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Anthropic principle
The anthropic principle simply states that there are several universal constants and that these constants take on their values according to the requirement that carbon based life can evolve at some point during the universe's history. The universe must be old enough that this has already occurred.
- 1 Background information
- 2 Argument
- 3 Counter arguments
- 4 Other counter arguments
- 5 Additional notes
- 6 Links
Background information[edit]
Perhaps rather than being an argument on its own, apologists use the anthropic principle (or more precisely a straw man version of it) to further bolster the fine-tuning argument and argument from design.
Brandon Carter, the British Cosmologist who proposed this principle in 1976, has gone further by stating that "the Universe must have those properties which allow life to develop within it at some stage in its history."
Argument overview[edit]
Astronomer and Minister Hugh Ross counts more than 100 constants, at a probability of about 1 chance in 10138 against their lining up as they have in our universe. The probability that each of these constants has lined up in a "life friendly" way, without the intervention of an outside intelligence, is astronomically small. With such a low probability of a "life friendly" universe, the only reasonable explanation for our existence is that God has "fine tuned" these attributes specifically to accommodate human life.
There are several versions of the anthropic principle. The two major variations being: "strong" and "weak". The strong anthropic principle (SAP) can also be divided into two other variations, "participatory" and "final".
Weak anthropic principle (WAP)[edit]
The weak anthropic principle states that in a universe that is large or infinite in space and/or in time, the conditions necessary for the development of intelligent life will be met only in certain regions that are limited in space and time. The intelligent beings in these regions should therefore not be surprised if they observe that their locality in the universe satisfies the conditions that are necessary for their existence." (Steven Hawking. A Brief History of Time)
Strong anthropic principle (SAP)[edit]
This form states that a universe "must have those properties which allow life to develop within it at some stage of its history." (John Barrow and Frank Tipler, The Anthropic Cosmological Principle)
Participatory anthropic principle (PAP)[edit]
This form states that a universe cannot come into being without observers (Barrow and Tipler). The implication is that these observers must be sentient.
Final anthropic principle (FAP)[edit]
This form states that intelligences must evolve within a universe and that once evolved will not die out.
The FAP has also been dubbed "the Completely Ridiculous Anthropic Principle (CRAP)" by author and skeptic Martin Gardner.
- p1. There is some kind of special significance to human life and or the human frame of reference.
- p2. From the human frame of reference we seem to observe a number of 'constants' that are necessary for human life to be sustained
- a. Goldilocks zone
- b. Oxygen level
- c. Strength of gravity fields
- d. Etc
- p3. It is far too improbable for all the necessary 'constants' to occur by chance
- c1. Therefore the universe was specifically made this way
- c2. Therefore God
Counter arguments[edit]
Straw man argument[edit]
The proper scientific usage of the anthropic principle in physics and cosmology, is a cautionary statement against making unwarranted assumptions based on the observer's frame of reference. Directly it refers to the tautology that the universe must be able to support life because we are here to observe this fact. Or more broadly, that anything we do observe in the universe must necessarily be skewed by our limited frame of reference from within the very system we are trying to observe.
One of the rules that defines over arching laws of nature is that they cannot be frame dependent. Einstein's law of relativity must hold true on the other side of the galaxy, just as it does here; otherwise it cannot be called a true law of nature.
An example of the anthropic principle in action would be that we are able to observe red shift in distant galaxies. This means that they are all moving away from us. A credulous or egocentric observer might therefore conclude we are at the center of the universe. This is an unwarranted assumption. If however the universe were expanding uniformly (rather than simply escaping from a single point) then another observer would see the same thing from any other position of observation within the universe. On closer inspection we see that this is indeed the case; the red shift of the galaxies linearly increases with the distance the galaxy is from us. It appears the galaxies are all moving away from us, but in fact they are all really moving away from each other.
The theistic usage of the term anthropic principle is almost diametrically opposed to its proper scientific usage. Rather than acting as a cautionary statement against weighting our conclusions based on our frame of reference, it argues that because of our observable frame of reference there must be a god.
False premise p1: Frames of reference[edit]
The entire argument hinges on the human frame of reference being statistically significant. There is, however, no evidence to support this premise. The only significance to our personal existence or frame of reference is the significance that we choose to grant it post hoc.
The chances of getting a royal flush (A,K,Q,J,10, all in the same suit: ♠,♥,♣,or ♦) in poker is 649,740 to 1. It is interesting to note, however, that there are four suits and therefore, four possible royal flushes in a deck of cards. That means that the chances of getting any specific random poker hand of five cards (K♥ J♣ 8♣ 7♦ 3♠) is actually four times more unlikely than getting a royal flush. However, we simply do not grant any statistical significance to this hand in the game's rules.
The fundamental core of this argument is a case of the theist being dealt a random poker hand, and then proclaiming after the fact, "Wow! The chances of me getting this specific hand of cards is 2,598,960 to 1. It must have been divine intervention."
False premise p2: Constants[edit]
The second false premise is related to the so-called constants. It is entirely possible that there are factors that make the possibilities of life in the universe statistically improbable, but reviewing the list of given reasons at some apologetics sites, their importance in the probability equation is questionable at best.
- Goldilocks Zone – Proponents of the argument claim that earth had to be exactly a certain distance from the sun to seed life. This is not necessarily the case. [1] Some forms of bacteria can thrive in conditions ranging from -5°C ice sheets to 400°C underwater volcanic vents; pressures up to 400 bar; salt concentrations up to 10 times higher than regular sea water. The reason we see the life we do is because it has evolved to fit the environment. If a planet was further away from, or closer to the sun, it doesn't mean life couldn't exist, just that it would be different to the life we observe now. Additionally, it is possible that our solar system is a fairly typical system. That when a star system forms it does so under strict physical laws. A gas cloud of a certain size will form a certain sized star, with certain sized planets, at certain orbital distances. Similar to the way Plateau–Rayleigh instability causes a droplet of water followed by several smaller after drops at certain distances due to the waters surface tension versus gravitational pull.
- Oxygen Levels – The oxygen level within earth's atmosphere fluctuates. As there is more plant life the oxygen levels rise, the carbon dioxide level inversely goes down. When this happens plants have less to live on and some of those plants die off. When this happens the oxygen level goes back down and the carbon dioxide level goes up again allowing the plants to reproduce more and regain vitality. This is called a dynamic equilibrium. The system balances itself. It is also worth mentioning that some animals require more oxygen and others less. The level of oxygen is not a constant. And the current level of oxygen being fixed, isn't necessary for life to exist, just extremely fragile life that has evolved within the current environment. Furthermore it is worth noting that on the website referenced, carbon dioxide level is listed as a separate 'constant' rather than a counterpoint to oxygen in a further attempt to try and make the universe appear even more complicated than it really is.
