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New Mexico Bankruptcy Guide
- Step 1: Learn How to File Bankruptcy in New Mexico - (Filing)
How Do I File for Bankruptcy in New Mexico?
Steps for filing bankruptcy in New Mexico, from learning whether you qualify, to completing and filing bankruptcy forms, to discharging your debts and getting on with your life.
Bankruptcy Means Test for all New Mexico counties
A mathematical formula—called the means test—determines whether you qualify for Chapter 7 Bankruptcy in New Mexico.
What Are My Alternatives to Filing for Bankruptcy in New Mexico?
If your creditors will negotiate, if bankruptcy can't cancel most of your debts, or if you're truly broke, bankruptcy may not be the best solution for you. Here's how to decide.
How Does Chapter 7 Bankruptcy Work in New Mexico?
How Chapter 7 bankruptcy can help you cancel your debts, protect your exempt property, and stop bill collectors.
How Does Chapter 13 Bankruptcy Work in New Mexico?
You can use Chapter 13 bankruptcy to get out from under the burden of your debts, protect important property, and stop bill collectors.
How Much Does It Cost to File for Bankruptcy in New Mexico?
Tips for keeping bankruptcy costs down, from court filing fees to mandatory counseling costs to getting legal help.
Where Do I File for Bankruptcy in New Mexico?
Most people file for bankruptcy in the federal district court closest to where they've lived for the past six months.
- Bankruptcy Filing FAQ - (FAQ)
What are the different kinds of bankruptcy?
This site focuses on Chapter7 and Chapter 13. But there are also chapters 11, 12, 9, and 15
Glossary of Important Bankruptcy Terms
From Adversary proceeding to Wage garnishment
Do I qualify for bankruptcy?
To qualify for Chapter 7 bankruptcy, you must pass the means test, which compares your household income to the median income in New Mexico for a household your size.
Secured debt vs. unsecured debt: What's the difference?
Bankruptcy helps you get rid of unsecured debt. It does not eliminate secured debts, where you have pledged collateral for a loan, such as a car loan or a mortgage. When you file bankruptcy you must declare what you intend to do about your secured debts.
Do I need a lawyer to file for bankruptcy?
The law does not require to have a lawyer, and if your case is simple and you have few assets, you can successfully file a Chapter 7 bankruptcy yourself. Chapter 13? Not so much. And if you have property to lose, or you're not great with details, getting a lawyers help can be a good idea, no matter what kind of bankruptcy you're filing. Also a lawyer may find ways to help that you haven't' thought of
Where do I file for bankruptcy?
Bankruptcy is federal law and you file in the local Federal District Bankruptcy Court. Find out yours.
Can I get free bankruptcy forms?
The US government makes PDF bankruptcy forms available for free. We'll tell you which ones you need and links to download them.
What are bankruptcy exemptions?
Asset protection is an important benefit of bankruptcy. Exemption laws are the laws that let you protect certain assetss from creditors. Every state has different exemptions. Some states allow you to use the federal exemptions.
Do I have to get credit counseling before I file for bankruptcy?
Yes. You must complete a credit counseling course before you file your bankruptcy petition. Fortunately, it's easy and can be done online.
What is a 341 hearing (creditors meeting)?
Everyone who files for bankruptcy must attend a 341 hearing, which is also called a "creditors meeting." The meeting is conducted by the bankruptcy trustee assigned to your case. During the Coronavirus, it. can be done by phone.
- Step 2: Complete the Bernalillo County Bankruptcy Means Test To See If You Qualify for For Chapter 7 - (Means Test)
New Mexico Median Income Test
The means test initially looks to see if your household income is above or below median for a household your size in New Mexico.
Means Test Calculator Table of Contents
The means test spans three forms and more than 50 questions about your income and expenses. Here's a line by line TOC with direct links to our Means Test Calculator.
Other Noteworthy Calculators on the Web
Means Test Calculator for all New Mexico counties
- Means Test FAQ - (MT FAQ)
What Is the Means Test?
The 2005 Bankruptcy Law (BAPCPA) created the means test, ostensibly to prevent people from abusing bankruptcy. The means test mans you can't file for Chapter 7 bankruptcy if your income is above the median income for New Mexico, or your allowed expenses leave enough disposable income to fund pay some of your debts over 5 years. In fact, most people who file for Chapter 7 bankruptcy have no trouble passing the means test.
Line by Line Means Test Positions of the U.S. Trustee 4/23/2010
This summarizes the opinion of the United States Trustee Program (USTP) on issues that arise under each line of the means test. These statements are not the last word on the law. They're just how the trustees office interprets the law.
Do I Need to Complete the Means Test?
You can't skip the means test, but it may be very quick, if your income is below the median income for New Mexico.
How Long Does The Means Test Take?
The means test can be completed very quickly if your average income for the past six months is below the state median. It takes a bit longer if your income is above the state median. But it can easily be completed in under an hour, regardless.
How is "Household Size" Defined in the Bankruptcy Median Income Test?
How many people are in your "household?" The issue can be tricky if you have roomates, or children who only live with you part time. Courts have ruled on lots of issues arising under this question.
Contributions of Roommates or Domestic Partners to Household Income
Household income includes payments from roommate, partner, parent, or relative, regardless of whether living with you. Here's the details
Median Income Test Notes
If I Pass the Means Test, Can I still be barred from filing bankruptcy?
A judge can still bar you from filing Chapter 7 bankruptcy if the "totality of the circumstances" under707(b)(3) make it appear you are "abusing" the process.
If I fail the Means Test, can a judge allow me to file anyway?
If you fail the means test you can still claim "special circumstances." Possible "special circumstances" are job loss or pay cut, a serious medical condition, or unusually high child care expenses. You must be able to produce proof of your expenses and that your expenses are reasonable -- and that you have no reasonable alternative.
What are "priority claims"?
Priority claims are debts that must be paid before all other debts. They include alimony, child support, wages you owe to workers, and unpaid taxes.
- Step 3: Determine What Property You Can Keep If You File: New Mexico Bankruptcy Exemptions - (Exemptions)
New Mexico Bankruptcy Exemptions for 2020
A quick summary of the main exemptions under New Mexico law.
New Mexico Homestead Exemption
New Mexico Motor Vehicle Exemption
- Bankruptcy Exemptions FAQ - (BK Exemptions FAQ)
What are Bankruptcy Exemptions?
Every state has laws that designate certain types of property (your home, some personal possessions, tools of your trade) that are off-limits to "unsecured" creditors. Some states give you the option of using the Federal bankruptcy exemptions.
Citations to Exemptions
What do I do with those citations? Do I need them?
Conditions of use & common sense advice before you use exemption information
By using these exemptions listing you agree to these disclaimers. it's up to you to make sure this info is accurate, up to date, and applies to you.
Which State's Exemptions Must You Use?
If you have lived in your state for two years prior to filing, use your state's exemptions. If you've lived in your state for less than two years, the rules are more complicated...
Updates & Errata
Common Exceptions to Exemptions:
Many states exemption laws do not protect property from certain kinds of creditors claims, such as child support, taxes, and claims of secured creditors.
Special Rules for Retirement Accounts
You may be surprised to learn that you can protect over 1million dollars of assets in retirement accounts when you file for bankruptcy.
Insurance Exemption Glossary
Insurance exemptions use a lingo all their own and some familiarity with the jargon is essential to understanding what is exempt.
Other Listings of New Mexico Exemptions on the Internet
How do I eliminate judicial liens on exempt property?
If there is a judicial lien on your property as a result of a court judgment against you, you may have the right to remove it if it "impairs" an exemption on the property. You must intitiate a special procedure called an "adversary proceeding." You may need a lawyer's help to do this, and you need to make ask your bankruptcy lawyer if they charge extra fees for doing this.
Exemptions & "Secured Debts"
Dealing with Secured Auto Loans in Bankruptcy
- Step 4: Find the Federal Bankruptcy Court Serving Bernalillo County - (Courts)
- Step 5: Gather The Necessary Federal and Local Bankruptcy Forms - (Forms)
- Bankruptcy Forms FAQ - (Bankruptcy Forms FAQ)
Where can I get bankruptcy forms for free?
Does the court supply instructions with the bankruptcy forms?
What is PDF?
What are "fillable" PDF forms?
Where can I find fillable bankruptcy PDF forms for free?
Where can I download Acrobat Reader?
Where can I find free or low-cost tools for saving what I type in fillable PDFs?
Glossary of Bankruptcy Terminology
How can I get copies of my filed tax returns?
- Specific Forms - (Selected Forms)
Official Form 101, Voluntary Petition for Individuals Filing for Bankruptcy
Official form 101A, Initial Statement About an Eviction Judgment Against You (individuals)
Official form 101B Statement About Payment of an Eviction Judgment Against You (individuals)
Official Form 103A, Application for Individuals to Pay the Filing Fee in Installments
Official form 103B, Application to Have the Chapter 7 Filing Fee Waived
Official form 1040, Adversary Proceeding Cover Sheet
Instructions For Bankruptcy Form 106 A/B, Schedule A/B: Property (individuals)
Official form 106 E/F, Schedule E/F: Creditors Who Have Unsecured Claims (individuals)
Official Form 106C, Schedule C: The Property You Claim as Exempt (individuals)
Official form 106D, Schedule D: Creditors Who Hold Claims Secured By Property (individuals)
Official form 106G, Schedule G: Executory Contracts and Unexpired Leases (individuals)
Official form 106H, Schedule H: Your Codebtors (individuals)
Official form 106I, Schedule I: Your Income (individuals)
Official form 106J, Schedule J: Your Expenses (individuals)
Official form 106J2, Schedule J-2: Expenses for Separate Household of Debtor 2 (individuals)
Official form 106, Declaration About an Individual Debtor's Schedules
Official form 106, A Summary of Your Assets and Liabilities and Certain Statistical Information (individuals)
Official form 107, Your Statement of Financial Affairs for Individuals Filing for Bankruptcy (individuals)
Offical form 108, Statement of Intention for Individuals Filing Under Chapter 7
Official form 119, Bankruptcy Petition Preparer's Notice, Declaration and Signature
Official form 121, Your Statement About Your Social Security Numbers
Official form 122A-1, Chapter 7 Statement of Your Current Monthly Income
Official help an committee notes for Official Form 122A-1
Official form 122A-1 Supp, Statement of Exemption from Presumption of Abuse Under §707(b)(2)
Official form 122A-2, Chapter 7 Means Test Calculation
Official form 122C-1, Chapter 13 Statement of Your Current Monthly Income and Calculation of Commitment Period
Official form 122C-2, Chapter 13 Calculation of Your Disposable Income
Official form 2400A/B Alt, Reaffirmation Agreement
Official form 2400A, Reaffirmation Documents
Official form 2400B, Motion for Approval of Reaffirmation Agreement
Official form 2400C, Order on Reaffirmation Agreement
Official form 2400C ALT, Order on Reaffirmation Agreement (Alt.)
