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Bill O'Reilly's fight with the ladies of 'The View' (Video)
Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg made it clear on
yesterday's the October 13th showing of "The View": They are not fans of Bill O'Reilly. During his visit to their show, the conversation turned to the Park51 community center. O'Reilly staunchly attacked President Obama for not commenting on the "appropriateness" of the location.
Behar tried to interrupt O'Reilly, and he said, "Hold it, hold it. Listen to me 'cause you'll learn." She called him a "
pigface" "pinhead" in return.
After O'Reilly said, "Muslims didn't kill us on 9/11?" Whoopi Goldberg answered, "No! Extremists! Excuse me? Extremists did that!"
Shortly after, Behar and Goldberg stood up and walked off the set.
Barbara Walters chastised her co-workers, "I love my colleagues, but that should not have happened."
She then told O'Reilly that he "cannot take a whole religion and demean them."
O'Reilly apologized, dropping the word Rick Sanchez made famous: "I was inartful in my explaining."
The women returned after his apology.
How many times has someone stormed off this show? Genius television, ladies.
Updated, 4:15 p.m.
Past the yelling and stomping and showmanship, the argument the women and O'Reilly end on is a question the country seems to have been asking itself for some time. What do you call terrorists? The On Faith blog poised this question to a panel in July after the 2010 National Security Strategy severed the relationship between Islam and terrorism, rejecting the use of terms like 'Islamic terrorist' and 'jihad' to describe acts of terror.
One panelist, Brad Hirschfield, a rabbi, wrote:
Failing to call Islamic terror, Islamic terror, is dangerously naïve, if not willfully so. The same can be said for Jewish terror and Christian terror as well.
David Wolpe said in a post titled, "Tell the truth: There are Islamic terrorists:"
To use the words 'Islamic terrorists' no more indicts all Muslims than to say that there is teenage drug use indicts all teenagers.
Others, such as Arun Gandhi, the grandson of India's Mohandas K. "Mahatma" Gandhi, said it was the right thing to do to unlink terror and Islam
What's in a name? Whether we call them terrorists or renegades or rebels or whatever they still remain, in the minds of most people, a dehumanized entity that needs to be eliminated.
David Gushee wrote:
There is no doubt that the vast majority of people who have sought to inflict mass destruction on the United States and its citizens in the past two decades have claimed to be motivated by their understanding of Islam. If we were to accept the self-definitions and self-descriptions of the plotters and terrorists, they could fairly be described as Islamic (or "Islamist") in their motivations.
But perhaps we should not accept their self-definitions.
What are your thoughts on the argument? Read the full panel here.
Melissa Bell
| October 14, 2010; 12:42 PM ET
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I will agree Bill Oreilly misspoke when he chastized all Muslims as killers. It simply isn't true! He was right to apologize. Joy and Whoopi were right to disagree, but really showed themselves when they got up and walked off the set. That show their inmaturity. "Pseudo Liberal" is a correct diagnosis for Joy and Whoopi. They never have, and probably never will, question their own views and beliefs. From time to time, we all find ourselves questioning a viewpoint we support. We all have to do this to keep from being one sided in everything we do. I questioned my own beliefs on things such as abortion, and realized that I had to challenge the belief I used to have about it being evil. It truly is not. In cases of rape, incest, or mother's health it is a necessary alternative. This proves someone such as myself can look outside of traditional beliefs and see the big picture. Gay marriage is another. I was raised to be opposed to homosexuality, but with age and wisdom come change. I now favor gay marriage for the simple reason of how many children out there in need of adoption will find a home in gay households. I've noticed with several gay friends of mine, just because you're gay doesn't make you a bad parent. In closing, I hope many pseudo liberals and pseudo conservatives will one day be able to stand back, look at their own belief system, and "clean house" where necessary.
Posted by: farmboy1571 | October 14, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse
To O'Reilly's comments regarding the appropriateness of the GZ Mosque, Behar was heard screaming "This is America." She is correct, and the America I grew up in people accepted others with opposing views. Then Whoppi comented the "Extremists" were the guilty ones not Muslims. True, but Saudi Arabia did not supress the "extremists" until they began to threaten the royal family. The Muslim state of Saudi Arabia, the keeper of the Muslim holy shrines, was complicite in the 9/11 crime although not diretly. O'Reilly could have chosen better words, but Behar and Whoppi are typical liberals; if you don't agree with them, you are not worth conversing with. I think both of them are dispicable.
Posted by: saelij | October 14, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse
All Muslims are NOT terrorists... there are hundreds of millions of loving, kind and non-Sharia Muslims BUT...
unfortunatly MOST terrorists are devout Muslims...
unfortunately MOST polygamists are devout Muslims...
unfortunately MOST honor-killings are committed by devout Muslims.
Moderate non-Sharia Muslims need too STOP the extremism in their communities.
Posted by: pvilso24 | October 14, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse
Typical Democrats. Stomp your feet, throw a fit and walk away.
Posted by: tulsa_dave | October 14, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse
The problem with the liberal left is that they have no absolutes in their life. Everything is gray and not black and white. If a Muslim attacked us on 9/11 and they did, then Bill has a right to say "The Muslims attacked us." It wasn't Jews, Catholics or Cowboys, it was Muslims! So don't try to drag another issue into your GRAY world and make others follow your wandering ways. GREAT JOB BILL!
Posted by: republican3 | October 14, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse
Typical Republicans. Bigoted and counter-factual. See? I can do that too.
Posted by: AhhYes | October 14, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse
I wish I had seen that! I absolutlely HATE The View.
Posted by: hebe1 | October 14, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse
If the intentions of the developers where truly honorable and in line with most religious teaching, they would not be pushing to build this in that area. They know many Americans are very sensitive to this since thousands of Americans were brutally killed in the area by terrorists. The fact they would continue to push this plan is clear evidence they have ulterior motives.
Posted by: AngryMobVoter | October 14, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse
If Christian priests systematically raped little boys and they did, then I have a right to say "Christians raped little boys." It wasn't Jews, Hindus or Cowboys, it was Christians!
You guys are dumb. This is about throwing in a whole group of people for the actions of a few. Can you not see that?
Posted by: AhhYes | October 14, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse
liberalism is a mental disorder as always. There are tens if not hundreds of millions of "extremist" muslims that hold a Islamist world view. In WWII we didn't say whoa we are not fighting Germans. We are fighting extremist elements in the Nazi (read socialist) party. We must ensure we do not brand germans as our enemy. libs are scary indeed... I think November 2nd will be as we like to say "a teaching moment" for libs on their over reach
Posted by: restonhoops | October 14, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse
liberalism is a mental disorder as always. There are tens if not hundreds of millions of "extremist" muslims that hold a Islamist world view. In WWII we didn't say whoa we are not fighting Germans. We are fighting extremist elements in the Nazi (read socialist) party. We must ensure we do not brand germans as our enemy. libs are scary indeed... I think November 2nd will be as we like to say "a teaching moment" for libs on their over reach
Posted by: restonhoops | October 14, 2010 2:19 PM
I see. So your "solution" is to openly declare war against all Muslims. I assume you have a executable battle plan for fighting the world's billion-or-so Muslims in every nation on earth.
Please, enlighten me on how that is a remotely victory-oriented solution.
Posted by: AhhYes | October 14, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse
"Genius television, ladies"? What do you mean by that? Showing your bias?
Posted by: LifeBeforePrinciple | October 14, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse
Probably the best thing that could have ever happened on that show: those two crow's walking off the set.
Posted by: ANCLvr | October 14, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse
The problem with the liberal left is that they have no absolutes in their life. Everything is gray and not black and white. If a Muslim attacked us on 9/11 and they did, then Bill has a right to say "The Muslims attacked us." It wasn't Jews, Catholics or Cowboys, it was Muslims! So don't try to drag another issue into your GRAY world and make others follow your wandering ways. GREAT JOB BILL!
The problem with the conservative right is they don't know bigotry when it knocks them in the head. Or maybe they are just OKKK with it.
Posted by: LifeBeforePrinciple | October 14, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse
Drama means more viewers and more bloggers writing about you. Which means more ratings. And since they've been on air for 13 years, it seems that storming off the set seems to be working for the show.
Posted by: MelissaBellPost | October 14, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse
The 9/11 terrorists were all MEN! So in keeping with O'Reilly's POV, New York shouldn't allow any men's clubs in that neighborhood.
Posted by: LifeBeforePrinciple | October 14, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse
To this degree religion is for the birds quite frankly, if you look back at the Catholic Church during the Inquisition they tortured and murdered people in the name of religion and now wahabism is a small sect of islam that wants an all out war that is correct. What Bill doesnt quite understand is that there was a mosque in the Tower 1 that collapsed. So what this should not be a national case it should be a local case a case that deals with those coucilpeople who make those decisions.
Posted by: jmc5 | October 14, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse
He is a lufta wielding pig face.
Posted by: angriestdogintheworld1 | October 14, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse
Drama means more viewers and more bloggers writing about you. Which means more ratings. And since they've been on air for 13 years, it seems that storming off the set seems to be working for the show.
Thank you, Melissa, that makes sense. I mis-read your comment as being cynical.
Posted by: LifeBeforePrinciple | October 14, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse
Interesting points but lets make one thing clear... thank goodness for Elizabeth Hasselback !!, at the very least Liz is a very pleasant distraction when everyone else is jabbering.
Posted by: snapplecat07 | October 14, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse
For a minute I thought I was watching the Jerry Springer show. Barbara Walters should be ashamed of herself for permitting such behavior. I am sick and tired of all the jokes made by men in the office who believe all women behave this way. I am a liberal but I do not behave like an immature teenager who did not get her way. These women are an embarrassment.
Posted by: RafikiRuby | October 14, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse
Sure, you have him outnumbered on YOUR show...
you bully him... you cry cry cry...
won't even listen to words....
so you cry cry cry more... then walk...
You invited him... but You walk....
He was YOUR guest... but You walk....
Pure weakness.
Posted by: docwhocuts | October 14, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse
Just wondering, who attacked us in Oklahoma City? The Christians?
Posted by: wbowers | October 14, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse
Bill O'Reilly didn't misspeak. What he DID do was fail to disguise his opinion of Muslims. In effect, he was apologizing for getting caught.
Posted by: JimZ1 | October 14, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse
Typical of O'Reilly to demean and/or berate women or children.
My final episode with Bill O'Reilly was an interview with a 14 year old son of a flight 93 hero from 9/11.
The child simply offered his opinion that the invasion and occupation of Iraq would be the wrong thing to do. (Without doubt we all know the child was correct today!)
O'Reilly immediately began to throttle the boy into submission using the dead father's memory as a weapon in an attempt to shame the child.
I have not and will not watch another "act" of abuse such as that performed by Bill O'Reilly!
Posted by: motiv8ed | October 14, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse
Typical liberal hypocrites. They can demonize whoever they want then act self-righteous.
No wonder the left is being run out of town on a rail. They have no character.
Posted by: bobmoses | October 14, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse
Timothy McVeigh and his helpers attacked us in April 1995 in Oklahoma City. I guess means Christians attacked us then.
Posted by: ballston54 | October 14, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse
AhhhYes wrote: "If Christian priests systematically raped little boys and they did, then I have a right to say "Christians raped little boys." It wasn't Jews, Hindus or Cowboys, it was Christians!"
Thank you, AhhhYes. That was the most sensible statement on this forum today. Let me add that no Catholic churches should be built within a half mile of an elementary school until the church can prove that pedophile priests are a thing of the past.
Posted by: HookedOnThePost | October 14, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse
Talk about inaccurate reporting! Joy Behar did not call him a "pig head" but a "pinhead" in reference to his new book. Does anybody proofread in the news business anymore?
Posted by: disneybear | October 14, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse
I see a lot of people acting holier than thou about a lot of terrorists are muslims etc.
One can carry this guilt by association a bit too far - for example just because Adolf Hitler was a Christian doesn't cast aspersions on a person being a Chrisitan etc.
Posted by: Rohit_33410 | October 14, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse
when billo and the view are canceled the airwaves will be safe to smell again.
Posted by: xxxxxx1 | October 14, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse
"The 9/11 terrorists were all MEN! So in keeping with O'Reilly's POV, New York shouldn't allow any men's clubs in that neighborhood."
Posted by: LifeBeforePrinciple
Posted by: brian_away | October 14, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse
Who invited whom?
Who's show is it?
Who was the guest?
Who was attacked?
Who cried like a baby?
Who walked?
If you cannot stand the man, don't have him on the show.
Posted by: docwhocuts | October 14, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse
The difference between O Reilly and the NBC propoganda programs is you can expect the truth from O Reilly and prompt corrections to the slightest errors they inadvertentatly included in their news.
Posted by: rvaw120 | October 14, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse
I wonder if the terrorist were Catholic or Jewish extremists, would whoopi and joy be so dogged in making the distinction and walked out if they were identified only as Jews or Catholics...
We all know the answer and its why their brand of "liberalism" is an abomination.
Posted by: m052699 | October 14, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse
How much of a moron do you have to be to walk off of your own show?
Posted by: Hawaiian_Gecko | October 14, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse
I think she called him "pighead", meaning he's stubborn.. not "pigface", which would be much more demeaning.
Posted by: calvino | October 14, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse
Why is he wrong to say the muslims attack us? Because he was putting all muslims into that same box. That is wrong. Just as wrong as it to say teabaggers are racists. republicans are racists. republicans are rich white people. etc. etc. If you want to whine about sterotyping, it defeats your argument to sterotype right back.
Posted by: hoyalawya96 | October 14, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse
It amazes me how the Left wing tries to rewrite history. Muslims did attack America on 911, and a Muslim did murder several soldiers at Fort Hood, and there have been numerous other attempts by Muslim terrorists to attack us from the shoe bomber, the underwear bomber over Detroit, and the failed truck bomber in New York, and more the government has intercepted and prevented from happening.
I am so tired about hearing the left constantly bring up Timothy McVeigh. How does one American terrorist stack up against the multiple attacks against America? Since our 911 Muslim terrorists have murdered thousands of men, women, and children in Israel, Egypt, Iraq, Tunesia, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Jordan, Somalia, Spain, Turkey, Bali, England, India, and have reportedly now set their sites on France. Funny, but I don't see any Christians and Jews bombing trains, busses, marketplaces, mosques, restaurants etc. all around the world nor do I hear about Christians and Jews chopping peoples heads off. Oh yes, the Left have an answer to this as well. They will now bring up the Crusades and things that happened centuries ago. Sorry, but that just doesn't cut it.
Posted by: mjkoch* | October 14, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse
"Why is he wrong to say the muslims attack us? Because he was putting all muslims into that same box. That is wrong.
Posted by: hoyalawya96"
Why are you and others arguing a point he already ceded and has made himself hundreds of times?
Any REASONABLE person understood what he meant. Yeah, he didnt say it "right" but any halfway intelligent person KNEW that he meant muslim-extremists and not ALL muslims. Intentionally interpreting it the way you, and they, did, is just as ignorant as if he did mean all muslims.
Posted by: m052699 | October 14, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse
Wasn't point of the mosque/cultural center/gym/swimming pool/ peace center to bring people together? Don't think it's working.
Posted by: ZHRR | October 14, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse
Timothy McVeigh and his helpers attacked us in April 1995 in Oklahoma City. I guess means Christians attacked us then.
Posted by: ballston54 | October 14, 2010 3:03 PM
The Guardian reported that McVeigh wrote a letter to them claiming to be an agnostic and that he did not believe in a hell. McVeigh once said that he believed the universe was guided by natural law, energized by some universal higher power that showed each person right from wrong if they paid attention to what was going on inside them. He had also said, "Science is my religion."
Posted by: kitzdakat | October 14, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse
Whoopi Goldberg does not know the facts. She should read a little more before spouting opinions that are plain wrong.
Posted by: shovandas | October 14, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse
Behar and Whoopy gave the classic liberal response: If you don't have a good arguement, shout, berate or leave.
Posted by: sportsfan2 | October 14, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse
most women killers are muslims...
most gay killers are muslims...
lets not forget that...
Posted by: DwightCollins | October 14, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse
I will never understand why anyone who holds an opposing viewpoint would appear on this show; besides money that is.
Whoopi is the poster girl for intolerance and rude behavior and she isn't even very smart.
Quite frankly the only time I would watch the view is after Whoopi stormed off stage during one of her tantrums.
Posted by: krankyman | October 14, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse
Some set of hosts.... shrieking liberal know it alls.
o'reilly was a GUEST on YOUR show, and the hosts walk out.
The president of columbia university didn't walk out on ahma-dina-jadamadman when he was invited to speak.
What a set of role models.
I hope walters is ashamed and takes some type of action.
Posted by: docwhocuts | October 14, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse
Whoopi was the one who said that forcible sex on child after drugging wasn't "rape-rape".
She is TRULY psychotic and idiotic.
Posted by: illogicbuster | October 14, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse
I don't know why the infidels would not hold responsible the 99% moderate muslims for eliminating and hunting down by their own hands and in their own backyards the 1 % islamic fanatic barbarians .How hard could it be. The Americans sacrificed their own US troops to defend the muslims in Kuwait,Africa,Kosovo and Bosnia.Are the moderate muslims cowards or just condemn loudly but cheer silently the massacres of infidels daily.Because the 99 % moderate muslims allow (WHEN THEY COULD HAVE PREVENTED IT) their 1 % islamic fanatic brothers to massacre infidels daily, the "ONLY GOOD MUSLIMS are DEAD MUSLIMS". It is time to nuke and make the islamic nations radioactive for thousands of years to make them extinct. All muslims have no right to exist on Earth since these beheadings,massacres,suicide car and human bombings have been going ON for more than a thousand years even before George Bush, the IRAQ WAR and GITMO.THE GREEDY,LUSTFUL GAYS,THE DECADENT AND STUPID ,IGNORANT MOVIE STARS ,HOLLYWOOD AND WASHINGTON ELITES ALSO DESERVE TO BE EXTINCT TO RESTORE THE RESPECTABLE,HONEST,LOYAL,PATRIOTIC,UNCORRUPTED,COMPASSIONATE,MORAL VALUES WITHOUT RELIGION,STRONG,BRAVE,DUTY,COUNTRY,ONLY WORLD SUPERPOWER AMERICA WE KNEW.
