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By the way, the link to this thread in the Beta Feedback is broken. You're pointing to post # 5019772, which doesn't exist, and this thread is post # 5019773.
Edit: This appears to have been fixed.
Im able to sign in but nowhere to sign out?
bauhaus1919 wrote:no, you blanket-statement called out the whiners. there are people providing constructive criticism. there are also people who have interacted with amazon enough to know the opinions won't matter. and if you don't think they have changed who the company was and what they do, then you are their new target demographic. congrats on getting the site you deserve.
You are right, I called out my disappointment the whiners, everyone of them. Those who are providing constructive criticism are not whining. Of course this is an open forum, they are free to have their opinion, and I am free to have mine. I expressed my opinion. I hope you find some other internet happiness since woot is not for you anymore. I hope you have a good day =)
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Also, three sets of links to all of the sister sites? Top, right, and bottom? Seems overkill to me, especially since the top menu is static.
feraciti wrote:Im able to sign in but nowhere to sign out?
Click "not you?" up there next to your name. Hope you'll come back right after you test it.
To much going on, not impressed. Simple means better. Especially if you want me to buy something.
The "% off retail" and hiding of the witty product description so that you can shoehorn in Woot Plus are both mild turnoffs, and I'm sure most long-time fans feel this way. I feel the same way about Woot Plus as I do about Newegg prominently plugging jewelry - it's not what people come to the site for and stinks of corporate interference. There is certainly a lot of overreacting going on here (you moved the product description to the side?! I have to click one more button to get to what I want?! I'M GONE FOREVER!) but I'd be concerned about losing your identity in a marketplace where that is all you really have to offer over anyone else.
Personally it doesn't matter much to me - I haven't looked regularly at anything Shirt.Woot in quite a while and the e-mail update seems largely unchanged.
And for what it's worth I do like the look of the new site overall. White never bothered me.
Slydon wrote:I think the refurbished issue is something getting changed ASAP, if it helps. It's a very fair point, that's the sort of thing we want you to know on the very first glance. Hope you'll stick around to watch us figure things out.
Y'know. Most "betas" tend to find a group of users to check out the site to make criticisms before it goes live to the general public. This was a pretty massive overhaul of the site, and probably could have used a few (hundred) pilot users to try it out before unleashing it on the masses. Could've sorted out some of the more offensive things, started generating forum interest ("oh man, i got selected to be a beta tester and you should see the new site, it's way cool")... Kind of like how when you guys launched Deals.
But, coulda woulda shoulda. Cat's out of the bag now.
Though I'm thinking y'all shoulda had a bunch of devices hooked up and logged into the site to see how it looks across the various pieces of technology you guys sell - netbooks, laptops, desktops, tablets, monitors of various resolutions (and not all of them massive)...
You're on a netbook, aren't ya 1024px wide resolution? Yeah. Your name is slightly longer, too, so you probably can't see the "not you?" next to your name.
fgarriel wrote:The state-by-state heat map is stretched. The aspect ratio of the picture isn't maintained. 100 miles East-West is longer on the map than 100 miles North-South.
Maybe it's a Mercator projection? Nahhhhh you're probably right. Our parents always told us we'd never maintain a pixel aspect ratio.
cheron98 wrote:Though I'm thinking y'all shoulda had a bunch of devices hooked up and logged into the site to see how it looks across the various pieces of technology you guys sell - netbooks, laptops, desktops, tablets, monitors of various resolutions (and not all of them massive)...
Oh, that does remind me, it's rather annoying to see a horizontal scroll bar when nearly every other website can smartly change its layout to fit in a vertical column. On my desktop my browser takes up a full screen but on the laptop it'd be silly to have it be the only thing I can see at a time. My browser window's about 1000px wide, which has been more than enough for most other websites - and if it isn't, they have incidental info on the right-hand side that I don't mind scrolling to. Having the flow of a website from left to right (to see the product, then its description) is disruptive and I don't care for it.
Seems nice! I agree with the folks who say that the Woot write-up should be visible in its entirety when you view a page. The Woot Plus info can be moved down to accommodate if necessary. The writing is one of the top three great things about Woot! The shipping, another of the top three, has been made even better (for a limited time) so that rocks. I second the notion of keeping that in place through the next Woot Off!
stay woot, it's been a great site, do not let amazon... "amazon (money) it up" or you will stop being special and you will lose people like me who is a frequent flyer
When you click on the "Read More" link, THATS what the actual pages should look like. Its clean and super easy to see everything. I have to dig through the ads and moving thingamajigs to get to that beautiful page, and its a shame. Make that page the main page, toss the current main page, and you have a pretty successful new look.
Slydon wrote:Can I just thank you for taking a retro-direction on your insult? Nobody's using Fat Albert jokes these days, and it really, sincerely takes me back. I appreciate your feedback as well, but the reference is what sold me.
Glad I could take you back. I used to watch it every day after school in syndication. It's crazy to think back to how much of my childhood was consumed by Bill Cosby projects - Fat Albert, Picture Pages, Cosby Show, my parents Coby standup records..
So - as a writer for woot what do you personally think ofthe new web design?
DigMe wrote:So - as a writer for woot what do you personally think ofthe new web design?
I don't think anyone would be surprised that I want my department front and center. If I had MY way, the page would be all writeup with a tiny product button over in the corner!
But that's just vanity, and I completely understand that I do work for a business, and we've got to sell the product to keep the lights on. I just very much hope writeup fans will click through to read the blog and the content and show my bosses how many people come here to enjoy the fun as well. I know I and the other writers work very hard to entertain you guys, and we very much want to share what we do with everyone.
As far as everything else, I've had a little time to get used to the design, and it's really grown on me. I flat out love the tabs and I'm glad that seems to be the one thing everyone kinda agrees on. I also much prefer this white to our just-previous version of the site. I never ever got used to that shade of green and I'm happy to see it gone.
Way too cluttered. Way too bright.
And the layout does not flow at all, even on the product page. It looks like you are trying to sell me a big yellow button. The flow is not logical or expected and, therefore, offensive. Title>Image>Description>Purchase Link. You had it right before, now it's all kinds of wrong.
And when I got lost I clicked on the "home" button, but it didn't take me home, it took me to home woot. Don't put a button labeled "home" that doesn't go home next to the actual home button. That's just irritating.
You can always get there from here
Why on earth would you want to put articles (or whatever you want to call them) for EVERYTHING on every page! I don't want to see everything at once. If I want the blog, I'll click on blog. If I want the discussion, I'll click there.
Why is "Woot+" so large compared to the other sibling sites (shirts, deals, home, kids, ..)? Why not make + the same size and keep it on the side with everything else.
Not a good change.
Whenever I go back and look at your first page, I think "STOP YELLING AT ME!!"
Not having the full product details on the front page any more kind of sucks. This is going to be really annoying when the next "Woot! Off!" happens, especially those of us who use the auto refresh function. It would be ok if it did not direct you away from the main woot site.
Once I got past the shock of change, I was struck by a few things:
- Other woot properties are easier to get to - awesome.
- Sharing features are much more prominent - not a big deal to me
- Full write-up not visible on the homepage - why did I come here again? If you think it was just for the deal, you're wrong woot - I visit at least 5-10 daily deal sites regularly, but most have really poor writeups, which is why I have (to date) visited woot the most. So this is a bad change.
- Other random multi-day "deals" thrown on the front page - Again, why did I come here? If I wanted to see dozens of deals I don't care too much about, I'd just use GroupOn.
- Lots of scrolling, but not much on the bottom of the page - Since it's just a bunch of ads and duplicate links to other woot properties, I guess I can just ignore it. But why?
- User profile looks a little spiffier - but I'm not really sure, since I barely ever used it before. I don't yet know if they added a compelling reason to ever use it now, but I guess I'll see.
- $5 grouped shipping - Depending on how long this lasts, this is great - it can only help, so it's a nice incentive to buy multiple products.
