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2013 AMSOIL Engine Masters Challenge Contingency Sponsors
The time for our annual festival of horsepower and torque is fast approaching, and we've got a strong list of sponsors this year that should make this competition one of the best and most profitable we've seen in years.
Thanks to some of the absolute best engine component companies in the industry stepping up to support the AMSOIL Engine Masters Challenge (AEMC), and more importantly, the builders themselves, there will be an epic level of potential prize money on the line. Picking the right parts and placing well could be worth up to $87,500 in contingency money. Got your attention, yet? Let us introduce you to the companies and their parts who are working to make 2013 the best year ever for AEMC!
The power-making parts and companies that pay competitors to play!
All the finest machined engine parts in the world assembled with the greatest precision are little more than beautiful hunks of aluminum, steel, and iron without a lubricant that can keep them safely separated by microns of ultrahigh-quality oil as they spin at thousandths of rpm. That's exceedingly important for engines built for the highest levels of performance like the competitors at the AEMC. That's why we're pleased to once again welcome AMSOIL as the Official Title Sponsor of the 2013 Engine Masters Challenge. As in years past, every competitor will be able to choose from AMSOIL's extensive list of formulations and pick out the oil that will be used while their engine is on the dyno. That's an extra level of peace of mind for the competitors since they know the oil will have been strictly monitored to ensure a reliable quality brew. But that's nothing exclusive to EMC; the oil the competitors use will be the same stuff you can order for your own engine through 715-399-8324 or www.AMSOIL.com
Official Fuel System
Contingency Sponsor: Fuel Rails/Logs
When the EMC added electronic fuel-injected engines to the competition several years ago, event organizers began looking for a company that had the right combination of hardware and know-how to supply copious amounts of fuel reliably to competition engines with a wide range of sizes and fuel needs. With a large prize purse at stake, not to mention dozens of finely handcrafted competition engines, it was imperative that the fuel systems be absolutely bulletproof and have zero downtime. The AEMC turned to Aeromotive to spec out two identical fuel systems for the University of Northwestern Ohio's two SuperFlow/DTS Powermark dynos, using fuel pumps, regulators, gauges, and plumbing from Aeromotive's wide range of product inventory. Moreover, each of the dyno's identical fuel systems needed to have the capability of supplying both fuel-injected and carbureted engines at a moment's notice—the kind of flexibility we've come to expect from Aeromotive products. For more on Aeromotive, call 913-647-7300 or go to www.AeromotiveInc.com.
DTS by SuperFlow
Official Dyno
There are many legs of the EMC that support the validity of the competition, but it all falls down without repeatable and reliable dynamometers. We run two dynos to test all the EMC competitors at the University of Northwestern Ohio (UNOH), and not only do they have to be up to the constant task, they have to be versatile and easy to install and remove any engine family in short order. With several dozen engines to test on any given year, we can't have malfunctions and breakdowns. For all of those must-haves, the EMC relies on DTS Powermark dynos by SuperFlow. Known for their ease of calibration and consistency between dynos, all of the competitors test their engines on various DTS systems prior to the EMC to ensure they know exactly what to expect when they roll their DTS dyno cart into the cell.
University of Northwestern Ohio (UNOH)
Official Host
Founded in 1920, UNOH is a private, not-for-profit institution with an enrollment of approximately 4,500 students. The University offers programs through three separate schools, the College of Technologies, College of Business, and College of Distance Learning. Of particular interest to hot rodders is the College of Technologies, which represents roughly two thirds of the student body, and offers accredited programs in Automotive Technologies, Diesel Technology, High Performance Motorsports, and Alternate Fuels Technology. If racing is your thing, UNOH began their high performance/motorsports program in 1992 and has been training students with the latest technology available in the industry since. In 2006, they opened the largest facility in the country dedicated to learning the science of high performance vehicles—a seven-acre, 70,000-square foot high-performance motorsports complex filled with cutting-edge technology and equipment. Students are trained on all brands of high performance cars, both domestic and imports, with focuses on topics such as welding and fabrication, engine machining and building, steering and suspension, drivelines, fuels, electronics, ignitions, and accessories trends. To find out more or to enroll, call 419-998-3120 or log on to www.UNOH.edu.
Official Muffler
We're happy to tell engine builder competitors that Flowmaster will once again be the official muffler for the 2013 AEMC. The Outlaw Series race muffler is Flowmaster's smallest and lightest race muffler to date, and can easily handle the power output of the AEMC's top competitors. The Outlaw muffler generally produces more power than open headers, while taking the "edge" off that open-header sound. These race mufflers are designed to be used at racetracks requiring mufflers, and are available in two compact lengths and tubing sizes, including 3.00-, 3.50-, 4.00-, and for the AEMC, a 5.00-inch diameter. The Flowmaster Outlaw spec muffler for the AEMC will ensure that competitors will encounter zero flow restrictions, while maximizing available torque within the 3,000- to 7,000-rpm scoring range of the competition.
VP Racing Fuels
Official Fuel
For the 2013 running of the AEMC, Popular Hot Rodding magazine is pleased to announce that VP Racing Fuels will be the official fuel with their street-legal 100-octane VP100. With a compression limit of 11.5:1 and an rpm ceiling of 7,000 rpm, the competing engines in the 2013 AEMC can rely on VP Racing Fuels' VP100 for safe, consistent, powerful results. VP100 (aka StreetBlaze 100) is a 100-octane unleaded gasoline that is specifically engineered for high-performance muscle cars; it is a CARB-legal fuel that's environmentally friendly and street-legal in most areas. It contains no metal compounds and won't harm catalytic converters or oxygen sensors. In normally aspirated engines, VP100 allows for higher compression and more advanced timing; VP100 is formulated for use in cast-iron head engines with compression ratios up to 12:1, and in aluminum-headed engines up to 14:1. Oxygenated with ethanol, VP100 significantly outperforms premium grade unleaded pump gas. To see how VP Racing Fuels can help your engine, contact VP at 812-878-2025, or go to www.VPRacingFuels.com and click on "Ask Our Tech Experts."
Contingency Sponsor: Throttle Body
Twenty years ago when Mustang racer and machinist John Mihovetz saw that the available throttle bodies for the growing Mustang scene were neither large enough, nor built tough enough, he had no reservations about building a better mousetrap. As soon as he opened Accufab and started building billet aluminum throttle bodies, not only were they coveted by all serious late-model Mustang enthusiasts, they were the envy of fuel injection manufacturers everywhere. The bar was now set higher, and within a few years, all manufacturers would seek to follow Accufab's higher standard of flow capacity, ruggedness, and aesthetics. Throughout all of it, Mihovetz and the Accufab crew has constantly pushed the limits of throttle body design under the harshest racing conditions in Fun Ford, NMRA, PSCA, NMCA, and NHRA competition. The steady refinement and evolution of Accufab throttle bodies has made them the standard of the industry, and that has spilled over into an increasingly wide product assortment spanning most makes and models of engines, including Ford, Chevy, LS, and Mopar. For more info on Accufab throttle bodies, call 909-930-1751 or fill your shopping cart at their website www.AccufabRacing.com.
Contingency Sponsor: Spark Plugs
For over 100 years, the iconic Champion brand has added fire to the fuel in every kind of combustion engine. From aviation to motorsports, the Champion brand has been a part of combustion development in every type of engine. Champion uses a proprietary approach in designing the entire line of automotive spark plugs. From the use of iridium and precious metal technologies, to F.I.S.S. resistor technology and MLR technology, Champion engineers and manufactures spark plugs in an array of materials and designs to provide enhanced ignition for racers and hot rodders running high compression and rpm, as well as direct OE replacements. Proven expertise in engineering and manufacturing OE components for the major automotive manufacturers, as well as success at the track, translates into reliable maintenance solutions for technicians, hot rodders, and racers. Champion's goal is always to adhere to the industry's toughest standards—and to yours. Call them at 888-800-9629 or go to www.ChampionSparkPlugs.com.
Contingency Sponsor: Engine Fasteners
Back in 1968, racing enthusiast Gary Holzapfel saw that many of his friends' broken engines were caused by fastener failure. At the time, there were no commercially available studs and bolts up to the challenge, so Holzapfel called upon his many years of fastener- making experience as a leading aerospace subcontractor and founded Automotive Racing Products (ARP). In the ensuing years, ARP has grown from a backyard garage workshop into a diversified manufacturer with a combined area in excess of 200,000 square feet. These include forging, machining, finishing, and packaging/warehousing facilities in Santa Paula and Ventura, California. Today, ARP's product line contains thousands of part numbers, and has expanded to include virtually every fastener found in an engine and driveline. These range from high-performance OEM replacement parts to exotic specialty hardware for Formula 1, IndyCar, NASCAR, NHRA, marine, and, of course, the AEMC! For technical support, call 800-826-3045, or log on to www.ARP-Bolts.com.
