text:
LEESBURG, Va. -- Bob Gaus of St. Louis and tournament rookie Bruce Nakamura of Vista, Calif., each overcame a near-disastrous tour of the 18th hole at River Creek Club on Thursday to post matching 3-under-par 69s and share the opening-round lead in the 24th Southworth Senior PGA Professional National Championship presented by Mercedes-Benz USA.
The twosome owns a one-stroke lead in a Championship featuring 264 players representing 43 states, who are competing on two uniquely challenging venues in Northern Virginia. Defending Champion Kirk Hanefeld of Acton, Mass., one of 26 players overall to break par on a cool sunny day, heads a 10-member delegation just a stroke back. Seventeen players turned in sub-par rounds at River Creek Club, while the remaining nine battled demanding 6,899-yard Creighton Farms layout in nearby Aldie, Va.
Creighton Farms yielded a scoring average of 77.50, while River Creek Club competitors averaged 76.32.
Gaus, a PGA teaching professional at Tower Tee Golf Center in St. Louis, made five birdies and a bogey before he stepped to the tee on the par-4 415-yard 18th hole. He then knocked his tee shot into the water and hit his approach to the green, just missing a 60-foot par attempt.
"I thought that I had hit a drive down the middle, but it was too close to the water, it got a funny bounce, and the ball bounced in the water," said Gaus. "I also bogeyed the sixth hole with a wedge in my hand. Overall, I'm pleased. It's a good start. Four days like that, and I would be at Bellerive next year [for the Senior PGA Championship]. I am not trying to put too much added pressure on myself."
The field will be trimmed to the low 70 scorers and ties after Friday's second round, with Creighton Farms hosting the final 36 holes of play. The low 35 scorers after Sunday's final round advance to the 74th Senior PGA Championship presented by KitchenAid next May at historic Bellerive Country Club in St. Louis.
"There is a lot of golf to be played," said Gaus, who has been one of the premier players in St. Louis and the Gateway PGA Section for more than 15 years, and has competed in every PGA of America-sanctioned member championship and the PGA Championship. His only missing ticket is to the Senior PGA Championship, the most historic and prestigious event in senior golf.
Nakamura, who turned 50 in June, began play on the 10th hole and double-bogeyed the 18th when his drive landed in the water, and left his approach into a bunker and failed to get up and down. He also bogeyed the next hole, before making birdies on four of his final six holes.
"It's 72 holes, so I figure on this course you've got 15 and 18 are pretty tough holes and I butchered both of them," said Nakamura, a PGA teaching professional at Aviara Golf Academy in Carlsbad, Calif. "There are more birdies to be made. I figured that I could get it going. I didn't expect to birdie four of the final six holes, but I'll take it."
Defending Champion Hanefeld, who also won the 2008 Championship, waged a late-round rally, while Bill Israelson of Staples, Minn., and Mark Mielke of East Norwich, N.Y., were steady on the greens. The most decorated scorecard in the opening round belonged to Carl Cooper of Humble, Texas. He made eight birdies, three bogeys and a quadruple bogey on his way to a 70, just a stroke off the lead.
Rounding out those a stroke off the lead were Gary Robison of Canton, Ohio; Mike Miles of Huntington Beach, Calif.; Steve Parker of Houston, Texas; Mike Lawrence, of Anderson, S.C.; Eddie Terasa of Waukesha, Wis.; and Rod Nuckolls of Wichita, Kan.
Israelson improved by 10 strokes from his first round performance last year, needing only 24 putts at challenging Creighton Farms in nearby Aldie, Va.
Former Champion Bill Britton of Colts Neck, N.J., led a 14-player group at 71, that included two-time Senior PGA Professional Player of the Year Sonny Skinner of Sylvester, Ga., John Carney of Hoover, Ala., Frank Dobbs of Port St. Lucie, Fla., and Quinn Griffing of Fort Wayne, Ind.
Hanefeld, 58, overcame three consecutive bogeys with three birdies in his final eight holes on the 6,725-yard River Creek Club. With the bulk of its layout sheltered from the wind by housing developments, players are able to attack before facing a demanding quartet of holes adjoining the Potomac River.
"It's a good golf course, the conditions are good; the layout is good and the course setup is good," said Hanefeld, a PGA Life Member. "I hit it close today and missed a bunch of putts. I started out well, then lost it a bit in the middle of the round, and brought it back near the end." Beginning on the 10th hole, Hanefeld birdied the 12th and 16th holes, before he ran into problems with three consecutive bogeys. He picked his round back up with a birdie at the 356-yard second hole and added birdies at 4 and 8 to close his round.
"I played much better than 70," Hanefeld said. "It's a long week, and you have got to be patient. You not going to win or lose a tournament in one round. I'll hang in there, and hopefully, I'll play well the next three days.
Mielke, who turned 50 in July, made two birdies each on both sides of River Creek Club, and had a pair of bogeys.
"We definitely got the best of the draw," said Mielke, PGA head professional at Mill River Club in Oyster Bay, N.Y. "We played 12 holes with very little wind at all, and then it got a little warmer near the end of the round. I was just holding on the last couple holes."
Israelson collected five birdies to offset a pair of bogeys, atoning for a dismal effort last year at Creighton Farms (80 and 73).
"I played much better at River Creek [Club]," said Israelson, a PGA head professional at Vintage Golf Club in Staples, Minn. "This course just doesn't really fit my eye." Israelson was 4 under par heading to the 17th at Creighton Farms, before finishing with a pair of bogeys.
"It was a matter of time before something was going to slip away, and it happened at 17 and 18," he said. "I had a three-putt on 17 and was lucky to get away with only a bogey at 18. After a round like today, I am pretty happy with a 70."
The day also featured a pair of aces, with Gary Sowinski of Schererville, Ind., and Jeff Whitfield of Weldon Spring, Mo., each making a hole-in-one at Creighton Farms.
Sowinski, the PGA director of golf at Briar Ridge Country Club in Schererville, Ind., used a 5-iron from 199 yards on the par-3 17th hole, while Whitfield, the PGA general manager at Mid-Rivers Golf Complex in Saint Peters, Mo., used a 4-iron from 195 yards on the par-3 ninth hole.
"It was absolutely pure luck," said Sowinski, who registered his sixth competitive ace. "The hole did not look very accessible and at first we couldn't tell if it had rolled off or went in the hole. But I took a look in the hole and there it was."
Whitfield, who finished in a tie for 29th in the 2011 edition of the Championship, made the ace on his final hole of the day.
"The ball hit right in front of the hole and hopped right in," said Whitfield, who posted his first ace in competition. "But we couldn't see it go in unfortunately. There were two guys on the back of the green who reacted pretty strongly so we knew something good had happened."
Sowinski had a 72, while Whitfield turned in a 76.
Begun in 1989, the Senior PGA Professional National Championship is modeled after the PGA Professional National Championship, with a field of 50-and-older senior PGA Professionals who advanced through 41 Section Championships conducted from July through September each year.
The top five finishers earn an exemption into the final stage of the 2012 Champions Tour National Finals. Since its debut, many participants in the Senior PGA Professional National Championship have used their success in the event as a springboard to a Champions Tour career.
First-round scores:
Bob Gaus, St. Louis, Mo. 34-35--69
Bruce Nakamura, Vista, Calif. 36-33--69
Kirk Hanefeld, Acton, Mass. 36-34--70
Bill Israelson, Staples, Minn. 35-35--70
Mark Mielke, East Norwich, N.Y. 36-34--70
Carl Cooper, Humble, Texas 33-37--70
Gary Robison, Canton, Ohio 31-39--70
Mike Miles, Huntington Beach, Calif. 36-34--70
Steve Parker, Houston, Texas 36-34--70
Mike Lawrence, Anderson, S.C. 35-35--70
Eddie Terasa, Waukesha, Wis. 35-35--70
Rod Nuckolls, Wichita, Kan. 33-37--70
Bill Britton, Colts Neck, N.J. 36-35--71
Sonny Skinner, Sylvester, Ga. 34-37--71
John Carney, Hoover, Ala. 36-35--71
Frank Dobbs, Port St. Lucie, Fla. 38-33--71
Quinn Griffing, Fort Wayne, Ind. 37-34--71
Ron Beurmann, Jackson, Mich. 34-37--71
Greg Farrow, Westampton, N.J. 34-37--71
Peter Oakley, Palm City, Fla. 37-34--71
Mitch Adams, Troy, N.C. 36-35--71
Lee Rinker, Jupiter, Fla. 37-34--71
Gary Groh, Highland Park, Ill. 37-34--71
Chris Starkjohann, Oceanside, Calif. 35-36--71
Joe Boros, Saxonburg, Pa. 34-37--71
James Blair, Ogden, Utah 37-34--71
Greg Baker, Boonton, N.J. 34-38--72
Robert Thompson, Huntsville, Texas 36-36--72
Paul Norris, Dallas, Texas 36-36--72
Jim Empey, Boise, Idaho 33-39--72
Rob Phelps, Fayetteville, N.Y. 34-38--72
Billy Rosinia, Indian Head Park, Ill. 35-37--72
Gary Sowinski, Schererville, Ind. 35-37--72
Mike San Filippo, Hobe Sound, Fla. 39-33--72
Charlie Bolling, Glen Cove, N.Y. 39-33--72
Freddy Gibson, Orlando, Fla. 39-33--72
Bud Lintelman, Purcellville, Va. 38-35--73
Mike Caporale, Manhasset, N.Y. 38-35--73
Cleve Coldwater, Clarks Summit, Pa. 34-39--73
Joe Butler, Burlington, Iowa 39-34--73
Tim Parun, San Diego, Calif. 38-35--73
Paul Trittler, Scottsdale, Ariz. 36-37--73
Pat Stephens, Richmond, Ky. 37-36--73
Bob Wolcott, Tunica Resorts, Miss. 38-35--73
Audie Johnson, Lebanon, Tenn. 33-40--73
Stuart Smith, Reno, Nev. 38-35--73
John Paesani, Mattapiosett, Mass. 35-38--73
Don Sweeting, Pinehurst, N.C. 36-38--74
Scott Spence, Galena, Ohio 36-38--74
David Young, Scarborough, N.Y. 37-37--74
Shawn McEntee, Petaluma, Calif. 34-40--74
Mark Faulkner, Marion, Ill. 36-38--74
Perry Holmes, Denver, Colo. 37-37--74
Steve Veriato, San Marcos, Texas 37-37--74
Fred Haney, Tigard, Ore. 38-36--74
Troy Schleicher, The Woodlands, Texas 41-33--74
Joey Carranza, Fall City, Wash. 39-35--74
Bill Loeffler, Littleton, Colo. 37-37--74
David Thore, Wilmington, N.C. 37-37--74
Jeff Coston, Blaine, Wash. 38-36--74
Roy Vucinich, Moon Township, Pa. 40-34--74
Ron Skayhan, Huntington Beach, Calif. 36-38--74
Rick Karbowski, Worcester, Mass. 36-38--74
Michael Mitchell, Rancho Mirage, Calif. 37-37--74
Gene Fieger, Naples, Fla. 38-36--74
Rick Morton, Jacksonville, N.C. 35-39--74
Jon Corliss, Virginia Beach, Va. 38-36--74
Dal Daily, Albuquerque, N.M. 35-39--74
Ralph Salito, Sherman, Conn. 35-39--74
Leigh Brannan, Canton, Miss. 39-36--75
Tom Sullivan, Sheffield, Mass. 38-37--75
Pat McTigue, Tulsa, Okla. 39-36--75
Craig Stevens, Dallas, Ga. 39-36--75
Jim White, Lincoln, Neb. 38-37--75
Bob Ford, Oakmont, Pa. 39-36--75
Darrell Kestner, Glen Cove, N.Y. 36-39--75
Don Allan, Cherry Hill, N.J. 41-34--75
Mike Smith, Titusville, Fla. 35-40--75
Bill Sautter, Ocean City, N.J. 38-37--75
Fran Marrello, Plymouth, Conn. 36-39--75
Tom Atchison, Stow, Ohio 37-38--75
Rea Schuessler, Gulf Shores, Ala. 39-36--75
Rob Wilkin, Lenexa, Kan. 38-37--75
Tommy Brannen, Augusta, Ga. 38-37--75
Rick Lewallen, Kannapolis, N.C. 40-35--75
Chris Tucker, Fort Mill, S.C. 38-37--75
Bobby Heins, Purchase, N.Y. 39-36--75
Bill King, Spring Lake, N.J. 39-36--75
James Kane, Edmond, Okla. 34-41--75
George Forster, Villanova, Pa. 39-36--75
Ed Sabo, Tequesta, Fla. 38-37--75
Jeff Thomsen, Boise, Idaho 38-37--75
Ken Martin, Wellington, Fla. 37-38--75
Robert Linville, Greensboro, N.C. 37-38--75
Chris Dachisen, Warren, N.J. 38-37--75
Bill Stines, Columbus, Ohio 37-38--75
Shawn Kelly, Auburn, Calif. 37-38--75
Bob Ackerman, W. Bloomfield, Mich. 39-36--75
Mark Houser, Kingsport, Tenn. 35-40--75
Mike Nokes, San Diego, Calif. 39-36--75
Philip Miranda, Austin, Texas 40-35--75
Brad Apple, Perrysburg, Ohio 38-37--75
David DeSantis, Salt Lake City, Utah 39-37--76
Denny Ford, Indianapolis, Ind. 39-37--76
Craig Campo, Alexandria, La. 40-36--76
Michael Cook, Sonora, Calif. 38-38--76
Steve Brady, Oakland Township, Mich. 40-36--76
Tim White, Midlothian, Va. 38-38--76
Ty Roush, Mason, W. Va. 36-40--76
Stu Nelson, Herriman, Utah 38-38--76
Dale Jones, Eagan, Minn. 36-40--76
Doug Rohrbaugh, Carbondale, Colo. 39-37--76
Tom Dolby, Berlin, Wis. 37-39--76
Glen Stubblefield, Valley Springs, Calif. 36-40--76
Tom Sutter, Mount Vernon, N.Y. 38-38--76
Dave Kendall, Saline, Mich. 39-37--76
Nash Haxel, St. Louis, Mo. 39-37--76
Mike Burke, Towaco, N.J. 37-39--76
Mark Sherman, Martinez, Calif. 39-37--76
Randy Erskine, Lake Orion, Mich. 35-41--76
Jeff Smith, Oskaloosa, Iowa 35-41--76
Rodney Blair, Hamburg, N.Y. 39-37--76
Perry Arthur, Plano, Texas 39-37--76
Jim Sobb, Barrington, Ill. 39-37--76
Barry Evans, Charleston, W. Va. 39-37--76
Jeff Whitfield, Weldon Spring, Mo. 39-37--76
Doug Perry, Fort Collins, Colo. 38-38--76
Billy Sitton, Houston, Texas 36-40--76
Mike Zinni, North Mankato, Minn. 39-38--77
Bill Mory, Haslett, Mich. 39-38--77
Rick Neal, Springfield, Mo. 38-39--77
John Nelson, Coral Springs, Fla. 40-37--77
Daniel Thore, Reidsville, N.C. 37-40--77
Ken Krieger, Cheyenne, Wyo. 37-40--77
Chuck Young, Duncanville, Texas 36-41--77
John Graham, Idaho Falls, Idaho 39-38--77
Tom Joyce, Huntington, N.Y. 39-38--77
William Dodd, Jr., Phoenix, Ariz. 37-40--77
Kim Dolan, Las Vegas, Nev. 39-38--77
Gary Knapp, Boca Raton, Fla. 36-41--77
Kevin Hayashi, Hilo, Hawaii 38-39--77
Tony Malatesta, Huntley, Ill. 36-41--77
Jerry Tucker, Stuart, Fla. 38-39--77
Jim Slattery, Clearwater, Fla. 38-39--77
Kris Moe, Santa Rosa, Calif. 40-37--77
Gary Trivisonno, Aurora, Ohio 39-38--77
Mike Antonio, Omaha, Neb. 40-37--77
John Calabria, Naples, Fla. 40-37--77
JC Anderson, O'Fallon, Mo. 43-34--77
Kim Thompson, Salt Lake City, Utah 38-39--77
Paul Parajeckas, Woburn, Mass. 39-38--77
Kevin DeNike, Davenport, Iowa 39-38--77
Bobby Hogan, Tonawanda, N.Y. 40-37--77
Mark Gardner, Spokane, Wash. 36-42--78
Bill Sakas, Northbrook, Ill. 40-38--78
Steve Bosdosh, Clarksburg, Md. 38-40--78
Ron Castillo, Lihue, Hawaii 40-38--78
Don Berry, Brooklyn Park, Minn. 40-38--78
Fred Holton, Phenix City, Ala. 39-39--78
Rob Horak, Fairport, N.Y. 41-37--78
Daniel Hornig, San Jacinto, Calif. 43-35--78
David Carich, Noblesville, Ind. 39-39--78
Bill Andrews, Greenland, N.H. 38-40--78
David Levine, O'Fallon, Mo. 40-38--78
Jeff Marsh, Vancouver, Wash. 39-39--78
Phil Taylor, Atlanta, Ga. 39-39--78
Ralph West, Surprise, Ariz. 39-39--78
Roger Gunn, Oak Park, Calif. 40-38--78
Steve Groves, Columbus, Ohio 40-38--78
Rodney Wilson, Burlingame, Calif. 40-38--78
Pete Busch, Kenilworth, N.J. 38-40--78
Donald Hurter, Castle Rock, Colo. 40-38--78
Jim Woodward, Edmond, Okla. 41-37--78
Willie Smith, Locust Grove, Ga. 37-41--78
Mick DeKorver, Grand Rapids, Mich. 38-40--78
Daniel Wilkins, Laconia, N.H. 42-36--78
Skip Tredway, Omaha, Neb. 37-41--78
Peter Serafimoff, New Smyrna Beach, Fla. 42-36--78
Eddie Mudd, Louisville, Ky. 37-41--78
Danny Elkins, Roswell, Ga. 39-39--78
Larry Mackin, Queen Creek, Ariz. 38-40--78
Ken Corliss, Columbus, Ohio 36-42--78
Scott Sommers, Frederick, Colo. 40-38--78
Michael Zaremba, Pueblo West, Colo. 40-39--79
Jay Taise, Waikoloa, Hawaii 40-39--79
Rob Gibbons, Molalla, Ore. 39-40--79
Butch Sheehan, Rancho Mirage, Calif. 41-38--79
Mark Ruthey, Port Byron, Ill. 40-39--79
Stu Ingraham, Newtown Square, Pa. 41-38--79
Steven Gotsche, Great Bend, Kan. 40-39--79
Carlton Blewett, Roswell, N.M. 39-40--79
Jim Pike, Sammamish, Wash. 40-39--79
John Kerins, Hermitage, Pa. 39-40--79
Lance Taketa, Hilo, Hawaii 40-39--79
Rick Cole, Eaton, Colo. 39-40--79
Randy Helton, Shelbyville, Tenn. 38-41--79
Chris Black, Lancaster, Ohio 44-35--79
Edward Whitman, Blairstown, N.J. 38-41--79
Ken McDonald, Houston, Texas 41-38--79
Wayne DeFrancesco, Columbia, Md. 38-41--79
Walt Chapman, Knoxville, Tenn. 36-43--79
Stanley Cooke, Homosassa, Fla. 38-41--79
Jim Karr, Palm Beach, Fla. 40-39--79
Gerry James, Ponte Vedra Beach, Fla. 43-36--79
Mark Kirk, East Aurora, N.Y. 39-40--79
John Lee, Naples, Fla. 41-39--80
Chuck Milne, Vancouver, Wash. 37-43--80
John Francisco, Westminster, Md. 39-41--80
Don Germer, Omaha, Neb. 41-39--80
Jim Gaugert, Lake Geneva, Wis. 42-38--80
Jim Cichra, Pittsburgh, Pa. 41-39--80
Bruce Zabriski, Rye, N.Y. 36-44--80
Bill Sellers, Orlando, Fla. 40-40--80
Kevin Muir, Birmingham, Mich. 44-36--80
John Bermel, Cedar Falls, Iowa 39-41--80
Russ Davis, Acworth, Ga. 41-39--80
John Aubrey, Butler, Pa. 39-41--80
Lee Houtteman, Glen Arbor, Mich. 41-39--80
Roger Mack, Marietta, Ga. 40-40--80
Dean Sumner, Callao, Va. 37-43--80
Thomas Herzan, Findlay, Ohio 43-38--81
Richard Prange, Mount Prospect, Ill. 40-41--81
Doug Bauman, N. Barrington, Ill. 39-42--81
Michael Brooks, Naples, Fla. 42-39--81
Mo Guttman, Sarasota, Fla. 41-40--81
Daniel Koesters, Las Cruces, N.M. 41-40--81
Mick Soli, San Carlos, Calif. 44-37--81
Dick Wagley, Winnetka, Ill. 38-43--81
Danny Loken, Fifty Lakes, Minn. 39-42--81
Kevin Syring, Demarest, N.J. 40-41--81
Frank Mellet, Voorheesville, N.Y. 43-38--81
Ronny Glanton, Richardson, Texas 40-41--81
Steve Munson, Greeneville, Tenn. 40-42--82
Don DeAngelis, Norristown, Pa. 41-41--82
John Schneider, Mount Pleasant, Wis. 45-37--82
Paul Jaycox, Cobleskill, N.Y. 41-41--82
Dennis Myrick, Glenshaw, Pa. 40-42--82
Michael Baker, Hermon, Maine 42-40--82
Mike Borich, Salt Lake City, Utah 40-43--83
Jimmy Hamilton, Knightdale, N.C. 42-41--83
Rick Bronson, Mexico, N.Y. 40-43--83
Mike Parrish, Madison, Ala. 41-42--83
Lawrence Auer, Mobile, Ala. 42-42--84
John Godwin, Pine Mountain, Ga. 42-42--84
Pat Delaney, Springfield, Ohio 37-47--84
Matt Vandelac, Hayward, Wis. 43-41--84
Mike Hamblin, Twin Falls, Idaho 38-46--84
Steve Cox, Hodgenville, Ky. 42-42--84
Doug Dunbar, Columbus, Neb. 42-42--84
Ted Perez, Westfield, Mass. 43-42--85
Bob Lendzion, Las Vegas, Nev. 42-43--85
David Nolan, Ray Township, Mich. 43-42--85
Scott Steger, Anderson, Ind. 42-43--85
Matt Stireman, Jackson Hole, Wyo. 41-45--86
Gavin Darbyshire, Venice, Fla. 41-45--86
Stephen Diemoz, Portsmouth, R.I. 47-39--86
Garry Nelson, Florence, Ky. 47-40--87
Russell Schreiber, Fayetteville, N.Y. 47-41--88
Jim Phenicie, Houston, Texas 47-41--88
Jeffrey Shaw, Seattle, Wash. 47-42--89
John Sikes, Frankston, Texas 44-46--90
Ray Lamb, Crawford, Texas 46-44--90
Rob Shuey, Mechanicsburg, Pa. NC
Dennis Winters, Bishopville, Md. DQ
Experts on the business and game of golf. The best coaching tips and latest golf news delivered straight to you. Sign Up to get the latest.


