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The Senate met at 11: 15 a.m., on the expiration of the recess, and was called to order by the President pro tempore (Mr. ELLENDER). The Chaplain, the Reverend Edward L. R. Elson, D.D., offered the following prayer: We commend to Thee, 0 Lord, all who are en~aceli in the Government of this Nation. Grant to them integrity of purpose and unfailing devotion to the cause of ri~hteousness. May all their legislation be such as will promote the welfare of the people, succor the poor, relieve the oppressed, brine- new opportunities to the under.J?rivile&"ed, correct bad policies and reduce social wrongs, to Thy glory and the good e~ample of the people, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen. THE JOURNAL Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr.. President, I ask unanimous consent that the Journal of the proceedings of Tuesday, February 2, 1971, be approved. The PRESIDENT pro tempore. Without objection, it is so ordered. COMMITTEE MEETINGS DURING SENATE SESSION Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President', I ask unanimous consent that all committees be authorized to meet during the session of the Senate today. The PRESIDENT pro tempore. Without objection, it is so ordered. A CONVERSATION WITH THE MAJORITY LEADER Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, on January 26, the TV networks very generously made available a substantial amount of time for congressional Democrats to set forth views on current issues. I agreed to make this appearance, with the concurrence of the Senate Democratic conference and the distinguished Speaker of the House (Mr. ALBERT) whom I wou1d have preferred to have seen speaking for the Democrats as he can so ably do, but who was unable because of a previous ironclad commitment to undertake the telecast at the time. I want to make clear that while the occasion was billed as a "Democratic state of the Union message," it was not so intended. There is only one person who can deliver a state of the Union message in this Nation and that is the President of the United States, whoever he may be. It is both his constitutional prerogative and his responsibility as the sole political representative of the Nation as a whole. I would not presume to intrude on either that right or that responsibility. He speaks for the Nation on the state of the Senate WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 3, 1971
retty bruad brush. I, would have liked to have seen something In the field of foreign policy. He has said that he will make a State of the World speech next month. I 'll be looking forward to it with anticipation. You can't say a great deal In a State of the Union speech. I! It 's too long, you lose Interest and people go to sleep on you. He picked out six broad areas which he wanted to emphasize and be did. Of co\use, there are always other areas which could have been mention ed, the question of the races, the question o! the ghettos, but I assume that In all these areas, more or less, which he advocatE'S, that these other matters are intertwined. FRANK MANKIEWICZ. Senator, we're sorry to hear you're not enjoying yourself, but .. . Senator MANSFIELD. Well, I am with you people. I don't like to--wel!, go ahead. FRANK MANIUEWICZ. But, perhaps It Will get more enjoyable as we go along. To get back to the statement you made last year when you answered the President's economic message, the Administration ls now saying that the economic game plan Is working out all right, that the tide of Inflation has turned, that we're at or near the peak of unemploy~ ment, that unemployment is going to recede and prices are going to stay level. Do you believe that? Do you think we've turned that corner? If so, who gets the credit for lt? Senator MANSFIELD. I would walt untll the next figures on unemployment come out . I understand t hey are at six percent at the present time. A few days ago I Indicated that inflation was at a rate of around seven percent. I found out since that I was wrong. I was basing my figures then on a report put out by the st. Louis Federal Reserv~ Bank last September and October. The Inflation ls a little In excess of five percent so there seems to be some diminution there. With the reduction In Interest rates, even lnclndlng mortgage Interest rates, with the rise In the stock market, maybe there are Indications that a turn for the better Is takIng place. But we cannot say so wltb certainty at the present time. We have to walt and see what the figures will show ln the months ahead. RoBERT CLARK. What happened to that temporary wage-price freeze that you and other Democratic leaders o! Congress proposed a couple of months ago? Would you still !Ike to see that put Into effect? Senator MANSFIELD. Well, It's kind of late now to put It ln. It was proposed a.t a time when we thought It would be most effective. Nothing has happened to i t. RoGER MUDD. Senator, the President last week, ln effect put the burden on t he Congress when he said that the 92nd Con grese can be' recorded as the greatest Congress In the nation's history. Senator MANsFIELD. So dld the Republican Natlona.l Cha irman yesterday. RoGEll MunD. Well, do you regard the President's &lx great goa.ls as so merltorlc that l.f the Congre86 enacts t h em tba.t the nation's plaoe ln history will be fixed by t h e 92nd! Congress? Senator MANSFIELD. Well, l.f they're all enacted, we will have made our mark. But I Mike Mansfield Papers, Series 21, Box 47, Folder 9, Mansfield Library, University of Montana Feb'tuary 3, 1971 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE s 735 don't think they all w1ll be etll\Cted because It's so comprehenslve that I tb"nk it'a not rea.sonable to expect that ..U thet..J proposals could be accompltshed In a two year span. RoGEil MUDD. Well, do you think that the six great goals a.re of such magnitude and are so revolutionary that the!"e is design in the President's message to tie the Congress up, that the reco=endatlons will fall of their own weight and be will have something to run against In '72? Senator lllANsrn:LD. Oh, no. I wouldn't make that charge or alega.tlon against any President because I think ba.slcally they're all trying to do the beet they can for the country. ROBERT CLARK. I think Roger ba.s quoted the President on the 92nd Congress. To put that In perapectlve, Roger, 1t you'll pardon me, I think we need to quote him