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Guests: Eugene Robinson, Sam Allis, Steve Kornacki, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Duncan Hunter, Steve Kornacki, Sam Allis, David Corn, Sam Tanenhaus, Jeanne Cummings
CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: Cheney.
Let's play HARDBALL.
Good evening. I'm Chris Matthews in Washington.
Leading off tonight: back to the fight. Tonight, we return to that central question of American political life. What kind of a country do you want to live in, one that abides by international law and treats our enemies according to the Geneva Conventions, or is this to be a country that does whatever its leaders and its public servants decide is necessary in its defense, anything they decide is necessary?
We know where Dick Cheney stands. And that's how you pronounce his name, by the way, Cheney. He is with the whatever-you-think-is-necessary people, who just happened to be led by Dick Cheney. He's defending the Bush/Cheney era's use of what a lot of people call torture.
He is attacking the Obama White House for investigating the abuse of prisoners. He is taking the unusual role of defending the CIA itself, an agency he bullied and ridiculed for eight years in his role as vice president.
And he's getting hit by John McCain, who has two advantages over Cheney. One, he knows what it means to be tortured. Two, he knows what it means to serve his country. This gives him a good measure of credibility in fighting Cheney's claims that the interrogation method—methods Cheney has defended have saved the country.
So, who is next, by the way, up in Massachusetts? With the loss of Ted Kennedy, who will fill his Senate seat from Massachusetts? Will it be Joe Kennedy, his nephew? Will it be Ed Markey, who pushed through that historic bill on energy and climate change?
And it's one thing to be attacked by conservatives, but are President Obama's allies going wobbly on him? What do they want when it comes to issues like health care? At some point, these folks are going to have to learn to distinguish between the perfect and the possible.
Also, Tom Ridge is now saying he never meant to suggest that top Bush administration officials were thinking more about politics than security when they pushed to upgrade the security warnings the weekend before the 2004 election. But didn't he just say exactly that in that book? We're going to have him on Wednesday, by the way, to make it clear where he stands, whether he stands with the book he wrote or with this latest sort of—well, we will see what it is. That's in the "Politics Fix."
And proof once again that words have meaning—members of something called the Texas Nationalist Movement—that's really what they call themselves—want to take Governor Rick Perry up on his suggestion that Texas truly secede from the United States of America. They want a referendum on the ballot. Would that put Texas on the other side of Pat Buchanan's security fence? That's in the HARDBALL "Sideshow."
But we begin tonight with former Vice President Dick Cheney's attack on the Obama administration for investigating possible CIA abuse of prisoners.
Duncan Hunter is a former U.S. congressman, a former candidate for president, by the way, on the Republican side. He formally represented the state of California. He was succeeded by his son, who served in the military. And Democratic Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who is a member of the Judiciary Committee, she also joins us.
Mr. Hunter, thank for joining us.
DUNCAN HUNTER ®, FORMER U.S. CONGRESSMAN: Sure.
MATTHEWS: Let's take a look at what former Vice President Dick Cheney said over the weekend.
RICHARD B. CHENEY, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Now, you get a new administration. They say, well, we didn't like those opinions. We're going to go investigate those lawyers and perhaps have them disbarred.
I—I just think it's an outrageous precedent to set, to have this kind of—of, well, I think intensely partisan, politicized look back at the prior administration.
They're going to out and investigate the CIA personnel who carried out those investigations. I just—I think it's an outrageous political act that will do great damage long term to our capacity to be able to have people take on difficult jobs, make difficult decisions, without having to worry about what the next administration is going to say.
MATTHEWS: Mr. Hunter, do you share the vice president's argument that what Eric Holder, the attorney general, is doing in looking at possibly prosecuting these people as partisan in nature, in other words, an attempt to exploit the situation to help get votes in the next election, a partisan move for partisan purposes? That's what the vice president is accusing him of.
HUNTER: Yes, Chris, for this reason, that the initial scrub on these operations was made a couple of years ago.
One person was turned up as having violated the law, and that person
was punished. But, beyond that, what we're talking about is water-boarding
water-boarding. That's what—that's what the vice president is talking about. That's the enhanced interrogation techniques that the CIA used.
That's a technique where you make a—a terrorist feel or be afraid of the idea that he is going under water, when, in fact, you're not putting him under water, but it does scare the heck out of him. We water-boarded precisely three people. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the guy that killed 3,000 people in New York, was the prime guy who got water-boarded.
And—and we pulled—we scared him, because that's all water-boarding is. We scared him. We—we water-board, incidentally, hundreds of our own military personnel. They water-board themselves in training to toughen themselves up.
But we scared Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. When we scared him, he told us about three—three new plots that we didn't know about. One was to hit the Marines in North Africa. Another one was to hit the United States itself again a second time. And the last one was to hit the British at Heathrow Airport or another location.
So, Mohammed Sheikh—Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the guy who planned the attack that killed 3,000 New Yorkers, was scared. Now, at the same time, Mr. Obama's operatives here a few weeks ago shot three pirates through the head to save one hostage.
Now, if you—you can shoot three pirates through the head to shake one—or shoot them through the head to save one hostage, why can't you water-board the guy that killed 3,000 Americans to get information on new plans to hit this country?
MATTHEWS: Well, you're a military man. I don't have...
HUNTER: I think that's a question that liberals have to answer.
MATTHEWS: Well, I think we all have to answer, not just liberals.
What about the Geneva Conventions? And what about this technique they were using to click a gun next to somebody's head when he is blind—when he is blindfolded?
HUNTER: Yes.
MATTHEWS: They had a guy with a hood over his head, and they convinced him they were about to hit him with a buzz saw. They had one guy they threatened to rape his mother in front of him.
REP. DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ (D), FLORIDA: How about threatening to kill his children?
MATTHEWS: One about all that stuff?
HUNTER: Yes, the Geneva—the Geneva Convention, first, if you look at the—the Geneva Convention was analyzed by the lawyers in place, and they came to the conclusion, especially about water-boarding, because that's the primary thing, that, since we do it to our own soldiers, by the hundreds, incidentally, and it doesn't hurt them, and they—and it makes them tougher, and it doesn't hurt anybody—Khalid Sheikh Mohammed gained weight after he was water-boarded—we decided that, since we do that to our own soldiers in training...
MATTHEWS: Yes.
HUNTER: ... we're not going to consider that torture.
Now—now, the question for liberals is, if you consider—consider that torture...
MATTHEWS: You know why we did that, though. I want to go on to the congresswoman.
HUNTER: But wait just a second.
MATTHEWS: OK. Well, look, you know why we did...
HUNTER: If you consider that torture...
MATTHEWS: Well, you're not putting the...
MATTHEWS: You're not being honest here, Congressman.
HUNTER: ... then are we torturing our own soldiers?
MATTHEWS: We did that because the Chicoms—because the Chinese communists were doing it in Korea, so we did it to prepare our guys, G.I.s, in case they got picked up. You didn't give the context.
HUNTER: So, what's wrong with that? So, what's wrong with that?
MATTHEWS: Well, you never explained why we're doing it.
MATTHEWS: Because we believed the enemy was torturing out prisoners.
HUNTER: Baloney.
MATTHEWS: And we wanted to prepare them to be tortured. We didn't do it as part of their training. We said, this is what happens if you're...
HUNTER: Korea has been over for a—well, you're wrong about that, Chris.
Mr.—Senator Levin was very—I'm sure, very shocked when he saw that we do it with our own folks. But the point is, if we do it, are we torturing American soldiers? You have to answer yes if you consider water-boarding to be torture.
Are we torturing our own soldiers? Answer the question.
MATTHEWS: We're preparing them to face torture.
HUNTER: No, we water-board them. We don't prepare them for water-boarding. We water-board them. Are we torturing our own soldiers?
MATTHEWS: Look, you're getting into a game here. Do you think it's within the bounds of the Geneva Convention...
HUNTER: Well, that's not a game. That's a—that's a reasonable question.
MATTHEWS: Is it within the bounds of the Geneva—is—is it torture? Is it torture?
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: You know, I would love to jump in here.
MATTHEWS: OK. You're in here. I'm sorry. I'm holding you off too long. You're a guest. Go to it...
MATTHEWS: Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Look, I...
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Thank you, Chris.
And I appreciate the opportunity to point out that it's unbelievably disingenuous of the former vice president, who was part of an administration who basically crafted an entire Justice—Department of Justice that was—that rose and fell on politics, to suggest that now the Obama administration and Attorney General Holder is pursuing this investigation based on politics.
At the end of the day, no one is above the law. John McCain, the Republican nominee for president, said that water-boarding is—is torture. The Geneva Convention says that water-boarding is torture. In addition to water-boarding...
HUNTER: No, it does not.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Excuse me. I -- I let you finish.
HUNTER: Geneva Convention does not say that.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Excuse me, Duncan, I let you finish.
The—the—the—in addition to water-boarding, we also subjected these prisoners—these prisoners to threatening to kill their children, using a drill next to them while they were blindfolded and naked.
And, look, at the end of the day, the heinous crimes that these people committed, I mean, no one feels a bit sorry for them. But when it comes to making sure that our—our prisoners and our detainees in other countries get the treatment that we want to make sure they get and that they are not tortured, we have to make sure that none of our lawyers who give advice to our interrogators, nor our—our interrogators, are above the law.
And we cannot continue the downward spiral of—of torture, and make that the—the policy of—and law and—and acceptable practice in—in this country. It's simply unacceptable.
