Agenda Review for May 8, 2025, Business Session with Board of County Commissioners on May 1.
Johnson County, KS Government
[{'start': '505.438', 'end': '508.674', 'text': '... >> Clerk:  CHAIR, WE\'RE READY.  >> Chairman Kelly:  GOOD  MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.   IT IS MAY 1st, 2025.  MY NAME  IS MIKE KELLY, CHAIR OF THE  BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR  JOHNSON COUNTY, KANSAS.  WE\'RE  HERE FOR AN AGENDA REVIEW FOR  THE BUSINESS SESSION THAT WILL  TAKE PLACE ON MAY 8th, 2025.   AT THIS TIME, I WILL NOTE THAT  ALL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ARE  PRESENT AND WE\'LL START WITH THE  AGENDA REVIEW.  WILL THE CLERK  READ ITEM NUMBER ONE PLEASE.  RESOLUTION NO. 037-25.R  ADOPTING RESOLUTION NO. 037-25  TO REORGANIZE THE JUVENILE  CORRECTIONS ADVISORY BOARD  (JCAB) AND APPROVE AND ADOPT  BYLAWS FOR THE JCAB.  >> Chairman Kelly: WOULD YOU  ALSO READ ITEM NUMBER TWO AND WE  WILL CONSIDER THESE TOGETHER?  RESOLUTION NO. 038-25.R  ADOPTING RESOLUTION NO. 038-25  TO REORGANIZE THE COMMUNITY  CORRECTIONS ADVISORY BOARD  (CCAB) AND APPROVE AND ADOPT  BYLAWS FOR THE CCAB.  >> Chairman Kelly: THANK YOU  VERY MUCH.  RACHEL MESTAD IS  HERE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF  CORRECTIONS ON BOTH ITEMS.   WELCOME BACK.  >> RACHEL MESTAD:  YES, THANK  YOU.  RACHEL MESTAD WITH THE  DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS.  I\'M  HERE SEEKING ADOPTION FOR  RESOLUTION 037-25 AND 038-25 TO  REORGANIZE OUR JUVENILE JUVENILE  CORRECTIONS ADVISORY BOARD AND  OUR COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS  ADVISORY BOARD AND APPROVAL AND  ADOPTION OF THE BYLAWS FOR BOTH  OF THE BOARDS.  THESE CHANGES  HAVE BEEN MADE AT THE DIRECTION  OF THE BOCC AND IN COLLABORATION  WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.  ON  APRIL 1st, OUR JCAB APPROVED  THESE AND ON APRIL 8th OUR  CCAB APPROVED THE BYLAWS.  I\'M  HAPPY TO STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS  YOU MAY HAVE.  >> Chairman Kelly:  THANK YOU  VERY MUCH.  COMMISSIONER  ASHCRAFT A QUESTION?  >> Commissioner Ashcraft:  YES,  THANK YOU VERY MUCH,  MR. CHAIRMAN.  I LOOK AT BOTH OF  THESE ITEMS -- ACTUALLY SEVERAL  OF THESE ITEMS AS BEING  PROCEDURAL.  BUT I HAD A  QUESTION AND I WILL DIRECT TO  M --BECAUSE SHE IS AT THE PODIUI  WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD HAVE A  CONSOLIDATED MATRIX OF ALL THE  APPOINTMENTS AND THE  QUALIFICATIONS BECAUSE  INDIVIDUALLY IT\'S NOT  NECESSARILY OVERLY PROBLEMATIC,  BUT KEEPING TRACK OF ALL OF  THESE DIFFERENT APPOINTMENTS,  IT\'S STARTING TO ADD UP.  AND JUST HAVING A MATRIX THAT  SHOWED BY COMMISSIONER THE  NUMBER AND THE QUALIFICATIONS  WOULD BE HELPFUL.  >> RACHEL MESTAD:  CHAIR, IF I  COULD ADDRESS THAT.  PRIOR TO  TODAY, I SENT OUT AN E-MAIL TO  THE COMMISSIONERS WITH AN EXCEL  SPREAD SHEET.  IN THAT EXCEL SPREAD SHEET,  THERE ARE TABS THAT ARE LOCATED  FOR EACH OF THESE BOARDS ON THE  AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION SIX  BOARDS.  IN THERE WE BREAK OUT  THE CURRENT MEMBERSHIP, WHAT  THEIR TERM WOULD BE AND  QUALIFICATIONS IF WE KNOW THAT  THEY CURRENTLY HAD FOR THEIR  APPOINTMENT.  BELOW AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CHART  WE PUT WHAT THE RESOLUTION IS  REQUESTING PER LAW AND WHAT IS  REQUIRED.  SO FROM THERE, THERE  WAS DISCUSSION TO FOLLOW UP TO  GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION TO  KNOW IF THIS PARTICULAR PERSON  WHO IS CURRENTLY SERVING WHAT  QUALIFICATION THEY MESH WITH  THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.  SO WE\'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING  THAT.  THE ATTORNEYS ARE  REACHING OUT TO OBTAIN THAT  INFORMATION.  AGAIN WE DIDN\'T  HAVE THAT INFORMATION, SO WE ARE  HAVING TO GATHER IT.  AND IT MAY  REQUIRE ACTUALLY CALLING EACH OF  THE INDIVIDUALS AND TALKING TO  STAFF FOR THE BOARDS TO MAKE  THOSE DETERMINATIONS.  BUT WE\'RE  WORKING AS QUICKLY BECAUSE WE  KNOW THAT UPON ADOPTION OF  THIS -- IF YOU DO ADOPT THIS ON  YOUR MAY 8th AGENDA, WE HAVE  IT AS EFFECTIVE AS 45 DAYS OUT,  WHICH IS JUNE 22ND.  SO I TRIED  TO IN THE E-MAIL PROVIDE A  TIMELINE THAT IF YOU MOVE  FORWARD WITH -- AS EXPECTED ON  MAY 8th, WHAT THAT PROCESS  WOULD LOOK LIKE IN GETTING  APPLICATIONS, SPEAKING WITH  PEOPLE, IN ORDER TO MOVE IT  FORWARD.  IF THAT TIMELINE IS TOO QUICK,  THEN WE CAN AMEND THIS IF YOU  DESIRE SO THAT IT WOULD BE  PUSHED OUT FURTHER.  >> Commissioner Ashcraft:  I  APPRECIATE THAT SUMMARY.  I  WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO MAKE THIS  AS SEAMLESS AS POSSIBLE FOR  THESE BOARDS AS WELL AS  COMMISSIONERS.  JUST LET US  KNOW.  I THINK COMMISSIONER FAST  AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TALK TO  YOU ABOUT ONE OF THE OTHER ONES  LATER ON, BUT WE WILL ADDRESS  THAT MOMENTARILY.  >> Clerk:  OKAY.  T  THANK YOU.  >> Chairman Kelly:  COMMISSIONER  ALLENBRAND.  >> Commissioner Allenbrand:    THAN  KS, CHAIR.  I APPRECIATE THE  DETAILED PACKET YOU SENT OUT.   IT\'S REALLY DETAILED.  IS THERE A TAB IN THERE THAT  LISTS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE  BOARDS ON IT THAT EACH  COMMISSIONER POI APPOINTS TO?  >> Clerk:  CHAIR AND  COMMISSIONER, EACH BOARD IS  BROKEN DOWN BY YOUR DISTRICT.   FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO GIVE A  SHOUT OUT TO GRACE.  GRACE HAS  BEEN INCREDIBLE IN WHAT SHE HAS  DONE TO PULLING THIS TOGETHER.   BUT WE CAN SET UP MEETINGS WITH  EACH OF YOU AND TRY TO GET  IMMEDIATELY TO YOU TO GO THROUGH  THOSE SO YOU CAN SEE IT.  BUT  YES, WE DO HAVE THAT IN THE  EXCEL SPREAD SHEET AND WE CAN  SHOW YOU OR WORK WITH YOUR  SUPPORT STAFF IN PRINTING IT OUT  SO YOU HAVE A HARD COPY TOO.  >> Commissioner Allenbrand:    YES.  I HAVE REACHED OUT TO HER,  I HAVE TALKED WITH HER, AND I DO  HAVE SOME PRINTED SHEETS JUST TO  HELP ME.  I WAS JUST LOOKING  THAT MAYBE THERE WAS A CHEAT  SHEET LIKE WE DO ON BOARD  LIAISONS.  LIST EVERY SINGLE WE  HAVE TO APPOINT TO AS A CHECK  OFF.  BUT I CAN DO THAT ON MY  OWN.  >> Clerk:  WE CAN PUT THAT  TOGETHER.LY SPEAK WITH -- I WILL  SPEAK WITH GRACE.  >> Commissioner Allenbrand:    BECAUSE WE ARE DOING NEW  APPOINTMENTSS.  THANK YOU AND  THANK HER.  I KNOW THERE HAS  BEEN A LOT OF WORK PUT INTO  THIS.  >> Chairman Kelly:  COMMISSIONER  BREWER.  >> Commissioner Brewer:  YES, I  BELIEVE MS. TRENT, AND MAYBE I  BENEFITED BECAUSE I WAS THE NEW  GPERSON COMING ON.  WE HAD AN  EXCEL SPREAD SHEET THAT LISTED  THAT HAD TWO TABS ON IT.  ALL  THE APPOINTMENTS THAT DISTRICT  THREE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR.  IN MY  CASE DISTRICT THREE.  AND IT WAS  ALL BOARD TABS.  BECAUSE I COULD  REFERENCE THAT, BECAUSE I HAD A  COUPLE QUESTIONS.  I REMEMBER  THAT DOCUMENT.  I\'VE BEEN USING  THAT AS MY GUIDE POST OF WHAT I  GOT TO DO WHEN.  WITH THE NEW DOCUMENT THAT YOU  SENT OUT THIS PAST -- EARLIER  THIS WEEK THAT WAS ESPECIALLY  GERMANE TO THE AGENDA REVIEW,  STUFF WE ARE GOING THROUGH  TODAY, I REALLY APPRECIATE AT  THE BOTTOM OF THAT BOX THAT SAID  "HERE\'S THE DIFFERENT  PROFESSIONS," YOU KNOW OR AREAS  OF EXPERTISE THAT COMMISSIONERS  ARE ASSIGNED.  COMMISSIONER ASHCRAFT, I ALREADY  MADE THAT REQUEST TOO OF HEY,  CAN WE MATCH UP WHO IS CURRENTLY  SITTING AND WHAT PROFESSION THEY  FILL IN CASE THERE IS MOVING  AROUND.  THE ONLY OTHERS A ASPECT THAT  WOULD BE HELPFUL I SAW IN THE  BYLAWS OR OTHER DOCUMENTS, AS WE  ENACT THIS, WE HAVE TO STAGGER  PEOPLE\'S TERMS, THEIR FIRST  GOAROUND, SO YOU DON\'T HAVE  EVERYBODY POTENTIALLY HAVING TO  BE REAPPOINTED OR REPLACED AT  THE SAME TIME.  WHEN THAT IS DETERMINED OF WHICH  APPOINTMENT WILL BE A ONE YEAR,  TWO YEAR, OR THREE YEAR IN THAT  FIRST GO AROUND, COULD THAT ALSO  BE SOMETHING THAT IS JUST ADDED  IN A COLUMN SO THAT WHEN WE  RECRUIT SOMEBODY WE CAN LET THEM  KNOW THIS IS FOR THIS LENGTH OF  TIME AND THEN YOU HAVE A -- AND  THEN YOU WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR  REAPPOINTMENT AND THEN IT GOES  TO THIS LENGTH OF TIME.  IT\'S IN  THE WEEDS AND DETAIL, BUT IT IS  PART OF THE CONVERSATION I TRY  TO HAVE WHEN I RECRUIT PEOPLE.  >> Clerk:  CHAIR AND  COMMISSIONER BREWER, WE CAN ADD  THAT TO THE SPREAD SHEET SINCE  WE ARE SENDING OUT REVISIONS.   AND THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER  OF THAT.  GRACE HAD PREPARED  THAT BY DISTRICT EARLY ON BACK  IN JANUARY.  SO WE WILL GO AHEAD  AND PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.   ALSO CHAIR JUST TO BRING YOUR  ATTENTION, AS YOU KNOW THERE IS  32 COUNTY BOARDS AND  COMMISSIONS, WE ARE GETTING NEAR  THE END OF REORGANIZING.  WE  HAVE TWO MORE LEFT.  THAT BEING  THE AIRPORT BOARD, AS WELL AS  TRANSIT.  AND THEN LASTLY THE  CIVIL SERVICE BOARD WITH THE  SHERIFF\'S OFFICE REVIEWING.  SO  WE ARE ALMOST THERE.  SO THAT IS  PRETTY MUCH A BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT  AND LIFT BY THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT  AND ALL OF THE STAFF IN EACH OF  THESE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE  WORKED TO PULL THIS TOGETHER.   SO I MEAN THAT\'S A HEAVY LIFT.  >> Chairman Kelly:  THANK YOU.   OTHER COMMENTS?  COMMISSIONER  FAST.  >> Commissioner Fast:  IT ALL  DEAL --  >> Chairman Kelly:  MICROPHONE.  >> Commissioner Fast:  ALL OF  THEM DEAL WITH MY CONCERN, YOU  KNOW, I WAS ON THE SOLID WASTE  MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE, AND THERE  IS SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE SERVED  FOR YEARS, REALLY DEDICATED.   SAME WITH THE JUVENILE  CORRECTIONS.  MENTAL HEALTH.   AND WE AS A BOARD DON\'T KNOW WHO  THOSE STARS ARE.  SO I\'M REALLY  WORRIED THAT WE\'RE LETTING GO OF  SOME OF THESE STARS AND THE  TRANSITION.  THERE SHOULD BE  SOME SORT OF TRANSITION AND THEY  ARE JUST ALL -- NONE OF US THEN  WILL JUST APPOINT TOTALLY NEW  PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY  KNOW THE WORK AND HAVE BEEN  INVOLVED IN THE HISTORY, WE NEED  TO KEEP THOSE PEOPLE TOO.   UNLESS YOU SERVE ON IT.  LIKE I  KNOW THE SOLID WASTE STARS, I  KNOW THE MENTAL HEALTH STARS, I  KNOW A FEW OF THE JUVENILE  CORRECTION STARS, BUT I\'VE NEVER  ATTENDED THE COMMUNITY  CORRECTIONS BOARD.  YOU KNOW  WHAT I MEAN?  >> Clerk:  ABSOLUTELY.  AND  CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS JUST TO  GIVE YOU A GUIDELINE, ON THIS  SPREAD SHEET, WE PUT  REAPPOINTMENT, THAT MEANS THE  INDIVIDUAL WANTS TO BE  REAPPOINTED.  SO YOU KNOW THAT.   THE MISSING PIECE IS THE MISSING  QUALIFICATIONS AND IF IT GOES  WITH YOUR DISTRICT.  WE WILL DO  THAT.  ANOTHER ITEM I JUST THOUGHT OF  AND I KNOW ONE OF OUR ATTORNEYS  IS IN THE AUDIENCE, BETSY, WHAT  WE CAN DO IS SEND OUT THE  ORIGINAL APPLICATIONS IF WE CAN  LOCATE ALL OF THAT FOR EACH OF  THE BOARD MEMBERS.  SO THAT YOU  CAN HAVE THAT FROM THE GET GO.   BUT YOU ARE CORRECT, WE DON\'T  WANT YOU TO OUST SOMEBODY WHO IS  A GOOD APPOINTMENT OR GOOD ON  THAT PARTICULAR BOARD.  IT\'S  JUST PULLING THAT INFORMATION  TOGETHER TO GET E IT TO YOU  EASILY.  >> Commissioner Fast:  ON THE  MENTAL HEALTH ADVISORY, VERY FEW  PEOPLE WILL MEET THE NEW  CATEGORIES.  AND SAME WITH THE  SOLID WASTE.  SO THE NEW  CATEGORY X\'S OUT ALL THE PEOPLE  THAT ARE SERVING.  AND THAT\'S --  YOU KNOW.  AND THERE IN LIES THE  ISSUE.  >> Clerk:  AND CHAIR AND  COMMISSIONERS, I APPRECIATE YOUR  FRUSTRATION.  THAT IS WHY WE DID  THIS EXERCISE BACK IN JANUARY.   WE NEED TO GET BOARDS IN  COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAWS AND  STATE STATUES AND WHAT YOUR  RESOLUTIONS.  SO THOSE NEW  QUALIFICATIONS AREN\'T SO NEW.   THAT IS WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.   AND I\'M NOT SAYING SOME OF THE  APPOINTEES ARE NOT IN, WE JUST  DON\'T KNOW.  SO WE HAVE TO  VERIFY THAT.  AND WE\'LL GET THAT  OUT TO YOU.  HOPEFULLY BY  TOMORROW THE ATTORNEYS ARE  WORKING DILIGENTLY RIGHT NOW ON  THAT ALONG WITH STAFF.  BUT I  THINK YOU ARE CORRECT, BUT THERE  IS NOT MUCH WE CAN DO.  WE ARE  TRYING TO GET INTO COMPLIANCE  WITH THE STATES STATUTES AND  THOSE WERE NOT NEW THAT WE MADE  UP.  THIS WAS FROM THE LAWS.  >> Chairman Kelly:  GOOD JOB.   COMMISSIONER HANZLICK.  >> Commissioner Hanzlick:  THANK  YOU.  ASKING CLARIFICATION FROM  CHIEF COUNSEL IF I MAY.  SO WHAT  I\'M UNDERSTANDING, YOU\'RE SAYING  IS THE QUALIFICATION  REQUIREMENTS AS DESCRIBED AND  LAID OUT IN THE SPREAD SHEET  THAT YOU SENT WHERE IT SAYS  REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS, THOSE  ARE STATE REQUIREMENTS FOR  REPRESENTATION ON EACH BOARD?  >> Clerk:  CHAIR AND  COMMISSIONERS.  IT DEPENDS.   DEPENDING ON THE BOARD, SOME ARE  IN THE STATE STATUE.  SOME ARE  WHAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN THE  RESOLUTION.  SO WE LIFTED IT  STRAIGHT FROM THERE.  WE DID NOT  CHANGE QUALIFICATIONS.  WE ONLY  TOOK IF IT\'S IN THE LAW OR WHAT  YOU PREVIOUSLY HAD DONE.  WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE  YEARS, THESE BOARDS HAVE BEEN --  IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME AND  HOPEFULLY WE WON\'T RUN INTO THIS  GOING INTO THE FUTURE BECAUSE WE  ARE LOOKING AT THEM EVERY YEAR  TO TWO YEARS TO MAKE SURE.  AND  DOING THE COMPLIANCE.  BUT WHAT  WE ARE FINDING, AND THAT WAS  PART OF THE FINDINGS FROM THE  REVIEW OF THE BOARDS, THAT SOME  OF THE PEOPLE MAY NOT BE PROPER  QUALIFICATIONS.  THEY\'VE BEEN  CARRIED OVER.  SO THAT IS WHY  IT\'S A LITTLE BIT -- WE HAVE TO  TAKE A STEP FORWARD AND  HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE THIS  DONE.  I AGREE IT HAS BEEN MESSY  -P I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION   I DON\'T -- IF WE DON\'T HAVE  APPOINTEES THAT HAVE NOT MET THE  QUALIFICATIONSS.  >> Commissioner Hanzlick:  IF  I\'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY WHAT  YOU HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE IS  THAT THE ASSIGNMENT OF THE  QUALIFICATION TO THE  COMMISSIONERS NOT NECESSARILY  SET IN STONE.  WE COULD SAY,  HEY, I GOT A REALLY GOOD PERSON  WHO IS REPRESENTATIVE OF  HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONS AND I  WOULD REALLY -- SO WE CAN DO  THAT AMONG OURSELVES.  IS THAT  WHAT I\'M UNDERSTANDING?  >> Clerk:  THAT IS CORRECT.   THAT IS WHAT I INDICATED IN THE  E-MAIL I SENT YOU EARLIER THIS  WEEK.  I THINK THAT SOME OF THE  COMMISSIONERS HAD OR ABOUT TO  HAVE CONVERSATIONS.  AND IF  YOU\'D LET US KNOW OR GRACE OR  MYSELF, WE\'LL BOTH MAKE THOSE  CHANGES IN THE RESOLUTION AND/OR  IN THE FUTURE.  SO WHEN IT DOES  COME FORWARD FOR THOSE  APPOINTMENTS THROUGH THE NEW  RESOLUTION WE ARE PUTTING ON  YOUR CONSENT AGENDA, ALL OF THAT  IS DOCUMENTED.  >> Chairman Kelly:  COMMISSIONER  MEYERS.  >> Commissioner Meyers:  THANK  YOU, CHAIR.  I KNOW THIS  CONVERSATION IS GOING ON A  LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN I THOUGHT  IT WAS GOING TO.  BUT I THINK  IT\'S IMPORTANT.  AND WE ALL  REALIZE THERE IS DIFFERENT  NUANCES WITH DIFFERENT COMM  COMMITTEES.  BUT FOR INSTANCE  SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT  COMMITTEE, THEY USED TO HAVE  APPOINTMENTS FROM THE COUNSEL OF  MAYORS.  NOW THERE IS ONLY SO  MANY APPOINTMENTS FROM THE  COUNSEL OF MAYORS THAT IS GOING  TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE.  BUT  THERE IS OTHER CURRENT COMMITTEE  MEMBERS THAT WERE APPOINTED FROM  THE COUNSEL OF MAYORS THAT WOULD  LIKE TO REMAIN ON THAT SOLID  WASTE W MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE.  I  WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY THE SOLID  WASTE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE HAS  AN EXCELLENT GROUP THAT HAS  WORKED WELL TOGETHER AND OF  COURSE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS  HAVE THEIR OWN PREROGATIVES TO  HANDLE THEIR APPOINTMENTS THE  WAY THEY SEE FIT.  BUT I JUST --  BEING A LIAISON FOR THAT  COMMITTEE, I JUST WANT TO SAY,  THAT COMMITTEE IS EXCELLENT AND  WORKS WELL AND THEY HAVE PEOPLE  THAT WANT TO STAY.  IN FACT, I  THINK MOST OF THEM EXCEPT THE  ONES THAT ARE FALLING OFF THEIR  TERMS ARE WANTING TO STAY.  >> Clerk:  CHAIR AND  COMMISSIONERS, JUST TO CLARIFY,  THOSE APPOINTMENTS THAT WANT TO  REMAIN WILL BE CARRIED OVER INTO  RESOLUTIONS.  SO WE ARE NOT  CHANGING THESE.  THESE ARE ONLY  AFFECTING YOUR BOCC COUNTY  APPOINTMENTS.  BECAUSE WE ARE  DISTRIBUTING, AS YOU RECALL,  THERE WAS ISSUES THAT HAD BEEN  BROUGHT UP SINCE 2007 WHERE THE  CHAIR DID ALL OF THE  APPOINTMENTS FOR ALL OF THE  BOARDS PRACTICALLY  DISPROPORTIONATE.  AND NOW WE  ARE SPREADING IT OUT.  THAT IS  WHY YOU ARE SEEING THESE  DIFFERENCES.  BUT IT WILL NOT  CHANGE THE APPOINTMENTS UNLESS  THEY WANT TO.  THOSE WILL BE  CARRIED OVER INTO THE RESO  RESOLUTIONS.  >> Chairman Kelly:  THANK YOU  FOR REITERATING THAT.  I THINK  WHEN WE TAKE A STEP BACK THE  REASON -- OR PART OF THE REASON  WE\'RE HAVING SO MUCH  CONVERSATION ON THIS IS BECAUSE  THERE HAS BEEN A DIRECT  INITIATIVE FROM THE TEAM TO  PROVIDE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR  INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS TO  APPOINT MORE PEOPLE TO THESE  VARIOUS BOARDS.  PREVIOUSLY IT  WAS JUST THE CHAIR.  AND  RECOGNIZING THE COLLABORATIVE  NATURE OF THIS BOARD, WE WANTED  TO SPREAD IT OUT TO EVERYBODY TO  ALLOW FOR SOME MORE OPPORTUNITY  FOR REPRESENTATION SAKE.  THAT  DOESN\'T COME WITHOUT SOME  PROCEDURAL HURDLES.  SO THANK  YOU FOR YOUR GRACE DURING THIS  PROCESS AND THE HOPES THAT WE  HAVE REALLY ROBUST COMMISSIONS  MOVING FORWARD.  COMMISSIONER  BREWER.  >> Commissioner Brewer:  JUST A  COMMENT AND PROCESS.  ONE --  THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND  I THINK IT\'S IMPORTANT TO  UNDERSCORE THIS WAS ALL DONE  WITH THOSE COUNCILS, BOARDS, AND  COMMITTEES.  I SERVE AS THE  LIAISON TO JCAB SO I WAS AT THAT  MEETING WHEN THEY WERE GOING  THROUGH THE CHANGES IN --  PROPOSED CHANGES TO THEIR  BYLAWS.  THEY RECOGNIZED THAT BY  ASSIGNING COMMISSION DISTRICTS  LIKE A CERTAIN PROFESSION OR  AREA OF EXPERTISE, THAT COULD  IMPACT.  WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION   THAT COULD IMPACT SOMEONE\'S  APPOINTMENT.  SO THIS WAS  CERTAINLY DONE WITH THOSE  COUNCIL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS,  NOT TOO THEM.  >> NOT ALL OF THEM HAD THAT  DISCUSSION.  >> Commissioner Brewer:  I WOULD  SAY THAT IS MY EXPERIENCE.  BUT  A PROCESS QUESTION FOR YOU.  NOW  THAT WE HAVE AN ASSIGNMENT OF A  PARTICULAR AREA OF EXPERTISE,  WOULD IT BE EASIER RATHER THAN  TO CHANGE THE RESOLUTION TO  MATCH SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO TAKE  SOMEBODY WHO IS IN ONE EXPERTISE  AND TRADE IT WITH SOMEBODY  ELSES?  WOULD IT BE PERMISSIBLE  TO SAY DISTRICT TWO HAS THEIR  PROFESSION AREA IS WHO MY  APPOINTMENT IS FROM DISTRICT  THREE AND WE JUST -- IF THE  COMMISSIONERS IS AMENABLE, THEY  WOULD REAPPOINT MY PERSON AND  THEN THAT WAY YOU ARE NOT HAVING  TO CHANGE YOUR RESOLUTION  LANGUAGE?  I THINK YOU\'RE TRYING  TOO TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS  EVERGREEN GOING FORWARD, YOU ARE  TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS  IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATUES  OR ORIGINAL ORGANIZATION AND  MAKE SURE THESE DIFFERENT AREAS  OF EXPERTISE ARE COVERED.  AND  YOU CAN\'T DO IT IF YOU DON\'T  ASSIGN US THE DIFFERENT AREAS.   OTHERWISE WE RUN THE RISK OF  DUPLICATING AND HAVING SIX  EDUCATORS AND NOBODY FROM  HEALTHCARE.  IS THAT PERMISSIBLE  AS WELL THAT WE CAN DO SOME  INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS IF  THERE IS SOMEBODY WE WOULD LIKE  TO SEE KEPT AND PROPOSE THAT TO  THE PERSON THAT HAS THAT  PROFESSION AREA AND NOT HAVE YOU  TO CONSTANTLY REVISE YOUR  DOCUMENT?  >> Peg Trent:  THAT WOULD BE  MOST HELPFUL AND I WOULD  ENCOURAGE THAT COMMUNICATION  LEVEL IN DOING THAT.  WE DO HAVE HAVE A STARTING  POINT.  BUT WE CAN MOVE THINGS  AROUND IF YOU PREFER RIGHT NOW  AS WE START OUT.  BUT MOVING  INTO THE FUTURE, THAT\'S WHAT I  WOULD RECOMMEND.  BUT THAT GIVES  YOU AN OPPORTUNITY.  AND I THINK  THAT GOES ON NOW APPROACHING THE  CHAIR AND DIFFERENT PEEP, HEY, I  HAVE AN APPOINTMENT, A  NOMINATION, WOULD YOU CONSIDER?   I THINK THAT IS GOING ON.  BUT  YEAH, THAT CAN CONTINUE.  >> Commissioner Brewer:  THANK  YOU.  >> Commissioner Allenbrand:  ONE  FOLLOW UP.  >> Commissioner Ashcraft:    COMMISSIONER AL --  >> Chairman Kelly:  COMMISSIONER  ALLENBRAND.  >> Commissioner Allenbrand:    THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.  LOOKING AT THE BOARDS, THERE WAS  NOBODY THAT LIVED IN OUR  DISTRICT.  SO BEING ABLE TO  APPOINT SOMEBODY WHO LIVES IN  OUR DISTRICT THAT HAS THE  EXPERTISE I THINK IS VITAL.  I  HAVE ALREADY STARTED ON MINE.  I  HOPE YOU DON\'T CHANGE A BUNCH OF  THINGS.  I HAVE REACHED OUT TO  THE STAFF PERSON AND SOMETIMES  SOMEBODY WHO IS CHAIRING AND  THEY HAVE BEEN VERY OPEN AND  HONEST.  I JUST DID AN  APPOINTMENT THAT IS ACTUALLY IN  BREWER\'S DISTRICT.  NOT IN MINE   BUT SOMEBODY WHO SERVED FOR A  LONG TIME AND HAS DONE A GREAT  JOB.  SO I WANTED TO GO AHEAD  AND REAPPOINT HIM.  YOU OWE ME  ONE BREWER.  >> Chairman Kelly:  THANK YOU  EVERYBODY FOR YOUR ROBUST  DISCUSSION AS IT RELATES TO JCAB  AND CCAB.  HOPEFULLY --  ( LAUGHTER )  HOPEFULLY THIS WILL HELP US ON  SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS TO COME  ON THE VARIOUS COMMISSIONS AND  WE GOT IT ALL OUT OF OUR SYSTEM   THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  ( LAUGHTER )  ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE.   MADAM, CLERK.  RESOLUTION NO. 023-25.R  ADOPTING RESOLUTION NO. 023-25  TO REORGANIZE THE SOLID WASTE  MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE.  >> Chairman Kelly: CHARLIE  HUNT.  >> CHARLIE HUNT:  THANK YOU,  COMMISSIONERS.  I WILL SKIP MOST  OF THE BACKGROUND CONSIDERING  THE LAST DISCUSSION.  THE SOLID  WASTE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE IS  ONE REQUIRED BY STATE STATUE.   IT WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED I  BELIEVE IN 1970.  AND THE STATE  STATUE AND THE RESOLUTIONS HAVE  CHANGED OVER TIME SINCE THEN.   THE CURRENT RESOLUTION WAS  ADOPTED IN 1993.  AND SO OF  COURSE WE ARE UPDATING IT AS  PART OF THE OVERALL PROCESS  HERE.  WITH THAT A COUPLE QUICK  COMMENTS REGARDING THE  MEMBERSHIP.  IT\'S UNDERSTANDING  OUR CURRENT MEMBERS THAT WOULD  LIKE TO SERVE AGAIN ARE  ELIGIBLE.  AND SO YOU ALL CAN  CONSIDER THOSE APPOINTMENTS WHEN  THINGS MOVE FORWARD.  AND THEN ALSO THE WAY THAT WE  HAVE STRUCTURED THINGS, WE DO  HAVE THE QUALIFICATIONS SPLIT  OUT BY COMMISSIONER BY THOSE  APPOINTMENTS.  WITH THAT I WOULD  BE HAPPY TO STAND FOR ANY  ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.  >> Chairman Kelly:  QUESTIONS  SPECIFIC TO THE SOLID WASTE  MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE?   COMMISSIONER ASHCRAFT.  >> Commissioner Ashcraft:  THANK  YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.  MR. HUNT,  THIS STATUE WAS -- OR THIS  COMMITTEE WAS CREATED IN 1993?  >> CHARLIE HUNT:  THE CURRENT  MAKEUP WAS.  BUT THE ORIGINAL  ONE WAS IN 1970.  >> Commissioner Ashcraft:  BUT  1993, THAT IS STILL A PRETTY  LONG TIME AGO.  IS THAT  SOMETHING THAT IS UNDER OUR  LEGISLATIVE REVIEW TO SEE IF IT  NEEDS TO BE UPDATED?  BECAUSE  I\'M JUST THINKING THAT THE WORLD  HAS CHANGED QUITE A BIT AND THE  QUALIFICATIONS OF THE GENERAL  POPULATION AND NEEDS IN THE  90s IS DIFFERENT THAN IT IS IN  THE 2020s.  SO I JUST OFFER  THAT AS AN OBSERVATION.  I HAVE  NO OBJECTIONS.  >> CHARLIE HUNT:  THANK YOU.  >> Chairman Kelly:  COMMISSIONER  BREWER.  >> Commissioner Brewer:  MY  QUESTION WAS AROUND THIS IS A  UNIQUE BODY IN THE SENSE THAT  WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE  MEMBERSHIP -- I APOLOGIZE I\'M  GOING TO THE MEMBERSHIP.  IT\'S  MORE OF A REGIONAL.  IS THAT  WHAT I\'M UNDERSTANDING?  THAT  THE DISTRICT SERVES, BUT THAT  DOESN\'T MEAN -- IT INCLUDES  JOHNSON, LEVNWORTH, RAY, AND  MISSOURI.  DOES THAT MEAN THE  COMMITTEE HAS REPRESENTATION  FROM ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT  AREAS?  OR THIS AS A BODY WORKS  WITH SIMILAR BODIES?  >> CHARLIE HUNT:  THE MAKEUPS  CAN BE DRAWN FROM RESIDENTS OF  THOSE OTHER COUNTIES.  SOLID  WASTE MANAGEMENT IS A REGIONAL  ISSUE.  AND THERE IS EXPERTISE  THAT LIES WITHIN THE REGION AS A  WHOLE AND MAY NOT BE PRESENT  JUST AMONG JOHNSON COUNTY  RESIDENTS.  >> Commissioner Brewer:  SO WILL  THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS HAVE TO  ALSO SIGN OFF ON THIS RESOLUTION  JUST AS THIS BODY IS DOING?  HOW  DOES THAT WORK?  >> CHARLIE HUNT:  EACH COUNTY IS  REQUIRED TO HAVE A SOLID WASTE  MANAGEMENT PLAN.  THEY HAVE  THEIR OWN.  BUT IT\'S JUST WITH  OUR SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT,  THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH EXPERTISE  THAT DO NOT RESIDE IN JOHNSON  COUNTY THAT CAN SERVE ON OUR  COMMITTEE.  SO IT HAS NOTHING TO  DO WITH THE JURISDICTION THAT  THEY LIVE IN NECESSARILY.  >> Commissioner Brewer:  THANK  YOU.  SO IT JUST MEANS WE CAN  THROW A LITTLE BIT WIDER NET TO  MAKE SURE WE HAVE REPRESENTATION  THAT ACCOMPLISHES THE CHARGE OF  THIS GROUP.  >> CHARLIE HUNT:  THAT IS  CORRECT.  AND I WILL POINT OUT  THE STATE STATUE SPELLS OUT THE  QUALIFICATIONS THAT ARE TO BE  INCLUDED ON THE SOLID WASTE  MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE.  >> Commissioner Brewer:  I  APPRECIATE THAT.  >> Chairman Kelly:  COMMISSIONER  ALLENBRAND.  >> Commissioner Allenbrand:    THANK YOU, CHAIR.  IF YOU HAVE  SOMEBODY SERVING ON THERE THAT  WANTS TO CONTINUE THAT IS AROUND  IN ANY DISTRICT, LET ME KNOW.  >> CHARLIE HUNT:  CERTAINLY.  >> Chairman Kelly:  THANK YOU  VERY MUCH, MR. HUNT.  ITEM  NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE.  >> Clerk:    RESOLUTION NO. 036-25. CONSIDER  ADOPTING RESOLUTION NO. 036-25  TO REORGANIZE THE CRIMINAL  JUSTICE ADVISORY COUNCIL (CJAC)  AND APPROVE AND ADOPT BYLAWS FOR  THE CJAC.  >> Chairman Kelly: MIKE BROUWER  BACK BEFORE US.  >> MIKE BROUWER:  MIKE BROUWER  CRIMINAL JUSTICE COORDINATOR.   THIS HAS BEEN A FANTASTIC  PROCESS FOR THIS CJAC AS WE HAVE  LOOKED AT UPDATING OUR BYLAWS.   THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF  CORRECTIONS CREATED NATIONAL  STANDARDS FOR COORDINATING  COUNSELS.  ROBERT SULLIVAN AND  MYSELF WERE ABLE TO SERVE ON  THAT STEERING COMMITTEE AND WORK  ON THAT DOCUMENT.  AND SO PART  OF THE WORK OF THE CJAC OVER  LAST YEAR IS BRINGING OUR BYLAWS  IN CONGRUENT WITH THE NATIONAL  STANDARDS.  AND IT WAS A REAL  PRIVILEGE WORKING WITH ETHAN  BROWN IN LEGAL AS A LOT OF THE  RECOMMENDATIONS THAT OUR LEGAL  TEAM HAD IN BRINGING OUR BYLAWS  TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE REST  OF THOSE JOHNSON COUNTY BOARDS  WERE ACTUALLY MIRRORING THE  NATIONAL STANDARDS.  SO WE ARE  EXCITED ABOUT THAT.  ONE HIGHLIGHT IS THAT THE -- WE  DID MAKE A COUPLE OF CHANGES IN  MEMBERSHIP TO THE COUNCIL THAT  WE\'RE RECOMMENDING TO YOU.  ONE  IS THAT WE HAD THREE COUNTY  STAFF MEMBERS THAT WERE VOTING  MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.  AND  WILL STILL BE ON PARTICIPATES AS  THEIR VALUE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO  THE COUNCIL.  AND THEN WE ARE  INCREASING FROM ONE PERSON WITH  LIVED EXPERIENCE IN THE CRIMINAL  JUSTICE SYSTEM SERVING ON THE  COUNCIL TO THREE.  WE\'RE LOOKING  FOR AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS  EXPERIENCE AS A JUVENILE IN THE  SYSTEM.  