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Reports: Glenn Beck fans turn health forum into 'near riot'
By Stephen C. Webster
Published: August 6, 2009
Updated 5 hours ago
Update (at bottom): Video of town hall disruption surfaces on YouTube
In a stunning display of anger, Florida Republicans and fans of Fox editorialist Glenn Beck turned a Tampa healthcare forum into a "near riot," one reporter said, as they attempted to enter the meeting hall and drown out a group of community organizers and a member of congress.
There were at least two reports of violence at the forum.
"The meeting which was scheduled to begin at 6:00 at the Children's Board of Hillsborough County drew hundreds of people who quickly began to overwhelm staff and event organizers at the front entrance," reported Tampa news station 10 Connects.
The channel added: "10 Connects photojournalist Kevin Carlson, [who was] inside the meeting reports at least one fist fight breaking out inside."
Tensions were raised as Rep. Kathy Castor (D-FL) attempted to convene the meeting, only to be drowned out by protesters banging on the windows and jeering, "Tyranny!" and "40 million illegals."
"Thursday's forum/near riot was sponsored by state Rep. Betty Reed, D-Tampa, and the Service Employees International Union, who apparently had hoped to hold something of a pep rally for President Obama's health care reform proposal," noted St. Petersburg Times reporter Adam Smith.
He continued: "Instead, hundreds of vocal critics turned out, many of them saying they had been spurred on through the Tampa 912 activist group promoted by conservative radio and television personality Glenn Beck. Others had received e-mails from the Hillsborough Republican party that urged people to speak out against the plan and offered talking points to challenge supporters."
Outside the meeting hall, one Randy Arthur, of Oldsmar, Florida, was injured by door minders, according to one report. "[Hall] said he would file a police report," reported Tampa Bay Online.
"He and his wife, Kathy, were outside the meeting room when organizers tried to close the doors," the publication continued. "Randy Arthur and others tried to stop them 'and he didn't give up," Kathy Arthur said."
Mrs. Authur reportedly said her husband was "slammed into a wall," suffering a ripped shirt and scratches on his chest.
Because of all the commotion, the forum ended early, 10 Connects noted. Those in support of the president's health reform agenda were reportedly outnumbered at the meeting by nearly three-to-one.
Such "mobs" have been denounced in recent days by Democratic lawmakers, while journalists like MSNBC's Rachel Maddow have revealed the corporate interests and Republican operatives that bankroll and organize these town hall disruptions.
In a prepared statement, Florida Democratic Party Chairwoman Karen Thurman echoed her party's stance on the healthcare "mobs."
"Recently, [our] thoughtful discussions are being interrupted by angry mobs - well funded and organized by Washington special interests - attempting to drown out the voices of the hard-working Floridians who are desperate for health insurance reform," she said. "These groups are not concerned about Americans' access to quality heath care, but are extreme ideologues, only interested in 'breaking' the President and thwarting the change Americans voted for last November."
Additionally, Fox editorialist Glenn Beck, who promoted the group that arranged this particular protest, earlier this week pleaded with his viewers to resist turning violent.
A recent CNN poll found a slim majority — 50 percent — support the president's health reforms.
The United States has almost 50 million uninsured citizens who face tremendous financial hardship should they ever fall ill or require hospital care. Obama's proposed reforms seek to create a "public option" that would extend low-cost coverage to those who are ineligible for or otherwise cannot afford private insurance.
This video was published to YouTube on August 6, 2009.
This video is from Tampa's local Fox News affiliate, broadcast Thursday, August 6, 2009.
Raw Story
By Brad Friedman on 8/3/2009 12:42PM
Wingnuts Receive Marching Orders On How to Disrupt Upcoming Town Halls With Phony Outrage
Corporate media stand ready to help as usual...
[Updated: Right on cue, the Teabaggers turn out to disrupt town hall meetings over the weekend. Video and details at end of article. ... UPDATED AGAIN: Lots more video now, the zombies come out all over the country.]
Are there simply no democratic (small "d") processes left that the Right isn't willing to corrupt to their own corporatized, nefarious purposes? It would seem not.
This from ThinkProgress, concerning the rightwing, corporate-sponsored (read: astroturf) "grassroots" FreedomWatch coalition, and their conveniently leaked talking points instruction memo [PDF] on how to create an appearance of dissension --- "Yell...Stand up and shout out...Rattle Him...Be Disruptive Early and Often" --- at upcoming town hall meetings back in Congressional districts over the August recess...
Rocking the Town Halls - Best Practices
A Political Action Memo
We here in Fairfield County Connecticut conducted an action at Congressman Jim Hime's Town Hall meeting in May 2009. We believe there are some best practices which emberged from the event and our experience, which could be useful to activists in just about any district where their Congressperson has supported the socialist agenda of the Democrat leadership in Washington.
-- Artificially Inflate Your Numbers: "Spread out in the hall and try to be in the front half. The objective is to put the Rep on the defensive with your questions and follow-up. The Rep should be made to feel that a majority, and if not, a significant portion of at least the audience, opposes the socialist agenda of Washington."
-- Be Disruptive Early And Often: "You need to rock-the-boat early in the Rep's presentation, Watch for an opportunity to yell out and challenge the Rep's statements early."
-- Try To "Rattle Him," Not Have An Intelligent Debate: "The goal is to rattle him, get him off his prepared script and agenda. If he says something outrageous, stand up and shout out and sit right back down. Look for these opportunities before he even takes questions."
As detailed in the full memo, the strategy "worked," and media took the bait in the Himes' Town Hall event mentioned.
Over the weekend, far-right kook Michelle Malkin, for some reason, was allowed a seat at the roundtable on ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos as if she was a legitimate voice.
She predicted (video here) that where Democrats and the White House have "vastly underestimated just how grassroots this movement is," they would soon face "townhalls-gone-wild" in the weeks ahead...
