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As if finding out that you have cancer isn't hard enough, imagine if on top of that news you learn that you might not be able to have a baby. About 63,000 women under age 45 will be diagnosed with cancer this year, according to Fertile Hope, a nonprofit organization that provides fertility resources to women with cancer. And while recent research has shown that becoming pregnant after cancer doesn't cause recurrences, or health problems in children, many survivors struggle with fertility complications—and all have to wrestle with the idea of that, at some point, the cancer could return. "A woman has to acknowledge the reality that she could die. She and her partner have to weigh the risk of recurrence and address the possibility that her child could be raised without her," says Charles L. Shapiro, M.D., director of breast medical oncology for the Arthur Jean James Cancer Hospital in Columbus, Ohio. "It's a very personal decision."
Many women also have to face the judgment of others, who question their choice to have a child when their future isn't guaranteed. "Having cancer is not a crime," says Douglas Moss, M.D., an ob-gyn at Mt. Siani Hospital in New York City. "These women have had a bad break and they deserve to have an opportunity to make the choice to become parents."
We spoke with remarkable survivors about their struggles with cancer and how they beat the odds to have a baby. Here are their stories.
Jennifer Rand, 32, is a kindergarten teacher from Long Island, New York. Her husband, Ricky, 34, is a customer representative for the local electric company. Their daughter, Faith, was born five months ago.
You know it's not good when you're sitting on a table after a medical test and they say, 'Did you come with anybody?' I was 29 years old and the diagnosis was colorectal cancer.
We were trying to get pregnant at the time, so right away I asked about having children. Because the doctors weren't sure if I'd need chemotherapy after surgery—which can lead to infertility—my husband Ricky and I went to a clinic to look into egg freezing, and were told he had a low sperm count. We were concerned, but had so much else on our minds, we just thought, okay, we'll deal with that later.
As it turned out, my cancer was stage 1 and I didn't need either chemo or radiation, but I had to have a massive colon and rectal resection. Two top surgeons on Long Island refused to do the operation because they said it was too risky and I'd end up with a permanent colostomy bag. I didn't want that at 29! I found Dr. Michael Harris at Mt. Sinai Hospital in New York City, who was wonderful.
The recovery was hard, but my husband was amazing. When we first found out, he was devastated of course, but then he and my sisters just rallied. They became so informed—I think they knew more than some of the doctors. Ricky had a backpack with a sticker that said "Project Hope" and held all of my scans and medical information. He stayed with me on a cot in my hospital room for eight days. Since he knows I'm into my hair and makeup being just so, he would wash my hair every day. An orderly showed him how to slide the bed up, hang my head over the edge, and use a bucket to wash it. He bought me cute pajamas and matching robes. My doctor said I looked so good he wanted to wheel me around to show his other patients!
Ricky and I were told to wait two years after the surgery before trying to have a baby because I needed time to heal. In a situation like this, you have to be positive. A little less than two years later—we were anxious—we started trying. When nothing happened, we remembered about that low sperm count and Ricky visited a urologist for a routine procedure. While Ricky was recovering in the other room, the doctor told me, "I felt a mass." I was sitting there alone, stunned. They removed the testicle with the cancer mass and took tissue samples from the other, which had precancerous cells. Most men have between 20 and 150 million sperm at any given time—they found only one viable sperm.
Learning that Ricky had testicular cancer was horrible. My husband and I had been together 12 years—we dated a long time before we got married—and in all those years we dreamed of the house and the family. It was totally crushing, not just crushing for him to have cancer, but to be told you can't have children either.
We had one shot to try to conceive with that single sperm because he needed to start radiation soon. We planned to have my eggs retrieved, fertilized and then implanted, so specialists recommended we also purchase donor sperm. Well, when we got to the fertility place for the procedure, the delivery service had lost the donor sperm! I was boosted up on injections and this was it, so the doctor said, "Let's see what we find in Ricky."
I look back on it and it was funny, actually. Ricky and I called it "Project Nemo," after the Disney movie Finding Nemo. I'm lying on a gurney and my husband is doped up on anesthesia and we hear the staff calling to one another. "We have three sperm!" "We have ten eggs!" "We have six sperm...eight...ten!" "Okay, we have ten eggs and ten sperm, let's go!" Three of those made it and were implanted, and out of those three, I got my daughter Faith.
All of our family and friends were really eager for Faith to be born, and everyone is in love. It is so nice to be able to care for my own child—it's unbelievable. I look at her each day and I can't believe she's here after everything. Her dad is doing great and he's ecstatic—he loves his little girl.
Heather Pick, 35, is a news anchor in Columbus, Ohio. She and her husband, Joe Cygan, 33, a graphic animation artist, have two children: Julia, 4, and Jack, 15 months.
I was 28, I had only been married a few months, and my husband Joe and I had just bought a house, when all of a sudden I began feeling really tired. As a TV journalist and evening news anchor, I was used to long hours and a hectic schedule, but this was different. Everything I did made me tired. I would exercise, which usually picks me up and gives me energy, but afterward, instead of feeling better, I'd be exhausted. I knew something was wrong.
Although I was so young, I actually was worried that I might have breast cancer because my grandmother had it. Later I learned that many elderly women get breast cancer and it doesn't affect a relative's risk. But I'm glad I didn't know that, because I started doing self breast exams and found a lump.
My first thought when I was diagnosed was "I always wanted to be a mom." I'd been warned about the risks of infertility, but obviously we had to get through the therapies that would save my life first. My husband and I decided that if we couldn't have children, we'd be happy to adopt.
Although I had four cycles of chemotherapy and five rounds of radiation, my periods came back fairly regularly. My cancer was estrogen receptor positive, so I started on tamoxifen. But I was diagnosed as a stage 1 and my chance of getting cancer again was so low that my husband and I decided to try to have children, rather than wait through five years of treatment. I went off the tamoxifen and Julia was born on September 19, 2001. We had our son, Jack, on June 24, 2004. It was what I'd always wanted, to have children and to watch them grow up. My pregnancies were so easy, my deliveries were so easy, and everyone was healthy.
Five months after Jack was born, I went in for a five-year post-cancer checkup, and the doctor was stern with me. He told me I really needed to have some scans done. When I did, they found the cancer had metastasized to my bones. What I couldn't wrap my mind around was how sneaky this disease is. I'd only been stage 1, with two small tumors with precancerous cells. I started tamoxifen again; and at first it seemed to be working, but then my tumor markers began going back up. I'm on a hormone therapy now and we're in kind of a waiting game. If the doctors see an immediate danger, they'll throw me back on chemo.
I don't know if it's harder knowing or not knowing whether you are going to survive. For me the biggest priority is not letting it get the best of me. I don't regret our decision to have children for a second. That's what keeps me positive and keeps me fighting. I work mornings, so we have the afternoons together, and I sit there and lick up every moment. I want them to remember me. I want to be with them when they graduate from high school. I keep a journal to tell them about themselves and a little bit about what their Dad and I are dealing with. I give a lot of credit to my husband; he's amazingly supportive and has been my rock.
I've had several beautiful years and I was able to become a mom. I don't want to leave yet, but I feel pretty blessed.
Stefanie Spielman, 38, is a stay-at-home mom who volunteers for the Stefanie Spielman Fund for Breast Cancer Research, which she started with her husband, Chris, 39, a former pro football player. They have four children: Madison, 11; Noah, 9; Macy, 4; and Audrey Grace, 3.
About seven years ago, when Chris was playing for the Buffalo Bills, I miscarried our third child. At the same time, I found a lump in my breast, so while I was being examined after the miscarriage, I said, "Would you mind looking at this?" The mammogram showed DCIS, ductal carcinoma in situ, a non-invasive early stage cancer. It was hard to believe because I ate organic food, I stayed in shape—I had to, I was married to a jock!—and I had no family history of breast cancer. Because of the size of the lump I needed a mastectomy.
When I was diagnosed, Chris quit football for a year and stayed home, took care of the kids, and learned how to cook and do laundry. He was my nurse and Mr. Mom. I had to have chemotherapy, but after that I thought our life would roll forward. We weren't going to let cancer stop us from having the life we wanted.