Posted by: mahalapril | October 14, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse
Ladies? These two female thugs are not ladies. They are liberal clowns masquerading as something else.
Stupid liberal uglies. Nothing more.
Posted by: LarryG62 | October 14, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse
O'Reilly is a self-promoter and somewhat of a pu$$y. That being said, Behar and Whoopi are classic Libt@rds who when they encounter someone or something they disagree with become hysterical and irrational. This was all about ratings and the only reason they have O'Reilly on their show is so that the collection of retreads can stay on TV.
Posted by: freepost | October 14, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse
To this degree religion is for the birds quite frankly, if you look back at the Catholic Church during the Inquisition they tortured and murdered people in the name of religion and now wahabism is a small sect of islam that wants an all out war that is correct. ...
Posted by: jmc5 "
jmc5, historically incorrect. Instead of just parroting inaccurate talking points read the history. The Catholic Church never actually killed anyone during the Inquisition. Before you and others get all in a huff, the Inquisitors were PRESENT during the inquisitions and some did direct some of the torture. HOWEVER, the actual executions were conducted by King's officials. The Church excommunicated people by the inquisition, a condition which the Kings/Nobles used as justification to execute them. Joan of Arc was subject to an inquisition and excommunicated by a priest, but it was the King who burned her. While you can argue culpability, no church official ever actually murdered anyone during the inquisition. Check for yourself.
Additionally, what you and MANY here seem to be doing is relating two VERY DIFFERENT points. Hitler, Catholic Priests who molested, etc committed their crimes IN SPITE of their supposed religious beliefs, not BECAUSE OF. It is IN NO WAY THE SAME as a Muslim extremist who killed BECAUSE OF his beliefs. Stalin was an atheist, he killed tens of millions, he didnt do it because he was an atheist, he did it because he was a sicko. Had Hitler or Stalin came forward and said we are doing this because its in the Bible, it would be the same.
As far as the Crusades, first, it was a DIFFERENT era and trying to relate events a thousand years apart is ridiculous. Second, the Crusades happened after almost 400 YEARS of Muslim attacks, aggresion, and CONQUEST of/against Christian lands (Spain, France, Italy, Greece-Byzantine Empire, Armenia, Egypt, Isreal, Syria, Lybia, Morocco, Turkey, and so on) ALL those lands were Christian before being conquered or still were and recovering from Muslim attacks at the time.
Posted by: m052699 | October 14, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse
dear freepost:
excellent point... damn I feel stupid for actually caring about what was said or done.
Obvious, bi-partisan hack job self promotion.
I am disappointed in myself for falling for the trap.
Posted by: docwhocuts | October 14, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse
After O'Reilly said, "Muslims didn't kill us on 9/11?" Whoopi Goldberg corrected him with, "Extremists! Extremists!"
Wrong Whoopi. Bin Laden had a 50% approval rating among Muslims following 9/11.
Are 50% of Muslims extremists?
Posted by: johnnyboston | October 14, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse
Biilo-the-clown should have been asked to IMMEDIATELY LEAVE the premises. He is a BIGOT and has NO PLACE sharing or pushing his vile commentary to 'the public' other than the trolls that are under the influence of Cluster-Fox...
Posted by: rbaldwin2 | October 14, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse
Not all muslims are terrorists. Some are enablers and apologists for the terrorists.
Posted by: borntoraisehogs | October 14, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse
dear johnnyboston:
in some surveys... as many as 20% of american muslims will agree that it is ok to kill an infidel because in the eyes of allah, they're already dead.
Posted by: docwhocuts | October 14, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse
Why are these women not wearing veils. The punishment is 99 lashes. President of Iran said that France's First Lady is a prostitute because she does not wear a veil. He could have said the same about Michelle Obama and the ladies of The View. Islam has its good points.
Posted by: wcushman | October 14, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse
"Biilo-the-clown should have been asked to IMMEDIATELY LEAVE the premises. He is a BIGOT and has NO PLACE sharing or pushing his vile commentary to 'the public' other than the trolls that are under the influence of Cluster-Fox...
Posted by: rbaldwin2"
Bigot - Noun - a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion
Exactly WHAT do you think YOU are when you make such posts????
Posted by: m052699 | October 14, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse
"Why are you and others arguing a point he already ceded and has made himself hundreds of times?"
Posted by: m052699
I am agreeing with Bill O'reilly. Try reading the rest of my post. I was trying to make another point that you apparently missed. These two piogs walked off the stage because he said "muslims attacked us" which is true. But they don;t have a problem with putting all conservatives, or all republicans, or all teabag party members is the same box by calling them all racists because of someone a few may have done over the years. Whoopi and No-Joy constantly bad mouth republicans and conservatives but seem less concerned.
What they forget is O'Reilly's being on the View brings more ratings to the crap and drivel of that show. He is actually helping them stay on the air, and I wish he would stop.
Posted by: hoyalawya96 | October 14, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse
As an American I am actually saddened that this is "news-worthy." But I guess to some (too many perhaps) that anyone present at this is debacle is an authority on any policy. Actors and an over-opinionated news anchor.
Posted by: JimB20009 | October 14, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse
dear m052699:
why did they HOST him on THEIR show?
did they not walk because of THEIR intolerance.
Seem you are intolerant of views that you find intolerable.
you're a bigot too.... we all are.
Posted by: docwhocuts | October 14, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse
O'Reilly lives in wingnut reality where all Muslims are killers, the Grand Canyon was carved by Noah's Flood, Science is an international conspiracy and Obama was born in Kenya. It's probably hard for the guy to transition to the real world in just the span of a normal TV show.
Posted by: Deirdre_K | October 14, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse
Does anyone watch that show?
Posted by: shewholives | October 14, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse
After listening to the clip again, I agree with "disneybear".. she was calling him a "pinhead" in reference to his book. Definitely not "pig face".
Posted by: calvino | October 14, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse
O'Reilly lives in wingnut reality where all Muslims are killers, the Grand Canyon was carved by Noah's Flood, Science is an international conspiracy and Obama was born in Kenya. It's probably hard for the guy to transition to the real world in just the span of a normal TV show.
Posted by: Deirdre_K | October 14, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse
"Just wondering, who attacked us in Oklahoma City? The Christians?"
Incorrect both denounced religion prior to them committing the act
Posted by: JDB1 | October 14, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse
sample movie script
Posted by: JAH3 | October 14, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse
O'riley is a wingnut We should change the channel when he comes on. What a sorry excuse for a 'man'.
Posted by: 10bestfan | October 14, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse
"dear m052699:
why did they HOST him on THEIR show?
did they not walk because of THEIR intolerance.
Seem you are intolerant of views that you find intolerable.
you're a bigot too.... we all are.
Posted by: docwhocuts"
Uh, what? No, not everyone is a bigot. I HOPE, though am probably wrong, that the middle 80% of this country are rational human beings who can be tolerant of opposing opinions.
But, I will humor you, go ahead cite where I was being "intolerant". When I corrected someone on their misinformation of history about the inquisition? When I cited someones hypocrisy for calling B.Oreilly a bigot and in the same sentence said he should not be allowed to speak? When I pointed out that a the motivation for the 9/11 terrorists WAS their religion and totally different from Hitler, molesting Catholic Priests, and others who were acting in SPITE of their beliefs?
By the way, Im a conservative. I just dont have so bigoted a view that I wont or cant listen to other opinions or feel that the party line conservative answer is ALWAYS the right answer.
Posted by: m052699 | October 14, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse
While not all Muslims are extremist, all extremist muslims kill in the name of muslim. While Timothy McVeigh may have been a nominal christian, he didn't kill in the name of christianity. Many arguments above lack logic
Posted by: veterannz | October 14, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse
I've met FBI agents who are working on counter terrorism and they wondered why do that when President Obama eliminated extremists from all IC reports????? Politics and policies are two different things, not intertwined....
Posted by: Rockvillers | October 14, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse
Bill O'Oreilly was at his typical fashion today trying to bully women into believing his point of view. Instead of walking off the show, Whoopie and Joy should have smacked his face. Women everywhere need to let this pinhead know that they are not his plaything and will not be bullied by him. What a piece of garbage. Fox News will probally give him a raise.
Posted by: sumo1 | October 14, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse
Just like liberals to act like children and storm off unless you agree with them. I side with O'Reilly on this one. Of course we know all Muslims are not terrorists, but of late; all terroists are Muslims. Their ideology is to kill the infidel and take over werever they can and institute Sharia law.
Liberals are passionate about anything and everything that is not an American value.
Posted by: MoodyRed | October 14, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse
"Bill O'Oreilly was at his typical fashion today trying to bully women into believing his point of view. Instead of walking off the show, Whoopie and Joy should have smacked his face. Women everywhere need to let this pinhead know that they are not his plaything and will not be bullied by him. What a piece of garbage. Fox News will probally give him a raise.
Posted by: sumo1"
So your recommended response to someone who doesnt believe you and is trying to state their opinion. Which, thats what it is, an opinion, is to resort to physical violence?
Thats the advice you give to women, is to resort to physical violence whenever you discuss something with someone you disagree with?
What exactly do you think the result of that would be?
What do you believe that will "show him" or anyone else?
Posted by: m052699 | October 14, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse
I don't believe Bill O'Reilly 'meant' all Muslims are terrorists. No, not all Muslims are terrorists... but how many terrorists are Muslim? Aside from what happened on 'The View' today. It boils down to insensitivity as well as offensiveness on the 'Muslims' part in chosing a site so close to such tragedy that is associated with the murder of innocent people being that the murders were committed by 'Muslims'. It is quite unfortunate that I find myself not being able to separate the two at this point. This country is going to be undone by our 'free speech.' I'm all for it, but it's being abused.
Posted by: flybaby_pink1 | October 14, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse
Posted by: JWTX | October 14, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse
Mohammed looks like a pig.
Posted by: stinkingtuna | October 14, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse
O'Reilly is an arrogant buffoon!
Posted by: angie12106 | October 14, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse
"The problem with the liberal left is that they have no absolutes in their life. Everything is gray and not black and white."
That's called a "virtue" or an "asset", not a "problem". Life is not black & white, there're very few (if any) absolutes.
The problem with righties is that they read a 2 paragraph, or listen to 5 minutes of Hannity on a given subject, then suddenly feel they know way more about a topic than someone who's studied the issue for 10 years.
Posted by: tjconnor | October 14, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse
Does anyone bother with the facts anymore? The "Ground Zero Mosque" is not a mosque (it's a community center) and it's not at Ground Zero, it's several blocks away. Also, the group already owns the property and is just expanding.
Really, this is of zero consequence -- except for TV/cable news outlets who like to whip dimwitted Americans into a froth so they can get ratings. Learn the facts before you froth, people.
Oh, and while you're at it? Take a look at the Constitution, all you would-be patriots. It has something to say about whether the government can deny one religion a preferred building spot while allowing another.
Posted by: trace1 | October 14, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse
Just proof to me that O'Reilly, Obermann, Maddow, and Limbaugh are not journalists they are or really want to be celebrity entertainers. The View is not the place to go to have a serious discussion on world events. Just stupid
Posted by: staterighter | October 14, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse
"That's called a "virtue" or an "asset", not a "problem". Life is not black & white, there're very few (if any) absolutes.
The problem with righties is that they read a 2 paragraph, or listen to 5 minutes of Hannity on a given subject, then suddenly feel they know way more about a topic than someone who's studied the issue for 10 years.
Posted by: tjconnor"
I recommend two things.. First you consider the problems of moral relativism. There ARE absolutes, black and whites. Murder is wrong, always. Rape is wrong, always. So on and so on. There ARE absolutes that EVERYONE can agree on. The debate is generally how far past those universal absolutes the line of absolute extends.
Second, I'd shy away from how long someone studied an issue to make a case for it qualifying their opinion. Ive met people who have 'studied' topics for decades and are just as ignorant of its salient points as someone who has never read anything about it, conversely I have met people who can get to those salient points in minutes. Thats not to say that everyone is one or the other, but its simply hollow to make the case that how long you study social issues automatically translates to a deeper understanding of them.
Posted by: m052699 | October 14, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse
One need not be biased when it comes to Bill O'Reilly - he has the most biased, hateful, untruthful, disastrous 'mouth' on TV. I have tried several times to watch an interview he conducts, but each time I am more an more convinced he has diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain. Good for Whoopi and Joy - refusing to any longer share the stage with this no nothing! Betty Sher
Posted by: rbsher | October 14, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse
"Just proof to me that O'Reilly, Obermann, Maddow, and Limbaugh are not journalists they are or really want to be celebrity entertainers. The View is not the place to go to have a serious discussion on world events. Just stupid
Posted by: staterighter"
Dont forget your President, Obama... He went there too, AS PRESIDENT...
Posted by: m052699 | October 14, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse
"There is no doubt that the vast majority of people who have sought to inflict mass destruction on the United States and its citizens in the past two decades have claimed to be motivated by their understanding of Islam."
In point of fact, the vasy majority of people who have sought to inflict mass destruction on the United States and its citizens have claimed to be motivated by their understanding of Christianity! And people like O'Reilly and his Fox cronies have been at the for front of the Christian mobs attempting to destroy the very fabric of the nation! The so-called Christians of the Religious Right and their Republican fellow travelers have murdered more Americans than any Muslim Terrorists and their bigotry and inhumanity will murder millions more!
Posted by: CHAOTICIAN101 | October 14, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse
OK, everybody take a deep breath. Bill O'Reilly and people like him are misinformed. They are not building a mosque near ground zero. They are building a community center. There is already a mosque near ground zero. All of you are arguing because of a reactionary blogger who has misrepresented the truth. You may be well meaning but you have been mislead by O'Reilly and company.
Posted by: GrandstandAnalyst | October 14, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse
please..take 2 min
Posted by: adrunkinthemidnightchoir | October 14, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse
This is nothing more than good theater, deceiving people into thinking it's significant, and by that worth watching. It's isn't.
How many times do we have to listen to this same old discussion, a discussion in which nothing is settled and no one seems to bring up the fact that it is not even a frigging mosque.
Posted by: nowickedwitch | October 14, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse
"With malice toward none, with charity toward all..." In my long life of 83 years I find that to err on the side of charity and courtesy, taking someone's words in their best possible light, and giving the other the benefit of the doubt,
it has made me if not more correct, at least more comforatble. I'm willing on the side of the 1st amendement not to object to the Islamic Center near ground zero. However, since there are many kinds of terriorists in our crazy, mixed up world, I don't see how it is an unfair to identify the 9/11 terrorists as Islamist terrorists. They cerainly weren't memebers on the IRA. Prudence is a moral and intellectual virtue. As short as life is, and with the riches of music, art, literature, nature and beauty which are available to us, why do any on us watch "The View" or read blogs like this.
Posted by: eraskauskas | October 14, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse
Tell me Joy and Whoopi didn't know O'Reilly was talking about Muslim extremist. Who in the world doesn't know that. Joy and Whoopi just didn't want to hear the word Muslim period. If the shoe was on the other foot and it has been Christians I'm sure Joy and Whoopi wouldn't have have a problem with just the word Christian. These two acted like spoil children who couldn't get their way so they did what children do. They threw a tantrum and marched off the stage. The show was better until they returned.
Posted by: houstonian | October 14, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse
Bin Laden had a 50% approval rating among Muslims following 9/11.
Are 50% of Muslims extremists?
Posted by: johnnyboston | October 14, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse
Based on Bill O'Reilly's logic then we should stop the building of Catholic churches near sensitive sites after Timothy McVeigh blew up the Murrah Building in OK City. This would not be against all Catholics, just the radical ones.
This should all prove the silliness of religion. If the plight of Muslims in Kosovo, the Catholics in Ireland, the Jews in Germany and throughout history, and the crusades have not convinced that no religion is perfect and that all religions kill for its own purposes, then your head is in the sand. It is time you wake up, get your head out of that fairy tale book you call the bible, and read history because the controversy over this COMMUNITY CENTER (it is not a mosque) is repeating the history of Eastern Europe in the 19th and mid 20th century!
Really folks... get over it. You get your panties in a wad over a community center where what you call "Ground Zero" is still pretty much a hole in the ground! It is more of a tragedy and an insult that nothing is built on the site of the World Trade Center because of political bickering than a community center. And in that regard, the terrorists won.
Now leave the community center alone and get busy rebuilding the WTC site!
Posted by: Scott76 | October 14, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse
He. Used. Words. To. Hurt. Me. Waaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!! Who gives a crap what Whoopi or that other cow, I have no clue who she is, cares?
Posted by: sorry2say | October 14, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse
Based on Bill O'Reilly's logic then we should stop the building of Catholic churches near sensitive sites after Timothy McVeigh blew up the Murrah Building in OK City. This would not be against all Catholics, just the radical ones.
Posted by: Scott76
Wrong Scott76.
Timothy McVeigh was an Atheist and did not bomb the Murrah Building to promote Christianity. It was because of what happened when Clinton cracked down on the nut-jobs in Waco. Timothy McVeigh killed all those people because he believed in freedom of religion just like yourself - all religions, no matter how corrupt or dangerous.
You, McVeigh, and the GZM Imam make a great team.
Posted by: johnnyboston | October 14, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse
What are those two (b)witches, 8 years old? Typical liberal P.O.S. totally closed minded to someone elses opinion besides their own. Muslims DID kill us on 9/11. The terrorists were muslims, and flew those planes into the WTC and The Pent. in the name of allah. FFFF political correctness.
