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Victor Frost and someone else are there. Why?
I thought that there was a recent law. Are there exceptions?
Original post made by Suzie, another community, on Aug 27, 2007
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If you are waiting for Palo Alto to enforce its own laws, you will become old without satisfaction.
The best way to get rid of the bums downtown is to stop givng to them. Just say "no", then move on. Also, tell your local chruch that you do not want them enabling them, by becoming a magnet for services. Complain to the city council about the Opportunity Center (a big magnet). Complain to Whole Fodds that you will no longer shop there, if you have to face bums every day.
It won't happen any other way.
Why don't you stand right next to him for a day and explain to people why they should not give to him? I think that would be as worthwhile as any other volunteer activity.
The guy is running for City Council now. Why did citizens sign the petition to get his name on the ballot for the third time?
Why does the Palo Alto Police Department and City Council refuse to address the homeless problem anywhere in Palo Alto? The Council's idea of addressing the problem is to quickly approve a homeless shelter...a magnet for those whose occupation is begging - primarily on University Avenue. The Palo Alto Police Department's response is to begin a "Restorative Policing" program that is in reality a clear sign that they do not intend to address the homeless/begging problem at all. I see police officers walk right by homeless who are aggressive about everyone giving them money. The police act as if there isn't a homeless problem. City Council is in it's own world and doesn't even acknowledge the problem. I suggest every concerned citizen become active on this issue and let City Council know how you feel.
This is amazing - we go round and round about this. I was just in downtown Mountain View and reflected on how clean and inviting the downtown is compared to P.A.
Everyday while biking to and from work I pass a homeless man on a bench at the corner of Coleridge and Bryant. It is a strange site in such an affluent area of Palo Alto. Today he had bags on his feet and his cart seemed bigger than usual. It is pretty sad. When I see him sleeping there, I always wonder if he might be dead.
Every member of the council should take a homeless into their home.
What do you expect the police to do? The jails are all full. You live in a liberal community that built the Opportunity Center which attract the homeless. If you don't like it don't go Downtown, go to Mountain View or Menlo Park for your groceries.
That sounds like good advice, JT. What the heck is up with this place?
Victor Frost is a candidate for City Council; he is permitted to campaign.
Suzie, why don't you do something constructive about the problem of hoomelessness, instead of trying to sweep it out of your sight?
We enable this problem; by supporting the homeless, and allowing our government to run us, rather than us run it. The homeless can do anything they want, but don't let your dog off leash or let it bark too much. And yes, the soccer players can come from other cities, use our parks, leave behind trash, drink liquor, and crap and pee on the grounds. But if you live here don't ride your bike down the wrong side of the street, park backwards.......This homeless around here are a joke, our parks and sidewalks are full of them. ANd that guy on the bench along the bike boulevard, he just moved there a few months ago after being at the corner of Embarcadero and Alma. I think he compliments the neighborhood, and he is kind of sexy........
The problem is more than just sidewalks. Do not try to use the restrooms in the libraries, because they are usually occupied by the homeless. And do not let your kids go to the restrooms in the parks by themselves, and you better know why.
We have the people who pushed for the "Opportunity" Center to blame or thank (depending on your attitude toward the "homeless") for this ongoing fiasco and meltdown of civil society.
While most of the folks who agitated for the Opportunity Center were and are well-meaning, it defies common sense to think that a center designed to service people who are incapable of caring for themselves would not attract more of them to our city. Along with these legions of unfortunates comes the problems and culture which accompany them.
The mentally ill, substance abusing majority of the "homeless" deserve our sympathy. But it does them no favor to attract them to the middle of a high-tech economy with some of the highest living costs in the nation as the opportunity center does - just so those who advocate for the homeless can demonstrate their moral superiority and compassion.
What good does it do to house a few inebriates in the center when their compatriots sleep on benches near a tony girl's school, beg for money on the streets and end up committing petty crimes on our residents? Who benefits when their behavior drives people away from local businesses? What are we proving by having this army of people unable to adapt themselves to the requirements of modern urban life in our midst?
The people who pushed for the opportunity center have some explaining to do as to why they continue to support this misguided policy - even after its demonstrable failure.
Shame on the activists who have used these poor homeless souls to push their warped social vision. Shame.
The Opportunity Center was the brainchild of a group called "Community Working Group". You might be familiar with two people on its BoD: John Barton and LaDoris Cordell.
Web Link
The CWG webiste is full of self-congratulatory fluff, with no mention of the magnet effect. No surpirse.
Don't forget the Urban Ministry, which got this thing rolling.
the restroom issue concerns me - can't the police check on them periodically?
I went into a library restroom recently and was stunned to see the air steamy and a woman washing something in the sink. I didn't spend any time there. I glanced in the mirror and made a hasty retreat.
What do Mt View and Menlo Park do?
My fear is if we build a beautiful brand new library in Mitchell Park, it will become just another place for the homeless to hang out, and our tax dollars will be paying for it.
JT - excellent point. Before we vote on bonds to rebuild the Mitchell Park library, it would be nice to see the City keep the homeless out of the current Mitchell Park library.
Its nice to see sane people realize that the place with nearly the highest cost of living in the US isn't going to be the place that solves homelessness.
I'd bet any amount that if you had his circumstances since birth that you'd be just like him. Homeless does not mean bum. The title bum is reserved for those who are quick to judge. Do you know anyone like that? Hmmm?
Yes, it is a problem here in PA and MP. It is annoying to pass them on the way into the store. I always see people giving money so I don't think it will change. I know the hearts of those shoppers are in the right place. There just has to be a better way than direct cash. Adding to the problem is that giving money to a non-profit charity might pad the wallet of an overpaid director or some fancy fundraiser. I really wish I knew how to help.
I can't just give money away without knowing where it is going. For instance, the pastor of my church drives an Audi A8 L Quattro. There is no way I'm giving money to the church.
There is a way to help, Joanna. Work for the closing of the Opportunity Center.
This facility draws the homeless, the drug-addicted, and mentally ill to an area where they have virtually no hope of finding a community into which they can integrate successfully. The Opportunity Center is the brainchild of activists and non-profit employees who profit by having more of these people in our midst.
While I do not question the good will of many - even most - of the people who supported the Opportunity Center, it should be obvious to all except that the most ideologically-blinded that it isn't "solving" any problem, and in fact is making a bad situation worse as noted by Ben W. above.
If the Opportunity Center property were sold, the money generated could be put to uses that actually have a chance of helping out the few among the homeless who genuinely have the capacity and the will to improve their lives. None of these people have much chance of blending successfully into the local economy and community even if their mental and social problems were solved.
Let's get serious in our town. We need to condemn those who would use the innocent homeless as a "living theater" props to demonstrate their morally superior "caring" ways and as pawns to be used to generate more contributions and support for the local homeless industry they wish to expand.
I know this may be slightly off topic, but I think it is wrong of you to judge the Pastor of your church by the car he drives (or she). Most pastors, like the rest of us, live on a salary and can choose how to spend the salary the way they want. It may be that your pastor lives rent free, has very little in the way of dependents, and chooses a nice car as the one little luxury in life. That is I think quite appropriate.
