[Valerie Morris, Cnn Anchor:] Crowe has been charged with assault in the incident. And apparently, he does want to speak, Bill and Carol, to the person that he assaulted. He says he's very sorry for that.
[Carol Costello, Cnn Anchor:] Because he's been charged and their could be lawsuit filed?
[Morris:] Oh, yes, yes. So make nice. A very, very good first step.
[Costello:] But I'm sure I know, I'm being cynical. Maybe he just wants to say I'm sorry because he feels bad. Who knows.
[Morris:] A little anger management. Maybe that can help.
[Bill Hemmer, Cnn Anchor:] Perhaps. Thank you, Valerie. In our CNN "Security Watch" today, that possible terror plot in Lodi, California. A fifth suspect has now been detained. That's about 35 miles south of Sacramento, that town. The FBI believes it's uncovered a serious threat to the U.S. Listen here.
[Keith Slotter, Fbi Agent In Charge:] We believe through our investigation that various individuals connected to al Qaeda have been operating in the Lodi area in various capacities, including individuals who have received terrorist training abroad with the specific intent to initiate a terrorist attack in the United States and to harm Americans and our institutions.
[Hemmer:] Now, that was from yesterday. Today our terror analyst Peter Bergen has been watching this all unfold from across the Atlantic in London. Peter, welcome back here. I want to read a statement that came out in a draft form of an FBI affidavit yesterday and how it has since changed 24 hours later. It states: "Hamid stated that during his weapons training, photos of various high-ranking U.S. political figures, including president, would be pasted on their targets." It continues, "Hamid advised that he specifically requested to come to the U.S. to carry out his jihadi mission. Potential targets for attack would include hospitals and large food stores." Again, that last line. Potential targets for attack would include hospitals and large food stores. A day later, that's been pulled back by the FBI. Can you offer an explanation as to why that would be the case?
[Peter Bergen, Cnn Terror Analyst:] Well, it's a very good question, Bill. You know, FBI affidavits are usually done by the agent in charge of the case. And usually there are two FBI agents who are
[Hemmer:] Are you suggesting either the threat or the story itself may be softer than first realized?
[Bergen:] I think the story itself might be a little softer. I mean, there are a couple of problems with the story already, as I understand it. One is that this training camp was supposed to be near a place in Pakistan called Rawalpindi. But Rawalpindi happens to be the headquarters of Pakistan's army, and it sort of defies common sense that a major paramilitary training camp would be operating in that area, I think. It's either a much smaller camp than was initially portrayed in some of the affidavits that were floating around, or the Pakistani government is really falling down on the job if it's allowing a major paramilitary training camp to exist in an area near where its army is based. It's also near its capitol. So there are some a lot of unanswered questions, I think. The case seems to be fairly serious. I don't think there seems to be much debate that this the allegations that this guy was receiving some form of paramilitary training in Pakistan. Who was exactly giving it, what was the exact target? These now are not less are less clear than they were in the initial reports.
[Hemmer:] And one other thing. You make your Peter, the point you make is that one of these men implicated is a second generation American. Why do you see that as significant?
[Bergen:] Yes. I think that's very significant. We've seen a number of second generation Europeans going Muslim, second generation going to Pakistan and engaging in suicide attacks, for instance, in Israel and training in Kashmir. But we haven't seen any Americans, or almost none. Certainly none in the 91111 period. So if the allegations of this is true, this is the first example of a second generation Muslim-American, an American citizen, going to train for paramilitary operations in another country. I think that's significant.
[Hemmer:] All right, Peter. Thanks. Peter Bergen, terrorist analyst in London, reporting for us today. And stay tuned to CNN day and night for the most reliable news about your security Carol. For 13 years, Zach Osborne has lived with the death of his little sister. Back in 1992, 4-year-old Natalie was raped and murdered. Their mother's ex-boyfriend was convicted and sentenced to death for the crimes. Zach is 19 years old. He's a college sophomore and he's getting some financial help from an unlikely place and that would be death row. Zach Osborne is live from Charlotte, North Carolina, this morning. Good morning, Zach.
[Zach Osborne, Getting Help From Death Row:] Good morning.
[Costello:] First of all, you were six years old when your sister was murdered. How did this affect you and your family?
[Osborne:] Well, it was really hard losing a family member, especially a daughter. My parents, they take it really hard. It really tore up my family a lot. Some lost their faith and worse.
[Costello:] And didn't you end up living with a relative because your mother couldn't handle it?
[Osborne:] Yes. I was actually, to my knowledge, I was supposed to be going to a foster home and my grandmother took me in.
[Costello:] So the ex-boyfriend, the man who murdered your little sister, is now on death row. And you come across this magazine called "Compassion." Inside the magazine are articles written by death row inmates. How did you come across this thing?
[Osborne:] My mom received it in her mailbox, actually, one day, about my senior year in high school. And she doesn't know who sent it to her, but it's really weird that we received it.
[Costello:] It is strange. And some might think it's stranger still that you chose to enter an essay contest sponsored by this magazine. Why did you do that?
[Osborne:] Well, I did it for my sister mostly. I mean, she died at least I mean, if I did get this scholarship, it would be something it would be one thing good that came from her death.
[Costello:] What was the essay about?
[Osborne:] The essay was about how she died, how it affected my family and how I would use the scholarship money.
[Costello:] And did you write it as a message to those on death row?
[Osborne:] Not really. I just wrote it from my heart mostly.
[Costello:] You know, I guess some people would find it I don't know, I guess I use the word strange, again, that you could accept money from people on death row who may have committed the very same crime that the ex-boyfriend committed against your sister?
[Osborne:] Yes. It is it is a little weird from where the money's coming from, but they're trying to help out. And it's kind of hard not to accept gifts.
[Costello:] And I understand you want to become a police officer?
[Osborne:] Yes.
[Costello:] And why is that?
[Osborne:] Well, I want to try to prevent further violence, from these tragedies happening to other families.
[Costello:] In "Compassion" magazine, the inmates on death row who write the articles I guess they come out against the death penalty. The ex-boyfriend, he's on death row. Do you believe that he should be put to death for your sister's murder?
[Osborne:] A jury decided that, and he was guilty, and I believe in the system. If that's what his punishment was decided, then, yes.
[Costello:] Well, Zach Osborne, good luck to you.
[Osborne:] Thank you.
[Costello:] Thank you for joining
[American Morning. Osborne:] Thank you.
[Hemmer:] 22 minutes now before the hour.
[Costello:] Still to come, one movie studio comes up with a novel way to fight bootleggers, but could it backfire? Andy explains in "Minding Your Business." Also, the American Heart Association says it now has a simple formula for losing weight. We'll look at the no-fad diet and see if it's real, next here on AMERICAN MORNING.