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was on pinterest and saw this.
[link removed by admin -- this breeder is notorious]
you can see the link to hte website..there are more pics towards the end of the link.
so unique.
was on pinterest and saw this.
[link removed by admin -- this breeder is notorious]
you can see the link to hte website..there are more pics towards the end of the link.
so unique.
Oliver and Max and Meeko man, i will meet you at the Rainbow bridge. I love you all. Miss you more then you'll ever know.
wait for me...
She's adorable. I have to wonder though if her hearing is good? Blues eyes sometimes comes with a deaf gene.
it would be interesting to know.
we are 99.34 % sure oliver was deaf too...he was obviously just normal.
my personal prefrence is a pup with a lot of colour..but man oh man that one is CUTE!
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I think that is likely photoshopped, for a start. Have never seen blue eyes that intense in any breed that normally can produce blue eye colour. Don;t believe everything that's posted on the internet!
More seriously -- overall, there's definitely some genetic issue there in colouring -- neither the colouring nor eye-colour is normal. I'd wonder whether the dog is pure cavalier or if some breed that can get blue eyes -- some of the herding dogs and there are some smaller ones that could also introduce that dominant white. I'd geuss something has been crossed in at some point.
There are at times, genetic health issues linked to blue eye colour as well as to certain coat colours like white and merle (except in breeds where white is the norm). I'd hope a dog like this would be neutered. Unfortunately such abnormal dogs are often then bred for by crappy breeders who then charge huge amounts for puppies that are not 'more valuable' but likely to be 'more at risk of health issues'.
This is a useful dicussion:
I'd really think there's something like collie or Australian heeler bred in to such a dog.
You hope they are responsible and instead will not be crossing closely related dogs to go for such a cosmetic result that might affect health.
Cavaliers: Tansy : Mindy Connie Roxy Neasa Gus
In memory: My beautiful Jaspar Lucy Leo Lily Libby
Followed that link and saw who the breeder is -- someone to avoid AT ALL COSTS and I have therefore removed the link as I will not risk having anyone seriously consider a purchase from that person. Ask any reputable breeder about that person anywhere in the cavalier world and prepare for a long list of expletives about that creature.
All I can say is: I fully stand by my concerns in the previous post about being wary when such dogs are featured on someone's website.
And as for breeder websites: this one from the start is full of red flags even on first reading. Please never, ever take at face value what breeders say on their websites especially if they have no clear breed club affiliation or involvement (which isn't at all an endorsement but can be a pretty basic ay of eliminating many people from basic consideration, with some rare exceptions). Many people are very good at making it look like they do the right thing when they do not. Buyers should ALWAYS aks hard questions of every breeder (use our puppy buyer guideline links on the homepage), ask to see (real!) certificates, discuss their health programme and ask for evidence of it, and NEVER use as a reference the testimonials posted by breeders on their website (in my experience most who post testimonials are the ones to avoid) or believe they do one jot toards healthful breeding without confirmation by a breeder who is knowledgeable and independent. ALWAYS look for a reputable breeder who is independent and well known to be health focused to get advice on a given breeder-- in the US for example I would email Laura Lang or Anne Eckersley, in the UK, Margaret Carter or a range of current and former breeders she can recommend; in Canada, Pat Barrington (there are others too in these regions; these are just quick top-of-the-head names) to ask whether to work with a given breeder. Give them the link to a breeder's website.
They can tell you in seconds whether the breeder gets a green light or the air raid sirens. This time it's all air raid sirens.
This is a good guide to decoding breeder websites (that breeder's website hit so many of these red flag items that it sounded like a casino jackpot... ):
And note that the author, a reputable breeder of another breed, says THIS:
Rare Colors/Rare Coats – A breeder intentionally breeding undesired traits is not breeding ethically. Yes, sometimes breeders will get something not in standard; it just happens, no matter how well a breeder plans, genetics are genetics recessive genes can crop up. Fuzzy Mastiffs, black and tan Labradors, dilute Shelties, white Dobermans, etc can all crop up from time to time. However, a good breeder will not treat them as something rare and special nor will they ask a significantly more amount of money for one. If you see catchwords such as "rare" raise that red flag.
Cavaliers: Tansy : Mindy Connie Roxy Neasa Gus
In memory: My beautiful Jaspar Lucy Leo Lily Libby
Thank god, i,am so glad to hear you removed that link!!!!! I only got to read the first line, No! No! No! When are people going to stop interfering with the genetics and breeding of our dogs, its just not right, i was quite disgusted, this does not look good, and cavaliers were bred to have brown eyes like most dogs, except for the odd breed. It disturbs me a lot that this goes on Karen,Ruby, and Sadie x
I specificly didn't link to her website as to avoid any of that, I linked to pintrest because i know her link its not aloud on the board i know. i am not sure how to post images other then links or i woulda done that instead.
I would like to say though.. Karlin, you have done an AMAZING job educating most of the people on here. the information you have provided as to what to look for and what to avoid is a fantastic resource and im sure has helped MANY who currently and past have romed these fourms. so THANKYOU for that.
. I have no idea what kinda breeder she is because i didnt take a look around her site. I have no interest to. I have found a fantastic breeder with the help of many members here on the board. and im quite happy.
The only thing i was interested in viewing were the photos of that puppy. (in quick glance at that one specific page..the advertizing of specific puppie litters brings red flags ..any of the breeders i contacted dont even have websites..and if htey do they dont mention if they have puppies avaliable or not. they dont need to.
however..it did say shes not breeding THAT dog, that it is mismarked..or unique. it is also NOT for sale..not for a marked up price..not for ANY price. that one is staying with her.
...its not to breed standards..and no breeder or shower would touch her.. however i still think shes cute. i think its worth shareing on a cavalier board, weather shes to standard or not.. Its cavalier topic and worth a discussion if nothing else.
I dont belive it to be photoshopped. weather there is somethign other then cavalier somewhere down the lines somewhere..or its a rare gene defect..
if a child is born with a abnormality is it to be cursed out?
sorry for typos..i have a fat 16 year old cat asleep on one arm
Oliver and Max and Meeko man, i will meet you at the Rainbow bridge. I love you all. Miss you more then you'll ever know.
wait for me...
I got to reading around about the blue eyed Cavs, and it seems that there is a recessive gene component that shows up very rarely in Cavaliers (like an albino gene shows up in any species). There were a few google images, etc. with Cavs with one or 2 blue eyes. I imagine the bright blue eyes in the baby pic is probably the bright blue of a baby dog (or cat), that lightens up as they age. I think she's interesting, too. But I happen to like the Cardigan Corgis with the long nonshow coats, and the Chinese Cresteds that aren't naked, and brought home the weird/"deformed" fancy goldfish from the pet store just because they were different from the rest, and my 5 legged African Clawed Frog is my favorite one of the bunch too (her personality is so funny!) too, so...lol. As for breeding for non-show/unhealthy traits- no. But to come across a unique recessive trait that happens to pop up occasionally, I think it's interesting.
Easy read link about dog eye coloring: http://www.doggenetics.co.uk/eyes.html
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ive searched a million pictures this year..some on facebook some on google..some on pinrest or tumblr.
and ive seen a few blue eyes. theyre out there. rare..but theyre there.
And i think its a topic like this..that brings forth the discussion..the info that its a recessifve gene component is interesting. Cause i din't know that.. and maybe a few others didn't either.
thats what the site was saying..she had bright blue eyes when she was a pup..it ligtened to a crystal blue as she grew older.
Awe you have a frog? I love frogs. Id love to see a pic of her! they scare me..but i love them (haha if that makes sence) i have a bog down by my house..and took my camera down every day for weeks before i found one later into the night.. took a few pics..then it moved and i jumped ..end of that for me
Oliver and Max and Meeko man, i will meet you at the Rainbow bridge. I love you all. Miss you more then you'll ever know.
wait for me...
Here ya go! We have 3 frogs now- we ended up with a bunch of tadpoles (we were only supposed to have 2!) and rehomed the others. Here's a link to the pics (I posted in the other pets section ): http://www.cavaliertalk.com/forums/s...622#post425622


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Mules and Men is a treasury of black America's folklore as collected by a famous storyteller and anthropologist who grew up hearing the songs and sermons, sayings and tall tales that have formed an oral history of the South since the time of slavery. Returning to her hometown of Eatonville, Florida, to gather material, Zora Neale Hurston recalls "a hilarious night with a pinch of everything social mixed with the storytelling." Set intimately within the social context of black life, the stories, "big old lies," songs, Vodou customs, and superstitions recorded in these pages capture the imagination and bring back to life the humor and wisdom that is the unique heritage of African Americans.
