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They r awsome I used them for my Dad's Balloon Release this year. We did it @ night it is awsome.
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Balloons have great impact. However difficult to operate. Many of the balloons popped when inflating. About 20% of the balloons would leak. Needs improving. Cost does not match the overall performance of these balloons. But they do have great impact.
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we got red white blue. white were terrible,many did not work, blue was best and showed best. mustinflate to pear shape for lights to set right. we lost about 25% due to light not working and a fewpops. those that worked, especially the blue showed up beautifully when it got dark. a little frustrating. definitely not as pictured!
should have been a great decoration
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These balloons are a great idea and when they work, they really draw attention. About 4 out of the whole bunch worked properly and the balloon lit up nicely. The rest of them only the neck of the balloon was lit and didn't show up in the blown up balloon.
Too much of a hassle
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Too much of a hassle. It practically took two people to figure out how to get the balloons inflated and insert the lights. The light device had sharp corners and tore the balloons. Needed the decoration for the Govenors Inauguration. Ended up not using. Total waste of money. I would not recommend this item to anyone.
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Oregon saw 54 extreme weather records broken in 2012
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The Natural Resources Defense Council released and interactive map showing extreme weather events nationwide and by state. Click here to see the map and check out the data behind it.
The Natural Resources Defense Council on Tuesday released an interactive map documenting extreme weather events in 2012 on a state-by-state level.
The group found that nationwide 3,527 monthly weather records for heat, rain and snow were broken — 54 of them in Oregon.
The council reports that 10 Oregon counties saw record-breaking heat resulting in 15 new records. Thirteen counties saw record-breaking rainfall resulting in 28 new records. In addition nine counties had record-breaking snow with 11 new records set. The state also had 48 sizable wildfires.
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From students' scores to athletics to co-curricular activities and events, the 2007-2008 school year was a mega-success at St. Bernard Parish School in the heart of Wauwatosa! Below is just a glimpse of the many accomplishments of the parish school this past year.As expected, St. Bernard School students did extremely well on WKCE-CRT and Iowa Basics Standardized Testing. Parents, administration, faculty, and parishioners are so proud of the students! The eighth grade girls' and boys' basketball teams did well and had fun in the Padre Serra Tournament in March. The boys' team even advanced to the "Sweet 16" of this special, historic tourney. Hats off to all of our athletes: from physical education with Mr. Palachek, to girls' and boys' volleyball, and, of course, basketball.
Our middle school forensics team led by Mrs. Keelan, and Mrs. Gebhard, was a run-away success! The team of boys and girls took THIRD IN STATE for small schools! Awesome job done by all! What hard work and talent was shown by these youngsters! Your talents are true gifts.
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QUESTION OF THE WEEK: What other fine accomplishments are our St. Bernard graduates up to these days? Go ahead, brag about your kid, brag about yourself! No one will tell. :)
St Bernard School will once again be in the Wauwatosa Independence Day Parade! We will be sporting red, white or blue shirts while walking with our float.
We are honored to walk with special St Bernard parishoner, Dick Eisenhouer, Packer Hall of Fame Fan of 2007.
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Pink is one of many artists featured on T.I.'s new album. A$AP Rocky, Cee Lo Green, Lil Wayne, Andre 3000, and Kelly Rowland are all featured on T.I.'s Trouble Man: Heavy Is The Head, due out December 18.
I personally love seeing unexpected artist collaborations such as this one. I always wonder, whose idea was it? Was T.I. sitting there one day and was like, "That P!NK chick is kinda fierce...."
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Fresh Plum Crumb Dessert Recipe
- 7 large plums, pitted and quartered
- 1/2 cup packed brown sugar
- 3 tablespoons plus 1 cup King Arthur Unbleached All-Purpose Flour, divided
- 1 teaspoon ground cinnamon
- 1 cup sugar
- 1 teaspoon baking powder
- 1/4 teaspoon salt
- 1/4 teaspoon ground mace
- 1 egg, lightly beaten
- 1/2 cup butter, melted
- In a large bowl, combine the plums, brown sugar, 3 tablespoons flour and cinnamon. Spoon into a greased 2-qt. baking dish.
- In a small bowl, combine the sugar, baking powder, salt, mace and remaining flour. Add egg; stir with a fork until crumbly. Sprinkle over plum mixture. Drizzle with butter.
- Bake at 375° for 40-45 minutes or until plums are tender and top is golden brown. Cool for 10 minutes before serving. Serve warm or at room temperature. Yield: 8 servings.
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If I could give this 6 stars I would! I had never had baked plums before and was a little hesitant to try it, but had a plethora of extra plums. I know I will make this again and again because my family and I couldn't stop eating it. Delicious! Like other reviews I used nutmeg in place of mace because it's what I had on hand.
We were given wild plums from a friend's plum tree, more than we could eat before they would go bad, so I searched for a recipe I could use them in and came across this one. It was a HUGE hit with my whole family! I followed the tips that ninnielee8 gave in her review and also used nutmeg in place of the mace. I will definitely be sharing this recipe and asking our friend for more plums! Thank you Janet Fahrenbruck-Lynch for sharing this amazing dessert!
This was very good, but I had to guess on the volume of plums. I had already sliced plums from the box of "seconds" that I got at a farmer's market. I guessed that 7 large plums would be about a quart of plums; I guessed too high. If you are using pre-sliced plums, use between 2.5 and 3 cups, not in excess of 4. My 2 quart pan (7x11) overflowed all over my oven, set off the smoke detector, and smoked a lot. OR, if you do use 4 cups of sliced plums, make sure you use a 3 quart or 9x13 pan! Enjoy!