Posted by: DCFanatic | October 14, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse
Barbara Walters was correct.
These woman can't hold up their end of a conversation with somebody who holds an opposing opinion so they storm off the set of a "talk" show?
Perhaps they should try attending a few cocktail parties where some of the guests don't hold their exact carbon copy opinions and maybe practice a little.
Posted by: menopausequeen | October 14, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse
"Genius television", Ms Bell?
If those two cows were geniuses, they'd have Bill O'Reilly's ratings.
Apparently the "viewing" public took the same walk on Behar and Goldberg.
Posted by: EnoughISEnough | October 14, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse
Typical elitist liberals. Bigots and racists.
Posted by: LarryinMD | October 14, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse
When they threw their hissies acting like 4 year olds, when they stormed off, did they hysterically grab the Haagen Dazs?
Posted by: scoran | October 14, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse
"They are not building a mosque near ground zero. They are building a community center. There is already a mosque near ground zero. All of you are arguing because of a reactionary blogger who has misrepresented the truth."
I was in NYC a few weeks ago and stopped by the area. The entire block is barricaded off at both ends (W. Broadway & Church), with 6-10 cops at each end. There's a portable command post tower (similar to a prison guard tower, tho not nearly as tall) on the Church St side. There's an active business on that block, a restaurant called the Dakota Roadhouse. Signs at both ends tell you that if your are on the reservation list, hail a cop to escort you to the Roadhouse. Unbelievable, all this for a non-issue.
Posted by: tjconnor | October 14, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse
Ahhyes wrote: If Christian priests systematically raped little boys and they did, then I have a right to say "Christians raped little boys." It wasn't Jews, Hindus or Cowboys, it was Christians!
This is not the point. O'Reilly said he misspoke. I know of no, no, no credible person who has stated or believes that all muslims are terrorists. So why argue a point that is not valid!!! The point is extremist muslims caused the act at ground zero and there should not be a mosgue there. Every night, for those watching the show, we see O'Reilly condemning extremist and showing support for muslims. He does ask why isn't there more outrage by muslims against extremist. The false argument of the right to build a mosque is also not the point. No one questions the right, only the judgment involved in making that decision.
Posted by: 1bmffwb | October 14, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse
I am wondering what is up with Barbara Walters. I've come to the conclusion, no doubts here, that she is trying very hard to push the Republican agenda. I base this on her choice of guests in some instances, and also on the questions asked that lead to continued recitation of these views, as seen in her interview with Barbara Boxer. For her to chastise her colleagues, as if they are not aware of the importance of varying views, was quite unsettling. She then jokingly advised Mr. O'Reilly to apologize. We all know that she is "the boss", but she treated Whoopi and Joy like naughty children, and Bill O'Reilly like an honored guest who should be allowed to express his opinions as fact. He bullied the 2 co-hosts and so did she. Not a very neutral journalistic approach. She is certainly entitled to be a Republican, but her timing for some of these questionable partisan interviews is obvious. Perhaps the time has come for her to present herself as a celebrity host and give up her previous title as a serious journalist.
The argument has been gone back and forth so much that it is obvious it will not be resolved by any one person's opinion. Personally I think the most important thing is to recognize that the terrorists do not represent the goals of all Muslims, and to continue to ignore that fact is to ignore truth for some other reason. There is a lot of racial and ethnic hatred coming to the surface in our country and it is not surprising that many turn to unfounded group defamation. There are so many folks who have recognized their prejudices in the last two years, since Pres. Obama assumed office, that this backlash against people of different colors and cultures has become a serious setback for us. It seems to have started as the McCain/Palin campaign felt desperate to win at any cost. They allowed and even encouraged extreme reactions to Mr. Obama from their supporters. From there it has grown and we need to consider the dangerous road on which we are traveling in a globally connected world. We are citizens of a great country, but when it comes to racial and ethnic tolerance and understanding, we are far, far behind other nations who are significantly more learned when it comes to cultural differences and history.
Posted by: jajohnson19 | October 14, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse
Using that dimwad OReilly's logic:
Catholic priests abused and raped children, ergo all Catholics are child rapists. Simple analogy!
Posted by: B-rod | October 14, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse
Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg = two extreme intolerant left-wingers.........
Like most of eltie rich left-wing out-of-touch Hollywood...
Goldberg better be careful or Michele Obama will put her on a "fat-girl" diet.....
Who in the hell really cares about the left-wing View..........SNL........Jon Stewart..........Bill Maher........ALL propaganda outlets for the extreme Democrat Party........
Posted by: allenridge | October 14, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse
Why shouldn't Muslims be lumped in with the extremists? That's what Behar does all the time to Christians. To her, all Christians are bigot and racists, when anybody who has ever bothered to read the Bible would know that the Bible teaches against that so any behavior opposite of that is NOT Christian behavior. She thinks all Christians are hypocrites. But I'll bet she just loved Bill Clinton as he proclaimed he did not have sex with that woman. She is quick to call anyone who does not agree with the homosexual lifestye homophobic, when actually, you can disagree with a behavior without being afraid of it (which is what the word homophobic means). She thinks all Christians are liars but Obama claims to be Christian - does she think he lies?
Posted by: Georgetowner1 | October 14, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse
The View's -and Joy's- best interview was Homer Simpson's.
Posted by: phvr38 | October 14, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse
Ratings rating ratings,...that is why they walked out, two dumbo, bimbos without any regard for anyone elses opinion. They know nothing about politics except Obama. Ask them any political question, whoopi or joy and they will instantly give you the deer caught in headlights look. They have gotta be the most ignorant women on tv.
Posted by: Fred23 | October 14, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse
I watched the program this am and was astounded at how Barbara Walters from the get go allowed this guy to get in his soap box and basically take control of the program with his well known bullying,yelling and condescending style!These ladies looked intimidated and were disgusted until they couldn't take it anymore! I thought Barbara was weak at the beginning and could have been a better moderator of this inflammatory issue.Instead she chose to chastise her colleagues!She took charge later when the damage was done.O'Reilly went there to sell a book and behaved according to his nasty,biased persona and I'm being kind!He is a "pinhead" and please don't buy his book!He is a demagogue and behaves like one!
Posted by: txq1Bird | October 14, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse
Bill O'Dummy will never be accused of being intelligent. He is just a stuid pompous asset.
When Murdoch (the right-wing boss) gives 1 million dollars to the Republicans and 1 additional million dollars to the US Chamber of Commerce to promote outsourcing, then Murdoch is making waterboys of the three stooges of FALSE News.
Posted by: analyst72 | October 14, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse
Using that dimwad OReilly's logic:
Catholic priests abused and raped children, ergo all Catholics are child rapists. Simple analogy!
Bin Laden had a 50% approval rating among Muslims following 9/11.
Did the child rapists have a 50% approval rating among Catholics?
Posted by: johnnyboston | October 14, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse
would attacking a country for something not proven to be true, for a paranoid suspicion perhaps, or due to accepting someones self interested view as true and destroying homes with families infrastructure and then secret assassination squads that target entire families as a terror tactic be considered a deliberate action by everyone in the US?
Posted by: Wildthing1 | October 14, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse
What could Oreilly possibly have expected from these pig ignorant gutter trollops?
An intelligent debate?
Come on.
Posted by: VirginiaConservative | October 14, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse
Why are you writing about this garbage?
Posted by: TheChileanPresidentIsMuchBetterRespondingToDisastersThanObama | October 14, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse
I see. So your "solution" is to openly declare war against all Muslims. I assume you have a executable battle plan for fighting the world's billion-or-so Muslims in every nation on earth.
Please, enlighten me on how that is a remotely victory-oriented solution.
Posted by: AhhYes
1. If we face 200 million Islamists out of a population of 1.4 billion, they are not unbeatable. That is about the number of Axis population we fought in WWII and they were vastly superior in technology, fighting skill to Islamoids. If things got really serious - nukes falling in the hands of Islamists hitting India, the US, Europe - the fight would be even easier, though bloodier than WWII.
2. If you have a serious conventional war, with the Islamoids, and the radical Muslims won't fight by
Geneva rules, you consider the treaty breached - and wage total war. That means you can strangle the nations they hold sway in of raw materials, food (most Muslim nations are overpopulated and not self-sustaining in agriculture). You devestate their infrastructure - no electricity if you bomb evert dam and power plant - no viability of irrigation, water supplies, electricity to make weapons or run a modern country. Wipe out key transport and telecomms. Wipe out air travel and ability to travel by that or any other means as "refugees" or jihadis to other lands.
This is not boots on the ground stuff. You put them back in the stone age, until all 200 million or even 1.4 billion say "enough".
Muslims were fortunate to avoid most of the great democides of the 20th Century, when they weren't inflicting democides on Greeks, Armenians, Chaldeans...Their view of war is it is noble, even religiously uplifting and a path to Paradise. They missed the meat grinders of WWI, Communism, WWII. They have no idea of how bad it could get for them in total war - with Muslims in Europe, Africa, Asia, and N. America loyalty tested and those believed dangerous put in camps.
3. You also limit the ability of any Muslims to travel let alone immigrate to non-Muslim countries if you believe a war is coming.
4. If need be, you could do what Europeans did to suppress Nazism after WWII and what America did to ban Shintoism - ban the ideology, the papers and books of, wearing the clothing accoutrements of, shut down any meetings or broadcasts, bring in buldozers and level their shrines.
Posted by: ChrisFord1 | October 14, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse
So, after 9/11, who in the mideast were the people in the street celebrating the attack on America? Were they ONLY "extremists"? I doubt it!
Good for O'Reilly to get under the skin of these liberal gals!
Posted by: SeniorVet | October 14, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse
To wildthing1
Bin Laden himself admitted they did the 9/11 attacks. If we let up on him, he would attack us again in a similar or even worse manner- if such a thing is possible.
All that the residents of Afghanistan and Waziristan have to do to protect themselves from attacks is to stop harboring the Al Qaeda killers and turn them in for American justice. The attacks would stop almost immediately and withdrawal of the NATO troops would soon follow. That's the difference between what Obama is doing and what Bush did in Iraq.
In Iraq, Bush went in to stop Saddam Hussein from supporting the Hamas bombings in Israel. He was supplying them with explosives and paying a bounty of $25,000 each to the families of suicide bombers. I happen to think these actions of Saddam were wrong, but I think Bush could have waited to make a deal for help from the French and Russians. Except that he caved in to pressure from the Israeli lobby to move immediately to stop the bombings. From my perspective, the bombings were at least partly Israel's fault for having brought in a million Russians and others during the previous decade- many of whom were settled on Palestinian land. It was a crisis of Israel's own making, and forcing them to bear the brunt of it for a while could have been the basis for forcing their government into making meaningful concessions- like not only freezing settlements but actually dismantling a few.
So, that's why it is right to be in Afghanistan and it was wrong to be in Iraq. But you have to get past the idea that all actions by the US government are wrong; they are not.
Posted by: stillaliberal | October 14, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse
Timothy McVeigh was not motivated by Christianity.
Pedophiles as priests are not motivated by Catholicism.
Al-Qaeda is motivated by Islam.
You cannot use O'reilly's argument in the former 2 because the adjectives used to describe them have no bearing on their action. The same cannot be said for who we have come to know as terrorists. Some of you aren't open to the ideas of other people, are were too dumb to realize this.
What O'Reilly said was wrong, and he knew it. It is how he makes his money. Some of you are too enveloped in your own notions of him, his party, and what he represents to consider anything he says.
I am a democrat and am sick and tired of the way people in the media represent my party. Democrats in the public eye are whiny, close minded bigots who are so self righteous that they can't see their 24/7 hypocrisy. They want the help everyone, promote compromise and discussion, believe that they are open minded and receptive to change and opposing ideas, but then slander and smear anyone that doesn't agree with them. You don't have to agree with someone to respect their opinions and views. It is astonishing how the majority of politically involved Americans are adults but cannot act like one.
Posted by: geoffblack00 | October 14, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse
I can't see all the fuss. I mean...it's The View for crimeny sakes. It's not like it's a serious program. It's like Jerry Springer for girls. What's the big deal? O'Reilly goes on that show purposely to get that kind of response and it works every time. I'll bet he and his buddies sit around with a coupe of slugs of whiskey, replay the tapes and laugh their butts off. Anybody who gets all a kerfluffle about anything said on The View needs their head examined.
Posted by: PanhandleWilly | October 14, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse
O'Reilly could have chosen better words, but Behar and Whoppi are typical liberals; if you don't agree with them, you are not worth conversing with. I think both of them are dispicable.
Posted by: saelij |
Dude. Have you ever watched O'Reilly's show? He hardly tolerates those he disagrees with. Guess you missed the shows where he talks over people or hangs up on them or cuts their mikes.
Posted by: arancia12 | October 14, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse
For a minute I thought I was watching the Jerry Springer show. Barbara Walters should be ashamed of herself for permitting such behavior. I am sick and tired of all the jokes made by men in the office who believe all women behave this way. I am a liberal but I do not behave like an immature teenager who did not get her way. These women are an embarrassment.
Posted by: RafikiRuby
Miss the Glenn Beck show where he screams "Get off my phone!! Get off my phone, you little pinhead!!!"
Posted by: arancia12 | October 14, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse
While not all Muslims are extremist, all extremist muslims kill in the name of muslim. While Timothy McVeigh may have been a nominal christian, he didn't kill in the name of christianity. Many arguments above lack logic
Posted by: veterannz
I work with people who have tried to commit murders or suicide because their dead Grandfather told them to.
So do all dead Grandfathers advocate murder and suicide?
No. Some people will use any excuse to kill and others are just insane.
Posted by: arancia12 | October 14, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse
"Just as wrong as it to say teabaggers are racists. republicans are racists. republicans are rich white people."
Thinking the phrase "rich white people" is a pejorative is a liberal fantasy. Rest assured its something most of the population aspires to.
That's why liberals are so stupid.
Posted by: Ombudsman1 | October 14, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse
Oh, and hats off to "geoffblack00". He really gets it.
I respect his opinion, and even though I may not agree with all his views, I feel certain he's a stand-up kind of guy.
Posted by: Ombudsman1 | October 14, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse
No class, yes, but showing one's derriere sells. An obvious scripted act.
Posted by: logicprevails | October 14, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse
No class, yes, but showing one's derriere sells. An obvious scripted act.
Posted by: logicprevails | October 14, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse
Could Al Qaeda:
Get the Pentagon and NORAD to standdown for almost two hours on the morning on 9/11?
Place two U.S. aircraft carriers off the coast of Pakistan just prior to 9/11?
Place explosives in the WTC towers and Building 7 (with tenants like the Secret Service, CIA, SEC DoD etc?
Put Afghanistan invasion plans on Bush's desk two days before 9/11?
Get top Pentagon officials to cancel travel plans for the morning of 9/11 (See Newsweek article.)
Plan for the U.S. military to have military war games on 9/11 simulating planes crashing into buildings, going in and out of radar and drawing all but four fighter jets away for the Northeast air sector?
Place false blips (injects) on the screens of air traffic controllers on 9/11?
Take the main NORAD (NEADS) radar unit that covers the Northeast U.S. offline for maintenance on the morning of 9/11?
Place Bush and Condoleeza Rice crony Phillip Zelikow as the executive director of the 9/11 Commission?
Get Bush to sit silently in the school classroom for almost a half an hour after being told "The second tower has been struck. America is under attack"?
Get Bush and Cheney to only agree to speak to the 9/11 Commission together as long as no audio/video recordings or notes were taken?
Get the mainstream U.S. media to completely fail to question the 9/11 story and not investigate any of the lies and anomalies. Then cover up all of the damning evidence that has come out since 9/11?
The "official 9/11 story" is a complete farce. Please visit www.PatriotsQuestion911.com and www.AE911Truth.org.
Posted by: Cincy911Truth | October 14, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse
Other analogies Bill O'Dummy style:
1) Timothy Mcvey was an evangelical pseudo-christian, thus ALL evangelicals are hypocrites (not too far from the truth) and murderers.
2) Another one: KKK members are Bible thumping criminals who, in the name of Jesus, lynched and tortured thousands of African-Americans, ergo, ALL protestant Christians are murderers and nazis.
Posted by: analyst72 | October 14, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse
Television show hosts:
1. Don't invite guests on your show and then walk off your own show.
2. Just because you're an entertainer, don't assume you have intellectual credibility. How many of you graduated from an accredited university?
3. Hollywood needs to get over their sense of self-importance. We do not live and die based on what Oprah thinks, and girls, Whoopi and Joy are not on the same planet as Oprah.
Posted by: dskiff | October 14, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse
Don't get it twisted. There is no such thing as a "Christian terrorist." You can not be a Christian and a terrorist at the same time. Those who believe and follow Jesus are not terrorist. Terrorist who steal kill and destroy are not followers of Christ. God's Word warns Christians many times in the Bible about wolves, false teachers, false prophets, etc. The scriptures even talks about how everyone that says Lord, Lord shall not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. The scriptures also talks about how people honor Him (GOD) with their lips but their hearts are far from Him. I repeat don't get it twisted.
Posted by: MILLER123 | October 14, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse
I'd reckon it was all about ratings. I think back in the 70s-80s, when aircraft were being hijacked and airports bombed, the perpetrators were referred to as terrorists. I think it's enough to go with that, or extremists. As for what's his face, he's a ranting loony, akin to Beck, Palin, et al. What I find interesting is when people say that rather than get up and walk away from a "conversation," they should stay and talk it through. I'm old enough to know that's a bunch of idealistic horse puckey and only applies to specific situations. We all have our own opinions, most of which are not likely to change. Common sense tells you that when a person is on the rant, the issue is being lost in the rant and you will only engage in a shouting match. To what end? There is a difference between a debate or discussion and a rant. Believe what you want, I'll believe what I want. If I don't like what you say and you continue to say it, I'll walk away. No need for me to allow you to waste my time with your drivel. I've got better things to do.