When I became pregnant again, I wasn't considered high risk. It was almost strange how normal it was. I loved being normal! It was empowering. But during the pregnancy I developed a cough. Seven weeks after having our third child, Macy, I learned the cancer had returned to my lungs. It was an aggressive form, so I was put on six months of chemo plus a new "wonder drug," Herceptin, which is an antibody therapy to prevent tumor growth. A month after dropping chemo, I had my period, the next month I didn't. I thought my system was going wacky. A couple of months later, I felt a strangeness in my abdomen. I thought I had ovarian cancer, but instead I was already four months pregnant.
No one had ever been pregnant on Herceptin as far as we know, and in my stage of disease, it was not the time for me to be having another baby. But we got a scan done and we prayed a lot. We really believed it was God's plan for us to have our fourth child. I stayed on the medicine. It was a decision that was very difficult, but I had three kids at home who needed me. I was scared to death, but I just really believed it was out of my hands and so much bigger than me, and I trusted in that, truly.
Audrey Grace came two months early, but she is perfect in every way. I had to take steroids to develop her lungs and she was only four pounds. I usually have these big babies -- the third weighed nine pounds. When she came out we knew she was going to be small, but she looked so normal. That was a good sign for us. I was happy on so many levels. Happy that she was healthy, happy that it was over, and happy we had had the faith to go through with it all. And happy to have a complete family.
Last year there was a little growth in the same spot in my lungs, so I went through eight months of chemo again. I've been off since May and life is good now. I couldn't wait to have the summer with my kids—I wanted to enjoy every day in the sun.
My father died of cancer when I was 20 and my sister was 15, so I know what it's like growing up without a parent because of a disease. There is a fear there for me every day—it's a huge reality. But I also know this can give my kids the ability to face adversity head on, the will to survive, and a trust in God and the plan he has for you. As a kid, I saw my dad, a physician, fight a good fight and love his family. When I was diagnosed, I wanted to turn this bad situation into good, and make it not so scary for my kids.
I can't believe this is my life, because it's shocking. I have an angel child and a miracle baby. I call Macy, who's 4, my angel child because without her being in my stomach and pushing on my lungs, I would never have known that my cancer had returned. And Audrey Grace, who just turned 3, is my miracle.
I'm looking forward to staying healthy so I can just watch my kids grow. Right now I live in very short intervals. I feel like I can't look five years down the road, but I can look three months down the road.
Dina Melendez, 38, an at-home mom and part-time dog groomer from Buckingham, PA, is married to Michael Melendez, 42, a state horse racing official, and mother of Nicole, 12, and Matthew, 4.
It was a Friday night in October. I was getting in the shower when I ran my hand across my breast. I felt a pea-sized lump. Right away my heart sank. I had a very bad feeling about it. I was 28 years old and my daughter, Nicole, had just turned 2. Monday morning I went in for an exam even thought I'd just been there a month prior and they'd found nothing. The doctor said, "You're too young for breast cancer. If the lump doesn't dissipate in a month, get a mammogram." Well, I didn't wait. Right away, I got a mammogram, a sonogram and a biopsy. And it turned out to be malignant.
I couldn't believe this was happening to me at age 28. Young women weren't supposed to get breast cancer! And we had so many stresses in our life, so many new things, so many great things: We were raising a toddler, we were deciding on when to have our second child, we were trying to buy a townhouse, I was just beginning my dog grooming career. And now this.
I didn't discuss fertility right away with my doctors. I was so overwhelmed by the fact I had cancer that fertility wasn't in the forefront of my mind. I just felt I needed to save my life for my husband and my daughter. Then after a year of treatment and chemotherapy it suddenly occurred to me I might never be able to get pregnant again!
Today there is a wealth of information for young women going through breast cancer. Many women have had pregnancies after cancer, and women's issues are discussed more openly. Ten years ago, I didn't know where to start. The Web wasn't the resource it is today, and support groups for young women didn't exist. When I did go to a breast cancer support group, everybody was over forty! There was nobody I could relate to. Until I met women through the Young Survival Coalition (a nationwide support group for young breast cancer survivors), I didn't really believe other young women had breast cancer.
My daughter really kept me going during treatment: wondering why mommy was so sick, rubbing my head when I lost my hair. I just had to look at that little face, so full of innocent support, and it gave me strength. I promised myself that if I was able to get pregnant again, I wouldn't miss a thing while that child was growing.
My oncologist said I needed a waiting period of two years before I tried to become pregnant; the breast surgeon and ob-gyn said five. I don't like to be told I can't do something, but I had a close relationship with my surgeon, so I trusted his opinion. Still, because I didn't have good info, I spent the next five years worrying that the child I brought into the world would be affected by my chemo.
Almost immediately after the five years were up we started trying—the doctors said there was only a certain window of time for it to work. We got pregnant within the second month of trying!
First, we found out the baby was a boy; then we found out through the ultrasound that he looked healthy. It was so overwhelming for my husband and me. Just to see the baby inside me and to know we had done this again—it felt like the cancer situation had been put behind us. Even so, I still had to see my breast surgeon once a month for an exam, as well as my ob-gyn.
The moment when Matthew was delivered was incredible. At the time, I felt that I had beaten the odds. Not only had I survived for five years, but I had produced another child and a healthy one. I was even able to breastfeed for a short time. Of course, since I'd had a mastectomy with reconstruction, I was a B-cup on one side and a D on the other after Matthew was born. It made for a very interesting bra situation!
Sue Lustig McPeek, 46, is a full-time mom who helps out her husband, Kenneth Grey McPeek, 43, in his business buying, selling, and managing racehorses. They live in Louisville, Kentucky, with their daughter, Jenna, who turns 5 on October 9.
I just knew something wasn't right: For quite some time, I'd had a slight thickening at the roof of my mouth where the hard palate meets the soft palate. I'd already been to several doctors and had a CAT scan, only to find nothing. Meanwhile, after several years of trying, I'd discovered I was pregnant. As you can imagine, cancer was the farthest thing from my mind! Still, something in me didn't feel comfortable about the thickening. I mentioned it to my hygienist while having my teeth cleaned. "Why don't you get it biopsied?" she said. It might just be a cyst." She set up an appointment for the following week, and a malignancy was found. Here I was, 40 years old, 26 weeks pregnant with my first child and facing cancer.
Suddenly, my life was full of fears, complications, and decisions. I was one more unwilling member of the "cancer society," the ones who spend their lives in, and money on, doctors offices and hospitals. The pathologists weren't sure exactly what kind of malignancy they were seeing, so they wanted a more extensive biopsy to be done under general anesthesia. They then said I had a PNET tumor, a peripheral neuroectodermal tumor, in the perimaxillary region of my head. It's a very rare, aggressive form of cancer, normally found in people far younger than myself.
A plan was formed. I began to receive injections of a steroid that would increase the development of my daughter's lungs so we could induce labor early. I was also given two treatments of chemotherapy while we waited. The drug was Vincristine, which the doctors felt had a low enough toxicity to leave my child unharmed while affording me some protection. After my second amniocentesis showed Jenna's lungs to be ready, we prepared for her birth. It was done by c-section, and it was a beautiful experience, an island of joy in a sea of uncertainty and concern. She weighed 4 pounds, 11 ounces and she has not missed a beat since joining us. She's healthy, happy and my special gift from God.
Now the attention turned to my cancer. Two weeks after Jenna was born, surgery was performed to remove my tumor. The procedure, called a midfacial degloving, resulted in minimal physical aftereffects and was done by Dr. Jeffrey Bumpous, one of my many heroes in all of this. The pathology of the tumor showed that no live tissue was left in what had been removed, the best news possible. Apparently, the chemotherapy I had received was very effective. That, or all the prayer lists I was on, worked! I followed up with a heavy-duty regime of chemotherapy suggested by my doctors, to ensure that the cancer cells didn't travel and pop up somewhere else in my body. I was able to continue through only 4 of 11 treatments before I ended up very sick in the hospital, close to death from the toxins inside me. The treatment I was receiving was one usually reserved for children. Because children have faster metabolisms than adults, the chemo drugs move out of their bodies more quickly. I'd taken control of my treatment from the beginning, and I knew that it was right for me to end my chemotherapy at that point.
