[Allen:] Welcome back to our viewers here in the U.S. and around the world. We're taking you, now, live to Portland, Oregon, where people are protesting. They are outside the capital building there. It seems to be mostly peaceful. But we're keeping an eye on what's going on here.
[Vause:] Now major American cities are under curfew right now after the seventh night of demonstrations against police brutality
[Allen:] Some of the day's most dramatic moments happened in Washington. All of these people broke curfew, after President Trump threatened military force in states that refused to take action against lawlessness. Yet, as you can see here, force was shockingly used on peaceful protesters just outside the White House. They were hit with teargas and rubber bullets all so President Trump could walk across the street for a photo op. He stood in front of the historic St. John's Church, the Church of the Presidents, it's called, which was damaged by fire Sunday, and he held up a Bible. The Episcopal Bishop of Washington who oversees that church says she is outraged by the visit. New York City has been a flashpoint for protests that have turned violence, stores have been looted. There was an 11:00 p.m. curfew that has clearly been broken. Let's go to our Brian Stelter. He's been on the scene of the looting in New York. Such a sad, tragic side note to what otherwise our people trying to make a difference with protests.
[Brian Stelter, Cnn Chief Media Correspondent:] That's right. Every night after dark, it's been a little bit different here in Manhattan. One night, it was lower Manhattan near Wall Street, the next night it was SoHo. We all saw the photos from that neighborhood, that fashion neighborhood in New York. In the last few hours, the looting and vandalism has been concentrated in Midtown Manhattan, Park Avenue, Madison Avenue, Fifth Avenue, Herald Square, Times Square. These are internationally recognizable names and symbols. I was out earlier in the evening, I'm now back home, of course, during the pandemic, many of us working from home, and one of the strange sites about this situation is that during a pandemic, many of these businesses are already closed. So we're talking about retailers and banks that are already closed, and now they are also boarded up due to this violence. Everywhere from 59th Street near Trump Tower on the east side of Manhattan to 34th Street near Macy's, we have seen widespread looting in the past few hours. This was before the curfew took effect at 11:00 p.m. Eastern Time. Some of these accidents continued after the curfew took effect as well. Macy's for example, the flagship Macy's store was broken into even though there were plywood boards up on the walls. Look, I don't want to overstate what has happened. Many parts of New York City and Manhattan and the rest of the boroughs are calm right now and have remained calm for days, but there's a lot of property damage. And as many there are so many peaceful protesters who are marching on the streets, even the late hours trying to speak out about the I Can't Breathe movement, but I fear that their message is being overshadowed by these opportunists who are breaking into businesses, stealing whatever they can, and then running away as fast as they can.
[Allen:] And Brian, how are they staying ahead of the police? Ha1ve there been arrests?
[Stelter:] From what I've witnessed earlier in the evening, it's a cat and mouse game. Police officers trying to show up as soon as they see outbreaks of violence, as soon as they see outbreaks of vandalism. But then you see these groups of young people running away or jumping into cars or jumping onto bikes and go into the next place. The police sometimes do seem outnumbered and that's going to be question for the mayor and the governor and other local officials. And not just in New York, by the way. We have seen new reports of looting in other cities in the United States tonight, including in California, we have seen outbreaks of fires and shootings in St. Louis. I think by some metrics, this does seem slightly less widespread than it was on Saturday and Sunday night weekends in the United States. But look, there are so many people out of work, so many people out of their usual routines in the summertime amid a pandemic. I think there's a real fear that we're going to continue to see these outbursts in various cities, both large cities like New York City and smaller communities as well. You know, we see mostly relatively small, you know, disturbances, lootings of malls and things to that degree, but this is still the most widespread experience of civil unrest in the U.S. since the 1960s. And whatever rhetoric we heard from Washington earlier today clearly has not trickled down to the streets.
[Allen:] All right, Brian Stelter for us. We appreciate your reporting, Brian. Thanks so much. Now over to you, John.
[John Vause, Cnn International Anchor:] Natalie, thank you. Well, Cheryl Dorsey is a retired Los Angeles police sergeant, author of Black and Blue. And she's with us this late hour in Los Angeles. Thank you so much for joining us, Cheryl. Clearly, it seems that 11:00 p.m. curfew in New York didn't work. It didn't stop the looting, it didn't stop the vandalism. The plan for Tuesday is an 8:00 p.m. curfew. Will that really make a difference when you consider the vandalism the looting began I think what, 7:30 p.m. on Monday?
[Cheryl Dorsey, Retired Los Angeles Police Sergeant:] I don't think the hour is going to have much of an impact. And I'm not even sure I'm hearing on my social media platforms if folks want the other three officers arrested. I don't think even that is going to calm folks down. This has been a long time coming. Nothing much changed after the 1992 riots, 2014 riots in Ferguson. And so unless and until police departments start holding police officers accountable, we're going to continue to see, I'm afraid, these kinds of outbursts.
[Vause:] You mentioned the fact that the other three arresting officers have not been arrested at this point. I want you to listen to Minnesota's Attorney General who's now overseeing their case. He spoke to CNN a few hours ago.
[Keith Ellison, Attorney General, Minnesota:] I want to assure everybody that we are looking very carefully at holding everybody accountable, who failed to do their duty below and fell below the legal requirements of their position or did something affirmatively that would be in violation of the law.
[Vause:] OK, so action seems pending. He won't say exactly what. But if the roles were reversed here, a black man had his knee on the neck of a white police officer who was killed while three of the black man's colleagues did nothing to stop it, would they be in jail by now?