Posted by: mooncusser | October 14, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse
Well, let'see: What would have happened if a Jew had blown up the towers and Bill O'Dummy had said "the Jews killed us on 9/11"?
Would he still be vomiting rith-wing propaganda in Fox News? or,
he would have been fired on the spot, like Rick Sanchez?
It seems Sanchez was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. The Jews do own the media....prove me wrong and fire O'Dummy.
Posted by: analyst72 | October 14, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse
There have been
Irish Terrorists – some members of the IRA
Jewish Terrorists – some members of Irgun
White Terrorists-some members of the KKK
Black Terrorists-some members of the Mau Mau
Christian Terrorists-some members of the Spanish Inquisition
Spanish Terrorists-some of those fighting the Spanish civil war (on both sides)
German Terrorists-Nazis
Socialist Terrorists-Stalinists
French Terrorists-Robespierre
The list goes on and on, but there are no Islamist Terrorists, and you had better remember that if you know what is good for you.
Posted by: droberts57 | October 14, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse
We know - recent survey- that too many Americans don't know zip about religion...Athiests know more than the others...that is why they are Athiests! Some of the "girls" on The View...tuck their jewelry - Cross- between their boobs and then wearing dresses that are too short..sit down, cross their legs...say something they think is serious and we get to see their upper thighs/crotch ...what is that all about? They were hot for awhile but now they turn into screaming shrews - talk above each other and look stupid...Joy and Whoopi do add a bit of reality- they are older and more experienced..Barbara needs to retire...enough! Also, they all have money, good shelter, good health insurance and they say ignorant things assuming that all women have what they have...sure ...have a heart bypass or whatever Barbara had...and they assume all women can do the same...guess what...not all of us have health insurance...cute doesn't work anymore and they are on the downhill slide ( for more serious, thinking women)INMH opinion... but junk tv is still fun for some.
Posted by: judithclaire1939 | October 14, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse
How mature and professional of the two women. They like to use the word 'tolerance' but where is their tolerance for his opinions and beliefs. As usual, tolerance is a one way street.
Posted by: KEE1 | October 14, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse
Timothy McVeigh; Jeffrey Dahmer; Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan; John Allen Muhammad; David Berkowitz; Charles Whitman (TX); Arthur Shawcross (NY) & Robert Lee Yates (WA).
Who are they? They are some of the U.S. mass murderers or serial killers.
What do they have in common? All veterans who killed at least 10 people.
I'm sure a lot of people are unaware of this fact because they are never identified as "veteran terrorist or veteran mass murderers or veteran serial killers".
Just as there are thousands of veterans who have never killed so are there thousands of Muslims who have never killed. Why do we find it so easy to indict others who may not look like the majority of us but we never ever label those who we most closely resemble.
Posted by: rlj1 | October 14, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse
For those that insist a Christian can't be a terrorist I would refer them to the behavior of the folks that settled this country - Christians all but they murdered the native Indians by act and deed. I might also point them to the behavior of Germany during WWI and WWII. They were Christians but they murdered innocents. I would also point them to the behavior of the Crusaders who were Christians but they murdered the Christians of the city of Constantinople when they layed siege to the city and then over ran it. All Christians!! As were the men that lynched blacks in the south -- all Christians.
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Posted by: 1561705755 | October 14, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse
"The View" consists of poorly educated women with malicious personality disorders, some of whom are influenced by their homosexuality. They are unable to give reasonable "views", but have hung on to their TV show by virtue of connections (Walters) and bullying (Behar et.al) to whomever accepts their invitation to grilling and insulting. A new low has been brought to TV by these witches.
Posted by: drzimmern1 | October 14, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse
I just can't grasp what all the uproar is about muslim/christian conflict. Osama Bin Laden was, is, a federal employee. Has been since the USSR invaded Afghanistan. If anyone is to blame, it is our own government.
I find it extremely difficult to imagine that with all the billions we have paid into our spy capabilities, we can't find a seven foot man that's dragging a dialysis machine around with him.
I still don't know why cellular communications were cut on that day, why nobody was protecting the coast, why nobody has mentioned Global Hawk Technology, the fourteen airbases that the US leased from Russia, or the fact that Siberia is the largest oil deposit in the world.
I think everyone should back up their thinking to within the borders of the United States, and repair the damage from there. Once that is completed, I'm fairly certain there will be nothing left to do.
Posted by: Longhand | October 14, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse
I have a few muslim friends that all say the same thing, terrorists do not practice Islam. They force their ignorant followers to learn the Quran only in Arabic that most do not understand and then bastardize the interpretation. Funny how the Quran says religious compulsion is a sin while the terrorists will cut off your elders head, rape your women if you don't follow them. While their justification comes from innocents may be harmed for a more just cause in the Quran, the lines following that say the families of the innocents harmed can take a proper revenge. When the Paki's scream murder about drone attacks, we should tell them it is the families of innocents harmed taking a proper revenge. Iraq was a terrible mistake not only there but in all of Islam that had sympathy for those attacked. The terrorists have given us 911, London, Madrid and countless other attacks against the west but have killed more Ulema than people in the west. Jihad is the struggle to promote Islam, fake jihadists do the opposite making non-believers think it is a religion of terror. If anything the Golden Age of Islam had Muslims far more advanced than Christianity of the same time, economically, medically and socially (they first established fair courts).
Posted by: jameschirico | October 14, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse
"The View" means you better have OUR VIEW ONLY or we will walk off the set!
Behar and Goldberg are total morons...
Muslims attacked America folks--"get over it"...
Posted by: charko825 | October 14, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse
At the beginning of WWII, the German submarines have sunk hundreds of Allied ships in the Atlantic ocean. I wonder if there were journalists complaining anybody saying " the Germans are sinking our ships and murdering our people".
Posted by: ypcchiu | October 14, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse
This episode symbolizes America's frustration with the Fox News talking points that define today's Republican party. How do you argue with a child who refuses to use his brain?
Posted by: SmallBusiness | October 14, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse
Telling a woman, "Shut up, you might learn something" is demeaning. Bill O'Reilly should be ashamed of himself. Why do GOP women put up with this treatment??
Posted by: SmallBusiness | October 14, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse
It does not matter what the left, the right, the liberals, the conservatives call a huge number of people who have declared war on anyone that does not adhere to their beliefs and professed to killing anyone who challenges them. THEY call themselves Muslims and they justify their action by saying they are doing what their Islam tells them to do. Do they represent all Muslims? Of course not. But, to ignore how they describe themselves is idiotic.
Posted by: mike9270 | October 14, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse
Our most recent Christian Terrorists kill doctors who perform abortions and others march at graveyards to scream at dead soldiers who may or may not be gay...Christian terrorists have a long history...but history is not a big item with too many Americans who haven't gone to school or who don't use their public libraries.
Posted by: judithclaire1939 | October 14, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse
These women obviously live in a left-wing bubble, and aren't used to having to defend their positions. Walking off the set was an act of cowardice, not principle.
BTW they are wrong about Muslim "extremists". After the 2005 London train bombings Channel 4 in the UK polled British Muslims and got the following results:
24% agreed or tended to agree that the bombings were justified.
45% thought 9/11 was carried out by the US or Israel.
36% said they wanted Sharia law in the UK.
50% said British people who insult Islam should be arrested and prosecuted.
When a quarter to a half of Islam holds these kinds of views you can't blame it on "extremists".
Posted by: joeschwind1 | October 14, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse
That filthy RACIST is a BULLY! He does the same thing on his show, screaming over his guest, cutting off their mics.
I totally agree with the women of the for not allowing this idiot to take over their show. Without them, their is no VIEW.
Posted by: jla3312 | October 14, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse
Its always better to err on the side of doubt than being naive. So is better to take the Quran seriously in its totality than being naive and listen to the clerics of the Islam Religion suggesting that the Quran should be interpreted only by them. So what the Quran , the entire Quran, not just some handpicked verses, say to do to the nonbelievers?
Posted by: ThishowIseeit | October 14, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse
Archie Bunker was funny and was bold. He introduced to the American public the face of bigotry long hidden behind walls. Archiebald Bunker made us all laugh at a time when America was ready for a laugh although very much in denial.
Bill O'Reilly is NOT funny, although Bill is a bigot, an extremist and a very ill individual. Bill O'Reilly is NOT Archie Bunker and unlike "Archie" Bill has nothing new to teach, or lend our society. Bill O'Reilly is not any better than the terrorists who brought down the icons of our Big Apple, not any different than Hitler or Mussolini, or Franco, Stalin and Castro. Bill O'Reilly follows on the footsteps of Osama Bin Laden by definition... with all his hatred and bigotry, with his extremist attitude at a time when our nation needs to heal and carry on. We CANNOT, because of some, condemn a whole nation, race or religion...and ought to practice what we preach... to condemn a whole religion for the fault of some of its fools is to condemn ourselves in Hell for eternity, for we have behaved just the same throughout history. Our first mayor offense began here at home with the American Natives then we took on the Black Slaves and treated them as animals...then we began ransacking the natural resources of foreign countries bringing chaos into those lands... The very lands that today are protesting, in ill and just as sickening ways as we treated them for hundreds of years. We created the monsters we face today! People like Bill O'Reilly are to be blamed for all the ground Zeros of our world and we should NOT put up with it.
Nothing ever said or written have ever given a clear picture of the Anti Christ... we being the fools that we're think of it as our minds allow us to... but the Anti Christ does NOT necessarily have to be in one man's body, nor ten... we all have a little of Anti Christ in us... Bill O'Reilly does... Bin Laden do and even Archibald Bunker did in his days... Thank God we all tought him to be funny which Bill O'Reilly is NOT!
Posted by: MyPoemsMyThoughts | October 14, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse
Bill O'Reilly gets on my nerves big time, but their behavior was just uncalled for. It simply astounds me that anyone would want to go on that show with those obnoxious, used up harridans in the first place. Nor do I understand why anyone bothers to watch them.
Posted by: Lilycat11 | October 14, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse
The missing link in the discussion over terrorism is the candid debate over why it occurs and why we don't discuss and debate our relationship with Israel. Is the relationship and the billions in cost in our strategic interest, or is it the factor as OBL stated that was behind 9-11?
Posted by: anagitator | October 14, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse
Jerry Springer gets ratings when people fight and throw chairs.
That's all this was.
Posted by: kls1 | October 14, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse
Anyone else see the irony in the fact that Behar and Goldberg supported the "Ground Zero" mosque by expressing intolerance for Bill O'Reilly's viewpoints?
Posted by: diehardlib | October 14, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse
I can understand why the women were angered because O'Reilly blatantly used racism. The same hate that was been displayed in America since slavery. People demonstrate racism in undercover ways just like O'Reilly did on the view!
Posted by: kw1992 | October 14, 2010 11:39 PM | Report abuse
Goldberg and Behar are very angry ladies. Do we really have to be politically correct and say Muslim "Extremists" attaced us? Give me a break! They embarressed themselves yet again. "The View" needs to be renamed, because these ladies absolutely do NOT tolerate other views (even if a majority of Americans have the same "other" view). Being that Goldberg and Behar are far, far left, most views are not like theirs, and thus they do not tolerate much. They continue to be a joke, and don't even realize it.
Posted by: Alexandria1962 | October 15, 2010 6:52 AM | Report abuse
Goldberg and Behar are very angry ladies. Do we really have to be politically correct and say Muslim "Extremists" attaced us? Give me a break! They embarressed themselves yet again. "The View" needs to be renamed, because these ladies absolutely do NOT tolerate other views (even if a majority of Americans have the same "other" view). Being that Goldberg and Behar are far, far left, most views are not like theirs, and thus they do not tolerate much. They continue to be a joke, and don't even realize it.
Posted by: Alexandria1962 | October 15, 2010 6:52 AM | Report abuse
I can just imagine what American Bible Thumpers would do in this country if they had more political power.
Posted by: chicagostanford | October 15, 2010 7:59 AM | Report abuse
It's amazing, you are quick to find any Christian connection an abortion clinic bomber might have, quick to find a Christian connection to white supreacist groups, but Heaven forbid we say anything bad about Muslims. Hypocrisy at its best.
They were Muslim terrorists hell bent on destroying American lives. They did it. They have been doing it since Carter was president. Time to acknowledge it and call it what it is.
Posted by: taocpa | October 15, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse
Would someone tell that twit...Elizabeth...that her dress was up to her crotch??? She is the epitome of the dumb blonde. O'Reilly is a creep and I was please to see Whoopie and Joy walk off...Walters should have not allowed that ignorant bigot on the show.
Posted by: cendrine | October 15, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse
One question:
Could we make the "walk-off" permanent...and take BaBa WhaWha with them?
God, what an absolute waste of bandwidth...
Posted by: sosueme1 | October 15, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse
O'Reily stated the obvious and the waco Left wing liberals refused to admit any
cupability by muslims. There is no
doub that these were Muslims, there were
recodeing from the passengers telephones
where you heard them in the background. They were identified by photographs at the
airport. They were identifyied as taking
pilot training at various locations. The Liberals on the View are sponsored by the Obama left wing media and do nothing more than screech and scream if any truth comes out or especiall oposing views from a bunch of old hags who hate American but enjoy the good life they have here. I would love to see them in a Muslim country and wonder how long they would last befor
being stoned or beheaded?
Posted by: jmsmaxwell | October 15, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse
Rational people know to a certainty that 19 muslims flew four airliners on September 11, 2001 and killed many Americans. The idea that Americans are now allowed to say that is madness that only soft-headed liberals might be able to explain. If liberals want to add "extremist" to muslim, they are welcome to do so. But they will not tell me or any other American how we will talk about 9/11. Liberals are essentially totalitarian about their beliefs. It is no wonder that so many were similarly tolerant of the Soviet Union. Recall how liberals reacted with rage when President Reagan called the USSR "an evil emnpire." Liberals do not change.
Posted by: mhr614 | October 15, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse
O'Reilly was factually correct.. the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 were Muslims. So when he said "Muslims" he was right. That said when the IRA in the past set off bombs in London it is factually correct to say Catholics did it. But is that how O'Reilly would phrase it? I doubt it, my guess is he would call them what they are.. IRA terrorists. Therefore O'Reilly should have used the term Islamic terrorists. Now since he didn't what the women of the view should have done was instead of walking off just make O'Reilly be more clear by what he means when he says Muslims..
Posted by: sovine08 | October 15, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse
Muslims and Christians, the 2 most violent peoples on earth. Christian terrorists blow up a building in Oklahoma City, Muslim terrorists blow up the Trade Centers in New York. Our prisons are filled with Christians. What does that tell you? It all smacks of hypocrisy. Devout Christians don't feel like they have to shout that fact from the mountain tops. Be aware of those that do. Jesus save me from your followers.
Posted by: chopin224 | October 15, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse
There is a very simple solution here. As soon as the Muslim Community stops saying that Christians are to blame for the Crusades, we will stop blaming Muslims for terrorism.
Of course, the big difference here is that there is nothing in the Christian Bible that orders people to kill infidels. You cannot say the same for the ramblings of the Prophet.
Yes, people who want to commit violence can twist anything to "justify" their actions; but to claim that violence against people who reject the tenets of Islam is not regularly preached and supported by the Koran is naive, at best.
Does this mean that every Muslim is a terrorist, of course not. But you cannot claim that their religion has nothing to do with making them terrorists, just as you cannot say that the Catholic Church in Spain 500 years ago had nothing to do with creating the Inquisition and its atrocities.
Posted by: catie-boy | October 15, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse
Goldberg and Behar walked off the set. I'm having trouble finding the down side of that.
Posted by: giscone | October 15, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse
Sure are a lot of "monuments to Catholic rapists" in this country! Makes meeee sick!
Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | October 15, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse
What the ladies and O'Reilly failed to mention is that O'Reilly's boss, a minority owner of Fox News and a business partner of Rupert Murdoch, is financing the Islamic Center in question. They only touched on the fact that this is election year propoganda. O'Reilly mentioned that there are 100 mosques in NYC. There is a mosque 4 blocks from Ground Zero. It opened 2 years ago. It got no media attention. The difference with this one is that Fox News has manufactured this controversy to boost ratings and influence the election.
Posted by: mjoy | October 15, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse
Your posting would be interesting if any of it were true. Most consider me a liberal and yet I do not fit any of the actions or descriptions made by you. I am 62, served during Viet Nam and always knew that the USSR was an evil empire. All of my liberal friends felt the same way. If one were to take the approach you do then one would say conservatives are in favor of re-instituting slavery. Many conservatives wear white sheets and burn crosses.
Posted by: chopin224 | October 15, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse
AhhYes ~ in ingles if you say "moslem terrorist" that does not mean "ALL MOSLEMS are terrorists".
We frequently use the form "adjective noun" whereas many of you, who are more in tune with other languages, use "noun adjective" and add a suffix to bring the adjective into agreement with the noun.
What you have to do is begin to think in English and check with your grammar books when in doubt.
Frankly, I am tired of non-native English speaking people telling me how to parse English sentences.
If you don't like the way we talk you can GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
Posted by: muawiyah | October 15, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse
Extremity in counter-argument does not result in peace.
Christians have a sordid history of subjecting vast numbers- entire populations- with terror: for "Gold, Glory and God."
There are strip clubs in closer proximity to Ground Zero than the mosque will be. No one on either side, seems to be too concerned about that.
Bill O'Riley sayng he spoke "inartfully" means he will not change his mind. He will continue to believe that all Muslims are terrorists, but will perhaps describe this belief in a "nicer" way.
