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Note: AFter first day, I completed the demo work removing the remaining studs and walls they did not remove b/c not neccessary to get their job done....
Well, after living in our new to us home for 6 months, we tired of the occasional water intrusion in the basement. When we first moved in a previous homeowner was well on his way to finishing 1/3 of the basement as a family room. Stud walls up, electrical boxes in place and some wire run, and to top it off he layed a plywood floor glued and screwed down. All of this was done without fixing the leaks in the basement poured foundation walls and floor.
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We have gravity drain at our house. We also have a sump pump, which is not their primarily to remove water, it's their as part of their fancy fresh air system, where they suck air from the chanels they installed, air from the basement via a drain and blow it out of your house. The replaced air comes from upstairs.
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2nd days work....
Note: AFter first day, I completed the demo work removing the remaining studs and walls they did not remove b/c not neccessary to get their job done....
So to have 2/3rd of the basement done was $11500 with the fresh air environment thing, $8000 for just the waterproofing system, 10% off if we did it immediately. For $500 we could have them "stub up" for the fresh air system so in the future when we decide we want it, it would be easier to install.....
So we did that, turns out the "stub up" is basically the whole system minus a little pipe, an exhaust fan. So as you can imagine, for $3500, i won't be having them install that, i'll most likely do it myself once I get some more info out of them.....
The fresh air thingy is supposed to reduce radon to less than required amount, reduce humidy to below 55%, exchange air 6-10 times a day in basement thus reducing odors and mold etc. It pulls air through the channel that runs along perimeter so it's suppossed to dry all that out etc.
So i guess i need to figure out how many cubic feet of air would be in my basement, then figure out what fan I would need to remove that 6-10 in 24 hours.
My concerns with this which I will address with the sales man are
so fresh air comes in from where exactly? Leaks around windows and doors upstairs? Through my attic? So in summer hot humid air is being drawn into my cool AC'd main level and down into basement. Do i now have issues with condensation in my walls or around my windows and doors?
$11,500 for 2/3?
How much would it have been to dig around the house and put a new/fix footer tile in, and re-waterproof the walls from the outside?
No footer "tile" just perforated black pipe. The foundation drain I'll call it still "worked", however didn't keep water out of the basement.
Quotes we got for that type of fix ranged from $4700-$8000.
Reason we didn't go that route, longest warranty offered was 10 years on fixing the cracks in the walls. We wanted a solution that wouldn't fail, i want to finish the basment (1/3) of it. I didn't want, or don't want, to have water penetrate in 10 years and have to re-do the drywall etc. in basement. So for $8000 that's what we've been promised in writing that it will not ever leak again.
I would prefer not to have to Capture and re-direct the water that penetrates the walls in our basement (the b-dry solution) but at the same time I don't want to fix it multiple times over the next 20 years we plan to live here.


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great work man!!! WOW!! HEY LONG TIME NO OPEN CANVAS!!
haha, yeah you have right to be curious about the project
I'll put my soul in it well its mainly done to get our skills into conceptart up
a little bit I cant post in the ssg forum, cause I cant log in
anyways, check out the project link in my sig now, I have done a site update.:
tell me if its slow, cause for me it is, but I have asked my fellas,
and they dont complain //yet, so drop me an line if NOTHING works , you know
we will start putting drawings / sketches and doddlings, modellings
and animations in there tomorrow, we already have alot of stuff
to go on, much thx to wolfbane
and thx for your input darktwin!
Btw, thx for visiting the Project page, we had 210 hits today
Rolo: Thx, again we gotta do an OC session ass soon as you have the time
I can't get into the SSG either, something is wrong with the links, its been a few days now since I was able to view anything there. But about Project Exodus, it looks awesome, I know the sight is a work in progress so I won't say much about it other than I think you guys should use a different font for your main type font, but thats just being nit picky. The concept design of the rider on the 4 legged animal is really awesome, who drew that? I like the idea behind your project. Your dedication is really amazing and inspiring for me. Keep up the good work Dile.
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Hey thx darktwin, yes the proud member of that concept art is Wolfbane
hm, I had some advice about choosing other front as the 5 standards...
Arial. new roman time, ah you know .. and this font (well Im used to it) is kinda
hard to read...^^
Well, both me and Wolfbane have some concepts ready (well alot of concepts)
we just nned some nice enviroments, and then we will start a thread
(Tomorrow) so keep watching.. We have alot of page hits already, and some (excluded I am) returning visitors also wich is GREAT! thx all who have
Oi Dile! Stop talking and get some bloody drawings up!!
ok ok ok
since we alreaady showed one of Wolfbanes concept heres one of mine
Nice, drawing and diving into zbrush, man, I should be playing with zbrush right now, I will definitly be diving into zbrush when this semester is over. I will have more time over the summer to do a lot of different stuff, but as of now working on school projects. Its cool though. I'm really loving Project Exodus, great work you two.
It was only a couple of weeks ago when you said, wow 4th page. 5th page now ! Can you see how much you are drawing and stuff, which is good! Nice 3D stuff as well! Thanks for the comment as well !!!
haha yeah, pretty exactly 2 weeks ago
I guess get more feedback now, compared to when I did started this thread
Thx for your input I try to post some drawings tonight
Wow you're on five pages good lord man you are flying!! Playing with a little zbrush huh very cool my only crit is the teeth aren't seperate from rest of the face but other than that you followed your sketch rather nicely great job. Keep up the good work Dile.
and on this new piece how long did you work on the speed painting? Something i need to be doing!
I started when I got home, the clock was about 06:40 pm and
I posted thise piece 06:54 pm, so about 10-15 minutes..
heres a new one... didnt took long time at all..
Without ref, I will do one with ref, lifedrawing soon
Thx for looking by ashrumm, I apprecate it very much :]
Btw: Your right about the teeath, I will change that in 3ds later, or maybe I'll do it in Zbrush, we will see
Btw2: heres another one,
Last edited by Dile_; April 25th, 2006 at 01:41 PM.
ok..heres comes the last Speedpaint / ref painting for this evening..
now over refpaintings SLOW and DETAILED refpaintings
Hi man. Nice new pics What I'd suggest is doing every digi painting from reference, so can hone your technique for the colours and values you want. Doing alot of digi reference studies will help you beyond belief!
