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The development and history of the United States is deeply rooted in the Northern European belief in the "work ethic."
The Puritans, Masons and Pilgrims who first set foot in New England believed that hard work wouldn't hurt anyone.
This belief holds true at La Salle High in Pasadena, where the work ethic is credited for the school's back-to-back CIF-Southern Section 1-A soccer championships and a string of Santa Fe League titles.
Coach George Taylor, beginning his fifth year at the helm, has produced a modest dynasty at La Salle, located below the foothills in East Pasadena. Taylor teams have won four league championships while going undefeated in Santa Fe play each season, in addition to the two CIF crowns. Last year the team was 22-3-5.
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This season the Lancers are 10-0, outscoring the opposition 56-2. La Salle, which starts 10 seniors, is an overwhelming favorite to win its fifth straight league championship and another CIF title.


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Rough GPS position Latitude. 37.0078°, Longitude. -97.0344° , Elevation. 360m
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BRUNSWICK, Maine — It's been nearly a decade, but George G. Bean still remembers the night a skunk sprayed his two Great Danes, an assault that helped put the sweet smell of success into his backyard business.
Bean tried "everything in the book"--from tomato juice to vinegar--but had little success in neutralizing the skunk odor that wafted from the huge dogs, clinging to everything they rubbed against.
"They wanted to roll on the Oriental rugs," he recalled in horror.
Combining his chemist's training with a desire to mobilize for future skunk attacks, Bean set to work in an attempt to develop a formula that would eradicate the problem.
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After three years of experimentation, he came up with a basic formula that would not irritate skin. His final step put the active ingredients in solution in water, yielding a product that remains chemically stable for indefinite periods.


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General Discussions / Re: Do you keep your games or trade after finishing them?« on: February 01, 2012, 04:38:01 PM »
I've traded in two games in my life. Resident Evil DS and Lunar Dragon Song, both because I was offended that I owned them. I do tend to get around this argument by never finishing a game though.


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Kara graduated this past Sunday May 17 from high school. She found out on the Friday morning before that she was Valedictorian of her class.😃 She was ecstatic to say the least and so were we. Kara had worked extremely hard these past years to reach this goal. In addition to her regular course load, she took dual credit classes and has already completed 15 hours of college credit. On Friday night, we went to Clarksville, TN so that we could spend the day Saturday getting registered for fall classes at Austin Peay University. We checked out the mall side of town, the river walk area and downtown. We spent the night on base at Ft. Campbell. It is nice the base is there so we have a good place to stay when we visit at very reasonable rates. We had a great time at registration on Saturday and Kara is still pleased with her decision to attend Austin Peay. She wants to pursue an Elementary Education degree with a K-6 certification. I guess it runs in her blood! Graduation was a success although it rained the entire time and that put a damper on making outside pics. We had a little get together at the house afterwards with family and friends.
Kali completed 6th grade and has a busy summer ahead of her with a Disney trip we have planned for next week, church camp and then a trip to visit her BFF Faith later in the summer.
The title of Kara's speech that she gave at graduation was titled "What do you say?" What do you say to the people you have spent the last 13 years with? Today I sent my Kindergarteners off for the summer and into first grade in the fall. What do I say to them and their parents after the last year? I don't have the words. They have been such a blessing to me and I have enjoyed watching them grow and learn. It is pure joy to hear them read to me!!!!! When they realize they can read, it is such a priceless moment! They will always hold such a special place in my heart and their families too.
Thank you Lord for the blessing of children! Prayers that you and yours have a blessed summer!


text: You know I'm sure people are sick and tired of hearing how things were better in the old days. If you're under twenty you've got to be especially sick of old farts like me, over forty, who keep telling you about "when we were young rap music meant something". Well if any of the above applies to you, you might as well stop reading now. Nothing that I've heard to date has yet to match the power and the poetry of Afrika Bambaataa. I first started hearing about him and hearing him occasionally in the 1980s when he was leading the charge in bringing rap/hip hop music out of the ghetto into mainstream acceptance. He of course had been around a long time prior to that, starting out in the 1970s while still in high school. It was a time when DJ's would compete to see who could create the best mix of music to entice audiences to dance. An early fore runner of what we now know as sampling, DJ's would inter cut varieties of music from their turn tables to create dance music. They would take their "coffins" (boxes with turntables set into them) to parties, parks and community events and face off against each other. Bambaataa (which means benevolent leader) evolved from this format into utilizing musicians and b-boys (break dancers) to create his sound. Influenced by the funk sounds of performers like James Brown he kept that hard edge to his music while integrating samples of other music. He had a far more political focus than the "home boys" of today and his lyrics and actions were reflective of that attitude. He worked on the anti apartheid album Sun City with Steven Van Zandt, Lou Reed, and others in what was Rock's first overt political act in years. But it was his willingness to cross musical boundaries that really set him apart from other musicians of the time, and still does today. Before RunDmc and Areosmith recorded their version of "Walk This Way" he had been working with Rock musicians. In 1984 he developed two groups, Shango and Time Zone. One of the key members of Time Zone was one time Sex Pistol and PIL luminary, John Lydon (Johnny Rotten to his friends) He's recorded with acts as diverse as Boy George, UB40, James Brown, and Nona Hendryx. He's done albums dedicated to exploring the sounds of the German minimalist electronic band Kraftwerk, and worked with George Clinton of funk fame. Building from his funk core he crafted unique sounds and pushed hip-hop into the electronic era. Listening to one album of his music is to listen to one moment in time in his career. Something else has come before, and you know he will be onto something new before you've finished listening to the disc in your player. The disc Zulu Groove is a reissue of a 1999 disc that combined extended play albums that he put out with Shango and Time Zone in1984. It contains the entire Shango album Funk Theology as well as mixes from Time Zone's World Destruction and Wild Style extended plays. Musically this is a funk collection. All hard lines and driving bass and guitar that you just can't sit and listen to with wanting to get up and dance. Except that you also want to listen to the lyrics. Unlike the majority of today's dance/rap/hip-hop with it's predominantly superficial concerns Bambaataa was well aware of the real world. Time Zone's "World Destruction" that opens the disc is a searing commentary on the neglect of Black issues under the Regan government. With a continual refrain of "he don't like us" repeated over the driving funk beat, the anger and frustration felt by African Americans during his tenure as President is made clear. Like fellow rapper Gil Scott-Herron, Bambaataa was not afraid to stand up and speak out against perceived injustices. In both "World Destruction" and "World Destruction (Melt Down Mix)" John Lydon's vocals jar one out of the seductive rhythms of the funk beat and force you to listen to what's being said. That familiar angry sneer cuts through like a knife through butter and proves that contrasts in art are just as effective as seamless blends. Sandwiched between the opening and closing "World Destruction" bookends are some of the best funk music I've heard in a long time. Afrika Bambaataa proves that he can create fantastic straight-ahead funk with the best of them. For all his innovations and crossing over into other genres, it's obvious where his true home is from the music that he created with Shango and Time Zone. From the Latin tinged "Soca Fever" to the driving funk of "Zulu Groove" this disc reminds you what great funk can be. For so many years we've been fed funk's watered down palatable versions on main stream radio, that when you actually hear how it's supposed to be played it's like listening to a whole different genre of music. Zulu Groove is a good introduction to Afrika for those who haven't heard him before. It gives you a taste of his willingness to ignore the so-called boundaries between the genres of pop music, and some of the juiciest funk licks this side of a Parliament/Funkadelic concert. If you think you know what rap and hip-hop music are supposed to sound like and you've never heard anything by Afrika Bambaataa than you've been living a delusion. Do yourself a favour, buy this album, or anything by him for that matter, and listen to a master at work.


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Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis is commanding general of Camp Pendleton's I Marine Expeditionary Force and commander of U.S. Marine Corps Forces Central Command, which includes the Marines fighting in Iraq.
