text: data1={"phrases": [{"id": "droogl4", "body": "We have fan sections and they have chants, calls, drum lines, etc. They were just screaming in unison."}, {"id": "drook35", "body": "That's pretty dope. You guys have an awesome atmosphere."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7lrr9y", "body": "##General Information\n\n**TIME**     |**MEDIA**                            |**LOCATION**        |**MISC**\n:------------|:------------------------------------|:-------------------|:-------------------------\n07:00 PM Eastern |**Game Preview**: [NBA.com](http://www.nba.com/games/20171223/BKNIND#/preview) | Bankers Life Fieldhouse               | \n06:00 PM Central |**Game Matchup**: [NBA.com](http://www.nba.com/games/20171223/BKNIND#/matchup) | **Team Subreddits**|\n05:00 PM Mountain|**Play By Play**: [NBA.com](http://www.nba.com/games/20171223/BKNIND#/pbp)| /r/gonets          |\n04:00 PM Pacific |**Box Score**: [NBA.com](http://www.nba.com/games/20171223/BKNIND#/boxscore) | /r/pacers          |\n\n-----\n\n[Reddit Stream](https://reddit-stream.com/comments/auto) (You must click this link from the comment page.)\n        "}, {"id": "drooh2y", "body": "Dinwiddie &gt; D'Angelo. Don't @ me."}, {"id": "drooh2y", "body": "Dinwiddie &gt; D'Angelo. Don't @ me."}, {"id": "droojgs", "body": "@JevvyMedia\n\nnah"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7lrr9y", "body": "##General Information\n\n**TIME**     |**MEDIA**                            |**LOCATION**        |**MISC**\n:------------|:------------------------------------|:-------------------|:-------------------------\n07:00 PM Eastern |**Game Preview**: [NBA.com](http://www.nba.com/games/20171223/BKNIND#/preview) | Bankers Life Fieldhouse               | \n06:00 PM Central |**Game Matchup**: [NBA.com](http://www.nba.com/games/20171223/BKNIND#/matchup) | **Team Subreddits**|\n05:00 PM Mountain|**Play By Play**: [NBA.com](http://www.nba.com/games/20171223/BKNIND#/pbp)| /r/gonets          |\n04:00 PM Pacific |**Box Score**: [NBA.com](http://www.nba.com/games/20171223/BKNIND#/boxscore) | /r/pacers          |\n\n-----\n\n[Reddit Stream](https://reddit-stream.com/comments/auto) (You must click this link from the comment page.)\n        "}, {"id": "droonil", "body": "Damnit Crabbe."}, {"id": "droonil", "body": "Damnit Crabbe."}, {"id": "drooq5y", "body": "Not Crabbes fault at all"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7lrr9y", "body": "##General Information\n\n**TIME**     |**MEDIA**                            |**LOCATION**        |**MISC**\n:------------|:------------------------------------|:-------------------|:-------------------------\n07:00 PM Eastern |**Game Preview**: [NBA.com](http://www.nba.com/games/20171223/BKNIND#/preview) | Bankers Life Fieldhouse               | \n06:00 PM Central |**Game Matchup**: [NBA.com](http://www.nba.com/games/20171223/BKNIND#/matchup) | **Team Subreddits**|\n05:00 PM Mountain|**Play By Play**: [NBA.com](http://www.nba.com/games/20171223/BKNIND#/pbp)| /r/gonets          |\n04:00 PM Pacific |**Box Score**: [NBA.com](http://www.nba.com/games/20171223/BKNIND#/boxscore) | /r/pacers          |\n\n-----\n\n[Reddit Stream](https://reddit-stream.com/comments/auto) (You must click this link from the comment page.)\n        "}, {"id": "drooy2j", "body": "Oladipo got some superstar call down the stretch. Sigh.\n\nGood effort by the Nets but lost the game in the 3rd Q."}, {"id": "drooy2j", "body": "Oladipo got some superstar call down the stretch. Sigh.\n\nGood effort by the Nets but lost the game in the 3rd Q."}, {"id": "dropda1", "body": "Yeah like that three foul where dipo didn\u2019t touch him.  Yes superstar call."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7nbr3o", "body": "4 and 5 seed in Western conference. both have similiar talent, who would win?"}, {"id": "ds0lbit", "body": "im going to knock out the next person who asks this question again in way less than 7 rounds "}, {"id": "ds0lbit", "body": "im going to knock out the next person who asks this question again in way less than 7 rounds "}, {"id": "ds0m131", "body": "Aren't you the guy that said mirotic is garbage? Go home "}, {"id": "ds0m131", "body": "Aren't you the guy that said mirotic is garbage? Go home "}, {"id": "ds0m48s", "body": "no i said portis is better because i love arkansas. and you keep bringing this up or linking me to your comments about it. Maybe leave home?\n\nPortis is still a oood player. Are you a bulls fan?"}, {"id": "ds0m48s", "body": "no i said portis is better because i love arkansas. and you keep bringing this up or linking me to your comments about it. Maybe leave home?\n\nPortis is still a oood player. Are you a bulls fan?"}, {"id": "ds0m9ov", "body": "Next time don't make retarded claims if you're a casual fan. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7nbr3o", "body": "4 and 5 seed in Western conference. both have similiar talent, who would win?"}, {"id": "ds0ldih", "body": "I would go with the Wolves. Just think KAT has an absolute monster of a series against them."}, {"id": "ds0ldih", "body": "I would go with the Wolves. Just think KAT has an absolute monster of a series against them."}, {"id": "ds0llpm", "body": "They're at a disadvantage.\n\nNo defense, and little playoff experience. \n"}, {"id": "ds0llpm", "body": "They're at a disadvantage.\n\nNo defense, and little playoff experience. \n"}, {"id": "ds0ls8a", "body": "lol I will save this for the series. You are underestimating how good that young talent is."}, {"id": "ds0ls8a", "body": "lol I will save this for the series. You are underestimating how good that young talent is."}, {"id": "ds0lzyj", "body": "Those two factors I listed go a long way. \n\nDefense really really matters in the playoffs.\n\nThat roster is very talented but they need a year or two. \n\nBut go ahead and save it. \n"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7nbr3o", "body": "4 and 5 seed in Western conference. both have similiar talent, who would win?"}, {"id": "ds0lhze", "body": "Wolves want nothing to do with Playoff Melo. Thunder in 4."}, {"id": "ds0lhze", "body": "Wolves want nothing to do with Playoff Melo. Thunder in 4."}, {"id": "ds0m0dn", "body": "\"Playoff Melo\" lmfao "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7nbr3o", "body": "4 and 5 seed in Western conference. both have similiar talent, who would win?"}, {"id": "ds0lu4l", "body": "Wolves have more talent so them."}, {"id": "ds0lu4l", "body": "Wolves have more talent so them."}, {"id": "ds0mo1a", "body": "Why do you think the Wolves have more talent?\n\n"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7ihq5a", "body": ""}, {"id": "dqytuxj", "body": "Doesn\u2019t he have personal beef with MJ?"}, {"id": "dqytuxj", "body": "Doesn\u2019t he have personal beef with MJ?"}, {"id": "dqytykk", "body": "Yeah. They were at a party and IT approached him. MJ responded by saying \u201chuh? Who the fuck let the Oompa Loompa from the Chocolate factory in? Where\u2019s Willy?\u201d \n\nEDIT: this is about Bad Boy Piston Isiah but IT (midget) still has beef with MJ for the reasons stated above "}, {"id": "dqytykk", "body": "Yeah. They were at a party and IT approached him. MJ responded by saying \u201chuh? Who the fuck let the Oompa Loompa from the Chocolate factory in? Where\u2019s Willy?\u201d \n\nEDIT: this is about Bad Boy Piston Isiah but IT (midget) still has beef with MJ for the reasons stated above "}, {"id": "dqyutz1", "body": "GOAT"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ihq5a", "body": ""}, {"id": "dqytv4f", "body": "Thomas hates Jordan and Jordan hates Thomas so this is no surprise.\n\nEven so, its not that hot of a take. Players in Thomas' era grew up idolizing the 70s players. Hard to say someone you played alongside is the GOAT. Plus, in terms of career accomplishments, Kareem can't be topped."}, {"id": "dqytv4f", "body": "Thomas hates Jordan and Jordan hates Thomas so this is no surprise.\n\nEven so, its not that hot of a take. Players in Thomas' era grew up idolizing the 70s players. Hard to say someone you played alongside is the GOAT. Plus, in terms of career accomplishments, Kareem can't be topped."}, {"id": "dqz04a4", "body": "Bill Russell disagrees\n\nOne less MVP,  5 more rings, defensive award named after him. \n\nKareem's stats destroy Bill's though, that's why he's better, not awards/accomplishments. "}, {"id": "dqz04a4", "body": "Bill Russell disagrees\n\nOne less MVP,  5 more rings, defensive award named after him. \n\nKareem's stats destroy Bill's though, that's why he's better, not awards/accomplishments. "}, {"id": "dqz113k", "body": "Depending on your definition of career you can go back to college and then things start to even out, accomplishment wise, though Russell still has the advantage. "}, {"id": "dqz113k", "body": "Depending on your definition of career you can go back to college and then things start to even out, accomplishment wise, though Russell still has the advantage. "}, {"id": "dqzk256", "body": "Russell's resume in College is actually on par if not better than Kareem. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ihq5a", "body": ""}, {"id": "dqytwse", "body": "still hasnt gotten over being skipped for the dream team huh?"}, {"id": "dqytwse", "body": "still hasnt gotten over being skipped for the dream team huh?"}, {"id": "dqyxf3m", "body": "Honestly would you?"}, {"id": "dqyxf3m", "body": "Honestly would you?"}, {"id": "dqyxqzv", "body": "Based on what other guys on the team said about IT, he earned I\ufe0ft."}, {"id": "dqyxqzv", "body": "Based on what other guys on the team said about IT, he earned I\ufe0ft."}, {"id": "dqz5d17", "body": "He was just a physical, dirty player. They hated him cuz he talked shit to u while he fucking destroyed you."}, {"id": "dqz5d17", "body": "He was just a physical, dirty player. They hated him cuz he talked shit to u while he fucking destroyed you."}, {"id": "dqzbk9z", "body": "According to Magic Johnson, Thomas questioned his sexuality after he announced he had HIV. \n\nI'm guess all the player from back then, just like they do now, know how to separate what happens on the court from what happens in real life. Everybody was talking shit, very few players got blacklisted from being on team USA. I'd bet he did a little more than standard on the court trash talk. "}, {"id": "dqzbk9z", "body": "According to Magic Johnson, Thomas questioned his sexuality after he announced he had HIV. \n\nI'm guess all the player from back then, just like they do now, know how to separate what happens on the court from what happens in real life. Everybody was talking shit, very few players got blacklisted from being on team USA. I'd bet he did a little more than standard on the court trash talk. "}, {"id": "dqzdo5t", "body": "I mean what else do y think he did.\n\n\nHe and jordan went at it. Jordan wasnt exactly a good person lol, he was a mean ass dude. His game was to get in your head and make you fear him. He hated anyone who wasnt afraid of him"}, {"id": "dqzdo5t", "body": "I mean what else do y think he did.\n\n\nHe and jordan went at it. Jordan wasnt exactly a good person lol, he was a mean ass dude. His game was to get in your head and make you fear him. He hated anyone who wasnt afraid of him"}, {"id": "dqzdspe", "body": "I mean who knows what else he did. All I know if all these guys didn't want to play with him. Malone was a pile of shit, but people were fine playing with him. Jordan treated a lot of people like crape, but nobody had a problem playing with him. IT must've done something worse (calling a man gay because he has AIDS for example) that made all those guys not want him on the team."}, {"id": "dqzdspe", "body": "I mean who knows what else he did. All I know if all these guys didn't want to play with him. Malone was a pile of shit, but people were fine playing with him. Jordan treated a lot of people like crape, but nobody had a problem playing with him. IT must've done something worse (calling a man gay because he has AIDS for example) that made all those guys not want him on the team."}, {"id": "dqzdv5k", "body": "Well IT's teams would specifically target, intimidate and try to hurt (not injure) the best players. That why they all hated him cuz he was dirty. He was dirtier than malone. They just hate him on the court, but it seeped into real life"}, {"id": "dqzdv5k", "body": "Well IT's teams would specifically target, intimidate and try to hurt (not injure) the best players. That why they all hated him cuz he was dirty. He was dirtier than malone. They just hate him on the court, but it seeped into real life"}, {"id": "dqze7pf", "body": "People keep saying this, but accusing somebody of being gay due to the fact that they have AIDS seems like some real life shit to me"}, {"id": "dqze7pf", "body": "People keep saying this, but accusing somebody of being gay due to the fact that they have AIDS seems like some real life shit to me"}, {"id": "dqzptcc", "body": "Let me repeat everyone thought magic was gay, this was in the 90s and we didn\u2019t know much about the killer virus. And then pics of magic kissing zeke before games, zeke just allegedly stupidly said what everyone was thinking."}, {"id": "dqzptcc", "body": "Let me repeat everyone thought magic was gay, this was in the 90s and we didn\u2019t know much about the killer virus. And then pics of magic kissing zeke before games, zeke just allegedly stupidly said what everyone was thinking."}, {"id": "dr082z3", "body": "Well, for whatever reason Magic took what IT said a lot more personally than he did anybody else. I wasn't alive when all that went down, so I gotta assume Magic had much better idea of how people were treating Magic than anybody here does. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ihq5a", "body": ""}, {"id": "dqyty9s", "body": "Can't disagree with a word he says even though I don't agree with the opinion."}, {"id": "dqyty9s", "body": "Can't disagree with a word he says even though I don't agree with the opinion."}, {"id": "dqywurf", "body": "what an open-minded take on a charged statement. kudos to you. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ihq5a", "body": ""}, {"id": "dqyuco4", "body": "I thought he would say himself"}, {"id": "dqyuco4", "body": "I thought he would say himself"}, {"id": "dqzmnhk", "body": "He was actually amazingly humble all things considered."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ihq5a", "body": ""}, {"id": "dqyuhl1", "body": "So many hot takes on this video."}, {"id": "dqyuhl1", "body": "So many hot takes on this video."}, {"id": "dqz6emg", "body": "It's asking Isaiah Thomas what he thinks. I would say it's an interview and less about hot takes."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ihq5a", "body": ""}, {"id": "dqyumvc", "body": "I disagree but some bronsexuals will still say that Bron Bron is better than Kareem. He's not even better than MJ let alone kobe"}, {"id": "dqyumvc", "body": "I disagree but some bronsexuals will still say that Bron Bron is better than Kareem. He's not even better than MJ let alone kobe"}, {"id": "dqyuxu1", "body": "Calm down my guy"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ihq5a", "body": ""}, {"id": "dqyuqxb", "body": "He has the best resume \n\nMost mvps\n\nMost points\n\nMost wins\n\nMost win shares\n\nMost unstoppable move\n\nMost all NBA selections\n\nMost fg\n\n3rd most rebounds\n\n6 rings\n\n"}, {"id": "dqyuqxb", "body": "He has the best resume \n\nMost mvps\n\nMost points\n\nMost wins\n\nMost win shares\n\nMost unstoppable move\n\nMost all NBA selections\n\nMost fg\n\n3rd most rebounds\n\n6 rings\n\n"}, {"id": "dqyzuyc", "body": "Don't forget about that time he almost beat Bruce Lee"}, {"id": "dqyzuyc", "body": "Don't forget about that time he almost beat Bruce Lee"}, {"id": "dqz3cuc", "body": "All while being a pilot to a commercial airline"}, {"id": "dqz3cuc", "body": "All while being a pilot to a commercial airline"}, {"id": "dqz6607", "body": "You mean [Roger Murdock?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ2GQgs0MR4)"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ihq5a", "body": ""}, {"id": "dqyvyac", "body": "Do they do this shit every show?"}, {"id": "dqyvyac", "body": "Do they do this shit every show?"}, {"id": "dqz26lo", "body": "there seems to be no other question that \"journalists\" want answered."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ihq5a", "body": ""}, {"id": "dqyzdum", "body": "Kareem has the best basketball resume from top to bottom, whether HS, college, and pro. The accolades and personal awards rival if not beat MJ's. I agree MJ's NBA career when considered alone is unrivaled but again Kareem has the closest argument, especially in the modern era.\n\nThis isn't a hot take at all and really a disrespect to Kareem's legacy to not at least say it is a valid argument. Most of you dismissing it as simply Zeke having beef with MJ and dismissing it."}, {"id": "dqyzdum", "body": "Kareem has the best basketball resume from top to bottom, whether HS, college, and pro. The accolades and personal awards rival if not beat MJ's. I agree MJ's NBA career when considered alone is unrivaled but again Kareem has the closest argument, especially in the modern era.\n\nThis isn't a hot take at all and really a disrespect to Kareem's legacy to not at least say it is a valid argument. Most of you dismissing it as simply Zeke having beef with MJ and dismissing it."}, {"id": "dqz45ap", "body": "The issue is though, the thing that holds me back, is that this seems like revisionist history. MJ played against KAJ, if KAJ was so good, then why was it so easy for Jordan to be anointed the GOAT? People were saying that after the first 3 peat. Where were the people saying KAJ was the best back then?"}, {"id": "dqz45ap", "body": "The issue is though, the thing that holds me back, is that this seems like revisionist history. MJ played against KAJ, if KAJ was so good, then why was it so easy for Jordan to be anointed the GOAT? People were saying that after the first 3 peat. Where were the people saying KAJ was the best back then?"}, {"id": "dqz5f0z", "body": "Kareem lakers beat bulls..."}, {"id": "dqz5f0z", "body": "Kareem lakers beat bulls..."}, {"id": "dqz5qxg", "body": "I'm saying you had people who were familiar with KAJs careers, and yet seem to easily just day that Jordan was the best. That seems confusing."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7kgq58", "body": "I'm talking a dude that's an incredible player that consistently makes really, really dumb plays."}, {"id": "dre6akx", "body": "Westbrook"}, {"id": "dre6akx", "body": "Westbrook"}, {"id": "dre701d", "body": "You took the bait man"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7kgq58", "body": "I'm talking a dude that's an incredible player that consistently makes really, really dumb plays."}, {"id": "dre6azk", "body": "Boogie."}, {"id": "dre6azk", "body": "Boogie."}, {"id": "dre6f0x", "body": "Boogie is too good of a passer to be considered."}, {"id": "dre6f0x", "body": "Boogie is too good of a passer to be considered."}, {"id": "dre6lve", "body": "So does the same apply to Russ?"}, {"id": "dre6lve", "body": "So does the same apply to Russ?"}, {"id": "dre6yy9", "body": "Not for me. Boogie plays the center position. For that position, Boogie's passing is elite. Not just in his stats but the shots that he's creating from his passes. Westbrook plays PG. And for his position, he's an average passer that's overextending to statpad."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7kgq58", "body": "I'm talking a dude that's an incredible player that consistently makes really, really dumb plays."}, {"id": "dre6c3l", "body": "You just really want people to say Westbrook dont you"}, {"id": "dre6c3l", "body": "You just really want people to say Westbrook dont you"}, {"id": "dre6dod", "body": "Westbrook lol... its so obvious and clear "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7kgq58", "body": "I'm talking a dude that's an incredible player that consistently makes really, really dumb plays."}, {"id": "dre6fg1", "body": "This is sucha set up lol\n\nYall westbrook haters arent even trying anymore"}, {"id": "dre6fg1", "body": "This is sucha set up lol\n\nYall westbrook haters arent even trying anymore"}, {"id": "dre8jbe", "body": "r/nba has a clear anti-WB bias. I had a meta thread about the issue on here get deleted for some reason but blatant shitposts about it like this thread are allowed to stay up."}, {"id": "dre8jbe", "body": "r/nba has a clear anti-WB bias. I had a meta thread about the issue on here get deleted for some reason but blatant shitposts about it like this thread are allowed to stay up."