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Hyun Bin (현빈) 그남자 (That Man) [Secret Garden OST]
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so cool..
his voice so amazing.. ^_^
:) u're right.. he's talented.. Hyun Bin jjang..
i love this song...and i love this man much more...
we will miss u oppa....
Love the song soooo much...
Soooo cute hyun bin..
we will missyou..... oppa..
aja.. aja...
I like this song very much.. I hope I can see Hyun Bin and Ha Ji Won in the next korean drama.. Love you Secret Garden! (:
Love this song!! Hyun Bin Oppa, saranghaeyo
i never tought that hyeon bin has a romantic voice when he is singing, but now.... its cool man.... specially when he was sing "You Raise Me Up" on the 19th eps.
Thank you, I really love this song.
I love this song n this is the 1st time i ever hear him sing! n what can i said 'bout his voice?! Too perfect!
Gya~ saranghae hyun bin oppa!!
I <3 Hyun Bin
oh!!! my gosh!! nakakakilig! .. talaga!!
<3 <3 <3
keep up the good work !!
Good luck !
WAAAAHHH this song is very WONDERFUL! Hope to hear more songs from you! FIGHTING OPPA!!
HYUN BIN OPPA~~ <333 Aja Fighting! :***** SARANGHAEYO!!
Wow! Thank you for posting the lyrics... I love the song so much as well as I love Hyun Bin and Ha Ji Won. Hope to see them in another delightful Korean drama. Secret Garden the Best!!!!
Wonderfull song for me, thank you oppa Hyun Bin for this song.LUV YOU So Much... Hermida Takizawa ^^
Hyun Bin's voice voice is perfect for this song .
i love Ha Ji Won ..
i love Secret Garden ..
i love the other OSTs ( namely : REASON by 4Men ) ^^
i love OSKA .. <3
most importantly , i love this song !
saranghaeyo , Hyun Bin oppa !! :)
Hyun Bin , when will i ever meet you in person ?? :)
I Love This Song So Much..Can't Stop Singing It Every Where I Go..^^,
Hyun Bin!I heard you are in a Korean Marine these days and you'll be done training @ Dec.6,2012.haeng un! :D
thank you very much for sharing the lyrics of "That Man by Hyun Bin. already finished watching the korean drama but still keep insisting to watch it again nd again...so much in love with the story. more power to ur career Hyun bin same with ms. Ha Ji Won. more movies and korean drama for both of u. mwaaaahhhhhh!!!!
Thank's for the romanization lyrics of Hyun Bin "Than man" in Secret Garden...now I can sing it by myself...even i need to play the song every minute....that's how much I'm so addicted to this korean drama...such a very lovely story....waiting for HYUN BIN nd HA JI WON for more good movies and korean drama...coming up...to all the cast of Secret Garden...a job welll done...
hyun bin i really like ur voice when u sing "that man"en to all cast of secret garden guys hope to see u in person..
i love this song...Super i love Korean songs...i love the romanization of this song...kakilig...^^ love it....
oppa i raelly like u so much
first time i knew that this song singing by Hyun bin, i thought he is another guy with the same name. i really shocked that he is really Hyun Bin, his voice is really great.
I love your song Mr. Make Money , Kim Jon Woon^^ Hyun Bin oppa saranghae~
i love your song oppa hyun bin,ofcourse kim jon woon and haji won i love,such a lovely story,a chemistry so sweet your so comfstible.i hope to see you in next korean drama.i love secret garden cast of secret garden so much.your so great cast of secret garden.i love you all. muahhh.
I Miss Hyun Bin.
Love this song and with Hyun Bin's voice... It's perfect!
A good and handsome actor, with a beautiful voice, in a excellent drama with a great partner, Ha Ji Won... just amazing!!!
Oppa saranghae...
I will miss u so much hyun bin oppa...
so beautiful song i realy like........
i really love this song..it's perfect...and the voice of hyun bin are really amazing ...when i hear his song always feel inlove... i love you HYUN BIN.....I REally miss you...and also HA JI WON....for me secret garden is the best... oppa,omma,,,,saranghae.... mwuahhhhhh...mwuahhhh... i wish you two will go here in philippines...
I really really love this song!!!Hyun Bin oppa I really miss You!!!come back safely, ok?....hope you'll make more movies with ha ji won!!!a job well done!!cast of Secret Garden...relly love this...munjjawasyong!munjjawassyong!...hehehe...