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Last edited by Dile_; August 20th, 2006 at 03:33 AM.
nice stuff as always Dile your sketchbook has grown since last I checked
I like your apple, nicely done. and your monster/creature concept on zbrush is really nice too. I wish I had zbrush
keep it going
I also like apples
heres a new one, I did this one at the same time that i was drawing from ref analog, with pencils you know, so I switched
Thx for stopping by!
Hey Dile, nice last post, I'm just curious are you apart of the SSG 17 anymore?
Your last post is interesting, and I like your zbrush guy too. However, I really, really, REALLY, really advise you to tighten up your photoshop renders. You aren't Craig Mullins, and the looseness is doing your work no favors.
Next time you do a PS work, just take your time and smooth out larger areas, make sure to define highlights cleanly, and edge highlights even more so. The way you're doing it now kills the work because the value and color on any given piece of the pic will be all over the place. Without a higher degree of precision you won't convey form and color effectively, which will doom anything you do.
Also, in the pilot pic you haf a good start, but you need to take into account that he is surrounded on nearly all sides by bright blue sky. This would have a large effect on the color of his gear, and on his shiny helmet. http://www.baesystems.com/ocs/shared...s/pilotbig.jpg
Always pay attention to the colors surrounding an object, as they will nearly always effect the color of that object. Disregard this influence and your lighting will suffer.
Keep drawing, and I hope to see some nice solid colored pieces from you.
Es fließt durch meine Venen, Es schläft in meinen Tränen
Es läuft mir aus den Ohren, Herz und Nieren sind Motoren
Darktwin: yes I am , just just took it away yesterday, to edit my sig, and forgot
to add it again. thx
Dfacto: wow, thx for takeing you your time to write all this
(who is Craig Mullins, I know the name, but I cant seem to see any artwork of in in my mind right now.. )
and about that pilot pic, know when I look at it, it looks dull, and absolutly not what I wanted...I maybe sat down to long drawing yesterday or something.
Thx again for your advices!
Heya Dile, thanks for the supporting comment in my sketchbook. I can see improvement in your posts. I used to make a shit load of drawings after Marshall Vandruff and by just copying them accurately I noticed the forms and the shadows that different masses create etc... If I were you I probably wouldn't do any Photoshopping just yet, at least that's how I've managed; I've just doodled with pencils so far. It's kind of like, the other hand washes the other.
I have just recently started to think about starting to paint, but I will probably just study perspective and all that before I take the big leap...this is all just my own preference
Well, take care yo, keep that pencil of yers sharp --d
Last edited by ruuhkis; April 26th, 2006 at 03:15 PM.
Doyle': Hm first off, I havent copy any other artist if that is what you mean ?
second: I do it in all threee mediums right now, analog (pencils,ink) digital (wacom, photoshop) and 3D ( modelling, Zbrush, 3ds) well, thats what fitting me in my timezone right now, or how ever I could describe it
( sorry if I sound angry, I am not angry at all, I just appreciate your way to help, and Im explaining, how I work for the moment.. )
and btw, I have only done pencil studies (exept for p-exodus)
so Im working on lifedrawing, references and such only studies you know
I dont know, but I use to buy new pencils when my pencil's get to small, or sometimes when I cant find a "sharper" so I'll try
Thx again for your input
heres one more by ref,
just to keep the drawing mood up
Yeah, draw draw draw, You'll rock in no time! In the last one, the perspective is a bit odd with the buildings in the BG, tho. When studying from ref, I'd recommend setting some kind of goal or theme up before you start. With the pic here, such goals could be: understanding of water-reflections, environments with clouds and whatnot. It helps you putting the focus on what you find the most important. Right now, your images still lack that.
I like that last one but the sky fells abit flat compared to the rest.
You don't have a soul, you are a soul. You have a body. - C.S Lewis
My sketchbook, updated whenever I get around to it
hm, I guess I wouldnt have post the last one, since I didnt spend anytime at it..
well I wont make any more speedpaints on this page
But yeah I'll take your advice Faust,
Nikita : Thx ( me also bo nära götet )
heres a line confidence exersice token out of a book..
draw a full figure without letting your pen up. Just 1 line!!!!
Hi bro. The trick with the enviro stuff is lighting! Get that right, and you're on a winner.
Thx for your tip man, I keep that in mind, same time as I see your great enviroments
you rox man!
I have nothing to do, since my scanner and camera is nonfunctioning so Im doing digital this week untill I can borrow a camera or somethign.
so I hope u aint get tired of my digitals.


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Section One Free to Play
Section Two Buy to Play (No Subscription Games)
Section Three Pay to Play (Subscription Games)
Free to Play Top MMORPG 2014 Games List
Here are our top picks of the best free to play MMORPGs based on popularity, community, gameplay and graphics.
Neverwinter – a new MMORPG that is set in the classic Forgotten Worlds fantasy universe. Neverwinter's top features include action-packed PvP and exciting dungeon delving adventures. Plus, players get to enjoy the deep lore of Neverwinter and the story-driven large-scale quests that D&D games are known for. One of the best things about Neverwinter is The Foundry, a content creation tool that allows players to make their own quests or campaigns that can be shared and published in the live game world. This is one of the most popular new MMORPGs of 2014.
Link: Neverwinter official website
Drakensang Online – here is a game that is perfect for people who are in a hurry or want to play on their laptop. Drakensang Online is playable right away on your browser with no client downloaded needed. It is a 3D fantasy MMORPG with the best next-gen graphics of any browser MMO today. Some of its top features are: fast-paced action combat, lots of quests, unique skills for each class, dungeons, PvP, and more. A must-try for those who are looking for a great browser MMORPG.
Link: Drakensang Online official website
Star Trek Online – a formerly pay-to-play game that has made the switch to free-to-play, STO is a big-budget, top quality game set in the futuristic sci-fi world of the Star Trek TV series. Players take on the role of the captain of a spaceship and can engage in PvE ground combat or PvP ship-vs-ship tactical battles. This is the best game for people who are looking for good story-driven quests. STO even has weekly feature episodes (missions) that are all tied together into a huge story chain.
