[Cooper:] Before the break, we saw Donald Trump suggest to Ted Cruz once had a Canadian passport, then went ask for evidence. He said, "Well, that's what I heard." He also said that Senator Cruz should go to federal court and so many words, ask a judge to rule him American enough to be president. Our Senior Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin says that's simply not the way the federal court works. Trump also had plenty of other controversial things to say especially on foreign policy. Here is part 3 of his conversation with our Wolf Blitzer.
[Blitzer:] I've heard everything you've said on foreign policy over these past several months. There seems to be, and correct me if I'm wrong, an emerging, let's call it a "Trump Doctrine". You want China to take care of North Korea. You want Russia to take care of Syria. You want Germany to take care of Ukraine. Basically, you want to outsource all of these sensitive issues.
[Trump:] Well, I want help. The United States, we're like policemen of the world. We're involved with Ukraine but Germany doesn't care. Now, Germany should care a lot more than us, and why are we always the one that's out there. And Putin said very nice things about me. I mean, he understands I get it, OK, I get it. And most people don't get it. But you look at what's going on in the world. We're the policemen of the world. We owe $19 trillion. We just made a ridiculous budget, you know, the omnibus that just approved in about like 15 seconds. I never saw a budget of that size. Who would ever believe a budget like that gets approved so quickly. I mean, the only thing Obama negotiates well with, frankly, are the Republicans. He always seems to come out on top with the Republicans. Iran beats him. Everybody beats him. We're the laughing stock all over the world but the only one he beats are Republicans. And the Republicans should be ashamed of themselves for allowing that budget to pass. So now, we're at $19 trillion plus we're going to be at $21 trillion right now. So yeah, I want other countries to get involved.
[Blitzer:] Let's talk about some other tensions, as bad as the Middle East is. It's getting worse right now.
[Trump:] Getting worse.
[Blitzer:] These tensions between Saudi Arabia and Iran. The execution of the Siite cleric in Saudi Arabia, the ransacking and burning of the Saudi Embassy in Tehran, first of all, would you condemn Saudi Arabia for the beheadings of these clerics and these terrorists?
[Trump:] I don't like it. I mean, I don't like. They're supposed to be our, you know, great ally. I don't like to see it. They, you know, they executed all of these people, who knows. I mean, here in this country, if we execute like one person a year, it's like a major event. They do it like routinely. Nevertheless, Saudi Arabia is sort of the one that we picked and we are there. And I have many friends from Saudi Arabia, very good people. But Saudi Arabia has got to pay. If we're going to protect them from Iran, which we made a super power, you know, we gave them $150 billion, we essentially gave them the right to make nukes, because that's what they are going to do. And if they don't make them, they'll just buy them because they have so much money. And, you know, they'll be doing...
[Blitzer:] You know, the Saudis hated this nuclear deal with Iran.
[Trump:] I hated it more than them.
[Blitzer:] I know you hated it.
[Trump:] And Israel hated it more than I do.
[Blitzer:] Israel hated, the UAE hated we all hated it, are you concerned the Saudis now, given this tension with Iran, Saudi Arabia may decide, "You know what? We're going to go buy a nuclear bomb maybe from Pakistan or some place like that". That proliferation issue is really serious.
[Trump:] I said to that deal and I said it to CNN, I said it to anybody that who would listen, is going to lead to great nuclear proliferation and that's what is happening. That's what's going to happen.
[Blitzer:] Because the Saudi Foreign Minister...
[Trump:] And you can't blame them.
[Blitzer:] Adel al-Jubeir, I don't know if you know him, he used to be the Ambassador. He told me last year he wasn't ruling out the possibility that Saudi Arabia could go ahead and develop, or maybe even buy a nuclear bomb. They have a lot of money.
[Trump:] Well, they want to develop or buy, they have plenty of money, believe me. And they have plenty of money. And, you know, when I see Yemen with that long border right along Saudi Arabia, and I saw the event the other day where, you know, with the in Iran, which was caused, in my opinion, by the government of Iran as an excuse to go in because they want to take over Saudi Arabia, they want to get the oil. They want to take over Saudi Arabia. And the other reason they wanted Yemen, in my opinion, is because now they have a nice long border right in this perfect feeder right into Saudi Arabia. And, you know, at some point, we have to be reimbursed. We actually pay rent. You know, in Saudi Arabia where we have a basement, pay rent. We pay rent for protecting, why are we paying rent? They have to pay up. South Korea has to pay up. Germany, we protect Germany, you know that, right? We protect so many different countries, we get nothing.
[Blitzer:] Installed 40,000 U.S. troops in Germany. Right now 70 years after World War
[Ii. Trump:] And you know what they pay us, practically nothing. They make Mercedes, they are a behemoth economically. They have tremendous money. We protect them. One of the things I do very early, I want to protect a lot of people but they have to help us, they have to help us economically. We are becoming a third world country. We are a deader nation, $19 trillion and the new very dumb budget that was approved by everybody two weeks ago, that's going to add at least another $2 trillion, so worth $21 trillion.
[Blitzer:] You heard the President of the United States, 30,000 Americans die each year from gun violence, about half suicides. What would you do right now to prevent that kind of slaughter?