난 정말, 정말 당신에게 현 빈과 하 지원 운 그리워 ...
난 당신의 두 위대한 영화와 드라마를 함께 할 것입니다 소원 ...
시크릿 가든이 최고입니다!
오웬 김 당신이 할 수있는 최선의 방법인가? 확실 한가? ..... hehehe
당신을 사랑 !!!!! mwuahhhhh
this song is really... really.. hmmm :) hyun bin oppa, saranghaeyo.. jongmal saranghaeyo..
i never thought he could sing so great.. it's so nice..
saranghamnida Hyun Bin and Ha Ji Won...i realy like your song opa....
good luck Hyun Bin to your marine....take care to your self...^_^saranghamnida opa....
Lovely song...I really love it, so calm and from heart!!! Saranghae Hyun Bin
like it
Thank you for putting up the lyrics.
This song is so nice. Fall in love with this song and the voice the very first time after hearing. Nv know it was sang by Hyun Bin.
Good show, good casts, nice OST. Secret Garden, well done!
Hyun Bin is so amasing,i didn't know that his voice was so amazing *o* I LOVE YOU OPPA <3 <3
FIGHTING!!!!!! ^o^
Amina from Algeria XD
현빈 I Love You... 희망의 더 많은 것을 보고 곧 당신의 드라마...........
Hope To see more of your new drama...
Secret Garden, Hyun Bin and That Man will never forget about them!
I like this song,, :)
thanks for sharing the lyrics!!
been addicted to this song like forever!!!
can't wait for hyun bin oppa to be in new korean dramas asap!!!
anw,who knows where can i get the english translation?thanks :)
this song is so unfogetable song for me and especially the drama of "secret garde".. imixzs this song very much..
saramnghae.. hyun bin
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saranghabnida Hyun Bin !!
`He's so talented :DD handsome ..:))
`hope ya visit here in Philippines after the marines ^^ .. :)
eolmana eolmana deo neoreul ireoke baraman bomyeo honja
i baramgateun sarang i geojigateun sarang gyesokhaeya niga nareul sarang hagenni
thank you so much for this lyric
he is in Indonesia now
really great and romantic song also his voice. saranghae hyun bin oppa :*
he is a soldier now....goodluck with your new vocation HYUN BIN,,
izin copy paste liriknya ya... pingin bisa nyanyiin lagunya... thanks.. :)
His gentle voice make my head feel dizzy... I love this song soo much, thanks for sharing this lyric. Keep posting! Hyunbin oppa saranghae :-)
Unbearable cute....................... Thanks!
Would you post the hangeul version? I like learning korean language, thanks b4..
i love this song ^_^
hyun bin oppa, saranghae!!!... :D
Hyun bin markotop!!!
what is the meaning of the song? i cant stop myself from listening to it even though i do not understand a single word from the song.. nakaka.adik ang song.. hehehe.. but i love it.. love you hyun bin..
Hyun Bin you have a good voice.I can't stop myself to hear this song over and over again..
Wish you all the best...
I love Secret Garden korean drama, so their sound tracks!! especially this song male and female version... though im not a korean but im learning this song now! fighting!
awesome and heart melting voice HYUN BIN......!!!!!!!!!!!1
I like it... The song is very nice... made my imagination fly so high... and it's touch my heart...
Thank you for posting this song. I like it very much until now. Even though I have trouble pronouncing it properly, I'll learn it eventually. ^^
Thanks a lot everyone... :)
I love this song ,so romantic and Hyun Bin's voice is amazing and nice looking guy.
I love this man!!!!mmmmmmmmmm
hey..i like this song...is good song...,, ngecamp that man
Been practising this song for karaoke =p Very nice song!
Love you oppa!!! I love this song. Ur nice voice! I wanna marry u if i older
he is so cool and a great singer.. i am looking forward to their next movie with ha ji won..
Secret Garden is the best Korean drama I ever watched so far, I love the story,love the acting of Hyun bin & Ha Ji Won..hoping to see them again in another series or movie.