If the church chooses to give its pastors very large salaries, then you can criticise the oversight. Most churches have to publish their accounts and they should be available to all church members. It may be that this particular church is not as scrupulous in others as to where its money is going.
Many churches do a very good job of being charitable with the money is is given for these purposes. They give where needed and generally their administration is working on a fixed budget for expenses which will remain the same regardless of how much money is donated by its membership and passed on to its charitable works.
Many people do donate to their churches and the money is passed on to where it is going without any problems. To smur the character of all by the passing observation of the car one particular pastor chooses for himself is doing the rest (and possibly this also) an injustice.
"I went into a library restroom recently and was stunned to see the air steamy and a woman washing something in the sink. I didn't spend any time there. I glanced in the mirror and made a hasty retreat."
Am I alone in my reaction to this, thinking Thank God I don't have a life where I have to do my laundry in a library restroom?
What did you think was going to happen to you in that restroom, Restrooms?
"I'd bet any amount that if you had his circumstances since birth that you'd be just like him. Homeless does not mean bum. The title bum is reserved for those who are quick to judge. Do you know anyone like that? Hmmm?"
Really? How do you know about "his" circumstances? How do you know about mine? Bums are bums first, homeless second. I know several bums with unbelievably advantaged circumstances, yet they chose to become bums.
What is a bum?
1. A tramp; a vagrant.
2. A lazy or shiftless person, especially one who seeks to live solely by the support of others.
The mental cases should be institutionalzied, period. The ACLU prevents this. Blame the ACLU.
The rest are bums. Do not feel sorry for them. They made their own bed, and the rest of us cannot afford to allow our downtowns to be polluted by them. Arrest them, and put them in tent camps on Santa Cruz Island (with no booze or drugs available). Allow them to grow their own crops, raise goats, etc.. No work, no food, period. If ACLU lawyers come to visit them on the island, make sure they work for their own food, too.
In the meantime, shut down the Opportunity Center. It is a MAGNET for bums.
Boy, Kevin, you seem to have a problem with the ACLU. In California, one of the prime reasons that there is no place for the mentally ill to go for treatment is that Ronald Reagan, when governer, shut down the institutions that took care of the most damaged and needy. His rationale was that the counties could take on the burden. They didn't.
I can't speak for the ACLU, but I believe they, in response to concerns by the mental health community about forced institutionalization without proper review or safeguards. These concerns had to do with people being committed who were not a danger to society or themselves, just victims of bad diagnoses or uncaring relatives.
The ACLU does work to defend your free speech and other constitutional rights, particularly when the governmental bodies who should be doing that infringe them.
Please investigate the work they do objectively, not through what appears to be an ideological filter.
And please, have some compassion for those less fortunate than yourself.
Not quite. Reagan wanted to save money; the left wanted to guarantee civil rights for those who cannot even understand the concept. The left said that half-way homes and drugs would take care of the problem. Reagan and the left cut a stupid deal. They were both at fault.
Rudy Giuliani broke the back of this vicious ideology, in NYC, by agreeing to provide shelter (at government expense), BUT he attacked the left, who were like you ("And please, have some compassion for those less fortunate than yourself"}. Rudy just arrested them, period. WHERE is the compassion, Peter, by leaving crazies and bums on the streets?
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One need not use the pejorative "bum" or be unsympathetic to the condition of the disheveled denizens begging from our downtown benches and washing their laundry in our public library restrooms to recognize that the situation regarding these unfortunates is spiraling out of control in Palo Alto.
Indeed a strong case can be made ON THE GROUNDS OF COMPASSION that we should close the Opportunity Center which attracts them to an area where they cannot possibly have a successful existence and use the money saved to relocate those of them who are salvageable to rural areas where they can work unskilled jobs that would allow them to support themselves at the lower cost of living in these areas. True, most of them still would require some support and intervention for their various problems and this also could be provided at lower cost in rural areas. And in these areas they would be apart from many (not all) of the temptations of urban living and in a less complex environment where they might find an easier existence.
For those who will not relocate voluntarily, and who still remain after the magnet of the Opportunity Center is removed, we should be firm that we do them no favors by allowing them to continue anti-social behavior. We should have strictly enforced laws to which they, like all others on our streets, must conform.
Mentally ill and substance abusers for the most part respond to incentives just like the rest of us. If there is "no place for them to go" as a result of this, perhaps more of them will be induced to get treatment or to accept the inducements to relocate to areas more amenable to life for those with limited social and economic skills.
Most of all, we should not permit the non-profit other "advocates" to play upon our sympathies in this matter. They enriching themselves and engaging in unseemly moral grandstanding at the expense of the very "homeless" they claim to advocate for. Enough is enough.
Years ago I offered a well known bum in Palo Alto a job. He refused. Since his sign said, "Will work for food", I took a chance. He came up with every excuse in the world to say "no". He is a BUM. Get over it, Ben. Bums are bums.
Here comes Wallis again with his caravansarie suggestion. Somewhere that homeless can have sanitry facilities and rudamentary shelter and minimal rules. And get off that Reagan closed the nut houses crap. Lawsuits and Liberal laws closed them.
Yeah, let's just ship the undesireables out of town and let someone else deal with them; we don't want to look at them. What about old people and maybe those loud kids we don't like on our streets. Oh, yeah, how about people with beards. Maybe you have a beard and would prefer to see the beardless shipped off.
Where does it stop?
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No one is suggesting that the homeless be 'shipped off'. Rather the goal is 1. to stop attracting them to an area where they have very poor prospects of integrating successfully into the economy and community by closing the magnet facility that draws them, and 2. to invite those capable of and desiring a better life to relocate to a place where they can perhaps make a go of it.
No one is suggesting anything coercive - unless you count enforcing the laws as they apply to everyone else as "coercive."
I still maintain that "bum" really is a word we shouldn't use for these people. I have no doubt that Kevin's experience happened. But the person he encountered doubtless has mental and/or substance abuse problems. A bigger problem is that he may have been led by the local homeless advocates to see begging and his homeless status as morally justified - and especially to view it as society's fault, not a condition of his own making.
Many of the "homeless", if properly incented would stop their antisocial activities. But here in Palo Alto, they're not only permitted to engage in self-abasing behavior, they're encouraged to revel in it by an activist core who see the existence of the homeless as condemnation of the larger society. The activists preen in their own sense of higher virtue because they "care" while the rest of us don't.
It is this attitude which is most harmful to the homeless, many of whom might be encouraged to develop better life habits (in the face of their disabilities) if their behavior were condemned by the larger society rather than validated by activists wishing to make a larger point about society.
Church Goer: Point well taken. Thanks. I guess it all comes down to personal opinions.
Kevin: I see what's happening. You are talking about those who don't make the best of their circumstances and any resources that are available to them, like the person who refused a job. I was referring to the entire population of homeless, and not restricting it to those who you talk about.
