[Baldwin:] We are back. You're watching CNN. I'm Brooke Baldwin. Authorities are investigating yet another suspicious package. This one addressed to the CNN world headquarters in Atlanta. The package was intercepted at a post office near the CNN center today and appears identical to other mailings. Investigators believe it was sent by a serial bomb suspect who is in a federal courtroom in Florida right this very moment. The 56-year-old man is already accused of mailing more than a dozen pipe bombs or IEDs as the head of the FBI referred to it last Friday to two former Presidents and several other prominent Democrats, critical of President Trump, as well as the media. Law enforcement sources now telling CNN the list the suspect, rather, had a list of more than 100 people to whom he intended to send these packages. Investigators are now reaching out to alert those people on the so-called hit list. So, let's go to Miami, where we find joe Johns upside that Miami courthouse where the suspect is making his very first appearance. Joe, tell me about what's happening in this hearing.
[Joe Johns, Cnn Justice Reporter:] This is all about due process in the first place, Brooke. I think he's going to be advised of his rights. He's going to be advised of the complaint that was filed against him on Friday, in the Southern District of New York. And there's going to be questions about an attorney for him. We do know that an attorney from Ft. Lauderdale, just north of here, is expected to put in an appearance for him. We also know that the Feds want to get Sayoc out and up to New York, where five of those packages actually were addressed, as well as where that complaint was filed by the United States prosecutor there. The question is, how long will that process take? It could be a very short process or it could take a little longer. So those are the kinds of things we're going to find out here in court today, as Sayoc makes his first appearance before a federal judge. Federal magistrate I should say.
[Baldwin:] Stay in close contact with you, Joe Johns. Thank you very much in Miami. We are also following another attack seemingly fueled by hate in Kentucky. A white man is charged with killing two African- Americans last week at a grocery store near Louisville. Police say just moments before the shooting, the suspect was seen on surveillance video, trying to get into a predominantly black church. So, for more on this, let's go to Ryan Young in Jeffersontown, Kentucky. And Ryan, tell me more about what happened at that grocery store.
[Ryan Young, Cnn National Correspondent:] Well, Brooke, as you well, as you can understand, there are people in this community who feel like this case is not getting enough attention. And in fact, they believe that Gregory Bush was trying to get into the First Baptist Church, which is just down the street from where we are, and he couldn't get in. In fact, someone was getting in the parking lot watching him try to violently open the doors. He just could not get in. And then he ended up in the Kroger that's behind me. And that's where this story takes a disastrous turn. He walked in and trained his gun on a man who was standing there with his grandson and he opened fire and killed Maurice Stallard right there in front of his grandson. They were there to buy school supplies when this happened. He then ran outside into the parking lot, according to authorities, and shot Vickie Jones, killing her in the parking lot, as well. And that's when another man with a gun approached and tried to stop this shooting, and there was an exchange of gunfire at that point. So, you can understand why people are upset in this community, because they're trying to figure out exactly what happened. In fact, there was a vigil here in the parking lot at one point, and people were asking questions about why would this happen here? They want to know how this is going to move forward later on, especially whether or not he's going to face hate crime charges.
[Baldwin:] You know, I remember, Ryan, when we were when I was reading about this last week, as it happened on Wednesday, and you tell me, but apparently when he was in the Kroger, thank goodness, unsuccessfully, you know, not able to get into that church, someone else was heard saying or he was heard saying, you know, "whites don't shoot whites." This seems entirely targeted.
[Young:] It is. And that's something we've been trying to confirm ourselves, trying to talk to that witness. And haven't officially confirmed that, but obviously, that has been spreading throughout this community. Had a man stop by to talk to us earlier and said, look, this doesn't happen in this community. And even some of the workers here say, if you're not safe at the Kroger, where are you safe? You understand people having that desperation, but then you think, another house of worship, the First Baptist Church, just up the street had a bunch of people on the inside, he was trying to get in and he couldn't get in. Thank goodness those doors were locked.
[Baldwin:] Thank goodness. Ryan Young in Kentucky, thank you. What is going on in America? Let's have that conversation. With me now, Randy Blazak, the chairman of the Oregon Coalition Against Hate Crimes. He's been studying hate crime for more than 30 years. Randy, Ryan was talking about what happened in Kentucky. We've been talking about the attacks on people because of the color of their skin, the place they worship, and the political views they hold. What is happening?
[Randy Blazak, Sociology Professor, Hate Crime Researcher, Chairman Of The Oregon Coalition Against Hate Crimes:] Yes, frightening. It's just sort of gut wrenching. As somebody who studies this academically, I have to remember there's a real human cost associated with this. And you know, I think one of the reference points we should be thinking about is the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995. A lot of people are unaware that McVeigh was trying to start a race war in America. He believed in these anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, fueled by a book called "The Turner Diaries." It's about racial patriots overthrowing the government and purging it of the sort of global Jewish cabal that they believe runs the world. And we're just seeing the latest manifestation of that thinking. It's nothing new, but it's just been intensified over the last few years. And there is this rhetoric in this country that's happening on the extreme right about a second American revolution or a civil war. And that more carnage like this is coming. So those of us that study this think that we've probably got more of this ahead of us.
