Is the Portuguese "Futuro do pretérito" ever actually used for the "future in the past" literally, or in modern Portuguese is it just used for conditional structures?
By analogy, the English word "would" is today mainly used for the conditional mood in English, however you can see by looking at it that it comes from the past of "will". This meaning of "future in the past" is still visible in structures like reported speech, such as "He told me he would come".
This can also be formed periphrastically with "to be going" as in "He told me he was going to come", and indeed, for most uses of "future in the past", we use the periphrastic form.
Portuguese has almost exactly the same phenomenon (peculiar, since English isn't a Romance language). Except that whereas English has a modal and a "go" periphrasis Portuguese has an inflected and a "go" periphrasis.
So you have, loosely speaking (usages are different in other situations, but for the sake of analogy):
Eu jogarei = I will play
Eu jogaria = I would play
Eu vou jogar = I am going to play
Eu ia jogar = I was going to play
My question is this: while I am very familiar with the use of jogaria in conditional structures (in fact, I believe in Portugal you don't call it the futuro do pretérito but the condicional), are there any uses of this conjugation to mean an actual future of the past in the sense of "He told me he would be here" or "I knew that you would do well". I know I can say Ele falou que ia estar aqui and Eu sabia que você ia mandar bem but can I say this, or something like this, using the pretérito perfeito forms?
I'm interested in any dialect of portuguese, thanks in advance
"Kama ni kweli, neno ""futuro"" linatumiwa kwa lugha ya Kireno kwa maana ya ""maana"" au ""wakati ujao"" au ""wakati ujao"" au ""wakati ujao"" au ""wakati ujao"" au ""wakati ujao"" au ""wakati ujao"" au ""wakati ujao"" au ""wakati ujao"" au ""wakati ujao"" au ""wakati ujao"" au ""wakati ujao"" au ""wakati ujao""?" "Kwa mfano, neno la Kiingereza ""would"" hutumiwa hasa kwa mood ya masharti katika Kiingereza, hata hivyo unaweza kuona kwa kuangalia kwamba linatokana na zamani ya ""will.""" "Hiyo maana ya ""maana ya wakati ujao"" bado inaonekana katika miundo kama vile hotuba ya ripoti, kama vile ""Aliniambia atakuja.""" "Hii pia inaweza kuundwa periphrastically na ""kuenda"" kama katika ""Aliniambia alikuwa kuja,"" na kwa kweli, kwa ajili ya matumizi mengi ya ""siku zijazo katika siku za nyuma,"" sisi kutumia fomu periphrastic." Kireno kina karibu tukio moja tu (la kipekee, kwa kuwa Kiingereza si lugha ya Kiromantiki). Isipokuwa kwamba wakati Kiingereza ina modal na "go" periphrase Kireno ina inflected na "go" periphrase. "Kama unavyojua, ""Jogoria"" ni jina la Kiingereza la Kiingereza, lakini kwa sababu ya matumizi yake, jina la Kiingereza ni ""jogoria"" (jogoria) na ""jogoria"" (jogoria) ni jina la Kiingereza, lakini kwa sababu ya matumizi yake, jina la Kiingereza ni ""jogoria"" (jogoria) na ""jogoria"" (jogoria) ni jina la Kiingereza." "Ninajua ninaweza kusema ""Ele falou que ia estar aqui"" na ""Eu sabia que você ia mandar bem"" lakini ninaweza kusema hivi au kitu kama hiki kwa kutumia aina ya ""preterito perfeito""?" Mimi ni nia ya lahaja yoyote ya Kireno, asante mapema