All I am saying is that unless you can walk in their shoes (impossible) then it is unfair to make that judgment. Serious mental illness can make an otherwise "good" person do and say things that just don't make sense, either to you or themselves. I say treatment first, opportunity presented second, and solution evaluation third.
Patty: Thanks for the tip. I'll look into it. You make a good point. I think most of us are good people who want to help. Some, like me, withold funds, but feel TERRIBLE because we really do want to help but don't want to make things worse. Some give money with the best of intentions. All of us have good intentions that we want to channel correctly. Maybe your suggestion is the way to go about it.
Ben W: I couldn't agree with you more. Intelligent solutions, which neither we nor the city practice/have, are necessary for effective change.
I think SUZIE ought to practice a little more compassion.
In the midst of all the problems facing the world today,
she wants to focus on panhandlers who congregate outside
of her spending spree mecca.
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Anon is wrong. The existence of other, or more important problems in the world than Palo Alto's homeless problem does not mean we cannot or should not deal with the latter.
It's very possible that through some concerted local action we can have beneficial effects on Palo Alto's homeless problem. It's less likely that we can do much about global weapons proliferation. (Even though we should vote for national leaders who take the issue seriously.)
To mock people who care about the plight of the homeless, and their effects on civil society is at best short-sighted myopia. At worst it reveals a mean-spirited mindset that if adopted by the public at large would result in a much less livable society - even if it were free of proliferated weapons.
Geez Louise!!!
All I did was wonder WHY there was still begging in front of Whole Foods. There IS a law against pan-handling in Palo Alto. I was just wondering......and the first answer from "Kevin" is the closest to the truth. As for all you mean-spirited folk...get a life!!
I spent some time with a rep. from Palo Alto PD recently. I asked him about a few things including the new "sit/lie" ordinance. He told me while the ordinance was reportedly passed they have been directed from city legal folks to not enforce it yet as there are still protocols to work out. He was equally frustrated with the lack of enforcement tools they have at their disposal to deal with the transient issues. He explained that they do their best to keep the peace downtown and other places where transients congregate but they are limited in what actions they can take. The officer, who seemed extremely versed on matters of law and constitutional rights, said there are very few enforceable statutes that can be applied to someone who is just loitering in a public place. He shared with me that unless they can determine the person is drunk in public, has outstanding warrants, etc. there is little they can do to physically arrest them. As far as the other matters of urinating in public, or soliciting in violation of a posted sign, these are acts the officer must witness on order to issue a citation. The only alternative is for citizens to volunteer to make a citizens arrest for something they witnessed. The officer told me that generally people are reluctant to do so for fear of retribution even though he has explained to people how remote that chance is. Making a citizens arrest isn't like in the movies he explained, it just means you have to get involved a little by signing a form, and being willing to testify in court (though a trial is unlikely in such minor matters.) The officer spoke of the seemingly ten fold increase he and his partners have seen in their response to Encina Ave and the surrounding areas since the Opportunity Center moved in. He said just in the past months, the Opportunity Center area is where they have been involved with foot pursuits with fleeing parolees, arresting crack cocaine users, a mentally disturbed suspect who broke in to a store with his bare hands. He also said that almost everyday they respond to the Opportunity Center for something be it a fight or what have you. I asked him what they normally do to combat the homeless problem and he said they respond to calls from the public about soliciting, or a person lying in the street, and if they can they take action. If they can issue the person a ticket or arrest them for something they do but often there isn't something they can take action against. I asked him if they refer people to other services and he said they have offered most of these people help via some pamphlets but most don't do anything with the advice. He said the department does it's best to help these people but their primary focus is law enforcement.
I noted how busy this officer and all the other offices I saw seemed so I asked about how their staffing is. He said that he believed they were short some officers and said that it is generally quite busy when he comes to work. He said they have difficulty dealing with the problems I was asking him about, all the wile dealing with the myriad of other problems in all the other parts of town. Honestly before I talked to this officer I was under the impression the police didn't really care about the homeless problem, but my opinion changed after speaking to this officer. I think the police can really only take action on what we the people have enacted in to law. I think when you live in a decent sized City like Palo Alto; there are lots of crimes that go on all the time, even when well informed citizens don't realize it. I think our police force is under staffed and could use a few more cops on the street. I'm not really interested in how many cops we have per capita compared with other cities in the area because I think our city is quite unique. I know for one, I would be happy to pay a little more to have some more cops on the street. I for one (please don't hate me for saying this but…) could do without a library or go without an art project downtown if it meant more officers would be on the street protecting us. After speaking with an officer from our police department I saw that this isn't a little town where no crime happens. This town has all the same crime problems as other decent sized cities. The cops I met seemed really smart and like they really like catching bad guys. I think we need to get whoever are the decision makers in City Council or the City's legal staff to give our cops some more tools they can use to enforce the sit/lie ordinance or whatever else will help them curb the homeless problem. There are only so many cops to go around and if we want them to be everywhere at once we should give them some more ordinances, put more of them on the street, and not be afraid to get involved if we can help.
If you have a minute, ask to speak with one of the officers we have. They will tell you what's really going on. I found it pretty interesting and you may as well.
Great post, Answer, and a very valuable addition to the discussion.
My read of your post is that this is more grist for those of us who say it is time to close the Opportunity Center. Not only does it attract problem people to our community, in doing so it also taxes our already over-burdened police force.
It should be noted that other cities don't have the kinds of problems Palo Alto does with transients. The biggest part of this is their lack of an Opportunity Center magnet. But I would be willing to bet that a large part also is that their police get clearer directions from the political branch about the proper way to handle homeless people who harass citizens. Their police likely don't have the 'sensitive' worry about enforcing even our feeble sit/lie ordinance Answer describes.
I witnessed a Mountain View officer dealing with a disheveled person near Castro street (at St. Joseph's Church). I don't think that person had any doubt about what would happen if he stuck around in Mt. View. He's probably panhandling on University Ave now.
Chuck, It's interesting you mention how a Mountain View officer dealt with a homeless guy. I actually watched my contact that I spoke to from Palo Alto Police dealing with some guys he stopped in a car. He was definitely was a take charge guy you are describing and an imposing figure. He plainly put the thugs he stopped in their place. I forgot to mention in my original post how my contact at PAPD told me an interesting story about what happens to them when they come on strong with the bums downtown. He said sometimes when they do take assertive action against the homeless they are berated by a passing citizens with words like "Don't you have anything better to do than pick on a poor homeless guy?" It seemed they were damned if they do and damned if they don't. I think that is why they rely heavily on what is legal and what is not. For instance, I doubt an officer can legally enforce a statement to a bum that you better get out of here or else. They probably are just saying that hoping to get rid of them. I think not only closing the Opportunity Center is a great idea, but also having people watch the way they speak to officers might be a good idea as well. If one has a complaint, perhaps take it up with the lawmakers and rule makers, not those we hired to enforce those rules. Maybe it's naive of me but I think the more officers there are, the more they will be able to deal with each issue that comes up. For instance, I thought their used to be a team of officer that dealt with just the downtown area. I think they worked on bicycles. My recollection is that budget cutbacks did away with this. PAPD does have a special crime suppression team but they are likely dealing with the myriad of other crimes in town. I am not advocating using our current allotment of officers in some new fangled downtown detail but rather think we should somehow advocate for the force to have more officers so they can develop other strategies for dealing with the homeless.
