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Escape to the Movies: Django Unchained
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Whats so awesome/cool about that guy telling his thoughts with the back to the camera?
Naw man dont worry about it im from mississippi I dont think it will be like that. Not for the majority of mature smart humans anyway.
The problem I think with the "it could be taken that way" is a weak arguement usually given out by brownnosing liberals whenever they want to look like there defending civil rights by pointing out in a media some sort of "possible implication"
Ill give an example:
If I made a movie where all the women were steroid buffed ou,t loudmouthed, and ripped way more than a woman is naturally capable of would you think that there are people out there who think all women are like that? didnt think so.
Now take the inverse which is used alot. All the women are skinny and frail and lack agency ergo someone will watch this one movie and think "Gee all women are weak"? I dont think so either its an insult to the senses. Weve seen body builders weve seen women talk with intelligence and be dumb as bricks even if one movie has only one of those our perception is not so mutable as some would claim. A misogynist doesnt think all women are dumber; unless there incredibly sheltered this is a misnomer that applies alot. they think that they should be dumber.
So no I dont think anyone will jump to that conclusion and Im from the south.
You know Bob, for a guy who spends so much of his time lamenting how the Hollywood machine makes his awesome job a little less awesome by shitting out an endless stream of cookie-cutter copycat films year in year out, you sure have been spending an awful amount of time spitefully sniping at pretty much any movie from the Superhero genre that doesn't come out of the gates resembling a carbon copy of The Avengers.
That whole thing with the gallery of villains was just a blatant and open excuse to fling a fresh load of your shit at Superhero movies that favour a darker and more serious tone. It had next to nothing to do with Django Unchained.
First I'm going to edit Therumancer's post to get rid of the irrelevant crap.
This is exactly the sort of casuistic moral equivication and moral fallacy that I'd expect from you Therumancer.
So because there was slavery of all people in the far past and slavery in the present that makes the use of African slave labour in the Southern States and the rest of the Americas less reprehensible?
So the fact that it was partially Africans or Arab Africans who responded to the American demand for slaves that somehow makes the ownership of slaves by Southern plantation owners less reprehensible?
Typical of you Therumancer that you attempt to whitewash what is rightfully considered to be a dark stain on the US past with the with specious Golden Rationalisation and Comparative Virtue. Yes, everybody country and culture that participated in the slave trade should look deep into its soul. The US makes that introspection occasionally and people like you cry tears about "white-guilt", that "other's were just as bad", that "slavery was practised for all of human history".
The US is actually so introspective is the indelible stain that it has left on US society. Slavery gave way to white supremecism and segregation. African Americans still find themselves disproportionally targeted in some areas by law enforcement. These things have gotten better, but playing the "comparitive virtue" card, that it's worse in other nations in the world, doesn't make it okay. Comparing one's culture to worse or the worst of human cultures is not interesting nor does it lead to the introspection required for improvement.
I would also ask you Therumancer about why you cry so much about "White-Guilt"? Perhaps it is because you feel the phenomenon keenly and therefore being reminded about the trangressions of the past upsets you so that you must find these flawed justifications for the things that were done?
So no. Tarantino does not need to have Django go back to Africa to kill his original enslavers. It's an American movie speaking directly to and limiting itself to the US experience with slavery. Films and other forms of discussiondo not need to explore
He's popular and great in everyone else's eyes. He must be doing something right.
Actually it DOES make it less reprehensible, since the tone of movies like this makes it out to be a uniquely American issue. It's fine to say slavery was wrong, after all we abolished it for a reason, but to make American slavery out to be something special, or worthy of paticular consideration or vengeance, especially when there are far worse forms of slavery than anything we did continueing to go on right now, is something that I have a problem with.
Saying something like this happened is not the problem, but acting like it's still relevent, is a problem. The very fact that you seem to think it has anything to do with the current plight of African Americans in the US right now is one of the many problems I have with this kind of presentation. It detracts from dealing with the real issues like black counter cultures, and assimilation into society, trying to re-direct the blame onto "white america", when in reality we've done more for freed black slaves, than pretty much anyone else in history, and we've pretty much taken this from just our own domestic problems into an international human rights crusade.
See, the reason why I go off on things like this is not only because I find it personally disrespectful to the accomplishments of ending slavery (it would be one thing if people had forgotten and we had something similar happening again, but that's not the case), but also misdirection away from the actual issues that still need to be faced. While we have people wallowing in white guilt brought upon by this kind of treatment of the subject matter, the much bigger problems of human trafficking and slavery that still exist are going on. We have this entire mess that is the Middle East and Africa, and for the most part we never put the issues down there together, or ever want to get too critical with the culture(s) themselves, other than questions like "do they have nukes" or "what is the terrorist flavor of the month". Simply put these guys were the enslavers, who would have enslaved the people whether there was european demand or not, heck human trafficking continues now despite us not buying the slaves. A reminder that these are the people who were responsible then, and continue to do this crap now, would definatly be a good thing when we're already dealing with conflict with the region... not to mention brewing problems in Asia where it's also a big problem.
It's cohesive with a lot of my other politics, many of which are incredibly militant. The bottom line is simply that instead of wallowing in self guilt when we were actually the global pantywaists of the slavery racket, and more notably the guys trying to end it, we should be instead focusing our efforts on getting a lot more aggressive with the human traffickers still out there, as well as considering this in passing judgement on certain cultures being so broken for so long that they should be eradicated (which is an entirely differant discussion, this being one of many factors that have figured into some of my rants about what we should be doing abroad).
To put things into perspective, Tarantino made a blaxploitation movie where he pretty much took the most horrible isolated incidents on record, and combined them into one portrayal of what slavery was like to inspire rage and justify vengeance against an over-the-top villain.... right now if you read about some of the stuff being done by tribes in The Middle East and Africa, it makes Tarantino's excesses seem pathetic (and he was stretching) except this is real, and is happening right now. Outside of The Middle East and Africa we've had Chinese sweatshop labourers hiding pleas for help in products being sent overseas, just as far south as Mexico which is actually one of the more civilized places south of the US we've had incidents reported in articles where criminal syndicates which have taken over the goverment for all intents and purposes are boldly occupying busses, forcing the people on them to fight to the death, and then taking the winners and using them as slave soldiers in their cartel wars.
Okay sure, it wasn't nice that we bought a bunch of convicts (people taken into custody by African/Middle Eastern authorities who were the slavers) and put them to work picking our cotton and crap. All horror stories aside, it was a business, people wanted their slaves to be able to work, sadism waan't that common, and the overseers were in many cases other slaves anyway. I won't deny it sucked though... and it was wrong. We stopped it however, and decided to try and end this. That's a good thing, and right now when I see the conditions in a bloody conflict diamond mine, I think we should spend more time getting angry about that and judgemental of that culture, than beating a dead horse. We don't need to make up villains for movies like Django, when right now we've got guys far worse than anything Tarantino cooked up doing their thing.
