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Sharron Angle: In wake of Gulf spill, we need to "deregulate" Big Oil
Dems are gearing up to paint Sharron Angle, the ultra-conservative candidate who's now taking on Harry Reid, as another Rand Paul and possibly even further to his right.
And here's another data point: Angle said in a recent interview that the Gulf spill was an "accident" and opined that we need to further "deregulate" the oil industry in the wake of the disaster.
Here's the exchange, from a Nevada Newsmakers interview on May 26th, more than a month into the spill crisis:
QUESTION: You have been in support of onshore drilling in the United States as well as offshore drilling, are you rethinking that policy with what is going on in Louisiana?
ANGLE: No. I think that what happened in Louisiana was an accident. They're cleaning it up. We need to go forward and talk about prevention and not about whether we keep it out all together. We know that lot of the problems that have been caused for us with foreign policy and even with our own gas prices here domestically going up is our dependence upon foreign oil.
We have oil reserves and petroleum reserves that we should tap into. And that's a policy that we really need to look at as a nation. How do we deregulate enough to invite our industries to come back into the United States and quit outsourcing their business?
It's astonishing how quickly a picture of Angle is taking shape as more and more info comes to light. Sam Stein, for instance, finds an Angle quote from 2009 in which she seems to suggest that it's wrong for a married man and woman to hold jobs simultaneously.
And TPM reports that Angle embraced the patriot group "Oath Keepers," which warns members to resist some sort of nefarious plot that apparently exists -- who hatched it is unclear -- to create "giant concentration camps."
As I noted here yesterday, the Reid operation is gearing up to paint Angle as, well, a nutjob, as a cross between Rand Paul and Orly Taitz. There doesn't appear to be a shortage of material.
Greg Sargent
June 9, 2010; 1:08 PM ET
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Posted by: CalD | June 9, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse
Angle also wants to store nuclear waste in Yucca mountain... which was a winning issue in Nevada for Obama in 2008, and a big win for Reid last year when he got it shut down.
I mean seriously, teabaggers don't even care what state they are running in or who the voters are before they write their platform. I don't think that they really care about anyone else, since they seem to be under the illusion that they are everyone.
I'm looking forward to taking time to campaign after primary season, I don't think the GOP is going to have nearly the success the MSM wants them to have. Not only are there serious fundraising issues, but they candidates themselves are looking more and more extreme with each and every week.
Posted by: PaulW99 | June 9, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse
won't be hard to argue that it was deregulation that got us this mess. Not sure why she thinks deregulation can fix it???
Harry may have lucked out...
Posted by: soapm | June 9, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse
Yes they do write themselves:
Sharron Obtuse Angle(R) For US Senator From Nevada.
Posted by: Liam-still | June 9, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse
"Alcohol For None, Guns For All"
Sharron Obtuse Angle
Posted by: Liam-still | June 9, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse
But no wonder Palin picked her. She's probably the only candidate who Palin understands:
"We know that lot of the problems that have been caused for us with foreign policy and even with our own gas prices here domestically going up is our dependence upon foreign oil."
In what universe does that sentence make grammatical sense?
Posted by: Ethan2010 | June 9, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse
Perhaps Sharron Obtuse Angle might wish to combine two of her policy objectives.
Why not allow a completely deregulated British Petroleum, to take care of storing spent nuclear fuel rods. After all, they have an excellent safety record. They haven't had a new toxic spill, in the past week.
That is right up there, with the safety record of Montgomery Burns' Springfield Nuclear Plant.
Posted by: Liam-still | June 9, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse
This is starting to look very similar to what happened to the Soviet Union, in Afghanistan.
"KABUL, Afghanistan – Insurgents shot down a NATO helicopter and killed four American troops in southern Afghanistan on Wednesday, the military said, in the latest bloodshed ahead of a major operation in the militants' heartland.
The violence came as Afghanistan's ousted intelligence chief warned in an interview with The Associated Press that Afghan President Hamid Karzai's strategy of seeking reconciliation with the Taliban was dangerously flawed.
The deaths, and that of a British soldier killed by an improvised bomb in a separate attack Wednesday, take NATO's toll to 29 deaths in nine days, according to an AP count. The United States, whose some 94,000 troops vastly outnumber the rest of the allies' contributions in Afghanistan, has lost 17 service members since Sunday."
Posted by: Liam-still | June 9, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse
Interesting tidbits from Geraghty:
"Last night, Sharron Angle won 70,420 votes. Harry Reid won 87,374. That's a smaller margin than I would have expected ... Another factor that's a bit surprising: 25 percent of Nevada Democrats who showed up wanted a Senate nominee that wasn't Harry Reid."
The RCP poll average also puts Angle ahead.
But really, this should be easy for Reid, notwithstanding his state's extremely high unemployment rate and the monumental hit they took with the housing crash.
Posted by: sbj3 | June 9, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse
Nice try SBJ.
Harry had no challenger, so there was no reason to push for a large turnout.
Posted by: Liam-still | June 9, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse
Sharron Obtuse Angle would like to bring back prohibition.
Is the consumption of alcoholic beverages forbidden, in L. Ron Hubbard's Science Fiction, practical joke?
Will the Conservative Coors Beer Owner, donate heavily to her campaign?
Posted by: Liam-still | June 9, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse
I'd love to watch a debate between Reid and Angle. Reid would make her look like the know-nothing that she is.
Makes me wonder, is Rand Paul doing a debate? It's probably the only way to get him out of Fox News' safety net and make him answer some actual questions.
Posted by: Beeliever | June 9, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse
SBJ, does RCP weight for the age of the poll? I ask because its an important consideration. 538 does it, and I believe Pollster does too (both generally much more credible than RCP in most cases), but for example, the TPM polltracker does not, thereby making their averages absurdly meaningless.
Posted by: holyhandgrenaid | June 9, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse
"How do we deregulate enough to invite our industries to come back into the United States and quit outsourcing their business?"
I don't even know WTH that means. Is she saying that our oil companies are outsourcing their business? Is she saying that outsourcing caused the spill? This makes no sense.
Posted by: schrodingerscat | June 9, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse
Greg, this is OT, but I only have a minute and one quick question. Any idea who Americans for Job Security (remember them) will be backing in the AR general election?
Posted by: lmsinca | June 9, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse
"Harry had no challenger, so there was no reason to push for a large turnout."
Back in reality-land, Harry had three challengers. Even "None of these candidates" won 11%
Posted by: sbj3 | June 9, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse
What Grizzly Palin is calling for ;
Drill Baby Drill, every where in the USA, and she is claiming that will meet all our oil demands, and we will have no need to import any foreign oil.
That is actually what Grizzly Palin is claiming, God save us all.
Of course; the stubborn fact that there is not anywhere that amount of oil still in the ground, in the USA, makes no difference to Grizzly Palin.
Facts are putty like, in Sarah's mind, and can be shaped to fit what every Quitter wants them to look like.