- Tabbed info on the product page - this is cleaner, very nice. But on a 1920x1080 display I still only get 3 lines up write-up without scrolling... sigh. You're not making it easy to enjoy your writing, woot. This offsets how much easier it is to get product info/photos.
Overall... well, woot's gotta make a buck I guess, and I don't mind them trying to stuff their site full of deals and ads. But please, please keep the main write-up front and center. It is the sole distinguishing feature in this business, and you're not serving your best interests by hiding it, at least in my opinion.
I think most of what I'm saying has been said already (I started culling quotes but server errors and the length of this is stopping me from posting them), but just two cents from someone who has regularly enjoyed woot for years (this includes many years of lurking before I finally signed up and started buying too)
Aside from finally finding faster servers, I'm having a tough time finding any improvements to the site.
Just my first impressions:
"Discuss this Deal" scrolling thingy is way too fast and way to annoying. They got rid of the BLINK tag for a reason, ya'know.
Why do we have to click again to get to the daily product/shirt page? Now to see information about what we want (the daily deal/shirt), we have to click through a useless landing page. All this just hawk the Woot Plus crap is pretty sad.
I suppose you're going to be re-writing the FAQ page? Because right now it's pretty offensive to customers. Yes, the old FAQ was very funny and well-written, but the new one is a horrible joke. It's not even a little helpful or even funny, just mean.
What's with all the "sharing" links? Is it insecurity that makes you want to help people annoy their friends with "ZMG A THING ON WOOT" posts? Or is it just a case of "everyone is doing sharing links, we should to!"? Or maybe you wasted some money on a "social networking marketing consultant" who said sharing links increase profits by 32%? To be blunt, sharing links are a stupid idea and a waste of space.
All the hover-popups are incredibly annoying and horrible user interface design. If I put my mouse over the Shirt! link, it's because I want to go there, not because I want to have something jump out at me, giving me just enough information about that deal to be 87% useless. Besides, don't you want people to actually look at the deals? Why scare them away with a tiny popup of uselessness?
What's with all the "Top Comments" being nothing but sycophantic wanking? I remember quality posts (that's what they were, remember?) would often be critical or helpful -- now it's nothing but Oh Woot, you're so wonderful! Have my babies!.
I tried to hide my disgust with the more pointless changes to the site. Didn't work, sorry.
Edit: Ads on the front page!? Thank Zeus for AdBlock.
So I played around with it some more on various devices. Big screens seem ok, iPad seems ok, NetBook is poo. Haven't tried it on the BBerry, but hey, it's a BBerry, so expectations are low to begin with.
Slydon wrote:But that's just vanity, and I completely understand that I do work for a business, and we've got to sell the product to keep the lights on. I just very much hope writeup fans will click through to read the blog and the content and show my bosses how many people come here to enjoy the fun as well. I know I and the other writers work very hard to entertain you guys, and we very much want to share what we do with everyone.
Woot used to be a niche geek site selling one (often somewhat lousy) product a day with hilarious, loveable, heartbreaking, disturbing but always solidly entertaining writeups. I might have complained about every change Woot's done over the past 6 years, but I keep coming back because the writeups have still kept the Woot flavor alive, and they're always fun times.
Thanks for your work, and I hope you guys can convince the higher-ups how important the writeup is to the Woot identity!
"Today is the first day of the rest of your Woot."
Today is the last day I ever come back here. There is no longer 1 deal a day but several deals a day. Thank you for saving me my money and becoming an average retailer.
Dunno if I like your new look or not. I came here for the good deals and simple website. Now, it looks very "corporate-ish", followed by a ton of things in my face that have no relevance to the ONE sale item. If I wanted Amazon.com I would go to Amazon.com. This feels less like woot and more like a suit!
I think it's time for me to find another...
Invisiblemoose wrote:Thanks for your work, and I hope you guys can convince the higher-ups how important the writeup is to the Woot identity!
Thanks for saying so! I do want to clarify: the writeups are very much loved by the big guys. More than once I've gotten compliments from execs and I never feel like I'm yelling into a void at work.
That having been said, any time a user wants to namecheck us, I'm all for it! Even a simple "lolin' at this blog post" can sometimes really improve our day.
I very much hope we'll always earn the respect of our fans, and we'll keep trying to help you want to watch us dance for your dime.
I don't like the fact that you asked your customers for their feedback in this thread, which I provided, and then you deleted my posts, just because YOU may not agree with my opinion.
I'll say again, perhaps a tad more succinctly:
1) Landing page is WAY too busy
2) Tone down the white background, it's burning out my retinas.
3) Too many self-promotional sets of links; three sets on the same page to take you to the same place is unnecessary and insults my intelligence.
4) The proliferation of large ads on all the pages is offensive. If you must have ads on the pages, make them a little less intrusive.
5) Access to FULL product descriptions/specs/etc. need to be available on landing pages WITHOUT having to click though other tabs/nonsense. Has Woot! bought stock in a repetitive stress injury equipment company? All the extra clicking around is going to give people carpal tunnel syndrome.
Add me to the "don't really like it" camp. It's no longer focused on your woot! product. Now it screams "We need to monetize every inch of the screen!". It's cluttered and unpleasant to me, a long-time wooter.
1. Most importantly, the entire product sales pitch should be on the page. We should not have to click "read more" to read it. It is [or at least used to be] the *primary* reason I come to woot!, to see the product and your pitch.
2. Scrolling 'interesting' posts, really? So now I can't quickly scan the links to the interesting posts. Instead I have to either click to yet another page, or sit there and stare at one spot on the page for a couple minutes and hope I haven't missed one. Yuck.
3. Do you really need 3 large advertisements on the main page? Is woot! so hard up for cash that they can't just accept the profits on the products they sell to us, the consumers, but now they have to make the consumers a product as well? To be honest, it's a bit insulting.
4. Way too much screen given to woot!plus, right below the main product. The product pitch should be here. woot!plus should be a link at the top and on the side like the other woot pages [kids, short, wine etc].
I guess those are my biggest beefs with the new page. Once you click the 'read more' and get the actual product page, I think the layout is great. But the front page is a disaster from the standpoint of someone coming to see what the woot deals are.
I feel I should add, I do like some aspects of the new design. I like the top menu bar, it's very nice.
I won't say I *like* it but the 'share this deal' links are easy yet unobtrusive so they're okay.
Definitely keep the side-bar images/links to the other woot pages as you've done.
I don't have any issue with the font or color scheme, though I'll agree with above posters that the background is a little bright, but that's minor.
And again, other than the scrolling 'interesting posts', the layout and function of the product specific page is great. I like the tabs to see specs and sales details.
Not a big fan. The coolness that was Woot was the single deal of the day. The woot plus thing is an even BIGGER part of the page and looks simply like someone figured out affiliate selling accounts. Big whoop.
Woot Plus should be a tab like deal/sellout/kids etc and the focus of the site should STILL be the single deal of the day and the writeup/specs of said deal.
Overall- really don't like the "upgrade." At the rate you're going, why not just call it Wootazon.com and merge sites?
Oh, Woot!
You know me so well...
Just what I wanted for our 7th anniversary ~ a nice, glitzy Beta!
new look but same sorry servers that kept me from 3 Bouts of Consternation in confirm screen this past week.
Woot plus - Woot minus
Okay, So this isn't pretty or perfect - but this would be better to me.
I think the product description and specs belong on the front page.
I understand you want W+ to get exposure - but they take over the page. Putting them where the old site thumbnails are would be great.
And of course there would need to be some color blocking to tone down the glare. Perhaps some light grey under the description to make it easier on the eyes?
Whatcha think?
I tried to reply to a comment..but the incessant server error wont allow it..