Link: Star Trek Online official website
Buy to Play Top MMORPG 2014 Games List
Buy to play MMORPGs are those that you have to buy the game to play it but there is no subscription needed. In other words, there is only a one-time payment then you can play the MMO as much as you want to with no additional membership fee needed.
Guild Wars 2 – this was the top-selling MMORPG of 2013 and we expect it will continue to be on top in 2014. GW2 is an amazingly polished MMO that has a great number of fun features such as dynamic events, a massive world to explore, and a personal storyline for each player. Unlike other games that require grinding (staying in one place doing the same thing over and over again for exp), GW2 fosters exploration. Even though the price of GW2 is cheap, this game was clearly a labor of love by the developers because the sheer beauty of the graphics and amount of detail in the environments is simply staggering.
Where to buy: Guild Wars 2 on Amazon.com
The Secret World – enter a world of secret conspiracies and supernatural terror. TSW is a unique type of MMO that is set in the modern day world with recognizable locations like London and New York. Players take on the role of a member of a secret society such as the Templars who fight vampires, werewolves, zombies, golems, mummies and other monsters from urban legends and folktales. Highly recommended!
Where to buy: The Secret World on Amazon.com
Pay to Play Top MMORPG 2014 Games List
Pay to play means that you have to buy the game and then pay a monthly subscription fee to access it.
Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn – review coming soon
Where to buy: Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn on Amazon.com
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Below is a list of the upcoming MMO games of 2014. All of these games are currently under development so they are not playable yet. Most of the info here was taken from their official websites, press releases and interviews. The original sources are credited and linked to but since these MMORPGs are still being developed the details given here may change.
This post will be updated regularly as more information about each upcoming MMORPG becomes available.
Many release dates given here are just speculative so please don't think of them as set in stone.
Editor's comment: this post was originally written March 2, 2013. Since then, of course, new information has become available. Games that were thought to be free are now revealed to be pay to play while some have pushed back their release dates past 2014. This list is constantly being revised.
Top Free-to-Play MMO Games 2014 List (Upcoming)
Everquest Next
Release Date: 2014
Developer: Sony Online Entertainment
Website: http://www.everquestnext.com
Monetization: Free to play
Finally, some real news about Everquest Next. The best registration form is now open for applications at the official website. SOE calls this upcoming MMORPG a "next generation sandbox" game. It will feature destructible environments, user-generated content, and 10,000 years of lore. There will be no classes in Everquest Next but players can chose from over 40 professions that they can mix and match to achieve their perfect character.
EverQuest Next Landmark is an online sandbox game that is free. It has tools that allows players to build worlds with realistic physics, kind of like an MMO minecraft. It looks amazing and we are really excited about this game.
Release Date: possibly 2016 (exact release date unknown)
Developer: Blizzard Entertainment
Website: none
Monetization: Not subscription
Titan is the codename of one of Blizzard's current projects. Not much is really known about this MMO and there is no official website yet. This leaked timeline shows a release date of 2014. Of course, Blizzard is already known for creating the best-selling World of Warcraft MMO so a lot of gamers are keeping an eye out for more rumors and news about Titan even though at the moment there is not much that is really known about it except for the fact that it will be separate and distinct from WoW and Diablo. According to Blizzard execs, it will not be subscription based.
This interview with a former Blizzard employee is very revealing though. He says that:
Just as any other blizzard game, it's gonna be a lot of proven concepts refined to the best of the genre mixed with reliable ways to sell to the masses and added with some tiny bits of hardcore to appeal to even the darkest of souls…. also sims players.
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PK Project
Release Date: 2014 (in Asia)
Developer: SmileGate
Website: none
Monetization: Free-to-play
PK Project is an upcoming multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA) game being developed by Smilegate, the Korean-based developer that made the popular first-person shooter Crossfire. PK Project will feature iconic Marvel Entertainment characters like Spider-Man, Iron Man, the Hulk as well as characters from myth and history. The release date has been confirmed as 2014 in an official press release by Marvel.com.
Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance
Release Date: TBA
Developer: NCSoft
Website: none
Monetization: unknown
Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance, also called Lineage III, is the much-anticipated third release in the popular Lineage MMORPG franchise. Details are sparse at the moment but a recent demo showed that it has an isometric (top-down) view like that of Diablo. Terrain and interactive objects in the environment will be a big part of the combat system. For example, if a fire spell is cast, the surrounding plants will catch fire. Three clases, Warrior, Mage and Elemental Archer have been announced but more are expected to be added before the game's release. (Source)
The release date of 2014 is just a guess since there has been no official announcement about it yet. The reason why it may come out in 2014 is because NCSoft, the developer, has run into serious trouble because the source code for Lineage Eternal has allegedly been stolen. This is bound to cause a delay. Despite this problem, it's still worth keeping an eye out for news about this upcoming MMO since its two predecessors, Lineage and Lineage II, have brought in over 1.6 billion in revenues for NCsoft.
World of Darkness
Release Date: TBA
Developer: CCP Games
Website: none
Monetization: unknown
World of Darkness is an upcoming MMO game set in the dark fantasy world of Vampire: the Masquerade created by White Wolf Publishing. It is expected to be somewhat true to its origins by featuring social interaction, player politics and role-playing, with faction and territories being a big part of the game. It will explore the themes of "Mystery, Romance, Power and Danger" and it will not be particularly combat-intensive unless the player prefers to play it that way. (Source)
CCP Games is the developer of the sandbox MMORPG Eve Online.
According to what was revealed in the 2012 EVE Fanfest, players can play it in three different ways:
Coffeehouse style – players who like the social aspects of the game can play the coffeehouse which is very casual and RP player focused
Theme park – the part that has a lot of PvE, like traditional MMORPG gameplay
Sandbox – this is apparently the biggest and most important part of the game which has a lot of player conflict and politicking, cities will be controlled by "Princes"
Release Date: TBA
Developer: Undead Labs
Website: http://undeadlabs.com/2011/02/news/qa-class4-and-design/
Monetization: unknown
Class4 is Undead Lab's upcoming zombie survival open-world online game for the Xbox 360. Another project, called Class3, will be released first. Class3 will be also be an online game (on Xbox Live) but on a small scale meant for two players while Class4 is much more massive, with thousands of players simultaneously playing on the same server. Class3 will start off the story with a major zombie outbreak then Class4 will show what happens as the the outbreak progresses into a full-fledged zombie apocalypse and the total breakdown of modern society.