"These YouTube videos are viral," she noted before mentioning a town hall event where Hillary Clinton "was booed" some time ago, and promised that "we're gonna see a replay of that" in meetings across the country in the weeks ahead. So that's the plan. A "counter-insurgency," as Malkin called it, hatched and funded by the corporate sponsors of the phony "grassroots," and publicized for all on ABC and, no doubt, soon to be covered by them, Fox, MSNBC, CNN and all the rest as soon as the video tapes are in.
All of that in contrast to the massive and real grassroots protests that occurred over the last eight years over disastrous and actually illegal Bush Administration policies that were carried out with nary a peep of corporate media coverage (other than to marginalize, lampoon, and otherwise disparage them as "unAmerican").
Anyway, that's the plan for the next month, and it will likely play out, as carefully stage-managed and pre-ordained as it all is, without a hitch over your public airwaves and government-subsidized cable outlets. It will then be reported and perceived as "Democrats and Obama under pressure from the public over their healthcare plans and massive government spending!"
Got it? Enjoy the phony show.
Right.... so its the evil corporations and the GOP are the ones who started this debacle. "Its not a grassroots get together"... Please tune out the bs from msnbc and fox. The taking heads are on the sidelines at this moment wanting a piece of the action late in the game. This debate started on its own by concerned citizens that believe health care is not a right. Now you have the Obama administration sending out their wonderful organizational brown shirts (Unions, Acorn, etc) to counter logic.
"Phony show".... Americans for the past year have been watching the media tell us how we should all get a thrill going up their leg when the dear leader speaks. Now they want you to believe that this isn't grassroots. Talk about a "phony show". Funny that this type of organizational get together isn't condemned when its on the other spectrum. Its "democracy at work". But when the other side does it its somehow tampering the process of. Its time for those in congress to go back to the drawing board.
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"Dissent is patriotic!!" . . .unless, of course, you happen to be a Republican, or a conservative, or a non-partisan Democrat. . .then you're a racist nazi paid off by corporations who can't handle a black person in office.
Hypocrisy sucks.
By Peter Orvetti
Published 08/11/09
The Chilling Effect
There was an ugly turn in the national debate over health care policy last week. Reasoned arguments were cast aside, and threats, name-calling, and coercion took center stage. Oh, and some of the critics of President Obama's plan got out of hand too.
Aggression, intimidation, and physical violence of the sort seen at some of the so-called "town hall" meetings on health care have no place in public discourse. Such tactics are despicable, not to mention counterproductive. But those in the halls of power are employing subtler, though still insidious, tactics to suppress dissent.
"If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to [email protected]." That's the message posted last Tuesday, not by the Democratic National Committee, nor by Obama's re-election campaign-in-utero Organizing for America, but on the official White House website by a government employee. Can you imagine if the last administration had posted something like that about the Iraq war?
In a letter to Obama, Sen. John Cornyn wrote, "I am not aware of any precedent for a President asking American citizens to report their fellow citizens to the White House for pure political speech that is deemed 'fishy' or otherwise inimical to the White House's political interests. ... I can only imagine the level of justifiable outrage had your predecessor asked Americans to forward emails critical of his policies to the White House. I suspect that you would have been leading the charge in condemning such a program-and I would have been at your side denouncing such heavy-handed government action."
The White House website message called on readers to rat out "disinformation" about the President's agenda -- which legal analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano warns may be a violation of the Privacy Act of 1974. But a lot of the Democratic criticism of the opposition is not even about its message -- it's about the method of delivery. Sen. Barbara Boxer said on MSNBC, "This is just all organized. You in the media have to take a look at what's going on here. This is all planned. It's to hurt our president and it's to change the Congress."
Well, yes, some of the actions have been organized -- just as demonstrations against the Iraq war have been organized, just as demonstrations against Vietnam and in favor of civil rights were organized. That's called "the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." And yes, it is aimed at changing the direction of policy, or, failing that, to change the policy makers. Isn't that the point of all activism in a free society?
While his partisans were making these complaints, Obama himself -- with that hypocritical speed that only political types can withstand without getting whiplash -- sent an email to supporters. The former community organizer wrote, "We've got to get out there. These canvasses, town halls and gatherings only make a difference if you turn up to knock on doors, share your views and show your support."
Political journalist A.B. Stoddard said of the Obama Administration's efforts, "They obviously feel that they have to fight back against these 'mobs'. . . but this is democracy in action. There is nothing they can do. The more they complain about it at the White House level, I think the worse it becomes."
The issue here is not whether or not an expanded government role in paying for health care is a good idea. You do not need to be an opponent of the President's plan to be concerned by this orchestrated -- dare I say, organized -- effort to stifle and marginalize any criticism of the President's views. It was bad when Bush did it, it was bad when Nixon did it, and it's bad when Obama is doing it.
It does seem that one good thing has come of all this, however. The atmosphere at the "town hall" events has become so toxic that some members of Congress have cancelled the large, staged events in favor of actually scheduling one-on-one meetings with their bosses -- their constituents -- to discuss their concerns. That's change we can believe in.
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10% of the nation does not have health insurance, and about half of those people don't even attempt to attain it. It isn't even a concern. The rest can not afford it. So everyone believes that we should sacrifice our current system to help this small percentage?
The people in these town hall meetings are about as well informed as you can find in the public and are hard working people. I am sure both sides are promoting "staged protests and staged support". Make no mistake everyone of us is going to lose if this passes, maybe not today, but sometime in the future and those that supported it will regret it.
It sounds great that "everyone will be covered", but it's not that simple. I am in health care, and the system now isn't great, but health care isn't cheap and to think that the goverment can provide it for cheap is ignorance. Health insurance can be attainable for most that do not have it, just like so many things in this country it is a matter of priority. Most don't make it a top priority.
I don't know how many young people I have seen (including myself at one time) make a monthly payment for a new car and/or cell phone or whatever else without ever considering they might want health insurance.