on the 91st Congress also; and he said In his summary of the last Congre88 In Ita last days, he called It a failure 1n many ways and said that 1n Its closing days It gave the American people a. spectacle that It had lost the capacity, that Congress ha.d lost the capacity to decide anll the will to act. Would you agree that that's an opinion that is at least shared by a lot of people? Senator MANSJ"D:LD. No, I would not. I think a.s far a.s the Senate Is concerned, we've acted very responsibly and as far a.s the House 1s concerned. I must say In all candor, they'··~ acted better than we have. BILL MoNRoE. Didn't you have any s&nse of failure, even partial failure, In terms of the end of the la.st Senate session and the logjam that happened In the Senate? Senator MANSJ'IELD. No, not failure. Disappointment, but the Social Security Bill will come back and be passed before Spring, In my opinion, and be made retroactive to the 1st of January. The trade blll and the welfare plan very likely needed some more consideration, so I think 1t you balance it up, it evens out. BILL MoNROE. Would you like to see the Senate perform better, more efllclently, In the 92nd Congress? Senator MANSFIELD. Oh, yes. And I anticipate It wlll, despite the fact that a tl.llbuster Is In the making at the present time on the change of !tule 22. MoNRoE. What are the circumstances that might let It perform more efficiently? MANSFIELD. Well, I think we ought to reduce the !tule 22 from two-thirds of those present and voting to three-fifthS of those present a.nd voting so that we wouldn't get caught In the l~jam, a.s we did 1n part, In the closing days of the 91st. MoNJtoz. To end· the till buster. MANKIEWicz. Senator, one of the things the Senate oertalnly re-asserted and I think one of the things that the Preaident may have been talking about in some of his less complimentary co=enta on the Senate was ln the area of foreign poltcy and specifically In Southeast Asia. Do you see anything 1n the events of the last couple of weekS and even In the last couple of days 1n Cambodia to SUi'gest to you that perhaps the Senate might want to move again 1n that area.? MANsFIELD. Yes, indeed. I think the Senate Is to be co=ended for taking the time It did la.st year, unwittingly aided by Adml.nlstratlon stalwarts, In the consideration of the Cooper-Church proposal to make Its presence felt. Under the Constitution, the Congress 111 a oo-equa.I branch of the government and I think It's about tlme that the Senate atepped, the Congress stllpped forward, the Senate especially, a.nd looked atter the Interests of the American people, to a greater extent tba.n heretofore tn the field ot foreign re)atlons. Y ee, rm distUI'bed about C&mbodla.. I hope lt Isn't the beginning of a step-up 1.n the wa.r. But at the present time I'm un-easy, concerned and -cUsturbed.. CLARK. Senator, do you think that the President has violated or disregarded the Intent ot Congress in the expansion ot the air war Into Cambodia? MANSFIELD. I tWnk that the intent- has been disturbed, distorted, but I think that he's doing the best he can In a most dimcult situation and trying :to adhere to the strict Interpretation of the law, but I think It's being Interpreted a little bit out of proportion. MUDD. Senator, how would that follow? I! he's doing the best he can and the best he can involves going beyond the pledges that the Administration gave to the Congress about the use ot a.lr power over Ca.mbodla? MANSFIELD. That's right, but what I mean Is the Interpretations that are being given by Secretary Laird seem to Indicate that what Is being done 1n Cambodia 1s In accord with Cooper-Church, which I think 1s cont rary to the fact. Furthermore, you may recall that lo.at June 30th the President, on the removal of the last U.S. troops from Cambodia, made the statement that there would be no a.lr support or loglstlc support tor South VIetnamese trops in Cambodia and that the only a.lr acti vlty would be to Interdict the inflow of supplies and men !rom North Vietnam down into South Vietnam. CLARK. Senator, I think you would agree that the only real power the Congress has, the only real weapon it has in asserting ita own authority over the President 1n ending the war or In curta.lllng Cambodian oper~ tlons is the power ot the purse. MANSJ"IELD. That's right. CLARK. And that would mean actually withholding appropriations for milt~ operations in the field. MANSFIELD. That's right. CLARK. Can you conceive of this Congress taking that drastic step? MANSFIELD. No. I cannot. Because while my position on the war Is well-known-I think It's a tragedy, a. mistake. We never should have become Involved In the first place--and I must say that I felt this way even before we became Involved, that the possibility was there. But you have young men out there who are carrying out their obltgations, many or them with grave questions in their mind, and I think we owe an obllgatton to them and because of that there will be no diminution as !ar as the funds necessary to be appropriated to care !or them. MANKIEWYCZ. Let's talk about Cambodia for a minute, Senator, If we may, and assume, as I 1mag1ne you do and certainly Secretary Laird seems to, that without the level of u.s. support that they're now getting, they would not be able to survive, ar at least the present government would not be able to survive. MANSFIELD. That Is correct. MANKIEWICZ. Now, I take It what you're sayllng Is that It the Intent and sp1r1t of the Cooper-Church Amendment were carried out, we would not be giving that support. Would you be willing, then, to see that government, In effect, overrun? MANSFIELD. Well, let me put It this way. I'm more Interested In the release of our prisoners of war, the safety of the U.S. troops, and the contthued, It not accelerated withdrawal. The Saigon government has In excess or one m11lion men and they've been trained, paid, armed, ted, everything by this government and 1t one mllllon or more men cannot defend their country at thls time and participate on their own In behalf of Cambodia, then I don't know what can be done. I'm not Interested In other oountries except on a sympathetic a.rms~length basis. I am Interested In P.O.W.'s. I am Interested In our own troope. YoNJLOE. Senator, l.s there a baste ditference In our approach to VIetnam and ending that war between the Democratic Party and the Nixon Administration? lllANSI!'IELD. No. Only on the hope of