text:
Montreal Artist Photographs Unrelated Look-Alikes
We've personally never encountered a look-alike, but it would have to be pretty unsettling. Fortunately, the subjects of Montreal photographer Francois Brunelle's pictures don't seem to mind that much, as they were willing to have their picture taken with their (non-biological) twin.
Brunelle's been working on this series of photographs for over five years, and has found most of his subjects through word of mouth and the press his project receives. The similarities are striking. Here is a sampling of his work.

subset: commoncrawl


text:
Lawmakers are facing growing pressure from industry groups to fix glitches in the GOP tax law, reports The Hill, but it's unclear how or when those corrections will be rolled out.
The task is complicated by Democrats' interest in making substantial changes in the law as part of any technical corrections package, and the tricky politics of the effort are probably enough to put it "on hold until after the election," says lobbyist Sage Eastman.
Here are four of the glitches highlighted by The Hill:
- A provision containing a drafting error that requires retailers and restaurant owners to write off the costs of improvements over 39 years. Industry groups are pushing for immediate expensing of such costs.
- An unintended tax increase on some wineries due to changes in the treatment of tax credits for storage facilities.
- A change in the rules for charitable deductions that denies an increase in donation limits to those who make non-cash gifts.
- An error in the rules governing the deduction of sexual harassment settlements involving nondisclosure agreements.


text:
>> Back to Chocolate & Zucchini <<
Log in to check your private messages
Last posts feed
Log in
Eating out in Adelaide, South Australia
Goto page
Chocolate & Zucchini Forum Index
Around the world on a zucchini
View previous topic
View next topic
Joined: 18 Oct 2004
Posts: 1654
Location: Within view of Elliot Bay, The Olympics and every ship in the Sound
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:01 pm
Post subject:
mel p
I totally agree with you, about the dumbing down of export products. I will hold off on ascending my soap box and just say that I have met many Australians none of whom looked or acted like Crocodile Dundee. Do they really have one named "kangaroo paddock"?
"It's watery....and yet there's a smack of ham."
"It's hot ham water."
Back to top
Joined: 13 Nov 2004
Posts: 899
Location: Gold Coast Australia
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:12 am
Post subject:
I once heard of a swimwear manufacturer who made swimsuits under two different labels and marketed one in the top retail outlets and the other in the bargain stores. Same swimsuit different prices. Well some wineries do the same, especially for supermarkets. I never buy my wine in supermarkets, but hey , I won't get on my soapbox on that subject.
Back to top
mel p
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Posts: 10
Location: hamburg, germany
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:35 pm
Post subject:
I hope not! I have seen plenty plenty naff names though. Just couldn't think of one off the top of my head. I'm interested in what reach what wines have, but find it hard to pony up lots of money when I know what that wine would cost in Aus.
So I don't buy Australian wine over here, but am learning all about European ones, as that is where I am. Our household has a very knowledgeable and enthusiastic wine merchant whom we visit often. After all, what supermarket offers tastings?
Back to top
Joined: 30 Sep 2004
Posts: 1855
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:23 pm
Post subject:
Prior to moving to Australia in 1973 my wine tastes ran to Kelowna Berry Cup, Wild Duck and Manishewicz (sp?) But my boss in Melbourne was a real wine drinker and he got me quite enthused about "real" wine and I have a fond spot in my heart for Aussie wines to this day. We get a decent selection here although they can be a bit pricey. If I had to choose a favourite it would probably be the Wolf Blass line.
Vivant Linguae Mortuae!!
Back to top
Joined: 18 Oct 2004
Posts: 1654
Location: Within view of Elliot Bay, The Olympics and every ship in the Sound
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:21 pm
Post subject:
I have a hard time spending a lot for west coast wine living on the east coast. The prices are so much higher and there aren't any import taxes!
"It's watery....and yet there's a smack of ham."
"It's hot ham water."
Back to top
Joined: 25 Feb 2006
Posts: 81
Location: Cedar Creek, Qld, Australia
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:20 am
Post subject:
Erin wrote:
Can you recommend any of these Australian wines to me? We have been partial to Penfolds and a few others that escape me now. I have a pretty good idea about the wine culture down there from reading, it's just the tasting experience that is a little lacking.
I couldn't not reply to this post
We used to live 30 mins drive from the Barossa in South Australia, and did frequent "winery runs".
My personal favourites are:
Jenke - Cabernet Sauvignon - Must be accompanied by a thick medium rare steak for the full benefit.
Jenke - Shiraz - A good drinking wine, full bodied, spicy.
Bethany - Late Harvest Reisling - A deliciously sweet white that goes oh so well with spicy Asian foods.
Elderton - Riverina Botrytis Semillon - a dessert wine, rich golden colour, quite sweet, undertones of treacle, apricot and figs.
Grant Burge - Frontignac - Another sweet white. The 2000 - 2003 vintages were the best, the last one I tried (2005) wasn't quite up to the same standard.
There are various others I'm quite happy to drink, but this is my pick of the Barossa. (and unfortunately you're unlikely to find them outside of South Australia).
Back to top
Joined: 26 Jun 2006
Posts: 184
Location: London, UK
Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:36 am
Post subject:
I think as wine goes it all depends on your taste and price-range. I really like Annies Lane which is a Clare valley wine- they have a good riesling and their Old vine shiraz is to die for, I bought a bottle at the cellar door in 2001 from their 1998 vintage, not sure if they still make it though. Their copper trail shiraz is also supposed to be very good (I can't afford it myself- $70 a bottle is a bit steep I find!) I grew up very near the Barossa and went to school there so I am a bit biased when it comes to their wines. Elderton's reds and Turkey Flat Rose are very nice Rockfords is also very good but also very pricey. D'Arenberg is nice - they are in McClaren Vale South of Adelaide- I like their Footbolt Shiraz and High Tree Cab Sav they also do some cheaper ones which are reasonable. I quite like Hewitson as well- not sure where they are from (I think Barossa). My relatives from the UK always stock up when they come over here because they can't get a lot of the rarer wines there and, as Erin pointed out, a lot of the wineries have different labels for exporting.
Back to top
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Posts: 1196
Location: buried under a pile of books somewhere in Adelaide, South Australia
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:30 pm
Post subject:
Just thought I'd revisit this topic 'cos friends of mine got a great review for their restaurant, Bistro Dom, in the Weekend Australian last weekend ..
I love their restaurant - you might think about visiting it when you're here in January, Barbara, although they're only open Mon-Fri during the day. Oh, and they have just started doing dinner on Friday nights too.
Doing what you like is freedom
Liking what you do is happiness
Back to top
Joined: 13 Nov 2004
Posts: 899
Location: Gold Coast Australia
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:34 am
Post subject:
Jude I saw that in the paper on the weekend and had decided to make a booking as it sounds delightful. Thanks.
Back to top
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Posts: 1196
Location: buried under a pile of books somewhere in Adelaide, South Australia
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:35 pm
Post subject:
The November issue of Delicious has a little booklet with Cafe Recipes from favourite cafes all over Australia. Ben and Dominika who run Bistro Dom have scored well in the SA section - there's a recipe from Bistro Dom, and one from Duthy St Deli, which they started and then sold to the current owners.
Doing what you like is freedom
Liking what you do is happiness
Back to top
Display posts from previous:
All Posts
1 Day
7 Days
2 Weeks
1 Month
3 Months
6 Months
1 Year
Oldest First
Newest First
Chocolate & Zucchini Forum Index
Around the world on a zucchini
All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Goto page
Jump to:
Select a forum
Chocolate & Zucchini
C&Z Guidelines and Announcements
Suggestion box
Cooking & Eating
The Chocolate & Zucchini Cookbook
Recipe Box
Restaurants & Travel
Paris & France
Around the world on a zucchini
Other things
Other things
post new topics in this forum
reply to topics in this forum
edit your posts in this forum
delete your posts in this forum
vote in polls in this forum
Powered by
© 2001, 2005 phpBB Group


text:
His artwork, projects and exhibitions have been written about by various national and international art and news publications to include: The New York Times, Art Newspaper, The Washington Post, Art in America, and Art Net.
Wells is currently a curator at large and Cinema-Scope director for Scope Art Fairs http://www.scope-art.com. In January 2006, he co-founded the video art community research portal and traveling installation [PAM] http://PerpetualArtMachine.com, with the artists Raphaele Shirley, Chris Borkowski and Aaron Miller.
Wells has been participating on the Rhizome since 1998.