- Gravity Fields – Even something as apparently fixed and transcendental as the strength of gravity is not necessarily a set constant. Recent unified field theories in physics and cosmology propose that at high enough energies, the strong nuclear, weak nuclear, electromagnetic and gravity forces, all converge to become a single unified force. As the universe cooled after the big bang and the four forces separated, mass and energy collapsed to a state where the outward push of the nuclear forces was in a stable equilibrium with the inward pull of gravity. We even observe some cases where one of the forces fails, such as in white dwarf or neutron stars, and the matter and energy compress further under the force of gravity until once again the remaining forces are in equilibrium. The universe is not dependent on the current strength of gravity being fixed.
False premise p3. Statistical probability[edit]
A royal flush is considered statistically significant. It has a probability of 649,740 to 1, which whilst being improbable means if you play 649,740 hands of poker, you should statistically get a royal flush at some point. Given the flaws with the first 2 premises that:
- p1. The only statistical significance to human life or the human frame of reference is what we arbitrarily apply to it post hoc
- p2. That the alignment of the necessary 'constants' is far less improbable than apologists would like to argue they are
Although the conditions for life similar to that on earth may still be improbable, given that there are 400 billion stars in our milky way galaxy, and that there are 100 billion galaxies in the observable universe, that is a staggering number of 'poker hands' the universe has to play with. That doesn't even take into account hypothetical theories about multiverses or an oscillating big bang/big crunch universe. Of course the proper usage of the anthropic principle tells us that while it may be statistically improbable, its isn't statistically impossible given that we have at least one example of life in the universe occurring. A further fallacy of the anthropic principle is the assumption that any of the physical constants of our universe can be changed independently of all other constants and laws. How do we know that altering one constant, assuming that this could, in fact, be done, wouldn't change all of the other natural properties of the system undermining the basic assumption of the anthropic priniciple.
Affirming the consequent[edit]
Arguments from the anthropic principle commit the fallacy of placing the consequent ahead of the antecedent, or affirming the consequent. In plain English, it means the tail is wagging the dog. The features of humanity have evolved as a result of our environment, rather than our environment being tailored to suit us.
Douglas Adams c.1998:
- "Imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in, an interesting hole I find myself in, fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!' This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, it's still frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise. I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for."
The SAP and its variants assume that human observers are required for the existence of the universe. This is a common misrepresentation of the "Copenhagen interpretation" of quantum mechanics. It is taken from the mental experiment called Schrödinger's cat. A cat is placed in a sealed box into which poison will be pumped when the nucleus of a certain atom decays. According to the Copenhagen interpretation, the atom exists as both decayed and undecayed (superpositioned) until a measurement is made. Since the atom must exist in this superpositioned state, the cat must exist in the same state until the box is opened. Note that the cat does not cease to exist, nor does the atom's nucleus. They simply exist in an unobserved state. The 'wave forms' that represent the experiment's possibilities have not collapsed into a single 'choice'. If we accept the most mystical interpretation of quantum mechanics, the universe would still exist without human intelligence. It would simply exist in an unobserved state.
Other counter arguments[edit]
- Because we don't know of other universes with different constants, attempting to list the constants that can somehow vary is little more than speculation. There is no reason to assume that any "constant" can be changed. Furthermore, assuming it is somehow a knob that can be turned by a god effectively makes the anthropic principle assume its conclusion.
- While the odds of a universe's fundamental constants having a specific set of values may be very low, the odds of them having some value is 1.0 (100%). It may be that life exists in our universe because it happened to form, by chance, with a set of universal constants that support life. In other words, humanity exists because of a lucky roll of the dice, so to speak.
- It is possible that terrestrial life is not the only form of life possible in our universe. For example, creatures on another planet might pass on their genes via a mechanism other than the DNA double helix. In other words, it is possible that our universe's constants are friendly to a broad variety of life forms, and therefore it is wrong to assume that they have been 'tailored' to suit just humans.
- Similarly, it is possible that the universe's constants could have varied quite a bit, and still allow earth-style life to form. In other words, a broad variety of universes might be friendly to life as we know it. Indeed, if one of the "constants" is the amount of matter in the universe, why would a god choose a value that was clearly much higher than it needed to be to create life?
- The strong, participatory, and final anthropic principles presuppose that life had to exist in our universe. This is an unwarranted assumption. If our universe could not support life, it would not contain life. There is no reason to suppose that our universe was "intended" or "supposed to" contain life.
- The underlying principles of the universe are not known. Without knowing these principles, applying odds to the settings of the Universal constants is disingenuous. A probability analysis with a sample size of one is meaningless. Since we do not know how many 'settings' are possible for each constant, we cannot assign valid odds for different 'settings'.
- It can be shown that the chances of a universe having "life friendly" universal constants, low though they may be, are higher than the chances of the existence of a supernatural creator. As Michael Ikeda and Bill Jefferys point out in their paper "The Anthropic Principle Does Not Support Supernaturalism" a self referential loop occurs when a supernatural entity is assumed as a creator. Each iteration of the loop decreases the chances of a supernatural entity's involvement in the settings of the universal constant.
- It is unknown whether this is the only iteration of "The Universe". If other universes exist or if this universe has oscillated through a series of Big Bangs and Big Crunches, the universal constants may have been reset many times. Given enough universes and/or Bangs, our "life friendly" settings would inevitably occur.
- Most physicists do not accept the most mystical interpretation of quantum mechanics. Instead they view 'wave form collapse' and 'superpositioning' as an extremely useful and accurate description of poorly understood processes.
- With the SAP, apologists are positing a God of the gaps. The SAP and its variants take as fact what most cosmologists take as speculation. Cosmologists are making highly educated guesses about how the universe works. No-one currently knows how the Universe started or what underpins it. No-one even knows IF the universe started, or if it has always existed. This gap in our knowledge may provide a place for a god to exist, but humankind has examined other holes into which God was supposed to have climbed. In each case we have found nothing there but nature. It is a good bet that this gap houses fascinating things, but no God.
- The same argument can be applied to many entities within our universe, such as bacteria, black holes, or spaghetti bolognaise. For instance: we seem to observe a number of "constants" that are necessary for black holes to be formed and sustained. It is far too improbable for all the necessary "constants" to occur by chance. Therefore, the universe was specifically made this way so that black holes could exist.
Additional notes[edit]
Notwithstanding the obvious fact that the universe really isn't very congenial towards life, as 99.999% of the observed universe is uninhabitable, Vic Stenger in his book God: The failed hypothesis, quotes a private communication with Martin Wagner in which he points out that:
- "In fact, the whole argument from fine-tuning ultimately makes no sense. As my friend Martin Wagner notes, all physical parameters are irrelevant to an omnipotent God. 'he could have created us to live in a hard vacuum if he wanted.'"
