A discussion topic about dialogue for the Between Takes Cafe
|Lesson 5: Discussion
Dialogue needs to represent real speech and impart vital information. I was interested to learn that if you are out there listening to other peoples speech you might need to clean it up or smooth it out for a written work.
Did you agree with the authors’ ideas? Why or why not?
What would you do different from their suggestions?
In the article by Lee Masters he suggested you might need to change speech you intend to use to make it fit the character. This idea made me see that speech can affect the way a reader sees the character and interprets the character’s actions. So, if I decide to clean up speech it is because it fits an action by a character or because it implies personality in a character. People don’t always speak in a smooth way so using some original odd speech might give the reader more background about the character.
In the reading by Earnest Hemingway, I noticed that I placed it in the 40’s or 50’s just by the way the female character spoke to the male character. Her speech implied, what ever the event was, it was for his benefit maybe even more than hers. Or, that is the way she was taking the situation.
I was not as happy with the way subplots and subtext was explained by Brian Klems. It was a more in-depth article about dialogue as it relates to the plot. As an extreme, I might read a text on Sociology to understand some characters personality.
To begin with I think planning out character profiles gives me an insight into how the character might speak in a conversation. This is a guess but I am thinking that Point of View will also impact how the character uses speech.
I do agree with Klems that the more you know about the character the more it will impact subtext and subplots. In this respect, I might pay less attention to the planning and more attention to writing action and what the character sounds like within the dialogue.
Dumping dialogue tags and scattering action through out the dialogue gives me a real clue how readers are drawn to this kind of story. As a reader I like action. If I can learn to show not tell with speech and action, it will make the reader want more.
Mjadala wa mazungumzo ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati ya kati. Nilikuwa na hamu ya kujifunza kwamba ikiwa uko nje kusikiliza hotuba ya watu wengine unaweza kuhitaji kuifuta au kuifuta kwa kazi iliyoandikwa. Je, ulikubaliana na mawazo ya waandishi? Kwa nini au kwa nini si? Ungefanya nini tofauti na mapendekezo yao? Katika makala ya Lee Masters, alitoa pendekezo kwamba huenda ukahitaji kubadilisha usemi unaotaka kutumia ili ufanane na tabia. Wazo hili lilinifanya nione kwamba usemi unaweza kuathiri jinsi msomaji anavyoona mhusika na kutafsiri vitendo vya mhusika. Kwa hiyo, ikiwa ninaamua kusafisha hotuba ni kwa sababu inalingana na hatua ya tabia au kwa sababu inamaanisha utu katika tabia. Watu si daima kuzungumza katika njia laini hivyo kutumia baadhi ya asili ya ajabu hotuba inaweza kutoa msomaji zaidi ya msingi kuhusu tabia. "Earnest Hemingway aliandika: ""Niliona kwamba niliweka katika miaka ya 40 au 50 tu kwa njia ambayo mhusika wa kike alizungumza na mhusika wa kiume.""" Hotuba yake ilionyesha, chochote kilichotokea, ilikuwa kwa manufaa yake labda hata zaidi kuliko yake. Au, hivyo ndivyo alivyotumia hali hiyo. Sikuwa na furaha na njia subplots na subtext ilielezwa na Brian Klems. Ilikuwa makala ya kina zaidi kuhusu mazungumzo kama inahusiana na njama. Kwa njia ya kupita kiasi, ningeweza kusoma maandishi juu ya Sosholojia ili kuelewa utu wa baadhi ya wahusika. Kuanza na nadhani kupanga maelezo ya tabia inanipa ufahamu wa jinsi tabia inaweza kuzungumza katika mazungumzo. Hii ni dhana lakini mimi nina kufikiri kwamba Point of View pia itakuwa na athari jinsi tabia hutumia hotuba. Mimi kukubaliana na Klems kwamba zaidi unajua kuhusu tabia zaidi itakuwa na athari subtext na subplots. Kwa upande huu, mimi inaweza kulipa tahadhari kidogo kwa mipango na tahadhari zaidi kwa kuandika hatua na nini tabia inaonekana kama ndani ya mazungumzo. Kuondoa tags za mazungumzo na kutawanya vitendo kupitia mazungumzo kunanipa kidokezo halisi jinsi wasomaji wanavyovutiwa na hadithi kama hii. Kama msomaji napenda vitendo. Kama unaweza kujifunza kuonyesha si kusema kwa hotuba na vitendo, itakuwa kufanya msomaji wanataka zaidi.