On the topic of being too bright and having too much blank whiteness - Viewpoints.com had the same problem when they did their re-design a few months ago - it became a boring blank slate that actually hurt to look at..they have since resolved this issue with what I think are stylish blocks on a toned down background:
The menu bar for navigating sites is nice, but everything else sucks. Far, far too much junk on the front page; I want the woot deal and description, maybe a poll, not pages and pages of random assorted stealth advertising. And putting the product description on the right side of the page makes the site look even worse in 1024x768 than it already did. Having no margin on either side of the page is very awkward, too.
thumperchick wrote:Okay, So this isn't pretty or perfect - but this would be better to me.
I think the product description and specs belong on the front page.
I understand you want W+ to get exposure - but they take over the page. Putting them where the old site thumbnails are would be great.
And of course there would need to be some color blocking to tone down the glare. Perhaps some light grey under the description to make it easier on the eyes?
Whatcha think?
This looks pretty good to me..still busy and cramped..but an improvement..and the site definitely needs some color blocking..
Meh, too busy and clunky. I just want a quick view of what is available for the woot I am on. The only large graphic should be the current item, not the entire catalogue. I think the only thing you didnt throw in was the flashing "New" graphic.
Slydon wrote:Click "not you?" up there next to your name. Hope you'll come back right after you test it.
It feels silly to me changing to (not you?) as the logout, especially when I've seen this question many times. Even Amazon has gone from using the (not you?) to "Sign out." It doesn't seem intuitive.
Anyway, I love the writeups, and I want to give props to you and the other writers. I just wish more of your work was displayed on the front page. At first I was wishing it was back where it used to be, but now I really like the idea of it being above the fold on the page. I just wish you could read more without having to click through.
I would like to buy several items today, But I don't want to give my credit card number before I have finished adding items to my cart. Its rather Jack-Ass-ish of you to assume that I'd want to. When you walk in to a brick-and-mortar store, how would you feel if as soon as you picked up one item the clerk wanted to hold your credit card until you were done looking around? I don't remember you having this problem before the revamp.
I live in a dorm where the WIFI drops regularly and is sometimes out for long periods of time, if I have an item I was going to buy in my cart, its sometimes lost, sometimes from your very site. I don't mind too much until it can affect my money. As a company with amazons resources, I'd assume you'd like to make shopping as least jack-ass-ish as possible.
I won't be buying any of the items I was going to buy today. But as the internet has literally thousands of sites that want to sell me T-shirts, I'm sure I can get my need for witty clothing in a way that makes me feel more secure.
I may try you again after the Beta tag is removed, or its more likely I'll continue with the other companies I buy from.
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Woodlore Cedarbrooke by Combination Cedar Shoe Tree (For Men)
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About Woodlore Cedarbrooke by Combination Cedar Shoe Tree (For Men)
2nds. Throw open your closet door and breathe in the fragrant, forest-fresh scent of cedar. Cedarbrooke shoe trees by Woodlore naturally protect against moths and can be aromatically rejuvenated with light sanding.
- Wood is harvested in USA using forest-friendly methods
- Metal hardware
- Sold as a pair
- Made in United States of America
Specs about Woodlore Cedarbrooke by Combination Cedar Shoe Tree (For Men)
- Material: Cedar and metal
- Gender: Men
- Made in United States of America
Do you own this product? Write a review and help others with their buying decisions!
4.692556 5 Overall Rating: 4.7 Based on 309 reviews
Most Helpful 5-Star Review
I finally found the best!
Verified Buyer Reviewed by Princesschecki from Upstate New York on Saturday, April 7, 2012
Here is how I get the best fit of these shoe trees:
With two fingers I push on the back of the shoe-tree front - the front slides into the shoe as far as it can go.
Then I push in the back wooden part - the front opens to fill the shoe.
If you push the tree into the shoe holding the back wooden pa... Read More
With two fingers I push on the back of the shoe-tree front - the front slides into the shoe as far as it can go.
Then I push in the back wooden part - the front opens to fill the shoe.
If you push the tree into the shoe holding the back wooden pa... Read More
Seconds? Shoes don't careVerified Buyer Reviewed by Maka in Kona from Kailua Kona, Hawaii on Tuesday, October 2, 2018Been buying this product over the years and the mechanical parts have stood up to use as promised.
What can I sayVerified Buyer Reviewed by Justin from PA on Wednesday, September 26, 2018There real ceder and all good shoes should be kept this way
Wood lore shoe treesVerified Buyer Reviewed by David from Washington st. on Friday, June 1, 2018Good quality, like that they spread in the forefoot when inserted
Perfect for those $200+ pairs of shoesVerified Buyer Reviewed by madcal from WV on Thursday, May 17, 2018Penny wise and pound foolish. If you have great shoes and/or boots they won't be great for long without something like this to help keep them perfect. Excellent quality for the price
Good valueVerified Buyer Reviewed by Colorado_phill from Colorado on Monday, January 22, 2018These shoe trees are great. Keep the shape of my dress shoes and absorb moisture after spending long days wearing my shoes. If you purchase any decent shoes like Allen Edmunds these are a necessity.
That great cedar smellVerified Buyer Reviewed by The Reviewer from USA on Tuesday, August 15, 2017I bought these with a nice pair of Redwings 2nds, and will continue to enjoy the quality and great cedar smell I am welcomed with when I open the box!
Good productVerified Buyer Reviewed by kkoo from korea on Wednesday, July 26, 2017nice quality and size
Great quality shoe treesVerified Buyer Reviewed by World traveler from Boulder on Tuesday, April 18, 2017Your good shoes could use a pair of these babies to keep them in tip top shape. Highly recommended for all of the shoes you like and want to keep!
First class treesVerified Buyer Reviewed by Bill from New York on Tuesday, April 18, 2017These may be seconds, but they are first class . . . and about ten bucks cheaper than they would have ordinarily been. Simple spring mechanism keeps proper tension on my shoes both in length and width, and the red cedar is delightfully aromatic. Grab 'em while STP's still got 'em.
PerfectVerified Buyer Reviewed by Edin from Arizona on Tuesday, April 4, 2017Hold shoe shape perfectly, and the cedar works very well for deodorizing.
Question & Answer
Questions about this product? Get answers from community and staff experts.
"Is the toe piece split and adjustable to the width of the shoe you are putting the in?"
Yes it is. When I use them, I push the toe-piece in as far as it will go. Then i push the heel-piece into position which spreads the toe-piece apart and fills the shoe. Its not as fancy as one you'd get from Allen Edmonds, but it works fine.
Yes, the toe piece is adjustable.
The toe piece adjusts itself to the proper width when the heel is pushed into the shoe. You are not able to set a width and then put it in the shoe.
I second Every Man Jack's Comment about how to use them.
The toe piece is split but does not appear to be adjustable. I have a medium width foot and the toe piece fits well for that size.
"What size would accommodate 10.5 M and 10.5 N?"
Get the Large. I wear a 10.5 M and bought the large - works perfectly. The toe end widens as it goes in, so it should fit in the 10.5 N as well, and just not widen out as much. But if not the case, STP has a good return policy, although I doubt you'll need to exercise it.
I wear a 10 medium and use the large. The large fits in some shoes very well and in others it fits tightly. I would think that the large would fit in the 10 1/2 medium, but I can't predict how it would fit in a narrow. It would likely fit but may be tight.
I would recommend large. You will greatly appreciate the cedar shoe trees. Not only do they keep the shoe stretched in perfect position but the cedar seems to absorb moisture and perspiration. Quick and easy to use. Could not determine why marked as seconds? And of course STP is priced right.
If you hover your mouse over or click on the sizes the corresponding numeric size will be displayed.
"Are these previously used or brand new? What does "2nds" represent?
I purchased 6 pair of xxl mens size. They were perfect. I did not detect any problems.