Zora Neale Hurston (1891-1960) was a novelist, folklorist, and anthropologist whose fictional and factual accounts of black heritage remain unparalleled. Her many books include Dust Tracks on a Road; Their Eyes Were Watching God; Jonah's Gourd Vine; Moses, Man of the Mountain; Mules and Men; and Every Tongue Got to Confess.


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Actor Jamil Walker Smith has been a professional actor since the age of 9. Most parents might recall his voice from the cartoon "Hey Arnold!" and "Shark Tale." Others may have seen his character work on shows such as "Girlfriends," "Cold Case" and "Bones."
Now he's taken on a bigger universe — SyFy's "Stargate Universe," which premiers on Friday, Oct. 2 at 9 p.m.
The very successful slate of "Stargate" television series (which were based on a movie of the same name starring Kurt Russell) ended their run last fall. In fact, "Stargate" has the distinction of being the longest running sci-fi series in American TV history.
To many, the "Stargate" series had started to overrun the scheduling block, becoming the science fiction equivalent of the "CSI" and "Law & Order" franchises. "Stargate," "Stargate: Atlantis," and "Stargate: SG-1" likely had as many fans as detractors.
Not a science fiction fan (Smith admits only to owning "Star Wars" Underoos as a kid), the script's grounding in reality is what drew him — particularly the idea of playing a Marine who is actually from our time.
"A theme that resonated for me from the audition material — because I wasn't privy to reading the entire script at that point — is that I play a Marine," Smith said. "I know a lot of brothers whose younger brothers are going to war, so I felt I had a responsibility to show up and do my best to be a Marine. Living in the mix of what's really going on is what I used in preparation for the role."
Prior to getting the role, he hadn't watched any of the "Stargate" series. The three-hour pilot explores what he calls a parallel with the events of Katrina. Only the situation is aboard a space ship.
"Because in the same way people were thrown into the Superdome as the result of something tragic,"Smith said, "we're all thrown into one place and we can't leave. We have no communication with the outside world, so that's something that I was able to draw upon, from the experience of something that our people went through."
There's even a scene where one of the characters is marking doors of the ship with an "X" to count the number of survivors and the dead. Smith noted that this is very a similar to what he had seen in Spike Lee's documentary, "When the Levees Broke."
Not only are the themes recognizable to people of color, but Smith in preparing for the role, drew from his experience in the Black church.
"Working on this show I often think of and draw from the experience of the Black church," he said, "because there is something very spiritual and very grounding about the idea of trying to get home. Something's that's very interesting about this show and the pilot."
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ISTANBUL, Turkey — Turkey's governing party said Monday it will select a new prime minister at the end of August to replace Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who won the country's first direct presidential election in a historic vote.
The Justice and Development Party, or AKP, will hold its party congress on Aug. 27 to select the new prime minister, who will also be the new party head. Turkey's constitution stipulates the president has to cut ties to any political party after being elected.
No specific name for the premiership was discussed during Monday's meeting, AKP spokesman Huseyin Celik said.
Erdogan won Sunday's election with 51.79 percent, according to election board figures released Monday. Challenger Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu got 38.44 percent and Selahattin Demirtas, a young Kurdish politician, got 9.76 percent. Turnout was 74.13 percent — a relatively low figure for Turkey, where voting is mandatory.
A three-term prime minister who has dominated Turkish politics for more than a decade, Erdogan has been a divisive figure.
He was hammered by anti-government protests over a redevelopment project in Istanbul's Gezi Park last year, as well as over a mining disaster that killed 301 people in May.
He was also implicated in a corruption scandal, along with his son, earlier this year, but rejected the accusations as an attempted coup. The judicial officials involved have been reassigned to other posts or fired, and dozens of police have been arrested.
His critics accuse him of an increasingly autocratic style of governance and for allegedly trying to impose his religious and conservative mores on a nation built on secularism.
But his supporters revere him as a champion of the people who has steered Turkey to years of economic prosperity.
"Given the anti-government protests last summer in response to Erdogan's perceived authoritarian tendencies, political tension is likely to remain high as Erdogan seeks to extend the power of the presidency," said the Fitch international ratings agency.
Erdogan, 60, has vowed to transform the presidency from a largely ceremonial post into a powerful position.
Although a bid before the election to achieve this through a constitutional amendment failed, he has said he will activate the post's dormant powers — a legacy of a 1980 coup — including the ability to call parliament and summon Cabinet meetings.
"Erdogan got what he wanted," Murat Yetkin, Editor-in-Chief of the Hurriyet Daily News, wrote in an editorial Monday. "He wanted to consolidate all the executive power in his hands and now he has the chance and capacity for that."
Whoever replaces Erdogan as premier would hold the position until next year, when a general election is due. There is no official contender, although several names have emerged in the media, including outgoing President Abdullah Gul and Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu.
Gul, who co-founded the AKP with Erdogan, said on Monday he would "return to my party" after the end of his term, which expires on Aug. 28. But he refused to be drawn on whether that meant he would consider the premiership.
Although formerly very close, Gul and Erdogan have drifted apart in recent years, with Gul sometimes questioning the government's actions.
There has been speculation that the newly elected president would want to appoint a pliant prime minister so he could retain the true power himself — a role Gul would be unlikely to perform.
In his victory speech Sunday night, Erdogan struck a conciliatory tone toward critics who fear he is bent on a power grab as he embarks on another five years at the country's helm.
"I will not be the president of only those who voted for me. I will be the president of 77 million," he vowed.
Not everyone was convinced.
"For me, he is not my president. I'm the people but he is not my president. First of all, the elections period wasn't fair," said Sener Gunduz, a surveyor in Istanbul.
International election monitors who visited a limited number of polling stations said Sunday's vote was "generally organized in a professional and efficient manner." But they said unbalanced campaign coverage strongly favored Erdogan.
"The prime minister's use of his official position, along with biased media coverage, gave him a distinct advantage over the other candidates," the OSCE said.
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Yes, there is an "Anything But Chardonnay" club, dubbed "ABC", that from what I gather is anti anything Chardonnay. While I am not a club member, I have become mostly disenfranchised with Chardonnay. Or at least Chardonnay NOT from Burgundy. Chablis, the steely crisp Chardonnay from the Chablis region, or White Burgundy….YUM – Love it (or at least some of it)! Yet much (but of course not all) of the other stuff – POSERS!
I'm no Francophile, but I do believe that there is something magical about the wines of Burgundy. Pinot Noir's best expression seems to come from Burgundy. Sure I've had some other charming Pinot Noir, but none has ever seemed as magical, complex, primal, balanced & long-lived as some of the Burgundy I've been fortunate to taste.
But I digress…
Getting back to Chardonnay, I attended a tasting of white wines last week. We started the tasting with 5 Chardonnays – all made in Israel at different wineries. The first two were "unoaked" Chardonnays. I do enjoy a good crisp white, but these unoaked Chard's underwhelmed. The focus seemed more on the acidity (a vital component) than the fruit, and the resulting wines seemed bitter and unbalanced. Two of the next 3 were oaked, but sadly the oak dominated and masked any fruit that may have been hiding underneath. I did enjoy 1 of the 5 Chard's. It seemed to have the right balance between fruit, acid, oak & cream.
Now I mention cream, but no, there was no dairy product added. In addition to the primary fermentation (that converts sugar into alcohol) in wine, there is a secondary fermentation known as "malolactic" fermentation that converts bitter "malic" acid into CREAMY "lactic" acid. This is where the buttery or creamy flavors in Chardonnay come from.
I don't want to get too carried away with the technical aspects here, but I do want to tie in to the ABC (anything but Chardonnay) club. Chardonnay is made in cool climates (apples & peaches), moderate climates (honeydew & pears) and warm climates (pineapple & lichee). It can be 100% oak aged, or it can be partially (33%, 50%, 66%, etc.) oak aged. It can have a full malolactic, or a partial malolactic. It can be bready as a result of "sur lie" – a process whereby the dead yeast cells are left in contact with the wine and stirred around to add complexity & yeast flavors.
There are so many ways Chardonnay can be made. Personally I think the best examples originate in Burgundy. Yet while I may not be a fan of lots of the Chardonnay out there, I am often surprised by a winemakers ability to make the right style Chardonnay for his fruit.
So if you have had a bad Chardonnay & have considered joining the ABC club, I implore you not to give up. Keep an open mind, taste when you can, and when all else fails pick up a White Burgundy.