}, {"id": "dre8lz8", "body": "Ive noticed Mods hate Russ too so thats why\n\nThe other night they were deleting his dunks posted by people thru streamable, but kept up all the shit posts"}, {"id": "dre8lz8", "body": "Ive noticed Mods hate Russ too so thats why\n\nThe other night they were deleting his dunks posted by people thru streamable, but kept up all the shit posts"}, {"id": "dre9po0", "body": "Mods have too many biases lol.\n\nLike theres certain fan bases with trigger happy mods yiu dont want to argue with lol"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7kgq58", "body": "I'm talking a dude that's an incredible player that consistently makes really, really dumb plays."}, {"id": "dre6fgi", "body": "KAT is a great player but completely lacks awareness sometimes"}, {"id": "dre6fgi", "body": "KAT is a great player but completely lacks awareness sometimes"}, {"id": "dre6n5e", "body": "This is actually a good answer lol"}, {"id": "dre6n5e", "body": "This is actually a good answer lol"}, {"id": "dre7kcn", "body": "Love your name"}, {"id": "dre7kcn", "body": "Love your name"}, {"id": "dre9gak", "body": "You like a meme that was never even funny in the first place?"}, {"id": "dre9gak", "body": "You like a meme that was never even funny in the first place?"}, {"id": "dre9ku1", "body": "Like ' LeBron *dad dick*'? "}, {"id": "dre9ku1", "body": "Like ' LeBron *dad dick*'? "}, {"id": "dreah8y", "body": "Yeah, exactly like that one."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7kgq58", "body": "I'm talking a dude that's an incredible player that consistently makes really, really dumb plays."}, {"id": "dre6fml", "body": "OP playing 1D chess with the setup"}, {"id": "dre6fml", "body": "OP playing 1D chess with the setup"}, {"id": "dre7a26", "body": "&gt; 1D chess \n\n1D Checker"}, {"id": "dre7a26", "body": "&gt; 1D chess \n\n1D Checker"}, {"id": "dred29q", "body": "I like how 'checker' isn't even pluralized lol"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7kgq58", "body": "I'm talking a dude that's an incredible player that consistently makes really, really dumb plays."}, {"id": "dre6jvl", "body": "I don't haven't watched enough games, but Embiid came into my head? Only because he's been playing for so little"}, {"id": "dre6jvl", "body": "I don't haven't watched enough games, but Embiid came into my head? Only because he's been playing for so little"}, {"id": "dre6xfi", "body": "Naw he has shown a lot of improvement with passing out of doubles and finding cutting Simmons/Covington and stuff like that compared to last year. That puts him ahead of a lot of bigs in addition to his great defensive iq (I consider him to have better than KAT overall for example)"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7kgq58", "body": "I'm talking a dude that's an incredible player that consistently makes really, really dumb plays."}, {"id": "dre6n19", "body": "Chris Paul"}, {"id": "dre6n19", "body": "Chris Paul"}, {"id": "dre6s8u", "body": "Pause"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7kgq58", "body": "I'm talking a dude that's an incredible player that consistently makes really, really dumb plays."}, {"id": "dre6rg8", "body": "Lance Stephenson"}, {"id": "dre6rg8", "body": "Lance Stephenson"}, {"id": "dre8lfh", "body": "Definitely up there. Got all kinds of talent "}, {"id": "dre8lfh", "body": "Definitely up there. Got all kinds of talent "}, {"id": "drejao8", "body": "Blow in your ears during playoff levels"}, {"id": "drejao8", "body": "Blow in your ears during playoff levels"}, {"id": "drejdnv", "body": "That's a high IQ play right there though to distract LeBron"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7kgq58", "body": "I'm talking a dude that's an incredible player that consistently makes really, really dumb plays."}, {"id": "dre6vgn", "body": "Starting-quality point guard? Probably DRose. \n\nHe's my favorite player of all time but in today's NBA he's very out of place."}, {"id": "dre6vgn", "body": "Starting-quality point guard? Probably DRose. \n\nHe's my favorite player of all time but in today's NBA he's very out of place."}, {"id": "dre7wmc", "body": "Not sure Rose is \"starting-quality\" anymore."}, {"id": "dre7wmc", "body": "Not sure Rose is \"starting-quality\" anymore."}, {"id": "dre812c", "body": "He is, just not on his current team. He's bottom 10 for sure but don't disrespect the man's talent."}, {"id": "dre812c", "body": "He is, just not on his current team. He's bottom 10 for sure but don't disrespect the man's talent."}, {"id": "dre8plm", "body": "He\u2019s ranked at the very bottom of nearly every single statistic this year. More to than assists, worst defensive pg in nba"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7kgq58", "body": "I'm talking a dude that's an incredible player that consistently makes really, really dumb plays."}, {"id": "dre7mqs", "body": "Kyle Lowry"}, {"id": "dre7mqs", "body": "Kyle Lowry"}, {"id": "dre8l2o", "body": "Demar is way way worse in terms of bball IQ of we're talking raps"}, {"id": "dre8l2o", "body": "Demar is way way worse in terms of bball IQ of we're talking raps"}, {"id": "dre8o08", "body": "Hahahahaha Lowry is great I was just hating cause I\u2019m a thunder fan! Gotta have Brodie\u2019s back"}, {"id": "dre8o08", "body": "Hahahahaha Lowry is great I was just hating cause I\u2019m a thunder fan! Gotta have Brodie\u2019s back"}, {"id": "dre9b4x", "body": "Yeah for real I'm a huge Westbrook fan and know the sub disagrees but I actually had JaVale in my head when I asked this. No offense to Westbrook, didn't think it was that obvious of an answer."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7l9uwp", "body": "We should be happy with the Thomas-Irving trade. Kyrie has been great for us while IT has been injured all year. I think his hip injury is going to be a problem for him going forward. As much as I respect and appreciate what he did for us we weren't going to give him a max contract (I honestly don't think any team will).\n\nAnother thing I've been seeing a lot of is Anthony Davis to Boston rumors. Davis to Boston isn't likely. I don't think Ainge wants to part ways with a lot of our younger players for an injury prone big man. Davis also has three years left on his contract and I'm sure New Orleans has no interest in moving him.  I think they would move Cousins before they move Davis.\n\nI also think Tatum should not be involved in any trade discussion.\n\nThoughts?"}, {"id": "drkkntg", "body": "The people posting those things have no idea what they\u2019re talking about, and the most recent one is from a human run spam account. They\u2019re trolls and low effort, just ignore them."}, {"id": "drkkntg", "body": "The people posting those things have no idea what they\u2019re talking about, and the most recent one is from a human run spam account. They\u2019re trolls and low effort, just ignore them."}, {"id": "drkkqh4", "body": "Sad!"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7l9uwp", "body": "We should be happy with the Thomas-Irving trade. Kyrie has been great for us while IT has been injured all year. I think his hip injury is going to be a problem for him going forward. As much as I respect and appreciate what he did for us we weren't going to give him a max contract (I honestly don't think any team will).\n\nAnother thing I've been seeing a lot of is Anthony Davis to Boston rumors. Davis to Boston isn't likely. I don't think Ainge wants to part ways with a lot of our younger players for an injury prone big man. Davis also has three years left on his contract and I'm sure New Orleans has no interest in moving him.  I think they would move Cousins before they move Davis.\n\nI also think Tatum should not be involved in any trade discussion.\n\nThoughts?"}, {"id": "drkknuy", "body": "Highly doubt New Orleans will trade AD anytime soon. "}, {"id": "drkknuy", "body": "Highly doubt New Orleans will trade AD anytime soon. "}, {"id": "drkmngj", "body": "If this season fail we should "}, {"id": "drkmngj", "body": "If this season fail we should "}, {"id": "drknql7", "body": "Why? That would be the absolute dumbest thing"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7l9uwp", "body": "We should be happy with the Thomas-Irving trade. Kyrie has been great for us while IT has been injured all year. I think his hip injury is going to be a problem for him going forward. As much as I respect and appreciate what he did for us we weren't going to give him a max contract (I honestly don't think any team will).\n\nAnother thing I've been seeing a lot of is Anthony Davis to Boston rumors. Davis to Boston isn't likely. I don't think Ainge wants to part ways with a lot of our younger players for an injury prone big man. Davis also has three years left on his contract and I'm sure New Orleans has no interest in moving him.  I think they would move Cousins before they move Davis.\n\nI also think Tatum should not be involved in any trade discussion.\n\nThoughts?"}, {"id": "drkknvh", "body": "you saw one post"}, {"id": "drkknvh", "body": "you saw one post"}, {"id": "drklapf", "body": "and the dude was mocked relentlessly. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7l9uwp", "body": "We should be happy with the Thomas-Irving trade. Kyrie has been great for us while IT has been injured all year. I think his hip injury is going to be a problem for him going forward. As much as I respect and appreciate what he did for us we weren't going to give him a max contract (I honestly don't think any team will).\n\nAnother thing I've been seeing a lot of is Anthony Davis to Boston rumors. Davis to Boston isn't likely. I don't think Ainge wants to part ways with a lot of our younger players for an injury prone big man. Davis also has three years left on his contract and I'm sure New Orleans has no interest in moving him.  I think they would move Cousins before they move Davis.\n\nI also think Tatum should not be involved in any trade discussion.\n\nThoughts?"}, {"id": "drkkt0a", "body": "If you can get AD, you trade Tatum instantly as part of the package"}, {"id": "drkkt0a", "body": "If you can get AD, you trade Tatum instantly as part of the package"}, {"id": "drkl9oh", "body": "But would you trade horford Tatum brown and the lakers pick? Of course not "}, {"id": "drkl9oh", "body": "But would you trade horford Tatum brown and the lakers pick? Of course not "}, {"id": "drkldah", "body": "Well of course not, but that's a problem with the package, not Tatum."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7kqllm", "body": "[deleted]"}, {"id": "drgeymj", "body": "Yea he\u2019s defense is looking terrible, who would of thought that drinking 10 liters of coke per day would be bad"}, {"id": "drgeymj", "body": "Yea he\u2019s defense is looking terrible, who would of thought that drinking 10 liters of coke per day would be bad"}, {"id": "drgezuq", "body": "Apparently he stopped that when he was drafted."}, {"id": "drgezuq", "body": "Apparently he stopped that when he was drafted."}, {"id": "drgf2eu", "body": "That dosnt even sound human"}, {"id": "drgf2eu", "body": "That dosnt even sound human"}, {"id": "drgf4xb", "body": "It was actually anywhere from like 3 to 6 L a day of Coke I believe, but still, disgustingly high amount."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7kqllm", "body": "[deleted]"}, {"id": "drgeyo6", "body": "He\u2019s been injured and was on a minutes restriction tonight "}, {"id": "drgeyo6", "body": "He\u2019s been injured and was on a minutes restriction tonight "}, {"id": "drgfdf6", "body": "One thing though is Malone isn\u2019t running the offense through him much at all this year(which makes zero sense after last year). At the end of the first he got looked off probably 4-5 times after trying to establish position or call for the ball, it was kind of maddening."}, {"id": "drgfdf6", "body": "One thing though is Malone isn\u2019t running the offense through him much at all this year(which makes zero sense after last year). At the end of the first he got looked off probably 4-5 times after trying to establish position or call for the ball, it was kind of maddening."}, {"id": "drgg09x", "body": "Against popular opinion of my fellow Nugs, Malone knows what he\u2019s doing. He will be the head coach of Denver for years to come. Can you blame him for being cautious of running a young team through a 22-23 year old center with less than 3 years in the league? We weren\u2019t the most potent offensive team the second half of last years season for no reason. \n\nHe knows we aren\u2019t getting to finals. And our FO is better than most in the east. The fact the Nugs are even in contention for the 4th seed is amazing. We may not have the spotlight some teams have, but we have the assets and atmosphere to earn ourselves another big name player to take us to the WCF or finals a few years down the road. \n\nWe aren\u2019t looking for now, we\u2019re looking to dominate the western conference a few years down the road. Mike or bust, baby. "}, {"id": "drgg09x", "body": "Against popular opinion of my fellow Nugs, Malone knows what he\u2019s doing. He will be the head coach of Denver for years to come. Can you blame him for being cautious of running a young team through a 22-23 year old center with less than 3 years in the league? We weren\u2019t the most potent offensive team the second half of last years season for no reason. \n\nHe knows we aren\u2019t getting to finals. And our FO is better than most in the east. The fact the Nugs are even in contention for the 4th seed is amazing. We may not have the spotlight some teams have, but we have the assets and atmosphere to earn ourselves another big name player to take us to the WCF or finals a few years down the road. \n\nWe aren\u2019t looking for now, we\u2019re looking to dominate the western conference a few years down the road. Mike or bust, baby. "}, {"id": "drggx76", "body": "No, it's because of Jokic and Finch we were the most potent offense. You really think that was Malone's doing? It's not a coincidence that we're using Jokic completely different now and it's not what made us so good on offense last year. Anyway, Malone is cautious of running the offense through the guy that made us so potent last year, but not through Murray? Mudiay? Barton? Plumlee? We *should* be running the offense through Jokic.\n\nOur playoff seed is not a guarantee. It's moot if we don't hold onto it. I assure you Malone is on the hot seat if he drops the ball this year. He's not a surefire keeper."}, {"id": "drggx76", "body": "No, it's because of Jokic and Finch we were the most potent offense. You really think that was Malone's doing? It's not a coincidence that we're using Jokic completely different now and it's not what made us so good on offense last year. Anyway, Malone is cautious of running the offense through the guy that made us so potent last year, but not through Murray? Mudiay? Barton? Plumlee? We *should* be running the offense through Jokic.\n\nOur playoff seed is not a guarantee. It's moot if we don't hold onto it. I assure you Malone is on the hot seat if he drops the ball this year. He's not a surefire keeper."}, {"id": "drgh26f", "body": "Especially because Malone\u2019s speciality as far as I understand it is defense. \n\nI\u2019m glad to see that guys opinion being held in poor regard I think it\u2019s crazy they aren\u2019t funneling the ball through Jokic especially when he\u2019s such a playmaker and looks to get other guys involved.\n\nI agree if they underperform this year and next(or part of next) he will likely be fired, deservedly imo."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7kqllm", "body": "[deleted]"}, {"id": "drgf1al", "body": "He hasnt fallen off at all, his defense has improved and hes coming off an injury. "}, {"id": "drgf1al", "body": "He hasnt fallen off at all, his defense has improved and hes coming off an injury. "}, {"id": "drgf9m4", "body": "He's top 10 in RPM.  \n\nOf course advanced stats aren't everything, but he has to be doing something right.  Have to admit I've only seen 4 or 5 Nuggets games and he only played in 2 of them."}, {"id": "drgf9m4", "body": "He's top 10 in RPM.  \n\nOf course advanced stats aren't everything, but he has to be doing something right.  Have to admit I've only seen 4 or 5 Nuggets games and he only played in 2 of them."}, {"id": "drggbt4", "body": "Advanced stats are literally everything in the \u201cJoker is elite\u201d argument "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7kqllm", "body": "[deleted]"}, {"id": "drgf1wk", "body": "adjusting to millsap. then injured. still playing with guards who can't throw a post entry pass. "}, {"id": "drgf1wk", "body": "adjusting to millsap. then injured. still playing with guards who can't throw a post entry pass. "}, {"id": "drgf5g6", "body": "Tbf Jokic is always hanging out at the 3pt line for some reason he should be in the post considering Steven was out "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7kqllm", "body": "[deleted]"}, {"id": "drgf5cy", "body": "Didn't he literally just come back from injury? And the Nuggets literally lost Millsap (their 2nd best player) like half a month ago. Are you even watching the NBA?"}, {"id": "drgf5cy", "body": "Didn't he literally just come back from injury? And the Nuggets literally lost Millsap (their 2nd best player) like half a month ago. Are you even watching the NBA?"}, {"id": "drgfujb", "body": "It's /r/nba, of course he's not actually watching games"}, {"id": "drgfujb", "body": "It's /r/nba, of course he's not actually watching games"}, {"id": "drggtk4", "body": "he clearly relies on his NBA scouts"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7kqllm", "body": "[deleted]"}, {"id": "drgfmyz", "body": "He is incredibly overrated on this sub (mostly due to all the Euro's that are on here). He is one of the most passive offensive players I have ever seen."}, {"id": "drgfmyz", "body": "He is incredibly overrated on this sub (mostly due to all the Euro's that are on here). He is one of the most passive offensive players I have ever seen."}, {"id": "drggmb2", "body": "And the worst defender"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7jpem1", "body": "Harden is having another MVP caliber season, and before Steph's injury, he was in the MVP discussion as well. That being said, who do you think is a better player and why?"}, {"id": "dr85qfn", "body": "Chase Budinger "}, {"id": "dr85qfn", "body": "Chase Budinger "}, {"id": "dr86215", "body": "Well yes obviously but that\u2019s not the question "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7jpem1", "body": "Harden is having another MVP caliber season, and before Steph's injury, he was in the MVP discussion as well. That being said, who do you think is a better player and why?"}, {"id": "dr85qip", "body": "Overall Steph, harden is having the better season and you could argue he was overall better last season"}, {"id": "dr85qip", "body": "Overall Steph, harden is having the better season and you could argue he was overall better last season"}, {"id": "dr85vmm", "body": "I think the most accurate statement would be the Harden is better, but Steph is more valuable"}, {"id": "dr85vmm", "body": "I think the most accurate statement would be the Harden is better, but Steph is more valuable"}, {"id": "dr85zek", "body": "Harden is having better season but Steph is just a better player."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7jpem1", "body": "Harden is having another MVP caliber season, and before Steph's injury, he was in the MVP discussion as well. That being said, who do you think is a better player and why?"}, {"id": "dr85rs0", "body": "The 2x MVP and 2x Champion. "}, {"id": "dr85rs0", "body": "The 2x MVP and 2x Champion. "}, {"id": "dr85ti7", "body": "Yeah the roles are just different right now. Curry doesn't handle the ball that much or need to score because of the system and players on the team"}, {"id": "dr85ti7", "body": "Yeah the roles are just different right now. Curry doesn't handle the ball that much or need to score because of the system and players on the team"}, {"id": "dr88oj1", "body": "Same with Harden, his stats are product of the system that lets him handle the Ball most of the time"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7jpem1", "body": "Harden is having another MVP caliber season, and before Steph's injury, he was in the MVP discussion as well. That being said, who do you think is a better player and why?"