some of us that It oould be accelerated. But at least the President has reversed the Jntlow, 1a mov-lng In the right direction-out and we want him to continue to do so. MoNROE. There's no consensus yet among Democrats that we should set a deadline for getting all the way out? MANSFIELD. Well, the question of a deadline Is one which ought to be settled In private. But 1! It comes to the crunch, It may well be that there w111 be some of us who will vote for a publlc deadllne to help speed up withdrawal. But basically it should be something which the President himsel! and his advisors ought to arrive at an agreement on. MONROE. Senator, are you personally more favorable to the Idea of setting a dea.dl1ne now than you were some months ago? MANsFIELD. Oh, I voted for the McOovernHatfield Amendment. CLARK. Senator could you be convinced that the sort of air support we're giving in Cambodia, and It seems to be very complete tactical a.lr support, heavy bombing raids and so on, that this sort or air support Is Justified 1t It's the only way we cat:. guarantee that we can proceed with·the timetable tor pull1ng American troops our of VIetnam? MANSI'IELD. I don't s&e the connection between the two because again I throw In the one mUllon man plus army of South Vietnam. CLARK. Well, if I could quote your old friend George Aiken, who said only yesterday that he has been among those who has voiced strong concern over what's going on In Cambodia at the moment, but, he said, "That action has to be judged against the problem o! withdrawing American troops from Vietnam." Would you disagree with that? MANSFIELD. Well, I would take George Aiken's word on anything and if George Aiken says that, It's all right with me. I still have my own conviction. MUDD. Senator, you yourself have said that Democratic criticism against the President's foreign pollcy has been muted, that you wanted to give him time to go through with his withdrawal. Has the time now come when that criticism must Increase in pitch and intensity? MANSF"IELD. Not necessarily, but the time ha.s come, I think, to work harder In an attempt to get the President to continue the policy which he has now undertaken and to speed up the withdrawal of U.S. troops from all of Southeast Asia, all ot Indochina and Thalland to withdraw lock, stock and barrel. MUDD. Precisely how do you do that? MANSJ"IELD. By ca.lllng attention to what's happening ln Cambodia, by showing the people downtown that these things are not going unnoticed, that we Intend to hold hearings and to lay the story out. MuDD. But hearings don't really bring the Administration to heel, do they? MANSFIELD. Well, hearings bring the people to the--bring the situation to the attention ot the people and the people are still the dominant factor In this country, as I think was Indicated at the time of Cambodia last Spring. CLARK. Senator, it the wa.r is still going on In 1972, will the Democratic candidate for President have to be an anti-war candidate with a. specific plan and a. cut-oll' date for getting out or Vietnam. MANSFIELD. You're asking me sOinethlng I know nothint; about. • MANIUEWICZ. Senator, it we could get to something that you were very acti?e 1n related to the foreign field, the annual debate, the close contest over the anti-ballistic mlsslie system specifically. The President picked up a few votes last su=er on that question, but not yours. On the dual argument that the RU88ians were rushing ahead with developinent of their new supermisslle, the SS--9 a.nd that we wouldn't really need the ABM, we could use lt as a. bargaining chip In the SALT TalkS. Since lt now appears that the 88-9 production has slowed, if not Mike Mansfield Papers, Series 21, Box 47, Folder 9, Mansfield Library, University of Montana 8736 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD- SENATE February 3, 1971 stopped and that we apparently are not going to bargain the ABM at SALT, Is It your feeling that you may prevail this year? Are you ·going to make another fight on the ABM, and do you expect most of the Democrats to go with you? MANSriELD. Yes, but I don't think the prospects for success are good based on what developed last year. Two years ago we did come within one vote, but now that the start has been made, It would be my belle! that the dlftlcultles would be greater In defeating the extension, though I hope we can because I think It's a waste ot money. And when you consider that we are tar better of! In submarines, miss!le-equ!pped, than the Soviet Union, tar better of! in bomber fleets and not too far behind In the field or emplaced m!ss! les, I think that the answer would be to try and achieve a stand-of! because we're both aware or the fact that If they're ever lOO&ed, these weapons, that It w!ll be tho end or both of us. MoNlloE. Do you belleve that the Administration Is !Oing after disarmament as vigorously as It should? MANSI'IELD. Yes, I do, not fast enough by any means, but I have 'a great deal or confidence In Gerard Smith, whom I know fairly well and whom I think Is doing his damnedest to try and reach an agreement With the Soviet Union. CLAltK. Senator Muskle came back !rom hls trip to Europe this past week with some, what he described as second thoughts about your plan for pulling American troops out ot Europe. Does that disturb you? You've on repeated occasions aald that you regard Senator Muskle as a front-runner tor the Democratic nomination. Is the question ot reducinc American forces In Europe serious enough to be Involved a.s an Issue In the Democratic contest tor the Presidential nomination? MANSFIELD. Well, I never question any Senator's motives. I'm sure that Ed Musk!e had reasons to make that statement which indicated that he was not against the removal, but that he wa.s reconsidering his po~~ltlon. But when you have 525,000 American military personnel and dependents In Weetern Europe a. quarter or a century a.!ter the end of the Second War, when you figure that out of the annual defense budget •a billion Is spent, would have been spent anyway, a !OOd pa.rt ot It even If they weren't there, when you think of the gold outflow, the dollar drain, the balance of payments, which a.re adverse to us, you'd better stop and do something. Basically, It Isn't the runes which concern me, It's a. matter ot J>rlnclple. And politicians do have principle. As long a.s a decade and a halt ago, I thought that these troops should be reduced. So did