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Posted: Sun 13 May 2007, 12:22
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Pizzapup and Gaim
I have one minor annoyance that I would like some help with on Pizzapup. If I minimize Gaim, for all practical purposes, it simply disappears. Using the Vistablack theme, I see a golden square near the CPU and ethernet charts in the lower right hand corner of the screen. Most of the other themes show nothing or only the faintest of colored squares. With the other themes I can tell that the square is there by hovering with the mouse.
Is there some way to fix this so I can either always see a different color square or perhaps even some kind of icon?
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Posted: Sun 13 May 2007, 15:22
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the latest version of Gaim has it's own icon if you use Icewm and icewmtray
you can have an icon on the taskbar by having options in the file /root/.icewm/winoptions
the icons are independent, so you can have both icons at once ... screenshot:
if you don't have it configured so that it is pointing to a valid icon file, it will not display an icon on the taskbar, it will display a blank square, which might be invisible depending on the colours you are using
for example, my winoptions file has these lines:
gaim.icon: gaim.png
gaim.tray: 1
which will display an icon called gaim.png, if there is a file called gaim.png in the default path specified in the preferences file (you can also use the absolute path to the file in the file name, like this, if you have a png file there:
gaim.icon: /root/.icewm/gaim.png
gaim.tray: 1
you can remove the icon in the winoptions file by deleting those lines, or commenting the lines by putting a # character at the beginning of those lines
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Posted: Sun 13 May 2007, 20:56
Post subject: That got it
Thanks GuestToo. That seems to have gotten it. It appears that Pizzapup references Gaim.png but doesn't include it. It has Gaim32.png instead. So following your notes I changed the reference to Gaim32.png and everything acts the way I expected.
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Posted: Sun 13 May 2007, 22:34
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Whoops. Thanks for posting this. I'll fix that in the next version. I probably won't start on it until August or September though, as I'll be away over summer.
Between depriving a man of one hour from his life and depriving him of his life there exists only a difference of degree. --Muad'Dib
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Posted: Sat 19 May 2007, 07:23
Post subject: Gaim
I have not had any luck on getting Gaim to work. I have read every help file I can find but it simply won't connect. I have tried IRC, Aim and MSN to no avail. I have had the same problem with ver 2.13, 2.14, 2.15CE and 2.16. I am obviosly missing something. Any help would be appreciated.
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Posted: Mon 21 May 2007, 12:25
Post subject: Beyond the obvious
I'm a newbie myself so you may want to take my comments with a grain of salt.
Gaim worked like a champ for me the first crack out of the bat. The hardest thing I had to do was to remember all the passwords and account names so I could add them to Gaim.
The first step is so obvious that I hesitate to even mention it. Can you connect to the internet at all? Assuming your browser works as expected, keep in mind that there are internet connections and then there are internet connections. Gaim works for me at home but not at the office because my computer blocks all chat programs. Some schools block these as well. One way to see if this is what is happening is to visit a web-site that supports internet chatting. Try to connect to the AIM download site. If you can't connect to that but you can connect to Google then you are being blocked and there isn't much that can be done.
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Posted: Thu 24 May 2007, 17:06
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Hi Skimmel thanks for your reply.
I am reasonably new to Linux and puppy but have been involved heavily with computers and software development since 1977 that's why this silly little situation is so frustrating.
I have a very good connection as I use email, internet, Skype etc. I also have an 8M connection so it can be quite fast.
I can used web based IRC. I suspect it may be the firewall but then why doesn't it cause problem with the other connections?
I have accounts with AIM and MSn Messenger. I remember a while back you had to have the .NET protocol to make messenger work. Does GAIM allow for this?
This is the only time in 30 years I have not been able to successfully configure a software package, I must be getting old. As I stated earlier I have even tried this on other later versions of Puppy without success so it has me well and truely stumped.
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|2012-07-07, 20:56
|Link #163
Enjoying Snack Time!
Thanks for sharing. Do you have any with Inaba? She's just so awesome especially when she played the troll in order to confirm the truth if the body-swapping phenomena is actually real! God I just love her!
|2012-07-07, 21:22
|Link #165
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Canada
Went into this not really knowing what to expect and a basic summary of the plot. Nothing to write home about, but I found myself entertained from beginning to end. You can sense the potential in it though, so I'll be sticking around for a while.
|2012-07-08, 02:52
|Link #170
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
|2012-07-08, 06:36
|Link #172
Kimi no na wa?!
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hong Kong
Very interesting, just as expected! (I pretty much said 'screw that' to my backlog )
I agree, the character's could've used a bit of establishment. However, the dynamics between the club members were quite entertaining.
EDIT: Oh, and I lol'd at Inaba the troll.
|2012-07-08, 08:42
|Link #174
Monarch of Rughzenhaide
Hmm... so I tried the three "big" moe Slice of Life anime this season (Tari Tari, Koichoco and Kokoro Connect) and Kokoro Connect was the last of the bunch. This is excluding the three ecchi titles (Imouto fetish one, the Sengoku period heroes being moe girls one, and that male lead being a pervert one), which I won't be trying in the first place or sequels (Yuru Yuri S2).
To be frank, I didn't like this one too much and it's got little to do with any criticisms of "generic" or "fanservice" or whatnot. It's got more to do with how the body-switching plot was told. It practically came outta no where without explanation and the "body-switching" periods were completely random. It reminded me of the "rock" from Natsuiro Kiseki where the rock would grant miracles "because it can" and "when it wanted". Same deal here with the body-switching. I didn't feel there was much of a coherent stucture to the series' premise as it felt all over the place, at least from this first episode.
As for the fanservice, it was pretty mild so I have no real problem with it. Iori is just one big tease with a little bit of perverted spunk but that's about it. In fact I was amused (but not loling) at some of the jokes that were said by her. Reminded me of the more funnier moments of "NisioIsin-like dialogue" though far less masturbatory and rambling, but also slightly less funnier.
From the audiovisual side, it was largely unimpressive. Silver Link is known for pretty low-budget material and the same is the case here. Seriously, the anime looks like if it was made in 2005 or 2006. Audio wise, apart from that one mischievious track that was played in the classroom when the "self-inspection" took place, it was either largely absent or insignificant. In others words, the production values for this is quite mediocre as it was not very pleasing to look at.
In regards to characters, the female characters seem to be fine. We have a tsundere (albeit not a violent one hopefully), a playful genki one and a taskmaster type. I didn't get infuriated at any of them as they were largely inoffensive and as mentioned above I was amused at some of Iori's (the genki one) antics. The male characters however are more boring than watching grass grow and more generic than the sky is blue. However, uninteresting, milquetoast male characters seem to be a common problem for modern slice of life anime so I won't bag on it too much.
I do however, disagree with the K-on comparisons. Aside from the fact the character designs are from the same artist and Iori shares the same VA as Yui from K-on, the rest of the atmosphere and premise wasn't K-on like at all. K-on had a lot of goofy, airheaded humour and was also an all-female cast. Kokoro Connect seems to be more flirtatious and very may well deal with "gender" issues since it does have a mixed cast. We'll see if this is the case though. Not to mention K-on did have a musical element, regardless of the fact how much people debate regarding how much of a music anime K-on was.
So overall, I found this watchable but not really likable. Compared to Tari Tari, this completely pales. At least however it is vastly better than that revolting Koichoco's first episode so I'll definitely give it a few more episodes before giving the ultimatum.
|2012-07-08, 08:45
|Link #175
Megane girl fan
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Diagonally parked in a parallel universe.
Age: 50
Picked this at random out of the list without knowing anything about it. Seems to be OK so far. Is body switching the whole premise of the show? Also, girls wearing boxers, and moles seem to run in the family.
Did Iori get a half-priced bento and did she have to fight for it?
Endless "120 yen per peek" Soul
|2012-07-08, 11:27
|Link #176
Not an expert on things
Join Date: Jun 2007
It seemed off for some reason to me. I probably should've liked it more than I did, but for some reason some of the jokes were grating, especially with Inaba. I'll stick with it for now to see where it goes. I just hope I just need to get used to it.
|2012-07-08, 13:00
|Link #177
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Warner Robins, Georgia USA
I don't care much for the body-swapping trick. But I really like these characters and I could easily watch them in yet another high school slice-of-life. "120 per look" cracked me up and imouto at the end was the clincher. Cute! Enjoyed all the the family elements as well. I already hope this is more than one season but I doubt it.
|2012-07-08, 19:15
|Link #179
Guess what time it is?
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Age: 33
Not exactly gripping stuff in the first episode, but the easy, friendly feel that the club members have with each other feels very natural and genuine, and I love when a show can pull that off. I guess they really want to get into things next episode, because they hammered hard on identifying basic character traits for everyone pretty dutifully. I think that's about all the introduction we're going to get for those five. Off to the races next week.
|2012-07-08, 20:04
|Link #180
User of the "Fast Draw"
It was a bit mixed. Maybe in part of watching so many first episodes one after another, but this really didn't leave a major impact on me.