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Posted 04 February 2014 - 04:00 PM
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The possession of nuclear weapons by Muslim states does not fit anywhere in the US vision of the New World. The US is committed to neutralizing any emerging challenges to its global hegemony, both economic and military. Since the US can do little to counter the economic threat from emerging economic superpowers such as China and Europe, it has begun focusing heavily on countering military and strategic threats. Muslim states armed with nuclear weapons are one such intolerable threat. In its endeavours, it has found a natural ally in Israel. The alliance is one that is based on national self-interests – energy availability and power-projection for the US and self-preservation for Israel. Containment of Islam is also a common objective of both the countries, which are bitterly and vehemently opposed to any Muslim country acquiring nuclear weapons, which they perceive as threats to their strategic interests.
The US invasion of Iraq started a long-term joint US-Israeli-Europe strategy to weaken, neutralize, 'tame' and, eventually, reshape the Islamic World. Beginning with the most powerful Muslim countries, this strategy is aimed at securing US strategic and economic interests and guaranteeing the survivability, dominance and ascendancy of Israel in the Middle East, both as local US policeman and agent provocateur – to keep the Muslim World otherwise occupied by periodically stirring up trouble in its heartland. What is happening in the Middle East today is not just about Iraq – it's about all those Muslim countries – Iraq, Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan (among others) – that potentially have the power and means to oppose US/Israeli hegemony and control of the region – a grand new design to change the political and strategic landscape of the entire Muslim World, beginning with the Middle East. The US and Israel hope to achieve something similar to what was done to the area under the Paris Peace Conference of 1918 – the infamous "Peace to end all Peace", whose violent legacy the world is still reaping today.
If the US is opposed to Muslim countries acquiring nuclear weapons then, a priori, it is also opposed to Muslim countries retaining nuclear weapons – one logically follows from the other. The US has, for the time being, and for reasons of diplomatic, geopolitical and strategic expediency, conveniently ignored Pakistan's nuclear programme, but it has not reconciled with it. Pakistan must understand this and not misread US intentions – silence is not necessarily acceptance. It is logical that Pakistan, the Islamic World's only nuclear power, will, for various reasons, find itself in the crosshairs and become the target of joint US-Israeli-Indian machinations at a propitious moment in time. Today, the US has more pressing problems to worry about – Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Syria and North Korea. Its palette is currently full. However, once it has "sorted out" these countries, it will, inevitably, turn and focus its attention on Pakistan. How can the US and Israel – who cannot even tolerate Muslim countries from attaining superior conventional defence capabilities, remain silent in the face of a Muslim nuclear power that is, with the passage of each day, strengthening and consolidating its nuclear deterrent capabilities. It is logically inconceivable how the US can let Pakistan, the world's only Muslim nuclear power, perceived by the US of proliferating nuclear technology to two of America's greatest enemies – Iran and North Korea, get away scot-free? This is a gathering storm that Pakistan needs to keep a close eye on.
We can either face up to this reality or go into a state of denial and remain oblivious to the distant rumble of this storm like an ostrich, which, when faced with danger, buries its head in the ground believing that the threat does not exist or hoping it will go away. It's all very simple – the US does not perceive it to be in its national interest for any Muslim country to possess nuclear weapons. National interest is the overriding factor in determining a country's policy towards other nations. There has already been official 'chatter' in Washington, D.C. of invoking, at some future date, the Bush doctrine of pre-emption against Pakistan – on the false notion that Pakistan's nuclear weapons are in danger of falling into the hands of "Islamic radicals" and pose a threat to US and Western interests. Allegations of nuclear proliferation to Iran and North Korea (the so-called "Axis of Evil") may also be employed as an additional excuse to rally American and Western support for such an action. The US is, for the time being, holding on to the A.Q. Khan card very close to its chest in order to play it at a more opportune time in future. If a false premise can be concocted vis-à-vis Iraq, then a similar concoction can be brewed as an excuse to launch a pre-emptive strike against Pakistan.
One nightmare scenario envisages a CIA/Mossad-sponsored assassination of President – paving the way for a US pre-emptive strike against Pakistan's nuclear capability on the pretext that Pakistan's nuclear weapons are in danger of falling into the "wrong hands".
This scenario is the subject of continuous contingency planning and wargaming at the Pentagon. Reportedly, the Pentagon is preparing a contingency plan for exactly such an eventuality involving the neutralization of Pakistan's nuclear deterrent capability and it has, on numerous occasions, let its intentions be known through planned "leaks."
