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Mubarik Imam
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:01 pm
Post subject: Science Lab project for Nilore School
Hope you are all doing well. We received a proposal for a science lab at Nilore School. This is our first recurring project, since the computer lab at Nilore was ADP's first project.
Nilore has come a long way since ADP's first involvement with the project. They now have a new purpose built campus and have expanded to grade 8 (http://www.ibtida.org/NiloreSchoolBuilding2005.html). The science lab will help Nilore attain AKU board affiliation (http://www.aku.edu/akueb/provaff.shtml) and ultimately prepare for expansion to the matric level.
Please take a look at the attached proposal. I look forward to hearing your thoughts and questions, so we can get back to Ibtida soon.
In particular, we are concerned about the following so far:
1) Sustainability (of the lab and teacher's salary).
2)Measuring the impact of the science lab.
3) Time-frame of implementation.
Thank you!
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Mubarik Imam
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:09 pm
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Here's the detailed equipment list for the lab.
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Khurram Jamali
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:50 pm
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Is any chapter considering evaluating this proposal?
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Mubarik Imam
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Yes, Boston. I am just about to put up the project for vote.
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Tarim Wasim
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:23 pm
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Has the Boston chapter discussed this project? It might be better for the broader group to discuss this if we're moving to a consolidated model.
Khurram, do we know how much we have in the ADP non-EQ fund at this point? There are at least 3 projects we need to decide on and knowing the total balance (and recurring cash flows) is important.
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Usman Khan
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:29 am
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Hi Mubarak,
Project seems reasonable. Do you know where they stand with the teacher training or if they already have anyone in mind for the lab instructors ? How fast will they be able to order the equipment and have it set up ? Given that its the middle of November already, it seems doubtful they'll have everything setup by Jan 2007 by the time the AKU affiliation team pays the Nilore school a visit. We can still help them setup the lab, which will eventually (whether this Jan or not) help them acquire the affiliation. I think pts 1 and 3 u mentioned are very critical for the successful implementation of the project.
On a side note, the equipment list is not very clear in the sense that there is no indication of the quantity of the items they would like to purchase. Perhaps I am missing something or it may be in a separate budget file. Hope this helps.
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Mubarik Imam
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:00 pm
Post subject: follow-up q&a with Nuzhat
Thank you for your questions Usman. I am including the replies to those below. Tarim also had some additional questions whose replies are included. Please let me know if you have any other questions. We'll be putting up the project for vote shortly.
Do you know where they stand with the teacher training or if they already have anyone in mind for the lab instructors ?
They hired a science teacher from another private school who has already started teaching. According to Nuzhat, he is willing to learn, is very organized, a good administrator and has taught at other schools. He will be the science subject teacher for the entire school. Nilore is presently identifying a teacher trainer who will provide additional (experimental) training to the science teacher and help him set up the lab in December. Possible trainers include teachers from Khuldoonia school, students from Quaid-e-Azam university.
Given that its the middle of November already, will it be possible to have everything setup by Jan 2007 by the time the AKU affiliation team pays the Nilore school a visit? How fast will they be able to order the equipment and have it set up?
They hope to purchase the equipment and have it set up by Jan 30th. The school visit by an AKU affiliate will take place in April. Nilore has already purchased furniture.
My main concern is that Nuzhat isnt sure whether they will be able to dedicate an entire room to the science lab yet or not (due to space constraints).
Can we get quantities in addition to amounts for the list that you sent?
Please see attached file. Nuzhat asked for help in coming up with the quantities. Based on previous experience in setting up labs and the number of students using the lab I have outlined the quantities in the spreadsheet. These quantities are still pending approval from Nuzhat.
Is Ibtida funding the computer teacher salary that we had funded for the first year today (as a measure of whether they'll keep funding the science teacher)?
Ibtida has continued to fund the computer teachers salary. The computer teacher has the second highest salary in the school (after the science teacher). In fact, the computer teacher has an offer from another private school and might be leaving (after training other teachers).
What is the science curriculum? Which grades will use it? Is lab usage part of their syllabus?
The current science curriculum is based on the federal board. Currently grades 5th,6th,7th will use the lab. By 2010 the school will have students enrolled in Class 10 enrollment. Once the school gets AKU Board affiliation they will also have concept based learning modules in addition to the board curriculum for each class. The idea is that early exposure to experiments and a scientific way of thought will help students in grades 5th,6th,7th and 8th. As the classes progress they will become more comfortable with increasing complexity of experiments in grade 9th and 10th.
Is it possible for Ibtida to fund the teacher's salary for the first year (and have ADP fund the equipment)?
In a worst case scenario they would be able to fund a teacher. The funding would be taken out of next years budget. Having a science teacher is critical to the success of the lab. Personally, Id argue that it is the most important component. So ideally we wouldnt want to put the school in a position where they have to decide who to fund.
The teachers salary is 6700/month+1300/month (for additional services such as labs).
Additional details about Nilore school (projects for the future):
Library: Nilore is excited about Alif Lailas model and the books they have developed. Hopefully, we can help the two organizations collaborate.
Interactive Theatre Workshop: The Interactive Theatre group will be visiting the school in January to do a workshop about issues students face, backgrounds etc. The school is hopeful to host their own theatrical events annually.
