[Behar:] Donny and Marie Osmond come from one of the most successful show business families in history, and they have just released their first album together in 30 years. And it`s called "Donny and Marie." I just had to ask them how they came up with that title.
[Donny Osmond, Singer:] focus groups to come up with that name.
[Marie Osmond, Singer:] I chose all the songs and gave him the job of coming up with the name.
[D. Osmond:] Spit it out, Marie.
[M. Osmond:] Donny and Marie. Took him, you know, about six months. But he was clever.
[D. Osmond:] That is not true at all, at all. I chose all the songs.
[Behar:] You can call it, you know, Abbott and Costello, or something.
[D. Osmond:] Guess what? We just found out we`re number three on the country charts.
[M. Osmond:] Oh, I know.
[D. Osmond:] I just found that out before we went on the air. Isn`t that so cool?
[Behar:] I`m telling you.
[D. Osmond:] The last time we were on the charts was like 1847 or something like that.
[M. Osmond:] I think so. Yes. No, but it`s called good life. We were saying, we`re living the good life. We`re very happy.
[Behar:] And why so long, 30 years?
[D. Osmond:] Well, had to get her to stop playing with dolls.
[M. Osmond:] Had to get him to grow up.
[D. Osmond:] Seriously, Joy, there really wasn`t
[M. Osmond:] We were
[D. Osmond:] There was really no reason because we had our own separate careers and then this anomaly took place in Las Vegas and, you know, we had a six-week deal. Here we are three years later.
[Behar:] But you`re hot again.
[D. Osmond:] It`s unbelievable, Joy.
[M. Osmond:] I like this set. It is hot.
[Behar:] I was reading somewhere that some PR person told you that to reinvest your career, Donny, you should say you have some kind of addiction. Is that true?
[D. Osmond:] What do you think? What would happen if I did?
[Behar:] You would say no to that.
[D. Osmond:] But would it work?
[Behar:] Would people believe that you were an addict?
[D. Osmond:] Would it be a good PR stunt?
[Behar:] Well, it works for so many people?
[D. Osmond:] Exactly. But what would happen years later? How would I talk to my kids? Dad, did you really do that?
[Behar:] No, you could tell your kids it was just a PR stunt.
[D. Osmond:] I don`t I`m glad you`re not my PR lady. Let me tell you.
[M. Osmond:] This is a thinking woman.
[Behar:] And then another thing, maybe this is true of you Michael Jackson said you should change your name?
[D. Osmond:] He did.
[Behar:] To what?
[D. Osmond:] To Ralph Schwartz. Actually, I said he should change his clothes and never mind. Never mind. No, that was a joke.
[Behar:] I mean, these are the things people need to know out there. As a celebrity you get this type of advice all the time. And you have to make your own decisions.
[D. Osmond:] You`ve got to be true to yourself, Joy. You know that. I mean, everybody`s got an opinion. Everybody says you should do this, you should do that. We`re victims of that. But you know? We stand true.
[M. Osmond:] I don`t think victim is the right word.
[D. Osmond:] Well, that`s the wrong word, excuse me. We are recipients of that kind of advice, and then we just have to say I`ve got to look at myself in the mirror in the morning. I`ve got to like that person. You got to be true to yourself and that`s what we`ve done.
[Behar:] Yes. It`s like Osama bin Laden, had to look at himself in the mirror.
[D. Osmond:] Yes. He`s not doing that much anymore.
[M. Osmond:] So, how are we out there?
[Behar:] So, Marie, darling, you got married again.
[M. Osmond:] I did.
[Behar:] Congratulations.
[M. Osmond:] Thank you.
[Behar:] Now, this guy, let me just hear on the set, you were married to him, many, many moons ago.
[M. Osmond:] I was.
[Behar:] And you had a kid.
[M. Osmond:] Yes, I did.
[Behar:] The child you got divorced. Is that allowed in Mormonism to get divorced?
