<story><title>If you must run Windows 10</title><url>https://tinyapps.org/blog/201811300700_windows_10_ltsc.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>owenwil</author><text>The &amp;#x27;phones home&amp;#x27; argument doesn&amp;#x27;t really add up—there&amp;#x27;s plenty of control over this at this point, and &lt;i&gt;every&lt;/i&gt; OS is calling home, macOS included, to some degree. The advertisements thing happens out of the box, and is trivial to remove (if my memory is correct, Safari harasses you about being the default browser, too, if you try to change it). The updates to add features thing.... isn&amp;#x27;t an issue for me, but YMMV.</text></item><item><author>hackcasual</author><text>Some people are tired of an OS that by default phones home about actions you do on it, include advertisement in your start area, and regularly push updates to add new features that also break existing software.</text></item><item><author>owenwil</author><text>I see a lot of angry posts like this, but fail to understand how it&amp;#x27;s reflected in reality in 2019—I agree that Windows 10 was a little messy at launch, but it&amp;#x27;s come a long way from where many of these complaints seem to stem from.&lt;p&gt;Yeah, Windows has a bad rap, but in the last 2-4 years has come leaps and bounds from where it was—implementing great, thoughtfully designed features on a regular basis, for free. With WSL2 and the other developer-focused improvements in tow, most of these are a shitlist of nitpicks, than things you&amp;#x27;ll run into every day. I switched from macOS about two years back, and couldn&amp;#x27;t see myself going the other way anymore ever again. But, that said, I can see why people want to stay there! That&amp;#x27;s the beauty of choice.&lt;p&gt;These types of posts are based on historical grudges, rather than modern experiences with Windows. Sure, there&amp;#x27;s going to be annoying things to change out of the box, but every machine, with any OS, has that.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>esotericn</author><text>Control?&lt;p&gt;My OS does not phone home.&lt;p&gt;It contacts package mirrors when I ask it to and only when I ask it to.&lt;p&gt;It contacts NTP servers because I specifically enabled that.&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s it. By contrast Windows is a black box of nonsense.&lt;p&gt;The copy I have running in a VM has the marketing name &amp;quot;Cortana&amp;quot; process running even though I specifically chose &amp;quot;no&amp;quot; at install.&lt;p&gt;I enabled a data limit the other day and played some games. The game used 30MB and the combined OS used &amp;gt;60MB doing who knows what despite the fact it tells me updates are not downloaded on metered connections.&lt;p&gt;Sorry, no, there is no excuse for this. If it&amp;#x27;s not opt in, it&amp;#x27;s malware. If it&amp;#x27;s opt in defaulted to yes and with no clear benefit to the user, it&amp;#x27;s malware.</text></comment>
<story><title>If you must run Windows 10</title><url>https://tinyapps.org/blog/201811300700_windows_10_ltsc.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>owenwil</author><text>The &amp;#x27;phones home&amp;#x27; argument doesn&amp;#x27;t really add up—there&amp;#x27;s plenty of control over this at this point, and &lt;i&gt;every&lt;/i&gt; OS is calling home, macOS included, to some degree. The advertisements thing happens out of the box, and is trivial to remove (if my memory is correct, Safari harasses you about being the default browser, too, if you try to change it). The updates to add features thing.... isn&amp;#x27;t an issue for me, but YMMV.</text></item><item><author>hackcasual</author><text>Some people are tired of an OS that by default phones home about actions you do on it, include advertisement in your start area, and regularly push updates to add new features that also break existing software.</text></item><item><author>owenwil</author><text>I see a lot of angry posts like this, but fail to understand how it&amp;#x27;s reflected in reality in 2019—I agree that Windows 10 was a little messy at launch, but it&amp;#x27;s come a long way from where many of these complaints seem to stem from.&lt;p&gt;Yeah, Windows has a bad rap, but in the last 2-4 years has come leaps and bounds from where it was—implementing great, thoughtfully designed features on a regular basis, for free. With WSL2 and the other developer-focused improvements in tow, most of these are a shitlist of nitpicks, than things you&amp;#x27;ll run into every day. I switched from macOS about two years back, and couldn&amp;#x27;t see myself going the other way anymore ever again. But, that said, I can see why people want to stay there! That&amp;#x27;s the beauty of choice.&lt;p&gt;These types of posts are based on historical grudges, rather than modern experiences with Windows. Sure, there&amp;#x27;s going to be annoying things to change out of the box, but every machine, with any OS, has that.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>eslaught</author><text>&amp;gt; Safari harasses you about being the default browser&lt;p&gt;But does it advertise to you by default? This seems not comparable at all. Pretty much every browser will want you to set it as default (and at least the option to stop the nagging is usually front and center).&lt;p&gt;Maybe this is just me, but advertising by default in something as basic as a start screen seems very user hostile....</text></comment>