[King:] The White House and congressional Democrats are set to resume talks next hour, but there are still giant differences over the size and the details of a new coronavirus stimulus package. CNN's Phil Mattingly live for us on Capitol Hill. He's been following these talks. Phil, they keep saying we're talking about they're making progress?
[Phil Mattingly, Cnn Congressional Correspondent:] The short answer is, no. Look, the progress, the most progress they made out of the course of four separate meetings, closed doors, top White House negotiators, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer on the other side was on Saturday where they met for three and a half hours. And I'm told, according to people who are briefed on that meeting, that the progress was basically understanding what they disagree on, understanding what both sides red lines are. And, John, I think what we're watching right now is something that, you know, if you look back to March and the understanding, the grasp of the crisis that was at hand in the massive $2.2 trillion package that was passed almost unanimously in both chambers, you recognize how very different the dynamics are. And one of those issues right now are the people negotiating, including where the President is. Take a listen to what Speaker Nancy Pelosi said when she was asked about that by Jim Sciutto this morning.
[Jim Sciutto, Cnn Anchor:] Is the President himself substantively involved in these negotiations?
[Rep. Nancy Pelosi:] I assume that he is. I trust that he is. And that they represent his point of view. And that they carried back our point of view to the President. I certainly hope he is.
[Mattingly:] It sounds like a resounding vote of confidence there. And I think part of the reason you see that right now is the President is on Twitter talking about a payroll tax cut. The White House is talking about moving forward on things unilaterally, none of which are really in play right now. You know, you mesh that with the fact Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is not actually in the negotiations right now. He's aware of them but he's not in the room. And Senate Republicans themselves have had serious questions about some of the White House negotiators and where the President is. And you get to the difficulties right now, the complexities. It's not just policy. And look, on the policy, the goals are very significant and very real. Democrats obviously want to maintain that $600 flat rate on unemployment insurance, the federal plus up of that unemployment insurance. Republicans want to take it down pretty significantly, state and local, Democrats want nearly a trillion dollars more in state local funding. Republicans right now say there's enough leftover from that first package. They just want flexibility. There are a number of major issues that still need to be ironed out. I think the big question right now is, the impetus to get a deal, the recognition that there are deadlines, there are actual millions of people hurting when they lose that unemployment, when they lose the eviction moratorium. And the realities of there's politics coming up. There's an election in a couple months, will that start to straighten things out a little bit? We should know a little bit more after the meeting that starts at 1:00 p.m.
[King:] And Phil, on another topic related to the election that's coming up, it was two weeks ago yesterday in an interview on "Fox News" Sunday, the President said he was crafting a new health care plan. We know it's an election year. We know it is very unlikely that anything not related directly to the coronavirus is going to get done on Capitol Hill as you're there. Are there any of the Republicans on Capitol Hill have any idea what the President's talking about?
[Mattingly:] No, not at all. Look, I'm always very hesitant. There's way too much snark and I think how a lot of people cover a lot of things. But there's just a level of absurdity to the President talking about health care plan that doesn't exist, saying that it's coming in two weeks, which is kind of I think friend of Inside Politics, Toluse Olorunnipa of "The Washington Post" wrote a story about everything is coming in two weeks. There's nothing coming in two weeks. There's nothing coming yesterday or today when it comes to health care. Look, the administration on the administrative side over at HHS and CMS, has done a lot of things on health care. Obviously, they're also signed on to a lawsuit to completely dismantle the Affordable Care Act. But in terms of a new health care plan, at least as far as I'm talking to Republicans up here, nobody's heard about it. Nobody knows that it's coming. And frankly, if I'm going to be honest with you, given everything else that's happening right now, I don't think Republicans want any part of that, given how that debate generally plays out for them, at least over the course of the last couple cycles, John.
[King:] Yes. Repeal and replace didn't go too well, when they controlled everything. Phil Mattingly, appreciate the important updates there on Capitol Hill. When we come back, the President's back up on T.V. after a brief hiatus that would be his campaign. And the new campaign manager says he wants debates sooner.