The man behind Undead Labs is Jeff Strain, ArenaNet co-founder and former World of Warcraft lead programmer. Strain has stated that he likes the microtransaction business model so it is possible that it will launch as free-to-play or possibly buy-to-play. Subscription fees are reportedly impossible since the Xbox LIVE Gold service already requires a monthly fee.
Gloria Victis
Release Date: TBA, estimated 2014 on Kickstarter
Developer: Black Eye Games
Website: http://gloriavictisgame.com/
Monetization: Free-to-play with cash shop
An upcoming game by independent developer Black Eye Games, Gloria Victis is set in a dark and dangerous fantasy medieval world. Drawing inspiration from classic RPGs like Gothic, Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights, the game will have realistic melee, mounted and ranged weapons from medieval times. The developers have promised a mature, non-linear story that is "not afraid to tackle serious issues" as well as unrestricted character development with no classes. The actual release date has not yet been announced but their November 2012 Kickstarter page gives an estimate of 17 months before completion which means it might be due for release some time in 2014.
Ghost in the Shell MMO Game
Release Date: 2014
Developer: Neople (subsidiary of Nexon)
Website: none yet
Monetization: possibly free-to-play
Nexon has partnered up with Kodansa to develop a brand new Ghost in the Shell: STAND ALONE COMPLEX MMO shooter. The expected release date is early 2014. The official announcement in the Nexon website says that it will be a futuristic MMO first-person shooter featuring cyborg battles. There is also something called "cooperative battle mode, a new concept that integrates artificial intelligence with the player." No other details are known.
LEGO Minifigures MMO
Release Date: testing 3rd quarter 2013, release first half 2014
Developer: Funcom
Website: none
Monetization: free-to-play
The upcoming LEGO Minifigures MMO by Funcom is scheduled for closed beta testing in the 3rd quarter of this year and they are going for a 2014 release date. The MMO will be a family-friendly that is available for play on the PC, Mac, iOS, Android and Windows mobile platforms. The LEGO Minifigures MMORPG is envisioned as a fun, collection-driven game for kids with lots of LEGO humor, flashy combat, PvP brawls, and team PvP. It will contain a lot of different game environments from outer space to a world based on Greek mythology.
Sources: Funcom financial report and the official press release announcement.
Release Date: 2014 (unconfirmed)
Developer: independent
Website: http://edengrad.net/blog/en/about/
Monetization: free-to-play
Edengrad is an upcoming independently developed crafting/survival MMORPG. It is currently being developed in Poland. In this MMO, players will spawn in a random location in the post-apocalyptic world. Since the newbie player will have no items, his or her first task will be to gather and build a shelter so he or she can survive the first night in Edengrad since monsters or predators tend to hunt after dark. Players will have to gather resources, cut down trees, grow crops, and craft items to sate their hunger, thirst and energy needs. Every item in the world from campfires to massive cities, will have to be crafted by players.
Registration for alpha testers: http://edengrad.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=343
Top Buy to Play MMORPGs 2014 – Non Subscription Games (Upcoming)
Release Date: 2014
Developer: Bungie
Website: www.destinythegame.com
Monetization: Buy to play
By the creators of Halo, the upcoming shared world shooter game Destiny is due for release in 2014 on the PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, Xbox 360, and Xbox One. No PC version has been announced. No subscription will be needed though the game is not free. Players will have to purchase the game itself and play it online, presumably because there is no offline single-player mode.
For more information we suggest that you read this rather long but informative post on Kotaku.
The Crew
Release Date: Q1 2014
Developer: Ivory Tower & Ubisoft Reflections
Website: http://thecrew-game.ubi.com/portal/en-US/home/index.aspx
Monetization: buy to play
An open world racing game set in a persistent world, The Crew is an upcoming racing MMO that will be launched next year for the PlayStation 4, Xbox One, and PC. It is set in the modern-day United States and offers players the freedom to either free roam (drive around with no goals in mind) or accept race, outrun and takedown missions. Players will be able to free-ride and work on missions solo or join a "crew" which is a group of 2-4 players.
The developers have not revealed the exact number of cars that will be available in the game but they have stated that it will "offer the widest variety of car types ever seen in a driving game." (source) The Crew will also have extensive car customization options so that players can make their own car uniquely different from all of the others on the road.
Top Pay to Play MMORPGs 2014 – Subscription Games (Upcoming)
The Elder Scrolls Online
Release Date: Q2 2014
Developer: Zenimax Online Studios
Website: elderscrollsonline.com/en/
Monetization: subscription
The Elder Scrolls Online has been called "The Next Big Thing" in MMORPG gaming. There has been massive media coverage about this game. If you want to check it out for yourself, you can signup for beta testing on the official TESO website. So far it looks like this will have the usual fantasy RPG type of gameplay with real-time action combat. One of the interesting things about TESO is that there will be no servers or shards, everyone will be connected and online in the same world.
Note that in the older blogs or news sites you might see a release date of 2013. That was the original date given but it has now been delayed to Spring 2014. The Elder Scrolls Online is also due for release not just on the PC but also the Playstation 4 and Xbox One.
Star Citizen
Release Date: 2014
Developer: Roberts Space Industries
Website: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/about-the-game
Monetization: Subscription
Not your usual MMO game, Star Citizen by Roberts Space Industries (RSI) is a sandbox space game with open world architecture set in space that is being developed by Chris Roberts, the same guy who made the popular, genre-defining game Wing Commander. Strictly speaking it is not just an MMO (although it is set in a persistent world) because there is also a single-player, offline game mode. Private servers and mods will also be allowed.
This sandbox MMO will feature over 100 different galaxies in which they can trade, mine, fight and complete missions. Politics and the economy will be player-run in this space-sim MMO.
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Long frustrated that the Big East Conference had become consumed with football, Marquette and six other Catholic schools were quietly laying a plan to strike out on their own, wanting to get back to the league's basketball roots. It was all moving quickly, the Rev. Scott Pilarz told the board — in fact the schools would announce their plans to the world just 10 days later.
Sitting at the table in Milwaukee that morning, taking in Pilarz's words with particular interest, was the president of Creighton University. In addition to leading the Omaha campus, the Rev. Timothy Lannon serves on the board of Marquette, a sister Jesuit institution.
