<story><title>Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Replacing Intel</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-02/apple-plans-to-move-from-intel-to-own-mac-chips-from-2020</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>KajMagnus</author><text>&amp;gt; what&amp;#x27;s missing from a modern Linux desktop&lt;p&gt;Networking, printer stuff, graphics stuff that works immediately after installation, without one having to search for various problems &amp;amp; fixes on the Internet. And that doesn&amp;#x27;t randomly break after kernel upgrades.&lt;p&gt;Because of running into networking &amp;amp; graphics driver problems every now and then (and having to revert to older kernel versions), and problems with printers &amp;amp; drivers, I feel I would never never never recommend Linux to people, unless they enjoy troubleshooting things and learning new stuff.</text></item><item><author>davidy123</author><text>You can&amp;#x27;t easily share media between the Apple ecosystem and others. You can&amp;#x27;t access some Apple services at all from Linux.&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s no way to run userscripts&amp;#x2F;WebExtensions on IOS. Your device is no longer a user-focused tool to access media, your browser is closer to being a &amp;quot;smart tv&amp;quot; than a customize-able information explorer and augmenter essentially controlled by no one.&lt;p&gt;You&amp;#x27;re giving up an awful lot for the sake of convenience, trends that if amplified could irrevocably change the character of the Internet for the worse.&lt;p&gt;I also don&amp;#x27;t get what&amp;#x27;s missing from a modern Linux desktop, especially since nearly everything is on the web these days.</text></item><item><author>mark_l_watson</author><text>This might just be a bargaining move on Apple’s part, but I don’t think so. I think that long term they are much better off controlling their entire hardware stack. I wouldn’t be surprised to even see them make their own display screens.&lt;p&gt;As an Apple customer, I like this idea also. For 20 years, I used to be a desktop Linux fanatic and later became a fan of Android. In the last few years, I have switched to using all Apple devices.&lt;p&gt;Even though I am a computer scientists, I actually spend more time on my iPad and iPhone, by far, than on my Mac laptops. I only use a laptop for software development (because of the nature of my work, that is often just SSHed into Linux servers), the rest of my workflow and entertainment is on iOS devices.&lt;p&gt;The older I get, the more I want to get my work done expediently, leaving time to study new technologies and spend time with family and friends. At least for right now, I am maximally effective in Apple’s environments.&lt;p&gt;As a bonus, I trust Apple more that Microsoft, Google, Intel, etc.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>JasonFruit</author><text>I have used Debian almost exclusively for ten years, not counting the last couple months where I&amp;#x27;ve been doing Windows 10 for some contract work.  I can&amp;#x27;t remember the last time I ran into problems with networking, printer setup, or really anything except suspend&amp;#x2F;hibernation, barring one astonishingly cheap ($168 at Walmart) machine that had a weird integrated Bluetooth&amp;#x2F;wireless&amp;#x2F;something else card without a free driver.&lt;p&gt;That being said, Windows 10 is great for regular-user stuff --- really great, in fact.  It&amp;#x27;s only for development that it&amp;#x27;s sometimes a little awkward, and it&amp;#x27;s really not bad.  If I were working with .NET&amp;#x2F;MSSQL&amp;#x2F;IS more, I&amp;#x27;d love it: Visual Studio is a nearly perfect IDE on a powerful machine.  Debian is still better for me, though.</text></comment>
<story><title>Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Replacing Intel</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-02/apple-plans-to-move-from-intel-to-own-mac-chips-from-2020</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>KajMagnus</author><text>&amp;gt; what&amp;#x27;s missing from a modern Linux desktop&lt;p&gt;Networking, printer stuff, graphics stuff that works immediately after installation, without one having to search for various problems &amp;amp; fixes on the Internet. And that doesn&amp;#x27;t randomly break after kernel upgrades.&lt;p&gt;Because of running into networking &amp;amp; graphics driver problems every now and then (and having to revert to older kernel versions), and problems with printers &amp;amp; drivers, I feel I would never never never recommend Linux to people, unless they enjoy troubleshooting things and learning new stuff.</text></item><item><author>davidy123</author><text>You can&amp;#x27;t easily share media between the Apple ecosystem and others. You can&amp;#x27;t access some Apple services at all from Linux.&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s no way to run userscripts&amp;#x2F;WebExtensions on IOS. Your device is no longer a user-focused tool to access media, your browser is closer to being a &amp;quot;smart tv&amp;quot; than a customize-able information explorer and augmenter essentially controlled by no one.&lt;p&gt;You&amp;#x27;re giving up an awful lot for the sake of convenience, trends that if amplified could irrevocably change the character of the Internet for the worse.&lt;p&gt;I also don&amp;#x27;t get what&amp;#x27;s missing from a modern Linux desktop, especially since nearly everything is on the web these days.</text></item><item><author>mark_l_watson</author><text>This might just be a bargaining move on Apple’s part, but I don’t think so. I think that long term they are much better off controlling their entire hardware stack. I wouldn’t be surprised to even see them make their own display screens.&lt;p&gt;As an Apple customer, I like this idea also. For 20 years, I used to be a desktop Linux fanatic and later became a fan of Android. In the last few years, I have switched to using all Apple devices.&lt;p&gt;Even though I am a computer scientists, I actually spend more time on my iPad and iPhone, by far, than on my Mac laptops. I only use a laptop for software development (because of the nature of my work, that is often just SSHed into Linux servers), the rest of my workflow and entertainment is on iOS devices.&lt;p&gt;The older I get, the more I want to get my work done expediently, leaving time to study new technologies and spend time with family and friends. At least for right now, I am maximally effective in Apple’s environments.&lt;p&gt;As a bonus, I trust Apple more that Microsoft, Google, Intel, etc.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>walshemj</author><text>Um I have never had to download fixes for networking &amp;#x2F; graphics Ubuntu worked out of the box for me.</text></comment>