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(Conakry) – The fifth anniversary on September 28, 2014, of the Conakry stadium massacre should be the last before justice is done, seven Guinean and international organizations, in unity with the victims, said today. More than 150 people were killed, some 100 women were raped and several hundred people were injured on September 28, 2009, as government troops attacked peaceful demonstrators.
Since legal proceedings began in February 2010, close to 400 victims have been interviewed by the judges leading the case. But only eight people have been charged, though offenses were committed by scores of members of the armed forces, particularly the Red Berets. The military junta in power at the time of the massacre was headed by Moussa Dadis Camara.
There has been real progress in justice in recent months, the groups said. The establishment of a High Judicial Council in July, the ongoing improvement in the status of judges and the start of justice reform are all likely to help the judges complete their work.
There has been some progress in the legal case in recent weeks, including questioning of the director of Conakry stadium, the former Minister for Youth and Sport and, through an international rogatory commission, Dadis Camara, who has taken refuge in Burkina Faso. These new developments are in contrast to the slow pace that long characterized the proceedings.
Administering justice for the victims is all the more urgent because scores of victims have died in the past five years from their injuries or disease without being vindicated, the groups said.
Despite the government’s stated commitments, a lack of financial and political support has been a major obstacle to the progress of the investigation. The government needs to guarantee that all of the people summoned for questioning, including members of the security forces, regardless of their rank, answer the summonses issued by the judges. On several occasions, despite repeated summonses, the judges have not been able to interview people summoned for questioning about the events of September 28, 2009.
The International Criminal Court (ICC), which opened a preliminary examination on October 14, 2009, and which is continuing to monitor this case closely, has already alerted the national authorities to the need to conduct these proceedings within a reasonable time frame.

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( Conakry ) – The fifth anniversary on September 28 , 2014 , of the Conakry stadium massacre should be the last before justice is done , seven Guinean and international organizations , in unity with the victims , said today . More than 150 people were killed , some 100 women were raped and several hundred people were injured on September 28 , 2009 , as government troops attacked peaceful demonstrators .
 Since legal proceedings began in February 2010 , close to 400 victims have been interviewed by the judges leading the case . But only eight people have been charged , though offenses were committed by scores of members of the armed forces , particularly the Red Berets . The military junta in power at the time of the massacre was headed by Moussa Dadis Camara .
 There has been real progress in justice in recent months , the groups said . The establishment of a High Judicial Council in July , the ongoing improvement in the status of judges and the start of justice reform are all likely to help the judges complete their work .
 There has been some progress in the legal case in recent weeks , including questioning of the director of Conakry stadium , the former Minister for Youth and Sport and , through an international rogatory commission , Dadis Camara , who has taken refuge in Burkina Faso . These new developments are in contrast to the slow pace that long characterized the proceedings .
 Administering justice for the victims is all the more urgent because scores of victims have died in the past five years from their injuries or disease without being vindicated , the groups said .
 Despite the government ’s stated commitments , a lack of financial and political support has been a major obstacle to the progress of the investigation . The government needs to guarantee that all of the people summoned for questioning , including members of the security forces , regardless of their rank , answer the summonses issued by the judges . On several occasions , despite repeated summonses , the judges have not been able to interview people summoned for questioning about the events of September 28 , 2009 .
 The International Criminal Court ( ICC ) , which opened a preliminary examination on October 14 , 2009 , and which is continuing to monitor this case closely , has already alerted the national authorities to the need to conduct these proceedings within a reasonable time frame .


text: A.B., Dartmouth College; M.A., New York University. Writer and lecturer on filmmaking and film history. Taught at Queens College, Cooper Union, Princeton University, and Collective for Living Cinema. Associate editor, Downtown Review (1978–81). Articles on film, video, and poetry. Coeditor, Ten Years of Living Cinema (1982). At Bard since 1981.

tokenized: A.B. , Dartmouth College ; M.A. , New York University . Writer and lecturer on filmmaking and film history . Taught at Queens College , Cooper Union , Princeton University , and Collective for Living Cinema . Associate editor , Downtown Review ( 1978–81 ) . Articles on film , video , and poetry . Coeditor , Ten Years of Living Cinema ( 1982 ) . At Bard since 1981 .


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 The City operates the programs and services needed to meet the needs of those who live , work and play in Oshawa .
 Within these pages you will find information on Council meetings , agendas and minutes , employment opportunities , strategic planning and more .
 Under the guidance and leadership of City Council , the City Manager and City Departments provide administrative and operational services for the community .
 Oshawa Strategic Plan - Our Focus , Our Future , 2015 - 2019 .
 The Oshawa Strategic Plan , endorsed by Council in October 2015 , serves as the City 's highest - level policy document and guides the work of the City , our decisions and the development of our community .
 The new plan contains a community vision , corporate mission and five strategic goals .
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At a study session on Tuesday, Planning Director Scot Siegel and Senior Planner Debra Andreades outlined the proposed changes, which were developed by the Planning Commission following direction from the council at the start of the year.
ADUs, which are also known as Secondary Dwelling Units or SDUs, are separate dwelling units created on existing single-family lots. They are already allowed in Lake Oswego, Siegel explained, and can be standalone structures, additions to the main house or divisions within it, but they are limited to 800 square feet in any configuration.
ADUs are seen as a cost-effective way to integrate more economical housing options into existing neighborhoods, but they are currently treated by the City as Minor Developments. That means they require a lengthy review process and are subject to System Development Charges, decreasing their viability as an affordable housing option.
The Planning Commission recommended replacing one of the code's current subjective standards for ADUs relating to privacy between neighbors with an objective standard, which would allow new ADUs to undergo a faster Ministerial Review instead of the Minor Development process.
"That means it takes 30 or maybe 60 days off the process," Andreades said.
The current code requires an additional off-street parking space for a new ADU, but it can't be created by expanding the driveway into a yard setback area. The commission recommended a change that would give homeowners more flexibility by allowing them to count part of an existing paved driveway as a parking space.
A final regulatory change pertained to the "owner-occupancy" requirement in the current code, which states that the ADU builder must occupy the main existing residence on the property. The commission recommended changing it to a "principal residence" requirement to account for the fact that homeowners may take extended vacations.
The Planning Commission also recommended waiving System Development Charges for ADU projects in which the units will be reserved for households earning less than 80 percent of the median Clackamas County urban income, at rent levels of no more than 30 percent of the median income. The restrictions would apply for the first 10 years after an ADU is built.
Most of the councilors appeared to be generally supportive of the proposed changes Tuesday night, but they raised concerns about a couple of specific issues. Councilor Theresa Kohlhoff noted that the council is currently planning to reconsider whether to allow Short-Term Rentals in Lake Oswego and said she hoped that the code changes wouldn't be structured in a way that encourages ADU development specifically for use as STRs.
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"I think it's very important to have some parameters in the code that we're not creating density in single-family neighborhoods," he said, "because someone always tries to outsmart us."
Mayor Kent Studebaker conducted a series of informal polls of the council to provide direction to staff on each of the proposed changes. A majority of the councilors supported the 10-year SDC rule, as well as the proposed parking and ADU size requirements and the change to a ministerial development process.
However, the council voted against the "primary residence" requirement, opting instead to eliminate the owner-occupancy rule altogether. The Planning Commission had recommended the rule on the assumption that it would encourage property upkeep, but most of the councilors said they didn't think it would make a major difference.
Staff will return with a finalized list of code changes for consideration at a public hearing during a future council meeting.
n The council received an update on the planned redevelopment of the municipal golf course, which would add a new home for the Parks & Recreation Department on the site. Parks & Rec Director Ivan Anderholm reported that a recent independent assessment of the proposed building yielded a much higher cost estimate than what was originally calculated. City staff are still working through the new cost report to come up with a set of options for the council to consider at a future meeting.
n Acting as the LORA board, the council reviewed a series of alternative options for how to proceed with the development of a new City Hall and police station in light of last month's news that the original design was $20 million over budget. A more detailed list of options is expected to be presented at the council's June 12 meeting, with the expectation that the council will settle on one plan and direct staff to move forward.

