[Jeffrey Toobin, Cnn Chief Legal Analyst:] Well, even William Barr, the attorney general, who is usually very differential to the president, has said he thinks it was an appropriate prosecution. He think the the revised sentence that the that Judge Berman imposed was correct. So this would not just be swampy, it would be against the wishes of his usually subservient attorney general. That's how outrageous a pardon or a commutation would be of Roger Stone.
[John Berman, Cnn Anchor:] But there's every reason to believe it's coming. Let's just be clear. The president is hinting at it and it will probably come in the next few days if we take the president at his word here because Roger Stone, the Justice Department wants him to report to prison on Tuesday.
[Toobin:] I don't see how you could interpret the president's words as anything other than a commutation or pardon is imminent. And Roger Stone will never spend a day in jail because he's the president's friend, period.
[Alisyn Camerota, Cnn Anchor:] Jeffery, the president, last night, was on "Hannity" and he was bragging about this cognitive test that he recently took. We don't know why he took it. We don't know the results of it. He claims he aced it. Sorry, that's a funny word for a cognitive test. In any event, when you hear his answer to this next question about the IRS audit, you will have reason to wonder if he actually aced a cognitive test. Listen to what he tries to say about whether or not he's still under audit.
[Donald Trump, President Of The United States:] And I'm under tax audit. I have been for a long period of time. We made a deal a long time ago and once I ran for politics, that deal was like we didn't make it. So I'm under a continuing audit. And anybody that did that or showed that before you have it finalized, but they treat they treat me horribly, the IRS, horribly. It's a disgrace what's happened. We had a deal done. In fact it was I guess it was signed even. And once I ran or once I won or somewhere back a long time ago, everything was like, well, let's start all over again.
[Camerota:] What was he saying there, Jeffrey?
[Toobin:] You know, Alisyn, I've spoken English since I was a little boy, and I I think I'm fluent, but but I don't understand one word in that that answer. So you tell me. I have no idea. I mean the what he's saying is he's still not releasing his tax returns. That's what he's saying. But that statement was complexly meaningless as far as I can tell.
[Berman:] I think there's an attack there on the government, which he is the figurehead of at this point. I've there was that. There was some lie about why he hasn't turned over his taxes already, which he could do even if he is under audit. That seemed to be in there as well. First of all, all of this, and the
[Toobin:] Right.
[Berman:] A major ruling. A major ruling. A landmark ruling on presidential rights and power, but one that may not have an imminent impact on this president, this president. Can you explain?
[Toobin:] Well, I think it's it's helpful to divide the two cases that were divided that were decided yesterday and treat them separately. In the case of the subpoena by the New York City District Attorney, the Manhattan D.A., Cyrus Vance. Vance won that. Vance is going to get the president's tax returns and various financial documents from his accountant. When he gets it is not settled, and those documents will not be made public. That's part of a secret grand jury investigation. But there is no doubt that that that case, that investigation, will go forward. Whether it results in any charges, I don't know. The president did better in the congressional case. That case was sent back for more proceedings and it's not at all clear that Congress will ever get the financial documents it's seeking. And it certainly will not get them before the election. But the both cases were a clear statement that the president of the United States is not above the law and can be investigated. But because these cases took so long to get through the judicial system, the president is safe from disclosure, so he will again face the voters without having released his tax returns, as the only candidate who have done so in the modern era.
[Camerota:] I mean, generally we were looking back at the research, and, generally, if you're audited, the general resolution time is three years. That has passed since the president claims, without offering any evidence, that he's being audited. It can last longer. But, again, everybody's just having to take him at his word, and his word is, as you point out, often unintelligible on that subject, Jeffrey.
[Toobin:] It certainly was yesterday.
[Camerota:] Jeffrey Toobin, thank you.
[Toobin:] All right.
[Berman:] So, new this morning, Senator Tammy Duckworth, a Purple Heart recipient who lose her legs in Iraq, fighting back against Fox host Tucker Carlson and President Trump after Carlson said she, quote, hates America for saying there should be a national dialogue about removing statues of the founding fathers. Duckworth wrote an op-ed in "The New York Times" and said she will not be deterred by, quote, self-serving, insecure men who can't tell the difference between true patriotism and hateful nationalism. She noted, while I would put on my old uniform and go to war all over again to protect the right of Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump to say offensive things on TV and Twitter, I will also spend every moment I can, from now until November, fighting to elect leaders who would rather do good for their country than do well for themselves. So, after closing for 116 days, Walt Disney World reopening to the public tomorrow, even though coronavirus cases are soaring in Florida. We have details and a live report, next.