Of course I'll also tell you exactly why we don't do anything. It's because the USA has become a group of introspective wimps who can't bring themselves to do anything. We as a people prefer to cry into our lattes nowadays and wait for th emagical "solution fairy" to hopefully appear one day and solve all the problems. It's easier to sit here and pick on ourselves so we can feel compassionate, and like we're "doing something", than it is to engage in the morally ambigious practice of doing bad things like killing hundreds of millions of people to make the world a better place in the future, and end the crap going on now... and really that is what it would take because honestly a lot of the places where this stuff happens sees it going on because it's ingrained into the culture and has thousands of tens of thousands of years worth of deadlocked inertia behind it. That's too big a problem for anyone want to deal with, so instead people like me get insulted, and everyone goes and watches "Django" so they can pat each other on the back about caring about an issue long since resolved, and entirely irrelevent, not that it was ever that bad to begin with in the big picture.
I'm not saying Django is a bad movie on it's own merits, it just doesn't deserve credit for being anything other than a blaxploitation action movie, it doesn't go anywhere paticularly new, or say anything remotely relevent.
By that standard, Michael Bay should have a mantle full of Oscars by now...
Tarantino's a good director but I get the feeling that the only reason people give him as much praise as they do is because he's Tarantino and he's awesome or something. Take his name away from it, and I wager a movie like this probably wouldn't even be considered big enough to be reviewed by Bob, let alone it getting a good review. His movies are pretty much formulaic, but it's a good formula I guess.
It's more a testament to the fact that action movies are so shitty nowadays that when a director can consistently make great R-rated action movies they're always considered to be Oscar contenders.
Apart from being an unflinching portrayal of this dark stain on American history that has not been seen outside of written literature? Dunno.
While I'm always in favour of telling african-americans to get over themselves and stop acting like all whites everywhere are responsible for slavery, there's a pretty fundamental flaw to your argument;
Two wrongs don't make a right. No amount of previous injustices ever mitigate the evil of a later one. Would you argue the Berlin Wall wasn't too bad because, after all, they were only Germans?
... Also, "black egyptian slavemaster"? Egypt was never a "black" nation. Great Zimbabwe is the greatest "black african" empire to exist, Egypt was inhabited at first by north africans (what we today would consider ethnically Semitic or Persian) and later by Greco-Europeans (Cleopatra was Greek) and today by Arabs.
It's commendable that the movie doesn't attempt to sugarcoat slavery and shows it for how brutal it really is. But why should guilt come along with it? Why should you be expected to feel bad for sins you didn't commit? What irks me even more about this is the fact that it's always when Africans are involved; as if to say what America did to them is the worst sin in the history of the country. Never mind the fact that America is responsible for conquering the indigenous peoples; slaughtering thousands all so they can claim the land as their own. Never mind the fact that America bombed civilian locations killing thousands in the initial explosions while countless others died of radiation poisoning and injuries. All of that is rarely if ever touched upon. If it is it never comes with the same pathos that anything having to do with slavery or black oppression does.
It's like the Resident Evil 5 racism scandal. No one gave two shits when a white dude was killing infected Spanish villagers but the moment it's a white dude killing infected African villagers, suddenly it's racist.
The idea of white guilt or expecting whites to feel guilty is inherently racist in itself and only helps to keep racism and racial stereotypes alive. The movie should be celebrated for being an unflinching look at a brutal period in American history and allowing introspection about the history of the US and the sins its fathers committed. But it shouldn't be praised for making people feel guilty about having a certain skin color. "You're white you should loathe yourself for what your people did" is a little unnecessary.
An unflinching portrayal of this dark stain on American history that has not been seen outside of written literature would instead focus on the everyday actions and inaction of everyday people that allows for the triumph of evil. Quentin Tarantino should really quit his dabbling in historical revisionism. Re-imagining these historical events in a fictional context as the result of the actions of extraordinarily evil caricatures fails to reflect the mundane, ordinary face of evil.
Ultimately, it will prove to be unhelpful.
Best comment ever!
To be fair to Django (1966) it did have faux KKK as Antagonists during the first act (who hated Mexican and Django was a "Half Bred") before the film devolved into a Yojimbo/Fistful of Dollars plot. And one of Quentin's other favorite films is Soldier Blue which used the western genre to comment on the Slaughter of American Indians in what at the time were considered extremely graphic scenes.
DUC is not without precedent if you are aware of Tarantino's influences (intimately not just ostensibly). From the review the film sounds pretty close to how I would picture it.
I was mostly retaliating against the way Therumancer uses the golden rationalisations and relative virtue to fallaceously absolve America's past.
You at least have a cogent argument against the way Tarantino portrays history. I agree an adaptation of something like 'Huckleberry Finn' or 'The Longest Memory' by Fred D'Aguiar would probably promote more understanding.
Well, speaking for myself I felt The Berlin Wall was a good thing. Germany basically made two attempts to take over the world, and had developed some truely frightening technology which we were in the process of divvying up with the Russians. Contrary to the Hollywood version, the Nazis were not some tiny minority within Germany, that somehow still managed to be omnipresent, and there was the issue of Germany's international influance and the alliances it managed to pull together both before and during the war, and the rather ambigious nature of some of the allies who were as much fair weather friends as anything. Simply put, I pretty much feel that keeping Germany split in half forever and never letting it regain it's feet would have been appropriate. As things stand now, I consider Germany's rapid recovery into a world power, especially economically, so quickly after the wall went down rather frightening. I don't care how much remorse they might claim for the World Wars, I personally do not trust them as a nation, and probably never will. As it is, I kind of depressingly notice that for every case of them removing all the Swatstikas from "Lego Indiana Jones" out of shame, it seems that someone manages to find some really "rocking" German Death Metal and innocently queries "wow man, why are the Germans so much better at this than everyone else?". Of course I am a militant at heart. While we should have let Germany re-unite eventually, the 80s were too soon (one of the few things I disagreed with Reagan on). I think we needed to keep them divided a few human generations at least, at least until nobody born during the baby boom after the war was still alive at any rate. Yes, it was mean, it divided families, it damaged their culture, etc... but that's kind of the point as far as I'm concerned. We should have waited for Germany to be broken before we pulled the wall down, shattered enough where this kind of immediate recovery wasn't going to happen. I know the reasons for the wall with the USSR, and what was said publically, but to me the idea was to ensure Germany would never be powerful again after two global wars. Right now Germany might not have a military like it did before, but economically speaking it's an absolute beast, and there are more kinds of power than military, I don't like Germany having any kind of weight in global affairs, at all.
Also, yes, I do believe that previous injustices do mitigate further ones. There is a point where you just have to get over it though. In the context of this discussion I think that QQing about slavery in the US is a problem because not only is it over with, but the guys who did it also ended slavery. We were also probably some of the nicest (comparitively speaking) slave owners ever. We could have justified keeping slavery alive forever by way of payback and being the most astronomically cruel bastards ever by way of payback and we would have just been square... we didn't though, we ended it, and have been trying to end it on a global scale. That's why it pisses me off when people want to continue to harp on this like it's somehow relevent, when even at it's worst it's nothing compare to crap going on right now in other parts of the world.
See, also the complaints about American slavery fuel the counter cultures which are holding back minorities in the US. Adding validity to "hey, your owed for how badly wronged your people were" which hardly speeds assimilation into mainstream culture.
Simply put, this isn't a forgotten issue, so there should be no real reason to throw it out there. Just let it take it's place as a historical footnote and move on.
"Roots", "Amistadt" [SP], we've been here before in the media. It's a fairly popular thing for people to drag up to get some quick contreversy. It's not like this is something people forgot about.