Will say that Iori was pretty entertaining especially early on in the episode. Maybe not that big of a surprise that the energy is covering up a lonely home life. Trying to convince everyone that everything is going great regardless of how things actually are.
Kind of sad that they had to spend so much time just convincing Inaba that bodies really were swapped. Just let her wait until she gets swapped and then it'll be easier to swallow.
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Did you believe in Santa when you were a kid? I'm guessing that most of us did, at least we did if our families enacted the whole Santa ritual, with the lists, cookies, stockings and whatnot. My family did this, and I have fond memories of waking up at five a.m. on Christmas mornings, running downstairs with my brother and taking stock of our loot (which kept us conveniently occupied while my parents slooooowly got out of bed, ate breakfast, drank coffee and then finally made their way to the living room so we could get to the goods under the tree… I can see the method behind the madness, now that I'm a mom). The thing is, I don't remember actually believing in Santa. But I do remember pretending to believe in Santa, for my parents' benefit. Like, there we all were playing up this cookies for—and presents from—Santa thing. Who was I to point out that he had the same handwriting as my mom? Everyone seemed to be having so much fun with the whole fantasy that I went along with it, "Yeah… Santa!" so as not to burst the bubble of enjoyment that my parents clearly savored over my apparent innocence to the fact that reindeer don't fly.
I also remember Santa's existence being a topic of hot debate in, say, second grade or so. The kids were onto the act, and finally a semi-fundamentalist Christian friend (whose family felt Santa was a marketing scheme that distracted from the true meaning of the holiday— a valid opinion for the very religious, no doubt) laid it out for all on the playground who cared to hear that Santa was not, in fact, real. This is probably the age at which most kids figure it out, but I wonder now if some of those kids actually still believed in the guy and felt disappointed, heartbroken or even betrayed. I recall just finding the whole thing fascinating, and wondering what the deal was with the grown-ups creating this myth in the first place. I mean, adults LOVE Santa Claus, do we not? He's a sentimental figure that, for many of us, personifies this whole jolly season. I like a good Norman Rockwell as much as the next girl, but, even so, now that Kaspar's almost two and a TOTAL sponge, I found myself wondering this year whether we were going to tell him about Santa or not. Which surprised me. But there it is.
Kaspar had a super fun Christmas last year, tearing open his presents and feeding off of our excitement ("First Christmas!!! YYAAAAY!"). He didn't have any context to understand what we were doing, but he dug it. We read The Grinch and The Night Before Christmas, and he enjoyed those books as much as he does all books, but I don't think he really picked up on the Santa thing to a strong degree. We never got around to putting those books 'away for next year,' so he's actually read them many, many times over now that it's December again. Even so, we've had a crazy busy fall and haven't yet decorated (we're getting a tree today), gone to the mall for a sitting with the big guy (kind of avoiding that, actually… I hate malls), or talked Christmas up much at all. But, since we're getting the tree and have a few holiday parties on the calendar in the coming weeks, I'm thinking we either need to do this thing, or officially decide to go silent on Santa until next year, when we'll weigh the options again.
I didn't expect to experience this hesitation (I'm even dancing around it in writing this post… Are you wondering 'what's your problem, Taylor?!' yet?). But since Kaspar's not yet hearing about Santa in school-- the toddler set is, across the board, kind of clueless-- I haven't had to talk about it. So if I do talk about it, that'll be a deliberate move. "Hey, Kaspar… Santa's coming. We don't have a chimney, so I guess he's going to walk in the front door while we're all sleeping, and leave a bunch of presents here. Which isn't creepy at all." And once I've told him this story, do I just roll with it until he asks me if I've been lying, or, in the event that he pulls a move like I did, keep rolling with it long past his silent disillusionment sets in?
Perhaps I'm over-thinking this. The fact is, I'm not quite sure where I stand on it. We're not religious (I'm a laid-back Buddhist by default), so I'm not worried about watering down the true meaning of Christmas. And I love the parties, foods, songs, lights and decorating that take place at this time of year… This is not a bah-humbug moment at all. I don't want to raise Kaspar up with a cold, hard line of "There is no Santa. It's a culturally sanctioned lie," but I'm thinking we might hold off another year, celebrate Christmas in our low-key way at home and wait and see what kinds of questions might spark the Santa convo down the road. I plan to expose Kaspar to all kinds of traditions from a wide range of faiths, and maybe even make a winter solstice celebration the centerpiece of our family's holiday festivities in the future. I might just tell Kaspar that Santa is a fun Christmas character, that some children believe he's real, and that we can still hang our stockings while knowing Santa's part of a story. Kids easily walk the line between what's real and imaginary all the time. Perhaps allowing Kaspar the insight that what's magic about Christmas is that all people, young and old, love to imagine, will maintain the special parts of Christmas without requiring I uphold a farce… and without 'leaving him out', or prematurely jaded, as a result of my honesty.
But then, if he comes home from school (or the supermarket or one of the many other places where Santa is promoted) with the assumption that the dude in the sleigh is coming our way… no questions asked… I might go for it and pretend, for his sake, until he doesn't want me to anymore.
What's your take on Santa? Are you all for it? Have any of you hesitated to tell your kids Santa's real? How do you plan to handle it—or how have you done so—if and when your kids start asking questions? For those of you who don't celebrate Christmas, how have you talked to your kids about Santa, given that other children believe in him? I'm looking forward to your thoughts on this!


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Posted: Thu 30 Sep 2010, 21:46
Post subject: Re: xampp
ragou wrote:
Hi everybody.
First I want to apologize - I am not a Linux user or developer. I like puppy linux because it's very fast and reminds me the days when our machines were too slow, with little RAM and with video cards of 1 MB.
The question is - how can I install xampp and how can I run it?
For example - I have xampp in Windows and when I press "xampp_start.exe" I have a server and that's all. It is located on my hard disk at the (for example) E:\xampp\htdocs\ and it's URL is http://localhost/. In my Windows meaning, what have I to do to start the server in puppy environment?
If there are answers ( I hope so), please give them to me in a understandable language. Something like "login as root and su and so on" means nothing to me. Just a simple explanation step by step.
I have been noticed that Linux users are speaking in a language that they only can understand. It is something I can understand, but I use Windows for almost 20 years. Russians for example call drivers "wood", CPU "stone" etc. because they want to show that they are an elite and unique community. I am not. I just want to try Linux. Don't let me be misunderstood - my machine is fast enough to run any OS. I just want to try. But when I am in Puppy, a can't do anything except clicking on icons, but if I am able to setup my own server I will be able to do something. I am C++ an VB programmer (VB 6 is my love), but I wrote my last application 3 years ago, now I want to do something with Linux. It's not for money - I am retired (58 years old).
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Posted: Fri 01 Oct 2010, 19:29
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If you ftp your way into ibiblio.org, you find the official puppy versions. Me I am stuck in 5.10, as its the only puppy that has wood for my weird modems. If you chose that or the 5.1.1. Install, but do not chose tosave pupfile. Boot from stone and then rebot again, this time choosing to save a Pupsave file to stone. When booted again you can then proceed to download and install this file:
It contains:
Hiawatha 7.3
MariaDB - (Formerly known as mysql) 5.1.47
PHP 5.3.3 - using the new Fast CGI manager
and PhpMyAdmin 3.3.5
If 5.10 is chosen due to it wood for modems, you must install one webbrowser from the Quickpet or so. There are also other Pup
py versions with Apache server etc, but they are in lack of these modem drivers I need. But they are built on older base system than the above mentioned, so I personally like the newer stuff.
Apart from that i would also recommend TurboPuppy, as showcase for how fast Puppy can get. Download here:
That is not a webserver, but if you look around the forum, it can soon become one. Also there is other superlight Linux versions.
Have a look here for 10mb distro:
Then there is a nice 30mb distro with support for 486 here:
Still, speaking for my self, i find the 5.10 Lucid (puppy linux) to be the best choice, due to the mobile modem support(3g, CDMA what what what)
My p
ersonal aim is to create a Puppy 5.10 Live CD with a webserver running a preinstalled Joomla 1.5.20 for a project i have in Africa, but i have still not succeeded:-(
But i am very close:-)
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Posted: Sat 23 Oct 2010, 17:25
Post subject: Fix for mysql failed login
I got this PM from Michael
I just installed the latest LHMP-7.3-5.1.47-5.3.3
and was unable to login...
MySQL said: Documentation
#1045 - Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
After searching for an answer I found it here:
execute /etc/init.d/rc.mysqld stop
kill any latent processes
kill `cat /usr/local/bin/mysql.pid`
create mysql-init file, add the following three lines
grant all privileges on *.* to root@localhost;
UPDATE mysql.user SET Password=PASSWORD('woofwoof') WHERE User='root';
execute the following command
mysqld_safe --init-file=/root/mysql-init &
remove the mysql-init file !!