I won't say health care is not a right, but at the same time it's not the governments place to dictate distribution of health care to the entire population. With this plan, we will at some point lose the resources and personel to support this type of system and that is when we will see rationing. Trust me, there will not be college students willing to spend another decade of their life along with thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars to be a part of a profession that is at the mercy of the government and has little reward for that type of investment. The quality of health care and the efficiency of the system will decline. Throw in the aging baby boomers that will still be collecting social security, and it starts to look pretty bad.
Why don't you say something with some substance instead of bashing someone. And I am sorry, but MSNBC, CBS, NYT, and all of the other media sources are no longer credible sources. We should question everything we read or hear and not accept it with blind faith.
Is our defense that good? I think so. And the scary part is that the whole team seems to take a sadistic pride in shutting people down. What is Pop feeding them? They looked brainwashed out there, a single minded machine that just eats up their opponents. -----pjrfan
Health care isn't cheap for many reasons. The health care industry is composed of many entities private to their own fields combined to provide care for the people.
This would not be an issue if the governement offered subsidy as they do in the agriculture/farm and ranch industry.
Nationalisation of health care will cause the issues as described above.
After experience with those close to me in the many fields associated with health care (Physician, Pharmaceutical, Insurance, Hospitals, Etc.) I have come to know that all extreme costs associated with health care in general are attributed to fraud, malpractice and greed.
If government resorts to providing health care for every individual then individuals will loose out in many cases less than adequate health care.
But regulation of cost for ordinary office visits to physicians would help lower insurance rates. (I know our family doctor charges $75 for a visit to their office when all we might spend is 15 minutes in consultation)
Not allowing insurance companies to place people in a "death spiral" regarding renewal and/or claims would help eliviate many who once carried insurance but cannot anymore because of this practice.
Pharmaceutical compannies if subsidized by the government could absorb much of the costs involved in research and development of medications and prescriptions thus reducing the over all cost of purchasing these items.
Point is...there are already ways privately and substantive to help make health care affordable to all without the government becoming the sole entity of provision. Government as the provider is not the answer if you want to remain free to make your own decesion.
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It's got to be a meeting of the minds. A give and take. It CANNOT be allowed to be run by any single entity...governemnt or otherwise.
IMO...government subsidy and rate regulation along with private enterprise can make this work. Much in the same way subsidization has worked for the agriculture/farm/ranch industry.
Food costs to all Americans would be astronomical if it weren't for the way it works now.
most accomplishments are made because you visualize it before it happens...RMS
I thank God every day that my husband had his bone marrow transplant before I lost my job. And he had complications, came very close to dying and is now back in the hospital. I have United Health Care for which I am paying almost double the amount I was paying last year. No, I have not lost my job but being that I am in the airline industry nothing is safe. If I were to lose my job, Cobra payments are outrageous.
How many of you have ever had a treatment denied because the insurance company said it wasn't covered? My husband did. Isn't that rationing? The insurance company telling the doctor what is medically necessary. We got a bill for one of his hospitalizations one time stating that we owed the whole amount until the doctors proof the medical necessity. Gee, just that he would have bled to death without the blood transfusions.
We are grateful that UHC decided to cover the transplant and that I still have my job and that insurance. Oh, we could have gone with Aetna or Blue Shield which would have been less out of my pocket but what stopped us was the fear that they would not cover a preexisting condition. That is definitely one thing that should never happen.
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Trrrroy wrote:kearly wrote:It's too obvious to be funny, but you can't hear this guy's name without thinking about that Key and Peele sketch.
That sketch hilarious and so true. In this draft alone there's Shamarko Thomas, Barkevius Mingo, Quanterus Smith, and Jawanza Starling. And that's just off the top of my head.
GCrow wrote:Guy is an athlete!
At the Combine he provided;
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Can I haz consistency, Bobbeh Lu? (Photo by Andy Devlin/NHLI via Getty Images)
Robert Luongo looks to shake off last night's poor performance in Edmonton as he and the Vancouver Canucks return home as they face the Anaheim Ducks tonight at GM Place. Both teams are looking to rebound from losses, and both teams are playing the second half of back-to-back games.
The last time the Canucks lost and then immediately faced a team that also lost, the Canucks beat the Sharks in one of their better games of the year. The Canucks will need an equally strong rebound against the always-tough Anaheim Ducks.
But this is what the Canucks have done all year. Rebound. The Ducks… not so much. The Canucks are 17-7-0 after a loss. The Ducks are 14-11-4. The Canucks are 8-3-1 in game #2 of back-to-back games, while the Ducks are 3-8-3 in the same scenario. Those are two encouraging stats that lean heavily in the Canucks favour.
Despite the Canucks 2 straight losses, they have had a very successful month thus far, going 7-3-2 in March. The problem right now is that they are 1-2-1 in their last four games and Luongo has looked pedestrian, at best, in his three combined losses. In fct you could argue that Luongo has looked skaky for most of this month. He started the month well, with a win in Detroit. After that, Luongo has been pulled twice and has gone 6-3-1. For the month of March, Luongo has let in 29 goals in 10 games, with 4.07 GAA, and has let in 3 goals or more in 6 of those 10 games. He also has a trend of playing well in 1-2 games, then playing poorly in 1-2 games. Back and forth. Back and forth.
There is no consistency in his game right now, and as a result he is hurting the Canucks. There is no better evidence of that than last night's game. If Luongo is the type of goalie that needs to play every game, let him play. At some point though, his coaching staff needs to sit him down and verbally slap him in the face to shake him out of this funk that he's in. The Canucks cannot afford to start sliding down the standings with nine games left.
For the rest of the season, Vancouver does not leave the Pacific time zone. Every game starts at either 7pm or 7:30pm. Maybe that is the consistency that Luongo needs. For the sake of the Canucks record, we all hope so.


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Peak 8,924 (Wallowas)
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The broad unnamed Peak 8,924 from Needle Point
The southwest hanging basin.
The northwest bench and Needle Point.
The summit.
