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Wednesday, May 23, 2012
I'm curious about you!
Lately I've been thinking a lot about what being a woman means to me. A simple question but the answer has been a long and winding road and the journey continues. Our struggle with appearance and what role that plays in our daily life can be a crippling or liberating one. We are so much more than our looks, but the reality is how we feel about the way we look affects every part of our lives.
In my attempt to make sense of who I am as a woman I'd like to get to know you a bit more. I was hoping each of you could answer a few questions for me. You can do so publicly in the comments or privately in an email directly to me. I just ask that you be honest and open with your responses. The more people participating the better so please share it with all of the women in your life, young and old.
1)How old are you?
2)What does your appearance say about you?
3)Do you judge other people based on their appearance? If so, how?
4)Do you worry about your appearance? If so, how?
5)Is there a difference in being cute or being pretty?
6)What do you love about yourself?
7)What do you dislike about yourself?
8)What career can you see yourself in?
I'm not sure where I am going with all this but I have a feeling the results will guide me. Thanks so much for caring and sharing! If you want to email me directly too.
Now for some pictures:) Check out these babies!!!!
Please try and find the time to participate. Thanks and I love you!
22 comments:
- Ivy Black said...
I lurve those boots so much!
I'm on it! I'll email my answers when I'm done....you've given some food for thought there. xxxxx
- May 23, 2012 at 9:38 AM
- Vix said...
That ex mu-mu is fantstic, the print is truly insane! You know I love those boots too much, bring them over in September so's I can steal them! Check out your trim tum in that floral skirt and how gorgeous you look in all your rainbow brite wardrobe!
I'll email my answers to you later (cider intake permitting).
Fabulous to chat yesterday, hope the sun'[s shining for your today!
Love you! xxxxxxxx
- May 23, 2012 at 9:52 AM
I love the home catwalk, so funny!!
All you are wearing is awesome,OMG I love the print of the first dress and the skirts!! And the new boots are better than in my imagination!!
If I'll find the time I'm gonna answer your questions, it's an interesting project!!
Lots of love!!!
- May 23, 2012 at 11:16 AM
- LUCEWOMAN said...
1)34, I'll be 35 on the 4th of July!
2)it says I'm interesting
3)Totally, I spend my day looking at people and imagining how they live their life based on their hair, clothes and make-up.If they are head-to -toe in the latest fashions, have dyed re3d hair and neat make-up - I assume they are confident unimaignative, organised and fastidious (for example)
4)Constantly. I worry that I'm not projecting an accurate representation of myself, and also that I'm projecting a very accurate one. Extra weight - poor discipline, weak. Unkempt hair - lazy, lacking in pride. Scruffy nails - neglectful,tired, stressed.
5) Tough one. I think you can be pretty without being cute, but not vice-versa
6)Nothing, there's always room for imporovement.
7)Mostly everything. Belly, arms, blemishes on face, stretch marks, saggy boobs, flat bottom. Personality wise, my indecision, inability to say 'no'my lack of organisational skills...the list goes on and on.
8) Social care.
Love the chopped dress! Indeed - where HAVE those boots been, they sure have Krista written all over them!
Lucy x
- May 23, 2012 at 11:56 AM
- Louise said...
What an interesting project, how could I not answer.
1) 30
2) I would hope that it says I know my own mind, am not afraid to go against the grain of what is considered 'fashionable' and that I'm not just another face in the crowd.
3) I think it's difficult not to judge people on their appearance, we're happiest when we can pigeon-hole people aren't we? I admit, I'm quite bad at it, for example if I go to an interview and other peopl haventt made an effort, I'll assume they aren't serious about getting the job, and so on, I do it all the time.
4) I'm not afraid to go out without makeup, or looking a bit rough just because sometimes you have to, but I do invest a lot of time in my skincare and my skin is an important thing to me, even though I do have frequent breakouts. Elements of my appearance cause me concern, but they are elements that are down to nature like skin and weight rather than my fashion appearance.
5) Yes, you can most definitely be one independent of the other, I have met some very pretty people who were too vile in personality to ever be cute.
6) I love being tall and I love my very full lips.
7) I hate my ugly feet, I'm not that keen on the shape of my eyes because they always look sleepy and I hate that I get fat on my back. Personality wise, I'll do anything to avoid arguments with loved ones, which means sometimes I go along with things I wish I'd said no to. I'm indecisive too, I hate that.
8) In the medium term, I'd like to work in property. Long term, I'd love my own tea shop.
- May 23, 2012 at 1:08 PM
- Nat said...
Those boots were made for walking! And partying... and dancing... and strutting your stuff!
Right, here goes....
1)How old are you? 38
2)What does your appearance say about you? Probably something along the lines of "Eeeks! What were you thinking?!". Seriously, though, I tend to dress quite conservatively and practically, as I'm not very girly but I aspire to be elegant ;-)
3)Do you judge other people based on their appearance? If so, how? I do try not to as I have learned that appearances can be deceptive. I am more sensitive to people's demeanour and body language than the way they dress.
4)Do you worry about your appearance? If so, how? I worry that I am not appropriately dressed for big occasions. I worry less than I did in my 20s and I've learnt to live with myself.
5)Is there a difference in being cute or being pretty? Everyone has their own idea of pretty or cute... I think they can be the same thing :-)
6)What do you love about yourself? My capacity to laugh at myself. My ability to see things through and find a solution to problems.
7)What do you dislike about yourself? My tendency to panic about stuff beyond my control.
8)What career can you see yourself in? I'd love to be more creative... I am a medical writer so I deal with quite serious stuff, but I wish I could be a travel writer/photographer!
Looking forward to the results of your poll!
- May 23, 2012 at 1:40 PM
- Pull Your Socks Up! said...
Well dress me up in sunshine and rainbows baby, you are rockin' EVERYTHING you're wearing in all of the pics, special love for the first frock, pink boots and orange beanie!!!! But I just LOVE it all!!! You are so inspiring and thank you for doing this wonderful Q&A:)).
1)How old are you?
2)What does your appearance say about you?
Umm, mad-but-intruiging?
3)Do you judge other people based on their appearance? If so, how?
I'm getting so much better at not judging - in fact, I'm really attracted to tramps and down-and-outers whom I tend to engage in conversation on a daily basis. There's no crap to cut through with people who have lost everything and are living on the edge.
4)Do you worry about your appearance? If so, how?
I used to worry a lot more about my appearance about five years ago ... I was going to get a tummy tuck to make my spare "baby skin" and stretch marks just go away. Now I wonder WTF I was thinking. Show me a woman who doesn't have appearance issues and I will worship at her temple of awesomeness forever.
5)Is there a difference in being cute or being pretty?
Interesting ... I feel many woman associate a "cute" woman with being unconventional and doing her own thang with her appearance e.g. awesome tatts, colourful hair, funky or an odd assemblage of clothing, piercings. "Pretty" seems to be reserved for woman who toe the line i.e. BORING!
6)What do you love about yourself?
I'm patient and I give everyone a chance to express themselves, no matter what their age or way of life.
I like that I can be vocal or very clear about my distaste for intolerance. I am a full-time care giver to my husband and I get extremely protective when I get the faintest whiff of impatience or intolerance of his multiple illnesses.
7)What do you dislike about yourself?
I have a short attention span.
I get bored once I feel I've learned everything I can about something. I'm ashamed of that trait.
8)What career can you see yourself in?
Professionally, I'm a print journalist and I think it's perfect for me as I love to hear people's stories and give them the opportunity to tell them in print. When I do eventually return to paid work though, I feel I may want to concentrate on human interest stories.
Thank you for this quiz darling Krista!! xxxxxx
- May 23, 2012 at 4:41 PM
- Gracey at Fashion for Giants said...
Hi Krista! I'm happy to participate.
1)How old are you? 37
2)What does your appearance say about you? I hope it says that I enjoy dressing myself. And that I'm playful and creative.
3)Do you judge other people based on their appearance? I hate to admit this but, yes, sometimes I do.
If so, how? It mostly happens at work. We have a pretty casual dress code, and I don't expect or want people to wear suits, I just wished people took more care in what they wore. No hole-y sweats topped with flannels. Yes, I'm terrible.
4)Do you worry about your appearance? I do.
If so, how? I like getting dressed and like to get dressed for how I feel at a certain time.
5)Is there a difference in being cute or being pretty? I guess so. I think I'm considered cute instead of pretty but I'm fine with that.
6)What do you love about yourself? My height, my smile, my sense of humor.
7)What do you dislike about yourself? I don't connect well with other people and I wish I could do so more easily. I'm mostly just painfully shy (blogging is different).