text:
Archived and Closed
This conversation is no longer open for comments or replies and is no longer visible to community members. The community moderator provided the following reason for archiving: Thread worn out
I read on this site hundreds of people have the same problem..they have a monopoly and they will not share how they manage data. I say we group together and get the FCC and our states AG's involved. If they, Exceed won't help us and stop this, maybe they'll answer to the regulators and we can find out what is going on?
So how did I use 3GB of data in 24 hours when we have NEVER EVER downloaded a movie...EVER IN THE 2 YEARS OF HAVING THIS CRAPPY SERVICE,
watched a movie and all we do is surf news sites...
I have all my Google surfing data stored and saved for the last 7 years and there is no change in ourhabits....just how you charge us.
You call them and they have the same canned response about movies, YouTube, etc......then they blame HTML, Flash, etc....BUT watch their propaganda and you'd think you can do anything/everything...you can if you're RICH! It's blatant false advertising!
Then on Friday we had over 3GB left on our account and we used it all and
you can see we were not even on the internet hardly at all.
I have called and written about this since last February when you deleted
our upload/download usage. Interesting that when they deleted those meters, my usage doubled/tripled and quadrupled...some months I paid over $400/mth for the same habits!
It is my NOW DEFINED position that you may be committing a consumer fraud.
I monitor your comments and see virtually everyone is having the same
If you haven tried them yet, both AdBlock plus and Flashblock can drastically reduce usage.
I've even got one site that I frequent that auto refreshes itself every 3 minutes to the tune of 2MB or about 40 MB per hour if I leave it open in my browser - needless to say it hurts when I do that, so I don't, peruse it quickly, nothing to see there, move along.
Blocked ads:0 on this page
53170 in total
If you go to their basic site and put in your internet habits: Frequent web browsing, watching videos, playing games, they say the solution is their 15GB plan......That's a blatant LIE....To do that, you'd spend upwards of $400/$600/mth
My Sat modem is unhooked and has been for 4 months and this month it shows I used 3 gigs of data
If you scream and cuss, your response from the Exede representative will reflect that.
Fully explaining your problem to the tech/ rep will help them provide a better more positive answer to your issue.
I see you are stressed and simple answers might not provide the help you are seeking. Might I suggest, get away from the computer, take a walk, go to the Library.
Once you are relaxed, write out your problem, take your time, and read it back to yourself. Make sure you get the details you wish to express lined out. Then send the email to Exede. I think you will do better writing the issues out, compared to talking to a tech on the phone.
Take it EASY, Me. Life is fleeting, enjoy it, along with the conflicts.
You people who recommend being patient and understanding is the correct way to approach this....BUT there needs to be a resolution from Excede....and there is not one, so understandably, when peoples money is taken and used under false, misleading and what I believe fraudulent terms, promises and expectations, I understand people getting totally frustrated and pissed off!
Me the customer, started her issue on this other forum post: You should read it first.
She then hopped to this one, "which really needs an index as it has lost it's direction", and continued to be upset about the service she received.
She seemed really upset and under duress, so I tried to offer help.
My suggestion to her was; relax and get away from the issue for a time. Then, write down all the issues one by one and present that to the Exede help people.
If you hit the Exede help people or the forum rep's with a rant of unknown or unrelated problems caused by someone else not under their control. What help do you expect to receive.
Calling them ripoffs, lairs, and cheaters. Is not the best way to get help. The boys that own the company are not the ones answering the phones.
If you have a problem, state it, explain some of the details your seeing on your end, then wait for a reply and you will likely get your issue's settled.
And, by the way, give me a break and the other very few forum members who offer nothing but their time and help to anyone that ask.
We are not employees of Exede, we are not paid, our total reward is to maybe resolve someones problems. We have had our own problems in the past and know the pain it can cause. That is way we help.
And as to the "peace, love & woodstock". Woodstock was in 1969 if memory serves me right, I wish had been there. But, I was on an all expenses paid vacation to a Southern Asian continent.
The data sucked!!!
Me the customer, I have responded on one of your other posts and hope to hear from you. Please send a screenshot of the texts in question with your email. This person will be dealt with accordingly. Thanks for posting.
I can understand your concerns about your data usage. I am willing to go over your usage categories with you so that we can pinpoint where your data is being consumed. Visiting sites like Amazon, Ebay, and other shopping networks can consume your data. Please send me an email to firstname.lastname@example.com with your account and contact information.
Satellites are expensive to launch and maintain, much more so than maintaining fiber or cables. I have no other choice, other than dial up, which is no good at all anymore. I am grateful that there are satellite providers, and I am very satisfied with my Exede Classic 10 GB plan. I do not want to live in the crowded city, I do enjoy my country home. For that, we have to make some sacrifices. Everyone does have choices to make. Would I like higher data allotments? You bet. Technology may bring that to me in the future.
Except for this moment, I had disconnected the Ethernet cable to my router, yet the data transfer/receipt continues to tick up on the modem stats.
Since this modem does not have WiFi I would be interested to know what is being transferred and where it is going.
On the modem itself, the network, RX and TX lights are just flittering away.
Again, I had to reconnect the cable so I could come to the forum, but it doesn't matter.
I disconnected it after turning off all equipment that use internet connections.
According to my traffic monitor, in the last hour 794.87 MB has gone through the modem.
How is this possible. When last we spoke, Kimberly said all was fine with my connection.
Also there is now a 23% sync count loss.
Would be interested to know what is going on.
This traffic includes alot of handshaking that goes on between the LAN and your modem. Even with the coax cable unplugged this traffic still occurs. In addition that page (as well as the others embedded in the modem) are displayed in your browser, which is constantly polling the modem via the java script contained in that page - that too generates traffic included in the Ethernet Interface Statistics. They also include your internet traffic or more specifically your wide area network (WAN) traffic - that which travels along the coax cable plugged into the back of your modem.
Most of those modem statistics are only useful in diagnosing issues between your modem and LAN. The packet losses and the rest more than likely are the result of disconnecting the coax cable as your device(s) continuously attempt to establish communication with the outside world. The percentage would be high depending upon the last power cycle since they reset to zero during that event.
What's important from a usage perspective is the WAN interface statistics that aren't available to us mere mortals. Comparing LAN vs WAN statistics is akin to comparing apples and oranges. I do know with 99.99% certainty that those WAN statistics are available from the modem and are maintained in persistent memory even when the modem is powered off (otherwise we could simply reset our usage by simply powering off). The WAN statistics are used in calculating your usage.
The only other observation that I can make is that my routers statistics are consistent with both the modem and the usage meter. My routers total LAN statistics match those of the modem. My router's WAN statistics match those of the usage meter. In both case's within an expected margin of error largely attributable to what Exede considers a gigabyte and what my router considers a gigabyte when coupled with rounding errors that naturally occur - Exede's interpretation of a gigabyte (GB) is actually more accurate in terms of data usages while my router's interpretation is more appropriate to those of us who think in terms of powers of two and know that there are exactly '10' answers to yes/no questions. Many routers actually measure in terms of gibibytes (Gib) despite labeling them as GB.
Hopefully at some time, Viasat will update the modem firmware to display the WAN statistics which are more useful in determining actual usage than the LAN statistics which undoubtedly are a source of confusion for many.
My only advice to all new to satellite internet is forget what you know about traditional land-based internet service; learn the limitations of satellite internet and the basics of how it works. If you do you'll likely be content with it and learn to embrace the inherent suck of satellite internet. Barring that you'll likely continue to be unhappy, particularly those who had more viable options - who for all intents and purposes chose poorly.
Those of us having no other options, learn to live with it while pushing it to its limits.
None of this is meant to imply that there are no problems, there are. But many are self inflicted and self correctable. Others are software, hardware or infrastructure related and can be corrected, typically not correctable by us. Some cannot be corrected due to simple laws of physics and fixed capacities of a bird flying some 22000 plus miles above the equator - but eventually even those can be improved with a bigger bird. Even then you're still going to have to deal with that tricky speed of light issue. Once that's solved we won't be needing the internet and your iPhone will be able to beam you to wherever you'd like to go in either the past or future but you'll probably need a bigger data plan.
Well, Thank you. That was some novella there. lol. Lots of good information, however; When I went to bed last night, I disabled all internet devices to insure no traffic between any of the devices, router or modem.
When I went to bed at 11:30 the modem stats showed a Received Data at 7,345,687,343 and at the current time it is at 8,638,795,003. I renabled all devices only 15 minutes ago.
So what you are saying is this modem, no matter what; is receiving over ONE GIG of traffic just to click off data usage against my account.
Not to mention there is also a large gap in the amount of SENT data from last night till this morning.
NOT ACCEPTABLE in any world.
I guess everyone at Exede is off for Thanksgiving, and will continue to go on for the next few days without official help from them.
That is only one issue. The loss in internet usage, inability to watch any of my shows because the actual transfer rate drops to, as low as; .03mbps. There was a time when I attempted to watch a news clip on CNBC that was less than 200k and it buffered 4 times. Do you know how long a 200k video clip is? Not long, and no reason there should be any buffering.
Well, I do appreciate your help, however; we could sit and talk about the problems till the cows come home and that will not resolve that lack of service, the poor quality of late and the amount of data transfer my account is being charged for.
Granted, I do use a bit, however; I am not using over 1 gig of traffic while I am asleep and all internet devices disabled.
Thank you again.
That's the 140 character or less bumper sticker version.
Those statistics prove nothing - the usage meter is what's questionable and until we're provided access to what's going in and out the WAN port questions regarding usage will always remain.
I'm as critical of Exede as anyone when it comes to perceptions regarding sloppy installations, poor phone support, and what is most assuredly a lame usage meter implementation that amounts to nothing more than idiot lights on the dashboard - not all have a full tachometer, or more precise oil pressure gauge at their disposal and some prefer automatic transmissions anyway.
You'll find email exchanges with the moderators here more productive. Lacking that you best bet is a good working relationship with an installer knowing what he/she is doing. It's more complicated than simply coming out after an earthquake, rotating the dish until the appropriate beeps occur to ensure alignment but if I were an installer I might have checked the integrity of the connections, integrity of the cable and any number of other things. But, I wasn't there and don't know what was done. One thing is certain offering more GB solves nothing.
Looking at my Exede account...last night it reflected 58gig usage, this morning before I started doing anything else, I checked and it was 63.1 gig.
The RX and TX lights flicker all night long with all attached devices either disabled or disconnected!!
If you're unplugging the router also, your best bet is up above.
My router is a Linksys WRT54GL with the most recent firmware.
Last night I disabled and disconnected all equipment, including the router. The modem was connected to nothing but the dish.
RX and TX flashed all night. Because of where it is, I had to put something in front of it because the flashing was so annoying, it woke me up. lol
Even now, I am using my laptop and the RX/TX are going nuts. I am looking at the router and computer stats in conjunction. Both show no traffic with exception to the occasional handshaking.
I have told Exede those lights were constantly flickering since it was installed without any response.
If I continue to get a 5 gig usage that will result in another 85 gig before the reset with a total of approximately 154 GIG for the month.
I am sure they will eventually send a tech, or resolve this somehow. If not, I will just start unplugging the modem when not in use.
Also, I have verified this is not a new modem. It is a refurbished model. I would, for the price I pay; like a new, unused modem.
That's what I keep seeing in these posts....Can't do that, Don't do this or that, and you won't be able to do......
If I ran a company and my employees subscribed or used those 3 words as an excuse for not getting their work done......I'd fire them!
FWIW , the installers aren't Viasat employees - there are many good ones, and an increasing number of bad ones or so it seems from anecdotes here. You want to ensure you get a good one rather than rolling the dice with the first available in the pool.
How does one go about getting a good installer/tech?
I will search, but was it you that said something about whether the tech knew a specific troubleshooting software/test, etc...?
Those having the Elite Dealer badge (if any appear) are generally safe bets since they've been awarded that based on their track records.
Those familiar with the eSVT tool may be even more knowledgeable:
Knowledge of the installation standards:
can be used to ask some probing questions (as well as eyeball how well your existing install meets those standards).
It does appear that some of the DirecTV installs have gone south based on reports here... but that's really dependent on the individual installer and familiarity with Exede and I;m sure some of the Elite Dealers do them all - all I know is I wouldn't let my DirecTV guy near my Exede dish, but would allow my Exede guy near my DirecTV dish except for the fact he's 80 mile away and it's too steep a price to pay to watch Dancing With the Stars.
If I am not mistaken the cable is CAT 5 (standard 18 AWG) and I couldn't tell you whether it is 3Ghz or not.
But how does this help? Won't Exede just put in a service request and I get sent whoever the dealer sends?
And a good installer will patiently ask your questions.
Just out of curiosity, what software version shows when you go to:
Thank you very much for your help.
Now, if Exede were to offer the same level of support. I hope.....
Again, I turned off, unplugged, disabled, disconnected everything from the modem....especially the ethernet cable.
For two hours I sat and watched the modem as the RX/TX just had a field day talking to the internet. If only I could have had my traffic monitor on at the same time.
Anyway. Knowing the usage was ticking up, I unplugged the power from the modem.
After just checking my data usage, it is at 84.9 gig. Yesterday, I used (monitored the usage) approximately 5.9gig.
Even with turning the modem off last night, it seem for every gig of bandwidth used, our Exede accounts reflect that amount times two. In other words, if you use 1 gig, the usage will be reflected as 2 gig.
I have come to the conclusion that if I am going to be charged twice the usage I am going to use it the same way.
My plan is the Freedom plan. They say it is unlimited, so I am going to use it as if there is no limit up to and until they stop double logging my real usage.
In my opinion exceed has the best customer service of any ISP I have ever used, and I've used a bunch over the years.
My fiance wants to launch his devices across our home because they constantly telling him that they are connecting and disconnecting from this gawd forsaking internet service. We've had the service just over a month, spent the first week unable to use the service because their transponder went out the day it was setup and they couldn't come out for a week to figure out the issue. Then every time a cloud passes we have long periods of no service, but at least hourly it disconnects and reconnects. Its so frustrating, I have a lot of patience and expected a little rougher service than I had become accustomed to in the city when we moved out to the country but AHHHHHHHHH!
Updates, downloading audio books, podcasts etc is all LNFZ only stuff with a rare exception when we have to make one due to life (work scheduled for very early, etc...)
I also have FLASH blocked, run adblocker and pop up blockers and, I don't spend hours on a social network site - if I do, I know it's eating my data and, I do it knowing I'll need to buy more before the month is out.
I don't do anything that you do, I surf news/information sites, emails and that's about it. I have Ad Blocker, all email images blocked, flash blocked, everything you do and more and guess what, I have used over 35GB THIS MONTH and I still have 10 days to go !!!!
AND the best part is, they have NO accountability to explain why I'm getting screwed here....OH, their new accusation/assumption is I'm a "shop-a-holic", or something, spending my days on Amazon and shopping sites.....ya, right! Nice try.....I will get to the bottom of this!
Attached to this is a screen shot on what they claim you can do with the 35GB plan....it's a blatant lie! (It will probably cost me a GB to upload it too)
It's also interesting that on any ill you get, cell phone, land line, etc....there are fees you pay that are supposed to help subsidize services in areas that have limited or no service....wonder where that money goes?
Another fallacy is when they respond" Exceed hears you and we'll investigate and get back to you in 72 hours". My complaint was filed 15 days ago and still NADA. I think it's because their "script" on blaming ME has no legs and they have a monopoly so I'm screwed
OK, sarcasm font off. Really, I've long known that this modem is a piece of poo, just from the way it performs--EVERY time there's an update for it, it takes HOURS to complete the process, and invariably the modem will become 'stuck in cycle' and just keep trying to boot up, over and over again, but never able to connect, and I have to unplug it and let it reset. Eventually, I just learned it was best to unplug it every night when I went to bed, and when I wasn't using the service during the day as well. [Disclaimer--this modem is actually my second one; the first one didn't work correctly within the first day of being installed, and couldn't even sucessfully download it's first firmware update--it just became catatonic, so Excede DID ship me a new one immediately, at NC, and credited me for my first month's service plus some additional time as well.]
I've had this service for two years, and until October 26 of this year, I haven't had a single issue or concern save for that initial bad modem. So it really disappoints me when I am suddenly told that I've blown through all 10 gigs of my plan with around 1 weeks left before my meter is rolled over for a new month, and I have done nothing differently as far as usage, equipment, etc., and have had no national disasters [earthquakes, floods, fire, frogs raining down from the sky, or other plagues of Biblical proportion], and when I inquire of it with tech support via telephone, they say,
"No, nothing wrong on our end, nothing wrong, you just used too much data on Media" when I know that is not possible since I don't HAVE any of that stuff. I'm practically a Luddite--my televisions can't connect to the web, they're all that old; I can't even receive my local television station's signal without one of those analog converter boxes, one for each TV in the house.
If there's an issue with the firmware of the modems, then perhaps Excede ought to send a mass email to us to advise its customers of this situation. I shouldn't have to search for a backdoor here on the Excede forum that will hook me up with one of their top techs/engineers so I can get the service I'm paying for, and have been blissfully happy with until October 26, 2014. I'm actually glad to finally read that SOMEONE'S "Case of the Gigabit Gobbling Gremlins" was, in fact, traced to malfunction of the leased equipment over which we, as customers, have little control over the how it functions, and even less information available as how it's SUPPOSED to function. It's reassuring that this circumstance may indeed eventually be resolved for all of us who have experienced these recent claims of usage overages.
Have a Happy Thanksgiving
NOT true, none of those are available in our area....also NO cell service and they know this, that's one of the reasons, I believe, they screw me and others in the same predicament!
B.S. on the movies and other stuff...sure you can do that BUT NOT on any plan without exceeding your usage and paying $300-$600/mth+
Why is a movie 4 gigs to stream, when you can download the same movie for 700mgb? Interesting, huh?
I do NOTHING but surf the web, news sites and emails....and I pay WAY OVER the 25GB plan....so what they claim I can do is NOT true and misleading and fraudulent intent! I have 7 years og search/web history on Google and no where will you see me streaming videos.