And, with all due respect, Duncan, to say that those—those—that information that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed revealed as a result was a direct result of water-boarding, even Frances Townsend, the former director of the White House Office of Homeland Security, disagreed with that on TV this week, and said that you couldn't really make a direct connection that the vice president tried to make.
And, in fact, the FBI interrogator who questioned him before the CIA came in and water-boarded him and tortured—and used torture got information that was incredibly valuable in two days, instead...
HUNTER: Let—let me—let me answer that.
MATTHEWS: OK. Mr.—Mr.—Mr. Hunter, let me..
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: ... of the extremely lengthy period of time that they subjected...
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: ... where they got nothing.
MATTHEWS: Mr. Hunter, I want you to listen to McCain here. Here's Senator McCain here. And then you react to that yourself.
MATTHEWS: Senator McCain on this issue.
SEN. JOHN MCCAIN ®, ARIZONA: I think that these interrogations, once publicized, helped al Qaeda recruit. I think that the ability of us to work with our allies was harmed.
And, so—and I believe that information, according to the FBI and others, could have been gained through other methods.
MATTHEWS: Mr. Hunter.
HUNTER: Yes. Yes.
Chris, if—if John McCain, my old friend, is suggesting that, if we had just talked nicely to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, he would have told us about those plans to attack America, the Marine encampment at North Africa and Great Britain....
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Look, the proof is in the pudding.
HUNTER: Well, I got—I got—no, wait a second.
HUNTER: I got. Now, let me finish.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: They got valuable information within two days.
HUNTER: Let me finish. Let me finish.
I—we talked to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed for a long time, and we water-boarded him on multiple occasions. Now, if talking nice to him would have elicited that information, I'm sure that he would have put that off. But the real question for Debbie is this.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: But guess what? If I can jump in.
HUNTER: But, Debbie, here's your...
MATTHEWS: ... got that information before they water-boarded him.
MATTHEWS: So, I'm not sure here about the facts.
HUNTER: Let me...
HUNTER: Let me finish. Now, you gave a long...
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Duncan, they got valuable information from him when the...
HUNTER: Hey. Hey.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: ... the FBI...
MATTHEWS: ... let Mr. Hunter talk.
MATTHEWS: Mr. Hunter, you have got 15 to 30 seconds here. Go ahead.
HUNTER: OK. Let me talk.
Debbie, what you should really concentrate on is the fact that the Israelis use a much more stringent method of interrogation. I look forward to you asking for the Israeli prime minister to step down, because they do it. Do you think they should stop doing it to protect the country?
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: This is America. The last time I checked, this is the United States of America.
HUNTER: So, you're not going to ask the Israeli leadership to step down?
MATTHEWS: Mr. Hunter, that is kind of ridiculous, the comparison.
HUNTER: That's not ridiculous.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: We're—we're talking about practices in the United States.
And the United States doesn't torture. No one is above the law, including Dick Cheney...
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: ... including the—the lawyers that—that he pushed to...
HUNTER: And water-boarding is not torture.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: ... to require—well, I—I think that—that, when the investigation is completed, it's quite possible that you will be proven wrong.
The FBI investigator that questioned him before the CIA stepped in and tortured him got more valuable information within a couple of days, as opposed to the weeks and weeks in which they got virtually nothing, that you can't even tie the information that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed gave to the CIA after they tortured him to those—those—those practices.
No one is above the law...
HUNTER: So, the—so—OK. So, Debbie, so, Debbie, so the—so the—so the American SEALs torture...
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: We should not—we should not be spiraling ever downward.
HUNTER: So, the American SEALs torture themselves, the Air Force tortures itself, according to your definition that water-boarding is torture.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: That's not torture. That's preparing...
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Give me a break.
HUNTER: And there's no problem with Israel doing very enhanced methods of interrogation.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: That's preparing our troops.
MATTHEWS: OK. Congressman...
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: That's preparing our troops.
MATTHEWS: ... even the most normal intelligence could help you with this. I don't know why you're not applying it, because you have it.
MATTHEWS: Obviously, the service people know they're in training.
They're not going to be killed.
HUNTER: Well...
MATTHEWS: That captured person who is one of our enemy has no idea what we're doing...
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: They're getting ready for what they might be subjected to in other countries.
MATTHEWS: ... when we submit him to water torture.
HUNTER: So, we scared—so, Chris—Chris, use your common sense.
MATTHEWS: So, don't tell me it's the same thing.
HUNTER: We scared Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. We scared him, but we didn't hurt him.
HUNTER: We scared him. And he gave up three—three potential terrorist plots, and you don't think it's worth it.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: There isn't anyone that agrees that the information we got from him after he was tortured is tied to the torture.
MATTHEWS: There's no evidence of that. Let me...
HUNTER: I disagree.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: No one agrees with that. There's no—name one expert...
HUNTER: Direct quote—direct quote from the CIA—direct quote from the CIA: The interrogation methods gave us pivotal information. That's a direct quote.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: And direct quote from Frances Townsend said that that is not true.
MATTHEWS: OK. What are your—what are your limits? Mr. Duncan—
Mr. Hunter, what are your limits—what are your limits on what we can do to a prisoner?
HUNTER: I think what Americans—the—the—the standard should be, if we use it with our own soldiers in training, as we do water-boarding, then it should be allowed with people who have killed thousands of Americans.
MATTHEWS: We threaten them with death? We threaten them with death?
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: You can't compare getting our troops ready for the torture they might face at the hands of another country as a detainee...
HUNTER: Yes.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: ... to what we practice on our detainees. Those -
those are apples and oranges.
HUNTER: So, limit it? No.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: So, you want our troops to be tortured? You want our troops to be water-boarded?
HUNTER: So, you're saying we can do it to our soldiers, Debbie.
HUNTER: You're saying we can do it to our soldiers. We can't do it to terrorists.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Because the chance of them being...
HUNTER: That's nuts.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Duncan, the chance of them being subjected to it in another country...
MATTHEWS: OK. OK. This argument is getting...
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: We have to make sure that they can get ready for it. You're comparing apples and oranges.
MATTHEWS: OK. We're—we're...
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: And—and what happens...
MATTHEWS: And, by the way, I thank you.
HUNTER: ... prepare them for.
MATTHEWS: Mr. Hunter—Mr. Hunter, you're hanging on this like a life board.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: What happened to two wrongs don't make a right?
MATTHEWS: And I want to tell you something.
Every service person who comes to serve our country, even the worst kind of boot camp, like Parris Island, knows that there is always a chance of an accident. But they also know that none of the—the—the—the...
HUNTER: Yes.
MATTHEWS: ... drill instructors intend to kill them, never believe that, ever. And, therefore, it's not the same as what happens to a terrorist who is picked up by us. And you know the difference.
HUNTER: Chris, Chris, if you—Chris...
HUNTER: That people that go through survival training...
MATTHEWS: One is being threatened with death, and the other is being threatened with tough training.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: We get them ready. We get them ready in case—in the event that they're tortured.
HUNTER: The people that go through survival training do not what's going to—do not know what's going to come.
MATTHEWS: Well, they do know that their...
MATTHEWS: ... is not out to kill them.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: ... getting them ready in the event that they are tortured in another country.
HUNTER: OK. So, what you're saying...
MATTHEWS: What I'm saying is common sense, though.
HUNTER: What you're saying is that scaring Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was bad.
MATTHEWS: Thank you very much for coming...
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: ... get our troops ready.
What you're saying is...
HUNTER: Hey—hey, Chris, what you're saying is that scaring Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was bad...
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: It's OK...
HUNTER: ... even though he killed 3,000 Americans.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: ... just preposterous.
MATTHEWS: I'm siding with John McCain...
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: No one is above the law.
MATTHEWS: ... because he has been there in both regards. He served has this country. And he's been tortured.
HUNTER: I have got two sons who are serving in Iraq or have served in Iraq.
MATTHEWS: And I—I have always pointed that out, sir. I always try to point out your service to your country and your sons' service.
HUNTER: And I think they're safer because of the methods that we have used.
Thank you very much, Congressman.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Well, there isn't any direct evidence of that.
MATTHEWS: Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
And I don't call you Debbie.
HUNTER: Good to be with you.
MATTHEWS: And I don't keep referring to Israel when you're on the show either.
MATTHEWS: Duncan Hunter, thank you, sir.
MATTHEWS: Up next: Will another Kennedy replace Teddy in the Senate? Could his nephew Joe go for the seat? We will look at the leading candidates for Kennedy's seat up in Massachusetts. That's coming up next.
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Shortly before he died, Senator Ted Kennedy had asked that the Massachusetts state law being amended so that a placeholder, somebody to fill his seat, could be given that seat by appointment, until a special election is held this January.
And, today, Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick reiterated his support for such an action to be taken by the state legislatures, who have agreed to hold a hearing next week to get the matter going.
Right now, Governor Patrick has also set a date of January 19 for the big special election. By the way, that means we're going to have a primary in early December in the Democratic and the Republican Party to pick Ted Kennedy's successor.
So, that's coming up rather quick.
For a look at possible successors to the late Senator Kennedy, we turn to "Boston Globe" columnist Sam Allis, who is author—one of the co-authors of the book "The Last Lion," which is out now, and "New York Observer" columnist Steve Kornacki.
Sam, buddy, thank you very much.
It's very early in the business, I know, but everybody has waited decently until today. It's a very busy political country, an especially busy commonwealth. Is it Joe Kennedy's to take, if he wants it?
SAM ALLIS, COLUMNIST, "THE BOSTON GLOBE": I think that's pretty close.