That said, my point isn't so much that the movie was made, it's that it receives any kind of Kudos for it, when it's just a generic violence "Blaxploitation" movie trying to use a really over the top version of historical events to justify the violence. While a decent movie on it's own, you can't say it carries any real menaing on the subject or has any redeeming value because of it. At the end of the day it's just an excuse to have a black dude shoot a bunch of white guys and be 'edgy' because of it.
Tarantino doesn't deserve a whole lot of credit for this one.
More accuratly I don't think the USA needs to be absolved at all. The most notable thing about slavery in the USA is that we ended it, and then have been trying to end it on a global stage, as I've said before.
Trying to portray the USA's slavery as something unusually terrible is kind of ridiculous, but it's a grindhouse movie, so that's kind of forgivable. My problem is people like you and Bob acting like this movie has some kind of weight to it, when really it was probably some of Tarantino's worst work, pretty much a blaxploitation flick, trying to come up with an excuse to justify a black guy killing a bunch of white dudes, and thus being 'edgy' and 'contreversial' because of it. It doesn't merit praise, or even derision, just a basic "meh" since it's a pretty average movie.
If you wanted to have the movie carry meaning, and actually go somewhere new, then Django should have gone back to Africa to gun down a bunch of slavers and such there and fighting the trade from that end. That's something that hasn't really been done before, and would show a better understanding of the subject matter. Not to mention being a little more relevent to today, since that's where a lot of the current human trafficking still goes on.
More white-washing
Most other Western countries also abolished slavery long that time and in their colonies around that time. Being one of the last doesn't make American slavers any less vile than those of other countries.
As is trying to justify it using morally fallacious arguments involving golden rationalisation and relative virtue.
My problem with people like you is you dismissal of US slavery as something minor using golden rationalisation and relative virtue.
No, you would have that happen because you are uncomfortable with southern whites slave owners carrying their fair share of the blame for the slave trade.
If they hadn't demanded slaves in the New World the slave trade wouldn't have reached the extent that it did. But no, you want to blame the enslavement of black africans on other black africans, not the people that demanded black africans to exploit.
Note that I don't think that North africans shouldn't also shoulder blame.
Even if it were going to be playing where I live, I don't think I'll be giving money to Mr. Jaime "Our Lord and Savior" Foxx.
Before anyone immediately calls, "Ohai butthurt Christian", I'm not a Christian, butthurt or otherwise. I just find that kind of cultish idolatry very offputting, and reserve my right in a free market not to support its purveyors.
Man, why the Bane hate?
I get that you didn't like Batman, Bob, but you're just trying to rile up the fans who did like it now. It's crass, and it came out of nowhere in the middle of an otherwise fine review.
you didn't even really make a joke, it was just "Bane sucked! On with the review."
So you're admitting that your entire schtick is based on the fact you're a bigot. Well, that was a whole minute wasted typing up a reply, give or take five seconds for this second one.
It's not "white washing" or anything of the sort. Just the simple facts. You are just so in love with the idea that you don't care about any point demonstrating how stupid it is, and need to find any lopsided way you can to try and dismiss a point you don't like. Never let the truth get in the way of a good rant. :)
Truthfully I think you've gotten so fixated on argueing with me, you've long since lost sight of what your argueing against, which is why your getting thrashed, not that anything other than a debate was going to come out of the internet. You keep having to stretch futher and further.
For example, what are we argueing about here? Here is a hint. It's not slavery. It's about whether "Django" is a profound and praiseworth effort for approaching this forgotten and taboo subject, or a very average blaxploitation movie that has nothing paticularly original or profound to say on the subject. See, on most levels you've already lost by your own arguements, as pretty much everything you say is "known" pretty much means "Django" loses more and more points so to speak.
That said, you REALLY need to do some research, I mean big time. I hate to tell you this but slaving in Africa and The Middle East didn't come due to demand by europeans for slaves. Rather they were enslaving people there as a way of life, and it was simply a product that was exploited. The interest of Europeans neither expanded the market, or reduced it when they stopped taking slaves. Indeed human trafficking exists to a substantial degree all throughout that region much to the outcry of human rights groups.
To be honest slaves were simply a way of making money on the last part of a voyage. Do some reading about the "Trade Winds" and the triangle traders used to run. Slaves were simply something for them to load given the lack of anything else of value in the region so they wouldn't have empty holds on the way back. There weren't really that many dedicated slave ships, contrary to mythology, most were just traders which hung up some chains in their holds for the last leg, which is why the conditions were so deplorable. A lot of money could be made from slaves, but not so much that many people ran that as a dedicated path, this is one of the reasons why slaves were so expendable, unless the ship had failed to make a reasonable profit on the other legs of the trip. The ship would pretty much run the winds in the same directions, around and around in a gigantic circle doing the routes.
Yes, europeans DID exploit Africans and Arabs willing enslave each other, but had no real part in encouraging it as the slave trade was both establishing long before their involvement (and before there was civilization in Europe) and continues on until this day.
As far as the fault of Southern Slave Owners, well consider these guys DID wind up having their lands and fortunes destroyed. The South was pretty much devestated after The Civil War. The slaves were intentionally freed in the most irresponsible way in history so they would go crazy and level the infrastructure, with the Yanks using black soldiers disguised as slaves to make surgical strikes against hold outs and such.
It's not like people just said "your free" and after that war The South just went back to business as usual. The guys who were responsible got their butts pretty badly kicked, and then continued to be kicked while they were down.
See, there isn't any real social commentary or anything in Django, it's all about trying to be edgy with the black on white violence, with the slave thing just being an excuse, rather than any kind of an important point. It's neither accurate, or something that was glossed over.
If you wanted to be profound with the statement, having Django go back to Africa to kill the people who enslaved him (or his parents) would be, simply because that's something you generally don't see. The whole "white slave owners were da evil" is pretty much "duh" territory by modern sensibilities, and counter culture keeps the memory alive for political gain to the point where it's not like anyone forgot. There is literally nothing at all profound or worth of praise about this movie, it's an over the top "grindhouse" version of slavery (not accurate as mentioned, but meant to be over the top), with a lot of over the top gunslinging and fighting (at times). A pretty typical Tarantino movie overall, but without his usual intellectual touches since that's missing from the premise. You can say it's a pretty average move... good guy, bad guy, bad things, much violence. But nothing special to make it stand out as "OMG, this is so special because of the subject matter". Truthfully "Roots" covered a lot of the same material if you just want a condemnation of slavery (and that's the movie that arguably launched Levarr Burton, who aside from his role as Laforge was also insturmental in directing a lot of Trek episodes and such through DS-9, and thus worthy of being a subject of geekly worship).
On some things I am indeed a bigot, that said I don't really consider this one of them. Two attempts to take over the world in one century is enough for me. I don't feel it's bigoted at all to think there should be repercussions for that, since this is something Germany actually did. Dividing the country up and rendering it irrelevent is NOT a nice thing, and pretty bloody extreme, but so are the reasons. It's not a situation where I think simple sanctions were sufficient, and to be honest I don't think having trust issues is unreasonable after that.
Look at the amount of money going through Germany right now, and the amount of economic power it has. During this global recession it seems to be weathering the storm fairly well compared to most other countries. I imagine as time goes on, especially with the climate the way it is, Germany is just going to become economically stronger, banking and such has always kind of been their thing.