AND WHY IS IT for over 16 months, I NEVER exceeded my data allowance until they changed how you view it in January 2014, taking away the upload/download meters....that's when it all changed for me!
I'm not responding to them/anyone anymore, I have taken a different approach to how this will be addressed....stay tuned ;-)
Why is a movie 4 gigs to stream, when you can download the same movie for 700mgb? Interesting, huh?Not really, just some boring math.
Steve is talking apples while you are talking oranges.
You are most assuredly downloading a standard definition movie at .7GB or even lower quality, while Steve is downloading/streaming the same movie in HD format at 4+ GB (even though I know he really doesn't do that and I think it's probably closer to 4.6 GB, what's .6GB between friends) - 6 times the quality 6 times the size as a general rule of thumb.
You need to explicitly ensure you select the streaming quality that meets your budget (the default isn't necessarily SD quality or lower). Simple math: 6 movies in HD and you're at your 25GB, 6 movies in SD and you've got room to spare or choose the middle of the road quality at about 2+ GB.
Occasionally(i.e. rarely) , I'll take a bite of the forbidden apple but only during LNFZ or at the end of my monthly cycle when I've got excess to burn on the 10GB plan.
When marketing hype sounds too good to be true, it usually is. Read the terms of service - they're the only legal leg you have to stand on and paint a different picture.
I am curious though since you state you first observed this in January, yet it appears it's only been brought to a boil within the last several weeks. What attempts were made to resolve the issue in that 10 months? It could be as simple as a service call away from resolution despite misinterpretation of the marketing hype.
I'd also be interested in the source of your 700MB SD movie downloads if they are feature films - that might explain a lot too.
"Champions Respected and trusted members of the community appointed by the company to help provide expert advice to customers." [Emphasis in the center of sentence is mine]
Read into this what you will. I will only say that I now have a much clearer picture of the situation, and while donning tin-foil hats doesn't seem appropriate at this juncture, it might not hurt to get someone started on making a few just in case.
and determine the software version currently installed on the modem.
Mine is UT_22.214.171.124.0 and I believe that is the latest but could be wrong. An earlier poster suggested his/her issue was related to an update. Similarly some of the past usage spikes noted were related to some difficulties encountered in updating the modem's software.
Updates appear to be rolled out to each beam slowly (I received one some two months after others first noticed it).
Knowing your software version and beam, and posting it here may yield some pattern - but even then not much we can do about it, and it's likely too small of a smaple size to draw an definite conclusions, but what the heck?
To be clear, I'm only talking "unexplained" spikes those that you are certain are not self-inflicted.
Steve would you be using the service if you could buy nearly unlimited data for $100 per month or less like everyone in the cities that have more than 2 options? Of course you wouldn't. So what you're saying is that this is the best of the crappy options that we have ... The least of the evils.
It's absurd to suggest that they have 650,000 subscribers because it's GOOD. The fact of the matter is that when you have 2 options that are effectively the same, it may as well be a monopoly and they clearly operate as though it is.
My choices were a 5mb DSL via my telephone company or 20+mb with a satellite company.
After looking at Hughes and Exede I felt at the time Exede was the best choice for me. I still do. I am also confident Exede will rectify the problems I, and others are experiencing. It may not happen in the timeframe we want it, but they will fix them. I have hope.
When I purchased Excede I had no idea about this over the allotment issues so many people are complaining about in the emails above. All I was told was that everything will be much faster
Buyer beware and definitely my bad for not looking into this company in greater detail before I signed up. I just trusted the installer and it was Directtv who referred me to Excede so that I could bundle my package with them. That never happened by the way.
I know from reading all the horror stories about the allotment issues above that this is going to be a nightmare for me. I'm on a fixed income and there is no way I can afford to pay more. And no way do I want to start penny pinching my useage. Turn off my modem indeed!
Excede: why not just raise the useage allotments to something that is not insane (10GB per month) to 200 GB per month for the same amount of money? I think Comcast allocates 250 GB per month on their plans.
So now I have to deal with canceling my service with Excede. This will also be a nightmare I am sure. Everyone on my block has Comcast/Xfinity. I am going to go back to them. At least I know what I am buying with Comcast. Excede is a royal pain and I'm just too old to deal with this BS.
I refuse to limit my usage based on their unwritten law of 150 gig cap as long as the double dipping is being logged.
When a modem continues to receive (RX) and transfer (TX) even with the ethernet cable that attaches to my device(s) is disconnected, that, in and of itself should indicate a problem.
I am still confident Exede will rectify this problem for all of us.
From a business sense, they have to.
I, too, am on an extremely limited income, so I know exactly how you feel.
Please forgive me, however; this proves you are not very well informed.
I live in one those select areas, and there IS NOT GOOD COVERAGE BY "any" CABLE COMPANIES.
I suppose there could be a third in that there could even be areas where there is little to no interest in Internet access.
For example, if Viasat were to point one of those beams at Vietnam there would likely be little interest... Charlie don't surf!
On the other hand if I were to live in some of those green areas, I'd be better advised to spend my time elsewhere.
Thank you, Mother, for sending us outside to play because it's far too nice to stay in the house.
[Edit--Realized Lab Rescuer's 'green area' reference pertained to the areas where a satellite beam was under-subscribed, as shown on a map he/she linked to in another post, a map that the average subscriber would have no access to nor knowledge of save for her posting that link...which I repost here so others can look at it, too:
Doesn't change my point, however.]
The suggestions here are that Viasat should simply allow everyone to upgrade to the "virtually unlimited" Freedom plan out of some perceived sense of being fair. I think mostly everyone would jump on that given the opportunity. Others suggest that caps should be doubled across the board. Again most would likely jump on that also. However, none of us would enjoy the additional congestion rendering the service unusable by overloading the beams. Some of us including myself, remember the Wildblue experience.
The beam maps have been frequently linked to both here and elsewhere - Google or Bing are available requiring nothing more than a reasonably formulated search string. Similarly, this discussion (plan availability) has been beaten to death both here and elsewhere since August when the new plans and promos were introduced and there is nothing 'so now" about it.
What you do with your free time is of little concern to me, which is why I said if I were (not you were).
Similarly your appreciation for Francis Ford Copolla's sense of humor (or mine for that matter) is of no concern to me.
Relief will only come with the new satellite in 2016.
P.S. Complaints directed to the FCC regarding this specific matter will likely fall on deaf ears since the FCC does not regulate satellite providers (either internet or TV) other than some administrative concerns. As a matter of fact, Exede and Hughesnet, do the FCC a favor in making broadband (or near broadband) available to rural areas which is in the FCCs charter. Those complaints would be better leveled at land-based providers who do nothing to extend the reach to the last mile.
FFC's sense of humor was not in question, used in its place; here, it serves only to further mock other paying customers by throwing country of origin into a discussion about disappearing data, a subject which has led to a multitude of new threads being opened by stunned subscribers, and within each of those threads there is at least one snide reference made by the Defenders of Excede to conspiracy theorists--so yeah, I'm not surprised that you don't care if your attempt at humor was offensive.
As for the beam maps, silly me, I didn't think I had to dive deep into the inner workings of my internet provider's operations to ensure that my service would function precisely as contracted for--since I don't need to do so for my satellite television service, my landline telephone service, my electric service, my gas service, and yet all work well and as contracted for, with just the occasional problem as I would expect to occur with this service as well. So forgive me if I hadn't gone spelunking here in the Excede forums before I joined the ranks of people whose data has inexplicably gone out the door at double-speed to their usage over their years of service with never an overage. I was busy doing other things, too, before that happened.
Oddly enough, my television service provider is ViaSat as well, and yet I've never had them ascribe viewing of premium, added-charges programs to my account when I knew without question that I had not in fact viewed such programming, yet that is precisely what is happening when a historically <10GB/month user suddenly finds they are over their limit in less than a month and are told it was used up on "Media" such as Netflix or Hulu when they have never accessed those services or sites nor anything even similar to them. Can't help but wonder what is different about the operations of the two types of satellite service that prevents such things from happening in the first instance?
To save you from spelunking further, you'll also find that the lame attempt at a usage meter is one of my primary complaints and that Viasat does themselves no favors by not addressing that issue. Without a better usage meter, the average subscriber has no way to determine their usage and adjust accordingly. There are other complaints I have also, but probably not worth a deep dive. Nearly all of them predate this forum.
The primary difference between internet and tv satellite is that internet is bi-directional requiring both a receiver and transmitter. TV is one way.
P.S. It appears you are having a data usage issue from your posts (as I said difficult to follow with this particular forum format) but Steve Frederick has provided some solid advice. If you're certain that it's not one of those, but rather an unexplained usage issue (and there are some), the Exede moderators are your best bet or a reputable Exede installer.
As to internet versus television satellite services, admittedly the former is fully bi-directional, but the TV is somewhat selectably so as well, in so far as for me to use the premium pay services, I have to communicate my decision to access a program or channel to them via my remote and a telephone landline connected to my receiver.
Oh, and we are in agreement with regard to the FCC, and to the land-based internet service providers who drag their feet extending the service lines. There is one such company mere miles from my location, and they have received huge allotments of grant monies from USDA to expand service in Northeastern Michigan, yet over the course of 5 years, the only lines they've run are along the major paved roadways, where the commercial customers sit, while the majority of the residential customers are located on the far more numerous dirt or gravel secondary roads. A massive waste of taxpayer's monies that were meant to get the farm kids up here access so they could take classes from home and otherwise expand their spheres for their future, but those complaints fall on deaf ears, too. That's why I jumped on the offer from Excede two years ago like a duck on a june bug--until then, I was stuck with dial-up, and it was a banner day if I could connect at 50k, since most days the best I could do was 36k! That's why I still kept my dial-up account--because I want to keep the same email account I've had since 1999, so I pay a pittance for just that part of their service, because now that I've had satellite, I can't ever go back to dial-up.
FWIW, those of us who served during that conflict know the derivation of that term - Viet Cong ~ VC ~ Victor Charlie (in NATO phonetic alphabet) ~ shortened to 'Charlie" as a more general term to refer to enemy forces during that conflict.
There were and are certainly other terms that are used as slurs but that's not one of them, nor would I use them.
We are probably in more agreement than disagreement on Exede issues and some of us use humor to deal with the insanity of some suggestions made, albeit well-intentioned.
You've identified the difference between satellite internet vs. tv yourself - the transmit (from your perspective) is over your phone line - much more reliable but obviously slower with large amounts of data (used to be how DirecPC worked).
P.S. Dig deep into the way back stacks of another forum, you'll find where I described the old Wildblue modem as something from Fisher-Price - the power plug on mine had a tendency to work it's way loose and fall out under the burden of its own weight.
Last Spring Microsoft officially quit supporting XP so I switched to the Kubuntu operating system. I no longer need anti-virus software. I tweaked my Firefox browser to stop a lot of downloading. Now I have data to spare at the end of the month.
This modem IS the cause of the excessive data transfer.
I left it on the other night and my usage jumped for that night with all devices unplugged.
Turned the modem off and the following night. Well, what dya know. Low usage.
Exede must be aware these modems are causing problems, or else they would be a little more transparent and help us.
As I stated in the emails to you (that have not be addressed and replied to) all one has to do is read these posts to KNOW without doubt this is a widespread problem and cannot be dealt with on a case-by-case basis.
Your help is appreciated, but until Exede takes steps to rectify these problems, this forum topic will grow disproportionately larger.
WTF is Exede????
We have two supposed know-it-alls acting like customers; who are in all likelihood company feeds throwing their p-in-the-puddle. This only make mud without having anyone to stir it up.
The one that is lacking in this whole conversation is the one that should be yelling back the loudest.
Yelling back the loudest to let us know they are going to fix the problem.
Even Kimberly and the other so-called company representatives have stopped responding to this and many other threads of this same topic.
You two know it alls need to silence yourselves, because you; in my opinion are only serving Exede and in no way help anyone or any of us having these problems.
You serve only to confuse the matter more.
Be Silent!!
EXEDE needs to make OFFICIAL remarks and ACTION on the matters at hand.
I for one am electing to stop receiving notices on any remarks made anywhere on this community because it is obvious Exede refuses to acknowledge us as loyal PAYING customers that deserve and expect the services advertised, offered and charged for.
There was a day when it was said: You get what you pay for.
Whew.....were that true today we would all be happy campers.
As Inthesky has so eloquently put it, we know differently.
Yes, there may be some people with data usage that is actually being used by surfing habits, but that does not solve the main issue.
There is a problem with these modems.
Since I started unplugging my modem every night my usage has dropped significantly.
Before turning it off it was logging approximately 11 gig a day, Since December 3rd, my data usage is approximately 12 gig total. I used that much myself.
Never once have I used 11 GIG in one day!!.
If Exede will not acknowledge and correct the problem, then I say we should be receiving some type of compensation. Compensation either in the form of monetary refunds or in multiple months of major reduction in our monthly bills.
This problem is not going away by itself, and unless and until Exede corrects it, I implore everyone to keep posting.
Do so with proper respect, with truthful and accurate input and with the fervent desire to prove we are loyal customers in need of support.
As far as the Champions go. There is only one that has made comments on this thread that is, in my opinion; noteworthy and informative. The rest really do need to stay silent, as it is obvious they have limited knowledge and are talking way beyond their scope of understanding the true underlying issue here.
Thank you so much.
Exede. It is up to you.
LesT, I know it may look like a mass problem but I can assure you it is not. If your modem, or anyone other customers', are acting up we will act accordingly to resolve the problem. I will keep you posted as promised as to the resolution regarding your modem in particular. Thank you.
I assure you, that is not the case.
Kimberly. You speak to respect. These Champions are giving professional advise without the proper knowledge or authority. You and others at Exede really need to be the ones that give direction on technical issues. This leaving the members of the forum to learn, not teach.
Yes. I know some of these good folks do have more extensive knowledge than others, however; more times than not, they cast insults, ennuendo and downright nasty comments to people they are acting like they are helping.
Kimberly, I have used the exede mail form, I have replied to your emails and I have posted here trying to get your attention. All of which have been ignored.
Do not misunderstand my grammar or english. I am not being testy or rude. Just alerting you to the fact I have tried repeatedly to contact you, Exede or anyone there that would aid in rectifying this problem.
It is hard to imagine these problems are a case issue. Except for the fact that is all related to the modem.
Case # 00285248 regarding your Exede Account has been received. ref:_00D70K0Rw._50070t8mSd:ref
I responded and here is what I received:
email@example.com <firstname.lastname@example.com>to
date:Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 4:05 PMsubject:Case # 00285248 regarding your Exede Account ref:_00D70K0Rw._50070t8mSd:refBill Napier,
I apologize for not checking back in with you. I have not received any additional information at this. Your case is still open as you can respond through this email. I appreciate your patience.
Thank you for choosing ViaSat, provider of Exede and Wildblue internet services, as your internet provider. We appreciate your business.
That's it, I have over 23,441 emails archived and this is it.
I don't want to be contacted and lectured on all the stuff "I can't do", or assuming I stream movies, an/or shop to much....heard that way to much and I don't do any of that....I have 7 years of Google web history logged and it will show I don't do any of that....BUT based off my account of 25GB...still wondering if that's gigabits or gigabytes....., you say I should do that easily and within the limits.
This is what's stated on my account:
Our exede12 - 25 GB package is for people who want to do it all. You use your Exede Internet service for heavy web browsing, downloading music, and to connect with online entertainment services to watch your favorite movies and programming.
25.0GB per month
This can't be done...and the threads on this conversation consistently prove this statement to be untrue and misleading.
People want transparency...they want to know what/how/when/where they are using data, not a lecture on the Can't/Don't/Won't
You didn't email me, and no one has. I log all the email and comment in an email file folder and you are not there
They are consistent.
They are in denial.
They are going to continue to deny a problem exists no matter what.
Here is proof.
from Kimberly Exede
I received word back from our Corporate Engineering team regarding your modem/speeds. Your modem is working properly and is not registering any mysterious data. The data that is registering is being used per internet activity from the devices in your home. The agent asked that I relay to you to have a speed test done at speedtest.net and then to give our Technical Support team a call with your results.
Thank you for choosing ViaSat, provider of Exede and Wildblue internet services, as your internet provider. We appreciate your business.
Exede Kimberly
The modem is working properly? Then why do the RX/TX lights blink continually when there are no devices connected to it?
Speed tests? Really. What the hell do speed tests have to do with 10 or more gig of data transfers being logged on my usage when the damned modem is unplugged?
Do they really think we are so stupid as to accept that our phones and other devices are downloading data from Exede when the damned modem is unplugged?
ViaSat/Exede: This is a community forum for paying customers, so please do not interject your semantics into this post. I, for one do not want to hear anything more from you, unless it is a positive resolution to the problems.
Accurate and up-to-date usage meters.
.....and refunds!!!
Nothing more from you.....and not a word from the so-called Champions.
LesT, thank you for keeping us apprised of what's happening with your situation. As for me, I completed another month's usage as of Dec. 11th, and did so without going beyond my allotted 10GB of data. As I expected. As I've done every month since the company increased my account's limit from 7GB to that 10Gb--except for the month of October 2014, when I suddenly found myself a passenger in the same boat as so many other Excede subscribers as evidenced by the posts in this and two or three other threads on the subject of Ghost Data Users that have apparently invaded everyone's homes and devices. I have selected and installed a third-party usage application that is tracking my actual usage, as opposed to Excede's Fischer-Price BusyBox version, and I will simply continue to unplug my satellite modem every night when I retire for the night. But I am eager to see how your month-long experiment turns out, and whether you truly do have unlimited data usage with your plan. :)
This conversation is no longer open for comments or replies.
This conversation is no longer open for comments or replies.
Related Categories
Exede Internet-Classic
- 506 Conversations
- 999 Followers
- 522 Conversations
- 636 Followers
- 243 Conversations
- 306 Followers
Inflight Internet
- 103 Conversations
- 56 Followers