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Having heard the buzz, Creighton University President Timothy Lannon expresses interest in joining new league to Marquette president during conference of Jesuit schools in Chicago
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Catholic 7 presidents meet in New York and vote to add Butler, Xavier and Creighton; Lannon receives call from DePaul president officially extending invitation; CU executive committee acts on it that day
March 15
Lannon calls Valley Commissioner Doug Elgin to inform him of Creighton's departure. The World-Herald reports that school has decided to join Big East
March 20
Creighton is formally introduced with other Big East schools during media event in New York
July 1
Creighton officially becomes member of Big East Conference
� The decisions were driven by the presidents of the Catholic 7 schools, who in some cases didn't even keep their athletic directors fully in the loop. A marriage with a planned new Fox sports network helped the league quickly take shape. The focus then turned to what schools to add to bring the league to 10 universities.
� Rasmussen right to the end thought Creighton had little shot of making the Big East cut, believing the school was too far west. He became frustrated over the hundreds of hours of research Lannon asked the athletic department to conduct related to a possible move.
� The biggest concern for Creighton was what impact the conference change would have on the school financially, something school officials studied in great detail. Even looking at worst-case scenarios — with Creighton struggling at the bottom of the new league and basketball attendance falling — the bigger TV and NCAA tournament dollars still made the Big East a plus.
� While it was speculated Creighton had a Big East bid in hand in March when its fans flocked to St. Louis for the Missouri Valley Conference basketball tournament, Lannon knew only that it was a strong contender. It made for some awkward moments during "Arch Madness," with Lannon at one point excusing himself from a meeting of the league's presidents.
� Lannon's connections with some of the Catholic 7 presidents no doubt helped Creighton grab the new conference's ear. But more than any lobbying effort, it was Creighton's academic profile, impressive athletic facilities and basketball success that impressed the other presidents. Those strengths helped Creighton best other contenders that fell more neatly within the Big East's geographic footprint.
In the end, it was "a match made in heaven," Lannon quipped the day the league was announced — one that will have the likes of Georgetown, Villanova, Butler, DePaul and Marquette trekking to downtown Omaha annually to play the Jays.
It would have been almost unfathomable a decade ago. But it's certainly no fluke, Pilarz said recently. Creighton earned it. It wasn't as if the school had to hit some half-court prayer to win entry to the league.
"It was a slam dunk, really," he said.
* * *
Playing in a late-November tournament in Las Vegas, Doug McDermott and the Creighton Bluejays were on the kind of roll that would have been the envy of any gambler on the Strip.
With the first-team All-American forward logging 29 points on an array of moves in the post, runners and bombs from downtown, the Bluejays downed Arizona State 87-73 to claim the title in the Las Vegas Invitational tournament. The win improved the Jays to 6-0 on the new season and helped them climb to No. 11 in the national polls, among its highest rankings ever.
Creighton was building on a run of recent basketball success that was unprecedented in the school's proud athletic history: at least 20 wins in 13 of the previous 14 seasons. Only Kansas, Duke, Syracuse, Gonzaga and Florida could claim more consistent success in that time. Eight recent appearances in the NCAA Tournament. And six straight years in the top 25 in attendance, regularly topping iconic basketball schools like Kansas, Indiana and Connecticut.
The mid-major success story that started under then-Coach Dana Altman was still going strong under Coach Greg McDermott, Doug's father. Now as the team prepared to fly home with its Vegas title, it appeared that Bluejay basketball was set to soar to new heights.
But on that November night, it wasn't just on the court that big things were brewing for Creighton. Because unbeknownst to Coach McDermott or his team, three time zones away, the Big East Conference was on the verge of implosion.
Four days later, on Nov. 28, Louisville announced that it was leaving the Big East for the Atlantic Coast Conference — the seventh school to bolt from the bedraggled league in a year. Now the Big East's seven Catholic schools — Georgetown, St. John's, Villanova, Providence, Seton Hall, Marquette and DePaul — were quietly making plans of their own. They'd seen enough.
* * *
From its founding in 1979, the Big East was a basketball conference. Only a handful of its schools played Division I football, but they all took great pride in their hoops. The league quickly became one of the nation's best.
Georgetown won a national title in 1984, and in 1985 the Big East put three teams in the Final Four: Georgetown, St. John's and eventual champ Villanova. That's something no other conference has done.
In the 1990s the Big East started bringing in more football schools, most notably perennial national power Miami. The league was chasing the big football TV dollars that were becoming increasingly critical in college athletics. The Big East basketball-only schools at the time believed aligning themselves with schools that played both sports would provide them more stability.
But when the fight for those football bucks ushered in a flurry of conference realignments three years ago — the same wave that brought the University of Nebraska-Lincoln into the Big Ten — no conference suffered more than the Big East.
In 2011 the league lost Pittsburgh, West Virginia and, most painfully, Syracuse, one of its original signature basketball powers. "That loss was a real blow to us,'' Georgetown President John DeGioia said.
The departing schools were being replaced by the likes of San Diego State, Boise State, Houston and South Florida as the Big East struggled to stay relevant in football. Not only did such moves make a mockery of the eastern geography that gave the league its name, it significantly tarnished its basketball brand.
A major fault line cracked between the league's football schools and the seven Catholic schools where basketball was king. "The old Big East was increasingly driven and consumed by football," Marquette's Pilarz said.
By last summer, some of the Catholic 7 presidents began talking about breaking away. The schools were coming to the conclusion that if they remained tied to the league's football schools, "it was not going to end well," DePaul President Dennis Holtschneider said.
Then in late November Rutgers and Louisville announced they were leaving the Big East. "Things unfolded very quickly after Thanksgiving,'' DeGioia said.
November was also when ESPN's exclusive window to negotiate a TV deal with the Big East expired with no agreement. The Fox network swooped in and signaled its interest in the Catholic 7 schools.
Fox was launching a new sports channel it hoped would rival ESPN. The network figured a basketball league built around the powerful Big East Catholic schools would make for some good programming.
"It created possibility," Pilarz said.
The size of the contract that would eventually be negotiated has never been disclosed. News reports have put the 12-year deal at roughly $5 million per school annually. Not exactly football-type dollars, which can approach $20 million for top schools like Nebraska, but a solid foundation for a new basketball league.