Bryant Racing
Contingency Sponsor: Crankshaft
Any serious engine builder knows that the backbone of an engine is the crankshaft—it turns the reciprocal motion of pistons into usable rotational motion. In high-performance engines, that job can't be done by just any piece of steel, because while strength is a very important attribute, it is the precision and balance characteristics that allow it to survive. Moreover, if the reduction of friction isn't made a priority, the engine may very well last, but it most certainly will not win. Since 1983, Bryant Racing has made precision racing crankshafts their specialty. They're so serious about it, crankshafts are their only product. Bryant uses only U.S.-made Timken billet steel for their cranks, and all manufacturing processes—including machining, heat treat, cryo, temper, lightening, knife-edging, rifle drilling, hand-detailing, chamfering, ion plasma nitriding, balancing, and even REM isotropic superfinishing—are all done in-house. And while Bryant specializes in building custom billet steel crankshafts from your specifications, they do maintain a ready stock of many favorite makes and sizes, including 302 Ford, 351 Ford, small-block Mopar, Pontiac, small-block Chevy, big-block Ford, big-block Chevy, and big-block Mopar. Give Bryant Racing a call at 714-535-2695 or log on to www.BryantRacing.com to see their ready list of inventory.
COMP Cams
Contingency Sponsor: Camshaft/ Lifters/Rocker Arms
When it comes to knowing the secret hellish life of valvetrains, few companies anywhere know more about their inner workings than COMP Cams. Decades of research, development, and refinement under the harshest racing conditions have resulted in cams and valvetrain products that can go the distance in street and competition machines. The full lineup of COMP Cams camshafts, lifters, and rocker arms are offered up to AEMC racers to build their bullets for 2013. From the affordable investment-cast chromoly Ultra Pro Magnum rockers to the state-of-the-art Ultra-Gold ARC Series aluminum rockers, COMP rockers can be relied on to faithfully translate the cam lobe motion into valve action without wasted mass or effort. Hydraulic lifters are mandated this year, so picking one that transfer the cam's profile accurately to those rockers will be critical, and COMP's are among the very best. And, of course, cams! COMP's reputation for excellence is second to none, and their willingness to work with customers to ensure the perfect profile is legendary. For more info, log onto www.COMPCams.com.
Contingency Sponsor: Bearings
Since engine bearings have to withstand the constant punishment of extreme heat and friction, it's no wonder the choice of bearings has become one of the most important decisions an engine builder has to make. When looking for bearings, it's important to find a product that won't seize, which can endure a high capacity of load that is durable over a long period of time, and lives-up to a good reputation. From P- to H-series bearings, Clevite can weather the demands of your high horsepower mill. Clevite is just that company—known for performance and durability, engine builders nationwide rely on these critical components for their custom builds. Clevite has custom tailored their specific line of bearings for OE or aftermarket applications and feature 100 percent lead-free aluminum, utilizing the revolutionary TriMetal and BiMetal formulas. You can find info about Clevite products at 734-975-4777 or www.MahleClevite.com
Cometic Gaskets
Contingency Sponsor: Head Gasket
Cometic's signature Multi-Layered Steel (MLS) head gaskets provide maximum sealing performance and require no sealants. With dissimilar metals often used at the block-to-head junction, the head gasket's role has become more demanding than ever; MLS gaskets are ideal for both aluminum heads on aluminum blocks and aluminum heads on cast-iron blocks since they can withstand the shearing force created by the two materials, thanks to multiple layers of stainless steel. This also gives the gasket its characteristic ability to rebound and resist corrosion. The outer layers are embossed and coated on both sides with Viton, a flouroelastomer rubberbased material that is heat resistant to 250 degrees C/482 degrees F. This Viton coating is designed to meet the demands of a variety of harsh sealing environments, load conditions, and surface finishes. The center or shim layer is uncoated stainless steel, which can be varied to accommodate multiple thickness requirements. Cometic head gaskets are available in a wide range of configurations including custom specifications to meet your individual needs. For more information on Cometic gaskets and their various features, visit www.Cometic.com or call 440-354-0777.
Crane Cams
Contingency Sponsor: Lifters
For the 2013 AEMC, the rules require functional hydraulic lifters, with both flat tappet and roller lifters eligible for competition. It may not be a well-recognized fact, but a hydraulic lifter is the most precise component in an engine. For the lifter to provide the self-adjusting function of the hydraulic circuit, the tolerance of the internal plunger to the lifter body is ultracritical, and the lifter's valving must provide reliable control. Crane provides a variety of hydraulic lifters designed to meet the needs of a high-performance application, with flat tappets available in variations including Anti Pump-Up performance hydraulic lifters, Hi-Intensity lifters, and Special Race Design hydraulics. These lifters rely on optimization of the micro tolerances of the mechanism to control bleed-down and their exclusive internal valving provides the metering for valvetrain control in a high-performance application. Crane's hydraulic roller lifters have developed a reputation in the industry as a top quality product. These lifters are available for retrofit applications allowing a roller arrangement in many engine types equipped only with flat tappets. Find out more about Crane's lifter offerings at www.CraneCams.com or give them a call at 386-310-4875.
Contingency Sponsor: Pistons
CP-Carrillo's experience in producing pistons for high-performance street cars and racing engines has made them an industry leader in both custom and off-the-shelf performance pistons. Custom domestic pistons comprise the majority of CP-Carrillo's workload, and the company takes pride in providing custom pistons that are at the forefront of technology and design. On a recent visit to CP-Carrillo's Irvine, California, facility, we witnessed a well-equipped engineering department with state-of-the-art software that allowed them to design pistons that are ever lighter, stronger, and more durable. Likewise, CP-Carrillo's manufacturing plant encompasses some 32,000 square feet of CNC equipment and a climate-controlled inspection department to ensure their customers get accurate and consistent quality. CP-Carrillo also offers a complete line of off-the-shelf racing pistons for domestic engines; these popular inventoried pistons are manufactured with the same rigorous inspection criteria as their custom pistons, but are available for same-day shipping. For more information on CP-Carrillo pistons, call 949-567-9000 or log onto www.CP-Carrillo.com.
Contingency Sponsor: Carburetor
With classic modular carburetor performance, tunability, and modern looks, Demon offers a wide array of sizes and styles to choose from—including King Demon, Race Demon, Mighty Demon, Speed Demon, and Road Demon. It's no wonder Demon carburetors are the go-to fuel mixers for top engine builders everywhere—their quality and feature set offer value typical of carburetors costing far more. Some of those perks include a billet baseplate with integral Idle-Eze, billet metering blocks, replaceable air bleeds, patented large sight windows, four-corner idle adjustability, multiple vacuum ports, and replaceable idle feed restrictors. Moreover, as the only carburetor with patented contoured air entries, Demon carburetors have outstanding flow characteristics that can be measured not only on the dyno at full song, but out on the street with excellent throttle response and midrange power. To learn more about Demon carburetors, call 270-901-3346 or log on to www.DemonCarbs.com.
Diamond Racing
Contingency Sponsor: Pistons
Since 1968, Diamond Racing has been producing some of the highest quality racing pistons available. In the '70s, '80s, and early '90s, Diamond Racing quickly became known for its championship-winning engines and the custom forged racing pistons powering them. Building on their success with racers from the late '90s to the current day, Diamond has solely dedicated itself to manufacturing forged pistons with only the most advanced machinery so they can offer their customers the state of the art in machining. That dedication and reinvesting into their manufacturing capabilities has been noted by racers and Diamond pistons are widely used at the AEMC and all levels of motorsports. For us street-level hot rodders, Diamond has also expanded its shelf stock inventory to include hundreds of stocking part numbers, most of which can be shipped on the same day. To find out more, call 877-552-2112 or go to www.DiamondRacing.net.
Eagle Specialty Products
Contingency Sponsor: Crankshaft/Connecting Rods
Eagle's ESP Armor surface treatment on crankshaft and connecting rods is very slippery, and that equals horsepower. In testing, an Eagle crankshaft treated with ESP Armor was worth as much as an extra 30 hp on a 700hp engine, and in the AEMC where even 1 hp can be the margin between winning and losing, an Eagle crank with ESP Armor can provide a huge advantage. It's no wonder so many AEMC competitors choose to run Eagle cranks! The 30hp figure was from an engine test run by Eagle by an independent lab, and was performed on an engine that had its untreated crankshaft dyno tested, then ESP Armor treated, then dyno'd again. According to Eagle, "The surface finish is near perfect with ESP Armor. The improved surface allows oil to glide effortlessly along the part, greatly reducing running friction and improving oil shedding. Oil temperatures will be lower. Bearing wear is reduced. Durability is increased. And most importantly, less friction means more power." For more info on Eagle products and ESP Armor, log on to www.EagleRod.com or call 662-796-7373.