Though this unnamed mountain is not among the highest in the Wallowa Mountains it is the highest on the divide separating the main Eagle Creek from the East Fork of Eagle Creek. It's a bit unusual in that it possess so much bulk near the top with the steep slopes being at the middle and lower elevations giving it a raised blocky appearance. While the actual summit point is not noteworthy, there are a number of interesting features high on the mountain that would require extended time to fully experience what is offered. There are at least eight small to large lakes in the basins of this broad mountain and two or three other small ponds or saturated wetlands.
The highpoint sits on the main divide with a larger spur ridge running off to the southwest. Connecting this ridge to the main mass of the mountain is a large level to gently sloped bench that sits 1,200 feet above Eagle Lake. Between the main divide south of the mountain and the southwest ridge a hanging basin supporting beautiful tarn and undulating landscape packed with springs and meadows is situated at approximately 8,300 feet. The north side of the mountain drops off precipitously from the bench into the basin that contains Hidden Lake and its three small satellite lakes all situated in beautiful subalpine meadows and wetlands. A small northeast running spur separates this basin from the Moon Lake basin and the general east side of the mountain. This east side drops off sharply from the summit, and then spreads out into acres of gently sloped talus with a beautiful tarn above the tree line. From the northern basins it is easy to connect into the Lakes Basin and other points into the central Wallowas, however such travel would require longer extended hikes.
The mountain rises nearly 1,500 feet above Eagle Lake and 2,500 to 3,000 feet above the bottom of Eagle Creek in the middle of the main Eagle canyon. To the east the East Fork of Eagle Creek is over 3,100 feet below in the vicinity of the mountain and the summit is about 1,700 feet above the Hidden Lake Basin to the north. The mountain is composed mostly of granodiorite, but there is some brownish Hurwal Formation rocks on the bench and ridge north of the summit and a few dark basalt dikes cutting through the mountain. The mountain has 484 feet of prominence, with the connecting highpoint being Needle Point on the opposite side of Eagle Lake.
The summit itself is one of the least interesting things about this spectacular mountain, being a relatively small point that rises gradually on the main divide and supports open, stunted whitebark pine. The east side of the summit ridge does have some exposure however. There is no summit register and it is doubtful this mountain top gets many visitors. Many people do hunt in the basins found on this mountain however.
Getting There
The approach up Eagle Creek.
The most practical route to the mountain and the only one capable of being done in a (very long) day hike is the Eagle Creek Trail 1922. To reach the Eagle Creek trailhead from Baker City and Interstate 84, get on the interstate in downtown Baker City and go north for five miles to Exit 298. Exit and turn right on Chandler Lane/OR Highway 203 (also called the Medical Springs Highway). Continue for 18 miles to the small town of Medical Springs. There are only a few buildings here. Turn right on the Big Creek road that runs southeast away from town. After approximately three miles the road enters National Forest lands and is numbered Road 67. Stay on this road for approximately 15 miles until it meets Road 77 (Eagle Road) after crossing the West Eagle Creek. Turn left on road 77 and go almost a mile. Road 77 turns away to the left, but keep straight on road 7755. Continue approximately five miles to the Main Eagle trailhead. This drive requires approximately an hour and a half from Baker City.
Trail 1922 runs approximately six miles from the Main Eagle trailhead at Boulder Park to the junction of Trail 1931 found on the south base of Needle Point. Trail 1922 turns west to Cached Lake, while 1931 turns east for another mile to Eagle Lake. This junction is very easy to miss and if one finds they have been traveling west for more than a few minutes, Trail 1931 has been missed. There is an old wood post with a fragment of a sign marking the junction, but in the brush it is very easy to miss it and the narrow track of 1931.
From Eagle Lake hike up the steep slope at the southwest corner of the lake on loose soil and gravel towards a dark outcrop almost 1,000 feet above. It is important to head for this point on the otherwise nondescript slope or more climbing than is necessary to reach the top of the ridge to the left or not getting high enough to avoid more difficult substrate to the right. As the outcrop is approached, simply go over what looks like the more level and easier way to cross the top.
Once over the top a beautiful subalpine basin is reached that provides a fairly level path to the foot of the upper summit and acres of springs, meadows and a lovely small lake to explore or camp at. Head northeast, keeping approximately on the contour and between the ridge to the left and the bottoms of the rolling basins on the right. Eventually a point will be reached where this relatively gentle slope will tie into the top of the ridge on the left. Anywhere in this vicinity is a good place to cross over into the large flat bench that sits on the northwest side of the mountain just below the summit.
The upper portion of the route.
From here, it doesn't matter much how the summit is achieved. One can go directly up the ridge, keeping the rugged vertical rocks on the southwest aspect in view to the right; continue north on the interesting bench, to the main divide north of the summit where views of Moon Lake, Hidden Lake and the spectacular views of Eagle Cap and Glacier Peak can be had while one turns and follows the ridge south to the top or simply go straight up the slope from anywhere on the bench.
The entire trip would require one to be on their feet for approximately 16 miles with a total ascent of almost 4,000 feet. While a long day trip is possible, it's best to stay a night at Eagle Lake, in the valley below or on one of the nice basins high on the mountain itself.
The mountain can also be reached from the east by hiking up Trail 1910 up the East Fork of Eagle Creek about six miles, then turning up the slope in the Lawson Creek vicinity. Perhaps even better would be to continue the trail a little more then take the 1915 Trail west for a couple miles to the north basins below the mountain. Great camping can be had in this area and a number of nice scrambling routes can be found through the rugged rocks found on this side of the mountain.
Red Tape
Moon Lake, one of five water bodies in the north basins.
The Eagle Cap Wilderness has become very popular and resource damage is becoming common in some areas.
Complete regulations
are available on the Wallowa-Whitman website. Some of the more important regulations to consider for a trip into the Needle Point area are listed as follows:
Entrance into the Eagle Cap Wilderness with a party of more than 12 persons and/or 18 head of stock is prohibited. Large groups multiply impacts to the wilderness and disrupt the solitude of others.
Camping within 100 feet of lakes and 100 feet of posted wetlands unless the site is designated as a campsite is prohibited.