There are several things I did that helped me through the whole ordeal. My husband, who is an avid reader of self-help books, gave me Dale Carnegie's How to Stop Worrying and Start Living. That book helped me survive the fear that threatened to take over my life. I also used the Internet to educate myself about what was known about my type of cancer. Finally, I allowed an article to be written about me in our trade journal, the Daily Racing Form (DRF). My husband trained thoroughbred racehorses at the time, so it was easy to approach my friend, Marty McGee, a reporter for the DRF, to ask for his help in spreading the word of my upcoming battle. By sharing my story in this way, I didn't have to answer the constant question "When are you due?" with my tale of horror. I was unprepared for, but extremely appreciative of, the outpouring of support from those who read about me. My openness about my cancer has given me great gifts and continues to do so even now, four and a half years later.
I wouldn't have asked to have cancer, but having had it, I can say that I have grown from the challenge, and I am proud to be a member of the cancer community, brave souls who have a chance to learn the true value of life.
Leslie Cornell lives in Las Vegas, Nevada, with her husband, Stan Cornell, Jr., a counselor for the developmentally disabled, and her son, Hayden, 1 1/2. She plans to return to school in the spring to resume her studies in music.
I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in January of 2002, at the age of 29. I had papillary carcinoma, which had spread to my lymph nodes, muscle and soft tissue in my neck. In March of 2002 I had my thyroidectomy. Two weeks later my doctors performed a radical neck dissection to remove the lymph chain and a lot of soft tissue and muscle in my neck.
My husband and I had only been married for two years when all this happened. We'd tried to have a baby six months into our marriage, but I'd miscarried at six weeks. We continued to try and try, with no luck. My obgyn considered us infertile because we'd tried everything, and there wasn't any explanation as to why we couldn't conceive.
In March of 2003 I was due for my first yearly radioactive I-131 scan, which tests for thyroid cancer. The scan requires you to get off thyroid hormones beforehand, allowing your TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone) levels to rise. The doctor then administers a radioactive iodine pill that travels through your body, and if anything lights ups, that indicates the thyroid cancer has returned. I had been off my thyroid medication for six weeks, and I wasn't feeling well.
I happened to see my obgyn before I had the scan. She said she wanted to make sure all my blood levels were okay. She did not tell me she was running a pregnancy test. It's almost impossible to conceive a baby with high TSH levels, and besides, we thought we were infertile, so pregnancy didn't even seem a reality. But my obgyn called me the next day to tell me that I was approximately five days pregnant!
We were in total shock—and scared too. What was going to happen? This was to be my first scan after being sick, but now I couldn't have it because the radiation would damage my baby. Would the fact that I'd been off my thyroid hormones when we got pregnant mean the baby was going to be okay? What would happen if the cancer was back—would the baby survive?
We'd wanted a baby so bad, I decided to take the chance: I told my doctor I was going to put off my scan till after the baby was born. I had other doctors telling me that my baby was going to be slow ¿ because my thyroid levels were so high when we conceived, and that the baby would probably have a low birth weight as well. One doctor even suggested I terminate the pregnancy. It was all so frustrating—but I did not listen to those doctors. I took care of myself the best I could. I saw a perinatologist (maternal-fetal doctor specializing in high-risk pregnancies), who was very positive and who guided me through the process with care.
Nine months later, I delivered a very healthy 9 pound 3 ounce baby boy! He was perfect in every way. He made me believe in miracles. He is our miracle.
I had my thyroid scan last June 2004. I am still in remission. And I couldn't be happier.
Elizabeth Jurenovich, 42, is the executive director of Abrazo Adoption Associates. She lives with her sons, Matthew, 2, and Christian, 3 1/2, in San Antonio, Texas.
In August 2001, I had my first-ever mammogram at age 38. The doctors found a malignant tumor in my breast. My mother had been diagnosed with breast cancer one year earlier, so I sort of saw the writing on the wall. Rather than doing radiation or chemo, I decided to have a bilateral mastectomy. On the day the surgery was set to happen, I was in pre-op being prepped, when one of my tests came back with unexpected results: I was pregnant with my first child!
My surgery was postponed until February, late in my second trimester. Meanwhile, in January 2002, I tested positive for BRCA-1 (a breast/ovarian cancer susceptibility gene). I had the mastectomy on Valentine's Day 2002, and my son, Christian, was born just six weeks later. Knowing the BRCA-1 status increased my risk for ovarian cancer, and contemplating the possibility of a prophylactic hysterectomy, I opted to birth my second son, Matthew, soon thereafter, in August 2003. Just one year after his birth, I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer. Fortunately, it was also successfully treated, with radiation therapy and a thyroidectomy.
Christian and Matthew were born so close together, I call them my Irish twins. They're even the same size: Christian was a preemie and Matthew has never met a food group he didn't like! Though Christian has hydrocephalus and his motor skills were slightly developmentally delayed, he has caught up, and he's now a busy 3-year-old—going on 14. Matthew developed meningitis after he was born, but today he's thriving.
I know that I am one of the lucky ones. I am so thankful for both of my sons and all of my doctors, and for the continued good health which allows us to enjoy every day we have together. God is good...and parenting is wonderful!
Jill Hymer, 34, a marketing consultant, lives in Columbus, Ohio, with her husband, Larry, 36, vice-president of a software development firm, and her children, Kennedy, 4, and Zach, 2.
While I was pregnant with my first child, Kennedy, I had all these weird things going on with my left breast. It got a little larger than my right; then it got very hard and hot. The skin on the outside was like an orange peel and they had to give me antibiotics. It didn't even dawn on me that it could be breast cancer. I just thought it was normal pregnancy stuff. I was so young-I really had no fears.
I had my daughter on June 18, 2001. Afterward, while I was still in the hospital, I was trying to breastfeed but it wasn't working on the left breast. My doctor had to aspirate (drain fluid from) what they thought was a cyst on that breast. They aspirated three times, but every time it filled back up. I wasn't really focused on the cyst, but my doctor said, "Let's go ahead and do an ultrasound." They didn't see anything on the first ultrasound, but when they did a second, they saw a solid mass. The diagnosis came on July 6, the day after I turned 30. It was inflammatory breast cancer—which is often misdiagnosed because there is no lump.
My husband and I wanted more children—originally we had wanted to have three or four. But the doctors said that since I was close to 30, I might go into menopause after treatment. I had less than two weeks to decide what to do—that's not a very large window to think about my options or do much research on freezing my eggs or anything. So we just went ahead with treatment and hoped it wouldn't push me into menopause.
I really think having my daughter helped me get through this. I was lucky—the treatment didn't make me that sick—but also, I didn't let myself waste time lying around feeling bad. I focused on Kennedy and being a good mom, and I tried to make my cancer treatment secondary.
I had chemotherapy before surgery to shrink my tumor, and radiation after. I was put on Xeloda (a chemotherapy pill), which I was scheduled to take from April through September of 2002. Then in August 2002, my husband and I found out I had gotten pregnant (a happy accident!), and the doctors gave me the okay to stop treatment early.
The main thing we had to figure out was whether the fetus had been harmed by the drugs—but, of course, there was no information. I called the maker of the drug and they had no record of anyone becoming pregnant on Xeloda. All we could get were studies on mice that showed them being born with webbed feet and cleft palates. All throughout the pregnancy we were worried something could be wrong with the baby, but we were constantly consulting with my oncologist, surgeon and ob-gyn. Since I was seeing so many doctors during the pregnancy, I was sure that if something was wrong, someone would catch it.
Although my pregnancy was high risk, amazingly enough, it turned out to be very normal. One morning, a couple of weeks before Zachary was due, I went to the doctor and it turned out I was already dilated five centimeters. I had some contractions, checked in to the hospital, had an epidural, and just one hour later, at 3 p.m., Zachary popped out! It was a quick and painless delivery.