Back to the initial post-
The sit/lie ordinance doesn't stop beggin. it just menas you will have to stand
just thinking,
Bums won't stand very long...it takes too much effort. They sit and lie for long periods, then get on their feet, and in your face, when they see an easy mark coming their way.
How is it that Rudy Giuliani can clean up NYC, but our City Council hasn't a clue? Rudy understood that it was cruel to leave the mentally ill out on the streets. He also knew that the bums were no longer in charge, in NYC.
The first thing for everyone in PA to to do is to say "NO" when they are hit up for money. That would be a huge cultural change for PA. Nothing will happen until that cultural change takes place.
I usually don't have problems with PA bums, because I say no, then move on. If they get in my face, I get right back in their face. However, I had a rare experience, today, in Midtown, where I was confronted with a very aggressive, psycho-looking, hard ass bum that wanted money. I said "no". He said, "f*** you". I said, "What part of "no" you don't understand?". He walked away. I went into the store and did my business. When I came out, he was into it with another customer, who was entering the store. This time it was louder, but same basic result.
My question is: How do we know that these psychos do not have weapons? Are they on probabtion for violent crimes? Sex predators? On their meds? My impression is that these guys are becoming more aggressive. Are the police shaking down these guys, like they do in Mt. View? If not, why not? Do we need to wait for a murder, before we get them cleared outta here?
The mental cases need to be arrested and placed, against their will, in mental institutions. The rest of the bums should be arrested, and shipped out to a remote place. Like someone said, they can grow their own food. If they get testly with that opportunity, let them fight among themselves.
Above all, we need to shut down the Opportunity Center. It is a real magnet, and it it is serving to diminish middle-class life in Palo Alto.
Benjamin makes a good point about the danger these mentally unstable persons pose. If they could think clearly, they wouldn't be doing what they're doing. And yet, they're permitted to roam unfettered all over town. I know the guy camped out across from Casteleja School was still there a week ago. Will he still be there when the girls come back to school?! Just a month ago, we had the guy from the opportunity center bashing in windows at Town and Country.
It's just a matter of time before something tragic happens. It won't be difficult to figure out who to blame (for example, Web Link) , but it will be hard to fathom why it wasn't prevented in advance since it obviously is all but inevitable to anyone not blinded by ideology.
The Opportunity Center also houses many families - with kids in our school district. They are part of our community.
I personally have actually noticed fewer homeless downtown since the Opportunity center opened - mostly the "regular" who have been around for years (including shower cap man, currently hanging out near Castileja)
"The Opportunity Center also houses many families - with kids in our school district. They are part of our community. "
Yes, this is how the propaganda will play out. Save the women and babies. What's new? Most wars in history have circled around that pole.
I just want to save Palo Alto. The women and children can go to where they can afford to live. Same with the men. Same for me, if I cannot cut it in this city.
I defy PA mom, or anyone to show that more than a few (if any) of the denizens of the Opportunity Center were "part of the community" before they were attracted here by the OC. They mostly came from somewhere else - probably someplace where they might have fit better into the community.
The people, particularly the few (again, if any) families with kids in our schools, at the Opportunity Center are done no favor when they're invited to attempt to integrate into a community with Palo Alto's demographics. How are they going to be productive, or even participating, members of our community even if they are cured of their mental and addiction problems?! Are they going to ease into one of the million dollar homes they now camp out in front of? Are they going to get programming jobs at HP?
You people who agitated for the OC and continue to support its operation in town should be ashamed of yourselves. You are perpetuating the problems of the poor souls the OC attracts, and in many cases are making them them worse. Moreover, as many of the posts in this thread make clear, you increase the hostility toward these unfortunates by people who might have been otherwise sympathetic to some real solution as you've put the homeless in a situation which cannot help but lead to conflict with the rest of the population.
But I guess the point isn't to solve the problem. Rather it's to parade yourselves as "caring" in front of the rest of us to demonstrate your moral superiority. Who cares about the human props you use and abuse in the process. Shame on all of you.
Palo Alto Mom. Please read the posting by "answer to your question" that described the increase in crime around the Opportunity Center. This is a result foreseen by many.
Ben W. has some good points. Good intentions are not enough.
The City of San Francisco just threw out hundreds of homeless from encampments in Golden Gate Park. Where are they now, Palo Alto of course.
Which begs the question if SF can police their homeless, why can't we?
what are the chances of closing down the OC - a new, major facility? All we can hope is to minimize attracting outside people to this area, but what is the likelihood of that? I would have preferred this facility in a highly urban, higher population area.
Remove its (OC) use permit, since it failed to live up to its promises ("it will not be a magnet"). Convert it into administravtive offices for the police and public safety. Then the current police building will be able to be remodelled to accomodate active police services (jail cells, police cars, evidence holding, etc.).
This approach would reduce crime by eliminating the OC, and would cost a lot less than the proposed bond issue. In fact, if we want to demonstrate our outrage at the OC, we should DEFEAT the proposed bond issue for police/libraries! It would be a wake-up call.
Benjamin, your idea is outstanding! 2 birds, 1 stone.
Sorry to say it will never happen in PA though.
Thanks for the good stuff Answer to your Question!
Cops are humans too, sounds like.
It's easy to forget sometimes.
Suzie: I have been trying to get a life, thanks!
Any suggestions where to find one?
Also, I only bit your head off because you jumped in the pool.
Where are you today? Sounds like your llfe is so rewarding that you
must be doing something wonderful, not sitting around outside of 7-11.
<i>the restroom issue concerns me - can't the police check on them periodically?</i>
we don't have any bigoted/closeted Republican politicians here, do we?
as for wanting to see change, there are plenty of things you can and possibly even should do - so do them.
i suspect getting rid of that massive dude outside of whole foods would see the store's revenues increase by a couple of percent - something they'd be quite happy about. so, get some sigs, talk to the store mgmt, have them work a deal w/ the dude on the down-low, whatever - get creative - it's easy to envision lots of situations where all parties win. besides, everyone should take a shot at 'activism' - might give people an appreciation for how much (often unpaid) work goes into making things change.
i'm not crazy about seeing homeless folks all over the streets of pa, either, but i figure it's a good reminder - if i feel bad about it, then shame on me for not doing more - and shame on you and every member of this community who hasn't done more. if you're 'too busy' paying for that BMW, whose fault is that? lots of towns are experimenting with completely eliminating homelessness (Web Link) - can anyone really make themselves believe that Palo Alto's citizens are too dumb/selfish/cheap/poor to solve this isssue? I'm not buying it.
if people started to forcibly remove peaceful folks, though, i'd be on the side of the homeless people every time - and let the bums get what they will.
i saw that big dude reach into his car the other day - i was like, 'wow - dude has a car'. :D
and i saw this quote on overheardinnewyork.com the other day about a homeless person and weed - pretty funny.