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Justin Stone
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:05 am
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Great work in getting all of this together, and especially in proposing the quantities for Nuzhat. I'm sure that adds a lot of value for them...
Are you close to putting this project up for a vote? I don't see any big outstanding questions, and no objections.
I agree that ADP should fund the teacher's salary for the first year, as we did with the computer lab. I am curious to know if Nuzhat has finalized the quantities list.
I am strongly in favor of this project because:
-It supports the ADP mission of holistic development by further strengthening an existing and proven effort (our 1st project)
-It creates direct value for the school and students
-It creates significant indirect value in the likely AKU certification
-Teaching methodology will be progressive
-Ibtdida has demonstrated effective follow-through and impressive progress following our initial funding
-Impact will be measurable with time
Let us know if there are other issues to resolve before we put this to a vote...
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Mubarik Imam
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:13 pm
Post subject: update
Thanks a lot for your feedback Justin. I agree with all the reasons that you identified for funding the project. We are very close to putting up the project for vote.
Current outstanding issues include helping the school to figure out a budget for the lab. Nuzhat Ahmad provided the items and prices for the equipment. Based on prior projects I supplied the quantity of equipment (it was finalized by a teacher trainer who has taught high school for over 10 years). As you will notice there is a difference between the amount requested ($3500 for 20 students) and what we think that the school needs (~$2600) . However, there are always unforeseen circumstances for expenditure (sinks, furniture etc), so we are trying to agree to an amount before putting up the project for vote. Nuzhat and I are discussing this issue and hopefully we can come to a solution we all agree on. Input from others would be very valuable
Some updates on the science lab:
- the room is 12 x 10 feet
- they have bought one large table so far which is lying in the center of the room (dont know if it is sufficient for 20 kids)
- there is currently no sink (they'll definitely need one for chemistry experiments)
- contrary to what Nuzhat had said before there is no gas connection in the entire village. The heaters I had seen were stand alone heaters running off cylinders. They will think of some "out-of-the-box" solution for this.
- Nilore has started talking to the AKUEB people. They have sent them the syllabus etc. They are planning the first informational visit soon.
Futhermore, the school also needs help training their teachers on how to use the equipment. I'll try and visit the school when I am in Pakistan or find someone who can visit for a day and help them out.
I am also going to discuss with Nuzhat the possibility of having the lab open to other schools to access after hours (increasing the impact of our investment).
Please let me know your thoughts on the equipment expenditure.
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Mubarik Imam
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:37 am
Post subject: Updates on Nilore Project
Just thought I'd consolidate all the updates for Nilore.
Project Details
- Nilore is waiting to hear from AKU. AKU is supposed to send Nilore a letter detailing what they need to improve prior to affiliation.
- School registration is in process. Deadline April 15th.
- Teachers are being interviewed for senior classes
- Junior classes are going to be taught by the current teachers.
- Ibtida was actively in search for someone to train their teachers in experiments.Waqas Mansoor, has kindly volunteered and has extensive experience in science practicals. He will also help the school in the procurement of the equipment. Waqas is an Electrical Engineer, while in high school he was selected for Pakistan's National Physics Talent Competition.
- Major equipment for lab will be bought in the summer.
- Minor equipment bought. (Thank you to Rumi Chunara for helping consolidate the equipment lists).
- Intel is doing teacher training for using computers as a teaching tool in August.
-$780 were raised through the webpage. A big thank you to Tarim and Natalia for putting the Nilore webpage together.
-The first check will be mailed to Ibtidia for $1500.
-Donations are still being accepted to help raise $1400 for the second phase of the funding due July 2006.
Continuing Volunteer Opportunities
- Help run a science camp at Nilore
- Identify experiments that can be done to promote science education
- Do a site-visit to examine the impact of the science and computer labs at Nilore
Please let me know if you have any questions or suggestions.
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Mubarik Imam
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:41 am
Post subject: Excerpts from Nuzhat's e-mail to Waqas
FYI for those who are interested in learning more about the project:
"Here is the current scenario. The school is following a Govt curriculum. As is common in Govt schools, the kids are encouraged to learn concepts by rote. There is absolutely no concept of conceptual thinking. In addition, kids are exposed to practicals only in 9th and 10th (if at all). What we want to do is expose these kids to practical science from class 5th onwards. I have explained this to the teachers, and they are willining to learn, but are unable to take that important step of breaking the mental barrier without help. THey are very willing to learn though (it is very heartening). So, in essence we will need to train the teachers for the younger classes as well. I have gone through the curriculum in detail, and I am attaching the basic concepts they are supposed to know. We have to work through these experiments with the teachers so that they become adept at teaching them.
- The major equipment that we have obtained quotes for is basically for class 9th and 10th. We were planning on getting the major equipment in the summer, but can get it earlier if you want.
- We can identify 2-3 teachers and train them in a spectrum of experiments. Frankly, Waqas, whatever you help us with will be a tremendous help. I can promise you that you will not be disappointed with the teachers and kids enthusiasm.
- Let me know what kind of a time commitment or workshop you are looking to do.
- The school is 25 km outside Islamabad, on Lehtrar Road, 5 minutes from Pinstech. When I am in Islamabad, I go there everymorning, and come back in the afternoon. It takes me 30- 35 minutes each way.
- I will call you. What is the best time for you?
