[Baldwin:] As many of the Republican establishments continue to try to, you know, figure out a way to ultimately support the presumptive nominee, Donald Trump, the candidate is hitting the books this week. CNN has just learned presumptive nominee is due to meet tomorrow with former secretary of state Henry Kissinger presumably to develop his foreign policy agenda. Meantime, top aides to Mr. Trump and House Speaker Paul Ryan are due to meet this week to hash out the party platform. But where does Donald Trump stand on issue like abortion, immigration, guns, especially in comparison with the Republican Party platform? For that, Tomorrow Foreman is going to walk us through it. Hi, Tom.
[Tom Foreman, Cnn Correspondent:] Hi, Brooke. It's kind of hard to sometimes pin down where Donald Trump is between the conservative orthodoxy and liberal orthodoxy. But look at several issues here and let's consider. On taxes he seems to fit pretty firmly up here into the conservative side. For a period of time, you might have put him more down here because he was talking about more taxes on the wealthy. Now, though, he seems to have cheated more up this way to say firmly on the conservative views. Immigration, we know, he started way up here and he has stayed there. So far, into this area that even some conservatives are uncomfortable with his views on that. LGBT issues. This is a tricky one because in Donald Trump's life he has fit very neatly in some ways into the more liberal camp, he's been involved with numerous fund-raisers for AIDS Research. He has been very open in his relationships and friendships and welcomingness of gay and lesbian couples and all these rights. However, you got to move it up here and you have to recognize the concern of many LGBT people because even though he says the courts have ruled on same-sex marriage, he says he still thinks marriage is between a man and a woman, so we have to move it more toward the conservative side to be sure. Abortion, also a little bit complicated here. He one time said he felt that abortion rights should be guaranteed across the board. Now he says, they should not be, and yet, he continues to say positive things now and things about planned parenthood which very much concerns conservatives. We have to put sort of in this area. Entitlement programs. This also an interesting area because he has basically said he doesn't want to touch entitlements. That moves him out of the position of conservatives, more into the liberal side. However, he has allowed, once elected maybe, maybe there will be some fudging on that so we put that more in this category. On gun control, yes, very much on the conservative side. He not only feels that gun rights, the Second Amendments rights should be completely protected. He believes things like concealed carry laws should apply across the country. So if you have a concealed carry law somewhere, you can go wherever you want with it. Not a perfect measurement, Brooke, but it gives you an idea of where he actually fits in his ever-changing stances between conservative and liberal views.
[Baldwin:] Thank you for walking through the key issues. Tom Foreman, I appreciate that. In the meantime, its website bio says it brings together the country's most influential conservative leaders, but its membership has been a secret until now. CNN has obtained a copy of the Council for National Policy's membership list and directory. This group is an umbrella in that work of conservative activists and our Chief Washington Correspondent host of "THE LEAD" and "STATE OF THE UNION" Jake Tapper with me now with exclusive reporting on this secret group of conservatives slow walking.
[Jake Tapper, Cnn Host, "the Lead":] Yeah. Slow walking their way to Donald Trump support. Look, a lot of these grassroots conservatives had serious concerns about Donald Trump and how legitimately conservative he is. But they are slow walking in the words of one of them, Ken Blackwell, former secretary of state of Ohio, slow walking towards support for Donald Trump. And we got our hands on a copy of this membership directory which has been secret the holy grail for political reporters for years and years because nobody has known who the members of this group were, but we got our hands on a copy, I got my hands on a copy, and with us, Stephen Collinson, one of our great reporter at cnn.com. We started calling some of them and there are some holdouts amongst this group who will never support Donald Trump, they just do not buy it. But, most of them are making peace with it. They supported Ted Cruz a vast majority of them during the primaries, but they dislike Hillary Clinton much, much more than they dislike Donald trump and they feel like Donald Trump and they feel like Donald Trump will likely support the kind of Supreme Court justices and at least be at least somewhat aligned more so than Hillary Clinton.
[Baldwin:] But on some of the holdouts looks, I was reading a piece this morning talking about looking ahead to Cleveland and how, you know, they're looking into some conservatives looking into last- ditch efforts, changing the rules, discussion of unbinding delegates, you know, whatever they can do to stop this.
[Tapper:] Yeah, that's where The Washington Post report in this morning and great report. We did not find the same level of discontent.
[Baldwin:] You didn't?
[Tapper:] We didn't find any people strategizing. Everybody, pretty much, accepted the fact that Donald Trump was going to be the Republican nominee in terms of whom we spoke with. But, those who were against him will probably just vote third party or not vote at all, certainly not going to go through Hillary Clinton. These are very, very die hard conservative activists. But, the ones in The Washington Post story that I read about, they are still hoping upon hope that they will be able to prevent Donald Trump from getting the nomination.
[Baldwin:] Tapper, what point are they going to say, okay, it's Trump?
[Tapper:] Yeah. In some ways they're almost like those Japanese soldiers found on those islands a couple years after World War II who did not know, did not realize that the war was over and they have lost. That is the case. The republican party is coalescing around Donald Trump. Speaking Paul Ryan is not there right now, but I suspect very strongly that he will be before he gravels in the convention in Cleveland and I do think that you're going to see the Republican Party come around him regardless of the dreams and aspirations of these boys and girls out there with dreams of stopping Donald Trump. I don't think it's going to happen.
[Baldwin:] Jake Tapper, we'll see you, special coverage top of the hour on The Lead. Thank you.
[Tapper:] Thank you.
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