- Step 6: Get Professional Help -- Bankruptcy Lawyers Serving New Mexico - (Lawyers)
How to Find a Bankruptcy Lawyer in New Mexico
Ten Ways a Bankruptcy Lawyer Can Help You
Directories of $_____ Bankruptcy Attorneys
What Should I Expect From a Bankruptcy Lawyer
Should You Use a Bankruptcy Petition Preparer (BPP)?
If you need clerical help -- not legal help -- a bankruptcy petition preparer can produce your bankruptcy court forms for a reasonable fee.
- Lawyers FAQ - (BK Lawyers FAQ)
- Bankruptcy & the Coronavirus Recession - (COVID-19)
Bankruptcy as Part of Your COVID-19 Financial Plan
While the timing for filing for bankruptcy may not be right NOW, the time to talk to a bankruptcy attorney IS now, so you can take full advantage of the financial protections that bankruptcy law can provide, and not make "financial mistakes" in the next 18 months.
Can Bankruptcy Keep Me From Being Evicted in New Mexico?
Can bankruptcy help stop an eviction? Well, it can delay it, for an extra month or two, in some cases, in some states, if you file early enough in the eviction process. And bankruptcy can be part of a broader financial strategy to keep a roof over your head. But you'll want to see a lawyer sooner rather than later to take full advantage of your options.
CDC Bans Evictions Through December
Find out how the CDC eviction ban works in your state. We're tracking down the latest tools and information on the internet or you to use.
Selected Articles about Bankruptcy and the Coronavirus
The best of what's out there on the web about how to use bankruptcy law to protect your assets during the Covid-19 recession.
Best Mortgage forbearance and COVID-19 Resources on the Internet
We've gathered links to best information on the web on the subject of COVID-19 legislation and resources that can help you keep your home during this economic crisis. We've gathered the best stuff all into the one article. -- Bookmark this page. We will revise it as we find new sources
CAREs Act Changes to the Bankruptcy Code
Congress made a few important changes to the bankruptcy laws. Here's a summary of what's changed.
CAREs Act Changes to Official Means TestForms 122A-1, 122B, and 122C-1
The CARES Act made an important change to the means test form to indicate that payments under the CARES act are NOT included in determining median income. This could be a great boon to those thinking of filing.
- Bankruptcy News - (News)
LC Bankruptcy Newsfeed
What We're Reading about Bankruptcy, Debt and Credit. Timely, useful articles, from reliable sources.
Daily News on Bankruptcy
Where to read up on news about about debt, credit, and bankruptcy.
Credit Card news & Info
Bankruptcy & Economic Statistics
Economic Statistics that relate to bankruptcy, such as savings rates, default rates, and outstanding consumer debt, secured and unsecured, like credit card debt, student loan debt, and auto loans.
Other Free Audio/Video About the Debt & Credit Industry
Good videos and audio information about bankruptcy, for those who listen better than they read...
New Mexico Exemption Updates
If there's changes in New Mexico's exemptions, here's where you'll find out about them.
Tweets by @meanstest
What we're Tweeting, in our twitter accounts @meanstest (for bankruptcy) and @lawbyzip
The latest from our blog on news and legislation that affects consumers.


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Nine-time Strikeforce veteran Tyron Woodley (10-1 MMA, 0-0 UFC) isn't the least bit nervous about his UFC appearance. In his mind, he's done this 1,000 times, and he's long known Jay Hieron (23-6 MMA, 0-3 UFC) would one day stand across the cage.
"Me and Jay have known each other for a while," Woodley recently told MMAjunkie.com Radio (www.mmajunkie.com/radio). "We never trained together. I think we always knew that this was going to happen."
Woodley made his Strikeforce debut in 2009, and he quickly became one of the most respected welterweights in the promotion's 170-pound division. A respected veteran of the sport, Hieron was also competing for Strikeforce at the time, and Woodley said he immediately assumed the two would cross paths. However, Hieron bolted for a stint with Bellator MMA, and the contest never came to fruition.
Both have since joined the UFC's ranks, and the two now meet at tonight's UFC 156 event in Las Vegas. Woodley said he's looking forward to the challenge he's long anticipated but stresses there are no hard feeling involved.
"He was in Strikeforce, and I thought we might bump heads there; now it's the UFC," Woodley said. "But it's no disrespect. You don't have to hate somebody to want to win the fight. I think that he has that mindset. I have that mindset, so we'll get in there and get after each other. After the fight, it will be no hard feelings."
Of course, Hieron will have the advantage of three previous appearances in the UFC's famed octagon. Despite a few headlining clots on the Strikeforce circuit, Woodley has never before fought for the UFC, a promotion whose debuting fighters nearly all admit to some type of jitters after their first performance.
Woodley believes he may be immune to such an experience simply because of the amount of time he's spent considering exactly what's at stake.
"Every time I run or do cardio, I really just visualize the fight – visualize the round, match the five minutes to the five minutes on the treadmill or elliptical," Woodley said. "I really play the fight out, and I really start thinking that all the hard work I've put in to here, all the training, the work is done. I just have to relax, go out there, be myself, fight hard and do the things that I know that I can do.
"I never thought I was not going to make it to the UFC. It's not like, 'Oh, I finally made it.' This was an inevitable process."
In Strikeforce, Woodley made it all the way to title contention, though he was knocked out by Nate MNarquardt in what remains the only loss of his career. He's still considered by many to be a top prospect, but what he can accomplish in the UFC remains to be seen. At 30 years old, Woodley is ready to find out.
"I'm not really focusing on making it to the UFC; I'm focusing on chopping down this ladder and getting to the top," Woodley said. "This is a stepping stone.
"It's all business, though. I'm ready to get it on."
For more on UFC 156, stay tuned to the UFC Rumors section of the site.
MMAjunkie.com Radio broadcasts Monday-Friday at noon ET (9 a.m. PT) live from Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino's Race & Sports Book. The show is hosted by "Gorgeous" George Garcia, MMAjunkie.com lead staff reporter John Morgan and producer Brian "Goze" Garcia. For more information or to download past episodes, go to www.mmajunkie.com/radio.

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LSP's Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) Directory
Each February, the Land Stewardship Project publishes a Directory of Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) Farms. This resource provides information on CSA operations that serve the Twin Cities, as well as Minnesota and western Wisconsin. When you purchase a "share" in one of these farms you receive regular deliveries of sustainably grown food during the growing season. But CSA operations provide more than just food—they offer ways for eaters to become involved in the ecological and human community that supports the farm. The Directory is available online here.


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Breaking news: Eric Abshire arrested
Eric Abshire will spend the holiday behind bars, according to Orange County Commonwealth's Attorney Diana Wheeler, who says that the fact Abshire was directly indicted by a grand jury coupled with the court's abbreviated holiday schedule means Abshire won't get his first day in Orange County circuit court until the new year, when he'll be asked if he's obtained representation or wishes to have an attorney appointed.
"The court usually hears criminal cases on Thursdays and Fridays," says Wheeler, but because of the holidays, January 6 was the "earliest possible hearing" for Abshire, who was ordered held without bond.
Abshire was arrested and charged with first degree murder and perjury late in the afternoon of Friday, December 17 as he drove south on Route 29 near the town of Culpeper, according to Virginia State Police Special Agent Mike Jones, who's headed the four-year investigation into the death of Abshire's wife, Justine Swartz Abshire. "He didn't seem surprised," says Jones, who adds that Abshire was taken into custody without a struggle.
Justine's parents, Steve and Heidi Swartz, have long expressed suspicion of their former son-in-law, who claimed to have found his wife's lifeless body on a dark country road sometime after 1am on November 3, 2006, the apparent victim of a hit-and-run.
"It's been 4 years, one month and two weeks since Justine died," the family announced in a December 18 statement. "Instead of living with her joy and beauty,we have been forced to live with the terror of murder in our family," they wrote. "As we take one step closer to Justice for Justine, we hope for the whole truth to come out and for justice to be served."
The case has been the subject of intense media scrutiny that included a one-hour ABC Primetime Crime episode that aired in July 2008. Abshire, who is being held at the Central Virginia Regional Jail in Orange, has long maintained his innocence. Most recently, he did not return the Hook's repeated calls for the November 11, 2010 Hook cover story on the case.
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Just over four years after he claimed to have found his wife's body on a winding country road in Orange County in the middle of the night, following what at first appeared to be a hit and run accident, Eric Abshire has been arrested and charged with first degree murder in the death of Justine Swartz Abshire.
"He was arrested this afternoon in Culpeper without incident," says Virginia State Police spokesperson Corrinne Geller, who says Abshire is being held at Central Virginia Regional Jail. According to a release, the arrest followed an indictment issued by a special grand jury. Abshire has also been charged with perjury.