text:
Rorke's Drift (22-23 January 1879):
22 January 1879 - Zulu reserves sent to attack Rorke's Drift.
8 AM- Lt. Chard rides toward Isandlwana to check on orders, but is warned away by mounted sentries and sees a party of Zulus moving across the Plateau in the general direction of Rorke's Drift. Chard arrives at the Drift at noon; he tells Major Spalding there but no action is taken.
2 PM- Maj. Spalding leaves to speed up relief column being sent from Helpmekaar. Lt. Chard, left in command by Spalding, watches the Buffalo River and soon sees Isandlwana survivors crossing the river and hears distant rifle fire.
2:30 PM- Two lieutenants report the defeat at Isandlwana to Chard, then ride on to Helpmekaar after warning the men at Rorke's Drift.
3 PM- Chard assumes command at the mission station as a defensive wall is built with meelie bags, biscuit boxes, and two wagons.
3:30 PM- Men return from the Drift with a water cart and tools on orders from Chard, who returns with them.
4:30 PM- Chard orders six men to guard the hospital, readies reserve ammunition, and orders men to fix bayonets. A lookout is posted on the ridgepole of the mission store.
5 PM- As the Zulu approach, local defense forces and the native contingent depart, reducing Chard's command from 350 to 139 (30 of them sick in the hospital). Work continues on the improvised wall around the station.
5:30 PM- Initial Zulu attack is from the south; is beaten back by steady rifle fire. New attack comes from west of the hospital along the thinly held northern wall. Zulus armed with rifles commence sniping from nearby hill.
6 PM- Zulu attack continues- British defenders are forced to retire into the yard, weakening the defenses of the hospital.
6:20-7:15 PM- Zulus concentrate attack on hospital; some occupants are killed in their beds, other manage to flee through hole cut in hospital wall. Hospital is on fire, but light from the fire helps British defenders track the movements of the Zulus.
7 PM-Midnight- British fend off wave after wave of Zulu attackers.
23 January 1879- 4 AM- Zulus retire from the battleground.
8 AM- Rorke's Drift defenders are relieved by column under Lord Chelmsford.
Casualties at Rorke's Drift:
The British suffered 17 men killed (15 KIA and two mortally wounded) and 10 wounded at Rorke's Drift, of the 139 men present when the battle began (19% casualty rate). A majority of the 17 dead men were killed by rifle fire (only patients in or defenders in the hospital were stabbed to death with the Ikwa). 350 or so Zulu dead were found on the field at Rorke's Drift after the battle-- many wounded warriors were borne away from the battlefield by their fellow warriors (Zulu casualty rate was at least 25%). Eleven British soldiers were awarded the Victoria Cross for their actions at Rorke's Drift, the most awarded for a single military action in British history.
Clammer, David. The Zulu War. NY: St. Martin's Press, 1973.
Edgerton, Robert B. Like Lions They Fought: the Zulu War and the Last Black Empire in South Africa. NY: Free Press, 1988.
Glover, Michael. Rorke's Drift: a Victorian Epic. Hamden, CT: Archon Books, 1975.
Greaves, Adrian. Crossing the Buffalo: the Zulu War of 1879. London: Weidenfeld & Nicolson, 2005.
Knight, Ian. Great Zulu Battles 1838-1906. London: Arms & Armour, 1998.
Morris, Donald R. The Washing of the Spears: a History of the Rise of the Zulu Nation Under Shaka and Its Fall in the Zulu War of 1879. NY: Simon & Schuster, 1986.
Snook, Mike. Like Wolves on the Fold: the Defence of Rorke's Drift. London: Greenhill, 2006.
Taylor, Stephen. Shaka's Children: a History of the Zulu People. London: HarperCollins, 1995.


