[Poppy Harlow, Cnn:] Welcome to our viewers in the United States and around the world. It is 1:00 a.m. here in New York. I'm Poppy Harlow live with you this evening. We have CNN's special coverage of the most spectacular and stunning political shakeup in modern history. Tonight, mass demonstrations in New York, Oakland, and Portland, and other major cities across the country, the fallout from an election shocker. The democrats, not to mention many republicans thought was impossible, and then polls said was improbable. Crowds chanting Donald Trump is not our president speaking
[Paul Vercammen, Cnn Correspondent:] Well, there is about 1200 protesters, they've scattered throughout downtown. If you look over here, they are basically chanting all kinds of things including Trump excuse me, love Trumps hate. Now, they're chanting one person, one vote. Many of the people in this crowd have expressed to us that they fear that some of their relatives or friends might be deported under a Trump presidency. Also tonight, many people expressed to us, as Californians, they feel that their votes didn't matter in this election because the Electoral College and some of them went so far as to say that they thought that California should secede from the union. So, a lot of different experiences and a lot of people here rather spirited, Poppy. Earlier by the way, they burned a Trump head in effigy and now they're chanting "Not our president!"
[Crowd:] Not our president! Not our president! Not our president! Not our president! Not our president! Not our president! Not our president! Not our president! Not our president!
[Vercammen:] All right, Poppy. It's going to be difficult for me to hear you if you try to fire away a question. So, I'll toss back to you right now the scene in Los Angeles. This has been peaceful. The L.A. Police Department has been taking a hand's off approach. And at one point, one of the protesters got on the bullhorn and thanked them with the hands off approach and for protecting them. And again, they are chanting "Not our president" back to you, Poppy.
[Harlow:] Paul Vercammen, live for us in Los Angeles. Let's take a look at what Paul was talking about, and pull that up for our viewers to see, one of the things that was burned tonight, earlier tonight. Jean Casarez is in New York City. And Jean, you're with a crowd of protesters. It's past 1:00 in the morning here in New York. They're in front of Trump Tower. We've learned from the police, 15 people have been arrested for disorderly conduct. What are the protesters saying tonight about what they want to see happen. I hear their frustration. What is the action that they would like to see?
[Jean Casarez, Cnn Correspondent:] It's anger and it's hatred and ironically they're saying the same thing we just heard in Los Angeles that Paul Vercammen was telling us they were saying. But the crowd has really dispersed here as you can see behind me. There a lot of New York police officers, because they started telling people through a recorded message that they were beginning to block the sidewalk, and if they didn't disperse, they would be arrested for disorderly conduct. And as you said, 15 of them were arrested throughout the evening. But at the height of this today, remember we started in Union Square and walked 40 blocks with them here. And what their saying is it's hatred. It's hatred against Donald Trump. It's hatred against Mike Pence. It's hatred against the system in general. With some of them, signs saying that America has never been great. At the height of this, the New York Police Department said there were approximately 5,000 people. I want you to listen to what one protester said to me at the right at the height of everything tonight. Listen.
[Unidentified Male:] Part of it was a deep fear of a racist reaction that Donald Trump will re-enact harsher stop and frisk laws that will wind up putting so many people back into prison. Also, a deep fear at the sexism that will be bubbling up through the United States, because you saw this incredibly qualified woman to be president being superseded by a man who has no qualifications at all for the office.
[Casarez:] And so what it really got to tonight before they dispersed was they just started chanting different things and they started clapping their hands, one was "Pay your taxes," one was talking against the tower saying "New York hates Trump." They said that a lot. So, I think anything that they could get their message across, a message of really hatred, not only upset that he was elected last night as our next President of the United States, but just a passion just a passion to as you can see, there's some volatile people here. So, I'm going to send it back to you.
[Harlow:] All right, Jean Casarez reporting for us. Thank you very much, Jean. And Ryan Young, to you in Chicago, you're at the protests there. I wonder if you're hearing anything else from the protesters there just in terms of what they want to see happen now? Are there any solutions or any talk of unity?