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The Lake Oswego City Council appears ready to move forward on a package of code changes that would streamline the development process for Accessory Dwelling Units .
 At a study session on Tuesday , Planning Director Scot Siegel and Senior Planner Debra Andreades outlined the proposed changes , which were developed by the Planning Commission following direction from the council at the start of the year .
 ADUs , which are also known as Secondary Dwelling Units or SDUs , are separate dwelling units created on existing single - family lots . They are already allowed in Lake Oswego , Siegel explained , and can be standalone structures , additions to the main house or divisions within it , but they are limited to 800 square feet in any configuration .
 ADUs are seen as a cost - effective way to integrate more economical housing options into existing neighborhoods , but they are currently treated by the City as Minor Developments . That means they require a lengthy review process and are subject to System Development Charges , decreasing their viability as an affordable housing option .
 The Planning Commission recommended replacing one of the code 's current subjective standards for ADUs relating to privacy between neighbors with an objective standard , which would allow new ADUs to undergo a faster Ministerial Review instead of the Minor Development process .
 " That means it takes 30 or maybe 60 days off the process , " Andreades said .
 The current code requires an additional off - street parking space for a new ADU , but it ca n't be created by expanding the driveway into a yard setback area . The commission recommended a change that would give homeowners more flexibility by allowing them to count part of an existing paved driveway as a parking space .
 A final regulatory change pertained to the " owner - occupancy " requirement in the current code , which states that the ADU builder must occupy the main existing residence on the property . The commission recommended changing it to a " principal residence " requirement to account for the fact that homeowners may take extended vacations .
 The Planning Commission also recommended waiving System Development Charges for ADU projects in which the units will be reserved for households earning less than 80 percent of the median Clackamas County urban income , at rent levels of no more than 30 percent of the median income . The restrictions would apply for the first 10 years after an ADU is built .
 Most of the councilors appeared to be generally supportive of the proposed changes Tuesday night , but they raised concerns about a couple of specific issues . Councilor Theresa Kohlhoff noted that the council is currently planning to reconsider whether to allow Short - Term Rentals in Lake Oswego and said she hoped that the code changes would n't be structured in a way that encourages ADU development specifically for use as STRs .
 Councilor Skip O'Neill also questioned whether the rules for ADUs within existing homes would create an opportunity for homeowners to create what would essentially be duplex houses , which are not permitted in single - family residential zones .
 " I think it 's very important to have some parameters in the code that we 're not creating density in single - family neighborhoods , " he said , " because someone always tries to outsmart us . "
 Mayor Kent Studebaker conducted a series of informal polls of the council to provide direction to staff on each of the proposed changes . A majority of the councilors supported the 10 - year SDC rule , as well as the proposed parking and ADU size requirements and the change to a ministerial development process .
 However , the council voted against the " primary residence " requirement , opting instead to eliminate the owner - occupancy rule altogether . The Planning Commission had recommended the rule on the assumption that it would encourage property upkeep , but most of the councilors said they did n't think it would make a major difference .
 Staff will return with a finalized list of code changes for consideration at a public hearing during a future council meeting .
 n The council received an update on the planned redevelopment of the municipal golf course , which would add a new home for the Parks & Recreation Department on the site . Parks & Rec Director Ivan Anderholm reported that a recent independent assessment of the proposed building yielded a much higher cost estimate than what was originally calculated . City staff are still working through the new cost report to come up with a set of options for the council to consider at a future meeting .
 n Acting as the LORA board , the council reviewed a series of alternative options for how to proceed with the development of a new City Hall and police station in light of last month 's news that the original design was $ 20 million over budget . A more detailed list of options is expected to be presented at the council 's June 12 meeting , with the expectation that the council will settle on one plan and direct staff to move forward .


