[Grace:] A gorgeous mom of three shot dead in front of her children by her formerly loving husband. Now hallucinating, high as a kite, after he eats marijuana candy. Mommy calls 911 begging, begging for help for nearly 15 minutes before dispatch sends the cops. And it`s not the first time.
[Unidentified Female:] ... domestic violence in progress. RP versus her husband...
[Unidentified Male:] It took police 13 minutes to get here. And by the time they did, they were too late.
[Unidentified Female:] ... who`s been smoking marijuana.
[Unidentified Male:] Inside, sources say Richard Kirk ate edible marijuana and was hallucinating. He asked his wife to shoot him.
[Unidentified Female:] Male had a gun...
[Unidentified Male:] When she refused, police say her husband pointed the gun at her and pulled the trigger. We need an officer...
[Grace:] This woman murdered by her husband in front of her children after he ingests edible pot? Let`s take a listen to the dispatch call.
[Unidentified Female:] Report of a domestic violence in progress. RP versus her husband, who`s been smoking marijuana. Advised they do keep a handgun in the house, but it`s not in anybody`s possession. Report of a domestic violence in progress.
[Unidentified Male:] We need an ambulance code 10 for party down, we`re going to need homicide.
[Unidentified Female:] Wife on an open line claiming that a male had a gun. All we have is the screaming in the background.
[Unidentified Male:] Is the victim from St. Paul being transported? And who`s going to be the IC on St. Paul?
[Grace:] Joining me right now, Norm Kent, the former president of Normal, to legalize marijuana. Brad Lamm, Addiction Specialist and Founder of Breathe Life Healing Centers. But first to Dr. William Morrone. Dr. Morrone, what is edible pot? What are we talking about?
[Morrone:] They extract or they use parts of the plants and put it in candy, muffins, brownies, anything that`s edible. Instead of smoking it, you eat a product that`s made from parts of the plant.
[Grace:] Norm Kent and Brad Lamm joining me. Norm Kent, you want this legalized, and this formerly loving husband eats edible pot in candy form, whips out a gun, threatens to kill himself and ends up murdering his wife as the two children are right there? And you want to legalize that?
[Norm Kent, Former President Of Normal:] Nancy, what do you want to do, put warning signs in the cookie aisles in supermarkets? Do you want to lock up pig farmers because people eat too much bacon? Of course...
[Grace:] What are you talking about?
[Kent:] ... this is a nonsensical lawsuit.
[Grace:] Wait, what, what, what...
[Kent:] I`m saying the scene is ridiculous.
[Grace:] ... what is this have to do with pig farmers? Help me. What are you talking...
[Kent:] You don`t, Nancy...
[Grace:] First of all wait, let`s just get it out there, Norm Kent.
[Kent:] Because you this is a lawsuit...
[Grace:] Are you high right now? Are you high?
[Kent:] Nancy, me being high...
[Grace:] Did you eat edible pot...
[Kent:] I don`t have to be high, Nancy.
[Grace:] ... on the way to the studio?
[Kent:] Because me being high, I still make more sense than you do sober. Let`s deal with that reality.
[Grace:] Really? Really? OK, because...
[Kent:] Yeah, my dear, really.
[Brad Lamm, Addiction Specialist And Founder Of Breathe Life Healing Centers:] So, Nancy, this is what happened in Colorado. There was a race to legalize, there were no legal limits on the amount of THC and edible, so the edibles that are fro sale in Colorado are very, very high. They`re toxic, if animals eat them, they can die. And two out of 10 people that use THC or pot will have a negative reaction to it. So when Norm says pot is no big deal, it is a big deal to those that it`s a big deal for. So two out of 10 will get...
[Kent:] They`ll have a worse reaction listening to you.
[Lamm:] ... will get paranoid and delusional, Norm. So when you downplay it...
[Grace:] That`s when you pot...
[Lamm:] ... it does a disservice to every family out there who has a loved one that`s struggling with pot.
[Grace:] So...
[Kent:] NO, not at all, Brad.
[Grace:] ... let me understood the lawsuit.
[Kent:] You do a disservice by misrepresenting good qualities of marijuana and THC, their medicinal qualities, their healthful qualities...
[Lamm:] You`re the one. I think it`s I think it`s amazing for many people. For some, it`s just like a drink of wine after work. For my brother, Greg, who has a stage 4 cancer, it`s the thing that`s helping him eat and stay alive. So, look, I`m not against it...
[Kent:] Thank you, I agree.
[Lamm:] I`m certainly not against medical marijuana, but you`re so shrill on the pro side, it`s ridiculous.
[Grace:] OK, Brad, I don`t think...
[Lamm:] Yes?
[Grace:] ... anyone has any disagreement with medical marijuana to ease pain and nausea and suffering of people, for instance, that have stage 4 cancer or whatever...
[Lamm:] Yeah, it`s awesome.
[Grace:] ... is causing them pain.
[Lamm:] Yeah. Yeah.
[Grace:] So that`s not what we`re talking about. What we are talking about is legalizing recreational use of marijuana in the degree to the degree that it was in this case. Unleash the lawyers. Randy Kessler, Alex Sanchez. Alex, now there is a lawsuit suing the store that sold the edible pot. What about it?
[Alex Sanchez, Defense Attorney:] I think they might have some merit. I think the government is responsible for highly unregulated industry. I think the store that sold the marijuana is responsible for not properly labeling their products and I think the state police are responsible for not responding to this emergency in time.
[Grace:] What about it Kessler?
[Randy Kessler, Defense Attorney:] Maybe the government, but there were no warnings regulated. Maybe we need regulation. We need some regulation...
[Grace:] Maybe, maybe, maybe. I`m talking about a real case right now, and I want answers. Two children see their mother gunned down by their father, high on pot. There was too much THC in there, but Norm Kent, you`re still advocating it be legalized. What is wrong with you?
[Kent:] I`m saying that I`m saying that this person should be charged with first-degree murder. He`s asserting a defense of insanity, so clearly, it`s a lot more than marijuana that`s the issue here and yes, we believe in the responsible regulated use of taxable marijuana in our communities. Twenty-four states have been doing it now. We have planes flying on time, trains getting to places on time, and people doing it well.