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"i'm not crazy about seeing homeless folks all over the streets of pa, either, but i figure it's a good reminder "
Peter's quote gives voice to the complaint above that the homeless are being used as props to raise consciousness in others by the activists in town.
The mentally disturbed people that the Opportunity Center draws in town are Palo Alto's "problem" only because they have been attracted here by the policies of Peter and his like-minded compatriots in the homeless industry.
Palo Altans aren't selfish, poor, or cheap, but many in Palo Alto's establishment were duped by the homeless advocates when they approved the Opportunity Center.
As the posts in this thread show, a common reaction to the truly mentally ill panhandlers as well as to the Whole Foods grifter Peter describes is hostility. That's misdirected. The hostility should not be directed at the homeless, but toward activists [portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff] who would use these people to try to "remind" and "shame" us for a problem that THE ACTIVISTS CREATED by opening the Opportunity Center = which as is clear, has become a staging area for Palo Alto's growing cohort of panhandlers.
We can do something about the problem Peter describes: close the Opportunity Center and redirect the people drawn here to a place where they actually have a chance to make something out of their lives, or for those who cannot be expected to ever be productive citizens, to mental health facilities.
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Thank you Ben W, that is an interesting perspective. What role does the city play in the Opp Center? Does the city fund it? How long has the Opp Center been in place? Are there any qualifications for receiving services there ("residency," which of course is problematic for the truly homeless?) or can anyone come (in which case it is truly a regional magnet?
It does remind me some of the "squeegee" men in New York in the '80s. They were truly a quality of life problem/scam, though they drew sympathy in the early days since some were homeless and/or mentally disturbed. When the city decided they'd had enough, it was a fairly easy problem to solve (police enforcement) and they disappeared quickly. I imagine the same would be true in PA too.
I think Fred is right. No other city on the Peninsula has the homeless problems that Palo Alto does. The residents of these cities won't put up with it. In San Francisco and Berkeley, the homeless have seriously affected the quality of life. Residents in these towns tolerate and in some cases perversley welcome the pandhandlers on their streets.
Which way is Palo Alto going? We don't HAVE to do anything about this growing problem, but we can. Do we have the political will and moral fortitude to tell the activists they are wrong?
"This approach would reduce crime by eliminating the OC..."
I like your idea of using the OC as a police office, but where do you get the facts of crime?
Do those guests of the OC increase crime in PA? Are they involved in any kind of crime? I assume you mean something other than the loitering on the sidewalks issue.
Let us not forget that these are human beings who have some kind of mental illness. While I am leaning towards closing down the OC, it is not just because I want "them" outta my neighborhood. I want a viable option to help them. It seems that the OC isn't doing its job.
I'm kind of ignorant on the subject. What does the OC do?
Thanks for your thoughtful response and questions, Joanna. You show that it's possible to be concerned about the fate of the people attracted to Palo ALto by the Opportunity Center, and realistic about what the OC is doing to exacerbate the problems these people already have living stable lives, and the problems other citizens have in town because of the actions of the homeless.
Unfortunately, the crimes committed by the OC habitues are not limited to loitering, panhandling and minor harassment of passersby on the streets (to the extent that those are crimes at all in Palo Alto). Forum poster Answer relates his discussion with members of the Police Department about the issue and indicates the OC is a significant user of Police Resources. Of course there was the recent example of the OC resident who went on a mini-rampage at Town and Country. (Web Link).
This is not surprising to anyone thinking logically about the issue and not wearing ideological blinders. You can't put mentally unstable, substance abusing social misfits in the middle of an expensive professionally oriented suburb, next to a pricey shopping center and near a high school without expecting problems. Right now we have a homeless guy camped across the street from Castileja School.
It is only a matter of time before something much more serious than burglary and window breaking happens because of the presence of these poor souls in our community. Many of the "Homeless" have poor impulse control, which is why they are in the situation they are in. Why in the world would we attract them to a place where they have no hope of living in a stable way - a place with all the distractions and temptations of Palo ALto?
You're right: close the Opportunity Center. That's the best first step toward helping the homeless.
Joanna says, "What does the OC do?"
1. Serves as a staging area for daily panhandling escapades into the wider community.
2. Acts as a magnet for homeless persons region-wide, who bring their problems with them.
3. Serves to increase dependency on the larger society of those who show up for its handouts of "caring" services.
4. Induces guilt in knee-jerk Palo Altans.
5. Serves to demonstrate self-righteous sense of superior moral sentiments among those who agitated for it.
"I like your idea of using the OC as a police office, but where do you get the facts of crime?"
Palo Alto is very careful about how it reports "crimes". You can view the official statistics at Web Link . Only certain crimes are listed. The police log only lists ten days. If you can find statistics related to the OC,you are better than me! A simple data base of all REPORTS of crimes, along with location and addresses of arrests or citations would be useful, but you will not find such useful data in PA. Why? Because avaerage PA citizens might begin to get the picture, and draw conclusions.
Let me provide an example. A woman is shopping downtown, and an aggressive bum approaches her for $$. She feels intimidated, and wants to stay safe, so she quickly reaches into her purse and pulls out some change. She sees a cop, and tells him/her "I was intimidated by a homeless person, and felt I had to given him money". The cop says, "Mamm, I didn't see it. Are you claiming that you were verbally assaulted? If so, can you give me a description, and agree to participate in a citizen's arrest?" She says, "I don't think so". And the game goes on. No report filed.
Here's another example, one that I have seen many times. A drunken bum is pissing on a wall in public. I don't even bother reporting it. Why should I? Nothing will be done about it. I just avoid shopping downtown.
Joanna, "Answer", who rode around with the police officer is telling the truth. Encina Ave. is now a greater locus of crime than prior to the OC.
If we shut down the OC, and convert it to police/safety offices we will be MUCH better off. If this is opposed by the City Council, or if the CC refuses to acknowlege the magnet problem with the OC, then we citizens should simply vote AGAINST the police/library bond issue! Ladorris Cordell and John Burton will not understand any other language.
Some posters have said that they can't get any reliable stats from Palo Alto PD on if there is a big upswing in crimes because of the OC. I think you can, but you have to look a little broader. Look at arrests that are made in that area (medical center, T&C) train station, etc) and not just at the actual address of the OC. That will give you a better picture. Also, I bet if you organized a request to the PD they would pretty much bend over backwards to give you whatever they can legally hand you. I don't rally buy in to the "the police will hide the stats so you will keep shopping there" conspiracy theory. I have found them doing just the opposite. They seem to be as transparent as they can while still operating under certain laws that dictate how they release info.
"the restroom issue concerns me - can't the police check on them periodically?"
I don't think the police are concerned as neither of the U.S. Senators live locally. ;^)
I am not sure how unlawful it is to wash out an item of clothing in a library bathroom, although it might be unpleasant. So, what point is there in calling the police? If a young child has an "accident", it would be quite proper for the mother to rinse out soiled clothing as long as it was being done hygienically, so where is the line to be drawn. This sounds a bit discriminatory to me.