Justine's death– and her parents' increasing suspicion of their son-in-law– have been the subject of intense media scrutiny that included a one-hour ABC Primetime Crime episode that aired in July 2008. Most recently, Abshire declined comment for the November 11, 2010 Hook cover story on the case.
Updated 8:10pm with perjury charge and special grand jury indictment.
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In a small town, once they get him in front of a local jury and tell them all sorts of irrelevancies such as he was a hound dog and all that, they'll crucify him. Small town juries stumble over themselves to convict in circumstantial cases.
Cases like this, he's guilty until proven innocent and maybe even guilty in spite of being proven innocent, but he's not innocent until proven guilty; that's just one of the sweet little lies we tell ourselves to re-affirm we live in an earthly paradise.
Love the post dustbag. They deleted my post to her :)
You said it, Curious. He's always thought of himself first. Terrible attitude towards women in general. An abusive, hot tempered, manipulator. His kids were very fond of Justine, as she was of them. Did he think of the girls and how the murder and its aftermath would affect them? By the way, not that it matters, but they are not small children anymore
Well harley and curious. Did i hit a bone these kids are still small and unless you was there to say you seen him do it dont be so fast to past judgement and convict! Just think of your self and kids if you have that in you. We all want to justice for what was done but pulling others in is not the answer! I believe that the truth will come out and you should remeber that others should stay out of this matter and let the legal system do its job! and your right age doent matter for these kids but think about how there getting hurt in all of this. And let them live their life with a little bit of happiness. Im just thinking of them in all of these and maybe thats what all of you need to do. This goes way past all of these thats taken place and family posting things to hurt family is childish.
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This is like the Hatfield's and the McCoys.
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Dear Known Facts, did he think of his kids when he committed the crime???????? Did he think of his kids when he left their mother for another women/many other women???????? I THINK NOT!!!!!!
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Dear Known Facts, so are you saying he should get a pass on murder because he has kids? I don't think so! Also, the children's age is irrelevant.... And as far as people driving around to pick up the papers so people won't see them-how juvenile-just another way Eric and his clan try to control people.
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Or rather, that one of his clan has slipped up on something else and is offering to testify against him in exchange for a plea bargain.
quote: a conviction has to be ââ?¬Å?beyond a reasonable doubt".
Exactly! And because of this newfangled DNA testing setting so many innocent free after they have served 15 and 20 years, circumstantial evidence is holding up as well as it once did.
My thoughts return to the night Justine died...on a lonely road with a man she married, loved, trusted, who in a rage snuffed out her life, leaving her laying in a road like a animal. My heart goes to the family, to Justine. She never wanted to marry the bum, he refused to allow her to leave...only one way out with him.
The women who post for him share one thing...you know what that is....
Dear Gasbag,
What do you know about baseball bats??????
Huh? Weird question. It's an old phrase of mine. Not long ago I told a mediator in a lawsuit I had filed that I would much rather have a half hour in a corn field with the defendent instead of a cash settlement. Cash settlements were getting real old at the time. :)
Great work, Courtney!
Maybe you could help Blink out with the Morgan Harrington case.
Nothing going on there! They could sure use someone like you.
She seems to be Clueless, literally!
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As for those who think courtney did such a great job, how about asking her for the whole truth and not half truths. I'm sure the police have not shared relevant information with her, she only prints what she's heard or what has been told to her. Did she actually check out these stories for FACTS or take them at face value? How about convicting someone without the whole story or evidence. I sure would hate to have her sit on a jury for me, a person could be convicted on heresay alone.
I'm curious, why is it that postings that point out faults with anyone other than Mr. Abshire are deleted? such as the comment posted this morning, pointing out that Ms. Abshire's family has some issues. Just asking
What seems to be your problem?? If you have the actual facts about this case, I suggest you contact LE first, then enlighten the rest of us. Perhaps Courtney Stuart would be interested in interviewing YOU, since you seem to have all the answers!I guess LE doesn't mind giving you all the inside information, you must be very special?
RU Kidding,
That's exactly what I'm saying, NO ONE has the ACTUAL FACTS. I'm just wondering where reporters get their INSIDE information and if it is verified by the police or anyone else. I just think the reports should be fair and not one-sided. When folks are interviewed it just seems like information isn't reported acurately. I do know some people who were intereviewed by Courtney Stuart and names of a couple of the people she talked to were wrong so if she can't get the names of the people she interviewed right what about other facts. What about not reporting the entire family dynamics and deleting postings that point out some of these issues.
No problem and who is LE.
Look out,that superior intelligence of yours is showing again. It's clear you are both a student of this case and have read all these stories. LE stands for LAW ENFORCEMENT.
Even if you don't agree with what the reporter says, they cannot just print "anything," their imformation must be verified. If she has used the wrong names for some people and you know this to be fact, I suggest you just contact her, or even post it on this site, and I am sure she will be happy to correct it after verification.
Now go back to your pop tarts and cartoons.
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I do beleive that other people will be charged in this case. IF he did murder her and leave her body in the road, he had to have help.....her car was left there by someone.
Mustang - agreed - thus the wrongful death suit (really don't believe they want the money)...it is being used to ferret out the person(s) responsible.
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There's plenty of people sitting in prisons on circumstantial evidence alone. It is up to a sane judge or a jury to decide what is enough evidence. Remember in a criminal case, a conviction has to be "beyond a reasonable doubt".
Mr/Mrs/Miss meanwhile, excelent point if we take it a step further, the fact that the threat of a wrongful death lawsuit hanging over somebody's head could be enough to make them say things that aren't true. Just to save their own bacon in this mess.
Let's remember that the last hook story about this case was detailing the civil suit brought by the parents. I think Scott's last comment could be on the mark. This suit may have brought pressure to bear upon a material witness. Or it may be that one of Ms. Stuart's LE sources indicated to her that they were close to an arrest, so she did the story.
The circumstantial evidence presented in the media so far has seemed flimsy. I agree with those that hope that the police are going on more than what the public knows. I would like to believe that of course they are, but my faith in law enforcement is not that high.
Of course, if this man is guilty, I hope that he is found to be so in a fair trial and that her family receives some comfort from his punishment.
I think everyone knew he was guilty from the start. Hope he enjoyed his 4 years of freedom while Justines family suffered and mourned the loss of their precious daughter.
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Oh, forgot to say...my son was found INNOCENT and even though they admitted to lying nothing was done and I am sure that people that don't really know him may be thinking "I WONDER IF DID HE REALLY DO IT? Unfortunately, it's the way society is and I was probably part of the problem before it happened to my family...
I read the comments and it didn't seem like anyone was stressing about the papers, just asking for facts. I would be interested in who picked up all those papers and for what reason beacasue this has been all over the news and the Daily Progress. Seems like folks are throwing out comments without any backup
I agree its patheticic, and I would like to know who would do that, so if the info is so public share, who burned the papers. A birth defect across the board????? Please! Don't use God in your statement if your the one setting in judgement of everyone Debbie.If you think you are so capable of doing that try walking on water, see how that works out for ya!
I GUESS FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE OUT THEIR WHO THINK ERIC's brother had something to do with this should know he took and passed a lie detector test so i dont think so .... people should not talk about what they dont know..........................
C'mon maaaaaane - a defendant is PRESUMED innocent until proven guilty. Its bout dem charges, prosecutors provin reasonable doubt, and bein PRESUMED innocent in da absence of evidence to da contrary - urribody know dat. Dese boards be full of sum of da dumbest smart people mane... (SMH)
"Innocent until proven guilty."
I have never understood --- really --- what that means. Regardless of proof, someone either did something or did not do something. The proof just exposes the deed in a socially (and judicially) acceptable way.
If someone is guilty of an act --- they are always guilty of the act. If someone is not guilty of an act --- they are always innocent of the act. If someone has actually committed a crime: there is no point afterwards at which they become innocent.
We need a new & better phrase for this, because it's polluting our thinking.
Whoa! @EACP - you know, a good prosecutor can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich...this is no indication of anything in terms of the quality of the evidence, particularly in a case so well publicized as this one, in this area. I'm sure Abshire gets a change of venue.
And GSOE is right: DNA (real, hard, objective evidence) has been exonerating a lot of "criminals" for years now - in increasing numbers - and revealing the "criminal justice" system for the sham it often is. Prosecutors and investigators are so terrified of the threat of their rather lame track record being publicly revealed that there is a strong move underfoot to allow the state to destroy evidence (lest anyone check up on it - you know, kind of like a criminal tossing the weapon in a river) and barring that to prevent anyone already convicted from being able to have the DNA tested. They'd just like to sweep all those bad convictions under the rug, because "they're bad people anyway - guilty of SOMETHING".
And yeah, I personally would prefer that a "murderer" get off on a "technicality" (Fuhrman & OJ) than allow the government to be sloppy in locking people up.
The case of the young man picked up off the street in Charlottesville as he was walking home from his job, then ID'ed by the victim of a sexual assault (within minutes of the assault), and exonerated by the DNA evidence a very short while later - leaps to mind. Yes, sure, he was exonerated...only because there was DNA evidence and only after he spent a week in jail. And yes, he was just picked up off the street. How many YEARS did we go with the serial rapist while the keystone cops flailed and got so desperate they started grabbing random men off the street in their desperation? The only got the real guy because his victim went into H-T and recognized him (and DNA evidence backed up her ID). Twenty-five years ago, before PCR (DNA amplification) was available, this guy would have been put away for a long time.
Guilty, indicted, convicted (and all three of those are very different things) or not, people have been thinking of Eric Abshire as a murderer for years. So yeah, hopefully they've got real evidence - that is, solid, direct and un-compromised - to convict him with. I'm guessing they were smart about it and have not indicted him before since they either didn't have such evidence or it was compromised in some way. Hopefully a smart prosecutor has figured out a way to fix that. After this much time, it seems more likely to me that he's slipped up and confessed to somebody who will testify.