He spoke to North County Times reporter Mark Walker and Opinion Editor Denis Devine in his Camp Pendleton office on Tuesday.
To listen to the two-hour interview, by click here
The following is an unedited transcript of that conversation:
Opening statement by Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis:
I think it's very clear that this enemy has decided that the war, the real war for them, will be fought in the narrative, in the media. This is not a place where we're going to take the enemy's capital and run up our flag and drink their coffee and that sort of thing. So my point is that if we don't have people like you committed, trying to figure out the complexities of this war and not put it in just military terms but put it in terms their audience can understand it. I mean, this is a democracy, it doesn't say Marines, it says U.S. Marines. And if we don't have some connection here, when it's a war that's not clear, or you don't overrun the enemy's tanks and take this piece of ground. When the key terrain is the popular support of the Iraqi people. I mean, you talk about two alien cultures, not just 12 time zones difference, but I feel having come back 48 hours ago, but it's also some very different cultural views, you can't just mirror image. That being the complex case you confront, it's not easy for you to put this war into understandable terms. You've got to do it, I'm not going to do it, I've got a war to fight.
So I appreciate you coming up here. But let's go ahead with the questions and get into your level of interest now.
Mark Walker: Obviously, we've heard a lot of reports of sheiksworking closely with the Marines now in Anbar, turning their fighttoward Al-Qaida, begrudgingly, admittedly by some of the sheiksthemselves according to some of the things I've heard and what I'veread. To what degree is that now occurring in Anbar and how is thatchanging the dynamics in Anbar today?
Mattis: You have some people becoming aware of this and when people become aware of something, they think it all started with their awareness.
Several years ago out in one of the worst areas, out along the Syrian border, one of the worst because it was a long ways from Baghdad and had very few U.S. troops, we had an infantry battalion that basically broke through, hit a tipping point. It was under a lieutenant colonel named Dale Alford and as a result that had just been terrible, al qaim, Husaybah, that's where Capt. Rich Gannon, a local Marine, was killed along with two of his staff NCOs and two of his NCOs, in the first hour of fighting with his rifle company.
This is an area; my point is it was very, very contentious and very lethal. But out there, they broke through and the people realized who they had signed up with, the al-Qaida, and as a result they, what they did was they began, perhaps grudgingly, to come over to our side, is the bottom line.
Over, if you use the disease metaphor and you look at the Euphrates River and the towns of course are strung out along like beads along that river, you see it move further to the east and than it hits a rather intractable area, and the disease, that metaphor, this kind of leaps over, moves further down.
Here, due to some enemy actions -- I'll get into that in just a moment -- the enemy digs himself into a rut.
Two points here: In Ramadi, where its now attracted a lot of attention because it's the provincial capital, you see a very charismatic young sheik with a lot of vigor who was able to pull together people who say this is enough. What are some of the mistakes the enemy has made? Well, how about cutting off heads of 12- and 13-year-old boys and throwing them on the steps of the Ramadi hospital? How about killing a sheik and leaving his body for four days in the August heat out there without turning it over to the family? This sort of thing.
These are mistakes, and war, at times, is decided at times by whoever makes the fewest mistakes. And when you stick, as difficult as it is in this morally bruising environment, with the ethical high ground and we do that overwhelmingly. We are the good guys, not the perfect guys, but we are the good guys.
The enemy's efforts to use terror have created opportunities for us. These opportunities accelerated starting in January '06 and August '07 is when the sheik was killed and the boys were murdered a little while after.
But the constant bombs going off, and while the U.S. media, the Western media may portray this as "a bomb went off today." A bomb didn't go off, it was not an act of God. Intentional murder of innocent people eventually sours anybody.
So as the enemy does this more and more often, you can now see that they're gambling. Their gamble is that they can create a picture of chaos, within the country but more especially unwittingly promoted by the media, from tactical events, explosions set off in certain towns of strategic significance.
They need to break the American will. They need to make the war look like it's either at best going sideways, at worst getting worse, before the people all turn on them.
Unfortunately, they lost in al Anbar. The people turned before the Americans were forced out.
Now what you have is a reverse inkblot strategy, where you are see many times, if you know what I mean, in counterinsurgency, you see the inkblot strategy, you take over here and you move out here. What you're seeing is Al-Qaida being squeezed. They used to own Fallujah and they don't have it anymore. They used to own Ramadi; we've walked congressmen down the streets of Ramadi. How's that for a change over a few months? We have in many cases got a significant bounce off the people who realize, not that they love us, but that we're, we're the good guys.
So I wanted to give you the context, so you know it just didn't just start.
Some people will say we are arming the tribes. That's absolute just ignorance, is what that is.
No. 1, most of the people coming over to us were parts of tribes that fought us just a few years ago. They have plenty of arms. We're not handing out arms. We are training them. We are bringing them and paying them as part of the police. That way we bring them inside some kind of an organizational construct, so we don't have militias out there. But what we're doing in effect is taking advantage of their irregular forces and saying the al-Qaida aren't the only ones who are going to have irregular forces, we are too. And again, a country that armed Stalin to defeat Hitler can certainly work alongside enemies of al-Qaida to defeat al-Qaida.
Walker: Isn't this in fact this been seen as one of the keys to success in Anbar?
Mattis: It is certainly, it has been a horrible situation for the enemy as they confront that they are no longer, to use Mao's term, no longer swimming in the sea of the population.
They've got, for example, a young company commander In southern Ramadi, giving out cans of spray paint to the locals who go out and paint on the street where the IEDs are buried at now. This is the kiss of death for the enemy, and it is also why the enemy has shifted to so many attacks to the Iraqi police, for example, they're a threat and they've got to go after them.
So it is a key to success, absolutely. This is a war that does not template well. I'm not saying you can take this to every town in Iraq and make it work.
I just caution people that this is not yet irreversible either. You've got to maintain your balance and your enthusiasm. But at the same time, we are winning, and the enemy is losing.
Denis Devine: I'm interested in your analogy of arming Stalin to defeat Hitler, because are we then looking at arming an enemy that we will fight, either directly or by proxy, for the next several decades?
Mattis: Very, very good point. Where do the tribes fit in, is what you're asking, two years from now.
As the al-Qaida are beaten down, and as they lose their place in the sun out there, they are now being exposed, attacked by Iraqi troops, Iraqi police, the people. Most of our intelligence comes from the people calling tip lines and telling us things, pointing out IEDs, this sort of thing. There is going to come a point where the numbers, if you take the quantity of people in that force, in this auxiliary police is what we're calling them. These tribesmen, these Sunni boys that are joining up with the Iraqi police, there is going to come a time where we we're going to want to say we don't need all these folks.
Now how do you make certain you don't just disband another army? That didn't work too good the first time around, as I understand it. So what do you do? I think what you do is you take a couple pages out of what the U.S. military did after the Cold War, when we started downsizing. We said there are certain training programs for the troops getting out, we sent some off to learn how to be teachers, others got VoTech, others got just tuition assistance to help them go to school.
But basically you keep them on active duty, but instead of going out on patrol they day, because you no longer need them, they go to VoTech school. You find what, They're going to get full pay and allowances and you'll go to carpentry school, you'll go to plumbing school, you'll go to air-conditioning repair school, I'll go to automotive repair. You hold them on active duty, you pay them, and you somewhat look like approaching this like President Roosevelt approached the Civilian Conservation Corps. We're using military discipline, you take these folks and you give them an offramp and by the way, yes, you guarantee them a job. There is some role for government as you downsize and come out of this war at some point. So the tribes do fit in. You don't have another army that's running around out there.
And I think with the hydrocarbon law providing money to the 16 of 18 provinces over there that don't have oil, provincial elections that allow people to elect, and those will come, I think, to allow people to elect the people they want above them, there's still a lot of gnashing of teeth out there.
