[Berman:] Welcome back, everyone. We are live in Boston where the intense manhunt for two terrorists. It really grabbed the world's attention but there is no forgetting about the devastation and the heart ache in West, Texas after that massive fertilizer plant explosion that leveled parts of a small town. Listen to this.
[Unidentified Male:] Are you OK? Dad? Are you OK? I can't hear. I can't hear.
[Romans:] That little girl, her family, the family that shot that video they are OK but 200 others are injured. At least 14 lives lost including five volunteer firefighters. CNN's Martin Savidge is live in West, Texas. Martin, we know those first responders, some volunteer firefighters went rushing in after that fire, then the explosion. We know there are still some who are missing. Is there hope at this hour that they will find people alive?
[Martin Savidge, Cnn Correspondent:] No, I think, Christine, that officials have finally realized that any hope of finding survivors alive has passed now, that's why they refer it to as a search and recovery effort that's under way and they are just about complete with that. Governor Perry was here last evening, the mayor as well, informing us that they are pretty certain that 14 is what they know the number of people they've recovered so far. The number of missing is really low, so if this number goes up it's not expected to go up by a lot and they have searched about 90 percent of the devastated area. So it should be completed today. On top of the numbers we've been talking about, there are hundreds of people who remain evacuated because the entire area around that plant is considered a crime scene and part of the investigation. Many people, now that the shock has passed and the grieving is starting, want to go home, and they want to see what's been done to their homes and what remains. So they're getting more and more anxious. The hope of authorities is that today they can begin to shrink the boundary around that plant to allow some people to go back home. And as I point out the grief here, the names have not been released of those who have been killed and most of them are the first responders, but this is a small town and everybody knows one another and you can bet by now everybody knows who is on that list, and for many of them, there are people they saw every single day and now it's sinking into them that they will never see them anymore, and that's really striking for this small town. Christine and John?
[Berman:] It is such a tragedy and so much of the focus over the last few days has been on the search and rescue operation but what about the investigation into itself and into what caused this blast?
[Savidge:] Yes, there are a lot of groups that are here both on a state level and on a federal level that are looking to try to answer that very question, John. Much had been made about the anhydrous ammonia, that is a liquid kind of fertilizer and it was worried, people worried because of its toxicity. That is not thought to have been what exploded though. So the question is what was it? Another fertilizer, ammonium nitrate, which many people are familiar with because it was used in the explosive of the Oklahoma City bombing. There was a lot of it that was potentially stored there as well. In fact, there had been some accounts that said 100 times the amount that was used to blow up the Murah Building in Oklahoma City, what was inside or had been stored inside that facility there. So tremendous amount of that potential explosive. That does not mean that was the cause. It's going to take a while to figure out, John.
[Romans:] Certainly an industrial accident that will probably change how people consider zoning laws around some of these towns that have these sorts of plants and also will really cause the chemical industry to look very hard at what happened there and make sure it doesn't happen again. Martin Savidge, thank you so much, Martin, West, Texas. We'll go back to you again and continue to follow that story.
[Berman:] And we do have this breaking news and for that let's go to Pamela Brown here in Boston. Pamela? OK, Pamela? We do have some news we are told about the charges that the suspect may face, we're trying to get Pamela back on the line so she can explain to us exactly what's happening. We'll bring that to you the minute we have that.
[Romans:] And we know that he hasn't been charged yet but he is in federal custody. He is at the hospital where he was in serious condition. They brought him there last night, of course, he suffered gunshot wounds in the first fire fight with police the day earlier but he may have had other injuries from the last moments, the last volley of gunfire before they actually got him out of that boat after he got out of that boat where he'd been hiding and went to the hospital. So serious condition was the last check we had of his status there and we're waiting for news on exactly what sort of charges he will face and that's what our Pamela Brown has been following there from the hospital.