We were very excited. It was such a relief just to see him and to make sure everything was there and that he was fine. Of course, we were also worried about me, since my cancer first came out during my pregnancy with Kennedy, but there was no research that getting pregnant could cause cancer or a recurrence. Frankly, though, I don't think there's enough research out there.
It's been four years this week since I was diagnosed and I'm feeling fine. I'm just a tired mother of two toddlers! I don't know if I would have been a different mom if I hadn't had cancer. I just know that I want to spend as much time with them as I can, taking them to parks, the library, and on trips. We're going to Niagara Falls for the first time since the kids were born. I think they'll love it.


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In boxing, Adrien Broner scored a TKO against Vicente Escobedo on Saturday, but he lost in every other way. He lost his junior lightweight belt (on the scales, when he twice failed to make agreed-upon weights), money (at least $60,000) and the respect of many fans. Broner showed his superior skill and speed in what was being billed as his last fight at super featherweight against Vicente Escobedo. Broner's speed was apparent from the very beginning. He scored flashy jabs and some very powerful hooks up top and to the body. Though Escobedo managed to get a few right jabs through, Broner's Philly shell, emulating Floyd Mayweather (43-0 26 KO), made any offense virtually null and void. In Round 5, a powerful flurry against the ropes hurt a bewildered Escobedo badly as he bled profusely from his nose. While Escobedo was covering up in a failed attempt to defend against the Broner onslaught, his trainer Joel Diaz threw in the towel to stop the fight. Broner caused a bit of pre-fight controversy by not making the 130 lb weight limit. Escobedo's side threatened to back out of the fight until a financial agreement could be met. Broner was fined, and Escobedo received an additional $120,000 to his purse. After the fight, Broner reiterated that he had outgrown the division and called out the likes of WBC lightweight (135 lbs) king Antonio DeMarco (27-2-1, 20 KO). ................................................................................ A slimmed-down Danny Green bid farewell to his Perth fans in grand style, defeating Mexican Danny Santiago by technical knockout in five rounds in Wednesday night's light-heavyweight clash at Challenge Stadium. Green dominated the catchweight (84.9kg) bout, sending Santiago to the canvas on three occasions before unleashing a series of left hooks and jabs to end the bout with just seconds remaining in the fifth round. The West Australian entered the bout on the back of losses to WBC cruiserweight champion Krzysztof Wlodarczyk and American Antonio Tarver. The 39-year-old weighed around 90kg for those two fights, but looked far more comfortable at 84.4kg against Santiago, who couldn't handle Green's deadly combination of speed and power. Green promoted the fight as his final bout in Perth, and was giving little away about what the future holds for him after the win. "I'm just going to relax," Green said after the win, before praising the parochial home crowd. "I've worked my ass off and persevered and hung in there, and I've done it for you guys." Green also praised Santiago, who kept attacking and throwing punches despite copping a battering. "I've knocked some people out, you should have been asleep with some of the shots you took tonight," Green said. "You're one tough hombre." ................................................................................ In tennis, Argentine Juan Monaco defeated home hope Tommy Haas 7-5 6-4 to claim his third title of the season in the ATP clay-court event in Hamburg. The 28-year-old Monaco, ranked 14th in the world and seeded third here, added to his titles from Vina del Mar in Chile and Houston, Texas on clay this year to bring his career tally to six. Former world number two Haas, 34, was playing his second final of the season, after beating Wimbledon champion Roger Federer on grass to lift the Halle title last month. "He played some fantastic tennis but I am happy and proud to have played another final here on home soil in front of my family," said Haas, who has mounted a resurgence in the world rankings this year after falling outside the top 200 following hip and shoulder injuries. "That gives me motivation for the future." It was his fourth consecutive defeat at the hands of Monaco, who will break into the world top 10 when the latest rankings are announced on Monday. ................................................................................ Slovenia's Polona Hercog rallied from a disastrous opening set to defeat Mathilde Johansson and successfully defend her Swedish Open title in Bastad. Sweden-born Johansson had been hoping to lift her first title in the country of her birth, but despite a bright start, she fell 0-6 6-4 7-5 to 21-year-old Hercog, ranked three places below her at world number 86. Hercog overcame early nerves to win the first four games of the second set and held on for a second career title after winning on her debut here last year. Johansson lacked consistency, twice losing games where she lead 0-40 in the second and third sets, and gifted Hercog a 4-1 lead in the final set by double-faulting. The French player fought back to make it 5-5 but then immediately dropped her serve, and the accumulation of unforced errors was ultimately to cost her a maiden title. ................................................................................ In cricket, Middlesex beat Essex by 9 wickets in the Clydesdale Bank 40. Middlesex replied with 148-1 after 22.3 overs, after Essex had posted 146-7. ................................................................................ Dale Steyn took five wickets as South Africa swept to an innings-and-12-run win in the first Test at The Kia Oval. The pace bowler claimed 5-56 and Imran Tahir 3-63 to bowl England out for 240 shortly before tea on the final day. Ian Bell's defiant 55 from 220 balls and Matt Prior's 40 failed to prevent England slipping to a first Test defeat at home since 2010. Once they fell within six overs of each other, England were quickly finished off by a ruthless South Africa side. Victory for South Africa - the last side to inflict an innings defeat on England, in early 2010 - capped a remarkable turnaround in fortunes after the hosts closed the first day on 267-3. And then of course England were swept away by incredible knocks by Graeme Smith 131 , Jacques Kallis 182 and of course Hashim Amla's 311 not out. ................................................................................ In the Stobart Super League, Leeds beat Bradford 34-16, while Warrington won 40-26 at Castleford, Wakefield won 35-14 at Huddersfield (which was the only result which shafted Razor's accumulator!), Widnes won 46-8 at Salford, Wigan won 44-6 at the London Broncos, and St Helens won 20-15 at the Catalans Dragons. Elsewhere in the NRL, Canberra won 36-4 at Cronulla. ................................................................................ In golf, Ernie Els won his second Open Championship by a shot after Adam Scott made bogey at the last four holes at Royal Lytham. Els came home in four-under 32, rolling in a 12-foot birdie putt at the last to card a closing 68. Scott was four shots clear of the field after 14 holes - the same margin he enjoyed overnight - but suddenly lost his way. He had an eight-foot par putt at 18 to earn a play-off but trailed the putt out to the left. Scott had looked in firm control of his emotions and his golf ball as he stood on the 15th tee with a four-shot lead, but he imploded after Els piled on the pressure with a stunning back-nine. And that proved enough for the South African to be crowned champion golfer of the year for the first time since 2002, when Scott tugged his final tee shot into a deep fairway bunker and was unable to salvage par. He did well to give himself a chance to force a play-off after knocking his third to eight feet, but he mis-read the putt to return a 75 and leave Els celebrating a fourth major title at the age of 42. Scott, four ahead overnight, atoned for an opening bogey with a birdie at the second before he dropped further shots at three and six to slip to nine under. However, he reeled off seven straight pars and appeared to have sealed his first major title when he rolled in a 12-foot birdie putt at 14, but he had reckoned without Els producing possibly the best nine holes of his career. There was little indication of the drama to come when Els made his second bogey of the day to turn in 36, but as the challenges of Tiger Woods and Graeme McDowell faltered, the 2002 champion carded three birdies in a blistering five-hole burst. He still trailed by two coming up the 18th, but he followed a perfect drive with a controlled wedge to 12 feet and confidently rapped the putt into the middle of the cup before watching the travails of Scott from the safety of the practice green. The challenge of Woods effectively ended at the sixth, where he took two swipes to escape a greenside bunker and then three-putted to run up and ugly triple-bogey seven. Birdies at 10 and 12 briefly got him back into the hunt, but Woods bogeyed the next three and a closing birdie was scant consolation as he posted a 73 to finish four behind Els. McDowell had started the day with high hopes of retaining the Claret Jug for Northern Ireland, but he also struggled in the first blustery conditions of the week. The 2010 US Open champion slipped out of contention with three straight bogeys around the turn, a duck-hook from the middle of the 11th fairway scattering the galleries and resulting in a lost ball. McDowell eventually limped in with a 75 to finish on two under alongside world No.1 Luke Donald, who closed with a solid three-birdie 69 to earn only his second top-10 finish at the Open. Halfway leader Brandt Snedeker double-bogeyed both the seventh and eighth but managed to salvage a 74 to finish tied for third with playing-partner Woods. And Nicolas Colsaerts boosted his Ryder Cup hopes as a sparkling 65, his second of the week, propelled him into a tie for seventh on one under. ................................................................................ Scott Stallings fired a four-under-par round of 68 on Sunday to claim a two-shot victory at the True South Classic. The Massachusetts-born 27-year-old had entered the final round with a one-stroke advantage after completing a weather-delayed third round of 64 earlier in the day in Madison, Mississippi. And he held his nerve in the fourth round with another solid display, picking up five shots - including late birdies on 16 and 17 to pull away - and only blotting his copybook with a bogey five at the 14th. That gave Stallings a 24-under-par total of 264 - a tournament record at Annandale Golf Club - and a second PGA Tour triumph. Jason Bohn carded a five-under 67 to stay in contention, but had to settle for second place. Billy Horschel (71) was four shots off the pace in third, with Bud Cauley (66) a further stroke adrift in fourth. ................................................................................ In Formula 1, Ferrari's Fernando Alonso beat Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel and McLaren's Jenson Button in a close fight to win the German Grand Prix. The Spaniard became the only man to win three times so far this season. He drove a controlled race and stayed just far enough ahead of his pursuers to maintain the lead. Button climbed up from sixth on the grid to pass Vettel at the second pit stops but was re-passed with two laps to go. However, the Englishman was promoted to second place after race stewards gave Vettel a 20-second penalty for his overtake of Button on the penultimate lap. Lewis Hamilton retired with gearbox damage after running well down the field following an early puncture. But he will not incur any penalty for a gearbox change because of his retirement. The result extends Alonso's championship lead to 34 points ahead of Red Bull's Mark Webber who had a low-key race to eighth place, never showing any real pace. Alonso said: "It was tough, not an easy race. Maybe we were not the quickest in dry conditions but we were competitive and it was enough to maintain the lead. "Great strategy calls from the team to keep me ahead through the pit stops. I knew it would be a long race to the end, with Jenson putting pressure. "But the car was feeling good on top speed and traction and that was enough to keep the lead into Turn 6, and after that overtaking is not so easy." The only consolation for Hamilton on the occasion of his 100th grand prix was that the McLaren showed encouraging pace following a major performance upgrade. At one stage, Hamilton unlapped himself on Vettel - although not Alonso - as he attempted vainly to recover from his early set-back. A move which angered the double world champion. Alonso was never very far in front but was always able to stay just far enough ahead of first Vettel and then Button to ensure they could not use their DRS overtaking aids to pass him into the hairpin at Turn 6. It led to a tense grand prix in which the identity of the winner was always in doubt until Alonso took the chequered flag. The Ferrari made a lightning start from pole position and although Vettel quickly closed up the initial gap Alonso had built on the first lap, the Spaniard was able to pull clear before their first pit stops to ensure he held the lead into the second stint. Meanwhile, Button was fighting past Hulkenberg and then Schumacher, to move quietly into third place. Vettel emerged from his first pit stop five seconds ahead of Button but the McLaren closed remorselessly on the Red Bull and passed the German by making his second stop a lap earlier. Vettel emerged from the pits to find Button on his outside on the run to Turn 2, and the McLaren easily took the position. Button was rarely more than a second behind Alonso from then until the end of the race but the Ferrari driver was always in control and in the closing laps he stretched away as Button began to lose grip in his rear tyres. Rather than try to take the lead, Button had to spend the closing laps fighting off a late challenge from Vettel, who passed him at the Turn 6 hairpin on the penultimate lap. Vettel said: "The pace was there but it was extremely difficult when I was close to Fernando and Jenson we seemed to lose a lot and not be able to stay close enough to try to something under braking. "I am not entirely happy, it could have been a bit better if it was clean air most of the race but that was not the case. Second place was the best we could get today and I am happy with that." Button said: "It was a close race and I couldn't quite get Fernando at the end. "When you are in the middle of three you really have to fight and I was pushing a little bit more in the early part of the stint, whereas when you're in front you can coast a bit in the bits where you don't need to push. "It was close but Fernando knows as we all do where to use Kers to keep someone behind you. I ran out of steam at the end of the straight and the gap was a little bit too big to get back. "But it was a fun race and it's nice to be on the podium again. I've had my feeling back the last two races but the pace hasn't been there [in the car], but today it was. We're there or thereabouts at the front, still a little way to go." Raikkonen provided some exciting racing as he moved up from 10th on the grid. On the way, Raikkonen engaged in top-class racing with Mercedes driver Michael Schumacher and the Force Indias of Nico Hulkenberg and Paul di Resta. Schumacher finished seventh behind Sauber drivers Kamui Kobayashi and Sergio Perez. Hulkenberg and Di Resta took the final points positions in ninth and 10th. ................................................................................ In horse racing, defending champion Nathaniel was denied victory by a nose as Danedream won the King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes at Ascot in dramatic fashion. The 9-1 shot, ridden by Andrasch Starke and trained by Peter Schiergen, pipped Nathaniel in the final stride. It was a return to form for last year's Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe winner, who became the first German horse to triumph at the Group One feature. Aidan O'Brien's St Nicholas Abbey finished well to claim third, with Reliable Man in fourth, while Imperial Monarch was a non-runner. Nathaniel, who won the Coral-Eclipse at Sandown just two weeks ago, had looked set for victory when quickening into the lead in the home straight but Danedream had sufficient momentum to snatch victory on the line. She became the first filly to win the race since Time Charter struck as a four-year-old in 1983. Starke told BBC Sport: "It was close - it was very tight - but I had a good feeling. She fought hard and it's definitely the biggest moment in my life." ................................................................................ In snooker's Players Tour Championship Event One in Gloucester, Scotland's Stephen Maguire defeated Jack Lisowski 4-3, who had earlier beaten Mark Williams in the semis.
Naps & Nips
Jimma and Razor, and sometimes guests to the bookies like Perkis, Edmo and The Duke, offer up some interesting betting tips, to MAYBE take some interest in and delve into those long pockets....
Anoraks Corner
A drunken menage a trois
Lukey, Jimma and Dunners all spill their beans together
Film Review: THE DESCENDANTS
Alexander Payne's bittersweet reflection on family and grief is a drama of unusual nuance and maturity, with George Clooney eager to play the fool to outstanding effect
Nicole Scherzinger reveals her cheeky side in daring new book
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have apologised to North Korean athletes whose images were shown next to the South Korean flag. The mix-up delayed the women's football match, at Glasgow's Hampden Park on the first day of sporting action.


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MEMPHIS, Tenn. – International Paper Co. won U.S. antitrust approval to acquire rival Temple-Inland Inc on the condition that they divest three mills that make paper for corrugated boxes, the U.S. Justice Department said on Friday.
Without the divestitures, the combined company would have had control of 37 percent of the North American capacity for containerboard, which is used to make corrugated boxes, the department said.
Under a consent decree, Temple-Inland will sell its mills in Waverly, Tenn., and Ontario, Calif., and International Paper will divest either its mill in Oxnard, Calif., or one in Henderson, Ky.
"With the mill divestitures, the transaction can proceed and American consumers and businesses across the country can be assured that competition is preserved in this important industry that is vital to the U.S. economy," said Sharis Pozen, the acting head of the Justice Department's antitrust division.
Temple-Inland agreed to be acquired in September after International Paper sweetened its offer to $3.7 billion.


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Event: Actors Vivek Oberoi, Neetu Chandra, Tanushree Dutta and Meiyang Chang attended Cancer Patients Aid Association's Rose Day 2012 celebration.
Guest List: Vivek Oberoi, Neetu Chandra, Tanushree Dutta, Meiyang Chang
Bollywood celeb Aamir Khan along with wife Kiran Rao were spotted at PVR.