Eastwood Company
Contingency Sponsor: Engine Paint
You can argue that painting an engine has almost no bearing on a car's performance, but there is no denying that the engine bay—and the jewel that resides inside—is the make-or-break showcase of any proud muscle machine. A nicely painted engine shows off pride and craftsmanship, and sets the tone for any serious street machine. Eastwood's Ceramic Engine Paint is the ultimate choice in engine coatings, for both its looks and its durability. Everything you need to paint your motor with Eastwood's 2K Ceramic Engine Paint is included in this kit. These super durable engine paints are fortified with nano-ceramic particles that will withstand temperatures of up to 650 degrees F. Moreover, each color has been painstakingly researched to match the original factory color, and the urethane-based paints can be brushed on or applied with a spray gun. For more info, contact Eastwood at 800-343-9353, or log on to www.Eastwood.com.
Contingency Sponsor: Fuel Injection
FAST stands for Fuel Air Spark Technology, and when you take those things into consideration, what you have is total engine control. Applying that control seamlessly with mechanical parts, electronics, and a user interface that engine builders and performance enthusiasts can readily use on their own engine projects is what FAST is all about. What the team at FAST strives for is providing the performance enthusiast with a one-stop shop for any fuel-injection need, doing the homework with EFI product development to make the change to EFI as user-friendly and effective as possible. From the start, FAST has been an innovator in EFI control systems, with groundbreaking components and software that bring EFI within reach of professional and novice performance fans alike. We have used the FAST system for many of our own performance engine projects, and our experience has consistently shown that FAST EFI achieves results. Whether you are looking for a state-of-the-art multipoint injection system or a simple TBI, FAST has the components to bring the advantages of EFI to any engine. For more info, call FAST at 877-334-8355 or go to www.FuelAirSpark.com.
Contingency Sponsor: Gaskets
Few things are frowned on more in the motorsports and engine building world than leakers. They can create dangerous conditions and shut down races, and even dyno competitions like the AEMC. Plus, from a practical standpoint, leaks create unsightly messes that make engines and cars unpleasant to work on. Fel-Pro knows this and has always endeavored to offer the highest quality gaskets with the highest resistance to leakage with any type of automotive fluid. They're one of the brands we always ask for when swapping parts on daily drivers or project cars. This year the AEMC competitors can once again rely on the consistent quality and excellent sealing of PermaTorque MLS head gaskets. For more info on Fel-Pro, go to www.FelPro-Only.com.
Contingency Sponsor: Cylinder Heads/ Intake/ EFI
It's rare when you can say a company invented an entire product category that then becomes the linchpin of an entire industry, but that's exactly what Edelbrock did when they opened their doors in 1938. Cylinder heads were one of the first jobs they tackled, followed by intake manifolds, and over the decades Edelbrock has pushed the performance envelope offering not only value-packed bolt-on parts for the weekend warrior, but state-of-the-art competition heads for the professional racer. Edelbrock's workforce stands out on the design and manufacturing side of things with the latest tools, including computational flow dynamics, 3-D design software, rapid prototyping, an in-house pattern making facility, and their very own U.S.-based foundry located in San Jacinto, California. All this translates into cylinder heads and intake manifolds that make big power, that fit well, and that don't cost an arm and a leg. Continuing their push into technology, Edelbrock's E-Street and Pro-Flow EFI systems have helped street hot rodders get EFI with ease, and racers create consistent power to win races. Check out all of these awesome parts and more at www.Edelbrock.com.
Innovators West
Sponsors Contingency: Damper
Irrespective of how good an internal balance job is, there are incredible forces of acceleration and deceleration that occur in just a single crankshaft rotation. This sets up resonant vibrations within the crankshaft and it's important to dampen these forces reliably over a wide range of rpm and load conditions. If not, mechanical carnage will occur. Low-cost dampers just don't have the ability to cover the wide range of operating conditions experienced by performance engines over the long haul. The experts at Innovators West, however, have made it their mission to provide the highest quality of crankshaft dampers for the AEMC; their SFI-certified dampers (spec 18.1) have been the go-to choice for top engine builders for over 25 years. Inside every Innovators West damper is a free-floating wet-friction clutch pack assembly that uses spring-loaded inertia rings to dampen crankshaft harmonics over a wide rpm range. The rings work in conjunction with clutches to provide outstanding damping action. That action does generate some heat, and Innovators West uses a small amount of fluid inside that acts as a lubricant and as a heat sink. Find out more from Innovators West at 785-825-6166 or www.InnovatorsWest.com.
Jon Kaase Racing
Contingency Sponsor: Cylinder Head Category
In the Ford world, you'll be hard pressed to find anybody, or any company that knows more about Ford engines than Jon Kasse and Jon Kaase Racing. Before starting his own company in 1979, Jon Kaase learned the Ford engine building ropes with legendary Ford racer, Dyno Don Nicholson. Since then, Kaase has sent numerous Pro Stock and Pro Mod racers to the winner's circle with his engine-building talent. And now all racers and street enthusiasts can take advantage of all that cumulative knowledge—so long as you're building a Ford. Four-time AEMC winner Jon Kaase currently has bare and assembled cylinder heads for 385-series 429/460 big-blocks (P-51), Ford Hemi "Shotgun" (Boss '9), and small-block Windsor (P-38)—all of which have class-leading flow dynamics for excellent power on the street and at the track. Kaase also offers his own take on the 4V CHI Cleveland, Pro-Filer big-block, Super Cobra Jet, Trick Flow A-460, and Ford Pro Stock Hemi heads. To find out how Jon Kaase Racing can put your Ford at the head of the pack, log on to www.JonKaaseRacingEngines.com or call 770-307-0241.
Holley Performance Products
Contingency Sponsor: Carburetor/Intake Manifold/EFI/Headers
Holley Performance Products has some of the most storied names in hot rodding such as Holley, Hooker, Weiand, and Flowtech. AEMC competitors can use their extensive catalogs to build huge power and make money! When you add both the Holley and the Weiand intake manifold catalogs together, you get one of the largest pools of raw horsepower anywhere. Through the years, Holley and Weiand have amassed a significant selection of intake manifold applications, including those for small- and big-block Chevy, small- and big-block Ford, small- and big-block Chrysler, Hemi, and most recently, a complete line of carbureted and fuel-injected LS products. Hooker Headers are legendary and have been on many record-setting racers over the decades and are a continual favorite with hot rodders for both fit and quality, and the FlowTech brand extends those offerings even further with full exhaust systems and emissions-legal late-model parts. Holley's carbs need no introduction; they're the oldest brand of performance carbs and one of the most respected. Their line of EFI systems lives up to that fuel delivery reputation and covers the gamut from easy street car retrofits, to top level racing. Log on to www.Holley.com and see how they handle all your fuel delivery and exhaust needs.
Contingency Sponsor: Crankshafts/Camshafts
Despite their similar appearances, not all crankshafts are created equal. Strength, for instance, is determined not only by the type and purity of materials used, but also by the heat treatment during and after machining, and even the nuances of the machining process itself. There is no substitute for decades of research and development, and the body of knowledge that can only come from serving the racing industry for nearly a half century. Memphis-based Lunati is such a company, and their crankshafts are sought after by racers in all venues of competition. Lunati's jump into camshaft manufacturing in 1968 soon made them a household name with professional racers and weekend warriors alike. Lunati's cam-grinding prowess was evident in win after win in drag racing and circle track. Lunati's dedication to cutting-edge cam technology endures, thanks to a dedicated group of owner/racers who are motivated by one thing: They just want to go faster. To see how Lunati can help you get to the finish line quicker, call 662-892-1500 or log on to www.LunatiPower.com.
Mahle Motorsports
Contingency Sponsor: Pistons/ Piston Rings
Every Mahle Motorsports piston is backed by 90-plus years of racing heritage and technology. From the invention of the first aluminum piston to the most advanced design and machining processes being used today, Mahle has delivered unmatched performance and durability. Mahle's light-weight, low-drag, design-specific forgings are machined with close attention given to ring groove quality, tolerances, and consistency, and all Mahle Motorsports pistons are dual or triple coated, adding protection and maintaining consistent performance. That's why you'll find them in all levels of motorsport from NASCAR to IndyCar. The rings are just as advanced; Mahle pioneered the use of piston ring simulation and computer development to engineer rings that provide "free" horsepower by minimizing friction. Ultra flat ring flanks and precision finishing also maximize ring-to-piston sealing. To learn more and find your application, call them at 888-255-1942 or go to www.MahleMotorsports.com.