8)What career can you see yourself in? I'd LOVE to be a writer. But, I enjoy my current job quite a lot too. Well, the work, not necessarily the job.
- May 23, 2012 at 7:15 PM
1. I'm 58.
2. That I'm trying to be unafraid of aging.
3. I try not to judge others on appearance...though I worry about the health of some folks I see.
4. I worry about my complexion and muscle tone.
5. Major difference between cute and pretty. Neither is a goal of mine.
6. I love that I was blessed with the talent for writing.
7. That I'm not a very social person. I wish I was more outgoing.
8. I've spent my working life as a college instructor of creative writing, literature, and required writing courses.
- May 23, 2012 at 7:34 PM
- Lakota [Faith Hope and Charity Shopping] said...
Hi Krista - surely those boots could only ever have been yours?!
I will answer your questions once I've got the kids off to school x
- May 24, 2012 at 12:00 AM
- Trees said...
boots are amazing, as is the pattern on the now mini maxi frock! I will answer your questions - but I do need to ponder them more...hummm
- May 24, 2012 at 12:07 AM
- Miss Simmonds Says said...
Those boots were waiting for you your whole life! All those outfits are cute - you're actually Kawaii rather than plain old cute
1)30 - 31 in August
2)I wonder if being overweight people think I don't take care of myself. I also think I must be a bit fearsome sometimes, I shoot daggers at people without realising. I also like to think I stand out
3)I do sadly, though sometimes when can see people's expressions and I realise I was wrong about them. People who have happy open faces, no matter how they dress I tend to judge as more approachable. I tend to judge people as being interesting or boring too, whether we would get on or not.
4)I worry about looking ridiculous, I feel being bigger there's a precarious line between edgey and looking silly. I feel like thinner people can get away with more.
5)My boyfriend was the first person to tell I was cute - as in adorable. I like being cute, it makes me feel more adored, though it's not very grown up. I suppose being pretty is more sophisticated.
6)My brain mostly!
7)My fat bits, mainly my stomach
8)something creative and I would most definitely love to work for myself!
- May 24, 2012 at 3:02 AM
- two squirrels said...
Oh Krista I have been reading all your wonderful posts for days now and have been a to afraid to comment.
I am going to answer these questions, after I get over being scared.
Yip I will do it!!!!
Love v
- May 24, 2012 at 3:14 AM
- Lakota [Faith Hope and Charity Shopping] said...
Hello again
1) I am 35
2) Depending on the day, either:
a)That I am confident enough to go out without being made up/overdone
b) That I would like to be more put together but lack the confidence
c) That I'm younger than I am
d) That I like to be comfortable but have some interest in what I'm wearing
3) Yeah, up to a point. I mean - not JUDGE as in 'God you must be a dreadful person' but everyone makes first impression judgements about people, adjusting where you think people 'fit' in the world. Although I don't actually care what other people wear - only what I wear. My best friend never wears jewellery, lots of black, doesn't like to stand out ever - that's fine. I quite often WONDER privately what the hell people were thinking, but wouldn't be rude enough to pass comment!
4) Yeah of course, sometimes. Other times I really don't care. I would like my pre-baby figure back, but whilst I'm not gorgeous, and have a flat nose etc I don't particularly want to change my face. I would LOVE to be photogenic though, the fact that I look so shit in photos compared to the mirror does upset me a but!
5)Yes, although I'd put cute/pretty together a bit more and have beautiful as a different category. Or striking - that's probably a good thing to be.
6) I'm funny, a good friend, good writer...looks wise I have good lips and hairdressers always admire my hair natural colour and texture (different matter when it's left to my devices!)
7) Flabby upper arms, cellulite, post baby boob droop! Am also overly critical and inclined to jealousy. At least I know this though!
8) Writer, private detective!
- May 24, 2012 at 5:44 AM
- Miss Magpie said...
You know it's funny I hate pink with a passion but I don't mind it on other people who look fabulous in it like you!
- May 24, 2012 at 6:12 AM
- Kari said...
Hey! Just found you off citizen rosebud. Your last couple posts really struck a chord. Lately I wonder the same thing. Basically what the f is wrong with women. Why can't we be more supportive of each other? It really bothers me now which I wonder if it's a age thing.....being finally bothered by it (41 BTW). I got no answers but I swear if you lived here. We would start a movement, I'm sick of it, it needs to end.
So your questions. I'll answer but I can't fix typos on my iPad in blogger comments so stick with me.
1) 41
2) I'm drawn to black, I love motor cycle jackets and I walk with my head held up high with a stride like a man. My appearance says bad ass.
3) I don't know. I mean I'm sure I do. If only because I'll think hmmmm they are not what I thought after all. But I can't say I go through life saying, OMG her blue jeans are so 2004.
4) short answer no. I wish I could take more chance with color like you do.
5)To me cute is word relegated to the young and you either grow into pretty or you don't. Pretty isn't just looks its a package.
6) big massive calves. I'd sit around and fondle them all day if I could. I have worked so hard for every muscle in this body. But it's the calves I want to flaunt.
7) I kinda miss my boobs. I had no idea how tied into my persona they were until they Shrunk to a 36b. But I don't miss them enough to do anything about....I dunno kind of a shrug over here.
8) the one I'm in. I've had so much variety in my life from creative to mundane. Each job is good iN some aspects and bad too. There is no perfect job. The people I work with are hard working, have my back and make me laugh. You can't ask for more than that.
- May 24, 2012 at 4:19 PM
- Misfits Vintage said...
Ooh those boots are frickin SPLENDID! The mini is fabularse! And I love the buttons on that super cute skirt too!
1)How old are you?
2)What does your appearance say about you?
It says 'Hello! I march to my own beat and I don't much care what you think of me! Please get out of my way now!'
3)Do you judge other people based on their appearance? If so, how?
Of course, I make an initial impression. Mostly I see people trying to 'fit in' and afraid to be themselves... I see them colourless and drab, predictable and uninspired... And I kinda feel sorry for them.
4)Do you worry about your appearance? If so, how?
I don't 'worry'... but of course I have things about my body that I'd like to change but I have great perspective and value my health enormously, so mostly I am pretty happy with my lot.
5)Is there a difference in being cute or being pretty?
Don't know, or care to spend even a minute thinking about it!
6)What do you love about yourself?
My intelligence, compassion, humour, resilience, acceptance, thirst for knowledge, capacity for love and courage!
7)What do you dislike about yourself?
My weaknesses.
8)What career can you see yourself in?
Photographer extraordinaire!
- May 24, 2012 at 5:38 PM
- Heather said...
Love your indoor photo shoot ~That mini mumu is so cute love the picture/pattern on it so cool...Love the boots are those the new ebay ones??
OK here goes with the answers 1)How old are you? 38 in sept.
2)What does your appearance say about you? It says I am a quiet girl with a rebel inside lol! Even though I am quiet I am a strong confident girl
3)Do you judge other people based on their appearance? If so, how? I am not perfect but I try very hard not to....I am often judged for being Christian and having Tattoos I have learned through experience how awful and selfish this act is ...If I have learned anything in life it is you can't judge a book by it's cover. When we judge others we are the ones that miss out on the gifts they have to share. So it becomes our loss.
4)Do you worry about your appearance? If so, how?
I worry most about being healthy I think how you feel reflects strongly on how you look. If you are taking care of yourself and you feel good it won't matter what you wear you will look fantastic.
5)Is there a difference in being cute or being pretty?
I just quoted Audrey Hepburn on my blog and I think she said it well that happy girls are the prettiest girls...if your happy and you feel good about yourself that makes you cute and pretty!
6)What do you love about yourself? A Pastor told me once that I am like an arrow that when I have a purpose I shoot straight for it until I reach it. I like how when I have a purpose I am not afraid to stretch myself towards what needs to be done.
7)What do you dislike about yourself?
That sometimes I can be quiet when I need to be loud. I hope that as I grow in wisdom, age and experience I will also strengthen that voice of mine as well.
8)What career can you see yourself in? I am a teacher although I have never been formally trained as one in a college or university I think that is just a formality. There is always an opportunity to share your light of knowledge with others...I have taught in many different avenues of my life and I think that it just comes naturally to me and I will continuer to do so.
Thanks Krista for posting these questions we have so much we can learn from each other xx Heather
- May 24, 2012 at 10:27 PM
- pastcaring said...
Firstly - mini mu-mu, miaow! You're looking hot, love! Love all the gorgeousness on your cat walk, but especially you!
