[Cooper:] Well, Hillary Clinton is expected to speak shortly tonight, any minute, in fact. Her first remarks since her concession speech. We'll bring tm to you when she does. In the meantime, Donald Trump, as you know, takes pride in embracing a whole string of adjectives about himself, starting with un unconventional, unpredictable, unprecedented, reveling in uncreating uncertainty, or creating uncertainty. No doubt those characteristics served him well on the campaign trail. But the global stage, as the most powerful person in the world, he's got some unsettled because Donald Trump has wasted no time in breaking with convention. CNN's Jim Sciutto tonight joins us with more. So, Trump has broken with traditional protocol in the ways he's contacting foreign leaders. What have you learned?
[Jim Sciutto, Cnn Chief National Correspondent:] No question, and some of this substantial protocol. I spoke with a diplomat from a very close U.S. ally today who said in the wake of Trump's victory, they had to reach out to multiple contacts inside the Trump camp before they can figure out who to speak to, to arrange a call with their head of state. They finally did, it was more than a day after their victory when they were after later in the queue than some other not so close allies. And, you know, there's a little bit of diplomatic pique there maybe, but there's also genuine confusion about who these major allies and foreign powers need to speak with in the Trump administration. In addition to that, Anderson, the Trump team has still not contacted the State Department for help in these contacts, and that is not just to just get the two leaders on the phone, say. But it's for the option of having briefings with the State Department with the president-elect before you have these phone calls to know what the key issues are before you begin those first key conversations.
[Cooper:] Does I mean, does this have U.S. allies genuinely nervous?
[Sciutto:] There's it's early I would say for them to be genuinely nervous. There is certainly confusion but about who to contact in the campaign. But also just based on the candidate's statements during the campaign, there is genuine substantive confusion about what a Trump foreign policy looks like. You have the first meetings with the Japanese prime minister, that is tomorrow. Japan is going to have the question, did you mean it when you said you want to nuclearize Asia? That you consider Japan and South Korea, for instance, having nuclear weapons, breaking with decades of U.S. policy? NATO allies, particularly those in Eastern Europe, are going to want to know how much Donald Trump wants to stand up to Russia. They also want to know, did he mean it when he said the NATO alliance is obsolete because these are countries depending on the NATO alliance for their security against what they see as real and immediate Russian threat? So, those are hard questions that these countries and their close allies are going to want to have answered.
[Cooper:] Yes. We're going to take to "GPS's" Fareed Zachary about this later on, in the next hour. Jim Sciutto, thanks very much. Back with the panel. Maggie, this was some of your reporting about the difficulty some have had in trying to get in contact with Donald Trump. That's again, something Donald Trump pushed back in "The New York Times" about today, saying essentially he's talked to plenty of foreign leaders. Not really responding to the idea they're hard to reach.
[Haberman:] Right. This is a technique Donald Trump used throughout the campaign and will clearly use throughout the transition and I assume his presidency which is saying something that actually the story didn't actually say. Right. And then get people to argue over, as opposed to what was actually said. So, what we said, not that he didn't talk to people but that they had an unconventional time reaching him, such as dialing up Trump Tower cold. "Reuters" confirmed this on their own. There was some report on someone, I think in Australia, getting Trump's cell phone from a golfer who knew Trump. I mean, this is not normal protocol. And the concern is not just protocol for protocol sake. It's that these are not secure lines. It's what kind of conversations taking place on what phones? The Clinton campaign spent a lot of time to figure out what the protocol was going to be for how she would handle calls from world leader. They're not only campaign that has ever done that. Again, this is not just a campaign that wasn't expecting to win, but they are still kind of stumbling into how to do this going forward.
[Cooper:] Maria, is that what it is? I mean, obviously, you're a Democrat not Trump supporter. Is that what it is? The sort of unexpected position that they now find themselves in sort of playing catch up? Or is there a larger problem?
[Maria Cardona, Cnn Political Commentator:] Well, I think that's part of it. And I think, you know, to be completely realistic, given that nobody there, at least, you know, Trump himself has never been in government, I think we should give him a little bit of time to figure this out. I can't believe I'm saying this. But
[Cooper:] Do you want to go over to this table?
