[Chris Cillizza, Cnn Political Reporter & Cnn Editor-at-large:] OK, did not give a green light. Let's go to the official White House statement. OK, here we go, statement from the press secretary October 6th. "The United States armed forces will not support or be involved in the operation. The United States armed forces having defeated the caliphate, will no longer be in the immediate area." If not directly contradictory, certainly not incoordination. Now, do another one, Brooke. Here is Mike Pence talking about whether Erdogan, head of Turkey, will be coming to the White House later this fall. Play that.
[Mike Pence, Vice President Of The United States:] There's been no decision made about a scheduled meeting next month. But
[Pence:] Well, let me say the president could not have been more firm with President Erdogan.
[Cillizza:] Got it. So no decision has been made. Just want to, for context, Donald Trump, October 8th also remember importantly Turkey is in good standing of NATO, "He, Erdogan, is coming to the U.S. as my guest in November 13th. Yes, anyway, Brooke, two examples.
[Brooke Baldwin, Cnn:] What about since the phone call with Erdogan and the violence that's erupted, what about the messaging there?
[Cillizza:] Right. OK now we have another example of mixed messaging. Again, Pence on one hand, Trump on the other. Go to Pence first.
[Pence:] And opportunities for us to bring troops home and to have American forces come out of harm's way has always been a priority for this president. But that didn't mean that this president, in any way, in any way, encourages violence anywhere in the world, let alone along the border between Turkey and Syria.
[Cillizza:] OK. Now, again, Donald Trump tweets October 14th, two this is "Anyone who wants to assist Syria for protecting the Kurds is good with me, whether Russia, China or Napoleon Bonaparte. I hope they all do great. We are sitting 7,000 miles away." Some people want to protect 7,000 miles away border in Syria. Are we protecting Syria? Do we not care? Is it a priority? Is the U.S. border more of a priority? Is Erdogan coming to visit with President Trump? Is Erdogan not? Again, these sorts of things, Brooke, you would think might happen, might happen, between the president and, let's say, a low-level cabinet person? Not between the president and the vice president who theoretically meet every week and maybe some things they should talk about are getting on the same page. The answer, quickly, is because Donald Trump changes his mind all the time. Mike Pence says something, Donald Trump undercuts him. Welcome to the Trump presidency. Brooke, back to you.
[Baldwin:] You got it. You hit the nail on the head. Chris Cillizza, thank you for all of that on the mixed messages coming out of the White House. Speaking of the White House, we have more news this afternoon on Rudy Giuliani's legal predicament, shall we call it? CNN's Michael Warren is with me now. Michael, you have scoop. What is it?
[Michael Warren, Cnn Reporter:] Right, Brooke. CNN reporting Rudy Giuliani is parting ways with his personal attorney shortly, Jon Sale. Rudy Giuliani telling CNN a few moments ago, "Jon was helping me assessing the congressional requests." That subpoena request from Giuliani, the deadline today. Giuliani continued, "He, Jon Sale, my lawyer, will submit his letter and he will be finished with what I asked him to do." Sale did not respond to multiple requests for comment here. But, Brooke, one more thing. We should note, people close to Giuliani are advising him to get a criminal attorney as questions are lingering about these two associates of his, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, who were indicted last week. Giuliani did not directly answer a question of whether he's considering getting another attorney, saying, "If they take me to court, I would then have to get another lawyer" -Brooke?
[Baldwin:] They're saying lawyer up and specifically get a criminal attorney. Michael Warren, thank you for your reporting. Tonight is the first debate. A lot has happened since the last one, the impeachment inquiry, Syrian chaos, and Bernie Sanders's heart attack. What to watch for this evening, next.