Thanks so much
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Mubarik Imam
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:12 am
Post subject: Site visit update from Waqas
Waqas has been trying to get access to the forums but has been unable to submit posts. I'm pasting his e-mail below.
Teacher: Mr. Siddique (MSc in Geology) will be teaching Physics. Nilore doesn't have a dedicated science teacher yet.
Equipment: based on my conversation with Waqas it seems that the school is going to buy the equipment in August. Will confirm this with Nuzhat and check the status on the AKU affiliation.
Infrastructure: currently the school is thinking of adding an additional level as they are constrained for space.
Hello Mubarik,
I went to the School and met Nuzhat there.
Now for class 9th, there are 2 options for science.
1. Physics, Chemistry, Biology
2. Physics, Chemistry and Computer Science
Personally I would recommend, that we should give option to each student about his/her choice of subjects and run two parallel groups.
To run the science labs effectively, we need to focus on subject specialist teachers for all the science subjects, who can teach both theory and practicals easily. Also , I would strongly recommend to upgrade the medium of instruction to English language for class 9th. All the science subjects should be in English. This will not be easy. But it is necessary.
For class 9th and 10th, there is a list of practicals, recommended by each board.
I dont know about Agha Khan board, but that list is really very simple. From board examination point of view, practicals carry minor weightage and the whole system is full of flaws. (Total 75 marks for 3 practicals, and u will get between 50 and 60, irrespective of the quality of practicals you have done and your preparation etc).
Now there is a problem of space as the lab room is really quite small.
If the wooden partition between the computer lab and the science lab is removed, w can create some space. A group doing Bio practical and another group doing Comp practical.
Mubarik, give me an idea for some activity.
Like a game to find any country on world map in 1 minute?? Good for increasing general awareness and inculcating map reading skills.
Anyways, will share the progress with you,
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Waqas Mansoor
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 2:40 am
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Current scenario:
School is going through Exam Season.
The annual exam will end on 28th May.
From 4th June onwards, the Summer Camps will start.
We plan to procure the Lab equipment, and set up the lab during the Summer Camps.
I ll help the school in procuring, setting up and hiring of science teacher.
Plus I plan to use the lab for carrying out science activities.
I need your suggestions, for the activities.
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Mubarik Imam
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:33 am
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Thanks Waqas! Are you interested in doing stimulating activities like for the summer camp or typical practicals? Here are some suggestions:
. Model Rockets
. Cow Eye Dissection
. Hot-Air Balloon demonstrations (for younger kids)
. Separating Mixtures
. Growing Crystals
Here's a list of other science experiments:
Another great resource for teaching fun experiments is:
I particulary enjoyed Soda Bottle Rockets and Bending Light.
Let me know if you need links to more traditional experiments.
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Waqas Mansoor
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:13 am
Post subject: PHYSICS LECTURE AT SCHOOL
Thanks Mubarik for all these ideas.
Actually I went to school today and conducted a lecture on Physics. The audience was class 8th students and Maths teacher, Miss Irum. Siddique was the principal and he was also at the lecture. The purpose was to give very basic concepts to the students and create an interest among the students. The lecture was given on the white board with the aid of presentation. The presentation is attached.
I really enjoyed the whole session.
About Lab:
The school could not get approval from either Agha Khan or Federal Board. So students will sit in mwtric exams as private candidates. For this they have to get affiliated with some government school for lab practicals. The condition of govt schools is that, on paper they all have science labs. But actually students are never taken to the lab as the condition of most of the labs is very poor. But they all get good marks in practical exams because practical examiner is also from Govt Schools.
But we dont want this for Nilore school. We shall establish a lab and all the students will do all the practicals. As far as Practical exams are concerned, the pricipal of local Govt School is friend of Siddique. So he will make sure that all the neccessary paper work is done.
They haven't hired any science teacher yet. Good science teachers are very rare in that area and teachers from Islamabad won't go there because of distance and travelling involved.
I am in contact with Siddique and we are finalising the list of equipment.
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REBECK: Yeah, there is a lot more coming too.
SIMON: And this rivalry - forgive a couple of inosteo(ph) cliches - but between a real Broadway baby and a corn-fed wide-eyed girl from Iowa, who are both competing for the lead role. The blonde and the brunette. Let's listen to a duet they sing as they head into the callback auditions.
MEGAN HILTY AND KATHARINE MCPHEE: (Singing) I'll just have to forget the hurt and pain before, forget what used to be. The past is on the cutting room floor. The future is here with me. Choose me...
SIMON: Oh, my gosh. My heart is racing.
REBECK: Good song.
SIMON: Do you have any concern that - and I say this as a fan of Broadway - to some people, as I don't have to tell you, they would do anything to avoid a Broadway musical.
REBECK: What? What are you saying?
SIMON: Well, it's a little bit...you know, it's like how many times have they tried to make a television series out of baseball, and the fact is millions of people like watching baseball. They just don't necessarily watching TV series about baseball.