Now - I'm late to answer your questions, cos they're HARD! Well, they are for me, you have made me think and shown me that I'm rather ambivalent about all this appearance stuff. But here goes...
1) 47, 48 next month.
2) I think my appearance says I enjoy clothes, I don't mind taking a risk and being conspicuous, that I want to be a bit different from the herd. That I make an effort!
3) This question is tricky. You know, I guess I do make judgments, though I shouldn't. Not in a "you shouldn't wear that" kind of way, or deciding whether I will like someone or not, or making judgments about their physical appearance, but I am disappointed that so many people wear such dull clothes, and I must admit I consider an awful lot of people to be poorly or boringly dressed. That's bad, right?
4) I always worried, a lot. Always felt a bit hideous really. Now, not so much. Ageing doesn't worry me much - I've never been a cute/pretty girl so I've nothing to lose by getting older! Dressing well or with flair (in my opinion, that is!) covers a multitude of sins, and takes attention away from my face! I like to think I can look striking, even if I can't look beautiful.
5)I don't know the difference between cute and pretty. Someone commented that they are words associated with being young, and I think I agree. Would anyone describe a woman in her 60s as pretty or cute?
6) I've found some confidence at last from somewhere - hurrah! Physically, I like my height, my overall shape, my hands, my hair (on a good day). I'm pleased with my ability to be a good pal and make people laugh, and that I laugh a lot myself. I like to think I'm articulate.
7) Lots of stuff. Impatient, prone to pessimism and melancholy, shouty (at the kids), I hold grudges, I take against people, and then refuse to let them redeem themselves. And I've got crap skin and hate my teeth!
8) I had a career, but gave it up. I can't believe that having children is all I'm capable of doing, but I'm not sure how employable I am now. I used to work in mental health care and liked that, and was good at it, so maybe one day, I'll get back to it. If I can't run a blisteringly successful vintage emporium, that is!
Thanks for asking the questions, Krista, I've been interested to read the other responses, and can't wait to hear what you make of us all! xxxxxxx
- May 27, 2012 at 9:01 AM
- Ashley Clarke said...
Hi. I'm not a woman but I just found your blog and I like it, so I will answer your questions even though I might not be what you were looking for.
1) I am twenty.
2) My appearance says a lot about me. I use it as a form of expression, and also a form of defense, and I'll be honest when I say that I get a kick out of someone hating what I wear.
3) Yes, I judge people on their appearance, initially. I know this might not be moral, but I do think you can tell a lot about people from their appearance. But of course, some people surprise you.
4)I worry about my appearance a lot. As I said above, it is both a defense and an expression.
5)There is definitely a difference between cute and pretty. Cute is an infantilised perception of attractiveness. Pretty is a broader term for attractiveness, but I still think that it has connotations with purity, and in that sense it can also be infantilising.
6)I love how open-minded I am; it disturbs me to see how ignorant and intolerant some people are. And I love my fashion sense.
7)I dislike certain parts of my face, and I dislike that I can be unreliable at times.
8)I see myself doing something creative and soul-fulfilling. I would rather be poor and happy, or at least I hope I would.
Thank you anyway. I followed you. :)
Ashley x
- May 27, 2012 at 5:52 PM
- Thick Threads said...
how cool do you look in these! no seriously how cool is it? because my brain has gone off the radar and burst into flames because of the raddness of your outfit and accessories! the colors! love them!
1)How old are you?
a whopping 23 :)
2)What does your appearance say about you?
I'm not sure, i try to just be honest to myself and project what i think is important to project about myself which is confidence (when i have it, its hard to keep it up sometime) self acceptance and individuality.
3)Do you judge other people based on their appearance? If so, how?
I really try not to, and I find myself sticking up for the people who are being judged by my friends or family, i really despise the judgment of other base on their appearance and i really try to keep it to a minimum, of course sometimes i catch myself thinking that this person looks like something or another but whenever I do i take a few more glances and see the positive sides or the reality sides of it, i hope that makes sense.
4)Do you worry about your appearance? If so, how?
I do, i worry that I can'T pull off the fashion as well as a "normal sized" person and that I will get laughed at or that people just wont understand that I'm working on my confidence...it's a difficult thing
5)Is there a difference in being cute or being pretty?
hmm good question... I have no idea how to answer it, i think cute is connected with someone looking sweet and innocent, while pretty is an ideal most people go for.
6)What do you love about yourself?
I like that I can stay open minded in almost any situation and still stand my ground and voice my opinion
7)What do you dislike about yourself?
i doubt myself way too often...
8)What career can you see yourself in?
i can see myself doing what I'm studying to be "transcultural Communication" its the deep understanding of communication between many cultures and languages, very interesting stuff and I love to work with languages and meeting people from different countries so keep your fingers crossed! :)
Hope these are helping you find whatever it is that you're looking for!
- May 29, 2012 at 6:16 AM
- Vintage Sweetheart said...
1)How old are you? 21
2)What does your appearance say about you? It says I'm a vintage loving girl who doesn't feel the need to wear make up.
3)Do you judge other people based on their appearance? If so, how? I try not to because I don't like people judging me, but if you're wearing pj's in a shopping centre you're going to be looked at funny.
4)Do you worry about your appearance? If so, how? Not really I worry if my outfit matches but that only matters to me. As I said I never wear make up.
5)Is there a difference in being cute or being pretty? Nah!
6)What do you love about yourself? My sense of style.
7)What do you dislike about yourself? My anxiety.
8)What career can you see yourself in? I see myself in a shop selling vintage but in reality I'm studying to be an Education Assitant.
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Monday, November 16, 2009
I thought it went really well, until he brought up Hitler.
Right up until the Hitler reference, everyone was playing relatively nicely.
This was a debate between two men, and the question was "Should Intelligent Design Be Taught in the Schools?" The two men were Dr. Jerry Bergman and Dr. P.Z. Myers.
I came in wondering if I could tell who the creationists were just by looking at them, and I looked at the relatively empty room (I was early), wondering which side I should sit on. I observed the tables at the front, and observed that one had a computer, water bottle, and papers on it while the other had nothing but a microphone. I chose to sit on the side of the room in front of the empty table because I knew from previous observation that Dr. Myers had not arrived yet. I was just thinking "Is this like a wedding, where there's a bride's side and a groom's side?" when the woman sitting near me asked "Is this like a wedding?"
I had brought my knitting, so I had something to do. I have to use all the baby-free minutes I have.
My initial thoughts were that this whole debate does not really seem like a debate to me because a debate is supposed to present two sides of an issue, and creationism/ID does not equal evolution. The question "Should ID be taught alongside evolution" answers itself:
No. Can we have beer now?
Dr. Bergman, on the "Yes" side of the debate, spent the first half of his twenty minutes talking about himself and all the atheists he knows. In fact, he was an atheist! Many of his friends were atheists! But he found the atheist movement to be deficient, scholarly. He defined evolution as "from the goo to you by way of the zoo." There's nothing like a catchy, rhyming phrase laden with panting sarcasm to make me warm to your argument. He said that "you cannot judge a religion by those who don't follow it," and that sentence still does not make sense to me. He talked about debunking Darwinism step by step, stating that doing scientific research was what led him to theism and creationism.
I was wondering what this had to do with teaching ID in schools.
He conducted a survey with three thousand Ph.D. scientists, which showed that they overwhelmingly rejected "orthodox Darwinism," flashing some questions up on the screen that were clearly intelligently designed to produce ambiguous answers that could be interpreted to support his hypothesis.
He told me that "everyone is a creationist," that it's "not a good idea to teach religion in a science class," and that "you don't teach astronomy in a math class."
At this point, I noticed that my chest was really tight.
"The problem is," he said, "we don't teach enough about evolution." Science equals religion, he went on. Apparently if you say it's a fact, and it's true, then it's a religion. I think there's supposed to be something about evidence in there, but he thinks that the only answer you ever get from scientists is "evolution did it," or "it evolved that way." He's very concerned that we "cannot teach the problems with evolution" and that "atheism is taught in the schools, legally, indoctrinating students in a world view." Yup. That's how I came to my atheism: in my 10th grade biology class with Mr. Rosendahl, when that red-faced round white man preached to a rapt, entranced audience about frogs from his entitled throne of High School Biology Teacher.
It's the same crap. Atheists are winning, indeed, we have already won, and the poor Christians are persecuted. Ah! To be part of the persecuted, overwhelming majority group, dictating policy and whining in the corner about how nobody likes you.
Then he went into irreducible complexity, and I heard groaning all around me. Did you know that Carbon 12 is irreducibly complex? Neither did I. Someone else can better go into the weirdness that ensued during this section, as I stopped taking notes.
