[Chetry:] Got breaking news out of Pakistan right now. We want to show you these new pictures that we're just getting of new video of clashes taking place. Pakistani police said to be using tear gas. And there you can see the clashes or, you know, what seems to just sort of be a standoff at this point between some of the journalists and demonstrators that are gathered outside of parliament. This is for an organized rally. It was a call from Pakistani former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto, and police there are just trying to hold back the crowd in riot gear. There have been no arrests, they say, but they're just police in uniform. They have their shields and sticks and they're trying to move a razor wire barricade surrounding the protesters. Again, as we said, this was a call from Benazir Bhutto to get out there and protest what has been a crackdown by Pervez Musharraf. A quarter of the country's lawyers under arrest. Many of them demonstrating as well, those not arrested. She is also claiming that hundreds within our political party were arrested as well. She says some 4 00 since this began. And Pervez Musharraf declaring a state of emergency. This taking place on Saturday. But again, the new video coming of journalists. You see all the cameras there taking photos and protesting against some of the Pakistani police. We're going to continue to monitor the situation and bring you the latest developments on this quickly changing and volatile situation. One of our most important allies on the war on terror, Pakistan John.
[Roberts:] So, Pakistan in a state of emergency. The U.S. in a state of anxiety as oil heads for $100 a barrel. Relations with one of our most important allies in the war on terror, the economic impact of sky-high gasoline prices, just two of the crucial issues that will be facing our next president. And joining us this morning is one of the candidates vying for the Oval Office, New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson. Also the author of a brand new book titled "Leading by Example: How We Can Inspire an Energy and Security Solution." Always good to see you, Governor Richardson.
[Gov. Bill Richardson , Presidential Candidate:] Thank you, John.
[Roberts:] So oil just about to touch $100 a barrel. Are we on the verge of an economic crisis here?
[Richardson:] Yes, we are. And in my book I detail how we need a massive crash Apollo program by the year 2020 to shift from fossil fuels, reduce our consumption by 50 percent. And we have to do that, John, by going to solar wind, biomass, fuel efficiency. You know, it's 35 miles per gallon the Congress wants to do. That's a baby step. It should be 50.
[Roberts:] Right.
[Richardson:] We should have 30 percent renewable in all electricity. Utilities have the technology to do it. We also have to sacrifice a little bit, each individual American in appliances. Not a not a mandate. You don't wear sweaters everybody, but mass transit, the way we drive, air-conditioning, lighting. It's going to take a national effort, and the president has to lead, and this president has done nothing.
[Roberts:] As we see in our "Quick Vote" this morning, people expect that they're going to drive less, they're going to spend less on other things. Not a whole lot of them though willing to drive a more fuel-efficient car. Let's switch over to Pakistan. Benazir Bhutto today an op-ed in "The New York Times" took a look at the words that President Bush said in his 2005 inaugural address talking about his freedom agenda, where he said, "All who live in tyranny and hopelessness can know: the United States will not ignore your oppression or excuse your oppressors when you stand for liberty. We will stand with you." What is happening though in Pakistan and the U.S. reaction to it seems to put that statement in a little bit of a tough spot here.
[Richardson:] Well, it does. Basically, President Bush and the vice president and the Bush administration have given Musharraf a pass, and they basically said, OK, Musharraf, we're disappointed, but we're not going to lean on you to stop this repression that you have in Pakistan. What an American president would do, what I would do right now, is I would go straight to Musharraf and say, "We're giving you $10 billion mainly for your military since 911. You've got to do two things or we're going to cut this money off. One, go after the safe havens on your border, go after terrorists and al Qaeda. And secondly, restore democracy, have elections, bring the supreme court back." He's in danger of being toppled because of this repression. This is a country that has nuclear weapons, that's our main ally in the bulwark against terrorism. You know, this foreign policy, we have a crisis with Iran. We're saber rattling against them. We have one with Iraq. We have got Afghanistan is falling apart. You know, this foreign policy has to start using diplomacy, not aggression, not backing repressive dictators like Musharraf.
[Roberts:] Now, the last debate, your Democratic colleagues all pounced on Hillary Clinton. You were sort of the lone wolf in the wilderness saying, hey, wait a minute, we shouldn't we shouldn't be doing this. Why should we not read that as a guy who is potentially preserving a position on the ticket?
[Richardson:] No, I'm going to be the nominee. All I was saying, John, is that we don't need to get personal among Democrats. We should stay positive. We should have differences over policy, but, you know, to say that Senator Clinton can't be trusted, she is tied to special interests, that is over the top. And John and Barack should concentrate on policy differences. That's all I was saying.
[Roberts:] OK.
[Richardson:] I'm going to be the nominee. I don't want to be vice president. Why would I want to do that?
[Roberts:] Well, a lot of people say, including Joe Biden, why would you want to be vice president when Bill Clinton is going to be at the White House? But on that point, you're the feature interview in "Playboy" magazine. And quickly, if we could, you say in that interview, "I've got a little bit of Bill Clinton in me." Do you want to elaborate on that?
[Richardson:] Well, what I meant is...
[Roberts:] What part?
[Richardson:] ... Bill Clinton was the best natural politician that I ever saw. And I think I'm a decent politician. I like people. I like campaigning. I like parades. I like grassroots campaigning. This is why I think I'm going to do well in Iowa and New Hampshire. That is all I'm saying.
[Roberts:] All right. Well, we'll see. You're still, what, 42 points behind in the national numbers. You've got a little bit of time.
[Richardson:] I'm moving up. I'm moving up in Iowa and New Hampshire and Nevada. You know, this race isn't over, John. We've got 60 days.
[Roberts:] Always good to be moving up. Governor Richardson...
[Richardson:] Thanks.
[Roberts:] ... it's always good to see you as well.
[Richardson:] Thanks.
[Roberts:] Kiran.
[Chetry:] All right. Well, move over fashion models. There are now holograms that will be coming to a fashion show near you. We're going to be talking about the company behind it and why they decided to go this route coming up.