McKeown Motorsport Engineering
Contingency Sponsor: Engine Block
Mark McKeown has always brought small-block Ford powerhouses that were among the healthiest ever to see competition. The knowledge gained in EMC competition, plus a wealth of expertise in drag racing, has resulted in McKeown Motorsports' new Titus Cleveland block in both cast-aluminum alloy and cast iron. The Titus block is designed with many new features, including a larger bore capability (4.202-inch max), and a redesigned oiling system with mains priority oiling. On Titus blocks, the main webs have also been designed solid for the greatest amount of material with a 4.38 bore center, and the cam tunnel has been configured to allow stock and larger base circle cams with stock or larger cam bearings. Moreover, the Titus is available in the standard 9.2-inch deck height or 9.5 deck height (custom deck heights are available by special order). During the 2012 AEMC, McKeown Motorsports used a Titus aluminum block to build a 444ci Cleveland that made 932 hp with Edelbrock SC1 heads (shown). For more info, call 301-932-9292, or log on to www.RaceCrateEngines.com.
MSD Ignition
Contingency Sponsor: Ignition System/Spark Plug Wires
Whether you're racing professionally or prowling the streets, an ignition system failure will leave you dead in the water. Reliability goes hand in hand with performance, and when a company delivers both, it's a winning combination. No other company has rivaled the presence and reputation of MSD in ignition systems. Anywhere performance and racing engines are found, so too are MSD ignition products. It takes years of delivering products that get results to achieve the unique following and widespread acceptance of a company like MSD, which is why EMC competitors trust them. The MSD team includes highly trained engineers, technicians, assembly specialists, and a host of performance enthusiasts. Together, this organization designs, develops, tests, and manufactures the entire line of MSD products including ignition controls, coils, timing accessories, and spark plug wires. MSD is housed in three buildings and includes four engine dynos, two chassis dynos, and complete CNC machining centers. Visit them at www.MSDIgnition.com, or contact them by phone at 915-857-5200.
Contingency Sponsor: Engine Controller
Though Megasquirt engine controllers are not well known to the general domestic hot rodding community, they have over the decades built a strong following among hard-core fuel-injection enthusiasts and engine builders for their robust engineering, large feature set, and cost effectiveness. Megasquirt's range of stand-alone engine management systems are intended for DIY installation, and most of those installs are of the self-tuned variety. Megasquirt offers the homegrown hot rodder a variety of engine control systems, ranging from the entry-level batch-fire fuel-controlonly type, all the way up to the sequential multi-port variety with ignition control and full water immersion resistance. Moreover, Megasquirt systems support over 50 different ignition modes, including GM LS1 and Chrysler Gen III Hemi. Most systems also offer features like closed-loop operation, wide-band control, staged injection, knock control, wide-band AFR target tables, and diagnostics as standard. Better yet, you'll find the prices on Megasquirt engine control systems to be exceptionally affordable, so if you're looking to go EFI, log on to www.DIYAutoTune.com.
Performance Distributors
Contingency Sponsor: Ignition Distributor
We've used DUI distributors in many of our high-powered project cars at Popular Hot Rodding, and they've always proven powerful and reliable, year in, year out. Their robust HEI construction is designed to operate reliably up to 9,000 rpm, and the DUI's performance is further aided by a high-output, high-dwell Dyna-Module, an integrated high-output coil, a no-resistance rotor bushing, and a hand-fitted advance system. Racers can also opt up for the instant timing knob, which allows fast and accurate changes to ignition timing without the need for a timing light. DUI distributors are available for small-block and big-block Chevy, Buick V-8, Oldsmobile V-8, Pontiac V-8, Cadillac V-8, Ford small-block (Windsor and Cleveland), Ford FE, Ford 429/460, Chrysler small-block, Chrysler big-block (low-deck and RB), Chrysler Hemi (first- and second-gen), and AMC V-8. Find your Performance Distributor parts by calling 901-396-5782 or log on to www.PerformanceDistributors.com.
Racing Head Service (RHS)
Contingency Sponsor: Cylinder Heads
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Hey you guys.
Balfe is a trailer composer not someone who composes real scores. He helps Hans out on his projects and occasionally may have a good idea. He is not an artist, simple as that.
Listen to the 'scores' he composed. At best, marginal efforts in sound libraries, they are just utterly shitty. The epitome of that is Terminator Genisys that even fans of the franchise found embarassing (and that is for a series based on synth scores). The samples are especially abhorrent
How he climbed to compose music for real films is a mystery. Go back to one of his earliest scores, the 2009 'score' for Ironclad, to find how utterly disappointing his work has been all the way throughout his career.
Balfe is a hack. He will never be considered a real composer. The industry knows Hans is pushing him and once that attention goes somewhere else, as it does with Hans frequently, Balfe will be immediately forgotten. Tell me - who actually wants a Lorne Balfe score for their film!!
You rapid fans supporting his work will be laughed at as being idiotic symbiotic followers. Get a fragging grip.
Balfe is not a composer.
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2018-02-22 16:03:11
Balfe is not a composer, but still he gets to compose dozens of films and shows every single year, wow. He must be doing something good if he is on of the most busiest composers out there, don´t you think? Or you want to tell me that every producer, director or whoever hires him is deaf? Do you know how many films had to be re-scored by Balfe in the past few years?
Edmund Meinerts
2018-02-22 16:03:34
Guys, I know a lot of you probably think I'm an overly critical snob, but next time you do, just remember this guy and realize how much worse I could be. :p
Edmund Meinerts
2018-02-22 16:05:32
Eh, Mr. Ellipsis, I have to take issue with your appeal to popularity. Justin Bieber sells millions of records. That doesn't make his music good. Last year's piece of crap pointless Beauty and the Beast remake made a frankly terrifying amount of money at the box office. Doesn't stop it being a piece of crap.
2018-02-22 16:46:49
LOL. I guess this "Balfe" guy is one of those trolls from Stop RCP group.
2018-02-22 17:20:45
These comments by "Balfe" are comical.god knows where such venom comes from . Maybe an ex employee probably.he was correct on one point .He is indeed a trailer composer.He just did the mission impossible trailer!!!
Hybrid Soldier
2018-02-22 18:43:18
lol it's too funny the guy even spent the time of typing all this...
Some people apparently have very boring lives on this planet !
2018-02-22 21:09:18
"Listen to the 'scores' he composed. At best, marginal efforts in sound libraries, they are just utterly shitty."
Blackwood might want to have a word with you.
2018-02-23 03:40:28
Okay, so I'm not a fan of Balfe's; I think it's objectively the case that much of his music is very, very similar to work he's already done (seriously, how many times has he made obviously variations of Journey to the Line / Time?). However, his best work is both highly creative and emotionally compelling IMO, not sure how one could expect more than that. Ironclad is actually a good example of this
2018-02-23 07:25:19
Ian - do you honestly think Genius or Churchill are no good !!!!!this site is so weird.when people slag of Balfe it's okay but we dare say he is actually good then people get mad about it .Bit pathetic.The guy has been nominated twice for an Emmy so can't be that bad!Haters give it a rest and get a life please and let us fans just enjoy the music
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2018-02-23 08:15:38
Listen to Ghost in the Shell. If you can come back here with a straight face and call Balfe a musical hack makes you a baboon humping cuck-monger. Balfe's talent and contribution is so incredibly apparent. If you can't hear that, you couldn't hear a dump truck drive through a nitroglycerin plant.
Edmund Meinerts
2018-02-23 11:47:18
Michael, why the fuck are you having a go at Ian when he literally said in the comment above yours "his best work is both highly creative and emotionally compelling IMO"? People aren't complaining about you fanboys for liking Balfe's work, they're complaining about you flying off the rails about nothing.
"He's been nominated for awards so he must be good" - worst argument ever.
2018-02-23 13:59:45
Edmund give it a rest .We all get the point that you don't think Balfe is great but go away and listen to How To Train Your Dragon on loop.You come off very childish.Therenis nothing wrong with the argument about the Emmys either.You May not like it because it shows you thoughts are in the minority......thankfully.most importantly ——/ Happy Birthday Meastro
2018-02-23 14:20:53
"why the fuck are you having a go at Ian"
Edmund just chill !!!!!!!!
In other news ... Happy Birthday Balfe
2018-02-23 14:35:50
Having your name in the credits does not mean you have been artistically involved. The Lorne Balfe empty monicker now translates to this message: 'cheap Zimmer emulation Zimmer was not bothered to do but sent his coffee boy to look after. There is no orchestra, samples are from 2002 as recent ones cost actual money.'
Edmund Meinerts
2018-02-23 14:56:43
I defend a guy who is being a rare voice of moderation around here and now I'm the childish one. That about sums up the readership at this site. At least, a significant proportion of it. I didn't even say anything about whether I like Balfe or not. I actually do like him a fair amount. But anything short of God-worship and mass human sacrifice at the holy feet of the Mighty Lorne is insufficiently devout for the likes of you guys, huh?
Again, attempting any sort of nuanced discussion is a total waste of time around here these days.