This was THE HIT at our big BBQ this weekend. I've never cooked with plums before. I had a box of plums I'd bought, and it looked like they were going to go to waste until I came across this recipe. It was delicious. Everyone chose it over brownies, chocolate pie, and lemon pie. I felt like the belle of the ball! Everyone just went on and on about how delicious it was. I didn't melt the butter, but rather cut it into the flour/sugar/mace mixture and crumbled it over the plums. Best "crust" ever. Also, I just placed the cut plums (skin down) in my buttered dish and mashed the brown sugar mixture into and onto the plums rather than mix it with the plums. I will definitely be making this any time I can get my hands on plums!!!!!
This recipe is fabulous and so simple! In June the plum tree in my front yard this year offered up an unusually healthy crop and I set about baking something every day to take advantage of my good fortune. I made first this Fresh Plum Crumb Dessert and then proceeded to make an array of plum cobbler, plum crumbcake, and plum bundt cakes. After all of that I have to say that this Fresh Plum Crumb Dessert is definitely my favorite--so much so that I continued to make it over and over again every few days (as soon as we could consume it) to keep pace with all the available plums. I am writing this after making this recipe for the seventh time! It's just that good and that simple! Absolutely best warm with creamy vanilla ice cream. This recipe's a real keeper! I still have enough plums for at least three more....Love it! I'm so glad I found this recipe!


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So Richard Spertzel, former U.N. weapons inspector, had this to say in WSJ:
Information released by the FBI over the past seven years indicates a product of exceptional quality. The product contained essentially pure spores. The particle size was 1.5 to 3 microns in diameter. There are several methods used to produce anthrax that small. But most of them require milling the spores to a size small enough that it can be inhaled into the lower reaches of the lungs. In this case, however, the anthrax spores were not milled.
What's more, they were also tailored to make them potentially more dangerous. According to a FBI news release from November 2001, the particles were coated by a "product not seen previously to be used in this fashion before." Apparently, the spores were coated with a polyglass which tightly bound hydrophilic silica to each particle. That's what was briefed (according to one of my former weapons inspectors at the United Nations Special Commission) by the FBI to the German Foreign Ministry at the time.
Another FBI leak indicated that each particle was given a weak electric charge, thereby causing the particles to repel each other at the molecular level. This made it easier for the spores to float in the air, and increased their retention in the lungs.
Um, no. I'll trust a peer-reviewed assessment over some policy-pressurized briefing, thank you.
According to the FBI scientist who analyzed the anthrax letters, Douglas Beecher, it was NOT "weaponized." He published this in Applied and Environmental Microbiology in 2006.
Individuals familiar with the compositions of the powders in the letters have indicated that they were comprised simply of spores purified to different extents (6). However, a widely circulated misconception is that the spores were produced using additives and sophisticated engineering supposedly akin to military weapon production. This idea is usually the basis for implying that the powders were inordinately dangerous compared to spores alone (3, 6, 12; J. Kelly, Washington Times, 21 October 2003; G. Gugliotta and G. Matsumoto, The Washington Post, 28 October 2002). The persistent credence given to this impression fosters erroneous preconceptions, which may misguide research and preparedness efforts and generally detract from the magnitude of hazards posed by simple spore preparations.
Purification of spores may exacerbate their dissemination to some extent by removing adhesive contaminants and maximizing the spore concentration. However, even in a crude state, dried microbial agents have long been considered especially hazardous. Experiments mimicking laboratory accidents have demonstrated that simply breaking vials of lyophilized bacterial cultures creates concentrated and persistent aerosols (4, 8). The potential for propagating disease with crude lyophilized material is illustrated by an outbreak of 24 cases of Venezuelan equine encephalitis throughout three floors of a Moscow virology institute. These infections were caused when vials containing dried infected mouse brain were accidentally broken on a stairwell landing and were spread by air currents and foot traffic (11).
Can we just put this to rest? Dry it, grind it up. It's good enough for envelope dissemination. Poof!
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About a week ago, many media in Sweden reported on three employees at Volvo Powertrain in Skövde, who were said to have been forced to leave the company because of negative comments about their workplace that they had made on Facebook.
Platooning may be the new way of travelling on motorways in as little as ten years' time. The EU-financed SARTRE project has carried out the first successful demonstration of its technology at the Volvo Proving Ground close to Gothenburg, Sweden.
All Brisbane sites have fortunately avoided any serious impacts as a result of the flood, however the situation for many of Volvo's employees is still unclear.
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 05:58 AM
Jaclaz - to bad you didn't make that statement and make it clear for us "n00b" fools", or should I phrase that 'THIS "n00b" fool', a long time ago...... no, now that I think of it, you would have had to climb down your ladder to floor level, maybe even have to go into the basement, to answer it that way.
To both of you - My sincerest apologies for wasting your time with a question that was really uncalled for on a forum like this that only calls to upper level, excuse me, the highest level, computer experts.
(i can't wait to see the replies to this one....... or should i bother...........)
Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:22 AM
was as plain as possible both in the terms used and in the concepts, and I don't see it as coming from any presumed "upper level" or "ladder", it represents a set of plain statements, coming from someone that not only - as it has later become evident - found those same facts before you did, but additionally provided relevant links/info specifically targeted to the matter leading to a possible solution.
The ability to put a pagefile on a USB stick is determined by a number of things (ways the OS "sees" the device).
What I find very strange (besides what you want to achieve) is what you report.
A "normal" MS NT based OS won't allow having a pagefile on an "external" disk, let alone a "removable" one.
To allow this normally a filter driver is used, see here for DiskMod:
which comes also in a 64 bit version, though tested only on later systems (Vista and 7) AFAICR.
It is not like I posted (and I actually could have posted this , though I did NOT ):
nor I did post (and again I could have done that) post a link to the known chocolate-covered banana issue:
You dumb n00b! It's not possible to have a pagefile on a USB stick!
Where the heck did you learn that absurd notion?