You might trust them, I personally think it's too soon. In this case I think it's more cautious than bigoted. Culturally speaking germany has always been very, very, powerful. I don't see germany as being inferior to the US so much as I see a threat. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, but cripes... do we really want to go
No-one said it did. Slavery has been around for thousands of years. But do you really think that demand doesn't affect supply?
Which brings me to your next point:
I'd really like to see your evidence for this one.
Then again you're the sort of person who thinks that "documentries" on the Discovery channel are proof that the Mayans predicted the end of the world in 2012, and that your experience as a casino security guard gives you evidence that all homosexuals are potential paedophiles.
The Spill guys have shitty taste in movies
May I just observe that there are a disturbing number of people, both on the board and IRL, who seem to believe in the concept of bloodline guilt; one of the savage tendencies of humanity that we ought to be quit of to be called "civilized"?
It's comments like these that make me think Poe was right in the house of usher. People seem to be unable to escape the baggage from our ancestors past, then let it define us.
It's one thing to say that white americans should be held accountable for the actions of their ancestors, and another to make them admit that their ancestors were horrible, horrible people. What this movie does is the latter.
I will certainly go see this film when it comes out here in Sweden. However, I wanted to bring up that the Spill Crew (who very frequently disagree with Bob) didn't care much for the film. Their criticisms of the film were - among others - that it was widely uneven in terms of tone, that the N-word was overused in a way that just felt exploitative, that the characters played by Kerry Washington and Samuel L. Jackson were uninteresting. They said that people are letting all these problems with the film slide just because it's directed by Quentin Tarantino. One of the reviewers, Martin "Leon" Thomas, was so offended by the film that he no longer wanted to be a member of the Austin Film Critics Association, because he didn't want his name in an organization who would recommend a movie like this for everyone to see.
Anyway, this is their video review:
Here's their audio review, which is much longer:
And this is a podcast in which one of the reviewers, Korey Coleman, discusses the film with his fans via phonecall (I haven't listened to this one yet for fear of spoilers):
Anyway, what do you guys think of their opinion of the film?
yes, bane is undefeated.
Your whole post reeks of sciolism and historical inaccuracy, but that part's truly hilarious. What the hell has Death Metal got to do with anything? You think they're good at making music because they have "experience" killing people? (Also, in case you'd like to know, removing the swastikas has less to do with shame than the fact that Nazi symbols are banned in Germany.)
So the basic premise is "black Punisher goes up against Hazama's slave owning great great great grandad." I want to see this movie SO bad. This has been a good year for violent works that have some meaning to them huh? Stuff like this, Zero Dark 30 and Spec Ops show we can talk about serious things in action films and games.
On a side note, how long before someone tries to get this film banned for saying anything about America that doesn't amount to "EMERICUH FOK YEH!"?
By that logic, Justin Bieber is one of the greatest musical artists and performers in history.
I'm just sayin', popularity is not an accurate metric for quality.
I mostly agree with it. I think they harped a bit too much on the overuse of the word "nigger", but I agreed with everything else. Essentially, it was a decent to good film with a few awkwardly paced sections and some other bits feeling disjointed.
It was by no means a bad film, not even by any stretch of the imagination. However, I'm not sold on it being one of the "best" films of the year.
Even so, some of the performances were amazing. Especially Foxx and DiCaprio. However, Jackson's was a tad dull and Taratino's "cameo" was awkward.
Compared to what? Movie Bobs?
The same Movie Bob that openly defends Sucker Punch as a decent film?
Joking aside, neither the Spill crew nor Movie Bob have "shitty taste" in films. Taste, by it's nature, can't be "shitty". It's opinion. Opinion is subjective.
You know, this is probably true. If someone would just step in, once in a while, during filming to keep him from going off-the-rails, I'd probably be able to agree with some in seeing him as one of the best directors in the industry. One of my biggest complaints with many of his films is his tendency to over-indulge in some of his more pretentious eccentricities; of which often led to his films feeling uneven.
That's all he needs. Someone to say, "No Quentin. No."
(that and to lay off the coke a bit)
Since I'm done with my other arguements (mentioned I was withdrawing, and now the newly created troll accounts are appearing to egg me on.. soo) I thought I'd address this.
For all the things I disagree with Bob on, he seems to approach this from a very specific angle, that's hard to disagree with. Ask yourself what the differance between Bane, and say Red Skull and Loki (just to use the other super villains) is? The answer is simply that The Red Skull and Loki were played well, and very much like the comic characters. The actors stepped into the role of an existing character and played it to the hilt and were able to convince you that they were a well known super villain, more or less as you'd expect them to be. Bane in comparison isn't anything like his comics counterpart, he doesn't look like him, doesn't act like him, and is carrying an agenda that isn't even a Bane-type plot. Bane also doesn't belong there as a movie villain, because he's not the villain, he's the henchman OF the villain who doesn't appear until the end of the final act (I won't give any spoilers for the moment).
I'll also say something you rarely hear from me, but a lot from Bob. The character was also "white washed". See, I go off about cases where it's not true, or being read into or projected onto something, but I don't agree with changing the ethnicity of established characters. All of the things I said about changing Heimdall's ethnicity, or using Nick Fury's "Ultimate" counterpart, or whatever else apply here in reverse. Bane is one of the cooler Latino super villains out there, the fact that he's spanish, wears the Lunchadore mask, and got tough in the south of the border third world are all part of what makes the character who he is. Turning him into a big, muscular, white dude with a british accent is absolutly stupid.
I get that the Nolanverse was taking certain liberties with characters to make them a bit more realistic (as hard pressed as I am to use that term), but where the essence of most of the Batman rogue's gallery survived, Bane wasn't anything like "Bane" he was just some big, muscular, kung-fu guy in a scary mask. It was the kind of role that might have once been played by Bolo Yeung in kung-fu movies. Entertaining as a villain, creates jeopardy for the hero, but the thing is this is supposed to be an iconic character.
Now, I'm not saying that "Dark Knight Rises" was a bad movie, or anything of the sort. Just like I don't say "Thor" was a bad movie for changing Heimdall's ethnicity or anything. I'm not even saying Bane didn't fit well into that movie. However when your doing a comparison of the best movie villains of the year, along with two actors who were able to play their character as it was created (the sign of acting abillity) as opposed to more or less having something written specifically around him, Bane *does* fall short... even if you liked "his" movie overall. On top of that, as I pointed out above, Bane isn't the villain of the movie, he doesn't belong on villain lists. He's a henchman, an attack dog. I won't say more about it for spoiler reasons though. In the comics he's a villain in his own right, here he is not.
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Charles K. Edwards had been allowed to quietly resign as acting inspector general and transfer to another post within the Homeland Security Department in December, just before Johnson took office. But after Johnson reviewed the 27-page report from a Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs oversight subcommittee Thursday he put Edwards on leave.
Johnson's quick response was at least his third move to tamp down what could have been political scandals, and stands in marked contrast to the leadership style of his predecessor, Janet Napolitano, who on several occasions allowed problems to fester until they become unavoidable entanglements.
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Thursday's suspension came within hours of a report that concluded that Edwards was not only politically influenced, but wasn't qualified for his job. The report said that he also lacked the independence required of an inspector general.
Edwards' internal transfer was announced just days before he was scheduled to testify before the Senate oversight subcommittee about the allegations.