Posted by: Liam-still | June 9, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse
John Cole is right:
I simply refuse to see how it was a bad decision to support Halter. Lincoln is just a horrible candidate who is most likely going to lose in November anyway, was notoriously and openly hostile to just about everything important to the Democratic base, and the netroots were able to find a good solid candidate to attempt to primary her. If ever there was a case to primary someone, this was it- there was quite literally nothing to lose and everything to gain.
And Halter came very, very close to beating her. I just fail to see why anyone should be embarrassed, or feel foolish or demoralized. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, but you always lose if you never try. Rather than mocking the attempt or getting some schadenfreude because people you don't like on the internet feel bad today, you should get off your ass and make sure this sort of action, primarying bad politicians, becomes more rather than less common."
Posted by: BGinCHI | June 9, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse
Like I said before, Harry had no challenger that would warrant a turn out the vote, on his part.
Posted by: Liam-still | June 9, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse
Reid is going to have a field day with this nincompoop.
Posted by: adrienne_najjar | June 9, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse
Palin needs friends who look dumber than she is. Guess she found one who fills the bill.
Posted by: Howdeb | June 9, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse
@fetch the holy hand grenade: "SBJ, does RCP weight for the age of the poll?"
I've no idea (average of Mason Dixon, Rass and Research 2000). And this far out I wouldn't trust too much in polls. Angle is a far far far right candidate and she has no money and no staff.
Posted by: sbj3 | June 9, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse
Halter had every right to compete in the Primary. He had already established himself on a state wide basis.
After he won his way into a runoff, was he supposed to not try and win it?
Posted by: Liam-still | June 9, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse
She spells her name with 2 r's. That tell us a lot.
Posted by: adrienne_najjar | June 9, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse
Lots of liberal DC heads exploding today as expected. Funny to watch.
Posted by: Truthteller12 | June 9, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse
sbj, I didn't expect you to have an answer (not that that is a problem though), I was simply pointing out that poll averages have a lot to be considered in them (which is why Nate Silver's methods are so elegant and accurate).
But yes, given the point in the race, the fact that all poll predate the primary, as well as other factors, what numbers we do have right now would mean a lick right now anyway. I eagerly await the first wave of post-primary polling (albeit with a grain of salt following that laughable Kentucky poll Ras coughed up in less than a day).
Posted by: holyhandgrenaid | June 9, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse
"You should get off your ass and make sure this sort of action, primarying bad politicians, becomes more rather than less common."
Seems rather odd that some of the same folks pushing this line see no problem with the admin offering jobs to make primaries LESS competitive...
Posted by: sbj3 | June 9, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse
Wow that was rife with grammar mistakes. I complained about wanting preview and then don't use it. Shame on me
...all pollS predate...
..,have right now wouldN'T mean...
Posted by: holyhandgrenaid | June 9, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse
And how do you feel about that?
I do not recall your side getting upset about a few teabaggers blocking the incumbent Republican Utah senator from running for renomination.
Posted by: Liam-still | June 9, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse
Well, I agree with Angle about there being sources of energy in this country that we need to tap into, but we'd prolly disagree on which and to what extent...
Posted by: ChuckinDenton | June 9, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse
Let me see: deregulate companies so they will come back into the U.S. and, in the case of oil, drill off the coast, right Sharron?
You said there should be "prevention" of more spills, correct? Just how do you suppose that will be accomplished other than by "regulation"?
Posted by: ChuckinDenton | June 9, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse
Yes, if we could just capture all the hot gas coming out of Rush Limbaugh, and all those brain farts being emitted by TeaBaggers, we would become energy independent overnight.
Posted by: Liam-still | June 9, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse
One nutjob running against another. Love it.
Posted by: charlesbakerharris | June 9, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse
Again, you take someone out of context. Her comments about deregulation were in the general sense, not specifically about big oil. To write that she specifically wants to "deregulate big oil" is simply a lie.
But it appears she may in fact have some positions that are out of the mainstream, at least based on past statements. Because of Reid's unpopularity this is actually a competitive race.
Posted by: RambleOn | June 9, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse
@liam: "I do not recall your side getting upset about a few teabaggers blocking the incumbent Republican Utah senator from running for renomination."
I'm not sure I understand. Are you comparing a union spending $10 million to a very strange nominating process in Utah that by odd design permitted a fringe group to knock off a reliable incumbent? (BTW, if you do not recall "my side" getting upset then you don't pay much attention.)
Posted by: sbj3 | June 9, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse
You lefties never cease to amaze me with the lack of analytical depth. Did you consider for a second why BP was drilling 5000' below sea level? Did you think it was their first choice? Or was it an unintended consequence of the heavy-handed REGULATION of the industry in DC? Now, I know I have to hold hands a bit here: oil exploration has been pushed out so far to sea because of the restrictive rules pushed by the enviro-statists (read democratic legislators) created ny REGULATING off-shore drilling. The same BP you loathe has had one 6,400 barrel accident in Prudome Bay AK in 30 years--would you prefer that outcome to the incredible difficulty in fixing a leak a mile below sea level? Do ya think if we opened up drilling in the ANWR, we might have LESS spills at sea? For a bunch so behind REGULATION, perhaps you might want to take a look at what politically-driven regulation has done on a net-basis.
And any idiot who thinks there is a limited amount of oil in the ground--you just don't understand logic, do you? Is it possible to prove a negative? So, kinda like your global warming myth, you just push off the end point where we might actually be able to analyze your theory to whatever far point into the future--and continue to tug on the emotional purse strings of your base to continue the charade....
Posted by: DagnyTaggert1 | June 9, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse
One can only wonder what the motivation is for such a bizarre set of positions. Defending Big Oil against people who've lost their livelihood to the environmental catastrophe they've caused, wanting to turn one's state into a nuclear waste dump, wanting to cancel peoples' retirement, wanting to force some wacko religion on state prisoners. Is there a common thread here? Why do people like this think they have something to offer?
Posted by: DaveHarris | June 9, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse
We could save thousands of lives each year by forbidding at-grade intersections on all of our roads. Replacing the at-grade intersections with overpasses would be prohibitively expensive and many roads would need to be closed. We don't implement this type of regulation because we weigh cost vs benefit, and substitute bearable regulation, stop signs, for unbearable regulation requiring overpasses.
I believe that is what Sharron Angle is saying--weigh the cost of big oil regulation with the benefit; and don't base the dicision on a once in a lifetime accident that may have been preventable with appropriate oversight.
Posted by: amazd | June 9, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse
We could save thousands of lives each year by forbidding at-grade intersections on all of our roads. Replacing the at-grade intersections with overpasses would be prohibitively expensive and many roads would need to be closed. We don't implement this type of regulation because we weigh cost vs benefit, and substitute bearable regulation, stop signs, for unbearable regulation requiring overpasses.