But no one has a clue what he wants to do. I don't think he knows yet. He has got a little bit more time, Chris, to make up his mind than the others, who have to act very quickly.
What we don't know is if he still has the fire in his belly to do all this. He left after 12 years in the Senate before, and we're not sure that he wants it that bad. He's got a very nice arrangement now with Citizens Energy, which is the nonprofit that gives cheap oil to low-income people, which also has some very profitable for-profit pieces to go with it.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
ALLIS: And he may stay. I don't—I don't know.
MATTHEWS: Steve, it seems like Joe Kennedy is more of an executive. He likes running his own company, doing his own thing, not voting on, what, 500 votes a year over things you're not even that interested in, you may get cornered on.
What do you think?
STEVE KORNACKI, "NEW YORK OBSERVER COLUMNIST": Well, Joe Kennedy's thing was always—when he got elected to the House originally in 1986, he was 33, 34 years old. The question was never, Was he a lifer in the House? The question was, When does he make his move to go to statewide office? His dad was in the Senate, John Kerry was in the Senate, and he was sort of blocked there, so it was always the governorship.
In 1990, he had a chance. He passed. In 1994, Bill Weld was at 80 percent in the polls. You know, he took a pass there. But 1998 was supposed to be the year for Joe Kennedy to run for governor. He was basically off and running for governor, and then there was sort of the scandal with his divorce, there was the scandal with his brother, Michael, and the babysitter. And in, you know, late 1997, he got out and decided he wanted to be out of politics altogether.
Since then, people have sort of been waiting. Listen, you've got the Citizens Energy thing. He kind of likes that, but it's also good for his political visibility. I mean, he stars in their television ads. They have slick...
MATTHEWS: Yes.
ALLIS: ... political-style television ads. They run all over Massachusetts. I think...
MATTHEWS: Only in Massachusetts, Steve, can you say, Thanks to our good friends in Venezuela...
MATTHEWS: ... I'm able to give you the cheap price of oil, which is Hugo—only in Massachusetts!
By the way, Sam, I want you to respond to this. Here's Joe Kennedy giving—well, it was a classic Joe Kennedy speech, but it was obviously given for his uncle at the funeral, at the wake the other night up at the Kennedy Library. Here he is.
JOE KENNEDY, TED KENNEDY'S NEPHEW: He was telling me never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever give up. You stay in the race. And if people don't have health insurance, you stay in the race. If people don't have adequate health care, adequate housing, you stay in the race. If people aren't being treated properly, you stay in the race.
MATTHEWS: Well, that had a bit of a political ring to it, even in that circumstance. Let me ask you, Sam, about the three other guys I'm looking at—Ed Markey, who did such a good job getting climate change through—and I have to say he's a good friend of mine. I really like the guy. I think he's a great public servant. Stephen Lynch, who's from Southie. He's a pro-life guy, which would separate him from the rest of the field. Marty Meehan, who left the House a couple years ago to become a leader in the University of Massachusetts system.
What do you think? And then I also hear from people that know their stuff that Martha Coakley, the AG, would be the toughest to beat if a Kennedy doesn't run.
ALLIS: Martha Coakley is a very attractive candidate, Chris. She has acquitted herself well as attorney general. She will be the only woman in the race. She's got a lot going for her. Meehan has been nakedly ambitious for so long, and he got out. He's back—he went to Lowell. He's made more money there. He's got a big war chest, 5 million bucks, and I think he's going to jump back in.
Steve Lynch brings a lot of votes in Boston, but I don't know where he does with the rest of the country. And in terms of his shoes, I don't think they're even close to some of the others who want to run against him. Michael Capuano, who's the former mayor of Somerville, if Joe runs, he probably wouldn't because he would be the Kennedy candidate within that field.
And now that Vicki definitely isn't running—at least, that's what Governor Deval (SIC) said today that she told him, she's not running—we hadn't heard that before—this may be a smaller field than we think.
MATTHEWS: You know, I think the field is going to be—check me on this, Steve, then Allis. I think the field's going to include the following people. I think it's going to include Stephen Lynch. I think it's going to include Martha Coakley, and I put her as the frontrunner. I think it's going to include Marty Meehan and maybe Eddie Markey. What do you think?
KORNACKI: Can I—here's what I...
MATTHEWS: I don't think Joe Kennedy's running. I don't think any Kennedy's running. I don't think that's going to happen. I know it's great "People" magazine stuff, I don't think it's going to happen. So I'm going with this—Markey, Lynch, Coakley and Meehan, maybe Capuano. What do you think?
KORNACKI: I think you got—you have two very specific scenarios, and you're right, they hinge on Joe Kennedy. We'll take Vicki out of it, take her at her word for this point. If Joe Kennedy runs, I think you have a three-way race. Joe Kennedy will be in, Steve Lynch will be in. The important thing to know about Steve Lynch is he is not afraid to run against a legacy candidate. His political career was sort of made in 1996 in Massachusetts by running against the son of Billy Bulger in the heart of Bill Bulger country, South Boston, for a state senate seat, and he beat the Bulger machine. He's not afraid of this. He wants it. He...
MATTHEWS: He and kept Max Kennedy out of that—he kept Max Kennedy out of that seat, too.
KORNACKI: Well, some would say Max Kennedy kept Max Kennedy out of the seat, but the other thing that I think...
MATTHEWS: You mean that speech he gave in Southie that got him—that wasn't so successful.
KORNACKI: The other candidate, I think—and you're right, too—is Martha Coakley, I think especially if it's Joe Kennedy and Steve Lynch.
MATTHEWS: Right.
KORNACKI: She sees an opening, you know, as the female candidate. But if Joe Kennedy, doesn't run, then the donnybrook scenario comes. Then you're looking at Ed Markey. Then you're looking at Marty Meehan. You know, then you're looking at Capuano getting in, maybe even somebody like Jim McGovern or Niki Tsongas. That's a real wild card. But then you have a real wide-open race. Otherwise, if Joe Kennedy's in, I think it's a three-way race.
MATTHEWS: You know, that's a debate...
ALLIS: Chris...
MATTHEWS: ... I do want to moderate up there. What do you think—what do you think, Sam Allis? Can I get to moderate that debate? I hear the word donnybrook, I just love it. Allis, last word.
ALLIS: It's strange and wondrous times up here. But one, I didn't interpret Joe Kennedy's speech as saying he's going to run at all. I think people are misreading that.
MATTHEWS: I think so, too.
ALLIS: Secondly, I don't think Eddie Markey is going to run. He's got a wonderful position in the House. Yes, he'd love to get it, but I'm not sure he's going to leave. And if I were betting, I'd say he's not going to run for the Senate.
MATTHEWS: But it's a free shot, remember. You don't have to give up anything.
ALLIS: True.
KORNACKI: Just your dignity, if you lose.
ALLIS: True.
MATTHEWS: Aren't you guys tough! Kornacki, you are tougher than I am, but you might be right. But Sam, you don't think Ed will run. OK.
ALLIS: No.
MATTHEWS: OK, thank you, guys. It looks like we got to have all eyes on Joe Kennedy for the next couple days or weeks.
KORNACKI: Absolutely.
MATTHEWS: Up next: It looks like Sarah Palin's decision to resign as governor has opened up the door to a lot of wealth. Apparently, she's going to make—well, wait'll you hear the tons of money walking in her direction on the speaking circuit. We got the facts.
You're watching HARDBALL, coming up, only on MSNBC.
MATTHEWS: Back to HARDBALL. Time for the "Sideshow." First up:
Careful what you say. Remember back in April, when Texas governor Rick Perry talked up secession from the union?
GOV. RICK PERRY ®, TEXAS: Texas is a unique place. When we came in the union in this 1845, one of the issues was that we would be able to leave if we decided to do that.
My hope is that America and Washington in particular pays attention. We got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that.
MATTHEWS: Well, the ignorance of these people is unbelievable. There is no secession clause. When Texas joined the union, they could increase themselves to a number of states, but nothing about leaving the union. Anyway, that was resolved in the Civil War, you might say. Looks like Rick Perry, however, has started something. A group calling itself the Texas Nationalist Movement held a secession rally this Saturday on the steps of the state capitol.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Some folks say, Well, is secession legal? Well, you got to ask George Washington what he thought about legal secession. He could care less. He did it anyway. You go ask Sam Houston what he thought about secession. He did it anyway. Even though it may have been illegal, he did it anyway!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Governor Perry, I and the rest of the people of Texas, if you abrogate this leadership, we will pick up this banner, and we will march it forward! (INAUDIBLE) of the vote for secession, we will be (INAUDIBLE)
MATTHEWS: Well, that guy who was shouting about Sam Houston should know that Sam Houston, the hero of San Jacinto, who won Texas independence from Mexico, was actually evicted from office for opposing secession from the union and refusing to take an oath of allegiance to the confederacy. A little check on the history books would be a help before you go a rally.
Next up: Bob McDonnell's—Bob McDonnell, the Republican candidate for governor of Virginia, got a lot of explaining to do right now. He's—well, he's being forced to answer for something he wrote in a master's thesis back when he was in grad school he wrote back in '89. Therein, he takes a shot at working women. He calls them detrimental to the American family. McDonnell said this weekend that his take on issues over the years has changed, in particular what he wrote about women in the workplace. He said that was an academic exercise and it doesn't reflect his current views. It better not.