I don't know about you, but to me a person who believes that all Muslims are terrorists seems a frightened, insecure and slightly psychotic individual.
And I ask anyone, how many Muslims do YOU really know?
Posted by: poppysue85 | October 15, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse
So just so I'm clear on this, Behar didn't like what O'Reilly was saying, so she decided to attack him personally and stormed off the set? Regardless of O'Reilly is and what he says, that's extremely unprofessional and immature. They knew full well he was going to come on that show and say some controversial things (jeez, isn't it a debate-style show anyway?). So it sounds to me like 'The View' means, this is our view, and if you say something that doesn't jibe with that view, we're going to close our ears to you, call you names, take our ball and go home.
Posted by: pswift00 | October 15, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse
Let me get this straight. Liberalism is a mental disorder? Since when? Since a man of color got in the White House. All Muslims are terrorists, polygamists, etc? Then what does that make Mormons. Conservatives you have tied your fate to people who don't border, but ride the wave of facism. Bill O'Reilly? Really? What are his qualifications. What has he run for? What business has he run? Sarah Palin? Really? 5 colleges in 6 years? Ethics charges in her first term. and who can forget the Katie Couric interview or her "I can see Russia," statement. She makes Reagan look like a Rhodes scholar. And now you've got Christine O'Donnell. Wow, you guys sure are delusiional. I thought you guys were against drug use. Evidently not, because you drank the Kool Aid. Listen, I get that you're not happy about a Black man in office. But the man is overly qualified. You're lucky to get someone w/that much intelligence. Hell, you wanted McCain who graduated at the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy? Maybe if you had treated Jack Kemp better while he was alive, you wouldn't be in this predicament. Let them build the Mosque. It's really not that big a deal. The reasoning for not building there doesn't hold water. There or 20 blocks away really doesn't matter. You cannot heal until until you forgive. Right now, the extremists still control you. Whether they blow up buildings or spout hate on tv, they control you.
Posted by: ktaylor15 | October 15, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse
mjoy ~ the building in question IS part of ground zero. This is where Mohammad Atta's plane came to rest (in substantial part).
Makes it part of a grave site.
Did you follow this story? The outline is planes hit buildings; 1 plane slid almost all the way through; major parts landed on another building; fire weakens structures; buildings collapse; thousands dead.
Hope that brings you up to date.
Posted by: muawiyah | October 15, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse
I see alot of people posting comments like, "typical liberal" and "typical democrat." Comments like that only justify the argument that Whoopi and Joy were making. O'reilly and his ilk see the terrorists as "typical Muslims," and therein lies the problem. Judge each invidual, as Dr. King so eloquently put it, by the content of their character--and nothing else.
Posted by: largetony86 | October 15, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse
You're welcome to appear on the View as long as you share their view.
Hypocrites, weasels!
Posted by: panola60 | October 15, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse
O'Reilly's initial remarks were worthy of criticism, as he himself agreed, because he was lumping all Muslims with being terrorists. I think he had a point to make, but was unfortunately and rudely interrupted.
Goldberg and Behar are not "journalists" or "political scientists". They are also not very mature. When Bill said "listen, you'll learn something", I understand why Behar took offense, but Bill was right! If you only spout your own point of view and tune out or walk away when others express opposing views, then you will never learn to express yourself and your beliefs well.
It's too easy to upset these women and Bill just couldn't help himself. I don't blame him and I hate the notion that The View represents women's view points. It doesn't reflect mine.
Posted by: hebe1 | October 15, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse
The only real professional and mature person on The View was Barbara Walters, who, as a journalist, knows how to listen and ask the appropriate clarification from the guest. Whoopi and Joy simply embarrassed women and liberals all over the US by running away. Thank you, Barbara, for staying, listening and asking the appropriate questions of a guest that was invited on your show. It's "The View" and if Joy and Whoopi can't tolerate other views, then leave the show.
Posted by: KiminCalifornia | October 15, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse
Democrats need to engage this jerk and roughly and rudely get in his face. The republicans long ago forgot bipartisanship, screw them. Put their face in the stew and push down with your democratic feet. They might not listen after that but they'll get the point.
Posted by: citizen625 | October 15, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse
ABC should walk out on their paychecks for a day. They booked a guest which these players decided they should treat rudely and walk out on and their contractual duties to ABC. The minimum that they should suffer is loss of pay for the day.
Posted by: edbyronadams | October 15, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse
Sorry, I was working, did I miss something important?
Posted by: Gooddogs | October 15, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse
Well, all of the 9/11 terrorist hijackers were Muslim. However, the larger issue is that throughout history most violence - at every level of society - is done in the name of either greed or religion, oftentimes both. I'm not holding my breath for America to have that discussion; we'd have to acknowledge that nearly everything related to capitalism and democracy over the past 30 years has been dirt smeared on basic ethics and decency, as well as the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Posted by: streetnoise | October 15, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse
Posted by: jmcnamee1 | October 15, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse
In response to 9/11, we attacked and killed a whole bunch of Muslims who had nothing to do with 9/11. Are we then Christian terrorists? Even if we didn't support killing innocent people?
I do not object to the term "Muslim terrorist". When I use this term, I mean terrorists who are Muslim and who are motivated by extremist Islam. BUT a lot of conservatives use this term to mean that all Muslims are responsible for acts of terror by other Muslims. O'Reilly encourages this kind of blanket blaming. That is how we end up killing a lot of innocent people, thanks to people with such cave-dwelling mentality.
Posted by: DavidH3 | October 15, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse
It was nice to see the two fat liberals waddle off the stage. This should be a daily event as it's obviously the most exercise they get. Talk about no-class huzzzies. Better yet, I can see the lead role line-up for the Dumb and Dumber II movie in those two.
I NEVER watch this show but I will be front and center for the November 3rd offering (as long as its not a re-run) to hear the excuses and projections. That will be a good show.
Posted by: MDDem1 | October 15, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse
O'Reilly should be more careful in his choice of words...NOT because he needs to be 'politically correct' (which most of us are sick of) but because saying 'Muslims' is simply inaccurate. He could and should have more accurately said 'Muslim extremists' or something which would have more accurately communicated what I believe he intended to say.
That being said, the walk-off action of Behar and Goldberg was far worse and only serves to demonstrate their own intolerance for other views. How ironic the show is called 'The View'. Sure. As long as it agrees with THEIR view.
Posted by: kprice1 | October 15, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse
good tv is five people screaming at the same time,,does ted dansen ever look in the mirror and say how could I ever,,,,,,,,,,
Posted by: gonville1 | October 15, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse
"Citizen625 posted: Democrats need to engage this jerk and roughly and rudely get in his face. The republicans long ago forgot bipartisanship, screw them. Put their face in the stew and push down with your democratic feet. They might not listen after that but they'll get the point..."
Wow. Fighting words from the Dupont crcle swishy hips boy. O'Reilly would kick the stuffin' out of ya, Citizen and I'd pay good greenbacks to see it, too! You talk tough but I doubt you'd be out of the hospital in time for the election.
Posted by: MDDem1 | October 15, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse
I really feel sorry for Barbara Walters. She put her heart and soul into making the View a serious, intelligent show and she ends up being constantly embarrassed and humiliated by these two stupid twits. And I thought Rosie O'Donnell was bad.
Posted by: bbface21 | October 15, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse
Basically I agree with Bill, As we americans watched with horror the events that unfolded on 9/11 the citizens in the arab countries danced in the streets. Where I live if you run with the pack you are as guilty as the lead dog. Now I realize the average citizen in the arab countries is not part of the terrorist group but they give acceptance and support to the terrorist by thier actions. In my opinon it is a convient way for a country to attacked another country without it being called an act of war.
Posted by: whatsoeverthing | October 15, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse
So typical of liberals - when faced with the truth, reality, and a tough situation, what do you do? Well, you have no idea what you're talking about so you don't know how to counter the argument so you make a scene and walk away from it. Like O'Reilly was so wrong he wasn't even worth talking to. I don't know how anyone can watch The View except for Elizabeth Hasselbeck - people really have to realize what imbeciles Whoopi and Joy Behar really are, don't they? Good for Bill O'Reilly and I guarantee you will never see any thing but other ridiculous liberals as guests on that show. "They can't handle the truth!"
Posted by: AsstGM | October 15, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse
Why is he talking to these two moronic lesbians in the first place?
Posted by: Ontoher | October 15, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse
The best post here has it totally correct. Most religious whackos killing within our country do so IN SPITE OF THEIR Religion.
However the Muslims do it FOR THEIR Religion.
Big Big Big difference....
Posted by: ISAYS | October 15, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse
When Whoopi defended Polanski and said it wasn't "rape" rape no one walked off. Behar calls Christians mentally ill because they believe in prayer.
Like most on the far left, they only believe in what they "feel"; they don't think.
Posted by: fishcrow | October 15, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse
The 2 women from The View live in gated communities and eat in restaurants most people couldn't begin to afford, how can they know what it's like in the real world. Also when there is a catastrophe in the world what country is the first to respond Iran or the USA?
Posted by: think11 | October 15, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse
Love him or hate him Mr. O'Reilly in a very round about way was trying to point out the appropriateness of building a mosque on the site where six men of a specific religion in the name of their deity or god committed one of the greatest crimes of our time. These weren't members of a country's military, these were civilians, like you and I. You don't see a group of Christians, Jews, Buddist or others, hijacking and then driving civilian planes into icons of their society in the name of Jesus, or David, they did this in the name of Allah. It symbolizes a conquest, no different than putting a flag above the White House or your house. They hit us and they believe that the spoils go to the victor. In this case, they want to place a icon of this conquest on the site where Buddist, Muslims, Jews, Atheists, Christians and all others were killled. I am a Republican, Mr. O'reilly by his own admission is a "conservative-independent" not a Democrat or Republican. Do I agree with allowing a mosque being built on this site, No! Do I agree that our constitution does not bar them from doing so, Yes. It is not for you or I to debate this, what property right do you or I have to this site, None. Do I want it in my backyard, in all honesty, No. (Nimby) Not because it is muslim, but because of the uneasyness it would bring to an otherwise predominantly christian community. Let's face facts, we are about as tolerent of muslims as they are about us. If you doubt my words, travel to the most moderate muslim country, Jordan. You will feel an overwhelming uneasyness as you step off of the plane, travel to any of the other countries in the region and you will immediately be given advice that you are not safe. I won't discuss the sentiments of western europeans. These are the facts. Several years ago I wore the uniform of our country and defended our flag in a foreign country, actually twice. First Lebannon then Panama, I understood the disdain of a foreign military in a foreign country, but our projection of power was not that of conquerers or occupiers, we were there on a mission to restore or keep peace in the absence of an organized force at the request of that government. We did not drive planes into buildings, we didn't encourage women and children to wrap themselves in explosives and board a bus or train, or a marketplace in the name of our god, but seemingly every day you hear the phrase "in the name of Allah". Have a safe day wherever you are.
Posted by: fuegoman1958 | October 15, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse
Liberals are big supporters of free speech......as long as you agree with them.
What I don't understand is what does the left have to gain by defending muslims? The left is quick to criticize christians and jews, but defend muslims even though muslim terrorists want to kill americans in the name of allah. It is not like muslims are a large voting block that the dems want to exploit such as minorities and the lower class.
In regards to the view, it is true that not all muslims are terrorists (which Bill did not say or imply) but most terrorists are muslims, no matter how inconvenient that might be for democrats.
Posted by: garrett4 | October 15, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse
All Muslims are NOT terrorists... there are hundreds of millions of loving, kind and non-Sharia Muslims BUT...
unfortunatly MOST terrorists are devout Muslims...
unfortunately MOST polygamists are devout Muslims...
unfortunately MOST honor-killings are committed by devout Muslims.
Moderate non-Sharia Muslims need too STOP the extremism in their communities.
Posted by: pvilso24
This reminds of the criticism that Black people need to do something about the problems within the race. Why am I responsible for what other Black people do? Why am I responsible if another Black person becomes a criminal? Why is a peaceful Muslim responsible for controlling the actions of a violent Muslim? You never hear of all White people being blamed for the actions of a few (which may not be true in all countries).
Posted by: forgetthis | October 15, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse
When I picture history's great thinkers in my mind's eye I really don't put O'Reilly very high on that pyramid but Whoopty Doo Goldberg and Joy Blowhard don't even cross my mind. As for Islam, MuhamMAD had a child "bride". Nuff said.
Posted by: clayp72 | October 15, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse
I like AhhYes's response.
If the 9/11 terrorists were muslims, then all muslims are terrorists.
If the pedophiles who abused young boys were christians, then all christians are pedophiles.
Bill O'Reily claims to be a christian, therefore, he is a pedophile.
Isn't Logic Wonderful!
Posted by: mhoust | October 15, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse
I think the ladies of the view are so biased and deceitful, I don't watch them anymore.
Joy is an absolute moron. She loves Ron Paul yet is an Obamabot.
I caught a glimpse of them when Boxer was on and was dumfounded when Boxer and Barbara Walters blamed the whole economic mess on Bush. Sheesh!
They need someone on like Ann Coulter on to foil these idiots. Hasselbeck has her heart in the right place but is a lightweight.
I guess that's what the other four loony libs want.
That show is a mess.
Posted by: Marrabella | October 15, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse
As much as Islam is detestable, it would be a wonderful irony for liberals to have to live under islamic law.......
Liberals forget gay and women's rights when it comes to islam.
Interesting ideology liberalism....in bed with islam as islam hangs over 4000 homosexuals a year world wide as it subjugates women.
Posted by: georgedixon1 | October 15, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse
Give me a break... those women knew they wouldn't agree with any of his views. What did they think was going to happen? They'd all get along? Why even bother inviting him on the show? They should have just had Obama come by so they could lick his boots again?
What credentials do any of these knuckleheads (O'Reiley included) have to make informed political commentary?
Posted by: mrj09 | October 15, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse
Bill O'Reilly is a PIG, BIGOT, RACISTS & MORON!
He's pandering to the Right Wing of America that are so close to TERRORISTS their eyes have turned yellow & brows from all the LIES!
You can't have an intelligent conversation with extremest on either side and you sure can't have intelligent conversation with the NUT JOBS ON THE RIGHT BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THEIR POINT OF VIEW. THEY SAY THERE RIGHT AND EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE PLANET ARE WRONG.
The FAKE Christian right in America will KEEP THIS WAR GOING FOR EVER IT'S THE CHRISTIANS THAT ARE FIGHTING A HOLLY WAR ON AMERICAN SOIL.
Every day Christians are fighting the American people. Christians are attempting to TAKE OVER OUR NATION AND FORM THEIR VISION OF A NEW AMERICA WITH MEXICO & CANADA. Under Bush it was called THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION, NO BOARDERS, NO PASSPORTS EVERYBODY IS FREE TO TRAVEL FROM MEXICO TO AMERICA AND CANADA NON STOP!
Christians want the Church to be the new civil & criminal court of law, The Church will said if you are guilty or not and the mindless flock passed judgment. You are guilty off to for profit prison or jump to the head of the line and they KILL YOU for not worshiping their FAKE god!
Either you believe as they do or you go to jail for reeducation it's called! You fail that you are not fit to be around their children so either they KILL YOU or you spend the rest of your life in prison!
Nobody with an IQ above 50 should ever trust a Republican or vote Republican ever again!
America's LARGEST PROBLEM ARE THE REPUBLICANS AND THE CHRISTIAN RIGHT!
Posted by: imZandor | October 15, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse
Oh thats right they weren't muslims they were martians. Woopie is a bull dog dike that makes me sick to my stomach. Take time to weed out the muslims in America they dont belong here.
Posted by: DeanM1 | October 15, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse
Maybe Lenin was on to something about religion and opiates....
Posted by: Bellasdad | October 15, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse
restonhoops comments that Nazi=socialist.
This is so stupid and tired. The Nazis were right-wing fascists and hated and fought anyone remotely of the left or center. Kind of like the tea partiers.
Posted by: scientist1 | October 15, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse
I am still laughing about your 9:35PM post from last evening...
"used up harridan"
I can't wait to work that into a conversation.
Posted by: menopausequeen | October 15, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse
"Christian Terrorists". The majority of Americans identify as Christian and know many Christians. There is no danger of people making the mistake that Christian=Terrorist.
For Muslims, this does not hold. And all the posters here and elsewhere who insist that Islam is violent or that most terrorists in the world are Muslims or that Muslims are a threat to our security and way of life are evidence of this tendency - to turn "Muslim Terrorists" into MUslim=Terrorist.
This leads to Islamaphobia, bigotry, and discrimination.
It diverts attention from the real sources of terrorism.
It divides us from the 99.999% of Muslims who reject terrorism and are our best allies in hunting down those who bloody the image of Islam and pervert the faith by claiming to act in its name.
It accepts these criminals perverted doctorines as normal Islam.
It helps accomplish terrorists' goals by spreading fear of Muslims.
If you want to say "terrorists claiming to act in the name of Islam", ok. "Islamic terrorists" is a lazy shortcut.
Posted by: j3hess | October 15, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse
You can tell by reading these blogs that we still have a very high unemployment percentage. Please people, GO GET A JOB. (I am retired-Thank God!)
Posted by: catransplant2 | October 15, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse
"No universally agreed, No legally binding, No criminal law for the definition of terrorism currently exists."
The modern world (Infidels) is in a disagreement with the Islamic world (True Faith).
The Modern world defines the events of September 11th as a cowardly terrorist act against innocent civilians and citizens of the United States.
The Muslim world defines the events of September 11th as a mortal blow to the Financial Center and Military Headquarters of an evil empire by warriors of The True God.
Liberals and/or Moderates are erroneously arguing, the definition of the word terrorist and terrorism. There exist no gray area or clear view on either side of this obscure theory, these opposing sides must all agree along with world leaders. That Muslims are a religiously and fundamentally dangerous in their extreme beliefs and their Warriors of God (Assassins, Serial Killers, Mass Murderers and Naive Young Men/Women) will have no moral obligation or self conscience or legal justification, when they kill infidels to protect their beliefs, by any means necessary.