}, {"id": "dr86nql", "body": "Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't having a better team that helps you out offensively and defensively help a player (like Curry, for example) become even a better player? "}, {"id": "dr86nql", "body": "Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't having a better team that helps you out offensively and defensively help a player (like Curry, for example) become even a better player? "}, {"id": "dr8qlm1", "body": "Not really. The system we run maximizes how good our team is but suppresses Steph's stats somewhat. He gets the bailout and tough shots (and some easy spot up ones) while guys like Iggy and Dray get the real benefit of wide open shots (and KD gets the benefit of not getting doubled anymore). It's completely different from a system like Houston's that is just designed to give Harden monster stats, but probably isn't going to win them playoff games."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7mc5oy", "body": "I was just thinking about how discussions about who the greatest player will be in a couple of hundred years when we have gone through multiple major generations of basketball! Most of the players we talked about have been ones that have played after 1980, which means modern basketball has really only been \u201caround\u201d for about 40 years. Will people be treating the best players our generation has seen the same way we talk about guys that played in the 60s? As someone who is in his 20s I'm really excited to see the state of the NBA when I'm in my 70s. "}, {"id": "drsveh6", "body": "Stop"}, {"id": "drsveh6", "body": "Stop"}, {"id": "drsvml5", "body": "It's not a bad question. In 2070 how many people would still be alive to say that they have seen Michael Jordan play to establish that he's still the GOAT?"}, {"id": "drsvml5", "body": "It's not a bad question. In 2070 how many people would still be alive to say that they have seen Michael Jordan play to establish that he's still the GOAT?"}, {"id": "drsw01b", "body": "I'm just hoping our race in general is alive in 2070 tbh"}, {"id": "drsw01b", "body": "I'm just hoping our race in general is alive in 2070 tbh"}, {"id": "drswaxk", "body": "By race do you mean the human race in general?"}, {"id": "drswaxk", "body": "By race do you mean the human race in general?"}, {"id": "drswn9c", "body": "Yeah, that's what I was getting at "}, {"id": "drswn9c", "body": "Yeah, that's what I was getting at "}, {"id": "drswto3", "body": "Sorry if I sound ignorant, but what exactly do you think will happen? Are you talking about AI taking over or...?"}, {"id": "drswto3", "body": "Sorry if I sound ignorant, but what exactly do you think will happen? Are you talking about AI taking over or...?"}, {"id": "drsxc50", "body": "nuclear/atomic weaponry, technology keeps advancing at a fast pace year by year, tension grows between super powers, im not trying to be pessimistic but it\u2019s just scary to think of the possibilities especially how we\u2019re evolving as a society every year too... idk man be woke"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7mc5oy", "body": "I was just thinking about how discussions about who the greatest player will be in a couple of hundred years when we have gone through multiple major generations of basketball! Most of the players we talked about have been ones that have played after 1980, which means modern basketball has really only been \u201caround\u201d for about 40 years. Will people be treating the best players our generation has seen the same way we talk about guys that played in the 60s? As someone who is in his 20s I'm really excited to see the state of the NBA when I'm in my 70s. "}, {"id": "drsveih", "body": "Just look at other sports that have been around longer. They always separate the \"GOAT\" players by era. \n\nSoccer currently has Messi but there are ppl that still think Maradona or Pele are the best."}, {"id": "drsveih", "body": "Just look at other sports that have been around longer. They always separate the \"GOAT\" players by era. \n\nSoccer currently has Messi but there are ppl that still think Maradona or Pele are the best."}, {"id": "drswhu2", "body": "Thats blasphemous. Ronaldo is the GOAT"}, {"id": "drswhu2", "body": "Thats blasphemous. Ronaldo is the GOAT"}, {"id": "drswm9c", "body": "Man runs like a gazelle it\u2019s beautiful "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7mc5oy", "body": "I was just thinking about how discussions about who the greatest player will be in a couple of hundred years when we have gone through multiple major generations of basketball! Most of the players we talked about have been ones that have played after 1980, which means modern basketball has really only been \u201caround\u201d for about 40 years. Will people be treating the best players our generation has seen the same way we talk about guys that played in the 60s? As someone who is in his 20s I'm really excited to see the state of the NBA when I'm in my 70s. "}, {"id": "drsven1", "body": "I got Kareem and Wilt Top 5 though.  "}, {"id": "drsven1", "body": "I got Kareem and Wilt Top 5 though.  "}, {"id": "drswcim", "body": "L"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7mc5oy", "body": "I was just thinking about how discussions about who the greatest player will be in a couple of hundred years when we have gone through multiple major generations of basketball! Most of the players we talked about have been ones that have played after 1980, which means modern basketball has really only been \u201caround\u201d for about 40 years. Will people be treating the best players our generation has seen the same way we talk about guys that played in the 60s? As someone who is in his 20s I'm really excited to see the state of the NBA when I'm in my 70s. "}, {"id": "drsw867", "body": "Basketball may not be a popular sport in 50 years.\n\nI think you are very young, so your perception of the world is that it will always remain the same.\n\nA few decades ago boxing, baseball and horse racing were the most popular sports in America. Neither of those are top 3, bar maybe baseball, depending on what metrics you are judging things by.\n\nInstead of wondering what a discussion will look like, go look at what your grandpa or great grandpa thought was awesome when he was a youngster, he used to hang around the corner and talk about the latest heavyweight fight.\n\n"}, {"id": "drsw867", "body": "Basketball may not be a popular sport in 50 years.\n\nI think you are very young, so your perception of the world is that it will always remain the same.\n\nA few decades ago boxing, baseball and horse racing were the most popular sports in America. Neither of those are top 3, bar maybe baseball, depending on what metrics you are judging things by.\n\nInstead of wondering what a discussion will look like, go look at what your grandpa or great grandpa thought was awesome when he was a youngster, he used to hang around the corner and talk about the latest heavyweight fight.\n\n"}, {"id": "drt0dde", "body": "Im going to be devastated if basketball doesn't exist for the duration of my life."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7n7jv2", "body": "Basically what I'm asking is if he's actually a good off-ball player. He's been ranked top 4 in total touches (not adjusted for minutes) for 3 seasons now. Would he be just as effective without the ball? Being the franchise player of the Grizzlies it would make sense that the ball's in his hands most of the time and the numerous injuries to other starters necessitated the offense running through him. Bosh was able to adjust his game in his prime to better suit a 3rd option for the Miami big 3 and so was Love to a lesser degree. Would it be just as easy for Marc Gasol and is he not as ball-dominant as his stats suggest?"}, {"id": "drznx83", "body": "Well apart from Tyreke he doesn't have any real support atm. "}, {"id": "drznx83", "body": "Well apart from Tyreke he doesn't have any real support atm. "}, {"id": "drznzi4", "body": "Yeah but I want to know about more than just this season since injuries have hit Grizzlies hard. I'm not sure if they honestly had one full season where all their core players were healthy. If there was though that would be a good place to start looking to see his number of touches in comparison to other starters like a healthy Conley and ZBo. Need some Memphis fans to chip in."}, {"id": "drznzi4", "body": "Yeah but I want to know about more than just this season since injuries have hit Grizzlies hard. I'm not sure if they honestly had one full season where all their core players were healthy. If there was though that would be a good place to start looking to see his number of touches in comparison to other starters like a healthy Conley and ZBo. Need some Memphis fans to chip in."}, {"id": "drzo0g9", "body": "From what I've seen he is pretty good off the ball. A lot of the offence is run through him with elbow passes and post ups but he isn't really ball dominant "}, {"id": "drzo0g9", "body": "From what I've seen he is pretty good off the ball. A lot of the offence is run through him with elbow passes and post ups but he isn't really ball dominant "}, {"id": "drzo3l4", "body": "I guess another stat to consider would be average secs per touch. Forgot to consider that number of touches don't spell the whole picture. It would probably be better to look at how long the ball is in their possession. I think Marc is probably a good example. He needs the ball often to facilitate but the ball doesn't stick in his hands or become stagnant."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7n7jv2", "body": "Basically what I'm asking is if he's actually a good off-ball player. He's been ranked top 4 in total touches (not adjusted for minutes) for 3 seasons now. Would he be just as effective without the ball? Being the franchise player of the Grizzlies it would make sense that the ball's in his hands most of the time and the numerous injuries to other starters necessitated the offense running through him. Bosh was able to adjust his game in his prime to better suit a 3rd option for the Miami big 3 and so was Love to a lesser degree. Would it be just as easy for Marc Gasol and is he not as ball-dominant as his stats suggest?"}, {"id": "drzp0qt", "body": "Mike Conley is the main reason, a top PG is required in today's game to be relevant in the west. Gasol is one of the least selfish players I've ever seen. Ball Dominant, good lord !"}, {"id": "drzp0qt", "body": "Mike Conley is the main reason, a top PG is required in today's game to be relevant in the west. Gasol is one of the least selfish players I've ever seen. Ball Dominant, good lord !"}, {"id": "drzp5k3", "body": "I mean you can be an unselfish player and still be ball-dominant. They don't have to be mutually exclusive. Rondo and Westbrook to a lesser degree are players that both need the ball in their hands to be effective. Westbrook isn't as effective off-ball as he is with the ball. They both still rack up high assists but just need the ball in their hands to do their job as a floor general."}, {"id": "drzp5k3", "body": "I mean you can be an unselfish player and still be ball-dominant. They don't have to be mutually exclusive. Rondo and Westbrook to a lesser degree are players that both need the ball in their hands to be effective. Westbrook isn't as effective off-ball as he is with the ball. They both still rack up high assists but just need the ball in their hands to do their job as a floor general."}, {"id": "drzpb4g", "body": "Rondo and Westbrook aren't even comparable to Gasol in terms of unselfishness. Just because someone assists doesn't exactly make them unselfish. They both are their own people. Gasol has always been someone who doesn't force many shots and very much puts himself in the flow of the offense. This season it doesn't look good, because his team is dealing with injuries and the coach was fired and they're doing worse than expectations. He's been inefficient as well. I won't say ball dominant but he's tried to do more offensively, it just hasn't worked."}, {"id": "drzpb4g", "body": "Rondo and Westbrook aren't even comparable to Gasol in terms of unselfishness. Just because someone assists doesn't exactly make them unselfish. They both are their own people. Gasol has always been someone who doesn't force many shots and very much puts himself in the flow of the offense. This season it doesn't look good, because his team is dealing with injuries and the coach was fired and they're doing worse than expectations. He's been inefficient as well. I won't say ball dominant but he's tried to do more offensively, it just hasn't worked."}, {"id": "drzpgj9", "body": "Those are just examples but there's probably better ones. Namely CP3. The guy never jacks shots and contains his offense to his bread and butter mid range and drives to the basket. Even discarding assists aside, he's probably one of the least selfish guys in the league and still ball-dominant. Obviously he's shown he can be an excellent off-ball player in Houston, but before that he was one of the most ball-dominant players in the league, second to only Westbrook for point guards. "}, {"id": "drzpgj9", "body": "Those are just examples but there's probably better ones. Namely CP3. The guy never jacks shots and contains his offense to his bread and butter mid range and drives to the basket. Even discarding assists aside, he's probably one of the least selfish guys in the league and still ball-dominant. Obviously he's shown he can be an excellent off-ball player in Houston, but before that he was one of the most ball-dominant players in the league, second to only Westbrook for point guards. "}, {"id": "drzpobp", "body": "My point is those three PG's are ball dominant in spite of their roles and have been that throughout their careers, whilst Gasol is not, his involvement in the offense has increased mostly since last season. He's pretty good off ball as well which is critical for bigs in today's game. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7n7jv2", "body": "Basically what I'm asking is if he's actually a good off-ball player. He's been ranked top 4 in total touches (not adjusted for minutes) for 3 seasons now. Would he be just as effective without the ball? Being the franchise player of the Grizzlies it would make sense that the ball's in his hands most of the time and the numerous injuries to other starters necessitated the offense running through him. Bosh was able to adjust his game in his prime to better suit a 3rd option for the Miami big 3 and so was Love to a lesser degree. Would it be just as easy for Marc Gasol and is he not as ball-dominant as his stats suggest?"}, {"id": "ds03etp", "body": "Marc Gasol is a better version of Jokic who is a better version of Miles Plumlee. There may be more than one tier of separation between the guys though lol"}, {"id": "ds03etp", "body": "Marc Gasol is a better version of Jokic who is a better version of Miles Plumlee. There may be more than one tier of separation between the guys though lol"}, {"id": "ds041wl", "body": "good way of putting it. gasol's style is very different from jokic's, but their philosophies (for lack of a better word) seem to be about the same."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7lv5ci", "body": "Can be a dunk, game winner, flashy pass, block, anything. I don't think I really have a favorite play, but I gotta show some love to [JR Smiths dunk](https://youtu.be/yqE7UzjZ39I) vs the Heat, I didn't even know he had hops before since I wasn't watching back then. Also, try to include links to your answers."}, {"id": "drp6p25", "body": "Spider 2 Y Banana "}, {"id": "drp6p25", "body": "Spider 2 Y Banana "}, {"id": "drp6qn7", "body": "That is a vintage meme"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7lv5ci", "body": "Can be a dunk, game winner, flashy pass, block, anything. I don't think I really have a favorite play, but I gotta show some love to [JR Smiths dunk](https://youtu.be/yqE7UzjZ39I) vs the Heat, I didn't even know he had hops before since I wasn't watching back then. Also, try to include links to your answers."}, {"id": "drp733o", "body": "Manu dunk in Game 6 2014 Finals  \n'The block' by Lebron James  \n'Oh.. Spectacular move' by MJ  \nTim Duncan 3 pointer against Suns 2008  \n'The Shot' by MJ  \n'Dunk of Death' by Vince Carter  \n'3 pointer and shushing the crowd' by Kobe in 2008 Olympics  \n'13 Points 33 Seconds' by T-Mac  \n'Behind the back pass to Allen' by Rajon Rondo 2010 vs. Cavaliers  \n'Insta kill' by Manu vs. a Bat  \n'Hits the 3 and comes back to blocks James Harden' by Kawhi vs. Rockets"}, {"id": "drp733o", "body": "Manu dunk in Game 6 2014 Finals  \n'The block' by Lebron James  \n'Oh.. Spectacular move' by MJ  \nTim Duncan 3 pointer against Suns 2008  \n'The Shot' by MJ  \n'Dunk of Death' by Vince Carter  \n'3 pointer and shushing the crowd' by Kobe in 2008 Olympics  \n'13 Points 33 Seconds' by T-Mac  \n'Behind the back pass to Allen' by Rajon Rondo 2010 vs. Cavaliers  \n'Insta kill' by Manu vs. a Bat  \n'Hits the 3 and comes back to blocks James Harden' by Kawhi vs. Rockets"}, {"id": "drp8l92", "body": "Also:\n\nSteph Curry pull up half court 3 to beat OKC in 2016\n\nLeBron block on Tiago Splitter 2013 finals\n\nSteph Curry crazy behind the back around 3 defenders three pointer vs clippers 2015\n\nOld man Kobe up and under vs LeBron 2015\n\nJR Smith \u201cwe just saw a man fly\u201d\n\nShaq dunk on Chris Dudley\n\nKevin Love championship level defence on Curry 2016 finals"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7lv5ci", "body": "Can be a dunk, game winner, flashy pass, block, anything. I don't think I really have a favorite play, but I gotta show some love to [JR Smiths dunk](https://youtu.be/yqE7UzjZ39I) vs the Heat, I didn't even know he had hops before since I wasn't watching back then. Also, try to include links to your answers."}, {"id": "drp7iz3", "body": "[Kobe\u2019s behind the back reverse dunk](https://youtu.be/WXo0x0ZiNoE) \n\n"}, {"id": "drp7iz3", "body": "[Kobe\u2019s behind the back reverse dunk](https://youtu.be/WXo0x0ZiNoE) \n\n"}, {"id": "drpqtuj", "body": "I came here to say this"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7lv5ci", "body": "Can be a dunk, game winner, flashy pass, block, anything. I don't think I really have a favorite play, but I gotta show some love to [JR Smiths dunk](https://youtu.be/yqE7UzjZ39I) vs the Heat, I didn't even know he had hops before since I wasn't watching back then. Also, try to include links to your answers."}, {"id": "drp81nx", "body": "[this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPaZ4zRb5G0)"}, {"id": "drp81nx", "body": "[this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPaZ4zRb5G0)"}, {"id": "drpazkk", "body": "That was a spectacular play. Good times "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7lv5ci", "body": "Can be a dunk, game winner, flashy pass, block, anything. I don't think I really have a favorite play, but I gotta show some love to [JR Smiths dunk](https://youtu.be/yqE7UzjZ39I) vs the Heat, I didn't even know he had hops before since I wasn't watching back then. Also, try to include links to your answers."}, {"id": "drp88lj", "body": "Vince carter alley oop vs clippers that pass was so far behind him and he still threw it down. \n\nThe commentators really ruin it because I can only find a video of the clippers announcers and the guy is like \"okay you saw what you wanted get it out of your system\" like come on man that had to be one of the best dunks you've ever seen and you're going to make that petty/lame of a call."}, {"id": "drp88lj", "body": "Vince carter alley oop vs clippers that pass was so far behind him and he still threw it down. \n\nThe commentators really ruin it because I can only find a video of the clippers announcers and the guy is like \"okay you saw what you wanted get it out of your system\" like come on man that had to be one of the best dunks you've ever seen and you're going to make that petty/lame of a call."}, {"id": "drp8j04", "body": "You know what you talking about. Shit was just unreal "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7lv5ci", "body": "Can be a dunk, game winner, flashy pass, block, anything. I don't think I really have a favorite play, but I gotta show some love to [JR Smiths dunk](https://youtu.be/yqE7UzjZ39I) vs the Heat, I didn't even know he had hops before since I wasn't watching back then. Also, try to include links to your answers."}, {"id": "drp8l7x", "body": "easy.. Jermaine O\u2019Neal\u2019s right hook to that Pistons fan during the Malice in the Palace"}, {"id": "drp8l7x", "body": "easy.. Jermaine O\u2019Neal\u2019s right hook to that Pistons fan during the Malice in the Palace"}, {"id": "drpg3aj", "body": "As a Pistons fan I approve of this. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7mdj06", "body": "[removed]"}, {"id": "drt5koh", "body": "Guys, we may have found the biggest Bronsexual on this sub"}, {"id": "drt5koh", "body": "Guys, we may have found the biggest Bronsexual on this sub"}, {"id": "drt5m4l", "body": "LeDetication"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7mdj06", "body": "[removed]"}, {"id": "drt5u32", "body": "Jordan 4 Bred and Banned 1s \n\nSnake's Galaxy 4s are nice too "}, {"id": "drt5u32", "body": "Jordan 4 Bred and Banned 1s \n\nSnake's Galaxy 4s are nice too "}, {"id": "drt7dek", "body": "\ud83d\ude02\ud83d\ude02\ud83d\ude02Damn snake galaxy 4\u2019s lmfao"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7mdj06", "body": "[removed]"}, {"id": "drt64gt", "body": "kobe 8s fit like a fuckin glove"}, {"id": "drt64gt", "body": "kobe 8s fit like a fuckin glove"}, {"id": "drt83ez", "body": "Kobe 6s were pretty good too"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr27xnq", "body": "Water is wet"}, {"id": "dr27xnq", "body": "Water is wet"}, {"id": "dr27zbi", "body": "Sky is blue\n\nEarth is flat\n\nedit. hey what's with the downvotes, it was clearly  a joke you fucking dildos"}, {"id": "dr27zbi", "body": "Sky is blue\n\nEarth is flat\n\nedit. hey what's with the downvotes, it was clearly  a joke you fucking dildos"}, {"id": "dr2l0ri", "body": "Don't know if people think you're serious or if the joke has gotten stale"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr27yc9", "body": "as he should"}, {"id": "dr27yc9", "body": "as he should"}, {"id": "dr2qm75", "body": "Yeah not sure why this is news. \"GM looks to get something out of star player instead of letting them walk in free agency.\""}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr27z7b", "body": "Thats Dell Demps' music!!!"}, {"id": "dr27z7b", "body": "Thats Dell Demps' music!!!"}, {"id": "dr283il", "body": "Naw Cavs coming for that ass."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr2803h", "body": "The pacers had enough trouble with his trade value considering he was a one Year rental, not sure how much they'd realistically be able to get back now, the team he's traded too won't even have a full guaranteed season with him"}, {"id": "dr2803h", "body": "The pacers had enough trouble with his trade value considering he was a one Year rental, not sure how much they'd realistically be able to get back now, the team he's traded too won't even have a full guaranteed season with him"}, {"id": "dr28c75", "body": "i bet presti might try to dupe magic into a deal"}, {"id": "dr28c75", "body": "i bet presti might try to dupe magic into a deal"}, {"id": "dr28z7j", "body": "Hit up the bulls and get the package that they got for Butler lol"}, {"id": "dr28z7j", "body": "Hit up the bulls and get the package that they got for Butler lol"}, {"id": "dr2a23z", "body": "The Bulls sure did get the package in that deal. "}, {"id": "dr2a23z", "body": "The Bulls sure did get the package in that deal. "}, {"id": "dr2ie59", "body": "Huh"}, {"id": "dr2ie59", "body": "Huh"}, {"id": "dr2ip5g", "body": "*ahem* dick joke m8"}, {"id": "dr2ip5g", "body": "*ahem* dick joke m8"}, {"id": "dr2iv8p", "body": "I want ibaka baby \ud83d\udca6"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr2805q", "body": "Guess it depends on where the Nets are. I wouldn't trade Paul for the 10th or 11th pick in the draft. I would trade him to the Raptors tho. "}, {"id": "dr2805q", "body": "Guess it depends on where the Nets are. I wouldn't trade Paul for the 10th or 11th pick in the draft. I would trade him to the Raptors tho. "}, {"id": "dr2839n", "body": "lol what?\n\n\nour pick for a 3-4 month rental? Our pick has way more value"}, {"id": "dr2839n", "body": "lol what?\n\n\nour pick for a 3-4 month rental? Our pick has way more value"}, {"id": "dr28cd6", "body": "I like how you defend it. It's not Celtics pick anymore, but I still like this pick and feel some kind of attachment, despite the fact it belongs to our main rival in the East."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr280hm", "body": "He's saying it to wake his fucking team up"}, {"id": "dr280hm", "body": "He's saying it to wake his fucking team up"}, {"id": "dr2ohc3", "body": "What? David Griffin is teamless "}, {"id": "dr2ohc3", "body": "What? David Griffin is teamless "}, {"id": "dr2ybjj", "body": "40+ people agreed with him, too. That's the scariest part."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr281ap", "body": "Lol Russ and Carmelo as the top 2 players on a team is a disaster I'm willing to watch "}, {"id": "dr281ap", "body": "Lol Russ and Carmelo as the top 2 players on a team is a disaster I'm willing to watch "}, {"id": "dr28znf", "body": "The shitpost backseat coaching would reach unseen levels since Spoelstra's first year with LeBron. "}, {"id": "dr28znf", "body": "The shitpost backseat coaching would reach unseen levels since Spoelstra's first year with LeBron. "}, {"id": "dr2mfxr", "body": "I'll kill myself"}, {"id": "dr2mfxr", "body": "I'll kill myself"}, {"id": "dr2qlis", "body": "Holy shit the stakes just increased a lot..."}, {"id": "dr2qlis", "body": "Holy shit the stakes just increased a lot..."}, {"id": "dr3cugb", "body": "Well, not that much"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr287nx", "body": "I don't think you can do that if you're OKC. Westbrook just signed a big extension, and what are you chances of adding another star next to him in the near future?  You gotta go all in and hope for a playoff run with these guys.  PG said it himself.  IF they can get to the conference finals, he can't justify leaving.  "}, {"id": "dr287nx", "body": "I don't think you can do that if you're OKC. Westbrook just signed a big extension, and what are you chances of adding another star next to him in the near future?  You gotta go all in and hope for a playoff run with these guys.  PG said it himself.  IF they can get to the conference finals, he can't justify leaving.  "}, {"id": "dr2lag2", "body": "Pree big IF tho "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr289yl", "body": "who want PG for a 2 month rental?"}, {"id": "dr289yl", "body": "who want PG for a 2 month rental?"}, {"id": "dr28fzx", "body": "The Blazers will take him"}, {"id": "dr28fzx", "body": "The Blazers will take him"}, {"id": "dr28k4m", "body": "Take that CJ guy off their hands "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr28f72", "body": "Everything would get fixed if Melo would put his ego to the side and sacrifised for the better of the team. I dont understand how he doesnt get that people would respect him so much more if he took the 6th man role. We arent stupid, you arent 27 anymore, we wont fault you for taking the 6th man role to help the team. If anything we\u2019ll respect him more and people would probably end the cancer narrative. He really needs to understand this."}, {"id": "dr28f72", "body": "Everything would get fixed if Melo would put his ego to the side and sacrifised for the better of the team. I dont understand how he doesnt get that people would respect him so much more if he took the 6th man role. We arent stupid, you arent 27 anymore, we wont fault you for taking the 6th man role to help the team. If anything we\u2019ll respect him more and people would probably end the cancer narrative. He really needs to understand this."}, {"id": "dr291ks", "body": "LaLa doesn't fuck with bench players lmao. That's the only reason besides his ego that I can think of."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr28ord", "body": "Well if he does commit, we probably aren\u2019t gonna bear about it, so keeping him after the trade deadline would be the ultimate indicator wouldn\u2019t it? "}, {"id": "dr28ord", "body": "Well if he does commit, we probably aren\u2019t gonna bear about it, so keeping him after the trade deadline would be the ultimate indicator wouldn\u2019t it? "}, {"id": "dr29wds", "body": "no"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr28svc", "body": "Do we really need David Griffin to tell us this? lol"}, {"id": "dr28svc", "body": "Do we really need David Griffin to tell us this? lol"}, {"id": "dr2dhqv", "body": "No, but him saying it holds more weight than your average armchair GM on here."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr29tz8", "body": "Would the Cavs trade Love straight up for PG with the hopes of re-signing him if Lebron stays?"}, {"id": "dr29tz8", "body": "Would the Cavs trade Love straight up for PG with the hopes of re-signing him if Lebron stays?"}, {"id": "dr2a9z7", "body": "PG about to play center? "}, {"id": "dr2a9z7", "body": "PG about to play center? "}, {"id": "dr2cmq8", "body": "So many post with this. \"Trade Love for [PG, SG or SF guy]\""}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr29u2d", "body": "Why are we worried about Griffin's opinion of the Thunder?"}, {"id": "dr29u2d", "body": "Why are we worried about Griffin's opinion of the Thunder?"}, {"id": "dr32oce", "body": "Because he\u2019s someone with actual GM experience, as opposed to some random ass redditor or beat writer"}, {"id": "dr32oce", "body": "Because he\u2019s someone with actual GM experience, as opposed to some random ass redditor or beat writer"}, {"id": "dr3653t", "body": "What's his affiliation with the Thunder?"}, {"id": "dr3653t", "body": "What's his affiliation with the Thunder?"}, {"id": "dr36jhp", "body": "Well it\u2019s pretty likely that as fellow GMs they knew each other, and also just the fact that Griffin understands how GMs think, on account of having been one "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr2b6wp", "body": "They should try to trade him for this Victor Oladipo fellow, he looks like he'll be a stud"}, {"id": "dr2b6wp", "body": "They should try to trade him for this Victor Oladipo fellow, he looks like he'll be a stud"}, {"id": "dr2fl1f", "body": "Absolutely not. "}, {"id": "dr2fl1f", "body": "Absolutely not. "}, {"id": "dr2m5qv", "body": "How satisfying is it to watch the Thunder struggle after the way PG left? "}, {"id": "dr2m5qv", "body": "How satisfying is it to watch the Thunder struggle after the way PG left? "}, {"id": "dr2oeod", "body": "It\u2019s incredibly satisfying because PG complained about not having anyone around him in Indy but  now he has Russ and they still are ass. I feel bad for OKC fans though."}, {"id": "dr2oeod", "body": "It\u2019s incredibly satisfying because PG complained about not having anyone around him in Indy but  now he has Russ and they still are ass. I feel bad for OKC fans though."}, {"id": "dr2p5gz", "body": "Yes, PG complained about not having anyone around him in Indy. And yes, the Thunder are struggling. However, I've gotta say, consider the fact that of the Big 3, PG is the only one playing both ends of the floor, he's not the cause of the issues. Not saying you shouldn't be all fuck you to him tho lmao. \n\nI think Melo's story is funnier. Dude is the worst of Big 3, is playing the worst of them, and is losing, even though he had a NTC in his contract and he specifically chose this team. Corny ass motherfucker with his hoodie and midnight workouts. This is exactly why the Knicks staff was laughing at his cringey ass videos.\n\nI agree that it sucks for OKC fans though. They deserve better than this. "}, {"id": "dr2p5gz", "body": "Yes, PG complained about not having anyone around him in Indy. And yes, the Thunder are struggling. However, I've gotta say, consider the fact that of the Big 3, PG is the only one playing both ends of the floor, he's not the cause of the issues. Not saying you shouldn't be all fuck you to him tho lmao. \n\nI think Melo's story is funnier. Dude is the worst of Big 3, is playing the worst of them, and is losing, even though he had a NTC in his contract and he specifically chose this team. Corny ass motherfucker with his hoodie and midnight workouts. This is exactly why the Knicks staff was laughing at his cringey ass videos.\n\nI agree that it sucks for OKC fans though. They deserve better than this. "}, {"id": "dr2ts30", "body": "Then as a Knicks fan how satisfying is it that you're in a rebuilding year and are half a game above OKC and actually in the playoffs right now? "}, {"id": "dr2ts30", "body": "Then as a Knicks fan how satisfying is it that you're in a rebuilding year and are half a game above OKC and actually in the playoffs right now? "}, {"id": "dr32obp", "body": "Depends on how much you like Doncic. "}, {"id": "dr32obp", "body": "Depends on how much you like Doncic. "}, {"id": "dr3bwm6", "body": "I watched him in some euroleague. I was sold, but now I am not. Didn't look explosive enough to be primary ballhandler. And he wouldn't shoot. Maybe some aberration. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr2c401", "body": "PG for Tristan Thompson?"}, {"id": "dr2c401", "body": "PG for Tristan Thompson?"}, {"id": "dr2eh44", "body": "PG for Zaza Pachulia"}, {"id": "dr2eh44", "body": "PG for Zaza Pachulia"}, {"id": "dr2gslt", "body": "Zaza would destroy Currys Ankles "}, {"id": "dr2gslt", "body": "Zaza would destroy Currys Ankles "}, {"id": "dr3dkfv", "body": "and Kawhi's"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr2e168", "body": "Okc should trade Sam Presti."}, {"id": "dr2e168", "body": "Okc should trade Sam Presti."}, {"id": "dr32p6s", "body": "Why the hell would they do that "}, {"id": "dr32p6s", "body": "Why the hell would they do that "}, {"id": "dr37om0", "body": "I don't know... perhaps the horrible signing Ibaka and then trading Harden instead of keeping Harden and having 2-3 championships.\n\nMaybe letting KD go and keeping RW. \n\nMaybe signing Melo and PG and now having 3 of the top 10 usage% players which is causing them major issues and now they will probably have to trade PG within the next year so they lost Oladipo and Sabonis without any serious return."}, {"id": "dr37om0", "body": "I don't know... perhaps the horrible signing Ibaka and then trading Harden instead of keeping Harden and having 2-3 championships.\n\nMaybe letting KD go and keeping RW. \n\nMaybe signing Melo and PG and now having 3 of the top 10 usage% players which is causing them major issues and now they will probably have to trade PG within the next year so they lost Oladipo and Sabonis without any serious return."}, {"id": "dr3bcg6", "body": "Oladipo and Sabonis were not that good with the Thunder. That's not Presti's fault. Ibaka was very good with the Thunder before his decline. And you can't criticize having 3 top 10 usage% players in the league while simultaneously knocking him for not keeping all 3 high usage players on his team. And again, it's not like he was choosing between RW and KD. Presti built a top 3 team in the league, and Durant still left. Sometimes players leave no matter what you do. "}, {"id": "dr3bcg6", "body": "Oladipo and Sabonis were not that good with the Thunder. That's not Presti's fault. Ibaka was very good with the Thunder before his decline. And you can't criticize having 3 top 10 usage% players in the league while simultaneously knocking him for not keeping all 3 high usage players on his team. And again, it's not like he was choosing between RW and KD. Presti built a top 3 team in the league, and Durant still left. Sometimes players leave no matter what you do. "}, {"id": "dr3c79o", "body": "Oh I agree with your last part. I just think that history and hindsight has shown that his decisions have resulted in some bad decisions.\n\nIt's not like he's the Nets GM or something, but at the same point, I fully believe if they had kept Harden instead of Ibaka, they would have already won a Finals. \n\nYou are right about the hypocrisy of my critique on the usage% though. Fair point.\n\nI still think OKC made a good trade to get PG, the problem is that they aren't going to keep him and a 1year rental is a bad decision to lose Sabonis who could really help out the Thunder. Oladipo isn't going to fit in as well with RW, but Sabonis would give you some nice minutes.\n\nThe initial post was a bit tongue in cheek, but I really thought that OKC would have won a couple of Finals by now and I put that onus on Presti and his decisions that have held back the team while players who were formerly on the Thunder have become some of the top players in the league."}, {"id": "dr3c79o", "body": "Oh I agree with your last part. I just think that history and hindsight has shown that his decisions have resulted in some bad decisions.\n\nIt's not like he's the Nets GM or something, but at the same point, I fully believe if they had kept Harden instead of Ibaka, they would have already won a Finals. \n\nYou are right about the hypocrisy of my critique on the usage% though. Fair point.\n\nI still think OKC made a good trade to get PG, the problem is that they aren't going to keep him and a 1year rental is a bad decision to lose Sabonis who could really help out the Thunder. Oladipo isn't going to fit in as well with RW, but Sabonis would give you some nice minutes.\n\nThe initial post was a bit tongue in cheek, but I really thought that OKC would have won a couple of Finals by now and I put that onus on Presti and his decisions that have held back the team while players who were formerly on the Thunder have become some of the top players in the league."}, {"id": "dr3dvwq", "body": "I think the onus starts with Bennett. Once the order came down to stay under the tax, Presti had a very difficult decision to make. Harden was the better overall player (obviously) but Ibaka fit better with their bonafide superstars. And once you\u2019ve got two superstars, financially getting new pieces is difficult while staying under the tax, and drafting isn\u2019t much easier because you\u2019re getting the end of the 1st round. Losing Sabonis sucked since he\u2019s now playing well, but Dipo never really developed the off-ball skill to play with WB. He wasn\u2019t talented or respected enough to get the ball a lot (like KD did) so you\u2019ve got two players who suck off the ball playing together, and the defense gets to play 5 on 4. Prestis not the best, but I think he\u2019s far from their biggest issue. He\u2019s great at drafting, middling to below average at trades, and not good at FA acquisitions. He\u2019s no Pop/Buford, but he\u2019s not what\u2019s been holding them back. In an alternate world where Mark Jackson doesn\u2019t get fired and Draymomd is never allowed to fully blossom, Durant is still in OKC and they\u2019re competing for titles every year "}, {"id": "dr3dvwq", "body": "I think the onus starts with Bennett. Once the order came down to stay under the tax, Presti had a very difficult decision to make. Harden was the better overall player (obviously) but Ibaka fit better with their bonafide superstars. And once you\u2019ve got two superstars, financially getting new pieces is difficult while staying under the tax, and drafting isn\u2019t much easier because you\u2019re getting the end of the 1st round. Losing Sabonis sucked since he\u2019s now playing well, but Dipo never really developed the off-ball skill to play with WB. He wasn\u2019t talented or respected enough to get the ball a lot (like KD did) so you\u2019ve got two players who suck off the ball playing together, and the defense gets to play 5 on 4. Prestis not the best, but I think he\u2019s far from their biggest issue. He\u2019s great at drafting, middling to below average at trades, and not good at FA acquisitions. He\u2019s no Pop/Buford, but he\u2019s not what\u2019s been holding them back. In an alternate world where Mark Jackson doesn\u2019t get fired and Draymomd is never allowed to fully blossom, Durant is still in OKC and they\u2019re competing for titles every year "}, {"id": "dr3e3vg", "body": "Good points all the way around. Thanks for the perspective!"}, {"id": "dr3e3vg", "body": "Good points all the way around. Thanks for the perspective!"}, {"id": "dr3e616", "body": "My god... we just had a reasonable discussion. Are we in the right place?"}, {"id": "dr3e616", "body": "My god... we just had a reasonable discussion. Are we in the right place?"}, {"id": "dr3er1s", "body": "Honestly I almost always have a reasonable discussion. Most of the stuff people disagree about is simply a matter of having a different perspective on a situation. Usually our conclusions differ from having different information. \n\nRecognizing that your opinion is not your identity helps too.\n\nLooking forward to more good discussions in the future!"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr2j3fw", "body": "I would gladly give the Cavs Paul George for Nets pick if we can\u2019t keep him"}, {"id": "dr2j3fw", "body": "I would gladly give the Cavs Paul George for Nets pick if we can\u2019t keep him"}, {"id": "dr2m0v5", "body": "How about a Kentavious Caldwell Pope"}, {"id": "dr2m0v5", "body": "How about a Kentavious Caldwell Pope"}, {"id": "dr2t3k6", "body": "Oh shit...."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr2mqj1", "body": "Thunder games will be even more hilarious to watch than they already are. "}, {"id": "dr2mqj1", "body": "Thunder games will be even more hilarious to watch than they already are. "}, {"id": "dr2s6tr", "body": "It was pretty hilarious watching them stomp the warriors. "}, {"id": "dr2s6tr", "body": "It was pretty hilarious watching them stomp the warriors. "}, {"id": "dr2uifu", "body": "You deserve upvotes. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr2qdej", "body": "\"You guys want PG13? He's not committing to staying with us but uhhhh maybe you guys can get to him in 4 months. I'm sure things will turn out differently with you guys.\""}, {"id": "dr2qdej", "body": "\"You guys want PG13? He's not committing to staying with us but uhhhh maybe you guys can get to him in 4 months. I'm sure things will turn out differently with you guys.\""}, {"id": "dr336c0", "body": "exactly. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ixxd7", "body": "https://streamable.com/ntgxs\n\nGriffin is asked about the Thunder's struggles and says they should be patient, but moving Melo to the bench is something that Billy Donovan should consider. He also mentions that Presti would be looking to move George if the Thunder don't improve and if PG13 hasn't committed to staying long term. Personally, I doubt PG13 is the one that gets traded because he has been the most consistent of the Big 3. They also probably think they have a legit shot at upsetting the Warriors because they blew them out earlier, even though it was just regular season Warriors. A 1-8 match-up in the first round would be fun to see..but then again, the Thunder are playing some real ugly basketball right now so idk"}, {"id": "dr2vx92", "body": "yeah but who would trade assets for half a season rental? "}, {"id": "dr2vx92", "body": "yeah but who would trade assets for half a season rental? "}, {"id": "dr2ydv7", "body": "Someone who wants to get rid of a good player also, who doesn't want to be there anymore.\n\nAka Randle."}, {"id": "dr2ydv7", "body": "Someone who wants to get rid of a good player also, who doesn't want to be there anymore.\n\nAka Randle."}, {"id": "dr2zo5l", "body": "Paul George wants to be a Lakers. Why trade assets for him when you can sign him thru FA? Dont be like us with the Melo signing."}, {"id": "dr2zo5l", "body": "Paul George wants to be a Lakers. Why trade assets for him when you can sign him thru FA? Dont be like us with the Melo signing."}, {"id": "dr33ltd", "body": "It could possibly make sense since there is skepticism if we are willing / can afford to re-sign Randle."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7n5qe3", "body": ""}, {"id": "drz8a9l", "body": "This might be the first time \"the process\" was said and having it unrelated to Embiid or the Sixers"}, {"id": "drz8a9l", "body": "This might be the first time \"the process\" was said and having it unrelated to Embiid or the Sixers"}, {"id": "drz8kxb", "body": "Our process was being in the second round of the playoffs last year lol. I say tank for porter jr this year and blast off lol. Smells like a championship to me."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7n5qe3", "body": ""}, {"id": "drz8awf", "body": "Rodney Hood then proceeded to smell his shoe lmao"}, {"id": "drz8awf", "body": "Rodney Hood then proceeded to smell his shoe lmao"}, {"id": "drz8vsl", "body": "Who wouldn't?"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7n5qe3", "body": ""}, {"id": "drz9ib8", "body": "Wearing Lillards too :DD"}, {"id": "drz9ib8", "body": "Wearing Lillards too :DD"}, {"id": "drzjghx", "body": "Oh no way? I have been wondering what they are. They look kind of huge in that yellow color lol."}, {"id": "drzjghx", "body": "Oh no way? I have been wondering what they are. They look kind of huge in that yellow color lol."}, {"id": "drzjk5p", "body": "Yeah i think it\u2019s a custom colorway. I knew it was Lillards cause you see the \u201cD\u201d logo on the shoe."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7n9oj5", "body": "The Cavs run a very simple offense; Lebron penetrate and kick, Lebron ISO, or Kevin Love post up. This is the system that Lebron is most comfortable in and where his best skills are shown. Why would Lue run anything else?\n\nWell Lue should run something else when this system isn\u2019t working, but that is absolutely out of his control. Lebron dictates what offense is ran when he is on the court. Going against what Bron wants can literally cost Lue his job, yet Lue is constantly blamed when this system doesn\u2019t produce.\n\nLue\u2019s coaching strategies can be seen clearly with The Bench Mob\u2122\ufe0f. They run plays every time down and have successfully been one of the best benches in the league. This is with a \u201cold man\u201d Wade, a \u201cwashed up\u201d Jeff Green,  and a 37 year old Korver. Lue is actually a very competent coach when given actual control of a team.\n\nThe last thing I\u2019ll mention is Lebron\u2019s insane playing time recently. Why is he playing so many minutes? 37.4 mpg, Is Lue out of his mind?!\n\nNo. Lebron decided when he enters and exits the game. With one of the best benches in the league, he should be getting a ton of rest, but for whatever reason he has, he plays 37.4 mpg.\n\nBasically Lue gets shitted on for things that are completely out of his control."}, {"id": "ds034b4", "body": "Except their offense is mostly fine (3rd in offensive rating without IT), it's their defense that's atrocious. "}, {"id": "ds034b4", "body": "Except their offense is mostly fine (3rd in offensive rating without IT), it's their defense that's atrocious. "}, {"id": "ds039jf", "body": "from someone who doesn\u2019t really watch the cavs that often, is it just the defensive scheme? or players really just not giving a shit? "}, {"id": "ds039jf", "body": "from someone who doesn\u2019t really watch the cavs that often, is it just the defensive scheme? or players really just not giving a shit? "}, {"id": "ds03ei3", "body": "The Players care on defense against big opponents. We tend to stop trying against bad teams. I mean, we took Golden State to 99 points."}, {"id": "ds03ei3", "body": "The Players care on defense against big opponents. We tend to stop trying against bad teams. I mean, we took Golden State to 99 points."}, {"id": "ds03gwo", "body": "That's not saying much. Look at the Warriors final scores the past 3 weeks without curry. 99 is about average what they scored. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7n9oj5", "body": "The Cavs run a very simple offense; Lebron penetrate and kick, Lebron ISO, or Kevin Love post up. This is the system that Lebron is most comfortable in and where his best skills are shown. Why would Lue run anything else?\n\nWell Lue should run something else when this system isn\u2019t working, but that is absolutely out of his control. Lebron dictates what offense is ran when he is on the court. Going against what Bron wants can literally cost Lue his job, yet Lue is constantly blamed when this system doesn\u2019t produce.\n\nLue\u2019s coaching strategies can be seen clearly with The Bench Mob\u2122\ufe0f. They run plays every time down and have successfully been one of the best benches in the league. This is with a \u201cold man\u201d Wade, a \u201cwashed up\u201d Jeff Green,  and a 37 year old Korver. Lue is actually a very competent coach when given actual control of a team.\n\nThe last thing I\u2019ll mention is Lebron\u2019s insane playing time recently. Why is he playing so many minutes? 37.4 mpg, Is Lue out of his mind?!\n\nNo. Lebron decided when he enters and exits the game. With one of the best benches in the league, he should be getting a ton of rest, but for whatever reason he has, he plays 37.4 mpg.\n\nBasically Lue gets shitted on for things that are completely out of his control."}, {"id": "ds03hno", "body": "Lue has always been very solid with his rotations, figuring out what works, attacking mismatches hard, throwing out some creative stuff ATO. \n\nI never heard he was a bad coach, I thought most ppl rated him accurately as good but not great."}, {"id": "ds03hno", "body": "Lue has always been very solid with his rotations, figuring out what works, attacking mismatches hard, throwing out some creative stuff ATO. \n\nI never heard he was a bad coach, I thought most ppl rated him accurately as good but not great."}, {"id": "ds03n8a", "body": "Interesting. Maybe I am overstating people\u2019s distaste for him, but I don\u2019t think so. I thought the consensus was that he\u2019s a bad coach."}, {"id": "ds03n8a", "body": "Interesting. Maybe I am overstating people\u2019s distaste for him, but I don\u2019t think so. I thought the consensus was that he\u2019s a bad coach."}, {"id": "ds03rou", "body": "Yeah, I might be biased from not interacting with casual fans enough. I guess there is a lot of the, \"Lebron is the real coach\", kinda talk."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7n9oj5", "body": "The Cavs run a very simple offense; Lebron penetrate and kick, Lebron ISO, or Kevin Love post up. This is the system that Lebron is most comfortable in and where his best skills are shown. Why would Lue run anything else?\n\nWell Lue should run something else when this system isn\u2019t working, but that is absolutely out of his control. Lebron dictates what offense is ran when he is on the court. Going against what Bron wants can literally cost Lue his job, yet Lue is constantly blamed when this system doesn\u2019t produce.\n\nLue\u2019s coaching strategies can be seen clearly with The Bench Mob\u2122\ufe0f. They run plays every time down and have successfully been one of the best benches in the league. This is with a \u201cold man\u201d Wade, a \u201cwashed up\u201d Jeff Green,  and a 37 year old Korver. Lue is actually a very competent coach when given actual control of a team.\n\nThe last thing I\u2019ll mention is Lebron\u2019s insane playing time recently. Why is he playing so many minutes? 37.4 mpg, Is Lue out of his mind?!\n\nNo. Lebron decided when he enters and exits the game. With one of the best benches in the league, he should be getting a ton of rest, but for whatever reason he has, he plays 37.4 mpg.\n\nBasically Lue gets shitted on for things that are completely out of his control."}, {"id": "ds03lks", "body": "I agree, that roster is the oldest in the league by far. Obviously they are gonna coast a lot on defense through the regular season.\n\n\nPeople also place the blame on LeBron's coaches way too much. I remember his first year on the Heat people were screaming how terrible Spoelstra was and how he needed to be fired immediately. Now he's considered one of the best coaches in the league. "}, {"id": "ds03lks", "body": "I agree, that roster is the oldest in the league by far. Obviously they are gonna coast a lot on defense through the regular season.\n\n\nPeople also place the blame on LeBron's coaches way too much. I remember his first year on the Heat people were screaming how terrible Spoelstra was and how he needed to be fired immediately. Now he's considered one of the best coaches in the league. "}, {"id": "ds03p7y", "body": "To be fair, I thought Spoelstra was trash before Lebron even came to Miami. He has improved and is definitely an above average coach now though."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7n9oj5", "body": "The Cavs run a very simple offense; Lebron penetrate and kick, Lebron ISO, or Kevin Love post up. This is the system that Lebron is most comfortable in and where his best skills are shown. Why would Lue run anything else?\n\nWell Lue should run something else when this system isn\u2019t working, but that is absolutely out of his control. Lebron dictates what offense is ran when he is on the court. Going against what Bron wants can literally cost Lue his job, yet Lue is constantly blamed when this system doesn\u2019t produce.\n\nLue\u2019s coaching strategies can be seen clearly with The Bench Mob\u2122\ufe0f. They run plays every time down and have successfully been one of the best benches in the league. This is with a \u201cold man\u201d Wade, a \u201cwashed up\u201d Jeff Green,  and a 37 year old Korver. Lue is actually a very competent coach when given actual control of a team.\n\nThe last thing I\u2019ll mention is Lebron\u2019s insane playing time recently. Why is he playing so many minutes? 37.4 mpg, Is Lue out of his mind?!\n\nNo. Lebron decided when he enters and exits the game. With one of the best benches in the league, he should be getting a ton of rest, but for whatever reason he has, he plays 37.4 mpg.\n\nBasically Lue gets shitted on for things that are completely out of his control."}, {"id": "ds03lw6", "body": "It's just the LeBron effect. Happened to Mike Brown, happened to Spoelstra. Both are very underrated coaches as a result. On the other hand Lebron's need to dictate a team is exactly why I hope he doesn't come to the Spurs."}, {"id": "ds03lw6", "body": "It's just the LeBron effect. Happened to Mike Brown, happened to Spoelstra. Both are very underrated coaches as a result. On the other hand Lebron's need to dictate a team is exactly why I hope he doesn't come to the Spurs."}, {"id": "ds03w15", "body": "Mike Brown was actually bad. He was a good defensive coach, awful offensive coach. When he was coaching Kyrie\u2019s Cavs, that team played one of the worst offense I\u2019ve ever seen. Granted, the team around Kyrie was pretty damn bad as well, but Brown just isn\u2019t all that competent offensive coach. "}, {"id": "ds03w15", "body": "Mike Brown was actually bad. He was a good defensive coach, awful offensive coach. When he was coaching Kyrie\u2019s Cavs, that team played one of the worst offense I\u2019ve ever seen. Granted, the team around Kyrie was pretty damn bad as well, but Brown just isn\u2019t all that competent offensive coach. "}, {"id": "ds04e3c", "body": "Mike Brown is like D'Antoni--he needs the right team to be able to succeed. Trying to implement a pass-first offense on a team that had no good players other than an iso heavy Kyrie made Brown look bad, but the same offense ended up being utilized very well by the warriors in the playoffs."}, {"id": "ds04e3c", "body": "Mike Brown is like D'Antoni--he needs the right team to be able to succeed. Trying to implement a pass-first offense on a team that had no good players other than an iso heavy Kyrie made Brown look bad, but the same offense ended up being utilized very well by the warriors in the playoffs."}, {"id": "ds0dy0e", "body": "You can\u2019t really compare the Warriors to the Kyrie\u2019s Cavs. I mean the Cavs had no one else other than Kyrie who was capable of playing any decent offense. Meanwhile the Warriors are probably the best offensive teams ever. Any coach would look good with the Warriors. There\u2019s just so much talent. The Cavs would have perhaps only succeeded at some level with a Popovich kind of a coach. "}, {"id": "ds0dy0e", "body": "You can\u2019t really compare the Warriors to the Kyrie\u2019s Cavs. I mean the Cavs had no one else other than Kyrie who was capable of playing any decent offense. Meanwhile the Warriors are probably the best offensive teams ever. Any coach would look good with the Warriors. There\u2019s just so much talent. The Cavs would have perhaps only succeeded at some level with a Popovich kind of a coach. "}, {"id": "ds0ixay", "body": "Except Mark Jackson? You could argue that Kerr unlocked Steph and Dray's potential by making their offense very non-traditional. Who in the history of the league has scored 30 ppg while playing so much off the ball? The warriors have a much more complex scheme than the Cavs or Rockets offensively."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7n9oj5", "body": "The Cavs run a very simple offense; Lebron penetrate and kick, Lebron ISO, or Kevin Love post up. This is the system that Lebron is most comfortable in and where his best skills are shown. Why would Lue run anything else?\n\nWell Lue should run something else when this system isn\u2019t working, but that is absolutely out of his control. Lebron dictates what offense is ran when he is on the court. Going against what Bron wants can literally cost Lue his job, yet Lue is constantly blamed when this system doesn\u2019t produce.\n\nLue\u2019s coaching strategies can be seen clearly with The Bench Mob\u2122\ufe0f. They run plays every time down and have successfully been one of the best benches in the league. This is with a \u201cold man\u201d Wade, a \u201cwashed up\u201d Jeff Green,  and a 37 year old Korver. Lue is actually a very competent coach when given actual control of a team.\n\nThe last thing I\u2019ll mention is Lebron\u2019s insane playing time recently. Why is he playing so many minutes? 37.4 mpg, Is Lue out of his mind?!\n\nNo. Lebron decided when he enters and exits the game. With one of the best benches in the league, he should be getting a ton of rest, but for whatever reason he has, he plays 37.4 mpg.\n\nBasically Lue gets shitted on for things that are completely out of his control."}, {"id": "ds03qlv", "body": "If he was white he would be looked at on this sub as one of the best coaches in the NBA. It\u2019s always a shame to see the bad reputation black coaches get on here. "}, {"id": "ds03qlv", "body": "If he was white he would be looked at on this sub as one of the best coaches in the NBA. It\u2019s always a shame to see the bad reputation black coaches get on here. "}, {"id": "ds03s1j", "body": "Ehh, I won\u2019t say all that. Plenty of white coaches get trashed..."}, {"id": "ds03s1j", "body": "Ehh, I won\u2019t say all that. Plenty of white coaches get trashed..."}, {"id": "ds067cs", "body": "ALL black coaches do though. That\u2019s my point. And no white coaches with rings get trashed "}, {"id": "ds067cs", "body": "ALL black coaches do though. That\u2019s my point. And no white coaches with rings get trashed "}, {"id": "ds06c0x", "body": "Spoelstra got trashed for four years in Miami. Doc was praised in Boston."}, {"id": "ds06c0x", "body": "Spoelstra got trashed for four years in Miami. Doc was praised in Boston."}, {"id": "ds0dnob", "body": "Doc was HEAVILY criticized in Boston. People complained that he underachieved all the time "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7n9oj5", "body": "The Cavs run a very simple offense; Lebron penetrate and kick, Lebron ISO, or Kevin Love post up. This is the system that Lebron is most comfortable in and where his best skills are shown. Why would Lue run anything else?\n\nWell Lue should run something else when this system isn\u2019t working, but that is absolutely out of his control. Lebron dictates what offense is ran when he is on the court. Going against what Bron wants can literally cost Lue his job, yet Lue is constantly blamed when this system doesn\u2019t produce.\n\nLue\u2019s coaching strategies can be seen clearly with The Bench Mob\u2122\ufe0f. They run plays every time down and have successfully been one of the best benches in the league. This is with a \u201cold man\u201d Wade, a \u201cwashed up\u201d Jeff Green,  and a 37 year old Korver. Lue is actually a very competent coach when given actual control of a team.\n\nThe last thing I\u2019ll mention is Lebron\u2019s insane playing time recently. Why is he playing so many minutes? 37.4 mpg, Is Lue out of his mind?!\n\nNo. Lebron decided when he enters and exits the game. With one of the best benches in the league, he should be getting a ton of rest, but for whatever reason he has, he plays 37.4 mpg.\n\nBasically Lue gets shitted on for things that are completely out of his control."}, {"id": "ds03r8e", "body": "Lol so in other words, it\u2019s Bron\u2019s team and he is a pushover to do what Bron wants? Which is the exact criticism of him "}, {"id": "ds03r8e", "body": "Lol so in other words, it\u2019s Bron\u2019s team and he is a pushover to do what Bron wants? Which is the exact criticism of him "}, {"id": "ds04bye", "body": "Yeah but that\u2019s not a fair criticism imo. If only all-time great coaches can get a player to listen, then the blame probably falls on the player."}, {"id": "ds04bye", "body": "Yeah but that\u2019s not a fair criticism imo. If only all-time great coaches can get a player to listen, then the blame probably falls on the player."}, {"id": "ds06v0l", "body": "Well it\u2019s not really been a narrative that he is outright bad, more so that he is meaningless and just a face while Bron runs the team. You admitted yourself that there is truth behind it.\n\nYour logic doesn\u2019t make sense to me, plenty of coaches can lead a team even with a star player. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7n9oj5", "body": "The Cavs run a very simple offense; Lebron penetrate and kick, Lebron ISO, or Kevin Love post up. This is the system that Lebron is most comfortable in and where his best skills are shown. Why would Lue run anything else?