Then it was Dr. Myers' turn. So far, I had not heard a cohesive position in support of teaching ID/creationism alongside evolution in schools. Dr. Myers answered the question: "No, emphatically no. It's not science, so there's nothing to teach."
Science, he went on, needs a mechanism or theory and evidence or data showing that the observed mechanism works. You need real world observations to plug into the theory. ID has neither a mechanism nor data. There is no theory, which has been admitted to by proponents of ID. So what are we supposed to teach? How do we focus our research without a theory? How do we get data to support these positive claims distinguished from evolution; something that shows specifically that a designer did it?
I found him to be clear, concise, soft spoken, organized, and polite.
Dr. Myers pointed out that complaining about evolution is not part of a positive idea of science. You need theory and data if you want to teach intelligent design. If these cannot be provided, it cannot be taught. "Teaching is not a playground for teachers to spout off whatever they want." They are ethically and legally bound by states and districts. "They are responsible to students to give them accurate information to make informed decisions. Teaching creationism is a violation of professional responsibility."
Dr. Bergman? Rebuttal?
I teach Darwin's finches, too.
There's no theory, yes.
There are thousands of published papers, though, by ID people who are "in the closet." One individual has over 600 papers in major journals.
The appendix serves several functions, there are no vestigial organs.
(But why should it be taught? I am still wondering.)
There are quite a few studies that creationist students are 1-2 grades ahead of public school students.
(Citation and study design, please.)
Irreducible complexity, Aristotle, we need a heart, brain stem, kidney...
(I am just transcribing my notes, now. I mean, this is done, right?)
The periodic table of the elements is irreducibly complex, and a teacher was fired for teaching it.
Everything is irreducibly complex.
Show me the radio that works on a single lepton.
(What do radios have to do with evolution? Aside from the fact that humans evolved to the point where we could make one.)
Evolution is in the way of our knowledge of the biological world.
He equated god and evolution, you know the old game. There was nothing really new here. There's the God of the Gaps, and scientists have Evolution of the Gaps. But he "strongly supports the scientific method."
Dr. Myers? Rebuttal?
If the papers are not about ID, then they are not ID papers.
Dr. Bergman's definition of vestigial organs is peculiar; it's not the same as the biological definition. "No use" is not the same as "reduced function."
"That's the strangest definition of irreducible complexity I have ever heard," he said. Irreducible complexity is about biochemical pathways, specifically, and applying it to a carbon molecule makes no sense. Irreducible complexity has been refuted, and does not disprove evolution. When it comes to carbon molecules, it's not "little angels knitting them together"
People do teach the periodic table.
Yes, teachers have lost their jobs for not doing their jobs.
There is no positive case for ID, it's just complaining about evolution.
Schools have the right to set their curricula.
Question from Dr. Bergman to Dr. Myers: Do you know of any out of the closet ID'ers who have gotten tenure?
Dr. Myers: No. The problem there is?
Question from Dr. Myers to Dr. Bergman: How can you say that the Carbon 12 atom is irreducibly complex?
Dr. Bergman: restated the same thing.
Dr. Myers: That's not a useful argument for ID.
Dr. Begman: Yes it is.
Dr. Myers: open-mouthed silence.
During the questions from the audience section, Dr. Bergman quoted from Dr. Dawkin's book "The Greatest Show on Earth," (I think he said page 451, but I am tired, and the baby is crying), and he used to quote to conclude that genes are not the boss, there is a boss above the genes. Dr. Myers replied "Richard Dawkins would be mad at me if I let it slide that you quoted his book, supporting intelligent design. Natural processes are quite capable of producing increasingly complex information."
Question: "You admitted that ID has no theory in your rebuttal. For me that was 'game over.' Do you want to take that back?"
It was soon after this that he brought up Hitler. Hitler had enormous support from the scientists, he said, holding up a book called "Hitler's Ethic: The Nazi Support of Evolutionary Progress." Oh, man. Really? Did you have to? See, right up until then, I was just feeling sorry for his rambling and inferior performance, and then... he brought up Hitler. No scientists, he said, openly opposed Hitler. Really? You want to say that again? You want some time to think about it, first?
It's the same old thing. Arguments from authority. Disparage science and scientists, but talk about all the support you have from science and scientists. Mislead with weird things like the irreducible complexity of a radio.
It was a good evening out, though. I figured out some things on the knitting pattern I am working on, and I got to thank Dr. Myers for his admirable job of sticking to the question.
My comment on the evaluation was: I think that the conversations and questions were remarkably civil, given the subject matter, but as an intellectual discussion, I do not feel that the "yes" side of the argument presented a rational case, based on evidence, for the teaching of ID/creationism in the public school science classroom.
And I'd just like to point out that, some of my best friends are Christian.
32 comments:
- Greg said...
Nice review.
My question is this: Is a stable isotope that degrades into an element of the same name NOT irreducibly complex, and thus not created by an "intelligent designer"?
Oh, another question: Are leptons always female, or are some of them male?
- November 17, 2009 at 11:04 AM
- Talen said...
There is simply no smart-arse comment I can concoct that adequately weaves together this narrative and pins it to the wall that is not served so much better by the simple image of a mother sitting in the front row, knitting. Just think, in five seconds you did more and more useful things than Bergman did all night.
- November 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM
- HEP Brian said...
I'm really trying to understand this Carbon argument. So if you change the microphysical structure, you change the emergent properties. Sure, fine, how is this irreducible complexity, and what the heck does it have to do with evolution and/or ID?
- November 17, 2009 at 11:53 AM
- Jeff Orchard said...
Thanks for the synopsis (and even while the baby cried... I admire your dedication and ability to separate sources of angst).
- November 17, 2009 at 12:01 PM
"Dr. Bergman, on the "Yes" side of the debate, spent the first half of his twenty minutes talking about himself and all the atheists he knows. In fact, he was an atheist! Many of his friends were atheists!"
I'll bet he even let's atheists use his bathroom!
- November 17, 2009 at 12:09 PM
- kittywhumpus said...
Jeff: Fortunately, my husband was tending to the baby. Even so, it was a clarion call to wrap it up, just like the time on the clock, ticking toward midnight.
Greg: I think Dr. Bergman would turn that around by asking you, "Have you ever seen a woman made of a single lepton?" Did I really hear him say that?
HEP Brian: This is why I stopped taking notes during his IC/carbon12/radios/watches/humans torrent. I think Dr. Bergman's answer would be EVERYTHING is irreducibly complex. As for the "How is this supportive of ID?" he might say "Because it is."
- November 17, 2009 at 12:11 PM
- kittywhumpus said...
JBlilie: Funnily enough, I had that same comment pop into my mind last night.
- November 17, 2009 at 12:12 PM
When he brought up the "medicine isn't concerned with theories" crap, my wife (a DVM) and I had to chuckle. Aside from the fact, as my wife immediately pointed out, he's a PhD and not an MD meaning he's not a practicing physician, it reminded us of a conversation we were having over dinner only an hour or so earlier. I had wondered why it seems easy for some medical professions to get sucked in by woo, and she brought up a good point. Novel diseases and disorders are often first encountered by doctors, not researchers. Recently my wife encountered a unique case for which there seemed to be no documentation in the literature. So, she contacted the unofficial expert in the specific area who helped her determine a treatment plan, and it worked. Now, neither she nor the expert she consulted have bothered to present the case to any journals so you can be certain that any further trials of the treatment will only be informal and thus wouldn't follow typical clinical protocols. Unfortunately, doctors too often have to rely on anecdotes from other professionals in lieu of tested, controlled procedures.
So in some sense he's right. The process of peer-review and well controlled, double-blind trials can take a back seat for a practicing physician presented with something like an idiopathic illness. But again, he's supposedly in research so he should be concerned with good science.
- November 17, 2009 at 12:49 PM
That 'Darwin-of-the-gaps' trope appeared in Dr. Behe's most recent book, & I assume that's where Dr. Bergman got it. Sometimes it is hard to tell if these guys are serious.
- November 17, 2009 at 2:20 PM
- kittywhumpus said...
"Darwin-of-the-Gaps" is clearly a lost Thomas Hardy novel, and they are just confused.
- November 17, 2009 at 2:26 PM
No scientists spoke out against Hitler?
You mean... like Einstein? He just looooved Hitler, until he fled Germany.
- November 17, 2009 at 2:35 PM
- Tim said...
Creationists don't debate in a pro forma manner. They copy what Fox News does. William Buckley is dead isn't he?