As you see political and economic progress, you will again confront al-Qaida and their spiritually, politically, economically bankrupt approach.
If we were to look at Vietnam along these lines, you would see that the Communists there had the Viet Cong, their armed element, and the National Liberation Front, their political element. There is no political element of al-Qaida. They can kill. They can destroy. The reason is no one is going to sign up for their medieval Talabanic view of tyranny. And they know it, and that is why they have got to go with the bombs.
My point would be that their treatment of women, which shows a total lack of human rights, their view of education as being nothing other than religious education, these are not themes that ring well with the Iraqi people. They, not that we were, I'm not trying to mirror image them, saying we're all the same in this world, Kumbaya, but the Iraqi people are a sophisticated people, are an educated people, by and large, not all of them. But it's a very different enemy than the rather coherent Communist insurgency, for example, that we confronted some years ago.
Walker: Just a quick call from me, just so I understand, the degree of tribal participation, or working with U.S. forces, is it in fact a large upswing in tribal cooperation in this early part of '07?
Mattis: It really began in January where we saw the Sunni boys signing up. That was based on a political accommodation, for example, a sheik out there, requested to meet with Gen. Zillner, our two-star, in August. This shows that when the only thing you have is a weapon, what do you do about that? Well, they rocketed the meeting. That's not a real smart thing to do when 104 sheiks are sitting in a house. They missed, fortunately for us, unfortunately for them. But when that is your response, you accelerate now. In August you see this acceleration of them getting together. By November-December, it's now starting to turn into a reality. January the casualties and attacks drop off. We are now finding over 70 percent of the IEDs, that's not just because we are sharp-eyed and good, but also because we have locals pointing them out. And then by now, you see, I don't want to be too specific here because I don't want to give the enemy good feedback, but around, you've gone from two-thirds to approaching three quarters of the IEDs being down, and you're seeing a 50-60 percent, 70 percent reduction in our Marine Army casualties out in al Anbar.
Again, it is not irreversible, we cannot get complacent, and think this is just going to go on and isn't life lovely. I haven't drank anybody's Kool-Aid, as I told you last time you were in here. But at the same time our progress is now undeniable. It's statistical.
You're always going to have people who say there's no right answer, you've done the wrong thing by arming the tribes. But again, we didn't arm them. We simply gave them an opportunity to carry out their views of al-Qaida and put those views into action, which happens to be in this case, you have to meet someone who wants to fight you on fighting terms.
Devine: There's analysis that the success in Anbar has pushed Al-Qaida into Diyala. Critics are saying that this is a "whack-a-mole" situation, squeeze the balloon and the air goes elsewhere. Can a threat like Al-Qaida be attacked, defeated town by town, province by province, or does it have to be more of a coordinated strategic response?
Mattis: I don't think it is a either/or. It has to be a coordinated but it has to be town by town. For example, I told you that in some cases, what we had going didn't take in another town but 75 miles further down the river, it took.
So this war defies templates. It is a difficult war to try and say this is the way we're going to do it.
But your point is, if we move against them here, do they just show up somewhere else? They do. That said, they are finding themselves more and more often put into positions where they can't get any kind of nurturing, they can't get any kind of R&R, they can't get a place where they can catch their breath.
Now that means that there is going to be some sharp fighting, that is absolutely the case, but the fact is they couldn't move back into al Anbar because it was denied to them. That's a victory. The fact they've moved into Diyala, then we'll hunt them down there. It's the sort of thing we have to hunt them down wherever they go.
But that is true about this larger war that we're fighting. Iraq is a regional problem that is going to take a regional solution. And that just takes your construct and just widens it a little more. It's not just the provinces, but what are we going to do around Iraq, what are we going to do to get the region to help be part of the solution. So it is all part of a lot of moving parts. In a kaleidoscopic way in the sense that, you move one part here and everything shifts somewhat. That is the nature of the kind of war we're at, because this is insurgency, it's not conventional war.
Walker: When we spoke in December, you said that one of the most recent conversations you'd had with Gen. Zillner, he had asked for more Iraqi security forces. Where are we today from where we were six months ago in terms of standing up more Iraqi battalions in al Anbar?
Mattis: I'm not sure if its six or eight Iraqi battalions that we have stood up of the what we call the Provisional Security Force, as far as the emergency… What did you call them when you were over there?
Lt. Col. Bryan Salas: They were the ERU, Emergency Response Units. Yes sir.
Mattis: They're now called Provisional Security Force battalions, PSFs. But the bottom line is these are auxiliary battalions to the police. But what's nice is that in many cases we have little doubt that this includes guys that were fighting us not so long ago. So guess what they know? They know where the enemy's caches are, where the enemy's rally points are, they know the tactics, and that's not a good thing to have them cover over on our side.
So we have now got not only the continued very lucrative recruiting drive with the Sunnis boys continue signing up with the Iraqi police and the Iraqi Army, with a guaranteed duty station in al Anbar, they do not want to be assigned somewhere else, that's the new reality. But we also have these other units. So I think one of the reasons why are seeing much enemy focus on them is these units are seen as a threat and everything Gen. Zillner was hoping for are coming true.
Walker: Some of the criticisms that have emanated out of Baghdad would be the Iraqi battalions would be on duty for a week or two and then gone for 30 days. Is that experience common?
Mattis: It's pretty much the opposite. They're on duty for a month and then they're gone for anywhere from a week to 10 days. This has to do with the lack of a banking system. That sort of thing. They gotta get home.
Walker: Is that the situation in al-Anbar also?
Mattis: Absolutely it's in Anbar also. But if someone going home, initially these were all Shia boys, so they had to go a long ways. More and more of these guys, when they go home they're going 20 minutes drive down the road, one hour drive down the road, that's a big difference for how long to lose them.
Furthermore, they're more apt to come back. It's a matter of proximity, it's ease, there are fewer friction points for them to come back, they don't have to go to Baghdad and change buses. You know, this sort of thing, with a bus system that sometimes works, sometimes doesn't, that sort of stuff.
At the same time, you've got to go through training these guys and you've got to put a lot of advisers out there. You've got to get fuel for them and feed them. We're standing up an army in the middle of a war, and that is not easy for these guys.
Still, I think the casualty figures last month, when you were in here in December, I think we had for the first time in November 51 percent, 52 percent of the casualties in the U.S. Navy medical facility were Iraqi.
Walker: Correct.
Mattis: I think this last month it was 29 percent. But of course the number of casualties has gone way down. So there's a shifting assessment here of just what that means. Plus many of their casualties don't go to our facilities, they go to Iraqi hospitals and something like that, so we're not collecting all the data.
Devine: Politically, in the U.S., everyone is looking towards September, and Gen. Petraeus' report. Does that affect the Marines' work in Iraq in any way?
Mattis: You know, that's an interesting question because when I wander around out there, and I always try to get questions from talking to the, the political maneuverings in Washington are of less concern to them, they'll ask questions about the Sunni and Shia and whether they're going to get along, this sort of thing. They're aware of what is going on Washington, but it does not drive our operations in the sense that there is some timeline that causes us to do things more for the timeline's purpose rather than where we are at event-wise on the ground.
In other words, if an area is not ready for certain civil affairs projects, we don't try to start them there because we have got to get them started before September. The security situation dominates. We allow the reality on the ground to dominate what we're doing, not an arbitrary timeline.
When you look at how we're progressing there, you can see the value of this. In certain towns, we are making great leaps right now, that if you tried to do a timeline approach, we might even be behind, because we wouldn't take advantage of opportunities because a timeline would be what we, what would be our disciplining process. So it is dependent on the local conditions in each area. In one area, we have no civil affairs going on right now because it is not safe enough, I'll give you an example, Karma, and yet very close by, you have significant civil affairs going on, you have projects, construction, day labor things going on, removing rubble which gets money into people's pocket and gets them feeling like things are getting back to normal. And that sorts of thing.