\n\nWell Lue should run something else when this system isn\u2019t working, but that is absolutely out of his control. Lebron dictates what offense is ran when he is on the court. Going against what Bron wants can literally cost Lue his job, yet Lue is constantly blamed when this system doesn\u2019t produce.\n\nLue\u2019s coaching strategies can be seen clearly with The Bench Mob\u2122\ufe0f. They run plays every time down and have successfully been one of the best benches in the league. This is with a \u201cold man\u201d Wade, a \u201cwashed up\u201d Jeff Green,  and a 37 year old Korver. Lue is actually a very competent coach when given actual control of a team.\n\nThe last thing I\u2019ll mention is Lebron\u2019s insane playing time recently. Why is he playing so many minutes? 37.4 mpg, Is Lue out of his mind?!\n\nNo. Lebron decided when he enters and exits the game. With one of the best benches in the league, he should be getting a ton of rest, but for whatever reason he has, he plays 37.4 mpg.\n\nBasically Lue gets shitted on for things that are completely out of his control."}, {"id": "ds04ft0", "body": "Lue is not a good defensive coach"}, {"id": "ds04ft0", "body": "Lue is not a good defensive coach"}, {"id": "ds04l57", "body": "Is it him or his personnel? His players are pretty below average defenders"}, {"id": "ds04l57", "body": "Is it him or his personnel? His players are pretty below average defenders"}, {"id": "ds0lc1u", "body": "Jae, JR, LeBron, &amp; TT are all above average defenders. Enough so that they shouldn't be consistently in the bottom third of the league defensively"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7kqeq2", "body": "[removed]"}, {"id": "drgd8e5", "body": "Never ever have*. Fuck. I tried. "}, {"id": "drgd8e5", "body": "Never ever have*. Fuck. I tried. "}, {"id": "drgdab9", "body": "Did you tho?"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7kqeq2", "body": "[removed]"}, {"id": "drgdabb", "body": "anyone have a full video of this interview?"}, {"id": "drgdabb", "body": "anyone have a full video of this interview?"}, {"id": "drgdw8i", "body": "Nah but he said fuck in it lol"}, {"id": "drgdw8i", "body": "Nah but he said fuck in it lol"}, {"id": "drge73h", "body": "it was more like \"what the ff-\" he stopped there i think"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7kqeq2", "body": "[removed]"}, {"id": "drgdo29", "body": "Haha, I love it. People always talk about Kobe's killer work ethic and no nonsense approach to things, but he has a great personality as well."}, {"id": "drgdo29", "body": "Haha, I love it. People always talk about Kobe's killer work ethic and no nonsense approach to things, but he has a great personality as well."}, {"id": "drgdx3g", "body": "I absolutely love listening to him. The way he goes on and talks about certain things is so interesting to hear. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7jwyou", "body": "IMO, they need a serviceable center, because right now, I don't think Klove at the 5 will cut it vs the warriors. I definitely don't think they need another shooting wing, no matter how good they are. Itll just give them more of what they already have. I'm not saying paul George is JUST a shooting wing, but next to Lebron, thats what he'll have to be."}, {"id": "dr9t4vu", "body": "Guard Durant "}, {"id": "dr9t4vu", "body": "Guard Durant "}, {"id": "dr9tdhl", "body": "KLove, Crowder, and Lebron could do that just fine, IMO. But to be fair, you dont really guard Durant. Ya just kinda try to keep him under 40 ppg."}, {"id": "dr9tdhl", "body": "KLove, Crowder, and Lebron could do that just fine, IMO. But to be fair, you dont really guard Durant. Ya just kinda try to keep him under 40 ppg."}, {"id": "dr9thg2", "body": "KLove lmao"}, {"id": "dr9thg2", "body": "KLove lmao"}, {"id": "dr9u1jb", "body": "I want whatever that dude is on\n"}, {"id": "dr9u1jb", "body": "I want whatever that dude is on\n"}, {"id": "dra29r3", "body": "Rotten mushrooms. Dude no"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7jwyou", "body": "IMO, they need a serviceable center, because right now, I don't think Klove at the 5 will cut it vs the warriors. I definitely don't think they need another shooting wing, no matter how good they are. Itll just give them more of what they already have. I'm not saying paul George is JUST a shooting wing, but next to Lebron, thats what he'll have to be."}, {"id": "dr9t54y", "body": "Yeah they really need a rim protector. The Lakers are destroying them inside. Love is too small and tt is too. Need a rebounder too.\n\nStill tho, if the Cavs had the option of getting pg or Jordan / gasol you pick pg Everytime. Always add more talent and figure out later."}, {"id": "dr9t54y", "body": "Yeah they really need a rim protector. The Lakers are destroying them inside. Love is too small and tt is too. Need a rebounder too.\n\nStill tho, if the Cavs had the option of getting pg or Jordan / gasol you pick pg Everytime. Always add more talent and figure out later."}, {"id": "dr9tdo9", "body": "The goal for the Cavs isn't to beat the Lakers. Their goal is to win against the Warriors. They don't need a rim protector for that. They need a Durant stopper so LeBron can run the offense without worrying about the defense."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7jwyou", "body": "IMO, they need a serviceable center, because right now, I don't think Klove at the 5 will cut it vs the warriors. I definitely don't think they need another shooting wing, no matter how good they are. Itll just give them more of what they already have. I'm not saying paul George is JUST a shooting wing, but next to Lebron, thats what he'll have to be."}, {"id": "dr9t56x", "body": "I\u2019d say PG and Gasol(at least for the Grizz) aren\u2019t on the block. DJ on the other hand. "}, {"id": "dr9t56x", "body": "I\u2019d say PG and Gasol(at least for the Grizz) aren\u2019t on the block. DJ on the other hand. "}, {"id": "dr9timb", "body": "Gasol is for sure going to be on the block. Same with PG. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7jwyou", "body": "IMO, they need a serviceable center, because right now, I don't think Klove at the 5 will cut it vs the warriors. I definitely don't think they need another shooting wing, no matter how good they are. Itll just give them more of what they already have. I'm not saying paul George is JUST a shooting wing, but next to Lebron, thats what he'll have to be."}, {"id": "dr9t57a", "body": "\u201cJust a shooting wing\u201d "}, {"id": "dr9t57a", "body": "\u201cJust a shooting wing\u201d "}, {"id": "dr9t9ox", "body": "Did you not read the whole post? PG13 isnt just a shooting wing. But next to lebron, thatll be his role. There isnt enough ball to go around for lebron, IT, AND PG13. IT is the point guard, and lebron is fucking lebron. It makes sense that PG13 would get the least usage out of the 3 of them if they were all together."}, {"id": "dr9t9ox", "body": "Did you not read the whole post? PG13 isnt just a shooting wing. But next to lebron, thatll be his role. There isnt enough ball to go around for lebron, IT, AND PG13. IT is the point guard, and lebron is fucking lebron. It makes sense that PG13 would get the least usage out of the 3 of them if they were all together."}, {"id": "dr9tadh", "body": "So his defense would disappear next to Lebron?"}, {"id": "dr9tadh", "body": "So his defense would disappear next to Lebron?"}, {"id": "dr9tgg9", "body": "DJ and Gasol would both be better for the cavs defense than PG13."}, {"id": "dr9tgg9", "body": "DJ and Gasol would both be better for the cavs defense than PG13."}, {"id": "dr9tjzf", "body": "Alright, then say that. Dont say PG would only be a shooter next to Bron"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7jwyou", "body": "IMO, they need a serviceable center, because right now, I don't think Klove at the 5 will cut it vs the warriors. I definitely don't think they need another shooting wing, no matter how good they are. Itll just give them more of what they already have. I'm not saying paul George is JUST a shooting wing, but next to Lebron, thats what he'll have to be."}, {"id": "dr9t5i3", "body": "Because a two way wing helps them more "}, {"id": "dr9t5i3", "body": "Because a two way wing helps them more "}, {"id": "dr9tkc0", "body": "Plus PG has great size. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7jwyou", "body": "IMO, they need a serviceable center, because right now, I don't think Klove at the 5 will cut it vs the warriors. I definitely don't think they need another shooting wing, no matter how good they are. Itll just give them more of what they already have. I'm not saying paul George is JUST a shooting wing, but next to Lebron, thats what he'll have to be."}, {"id": "dr9t62f", "body": "They can make it through the east with TT and Love. George would be beneficial against GS"}, {"id": "dr9t62f", "body": "They can make it through the east with TT and Love. George would be beneficial against GS"}, {"id": "dr9tm8z", "body": "Was thinking the same thing. It would help their defense as well once IT is back in the lineup being a constant liability. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7jwyou", "body": "IMO, they need a serviceable center, because right now, I don't think Klove at the 5 will cut it vs the warriors. I definitely don't think they need another shooting wing, no matter how good they are. Itll just give them more of what they already have. I'm not saying paul George is JUST a shooting wing, but next to Lebron, thats what he'll have to be."}, {"id": "dr9t6tr", "body": "If we get him we could play it/jr/crowder/George/lebron as a small ball counter "}, {"id": "dr9t6tr", "body": "If we get him we could play it/jr/crowder/George/lebron as a small ball counter "}, {"id": "dr9tnkq", "body": "No. Small ball will always consist of love plus they\u2019d run green in their before crowder. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7jwyou", "body": "IMO, they need a serviceable center, because right now, I don't think Klove at the 5 will cut it vs the warriors. I definitely don't think they need another shooting wing, no matter how good they are. Itll just give them more of what they already have. I'm not saying paul George is JUST a shooting wing, but next to Lebron, thats what he'll have to be."}, {"id": "dr9t88q", "body": "Because you need perimeter defense , plus shooting, also he's a better player than those two \n\nand then DJ for some reason has this misconception of being a good fit vs the warriors, the reason Steph/klay would go off on them was because of DJ.. all those pnrs, DJ would never step up and give those two wide open shots \n\nAnd Marc, he hasn't looked good this season at all "}, {"id": "dr9t88q", "body": "Because you need perimeter defense , plus shooting, also he's a better player than those two \n\nand then DJ for some reason has this misconception of being a good fit vs the warriors, the reason Steph/klay would go off on them was because of DJ.. all those pnrs, DJ would never step up and give those two wide open shots \n\nAnd Marc, he hasn't looked good this season at all "}, {"id": "dr9tvau", "body": "He\u2019d be great with LBJ. He\u2019d be a third or fourth option on offense and he can score from anywhere and is an elite defender. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7jwyou", "body": "IMO, they need a serviceable center, because right now, I don't think Klove at the 5 will cut it vs the warriors. I definitely don't think they need another shooting wing, no matter how good they are. Itll just give them more of what they already have. I'm not saying paul George is JUST a shooting wing, but next to Lebron, thats what he'll have to be."}, {"id": "dr9t9db", "body": "LeBron at the 5 is what you want against the Warriors. Paul George gives them great defense on the wing, spaces the floor for LeBron, and also lets LeBron be more of a free safety instead of having to guard KD all game. Gasol and DJ could get played off the floor, DJ could walk (plus I wouldn't want to pay his next contract anyway), Gasol's contract could be a big issue going forward."}, {"id": "dr9t9db", "body": "LeBron at the 5 is what you want against the Warriors. Paul George gives them great defense on the wing, spaces the floor for LeBron, and also lets LeBron be more of a free safety instead of having to guard KD all game. Gasol and DJ could get played off the floor, DJ could walk (plus I wouldn't want to pay his next contract anyway), Gasol's contract could be a big issue going forward."}, {"id": "dr9wm8y", "body": "All great points.  \n\nI also think Gasol might be a bit of a fit issue.  He\u2019s a great player, but he would be minimizing himself and his game a little bit in Cleveland, just like Love has.  And he might be very unhappy about having to do that.  "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7mko89", "body": "Which would make you the most uncomfortable? Half-court shot? Something that takes longer like a sack race? A drills court?"}, {"id": "druo7ft", "body": "I\u2019d turn in to Klay Thompson "}, {"id": "druo7ft", "body": "I\u2019d turn in to Klay Thompson "}, {"id": "druo9d7", "body": "HAHA BECAUSE KLAY SMOKES WEED GET IT HAHA 420 XD"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7mko89", "body": "Which would make you the most uncomfortable? Half-court shot? Something that takes longer like a sack race? A drills court?"}, {"id": "druo9du", "body": "Was this question inspired by the Lakers event participants tonight "}, {"id": "druo9du", "body": "Was this question inspired by the Lakers event participants tonight "}, {"id": "druoc12", "body": "absolutely lol"}, {"id": "druoc12", "body": "absolutely lol"}, {"id": "drupilp", "body": "The dude named phone, wallet, keys, then blanked for 5 secs and repeated wallet and keys and then after time ran out blurted out condoms. Shit had me weak"}, {"id": "drupilp", "body": "The dude named phone, wallet, keys, then blanked for 5 secs and repeated wallet and keys and then after time ran out blurted out condoms. Shit had me weak"}, {"id": "druq45c", "body": "yikes. thats on your personal blunder reel for the rest of your life. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7mko89", "body": "Which would make you the most uncomfortable? Half-court shot? Something that takes longer like a sack race? A drills court?"}, {"id": "druoa0b", "body": "I'd decline to participate lest I make an ass out of myself and have my face plastered all over r/NBA and maybe Twitter. "}, {"id": "druoa0b", "body": "I'd decline to participate lest I make an ass out of myself and have my face plastered all over r/NBA and maybe Twitter. "}, {"id": "druodl0", "body": "but you could be a hero like this guy http://www.phillyvoice.com/local-teen-mike-shelly-beat-odds-well-his-sandwich-winning-half-court-shot-sixers-game/"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7mko89", "body": "Which would make you the most uncomfortable? Half-court shot? Something that takes longer like a sack race? A drills court?"}, {"id": "druor62", "body": "Halftime at lakers tonight the guy selected had 10 seconds to name as many things as possible that people carrying their pockets.\n\n\nI would absolutely panic if I was being walked into that challenge.\n\nGive me the half court shot  in that situation.\n\n"}, {"id": "druor62", "body": "Halftime at lakers tonight the guy selected had 10 seconds to name as many things as possible that people carrying their pockets.\n\n\nI would absolutely panic if I was being walked into that challenge.\n\nGive me the half court shot  in that situation.\n\n"}, {"id": "druoxh8", "body": "That\u2019s when you trip up and end up saying \u201cbasketball\u201d or take the entire time to say 1 thing."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7hekih", "body": ""}, {"id": "dqqdky3", "body": "How do we already have an update on Anderson and still nothing on AD?"}, {"id": "dqqdky3", "body": "How do we already have an update on Anderson and still nothing on AD?"}, {"id": "dqqdynd", "body": "AD is gonna go full Manu and remove a testicle but wants to keep it on the dl"}, {"id": "dqqdynd", "body": "AD is gonna go full Manu and remove a testicle but wants to keep it on the dl"}, {"id": "dqqghiz", "body": "Well now that's in my search history"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7hekih", "body": ""}, {"id": "dqqe2fe", "body": "MCL strain? That doesn't sound too bad, can someone say if it's worse than an MCL sprain?"}, {"id": "dqqe2fe", "body": "MCL strain? That doesn't sound too bad, can someone say if it's worse than an MCL sprain?"}, {"id": "dqqhbni", "body": "same thing most likely, strain is a misnomer in this case"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7hekih", "body": ""}, {"id": "dqqeg07", "body": "4 to 6 weeks I think"}, {"id": "dqqeg07", "body": "4 to 6 weeks I think"}, {"id": "dqqehpc", "body": "yup, same injury blake griffin got"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7jrvvw", "body": ""}, {"id": "dr8n2n0", "body": "&gt;Around the time Pitino arrived, a group of Louisville businessmen and politicians were making a concerted effort to land an NBA team. In part, this was a play for economic development. Louisville could see how pro football and hockey helped revitalize Nashville. But it also came just as much from a desire for respect. The city burghers even had a nonbinding agreement with the Charlotte Hornets, which wanted to relocate. The plan centered around building a downtown arena that the Hornets and the Cardinals would share.\n\n&gt;Jurich and Pitino had other ideas. They had no intention of sharing an arena with an NBA team\u2014they didn\u2019t even want to share the city with an NBA team. Louisville was theirs. David Stern, who was then commissioner of the NBA, recalls thinking, \u201cIf Rick Pitino doesn\u2019t want us there, why are we going there?\u201d The Hornets went to New Orleans instead."}, {"id": "dr8n2n0", "body": "&gt;Around the time Pitino arrived, a group of Louisville businessmen and politicians were making a concerted effort to land an NBA team. In part, this was a play for economic development. Louisville could see how pro football and hockey helped revitalize Nashville. But it also came just as much from a desire for respect. The city burghers even had a nonbinding agreement with the Charlotte Hornets, which wanted to relocate. The plan centered around building a downtown arena that the Hornets and the Cardinals would share.\n\n&gt;Jurich and Pitino had other ideas. They had no intention of sharing an arena with an NBA team\u2014they didn\u2019t even want to share the city with an NBA team. Louisville was theirs. David Stern, who was then commissioner of the NBA, recalls thinking, \u201cIf Rick Pitino doesn\u2019t want us there, why are we going there?\u201d The Hornets went to New Orleans instead."}, {"id": "dr99e5q", "body": "I live in a city that could have potentially had an NBA team with AD, Boogie and Rondo, and that city is in Kentucky.\n\nI'm not much of a Pitino fan. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7jrvvw", "body": ""}, {"id": "dr8nnoq", "body": "The NCAA is kidding itself by publicly pretending its major sports programs are about student athletes. It's such a huge business. "}, {"id": "dr8nnoq", "body": "The NCAA is kidding itself by publicly pretending its major sports programs are about student athletes. It's such a huge business. "}, {"id": "dr91fsc", "body": "where the people in charge make billions and the talent make ZILCH and can't even move around #sad"}, {"id": "dr91fsc", "body": "where the people in charge make billions and the talent make ZILCH and can't even move around #sad"}, {"id": "dr961ci", "body": "But, but, free education and housing and a dining hall that's only open when you have practice... "}, {"id": "dr961ci", "body": "But, but, free education and housing and a dining hall that's only open when you have practice... "}, {"id": "dr9893x", "body": "I love how the NCAA can be leaps and bounds better for the players without actually directly paying them but still doesn't."}, {"id": "dr9893x", "body": "I love how the NCAA can be leaps and bounds better for the players without actually directly paying them but still doesn't."}, {"id": "dr98b57", "body": "They build character. That's far more valuable than any monetary sum. "}, {"id": "dr98b57", "body": "They build character. That's far more valuable than any monetary sum. "}, {"id": "dr9eskg", "body": "Not now, Calvin's Dad."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7jrvvw", "body": ""}, {"id": "dr8nxh0", "body": "The city of Louisville makes so much damn sense for hosting an NBA team. The amount of love and size the UK and Louisville fanbases have is incredible. \n\nBut then again, I guess it could be viewed as... \"the state of Alabama LOVES football, why don't they have an NFL franchise?