I believe that is what Sharron Angle is saying--weigh the cost of big oil regulation with the benefit; and don't base the dicision on a once in a lifetime accident that may have been preventable with appropriate oversight.
Posted by: amazd | June 9, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse
"DagnyTaggert" says it all: free markets solve everything.
Oil companies are over-regulated?
You don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by: BGinCHI | June 9, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse
@DagnyTaggert1 - Presumably, because there was *OIL* there. Are you naive enough to think that deep water drilling is unique to the Caribbean? If so, go read a little.
Jake in 3D
Posted by: JakeD3 | June 9, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse
deregulating isn't the same debate as whether to drill in ANWR or closer to shore (the environmentalists and their sympathetic congressmen may want to rethink that now, perhaps?).
Angle's statement about the leak being an accident not indicating a need for more regulation is the dumb one. It may have been, but she can't know that. It could just as easily (and likely much more easily) have been the result of the shortcuts and regulatory infractions we are starting to hear about, that scared one rig worker into putting his affairs in order on his last visit and telling his wife that BP was cutting corners, or the failure to keep the BOP in top shape, or the decision to change the mix in the pumping prematurely. stuff like that.
Rand Paul had the same "accident" response to the mine in KY. couldn't have been the hundreds of violations of methane gas management regulations that he thinks a free market would make unnecessary to begin with. like without regulation mines would be more likely to try to be safe. any first year business or economics student can recite the myriad flaws in this libertarian garbage. it doesn't even work in theory, let alone reality.
Posted by: JoeT1 | June 9, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse
amazd wrote....
I believe that is what Sharron Angle is saying--weigh the cost of big oil regulation with the benefit; and don't base the dicision on a once in a lifetime accident that may have been preventable with appropriate oversight.
The problem is that if you look at the drilling industry across the globe, these kinds of accidents happen pretty regularly. Nigeria, a favorite among the drilling companies because they have little oversight, has spills like this every year.
Posted by: RGee1 | June 9, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse
Well, just goes to show, Republicans still think clean water and clean air is a joke.
Most humans cant' live without water or air, but it still makes no difference to wacko Republicans that the air and water we need to sustain life itself should be clean air and clean water.
Won't be long before the planet is 3/4 oil, instead of 3/4 water.
Posted by: lindalovejones | June 9, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse
@DagnyTaggert1: Do ya think if we opened up drilling in the ANWR, we might have LESS spills at sea?
No, offshore drilling would continue with or without ANWR.
"And any idiot who thinks there is a limited amount of oil in the ground--you just don't understand logic, do you?"
Arguing against the fact that there is a finite amount of oil that can be exploited defies logic. Have you heard of peak oil? We are at stage 3 of peak oil, where the only large deposits left are either technologically (see gulf oil spill), environmentally (see tar sands, shale oil with their use of water) or financially challenging (see all of the above). To keep up with world demand in the future we need to find a Saudi Arabia sized untapped oil deposit about every 6 months. We find one about every 5 years. Do the math...
Posted by: srw3 | June 9, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse
And yet Deregulate Angle, would like to bring back Prohibition!
I am waiting for her to announce that she is going to fly to Loch Ness, to offer the position of Prohibition Czar, to Elliot.
Posted by: Liam-still | June 9, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse
Taggers+"global warming myth"= next?
Posted by: ChuckinDenton | June 9, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse
Sharron Obtuse Angle is the gift that keeps on giving.
From TPM.
"The Las Vegas Review-Journal reported in April 1999 that the state assembly, of which Angle was a member, voted 26-16 for a bill that required fluoridation in two counties including the cities of Reno and Las Vegas. Angle was a strong opponent of the measure. The paper reported (via Nexis):
Before the vote, Assemblywoman Sharron Angle, R-Reno, sought to postpone the vote so she could add an amendment to block fluoridation in Washoe County. The Washoe County Commission in 1992 rejected fluoridation, and Angle said the Legislature should not approve fluoridation in her county without a vote of its people.
While another member of the Assembly suggested opponents of the measure were worried about the financial implications of fluoridation, the Review-Journal reported: "Angle said she simply does not like fluoride." Angle added she believed most fluoride used in water supplies could contain "lead, arsenic, [or] mercury.""
Posted by: Liam-still | June 9, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse
amazd: Don't base the dicision on a once in a lifetime accident
I suppose that is true if you live less than 35 years. See the Ixtoc I oil spill for the last catastrophic oil spill in the gulf. The toxic environmentally damaging effects of that spill continued for decades from a spill in 1979.
see this link for more once in a lifetime events...en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil_spills
Posted by: srw3 | June 9, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse
Over Regulated, My Arse!
"Feds knew of Gulf spill risks in 2000, document shows
Shashank Bengali | McClatchy Newspapers
last updated: June 09, 2010 01:12:42 PM
WASHINGTON — A decade ago, U.S. government regulators warned that a major deepwater oil spill could start with a fire on a drilling rig, prove hard to stop and cause extensive damage to fish eggs and wetlands because there were few good ways to capture oil underwater.
The disaster scenario — contained in a May 2000 offshore drilling plan for the Shell oil company that McClatchy has obtained — is now a grim reality in the Gulf of Mexico. Less predictably, perhaps, the author of the document was the Interior Department's Minerals Management Service, the regulatory agency that's come under withering criticism in the wake of the BP spill for being too cozy with industries it was supposed to be regulating.
The 2000 warning, however, indicates that some federal regulators were well aware of the potential hazards of deepwater oil production in its early years, experts and former MMS officials told McClatchy.
Yet over the past decade, the risks faded into the background as America thirsted for new oil sources, the energy industry mastered new drilling technologies and the number of deepwater wells in the Gulf swelled into the thousands. Then-President George W. Bush ushered in the new era with an executive order on May 18, 2001, that pushed his new administration to speed up the search for oil.
"I think it was certainly overwhelmed by the excitement of all the oil and gas that was starting to show up in the seismic studies and the technical excitement of how to drill these reservoirs," said Rick Steiner, a veteran environmental scientist who reviewed the document for McClatchy. "I think that had a way of subduing the real concern about the risk of these things."
The Shell plan, which Greenwire, an environmental news service, first reported last week, described a worst-case scenario for a deepwater blowout that in several instances reads like a preview of what's happened since BP's Deepwater Horizon rig began spewing crude into the Gulf seven weeks ago."
Posted by: Liam-still | June 9, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse
What a surprise that a commenter who chose an Ayn Rand character as a handle would wade in with condescending, uniniformed, blue-sky Libertarian boilerplate.
I'm scandalized.
Posted by: Cecil5 | June 9, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse
Shorter Teabagger's theme:
Regulate people. Deregulate business.