And finally, a quick preview of our friend, Mr. Tom DeLay's, turn on "Dancing With the Stars." There he is, the man once called "the hammer" in practice sessions with his dancing partner. You can see Mr. Twinkletoes out there in those new pumps of his he showed on the show the other night. Anyway, I guess if—I guess F. Scott Fitzgerald was dead wrong. There are second acts in American life.
Now for tonight's "Big Number." Sarah Palin is no longer in elected office, but people apparently still want to hear what she has to say. According to Politico, how many speech requests is Sarah Palin fielding right now? Over 950 speech requests. I know it. I knew she was going to do it, say what you will. But just like Howard Stern, the reason people will pay to hear her is that they have no idea what's going to say next. Anyway, a speech next month in Hong Kong to the Investors' Forum. I'm betting there's a lot more to come. About a thousand speaking requests so far already in to hear the former governor of Alaska, tonight's "Big Number."
Up next: Is the far left going wobbly on the president? Does he need the far left, or can he have the far left mad at him? That's ahead.
You're watching HARDBALL, only on MSNBC.
MATTHEWS: Back to HARDBALL. Is the left wing of the Democratic Party going to cause trouble? Are they going wobbly on Obama? Let's hear about it from David Corn, the Washington bureau chief for "Mother Jones" magazine, and Eugene Robinson, Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist for "The Washington Post."
I want to start at the center of the hurricane, David Corn, yourself, sir. Are you getting antsy about Barack Obama? Are you part of his problem? Are you the name for his pain right now on this public option?
DAVID CORN, "MOTHER JONES": Well, I'm glad you're focused on my antsiness. I think the problem was that a lot of liberals, bloggers, writers, reporters and citizens, people who I hear about through e-mails, are not going wobbly, as you put it, but they're beginning to worry. There's a wariness that Barack Obama, while they had very high expectations for him—and I think rightfully so, I think he earned these high expectations during the campaign—that he may not be fighting hard enough and holding firm enough on some key fronts.
You mentioned health care, but there's also Afghanistan and climate change, Bush investigations, "Don't ask, don't tell." On a lot of these issues—areas, he's made some progress, but people are still wondering if he hasn't really gone to the mat for what he said he believed in during the campaign. That's really the issue here.
MATTHEWS: By the way, on that topic, George Will, your column—column—fellow colleague at "The Washington Post," calls—I've never gotten an advance on one of his columns before—it calls for withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Afghanistan. That's kind of interesting, that the people like—on the right are doing that.
But what do you think of the president? Is the Democratic candidate who's now the president of the United States—is he now betraying the cause?
EUGENE ROBINSON, "WASHINGTON POST," MSNBC POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, no, he's not betraying the cause. Look, I've written columns urging him to be—to go further on investigating the excesses, and I think crimes, of the Bush/Cheney administration with regard to torture and to hold firm on the public option.
But politically—and this is HARDBALL, after all—politically, I think it's probably useful for the president, in some ways, to have the left baying at him.
ROBINSON: I think that probably helps him with the middle.
MATTHEWS: Are you baying? I mean, are you Sister Souljah here? Are
you going to play the part of—you know, I'm even willing to break with
David Corn, you know, I'm a real (INAUDIBLE) here. I'm really one of the -
are you ready to play the part of the blocking back, or whatever, here?
CORN: If that's the sacrifice I have to make to get comprehensive health care reform, in this country, I'm willing to do it. But seriously, there are different ways of compromise. I don't believe making the perfect the enemy of the good or the possible. But I do think that Obama, to certain degrees, miscalculated...
MATTHEWS: Are you married?
CORN: Am I married?
MATTHEWS: Are you married?
CORN: Oh, I believe I am, yes.
MATTHEWS: Well, you're not familiar with that phrase, the perfect being the enemy of the good?
MATTHEWS: I argue that all of the time in self-defense!
CORN: Chris, I think about it every day.
CORN: But vis-a-vis Obama, I mean, I think he entered the health care debate thinking he could do this in a non-partisan fashion, and I think that was a miscalculation. I think it's ending up in a very polarized manner. And I think he is getting—at this stage, he is getting the worse for that.
MATTHEWS: It's funny. What has changed, Gene and David, has been this tone of the country. We did come in in January with the sense, well, maybe this guy will get a few breaks here from the other side. And now we're down to Olympia Snowe, it looks like.
ROBINSON: That's right. And so, you know, how do we get there? Well, there would be two competing narratives about that. Mine would be that the Republican party is—has adopted a strategy of saying no, basically. And Obama, I think, in my opinion, has offered and has offered and has offered, and maybe has offered too early, you know, on some occasions, and hasn't gotten anything in return.
But is it—is it helpful for him in the—in the medium term and in the long run to be seen to continue to offer? I mean—you know, I think there is a sentiment out there in the country that wants bipartisanship. And I think the White House calculates that to be seen as the party that's trying to offer that --
MATTHEWS: Yes.
ROBINSON: -- is a good thing. And if you fast forward—you know, everybody is starting to think about 2010. You know, by then, the economy could be coming back. We could be out of this cycle of unemployment.
MATTHEWS: OK. You're saying—
ROBINSON: Things could be getting better.
MATTHEWS: Wait and do it later.
ROBINSON: No, no, I think you've got to do health care now.
MATTHEWS: I think now, too. Let's take a look at the former president, Bill Clinton, who really knows what he's talking about in politics, especially on this front, where he went through that hell in '94. Here he is offering advice to the left and saying this. Let's listen.
BILL CLINTON, FMR. PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I'm just telling you, we need to pass a bill and it needs to be the best bill we can possibly get through Congress. But doing nothing is not only the worst thing we can do for the economy and the worst thing we can do for health care, it's the worst thing we can do for the Democrats. And don't you think the Republicans don't know it.
MATTHEWS: That is the voice of god, sir. David Corn, that is the voice of god, because it's the voice of truth and experience. I completely buy what he said, completely. Because when you lose in politics, you lose. And if you think you're going to get any credit from the center or from the right or any of the commentators from that part of the world for losing, you're crazy.
The Democratic left will be pounced on and blamed for defeat. So this idea you're waiting for the perfect bill or you won't go without the public option is suicidal. But that's my thought. Your thoughts?
CORN: That's not necessarily the issue. And I can remember a day, Chris, when you didn't think Bill Clinton was so god-like. But that aside, I do think there is a way to have a clear fight. I mean, one of the problems I think Barack Obama is having here—and I always say this—
I'm hesitant to second guess the political wizards of this White House, because they have done a pretty good job without my advice so far.
But having said that, I think the health care fight has become a very muddy fight now. It's not a clear battle, and it's unclear what he stands for, in terms of the details of this bill.
And you can't just pass anything. It has to be something that people recognize as good for them. And they have to have a clear understanding of this bill. So to that degree, I think Bill Clinton is right. Passing something is better than passing nothing. But if it's something that's unclear and people don't really understand, and it can be demagogued even after passage, that doesn't necessarily help—
MATTHEWS: Do you honestly think that's going to happen? Do you honestly think you're not just fighting a straw man, David? Do you really think he would pass a piece of crap? Do you think he'd want to do that?
CORN: Listen, I'm not sure he may want to do that. But if you let Congress proceed the way it's proceeding, you may come up with something that is a big mess that's unclear to most Americans.
MATTHEWS: Yes, OK. I think it should be about a page or two long. It should be that everybody has got to enroll. Everybody has got to be part of it. And it should regulate and control the insurance industry so it doesn't make a killing out of this.
ROBINSON: Absolutely. Bill Clinton's message cuts both ways. I think it's also a message to Democrats who may be recalcitrant, who may be unwilling to stick with what is the majority view in the Democratic caucus of what the bill ought to look like. And part of that message is, you know, if the Democrats go down in 2010, who is going to lose? It's those Democrats in those marginal districts that are going to be in trouble. And that it is better for them, for the Democrats, to pass a bill, even if it goes further than they think they might be comfortable with.
MATTHEWS: I admire the net roots and I admire people on the left for standing for something that really matters to them and to the country. I am completely for national health care, but I do know from experience, going back to Truman, back to Nixon, back to Carter, in every case, the liberals have had a shot at it, and they have acted like the PLO, in a sense—in this sense—don't anybody write in saying I'm accusing them of being the PLO. They have never missed a chance to let a chance go by.
What is it that Shimon Perez always said? They never miss an opportunity to blow an opportunity?
CORN: Right.
MATTHEWS: That's the Democrats.
CORN: Right now, it's not the left that's controlling the ball game here. It really is the White House and Max Baucus and others. So if anything is going awry, it's not because people on the left are criticizing what's happening.
MATTHEWS: You're right. Before you get to 69 or 60, you got to get those first 59. I haven't seen them yet, either.
ROBINSON: Fifty or 51.
MATTHEWS: Well, I don't buy that. I'm not going to crazy land. Anyway, Eugene Robinson, David Corn—everybody is entitled to an opinion here on HARDBALL.
Coming up, former Bush Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge pulls back on what he wrote in that book. By the way, he is coming on Wednesday, and I'm going to ask him, do you believe what you wrote in that book? He voiced suspicions in that book that people like Rumsfeld and Ashcroft were playing politics with terror alerts. I'm going to ask when he comes on if he still believes that. I think he still does, even though he's working around the edges of that.
That's coming up next, by the way, in the politics fix. This is HARDBALL on MSNBC.
MATTHEWS: Time now for the politics fix. Joining me right now is Jeanne Cummings, assistant managing editor of "Politico," and Sam Tanenhaus of the "New York Times," whose new book is "The Death of Conservatism," one of the great books that's come out in recent years about which way the conservative movement is heading.