See also[edit]
- Fine tuning argument
- Argument from comprehensibility
- Habitable zone
- Straw man
- Statistical significance
- Affirming the consequent
External links[edit]
- Anthropic Principle: The Design Is In The Details – Apologist POV
- The anthropic principle and the big bang: natural or supernatural? - Skeptical POV
- The Anthropic Principle Does Not Support Supernaturalism – Skeptical POV
- http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/quentin_smith/hawking.html
- Wikipedia:Anthropic principle – Wikipedia article
- Wikipedia:Schrödinger's cat - Erwin Schrödinger's thought experiment regarding quantum indeterminacy.
- Wikipedia:Copenhagen interpretation – Key feature of quantum mechanics regarding particles described by wave function.
- Wikipedia:Unified field theory – Theory regarding the relationship between the 4 main forces in the universe.


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SALISBURY, MD. ---- Salisbury's quarterback Dan Griffin ran for 238 yards and four rushing touchdowns, in the 45-21 win over the Hawks. Salisbury only attempted two passes and carried the ball 71 times on Saturday.
Huntingdon had trouble keeping the Sea Gulls option attack off the field, allowing Salisbury to control the time of possession 36:13, compared to the Hawks 23:47 in the game. The Hawks were held to 287 total yards of offense, while Salisbury gained a total of 505 yards with 475 yards coming on the ground.
Trevor Manuel led the Hawks with three rushing touchdowns, while freshman quarterback Taylor Hughes came in the game and led Huntingdon on it's only three scoring drives.
In the first half, the Hawks fell down 14-0 in the first quarter from two Sea Gulls rushing touchdowns. Salisbury found the end zone behind Dan Griffin's 9-yard run and Randal Smedley's one-yard dive.
The Hawks answered back in the second quarter, after freshmen quarterback Taylor Hughes checked into the ball game. Hughes taking his first snaps his collegiate career, led the Hawks on two scoring drives to tie the ball game 14-14.
Huntingdon scored off of a Trevor Manuel 5-yard touchdown, capping a 10-play 62 yard drive with 12:04 to go in the half. The tying score came one-minute later after Salisbury didn't field a short kick-off, and Austin Bennett recovered the ball on the Sea Gulls 36 yard line.
After the Salisbury turnover, freshman Taylor Hughes led the Hawks 36-yards for the tying score, from a one-yard dive by Trevor Manuel. The Corey Robertson extra-point kick tied the game 14-14, with 11:01 to play in the first-half.
Salisbury responded immediately with an eight-play 68 yard drive to regain the lead 20-14, coming from a Brandon Norwood 13-yard touchdown run. The Sea Gull's missed the extra-point, making the score 20-14, with 6:35 to play in the first-half.
The Sea Gulls were able to add to the lead with :33 seconds left in the first-half, from a two-yard dive by quarterback Dan Griffin. Salisbury's extra-point attempt was made to extend the lead 27-14 into the half. Salisbury's late first-half score came from a 10-play 66 yard drive.
Salisbury held the ball 19:51 to the Hawks 10:09, during the first-half.
The Hawks opened the second-half with an unsuccessful drive on the opening drive. The Sea Gulls took over their first drive of the second-half and drove the ball into Huntingdon's territory. The Hawks stopped Salisbury on a fourth-and-ten attempt at the Huntingdon 16 yard line.
After the Sea Gulls failed to convert the fourth down, Huntingdon was held to three-and-out on the next possession. Carl Sanders bobbled the snap in the Hawks end zone and fell on the ball for the safety, giving the Sea Gulls a 29-14 lead.
Salisbury continued to control the clock, after a ten-play 68-yard drive during the third quarter. The drive ended with an A.J. Rosenthal 33-yard field goal, extending the Sea Gulls lead 32-14.
Huntingdon looked to cut into the Sea Gulls lead early in the fourth quarter, with Taylor Hughes in as the quarterback. After a late hit by Salisbury causing Hughes to exit due injury, Trevor Manuel came in the wildcat formation and Salisbury picked off a Manuel pass in the Sea Gulls end zone to stop the Hawks drive.
Two plays later, Salisbury's quarterback Dan Griffin kept the ball around the right end on a 79-yard touchdown run. Griffin's score put the game out of reach, making the lead 39-14 with 10:31 to play in the fourth quarter.
Taylor Hughes led the Hawks on the third and final scoring drive of the day, cutting the lead to 39-21 with 5:46 left in the game. Trevor Manuel capped the 13-play 57 yard drive on a fourth-and-goal one-yard dive for the score.
Salisbury's run heavy offense continued to drain the Hawks defense late in the game. The Sea Gulls continued to extend the lead, coming from a 5-play 49 yard drive. Dan Griffin found the end zone for the fourth time of the day on a 22-yard dash, giving the Sea Gulls the final score of 45-21.
The Hawks were led by freshman Taylor Hughes, who went 9-for-13 for 117 yards, in his Hawks debut. Hughes led the Hawks on all three of the scoring drives and ran for 41 yards on 12 carries. Neal Posey completed 4-of-8 passes for 30 yards in the Hawks loss. Parker Roberts led Huntingdon on the ground, with nine carries and 42 yards.
Cody Pearcy paced the Hawks with four receptions on 20 yards, while Tyler Young hauled in a game-high 44 receiving yards on two catches. Walker Gantt and Trevor Manuel each caught two passes on the day for 22 and 15 yards, respectively.
Defensively, Keith Anthony tied the current school single-game record with 17 total tackles, including five solo stops. Kirk Johnson followed Anthony with 14 stops, while Kaleb Futral recorded 10 tackles and one sack.
The Hawks (3-4) look to snap the four game losing streak on Saturday, Oct. 23, against Webber International in Babson Park, Fla. Kick-off is set for noon.
For more information on Huntingdon athletics visit www.HuntingdonHawks.com.


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BURLINGTON, N.C. --- Lees-McRae freshman Sarah Stallings and sophomore Sadie Lagle turned in multi-hit games in the opener of the Conference Carolinas Softball Tournament, but LMC fell 3-1 to No. 1 Limestone, but bounced back and survived a late scare to boot No. 3 North Greenville with a 4-3 victory on Friday at Springwood Park in Burlington, N.C.
No. 1 Limestone 3, No. 8 Lees-McRae 1
Playing the Saints for the third consecutive game, LMC (9-36) caused a ruckus in the first inning when Stallings (Greensboro, N.C.) led off with a single and motored to third after Valerie Hickey (Umatilla, Fla.) reached second on an error.
Junior Amanda Decker (Apex, N.C.) delivered a RBI bunt single before stealing second. However, Taylor Wigmore settled down and retired the next two batters.