Posted by: wbgonne | June 9, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse
Amazing all the negative stuff posted here by you IDIOT LIBTARDS who don't even live in Nevada. None of you jerks knows squat about the Silver State. Don't be surprised if Angle handily beats that a**wipe Harry Reid in the November elections. Harry hasn't done squat for this state amd just about everyone knows it too. Outside of a bunch of union scumbags in Las Vegas and a small group of LIB IDIOTS also in Las Vegas, noone supports Reid in Nevada. The state has an almost equal number of Democrat and Republican voters; and in the just past primary election Republicans heavily outvoted Democrats. It will be the same in November. A**hole Harry should start clearing out his desk, because he will be voted out. Numbers don't lie!
Posted by: avideo99 | June 9, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse
We could save thousands of lives each year by forbidding at-grade intersections on all of our roads. Replacing the at-grade intersections with overpasses would be prohibitively expensive and many roads would need to be closed. We don't implement this type of regulation because we weigh cost vs benefit, and substitute bearable regulation, stop signs, for unbearable regulation requiring overpasses.
I believe that is what Sharron Angle is saying--weigh the cost of big oil regulation with the benefit; and don't base the dicision on a once in a lifetime accident that may have been preventable with appropriate oversight.
that's precisely what she was NOT saying. suggesting that existing regulation should have been sufficient if enforced by vigilant regulators and arguing for prudence against overreaction would have sounded reasonable indeed. she was taking the Rand Paul/Ayn Rand libertarian less regulation tack.
Posted by: JoeT1 | June 9, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse
Freedom for the corporations and rules for the humans.
Sounds like a surefire winner to me. Corporations can vote now, or is that the NEXT ruling of this Activist Conservative Supreme Court?
Posted by: wbgonne | June 9, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse
"And any idiot who thinks there is a limited amount of oil in the ground--you just don't understand logic, do you?"
Umm Danny, your statement has no logic. I am a geologist. Petroleum is from the remains of large concentrations of marine algae, cooked at just the right temperature and pressure for the right amount of time. To be recoverable it has to migrate from the source rock and be trapped in a permeable reservoir.
Guess what? These conditions are rarely met. Add in the fact that there have been limited times in Earth's history when there was significant enough accumulation of algal remains to begin with to start the process, you wind up with finite amount of the stuff that you can recover.
We've already found the easy stuff and all the really big fields (which are easy to find). This includes just offshore and in the coastal areas of the gulf btw, no regulations have stopped drilling there. Even presuming there was oil beneath ANWR, it would be drop in the bucket with regards to our consumption and they would STILL want to drill deep offshore.
The only thing illogical here is your magical belief that there is infinite supply of oil left to be found easily and cheaply.
Posted by: ACD-pa | June 9, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse
Angle is right - we must attract more buisinesses and prevent them from continuing to move overseas and that would include corporate tax reductions and more de-regulation. Anyone that really thinks more goverment regulation would have prevented this spill is truly an idiot. Just watching the government's response under Obama to the oil spill shows how ineffective the Federal Government is. The leftist socialist morons want to move to more government control, yet it was the oil company from a Euro-socialist nation that caused the spill.....the de-regualted American companies did not....once again the Democrats look the fool.
Angle is right and will win rather easily - NOONE in Nevada wants Reid back.
Posted by: Realist20 | June 10, 2010 6:28 AM | Report abuse
The Gulf Catastrophe could have been avoided if the US were growing algae. Algae is renewable, does not affect the food channel and consumes CO2. No explosions, no fires, no deaths and no environmental problems. What's wrong with that???
Algae has been researched in US universities for over 35 years. It's time to move it out of the lab and go into commercial-scale production. Algaepreneurs are starting to build commercial-scale plants throughout the US using all off-the-shelf existing technologies. More algae production plants are coming online. Algae is one solution to get the US off of foreign oil and create new jobs right here in the US. The algae industry is being built today by Americans who all want to get off foreign oil.
Posted by: fatalgae | June 10, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse
For all those who say transporting and storing Nuclear Waste is safe...I say, sure it is; it's just as safe as you said deep underwater oil drilling was going to be by BP in the Gulf....How did that work out for you....Only with a Nuclear Waste Disaster it will be RADIATION spread all over that lasts thousands of years instead of mere biological oil waste that lasts for decades. And if it is sooooo safe and a boon to the State that accepts it, WHY isn't every other State that already has temporary storage at a Nuclear Power Plant fighting to get the Permanent Nuclear Storage Dump for their citizens, communities and economy, instead of trying to give their Nuclear Suppository to Nevada???? NUCLEAR WASTE IN NEVADA--NO THANKS!
Posted by: benighse | June 10, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse
Wow, what a nutjob Angle is. She had better stay safe on Fox Lies. What if the public finds out she's crazy?
Posted by: MarkFromOhio | June 15, 2010 7:19 AM | Report abuse
Wow. Suddenly this doesn't look like the shoe-in for the Republicans that was advertised not too long ago.
Posted by: jeffwacker | June 15, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse
How much is Reid paying you and WaPo?
Let's look at the entire quote you butchered.
"We have oil reserves and petroleum reserves that we should tap into. And that's a policy that we really need to look at as a nation. How do we deregulate enough to invite our industries to come back into the United States and quit outsourcing their business? We need it here. And especially in this climate, and we also need to talk about taxation as well, you know, the corporate tax rate. Why is Ireland at 12.5%, here we're at 25-35%. We need to be competitive, and competitive in all markets."
Completely different statement. Harry thanks you for carrying his water.
Posted by: jcrue | June 16, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse
hey mark from ohio how about you worry about your own f'd up state?
Posted by: jcrue | June 16, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse
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Money-raising campaigns off and running
Campaign cash is not a sure predictor of who will win an election, but candidates would rather have more to spend than less.
Over the last few days, members of Congress and some of the people who hope to challenge them in November have released reports about how much money they raised in the first quarter of the year.
Ever since Republican Chip Cravaack defeated longtime 8th District DFL Congressman Jim Oberstar in 2010, Democrats have plotted their comeback in what is considered a Democratic-leaning area.
Judging from the numbers, Cravaack has a fight ahead of him.
Cravaack pulled in $246,000.
The three Democrats competing to run against Cravaack collectively raised $436,000 in the first three months of this year. DFL challenger Tarryl Clark's campaign raised the most — $320,000, outstripping Cravaack.
Clark's fundraising total reflects her grassroots focus, campaign manager Joe Fox said.
"Tarryl's was extraordinarily good for a challenger in what is frankly not a wealthy congressional district," Fox said.
A closer look at the contributors who gave more than $200 to Clark's campaign suggests she is getting most of her money from outside Minnesota through Democratic fundraising websites and a large email list that Clark gathered while running against Michele Bachmann in 2010.
"You cannot compete without money, but money doesn't do anything for you if you don't also have the underlying support of voters and individuals..."
Those large donations amounted to more than $54,000 from 202 Minnesota residents for Clark's campaign. A total of 3,300 Minnesotans have contributed to Clark, her campaign points out .