Let me go to the question on the deck right now. Sam, your thoughts about what's happening in Massachusetts? Not a good example of Democratic governance in its flummoxing this whole question of filling Ted's seat at this point.
SAM TANENHAUS, "THE NEW YORK TIMES": Well, you know, you wonder what would happen if the roles were reversed. Let's say we had a state where a Republican appointee might be the filibuster vote who could take down health care. I'm a tremendous supporter of health care, supporter of Barack Obama and the Democrats on this. I think they're right. But the rules are the rules.
And I think the structure of politics is the thing we forget about most, we take most for granted, the systems, the rules, the way things have been done all along. If there had been an idea in play for quite some time to do the process a little differently, that's one thing. You wonder what the cost might be if we get this razor-thin vote, with all the issues your guests have been talking about, and to have a hand-picked appointee who pushes the bill through.
MATTHEWS: You think this would be an ex-post facto law? They'd just be shoving it through for one purpose, to get a vote on health care?
TANENHAUS: Well, that's how it could look. That's not necessarily the case. But politics is all perception, as we know, or often is. This is a case where you look at the great legislation we've seen in modern times. You go back to the real predecessor to this, which would be the Medicare bill that LBJ passed, Lyndon Johnson passed in 1965.
Look, that was mainly Democrats too. There were 13 Republican senators who signed on. There he had enormous majorities. He had a very prosperous, booming economy. GDP had gone up eight percent that year.
We're in much tougher, stricter times. It's hard to say what the fallout from something like this might be.
MATTHEWS: OK. Jeanne, I'm not sure the Democrats are able to see
what it's like to be a Republican or imagine being a Democrat looking at a
Republican doing what they're doing right now, which is to try to make up
for screwing around before. Several years ago, they decided to not let the
governor of Massachusetts pick an interim appointee when someone lost their
died in office or had to leave for some other reason. Now they want to fill the seat so they get a vote on health care.
You assume, like I do, they're going to go ahead and just make that vote next week, and get it over with?
JEANNE CUMMINGS, "POLITICO": I certainly think they will and I'm not surprised they will. I'm not so sure it's such a bad thing or a surprise. The Democrats can look down at Texas and see the way Tom Delay used the redistricting process to benefit his party. This sort of thing goes on all the time.
What I wonder about, or what think, is that the first piece of legislation that they passed in the Romney era to prevent him from filling Kerry's seat, if Kerry had won the presidency, that piece of legislation really wasn't very responsible. It left the states for months and months without any representation.
In the end here, they might come up with a piece of legislation, provided it's written very clearly in there, that the interim appointment doesn't run for office, that's a little more responsible.
MATTHEWS: My thoughts basically. I want to come back and talk about who's going to fill that seat up there, and also about Tom Ridge. I think the Kennedy era is over, in terms of electing senators in Massachusetts. That's my hunch. We'll see. Jeanne Cummings coming back. Sam Tanenhaus back for the fix. You're watching HARDBALL, only on MSNBC.
MATTHEWS: We're back with the "Politico's" Jeanne Cummings, and Sam Tanenhaus, author of this great new book, "the Death of Conservatism." I'm holding it up here.
Last question, quickly, before I get off the Kennedy thing; will there be another Kennedy in Massachusetts as senator? Jeanne, yes or no?
CUMMINS: I doubt it. I really like the idea. Joe Kennedy might get in. But it's not going to go easy. There's going to be a big fight in that primary. I think it's time to move on.
MATTHEWS: Do you agree, fresh start in Massachusetts?
TANENHAUS: Yes, let it end on a high note. This is the last of the great New Deal liberals. Let's end it there.
MATTHEWS: Smart thinking. What do you think of Tom Ridge? Is he actually hedging today? Here he is. He's going to be here on Wednesday. We're going to try to nail him on this pretty tough.
You first, Sam, is he hedging when he said he wasn't pressured, having said in this new book of his that he suspected there was politics afoot in deciding on whether to put us on alert that weekend before the election of 2004?
TANENHAUS: You know, Chris, he may be hedging, but this tells us about something of the atmosphere of the Bush administration. I heard Richard Hass say once that one thing you look for when you are having a policy debate—this is Richard Hass, who worked with Colin Powell in the State Department—is that you want to be able to make your case. You know you're not always going to win. But you want to be able to make your case.
In the Bush administration, he never thought he was able to make his case. That is, the atmosphere could be such that if, all right, even if you're not directly pressured, you're feeling pressure constantly. I think he was probably more candid about that in the book than he's being right now.
MATTHEWS: I'm going to push him on that when he comes here on Wednesday. I really want to know. Your thoughts, Jeanne? Is the book right or is this back pedalling or softening up right?
CUMMINGS: I think it's interesting he says he didn't mean to imply that he was under pressure. He didn't imply it. He said it. He said that he was. I—you know, I think that Ridge has always been a very cautious politician, never one to get too far out in the front of any debate. I think he found himself out there right on the edge of, you know, a major controversy, and his instincts have taken over, and he's now trying to work his way back into a safer position.
But in the cool and quiet moments—
MATTHEWS: OK. Go to go.
CUMMINGS: -- writing his book, he said the other.
MATTHEWS: I want to try something from the Middle Ages when he comes on Wednesday. Will you recant, governor? I believe he will not recant. I think he's sticking with the book. Thank you, Jeanne Cummings. Good luck with the good, Sam Tanenhaus, "The Death of Conservatism," a hell of a book.
Join us again tomorrow night at 5:00 and 7:00 eastern for more HARDBALL. Right now, it's time for "THE ED SHOW" with Ed Schultz.
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The Google Drive launch is not far away and there's more evidence for this in the Google Docs app for Android.
Daniel Baker noticed that the Google Docs app for Android can handle the links that start with "https://drive.google.com".
The Android app includes many references to Google Drive, which is just a new name for Google Docs. There's a file named GoogleDriveSharedPreferences.xml, a special icon file for Google Drive and there's a modal dialog that's displayed when you migrate to Google Drive.
The Google Drive rebranding could be more about positioning Google Docs as an online file storage service. You can already upload any file to Google Docs and there's an Android app for managing your files, but there's no desktop app for syncing files and there's no integration with third-party services. Another issue is that 1 GB of free storage is not enough.
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;EDD: Bios Enhanced Disk Drive Services (EDD) 3.0. This protocol determines which disk BIOS tries boot from. This uses the Disk Signature bytes. These are the 4 bytes in the MBR starting after the first 440 bytes (offset 0x01B8 through 0x01BB).
;EDD: Bios Enhanced Disk Drive Services (EDD) 3.0. This protocol determines which disk BIOS tries boot from. This uses the Disk Signature bytes. These are the 4 bytes in the MBR starting after the first 440 bytes (offset 0x01B8 through 0x01BB).
== Image a drive ==
== Image a drive ==
Revision as of 07:48, 21 September 2010
These notes cover useful things you can do with `dd`.
- 1 Securely erase a drive
- 2 Erase MBR
- 3 Fill a file with bytes
- 4 Image a drive
- 5 Image a CD or DVD
- 6 Show progress status statistics of `dd`
Securely erase a drive
If you are in a hurry then just drill a hole through the top of case into the platters. A professional data recovery service might be able to get some data off the platters, but it will be very expensive to do so.
You can use `dd` to destroy just the data without destroying the drive.
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M
You can also use `cp` or `cat`:
cp /dev/zero /dev/sda cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda
Some say you should write random data to the drive (see Tinfoil hat paranoia below), but this is nearly ten times slower using /dev/urandom than /dev/zero. The urandom device is faster than the random device. It would be nearly impossible to use /dev/random.
dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda bs=1M
Tinfoil hat paranoia
It takes about 15 minutes to destroy a 1GB file using GNU `shred` (default options). It takes 30 seconds to destroy the file using `dd if=/dev/zero of=somefile bs=1024 count=1M`. This is on a laptop with a 1.6 GHz dual core CPU, 2 GB RAM machine, and a Seagate Momentus ST9160823AS drive with ext3 filesystem -- in other words, nothing fancy.
Some people say that this isn't really secure because they heard that it's possible to read data that has been overwritten. This myth of the necessity for using multiple random overwrites for security came about because Dr. Peter Gutmann theorized that overwritten data could be recovered through the use of Scanning transmission electron microscopy. This is all theory -- no one has ever demonstrated this. No commercial data recovery or forensics firms offer any services that can recover overwritten data. Somehow this became accepted as fact and now everyone believes that supposedly the NSA and maybe space aliens can read overwritten bits on a drive. If your data is so sensitive that the government has to call the NSA or hire space aliens then you don't need my advice. Most drive erasure tools use very slow methods to prevent recovery of erased data. These tools overwrite each byte repeatedly with random data. This can take hours to erase a whole drive! Yet there is not a single example of overwritten data having ever been recovered using any exotic, theoretical method.