Mr/Mrs/Miss Geez, you catch on fast.
Clan? REALLY????? All this is,is a gossip rag used to start and spread hear say. Its to rev-up the public and control what people believe. I have decided I am not going to feed into it any more. So have at it waste your time its not going to make a difference. I am pretty sure the court is not going to print this off and use it as evidence. So think about where your time is better spent.
To Worried,
Why not print ALL the facts, give a little background about why something may or may not be as it seems. Such as Ms. Abshire and her mother did not get along and she didn't want her mother at her wedding, maybe that is why she looked sad in some of the photos (bet you didn't know that)
Very mature....pop tarts and cartoons (ha ha)
Seems like you may HAVE all the facts, do tell.
Just wondering, what would make one trust you more than Courtney Stuart. At least she has a legitimate name, and works for a legitimate newspaper---Knowing you as MR./MRS./MS. WORRIED, doesn't help your credibility factor--not so much, huh!
JMO--maybe you should talk to law enforcement if you really want to make a difference. I am sure they would like all the help they can get.
Just to let who ever know, when there was something printed that was not true, I contacted and left my name and number for Ms. Stuart to return my call to discuss the misprint of info., and guess what? NO RETURN CALL. Imagine that.
RU Kidding (if that is your REAL name)
Why are you so intimidated that there are people out there who would like ALL the facts in order to make an informaed decision. I still like to think that, in the justice system, a person is innocent until proven guilty. How would you like to be accused of a crime and be tried and conviced without the benefit of a trial. why is this hard for you?
No need to resond, this is my last post. Just knowing that there are those out there who take everything at face value and can't think for themselves is a little depressing.
I believe you totally MISSED my point!
Mr. Abshire's guilt or innocence is of no concern to me. That will be determined by a jury of his peers. That the Grand Jury saw fit to indict,does say they have ENOUGH evidence to consider MR. Abshire responsible for his wife's murder.-
>)Anyone on this sight has the right to their "opinion", and I be-
lieve that is what they are expressing , their OPINION only.
>Courtney Stuart is to be commended on keeping this story in the
the public eye--that is what I was referring to with my first
>I do not believe anyone here is convicting Mr. Abshire of murder
based on Ms. Stuart's article, as you seem to think. She is
a journalist, she writes articles on newsworthy subjects.Justine
Abshires murder is certainly one of them.
>There will ALWAYS be people on either side of an issue-pro/con,
guilty/not guilty, etc., welcome to the Free World.
>The only people YOU should concern yourself with are the jurors
chosen for this case. Their verdict will reflect the only infor-
mation relevant to the outcome. Everything else is just opinion
and speculation.
So, no, I am not intimidated by people wanting all the fact's in order to make an informed decision. And no I do not fault Ms. Stuart for writing "a " story. Nor do I fault anyone here for their comments on Mr. Abshire's guilt or innocence. People will say what people will say--That's Life.
In the end all any of these victims need is someone to care enough not to let their case go "COLD" ...and that is what I meant by my comments about Ms. Stuart.
P.S. As far as the comment about Justine Abshire looking sad on her wedding day--that is the kind of comment that doesn't require comment. JMO---
SO Worried ,don't be Worried
Hope they have the evidence they need for a conviction.
I don't think circumstantial evidence will be enough.
Dear Gasbag, Why would you think that they only have circumstantial evidence? I think you may be the Gasbag for assuming they don't have the hard evidence.
What a joyful day-it is a great feeling to all of us who cared about Justine, to think of Eric sitting behind those bars tonight and hopefully every night for the rest of his LIFE!!!!!!
How is it the Hook has this online before the two television news operations have it up?
sorry, was suppose to read....
"circumstantial evidence isn't holding up as well as it once did!"
quote: How is it the Hook has this online before the two television news operations have it up?
I suspect they have confidential informants.
What do you think? They also get "news" the other media outlets never seem to latch on to.
courteney you deserve a lions share of credit for keeping this story in the news and providing some excellent in-depth journalism over the years. you are a big reason why the hook is as successful as it is and why i read it in the first place. congrats on helping to get this guy behind bars. someone buy that lady a drink.
I second what Josh is saying. Great job Courtney! Let's hope this guy stays in jail.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Not true, Karen. Sadly enough.... now that murder charges have been filed, he will ALWAYS be known as a murderer whether he is convicted or not. Just like O J Simpson.
Karen and Gasbag must be friends of Abshire's. By the way, Gasbag, OJ is a murderer. You think its "sad" people think of him that way? Yikes! Everyone with half a brain knows how & why he wasn't convicted in the first circus of a trial. That won't be repeated in this case. Finally, we will see justice for Justine!
Jackson, I do not any party involved in this story. But you proved my point well. Just like O J Simpson, Abshire will always be a murderer whether he is convicted or not.
I'm sorry, I might feel differently about the O J Simpson case had former LAPD detective Mark Fuhrman not taken the witness stand and committed perjury under oath.
correction, I left out a word....
I do now KNOW any party involved in this story. Except the reporter of course.
Thank you Courtney for your great investigative reporting, and for keeping this story alive. Its been a long time coming. I'm feeling happy and hopeful tonight that Justine's killer is sitting in a jail cell where he belongs.
Also praying that they have built up a solid case. And that t's are crossed and i's are dotted, as they say. People have been convicted on only circumstantial evidence (think of Scott Peterson). And the circumstantial evidence in this case, just what has been made public, is pointing to only one person. But we all want to make sure Eric is convicted and send to prison.
Just go ahead and get the chair and lethal injection ready for him, at the same time.
I think everybody knew something didn't sound right from the begining.
So glad after all this time they have arrested him. I hope they have all the evidence they need for a conviction. There will hopefully be justice for Justine after all.
When someone is just sitting around waiting for the cops to knock on his door and take him away....hum....sounds pretty guilty to me. Nothing about that night sounded right and justice will hopefully, be served.
Keep the ball rolling and get this lunatic off the streets. RIP Justine. He deserves everything that is coming to him. He has damaged and destroyed so many lives. What is wrong with him? Go sit in jail and think about it Eric. Did you seriously think you were going to get away with it????? For what? Oh yeah, and Karen....if this was your sister would you feel the same? What is your connection with Eric? Apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Sad for you too.
Ya know, I'm sorry, but Debbie and Tina are the type of people who make the strongest case in anybody saying our criminal justice system is broken. They sit here and openly proclaim Abshire's guilt. But once in front of a judge during jury selection they both will most likely say they have formed no opinion as to his guilt or innocence.
There was a time that innocent people were hung from trees because of the color of there skin. There was no trial, just mob justice. I think we have come a long way since those days. Our system is not perfect, but it works. I think there are a lot of emotions getting in the way. Emotions are human, but to convict a man before the state has proven there case, throws our society back 200 years.
Isn't it kind of unusual for someone to be tried on murder AND perjury charges? Any of you legal eagles out there know what that might indicate?
It is probably a coincidence that this came so close to the filing of the civil charges. But back to the perjury. Didn't some of his relatives (brother in particular) back up Eric's story to a T? If there is evidence that Eric perjured himself, wouldn't it stand to reason that there was evidence that one of his relatives also perjured himself. Yet, there is only a charge against Eric. Seems like perjury in a murder case is pretty serious business. Not something authorities would overlook.
Of course, unless said relative(s) recanted after given a promise of immunity.
Regardless of the outcome, I think Eric will have to live with this incident and the backlash it will cause. I only wish that all the evidence would come out in a factual nature and not in some journalist form for us to read. Unfortunately, that's all we have as information unless we get selected for jury duty (I live in Orange County...). But as Gasbag states, not sure I could be neutral in the case which would NOT make me a good juror.
Barbara Myer- great point!! Can't wait until someone brings that up on the legal level. A guilty party is always guilty, never innocent....very interesting thought.
Thoughts go to Boy George Huguley- he is guilty, not innocent- as he admitted his guilt. His attorneys know it too- they are now attempting to prove that he did not kill Ms. Love- well, at least knowingly, or whatever.
I am glad to say that I am so happy that they have finally got this going in the right direction! Justine was my sons kindergarten teacher, & we got the chance to know her very well. She deserves the right to rest in peace, & the only way to give that to her is if the person/people that did this to her pay for it.
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I never heard of the paper incident. That in itself speaks volumes. Like I said earlier, apple does not fall far from the tree. Again, who would do that??????? A birth defect across the board with that family for sure. Speaks about who and what they are! And let me just say, if he is innocent - may God let him off. But that will not be the case. Just sickening!
Not quite but good try!
My family knew both families and this is indeed truly a tragic situation for both. It is true that once you are charged in the public you will NEVER be innocent even if you ARE, because it has put doubt in someone's mind so there is always going to be someone out there thinking he did it even if they found out someone else did it. I know personally how it feels as a mother to have your child accused of something, go to jail, have their name in the paper and go through a trial to find out that the other party was found to have lied about it or that the persecutors had not done their job in interviewing people or looking into the real facts. They were so glad to rush to judgment and fought having certain doctors records brought forth so we could prove what we already knew. So please, I agree that we want justice for Justine but lets make sure before we make a lot of hurtful comments that hurt both sides, that Eric is indeed the right person to be punished. Let's not rush to judgment...leave that for God to do. Both families with be in my thoughts and prayers...
ready, set, go Gasbag!!!
(insert police officers lying in court)
He was at the hospital until early morning hours with his mother who was terminal, didn't think she would live through the night. Knowing he could be called back to the hospital anytime when did he have the time to do all of this, where did he do it, was there evidence on his vehicle, bruses on his hands or body as if he had been in a confrotation, what was found in the house when searched? What about a car that belonged to a family that lived on the road Ms. Abshire was found on - it was burned and disappeared a few days after the incident, was this ever checked out? Just asking those who seem to know a lot about this case.
