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Benefits - University Health Plan (UHP)
NOTE: Effective January 1, 2013, the UHP medical and prescription drug benefits were enhanced in response to passage of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), as amended.
Medical Benefits: The UHP partners with Coventry Health Care of Missouri to administer the medical benefits of the plan. Coventry's responsibilities include insurance identification card production, medical coverage verification, claims processing and prior-authorization/pre-certification. Coventry Member Services may be reached at (800) 775-3540.
UHP Consolidated Benefit Summary - Jan 2014
UHP Medical Coverage Benefit Summary - Apr 2012
Medical benefits are offered at three levels/tiers. Members receive a higher level of coverage when medical services are provided by Tier 1 providers and facilities. Tier 1 providers are SLUCare providers that practice at SLUCare offices and affiliated facilities. Tier 2 providers are practitioners and facilities contracted with Coventry. Tier 3 providers and facilities include those outside of Tier 1 (SLUCare) and Tier 2 (Coventry).
Tier 1 Providers (SLUCare): SLUCare Website
Tier 2 Providers (Coventry): Coventry Provider Search
Prescription Drug Benefits: The UHP partners with Catamaran (formerly CatalystRx) to administer the prescription drug benefits of the plan. The UHP prescription drug benefits do not include a mail order option. Catamaran responsibilities include pharmacy identification card production. Catamaran Member Services may be reached at (800) 207-2568, TTY: (888) 411-0767.
UHP Prescription Drug Benefit Summary - Jan 2013
UHP Prescription Drug Benefit Summary - Jan 2012
Pharmacy Claim Reimbursement Form
The RxBIN# for the UHP retail prescription plan is 603286. The RxGRP# is 514619. The PCN# is 01410000.
The plan's specialty pharmacy provider BriovaRx Specialty Pharmacy can be contacted at 855-427-4682.
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text: Alpine CDE-143BT CD receiver Zoom Front Back Back Photos Videos Does it fit my car? Item# 500CDE143B Review Summary 207 people say In Stock Free Installation gear for most cars Free Crutchfield lifetime tech support Free Shipping Your price $129.99 Add to cart + Add to wishlist Email me alerts for this product Buy this item and earn up to 130 Rewards points See more offers and ways to save Special Financing Available x By buying this product you'll earn up to 130 Rewards points. When you sign up for a Crutchfield account, you'll be enrolled in Crutchfield Rewards. You'll earn one point for every dollar you spend on gear from us. You can turn your points into Rewards Cards that you can use toward future purchases. You can sign up for an account now, or after you complete your purchase (you'll get credit for the points either way). Sign up for a Crutchfield account Overview Details Customer Reviews Q&A Articles & Videos Accessories Our take on the Alpine CDE-143BT by Ken Nail Why replace your factory radio? Two good reasons - sound quality and cool features. A new car stereo offers power that's superior to most factory radios, along with more sophisticated tone controls. And most car stereos offer built-in or optional features that add safety and fun to life in your car, including inputs for your iPod or MP3 player, Bluetooth connectivity for hands-free cell phone calls, satellite radio or HD Radio reception, and connections for building an audio system in your car. Talk hands-free and stream audio content You'll drive safer with Alpine's CDE-143BT CD receiver in your car, courtesy of its built-in Bluetooth®. When a call comes in, you'll see your caller's phone number on the screen, and you can answer the call by tapping the phone button on the front panel. You can adjust the mic's gain to best match your speaking voice, plus you can also tweak the phone output and ring volume, so you won't go diving for the volume knob every time someone calls.The CDE-143BT also supports Bluetooth audio streaming, so you can listen to any of the content on your Bluetooth equipped smartphone without a tangle of wires on your car's console. Enjoy iPod control, Bluetooth, and great sound with the CDE-143BT. Easy access to your iPod® and iPhone® music content Once you plug into the convenient front-panel USB input, you can use the CDE-143BT's controls to navigate your iPod's music library. Your riders will appreciate Passenger Control Mode, which lets them play DJ while you focus on driving. You can adjust your sound to taste with one of the ten equalizer presets or by using the 3-band parametric EQ. App Direct Mode for music apps Plug in your iPhone and you can also listen to some of your favorite music apps, like Pandora®, Rhapsody, and others with Alpine's App Direct Mode. You'll have basic control of music functions playback functions, such as play, pause, and next track from receiver, while you use your iPhone's touchscreen to other functions of the music apps. Want to keep your steering wheel controls? In most vehicles, you can use an adapter (not included) to connect your vehicle's steering wheel controls to this Alpine stereo. Connect a few wires, then program the adapter for your particular car and the Alpine, and you'll retain the convenience of your steering wheel controls. Check the "Accessories" tab for compatible adapters. Bluetooth note: Use of this receiver's Bluetooth features will depend upon your phone's Bluetooth capabilities. Learn more in our article explaining Bluetooth profiles. iPod note: If you're going to use your iPod with this receiver, be sure to check "Details" for specific iPod model compatibility with this receiver or its optional iPod adapter. See more info on this item Highlights:General features:CD receiver with AM/FM tunerbuilt-in MOSFET amplifier (18 watts RMS CEA-2006/50 peak x 4 channels)built-in Bluetooth for hands-free calling and audio streamingApp Mode for basic control of select music appscompatible with Alpine KTP-445 Power Pack amplifierdetachable faceAudio features:3-band parametric equalizerbuilt-in high- and low-pass filtersExpandability:inputs: front-panel USB and auxiliary inputsoutputs: 4-channel preamp outputs (2-volt front, rear/subwoofer)Other features and specs:compatible with most factory steering wheel audio controls (adapter required)CEA-2006 compliant amplifierwarranty: 1 yearOur 60-day money-back guarantee Hands-on research from the Crutchfield Labs (what are the Labs?) Features and specs chart | What's in the box? | In-depth notes Features and Specs General CEA-2006 Compliant Loading... 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No Seek/Scan Loading... Seek Radio Data System Loading... No Product Research What's in the box? Download owner's manual CD receiver (10A ATC fuse inserted in chassis) Sleeve (installed) Trim ring (installed) Face (attached) Wiring harness Hard plastic face case Microphone w/ attached 13' cable terminated by a right-angle male 3.5mm connector (inside face case) Sun-visor bracket (inside face case) Two-sided tape (inside face case) 4 Flat-head ISO-DIN screws (M5 x 8mm) Face fixing screw 2 Radio removal tools Owner's Manual CD-ROM Quick Reference Guide (En/Fr/Sp) Online Product Registration Computer Requirements booklet Our Product Research Team At Crutchfield, you'll get detailed, accurate information that's hard to find elsewhere. That's because we have our own in-house Product Research team — they open the box, verify contents, check the owner's manual, and record dimensions, features and specs. We stay on top of new products and technologies to help people make informed choices. Built-in Bluetooth iPod/Aux Integration Disc & USB Playback Radio Functions Audio Section Display Features Remote Control Built-in Bluetooth Bluetooth Technology: The Alpine CDE-143BT features built-in Bluetooth (ver. 3.0) technology. The head unit's built-in Bluetooth allows you to make and receive phone calls wirelessly through the receiver; as well as stream music wirelessly from your smartphone to the head unit. In order to use Bluetooth wireless technology, your phone must also be Bluetooth compatible and be able to interpret certain profiles. This unit is compatible with the following Bluetooth Profiles: Hands-Free Communication: HFP 1.5 (Hands Free Profile), HSP (Head Set Profile), OPP 1.1 (Object Push Profile), PBAB 1.0 (Phone Book Access Profile). Audio Streaming: A2DP 1.2 (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile), AVRCP 1.3 (Audio/Video Remote Control Profile). Note: Due to the differences in Bluetooth technology, some Bluetooth enabled devices may be incompatible, function improperly, or may not support all features when used with the Alpine CDE-143BT. Pairing: The Alpine CDE-143BT can be paired to up to five Bluetooth enabled mobile devices (only one device can be used at a time) Hands-Free Communication: The head unit supports Bluetooth hands-free communication for your Bluetooth enabled mobile phone (including iPhone & Android). The controls of the CDE-143BT can be used to dial a number, answer an in-coming call, or end a call. The unit also includes an external