text:
|Ben Overon (talk)
|Date Created:
|11 6 2010
|Uber Noobish Idea Made By First-Timer.
|Please feel free to edit constructively!
Half-Elemental, Granital (Earth)Edit
Tough as nails, strong as mountains, and wise as mother earth, if a bit gruff and terribly slow.
These tough-as-nails people are known for their immense strength and wise council. They can sometimes be a bit headstrong and slow to change, but usually will cave to reason.
Physical DescriptionEdit
Granitals are heavily built, as well as being just plain heavy in general. They look like big dwarves caked in mud. Granitals are dark-skinned and have coarse, tightly-curled dirt-black hair, which is more often than not quite dirty. Flakes of dirt come right off their arms when rubbed or brushed.
Granitals get along quite well with dwarves, who share their lawful nature and love for the underground. Gnomes, halflings, half-orcs, elves, and other chaotic races are often seen as strange or unorthodox. Granitals usually don't trust many humans because they are not tied to any particular alignment. Granitals also get along well with Sandmen and other creatures bearing homage to the elemental plane of earth.
Granitals are almost always lawful. Their temperment is as stolid as stone, and as unchanging as the mountains. Like their human parents, they don't tend towards good or evil. Chaotic granitals are almost unheard of, though some may go insane and become chaotic if left in a place without land (such as the Elemental Plane of Air).
Being a half-breed, granitals have no lands of their own. They perfer to be underground, near large land forms or by landmarks that are associated with the earth.
Like their human parent, granitals have no particular affinity towards a particular deity at large, but may choose to worship any deity of the earth domain.
Granitals have inborn knowledge of the Language of the Earth, also known as Terran. They quickly learn Common as well, and often find that Dwarven simply rolls off their toungue.
Though granitals may begin life with a human name, they almost always end it with one in Terran, which usually sound like gutteral growls or the sound of one clearing one's throat. They may also choose a Dwarven name.
Male NamesEdit
Typical male granital names include but are not limited to: Huuach-Thoough, Jaahk, Shviip, and Kaachnuu.
Female NamesEdit
Typical female granital names are generally less harsh: Caauck, Snuugh, Shoog, Gauvin, and Haalu.
Family NamesEdit
Granitals usually have very strong family ties, and often make a point of researching the family history of both of their parents. This research can often influence alignment choices. Due to their tendancies to their elemental parent, granitals usually take their elemental family name and translate it into Common, making for a fair comprimise between their mixed heritage. Common family names are: Smoothstone, Glisteningearth, Godstone, Stumblerock, Tremourshock, and Earthquaker.
Racial TraitsEdit
- +2d10 HD.
- +4 natural armor due to their thick stone-like skin.
- +4 Strength, -6 Dexterity, +2 Constitution,+2 Wisdom, -2 Charisma: Granitals are strong, hardy and wise, but quite slow and gruff.
- SRD:Outsider|Outsider| (SRD:Earth|Earth| )
- SRD: Medium|Medium| : As medium-size creatures, granitals get no special bonuses or penalties due to size.
- A granital's base land speed is 30 feet. (|SRD:Burrow|burrow|): 20 ft.
- Spell-like abilities (Sp): At will: Wall of Stone, Stone Shape, Stone Tell. Twice per day: Spike Stones, Stoneskin. Once per day: Earthquake. Caster level equals the granital's HD +2.
- Automatic Languages: |SRD:Terran|Terran|, |SRD:Common|Common|
- Bonus Languages: |SRD:Draconic|Draconic|, |SRD:Dwarven|Dwarven|, |SRD:Ignan|Ignan|, |SRD:Aquan|Aquan|, |SRD:Auran|Auran|.
- Favored Class: Fighter
- Level Adjustment: +Level Adjustment::4
- Effective Character Level: Effective Character Level::6
Vital StatisticsEdit
|20 years
|Middle Age1
|Maximum Age
|350 years
|700 years
|1000 years
|+4d100 years
|Base Height
|Height Modifier
|Base Weight
|Weight Modifier
|5' 4"
|300 lb.
|× (1d10) lb.
|5' 0"
|250 lb.
|× (1d10) lb.
Back to Main Page → 3.5e Homebrew → Races