Currently the loudest voices on this issue are liberal societies and modern governments. The Muslims (population of Billions) around this entire planet continue to be silent. WHY..?? Islamic countries .i.e. Saudi Arabia, Libya, Egypt, Palestine, Turkey, Pakistan ect. . ect. . Theocratic Governments like Iran, they all continue to be silent. WHY…?
If anything please remember.
Warriors of God (Islamic [(Assassins, Serial Killers, Mass Murderers and Naive Young Men/Women)]) have no need to defend their moral obligation or self conscience or provide legal justification, when they kill infidels to protect their religious beliefs.
Terrorist is just a vague word. Why argue, discuss, debate..???
Bill O'Reilly's fight with the ladies of 'The View' was a pointless exercise and both parties cannot see beyond the obvious. Islam does not care for the opinions of Infidels. It is most likely that these discussions and TV programs and News articles serve as fodder "only". To be digitally filtered and edited by Islamic countries and governments to reinforce their agendas and propagandas to encourage more Muslims towards hatred against the Infidels of this entire planet.
And now you know why Muslims Countries and Governments around the world will continue to remain silent..? Terrorist is a word used by infidels against the warriors of God and nothing more… Appeasement, Empathy or Defense of this religion of Islam is a very dangerous and treacherous road. Regardless, of the moral obligations and issues of freedom for all…
Posted by: BFJustus | October 15, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse
As for Islam, MuhamMAD had a child "bride". Nuff said.
Posted by: clayp72
Not really.
Marriage is a custom that takes different forms and performs different functions in various cultures. The age at which one becomes suitable for marriage varies.
Aisha was already betrothed to another (who remained a pagan and eventually declined her hand) before her betrothal to Muhammed. These commitments where often made with politics in mind; and alliance with Aisha's well-connected father and his tribe would be good for Muhammed.
Writers emphasizing her youth at betrothal were making a point: her virginity. Chastity was/is extremely important within the culture. Writers also celebrate Aisha and her marriage to Muhammed; there is no sense that it was regarded as aberrant. Up into the 1960s, 9 was the minimum age for marriage in one or two of the U.S. states.
Mores change. Ideas about what constitutes a child or an adult change. If you want to criticize the mores of tribal cultures of the Middle East, feel free, but Muhammed was behaving well within those mores.
Posted by: j3hess | October 15, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse
Wasn't point of the mosque/cultural center/gym/swimming pool/ peace center to bring people together? Don't think it's working.
Posted by: ZHRR
It wasn't controversial at all last Novemeber when it was first announced. Then an Islamophobe used the right-wing blogosphere to make an issue of it, and thousands of weak-minded people followed her lead.
The only way to defeat bigotry is to refuse to give in to it.
Posted by: j3hess | October 15, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse
In response to ballston54 who posted the following:
"Timothy McVeigh and his helpers attacked us in April 1995 in Oklahoma City. I guess means Christians attacked us then."
That is a poor comparison.
McVeigh did not blow up the federal building in the name of Christianity. The Muslims who attacked us on 9/11 did so in the name of Islam.
Posted by: lise2 | October 15, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse
The comments that there are only a few Muslim Radicals all one has to do is look at Iran, Pakistan, Saudia Arabia, Afghan, Syria, Mogadishu, just to name a few and it is no longer just a few, but millions. Back around 1776 all the colonists were called rebels by England. If our President would stand up to Sharia Law, and get tough with Iran, and North Korea things would be different. Soon Iran will have a nuke and the missle to deliever with 2012 approaching.
Posted by: LessGovNow | October 15, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse
Its easy to pick out the liberals in the crowd, they are usually the ones confusing the facts with misunderstandings and misinterpretations...very reactionary lot they tend to be.
Bill O'Reilly plainly stated that Muslims attacked us on 9-11. Bill O'reilly is FACTUALLY correct. Every single "EXTREMIST" on those aircraft identified themselves as MUSLIMs PERIOD. They were following the written tenents delineated in the HOLY KORAN (QURAN). Bill was not only literally correct, he was FACTUALLY correct. The Liberal Ladies on the View, all non-Muslims I might point out, are FACTUALLY INCORRECT, as is typical for Liberals on many many subjects, mainly because they are driven by emotion and political correctness, vice the FACTS.
Note to LIBERALS, even those who commented otherwise here: BILL O'Reilly NEVER said ALL MUSLIMS attacked us on 9-11. NOPE.
Posted by: bsmdbt | October 15, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse
This episode of "The View" shows reason some of its staff seem to call it "THE view." It appeared as though there are those on the program who are there more to manipulate people toward "THE view" than to allow people to express "a" view.
These two ladies, who walked out on their own show, would probably say they are very tolerate, but actually they only tolerate "THE view," not the opinion of others. They refused to continue to dialogue even to find out the complete view of someone else.
On this episode, they appeared as though they are there to "gang up on someone" until that person expresses "THE view" or they will throw a tantrum.
Mr O'Reilly, though referred to by some as arrogant, came across here as being able to express a view and be willing to learn what opinions others have. Ms Walters, whatever her agenda, demonstrated her ever-present professionalism.
Many people seem only to demand a certain type of "tolerance" shown to them, while refusing to demonstrate that tolerance to others. Thank you, Ms Walters, for demonstrating maturity in the midst of immature sorority-type prima donnas who seem to want to bully.
Posted by: TheAmbassador1 | October 15, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse
Umm all you liberals, heres another fact for you:
70% of AMERICANS AGREE WITH BILL and not with your radical politically correct BS view. it is you liberals who arent seeing things in tune with mainstream America, not Bill O'Reilly.
Posted by: bsmdbt | October 15, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse
What the frak does stomping out and labeling someone a Liberal have to do with this? O'Reilly and many other "tea-baggers" should wear a bully label. He was and is rude by any social criteria. Liberals give up, because of the rudeness and lack of civility of the opposition - who has more cotton in their ears? And one side loves to hear themselves speak - gibberish or otherwise. Never even contemplate bipartisanship of the years gone by. Their way or the highway. If anything will tear this country apart it is this "new" concept in ideology. The terrorist is now the one who does not yield or defer to common sense.
Posted by: tom325 | October 15, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse
Farmboy 1571 who commented earlier here is typical and representative of the primary problem most people with dissenting views have; he is woefully uninformed. In his opening statement he says "I will agree Bill Oreilly misspoke when he chastized all Muslims as killers. It simply isn't true! He was right to apologize."
If Farmboy had ever listened to Mr. Oreilly he would know beyond a shadow of doubt that Mr. Oreilly has never characterized (the word I believe he was actually searching for, and even if it wasn't he misspelled "chastised") all Muslims as killers, and has in fact bent over backwards and sideways to specifically point out that the vast majority of Muslims are peace loving law abiding citizens; which is absolutely true.
Again, when has Oreilly gone out of his way to positively portray the majority of Muslims? Simply every time he mentions them! With that said it is much more than simply naive to dismiss anyone who marries the words Muslim and terrorists as racists bigots, it is intellectually dishonest! Most modern day terrorists are in fact Muslim. This is not opinion, it is fact. However, and as Oreilly states, that does not by any stretch of the imagination mean to imply that all Muslims are terrorists, anymore than saying that since the Christian Crusaders of the middle ages were terrorists (and they were) means that all Christians are terrorists. This entire debate, and its' escalation is founded in the liberal tendency to genuflect at the altar of Political Correctness. And to those wanna-be pseudo-intellectuals I say, get real, get a clue, get a life.
Posted by: shesalloverit | October 15, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse
Wasn't point of the mosque/cultural center/gym/swimming pool/ peace center to bring people together? Don't think it's working.
Posted by: ZHRR
It wasn't controversial at all last November when it was first announced. Then an Islamophobe used the right-wing blogosphere to make an issue of it, and thousands of weak-minded people followed her lead.
The only way to defeat bigotry is to refuse to give in to it.
Posted by: j3hess | October 15, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse
"The View" means you better have OUR VIEW ONLY or we will walk off the set!
Behar and Goldberg are total morons...
Muslims attacked America folks--"get over it"...
Posted by: charko825
Posted by: TheBestIsYetToCome | October 15, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse
You *Sir* are Dead On with ALL of Your Comments
Kudos for Speaking the TRUTH !!
*some people can't handle the truth*
Posted by: TheBestIsYetToCome | October 15, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse
Bill O'Reilly plainly stated that Muslims attacked us on 9-11. Bill O'reilly is FACTUALLY correct. Every single "EXTREMIST" on those aircraft identified themselves as MUSLIMs PERIOD. They were following the written tenents delineated in the HOLY KORAN (QURAN).
And why does the fact that they claimed to be Muslim matter?
Senior Muslim clerics have pronounced fatwah against terrorist actions. Are you more of an expert on the Koran than they? What are your credentials?
You're in fact a perfect example of why it is wrong of O'Reilly to put the claimed religion of the terrorists at the forefront: it distracts us from considering the real causes as it sets this up as a confrontation of civilized Christians versus barbaric Muslims. It's both stupid and counterproductive.
It is also unfair the the many American Muslims who suffer both from the stains brought on their faith by the terrorists and the attacks on their patriotism by the ignorant and fearful. My hometown has had Muslim residents for over 100 years and a mosque for nearly 80. Their sons fought and died for us in WWII and are now serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. Your ignorant attack demeans their faith and dishonors their service. For shame.
Posted by: j3hess | October 15, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse
Republicans Are The American Taliban
It's like an arsonist complaining that the socialist fire department isn't responding fast enough to the fires they are setting...
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse
Damn, Kinda Makes Me Wonder What THEY would have done to ~Sean Hannity ????
There is BAD, Evil and Corrupt All Over This World
Every Race, Ethnicity, Religion ETC
Not All Muslims are Terrorists, but the Ones that ARE
"WE AMERICANS Have No USE for Them, EVER"
Evil is Evil is Evil -- enuf said !!!!
Posted by: TheBestIsYetToCome | October 15, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse
It's just getting ridiculous – the GOP trying to lambast the President over an economic environment they created.
Get real repubs, the President and his administration are slowly, but surely, digging us out of the deep hole you pushed us into. Why should you get any credibility?
The nation's economy lost 95,000 jobs in September, but the private sector gained 64,000 jobs, according to the Labor Department report released Friday. The unemployment rate stood steady last month at 9.6 percent..
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse
American people I hate to break it to you, but 9.6 is going to be the norm becasue ALL THOSE JOBS THE REPUBLICANS SENT TO CHINA is not coming back. Everytime I call and 1-800 number, I get a foreigner and it makes me mad as hell. ALL of low and middle jobs have when to CHINA AND INDIA just call any 1-800 number and see how many American people answer those calls. We should be mad as hell about the Republicans sending all our jobs overseas and now trying to blame the President because the American people can not find a job. PLEASE AMERICAN PEOPLE put the blame where the blame needs to be which is the Republicans party who is responsbile for no jobs for the American people becasue CHINA AND INDA HAVE THEM ALL!
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse
The GOP act like spoiled kids.They're the ones who created the recession, and now they're screaming because someone else hasn't cleaned up their mess overnight?
80% of the job losses were government jobs.....isn't that what republicans want?
How can you slam something that you created over 8 years of de-regulation? Repulsive republican idiots all of them!
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse
Hey Republicans isn't this what your party have been screaming about firer the government workers and now that government jobs have been shedded your are screaming about job loses.
How hypocritical the Republicans are – they were the ones crying about too many Federal jobs and we need to cut them. Republicans you can not have it both ways. So shut the hell up, becasue we government workers know you don't give a damm about US!
Well... surprise, surprise! What else is going to happen when rethugs are sitting on a trillion $ in cash, but won't hire people? They are trying to turn everyone against the President, but it won't work. I guess they think everyone in America is a dumb "hicky" person.
What's this about McDonalds no longer offering healthcare to its workers??! Tell you what. I'll never buy another big mac! Let's see how that affects their bottom line...... And, I'll go one further. ANY company that tries to pull this crap is off my Christmas list.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse
This many jobs were lost even with the massive tax cut the republicans want to continue for the rich who they say need the cut so that they can create jobs. What does the hipocrit GOP have to say about how the tax cut os not creating jobs. If the rich aren't going to use their windfall to hire people then let the government have it so that they can hire people.
GOP. Stop grandstanding and present your plan to reverse a 30 year trend of losing manufacturing jobs overseas. And while you are at it, explain to the American public why you didi not advance any plans or strategy int last two years, other than voting no. America's voters are not as stupid as you are playing them.
The Repugnant obstructionists are full of whining and complaining, while they are sitting on their hands instead of contributing to the rebuilding of the country. In fact, they are getting just what they hoped and planned for: a very slow recovery. This was their stated plan when Obama took office, and they have stuck with it.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse
Will things change when and if they get back in power? For sure! Oh, they're not going to help the middle class, but things will get even better for the rich, who already own most everything in the country. They will line their own pockets some more, ship more jobs overseas, and pay for it by going further in debt and chiseling away the benefits we all have paid for, like Social Security and Medicare. By the time the Repugnants finish with the country, there won't be a middle class person left. America will be truly third-world.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse
Honestly, do they expect that this would have turned around so quickly after a major recession that the Republicans caused by lax regulations and enforcement of laws? A problem isn't cured in a day; large problems like this will take time. The good news is that the private sector created jobs which is what the Republicans fail to point out.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse
GOP slams Democrats? Mergers, aquitisions, shipping jobs oversees, foreign influence on US elections,(Thru US Chamber of Commerce). All these things that have and are having on US job loses are in FACT Republican 'trickle down' economics thru politics in full play. The GOP wants to make US exported products more 'competitive'. Sounds good until one realizes means a reduction or elimination of someones pay, somewhere down the line. In other words, increase that profit margin at all costs. Let's see, to be more competitive with China, that would mean, reduce the workers pay down to say 90 cents an hour? Well, who is stupid enough to work for that amount of money, will that pay the bills? Not everybody can be Doctors, Engineers, lawyers, etc. Those who are not so mentally well endowed and want to work and earn a living, what is the GOP planning to do for them? Let them starve and freeze to death? Most certainly, many of those folks will turn to crime in a feeble attempt to have some sort of living. How many job creating legislations has the GOP blocked over the past 20 months? All to ascertain, that the President will fail. Well, GOP-Tea Party, he DIDN'T fail. He succeeded in spite of your obstructionist efforts.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse
The GOP is the real enemy here. The biggest part of their plan has already been partially implemented (setting the atmosphere for their retake). If Americans were paying attention, you would know that already. Please wake up America. Anyone who has taken a class in Economics 1 or Economics 2 knows what it takes for our economy to rebound and how long it will take providing the right tools ARE IMPLEMENTED IN TIME. And if the right tools ARE NOT IMPLEMENTED IN TIME, you also know what will happen to an economy that is trying to recover, it won't! This is the reason the GOP has voted NO TO EVERY BILL that would have served as a RIGHT TOOL. Currently, there are several bills sitting in the senate that would have served as a RIGHT TOOL and would have prevented a lot of jobs from being lost However, the GOP senators have, once again, placed a blocked to prevent the votes that would have passed the final passage of these bills, and from the looks of the economy as we speak, the bill would have also prevented the additional layoffs that have occurred lately which is exactly what the GOP wants. It is not only the responsibility of the Democratic Party to care about the American citizens/taxpayers who are unemployed and can't find work; it is also the responsibility of the GOP Party as well. The GOP should not include politics into serious events that can help those of us who are suffering.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse
You Repugs,the ones that gave jobs overseas for tax breaks,Union busters, every other economic diseaster made by you.You have the stupidity to spew your crap when you have nothing to come to the table with but a lot of hot air.Palin & Steele are nothing more than political wannabes in this show down.You think you can turn this around,the mess you started than ran from, this economic hell hole you dug. Maybe your Rick Scott,Meg Whitmans can buy their seats in this mess,maybe HA,they can fix what their associates continue to derail.Why don't they put their EGOS aside and try working just once for the good of the AMERICAN PEOPLE,instead of the party of No. Repugs you have nada to offer,saying NO for years doesn't qualify you for another term,remember that kids,NO free passes!
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse
So, why then, if jobs are the number one concern for the GOP did they vote in September 2010 to block a bill which would help bring outsourced jobs back to America? And, why are the GOP using this particular bill as a aid to get campaign dollars from the American corporations who have outsourced American jobs to foreign countries and who are continuing to do their best the keep these outsourced jobs OUT of America? Remind me again, GOPers, what your party would do to bring jobs back to America should they gain the majority?
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse
In May 2009, abortion doctor George Tiller was gunned down in his church by an anti-abortion terrorist after being demonized for years by Fox's Bill O'Reilly as "Tiller the Baby Killer." O'Reilly had compared Tiller to the Nazis and to Al-Qaeda. He said that Tiller had "blood on his hands" and that he wouldn't want to be Tiller "if there is a Judgement Day."[9]
There's a very real danger of political violence from the far-right — and Fox News fans the flames every day. It's no longer a hypothetical question whether the conspiracy theories, bigotry, violent rhetoric on Fox can lead to real-world violence. It's already happened. Thankfully, police were able to stop Byron Williams before he committed a massacre. But we might not be so lucky with the next killer inspired by Glenn Beck and Fox News.
We can't allow Fox News to stoke the kind of fear, division and hatred that leads to violence. It's time to ask our friends, our neighbors, and our communities to turn off Fox. Please join me:
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse
The Tea Party movement is grounded in fear. That fear in turn is based on a combination of fact and myth. The fact is the substantial increase in debt necessitated by the financial collapse in 2008. A majority of economists agree that government spending was critical to minimizing its impact. Indeed, many economists continue to argue that government should be spending a great deal more to rebuild the economy. This is a classic policy debate.