Happy Chardonnay Wine Tasting!


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Robert Pattinson Trades His Beard For Biceps
Robert Pattinson was all smiles during a workout session in LA on Friday, showing off his new goatee while meeting with a personal trainer. Wearing a t-shirt and shorts, he seemed to be relaxed, enjoying exercise after a night out for the 6th annual Go Go Gala, where he first debuted his new facial hair. At the event, Rob chatted with guests and posed for pictures with host Adam Shankman before participating in the auction and winning a cello made of recycled materials.
Rob's smiley outing comes amid rumors that he's romancing Sean Penn and Robin Wright's daughter, Dylan Penn. The two have been out and about separately, though, with Dylan dining out with her dad and Jon Hamm on Wednesday. Over the weekend, Rob had a guys' night in West Hollywood, hanging out with a few male friends after he was spotted reuniting with ex-girlfriend Kristen Stewart a couple weeks earlier near his home in LA.


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Congratulations, you have finally been promoted to Manager! You have recently shown an interest in, and aptitude for, the inner workings and strategy of this wiki, and I think it's time you took the lead on a few more issues. The role of Manager has recently changed slightly: it is now a lead administrator, looking after the team, being a point-of-contact for users and staff, figuring out what works needs to be done, inspiring users to contribute, and leading discussions on policy/strategy. It is not about decision-making, it's about leadership, organisation, and project and resource management - but it's still a step beyond the administrator role. I'd like to see you leading some cleanups, reviewing old templates/infoboxes, cleaning up the project namespace, and inspiring users to do more. Good luck! Gboyers 12:03, 28 October 2010 (BST)
- Just to add my congratulations on the promotion! A-Dust 13:46, 28 October 2010 (BST)
Game names in articles
Regarding this. My policy actually is that in sentences, you should use the short form (GTA San Andreas). Same with article titles (except for the games themselves) and categories. I really hate sentences like on Cheetah: "The Cheetah is a two-door sports car that has appeared in Grand Theft Auto III, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories and Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories" - these should be changed to use short-form game names. Gboyers 08:56, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Makes sense to me (hence I made that edit), but the part of the policy that I was referring to was the following from the consistency policy:
- In articles, the game's name should be shown in full once. After that, an abbreviated version can be used without a colon.
- It was obvious to me that what the original editor was doing (with in GTA San Andreas, Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories, (etc)) was using short form for GTA SA due to it already having been mentioned, and long form for LCS due to it not having already been mentioned, and I changed it to all use short form to make it easier to read (like you say). JFletcherTalk (formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever) 09:12, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Sorry I'd forgotten about that - yes that policy is right to an extent. If you mention one game in the first sentence, use the long form. (IE the XYZ is a car in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas). If you need a list, use the short form. If you repeat a game's name, use the short form. I would like the words "Grand Theft Auto" to appear on every page, but I don't want articles to be clogged up with it 30x. Gboyers 09:16, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- That actually clears up something that I've been thinking about for quite a while (such as the articles like Cheetah, and cases like the edit you linked to). Thanks for that! JFletcherTalk (formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever) 09:21, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
I rewrote the consistency policy to be clearer on this, but that needs merging with Grand Theft Wiki:Style Guide at some point. Gboyers 19:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
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Ah, thanks for pointing that out. I was wondering what that icon was meant for. - ZS 10:16, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
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Hi, could you please fill out your section of the table at Grand Theft Wiki:Staff/Roles? That page explains the reasons, but we're just trying to assign staff some responsibility and ownership of their own sections, and give you a bit more room to do what you want to do. Thanks - Gboyers 00:37, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
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I applied to become promoted to Inspector or Administrator of the Grand Theft Wiki. When does the actual "election" take place? Because I would love to become the inspector and help out the wiki! :)
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Hey man, exactly like you guys, habbo.wikia.com is likely departing Wikia. Is there any chance I can ask how you copied over your content? Btw can you recommend a wikifarm or a host? Thank you! -Imdill3 00:23, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much! lol yeah, the final straw was when Wikia made that 'purchase an ad' thing on the bottom of every article. It makes it look like it's apart of the article. Seems on Runescape Wiki, they're only used for scam/hacking sites and rival wikis O_o. Anyways, thanks again- after this project I will be proudly editing again for GTW. -Imdill3 14:27, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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I am interested in getting the page OFLC renamed to Australian Classifacation Board because that is now the official name of Australia's OFLC. How would I go about this? Klltr 08:17, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
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What's your problem bro? Why are you telling me to grow-up? I didn't even do anything? Grand Theft AJ 04:16, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- I received an e-mail that a page I created the talk for Ultimate Disk in the Dark was deleted and a message with you stating "Grow up kid? Really?" or something along those lines. But I don't recall writing anything that would earn that type of response. Also I can't see what I said because the page was deleted and there is no History. Was this directed at sometihng I had typed or was there another addition to the page that I wasn't informed about via e-mail? Grand Theft AJ 04:46, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- Haha, no no, I'm the one who was misunderstood. Thanks for clearing that up, I was just a little confused at first. Grand Theft AJ 05:48, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Wikia has been receiving reports from your wiki that a user has been copying stuff from this wiki and adding them on GTA wiki without attribution could you confirm this--Owen1983 23:29, 27 May 2011 (BST)
wikia has dealt with the user and revoked his admin right I to find his behavior unacceptable failure to supply attribution breaks your policy and fails to recognize your community which is damn right rude---Owen1983 13:31, 28 May 2011 (BST)


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Monday, April 23, 2007
Salesforce.com unbundling its platform from its apps
Over the past few years, salesforce.com has been gradually morphing itself from an on-demand CRM vendor to a platform for software-as-a-service (SaaS) generally. It started by first allowing extensive customer-specific customization of its CRM applications and integration with legacy or third-party systems. Then it provided a complete development environment, including test capabilities separate from production. Then it opened up its SaaS platform to third-party developers to write complementary applications. This week it announced the next logical step: it is allowing customers to buy access to its platform without buying its CRM application.
Salesforce.com Platform Edition allows customers to take advantage of other applications in its AppExchange marketplace, or, it allows customers to start from scratch and write their own custom applications. Details on Platform Edition are on the salesforce.com website.
The evolution of salesforce.com further enhances software-as-a-service as a viable alternative to traditional on-premise software. The only drawback to this approach I see is that it ties the entire IT infrastructure of the customer to salesforce.com. If you think vendor lock-in is a problem today with traditional vendors, such as Microsoft, Oracle, and SAP, imagine what it will be like when your entire technology stack--from hardware, OS, database, and application--is tied to a single provider.
I'm a big fan of SaaS, but I still haven't figured out how to get around the vendor lock-in problem.
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Sunday, April 15, 2007
IT services in a SaaS world
Chris Barbin makes the case for a new kind of systems integrator, uniquely focused on implementation and support of software-as-a-service (SaaS) solutions. In his article on Sandhill.com, he writes about these "Services 2.0" providers that are "dramatically altering the system integrator (SI) landscape."This new breed of specialized firms fully embrace SaaS with complementary business and technology consulting, productized intellectual property, and support services via flexible social networks will be disruptive to traditional Global Systems Integrators (GSI)- such as Accenture, IBM, Cap Gemini, and Infosys – who are just as addicted as the ISVs themselves to revenue streams based on the on-premise install base.Now, Barbin is CEO of Appirio, which just happens to be an implementation services provider for SaaS vendor Salesforce.com, so it's not as if he is a neutral observer. Nevertheless, his argument is persuasive. Large global implementations of major on-premise systems such as SAP and Oracle, supported by large global service providers, such as IBM, Accenture, Cap Gemini, Infosys, and others, are notoriously expensive, difficult, time-consuming, and risky. If SaaS solutions, such as Salesforce.com, Omniture, and SuccessFactors offer to diminish the pain associated with on-premise solutions, then by extension, there must be a service-provider approach that diminishes the pain of the traditional implementation effort.
Drivers of Services 2.0
Although SaaS as an viable alternative to on-premise software has been around for at least seven to ten years, it is only recently that this new breed of service providers have sprung up to provide an alternative to the traditional system integration approach.For early adopters of SaaS ISVs like salesforce.com, initial services requirements were limited to basic configuration, end user training and minor customizations. In the last few years, services requirements have become more substantial because the increased flexibility of platforms like Salesforce have allowed enterprises to move from single-department SaaS "experiments" to global rollouts of thousands of users.In other words, as platforms such as Salesforce.com's have become more powerful, allowing customization and easy integration with third-party solutions, the opportunity for additional value-added services has grown. These include creation of "mash-ups" that combine SaaS-system functionality with Web 2.0 services, such as Google Maps and other web-services in unique combinations. The sheer scale of some Salesforce.com implementations, reaching tens of thousands of seats, has also increased the need for extensive system integration services around SaaS.