Eisenhower. And I think that fifty percent of the troops there today would be plenty because you could strip of! the fat, cut down the headquarters which are bulldlng on headquarters, cut down some of these installations Uke the Navy station In London a.nd elsewhere and be probably more effective a.t leas cost. I think also that the European nations themselves they're all better of! economically- ought to start bearing the brunt of the burden which Is theirs. CLARK. I, take It, then that you're not having any second thoughts as a result of Senator Muslde's defection. MANSI'IELD. Not a.t all, because I Intend to Introduce a. sense o! the Senate resolution and In an appropriate b!ll consider the possibility of amending It In line With my views. MANxu:wxcz. That would be to reduce our NATO commitment by 50 per cent. MANSI'IELD. To reduce them substantially, to leave the definition of the word substantially up to the Pre.s1dent, to stay In NATO because I think It Is vital to our security, but to bring about a reduotlon a.nd a skimming oft of the fat. MoNROE. Senator Mansfield, there's talk of ... MANSFIELD. Eisenhower Indicated that two dlvlslons would be plenty In Europe and he was quite a military man. MONROE. There's talk of the defense budget going up. Are the Democrats llkely to otier considerable opposition to that? MANSFIELD. Yes. The understanding Is, according to the press, that It will be raised $72 to $75 billion this year. We just can't keep on spending money like that when we have all these problems at home. I think we're spendIng too much money on exotic weapons. I think that there are weapons being produced today which are probably larger In supply than anywhere near necessary, and to use that now familiar word "reorientation," I think we ought to bring about a re-ordering or our priorities. Muon. Just one more question. When the President came up here last week, he did omit any mention or foreign pollcy. Do you think that was a bad precedent? MANSFIELD. No. I assume he had his reasons. He did say he was going to give us hls feelIngs, his measage on the Sts.te o! the World next month and the next month Isn't very tar away. No, I don't fault hlm for that. I would have liked to have heard something, especially about Cambodia, but it's understandable. CLARK. Senator, If we can turn to some problems on the homefront, your own homefront here In Congress, the seniority system, which ma.ny people regard as the greatest single evU In Congress a.nd the biggest roadblock to progress legislation, has come under the heaviest attack ever, probably, In the last few months, In the last year. There are !our Committee Chairmen in Congress, I belleve, who are eighty or over. There are eight or ten who are In their seventies. Isn't the seniority system going to have to topple If Congress Is to repair Its Image and give people the idea that it is ready to tackle the great problems !aclng the country? MANSFIELD. Well, isn't It remarkable how well the so-called seniority system has worked down through the decades of this Republic almost two centuries? There have been places here and there where there was need for correction. I think the seniority system should be overhauled. I'm not prepared a.s yet to say how far I Intend to go, but I do Intend to say that by a.nd large during the entire history of this Republic, It has worked overall exceedingly well. CLARK. Well, simply on the question of a.ge, Senator, would you have any rese~vatlons about that? MANSFIELD. Yes. CLARK. Would you set a. cut-oti, a.n age limit tor Committee Chairman? MANSFIELD. Well, really, I think we ought to set an age cut-of! tor Senators. CLARK. Are you thinking along the llnes of the proposal made by John Williams just before he left the Senate? MANSFIELD. Yes, Indeed. CLARK. And that would mean roughly that Senators couldn't run !or election after they were 65 years old. Is that it? MANSFIELD. Well, that's correct. It they ran before they were 65 a.nd got to 70 or 71 In the process, that would be understandable. CLARK. Do you plan to do anything to pursue this Idea? MANSFIELD. No. MANKIEWICZ. Senator, we've talked a.bout a number o! Issues this evening. I 'm thinkIng specifically or the ABM, Cambodia, a.nd I'm sure all of us here can think of others, on which your vote and your position ha.s sharply dif!ered from that or Senator Byrd ot West VIrginia who Is now your Assistant Majority Leader. Indeed It's hard to think of a major Issue In the Senate In the last few years on which you have not differed. Wlll you find that dll!lcult In terms or presenting the viewpoint of the party to the American people as the even numbered year approaches? MANSFIELD. No, I would sa.y that Bob Byrd and I have voted a good deal alike on labor mat ters, for example. There are other matters on which we've differed, but there Isn't a Senator In that chamber with whom I have not voted differently !rom on various occasions. But I look !or Bob Byrd to be flexible, to be understanding, to enter on his duties with a sense of dedication and understandIng. As far as the policy position Is concerned, that wlll be laid down by the policy committee as well as the regular committees or the Senate and during .the past two years, we have come forth unanimously with many positions on various matters which the Democratic caucus by and large has approved. MoNROE. Senator Mansfield, the President has put the Issue of reorganization of government before the people. He would l!ke some seven departments melded Into four. There's been some talk that the Congress might hesitate to do this because It would disturb the congressional committee structure which more or less parallels the government structure. Would the Congress hesitate on this basis and If so, wouldn't that be the tall wagging the dog? MANSFIELD. I would hope they wouldn't because I think that It Is a step In the right direction. I think we've become too topheavy In departments, bureaus, agencies and the llke. I'm not at all certain that It would be the answer. It may be just a conglomeration Into a few rather than the many, but this Is a proposal which should be considered by the Senate, by the Congress regardless of our personal !eel!ngs on the matter. I thlnk, I repeat, It's a step ln the right direction, but, by the same token, not only ls the argument which you've advanced potent, but also you'll find the greatest lobbying groups combined fightIng It, In my