Democrats point out that Cravaack's family has moved to New Hampshire while he continues to represent Minnesota. They say he is out of touch with the district. However, Cravaack appears to have a stronger fundraising base from within the state.
His campaign pulled in about $102,000 from 317 Minnesota residents who gave more than $200. The Federal Election Commission doesn't require campaigns to itemize donations below $200.
Cravaack campaign manager Ben Golnik is pleased with the Republican incumbent's numbers so far.
"The fact that he's been able to raise a significant amount of money from a large base of donors from all parts of the 8th District — I think that's a very good sign," Golnik said.
However, University of Minnesota political science professor Kathryn Pearson said the fact that his challengers are pulling in so much money is not a good sign for Cravaack.
"Vulnerable incumbents actually should be raising the most money because they can go to donors, partisans and say, 'Hey look, I need money,' " Pearson said. "Incumbents typically are better poised to raise money than challengers."
In the neighboring 6th District, Michele Bachmann's re-election campaign is underway after her failed bid for the GOP presidential nomination.
Bachmann's raised $550,000 last quarter — more than any other House incumbent in Minnesota but considerably less than what she had raised during the same period in her 2010 campaign.
Bachmann's campaign manager, Chase Kroll, was not available for an interview but in a statement last week wrote that figure reflects less than two months of fundraising.
Over the weekend, 6th District Democrats endorsed businessman Jim Graves to take on Bachmann.
Graves has loaned his campaign $100,000, and spokesman Donald McFarland said Graves will have plenty of money on hand for the general election.
"At the end of the day, there's no doubt that Rep. Bachmann has the ability to raise a lot of money. We're going to also raise a lot of money," McFarland said.
When Clark ran against Bachmann in 2010, it was the most expensive House race in the country. This year, observers can expect to see numerous liberal donors from around the country giving heavily to Graves.
Still, Graves faces an uphill battle, Pearson said.
"He's running against an incumbent in a solidly Republican district," Pearson said.
For the big statewide race on this year's ballot, DFL Sen. Amy Klobuchar raised $1 million in the first quarter for her re-election and has $5.2 million in the bank.
Two of her three GOP rivals have released their fundraising. Former Army National Guard Capt. Pete Hegseth brought in $160,000 while Dan Severson collected a little more than $50,000.
Election analysis newsletter The Cook Political Report rates Klobuchar's seat as safely Democratic, which raises the question, what is Klobuchar likely to do with all that money? That kind of war chest could really help Klobuchar's career on Capitol Hill, Pearson said.
"I would not be surprised if Sen. Klobuchar helps other candidates who then in turn, if they win, are particularly supportive of her should she run for the Senate leadership," Pearson said.
But of course, money isn't everything.
Cravaack was heavily outspent by Oberstar in 2010, and there are plenty of stories of well-financed candidates who crashed and burned on the campaign trail.
Fox, Clark's campaign manager, said there is one rule of politics that still applies equally to both sides of the aisle.
"You cannot compete without money, but money doesn't do anything for you if you don't also have the underlying support of voters and individuals and also spend your money well," Fox said.
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Super Bowl: Top beer bars to watch game
In this beer-savvy area, Super Bowl fans need sports bars with more than plasma screens and cold Bud Light. Five that are stepping up their beer game:
Monkey Paw
805 16th St., East Village. (619) 358-9901 or
Small, noisy and frat-house homey, Scot Blair's latest joint soars on his high beer IQ and in-house brewer Derek Freese's chops.
Pacific Beach AleHouse
721 Grand Ave., Pacific Beach. (858) 581-2337 or
Beer here is morning-dew fresh — Erik Jensen brews on site — and PBA overflows with TV sets. If the game goes flat, you're steps from the beach.
Press Box Sports Lounge
2990 Jamacha Road, Suite 120, El Cajon. (619) 713-6990 or
More than 100 bottled beers, but the envelope-pushing tap list always surprises — Bear Republic's IPA, Racer 5, naturally, but the same brewery's wee heavy, Heritage?
Breakwater Brewing
101 N. Coast Highway, Oceanside. (760) 433-6064 or
Don't drink and drive. Instead, ride the Coaster to an airy brewpub that loves beer (a dozen house creations on tap) and football.
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Hot on Your Trail: How Much is Your Data Worth?
Privacy remains a hot topic in the digital age. We've previously discussed certain aspects about online privacy such as the Do Not Track function in browsers and personalized advertising. However, it appears that a lot of users are still unaware of how to keep their information private. For instance, according to Consumer Reports, 13 million users have never set Facebook's privacy tools. A Pew Research report found that only 38 percent were aware of ways on how to limit the amount of information they put online.
Keeping your personal information private is important because your data is valuable. Users are well aware that cybercriminals want data related to financials, such as credit card information, online banking credentials, and Paypal accounts. However, they may not know that seemingly harmless or useless data (e.g., gender or likes) is also important —to marketers. Marketers need user data to make sure that the right message is sent to the right demographic.
But how do cybercriminals and marketers get your data? What happens once data is made available publicly? To know the answers and for additional information about your data, check out our latest infographic, "Hot on Your Trail: How Much is Your Data Worth?"
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Festival of Nine Lessons and Carols
|December 2, 2012
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|Although the Festival of Nine Lessons and Carols at King's College, Cambridge, dates from 1918, it was modeled after a service originating in Cornwall four decades before. Edward White Benson had been named Bishop of Truro, charged with overseeing the building of the new cathedral there. At ten o'clock on Christmas eve in 1880, he held a service featuring nine "lessons" drawn from Scripture interspersed with Christmas carols. These nine "lessons" trace the biblical narrative from Eden to Christ's birth, from brokenness to hopeful joy. Participants are immersed in the story and find themselves once again waiting with expectation.
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Disaster and climate resilience must be fully integrated in the African development agenda to end poverty and achieve shared prosperity.
YOKOHAMA, Japan, June 2, 2013 – Building resilience to disasters and climate change will not only protect the fruits of development in Africa, but is also necessary to further propel inclusive growth in the continent, global leaders meeting in Japan agreed on Sunday.
Prime Minister Shinzo Abe of Japan, speaking to heads of African governments and international institutions at an event during the 5th Tokyo International Conference on African Development (TICAD V), made it clear that disasters are a serious threat to development – both in developing and in developed countries.
"As Japan painfully experienced in 2011, disasters are perhaps the most urgent threat to human security and development. Climate change is only going to make things worse," Abe said. "Japan is committed to supporting African countries and communities as they strive to build resilience."
This is an especially urgent challenge for Africa. "Africa is the engine of growth of the future," said World Bank Group President Jim Yong Kim. "But with its population growth, rapid urbanization, and environmental pressures it is also extremely vulnerable to the impacts of disasters and climate change. Future-proofing African development by building resilience will determine how successful we are at ending extreme poverty and creating shared prosperity."