Customers benefit greatly from the combination of SaaS with Services 2.0: faster implementation, more customized solutions, and much lower costs. Barbin says,The pendulum has swung from the early ERP days ($10-$15 for every dollar in licenses), to the SMB days of SaaS (10 cents for every dollar in subscription) - and will settle for enterprise customers at $2-4 for every dollar of subscription license revenue.Threat to the Big System Integrators?
Barbin makes the case that the large IT service providers will not be able to make the transition to Services 2.0. "The reliance on mega-transactions, considerable corporate overhead, and inability to move quickly will hamper these firms' ability to lead in the Services 2.0 world," he writes. "These firms are fully dependent upon the services revenue generated their customers' lock-in on on-premise software."
In this respect, Services 2.0 is a disruptive innovation to the big system integration firms, just as SaaS is disruptive to the major on-premise software providers. I doubt it will be the death of IBM, Accenture, and Infosys, but watch for growth in system integrator deals to be elsewhere in the coming years.
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Saturday, April 14, 2007
The economics of open source
Dirk Riehle has written an interesting paper for IEEE on the economic motivations of stakeholders in open source software. Riehle leads the open source research group at SAP Research, a research organization within SAP that identifies emerging IT trends and conducts R&D activities for new technologies. As such, Riehle's insights are interesting in that they may reflect the view toward open source within SAP.
There are a wide range of business models within open source. Reihle points out that there are actually two main forms of open source: community open source (products that are owned and developed by a community of developers) and commercial open source (products that are owned by a single commercial organization). The Apache web server is an example of community open source, while MySQL is an example of commercial open source.
Three stakeholders
He then goes on to analyze the economic incentives of open source from the perspective of three groups of stakeholders: system integrators, software vendors (closed source and open source), and individual developers/employees.
Of the three groups, system integrators stand the most to gain from open source. Open source takes out a large part of the system integrator's cost structure, the part that goes toward software. This frees up money for the client to spend on additional services, or allows the system integrator to lower its price-point, making its services more affordable and increasing volume. System integrators prefer community open source, because its cost is lower than commercial open source, and there is no "vendor lock-in" to the owner of the software.
There's a lot more in Reihle's paper, including an analysis of the impact of open source on the software developer profession. In short, open source "makes life more complicated for employees." On the one hand, a developer supporting an open source product can be more easily replaced by an outsider that has similar experience with the same product. On the other hand, a good open source developer can build expertise that has value to other employers, increasing his or her marketability. He writes,Winners and losers
A developer who chooses the right project can gain and maintain a position that will increase salary-negotiation power and job prospects. The developer will enjoy those benefits as long as the project is of significance to potential employers.Open source reinforces the trend toward employees becoming "free agents."
Reihle's article does a good job in explaining the economic incentives by open source. To me, it makes it easy to understand why IBM--which is today largely a services firm--is one of the strongest proponent of open source, especially community open source.
It also suggests why many traditional vendors of closed source products seem to have such a hard time with profitability these days, leading to the huge amount of acquisition/consolidation activity we've witnessed in the past five years. Unless you are an 800 pound gorilla (like Reihle's employer, SAP), the cost-structure of closed source development is just not a good way to make money. In many markets, it might just be better to embrace some sort of open source development and make money higher up the value stack, in maintenance, support, integration, and customization.
I think we are still early in the development of business models around open source. Ten years from now, things will be clearer.
There's a good discussion on Slashdot, on Reihle's article.
For another good piece on the economics of open source, see Bruce Perens's article, The Emerging Economic Paradigm of Open Source.
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Tuesday, April 03, 2007
Lawson upbeat on Q1 forecast
Well, maybe Harry Debes was right. Back in January, Lawson's CEO wrote me to say that his firm's financial performance was better than observers were giving it credit for.
Now, in forecasting its first quarter earnings, Lawson said today that it expects Q1 revenue to come in at $190 to $192 million, well above its previous forecast of $181 to $190 million. After the announcement, Lawson's share price peaked at its highest point since March 2004, finishing the day about 10% higher that the previous day's close.
Lawson is still digesting its 2005 acquisition of Intentia, and related costs are still impacting financial performance. From an accounting perspective, organizational perspective, and technical perspective, I have a feeling that the merger job was bigger than Lawson expected. Hopefully, Lawson can put that work behind it and move on to build even more momentum. Although I wasn't able to attend Lawson's user conference down the road in San Diego this year, I did hear about some good things, including a tighter reliance on IBM for Lawson's technical architecture, which frees up Lawson's resources to focus on business applications.
It will be interesting to see the details behind Lawson's performance when the final numbers come in. I'll be looking to see whether the results are due to a pick up in new deals or a change in the rate of deferred license revenue, which Debes explained in his correspondence to me in January. If Lawson's new deal flow is picking up, it would be a good sign not only for Lawson but for the enterprise system market in general. Lawson's results would be consistent with Oracle's most recent quarter, which were outstanding, and contrary to SAP's, which were weak.
We'll have to wait until April 9 to find out, however. Lawson announced yesterday that it is delaying its quarterly report because of a need to review restructuring charges from the Intentia acquisition.
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Yesterday, 'Race to the Sun' Paris-Nice began with a 2.9km prologue north-west of the French capital. While surprise package Damien Gaudin (Europcar) stole the honours from established TT specialists Sylvain Chavanel and Lieuwe Westra, BikeRadar snooped around to see what time trial kit was on show.
We noted the arrival of Merida's Warp in the pro peloton, and also some new gear such as Uvex' Race 4 short distance lid, seen on the Argos-Shimano squad. Most notable, perhaps, was the debut of TriRig's centre-pull brakes, at Cofidis.
Despite the short distance teams brought their full range of gear to Paris, most of it tried and tested through 2012. A tranche of new showings is expected later in the year – a successor to the Ridley Dean, for example, and new carbon materials from Mavic.
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October 2011 4Word - EditorialPosted in Features on October 1, 2011
We've changed our name! After a couple of decades, 4Wheel Drive & Sport Utility Magazine is now 4Wheel Drive Magazine. The "sport utility" portion of the title was confusing people, even at Source Interlink Media, our parent corporation. Every time we wrote about trucks or a 4x4 vehicle that wasn't a utility or sport utility vehicle, we'd hear about how we were supposed to cover sport utilities only. That's not true.
From the beginning, we've been interested in anything that has all four wheels driven, whether it's a truck, utility vehicle, or…Yes, we cover Jeeps, Land Cruisers, Broncos, Samurais, and even Scouts, but that doesn't preclude us from writing about or doing other 4x4 project vehicles, such as trucks of any size. The Ford Raptor is a superb truck that's perfect for high-speed backcountry exploring, and I've just procured a 2011 Chevrolet Colorado Z71 4x4 with 5.3L V-8 that's going to be built into a backcountry-exploring truck in these pages.
Back in the day, Tom McMullen had approached me about becoming editor of his 4x4 magazine. It had started as 4WD Action, and Tom said his partner, Ken Yee, wanted to shut the title down. I thought there needed to be a magazine dedicated to our four-wheeling niche: backcountry exploring for individuals, families, and clubs, plus the vehicles able to do it — minus the bikini girls. After all, we weren't Playboy or Sports Illustrated. After some whining about no sex in the magazine, he told me we should come up with a name and logo, and then run with it.
After doing some thinking, I thought the title should simply be 4Wheel Drive Magazine. Tom suggested that since sport utility vehicles were all the rage, we should add that to the name. As it's never advisable to argue with the boss, especially one who just handed you your dream job, I said that would be fine with me, except we should add the ampersand so that we could cover anything 4x4. Tom agreed, and I shortly showed him the logo I had designed. 4WD&SU was born.
After a couple of months, John Stewart, then editor of Four Wheeler magazine, called and told me that, while he applauded my efforts at covering the family/club/backcountry exploring world of 4-wheel drive, it would never fly. He said advertisers wouldn't buy into it. I respected John, but told him we would just have to see. I heard the same, or similar, from many industry insiders. Two years later, I ran into John at the SEMA Show. He said, "I guess I have to eat my words." Yes, 4WD&SU was successful. So successful, in fact, that other magazines were ditching chrome shock features and covering the backcountry, too.