Eagle Lake is closed to campfires due to lack of firewood and excessive impact. Campfires are prohibited within 1/4 mile (1,320 feet) of this lake. If coming from an extended hike elsewhere, especially the Lakes Basin, be aware of specific area regulations that may apply in those areas. These would be listed on the above website. It is important that all wilderness regulations and no-trace camping techniques be followed in these especially sensitive areas.
Entering the Eagle Cap Wilderness without a permit is prohibited. The free, self-issue permits are being used to collect visitor use information only. Only one permit per group is necessary. The self issue Registration/Permit boxes are located at each trailhead near the information board. Place the trailhead copy of the permit in the registration box and carry the visitor portion with you while in the wilderness. It is helpful to have the permit tied to a backpack or saddlebags where Wilderness Rangers can see them.
Northwest Forest Pass
is necessary for parking at some Eagle Cap Wilderness Trailheads, including Eagle Creek. These mandatory passes cost $30 per year, or $5 per day, and are for sale at all Wallowa-Whitman National Forest Offices, the Wallowa Mountains Visitor Center in Enterprise, or at local businesses in the towns of, Wallowa, Enterprise, Joseph, Wallowa Lake, La Grande, Elgin and Baker City. Northwest Forest Passes may also be available at commercial outlets and national forest offices in other locations around Oregon and Washington. The passes will allow visitors to park at many other national forest trailheads across Washington and Oregon.
Hidden Lake.
There are no developed campgrounds in the Eagle Cap Wilderness, but at large camping is allowed basically anywhere. However, camp in the trees if possible and avoid meadows and places easily trampled. Good camping locations are scarce in the lower end of the Eagle Creek basin, but starting near the 1921 trail junction (about four miles up) some descent camping spots can be found.
The closest camping to the mountain is at Eagle Lake, which fills the large cirque on the north base of the mountain. Unfortunately opportunity is severely limited to a couple spots on the extreme west end. These are tight and because they are so close to the lake, campfires are not allowed. If you do not need one and you can get a spot, this is an exceptionally beautiful setting. Though they are harder to get to a couple excellent camping options can be found high up the mountain itself. On the northwest side of the mountain a large bench with water just below the summit provides incredible views of Eagle Lake and Needle Point and points beyond. The south bowl of the mountain is made up by a series of moist basins with year around water and one large swimming pool-like tarn surrounded by flat ground with several good tent sites. This is a fantastic place if you don't mind packing camp up the steep slope from Eagle Lake. The wear on the ground indicates that the mountain goats spend a lot of time here.
For those spending more time in the general area camping can be found at Lookingglass Lake, Culver Lake or Bear Lake, which are located between one to two and a half miles up the 1921 trail. There are campgrounds at the Main Eagle trailhead; Two Color, about four miles before the trailhead and Tamarack less than a mile east on the 77 road after its first junction with road 67.
When To Climb
Most people climb this mountain in the summer or fall. Getting here in the spring or winter would be a serious chore and impossible unless one was skilled at extended back country winter travel. Avalanche danger on most of this mountain would be high. In the summer come prepared for a variety of weather conditions regardless of the forecast. Local weather can change suddenly and be severe at any time.
Small tarn and the East Fork Eagle Canyon.
Mountain Conditions and Information
Wallowa-Whitman National Forest Headquarters
P.O. Box 907 / 1550 Dewey Avenue
Baker City, Oregon 97814
(541) 523-6391
Wallowa Mountains Office and Visitor Center
Eagle Cap Ranger District
Wallowa Valley Ranger District
88401 Hwy. 82
Enterprise, OR 97828
(541) 426-4978
La Grande Ranger District
3502 Hwy. 30
La Grande, Oregon 97850
(541) 963-7186
Visit the
Wallowa-Whitman National Forest
webpage for current conditions including weather, advisories or other valuable information.
NOAA Forecast
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1. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like CambriaBill@VT Oct 21, 2009 9:05 PM (in response to rael07)
I have not had a problem. You do not indicate what the problem is, but it is likely that you are not embedding the font. Check your job settings and be sure the Cambria is set to embed. You can also check a PDF and see if the font is getting embedded.
2. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriarael07 Oct 21, 2009 10:09 PM (in response to Bill@VT)
I simply get a popup dialog:
Acrobat PDFMaker
Adobe PDF printer failed to create the PDF file.
I have attached an example document
3. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriarael07 Oct 21, 2009 10:10 PM (in response to Bill@VT)
Here's the error:
Acrobat PDFMaker
Adobe PDF printer failed to create the PDF file.
Have attached an offending file
TEMP.zip 25.5 K
4. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriarael07 Oct 21, 2009 10:13 PM (in response to Bill@VT)
Here's the error I get when I try print using the File -> Print option
%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
Cambria not found, using Courier.
%%[ Error: invalidfont; OffendingCommand: show ]%%
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%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%
5. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriarael_lucid Nov 3, 2009 5:01 PM (in response to rael07)
6. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like CambriaBill@VT Nov 3, 2009 7:49 PM (in response to rael07)
I will try to see if I can replicate the problem on my VISTA machine with WORD 2007 and Acrobat 8.1.7. I have not had a problem with WORD there, but then it may be some of your setup. Knowing what job settings you are using would help. You can also select to produce the PDF in the job settings even if the font is not found. It may be that the font is not properly registered in Distiller (though the create PDF option in WORD 2007 works differently that previous versions apparently, but I am not sure if that started with AA9 or AA8). You can check the font list in Distiller.
7. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriarael_lucid Nov 4, 2009 10:29 AM (in response to Bill@VT)
Was using the default distiller settings. Cambria is listed there as a font. I have fiddled with some of the Font settings in distiller, saved the modified option file and selected to use the modified option file in the Adobe PDF printer settings. All without success.
8. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriascreen name invalid Nov 12, 2009 2:07 PM (in response to rael07)
Similar problem here. I posted that also two month ago. It seems Adobe wants to sell newer releases or are they sleeping? At least their behaviour is disappointing whatever reasons they have.
9. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like CambriaBill@VT Nov 13, 2009 7:46 AM (in response to rael_lucid)
I ran the docx file through WORD 2007 and AA8. I had no problem. I am not sure what you mean by default. I will go back and try it with the standard setting and see what happens. Did you use the Adobe PDF printer or the PDF Maker in WORD? If the latter, you need to check the PDF Maker preference to see what job settings you did use. I am not sure how that default is set.
I went back and used both the printer and PDF Maker with the standard and smallest size settings (I do not recommend either in general). In all cases the Cambria font was embedded with no problem. Apparently you have an issue with your Cambria on your system. I do not remember the system you have, but I am running VISTA for the test with AA8. It may be that the version of Cambria that you have on your system is not compatible with the font you are using in WORD. There is more to the name of a font and it may be that you have an incompatible version.
10. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriarael_lucid Nov 15, 2009 9:56 AM (in response to Bill@VT)
Hi Bill,
By 'default', I mean that I did not amend any of the settings when I installed the software. It has installed with whatever settings Adobe deems to be the standard installation settings. I am running Windows 7 with Office 2007. All the latest patches and service packs. I have also not installed any software that would logically mess with the fonts - I don't have any other desktop publishing, graphic or similar software installed. But perhaps something seemingly random has messed with the fonts.
Anyway, I have resigned myself to the problem continuing. So will either upgrade to Acrobat 9 (unlikely) or continue with other solutions.
11. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like CambriaBill@VT Nov 15, 2009 2:43 PM (in response to rael_lucid)
What job settings file are you using in Acrobat. This is listed in the properties of the printer when using the printer and under the preferences for create PDF when using PDF Maker.
12. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriap.smith0099 Nov 24, 2009 9:12 AM (in response to rael07)
I had a similar problem.
%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
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Cambria not found, using Courier.
%%[ Error: invalidfont; OffendingCommand: xshow ]%%
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%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%
I was able to resolve it by changing a one of the Adobe PDF printer settings. When you are in the print dialog, and you have selected the appropriate PDF printer, select "Properties." In the dialog box, there should be a tab titled "Adobe PDF Settings," and it should look like the below image. You need to un-check "Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts." I'm going to bet you created this document using XP or Vista, then upgraded to Windows 7. I'll go further to guess the Cambria font somehow gets changed between XP/Vista and Win7. In any case, I had a document I created using Word 2007 in Vista that I could print o a PDF. Then, after upgrading to the RC version of Win7, I couldn't print the document to a PDF anymore. Un-checking the box I mentioned here seems to fix the issue. I'll reply back if I ever find a situation where this "fix" does not work.
13. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriascreen name invalid Nov 24, 2009 11:54 AM (in response to p.smith0099)
Great, this Workaround works for me! Thx
At least this solves all my PDF related problems with Office 2007 and W7.
Only the IE8 (32bit at least) crash when printing a PDF of a Webpage over Page Preview left.
14. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriarael_lucid Nov 24, 2009 1:05 PM (in response to p.smith0099)
Great fix... thanks!!
15. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriarls8r Dec 16, 2009 6:44 PM (in response to p.smith0099)
P.Smith -
Thanks. I had the exact same problem after upgrading my Vista to Windows 7 and it was driving me nuts! I had changed so many Distiller settings that I couldn't keep things straight. I could make PDFs from Excel and PowerPoint - just not Word. I hope things 'straighten out' in Acrobat 9 - I'd hate to have this 'workaround' be the 'long-term' solution.
16. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriagingerly Feb 23, 2010 6:30 AM (in response to rls8r)
I know this is a couple of months old, but I was having the same issue. I also did the fix listed above, but went in the settings and manually selected to ALWAYS embed Cambria fonts. I am using Windows 7 with Acrobat Pro 8. Under devices and printers I went to the Adobe PDF printer, right clicked and selected Printer Properties. Then I clicked Preferences. Under default settings I chose to Edit (This is under Adobe PDF Settings). I then chose font and chose to Always Embed cambria fonts by highlighting them and clicking Add. I also saved these settings to use just in case I ever forgot how to do this fix. Hope that helps anyone else that might have still been frustrated. I can now right click on my Word docs and choose to convert again. Woohoo!
And P Smith, as to the IE crash with Adobe. I fixed that by changing my associations to my 64 bit Programs folder instead of the one in the regular Programs folder.
17. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriafiedler Feb 24, 2010 8:07 AM (in response to gingerly)
In my opinion, you should always embed fonts in your pdf files. You never know what fonts other viewers may or may not have.
Part of the problem is Abobe's confusing user interface. There is a checklist with 5 items, three of which are positives and two of which are negatives. Good user inteface design dictates that grouped checklists should all be all positive or all negative, not a mix.
Wouldn't it be easier if the checklist were:
18. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like CambriaLizBRLA Jul 17, 2010 6:28 AM (in response to gingerly)
I am having this problem (Win 7 64-bit) and none of these solutions works for me.
I've tried unchecking "use system fonts" in the dialog and changing the settings to embed all fonts, as well as telling Distiller to ignore errors and create the PDF anyway and nothing works. Acrobat 8 still complains about Cambria.
This is a huge problem because I have several hundred pages of Word Pro files that need to be PDFed. I haven't had problems with them in the past (I last PDFed them back in December and January), but there's something about the current iteration of Acrobat 8 because I tried just now on another system running XP Pro, Word 2010, and Acrobat 8 and have the same problem. It's not specifically related to Win7 64-bit/Word Pro.
I would appreciate any suggestions. I'm working on rewriting most of a 500 page manual within the next couple or three weeks.
19. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like CambriaLizBRLA Jul 17, 2010 4:24 PM (in response to LizBRLA)
A possible fix (or at least a workaround). I researched free pdf creators and chose one of the highest-rated ones to install. I was able to create a PDF without any problems on two computers from files that had caused problems. Now I'm able to use Acrobat 8 to create PDFs from the same files it was choking on before. I'm not sure what was munged, but using a different PDF creator seemed to unmung it. If it's munged again, I'll just use the freebie for PDF creation and Acrobat for editing.
20. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriapyadav05 Jul 19, 2010 8:17 AM (in response to rael07)
This problem never occurs
Can you tell me in detail exactly what happened when you did this?
21. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like CambriaLizBRLA Jul 19, 2010 8:35 AM (in response to LizBRLA)
The "fix" didn't last long. If Acrobat gives this error message, I just use the alternative and get the PDF I need. I may just quit creating PDFs with Acrobat since I am never sure when it's going to work and when it's not. The alternative works every time.
22. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriapyadav05 Jul 19, 2010 8:54 AM (in response to LizBRLA)
Plz don't use free softwares available online.. Just visit adobe and choose the right one...
This problem occurs when you use some unprofessional software & link them with adobe...
It might not be a good answer to your question but yes.. I can help you to reach to your answer..
23. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriarael07 Jul 19, 2010 3:42 PM (in response to pyadav05)
pyadav05, other Adobe fanboys, and any Adobe employees reading this:
With the greatest of respect to all of you, the attitude shown to resolving this problem has been pathetic and exceptionally unprofessional. I guess because it doesn't affect too many people there is no "official" solution.
My solution:
Simply use MS Office's SAVE AS PDF feature. It is built into Office 2007 and Office 2010.
24. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like CambriaLizBRLA Jul 19, 2010 4:19 PM (in response to rael07)
Couldn't agree with you more about the attitude. I've been using Acrobat 8 and Cambria for quite awhile and things used to work properly. I don't know what has happened, but it's definitely broken now.
Unfortunately, your solution won't work for me since I'm not printing from MS Office most of the time. I'm just relieved that I have a solution, but wonder why third-party free PDF creators work just fine but the "real thing" doesn't. That doesn't exactly speak well for Adobe, and it's not like Cambria is some sort of off-brand, non-standard, uncommon font.
25. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriajccatlin Aug 11, 2010 7:35 AM (in response to LizBRLA)
I agree: a reply from Adobe that is other than helpful is very disturbing. I hope they are not going the way of Microsoft as far as answering the "peons" who use their products with an attitude of disdain or indifference (or both). It would be very refreshing to know that Adobe actually values their customers' problems and jumps on it to figure out the problem, no matter how "small" the problem seems to them.
I have run into this issue, now that I've upgraded from Windows XP to Windows 7. I am using FrameMaker 8's Save As PDF menu option. I tried the solutions provided above. Nothing worked for me. However, I tried something on a hunch and found a solution.
I had, for some reason lost to me now, saved the Cambria fonts to a separate folder back when I first installed Microsoft Office 2007. All are .TTF files (with one .TTC file) and all are dated August or September, 2006. Just now, I copied those files into my Windows/Fonts folder, thereby replacing the current ones. Voila! Now Distiller works just fine with no errors. I've created more than one document and so far, so good.
If I run into any problems (like the issue resurfaces after I reboot), I'll post something again; otherwise, here's to hoping this is the "fix."
26. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like CambriaJim06812 Aug 26, 2010 3:54 AM (in response to rael07)
I have also run into this problem. Windows 7, MS Word 2007, up to date version of Acrobat 8 is the setup. If I uncheck the box on the print>>properties >>rely on system fonts only;do not use document fots, it seems to work.
I also added the fonts in the acrobat screens as per another poster's suggestions, but the conversion process stops when Acrobat sees the Cambria font.
Another poster used old fonts - perhaps I sould pull someoff another old machine and test it out.
Is Adobe going to fix this?
27. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like CambriaMichaelKazlow Aug 26, 2010 6:05 PM (in response to Jim06812)
@Jim06812: Acrobat 8 is not Windows 7 compatible.
Nothing but security fixes for any version but 9. Even version 9 fixes may be not be available for long since version 10 should be around the corner.
28. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriamnhoff Apr 20, 2011 2:25 PM (in response to rael07)
I have almost all the problems detailed in this forum, and none of the proposed solutions solve them.
I am using Office 2010, and Adobe Acrobat Pro 9 Extended on Windows XP. When I choose "Save As" and choose pdf, my Cambria Math equations are missing pieces. When I choose "Print" and then employ the Adobe PDF Printer, The equations are replaced by a horizontal line.
I have tried to disable "Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts" in Adobe PDF Printing Preferences. This does nothing.
I have tried to "Always Embed" all 5 Cambria Fonts (Cambria, Bambria-Bold, Cambria-BoldItalic, Cambria-Italic, and CambriaMath) in the Adobe PDF Settings box stemming from the "Edit" option in the preferences. This does nothing.
I have tried reinstalling old cambria.ttc, cambriaz.ttf, cambriab.ttf, and cambriai.ttf fonts from 2009 to my windows/fonts folder. This does nothing.
I have tried installing new cambria.ttc, cambriaz.ttf, cambriab.ttf, and cambriai.ttf fonts from 2011 to my windows/fonts folder. This does nothing.
It's impressive how there is NO solution to this problem, and I depend on creating pdfs with equations from Word. Help?
29. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriarael07 Apr 20, 2011 3:02 PM (in response to mnhoff)
Why don't you use MS Office's SaveAs PDF functionality and give Acrobat the flick?
30. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like CambriaLizBRLA Apr 20, 2011 3:06 PM (in response to mnhoff)
PDFill is the freebie product that works great for me. I continue to have the problem with Cambria, or barfing Acrobat. Never have a problem with PDFill and the files it creates are editable in Acrobat.
31. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriagkaiseril Apr 20, 2011 3:20 PM (in response to mnhoff)
Have a look at the Adobe KB article
Acrobat 9 PDFMaker and Microsoft Office 2010 | Known issues
Can you print to the Acrobat PDF printer?
Have you tried OpenOffice.org?
Does your version of the cambia font have any licensing restrictions?
Math symbols may require special handling or even a special program created to deal with them. Look at a product like LaTex.
32. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriamnhoff Apr 23, 2011 4:32 PM (in response to gkaiseril)
Thanks all for your efforts. Unfortunately I still have the problem...
