', 'text': 'because we have to see, you have Harshima and'}, {'start': '321.520', 'end': '329.520', 'text': 'Nagasaki in front of you and today this'}, {'start': '324.800', 'end': '331.600', 'text': 'bomb is even more dangerous than that but if'}, {'start': '329.520', 'end': '333.199', 'text': 'finally that has to happen, I do not'}, {'start': '331.600', 'end': '335.360', 'text': "think that Sir, don't you think that there is a"}, {'start': '333.199', 'end': '337.600', 'text': 'need to revise the no first use policy'}, {'start': '335.360', 'end': '339.680', 'text': 'because Pakistan does not accept that thing,'}, {'start': '337.600', 'end': '341.840', 'text': 'Pakistan has never accepted that, so why do we'}, {'start': '339.680', 'end': '343.639', 'text': 'need to revise the no first use'}, {'start': '341.840', 'end': '348.000', 'text': 'policy, we are'}, {'start': '343.639', 'end': '350.400', 'text': "humanity, this is Mahatma Gandhi's country."}, {'start': '348.000', 'end': '353.039', 'text': "In Mahatma Gandhi's country we have to first"}, {'start': '350.400', 'end': '355.520', 'text': 'use all those things which can stop the war.'}, {'start': '353.039', 'end': '358.080', 'text': 'Sir, the enemy is not considering'}, {'start': '355.520', 'end': '361.440', 'text': 'him an enemy.  Listen, if it is not finalised then'}, {'start': '358.080', 'end': '363.680', 'text': 'what other option do you have?'}, {'start': '361.440', 'end': '366.520', 'text': 'You also have to see when this is not a small thing.'}, {'start': '363.680', 'end': '370.560', 'text': 'China is also on our borders.'}, {'start': '366.520', 'end': '374.000', 'text': 'Remember that too.  We have to make'}, {'start': '370.560', 'end': '375.440', 'text': 'our policy after calculating everything'}, {'start': '374.000', 'end': '378.479', 'text': 'and whatever the Prime Minister would be making,'}, {'start': '378.479', 'end': '384.960', 'text': 'I would just say one thing to the country, we have to stand'}, {'start': '381.680', 'end': '386.880', 'text': 'strongly and forcefully behind the Prime Minister'}, {'start': '384.960', 'end': '388.880', 'text': 'because Farooq Sahab, you always'}, {'start': '386.880', 'end': '391.280', 'text': 'advocate for talks.'}, {'start': '388.880', 'end': '394.479', 'text': 'You have always been criticized many times, even during the most difficult times.'}, {'start': '391.280', 'end': '396.960', 'text': 'You know you'}, {'start': '394.479', 'end': '399.919', 'text': 'always were there when I talked.  Now is there any'}, {'start': '396.960', 'end': '403.440', 'text': 'option for conversation? I say peace sir,'}, {'start': '399.919', 'end': '406.880', 'text': 'I am myself embarrassed.  I feel sorry for'}, {'start': '403.440', 'end': '408.560', 'text': 'myself that whatever I used to say,'}, {'start': '406.880', 'end': '410.720', 'text': 'he is saying a big thing.'}, {'start': '408.560', 'end': '413.280', 'text': 'Today, I have lost to the thing that I used to say.'}, {'start': '410.720', 'end': '416.479', 'text': 'They have defeated us.'}, {'start': '413.280', 'end': '419.039', 'text': 'He did not agree to any conversation.'}, {'start': '416.479', 'end': '421.080', 'text': 'He is not ready to come to the table.'}, {'start': '419.039', 'end': '424.560', 'text': 'Can they take Kashmir'}, {'start': '421.080', 'end': '427.199', 'text': '?  Can Kashmir go with them?'}, {'start': '424.560', 'end': '431.199', 'text': 'Do we believe in Two Nation Theory?  No.'}, {'start': '427.199', 'end': '433.680', 'text': 'So then those who had to go to Pakistan went in 47.'}, {'start': '431.199', 'end': '436.400', 'text': 'He was a nawab and was rich.  He was very'}, {'start': '433.680', 'end': '439.360', 'text': 'educated.  Even today they are migrants in Pakistan.'}, {'start': '436.400', 'end': '441.280', 'text': 'Those who come from there are full flight citizens'}, {'start': '439.360', 'end': '443.520', 'text': 'here.  Nobody asked them whether they had'}, {'start': '441.280', 'end': '445.759', 'text': 'come from Pakistan or where else they had come from?'}, {'start': '443.520', 'end': '447.280', 'text': 'No, they cannot take Kashmir.  That is'}, {'start': '445.759', 'end': '450.240', 'text': 'not possible even in our dreams, but we can take our'}, {'start': '447.280', 'end': '453.759', 'text': 'POK Sir, who says this? It is'}, {'start': '450.240', 'end': '455.360', 'text': 'passed in the parliament that it is'}, {'start': '453.759', 'end': '458.960', 'text': 'our part. This is the right time. You'}, {'start': '455.360', 'end': '462.960', 'text': 'can do anything as per your wish, the decision will be theirs.'}, {'start': '458.960', 'end': '466.000', 'text': 'Farooq Abdullah cannot say anything in this'}, {'start': '462.960', 'end': '469.000', 'text': "because this is India's matter, a matter of all of us."}]