I mantain that what was posted was:
- accurate
- written in plain enough English
- providing you a correct answer to the question you asked
As I see it the actual issue is/was simply that you were (BTW in perfect good faith ) so positively confident in your experience (both in the specific matter and in your general experience as machine language programmer or whatever) that you didn't contemplate in the least the possibility that your initial statement was the effect of your perceptions being deceived by the Virtual Memory control panel and more generally by the XP OS behaviour.
In another place, in another time, this was actually pre-coded in "Common Sense Advice", JFYI, point #f4.:
You may also want to notice how I never stated a particular experience in anything, nor a particular "superior" state (possibly the board "status" of Developer and the 10,000+ posts speak by themselves to this regard) whilst you stated:
and I used to be able to program in 8 different machine languages...........
so, if someone has attempted to, directly or indirectly, provide "credentials" to support his statements, and more loosely "self position" himself at a given level, that has not been me.
And I'm not a NOOB, I've been building and working with computers since the early 80's.
To be fair, you did post:
which is exactly what has been demonstrated by the evolution of this thread, notwithstanding your good experience on other (albeit similarly technically oriented) fields/topics, you knew nothing about pagefiles and Virtual Memory and were tricked by the behaviour of the OS.
Just because I have never had a previous need to dig into the firmware of them only makes me uneducated with the firmware, not the whole thing. A person can build many systems, put a 20-year-old company on computer using a network ( a 2 wire network), rewrite programs, create maps for games, decipher and enlarge a game ( http://www.sidmeiers....net/portal.php ), and much more, without knowing what a 'pagefile' is and never having played in the Windows Registry.
But now everything is (hopefully) clear and "cool", if any feathers were ruffled, they have been smoothed down again, and outside (at least here) though cold, the sun in shining....
Edited by jaclaz, 13 November 2012 - 07:23 AM.
Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:11 AM
The first 5 replies did not try to answer my question, they simply said the drive may not meet the required specs, doing so would be a big error, RAM is a way to do it, something about a small partition, and sacrificing a USB device.
Your reply then states that "The ability to put a pagefile on a USB stick is determined by a number of things (ways the OS "sees" the device)." which appears to be a partial explanation, then the strangeness of what I'm wanting to do and then that the OS won't allow me to do what I had done (in appearance on my system)
I then get attacked for my silly choice of words.
And it tends to go on and on.
Then, when I figure out where the OS is actually storing the pagefile.sys that it shows on the VM screen it is putting on the USB card, I get a "DUUUUHHHHHH, that's what I've been telling you all along"
I'm the administrator of a forum myself, and I have learned from experience what I stated years ago: (referring to map making) Sometimes, people like you and I tend to forget what we had to go thru when we first did these . "It is so simple that it just couldn't have been hard and what is this guys problem that he can't seem to just whip those maps out?"
Do not expect everyone to know and understand everything you do. Explain yourself. To say "What you are doing cannot be done, believe me" don't get it. Why can it not be done, and what is really happening would simplify things greatly. Sort of what a n00b like me did after I took the time to look into exactly what my system was doing as far as placement of the pagefile.sys
Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:17 AM
jaclaz and I have also had a "go" before and it actually means... NOTHING!!! We have the highest respect for each other. BTW, I know more MAINFRAME languages than you, but it does NOT mean I may know more HARDWARE than you, nor does it mean I am BETTER at said languages than you. There is something called SHARING INFO - be aware that SOME of it may be erroneous (as you found out) on either end.
In view of that, just let it go and pay more attention to the information and the phrasing (don't be touchy)...
P.S. VM is "kind of" a misnomer in general context - you mean it as "Virtual Memory", I use it as "Virtual Machine". I've always referenced it as Paging File, since this term is also applicable to Mainframes (ye olde IBM monsters). Also, one may have (erroneously) "assumed" since you're not a "n00b' that you would have known about the Explorer settings...
Welcome to our world.
edit - hi-lited a key point...
edit2 - clarification - LOGICALLY, the Page File can't "exist" on a Device that won't exist until defined (USB drivers loaded)... true? Hence the "filters"...
Edited by submix8c, 13 November 2012 - 09:22 AM.
Posted 13 November 2012 - 10:47 AM
... possibly because jaclaz hinted the procedure to do this kind of tests....
Sort of what a n00b like me did after I took the time to look into exactly what my system was doing as far as placement of the pagefile.sys
To hopefully close this issue, once and for all, my post was not meant to be an "everything you ever wanted to know about pagefile and Virtual Memory and you never dared to ask" kind of post/tutorial/guide, it was a simple, plain answer to the question you asked, meant as a three step procedure:
- hinting the possibility that your initial beliefs were not entirely correct:
What I find very strange (besides what you want to achieve) is what you report.
- stating the actual facts:
The ability to put a pagefile on a USB stick is determined by a number of things (ways the OS "sees" the device).
A "normal" MS NT based OS won't allow having a pagefile on an "external" disk, let alone a "removable" one.
- providing a possible solution or anyway iinformation corroborating the previously exposed facts:
To allow this normally a filter driver is used, see here for DiskMod:
which comes also in a 64 bit version, though tested only on later systems (Vista and 7) AFAICR.
Now, re-reading the post for the nth time, following your critics on it, I am actually patting myself on the shoulder for having been able to sum up so well in a few lines all the essential points.
Now let's play "what if" ....
- Could I have been more verbose and explicit? Yes .
- Am I actually obliged by signed agreement to be more verbose and explicit when attempting to help people for free on the forum? No.
- Could you have been more "open" to suggestions (since you came here asking for them)? Yes .
- Could you have been more convinced (as said I believe in perfect good faith) of your experience with Virtual Memory? No.
- Was such experience with Virtual Memory on 32 bit XP representing actual facts? No.
Now, that is anyway the past, the actual issue has been cleared, let's get over it, OK?
Edited by jaclaz, 13 November 2012 - 10:50 AM.
Posted 15 November 2012 - 02:02 AM
Foreign language? There's not a single word not in English in the thread jaclaz pointed you to.