Everything is working great now!
P.S. I don't have an account on the Puppy Linux Forum,
and thought someone else may be having the same login problem. After searching for hours I found the above website
and it had the instructions to fix the login problem.
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Posted: Mon 07 Feb 2011, 17:00
Post subject: Seeking info on LHMP-7.3-5.1.47-5.3.3.pet
Has anyone else used the pet from here http://www.logicworks.co.nz/puppy/LHMP-7.3-5.1.47-5.3.3.pet that contains these apps?:
Hiawatha 7.3
MariaDB 5.1.47
PhpMyAdmin 3.3.5
I see it mentioned in the 2 pages below but I have not been able to find
info on how well it works and what type of config/troubleshooting I should be aware of. I have Puppy 5.1.1. I'm somewhat of a noobie and have successfully installed servers one at a time spread out over several months in the past but not all at once.
--and here--
Is this .pet referred in any other way besides "LHMP-7.3-5.1.47-5.3.3.pet"? Is the LHMP-7.3-5.1.47-5.3.3.pet what is referred to as webERP? I haven't quite acquired a good understanding of what: webERP, Joomlah, and LAMP and XAMPP are yet.
Based on what I've found out so far, LHMP-7.3-5.1.47-5.3.3.pet looks most appealing to me. That's direction I'd like to go when installing a DB. Any answers and comments on your experiences appreciated. Thanks.
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Posted: Mon 07 Feb 2011, 23:56
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I created it ... works well for me every day!
Happy to answer any queries or issues you may have with it.
It is called LHMP-7.3-5.1.47-5.3.3.pet
LHMP because:
- Linux
- Hiawatha - in most such bundles this component is Apache - hence LAMP
- Maria Mysql
7.3 because uses Hiawatha 7.3
5.1.47 because uses Maria Mysql 5.1.47
5.3.3 because uses PHP 5.3.3
It does need a machine with a little more horsepower - than some puppy environments may have though - there is a report of timeout issues on one such humble puppy machine
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Posts: 13
Posted: Tue 08 Feb 2011, 03:44
Post subject: Nice. Works.
I broke the MySQL component when making it more secure but then fixed it after reading your Sat 23 Oct 2010, 17:25 post. At first I didn't think I could get this going in one night but I did and it works. I did notice 3 minor things in case you want to know about them:
I got this minor error message but it doesn't seem to matter:
# /etc/init.d/rc.httpd start
Error binding 0.0.0.0:80
I also thought I didn't have to start MySQL just after installing (I know I don't after a reboot) but maybe I missed something:
# /etc/init.d/rc.mysqld start
sh-3.00# 110207 17:22:25 mysqld_safe Logging to '/usr/local/var/puppypc.err'.
110207 17:22:25 mysqld_safe A mysqld process already exists
I had to reinstall "LHMP-7.3-5.1.47-5.3.3.pet" to take a screen pic of the installation splash screen because it didn't stay up long enough for me to take notes on it the first time.
Anyway, now I also understand LAMP vs LHMP and I'm glad this is running. Thanks for all and great work growler!
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Posts: 34
Posted: Sat 19 Mar 2011, 12:23
Post subject:
As I'm trying to set up a webserver on an Igel thin client, 300MHz Geode processor, 256M ram,
my first try is with the pup-431-small iso, guessing it might have advantages for the server's limited resources, not too sure it's the best choice, see below. This makes LHMP-7.3-5.1.47-5.3.3.pet not work, needed a library compiled with a newer gcc, afaict. Phil has sent me an older LAMP-6.16-5.1.35-5.29.pet that works but is giving me errors.
Referring to
Growler's weberp page
and throwing google hit suggestions at it, plus employing Michael's workaround from above, I've run mysql_install_db, successfully, but keep getting a socket connection error.
ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp' (111)
Since it is
to troubleshoot this on 300MHz/256M, I've booted to this CF on my desktop, posting from that, and get some interesting new results, starting with an oldie but goodie:
# /usr/local/bin/mysql_secure_installation
NOTE: RUNNING ALL PARTS OF THIS SCRIPT IS RECOMMENDED FOR ALL MySQL
In order to log into MySQL to secure it, we'll need the current
password for the root user. If you've just installed MySQL, and
you haven't set the root password yet, the password will be blank,
so you should just press enter here.
Enter current password for root (enter for none):
ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp' (111)
Enter current password for root (enter for none):
Cleaning up...
# # mysql -u root -p woofwoof
# # mysql -u root -p woofwoof
# ps aux|grep mys
root 8577 0.0 0.0 2228 1180 ? S 07:56 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe --user=nobody --pid-file=/usr/local/var/mysql.pid
nobody 8848 0.0 0.3 90708 11532 ? Sl 07:56 0:00 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/usr/local --datadir=/usr/local/var --user=nobody --log-error=/usr/local/var/puppypc.err --pid-file=/usr/local/var/mysql.pid --socket=/tmp/mysql.sock --port=3306
root 14630 0.0 0.0 1656 556 pts/0 R+ 08:41 0:00 grep mys
Hmmm, I don't understand why the command from the weberp page just returns to prompt, so I try going to http://localhost/phpMyAdmin/index.php and can see the page, with a notice that I'd, also, like help with, please:
The configuration file now needs a secret passphrase (blowfish_secret).
I don't know if Seamonkey has saved credentials for this page (I've been able to get here, before; it seems I can browse all the phpmyadmin pages) but I'm going to give it a rest, wait for the wisdom to point my way forward.
Forward-looking statement, I've got GF's
running Joomla but I'm interested in making this simple page (as in Seamonkey Composer simple, e.g.
) with my low-skilz unwebmaster abilities.
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Posted: Sat 19 Mar 2011, 15:04
Post subject:
Hmmm, I don't understand why the command from the weberp page just returns to prompt
That would be because I copy/pasted the # prompt
Without that, I am prompted for the password and, when I give woofwoof, get an error:
# mysql -u root -p woofwoof
Enter password:
ERROR 1049 (42000): Unknown database 'woofwoof'
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Posts: 209
Location: Kapiti - New Zealand
Posted: Sat 19 Mar 2011, 15:47
Post subject: unknown db woofwoof
Do"nt have a space between the "-p" and "woofwoof"
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Posted: Sat 19 Mar 2011, 17:25
Post subject:
Ah, that's the ticket. New login works at the phpmyadmin page. Thanks!
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Posts: 24
Location: London UK
Posted: Tue 22 Mar 2011, 09:16
Post subject: the old Webserver puppy
Subject description: Grub not booting
i have used the old webserver puppy.iso and have done for the past 2/3 years, all has been working fine and i have got 2 grate websites that i have made for training kids.
i have installed this on the a HDD, and i think i did a none MBR install. the PC has been stored for about 8 months and not used all was working with it unit i plug it in today to make sure that all is still well now.
I had problems booting up it got so far then hung... couldn't mount the DVD drive... then rebooted and had problems with line 36 in GRUB rebooted then problems with line 37 in GRUB. now i get errors trying to boot GRUB.
Now the power of RTFS tells me that there might be a problem with GRUB. As im not a GRUB person..... (or a GRUBy if you see what i mean). I have taken this HDD and put it in my Ubuntu desktop to see if i can access it this will not mount .. so take it that its cos i have done a none MBR install. so i have done a "scandisk" using Disk Utility and that has shown that i have got 3 sectors errors. i bet this has got to be in the GRUB part of the disk. (just a guess).
How could i fix this if the HDD will not boot? its just that i would love to save the websites i have made on the HDD. (they are written in Pluck so no DB to worry about
Many thanks for you time.
Compaq Evo N410c, P3 1.2Ghz, 1Gb RAM, 80Gb, Wireless / Wired NIC. Puppy Linux 5.01
Ubuntu 10.04 LTSP (5 terminals)
Anything can be done its just when do you need it by
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Posts: 71
Posted: Tue 22 Mar 2011, 10:37
Post subject: Re: the old Webserver puppy
Subject description: Grub not booting
Hi! Do you have any youtube tutorials,like how to make a server using
Webserverpuppy LAMP and XAMPP?
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Posts: 24
Location: London UK
Posted: Tue 22 Mar 2011, 14:12
Post subject: Webserverpuppy
Subject description: Where is it now
Dose anyone still have this puppy ISO anywhere on there system
Download and information:
As we all know that this link is not there anymore. the only good news is that brouserpup is still there and is being updated. good work with that i love it and put it on as meany systems as i can for use in the labs.
Is there a puppy that has got a already done / setup and working with the following. ........