microphone, so you can carry on your side of the conversation while listening to the caller through your vehicles speakers. Receiving Calls: The Alpine CDE-143BT provides a couple ways to answer your phone calls without picking up your mobile phone. Incoming calls are announced by a caller ring tone through your vehicle's speakers (music will be muted) & a Caller ID message across your Alpine head unit's display. Manual Answer: Manually answer an incoming call by pressing the "Phone" button on your Alpine head unit. Automatic Answer: Set the Alpine head unit to answer the incoming call automatically; when a call is received, it is answered automatically after approximately 5 seconds. Call Waiting: If a second call is received during a current call, you can have the first caller wait momentarily while you take the second call. When you are finished with one call, you can switch to the other. Placing Calls: The Alpine CDE-143BT provides a variety of functions for placing a phone call without using your mobile phone. The Alpine CDE-143BT features full phone book access, call history, voice tag dialing, and redial with compatible phones. Voice Dialing: If you have a voice-dial capable phone, you can dial a phone contact by simply speaking the name of your contact. Phonebook (with ABC search): Up to 1,000 entries (3 telephone numbers for each name) can be downloaded from your compatible mobile phone. You can select the first 3 call letters (ABC) to search for a desired name in your phonebook. Preset Dialing: You can assign phone numbers that you dial frequently to presets (1-6) for quick recall. You can assign up to six frequently called phone numbers. A total of 18 phone numbers can be stored in the preset memory (6 numbers for each mobile phone paired). Call History: The previously dialed, received, or missed numbers (20 each) can be retrieved and dialed from memory. Note: During a conversation, you can initiate a transfer of audio between your mobile phone and your car's speakers. mute theExternal Microphone with Noise Cancellation: The included external microphone (with visor-clip) allows you to speak to the other party on the telephone call hands-free, while the other party's voice is played through your car stereo speakers. The external microphone is tuned and engineered to reduce noise interference and feedback. This allows optimal placement in your car, for the best possible sound quality. You can adjust the microphone's volume level; and even mute the microphone, so your voice will not be heard by the caller. The external microphone measures 0.5625" (diameter) x 1.625" (deep); and features an attached 13' cable terminated by a right-angle male 3.5mm connector. Wireless Audio Streaming (w/ Metadata Display): The Alpine CDE-143BT also supports wireless audio playback (AD2P) and control (AVRCP) of a Bluetooth enabled audio player or smartphone (including iPhone & Android). The CDE-143BT will be able to control basic playback functions of your Bluetooth device's stored music; such as Play/Pause, Skip Next/Previous, Fast Forward/Rewind and Random/Repeat. The head unit will also display your stored music's song information; such as Artist name and Song/Album title. The CDE-143BT also supports audio streaming of music apps downloaded on your smartphone with metadata display and limited control. Advanced music control of your music apps will still need be done via your Bluetooth-enabled smartphone. When an incoming call or outgoing call is in progress from your Bluetooth enabled mobile phone, audio streaming will be paused so you can take your call. Once the call is finished, your streaming music will resume. Siri Digital Assistant Control: When paired and connected with an iPhone 4S/5 via Bluetooth (not USB), the Alpine CDE-143BT has the ability to access Siri through its front-panel controls and external microphone. Simply press-and-hold down on the head unit's Answer Button to engage Siri and use the included microphone to communicate with Siri. Siri's voice will heard through your vehicle's speakers. All Siri functions including hands-free calling, music search, setting reminders, text-messaging, audible navigation, and more can be done through the CDE-143BT and its microphone. The head unit's display will only indicate hands-free calling and Bluetooth audio information (all other functions of Siri are only audible through the Alpine CDE-143BT; visual data will still need to be viewed from your iPhone device). Note: You can ask Siri to get directions to a destination and the turn-by-turn instructions will heard through your vehicle's speakers, while the on-screen map still displays on your iPhone 4S/5. The head unit's audio is attenuated while Siri provides audible directions. Bluetooth Sound Quality Adjustments: You can customize the sound of your Bluetooth hands-free experience to fit your own preferences. You can adjust the CDE-143BT's mic gain, phone output, & ring tone volume. If that's not enough, there are 5 sound quality settings to choose from to get the balance just right for you. This flexibility will make your phone calls a pleasurable experience. Volume Adjustments: You can emphasize or weaken the volume level of phone call, the ring tone, and the microphone input to fit your own preference. The Phone Talk Level, Ring Tone, & Mic Gain are all adjustable between -5 to + 5 dB. Sound Types: This unit provides 5 methods to improve the sound quality of your calls. You can choose the type according to your own preference - Type 1 (standard mode), Type 2 (enhances noise reduction), Type 3 (enhances echo-cancellation), Type 4 (enhances both noise reduction & echo cancellation), & Type 5 (weakens both noise reduction & echo-cancellation). Speaker Output: You can select which car speaker outputs the audio from your Bluetooth-enabled mobile phone/device. All: The audio will be output from all of the speakers in the car F-L: The sound is only output from the front left speaker. F-R: The sound is only output from the front right speaker. F-LR: The sound is output from the front left and front right speakers. iPod/Aux Integration iPod/iPhone USB 1-Wire Connection: You can connect your iPod or iPhone to the head unit's front-panel USB port using the Alpine KCU-445i iPod/iPhone cable (500KCU445I, sold separately) or the iPod/USB cable that came with your iPod/iPhone to get access to all of your iPod/iPhone's stored music, right from the head unit. If you have an iPod nano (7th gen), iPod touch (5th gen), or iPhone 5/5C/5S; use the Lighting-to-USB cable that came with your Apple device to connect to the head unit. Using either cable allows audio playback, music navigation, information display, and charging of select iPod/iPhone models from the CDE-143BT. Audio Playback w/ DAC Bypass: The Alpine CDE-143BT supports audio playback of music, podcast, and audiobook files stored on your iPod or iPhone; as well as music apps downloaded on your Apple device. The USB connection allows your iPod/iPhone's large music libraries to be loaded instantly to the Alpine head unit and sound quality to be maximized through the head unit's 1-bit D/A converter, allowing for a Signal to Noise ratio up to 105dB. Music Navigation: You can choose to control the iPod/iPhone from the head unit or from your iPod/iPhone's clickwheel or touchscreen (App Direct Mode). Head Unit: The Alpine CDE-143BT lets you navigate the stored music on your iPod/iPhone by Playlist, Artist, Album, Song, Genre, Podcast, Composer, Audiobook, or Genius Mix. You can then search these categories alphabetically. For especially big music libraries, the Percentage Search function uses the preset buttons for quick jumps to specific parts of the list (Preset 1: 0-6%, Preset 2: 17-32%, Preset 3: 33-49%, Preset 4: 50%-66%, Preset 5: 67-82%, Preset 6: 83-100% of the song library). The head unit also offers three Shuffle playback modes (Album/Song/All) and one Repeat mode (song). App Direct Mode: In App Direct Mode, you can navigate the stored music on your iPod/iPhone from its clickwheel or touchscreen. You can also listen to your favorite music apps (such as Pandora, iHeartRadio, SiriusXM, Last.fm, Rhapsody, & Slacker) from your iPhone (iOS 3.0+) through the Alpine head unit. Basic playback functions, such as Play/Pause and Previous/Next Track are available from the head unit. You will continue to use your iPhone's touchscreen to navigate advanced functions of your music apps. Not all apps will be compatible with this mode. Access to your iPhone's downloaded applications will depend on the availability of a cellular and/or WiFi network for purposes of allowing your iPhone to connect to the Internet. Information Display: The CDE-143BT will display your iPod/iPhone's music file information when you are controlling your iPod/iPhone from the Alpine head unit or the Apple devices clickwheel/touchscreen. The head unit will display Track number, Elapsed playing time, Artist name, Song title, and Album label. The unit will also display station identification and song/artist information from select music apps. iPod/iPhone Charging: While connected and the ignition switch is set to ACC or ON, the head unit's