AND THEN WE HAVE A  FANTASTIC INDIVIDUAL WHO IS A  GRADUATE OR A VETERANS COURT  REPRESENTING AN ADULT WITH  EXPERIENCE IN THE SYSTEM.  AND  THEN WE ARE LOOKING FOR A PARENT  OR LOVED ONE OF SOMEONE WITH  EXPERIENCE IN A CRIMINAL JUSTICE  SYSTEM.  THE IDEA IS THAT IT\'S A LOT FOR  ONE PERSON TO REPRESENT SUCH A  BROAD GROUP AND BY BRINGING  THREE TO THE COUNCIL, HOPEFULLY  WE INCREASE THEIR VOICE AND  THEIR CONFIDENCE IN SHARING  THEIR EXPERIENCES AND KNOWLEDGE  WITH US.  THE COUNCIL APPROVED CHANGES TO  THE BYLAWS ON MARCH 4th LAST  MONTH.  IT WAS UNANIMOUS.  AND  THEN THE COUNCIL ALSO  APPROVED -- OR RECOMMENDED --  APPROVAL RECOMMENDATION TO YOU  TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION BEFORE  YOU.  SO I WILL STAND FOR  QUESTIONS.  >> Chairman Kelly:  THANK YOU,  MIKE.  COMMISSIONER ASHCRAFT.  >> Commissioner Ashcraft:  JUST  A QUICK QUESTION, MR. BROUWER.   IS THAT LOCAL EXPERIENCE WITH  THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM OR  GENERAL EXPERIENCE?  >> MIKE BROUWER:  GREAT  QUESTION.  THAT IS SOMETHING WE  CONSIDERED AT THE TIME.  AND THE  PREFERENCE WOULD BE FOR SOMEONE  WITH LOCAL EXPERIENCE, BUT  RECOGNIZING WE ARE PART OF A  GREATER METROPOLITAN AREA AND  SIMPLY IF SOMEONE IS WILLING TO  VOLUNTEER THAT KIND OF TIME AND  WE\'VE ALL THE PASSION MORE.  >> Commissioner Ashcraft:  THANK  YOU.  >> Chairman Kelly:  ALL RIGHT,  THANK YOU MR. BROUWER.  WE WILL  ASK THE CLERK TO R READ ITEM FI.  >> Clerk:    RESOLUTION NO. 048-25. CONSIDER  ADOPTING RESOLUTION NO. 048-25  TO REORGANIZE THE PUBLIC ART  COMMISSION.  >> Chairman Kelly: KYLE HELTNE  IS HERE TO DISCUSS.  >> KYLE HELTNE:  GOOD MORNING,  CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.  KYLE  HELTNE.  THIS IS TO ALIGN THE  PUBLIC ART COMMISSION WITH OTHER  COUNTY BOARDS AND COMMITTEES FOR  LEGAL REVIEW AS DIRECTED BY THIS  BOARD EARLIER THIS YEAR.  AS  NOTED IN THE BRIEFING SHEET, THE  JOHNSON COUNTY PUBLIC ART  COMMISSION WAS ESTABLISHED IN  2006 AND SERVES AS AN ADVISORY  COMMISSION TO THE BOCC AND  RESPONSIBLE FOR ADMINISTERING  THE COUNTY\'S PUBLIC ART PROGRAM   TWO ITEMS I WOULD NOTE IF  APPROVED, THIS ITEM WILL REMOVE  THE DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES  MANAGEMENT OR THEIR DESIGNEE AS  A VOTING MEMBER, AND THE BOCC  CHAIR WILL HAVE TWO APPOINTEES  TO THE NINE-MEMBER COMMISSION.   THIS RESOLUTION WILL NOT MAKE  ANY CHANGES TO THE PUBLIC ART  PROGRAM ITSELF.  AND WITH THAT,  I\'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY  QUESTIONS.  >> Chairman Kelly:  THANK YOU,  MR. HELTNE.  SEEING NO QUESTIONS  OR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.  THANK  YOU VERY MUCH.  >> THANK YOU.  >> Chairman Kelly:  ITEM NUMBER  SIX PLEASE.  >>   RESOLUTION NO. 001-25.  CONSIDER  ADOPTING RESOLUTION NO. 001-25  TO REORGANIZE AND REESTABLISH  THE QUALIFICATIONS AND  APPOINTMENT PROCESS AND DUTIES  OF MEMBERS OF THE JOHNSON COUNTY  MENTAL HEALTH ADVISORY BOARD.  >> Chairman Kelly: TANNER IS  HERE TO DISCUSS THIS.  >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.  FOR  A NUMBER OF YEARS, THE MENTAL  HEALTH USED TO HAVE A GOVERNING  BOARD SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SAW AT  JCDS AND OTHER DEPARTMENT  AGENCIES.  THAT WAS CHANGED 10  TO 12 YEARS AGO WHERE WE HAVE AN  ADVISORY BOARD AT THIS TIME.   AND WE DO HAVE AS PART OF THE  GOVERNING BOARD MODEL OR CHOOSE  TO HAVE THE ADVISORY BOARD WHICH  WE HAD FOR MANY YEARS, THERE ARE  QUALIFICATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS  FOR THE MEMBERSHIP OF THOSE  COMMITTEE MEMBERS.  SO WE DO  HAVE TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS FROM  THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, INDIVIDUALS  THAT HAVE LIVED MENTAL HEALTH  EXPERIENCE, MEDICAL  PROFESSIONALS, AND OTHERS FROM  THE LEGAL PROFESSION TO NAME A  FEW.  THIS WILL MAKE A FEW  CHANGES TO THE MEMBERSHIP AND  THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS OF THE  BOARD.  AND I WILL ALSO ALLOW  LEGAL TO CERTAINLY JUMP IN ON  THIS, BUT WE HAVE HISTORICALLY  HAD ABOUT 13 MEMBERS ON OUR  ADVISORY BOARD.  THAT NUMBER  WILL BE INCREASING TO 15  MEMBERS.  AND THE APPOINTMENT  PROCESS WILL CHANGE TO WHERE IT  HAS USUALLY BEEN APPOINTED BY  THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD.  THAT  WILL BE CHANGED TO WHERE THERE  ARE CERTAIN MEMBERS ALLOWED TO  BE APPOINTMENTED BY THE  INDIVIDUAL DISTRICT  COMMISSIONERS THEMSELVES.  AND  THERE WILL BE AS MENTIONED  EARLIER, STAGGERING OF THE TERMS  TO BEGIN WITH AND MEMBERS WILL  SERVE A THREE-YEAR TERM AND WE  CONTINUE TO HAVE A BOARD OF  COUNTY COMMISSIONER NONVOTING  LIAISON THAT IS PART OF THE  BOARD ITSELF.  WITH THAT I WILL  BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY  QUESTIONS.  >> Chairman Kelly:  THANK YOU  VERY MUCH, SIR.  COMMISSIONER  HANZLICK, GO AHEAD.  >> Commissioner Hanzlick:  THANK  YOU, MR. FORTNEY FOR MENTIONING  THE HISTORY THAT THIS BODY USED  TO BE A GOVERNING BOARD.  AND  I\'M NOT ASKING YOU TO ANSWER  THIS RIGHT NOW, BUT AT SOME  POINT I KNOW I WOULD LIKE TO  KNOW IF THERE IS ANY ADVICE OR  ADVOCACY FROM THE MENTAL HEALTH  LEADERSHIP TO GO BACK TO A  GOVERNING BOARD MODEL AND MAYBE  THAT\'S PROBABLY A CONVERSATION  FOR ANOTHER DAY.  BUT I WOULD BE  INTERESTED IN KNOWING MORE ABOUT  THAT.  >> Chairman Kelly:  COMMISSIONER  ASHCRAFT.  >> Commissioner Ashcraft:  THANK  YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.  AS I  MENTIONED EARLIER, I BELIEVE  COMMISSIONER FAST AND I WOULD  LIKE TO MEET WITH MS. TRENT ON  THIS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN WORK  OUT IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE  ASSIGNMENTS.  I HAVE NO  OBJECTIONS TO THE PROCESS.  >> Chairman Kelly:  COMMISSIONER  FAST.  >> Commissioner Fast:  YEAH,  IT\'S REALLY IMPORTANT I TALK TO  COMMISSIONER HANZLICK ABOUT  JUSTIN SHEPHERD.  HE\'S REALLY  IMPORTANT HAVING ON THAT BOARD.   HE IS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, HE  WORKS WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH  INTERVENTION TEAM, AND ALSO TO  HAVE JUDGE WARNALL ON THERE.   AND THAT IS MY CONCERN IS PEOPLE  LIKE THIS ARE GOING TO BE LOST.   SO I DON\'T KNOW, YOU\'RE GOING TO  HAVE TO WORK WITH THE COMMISSION  AND THAT\'S OVERLAND PARK.  I LET  COMMISSIONER HANZLICK KNOW ABOUT  HIM.  BUT IT WOULD BE A HUGE  LOSS NOT TO HAVE A LAW  ENFORCEMENT WHO WORKS IN MENTAL  HEALTH ON THAT BOARD AND NOT TO  HAVE JUDGE   AND NOT TO HAVE A JUDGE WHO  WORKS IN MENTAL HEALTH ON THAT  BOARD.  >> I WILL ALSO LET MS. TRENT  JUMP IN AS WELL.  IT WOULDN\'T  REALLY CHANGE BECAUSE WE HAVE  STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS THAT  REQUIRES PEOPLE TO FILL THOSE  DIFFERENT BUCKETS.  WE HAVE TO  HAVE A MEMBER OF THE JUDICIARY  ON THERE.  JUDGE WORNALL AND  SOME OTHER INDIVIDUAL WOULD NEED  TO BE ON THE BOARD.  AGAIN, WE  HAVE TO HAVE MEDICAL  PROFESSIONALS, OR CONSUMERS WITH  FAMILY MEMBERS THEREOF.  SO WE  WOULDN\'T SEEN IT GO AWAY FROM A  GENERAL APPOINTMENT PROCESS,  ALTHOUGH WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE  MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC  THAT ARE ALSO ON THE BOARD, TOO.  >> Commissioner Fast: BUT THAT\'S  JUSTIN\'S FULL-TIME JUDGE, AND  THE AVERAGE JUDGE.  SO HAVING  PEOPLE ALSO WHO WORK IN THAT  SPECIALTY.  >> CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, TO  ANSWER COMMISSIONER FAST, AND  MAYBE I DIDN\'T EXPLAIN THAT AND  UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU WERE  ASKING EARLIER, SO I APOLOGIZE  FOR THE CONFUSION.  IN THE EXCEL  SPREADSHEET, YOU WILL SEE WHERE  YOU HAVE STATUTORILY MANDATED  DISTRICT JUDGES, POLICE OFFICERS  OR CERTAIN THINGS.  THOSE ARE  NOT BEING APPOINTED BY THE  BOARD.  THOSE ARE AUTOMATICALLY   JUST LIKE THE MAYORS ON THE  STORM -- I THINK IT WAS ON THE  SOLID WASTE -- WE WILL HAVE  THOSE AUTOMATICALLY CARRYING  OVER.  THOSE WILL NOT BE BOARD.   BUT THEY WILL BE REAPPOINTED IN  THE RESOLUTION.  ONLY THOSE THAT  ARE CITIZENS THAT ARE REQUIRING  DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS TO  APPOINT.  SO YOU HAVE TWO  CATEGORIES ON SOME OF THESE  BOARDS.  ONE ARE STATUTORY  MANDATED.  THOSE WILL GET  CARRIED OVER AS APPOINTMENTS.   IT\'S THE BOCC THAT NORMALLY THE  CHAIR IS APPOINTING AND WE ARE  NOW DISTRIBUTING THOSE JUST FOR  CLARIFICATION.  >> Chairman Kelly: THANK YOU  VERY MUCH.  COMMISSIONER BREWER.  >> Commissioner Brewer: THAT WAS  KIND OF THE HEART OF MY  QUESTION.  THANK YOU, MS. TRENT   UNLIKE THE C CAP AND THE J CAP  THAT WE LOOKED AT EARLIER, WHEN  I LOOK AT THIS RESOLUTION, WHAT  THOSE OTHER RESOLUTIONS DID, WAS  THEY LISTED OUT THE  SPECIALITIES, SO WE KNOW THEY  WERE CARRYING OVER, AND WE EACH  GOT ONE APPOINTMENT.  HOW IT  READS TO ME, AND MAYBE I\'M NOT  READING IT CORRECTLY, I STILL  SEE ASSIGNMENTS OF THE CERTAIN  TYPES OF PROFESSIONS, BUT  INSTEAD OF MAYBE TAKING OUT THE  CORE ONES AND LISTING THEM AS  THOSE ARE GOING TO BE  APPOINTMENTS, NOT BY US, BUT BE  APPOINTMENTS AND GETTING US EACH  ONE, YOU ARE GIVING US TWO, AND  THE RESOLUTION IS GIVING US TWO,  AND IT\'S KIND OF EMBEDDING  WITHIN THOSE TWO, THOSE  SPECIALITIES.  