[Collins:] We're also learning more about the final moments of Michael Jackson's life today. Here to break it down for us, Drew Griffin, our CNN Special Investigations Unit. Yes, it seems like every day, every hour, more and more...
[Drew Griffin, Cnn Correpondent:] You know, Heidi, this is really being tabloid driven at this point. So we try to stick with what we know, the facts and we're getting from the attorney now for the doctor who was on the scene when Michael Jackson passed away...
[Collins:] Right.
[Griffin:] ... the one who was performing CPR, that doctor, Conrad Murray, we are told, did discover Michael Jackson in that bed. He was not breathing. But according to that doctor, there who talked to the L.A.P.D. over the weekend for three hours now, Michael Jackson did have a pulse and was warm. He was assigned to basically take care of Michael Jackson during this tour, which is why he was at that house. But a lot of speculation, Heidi, about what drugs were being administered to Michael Jackson, particularly one on the tabloid is Demerol.
[Collins:] Yes.
[Griffin:] This morning, the attorney for that doctor, went on our AMERICAN MORNING and specifically said, no Demerol, no Oxycontin. And whatever was prescribed to Michael Jackson was for whatever ailments Michael Jackson had. Here's what Ed Chernoff, the attorney for the doctor had to say.
[Ed Chernoff, Conrad Murray's Attorney:] Dr. Murray prescribes certain drugs for Michael Jackson as a doctor. You know he had medical conditions, medical complaints. Now there have been some questions about whether or not he was taking substances that Dr. Murray did not know about. But as far as we know, Dr. Murray knew what Michael Jackson was doing, knew what he was doing and kept up with all of that.
[Kiran Chetry, Cnn Anchor:] All right. So can you clarify some of the reporting that's out there about whether or not Michael Jackson was taking narcotics, pain killers, like Demerol, like Oxycontin? Did your client, Dr. Murray prescribed or administered those narcotic pain killers to Michael Jackson?
[Chernoff:] Yes, I've heard those rumors. And one of the things that we agreed with the L.A.P.D. was, although we are not allowed to discuss and we certainly wouldn't want to discuss the substances that Michael Jackson might or might not have been taking, we can say this with clarity, Dr. Murray never prescribed Demerol, never administered Demerol, never saw him, Michael Jackson, take Demerol. And that goes as well for Oxycontin. So I think those are just rumors. When toxicology comes back here, Kiran, that's going to be all cleared up.
[Griffin:] And the reason that none of this is all cleared up, of course, is because we haven't gotten any results from the coroner explaining exactly how 50-year-old Michael Jackson's performing just the night before in rehearsals suddenly collapses and dies. But, Heidi, there is now two autopsies.
[Collins:] Right.
[Griffin:] One, the official autopsy. The other one we know that the family had performed. The results from that one may actually come back a lot quicker, maybe within days, whether or not the family shares that with us or not, we won't know.
[Collins:] Sure. Because the other one, I remember, the assistant coroner actually coming out to the press and saying it could be like six to eight weeks.
[Griffin:] Six to eight weeks. That's a long time to wait. But
[Collins:] Very long time.
[Griffin:] The question is whether the family will release their investigation. But again, I want to keep in mind, this doctor is cooperating with the police. He's voluntarily staying in Los Angeles. He's a witness. There is no criminal investigation. There has not been a criminal investigation, and as far as we can tell from the Los Angeles police, this is not ramping up to a criminal investigation level. This is a death investigation. How did Michael Jackson die?
[Collins:] All right. Understood. Very good points. All right. Drew Griffin, from our CNN Special Investigations Unit. Thanks so much, Drew. Appreciate it. Quickly, we want to get back to the Bernard Madoff story today because obviously it is sentencing day before the convicted swindler. Our Maggie Lake is standing by outside of the courtroom because Maggie, I understand now that these victims, at least 11 of them, I think we were expecting to come to the microphones and to say their piece. You've actually got some quotes?
[Lake:] That's right, Heidi. And as expected, they are emotional and angry. An elderly woman, one of the second to speak, has said that she lost told the courtroom that she lost all of her life savings and I must work full time just to eat. Another man who followed her said that he cheated his victims out of their own money so that he and his wife Ruth could live a life of luxury. That last statement very interesting. A lot of anger is also, not only been directed at Madoff but also as his wife Ruth. And as part of the sentencing parameters that came down on Friday, it turns out that Ruth is going to be able to keep some $2.5 million, at least that's what the federal ruling is. So a lot of people are sure to be incredibly angry about that, Heidi.
[Collins:] Yes. No question. All right. Maggie, we'll keep coming back to you as we hear more from some of these victims that are coming forward today and saying what they are thinking about, about how all of this should go down. Maggie Lake, thanks so much. So maybe you're doing some grilling this weekend for the 4th of July, obviously? Well heads up. I want to let you know about a major beef recall that's being expanded this week now. The meat is associated with the possible E. Coli outbreak. It was produced at the JVS Swift Beef Company in Colorado. At least 24 people in several states have gotten sick. Once again, Bernie Madoff learning his fate today. It is sentencing day for the convicted swindler who masterminded a multi- billion dollar Ponzi scheme. We're live in New York.