Bollywood producers-directors Vidhu Vinod Chopra, Krishan Kumar, Ravi Bahl, Divya Khosla Kumar, Sajid Nadiadwala, Wardha Nadiadwala celebrate diwali with Bhushan Kumar
Bollywood celebs Kareena Kapoor Khan, Malaika Arora, Sonali Bendre, Nimrat Kaur among others were snapped by paparazzi.Bebo looked super cool in a casual look. She wore a white t-shirt with yoga pants...
Bollywood actress Shama Sikander celebrated Diwali festival at her residence.
Bollywood celebs Aamir Khan, Zaira Wasim, Fatima Sana Shaikh, Sanya Malhotra, Anil Kapoor, Nitesh Tiwari, Aparshakti Khurrana, Bhushan Kumar, Javed Akhtar, Shabana Azmi, Sachin Tendulkar, Rajkumar Hir...


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Prospect of the Week: October 23, 2012
This week we continue our Prospect of the Week award, an honor (virtually) given to one Tampa Bay Lightning prospect for their recent contributions on and off the ice.
This week's winner is no stranger to winning.
The Prospect of the Week for October 23 is … Dustin Tokarski, goaltender, Syracuse Crunch (AHL - USA)
Despite winning a Calder Cup last season, Lightning goaltending prospect Dustin "Tic" Tokarski wasn't guaranteed anything when he moved with Tampa Bay's affiliation from Norfolk to Syracuse. Even with a Calder Cup, World Juniors gold medal, Memorial Cup, Ed Chynoweth Cup (WHL), and Telus Cup (Canadian Midget-level hockey) on his resume, the Saskatchewan native had to outplay former Lightning first rounder and Finnish import Riku Helenius for the right to start the Crunch's season-opening game.
The battle isn't over – and likely won't be anytime soon – as Syracuse Head Coach Jon Cooper anticipates rotating the goaltenders until one separates himself from the other.
Tokarski - nicknamed "Tic" and sporting "The Tick" superhero on his helmet - may have taken a slight lead this past weekend on the road.
On Friday night, Tokarski stopped 25 of 27 shots as the Crunch came from behind to top the Devils in Albany, 3-2. One night later he was watching from the bench as Helenius got the start, but allowed five goals in just under 27 minutes of action. "Tic" was summoned from the bench to plug the dam but he decided to play superhero instead, stopping 14 of 14 shots in relief as Syracuse completed a monumental comeback with a 6-5 overtime win.
Tokarski maintained superhero-status on Sunday, saving all but a late third period shot to nearly record a shutout against the Wilkes-Barre Penguins in Pennsylvania. With Sunday's win, the Crunch completed a weekend sweep and returned home to New York with six points added to their total in the league standings. At 4-0-0-1, the Crunch are looking down on everyone in the league from atop the conference. They also lead the league in goals with 21.
But not as impressive as this: Tokarski hasn't lost in regulation in his last 17 regular season games (16-0-1). Add in last year's playoff numbers and he's 29-2-1 in his last 32 games.
Not bad for a player who lasted until the fifth round of the 2008 NHL draft because of size concerns.
For the season, Tokarski is 3-0-1 with a 2.19 goals against average and a .907 save percentage. Last year he finished with a 32-11 record to go with a 2.23 GAA and .913 sv%.
Ranked the Lightning's No. 8 prospect in our top-25, Tokarski projects as an NHL starting goaltender in the future. He has the smarts, athletic ability, and desire to be a solid NHL goaltender capable of winning big games and leading his team deep in the playoffs. He may not top out as an All-Star, but we wouldn't bet against him achieving superhero status if that's what his team needs.
Previous 2012-2013 Prospect of the Week winners:
September 25, Andrei Vasilevski, G, Ufa Jr, MHL-Russia
October 2, Andrei Vasilevski, G, Ufa Jr, MHL-Russia
October 9, Cedric Paquette, C, Blainville-Boisbriand, QMJHL-Canada
October 15, Cory Conacher, W, Syracuse, AHL-Canada
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1. Re: No videoSteve Grisetti Apr 26, 2012 10:53 AM (in response to Robele 9)
What model of camcorder is your video coming from and what resolution is it?
When you set up your Premiere Elements project, which settings did you select? If you selected the correct settings, you will not see red lines above the clips on your timeline. Is this the case with your project?
2. Re: No videoRobele 9 Apr 26, 2012 11:11 AM (in response to Steve Grisetti)
Thank you for your prompt response.
I got these video clips on DVD disk. So I do not know what kind of camcoder was used to take these videos.I was told that the video is blue ray format.
Project setting I used HDV. I see red line above the clips. Do I have project setting problem?
3. Re: No videoSteve Grisetti Apr 26, 2012 11:47 AM (in response to Robele 9)
Yes. But I'm not sure we can resolve them without knowing more about your video source.
Try opening one of the videos in G Spot or Media Info and post the specs (or a screen capture of the specs), particularly the resolution, frame rate and audio and video codecs.
Also make sure your computer has the latest version of Quicktime from Apple, per the program's requirements.
4. Re: No videoJohn T Smith Apr 26, 2012 12:44 PM (in response to Robele 9)1 person found this helpful
Yes, your project is wrong
Read Bill Hunt on a file type as WRAPPER http://forums.adobe.com/thread/440037
What is a CODEC... a Primer http://forums.adobe.com/thread/546811
What CODEC is INSIDE that file? http://forums.adobe.com/thread/440037
Report back with the codec details of your file, use the programs below... a screen shot works well to SHOW people what you are doing
For PC http://www.headbands.com/gspot/ or http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en
For Mac http://mediainspector.massanti.com/
If you have a red line over the timeline after importing a video and before adding any effects... your project is wrong for your video... read above about codecs
Once you know exactly what it is you are editing, report back with that information... and your project setting, and if there is a red line above the video in the timeline, which indicates a mismatch between video and project
5. Re: No videoRobele 9 Apr 26, 2012 4:17 PM (in response to Steve Grisetti)
I tried my vedio with G Spot and Mediainfo as you and Hohn Smith suggested. G Spot could not verify my vedio CODEC, but Mediainfo informed me as follows:
Format BDAV, Vedio CODEC: AVC and Audio CODEC: AC3.
Is this info any good?
6. Re: No videoJohn T Smith Apr 26, 2012 7:37 PM (in response to Robele 9)
>Project setting I used HDV
Your AVC(HD) file needs an AVCHD project
7. Re: No videoRobele 9 Apr 27, 2012 8:57 AM (in response to John T Smith)
Thank you, John.
I started a new project and met another challenge. There are 7 items under AVCHD. Which one under AVCHD should I select?
8. Re: No videoJohn T Smith Apr 27, 2012 9:02 AM (in response to Robele 9)
You select the AVCHD project that completely matches your video... which would be the rest of the details that Mediainfo gave you... such as the pixel size (x times y) and frame rate
If your project is correct, you will not see a red line over the timeline when you import the video, and before you do any work
9. Re: No videoRobele 9 Apr 27, 2012 10:31 AM (in response to John T Smith)
John Thanks.
Looks like I am going somewhere. I got a clip of video to test and red line is gone. On the review panel, video stays frozen while audio is playing. Do I still have project setting problem?
10. Re: No videoSteve Grisetti Apr 27, 2012 11:20 AM (in response to Robele 9)1 person found this helpful
If that's the case, it may be that your computer is not fast enough to process hi-def video (which often requires as much a quad core or i7processor).
11. Re: No videoJohn T Smith Apr 27, 2012 12:21 PM (in response to Robele 9)
OK... now provide the information about your hardware and operating system
As Steve says, AVCHD requires a powerful computer to edit
12. Re: No videoRobele 9 Apr 27, 2012 2:44 PM (in response to John T Smith)
John and Steve:
You helped me great and I learned a lot. Thank you.
I used my Sony laptop which has Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T5800 and Blue ray player. I thought this laptop can handle it. But looks like I need better PC.
Thank you again.