I personally thought he was responsible from the initial reports. The evidence and his story did not make sense, he had to have been involved. Hopefully the Commonwealth's Attorney has a strong case since they have taken their time in bringing charges against him.
Why are email addresses showing up?
I love the passive aggressive postings. "may God bless you while I step on your head".
I do not think the case is very strong. It took 4 years to bring charges.
Hey michelle.. "CIRCUMSTANCES ARE NOT ALWAYS AS THEY SEAM"...
Seam noun : The joining of two pieces...by sewing, usu. near the edge, the stitching used in such a joining. 2. the space between adjoining planks or strakes...ect...
So, add that to your education! Turn the cap lock off and enjoy the cold weather.
Mmmmm.... - I was thinking the same thing...."God bless you, but I want to stomp you one! How dare you have an opinion!"
Setting aside spelling (word choice) and capitalization, which are really irrelevant and orthogonal criticisms of her posting, Michelle is exactly right about this. That was my point about why there was such a delay in charging him in the first place. Abshire might be a really disagreeable and unlikeable person, and a jerk to women to boot, but that's not evidence of murder. I've re-read the original article, and I have to say, while there are some odd things in his account, they don't add up to anything definitive.
ââ?¬Å?CIRCUMSTANCES ARE NOT ALWAYS AS THEY SEAM""Š ???
Correct. This is why so MANY prisoners who were convicted on circumstantial evidence nationwide are now being released from prison thanks to DNA testing, but only after serving 15 and 20 years for a crime they did not commit.
Dear Gasbag,
If you are claiming he didn't do it and DNA can prove it-fine. But, I still think he should serve a nice 20 years in the klink for abusing her..... How about you?
He looks like a psychopath in that photo with his smarmy smirk and cold beady eyes. And Justine looks sad. Here's another slightly different version of the photo taken during the same shoot and here you can really see what I mean:
That's not a happy woman.
curious, I am not claiming anything in this particular case. I am simply hoping they have more than circumstancial evidence to convict him with. Circumstancial evidence ain't making the grade nowadays since we have seen so many wrongfully convicted based on it in the past.
I bet if the family was to be given a choice, his serving 20 years in jail, or their getting to take him into a corn field with an aluminum baseball bat for 30 minutes, the family would choose the bat option. :)
yall really need to shut up this man did not do this


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AS I wrote in quite some posts here, I DID CHANGE the symlink of CurrentJDK to directly point to 1.5.0 in /System/Library/FrameworksÂ…
wich is as far as I'm concerned the only way I've found to get things work in OsX.
AS it's said on the here, on the net & other forums, it is not recommanded to do it, which I understand.
So I did try to make a New fresh Install, on a virgin partition on another internal disc (on the same box that I'm using with the working Zimbra server) (and with another NIC card, mainly because I'm using AppleRemoteDesktop and it relays more on MAC adresses which in fact turned to confuse ARD and the zimbra box itself, because just to be sure I did change the domain name to not messing around with my working install aka (Working install#1 is zimbra.zimbra.org and second one is brazim.brazim.org) all my DNS are fine and running on OsX server and on my gigabitfirewall IPCOP Router wich is my second DNS server.)
Pffffff, ok Now that all is explained and set I'm coming to JAVA Issue:
-zimbraInstall#1 : when I change the CurrentJDK symlink to 1.5.0 = everything is fine, really fine.
-ZimbraInstall#2 : before installing zimbra I did put those two line in /etc/profile :
launch Terminal as admin or root (I did it as root -so no need to type password which I found to be finally faster when testing etc,Â…) anyway launched terminal window and type:
pico /etc/profile
hit enter and at the end just typed those 2 lines
export JAVA_HOME=/system/Library/Frameworks/JAVAVM.Framework/1.5.0/Home
export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH
hit enter to add a line and Ctrl-O to save the file.
no just type logout, close the window. Get a New terminal window and type
Java -version:
tada !
Java 1.5 shows up!
This also make you avoid to edit the .bashrc file in Users, it's going to be applied to all users. You could also only put that for one single user like zimbra user for instanceÂ… but as I run StartupItems (by the root user) I prefred to apply this to all user. I could see later if I would or not apply it only for zimbra user or not.
Then log in as any other user or the zimbra user if you already created it (but don't install zimbra yet as if java not correctly setted up, I found that install and post-install script didn't went good) and just verify that JAVA 1.5 shows too. wich it will.
So here we think, all of us, Yeah! I did it! no need to trick the Symlink in the System as lots of guys suggested;
but, now comes the "zimbra-java-related problem" if I could say.
In that case you, again as suggested, didn't tricked the system and just edited the /etc/profile.
And you've got JAVA 1.5 showing up as wanted.
I did a little script to do itÂ… and I'll post it in case this is solved, but as you'll read on this is not.
As nigelkersten said here http://www.zimbra.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5177&postcount=8
[quote]as far as JAVA_HOME goes, I notice that zimbra sets it to /usr with the setup script... it should probably be /Library/Java/Home under OS X, but I'll see whether that works. It will for the java executable as /usr/bin contains a link to the Commands in /Library/Java/Home, but other things may not work so well.[/quote]
the java symlink in /opt/zimbra/java point to /usr
and here is the "STUFF".
/usr has /bin in which there is a java symlink
aka /usr/bin/java pointing in fact to /system/Library/Frameworks/JAVAVM.Framework/1.4.2/Commands/java
(wich is the same as : /system/Library/Frameworks/JAVAVM.Framework/1.4.2/Home/bin/java (java is a symlink hereÂ…)
so even if you did edited 'the good way' /etc/profile, /usr/bin/java still points to the 1.4.2 Java Version.
So, Houston, we here may have a pbÂ… ? because /opt/zimbra/java is the same as /usr/bin/java which is the same as /system/Library/Frameworks/JAVAVM.Framework/1.4.2/Commands/java.
Following me ? ;)
this is why (I think) the only way to get this working is to trick the symilnk of the currentJDK, and I'll explains more:
you tricked the CurrentJDK symlink to point to 1.5.0 (the ugly way as I say)
the command:
java -version
gives you 1.5.0 as expected
and the command:
which java
gives you:
so now you do see the "link" with /opt/zimbra/java right ?
if you edited /etc/profile
the command:
java -version
gives you 1.5.0 as expected
and the command:
which java
gives you:
Which is fine BUT in that case /opt/zimbra/java STILL point to /usr/bin/java wich STILL points to
/system/Library/Frameworks/JAVAVM.Framework/1.4.2/Commands/java and that's not good.
So I've tried 'ugly' things just to understand.
Despite this, I found that
usr/bin/java symlink relays on the CurrentJDK ! this is why the ugly way (#1) just works with no single pb, because in that case the /usr/bin/java automatically points to the CurrentJDK/Commands/java
OK, now you you're beginning to see somethingÂ…
If you like to see by yourself, you can test it like this:
Don't "Trick" the CurrentJDK symlink, and don't edit /etc/profile
go in finder and in the Go menu choose 'Go to folder' and type /usr/bin
Now just select java and hit 'Command-R' to get to the 'source'
-> you'll get to 1.4.2/Commands/java
Don't "Trick" the CurrentJDK symlink, and edit /etc/profile
go in finder and in the Go menu choose 'Go to folder' and type /usr/bin
Now just select java and hit 'Command-R' to get to the 'source'
-> you'll get to 1.4.2/Commands/java AGAIN ! (not 1.5.0/Commands/java which is what you want)
Do "Trick" the CurrentJDK symlink, (and do or don't edit /etc/profile this has no more importance now)
go in finder and in the Go menu choose 'Go to folder' and type /usr/bin
Now just select java and hit 'Command-R' to get to the 'source'
-> you'll get to 1.5.0/Commands/java (Wich is What you do want, right ?)
Note: you don't need to restart nor logout (of the finder). just type logout at the terminal window (after changing CurrentJDK symlinks and/or editing /etc/profile) and launch a new Terminal window.
Yeah legendary User friendly MACPOWER ;-) (even if bugs exits on my favorite platformÂ…, let's be honest a bit, Uh! s3nz3x pro-mac user)
(So I would suggest to trick CurrentJDK and eventually edit per user .bashrc or /etc/profile to get java 1.4.2 if really needed for example)
Now, what other 'ugly' things did I tried? considering that I edited /etc/profile to point to java 1.5 and DID NOT change the symlink of CurrentJDK
I tried to, in disorder ( I don't really remember the order as I tried all this for a non-stop 36-48h night & days, well in fact quite all the past week.
Yes it's true, I'm a bit focused sometimes, and I just mainly prefer to work @ night, as I can afford to wake up @ 9-10 or 11 AM - when I go to sleep every day of the year like @ 2 to 4 PM, I'm no vampireÂ…;-0 ).
Ok so, I did:
A) Forced all the java related symlink in /usr/bin to point to 1.5.0/Commands/
B) Just SUPPRESSED all the java related symlink in /usr/bin
C) Changed /opt/zimbra/java to point to :
D) Changed /opt/zimbra/java to point to :
E) Changed /opt/zimbra/java to point to :
I've tried all this because I was a little confused with 'real' definition of JAVA_HOME.
for me it was /system/Library/Frameworks/JAVAVM.Framework/1.4.2(or1.5.0)/Commands/java
but as I read many files of zimbra folders I saw that it was more the so called Home folder
like /system/Library/Frameworks/JAVAVM.Framework/1.4.2(or1.5.0)/Home wich is many times followed with /bin (Cf above the /etc/profile editing).
Anyway, the MAX BEST RESULTS I've come to get was:
antispam Stopped
antivirus Running
ldap Running
logger Stopped
mailbox Running
mta Stopped
snmp Stopped
spell Running
Another thing I 'discovered' is that tools.jar just doesn't exists on OsX.