Devine: What would be that nearby town, where you were saying Karma is where?
Mattis: Fallujah. And how's that for an odd town to throw out as where things are going better.
Does that mean that in the good areas you can't have somebody drive a car bomb in? In a country with millions of people and cars going everywhere, the enemy is going to get a car bomb out there once in a while. There are going to be good days and bad days. Bottom line.
But in September, I believe that Gen. Petraeus is going to be able to point toward the situation that we confront and give a very coherent program for the way ahead. I am absolutely confident of that.
Walker: Do you think Anbar will stand out, so to speak, in terms of how things are going under the surge and the degree of cooperation you're seeing with the local population compared to Baghdad?
Mattis: Well, if you compare things to Baghdad, that's where the enemy has had some real opportunities, because that's where a lot of the press hangs out, that sort of thing, that's where the enemy can get a lot of bang for their buck.
Walker: Literally.
Mattis: Yeah, literally. But when you realize that there are a lot provinces that have no bombs going off. Al Anbar is probably a stand out in terms of the reversal, I think that's what you were saying, Mark.
Walker: Yes, sir.
Mattis: Reverse so much. But if you go up to Kirkuk, yes, they have the occasional bombings up there, but Kirkuk does not have, they don't have to deal with bombings, they have to deal with getting the kids to soccer practice on time. There are no bombs up there.
So there are a number of areas where if you look at what you see on the news right now, which is always where the bombs are going off, you don't get the overall picture of what is going in Iraq. That's just the nature of the news.
Devine: Do you have a sense of the percentage of foreign nationals that make up the al-Qaida fighters you are opposing in Anbar?
Mattis: I can give a sense, not a census. I think it is very, very small. There are some, no doubt. There's a number of folks who have tried to come there. There are some who have come and left, saying they can't get the support of the people. There's not, the living's kind of crappy for them, they have to hide out, and especially when there's locals turning them in, they don't sense any of the rapport, that even a local kid might know who he could turn in the local area to that might still be against us, whereas with the tribes coming over to our side, it is just a hostile environment for these folks. So it's not an area where we are getting a lot of these guys. But there is, I'd say a constant trickle of them coming in, and there are a lot of them who are dead.
Walker: General, given the political backdrop of what's occurring, going into a presidential election year, the dissatisfaction generally speaking amongst the American public according to the polls, what do you see the U.S. being able to accomplish in the next six to 12 months that may change the political dynamic, or more specifically, what can they accomplish in the six to 12 months?
Mattis: Well, insurgencies and counter-insurgency campaigns take time. But also reconciliations take time. South Africa, Northern Ireland. You know there are examples where this goes on.
But I was looking at my notes as I came back from a trip, I got back less than two days ago -- and I noticed that I have fewer notes that cause me to believe that sectarian lines are hardening.
From Sunni and Shia crowds cheering on their soccer teams to students going to school where there is both Sunni and Shia. I am just wondering if this reconciliation is going to be as difficult as I imagined.
We took Saddam and his police state off the top of these tensions and they all came bubbling up. And we were unwilling to use the same level of violence as Saddam was to quell them -- that's not how we're going to do business -- then obviously, especially if you have an al Qaida-like enemy there and you have an unhelpful Iran on another border that's egging them on certain people and perhaps giving them logistics or training support, then you are going to have some messy times.
But this problem existed long before, this problem being violent extremists, existed long before 2003. And it is going to exist long after this presidential election. We are going to have to confront it and come up with a national policy. If you go back to the Cold War, we came up with containment was going to be our policy, as the internal contradictions of their system of tyranny worked to basically doom the Communist system, Soviet system.
In this case we are seeing tyranny -- it's just in a false religious garb. We have fought this before -- it's just tyranny from people who say we are going to tell you how to think, how to pray and that girls will be treated like beasts, women will be treated like beasts. This is just another form of tyranny.
So what we have to do is come up with an approach, a framework that takes into account things that we find very uncomfortable. We sit here having a rational discussion. What if there are people that have no intentions of having a rational discussion, that as much as we want to think that religion is unimportant, there are in some people in this world, for political purposes I mean, for whom religion is -
Walker: Everything.
Mattis: Everything. Exactly. So we are going to have to confront this in the long term.
And I have no politics. I am a Marine officer. I have no politics. I will give my strongest, best advice in private and then under our Constitution I will do the best I can to deliver a positive outcome.
And sincere, patriotic Americans can agree and disagree with where we are going, but we have get to a point where we come up with a national understanding of this situation and build a consensus for how we are going to address it.
And with the continued disarming of Western European democracies, under their approach, we are going to see perhaps a heavier burden on America as we confront this in our leadership role. And so we are going to have to have young people who can go out and represent our country to other nations that can join up with us, and then over the next five to 10 years we create something that looks like a coalition of more tolerant people, how we're going to stop this tyranny and stop it in its tracks.
As we saw in al Anbar, violence only works so long. It's not going to go on forever. People get fed up with this, and they will ban together to push back.
Devine: Lately, the model of South Korea as a long-term occupation has been floated, including in a Sunday interview by Gen. Petraeus. And I want to know what you think about a long-term peacekeeping presence in Iraq. Is that something that the Marines are prepared to do? Is that something that you see your work in Anbar as building towards?
Mattis: These are not over with in two months or six months or one year.
As the enemy's effectiveness goes down, as the Iraqi security forces' effectiveness improves, you will see U.S. forces, especially conventional or expeditionary forces, line units, drop off. We'll probably see an increase in advisers. But overall, you'll see U.S. forces coming down. But we will maintain perhaps a different emphasis with the adviser duty. We may see U.S. logistics units there longer.
But your question about are the Marines prepared for this? If this enemy intends to fight, and if they intend that our experiment with democracy is going to end. To quote Zarqawi, 'Democracy is an evil principle.' It's good to listen to people and what they say. Don't patronize them and think they don't mean it; they mean exactly what they say. While we may debate whether or not they are soldiers, the people we have in Guantanamo, the ones who fight us are quite eager when we take them prisoner, to say they are soldiers, they believe they are soldiers.
As we confront this, the Marines will be happy to fight them forever. We're quite happy to fight to defend this country, and if it's a matter of who has the stronger spirit, I have no doubt the Marine Corps will prevail. Why do I say that? I can point to the statistics of I think the highest retention I think in our history, the last couple of years and it looks like this is going to be another great year for us. There is a degree of trust and confidence across our ranks that what we're doing is not only the right thing in Iraq but we're making progress and that in itself is building, it builds the desire of people stay to on. Yeah, there's no doubt in my mind the Marines can continue this. It's hard on the families. Hard on our families. But the families I will tell you, many, many of the families when I speak to them come up and say we support our husbands, we support our boyfriends who are off doing this. So far, if the center of gravity for the Marine Corps is the spirits of our Marines and their families, they're holding.
Walker: To bring that home a little further, I need to ask a question, whether you can comment on it is another thing, but do you see the 1st MEF (I Marine Expeditionary Force) heading back out? Under the normal rotation, the 2nd MEF would be leaving by the end of the year. The question is, who's going to replace them and is the 13th MEU (13th Marine Expeditionary Unit) heading to shore?
Mattis: I believe that the, we will continue to rotate forces in and out. Certainly stay fresh. This is for us, this is a long war. It's not a sprint. So we will continue to rotate forces. I MEF will be key to that, as you know we have been in this fight since the early days after 9/11, after we first went into Afghanistan, and we will stay in the fight. We will continue to be rotating forces in and out of there on a frequent basis, with as much predictability for our Marines and sailors and their families as we can give them so they know what's coming up, so that they can prepare themselves, mostly emotionally, for the stresses they are under.