[Ryan Young, Cnn Corrspondent:] No solutions so far. A lot of people hoping far last ditch effort where maybe somehow, Trump doesn't become president. I can say the group actually split into three different groups and walked down the street just a few minutes ago. And in fact, I just heard one of the police radio say there are only group of about 200 left. But this is the scene where everybody was outside the Trump building here in Chicago. We had several thousand people have been marching since about 5:00. And one of the things I want to show you, Poppy, is this blockade that they have right here. This is what they had set up so no one could get across the bridge to the hotel and the residences of Trump Tower. That's where they wanted to stop. We heard a lot of people wanting to scream a lot of vulgarity. And getting on top of city buses as well. In fact, we talked to one of the passing man in the street about what he would like to you see happen in the next few days.
[Unidentified Male:] They're blocking the street, they're burning flags, they're standing on buses, they're writing swear words all over buses. It's not helping. This isn't this is not helping. I wanted Hillary to win more than anybody. Anybody. And to stand out here and to not have a call to action and not be specific, that's why we're that's why we're here where we are now, because we haven't been talking about policy, because we haven't been being specific. Because we've been talking about the things that don't matter.
[Young:] So you heard that anger. You can hear his frustration. A lot of people were upset with the idea that people were blocking streets. Look, look. People were saying it's too late for some of these. I want to show you some of the destruction that happened out here as he was talking about what he didn't want to see any more of the fact that people were doing spray painting, they were jumping on city buses. That was what something that he was like, "Hey, let's channel this anger and move it in a different direction, maybe get more people mobilized to vote for the next election." We heard that over and over from people as they were walking by. Again, about 200 protesters left. But at one point, this swelled to about 3,000 people. So, a big difference in the last few hours, Poppy?
[Harlow:] Yeah. Ryan Young, thank you so much for that. Jean and Paul as well. I want to take you also on the west coast tonight to Oakland, California, where police say about 6,000 protesters are on the streets there. J.R. Stone is with us with us tonight with our affiliate in Oakland, KRON. J.R. what do the streets of Oakland look like this evening? J.R. Stone,
[Kron Anchor:] Well, I can tell you the message first of, from the streets of Oakland and from the protesters, is quite simply "Dump Trump!" That is a phrase that we have heard over and over again. And you see these streets in Oakland, right now, the crowds have dissipated. But more than 6,000 people were on the streets at some point this evening. We're talking about fires that were in the streets. And I think we have video of that as well. Now, at one point within the last 45 minutes, police actually moved in. Tear gas was used, because at one point some of the protesters began sending and throwing bottles, rocks and firecrackers towards some of these police. I got a word a little while ago that fire actually broke out inside the Chamber of Commerce building, a small fire at that. So, certainly have had a busy night. Multiple agencies have responded to this one. We've heard a lot of phrases out there. We've heard the quote, "Not my president." We've heard "Trump says go back, we say fight back." We've heard, "Si se puede," which means, "Yes, we can" in Spanish. So it has been one of those nights. At one point, there were two groups within the city, they met together. But then when that tear gas was dispersed, it appeared that those numbers came down dramatically. We might be in the hundreds right now. Now back to you, two in the studio.
[Harlow:] All right. J.R. live with us. J.R. Stone in Oakland, thank you very much. All right. Just to go through some of what he was saying, is some of what's trending tonight on social media, #notmypresident, number one on Twitter, #heisnotmypresident, number one on Twitter in the United States and around the world, and #istillwithher also trending on Twitter tonight. Let's talk about all this with our panel. Where we go from here? Julian Zelizer's a historian and a professor of Princeton, Andre Bauer, Trump supporter and former Lieutenant Governor of South Carolina. Our CNN Political Commentators, Alice Stewart, former Communications Director for Ted Cruz, who supports Donald Trump, CNN Senior Media Correspondent, Brian Stelter, and Hilary Rosen, a Hillary Clinton supporter. Andre, let me begin with you. Listening to Donald Trump in the wee early morning hours, he said, "I pledge to every citizen of our land that I will be president for all Americans." Now, what should he say or do to unite the people that we just saw in these four big American cities with him?