2018-02-23 16:08:34
Edmund — move on you.You are boring with these dull comments
Edmund Meinerts
2018-02-23 16:17:32
At least I don't change my name every time I post.
2018-02-23 16:26:27
Shots Fired!!
2018-02-23 16:33:07
Edmund haven't you got a job! How come you have so much time to be writing demoralizing and negative comments .At least my excuse is im at "class" !!!!!
2018-02-23 20:40:52
Happy Birthday Maestro
Mike (OTM)
2018-02-23 21:26:59
Lorne Balfe is good, many times. Lorne Balfe isn't the best composer ever.
There. I said my opinion. xD
2018-02-24 00:15:41
Jesus Christ, what a mess! What is wrong with you Balfe fanboys? Edmund comes in trying to settle down the situation and add some nuance and you just curse him out? He even admits to liking Lorne, basically states how the top comment is far too harsh, defends Balfe, and all he does against him is call out Michael for borderline bullying someone else into worshiping Balfe.
After all of that, all you can possibly say in response to him is "go away you John Powell fanboy"? For saying one thing against a guy basically being a mindless fanboy. Which by the way is an unbelievably poor argument because I've seen Edmund criticize Powell scores before. Is Edmund not aloud to prefer Powell? He didn't even bring his music up once in this discussion! Oh no I can see the responses now...
"superultramegoo go listen to Transformers 5 for the 50th time.we dont need youre stupidumb comments here !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Balfe has won many awardso tyou cant say any thing bad about him you Jablonsky fnaboy.stop with these demoralizing comments.!
Edmund Meinerts
2018-02-24 00:59:08
Appreciate the voice of support. :)
2018-02-24 01:06:38
The point is Edmund and others don't need to keep getting upset about Balfes success.Dont reply and just focus on other conversations.No one here is interested in hearing anyone bashing any of the great composers on this site from Remote. Grow up or move on.
2018-02-24 01:08:44
Edmund Meinerts
2018-02-24 02:01:48
There you go again, accusing me of being upset about Balfe's success when I never said anything like that. Stop putting words in my mouth.
2018-02-24 02:12:04
Can we please change the subject !!!!!!!!it is so boring now.This page is ment to be about the sound track to 12 Strong
2018-02-24 02:48:15
Upset about success? Sounds like someone doesn't know a thing about reasonable criticism. :p
If anyone likes Balfe, then good on them. I only get annoyed when people decide he's suddenly the most amazing thing ever, which he really isn't. Even on his most competent scores, it's unlikely many would recognize him as one of the greats. Respect him, sure, but not think he's out of this world. Especially if people are still gonna be excited about hearing the work of someone else when a different person is hired (i.e. what JL might've been).
2018-02-24 03:12:58
Boring . Talk about the actual soundtrack or change the subject
2018-02-24 03:34:20
"Boring . Talk about the actual soundtrack or change the subject."
Ok, so someone else gets us on this topic, an arguement occurs, and NOW, only when you've realized you're losing the arguement, do you decide that this page is only for 12 strong. Which it's not. This is a forum we talk about whatever we want here.
But what a childish and pathetic attempt at avoiding our points. Just dismissively saying "Boring! Change the subject! My ears can't handle this criticism!!! Wah, wah, wah!" I guarantee you the next step after this is going to be petty cursing.
2018-02-24 03:48:11
No need for petty cursing .
We can discuss the soundtrack instead !
Forgotten is cool track.It's definitely one of Bay's best movies. Wish he would make more drama based film obvious with some action. Can't cope with more robots ! The ending of the film is so emotional and this track gave goosebumps at the end. Did sound very similar to the end of The Last Knight
2018-02-24 10:53:39
Pete you are funny, although u demand from others to talk about the actual soundtrack from this page, you start to talk also about another soundtrack. but ok.... i think Forgotten is a very boring track and adds nothing to the actual scene. a variation of his theme from the track Hero would have been much more intense for the ending. sadly we got 9 boring minutes of thematic development and instrumentation. Lorne can do much better as the track Hero from the same soundtrack shows.
2018-02-24 11:16:29
Glad you caught it Rockhound. Think the others were too wound up to notice !!i was trying to be funny.
2018-02-25 05:14:07
Michael - reread the second half of my previous comment. And no, I don't think Genius or Churchill are no good; I wasn't impressed by the second, to be honest, but Genius is really cool - like an updated version of Frost/Nixon, one of my very favorite Zimmer/RCP scores.
Edmund - much appreciated.
Overall, I too am baffled by many of these comments; clearly there is a middle ground between "Lorne is shit." and "Lorne is absolutely amazing.", but this seems to be missed.
And by the way, I'm actually super happy for Lorne's success - I think he deserves it given the quality and quantity of his work, and he seems like a super nice guy to boot (how many composers regularly respond to people on Facebook?). However, this doesn't mean I can't simultaneously point out the fact that much of his work is very, very similar to work he's done previously. Indeed, I think this is more of an issue for Lorne than Hans, perhaps because he takes on sooooooo many projects.
2018-02-25 05:20:47
"I only get annoyed when people decide he's suddenly the most amazing thing ever, which he really isn't. Even on his most competent scores, it's unlikely many would recognize him as one of the greats. Respect him, sure, but not think he's out of this world."
Exactly. Hans, for all the criticism he gets (much of it for good reason), has written some of the best film music of all time (seriously, having listened to huge amounts of Williams and Goldsmith, I still find Science & Religion my favorite cue ever). On the other hand, Lorne has written innumerable adequate-to-good scores, but none that I can recall are iconic. I'd say the closest he's come is in the form of his contributions to some of Zimmer's work (personally, I think his Kick It theme is the most interesting of those in Inception), but even then he hasn't done anything as memorable as Djawadi's theme from Batman Begins.
2018-02-25 08:56:52
Ian - no one is trying to compare Balfe to Zimmer !Firstly there is a 20 year age gap!!!Zimmer will always be the best in my eyes but doesn't harm saying someone else can be good
Still confused why this conversation is still troubling some.I remember saying last year that I thought Lego Batman was one of the best animation scores that year and it caused some to have heart attacks.there are a hand full of people that don't think he is either good or should be working .... we get !!!!
Mike (OTM)
2018-02-25 16:52:46
And @Ian, re: talent of assistants, to add to your point... Kick It was, according to Hybrid, Hans' theme turned into a suite by Balfe...so even there, with his interesting stuff, the nucleus of it is still Zimmer. If you're talking about Training from Begins for Djawadi, ditto there. Hans said that was the first theme he (Hans) wrote for the movie. So in both cases, these guys kinda sound best when expanding on Hans' ideas.
2018-02-25 21:27:34
About the score: Dunkirk's unimaginative copy (regardless of who is the lead author of the Nolan movie score).
Lego, really, was one of the best scores for animation last year. Churchill is a good accompaniment to the film and Genius is a fun listening with many moments that catch the ear.
Unfortunately, 12 strong and Geostorm were disappointing, but it is normal for any composer's career to have ups and downs, especially when working with so many numbers in a single year.
I agree with Mike that there is a very clear difference from when Hans is on a project and when one of his assistants goes to work alone. Pirates, WW and even Tarzan are there as more recent examples, all excellent scores, but you know there's something missing there.
On the problem with "hate" for Balfe, it is not unwarranted. It is a reaction to the exaggerated attention he has received over the past year, which overlaps with that received by other composers who work with universes with fan platforms far superior to those in which Balfe works. Jablonsky has the billion dollar franchise of the Transformers, Djawadi GoT and Henry Jackman has worked with the Marvel movies. Even Powell's entrance to SW might have made some noise, but nothing. None of these projects received such warm reception from the members of this site as Balfe's latest projects (with the exception of HZ, of course). That bothers me a little.
Curious to know what he will do with "Pacific Rim".
2018-02-25 21:56:43
Geostorm is fun, with a nostalgic nods to the old MV scores.
And much better than 12 Strong
2018-02-25 22:29:06
Olive - it totally is unwarranted.
Your points are very un-educated .
Ask yourself this .... why has Balfe worked on every Transformere film ?The Majority of Zimmer's films in the last 15 years and according to ASCAP been an equal composer .Captain Philips for Jackman.Ironman for Ramin .....
2018-02-25 22:53:12
I do not think it has been "uneducated". I even stated the same thing as you in the comment below posted on this same page on february fourth...
Here it is:
"I see that people have always directed some expectation to Lorne's involvement in Zimmer scores and even credit a part of their success to his "Phantom Hand" (in the end he was Zimmer's most enduring assistant, losing only to NGS, who worked with him his entire life in the most different roles). Considering all this is a bit normal to see some people rooting for him every time his name is announced to do something. That's nothing new. One part of the public reserves a certain curiosity about the newest composer who came out from under Zimmer's wings. Many of them had very high expectations about Geoff's PoTC 5 and WW by RGW. And that feeling was shared on the most different internet discussion sites."
