[Unidentified Male:] At least $10 million a year for off-duty officers and security.
[Diana Williams, Metrolink Spokeswoman:] What we're doing in response is talking to St. Louis City, our partner in the city, about how they can increase their patrols and increase their protection of our system.
[Unidentified Male:] I think it was disgusting that no one. That people were sort of laughing and smiling about it. No one offered to help.
[Nick Valencia, Cnn Correspondent:] Three suspects on the run. As far as the victim is concerned, he suffered only superficial injuries. He didn't have to be hospitalized, but he says he's not going to run. He is not going to take the train now for fear of his own safety.
[Fredricka Whitfield, Cnn Anchor:] Very close call. All right, thank you so much, Nick Valencia, appreciate that. All right, that's going to do it for us here in the NEWSROOM. Thanks for being with us this afternoon, Nick and me, Fredricka Whitfield. More NEWSROOM straight ahead with Poppy Harlow.
[Poppy Harlow, Cnn Host: 3:] 00 eastern here in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Poppy Harlow joining you from New York. First up, a new and shocking development to the downing flight 9525, was the co-pilot who investigators believe deliberately took down that plane, hiding a psychiatric condition? And ex-girlfriend of 27-year- old Andreas Lubitz telling the German tabloid magazine "Build," that he was a troubled man who often had bad dreams that his plane was going down. CNN cannot independently confirm that report. This comes after police found ripped up documents in the home of the 27-year-old co-pilot stating that he was quote "unfit to work'on a number of days including on Tuesday, the very day that Lubitz apparently decided to steer that air bus A320 into the southern French alps. Just what was ailing Lubitz thinking that's not yet been revealed? But in addition to media reports citing anonymous sources that he was suffering from a mental illness, and new report in "The New York Times' says he has been treated for vision problems that may have threaten his career. Let's go straight to the mountainside area where they are staging all the search and recovery efforts near the crash site. Our senior international correspondent Nic Robertson joins me from there. And Nic, I can't imagine how difficult it is to be there as people are just waiting for any remains they could get to be returned. But when it comes to the search, I know they are trying to construct some sort of access road to make it a bit easier for them to get to the crash site because it's been so tough. What are you seeing?
[Nic Robertson, Cnn Senior International Correspondent:] Yes, they really feel that they need to put in this access road because, you know, if the weather changes here for the worst, that could means the helicopters are not able to fly, that means the whole mission would grinds to a halt. So the locals mass is that building a road, that could take as long as eight days from the closest sort of main highway here to the crash site would be a distance of about four or so three or four miles, that sort of distance, maybe a little less. Some of the road is already there, rough track, but they have to extended over the top of the hill, then down into a down a very steep valley, obviously, as rocky terrain. So it's going to take some time to do that. Today, we know there have been 40 recovery workers on the ground, some 400 people employed sort of more widely on the mission here, two helicopters in the air. And we spoke to one of the helicopter pilots, and he told us just how hard it is, the conditions, the wind in particular.
[Unidentified Male:] Very difficult conditions. We are in a closed area, very, very closed from the mountains. It's a very short place, and so it's quite difficult for us.
[Robertson:] Dangerous?
[Unidentified Male:] We can't say dangerous because we have to stay focused on what we do, but it's a lot of mental conditioning and a lot of concentration. I don't want to focus on the possible victims I see on the floor. So I'm proud because I know I will bring back bodies to the family. And I think it's very important. That's my duty.
[Robertson:] And, of course, getting the bodies back is so important for the families. And then from the mountainside, they go to a medical center where forensic tests are done, DNA testing by a metric, testing fingerprints, that sort of things. There are, we are told, 24 technicians working on that. Also here in the area, 13 Spanish and German, and Interpol investigators as well, Poppy.
[Harlow:] Yes, truly global effort because people on the plane, these victims, were so many different nationalities. Nic, let me ask you this. When it comes to the pilot, we have learned his name today, also one of these victims. What else do we know about him?
[Robertson:] Well, he was the man aboard the aircraft that had all the experience, Patrick
[Harlow:] Yes, and heard on the audio recording from the cockpit, banging, banging, banging, trying to get in as the plane descended. Nic Robertson, thank you very much. And we are going to continue to talk about this as investigators work to piece together as the life of Andreas Lubitz, 27-year-old, there is intense focus on his state of mind the day he crashed that Germanwings flight into the French Alps. Joining me to discuss, Dr. Jacqueline Brunetti, she is the senior FAA aviation medical examiner, also former FAA safety inspector and CNN safety analyst David Soucie is with me. Thank you both for being here. Doctor, let me begin with you, you are a medical examiner. It is up to you and your peers to determine the physical well being of pilots to man these aircrafts. When you heard that Lubitz had apparently torn up doctor's notes, saying he was unfit to fly, including on that day that he flew the plane into the Alps, what do you think?