- November 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM
- Qwerty said...
At least you had something constructive to do. I was surrounded by "believers" as I found out when some of them asked questions. The young lady next to me was the one who asked "but it's only a theory and you call it a fact" question. While Dr. Bergman rambled on and on, she spent her time texting on her cell phone. Dr. Bergman even bores "the true believers."
Anyhow, I found your account to be quite accurate. You did leave out the part when someone mentioned that the Jewish scientists opposed Hitler and many immigrated to America.
But, in brief, you are correct. It was the same old "hash" delivered from the Creationist Cafe. "Irreducible complexity=design" and "Hitler=atheism/bad."
If I go to more of these debates, I'll have to take up knitting. Do you give lessons?
- November 17, 2009 at 3:06 PM
- llewelly said...
"Did you know that Carbon 12 is irreducibly complex?"
Carbon 12 was created by God. Carbon 13 and Carbon 14, however evolved through micro-evolution. (Or would that be nano-evolution?) Noah only needed two atoms of each element on his ark; he didn't need two of every isotope.
- November 17, 2009 at 3:08 PM
- kittywhumpus said...
Qwerty: That young lady appeared to me to be around 15, but I did not get a close look at her. Would you say that was accurate?
I think that a number of homeschoolers may have brought their charges, but I have no evidence for that.
I left out a number of things, such as the moderator's interjection regarding the scientists who fled the country. I was exhausted with my own notes, and still agape that the debate landed on Hitler.
llewelly: That Noah was an organized, busy little... um... guy, wasn't he? I can barely handle my household of three humans and two cats. I'd be lost with an ark.
- November 17, 2009 at 3:14 PM
- Wanderin' Weeta said...
Madame Defarge?
Poor Bergman. He must have been quaking in his boots, watching you.
- November 17, 2009 at 3:27 PM
- HEP Brian said...
llewelly: Hmm, for nuclear processes I'd say it's "femto-evolution" :D
- November 17, 2009 at 3:30 PM
- Qwerty said...
Kitty, I thought she was older. Somewhere around 17 to 19 years old. I thought she was possible a college freshmen. She had the question written down and sprang to her feet when the Q session began. I can't help but feel she thougbt, "I'll show this godless evilutionist."
She did spend most of the first twenty minutes texting someone. I was tempted to ask her what was so all fired important, but didn't.
I sat near the back on the Jerry Bergman side and when PZ said morals were culturally driven, most of the heads near me were shaking an emphatic "no."
My head was thinking "huh?" when Bergman spent most of his first twenty minutes detailing his background instead of addressing the debate's central issue.
A poster at PZ's blog had it right
(August Berkshire) when he said that many of the atheists in the room could have given PZ a better debate than Bergman.
Bergman's style of debate reminded me of that song "I Was Born a Ramblin' Man."
- November 17, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Perhaps the single lepton woman is a sign that Bergman is heading towards a juvenile and esoteric form of Zen. It does sound like a bad koan.
- November 17, 2009 at 6:33 PM
- DrivingAnalytical said...
I'd love to have been there, but my comment isn't directed at the debate: I couldn't escape an image of the guillotine during the French Revolution, with the women sitting at the front, doing their knitting... I won't paste a link, but search for 'le tricoteuse'...
- November 17, 2009 at 9:30 PM
- DrivingAnalytical said...
oops... make that 'la tricoteuse'... pardon my French...
- November 17, 2009 at 9:33 PM
- the Procrastinatrix said...
Are you the LSG Kittywhumpus I know? If I'd have known you were there I'd have given you a big squishy hug. I was there in the back with Greg Laden and some other lovely people wondering if Dr. Bergman had ever considered he might just be a dick and that's why none of the atheists wanted to talk to him. Kammy :)
- November 17, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Hey same high school bioligy teacher, must of been him that made me an athiest too (though I was before I met him but meh, science is a religion so it was a miracle of Darwin's design) Go Rangers!
- November 18, 2009 at 1:21 AM
On the Hitler comments, I guess he never read Hitler's Gift: The True Story of the Scientists Expelled by the Nazi Regime By Jean Medawar and David Pyke..... Research a little bit of research is all that it takes...
- November 18, 2009 at 9:03 AM
- kittywhumpus said...
the Procrastinatrix: I am, indeed, the same AAC/LSG kittywhumpus. I had not brought up my attendance on any boards because I was not sure if I would be able to get away from babywhumpus.
darkstar: You mean there are TWO Mr. Rosendahl's? We were Winhawks.
marjotse: He could only wave around so many books; his, Prof. Dawkins, and one Hitler book was already pushing it.
- November 18, 2009 at 9:43 AM
- Qwerty said...
I still keep thinking about how inept Dr. Jerry Bergman was during this debate. The topic was his and it was "Should Intelligent Design Be Taught in the Schools?"
Did Bergman at any point give any reasons for teaching ID in schools?
I can't remember any. All I remember is a lot of talk about his background, his books, complexity, ID, and more complexity, but never any reasons for teaching ID in the schools.
PZ addressed the topic with his reasons why teachers cannot teach it (curriculum) and used ID proponents to explain why it isn't even a viable theory or good science, but Bergman gave no positive reasons for teaching it.
An empty chair could have beat Bergman in this debate by default!
It boggles the mind that creationists think this mindless crap known as ID should be taught to anyone.
- November 18, 2009 at 12:23 PM
- Jeff Orchard said...
I wonder, is there a blog somewhere in which the patrons are equally convinced of the exact opposite of our consensus here? There must be such a parallel universe. I'd love to read what they're saying on the other side. Anyone know of such a blog?
- November 18, 2009 at 12:33 PM
- kittywhumpus said...
Qwerty: Along those lines (ineptness), I had a comment elsewhere about how it would have been too infuriating to listen to, which had originally been my concern, but the ineptness just made it both laughable and sad.
Jeff: I wish you had not asked that because now I feel compelled to see if I can find one. I am sure that there is.
- November 18, 2009 at 3:25 PM
- Nullarbor said...
Yes, Creationism ought to be taught, together with Winnie the Pooh, though it's much less brainy.
- November 21, 2009 at 3:48 PM
- Eric said...
Brief comment on one item you wrote:
"He said that 'you cannot judge a religion by those who don't follow it,' and that sentence still does not make sense to me."
I didn't find this hard to interpret or lacking sense. Maybe some parenthetical remarks will clarify.
You cannot (should not) judge a religion (e.g., Christianity, Islam) by those (professing adherents) who do not follow it (e.g., Ku Klux Klan, terrorists, child molester priests).
I suspect Bergman's point was that some people have rejected theistic religion because of the behavior of religious hypocrites who did not obey its moral codes or ethical standards.
- December 2, 2009 at 10:15 AM
I love the "open mouth silence" part of your review...I laughed out loud when I read that.
Regarding the young lady with the comment/question that "Evolution is a theory, and creationism is another theory, so why shouldn't they be taught side by side?" I thought PZ missed a great opportunity to explain and define the difference between a "scientific theory" and a plain old lay-persons theory. I have talked to a lot of creationist who slept through high school biology, or something, and just don't know the difference.
The definition for a scientific theory pasted from Wikipedia: "In the sciences, a scientific theory (also called an empirical theory) comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a class of phenomena."
The definition of a plain old theory (from the dictionary) is "a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact."
If you are like that young lady, and don't know any better (and wasn't taught science at home school), it makes sense that when it comes to theories, her guess involving supernatural bible hokus pokus is just as valid as the scientists supposed stab in the dark involving evolution.
In conversations with creationists, it usually helps to point out that the "theory of evolution" is just as "theoretical" as the "theory of gravity"
I wish PZ would have pointed out that difference in the definition of theory. Other than that he hit it out of the park.
- January 23, 2010 at 7:31 PM
I wonder, is there a blog somewhere in which the patrons are equally convinced of the exact opposite of our consensus here? There must be such a parallel universe.
Not a parallel universe, just a gathering of ignorant and stupid people.