@snoopy55: No I wasn't trying to be funny. You see, even if it was clear to me that you meant "not English" by "foreign language" and my reply is consistent with that understanding, and despite the fact that, way too many moons ago, when I actually lived in the US, I did hear "foreign language" meaning "ununderstandable" numerous times, I had actually forgotten "foreign language" can actually have this latter meaning, so it eluded myself completely that that was what you meant, and hence I did express my perplexity at your comment. Sorry. I should have thought about it longer before posting that reply, and perhaps it would have dawned on me what your comment was intended to mean. Then again, you failed to realize many of those replying to you, me included, are *not* native speakers of English, no matter whether we can express ourselves well in it or not, so that, in fact, for us at least, English actually *is* a foreign language... MSFN is actually a truly international forum that uses English as the common communication language!
dencorso, am I to take it you are attempting to be funny there?
Just in case you are not.........
"I looked over the two sites you listed and there is to much foreign language there for me." The 'foreign language' reference is older than I am. I used it because of the fact that a foreign language is not something I can understand, and since I cannot understand what was posted on that site, it is like a foreign language to me.
[/off topic]
And, BTW, since I didn't say it before, welcome to MSFN!
Posted 15 November 2012 - 03:03 AM
That's Greek to me or It's (all) Greek to me is an idiom/dead metaphor in English, expressing that something is not understandable.
>From John Phillip Mustachio of Houston, this excerpt from the trial
testimony of the plaintiff, whose first language is Greek.
Q. What I'm trying to do, Mr. Emmanonil, is to show that you have quite a
bit of experience in owning and operating real estate, do you not?
A. No. The only one experience I have is just to - to know how is the
valuable of the land is going to go up or down. That's I'm good only. But
legal phrase like this one, I'm zero. Like I say earlier, I have gift know
when is good piece of land or not. The rest of this stuff it's English to me.
Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:35 AM
@snoopy55, I don't know if jaclaz, or anyone, knew that 32bit XP would "allow" you to choose a non-valid drive for the paging file and then outright LIE to you about where it actually was, leading you to your mistaken impression that started this whole thread. I sure didn't know that. jaclaz was correct in post #9 when he stated that 'A "normal" MS NT based OS won't allow having a pagefile on an "external" disk, let alone a "removable" one.', then Ponch came the closest to your situation in post #13 when he actually tried what you had done and then said "all 4 volumes (2 on the HDD) appear in Virtual Memory settings, but ... there is no new file on that key". But yet no one came out and said that what is shown in the Virtual Memory settings control panel is not guaranteed to be accurate. I'm sure if anyone who responded to this thread knew that they would have said so and cleared things up long ago. So as it is, regardless of how argumentative the thread became, I believe we all owe you thanks for helping us all learn something. At least I do.
Cheers and Regards
Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:08 AM
Well, I can assure you that jaclaz did know about that (for XP 32 bit) AND posted a number of external sources in #18 to that effect, the actual behaviour might be slightly different depending on a number of factors, but the simple description in post #24 should be accurate enough.
I don't know if jaclaz, or anyone, knew that 32bit XP would "allow" you to choose a non-valid drive for the paging file and then outright LIE to you about where it actually was, leading you to your mistaken impression that started this whole thread. I sure didn't know that.
But if you think a bit about it, set aside the foolish (and deceiving ) way that MS used to implement the Virtual Memory Control Panel and the mechanism, the "decision" to NOT put the pagefile.sys on an "external" device makes a lot of sense.
The pagefile.sys is "hooked" at boot time (and thus changes to it require a re-boot), what will happen if you have a pagefile.sys on a USB stick or HD and you decide "mid-session" to disconnect it?
You have to consider that while nowadays a pagefile, and much more than that a pagefile 1.5 to 2 times the size of RAM is rarely (please read as "almost never") used if not if there is an issue with the system, like an app going beserk and eating all the RAM, or if there is a crash and a dumpcheck is created, in times of machines with 256 or 512 Mb and possibly 1 Gb of memory it was very frequent that it got "hit".
As a matter of fact - and I don't want to start yet another "is pagefile needed/no it is not" or "it must be 1.5 or 2 tiimes the RAM/No, that makes no sense" usual flamewars - I have machines with "enough" memory that run OK since years without a pagefile set.
There are few things as "personal" as the choice on how exactly to set a pagefile :
And it is often used by IT admins as one of those stories you tell kids around the fire or fireplace in a rainy winter evening :
Back to the topic of having a pagefile on something that you can remove "live", more or less on a low memory machine you would be telling to a booted system that it has available 256+512 Mb of memory and after it is "convinced" of this you can (by accident) hot-unplug 2/3 of memory..... as one of the given liks states kernels tend to like not this kind of tricks.
The actuall DiskMod filter driver was developed for a specific use, when you actually boot from USB and you may have two different kind of problems:
- no pagefile.sys at all because the machine has no suitable "internal" disk
- "polluting" an internal disk filesystem with a pagefile.sys automatically generated
Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:48 AM
Thanks. It was more than implied in that post of mine (read full post). In fact, I still don't understand what else Snoopy55 was thinking to have achieved. To change that setting, you need to click on an "Advanced" tab twice. I'm still confused how advanced his knowledge of virtual memory is as the very first (if not the only) thing most people know about that setting is that it changes the place and size of the "Pagefile.sys", yet seing this was not the case, he was not impressed and still somehow suggesting something had changed somewhere in the ether and we had to prove him wrong.
then Ponch came the closest to your situation in post #13 when he actually tried what you had done and then said "all 4 volumes (2 on the HDD) appear in Virtual Memory settings, but ... there is no new file on that key". But yet no one came out and said that what is shown in the Virtual Memory settings control panel is not guaranteed to be accurate. I'm sure if anyone who responded to this thread knew that they would have said so
A bit like
-How do I put a turbo on an electric motorbike?