Hello Carl, In my experience "2nds" have always been defined as a new item that may have a minor flaw. In the case of the Shoe Tree you are interested in the "2nds" aspect doesn't appear to be note worthy. The product arrived beautifully packaged and in pristine condition. Cedarbrooke has made a fine quality item that I can highly recommend. In my opinion these items were more than likely overstocked and not really "2nds". Good luck finding a better shoe tree.
these shoe trees are brand new, smell nice, I bought a dozen of them and am very pleased with the product and the price
They are definitely brand new. We've purchased 8 or10 sets of them for my husband's good shoes. Each pr of these shoe trees arrives individually boxed with no signs that the boxes were ever opened. The shoes trees we've received from STP have certainly never been used. I don't know what makes them 2nds. They work correctly and protect his shoes from the damage that leather suffers without the cedar absorbing the moisture as it stretches the leather back into place. No problems using them.
The shoe trees which I received were new. If they were seconds, I did not notice a flaw. They worked as intended and had a strong cedar odor implying that they had not aged significantly since machining.
These are brand new shoe trees. Seconds means there is a defect that prevents the manufacturer from selling as pristine condition. I must admit I saw absolutely nothing I would consider as a defect on the shoe trees I purchased. I intend to buy more.
the ones i received were brand new
'2nds' are pieces that have (typically minor) imperfections, but i can't find anything wrong with the ones i got.
They are brand new. When an item is listed as a 2nd it means it did not meet the manufacturer's highest quality standards. In many cases it was rejected for a minor flaw, often an imperceptible one. The manufacturer will sell its seconds outside its normal distribution channels. If the manufacturer leaves its brand on its 2nds it will insist the retailers sell them as 2nds. Also, if the brand is left on it is usually, though not always by any means, a pretty good indication that any flaw is a minor one.
! have 25 or so pairs of these shoe trees I ordered from STP. I am well satisfied with them and have no complaints whatsoever. I have yet to find the flaws that caused them to be sold as 2nds. Whatever they are they have not interfered with their functions.
These shoe trees came packaged as brand new. There was no indication that they had even been opened from their original packaging. They are labeled as "2nds" probably from a quality assurance standpoint, but I haven't been able to detect any defects, either visually or functionally.
"How much does it weigh? I intend to buy 15 of them. Together with the package how much does the entire package weigh, approximately?"
Each box weighs 1 lb 9.4 oz. Fifteen of them would weigh approx. 24 lbs.
"I wear size 9, which is in size range for both Small and Medium. Which tree size for men's size 9? Any help would be apprecaited."
I beleive a Medium will work great for you.
"I wear size 8 1/2, which is in size range for both Small and Medium. Which tree size for men's size 8 1/2?"
If you hover over the "Sizes Available" with your mouse, a tap will appear and provide you with the correct numeric sizing. I hope this helps.
Always size up when buying shoe trees. The medium will have a proper snug fit while the small will loosen up over time.
"Is this two pairs of shoe tree's or two shoe trees?"
two shoe trees are sold as a single pair.
two shoe trees... one pair, for insertion into one pair of shoes.
"Are these adjustable? I want to order some for my son. He wears size 12 shoes. Does width matter?||Will they be delivered by Christmas?"
"I wear a mens size 10D (medium). I noticed the narrow mixed in with medium sizing, will medium in the shoe tree suffice for me?||Thanks, please let me know before sale ends.||Wayne"
I beleive a Medium will work great for you.
"does the metal bar on the shoe tree bend. i.e. can the shoe tree form a right angle? as soon as i receive an answer i will purchase. thank you."
No, the metal rod inserts into the cedar heel so is unable to bend at angles; the toes are expandable however.
No, the metal rod is hollow and inserts into the cedar heel, and so is unable to bend at angles.


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Discussion in 'The Bar' started by Diogenes1, Jan 29, 2013.
Why did you pretend to be a girl on the internet
Dear god everyone in that video should be executed.
to make you ask questions
Mexico has no laws.
Why do you want me to ask questions
your AV is reprehensible
Yes it does. My buddy got thrown in jail once for his girlfriend carrying an open container.
I don't but its Pavlovian . . . you were born to ask questions.
I just gave you a reason, that's all
of course, they love to fuck with americans.
It's a weird reason though
So I'm the reason for the Miss Amanda thing?
Go find out what happens to people who illegally cross their borders.
yours is ugly ... fuck off
isnt there more profound questions to ask, like, why are we here?
you're not mad, are you? we wouldn't want you to be mad
nah, I get bored when you respond, or you make me want to take a shit.
mmmmm, so much anger, so much hostility towards women


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Though I knew better, I couldn't wait to use the pretty new table linens that arrived in that day's mail. "Made for every day," the website assured. That was all the encouragement I needed.
I spread the crisp cotton placemats, which came in pretty patterns of fern orange, fleur-de-lis basil and scrolling lemon, paired them with not-matching napkins, stood back and admired my handiwork.
I probably should have saved the new linens for company or when serving something un-messy like pretzel sticks, but delay of gratification has never been my long suit. I was making spaghetti and salad for my daughter and me. I looked forward to the fact that this simple touch would make our ordinary weeknight dinner feel special.
At dinner I was tense. I tried to act nonchalant as if this were an everyday dinner with everyday linens, but when my daughter went to dish out her spaghetti, I pushed the pasta bowl closer to her plate.
"Let me serve the salad," I offered.
She looked at me weird. "Is it our last meal or something?"
I took a cleansing breath. "It's just, well, they're new." As I pictured splotches of red sauce and vinaigrette christening the new linens, I could feel the blood rising in my ears.
"We can wash them," she said, stating the obvious.
I could barely eat. I finally forced the fork to my mouth. Steady now. Whew! Soon I needed to wipe my mouth. I looked at the pristine lemon and white napkin on my lap, then ... reached for the tissue box.
My daughter looked at me as if I were being as ridiculous as I was.
I realized she'd busted me. In my books and when I speak on living well, I harp on these mantras: Use the good stuff every day. (Who's more important than your immediate family?) And the closer something is to your body, the nicer it should be. (Napkins qualify.) So here I was, testing my own resolves.
And failing.
Just then my daughter looked me in the eye, then brazenly raised her napkin to her mouth and wiped.
And it was okay.
From that moment on, we ate. We spilled. We enjoyed.
"People need to get over their fear factor of linens," said Jenny Davids, owner of Hen House Linens, maker of the everyday line. "But next time, don't start with spaghetti."
Here's what else she advised about the use, wear and care of table linens:
•Misplaced panic. A lot of women associate linens with setting a formal table and, because they're not sure where the butter plate goes, avoid them. "Women who think that linens will ratchet up the stress level have to work through that."
•Fancy or casual? Heavier, solid-colored linens are more formal. Lighter-weight prints are considered casual. White linens need to be heavy or you look like you're using a sheet, she said. Plus solids show every flaw. Prints are more forgiving.
•Mix don't match. If you don't have any hot pink in your home, but you love the pink patterned linen, use it, says Davids, and layer it with other prints. "This is a small color commitment and it's for the meal, not forever." And yes, you can put patterned dishes on patterned linens.
•The touch test. Linens should feel smooth. When buying them, also check how well stitching is done. Mitered corners indicate a little more care in the making. If the fabric has a print, look closely to see if the dye is woven into the fabric, or just stamped on it. If the pigment is just on top, the fabric will feel slightly waxy and color will degrade quickly when washed. Get all cotton.
•Wear and care. To preserve their newness, wash linens in cold water and fluff dry or hang. When you add heat, whether from hot water or a hot dryer, cotton's properties change. Fibers can shrink and buckle. Spot treat stains by rubbing a drop of liquid dish soap in with your fingers. Rinse in cold water, then put it in the laundry pile. If you ball it up with the stains in and leave it for the weekend, you could have more trouble. That crisp new feeling comes from sizing manufacturers add to the fabric. It washes out. Once it's gone, the cotton absorbs better. Davids likes hers softened, but if you want them like new again, iron them with light starch, or send them to the cleaners.