On other Oses is more or less at the location /JAVA-theversionyouwant-/Home/lib/tools.jar.
On OsX Boxes tools.jar is named classes.jar and is located @ /JAVA-theversionyouwant-/Classes/classes.jar
So I did, during a short second, think I found something here, but even if I've read somewhere, a suggestion to create a symlink of classes.jar and name it tools.jar
like /thejavaversionyouwant/Classes/classes.jar to /thejavaversionyouwant/Home/lib/tools.jar, I didn't tried it because :
For sure zimbra developpers knew it because 1- if not, even in the 'UGLY WAY' it wouldn't work at all and it does work.
2- in the /opt/zimbra/jakarta-tomcat-5.5.7/bin/setclasspath.sh they've done a special OsX Tricks. They ARE JAVA programmers and for sure knew about this.
I've mostly posted this romance, in case it would give clues to anyone of us knowing java, and in case it could help ZimbraDevs to get zimbra work without having to do the UGLY way (wich in fact I don't care because I'll install zimbra on its own box so I wont use it for anything else, but just for the principe, I'd like to do this the clean way if I may say.)
thanks for readingÂ…
mostly for zimbra developper : OsX-java1.5-usr/bin/java and opt/zimbra/java
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Flash storage vendor Violin Memory has acquired Gridiron Systems for an undisclosed sum and plans to use the company's application acceleration smarts with its flash arrays.
Gridiron's operations units have already been integrated into Violin. The two companies are set to formally announce the deal on Monday. Both companies are privately held.
Gridiron sells an appliance that slots in between an enterprise's storage and servers and speeds up access to data in existing storage arrays. It uses flash, memory, software and proprietary hardware and can make databases and applications run 10 times faster, according to Gridiron's website.
Violin plans to use Gridiron's algorithms, which learn about I/O traffic patterns and cache the active dataset of an application, in its flash storage arrays. Gridiron's technology is well-suited to online transaction processing, data warehouses, virtualization and big-data analytics, according to Violin.
Violin also plans to continue selling Gridiron's appliances, eventually making merged products, said Ashish Gupta, Violin's director of product marketing.
Gridiron is based in Sunnyvale, California, while Violin is located in nearby Mountain View.
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- 1 teaspoon vegetable oil
- 1/2 onion, sliced
- 2 teaspoons chopped seeded jalapeño chile
- 1 12-ounce package soy chorizo (sometimes labeled Soyrizo), casing removed
- 1 15.4-ounce to 16-ounce can vegetarian refried black beans
- 12 corn tortillas, warm
- Diced onion
- Chopped fresh cilantro
Recipe Preparation
Heat oil in large nonstick skillet over medium heat. Add sliced onion and jalapeño; sauté until tender, about 10 minutes. Add soy chorizo and cook until beginning to brown in spots, stirring often, about 5 minutes.
Meanwhile, cook beans in heavy small saucepan over low heat until heated through, stirring occasionally.
Stack 2 warm tortillas for each of 6 tacos. Spread scant 2 tablespoons beans over each stack. Top with soy chorizo mixture, dividing equally. Sprinkle with diced onion and cilantro.


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Kidnappers free 2 Americans, Egyptian guide
Bedouin tribesmen abducted two female American tourists and their Egyptian guide at gunpoint Friday but released them several hours later after negotiations with tribal leaders in the Sinai Peninsula, the region's security chief said.
The brazen daylight abduction along a busy highway was a new blow to Egypt's vital tourism industry, which has been heavily battered by the unrest following last year's uprising that ousted former President Hosni Mubarak.
Tensions across the nation have spiked since a deadly soccer riot on Wednesday that has spiraled into a political crisis and fueled anger at the ruling military council after protesters accused police of standing by and allowing the bloodshed.
Also Friday, four masked gunmen stopped the vehicle of two Italians working for a local food factory in the nearby city of Suez, taking their car, more than 10,000 euros ($13,000) and their laptops, the director of the company Mohammed Antar said. The attackers let the Italians go.
Maj. Gen. Mohammed Naguib, the head of security for southern Sinai, said the three were snatched from a minivan after it was intercepted at gunpoint while carrying the group from St. Catherine's Monastery to the Red Sea resort town of Sharm el-Sheikh. The attackers, who were driving a sedan and a pickup truck, then sped away into the mountains. A helicopter buzzed over the area as authorities launched a search and rescue mission.
The bus was carrying three other people who were left behind, Naguib said. Their nationalities were not immediately known.
The gunmen were demanding the release of a number of fellow tribesmen arrested this week on drug trafficking and robbery charges but agreed to free the women after mediation efforts between officials and tribal leaders, Naguib said.
Security officers then drove to an area called Wadi Feran where the women and the guide were being kept and took them back to the police station in St. Catherine, the town near the historic site, which UNESCO says is the oldest Christian monastery still in use for its original function.
In Washington, State Department spokesman Mark Toner confirmed the release of the two American citizens and thanked the Egyptian authorities for their quick response to the kidnappings.
"We certainly appreciate the efforts of the Egyptian authorities in securing the releases," he told a news briefing.
He said he could not name the Americans because of privacy considerations.
Bedouins have long complained of discrimination and random arrests by the government and the area was restive even under Mubarak, but tensions have risen in recent months along with a general deterioration of security in the region that has included attacks on police stations, armed militias roving the streets and attacks on pipelines carrying gas to Jordan and Israel.
Earlier this week, armed Islamic militants also seized 25 Chinese factory workers after forcing them off a bus elsewhere in the peninsula, but they were released the next day. The kidnappers were also demanding the release of members of their group arrested years before on charges of terrorism.
In general, Egypt has faced a surge in crime since the uprising, which uprooted Mubarak's police state that kept tight control over the population of 85 million. Protesters accuse the military council that took power after Mubarak's ouster and the police force of negligence.
Tourism Minister Mounir Abdel-Nour said last month that the number of tourists who came to Egypt in 2011 dropped to 9.8 million from 14.7 million the previous year. Revenues for the year clocked in at $8.8 billion compared to $12.5 billion in 2010.
Adel Shokry, the secretary general of the south Sinai Hotel Association, said occupancy in the area has suffered in the past few months because of the increasing lawlessness.
"The security agencies are not working as efficiently as they had before. They must review their positions," he said. "With all these incidents, it is clearly not easy. But we must move. I think the army must step in to fill in this security vacuum."
Normally at this time of year, which is not high season, Shokry said hotel occupancy rates can reach up to 65 percent. "Currently, we are no more than 30 percent in all of Sinai," he said.
Ranya Barakat, the owner of one of Sinai's main publications, said the deteriorating security situation in Sinai coupled with the recurrent violence in Cairo has turned people away from the region. Friday's kidnapping will just be another sharp blow.
"It will really be felt, it will have a strong impact," she said.
Charter flights from Europe for the summer season are drawn up in January and February, and she said the news of the kidnapping is expected to negatively impact bookings.
Associated Press writers Sarah El Deeb in Cairo and Matthew Pennington in Washington contributed to this report.


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"Okay, so wait, wait, wait. We all failed miserably trying to get you guys more viewers for iCarly. And yet, it is precisely those miserable failures that are getting you guys more viewers for iCarly?"
iWant More Viewers is the second episode of the first season of iCarly.
Carly and Sam want to come up with a way to attract more viewers to iCarly and decide to make a competition out of it, with Spencer and Freddie on one team and Carly and Sam on the other. The losing team will have to touch the gross wart on the doorman, Lewbert.
Carly and Sam come up with the idea to create a colorful banner and get it shown on their favorite show, Seattle Beat, which has high ratings. Unfortunately, it begins to rain, causing the paint to run off and the banner is ruined before it can be seen on TV and is humiliated on it.
Freddie and Spencer come up with the idea to put up a large electronic sign overlo
oking a major highway in downtown Seattle, that Spencer puts up. During the live iCarly broadcast, the sign is lit, reading "Please go online to iCarly.com." Unfortunately, because the sign is so bright, it causes a chain-reaction multi-vehicle crash to occur on the highway.
Carly, Sam and Freddie urge Spencer to turn the sign off and while Spencer tries to turn the sign off, it malfunctions and all but nine letters of the sign blow out, causing the sign to read the message, "Pee on Carl."
After the incident, Carly, Sam and Freddie read messages that viewers posted on the iCarly website who thought the sign mishaps were hilarious; (one even said that she almost peed herself from laughing so hard and that she loved to see Carly and Sam on Seattle Beat) Spencer is then brought home by the police, and one of the officers named Carl, takes offense at the "Pee on Carl" sign. The cops leave without pressing any charges, but instead let Spencer off with a warning. The two teams agree that since neither of their ideas worked out (although their mishaps ultimately may have gotten them more viewers anyway), both teams lost, so no one has to touch Lewbert's wart. In the end the four characters are leaving the Shay Apartment in order to eat pizza.
- Sam saying that Lewbert is "The meanest man alive!" is probably a reference to the famous comicbook superhero, The Flash, who is known as "The fastest man alive".
- This is the first episode where Spencer's special socks are seen, made by his best friend, Socko (Dan has a best friend in real life like Socko—except that he makes unusual furniture. He works for the Jellio company).
- Spencer wears the yellow vest again in "iDate A Bad Boy".
- Miss Briggs' first name is revealed to be Francine.
- The sign is mentioned again in the episode iMove Out, when Spencer calls the cops on the Petographers, but officer Carl hasn't forgotten about it.
- After hitting his head on the top of his locker, Freddie said he was bleeding, but he actually wasn't bleeding. Nathan Kress says that they "...just put this cushion thing on it, and spray-painted it blue." They haven't taken it out since then.
- The middle guy in the iCarly fan video is wearing a pink bunny suit which is identical to the one Carly wore in iSaved Your Life.