As for Tom's suggestion about adding "sport utility" to the name, many called (and still call) 4WD&SU just Sport Utility Magazine, so Tom's contribution was valid. Unfortunately, in today's society, sport utility has become a bad term. Notice that very few manufacturers call their vehicles sport utes anymore. They have crossovers, cross vehicles, etc., but there are no sport utilities to be found. This is stupid, but a fact nevertheless. We'll get used to calling our title 4Wheel Drive Magazine.
I'd like to thank our loyal readers over the years. You're the reason we do what we do, and all the staff appreciate your loyalty. Other than the title change (and maybe some art/layout changes), our content will remain the same. We'll continue to cover individual/family/club backcountry exploring and the vehicles that do it. We plan to do more exploring, finding new places to go. Many of our favorite places are now closed, or so crowded that it's hard to get away from it all when off-roading there.
4Wheel Drive Magazine it now is. Did I mention it's easier to write than 4Wheel Drive & Sport Utility Magazine? It is.


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mac5155 wrote:shmenguin wrote:mac5155 wrote:is that a secada or locust or whatever you call them? the things that dive bomb you?
my neighbor had a huge tree tht must have been filled with them. I was all smiles when it fell last week during the bad storm.
nah, they have big disgusting bodies with smaller wings. they dive bomb because their horrible, demonic eyes can't see anything. i've seen a few of their shells in my back yard...thinking of paying someone else to mow my lawn for the rest of the year...
my pap always said they came around once every 17 years or something.. but they do seem to be bad this year as opposed to last. i remember one summer being terrified to go outside because of them, and they were bad in bedford Co. one year driving to NJ we could barely see out the windshield from them hitting the car.
While the familiar green-and-black Dog-Day Cicadas are present every July and August in small numbers, the Periodical Cicadas appear, simultaneously, only once in seventeen years in any given area. Periodical cicadas do not emerge everywhere at the same time. Twelve broods of 17-year cicadas appear in different areas of the northeastern U.S. in different years, emerging from late May through June. Their bright red eyes and reddish markings distinguish the Periodical Cicadas from the Dog-Day Cicadas which emerge later in the summer (July through August) and have green markings. Each brood actually consists of up to three separate species which all emerge together. Each looks slightly different and the males of each species court their ladies with a different serenade. If a human takes the time to listen and try to sort out what seems to be cacophony, he or she can easily distinguish these three songs.


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I never saw the movie, but here's the battle report anyway.
There's the plane...
...the pilot...
...the inside of the plane... but where's the snakes?
Ah, there they come.
The snakes kill the first passenger.
The kid tries to kill a snake by force-feeding it a carrot. It fails.
The stewardess opens fire, killing a snake. And the kid too.
The snakes attack and kill the last passenger.
The stewardess tries to shoot the snakes, but her gun is too long.
Then she dies.
The pilot decides not to stick around any longer.
He leaps out of the plane.
Without a pilot, the plane crashes and explodes, killing the remaining snakes.
It might have seemed like a crazy thing to jump off the plane, but don't worry; he's got a parachute!
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At the end of last season, Toll Gate wrestling coach Jerry Sabatelli was a little concerned about what the future held. He had some young talent but also some glaring holes in the upper weight classes. There wasn't a wrestler coming back who weighed more than 170 pounds.
But that young talent is easing Sabatelli's mind.
Not only are those Titans working hard and gearing up for big seasons, they also made a big recruiting pitch in the school. As a result, the Titans and their young core should be able to fill most of the weight classes.
That's enough to make Toll Gate optimistic about the present and the future.
"They're motivated," Sabatelli said. "They knew at the end of last year we needed bodies and they've taken it upon themselves to recruit guys for those upper weight classes, because they're thinking ahead. They got a little taste of being in first place last year. It kind of fell apart on us, and they don't want that to happen again."
The Titans started last season with nine wins in their first 10 dual meets, but injuries created some big holes in the lineup late in the year and the Titans ended up finishing in the middle of the pack.
Toll Gate lost stand-out Josh Travers to graduation, as well as heavyweight Robbie Connell, but Sabatelli thinks the team can once again contend for the division title.
The newfound depth should only help the cause.
"If everything goes well and we stay healthy and the kids stay motivated, we should be able to fill the lineup and compete," Sabatelli said. "We're excited. We've got about 23 active guys and they're motivated. They're coming every day. Each day, we're building. Hopefully it continues. I think we'll contend in Division II."
The optimism starts with Toll Gate's young core, a group that includes juniors Austin Medeiros and Joe Martinez and sophomores Dave Navilliat, Max Procopio and Aaron Travers.
Medeiros had a big sophomore season last year, making waves in tournament action before finishing fifth in the 103-pound weight class at states.
In the new weight-class system going into effect this year, Medeiros is slated to wrestle at 106, and he's already off to a strong start. Wrestling in the Southern Rhode Island Newspapers Tournament last weekend, Medeiros won the 106-pound title.
Martinez and Travers have the potential to join Medeiros as state-meet contenders. Both were a match away from placing at states last year. Travers took second at 126 over the weekend.
"We're looking for big things out of them," Sabatelli said. "They're a year older and they look good. I think they'd be disappointed if they didn't place."
Procopio was a full-time starter as a freshman last year and took third at 120 in the Southern Rhode Island tourney.
Navilliat was putting together a strong freshman campaign last year before an injury ended his season. He's back now, and he grabbed a fourth-place finish at 160 over the weekend.
"He's tough as nails," Sabatelli said. "He's a guy who probably would have had a shot to place at states last year, and he definitely would have been a freshman state champ anyway. We're hoping he does well."
The Titans also have senior Tim McCorkle, junior Justin Allen and sophomore John DiGiuseppe back in the fold. All had solid showings as regulars in the lineup last year. Senior Dante Procopio is also back after not wrestling last year.
With 23 active wrestlers on the roster, several other wrestlers could make a push for spots in the lower weight classes. In the upper weights, the Titans are young but are happy to be filling the spots. Sophomores Matt Cullen, Joe Mercurio and Tim Warner and freshman Eddie Pierce are among the newcomers.
"They're raw, and when you're dealing with the upper weight classes, you're going against the older kids who are a little more mature," Sabatelli said. "I've already told them, 'Your job is to gain experience this year.' Pick up a win here or there and help the team, even better. I had planned on forfeiting those weight classes because at the end of last year, I had nobody above 170. These guys are a bonus."
If everybody sticks together, there could be good things ahead for the Titans. The future looks bright.
"We're excited," Sabatelli said. "What's exciting is we've got talent that's young and new talent that's young. Hopefully, we can stay competitive for the next couple of years."
And they plan to start now.
"I think we can make a strong run at our division, hopefully get into that top-five range at the sectional and see if we can get a couple of guys to place at states," Sabatelli said. "We're looking forward to it."
Toll Gate is scheduled to open its dual-meet season on Thursday with a 7 p.m. home match against Smithfield.


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This is a shot I took of Scott Seekins only this afternoon, a relatively famous local guy in the art scene of Minneapolis. Scott is well known for his bizarre homage art to Brittany Spears as well as his choice in wardrobe through seasons. In Summer he wears all white, in winter he wears all black.
Camera 7D
Lens Canon efs 17-55mm
-Patrick Pierson
My window is the only "real" light source anywhere near my room, which is isolated from every other bedroom in the house. Took the photo from the dark laundry room facing towards my room. The light coming from the window really bounced off the white walls to make it bright and contrasted.
Shot with Panasonic DMC-GF1, 14mm at f/3.5, ISO 400, B/W preset.
-Kaleho Naki
This is a picture I took with a crappy point and shoot my Mom gave me after she broke up with her loser boyfriend. The handsome subject is my pensive and pragmatic friend Gambit. He has a natural ability to solve crime and bang dames (bitches in his case). I took the photo in color and then jacked with the contrast and saturation obviously.
-James Stevens
Rebel t1i
Stock kit lens 18-55mm
Shot deep within the Catskills we stumbled across this abandon gem. Shot in a ten shot HDR then post processed with Photomatix, Lightroom and lastly magic bullet to give it the nice Noir effect.
-Jonathon Share
This is a picture of my son (19) playing guitar in his room. I noticed striking effect of the light from the window silhouetting him and thought of this contest. I grabbed my camera, snapped the photo, and then threw it into Photoshop to get rid of the color and make the contrast a little more extreme. My son liked it so much it's his current Facebook profile picture.
Shot with my Nikon D3100, 1/640, F3.5, ISO 400, 18-55mm standard zoom lens, manual focus.