•Why every day? "Linens are like a fashion accessory. They're the bracelet or scarf; they add another layer that makes things pretty," said Davids, who lives near Baltimore with her husband and three sons. "We use cloth napkins every night. I take that back. We all have cloth napkins, but I'm pretty sure the 7-year-old uses the shoulder of his shirt."
•Now matters. Paper napkins and plastic placemats make the moment feel disposable. Setting out pretty linens at mealtime tells those you love, "This time right now is special."
Syndicated columnist and speaker Marni Jameson is the author of "House of Havoc" and "The House Always Wins" (Da Capo Press).


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SAO PAULO (AP) — Brazilian media are reporting that at least 31 people have been murdered in Sao Paulo in the last three days.
A police spokeswoman says the reported figure is accurate, though she says she has no official statistics.
Early Monday, at least one bus torched was torched in the city.
Police say that a powerful drug gang is behind the wave of violence that's hit South America's biggest city in recent weeks.
They say it's in response to a crackdown on the First Capital Command drug gang, which was allegedly behind a wave of violence that paralyzed the city in 2006.
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February 25, 1937 - September 29, 2013
Morrisville, NY - Formerly of Monroe, NY
Otto F. Bischoff, 76, of Morrisville, formerly of Monroe, passed away Sunday, September 29, 2013 in Morrisville. He was born February 25, 1937 in Jersey City, NJ, a son of the late Martin P. and Carrie (Killian) Bischoff and graduated from Bishop-Loughlin High School. He served his country in the U.S. Armed Forces. On February 8, 1964 he was united in marriage to the former Maria M. Koch in Closter, NJ. She predeceased him on August 11, 2005. Mr. Bischoff owned and operated the Monroe Bake Shop in Monroe until his retirement. He was member of the Sacred Heart Church, Monroe.
Surviving are his two sons: Marty Bischoff of Fredon, NJ, and Michael Bischoff of Morrisville; a daughter, Carrie Bischoff of Morrisville; a sister-in-law, Anne Marie Bischoff of Manhasset; five grandchildren: Nichole, Michelle, Paul, Stephen, and Amanda, as well as several nieces and nephews. He was also predeceased by a brother, Martin P. Bischoff.
A Mass of Christian Burial will be celebrated at 10 a.m. on Tuesday, October 1st, at St. Joan of Arc Church, Morrisville. Interment will follow at 3 p.m. at St. Anastasia Cemetery, Harriman. There are no calling hours.
Contributions in Mr. Bischoff's memory may be made to St. Joan of Arc Church, PO Box 1087, Morrisville, NY 13408.
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Barndoor Skate Now Sustainable Seafood Choice After Years of Prohibited Fishing
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Sea of Okhotsk Pollock Catch Will be More Than 1 million Tons with Improved Fall Fishing
NFI's Seafood, See Jobs Campaign Returns to Minnesota to Highlight Importance of Trade
Like Other Sectors, UK Seafood Industry Faces Waves of Uncertainty Over Brexit
White Shrimp Prices Drop in Guangxi, Where Farmers Hope for Better Winter Market
Alaska Ferry Acidity Tests Show Water is More Corrosive in Fall/Winter
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Preliminary Sablefish TACs Don't Necessarily Mean High Quotas for 2019
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Urner Barry's Seafood Import Workshop Brings Together Industry Professionals and Government Reps
West Coast Pink Shrimp Fishery Improved This Year: Better Landings, Better Shrimp
Norway: Skretting Factory in Averøy Now Producing Salmon Feed with Insect Meal
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FFAW applauds National Report on Canadian Marine Reserves that Warns Against Arbitrary Timelines
Indonesia To Produce 400,000 tons of Pangasius This Year, Attracted by High Price
EU, Republic of Korea Join Forces in Fight Against IUU Fishing
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Ak. Gov Candidate Mike Dunleavy Accused of Turning Back on Fishing Industry after Cancelling Debate
Norway and Russia Reduce 2019 Barents Sea Cod Quota to 725,000 tons, a 7% Decrease over 2018
UK study says farmed shrimp is as safe as any food, but websites continue to push false information
FFAW Calls on DFO to Re-open Mackerel Fishery, Says Biomass Estimates of Low Abundance are Wrong
Norwegian Fishing Company and Software Group Create PC Game Based on Fishing the Barents Sea
Sea Grant Announces 2018 Aquaculture Research Awards
Canada's SeaChoice Criticizes ASC Certified Salmon Farms for Often Being Below Stated Standards
NOAA announces three at-large appointments to Regional Fishery Management Councils
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California Spiny Lobster Fishery Closed in State Waters Around Anacapa Island Due to Domoic Acid
Ugly Crab Campaign Aims to Expand Markets for Old Shell Crab
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NOAA Confirms 3rd North Atlantic Right Whale Mortality of 2018
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America Buys More Pangasius and China Exerts Less Influence on the Global Market
Sen Elizabeth Warren Again Reiterates her Support for Carlos' Permits Remaining in New Bedford
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Captain D's Opens 29th Location in Mississippi
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Concern for Whales as Northern California Crab Season Opens
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A small company creating equipment that helps people with paralysis walk will establish a U.S. headquarters in Marlboro.
ARGO Medical Technologies Ltd., founded in Israel in 2001, will open in 3,600 square feet of leased space at 33 Locke Drive as it ramps up for Food and Drug Administration review of its ReWalk, an exoskeleton that users wear to help them stand, walk and ascend or descend stairs.
ARGO announced the decision today alongside Gov. Deval Patrick at AdvaMed 2012, the annual conference and expo of the Advanced Medical Technology Association, a trade group. The conference is being held at the Boston Convention & Exhibition Center and continues through tomorrow.
ARGO's Marlboro office will initially employ about five to six people, but it could grow to 40 people as the business wins Food and Drug Administration approval of ReWalk and launches U.S. sales, according to Chief Executive Larry J. Jasinski. The company began sales of ReWalk in Europe within the last month.
ReWalk is a computer-controlled exoskeleton for people with lower-limb disabilities. The user straps devices on his or her legs and wears a backpack containing a battery. By punching buttons on a wrist-worn device, the user can tell the components to stand, move forward or take stairs.
Theresa A. Hannigan, an Army veteran who was disabled by treatments for an autoimmune disorder, demonstrated the ReWalk to a crowd of onlookers today at the AdvaMed gathering. Ms. Hannigan lives on Long Island, N.Y., and generally uses ReWalk three times a week at a Veterans Administration hospital in the Bronx, N.Y.
"For all those doctors out there who told me I would never walk again, guess what?" she said. "I am walking."
ARGO has a sales office in Germany and will retain research, development and production in Israel, Mr. Jasinski said. The Marlboro office will handle service, administration and clinical studies.
In Europe, the ReWalk system sells for about 50,000 euros, or about $64,000. It's not yet clear what the device would sell for in the United States or how users would pay for it. Mr. Jasinski said, however, a significant market exists for the product.
"Even if we have a very small penetration rate, we can have a very successful business," he said.


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Melting Stones
- Narrated by: Grace Kelly
- Series: Circle Reforged, Book 2
- Length: 8 hrs and 28 mins
- Unabridged Audiobook
- Release date: 25-10-2007
- Language: English
- Publisher: Full Cast Audio
Regular price: $40.58
Editorial Reviews
This audiobook original will please the author's legions of fans. The new Circle of Magic fantasy features Grace Kelly as Evvy, an apprentice stone mage. She is able to suspend her physical self and explore the depths of the earth, sensing and, at times, influencing the course of nature. With her mentor, Rosethorn, and the powerful Luvo, she is challenged to solve the mysterious withering of an island whose plants and waters are dying. While the production has some over-the-top sound effects, Kelly delivers a strong performance, and the Full Cast voices align well with their characters. Listeners will especially enjoy the author's participation.