The universities made the announcement Dec. 15 in a joint statement: "Earlier today, we voted unanimously to pursue an orderly evolution to a foundation of basketball schools that honors the history and tradition on which the Big East was established."
There was much work left to do. They needed to negotiate their final separation from the football schools — including their ability to keep the Big East name, an important part of the basketball schools' heritage.
And they needed to find at least three other schools to join them to provide enough games to feed the network.
By the time of the Big East announcement, work was already underway in Omaha toward making Creighton one of them.
* * *
During the fall of 2012, Rasmussen and Lannon were picking up on the buzz coming out of the Big East. And while both were happy with the school's place in the Missouri Valley — Creighton's conference home since 1976 — they sensed opportunity.
Those who know the men say Creighton was lucky to have Lannon and Rasmussen driving the school's bid.
Rasmussen, in his fourth decade as a CU coach and administrator, was well respected in college basketball circles, having recently been named by his peers to the eight-member committee that chooses the field for the NCAA tournament.
Lannon, a 1973 Creighton graduate, in 2011 became the first alum to lead the school. Colleagues describe him as a smart, analytical thinker and an aggressive decision-maker.
When the presidents of the nation's 28 Jesuit universities gathered in Chicago in October 2012 for their annual conference, Lannon broached the Big East buzz over an after-dinner glass of wine with Pilarz, a fellow Jesuit priest and longtime friend.
"If this new league comes about," Lannon told Pilarz, "Creighton would like to be part of the conversation."
Then at the Marquette board meeting in early December, Lannon learned the new Big East was coming. But more than that, he learned Creighton already had the attention of the new league.
During lunch after the board session, Lannon found himself sitting next to Marquette Athletic Director Larry Williams. "You're on our list," Williams told him.
Lannon and Rasmussen would huddle frequently in the following weeks, pondering how Creighton should respond. The first question to answer: If Creighton were to receive a Big East bid, should the school accept?
Everyone agreed it would propel Creighton's stature. And on the academic side, it was a no-brainer.
The schools were closely aligned academically: all private institutions with a spiritual mission. And for 10 straight years, Creighton has been ranked No. 1 by U.S. News & World Reports among Midwest regional universities, ahead of other conference candidates Butler and Xavier.
Big East membership could also give Creighton a more powerful national brand. Two-thirds of Creighton's student body comes from out of state. The Big East would open markets in New York, Chicago, Milwaukee, Philadelphia and the Northeast, areas with large numbers of Catholic high school graduates interested in a Jesuit education.
On the athletic side, however, there were financial risks. The dollars generated by basketball help fund Creighton's athletic department, making the recent successes of the school's soccer, baseball, softball, women's basketball and volleyball teams possible.
The new league would bring larger revenue streams in television and NCAA tournament money, which is based on how many teams a conference gets into the tournament. Creighton, receiving about $300,000 in combined tournament and TV money from the Missouri Valley, could increase that nearly 20-fold in the new league.
But there would be big new expenses, too, including transportation. Creighton's teams in all sports would have to park their buses and fly to compete against conference foes.
The biggest wild card, though, was what playing in the new league might do to basketball attendance. Creighton was regularly drawing sell-out crowds of more than 17,000 fans. But if it joined the Big East and didn't enjoy the same kind of on-court success — hardly a far-fetched notion given the high-powered competition — would the fans still show up?
"People come to watch winners," Rasmussen would later tell the school's board. "No matter how strong the conference is, someone has to finish seventh, eight, ninth and 10th."
By January, Lannon had formed a working group of Rasmussen and several top aides and tasked them to find answers to these questions.
For his part, Rasmussen believed the questions were academic. From what he was hearing from his athletic director sources, he didn't believe Creighton had a realistic shot.
It seemed Butler and Xavier were locks for two of the three spots. They were successful basketball schools that fit neatly within the Big East geography.
Creighton, St. Louis University, Dayton, Connecticut, Gonzaga, Virginia Commonwealth, Cincinnati and Richmond were the schools most frequently mentioned in media reports as candidates for the 10th spot.
Among those contenders, Creighton and Gonzaga were geographic outliers. Creighton is some 1,400 miles from the easternmost Big East school and 500 miles from the closest. And if television was a major driver, nearly all were in bigger media markets — in some cases, several times larger.
It appeared to Rasmussen that even if the Big East went to 12 schools, Creighton was an outsider. He admits he became frustrated with all the time his department would devote to exploring all the hypothetical scenarios.
Lannon did not disagree with his athletic director's assessment. Still, both men early on reached the same conclusion: If a bid should come, Creighton would be crazy to turn it down.
Lannon and Rasmussen also discussed how Creighton should lobby for a position, eventually deciding on a low-key approach. Lannon made a round of calls to the Catholic 7 presidents just to make sure they were aware of Creighton's interest.
He phoned DePaul's Holtschneider, talking up the success of CU's basketball program and the energy of its fan base. The two men knew each other well, having gotten their doctorates together at Harvard.
Lannon was less familiar with other presidents. In fact, he was a little embarrassed to discover that the president of Seton Hall had a daughter who was a first-year medical student at Creighton. Shame on us for not knowing that, Lannon said. He checked to make sure she was doing OK.
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On Feb. 1, Lannon made a final, modest pitch, emailing each of the Catholic 7 presidents a three-page fact sheet.
"If the main goal of the new conference is to be the best basketball conference in the country, here is some data about the Creighton men's basketball program to consider." The document detailed the school's long run of basketball success and a rundown on campus athletic facilities, which are among the finest in the country.
Weeks passed. The Washington Post, not citing its source, reported in mid-February it was unlikely Creighton would be invited because it was too far west. The report out of Washington was consistent with what the rumor mill had been suggesting for weeks: that Georgetown's DeGioia, a powerful player in the process, didn't support adding Creighton.
If true, it posed a major barrier. Trying to get into a conference can be like pledging a fraternity. It takes only one or two "no" votes to keep you out.
Lannon said he called DeGioia and asked the Georgetown president point-blank: "Are you supporting Creighton for admission to the Big East?"
As he had throughout the process, Lannon said, DeGioia didn't let on one way or the other.