-bad idea, won't work
-might sound crazy to you but I've done it on my electric car, now please help
-can't be done because electric motors don't have exhaust and that's what turbo needs. Could work on hybrid cars.
-your explanation is too complex, I checked for a hybrid bike but I can't find one.
-I see it can be fastened under the hood but won't have any effect, is there any indication that the car is more powerfull?
-no, but still I've done it, please prove that the car should be more powerfull if I place a turbo on the motor.
-... err...right.
Surrealism ... aahh...Belgium.
Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:16 PM
No one gave snoopy55 incorrect information, but without having it all together at once, his experience of what he was seeing with his eyes contradicted what he was being told. As a person new to this aspect of Windows, I guess that snoopy55 would have loved to have had this as the first response to his original post:
A "normal" MS NT based OS won't allow having a pagefile on an "external" disk, let alone a "removable" one.
To allow this normally a filter driver is used, see here for DiskMod:
which comes also in a 64 bit version, though tested only on later systems (Vista and 7) AFAICR.
What I find very strange (besides what you want to achieve) is what you report.
You should look to see where the Pagefile.sys actually is. ['To view the Pagefile.sys file along with checking "Show hidden files and folders" you must also uncheck "Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)"'] Be aware that there is a bug in 32bit XP such that:AFAIK, in order for a location to be used as virtual memory/pagefile, a Pagefile.sys file must exist there regardless if the pagefile is actively being used at that time or not.
32bit XP would "allow" you to choose a non-valid drive for the paging file and then outright LIE to you about where it actually was, leading you to your mistaken impression
But if you think a bit about it, set aside the foolish (and deceiving ) way that MS used to implement the Virtual Memory Control Panel and the mechanism, the "decision" to NOT put the pagefile.sys on an "external" device makes a lot of sense.
The pagefile.sys is "hooked" at boot time (and thus changes to it require a re-boot), what will happen if you have a pagefile.sys on a USB stick or HD and you decide "mid-session" to disconnect it?
Please confirm where any Pagefile.sys files are located anywhere on your system and get back to us if you still have any questions.
At which point snoopy55 would have probably said "Ohhh. Thank you very much, my mistake. LOL " and gone on his way and this would have been a three post thread. But without all the ruckus that was raised, I, for one, would have most likely skipped over this thread and it would not have made the impression on me that it has in its present form. So I still say "Thank You" to snoopy55 for having raised the issue, even though I'm very sorry that the discussion got so heated and that anyone's feelings were hurt.
EDIT: By the way, I noticed in snoopy55's pics that he had set the minimum/maximum settings for his Kingston pagefile slightly differently, ie 1023/1024 MB. I believe that the accepted practice, if you are not going to have them set automatically, is to set them to the same value, ie 1024/1024MB. But I could be wrong.
Cheers and Regards
Edited by bphlpt, 15 November 2012 - 05:03 PM.
Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:53 AM
Many do that, yes... then again, here I fully agree with jaclaz:
By the way, I noticed in snoopy55's pics that he had set the minimum/maximum settings for his Kingston pagefile slightly differently, ie 1023/1024 MB. I believe that the accepted practice, if you are not going to have them set automatically, is to set them to the same value, ie 1024/1024MB.
There are few things as "personal" as the choice on how exactly to set a pagefile :
Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:11 AM
In this specific case I disagree .
The setting for a pagefile (not system managed) has to be chosen between:
- fixed size (like 1024-1024) <-Smart IMHO
- "dynamic" (like 1024-2048)<-Senselsss IMHO
The third option "dynamic with no slack" (like 1023-1024) is one that makes even less sense.
The idea with "fixed size" is that when the pagefile is hit AND it's fixed size is filled, the system will nicely crash.
The idea with "dynamic" is that once pagefile.sys is "hit", AND it is filled for it's minimum size, it starts expanding until it reaches the maximim size, THEN the system will crash nicely of course IF there is enough available space for the pagefile to "grow".
The foolishness of the "dynamic" is that it takes time (and system resources) to resize the pagefile, so, in a situation where the system is on the verge of crashing you add some stress to it.
That, in determinate conditions (and with the big caveat of available space) may make some (little) sense if the "expansion range" is "big".
With 1 Mb difference it makes not any.
BTW, on low memory systems, it makes sense to make a dynamic pagefile, say, something like 100-2048 in order to test the system (intentionally loading it to the max/overloading it) to find a more accurate value for the max range used, lets'say 1536, and then set it fixed to 1536-1536.
Additionally a "dynamic" pagefile, if "hit", will contrubute to fragmentation, and for any "diagnostic" use of the pagefile.sys as "dump" it is much more convenient to have it in "one piece" as only the "fixed" setting may guarantee.
With today's hard disk sizes, it makes no sense however to "spare" a few Mbytes of hard disk space anyway.
- someone else - in perfect good faith - provided 5 partial or unrelated answers to the original question.
- OP - remarked this in a somewhat "I know more than you do" approach, and reiterating the question as "So again, we are right back to the question, is there a way to get XP x64 to be able to use a USB as VM?"
- I initially answered to that question (and nothing else), and I did it VERY accurately, it was NOT my intention to make a course on vityual memory or pagefile.sys and from the approach of the OP, my intention was to post EXACTLY what I posted, and I also explained the reasons why I did post EXACTLY that and not nothing else in post #30 and also some "what if"
- I want to re-affirm the fact that I am NOT binded by any contract or agreement to spoon feed anyone, particularly when I feel like not doing it, nor that I need to "make friends" with anyone, hence I feel free to post whatever I like to, in the EXACT way I like to, within the limits of Board Rules, of course.
Of course you are perfectly free to tell me what I should have posted and how I should have worded it, but I find it a perfect example of exercise in futility.