REBECK: Well, probably the right series hasn't been made yet. You know, there's a lot of truisms that get told in televisionland. And, you know, everybody said you couldn't do a musical on television until "Glee" did it. You know, I've lived and worked in the theater my whole life and I know a lot of theater people and we're actually pretty interesting tribe. We're like curious and funny and passionate people. And I think that theater really is universal in a lot of ways and that certainly the yearning of the human spirit to go after a specific dream is something that we all feel. You know, whether it's your dream to be a star on Broadway or your dream to be a baseball player or your dream to write a novel and, you know, everybody's got something they dream about. And this is a show about people who have tossed caution to the wind and threaten to ruin their lives in pursuit of their specific dream, which is rather beautiful. You know, I think theater, especially musical theater, it opens your heart with joy at its best.
SIMON: I used the word sentimental in the introduction. Do you think of this show as sentimental?
REBECK: Not at all. I was going to take exception to that, Scott. I think that, you know what, TV can be sentimental; movies can be sentimental; novels can be sentimental. And, yes, can musicals be sentimental? Yes, they can. But I wouldn't brand the form as such. I think that it's really one of the great American art forms, you know. And, you know, there's extraordinary grace and joy to be found in the American musical, in the good ones.
SIMON: One of my favorite scenes is when the actor playing a lead songwriter, Christian Borle, is talking to his partner about why he doesn't want to work with the director, who's not the nice man.
CHRISTIAN BORLE: (as Tom) He would have had to have a complete personality change as well as a sex change for me to even consider him.
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: (as character) Well...
BORLE: But don't well. Oh, don't even well. Well, well, what?
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Well, he's really talented, Tom.
BORLE: You know what, a lot of people are talented. We are in an industry which is lousy with talent. Is it too much to ask for kindness too? Am I a crazy person because I still expect people to be if not lovely at least civil in this terrible business?
SIMON: And what is there that is so distinctive? Because, you know, you've written for television shows I gather - "NYPD Blue," which certainly was a big success and one of the incarnations of "Law and Order." What is there that is so distinctive and irreplaceable about writing for the stage, and especially Broadway?
REBECK: Well, I find it unimaginably beautiful to see language and humanity and lights and sound and all come together in this moment of storytelling, which is so potently, in relationship to the audience, the presence of the audience. And I do think that if the task of artists who create community - which I believe it is - then theater does it in such an immediate and electrifying way for me. And I like listening to lots of people laugh at once, at one of my jokes.
REBECK: I do. I know. I like communal joy. I think that, in many ways, theater is a lesson in empathy, that when theater works at its best your heart is moved by the trials or joy of somebody acting a story out for you on the other side of the stage lights. And then sometimes I think, well, that's just, it's in my DNA. It's where I was born, you know.
SIMON: Actually, I was given to understand you were born in Cincinnati.
REBECK: Yeah, I was. They don't know how I got there, seriously. When I said I wanted to be a playwright, I thought my mother was going to have a heart attack. I mean, it was a pretty unusual think to want in Cincinnati.
SIMON: Ms. Rebeck, thanks so much. Good luck to you.
REBECK: Thank you.
SIMON: Theresa Rebeck, creator and executive producer of "Smash" speaking from New York. And you can find a streaming link to the first episode of "Smash" on NPR.org. This is WEEKEND EDITION from NPR News. I'm Scott Simon. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.


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The tablet was dropped several times, which left parts exposed. Chips of glass flaked off every time I touched the iPad.
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SURF CITY � Surf City continues to take additional measures to filter impurities from the town�s drinking water after state lab tests last year revealed that samples contained higher-than-acceptable contaminant levels.
SURF CITY � Surf City continues to take additional measures to filter impurities from the town�s drinking water after state lab tests last year revealed that samples contained higher-than-acceptable contaminant levels.
The town received notice in October that water samples collected by the state in February and May exceeded the maximum levels of haloacetic acids and trihalomethanes. The town issued a public notice about the problem Dec. 4.
Though officials say the contaminants pose no immediate health risk, the time lag between when the water samples were collected and when the violation was announced is disconcerting to Nancy Wheeler, who manages a mobile home park in Surf City.
�I understand these levels are not considered dangerous, but what if it had been higher levels?� she said. �It doesn�t give you a comforting feeling ... I�m concerned on a bunch of different levels.�
Jane Kirk, interim town manager and finance director, said she did not know why there was a lapse between the time the town received results from the state and property owners were notified of the contaminant levels. The town�s public works director is on vacation this week.
Haloacetic acid and trihalomethanes form when chlorine, which is used as a disinfectant, reacts with other organic compounds.
Neither poses an immediate risk, according to the state, but some people who drink water containing either of those chemicals in excess of the maximum level over many years could have problems with their liver, kidneys or central nervous system, according to the public notice the town issued Dec. 4. Prolonged exposure may also increase the risk of cancer.
Compliance with drinking water standards pertaining to disinfection byproducts is calculated on a quarterly basis through the year, according to a statement from the N.C. Department of Environment and Natural Resources.
The maximum level violation for haloacetic acids was cited for the first and second quarters of 2013 and the violation for trihalomethanes was cited for the second quarter of 2013, according to a DENR spokesperson. First-quarter samples, those gathered from Jan. 1-March 31 last year, were collected Feb. 15. Samples taken April 1 through June 30 in the second quarter were collected May 13.
Public water systems are responsible for monitoring their own drinking water.