Publisher's Summary
Written by Tamora Pierce specifically for the voices of Full Cast Audio, Melting Stones is an unprecedented publishing event: the first time a major novel from a best-selling author has made its debut on audio a full year ahead of the print version!
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- Kristy Bates
- 07-04-2017
Tamora Pierce loves must listen
always love the full cast family productions. Tamora Pierces work has truly been brought to life in this work
- Julia
- 16-11-2007
Great story, great performance
This book converted me to audio books! I have read Tamora Pierce for 22 years now, and was impatiently awaiting her next book. When Melting Stones was released as an audio book, I decided to listen rather than waiting for the hard copy. I'm glad I did.
The story is about Evvy, a character introduced in "Street Magic." She is a fourteen year old stone mage. She gets dragged along on a trip to investigate why the water and plants on an island are suddenly dying. She has no interest in this, because her magic is with rocks. But she quickly gets involved, when it turns out her magic is the most important of the three mages' on the trip.
The narration is excellent, and having different actors read each part truly brings the book to life. Even though the characters don't sound the same way they did in my head, it was delightful to be able to close my eyes and enter the world of a book, even while on the subway or washing dishes.
4 of 4 people found this review helpful
- Holly Helscher
- 11-07-2010
This is the first book I have read by Tamora Pierce. When I purchase audiobooks, I usually throw in a few young adult titles so that I know what I'm recommending to my grandchildren. I thought this book was engaging and the full audio cast presentation was outstanding. Evvy and Master Louvo, "Fuss pot" and Rosethorn take their magical skills to an island to determine what is killing the plants. From there we learn the problem and are involved in the magical solution. For an audience aged 12-14, this book is delightful, especially for fans of fantasy. But it is equally enjoyable for the adult if one is willing is suspend the belief system. I like that a female saves the day, so this book would be particularly interesting to girls. And one learns something about rocks and volcanoes along the way. After this reading, I immediately went to my local bookstore to purchase it for a young teen who I know loves to read. I was shocked to learn that it is still only available in hardback and they were all sold out. So she'll have to wait. Nicely done and nicely read.
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- Got My Book
- 19-09-2008
Not her best work
First of all let me say that I am a fan of Tamora Pierce and own the audio versions of 9 of her books. I am also a big fan of Full Cast Audio and have purchased many of their books by other authors as well. That said, I have never bothered to listen to this one a second time.
Although Full Cast Audio did a wonderful job, the story just didn't grab me. I found many of the elements to be less interesting versions of things she had already done in other books. I also didn't find Evvy to be a very enjoyable protagonist.
But I know that everyone's tastes are different. If you are a big fan of Tamora Pierce, I'd recommend reading the print version first, to see if this is something you like, before spending your credit.
All in all, I'd much rather listen to any of the original Circle of Magic books or to Street Magic (the first story of Rosethorn, Briar, and Evvy and a great book) instead.
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- Kim
- 16-12-2007
I downloaded this audiobook as an avid reader of Pierce's many series. I had never listened to an audiobook before but I am certainly in awe of the way that I was drawn in and simply could not stop listening. With Evvy and Rosethorn returning for the audiobook and small mentions of the other characters readers may remember littered throughout, the audiobook also introduced many new and lovable characters.
I recommend this audiobook to anyone familiar with Tamora Pierce's work and also anyone unfamiliar, as one can easily pick up what is happening and get the gist of the unique universe that Pierce has created. This really is a lively, active, and thoroughly enjoyable listening experience.
I believe that children, young adults, and adults alike (as I am myself) would find this just as fantastic as I did. Particularly loveable was the snarky but kind Rosethorn, the wise Luvo. The adventure of Evvy was exciting and it was great to see her develop from immaturity to a young woman willing to take on responsibility. I have now fallen in love with Evvy just as I did the original four 'Circle' members of The Circle of Magic and The Circle Opens.
2 of 2 people found this review helpful
- THoward
- 04-03-2009
Excellent presentation!
The narration and full cast were fantastic! I loved this part of this audibook. The tale did not pull me in though. I have read from others that this is not the best Tamora Pierce tale. It was my first experience with this author and I'm not ready to start another book from her. If the story were more captivating, then I would jump in a buy more audiobooks, but this one just seemed to lack the highs and lows of intensity that make great stories. I'll probably try a different Tamora novel in a few months, just not now. I will certainly look again for Full Cast Audio presentations, this part of the tale was excellent, a 5 star performance.
1 of 1 people found this review helpful
- Corinne
- 25-09-2017
I don't like this full cast set up
The full cast audio is jaring to listen to. Each new narrator is startling and doesnt fit the previous speaker. Its not for me at all.
- Lloyd
- 17-02-2017
I love this book and read/listen to it again.
I have read all the books written by Tamora Pierce so far and have enjoyed every single one of them.
- Asta
- 18-07-2012
A Fair Listen
I really liked the narrators of Evvy, Miriam and Luvo. I thought that they did rather well. Grace Kelly's narration wasn't very smooth at certain times, but her voice acting was great. There were certain points where I felt that she did not manage to provoke in me feelings of tension or dread or anticipation. I also had some trouble determining which lines Evvy was narrating and which lines she was speaking. However, I definitely heard Evvy through her voice so I thought that Grace Kelly did a fine job. Miriam sounded really cute. I was really pleased with the narrator for Miriam. Luvo's voice actor was also rather well chosen. His deep, almost gravelly voice made it easy to identify him as the "heart of a mountain". There were times when I felt that the narrator spoke a bit too quickly for a mountain, but otherwise, I liked him.
The other characters also performed their roles well, but many shared a tendency to sound too careful. The "voice acting" sounded deliberate, unnatural, and forced. The narrator for Rosethorn, I felt, should have spoken more slowly. In previous books, Rosethorn had suffered some issues which even Evvy mentioned that made speech a bit more difficult for her. In this audiobook, the narrator spoke quickly and fluidly, belying Rosethorn's speech problems. I also dislike it when narrators seem to adopt a stereotypical voice, shall I call it for lack of a better word?, and/or perhaps a contemporary tone to a work that would be better suited with a more neutral tone. I did not much care for the tone of the magma "children", in particular Flare (sp?). His voice was a bit too jeering.
This book wasn't my favorite of Tamora Pierce's books but I didn't dislike it either.
Parts of this review was cross-posted from Goodreads.
- Joel Langenfeld
- 21-06-2011
Melting Stones
I downloaded this for a road trip with my 12 yr old budding geologist daughter. The characters are the strongest part of this story, along with Pierce's vision of stone magic. The storyline is good as a whole, but can be a little shaky. (dodging spoilers) The party seems to take an inordinately long time to figure out what is going on, and as the climax is approaching we are treated to two or three chapters of pointless argument.
I guess I'd differ from the rave reviews of the narration - I found it pedestrian at best. The narrators could have brought so much more to the table with some well-chosen emphasis now and again. To be fair, they were hobbled by Pierce's dialog which may have passed on the page, but become labored aloud.
- Sherry Girard
- 14-01-2008
Hooray for Tamora Pierce and Full Cast Audio!!
What a treat! It is easy to follow and you are drawn in to follow the adventure of Evy, Rosetorn, "Fuss Pot" and Master Louvo.
I can hardly wait until this release comes out in hardback!
- Jenny
- 18-03-2009
Trapped in a loop
The story began with lots of promise, as Tamora Pierce has always been an excellent author for young adults and older. However, this book turns out to be something of a disappointment as the same events seem to happen over, and over, and over so that I kept inwardly groaning a "Not again..." to myself as I listened.
The full cast style is charming, though I did find the voice of the main character/narrator somewhat grating. The sound effects and music could have been better. I felt like I was watching anime with those cheesy brief tunes before and after commercial breaks. All in all, not one of Pierce's better books. Stick to Lioness Rampant and subsequent novels in that world if you want a good read.
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- Vanessa
- 16-04-2017
Excellent book
This story was brought to life by the fantastic readers involved. Especially Grace Kelly.