LC (29-16) knotted it up at one when Sam Thornton roped a one-out double before Alycia Stiles connected on a run scoring single up the middle.
The game would last well over three hours due to rain showers throughout the day.
The Saints would grab a 2-1 lead following a Paige Bolding RBI double before Ashley Cox stretched the lead to two with a RBI single.
The Bobcats looked poised to cut the deficit to one, but a fine defensive play cut down Taylor Billings (Sophia, N.C.) at the plate.
Stallings tallied a two-out single in the top of the seventh, but LMC was unable to capitalize.
Wigmore went the distance while scattering seven hits in the win.
Senior Hollie Crickenberger (Boydton, Va.) took the loss while allowing three runs in two innings of work.
No. 8 Lees-McRae 4, No. 3 North Greenville 3
Coach Merritt Yackey's squad displayed patience when they produced consecutive one out walks before a NGU fielding error plated Hickey in the top of the first. Lagle (Harmony, N.C.) would follow suit by scoring on an illegal pitch
Lagle was tabbed to the Conference Carolinas Softball All-Conference First-Team last night.
The Crusaders would benefit from a throwing error and shave the deficit in half in the bottom of the third.
Lagle connected on a two-run double in the top of the fifth after senior Jessica Smith (Gastonia, N.C.) and Hickey reached on singles.
LMC starter Celeste Sheppard (East Julian, N.C.) wiggled out of a jam in the bottom of the sixth when she got Christie Reilly to ground out with runners on second and third.
The Crusaders would make it interesting in the bottom of the seventh when Sarah Armstrong connected on a solo blast before Jordan Willingham made it a one-run ballgame when she scored on a Jordan Farmer single. Freshman Charlie Dutton (Monroe, Ga.) composed herself and recorded a strikeout and groundout to end the threat.
LMC starter Celeste Sheppard (East Julian, N.C.) cruised through six innings on her way to the win while Dutton earned her second save of the year.
LMC will play in a win-or-go-home game against the loser of Mount Olive/Limestone at 2 p.m. tomorrow.


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Oh where are my comrades?
Do they still wander? Are they alive?
Or have they died?
Sing about the little cradle
Sing about the little goat
Sing about the poverty of the Jews
L. Yafe
The Zionist movement in Zyrardow, the roots of which went back many years, renewed its activity soon after the German occupation during World War I, and became especially vibrant and strong with the issuance of the Balfour Declaration in 1917.
The Agudat Hatsionim , which was already in existence, strove to take advantage of the favorable feelings toward Erets-Yisroel, and the enthusiasm that had engulfed large masses of Polish Jewry. Zionist propaganda found a receptive ear and warm response even in those circles that had earlier refused to consider something that seemed too secular and heretical. It became urgent to adapt the movement's methods to the new spirit of the times, and to the newly expanded opportunities. The existing Agudat was not prepared for this, because the majority of its officers were from the older generation, more sedate, prosperous people, who still breathed the romantic Love of Zion atmosphere of the past, who limited themselves to collecting money for the Jewish National Fund, selling a few shekels[1] and bringing in the occasional speaker from Warsaw.
In 1918 a new organization was founded, called Merkaz Hatsioni, which included all the more active officials of the earlier organization, as well as quite a significant number of new, young comrades, especially from among the Zionist youth, who were unable to freely express their nationalism in the nonpartisan, general library, where the ideological conflicts and the struggle for influence in the leadership were becoming sharper.
Merkaz Hatsioni grew quickly and developed a broad range of Zionist activities. They formed their own Yiddish-Hebrew library and reading room for members; and they organized readings on political and literary themes, evenings of open discussions; and musical evenings with local talent, as well as performers brought in from Warsaw.
During this period, the most important leaders and officers were Fayvl Rotshtayn, Avrom Yakob Mazelshtayn (who was especially active in disseminating the Zionist press and literature,) Hershl Yakubson, Itsik Orbakh, Sholem Blumenshtayn and myself (at that time much younger than the others mentioned but already playing an active organizational role), Rokhl Levitas, with very good propaganda and organizational skills, Yakob Boymerder, and Menakhem Landau. A bit later came the brothers Yehoshua and Moyshe Rozentsvayg, and their sister Khava, Rayzl Mazelshtayn, and Avrom Pasternak, a young , very devoted active comrade, who was, incidentally, among the very first Zionists from our shtetl to make Aliyah to Israel. With the coming of Merkaz Hatsioni the following also joined the membership: Moyshe Nayman, Khaim Itsik Altman, Khava Levitas and the very dedicated members, Shmuel Mazalshtayn, Motl Vaynberg, Avrom Tiger, Azriel Gavrilovitsh, Khanele Nayman and Leybl Funtovitsh.
The political developments and events of those years, when Poland became free and independent, the nationalistic and social fervor in Europe as a whole and in Russia in particular, naturally affected the Jewish world as well, and therefore the ideological differences became sharper. Different factions and groups formed within the Zionist movement. The differences between opposing ideological positions deepened over events and problems of the new conditions in general, and Jewish life in particular. Anything that happened in the great center of Jewish life, Warsaw, was reflected in our provincial town. After many years of working together despite internal differences, there came an organizational division.
The Merkaz Hatsioni, which for many years was located in the very center of town at 19 May First Street, was in 1927 taken over entirely by a new youthful rising force, which had actually begun to have influence in its ranks as early as 1919. This was the socialist Tseirei Tsion (Young Zionists) party, which, after it united with the Poalei TsionRight, became one of the largest in town.
The general Zionists, who were forced to leave the quarters they shared with the Merkaz, later formed a new party, Hertseliye, in 1928. Naturally, I'm not in a position to describe their activities, or those of any of the other Zionist or non-Zionist organizations and movements that had their lesser or greater position in Zyrardow, like the Poalei Tsion Left, Histadrut, Revisionism, Mizrakhi, Aguda, the Bund, or the Communists. By the way, it should be noted that in general the relations among the parties in Zyrardow were civil, and based on mutual respect.
As noted, I was one of the first members of the Tseirei Tsion, at the beginning of Zionism in Poland, in 1918-19, and therefore, among those who laid the early foundations of the organization started several years later, the consolidated Tseirei Tsion, later combined with Poalei Tsion Right. I also had the honor of contributing to the continuing growth of that movement, as a member of the leadership, until I made Aliyah in 1934.
For many years, the movement encompassed quite a large part of the older youth, a substantial number of who were drawn in the beginning from petit bourgeois and even Hasidic homes. Under the pressure of changing social conditions, these young people had more and more moved into productive employment. Involved in a constant struggle with other political movements and especially with the important and active Bundist movement for influence over the minds of the youth, we nevertheless managed to dominate the majority of the young and adult tailors and boot stitchers in Zyrardow. Thanks to tireless political and cultural efforts and education, in general our influence grew stronger in the communal life of the town.
