[Brooke Baldwin, Cnn Anchor:] Bottom of the hour. You're watching CNN. I'm Brooke Baldwin. The full horror of what happened in Paris was captured by a French filmmaker that taped video of this attack unfolding with gunmen in the street shouting, "God is great." He spoke with CNN's Anderson Cooper about this chilling video.
[Martin Boudot, Reporter Documentary Filmmaker:] A colleague of mine was going for a smoke outside and he told us that two persons were standing out and trying to get in. So we heard the very first shots and then more shots right across five or six meters away. And
[Anderson Cooper, Cnn Host, A.c. 360:] That close?
[Boudot:] Yes.
[Cooper:] 15, 20 feet or so. Did you know instantly that they were shots?
[Boudot:] No. No, no. At first we just heard shots. We heard screams. And then we tried to get on the roof and
[Cooper:] You ran up to the roof?
[Boudot:] Yeah, we went to the roof and tried to avoid bullets from and try to keep all of the agency safe, like 20 people.
[Baldwin:] That was CNN's Anderson Cooper speaking with a filmmaker, Martin Boudot. Let's take you to, as we've been reporting, nine people in custody here as French investigators and police are searching for these two terrorists. We go live to Atika Shubert in Longpont, France, near where this police raid has taken place. Atika, tell me what you have seen and what police are telling you.
[Atika Shubert, Cnn Correspondent:] What we see is a country road going to the village of Longpont, about four kilometers away. This is closest that police will let us get to the village. What we know is that this is where heavily armed police, SWAT teams, have been conducting house-to-house searches earlier today. So far, we have not heard of them finding anything. It's possible the search has been widened to the forested area nearby. This is a large forest, several thousand acres big. So it will take a lot of time to comb through this. But this does seem to be the epicenter of that manhunt as it stands now Brooke?
[Baldwin:] As we await word for police to comb through this forest, let me ask you about this gas station where the two terrorists, these two brothers were reportedly seen earlier. The gas station attendant was threatened. You saw dozens of people there, Atika. Describe that scene.
[Shubert:] That's right. That's less than 12 miles that way. Basically we were at the gas station. That's where, at 10:30 this morning, a gas attendant says the two suspects came, they were armed, and they stole fuel and food and then quickly left. The gas attendant recognizing them, called up the police and let them know. That's how police were alerted to this area and tipped off. Now, when I was there, I saw a forensics van and a number of plain- clothes policemen inside the shop at the gas station looking around the area of the cash register and looking possibly at CCTV footage. We saw a number of cameras outside there. So clearly trying to track down what the suspects were doing there and where perhaps they were going to next. This is just a short distance from that gas station. There's some security analysts that are speculating that they may be trying to take back roads to try and avoid police. In fact, there are checkpoints just a short distance. 10 minutes from here, we passed a checkpoint where they checked all of the cars, looking inside, so they are clearly trying to close the net on the suspects.
[Baldwin:] This is reminding me of being in Boston while they were searching for those two Tsarnaev brothers. Atika Shubert live near the epicenter of this manhunt. Atika, thank you. Meantime, the 23 victims of the "Charlie Hebdo" massacre have not all been identified. Of the 12 people who did die, this is what we know. All of the cartoonists and all of the journalists had forged solid reputations for lampooning the high and mighty, no matter who they were. No target was too taboo. No content too offensive. And they took pleasure at poking religion in the eye and were fearless in the face of threats and attack. The firebombing of "Charlie Hebdo" in November of 2011 emboldened them to be more brazen and more provocative in their pages in the magazine. Georges Wolinski's daughter expressed her sorry with this picture of her father's office, saying I'll translate it for you as you see the picture "Papa is gone, not Wolenski." Kianoush Ramezani is a political cartoonist who ran afoul of the religious authorities in his native Iran. He left Iran I 2009 and now lives in Paris. Kianoush, welcome.
[Kianoush Ramezani, Political Cartoonist:] Thank you very much.
[Baldwin:] I am very sorry for your colleagues who you have lost. I understand you knew several of them. I want to ask you about them. First, I understand you were friends with Coco, the mother, who apparently was threatened and had returned with her child, according to reports, and was with her child when she was threatened to type in this code. Have you been in touch with her? How is she doing?
[Ramezani:] Actually, I guess that she's the first one that I could have access because I only have her number. And as soon as I heard about this terrible problem, I just called her, and she couldn't talk very well, and I just asked if she's OK. That's the only question I could ask. And, yeah, that's all, that's all. And then I seen the name of my friend among the artists who had been killed.
[Baldwin:] I understand you knew Charb as well. Can you tell me about them?
[Ramezani:] I have been with Tignous the last time that we had been together was in September of 2014. We have been participated in one festival and we had a very long and beautiful time together. We exchanged talk about freedom of expression and how tough it is to be an exile. And Tignous was exhorting to us as cartoonists how we are at risk and how we are safe in France.
[Baldwin:] How much
[Ramezani:] That's the phrase that I'll never forget.
[Baldwin:] Wow. How much did that sense of risk worry him on a daily basis?
[Ramezani:] I think they were aware of the risk or the situation they were facing since 2011. I remember, in 2011, I bet met Charb. We participated in a mission, in a television here. I said, you are in high danger, you are at risk, you are in high danger, are you aware of that. He said, no, don't worry, I'm in France. And by the way, I don't have anything to lose so I will continue. And I have my own bodyguards and I'm not in Iran. And he made fun of the subjects.
[Baldwin:] He made fun of the subject. Sounds like they were well aware. He had his own personal protection. Kianoush, this seems to be a galvanizing moment for cartoonists, such as yourself, and journalists and those in favor of freedom of speech. Do you see, as a cartoonist yourself, possible to go too far, whether you are drawing a cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad, or of Jesus Christ? At what point is it unacceptable?
[Ramezani:] Well, this is a question of taste. Some cartoonists prefer to draw about prophets and about Jesus and Muhammad. Some cartoonists prefer not to do it. But right now, I think something important happened to us. We are much more about freedom of expression. Since yesterday, I have received more than 100 cartoons from many, many friends and colleagues from all over the world. We are exchanging cartoons about "Charlie," and "Charlie" became a symbol for us. "Charlie" now belongs to the world and belongs to all cartoonists in the world. It's not a French journal at all. And that's the change. I believe that they lost their lives for this value, which is freedom, freedom of expression. And now it's our responsibility to defend it in a way that it should be. We are cartoonists. We are not criminals. And we want to alert society. We want to show the reality to people, to the world. That's what we are what we are for. And I am very, very sad and, at the same time, very, very, very motivated more than before in a way to go too far for freedom of expression. But personally, maybe I will have some different point of view or tastes to my friends who are working with "Charlie Hebdo." I don't care. I support them. Freedom is freedom.
[Baldwin:] I think the magazine recognizes that as well. Despite the bloodshed in their own offices, they'll continue and they'll publish the next magazine next week. Kianoush Ramezani, in Paris tonight. Kianoush, thank you. Next, one question in the wake of all these attacks, should media outlets be showing these satirical cartoons? CNN is choosing not to. Critics are blasting our network and other papers and other outlets as well. Carl Bernstein, Brian Stelter debate this big discussion. We'll be right back.