If you still prefer to use the GNU `shred` command then you may want to put this in your ~/.bashrc or alias file to make it a little more sane:
alias shred='shred --iterations=1'
One step disk wipe tool
This is useful if you want to reuse a lot of drives: Darik's Boot and Nuke
Erase MBR
I had Linux with GRUB installed on a machine. I needed to get rid of it and put Windows on the machine. I used a Ghost recovery disk to restore Windows on it, but Ghost didn't restore the MBR. GRUB was still lurking in the Master Boot Record. On boot GRUB would try to start but would error out. Wiping out the MBR fixed the problem. This will wipe out the MBR of a disk (sda in this example) but keep the partition table and disk signature:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=440 count=1
It you also wish to totally erase the entire MBR include disk signature and partition table then use this:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
disk signature of boot disk
Disk signature is an obscure topic. These are the 4 bytes in the MBR starting after the first 440 bytes (offset 0x01B8 through 0x01BB). Often you can mess with it without problems, but in certain circumstances Linux may need to see a specific disk signature on the boot disk. The most critical fact is that the disk signature of the primary BOOT disk must be unique. In days past, I did not know the significance of the disk signature so I would often zero it out along with the MBR boot code using `dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1`. That is not guaranteed to be harmless. It may cause problems; although, usually it is harmless. It is also bad to COPY a disk image including the MBR and then mount both copies on the same system. The system may not boot or nothing will go wrong at all!
Do not confuse disk signature with MBR signature. The MBR signature is always 0xAA55 starting at offset 0x01FE. It is stored little endian, so 0x01FE:0x55 and 0x01FF:0xAA.
The `ms-sys` command may be helpful in working with the MBR and disk signatures.
See also
- Bios Enhanced Disk Drive Services (EDD) 3.0. This protocol determines which disk BIOS tries boot from. This uses the Disk Signature bytes. These are the 4 bytes in the MBR starting after the first 440 bytes (offset 0x01B8 through 0x01BB).
Fill a file with bytes
This creates a 10MB file filled with zeros (0):
dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=10 of=test_data.bin
You can use /dev/zero and `tr` to generate and fill a file with any given byte constant. This creates a 10MB file filled with ones as a bit pattern (0b11111111, 0377, 255, or 0xff).
dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=10 | tr '\0' '\377' > test_data.bin
Filling a file with bytes other than zero can be handy for use with devices such as framebuffers where you want to clear the display but set all the pixels to white instead of black. Note that this should be larger than your framebuffer. The framebuffer device should give a harmless error when you try to write beyond the end of the framebuffer.
dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=1024 | tr '\0' '\377' > /dev/fb0 2>/dev/null
This can also be done without using `dd`:
tr '\0' '\377' < /dev/zero > /dev/fb0 2>/dev/null
Image a drive
This is the most basic usage of `dd`:
dd if=/dev/sda of=drive.img
Image a CD or DVD
Note that /dev/cdrom, /dev/dvd, /dev/cdrw, and /dev/scd0 are usually just sym links to /dev/sr0 or some other optical disc device.
The following shows the naive, bad way to a CD-ROM or DVD to an iso file. This works, but it will usually grab a few extra null blocks which may throw off the checksum of the disc image. If you burn this image onto a new disc the checksum of that disc will not match the checksum of the image file. This also makes it impossible to compare this disc image with another to see if they are the same.
dd if=/dev/cdrom of=disc.iso
The following will create a correct image a CD-ROM or DVD. This ensures that the image will have exactly the same md5sum or checksum no matter what device or operating system is used to burn the image. This is a two-step process.
isoinfo -d -i /dev/cdrom # Take the values of '''Logical Block Size''' and '''Volume Space Size''' and plug into '''bs''' and '''count''' below: dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=326239 conv=notrunc,noerror > disc.iso
You can do this in one line:
dd if=/dev/dvd bs=2048 count=`isosize -d 2048 /dev/dvd` conv=notrunc,noerror > disc.iso
You can turn this into an alias. This alias, `cdgen`, generates an ISO image from a directory tree and dumps it to stdout. The alias, `cddump`, dumps an ISO image to stdout. The alias, `cdburn`, reads an ISO image from stdin and burns it to a disc. These assume the primary device, /dev/dvd, is the one you want (it works for CD as well as DVD).
alias cdgen='genisoimage -quiet -iso-level 3 -J -force-rr -l -N -d -allow-leading-dots -allow-multidot -V "`date --rfc-3339=seconds`" -r ' alias cddump='dd if=/dev/dvd bs=2048 count=`isosize -d 2048 /dev/dvd` conv=notrunc,noerror' alias cdburn='cdrecord fs=16m speed=8 padsize=63s -pad -dao -v -'
Here are some examples of how these can be used:
cddump | md5sum cddump > disc.iso cat disc.iso | cdburn
Steve Litt's `rawread` script does this automatically with the added advantage this it gets the Logical Block Size as reported by the drive instead of assuming that it is 2048; although, all ISO formatted CDs and DVDs use 2048 for the Logical Block Size, so I usually just use the aliases above.
#!/bin/sh device=$1 blocksize=`isoinfo -d -i $device | grep "^Logical block size is:" | cut -d " " -f 5` if test "$blocksize" = ""; then echo catdevice FATAL ERROR: Blank blocksize >&2 exit fi blockcount=`isoinfo -d -i $device | grep "^Volume size is:" | cut -d " " -f 4` if test "$blockcount" = ""; then echo catdevice FATAL ERROR: Blank blockcount >&2 exit fi command="dd if=$device bs=$blocksize count=$blockcount conv=notrunc,noerror" echo "$command" >&2 $command
Steve Litt's `rawread` script can be used to do things like the following. Create an ISO disc dump:
rawread /dev/cdrom > disc.iso
check the md5sum of the physical optical disk:
rawread /dev/cdrom | md5sum
Image a drive with compression
- Backup
dd if=/dev/sda conv=sync,noerror| gzip -c > drive.img.gz
- Restore
gunzip -c drive.img.gz | dd of=/dev/sda conv=sync,noerror
- Save drive geometry info because cylinder size helps determine where a partition is stored
fdisk -l /dev/sda > drive.img.info
- Help the drive image compress more by filling unallocated space with zeros. Do this before you create the backup image. Don't do this on images to be used for forensic recovery! This creates a file filled with zeros and then deletes it
dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/drive_sda1/delete.me && rm /media/drive_sda1/delete.me && sync
Image a drive over a network with `dd` and `ssh` or `nc` (netcat)
You can use netcat or SSH to copy a disk over a network. If you are doing this on a live server you should unmount the drive or switch to single user mode or boot from a live CD. You don't have to unmount the drive. You may copy a live, mounted drive, but you should expect some corrupt files. This is certainly not the correct way to do it, but I have never had a problem When you try to mount the drive image later, it will complain that it was not cleanly unmounted or that its journal is inconsistent. It's better if the drive is not mounted or mounted read-only.
I prefer using `ssh` over `netcat` because the entire process is started from one machine in one step and all the traffic is encrypted.
dd if=/dev/sda | gzip -c - | ssh firstname.lastname@example.com "dd of=disk.img.gz"
This example uses 192.168.1.100 for the receiving machine's IP address. Port 2222 is used as the listening port on the receiving machine. You may substitute any free port. First, start the Netcat listener on the receiver:
nc -l 2222 > disk.img.gz
Then start the pipeline for `dd|gzip|nc` on the sender:
dd bs=1M if=/dev/sda | gzip -c - | nc 192.168.1.100 2222
Show progress status statistics of `dd`
Operations with `dd` can take a long time. Unfortunately, there is no command-line option to have `dd` print progress, but you can send the `dd` process a USR1 signal to have it print the progress statistics. For example, say you started `dd` and you know its PID is 15045. Example:
kill -USR1 15045
Here is a fancier example this will update every 10 seconds:
dd if=/dev/sda | gzip -c - | ssh firstname.lastname@example.com "dd of=disk_image.gz" & pid=$! while ps -p $pid > /dev/null; do kill -USR1 $pid; sleep 10; done


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Hi. I'm in town from NY. I'll play Sunday or Monday. I'm a 4.0. Let me know.
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1. Skirt : ASOS (got them in both colours!) $9.50
2. MINKPINK Taxi belt : The Iconic $20
3. Gravis backpack : eBay $36
4. Adidas Originals gloves : ASOS $16
5. Goldie "Rider" jean : Wildpair $40
6. Mollini "Karida" flatform : The Iconic $48
7. Reebok Classic Leather R12 trainers : Dr. Jays $43
8. Turtleneck dress : Boohoo $16
9. 5 panel with ear flaps : ASOS $7
10. Wrangler Baby Cord Hi Mini : Wildpair $60
11. Demonia "stomp" : eBay $89
Cheesus Christ, so over the past month or so I've been spending a bit more than I really need to.. this isn't even all of it.. BUT IN MY DEFENCE, I really only ever buy clothes that are on sale or are already cheap? So in a way I made money buying all this shit? Therefore I reckon I get away with my spending on things-that-I-don't-need habits. Most of these items have arrived now though and I'm very happy with all of my purchases, yay! xo


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What: Portland State University's Center for Japanese Studies presents a display of woodblock prints, "The Theatre Prints of Tsukioka Kôgyo." The exhibition will feature more than 40 of Kôgyo's finest noh and kyôgen prints, all from a collection owned by Richard and Mae Smethurst of the University of Pittsburgh.
Tsukioka Kôgyo a Meiji period master, and disciple of Tsukioka Yoshitoshi, made the transition from ukiyo-e artist to fine artist in the early 20th century. Kôgyo is particularly renowned for his elegant and dynamic prints depicting scenes and characters from the noh drama. The Tsukioka Kôgyo exhibition at the Frick Museum in Pittsburgh, February-April, 2007, attracted 10,000 visitors and garnered rave reviews from art critics.
When: Monday–Friday, from noon–4 p.m., and Saturdays from 10 a.m.–2 p.m., November 1–28, 2007
Where: Portland State University Littman Gallery, Smith Memorial Student Union (1825 SW Broadway).