opinion, labor, agriculture, businessmen, and so forth. MONROE. Do you welcome the President's Initiative on this and a.re you likely to support him? MANSFIELD. Again, I want to see the specifics, but I think It's a move In the right direction. I thlnk we've been slap-happy in piling bureaus, agencies, and departments on one another. It's about tlme that we come up short and take notice. CLARK. Senator, wouldn't you agree, though, that the present massive reorganization program Is llkely to gather more dust than support ln this current Instance? MANSFIELD. I would, Still, I think that We ought to give the President, any president, the cons ideration ·of hearings, and If the legislation Is reported out of committee, taken up on the floor for consideration, debate and d isposal. CLARK. But wouldn't the process be to hear him out and turn him down? MANSFIELD. That I couldn't say. I would guess so, but I wouldn't know. Muon. Senator, you remember better than I the President's Inaugural Address of two years a.go. I would very much like to hear your views tonight of what you think the state of the Union ls. Do you think we've really advanced since the Inauguration of 1969? MANSFIELD. In Vietnam, yes. We've advanced In the right direction, out, at least In part. In Western Europe, no. At home I think some or the vetoes or programs by the President were lll-tlmed, lll-placed because the programs were attempts, In some Instances, based on his own recommendations, to face up to the problems confronting our people, both In the urban areas, In the field of health, In the fields of employment and In the ghettos. So It Isn't a.s good as I'd like It to be. MUDD. You described the vetoes as Illtimed. MANSFIELD. Yes, and Ill-placed. Muon. What I mean more than that Is just the splrlt In the country. MANSFIELD. I think the , .. MUDD. Has there been an Improvement? Mike Mansfield Papers, Series 21, Box 47, Folder 9, Mansfield Library, University of Montana FebTua'ry 9, 1971 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE s 737 MANSFIELD. No, I don't tbJnk 60. I think the people are still disturbed. I think on the campuses the situation has quieted down there, but with the unemployment and in· tl.atlon still running rampant despite a decrease In Interest rates and the llke, the people are uneasy, concerned, looking for lead· ershlp and guidance and looking to WashIngton for lt. MANKIEWICZ. Senator, 11 we could ask you a phllosopblcal question that might even go bRCk to your days as a professor of political science, the President has talked about the need for a prosperous economy In peacetime. He talks about tbJs as a transition from wartime to peacetime and there Is a suggestion there that perhaps there has been more over the years than we llke to admit to the Marx- 1st argument that a society such as ours can only have full employment and prosperity In a time of war. Do you tbJnk our economy can be prosperous and that we can have full employment without Inflation In peacetime with our present structure? MANSFII!:LD. Yes. I do. I don't know In what direction we will go as events develop, but certainly when you consider the needs of mankind, the increase In the population, the problems which confront us and the technlca~ know-how and skills which our people ha~e at the present time, I should think that with a little Ingenuity, those energies could be diverted to peacetime uses. I certainly deplore the fact that wars are believed to bring full employment. They don't always. We don't have it now and a war Is stlll in progress with no end In sight. It's a bad situation when any country, especially this country because this Is our country, has to depend upon a war for jobs CLARK. Senator, one Impression that spread during this last Congress and I know there are specific cases where this didn't apply, was that there were a lot of democrats in Congress who were not any more anxious than Republicans were to raise taxes and provide the money to come to grips with some of the great domestic problems that we face. MANSFIELD. That's true, but that's par for the course, because what you're seeing developing In the Congress. at least in the Senate, Is a coalition in reverse, a. coalition between the modern Republicans and the liberal Democrats on the one hand, which I tbJnk Is tar superior to the old time coalition of the Southerners and old line Republlcans. CLARK. Senator Goldwater back In 1964 when he was running for president suggested because of this very thing that there should be a basic realignment In polltlcal parties. MANsFIELD. Well, that's a nice theory, but ... CLARK. The liberals In one and conservatives In the other. MANsJI'IELD. You couldn't work It out and It's a Godsend, I think. that there are these dilf~rences In both parties. The Republicans are just feeling the rumblings In late years. We've felt them for decades, but I think It's gOOd for the country because It keeps alive the spirit of Independence and d1Jference and that's what It takes, I think, to keep a republic such as ours functioning. MANKIEWICZ. Well, you seem to feel, Senator, that this new combination of the liberal Democrats and the more modem liberal Republicans seems to you the coming force. The President has said, of course, and the VIce President has said, that the November elections give him an Ideological majority In at least the Senate and perhaps In the House as well. Do you agree with that or do you think this new coalition l.s going to upset It? MANsFIELD. Time w11.l tell. I don't agree with it. MoN"BOE. Senator, 1! you went back to tea.cbJng political science, would you teach It any differently than you UBed to? MANSFIELD. I wouldn't go back to teach It except on a seminar basis because these youngsters know a lot more than I do, or did, and I'd be a little fearful of going up against them, they're smart. I'm glad they got the 18-year-old vote. CLARK. You've been In Washington, been In the Senate since 1962, - believe, and In Washington Ianger than that. Have you ever thought that It might be more tun to try to come to grips with all these problems, try to solve them from the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue In the White House? MANSF'IELD. Never. MuDD. Senator, one quotation from t:.:e President's State of the Union was that America has been golllg through a long nightmare of war and division, crime and Inflation. We have gone through the long dark night or the