Let's use a carpenter's comparison :
a fictional_customer goes to the hardware store and:
I want to to fix a steel plate with some nails on a reinforced concrete wall, I used to do that with common iron nails and a hammer, but somehow I cannot manage to do it anymore in my new house, how do I do it?
I don't think it is a good idea to plant nails wiith a hammer in a reinforced concrete wall, expecially to fix to it a steel plate, and I doubt you ever managed to do that.
Normally you cannot plant common nails in a reinforced concrete wall with a hammer.
What is normally used for concrete walls are wall plugs/screw anchors/dowels, and you need a drill to install them, here is the only one I have available....
(fictional_customer' walks away, coming back the day after with some photographs of a steel plate with a hook welded to it nailed to a wall)
Have you checked it is well fixed?
I tried doing the same, but it seemed not stable.
You see, I have been doing DIY jobs all my life, and I used to work as carpenter, painter and truck driver.
Here is the steel plate I fixed to the wall on my old house, as you can see it is fixed with nails, and I can guarantee that I planted them with a hammer
(fictional_customer' walks away, coming back the day after)
Good , have you tried to put some load on the hook? (just to make sure it is fixed in a solid way, can you try hanging to it, let's say, some 100 pounds)
I found an interesting fact.
I tried putting some weight to the hook.
I had to use a rope to hang the load to the hook (you didnt mention using a rope at all).
The hook and steel plate came off the wall
Yes, this is normal, that's why I told you to use some anchors, what happens is that when you plant the nails they seem to be steady but they cannot hold on concrete enough to carry an actual weight.
You could have explained that better and from the start.
Yes, I could have, but I didn't, since you seemed - and actually presented yourself as - an expert.
That hardware store manager is queer, he could have explained better how nails are not the right choice to fix steel plates on walls if the hook on the plate is to be loaded. I didn't knew that, but he could well have explained since day one, if he had been more explicit, than the customer would have bought the drill and anchors the first day.
And, still just for the record:
Can you open that "USB card" in explorer and see if there is in its root (possibly hidden/system) a file named "pagefile.sys"?
To view the Pagefile.sys file along with checking "Show hidden files and folders" you must also uncheck "Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)" (you might have clarified this little much needed step Jaclaz )
Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:20 AM
Cheers and Regards
Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:36 AM
It is about exchanging knowledge on technical issues, or solve a problem, there is no teacher nor pupil, and this is not a class, there is a question, and (if there is a known answer about that question) someone that hopefully provides the answer.
If the answer is not understood, further questions in order to clarify the obscure parts may well be asked, and actually common politeness requires to ask these questions (that will also hopefully be answered) before putting aside the answer as nonsense.
How do I frimble the grontish wibble?
You cannot frimble the wibble, grontishly or not, without first trepling at least two stroppbaums.
See here:
I used to be able to frimble the wibble without any previoous procedure, but I beg your pardon, I am not familiar with stroppbaums, nor with trepling at all, can you explain what you meant?
Sure, no prob .
First thing you need to procure yourself a trepler, there is one availble here: xxxxxxxx, and another here: yyyyyyyyy.
Then you should read here: zzzzzzzzzzzz about the generic trepling procedure.
Once you will have grasped the general concept, will talk in detail about stroppbaums.
OK, I read the given resources, but I cannot understand what a frottle is and how to use it in this context.
A frottle is easy to understand, imagine a squeshter, but more froody, you simply braffle it over the trepler before applying it to the stroppbaums.
Ahh, now I see, so you actually mean that I absolutely need to use the frottle to treple a stroppbaum?
And that stroppbaums, properly trepled, are needed in any case?
Really didn't know that, thanks.
I do perfectly understand the attitude of the OP, which is a very common one, so common that long before this thread was started it was "coded" in the linked to "common sense advice" (a remarkably UNcommon quality of people) in the already given link:
and it exists since the dawn of internet, in the X/Y/Z issue:
particularly, but more generally in the "How to ask questions the smart way":
Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:49 AM
Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:54 AM
Sorry, we couldn't find that!
Cheers and Regards
Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:09 AM
Where was this - http://reboot.pro/82/ - supposed to go?
Sorry, we couldn't find that!
Cheers and Regards
My bad , (though not really my bad , it did take where it should have taken when I posted it) try:
and thus:
Just in case it disappears, eaten by a white whale or whatever, here it is verbatim the relevant part:
Following are not rules, but "common sense" advice:
a. Please do use the Search function before posting a question that has already been asked and (hopefully) answered to. This is another reason for rule #10 above, searching meaningful titled posts is easier and faster.
b. Please avoid to put pressure on other members, I have seen on other boards members posting a question and no later than 2 hours later make another post like "anyone?" or "PLEASE, I really need this URGENTLY!". As said, scope of the board is the exchange of informations on boot related technicalities and software, all members have their own work and come here to relax, learn something new, help others and discuss these topics, if you need something really "URGENT" consider hiring a professional consultant (and be prepared to pay him/her). If your request has not been acknowledged by anyone after a "reasonable" time, that in this case means a few days, you are on the contrary invited to "bump" it, as it may happen that a particular post has been overlooked.
c. Please be prepared to spend some time reading and understanding answers and related links, another common type of poster is one that wants something not only "now", but also only as a "few clicks away" solution, and, possibly "exactly" the way he wants it to be, even if it is technically impossible.
d. Please when asking something, be the more specific you can, even without being verbose you can pass along all the needed information, typical examples:Which one? Just from memory I recall 3 or 4 versions of Windows 3.x, 4 or 5 of Windows 95, 2 of Windows 98, then Millennium Edition, NT 3.51 and 4.00 Workstaion and Server, Windows 2000 various versions, XP Home and Professional and of course Windows Server 2003...
I am running Windows....When reporting an error, the exact number and text is useful to understand what the problem might be, quite obviously, knowing that it is a STOP: 0x0000007B INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE instead of "something like that" will really help ...