- January 28, 2010 at 3:47 PM


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text: WAYLAND, Mich. -- John Nardini isn't a financial consultant, but he regularly posts financial advice on his blog. The blog, a self-published Web log, has quite a following, but Nardini isn't selling financial products. He is executive vice president of marketing at Wayland-based Denali Flavors Inc., the company that sells the Moose Tracks ice cream. The financial blog is a tool to drive traffic to the company's Web site. "We're a small company," he said. "We don't have millions of dollars to place on a 30-second Super Bowl spot. We have to be innovative to get the word out." More and more companies in west Michigan are finding that blogs are a cheap and effective way to stay connected to customers, drive traffic to other Web sites and in some cases, increase sales. So why did Nardini start a financial blog to sell ice cream flavors? Few people are interested in Web sites and blogs about ice cream. But many seek out financial tips online. By creating the financial blog, which is a compilation of financial information from other sources, Nardini is funneling visitors successfully to the Denali Flavors site. Moose Tracks, the company's most popular flavor it sells to ice cream makers, is the "sponsor" of the page. A link at the top of www.freemoneyfinance.com takes visitors to Denali Flavors' home page. Since the blog went online last April, Denali Flavors has seen a 30 percent spike in visitors to its company Web site. "That's the great thing about blogs," Nardini said. "If we get only a fraction of the traffic of the blog to our company's Web site, it's a big hit. "It has been a real success for us. It's done a good job and it didn't cost a lot of money." Nardini isn't a tech genius. He crafted a successful blog with some trial and error and a small amount of time. Local blogger Laura Bergells has run a business out of her home office since 1999. Her firm specializes in creating PowerPoint presentations for companies. She started a blog offering free PowerPoint backgrounds and templates -- a much-sought-after online search. Her blog, www.maniactive.com is getting 84,000 visitors a month. "It's not just getting people to come to your site, it's getting people to come back to your site and sticking around. You need to use a business blog to develop relationships and become an expert in your field." Bergells now uses her experience to help other businesses blog. "It is important for your blog to be unique," she said. "Discover what your strengths are and your weaknesses are. People in your business have unique voices. Let them use them." Because many blogs contain opinion, corporate bloggers should speak to their lawyers about content. Nardini said Denali's lawyers suggested a disclaimer at the bottom of the page. "The advice that we give is really pretty general. It's not like we're recommending people go out and buy certain stocks," he said. "We talk about the need to invest and the need to have a strategy."


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Powers & Abilities Mayuri's Battle Data, clockwise. Top: Offense (70), Top Right: Defense (70), Bottom Right: Agility (40), Bottom: Kidō (100), Bottom Left: Intelligence (100), Top Left: Physical Stamina (50). Total: 430/600.[50] Master Scientist/Inventor: As the head of the Shinigami Research Institute, Mayuri is a talented inventor and scientist, having created a number of devices or techniques to aid him in battle or otherwise. As Mayuri is the mad scientist archetype embodied, he has no morals or empathy in everyday life and apparently his work is devoid of it as well. He is willing to go to any lengths he feels are necessary to achieve his goals, and apparently cares very little for morals or the value of human life. He often takes no interest in the issues of Soul Society and prefers to engage in his research when such issues arise, unless personally ordered to do otherwise by General Yamamoto. Master Strategist: Mayuri has a talent for being well prepared. He takes various precautions before engaging in personal combat with an adversary, usually studying them through his various methods in order to gain a clear advantage. He seems to always have a contingency plan if something doesn't work out the way he expects. Body Modification Expert: It is implied that Mayuri has done extensive research on modifying bodies, and he has upgraded a variety of his own body parts to function as weapons or otherwise provide him with useful abilities. Extension Arm: His left arm can extend out like a grappling hook. When the arm is attacked it explodes on impact, but with his regenerative serum, this is not a problem (though it does cause him serious pain.)[51] Hidden Kusarigama: He is able to pull part of his ear out to form a scythe attached to a rope-like ligament for use as a kusarigama. It is easily as sharp as a standard Zanpakutō, and he is quite skilled in it's use. Environment Melding Technique: Another one of Mayuri's abilities likely achieved scientifically is his ability to meld with the color and texture of the environment. It was shown when he was attempting to track the Ryoka in Soul Society.[52] When he reveals himself the topical camouflage flakes away. Organ Replacement Surgery: Most impressively, he has demonstrated the ability to replace functional internal organs with false ones, a feat he performs on himself and his lieutenant to safeguard them from injury. This particular operation is conceived of and carried out in the span of less than an hour.[53] Master Chemist: Being the current head of the Research an Development Institute, Mayuri has otherwise been shown to be an adept chemist; the results of which are listed here: The Superhuman Drug. Superhuman Drug: Mayuri has manufactured a "superhuman drug" that can slow down a person's perception of time. The drug is kept in a bottle by him, but also inside Nemu's body, which is blue in appearance. It is able to make one second seem like 100 years for the unfortunate victim to whom it is administered. An undiluted dose of the drug causes the senses to speed up trillions of times while the relatively "slow" body fails to keep up, resulting in paralysis; on the other hand, it is implied that a diluted dose of the drug can greatly enhance the user's reaction speed. He even stated that a single droplet would have to be diluted 250,000 times to be suitable for use.[54] The Regenerative Serum, used on Uryū Ishida. Hojiku-Zai (Regenerative Serum): Mayuri has also developed a "regenerative serum," which can regrow limbs upon injection, and looks like some sort of green chemical. Of course, it can be used to restore less major injuries as well, as seen with Uryū and Renji.[55] Tracking Expert: He expresses the fact that he merely needs a strand of a person's hair to find them. By using a simple chemical process he can discern the location of the person in question using their DNA is a reference.[56] Expert Swordsmanship Specialist: While not masterful in swordsmanship as some other Captains, Mayuri is skilled enough to hold his own in a fight. His expertise with his Zanpakutō lies in his effective use of its abilities while its in either its Shikai or Bankai release states, rather than his swordsmanship skill. As he relies on those abilities or his pre-planned strategies rather than actually engaging in melee combat with his opponent. Mayuri seems to be ambidextrous, as he wields his Zanpakutō in his right hand and his scythe-ear in his left (often simultaneously). In the anime's Bount arc, he briefly wields his Zanpakutō left-handed as well. Kidō Master: As the Captain of the Twelfth Division, Mayuri is known for his mastery of Kidō, during the bount arc Shunsui commented that Mayuri was the most proficient Kidō user in the Soul Society.[57] Flash Steps Expert: Mayuri was shown easily outrunning Uryū's Flying Screen Step technique after the latter stated it to be faster than flash steps. He could not, however, keep up with the Quincy when he entered the Final Form, making him at least an expert in the technique. Great Spiritual Power: As the Captain of the 12th Division, Mayuri boasts a great amount of spiritual energy. Noted to having amazing spiritual pressure, that comes in waves.[58] Enhanced Durability: Mayuri has shown himself to have a high tolerance to pain as shown when battling Uryū Ishida, having almost half his body blown off but continued fighting.[59] Zanpakutō Ashisogi Jizō redirects here. For the manifested spirit that appears in the Zanpakutō Unknown Tales arc see Ashisogi Jizō (spirit). Ashisogi Jizō (疋殺地蔵, Leg-Cutting Jizō): Ksitigarbha is a bodhisattva that watches over children and the underworld. In Japan, where he is known as Jizō, he looks rather like a baby dressed as a Buddhist monk. Mayuri's Zanpakutō's guard is wrapped in a cloth, and has several spiky protrusions sticking out right below the blade, which appear to resemble leaves. The hilt is pink. Unlike most Shinigami, his Zanpakutō's sheath hangs directly in front of him, instead of to his side as they are commonly worn, through a visibly modified hook on the end of the hilt of Ashisogi Jizō. Mayuri's Liquid Form. Liquid Form: When Mayuri's stabs himself with his Zanpakutō while in its sealed state, it has the ability to transform Mayuri into a liquid form. Doing so doesn't kill him, as it is a last resort technique, but instead simply leaves him unable to attack or be attacked, making it an effective escape tool. He commonly can move around in this form and speak as well. He reforms after a few days but without any of his previous body modifications. It's uncertain whether this ability is entirely the product of Ashisogi Jizō, since he specifically relates the ability to himself, not opponents. His various physical modifications may have something to do with the effect or it could be an effect of Zanpakutō modification.