[Andre Bauer, Former South Carolina Leiutenant Governor:] If I were him, I'd sit down with Bernie Sanders, and try to have a meeting and try to say what can we do to have some find some common ground and the first things I would pass as president would be things that unite so many of the different factions that could bring them together.
[Harlow:] It's an interesting proposal. Like what?
[Bauer:] Infrastructure.
[Harlow:] OK.
[Bauer:] Go after infrastructure, jobs, creating new opportunities, for employment and creating some our bridges and roads that need to be addressed. I think everybody can unite behind that. Right now, it's a cheap time to borrow money.
[Harlow:] It is and I think that's a really interesting point, Alice, because the immediate thing that the most people would think of Trump is build the wall, repeal completely Obamacare, and, you know, deport millions of undocumented people in this country. Do you agree with Andre that if he wants to be united, if he wants to be the president for all Americans, perhaps he should start with something that both sides agree on like a big infrastructure project?
[Alice Stewart, Cnn Political Commentator:] I mean, that certainly would be a good first step for sure. Because, as we're seeing a lot, especially with that in California, the big concern is what's he going to do about immigration? We heard some them say that they're worried that their friends or family are going to be deported. That's a big concern. Others, we know, some of the protester are the LGBT community. They're concerned about what kind of appointments he'll make to the Supreme Court. But then again, he's made commitments saying he will have conservative justices in the Supreme Court. One of the things interesting earlier, we saw one of the signs that said "They tried to keep us silent, but little did they know we were seeds." And, what they're basically trying to say is like "We have a voice, we want to speak, please listen to us." So, maybe it's just a matter of Bernie Sanders and some of these leaders of these organizations getting them together, giving them the opportunity to say what's on their mind and let them speak.
[Brian Seltzer, Cnn Senior Media Correspondent:] This is not about infrastructure on the screen. This is
[Harlow:] But, Brian to Alice's point about, you know, we have a voice hear us. The one thing that Donald Trump has tweeted since becoming president is that those men and women who were unheard in America, and I'm paraphrasing here, has been heard.
[Stlelter:] Yes. The forgotten man
[Harlow:] Right.
[Stelter:] Forgotten woman will never be forgotten again, he said. By the way his most re-tweeted comment he's ever had. And we know he's a Twitter pro. These people here, they are fearful. Jean was talking about hate, people hating Trump and Pence. But what I've heard walking through the streets of New York tonight was fear, fear of many different kinds. And infrastructure spending is not going to solve that fear. This maybe the beginning of an important new left-wing movement in the
[U.s - Harlow:] You said to me
[Stelter:] It might not be, but this could be a new occupy?
[Harlow:] You said to me, Brian yes, is this a new occupy.
[Stelter:] You know, and what occupy was there was no specific agenda to occupy. It was about being present and being seen. I do wonder if we're going to see encampments near Trump buildings that will be one to get his attention. And he has an opportunity here if he chooses to speak right now, to talk about this, try to speak with these protesters.
[Harlow:] Hilary Rosen, to you, there are pictures we are seeing them on our screen all throughout the evening of protesters hanging an effigy of the president-elect in front of Trump tower, one of the those actually, is this hanging model of Trump above a sign that says "Love Trumps Hate." Clinton called for unity today. Her words were that Americans owe Donald Trump, quoted, "Open mind and a chance to lead." What do you want to see tonight as a Clinton supporter?