Periodically, the US intelligence agencies release "Reports", such as the 2005 Global Futures Assessment Report prepared and recently released jointly by the US National Intelligence Council and the CIA, which claims (rather outlandishly) that Pakistan will be a Yugoslavia-like "failed state" by 2015 with Islamic extremists vying for the control of its nuclear weapons. The purpose behind periodically releasing such baseless "Reports" is to marinate public opinion to prepare it for a forced nuclear disarmament campaign against Pakistan at some future date.
The modus operandi would be vastly different from Iraq since, in the case of Pakistan, the United States would be dealing with an established nuclear power with operational nuclear weapons and even the world's sole superpower does not possess the capability to occupy a country with more than 170 million people, of whom at least 6 million are armed, with highly-trained armed forces and a terrain much different from that of Iraq – one more suited for protracted guerrilla and attrition warfare. Pakistan is a country that cannot be occupied militarily.
However, Pakistan's nuclear installations can be targeted using American airpower with the help of US satellites. Although, one may question US ability to locate and destroy each and every well-concealed mobile launcher in a mountainous country the size of Texas and twice the size of Iraq. In order to effectively counter this threat, Pakistan needs to invest heavily in airpower and high altitude air defence systems.
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Continued..................FULL ARTICLE: http://www.pakdef.or...e-q-a/?p=211338
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Posted 04 February 2014 - 11:54 PM
wont happen, our nuke installations are all well dispersed, deep underground . a division size force , highly trained and funded is dedicated to its defence with zero tolerance for any 'intrusions' .Pakistani nuclear programe could only have been stopped in its very infancy, not now.
it is the US that will break into 50 states
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I don't think our forces have any doubt about the number of enemies who would like to do away with our nuclear assets if they could get a chance to do so.
No, I am worried that they may focus too much on the nukes and forget that a country... No a nation, needs a lot more than nukes to survive and prosper in the long run.
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Not equal are the owners of the fire and the owners of the Garden. The owners of the Garden, they are the victorious. [Quran 59:20]
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I think blueazure and noxiouspython, nowadays, very high quality 24/7 cameras can easily find and focus on any weapons movements. Your point of having deep underground facilitates and bombs can give protection to some degree, nowadays more powerful bunker-busters and earth penetrating bombs like the 30,000-pound M.O.P: www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR1eh3F5lME
and especially the earth-penetrating radars or the GPRs,
we should be worried how much already Intel those enemies have taken from Pakistan.
I have updated the link, for the complete article on "Nuclear collateral deterrence" the top most post, please read the full article.
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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:21 AM
Pakistan doesn't have any expansionist policy or tendency, the nuclear weapons are solely for defence purpose only; and I believe the world knows this well.
The only issue US has with us is the proliferation to other countries, but that's it. Even they know Pakistani nuclear program is of defensive nature.
Therefore we don't have this threat from those bunker busting bombs and such, and even if the US has some knowledge about some our nuclear storage and facilities it won't make much difference what so ever.
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Posted 20 February 2014 - 09:59 PM
MAD - Mutual Assured Destruction:
Guys, we need to have this doctrine.
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Posted 21 February 2014 - 02:00 AM
there exists no camera or any radar that can see whats underground
had that been the case, oil exploration would be the easiest job on the planet
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Posted 26 February 2014 - 05:04 PM
there exists no camera or any radar that can see whats underground
had that been the case, oil exploration would be the easiest job on the planet
Watchi this: http://video.pbs.org/video/2330303454/
And this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQaRfA7yJ0g
Details: How it works?
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Posted 26 February 2014 - 11:39 PM
^^ old method, oil companies reservoir engineering teams use this to somewhat asses the possibility of oil pockets , the method is give or take 50% accurate.
most importantly, the cross electrodes / sensors have to be in 'contact' with the ground .
no satellite exists which can see below ground from 10 miles up
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it is the US that will break into 50 states
Lets not dream about breakup of other states our prime focus should be ourselves
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Many people fail to achieve online marketing success and in most cases this is due primarily to not staying focused on the task at hand. As harmless as this may seem in isolated instances the compounding effect of not focusing on what you are doing sabotages your ability to establish any type of foundation. Most any successful online businesses reached that status through the culmination of several seemingly insignificant accomplishments. However this is what building any business is all about, minor achievements that eventually lead to major stepping stones!