As far as the 13th MEU, this is off the record.
Devine: I can turn this thing off.
Mattis: Just for a moment, that would be good. The 13th MEU (unintelligible)
Walker: We're not publishing till Sunday, if that makes a difference.
Mattis: Can you get the chief in here?
Salas: I'll check as soon as I go downstairs but I've got a press release-
Mattis: Can you get the chief in here?
Salas: -that talks about this. They're in the area and they've already talked about this.
Walker: In fact, Gen. Petraeus made reference to a new MEU arriving in his discussion with Tim Russert on Sunday.
Devine: Fox News.
Mattis: OK. All right. Then yes, that unit has been committed to the fight in Iraq.
Walker: Where? Can't say?
Mattis: The families know? 13th MEU, the families know?
Unknown officer: Yes, sir I've talked to (unintelligible). They know they're ashore, as far as the actual location-
Mattis: Not ashore, not ashore in Kuwait, they know they're in Iraq?
Unknown officer: Yes, sir.
Mattis: All right, good. They're in Iraq, and they're moving against the enemy, and I can't say where right now. This one, this is a big one.
Devine: Are they part of the offensive that we see on TV right now?
Mattis: Well, yes, but if you went over there, you're going to find patient, persistent presence. You don't find triumphal entry into a town. So when you talk about the "offensive", its a number of things goings on, and this area they are going into is going to be very, very good for a number of areas that you read about most, and I'll just leave it at that.
Walker: I know that we're forbidden from talking about specifics, but do you see at this point, anything arising from the whole ethics issues in the Haditha and Hamdania cases that are ongoing here affecting the morale or how the troops are approaching their jobs on the streets or on the ground in Iraq today?
Mattis: We are defined, clearly, and you can see this with the tribes coming over to us, we are defined by the ethical, highly ethical performance in the most morally bruising kind of combat that you could ever be in, where the enemy intentionally, wearing civilian clothes, violating the Law of Armed Conflict, intentionally jeopardizes innocent people purposely, with malice and forethought, in order to try to get them killed, whether by their IED or our own return fire, because they're out to win the narrative.
I noticed today that again, that a bomb went off in Baghdad. It was very serious. "A bomb went off." I also noticed in the newspaper this morning, the Early Bird, that an American bomb apparently killed someone, I don't know whether this is true or not, I only know what I read in the newspaper, in Afghanistan.
Walker: Correct. There were (unintelligible)
Mattis: So here again, you see the moral bye, the passive voice, given to the enemy's intentional murder whereas an American mistake, for which we hold ourselves accountable, for which we always investigate. This is not a rogue, when the enemy does this, this is not a rogue unit, this is a unit actually going out and intentionally firing from a mosque or from a home or something like this.
But when we do it, it's a mistake and we investigate. Yet for some reason, the moral bye, the passive voice by our media, makes it appear like what the enemy is doing is just an act of God or some Goddamned thing, whereas when we do it, it is something that, it's an ethical lapse. Yet where we have ethical lapses, we have shown ourselves to be accountable.
Walker: The genesis of my question is (unintelligible)
Mattis: I know, but I'll get to it. But that is a difficult challenge for young Marines on the street who know what they're doing to try to avoid killing people when the enemy is intentionally trying to draw that fire in.
So it's a constant challenge, leadership challenge to explain why we do the right thing in the face of an enemy that intentionally does the wrong thing.
And so, this is one of the areas that is most demanding of our young leaders -- it is demanding not only intellectually, but it is demanding almost on the level of a passion -- of how do you get the impression across to your troops that we do the right thing no matter what.
In the long run, you see the people of Anbar, skeptical of a largely Christian, all-American army in their midst, in a part of the world that does not go over well, buying in to us. What is more telling then you having them joining the Iraqi military, joining the Iraqi police, taking casualties, signing up the next day after a recruiting station is hit? They're back the next day to sign up again.
So we know we are doing the right thing, and we have external statistical indicators that go beyond me thinking we are doing the right thing that gives credibility to this. But it is very demanding, it is hard for the young troops to sort through at times, that's why they keep a few of us older guys around, to explain it to them.
Walker: You're not an older guy, are you?
Salas: The general has an appointment coming up, so we're going to have to wrap it up-
Mattis: Can you check the VTC room? As a matter of fact, you can watch this; we're going to see Gen. Zillner get promoted in Okinawa. His wife and kid are here.
Walker: Do we have two more minutes?
Mattis: Sure.
Unidentified officer: It's hooked up sir.
Walker: The point is, are your troops' hands being tied, in any way, shape or form, because we hear that, we see that in letters to the editor and I want to be able to address that point with members of the reading public, so to speak.
Mattis: No, they're not. The fact is, Abraham Lincoln signed General Order, I believe it's No. 100, of the Liberman code, back in 1863-
Walker: Right, that's the genesis of ROE, is it not?
Mattis: It is. General order No. 100, of the Liber code of 1863, It says here, men who take up arms against one another in public war do not cease in this account to be moral beings responsible for one another and to God.
We are trying to live up to a code that the enemy is intentionally violating, and it would be naive to think that this is easy for people to understand. But to protect noncombatants, I have seen so many times Marines that are quite capable of killing an enemy one day, or one hour, one hour later, doing what they can to avoid injury to noncombatants. So my pride in these young guys could not be higher. But at the same time it is a constant persuasive battle for our young leaders to guide them through the complexities, the damning complexities, the murderous, maddening complexities of a war.
Walker: Not to put words in your mouth, but their hands are not tied to be able to execute their mission?
Mattis: No, they're not. But any Marine who feels threatened not only has the option, he has the obligation to use his-
Walker: defend himself and his fellow Marines, am I right?
Mattis: He must.
Walker: Do you have any reaction to Gen. Gates being replaced? Excuse me, Gen. Pace. It's been suggested, I read a column today, in the St. Louis Dispatch, that you would have been the best man for the job. That's in the St. Louis Dispatch today.
Mattis: I have the best job in the Marine Corps right now and in the best communities in the Marine Corps surrounding this base. I am exactly where I want to be and where I enjoy being. But Gen. Pace has been a wonderful role model for all of us. He has been honest and set an example of commitment to duty and he will be missed.
Walker: I defer to Denis for one last question?
Mattis: Sure.
Devine: Do we have time?
Mattis: Yeah.
Devine: What should the American people, via the North County Times, know about the next of couple of months in Iraq from the Marines perspective?
Mattis: That the enemy will do everything it can to set a tone that everything is going downhill. And these tactics of desperation, the setting off bombs, this sort of things, killing innocent people -- yes, they're attacking our folks but increasingly ineffectively in the Marine area right now -- it is just the normal challenge of war that our country has been through before when it fought tyranny.
You could read President John Adams, when he first confronts thetyranny coming out of the Barbary states, when we got to the shoresof Tripoli, in our song. The bottom line: this problem has existedfor quite some time, and as we're seeing elsewhere in the world,from the schoolchildren in Russia to the people riding theunderground in London to people going to a restaurant in Bali, thisis not confined to just this area, and it's going to have to beaddressed. So we might as well sit down and figure out how we'regoing to address it.
Walker: Do we have got the MRAP situation straightened out; have you got the vehicles you need?
Mattis: As fast as they can build them.
Walker: But not fast enough, right?
Mattis: It's, you know, in Washington D.C., it's the town with no right answers. "Why didn't we do this years ago?" Well, we didn't armor the Hummvee; we never armored a utility vehicle before in our history. War is one improvisation after another, that's what it is. When you're bending steel and creating vehicles, we've had to violate nearly every procurement regulation that Congress has passed, and we're doing it with Congress's full knowledge and support right now. And even people who are against the war are doing what they can to get us the money. You can always find-
Walker: So the procurement issue that arose the last time the 1st MEF came home, there was a report that went in that was never, in the end it was never presented, that report came out a few weeks ago.
