text: b ) The network reports included material from tapes that could only be the tapes that Starr 's people had made ( because these tapes allegedly have Lewinsky saying that Jordan and the president told her to lie--which was not on the tapes Newsweek heard , and Newsweek had supposedly heard the most incriminating tapes ) .
  
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  Newsweek never heard any of the tapes with Lewinsky .