[Cooper:] The breaking news tonight, Libya's foreign minister, Moussa Koussa, resigning his post and suddenly showing up in London. He's now talking with British authorities. What secrets he may be spilling, if any, we don't know. Also word that clandestine CIA operatives are at work on the ground inside Libya, President Obama having reportedly signed secret orders authorizing covert it. In a moment, we will talk with former CIA officer Bob Baer and former Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, who have very different views on whether arming and running covert opts with the opposition is a good idea. Meantime, the situation in places like Misrata continues to be grim, with tanks on the streets, snipers making life hellish for fighters and civilians alike. I spoke with a man named Saddoun El-Misurati, an opposition spokesman in Misrata who asked that we use his name. I spoke to him earlier tonight. What's the level of fighting been in Misrata today?
[Saddoun El-misurati, Spokesman For Libyan Opposition:] It's been quite intense, Anderson. It intensifies normally around early evening, and carries on to the early hours of the night.
[Cooper:] And in terms of Gadhafi tanks, are they hiding under buildings, so that they can't be gotten out by aircraft?
[El-misurati:] Normally, they just come out to fire a few shellings. And tanks would disappear as soon as they find coalition forces patrolling the skies.
[Cooper:] Have you been able to get any supplies to hospitals? In the past, we have talked to doctors who have said that the hospitals are running short of medicine.
[El-misurati:] Yes, we managed to get two shipments so far of medical of badly needed medical supplies to the hospitals. But obviously, we still need more supplies in terms of dealing with the day-to-day casualties and situation on the ground.
[Cooper:] And what is your greatest hope at this point? Is it that opposition force will be able to come from the east and help? Or do you hope to somehow, with coalition air support, be able to actually take back the city of Misrata fully?
[El-misurati:] Well, absolutely, our greatest hope will rely and lie mainly on the support of the international coalition forces in the form of change of tactics, from the air to target tanks, sporadic tanks and heavy artillery of Gadhafi's forces, but also take out groups of snipers positioned on buildings in the city, eliminate the kind of threat that has been around against the civilians of Misrata for quite some time now.
[Cooper:] Saddoun El-Misurati, I appreciate your time. Thank you. Be careful.
[El-misurati:] Thank you.
[Cooper:] All right, let's dig deeper now on tonight's breaking news, the CIA working on the ground covertly with the opposition. That information was leaked to various news sources. Whether or not it's arming them whether or not arming them is a good idea, however, that is another issue to talk about. I'm joined by Paul Wolfowitz, former deputy secretary of defense in the Bush administration, and former CIA officer Robert Baer, intelligence columnist for TIME.com and co-author with his wife of "The Company We Keep: A Husband-and-Wife True-Life Spy Story." Bob, not much is known about exactly the makeup of the opposition. Do you think it's a good idea, A., for covert operations to be ongoing with them and to be arming them, if that is what it ends up being?
[Robert Baer, Intelligence Analyst, Time.com:] Well, good idea or bad idea, we will find out. But I will tell you, this is a nightmare trying to train the Libyans. I tried to do it many years ago. We had given them rockets. They turned out and they used these rockets against the Sudanese Parliament. These people are very difficult to manage. And putting the CIA on the ground is highly risky. You have to put armed people on the ground. You have to figure out who's going to fight and who's not and it could take a very, very long time. It is not going to be easy.
[Cooper:] Paul, you support arming the opposition, but say we have been waiting too long to really learn about them, right?
[Paul Wolfowitz, Former U.s. Deputy Defense Secretary:] I think that we should be doing everything we possibly can to support the opposition, including a lot that we could do that's nonlethal. It seems to me we have two possible outcomes here. One is a prolonged stalemate, which seems to me is very bad for the Libya people, who continue to suffer. It is very bad for the U.S. and the rest of the coalition maintaining this no-fly zone. I can't see anything good about a protracted stalemate. It's true we don't know what the opposition would be like when they do take over, but there are actually I think some promising signs. But the important thing is we should be in there, we should be working with them. I don't know why what we do with them should be covert at all. And, frankly, there's a lot that we ought to do that's not lethal, starting with just the fact of recognizing this is a war of momentum. And right after the strikes began, the momentum shifted back to the opposition. It looks dangerously as though it's tilting the other way now. If the U.S. would have joined Qatar and France and other countries would have come along and recognizing this provisional government, I think it would send a very, very powerful message to the people around Gadhafi that the end is coming.
[Cooper:] Bob, from what we understand, CIA officers are on the ground I don't know if there are actual CIA officers or contractors trying to understand, I guess, make contacts with the opposition, figure out who all the players are. How does it work, though, to actually train a force on the ground? You say you have done it. What kind of time does this take? What kind of manpower does it require? Because these are folks who in many cases, it's said there are about 1,000 who have actual some level of military training, but by and large we're seeing just young kids and shopkeepers, many of whom don't know how to operate weapons.