-Vak Beacon
So there was nothing on TV tonight, and I had a couple of new optics for my Lensbaby Scout, so I went outside as the sun was setting to see if I could get a couple of good shots with sunset light. I stayed out after the sun went down to see if I could then get some moonlit shots w/clouds and/or trees/streetlamps. No such luck, so I ended up taking this picture of my front porch light. I'm by no means anywhere near being a professional, but I like the challenge of manual aperture, manual focus that the Lensbaby presents.
As far as settings used :
Canon T1i body on a tripod w/wired remote
Lensbaby Scout with Sweet 35 optic
35mm focal length (hence, sweet 35 name of optic)
1/160th sec exposure time (I was using Av mode, so not everything was manual)
No flash
Used Picasa on my Macbook Pro to edit :
used "I'm feeling lucky"
used "warmify"
used "black&white"
manually adjusted the fill light just a little bit after the above 3 steps.
-Matt Akins
I shot this with my Canon T2i with the kit lens 18-55. i used the natural light that was going into my goes at night with a long exposure..
I always liked Agent P, so I thought i would used him for this my first shooting challenge.
-Arnold Martinez
This shot was taken by the lake of Zurich as we're always looking for new challenges (jumping in the lake, not taking photos). The flagpole was pretty tempting during the whole summer. My best friend Key now finally did it and climbed that thing to the top as it were a caribbean palm tree. I used a Canon EOS 550D with a Tamron 18-270mm lens and a 270UV filter.
-Michael Muller
My girl and I got into the mood. I shaved and she did make up. I got my suit and fedora and she got her hair done. So we grabbed our gear and headed to the town over. It was fun going through alleys, streets and businesses. We had lots of good shots, yet we had a hard time choosing one. Well here is the best of us together. Sony A230, f/4.5, 1/2s exposure, ISO-400, 28mm focal length with a tungsten WB. All in all, we love it. Hope you guys like too.
-Felix Garcia
Pip Noir
Upon seeing the subject for this week's contest, I honestly found myself utterly uninspired. I was staring at my desk, feeling useless when I noticed the bobble-head staring back at me. I started to think about how this iconic character is used to exemplify pure good and pure evil based on the person playing the Fallout games. With inspiration in hand, I set up the shot: 1 desk-lamp at a 90 degree angle on his left, 1 lava lamp turned on it's side from behind facing the camera. I screwed on a +2 diopter for a macro effect, and the shot was made. I then desaturated the color in post-processing, which gave the shot an added atmosphere that I feel suits the theme.
Camera Data: Model:NIKON D40
Shutter Speed:1/20 second
Focal Length:46 mm
ISO Speed:200
-Sean Evans
"Caged Bird"
I've been following Gizmodo's Shooting Challenge for some time now but never actually gotten round to taking part. Since purchasing my NEX-5, I knew this week's challenge was the one that I would take part in. The inspiration for this photo came awhile ago when I noticed in pitch darkness that an LED shining through some metal shelving created a nice shadow pattern on the wall.
The lightsource from the photo came from my phone, via a flashlight app. The light was placed such that it shone through the shelving and onto the wall. The object was positioned on the shelving, creating what we see here. I guess the funny thing is that this object that was used to create the image of a bird is actually a whale; it is in fact my niece's pink rubber whale, the size of a small rubber ducky. The problem with the whale was that it's silhouette never looked like a one. I discovered that by adjusting the pose and position of the whale and of the lightsource, its silhouette could be made to look like an elongated fish. In this photo, using a fair bit of imagination, it looks like a plump tasty bird, trapped in a birdcage. I used the in-camera picture effect of "black and white posturisation" to hide the flaws in my physical setup, to darken the shadows and to exaggerate the ribs of the cage. The final result is somewhat striking and comical. No post-production editing involved.
NEX 5, SEL18-55 lens at 21mm, f/4, 1/2 sec, ISO 1600, with "Black and While Posturisation" in camera effect.
-Tony So
Shock and awe, and shock.
Canon T2i, 18-55mm lens, ISO 6400, f4.5(ish), shutter speed 0.5seconds (or so).
-Aaron Kapelus
This is shot is from the backyard a custom car builder. He has a lot of vintage car memorabilia and along with all of his cool signs was a classic Quik Save gas sign just reminding me how much it cost me to get there.
Nikon D40 w/ 50mm 1.4 Manual Lens. Iso 100 f/2.0 Shutter 1/60
-Justin Tyler Ekema
This is my first time entering the Shooting Challenge and my first week in my new home in Boston. I wanted to be inspired by the sights and sounds of my new home and this downtown statue of Benjamin Franklin provided the right venue. I walked circles around Mr. Franklin trying to capture the best combination of light and contrast. I wanted to capture the intended style with natural light. I decided to keep some color because polarization from the morning light coming through the clouds seemed to add to the mood. Shot with Canon 7D, ISO100, EF24-105mm, f/22, 1/500s.
-Brian Jones
For this picture I used the camera Nikon D5100 and a normal Sony tripod. I did not use the flash on my camera instead I used a flashlight to have more control as this photo is a self portrait.
The texture on my face is actually a facial made from mineral in the Dead Sea. As it dries over time, the dried areas become a light gray whereas the other parts are still green. I waited for around 30 minutes until the mask started becoming the design I wanted it to be.
-Maysam Alani
After seeing this challenge, I stare blankly at the screen thinking what to make. Then it came to my mind, I actually looking at the most even and modifiable light source in the whole world, the monitor. Why not use it?
After trying a few hours using a couple of model with a couple of background, I finally chose the Chris Redfield statue I got from RE:5 special edition. Then I start trying cloud, fire or explosion backgrounds, everything just doesn't seem fit. Then I remember about PS emulator(I know) and remember how classic and awesome the RE 2 and 3 are.
Then I set my tripod, make a mini black mountain by piling stuff and cover it with a mouse pad and put Chris there. Play the endings of RE:3. Shoot some, edit it with lightroom and photoshop to add dramatic effect.
And there you go...Chris staring blankly at Racoon city where it all began and should have ended. The irony.
60D 24mm f/7.1 1/30 ISO800
-Zefanya Hanata
Our south facing windows let in a lot of sunlight making mid-day naps sometimes difficult to achieve, but it gives my daughter enough light to stay mesmerized by her mobile, and just enough to provide a great noir scene. Shot using a Canon EOS REBEL T2i, f/3.5, 1/30, ISO-100, 18mm.
-Kris Balow
There's not too much to it I guess. Basically I saw this weeks shooting challenge and I thought it would be quite easy. So I took out my camera and for like the second time ever I put it in the B&W mode zoomed so the hand filled the frame to how I wanted it and snapped a picture.
Camera - Sony DSC-T9
F-stop - f/3.5
Exposure Time — 1/30 of a second
Focal length — 6mm
Max aperture — 3.625
-Aaroh Mankad
I am not too happy with my photo this week. I'm even less happy with the crop for the required smaller image needed for submission. I tried to get a shot that utilized last night's full moon as my single source of lighting but none of the photos came out well. I decided to take a shot of my neighborhood street at night with the lamppost acting as the lighting. I like the mood the photo sets: deserted street, dark night, ominous mailboxes... Oh well. Thanks for the challenge. I really enjoy these assignments!
Canon EOS REBEL T1i
EF50mm f1.8 II Lens
-Matthew Johnson
I think I want to.
Panasonic Lumix. Party bound.
-Valerie Carrasquillo
Sony Nex-3
Shutter: 1/30
-Jaclyn Breit
My sister and I always enjoy taking photos together, yet we still have yet to enter Giz challenges but after I saw this challenge I knew now was a better time than ever to give it a try. We decided to shoot an interpretation of the scene from "The Empire Strikes Back" when Hans Solo gets frozen in carbonite and loaded onto Boba Fetts ship. We took about 100 photos and decided this was our favorite. We had a lot of fun and hope you enjoy it!
Equipment: Nikon D3100, 18-55mm, ISO 800, f6.3
-Matt Browning
I visited an arboretum today and I've found a part of an old castle. There was only the frontage left of it, the rest has been torn down: there were trees growing where the rest of the building was supposed to be. The plaster wasn't in the best shape and with the sun shining through the trees, I decided to take the picture.
Nikon D60, 35mm f/1.8; ISO 200, f/2.8, 1/2500 sec., handheld.
-Balazs Albertini
I work in a lab that studies praying mantises so I pulled one out for a photo shoot. I snapped about fifty pictures with my cell phone camera (Motorola Droid X) and loved this one. While I was shooting the mantis would stand mostly in one place but turn its head to follow the light. In a weird way it kind of reminded me of a dog tracking a ball.