Without question, the movement's continuing growth was the result of cooperative effort, selfless dedication and deeply held beliefs in shared ideals on the part of most of the members. They contributed greatly to the growth of the Poalei Tsion movement in various periods, beginning with the very first members of Tseirei Tsion Avrom Yakob Mazelshtayn, Khava Levitas, Yakob Boymerder, Melekh Ayzenberg, and myself, Yosef Nisnberg, and a bit later, the grown youth who were active members, who also displayed much dedication to the movement, like the members of the party committee Avrom Pasternak, Shmuel Mazelshtayn, Ruven Vaynberg, Avrom Kshonzhenitser, Gutshe Nisnberg, Yosef Levitas and Tuvye Rotshtayn. Later, more young people became active, contributing to the growth of the party as members of the party committee Yosef Haldzband, Itsik Frost, Mordkhe Boymerder, Leya Shtrasburg, Avrom Bromberg and the young members Leybl Funtovitsh, Shmuel Moshinski, Khaye Dzshalovska, Yankev Bresler, Moyshe Kimelfeld, Moyshe Meyer Poznanski, Moyshe Mendl Tupman, Mendl Nisnberg. Also, later, the active and dedicated members, the brothers Getsl and Natan Haldzband, and from the last period, the members Nakhman Vayntraub and Menakhem Poznanaski. Last, the devoted activist Levkovitsh. All of those mentioned did all that they could to help the development of the Poalei Tsion movement, the youth organization Freedom, and all other branches of the movement in Zyrardow.
A large portion of those mentioned are unfortunately no longer alive, and were killed by the Nazi murderers. Some are in Israel, having made Aliyah before the outbreak of the Second World War and the Holocaust.
The party developed a very varied range of activities in the social arena. They organized readings, reports, discussion evenings, and created literary groups. They organized excursions and Saturday mornings in the woods around town; a drama circle; and a chorus, Hzamir, under the direction of Yosef Levitas, which also benefited from the permanent participation of the member-musicians Shloyme Birnboym and Matias Vagner. Our literary-musical events and concerts were always big hits. It was also a generally recognized fact, that the most important Zionist work and fundraising for the Jewish National Fund was conducted by the Poalei TsionRight.
A separate youth organization was created, connected to the party, called Freedom, which quickly grew into a large force, and also had a big influence on the adult workers and shul youth. In addition, the party created a League of Working People of Erets Yisroel, which included all the friends of the workers' Histadrut in Israel, and raised a significant amount of money for the Palestine Workers' Fund, through various activities.
The Party also created a branch of the organization Hekhaluts, led by comrades Ruven Vaynberg, Itsik Frost, Leya Shtrasburg, Avrom Kshonzshenitser and Khane Malovantshik. Their main work was to propagandize the Hakhshore[2], Aliyah, and Hebrew courses. The branch also helped to organize and run a Hakhshore section, the Grukhuv kibbutz in Zyrardow.
There was also a sports club, Kraft Hapoel, or Workers' Strength, under the dedicated leadership of comrades Moyshe Zilbershtayn and Akerman. The club distinguished itself with it excellent playing, including competitions with accomplished Christian sportsmen.
In 1933, party members founded a department of Haavod, which organized the small-scale artisans and Zyrardow workers and was led by Shmuel Mazelshtayn. In 1932 the Grukhov kibbutz-Hakshore was founded. It struggled hard for survival, by finding various kinds of heavy work in the town and around it. In addition, the members also had to fight a political battle. On the party's initiative, a committee was formed, comprising various groups who gave moral support to the Hakhshore branch, and helped them find employment possibilities, as well as developing sympathetic feelings on the part of the majority of the Jewish population.
Although the party experimented with working in partnership with the I.L. Peretz Library on certain cultural projects, for various reasons these never went beyond some limited initial efforts.
It bears repeating that it was at the initiative of Poalei Tsion that a multi-party committee was formed to erect the memorial at the graves of the Jewish freedom fighters who were killed in 1906. This also brought honor and importance to the Jewish population, and strengthened their connection to the Polish socialist party, and led to joint efforts between Poalei Tsion and the socialists in mounting May 1st demonstrations. Incidentally, the erection of the memorial also was a way of thanking the former comrades and fellow fighters who emigrated and who belonged to the Zyrardover branch #501 of the Workmens Circle in America.
In a word, Poalei Tsion-Right grew into a great force and an important axle around which the active communal life of Zyrardow revolved.
In ending my remembrances, I will also fulfill a special obligation as an older comrade to the 5 younger freedom comrades, later fighters, who so valiantly fell in the heroic Warsaw Ghetto uprising Itsik Blaushtayn, Itsik Grinboym, Aron Haldzband, Moyshe Tsigler and Fayvl Shvartshtayn. I mention their names with awe and pain for their young lives so tragically cut short. I am proud of the fact that all of them were comrades in the Zionist Socialist movement of Poalei Tsion and drank from our spring. Raised in the spirit and in the tradition of the most beautiful Jewish and universal humanist ideals, through fire and blood they resisted temptation and with honor passed the test of loyalty to the ideals in which they were raised. All five grew up together, dreamed, believed, and hoped together, and heroically fell together for the honor of the Jewish individual and the Jewish people. May their memory be praised and sanctified forever.
And looking back, there come to mind all the many tens of dear comrades with all their unique qualities and aspirations, and the tragic destruction of their hopes. And my heart fills with inconsolable sorrow.
Photos in order of appearance in the original text:
A group of leaders of Agudat Hatsionim in 1916-17. From right to left,
First row, standing: Sholem Blumenshtayn, Yosef Nisnberg, Avrom-Yakob Mazelshtayn.
Second row, standing: Yehiel Muster (Skernovits); a second person from Skernovits, Yakob Boymerder, Boaz Plotsher.
Seated: Hershl Yakubson, Fayvl Totshtayn, Yehiel Linderberg. Directly in front: Dovid Pshikovski (Skernovits).
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The council of Merkaz Hatsionim and a group of comrades, in honor of the departure of Herr Avrom Pasternak for Eretz-Yisroel. From right to left, standing: Moyshe Rozentsvayg, Note Faygenboym, Yisroel Berkovitsh, Menakhem Landau, Yehoshua Rozentsvayg, Moyshe Nayman, Yosef Nisnberg. Seated: Khava Levitas, Yakob Boymerder, Avrom Pasternak, Fayvl Rotshtayn, and Rayzl Mazalshtayn.
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Membership card for Agudat Hatsionim in Zyrardow, #9 for the year 1920.
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Identification card for Merkaz Hatsionim, for member Avrom Mazelshtayn, from 1920.
Page 180:
The leadership of the workers' sports club, Power.
Right to left, standing: Yisroel Goldberg, Leybl Rozenkrants, Moyshe Tupman.