I WAS CURIOUS ON  WHY FOR THIS WE DIDN\'T HAVE THAT  SIMILAR TO C CAB AND JCAB WHERE  WE PULL THOSE OUT AND THEY KIT  ON THE OWN AND WE HAVE THE ONE  IN THE BROADER CATEGORY.  I  DIDN\'T UNDERSTAND THE  DIFFERENCE, ESPECIALLY IN  CONTEXT OF THE CONVERSATION  THAT\'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.  >> CHAIR, AND COMMISSIONERS,  THAT\'S STYLISTIC AND MAYBE WAS  DONE THAT WAY THROUGH THAT BOARD  AND THAT ATTORNEY.  WE CAN TAKE  A LOOK AT IT BEFORE YOUR  MEETING, AND I CAN REVISE THAT  ACCORDINGLY TO BE ALIGNED SO YOU  ARE JUST LOOKING AT YOUR  APPOINTMENTS AND NOT THE  JUDGE\'S.  WE CAN DO THAT.   THAT\'S AN EASY FIX.  I WILL RED LINE IT SO YOU CAN  SEE WHAT I CHANGE.  AND I  APOLOGIZE, COMMISSIONER FAST, I  DIDN\'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE  SAYING, SO IT\'S ON ME.   SOMETIMES YOU HAVE GOT TO HEAR  IT IN DIFFERENT WAYS OF ASKING  THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU  COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT  YOU\'RE ASKING.  SO WE CAN AMEND  THAT.  >> Commissioner Fast: THE CHAIR  HAS NO DESIGNATION FOR LAW  ENFORCEMENT, HAS MENTAL ILLNESS,  LEGAL PROFESSION OR ONE JUDGE  AND COMMUNITY MEMBER.  I GUESS  YOU COULD USE A PROIFER THERE,  POLICE OFFICERTHERE.  >> WE WILL PUT THAT IN THE  SECOND CATEGORY LIKE WE HAVE  DONE ON THE OTHERS, AND WE WILL  TAKE CARE OF THAT.  THAT SHOULD  RESOLVE THE ISSUE.  THANK YOU  FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR  ATTENTION.  >> Chairman Kelly: THANK YOU.   NO FURTHER QUESTIONS THERE.   THANK YOU, MR. FORTNEY.  ITEM  NO. 7, PLEASE.  >> CLERK: IFB #2025-018.  CONSIDER AUTHORIZING TERM AND  SUPPLY CONTRACTS WITH MULTIPLE  VENDORS FOR THE PURCHASE OF ROCK  PRODUCTS, IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO  EXCEED $750,000 FOR A PERIOD OF  ONE (1) YEAR WITH THE OPTION TO  RENEW FOR FOUR (4) ADDITIONAL  ONE (1) YEAR PERIODS.  >> Chairman Kelly: WES ROOT HERE  FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS  DEPARTMENT.  WELCOME.  >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN AND  COMMISSIONERS.  THIS IS OUR ROCK  PRODUCTS CONTRACT THAT WE ARE  MAINTAINING IMPROVING COUNTY  ROADS, INCLUDING RESURFACING  ROCKS, AND THE PROCUREMENT  PROCESS AND COUNTY POLICIES, WE  RECEIVED FOUR BIDS AND THEY WILL  SET UNIT PRICES FOR EACH OF THE  15 DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS OR ROCK  ITEMS THAT WE USE.  THESE UNIT  PRICES ARE BASED ON ESTIMATED  QUANTITIES.  WE WILL ONLY  AUTHORIZE EXPENDITURES WITHIN  OUR ANNUAL BUDGET.  WE RECOMMEND  UNIT PRICE CONTRACTS WITH ALL  FOUR QUARRIES, AND THIS APPROACH  GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY TO  PURCHASE FROM THE QUARRY WITH  THE BEST VALUE BASED ON THE  PRICE OF THE PRODUCT AND THE  COST OF HAUL DISTANCE FROM THE  QUARRY TO THE LOCATION THAT WE  ARE USING THE ROCK.  I  APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION  AND WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY  QUESTIONS.  >> Chairman Kelly: MR. ROOT,  THANK YOU.  QUESTIONS?   COMMISSIONER MEYERS.  >> Commissioner Meyers: THANK  YOU, CHAIR.  I JUST WANT TO MAKE  A COMMENT, BECAUSE IN READING  THE BRIEFING SHEET, I THINK IT  NEEDS TO BE REITERATED TO THE  PUBLIC WHAT WE ARE SEEING AS A  BOARD AND THROUGH OUR  DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT OUR  ORGANIZATION.  THE WAY OF DOING  BUSINESS AND THE PRICE OF DOING  BUSINESS IS DRASTICALLY  CHANGING.  WE WILL SEE ANOTHER  EXAMPLE A LITTLE BIT LATER ON  WITH ANOTHER ITEM THAT WE ARE  GOING TO BE SEEING HERE SHORTLY,  BUT IN THE BRIEFING SHEET, IT  SAYS IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE  ROCK PRODUCT MAY BE SPECIAL  WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR 80% OF OUR  ROCK USAGE, AND HAS INCREASED BY  79% IN THE LAST 5 YEARS AND 30%  SINCE 2024.  THAT\'S NOT NORMAL.   THAT\'S A DRASTIC CHANGE, AND  THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS  THAT I THINK WE NEED TO  REITERATE TO THE PUBLIC, THESE  ARE SOME OF THE COSTS, RISING  COSTS THAT WE ARE SEEING AS A  BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS  THROUGHOUT OUR DEPARTMENTS.   THIS IS JUST ONE ITEM.  THIS IS  JUST ROCK.  WE CAN TALK ABOUT  CONCRETE.  WE CAN TALK ABOUT  ASPHALT.  WE CAN TALK ABOUT SO  MANY DIFFERENT THINGS FROM  DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, BUT I  JUST WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND  IT\'S NOT A NORMAL PROCESS OF  DOING BUSINESS OF WHAT WE\'VE  SEEN IN THE PAST.  IT\'S A  DRASTIC  >> Chairman Kelly: THANK YOU  VERY MUCH FOR THAT.  I THINK ONE  OF THE THINGS THAT MAY BE  SOMEWHAT EITHER INDICATIVE OF  THAT OR MAYBE A LITTLE  PERPLEXING WITHIN THE BRIEFING  SHEET, YOU ARE ASKING FOR A  CONTRACT IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO  EXCEED 750,000, RIGHT.  >> YES.  >> Chairman Kelly: FOUR  RESPONSIVE BIDS WERE NORTH OF  1.5 MILLION.  >> WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR BID, WE  USED THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF ITEMS  WE USED ON EACH LINE ITEM.  WE  ADJUSTED HERE.  SO WE ARE NOT  GOING TO USE EVERYTHING THAT WE  POSSIBLY BE LOOKING FOR EVERY  YEAR.  WE WILL USE, AS HE HAD  MENTIONED, WE WILL USE A LOT OF  AB SPECIAL EVERY YEAR, 30 MILES  OF GRAVEL ROADS.  RIFT RAFT  AROUND THE CULVERTS, AND CLEAN  ROCK, AND WE DON\'T USE AS LARGE  OF A QUANTITY, IT DEPENDS ON THE  CULVERT OPERATIONS.  WE PUT THE  QUANTITY IN THERE SO WE ARE  PREPARED, BUT WE DON\'T EXPECT TO  HAVE TO EXCEED OUR BUDGET FOR  THAT YEAR.  >> Chairman Kelly: DESPITE THE  BIDS, WHICH WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM  QUANTITIES FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT  PRODUCTS, YOU DON\'T EXPECT THAT  YOU WOULD USE MORE THAN $750,000  OF ALL OF THESE IN AGGREGATE, NO  PUN INTENDED.  >> YES.  >> Chairman Kelly: COMMISSIONER  BREWER.  >> Commissioner Brewer: YOU  ASKED THE QUESTION I WAS GOING  TO HAVE, BECAUSE THAT\'S WHAT I  WAS CONFUSED ABOUT.  WE ARE  ASKING FOR SPENDING, CEILING,  BUT THE BIDS ARE RADICALLY  DIFFERENT FROM SPENDING AND  CEILING.  MAY I SUGGEST BETWEEN  THIS WEEK AND NEXT WEEK, THE  BRIEFING SHEET MAYBE BE AMENDED  TO EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT  BETTER?  BECAUSE IF THIS IS OUR  PUBLIC DOCUMENT THAT\'S IN OUR  PACKETS, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE A  LOT OF FOLKS, IN ADDITION TO  THOSE OF US ON THE DAIS, WHO ARE  SCRATCHING OUR HEAD A LITTLE BIT  ABOUT HOW CAN YOU MEET YOUR ROCK  NEEDS AT A SPENDING CAP OF  750,000 IF ALL YOUR BIDS WERE  NORTH OF A MILLION DOLLARS.   HAVING SOME TYPE OF EXPLANATION  OF HOW YOU ARE GOING TO MANAGE  THE NEED OF THE ROCK AND MANAGE  THE NEED OF THE SPENDING CAP IN  THE BRIEFING SHEET, I THINK,  WOULD BE HELPFUL TO US.  >> THANK YOU.  >> Chairman Kelly: COMMISSIONER  ASHCRAFT.  >> Commissioner Ashcraft: THANK  YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.  MR. ROOT,  WELCOME BACK.  MR. CHAIRMAN AND  COMMISSIONER BREWER, I  APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTIONS.  THE  BRIEFING SHEETS ARE A MEMORIAL  TO THE INFORMATION GIVEN TO US  THAT ALLOWS US TO BASE OUR  DECISION UPON THE FACTS  PRESENTED.  AS STAFF HAS TRIED  TO EXPLAIN, THE PROCESS THAT WE  GO THROUGH IS TO LIST OUT ALL  THE PRODUCTS AND THEN ALLOW  STAFF TO PICK AND CHOOSE BASED  UPON A PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE  OR NEED FOR A PRODUCT TO FIND  THE BEST AVAILABLE PRICE.  THAT  CLARIFICATION IS HARD TO EXPRESS  IN A TWO-PAGE BRIEFING SHEET.   ALTHOUGH I AGREE WITH  COMMISSIONER BREWER.  YOU MIGHT  TRY TO FRAME IT THAT WAY AND  TALK TO US TO REPRESENT HOW  STUPID WE ARE TO OUR PROFESSION   I MEAN, YOU GUYS LIVE AND WORK  THIS STUFF EVERY DAY, AND YOU  UNDERSTAND TO A DEGREE THAT WE  HAVE TROUBLE FOLLOWING  SOMETIMES.  I\'M SUPPORTIVE OF  THIS.  BUT CLARIFICATION GOING  FORWARD WOULD MAKE SENSE, AND IF  YOU WANT TO CLARIFY WITH AN  AMENDMENT TO THIS ONE, THAT\'S  OKAY BY ME, TOO.  >> Chairman Kelly: THANK YOU.   ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS  AT THIS TIME?  IF NOT, THANK  YOU, SIR, VERY MUCH.  >> THANK YOU.  >> Chairman Kelly: ITEM NO. 8,  PLEASE.  >> CLERK: RESOLUTION NO. 047-25.  CONSIDER AUTHORIZING JOHNSON  COUNTY TRANSIT TO JOIN AND  PARTICIPATE AS A MEMBER IN THE  NEORIDE REGIONAL COUNCIL OF  GOVERNMENTS.  >> Chairman Kelly: I APOLOGIZE,  THIS IS ITEM NO. 8 ON OUR  AGENDA.  BUT JOSH POWERS,  DIRECTOR OF TRANSIT IS HERE TO  PRESENT THE ITEM.  WELCOME BACK,  SIR.  >> CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS,  THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  GOOD  AFTERNOON.  THIS IS FAIRLY  STRAIGHTFORWARD.  WE ARE SEEKING  YOUR APPROVAL TO JOIN A  PURCHASING CONSORTIUM THAT HAS  GROWN OUT OF ORIGINALLY THREE  TRANSIT AGENCIES IN THE STATE OF  OHIO AND ENCOMPASSES 36 AGENCIES  ACROSS 9 STATES AND REALLY IT  ALLOWS US TO PARTICIPATE IN  COMPETITIVELY BID PURCHASING  PROCESSES, AND IT LOWERS THE  PRICES FOR US, BECAUSE WE ARE  BUYING TYPICALLY IN LARGER BULK   THE REQUIREMENTS ARE THAT OUR  GOVERNING BODY PASS A RESOLUTION  RECOGNIZING WE ARE JOINING THIS  ENTITY THAT HAS ITS OWN BYLAWS.   