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Now that the alliance is made, I want to thank all of you guys who didn't hesitate to join our forums. I can feel 10th of march is a day that I will remember, because after learning from others' mistakes and careful planning, our alliance was made.
The main thing why we all need this kind of alliance is because it would bring us the best feel of community in a game where people started to forget it.
The person I would like to thank the most is EsTygo, the leader of Revolution. Seriously, if I hadn't joined Revolution for a short period, I wouldn't have met such a good leader. His point of view was so pure, that I wanted nothing else but my main guild (Serenity) to join Unity, the alliance Revolution was in back then. He inspired me so much, that I started to understand the true values of Dofus. After Unity's fall, we've been working hard towards the development of alliance and I can easily say that my guild would just belong to a mediocre alliance that might have a lot of prisms, scammers and mad kids right now if Esty didn't change my point of view that much. I started not to care about those things majority of Dofus players overly care about. There might be more people like Esty and I wish all the people like him joined our alliance. You just can't ignore his devotion. He works a lot for us to feel comfortable in the alliance and to also have the best allies in Rushu, not necessarily PvP-wise.
And I thank all of you who are reading this message and agree on things I wanted to mention.
Also I'd like to thank my awesome guild Serenity for letting a simple level 158 member work for the guild's success and believing in me.
Nice post, but I think you're forgetting one more important person! I would say a lot of people owe some thanks to you as well Omelette! A big thanks to all the people involved in the creation of Convergence.
Thanks for the attention, Omelette. You are no less to thank in all of this, and surely the single person who spent time in preparing and negotiating with leaders the most and got them excited about the idea of this new alliance. Thanks to you for helping to create what i believe will be the most joyful and warm alliance of Rushu!
While i hope nobody is annoyed by the highlighting of eachother in this thread, and i'm sure we deserve a little gratitude, i'd like to take the opportunity here to say something about the ideas behind the alliance.
I'll tell you a story about how i got myself into this point and all these thoughts about the alliance.
I started out my first char, a chance osa, EsTygo in 2005, but i won't talk about everything that's happened since. In my years on Dofus ive experienced alot of guilds and alot of different leadership. Already in my early days i experienced some bad leadership in several guilds and its conequences. In my first guild, while the leader was on vacation he appointed a temporary leader. The new leader was a clueless emotional teenager, and after 2 days she kicked out everyone from the guild cause she felt like it. The guild ended with a bang.
A month later i ran into some friendly guys and got invited to their freshly started guild. It was called The Empire and was the first guild i was really happy in, and a guild in fact all of its members liked. We enjoyed eachothers company on /g and soon became a group of friends. It appeared that somehow we had something special there that was hard to explain in words. Maybe it was just the connection, eventho we were all different, different ages, genders, cultural background etc. Or perhaps it was several things that fell into place that created the right setting. The leader was a nice guy, but also rather passive as leader. Then one day some members left the guild, then a few more left cause of those others who left. Then the guild became more inactive and more people left in a downward spiral. It was very sad to see, and while i didn't want to tell others what to do, someone had to step up since the leader was doing nothing. I wanted to save what was left of the guild, and started negotiations. As a result, some days later we succesfully merged The Empire into Shinra. However i was left feeling a bit disappointed that nobody else was there to try to keep the group of ppl together, when the group we had grown attached to started shattering apart. Because of this i decided to put my main char in a different guild than Shinra, where i left my alt.
My swedish friend Youbutsu had just recreated a guild that died in 2005, called The Gobball Hunters. This guild was very different in feeling from The Empire, and that connection between the people was not the same, still we had alot of good times. A while later Youbutsu decided to make me his officer (SiC) and help lead the guild. The guild was a success and soon became a big and famous guild. Several months passed, and one day Youbutsu came to me and told me that he is feeling uneasy about the guild. He felt that in the process of developing and growing the guild something important got lost. He said he was missing that feeling we had before in the guild, from the early days. He didn't want to be the leader of a big powerful guild anymore but started dreaming of a small guild with just good friends who know eachother. I told him i know exactly what he means and i can understand, but that he should at least continue with the old guild cause it had a high level, and just change it a bit and create that feeling that both of us appreciated by only accepting people who talk and want to get to know eachother. He had made up his mind however, and the new guild which was not going to grow but just be a small guild of close friends was created by the name Blank. Not what you would have expected, huh? As you would imagine, it took maybe a month and we were the same as before, and most of the old GH people were now in Blank while it was expanding rapidly. Youb was great with the social side, but then again he was not the best leader in all of the qualities that make a good leader. At one point we had a SiC who was paranoid and always thought ppl were against him or picking a fight with him, and he was kicking ppl left and right. One of the many experiences i collected along the way from failed leadership.
Many things happened, and a few years later we decided to restart Revolution that Luciferz had closed down a year earlier when he was quitting. It was not difficult to find people who had some good memories of the guild or who were excited to be part of the old guild once more. I didn't want to be a SiC again, cause i enjoyed playing the game a bit differently from most and spent alot of time doing research, writing notes and planning strategies and i thought i wouldn't have the time. But then one day the leader (Ekoh) really needed help running the guild and wanted me as SiC and so i gave in.
It was already around the time when Revolution was reborn in 2008 that i was talking about the importance of a good leadership with the leader, and had some cool ideas on how to develop the guild. I called it the guild 2.0 project (since there was much hype about a future Dofus 2.0). I wrote down alot of ideas on how to offer alot of different positions to the members of the guild so that everyone could be part of building the guild together and share the responsibility, not just the leaders. I hoped it would also increase participation, interaction between people and strengthen the feeling for members that it was their own guild, and not just an exclusive club owned by the leaders. These plans were never fully implemented eventho i got some positive feedback for them.
As you might expect, time went by until one day came the day when the leader decided to quit Dofus. The guild was falling apart and it was unsure if there was any future for the guild left. The first leader and creator of Revolution, Luciferz still logged occasionally, and i talked with him in hope that he would lead the guild again. He told me he couldn't, and the only person he felt he could trust the leadership with was me or the guild was finished. I appreciated his trust alot, and so i became a guild leader myself for the first time. The past of Revolution has seen many occasions when the guild had been dead or nearly dead, also during some of my own breaks from the game. But that's a different story. Last summer the guild was doing good again and with the help of SiCs we were building the kind of guild we wanted Revo to be. Alliances happened, and suddenly i was not just planning Revolution but discussing with a bunch of leaders what to do with our alliance in the Link council. I was one of the most active council members, and i think many council members would remember me not just for writing lengthy texts but for always trying to push the alliance forward and trying to solve the problems the alliance was running into, and which were causing the alliance leadership to choke up so to speak. Unfortunately the system of decision making was failing hard, and many lost interest to really do anythign about it while some others were trying to convince eachother that they should be the leaders alone to set things right in the alliance. I put alot of time and effort and thought into the organization of the alliance then, and would not have written the plans we have now if i hadn't gone through alot of different difficult situations related to the alliance.
So today in what i intend, and have tried to bring out in our new alliance has traces of everything from the past, and a mix of it all. The best experiences i've had in this game, the best guilds, friendships and allies, the many failures i have seen in bad leadership or poor organization, the many difficult social situations created in a community, the attitudes, values and connections that strengthen us, many problems that required some solution, and many thoughts and ideas on how to really bring out the best of the community and aim at something better, and building it all up and beyond those best communities i have seen and experienced.
I wanted to tell this story as a path to the thoughts that i have been talking about for a long time and were used in creating this alliance. My point here is also not that i want to hear that im smart, but that the thoughts that have so far been put into planning this alliance did not happen overnight and i do think we have a good chance to turn the many thoughts and ideas into a great alliance. Theres no certainty of it at this point however, even if the start has been better than i would have hoped for. Much will depend on the intensity at which members and leaders can and will participate into creating this for eachother. While i am hoping that many things go roughly according to plan, what i really hope for most of all is that we can all work together on a goal that we can share with eachother and enjoy eachothers company while doing it.
Thanks for reading the story, and i hope it was inspiring in some way to to you, and gave you some idea why i am doing all of this and also some idea why other guild leaders see the same things as i do that have made this alliance possible.