[Hilary Rosen, Political Consultant:] Well, I guess, I know what I'd like to see but I don't expect much. I think that, you know, Trump has never been particularly open and interested in protesters. So, I can imagine he will be this time again. We've seen the most aggressive actions against the protesters in New York City, right in front of Trump Tower where, you know, you can see now the police force of hundreds of New York City cops going in there to clear the streets. So, I don't think he particularly is interested in these voices, but what I guess I would hope his supporters here is real fear among people about what he does with the social compact that many people feel like that the U.S. has turned into this coalition of minorities and women looking for a recognition of equality. And I think what's happened is that the effort that he has made has kind of conflated into an economic protest, an economic agenda. And I do agree with Brian that I don't think those two things are going to collapse very easily together. I don't I don't think Bernie Sanders is the leader, Andre, of the community that doesn't want to be assured that they're not going to be deported, that they're going to want to feel that the Supreme Court will continue to recognize their rights. That's it's not that's not it. I think you will see President Obama be more aggressive in that area. But I think that look, Donald Trump has already said he's going to erase, you know, President Obama's executive orders on deportation, and that is scary to families. Yes, he doesn't he's not an antigay person I believe as people think that. I haven't seen that. But he's promised to appoint Supreme Court justices that are anti-gay and have a proven record of it. So, you know, I think the problem now is that we've empowered in this election and he will empower a very, very conservative congress who will be in charge. Mitch McConnell today has already
[Harlow:] Julian Zelizer, to you, Hilary brings up a really interesting and important point. Is there going to be a difference between rhetoric and reality? The rhetoric of the campaign, the reality of the governing. How will Donald Trump actually govern? Will he actually carry through on all of the very drastic measures that he has put forward, which by the way, much of the country supports and made that very, very clear. This is we're seeing democracy play out in the streets of America tonight. You're looking at pictures from earlier in New York City. And right now, those are live pictures from the streets of Los Angeles tonight where it's just past 10:00 in the evening. Julian Zelizer, to you, you wrote about this today and you said what Trump taught us is that you need to speak directly to the people. He did that in his massive rallies, he did that on Twitter. How does this change American politics going forward? What are the lessons from history that were missed here?
[Julian Zelizer, Princeton University Professor:] Well, he's obviously broken some of the traditional forms of communication and opened new ones. And I think you can make comparisons with FDR and "Fireside chats," or the way that Newt Gingrich used television and cable television to communicate directly. He has some of that. I don't know how he will use it in the governing process. The governing process is very different than the campaign. It requires different kinds of rhetoric. It requires different kinds of negotiations, and there'll be new kinds of restraints imposed on him. What he has, though, is a united congress. And so, the incentives will not be toward bipartisanship. The incentives will not be to work with Bernie Sanders, in my opinion. The incentives will be to please a republican majority that's very conservative and that now sees an opportunity to do what Obama did in 2009 and 2010. And the protests, I don't know how long these will last. And the only issue so far, is Electoral College reform that I've actually heard people talking about. I don't think that's going to go very far.
[Harlow:] You know what's interesting in 2012 after Mitt Romney lost, Trump said that the Electoral College was, quote, "A disaster for a democracy." The final vote tally isn't in, but right now, Hillary Clinton, Alice, is leading when it comes in the popular vote. If that continues, he will have only won, because of an institution that he called the disaster for democracy.
[Stewart:] That has been around since our founding fathers put it in the constitution. Right now, you're correct. Hillary is about 0.2 percent ahead in the popular vote. Obviously, Trump won the Electoral College. And here's the thing, this is what are the way our founding fathers wanted to do it. It's kind of a compromise in electing the president by having the will of the electorate along with the popular vote of the people in order to elect our president, and has worked fine for all these years. A similar situation, as we all know, in 2000 as we had Al Gore winning the popular vote, and yet Bush winning the Electoral College. We didn't see this type of activity but there are going to be flaws with all aspects of this. But it's part of this process and has worked well for many years. And I don't see I don't see any changes.
[Harlow:] My panel will be with me throughout the next two hours, stay with me. But before I go to break, and just look at what you're seeing play out in your screen. This is live footage from the streets of Los Angeles tonight. Chanting, burning some Trump you know, burning effigies of the president-elect. You see, tossing around like a pinata. Profanity written on some of the signs here, people voicing their displeasure with what has happened through, you know, the process that this country goes by. Much more of this ahead, Donald Trump spent the past year slamming President Obama. Later today, these two men will meet together at the White House to talk about that peaceful transfer of power. We will look at this extraordinary meeting that is ahead. Also, could Rudy Giuliani be the next Attorney General? What about Newt Gingrich as the next Secretary of State? New details about what's a Trump administration could look like. An election night triggered a wild ride for world financial markets. We will look ahead at what this all means for global exchanges. You're live in the "CNN NEWSROOM."