WE HAVE TO HAVE A PERSON SERVE  ON THE BOARD AS WELL AS AN  ALTERNATE.  SO IT WOULD BE  MYSELF OR DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF  JOHNSON COUNTY TRANSIT.  THERE\'S  AN ANNUAL DUE THAT\'S BASED ON  YOUR RIDERSHIP OR POPULATION  SIMILAR TO THE FEDERAL TRANSIT  FUNDING FORMULAS THAT FOR US  WOULD BE $4,000.  EACH  PROTOURNAMENT RUNS BETWEEN 3 AND  # THOUSAND DOLLARS GENERALLY.   WE REALLY RECOGNIZE SAVINGS  GOING FORWARD.  WE HAVE EXISTING  SOFTWARE RIGHT NOW THAT WE PAY  FOR AND WERE WE TO BE ABLE TO  JOIN KN NEO RIDE IT COULD SAVE S  APPROXIMATELY $10,000 A WOULD  PAY FOR ITSELF.  WITH THAT,  HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.  >> Chairman Kelly: THANK YOU  VERY MUCH.  MR. POWERS,  MR. ASHCRAFT.  >> Commissioner Ashcraft: THANK  YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.  MR.  CHAIRMAN, I\'M SUPPORTIVE OF  THIS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN  MORE ABOUT IT, SO IF WE COULD  VISIT BEFORE NEXT WEEK, I WOULD  APPRECIATE IT.  >> CERTAINLY.  >> Chairman Kelly: THE  PARTICULAR PRODUCTS IN NEO RIDE,  IS IT SOFTWARE OR HARD ITEMS.  >> IT RUNS THE GAMUT.  THERE ARE  VEHICLE BID PURCHASES, SOFTWARE,  ALL KINDS OF PRODUCTS THAT GO  INTO SAFETY AND SECURITY OR  LIFTS, ANYTHING THAT CAN BE  PROCURED FOR A TRANSIT SERVICE.  >> Chairman Kelly: GIVEN THE  AMOUNT IS TO USE A TERM FROM THE  FELLOW COMMISSIONER DE MINIMIS,  THIS COMES BEFORE US, BECAUSE  THE NEO RIDE COLLECTIVE OF  GOVERNMENTS REQUIRES A  RESOLUTION FROM OUR BOARD TO  JOIN.  >> THAT\'S CORRECT.  >> Chairman Kelly: ALL RIGHT.   THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. POWERS   NO. 9, PLEASE.  >> CLERK: CONSIDER APPROVING THE  APRIL 17, 2025, BUSINESS SESSION  MINUTES.  COMMISSIONER HANZLICK ABSENT,  MUST REMAIN ON ACTION  >> Chairman Kelly: THANK YOU  HAVE MUCH.  ANY QUESTIONS ON  THOSE MINUTES?  SEEING NONE,  LET\'S GO TO NO. 10.  >> CLERK: CONSIDER AUTHORIZING A  CONTRACT WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES  SUPPLY (DBA OSAGE AMBULANCES),  FOR THE PURCHASE OF 10  AMBULANCES, PER BUYBOARD  COOPERATIVE CONTRACT 745-24, AND  STRYKER MEDICAL, FOR PATIENT  CONVEYANCE EQUIPMENT, PER THE  SAVVIK COOPERATIVE CONTRACT  #2024-04, UTILIZING FUNDS FROM  THE MED-ACT EQUIPMENT RESERVE  FUND FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO  EXCEED $2,786,214.  >> Chairman Kelly: THANK YOU  VERY MUCH.  SCOTT SARE HERE TO  PRESENT THE ITEM.  WELCOME BACK.  >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR,  COMMISSIONERS.  SCOTT SARE,  JOHNSON COUNTY MED-ACT.  HERE TO  PRESENT THE PURCHASE OF 10  ADDITIONAL AMBULANCES FOR THE  MED-ACT FLEET WITH ALREADY  APPROVED AND BUDGETED DOLLARS,  REALLY WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO  IS GET AHEAD OF SOME OF THE  SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES THAT HAVE  REMAINED SINCE 2020.  WE ARE  CONTINUING TO HAVE TO PUSH OUT  OUR AMBULANCE ORDERS FURTHER AND  FURTHER.  THESE ORDERS HERE  SPECIFICALLY WILL COVER 2026 AND  2027 UNITS THAT WE HAVE HAD TO  PUT ON ORDER NOW DUE TO EXTENDED  LEAD TIMES.  WE ARE OVER 48  MONTHS ADVANCE LEAD TIME TO  ORDER AN AMBULANCE AS OF  YESTERDAY WHEN I SPOKE TO THE  VENDOR.  WE NEED TO PLACE THESE  ORDERS THIS YEAR TO GET THESE  UNITS IN \'26 AND \'7.   ADDITIONALLY WE ARE  COLLABORATING WITH JOHNSON  COUNTY FLEET TO CONTINUE TO  MAINTAIN, FIND ALTERNATIVES WHEN  UNITS CAN\'T BE ORDERED ON A  TIMELY MANNER TO REPOWER  ENGINES, PUT NEW TRANSMISSIONS  IN AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND  THEIVE A TREMENDOUS PARTNER FOR  US.  PREORDERING AMBULANCES IS  CRITICAL TO ENSURE OUR FLEET  RELIABILITY.  MAINTENANCE COST,  AS YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO  INCREASE AS THE FLEET INCREASES  AND MILEAGE INCREASES.  WE HAVE  HISTORICALLY PURCHASED THE  SUPPLY AND PATIENT CONVEYANCE  EQUIPMENT WITH THESE UNITS, AND  THAT\'S WHAT WE WILL BE DOING AS  WELL WITH THIS ORDER, UTILIZING  COOPERATIVE CONTRACTS, AND FUNDS  WERE APPROVED IN THE 2025 BUDGET  PROCESS THROUGH THE RAR AND  CURRENTLY SITTING IN THE RESERVE  FUND.  WITH THAT, I WILL STAND  FOR QUESTIONS.  >> Chairman Kelly: THANK YOU  VERY MUCH, SIR.  TO MAKE THIEWR  I UNDERSTAND MED-ACT IS  REQUESTING TO PLACE THIS ORDER  FOR THE 2026 AND 2027 UNITS NOW.  >> CORRECT.  >> Chairman Kelly: WE ARE  LOOKING AT THE PURCHASE OF 10,  BOTH NEW AND REFURBISHED TO BE  ABLE TO REPLACE AGING  INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUR FLEET., IS  THAT CORRECT.  >> THAT\'S CORRECT.  OF THESE 10  AMBULANCES THREE WILL BE  BRAND-NEW AMBULANCES.  FROM THE  GROUND UP, 7 OF THEM WILL BE A  REMOUNT AGE UNIT AND THAT\'S  WHERE WE KEEP THE EXISTING  MODULE, REFURBISH IT, PUT IT ON  A NEW CHASSIS AND HELPS US WITH  THE SIGNIFICANT COST SAVINGS TO  THE TUNE OF $140,000 PER UNIT.   IT ALSO HELPS TO SPEED UP THE  TURNAROUND TIME ON THOSE AND  TAKES LESS TIME TO REMOUNT A  UNIT THAN BUILD A GROUND-UP  UNIT.  >> Chairman Kelly: THANK YOU.  I  UNDERSTAND YOU ALL HAVE A  DILIGENT PROCESS AND A PLAN FOR  THE REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING  VEHICLES WITHIN YOUR FLEET.  ONE  OF THE THINGS THAT WE\'VE TALKED  ABOUT A LOT OVER THE LAST FEW  WEEKS THE IS THE INCREASE IN  CALL VOLUME AND INCREASING  DEMAND FOR MED-ACT, KNOWING THAT  THERE\'S NOW SUCH A LEAD TIME AND  UNDERSTANDING THAT THE GROWTH OF  JOHNSON COUNTY HAS NOT SLOWED.   HELP ME UNDERSTAND -- IT\'S  PROBABLY CORRELATED TO THIS --  WHAT THE VISION IS FOR  INCREASING THE CAPACITY WITHIN  THE FLEET TO BE ABLE TO MEET  THAT RISING NEED.  >> CERTAINLY I SPOKE ABOUT THE  CEO OF OUR VENDOR LATE YESTERDAY  JUST TO GET AN IDEA WHERE THEY  ARE AT.  CERTAINLY SOME OF THE  CHANGES IN THE WORLD TRADE, THEY  ARE CONCERNED WITH PRICING GOING  FORWARD, BUT AS OF YESTERDAY,  THEY ARE ALREADY BOOKED OUT TO  2029.  SO GOING INTO OUR NEXT  BUDGET CYCLE, NOT THIS YEAR, BUT  THE FOLLOWING YEAR, WE WILL BE  REQUESTING ORDERS AT LEAST  THROUGH 2029 IF NOT 2030.   ORIGINALLY BACK IN 2020 WHEN  ZERO KID HI2020 COVIDHIT, PRIORD  ORDER AN AMBULANCE AND HAVE IT  HERE WITHIN 120 DAYS.  NOW WE  ARE AT A FOUR-YEAR MARK TO GET  AN AMBULANCE.  AS THE CALL  VOLUME CONTINUES TO INCREASE, WE  SEE THE MILEAGE INCREASE, AND  THERE\'S A CORRELATION TO THE  MORE CALLS YOU ARE RUNNING THE  MORE YOU ARE DRIVING, AND WE  HAVE SEEN THE AGE OF OUR FLEET  INCREASE, AND THE AVERAGE MILES  DRIVEN PER YEAR INCREASE AS  WELL.  AS WE GET SOME OF THESE  NEW UNITS, WHAT WE DO WITH FLEET  IS WE ALWAYS EVALUATE OUR  RESERVE CAPACITY.  WE KEEP  CURRENTLY JUST UNDER ABOUT 10  RESERVE UNITS AVAILABLE IN THE  COUNTY TO REPLACE OUR FRONTLINE  UNITS IF THEY NEED MAINTENANCE  AND BREAK DOWN AND THINGS LIKE  THAT.  ADDITIONALLY, WHEN WE  HAVE THESE UNITS, BECAUSE WE  HAVE THE OPTION TO REMOUNT THEM  DO NOT THE ROAD, REALLY THE  VALUE OF THAT AMBULANCE IS THE  PATIENT MODULE.  BEING ABLE TO  MAINTAIN EVEN WHAT WE KIND OF  CALL A DEEP RESERVE OF THOSE  UNITS.  SO HISTORICALLY WE HAD  SOLD THOSE OFF OR AUCTIONED  THOSE OFF AND NOW WE ARE  ADDITIONALLY KEEPING A COUPLE  EXTRA UNITS STORED IN WHAT WE  WOULD CALL DEEP RESERVE STATUS  IN CASE WE NEEDED TO PULL THEM  OUT, PUT A NEW MOTOR IN IT AND  GET IT OPERATIONAL.  A CREDIT TO  OUR FLEET DEPARTMENT THAT WORKS  DILIGENTLY TO KEEP THESE UNITS  PRART OPERATING BUT MOVING  FORWARD AFTER WE GET THIS ORDER  OF UNITS IN, WE WILL GO FROM AT  LEAST 10 UNITS, MAYBE 11,  POSSIBLY 12, AND JUST BALANCING  THE COST AND ANY INVESTMENT IN  MAINTAINING RESERVE BUT ALSO  AVAILABILITY TO RUN ADDITIONAL  CALLS.  >> Chairman Kelly: THANK YOU  VERY MUCH FOR THE DILIGENT  ANSWER.  PLEASE KNOW I\'M VERY  SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ITEM, BUT IF  WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A FOUR-YEAR  LEAD TIME ON SOME OF THESE  VEHICLES, I THINK OUR NEXT YEAR  IN THAT CYCLE THAT WE REALLY  NEED TO BE PRUDENT ABOUT HOW WE  PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE, BECAUSE  2030 JOHNSON COUNTY IS GOING TO  LOOK A HECK OF A LOT DIFFERENT  THAN 2025 JOHNSON COUNTY, AND WE  NEED TO BE READY FOR THAT.  I  LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU  ON THAT PROCESS.  >> AGREE.  >> Chairman Kelly: COMMISSIONER  MEYERS.  >> Commissioner Meyers: THANK  YOU, CHAIR.  FIRST OF ALL, I  WANT TO COMMEND OUR DEPARTMENT  OF EMERGENCY SERVICES AND OUR  LEADERSHIP.  YOUR FORESIGHT AND  JUST AS THE CHAIR JUST  MENTIONED, THAT\'S GOING TO HAVE  TO CONTINUE.  IT WASN\'T ALONG  AGO, THIS IS WHERE I SAID THAT  CHANGE OF DOING BUSINESS, THIS  IS A CHANGE OF DOING BUSINESS,  WHERE I CAN REMEMBER NOT LONG  AGO TAKING ORDERS ON AN  AMBULANCE 6 TO 12 MONTHS, AND  NOW WE ARE IN THE 24 TO 48  MONTHS, AND CHAIRMAN, YOU JUST  MENTIONED EVEN AS LONG AS 4  YEARS IN ADVANCE, SO THAT IS A  HUGE CHANGE AND A CHALLENGE OF  TAKING ON TO MAKE SURE THAT WE  ARE GETTING OUR BEST PRICES AND  OUR FLEET IS WHERE IT NEEDS TO  BE.  SO THE SUPPLY CHAIN IS  HAVING A MAJOR AFFECT ON A  COUNTY AS A WHOLE, NOT JUST IN  YOUR DEPARTMENT BUT DEPARTMENTS  ACROSS THE COUNTY.  