American spirit, but now that night Is ending. Do you think It Is ending? MANSFIELD. I hope SO. But, again, time Will tell. There are Indications that It may be ending, the situation on the college campuses, for example. But there are other disturbing !actors which you have to weigh against them. I hope sincerely that the President's right, but I don't know. MoNROR. Do you have any problem, Senator Mansfield, In differentiating in your own mind whether you're talking as a partisan or as a statesman? Do you sometlm· 1 wish that you hadn't said a particular thing because In retrospect It sounded a little partisan and you wiShed you might have been a little more statesmanlike about It? MANSFIELD. Well, I'm not much of a partisan, and frank:y I don't know why I'm In this job, to tell. you the truth. MANKU:Wxcz. Is the: a suggestion that perhaps. have some of your colleagues suggested that you're In It perhaps because you're not that much of a partisan? MANSFIELD. Well, maybe It's because somebody has to keep the party together. CLARK. Senator, you were one of the chief sponsors of the bill, the amendment that gave the vote to 18-year-olds. MANSFIELD. Yes, Indeed. CLARK, Currently, do you think the Democrats are--realistically, do you think the Democrats are doing anything more to attract the youthful voter In the country than the Republicans are? MANSFIELD. Well, I don't think we should set out to attract them. We ought to prove by what we do, especially In the Congress, as to whether or not we are worth their support. These youngsters are smart. They know what's going on. I'm delighted to see them come In because they'll bring In new blOOd, new vitality, new Ideas. I think we could use some of their naivete and tbey could replace many or us who are looking to the past, to things which were good two or three decades ago and which we think are still gOOd today. These youngstem are coming Into a new role. I'm delighted they're coming ln. I want them In the system and only In that way will the necessary reforms be made. CLARK. But, Senator, you talk about you can prove by what you do In Congress, and yet the younger Democratic leaders In the leadership battles In the House and Senats were shut out altogether this yCIU'. You ended up with Carl Albert and Hale Boggs and Bob Byrd In the Senate. Is that the way to appeal to youthful voters? MANSl'IELD. Well, those tbJngs are Internal matters In both houses of the Congress. I think It's the overall record of the Congress wbJch ts going to determine how effective we are as Democrats In relation to the young people coming ln. MUDD. But how ca.n you say that that's an Internal matter, Senator? This 1.s a national party appealing to the country, MANSFIELD. That's right. But when you bring In new om~rs or displace older ones, that is something which Is done Internally for o. variety of reasons, the origin of which I know not. MANKn:wxcz Do you have any Idea of how these 18-year-olds, 18, 19 and 20-year-olds are going to vote? Have you got any guess on which way they're going? M•NSFIELD. Well, 1 hope they vote Democratic, but they tell me when they gave the British the 18-year-old vote, they voted Conservative. MoNRoE. Senator, how do you manage to be Majority Leader of the Democrats In this particular Senate and not be ambitious to run for President? MANsFIELD. Oh, I'm t~ old. I have no ambitions and I'm very satisfied where I am. The greatest job Is being a Senator from the State of Montana. MANKIEWICZ. Senator, I'm afraid our time Is up. My colleagues and I want to thank you very much for sharing this time with us this evening. M•NSFIELD. Well, thank you, gentlemen. And I want you to know that I enjoyed this very much. Mike Mansfield Papers, Series 21, Box 47, Folder 9, Mansfield Library, University of Montana
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The Senate met at 11: 15 a.m., on the expiration of the recess, and was called to order by the President pro tempore (Mr. ELLENDER). The Chaplain, the Reverend Edward L. R. Elson, D.D., offered the following prayer: We commend to Thee, 0 Lord, all who are en~aceli in the Government of this Nation. Grant to them integrity of purpose and unfailing devotion to the cause of ri~hteousness. May all their legislation be such as will promote the welfare of the people, succor the poor, relieve the oppressed, brine- new opportunities to the under.J?rivile&"ed, correct bad policies and reduce social wrongs, to Thy glory and the good e~ample of the people, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen. THE JOURNAL Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr.. President, I ask unanimous consent that the Journal of the proceedings of Tuesday, February 2, 1971, be approved. The PRESIDENT pro tempore. Without objection, it is so ordered. COMMITTEE MEETINGS DURING SENATE SESSION Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President', I ask unanimous consent that all committees be authorized to meet during the session of the Senate today. The PRESIDENT pro tempore. Without objection, it is so ordered. A CONVERSATION WITH THE MAJORITY LEADER Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, on January 26, the TV networks very generously made available a substantial amount of time for congressional Democrats to set forth views on current issues. I agreed to make this appearance, with the concurrence of the Senate Democratic conference and the distinguished Speaker of the House (Mr. ALBERT) whom I wou1d have preferred to have seen speaking for the Democrats as he can so ably do, but who was unable because of a previous ironclad commitment to undertake the telecast at the time. I want to make clear that while the occasion was billed as a "Democratic state of the Union message" it was not so intended. There is only one person who can deliver a state of the Union message in this Nation and that is the President of the United States, whoever he may be. It is both his constitutional prerogative and his responsibility as the sole political representative of the Nation as a whole. I would not presume to intrude on either that right or that responsibility. He speaks for the Nation on the state of the Senate WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 3, 1971


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A Hanover County woman has been charged with reckless driving in an accident that killed a state trooper from Southwest Virginia.