-Rael, read my post #28, 2nd paragraph, to see that indeed I tried the 'Save As, .pdf', but the equations were missing pieces.
-LizBRLA, I tried installing PDFill on top of Acrobat Pro 9, and it corrupted all my Word files. I deinstalled Acrobat Pro, installed Acrobat Reader, then installed PDFill...it worked, but it doesn't fix the Cambria Math conversion problem; the equations do not survive in the final product. For all those that are thinking of using PDFill, it is only useful if you don't have Acrobat Pro, which offers the same functionality.
-GKaiseril, very good suggestions. Printing to an Acrobat PDF Printer using Acrobat Pro OR PDFill works, but the Cambria Math equations disappear.
How do I find out whether I have licensing restrictions on the Cambria font?
I was hoping to avoid installing something like openoffice or LaTeX, as I have a lot of work already set in Word. There should be a workaround where Word can still be employed.
33. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriajallisy Apr 23, 2011 5:12 PM (in response to gkaiseril)
Here are two solutions that have worked. It seems like it may be a problem with the equation editor in Office 2007+ on XP OS
per Natasha Dsouza at Microsoft Support:
Try the steps mentioned below and check if that helps:
Windows XP > Control panel > Regional and language options > Languages tab > check the box for 'install files for complex script' and click on apply.
Vista &7 should have complex script auto installed. See if that helps.
34. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriajallisy Apr 23, 2011 5:27 PM (in response to mnhoff)
Do you have XP for OS? Here is the Microsoft solution
Try the steps mentioned below and check if that helps:
Windows XP > Control panel > Regional and language options > Languages tab > check the box for 'install files for complex script' and click on apply.
35. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriamnhoff Apr 23, 2011 6:42 PM (in response to jallisy)
WOW!!! You solved it, jallisy! Thank you so much, you are my savior. Indeed I'm still on XP, but setting the regional settings killed the Cambria Math pdf problem. Hooray!
36. Re: Acrobat v8 doesn't like Cambriajallisy Apr 23, 2011 6:51 PM (in response to mnhoff)
I read blurbs about the equation editor issue but don't work with it myself.
So glad it helped!


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Minnie Mouse's house in Florida:
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I really like the batchelor pad kitchen in The Ipcress File - row upon row of beautiful copper pans, and and one of Len Deighton's Observer food strips cut out and stuck on a post.ReplyDelete
Great suggestion. I can't find any photos of it however.ReplyDelete
I love this post! I love looking at other people's kitchens. Can't wait to see yours soon. AxReplyDelete
Love your pot-stand. I imagine it to be like a giant "pick-up-sticks" game: remove one from the wrong place and it all topples over!ReplyDelete
It's mostly ok. Architects love it. All that gear in so little space they exclaim.ReplyDelete
I like David & Sam Cam's kitchen actually. All the pans on open shelves etc. Don't like anything else about them... http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jan/13/david-cameron-kitchenReplyDelete
Charming. Lovely postReplyDelete
Your kitchen is amazing - I LOVE it. Mine is tragically awaiting to unleash its potential - this year, after The Wedding of Doom, we shall be at last getting round to renovating it and I think I come up with a different design every day. So this entry was just further fuel to the fire!!! I keep thinking I should give in and have one of those people from the soul-destroying adverts come in and design one "for" me. But that thought is just too hideous to bear.ReplyDelete
Love your kitchen, and great post. I am obsessed with kitchens and cooking in other peoples, as mine is teeny weeny, but it's amazing how you can adapt.ReplyDelete
Love the little glimpse of outside through your open door. Overheard at our local Arts Trail which displays art in Saltaire village homes
Him "Have you seen anything you like?"
Her "Yes, the kitchen"
Helen:Yes quite like Sam and Cam's open shelf approach. They've got taste and the money to display it!
Little Dinner Lady: sometimes a small kitchen is better!
Chris: hehe. That's the sort of thing Brian Sewell gets really snotty about, people choosing art to go with the colour of their sofa!.
Oh, this is a wonderful post. I also very much like the Monet kitchen, I've been thereto several times, the entire Monet house and garden are great. And of course, your kitchen is beautiful and cosy, too! But I also very much liked your living room and garden when we were there for the Pasta dinner last year.ReplyDelete
I have to say, I like your kitchen the most! I have just fallen in love with it!ReplyDelete
I have to say, I love your kitchen. Afte seeing that picture I have just fallen in love.ReplyDelete
oh my gosh, Monet's kitchen is amazing! love the colours and patterns!ReplyDelete
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Re: Dzogchen and the Two Stages
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:08 am
Well, this is the thing... "Buddhism" is not always the Dharma taught by the Buddhas. Our misconceptions also integrated what is called Buddhism. But you know this, so I won't continue elaborating this triviality.heart wrote:Yes, it is quite simple. In truth the 9 yanas is probably a simplification of the vast numbers of yanas the Buddhas teach. Are all these yanas related? Yes, because they have the same source, the Buddha's realization. So we can call them the Buddha's Dharma or Buddhism or Bon or something else.Adamantine wrote:
I am starting to think too much emphasis is being placed on these labels from both sides of this dialogue. Since the word Buddha is just a referent for a fully realized being, I wonder if people would still argue with the statement dropping all foreign words (hahaha except Dzogchen, since all of us in the Dzogchen forum are so attached to that one!): "Dzogchen is the truth (dharma) expressed by fully realized beings (Buddhas)".
Ok, let's try it again, without the parenthesis! "Dzogchen is the truth expressed by fully realized beings".
Is it at all controversial? I am sure at least you and I agree that it is not Magnus. Hopefully nobody else finds it such!
Ok, let's take it a step further: "Fully realized beings also expressed things differently when trying to communicate the truth, so that different types of people could relate to the truth based on where their minds were at". Ok.. then we are back to the 9 yana system, or whatever equivalent there may be in the past or future or in other world systems.. it really does seem quite basic.


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