ISO: 794 - Shutter speed: 1/15 - f/2.8
-Will Aisenberg
Shot from my girlfriend's balcony off of Van Buren at Racine in Chicago looking East (towards the Loop). This is made of 3 auto-bracketed exposures then worked on in Photoshop Bridge, then Nik Software HDR Efex Pro, then Photoshop CS5. I hadn't really planned on using this shot (shots) for the contest but happened upon Nik HDR Efex Pro's "Monochromatic" preset. I did a lot of tweaking from there, then threw it into Photoshop and used a few filters on it. I think for this to be a true Noir print a la 'Sunset Boulevard' or 'The Bad and the Beautiful' it needs a voice-over narration and for me to die in the end, but neither are happening.
Canon EOS Rebel T2i
Kit lens EF-S18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
8.0, 15.0, 30.0 sec exposures (auto-bracketed)
Photoshop Bridge
Nik HDR Efex Pro
Photoshop CS5
-Rob Lennox
"First on Scene"
So after a night of drinking with friends, we all decided to go out and do the shooting challenge, so you will most likely see "The Detective" show up in a few shots this week as he was our willing model for the shoot. We shot in an alley in downtown (albeit a very nice one) and brought along my lighting equipment and went from there. As a huge noir film fan, this was right up my alley so I specifically wanted to have the back lighting and sharp lighting angles. For the scene itself, I look at this as the beginning of an imaginary film, and maybe if I get the chance, might keep doing photos in this style, I could see some femme fatales showing up to give our Detective a hard time.
Camera: Nikon D7000
Lens: Nikkor 35mm f1.8
Nikon SB-600 Flash
Aperture: f8
Shutter Speed: 1/160
-Marc J. Wrzesinski
I have wanted to start attempting the shooting challenges for a while, but I did not think I would have the chance to attempt this one. While I was enjoying some Live Music with my trusty explorer ,(Panasonic DMC-TZ5) point and shoot, I noticed that the way the lighting was I might get something. Flipped it to Black and White- and some contrast adjusting. I am not a "Photographer" or do I pretend to be I just like pictures.
-RJ Burkey
My roommate Steve (pictured) and I set out to shoot pictures of the Perseid Metor Shower at a golf course nearby. The gratuitous light pollution had other intentions though, as did the park officials that kicked us out (twice). We eventually got some pictures on our college campus, using a walking path light as the light source around 3am. Used Photoshop to enhance the contrast.
Canon T2i - EF 50 mm f/1.8 II
1/40 sec
-Rich Zarick
I read this weeks challenge on Thursday and was immediately inspired to try and produce a shot with the values attributed to the "Film Noir" idea. The subject of the photo is actually a coworker of mine who graciously enough accepted my request for help. Her taste in design at home made for the perfect location to shoot these pics. I wasn't sure I would be able to pull this off but once I got home and took a look, I was pleasantly surprised at how well they came out. This shot I felt truly embodied that feeling of light and shadow, hope and despair, good and evil, as described in the challenge itself. A few friends of mine called it "intriguing" and overwhelmingly liked this shot compared to the others. My hope is that you and the readers here will like it as well. I have a feeling this photo, taken from a simple challenge will be a lasting part of my collection and inspiration for a very long time to come.
I used a normal clip on spot light for the light source as well as limited natural sunlight.
Camera - Sony Alpha 55
F-stop - f/2.8
Exposure time - 1/160 sec.
ISO speed - ISO-1600
Focal Length - 26 mm
Lens - Sigma 18 - 50 f/2.8 Macro
Flash - None
-Paul Bentley
Canon Rebel T1i
18mm - 55mm
10" exposure
Used an external flash with a soft box as the only source of light, had to go into my closet to get a completely dark room.
Edited in Gimp to reduce Saturation.
-Joseph Killebrew
Abandon foundry / warehouse / illegal chemical plant outside of Gary Ind.
We 'got in' (talked to some workers there, they didn't care what we did) and spent an afternoon shooting at the facility. I remembered this contest when I saw the iconic ventilation fan. We found a busted up ladder* and got to the catwalks to set up the shoot. The lighting was challenging since the speed of the fan was constantly changing & my subject was fidgeting. Considering this is straight of the camera, I'm fairly happy with the result. Sadly they will be demolishing the site in 2-3 months. I'm 100% positive I was exposed to asbestos and quite possibly tetanus. I got bonk'd in the head with said ladder.
Canon Rebel XTi
Sigma 10-20mm
-LeAnn Ditter
Remembered this challenge while out walking my dog on the boardwalk on a foggy night, but with no one really out I snapped this pic of Wally here. Take with an iPhone4 Hipstamatic John S lens, and Black Keys Ultrachrome.
-Adam Szachacz
Great challenge for a cool summer evening in Philadelphia. My kind and accommodating boyfriend agreed to a late evening walk so that I could photograph him smoking a cigarette in a hat. I put him in front of a baptist church that has a purple neon cross above its doorway. Could this be Prince's church? Perhaps. Anyway, those photos came out too staged, full of cliches. The shot I am submitting was taken on our walk back from the church in Philadelphia's Fairmount neighborhood. Shot using a Canon 7D, 50-250mm lens at 50mm, 5.6, 1/40, handheld shot about 2 inches above ground. I heard the kids giggling, I saw the kids running, I remembered those long childhood summer nights that seemed to last forever.
-Alexandra Wawrzynek
It was raining fairly hard when I took this picture and I felt the lights playing on the wet surfaces added to the Noir 'mood'. I would've liked to have captured the rain as well but didn't want to ruin my camera (so I was under an umbrella :).
Canon T2i. ISO 400
-Josh Yehaskel
My first thought for this challenge was doing some sort of crime scene photo, so I went to a local party supplies store to buy some cheesy props. However, since both my friend Jen and I are camera shy, we decided to go out and try to find some photo opp that didn't require any models, fake blood or trench coats. We walked around Beacon Hill in Downtown Boston (right where John Kerry and other local celebrities live) and ran across this cool entryway. We played a bit with the lighting (i.e., hesitantly turned on and off some light switch circa 1970) and aperture settings, and ended up with this image. I like that it looks like a movie still, and you can't help but wonder what's happening on the other side of the door.
Now I have no idea what to do with the fake blood, handcuffs, and crime scene tape?
Canon T2i, f2.8, 17mm, 1/30.
-Diego Jimenez
A humorous twist on a serious genre. I used a Sock Monkey as the subject in an attempt to achieve the "Why so serious?" attitude. The lighting was achieved using a flashlight and several coffee filters with varying size holes to achieve such a narrow focus of light. ISO was left at 100 for the shot, exposure seemed best at 15 seconds.
Nikon D5100, 18-55mm Kit Lens
-Geoff Clark
I wasn't entirely sure what would be appropriate, so I decided to enlist a taxi, my girlfriend and her son in which to tell a story and picked a fairly remote location away from too many lights.
The shooting took place for almost an hour doing various poses with the kiddo saying goodbye. They were such great sports. My absolute favorite ones was the flash photo version, but I think this told the story in this genre better.
Sony A55
F-stop 3.5
1/16th exposure
-Rick Villarreal
This weekend we went to the Wilson County Fair outside of Nashville and of course we brought the camera. We decided that the entire day would be shot on manual as Zot is becoming obsessed with learning everything about his new hobby. My son on the left and another boy staring off at the girls catching chickens. We couldn't help but laugh at the thoughts that must have been going through their 8 year old heads as they noticed girls for probably the first time. Shot with a Nikon D90 50mm lens F2.2 and exposure at 1/100.
-Ashley Chavez
I got so excited about this challenge. I've been sort of basking in noir fiction lately... L.A. Noire, Mad Men (well it may not be strictly noir, but it's thematically similar), and count Chinatown and Blade Runner amongst my top 5 favorite movies. For this shoot, I was inspired by the L.A. Noire menu screen. Very cool and evocative... Also, my buddy, (the model), got a lot of photographic attention at my wedding because he was sporting the rat pack look to a T... and our wedding was at Frank Sinatra's pad in Palm Springs.
We set up the shoot in an alley where I live (Redlands, Ca, USA). I parked my car at the end of the alley with the headlights on. I had my buddy throw handfuls of flour in front of the headlights in an attempt to capture the light beams. It worked well in this shot because I was able to get a good shillouette of our model (Ryan Luce). Of course the slight breeze got the flour all over my car, but hey art's forever, right? ;)
Canon Digital Rebel XT
17-85mm zoom @ 30mm
f/22, 2.5 second exposure, ISO 800
B/W conversion in PS CS4 with some minor editing.