text:
Davo6 necesitaba un nuevo diseño de logotipo y lanzó un concurso de diseño en 99designs.
Un ganador ha sido elegido entre 33 diseños de 13 diseñadores freelance.
We run a storefront in Silverlake, CA selling high quality alcohol cases. We are expanding our product line into recyclable, durable cardboard carry cases for beer & wine. These will be sold exclusively online, and we will have a website running shortly for this line specifically named BoozeBin (http://www.BoozeBin.com). The logo will be printed on the side of these six-pack beer and wine cases.
Here is a quick snip from our website:
"BoozeBin offers durable, 100% recyclable cardboard carrying cases for beer & wine. We enable our customers to mix and match loose cans and bottles of alcohol to save them money. BoozeBins are perfect for last minute gifts, parties, picnics or simply taking a few bottles to a friend's place."
Our target audience is online users from 21 - 40 years of age. They are people looking to save money by using beer/wine they have laying around the house, by purchasing affordable cardboard carry cases from our website.
The original name was BoozeBox (a Box to put your booze in and take around). However, we changed the name to BoozeBin. By using the word 'Bin', we are thinking of a plastic, recycling container shaped bin. We do not want recycling icons/pictures anywhere on the logo; we are simply talking about the shape of a recycling bin (see files attached).
Do not use clip art.
The 'Bin' icon is going to be a crucial element of our brand that will be used everywhere. It should be the icon people remember when they think of BoozeBin. Make it catchy and interesting, but clean and bold!
It's crucial that the logo incorporate this exact spelling: "BoozeBin", and ".com" somewhere in the logo. The ".com" does not have to trail the logo or text immediately, but since this is only an online product/service, we want to be sure that if anybody sees our six-pack/wine cases sitting on a table...they will see the bold text and ".com" to visit our website.
Some things to think about:
1. We want it to be catchy and relaxed, but not cheap or childlike
2. Nothing too elegant - we do not want to come across as being a fancy wine distributor in Napa Valley. We want the locals/online users to feel like they can afford our cases and will save money.
3. The typeface should be clear, simple and bold. We want something that stands out. Again being careful not to be too fancy.
I have attached images of different 'Bins' so that you get an idea of the shape we are looking to use for the icon (it does NOT have to be blue, it can be an outline of a bin, or even solid black), and other logos that we like as an example. This is only to give you a feel for our taste and direction. The typeface/configuration and design of these images aren't necessarily what we are looking for. We would like for you to stay creative, and do something you honestly think would be simple and catchy when printed on the side of a recyclable cardboard six-pack carrying case.
Ideas for logo shapes: A circle with all the elements inside, a huge bin with all of the elements inside, a huge bin with the text trailing along the outside...be creative!
This logo will be used on our website, and will go to print for all of our physical boxes. For your reference, three photos are attached of the exact cases that will be used.
The files we will require are:
Print file format - .ai (CMYK)
Web file format - .jpg and layered .psd (RGB)
Descubre cómo funciona un concurso de diseño u obtén más información sobre nuestros servicios de diseño de logo.