- Bluefish web development studio
- Medit text editor
- Apache webserver
- Mysql
- phpMyAdmin
- PureFTP or ProFTPD FTP-server
- Seamonkey Web-browser and composer
- gFTP[url]
Its just that most of the hardware we run in the charity is high end P2 right upto low end P4. I know im after a pitbull a learn mean web-surfing PC i know it dont rime, but you get what i mean)
p.s. i dont mind what version of pitbull / puppy i have as i know that it would work on all of the PC/servers we have, also that i would be nice if it looked like the old frontend too nice and easy to setup (click and button here and click and there all done)[/url]
Many thanks for you time.
Compaq Evo N410c, P3 1.2Ghz, 1Gb RAM, 80Gb, Wireless / Wired NIC. Puppy Linux 5.01
Ubuntu 10.04 LTSP (5 terminals)
Anything can be done its just when do you need it by
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Posts: 34
Posted: Tue 22 Mar 2011, 20:26
Post subject: Re: the old Webserver puppy
Subject description: Grub not booting
keiffee0521 wrote:
I had problems booting up it got so far then hung... couldn't mount the DVD drive...
DVD's go stale and, if you were running a live CD/DVD, I'd be thinking of that. However, you say this is a hard disk install, so I don't see how the DVD drive enters into it. If you're not booting from it, you could try disconnecting it.
How could i fix this if the HDD will not boot? its just that i would love to save the websites i have made on the HDD. (they are written in Pluck so no DB to worry about
With a working DVD/CD drive, I would suggest booting some livecd, e.g. Puppy, and trying to mount that drive, try to figure out what's wrong. Precise information wrt actual actions taken and the results, including exact messages from the screen, are what is needed for a remote diagnosis.
If nothing was done but shutting down the machine for a long period, then starting it up, it's hard to imagine what is the problem. If something was changed, that is, also, important information.
I would say, if the disk can't be mounted, there's something wrong with the partition table, whether disk failure or inadvertent formatting. (Aside: there has to be support for the filesystem in the kernel in order to mount a partition, e.g. I've got a reiserfs4 partition but have to boot a kernel with that enabled in order to mount and view it.)
I've had some success with photorec and testdisk for retrieving files from a fubar disk: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download
Going a little deeper toward mechanically failing and soon to be completely dead drive, there is Spinrite by Gibson: http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm which is a retail product.
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Posts: 34
Posted: Sun 27 Mar 2011, 23:16
Post subject: Update
To finish this chapter, I've got the Igel thin client serving
and, after
[rolf@salon ~]$ uptime
09:09:04 up 94 days, 42 min, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
on the first server, our website is drawing less than 100W 24/7/365.25
Currently perched on top of the former, power-sucking mini tower:
29 April 2010, 10:30
missing line:
ExecuteCGI = yes
CGIextension = cgi
That bit of hiawatha.conf from the
Hiawatha Forum
was the last of many stabs in the dark by this noob to website admin, thanks to google and thanks to you, Phil, for your help.
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A FORCE Named Fund provides donors with the opportunity to make gifts that will have a lasting impact while recognizing your family, or honoring or memorializing a loved one.
Linda Pedraza was a member of the FORCE Board of Directors and a staunch patient advocate for hereditary breast and ovarian cancer. She survived ovarian cancer, only to succumb at age 45 of breast cancer.
We have created the Linda Pedraza Memorial Scholarship Fund in Linda's name to honor her memory. Donations to FORCE are tax-deductible. 100% of the fund donations will go to provide financial support to people who cannot afford to attend our national conference.
Many companies will also match donations made by their employees. Please ask your employer if your company has a matching gifts policy.
To donate via check, please put Linda Pedraza in the memo field, make check payable to FORCE and mail to: FORCE, Facing Our Risk of Cancer Empowered, 16057 Tampa Palms Bvd., W, Tampa, FL 33647.
Words cannot express just how grateful I am to FORCE and the generous donors to the Linda Pedraza Scholarship Fund for giving me and my sisters the opportunity to attend such a wonderful and educational conference.
Until the conference my sisters never accepted my diagnose of breast cancer or the possibility of a hereditary link to my diagnosis. Through attending the conference my sisters now better understand their own risk factors.
In the documentary In The Family one of my sisters said about her cancer risk, "If it is unknown to me, let it stay unknown." Since the conference two of my sisters have agreed to inquire about genetic testing for themselves.
I am a survivor of stage IV breast cancer and I live in a predominantly African-American, low income neighborhood. It is often hard for women here to get access to proper care and information. I have shared the information that I learned at the conference with other high-risk members in my local community.
I thank FORCE for providing my family with the information and loving support that has led them to open their eyes and confront the cancer risk in our family and for providing me with the opportunity to give back to my community by sharing the life-saving information that I learned at the Joining FORCEs Conference.
I was 33, unmarried, and childless when I tested positive for the BRCA mutation.
My appointment to hear my results was in the same medical complex where my sister Mary was recovering from bilateral mastectomy. At 36, she was diagnosed with breast cancer and positive for a BRCA mutation.
Despite seeing the effects of cancer up close, I wasn't fully convinced of its power. Although surgery was an option I had considered, my fear led to inaction.
Then I met Linda Pedraza through the Joining FORCEs Conference.
Without the generosity of donors to the conference scholarship fund, I wouldn't have been able to attend. At the time, I didn't earn enough to travel to Tampa from Boston. I was fortunate to be awarded a scholarship.
As I watched In the Family at the conference, Linda Pedraza spoke to me. In the film Linda says, "I'm living proof that the technology doesn't always catch things."
Living proof. And then I realized: Linda isn't living anymore.
It was the conference, and Joanna Rudnick's film that motivated me to collect
the information that I needed to consider my options. During that amazing weekend
I attended presentations by top researchers on all aspects of hereditary breast
and ovarian cancer. I gained courage from all the other people at the conference
trying to make sense of what to do with their hereditary knowledge. What I
gained at the conference was a valuable, even life-saving experience that I
will never forget.
"LUVN LFE". My husband and I were on the way to the hospital when we saw the words on the license plate of the car in front of us. Those words became my spiritual motto on the morning of June 20, 2007. That was the day of my prophylactic bilateral mastectomies.
The words seemed preordained and calmed my fears. After all, that was the reason for my surgery. I love my life and will do what it takes to preserve it. I'm a previvor.
My hope is that I will see my children grow up. My mother was not able to do that. She was diagnosed with ovarian cancer at the age of thirty-eight and passed away within 5 months. I was sixteen with four younger siblings; my youngest sister was only ten months old. In addition to my mom, my grandmother, aunt, sister, and cousin have all been affected by either ovarian or breast cancer.
Genetic testing revealed that I have the BRCA1 mutation. Thanks to the generosity of others, I received a scholarship to the conference through the Linda Pedraza Conference Scholarship Fund. The information I received at the conference, helped empower me to make decisions and move forward with a management plan. I met so many wonderful women who were willing to talk and share their stories. I realized that I wasn't alone in this journey.
I thought that when I was finished with my surgeries I would want to forget about all of this, and go on with my life. However, I've become passionate about FORCE and the many ways the organization can help women and their families with issues surrounding hereditary breast and ovarian cancer. I am an Outreach Coordinator for Cincinnati, Ohio and Northern Kentucky and I'm loving life!!!


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Down by the river, the mud is skimmed with ice — crisp spectral lace that forms, transforms and disappears in the midday sun. We've had a few hard frosts in the past week, yet the green things on the riverbank keep on growing. There's Yellowdock, Watercress, Violets (just a few), Sweet Clover, Horsetail, Landcress and even a few vibrant Lobelias. These reliable green patches keep me sane and happy til the Spring explosion many months from now. Snow is threatening on the horizon but I'll believe it when I see it. Rhiannon has a little sign outside the kitchen door that says, "Let it snow!" so that Mama Nature will know we're good and ready.
Yesterday Loba and I tore down a great big beaver dam that was flooding the road. I'd really like to have kept the dam, but the road was underwater and there was no other way around it. Hopefully they'll take the hint and move a little downriver, where they can raise the water level all they like, at least until Spring rains come along and break down the dam with the floods.
If you've never closely examined or broken down a dam, you won't know just how clever these creatures are. They should have honorary engineering degrees, their handiwork is made of mud, rocks, trees, leaves and whatever else is handy. And boy is it tough. It's carefully woven, twined and wrapped together to make taking it apart one giant pain the butt. Or in this case, a pain in the neck, hands, back and butt. As soon as we got back to the cabin, we slathered our hands and banged bits with Comfrey and Larrea, which greatly reduced the bruising, swelling and soreness. It also stopped the bleeding on my poor lacerated fingers. And after working in cold water for several hours, all our muscles and joints with a bit stiff and cold.