[Cardona:] Hang on. But I think the concern is that what we are seeing now isn't just sort of disarray because you need some time to figure things out. I think the bigger problem here is that because he likes to be unconventional, that really does foment uncertainty in the world stage, and with these world leaders. Well, if he's unconventional about how to get even in touch with him, what is it going to mean for the relationships that he's going to need to continue to move forward on the global stage and on the global arena? And I think furthermore just quickly about the issue we were talking about earlier, unconventional is one thing. But bringing in your son- in-law and the whole lot of conflict of interest that Trump himself has, I think that is the biggest concern for the American people and people that are looking at this as like and you guys were worried about Hillary Clinton and the conflict of interest, are you kidding me? Look at what's before you. We don't know what's in his taxes. We don't know what relationship he has with all of these foreign governments that he now perhaps owes tons of money too, and he's going in the position to make laws, regulations and implement who knows what kinds of executive decisions that could benefit them.
[Cooper:] And I can imagine some Trump supporters here and saying, you know what, maybe a little fear on the part of folks overseas, our allies overseas, or, you know, kind of uncertainty, maybe that's OK to kind of keep them on their toes?
[Navarro:] Well, I think the operative word there is allies. These are supposedly our friends. So, hopefully, they shouldn't feel uncertainty or fear. I wish he would spend more time combating Putin, combating ISIS, combating Kim Jong-un than he does combating "The New York Times." I mean, this is a guy who has been in office now, has been president- elect for seven days and has been tweeting repeatedly about "The New York Times." Stop being obsessed about a newspaper in the United States. They're not your enemy. There's people who are hacking into our electoral system that are our enemy. And you need to start focusing on that. Look, I actually welcome the idea of a son-in-law coming into the White House. I prefer him to a white supremacist, anti-Semite.
[Cardona:] But you're getting both.
[Navarro:] I think you need, no, he's orthodox Jewish. I think you need a Trump whisperer. I think you need a Trump manager. I think Jared Kushner, and everybody know him, tells me he's a very smart guy, very grounded, discrete, focused and serious. I think he's got his father-in-law's ear. And if he can advise Trump, restrain Trump, discipline Trump and contain Trump without Trump realizing he's being restrained, contained and disciplined, that's a very good thing for America.
[Cooper:] Well, also, the reporting is that is part of the role that Steve Bannon played in the campaign, sort of trying to get Donald Trump to not tweet some things and successfully do that. Although, obviously, he brings with him a lot of other things. But Ana raises an interesting point about Donald Trump's obsession with media coverage and watching television and watching cable news, obviously, reading "New York Times" and reading all the reporting most presidents, at least that I can remember in modern times, have not done that. President Obama talked about not really watching on a daily basis, you know, cable news. I think George W. Bush didn't either. At a certain point, does Donald Trump stop doing that? Can he stop doing that, Jeff?
[Lord:] Sure, I think he can.
[Cooper:] Really? Really?
[Navarro:] When or without needing medication?
[Cardona:] Wow
[Lord:] The one thing I would say is presidents do President Obama was, whether he watched it or not, was obsessed with FOX News. He was obsessed with talk radio. Bill Clinton was obsessed
[Cooper:] Well, right, they are critical of it. But they're not listening to it constantly.
[Langley:] They are not responding to it.
[Cooper:] I mean, to have the president elect tweeting about the "New York Times," tweeting about
[Lord:] Right. But I think that this is part of his appeal to be perfectly candid. I think that
[Cooper:] You don't see it as a slight character flaw for a president? A potential danger that your focus I mean
[Lord:] No, no, seriously.
[Cooper:] I know a lot of famous people. I don't know of anybody who watches as much news about themselves and follows, probably has every magazine they are ever been on the cover of.
[Lord:] I think it helped him to do that. I think it helped him structure his campaign and what he was going to talk about and et cetera.
