[Pinsky:] Fourteen-year-old Kali Bookey is accused of beating her brother`s teen girlfriend then slitting her throat. The girl survived. Kali calls herself a psychopath. Watch this.
[Unidentified Male:] They found a 15-year-old girl, badly beaten, the victim was the girlfriend of Bookey`s brother. She told the investigators the younger girl had biked several miles to her home, walked inside, and savagely beat her. She did make the statement to her victim, "This will be my first, but it won`t be my last." Investigators say Bookey admitted to punching the girl up to 30 times then smashing two ceramic bowls over her ahead and using the broken pieces to cut her neck. When the suspect left, she made the comment, "enjoy the afterlife." Bookey later told authorities she was jealous of her brother`s relationship with the girl.
[Pinsky:] I am back with Sara, Yodit, and Melissa. Melissa, more details here.
[Mccarty:] So, this 14-year-old, I mean, we have to take that in, 14 years old, is being charged with attempted first degree intentional homicide, and she will be, according to reports, tried as an adult. Now she has admitted to police and also her victim who is only 15 years old, the girlfriend of her brother, that she was a self-proclaimed psychopath, and she wanted the girlfriend to be her, quote, "first kill."
[Pinsky:] Oh.
[Mccarty:] Now she also admitted to stalking this young girl for a week prior trying to figure out how she was going to do it. Now, Drew, this is where it`s interesting. She was the one that called police. Now, initially, she made a phone call to police saying at 4 a.m. she was riding her bicycle around when two masked men jumped out of a truck, tried to abduct her, and instead, she said, hey, "don`t take me, I have a girl whose home alone, take her instead." And then when police arrived, they found this teenager bleeding from the face and the neck because she was brutally beaten for two solid hours. A bowl was smashed over her head, shards of the bowl were used to cut her throat. At one point, the victim asked for a glass of water. The accused, you know, attacker, then gets her water, and she says, "do you want to," according to the complaint, "do you want to die now or bleed out?" And the victim reportedly said "I want to bleed out." When cops showed up, still alive, currently in critical condition, and that`s when she identified who her attacker was.
[Pinsky:] And according to court documents, Kali told the victim, told the victim, that she was a psychopath. Joing me now is Casey Jordan, a criminologist, attorney and host of Wives with Knives on Discovery. Casey, let`s first of all, let`s first open by reviewing the criteria for psychopathy so we really understand what we`re talking about here.
[Casey Jordan, Criminologist:] Well, we have a debate between a psychopath versus a sociopath. But most psychologist agree that psychopathy is going to be genetic or innate in nature, and that sociopathy or what we now call antisocial personality disorder is usually a product of the environment. Of specific things that happen to a person. And the number one criteria we usually look at is abuse. Surviving sexual abuse, emotional abuse, psychological abuse. But I don`t think this girl is a psychopath, I think she just watch too much television.
[Pinsky:] Well, would you wait a minute.
[Jordan:] She is obsessed.
[Pinsky:] Wait a minute.
[Jordan:] What?
[Pinsky:] I don`t know how a 14-year-old can do this kind of thing without being a psychopath. I mean, she apparently showed no anxiety, she did it so systematically for such a sustained period of time. I don`t understand know how a 14-year-old could do that unless she had no emotion, which is what psychopaths have.
[Casey:] Oh, I think she has emotions. And I think her emotions are jealousy, obsession and attention seeking. The key is that she has a bunch of elements, but she doesn`t have the impulsivity. Remember, she plans this very carefully. And the key is that her mother said there was no sign of this whatsoever. Does she have a history in school? Has she tortured animals? Started fires? It isn`t impossible that this is popping up for the first time when she is 14, but what kind of girl gets obsessed with her brother and with his girlfriend to the point where she wants to kill the girlfriend? I think something very bad happened to this young lady, perhaps it`s lately, but her obsession is either with her brother or the girlfriend. Whether its flowers in the attics or whether its wild things, something is going on with this girl that I think is not organic, but environmental.
[Pinsky:] OK. She`s like that she had been sexually abused or something, is that what you`re implying?
[Jordan:] I think it`s very likely.
[Drew:] Okay. Melissa?