The myths behind the movement are largely the product of forces seeking to use fear as a campaign tool. That is the reason that much of the financing has come from various organizations funded by wealthy Republican conservatives. The myths include the rumors regarding the President's origins and religion, the claims of creeping socialism and even communism, the false assertions about "death panels," "relocation camps" and the elimination of private gun ownership, and a great deal of nonsense about how the tax burden is shared in this country.
With all of the misinformation coming at them from all directions, it is hardly surprising that Tea Party participants have difficulty articulating their fears. For the same reason it is not surprising that the movement itself is frequently incoherent and internally inconsistent.
Does racism pay a role in all of this? You bet it does. Appeals to racism were rampant during the presidential election campaign. The Tea Party train left the station almost before the last inaugural bleacher had been disassembled. The combination of fear of change, economic insecurity, racism and rather vicious lies creates a mob mentality, short on ideas but big on histrionics. But sound and fury is not a policy.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse
In my opinion, it was to inch our way to single payer health care. (ie socialized medicine)." Sounds good to me.
Of course the bill is flawed. They had to water it down to try to appease Republicans and conservative Democrats who do not want any reform at all.
And yes, I noticed the last election. Unfortunate that it took eight years for some (by no means all) Republicans to realize how much their party had damaged the nation. Of course, far from repudiating Bush, you also had Republicans who did not vote because they thought McCain too moderate, somehow, and I am guessing that many of those people are in the Pee Party movement as well. At any rate, it is amusing to see some on the right repudiate Bush now that he is gone. Yet they elected and re-elected him. The "passion" to get rid of Bush sure wasn't there when he was scaring these idiots with the terrorism and gay marriage boogie men. The passion was only there after Bush had already wrecked the country. Great, thanks for finally waking up, now that it is too late.
I do not know or care about your own personal history in this regard, but this is surely true of the majority of these Tea Bagger clowns.
As for "socialized medicine," I sure hope that you have never attended a public school or visited a public library or a public post office or called a fire or police department. "Get your government hands of my medicare, Commie."
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse
We also think it's worthwhile to examine the link between over-the-top extreme rhetoric and the actions that it may inspire - for example, the 'OMG Obama is going to take away your guns any minute!!!!!' rhetoric coming from people like Glenn Beck, and a recent incident of gun violence from a man who was apparently upset about Obama's gun control policies. That's not to say that anyone holding an offensive protest sign is potentially violent or inciting violence, but it's not meaningless either or something that's not worth discussing
Republicans contradict themselves allot. One minute the entire war was about "Spreading Democracy to the Middle-East" and the next minute, anyone not born inside the political boarders of the United States doesn't deserve Justice.
I can't stand to watch Fox News because they don't let their goddamn guests TALK. They interrupt them, they cut their microphones, they talk over them like this.
That's not journalism. It's not even entertainment. It's just obnoxious.
That woman can say it's not about Republicans and Democrats all she wants, but the reality is the Tea Party didn't exist when Bush (not Obama, this was well before Obama was even running for office) spent our country into oblivion.
If the Tea Party was truly bi-partisan, then they'd be all over their leader, Ron Paul who speaks for term limits yet has been in congress for over 20 years.
t's like this: Go to the store to buy a gallon of milk that costs $3.00. You have a coupon for 75 cents off. So you only have to pay $2.25 that week for milk. When the coupon expires the price of milk did not go up. The coupon just expired. It's not rocket science.
Message to Tea Baggers: Even Fox News says the vast majority of you won't see a tax increase. So start crying about something that actually effects you, moron
Bravo to the people at Fox. Its truly impressive how they are able to warp the minds of humans on such a massive scale into believing their insane bullshit.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse
did they not walk because of THEIR intolerance.
Seem you are intolerant of views that you find intolerable.
you're a bigot too.... we all are.
Posted by: docwhocuts
Yes, but is toleration of intolerance really tolerance?
I think not - it is instead surrender.
They Who Walked did not have O'Reilly lynched nor cut him off or have the guards escort him off the set. They demonstrated their personal views - its really just free speech. Do you have a problem with that?
Posted by: j3hess | October 15, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse
So your point is that if Glenn Beck or Fox News weren't such screw ups then they would have lied to their viewers (at least by omission) about the ties of one of their shareholders (5-7%) to radical islam? And that somehow the fact that they DID report it proves that their shareholders are censoring or controlling the flow of information on their network? And that this equates to proof that Glenn Beck is a terrorist? Where's Ashton Kutcher?
Bush had 47 Czars! These whackos don't want government spending, yet when they see their local library or school has closed they freak out. Paul wrote in Romans that people are not supposed to go against their governement unless their government are not allowing them to worship the God that the country was formed on. Listening to Beck, Bush, Palin telling you to go geat your guns and rise up is completely against what the bible speaks about.
"Tea Party" is a Big Lie. It's not the simple 1700s. We now have millions of life-saving water-food-air-safety, police, military, etc. provided by "big government" (We The People). During the real Tea Party there were no freeways, bridges nor school that allowed real-tax-paying patriots to work & contribute to the superior progress this nation has. I've never whined about paying taxes as without regulations many of us wouldn't be here. Due to Cheney's deregulations the Gulf is an oil pool.'
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse
I went through the Vietnam War, and I never saw anybody being spit on. I also worked at airports and talked to many returning soldiers. As I recall, we were glad to see them return safely (those who did return safely, that is). Newt Gingrich never showed up for anything, but he's sure quick to jump on the right wing bandwagon -- or any other bandwagon that comes along.
Fox NEWS hasn't brought up Palin's Bridge to NOWHERE that she was For before she was against it.
Fox hasn't played Soundbites of Palins Pastor like they did Rev Wright (Wright served our Country during Vietnam and didn't get drafted he volunteered)
Fox hasn't called Palin on the Private Jet of the State that wasn't sold on EBay and she didn't make at Profit off of it.
Fox is a RightWing Network. There are Videos all over Youtube showing their UnFair and UnBalanced they really are
Anyone that is considering voting Tea Party should first get a searing hot wrought iron poker and sodomize themselves for a good thirty minutes with it, because that pain is a representative 1% of what pain the Tea Party will inflict on them and the rest of this country.
Meanwhile the Mother of All Entitlement Programs, the Military Industrial Complex, which has trillion dollar budgets and massive rorting of the system, you rightwingers love it.
Tea party= A gang of hypocrites and parasites. See if its us getting help its UnAmerican but they deserve it,Its their America!! their money. We are just cannon fodder.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse
republiCANT'S need to take their guns and kill themselves!!! Their OLD, OUTDATED, HYPOCRITE, ideology IS GARBAGE and NOT NEEDED IN A PROGRESSIVE SOCIETY!!
Do as I say not as I do! That's what this is about. What their saying is the right thing to do, despite being bad examples, don't kill the messenger. Cent, all you do is point the finger with out getting to the real solutions. Half of what you say always seems to agree with me but I still can't escape the other half of me that always wants to beat for f@#$cking face in.
Anchorage (Alaska) Daily News - Miller says shut down government if necessary and yet Miller defends family's past reliance on Medicaid, KidCare Alaska U.S. Senate candidate Joe Miller acknowledged Thursday that his family has received assistance from federal Medicaid and Denali KidCare, Alaska's low-income health program. His opponents responded that he's a hypocrite for now saying federal entitlement programs are unconstitutional. Records show Miller overdue on property tax, fees
Karl Rove is currently spinning main media propaganda to get more of his cronies in office.He has access to unlimited global corporate $.Obama,Bush,Clinton,Bush Sr., Regan, etc., are a global corp. govt..We the people are victims of their divide & conquer scheme. Black box voting pushed by elitists has also contributed to current disaster. Geoengineerg, so called global warming, weather modification to cause droughts&floods,cap&trade, disaster health care, measures of austerity, war&militarism!
on 9/12/2001 democrats backed & stood with GWBush,,,,, on 9/12/2009 how many republicans back & stand with BHObama? IF your a patriot , stand by the prez of the USA ,............ i know all you right wingers will have some sorta fox new response,,, but really didnt you republican trash all over soros & others who called gwbush a nazi ? YET somehow its ok when your side does it?
I think their hopes and dreams of a movement began getting crushed when Scott Brown turned on them just two days after being elected, and when they got Rand Paul in and now he's supporting big corporations....too funny. Anyone who worships Beck, Palin and Limbaugh as leaders has got issues.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse
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You know, spam is not really useful.
I saw your list of post after post after scarcely relevant post and decided to ignore them all.
Knock it off, please?
Posted by: j3hess | October 15, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse
@Ballston 54. Timothy McVeigh was an atheist.
The 9999.9% of terrorism is muslim extremist,why does everyone have to sugar coat it. Bill O'Reilly put those hags out to pasture. That show is a joke everyone on there is liberal. Hassleback pretends to be a conservative but is not.
Posted by: jdonahue1 | October 15, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse
@robby94605 Seek help you are really an angry person with nothing to back your points up with. Keep drinking the kool-aid and singing kumbyah. Remember November 2nd is going to really anger you it is going to be a landslide! Go Bill O.
Posted by: jdonahue1 | October 15, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse
Posted by: robby94605
You know, spam is not really useful.
I saw your list of post after post after scarcely relevant post and decided to ignore them all.
Knock it off, please?
Posted by: j3hess | October 15, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse
The 9999.9% of terrorism is muslim extremist,why does everyone have to sugar coat it. Bill O'Reilly put those hags out to pasture.
Posted by: jdonahue1
Hags. Such elegant language. Sexism on display?
There's a lot of terrorism going on in Mexico, in Columbia, in central Africa, from people who are not Muslims.
The struggle in Chechnya may involve Muslims, but the cause is self-determination, not religion. What cause does it serve to worry about their religion?
What is true is the 99.999% of the world's Muslims have nothing to do with terrorism.
Making a point that the terrorists claimed to be Muslim serves no purpose except to smear the faith of other Muslims, including patriotic American citizens, raise fear, and incite bigotry.
Posted by: j3hess | October 15, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse
Ha! Ha! Goldberg and Behar walked out of a segment interview with Bill O'Reilly, then returned to the set unappologetic and silent. Very insightful indeed.
Posted by: readerreader1 | October 15, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse
Hypocrisy is when someone acts in the manner they're condemning. Unless he took these benefits WHILE espousing the belief that they shouldn't exist, he's not a hypocrite.
Hey guys, guess what this reminds us about
Oh yeah it reminds us about those anti-gays
who preach about how sinful gays are then get caught
having gay sex,
Ted Haggard, Eddie Long, George Rekers the rentboy guy.
Ken Mehlman the anti-gay policy maker for G. Bush.
I could go for an hour naming them all.
But the hypocrisy takes it pattern
and now the dumbest should figure it out.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse
The Tea Party Movement is only revolutionary on paper. Meanwhile, their candidates just bring up the usual right-wing talking points, but don't really add to it, nor do they necessarily practice what they preach. And while this may have existed in many aspects of politics for many years, it's interesting to see people claim to be "revolutionary" and only wind up regressing back to what was originally making this country fall apart in the first place.
He thinks the $7.25 minimum wage is too generous? Wants to eliminate Social Security?
Does he also support witches and witchcraft or he just another GOP Mormon?
the fact that people take these tea party candidates seriously shows me that America is going in the wrong direction!
He wants to say he is a man of principles. A man of principles would refuse those farm subsidies for the exact reason that everybody takes them.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse
THE FAR RIGHT WINGED GOP TEA BAG REPUBLICANS ARE: HYPRICATES!!!! also they are: (A CULTURE OF CORRUPTION)
A list of republican felons from: 1998-2008
The GOP flat out lies to the American people by claiming that tax cuts somehow will magically result in a lowering of the deficit and a sad number of people want desperately to believe that lie. It is what George H.W. Bush called Voodoo Economics and that assessment has not changed.
Then they put forth the lie that the Democrats want to let all of the tax cuts expire, when the truth is they only want them to expire on the already rich. The GOP knows that can't just go in front of the American people and complain about the suffering of the rich as a campaign platform, so they resort to just plain lying about it. Times are already so hard that I, for one, can not bring myself to feel sorry for the upper 2% of wage earners at the expense of the rest of us. Screw 'em.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse
Conservatives are ten more dangerous than a crack dealer on the street.These so called christian conservatives are the biggest hypocrites,selfish,greedy scumbags that walk this earth.One other thing that pisses me off about these slimebags is they always believe they are right even when they constantly f*uck up,and never take the blame when they do screw up.
I know that republicans are addicted to lying, and as professional criminals, they always stick together. I just can't understand why their followers don't seem to care. I have to believe that this republican house of cards will soon fall from the weight of its own blatant lies and corruption. Republicans are no better than Mafiosa, they're nothing but criminals.
This is very important, that's exactly the problem with the GOP, they are not interested in black voters because they need them to strike fear in white Americans.
We have all seen even in the Catholic Church if a Republican goes to church he is most likely a Catholic. Now, we have also seen various Catholic Popes put in power after death of sickness of previous Popes. To prove Republicans are racist bigots, even in their CATHOLIC CHURCH .. we have yet to see a black POPE or SPANISH POPE. Always a Anglo-Saxon / White Skin Pope. So, if this thing isn't about race... Republicans done crappy ass job trying to disprove your Republican party is NOT RACIST!
That's another terrible thing about you righties; you rely more on insults than facts.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse
Im constanly scratching my head because people still vote for them. Where I live the church told people that the Democratics was at fault for not extending unemployment. I was like WTF. Does not suprise me most churchs are cults that hope people don't watch tv so they can lie for there racist agendas!
Ya, I like the part that says something like they worship God and Corporations. What don't they just come right out and say it. They worship greed, could give a flying rat's ass about those less fortunate. Doesn't it say something in the Bible about caring for the sick and indigent? I don't understand why at least one Church full of Republican get hit by lightening every Sunday
Down with republicans... they stand for what is wrong with America... or maybe acirema? Backwards... that's what republicans are.
Strange you should say that. Seems that the Republicans started pushing Michael Steele since Pres.Obama was voted as President. Seems that the Republicans don't have a black face to prove they are NOT racist. Even the Catholic church should have had a black Pope by now.
Wow. I'm amazed at how completely misinformed our society has become. Keep drinking the kool aid kids!
Even in your world of KKK and Nazi parties considered as white hate groups, those CEO's and corporate execs(in secret societies) still consider white hate groups as scum and don't mind letting them die while they move to their secure bunkers
to prove my point again. In court situations, I've seen White cops that were Republicans do most of the violent acts against American Citizens when in uniform. Why haven't I seen Black cops do the same things white cops do to black people when in uniform? Then when we do background on White cops, we often see they are acting in accord to their captain and most white cops are registered Republican. Republicans do not welcome any outside race except Anglo-Saxon / Caucasians. (period)
Republicans want to help those that don't need help.
Giving rich ppl money doesn't create jobs...
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse
Give $ to low&mid income families,& they'll spend it at the rich man's company, Then he'll hav2 hire...includng you.
The modern Republican party.
1.) Hate the government and U.S. taxpayers.
2.) Steal from the government and the U.S. taxpayers.
3.) Lie about stealing from the government and the U.S. taxpayers.
4.) Pay no taxes to the government.
5.) Use your stolen money to lie your way into office.
6.) Use your office to completely rig the game for your own greedy purposes.
7.) Preach as often as possible about the evils of government.
A politician is a person who will lay down YOUR life for HIS country"
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse
When you start believing your own lies, as repetition will do to the human psyche, you become not only a danger to yourself, but also to your fellow citizens.
A Democrat leader(Bill Clinton) may have had his own personal problems but I fail to see how that effected the country unlike some Republican learders(more then one) who started there own crusades. Nine years later and we're now just started going after Al Qaeda the people who blew up the World Trade towers.
except Obama didn't need a teleprompter when he smashed mccain at the presidential debates. Obama also didn't need a teleprompter when he obliterated joe the plumber in front of the crowd. and remember joe the plumber is 10x more articulate than bush
The democrats in the 1700 and 1880`s were rascist. but modern day Democrats support civil rights much more than Republicans.
GOP = Greedy Old Pricks
they oppossed giving women and minorities the vote. which goes some way to explaining why women of all ages and the bulk of minorities are more likely to be liberal.
It may be true that Democrats are racist too. But, they don't run those secret societies like Bilderberg, Skull and Bones, Scroll and Keys, etc. Democrats don't hide their agenda in some secret organization. If you are republican and caucasian are you invited to their Bilderberg or Skull and bones meetings?
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse
GOWMP = Greedy old white male pricks
Question for conservatives, why is it that there is no such thing as a racist liberal, because there isn't and if you can find me a legit one I'll admit I'm wrong but one problem for you, I'm not
When I think about it, what race or nationality has not been pissed of or discriminated by Republicans? Native Amer. Indians? , Jews?, Blacks?, Latino? When I really think... and think hard, I can't say there is a nationality that is ethnic that has ever been supported by Rethuglicans. Hope Latinos never team up with Black or Chinese or Arab Americans. What race as the white republicans NOT screwed over?
A republican in power knows he is racist and will challenge you to prove it because he knows it takes time and money.
here is the reality the REPUBLICANS does not care about budget deficit if not it would cut the military budget in half. where was the tea party trying to stop the government from really talking your rights when congress pass the Patriot act.
If you are a Republican, it means you only care about the rich and not the middle and lower class; that is what a republican is
Don't be fooled by this right wing, corporate funded movement.
""all ethnic groups stand together"
That's the Democratic Party. It's been that way for a long time and I've been a proud member of this diverse coalition, along with the majority of American Blacks and Latinos for over 30 years.
Our party gave America, Civil Rights, The FDA, the FDIC, labor laws, fair taxation, Social Security etc.