[Berman:] Yes, that's right. He is being kept right in the Beth Israel Deaconess Hospital, which is one of the fine facilities here in the Boston area. That is where his brother who was also fatally injured in the shoot-out the night before was taken. That is where his brother ultimately died and also where the victims, a number of his victims have been kept over the last week. The victims at the initial bombings and they are being treated there in the very same hospital that he is right now. Again we understand that Pamela Brown does have some information about possible charges. We will get to Pamela as soon as we can. In the meantime
[Romans:] Yes, this is an international story as you know, Dagestan is where the father of these two suspects lives, that is where they come from and we have news this morning, an exclusive interview with the father of these two men, CNN's Nick Payton Walsh caught up with Anzor Tsarnaev, in the Russian province of Dagestan. Nick, what did you learn. You say he was angry in your conversation with him. Tell us more about the reaction of the father of these two suspects.
[Nick Paton Walsh, Cnn International Correspondent:] Anzon Tsarnaev has been driving occasionally past his house just behind me there, on two occasions. He stopped, a woman got out of his car, went into the apartment behind me. We didn't approach the car. The first questioned I asked, the answer is obscure on microphone. I asked him if he thought his sons were involved in Boston, his response was never, ever. Let's hear what else he had to say. So during that conversation, he made it clear to me that he will be going to the United States very soon. He also said that he had a meeting with Russian Special Services. He made it absolutely clear, he maintained, defiantly disbelief in his son's role in anything to do with the Boston attacks and clearly was very frustrated, very angry at the attention he was facing. Let's just hear now exactly what it was he had to say.
[Walsh:] I'm with CNN. I'm so sorry, sir, we just wanted to hear your story and that was all. This is a very difficult time for you. We just want to give you the chance to tell people how you feel about this. We just feel so we don't really have a chance to properly hear all you have to say about the terrible circumstances you're in.
[Unidentified Male:] No.
[Walsh:] Are you going to America?
[Anzon Tsarnaev, Father Of Suspected Bombers:] Yes.
[Walsh:] When will you leave? You will forgive me, sir. I know it's a difficult time for you. I'm simply just trying to do my job here. I understand. When was the last time you spoke to them? Had you been in touch with the special services here, what did they have to say to you? OK, I understand. I understand. Clearly during that conversation a man greatly under strain of course, the news only recently reaching him that his second youngest son is now in custody and most likely facing charges as you just clearly heard, under intense pressure, great media spotlight here, dozens of journalists passing past his apartment here. A man also briefly detained by Russian security services trying to go to America, presumably hoping he might declare his son's name despite the constant drumbeat of evidence provided by U.S. officials John.
[John Berman, Cnn Anchor:] All right, Nick Paton Walsh for us reporting from Dagestan this morning. Thank you so much, Nick. In the meantime, we do have Pamela Brown now. She is at Beth Israel Deaconess Hospital with news that was just getting in about the possible charges faced by the suspect Pamela.
[Pamela Brown, Cnn Correspondent:] Well, John, we have learned from a DOJ source on background that even though charges have not been filed yet that they may be coming very soon, even while the suspect is still recovering here at Beth Israel Deaconess. We've learned that federal prosecutors have been here since last night working on the possible charges and that he will face terrorism charges according to a DOJ sources. And now once those charges are brought forward he will be arraigned from their preliminary hearing will be set and he will be indicted on grand jury. Also he will be facing federal charges, right now. He's in federal custody and will be facing federal charges. He could also face state charges of murder but from there a deal should be worked out between federal authorities and state authorities. Again so far no charges have been filed but we're hearing from sources that those charges will be brought soon.
[Romans:] Hey, what kind of differences in penalties are there for the state and federal charges? Clearly that's what prosecutors are going to want to look at very carefully.
[Brown:] Absolutely. On the state level, because we are in the state of Massachusetts, he would not be able to face a death penalty. There is no death penalty here in Massachusetts, but because of federal charges supersede the state charges he could still face the death penalty on the federal level.
[Romans:] All right. Pamela Brown there in front of the hospital with us, where we are told he is still in serious condition. He has not been charged yet but he is in technically in federal custody and we are awaiting those charges, state and federal charges.
[Berman:] And Pamela says the federal prosecutors have been there all night working up these charges that could come soon, Pamela tells us. Stay with us, we are getting more and more news about the developing story here in Boston. The suspect now in custody in the hospital, more news just ahead.