27-year-old Angelica Valencia of Doswell has been charged with reckless driving.
She was driving a car that hit Trooper Andrew Fox on Oct. 5 while he was directing traffic for the Virginia State Fair. Fox was wearing a reflective traffic vest.
Investigators say Valencia was headed east on Route 30 through the intersection when her car hit Fox. Troopers and several bystanders ran to the SUV and lifted it off Fox. Two troopers and several bystanders lifted the SUV off Fox. He was taken to VCU Medical Center in Richmond where he died.
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A Hanover County woman has been charged in last month's death of Virginia State Police Trooper Andrew D. Fox. At the direction of the Hanover County Commonwealth's Attorney, state police Wednesday (Nov. 7) charged Angelica C. Valencia, 27, of Doswell, Va., with one count of reckless driving.
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Featured amenities include a computer station, currency exchange, and computer rentals. Planning an event in Budapest? This apartment has facilities measuring 108 square feet (10 square meters), including a meeting/conference room. For a surcharge, guests may use a roundtrip airport shuttle (available on request) and a cruise ship terminal shuttle.Information missing or incorrect? Tell us!
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Guests can grab coffee at one of the apartment's 2 coffee shops/cafés. A bar/lounge is on site where guests can unwind with a drink. Event facilities measuring 108 square feet (10 square meters) include a meeting/conference room. For a surcharge, the property provides an area shuttle within 100 km and a roundtrip airport shuttle (available on request). This Mid-century Modern apartment also offers a health club, a nightclub, and a rooftop terrace. Tour/ticket assistance, currency exchange, and tour assistance can be provided. Guests can use the indoor pool, health club, and recreational facilities at a partner hotel.
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- Airport transportation (surcharge)
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- Number of floors - 5
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- Number of buildings/towers - 4
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- Individually furnished
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Continental breakfasts are available for a surcharge and are served each morning in the restaurant between 8 AM and 1 PM.
Bohem Tanya Restaurant - This restaurant specializes in Hungarian cuisine and serves lunch and dinner. Reservations are required.
Minyon Bar and Restaurant - This restaurant specializes in international cuisine and serves lunch, dinner, and light fare. Guests can enjoy drinks at the bar.
In-room dining choices include lunch, dinner, late night fare, and light snacks, available from room service (during limited hours).
- Recreation
The recreational activities listed below are available either on site or nearby; fees may apply.
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Special requests are subject to availability upon check-in and may incur additional charges. Special requests cannot be guaranteed.
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- The following fees and deposits are charged by the property at time of service, check-in, or check-out.
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- Breakfast fee: EUR 5 per person (approximately)
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- Pet fee: EUR 10 per pet (varies based on length of stay)
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Stolen iPhone5 Recovered with FindMyIphone
I got a call last night at 1am from my daughter that someone stole her iPhone 5 off her table while she was out with some friends. She tried to call it but it was turned off. We went on FindMyIphone and locked it, and started tracking it over about a 10 mile trip. She called the police, who came to her house and watched it, while dispatching someone to the area. The phone stopped at a gas station. The police went there and apprehended the thief, and got her iPhone back to her, safe and sound about 4am.
Ain't technology amazing!!! And of course, the responsive and wonderful police officers that got it done!
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|Jan 14, 2013, 08:33 AM
iPhone Cardinal Rules
Over the years I have developed a set of cardinal rules regarding iPhones. They can be applied to any smartphone... but since myself and a lot of my friends are Apple fans... I call them my iPhone Cardinal Rules. It is very simple. Following them has caused me to never lose or misplace an iPhone.
Cardinal Rule #1.
If your iPhone isn't in your hand, it's in your pocket.
Cardinal Rule #2.
If your iPhone isn't in your pocket it's in your hand.
There are only 2 exceptions to Cardinal Rule #2.
#1 Exception:
If you are home, your iPhone can be left at your charge/sync area to charge or sync if that is consistently the same place you charge/sync. Don't constantly move your charger around your house.
#2 Exception:
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I recite these rules to friends who leave their phones on the table while enjoying a meal at the restaurant. By doing this, you are just asking for a drink to spill on your phone or to just forget it when you pay your bill and leave.
Another one for guys is leaving it on the top of a urinal toilet while going to the bathroom. Why not just stick it in your pocket while you take a pee?
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|Jan 14, 2013, 08:36 AM
Great rules, that my daughter now gets! She had her wallet, keys, and phone laying on the table, and she said she was an arms reach away. Her wallet had $300 cash in it. This could have been a lot worse, and she learned a lesson for only losing a nights sleep.
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|Jan 14, 2013, 08:53 AM
so who took the phone?
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|Jan 14, 2013, 08:56 AM
Was it wait staff or was it just someone random at the place she was at?
Seems like a happy ending nonetheless.
Because I'm a smartass.
|Jan 14, 2013, 10:32 AM
Glad everything worked out in the end. But, how does track my iPhone work? You said the phone was off, but how can you track it when it is off?
|Jan 14, 2013, 10:37 AM
It was not anyone connected with the place they were at. The guy was from a different state and he was on foot when they caught him. Claimed his buddy gave him the phone and he didn't know it was stolen... and they got in an argument in the cab and he got left on the curb. The path on the map kind of fits that description, but who gives their buddy an iPhone 5?