�Monitoring requirements for each contaminant group are based on several factors such as the type of public water system, their source of water and system population,� according to DENR. �Once the water samples are collected, the samples are required to be analyzed by a N.C.-certified lab. The laboratory is then required to submit the sample results to the Public Water Supply Section within the first ten days following the month in which the analyses are completed or the first ten days following the end of the required monitoring period, which(ever) of these timeframes is shorter.�
As soon as the town received the violation notice, water lines were flushed and water in the town�s treatment plant underwent a process known as back flushing for a week, Kirk said.
Back flushing is a process where water flow is reversed through sand to force contaminants to the surface where they can be removed. That process is being conducted once a week at Surf City�s water treatment facility now, Kirk said. The town also continues to flush water lines.
The town is also replacing solar panels with electric power to run stirrers in two water tanks.
�We found out after we got the violation that they were not working because they were not getting enough sun,� Kirk said. �Now we�re spending the money to have both of them wired to electricity.�


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By world standards, Melbourne is a young city. But it has layers of history. Here you can discover some of them. Bluestone and concrete, paint and neon, Victorian-ornate and sheet-glass all cram into the cross-hatched canyons that are Melbourne's streets and lanes.
The city continues to grow—for information about Melbourne today, visit http://museumvictoria.com.au/melbournemuseum/ and www.thatsmelbourne.com.au


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TEMPer Temperature Sensor Linux Driver
TEMPer USB Thermometer interface driver and utility.
The temper binary outputs temperatures as measured by the USB thermometer.
The code has been patched to work with the newest versions of the USB stick
with code corrections from the comments section of the homepage. Also
implemented changes for greater ease of parsing with standard tools (awk
Maintained by: Pierre Cazenave
Keywords: thermometer,temper,pcsensor,temperature
ChangeLog: temper
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Join WLWT in the 2013 March for Babies
Join WLWT in the 2013 March for Babies
You can use your feet to help premature babies. WLWT News 5 has partnered again with the March of Dimes' annual March for Babies walk.
Get your team together and take part in one of two marches this year in the Tri-state.
The first walk will be on Saturday, April 27 at Miami Meadows Park in Miami Township. The second will be on Sunday, April 28 at Paul Brown Stadium in Cincinnati.
Your participation helps March of Dimes save America's premature babies.
To register your team, click here.
If you would like to join Cincinnati Bengals' Domata Peko's team, you can register here.
The March for Babies is sponsored by Mercy Health, Meridian Bioscience Inc., Citi, UAW, Ford, Pampers and WLWT News 5.


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Today we are going to assemble the Quilt Block Top for your hotpad.
In the last lesson you learned to make my Boston Blocks.
Now you need to cut the plain blocks:
1 med 2 1/2" square
4 light 2 1/2" squares
Here is the layout for the Boston Star Quilt Block:
You can sew them into rows and then sew the rows together if you like.
But I like to sew them into sets of 2 and then assemble the sections.
My unfinished quilt block is 6 1/2"
When I sew seams together I like to use a tack.
This is just a stitch across where the seams meet.
I think it is more secure than pins.
When you have your quilt block assembled
You can stop there if you like the size or
You can add borders to make the quilt block larger and
to give it a finished look.
I cut my borders abit larger than I think I need.
Then I cut down to the size I want.
I use a 6 1/2" quilt block and then I add
borders to get to 8 1/2" unfinished size.
Here are some ideas for quilt blocks using my Boston Block shortcut.
I usually design using 6 blocks across by 6 rows or 36 blocks.
To get the 6 1/2" size I use a 1 1/2" template.
If you like the designs but don't want to use a 1 1/2" template you can
use a 2 1/2" template and make the quilt blocks 12 1/2" for a quilt. Or
use them to make a tote bag or pillow etc.
You can use any size template and make a larger quilt block if you like. It is all up to you!
This is one of my original designs
If you look at the layout this quilt block is made with Bostons and HSTs
Easy to do but looks complicated.
To see more of them check out this thread:
Rhonda's Sampler Quilt Along - Boston Blocks
You also can use the Boston Block to make some traditional quilt blocks.
Here is my version of a Card Trick quilt block made with my Bostons
Rhonda's Version of Card Trick Quilt Block
The cut down method allows you to make intricate looking quilt blocks with easy steps!!
Once you know the trick you can see it isn't hard to make at all. They just look hard!!
Hope you enjoy the process!! Rhonda


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I don't know how to access Skype in Ubuntu 11.10 because it gives me some error when I press the Skype icon on Unity launcher.
Here is a screenshot.
It's obvious that another instance of Skype is running but I don't know how to access it.
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NEW ORLEANS — Barely two months ago, Alex Smith stood alone under center as the NFL's hottest starting quarterback for one of its best teams.
One concussion later, he is lost in the crowd.
At the San Francisco 49ers' Super Bowl media day this week, the hardest thing about talking to Smith was finding Smith. While the team's stars spoke on stages set up on the Superdome field, Smith had no assigned spot and thus wandered through the media hordes on the sidelines, nearly invisible and seemingly irrelevant.
He was given no lights, no microphone, no chair, no team escort, no big bottle of Gatorade, no relief from crowding, bumping reporters who wanted to know how the former star who had led the 49ers to the precipice of greatness could stomach this new view as a scrub.
It was his lowest moment. It was his finest hour.
Benched for second-year player Colin Kaepernick even though he led the NFL in completion percentage at the time, demoted to a 49ers footnote even though he led this team to six wins in nine games, Smith stood in this pocket of humiliation and did what all great athletes are supposed to do, but almost never do.