Seated: Noakh Rozenkrants, Avrom Kshonzshenitser, Yosef Levitas, Munye Malovantshik and Moyshe Zilberman
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A group of active members of Merkaz Hatsionim.
Right to left, standing: Menakhem Landau, Matias Vagner, Avrom Pasternak, Reyzl Mazelshtayn, Peretz Fridman, Shmuel Mazelsthayn.
Seated: Yisroel Berkovitsh, Khava Levitas, and Dvore Vargatsh.
Page 182, top:
The council of the General Zionist organization, Hertsiliya.
Right to left, seated: Motl Vaynberg, Yehiel Levkovitsh, Khava Rozentsvayg, Avrom Mordkhe Liktenshtayn, Menakhem Landau.
Standing: Yakob Grushka, Akiva Rozentsvayg, Khaye Goldberg (now in Israel), Ezriel Gabriolavitsh, and Yehoshua Rozentsvayg.
Page 182, bottom:
Leadership and delegates to the council of Freedom in Zyrardow in 1927.
Right to left, standing: Shloyme Birnboym, Leybl Rotenberg, Leya Shtrasburg, Shmuel Shoshinski, Arye Gothard.
Seated: Yosef Gelson, Shmuel Mazelshtayn, Avrom Kshonzshenitser, Pinkhes Flantser, Leybl Funtovitsh, and Yosef Nisnberg.
In a word, Poalei Tsion-Right grew into a great force and an important axle around which the active communal life of Zyrardow revolved.
In ending my remembrances, I will also fulfill a special obligation as an older comrade to the 5 younger freedom comrades, later fighters, who so valiantly fell in the heroic Warsaw Ghetto uprising Itsik Blaushtayn, Itsik Grinboym, Aron Haldzband, Moyshe Tsigler and Fayvl Shvartshtayn. I mention their names with awe and pain for their young lives so tragically cut short. I am proud of the fact that all of them were comrades in the Zionist Socialist movement of Poalei Tsion and drank from our spring. Raised in the spirit and in the tradition of the most beautiful Jewish and universal humanist ideals, through fire and blood they resisted temptation and with honor passed the test of loyalty to the ideals in which they were raised. All five grew up together, dreamed, believed, and hoped together, and heroically fell together for the honor of the Jewish individual and the Jewish people. May their memory be praised and sanctified forever.
And looking back, there come to mind all the many tens of dear comrades with all their unique qualities and aspirations, and the tragic destruction of their hopes. And my heart fills with inconsolable sorrow.
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The junior ice hockey world championships are currently underway in Russia, and these kids are not messing around. The video above comes from today's contest between Canada and Slovakia, and features Canadian Anthony Camara absolutely demolishing Slovakia's Patrik Luza with a vicious forecheck.
The hit wasn't explicitly dirty, as Camara didn't leave his feet or take a direct shot at the head, but the effect on Luza—who went limp while falling to the ice and needed to be taken off on a stretcher—was devastating. We recommend that any hockey fans currently suffering through the NHL lockout take some time to quench their thirst for violence with a bit of high-impact junior hockey.


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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 2:34 pm
Joined: 05 May 2005
Posts: 164
Location: Minneapolis
I'm working on (with some co-conspirators) planning a ride for Tuesday evenings. Essentially it'll be self-guided. Kinda like this:
1. Anyone welcome
2. Meet near Lake Harriet Bandshell (or similar noncommercial location TBD)
3. Hang out and chit chat for a SHORT amount of time (like from 6:30 to 7)
4. Head out at an an approximate time, in small groups or in as large a group as will stay together without blocking traffic, etc.
5. Do the Grand Rounds or a modified version thereof, but the same route EVERY WEEK
It's more frequent, so summer schedules can be flexible. I know I get into a bad loop sometimes when I have vacation or summer events every other week and they always happen to be on ride Sundays. It's also somewhere highly visible, so new riders can stumble upon us hanging out for 20 minutes before riding, or friends can tell friends "Oh you have a scooter? I always see scooters at Harriet on Tuesday Night" and thus bring in new blood.
Self guided? We can all leave at the same time, but there's no waiting for slow people, or having to keep up with fast people. Also, if the group gets split at a light or something, there's no upset. It's not so much a group ride, as a group of scooters leaving the same place, going the same direction, at roughly the same time. Ideally small groups would end up forming for each night.
As it evolves there may be periodic stops here and there along the route to collect up folks if so desired. I'm trying to print up a pile o maps of the route for the uninitiated, as well. I'll keep them in my glovebox and hand them out as needed. Or others can as well.
It will also eventually be non-dependant on any one person to lead the run. If it's a regular thing, and people just know where to go (or even if some people choose to do a new route by themselves) it won't be a waffle-match trying to come up with a route or someone to lead it.
Why the same route? I know some people are sick of it but.. It's a fun route. It's relatively simple and pretty. And if I know I can get in on the Tuesday ride for only half an hour and bail at suchandsuch a place, I'd be more likely to go for it. That, and if I'm late I can try and intercept the group(s) if I know approximately when and where they'll be.
Heck, if it works out, I'd even offer to say this could be a self-guided slow ride for the rally. Throw the map and a brief flyer about how to follow the route in the Rally bag o stuff. I've got a Stella now, so I'd want to go to Afton for the rally, but if one option for slower scoots was to follow this ride, I think it might help the situation.
My whole purpose here is to offer a low-stress ride, especially for people who don't have much group riding experience or even know about the club. But it's also an opportunity for those with a lot of experience to get to know new folks, mix it up, and get in some of those beautiful evening summer rides!
I'll most likely be start this Tuesday with an initial loop to see how long it takes exactly, etc. If people are interested, I'll post to confirm that when I know for sure. I think a catchy name might be needed, as well. And T-Shirts. And a theme song. And a mascot.
-Robert Craig
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 3:29 pm
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Needs to be more exclusive.
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 10:33 pm
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Posts: 200
co-conspirators?? hmmm...
i'm all for it, fnirt... er, robert. consistent. methodical. (you're starting to sound like a serial killer or something!)
count me in. 6:30 this upcoming tuesday. see ya then!! and since i can't friggin go to the rally, i'd best get all the group riding in that i can...
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 8:32 pm
Joined: 05 May 2005
Posts: 164
Location: Minneapolis
I'll be at the parking lot by the Lake Harriet Bandshell sometime after 6:30pm, and I'll be taking off on the/a/some ride at 7:00pm.
If it's raining, there's always next week. But I'll pry show even in a drizzle.
This ride is open to anyone with a scooter. Scooter with a motor. And two wheels. Capable of going AT LEAST 20 mph.
(How's THAT for exclusive, Derrick?)