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|August 17, 2012, 12:44 PM
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My PDF Template For Writing Lawmakers Simplified
I'm an avid letter writer to my state's lawmakers in the House of Representatives and U.S. Senate. Normally I would write each letter from scratch; however, I decided a couple of weeks ago that I would put together a pdf template that would streamline and partially automate the process. So far, I haven't found any threads/posts in the forum where members post their letters or templates, if there is and I've overlooked it, then perhaps we can add this to it. As it is now, all this is really only focused on the federal level and not the state level, though it still may be of use. Also, I have no idea how one would write a compelling letter to a legislator who is an Anti. If you don't either, then just send them this one. Any letter is better than no letter, regardless if they will listen or not.
Ultimately, I am hoping this might make the truly important task of ensuring our lawmakers protect our rights a little more efficient, convenient, and less time consuming. This template is for everyone but my main focus is to help facilitate activism from those who DO care about the 2A but don't know how to write lawmakers or those who genuinely struggle to find the time to sit down and flesh out a well worded and compelling letter (not that I claiming mine is any better); then have to find a lawmaker's addresses, print out clean looking envelops, etc.... I'm hoping to get them active and to add even more voices to our collective identity. The template is at the bottom.
I have two main objectives I hope to achieve in this post.
1) I want thoughts on improvements and additional eyes to proof read for errors. The biggest areas to critique are:
- Punctuation (I am particularly uncertain about my skills here)
- Any current or upcoming Federal level bills that I may not have addressed
- Testing the template's functionality and usability (ie missing fields, wrong tab order, printing mishaps, formatting error, character type issues, or ANYTHING that doesn't seem to work right.)
2) Just to simply get it out there and get more people active as well as to make it all easier for everybody.
I've never used Adobe Acrobat Pro nor have I ever designed a proper pdf document so I was learning on the fly. We've all seen some slick looking pdf forms....this will not be one of those. Don't bother telling me it looks crude. The end result is all that matters. The result will look simple but will also be proper. Admittedly, I pushed the limit of proper line spacing so that the body would fit on one page, but I'm already aware of it. Almost every text field can be edited so that you are free to rewrite or omit fields as you see fit.
Several fields are linked to others. Doing this allows the envelop to be automatically generated as you begin filling out the first few text fields. If you change one of those fields then the linked field will be changed also. Lastly, the buttons at the top and blue text "Zipcode" will not print. They are visible but not printable. The links at the top are for quickly finding info on who your legislator is, their mailing address, and their position on firearms.
I'll be using this template for myself regardless, so as I create more letters in the future I'll post those too. That way, anyone who is satisfied with what I have written can use it as their own.
Ummmm....well shucks, I can't think of anything else. I'm sure I forgot or overlooked something. If so, just let me know. Also, I'm out of work at the moment and in the middle of an aggressive job search campaign so if I'm a day or two slow in responding that's why. Sorry but I have a thing for bacon and need to start bringing some home.
Something to keep in mind:
Letter writing from only the individual may have no impact by itself, but the collective voice of a great number DOES HAVE AN SIGNIFICANT IMPACT and does influence the laws that govern our lives and of those we love. Don't EVER feel discouraged, belittled, insignificant, or think that you are a letter writing nobody. You ARE important! YOU ARE IMPORTANT to you, YOU ARE IMPORTANT to your friends and family, YOU ARE IMPORTANT to all of us, and YOUR LETTERS ARE IMPORTANT to the rights and liberties that are worth what it cost to attain them and are certainly worth what it will cost to retain them.
I hope this template helps everyone out. I look forward to any input you all may have. Take care everyone, be safe, have fun, and make it a good day.
- GeeJ
I'm still unsure as to how smoothly the envelop printing process will go but everything else works as it should. This is a work in progress
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|August 17, 2012, 06:51 PM
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Here's a start. Remember, you asked, and I have worked as a paid editor and proofreader.
Address line: You misspelled both "Representative" and "Senator."
RE: "Defending the 2nd Amendment and That of Life" -- What the heck does this mean? What is "That of Life"?
Salutation line: You again misspelled "Representative" and "Senator."
First paragraph: "My concern deepens even more ..." The "even more" is redundant and unnecessary. You have not yet stated that your deep concern deepens at all, so how can it deepen "even further"?
First paragraph: I don't think you should refer to a "recent cluster of shootings." There is no "cluster." There have been a few, isolated instances in widely separated locations around the country. The fact that one of them resulted in a high casualty count does not make the several shootings a "cluster." I'd suggest the last sentence could read: "The current media bias in favor of more gun control rather than more crime control, is nothing more than a knee jerk reaction to a few isolated, widely separated instances of troubled individuals who acted out their psychoses.
Third paragraph, third line: "..., and proven many times ..." The word "and" doesn't belong. How about "as has been proven ..."?
Third paragraph, end: Omit the last three words. End with "... our 2nd Amendment rights."
Fourth paragraph: Omit "truly." If the number is overwhelming, it doesn't need your "truly" to make it MORE overwhelming. At the second appearance of "truly" in the same sentence, I would use "necessary."
Fourth paragraph, second sentence: I have no idea what this is intended to say but, wghatever it is, it doesn't say it.
Last paragraph: "Loud" action? "Faultier"?
|August 17, 2012, 07:32 PM
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LOL!! This is not how I expected my post to go in the very beginning ...ha ha!
Yes, I did ask and you are EXACTLY the kind of person I was hoping would proof read it. And I really do appreciate you putting in the time to reply with revisions. I am far from being a skilled writer but sheesh!! Perhaps I need to reevaluate the spell check that I'm using because I'm feel a bit silly at this point :-)
Regardless, I will hop right in and make those changes. Perhaps I can salvage what I'm trying to achieve here. Again I appreciate the revisions and your input, seriously.
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We're going to Sticky this one for awhile.
GeeJ, please do make those corrections.
I personally suggest that people write their own coherent, well-thought out, logical letters, but using a well-written form letter that we'll have here after its corrected is also effective, I'm told by those who have been there.
Thank you for your effort sir,
Even if it didn't past muster with editor.
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|August 17, 2012, 09:00 PM
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I'm almost done making those revisions plus a few functional changes. I'm going to send them to Aguila just to make sure nothing else was missed. After that, I was thinking I might restart this thread since they're really hasn't been a lot of views & replies yet.
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"Many hands make light work," and many eyes make good editing. Please do NOT finalize this based on only my input.
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You've kept it at five paragraphs, which is great. However, look at using shorter, more concise sentences.
Most representatives aren't reading this. Their overworked interns and receptionists are. They're going to skim over it, and it needs to catch their attention quickly if it's to stand out from all the other stuff they get.
This is a great idea, and if we're critical, it's because we want you to be successful!
Consider posting the text in the form of a post here, so we can make edits as we go.
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|August 17, 2012, 11:02 PM
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I certainly welcome constructive criticism. It doesn't really bother me. I see it as an opportunity to learn & improve so feel free to speak your mind.
At the moment, the body of the letter (for this one) has been vastly improved. Tip of the hat to you, Aguila, thank you. Feel free to play around with it however you like. The most important thing is that more people start writing more letters.
I find myself deeply concerned for the safety and security of our nation's 2nd Amendment rights. I am also troubled by the recent wave of gun control bills being brought forth for legislation. The current media bias in favor of more gun control rather more crime control is nothing more than a knee jerk reaction to a few isolated, widely separated instances of troubled individuals who acted out their psychoses.