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Now that the alliance is made , I want to thank all of you guys who did n't hesitate to join our forums . I can feel 10th of march is a day that I will remember , because after learning from others ' mistakes and careful planning , our alliance was made .
 The main thing why we all need this kind of alliance is because it would bring us the best feel of community in a game where people started to forget it .
 The person I would like to thank the most is EsTygo , the leader of Revolution . Seriously , if I had n't joined Revolution for a short period , I would n't have met such a good leader . His point of view was so pure , that I wanted nothing else but my main guild ( Serenity ) to join Unity , the alliance Revolution was in back then . He inspired me so much , that I started to understand the true values of Dofus . After Unity 's fall , we 've been working hard towards the development of alliance and I can easily say that my guild would just belong to a mediocre alliance that might have a lot of prisms , scammers and mad kids right now if Esty did n't change my point of view that much . I started not to care about those things majority of Dofus players overly care about . There might be more people like Esty and I wish all the people like him joined our alliance . You just ca n't ignore his devotion . He works a lot for us to feel comfortable in the alliance and to also have the best allies in Rushu , not necessarily PvP - wise .
 And I thank all of you who are reading this message and agree on things I wanted to mention .
 Also I 'd like to thank my awesome guild Serenity for letting a simple level 158 member work for the guild 's success and believing in me .
 Nice post , but I think you 're forgetting one more important person ! I would say a lot of people owe some thanks to you as well Omelette ! A big thanks to all the people involved in the creation of Convergence .
 Thanks for the attention , Omelette . You are no less to thank in all of this , and surely the single person who spent time in preparing and negotiating with leaders the most and got them excited about the idea of this new alliance . Thanks to you for helping to create what i believe will be the most joyful and warm alliance of Rushu !
 While i hope nobody is annoyed by the highlighting of eachother in this thread , and i 'm sure we deserve a little gratitude , i 'd like to take the opportunity here to say something about the ideas behind the alliance .
 I 'll tell you a story about how i got myself into this point and all these thoughts about the alliance .
 I started out my first char , a chance osa , EsTygo in 2005 , but i wo n't talk about everything that 's happened since . In my years on Dofus i ve experienced alot of guilds and alot of different leadership . Already in my early days i experienced some bad leadership in several guilds and its conequences . In my first guild , while the leader was on vacation he appointed a temporary leader . The new leader was a clueless emotional teenager , and after 2 days she kicked out everyone from the guild cause she felt like it . The guild ended with a bang .
 A month later i ran into some friendly guys and got invited to their freshly started guild . It was called The Empire and was the first guild i was really happy in , and a guild in fact all of its members liked . We enjoyed eachothers company on /g and soon became a group of friends . It appeared that somehow we had something special there that was hard to explain in words . Maybe it was just the connection , eventho we were all different , different ages , genders , cultural background etc . Or perhaps it was several things that fell into place that created the right setting . The leader was a nice guy , but also rather passive as leader . Then one day some members left the guild , then a few more left cause of those others who left . Then the guild became more inactive and more people left in a downward spiral . It was very sad to see , and while i did n't want to tell others what to do , someone had to step up since the leader was doing nothing . I wanted to save what was left of the guild , and started negotiations . As a result , some days later we succesfully merged The Empire into Shinra . However i was left feeling a bit disappointed that nobody else was there to try to keep the group of ppl together , when the group we had grown attached to started shattering apart . Because of this i decided to put my main char in a different guild than Shinra , where i left my alt .
 My swedish friend Youbutsu had just recreated a guild that died in 2005 , called The Gobball Hunters . This guild was very different in feeling from The Empire , and that connection between the people was not the same , still we had alot of good times . A while later Youbutsu decided to make me his officer ( SiC ) and help lead the guild . The guild was a success and soon became a big and famous guild . Several months passed , and one day Youbutsu came to me and told me that he is feeling uneasy about the guild . He felt that in the process of developing and growing the guild something important got lost . He said he was missing that feeling we had before in the guild , from the early days . He did n't want to be the leader of a big powerful guild anymore but started dreaming of a small guild with just good friends who know eachother . I told him i know exactly what he means and i can understand , but that he should at least continue with the old guild cause it had a high level , and just change it a bit and create that feeling that both of us appreciated by only accepting people who talk and want to get to know eachother . He had made up his mind however , and the new guild which was not going to grow but just be a small guild of close friends was created by the name Blank . Not what you would have expected , huh ? As you would imagine , it took maybe a month and we were the same as before , and most of the old GH people were now in Blank while it was expanding rapidly . Youb was great with the social side , but then again he was not the best leader in all of the qualities that make a good leader . At one point we had a SiC who was paranoid and always thought ppl were against him or picking a fight with him , and he was kicking ppl left and right . One of the many experiences i collected along the way from failed leadership .
 Many things happened , and a few years later we decided to restart Revolution that Luciferz had closed down a year earlier when he was quitting . It was not difficult to find people who had some good memories of the guild or who were excited to be part of the old guild once more . I did n't want to be a SiC again , cause i enjoyed playing the game a bit differently from most and spent alot of time doing research , writing notes and planning strategies and i thought i would n't have the time . But then one day the leader ( Ekoh ) really needed help running the guild and wanted me as SiC and so i gave in .
 It was already around the time when Revolution was reborn in 2008 that i was talking about the importance of a good leadership with the leader , and had some cool ideas on how to develop the guild . I called it the guild 2.0 project ( since there was much hype about a future Dofus 2.0 ) . I wrote down alot of ideas on how to offer alot of different positions to the members of the guild so that everyone could be part of building the guild together and share the responsibility , not just the leaders . I hoped it would also increase participation , interaction between people and strengthen the feeling for members that it was their own guild , and not just an exclusive club owned by the leaders . These plans were never fully implemented eventho i got some positive feedback for them .
 As you might expect , time went by until one day came the day when the leader decided to quit Dofus . The guild was falling apart and it was unsure if there was any future for the guild left . The first leader and creator of Revolution , Luciferz still logged occasionally , and i talked with him in hope that he would lead the guild again . He told me he could n't , and the only person he felt he could trust the leadership with was me or the guild was finished . I appreciated his trust alot , and so i became a guild leader myself for the first time . The past of Revolution has seen many occasions when the guild had been dead or nearly dead , also during some of my own breaks from the game . But that 's a different story . Last summer the guild was doing good again and with the help of SiCs we were building the kind of guild we wanted Revo to be . Alliances happened , and suddenly i was not just planning Revolution but discussing with a bunch of leaders what to do with our alliance in the Link council . I was one of the most active council members , and i think many council members would remember me not just for writing lengthy texts but for always trying to push the alliance forward and trying to solve the problems the alliance was running into , and which were causing the alliance leadership to choke up so to speak . Unfortunately the system of decision making was failing hard , and many lost interest to really do anythign about it while some others were trying to convince eachother that they should be the leaders alone to set things right in the alliance . I put alot of time and effort and thought into the organization of the alliance then , and would not have written the plans we have now if i had n't gone through alot of different difficult situations related to the alliance .
 So today in what i intend , and have tried to bring out in our new alliance has traces of everything from the past , and a mix of it all . The best experiences i 've had in this game , the best guilds , friendships and allies , the many failures i have seen in bad leadership or poor organization , the many difficult social situations created in a community , the attitudes , values and connections that strengthen us , many problems that required some solution , and many thoughts and ideas on how to really bring out the best of the community and aim at something better , and building it all up and beyond those best communities i have seen and experienced .
 I wanted to tell this story as a path to the thoughts that i have been talking about for a long time and were used in creating this alliance . My point here is also not that i want to hear that i m smart , but that the thoughts that have so far been put into planning this alliance did not happen overnight and i do think we have a good chance to turn the many thoughts and ideas into a great alliance . There s no certainty of it at this point however , even if the start has been better than i would have hoped for . Much will depend on the intensity at which members and leaders can and will participate into creating this for eachother . While i am hoping that many things go roughly according to plan , what i really hope for most of all is that we can all work together on a goal that we can share with eachother and enjoy eachothers company while doing it .
 Thanks for reading the story , and i hope it was inspiring in some way to to you , and gave you some idea why i am doing all of this and also some idea why other guild leaders see the same things as i do that have made this alliance possible .