[60] Mayuri's Shikai, Ashisogi Jizō. Shikai: Ashisogi Jizō's Shikai command is "Rip" (掻き毟れ, kakimushire; "Claw out" in the English dub). Ashisogi Jizō's blade glows and transforms into a deformed trident with curved, serpentine blades, the middle blade is straighter and longer then the side blades and appear to ascend from the guard which is shaped like a baby's head with hands clasped in prayer (as Ksitigarbha is depicted), all mounted on his sword's normal hilt which has more ornate spiky protrusions on either side, which resemble golden leaves right below the guard. The baby's mouth secretes a poisonous vapor in this form at various intervals.[61] Shikai Special Ability: The weapon works like the venom of a spider bite; when an opponent is stabbed by Ashisogi Jizō, it severs the brain signals controlling the neural impulses for movement in the limb's of the victim, regardless of where they were struck. But unlike regular paralysis, the pain receptors and nerve endings are unaffected by the weapon, so the victim can still feel pain, even in a paralyzed limb.[62] During the Bount arc, it is shown that healing the stab wound does not immediately remove the inflicted paralysis.[63] Mayuri's Bankai, Konjiki Ashisogi Jizō. Bankai: Konjiki Ashisogi Jizō (金色疋殺地蔵, Golden Leg-Cutting Jizō): The Baby's head on the guard opens its mouth as it produces a giant creature with the body of a caterpillar in a red cape with a grotesque golden baby's head and arms with a silver halo hovering around its head. It emits its own individual, red reiatsu upon release.[64] When in this form his Zanpakutō returns to its sealed state. In this state the creature seems to follows Mayuri's verbal commands. Bankai Special Ability: The creature breathes a poisonous derivative of Mayuri's blood which is lethal to anyone who breathes it, aside from Mayuri and Nemu. The poison spreads through such a wide area, and it is almost impossible to avoid it. Konjiki Ashisogi Jizō's poison is very potent, as Szayel Aporro's body started to break down immediately after it was introduced.[65] The poison has an antidote, which Nemu keeps behind her lieutenant's badge, and which Mayuri keeps on his person.[66] Mayuri can change the composition of the poison as well, ensuring that no foolproof antidote can ever be manufactured to cure it, and no immunity is developed against it.[67] Konjiki Ashisogi Jizō's retractable blades. Retractable Blades: Konjiki Ashisogi Jizō can produce numerous blades which can also extend from its chest, allowing it to run through and skewer opponents. This, used simultaneously with its poison makes Konjiki Ashisogi Jizō particularly lethal to anyone that cannot keep a safe distance, which is also difficult due to its immense size. Instead of the blades, it can also apparently devour an opponent after it charges into them, killing them.[68][69] Mayuri using his self-destruct protocol Self-Destruct Protocol: Mayuri has also physically modified Konjiki Ashisogi Jizō itself so that it will self-destruct and return to its sealed state if it were to attack him, implying that it is sentient as well as organic, reminiscent of Captain Retsu Unohana's Minazuki.[70]
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Kurotsuchi Mayuri
March 30[1]
174 cm (5'7")[1]
54 kg (119 lbs.)[1]
Nemu Kurotsuchi
Previous partner(s)
Kisuke Urahara, Hiyori Sarugaki
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Captain of the 12th Division, 2nd President of the Shinigami Research Institute
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Vice-President of the Shinigami Research Institute, 3rd Seat of the 12th Division
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* Shikai: Ashisogi Jizō
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Volume 10, Chapter 81
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Episode 24
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Ryūsei Nakao
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Terrence Stone
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Powers & Abilities Master Swordsmanship Specialist: He appears to be highly skilled in swordsmanship, being able to fight on-par with Ichigo and even slice through his Getsuga Tenshō. Ulquiorra prefers to wield his sword with his right hand, leaving the other hand free though it usually remains in his pocket. He is quite adept at blocking while his offense is capable of great precision. He was able to fend off Ichigo using his Hollow mask-enhanced Bankai long enough to reach the top of Las Noches, though his Zanpakutō was nearly broken. Master Hand-to-Hand Combatant: Ulquiorra has shown to rely mostly on hand-to-hand combat, rarely drawing his sword at all. Ichigo speculates that he only draws his sword against opponents he considers "worthy". Ulquiorra also seems to prefer applying an 'off-the-ground' method of combat, often being seen attacking opponents from aerial standpoints, such as when he attempted to use his Cero on an offending Grimmjow by attacking him from the air above his head, or when he jumped upwards with a Sonído in an attempt to catch Ichigo off guard during their most recent confrontation. Sonído Master: One of Ulquiorra's more noticeable traits is his tremendously skillful speed. He has demonstrated the ability to catch up with Ichigo after kicking him from a tower in a few moments.[4] He has also shown the ability to skillfully keep up with Ichigo's Bankai speed. In addition, his superior experience allows him to push Ichigo's reflexes to the limit. Keen Intellect: In addition to his remarkable combat prowess, Ulquiorra is also gifted with great insight and understanding to situations at hand. His intelligence is such that even Aizen, a man arguably best-known for his intellect, has respect for as he sent Ulquiorra to investigate Ichigo's power and threat level. With his calm and collected nature, Ulquiorra has can be highly perceptive and analytical, allowing him to easily deduce the basic idea of his opponent's skills to figure out its strengths and weakness. Ulquiorra's green Cero. Cero: Ulquiorra has been shown using Cero from his fingers with very destructive power. His Cero can be charged and fired relatively fast and is a green color instead of red, which is the most common color of a Cero. He is shown able to fire it from either hand. Bala: This technique hardens the user's spiritual pressure and fires it like a bullet from their fist. Ulquiorra has a red Bala, as seen in the kidnapping of Orihime. Enhanced Hierro (鋼皮(イエロ), iero; Spanish for "Iron", Japanese for "Steel Skin"): refers to the hardened skin of the Arrancar, which is a result of their compressed spiritual power. While not openly stated, it has been seen repeatedly that Ulquiorra's skin is highly durable even by Arrancar standards. He can deflect attacks of similar power barehanded. He is able to fight Ichigo in his Hollow form without unsheathing his sword, rendering Ichigo defenseless with two attacks and not sustaining injuries of any kind. The best example of his Hierro's might was shown from his ability to take a direct slash from Ichigo's Tensa Zangetsu with only a minor cut on his chest, while his fellow Espada Yammy lost an arm from the said opponent. Also, in his released form, Ulquiorra's Hierro appears to be even stronger, as Ichigo's strongest attacks seem to have no effect on him. Enhanced Pesquisa: The Arrancar ability to sense spiritual energy. While any Arrancar can learn it, Ulquiorra has shown impressive skill with it. From a single glance at his opponent, Ulquiorra can immediately determine how powerful his opponent is. He is also able to comprehend the flow and concentration of the person's energy as shown from his ability to instantly notice Ichigo's energy was fluctuating due to his inner Hollow. Enhanced Strength: Ulquiorra has proven to be deceptively mighty for his build. He has shown the ability to physically discipline Yammy, an Espada known primarily for his strength, with no visible effort or upturn huge portions of rock floor with a single strike at the ground. He has also shown the ability to kick Ichigo a tremendous distance with one strong kick.[5] Garganta (黒腔(ガルガンタ), garuganta; Spanish for "Throat", Japanese for "Black Cavity"): Garganta is how Arrancar move to and from Hueco Mundo. Ulquiorra has the ability to use the technique. It literally tears open the dimensional fabric separating the worlds, revealing a tunnel of whirling, torrential energy that must be focused and solidified to Ulquiorra using Garganta create a discernible pathway. In the video games, Ulquiorra uses this technique to generate make-shift vortexes to draw opponents in, as well as teleport from place to place. Ulquiorra using Garganta Garganta Broadcast: Ulquiorra has been shown able to create a visual broadcast , similar to a television screen, using individual Garganta portals. He does this in order to show the current predicament of Orihime's friends (Ichigo, Hitsugaya and Matsumoto) fighting their respective battles, stating he could kill them if she says anything other than "yes".