-Robert Craig
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Location: Minneapolis
I'll be very happy to join you on the new Stella...er, after the "House" season finale.
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TIVO...it will change your life.
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see ya there, robert....
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.. that if it's raining I'm not going to be there, but will show if it's drizzling?
The radar doesn't look so hot right about now, but we'll see.
-Robert Craig
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Location: Minneapolis
"... if I am late I can try and intercept the group ..."
Approximately where will the group be and in what direction will they be travelling at maybe 7:30 and/or 7:45 this Tuesday? (Asuming that the weather holds)
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 10:28 am
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Location: Minneapolis
Last week there were two of us and it was a pretty good run. We were watching the gray clouds slide over us the whole way, and it started raining at the top end of Lake of the Isles.
I am planning on going again this Tuesday, but I'm out of town next week, so it'll be a nice test of the "can this run by itself" concept.
Here's the (current) route:
Based on last weeks run, which was kinda in the wrong direction due to rain..
I think the route is working out to be something like this:
Meet at the Lake Harriet bandshell.
From Harriet go round the lake to Calhoun, go clockwise around calhoun to dean pkwy.
From Dean go counterclockwise around lake of the isles, then up hennepin through downtown.
Catch the river road (west side) down the river to minnehaha, then follow the creek back to harriet.
Based on that route I'd guess we'd be somewhere along the river road by 7:30 or 7:45. I should have a MUCH more confident guess on locations/times after this next run.
Last week I got the map started, this week I hope to get the rest of the route so I can post a map. It's not as complicated as it looks, it's essentially the Grand Rounds with the top (memorial pkwy, etc) lopped off.
Once the route stabilizes it'll be the same every week.
-Robert Craig
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 8:35 pm
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Location: Austin, TX
Thanks for organizing this Robert. I hope to get out soon for them. I keep having things come up for Tuesday evenings.
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:12 am
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Location: Minneapolis
Well, the second ride happened last night and I think it went well. Only two of us, but the route was good. 1:15 total riding time over 22 miles, I think.
Yeah, it's a little slow in spots, but you have to stop and smell the roses from time to time.
I think it's cool that the run goes through so many different types of ride. The lakes with it's crowds and people watching, downtown through urban traffic, down the river, up the creek, etc. It contains the longest stop-free stretch I've found in the cities (river pkwy, 2 miles), the coolest (down by the river, always 5 degrees cooler than the rest of the city), the prettiest (take your pick), etc.
I'm out of town next week, but the following week I'll be there again, with maps to hand out if people want them. I'll also try and get a map online, as well. I know most people don't need the map, but it can't hurt.
-Robert Craig
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 9:05 am
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sounds nice... misc. crud has kept me from attending the past few tuesdays.
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 9:32 am
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Haven't said it yet, so let me do so now. The Tuesday night rides are a great idea. A simple, pleasant way to add another social ride to the calendar.
This Tuesday (MAY 31) seems like it is going to be near perfect conditions for an evening ride. Looking forward to trying out the route.
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 10:06 am
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Hopefully I can be there this time.
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Baby number 2 will be here at the beginning of May…again! Ya'll think I go overboard with birthday parties for Kate? What on EARTH am I going to do now! 2 parties, 2 kiddos. Oh man. Maybe 1 BIG party with lots of cake and sprinkles? That should do it.
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From Dave Ruel, Author of the Anabolic Cooking Cookbook
Every serious fitness enthusiast knows that nutrition is the most important part of building an impressive, ripped, muscular physique.
Let's face it, even if you are on the best training program possible and take all the best supplements, your muscles won't grow by themselves and the fat is not going to fall off magically. Food will make your muscles grow and burn that stubborn belly fat. Without nutritious food in the right quantities, even the most intense workout or cardio session is worthless. That's as simple as that.
And, even though we all know this, preparing and eating meals is almost always the most overlooked and neglected area of our lives. We always go for the easy option by spending tons of money in pre-made meals, take-out food and meal replacement drinks.
However, some people still manage to be faithful to a bodybuilding or fitness specific meal plan, but they quickly face another problem:
It's not long before we crave junk food, we start cheating and eating everything on site that is tasty. Why? Because we had nothing healthy and tasty prepared in advance. Nothing that could match the satisfaction of eating something that tastes so good that you want more…
And you're not the one to blame…Who the hell can live exclusively on boiled chicken breasts, baked potatoes and broccoli?
I bet that you know exactly what I'm talking about, right?
Other problems people face is the misconceptions surrounding cooking, eating and preparing meals for Bodybuilding and Fitness.
#1 You are convinced that bodybuilding and fitness nutrition must be plain, boring and taste terrible.
#2 You don't think that there is such thing as a delicious meal that will taste like something you'd eat at a restaurant and promote muscle building and fat loss at the same time
#3 You think that you are incapable of cooking, and you don't feel confident and comfortable enough in the kitchen to prepare tasty meals
#4 You think it is going to take all of your precious time to make a full week's worth of meals, and that eating pre-package food and take out will be a real time-saver.
#5 You are worried and absolutely positive that a trip to the grocery store will cost you an arm and a leg.
Is this list familiar? Don't worry, you are not the only one.
You know, I never always was "The Muscle Cook", In fact, when I started training seriously for bodybuilding, I was very insecure in the kitchen, always scared, fearing that my meals would end up tasting like cardboard. I was also told that a bodybuilder should eat plain food to get big and ripped (couldn't have been more far from the truth…)
I did not know how to prepare many healthy and delicious meals at all. I was eating a lot of packaged food, eating take-out and I would cheat on my "diet" more than often just because I needed to get something tasty in my mouth.
But, I was in complete denial, I would make excuses for my lack of progress and the fact that I just couldn't build the ripped muscular physique that I always dreamt of. I was blaming everything (my training, stress from school/work, supplements not working, etc…) but the real reason : my poor nutrition!
And then I came across my mentor… a bodybuilder who had a different vision about muscle building nutrition… A man who was convinced that "dieting" for bodybuilding and fitness doesn't have to be boring…
He helped me improve my poor diet around and make the most phenomenal body transformation I could ever dream of… Simply by teaching me how to cook healthy and tasty meals in order to achieve my goals. He thought me the secrets of cooking healthy muscle-building meals that promotes lean muscle mass gains, rapid fat loss of fat, and top athletic performances.
How many times have we heard stupid statements like "if it tastes good, just spit it back" or "eat for fuel not for pleasure". Let me tell you that these statements are made by people who have clearly never come across my book. In fact, eating for bodybuilding and fitness purposes with complete disregard for taste has become one of the most detrimental concepts ever imagined. It's like building a useless wall between yourself and your dream physique…
Like me, you will learn everything you need to know about cooking and eating for success. I will teach you step by step how to cook tasty meals to make your fitness goals a reality, no matter what they may be.