Resident is right. It <i>would</i> be discriminatory to police the homeless at the point where they're using the library restrooms as their personal laundry...and hard to draw lines. It's hard to draw fine lines around much of the anti-social behavior of the mentally ill substance abusers that wander around town. (Look at the guy wrapped up in newspapers and rags who's been sleeping on the on the bench at the corner of Churchill and Bryant for the last month: how do you distinguish him from a person taking a rest from his walk around town?)
But it's not hard to draw a line around the big picture problem: we have all these weird, uncomfortable, and sometimes dangerous things happening in our town because a few activists convinced pliant city leaders to approve the Opportunity Center. And so we put up with this menagerie of strange and disgusting behavior, but more importantly, these poor people have been drawn to an area where they cannot possibly hope to integrate into the social structure - making their already bad problems much, much worse.
Close that damn place now!!
I know this is off-topic and I should mind my own business, but I am very curious about one man I see walking around Palo Alto, mostly near Embarcadero and E. Bayshore Drive. He is an older man with a beard and he often wears uniforms (like Naval uniforms) and other very formal clothes. He also has a suitcase with wheels. At first, I just thought he was someone coming home from the airport, but he always has that suitcase with him. I hate to jump to the conclusion that someone is homeless so I am just not sure what to think of this man. Thanks
It is not helpful to create imaginary scenarios to make a point. I did not check what the woman was washing in the sink. Maybe she was washing herself. It most certainly was not a diaper, which a sensible woman rinses in the toilet, not in the sink. No children are involved in the incident.
The room was steamy and I backed out quickly the way one would if one had accidentally opened a toilet door.
The unpleasantness for librarians who have to deal with these people daily is a real problem, not a hypothetical one.
If anyone is using scenarios to make a point, I think it may be you.
The point I made, was that there may be a good reason for someone (not your homeless person) rinsing through an article of clothing in the sink. It isn't every kind of accident that needs to be first rinsed through in the toilet before being rinsed in the sink.
So, what do we do, put up a sign asking people not to rinse clothing in the sink. Do we ask people not to wash their hair in the sink. What about applying make up.
No, my point is that we cannot stop regular library users and probably employees from occasionally doing something that they may do in the bathroom at home. If you want to draw the line somewhere about what may or may not be correct, you have to be very careful. There is no point trying to prevent every homeless person using the library and their restrooms for whatever purpose. It isn't a crime to be homeless so getting the police to stop them doing the same things as the rest of us are doing is not going to help.
"There is no point trying to prevent every homeless person using the library and their restrooms for whatever purpose. It isn't a crime to be homeless so getting the police to stop them doing the same things as the rest of us are doing is not going to help."
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The vagrants can and should be arrested on public health issues. It is completely cruel to leave them out there on their own, even if they are deluded enough to think that they are OK. I can tell that you will not agree, but here is a bottom line that might get your attention:
DEFEAT the library bond! Let City Council know that we PA taxpayers do NOT want a library full of unsanitary vagrants. Let the council figure it out...until then do NOT feed the beast.
Had Enough
Yes, I do agree with you, funnily enough. I hate seeing the homeless around, I hate smelling them, I am to some extent scared of them and I hate having to explain the issues to my young children. But, there are some things that they can't be expected to stop doing. Sleeping in doorways, park benches, etc. yes, that should be stopped. But, using public restrooms in an orderly manner, now come on. We have to accept that we may not like what they are doing and having to share the restrooms with them, but I can't see an ethical reason for preventing them.
I would rather them use the restroom than the doorway I am about to cross.
Resident is right: it is often very difficult to make legal distinctions between the uncivil actions of the homeless, and the typical normal use of public facilities.
But it's not difficult to figure out why we're forces to confront the idea of making these legal distinctions so often of late. The Opportunity Center has drawn people who have difficulty conforming their behavior to community norms to a place where they have no hope of fitting in to the community. They are not helped by this kind of do-goodism.
The problems Had Enough and Resident complain of can be reduced substantially by one action: CLOSE THE OPPORTUNITY CENTER.
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The embargo lifted on Surface Windows 8 Pro or as I will call it, Surface Pro, reviews and out of the gate, most tech news sites had a "meh" conclusion. The device, they claimed, is neither a great tablet nor a great Ultrabook. Hence, their take away was that it is not a good device for either use case. A few sites mentioned that it is not for all, but for those who need such a device, it is a great one for them.
Who is the target customer for such a device? Is it a big enough market for Microsoft to pursue, or is it a niche that may explode in the future?
First, let's remove the obvious non-market. This device is not for those who have truly moved into the "post-PC era" and are ok using just a tablet for their computing needs. It means they either don't need programs that need a "computer", or they have decent alternatives available in the tablet's app marketplace to accomplish all their computing on the tablet. For such a market (many of the tech writers may be in this category, since most of their work is writing and with decent keyboard attachments, they can somehow make it work), a tablet like the iPad with a much lower cost and a much better battery life may easily be a better choice than the Surface Pro.
Surface Pro is also not for those who don't mind carrying two devices around, or having two devices in general. They have a computer, perhaps even an actual desktop PC, where they do all their work. In addition, they have a tablet where they do most of their "play", and have some sort of connectivity established to their workplace email so they can keep on top of email while they are away from the office. These folks are perfectly ok with two separate devices because they may not be carrying both around much.
There is an important market though, which many/most of the reviewers failed to recognize, either due to ignorance or oversight. The typical office worker. Millions of employees around the world are handed a laptop when they join a company. Earlier, it used to be dull Windows PCs from a single supplier. Nowadays the choice has expanded to include Macs as well. However, many of these office workers also carry tablets around the office because they don't want to or they don't need to carry their PCs around to conference rooms and to meetings. These folks will absolutely love the Surface Pro (especially the ones who did not choose a Mac :-)).
For the office worker, the Surface Pro provides a powerful PC for all they do at their desk, but instead of leaving the PC at the desk and carrying a separate tablet to meetings, or to use at home for "play", they can have the same device for both those purposes. Since the "work PC" is normally plugged in, the lower battery life of Surface Pro compared to the iPad would not be a big factor. Also, since the device won't be used purely as a tablet, the slightly higher weight compared to most tablets would also not be a concern.
On the other hand, having one device instead of two would be a benefit in favor of the Surface Pro. The Surface Pro would weigh less than the combined weight of a PC and a tablet, and because it is one machine, the office worker would not need to keep shuttling files between the two devices with or without the cloud. Also, there would be no issues about apps and application compatibility and maintaining document fidelity. All these are important considerations for many, many employees around the world. Needless to say, there were many on the Surface Pro team's Reddit Ask Me Anything thread who claimed that they would be getting a Surface Pro (or their company is testing the device for mass deployment, or as one person said, it would be great to load Linux and use it!).
From the CIO's perspective, the Surface Pro offers an ideal solution to the BYOD movement. Since it runs Windows, it is a highly manageable device, and it would work with all the existing management infrastructure. The CIO gets to sleep at night, and the employees get something that is thin, light and works for work and works for play.
