<story><title>Why didn&apos;t you back me up?</title><url>https://plus.google.com/108159551615224338529/posts/L4wawXpNt25</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>rdtsc</author><text>This needs to be investigated quickly. We don&amp;#x27;t know the details.  She forced their hand and they&amp;#x27;ll have to respond publicly about this. It sounds like a last resort type action after stonewalling and lack of support.&lt;p&gt;If this is true, it is very sickening. Often this is talked about in general terms -- there is sexism, harassment, comments, jokes, etc. out there -- in the &amp;quot;industry&amp;quot;. But in this case there is particular person and particular incident that took place. Hopefully this is not ignored.&lt;p&gt;We just recently talked about Adria Richards again (the Pycon incident from a few years back). And one point I was trying to make regarding that incident was that it should have been separated from harassment and discrimination discourse. It was about PR and about a personal agenda. The reason for it, is because if it is isn&amp;#x27;t, it hurts and diminishes other future sexual harassment allegations -- it reduces them to &amp;quot;she is just probably pulling an Adria on us&amp;quot;.  Besides the harm caused to all the parties in that controversy, there was a much larger harm, and that is a future harm to cause of preventing and rooting out these horrible things.&lt;p&gt;I have a daughter, and it sickens me that one day should have choose to persue a career with these companies she would have to deal with this kind stuff. And if this is true, I somehow didn&amp;#x27;t expect this from Google. I could see this happening at an investment firm, at a hospital, at a legal firm but not with Google, which seemingly go out of their way to tell the world how inclusive, and non-discriminantory and not evil they are.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Nursie</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s a pretty nuclear step, this. Not just because it forces the employers hand, but because for standing up and shouting about this she&amp;#x27;s going to be a target for a tirade of misogynist abuse from the trogolodytes of the net.</text></comment>
<story><title>Why didn&apos;t you back me up?</title><url>https://plus.google.com/108159551615224338529/posts/L4wawXpNt25</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>rdtsc</author><text>This needs to be investigated quickly. We don&amp;#x27;t know the details.  She forced their hand and they&amp;#x27;ll have to respond publicly about this. It sounds like a last resort type action after stonewalling and lack of support.&lt;p&gt;If this is true, it is very sickening. Often this is talked about in general terms -- there is sexism, harassment, comments, jokes, etc. out there -- in the &amp;quot;industry&amp;quot;. But in this case there is particular person and particular incident that took place. Hopefully this is not ignored.&lt;p&gt;We just recently talked about Adria Richards again (the Pycon incident from a few years back). And one point I was trying to make regarding that incident was that it should have been separated from harassment and discrimination discourse. It was about PR and about a personal agenda. The reason for it, is because if it is isn&amp;#x27;t, it hurts and diminishes other future sexual harassment allegations -- it reduces them to &amp;quot;she is just probably pulling an Adria on us&amp;quot;.  Besides the harm caused to all the parties in that controversy, there was a much larger harm, and that is a future harm to cause of preventing and rooting out these horrible things.&lt;p&gt;I have a daughter, and it sickens me that one day should have choose to persue a career with these companies she would have to deal with this kind stuff. And if this is true, I somehow didn&amp;#x27;t expect this from Google. I could see this happening at an investment firm, at a hospital, at a legal firm but not with Google, which seemingly go out of their way to tell the world how inclusive, and non-discriminantory and not evil they are.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>kennywinker</author><text>&amp;gt; It was about PR and about a personal agenda&lt;p&gt;You say this like it&amp;#x27;s a fact. Did I miss some detail of this incident that came out later?</text></comment>