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I made this album from scratch to give Hanson during my meet and greet in 2007. I had pages from some of the meet and greeters and some of my newsclippings from when MMMBop was released back in 1997. The theme of the album was “ten” as it was 10 years since MMMBop and Middle of Nowhere was released.
went down the queue outside the venue and had fans sign it.
A 12×6 album I made about the 2007 concert. These are just a few of the pages. I used left over supplies from the album I made the guys.
Again, using left over supplies from the album I made for the guys, I made this double layout for one of my regular scrapbooks about the Meet and Greet. The left page shows the picture of us and the guys, and the right page features my M&G pass, miniature version of the album I made for Hanson using scans I made of it (minus the fans signatures in the back), and I mounted the flier of the UK tour on hinges which I put a pocket containing my ticket and M&G e-mail and my account of the whole experience behind it.
Made using the free digital kit download, I went to my local scrapbook store with a print of the patterned paper to compare it to the cardstock being sold so I could buy the closest colours to the kit. I used my craft robo to cut the Hanson logo 2010 for the cover (thank you Hansonish.com!) I also used my Hanson journalling blocks, American crafts thickers (on “Zac” and “Meiko”) and Making Memories letter stickers (on “Taylor”) to add the finishing touches to the pages 🙂 The whole book is stitch bound with wax thread.

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I made this album from scratch to give Hanson during my meet and greet in 2007 . I had pages from some of the meet and greeters and some of my newsclippings from when MMMBop was released back in 1997 . The theme of the album was “ ten ” as it was 10 years since MMMBop and Middle of Nowhere was released .
 went down the queue outside the venue and had fans sign it .
 A 12×6 album I made about the 2007 concert . These are just a few of the pages . I used left over supplies from the album I made the guys .
 Again , using left over supplies from the album I made for the guys , I made this double layout for one of my regular scrapbooks about the Meet and Greet . The left page shows the picture of us and the guys , and the right page features my M&G pass , miniature version of the album I made for Hanson using scans I made of it ( minus the fans signatures in the back ) , and I mounted the flier of the UK tour on hinges which I put a pocket containing my ticket and M&G e - mail and my account of the whole experience behind it .
 Made using the free digital kit download , I went to my local scrapbook store with a print of the patterned paper to compare it to the cardstock being sold so I could buy the closest colours to the kit . I used my craft robo to cut the Hanson logo 2010 for the cover ( thank you Hansonish.com ! ) I also used my Hanson journalling blocks , American crafts thickers ( on “ Zac ” and “ Meiko ” ) and Making Memories letter stickers ( on “ Taylor ” ) to add the finishing touches to the pages 🙂 The whole book is stitch bound with wax thread .


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"Run Tests" will take you to the test running interface.
"Reports" will show you all the data that has been pushed to the raw data table.
"Analytics" will have options to view different analytical displays on the aggregated data.
"FAQ" will have some terminology definitions, and tips on how to use the interface.

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" Run Tests " will take you to the test running interface .
 " Reports " will show you all the data that has been pushed to the raw data table .
 " Analytics " will have options to view different analytical displays on the aggregated data .
 " FAQ " will have some terminology definitions , and tips on how to use the interface .


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The Dogfish Inn located in Lewes, Delaware embraces modern style and convenience while celebrating a bygone era of family vacations, big cars and endless summers. The inn features 16 rooms filled with thoughtful, beer-centric amenities and design elements. Each room includes a wool Dogfish blanket created in collaboration with the iconic American apparel maker Woolrich. You’ll also find a Tivoli radio and screenprints of beer labels from our music collaborations.
Each room at the Dogfish Inn is equipped with a mini-fridge stocked with locally made snacks, and there’s barware to enjoy the beers you bring back from our brewery and brewpub. Plus, retro American-made beach chairs and Apolis tote bags are ready for trips to the local beaches. At night, you can gather on the patio around the Cowboy Cauldron and count shooting stars with your friends and family. Then the next morning, enjoy complimentary Dogfish Chicory Coffee, roasted by our neighbors at Notting Hill. Come and discover the beauty of coastal Delaware while staying at the Dogfish Inn.

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The Dogfish Inn located in Lewes , Delaware embraces modern style and convenience while celebrating a bygone era of family vacations , big cars and endless summers . The inn features 16 rooms filled with thoughtful , beer - centric amenities and design elements . Each room includes a wool Dogfish blanket created in collaboration with the iconic American apparel maker Woolrich . You ’ll also find a Tivoli radio and screenprints of beer labels from our music collaborations .
 Each room at the Dogfish Inn is equipped with a mini - fridge stocked with locally made snacks , and there ’s barware to enjoy the beers you bring back from our brewery and brewpub . Plus , retro American - made beach chairs and Apolis tote bags are ready for trips to the local beaches . At night , you can gather on the patio around the Cowboy Cauldron and count shooting stars with your friends and family . Then the next morning , enjoy complimentary Dogfish Chicory Coffee , roasted by our neighbors at Notting Hill . Come and discover the beauty of coastal Delaware while staying at the Dogfish Inn .


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A small business client held freehold commercial property in his own name. His business occupied one of the factories and the others were tenanted by third parties. In July 2008 when the changes in the SIS Act were released we recognised him as a taxpayer that would benefit from the SIS Act changes. As soon as products were released from the banks we set the client up in an Instalment Warrant Arrangement.
Their existing SMSF did not have the funds for the full deposit required by the bank. We borrowed the maximum LVR from the financial institution and the balance of the property was treated as an in-specie contribution into the fund.
Allowed the client to payout the loan within the SMSF in 27 months.
Repaying the loan via the SMSF means the capital components are tax deductible, as concessional superannuation contributions into the fund.
The rental income received by the SMSF is tax free as they are over 55 years old and meet their pension requirements.
Rental income paid by the individual taxpayer provides a tax deduction at their marginal rate, while at the same time the rental income received becomes tax free within the superfund.
This restructure has produced terrific long term results that both our clients and our firm are extremely satisfied with. It has enabled our clients to successfully build their superannuation balance, even though there have been strict restrictions on the amount of concessional superannuation contributions they can make. It also has the advantage of protecting their property as it is held by the superfund, ensuring that they will receive tax free rental income both now and in their retirement.
A client in the building industry was placed in a situation whereby claims for additional costs were denied by the principal contractor. The principal contractor became insolvent leaving our client with a serious cash flow problem. To exacerbate the problem the bank subsequently commenced foreclosure proceedings on our client.
Spending time onsite, preparing cash flow projections, analysis, and budgets we were able to identify the internal control issues and assist our client in implementing tighter internal controls and procedures. In addition, we applied to other financial institutions in order to refinance their debt. All creditors were subsequently contacted and payment arrangements were put in place.
Continuous communication with the banks and creditors involved, coupled with the implementation of tighter internal controls and procedures has enabled our client to regain their position as one of the most successful companies trading within their industry on the central coast.
Player Hall was an integral component to this company's success and we are proud to continue to assist them in growing their business. To this day Player Hall continues to visit onsite in order to monitor the internal control procedures are still effective, and ensure the ratios are in line with the industry benchmarks.