USB connection will power and charge your iPod/iPhone. If your iPod/iPhone has no initial battery charge, then the unit will not recognize it. This unit does not charge the iPad. iPod/iPhone Compatibility Chart: The Alpine CDE-143BT is "Made for iPod/iPhone" compatible and supports the following iPod/iPhone model features (as of 9/19/2013): Apple Device Generation Tested Version Media Type Control Type Bluetooth Display Type Charge Audio Video Head Unit iPod/App Phone Audio Siri Artist/Song Text Track Info iPhone 2G 3.1.3 Y N Y Y Y N N Y Y Y 3G 4.2.1 Y N Y Y Y Y N Y Y Y 3GS 5.1.1 Y N Y Y Y Y N Y Y Y 4 7.0 Y N Y Y Y Y N Y Y Y 4S 7.0 Y N Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y 5 7.0 Y N Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y 5C 7.0 Y N Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y 5S 7.0 Y N Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y touch 1st 2.2.1 Y N Y Y N N N Y Y Y 2nd 4.2.1 Y N Y Y N Y N Y Y Y 3rd 5.1.1 Y N Y Y N Y N Y Y Y 4th 6.1.2 Y N Y Y N Y N Y Y Y 5th 7.0 Y N Y Y N Y Y Y Y Y nano 1st 1.3.1 Y N Y N N N N Y Y Y 2nd 1.1.3 Y N Y Y N N N Y Y Y 3rd 1.1.3 Y N Y Y N N N Y Y Y 4th 1.0.4 Y N Y Y N N N Y Y Y 5th 1.0.2 Y N Y Y N N N Y Y Y 6th 1.2 PC Y N Y Y N N N Y Y Y 7th 1.02 PC Y N Y Y N Y N Y Y Y classic 80GB 1.1.2 Y N Y Y N N N Y Y Y 120GB 2.0.1 Y N Y Y N N N Y Y Y 160GB 2.0.4 Y N Y Y N N N Y Y Y video 5th 1.3 Y N Y N N N N Y Y Y iPad 1 5.1.1 Y N Y Y N Y N Y Y N 2 7.0 Y N Y Y N Y N Y Y N 3 7.0 Y N Y Y N Y Y Y Y N 4 7.0 Y N Y Y N Y Y Y Y N mini 7.0 Y N Y Y N Y Y Y Y Y Note: Apple iPod/iPhone software updates may change functionality results. If you download a newer software version, you may need to reset the head unit and your iPod/iPhone to regain functionality. If this doesn't work, you may need to wait until a newer software update is available. Auxiliary Input: The unit is equipped with front-panel minijack (3.5mm) auxiliary input. You can input audio from an auxiliary source unit: such as a portable MP3 player. You can change the name on the display to match the type of device connected to the front panel input; Auxiliary, TV, DVD, Portable, or Game. Disc & USB Playback Disc Compatibility: The unit features a single disc player that will playback CD-Audio, CD-Text, and finalized CD-R/CD-RW audio discs. The unit also supports playback of MP3/WMA music files loaded onto CD-R/RW discs. Front-Panel USB Port: The Alpine CDE-143BT features a front-panel USB (type-A) port that is hidden behind a flip-out cover. The USB port enables connection of a portable USB mass-storage class (MSC) device; such as select Android smartphones (Froyo/Gingerbread OS only), portable digital audio players, or USB thumbdrives. The USB port supports audio playback and control of MP3/WMA audio files stored on these portable USB mass-storage class devices. USB portable audio players that can be charged via USB will be charged when plugged into the CD receiver's USB port (max. 1A), and the vehicle's ignition switch is set to ACC or On. You cannot connect a USB device via a USB hub or Multi-Card Reader to this unit. MP3/WMA Playback: The Alpine CDE-143BT supports the following types of MP3/WMA files recorded onto CD-R/RW disc or loaded onto a USB mass storage class device. Media Type CD-R/RW USB Storage Device File System ISO9660 Level 1/Level 2 FAT 12/16/32 Playable File Types MP3: bit rate of 8-320 kbps w/ sampling rate of 8, 11.025, 12, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1, 48 kHz WMA: bit rate of 32-192 kbps w/ sampling rate of 32, 44.1, 48 kHz Maximum # of Folders/Files 255 files/folders 255 folders/255 files per folder Tags ID3 tags (ver.1.0/1.1/2.2/2.3/2.4), WMA tags Text/File/Folder Search: When you are playing a disc or USB device with CD-Text, ID3 or WMA tags, you can easily search for a track, file, or folder by its title. Once you have activated the search mode, you can use the rotary encoder to quickly scan through the titles to locate the desired track. For discs and USB devices without CD Text, ID3 or WMA tags, searches are made using the track numbers associated with each song. Playback Modes: The Alpine CDE-143BT offers Repeat and Random playback modes. Repeat: Repeat Play (repeats playback of current track/file), Folder Repeat (repeats only files in current folder). Random: Random Play (all tracks/files on disc are played in random order), Folder Random (only files in current folder are played back in random order). Off Insert/Eject: A CD disc can be inserted or ejected with the power off. When a disc is inserted with the power off, the unit will automatically power up and begin playback. Auto Reload: When a CD is ejected and left sticking out of the CD slot for 20 seconds, the unit automatically reloads the CD to protect if from damage. Angle Mounting: For proper CD playback, Alpine recommends mounting the CDE-143BT no more that 35° above horizontal. Radio Functions AM/FM Tuner: The Alpine CDE-143BT features a built-in AM/FM tuner with manual, seek, and preset tuning. Preset Tuning: The built-in tuner provides 12 FM and 6 AM preset stations. Stations can be preset manually or automatically. Local/Distance Tuning: Local seek tuning lets you tune in only those radio stations with sufficiently strong signals for good reception. Distance seek tuning allows both strong and weak stations to be tuned. Audio Section CEA-2006 Compliant: The specifications given by Alpine for the built-in amplifier comply with the CEA-2006 mobile amplifier power testing and measurement standards from the CEA (Consumer Electronics Association). All manufacturers who comply with the standard can display the CEA-2006 logo on their product. CEA-2006 Power Rating: 18 watts x 4 channels (at 4 ohms, 20-20kHz, 1% THD) Max Power Output: 50 watts x 4 channels 4ch/2V Preamp Outputs: The Alpine CDE-143BT features two pair of 2.0-volt preamp outputs. The unit's rear preamp outputs can be configured as fading rear-channel outputs or a non-fading subwoofer outputs with a low-pass filter, phase adjustment, and output level control. Note: When an external amplifier is connected sound quality can be improved by stopping the power supply of the built-in amplifier. Head Unit Power Pack (optional): Add the KTP-445A (500KTP445A, sold separately) Head Unit Power Pack to deliver 45 watts x 4-channel RMS of power. The KTP-445A is compact enough to install behind the Alpine CD receiver. It plugs in-line with the head unit's wiring harness, so you don't even need additional wires. Subwoofer Control: When the non-fading subwoofer preamp output is activated, you can adjust the subwoofer's volume, low-pass filter, & phase. Volume: There are two volume (system) modes for the unit's subwoofer output. System 1: Subwoofer level changes according to the main volume setting. System 2: Subwoofer level change is different from the main volume setting (0-15); even at low volume settings, the subwoofer is still audible. Low Pass Filter: The unit's subwoofer output low-pass filter can be set to 60Hz, 80Hz, 120Hz, 160Hz, or Off (through). Subwoofer Phase: The subwoofer output phase can be set to Normal (0°) or Reverse (180°). High Pass Filter: The Alpine head unit is equipped with a high-pass filter for its speaker-level output and front-channel preamp output (when activated). You can set the unit's high-pass filter to 60Hz, 80Hz, 120Hz, 160Hz, or Off (through). Preset EQ: You can select from 11 different EQ presets to get the best sound from all your sources. You can choose from Flat, Pops, Rock, News, Jazz, Electric Dance, Hip-Hop, Easy Listening, Country, Classical, or User. 3-Band Parametric Equalizer: The User Preset activates the head unit's 3-Band Parametric Equalizer for a better sound response curve. Bass, Mid, & Treble can be adjusted in the 3-Band Parametric mode. 3-Band EQ Frequency Q-Factor Level Bass 60Hz, 80Hz, 100Hz, or 120Hz Wide 0.5, Medium 1.0, Medium 1.5, or Narrow. 2.0 -7 to +7 (+/-14dB in 2dB steps) Midrange 500Hz, 1.0kHz, 1.5kHz, or 2.5kHz Wide 0.75, Medium 1.0, Medium 1.25, or Narrow 1.5 -7 to +7 (+/-14dB in 2dB steps) Treble 7.5kHz, 10kHz, 12.5kHz, or 15kHz Wide 0.75 or Narrow 1.25 -7 to +7 (+/-14dB in 2dB steps) Note: The units stores independent EQ settings for each source (Disc, Tuner, Aux, USB, iPod, and Bluetooth). Loudness: Loudness introduces a special low and high frequency emphasis at low listening levels to compensate for the ear's decreased sensitivity to bass and treble sound at low volume. Media Xpander: Alpine's exclusive Media Xpander is engineered to bring out the musical details lost in compressed media, and it is adjustable per source to get the most out of your digital audio media. The Media Expander makes vocals or instruments sound distinct regardless of the music source. The FM radio, CD, USB, iPod/iPhone, Bluetooth, and Aux-input will be able to reproduce the music more clearly even in vehicles with a lot of road noise. Source Volume Level: The output level of each source is individually adjustable from -14 to + 14 dB. Display Features Detachable Face: The unit features a single front loading CD face that detaches from the chassis to deter theft. A hard plastic face case is provided to store the detachable faceplate. An optional soft face case (142DFC1X, sold separately) can also be purchased for this unit. A face-fixing screw is supplied for making the face non-detachable, if desired. 