[Cuomo:] There's a real chance for change today. Every time there's a mass shooting, people focus on the gun, right? But mental illness comes into play, and often that is your opportunity to see expose the system that is not doing what it should to get people help. But again, that could change today in a big vote. Representative Tim Murphy of Pennsylvania joins us now. He is the co- chair for the Congressional Mental Health Caucus and chairman of the House Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations. Congressman, I know this is a huge day for you. You've been waiting for it. I want to get in to the particulars of it but I do want to dispense with the news of the day. You have Paul Ryan, the Speaker of the House saying he wants the FBI director to come in and explain how carelessness wasn't enough to charge Hillary Clinton in the email situation. What's your take?
[Rep. Tim Murphy,  Pennsylvannia:] Well, I tell you, my phones are lighting up with people saying. One gentleman said, wait a minute, if I'm driving over the speed limit, can I just use the excuse for the placement that I didn't know what the speed limit was and the answer is no, you still get a ticket? And here is someone who repeatedly said, she didn't know there's a class that are top secret and Comey is saying that they were labeled as such that she should have known and yet saying that even though someone like General Petraeus is given $100,00 fine and a couple years of probation. She has left with just saying, well we're just going to let her off the hook. Those are questions the American people are demanding some answers to. But how could somebody has been secretary of state, a U.S. senator, first lady and running for President can use an excuse, I just didn't know. That's troubling with top secret and classified information specially given the kind of circumstances under which she was secretary of state. So, Comey has going to have to come and answer the questions of why what appears to be the selective enforcement of the law.
[Cuomo:] Do you think what Donald Trump calls bribery will come up or do you think that that's a scratch?
[Murphy:] Me, I don't know where that's coming from but I surely think that it is nonetheless a question or this a circumstances someone above the law giving someone that kind of excuse in the future. This is why we're just going to let you off because your intentions were not to do this for someone who should have known better.
[Cuomo:] All right. So the matter of the day, something you've been working on for years. Actually you've been spending your whole professional life dealing with this issue. What is the problem and what does your bill propose to do to create a solution?
[Murphy:] OK. So let me start up by thanking you personally for your advocacy for this important issue. We'll have in this country this year, 40,000 to 45,000 suicides, about 45,000 to 47,000 deaths from drug over dose who have homicides will have, you know, hundreds of thousands people die also from the slow motion sicknesses of chronic illness that comes with people who are seriously mentally ill. This is a devastating disease in our country. And what we've realized of our investigations, the federal government actually stands in the way with policies have been medicate affect the poor, with a person being 10 times more likely to be in jail then in a hospital if they're seriously mentally ill. Not enough hospital beds, not enough psychiatrists, not enough psychologists. Our system has failed in this area. Our bill changes many of those. It says that you can see two doctors in the same day if your pediatrician or family physician says you need to see a psychiatrist right now. This is urgent. We do provide more incentives there for more psychologists, more psychiatrists. We lift the 16-bed rule and work with CMS, Medicare and Medicaid to say that we'll have like a 15-day per month limit from now but move that up in the future. We change the structure of the way our government works by having an assistance secretary of mental health and substance use appointed to help coordinate 112, 112 better programs and agencies out there that the general accounting office says the coordination was absolutely absent and it's a disaster there. So this moves many things in the direction of saying, we're going to tackle this disease with the seriousness and the gravitize that it needs in order to help fight this insipidus disease that affects 10 million Americans with serious mental illness and upwards of 60 million Americans in any given year with some level of mental illness. We have to address it in a major way and this bill does that.
[Cuomo:] Now, for you at home that it seems like the congressman has an unusual definology about this issue. It's because he does. He's the only licensed psychologists that you have in the House of Representatives. And this has certainly become a passion for you as well as a vocation. But one of the key elements that you and I started this conversation with long sometime ago, was you know that someone in your family needs help for mental, you know, mental help. But very often, you are not able to do enough for them. And that's the narrative that often pops up in these mass shootings. You know, you end up finding out the person was this affected, they weren't taking their medicine, they weren't getting treatment and the family was helpless. How real is that problem and is there a solution?
[Murphy:] It's a very, very real problem. Your loving and caring family members who want to do something but HIPPA laws, confidentiality laws prevent it. Those laws were originally intended to prevent insurance records for being open by the next employer. And they more often to this position where a parent who have raised that child, who maybe the child the adult child is living with them, whether supporting them is basely told you can't find on anything. Even in circumstances where that adult was schizophrenia or bipolar illness. Maybe suffering from diabetes or cancer and lung disease, or infectious disease, the family just wants to help. So our bill is actually calling finance HHS to fix that rule. They told me multiple times, as Secretary Burwell said, we think it's OK if a doctor tells a family member under some circumstances were saying, no, that's not the way it works. So this bill very specifically lays out what they have to do and bring that rule back to us with a change. Because otherwise, you may have many family members who were just helpless and feeling hopeless in saving their own family member. And we don't want a cruel society here that does that. We still respect confidentiality records. We still respect the confidentiality of therapy records but we want to have a level of compassionate communication available for a caring and loving family member who can assist and facilitate treatment.
[Cuomo:] Representative Tim Murphy, Republican from Pennsylvania, during an age when everybody criticizes the people in D.C. for doing nothing, you have worked for a long time to get something that matters done. Thank you for that, and it's good to have you here. I can't wait to see what happens with the vote.
[Murphy:] Thank you. Vote this afternoon. We'll be able to save some lives when this is done.
[Cuomo:] Alisyn.
[Camerota:] All right. We will be watching that Chris. Thank you. Well, valuable intelligence from new raids against ISIS. What the U.S. and coalition partners are learning about possible future attacks, we have a live report from the pentagon next.