[Melissa Mccarty, Special Correspondent, Crime Watch Daily:] She also claims reportedly told the victim that she thinks that she will kill again.
[Drew:] And she told she told...
[Jordan:] That she left her alive.
[Drew:] ... and she told detectives that she hated her brother`s girlfriend because she made him happier than Bookey could make him.
[Jordan:] Right.
[Drew:] So, there you go. Jealousy results in stalking and homicidal behaviors?
[Jordan:] Well, I think the key here is that she didn`t kill the girl. She said that she wanted it to be her first kill but she left her alive. She then called the police, made up a story about abductors, sent the police to the girl`s house to make sure that she actually lived. Interestingly enough, the girlfriend in the meantime was texting the boyfriend, the older brother of the attacking girl, and saying that well, when she died, she wanted his last name, also the attacker`s last name on her tombstone, and later from the hospital said that her scars looked cool. I mean, I think you`re talking about a triad of three teenagers without very much going on in their lives who really enjoy drama. I`m not saying that the attack wasn`t serious, but I do think that there`s a lot more going on here than psychopathic.
[Drew:] Okay. And HON cannot refute or confirm what we`re talking what Casey is suggesting here. Yodit, you got a look of a what? Confusion on your face?
[Yodit Tewolde, Attorney:] I`m I`m just mortified by the fact that this 14-year-old can go to such a great length and I`m sure that all of us can agree that it is properly being handled in the adult court. She is a juvenile and I`m glad that they`re not keeping the case in the juvenile court because of the cold and calculated manner in which she went about this. It deserves to be in an adult court. She actually needs to be transferred from a juvenile detention center to an adult jail. That`s where she deserves to be.
[Sara Azari, Criminal Defense Attorney:] Yodit no. I think, okay, I`m with you on the trying her as an adult. In fact, in Wisconsin, you don`t even get a fitness hearing to determine whether you should stay in the juvenile system. The DA`s office has full discretion to charge you and try you as an adult. So, there`s no fitness hearing in the scenario, but to put a 14-year-old in prison with adults, I think, you`re exposing that 14-year-old to a lot of safety issues, and then, also, the liability of the state as a result of that. I don`t think that she needs to be with adults serving time, but I see why she has to be accountable as an adult.
[Pinsky:] Yeah, we`re splitting hairs here. Fortunately, we don`t get to make we don`t make those decisions. Now, I want to sort of phone in on something that detectives reported that caught my attention, and that was her calm demeanor when she told the entire story. Casey, that doesn`t get your attention at all? I would think a 14-year-old who is a product of abuse would be emotionally all over the place as opposed to calculated and not anxious.
[Jordan:] I know but but they can become they can become very crusted over from dealing and suppressing emotions. Listen, I think the number one thing this girl needs is a psych evaluation before she even goes to adult prison.
[Pinsky:] Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
[Jordan:] But beyond that, what you got is a girl who might be suppressing emotions. She may not lack emotions. She may not have remorse or lack of remorse. She may simply not be able to tap into it. I really think the missing linchpin here is why is she obsessed with her brother.
[Unidentified Female:] Right.
[Jordan:] Why is she trying to make this girl move away, as far away as possible. She said she didn`t really want to kill her, but wanted to scare her. And this girl is obsessed with her brother in a very unnatural way, and you really need to figure out what happened to her that makes her want to get rid of the girlfriend.
[Azari:] Are you are you insinuating that the brother may have abused her?
[Pinsky:] Or the or the girl?
[Azari:] Like she had a relationship with brother?
[Jordan:] I don`t know that I`m insinuating it. I I think that any good psych eval will look into that possibility. Where does the obsession come from?
[Pinksy:] So what what mitigates you`re calling her a psychopath is the obsession and stalking and the fact that we have no...
[Jordan:] And jealousy.
[Pinksy:] ... and no antecedent history of things like setting fires and harming animals. Reasonable. We`re gonna keep this going.
[Jordan:] The mother says there`s no sign. Yeah.
[Pinsky:] Later. Well, you know how that goes. And later, the most dangerous game ever. We`ve got an update on Pokemon Go. Did parents abandon a baby in order to go after a Pokemon character? Back after this.