You will conquer your fear of the kitchen and you will understand just how easy it really is and how you can master the art of cooking in minutes. You too will learn how to prepare delicious muscle building meals in just minutes.
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In this book you will find:
More than 200 "Anabolicious" recipes, all full of flavours, designed to promote muscle building and fat loss, and that you can prepare in minutes. In fact those recipes are so easy to make, even a 10 year-old can do it!
Done-For-You Meal Plans : I will tell you what to eat, when to eat, and how to prepare all your meals, with the complete shopping list and full step-by-step directions. All that supported by my Best Nutrient Timing Strategies
Anabolic Cooking and Nutrition Fundamentals: everything that a person involved in bodybuilding or fitness MUST know about nutrition. You will know exactly what's in the food your eating!
A Virtual Cooking Class: learn how to read a recipe, the different cutting techniques and cooking methods, completed with the Anabolic Cooking Glossary. All you need to know to get started cooking will be covered from A to Z!
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Stop wasting your time listening to all the bodybuilding and fitness nutrition nonsense, instead get started today learning how to make your own mouth-watering meals that will once and for all give you the opportunity to stick to a nutrition plan specific to your goals and get finally the results and body you deserve!
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I don't know how many times a day I hear this excuse…
The same excuse over and over again…
In this fast paced world we live in today, fathers and mothers no longer teach their children how to prepare their own foods – probably because they themselves do not know. People no longer want to take the time to learn to make and take pride in a meal they prepared themselves. Life has become so fast paced that we look for ready-made meals in a package. And as a whole, our nation is getting fatter and fatter and fatter.
Even so called "healthy meals" come ready made and microwaveable, with all that you need for a "low calorie" meal. As an added bonus, boxed meals are spiked with latest technological breakthroughs in preservatives and chemicals, so that the little box of frozen food can survive years in storage, until you buy and eat it. No wonder the number cancers constantly increase…
Is that what you want for your children? Is that what you want for YOURSELF?
Yes we live in a fast paced world, Yes being a parent, a businessman, or an athlete is time consuming… Are does valuable reasons to jeopardize your health? HELL NO!
Listen to what these users of the Anabolic Cooking Cookbook have to say and how this book made their lives easier, even with their hectic schedules:
Well my friend, if you have read this far, then I know that you are serious about bodybuilding and fitness, that you know that if you want to get the results you are working so hard for that you have to start eating like you should!
If you're a man, I know you want an impressive, ripped, muscular physique. If you're a woman, you more than likely want to be toned, and get that fit body you always dreamed of. And, if you're a parent, you want your family and yourself to be healthy and live for a long time in perfect health.
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Here is what you're getting:
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Healthy for you and all your family
Easy to make and that you can prepare in minutes
Anabolic Cooking will turn you into the cook you never thought you could be…Whether your goal is to build lean muscle mass, lose body fat, stay fit, perform better or simply be healthy, this cookbook is a must-have in your kitchen!
($57 Value) – The Complete Nutrition and Cooking Guide is loaded with precious information that you must know about bodybuilding and fitness and to master the art of cooking for real results.
It is called "Quick Start" because I wrote this book in a very simple manner and will allow you to get started in no time…
In the Complete Quick Start Guide, You will learn:
Exactly What's in your food and what to look for
The anabolic cooking and nutrition fundamentals
How to read a recipe, the different cutting techniques and cooking methods, completed with the Anabolic Cooking Glossary
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The tactics and secrets of post-workout nutrition
My top money saving and grocery shopping tips
How to build your Anabolic Cooking Kitchen
How to manage your cheat meals effectively
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I am not even going to charge the original $77… Today, you have the opportunity to get the entire 7-component package, valued at $419, at the seriously discounted price of:
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Don't rub your eyes; it's not a typo.
It's a real, heavily discounted rate only being offered for a limited time.
Simply put, I want to put this powerful information into your hands today at an extremely affordable price. To be frank, I could charge five times that amount and it'd still be an incredible value, but I'm not going to do that—at least not today.
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You see, I can make an over-the-top guarantee like this for one simple reason: I've researched it, I've tested it, and I've perfected it. I know you won't regret it… It changed my life, it changed dozens of other people's lives, and I know it will change yours!
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In heath, fitness, love of life and good food,
Dave Ruel, CFT, NWS
P.S. I want to give you a huge discount today, but you are the one that has to decide to take action. Right now, you can get the 5 component and the 4 exclusive bonuses at the LOWEST PRICE it will EVER ever be offered at by ordering right now.
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P.P.P.S. If you don't think this is the best deal to be found ANYWHERE… check out what Shawn said… "Dave, you definitely need to charge more for this cookbook and nutrition guide. At first I almost didn't purchase it because it seemed "too" inexpensive. And, when I decided to get it, I was totally shocked of how REALLY inexpensive it was compared to the quality and the real value of this product (and all the other components too). Dave for thinking about us first Dave, and not about money! " –Shawn, NY, USA
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MOSCOW — Iran announced an enlargement of its uranium production and asserted other atomic energy advances on Tuesday, striking a defiant tone in the aftermath of diplomatic talks this past weekend in Kazakhstan that ended in an impasse.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who proclaimed the expansions in a speech, coupled them with harsh criticism of what he called ''hegemonic powers'' that have sought to damage Iran's dignity through pressures — a clear reference to economic sanctions imposed by the United States and European Union over the nuclear dispute.
"Iran has already become a nuclear country and no one is capable of stealing this title,'' the official Islamic Republic News Agency quoted Ahmadinejad as saying at a ceremony held to commemorate National Nuclear Technology Day, a holiday he created in 2006 during his first term in office in order to exalt Iran's nuclear energy achievements.
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Iran has defied United Nations Security Council demands for a halt to the uranium enrichment until questions about its nuclear intentions are answered. Iran denies that its intent is to build a nuclear weapon, but the bigger powers suspect otherwise.
The talks in Almaty, Kazakhstan, ended late Saturday not only without a deal, but with no plans for a next round of discussions — capping a year of talks that by all accounts have not brought the sides any closer. At a briefing after the talks, a senior American official said Iran had not offered a detailed response to a proposal put forward by the big powers in February and had made unrealistic demands.
''That minimal response not only had very, very tiny steps in our view, but wanted a lot in return for those tiny steps,'' the American official said. ''So this is a negotiation, but the gulf between their current position and ours is quite great.''
As Israel and other critics who believe the Iranians are merely stalling for time to develop a nuclear weapon renewed their calls for more decisive action, negotiators for the big powers planned to confer with senior officials in London, where the Group of 8 foreign ministers are meeting this week.
Negotiators for the so-called P5-plus-1, the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council — Britain, China, France, Russia, and the United States — plus Germany, had expressed hope that the stalled talks would give the Iranians pause.