<story><title>Just Do It: Move to Silicon Valley</title><url>http://jakek.posterous.com/just-do-it-move-to-silicon-valley</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>sliverstorm</author><text>Why exactly are there so many attractive women? Is it something to do with NY being popular among women, or the culture of the east coast, or the presence of Ivies, or...?&lt;p&gt;edit: To clarify my question- &lt;i&gt;why are there more women in NYC&lt;/i&gt;? Is there a clear cause?</text></item><item><author>starkfist</author><text>Ah yes, OKCupid.&lt;p&gt;Here is my take on OKCupid. In SF, the real life singles scene is dominated by men. If you go to an event or a bar, there is a lopsided ratio of men to women. The women who are out, are typically insane. The cool women you want to meet are actually on OKCupid because they are tired of being surrounded by dirtbags and nerds (and insane women). So OkCupid works well for a man dating in SF, because that&apos;s where the normal, interesting, good-looking women are.&lt;p&gt;In NYC the scene is the opposite. The bars and events are overrun with attractive women. The weird trolls are the ones hanging out on OKC. Thus, if you move across country to NYC and update your OKC location, you&apos;ll start getting tons of messages from tattooed roller-derby girls who have pet snakes. The type you were tired of meeting at the bars in SF.&lt;p&gt;YMMV, I&apos;ll grant that maybe YC has inspired a generation of debonair hackers to move to SF and clean up with all the amazing local women.</text></item><item><author>fady</author><text>I find this not to be true, and to state generalizations about SF/SV dating scene or lack thereof, is also far off from the truth.&lt;p&gt;Have you ever heard of Okcupid? I&apos;m a tech guy, in the tech scene, working for a tech startup, and have found that if you want to find/date women, you need to be proactive about it (kind of like the old days).  The city, and the surrounding bay area are full of available women, who do want to meet &quot;you&quot;... just need to look&lt;p&gt;If you&apos;re not social, then you wont meet anyone in this city, especially if you moved here for a job, and have little friends, or time to meet people, hence why dating sites like Okcupid are essential.  If you grew up here, then it might be easier as you have a larger network of friends, acquaintances - that generally leads to more social events, etc..&lt;p&gt;Also - last time i checked, we have about an equal ratio of men to women (does not include sexual orientation)</text></item><item><author>starkfist</author><text>I left SF/SV because the dating scene was so bad and I felt like my startup enforced &quot;vow of celibacy&quot; had gone on long enough. There are not enough women, and the women who are there do not like you. If you are married or don&apos;t care about dating, it&apos;s a great place.</text></item><item><author>fjabre</author><text>I struggle with this question myself a lot. I&apos;m in LA currently and instead of conversations about web startups in cafes - I hear managers talking to talent and hot new ideas for movie scripts.. Pretty cool but doesn&apos;t help with a web startup.&lt;p&gt;The one major complaint I continue to hear about SV from my male friends is the severe lack of eligible females there. Being from the east coast and now living in LA I might find it hard to live in place where I&apos;m surrounded by predominantly male engineers 24/7 who are only talking about tech. I used to work as an engineer at Cisco and I remember that feeling. It wasn&apos;t a good one.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dennisgorelik</author><text>The explanation is quite simple: male/female ratio in NYC is ~0.9 and in Bay Area it&apos;s about 1.03
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nationalatlas.gov/articles/people/a_gender.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nationalatlas.gov/articles/people/a_gender.html&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>Just Do It: Move to Silicon Valley</title><url>http://jakek.posterous.com/just-do-it-move-to-silicon-valley</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>sliverstorm</author><text>Why exactly are there so many attractive women? Is it something to do with NY being popular among women, or the culture of the east coast, or the presence of Ivies, or...?&lt;p&gt;edit: To clarify my question- &lt;i&gt;why are there more women in NYC&lt;/i&gt;? Is there a clear cause?</text></item><item><author>starkfist</author><text>Ah yes, OKCupid.&lt;p&gt;Here is my take on OKCupid. In SF, the real life singles scene is dominated by men. If you go to an event or a bar, there is a lopsided ratio of men to women. The women who are out, are typically insane. The cool women you want to meet are actually on OKCupid because they are tired of being surrounded by dirtbags and nerds (and insane women). So OkCupid works well for a man dating in SF, because that&apos;s where the normal, interesting, good-looking women are.&lt;p&gt;In NYC the scene is the opposite. The bars and events are overrun with attractive women. The weird trolls are the ones hanging out on OKC. Thus, if you move across country to NYC and update your OKC location, you&apos;ll start getting tons of messages from tattooed roller-derby girls who have pet snakes. The type you were tired of meeting at the bars in SF.&lt;p&gt;YMMV, I&apos;ll grant that maybe YC has inspired a generation of debonair hackers to move to SF and clean up with all the amazing local women.</text></item><item><author>fady</author><text>I find this not to be true, and to state generalizations about SF/SV dating scene or lack thereof, is also far off from the truth.&lt;p&gt;Have you ever heard of Okcupid? I&apos;m a tech guy, in the tech scene, working for a tech startup, and have found that if you want to find/date women, you need to be proactive about it (kind of like the old days).  The city, and the surrounding bay area are full of available women, who do want to meet &quot;you&quot;... just need to look&lt;p&gt;If you&apos;re not social, then you wont meet anyone in this city, especially if you moved here for a job, and have little friends, or time to meet people, hence why dating sites like Okcupid are essential.  If you grew up here, then it might be easier as you have a larger network of friends, acquaintances - that generally leads to more social events, etc..&lt;p&gt;Also - last time i checked, we have about an equal ratio of men to women (does not include sexual orientation)</text></item><item><author>starkfist</author><text>I left SF/SV because the dating scene was so bad and I felt like my startup enforced &quot;vow of celibacy&quot; had gone on long enough. There are not enough women, and the women who are there do not like you. If you are married or don&apos;t care about dating, it&apos;s a great place.</text></item><item><author>fjabre</author><text>I struggle with this question myself a lot. I&apos;m in LA currently and instead of conversations about web startups in cafes - I hear managers talking to talent and hot new ideas for movie scripts.. Pretty cool but doesn&apos;t help with a web startup.&lt;p&gt;The one major complaint I continue to hear about SV from my male friends is the severe lack of eligible females there. Being from the east coast and now living in LA I might find it hard to live in place where I&apos;m surrounded by predominantly male engineers 24/7 who are only talking about tech. I used to work as an engineer at Cisco and I remember that feeling. It wasn&apos;t a good one.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>gojomo</author><text>&apos;Why?&apos; is almost certainly industries and culture attracting young migration differently by gender. New York has more media, entertainment, fashion, art. Also, NYC has more rigid and easy-to-read hierarchies of male success -- in finance, law, big corporations, media fame -- for women looking to land conventional &apos;big game&apos;.</text></comment>