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Pro bono service is the responsibility of all members of the legal profession. Suffolk University Law School's Pro Bono Program allows law students to begin that service now and encourages students to develop a lifelong commitment to pro bono work. By participating in the Pro Bono Program, students have the opportunity to give back to the community by helping underserved clients or groups and participating in work to improve the law, while also gaining practical experience and building a network of professional contacts.
Although law students are not yet members of the legal profession, we believe that the commitment to serve others should start at Suffolk Law. In furtherance of this principle, the Pro Bono Program challenges all incoming law students to complete at least 50 hours of law-related volunteer work before they graduate.
What Students Are Saying About Pro Bono at Suffolk Law
"I met a lot of great people. It was helpful to see the abstract principles I learned in school applied to the real world."
"When I applied to law school I knew that I wanted to help those who could not help themselves. Yet over the course of the first year, all one hears about is working for large companies and making a lot of money and applying to on campus interviews. I began to question my direction. My pro bono placement helped me regain the trust that I have in myself and my own personal desires in life. It really put into perspective the diverse needs for legal assistance and the opportunities outside of the corporate office."
"Real work, continuous work, great supervision, great atmosphere."
"Meaningful work, work that is of value to the community. Great networking opportunity."
Recognizing and Celebrating Pro Bono
All students who meet or exceed the 50 hour pro bono pledge goal before graduation will receive a "Pro Bono Honors" notation on their academic transcript. Students who complete 75 hours or more of pro bono work also receive recognition at commencement. Students who complete 100 hours or more of pro bono work are presented with a Pro Bono Certificate at commencement.
New York Bar Pro Bono Requirement
Current students planning to take the New York bar exam must complete 50 hours of pro bono service prior to being admitted. The specific internships, courses, and programs that qualify for pro bono through Suffolk University Law School and for the New York requirement are different. To find out exactly what pro bono work qualifies for the New York requirement, visit http://www.nycourts.gov/attorneys/probono/FAQsBarAdmission.pdf.
Suffolk's pro bono forms do not count towards the New York bar pro bono requirement. To meet the New York requirement, a supervisor must sign New York's affidavit, found here: http://www.nycourts.gov/attorneys/probono/AppForAdmission_Pro-BonoReq_Fillable.pdf. In order to ensure that pro bono work is properly recorded, a supervisor should sign the affidavit immediately after the student completes the 50 pro bono hours. Don't wait for two years and risk your supervisor leaving the organization or changing contact information.
This information is subject to change. Review New York's webpage very carefully for details. http://www.nycourts.gov/attorneys/probono/FAQsBarAdmission.pdf
Questions? Contact Sarah Bookbinder, Associate Director for Public Interest Advising and Pro Bono Programs.


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WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) -- Election Day has come and gone and Republican Rep. Allen West is still fighting for votes -- in the courtroom.
West, the freshman tea party-idol struggling for re-election in South Florida, found himself 2,456 votes behind Democratic rival Patrick Murphy in Tuesday's unofficial tally. Citing "disturbing irregularities" at the polls, his campaign was due in a West Palm Beach courtroom Friday on his request to impound ballots and voting machines in Palm Beach County, one of three counties in his congressional district.
"I'm not looking out for anyone to unlevel the playing field," West said Thursday on "Kilmeade and Friends" on Fox News Radio. "All I want to do is to be able to say, 'Here's an issue that we believe should be brought up to protect the constituents."'
While his seemed the most fractious, West's contest was among eight House races with margins too slender for The Associated Press to declare winners as mail-in and provisional votes were still being counted. Along with three races in California, two in Arizona and one each in North Carolina and Utah, the battle between West and Murphy was staggering ahead zombie-like, refusing to die.
"This is just dragging out an election that people are more than willing to have over," said Eric Johnson, a Murphy adviser.
In California, Rep. Dan Lungren, R-Calif., unofficially trails Democratic opponent Ami Bera by 184 votes out of 176,000 cast in the Sacramento area. He estimates around 100,000 absentee and provisional ballots remain to be tallied, and compared the ongoing count to watching a recorded football game.
"It's already been played," he said Thursday. "The votes have already been voted. There's nothing I can do at this point except to ensure that everything that goes on at this point is according to the law."
Most campaigns in races where votes are still being counted, including Lungren-Bera, send observers to watch local officials tally the ballots.
Ironically, Lungren chairs the House Administration Committee, which dispatches bipartisan observers to watch vote-counting in close races if requested by a candidate. The panel is also due to conduct freshman orientation meetings next week for newly elected lawmakers. Contenders in undecided races, including Bera, are routinely invited.
"I guess I'll be welcoming my opponent next week," Lungren said.
Of the eight uncalled races, Democrats led in all but one. Whatever the outcomes, Republicans will control the 435-member House next year with at least 233 seats, though their final margin will be below the 242 they held in the current Congress.
In South Florida, Murphy's campaign shrugged off West's legal action, noting that the margin in their race exceeded the half-percentage point threshold for a recount. The Democrat has already declared victory and was beginning a three-day "thank you" tour on Thursday on the assumption that he will take office in January.
Murphy said he planned to travel to Washington next week for freshman orientation.