[Trump:] OK. The first thing I do is protect the Second Amendment. The second thing I do is I wouldn't use executive orders to do this. You got to get people. You know, our country was founded on the basis that you're supposed to negotiate back and forth with different members of different parties, and you come to a conclusion through negotiation and compromise. You don't go and just keep signing orders. And all he's doing is taking chunks out of the Second Amendment. That wouldn't happen. You know, isn't there's...
[Blitzer:] You don't want convicted felons or mentally ill people to be able to go to a gun anyplace...
[Trump:] When you say...
[Blitzer:] Can get access to a gun...
[Trump:] When you say anyplace, we have very strong laws right now on the books but the federal government says it's very bad...
[Blitzer:] Gun shows for example, you don't want the bad people having access to guns.
[Trump:] But when you get into the gun show that's a slippery slope. That stops a father from giving his child a...
[Blitzer:] What about online purchases?
[Trump:] Let me go a step further, because we..
[Blitzer:] The background check makes sense, right?
[Trump:] We have to protect the Second Amendment. We have no choice. We have to do that. It's very important. I believe it from the sacred standpoint...
[Blitzer:] The President says he believes in the Second Amendment too.
[Trump:] Well, I don't think he does because he's and Hillary is a disaster. Hillary wants to take the guns away from everybody. And Hillary is going to be worse than Obama. Hillary is I can't imagine this, she wants to take the guns. You know what's interesting, in California when you had the two people, these two horrible people, shoot people that gave them a wedding party. These people that got killed gave them a wedding party. Anyway, they went in. They shot. If a couple people in that room had guns or if a couple of people in Paris had guns, you wouldn't have had 130 people or 14 people in California laying dead with more to follow because you have so many people so badly wounded. If people in Paris as an example, which is the toughest gun control place on earth they say, Paris and France, now if you're a bad guy, you can't have a gun. If you're a good guy, you can. If they had guns here or right here on their ankle and those guys walked in there and started shooting, it would have been a much different story. So and you know, it's very interesting, so many people that believe in the gun control when we have these debates, they always lose the debate to me and then I call them up the next day. So how do you feel about? Well, I still haven't changed my mind. I don't know what it is. We need the Second Amendment. We can have a chopped up but if it is going to be changed, it's got to be done through a process, not through executive orders.
[Cooper:] And Wolf Blitzer joins us now. I want to ask you about foreign policy in a second, but it is so fascinating to hear Donald Trump talk about Ted Cruz and refusing to say whether he believes Cruz is a natural born citizen which in the past he had given a different answer to ABC, to Jonathan Karl. Saying that a lot of legal experts had looked at it and he got a clean bill of health on this one. Now, he's saying well he's hearing a lot of people asking this question.
[Blitzer:] Right. And it's getting closer and closer to Iowa and some of the more recent polls in Iowa show that Ted Cruz is actually ahead of Donald Trump in Iowa. So it's getting tense and you saw him even suggest that Ted Cruz favored amnesty, that he wasn't stronger on illegal immigration than he is. So this is going to get, I suspect, the next less than four weeks a bit tougher between these two frontrunners, shall we say at least in Iowa. Donald trump is way ahead nationally in almost all of the polls. His ahead in New Hampshire but in Iowa it's close. Ted Cruz has a solid base there especially among the evangelical conservatives. So a lot of people have suggested to me and I'm sure to you as well Anderson that, Donald Trump is a bit nervous right now that's why all of a sudden an issue that I thought would have come up a long time ago. The fact that Ted Cruz was actually born in Canada raising questions about whether or not he's a natural born citizen eligible to become president of the United States. I assumed that was going to come up awhile ago. It's coming up now less than four weeks before the Iowa caucuses.
[Cooper:] And it is interesting this notion you brought up there in the interview of a Trump doctrine. He's talking a lot about burden sharing specifically about the U.S. leaning on China when it comes to North Korea. In an interview, I do with him months ago he talks about wanting to, you know, bomb the hell out of ISIS, take in Iraq's oil. He spoke with a lot of, you know, forcefulness, muscularity some would say when it comes to foreign policy in the past. Do you see that as they shift?
[Blitzer:] No, because I think over the years he has really wanted to avoid U.S. entanglements. I have interviewed him many times over the years. I recently, in preparation for this interview, went over a lot of the interviews I did with him in 2012, 2008, 2007. For a longtime he has been adamantly opposed to the U.S. involvement in Iraq, for example he said the United States should have never gotten into Iraq. He said to be years ago that President George W. Bush was a disaster. He shouldn't been impeached for what he did in Iraq. So he wants the U.S to stay out, on the other hand, he does have does have a robust military posture. He wants the U.S. military to be strong to get tough if necessarily but his preference clearly with North Korea, with Syria, with Ukraine as he makes it clear, let others do the work. The United States should not be the international policemen.
[Cooper:] Yeah, Wolf Blitzer, fascinating interview. I appreciate it. Wolf, thanks very much.
[Blitzer:] Thank you.
[Cooper:] Just ahead tonight, Wolf also asked Donald Trump how the U.S. should respond to North Korea's claim about testing a hydrogen bomb. Mr. Trump had an answer to the question is, does his plan make sense? Some details on that ahead.