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Tasks Left Undone
When not staying focused on what you are doing your results in many cases will reflect an incomplete task left to clutter up your busy work schedule on another day. Most successful online businesses get that way through the consistent completion of any tasks or functions no matter how big or small they may be! Much like an assembly line once one job is finished attention is then turned to the next!
Lack of Quality Effort
Even when fully completing a job, when your are not paying close attention to what you are doing your results usually will not be of the highest quality! Of course when you add all these results up it is not reasonable to expect the great successes others are experiencing. As the saying goes garbage in garbage out!
Open to Distractions
By not staying focused on the job in front of you it becomes very easy to get distracted and many times this ends up with you wasted time! Now you are not only leaving certain responsibilities incomplete but you are also leaving yourself even less time to tend to them. This is a hole you do not want to dig for yourself!
Increase in Frustration
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Loss of Motivation
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Your marketing success online will be determined by the culmination of many seemingly minor but successfully completed tasks. Therefore focusing on the task at hand will be of critical importance and is something every one of those successful online businesses before you have already mastered! Remember you can not expect to get great results from an unfocused effort but rather you can assume it will only serve to sabotage your success as discussed above. Your focus will be needed to accomplish the 'little' things that will eventually culminate in yours being another one those hugely successful online businesses!


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Talk:Vehicles in GTA IV
| This talk page is for discussing the Vehicles in GTA IV article.
This includes commenting on the article, questioning whether it is correct, or adding suggestions for improvements
Questions about GTA games, not about the wiki page itself, should be asked at Community:Questions.Remember to always add your signature to the end of your comments/replies using four tildes:
Top Speeds?
I've been wondering where the info came from for some of the cars' top speeds? For eg. the Super GT in IV, it says it's 105 mph (170 km/h), which seems much too low. I would have thought it was more like 180mph. I have no way to verify this but it would be weird for the R* developers to not be accurate and to scale with top speed.
Yaksox 05:28, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Why would it be weird? R* has a history of making cars with low top speeds.--spaceeinstein 20:19, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
- -- Okay. cool, I'm not that familiar with the history of the series. Feel free to delete this. Yaksox 01:46, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
I've been working on a table simular to the one used on San Andreas, using information the game actually has when you start a multiplayer "race" type. I'm posting to ask if this would be acceptable.
The "race" type actually has the type of car that it is (supercar, sports, executive, etc.) along with around four vehicles belonging to it. I've been adding the rest that werent listed yself, playing the game along side it to confirm it. I, however, havent finished the list and would like people to help with this.
Daniel Blackwell 11:33, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- Feel free to post your table in a subpage here (eg Vehicles in GTA IV/Table2) for us to see, then more people can work on it. As for separating cars, we definitely need more categories than just one or two, but unless the number of vehicles listed massively increases (I'm not sure how complete the list is) then I don't think any more than 10 in total are neccessary.
- Vehicles in GTA San Andreas uses: Sports Cars, SUV, Lowrider, Muscle Cars, Vans, Industrial, 2 Door, 4 Door, Service, Fun, Government, Planes, Helicopters, Boats, Bikes, Remote Control. Could you suggest your categories so we can see how the breakdown is? Essentially, we just need to make the table easy to use and useful for visitors - just having 'cars' doesn't do that - Gboyers (?) 11:40, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
I've created that page with the table that I have been working on. The list below that are vehicles that I've yet to add to the table.
The headers are the categorys that Rockstar created for the multiplayer. Some of the vehicles though look out of place. Note for for some they were added by me using my best judgement.
Please feel free to totally rearrange the table and it's listings.