Mattis: That's only part of the story. The 11-14 vehicle at the time was the gold standard, could take a 12- pound mine up front, you could fire at it from the sides, you could take shrapnel. This was the best vehicle going. Had we put, We were using some MRAPS for EOD, had we started put a dozen Marines in some of the larger ones and that vehicle had incinerated them, had we decided that was the way to go, I can already write the news reports, because there's no right answer. So we had to do this thing right, we have the data, we are very confident in the vehicle now, and they're building them as fast as they can.
I think they did the right thing all the way through.
Why don't you come down, you can see Gen. Zillner get promoted, our former commander in Iraq get promoted to three stars. They're promoting everybody, it's not like when I made it, it was tough back in those days.
Devine: I wanted to follow up on one thing that you started to talk about before, because I'm trying to reconcile two things that we hear from various media sources. And one of them is what you were saying, that Al-Qaida has no program, they have no political planks, so they have no way to appeal to anybody except nihilists, you know, folks that are just interested in death and destruction. On the other hand, we hear that, the New York Times had a good piece just a week and a half ago, where they talked about, again, the idea that in the Arab world, force and strength is everything, and in a way, a substitute for a program, or a ideology, or that, that could be enough to appeal to the Iraqi people, the idea of who's the strongest now, that's who I'll listen to, and it's been suggested that that would account for the cooperation now, the working with the Marines now, because you seem like the big guys on the block, and as soon as you're gone, maybe al-Qaida again, or whoever, who seems like the strongest guys on the block then. How do you feel about those ideas?
Mattis: Yeah. You've got to be careful about saying "the Arabs feel."
Devine: Absolutely.
Mattis: Arabs are not monolithic. As much as it might ease certain people's intellectual approach for how to deal with them. I'll just tell you that, tribes are different, Sunni and Shia have different belief systems when it comes to religion. There are Arabs who are not Muslim, who are educated, sophisticated, moderate Arabs. There are zealots, the usual crosshatch of mankind. That said, religion plays a big, big role.
And so to talk about force as the only determinant of behavior is just incomplete, not necessarily wrong. There are people in many places who decide who is going to be the winner and choose up with them, there are baseball players who want to get drafted or want to play on certain teams. This is natural.
But I think if we're going to keep the idea of a civilization that is tolerant, that is life-supporting, alive, we're going to have to confront those who say it's my way or the highway.
So if it's going to come down to a test of wills, then we're going to have settle it along those lines too.
Remember, war is not over until the loser says its over. An interesting thought. This enemy can be defeated and these people, in many cases, will sign up with what brings a better life to them.
Not all. You've got to wonder about a guy like Yasser Arafat, after what everything Clinton did to deliver for him an opportunity for his people, and how he reacted. You wonder if some of these people that are charged with leadership out there, really have the best interest of their people at heart.
Whatever your issues some people may have with President Clinton, there's nobody who tried harder and got closer to perhaps bringing the Middle East peace process to an achievable end, an achievable beginning to the end, let me put it that way than did President Clinton.
So there are solutions beyond just force. That doesn't mean that people who believe in force and have made, have a perverted view of their religion's role in terms of killing anyone who doesn't believe like they do, doesn't have to be stopped. We are going to have to fight it out with those people.
But our strategic effort has got to be to build common cause with the moderate forces to try to encourage the kind of political structures allow people who are frustrated to be able to address that politically so they don't have to turn to violence.
If you don't believe that, than it's whoever has the bigger stick wins. There's a sense that that's not the whole solution in this world. At least we don't want to approach it that way.
That's not to say that there are people out there that we need to fight and defeat and break their will, there certainly are. People who celebrate the murder of Mr. Pearl on TV, these are not people that you sit down with and try to have a rational discussion with, you have one solution for those kind of people. But we cannot continue to allow this political structure they have in that part of the world.
Remember, most Muslims live in democracies. But the only Muslims in the Arab part of the world that live in democracies right now are in Iraq, as imperfect as it is, and I'd say Lebanon, an unfortunately the country that's gone through so much.
There are other countries that have made great strides, I'd say Bahrain, there a number of them, Kuwait, that have done a lot, and democracies sometimes don't look ours. There's got to be a way for people who are not, people who are frustrated to make progress without having to pick up guns, I guess is my point.
So force isn't the total construct there, I think.
Walker: Five or 10 years from now, General, if I may, unless you have a follow-up question-
Devine: Go on.
Walker: What will be the lessons learned from Iraq?
Mattis: Oh, they'll be mostly timeless ones. Like I said before, I don't think Alexander the Great would be all that surprised if he came back and saw what we confronted there right now. If you look at what happened to the American Army in Mexico City when we fought the Mexican War, there are a lot of similarities.
Let me just pull my notes out here.
It's kind of interesting to talk with you all, I don't generally sit back and.
I think one thing we are going to have to confront, and this goes back to your earlier question, is that we may up against an enemy that sees conflict as the norm. If we see peace as the norm and conflict as the aberration, it means the enemy is going to have the initiative and it is very hard to reconcile those two viewpoints. If you look at, I think it was Oliver Wendell Holmes who said that between two opposing worldviews, he was pessimistic about resolving it anyway, other way than with force. So just.
I think we will have found a new framework. It won't be containment. It will be a new framework with which to address this. I think the American penchant for going for technological solutions to, in war will have been proven to be a chimera, a mirage -- you'll never reach it.
This war is a human problem. It needs human solutions. Technology can support, it cannot substitute for a good strategy, for human factors, for our troops are better trained and better educated, and that sort of thing.
I think we will have learned that wars like this are not, unlike industrial wars where we create an army, an armed force that can move with speed, speed can actually work against you in this sort of a war because you don't learn the lessons that you need to in order to adapt to the specific conditions. So it will be the need for a more persistent presence as we try to preclude this sort of thing in the future.
And if we get into it, to stay there long enough to build trust, because trust is not built overnight.
Mattis, to unknown officer: I will talk to him in just a minute about this, OK? There is no need for Col. Kauffman to come back.
Mattis: If there is one abiding key, I think to success in war it is seizing and maintaining the initiative. And in this kind of war, how do you do that is in the human factors. In the small things, how do you build trust, you teach your men rudimentary language skills so you can just communicate.
Walker: The cultural-
Mattis: the cultural things that the Marine Corps shifted back there a couple of years ago to get good at.
I think too that we will learn that information operations -- which is just a nice way of saying getting our narrative out -- will be as important or more important than the tactics.
Because this enemy is remarkably easy for us to nail once we confront them. That's not a problem. The problem is this example I gave of, today, a bomb went off in Iraq. When the enemy gets a moral bye like that, you've got to be very, very careful to think you're winning a war against them just because you're winning the tactics. It's a war in which perception and not truth really informs the real actions and you have to watch how you apply force.
A great way to look at it is the way the 1st Marine Division characterizes it, "No better friend, no worse enemy." Discrimination. There are friendly and innocent people out there and you have to maintain your ethical balance.
We have to recognize that our electoral process too may not provide the patience that's consistent with fighting this sort of war. So if you don't create a national consensus, a strategy, and have a good, bruising debate and come up with a some degree of forward progress on this, you just get this acrimonious debate that doesn't really inform either side. So we need to really get intellectual about it.
I think too we'll find that a trained and educated military is not an overhead cost to be reduced to the fewest number of troops -- it's an investment in the security of this country. Just because it's not an aircraft carrier, a thing, if you ever get to the point of thinking that you can win the war without putting enough trained and educated troops, I'm not calling for big increases right now, but if you think you're going to pull this off using technology or some other cheap of way doing it, it's probably going to be unproductive for you.
I was on an airplane for a long trip and I was writing stuff down.