I have an error, it printed a number on a blue screen, the text said something like "You cannot boot from this thingy" or something like that....Which one, there are thousands of tutorials or articles on the Internet, how are we supposed to know which one you are referring to....
Ok, so I read a tutorial on the Internet and it does not work for me...No comment ....
Ok, so I read the tutorial on site www.somesite.ext and it does not work for me, I followed it exactly except for two or three intermediate steps, ...
e. Please, if you succeed in whatever you asked help for, do report this and the exact steps you took, it is a form of thanking the member(s) which helped you and to help other people that have the same problem you had.
The above rules have been almost entirely copied from the ones on MSFN forums, as I find them simple and rightful, but most other technical boards use similar ones.
Amendment #1 to Rules June 17, 2007 - adding of point f.
Special, more explicit, "common sense" advice, SUPPLEMENTAL to that already present in points a-b-c-d-e above.
Mind you that this advice is given to HELP you solving a problem, and though not compulsory, it will help you more than you might expect in troubleshooting and (hopefully) solve your problem faster.
f. Always think why you are here asking for help:Always think why other members might be able to try and help you:
It is because you are not able to solve that problem by yourself.The above implies that AFTER you have done your best to comply with points a-b-c-d of the rules, if any member trying to help you asks you supplemental informations and details, to run one or more programs or to do a determinate series of actions and to post results, it is because there are REASONS for this procedure. (you remember, you weren't able to solve this problem by yourself and they know more than you do.)
Because they are good guys/gals and know more than you do.
So, it would be VERY APPRECIATED, and, as said, it will better the quality of the assistance you might receive if you would:
f1.- Post JUST the problem you are having, with needed details, but WITHOUT suggesting what the solution is according to you.
f2.- Temporarily "disconnect" your mind from your idea of WHAT has caused or is causing the problem you have, and of HOW the fix should be made, solving a problem means finding it's SOLUTION, the method through which the latter is found is not relevant and viewing it from just one side can even prevent from finding the solution.
f3.- DO AS YOU ARE TOLD, do not introduce variations of ANY KIND in the given instructions, there are REASONS why they are suggested, and REASONS why they are suggested in the given order and yet more REASONS why other procedures are NOT suggested
f4.- DO NOT think you are smarter than the member who is trying to help you, even if generally speaking this might happen, it DOES NOT apply on the specific topic, nothing can upset more a willing helping member that someone that asks for advice and later does not try the given suggestions and/or does another thing. On the contrary, once the suggested steps have been tried and gave no result, your ideas are welcome, in other words we try to troubleshoot in a "logical" way, as in the famous Sherlock Holmes saying "when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth", but we like beforehand to exclude the possible, the common, the probable, and this approach solves problems in a MUCH faster way in a large amount of cases.
f5.- BE PREPARED to spend some time interactively searching and (hopefully) finding a solution, remember it is you that are having the problem, the only reason why another member tries to help you is to share and expand his knowledge, and to be gratified by an even small thank you when the solution is found. There are a number of members that, as soon as they see that there is no pre-made one-size-fits-all solution one or a few clicks away, simply disappear from the board, leaving behind an unresolved problem and, possibly, a disappointed member who tried vainly to help.
Edited by jaclaz, 16 November 2012 - 11:09 AM.
Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:30 PM
... I saw that coming the moment I hit "Add Reply" to send my message that said:
[...] I disagree .
Thanks for showing my crystall ball is working OK, right now, after so long!
[...] I fully agree with jaclaz:
Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:46 PM
Thanks for showing my crystall ball is working OK, right now, after so long!
Did you manage to find someone actually capable of tuning it?
I guess you aren't going to share the address of that shop, are you?
My crystal ball is very sensible to changes in weather, and noone seems like being able to tune it properly....
But still it was clear enough to allow me to write :
so that I could distiguish this specific disagreement with the more general "all round" one (that I suspect is the one your crystall ball - after all not perfectly tuned - showed you )
In the specific case ...
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Maureen and Mike Mansfield Library Digital Collections
For Release Weds. A.M.'s, Apr. 20, 1960
Suggested New Approaches
Mr. President:
It has long been the policy of this government not to establish
diplomatic relations with the Chinese government at Peking. And so far as
I am aware, the Peking government has not indj.cated any desire to establish
diplomatic relations with this nation. The Chinese in Peking, in short, ap-pear
to be as vredded to the continuance of the present diplomatic situation
as we are.
The question of whether or not to seek to establish diplomatic re-lations--
to extend official recognition depends on many factors. I presume
that this Administration has weighed these factors in the same unemotional,
objective and non-political fashion as its predecessor, and has come to the
same conclusion: that to establish diplomatic relations with Peking is not
in our national interest. I do not quarrel with that decision. The Executive
Branch has custody of all the facts which go into the decision and the re-sponsibility
for the decision ultimately rests with that branch. I must say,
however, that on the basis of such information that is public, it seems to me
that the decision of the Executive Branch, in this connection, is the correct
Whether or not to establish diplomatic relations with any nation is
one question. Whether or not to seek unofficial contacts is another. And in
this situation, it seems to me that any avenue of contact which may help us to
understand and to act intelligently on what is one of the most formidable de-velopments
of our times--the emergence and transformation of China into a
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militant communist state, is not only not to be avoided but is to be sought out.
I assume that this is one of the major considerations which has prompted this
Administration to keep a representative talking on and off with a ChineGe Communist
counterpart in Geneva and Warsaw since 1954. I assume that this is one
of the considerations which prompts the Administration to spend public funds in
obtaining, wherever possible, information about developments within China and
in analyzing and interpreting this information. I assume that this is one of
the considerations which inspires various departments of the Administration to
spend public funds in training employees in the Chinese language.
It seems to me that no opportunity should be lost for providing to
the people of the nation--no less than to those who conduct foreign policy-as
much objective information about developments in China as can be obtained.
That information should be drawn, if it is at all possible, from the actual
source of the developments.