BUT I THANK  YOU FOR YOUR LOOKING AHEAD AND  SEEING WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND  WORKING TO MAKE US HERE AT THE  COUNTY AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE  NOT ONLY WITH MAKING SURE WITH  THOSE ORDERS BUT ALSO WITH DOING  THE BEST JOB WE POSSIBLY CAN GET  ON PRICING.  >> Chairman Kelly: THANK YOU.   COMMISSIONER BREWER.  >> Commissioner Brewer: ONE,  FIRST I WANT TO TAKE A CHANGE TO  RECOGNIZE THE SERVICE THAT YOU  ARE DOING CERTAINLY WITH THE  RECENT STABBING DEATH OF A  FIREFIGHTER, PARAMEDIC IN KANSAS  CITY, IT REMINDS US EVERY DAY  THE COMMITMENT AND THE RISK THAT  EVERYONE IN OUR SAFETY  PROTECTION INDUSTRY FACES.  I  WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO  ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND THANK YOU  FOR YOUR SERVICE.  WHEN YOU WERE  DISCUSSING THE LEAD TIME, IS IT  THE SAME FOR NEW BUILT AS IT IS  FOR RECONDITIONED?  AND IF IT\'S  NOT, DOES THAT MAKE US TRY TO  THINK ABOUT, AS YOU SAID, SAVING  THE PARTS THAT ARE REALLY SOME  OF THEM MORE EXPENSIVE PARTS AND  BE ABLE TO DO MORE WITH THE  REMOUNTS?  DOES THAT FACTOR INTO  WHEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE SUCH A  LONG LEAD TIME NOW TO DO THAT  PREDICTION OF HOW MUCH YOU\'RE  GOING TO NEED.  >> YES.  FIRST, THANK YOU FOR  THOSE COMMENTS.  WE CERTAINLY  GIVE OUR CONDOLENCES AND DEEPEST  SYMPATHY FOR THAT FAMILY.  IT  WAS A VERY TRAGIC EVENT AND HITS  VERY CLOSE TO HOME.  ON THE  QUESTION OF REMOUNTING IT AND  PLANNING THOSE OUT, AGAIN, WHAT  HAPPENED COMING OUT OF COVID WAS  MANY OF THE AMBULANCE  MANUFACTURERS FACTORIES SHUT  DOWN.  WE UNDERSTAND THE  MICROCHIP SHORTAGE THAT OCCURRED  WITH THE VEHICLE MANUFACTURERS  THEMSELVES FROM FORD TO CHEVY,  ET CETERA.  WHEN WE CAME OUT OF  THAT, THERE WAS A YEAR BEHIND  THAT NO ONE COULD GET THE ORDERS  PLACED.  THERE WAS A CHIP  SHORTAGE THAT PROLONGED FOR  ABOUT ANOTHER YEAR.  EVERYBODY  STARTED TO LOOK AHEAD AND BOOK  THOSE ORDERS AND MANUFACTURERS  WERE HAPPY TO TAKE THEM, BECAUSE  THEY TOO NEEDED THE REVENUE.   WHAT HAPPENED IS BOTH ORDER  BANKS FILLED UP.  THE NEW UNIT  ORDER BANK FILLED UP AND THE  REMOUNT ORDER BANK FILLED UP,  UNDERSTANDING THE EFFICIENCIES  THAT WE CAN GAIN IN REMOUNTS,  THEY ARE JUST AS POPULAR AS NEW  UNITS.  THEY ARE CURRENTLY ABOUT  12 MONTHS APART.  SO WE CAN LOOK  AT IT GETTING ON A REMOUNT LIST,  ORDER LIST, PROBABLY IN THE  36-MONTH RANGE, AND THE NEW LIST  IS JUST A LITTLE BIT BEYOND THAT  UP TO THAT 40 TO 48 MONTH LIST.   BOTH LEAD TIMES FOR THAT.  WHEN  WE KEEP THE DEEP RESERVE UNITS  IN THE COUNTY, IT STAYS AS A  COMPLETE AMBULANCE, SO IF WE  NEEDED TO DO SOME SORT OF  EMERGENCY TYPE OF REPAIR WITH A  NEW MOTOR OR NEW TRANSMISSION,  THAT COULD JUST BE PUT TOGETHER  AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE IN THAT  MOMENT AND OBVIOUSLY THAT LEAD  TIME WOULD BE THE AMOUNT OF TIME  TO ORDER AN ENGINE AND HAVE OUR  FLEET STAFF PUT THAT IN.  >> Commissioner Brewer: THANK  YOU VERY MUCH.  >> Chairman Kelly: COMMISSIONER  ASHCRAFT.  >> Commissioner Ashcraft: THANK  YOU, CHAIR.  CHIEF, I HAVE  INCIDENTAL QUESTIONS.  IF WE  COULD DO A PHONE CALL BEFORE  NEXT WEEK, I WOULD APPRECIATE  IT.  MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU WOULD  LIKE CONSENT, I WOULD NOT  OBJECT.  >> Chairman Kelly: SEE IF ANYONE  ELSE HAS CONCERNS.  WE WILL TRY  IT THERE.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH.   HOW ABOUT ITEM 11, PLEASE.  >> CLERK: IFB #2025-009.  CONSIDER AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT  WITH SUPERIOR BOWEN ASPHALT  COMPANY, LLC FOR APPROXIMATELY  10.87 MILES OF OVERLAYS AT  VARIOUS LOCATIONS IN  UNINCORPORATED JOHNSON COUNTY IN  AN AMOUNT OF $1,965,701.12.  >> Chairman Kelly: RYAN SIMS  HERE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF  PUBLIC WORKS.  WELCOME BACK.  >> GOOD AFTERNOON.  RYAN SIMS  WITH PUBLIC WORKS.  THIS  CONTRACT IS PART OF PUBLIC WORKS  ANNUAL ASPHALT MAINTENANCE  PROGRAM.  WE HAVE ALMOST  11 MILES OF OVERLAYS IN THE  UNINCORPORATED COUNTY.  WE PLACE  A STRONG EMPHASIS ON MAINTAINING  OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.  IF  WE ALLOW OUR EXISTING PAVED  ROADS TO LAG BEHIND, WE FACE  EXPENSES IN FUTURE YEARS.  WE  RECEIVED 3 BIDS.  SUPERIOR BOWEN  WAS THE LOW BID.  AND IF THERE  ARE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME,  I WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM.  >> Chairman Kelly: MR. SIMS,  THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  THOSE OF  US IN MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT  BEFOREHAND WERE VERY FAMILIAR  WITH PCIS AND THE PLANS FOR  RESURFACES ROADS AND THE PLAN  FOR DOING SO.  I ASK A LITTLE  BIT OF INFORMATION.  I  APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR TEAM  ABOUT THE PACER SYSTEM OR PACER  SERVICE EVALUATION RATINGS THAT  WE CONDUCT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS  FROM 1 TO 10, 1 BEING A COMPLETE  FAILURE AND NONE OF OUR ROADS  BEING A COMPLETE FAILURE, OR 10  BEING THE SMOOTHEST SURFACE YOU  COULD EVER IMAGINE, AND THAT  TYPICALLY ROADS THAT ARE RATED 4  TO 5 ARE SELECTED FOR THE  OVERLAY PROGRAM AND SOMETIMES A  6 WHEN IT\'S NEAR AND A PROJECT  OR OTHERWISE MAKES FISCAL SENSE  TO ADD IN.  WE TRY TO KEEP THE  PCI OF 7 OR HIGHER TO ENSURE OUR  RELIABLE ROAD NETWORK AND  MAINTAIN SAFETY AT THE END OF  THE DAY.  THE PIECE I WANT TO  TALK TO IS KIND OF A RIFT OFF  WHAT COMMISSIONER MEYERS SAID  EARLIER.  WHILE WE TRY TO  MAINTAIN THIS 7, GIVEN FINANCIAL  CONSTRAINTS AND THE COST OF  ASPHALT, IT\'S MORE AND MORE  DIFFICULT EACH YEAR TO MAINTAIN  THAT 7.  THIS YEAR WE ARE  LOOKING AT ABOUT 11 MILES; IS  THAT CORRECT.  >> THAT\'S CORRECT.  >> Chairman Kelly: WHAT\'S IT  LIKE COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAVE  DONE IN YEARS PAST.  >> WE TRY TO DO 15 TO 20 MILES,  DEPENDING WHAT THE MAINTENANCE  CYCLE IS.  THEY HAVE GONE DOWN  THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, AND WE DO  PLAN ON INCREASING OUR RAR NEXT  YEAR TO MAKE UP FOR THE  DIFFERENCE THAT WE LACK NEXT  YEAR FOR THE OVERLAY CYCLE.  >> Chairman Kelly: AGAIN, JUST  ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE  HAVE GIVEN THE CONSTRAINTS ON  REVENUE SOURCES BUT ALSO RISING  COSTS FOR JUST THE COMMODITIES  THAT WE UTILIZE IN TRYING TO  MAINTAIN THIS EXCEPTIONAL  QUALITY OF LIFE AND SAFE ROADS.   THANKS FOR THE GOOD WORK THAT  YOU\'RE DOING.  COMMISSIONER  BREWER.  >> Commissioner Brewer: IS IT  ALL RIGHT IF WE BEGIN RIGHT NOW  THE VISUAL THAT\'S UP IS FOR THE  PFLUMM BRIDGE.  IF WE COULD HAVE  THE OVERLAY OFFICIAL UP, THAT  WOULD BE HELPFUL.  >> Chairman Kelly: DID YOU HAVE  A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION?  >> Commissioner Brewer: I HAD  THE OVERLAY UP ON A SMALLER  THING, AND I WAS HAVING A HARD  TIME SEEING SOME OF IT.  I WAS  LOOKING FORWARD TO AGENDA REVIEW  WHERE I COULD SEE IT ON  ALARMINGER SCALE.  IT LOOKS LIKE  THERE\'S ASPHALT OVERLAY IN  CONCENTRATIONS IN MY AREA.  I  WANTED TO SEE IT A LITTLE BIT  BETTER TO UNDERSTAND.  WITH THE  ROADS THAT ARE DOING SOME OF THE  ASPHALT OVERLAYS, ESPECIALLY A  ROAD THAT\'S A LITTLE BIT MORE  LIKE 207th.  IS THAT ONE OF  THE ROADS.  >> 207th FROM METCALF TO  MISSION, IT LOOKS LIKE, YES.  >> Commissioner Brewer: RIGHT  NOW WHAT\'S THE SHOULDER  SITUATION, AND HOW DOES THE  ASPHALT OVERLAY IMPACT SOFT  SHOULDER AREAS FOR THE  DIFFERENTIAL IN HEIGHT BETWEEN  THE ROAD AND IF SOMEBODY WERE TO  GO OFF THE ROAD?  THAT\'S WHY I  WAS TRYING TO GET A BETTER -- MY  ROADS IN MY AREA A LITTLE BIT  BETTER THAN I KNOW ROADS IN  COMMISSIONER ALLENBRAND\'S OR  OTHER AREAS, AND I WAS KIND OF  CURIOUS, BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF  THOSE ARE GRAVEL.  SOME OF THOSE  ARE DITCHES.  SOMETIMES THE  CONCERN IS WHEN WE DO A ROAD  IMPROVEMENT, IT CREATES A  DIFFERENTIAL IN THE HEIGHT.  IF  SOMEBODY WERE TO GO OFF THE  ROAD, SOMETIMES IT COULD BE A  HIGHER LEVEL OF SAFETY CONCERNS   AWESOME.  THANK YOU SO MUCH.  IF  WE CAN MAKE IT SMALL ENOUGH SO  IT FITS ON THE SCREEN.  THAT WAS  MY QUESTION.  HOW IS THAT  ADDRESSED?  I\'M ASSUMING IF YOU  ARE DOING ASPHALT OVERLAY, THIS  MAY BE GOING ON TOP OF SOMETHING  THAT PREVIOUSLY HAS HAD AN  OVERLAY.  IS THAT A FAIR  STATEMENT.  >> THAT IS A FAIR STATEMENT.  A  COUPLE THINGS TO NOTE.  A LOT OF  OUR ROADS IN THAT AREA DO NOT  HAVE SHOULDERS.  BUT A COUPLE  WAYS WE TRY TO ADDRESS THESE  EDGE DROP-OFF ISSUES, WE TRY A  MORE FLATTER SAFETY EDGE OR ROCK  EDGE OFF THAT PA.  WE ALSO START  INCORPORATING MILLING THE ROADS  SO WE ARE NOT ADDING SUCH A  STAIR STEP.  >> Commissioner Brewer: THAT\'S  EXACTLY WHAT I WANT TO HEAR OF.  >> WE REACHED THAT POINT OVER  THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, WHERE  IT\'S CREATED A LARGER DROP-OFF  EFFECT.  >> Commissioner Brewer: IS THAT  PART OF THE DISCERNMENT THAT YOU  MAKE WHEN YOU GO TO DO AN  OVERLAY IF YOU ARE NOTICING THAT  LAYER OR LAYER OVER TIME THAT  YOU NEED A MILL A LITTLE BIT  BEFORE YOU DO THE OVERLAY.  >> CORRECT.  >> Chairman Kelly: COMMISSIONER  MEYERS.  >> Commissioner Meyers: THANK  YOU, CHAIR.  