Devine: Probably no screaming toddlers behind you on the airplane.
Mattis: No, there were not. There weren't. You're right. We were coming back as fast as we could. I hope that helps a little bit on the lessons learned.
Walker: Very much so, very much. The Marine Corps talks about lessons learned all the time, I wanted to know what your reflections would be or the lessons learned thinking down the road, a couple of years ago, when you look back.
Devine: You mentioned earlier the hydrocarbon law, the political process in Baghdad, and I'm struck by, in your conversation with Mark in December, or January, and today, when you describe the Marines' mission, the work in Anbar, it seems wonderfully unaffected, by the way you phrase it, by the political machinations in Baghdad. Far more so than when Gen. Petraeus speaks about the overall-
Mattis: I may have misspoke if I gave that.
Devine: I probably misunderstood.
But I'm curious about, whether you think, because we've been hearing about the hydrocarbon law and we're almost there, and we're close to a compromise, for more than a year now, easily, and I just want to know, to what degree you an succeed if things don't rapidly improve in Baghdad, in the political, in the parliament?
Mattis: There are an awful lot of demands on Maliki's government. There are demands by the terrorists, who are trying to blow it up. There are demands on it by the Iranians. There are demands on it by the Americans. By the U.N., the U.N., the U.N. just, even Russia, everyone voted to continue the mandate there recently. Government itself, every member of it, said they want the U.S. troops to stay.
Sure we'd like to see faster progress.
Ever hear of guy before you were born named Gary Sadler (sic) who wrote "Seeds of Destruction" (sic) or.
One of the lines in the songs "handful of senators won't pass legislation."
Walker: The song, you're talking about the song.
Mattis: "They tell me, over and over again."
Devine: "Eve of Destruction"?
Walker: Right, "Eve of Destruction."
Mattis: "handful of senators won't pass legislation." We're about 200 years old and we're still having trouble passing civil rights legislation.
I think it's easy to look at others and apply a standard, especially a country that's never had a democracy and now trying to be one, with a sense of timeliness of their effort that is unrealistic. But then, the point is, what about our electoral process? It has an army that is trapped, that they think, trapped over there in a war that appears to be unrelenting and not improving. In fact, it's improving a great deal, but it had a long way to go, and every time you had, you could start, you had to fall back and do four more things before you could start, and this sort of thing. So it's been hard.
A lot of hard work has been done, and there is a lot of hard work left to be done. But you keep putting one foot in front of the other. If this is important, we can win this. We know we can win it. There's nobody more convinced of that than the young troops who have spent the most time over there.
So why is it that I go over there and hear the most positive things, or here on this base, but I go to Washington and I hear the most despair? And I can't answer that, that's for you, that's where you need to settle, sort things out, because I am too close to the daily effort to turn out a positive outcome. There are still positive and negative outcomes possible.
Devine: Do you think that the idea of partitioning Iraq should be on the table? You know, a three-way division.
Mattis: Yeah, my first question back to you is what makes you think it would stop at three ways.
And so if you're talking about a complete disintegration of the Iraqi state, that doesn't help anyone, not the Iraqis, not the region, not the world, in the midst of this natural resource-rich area.
The second thing is, a lot of people think that this is all a country that was put together by Gertrude Bell and Winston Churchill and this sort of thing. But I was recently reading something, I wish I could remember where, by an Arab historian named Basri, he likes his last name, in there was a statement, I forget where I read this, he said there are two Basras. One, the big one is in Iraq, the small one I think is in Morocco.
This guy died in I believe in 1831 and he used the name "Iraq." I don't think this thing started with the Brits. And so, now, the Iraq, did it reach on up to the Kurdish areas, I don't know, but you might want to just take a look at an Arab historian named Basri, that I believe died in 1831, who was calling the area Iraq.
I think there is more longevity to this state than we have sometimes given it credit for.
And as I talk to people there, and I talk to a fair number there, I don't see this urge to separate. I also don't see a strong urge to come together. I think that if the central government were seen not as the source of Saddam's power, but the source of monies, you know, resources coming out, doing what governments are supposed to do for the good of the people, that you can create a sense of community there. There's enough Sunni-Shia marriages, granted amongst more educated people in most cases, there's enough mixed neighborhoods, even now, in many many places, that have. In Kirkuk, that's Sunni and Shia.
So we tend to focus on the places, even in a symphony, when the cymbals clash, you all kind of drift away and look at it, so I understand that you look at the places that are not working.
And there is some tragic progress in a sense, very tragic, that some neighborhoods are cleaned out, and they are separate now. And people two years ago forced out of Baghdad went out and lived in Al-Qam, where people can live peacefully, and just as we saw in Bosnia, sometimes in its own way, that too creates, in the tragic march of history, an opportunity to perhaps start anew.
But I'm an eternal optimist. The pessimists are sometimes right, but they're not always right, and they don't have anywhere near as much frickin' fun as I do on a Saturday night, I'll tell you that. So I refuse.
The good guys will win. That is my world, and I am quite willing commit enough to put some steel into that argument.
Walker: I have one final question, General, and I ask you with some trepidation. Your age today?
Mattis: I'm 57.
Walker: Thank you, sir.
Mattis: No sweat. I'm proud of it.
Devine: I have another question, if it's OK, if we have time. Great thanks. Just this week, the Defense Department released a pretty scathing report, that we were all expecting, on the mental health aspect of the military health system. And I wanted to ask you how you feel Pendleton is situation and how you feel the Marines in general are doing, in terms of how they were, in terms of their support, their treatment, and where improvement or efforts need to be directed in the future.
Mattis: Sure. War is a terribly disheartening thing -- the wastage of spirits and lives. In, as a matter of fact, just before you walked in, the reason you were held up out here, is I was talking to a young man who had his leg amputated down at Balboa today. Or yesterday, I guess. He's on the phone, his wife's there, he's doing fine. But, boy, that's a heck of a cost, isn't it, for a young guy, to have such a life-changing event.
So the costs, physical, are obvious to us. But the mental costs?
Nobody went ashore at Iwo Jima and came off that island the same. Nobody. These guys are the same. You look like at a guy, erudite, Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., the most articulate justice, associate justice, probably in the Supreme Court's history, he was colored forever by his time as an Infantry officer during the Civil War. Colored his practice of law, his view of life itself, everything.
But the Tom Jones song "It's Not Unusual" comes to mind. It'snot unusual to feel a certain way when you come out of this. Andpeople all react differently.
But to look at this purely in terms of illness and not wellness is the wrong thing. We also have many people come out of this more committed to community, more committed to their family, more committed to their faith and something larger than themselves. We have people come out of this who actually come out as better people.
That does not deny the fact that they will have at times a very difficult reckoning with what they have seen and experienced.
But if you start from a position of wellness, if you accept this as not unusual, if you say that this is the normal outgrowth of an abnormal situation called combat, then you remove some of the mystery.
I'm amazed that I can read newspaper articles that on the one hand say that the military has some negative connotation to this. We don't. I have senior officers, senior NCOs and junior Marines and sailors who have been to counseling, and their careers are going on quite well. And yet I can read in the newspaper, that my God, we've deployed people who've had counseling, or they've had some kind of drug that they've taken for a while to help them get through it, but if they've taken drugs for a heart condition, and now they're OK again, they can get deployed. In other words, for all of us saying that there's no, there's no, what's it called-
Devine: Stigma?
Mattis: Stigma.
Walker: Stigma. The heart of the issue, I think, is that there's a stigma associated with troops seeking counseling for PTSD. That's been an issue I think.
Mattis: And there isn't. Proud young men are sometimes reluctant to bring these things forward, and when asked why, they may say publicly, well, I don't want to hurt my career. In fact, we all have to accept that at times you're going to need a little help.
We tell them listen, if you're going to take a hill, do we just send you up there with a bayonet, or do we also give you artillery fire and air support. You need some support, you call for it.