Since the Communists achieved military supremacy on the Chinese
mainland, American journalists have been trying to do this job of informationgathering
for the American people in much the same way as the Executive Branch
does for its official purposes. They have tapped much the same pecond-hand
sources in Hong Kong, Formosa and other places along the rim of China and
elsewhere. They have put together a scattering of facts and rumors with the
glue of speculative interpretation. Most American journalists recognize, I
believe, that this is an inadequate way to do their job even though it is the
best that can be done in present circumstances.
But some years ago , apparently, an opportunity existed for reporters
to get news as they would prefer to get it--first-hand in China. That opportunity,
which depended on the cooperation of the Exectuve Branch, was
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withheld for a time. Many months later the Executive Branch recognized t~e
right of the newsmen to go but the situation had changed. By then, the Chinese
C o~unists had closed the door which, for a mo~ent, opp e a~ed to h&ve openeQ.
I do not know what it will require now to get American newsmen into
China. I do not know whether any arrangement is even possible. I believe now,
however, as I did when the issue first arose, that it will be greatly in the
interests of this nation if the newsmen can gain entry. If for no other reason,
it will give the people of the United States an opportunity to check, against
t heir objective reporting, the second-hand composite picture of the cataclysmic
changes in China which trickles down to us through the sieve of speculation.
In the long-run, if our present policies with respect to China are to maintain
their validity, in this as in any other matter, they must be supported by public
attitudes arrived at through an independent evaluation of the facts. The failure
to grasp the opportunity to gain entry into China in the past, the failure
now to seek to recpen the opportunity helps our policies not at all, and serves
only to deny to the people of the United States the contribution which a free
press is intended, under the Constitution, to provide to them in the conduct of
the public business.
While the responsibility for paving the way rests within the Admini
st ration, I would suggest most respectfully, that a sincere and determined.
effort be made at this time to reach some agreement with Peking for the rec
iprocal exchange of newsmen. That effort has little if anything to do with
the question of formal diplomatic relations with China. It has much to do with
an eyes-opened rather than an eyes-closed policy on an area which carries the
most far-reaching implications for the future of the nation and the peace of
the world.
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In a similar vein, I refer to the situation in Outer Mongolia. Merely
to mention Outer r-1ongolia in a serious vein is to invite a humorous reaction or
at best, a look of perplexity. While it rr:.C!.y be c1.ifi'icult to grasp the relationshlp
of a vast stretch of deserts and desolate mountains in Central Asia to
major trends in world affairs, the relationship, nevertheless, is there. It is
there, because in those deserts and mountains, the outward pulsations of Chinese
and Russian society converge in a setting which is not, in the least, fixed or
Brought into direct juxtaposition in this fashion are two great
powers, to sets of national interests and fears as well as two variations of
a shared ideology. That is the real1ty, whatever may be the apparent universality
of international communism. How these national interests and these
ideological variations reconcile or diverse, how these fears intensify or relax
on contact--these questions involving Russia and China are of the greatest
significance for the conduct of effective foreign policy. Indeed, the importance
of this contact has been recognized in the mauy words which have been
written by skilled people on ~his question, without specific reference to
Outer Mongolia.
In Outer Mongolia, however, the living drama of the convergence is
being enacted. It has been brilliantly described by Mr. Harrison Salisbury
of the Hew York Times who visited the area last year. If there is any need
for evidence of the extraordinary value to the people of this nation and,
indeed, to the government, of competent American journalists penetrating vhere
the government does not choose to tread, I would most respectfully submit
these articles by Mr. Salisbury.
According to Mr. Salisbury, Chinese and Russians in large numbers
are present in that borderland Separate missions from each are at work on
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separate undertakings. Each acknowledges, formally, the national independence
of the Mongolian people but each seeks to influence the orientation and develop~
ent of the Mongols in its own fashion. The picture which emerges from I~.
Salisbury's articles is by no means one of a monolithic, single-minded communist
super-state extending from Eastern Europe to Peking.
He have chosen in official policy--under both Democratic and Republican
Administrations--not to be first-hand witnesses to the drama in Outer
Mongolia. We have chosen, apparently, to exclude ourselves from the legitimate
and continuing observations which would be possible in Outer Mongolia, if official
contact were maintained with that country, observations which would be
extremely helpful in the formulation of effective policies with regard to all
of Asia as well as Russia.
So far as I am aware we have not explored the possibilities of some
kind of formal ties with the Mongolian government at Ulan Bator. That is the
case although the arguments against recognition of Peking do not apply in this
situation and there are indications that the Mongolian government, which is
recognized by certain Asian countries, is anxious to establish contact with
Western states. Further, we have frowned upon the admission of Outer Mongolia
to the United Nations. We apparently have marked it, and perhaps in error, as
just another Soviet province. In short, we may well be imprisoning our policies
in an unnecessary separation of ourselves from a most valuable source of information
and official contact in the heart of Asia, out of inadequate facts, inertia
or a fear of derision.
The decision to act in the case of Outer Mongolia, as in the case of
a reciprocal exchange of newsmen with the Chinese mainland is one which rests
with the Administration. I suggest, however, that we stand to gain by an
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initiative in this remote and little-known but highly significant area. I have
yet to see any persuasive reason why we should not offer to exchange explorat~ry
missions •ri th the Outer Mongolian gover-:1llle:J.t with a view to considering the
establishment of diplomatic or other ties. Further, I believe this government
should propose in the United Nations that the Outer Mongolian government, if it
still desires admission to that organization, should exchange missions with the
Secretary-General of the U.N. If the Secretary-General finds a reasonable basis
--comparable to some of the other admissions with which that organization has
been able to live--if he finds a reasonable basis for the admission of Outer
Mongolia then the United States should not stand in the way.
Mike Mansfield Papers, Series 21, Box 40, Folder 74, Mansfield Library, University of Montana
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