[Blitzer:] There is other breaking news from Ferguson, Missouri. The police there now accused by federal officials of a pattern and practice of discrimination against African-Americans. CNN has learned that's the finding of a U.S. Justice Department civil rights investigation launched in the wake of the shooting death of the unarmed black teenager, Michael Brown, by white police officer Darren Wilson. Let's dig deeper. Joining us, our CNN justice reporter Evan Perez. He broke the story for all of us. Also joining us, Daryl Parks. He's attorney for the Michael Brown family. Our senior legal analyst, Jeffrey Toobin; the St. Louis city alderman Antonio French; and our law enforcement analyst Tom Fuentes. Evan, you've been talking to your sources. What are they telling you about this Justice Department report?
[Evan Perez, Cnn Justice Correspondent:] Well, Wolf, we expect that this report will be made public tomorrow. They met with the Justice Department met with officials from Ferguson this afternoon to tell them what they are about to publish. And really this portrays a department that has deep, deep problems. I'll give you a few statistics from the report that's going to be revealed tomorrow. Eighty-five percent of vehicle stops from 2012 to 2014, the Justice Department took a look at their books; 85 percent of those stops were of African-Americans. Ninety-three percent of arrests were of African-Americans. Ninety percent of citations were of African- Americans. And again, going back to Michael Brown and the incident there, the killing of Michael Brown by a police officer, 88 percent of use of force, times the Ferguson department used use of force was against African-Americans. So you can see that what people were protesting there was something that there was an endemic problem with this police department.
[Blitzer:] Yes, only the city itself, Ferguson, about 67 percent African-American. The police force was about 60 police officers, only two of them African-American. The rest, white. Daryl Parks, you represent the Michael Brown family. What's their reaction?
[Daryl Parks, Attorney For Michael Brown's Family:] Well, certainly, it's finally they get some sense of justice for what happened to Michael. And think about it, Wolf. When Michael was killed back in August, you knew nothing about the background of this department. Now we know a lot more about what was going on in that department, especially when you think about how race played such a big role in the pattern, the practices of this department, as well as the extensive use of force issue, which certainly is something that we claim as it relates to Michael Brown's death from his death in August.
[Blitzer:] So Jeffrey, where do we go from here? The report comes out tomorrow. Then what?
[Jeffrey Toobin, Cnn Senior Legal Analyst:] The Justice Department will go to the Ferguson officeholders and say, "Look, let's make a deal, an arrangement, a settlement known as a consent decree, where you will change your practices, your training, your policies, perhaps your leadership. And then we will put in monitors who will make sure that you keep to the deal." Alternatively, if Ferguson doesn't go for that, the Justice Department will go to court and have a judge force those changes, they'll argue, on Ferguson. So those are the two options.
[Blitzer:] And Antonio French, you're active in the community, obviously. What changes would you like to see? Does this report, based on what we know right now, from your perspective, go far enough?
[Antonio French, St. Louis Alderman:] Well, I think this report confirms what a lot of us already knew, which is that Ferguson along with many other municipalities around Ferguson, engaged in this kind of behavior, which really targets African-Americans and wedges this divide between the community and the police department. What I do want to see is not just a reform of the Ferguson Police Department but really reforming how we police in general in the St. Louis community. Ferguson is one of 90 municipalities, and at least a dozen other municipalities around Ferguson engage in identical, if not worse behavior.
[Blitzer:] Systemic racism, Tom Fuentes. How do you deal with a small police department like this, because I'm sure it's going on elsewhere around the country, as well.
[Tom Fuentes, Cnn Law Enforcement Analyst:] The biggest problem, Wolf, is if you hire police officers that are racist, once they're on the department, it's almost too late. The only thing you can hope for there is that the punishment when they behave as a racist is severe enough to discourage them from doing it and, even in spite of what they think, do the right thing on the street. But if you're hiring bad police officers from the very beginning, it's the hiring; it's the training; it's the internal discipline. It's all of those things. And what this report is finding is systemic mismanagement of the police department and by the city officials.
[Toobin:] And policies, too. I mean, when you talk about a police department, Ferguson is not alone in this. Using arrests to make money for the municipality, that is a huge issue, not just in Ferguson, all over the country, where individuals, often African- Americans, are being essentially forced to subsidize the rest of the state.
[Blitzer:] Daryl Parks, you represent the Michael Brown family. What do you think, what is going to be the impact of this?
[Parks:] Well, it's a big impact. I think for all of the people who have been in Ferguson fighting for justice and fighting for some type of action to take place, this is a big step in that direction, Wolf. For the racial bias that has taken place there, for the excessive use of force issues, for the policies and procedure issues that have existed there, now it gets a positive movement on behalf of the department of justice which his family welcomes.
[Blitzer:] And, Antonio French, what do you think should happen to the Ferguson police chief, Thomas Jackson?
[French:] Well, I said six months ago that I thought Mr. Jackson should resign, and now, I think he should just be fired. I think some of the facts laid out in this report clearly shows a pattern of mismanagement and this city cannot heal as long as he's in that position.
[Blitzer:] What do you think, Daryl?
[Parks:] Without question, I think that certainly there should be some changes in the leadership of this department. That's up to the city to do. But clearly, this report clearly calls out for major change within the police department.
[Blitzer:] Tom Fuentes, they have to get more African-Americans on that force, too. They can't just have an almost exclusively white police force in a community that's 67 percent African-American.
[Fuentes:] That's true. Their whole selection process has to come under scrutiny, not only for the diversity and the hiring but character profile, not hire racist or brutal cops or crooked cops. And that starts right at the beginning before you train them, before you go through any part of their career, you have to hire the right people in the first place.
[Blitzer:] Evan, the attorney general, Eric Holder, he wanted this report out before he leaves. He's about to step down. He's got he's leaving in the next few days, right?
[Evan Perez, Cnn Justice Reporter:] Right. He promised justice for Michael Brown and, sadly, for his family, you know, they are not going to get what they thought they wanted, which is charges against the officer, Darren Wilson. They are going to have to settle for this, which is reform of the police department. You know, it goes beyond Ferguson, though, because I've been down there and you can see how the small towns up and down that road and they all basically impose a tax on black motorists as they go up and down that road, Wolf. So, it's not just Ferguson.
[Blitzer:] We're going to stay on top of the story, obviously, for our viewers. Guys, gentlemen, thank you very much. Just ahead, the White House reacting to Hillary Clinton's e-mail scandal. Did she put national security at risk by using a personal account during her four years as secretary of state?