1-Line LCD Display: This unit is equipped with a 1-Line white-backlit LCD, so you can easily view AM/FM stations, CD-Text, and ID-3/WMA tag information. Text Display: Text information, such as the disc name and the track name, will be displayed if playing a CD text compatible disc. It is also possible to display the folder name, the file name, and the tag information, while playing a MP3/WMA disc. Text Scroll: This unit can scroll the disc and track names recorded on CD-Text disc, as well as the text information of MP3/WMA files, folder names, and tags. There are two Text Scroll settings. Auto: The CD text information, the information of folder and file names, and the tags are scrolled automatically. Manual: The display is scrolled when a disc is loaded or when a track is changed. Auto Dimmer: This unit is equipped with an illumination lead (orange); when the unit's dimmer mode is set to Auto and the illumination lead is connected to your vehicle's headlight circuit, the display and button illumination will dim to a fixed, preset level whenever the headlights are turned on. If preferred, you may choose the Manual dimmer mode setting, so the display and button illumination is dim at all times. Demo Mode: This unit has a demonstration feature for its display which can be turned On or Off in the menu. Remote Control Steering Wheel Remote Compatibility: The head unit features an OEM steering wheel remote control input on the rear of the unit that lets you keep your vehicle's factory radio steering wheel remote controls when used with an optional steering wheel audio control adapter (sold separately). Please consult Crutchfield's Outfit My Car to see if your vehicle is compatible. Optional Wireless Remote: The Alpine CDE-143BT is wireless remote control ready. Simply add on the Alpine RUE-4202 IR remote (500RUE4202, sold separately) to make it even easier to control the head unit's functions. 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Filter by rating: 5 Star: (0) 4 Star: (0) 3 Star: (0) 2 Star: (0) 1 Star: (0) 5 out of 5 Featured Packed for the Money Written By EMTJJP, Dalton, MA on Monday, April 21, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Purchased this head unit to replace the factory unit in my 2008 4Runner. I wanted something with bluetooth streaming to listen to iheart radio off my phone (Samsung S4). I was always a Kenwood Excelon guy, until I saw the Alpine power pack, which I knew I had to try (see seperate review). And of course, I had to purchase from Crutchfield, as I always do. The unit is built well and looks good. I am not into flashy displays or blinking colors, so this unit is perfect for me. The install was easy, and setup was just as easy. Bluetooth paired with my phone without issue, and does every time I turn the unit on. Music sounds great, and bluetooth audio is clear and not muddy. Calls sound good on both ends, but there are quite a few of adjustments that I still want to play with. The only downfall is the hours of "fine-tuning" my sound that I am looking at for the next month or so. Not the receivers fault though. You really can't beat this unit for the money. And there are plenty of tuning options even without the Alpine app on my phone. Pros: Clean design, easy to use. Love the rotary control knob. Simple yet effective design. Bluetooth sound quality, and ease of connection. Cons: It doesn't automatically tune itself to how I like the sound.....just kidding, none of them do that. No cons for me on this unit. Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Alpine CDE-143BT Written By Tom, Tacine, WI on Sunday, April 20, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Easy install, great sound and hands=free phone works great Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Great Stereo Written By RayM, Mobile AL on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 The wireless Bluetooth capability is awesome. Being able to use the head unit to select songs on my Iphone and Ipod is a driving safety feature that is invaluable. I can navigating the different options and audio settings with ease using the large tuning knob. The three band equalization gives me all the crystal clear sound I love to hear. I love being able to balance the volume and tonal qualities between the radio, CD, and Ipod. Very easy to install. Pros: Price point, features, sound quality Cons: None Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Great radio Written By Rob, Mannford, OK on Wednesday, April 09, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) I really took time and looked at a lot of radios, I ended up with this Alpine and really enjoy using it. Pros: If your looking for an inexpensive radio with lots of extras, this is it Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Alpine CDE-143BT Written By Casey, Colorado on Monday, April 07, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) works good and sound great even with stock speakers Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 alot of bang for the buck Written By jjo, cookeville tn on Wednesday, April 02, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Head unit has a lot to offer for the money , very easy too use . Pros: a lot of features for an entry level head unit. Cons: n/a Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Alpine CDE-143BT Written By Anonymous, Jackson, TN on Monday, March 31, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Great product. Instructions were spot on. A very easy install. Pros: See above Cons: No Cons Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Even and old man can do it. Written By David G, Odebolt IA on Monday, March 31, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) This is a great product. I paired mine with a Alpine KTP-445A Power Pack and got and very nice unit with all the power I'll ever need, and with all the free wiring and dash kit supplied I actually had fun installing it in my 04 Ram 1500 quad cab. USB port, Blue Tooth for my phone.....I could go on and on. I love it. Pros: Easy Easy Easy Cons: None yet. Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Alpine CDE-143BT Written By GENLREL, Hollywood, FL on Saturday, March 29, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Nice product, great quality, serves my needs well. Pros: Installation VERY simple and easy, thanks to included kits and directions. Works well with iPhone 5S & iPad 4th gen I'll be back [for my next car]. Cons: None yet, or anticipated Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 4 out of 5 Alpine CDE143BT Written By Klutch, Avon, IN on Thursday, March 27, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Solid deck for the price, a lot of features for the money. Fairly easy installation, took a couple of hours but that is mostly due to the 01 Expedition I installed it in. Nice large display, easy to read clock, illuminates nicely. Crutchfield service was top notch. Sound is good but get some distortion on high level notes, haven't had a chance to troubleshoot yet. I paired this deck with Kicker 6x9's and much improved over factory set up. Pros: iPod compatibility, nice easy to read display Cons: Little difficult to navigate all the features but eventually you figure it out Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 best deal u can get Written By lando, Rhode Island on Monday, March 24, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) From stock radio to an alpine, easy to install. Pros: anybody can do it don't take your car anywhere. Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Alpine CDE-143BT Written By Anonymous, San Tan Valley, AZ on Monday, March 24, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Very pleased with quality of unit and ease of installation. Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 4 out of 5 Alpine CDE-143BT Written By Wester, Elko, NV on Sunday, March 23, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Great Radio. Easy to install and use. Pros: Just needed a simple and useable radio with my Ipod. Works great. Cons: None Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Alpine-CDE-143BT Written By Daniel, Queens, NY on Sunday, March 23, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) As I received it only a few days ago on past Thursday. Friday after work, I did the first stage which was remove the front panel which held my factory car stereo. That evening, I switched out the factory car stereo with the alpine. And yesterday , I wired up the 2 harnesses , and placed it into my car, I did a test check first, turn on the key, I saw alpine display come on the car stereo. Removed key, finally reattach the panel which held my new alpine car stereo. Everything worked on the first try! Pros: Easy to use and operate Cons: None Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 4 out of 5 Alpine CDE-143BT Written By Anonymous, texarkana, ar on Sunday, March 23, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Bluetooth works decent. Skips once on the first use of the day for some reason (Android). One thing I really like about it is its capability to up the MP3's sound quality/fullness lost through compression. One thing I really dislike about it is the volume knob is also used to jump to a other tracks on a cd when pushed in. I drive an old bouncy truck and simply turning down the volume can turn into a fiasco. I'll accidentally press the knob, spin it which sends me to other tracks on my cd, have to press the knob again just to get it to go away and then turn down the volume (unless I hit another bump, in which case I go back through it). Pretty big deal to me when I'm driving and can't commit alot of time to looking at what I'm doing with the cd player. Still pretty new to it. Everything else is primo. Powers two Kicker 40cs6934. Pros: Tons of features Affordable Not too flashy. No dash rainbow nonsense Very expandable Cons: Ergonomics Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Solid product, a few blemishes Written By Maple Leaf Locksmith, Seattle, WA on Saturday, March 22, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) This is a very good receiver. I looked at what all of the receivers were offering before I settled on this one. The features it has at this price point are really good. I wanted hands free calling, hd radio, and bluetooth music streaming capabilities. It delivered all of these at a low price point. I didn't even need the cd player, that was just gravy. Pros: Easy to set up, pair stereo with phone. Much easier than, say, my boss's new ford pickup factory stereo. Good sound quality. I tested this unit against other much pricier ones at Car Toys with the same speakers, using source material that is easy to hear problems with (flac record rips with lots of triangles and other percussion) Sound will always be better from this than anything you can produce in a vehicle probably. Cons: The mic included seems to be really weak, people have a terrible time understanding me. I have played with the levels of the mic but still have to put it right next to my head or pull over and switch off bluetooth for important convos. The battery indicator always displays the same thing on the stereo's lcd. They may as well not include it. Sometimes bluetooth doesn't resume playing, even after pushing play/pause. You have to cycle through the sound sources back to bt audio to resume playin Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Alpine CDE-143BT Written By James H., Chickamauga, GA on Saturday, March 22, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) This is my second alpine CD player. This one performs as well as the other unit. Pros: Has most of the features higher end units have Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 3 out of 5 Alpine Written By wdy, Jackson, Ga. on Saturday, March 22, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) OK receiver. FM stations that are a little weak, little or no reception. Pros: USB and Aux works great. Cons: Controls will take a long time to get use to. FM stations have poor reception for my vehicle. Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 ALPINE!!!! Written By Feury001, Maryland on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Product works great. Hands free is quality, and the functionality with today's electronics is great! This unit packs a punch for the wattage. I paired with some Polk speakers for my 2001 f150 and couldn't be more pleased. Pros: It's an Alpine. Cons: Nine Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Alpine CDE-143BT Written By BBB Jr, Jamestown,Pa 16134 on Friday, March 07, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) I placed this radio in my 1997 Ranger Pick-up and the quality is so my better then the radio in my New 2013 Ford Focus. The ease of installation was suburb, the support help I receive from you folks excellent. If I could purchase a New car without paying for a radio I would and have Crutchfield supply the radio witch is a better bargan. Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 4 out of 5 Alpine CDE-143BT Written By kya, lawnside, NJ on Friday, March 07, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Good head unit for the price Pros: Great sound quality Cons: Bluetooth skips sometimes Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Alpine CDE-143BT Written By Blaine, Anaconda MT on Wednesday, March 05, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) haven't really got to try it out yet (weather!!) but it looks great and I'm sure it will be fine. Thanks for the great service Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 4 out of 5 Cant beat what you get for the price Written By BMace, Albany, NY on Monday, March 03, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Easy to install - but that really goes to Crutchfield for their support kit and instructions! I have installed over a dozen car audio systems over the last few years and this was a simple replacement for a stock broken Bose system that came with the car. I should not have waited 10 years to do this! The sound is much clearer, the deck offers much more flexibility for audio control, it has USB front port that also charges, front Aux input for our DVD player, connects to our iPhone for music and has Bluetooth phone capabilities - which works flawless by the way! Wish I could use my steering wheel buttons, but the interface module is more than half what I paid for this unit! I highly recommend this to replace any stock stereo... even my older premium Bose!!! Pros: Features! Price! Audio quality! Cons: OK build quality... plastic feel. Display could be better, but not at this price! A little trouble with the frame mount (flimsy) but managed to get it to work just fine. Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Alpine CDE-143BT Written By Anonymous, Oak Hill, ohio on Monday, March 03, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Awesome very impressed. The Bluetooth works flawlessly. Get in your vehicle music from your phone is playing and NO CORDS! Pros: Easy operation. Sound quality. Cons: None Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Alpine CDE-143BT Written By Anonymous, Atlanta, GA on Saturday, March 01, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Installed easy, sounds good and looks good in 4runner. It is perfect if you are looking for an inexpensive radio with some useful features. Pros: Easy to install. Bluetooth works great. Cons: Difficult to control Ipod Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 4 out of 5 Alpine CDE-143BT Written By JohnO, Sonora, CA on Saturday, March 01, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Great sound and features for the price. Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 A great unit Written By AaronG, Daytona on Tuesday, February 25, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) I bought this unit for 03 focus. I have had this unit in my car now for about a month and I could not be happier. The main reason for my choice of this unit was the blue tooth capability. Followed by the USB iPhone/Pod control and AUX input. I was tired of not being able to use my phone with my stock head unit. Since I have installed this unit I noticed an immediate increase in the sound quality from my stock speakers. The radio quality is great as well, but I rarely use that now since I am streaming music from my phone. The advanced BT control is great, I can leave my phone on the passenger seat and not have to pick it up to change songs, my fiance has a '13 Dodge and the BT is basic streaming only. Because of the Blue Tooth I have not used the USB port at all, and I plan on buying a thumb drive and loading my music on that and just leave it there. The only problem I have run into, it has only happened once, was when I first went to pair my phone with the stereo it wasn't playing any audio, I plugged my phone into the USB port and swapped sources, and had music, then I hit the source button and the BT was playing audio. Not sure if I did something wrong with the initial pairing, but everything have been fine since then. I am very pleased with my purchase. Pros: Advance Blue Tooth control Improved sound quality from factory speakers after install Easy to read display Cons: Initial problem with Blue Tooth audio after first time pairing, swapped input, swapped back to BT and I have never had that problem again. Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Alpine CDE-143BT Written By frank m, derry nh on Sunday, February 23, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) fit right in the dash, worked the way it is supposed to, right out of the box!! Pros: once set up it is easy to use Cons: owners manual is over 47 pages. Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Great head unit! Written By Jay, Rocklin, Ca on Friday, February 21, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) This head unit is great, takes the quality of sound in my Jeep Wrangler to a whole new level with the aftermarket speakers. Overall it took about an hour ( wiring the adaptor, pulling the trim panels, pulling the stock radio and mounting bracket and installing the new radio) so there's no reason not to install on your own! As per usual the Crutchfield team was unbelievably helpful and extremely knowledgable. Highly recommend the unit, it's solid, the Bluetooth is simple as can be, and installation is easy enough for a beginner. Pros: Great wattage for speakers Bluetooth is easy and self explanatory Installation is simple User friendly Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Alpine CDE-143BT Written By Anonymous, Orange, CA on Thursday, February 20, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) The receiver was easy to install and configure. The bluetooth works great Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Great Simple, Functional Head Unit Written By Chase, California on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) I just wanted to replace the head unit in my stock 2003 Honda Civic. This was a great value and does everything I need it to do. It enables me to use bluetooth, connect my devices with an aux or usb, play CDs, and listen to the radio. It puts out enough power to make my replacement kicker 2-way speakers sound good throughout my car. It even has the RCA hookup to plug in a Subwoofer. Everything works great and is pretty easy to master. Pros: Good functionality and look for the price. Easy installation especially with the Crutchfield instructions and tech staff. Cons: The bluetooth doesn't pair all the time. It might be my phone. I am not sure. Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 4 out of 5 Nice upgrade for a reasonable price Written By Chuck, Oceanside CA on Monday, February 17, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Having the capability of playing music and podcasts from my iphone, and talking on a true hands free connection make the unit worth the price alone. The voice quality on the BT hands free is much better for the caller and receiver than other units that I have tried, and making the calls is very easy. The music sound quality through my stock 2003 tundra speakers is about the same or a little worse than the stock system. The bass response is noticeably weaker. Maybe this has something to do with bypassing the factory amp, I'm not sure. My next step is to upgrade the speakers and maybe add an amp. The unit has tiny buttons with lettering that can't be read from the drivers seat. My vision is 20/20 corrected with fairly weak glasses, and I'm not that old! Each button has about 3 functions that add to the complexity. You really need to just memorize the positions and functions of the buttons and hope that you can hit the right one while keeping your eye on the road. In contrast, the factory head unit was a double DIN which allowed space for large buttons, a logical layout, and TWO KNOBS like a radio should have. This was a big step backwards in terms of ease of use. Pros: Nice features and a very reasonable price. Cons: Confusing tiny controls. The removable face has cheap looking catches that make me wonder how long they will last, and the face does not always snap on properly the first time, making the display blink on and off because the contacts don't connect firmly. 1 out of 1 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes | No


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Although by no means great in Little Cup, Deerling is salvageable due to its unique typing and stats. Deerling reaches 17 Speed and 16 Attack with an Adamant nature, more than enough to dent common Pokemon such as Staryu. Access to Baton Pass as well as Work Up, Agility, and Substitute make Deerling a potent user of Baton Pass, which is supplemented by its unique typing and surprising bulk. Sap Sipper is a cool ability for Deerling, as it allows it to switch in on Spore from Shroomish or Giga Drain from Lileep and get an Attack boost that it can immediately Baton Pass away or use for itself. Deerling also has a pretty good physical movepool, with coverage options such as Nature Power and Jump Kick, along with STAB Return and Seed Bomb. If Vulpix were not banned, Deerling would truly be a threat to be reckoned with, but as things stand now, Deerling is an average Pokemon with just enough of a niche to function in Little Cup.
Deerling is able to run a good Choice Scarf set due to its solid coverage. Deerling reaches 25 Speed with an Adamant nature, enough to outrun every unboosted Pokemon in the metagame, as well as prominent Choice Scarf users, such as Snover and Chinchou. A resistance to Water-type attacks allows Deerling to take on Chinchou and Staryu quite well, as it only fears the rare Ice Beam or Scald burn. Return is capable of 2HKOing Mienfoo and Axew, and is also a good attack to throw around if the opponent's Ghost-type is defeated. Double-Edge is a stronger alternative that is capable of OHKOing Choice Scarf Mienfoo on the switch. Seed Bomb is a reliable STAB move that can hit Water- and Ground-types super effectively, giving Deerling a way to hurt Staryu, Frillish, and Drilbur. Jump Kick allows Deerling to hit Scraggy, Snover, and Ferroseed super effectively, as well as giving it an attack to hit other Normal-types hard. Nature Power is slightly more useful in the last moveslot in order to hit Croagunk super effectively, as well as Fire-types such as Ponyta and Houndour. Nature Power also has the unique ability of ignoring Sucker Punch, which allows Deerling to revenge kill boosted Pawniard easily. Wild Charge is also useful to hit Flying-types such as Murkrow and Drifloon super effectively. It is worth noting that without Wild Charge, Drifloon can switch in for free, as it will fear none of Deerling's attacks.Team Options & Additional Comments >>>
Access to Agility and Work Up allow Deerling to carve itself a niche with Baton Pass. Deerling's Grass typing allows it to set up on common Water-types such as Staryu and Chinchou easily. Agility is particularly easy to Baton Pass because Deerling hits an amazing 36 Speed after a boost, outspeeding every common Pokemon. Despite what would seem like a crippling weakness to Fighting-types, Deerling has enough bulk to survive three Mach Punches from Timburr, as well as Fake Out + Drain Punch from standard Mienfoo, allowing it to escape with ease. Seed Bomb is used in the last slot in order to get around Taunt, as well as hit Water-types. Substitute can be used if you want to focus purely on Baton Pass.Team Options & Additional Comments >>>
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Deerling has access to Chlorophyll, and can sweep quite effectively when the sun is blazing. Deerling lacks Swords Dance, which is a key part of what makes its evolution effective. Instead, Deerling has access to Work Up to boost its Attack to respectable levels, often enough to sweep. However, the lack of a Drought user in Little Cup means that a sweeper set would need a lot of support to work. Deerling can act as a cleric due to its access to Aromatherapy, but is generally poor at this due to its only average bulk. A SubSeed set can be used well, but Deerling's weaknesses to Fighting-type attacks, as well as the presence of Snover, generally means that it will not accomplish much. Deerling has a wide support movepool, with attacks such as Thunder Wave, Sunny Day, and Reflect at its disposal. However, a support Pokemon weak to Fighting-type attacks is terrible in Little Cup. Cottonee has a wider support movepool, higher defenses, as well as Prankster, effectively outclassing Deerling at any kind of defensive role. A bulky set that uses Thunder Wave alongside offensive attacks is viable, but generally outclassed by Grass-types that aren't weak to Fighting types such as Shroomish and Foongus. They also have access to Spore, which leaves Deerling's Speed as its only advantage. Deerling could possibly run a set utilizing Work Up and Synthesis, but will not pull off a sweep very often due to its recovery being gimped by Hippopotas and Snover, as well as the presence of Mienfoo and Timburr as cornerstones in the metagame.
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Fighting-types are far and away the best counters to Deerling. Eviolite Mienfoo can tank any move that Deerling has and retaliate with Drain Punch, recovering HP in the process. Timburr can set up on Deerling with ease, as well as outright defeat it with Mach Punch. Croagunk must be wary of Nature Power, but can use the combination of Fake Out and Vacuum Wave to defeat Deerling. Fire-types such as Larvesta and Ponyta can threaten Deerling with Flare Blitz and Will-O-Wisp, though Ponyta must look out for Nature Power. The Baton Pass set is easily defeated by Pokemon with Taunt. Murkrow and Cottonee both resist Seed Bomb and have Prankster Taunt to stop Deerling in its tracks. Ghost-types such as Misdreavus and Drifloon can switch in with ease and retaliate with Hidden Power Fighting and Acrobatics, respectively. Their presence also makes Jump Kick a very risky move for Deerling to use. Bronzor is a great counter because it resists every move Deerling carries except for Jump Kick and Wild Charge, and can weaken Deerling slowly with Psychic.