Conservatives have always fought against these basic American rights!
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse
Do you see how these Tea Baggers are 95% white claiming that they want their country back. Are these tea party members being sprayed with firehoses by the police, attacked by police dogs, denied housing, jobs and equal rights because of the color of their skin. We Americans lose our job and want to blame someone
Do you understand that the political/economical environment in the 60's and even through the 70's differed from the political/economical environment today. If you were a minority, then you didn't have the rights of the average white person. You shouldn't reference the Black Panther Party until you actually read or researched them first. What you and most people fail to understand about the Black Panthers is that the Black Panthers stood for preventing African American abuse by the police, providing self defense and teaching black history to African Americans because it was not taught in school.
Where were these stupid, classless clowns when Bush was racking up the national debt? Why didn't they care when we invaded Iraq? The Republicans answer to everything- cut taxes for the richest and education for the masses. GWB, Dick Chaney, Rush, Bil O'Reilly, Chamblis, Pat Buchanan all deferred and avoided NAM. You need these bilnd morons to sacrifice their flesh so the republican elites don't have to.
The only thing that is "worthless" is the laughable farce that the Tea-Maggots are focused on the "ideals of limited government."
Suckers like yourself are simply tools of big corporations. The "limited government" propaganda is mere code words that REALLY mean "don't regulate corporations, let them pollute the environment, ship jobs overseas, mistreat their workers, discriminate against minorities, and let poor people starve."
Pry your lips off of corporate America's ass.
Notice How Tea-Maggots try to justify their OWN racism by talking about the SOUTHERN Democrats of 50 years ago (while conveniently forgetting the NORTHERN Democrats like John, Robert & Ted Kennedy, etc. Or even the SOUTHERN Democrat Pres—LBJ— who pushed through Civil Rights Legislation).
Tea-Maggot selective memory forgets that all those Southerners who were Democratic racists switched parties and they are now Southern Republican Racists. Just thought I'd point that out.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse
FACTS: If tax cut for the rich works, we wouldn't be in this mess.
What Democrats need to do is to tell:
1. Our progressive tax laws believe in "people who are able should pay more" to share the burden of our nation's finances.
2. We tax the rich more based on that belief.
3. Bush's tax cut benefited Bill Gates million$ while benefited Bubba nothing.
4. Bush's tax cut effectively takes money from our treasury (based on rule 1 above) to pay the rich.
Democrats need to explain that in a way the idiots can understand.
The TRUTH is the Republicans are doing a GREAT job misleading Americans, and the ones that get misled are mostly idiots, who don't even know they are the victims of a con game.
Democrats' worst sin is they are ineffective in revealing the con scam until the party is over and the crowd has gone home.
When Republicans promoted tax cuts, they misled Bubbas who didn't even make enough money to pay taxes to think it's a good thing. Democrats are just to dumbfounded to explain away the trick.
Tea Party is about preserving White privilege . I dont care how many house negroes they get in front of the camera . Where were these patriotic Tea Baggers when blacks were being oppressed in the ghetto? When Rodney King got beat? When Sean Bell got shot?If they really wanted to do the right thing they'd give the Native Americans back land
I think I'll state what I thought was the obvious.... The Democratic Party that existed in its early years is NOT the same as the one that exists today. The same goes for the Republican party.... The parties change over time and stand for different things ._.; I honestly hate the republican party as it is today. :/ They were fine before.. when i wasn't even alive... but now.. yeah :/
, the KKK always votes Republican.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse
THE GOP have zero sympathy for people who have fallen on hard times.
They blame the unemployed for being undereducated?
They criticize the "welfare & entitlement mentality" that makes people blame the government instead of themselves for the fact that they've been laid off or canned.
How in America are some programmed to be Angry because President Obama ended the Recession and has GAINED Private Sector Jobs every single month for the past Year - After Bush was LOSING 750,000 jobs per Month for 18 months!??
The GOP plan is to make the President fail at all cost, so they can regain power
Why does President Obama always give 'common sense' addresses, and then the repubs always come back with some whacko remarks.
The repubs will dig up some nut job nobody ever heard of to lie to america.
'Republicans lie and the middle class dies'!!
'Republicans lie and the middle class dies'!!
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse
Imagine you're working on your front yard. A car speeds down your street, out of control and careens into you. The paramedics arrive to administer emergency care. Should their first question be "are you a US citizen?"
Excluding ANYONE from coverage is just stupid.
The "conservative" movement in this country is, by and large, a radical element. They are not "christian" except in name only. The proof IS in this healthcare debate, where their true colors are coming out. Greed, hatred, xenophobia, selfishness, petulance, and cognitive dissonance are their foundation.
Most of the people who call themselves Christians actually hate the poor, whom Jesus loved. Glad your friends are doing ok.
Government is the only 'public" corporation powerful enough to take on the private ones. Private interests have tried to infiltrate our government and destroy it from the inside (like when bush put industry in charge of overseeing itself, or Obama put wall street insiders in charge of overseeing finance reform)-the government is not the problem- the people running it are). Unfortunately the tea party misses the point-and is replacing anyone they can with corporatists and/or crackpots-bad idea
Conservatives believe in liberating the individual, liberating them from all government protection so they can be raped by powerful corporations.
Republican Party = White Christian Privilege Party
Republican Party = White Christian Privilege Party
Republican Party = White Christian Privilege Party
Republican Party = White Christian Privilege Party
Republican Party = White Christian Privilege Party
republicans use to be more about good economics
and limited government, now i dont say all of them,
but their leaders, are hatefull, lets look at their track record
accused Obama of not being american, accused obama of being muslim,
accused all muslims for being terrorist,
You know what, you can say, I dont agree with Obama on his politics
you can say you hate his politics.
but accusing him of being not american, and a muslim
that makes republicans look bad.
Some of you, but you are one in a few, most of politics right now are just thinking on how to go razist in every way. Just take a look at Arizona. Even some celebrities for example Mel Gibson are razist, haters of others cultures. Politics right now are just thinking on how to harm people different from them.
Who took the surplus left to us by the Clinton administration and turned it back into debt? It wasn't Democrats. The only bracket that gets lower taxes is the rich, in some horrible misguided belief that even though over 20 years have proven otherwise, the "trickle down" theory DID NOT WORK.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse
I can tell you republicans are hated by all Americas best friends such as Canada, England, Australia and so on.
People travling abroad were embaresed to say they were Americans during Bush years.
The President is correct. Most Americans don't realize that we are in the middle of a revolution right now. On one side are We the People and on the other side are corporations who are fighting hard to retain their control over us. They have replaced our democratic republic with a plutocracy. We now have a President who is fighting for We the People and corporate interests are not happy about that. They are attempting to divide and conquer We the People. The question is.....how many of us stand with a President trying to save this country and how many of us stand with the old, familiar plutocracy that began under Reagan.
We have the old argument that the wealthy worked hard for their fabulous fortunes, but truth be told, most of it was handed down to them from the people that did work hard for it, or they were set up in life by friends or relatives that were also given their wealth. It's a who you know issue, not a what you have done to deserve it. Some of these people have money than they could ever spend in many lifetimes and they balk at contributing their fair share to the society that made them ridiculously wealthy. Greed and entitlement and no concern for anyone outside their little world.
Grow up folks....there is no such thing as a liberal controlled media....face the facts....the republican way of thinking doesnt work......period!!!!!
because if they had all the answers, the economy wouldnt be in the dumper.....remember the $400 Bush gave us when he FINALLY admitted their was a recession????? thats going to be about what your republican tax break is going to be......and how well did that work??????? Of course, the rich will get about $15,000......what is $15000 to a millionaire???? Chump change.......if the republicans get elected in November...invest heavily in oil and caviar.......they are going to be the only ones to make out.
I was ready to make a change i was going to vote republikkans but after hearingthat they have the same agenda and that they will be doing more of the same , the hell with it ,, they can keep thier pledge and shov it up where the sin dont shine , they are just plain and stupid liars shame on them no honor no dignity , no huevos
they are a disgrace//bigots//////class warfare/////welfare for corporations and not people///they were in power while bush in office and the country fell apart///lied up war and wall street doing what ever they wanted//yes we really need this scum of has beens like gingrich//romney the cult mormon and idiot palin
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse
Through out history in this country every so many years the average American tries to take the country back and give it to the people where it belongs, only to have the champions assassinated,
or some conspiracy by the masters of conspiring (Nero Cons ) and now the tea party, then progress halted, or stalled for another 40 to 50 years. Well not this time do to the fact that the perpetrators moderate base has finally seen the light, and recognises that this Archaic conservative agenda was a cyclone spinning and only a matter of time before it spun out off control.
Just as and will the tea parties cyclone spin.
Hence our appearance to others in the world, not good.
Hence our Economic situation here at home, not good .
And all the praises and Glory goes to no other than the whacked out NeroCon Himself.
What will He say On His death Bed Vote for Ronny Reagan,
What will the tea baggers say when one of their retards commits an act as hyanis as Timothy Mc Vweigh or worst? Vote for Ron Paul, Vote for Sarah Palin or will he say when he take his last breath " What An Artist the world has lost "' Not, and we won't miss the Nero Con just as the world didn't miss the one who made the quote.
Ronnies been gone and so is their vision because they never mastered what only one could have and that was the one whom embodied it, and these cluster fukks do not fit the mold.
Ronny just about pulled it off and only because the times allowed it, and these are different times, and we will not go back.
We don't want any more of what the GOP suggest we need, and we dam shore don't want, or need
RAy -Gun nomics or the trickle down theory again.
We won't have it, stand for it and are not going to sanction it.
President Obama, just plain presidential.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse
It's a real shame that Behar and Goldberg didn't keep walking until they were about 30feet deep in the East River. They do not have two brain cells between the two of them.
Posted by: coakley588 | October 15, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse
It's rather ironic that a religion which so publicly proclaims Absolute Love as its basis should, over the course of history, spawn so much unmitigated hatred and violence.
Is Christianity only a religion of Peace and Love? I do not think that anyone can honestly and objectively examine American or European history and answer "yes" to that question. Christianity can encourage Peace and Love - but it certainly need not, and it quite often has done just the opposite. Although the people responsible for violence might have found a way to express their hatred without Christianity, it cannot be ignored that Christianity offers a convenient divine mandate for hatred and violent acts against a wide range of people.
Violent inclinations in Christianity are apparent right from the beginning. Jesus is traditionally portrayed as a kind and loving teacher, such that even non-Christians often have an idealized image of him. However, not all of what he reportedly said or did fits within such a characterization - and some of what he did certainly doesn't reflect the better teachings he is supposed to have promoted. For example, he was quite explicit in his condemnation of those who would not follow his teachings, saying to his disciples: "And if any one will not receive you in your words, shake off the dust from your feet as you leave that house or town. Truly, I say unto you, it shall be more tolerable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah than for that town." (Matt. 10:14-15).
If Jesus and God have so little regard for nonbelievers, why should any of their followers? If Jesus can relegate nonbelievers to an eternity of torment, why should they expect higher standards from his followers here? In fact, nonbelievers did not fare any better after Christianity gained official support from the Roman Empire. Despite having been on the receiving end of persecution for many years, Christians refused to take any moral high ground and quickly proceeded to treat pagans with as much contempt and violence as they previously experienced.
Despite the fact that forgiveness is supposed to be a central aspect of Christian theology, Jesus was clear that not everyone could be forgiven: "...whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness and is guilty of an eternal sin." (Mark 3:29) If someone considers another person to have committed such an act, they would not need to take their feelings very far into account - after all, if Jesus will not forgive that person, why should anyone else? As we will see, Christians certainly did not act in a forgiving manner to the pagans whom they had in their control.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse
Murder in the Bible
The act of murder is rampant in the Bible. In much of the Bible, especially the Old Testament, there are laws that command that people be killed for absurd reasons such as working on the Sabbath, being gay, cursing your parents, or not being a virgin on your wedding night. In addition to these crazy and immoral laws, there are plenty of examples of God's irrationality by his direct killing of many people for reasons that defy any rational explanation such as killing children who make fun of bald people, and the killing of a man who tried to keep the ark of God from falling during transport. There are also countless examples of mass murders commanded by God, including the murder of women, infants, and children.
The following passages are a very small percentage of the total passages approving of murder in the Bible. They are divided here into three parts: 1) Capital Punishment Crimes, 2) God's Murders for Stupid Reasons, 3) Murdering Children, and 4) Miscellaneous Murders. This list is long, but it barely scratches the surface of all the murders approved of in the Bible.
Posted by: robby94605 | October 15, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse
Show me the religion that has no blood on its hands.
Terrorism belongs to no particular religion - it belongs to zealots of any religion or creed.
In fact, we have no positive identification of the 9/11 terrorists - only claims of the Bush Administration. (who never steered us wrong on anything, right??)
THINK: if they claim to have identified the 9/11 terrorists, then why does the US government continue to invade privacy, to search without warrants, to eavesdrop anywhere, anytime. . . to increase police surveillance to unprecedented levels?
Posted by: da_design | October 15, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse
All this, over political correctness. Our First Amendment trumps "political correctness". Muslims were piloting those aircraft that killed more than 3000, mostly U.S. citizens, therefore Muslims are responsible for 9/11. My First Amendment rights gives me the freedom to say that even it it isn't politically correct. O'Reilly was wrong to apologize.
Posted by: kpburd | October 16, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse
It was the killers who brought religion into this - did they not do this in the name of allah? Weren't we attacked due to the thought that we are a Christian nation. I would take those tow walking off stage as a badge of honor.
Posted by: newtin12 | October 16, 2010 3:49 AM | Report abuse
i agree with 0'reilly. a mosque should not be built near ground zero, a different location should be found. i am not vs. the building of a mosque.
i do agree with the liberal panel that extremists are responsible for 9/11.
do i hear moderate muslims denouncing them?????
whoopie called o'reilly a pigface.
she should look in the mirror and she'll see a big fat pig!
Posted by: witchdoctor29 | October 16, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse
It's bad enough that they ganged up on their sole guest, but Goldberg and Behar acted like children when they stormed off the set. How do people like this land a hosting gig on a major network? They should take a lesson from John Stewart. When he recently hosted O'Reilly on the Daily Show, the interview was civil, respectful, and even funny, despite the fact that the two disagree about a great many things.
Posted by: IndieOne | October 16, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse
Bill O'Reilly serves the militant imperial apparatus in this country. The so-called military-industrial complex will benefit from whatever he says, every time.
In this particular case, the Apparatus wants Americans to fear and hate Muslims so that they can justify starting wars with Muslim nations...even though they had nothing to do with 9/11.
O'Reilly is just selling the fear and hate that they pay him to peddle. Never mind Saudis attacked us, he just wants generic, general anti-Muslim sentiment so the U.S. can then say, "Iran", and the public will jump at the opportunity to bomb it.
They were right to stop him from pushing this untrue militant agenda on their show. Good for them.
Timothy McVeigh was a Christian, not a Muslim. The guy who flew his plane into an IRS building was a Christian, not a Muslim. The FBI agents who admitted in federal court that they had given the "terrorists" the bomb for the WTC in 1993 were Christians, not Muslims.
Perhaps we should blindly fear and hate white Christians, and start accepting the bombing of their nations as a necessity for peace?
Posted by: zenphoenix42 | October 16, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse
Liberal's are addicted to admiring their white hats in the mirror. This often requires distorting reality to maintain their purple dinosaur view of the world. There are certainly many peaceful Muslims. But Isalm itself is rotten to the core with teachings of intolerance and violence. Ask the millions of victims of female genital mutilation. Fools like Goldberg and Behar insist on ignoring the ugly truth about Islam to maintain their liberal vanity. It's pathetic.
Posted by: flatpik | October 18, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse
Those two needs to ...Woman up
Posted by: corebanks1940 | October 21, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse
The problem with the liberal left is that they have no absolutes in their life. Everything is gray and not black and white. If a Muslim attacked us on 9/11 and they did, then Bill has a right to say "The Muslims attacked us." It wasn't Jews, Catholics or Cowboys, it was Muslims! So don't try to drag another issue into your GRAY world and make others follow your wandering ways. GREAT JOB BILL!
Then you must be OK with the statement:
"Christians blew up the Oklahoma Federal Building".
Posted by: lgaide | October 21, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse
For all those who keeps bringing up Timothy McVeigh - yes it was "a christian" who bombed the building in Oklahoma, not "christians". But the fact remains the entire group of terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 and other occasions were all of Islamic faith and they infact admitted that they're doing it intentionally under their Islamic religious beleives. All of those hatred feelings and the plot to kill innocent people were indeed taught and conceived in the Islamic mosques across the world.
What's so wrong in calling it as it is?
Posted by: CJ123 | October 21, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse
republican3 wrote:
The problem with the liberal left is that they have no absolutes in their life. Everything is gray and not black and white. If a Muslim attacked us on 9/11 and they did, then Bill has a right to say "The Muslims attacked us." It wasn't Jews, Catholics or Cowboys, it was Muslims!
Yes, and the Christians attacked us in Oklahoma City. It wasn't the Jews, Catholics, Cowboys, or Muslims---it was the Christians who attacked us in Oklahoma City.
Posted by: georgereston | October 21, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse
Benladen killed 3000 innocent american civilians. Bush killed 2 million iraqi civilians.
Who is the bigger terrorist?
Posted by: MumboJumboo | October 21, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse
McVeigh and the others involved were (are) Christians. Their violence was nurtured by the culture of the extreme religious right which, by the way, also encourages the killing of physicians. Religious extremists of all stripes are exceedingly dangerous.
Posted by: georgereston | October 21, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse
But perhaps we should not accept their self-definitions.
This says it all! Even when they say exactly who and what they stand for, perhaps we should just disregard that and apply something that works better.
Posted by: skscottkeyes | October 21, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse
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