Hailemariam Desalegn, Prime Minister of Ethiopia and Chairperson of the African Union noted that Africa has held steady economic growth for the past decade, with growth rates well over 5 percent in recent years.
"This is the time for action," said Desalegn. "We can't afford to see countries and communities locked in growth paths that are not sustainable. We must work with the international community to develop national and local capacity to manage disaster and climate risks."
Disasters and climate extremes can roll back years of development gains. Over the past 30 years, developing countries alone suffered US$1.2 trillion in disaster losses, with far reaching indirect impacts.
"What we don't often realize is that disasters can have long-term impacts that impede development," said Ban Ki-moon, Secretary General of the United Nations. "We must look at challenges posed by disasters through a development lens as we accelerate efforts to achieve the Millennium Development Goals and discuss post-2015 priorities."
The event "Building Climate and Disaster Resilience for African Development", jointly organized by the World Bank-Global Facility for Disaster Reduction and Recovery (GFDRR) and the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP), is part of an ongoing effort to build international commitment to integrate disaster and climate risk considerations in development policy and programs, with a view to the post-2015 development framework.
"Focusing our joint efforts on building disaster and climate resilience in Africa remains critical – particularly as we consider the scope of the new development agenda post 2015," said Helen Clark, UNDP Administrator.
Fumio Kishida, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Japan echoed this message.
"Japan, embracing the principle of human security, will continue to vigorously advocate for addressing climate change and disaster risks as part of international development efforts," Kishida said. "In March 2015 we will host the Third UN World Conference on Disaster Risk Reduction to establish the successor of the Hyogo Framework of Action."


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"Barbors" and big bucks
Somehow, the term "barbor shop" crept into the name of a new salon in last week's story about renewal on West Main. The salon's name is simply JNT Hair Design. (And we, too, have no idea what a "barbor" shop is.)
In our March 25 Photophile, the specifics of the fundraising for the Music Resource Center were misstated. Approximately $430,000 has been spent on renovation. The on-going $2 million fundraising effort is part of a capital and endowment campaign to buy the building (which hasn't happened yet) and complete the renovations.
The date of the "Take Back the Night" was misstated in the weekly calendar. See this week's Tunes feature on page 40 for the actual date and details.


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Over 146o young people from over 119 countries applied, and 20 were chosen. Joi M. Sears, the Creative Director of Free People International is one of the 20 social entrepreneurs who has been offered a prestigious one-year fellowship to the DO SCHOOL, more specifically the "Green Store Challenge" (by H&M) in Hamburg, Germany. The DO SCHOOL is an innovative educational institution providing learning that creates real impact. It is designed to train, mentor, and empower outstanding emerging social entrepreneurs from all around the world to kickstart their own social ventures in their home countries. The program allows an opportunity for fellows to learn from passionate peers, engage with current leaders and experts, and create change by implementing their social start-ups around the world. The year long program takes place in two phases. For the Green Store Challenge, the ten-week incubation phase will take place at the DO SCHOOL's Hamburg campus from the 27 of April 2014 till the 6th of July 2014. This phase will be followed by the ten-month Implementation Phase to be conducted in the Fellows' home countries. Through the Green Store Challenge, Fellows will connect with leading experts on a variety of topics including the environmental impact of construction materials and recycling systems, as well as sustainable interior design and retail operation. Fellows will conduct research to identify and understand the status quo of H&M, and its vision of sustainability, in the context of available best-practices regarding sustainable design and operation. Based on these learning experiences, the Fellows will brainstorm, identify and test ideas for a Green Store prototype and put them to a real life test for a week in a German H&M store. Focus will lie on finding a viable solution that is innovative, scalable, economical and one that fits within the existing H&M Germany framework by focusing on the aspects of idea generation, interior concept & design, communication and operation in store, as well as training of the staff and evaluation of the prototype. We are very excited about this opportunity, and the potential growth of Free People International through this outlet. We invite your participation throughout the various phases of this initiative so please check back often for updates, better yet -
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Teams take in All-Star sights as Jr. RBI Classic begins
More than 500 kids participate in free clinic at refurbished Hinton Park
NEW YORK -- They couldn't have asked for a better backdrop.
Major League Baseball kicked off the fifth annual Jr. RBI Classic on Friday night at Hinton Park, a newly refurbished field that rests a stone's throw from Citi Field. Twelve teams from all around the country had gathered to be part of All-Star Week and to celebrate their bright future in baseball and beyond.
RBI, which stands for Reviving Baseball in Inner Cities, involves more than 200,000 kids around the country, and the Jr. RBI divisions account for nearly half that total. The Jr. RBI Classic started Friday morning at parks around Queens, but Hinton Park held a free baseball clinic on Friday night.
MLB held a quick opening ceremony to celebrate both the tournament and the successful renovations at Hinton Park, and then the teams split up in stations to work on their baseball skills. For David James, director of the RBI program, it was the realization of countless hours of work.
"We're really excited to have all these kids here," he said. "We've got the 12 teams participating in the Jr. RBI Classic and an additional 13 teams that are playing in the northeast regional tournament. To give all these kids -- almost 500 of them -- an All-Star experience, we're very pleased with it."
All of the kids have been staying at dormitories on the campus at St. John's University, and they'll play a friendly round-robin tournament over the next few days. When they're not playing, said James, they'll be included in a wide variety of activities that correspond with the All-Star Game at Citi Field.
On Thursday night, for instance, a lot of the kids got a chance to take in a game at the home of the Brooklyn Cyclones. The students -- most of them aged 11 or 12 -- will also get a chance to take in the Futures Game and the Chevrolet Home Run Derby, but for James, there's more to the whole experience.
"One of the neat things last night was with one of the Classic teams," he said. "They're from Los Angeles and there were a number of kids who had never seen the Atlantic Ocean. To be able to go out to Coney Island and see that was great. We have young ladies here from Denver, Colo., and from Detroit, Mich. Going south a little bit, we have teams from Norfolk, Va., and from Prince Georges County, Md. We really try with the Classic to make a selection that is representative of the whole country."
Hinton Park, damaged by Hurricane Sandy and renovated by the Mets and Major League Baseball in conjunction with the Cal Ripken Sr. Foundation and the NYC Department of Parks and Renovation, got a workout on Friday night from roughly 150 kids and a few dozen able instructors.
David Newman, the Mets' senior vice president of marketing and communications, said the Mets were thrilled to play host to the Jr. RBI Classic. Newman said that Queens is the most diverse borough in the most diverse city on the planet, and he noted just how close the Mets play to Hinton Park.
"For all of us that work with the New York Mets, our ballpark is right across the way," he said. "During the winter time, when the trees are a little less full, you can see Citi Field. And we can see Hinton Park. And after we saw the storm and just years and years of use of this park -- not just by folks like you, but by people in the community -- this field needed repair so it could be used on an everyday basis."