Further limiting Americans' constitutional liberties as a means of placating this emotional, yet irrational, social inertia being generated by the few, would result in the cumulative damage of far more lives by criminal elements unaffected and further empowered by such laws.
Restrictions and/or bans on magazines, carry licensing, online sales of ammunition, and semi-automatic sporting and/or self defense firearms will have absolutely no impact in stopping a committed person from carrying out a plan, as has been proven many times over in countries with a total weapons ban. Undoubtedly, none of the proposed measures would have changed a thing....nor will they in the future. I strongly implore you to act against all proposed bills that would further limit our 2nd Amendment rights.
An overwhelming number of gun owners and licensed carriers are honest, law-abiding citizens, and are voters who exercise discretion, reason, compassion, and an aversion to force unless necessary to defend life. These are the people that will be adversely affected and who will be limited in the defense their lives, their families, and those of the equally law abiding. Even those who fight against the 2nd Amendment, still deserve to have their rights preserved and protected should they feel otherwise in the future.
The most important focal point is the protection of life. The emotional sentiment of the willingly irrational would restrict the protection of life, if not criminalize it. Please stand by all of us who believe life is worth defending by opposing any action against the 2nd Amendment. The majority of America is behind you.
Most Sincerely,
|August 18, 2012, 12:04 AM
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Much better. I'd suggest dropping the second paragraph altogether, as you make your point well and factually in the third. Furthermore, don't stoop to criticizing the opposition. Assert that the facts speak for themselves, and that you are in the right.
I find myself deeply concerned for the safety and security of our 2nd Amendment rights. I am also troubled by the recent wave of gun control bills being brought forth for legislation.
Restrictions and bans on magazines, carry licensing, online sales of ammunition, and semi-automatic firearms will have absolutely no impact in stopping a committed person from carrying out a plan. In these cases, none of the proposed measures would have changed a thing....nor will they do so in the future.
[You might want to point out that the Assault Weapons Ban had no measurable effect on crime, and that there was no increase in crime following its expiration]
An overwhelming number of gun owners and licensed carriers are honest, law-abiding citizens, and are voters who exercise discretion, reason, compassion, and an aversion to force unless necessary to defend life. These are the people who will be adversely affected.
The most important focal point is the protection of life. Restrictions on the 2nd Amendment restrict, and even criminalize, the protection of life. Please stand by all of us who believe life is worth defending by opposing any action against the 2nd Amendment. The majority of America is behind you.
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|August 19, 2012, 12:39 PM
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Excellent point. I couldn't agree with you more. Since the template is now proofed, people can use it as a starting point in wording it to reflect their personal voice. The entire pdf is editable and can be rewritten to suit anyone's needs.
At the moment, I am out of work and my job search consumes almost all of my time all my time. Unfortunately, it's not producing any results, but that's neither here nor there. The only part of the template that I anticipate having to go back and figure out is the envelope print out. My printer is broken so I couldn't test it myself.
Has anybody tried printing? If so, has anyone experienced issues.....issues of any kind?
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I just did a quick once-over. I have just a few suggestions.
First paragraph: Your first paragraph refers to "the current media bias in favor of more gun control rather more crime control . . . " That should read "the current media bias in favor of more gun control rather than more crime control . . . "
Second paragraph: You have an extra comma after the word "few" that needs to be removed.
Third: Change the first sentence from "Restrictions and/or" to read "Restrictions on . . . " As it stands, you have "and/or" appearing twice in the same sentence. For that matter, I'd get repace and/or simply with "or." Get rid of the "and" before "semi-automatic."
Fourth: " . . . . defense of their lives . . . . " Strike the comma after "Amendment."
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|October 6, 2012, 01:03 AM
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In the first line of the address block, "Senator" is spelled "Sanator."
See Spats McGee's comment (above) regarding the first paragraph. It hasn't been fixed yet.
FWIW, I think this is a commendable idea. A long time ago I either read or was told by a friend who used to work as a legislative aide that there is a definite hierarchy to constituent comments. Phone calls count for the least. Faxes and e-mails (and pre-printed form letters that you just sign) count for little more than a phone call. But a real, live LETTER, that you wrote or typed on real paper and put into an envelope, and bought a stamp for -- those count for a lot.
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Template Update 12-14-2012
It's been awhile since I've been back. My job search has kept me very busy and very distracted. After hearing about these two most recent shootings, I wanted to take moment to make sure this template is still squared away. Spats and Aguila.....I've included your corrections. Also, it looks as though I cannot edit the attachment on my original post.......
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|January 17, 2013, 12:19 AM
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Perhaps this might help someone to quickly reach your representatives.
Here is a tool, which allows you to quickly send your comments to your state and/or federal representatives.
You can choose E-mail or send a printed letter
You can say what you want. It's not so "form-lettery."
I used it to send the following thoughts:
Honorable Statesman,
Recent events have once again brought sadness to this country as dozens found injury and death at the hands of monsters. While I suffer the emotions just as my fellow Americans do, I recognize that over one million American soldiers have died protecting the human rights recognized in the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. I realize it is popular among some groups these days to refer to these revered documents as "just another piece of paper," but I assure that I am not one of those people, nor do I call friend any who would think such of writings which were the foundation of our country.
My father, fighting for our country, sought to protect our rights as so many have through history. Now some statesmen try to erase with a vote or other questionable actions some of the human rights which tyrants of history have been unable to destroy by force. It must not be allowed to happen.
Statesmen like numbers and I respect that since I understand numbers too. For instance there are about 350 million people in the USA. That is a big number and it means that about 12000 new Americans are born each and every day of the year which is a little over 4 million each year. That fact makes it difficult for an enemy to easily defeat us, as does our second amendment right to keep and bear arms without fear of infringement from our own government.
Respectfully I ask that you remember these things when groups ask you to take a human right from us, especially one which was established and protected by our Founding Fathers and by the blood of patriots throughout the history of our country.
Thank you for your time and consideration in reading this.
|January 17, 2013, 04:44 PM
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a copy of my letter to my senator & representatives...
I hope you are not swayed by the new gun bans / magazine capacity reductions, & crazy new regulations proposed by our east coast friends... unfortunately, none of these are going to bring back the dead, or have any effect on future horrific events...
I feel that we as a society are sick, we have kids that can't hardly work, as they ate "happy meals" their whole lives, & never got the nutrition they needed as they developed ( I run a manufacturing plant in Albert Lea ) I've seen 1st hand, these young kids coming into the work force, with bad joints, & no muscle mass... they end up unemployed & sitting home all day playing video games where they kill people, often these games are quite graphic... I think there is an "auto game" where it's required that you run over & kill 2 police officers to move up to the next level... when I had one young guy tell me this, I was horrified, yet he saw nothing wrong with it... these young people are growing up in homes with a single parent, & seem to be lacking role models, & not attending a church...
Unfortunately I don't think the "tools" are the problem... if someone was determined to kill more school kids than the last guy, he need only buy an old station wagon, sit parked a block from school, & wait for the buses to line up... I'm quite certain, by punching the gas, at the right ( wrong ) time, that person could in effect kill way more kids... it would be crazy to ban old station wagons...
So...I hope you'll be progressive in helping find a cure for the sickness our society has come down with, lack of morality, lack of spirituality, & not punish legal, moral, working persons of our society...