Unsurprisingly, today I had neck muscle spasms from yesterday's not so wise maneuvers with overly large logs. Rather than being pissed about the pain I was excited to take this moment to re-prove my favorite liniment for dislocated discs and other inflamed, screaming neck pains. Rose petals and Wild Cherry bark. This may seem a bit strange at first, but really makes perfect sense when you think about the Rose family anti-inflammatory and sedative properties. They stop spasms, reduce heat locally, increase circulation and promote healing. Very nice, and two hours later, my neck feels better than it has in a while. It seems as if the liniment has resolved some other issues that were festering in there, since I can now turn my head without causing a stabbing headache. Too bad it took an injury to get my attention enough to treat myself.
Rose and Cherry are best used where there's pain, heat and local irritation. They're cooling and soothing, great for acute situations but less so for chronic issues that have gotten colder and stiffer. Now that the sharp pains have passed, I'd probably be wise to use a more warming oil blend of Ginger, Rose, Cottonwood and Sage to keep the neck loose and healing. And maybe some Vervain and Peony Root internally for added anti-spasmodic, nervine and potentially pain relieving effects.
I've primarily used this simple formula specifically for neck problems, but I think it will also be effective for similar situations in other parts of the body.
Wild Rose & Chokecherry Liniment
1 part Rose petal tincture (Wild or other fragrant species)
1 part Chokecherry bark tincture
Combine, and apply liberally to affected area. That was easy, eh? You could also macerate equal parts of both plants in rubbing alcohol for a cheaper but stinkier solution. I like a fresh plant tincture of the Roses but strong dried petals will work too. Combine with whole Rose hips for even greater effect.
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I love the way you view pain as a message to be carefully heeded — not an enemy to be stamped out.
I've enjoyed reading your lovely posts for quite a while now. Your gift for description pulls me into the woods and fields right along with you.
Along the way, I've come to understand what plants can do for the body. How wonderful to find new ways to appreciate old favorites!
Best wishes,
~ Jessica


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The sleepy Central Coast town of Arroyo Grande, population 17,000, is the ideal place to shut out the mayhem of city life for a few days. There's not much to do except relax, drink wine, read your book and take sunset strolls.
The bed. House of Another Tyme Bed & Breakfast (227 Le Point St.; [805] 489-6313; rooms for two, $120) is a remodeled Victorian home that dates to 1916 and contains three guest rooms. The B&B is run by husband-and-wife Jack Tiedemann and Judy Zwarg. Judy cooks a tasty breakfast quiche accompanied by bacon, hot homemade muffins and coffee. Jack writes and has penned a book about the house's friendly ghost the couple calls "Hannah." We never saw the ghost on our visit in March, but we were happy that the rooms were quiet and without TVs, and that the inn was walking distance of the town's main street.
The meal. Although you might be tempted to start and end your dining experience with homemade ice cream from Doc Burnstein's Ice Cream Lab (the Peanut Butter Cup Delight is divine), do yourself a favor and stop for dinner — or appetizers — at Gather Wine Bar (122 E. Branch St.; [805] 474-4771; no single item over $20, except bottles of wine). Genial owner Kari Ziegler is happy to ply you with tastes of small-batch wines such as Liquid Farm Rose of Mourvedre and Sea Shell Cellars Blend. Asparagus-mushroom flatbread, creamy mac 'n' cheese and charcuterie will fill you up.
The find. The Santa Manuela Schoolhouse (127 Short St.; [805] 489-8282; free) was built in 1901 and is the last remaining one-room schoolhouse in San Luis Obispo County. Stepping into it is like stepping back in time. Squat wooden desks with ink wells, original slate boards, antiquated books and lunch pails, and a genuine dunce cap will leave you filled with wonder at the way things were.
The lesson learned. Don't jump up and down on the town's famous 171-foot swinging bridge, which was built in 1875 over the Arroyo Grande Creek and is the only bridge of its kind in the state. You'll want to bounce around on it because it's goofy good fun, but that swinging feeling makes you queasy.
The tab. If you don't count gas for the 350-mile round trip, we spent about $420, including $120 a night (for two nights) at House of Another Tyme, and $45 at Gather Wine Bar.


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Chrysler sales up 6 pct. as 2013 finishes strong
January 3, 2014
DETROIT (AP) — Chrysler says its U.S. sales rose 6 percent last month, a sign that automakers closed 2013 with strong numbers.
The company sold just over 161,000 cars and trucks in December, up from about 152,000 a year ago.
Chrysler's Jeep brand finished 2013 up 3 percent with more than 490,000 sales for the year. Jeep sales worldwide set a new record. The brand was led by the new Cherokee small SUV with 15,000 sales in December.
Industry analysts expect a total U.S. sales gain of about 4 percent in December and an annual gain of around 8 percent. Chrysler's sales rose 9 percent for the year. But the industry growth rate is expected to slow in 2014 to around 3 percent.
All automakers report sales on Friday.


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My passion for wildlife was stimulated in my teenage years, mainly thanks to my Mum (a biology teacher) who made me look at the world differently and being inspired by writers such as Paul Colinvaux. This early interest developed into biological research in my 20s, when I did practical conservation work in places such as the Comores and Mongolia.
Today, any free time I have I spend pottering around the flatlands of East Anglia or escaping to our hut on the Northumberland coast looking for wildlife and castles with my wife and children.
I studied Biological Sciences at Oxford and Conservation at UCL, and worked at Wildlife and Countryside Link before spending five years as Conservation Director at Plantlife.
I joined the RSPB as Head of Government Affairs in 2004, became Head of Sustainable Development in 2006, before becoming Conservation Director in 2011.
Here is a guest blog from Richard Benyon, Minister for Natural Environment and Fisheries, all about the new Nature Improvement Areas, announced by Defra on Monday:
"The RSPB has played an invaluable role in helping us deliver our vision for Nature Improvement Areas. The RSPB, along with the Wildlife Trusts, have helped lead the way in taking forward landscape-scale projects that enhance our habitats and species but also, vitally, reconnect people with the natural world.
The RSPB's Futurescapes programme, which has been working across the UK, has seen you work closely with landowners to creates space for nature. These areas, up and down the country, are helping make the places that provide public goods and services more wildlife friendly.
The benefits are clear. Not only will we end up with large, joined-up high quality conservation areas but we will also see cleaner water in our rivers and wetlands, and more sustainable, low-carbon communities that enhance the rural economy. And as if that wasn't enough, they will also help the natural environment and local communities adapt to climate change.
I believe that these NIAs will not only restore species and create new habitats but will also provide local employment opportunities and enable the promotion of locally grown food. I hope the 12 NIAs will be trail-blazers and that the success of the Partnerships will encourage the development of others around the country.
The RSPB has played a key role in developing these partnerships, which involve – among others - a range of NGOs and Civil Society organisations, landowners, local authorities, businesses, National Parks and universities.
I am delighted to announce that the RSPB will be leading both the Dark Peak NIA Partnership in the Peak District National Park, which will secure the enhancement of 5,800 hectares of blanket bog on five peatland plateaus and the restoration of upland heathland on 2,700 hectares in 12 areas. It will also lead to the creation of 210 hectares of native woodland, improved public access and the restoration of traditional hay meadows.
The RSPB will also be leading on the Dearne Valley Green Heart NIA and playing a significant role in the Greater Thames Marshes Partnership, which falls within one of your key Futurescape project areas. And you will also be playing key roles in five other NIA Partnerships – the Humberhead Levels, Meres and Mosses of the Marches, Nene Valley, South Downs and Wild Purbeck.
These partnerships will see the restoration of ponds and wetland areas, the creation of new woodlands, the reduction of diffuse pollution from agriculture in rivers and the enhancement of grazing marsh, saltmarsh and mudflat habitats. They will also boost our farmland bird populations.
I am delighted that the RSPB has warmly welcomed the NIAs and I have been deeply impressed with the partnership work and sheer enthusiasm that the competition has generated. Today marks a new and exciting opportunity to enhance and restore our habitats and species and I look forward to visiting as many NIAs in the next 12 months as I can.
I hope that the learning from these 12 NIAs will encourage many more NIAs to be set up across the country fulfilling our NEWP ambition to see NIAs wherever the benefits or the opportunities are greatest, driven by the knowledge and expertise of local people.
Please be assured that this is far from the total of our ambitions. Our Natural Environment White Paper and the England Biodiversity Strategy show many other ways we in Government will work with others to reverse the decline in the quality of our natural environment."
What do you think of the Minister's comments?
I am sure that he would love to hear your views.
Nearly a decade ago, the RSPB coined a phrase to sum up our conservation challenge. We wanted to stop the rot, protect the best and restore the rest.
At times it still feels like our work is cut out trying to stop the rot. Our desire to sustain economic growth does place huge pressures on our finite natural resources. But, we have made great strides in managing and protecting our finest wildlife sites. I am not complacent, but I think that the best places (certainly on land - alas we still have work to do to get marine protected areas established) are safer now than they were twenty years ago.