There may be other scenarios too, where the Surface Pro may work quite well, but I focused mostly on the biggest piece of the pie, the enterprise worker.
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The change, which comes into effect on Feb. 1, 2013, affects only Telus customers who use the company's land-line internet service, which is available in Alberta and British Columbia.
Users of the Telus High-Speed service will see their upload and download cap reduced to 100 gigabytes per month from the current 150 gigabytes. Users of its highest-level service — Telus High Speed Turbo 25 — will see their download caps halved, to 250 gB from the current 500 gB. (A complete list of the new bandwidth caps is available at the Telus website.)
Telus senior communications manager Shawn Hall told The Huffington Post the changes are being put in place "to better manage internet investment," and added the company's bandwidth caps are high enough that even the heaviest bandwidth users "have more than enough."
Hall said that, unlike some other internet providers, Telus doesn't actually charge customers overage fees for exceeding their caps. Users who exceed their caps are encouraged to switch to a higher service plan.
But the changes have unleashed a wave of anger at Telus on social media, with commenters on news site Reddit echoing now-familiar complaints about Canada's internet infrastructure.
"Technology usually becomes more available and cheap as time moves on. We're in a backwards time warp," commenter Cerulilly wrote.
"This is a perfect example of the non-competitive bulls--t we have to put up with. Where's the CRTC in this? Isn't it part of their job to ensure a competitive marketplace?" asked commenter nachochease. "I hope people switch away from Telus in droves to show the big telcos that we're not sheep who are willing to pay top dollar for garbage service."
Commenters wondered whether the point of the change was to limit usage of Netflix, the streaming movie and TV service that competes with telecom firms' on-demand TV services. Telus offers satellite TV service and Optik TV, a TV service through the internet that offers on-demand movies and shows.
Netflix now reaches at least 10 per cent of Canadians and accounts for about a third of Internet traffic in the country.
Netflix itself has expressed frustration with internet access in Canada. Ted Sarandos, the company's chief content officer, recently said at a conference that Canadians "have almost third-world access to the internet" because of high prices, a relative lack of competition, and bandwidth caps.
"It's almost a human rights violation what they're charging for internet access in Canada," he said.
But Telus argues it has been improving internet service for its customers, pointing out the company has invested $30 billion into its internet infrastructure since 2000.


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Weekly Entertainment Guide – International House celebrates 100 years, 'Priscilla Queen of the Desert,' and Parsons Dance
Looking for something to do this week? WHYY's Robin Bloom has some recommendations on what's happening in the Philadelphia region. Here are her picks:
International House Philadelphia opens its first permanent historical exhibit, "IHP: The First 100 Years," celebrating its role in the Philadelphia community over the past century. The display includes photographs, correspondence, newsletters and press clippings, documenting the residential services and social programming that has distinguished IHP among organizations that advocate for cultural exchange, open dialogue, and progressive thinking. Join the free opening celebration, Thursday, February 28, 6pm, with an evening of cocktails, hors d'oeuvres and live music by The Gatsby Brothers, 3701 Chestnut Street, Philadelphia. RSVP required.
InLiquid at the Painted Bride Art Center presents "Portraying Kinship," showcasing the artwork of Kim Alsbrooks and Helen Mirkil. Alsbrooks' exhibit, "My White Trash Family," explores social class and consumer culture through detailed portraits painted on flattened beverage cans and other packaging (pictured: "Martha Washington"). Mirkil's paintings call back to late 19th Century masters like Vincent Van Gogh and Edgar Degas. The exhibit runs through March 17, 230 Vine Street, Old City, Philadelphia.
"Deep in the Weeds" at Morris Arboretum
"Deep in the Weeds," a new exhibit showcasing the photography of Rob Cardillo, is on display at the Morris Arboretum's Upper Gallery, featuring thirty photographs of roadside weed patches, native plant communities and well-tended garden beds where the abstract beauty of nature interplays with shape, color and light. For over twenty years, Cardillo, a local artist, has professionally photographed gardens and their inhabitants and his work has appeared in Country Gardens, Organic Gardening, and The New York Times. Free with garden admission, the opening reception will take place Sunday, March 17, 1-3pm, 100 E. Northwestern Avenue, Philadelphia.
The Mojo Gypsies perform at The Twisted Tail this Friday, February 22, 9pm-1am, with Flourtown Fats on upright bass, Mark Shewchuk on drums, "Professor" Dave Orban on guitar and vocals, and Russ Lambert on harmonica and vocals, playing a show of old school blues, original tunes, and more, 509 South 2nd Street, Philadelphia.
Mendelssohn Club of Philadelphia joins forces with the Black Pearl Chamber Orchestra and pianist Ching-Yun Hu in a concert that celebrates the legacy of Beethoven. The program features "Choral Fantasy," "Fidelio Overture," and "Symphony No. 2" as well as the world premiere of Jeremy Gill's companion piece, "Before the Wresting Tides," Saturday, February 23, 7:30pm and Sunday, February 24, 4pm, Philadelphia Episcopal Cathedral, 3723 Chestnut Street, Philadelphia.
Al-Bustan Seeds of Culture's Arab Music Concert Series continues with the Philadelphia premiere of "Roads to Damascus," a collaboration by cellist and composer Kinan Abou-afach and visual artist Kevork Mourad, two Syrian artists who explore the history of their hometown. With roots in Arabic music, the multimedia experimental work features seven pieces where Mourad draws spontaneously as Abou-afach recreates memories of the city through music, illustrating Syria's cultural richness and current conflict, Saturday, February 23, 8pm, Trinity Center for Urban Life, South 22nd Street, Philadelphia.
"Urinetown" at Lehigh University
Lehigh University's Department of Theatre performs the Tony Award-winning musical "Urinetown" by Mark Hollmann, opening this weekend through March 2. In the humorous satire inspired by the works of Bertolt Brecht and Kurt Weill, a terrible water shortage cripples a Gotham-like industrial city and forces the government to ban the use of private toilets. A special workshop with Broadway composer and lyricist Mark Hollmann will examine his career and the evolution of his musical. Directed by Pam Pepper with music direction by Bill Whitney and choreography by Lynn Weiner, Diamond Theater, 420 E. Packer Avenue, Bethlehem, PA.
"Priscilla Queen of the Desert"
Join three friends on the road trip of a lifetime in the Australian outback as "Priscilla Queen of the Desert" rides in to the Academy of Music, Tuesday, February 26 through March 3, 240 S. Broad Street, Philadelphia, as part of the Kimmel Center's Broadway series.
Storybook Musical Theatre's "Robin Hood"
Storybook Musical Theatre presents a mad-cap children's musical version of "Robin Hood" at the Mitchell Performing Arts Center from Tuesday, February 26 through March 10, Tomlinson and Buck Roads, Bryn Athyn, PA.
Internationally-acclaimed Parsons Dance returns to Philadelphia with two premieres along with David Parsons' masterpiece "Caught," and "In the End," a dance choreographed to honor Dave Matthews with performances Wednesday, February 27 through Saturday, March 1 at Annenberg Center, as part of Dance Celebration's 30th anniversary season, Zellerbach Theatre, 3680 Walnut Street, Philadelphia. Pre-show talk back on March 1.