This is a lighter story then the last one I listened to 'Battle Mage' and quite funny in places. Still it tells a serious story about volcanos and learning to love and care again.


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In the new bookThe Good Girls Revolt, former Newsweek senior editor Lynn Povich traces the history of the magazine and women—women who started as mail girls and, if they were lucky, went on to become researchers, handing their notes over to the guys to turn into stories. A firm no-women-writers rule prevented them from going further. But after a landmark lawsuit in 1970 that Lynn helped organize, women were eventually coopted into the writer-and-editor pool—and in 2010, Newsweekgot its first-ever female editor in Tina Brown. But Thursday, Brown announced that Newsweek will cease publication of its print edition and shed a good chunk of its staff.
In some ways, this was news long expected, the first rumblings of a precarious future coming even before the Graham family sold the magazine to Sidney Harman for $1. But it really was an exceptionally speedy end-of-days, in the grand scheme of the magazine's history. In 2008, when your blogger first got a job there, reporters were still on campaign planes, bureaus still dotted the globe and the country, and the wine flowed freely at lavish closing-night dinners—cooked by in-house chefs, and served on china in a wood-paneled penthouse aerie reserved for such occasions. Sometimes there were even cookies in the Newsweek "N" at these dinners, readers. Which means there was a Newsweek cookie-cutter, and a fulltime person who deployed it selectively over sugar-cookie dough. And served its fruits to prime ministers and celebrities and war reporters and whomever else was hosted by the magazine in its historic old dining room.
But today, there are no cookies or chefs or aeries—there is only "Newsweek Global," about which we know little, except that it has the name of a telecommunications-P.R. firm. To mourn the loss of our shared professional beginnings, Lynn talked to us about her book, the Newsweeknewsroom in its 60s- and 70s-era prime, and what she feels about its future. Highlights from our chat:
Sarah Ball: Let's go back to your first day. Tell me what it was like when you first started, in late 1966.
Lynn Povich: I got toNewsweek at the end of 1966, and it was a really glamorous place to work for a woman at that time. It was exciting, it was about the news of the day, and it was a very collegial place—it was patriarchal, and it was all men at the top, but it had this air of informality, because everybody was on a first-name basis, including the editor-in-chief. Women were hired initially to deliver mail, and then to clip newspapers and deliver them to the appropriate writers, and then, finally, if you were really good, you got promoted to be a researcher or a fact-checker. . . . It was really a terrific job—except that we couldn't get promoted out of category. Very few women were promoted to reporters, and most women couldn't get promoted to be writers, and certainly not editors. Women who really knew they wanted to be journalists—like Nora Ephron and Ellen Goodman—they all saw the lay of the land smartly and left. The rest of us good girls were just happy to be in a fascinating, interesting, exceptional place, and have a special pipeline to the truth—of what was really going on.
How established did the Newsweeknewsroom feel by then? It had been around at that point for more than 30 years, but had it found its groove?
It was really a second-rate newsmagazine until Oz Elliott became the editor, which was in 1961. In the mid-60s, Oz really changed the magazine—he jumped in early on the civil-rights movement and became an advocate for that, and then became an advocate for ending the war in Vietnam. And Newsweekbecame thehot magazine in the 1960s—it was considered, finally, not only the rival to Time, but in many ways surpassed it, especially on social and cultural and political issues. And Oz was a brilliant editor. For a kind of Wasp-y guy who had worked for Timefor six-and-a-half years himself—someone one wouldn't exactly think of as the most progressive person—he was reallyprogressive.
Specifically with the landmark 1970 discrimination suit of which you were a part, Newsweekkicked off a chain reaction among women at magazines and newspapers. Talk about the catalyzing effect.
Certainly the Newsweeklawsuit being the very first of women in the media to sue—and the first women in the media to be a class-action suit—opened the doors for all of the suits after us. Especially the large organizations like Time, Sports Illustrated, Fortune, NBC, The New York Times. So I think by showing that it could be done—and I know that women at other organizations looked to us specifically and said, "If they can do it, we can do it—and if they're doing it, we should do it." So there's no question that this very courageous action on the part of 46 women at Newsweekinspired a lot of other women to do the same thing, or to organize and really push for change.
You know, I have this binder that someone gave me as a parting gift when I left Newsweek in 2010—it is a guide from legendary editor Peter Goldman about how to be a Real Newsweek Reporter, and I understand it was part of the women's training in the mid-1970s when they were formally integrated as part of the reporter-writer corps. It's quite possibly my favorite artifact, over my dining-room ashtray from the 60s.
I would love to see that! You know, the men we worked with every day, the writers and reporters, most of them were quite supportive about including women, because they knew how smart we were. They looked at our reporting, and they knew how often we saved them from making mistakes! But there's no question that there were men who resisted the whole idea—who were ideologically against affirmative action. One of them said that to me at the time—I'm against your promotion because I don't believe in affirmative action. . . . There was nervousness and tension in the offices after we sued, because it was a very uncomfortable feeling—you weren't quite sure who resented you.
But you've stayed on good terms with editors, writers, and colleagues from that era—men and women. I know I'm in awe that the women that were part of the suit still get together for reunions—and all your stories in the book about the late nights! The breaking stories! The sordid affairs! I love it all. Media is much more boring now, let me just say. And the lack of infirmary cots makes trysts more uncomfortable, I'm sure.
They were really smart people, mostly young people, and they all had a sense of serving a good cause—to do really good, serious, honest reporting about serious things, and to do something we believed would improve the world. The men and the women were really good friends, and remain so over so many years. We had a reunion about eight years ago—and it was only a reunion of people who worked until 1980, so mostly the 60s and 70s, and still over 100-something people came. There were good old days at Newsweek, and there were golden days at Newsweek.
There's something about sharing a common history. Particularly one of the lawsuit, where you're so proud of what you did—where you have the sense that you're on the right side, and that you did the right thing.
With the golden years in mind, what do you make of the fact that Newsweek will stop printing its weekly editions?
Well, I think it's a very sad day. I must say I felt like a knife went through my heart, that this great institution that was so important and has been [a] crusading kind of journalism is no longer going to exist, certainly as a magazine—and who knows what's going to happen to it online. In many ways, I feel it could've been avoided, which is why it makes it particularly tragic for many of us. People blame it on the weekly formula, but there're certainly weeklies that continue to be successful—The Economist,The New Yorker, New York magazine.Newsweek made mistakes in editorial direction, and it lost its edge when it went from a really deeply reported magazine to one of commentary, where commentary is so common now on the Web. I think it really lost a lot of its advantage, its edge, and its superiority.
Many of us who worked there over the years are talking to each other and feeling sad, and getting together to remember the good times, but we're feeling as if we lost our history. You'll say "Newsweek" in the future, and a generation won't even know what you're talking about.


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Planning lunch or dinner out with friends? Yarra Valley has some of the best Family Friendly dining options including restaurants that offer everything from fine dining to cheap casual lunches with a glass of wine. Choose from some of the best Family Friendly Restaurants in Yarra Valley.
Ezard At Levantine Hill
Ezard at Levantine Hill is a gastronomic partnership between hatted chef Teage Ezard and Levantine Hill Estate. Levantine Hill is one of the most visually remarkable and exquisite destinations you will ever find. Set amid the rolling hills of the Yarra Valley and surrounded by picturesque vineyards, it offers the perfect setting for your next event. Teage Ezard has taken his famed gourmet experience outside the city limits to offer locals and visitors to the Yarra Valley the perfect dining match to Levantine Hill's critically acclaimed wines. In amongst the stunning bucolic vineyard views, visitors can enjoy Levantine Hill wines matched to dishes inspired by the classic food styles of Europe, which Teage Ezard has enhanced with new flavours and combinations. The architecture has been personally designed by renowned architect Karl Fender of Fender Katsalidis Architects and interiors were meticulously designed by Molecule. The 100 metre sweep of the curved roof of the venue and the private barrel-like tasting booths reference the sleek curves of a wine barrel. On offer are two dining spaces. The All Day Dining space offers sharing plates to be enjoyed with great wine and company. The Signature Restaurant offers a five course and eight course tasting menu perfectly matched to Levantine Hill wines.