- Spencer's "buddy with the truck" is probably Socko. This implies that Freddie has seen Socko in person.
- Note that the sports bra appears "worn."
- The music video playing during the Seattle Beat broadcast is "Disco Ball" by Saucy Monky, a band whose music has appeared in Dan Schneider's other shows Zoey 101 and Drake & Josh.
- When Miss Briggs confronts Spencer in the school she says "I thought I'd seen the last of you eight years ago when you graduated". However in "iReunite with Missy", which takes place approximately 18 months later, Carly explains that eight years earlier her Dad was stationed at Seal Beach - so it's not clear how Spencer could have graduated from Ridgeway in Seattle while the family was living in Seal Beach, California.
- Freddie starts to eat a meatball before Spencer makes him lose his appetite. However, he can be serving himself again moments later, and the bowl mysteriously jumps to Sam's end of the table without any shots of it being placed there.
- Carly sprays Sam and Freddie with water many times so that they stop fighting. She even does it from very close proximity (for example, when they are sitting at the table) but both Sam and Freddie act like they're not expecting it, while they are able to see it coming. They still had body reflexes.
- When Carly starts spraying Sam to get her to stop watching TV and help her make the banner, you can clearly see that the first time she misses but Sam reacts like she got sprayed.
- When Sam and Carly come into the apartment after getting soaked in the rain, one back shot of Sam has her hair completely swept over her right shoulder, but in the next shot, some of her hair drapes down her back.
- In the scene where Spencer's sign lights up the interstate, it supposedly causes drivers to crash. However, cars can be seen driving along smoothly behind him after the cars crashed.
- The sign over the highway is not the one that Spencer and Freddie made in the apartment - it is much wider.
- In that same scene, each letter on the electronic sign reading "Please go online to iCarly.com" are different colors even when the sign starts to malfunction and flicker, when most of the letters of the sign blow out causing it to read "Pee on Carl", all the remaining letters turn yellow.
- When Carly and Sam are in front of the Seattle Beat studio holding the banner, the host says, "You can catch that band at the showbox next... weekend," looks at Carly and Sam, and says, "That sign is messed up." However, when they play back the clip on iCarly.com, she goes on to say, "So be sure—" before she looks at Carly and Sam.
- Technically, if both teams lost, all four of them would have to touch Lewbert's wart.
- When they show the video of Carly and Sam with the sign at iCarly, you can hear both of them groan. Considering the camera was inside the studio and a whole bunch of screaming people were surrounding the girls, you shouldn't have been able to hear them.
- Spencer refers to his road sign as "luminescent" - this is an odd word to use, as luminescence is a natural property of some substances to emit light without the application of heat. It is an "illuminated" sign, and it might be a "fluorescent" sign depending upon the technology used. It might be called a "luminous" sign, which means bright or shining, although that term is generally used to denote objects that store light during the day and emit it again at night, such as the "luminous" paint used on the dials of some watches and clocks.
- This is the first of several episodes in which either Carly or Spencer cook spaghetti or spaghetti tacos apparently without using the stove - this requires boiling the noodles in a large pot, yet a decorative green cover is in place on the stove, indicating that it has not been used.
Carly: [during the webcast] Which is why I say, the potato is superior to the sports bra.
Sam: And if you don't believe us, try making french fries out of a sports bra!
Sam: [during the webcast] Say yo to the people, Freddie!
Freddie: [turns camera to himself] Yo to the people! How y'all doin' out there---"
Sam: [turns camera back around] That's enough, Freddie.
Freddie: I think Carly's spaghetti is great.
Sam: Then why don't you put some down your pants?
Freddie: 'Kay, but think the loser should have some penalty.
Sam: Hasn't life already penalized you enough?
[Carly sprays Sam with sprayer]
Carly: That's for being mean.
Sam: [Wipes her face] It was worth it.
Spencer: Hey, Freddie.
Freddie: [hits his head on his locker] Aw, man!
Spencer: Whatcha doing?
Freddie: Bleeding! why are you here?
Spencer: We get a bunch of fireworks, right? And not the lightweight consumer-grade stuff, I'm talking Fourth of July razzle-dazzle!
Freddie: [excited] Razzle-dazzle?!
Spencer: Yes, both! Then, we launch the fireworks off the roof of our building and they explode spelling out iCarly.com in the sky!
Freddie: Can we really do that?!
Spencer: No! So, I came up with something else...a sign!
Freddie: [dejected] A sign?
Spencer: A big sign! One that lights up in all different colors, and says "Please go online to iCarly.com"!
Spencer: Nice to see you, Ms. Briggs, or now that I'm older, may I call you Margaret?
Ms. Briggs: You may not.
Spencer: Why?
Ms. Briggs: My name is Francine! Now get out before I give you detention!
Spencer: [chuckles] I'm 26, you can't give me detention.
Ms. Briggs: [To Freddie] Then I give you detention. One week!
Freddie: What?!
Spencer: You don't scare him.
Freddie: Yes she does!
Ms. Briggs: Get out!
Spencer: No!
Ms. Briggs: [to Freddie] Two weeks detention!
Freddie: [grabs Spencer and drags him towards the exit] Dude, get out of here!
Spencer: Wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm not letting this lady--
Ms. Briggs: [looking at her watch] Spencer Shay, you have 30 seconds to leave, or else Freddie gets expelled.
Freddie: [pushing Spencer harder] Go!
Sam: Well say thank you.
Carly: Why? I thought of it. (about the banner)
Sam: Yeah, but I thought of watching TV.
Freddie: What's that?
Carly: Soggy banner. Our plan to get more viewers didn't go too well.
Sam: Yeah, kind of like how the Titanic staying afloat didn't go too well.
Carly: Good job, Spencer! You too, Freddie.
Freddie: Thank you, Carly. In your face, Sam.
[Sam makes a face at him]
[A crash is heard behind Spencer]
Carly: What's going on out there, Spencer?
Spencer: Well, it seems our sign is so bright and dazzling, it distracted one of the drivers below. [another crash is heard] Actually, two of the drivers -- [more crashes are heard] ...three of the dr -- [yet more car crashes are heard] ...literally many of the drivers below are being distracted by our extremely dazzling sign!
Carly, Sam, and Freddie: Turn it off!
Spencer: Ok, I will now turn off the sign! (Presses multiple buttons and the sign is still on)
Freddie: That's not off!
Carly and Sam: Spencer! Dude!
Spencer: Oh man, I am pressing all of the buttons. Literally all of them trying to turn off the sign!
Freddie: Your gonna overload the circuits!
Sam: (With a disgusting look on her face after seeing the malfunctioned sign) Pee on Carl?!
Carly: Turn that off!
Spencer: I'm trying! Its the stupid cars! Don't look at the sign! Stop beholding the sign! Aw I stepped on my taco!
Officer: What were you thinking? Putting up a sign telling people to "Pee on Carl"?
Spencer: It was a terrible mistake, Officer...Carl.
Freddie: Unbelievable!
Sam: I know! Can you believe this?!
Freddie: I said unbelievable.
Sam: Oh I'm sorry, I thought you said you were dopey and annoying.
Spencer: Okay, so wait, wait, wait. We all failed miserably trying to get you guys more viewers for iCarly. And yet, it is precisely those miserable failures that are getting you guys more viewers for iCarly?
Carly, Sam, and Freddie: [same time] Yeah. That's it. Uh-huh.
Spencer: Insanity!
Related iCarly.com blog posts
Carly's blog: More Viewers for iCarly
Spencer's blog: Why I Don't Like Officer Carl
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First Look: Cocktails at Kenny & Zuke's Deli Bar in Portland, OR
Preview brand-new spots to drink (or fresh new menu items) here.
When Jamal Hassan of Ox Restaurant was approached by Ken Gordon of Kenny & Zuke's Delicatessen to help run the bar program at the new Kenny & Zuke's Deli Bar, he jumped at the opportunity. The goal was to create playful cocktails that would be suitable for breakfast, lunch, or dinner.
"The neighborhood is a drinking neighborhood, and the location was a good fit and great opportunity for Kenny & Zuke's to get into the Portland cocktail world," says Hassan. "I also loved the opportunity to train new bartenders, many of who had little to no extensive classic bartending experience. Instead of coming in with bad habits, they learned good technique from the start." The breakfast cocktail list will include the NY Flip, a cocktail reminiscent of an egg cream which includes cognac and port along with a whole egg and splash of chocolate syrup.
"We wanted to take classic daytime drinks and make them our own," says Hassan. He stresses that cocktails don't need 15 ingredients to taste good. The Cel-Ray Collins, for example, is a trifecta of gin, fresh lemon juice, and Cel-Ray soda. The classic Jewish deli soda has always paired perfectly with pastrami sandwiches, and gin adds an herbal character to the vegetal drink.
"We really wanted to have a Manischewitz cocktail on the menu and experimented with just about every flavor they make," says Hassan. "The Manischewitz Manhattan or Gimlet just did not work, and it wasn't until we started experimenting with rum that we knew we were on to something." The final drink that made it onto the menu, the Manischewitz Daiquiri, is comprised of Appleton Rum, loganberry-flavor Manischewitz, simple syrup, and fresh lime juice.
Take a peek at the drinks they're mixing up at Kenny & Zuke's Deli Bar in the slideshow above.
Kenny & Zuke's Deli Bar
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Balaswami Dikshitar (1786-1859), brother of Muthuswami Dikshitar, was patronised by Manali Muthukrishna Mudaliar, interpreter to the British Governor, Pigot. Introduced by Mudaliar to Western music at a performance of the European orchestra (or band as it was called), attached to the East India Company, Balaswami trained for three years on the violin. A gifted musician, he contributed much towards adapting the instrument for use in Carnatic music. It resulted in his appointment as State Vidwan of Ettayapuram in 1824.