Steve Salem, the executive director of the Cal Ripken Sr. Foundation, said that Hinton Park is a perfect example of the work being done in other cities around the country. Salem credited the Mets and MLB for being the driving forces behind Hinton Park, but he said that field is hardly alone.
The Ripken Foundation could have 50 ballparks built by the end of 2015, he said, and all in inner-city neighborhoods. But there are no boundaries. There are parks being built in Maine and in Washington state, and Salem said there should be as many as 25 new ones by the end of the year.
"We are building these all over the country. It's one of our primary national initiatives," he said. "We call them youth development parks. Each park costs about $1 million, and they're all synthetic turf. They're in tough neighborhoods where the kids can't really play outside, either because it's unsafe or they don't have access to a field to play baseball or football or anything else they want to play."
Salem went on to say that the Hinton Park field is built up to Major League specifications in its drainage and the condition of its sub-base, and that he hopes it will be in use for years to come. And that's the bottom line for Major League Baseball and for the RBI initiative in all its forms.
"This is for you, the RBI kids," said Tim Brosnan, MLB's executive vice president of business. "Use this week to learn what we all know about baseball: to learn about friendships, to learn about camaraderie, to learn about competition. To learn about winning and losing. Just learn about the joy that baseball can bring into your lives. You've got a big group of people here. If you do one thing while you're here today, find a new friend out of this whole group. And that will be your All-Star memory."
The kids will have memories on the field, and they'll have a chance to see some big league history up close over the next few days. But if you ask James, it's much more than that. It's about inculcating life lessons and stressing the importance of scholarship through sports and friendship.
"We're really stressing with both the younger kids and the older kids about the opportunity of staying at a college campus," said James. "It's not all about baseball and softball, it's about thinking about their future. And that stays with the mission of RBI in trying to create Major League citizens."


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Broken windows please
Disabling IE at the press of a button will not do anything useful. A money back for IE button is closer to the useful. The real answer is broken windows for free, and buttons to pay for unbreaking what users really need.
Microsoft has formally responded to European Commission concerns about bundling of its web browser Internet Explorer with Windows operating systems. The original complaint was made by Norwegian browser maker Opera. It accused Microsoft of leveraging its desktop monopoly to distribute the browser and of ignoring web standards. …
Yes this is definatly microsoft trying to monopolize the web browser market. Its not like any other operating system comes with a pre-installed operating system or anything. I mean if windows didnt come with an OS I would be pretty angry. I dont even use IE much but its nice to have sometimes.
Come on, this argument was had years ago, and should be considered over and done with by now.
Microsoft aren't doing anything wrong by bundling IE. You have the option of installing another browser, they're not blocking you. My main point is that if it's made illegal for Microsoft to bundle IE, it should be illegal for Apple to bundle Safari. And for any Linux distro to come with a browser too.
I think the only purpose to these monopoly arguments should be to ensure a level playing field for all customers. As it is, it's a waste of time.
As many have already pointed out previously, if Microsoft are not allowed to bundle their choice of web browser with their own operating system then ANY operating system "manufacturer" should not be allowed to do so.
What's the solution?
Make EVERY OS come without a browser? how would you (merer mortals) get a web browser
Make EVERY OS come with EVERY single browser ever written (can you get IE for Unix?)
Vauxhall have a monopoly on Vauxhall cars, don't see any antitrust cases being brought about that do you? I mean you still have a choice if you want to use a different engine don't you?
I'm gonna be pissed if the Ubongoto 9.04 I'm installing tonight has bloody Firefox on it... That's just monopolizing Ubooty's strong grip of the consumer Linux base and being unfair and uncompetitive. In fact, I'm just gonna download IE and use that instead... thank f*** they went ahead and gave me a browser to enable my choice, eh?
It's wrong for Microsoft because Microsoft has a legal monopoly in many areas of computing. Apple and 'Linux' do not. Vauxhall does not. Microsoft has used its OS monopoly to extinguish competition in other areas.
If you're ignorant of the facts and opinions you would do well to read http://www.ecis.eu/documents/Finalversion_Consumerchoicepaper.pdf.
No they have used their monopoly to install a piece of software by default that users are free to replace with any other piece of software they like.
If they were preventing users from installing competing software they may have a case to answer for. Suggesting that they should cripple the OS for the bulk of consumers, who generally couldn't give two sh*ts what browser they happen to be using, simply because a competing software company decided to use the jackboot of government rather than writing a browser that consumers want to use smacks of bias against success rather than a well reasoned argument.
It is funny but everytime I suggest to a Microsoft salesman that they send me their money and I'll decide what software to give them, they object.
Yet they claim that forcing consumers to purchase IE is just fine.
That only works if you illegally bundle IE with the OS.
Just like Bill Gates said a long time ago. If Netscape does not stay out of the Microsoft markeplace, Microsoft will just illegally bundle IE. Even that idiot knows a whole lot more about what is illegal and how illegal acts can dictate what consumers buy and use.
As for other systems and browsers, yes, they should all provide a choice of which is included or leave it out. And take off some money if it is omitted.
There is nothing wrong with including handy buttons that would download a browser of the customer's choice. Even a "DownLoad IE" button for Linux would be just fine.
Forcing all consumers to pay cash for IE regardless of what the customer wants is not.
Commingling IE with the OS is illegal in the US. (notwithstanding the DOJ refusing to enforce the law as decided in the US appellate court)
Bundling IE with the OS is harmful to all. Even the fools that pay cash for it but think they are getting a free toy in their happy meal. I guess they still have their mommy pick out their clothes and decide what food they eat.
Forcing someone to have sex against their will is insulting. Forcing everyone to buy IE is likewise insulting. And, no, claims that the sex is free does not justify the illegal act.
I think we all agree that bundling IE with Windows is a crap argument. They should be complaining about tying IE and Windows together. Can you install the latest Windows Updates with Firefox/Safari/Opera?
What about how IE is the only browser that can automatically install software (including malware) at the OS level? They need to sever the tie between IE and Windows, and come up with something like apt-url so that any browser could trigger the OS to install/update software.
How many times does it need explaining. Its not about shipping IE, its about how it is integrated into the OS.
You can remove IE from the desktop and the menus, you can go in and remove every single reference to it when it comes to file associations but it is still there and will jump in and take over for no apparent reason.
Car comparision: Its like you fiting a third party radio/CD player to your car because you dont like the one that it comes with but Ford wont service your car unless the original is still there and from time to time you find that your upgraded system has been replaced by the original without warning.
Comparing Apple and Linux with what Microsoft has done and why it is constantly being questioned on monitored is ignorant.
Microsoft gained their monopoly via predatory and malicious practices. This was proven during a lengthy trial.
Apple has no monopoly other than over their own equipment. They also strive to keep their browser standards compliant.
How in the world could you conceive that a free operating system could achieve any sort of monopoly that isn't purely user driven.