Cost: The photo exhibition is free and open to the public.
Contact: For more information contact the Center for Japanese Studies at 503-725-8577 or firstname.lastname@example.com.
Background: The Center for Japanese Studies (CJS), housed in the Institute for Asian Studies at Portland State, supports research on Japan and the Japanese-American experience. CJS provides a forum for related academic activities and the free exchange of ideas. The Center is committed to preparing students to become leaders in business, government, arts, and the academy by fostering cross-cultural understanding. It seeks to facilitate understanding of Japan as well as the Japanese-American experience among students, faculty, and the greater Portland community through a variety of curricular and outreach programs.


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Microsoft and Turn 10 have announced that Forza Motorsport 3 has taken its last step before production and a demo will hit Xbox Live in ten days. Details below.
The demo will feature one track, the fictitious Camino Viejo de Montserrat circuit, and five cars: the 2007 Porsche #80 Flying Lizard 911 GT3-RSR, 2010 Audi R8 5.2 FSI quattro, 2009 Ferrari California, 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR, and 2009 Mini John Cooper Works. The demo will have the cockpit view, damage model, and rollover feature from the full game, as well as full leaderboard support for lap times. For those who enjoy dressing up their Live avatars, Turn 10 will also be making helmets, fire suits, and racing shoes available for you on the 24th, although you may want to feel ashamed of yourselves. [Forzamotorsport.net]


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Dan Colen at Gagosian
Today on DS, we bring you an article from our friends at DaWire. Carla Acevedo takes a look at Dan Colen's controversial new show at Gagosian Gallery's 24th Street space. The most talked about and controversial show of the New York City Fall season: Dan Colen's inaugural solo debut at Gagosian titled Poetry. Walking around Chelsea during the opening weeks of the season, it was[…..]


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Red Sox left fielder Carl Crawford apologized for his disappointing first season in Boston yesterday.
Here's what he wrote on his ESPN Boston blog:
I just want to say I'm sorry for the year I've had. You guys have been really supportive and I appreciate that. Hopefully when we get into these playoffs, I can be the real Carl Crawford that I know I am. We'll see.
Crawford signed a monster 7-year, $142 million contract with Boston in the offseason.
But he's hit just .255 with 11 homers and a .292 on-base percentage this year.
Boston is currently just two games ahead of the Rays for the AL Wild Card spot.


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Mandatory e-pay for Individuals
Mandatory e-pay law
On September 30, 2008, Assembly Bill 1389 was signed, adding Section 19011.5 to the California Revenue and Taxation Code. This new law requires individuals to remit all future payments electronically once they:
- Make an estimated tax or extension payment (by check or electronic method) over $20,000 for a taxable year beginning on or after January 1, 2009; OR
- File an original return with a tax liability over $80,000 for a taxable year beginning on or after January 1, 2009.
Fiduciaries, estates, and trusts are not required to make payments electronically, regardless of the amount owed.
Group nonresident/composite return filers may be required to make their payments electronically if they meet the mandatory e-pay requirements. We provide detailed instructions so group nonresident/composite filers can pay electronically using Web Pay.
Payments covered by the law
If you make a payment or file a return meeting the mandatory requirement, we will send you an FTB 4106 MEO, Mandatory e-pay Participation Notice, advising you that all future payments must be remitted electronically. NOTE: If you do not receive notification from FTB, you are still required to remit payments electronically once you meet either of the above thresholds.
Some tax preparation software may also remind you to e-pay. If your tax preparation software generates paper Form 540-ES vouchers when you meet the mandatory e-pay threshold, you must still pay electronically.
Once you meet the mandatory e-pay threshold, you are required to make all subsequent payments electronically, regardless of the amount, type, or taxable year. For example: You make your first quarter estimated tax payment of $25,000 on 4.15.13 by paper check. Any payment made after that (for example, a bill payment from a previous year or your second quarter estimated tax payment) must be made electronically.
Mandatory e-pay penalty
When you are required to make electronic payments but pay by other means, we can assess a penalty equal to 1 percent of the amount paid, unless your failure to pay electronically was for reasonable cause and not willful neglect.
On January 1, 2011: FTB started assessing the penalty provision of the statute. Prior to this date we did not assess the penalty to allow taxpayers and their representative's time to implement processes and procedures to comply with the law.
Electronic payment methods
Make your tax payment using one of the following methods:
- Pay online with Web Pay.
- Request an Electronic Funds Withdrawal (EFW) on your e-file return.**
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- Use the pay-by-phone option.**
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You may only send tax payments due to the Franchise Tax Board electronically using one of the methods above. If you owe tax to other agencies that require an electronic payment, you must make those payments directly to them.
NOTE: Making a payment using your bank's online bill payment system is not an electronic payment. Your bank mails a paper check to FTB which does not meet the requirement to pay electronically.
e-file and e-pay
While you must make your tax payments electronically if you meet the e-pay criteria, you are not required to e-file your tax return. We encourage you to e-file if you prepare your own return, but we do not require it.
Waiving the mandatory e-pay requirement
You can request a general or permanent waiver from mandatory e-pay requirement. To request the waiver you must complete and submit form FTB 4107, Mandatory e-pay Election to Discontinue or Waiver Request. We will review your waiver request and notify you in writing when we approve or deny your request.
You can request a general waiver from mandatory e-pay if one or more of the following is true:
- You have not made an estimated tax or extension payment in excess of $20,000 during the previous income year; or your tax liability reported for the previous income year did not exceed $80,000;
- The amount you paid is not representative of your tax liability.
If we grant a waiver and you subsequently meet the mandatory e-pay requirements, you must resume making your payments using an electronic method.
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When you file FTB 4107, to request a permanent impairment waiver you can check a box on the form and have us review your account for possible waiver of a previously imposed mandatory e-pay penalty if all the following exist:
- You received a mandatory e-pay penalty for payments made before receiving approval of your permanent physical or mental impairment request.
- The date on the physician's affidavit of permanent physical or mental impairment pre-dates the assessment of the penalty.
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Advantages of electronic payment methods
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I've had my eye on the range for a while – Created by Koji, a company famous for lash curlers, eye pencils and the like.
The Dolly Wink range has been created in collaboration with Tsubasa Masuwaka (model/popstar).
To understand her look, you might want to read this post.
This is she:
Anyway forget her. The range is cute cute cute! It has a number of eyeliner pencils, liquid liners, eyelash glue, and lots and lots of lashes!
Even though I have black and brown eyeliners coming out of my ears, I couldn't say no to ones that come in pink and black dotty pencils! Cuteeeee!
I love how the packaging looks and the amount of care that goes into making something appealing!
The pencils themselves have a very nice texture. They aren't kohls, but they aren't overly waxy either meaning they work nicely on my waterline.
Are the colours exciting? NO! This range would be amazing with some greens, blues and purples!
The texture is awfully nice though. Its very creamy to touch, and didn't drag or pull my eye area.
It isn't a waterproof pencil and there was a tiny bit of smudging but I think this is down to how cream and rich it is. Plus my eyes water quite a lot!
The black is a matte, rich black and the brown is a warm rich chocolate. I think I prefer the chocolate for slightly more subtly smoky looks.
Do you need these? Well no, not if you already have brown and black eye pencils but they are awfully cute and work well too.
I bought them from eBay, seller Alphabeautyshop for about £9 each.


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Yearly Archives: 2009
Nick Jr. Airs Signing Time Interstitial Music Series Beginning Dec. 9, 2009
This news release was sent out December 8, 2009, from Nickelodeon: NICK JR. TEACHES PRESCHOOLERS SIGN LANGUAGE WITH NEW INTERSTITIAL MUSIC SERIES, SIGNING TIME, BEGINNING WEDNESDAY, DEC. 9 NEW YORK, Dec. 8, 2009 – Nick Jr., Nickelodeon's 24-hour commercial-free, educational
"Story Time" DVD Wins iParenting Award!
We are excited to announce that our newest release, Story Time, has received the iParenting Media Award. iParenting.com, a subsidiary of Disney, is a premier media site that evaluates and tests new products and collects objective feedback from parents. Story
New DVD Coming Soon – Sing & Sign!
by Rebecca Overson, Editor-in-Chief Many of you have been asking for a DVD of Rachel signing some of your favorite Signing Time songs from beginning to end. Well, this is it – Sing & Sign is almost here! Wanna take
Snap Shots from the Life of Rachel de Azevedo Coleman
by Linda de Azevedo, Rachel's Mom I guess you could say Rachel is right-smack-in-the-middle of our family. Being number five of nine children puts four siblings above her and four below her. However, she did sort-of become the oldest child
Testimonial: We Are a Signing Time Family!
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Dear Reader,
Please take the following poll. I am interested in your thoughts on these pairs. I have included the score generated by the model for each pair. This poll is setup to allow multi choice. You can pick up to 3 pairs. It is also setup to allow comments.
Please leave your own suggestions, and I will generate the score for it, for any posts in comments.
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The Home of the Performing, Visual and Literary Arts in the Hill Country
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This may have been addressed already, but it's late and i'm too tired to read through everything that's been said in detail.
My issue with YUI Grids is that regardless of whether the class names used to hook the styles are meaningful, you're doing your markup based on your styles rather than the other way round.
It may not be that much tag soup (though definitely more structural markup than necessary), but it seems to me that it's a step backwards in terms of seperating style from content. It's hard work producing markup that has no fluff, but I like to think that it's worth it, even with all styles disabled every single character in the document source is adding to the meaningful information content of the page (I accept that it's not always possible but it's something we should aim for).