BTW... I am a fire arms enthusiast, but rarely shoot anything semi auto, so I doubt I really have a "dog in this fight", other than I know our American RIGHTS are being trampled on, & I do understand that some concessions may need to be made, but pushing paperwork through so fast, that all members are not allowed to vote, & by not including people that at least understand the legal limits, & the correct terms of what was being banned or regulated, they've only un-necessarily taxed our legal system, & complicated it for regulatory personnel
I hope that the great state of Minnesota can remain a great place to live & work, & grow business, & not get caught up in needlessly punishing the 99.9% that would never do the things these others have done to punish society or their mothers, or get their name in the news, or whatever possible motivation they might have for justifying their totally unsocial agendas
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The Germany forward scored the opening goal in the Bundesliga clash at the weekend before teeing up the Roten skipper to cross for Mario Mandzukic to seal the win, and his team-mate is delighted with the 23-year-old's form.
"His timing is always great. You never know what he will do, but you only need to look at his stats - the number of goals he's scored, the number of assists he's provided," he told Kicker.
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I kept watching but I kept not really liking it and hoped something would "catch." Never did. Except the ED; somehow I kept liking that and it would even go through my head at various random times during the week.. So was that really the last episode? Pretty lackluster, but not surprising given the rest of the show.
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This is pretty much how I thought of this series too ---> http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/red-data-girl/episodes-1
I agree. Keys review was pretty well done. I rate it a bit higher and gave my reasons in the comments over there. My full review will be in my blog soon, as well.
Picked this back up since I'm sad about running out of things to watch as the season is ending. And I just wanted to say that THE SHOUJO IS STRONG WITH THIS ONE. More than any other anime I can remember watching, anyway.
The background animation is quite pretty though, especially when they're visiting temples and shrines and things. And I also definitely feel better about Miyuki's character. I was rather furious with him at first, but now he's just a rose bush.
Not used to seeing guys as tsunderes that much I guess. XD
My only real gripe so far is I have a hard time reconciling Izumiko Suzuhara with her seiyuu (Saori Hayami). Something about it doesn't seem to sit right. But I'm so used to her being Miho Azuki in Bakuman, maybe it's just dissociative.
Edit: Actually, if I think of RDG being in the Bakuman universe and Miho Azuki being the seiyuu, it helps.
I liked it, but it suffered from poor pacing and development. The animation, without question, was excellent. This is definitely a shoujo since the main point and focus is on Izumiko's relationships. My problem is that I didn't feel her growth was especially believable, especially her ultimate "fate".
I could see it being a pain to watch in installments, but it was very smooth to marathon. When I got to the end I was surprised I'd just finished the entire cour, I haven't been able to marathon much of anything that easily recently.
I thought episode 8 looked especially good.
Her character development was pretty fast when it finally came, but I just went with it.


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"He's an obsessive football fan" - "she's obsessive about shoes"
- "he's a compulsive liar". We use these expressions when we talk
about people who do something again and again, even when others
can't see any reason for it. It isn't usually a problem and, in
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think certain things repeatedly can dominate your life
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you could have Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD).
Liz "I'm afraid of
catching something from other people. I spend hours bleaching all
the surfaces in my house to stop the germs, and wash my hands many
times each day. I try not to go out of the house if possible. When
my husband and children come back home, I ask them in great detail
where they have been, in case they have visited somewhere
dangerous, like a hospital. I also make them take off all their
clothes, and wash themselves thoroughly. Part of me realises these
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John "My whole day is
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I've turned off all the electrical appliances like the cooker, and
locked all the windows. Then I check to see that the gas fire is
off five times, but if it doesn't feel right I have to do the whole
thing again. In the end, I ask my partner to check it all for me
again anyway. At work I am always behind as I go through everything
several times in case I have made a mistake. If I don't check I
feel so worried I can't bear it. Its ridiculous I know, but I think
if something awful did happen, I'd be to blame".
Dawn "I fear I will
harm my baby daughter. I know I don't want to, but bad thoughts
keep coming into my head. I can picture myself losing control and
stabbing her with a knife. The only way I can get rid of these
ideas is to say a prayer, and then have a good thought such as "I
know I love her very much". I usually feel a bit better after that,
until the next time those awful pictures come into my head. I have
hidden away all sharp objects and knives in my house. I think to
myself "you must be a horrible mother to think like this. I must be
going mad".
What you think (obsessions)
The anxiety you feel (emotions)
What you do (compulsions)
About 1 in every 50 people suffer from OCD at some point in
their lives, men and women equally. That adds up to over 1
million people in the U.K. Famous sufferers may have included the
biologist Charles Darwin, the pioneer nurse, Florence Nightingale,
the actress Cameron Diaz, and the soccer player David Beckham.
No. The words 'compulsive' and 'obsessive' are sometimes used to
describe people who gamble, drink alcohol, shop, use street drugs –
or even exercise too much. However, these behaviours can be
pleasurable. The compulsions in OCD never give pleasure – they are
always felt as an unpleasant demand or burden.
It varies a lot, but work, relationships and family life are all
more productive and satisfying if you are not constantly having to
cope with OCD. Severe OCD can make it impossible to work regularly,
to take part in family life – or even to get on with your family.
In particular, they may become upset if you try to involve them in
your rituals.
No - but you may be reluctant to seek
help if you think that others will think you are mad. It's common
to feel ashamed or try to hide this problem. Although you may worry
that you will lose control, we know that people with OCD don't.
Many children have mild compulsions. They organise their toys
very precisely, or avoid stepping on cracks in the pavement. This
usually goes away as they grow older. Adult OCD usually begins in
the teens or early twenties. Symptoms can come and go with time,
but sufferers often don't seek help until they have had OCD for
many years.
Many people with mild OCD improve without treatment. This does
not usually happen with moderate to severe OCD, although there may
be times when the symptoms seem to go away. Some will slowly
get worse, for others the symptoms get worse when they are stressed
or depressed. Treatment will usually help.
Genes: OCD is sometimes inherited, so can
occasionally run in the family.
Stress: Stressful life events bring it on in
about one out of three cases.
Life changes: Times where someone suddenly has
to take on more responsibility – for example, puberty, the birth of
a child or a new job.
Brain changes: We don't know for certain, but
if you have the symptoms of OCD for more than a short time,
researchers think that an imbalance of a chemical called serotonin
(also known as 5HT) develops in the brain.
Personality: If you are a neat, meticulous,
methodical person with high standards you may be more likely to
develop OCD. These qualities are normally helpful, but can slip
into OCD if they become too extreme.
Ways of thinking: Nearly all of us have odd or
distressing thoughts or pictures in our minds at times - "what if I
stepped out in front of that car?" or "I might harm my child". Most
of us quickly dismiss these ideas and get on with our lives. But,
if you have particularly high standards of morality and
responsibility, you may feel that it's terrible to even have these
thoughts. So, you are more likely to watch out for them coming back
– which makes it more likely that they will.
Surprisingly, some of the ways in which you help yourself can
actually keep it going:
There are two types of CBT used to treat OCD -
Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP) and
Cognitive Therapy (CT).
This is a way to stop compulsive behaviours and anxieties from
strengthening each other. We know that if you stay in a stressful
situation long enough, you gradually become used to it and your
anxiety goes away. So, you gradually face the situation you
fear (exposure) but stop yourself from doing your usual compulsive
rituals, checking or cleaning (response prevention), and wait for
your anxiety to go away.