[M. Osmond:] It better be. I`ve been divorced a couple times.
[Behar:] Because, you know, the Catholics don`t allow it. I don`t know
[M. Osmond:] I think they do. Well, what you`re saying is in our faith we get married in the temple, which is not death do us part, it`s an eternal commitment. And so, you know, in order to receive a temple divorce, there has to be, you know, legit reasons and have it be very
[Behar:] So what were the reasons? You want to tell me?
[M. Osmond:] Not really.
[Behar:] OK. That`s fine. You can say whatever you want. But you had a child. Did you get custody of the child?
[M. Osmond:] Well, he`s 28 now.
[Behar:] But he stayed with you, the baby, the boy?
[M. Osmond:] Well, I mean, we shared in visitation and things like that. Yes.
[Behar:] OK. So, now, you`re done with that marriage for whatever reason.
[M. Osmond:] Oh, you`re talking about the second one?
[D. Osmond:] No, the first one.
[M. Osmond:] Oh, yes.
[Behar:] What is his name?
[M. Osmond:] Steve. Same as your Steve.
[Behar:] Same as mine.
[M. Osmond:] Yes.
[Behar:] So then you get married to somebody else.
[M. Osmond:] I did.
[Behar:] You had a couple kids.
[M. Osmond:] For 20 years.
[Behar:] You adopted a whole bunch of kids.
[M. Osmond:] I can`t remember which ones.
[Behar:] That`s good. That`s right. That`s the way it`s supposed to be.
[M. Osmond:] Absolutely.
[Behar:] And then you got rid of him. He`s gone now.
[M. Osmond:] Yes.
[Behar:] All right. On to number three, who happens to be number one.
[M. Osmond:] Number one wow!
[Behar:] Which is fascinating, because I mean, I have trouble with it, to tell you the truth, why I would never remarry my ex-husband. I mean, if I wanted to marry him, I would have stayed married. What happened there?
[M. Osmond:] Well, you know, it`s interesting. I think time, I think we were young, you know, you get a lot of pressure and opinions and all kinds of things that hit you, and I don`t know. Maybe we both just matured, grew up, and he`s phenomenal. He`s an amazing we`ve always just been the same. I don`t know how to explain it other than there`s just a connection.
[Behar:] When did you meet him in the first place?
[M. Osmond:] Through our son. You know, we had kind of gone our separate ways.
[D. Osmond:] No, in the first place, the very beginning.
[Behar:] No, when you first met him.
[M. Osmond:] Oh, like 100 years ago?
[D. Osmond:] Tell me something about through your son you met your first husband?
[Behar:] Yes, 100 years ago.
[M. Osmond:] He played he was a professional basketball, he played, and we met through BYU and I think somebody introduced was it one of you brothers, was it you or Jay. I don`t remember.
[Behar:] Nobody remembers.
[M. Osmond:] It was a long time ago.
[D. Osmond:] Tito was involved somewhere.
[Behar:] Just one more question.
[M. Osmond:] Jermaine.
[Behar:] There was a sexual attraction that had carried over from those years?
[D. Osmond:] Now, we`re getting into the good questions.
[M. Osmond:] OK. So, what you`re asking was, was there always some kind of
[Behar:] Was there a spark?
[M. Osmond:] No, and it was one of those things that really Steven, son Steven, said, mom needs some help. And so, you know, he helped move some things, I was kind of left with all these kids, and it wasn`t initially, he was just always a really good friend.
[Behar:] When he came back into the picture.
[M. Osmond:] Yes. No, I was definitely divorced and moving on with my life, and truly made a decision that I really just wanted to get my children raised. I think that every woman does that. But my feeling is, is that you don`t really you really shouldn`t be looking for a relationship until you feel like your self-esteem is where it should be. I said that on Oprah. You marry at the level of your self-esteem.
[Behar:] You say it on Oprah, you can say it. I`m sorry.
[D. Osmond:] Can I ask you a question?