Don't confuse this for blind designer or coder pride concerning my beautiful hand-crafted markup and style rules, i'm all in favour of using frameworks – I use YUI Fonts quite regularly and am quite interested in learning Django, Rails et al. But unless i'm missing some big part of YUI Grids, i can't see how it's the right idea.


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The Power of the Broken Body
Mention the word church and a vast array of images enter the mind. A steepled building housing a congregation; a movement of God across the centuries and the world; "one, holy, catholic, and Apostolic"; "visible and invisible"; "militant and triumphant …Read More
Disabilities and the Gospel: An Interview with Michael Beates
Tabletalk: What inspired you to write Disability and the Gospel? Michael Beates: Some thirty years ago, with the birth of our first child, Jessica, my wife and I began a long journey with disability. Seeking answers and some assurance of …Read More
Lift High the Cross
I recently attended a meeting of our local presbytery (the regular, periodic gathering of local pastors and elders), and I was blessed to sing the words of a classic hymn: "Lift high the cross, the love of Christ proclaim, till …Read More
Patience in Suffering
I hate pain. I try to avoid suffering, and I don't go out of my way to look for affliction. But pain, suffering, and affliction find me. They find all of us. If you are free of these things, brace …Read More
We Shall Be Changed
I am a forty-something adult. I have arrived at that place in life where I am losing weight in my legs while my midsection seems to gain every bit of that lost weight and more. I upgraded (or downgraded) to …Read More
Drifting into Heresy
More than 120 years before the American Revolution, the charter of Harvard College was established. But the "Rules and Precepts" of the college adopted in 1646 show that the leaders saw education (and all of life) as an arena in …Read More
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Dr. Michael S. Beates, a former associate editor of Tabletalk, has taught at Reformed Theological Seminary, Florida Southern, and Belhaven College.


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As I promised we have DL King back with us again this week. There is so more of her to be had, my friends. The depth of The Erotic Mind of this astonishing woman is boundless.
This is Part 2 of our conversation. And if you were still recovering from the holidays last week when Part 1 premiered, you'll want to check out that show as well. All my podcasts are archived right here on my site; so all you have to do is search for Podcast #176. But don't forget to include the #sign when you search.
DL and I discuss:
- Building tension in a petite work or erotic fiction.
- The erotic arc of her stories.
- Her pervy side.
- The current popularity of BDSM erotica.
- The difference between erotica and porn.
- Sex writing is sex work.
- The therapeutic nature if reading/writing erotica.
- What she looks for in the writing of others.
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Got a question or a comment? Wanna rant or rave? Or maybe you'd just like to talk dirty for a minute or two. Why not get it off your chest! Give Dr Dick a call at (866) 422-5680.
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violation) committed when you were age 18 or 19, you will be required to complete a
driver improvement clinic.If you are 18 or older and you accumulate 8 demerit points in 12 months (or 12 points in 24 months), you will receive an advisory letter that cautions you about the consequences of violating the law.If you accumulate 12 demerit points in 12 months (or 18 points in 24 months), you will be required to complete a driver improvement clinic. You must enroll in and satisfactorily complete the clinic within 90 days.If you accumulate 18 demerit points in 12 months (or 24 points in 24 months), your driving privilege will be suspended for 90 days. Additionally, you must complete a driver improvement clinic before your privilege will be restored. Once your privilege is restored, you will be placed on a six-month probation period.If you are under age 20, a computer-based driver improvement clinic will not satisfy a driver improvement clinic requirement. You must satisfactorily complete a clinic that provides classroom instruction.


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I have 2 tickets to this Friday Day Session. It should be amazing since almost all the top players are in town now.
Unfortunately I cannot make it during the day but if anyone can I would be glad to sell these tickets for a lot less than face value and make someone else happy.
Just send me a msg or post if you're interested.
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Book it! Rex gets the biggest win of the season on national TV...
He wiil have the Jets breathing fire against the Texans...
This will be the defining win of his coaching tenure, with all the experts picking against him...
He will quiet all the naysayers and reaffirm that he is in fact one of the top coaches in the NFL...
Rex relishes the "us against the world" angle and uses it to perfection on Monday night...
He will prove his genius very soon, and although the questions about Tanny and Sanchez may soon swirl again...
He will confirm that we indeed have our franchise HC...
Rex is king!
I really would love to believe you, but this is beyond what Rex can pull off.
The Jets are not a good football time right now, but if it happens I'll be looking in the sky.
But I'll bite..
The Texans beat the Dolphins, Jags, and Titans in blow outs. They beat the Broncos by 6. The combined records of the former three is 3-9 while the Broncos are 2-2.
The Jets are 2-2, and no I'm not comparing our 2-2 to the Broncos 2-2, but I really believe that due to all of the issues with our team we will be over looked quite a bit. Can't run, pass, or stop the run, why worry about the lowly Jets?
I don't think the Jets have an extremely talented roster by any means, but I do believe the current roster is vastly under rated. People around here talk as if we are the worst team in the league, with the worst possible roster, and blah blah blah.
Do I see a 10 win season? No, I don't, but I can definitely see this team winning 8 games. Everyone likes to shoo away the fact that Rex took OUR Jets to two AFCCGs. This is probably because we praised him way to much early and fed into his bravado, but come on guys would you rather have Herm or Mangini here?
Now Rex is being crucified by the same fans who not long ago praised him as a genius, similar to the way Mangenius became Mangina. The difference? Rex has taken us farther than we've been in years! I don't approve of alot of our offseason moves, depth choices (how Greene is still a starting NFL RB baffles me), etc. At the end of the day I believe in Rex Ryan, and for whatever reason I expect a win on Monday night. Or maybe I'm a delusional Jets fan who goes off on tangents. /rant over
This is an absolutely unwinnable game, top to bottom. We are about as talented as a decent Div I, maybe even II college team right now.
Zero weapons, and about 40 guys who are chronically out-of-shape, too-weak or too-slow.
They simply didn't field an NFL team this year.
The only way the Jets win this game is if the whole Texans team gets food poisoning.
I said the same last week....we gonna shock the world...and we did, 34 times.
only way rex shocks the world is if he comes out of the tunnel naked.
Not buying this.
I hope so.
The jets are going to have to score more then 25 points to win this game. So y dont u tell us how we are doing that.
Does greene have two 30 yards td runs? Does schilens go for 140 and a td?
Please enlighten us.
Sure, why not. It could happen and I'm gonna watch and scream at the tv.
Only way we win this game is if we:
Score a Def TD
Score a ST TD
+2 TO differential
100+ yards rushing
Offense does not give up a TD


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Ducks Sign Defenseman Lovejoy to Three-Year Contract Extensionby Staff Writer / Anaheim Ducks
Lovejoy, 29 (2/20/84), scored 0-10=10 points with a +4 rating and 29 penalty minutes (PIM) in 35 games with the Ducks and Pittsburgh Penguins last season. Acquired from Pittsburgh in exchange for a fifth-round selection in the 2014 NHL Entry Draft on Feb. 6, 2013, Lovejoy ranked tied for second among Anaheim defensemen with 10 assists in 32 games. The 6-2, 215-pound blueliner also added 0-2=2 points while averaging 21:05 time-on-ice (TOI) in seven Stanley Cup Playoff games against Detroit.
Signed as a free agent by Pittsburgh on July 8, 2008, Lovejoy has appeared in five NHL seasons with the Penguins and Ducks. In 130 career NHL games, he has earned 4-31=35 points with a +26 rating and 92 PIM. Lovejoy set numerous career highs with Pittsburgh in 2010-11, including goals (3), assists (14), points (17), plus/minus (+11) and games played (47). He has also played 16 career Stanley Cup Playoff games, scoring 0-4=4 points with four PIM.
A native of Concord, New Hampshire, Lovejoy played four seasons in the American Hockey League (AHL) with Norfolk (2006-07) and Wilkes-Barre/Scranton (2007-10) after signing his original AHL contract on July 7, 2007. In 218 career AHL games, Lovejoy recorded 18-62=80 points with a +57 rating and 245 PIM between the Admirals and AHL Penguins. He also made appearances in the Calder Cup Playoffs, including a trip to the Calder Cup Final in 2008. Lovejoy appeared in 37 career Calder Cup Playoff games with Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, scoring 3-11=14 points with a +3 rating and 34 PIM.


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I have a question for those who have placed caches. Do you really get landowner permission? If it's on City/State owned land, do you get permission from "Parks & Rec" or the park manager like you probably should?
This is one thing that has troubled me for awhile about this hobby. I don't want to be tromping around somewhere I'm not supposed to be. Nor do I want to be bothering/disturbing land and causing damage by being one of a hundred geocachers who go through to the cache.
I have a feeling that for the most part, people do not get permission from anyone to place a cache, and the thought of that bothers me for some reason. Maybe I am way wrong here, just an observation/question.


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True ReligionJames 5
In this two-part series, Dr. R.C. Sproul examines teachings from the New Testament book of James. As Dr. Sproul explains, true religion is active in caring for the needs of the helpless. And, in examining James chapter 5, Dr …Read More
TruthJames 5
Dr. R.C. Sproul focuses on the importance of truth in our thinking, speech, and arguments, adding that the Hebrew concept also includes integrity in living. He notes the widespread aversion to the truth presented in Christian doctrines, and points …Read More