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Why Retirees Should Stop Blaming the Federal Reserve
Fed policies have helped many of the same people complaining about low savings rates.
If the fire department saved your house from burning down, would you complain that the firefighters got your carpets dirty?
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When it comes to the economy, the Federal Reserve is the fire department. The Fed has done more than any institution over the last few years to keep the economy from melting down and set the stage for a revival. It's been ugly work. The Fed has clearly made some mistakes, such as being too forgiving of banks and failing to anticipate the backdraft caused by controversial decisions made in secret back in 2008 and 2009. But without low interest rates, quantitative easing, and other Fed maneuvers, we could easily still be in a recession, if not worse.
Aggressive monetary policy involves tradeoffs, and one of them is the harm caused to savers by low interest rates. With the worst ravages of the recession fading, there are now mounting complaints and frequent news stories about the Fed oppressing people living on fixed incomes. Most of the "victims" are innocent retirees, which makes the Fed look as heartless as the vampire squid itself, Goldman Sachs.
It's obviously true that the return on investments like certificates of deposit and money-market funds is paltry these days. CD rates, for instance, have plunged from nearly 5 percent in 2007 to a fraction of 1 percent today. But at the same time, the Fed has protected and in some cases artificially inflated assets held by the same people suffering from low interest rates. On the whole, most retirees are far better off.
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One thing the Fed pays close attention to is total household net worth, which the Fed measures in its quarterly "flow of funds" report. From 2007 to 2008, total net worth plunged from $65.2 trillion to $52.5 trillion, a devastating blow to consumers' wallets. That drop came from two things: home values that fell off a cliff and steep losses in financial assets such as stocks.
One of the Fed's unstated goals has been to reinflate total net worth, which literally amounts to putting lost money back in people's pockets. And the Fed has been remarkably effective. It's hard to isolate a precise cause-and-effect relationship, but the Fed's "quantitative easing" policies since late 2007 have deliberately lured investors out of the safest investments and into riskier ones like stocks.
Here are the results: Since bottoming out in 2009, the stock market has more than doubled, one of the most powerful rallies on record. Bonds have rallied too, with U.S. treasuries returning an average of 8.5 percent in 2010 and 16 percent in 2011, according to data compiled by New York University's Stern School of Business. The total value of financial assets held by American households has rebounded from $42.2 trillion in 2008 to $49.1 billion in 2011.
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The Fed has had a harder time restoring home values, with low rates failing to trigger the sort of demand for homes the Fed would like to see. Fed officials have complained that a huge backlog of foreclosures, tight lending standards, and other factors beyond the central bank's control have stood in the way of a quicker housing recovery. The total value of real estate assets is still falling, from $23.2 trillion in 2008 to $18.1 trillion at the end of 2011. But that would arguably be worse if not for policies meant to make home buying more affordable and allow some homeowners to refinance, saving a couple hundred bucks a month or more.
The stock market gains since 2009 have come mostly from institutional investors following the Fed's lead. Many individual investors, however, were so spooked by the shocks of 2008 and 2009 that they parked their money in the safest place they could find. That was understandable, but it was also a classic investing mistake. "A lot of investors have an unwillingness to accept risk, even when it's prudent risk," says Mark Luschini, chief investment strategist for investing firm Janney Montgomery Scott. "Since 2009, the stock market has performed quite well, but a large constituency of investors has basically shunned the market."
It might be fair to fault the Fed for its typically opaque language, which left a lot of people wondering what to expect at a time of extreme volatility in the economy. In recognition of that, however, the Fed has recently pledged to be more forthright about what it plans to do.
Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, for example, has all but said that the Fed will carry out more quantitative easing if the economy weakens. That suggests the Fed will continue to prop up stock prices if they can't stand on their own. The Fed has also said it plans to keep interest rates very low until at least late 2014. You'd have to plug your ears to miss the obvious hint: Rates on CDs, bank accounts, and the like aren't going anywhere for a while, so look elsewhere if you want to earn more than 1 percent on your money.
The Fed, of course, could get it wrong, and there are plenty of people who think inflation could escape the Fed's control, forcing it to raise rates sooner than promised or hastily back out of its easing maneuvers. But there's also a time-tested mantra: Don't fight the Fed. Even if you think it's wrong. And even if you're retired.
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You need to have it sized
I had my beams sized at a lumber store (not HD or Lowes)
They even sent them out for an engineer stamp for free
I am starting to open the wall between my kitchen and my living room. This is a top floor with nothing above the wall in the attic except for 2x6 ceiling rafters running the 25' wide of the two rooms (two lengths of rafters that are nailed together directly above the wall I want to remove). The wall I want to open will be 22' in length between the two rooms.
I can either put a beam up in the attic and attach the rafters to that beam or I can have a beam below the ceiling but I would not want to go more than a 12'' below the ceiling.
Can someone tell me what size of beam I would need to use in this project? Thank you Duane
You need to have it sized
I had my beams sized at a lumber store (not HD or Lowes)
They even sent them out for an engineer stamp for free
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This may require some additonal considerations...essentially, instead of spreading the load over all of your floor joists, with a beam, it will be along the outer wall, maybe only one stud...not good. You may need to build up the wall structure at the ends down to the foundation to provide adequat support. To keep it shallow enough to meet your 12" requirement, you may need to go to steel...it WILL be heavy (as would any beam that length), and getting it in there may be one of the biggest problems you have. To keep the house from falling down, this must be engineered properly.
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Seems like you're in over your head. Get somebody who's done it many times before to do it. As well as get an engineer to write the plans and have it inspected. This is not a project that you should do any guesses with.
Don't follow my advice, I only know a thing or two about a thing or two.
Though I agree with all the comments posted 'til now (especially jadnashua's who realizes you can't solve the problem by only looking "up" at the problem), I also think the answer may not be a beam...
You surely will want an engineer's input regardless, but it could be significantly easier... that is, if I understand the problem without pictures, or sketches.
My assumptions from what you have posted:
- The wall you are removing is parallel to the ridge
- The rooms have vaulted ceilings on both sides of the wall
- This wall's top plate is directly supporting the rafters
- The wall you want to remove does not go the entire length of the ridge
OK, so assuming those are all true...
You do not need to support the rafters at the ridge... as long as you have something keeping the rafters from spreading. Basically, the roof load will be balanced quite nicely with the rafters in opposition, but without something holding the walls together they will push the walls apart. A typical house has ceiling joists to hold the walls from spreading, but a vaulted ceiling has no ceiling joists. The wall you want to remove isn't really keeping the walls from spreading (presumably other parts of the house are doing that), but it is keeping the ridge from sagging (and then pushing the walls out).
An engineer is likely going only going to suggest one solution: add rafter ties (or ceiling joists). A beam also would work, but will mean more work unless adding extra posts, hardware, and footings to support the beams doesn't involve opening up several extra finished walls and floors. (Need to worry about everything from squash-blocks in the floor diaphragm(s) to the soil properties below the foundation)
You will have to tell him/her where you want them... You can find prescriptive codes for rafter ties at I believe either 1/3 or 2/3 the rafter span (your "rafter span" is 12' 6" BTW), but I would still have an engineer do it, stamp it, and give you a fastener spec too (i.e. not just a few nails wherever you can squeeze a nail gun in). The lower down the rafter tie, the lower the force required to hold it together. If you want it quite high (i.e. within 12" of the peak), you will end up needing to have metal plates fabricated to sister on the joists.
You can also choose to add them lower down and either drop the ceiling or have the ties exposed.