"I'm going to leave it up to the lawyers and the judges and let them decide what happens from here," he said. "We're tired of the bickering, we're tired of the back and forth and we want to get to work. We want to put this election behind us."
West was still hoping that uncounted absentee and provisional ballots could narrow his gap. His campaign said he also was planning legal action in St. Lucie County, though the court clerk's office said it had not yet been filed. No such request was made in Martin County.
The California race between Lungren and Bera had the closest margin of the eight undeclared contests.
"We knew we were in a tight race and we were prepared for this," said Josh Wolf, Bera's campaign manager. Still, he said: "It certainly isn't easy."
In the other remaining California races, Republican Rep. Brian Bilbray was 685 votes behind Democrat Scott Peters in the San Diego area in what was one of the most expensive House races. GOP Rep. Mary Bono Mack, first elected in 1998, was trailing Democrat Raul Ruiz by 4,557 votes in the communities around Palm Springs, where there are growing numbers of Hispanics.
There were many close races in California after its 53 congressional districts were redrawn by a bipartisan commission, which put new voters into many incumbents' districts, increasing competition.
Final tallies in each of the three remaining California races could take two weeks.
In Utah, six-term Democratic Rep. Jim Matheson, a perennial GOP target, was leading by 2,646 votes over Mia Love, considered a rising Republican star. Matheson declared victory on election night and Love, who would be the first female black Republican in the House, conceded.
But, with thousands of provisional and absentee ballots still to be counted, a winner has yet to be declared. Local election officials won't have a final tally until Nov. 20 but have said they doubt the extra ballots will change the outcome because many are from Salt Lake County, where she did not do strongly.
Utah Republican Party political director Ivan DuBois declined to say if Love was still hopeful, saying: "We want to make sure every vote is counted."
In Arizona, Democratic Rep. Ron Barber of Arizona, who replaced Rep. Gabrielle Giffords after a gunman shot her in the head nearly two years ago, trailed Republican Martha McSally, a former Air Force combat pilot in Iraq, by 426 votes in the Tucson area.
And Democrat Kyrsten Sinema led Republican Vernon Parker by 2,715 votes in a new seat east of Phoenix.
It could take several days for final vote counts in both districts. According to estimates, up to 50,000 ballots must be counted in the Sinema-Parker race, and perhaps half that many in the Barber-McSally contest. Recounts are possible in both.
A North Carolina race so far has Democratic Rep. Mike McIntyre 533 votes ahead of GOP rival David Rouzer, a state senator. It will likely take officials until later this month to tally remaining provisional and mail-in ballots, said Gary Bartlett, executive director of the state's Board of Elections.
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|January 15, 2013, 09:51 AM
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I'm looking to buy my first rifle bigger than a 17hmr. The things that i want it for are mainly just to go plinking around....target shooting, prairie dog hunting, just having fun. So i would like something affordable to shoot a lot(probably will not be reloading ammo). However I don't want to have something completely useless at hunting things on the smaller end (deer, antelope etc.) until i will eventually probably get a .30-06. I was reccomended a bolt action .223 because it's cheap to shoot and the general consensus is I could take something down with a decently placed shot. I still would like to hear opinions though.
*Yes I am aware of the ammo shortages but it doesn't seem to be a terrible problem here.
*If hunting I wouldn't need to shoot anything passed 200 yards
any advice you fine gentlemen have got would be appreciated
|January 15, 2013, 10:12 AM
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my first rifle was a 243. if I only had only one rifle it would still be my choice. I don't live in grizz or elk territory though. bobn
|January 15, 2013, 10:18 AM
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thanks for the advice bobn
forgot to mention one thing, if you would say something else is better can you guys please say why you prefer one over the other, I don't have much experience with guns and I'd just like to know why one is better than the other
|January 15, 2013, 11:47 AM
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maybe a lever gun in 30-30?
Nice recoil, can reach out to 200, and cheaper than the bigger 30 cals?
|January 15, 2013, 01:56 PM
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I would not go with a .30-30 for prairie dog hunting. Even out to 200 yards, the round has quite the sloped trajectory.
I would recommend a bolt-action .223. It is a great prairie dog rifle, it is fun to shoot, it (used to be) easy to find (formerly cheap) ammo, and with the right ammo (Barnes TSX, Nosler Partition) it is also capable of taking deer sized game.
|January 15, 2013, 06:31 PM
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The .223 being notably cheaper is kinda a myth unless you are willing to feed it poor performing ammo. When it comes to hunting grade ammo it's not much if any cheaper than the other .224 caliber centerfires. Personally when it comes to .224 centerfires my favorite is the .22-250.
You'll find all sorts of arguments about the ethics of using .224 centerfires on deer. Some will even argue against the 6mm's for that matter. I'd just as soon not visit all that again so I'll just say for varmints, predators and deer I'll take a .243. As a matter of fact after handfuls of centerfires the one bolt action I currently have is in that cartridge.
You don't mention where you live but I'll agree with all the post, both for and against, concerning the .30-30. It's far from a great prairie dog gun but a good .30-30 lever gun will kill anything in the lower 48 and has a big fun factor at the range.