Daniel Blackwell 16:15, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thats quite good. However, I think the number of categories is a bit high. Perhaps you could merge some into lists of about 10 cars ber box? That way the table is perhaps easier to use. For example, police and half of public service can go into 'Emergency', whilst the other half of public-service can be merged with public transport. Same with SUV and pickups. Perhaps people carrier and SUV too? Same with Vans and Trucks. Muscle and 2-door? You get the picture. Having categories with only 4 cars may help some, but it makes it more arkward to do a broader search. Gboyers (?) 16:25, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
I've added a second table under the first one in Vehicles in GTA IV/Table2. I cut it back to 10 categories. The 4 door and station wagons list is a little long but I couldn't find an easy way to fix that, maybe I'll come up with something better tomorrow when I'm not so tired. Elbarto90se 02:11, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for that, it's looking great. One criticism I do have is the use of ambiguous terms. Names such as SUV, station wagon and muscle car aren't used as much outside the USA. Also you have Vans and Commercial Vans, so perhaps the sections could be named a bit clearer. I'd suggest the 4 door section simply contains 4 door saloons, then all larger vehicles go into the SUV or 4x4 section, and smaller vehicles go into the 2 door, hatchback or 'smaller cars' category. Muscle cars should definitely go with sports cars, but what about lowriders? They don't count as small cars (even though they have 2 doors), and they don't count as 4x4s/SUVs. Any suggestions on that? I think we're nearly sorted, thanks for all this, great work - Gboyers (?) 02:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
I've rejiggled the list using my own thoughts on it, and also using Elbarto90se's table. Again, using San Andreas as a "template". It's currently in list form since I was copying and pasting. Obviously, it's needs some work. I seperated some of the cars from sports because they dont seem to fall under the category of sports cars (like muscle cars). Daniel Blackwell 14:25, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
More Changes to Table?
The Comet vehicle needs to to be in the sports car section of the vehicles table. It is an extremely high performance vehicle ing GTA IV!Vax217 03:09, 8 May 2008 (UTC) Vax217
I've seen the updates you guys have made to the vehicles page and I like them a lot. I have a few suggestions, though, to improve the listings. Please let me know if this is okay.
I would consider all of these sports cars - the Coquette, the Turismo, the Super GT, and maybe even the Vigero or Comet.
What do you think about muscle cars combining with sports cars?
Also, I think we could widen the "Normal Cars" column to split the list in half and make two columns. Then it wouldn't be so disproportionate to the other columns.
Infernus is in two separate lists.
Thanks for listening.
PJsg1009 21:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- We're working on a new table to better organise this (see above). Also, it is better than a car is listed in two sections if it clearly fits into both sections. That way the cars are easy to find if you're looking for them. Gboyers (?) 02:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
As you should know if you're regular players in GTA IV is that cars have name and brand name now, as well. What I suggest is to make a list with the makers and the cars, in stead of ordering them by their body size.
- I'm not so sure that the vehicles have "make and model," but more importantly, this table is intended to help readers find a particular vehicle they are looking for. It is much easier to find the specific sports car, for instance, that they're looking for with the current format than if the table were ordered by make and model. --GuildKnightTalk2me 02:17, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
What I meant to say is that the best option would be adding the manufacturers to the cars, besides ordering them by their body size or platform, whatever (just because cars DO have brands, p.e. Classique Stallion, or Vapid Uranus, or Dundreary Admiral). IMO, that would make the list more complete and also practical, accounting for your suggestion. Nevertheless, that would difference GTA IV vehicles from those in other GTAs; they don't look similar at all.
- I don't think many people know these vehicles by their brand name, and I don't think a brand name is a useful piece of information in this context. If, for example, I remember a sports car I liked and wanted to know what it was called, I'd look at the pages of all the cars under "Sports Cars" to find a picture of it. Or if I wanted to choose a car to use for a particular function, I'd look under the relevant section and pick from there. Knowing brand names doesn't help at all, and in fact can make it more complicated than it needs to be, considering the cars only say "Stallion" "Uranus" etc when you get in them. Please explain how manufacturer name would help people find things (which is the point of this page)? Gboyers talk 20:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, it could be not necessary, but it would fit perfect as a compliment and it may open this page a gate to talk about brands history, talking about logos, real life basis... Bah, I thought it would be a good idea. Just as a matter of curiosity fact. :PPP I don't want to argue, man. That is my point of view, and all I wanted to do is to help.
- Don't worry... It's definitely something to think about, we just wanted to explain why it wasn't appropriate for this page, rather than just saying, "That's a bad idea." You might consider adding this info to the individual cars' pages, as a sort of extra detail. --GuildKnightTalk2me 19:03, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
- Absolutely. Sorry, I didn't mean to dismiss your idea. There should definitely be a Car Brands or Vehicle Manufacturers page, with a better name to replace Category:Automotive Makers. That page could have a table showing the cars made by each of the main manufacturers. That should be linked to from here. Gboyers talk 19:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Inclusion of The Lost and Damned DLC vehicles.
Should the DLC vehicles be on this page as well or in its own section? In the trailer there was already proof of one new vehicle, the Angel. If they should be put on this page they should have a asterisks or a note of the vehicle bieng in the DLC as opposed to the GTA4.