I can't believe the guy left her case on it.
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|Jan 14, 2013, 11:20 AM
Your daughter is lucky.
My wife handed my 2 year old her 4s to keep her busy at the grocery store. I had just talked to her.
Within 15 minutes I call back and it goes straight to VM (it's off).
She calls me, frantic, from a friends phone (she bumped into her at the store) and I come up to the store.
It's gone....
Within 15 minutes of me talking to her it was lost, found, turned off -- never to be seen (by us) again.
Moral of the story: It's a horribly expensive (and to some people, very important in their day-to-day lives) device, not a toy.
|Jan 14, 2013, 11:21 AM
U got very lucky. When an app designed for tracking a missing phone can be disabled by shutting the phone off, something's wrong. At least have it so if u have ur device set up with a password, u can't turn it off without entering the password. You can also disable by removing the SIM card, or by simply turnibg off the function if phone isnt password protected. but that's a different story. Bottom line is more times then not, find my phone is pretty useless.
And one other "cardinal rule" would be to ALWAYS have a password set on ur device.
|Jan 14, 2013, 11:28 AM
It would be cool to have a password lock before turning off the phone actually. Some of my bastard friends turn off my phone when I'm not looking and I miss out on calls.
But yea, she got her phone back, that's all that matters!
|Jan 14, 2013, 11:40 AM
My advice on this is to do the following:
- Make sure you know your iCloud credentials for all your Apple devices. We share an appleid, but each has their own iCloud ID... and I don't know them off the top of my head.
- Always have a password on the device.
- Never lay your iDevice on a table in a public place, or leave it even for an instant anywhere other than in your own home.
- If it turns out to be missing, I think acting quick is really key in having a chance of recovery. You can set it to "lost" and that lets you set a password if one wasn't already set. Then start tracking if it is active. The longer period of time that goes by, I think the changes are slim at finding it.
- Call the police for help.
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|Jan 14, 2013, 02:57 PM
|Jan 14, 2013, 03:02 PM
I'm glad your story had a happy ending. You are very luck in that the police were willing & able to work with you. In this area cell phones are stolen/ lost so much that I can't imagine any police office taking the time to track one down on the spot. That's great to hear that it worked out for you and your daughter.
A good mix of both black and white gadgets.
|Jan 14, 2013, 03:04 PM
The police wouldn't follow FindMyiPhone when my wife's iPhone 4S was stolen last summer.
|Jan 14, 2013, 03:04 PM
|Jan 14, 2013, 03:14 PM
|Jan 14, 2013, 05:50 PM
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|Jan 14, 2013, 05:54 PM
Technology is wonderful but it doesn't work for everybody.
A national, if not worldwide database of stolen phones (and enforced) then everybody knows it's no use to steal a phone. But of course NOOOOOoooooo.
Solution: FREE, Explanation: Is gonna cost ya.
|Jan 14, 2013, 06:13 PM
|Jan 14, 2013, 06:18 PM
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|Jan 14, 2013, 06:43 PM
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|Jan 14, 2013, 07:44 PM
-How would the police know who had the phone. Did they stop every person at the gas station and check them? (or house, or apartment or what ever the location is for a particular similar story) Police can't enter pockets or force someone to empty their pockets unless they are under arrest. They can only pat a person down if they simply want to ensure their safety during a face to face. (if they do then that's their get out of jail free card). I didn't read all of OP's posts but I didn't see anything in the first post that said he played "sound" you can do when you're on FMi.
-I have family members with different agencies around the country and I have asked if they would "track" someones phone and they simply laughed. Maybe this police force has nothing better to do but I know in Miami, Orlando, Denver, I was told they don't have time or resources for such things.
-Why suspect a person stole the phone? Just because someone has something doesn't mean they stole it. I have picked up items and later found their owner to return said item.
-Police would have no reason to suspect this person stole the phone. I guess the could arrest them for being in posession of the phone but any $2 lawyer would get a person off on that. "Officer, I found this on the bus and was going to try and find the owner in the morning.... No I never heard it ring as it was in my (pocket, backpack, briefcase) and I was wearing headphones." Unless there is a "He grabbed it out of my hand while kicking my butt" story to go along with the "stolen" phone, I'm not sure an arrest would go very far.
I'm not saying OP is lying I simply stating these are the questions I ask myself with EVERY one of these stories. Want to call me cynical? I have no problem with that.
Glad it worked out for OP and his daughter.
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Well, I suppose Keisha was the obvious one to save of the two, but can anyone tell me what I am missing with Niamh and Samatha? I just do not see what they have either vocally or performance-wise... Surely Nancy is as much acting as singing (if not more) so why does it always have to be about the song on the night. The panel can get the result they want just by issuing the song to the performer. Are they scared to use MT songs ar is it pandering to a Saturday night TV audience that we have to have "pop"?
I'm sure it's pandering to the audience. Most of the audience know almost nothing about musical theatre, so the show offers them songs they can sing along with rather than stuff they've never heard.
I don't believe it when Andrew Lloyd Webber says "I'm judging it on this performance". They already know which of the contestants are inferior, so I suspect that out of sight of the cameras it's a matter of "This one has the acting talent of a spoon; if you get the chance to get rid of her grab it with both hands" or "Keep that one in whatever it takes". The whole point of the sing-off is to give the show a chance to save an otherwise promising candidate from the consequences of a poor public response, so it would be stupid to base the elimination on a single song.


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