text:
Doubled over
curled up
drained down to my secret nerves
I grope for
Just need to close this window
the wind must never see me
cuddle dust bunnies
Under the bed
I'm an old diary
the wind must never read me
(even rats are ashamed to be in your woodshed)
Doubled over
curled up
melted down to asymmetries
I grope for
If I were a fairy
would anyone steal my wings
Hold me steady
commonsense me
(what would the neighbors say)
The fortunate, the meek!
How fast they dream
If only they could tread – what's the word
(softly: like ghosts wearing slippers)
Softly is the word
No doors banging
no phones ringing
no laughter creeping in this cellar
where half a century is turning to sour grapes
(melancholy is a bad performance)
Kindly shut up
You know I love roses and wet grass
and even consider the lilies of the field as sisters
and that sometimes I hope deeper
for enchanted chariots
the truest sandalwood
a lake that lays shining in the afternoon
Then life comes back for a bite
And I
doubled over
curled up
drained and used and fucked up
Basilike Pappa lives in Greece. She likes her coffee black, her walls painted green and blue, her books old or new. She despises yellow curtains and red tape. She can't live without chocolate, flowers and her dog. Places she can be found are: kitchen, office, living room. If she's not at home, I don't know where she is. You can find Basilike up late with a notebook in the Silent Hour.


text:
South Swell Sports, Solana BeachDo you need to hire someone? Please list your job openings or opportunities here.
1 post • Page 1 of 1
South Swell Sports, Solana Beach
South Swell Sports is hiring a part time sales associate for their Solana Beach location. The candidate must be able to work 5 days a week including some weekends. Interested parties should contact Rob at 858-509-3719 or by email at email@example.com
Noah Fink
Head Men's Lacrosse Coach
University of Texas
Head Men's Lacrosse Coach
University of Texas
- nafink
- Water Boy
- Posts: 6
- Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:13 pm
- Location: Austin
South Swell Sports, Solana Beach
1 post • Page 1 of 1
Return to Employment Opportunities
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


text:
Madona (1967)
Woodcut on paper
height: 70cm
width: 50cm
Donated by Antonio Henrique Amaral 1995
O meu e o seu is an album of seven woodcuts by Antonio Henrique Amaral, a former student of Lívio Abramo's, thatwere first exhibited in 1967 when Brazil was under military dictatorship. They were launched as a book with an introduction by poet and critic Ferreira Gullar and are a reaction to this politically critical and emotionally charged period within Brazilian and world history. They satirize and denounce the physical and psychological violence that Amaral perceived as characterising the exercise of local and global power at that time. They also reflect on the position of the individual and the potential value or triviality of private concern and anxiety in the face of overwhelming events.
(Display caption from the exhibition Southern Press: Prints from Brazil, Paraguay and Chile, firstsite, 2011-2012)
Ian Dudley, 2011


text:
Make the most of your solar investment with a great feed-in tariff on our Solar Savers plan.
Plan info at agl.com.au/bpid
New regulations are changing how retailers offer electricity.
We're also doing our bit to make energy simpler. And more affordable.Learn more
Great rewards for AGL customers
AGL Rewards gives you deals from some of Australia's biggest brands.
Enjoy everyday discounts on movie tickets, groceries, restaurants and more.
Plus, collect flybuys points just by paying your home energy bill.
What makes AGL different?
We're proudly Australian
For over 180 years, we've been trusted by millions of homes and businesses with powering their everyday.
We give power to our people
Our employees support causes they're passionate about with our matched-giving and volunteering programs.
We're right behind renewables
We're the biggest ASX-listed investor in renewable energy, plus operate Australia's largest electricity generation portfolio.


text:
The crispness and rich colors capture the eye, makes me feel like I could actually reach up into the sky and grab it!
Harvest Moon
Published by deWriterMD
In the fall of 1999, I was ordained as a metaphysical minister in the Order of Melchizedek, ordained by Reverend Dan Chesbro and became a member of the Sanctuary of the Beloved (New York). I studied further under Reverend Brown at the United Metaphysical Churches of America in Roanoke, Virginia, which had its origins in the Spiritualist Movement. I am also a Master Teacher of Sekhem Seichim Reiki with over eleven years of experience practicing and teaching Reiki. I have also given messages and 'sermons' at Arlington Metaphysical Chapel (Virginia), where I led adult study classes on a variety of esoteric topics. My online group, One with Spirit Meta-Journal Forum, has been going strong since early 2002. I'm also known for my Psychic Portraits, art from beyond the physical. View all posts by deWriterMD


text:
Register and save time!
Register with us for future convenience:
- Fast and easy check out
- Easy access to your order history and status
Filter by:Clear All
The Azure Table ODBC Driver is a powerful tool that allows you to connect with live Azure Table data, directly from any applications that support ODBC connectivity.
Access Azure Table Storage like you would a database - read, write, and update data through a standard ODBC Driver interface.
Powerful SSIS Source & Destination Components that allows you to easily connect SQL Server with live Azure Table Storage data through SSIS Workflows.
Use the Azure Table Data Flow Components to synchronize with Azure Table cloud storage data. Perfect for data synchronization, local back-ups, workflow automation, and more!
The Azure Table Excel Add-In is a powerful tool that allows you to connect with live Azure Table Storage, directly from Microsoft Excel. Use Excel to read, write, and update Azure Table Storage data. Perfect for mass imports / exports / updates, data cleansing & de-duplication, Excel based data analysis, and more!


text:
The Dirty Gerund Poetry Series Open poetry reading, 9 p.m. Ralph�s Chadwick Square Diner, 148 Grove St., Worcester.
Class �Grief then Gratitude,� led by Stephen Jenkinson. Grief and the love of life are twins, natural human skills that can be learned, 7 p.m. Nov. 19. $25. Holy Name Central Catholic Junior Senior High School Auditorium, 144 Granite St., Worcester. (508) 951-3850.
Yoga Session Hatha style class for all levels. 12:30-1:30 p.m. Nov. 19. Free. Denise Welsh, 97 Webster St., Worcester. (508) 617-7777.
Auditions Theatre with a Twist auditions for �Noises Off,� 7-9 p.m. Nov. 19. $50 fee. 278 Great Road, Acton. (978) 302-0985 or www.theatrewithatwist.org.
Senior Events Coffee, 9 a.m.; cards, 9:15 a.m.; Tri-Valley lunch, 11:45 a.m. and bingo, 1 p.m. Mondays. Senior Center, 29 Forest St., North Brookfield. (508) 867-0220.
Teen Book Club 6 p.m. Nov. 19. Haston Free Public Library, 161 North Main St., North Brookfield.
Bingo 6:30 p.m. first and third Monday of the month. Lodge of Elks, 128 School St., Clinton. (978) 365-2822.
Overdrive Training Cynthia Laino will answer questions about downloading Overdrive electronic books. 6-7:30 p.m. Nov. 19. Registration required. Pearle L. Crawford Memorial Library, 40 Schofield Ave., Dudley. (508) 949-8021.
Teen Chess Night 6:30 p.m. Nov. 19. Pearl L. Crawford Memorial Library, 40 Schofeld Ave., Dudley. (508) 949-8021.
Zumba Fitness 5:30-6:30 p.m. Nov. 19. $10 drop-in fee. Simonds-Hurd Complementary Care Center, HealthAlliance Hospital � Burbank Campus, 275 Nichols Road, Fitchburg. (978) 665-5800.
Mount Wachusett Community College Smart Start Registration to streamline the enrollment process in preparation for upcoming spring semester. Noon, Nov. 19, 26, 28, Dec. 10, and Dec. 14. 444 Green St., Gardner. (978) 630-9110, or firstname.lastname@example.com
Fitchburg Table Tennis Club 6:30-10 p.m. Mondays. Veterans Center, 100 West St., Leominster. (978) 342-9901 or www.fitchburgttc.com.
American Heartsaver First Aid Course 9:30 a.m.-12:30 p.m. Nov. 19. Always On Call Health Services, 285 Central St., Suite 214, Leominster. Registration required. (978) 537-9900, ext. 114.
Computer Clinic 6:30-8 p.m. Nov. 19. Bring your laptop if you have one. Lunenburg Public Library, 1023 Massachusetts Ave., Lunenburg. (978) 582-4140.
Skills and Thrills Demonstration Gymnastics, karate, cheerleading, dance and birthday parties featured. 6:30 p.m. Nov. 19 Lunenburg Public Library, 1023 Massachusetts Avenue, Lunenburg. (978) 582-4535.
Seminar �OTC � Traveling Health Fair,� by Massachusetts College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences, Will answer questions that lie in the aisles of your local drugstore, 11 a.m. Nov. 19. Free. Giveaways. Council on Aging, 1 River St., Millbury. (508) 865-9247.
Exercise Class Low impact, 10 a.m. Nov. 19. Council on Aging, 1 River St., Millbury. (508) 865-9247.
Grade 1 and 2 Book Club Participants should choose a book from the SERIES section of the library that suits their reading level. 6 p.m. Nov. 19. Registration required. Northboro Free Library, 34 Main St., Northboro. (508) 393-5025, ext. 4.
Community Thanksgiving Service Join with neighbors and community clergy to give thanks. Coffee and refreshments to follow. 7 p.m. Nov. 19. First Congregational Church of Oxford, 355 Main St., Oxford. (508) 987-2211 or firstname.lastname@example.com.
Office Hours Sen. Richard T. Moore, D-Uxbridge, will hold office hours to meet with constituents who need assistance with matters involving state government. 6-8 p.m. Nov. 19. Oxford Community Center, 4 Maple Road, Oxford.
Holiday Craft Fair Jewelry, aprons, household decorations, noon-2:30 p.m. Nov. 19. Spencer Senior Center, 155 Mechanic St., Spencer.
Adult CPR and First Aid Certification Class CPR, 9-11 a.m.; first aid, 11 a.m.-1 p.m. Nov. 19. $60. Rehabilitative Resources Inc., 1 Picker Road, Sturbridge. (508) 347-8181, ext. 104.
Veterans Day Program 1:30 p.m. Nov. 9. Major Edwards Elementary School, 70 Crescent St., West Boylston. All veterans welcome.
Wachusett Writers and Poets Club 1-3 p.m. Mondays. Town Hall, 11 South St., Westminster. Writers of all genres welcome. (978) 618-5280.
Bread of Life Thanksgiving Community Dinner for Veterans 4 p.m. Nov. 19. Free. 22 State Road, Westminster.


text: Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers could be on the verge of becoming the highest-paid player in NFL history, according to a published report. A new contract, possibly worth $23 million per year, might be in place before next month's draft, Pro Football Talk reported. PFT cited an unidentified league source with knowledge of the situation. The Baltimore Ravens recently signed Super Bowl MVP Joe Flacco to a record $120.6 million deal over six years. Flacco's annual salary of $20.1 million surpassed similar deals with Drew Brees, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Source: Sporting News