New City Stage Company's "Hurlyburly"
Onstage Thursday, February 28 at New City Stage Company is "Hurlyburly," the Philadelphia premiere of the groundbreaking play by award-winning playwright and screenwriter David Rabe. Searching for meaning in their isolated lives, two casting directors attempt to provide a home for their friends and a runaway girl amidst the decadent, perverse cocaine culture of 1980s Hollywood. Rabe was the first graduate of Villanova's Masters in Theatre program and won a 1972 Tony Award for Best Play for "Sticks and Bones." James J. Christy and Ginger Dayle, also Villanova graduates, direct the production starring Russ Widdall (RFK, The Wire), onstage at the Adrienne Theater Main Stage through Sunday, March 24, 2030 Sansom Street, Philadelphia.
Shakespeare's "Hamlet" opens at the Roselle Center for the Arts Thursday, February 28, performed by the Resident Ensemble Players of the University of Delaware. Mark Lamos directs the classic drama of revenge, deception, and corruption, through March 17, 110 Orchard Road, Newark, DE.
"Twelfth Night" by BAMA Theatre Company
The New Jersey State Theatre presents the BAMA Theatre Company (alumni from the Alabama Shakespeare Festival) with an inventive version of "Twelfth Night," capturing the humor and lyricism of Shakespeare's most beguiling comedy, Thursday, February 28 through Saturday, March 2 at Crossroads Theatre, 7 Livingston Avenue, New Brunswick, NJ.
"Dancing through Black History"
Dancer and choreographer Roger Lee performs "Dancing through Black History," a program exploring themes of segregation, civil rights, and integration, Thursday, February 28, 7pm, Lenfest Theater in the Kaleidoscope Performing Arts Center, Ursinus College, Collegeville, PA.
Alchemy Dance Company takes on ambitious choreography with the world premiere of "I Am We" and "Follies," Friday through Sunday, March 1-3, at The Performance Garage. Choreographed from the dancer's feelings, the production focuses on internal struggles and connections between people. Founded in 2007 by Artistic Director Amy Harding, the company of six dancers and two directors is committed to producing accessible high quality dance experiences, 1515 Brandywine Street, Philadelphia.
Other events and listings throughout the region:
Center City Opera Theater presents a Hispanic and Spanish Opera Cabaret, as part of their Latino Audience Development. CCOT's Young Artists explain and perform music by composers Daniel Catan, Hector Armienta, Osvaldo Golijov, and more, while celebrating Spanish Zarzuela, Friday, February 22, 8pm, Saturday, February 23, 8pm, and Sunday, February 24, 2pm, Prince Music Theater's Independence Black Box Theater, 1412 Chestnut Street, Philadelphia.
The Lewis Center for the Arts' annual Spring Dance Festival is Friday, February 22, 8pm, Saturday, February 23, 2pm and 8pm, and Sunday, February 24, 1pm, a three day festival showcasing over 50 students performing repertory works by internationally renowned choreographers Merce Cunningham, Mark Morris, Karole Armitage, and Zvi Gotheiner, as well as new dances by Raja Kelly and Laura Peterson. The Festival takes place at the McCarter Theatre Center, 91 Princeton, Place, Princeton, NJ.
The 30th Street Craft Market (postponed from February 9) is Saturday, February 23, 11am-5pm, highlighting 30 local artists and craftspeople offering jewelry, knits, prints, glassware, ceramics, and more at the 30th Street Station, Philadelphia.
The 2nd annual Bierfest returns the German Society of Pennsylvania Saturday, February 23, 1pm-5pm, offering German-style beer from Pennsylvania and Germany, German cuisine, bluegrass music by the Keystone Mountain Boys, a "German Import Lounge" with rare, imported beer, and plenty of entertainment. Over sixteen Pennsylvanian brewers will be participating in Bierfest, including Lion Brewery, Straub Brewery, Yuengling & Sons Brewery, and more, 611 Spring Garden Street, Philadelphia.
The family-friendly concert series, "Concerts for Kids and Their Grown Up Friends," begins its second season with "The Magic of Strings" at Trinity Center for Urban Life, featuring Astral Artists on viola, violin, and cello, with a post-show ice cream social, Saturday, February 23, 1:30pm, 2212 Spruce Street, Philadelphia.
Singing City Choir performs "A Wonderful World" at the First Baptist Church this Saturday, February 23, 7pm. The program is a collection of 20th century songs that take a step back to enjoy the awe-inspiring beauty of the world. Singing City will be joined by SC Children's Choir and the Northeast High School Choir with guest conductor Chris Windle, 17th and Sansom Streets, Philadelphia.
History and music combine this Sunday, February 24, as Commonwealth Youthchoirs hosts three performances of "The Good Raised Up: A Story of Community, Integrity, and the Road to Freedom." Sung by the members of Keystone State Boychoir, Pennsylvania Girlchoir, and others, the choral work tells the true story of a 1850s Quaker family who protected a group of escaped slaves from capture. The performance takes place right where the story occurred, Philadelphia's only intact stop on the Underground Railroad: the Johnson House. Show times are at 2pm, 2:45pm, and 3:30pm, 6303 Germantown Avenue.
Old songs become new in 11th Hour Theatre Company's "Philly Rocks, Remixed," Monday, February 25, 6pm at World Café Live. Sold out for the past seven years, the annual rock concert revamps favorite songs with top Philadelphia performers. Hosted by Jess Conda and featuring Alex Bechtel, Melissa Bird, Rachel Camp, Laura Catlaw, Colleen Hazlet, Marissa K. Hines, Alex Keiper, Mikey Jr., Craig O'Brien, Megan Nicole O'Brien, Michael Philip O'Brien, and Steve Pacek, 3025 Walnut Street, Philadelphia.
Symphony C performs "Mendelssohn and Schumann," Friday, March 1, 8pm at The College of New Jersey. Music Director Rossen Milanov leads the performances of Mendelssohn's "Overture to Midsummer Night's Dream," local area composer and winner of the 2004 Pulitzer Prize in Music, Paul Moravec's "Violin Concerto" with violinist Maria Bachmann, and Robert Schumann's "Second Symphony," Mildred and Ernest E. Mayo Concert Hall, 200 Pennington Road, Ewing, NJ.
"Who Will Carry the Word?," a drama based on the true story of Holocaust survivor Charlotte Delbo and her experience sharing an Auschwitz barracks with 19 other women, takes the stage at Rowan University's Westby Black Box Theatre. The goal of the women is simple yet important: keep the strongest alive so someone can give an account of the horrors witnessed in the camp. Dr. Anthony Hostetter directs through March 3, Rowan University, Route 322 in Glassboro, NJ.
Mel Brooks' Tony Award-winning musical satire "The Producers" is onstage at the New Candlelight Theatre through March 17 on the Main Stage, 2208 Millers Road, Ardentown, DE. Show includes a buffet meal served by the actors and crew.
Brett Rader and Sarah Pike contributed reporting to this week's guide.
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