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A small business client held freehold commercial property in his own name . His business occupied one of the factories and the others were tenanted by third parties . In July 2008 when the changes in the SIS Act were released we recognised him as a taxpayer that would benefit from the SIS Act changes . As soon as products were released from the banks we set the client up in an Instalment Warrant Arrangement .
 Their existing SMSF did not have the funds for the full deposit required by the bank . We borrowed the maximum LVR from the financial institution and the balance of the property was treated as an in - specie contribution into the fund .
 Allowed the client to payout the loan within the SMSF in 27 months .
 Repaying the loan via the SMSF means the capital components are tax deductible , as concessional superannuation contributions into the fund .
 The rental income received by the SMSF is tax free as they are over 55 years old and meet their pension requirements .
 Rental income paid by the individual taxpayer provides a tax deduction at their marginal rate , while at the same time the rental income received becomes tax free within the superfund .
 This restructure has produced terrific long term results that both our clients and our firm are extremely satisfied with . It has enabled our clients to successfully build their superannuation balance , even though there have been strict restrictions on the amount of concessional superannuation contributions they can make . It also has the advantage of protecting their property as it is held by the superfund , ensuring that they will receive tax free rental income both now and in their retirement .
 A client in the building industry was placed in a situation whereby claims for additional costs were denied by the principal contractor . The principal contractor became insolvent leaving our client with a serious cash flow problem . To exacerbate the problem the bank subsequently commenced foreclosure proceedings on our client .
 Spending time onsite , preparing cash flow projections , analysis , and budgets we were able to identify the internal control issues and assist our client in implementing tighter internal controls and procedures . In addition , we applied to other financial institutions in order to refinance their debt . All creditors were subsequently contacted and payment arrangements were put in place .
 Continuous communication with the banks and creditors involved , coupled with the implementation of tighter internal controls and procedures has enabled our client to regain their position as one of the most successful companies trading within their industry on the central coast .
 Player Hall was an integral component to this company 's success and we are proud to continue to assist them in growing their business . To this day Player Hall continues to visit onsite in order to monitor the internal control procedures are still effective , and ensure the ratios are in line with the industry benchmarks .


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Anonymuz-The Fall Of Earth. This song will be played when we joining ours or any other server so people can now they about to get Absolutely Murdered!
We are fighters for the free world and fighting against the getting low community of BF3!
We do not forget, We do not forgive. Expect us! We Are Legion!
A King must remind Fools why he wears that Crown!
We are super serious and will be doing clan battles when we have a team set up!
1upjosh was kicked from platoon Doomsday Knocker's.

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Anonymuz - The Fall Of Earth . This song will be played when we joining ours or any other server so people can now they about to get Absolutely Murdered !
 We are fighters for the free world and fighting against the getting low community of BF3 !
 We do not forget , We do not forgive . Expect us ! We Are Legion !
 A King must remind Fools why he wears that Crown !
 We are super serious and will be doing clan battles when we have a team set up !
 1upjosh was kicked from platoon Doomsday Knocker 's .


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Given the debate over the meaning of the wavefunction, an examination of the original motivations of the Schrodinger equation is of plausible relevance — and arguably of reasonable significance. This short essay notes that two key components of Schrodinger’s 1926 papers rely crucially on epistemic concepts from classical physics. (In other words, classical physics concepts that are ill-defined from an omniscient viewpoint, but are only useful/meaningful from the perspective of an agent with limited information.) This would seem to bolster the “\psi-epistemic” view of treating the wavefunction as a state of knowledge instead of a description of reality.
Schrodinger’s original presentation of his time-dependent equation bestows a crucially important role to Hamilton’s Principal Function, W (as do many other subsequent arguments that start with the Hamilton-Jacobi equation). But even though W is often simply called “the action”, it is *not* the (ontological) action, but instead a summary of many possible but flatly-incompatible classical histories. W might be useful as a state of knowledge, but it would be very strange to build an ontology out of it.
One of the strange aspects of W has been discussed at length, here and elsewhere: the fact that W lives in configuration space rather than spacetime, at least for more than one particle. But it is generally not been noted that an ontic-W would much stranger than the mere space that it resides in. Even for single-particles it is essentially an epistemic tool, and this is clearly the case in the classical domain in which W originated. This certainly doesn’t prove that the wavefunction must be epistemic as well, but it adds to the many excellent arguments in that regard (Spekkens, Fuchs, etc.). It also cautions one against drawing on the classical Hamilton-Jacobi equation for addressing foundational questions at the deepest level.
Obviously, this paper is quite short; had I had more time to work on it I might have pointed out one more curious feature about W: Even though a classical W quickly devolves into epistemic uncertainty as time progresses, it can easily be made to start out ontically, by choosing a reference point in spacetime where a particle has been measured to actually exist. Here, then, is an example of a classical structure that naturally evolves from being “ontic” at preparation to being “epistemic” at measurement. (It is at measurement where the best arguments for the psi-epistemic viewpoint reside.) As a final note; the PBR theorem examines the status of the wavefunction at *preparation*, and determines it is ontic. And yet few people have examined models in which the wavefunction makes an ontic-to-epistemic transition (where the probability overlap between states grows with time). Hamilton’s Principal Function is then a proof-of-principle that such cases deserve consideration, especially considering that W was the original motivation for \psi.
I’m trying to understand your new point about the ontic to epistemic transition.
In the classical case, is W ontic because measuring a particle at xsub0, tsub0 uniquely specifies W at all x,t (making it look like a physical field)?
If so, how does it become epistemic? Is that because the initial velocity was not specified/measured, so at a later time tsub1, no xsub1 is singled out to give a unique time, position pair to take the place of xsub0, tsub0 in specifying the new W(x,t)?
Thanks for the question… and yes, that’s essentially correct.
At a big-picture level, looking at the whole history of W(x,t) vs. some particular classical particle trajectory, I would say that W is epistemic in the only ways that really matter: many different W’s are compatible with the same actual classical trajectory (depending on the reference point), just about any ontic trajectory is compatible with the same W, and upon learning more details about the actual trajectory, one can update W.
But then, at future times, before a second measurement is made, the possible locations explode; you can’t determine W by looking at the actual particle position (at that later time only), and you certainly can’t determine the actual particle position from W. And if you did gain new information, you might choose to update your W to a new reference point.
As you can tell, I don’t think slicing up the history into instants and using the standard epistemic/ontic definition is particularly useful. In fact, in might even be misleading, in that it has steered people away from the important point that “ontic” at preparation may still be essentially epistemic in all the ways that really matter — at least when it comes to \psi.
I don’t understand this comment. PBR employs prepare-and-measure experiments, but the lambda could refer to the ontic state of the system at any point between the preparation and measurement. I do not see why it is necessarily at preparation.
But on your main argument, it seems to me that W(x,t) is encoding information about the laws of physics, i.e. about what the trajectory would have been if the initial conditions were different. I think this makes it nomological in the sense of Valia’s talk, rather than epistemic. I would normally think of the laws of physics as ontological in the sense appropriate for things like the PBR theorem.
More generally, I am not sure if making a historical argument is the best tack to take in defending psi-epistemicism. Schroedinger was obviously conflicted on the issue for some time, given that he also tried to get a pure wave formulation of quantum theory without the Born rule to work for some time. If the many-worlders had made the argument that psi has to be real because early quantum theorists like Schroedinger intended it to be real then it would certianly be worth pointing out that this is not necessarily true. However, I think the argument they actually make is: the structure of quantum theory as it now exists should be our guide for determining what is real. Since that structure includes the wavefunction, the most straightforward explanation for the success of quantum theory is to posit that the wavefunction is real and go from there. Although I don’t think this is a great argument, it seems to be independent from the historical developmemnt of the theory.
This is an intriguing paper. It proposes some interesting novel ideas.
I have two general concerns. One is that the similarity between two math equations seems not to ensure these two equations have the same physical interpretation, as in the case of Nelson’s stochastic mechanics. The other is that Schrodinger’s original derivation of his equation is only a heuristic derivation. So, it seems debatable to draw fundamental physical implications from the derivation.
On the status of W(x,t), I don’t really see a meaningful distinction between those two options; the important aspects of “epistemic” that I’m interested in are outlined in my response to Richard above. (I agree that W is a summary of many possibilities, but even so, one would never treat the phase-fronts of W as a real wave…?) Maybe it would seem more “epistemic” by your lights if you considered realistic non-classical trajectories, as outlined on the top of page 2. In that case, W would only summarize our best guess of the trajectory, assuming we didn’t know how the actual trajectory would deviate from classical physics.
Thanks for your kind words; and I certainly agree with both of your points.
I happen to think that having two wildly different interpretations of the mathematics of configuration space in particular (stat mech vs Everettian QM) is quite unlikely, but sure, it’s certainly possible. I’m one of those few realists who think we can force multiparticle QM back into ordinary spacetime (via retrocausality, see ref. ), so I happen to like the stat-mech-style account. I actually quite like classical fields, so I’m not *as* opposed to entities like W(x,t) as it might appear, but I would like there to be more focus on *relativistic* classical fields, not the W-like fields that obey Hamilton-Jacobi-style equations.
As for the fact that the motivation was only heuristic, I agree that that makes my point even weaker, but I hope the point remains that Schrodinger was still appropriating *concepts* from the non-ontic sector of classical physics.
I’m also one of those (few?) realists who think we can force multiparticle QM back into ordinary spacetime (via random discontinuous motion of particles, in my case).