[Behar:] Yes.
[D. Osmond:] You don`t agree with this. You just said that a second ago. Tell me why.
[M. Osmond:] She was asking
[D. Osmond:] She said you don`t agree. Why?
[Behar:] Who`s interviewing who?
[D. Osmond:] No, I`m turning the table.
[M. Osmond:] I agree with her if it were my second husband.
[D. Osmond:] No. What problem do you have with it? Because it`s true love. I mean, the way I`ve said it the way I said it earlier, it is a Cinderella story with bumps in the road with a beautiful happy ending. What`s your problem, Joy?
[Behar:] Right. No, I don`t have a problem with it, I`m just
[M. Osmond:] Who is he?
[Behar:] I think it`s lovely, I`m happy for her, I`m just inquiring.
[M. Osmond:] Because I think a lot of people would wonder, you know, about it. But we but I would say about two years ago we said, OK, let`s see what`s happened. We didn`t want to hurt our son. We didn`t want to hurt other kids. I didn`t want anybody to know. And I fell in love. I fell madly in love.
[Behar:] Again, with the same guy?
[M. Osmond:] Oh, my gosh, yes.
[D. Osmond:] See, I`ve always had a great relationship with Steve.
[Behar:] Have you? You always liked him?
[D. Osmond:] He`s always been a great guy.
[Behar:] So, you approve of the whole thing?
[D. Osmond:] I not only approved, I condone this whole thing. Oh, yes.
[Behar:] Do you care?
[M. Osmond:] Yes.
[D. Osmond:] He`s been there for many, many years to help out the children, even in another marriage. OK? He`s been there for those kids.
[Behar:] So, he`s a good guy.
[D. Osmond:] He`s a really good guy.
[Behar:] I`m so glad. Really.
[M. Osmond:] You know, I didn`t even know until a year ago I guess my kids like put paint cans up and it spilled all over my basement. I was out of town, they were afraid of what their father would do. They called Steve and he came over and like, you know, cleaned up the paint and did the walls and I didn`t even know this.
[Behar:] What`s the other one? What`s his name?
[D. Osmond:] We`re not going to go there.
[M. Osmond:] No, it was just so funny, I didn`t even know that. But he`s always very supportive.
[D. Osmond:] He`s number two.
[Behar:] The number two husband. What was his name?
[D. Osmond:] Number two husband.
[Behar:] OK. All right. Now, so that`s good. I`m happy for you both. And you have a hit show in Vegas.
[D. Osmond:] Unbelievable, Joy, what`s going on.
[Behar:] And you`re just back to being Donny and Marie.
[D. Osmond:] I like this. Can you do this again?
[M. Osmond:] You didn`t even want to see these.
[Behar:] Yes, those are beautiful. Yes. Very nice. Rings see, rings make my finger itchy.
[D. Osmond:] So, you don`t wear a ring?
[Behar:] Well, I`m not married.
[D. Osmond:] Who`s Steve?
[Behar:] Steve is my
[Bf. D. Osmond:] Oh. Are you going to get married?
[M. Osmond:] She just said rings make her itchy.
[Behar:] We`ll be together this July for 29 years without being married.
[D. Osmond:] What`s his problem? Why doesn`t he pop the question?
[Behar:] Oh, he pops it.
[M. Osmond:] And what do you do back?
[Behar:] What do I do back?
[D. Osmond:] Yes. You just don`t want to get married to Steve. Is that what it is?
[Behar:] No, I love Steve.
[D. Osmond:] Do you like him?
[Behar:] I love Steve.
[D. Osmond:] Why don`t you marry him?
[Behar:] Well, that`s why I don`t want to marry him, because I love him. OK. Sit tight. We have much more to talk about.
[M. Osmond:] I think we have issues.
[Behar:] You`re right about that, Marie.
[D. Osmond:] We`ll be right back here on the Donny and Marie show interviewing Joy Behar.