13. Re: No videoJohn T Smith Apr 27, 2012 3:53 PM (in response to Robele 9)1 person found this helpful
For AVCHD, you need a laptop that is designed for video editing, or a desktop (also designed for video editing)
Some ideas for a Desktop Video Editing PC
-ADK Kudos http://forums.adobe.com/thread/877201
Build http://forums.adobe.com/thread/947698
-more build ideas http://ppbm6.com/Planning.html
-Build it Yourself http://forums.adobe.com/thread/815798
Some ideas for a Laptop Video Editing PC from past discussions
For effective HD video editing, a laptop with the following
-at least the Intel sandy bridge 2720 or 2820 quad processor
-and nvidia graphics preferably the 460m, 485m is a bit much
-1280x900 display with OpenGL 2.0-compatible graphics card
-and 8 or 16 gig ram and Win7 64bit Pro
-and 2 internal 7200 HDDs minimum
This message has a really good graphic about requirements
CS5 Requirements http://forums.adobe.com/thread/810750
About Requirements http://forums.adobe.com/thread/618058
Disk Configurations http://forums.adobe.com/thread/878419
14. Re: No videoRobele 9 Apr 27, 2012 5:16 PM (in response to John T Smith)
I salute you for your in-depth knowledge on video editing and kindness to share it with others.
Thank you for all information on PC and laptop.
15. Re: No videoJohn T Smith Apr 27, 2012 8:06 PM (in response to Robele 9)
There are others here who's knowledge is far deeper than mine... I share those things I know, and what has been discussed before... someday, you will share what you know with someone new


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Stretch your legs and expand your soul on Australia's epic walking trails.
Do day walks, short scenic sections or stride end-to-end on journeys that take weeks and even months to complete. Traverse Tasmania's World Heritage-listed wilderness on the Overland Track or follow the Larapinta Trail across the Northern Territory's West MacDonnell Ranges. Do sections of South Australia's Heysen Trail, which stretches from the Fleurieu Peninsula to Flinders Ranges. Spend three days in the World Heritage-listed Blue Mountains or hike through Gondwanan rainforest on the Gold Coast. Do day walks through Victoria's Wilsons Promontory or soak up the beauty of Western Australia's south-west corner on the Bibbulmun Track.
Sydney's Great Coastal Walk
Traverse Sydney's entire, spectacular coastline - from Barrenjoey in the north to Cronulla in the south - on this unique week-long adventure. You can walk in either direction and hop on and off the trail as you wish. Do day walks, short scenic sections or any of the many walks looping off the main trail.
Gold Coast Hinterland Great Walk
Walk through lush Gondwanan rainforest and along the rim of an ancient, eroded volcano on this spectacular series of day walks. The trail traverses a landscape as old as the dinosaurs, linking World Heritage-listed Lamington and Springbrook plateaux with Egg Rock and Turtle Rock in the scenic Numinbah Valley. See the Tweed Volcano which erupted around 25 million years ago and the powerful, crystal-clear streams and waterfalls that continue to erode it today. Explore Woonoongoora, known to the local Yugambeh people as 'Queen of the Mountains'. Learn their ancient ancestral legends of how the rivers and valleys were formed. Camp in the rainforest at Green Mountains, Woonoongoora and The Settlement or in the private camping area at Binna Burra. The best time to walk this track is between March and October, when temperatures are milder.
Six Foot Track
Take in breathtaking Blue Mountains scenery and 200 years of history on this original 1884 horse track from Katoomba to Jenolan Caves. Suitable for walkers of average fitness, the 45km route can be broken into day walks or conquered comfortably in three days.
The Overland Track
Travel through the heart of Tasmania's World Heritage-listed wilderness on this famous 65-kilometre trek from Cradle Mountain to Lake St Clair. Walk the entire Overland Track in six days or do short and day walks from the Cradle Mountain Visitor Centre and Dove Lake. Remember the end-to-end walk requires planning. You'll need to book in advance with Tasmania's Parks & Wildlife Service and take with you a good tent and warm sleeping bag. While the route has eight basic stove-heated huts, there's no guarantee of space. The best time to walk the track is between November and April, when the weather is milder and days are longer for Daylight Saving. During April, you can see the spectacular changing colours of the deciduous beech. As well as a physical challenge, this walk is a true communion with nature. You'll see lakes, forests and gorges, mountains and moors, spectacular waterfalls and steep, stony peaks.
The Bibbulmun Track
Discover towering forests, tranquil farmland and wild beaches on this award-winning walk through Western Australia's south-west. The gold snake signs that mark the trail stretch almost 1,000 kilometres, from the Perth hills to Albany on the south coast. Scale Mt Cooke in the Darling Range and lose yourself in the lush forest fringing the Darling River. Visit vineyards in the Blackwood Valley, walk next to waterfalls and wildflowers in Beedelup National Park and clamber over granite boulders on the Pingerup Plains. Walk through sky-scraping karri trees in the Valley of the Giants, swim from Peaceful Bay and watch migrating whales from Albany. Do the walk in sections, or mix and match day and multi-day treks according to your time, the scenery you want to see, and your energy. Keep in mind it would take around two months to follow the snake markers all the way! The track is well-equipped, with hikers' huts or camping sites situated a day's walk apart.
The Thorsborne Trail
Trek the 32km Thorsborne Trail along the eastern coast of Hinchinbrook Island - an untouched tropical paradise on the coast between Townsville and Cairns. Over four days you'll traverse cloud-cloaked mountains, jungle-like rainforest, melaleuca swamps and pristine white beaches. See a panorama of wildlife, from bright butterflies and birds to crocodiles, sea turtles, dugongs and dolphins. This is a true wilderness walk for the experienced walker - the path isn't graded or hardened so can be difficult to traverse in places. Walk in either direction, camp in any of the seven designated sites and remember to 'leave no trace'. Only 40 people can walk the trail at any one time, so book your permit well in advance. Planning and following safety guidelines is vital. The best time to walk is during the cooler months from April to September. You can reach the island on a ferry or water taxi from Cardwell or Lucinda.
Australian Alps Walking Track
Cross three states, four national parks and some of Australia's highest peaks on this tough long-distance walk. The trail follows the crest of the Australian Alps for 65km, from Walhalla in Victoria to Tharwa just south of Canberra. Wind up and down the Baw Baw Plateau, Mt Howitt, the Bogong High Plains and the Cobberras in Victoria. Traverse the rugged mountains of Kosciuszko National Park in New South Wales and the rocky wilderness of Namadgi National Park near Canberra. Pitch your tent in the wilderness, stay in camping grounds, historic huts or alpine resorts close to the track. Do day treks or combine shorter, more manageable sections of the trail. The end-to-end walk takes about 50 to 60 days and is strictly for the intrepid traveller.
The Heysen Trail
Hike all the way from Cape Jervis on the Fleurieu Peninsula to the mountain town of Parachilna on the 1,200 kilometre Heysen Trail. Or mix and match day and multi-day walks, choosing from dramatic coastlines, farmland and forests, picturebook towns, vine-lined valleys and rugged mountain ranges. Like a quality box of chocolates, this trail offers the best of South Australia's wildly assorted scenic beauty. Walk next to waterfalls in Deep Creek Conservation Park and visit the historic German village of Hahndorf. Taste wine in the world-famous Barossa Valley and see settler-relics in the grazing country beyond. Head into the Flinders Ranges, where fossils date back millennia and Aboriginal rock art is as old as the Dreaming. Walk over Mt Remarkable and to the rim of the ancient, awe-inspiring crater of Wilpena Pound. Sleep in campsites, huts and shelters or in any of the towns dotting the trail.
Wilsons Promontory
Walking is the best way to explore the natural sanctuary of Wilsons Promontory. Known as 'The Prom' to locals, it embraces 50,000 hectares of coastal wilderness on mainland Australia's southernmost tip. The many well-marked trails traverse empty beaches and eucalypt forest, heath and swamp, cool rainforest gullies and rocky mountain tops. Opt for short and scenic trails, like the Loo-Errn Track, ideal for families and the mobility-impaired. Do a day trek to the lighthouse or spend three days on the Wilsons Promontory Circuit Trail, which starts from the main tourist hub of Tidal River. Scale Mount Oberon or hike out to remote and beautiful Millers Landing. Stay at campsites throughout the park and get up close to the park's incredible array of native plants, birds and animals. You can also dive and snorkel with magical marine life in the clear, protected waters offshore.