[Baer:] First, I would like to say Paul is absolutely right. We should have done this when the momentum was in or favor, in the opposition's favor, in the rebels' favor. So this is a catchup ball at this point. And to form a force like this is going to take six months. You just simply can't give them surface-to-air missiles, rockets, automatic weapons and expect them to figure out how to use this stuff. I hate to say it, but, right now, our best chance of ending this conflict is eliminating Gadhafi. I'm not advocating it. I'm just saying this is the quickest solution. He is the problem. And when you're doing these stopgap measures, like bombing and the rest of it, it's stopping a massacre, but on the other hand, I don't see what we're getting pulled into a quagmire. I would rather see the Defense Department on the ground, if you have to be there training. The CIA hates covert action. It rarely works. It worked in Afghanistan, but other times it's almost impossible to do.
[Cooper:] Why do you say it rarely works?
[Baer:] We simply don't have control over the rebels. They don't have to follow our orders. They take our money, they take our weapons, and they go shoot who they want. And in this case, the Libyans are going to be doing the same thing. They're going to be running into a city, firing into the air, coming out again, and that's going to be it. That kind of discipline takes a very, very long time, especially when you're dealing with a foreign force, and you have to have Arabic speakers on the ground. It's tough.
[Cooper:] Paul, do you agree with that, that it rarely works?
[Wolfowitz:] I'm not sure. Look, each case is different, and Bob has had experience with these people. But and I'm sure there are things that would be tough, but there are some things that are simple. And let me say one which I have been saying over and over again. I don't understand why it is that the Egyptian satellite television, NileSat, broadcast Libyan state television, so that Gadhafi and his son are able to go on the air threatening the Libyans, why we have done nothing to shut that down and done nothing to enable the opposition to broadcast. You heard in your clip earlier that they're dependent on the Libyan cell phone system to communicate among themselves in the field, and that's depending on the people they're fighting. We could be giving them satellite telephones. There's a lot that we could give them that I think would make a difference. I agree the things that would make a big difference take more time, which is why we shouldn't be wasting time here. But I think moving in a dramatic way and making it clear that we're not going to accept a stalemate, we will work with the opposition, we will work as quickly as we can, might bring an end to this whole thing with less fighting and quicker.
[Cooper:] Bob, is it tough to shut down Libyan government communications, to shut off their satellite service and to give communication equipment to the opposition?
[Baer:] No. That would be easy. And I think we could shut down their communications. It would take a little bit of effort, but we can do it with C-130s. I have seen this done before, as Paul knows. It could be a little more effort and we could do it. We have to close this place down and we have got to get this over fast because it's becoming a very, very nasty civil war.
[Cooper:] Bob Baer, Paul Wolfowitz, I appreciate both your perspectives. Thank you for being on.
[Wolfowitz:] Thank you.
[Cooper:] 360 follow now on the woman who stood up in front of Western reporters and tried to get her message out. Her name is Eman al-Obeidy. If you don't know it by now, you should, telling the world that Gadhafi soldiers gang-raped her. We can't of course independently verify what she is saying. She was hustled away by authorities, some of them apparently undercover posing as hotel workers. She hasn't been seen since. The government claims she's been released and is with her family. Her actual family, though, who live far in the east who we have tracked down, say that's not true, adding that the regime offered them cash or a house if their persuaded their daughter to recant her rape allegations. They say she refused and today now four days later, there's still no sign of this woman. However, Libyan television is reporting on her, painting her as a traitor and a prostitute. I want to show you some of what's being said on air now for Libyans to see. Take a look. This is the anchor, saying: "I said, with all due respect to whores, even a whore may have some sense of patriotism. Even a whore will have a sense of patriotism when it comes to her homeland, Libya. But sister Eman has a political hate agenda," this anchor says. "She's extremely radical." She went on. Again, that was the anchor on state television in Libya calling Eman worse than a whore. Eman remains missing. And we will keep reporting on this until she is found. A program note now, tomorrow, I will be talking with four "New York Times" journalists who were held captive by the Gadhafi regime for nearly a week, threatened with death. They have a remarkable story to tell. Reporter Anthony Shadid, videographer Stephen Farrell, photographers Lynsey Addario and Tyler Hicks are speaking out here on 360 tomorrow night about their experience. I hope you join us for that. Coming up tonight, an eyewitness reports new deadly violence in Syria, right after President Bashar al-Assad gave a long, rambling speech on state television. All that talk about lifting the state of emergency,it didn't happen. The witness says army and security forces fired on peaceful protesters. We will show you the video. The government denies anyone was killed. We will talk to a government spokesman and a former U.S. ambassador. And later in Japan, disturbing news, high radiation levels not only in the seawater near the damaged nuclear power plant, we already knew that, but also in a town about 25 miles away. And the importance of that, it is outside the current evacuation zone. Also, new questions about the harrowing working conditions for those heroes scrambling to try to cool down the reactors. Are they getting enough food? Do they have the right protective equipment? Some serious questions to ask, coming up.