It's usually better to do it in small steps:
This needs to be done every day for at least one or two weeks.
Each time, you do it for long enough for your anxiety to fall to
less than half what it is at its worst – around 30 to 60 minutes to
start with. It can help to write down a measure of how anxious you
are every 5 minutes, for example, from 0 (no fear) to 10 (extreme
fear). You will see how your anxiety rises, then falls.
You may practice some of the steps with your therapist, but most
of the time you will be doing it on your own, at a pace you feel
comfortable with. It is important to remember that you do not need
to get rid of all your anxiety, just enough to manage it better.
Remember that your anxiety:
There are two main ways of trying ERP:
You follow the guidance in a book or DVD or use a software
programme on a computer, tablet or smart phone app. You also have
occasional contact with a professional for advice and support, but
less often. This approach may be suitable if your OCD is mild, and
you have the confidence to try out ways of helping
This can be face-to-face, over the phone or by video link. This
usually happens every week or two weeks to start with, and can last
for between 45 and 60 minutes at a time. Up to ten hours of contact
is recommended to start with, but you may need more.
An example:
John could not leave the house on time for work every day,
because he had to check so many things in the house. He worried
that the house might burn down, or he might be burgled if he did
not check certain things five times each. He made a list of what he
was checking, starting with the easiest to tackle. It looked like
He began with step one. Instead of making sure that the cooker
was switched off several times, he checked it only once (exposure).
At first he felt very anxious. He stopped himself from going back
to check again. He agreed not to ask his wife to check everything
for him as well, and not to ask her for reassurance that the house
was safe (response prevention). His fear gradually lessened over
two weeks. Then he moved on to step two (the kettle) and so on.
Eventually, he was able to leave the house without any of his
checking rituals and get to work on time.
Cognitive therapy is a psychological treatment which helps you
to change your reaction to the thoughts, instead of trying to get
rid of them. This is useful if you have worrying obsessional
thoughts, but do not perform any rituals or actions to make
yourself feel better. It can also be added to exposure
treatment (ERP) to help overcome OCD.
Cognitive therapy helps you to:
Stop fighting the thoughts
We all have odd thoughts at times, but that is all they are.
They do not mean you are a bad person or that bad things are going
to happen – and trying to get rid of such thoughts just doesn't
work. Relax in their presence. Treat them with mild curiosity or
amusement. If even more unpleasant thoughts intrude, don't resist,
let them happen, and think about them in the same way. Thoughts
will often fade away when you are happy to let them stay.
Change your reaction to your
You learn to notice when you are having upsetting 'thoughts
about thoughts' such as 'I'm a bad person for thinking like this.'
You may keep a diary of these unhelpful ways of thinking, then
challenge them by asking yourself:
Deal with responsibility and blame
You tackle unrealistic and self-critical thoughts, such as:
Test out unhelpful beliefs
A common fear in OCD is that 'thinking it will make it happen'.
Try looking out of the window at a building and think about it
falling down. Get a really strong picture in your mind. What
happens? Another upsetting belief is that 'having thoughts is as
bad as carrying them out'. Imagine your neighbour is unwell and
needs some shopping done. Just think about doing it. Does that make
you a good person? In order to be helpful, you have to
do the action. The same is true for 'bad'
thoughts. It is important to learn that obsessional thoughts are
not carried out in
A cognitive therapist will help you to decide which of your
ideas you want to change, and will help you to build new ideas that
are more realistic, balanced, and helpful.
Most meetings with a therapist take place at your local GP
practice, a clinic or sometimes a hospital. You might be able to
have CT over the phone, or in your own home if you can't leave your
SSRIs (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) can help to
reduce obsessions and compulsions, even if you are not
depressed. Examples include sertraline, fluoxetine,
paroxetine, escitalopram and fluvoxamine. They are generally safe,
but may cause side-effects in the first few days like a headache,
dry mouth or feeling sick. SSRIs can be used alone, or with
CBT, for moderate to severe OCD. Higher doses often work
better for OCD. If treatment with an SSRI has not helped at all
after 3 months, the next step is to change to a different SSRI or a
medication called Clomipramine. It is best to continue medication
for at least 12 months, if it is helping. These medications are not
addictive, but should be gradually reduced over
several weeks before stopping.
Exposure Response Treatment (ERP)
About 3 out of 4 people who complete ERP are helped a lot. Of
those who get better, about 1 in 4 will develop symptoms in the
future, and will need extra treatment. BUT, about 1 in 4 people
refuse to try ERP, or else do not finish it. They may be too
fearful, or too overwhelmed to do it.
About 6 out of 10 people improve with medication. On average,
their symptoms reduce by half. Anti-obsessional medication does
help to prevent OCD coming back for as long as it is taken, even
after several years. Unfortunately, about 1 in 2 of those who stop
medication will get symptoms again in the months after stopping
it. This is much less likely to happen if the medication is
combined with CBT.
Exposure therapy (ERP) can be tried without professional help
(in milder cases) and is effective and has no side-effects, apart
from anxiety. On the other hand, it needs a lot of motivation and
hard work, and it does involve some extra anxiety for a short
CBT and medication are probably equally effective. If you have
only mild OCD, CBT on its own is effective.
If you have moderately severe OCD, then you could choose either
CBT (up to 10 hours of contact with a therapist) or medication (for
12 weeks) first. If you are no better, then you should try both
treatments. There may be a waiting list to see a professional
of several months in some parts of the country.
If your OCD is severe, it's probably best to try medication and
CBT together from the start. Medication alone is an option if your
OCD is more than mild, and you don't feel you can face the anxiety
of ERP and your OCD. It helps about 6 out of 10 people, but there
is more chance that the OCD will return in the future – about 1 in
2 compared with about 1 in 4 for exposure treatments (ERP). It does
have to be taken for about a year, and is obviously not ideal
during pregnancy or breastfeeding.
It's worth talking these options over with your doctor who
should be able to give you any further information you need. You
may also want to ask trusted friends or family members.
Your doctor can refer you to a specialist team, which may
include psychiatrists, psychologists, nurses, social workers and
occupational therapists. They may suggest:
If you have difficulty living on your own, they may also suggest
finding suitable accommodation with people who can help you become
more independent.
With treatment, the outlook for most people with OCD is good. If
you have very severe OCD that has not improved, you might be
offered the choice of referral for a brain operation called
'ablative neurosurgery'. This is really a last resort as there can
be serious side-effects. An alternative approach being researched
is deep brain stimulation, using electrical pulses.
Most people get better by attending a GP surgery, or a clinic
that can be attached to a hospital. Admission to a mental health
unit will only be suggested if:
Some of these approaches may work in other conditions – but
there is not strong evidence for them in OCD:
Your GP may refer you to a local service called 'Improving
Access to Psychological Therapies' (IAPT) or to a specialist mental
health team. At the moment, there is a shortage of NHS
professionals trained in CBT. In some areas, you may have to wait
several months to start treatment.Qualified therapists are often
registered with the British Association of
Behavioural and Cognitive Psychotherapies. If the measures
outlined in the "helping yourself" section don't help, you can
start antidepressant treatment in the meantime.
A charity for people with OCD, body dysmorphic disorder,
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National support group for children and adults with
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An organisation for people with anxiety problems including
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