And now, at last, it seems like there is acceptance that we can and should restore lost biodiversity. Yesterday, Defra announced the winners of its Nature Improvement Areas competition.
I gatecrashed a launch at one of the successful locations on the Thames. Farming Minister, Jim Paice MP, visited RSPB Rainham to meet some of the partners of the Thames Nature Improvement Area.
Thames Estuary Partnership led the bid and worked with the RSPB and local authority partners to develop an exciting project to create and enhance grazing marsh, salt marsh and mudflat habitats in the Greater Thames. In fact each of the NIAs are dependent on partnerships from across the NGO, local government and landowner sectors. Communities coming together to do more for people and wildlife at a landscape scale.
Professor John Lawton, in his 2011 report, Making Space for Nature, made the case that we needed to expand our horizons to look at the needs of nature across whole landscapes. The challenge posed by climate change means that we need bigger, buffered protected areas that are better connected. While this is something many conservationists have been saying for a long time, it is fantastic that the Government has shown its commitment to that approach by investing £7.5 million in these 12 pilots.
We would love the pot to have been bigger, but, in these cash-strapped times it is reassuring that ministers want to invest in nature. Nature will pay them back!
As partners in nine of the projects announced today - from the Dark Peak to Morecambe Bay and from the South Downs to the Humberhead Levels - we shall be working to improve the wildlife in a range of iconic landscapes.
I am glad that Ministers have invested money and political capital in bringing these projects to life. We need these 12 NIAs to be successful, learn from our experience and then apply the approach to other landscapes across England. And, maybe just maybe, there is something here for the devolved administrations to learn from Westminster.
What do you think of the Nature Improvement Areas announcement? Which landscapes would you like to restored?
It would be great to hear your views.
Further to my earlier blog today, here is a personal take on the ASBO from one of our brilliant investigators, Mark Thomas.
He boarded the tube carrying a small pizza box, a rather normal looking man in the midst of East London. He was wearing dark, almost military clothing and carrying a small shoulder bag. The train sped through the city, the suburbs and out in to rural estuary Essex. By now he was fidgety but only to trained eyes. As he left the train at Leigh on Sea darkness was falling, he had meticulously planned it to be like that, he needed the darkness, it preserved his obsession. Walking briskly he was at his target in minutes, he entered the wooden bird hide but to his horror he was not alone, two males with binoculars, flasks and a duty. They were undoubtedly 'protectionists', guarding the very jewels he had come to take. Through the open windows there in the gloom only 30 feet away sat an avocet incubating four precious eggs, sadly from that moment these four eggs were only destined to become statistics. He left the hide and hid up like a fugitive.An hour later the voluntary wardens had left, their duties fulfilled. It was black; suddenly the night air was filled with the twin distress calls of Avocets and humanity. A dark human figure lurched in to the mud and water; it was all rather easy despite the injury caused by hidden metal debris. Within minutes the lagoon was quiet, the calm returned but three pairs of avocets had now lost a total of 12 eggs. Back on the tube, eggs nestled in the pizza box, the now wet but triumphant Matthew Gonshaw blended back in with society once more. Safe in his flat, he performed the last rights, blowing the embryos from the shells, documenting his raid and hiding the eggs under a set of drawers.Following intelligence from the National Wildlife Crime Unit, almost two months later, in the very same flat, officers from the MET Police Wildlife Crime Unit and RSPB Investigations found the Avocet eggs amongst 700 other eggs, golden eagles, ospreys, kites to name but only a few. There was no celebration; the flat screamed with the silent calls of ghosts. An eerie place, uncomfortable for most. Gonshaw was jailed for 6 months for these offences in December 2011 but showed no sign of remorse, quite the contrary. This was his fifth conviction, his fourth spell in prison and the deterrents he had faced really didn't outweigh his obsession for taking eggs. Not just any old eggs but those of truly amazing birds. After reading his dairies and interviewing the man, one particular aspect of his obsession stood out streets above the rest, he was driven by his annual visits to remote parts of Scotland, where he could test his survival skills, obtain freedom and plunder the rarest of the rare. This was his nirvana, his place of power and ultimately his Achilles heel.A meeting of minds between the MET Police, CPS and RSPB Investigations resulted in a new approach, fresh thinking and strong purposeful action. The collective outrage of nest protection volunteers, conservation staff and wildlife Police needed to be harnessed in a way to make it impossible for a court not to act. Ten amazing people put pen to paper and Stepped up for Nature.
Late last Friday, Matthew Gonshaw statistically became the first ever person to receive an ASBO for crimes against nature. He was banned from leaving England to visit Scotland between February 1st and August 31st for TEN YEARS. In addition he also had 7 other conditions imposed including being banned from all RSPB and Wildlife Trust land as well as the obvious, not to take or possess wild bird eggs.
If he doesn't stop he can now be brought back to court for breaching the ASBO and that offence carries a maximum of up to 5 years in prison and a £20,000 fine.
Hopefully, no longer will ospreys and golden eagles be robbed by him, no longer will volunteer wardens feel despair when he has taken their eggs and no longer will the authorities be powerless. Let's be hopeful that those 12 avocet eggs have saved thousands of other birds, that's a much more positive statistic for Saving Nature.


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Tuesday, December 02, 2008
BRANDING YOUR YOUTH MINISTRY: A good idea?
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while youth ministry has seemed to drift from connection to the wider church body, i'm going to lay the blame squarely on the shoulders of the "old folks" in the church.
there are so many reasons that teens are "inconvenient" for sunday morning services and wider church events so what happens? they outsource the care of today's students: they hire a youth pastor (of which I'm one).
if i could preach a sermon to my whole church, i'd ream them for being disconnected from students and children. not just on sunday morning, but in everything.
there are so many reasons why this is wrong.
that being said, i think that it is OK for student ministries to work on branding their ministry. it creates a safe feeling for parents (especially those who don't grow up churched).
Your thoughts here are part of the reason why I really prefer familiy ministry to yout ministry. As a youth minister you get 3-5 hours a week with the teens, while they typically watch more hours of TV in single day! Providing resources and ministering to whole families, I believe, is a better approach.
Have I done that perfectly, No! Churches sometimes get stuck in the rut, they do what others churches do and stop thinking critically about things.
I don't know anyone who believes that the early church had youth programs. Services were inter-generational. I think we need to get back to that approach in mnay ways.
- mcdaniel clan said...
i'll tell you, i recently went away from "youth group" for a brand. i don't really know why, except for the fact that i wanted kids to associate a name with our particular meeting. i see the issue of separating from the church, but chose to name them so kids could identify with something that is "theirs" or particular to them at church.
i wonder, are kids from outside the church more likely to come to a "brand name" than to a church name?
what did i name our groups? Junior High "Alien Workshop" and High School "unwind."
- Marv Nelson said...
@ramblingsofpassion I agree that the "old folks" have in a way deserted the youth. However, putting the whole blame on them is quite frankly sinful. I'm in an old church with a lot of old people who have no interest in my teens...so I go to them. We have a responsibility to get our teens in the lives of the older generations...we are their one and only bridge (in most cases). Have you ever asked an older person why they don't get involved? I have and the answer isn't because those teens are such scoundrels eww stay away...it's because they don't feel loved or welcome by us the youth pastor or by the teens.
One way God asked me to bridge this gap is to help the older folks with my leadership team of high school students to go to the nursing home and minister together to the elderly. It will look different in every church, but this is one way.
Also, with the branding issue, for me I see as a non-issue to be honest. I feel it gives a sense of ownership to the teens and if you have a good relationship with the church, it can help church folks take ownership as well. Good thoughts Brian!
- jeremy zach said...
great post!! amen!!
i always crack up when i meet a youth pastor and he/she boldly states: Yes I am the youth pastor for Garage student ministries.
I am like what?
- Luke said...
I don't think having a separate name for your youth ministry sets up any major dilemma. However, that being said, I do think we should seriously consider what we put that name on, or how important it becomes. We can easily become a business without even realizing it, selling to our youth various items with the name branded on it. So you get some sweaters, and some really trendy shirts that sets your group apart from any other. Maybe your image is so well designed people wouldn't even know its for a group about God, but would of course make other youth ask "where did you get that awesome shirt"? Which inevitably leads to a conversation about the youth group you attend and sure enough in a short while your youth group is packed right? Be careful people how much stock we put on an "image" to get people interested in God. I have had those same ideas before and realized they didn't work, and any kids I got out because of a trendy name or logo ended up being christian vegetables after high school. If it is not because of the power of God our youth group grows, then i don't want growth for the sake of growth.
- Brian said...
Excellent ideas all around. I purposely posed the title of this post as a question because, though I knew what I thought about the issue, I realize there are different sides to this. Branding can be useful --many churches as a whole work on developing a brand for themselves (my church has "branded" itself as a church focused on the arts as a way to spread the gospel) and branding a youth ministry can be a positive thing, as long as it doesn't give the impression that the youth ministry stands alone from the church (otherwise, doesn't it just become a parachurch group?).