- That depends. If the DLC places the new cars in the main game as well s the new storyline, then they will go here with a note (or in a new section?). If however it isn't possible for Niko Bellic to drive them then I think that they should get their own page (Vehicles in The Lost and Damned?) and definitely be linked to from here. Does anyone else have any suggestions though? Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 01:03, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with BGFE; we won't be able to tell how items from the DLC should be documented until we see to what degree it is independent of - or integrated with - the main game. --GuildKnightTalk2me 03:06, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
So The Lost and Damned has been released, how does it work? I'm unable to buy it cos I own a PS3, not a 360. Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 07:33, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure why the TLAD tags were removed, but it's misleading to have the list like this. I'm of the opinion that these vehicles shouldn't be listed on this page, since they aren't available to Niko. Any opinions? --GuildKnightTalk2me 05:11, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Everywhere else on the wiki it seems that we refer to "GTA IV" as the original (This is a mission in GTA IV, This is a vehicle in GTA IV, etc.) and TLAD seems to be treated like it's own game, so I agree! Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 05:16, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
I tried making a page called vehicles in Grand Theft Auto Episodes from Liberty City but Chimpso wouldn't allow it so he deleted it and gave me a warning.
Estate cars
There is no section that specifically says it includes estate cars (station wagons). The Ingot is included in the saloon section, while the other estates, stratum and solair, are listed under SUVs, pickups and vans. Should something be done about this? Hbriz 08:52, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
The Tug is included in commercial and industrial, when it doesn't actually exist in the game. It was replaced by the Air tug, and the Tug in Gta IV is a boat, which is listed in the boats section. Hbriz 22:31, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Its fixed now. Hbriz 22:48, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Should we put the vehicles of the DLCs here too?
- See the earlier discussion. Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 06:23, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
Chimpso won't allow It
Missleading Information
Where it says musle cars and vintage, shouldn't it just say muscle cars because there are no vintage cars in the game Gtaunited 03:29, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
For instance,Peyote would be an "vintage" car.--Oreo Biskuit!!Eleven 02:05, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
And the Voodoo Homerjs 22:48, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
Police Predator
FYI, in-game, the Predator is reffered to as the "Police Predator" when entered.
New Form
Insead of the bland table, how about Homerjs 01:09, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
Sports Cars
Muscle Cars
2 Door Hatchbacks
4 Door Cars
- Personally, I find this more cumbersome when dealing with vehicles in 3D GTA games. Whereas vehicles in top-down GTA games are consistently rendered in tolerable sizes, these images are too large and and vary by height due to the need to fit vehicles of different lengths into these images. Imagine applying a design like this in a list; as illustrated above, the images will occupy far more space than necessary, and scrolling through the list will be a pain in the ass as a result. It's cases like these where technical differences are apparent when consistency isn't necessarily a good thing. - ZS 04:41, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
I really like your wiki about cars. But here is one thing missed. Navigators on cars. If you you will choose in GTA IV menu "GPS Speech: On selected cars", not all cars will have a navigator. I think you need to add info about navigators in cars.
Top Speeds Again
Hey guys, i got some questions...
Then i came to this wiki, i wanted to get some info about "Max Velocity" of some cars, for example - Pfister Comet Wiki says, that Max Velocity of Comet is 175 km/h After that i opened handling.dat, and saw, that Max Velocity of Comet is 160 km/h (my handling.dat is absolutely deafult) I write here, because the Wiki says (page "Handling.cfg/GTAIV"):
"Max Velocity - This is the maximum velocity of the vehicle's transmission. This determines the length of the gears, which (along with number of gears and drive force) affects how fast the vehicle accelerates. The actual top speed is lower, and is affected by mass and drag."
The question is: How can Comet's Max Velocity be higher than 160 km/h (according to your Wiki)?


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Let's hack an Ikea lamp into a single-digit clock! How? Read on…
Updated 18/03/2013
Time for another instalment in my irregular series of clock projects. (Or should that be "Time for another instalment in the series of irregular clock projects"?) In contrast with the extreme "blinkiness" of Clock One, in this article we describe how to build this single-digit digital clock:
Once again the electronics of the clock will be based from an Arduino-compatible board with a DS1307 real-time clock IC added to the board. On top of this we add a shield with some extra circuitry and two buttons – but more on this later. The inspiration for this clock came from a product that was recently acquired at Ikea – the "Kvart" work lamp, for example:
If you are shopping for one, here are the Ikea stock details:
The goal is to place the electronics of the clock in the base, and have one single-digit LED display at the top of the neck which will blink out the digits. There will be two buttons under the base that are used to set the time. It will be powered by a 9V battery or an AC adaptor which is suitable for a typical Arduino board.
