[Cupp:] Third time is a charm? Former vice President Joe Biden is seriously considering a 2020 run, all signs point to yes. According to the "Associated Press," Biden's advisers have floated the idea of teaming up with a younger running mate like Beto O'Rourke. And Biden will reportedly meet with his family over the next several weeks to discuss running. He has been making the rounds on the speaking circuit as well, even telling the Montana crowd this month that he is the most qualified person in the country to be President. Now, he could be in a good position too. According to a new CNN poll, Biden is currently the favorite among Democratic voters by a wide margin as a 2020 Presidential candidate. Thirty percent say they would support his nomination. Vermont senator Bernie Sanders came at second at 14. Beto O'Rourke may gains at nine. President Trump has already weighed in on what he thinks of that match-up.
[Trump:] I dream about Biden. That's a dream. Look, Joe Biden ran three times. He never got more than one percent. And President Obama took him out of the garbage heap and everyone was shocked that he did. I would love to have it be Biden.
[Cupp:] Well, I want to turn now to a man who knows Joe Biden very well. His former 2012 campaign deputy chief of staff, Scott Mulhauser. So is he running?
[Scott Mullhauser, Former Deputy Chief Of Staff, Vp Biden 2012 Campaign:] First, thanks for having me,
[S.e. Cupp:] Break some news.
[Mullhauser:] So I think one of the best things about the vice President is that he is pretty similar in private and public. And what he says he is going to take time with the family and think about it.
[Cupp:] He really is.
[Mullhauser:] But that said, I think you look at the recent piece in "the Atlantic" last week where voters were not only encouraging and asking him to run, they were demanding it.
[Cupp:] Yes.
[Mullhauser:] And it was folks from California and across the Rust Belt. And it was Democrats and Republicans. So I think you have to hear that and you have to think about it and say, it's hard not to at least contemplate it.
[Cupp:] Yes. So what about this Biden-Beto ticket? I mean, it sounds good, catchy. Its literative spans generation.
[Mullhauser:] Exactly.
[Cupp:] But two white guys? I mean, if you are a Democrat and you are looking at that and you look back at what happened in 2018, you are saying are you kidding me? Come on, guys.
[Mullhauser:] I think one of the lessons that comes out of the midterms is that voters clearly want authenticity which the vice president and the congressman have in space. And I think they both get along well. I think we learn is that the candidate like Beto and like Stacey Abrams and like Andrew Gillum, even when you lose a close race, there is resonates. And so, that is how I think they get along well. Do I think it is might too early for VP speculation? And you know, without anyone in the race yet and without the nominee, it sure is.
[Cupp:] OK. Well, whoever runs against the President will have to be prepared for Trump's blistering attacks. In fact, my colleague, Van Jones, just asked Kristin Gillibrand about that earlier interview that's going to run following us. So stick around and watch that. Here's what Gillibrand said about that.
[Van Jones, Cnn Host, Van Jones Show:] You fought right back. Is that kind of nastiness though a deterrent for you to get in this race?
[Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand , New York:] No. I'm not afraid of him. And I'm not afraid his nasty language and his name calling.
[Cupp:] You know, Biden famously said he would like to take Trump behind the gym and beat the hell out of him. I think he would be up for the task, but is that what the country wants to see, two 70- something guys swinging fists around? Yes.
[Mullhauser:] Look. I think what voters want right now, particularly Democrats, is a contrast to what they are seeing in Washington. And I think that authenticity we talk about, and there is a resonance to what he is talking about, the sort of the populous message he is carrying.
[Cupp:] Yes.
[Mullhauser:] I mean, you think about what Democratic voters want. And I'm not sure they know. And so, what we are going to see is this long drawn out protracted miserable but sort of fun -.
[Cupp:] Fun?
[Mullhauser:] Sort of fun battle right over the next several months that are part of the year. And I think he is going to be a part of that. Whether it's a candidate or someone who sort of, you know, stands on behalf of others and jumps in the fray either way.
[Cupp:] So what about Me Too? A lot has changed since Anita Hill. The Clintons have not been able to navigate me too very well. Do you think Biden is prepared for this, you know, new world?
[Mullhauser:] He is a vice president. If you look from the work in his Senate career on through his time as vice president, and now his found his foundation, he was the author of the violence against women act and he takes these issues seriously. They are one of the pillars on his foundation work too.
[Cupp:] OK.
[Mullhauser:] And I think he is a guy who has been pretty darn progressive his whole life and he stood up for his values and for these moments. And I think we will see where it goes but I think he is ready to be a part of this conversation and make sure those issues stay front and center.
[Cupp:] Quickly, can he win a primary? I mean, that would be my concern. Because as you say, he has got sort of a populous message and that party is moving very far left, can he prove his progressive bona fides when he is up against someone like Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders?
[Mullhauser:] I think there's a Sanders wing of the party that will be further left that anyone.
[Cupp:] Yes.
[Mullhauser:] And I think that but, you know, is that where the bulk of the party is? We will see. I think when you look at his record, while there's populism, there is sticking up for middle class voters. There is also pretty forward leaning pieces from
[Lgbtq. Cupp:] Gay marriage, for sure. Right.
[Mullhauser:] He was out there earlier and I remember that was certainly controversial. I was there at the time and it was tough.
[Cupp:] It was welcomed for a lot of us who have defended gay rights. It was a nice moment.
[Mullhauser:] Yes. It was pretty special but he is taking on those fights. He has not been afraid to do it again.
[Cupp:] Scott Mullhauser, great insight. We will have to have you back because I have a feeling he might actually do it. Thanks.
[Mullhauser:] Thanks.
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