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|January 15, 2013, 06:37 PM
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.243 would be a good choice if you want to shoot deer. If not, .223 or 22-250.
|January 15, 2013, 06:47 PM
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.17 Hornet
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I would go with the .243 if you plan to hunt something larger than a prairie dog. All of the suggestions before are better for smaller game although all of them other than the .17 hornet are deer legal in my state. The .22-250 will shoot like a laser beam out past 250 yards although all of them will shoot level enough out to your 200 yard requirement. The .22-250 will tear prairie dogs into pieces.
|January 15, 2013, 11:37 PM
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I prefer the 243 for what you are asking about. Here are my reasons why.
My state has a min caliber for all big game (243/6 mm). Check your state's regulations before purchasing.
I can get factory ammo with 54 gr varmint bullets at close to 4,000 fps.
I can get factory 100 gr big game bullets.
I can handload anything from 54 gr to 105 gr at a very reasonable price.
The bullets for 243 are heavier than 224 and buck the wind better on long shots.
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|January 22, 2013, 04:32 PM
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hey all thanks for the ideas, i ended up getting a .243 Tikka T3 lite stainless, i've only had the chance to break it in and haven't even sighted it yet, but oh boy does it feel great!
|January 22, 2013, 04:49 PM
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As these fine gentlemen stated first, the .243 winchester is a dreamboat I think. It's good for deer and antelope, coyotes and whistlepigs, and wild hogs, crows, targets,,,,,, etc.
And long range??? Check out Dan Newberry's OCW website! He runs a school for long range shooting and they do a lot of it with the .243!!
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|January 22, 2013, 04:59 PM
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.243 Win hands down. You can find loads from 55grn to 100grn easily and do everything you want with it. Recoil is minimal, trajectory is flat, accuracy is usually superb. Hands down a great varmint round to medium sized thin skinned game like whitetail deer.
|January 22, 2013, 06:45 PM
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+1 on the .243.
It is a nice cartridge; relatively flat shooting and big enough to take medium game. You also have a wide selection of rifles chambered for it.
When I go to look at the bare shelves it is also one of the cartridges that seems to show up in stock more than others also.
|January 24, 2013, 10:51 AM
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differences in grain
so now that i have this .243 and i go to buy rounds for it. there are all kinds of different grain measurements like you guys are saying, possibly a huge beginner question but why wouldn't you just want the highest grain to make it go the fastest, as long as kick isn't an issue?
|January 24, 2013, 11:15 AM
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Typically, the lighter factory rounds you will find are varmint rounds and should not be used on medium-large game. The heavier rounds will be constructed to hold together better and are better suited to deer sized game.
For just target shooting, use different types and see what your gun likes, but remember, contrary to what you are currently thinking, faster is not always better (and rarely is it 'best').
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|January 24, 2013, 11:54 AM
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You picked a super rifle and caliber! The Tikka T3 is going to be a tackhammer!
|January 24, 2013, 12:00 PM
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If long range isn't a consern what a bout a C-Z carbine in 7.62x39 , Cheap to shoot and can take deer and hogs . 223 may not be legal for deer in your state . 243 is getting pricey as all ammo is going up .
|January 24, 2013, 04:27 PM
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ha, so i guess it really was a rookie question. and thanks for the endorsement warbird. so is the bullet grain just a personal preference for shooting, not hunting since you mentioned using a bigger grain, but just target shooting?
|January 24, 2013, 04:41 PM
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But not your preference, it is your gun's preference. Which round does it shoot better? You can only find that out by testing different rounds.
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|January 24, 2013, 05:14 PM
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Lighter weight .243 bullets are normally constructed to work best on stuff up to Coyote size. The heavier weight bullets are normally constructed for deer and antelope sized game. Look on the ammunition manufacturer's websites for what their recommended uses are. There are always exceptions to general rules.
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|January 28, 2013, 10:25 AM
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so what grain sizes are good for which game?
for example the boxes i got were 100 grain, which would work best for what?
|January 28, 2013, 10:33 AM
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100gr in 243 is meant for deer and similar, unless its specifically a target bullet.
If you're buying commercial ammo, you'll need to stick to probably close to that to get a big game bullet.
If you "roll your own", there are big ge bullets down to 80gr (Barnes TSX) that are phenomenal. They're available in factory ammo too but have a defibrillator nearby before you look at the price.
For shooting varmints, find something light and fast... 55gr or so. Heavier bullets work fine and buck the wind better at long range but 200 yards isnt long range. I like light/fast.
|January 28, 2013, 10:44 AM
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I would recommend the 257 Roberts, does everything you are looking for. If you reloaded and if you could find a rifle in 6mm Remington, I would also suggest that.
I love my 6.5 Creedmoor, but it is somewhat of an over kill for varmint hunting.
Sorry, just realized you had made your choice.
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Hill charged Beiting and dove horizontally to block the shot attempt away. For the game, Hill actually enjoyed a pair of important saves. However, her shutout bid was spoiled with just 5:29 left in the match, as a high shot by
Despite the late goal, Henson was pleased with Hill's in-goal debut, especially when Hill knocked away a final
"For her first collegiate game as a goalkeeper I think she did well," Henson said. "She was nervous as I think anyone would be, but I expect her confidence to just continue to grow."
Saturday's scrimmage was the Lady Bucs lone preseason exhibition game, as the team will open regular season play Friday, Aug. 26 at UNC Asheville. The Lady Bucs will open their home schedule on Sept. 9 against Radford.