DeGioia in a recent interview didn't recall that conversation with Lannon. He said he didn't know why there would have been talk of Georgetown opposing Creighton.
"…�From the very beginning, Georgetown has been an enthusiastic supporter of Creighton, and we are pleased they are joining the Big East,'' he said.
While geography was a consideration, DeGioia said, it was not as important as commitment to athletes as students, a history of operating with integrity and commitment to play basketball at the highest level. On those core criteria, he said, it was clear Creighton would be an outstanding addition to the league.
In fact, once the Catholic 7 got to serious discussions about which schools to invite, some time in February, Creighton, Butler and Xavier quickly separated themselves, DeGioia said.
Two other Catholic 7 presidents also said they were high on Creighton from the start.
DePaul's Holtschneider said he was familiar with the school's commitment to top-notch athletics. He also lauded Lannon's leadership.
"This is a president's league, where the presidents make the decisions," he said. "You want good partners."
Marquette's Pilarz also advocated for Creighton, which he said "rose to the top of my list right away." And if schools farther east were concerned about Creighton's geography, Pilarz said he never heard the talk directly.
At one point one of the presidents told Lannon he was overall hearing good things about Creighton. It was Lannon's first indication that the Catholic 7 as a whole was warm to Creighton. Maybe this wasn't such a long shot after all.
Then on Feb. 27, during an annual Washington breakfast on Capitol Hill hosted by Jesuit universities, DeGioia pulled Lannon aside. Joe Lecesse, an attorney who's working with us, is going to call you, DeGioia said.
The call later that day was one of the most unusual Lannon had ever received.
"I want to be very clear with you about this conversation," Lannon recalled Lecesse saying. "It's not a conversation about you being invited to join the Big East." But if Lannon would sign a confidentiality agreement, Lecesse said, there were some things they could talk about.
Lannon signed the agreement the next day, and Lecesse called again. He then explained to Lannon the legal structure of the new league and its financial arrangements.
Lecesse said he would send Lannon a copy of the league's terms, again making it clear this was not a formal invitation. In fact, schools that ultimately weren't invited were having the same conversation with Lecesse.
Near the end of the talk, Lannon shared with Lecesse his long-held presumption: that Creighton was not in the running for the first three spots in the new league but was rather a fallback if it went to 12.
"Not necessarily," Lecesse replied.
The call ended. As Lecesse had said, it was not an invitation. But there was something about the tone of the conversations with league officials over those few days. As Lannon hung up, he now believed an invitation was forthcoming.
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In front of some 6,000 fired-up Creighton fans who had helped paint the Scottrade Center in St. Louis blue, the top-seeded Creighton Bluejays on March 8 launched a quest for what would become their 12th — and last — Missouri Valley tournament championship.
Near the end of the Bluejays' opening victory over Drake, an ESPN reporter sent the word out over Twitter: Creighton has withdrawn from the Missouri Valley.
The tweet was wrong and later corrected. But it likely had its roots in an unusual meeting held earlier that day.
The conference presidents were gathering, putting Lannon in a tricky spot. As chairman of the council of Missouri Valley presidents, Lannon was to preside over the meeting. On the agenda: What should the league do if Creighton or anyone else departs?
"Oh, my Lord," Lannon thought. Arch Madness, indeed.
Lannon spoke with MVC Commissioner Doug Elgin and then hatched a plan. Lannon brought the meeting to order. And then he excused himself.
Throughout recent weeks, Lannon and Rasmussen had tried to keep Elgin in the loop on Creighton's plans. Lannon said he told Elgin that Creighton had not been invited but was the subject of considerable talk. Rasmussen repeatedly shared with Elgin his sincere belief that Creighton's chances of leaving were essentially nil.
"I know the rumors are out there," Rasmussen told Elgin in St. Louis that weekend. "But it's a long shot — a very long shot."
Everyone in St. Louis was talking about Creighton. ESPN had reported Creighton would be invited to the Big East. When pressed, Lannon would say only that Creighton had not received an invitation. He otherwise kept to the confidentiality agreement.
In truth, things had progressed in the eight days since Lannon spoke to Lecesse. The school's attorneys were going over every word of the Big East's proposed terms. And just the previous day, the executive committee of Creighton's board had voted unanimously: If the Big East did officially extend an invitation, Lannon was authorized to accept it.
Lannon and Rasmussen days earlier had briefed the full board on what was happening. The board includes some of Omaha's top businessmen, and they had one bottom line: Would this work financially?
Rasmussen took them through his staff's work, which by necessity was fraught with assumptions. The travel was manageable cost-wise and would not lead to more missed class time for student-athletes. It takes less time to fly to New York than to bus to Carbondale, Ill., or Terre Haute, Ind.
They ran models of what basketball revenues would look like under various levels of success. In the end, the increased TV and NCAA revenue made up for any possible losses at the gate. Under best-case scenarios, the Big East would be a financial windfall.
By the end of the meeting, the room was charged with excitement about the possibilities.
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On March 13 Lannon went through the day on pins and needles. He knew the Catholic 7 presidents were quietly gathering in New York at the Times Square office of Lecesse's law firm.
Lannon was meeting on campus with his council of vice presidents and deans in the Skutt Student Center when his cellphone went off. Normally he would have ignored it. But given the circumstances, he pulled the phone from his belt and saw the name on the caller ID: Dennis Holtschneider.
Lannon dashed from the room to take the call. As he suspected, the DePaul president was making it official: The Big East was coming to Nebraska.
"Tim, I'm thrilled to tell you I'm calling officially on behalf of the conference," Holtschneider said. ''We'd like to offer Creighton membership."
Lannon was ecstatic, repeatedly thanking his old friend.
Lannon called Rasmussen, and for the first time the athletic director allowed himself to believe this was going to happen. Both men were hopeful that in 10 years, people would be able to look back and say this day was a key point in the history of Creighton.
A week later, Lannon huddled in the green room of a Fox network studio in New York with the other nine presidents of the new Big East. They chatted for almost an hour, and it all felt so natural. This seemed to be a good fit.
During the media question-and-answer session that followed the league's televised announcement, a reporter asked a question that included a snarky comment about Omaha. The Rev. Brian Shanley, the president of Providence, quickly stepped in, going on and on about what a great city Omaha was and about Creighton's terrific sports venues.