Flowerdale Estate
Flowerdale Estate is situated approximately 100kms or 70mins drive north of Melbourne CBD, and one hour from Tullamarine Airport. We sit in close proximity to the Yarra Valley, Victorias magnificent High Country and the Goulburn River Valley tourist and wine regions. For this very reason, Flowerdale Estate is a popular B&B option for weekend escapes. see our Accommodation and Specials.
Zonzo Estate
At Zonzo, the traditional Italian custom of the 'shared table' brings friends and family together to indulge in the very best of authentic Italian cuisine and premium wine. Situated within Zonzo Estate winery in the stunning Yarra Valley, Zonzo is surrounded by forty-five acres of vines and luscious lawn that not only provides picturesque views, but the opportunity for both adults and children to enjoy. Specialising in Italian cuisine, the Zonzo Menu boasts many delicious and authentic flavours, a true highlight being the wood-fired pizzas. In April 2016, Zonzo Estate proudly release their first ever estate wines. Included in this release was: Sauvignon Blanc, Chardonnay, Pinot Noir, Shiraz and Cabernet Sauvignon, all of which are receiving encouraging reviews. Zonzo Estate is also recognized as an award winning wedding reception, and has consecutively been named the Victorian State WINNER in the Restaurant Reception Category of the Australian Bridal Industry Awards for 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016.
Tokar Estate
With majestic sweeping views of Yarra Valley's finest vineyards, surrounding Victorian mountain ranges, stunning skylines and set in the picturesque dress circle of the acclaimed Yarra Valley, Tokar Estate is an ideal location in which to relax, soak up natures beauty, taste some exquisite wines and sample the most exotic cuisine this side of the Mediterranean.
Rochford Wines Yarra Valley
Rochford Winery in the heart of Victoria's Yarra Valley is more than just a winery – it is a total experience! Often identified with the iconic Australian "Day On the Green" music festivals, Rochford Winery is situated in one of the most stunning regions in Australia with breathtaking panoramic views of the Great Dividing Ranges. Located less than an hour's drive from Melbourne, Rochford Winery is synonymous with innovative events, food, wine and the glorious beauty of the Yarra Valley. The Winery showcases a restaurant, cafe and patio, cellar door, retail shop, wine club, art gallery and expansive natural amphitheatre and observation tower.
Gracie's Restaurant @ Flowerdale Estate
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The following is a sampling of calls received by the Town of Niagara Police between Feb. 25 and March 3. During that time period, patrols answered 160 calls.
Monday, Feb. 25
•North Whitham Drive at Military Road, traffic tickets. Tickets issued to driver who attempted to elude police after being seen in the area of his ex-girlfriend's house on Lawson Drive.
•Tuscarora Road and Effie Drive, traffic ticket. Driver ticketed for going through a stop sign/flashing red light making no attempt to stop.
•Tuscarora Road at Blank Road, suspicious person. Patrol dispatched on a report of a male who lunged at a passing vehicle, almost striking it. Negative results.
•2400 block of Military Road, larceny. Complainant reported that someone stole his iPhone 5 from his gym bag that was on the floor of the basketball court.
Tuesday, Feb. 26
•2600 block of Lockport Road, traffic ticket. Patrol observed a driver travel head-on into oncoming traffic. Driver, who was verbally abusive and uncooperative, was drinking from a large silver coffee cup and distracted at the time of the incident.
•2400 block of Military Road, accident. Vehicle was driven into a business. No injuries reported.
•Miller and Saunders Settlement Road, aid assist. Patrol assisted Lewiston Police with a one-car rollover accident.
Wednesday, Feb. 27
•8000 block of Quarry Road, larceny. Business reported someone stole five batteries to various pieces of machinery in the rear of the property. Value of the batteries was listed at $1,050.
•8900 block of Porter Road, injury accident. Driver reported that a vehicle pulled out of a parking lot into his path. Other driver was incoherent and not aware of where she was coming from or where she was going. Niagara Active Hose Volunteer Fire Co. and Rural Metro Ambulance were on the scene.
•Packard and Haseley roads, suspicious person. Patrol received a call of a man who appeared to be in distress walking down Packard Road. The man, who was wearing only a thin pair of hospital pants and a sweater, said he was trying to get to the bus terminal to go to Buffalo. Due to inclement weather, patrol transported the man to the terminal.
Thursday, Feb. 28
•1900 block of Military Road, shoplifting. An 18-year-old Buffalo woman was arrested after she reportedly entered a store, selected two pairs of earrings, two bracelets and two necklaces, put them in her pocket and left.
•5500 block of Porter Road, drug charge. State Police called patrol for assistance after stopping a vehicle and with two males recognizable from past police contact. A substance believed to be marijuana was found in the glove box. The 30-year-old Sixth Street man and 19-year-old McKenna Avenue man were ticketed for unlawful possession of marijuana.
Friday, March 1
•7100 block of Lockport Road, assist citizen. Patrol installed two child safety seats.
•Porter Road, injury accident. Driver reported she was stopped in traffic waiting to make a left turn into a store parking lot when she was struck from behind by another vehicle. She was taken to Mount St. Mary's Hospital and Health Center for evaluation of neck, chest and back pain. Other driver, whose vehicle had heavy front-end damage, was cited for following too closely.
Saturday, March 2
•200 block of Juanita Drive, fire. Patrol and Niagara Active Hose Volunteer Fire Co. responded to a dryer fire. Resident extinguished the minor fire herself. Fire department personnel moved the dryer outside.
•8500 block of Porter Road, EMS. Patrol assisted Rural Metro Ambulance with a 42-year-old male who fell on ice and was having difficulty breathing.
Sunday, March 3
•5500 block of Porter Road, driving while intoxicated. Patrol was notified of a possible DWI driver heading into the Town of Niagara. Patrol encountered the vehicle, driving in the wrong lane, at the apex of the hill and had to veer to the right to avoid a collision. The driver, a Whitney Avenue woman, continued in wrong lane, but slowed to about 25 mph, before finally stopping.
•Military Road, traffic ticket. Patrol observed driver heading northbound at speeds of 60 to 65 mph in a posted 30 mph zone. Driver said he was speeding because he had to pick his cousin up at his house.


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ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - January 30, 2013 --Mandi Smith's 5-month-old puppy disappeared from the family's Fort Campbell, Ky., yard 18 months ago. So when she got a call saying Pooka had turned up in northern New Mexico, she says she thought someone was playing a trick on her.
But it was no joke.
The now 2-year-old Chihuahua-dachshund mix was found wandering the streets in Espanola on Jan. 12, and was traced back to her military family by a microchip that Smith says had been installed just days before she went missing.
Smith and the dog were reunited at Albuquerque's Sunport on Wednesday.
Nina Stively of the Espanola Valley Humane Society says shelter workers have no idea how Pooka got to New Mexico. She says Pooka had recently had puppies and was still nursing when she was found. But attempts to find her puppies were unsuccessful.


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University to observe moment of silence for victims of 9/11 attacks
University to observe moment of silence for victims of 9/11 attacks
FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. —
The 'Muslim for Life' group will lead a blood drive outside Old Main for the third year in a row.
The blood drive will be held across from the Fulbright Peace fountain where Fayetteville Mayor Lioneld Jordan, religious leaders and people on campus will observe a moment of silence, remembering the victims of the 9/11 attacks.
'Muslim for Life' is a national group that has collected more than 11,000 units of blood across the country as a way to support their communities and remember the victims, all while promoting and educating people about the Muslim faith.