[Baldwin:] While we don't know if the special counsel is even considering an interview with Michael Cohen, CNN is reporting that the president's former personal attorney is ready to talk about that meeting with Russians at Trump Tower, claiming that Donald Trump knew about it all along. But the president's current attorney, Rudolph Giuliani, tells CNN that Cohen a pathological liar. Here he is right after the news broke.
[Rudy Giuliani, Personal Attorney To President Trump:] No, no, I expected something like this from Cohen. He's been lying all week. He's been lying for years. The tapes that that we have demonstrate any number of very serious lies by him back a year and a half ago, including his fooling people, hiding tape-recordings, telling them they weren't recorded, lying to their face, breaking faith with them, taping his client, which is a dis-barable offense. I don't see how he has any credibility. This would be if he had a trial. When you have a trial, you would say, which lie do you want to pick? Do you want to pick the first lie, the second lie or maybe some new lie? There's nobody that I know that knows him that hasn't warned me, if his back is against a wall, he'll lie like crazy. Which he's lying also.
[Baldwin:] Cohen has lied to the media before in order to protect the president. In February, he said Trump knew nothing about the payment to Stormy Daniels. We now know otherwise. Just 19 days ago, Giuliani was praising Cohen's loyalty and his integrity when his asked if Cohen would turn on the president.
[Giuliani:] I do not expect that Michael Cohen will lie. I think he will tell the truth as best he can, given his recollection.
[Dana Bash, Cnn Chief Political Correspondent:] And you confident that truth
[Bash:] nothing that is negative or even worse for President Trump?
[Giuliani:] Yes. I am very confident of that. We all should be or Mueller would not have given it away if it had any hope of producing evidence against the president. I expect that he will cooperate. I don't think he'll be happy with it because he doesn't have any incriminating evidence about the president or himself. The man is an honest, honorable lawyer.
[Baldwin:] Remember, Cohen spent years as Donald Trump's fixer. He once said he would take a bullet for his boss. And when President Trump found out the conversations had been taped, Giuliani said the president felt betrayed.
[Giuliani:] He was angry. President Trump can get angry sometimes. He was disappointed, almost like a father being betrayed by his son. It was very moving.
[Chris Cuomo, Cnn Anchor:] But he obviously believed Michael Cohen was a man of good character, who he could depend on, and who would tell him the truthful.
[Giuliani:] Up until a few days ago, yes. I think he did. He had no reason to distrust Michael. He didn't. He didn't select Michael for government. You know Michael was bitter about that. That will be on tapes, without getting into the detail of it. And he is very, very jealous and bitter about the kids, which also comes across on the tapes. So you have a whole scenario here.
[Baldwin:] Those tapes of Cohen's private conversations with the president, Cohen's attorney said there's more to come. Coming up next, a prank of Sacha Baron Cohen paints one Arizona town as racist. We'll play the clip for you. And we'll talk to the mayor to respond.