Here's a bit of a different thought on branding:
With our younger students (7-8), they just want to get to know eachother and are frankly are not mature enough to go too deep with God. I think branding here can be a great way to draw kids in and begin to foster mentoring relationships that deepen in the future.
BUT but the time they get into grade 9 or 10 they are looking for something far different. The ministry has to speak for itself, the brand is no longer as important.
- Sonrise SM said...
This has been an issue that I've been struggling with for the last couple years. We just changed our ministry name from Crossfire Student Ministries to Sonrise SM. I kept feeling that our group was being pulled away from the church in a whole. Not because we wanted to be or that the "old folks" didn't want anything to do with us. I found that we were not trying hard enough to be a part of the church. Things just naturally seemed to drift over time and everyone seemed all right with it.
In the last month we have done several things to bridge the camp between our "two churches." I am excited to see how God has blessed this change.
I am not saying that having exciting names is a bad thing, I've just found that is was a part of us losing our focus on the church as a whole.
- Brian said...
Thanks for sharing. I think you are on the right track here. The branding is not so much the issue as whether or not it is being used to separate the youth ministry from the regular church (and so sending a not-so-subtle message that regular church is boring/irrelevant/uncool) ets. Branding can help add a sense of identity to a youth ministry but I agree that we still must work hard to help youth see their connection to the wider church.
Love your thoughts here! I've been thinking through some similar issues while sharpening the ministry philosophy of my youth ministry so that new youth leaders can get a good idea what they're in for and what to expect. I wrestled a little with whether or not we should even have a different Mission Statement from our church, or whether or not that simply broadens the gulf that so easily comes between the church and their youth ministry. I ended up writing a mission statement that's parallel with the church's, but with different keywords.
I appreciate your encouragement here to remember that our youth ministries aren't entities in themselves.
- Brian said...
eb == I love your idea about writing parallel mission statements for the church and youth ministry. This would be a good way, for those who still want to do some heavy-duty branding, to still demonstrate how the youth program is part of the work of the wider church. THanks for sharing.
I named my Wednesday night youth service, not my youth group. We have a "brand" name for two reasons. First, when you have common ground you tend to unite a little more. I wish every youth I have would just walk up and say I am a lover of Jesus. Doesn't happen that often. But, I can put an environment together that stresses Jesus and his calling on us. We call Wednesday nights the Edge because we believe Jesus hung out with those on the edge of society, that we should live dangerously on the edge sharing our faith, and we believe many that we love are living dangerously close to the edge of hell. Branding can be positive if it is encapsulated in Jesus.
Second reason I branded the get together is in the off chance that it makes it sound a little more attractive to a lost/unchurched student or if it makes it easier for one of the youth to invite. Which sounds better youth or edge? I know you must think that this might be selling out for relevance. I just think that Jesus made everything sound exciting so why shouldn't I do the same. If I can empower a youth to overcome their fear of inviting others by using a name and making a t-shirt, I think it is all right as long as they get the gospel when they get here. My two cents...
- Brian said...
Crane, thanks for sharing. You rightly demonstrate that the branding of a youth ministry can be done for thoughtful theological reasons.
- eric fehrman said...
I really liked most of this post until I got to the end, then I was discouraged...
a. even 50 years into the future the silliness of "protest rallies" still hasn't worn off?
b. why do I want my teens at a "protest rally"? Is this even remotely biblical?
oh well...
I agree with this more than I can even say. After 11 years a student pastor I can say that this disconnect runs both ways when this happens. Not only do our students miss out on the opportunity to be mentored and loved on by a greater body of believers (some of whome have walked with Christ 40 or 50 years), but often our adults become far removed from the student ministry. No wonder students leave the church when they leave youth group. We have painted an unrealistic picture of what the church was intended to be. There must be an intentional effort by both the student minstry and the "church" to rally around one another.
As a student pastor I am passionate about student minstry for sure. I desire to see Jesus captivate the hearts of my students in a way that will carry on for generations to come. I can't do that alone. Not without partnering with parents, not without fostering deep meaningful relationships for students with "older" members.
I could go on forever I guess on this, but I won't. Thank you for the post.
- The Nince said...
I was googling "Reasons Why We Need A Youth Only Service In Church" when I came across this post.
Well, am 24 yrs old and a youth leader in my Church. The reason I was searching for this was because I was feeling that we are losing most of our young people by not having a youths only church service. The service itself can be led by the church elders and pastors but the sermons being preached to be tailor made for the youths and issues affecting the youths.
Where am I coming from? You might ask:
A few weeks ago, we had an evangelist who was about 27yrs old about to be ordained to be a priest but it was cancelled by our bishop for reasons we haven't been told yet. He was one of the youth leaders.
Another incident that happened still not so long ago, one of the ladies who was also a youth leader and a member of the church's worship team decided to leave the worship team and join the teens ministry as one of their leaders. The move was not seen as anything wrong until about 3 months down the line, we hear she stopped coming to church and that she's pregnant.
Am sure all these incidents are issues we have to deal with in any youth group but from where I sit as the overall leader of all this young people, I am faced with the question "What is not going right?".
We have branded our youth group as StAY Alive Fellowship, the StAY being an acronym for our Church's name St. Andrews Youth. So we are the St. Andrews Youth Alive Fellowship.
Our blog www.stayalivefellowship.blogspot.com
In a nutshell, I need your advice on whether you think having a youth service where youths can fellowship together as a unit is better than combining the youths with the adults.
- Brian Kirk said...
Nince, Sounds like you have a real challenge on your hands. Let me say up front that whatever my opinion may be, YOU are the expert when it comes to your ministry. Though I believe in general that we need to do more in our churches to bring youth and adults together, what your teens may need most right now is time together. Once you established some sense of stability and identity, then perhaps will be the right time for you to look for new ways to help the adults welcome the youth into fuller participation within the wider fellowship of your church. Good Luck!
- gray said...
I tried that also a year ago, to add some excitement for the young people. But it never materializes, cause I think it just lost the original concept. What really matters is that they feel a sense of belongingness, and to take care of their spiritual growth.
- Mike Stark said...
I've been thinking quite a bit about this lately - we're thinking through a new youth activity we're planning on launching in the new year.
I don't think we have the problem of being disassociated with the rest of the church. But often young people are surprised that they're in a church in the first place - the building looks more like a community centre, and the types of young people we're working with are used to engaging with community centres. It gives us lots of opportunities to have gospel conversations with young people, which is exciting.
I've tried to summarise my thoughts on this in my blog post:
... which includes a list of some of the best youth group names I've found online.
- Mike Stark said...
I've been thinking quite a bit about this lately - we're thinking through a new youth activity we're planning on launching in the new year.
I don't think we have the problem of being disassociated with the rest of the church. But often young people are surprised that they're in a church in the first place - the building looks more like a community centre, and the types of young people we're working with are used to engaging with community centres. It gives us lots of opportunities to have gospel conversations with young people, which is exciting.
I've tried to summarise my thoughts on this in my blog post:
... which includes a list of some of the best youth group names I've found online.
- MURGE411 said...
I'm curious. What's the difference between branding a youth ministry and branding a church? If we are "the church" shouldn't those that oppose branding a youth ministry be against each church calling themselves a different name too?
- Matthew Codd said...
I preached a sermon this morning talking about how good society is at separating us, a sort of divide and conquer mentality to marketing. I stated that God's kingdom isn't in the business of petty divisions.
I'm torn in regards to this issue, on one hand if branding contributes to further separation and lost identity with the church as a whole, then scrap it.
However if branding helps unify teens around a common purpose. Does indeed make for good tshirt advertisements and makes talking about the Youth easier than the rather bland brand of "Youth Group" than perhaps I'm for it.
I may compromise, brand my Youth ministry but be sure to always note the larger body we are a part of. in our tab on the website we have listed the larger church's core values, not because "we agree with them" but because we are part of the church.
great post, great discussion.
- Brian Kirk said...
Thanks for sharing Matthew and I think you suggest a good balance between too much of a "marketing" approach while also giving the ministry a unique identity.
- The Jensen Scoop said...
Agreed when you look at the church as a whole. When you are hired to babysit than just call it youth group. Thats all it is. But when you are in the community at the schools and impacting the lives of teens they could care less what church you are. They want to know how to identify you. Maybe we should get more churches and youth pastors into the schools and engage more teens outsidebof those coming to church. You know like Jesus. I can't find Jesus kicking it with the temple student ministries.


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It flashes by pretty fast, and I'm not sure how well the details will sink in with the average viewer. But on the whole it's effective. This issue should be a winner for McCain, but so far it apparently hasn't been.
