<story><title>More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’</title><url>https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/01/covid-omicron-vaccination-rashomon/621199/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>georgekv</author><text>The biggest reason the under 5s vaccine is taking so long is that they don&amp;#x27;t suffer severe enough symptoms that they can easily test the efficacy of the virus. The same issue was there with the 5-11s but pharma, CDC, &amp;amp; FDA just glossed over that to approve the vaccines.</text></item><item><author>afavour</author><text>I kind of regret even mentioning the effects of COVID in my original comment as I figured there would be a reply like yours and you&amp;#x27;re not wrong! But it wasn&amp;#x27;t the main point I was trying to make.&lt;p&gt;My main point is that everyone just seems to have moved on from under 5s. We&amp;#x27;ve adopted a stance of &amp;quot;vaxxed and done&amp;quot; for adults and older children and paid no attention to the vax trials for under 5s taking forever. It&amp;#x27;s barely even mentioned. So we have parents across the country relying on the generosity of their employer in handling shutdowns, illnesses and so on. I&amp;#x27;m lucky, my employer has been flexible and understanding. But I know that&amp;#x27;s not the case for a lot of people.</text></item><item><author>mizzack</author><text>You&amp;#x27;ve got your anecdotes, and I&amp;#x27;ve got mine. My 3 young kids all caught omicron last week. Each were lethargic for a day, had a minor sore throat, and were back to normal in a day or two. The flu last month was way scarier with high fevers.&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s a lot of reason to be optimistic about omicron.</text></item><item><author>afavour</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m vaxxed. I&amp;#x27;m boosted. I&amp;#x27;d very much like to be done. But my children cannot be vaccinated.&lt;p&gt;As a parent of a young kid it kind of feels like everyone has just moved on. I know folks in here will tell me that statistically speaking my children are unlikely to be hospitalized and so on, and I agree. But I know enough kids who got COVID and suffered the symptoms (e.g. a months-long scratchy cough) that I&amp;#x27;m not going to stop worrying about it. We&amp;#x27;re still very unclear on the long-term effects of COVID, after all.&lt;p&gt;Couple that to daycare&amp;#x2F;preschool shutdowns: if there&amp;#x27;s a case in the class we&amp;#x27;ve got to keep our kids at home for a week. We both work. We &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; deal with it, lord knows we&amp;#x27;ve had to do it enough times already, but it&amp;#x27;s absolutely draining. And the stress of waiting&amp;#x2F;expecting the phone call from the school is always there, particularly in this Omicron phase where it feels like everyone and their dog is contracting it. And this comes from two parents that work from home. We&amp;#x27;re the luckiest of the lot!&lt;p&gt;Pfizer has already announced their trial with under 5s was not successful and they&amp;#x27;ll have to restart. Moderna was supposed to close out a trial in late November but instead expanded it to hundreds of new participants. Why? Unclear. Last I saw no-one seems to be covering it in detail. Out of sight, out of mind.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>beerandt</author><text>&amp;gt;The biggest reason the under 5s vaccine is taking so long is that &lt;i&gt;they don&amp;#x27;t suffer severe enough symptoms that they can easily test the efficacy of the virus&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;p&gt;How does anyone convince themselves that this is actually a problem?&lt;p&gt;Especially when the vaccine no longer prevents catching the virus or transmitting it.&lt;p&gt;What remaining benefit are people so eager to confer upon their toddlers?</text></comment>
<story><title>More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’</title><url>https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/01/covid-omicron-vaccination-rashomon/621199/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>georgekv</author><text>The biggest reason the under 5s vaccine is taking so long is that they don&amp;#x27;t suffer severe enough symptoms that they can easily test the efficacy of the virus. The same issue was there with the 5-11s but pharma, CDC, &amp;amp; FDA just glossed over that to approve the vaccines.</text></item><item><author>afavour</author><text>I kind of regret even mentioning the effects of COVID in my original comment as I figured there would be a reply like yours and you&amp;#x27;re not wrong! But it wasn&amp;#x27;t the main point I was trying to make.&lt;p&gt;My main point is that everyone just seems to have moved on from under 5s. We&amp;#x27;ve adopted a stance of &amp;quot;vaxxed and done&amp;quot; for adults and older children and paid no attention to the vax trials for under 5s taking forever. It&amp;#x27;s barely even mentioned. So we have parents across the country relying on the generosity of their employer in handling shutdowns, illnesses and so on. I&amp;#x27;m lucky, my employer has been flexible and understanding. But I know that&amp;#x27;s not the case for a lot of people.</text></item><item><author>mizzack</author><text>You&amp;#x27;ve got your anecdotes, and I&amp;#x27;ve got mine. My 3 young kids all caught omicron last week. Each were lethargic for a day, had a minor sore throat, and were back to normal in a day or two. The flu last month was way scarier with high fevers.&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s a lot of reason to be optimistic about omicron.</text></item><item><author>afavour</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m vaxxed. I&amp;#x27;m boosted. I&amp;#x27;d very much like to be done. But my children cannot be vaccinated.&lt;p&gt;As a parent of a young kid it kind of feels like everyone has just moved on. I know folks in here will tell me that statistically speaking my children are unlikely to be hospitalized and so on, and I agree. But I know enough kids who got COVID and suffered the symptoms (e.g. a months-long scratchy cough) that I&amp;#x27;m not going to stop worrying about it. We&amp;#x27;re still very unclear on the long-term effects of COVID, after all.&lt;p&gt;Couple that to daycare&amp;#x2F;preschool shutdowns: if there&amp;#x27;s a case in the class we&amp;#x27;ve got to keep our kids at home for a week. We both work. We &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; deal with it, lord knows we&amp;#x27;ve had to do it enough times already, but it&amp;#x27;s absolutely draining. And the stress of waiting&amp;#x2F;expecting the phone call from the school is always there, particularly in this Omicron phase where it feels like everyone and their dog is contracting it. And this comes from two parents that work from home. We&amp;#x27;re the luckiest of the lot!&lt;p&gt;Pfizer has already announced their trial with under 5s was not successful and they&amp;#x27;ll have to restart. Moderna was supposed to close out a trial in late November but instead expanded it to hundreds of new participants. Why? Unclear. Last I saw no-one seems to be covering it in detail. Out of sight, out of mind.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>throw6622</author><text>The success we’re talking about was an analytical measurement of the antigen response in the body. It wasn’t lack of symptoms which ruled that phase a failure.</text></comment>