[Langley:] Plus, he was trapped on a plane a lot of the time honestly, you know, when he was going to all these states. He really was trapped on a plane and watching it.
[Cooper:] Plenty of candidates are and they are reading.
[Langley:] This is true. I think he's going to become so busy he will have to stop watching quite as much television but it is very important to him
[Cooper:] to be in touch. I get that.
[Navarro:] He's got 4,000 appointments to fill. He's got a chaotic transition is going on. How the hell can he not be that busy now?
[Cooper:] I think Monica's point is really interesting and Maggie follow-up on it. He I mean, Jeffrey, I think you mentioned this yesterday. Twitter is a way for him to feel in touch with people. There's large rallies, which according to reporting, or the "New York Times," he wants to continue those. Let me finish. It is a way for him to feel in touch with people and I guess watching the shows is as well.
[Haberman:] It is a way for him to feel that people are hearing from him directly. It's even just being in touch with people. People felt he was talking to them in this campaign. That's what Twitter did, that's what those rallies did. He communicated regardless of what people think about the message he did communicate very specifically to people.
[Cooper:] Let her finish.
[Haberman:] I'm coughing so much. I'm barely getting through the sentence.
[Cooper:] Ay, yi, yi.
[Haberman:] But it was also a way for him to get around the mainstream media. What I think he's not figured out, I was thinking about this last week and I thought about it again when Monica was talking, I don't think he realizes yet what his days are going to be like. The days of the president are very, very different than the days of a candidate, which is basically being on a plane, and going from rally to rally. However many he would do a day, toward the end, it was a lot, it was not always like that. They are trying to impress that your life is about to change dramatically. So, what he's doing right now doesn't necessarily reflect what we will see later. I just think the reality of the job will catch up to him at some point.
[Cooper:] You know, it's interesting, we're about to hear from Hillary Clinton. This will be her first remarks don't know exactly what she's going to say. We're going to bring them to you and monitor them also if she's not talking in topic. Do you expect her I mean, what role do you see her taking on?
[Cardona:] That's a great question, I think, she's going to continue to be involved in all of the issues that she has cared deeply about her whole life. Issues having to do with women, having to do with kids. Perhaps some kind of global work. I'm sure she will be continuing to work with the Clinton Foundation. Her voice will continue to be heard on a lot of things.
[Cooper:] So, you think this foundation continues a pace as it has been.
[Cardona:] Absolutely. That is my thought.
[Cooper:] Especially now because there's no conflict of her
[Cardona:] That's exactly right. And the tremendous work that the Clinton Foundation has been doing from day one in terms of saving lives, I think is something that should be something that continues from a global perspective.
[Cooper:] Ana, for those who oppose Donald Trump, you were a never Trumper, what is the role you see for those people whether they're Democrats or Republicans, do they is there a time where they are waiting to give Donald Trump a chance and see what happens? Or does the resistance continue throughout?
[Navarro:] Both. Look, I think on the one hand, he's now the president of all of us. And if he fails, we all fail. And the cost of failure is really scary. If he fails on national security, if he fails on detecting a terrorist attack, American lives could be in danger. It is a scary, scary thought. So, we should all be hoping that he succeeds, that he has a good administration, that he can create jobs, that he can stabilize the economy, that he can do good for the country. That being said, if he doesn't, if he continues doing things like appointing perceived white supremacists, if he continues not speaking out on the division, the racial attacks that are going on in the streets of America all over the country, then hell yes, we've got remain vigilant. We're not going to remain silent just because he's now president. I want him to be a good president but if he's not a good president, I have every right like an American, every one of us does, to protest, to be vigilant, to hold him accountable, to make sure that he is the type of president that we as an American people deserve.
[Langley:] Anderson, two things. I've talked to people at the transition today and they are speech soon that does address the fears, the protests and that kind of thing, because he does need to come out and say I am going to be a president for all people. I understand there are a lot of fears.
[Cooper:] But he did say the night he won. But you are saying more substantive.