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Calls to Action
SST believes that public awareness and understanding are steps in the right direction and that public education is an even more powerful step but the time has now come for people to take action in the ways they live. To promote this SST has mounted two Sea Pledge tours around South Africa and is currently running a photographic competition and developing a book celebrating our South African seas. The mere fact that a person has to compose a photograph and think about it is a form of action, equally public participation in selecting photographs leads to thoughts, ideas and commitments to more sustainable lifestyles. Many people recognise that humans are responsible for the downward trends on the planet and feel that whatever they do will not make a difference however an important message carried by SST on its tours and lectures and in its films is that of hope, indicating that people are now in a far better position than ever before to make a difference. We have the understanding, knowledge, technology and increasingly public and political movements that will lead to a better planet. These calls to action are quite frequently a charitable drive to raise funds for education and skills training within impoverished coastal communities.


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It seems all too often these days, we are waking up to devastating news involving terror. There are so many terrors in the word every day that we don't even hear about, but whenever it comes close to home, it makes it much more personal.
The more recent attacks in Brussels, Paris, Jakarta, Bangkok and in Turkey have shocked me the most: These are all places I have been or have seen myself going to, and I can't help but feel that it could have been me among the hurt and injured, or any one of my dear friends from all around the world. If you live a life in which traveling frequently brings you the bulk of your happiness, unfortunately this seems to be a risk you face in today's world. Here are a few of my personal views as a student abroad about how we can begin fighting terror in our own way.
A students perspective
It all began for me when I started my student life abroad, diving right into a bachelor's degree in Finland in 2009. I have since then wrapped up a second bachelor's degree in Finland in 2016, with a semester abroad in Indonesia under my belt to add to my study abroad experience.
During my 7 years of studying abroad, most of my free time has gone to traveling around Europe, Asia, Australia and a little bit around back home in North America. Although I continue to hear the news of terror attacks primarily targeted at innocent travellers, carried out by either ISIS or by other radicals who feel obligated to use violence to get their point across, and although my anxiety kicks in every time I get on an airplane, I refuse to submit to terror and stop travelling . You shouldn't let these fears limit you either, and this is why:
How studying and traveling abroad changes us all
I am tired of hearing from articles online that terror is a valid reason not to study or travel abroad. For all of the young people out there who are currently weighing terrorism as a heavy con against studying abroad, I ask you to reconsider. For all the parents who are begging their children not to study or travel abroad, I ask you also to reconsider.
If I have learned anything at all during my time studying and traveling abroad with people from all over the world, it's that these experiences are what shape our youth for the better. These experiences are the ones that will break our borders and destroy the grudges that go back way before this generation was even born.
Studying abroad with other international students from all over the world will teach you or your child an unbreakable love and respect for diversity, and will ultimately teach the world how to coexist over time. This generation has a gift that many generations before lacked: The ability to travel abroad more easily and more affordably than ever before. This gift is not just one that is given to its' receiver, but it is also a gift for those who are touched by the wanderers.
I truly believe that the only way we can fight terrorism is with an emphasis on global education and intercultural understanding with an open mind. We need to let our youth break down the walls we have created, and we need to let them venture out into the world and understand just how small they are, no matter how risky or uncomfortable it may seem.
Let's not limit ourselves in the face of a challenge, but rather, let's continue to come together and embrace our neighbours with a clean slate and an open mind. Let's embrace intercultural interactions as a learning environment rather than an obstacle, and take away as much as we can from those experiences.
The future lies with diversity
In these 7 years, I can say I have seen the future blooming everywhere I have had the honour of visiting. I see the future here in Finland: A start-up team proudly standing under the brand "Made In Finland" with smiling faces from as broad a range as Finland, Brazil, Pakistan, the USA and the Netherlands.
I have seen the future in Dubai: Meeting the passionate people who are educating students from all over the world in their classrooms, some hosting well over 100 nationalities!
I have seen the future everywhere in between when I have met new friends in hostels: That guy who was originally from France, off to a business meeting in Singapore to get funding for their company in Indonesia, or that guy originally from the USA, taking a break from his work in South Korea and exploring Hong Kong.
I have seen the future in Airbnb hosts who open up their own homes to complete strangers and create an environment ripe for cultural sharing. I dedicate the firm majority of my life skills from all those amazing people who embraced me with an open mind, and in return, opened my mind!
Yes, I truly believe that the future lies with diversity, and with those who are brave enough to take on the challenges of studying or living abroad along with the priceless experiences they receive in return.
The future lies with those who embrace all of the cultures they are lucky enough to interact with along the way, and who understand that being different is what makes us all beautiful in our own way.
It may seem like a scary world we are venturing out into, but it's worth it, and it's up to us to change the world one mind at a time in return as we carry out our journey.


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As veterinary professionals, we're faced with pesky parasite problems every day. We've heard a myriad of excuses from numerous parasite enablers, and we've tried our best to thwart them. Sometimes we fail, sometimes we prevail, but the sun always sets and rises on another day of all-too-familiar battles.
Reflecting upon these experiences I began to notice a pattern, which brought me to the discovery that flea- or tick-troubled clients I've dealt with fit into one of six categories. I decided to try to use a specific and consistent approach for each type of client I recognized to yield better results—and it worked.
Evaluating the thought processes of clients, I realized that instead of spewing the entirety of my prevention knowledge to these cynics, I should choose an appropriate response that matched their personality types. Below are some verbal and visual strategies I used to approach each type of client:The Refuter
"My pet doesn't have fleas. I only walk him on the sidewalk."
What to say: Talk about hitchhikers
Whether you're passing by on the sidewalk or walking through your garden, creepy little fleas feel no shame in jumping on you and hitching a ride inside ... where their new, four-legged home awaits.
What to show: Flea dirt
Your clients just told you there was no way their pet could have fleas, because they've never seen one on him. This is especially common with cats, since they are such avid self-groomers. Run a flea comb through their fur and show clients the flea dirt you find. Place it on a wet paper towel so they can watch that little black speck turn red. Once you've explained to them that flea dirt is actually flea poop and that flea poop is actually blood, they'll not only understand, they'll be taking away a new trick they can try at home—and, of course, visual evidence.


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I was just about to send update when your reply came through! Anyway managed to get drawer out yesterday afternoon, magnet was used to get partial/ remains of key out, sadly it only came part of...
[QUOTE=safeman;29933][QUOTE=Marmite47;29928] You could of course try cutting off the head of the bolt with a padsaw but the lock could be awkward to repair subsequently.


text: UPDATED: State budget to begin new fiscal year with $2 million deficit By GARRY RAYNOState House Bureau July 31. 2013 10:23AM CONCORD — State revenues were $48 million more than projections for the 2013 fiscal year ending June 30. But that is $2 million less than needed for the current budget to balance over the next two years. House and Senate budget negotiators believed the revenue surplus would be $2 million more. They counted that money in balancing the 2014-2015 biennial budget they project to have a $44,000 surplus. Without the money, the 2014 fiscal year budget which began July 1 has a $2 million deficit. At the end of a fiscal year state financial officials determine what the state is stilled owed in taxes for that year, but will be paid in the new current fiscal year. The figures are preliminary and will not be finalized until an audit is completed in several months. Making those adjustments increased unrestricted revenues by $5 million, business taxes by $2.5 million, the tobacco tax by $1.7 million, the real estate transfer tax by $1.1 million and all other adjustments by $1.8 million. The adjustments reduced the communications tax by $2.8 million and liquor revenues by $1 million. Business taxes produced $36 million more than projected for the year, which is a 7 percent increase over estimates and a 7 percent increase over last year's returns. However that additional revenue was offset by two tax cuts approved by the last Legislature, a 10–cent reduction in the tobacco tax and prohibiting the state from collecting the communications tax for Internet access. The Internet access prohibition reduced the communications tax revenues by $25.2 million or 30.6 percent from estimates and the tobacco tax cut reduced those revenues by $13.1 million or 6 percent. Because the tobacco tax produced less money than projected in both the 20102 and 2013 fiscal years, the tax will increase 10 cents to $1.78 a pack Aug. 1. Budget writers project the increase will produce about $25 million in additional revenue over then next two years. Medicaid Enhancement Tax revenues were also significantly below projections for the year, down 27 percent or $28.5 million. The levy is on hospitals net patient receipts and has been significantly below budget writers' projections for the past two years due to a dispute over state reimbursements for the hospital's charity care. The insurance tax on premiums, real estate transfer tax, board and care revenues from nursing homes and the utility property tax all produced significantly more revenue than budget writers projected. 2013 revenues included two one-time settlements — tobacco and the gasoline additive MtBE — totalling $30 million. Revenue from traditional taxes was 2 percent above estimates while total revenues, including the settlements and other one-time events, were up 2.7 percent. Revenues are only half the state's financial picture. State financial officials continue to work to adjust state spending as well in order to determine what the state's surplus will be for the 2013 fiscal year. email@example.com Politics General News New Hampshire