<story><title>Woz: Microsoft might be more creative than Apple</title><url>http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57550839-71/woz-microsoft-might-be-more-creative-than-apple/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bravura</author><text>Serious question: I know he&apos;s the Woz, but is there any other reason that we care about his opinion?&lt;p&gt;He hasn&apos;t been involved with Apple since 1987.&lt;p&gt;Has Woz ever demonstrated any expertise in design or UX?&lt;p&gt;[edit: For anyone that has accused me of bias or fanboi-ism, let me disclose where I stand. I have run Linux on PC hardware almost exclusively from roughly 1996 through October 2012. I bought my first Mac computer a few weeks ago, being frustrated by occasional hardware compatibility issues running Linux on laptops. I think Apple has good design, but would be happy with a slim Linux laptop that works without issues.]</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>wazoox</author><text>&amp;#62; &lt;i&gt;Has Woz ever demonstrated any expertise in design or UX?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Woz built a computer with an integrated programming language (Integer Basic) that he wrote himself. So the first Apple II hardware and software were both Woz&apos; creations, including of course, the UI, primitive as it may have been: the first computer that you turned on and was immediately available for programming, with a color display, and nice tricks like the ability to display the code you&apos;re typing and the graphic result at the same time by splitting the screen, something that AFAIK never was made available on any other similar 8 bit computer.&lt;p&gt;So yes, indeed, Woz back in his time revolutionized personal computers UI, too.&lt;p&gt;By contrast, remember that the Altair had no screen and no keyboard (many used various terminals, ASR-33 teletypes or S-100 expansion cards to provide for a UI), and that you had to load a program from either the front panel keys or paper tape before doing anything with it, which was a huge PITA.</text></comment>
<story><title>Woz: Microsoft might be more creative than Apple</title><url>http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57550839-71/woz-microsoft-might-be-more-creative-than-apple/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bravura</author><text>Serious question: I know he&apos;s the Woz, but is there any other reason that we care about his opinion?&lt;p&gt;He hasn&apos;t been involved with Apple since 1987.&lt;p&gt;Has Woz ever demonstrated any expertise in design or UX?&lt;p&gt;[edit: For anyone that has accused me of bias or fanboi-ism, let me disclose where I stand. I have run Linux on PC hardware almost exclusively from roughly 1996 through October 2012. I bought my first Mac computer a few weeks ago, being frustrated by occasional hardware compatibility issues running Linux on laptops. I think Apple has good design, but would be happy with a slim Linux laptop that works without issues.]</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>quink</author><text>&amp;#62; Has Woz ever demonstrated any expertise in design or UX?&lt;p&gt;Yes. He&apos;s the reason the Apple II had support for the Dvorak keyboard layout, hidden as it may have been. That&apos;s a big UX thing for me. Huge, in fact. His design skills in terms of putting motherboards together are beyond mere mortals.&lt;p&gt;May I pose a counter-question, which is if you&apos;re bitter that Woz has dissed your cult?</text></comment>