This article is a diary of my construction, and you can always use your own knowledge and initiative. It is assumed that you have a solid knowledge of the basics of the Arduino system. If not, review my series of tutorials available from here. Furthermore, feel free to modify the design to work with what you have available – I hope this article can be of some inspiration to you.
It is much easier to prototype the clock and get the Arduino sketch working how you like it before breaking down the lamp and building up the clock. To do this involves some jumper wires and a solderless breadboard, for example:
Although there are four buttons on the board we only use two. They are connected to digital pins eight and nine (with 10k pull-down resistors). The LED display segments a~g are connected to Arduino digital pins 0~6 respectively. The decimal point is connected to the pulse output pin of the DS1307 – which will be set to a 1Hz output to have a nice constant blinking to show the clock is alive and well.
If you are unfamiliar with operating the DS1307 real-time clock IC please review this tutorial. Operation of the clock has been made as simple for the user as possible. To set the time, they press button A (on digital eight) while the current time is being displayed, after which point the user can select the first digit (0~2) of the time by pressing button A. Then they press button B (on digital nine) to lock it in and move to the second digit (0~9) which is again chosen with button A and selected with button B. Then they move onto the digits in the same manner.
After this process the new time is checked for validity (so the user cannot enter invalid times such as 2534h) – and is ok, the clock will blink the hyphen twice and then carry on with the new time. If the entered time is invalid, the clock reverts back to the current time. This process is demonstrated in the following video clip:
You can download the Arduino sketch from here.
The parts required to replicate the Clock Two in this article are:
- One Arduino-compatible board with DS1307 real-time clock IC as described in this article
- One Arduino protoshield and header pins
- One common-cathode 7-segment LED display of your choosing
- Seven current-limiting resistors to reduce the output current from Arduino digital outputs going to the LED segments. In our example we use a 560 ohm resistor network to save time
- Two buttons and two 10k ohm pull-down resistors
- One meter of nine-core wire that will fit inside the neck and stand of the Kvart lamp – an external diameter of less than 6mm will be fine
- And of course – the lamp
The protoshield is used to hold the buttons, resistor network and the terminus for the wires between the LED display and the Arduino digital outputs, for example:
At this stage you will need to do some heavy deconstruction on the lamp. Cut off the mains lead at the base and remove the plastic grommet from the stand that surrounded the AC lead. Next, with some elbow grease you can twist off the lamp-shade unit from the end of the flexible neck. You could always reuse the lamp head and AC lead if wired by a licensed electrician.
Now you need to feed the multicore wire through the neck and down to the base of the lamp. You can pull it through the hole near the base, and then will need to drill a hole in the base to feed it through to the electronics as such:
Take care when feeding the cable though so you don't nick the insulation as shown above. Leave yourself a fair bit of slack at the top which will make life easier when soldering on the LED display, for example:
The next step is to solder the wires at the top to the LED display. Make notes to help recall which wires are soldered to the pins of the display. If your soldering skills (like mine) aren't so good, use heatshrink to cover the soldering:
Most displays will have two GND pins, so bridge them so you only need to use one wire in the multicore back to base:
At this point use the continuity function of a multimeter or a low-voltage power source to test each LED segment using the other end of the cable protruding from the base. Once you are satisfied the segments have been soldered correctly, carefully draw the cable back through the neck and base in order to reduce the slack between the display and the top of the lamp neck. Then solder the individual LED segment wires to the protoshield.
Now if you have not already done so, upload the sketch into the Arduino board – especially if you are going to permanently mount the circuitry into the base. A simple method of mounting would be using a hot glue gun, but for the purpose of demonstration we have just used blu-tac:
Although this does look a little rough, we are using existing stock which kept the cost down. If you are going to power the clock with an AC adaptor, you will also need to cut out small opening to allow the lead to protrude from the side of the base. And now for the resulting clock – our Clock Two:
So there you have it, the second of many clocks we plan to describe in the future.
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