2018-02-25 23:04:48
And, frankly, I do not see any problem in Balfe working on the scores of these composers. To say that he has full responsibility for the end result is the same that to say that Mazzaro, AK, or Aruj made up more than 50 percent of his previous and current scores. What we know to be nonsense, mainly in the RCP territory.
2018-02-25 23:14:49
Sorry but those three composers you mentioned have never contributed 50/50 to every score the same way as Balfe has.Boss Baby is the closet and unfortunately they needed Conrad Pope to actually come in and write the most memorable cue . Balfe on the other hand has been a major co composer even though for some reason like on Sherlock Holmes not get a co-credit.
2018-02-25 23:23:37
Lorne has not worked on every Transformers film. He worked on TF 1 and 2 only. Maybe you should educate yourself before accusing everyone who questions you of being uneducated.
Hybrid Soldier
2018-02-25 23:59:05
"Captain Philips for Jackman.Ironman for Ramin ....."
Correction : Captain Phillips for Hans, Iron Man for Hans. :P
2018-02-26 00:48:16
How are you so sure of that? Mazzaro is credited as composer in almost every BvS cues. He and AK have had massive appearances in Inferno, Chappie and even Interstellar... Other composers were also as important as Balfe in Pirates, Da Vince Code, Rush, Lone Ranger, The Holiday, King Arthur... I do not deny the importance of Balfe in Inception, Sherlock and The Dark Knight (along with JNH, Jackman, Wesson and Djawadi), but point out that he was co-composer in almost everything done by Zimmer in the last 15 years is overkill.He was there, yes, but he was never alone.There was a team of RCP guys with him and Zimmer.
2018-02-26 01:22:02
2018-02-26 01:42:17
God not again.Haters give up.
2018-02-26 02:07:38
I do not know how I fell here, but a 2002 Interview...
2018-02-26 02:13:02
Okay, I'm a "hater" for not agreeing that Balfe is responsible for half of the music composed for Transformers, Inception and etc. I'm happy for this. Good night!
2018-02-26 02:40:26
You are now resorting to searching on google on Balfe !havent you got better things to do than try and prove your uselessness point!Come on
2018-02-26 02:43:43
Really ?if he didn't contribute so much he wouldn't be given "producer" all the time.He does a lot so that's that.
2018-02-26 03:04:09
I am in a moment of procrastination before dawn ... I believe you also have nothing more interesting to do than post here at the moment. I give my word that I will not be here for many hours!
I know, I understand and I have no problem with that.
Everything I wrote so far was against it:
"THE MAJORY of Zimmer's films in the last 15 YEARS..."
We know this is only valid for 5 projects (KFP3, Sherlock, Inception, Frost/Nixon and TDKR).
2018-02-26 03:10:16
there are plenty of early HZ scores that sound as bland as Lorne's early scores
2018-02-26 15:09:00
Actually, all early HZ scores are innovative. Name one that coasts on the reputation of Stanley Myers.
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Would love to hear Hybrids opinion ?????sure he can educate you with the facts
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Happy birthday Mr Balfe
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|| 2018-02-13 00:36:28
Balfe was confirmed in some place making music for trailer and promotional material for MI6.
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2018-02-13 12:03:01
Where ?I can't see any.Obviously don't want to get too excited Incase that annoys some of the haters !
Edmund Meinerts
2018-02-13 12:28:24
I love how black and white these fanboy minds are. Some of us don't think the sun shines out of Lorne Balfe's every orifice and suddenly that makes us haters. *shrug*
2018-02-13 17:30:38
It's nothing official for now. It's just rumors.
Information taken from other message boards indicates that he made the music for this trailer.
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And that his latest Twitter post on London captures one of the locations where "Fallout" was filmed.
2018-02-13 23:25:54
About the supposed post on the set of "Fallout", Balfe replied: "I wish! It's actually where I live." Then we go back to nothingness.
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|| 2018-02-12 20:32:42
So maybe Jackman isn't scoring Mission Impossible Fallout after all... all previous records of him being the composer have been wiped from IMDB... so the question still might remain lol. Oh well.
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2018-02-12 22:52:20
Maybe his score was replaced ?
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Pacific Rim Uprising is going to release by Milan Records at April 6th
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|| 2018-02-05 01:31:02
Super Bowl spot just aired. It said "full trailer online now". Anyone seen it yet? Credits?
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2018-02-05 01:43:28
Hey, Joe! What are you doing here?
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2018-02-05 07:32:08
I don't think thats how Hendrix sang it...
2018-02-05 15:14:22
Nope. No credits yet.
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|| 2018-02-02 22:45:57
My wish list about Mission Impossible 6 Fallout by new composer, I think I found a good composer for a good spy action for this movie.
1. Lorne Balfe
2. Daniel Pemberton
3. Steve Jablonsky
4. Junkie XL
5. Trevor Morris
6. David Arnold
7. Ramin Djawadi
8. Rupert Gregson Williams
I Picked those composers might a better deal for Mission Impossible 6 fallout movie. But my opinion, I feel about Brian Tyler if he sign up for Mission Impossible 6 Fallout, then it might sound like Fast & Furious franchise and the expendables too.
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2018-02-03 01:09:54
The only one in that list who can knock it out of the park is Pemberton. He can take the series's sound back to it's jazzy roots which was attempted only by Elfman. And please no Junkie. His MI will be another MoS/Mad Max synthetic drum retread. Wish Kraemer was back. Rogue Nation was the best recorded score in recent times with a clear crisp sound.
2018-02-03 13:03:42
Daniel Pemberton would be my top choice. His score of Man from UNCLE is what Mission Impossible needs and that would be fantastic.
2018-02-03 14:22:21
Pemberton can write melodies . Balfe can .Also they have done the jazz retro score enoughs time.Who mentioned Balfe by the way for Mission ?
2018-02-03 14:44:17
The safest way is to go back to Michael Giacchino.
2018-02-03 14:51:04
No one want safe. Safe is boring. Balfe for me also
Edmund Meinerts
2018-02-03 15:07:54
"Safe is boring. I want Balfe."
2018-02-03 15:21:52
I don't understand why people think balfe is so great... he's yet to write a score that impresses me. I don't want him to go near mission impossible.
2018-02-03 15:42:58
According with a twitter he published, he was not even invited. Probably got off with the director. It happens a lot. After all they are human beings.
I do not see any hatred played against Balfe on this site. Quite the opposite. The few negative reactions I've seen involving his name here (including mine) have never been directed at the man. He is very well on the circuit (everyone admits he is talented) and the audience takes note of what he does. Do not cry for nothing.
2018-02-03 15:43:01
"No one want safe. Safe is boring. Balfe for me also."
What a childlike attitude.
2018-02-03 17:43:32
Sure Edmund wants Powell !!!!!!!
Balfe seems to be the favorite on twitter.mamy people are talking about him and the new trailer getting released at the Super Bowl.Fingers crossed it is him
2018-02-03 22:50:43
Safe is boring...lol. Balfe hasn't written anything that radical or that good. Not saying I want Giacchino, but I don't care for Balfe in movies like this. He had his chance with Geostorm and that was bland.
I rather Henry Jackman scores this than Balfe and I am not really a fan of Jackman.
2018-02-04 01:00:52
Yeah, you are right, but I feel Daniel Pemberton fits with Mission Impossible 6 Fallout because it's fits with his style.
2018-02-04 01:33:07
"eah, you are right, but I feel Daniel Pemberton fits with Mission Impossible 6 Fallout because it's fits with his style."
How do you know if you haven't actually seen the film !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2018-02-04 02:16:28
No, I haven't seen the film yet! But my opinion, I have feelings about Daniel Pemberton will score Mission Impossible 6 Fallout. But if not, then we will find out about tomorrow by the super bowl teaser trailer. If I see Brian Tyler on the preview end credits by end of the trailer. Then I would be disappointed about that.
2018-02-04 02:47:29
Come on ! Daniel Pemberton is not up there with the likes of Elfman and Zimmer and the others that have score the other Mission films.i hope Balfe is doing it because he can sure write action music and an epic theme-even thought there is a cool theme already !
2018-02-04 03:01:52
Twitter seems crazy with who is actually scoring Mission Impossible just like with powelll doing Star Wars ! Balfe seems to be liked the most .
2018-02-04 03:07:10
Right! Twitter goes crazy!!
2018-02-04 03:28:24
What are hashtags? I also have a twitter account.
2018-02-04 03:30:06
Well, I did not see any significant movement on twitter. But many forums, like this one, are commenting on Kraemer's exit and electing possible substitutes.
2018-02-04 03:39:34
People are okay with Balfe's entry, but most believe Brian Tyler's coming.