Larapinta Trail
Trek along the backbone of the West MacDonnell Ranges to attractions such as Simpsons Gap, Ellery Creek Big Hole, Ormiston Gorge and Glen Helen Gorge. This epic chain of day walks stretches more than 223km from the old Alice Springs Telegraph Station to Mount Sonder and Mount Razorback. Stand on ancient escarpments and look out over vast ochre-colored landscapes. Visit sites sacred to the Arrernte Aboriginal people. Scramble down sheltered gorges, swim in cool waterholes and sleep under a sea of stars. Outback camping is one of the trail's highlights, along with the diversity of desert habitats, native birds, animals and nearly 600 species of rare flora. Tailor your walk along 12 sections, which range from effortless to arduous and have four wheel drive access. Or give yourself three weeks and a challenge yourself on the end-to-end trek.


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I miss my riding
Postby gretaboy » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:27 am
To make matters worst, this last week has been perfect for riding, little bit of rain, but not a lot and the temp has been just right.
I have got another week or so to go before I can ride again. I am looking forward to getting my cast off as a start but am really looking forward to being able to ride to work again and put my life on the line battling the trucks and crazies.
I know my hand isn't going to be 100% right and the riding will hurt me but I also know I can't wait any longer, can't put riding off. Driving to work at the moment all I can do is think about the route I take, which is exactly the same as my bike ride, and the points on the route which will hurt me in the first couple of weeks back riding.
I think my partner will also be looking forward to the change in me once I start riding again, she always comments on my moodiness when I haven't ridden for a while.
This injury has made me appreciate though the gift of "normality" that I take for granted and what I am able to do as a result.
Sorry, I just needed to offload
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That first ride might hurt physically but it will do great things for your soul.
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Postby dino1969 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:28 pm
Ozkaban wrote:offload completely understandable. Hope you're back in the saddle again soon.
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Postby ave a go » Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:57 pm
gretaboy wrote:You wouldn't think a simple bike ride or the lack of one could make such a difference to one's disposition but after nearly 5 weeks of no riding, I am a real grump.
I've only been riding/commuting since the start of the year and notice the same thing after only a couple of days off. Would hate to think what I'd be like after weeks!!!!!!
dino1969 wrote:Ozkaban wrote:offload completely understandable. Hope you're back in the saddle again soon.
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Postby Sydguy » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:35 am
Made me realise how much longer it takes to get to work on the train, yawn. And it is so uncomfortable and hot!
Plan to be back on the bike Monday morning!
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Postby malocchio » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:25 am
I've been told by the minster of war and finance that I'm not allowed to commute until we return from our vacation (we leave in two weeks), so I'm counting down the days to our trip, and to our return when I can finally put some km's into my legs!
All the best with your recovery, good luck with getting back on the bike!
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Postby gabrielle260 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:22 am
Good luck and be patient... My mistake was that I tried to get back on the road too soon - not a good idea!
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Postby gretaboy » Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:04 am
The legs certainly felt it whilst riding, but I wasnt going to push myself too badly. Was just happy to get some k's under my legs. My thumb held up pretty well, it was a little sore but overall it felt good.
Weather was ok until my last 8 k's then the heavens opened up, it was heavy. But have had a shower at work and got cleaned up and am feeling on top of the world now. Have already decided I will ride home regardless of weather
Thanks to everyone for the well wishes by the way.
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Postby Jangari » Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:10 pm
I've been on a research field trip in a remote aboriginal community for the past 8 weeks, and 4 more to go, and have only recently found myself a ride. It's a Southern Star MTB, 3 x 8 that I converted to a single speed (using an angle grinder, punch and hammer in lieu of a chain breaker) with a bottom bracket that feels as though there are no bearings in it whatsoever and wheel bearings just as bad.
Well, you get what you pay for: it was lying in a ditch.
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I injured my ankle at gymnastics training 6 weeks ago and was devastated when I was told I was in a cast for 2 weeks followed by wearing a moon boot for another three weeks.
About a week ago I had the moon boot removed and was able to hop back on the bike
I hope that you get back on the saddle soon
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The first auction market for flue-cured tobacco since the end of the federal price support program was scheduled to open Aug. 15.
The auctions began that day at all 11 marketing centers operated by the Flue-Cured Tobacco Cooperative Stabilization Corp. [see list below], and it was anyone's guess as to how the sales would go.
"This is the first time since 1939 that we have sold flue-cured tobacco in a free market, so there is no history to give us an idea of how it will work," says J.T. "Tommy" Bunn, executive vice president of the Leaf Tobacco Exporters Association. "We are all anxiously waiting to see the direction the market takes."
One aspect of the sale has definitely changed, Bunn says: There will be additional buyers coming to look at U.S. tobacco now that the price support program has been terminated.
"Our leaf is considerably more attractive than it has been in the past," he says. "What our customers are looking for is more value for their money, and they see a chance of finding that here in the United States this season.
"The situation is more encouraging now than it has been in some time, and it will be interesting to see if any new orders emerge."
If any do, the buyers from China may be the likeliest candidates to make them.
"We are informed that Chinese buyers will be here," says Bunn. "What will they look for? They generally like a different style than most of our buyers — leaf that is on the brighter side and very clean, as opposed to leaf that is dark and ripe to overripe. But they are extremely price sensitive, so if the price is appealing they may buy leaf that is not exactly to their preference."
Any effect of buying by China and other non-traditional buyers may not be immediately apparent at market opening because these buyers probably will not arrive until September.
It is difficult to predict how many farmers planted flue-cured this year, but about 3,500 have entered into agreements with the cooperative to deliver leaf to the marketing centers, says Arnold Hamm, general manager of the cooperative.
About half of those are "exclusive" agreements that bind the grower to sell all his leaf to the cooperative, while the rest are "non-exclusive" agreements that allow the grower to contract with other companies as well.
Any interested buyer is welcome at these auctions, and Hamm says he expects most of the traditional buyers and a few new ones when sales begin.
The 11 cooperative marketing centers for 2005 are: Georgia — Nashville and Statesboro; South Carolina — Lake City and Mullins; North Carolina — Clinton, Williamston, Wilson, Oxford and Winston-Salem; and Virginia — Danville and South Hill.
To assist in obtaining the best leaf possible, the cooperative has tried to communicate to its growers during the season what it thinks they should know about growing a marketable product in 2005.
"We are giving them the best advice we can as to how to be successful during this transition," says Hamm. "We recommend they separate their leaf by stalk position, make every effort to ensure the tobacco is ripe, and also to ensure that it is clean, which includes no unapproved pesticide residue and low levels of Tobacco Specific Nitrosamines."
Under the federal program, the question of how much separation by grades was economical was always a hard decision for farmers, and it is still a gray area.
"We advise separating into a minimum of three stalk positions — lugs, cutters and leaf," says Hamm. "It might well pay to split out a fourth position this season. There does seem to be a demand for the very top leaves, or tips. If tobacco presents itself that way, I believe the market will reward farmers for harvesting tips separately."
This year, for the first time since 1939, a flue-cured grower whose tobacco doesn't attract a buyer at auction will have to take it home. Hamm is hoping that won't happen often.
"I personally believe that all sound leaf will sell at some price, assuming supply is close to demand," he says. "I think the market will 'clear.' But there could be some bargain prices."
The Leaf Exporters Association leader Bunn is optimistic about industry off take too. "My impression is that the quality of this flue-cured crop is good," he says. "If the extreme heat in July didn't cause too much harm, it has very good potential."
There has been some loss of production, especially in Georgia, where heavy rains and disease hurt a lot of farmers. But his reading is that supply will be somewhere in the general area of demand, at least as far as traditional buyers are concerned.
The situation might be different for burley. About as much was contracted for production this year as was actually sold last year (not counting loan receipts). But that may not be enough.
"There is a growing demand for burley in world markets as American blend cigarettes replace blends that don't include burley," Bunn says. "And there is not as much burley available as flue cured."