So we try to put it in terms of wellness, and we can get them help.
Now, when you take an organization that was built for the long term, and for short sharp fights, and then you go into something like this. Take the Israeli army, look at how they did in the fights, Six Day War here and this sort of thing, and look at the increase in psychiatric casualties during the occupation of Southern Lebanon and the counterinsurgency war, you get a sense of the different human responses to this kind of war.
We have got a lot of programs to prevent this, we have programs to catch people who are having trouble dealing with it, we have programs to catch them, we have programs that everyone goes through coming home so you can at least identify what's happening, and then for those who go into a disease kind of category. The ones who haven't been able to handle it, and we're all different, some people have seen a lot of worse things than others, too, then you've got to have medical care available for them.
And this is a war because of the IED where Traumatic Brain Injury is a much more statistically significant injury than it was in any war. So did we have all the Traumatic Brain Injury research and doctors positioned in place? No. This is the human experience; you have go through things sometime to identify what it is you need.
But I'll tell you there is no lack of commitment; there is no lack of resources. There is no one I have to go in and explain this to and I have to argue with them. There is none of that. There's just how best do we adapt to the situation.
Now, for those refugees from accountability who ____ sit on the outside and say you didn't have something right, I say well come in and show us how to do it right.
I am unimpressed by people who have never had to write a letter to a next of kin who sit there and say, well, you should have thought of something.
We didn't have the budgets that would allow us to, you know this, probably rightfully so, you don't sacrifice the treasury of the country to make the best military to fight every kind of war and then wonder why you have seven million men under arms, here's your counterinsurgency army, here's your conventional, here's your nuclear, you try to make an all-purpose force. What that means is that you can always come in and say well the medical part of this general-purpose force wasn't targeted on this one. True. OK. Welcome to reality. I'll bet I can show you how you don't have the right computers in some of your newsrooms.
Devine: I'll bet I can show you that.
Mattis: Exactly. I'm talking about a newsman I know who came from the Wall Street Journal, from the New York, from the Washington Post, who said he went from the Wall Street Journal to the Washington Post, he said he went from the modern era to the medieval era. Right there, he couldn't believe.
You could always find fault with folks, I guess. But what's important is is everyone committed to doing the right thing, then you can find the solution. As long as they're doing the best I could do if I was in their shoes, I'm not going to condemn them. We're doing the best we can on it, and from what we're getting from families, by and large, it's meeting most of the requirements. You could always find where it's breaking down. I know people who've got Blue Cross/Blue Shield who say it's breaking down. And other people. It's just the nature. You have individuals trying to get individualized care out of a bureaucracy. It could be the food at the commons dining hall at the university there that doesn't meet their expectations. That's the nature of life.
Walker: Indeed, when it gets down to the unit level are people made aware that it's not going to be a career ender, it's not something to run from, it's something to embrace and to deal with.
Mattis: Yeah, but in an age when victimhood is exalted in America, the idea that my, I would be victimized if this happens, it has a certain, it kind of has some cache.
Walker: Yes, sir.
Mattis: I think that we also have to deal with that concern, but what we don't want to do is to give that concern legs, either. Winston Churchill put it, "A lie could be halfway around the world before the truth has its pants on. I'd only say that in the information age, a lie could be three times around the world before the truth has its pants on. It's just one of those things.
There's just too many cases where people have had help, and their careers have gone on well. I'm not going to say their names out of privacy, but you have read about some of them in the newspapers, and that's within the last month or two. And some of them today are now military people who are now talking heads on TV. So it didn't seem to hurt their careers too much.
Now, they're not, I suppose they could all come out, likecolorectal cancer, and say I'm a survivor, and I went through this,and that might be good. But the fact is people have a sense ofprivacy about certain things. And so it works against probablyputting out the example where people say, 'Oh, he came out, he saidhe had a problem and he did OK.' People are private people.
Devine: Can I ask you, you mentioned the information age and the information war is so important. Have you had troubles, unexpected challenges, with Marines' e-mails, blogs, and is that, I'd like you talk a little bit about that.
Mattis: I have not had the problem, as commander of the Marine forces in the Central Command area. I've not had the problem. We do caution them don't put something out there the enemy can use. This is only, we owe a degree of confidentiality about our operations. And that is, I think, generally speaking, most people understand that, It's where do you draw the line, and therein lies the rub. But I've not had the problem.
At the same time, this enemy is reading our material, and we're by the way, we're reading theirs. I like getting on jihadist Web sites and looking at them, it's revealing.
So we just encourage them to use their head. Don't talk about what's coming up, and don't give the enemy, you'll notice that when we report our deaths out of al-Anbar, just say a Marine was killed or wounded today in al-Anbar. We don't say, by a rocket at this time and this location. The idea is we do not give the enemy feedback that they're hitting inside the camp at the right place.
So this is part of the confidentiality we always, we don't give the enemy an advantage. Unintended. Marines don't intend it. But we live in an age where an awful lot of things are revealed, informationwise, and so they come from an open mindset, and you just got to be real careful. And you show them, here's what you said, you don't realize it, but look what happened to this unit over here, and you try to connect the dots, and oftentimes its difficult to do. But these Marines are not naive either. You explain this to them, they understand it. Constant education. But it's not something that's come to my attention as an issue.


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- dbcarr34Asked on November 18, 2014 at 04:14 PM
Hey Ben,
The payment form has been added to the website, yet is turned off at the moment. I am attaching a couple of photos for your review. I am getting a "this website does not supply identity information" and " ! " and the beginning of the website URL. This was happening to other pages, but I went in and changed all of the http to https on those pages and the " ! " before the URL went away. I thought that maybe the css code in the form needed to be changed from http to https so i went in and changed that also. Still, I am getting the same alert when at this page. Any suggestions? Thanks, Dennis
- JotForm SupportjonathanAnswered on November 18, 2014 at 05:42 PM
To get the embedded code of the form that uses the secure URL please make sure that the 'Secure Form' tick box is cheked during the time you get the embed code.
User Guide: https://www.jotform.com/help/63-How-can-I-receive-SSL-Submissions
When intending to use secure URL of the form, make sure also that anything embedded on the form itself (i.e. images, url link, etc) is also using secure link.
This will ensure that the browser will not pop-up with unsecure contents alert every time the form is browse.
Hope this help. Inform us if the issue persist.
- dbcarr34Answered on November 19, 2014 at 12:41 PM
Thank you. I do notice the images are not https. How do i go in and change these? When i go to preferences>form styles> inject custom css, I don't see where to change images to https. I changed all other items here to https. I am an amateur so please tell me step by step how to do this.
*I can preview a form and click on 'inspect page' to see code, but don't I need to change photos to https somewhere else?
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Hi Dennis,
For the Top header Image:
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4. Click "Save Image" button and that's it:
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Don't forget to save the form. Do the same when adding images to your form, make sure that the URL will always start with https://.
Thank you!
- JotForm SupportWelvinAnswered on November 19, 2014 at 02:05 PM
By the way, I've fixed all the URL's to start with https://. You don't need to change anything now, but the guide should still help you how to do it ;)
Thank you!
- dbcarr34Answered on November 19, 2014 at 03:39 PM
Hi Welvin,
Thanks for your help/support! Your team does a great job over there-especially helping us without css and html experience. This has been a multi-month project getting this form complete and behind me. I appreciate your teams support, and need to get it finalized.
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3. I took out the jotform image. As great as your team has been, I am trying to keep this form as clean as possible
Thanks, and I will be eagerly waiting your reply to finish this up!
- dbcarr34Answered on November 19, 2014 at 04:06 PM
Hello Again Welvin,
I spent some more time trying different things and figured it out. Thanks again for your help. I think I am all set at this point. I will let you know if I need anything else.
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