-Colin Robertson
Being an older film fanatic, I jumped on the Idea of a film noir challenge. It's probably my favorite since I started doing photo contests. I decided I wanted to take a shot that would be as realistic as possible. The goal was, make it look like it came out of Sunset Boulevard, Touch of Evil, Shadow of a Doubt, or the like. I started out with an 800 ISO to give it some grain and gave it a small f-stop because in the 40's film lenses couldn't handle shallow depth of field very well. Got a few friends to act out a scene. 2 men are at a table planning a heist of some sort. The Femme Fatale is in the foreground with other thoughts about it. Both guns are modified paintball guns, but look real enough.
Canon EOS REBEL T1i
17-85mm EF
1/5 sec exposure
Little bit of Photoshop to add contrast.
-Nikita Ostrovsky
My buddy and I, whose name also happens to be Colin, heard about this challenge and immediately tried to come up with some ideas about what to do. We both sketched up some pretty unique ideas and set about trying to accomplish what we envisioned. My first thought was to have a detective type guy squatting over a chalk outline of a body in a dark alley, trying to fit the pieces together of just what had happened. That shot turned out pretty good and I was happy with it, but then my friend told me we had roof access to his business. We scoped it out and I knew I had to change up my plans. I like the tension in the shot and am curious about what's going to happen to our dear detective. Many thanks to our friend Ryan who was a good sport about being directed by someone who seemed to know exactly what he wanted, and me.
Canon Rebel T3i
.8 second exposure
ISO 6400 for that grainy look
-Colin McLellan
I shot this early this morning (8/15) just as my friends from out of town were pulling out of my driveway to leave for the night. I was sharing a cigarette with my friend when the rain and the car lights reminded me of your contest for this week so I had my friend hold his cigarette out a little to his side and got the shot off before the car turned down the road. I'm a big fan of the bit of smoke coming of the cigarette and I love film noir (favorite= Maltese Falcon).
As far as specs go: Canon 7D at 1/60 at 24 mm with a 24-70 f 2.8 at f/3.5 and ISO 800
All I did was place it in greyscale and a basic grain filter from photoshop.
-Jordan Kenna
This photo was taken on my plane ride this week to Las Vegas, Nevada for a family vacation. Mainly for my parents to get re-maired by Elvis in one of those cheesy chapels. We were flying as I looked out the window and I noticed this amazing site of something I had never seen before! The sky was split into two by a thin line of blue sky. I chose to "Noir" this photo as it increased to dramatic feeling it gave you as you enjoy the amazing site. I had a great trip and this is just one of many photo's I took, I hope you enjoy and look forward to your feedback!
Nikon D5100
Tamron AF 19-270mm
-Chris Petruccio
It poured all day Sunday. In the evening, I got my mother to get out an old raincoat and umbrella that looked appropriate to me, and we went for a walk to the park in the pouring rain. A stroll in the deserted park in a downpour was surprisingly enjoyable. I particularly like this shot because it's pretty bright, so the few things in the photo - figure, bench, trees on either side of the path - show up as silhouettes. The rain on the sidewalk made for some nice reflections, too. This is one of the first successful shots I've taken using the manual settings on my camera (Sony DSC-H20). Or possibly not so successful, since I ended up using iPhoto to adjust shadows, exposure, and contrast a huge amount. Many thanks to my mother for being a very cooperative model.
-Leah Nicolich-Henkin
This shot was taken very "last minute" as I was searching and searching for things to shoot. My (always creative) wife suggested taking a picture of one of our cars in the moonlight, so thats what we did! I know its not your typical "noir" shot, but our car is more photogenic than I am and my wife didn't want to model the shot hehe ;)
The shot is of our 1983 Toyota Supra under the moon light JUST before a storm rolled into town. I tried to capture the lightning behind the car, but my shutter finger was too slow. You are just able to see the edge of the monster thundercloud in this picture. This car has some phenomenal lines and edges to it that would have made a fantastic shot where the body was covered in lines of shadows and light, but I wanted to catch the moon in the shot to add that "noir" feeling so I missed my chance.
Shot with a Canon T2i with a EF50mm f/1.4 at 1/20th of a second, f/1.4 and ISO 800.
-Aaron Judt
I used a Ricoh GRDIII to capture this image. I've pushed up to ISO1600 to get a grainy and less detailed effect. The shooting mode used was Aperture priority and shot in the default camera B/W mode. The shot was taken a couple of months ago in China, Nankun Hill while on a company retreat. I like the eerie atmosphere there with the dripping water and the 3 slabs of stones (this is one of them) engraved with Chinese wordings.
-Raie Hung
The thing is that when I think film noir, I think of Whose Line is it Anyway, as that had been the only place I ever heard the term. So this weeks challenge was a learning challenge too.
After looking at the info from the challenge announcement, I had a number of ideas. Unfortunately, they counted on the cooperation of the weather and other people. Needless to say, the weather did not cooperate, and getting my wife to go along was less than successful. So I ended up using my oldest son as my model. Took him outside to take a number of test shots. Eventually, I had him put my trench coat and hat on, standing next to the car. Sort of a cowboy look juxtaposed with a modern car. Something was still missing, something to change the setting and take the photo to a different place. So I went and got the broad sword I made for a Witch King of Agmar costume I made for Halloween a few years ago, and had him hold it, making for a Cowboy Knight.
Camera- Canon EOS REBEL T2i
Exposure- 1.6
Aperture- f/5.0
Focal Length- 44 mm
ISO Speed- 3200
Exposure Bias- 0 EV
Flash- Off
-John Hays
It has been a very rainy weekend. What goes hand in hand with a dark rainy weekend... THE CROW! So I broke out some awesome action figures put on some Nine inch nails listened to the rain and came out with this snazzy picture.
Canon Rebel XS
18-55 mm
-Gretchen Hargrove
For my Film Noir submission I ended up taking a photo of myself. I setup a tripod in my kitchen and used the oven hood light at the lowest lighting setting. I took about a dozen or more photos as I played around with the camera settings. Raised and lowered the ISO settings, exposure time, aperture, etc. When I finally did have the camera settings I liked, I took about a dozen more photos as I adjusted the lighting. I ended up soaking a paper towel in red wine and covered the light with it. This gave the room a very slight red hue which normally wouldn't make any difference; but since the room was so dark, it actually worked very well.
I must say I really am learning a lot about how to tweak my camera settings as well as different photography techniques and styles. Thanks Gizmo!
Nikon D3100 18-55mm F/3.5-5.6G lens
0.5s Exposure
-Fernando Fernandez
Just finished watching "The Letter" directed by William Wyler. Lots of shadows, window blinds creating lines, moon with clouds casting light...etc. I took some pictures of the moon over the ocean but I wasn't quite happy with them for this specific challenge. The other night, I was coming up the stairs of my parents' condo building and looked down the hall. I grabbed my camera and borrowed my dad's tripod. Fret not, the hallway is actually open, well lit, and looks over a courtyard. I was hoping that a neighbor wouldn't come up the stairs on the other side and think I was a weird girl with a camera. I don't remember my settings (I was on manual) because when I upload pictures, I delete them off my card...
T2i, Vanguard tripod, 18-55mm lens.
-Wai-ling Quist
Cannon t2i 18-135 lens. 100 ISO Aperture 3.5 with 30 sec exposure.
-Jay Johnson
I woke up 30 mins before the deadline and the dreariness of a rainy New York monday morning inspired me to take this shot. i liked the contrast between the iron bars and the filminess of the curtain and the various other materials. Monday morning blues seems like an apt name since I will have to rush to work after sending this.
Taken with Sony Cybershot, ISO 200, converted to black and white, with some minor adjustment to lighting levels to bring out some of the details.
Sent with about 9 minutes to go.
-Brooke Chuang
Took this while I was on a hitchhiking trip with my friends in South Korea (which is where I'm from). Not very film noirish, I know. But I thought the lighting from the gas station in the back and the thick fog we had, and my friends who fell asleep in the middle of nowhere, made an impressive scene.
It was around 3 o'clock in the morning when we were dropped off at this service station. And it was so foggy at the time, nobody was driving out of the station, so we waited and waited until the fog died down. By the time somebody finally picked us up, it was almost dawn. We were trapped in there for almost 3 hours.
Camera: Canon EOS 7D
Lens: Canon EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS
Exposure: 1/60, f/2.8
Focal Length: 17mm
-Hwy-Seung Ahn


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