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 Given the debate over the meaning of the wavefunction , an examination of the original motivations of the Schrodinger equation is of plausible relevance — and arguably of reasonable significance . This short essay notes that two key components of Schrodinger ’s 1926 papers rely crucially on epistemic concepts from classical physics . ( In other words , classical physics concepts that are ill - defined from an omniscient viewpoint , but are only useful / meaningful from the perspective of an agent with limited information . ) This would seem to bolster the “ \psi - epistemic ” view of treating the wavefunction as a state of knowledge instead of a description of reality .
 Schrodinger ’s original presentation of his time - dependent equation bestows a crucially important role to Hamilton ’s Principal Function , W ( as do many other subsequent arguments that start with the Hamilton - Jacobi equation ) . But even though W is often simply called “ the action ” , it is * not * the ( ontological ) action , but instead a summary of many possible but flatly - incompatible classical histories . W might be useful as a state of knowledge , but it would be very strange to build an ontology out of it .
 One of the strange aspects of W has been discussed at length , here and elsewhere : the fact that W lives in configuration space rather than spacetime , at least for more than one particle . But it is generally not been noted that an ontic - W would much stranger than the mere space that it resides in . Even for single - particles it is essentially an epistemic tool , and this is clearly the case in the classical domain in which W originated . This certainly does n’t prove that the wavefunction must be epistemic as well , but it adds to the many excellent arguments in that regard ( Spekkens , Fuchs , etc . ) . It also cautions one against drawing on the classical Hamilton - Jacobi equation for addressing foundational questions at the deepest level .
 Obviously , this paper is quite short ; had I had more time to work on it I might have pointed out one more curious feature about W : Even though a classical W quickly devolves into epistemic uncertainty as time progresses , it can easily be made to start out ontically , by choosing a reference point in spacetime where a particle has been measured to actually exist . Here , then , is an example of a classical structure that naturally evolves from being “ ontic ” at preparation to being “ epistemic ” at measurement . ( It is at measurement where the best arguments for the psi - epistemic viewpoint reside . ) As a final note ; the PBR theorem examines the status of the wavefunction at * preparation * , and determines it is ontic . And yet few people have examined models in which the wavefunction makes an ontic - to - epistemic transition ( where the probability overlap between states grows with time ) . Hamilton ’s Principal Function is then a proof - of - principle that such cases deserve consideration , especially considering that W was the original motivation for \psi .
 I ’m trying to understand your new point about the ontic to epistemic transition .
 In the classical case , is W ontic because measuring a particle at xsub0 , tsub0 uniquely specifies W at all x , t ( making it look like a physical field ) ?
 If so , how does it become epistemic ? Is that because the initial velocity was not specified / measured , so at a later time tsub1 , no xsub1 is singled out to give a unique time , position pair to take the place of xsub0 , tsub0 in specifying the new W(x , t ) ?
 Thanks for the question … and yes , that ’s essentially correct .
 At a big - picture level , looking at the whole history of W(x , t ) vs. some particular classical particle trajectory , I would say that W is epistemic in the only ways that really matter : many different W ’s are compatible with the same actual classical trajectory ( depending on the reference point ) , just about any ontic trajectory is compatible with the same W , and upon learning more details about the actual trajectory , one can update W.
 But then , at future times , before a second measurement is made , the possible locations explode ; you ca n’t determine W by looking at the actual particle position ( at that later time only ) , and you certainly ca n’t determine the actual particle position from W. And if you did gain new information , you might choose to update your W to a new reference point .
 As you can tell , I do n’t think slicing up the history into instants and using the standard epistemic / ontic definition is particularly useful . In fact , in might even be misleading , in that it has steered people away from the important point that “ ontic ” at preparation may still be essentially epistemic in all the ways that really matter — at least when it comes to \psi .
 I do n’t understand this comment . PBR employs prepare - and - measure experiments , but the lambda could refer to the ontic state of the system at any point between the preparation and measurement . I do not see why it is necessarily at preparation .
 But on your main argument , it seems to me that W(x , t ) is encoding information about the laws of physics , i.e. about what the trajectory would have been if the initial conditions were different . I think this makes it nomological in the sense of Valia ’s talk , rather than epistemic . I would normally think of the laws of physics as ontological in the sense appropriate for things like the PBR theorem .
 More generally , I am not sure if making a historical argument is the best tack to take in defending psi - epistemicism . Schroedinger was obviously conflicted on the issue for some time , given that he also tried to get a pure wave formulation of quantum theory without the Born rule to work for some time . If the many - worlders had made the argument that psi has to be real because early quantum theorists like Schroedinger intended it to be real then it would certianly be worth pointing out that this is not necessarily true . However , I think the argument they actually make is : the structure of quantum theory as it now exists should be our guide for determining what is real . Since that structure includes the wavefunction , the most straightforward explanation for the success of quantum theory is to posit that the wavefunction is real and go from there . Although I do n’t think this is a great argument , it seems to be independent from the historical developmemnt of the theory .
 This is an intriguing paper . It proposes some interesting novel ideas .
 I have two general concerns . One is that the similarity between two math equations seems not to ensure these two equations have the same physical interpretation , as in the case of Nelson ’s stochastic mechanics . The other is that Schrodinger ’s original derivation of his equation is only a heuristic derivation . So , it seems debatable to draw fundamental physical implications from the derivation .
 On the status of W(x , t ) , I do n’t really see a meaningful distinction between those two options ; the important aspects of “ epistemic ” that I ’m interested in are outlined in my response to Richard above . ( I agree that W is a summary of many possibilities , but even so , one would never treat the phase - fronts of W as a real wave … ? ) Maybe it would seem more “ epistemic ” by your lights if you considered realistic non - classical trajectories , as outlined on the top of page 2 . In that case , W would only summarize our best guess of the trajectory , assuming we did n’t know how the actual trajectory would deviate from classical physics .
 Thanks for your kind words ; and I certainly agree with both of your points .
 I happen to think that having two wildly different interpretations of the mathematics of configuration space in particular ( stat mech vs Everettian QM ) is quite unlikely , but sure , it ’s certainly possible . I ’m one of those few realists who think we can force multiparticle QM back into ordinary spacetime ( via retrocausality , see ref . ) , so I happen to like the stat - mech - style account . I actually quite like classical fields , so I ’m not * as * opposed to entities like W(x , t ) as it might appear , but I would like there to be more focus on * relativistic * classical fields , not the W - like fields that obey Hamilton - Jacobi - style equations .
 As for the fact that the motivation was only heuristic , I agree that that makes my point even weaker , but I hope the point remains that Schrodinger was still appropriating * concepts * from the non - ontic sector of classical physics .
 I ’m also one of those ( few ? ) realists who think we can force multiparticle QM back into ordinary spacetime ( via random discontinuous motion of particles , in my case ) .