[Dorsey:] You already know. Absolutely. And listen, I understand this is precarious and they're only going to get one bite at the apple in terms of prosecution, so they want to have their ducks in a row. I get that. Procedurally, if they don't have everything in order, they could have to release the three officers and then start all over. And that in and of itself would be problematic. But listen, when we hear accountability, what does that mean? Because true accountability is way down the road. We first have to get charges, then there's going to have to be a trial, and ultimately, a conviction would be hoped for. And then what does this sentence like? So accountability, if it's a real thing, is not going to happen for many, many months. I pray that these protests don't continue until we get a sentence in the case of the death, the murder of George Floyd.
[Vause:] The other extreme that we're seeing here apart from you know, with the vandalism, and the looting has been the actions of law enforcement in Washington. You had peaceful protesters who were set upon with tear gas, flashbangs, that kind of stuff, essentially though, cleared out of the way for photo opportunity for the President. Is that actually legal? Are there guidelines or policy for the use non-lethal crowd control measures? And what's the onus on the individual law officers not to follow that kind of directive?
[Dorsey:] Well, listen, when you have a president who's soulless, who has no moral compass, and is incapable of empathy and compassion for others, who's all about himself, while it may be lawless, haven't we seen him for pretty much four years, break laws and do things that are contrary to our democracy and what's right, just on a human level. And so, how do you tell a president no, when you have a 12-year-old who sits in the White House?
[Vause:] Well, lastly, I want you to listen to the brother of George Floyd, Terrence, who actually called for peaceful protests and no more violence. Here he is.
[Terrence Floyd, Brother Of George Floyd:] In every case of police brutality, the same thing has been happening. You all protests, you all destroy stuff, and if they don't move, let's switch it up.
[Unidentified Male:] Amen.
[Floyd:] Do this peacefully. Please. I know he would not want you all to be doing this.
[Vause:] It does seem to be a stark contrast. You have the family of the victim who's calling for peaceful protests, while the president seems to trying to escalate the confrontations.
[Dorsey:] And so while you know, protests have their role in all of this, at the end of the day, these young people need to have an endgame. And the endgame is going to be going to the ballot box. Every police chief serves at the pleasure of a mayor. Politicians understand votes. And so, if you want to change, then you're going to have to not only once you bring attention to a matter, you're going to have to actively get involved and engaged to bring about that change.
[Vause:] Cheryl Dorsey, it's been a pleasure to have you with us. Thank you for your time. Thank you for being with us.
[Dorsey:] Thank you.
[Vause:] Well, Facebook employees stage a virtual walkout on Monday angered by CEO Mark Zuckerberg who has refused to take down controversial posts from the U.S. president. Zuckerberg says he has a visceral negative reaction to Trump's statements but argues Facebook is committed to free expression. Not all of his employees support him. Many working from home, they took the day off at protest. Some posted their unhappiness on Twitter. One employee say, I'm not proud of how we're showing up. Other the major corporations are taking a stand with some donating millions of dollars to civil rights groups like Black Lives Matter. Others are making public statements of support. CNN's John Defterios is live in Abu Dhabi with the latest on this. And you know, what's interesting, John, there was a time when major corporations would run a mile from doing anything like this. They'll worry about bad press, some kind of you know, blowback, consumer anger. The fact that so many of the biggest corporations are choosing a side says a lot.
[John Defterios, Cnn Business Emerging Markets Editor:] It does say a lot, John. And I think the response has been as widespread as the cities that we see in the United States from literally Main Street to Wall Street. You mentioned Facebook, and I think there's a reason for these companies to be on the front foot to be responsive as leaders in social media and even the traditional media companies like Disney or a parent company, Warner Media. But internally, there's a lot of pressures we see at Facebook. And we saw the same thing with Uber during the early stages of the pandemic to protect their drivers. So the pressure from the workforce is getting many of these leaders to come forward. Dow Chemical for example, a major player in petrochemical says it wants to be the most diversified workforce in its sector. We see banks, Goldman Sachs, Black Rock, Citygroup all questioning the racial bias that we see in America. The CFO of Citygroup is black and said, we shouldn't have a case where people are scared on the street. Twitter again, another Silicon Valley company said by 2025, a quarter of its workforce will be represented by minorities going forward. And most tried to steer out of the politics, John. This is what I thought was interesting here, but not from the cloud group Box where its CEO said, Aaron Levie, and I'm quoting him here, that "Donald Trump has no ability to help this nation heal. And he says, he's been stoking the flames with his lack of response and the hardline on the police front as well. And I was thinking back, can this provide the actual change going forward? I covered the 1992 riots in Los Angeles, and I'm from that city, and there was a lot of change, a lot of investment going into the inner cities. Was it sustainable? And the answer is no. Bob Iger and his team from Disney, the big media giant was suggesting, because of the COVID-19, and now having this widespread action by people on the street, it's opening up all the sore wounds in America, and he thinks that actually this is a moment for change. And people are even talking about reconciliation commissions going forward, something that we saw in South Africa and Rwanda. Could you see that in America? I don't, John, but this is the call from corporate America right now.
[Vause:] Interesting point there, John. I don't see it either, but I guess, you know, stranger things have happened. John Defterios live in Abu Dhabi. Thanks, John. Good to see you.
[Allen:] Well, they did it in South Africa and it worked. We'll see, guys. Well as the protests rage across the U.S., health experts fear the coronavirus is being forgotten. Next here, the concerns they're raising about these mass gatherings at this time.