Varahappa Iyer, a minister in the Tanjore Maratha court and a musician himself, was close to the British Governor in Madras. He took an interest in various instruments in the Governor's band. Curiously, his first choice was the piano with its seven octaves, but settled down to learn the violin, which he felt, could be best adapted to Carnatic music traditions. You could not play gamaka on a piano.
In time, he started playing so well that the Governor presented him with a violin. He too, like Balaswami Dikshitar, adapted the violin for accompaniment to the human voice. There is a road named after him in Tanjore in his honour. Krishnaswamy Bhagavathar also learned the instrument around the same time and attained a degree of proficiency.
The person who really popularised the violin to the extent that it became a totally accepted instrument in the rendition of Carnatic music was Vadivelu (1810-1845), of the Tanjore Quartet (all of whom were students of Muthuswami Dikshitar). Vadivelu had the good fortune of being appointed the Asthana Vidwan in the court of none other than the composer-king Swati Tirunal. His encouragement and patronage saw the violin being performed not only as an accompaniment to the voice, but also as an instrument that even played solo passages during a dance performance.
Significantly, in spite of being a Western instrument with technique developed to suit playing Western classical music, the instrument could be adapted to the needs of Carnatic music. Many Western techniques redundant in Carnatic music were simply overlooked and later discarded.
The first of these was the basic way the violin was tuned, held and played. Carnatic music required the violinist to sit cross-legged on a platform. The violin was, therefore, balanced between the chest and the scroll held by the anklebone of the right foot.
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The classic shooter has been reborn on PS3 for a whole new generation of gamers to experience.
This latest iteration in the hugely popular Wolfenstein series brings the Nazi's dark obsession with the occult to life through epic action and blistering first-person shooter combat. Using a powerful arsenal of both occult-enhanced Axis and Allied weapons to fight off a supernatural Nazi force that is full of surprises, players are in for a sizeable challenge.
Taking on the role of series stalwart BJ Blazkowicz, a highly decorated member of the Office of Secret Actions (OSA), you are sent on a special mission into the bowels of the Reich to investigate evidence that the Nazis may possess a new and mysterious power. While behind enemy lines, you discover the Nazis have done much more than develop a new toy, they harnessed the mighty power of the Black Sun through a dark parallel dimension called The Veil, in order to create a weapon of war-ending mass destruction. Right now, you are the only one that can stop them and save the world from their twisted plans of otherworldly domination.
As you progress through the storyline and myriad missions in the game, you will encounter a slew of various enemies' hell bent on stopping you from completing your mission. These include various forms of Nazi infantry wielding pistols, sniper rifles and heavy duty machine guns, as well as the more nefarious and much more dangerous enemies who possess dark powers.
The more formidable foes such as the Heavy Troopers require you to use the Veil to highlight the weak areas of their steel suits and shoot them before they blast you with their Particle Cannons. Other more sophisticated enemies such as the Assassin have the ability to turn invisible and attack you with deadly blades, which again requires you to think smart and use your powers to reveal these silent stalkers.
Supernaturally powered foes known as Scholars have the ability to cloak enemy soldiers in Veil shields, which require you to use your own Veil powers to blast through them and render each one powerless before taking them down. To survive the onslaught of enemies Wolfenstein throws at you, you will need to think smart in battle, utilising each and every one of your powers to your advantage.
Wolfenstein is an open-world game of sorts where players can choose to take on available missions in order they please.
With a huge map to explore - every corner of which is littered with hidden secrets such as intelligence documents, valuables and bags of gold, which can be used in Black Market stores to buy and upgrade new weapons. These missions involve everything from stealing important codebooks, assassinating high ranking officers, freeing hostages and exploring areas of interest such as desolate churches and supposedly empty farmhouses.
Naturally, when BJ arrives on the scene he quickly discovers what the Nazi's have been up to and all out action ensues, requiring a quick trigger finger and utilising a variety of excellent weapons including machine guns, pistols and sniper rifles. Of course, it wouldn't be a Wolfenstein game without the suitably zany sci-fi weaponry brandished by the Nazi forces that you eventually get to wield, including a Particle Cannon and other super guns.
Another staple of the Wolfenstein series is the supernatural. Using a mystical amulet, players possess superpowers called Veil technology. Veil Sight allows players to see in the dark and highlight enemy weak spots, while at the same time allowing you to travel through walls into secret passageways and rooms.
The remaining abilities generate shields, slow down time and allow your weapons to penetrate force fields and shielded enemies in sprawling firefights. When you use each power it drains the energy from your amulet and there are plenty of recharge points located around each area, so you never have to worry about running out during battle.
Battle in Team Deathmatch, Objective and Stopwatch multiplayer modes.
With a lengthy single player campaign that should keep you busy for at least eight hours, there is still plenty more action to be had online in each of the three multiplayer modes made available. These include Team Deathmatch, Objective and Stopwatch. In Objective, players on one team must carry out a specific task while the other team has to do everything in its power to stop them before they achieve their goal. Stopwatch sees both teams take part in objectives, all the while trying to best each other's time scores to win the round. Team Deathmatch sees two teams engage in a mass battle, with the highest scoring team at the end of the round rising victoriously from the brawling ground.
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Rumors that "24's" next president would be a woman inched closer to truth today in this story from the Hollywood Reporter, naming Cherry Jones as the show's next commander-in-chief.
Jones, a Broadway veteran, has appeared in "Erin Brockovich," "The Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood," and "Ocean's Twelve," and in an episode of "The West Wing."
While Fox did not officially confirm Jones' casting — the network is probably saving that announcement for its turn at Press Tour, which kicks off on Sunday — the Tony award-winning actress would be a strong addition to the show, and may go a long way toward making up for last season's wishy-washy Wayne Palmer.
Remember, too, that when "24" begins its next season the 2008 presidential race will be in full swing, which means parallels between the fictional Madam President and Sen. Hillary Clinton will be inevitable.
There's a chance that it'll be too early to predict such a thing; some thought that when "24" came back last January we'd see a lot of copy drawing points of comparison between Barack Obama and Wayne Palmer. But the younger Palmer turned out to be such a snore that it quickly became apparent that bringing any attention to him would be a waste of time. It all hangs on the writing and plot in the end.
But the situation is a little different this time. Obama's candidacy was only a possibility back then, while in January the field will have narrowed to the real contenders — including, one assumes, him. Provided Clinton remains in the running (as if we have to speculate!) all eyes will be on her — and Jones. So there will be people who will watch the show simply to speculate on what sort of commentary the executive producers are telegraphing through the character's actions.
Is that going to be a bonus for Sen. Clinton or another bump in the road on her campaign? We won't know until we watch — and that's the greater coup, when you think about it.
Even folks like me, fans who abandoned last season in boredom and disgust, may check in for the next one if only to check out the producers' ideas of what it would be like to have a woman in the Oval Office during a major crisis.
Yeah, about that: Let's see, Jack has saved us from nukes, bioweapon threats, more nukes, war with the Russians over Chinese agents stealing a component … bleh. What could the next threat be, invasion by alien machines? Don't knock it — the concept seems to be working for Michael Bay.
Back to the whole presidential history of "24's" universe. Give the show its propers — it has given us two African American presidents (and Sherry Palmer, one of the finest visions of a scheming witch there has ever been on television) and offered them up without attempt to explain or build some sort of "after school special" message around it.
In that tradition, let's hope "24" makes us judge its Madam POTUS on her merits and resist the urge to highlight the politics of gender too heavily. Jack Bauer's faithful fans don't have time for that; besides, the windbags on news channels in the real world will be obsessing over that angle enough as it is.


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text: Home > Business Singapore court awards Marcos millions to PNB Agence France-Presse Posted at Aug 16 2012 03:39 PM | Updated as of Aug 17 2012 01:56 AM Share Facebook Twitter LinkedIn SINGAPORE - Singapore's High Court has ruled that more than $23 million seized from the estate of late Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos rightfully belongs to a Philippine bank. In a 77-page ruling obtained Thursday by AFP, Justice Andrew Ang dismissed the rival claims of the Philippine government, a group of human rights victims and five foundations believed to be Marcos fronts. He ruled that the money -- deposited in the Singapore branch of German bank WestLB -- belongs to the now privately-owned Philippine National Bank (PNB). "I am of the view that PNB holds legal title to the funds as trustee of the same," Ang said in his judgement issued Wednesday. The funds, comprising $16.8 million and 4.2 million British pounds ($6.58 million), were part of the alleged illicit fortune that Marcos stashed away in various Swiss bank accounts. Marcos ruled the Philippines from 1965 to 1986, when he was overthrown by a popular revolt. He died in exile in Hawaii in 1989. He first governed as a democratically elected president but declared martial law in 1972, using military force to crush dissent. Marcos and a circle of relatives and cronies allegedly amassed a fortune of up to $10 billion through graft and rigged business deals, much of it stashed overseas. In 1998, Swiss authorities released deposits in Swiss banks to PNB, which in turn transferred the money to various banks in Singapore including WestLB, according to the ruling. WestLB went to court in 2004 to determine the owner of the money after several groups staked claims. Among the claimants was the Philippine government, which based its arguments on a 2003 ruling by the country's Supreme Court that the funds be forefeited in its favour. But the Singapore judge ruled that the Philippine Supreme Court ruling could not be enforced in the city-state. While he dismissed the claims of the human rights victims, the judge said he sympathised with their plight but the court "must act in a principled manner when dealing with such questions of law". Despite numerous cases being filed in the Philippines, no member of the surviving Marcos family has been successfully prosecuted and they continue to live in luxury. Share Facebook Share on Twitter LinkedIn Business,Top Stories,Philippine National Bank,Singapore,ferdinand marcos,Andrew Ang Read More: Philippine National Bank Singapore ferdinand marcos Andrew Ang