[Baldwin:] I hope your studies are wrong. I hope, I hope, I hope. But the fact that you said that you've seen more of this, and you point to the rhetoric, and you point to the far right. Can you pinpoint what is causing this uptick in violence?
[Blazak:] It's always been there. It's something that goes back, these conspiracy theories and the beliefs that the government is controlled by alien influences. But what we're seeing right now, and of course, you have to talk about the role the President plays in this is a magnification of two things. One is the rhetoric about enemies, us versus them. Instead of us together, we have enemies, including within our government, including the media, including Democrats. You know all of these people are sort of listed as enemies. So, there's more of that polarity, of that binary thinking. But the other part of it is this conspiratorial thinking that used to be something on the fringes. When people talked about Roswell, New Mexico, or who killed JFK, now this conspiratorial thinking, thanks to the internet, and largely thanks to the bully pulpit the President has, have become mainstream. The conspiracy theories about the caravan or about global warming or about who's controlling the media, who's controlling the federal reserve. We've seen all of this before, but it never has seemed so legitimate and mainstream that it has now. So, there is this bleed-over effect into mainstream political discourse. When I started doing this 30 years ago, I was studying a relatively small subculture on the political fringes of America. And now I'm talking about masses of people who are buying into this way of anything.
[Baldwin:] I wanted to ask you about Charlottesville, you know, as part of our special coverage on Saturday night and the head of the ADL brought it up to me and he reminded me, you know, the violence last august sort of almost lost in the unrest and the racial component and the death of certainly Heather Heyer, there was the chanting, Jews will not replace us. And of course, you brought up Trump, you know, the "both sides" comment. But, you know, anti-Semitism was front and center and hate is nothing new for Jews.
[Blazak:] Yes, and that's why this community has to be feeling an incredible level of anxiety right now. There's a reason we call hate crimes acts of terror. They are meant to terrorize entire communities. They aren't the same as all crimes. I get so frustrated when people say that all crimes are hate crimes. These are crimes that are meant to create discord and fear and anxiety in large groups of people. And we've seen that this week. So, it really has that impact. And that's why it takes leadership. And I'm just going to say, it takes real leadership to understand what the threat level is and what is happening to this country. And I think we're clamoring for a leader who sort of understands the depth of this and doesn't just go back into the old rhetoric of us versus them and really brings us together, because that's what this country needs.
[Baldwin:] We are about to get the first White House press briefing in just about a month. And you know, you talk about real leadership. What needs to be said to help stop this?
[Blazak:] Yes, well, it's kind of an uphill battle for the President. He's dug himself such a deep hole. But there has to be a recognition of how real the threat is and how we are all, us, all of us, included in the blame game that, instead of blaming them, we have to kind of look at our own role in it and the President has to be willing to take a look at his role in it and have that honest discussion about how we, all of us Americans, participate in this divisiveness and it's time for it to change. And I would really billion impressed if he could say, look, I've been participating in this divisive rhetoric
[Baldwin:] Randy, I'm going to cut you off. Thank you very much. Here's Sarah Sanders at the White House.
[Sarah Sanders, White House Press Secretary:] as you know, the shooter is in custody and the FBI is on the scene leading the investigation with the support of state and local law enforcement. This atrocity was a chilling act of mass murder, it was an act of hatred, and above all, it was an act of evil. Anti-Semitism is a plague to humanity and it is responsible for many of the worst horrors in human history. We all have a duty to confront anti-Semitism in all its forms and everywhere and anywhere it appears. The American people reject hatred, bigotry, prejudice and violence. We are a nation that believes in religious liberty, tolerance, and respect. And we are a people who cherish the dignity of every human life. Today, America grieves for the precious lives that were cruelly stolen. Our hearts ache for every person who lost a loved one. The 11 Jewish Americans who were horribly murdered represented the very best of our nation. They were brothers and sisters who looked out for each other, they were doctors who cared for citizens in need. They were proud grandparents who taught their grandchildren to value faith, family, and country. And they were the religious heart of the tree of life community. Our nation mourns the loss of these extraordinary Americans, and we also pray for those who were wounded. Our hearts are with the four brave police officers who were shot and injured while trying to stop the attack. We thank god for these officers and for every member of law enforcement who responded swiftly and bravely. In the wake of the attack, we have witnessed Americans of every faith and tradition coming together to mourn with their fellow citizens, to support one another, and to stand in solidarity with America's Jewish community. The President cherishes the American Jewish community for everything it stands for and contributes to our country. He adores Jewish Americans as part of his own family. The President is the grandfather of several Jewish grandchildren. His daughter is a Jewish American and his son-in-law is a descendant of holocaust survivors. Tomorrow, the President and first lady will travel to Pennsylvania to express the support of the American people and grieve with the Pittsburgh community. And with that, I will take your questions. John?