[6] It is unknown if he could create as many as desired, or if three broadcasts are his limit. Enhanced Vision: According to Ulquiorra, his eyes have the power to see through any illusion or deception; to basically see and understand anything in his sight. He even goes as far as saying he can only not see what doesn't exist. Instant Replay: Ulquiorra has the unusual ability to replay events he has seen to others by removing and crushing an eye, which then turns into dust and flows around those Ulquiorra intends to use it on. The dust shows images of what Ulquiorra has seen during his missions. In manga after using this technique Ulquiorra keeps the empty eye cavity open, but In anime due to censorship Ulquiorra keeps his eye closed. High-Speed Regeneration: Despite having great attack power and speed, Ulquiorra's greatest strength is his regenerative power. It is first witnessed after he removed and crushed one of his eyes, then he is seen with two eyes again in his next appearance, and Yammy comments on it to that effect. This is displayed once more in his battle against Ichigo's evolved Hollow form where he regenerates the arm that was torn off. Ulquiorra states that it is his greatest power, one which most Arrancar give up in return for greater strength. He explains that he can quickly regenerate any part of his body except for his brain and Internal organs. However, this power also requires that he had sufficient spiritual energy. Immense Spiritual Power: His spiritual power is immensely high, comparing his own spiritual power to the likes of Ichigo. As he one of the top four Espada, he is forbidden to release his Zanpakutō within Las Noches. That is because they are too powerful and such a release would cause great damage to the fortress. During his first meeting with Ichigo, he compared his levels to that of Ichigo, a Shinigami with exceedingly high spiritual energy, and he comments that the Shinigami's energy at its peak is higher than his own but fluctuates. Zanpakutō Murciélago (黒翼大魔 (ムルシエラゴ), Murushierago; Spanish for "Bat", Japanese for "Black-Winged Great Demon"). Ulquiorra's Zanpakutō takes the form of a standard sized katana with a green handle and sheath. The guard has two curved extensions from its long sides, with a line going through both sides to give it an eye-like appearance. Ulquiorra's first released form. Resurrección: - Its release command is "Bind" (鎖せ, tozase).[7] Murciélago unleashes with a burst of spiritual energy that falls around Ulquiorra as black rain. In his released state, Ulquiorra becomes bat-like in appearance. He gains giant wings on his back, his hair becomes longer and wilder on the left side of his head, and the remains of his Hollow mask centers atop his head, with two large horns extending outward to the sides towards the front. The lines on his face become broader and more triangular and his fingernails lengthen. His Arrancar attire becomes more form fitting and closed at the top, becoming more like a robe towards the bottom. In this form, he uses an energy spear instead of a sword. Resurrección Special Ability: He is shown to have the ability to create elongated spike-like javelins. His speed and endurance is greatly enhanced to the point that Ichigo's hollow mask-enhanced Bankai has difficulty keeping up, let alone damaging him. His Hierro has also vastly increased in strength to the point where a Getsuga Tenshō with Ichigo's mask activated has no effect at all. Ulquiorra also has the unique ability to enter a second released form, called Resurrección Segunda Etapa. Cero Oscuras Cero Oscuras (黒虚閃, (セロ・オスキュラス), sero osukyurasu; Spanish for "Dark Zero", Japanese for "Black Hollow Flash"): It is a black Cero, which Ulquiorra states to be similar to Ichigo's black Getsuga Tenshō. This Cero presumably can only be used while he is in his release state. Ulquiorra's Cero Oscuras is powerful enough to blast Ichigo's mask away and destroy a large part of the city-sized Las Noches' dome. Ulquiorra refers to it as "my Cero",[8] so it may be exclusive to him. Ulquiorra's second release Resurrección: Segunda Etapa (刀剣解放第二階層 (レスレクシオン・セグンダ・エターパ), resurekushion segunda etāpa; Spanish for "Resurrection Second Stage", Japanese for "Sword's Release: Second Level") Upon his transformation, Ulquiorra boasts that he is the only Arrancar among the Espada who has achieved a second Resurrección form, which supposedly has remained a secret from Aizen. Ulquiorra refers to his second state as "True Despair", both before and after its release, likely because the immensely dense spiritual pressure it releases instills despair upon those around him. While he retains his black wings, his long white coat is gone, revealing a more defined musculature with his chest bare and Hollow hole (which has become larger) dripping black, blood-like liquid. His waist becomes covered in something similar to black fur, which also covers his arms and legs. His fingers grow claw-like extensions and his feet become like talons. His irises of his eyes turn yellow while the sclera becomes green. The tear-like marks under his eyes increase and turn black. Ulquiorra's mask remains turn into two long horns, and the #4 Espada tattoo is no longer visible on his chest. He grows a very long and thin but powerful tail which is capable of being used as a weapon or to lift and strangle a victim. Overwhelming Spiritual Power: Ulquiorra's already vast spiritual power is significantly increased furthermore upon entering his second stage. Even being within the vicinity of his release instills despair on those who can sense it. Uryū Ishida, a Quincy who is an expert at sensing reiatsu, noted that the density of Ulquiorra's spiritual power was so vast that it could hardly be identified as reiatsu. "It's like no spiritual energy I've ever felt before...It's not just bigger or stronger. It's too dense and heavy to even be called spiritual energy. It feels like there's an ocean above the sky..."[9] It is likely the second release increases Ulquiorra's speed and strength. Ulquiorra charges up to use his Lanza del Relámpago. Lanza del Relámpago (雷霆の槍 (ランサ・デル・レランパーゴ), ransa deru reranpāgo; Spanish for "Lance of the Lightning", Japanese for "Lance of Thunder and Lightning"): Ulquiorra creates a javelin-like weapon using his spiritual power, which he can use as a projectile or as a physical weapon. When thrown, it produces an incredibly-destructive explosion on impact, which dwarfs the fortress of Las Noches in height. Ulquiorra prefers to not use the attack at close range, most likely because the resulting blast would damage himself as well as Las Noches. While he can use these spears in rapid succession, he has difficulty controlling their trajectory. Ulquiorra is also able to use this attack as a blade, which disintegrates material upon impact; as seen when he struck away his own amputated arm, that Hollow Ichigo had just thrown at him. The spear can also be quite effective at cutting, as seen when he used it to sever one of Hollow Ichigo's horns to prevent him from using a Cero on Uryū.
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Saturday, July 16, 2011
Colette Macaron
Ok, so I finally decided to just go for it. I do love the shape and was always so enamored of the versions other curvy shaped girls had done. It was so flattering on them.
I bought this fabric on the red tag table at Joann's, yes, another Joann's find. I'd seen this fabric a ton of times before and never bought. Finally, I was there and it was a 50% off day, so I just decided to get it. It is a pretty mid to heavy weight cotton sateen and comes in panels. I bought three panels for $10.50 total. I hoped three would give me some options. I knew a sheath dress or something similar would be cool for the design. I had this fabric out and kept pulling out patterns and nothing worked for me. On a whim, I pulled out the Macaron and ouila...I have a dress I absolutely LOVE!
I made no changes except maybe shortening the shoulders a smidge. I probably should have shortened the back bodice a half an inch looking at the pictures. Oh, and I should have done a slight forward shoulder adjustment. If I stand up straight, it's fine though ;-)! Next time I'll do both. This is an amazingly easy pattern.
I'm so happy with it!
15 comments:
- Carolyn (cmarie12) said...
What a great mix of pattern and fabric! This is beautiful on you!
- July 16, 2011 at 8:24 PM
- Heather said...
I really just need to bookmark your blog, Kim, because everything you make is already on my mind and is completely fabulous! My Macaron pattern is sitting on the table, waiting for my life to settle down.
I love the print you used, now I'm going to have to re-think what I had originally planned (rayon blend that looks like denim).
And I'm going to put in an official request here - can you share the info on your fabulous shoes?! I'm always envious and curious about the shoes.
Keep sewing, I'm living vicariously!
- July 16, 2011 at 8:56 PM
- HeathersSphere said...
Elegant dress! Nice placement of the flowers and I like the fit that you achieved.
- July 16, 2011 at 9:47 PM
- lakaribane said...
Love the dress, ADORE the shoes!
You have really been inspiring me lately, so many cute dresses!
- July 16, 2011 at 9:58 PM
- MAD14kt said...
Well Done!!!
- July 17, 2011 at 12:31 AM
- Melizza said...
Man, oh man. I was debating buying this pattern and at the last minute i took it out of my basket and purchased others instead. Big mistake. Totally should have gotten it. It looks amazing. The choice in fabric is spot on. So, so pretty.
- July 17, 2011 at 6:57 AM
- Melody said...
Have to leave another comment on the total awesomeness of this dress. THis looks really high end. That fabric is just killing me - LOVE it!!
- July 17, 2011 at 7:51 AM
- Lori said...
A fantastic dress, it looks amazing on you. Great find on the fabric, too.
- July 17, 2011 at 10:22 AM
- Marie-Noëlle said...
This dress is fantastic and it suits you perfectly!!!!! I love the patterned fabric.
- July 17, 2011 at 10:49 AM
- Linda said...
Great looking dress. Love the fabric.
- July 17, 2011 at 3:52 PM
- Karin said...
Gorgeous dress! I love the spray of flowers on the skirt.
- July 17, 2011 at 5:41 PM
- Dharma said...
The dress is beautiful! So interesting with the floral splash.
- July 17, 2011 at 10:17 PM
- Audrey said...
You picked the perfect pattern for the fabric. It is really lovely!
- July 18, 2011 at 1:17 PM
- velosewer said...
Nice job. I like how you've placed the print. I hope this is a fun dress to wear. You'll get lots of compliments.
- July 18, 2011 at 4:55 PM
- Victoria said...
Love this dress! The pretty print on the black fabric background is just gorgeous! You looks so pretty in this!
- July 19, 2011 at 11:08 AM