The reactions (on behalf of Balfe or Tyler) are not as ecstatic as the ones Powell received when word got out that he's with SW.
Everyone is unhappy with Kraemer's non-continuity.
I, in particular, believe Balfe will make the score. He has been sharing film material on social networks. It's inevitable.
2018-02-04 12:10:53
At the Superbowl a trailer will be released, so we will probably will see who will score the movie at the end!
2018-02-04 12:33:23
It better be Balfe . Probably the biggest film of the year and he will nail it
2018-02-04 13:37:17
Hybrid is very quiet on this subject ? Does he know something we all don't !!!!!Go Balfe
Hybrid Soldier
2018-02-04 13:41:48
Because no matter what I would write it'd be interpreted as being a confirmation or not... So I leave the subject to you guys !
2018-02-04 13:53:40
Brian Tyler
2018-02-05 01:31:52
Mission Impossible 6 Fallout trailer is awesome and Badass Henry Cavill I like it. Unhappily, I don't see composer at the end trailer, maybe we will find out the next day.
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Whoever he/she is, it's time to end the game and reveal yourself! xD
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|| 2018-02-04 15:38:35
I don't hate Lorne Balfe as a person or composer. He's a great arranger/additional music writer and has helped write some iconic stuff for TDK Trilogy and Transformers 1 and 2, and Ghost in the Shell and Lego Batman were a ton of fun. But man, with exception of a few people, this chain is the biggest circle jerk of a composer I've ever seen.
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Edmund Meinerts
2018-02-04 16:51:14
The whole of 2017 has been basically one long Balfe circlejerk at this website and I'm a bit baffled as to why. It started with Lego Batman and hasn't let up since. Not sure where all these fanboys have come from. It's like they've leaked over from Twitter or YouTube.
I think Balfe is a solid composer and I admire his productivity, work ethic and ability to competently handle lots of different styles of music. Lego Batman was in my top 10 scores of last year, even. But the response to (IMO not that special) scores like 13 Hours, Genius, Crown s2 and 12 Strong has been ludicrous at times here. There's almost as many comments on those pages as Dunkirk and BR2049, and those are huge movies with scores by the guy who this website is actually focused on.
2018-02-04 18:09:33
2018-02-04 18:13:54
∆ This! x2
2018-02-04 18:36:40
I agree with Edmund whole-heartedly, and I might also add that these fanboys and their ludicrous clamoring are actually starting to make me sick of Balfe, which I try to suppres, because the guy us talented and I usually like his work. Seriously, fellas, shut the fuck up already.
To be perfectly honest, this is starting to feel like some nefarious, unprecedented PR scheme.
2018-02-04 18:57:09
That's what I think. He is a great composer, but not all of his scores have been the best score of the year. I liked a lot his scores for LEGO Batman and Ghost in the Shell, but the others I felt weren't that great.
That said, I think he is a really great person in relation to his fans, because of the Twitter and the release of the GitS score.
2018-02-04 19:59:06
What a rediculous thing to say "starting to make me sick of Balfe". Simply because people are enjoying his music . He has been part of Hans Zimmer world for 15 years so deserves his success.How weird people want to slag someone off.Very immature
2018-02-04 20:27:54
Do you know how an inmature person sounds like?
Like this:
"No one want safe. Safe is boring. Balfe for me also"
You balfe fanboy's sound like little kids that want to eat dessert before dinner.
Hybrid Soldier
2018-02-04 20:38:01
Well don't be stupid then, just ignore...
2018-02-04 20:53:23
even as a big fan, you should be realistic. not every score, your fave composer did, is awesome or great work. you should be honest to yourself in that. the praise for a couple of balfes works is simply not understandable. i dont care who will compose the music for M:I 6. if it is balfe, im ok with that. if it is someone else, im also fine with that. im a trevor rabin fan and ofc i would be happy, if he will do it. but even as a big fan, i know that there a way more competent composers out there for this job, than rabin.
2018-02-04 21:31:12
At first I also thought it was PR, but then reflecting on the role of Balfe in Zimmer scores after 2008 (with TDK), I see that people have always directed some expectation to Lorne's involvement in Zimmer scores and even credit a part of their success to his "Phantom Hand" (in the end he was Zimmer's most enduring assistant, losing only to NGS, who worked with him his entire life in the most different roles). Considering all this is a bit normal to see some people rooting for him every time his name is announced to do something. That's nothing new. One part of the public reserves a certain curiosity about the newest composer who came out from under Zimmer's wings. Many of them had very high expectations about Geoff's PoTC 5 and WW by RGW. And that feeling was shared on the most different internet discussion sites.
But corroborating that this is about PR... xD
The user names are a little similar...
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As of now, the two with the most attachments are Brian Tyler and actually Henry Jackman.. I guess the main editor has worked with jackman on multiple occasions? Just feeding to the fire here maybe, but I wouldn't get your hopes too high for Balfe. Who knows though. Hopefully we learn in just a few hours.
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Wonder if they are using Brian Tyler . What happened with Joe Kraemer?
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|| 2018-02-04 14:21:17
Lorne Balfe is the king
Long live the king
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2018-02-04 14:39:45
I agree if it's not Kraemer again then maybe Giachino again.would be cool to have Balfe but they will want an A list composer on it probably
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Lorne Balfe is the king
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|| 2018-02-02 15:30:04
Via his own twitter account: Joe Kraemer is NOT scoring MI:6... I'd kill for another RCP Mission Impossible score
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2018-02-02 16:17:04
2018-02-02 16:54:54
Rumor is that its Brian Tyler, but I can't find any proof of that at all other than his loose connection to Tom Cruise. Balfe would also be my preference though
2018-02-02 19:27:11
Please not Brian Tyler !!!!!!! If Balfe is doing this then this is best news possible.Finally Balfe is getting a big film
2018-02-03 03:36:54
Balfe had his chance at a big film with terminator genisys. that score is terrible. not sure if the film or the score is worse.
2018-02-03 09:14:41
Terminator was great and he was loyal to the theme.I now getting excited about Mission Impossible it Balfe is doing it .Hybrid do you know ?
2018-02-03 10:02:04
If balfe is doing MI6 I'm buying my tickets tomorrow
2018-02-03 10:37:44
Genius and Crown have showed Balfe is once of the best.Weird to see hatred on this site for him sometimes.If he was so bad why is he so busy!
2018-02-03 12:13:28
John Powell should do MI6!
2018-02-03 12:27:41
Powell or Balfe would be amazing .I wonder why Kramer is not doing it again?
2018-02-03 18:01:12
Terminator was great? LOL
He was loyal to the theme? It was Brad Fiedel and the theme has been in every single film, Balfe is no one special LMAO
2018-02-03 18:23:00
Anonymous - that's not true actually.You will have the sequels started only using the main theme by Fiedel only for the opening titles.I found Balfe used the theme and the infamous motif very successfully.Fiedel even in interviews has mentioned how Balfe is the only one that fully respected the theme.The last mission impossible musically wasn't very original.It was good but very like the TV show.if Balfe is actually do it then he will do a great job I'm sure
2018-02-03 19:26:45
Terminator was great and Balfe brought great emotion to the film.if they bring Zimmer back for Mission that will be great but if it's Balfe then I will be just as happy
2018-02-03 20:53:38
salvation was the only one that only used the theme in the main title.
mission impossible 5 had a great score. many themes, 2 of which were Schiffrin's. I count 5 themes used: main, ethan's, ilsa's, benji's and lane's
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|| 2018-01-24 20:17:12
Lorne Balfe is NOW scoring Pacific Rim Uprising.
That's unexpected
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2018-01-24 20:20:48
I saw him retweet something about the movie the other day and I figured maybe he had signed on late as a replacement... of which I'm pretty happy about lol.
2018-01-24 21:47:35
At one interesting thing about that movie nobody asked for.
2018-01-24 21:54:11
Should have been Djawadi again as he did great in the first one. Lorne will write just another quick weekend score which only seems listenable because he is using some powerfull sounding sample libraries.
2018-01-24 21:58:12
I knew Paesano wasn't up to the task, and yes, they should have hired Ramin again, which they now cannot do, since he is busy with GoT tour. However, now that Balfe is doing it, there is a bigger chance that the old themes would make a comeback at least. Then again, perhaps not, but I'm still glad the PR franchise stayed in RCP family.
2018-01-24 23:37:55
I wouldn't be surprised if Paesano had written the score but ignored Ramin's themes, and considering that "Cancelling the Apocalypse" is in the trailer that's probably not what the producers wanted.
Definitely glad LB is on board, he is on such a hot streak right now. I'm guessing the end result will sound like a mix of Terminator: Genisys and Pacific Rim.
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2018-01-25 02:50:57
Is the gist of it here that Paesano isn't that great or something? I watched the latest Maze Runner and his music there was great, same case as the second Maze Runner... His style really grabs at me.