In fact, it seemed all the Catholic 7's leaders were in agreement: Creighton belonged in the Big East.
"They have built a program that has earned its way," Holtschneider said. "We're very happy to have them."
Location: Omaha
Mascot: Bluejays
Colors: Blue and white
Enrollment: 7,730
Top academic programs*: Health professions, business, management, sciences, communication
Recent conference affiliations: Missouri Valley (1976-present)
Basketball history: 17 NCAA tournament appearances
School profile: The Jesuit fixture near downtown Omaha has grown up a lot in the past two decades, expanding facilities and regularly topping U.S. News & World Reports' list of top Midwest universities, with a strong, student-centered reputation. But the move to the Big East is a big step up in exposure and prestige.
Location: Indianapolis
Mascot: Bulldogs
Colors: Navy and white
Enrollment: 4,626
Top academic programs: Business, education, visual and performing arts, communication/journalism, health professions
Recent conference affiliations: Horizon League (1993-2012), Atlantic 10 (2012-present)
Basketball history: 11 NCAA tournament appearances; two Final Fours; 2010 and 2011 NCAA runner-up
School profile: The only non-Catholic school in new Big East was founded by Christians in 1855. Its biggest basketball claim to fame had been Hinkle Fieldhouse, a 1920s-era gym featured in the movie "Hoosiers." But that was before trips to the NCAA finals in 2010 and 2011, with the Bulldogs missing the 2010 title when a half-court buzzer-beater bounced off the rim.
DePAUL UNIVERSITY
Location: Chicago
Mascot: Blue Demons
Colors: Royal blue and scarlet
Enrollment: 25,398
Top academic programs: Business, communications, liberal arts and sciences, social sciences, computer and information
Recent conference affiliations: Great Midwest Conference (1991-1995), Conference USA (1995-2005), Big East (2005-present)
Basketball highlights: 22 NCAA tournament appearances; two Final Four appearances
School profile: The nation's largest Catholic university is set in the heart of Chicago, with campuses in Lincoln Park and the Loop. While DePaul was a regular tourney qualifier from 1976 to 1992, the basketball team has landed just two bids since.
Location: Washington, D.C.
Mascot: Hoyas
Colors: Blue and gray
Enrollment: 17,130
Top academic programs: Business, law, medicine, public policy
Recent conference affiliations: Founding member of Big East (1979)
Basketball highlights: 28 NCAA tournament appearances; five Final Fours; 1984 NCAA champion
School profile: The Jesuit school's location in the nation's capital helps it attract students drawn to politics, policy and power. Coach John Thompson built a basketball powerhouse during the 1980s, a legacy now continued by his son, John Thompson III.
Location: Milwaukee
Mascot: Golden Eagles
Colors: Blue and gold
Enrollment: 12,002
Top academic programs: Business, communications, engineering, health professions, social studies
Recent conference affiliations: Horizon (1988-1991), Great Midwest (1991-1995), Conference USA (1995-2005), Big East (2005-present)
Basketball highlights: 30 NCAA tournament appearances; three Final Four appearances; 1977 NCAA champion
School profile: A Jesuit university in an urban setting. Its storied basketball program has seen a recent revival. Its 15,000 fans per game made it the Big East attendance leader — a title it now yields to Creighton (17,000-plus).
Location: Providence, R.I.
Mascot: Friars
Colors: Black and white
Enrollment: 4,769
Top academic programs: Business, social studies, biological sciences, education, English and literature
Recent conference affiliations: Founding member of Big East (1979)
Basketball highlights: 15 NCAA tournament appearances; two Final Fours
School profile: The Catholic college was co-founded in 1917 by an order of Dominican friars, hence its sports teams' nickname. Its solid NCAA tourney history was highlighted by a 1987 trip to the Final Four under up-and-coming young coach Rick Pitino.
Location: New York City
Mascot: Red Storm
Colors: Red and white
Enrollment: 21,067
Top academic programs: Business, communications, biological sciences, education, health professions
Recent conference affiliations: Founding member of Big East (1979)
Basketball highlights: 28 NCAA tournament appearances; two Final Fours
School profile: Founded in 1868. The main campus is in Queens and there are satellite campuses in Manhattan and on Staten Island and Long Island. It ranks seventh all-time in college basketball wins, but has made only one tourney appearance in the past decade.
Location: South Orange, N.J.
Mascot: Pirates
Colors: Blue and white
Enrollment: 9,656
Top academic programs: Nursing, finance, biology, criminal justice, humanities
Recent conference affiliations: Founding member of Big East (1979)
Basketball highlights: Nine NCAA tournament appearances; one Final Four
School profile: Founded in 1856 by the local archbishop, it's the oldest diocesan university in the country. While yet to hit double digits in NCAA bids, it enjoyed a great five-year run of success under P.J. Carlesimo beginning in 1989, including four Big East titles and an overtime loss to Michigan in the 1989 NCAA final.
Location: Villanova, Pa.
Mascot: Will D. Cat
Colors: Blue and white
Enrollment: 10,661
Top academic programs: Business, engineering, health professions, social sciences, communications
Recent conference affiliations: Atlantic 10 (1975-80); Big East (1980-present)
Basketball highlights: 32 NCAA tournament appearances; four Final Fours; 1985 NCAA champion
School profile: Founded by an Augustinian order in 1842 in an upscale Philadelphia suburb. A regular tourney qualifier for a half century, it claims more sustained hoops success than any other Big East school. It pulled off one of the biggest stunners in Final Four history as a No. 8 seed playing a near-perfect game to beat Patrick Ewing and defending champ Georgetown in the 1985 final.
Location: Cincinnati
Mascot: Musketeers
Colors: Blue and silver
Enrollment: 6,945
Top academic programs: Business, liberal arts, social sciences, health professions, biological sciences
Recent conference affiliations: Horizon League (1979-1995); Atlantic 10 (1995-present)
Basketball highlights: 23 NCAA tournament appearances
School profile: Traces its founding to when Ohio was part of the Northwest Territory in 1831. Jesuit, mid-size and urban, it has much in common with Creighton. The schools also share similar hoops history: The frequent tourney qualifiers have never made a Final Four — the only two schools in the new Big East that haven't.
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