[Langley:] Yes, I think the pressure is building upon him to come out and say something. And I do know, in particular with Jared Kushner, that he is but he was one of the ones that helped draft a lot of his speeches during the campaign, that he's actually working on something that will discuss with his father-in-law that addresses that. A second thing is in addition to what you said about the economy, not just national security but on the economy and wanting to bring jobs. You know, yesterday you had IBM CEO Ginni Rometty, a female CEO of an iconic company, send him a letter to say I am willing to help you, make this country stronger. And so I think it is going to be interesting now to see if he then touches back with the CEOs in the business community that are willing to give him a chance. And I had lunch with a bunch of CEOs yesterday. And they said to me that Jared Kushner was one of the people that gave them hope, because they think he is a very calming influence on Donald Trump. And he is a bright guy.
[Cardona:] If he does do that. If he does do the speech which is something that I mentioned he should do from the get go because even though his speech the night of the election was very magnanimous and very gracious. Five minutes of nice words does not make up for 15 months of insults which is what a lot of these communities of color and women in general have felt his campaign was what his campaign was all about? And then bringing in someone like Steve Bannon just kind of rub salt in the wounds. If he is able to do that and he does it an incredible way, I think that it's a very good first step but emphasis on the first step. He has to make sure that he follows-up his words that he wants to be the president of everybody, not just those who brought him to the White House with actual actions.
[Langley:] There you see question I ask as if, well will he speak about Steve Bannon and the Alt-right and all that and I got the feeling no that...
[Unidentified Female:] I'm sure that won't happen... That one he said...
[Lord:] What I think he needs to do and the greatest contribution, one of the really big contributions he can make here, is stop this division of people to do communities of color and this that and the other thing. We're all Americans here. And I do think the as I've said many times that we have been divided repeatedly, repeatedly into different groups and it only produces bad results.
[Navarro:] OK, let me respond to that. Look, those are really pretty words and I appreciate you say them and I actually think you say them genuinely because I know you. But here's a problem. He unleashed this. He was a dividing factor. He inserted it into the rhetoric. He has been talk about the division and dividing us into the Mexicans and non-Mexicans and immigrants and Muslims for the last 18 months it is now his responsibility to put Humpy-Dumpy back together.
[Cooper:] Hillary Clinton is taking the first public remark tonight since conceding the election. She is in Children's Defense Fund event tonight in Washington. She's just taken the stage right now. Let's just listen in, see what her remarks are on. We don't have really have much guidance or any guidance on what she's going to be talking about. Let's just listen in.
[Hillary Clinton , Fmr. Presidential Candidate:] Oh thank you. Thank you, thank you. Oh, it is so wonderful to be here, with all of you on behalf of the Children's Defense Fund. I was listening backstage as Marion went through the 45 years that we have known each other and even reminded me of some things that I have not recalled. Namely that this event was the very first event that my husband and I went to after he was elected president. And so it is especially poignant and meaningful to me to be here again with all of you. And I want to start by congratulating the terrific young people that we are celebrating tonight. You will hear more about each of them because each has faced painful challenges, violence and poverty, abandonment. But they never gave up. They never stopped reaching, never stopped dreaming and yes they have beaten the odds. They call Troy the little poet who could. He's an artist on the basketball court and a flourishing writer in the classroom and he dreams of becoming a film maker. Bethany lived in one foster home after another. But with the help of a wonderful teacher and her own determination, she is thriving and hopes to become a doctor so she can care for others. Carlos, left a difficult childhood in Guatemala, made to it America all by himself. Then he took a second journey making it all the way to college where he is studying to become an engineer. Janet's secret weapon is her beautiful voice and her musical talent. Music had helped her overcome every obstacle that life has thrown in her path. And Ujavelle, persevered through domestic violence at home and bullying at school and found her voice producing a student television show at school and now she has set her sights on becoming a the journalist.
[Cooper:] We're going take a quick break, we're going to keep monitoring Secretary Clinton, bring you any news that she may make tonight, bring that to you. Coming up next, my conversation Megyn Kelly and her new memoir, the Fox News anchor opens up about her controversy with Donald Trump during the campaign and a lot more.