2018-01-25 03:51:05
He's definitely not a bad composer, but for me personally he just doesn't stand out. His music for the Netflix shows are a perfect example, not bad at all but somewhat generic. I did like the first Maze Runner score though.
2018-01-25 20:27:09
Paesano is good, but not for blockbusters. His Netflix scores are good and MR has some nice tracks, but most of them are just forgettable. And after the awesome theme by Djawadi, I doubt he would've done something cool or memorable. Case in point, his Mass Effect Andromeda score, compare with the previous ones and only one track stood out, barely, that being the main theme which isn't from the previous trilogy.
Now Balfe better keep the theme at least
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If Edmund has such an issue with Balfe . Why is he brought on to re write so many scores and brought in as a "producer" ?he can't be that bad !!!!!!
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|| 2018-01-21 09:30:36
Fantastic soundtrack for an amazing film.
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2018-01-21 17:56:47
So digging this score
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We watched the film last night and is a good solid movie with great action but a big score from Balfe .there seems to be much more thematic material in the film than was is on the soundtrack .agreat start to the year for scores
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|| 2018-01-14 06:18:05
My alternative cover design to this (since I liked "Rescue" so much): https://ibb.co/b8VMrm
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2018-01-14 07:39:10
Love the your album cover idea
2018-01-14 07:56:36
Great music and managed to see a preview of the film and the score is so good with the movie.just the right amount of themes and powerful action music
2018-01-14 12:32:55
Prayers and 12 Strong are really good tracks.does anyone know when the film is released
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|| 2018-01-11 16:05:57
It will have 19 tracks.
Sounds like a non theme based score. The emotional tracks will stand out more than the the action based music which sounds mostly atmospheric.
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2018-01-11 17:32:33
https: //itunes.apple.com /lk/album/12-strong-original-motion-picture-soundtrack/13328 55005
Hybrid Soldier
2018-01-11 19:15:51
Extract added !
2018-01-11 19:40:32
Pretty cool, you can hear a lot of references to his 2017 scores like The Crown, and I'm 100% okay with that. Thanks!
2018-01-11 19:45:22
Interesting... The first 3 minutes seem to be influenced by "Duck Shoot" from The Crown. Also, Dunkirk influence at 5:20.
2018-01-11 20:01:06
I definitely heard the Duck Shoot and Dunkirk reference too, Ahmad! Again, not opposed to it. You can hear a little bit of Geostorm action in there too.
2018-01-11 20:22:58
Well he did write the duck shoot !!! The sample sounds fantastic
2018-01-11 20:49:00
Oh! I didn't know he worked on Duck Shoot/The Crown S1.
By the way, I wasn't criticising. I was just pointing out the references :)
2018-01-11 21:08:49
I hear a lot of Oblivion in 20.000 Feet Above...
the first track sounded interesting
2018-01-11 21:27:24
Holkenborg's 300 at 10:22
2018-01-12 06:02:09
300 !!!! More like listen to Balfes Assasins Creed !What a great action score to start the year off with.Love Balfes work at the moment
2018-01-12 09:15:45
After listening to the album I can't wait to watch the film. Nice to hear hard action music but with some melodies . It always seems to be one or the other these days
2018-01-12 11:50:39
Balfe going back to his Call of Duty style of music which is cool
2018-01-12 12:19:43
Will there be a CD release as well?
2018-01-12 12:28:16
Great soundtrack with great mix of orchestra and electronics
2018-01-12 12:33:00
this score sounds like a mix of Dunkirk, Sicario, some Man of Steel drum parts and sadly a very uninspired main theme. the title track is the stand out cue and 2-3 other tracks sound also nice. the rest is maybe effective in the movie, but as a stand alone listening experience not very convincing. the least enjoyable score for a bruckheimer movie. lorne can do much better.
2018-01-12 12:43:06
Not many big themes but some really interesting textures and action.the rare times there are a theme it's classic Jerry Bruickheimer with big epic orchestra.hints of 13 Hours and ghost in the Shell.lookong forward to watching the film
2018-01-12 12:46:52
Favorite tracks are 12 Strong ,Prayers and EVAC. Evac is BRILLIANT
2018-01-12 13:51:56
Happy for everyone who likes this score. But for me unfortunately... i screamed out loud that I'm sick and tired of all these ambient scores while hearing at it. This can't be the right way, when you play 2-3 repeating notes with a piano and it's THE main theme and the ONLY melodical cue or a piece of it in the whole score. while everyone likes this (for which i'm happy for you guys), it frustrates me, that i haven't heard to a rcp score for a long long long time, that was a really good score.
2018-01-12 18:58:11
because the story is based on true events, i can understand, why lorne didn't go for the big epic patriotic hollywood sound, but something like Black Hawk Down or djawadis Medal of Honor scores must have been possible. even the last 3 tracks are just ok, because of the weak theme. and for this kind of sound the album is way too long.
2018-01-12 20:35:05
Private Rian is partly based in true facts.
2018-01-12 21:14:14
CalendarMan - TF5 was pretty melodic for the most part. The Crown Season 2 (while I'm not a fan of it) seemed pretty melodic. Blue Planet II was basically a more epic Thomas Newman score (at least aesthetically). There wasn't much interesting stuff from Zimmer, but there's been some good scores this year.
2018-01-13 00:21:57
Why does it have to be melodic?maybe the film did not fit having old traditional score.I think Balfe's has done a great mix of both worlds with this score and we will see when the film is released
2018-01-13 00:32:55
Already released? Where to listen?
2018-01-13 00:39:05
Ok, I see it on Spotify.
2018-01-13 07:22:19
Geostorm is also very melodic, but not an old traditional score. so of course it was possible to compose at least a more melodic intense theme than we have here now and im sure it would have fit.
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Well,well,well. I just finished listening to this score the first I've noticed is the Atmospheric mode that you'll find in almost every track except 17.rescue which I think just some tweak of duck shoot from the crown season one. I dont like the score in general except rescue track. And yes there is some little cues from Dunkirk.
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2018-01-12 20:36:23
After all it is a Bruckheimer movie.
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|| 2018-01-11 13:12:16
Is this a prequel to 13 Hours?
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It was based after the twin towers
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|| 2018-01-10 19:51:07
So this will come out on the 12th !
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2018-01-10 21:04:51
Please hybrid any thing about next film for Hans.
2018-01-10 22:49:37
2018's The Lion King. xD
2018-01-11 00:20:47
The Lion King is 2019.
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Whatever New Car You Need, Chances Are We Have Something You'll Want
Searching for a rugged new pickup for your individual or business needs? We have a wide selection of new RAM trucks in-stock at all times.
In need of a versatile SUV for you or your family to make the most of trips throughout Bessemer, AL and beyond? Browse our inventory of new Jeep SUVs.
Searching for a performance-oriented coupe or sedan, or something similar? We have plenty of new Dodge models in-stock. Our Dodge inventory not only includes the popular Challenger coupe and Charger sedan, but also the new Dodge Durango 3-row crossover.
In the market for a vehicle that has premium flair, ample comfort and convenience features, and an attractive MSRP? We're happy to show you one of our many available Chrysler vehicles. From the luxurious and large Chrysler 300 to the family-friendly Chrysler Pacifica minivan and more, we offer an ample selection of all your favorite new Chrysler models here.
Schedule Your Next Test Drive Today
We could go on and on, ad infinitum, about our friendly service and how different we are from the other car dealerships in the Bessemer, AL area. Similarly, we could go on and on, ad infinitum about our large selection of new vehicles. We think, however, that the best way to experience our vast selection and our high-caliber customer service is to deal with us firsthand. As such, we invite you to contact us online, call us at (205) 632-7442, or visit us at our convenient 550 Skyland Blvd, E Tuscaloosa, AL new and used Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM dealership today! When you reach out, or visit us, ask to take out any new vehicle(s) in which you're interested so you can see what they're like from the best place possible - behind the wheel! From all of us here at Carlock Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Tuscaloosa, we look forward to helping you find the new vehicle that best fits your particular needs!
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Chip Kelly has a football game to coach Thursday night. Where he goes from there remains anyone's guess.
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Per a source with knowledge of the process, NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday that the Cleveland Browns plan to interview the Oregon coach after the Fiesta Bowl on either Friday or over the weekend.
Multiple reports have Kelly atop Cleveland's wish list. He's also slated to interview with the Philadelphia Eagles and Buffalo Bills, per Rapoport.
It has been reported that Kelly would demand considerable power over an NFL roster, but a source with knowledge of his thought process told Rapoport the coach won't require or ask for total control of football operations before accepting an NFL job.
Kelly said this week he has "no idea what the future holds," but it's widely believed he's preparing to make the leap to the NFL with no less than seven teams looking for new coaches.