\"\n\n*edit - Louisville is usually the #1 TV market for men's college bball. And now the program is on life support. Hmm.."}, {"id": "dr8nxh0", "body": "The city of Louisville makes so much damn sense for hosting an NBA team. The amount of love and size the UK and Louisville fanbases have is incredible. \n\nBut then again, I guess it could be viewed as... \"the state of Alabama LOVES football, why don't they have an NFL franchise?\"\n\n*edit - Louisville is usually the #1 TV market for men's college bball. And now the program is on life support. Hmm.."}, {"id": "dr8odkr", "body": "Honestly don't get that one either. Why can't an NFL team work there? It's not like college football happens on Sundays. "}, {"id": "dr8odkr", "body": "Honestly don't get that one either. Why can't an NFL team work there? It's not like college football happens on Sundays. "}, {"id": "dr8pld7", "body": "people in alabama have a real disdain for NFL football, whereas I think kentuckians would have no real issues with getting into the NBA"}, {"id": "dr8pld7", "body": "people in alabama have a real disdain for NFL football, whereas I think kentuckians would have no real issues with getting into the NBA"}, {"id": "dr8q12v", "body": "Why? That doesn't make sense"}, {"id": "dr8q12v", "body": "Why? That doesn't make sense"}, {"id": "dr8q7zr", "body": "in Alabama football tradition is more than a century old, with the culture in auburn and tuscaloosa being based almost entirely around football. it's genuinely almost religious. so I think the NFL is viewed dismissively because it doesn't have that same level of culture\n\n"}, {"id": "dr8q7zr", "body": "in Alabama football tradition is more than a century old, with the culture in auburn and tuscaloosa being based almost entirely around football. it's genuinely almost religious. so I think the NFL is viewed dismissively because it doesn't have that same level of culture\n\n"}, {"id": "dr8s60t", "body": "Maybe I just don't get it, but if you're so in love with football, then why not support football at its highest level? I mean I don't watch CFB, but even I can tell you the level of play is much higher in the NFL "}, {"id": "dr8s60t", "body": "Maybe I just don't get it, but if you're so in love with football, then why not support football at its highest level? I mean I don't watch CFB, but even I can tell you the level of play is much higher in the NFL "}, {"id": "dr8suwg", "body": "I think most CFB fans would consider it to be the superior product even though they play at the NFL level is technically higher. NFL defenses are so dominant that you don't get a lot of the exciting plays you get in CFB, plus the commercialization is much worse and the traditions aren't as strong"}, {"id": "dr8suwg", "body": "I think most CFB fans would consider it to be the superior product even though they play at the NFL level is technically higher. NFL defenses are so dominant that you don't get a lot of the exciting plays you get in CFB, plus the commercialization is much worse and the traditions aren't as strong"}, {"id": "dr8uw33", "body": "This this this^ CFB is more entertaining"}, {"id": "dr8uw33", "body": "This this this^ CFB is more entertaining"}, {"id": "dr9erva", "body": "CFB is more entertaining because you get to watch top 5 teams run up the score on unranked teams.  I never watch CFB because outside of big name matchups its boring as shit watching some poor barely FBS school get schlonged by Bama."}, {"id": "dr9erva", "body": "CFB is more entertaining because you get to watch top 5 teams run up the score on unranked teams.  I never watch CFB because outside of big name matchups its boring as shit watching some poor barely FBS school get schlonged by Bama."}, {"id": "dr9j8i4", "body": "Exactly but I'm a fan of Ohio state so maybe I'm biased. Watching Alabama put up 70 on southern Tennessee state(don't know if real just example) will never be interesting as a 28-14 slug fest against auburn. Just won't. And that's the thing out of 12-15 games a season for a team only 2 or 3 have the ability to be interesting. And that's only because of rivalries,  high ranking out of conference or in conference matchups and bowl games."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7jrvvw", "body": ""}, {"id": "dr8p0ga", "body": "As a Kentuckian this is frustrating. "}, {"id": "dr8p0ga", "body": "As a Kentuckian this is frustrating. "}, {"id": "dr9ehuq", "body": "Seriously, this makes me so upset to read. \n\nKentucky deserves an NBA team, basketball is fucking life to so many people in this state. If you got just 2 guys from either UK or UofL on the team's roster they'd be selling out in no time. \n\nPersonally I was rooting hard for Sacramento to lose the Kings so they could come to Louisville. \n\nIn my mind I always wanted this imaginary team to be called \"The Kings of Kentucky\" as a kind of nod to our ABA history a la The Spirit of St Louis. I know everybody else wants to use the old Kentucky Colonels name.. but I feel like having a team named The Colonels playing in the KFC Yum Center would be too much... "}, {"id": "dr9ehuq", "body": "Seriously, this makes me so upset to read. \n\nKentucky deserves an NBA team, basketball is fucking life to so many people in this state. If you got just 2 guys from either UK or UofL on the team's roster they'd be selling out in no time. \n\nPersonally I was rooting hard for Sacramento to lose the Kings so they could come to Louisville. \n\nIn my mind I always wanted this imaginary team to be called \"The Kings of Kentucky\" as a kind of nod to our ABA history a la The Spirit of St Louis. I know everybody else wants to use the old Kentucky Colonels name.. but I feel like having a team named The Colonels playing in the KFC Yum Center would be too much... "}, {"id": "dr9j0rr", "body": "That's actually funny."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7jrvvw", "body": ""}, {"id": "dr8p4dp", "body": "I've always had a dream of a NBA team going to Louisville and KFC sponsors the arena and renames it the KFC Bucket.  I know they already own the Cardinals arena name so hopefully it would transition."}, {"id": "dr8p4dp", "body": "I've always had a dream of a NBA team going to Louisville and KFC sponsors the arena and renames it the KFC Bucket.  I know they already own the Cardinals arena name so hopefully it would transition."}, {"id": "dr962s4", "body": "They have naming rights (KFC Yum Center) but they do not own the arena. "}, {"id": "dr962s4", "body": "They have naming rights (KFC Yum Center) but they do not own the arena. "}, {"id": "dr9ek5q", "body": "Right, that's what I meant.  My apologies for the clarity issue.\n\n"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7jrvvw", "body": ""}, {"id": "dr8punx", "body": "There weren\u2019t enough hookers in the offer for Pitino"}, {"id": "dr8punx", "body": "There weren\u2019t enough hookers in the offer for Pitino"}, {"id": "dr99hzx", "body": "You don't swing the biggest dick in the room by getting fewer hookers than you want. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7jrvvw", "body": ""}, {"id": "dr8ub0w", "body": "I've been looking for an NBA so long. I ended up picking Chicago because Jordan was my first sports hero, but you're telling me I could've had a reborn Kentucky Colonels team that, if all else stays the same, would've had Anthony Davis, DeMarcus Cousins, Rondo, *and* Darius Miller on it?!?!"}, {"id": "dr8ub0w", "body": "I've been looking for an NBA so long. I ended up picking Chicago because Jordan was my first sports hero, but you're telling me I could've had a reborn Kentucky Colonels team that, if all else stays the same, would've had Anthony Davis, DeMarcus Cousins, Rondo, *and* Darius Miller on it?!?!"}, {"id": "dr9epcy", "body": "Could you imagine a team named The Colonels playing in the KFC Center. That's too much, we'd be a joke. \n\nMy hypothetical NBA team name was \"The Kings of Kentucky\" back when it looked like Sac might lose the Kings. "}, {"id": "dr9epcy", "body": "Could you imagine a team named The Colonels playing in the KFC Center. That's too much, we'd be a joke. \n\nMy hypothetical NBA team name was \"The Kings of Kentucky\" back when it looked like Sac might lose the Kings. "}, {"id": "dr9mrhd", "body": "The marketing writes itself so well, though. Player x has a big night, everybody gets a free bucket of KFC. Call it \"Buckets for a bucket,\" or something like that. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7ly5tb", "body": ""}, {"id": "drpwvp0", "body": "And yet he kept playing???"}, {"id": "drpwvp0", "body": "And yet he kept playing???"}, {"id": "drpx1s8", "body": "They obviously couldn't do a scan at halftime, and Ball probably told them it was fine"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ly5tb", "body": ""}, {"id": "drpwwdh", "body": "Ffs enough with the injuries pls."}, {"id": "drpwwdh", "body": "Ffs enough with the injuries pls."}, {"id": "drpxzqd", "body": "Relevant flair "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ly5tb", "body": ""}, {"id": "drpx0e1", "body": "That's the only reason the lakers game was worth it "}, {"id": "drpx0e1", "body": "That's the only reason the lakers game was worth it "}, {"id": "drq0z7z", "body": "Kuzma?"}, {"id": "drq0z7z", "body": "Kuzma?"}, {"id": "drq16zn", "body": "When Lonzo leaves the court the ball movement just stops. Kuz will get lucky if he even touches the ball as much, get ready for spamming of Clarkson and Randle PnR with tunnel vision. "}, {"id": "drq16zn", "body": "When Lonzo leaves the court the ball movement just stops. Kuz will get lucky if he even touches the ball as much, get ready for spamming of Clarkson and Randle PnR with tunnel vision. "}, {"id": "drq17ui", "body": "That's true"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ly5tb", "body": ""}, {"id": "drpx23v", "body": "damn.....we have good depth in front court, but we are thin af in PG.....\n\nI guess JC starting with Claruso/Ennis back up?"}, {"id": "drpx23v", "body": "damn.....we have good depth in front court, but we are thin af in PG.....\n\nI guess JC starting with Claruso/Ennis back up?"}, {"id": "drpx7sn", "body": "Knowing Luke, it would not surprise me to see Ennis getting the spot start."}, {"id": "drpx7sn", "body": "Knowing Luke, it would not surprise me to see Ennis getting the spot start."}, {"id": "drpy0zf", "body": "This. He hates fucking with the bench unit. Ennis or Caruso will start"}, {"id": "drpy0zf", "body": "This. He hates fucking with the bench unit. Ennis or Caruso will start"}, {"id": "drpz8vo", "body": "\"Vet presence\""}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ly5tb", "body": ""}, {"id": "drpx2b4", "body": "I thought they just said contusion last night. They should've took him out if they thought it was more."}, {"id": "drpx2b4", "body": "I thought they just said contusion last night. They should've took him out if they thought it was more."}, {"id": "drq82ri", "body": "Shoulder injuries are tricky, I have had a few and the day of they feel fine.  By morning I couldn't move my arm."}, {"id": "drq82ri", "body": "Shoulder injuries are tricky, I have had a few and the day of they feel fine.  By morning I couldn't move my arm."}, {"id": "drqaqwi", "body": "Hips and shoulders my man. I have had that happen to me twice on both. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ly5tb", "body": ""}, {"id": "drpx5mq", "body": "WAR CARUSO"}, {"id": "drpx5mq", "body": "WAR CARUSO"}, {"id": "drq4l2p", "body": "Jeff Teague better watch that ass \ud83d\ude24"}, {"id": "drq4l2p", "body": "Jeff Teague better watch that ass \ud83d\ude24"}, {"id": "drq9y5p", "body": "Didn't know the Lakers were renting Lowry for Christmas \ud83d\udc40\ud83d\udc40\ud83d\udc40"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ly5tb", "body": ""}, {"id": "drpx6d2", "body": "oh boy TNT is pisseddddd"}, {"id": "drpx6d2", "body": "oh boy TNT is pisseddddd"}, {"id": "drq00rs", "body": "&gt;oh boy Lavar is pisseddddd \n\n"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ly5tb", "body": ""}, {"id": "drpx9dp", "body": "Damn. I hate the Lakers but this sucks. I actually like watching Ball. "}, {"id": "drpx9dp", "body": "Damn. I hate the Lakers but this sucks. I actually like watching Ball. "}, {"id": "drqrh4b", "body": "Why do you hate them? What did they ever do to....oh right 81 points."}, {"id": "drqrh4b", "body": "Why do you hate them? What did they ever do to....oh right 81 points."}, {"id": "drqss4u", "body": "No it\u2019s because of Kobe fans. Embarrassing people. "}, {"id": "drqss4u", "body": "No it\u2019s because of Kobe fans. Embarrassing people. "}, {"id": "drri4wv", "body": "Lol wat? Your best player is a Kobe fan. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ly5tb", "body": ""}, {"id": "drpxcm2", "body": "It's okay Inside the NBA is still calling that Christmas game. It would've been a lot funner with Lonzo. "}, {"id": "drpxcm2", "body": "It's okay Inside the NBA is still calling that Christmas game. It would've been a lot funner with Lonzo. "}, {"id": "drqgjsh", "body": "Do people actually like Inside the nba or is it a meme? "}, {"id": "drqgjsh", "body": "Do people actually like Inside the nba or is it a meme? "}, {"id": "drqgynl", "body": "Is your comment a meme? Is life itself just a meme?"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ly5tb", "body": ""}, {"id": "drpywhl", "body": "All this means is that KCP will have more opportunities for game winning bricks"}, {"id": "drpywhl", "body": "All this means is that KCP will have more opportunities for game winning bricks"}, {"id": "drqhaw1", "body": "Poor rims. Even on Christmas they'll be hit by bricks."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ly5tb", "body": ""}, {"id": "drpzx1f", "body": "Is there video of the injury? Couldn't find any on  here"}, {"id": "drpzx1f", "body": "Is there video of the injury? Couldn't find any on  here"}, {"id": "drq31b6", "body": "Nurk yanked on ball\u2019s arm"}, {"id": "drq31b6", "body": "Nurk yanked on ball\u2019s arm"}, {"id": "drq3lku", "body": "Dirty ass play."}, {"id": "drq3lku", "body": "Dirty ass play."}, {"id": "drq44h1", "body": "Yeah"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ly5tb", "body": ""}, {"id": "drpzxxm", "body": "Important question, does this negatively effect my BBB stock because Lonzo won't play, or will it increase it because he won't miss a 3 point shot for at least week?"}, {"id": "drpzxxm", "body": "Important question, does this negatively effect my BBB stock because Lonzo won't play, or will it increase it because he won't miss a 3 point shot for at least week?"}, {"id": "drq4w01", "body": "By looks of it your humor stock has been plummeting for awhile."}, {"id": "drq4w01", "body": "By looks of it your humor stock has been plummeting for awhile."}, {"id": "drq67v7", "body": "How  are these things still circulating? Lonzo has been killing it now for two weeks after a slow start. "}, {"id": "drq67v7", "body": "How  are these things still circulating? Lonzo has been killing it now for two weeks after a slow start. "}, {"id": "drq6r09", "body": "Takiing shots at Lonzo will and are fading, however taking a shot at BBB and Lavar won't, and will only increase with his forray into Europe. "}, {"id": "drq6r09", "body": "Takiing shots at Lonzo will and are fading, however taking a shot at BBB and Lavar won't, and will only increase with his forray into Europe. "}, {"id": "drqarr0", "body": "Relax"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ly5tb", "body": ""}, {"id": "drq0djt", "body": "No Curry, probably no Capela or CP3, no Ball, probably no Ingram(nagging quad injury?), probably no Redick or Embiid. Sigh, fuck injuries man."}, {"id": "drq0djt", "body": "No Curry, probably no Capela or CP3, no Ball, probably no Ingram(nagging quad injury?), probably no Redick or Embiid. Sigh, fuck injuries man."}, {"id": "drqapu0", "body": "Just cancel the games, seriously. I rather watch Chuck and Shaq pick teams and run 5's. "}, {"id": "drqapu0", "body": "Just cancel the games, seriously. I rather watch Chuck and Shaq pick teams and run 5's. "}, {"id": "drqgahs", "body": "Ernie would school them."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ly5tb", "body": ""}, {"id": "drq0gme", "body": "He didn\u2019t even get the foul call on the play, total bulkshit."}, {"id": "drq0gme", "body": "He didn\u2019t even get the foul call on the play, total bulkshit."}, {"id": "drq4a7l", "body": "Who needs shit in bulk?"}, {"id": "drq4a7l", "body": "Who needs shit in bulk?"}, {"id": "drq5b4d", "body": "lol this guy acting like he's never needed bulk quantities of shit"}, {"id": "drq5b4d", "body": "lol this guy acting like he's never needed bulk quantities of shit"}, {"id": "drq6xso", "body": "costco is shook "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ly5tb", "body": ""}, {"id": "drq3gxc", "body": "Damn just as he was rounding into form too. "}, {"id": "drq3gxc", "body": "Damn just as he was rounding into form too. "}, {"id": "drqatu6", "body": "For real though, I hope this doesnt set him back in a major way. Those mid range pull ups were coming around"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ly5tb", "body": ""}, {"id": "drq7ome", "body": "So he played the rest of the game with a shoulder sprain?"}, {"id": "drq7ome", "body": "So he played the rest of the game with a shoulder sprain?"}, {"id": "drqgxsx", "body": "Yh adrenaline "}, {"id": "drqgxsx", "body": "Yh adrenaline "}, {"id": "drqn6cv", "body": "You mean Mamba mentality ?"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7ly5tb", "body": ""}, {"id": "drqihtj", "body": "Lakers are getting no fucking calls.  Ingram was smacked in the face by mcgee and slammed on the ground.   No foul call.\n\nLonzo gets smacked and heard a pop, no call.\n\nKuzma gets fouled on a 3 attempt, no call.\n\nDurant smacks Randle face, no call.\n\nThe refs has fucked the Lakers in so many close games. "}, {"id": "drqihtj", "body": "Lakers are getting no fucking calls.  Ingram was smacked in the face by mcgee and slammed on the ground.   No foul call.\n\nLonzo gets smacked and heard a pop, no call.\n\nKuzma gets fouled on a 3 attempt, no call.\n\nDurant smacks Randle face, no call.\n\nThe refs has fucked the Lakers in so many close games. "}, {"id": "drqn9rg", "body": "Yeah but I have to agree, I actually like it. Hear me out, if we were losing our games by 20 we wouldn't be complaining about calls but since our games are close and we are actually good this year we take a better look into these fouls because we know they could've won us a couple of games"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7m911h", "body": ""}, {"id": "drs6qr4", "body": "How ironic lol"}, {"id": "drs6qr4", "body": "How ironic lol"}, {"id": "drs6zz9", "body": "Your 24 hour fitness membership?"}, {"id": "drs6zz9", "body": "Your 24 hour fitness membership?"}, {"id": "drs7ejr", "body": "And my every dag raw eggs membership as well"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7m911h", "body": ""}, {"id": "drs6vsi", "body": "What does that even mean, KD"}, {"id": "drs6vsi", "body": "What does that even mean, KD"}, {"id": "drs7wop", "body": "It means that if you are playing basketball and you blocked someone like that and they called a foul you would be pissed, but yet you are saying it is a foul after seeing it on TV. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7m911h", "body": ""}, {"id": "drs7az1", "body": "Honestly can anyone match KD's all around game in the league? God tier offense, really good defense, and Elite twitter fingers, truly the most balanced player to ever do it"}, {"id": "drs7az1", "body": "Honestly can anyone match KD's all around game in the league? God tier offense, really good defense, and Elite twitter fingers, truly the most balanced player to ever do it"}, {"id": "drs87ir", "body": "Sneks do have great balance."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7m59pm", "body": ""}, {"id": "drrgrvt", "body": "Chuck and Shaq are going to be the real entertainment tonight. "}, {"id": "drrgrvt", "body": "Chuck and Shaq are going to be the real entertainment tonight. "}, {"id": "drrk4p8", "body": "They always were"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7m59pm", "body": ""}, {"id": "drrgs07", "body": "Well we had 4 good games. Maybe 5 was asking too much."}, {"id": "drrgs07", "body": "Well we had 4 good games. Maybe 5 was asking too much."}, {"id": "drrikn8", "body": "Caruso will make you regret those words."