And in the case of at least Ubuntu - sudo aptitude install firefox will get you a browser just fine. It's only because of MS's ridiculous system that you can't do other wise. (oh and too stupid to type just open synaptic and have at a few thousand programs.)
An AC said "Microsoft isn't blocking anyone from installing another os"
Nope, they are not. As long as you are forced to buy their OS whether you want it or not they are happy.
This complaint about bundling browsers is ludicrous however. The real complaint is the way MS bully their OEMs into not offering alternatives to MS crapware.
Where is Evil Ballmer Icon el reg? It can't be that hard to stick a pair of horns on Uncle Festers noggin' can it?
So what was the response? I'm not seeing any news article here
P.S. People, please gather up your pens and papers and write this down, because this has been thrashed around so many times it is now more than tedious
As AC pointed out @ 29th April 2009 18:38 GMT "Its not so much the bundling "
How many times does it need explaining. Its not about shipping IE, its about how it is integrated into the OS.
The Browser is forced on you, and you can never remove it. Even after installing other browsers, you still can never be free of it. It is integrated to the OS.
Other O/Ss do not force the browser on you, that is the difference.
It's not hard! It's not the bundeling per say they're complaining about, or even the integration (as bad as that is).
It's the fact they bundled a *standards incompatible* browser with there near-monopoly OS. This encouraged designers to write sites that would show up well in IE, but which would look like a dead dog in browsers which followed the standards. Thusly, they were disadvantaging any other browser that was released onto the market, unless they spent hundreds of hours working to break its rendering as badly as IEs was.
"Vauxhall have a monopoly on Vauxhall cars, don't see any antitrust cases being brought about that do you? "
This poster is either being deliberately misleading or very trusting. AC@18:38 has it right. It is more like Ford "pre-installing" their CD/Radio, voiding their warranty if its not still there at service time and randomly replacing the one you bought every so often.
Internet Explorer is an application, like every other browser. No other OS is crippled (Core functions won't run properley) by removing it. Why should Windows be any different. MS do force you to use it by default and make its replacement and removal difficult (if not impossible).
Every other desktop supplier says not. You can change what you like. But only MS has mingled its functions in with its core DLLs.
I note most PC makers supply upteen ISP connection options on the hard drive. Anyone of which will hook you up to that ISP. But when its browsers what happens? Well you can have this option but its actually a page which has a link to their (other mfgs.) web site.
Its a monopolist tactic only viable for companies with a dominant market position and the deep pockets that gives them.
To make this truly level MS (and Apple) need to be stopped from the various cross-licensing tricks, a favourite MS tactic which they never seem to get tired of.
what would happen if (say) 4 different browsers were 1 click away from installation? well provided they all did proper uninstalls it might get quite interesting.
I'm seeing comments along the lines of "Ubuntu came with Firefox" as justification for Microsoft forcing IE on it's Windows OS customers.
a few obvious problems with that strange idea:
1) Microsoft was convicted of being a monopoly, this is the reason for the this whole shebang.
2) Ubuntu is NOT an OS. If you don't understand why, you're not qualified to push opinion as fact.
3) Ubuntu is *free*.
4) Here's a big one - Firefox is made by Mozilla, not the Ubuntu folks (Canonical).So whining about Firefox makes no sense.
Those who mention Apple might have had a point, if it weren't for number 1 in the little list above. As is stands, these folks are just plain lacking in the intelligence dept.
Paris, 'cos she's been in a lot of browsers.
In continental Europe it is quite common to impose stricter rules on a dominant player than on minor players, which explains why MS is targeted and not Linux or Apple: http://tech-no-media.blogspot.com/2009/04/eu-and-microsoft-culture-clash.html
An almost monopoly that tries to impose a proprietary standard that would keep out competition (which is what IE6 & IE7 actually are) should at least be investigated.
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Arizona sends Harvard home with a thump
Arizona 74, Harvard 51
For Arizona, it's on to Los Angeles.
And for Harvard — well, it's time to head back to class.
Clearly unfazed by their Ivy League opponent's plucky brand of Smartball, the Wildcats showed how a real basketball school does it Saturday. Mark Lyons matched his career high with 27 points in Arizona's wire-to-wire 74-51 blowout of the Crimson.
No. 6 seed Arizona's next stop in the NCAA tournament is southern California, where the Wildcats will make their 15th appearance in the regional semifinals. They'll play the winner of Sunday's game between Ohio State and Iowa State.
The day for No. 14 Harvard (20-10) was best summed up early in the second half when point guard Siyani Chambers took an elbow to the mouth from Kevin Parrom, who chipped off part of Chambers' front tooth. Officials stopped play and Chambers' teammate, Christian Webster, walked over, bent down and picked up the tooth fragment off the floor.
That felt nothing like Thursday, when Harvard pulled off an upset over a physically imposing New Mexico team — a stunner that riled up the Harvard twitterrati and sparked dreams of nets somehow being cut down with a slide rule.
Yes, Tommy Amaker's program could be redefining what's possible in the Ivy League.
But Arizona (27-7), a team that hasn't lost to an opponent outside of the Pac-12 this season, had too much height, too much speed, too much talent to be slowed by this Harvard team.
It was over early and a couple vignettes told the story.
Forward Solomon Hill (13 points, 10 rebounds) spotted up for a 3-pointer, drained it, then looped his fingers over his eyes — the 3-point goggles — right by the Harvard bench, in Amaker's face. On Harvard's next possession, Hill rebounded a missed shot, took the ball coast to coast and jammed with both hands, then bumped chests violently with Parrom.
Moments later, Lyons made a backdoor cut and took an alley-oop pass from Brandon Ashley for an easy layup.
Bad enough that happens to a defense once in a game. But on the next possession, Lyons and Ashley combined for an absolute carbon-copy of the same play.
Harvard shot 52 percent against New Mexico and would clearly need a repeat to keep this run going. The Crimson missed 20 of its first 22 shots for 9.1 percent. By that time, Arizona was up 30-9.
Remember Laurent Rivard, the Canadian guard who made five 3-pointers in Harvard's win to go with the six he made last year in the program's first appearance in the NCAAs since 1946? He shot 1-for-6 on Saturday, missing two early, then shooting two airballs in the second half. He finished with three points. Credit most of that to Parrom's blanket defense.
Chambers, the Harvard freshman, will have his own special memory of Arizona's senior guard.
The freshman was trying to make a jump pass, when Parrom left his feet, as well, to block it. His elbow bashed Chambers' lip and he grimaced in pain. Helped off the floor with the tooth in hand, he was wincing on the bench, where TV cameras caught a clear shot of his newly jagged right front tooth.
Chambers came back shortly after and made a 3. He finished with six points.
Kenyatta Smith, Harvard's tallest player at 6-foot-8, led the Crimson with 10 points. Harvard finished the game shooting 27 percent overall and from 3-point range.
Arizona made 55 percent of its shots.


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