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What made you a music director ? As a Bengali with an MBBS degree , did you never feel the pressure to pursue a medical career ?
 There is always pressure on you while taking risks . Opposition from family and society is natural . I guess that � � � s how the society reacts . But some of us are just not made to follow the societal norms . My immense love for music coupled with my adamant nature didn � � � t let me settle for anything apart from music . For me , music is like medicine .
 Despite hailing from Kolkata , you never thought of composing for Bengali films .
 Of course I do . I � � � d love to work with Srijit Mukherji and Kaushik Ganguly .
 How much are you clued in to Bengali film music ?
 I left Kolkata around eight years back and Bengali film music has come a long way since then . I love Anupamda � � � s ( Roy ) songwriting and compositions . He is brilliant . The song Ek baar bol tor keu nei is one of my favourites .
 Heard you used to fight with your mother as a kid because you were forced to learn Rabindrasangeet ?
 Oh yes ! Protidin ma er sanghe jhogra hotoh gaan sekha niye ! But now Rabindrasangeet is my fave . There are times when I just sit quietly and listen to the songs . During my college days , I used to love rock . Fossils was at its peak then . I grew up listening to Kabir Suman , Anjan Dutt and so on .
 Do you catch up with your old friends whenever you come down to Kolkata ?
 I do meet my school friends when I come here . Right now , Kolkata seems to be brimming with joy as Durga Puja is just weeks away . But sadly , I � � � m going to miss it this time as I would be out of the country for work . What I will miss the most are pandal - hopping and eating out in the wee hours .
 Are you in touch with other Bengali music directors based in Mumbai ?
 Of course . I have known Pritamda very well since I was nominated for my debut in Jism2 and for my second film , Yaariyan . I was lucky to score the soundtrack along with him , Mithoon and YoYo Honey Singh . We won the best music award for it too . Pritamda is very warm and often invites us over to his house . Jeetda ( Gannguli ) is like family to me . His wife is my mom � � � s student and they are the sweetest people on earth . We often hang out in a group for adda where we don � � � t talk work . I don � � � t know Shantanu Moitra personally , but whenever we meet he is extremely encouraging and supportive .
 How is the competition in Mumbai music industry ?
 Quite tough , but fair at the same time . What matters there is your song � � � s merit and nothing else .
 Most of your songs , which are also penned by you , are hits . Does that create a pressure on you when you compose your next song ?
 There are certain expectations when you work with big stars and banners . But I take it more as a compliment than a burden .
 Well the list is endless -- my childhood , daily experiences , the people around , my lovers , travelling and imagination .
 While promoting Rustom in Kolkata , Akshay Kumar crooned Tere sang yaara , which is composed by you . How does it feel ?
 Feels great . He told me that after a long time he has a favourite song . Akshay sir has always been very kind to me . This is the third song I made for him after Meherbaani from The Shaukeens and the title track for a TV show hosted by him called Dare 2 Dance .
 Who are your favourite male and female singers ?
 Among male artistes , it � � � s Chris Cornell , Eddie Vedder , Bruce Springsteen , Ustad Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan , Hemant Mukherjee and Mohammed Rafi to name a few . Among female singers , Lauryn Hill , Adele , Alanis Morissette , Abida Parveen and Shreya Ghoshal are my favourites .
 Which music director do you like the most ?
 My all - time favourite music director is Hemanta Mukherjee . I am also very fond of Vishal Bhardwaj .
 One singer you wish to lend voice to your music ?
 My dream is to have Ustad Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan or Jagjit Singh lend their voice to music composed by me some day .
 Which is your favourite composition till date ?
 Dariya , from an upcoming film starring Katrina Kaif and Sidharth Malhotra . The song conveys the simplest and purest emotion and that � � � s how music should be .
 Akshay Kumar , Sidharth Malhotra , Irrfan , Randeep Hooda all have lip - synced on your tracks . Any actor you would want to playback for ?
 I would like to playback for Ranbir Kapoor . He is one of my favourite actors .