STAYING WITH MY  THEME I HAVE HAD ON A COUPLE OF  ITEMS, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT  HISTORY AND COST OF ASPHALT FROM  THE PAST TO WHAT IT IS TODAY,  WHAT WE ARE SEEING.  >> WE HAVE SEEN ANYWHERE FROM  40, 50, 60 TO 70% INCREASE IN  THE MATERIAL COSTS.  IT\'S  DRASTICALLY IMPACTED OUR AMOUNT  OF MILEAGE WE ARE ABLE TO DO  EACH YEAR FOR THE OVERLAYS.  >> Commissioner Meyers: WHEN I  SAW THIS MILEAGE AT 10.7 OR  ALMOST 11 MILES, I WAS ACTUALLY  A LITTLE BIT AMAZED THE COST  WASN\'T GOING TO BE HIGHER.   AGAIN, WITH YOUR EXPLANATION,  ALSO, THAT IN FUTURE YEARS,  ESPECIALLY EVEN THINKING THIS  NEXT YEAR THAT AMOUNT OF MILEAGE  COULD INCREASE CLOSE TO DOUBLE  OF WHAT WE MIGHT BE DOING THIS  YEAR.  AGAIN, WE JUST HAVE TO BE  MINDFUL OF THOSE KINDS OF  INCREASES AND THAT AMOUNT OF  CHANGE FOR BUDGETING IN THESE  TYPES OF MATERIALS THAT ARE  ESSENTIAL TO MAKE PROGRESS AND  CONTINUE FULFILLING SOME OF THE  NEEDS THAT WE HAVE, ESPECIALLY  WITH STREET IS THAT.  >> Chairman Kelly: THANK YOU.   COMMISSIONER ALLENBRAND.  >> Commissioner Allenbrand: COMM  ISSIONER MEYERS AND CHAIR, I  REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING  THAT UP, BECAUSE THE COST OF  WHAT WE ARE SEEING INCREASING,  YOU KNOW, OF COURSE I\'M LOOKING  AT MY DISTRICT, AND THE GROWTH  OF -- AND THERE\'S NOT ENOUGH  MONEY IN OUR ENTIRE BUDGET.  I  GET MORE CALLS ON 119th AND  THAT BRIDGE THAT\'S IN THE MIDDLE  OF DE SOTO AND OLATHE BY CEDAR.   IT\'S 22 MILLION FOR -- I THINK  IT\'S A MILE STRETCH, WHICH WOULD  COMPLETELY WIPE OUT OUR ENTIRE  BUDGET FOR UNINCORPORATED ROADS   IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO FACE   IT\'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT IN THE  FUTURE AS WE ARE LOOKING TO GET  THESE ROADS DONE.  I HAVE  APPRECIATED WORKING WITH ADAM  NORRIS AND HIS KNOWLEDGE OF  ROADS AND HOW WE CAN WORK IN THE  FUTURE TO MAYBE GET SOME  REIMBURSEMENT BACK FROM SOME OF  THAT DEVELOPMENT TO FIX THAT  MILE ROAD, TO GET IT UP TO THE  SPEED WITH THE CITY.  THANK YOU.  >> Chairman Kelly: COMMISSIONER  ASHCRAFT.  >> Commissioner Ashcraft: MR.  CHAIRMAN, THIS ITEM IS IN GOOD  ORDER.  I WOULD HAVE NO  OBJECTION TO CONSENT.  >> Chairman Kelly: COMMISSIONER  HANZLICK.  >> Commissioner Hanzlick: YES.   I APPRECIATE THAT.  I WOULD LIKE  TO KEEP IT ON ACTION AS WELL AS  NO. 10, JUST BECAUSE OF THE  ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP  IN TERMS OF RECOGNIZING THE  INCREASING COSTS, THE DIFFICULTY  OF OBTAINING NEEDED EQUIPMENT  AND ALSO WITH THE MED-ACT TO LET  FOLKS KNOW THAT WE ARE TAKING  THE GROWING AGING POPULATION  SERIOUSLY IN TRYING TO PREPARE  FOR THAT.  I DON\'T HAVE ANY  PROBLEM WITH EITHER OF THESE  ITEMS.  I JUST WOULD LIKE TO  KEEP THEM ON ACTION SO THAT THEY  CAN BE EMPHASIZED SOME OF THE  CHALLENGES THAT WE\'RE FACING.  >> Chairman Kelly: WE WILL FIND  THEM ON ACTION NEXT WEEK.   COMMISSIONER BREWER, ADDITIONAL  QUESTION?  >> Commissioner Brewer: ONE  MORE.  I WILL PROBABLY TOUCH  BASE WITH YOU BETWEEN THE  MEETINGS, ARE ANY OF THE  OVERLAYS, ARE ANY OF THEM ON  SECTIONS -- I DON\'T THINK THEY  ARE, BUT I WANT TO CONFIRM.  ARE  ANY OF THEM ON SECTIONS FROM  ASPHALT THAT GO TO GRAVEL AS THE  CONDITION OF THE ROAD.  >> THERE MIGHT BE ONE OFF  115th, I BELIEVE, TOWARDS THE  NORTHWEST PART OF THE CORNER OF  THE COUNTY, BUT I WILL HAVE TO  DOUBLE-CHECK.  >> Commissioner Brewer: I JUST  KNOW SOME OF THE FEEDBACK I\'VE  GOTTEN OVER TIME IN MY PORTION  OF THE DISTRICT, ESPECIALLY WHEN  I WAS OUT KNOCKING DOORS, WHEN  THERE\'S THAT TRANSITION, THEY  HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SAFETY.  SO  I WANTED TO CHECK ON THAT.   THANK YOU.  >> Chairman Kelly: AT A FUTURE  TIME, IT MIGHT BE WORTH  REVISITING HOW ALL THE PAVEMENT  IS MAINTAINED ON THESE ROADS,  WHETHER THAT BE CRACK, CEILING  OR CHIPPED SEAL OR ALTERNATIVE  TREATMENTS WE UTILIZE TO TRY TO  MAINTAIN THE CONDITIONS OF THE  ROADS AND NOT HAVE TO GO TO MILL  AND OVERLAY SO OFTEN TO TRY TO  EXTEND THE LONGEVITY OF THEIR  LIFE CYCLE AND SOME OF THE GOOD  WORK THAT\'S GOING ON IN THE  PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, SO  MAYBE AT A STUDY SESSION OR  DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE  CAN HAVE A FRESH REMINDER OF THE  WORK WE ARE DOING, ALTHOUGH WE  ARE ONLY DOING 11 MILES THIS  YEAR, THERE\'S A LOT OF WORK  GOING ON TO MAINTAIN THE SAFE  ROADWAYS WITHIN THE COUNTY.  ALL  RIGHT.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  WE  WILL MOVE ON ITEM 12 NOW.  >> CLERK: CONSIDER APPROVING AN  AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF  OVERLAND PARK FOR THE  REPLACEMENT OF THE PFLUMM ROAD  BRIDGE OVER COFFEE CREEK WITH  COUNTY GENERAL RESERVE, CARS  RESERVE AND FEDERAL FUND  EXCHANGE ACCOUNTS.  >> Chairman Kelly: GEOFF VOHS  HERE WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS  DEPARTMENT.  WELCOME BACK.  >> THANK YOU.  GEOFF VOHS WITH  PUBLIC WORKS.  THIS WILL BE THE  SECOND TIME I HAVE BROUGHT THIS  ITEM TO YOU, BACK IN FEBRUARY.   AS A REMINDER THE CITY OF  OVERLAND PARK AND JOHNSON COUNTY  NEED TO REPLACE THE PFLUMM ROAD  BRIDGE APPROXIMATELY 0.2 MILES  NORTH OF 167th STREET.   CURRENTLY JOHNSON COUNTY HAS 50%  OF THE JURISDICTION OF THE  PROJECT DUE TO HERITAGE PARK,  WHICH IS NOT LIKELY TO BE  ANNEXED.  THE AGREEMENT SHOWS A  SPLIT OF PROJECT EXPENSES TO BE  50/50 ALONG JURISDICTIONAL LINES  WITH OVERLAND PARK ADMINISTERING  THE PROJECT.  THE REASON IT\'S  COMING BACK FOR YOU TODAY IS THE  CITY OF OVERLAND PARK  ANTICIPATED $500,000 IN  CONGRESSLY DIRECTED SPENDING.   UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS REMOVED  FROM THE CONTINUING RESOLUTION  WHEN IT WAS PASSED BY CONGRESS.   THAT\'S WHY $250,000 TO THE  ESTIMATED COST OF OUR PROJECT OR  THE JOHNSON COUNTY PORTION, AND  THAT WILL GO FROM 3.7 MILLION TO  AN ESTIMATED 3.95 MILLION.  WE  ARE JUST REDOING THE AGREEMENT  TO TAKE THE LINE ITEM OUT OF THE  AGREEMENT.  >> Chairman Kelly: MR. VOHS,  THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE  PRESENTATION.  IT IS  DISHEARTENING THAT ALL CDS --  CONFIRM MY UNDERSTANDING.  THIS  IS NOT PROJECT SPECIFIC TO THIS  CDS REQUEST, BUT ALL.  >> MY UNDERSTANDING IT WAS  COMPLETELY WIPED OUT WITH THAT.  >> Chairman Kelly: WITH THE  CONTINUING RESOLUTION THAT ALL  CDS FROM HOUSE MEMBERS WERE  WIPED OUT.  IT\'S NOT PROJECT  SPECIFIC HERE BUT IMPACTS BASED  ON THE ACTIONS OF CONGRESS,  RIGHT.  >> CORRECT.  >> Chairman Kelly: COMMISSIONER  ASHCRAFT.  >> Commissioner Ashcraft: THANK  YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.  WHILE  REGRETTABLE, CONGRESS ACTS IN  MYSTERIOUS WAYS.  THIS ITEM IS  IN GOOD ORDER AND BASICALLY  PROCEDURAL.  I WOULD HAVE NO  OBJECTION TO BEING ON CONSENT.  >> Chairman Kelly: COMMISSIONER  MEYERS.  >> Commissioner Meyers: THANK  YOU, CHAIR.  I WILL MENTION,  THIS GOES TO THE FACT OF THE  UNANTICIPATED COSTS THAT CAN  CHANGE THAT AGAIN WE AS BOARD OF  COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO  REACT TO FROM TIME TO TIME AND  THEY ARE NOT SMALL DOLLARS.  SO  YOU HAVE TO BE PREPARED.  I\'M  GLAD THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE  ABLE TO SOMEHOW BE ABLE TO  CONTINUE WITH THIS MOST  IMPORTANT PROJECT, BUT AGAIN,  UNANTICIPATED COST, THAT  HAPPENS.  >> Chairman Kelly: COMMISSIONER  BREWER.  >> Commissioner Brewer: CHAIR, I  WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THIS ON  ACTION.  I THINK IT\'S GOING TO  BE IMPORTANT TO UNDERSCORE.  >> Chairman Kelly: FUN LITTLE  JOKE THAT WE HAVE.  >> Commissioner Brewer: I  APOLOGIZE.  I FEEL LIKE IT\'S  IMPORTANT TO UNDERSCORE THIS  PARTICULAR DYNAMIC.  I AM GOING  TO ASK A BROADER FUTURE  QUESTION.  ARE WE IN THE PROCESS  OF MAYBE TAKING A LOOK AT ANY  OTHER UPCOMING PROJECTS IN WHICH  THIS PARTICULAR ACTION AT THE  FEDERAL LEVEL COULD HAVE A  TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT IN OTHER  PROJECTS THAT MIGHT BE ON THE  DOCKET.  >> CORRECT.  WE HAVE A PRIORITY  LIST THAT WE HAVE OF OUR  PROJECTS, AND THIS ONE WILL FIT  IN THERE, AND IF WE NEED TO  ADJUST WHEN WE CONSTRUCT THE  PROJECTS, WE WILL.  >> Commissioner Brewer: MY  QUESTION IS, DO WE KNOW OF OTHER  PROJECTS WHERE WE ANTICIPATE THE  FEDERAL DECISION HAVING A FISCAL  IMPACT ON A DIFFERENT DISTINCT  UPCOMING PROJECT.  >> NO, THIS IS THE ONLY ONE.  >> Chairman Kelly: AN ASTERISK  TO THAT, OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC  WORKS DEPARTMENT, THERE WAS THE  ANTIOCH PARK IMPROVEMENTS THAT  WERE INCLUDED WITHIN  CONGRESSIONAL DIRECTED SPENDING,  THE FUNDING FOR WHICH WAS  REMOVED IN THE SAME WAY THE  FUNDING WAS REMOVED, EVEN THOUGH  THIS WAS AN OVERLAND PARK  SPECIFIC CDS REQUEST, OUR CDS  REQUEST FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR  OVERLAND PARK WAS REMOVED.  I  SEE MR. DAPP KNOTTING IN THE  BACKGROUND.  THAT\'S ALL THE  ITEMS WE HAD ON AGENDA REVIEW  FOR TODAY.  WE STAND ADJOURNED  TO ALLOW PEOPLE A LUNCH BREAK  AND TIME TO CLEAR THEIR MINDS,  WE WILL BE BACK AT 1:20 FOR THE  COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE RIGHT  HERE IN THIS ROOM.  THANK YOU  ALL VERY MUCH.  WE WILL BE IN  RECESS.'}]