There's a fine homebuilding or JLC from ~2007 sometime that talked about moving/removing collar ties and the tremendous forces he ended up dealing with.
Anyway, talk to an engineer/architect and have them design the best solution for your desired result. DON'T rely on the lumberyard to spec it. They will get the "correct" beam, but they won't take the whole picture into account and, generally, won't worry about taking a distributed load and making it a point load and cracking your foundation or your gable end wall blowing out during a big snowstorm.
BTW, it's pretty easy to size that beam if you know the designed roof load and the span (22'). It's not a secret for engineer's only (though it's outside of prescriptive codes, so in most parts of the country an engineer would have to spec it). For the reasons others have mentioned the answer to the specific question of what size beam is ignoring the rest of the problem. Specifically, ~14,000 lbs of a problem! (with a 40/10 roof load)
As a contractor (carpenter), I talk with clients about this kind of thing a lot. They usually are interested in getting their envisioned result only until the actual costs start adding up, then we work together to get a good result at a reasonable cost. If everything is torn up, then the beam is simplest, if they just want to play with cabinets and flooring and "open up that wall while you're at it" I'd probably float the idea of putting a flat top on the vaulted ceiling unless cost is not a priority (haven't seen too many of those jobs lately). Of course they usually ask me to price out their original option, which I'm happy to do after they pay for the engineering to tell me what they're asking me to build!
These are both articles from JLC, 2007 and hopefully shows how competent pros approach this kind of problem.
This is not quite the same roofing problem, but it is the article I was remembering. The main point is a creative solution to removing collar ties with steel:
I think in that same issue there was a little engineering blurb about loads increasing as collar tie height rises, but that's a bit beyond my memory and my "library" of old issues is not particularly organized or complete.
This one talks about using a low-profile beam, but mentions very little of the support lower down. Still might be interesting if you do hope for a "slim" beam:
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If I read his post correctly, the wall in question is a load bearing wall. He describes ceiling joists crossing the wall. Instead of one long joists, two shorter joists each land on the wall in question and are supported by it. If I am reading this correctly, a serious beam will be in order.
I did not understand his comment about putting the beam in the attic. How do you "hang" the joists from that?
You could using proper temporary supports each side, cut the joists so the beam will slide up into the ceiling, and then use joist hangars on each side.
No matter what, this job requires serious building skills, and engineered beam, and likely will result in some cracked ceiling plaster!
SoxFan, how do you know that the ceiling joists are not lapped at that wall, thus requiring that they BE supported? How would the 25' beam be inserted into the attic above the joists? The weight of the roof will no longer be supported by the bearing wall, but it plus the weight of the beam will shifted to whatever is supporting the ends of the beam, and those points were never designed to hold that load. EVERYTHING about this revision screams, "Call a mechanical engineer or professional contractor who knows how to do this job."
I assumed he knew the difference between joists and rafters... I guess that that was my mistake -- somehow I missed the "attic" comment.
If it's a standard-framed ceiling, it's a much easier problem... But, Duane, if you are having troubles with the basics then you should put down your hammer immediately!
Hi Seattle,
Thanks for you help. Maybe I better clarify. What I am looking to support is a ceiling joist. These are joists 16'' on center that go from outside wall to outside wall and the ceiling sheet rock is hung from this. This is also a flat ceiling. One room width is 13' and the other room is 12' and the joists overlap and are nailed together above the wall I would like to take out. I want to take out a 22' section of wall between the two rooms. There is no other load on top of the wall that I want to remove except the ceiling joists.
The roof rafters sit on the outside wall and angle up to the peak with no other support. I am trying to find out what size of beam I would need to use to support the joists. I went to my ******* and they told me that two 8" LVL would do the trick but I am a little leery. Hope this might explain more of what I would like to do. Duane
You need to span 22' 6"
You generally need triple 2x at either end to support the beam
But that is what an engineer will be able to specify
You also need to make sure that the support at each end of the beam will go all the way down to a foundation/support structure
Will either end be supported by the outside wall/foundation of the house?
One reason you will not receive much input as to the exact beam size is that every load is different & most people do not have access to the software that will size a beam this long
I had to go to 2x 12" LVLs' to support a 18x24 floor
That's more then just sheetrock - floor load
But gives an example
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Hey Scuba Dave,
Thanks for your help. I do have solid support under the the supporting studs. I had only planned on going with two 2x4 to mount the beam on but adding a third shouldn't be a problem. I would think two 8" lvl would be enough support but I may try talking with some other lumber yards to see if they can help me out. Duane
Often, the building inspector is going to want to see an engineer's stamp of approval on the plans, so you'll need to address that issue anyways...might as well do it now and ensure what you have will work. My earlier point is that now, that beam will be supporting the entire roof load along the studs on the outside wall. One stud, and maybe even three may not be enough. And, that support must be mirrored on the lower floor, if the floor of that room doesn't sit directly on the foundation. The ceiling joists are likely also acting like a collar tie holding the opposite walls from bowing out from the roof loads. This could cause both lift or weight on that joint in the middle...somebody that knows must 'run the numbers' for the entire system or you are at risk.
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2x8 LVL's do sound a bit undersized, but the beam is actually not under all that much stress. It's supporting the ends of the beam that will get the brunt of the load.
Any inspector is going to want a stamp unless it is clearly in the code already. LVL's are quite standard in construction, but their loads are not in the codes. You can get that stamp from the LVL manufacturer, but as was pointed out earlier, they're not going to stamp the support system or verify existing conditions. If the support is accessible to the inspector, the mftr's stamp could be enough.
I'm still not an engineer (happily), but I both like numbers and usually have to do some simple-span calcs on projects (though from 99% of the decks I see, that's apparently unusual). But since you've only got simple spans, let's take a stab...
If it is an uninhabitable attic area the load is only figured at 10lbs/sf (the joists themselves, drywall, lights, fans, etc.) In your case the ceiling load is: 550sf * 10lbs/sf = 5500lbs. 1/2 of that is carried on the two side walls, and the wall has the other half (2750lbs). The new beam is getting that load distributed over its length at about 125 lbs/lf. That's not a terribly sizable load, but you have a decent span at 22'.
Just for fun I looked it up at a manufacturer's site: http://www.ilevel.com/literature/TJ-9000.pdf. They don't list things like sistered beams in the documentation, but we'll assume it just doubles it as long as you follow their fastener spec. They don't even give a rating on 2x8 (1-3/4"x7-1/4") LVL's spanning 22' but looking at the charts it looks way undersized as it's only rated for 64plf @ 12' (we're looking for 1/2 of 125plf @ 22'). From what I can tell with that chart (p18 is what I'm looking at), 11-1/4 is what you're looking at (sistered or just 3-1/2") with its 148plf rating.
I'm sure the manufacturer has more details behind their charts and can specify and stamp. For instance, that chart assumes a floor load configuration with live loads that you don't have.
The walls that will support the beam are going to take the load at a point, so they get the new 1375lbs to deal with. That's not astronomical, but it needs to be figured with a continuous load path through the floor system down to the soil. A 4x4 can easily support that load (actually so can a 2x4) and 1sf of soil bearing is all that's required (assuming that's its only load), though I would probably make it 2'x2' if I'm cutting a slab for it.
One last comment... If you do end up with something like a 4x12, you can hang the joists from it, or leave them as is and put the new beam below. You have to support them temporarily in both cases, but you can create a flush beam if you have the attic space to "poke" the beam up into and hang the joists even with the bottom. You also can just leave a column or two (that you pretty up or hide as you wish) which will cut down the span and size requirements significantly... i.e. one center post would only require a single 1-3/4"x9-1/4" LVL! Ironically, the chart suggets sistered 2x8's are still insufficient in that case.
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When my lumber Co sized the beams they also sent the sized beams info out for an engineer stamp for free
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