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7m59pm", "body": ""}, {"id": "drrgsao", "body": "Give Kuzma 50 shots"}, {"id": "drrgsao", "body": "Give Kuzma 50 shots"}, {"id": "drrh0a6", "body": "You know kcp is gonna take like 30 shots lol"}, {"id": "drrh0a6", "body": "You know kcp is gonna take like 30 shots lol"}, {"id": "drrh2mt", "body": "And brick the game winner"}, {"id": "drrh2mt", "body": "And brick the game winner"}, {"id": "drrh3ad", "body": "More like airball "}, {"id": "drrh3ad", "body": "More like airball "}, {"id": "drrh7ox", "body": "Brick it, get his own rebound, then airball it at the buzzer"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7m59pm", "body": ""}, {"id": "drrgtew", "body": "when Ball was pulled out of the game, that game already lost 80% of it's potential audience. now it's going to be even less "}, {"id": "drrgtew", "body": "when Ball was pulled out of the game, that game already lost 80% of it's potential audience. now it's going to be even less "}, {"id": "drrhstu", "body": "do people think that the laker franchise began with lonzo...? "}, {"id": "drrhstu", "body": "do people think that the laker franchise began with lonzo...? "}, {"id": "drri11u", "body": "current Lakers is only entertaining when Lonzo plays tbh "}, {"id": "drri11u", "body": "current Lakers is only entertaining when Lonzo plays tbh "}, {"id": "drriczj", "body": "you're mixing up \"the chance I won't watch this game went up by 80%\" with \"this game has lost 80% of its potential audience\" The lakers have by far the largest fanbase in the NBA and the game is the only one in PST prime time. "}, {"id": "drriczj", "body": "you're mixing up \"the chance I won't watch this game went up by 80%\" with \"this game has lost 80% of its potential audience\" The lakers have by far the largest fanbase in the NBA and the game is the only one in PST prime time. "}, {"id": "drrrndm", "body": "Dude he didnst say lakers fanbase. He said audience. A lot of people tune in just for lonzo ball just to see him play and the hoopla around him, even though they may not like the lakers, their opponent or basketball at all. And also 80% was an exaggeration "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7m59pm", "body": ""}, {"id": "drrh1j4", "body": "Remind me why they get the Xmas again still"}, {"id": "drrh1j4", "body": "Remind me why they get the Xmas again still"}, {"id": "drrh3so", "body": "i mean if Lonzo was playing, everyone would watch. without him, no ones watching "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7m59pm", "body": ""}, {"id": "drrh3ec", "body": "Only watching to hear Chuck roast Shaq to be followed by Shaq insecurely mentioning he's got more rings then Chuck lol"}, {"id": "drrh3ec", "body": "Only watching to hear Chuck roast Shaq to be followed by Shaq insecurely mentioning he's got more rings then Chuck lol"}, {"id": "drrhirg", "body": "A tradition that goes back farther than Christmas itself "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7kc39n", "body": ""}, {"id": "drd5so4", "body": "[video](http://official.nba.com/last-two-minute-report/?gameNo=0021700425&amp;eventNum=1050)"}, {"id": "drd5so4", "body": "[video](http://official.nba.com/last-two-minute-report/?gameNo=0021700425&amp;eventNum=1050)"}, {"id": "drd5trz", "body": "Damn they hacked the shit out of him, stunning that it wasn't called."}, {"id": "drd5trz", "body": "Damn they hacked the shit out of him, stunning that it wasn't called."}, {"id": "drdee9s", "body": "How can you tell without a closeup?"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7kc39n", "body": ""}, {"id": "drd5uq9", "body": "Eh, sometimes the calls go your way, other times they don't. In this case we happened to get lucky. I'm not going to apologize for it."}, {"id": "drd5uq9", "body": "Eh, sometimes the calls go your way, other times they don't. In this case we happened to get lucky. I'm not going to apologize for it."}, {"id": "drd68pp", "body": "It doesn't matter the Hawks are still undefeated. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7kc39n", "body": ""}, {"id": "drd6675", "body": "Refs helping the hawks to tank"}, {"id": "drd6675", "body": "Refs helping the hawks to tank"}, {"id": "drd78dp", "body": "Yet we're going to end up with the 4th pick. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7k8c8p", "body": "For me it would be Paul George. 61 steals (7 more than 2nd place Ben Simmons). Whenever I turn on a Thunder game I see him hound their opposing best wing and give a ton of effort. Had the game clinching steal against Indiana the other night. The stats back up his dominance as he is 6th in defensive rating and 3rd in defensive win shares. Overall a monster defensive year for him. \n\nWho has your vote?"}, {"id": "drcadf5", "body": "Jimmy butler or pg13"}, {"id": "drcadf5", "body": "Jimmy butler or pg13"}, {"id": "drcbbtx", "body": "&gt;Jimmy Butler\n\nNo way a player on a bottom 5 defensive team is winning it "}, {"id": "drcbbtx", "body": "&gt;Jimmy Butler\n\nNo way a player on a bottom 5 defensive team is winning it "}, {"id": "drcbsj2", "body": "That's a bottom 6 defensive team, thank you very much"}, {"id": "drcbsj2", "body": "That's a bottom 6 defensive team, thank you very much"}, {"id": "drcdtu5", "body": "My bad, I was looking at Basketball Reference's adjusted defensive rating"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7k8c8p", "body": "For me it would be Paul George. 61 steals (7 more than 2nd place Ben Simmons). Whenever I turn on a Thunder game I see him hound their opposing best wing and give a ton of effort. Had the game clinching steal against Indiana the other night. The stats back up his dominance as he is 6th in defensive rating and 3rd in defensive win shares. Overall a monster defensive year for him. \n\nWho has your vote?"}, {"id": "drcaf1r", "body": "Let\u2019s see if Paul George\u2019s team can stay at or above .500"}, {"id": "drcaf1r", "body": "Let\u2019s see if Paul George\u2019s team can stay at or above .500"}, {"id": "drcajtx", "body": "Havent they won like 6-8 of their last games?\n\n\nSeems like they're starting to figure it out. I mean miami big 3 had a rough start, the cavs this year had a rough start. \n\nIts just normal when you replace a large part of your team. \n\n\n\nHell even the warriors started slow after adding kd and thats just adding one great player to an already great superteam. "}, {"id": "drcajtx", "body": "Havent they won like 6-8 of their last games?\n\n\nSeems like they're starting to figure it out. I mean miami big 3 had a rough start, the cavs this year had a rough start. \n\nIts just normal when you replace a large part of your team. \n\n\n\nHell even the warriors started slow after adding kd and thats just adding one great player to an already great superteam. "}, {"id": "drcc2hr", "body": "No they've been insanely lucky in their games lately. This team has not figured it out. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7k8c8p", "body": "For me it would be Paul George. 61 steals (7 more than 2nd place Ben Simmons). Whenever I turn on a Thunder game I see him hound their opposing best wing and give a ton of effort. Had the game clinching steal against Indiana the other night. The stats back up his dominance as he is 6th in defensive rating and 3rd in defensive win shares. Overall a monster defensive year for him. \n\nWho has your vote?"}, {"id": "drcaf74", "body": "It\u2019s PG even tho I feel like Roberson is better defensively "}, {"id": "drcaf74", "body": "It\u2019s PG even tho I feel like Roberson is better defensively "}, {"id": "drcaq3g", "body": "As odd as it sounds I feel like you need more than just defense to win DPOY. Like Tony allen couldve technically been the best defender some years but he didnt provide much else so he was an afterthought. If a guy can bring effort offensively while combining that with lockdown defense (a Kawhi, PG, etc) they have an edge up over similar level defenders. \n\nThe exception is a center like Gobert who's defense is so overpowering at the most important position that he doesnt really need offense to be in consideration"}, {"id": "drcaq3g", "body": "As odd as it sounds I feel like you need more than just defense to win DPOY. Like Tony allen couldve technically been the best defender some years but he didnt provide much else so he was an afterthought. If a guy can bring effort offensively while combining that with lockdown defense (a Kawhi, PG, etc) they have an edge up over similar level defenders. \n\nThe exception is a center like Gobert who's defense is so overpowering at the most important position that he doesnt really need offense to be in consideration"}, {"id": "drcary9", "body": "yeah I can see this. Roberson won\u2019t get any media attention either. Hell, he doesn\u2019t even get any attention on this sub but IMO, he\u2019s been one of the best wing defenders in the last couple of years. \n\nI don\u2019t mind PG winning. Maybe, it\u2019ll convince him to stay lol. "}, {"id": "drcary9", "body": "yeah I can see this. Roberson won\u2019t get any media attention either. Hell, he doesn\u2019t even get any attention on this sub but IMO, he\u2019s been one of the best wing defenders in the last couple of years. \n\nI don\u2019t mind PG winning. Maybe, it\u2019ll convince him to stay lol. "}, {"id": "drcb94k", "body": "PG13 is the DPOY but I'm highjacking this comment to say that Marcus Smart &amp; Andre Roberson are not getting the recognition they deserve for their defense."}, {"id": "drcb94k", "body": "PG13 is the DPOY but I'm highjacking this comment to say that Marcus Smart &amp; Andre Roberson are not getting the recognition they deserve for their defense."}, {"id": "drcoazf", "body": "I think it makes sense for someone like PG to get it if you consider that 37 minutes of great defense probably adds more value to the team than 25-30 minutes of slightly better defense.  Being good enough offensively to stay on the floor and score also means you get more opportunities on the other end."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7k8c8p", "body": "For me it would be Paul George. 61 steals (7 more than 2nd place Ben Simmons). Whenever I turn on a Thunder game I see him hound their opposing best wing and give a ton of effort. Had the game clinching steal against Indiana the other night. The stats back up his dominance as he is 6th in defensive rating and 3rd in defensive win shares. Overall a monster defensive year for him. \n\nWho has your vote?"}, {"id": "drcaj77", "body": "1) Horford\n\n2) Embiid\n\n 3) Paul George"}, {"id": "drcaj77", "body": "1) Horford\n\n2) Embiid\n\n 3) Paul George"}, {"id": "drcakx7", "body": "lmao Embiid, the part time DPOY"}, {"id": "drcakx7", "body": "lmao Embiid, the part time DPOY"}, {"id": "drcanwf", "body": "This is old man, He's on pace for 70 games and played 50 minutes last night."}, {"id": "drcanwf", "body": "This is old man, He's on pace for 70 games and played 50 minutes last night."}, {"id": "drcapx1", "body": "on pace =\\= played 70\n\nHe only played 50 last night because they don\u2019t play for like 3-4 days "}, {"id": "drcapx1", "body": "on pace =\\= played 70\n\nHe only played 50 last night because they don\u2019t play for like 3-4 days "}, {"id": "drcauti", "body": "Okay but he's been fine all year, Why would he magically decide to not be fine? There's no part-time to him, However, I don't know if he would win DPOY."}, {"id": "drcauti", "body": "Okay but he's been fine all year, Why would he magically decide to not be fine? There's no part-time to him, However, I don't know if he would win DPOY."}, {"id": "drcb2m7", "body": "I don\u2019t think he\u2019s in the convo for DPOY yet. The DPOY field is weak though so I can see why he\u2019d be in the top 3 and especially his clutch blocks last night should give him more media attention since the game was nationally televised. \n\nI think it should be: \n\n1) PG\n2) Horford\n2) Embiid "}, {"id": "drcb2m7", "body": "I don\u2019t think he\u2019s in the convo for DPOY yet. The DPOY field is weak though so I can see why he\u2019d be in the top 3 and especially his clutch blocks last night should give him more media attention since the game was nationally televised. \n\nI think it should be: \n\n1) PG\n2) Horford\n2) Embiid "}, {"id": "drcf2vx", "body": "Didn't you just laugh at the notion of Embiid being in the top 3 for DPOY? "}, {"id": "drcf2vx", "body": "Didn't you just laugh at the notion of Embiid being in the top 3 for DPOY? "}, {"id": "drckaaj", "body": "The field of DPOY this year is weak. There can even be a case made for the snake and not Draymond "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7k8c8p", "body": "For me it would be Paul George. 61 steals (7 more than 2nd place Ben Simmons). Whenever I turn on a Thunder game I see him hound their opposing best wing and give a ton of effort. Had the game clinching steal against Indiana the other night. The stats back up his dominance as he is 6th in defensive rating and 3rd in defensive win shares. Overall a monster defensive year for him. \n\nWho has your vote?"}, {"id": "drcakhw", "body": "Cameron Payne"}, {"id": "drcakhw", "body": "Cameron Payne"}, {"id": "drcjo00", "body": "the GOAT of r/nba"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7k8c8p", "body": "For me it would be Paul George. 61 steals (7 more than 2nd place Ben Simmons). Whenever I turn on a Thunder game I see him hound their opposing best wing and give a ton of effort. Had the game clinching steal against Indiana the other night. The stats back up his dominance as he is 6th in defensive rating and 3rd in defensive win shares. Overall a monster defensive year for him. \n\nWho has your vote?"}, {"id": "drcasbh", "body": "This is a really weird pick but P.J Tucker has been literally incredible this year"}, {"id": "drcasbh", "body": "This is a really weird pick but P.J Tucker has been literally incredible this year"}, {"id": "drcbsow", "body": "I loved Tucker's defense on the Raptors. Luc's too. Rockets got some top defender with them: Capela, Paul, Ariza, Tucker, and Mbah a Moute"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7k8c8p", "body": "For me it would be Paul George. 61 steals (7 more than 2nd place Ben Simmons). Whenever I turn on a Thunder game I see him hound their opposing best wing and give a ton of effort. Had the game clinching steal against Indiana the other night. The stats back up his dominance as he is 6th in defensive rating and 3rd in defensive win shares. Overall a monster defensive year for him. \n\nWho has your vote?"}, {"id": "drcb1pl", "body": "Embiid. "}, {"id": "drcb1pl", "body": "Embiid. "}, {"id": "drd2m01", "body": "Covington as runner up."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7k8c8p", "body": "For me it would be Paul George. 61 steals (7 more than 2nd place Ben Simmons). Whenever I turn on a Thunder game I see him hound their opposing best wing and give a ton of effort. Had the game clinching steal against Indiana the other night. The stats back up his dominance as he is 6th in defensive rating and 3rd in defensive win shares. Overall a monster defensive year for him. \n\nWho has your vote?"}, {"id": "drcb2v2", "body": "jimmy butler imo, the timberwolves look like a college team on defense without him"}, {"id": "drcb2v2", "body": "jimmy butler imo, the timberwolves look like a college team on defense without him"}, {"id": "drccxpq", "body": "But they are still 25th in defense"}, {"id": "drccxpq", "body": "But they are still 25th in defense"}, {"id": "drcftdl", "body": "Member that one year the Knicks had one of the worst defenses in the league but Tyson Chandler won. It could happen"}, {"id": "drcftdl", "body": "Member that one year the Knicks had one of the worst defenses in the league but Tyson Chandler won. It could happen"}, {"id": "drchrc1", "body": "I actually looked at it and the year following (12-13) Knicks had 18th ranked D rating but when he won it in 11-12 they had the 5th best D rating. "}, {"id": "drchrc1", "body": "I actually looked at it and the year following (12-13) Knicks had 18th ranked D rating but when he won it in 11-12 they had the 5th best D rating. "}, {"id": "drchtj2", "body": "Oh wow, I remember the knicks defense being trash that season for some reason, guess im wrong"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7k8c8p", "body": "For me it would be Paul George. 61 steals (7 more than 2nd place Ben Simmons). Whenever I turn on a Thunder game I see him hound their opposing best wing and give a ton of effort. Had the game clinching steal against Indiana the other night. The stats back up his dominance as he is 6th in defensive rating and 3rd in defensive win shares. Overall a monster defensive year for him. \n\nWho has your vote?"}, {"id": "drcb690", "body": "If there were a \"most improved defensive player\" award I feel Kevin Dominant might get it. "}, {"id": "drcb690", "body": "If there were a \"most improved defensive player\" award I feel Kevin Dominant might get it. "}, {"id": "drcc1ww", "body": "Highest career block% by a long shot, but lowest career steal% by a long shot. And his drtg is worse than last year"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7k8c8p", "body": "For me it would be Paul George. 61 steals (7 more than 2nd place Ben Simmons). Whenever I turn on a Thunder game I see him hound their opposing best wing and give a ton of effort. Had the game clinching steal against Indiana the other night. The stats back up his dominance as he is 6th in defensive rating and 3rd in defensive win shares. Overall a monster defensive year for him. \n\nWho has your vote?"}, {"id": "drcbql8", "body": "Nobody stands out this year.  \n\nObviously Kawhi, Dray and Gobert will be in the running, but so far it\u2019s a toss up between them and the other premier defenders of the league.\n\nI think as the season progresses a more compelling narrative will develop around a few players for their defensive contributions, and eventually the media will just settle on one of them.\n\nIf I had to guess right now, I\u2019d say Draymond wins it and Gobert takes 2nd."}, {"id": "drcbql8", "body": "Nobody stands out this year.  \n\nObviously Kawhi, Dray and Gobert will be in the running, but so far it\u2019s a toss up between them and the other premier defenders of the league.\n\nI think as the season progresses a more compelling narrative will develop around a few players for their defensive contributions, and eventually the media will just settle on one of them.\n\nIf I had to guess right now, I\u2019d say Draymond wins it and Gobert takes 2nd."}, {"id": "drccdxo", "body": "Have you seen my boy paul "}, {"id": "drccdxo", "body": "Have you seen my boy paul "}, {"id": "drccggj", "body": "Pierce?  Has he gotten the full load yet?"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7k8c8p", "body": "For me it would be Paul George. 61 steals (7 more than 2nd place Ben Simmons). Whenever I turn on a Thunder game I see him hound their opposing best wing and give a ton of effort. Had the game clinching steal against Indiana the other night. The stats back up his dominance as he is 6th in defensive rating and 3rd in defensive win shares. Overall a monster defensive year for him. \n\nWho has your vote?"}, {"id": "drcca8n", "body": "Chris Paul possibly"}, {"id": "drcca8n", "body": "Chris Paul possibly"}, {"id": "drch281", "body": "Dude missed a month, only played 12 games, not enough time shown"}, {"id": "drch281", "body": "Dude missed a month, only played 12 games, not enough time shown"}, {"id": "drckxea", "body": "true. if his defensive form continues, then he should definitely be in contention."}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "7k8c8p", "body": "For me it would be Paul George. 61 steals (7 more than 2nd place Ben Simmons). Whenever I turn on a Thunder game I see him hound their opposing best wing and give a ton of effort. Had the game clinching steal against Indiana the other night. The stats back up his dominance as he is 6th in defensive rating and 3rd in defensive win shares. Overall a monster defensive year for him. \n\nWho has your vote?"}, {"id": "drch3ds", "body": "My Favorties so far in no particular order: \nKD\nPG\nEmbiid\nHorford\nDray (I haven\u2018t watched enough games to decide who is playing better D KD or Dray)"}, {"id": "drch3ds", "body": "My Favorties so far in no particular order: \nKD\nPG\nEmbiid\nHorford\nDray (I haven\u2018t watched enough games to decide who is playing better D KD or Dray)"}, {"id": "drck95r", "body": "It's Draymond. Durant gets lots of blocks from weak-side help and he's much much better these past two years than he's ever been defensively, but he's not good enough to win it. "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "Thread_ends", "body": "Thread_ends"}, {"id": "7m5psq", "body": "[removed]"}, {"id": "drrkpsm", "body": "knicks fan trying to get tj off the team. "}, {"id": "drrkpsm", "body": "knicks fan trying to get tj off the team. "}, {"id": "drrkrcp", "body": "dude be COOL "}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}, {"id": "Chain_ends", "body": "Chain_ends"}]}