[Dr. Jacqueline Brunetti, Senior Faa Aviation Medical Examiner:] That's more than disturbing to know that someone would try and conceal that type of information. And to me, what's interesting about that is who were the physicians who were giving him those notes? You know, it's unclear in the story that's unfolding right now. So I think that's a big question.
[Harlow:] Right. And what did the notes say?
[Brunetti:] Exactly.
[Harlow:] We don't know if they said anything about a mental illness. But David Soucie, to you, you know, a lot of people have been talking about whether or not there's too much a stigma around a potential mental illness. These are the number of reports right now that he suffered a severe depress episode back in 2009. That he was battling depression, we cannot independently confirm that, but is there a stigma from pilots that are trying to battle it. That they are don't want to come forward with it?
[David Soucie, Cnn Safety Analyst:] Well, I think that this the pilots I know who experienced this had their depression, gone through divorces, had difficulty financially, and things like that, that have suffered depressive episodes, got out of it, fine. And I don't know there's any kind of social stigma within the pilot community. I think they banned together. This is a band of brothers that know they have the same responsibility. And they do that.
[Harlow:] They go back in the cockpit when well enough?
[Soucie:] They are. In fact, they are pretty it's kept quiet. They don't know what's going on. But usually when a pilot takes time off, at least a couple other friends of his would know what's going on, and it's not really well communicated. I don't see that as a significant problem within that community. Now within passengers, it might be could be a different story if thigh knew.
[Harlow:] Doctor, I wonder, though, this whole system relies on self- reporting. Is that a mistake?
[Brunetti:] Well, let me say first, I'm not speaking for the FAA. I'm speaking as an aviation medical examiner and private physician. It's you know, you rely on a patient, and as a physician for years, you rely on the patient to come to you and tell you their symptoms. There is onus on the medical examiner to ask the right questions and to observe the person and to see if that you can pick out certain signs that would perhaps give you a clue into something going on that's not on the surface and maybe would trigger some further testing.
[Harlow:] Here's the question that my team and I keep going over and over is, as a doctor in your position, you were required to look at their physical condition, but not to do a psychiatric evaluation. Why is that?
[Brunetti:] Well, there is there is somewhat of a psychiatric
[Harlow:] Somewhat, though, but not a set.
[Brunetti:] But not a formal psychiatric or psycho-logic testing. And that's not part of it. I think that it was probably part in the industry of the hiring process. But, you know, once they get to me, they've been hire. And you maybe
[Harlow:] Yes, but, I wonder if you think that's a mistake?
[Soucie:] Well, I don't think it's a mistake because of the perspective it was. I think it does needs to be looked at and improved. There is no doubt about that. But you have to understand the perspective of that state of approval and that is that they are looking at symptoms. So the question there, the things that they asked during the medical exam are psychiatric. But they are symptomatic. There are things like what have you gone through? Do you think you have this? Do you think you have that? So it's not sufficient. I don't believe at all.
[Brunetti:] I ask about stress, I ask about sleep, I ask about what kind of schedule do they have, and some of it is pretty erroneous.
[Harlow:] Here is the thing. If there were a mechanical problem found on a plane, right, even if they were very rare that a plane crashed because of that, one in, you know, many millions, right, like this instance is, that would get change. The laws would change. And that would have to be fixed. So I got to push back a little and ask, should these procedures change?
[Brunetti:] My problem with this is what test do you do? How specific is the test? How accurate is the test? And once you start applying testing to a large population, most of whom will be absolutely normal, there's the potential of picking up false positives or missing real disease. And then I think that in any of those questionnaires, you know, you you may be great one day, the day you take the test, and two weeks later, something is a trigger.
[Soucie:] As opposed to the mechanical issue you brought up, we know what's in the black box, the flight data recorders that were there, the cockpit and voice recorders are there, that the red box, this is what we call the red box in the investigation is it changes, and you they are so variable, and every person is unique. So I think there's a big challenge in trying to figure this out and come out with a litmus test that says you're ready to play and you're not.
[Harlow:] And you are not. David Soucie, thank you very much. Dr. Brunetti, thank you very much. Appreciate the perspective. And we're going to continue to talk about this tragic crash throughout the hour. I also, though, want to get to another top story here that we're following very closely. Iranian nuclear talks hitting a roadblock as time ticks down to a deal deadline at the end of the month, that's ahead.