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Need advice on shipping hot dogs..
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Location: edison, NJ
Need advice on shipping hot dogs..
Tue, 07/9/13 9:14 PM
My Mom's Birthday is coming. The food place I was going to get stuff from in Pennsylvania closed! Well, there's another place, but it's an hour further. No thanks.
So, I got the idea to drive to Mamaroneck, NY for Walter's Hot Dogs. Her Husband is from there.
My idea is to see if they will give me the dogs separate from the buns. Guess I'll put some paper towels in a Ziploc and put the dogs in there. In the other Ziploc I'll put the buns. They will give me mustard on the side, as they sell it in jars or bottles.
So, I was thinking in a 3rd and fourth Ziploc bag I'll put ice packs or gel packs and put those around the hot dogs.
It's being sent Express, which is 2 days travel to Hawaii.
Think this sounds okay? Dry ice is such a hassle to ship with.. need to get special box, get there before the dry ice place closes, then make it to the post office before they close, etc.
This way it'll be quick.. I'll have the box all ready to go. The shipping label all ready. Just get the hot dogs, shove them in, seal the box, and mail it. Then go back to order hot dogs of my own!
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Location: West Peoria, IL
Re:Need advice on shipping hot dogs..
Tue, 07/9/13 10:56 PM
Unless the hot dogs and regular ice (or "blue ice") are
surounded by a
of 2 inches of
styrofoam, there is
no way
it will keep cold for 2 days (
day, maybe). My recent experience: In one of the Coleman super-long-keeping coolers, I had some regular ice and blue ice with cold soda cans. In just
day half of the ice melted to water, and the blue ice got mushy. The cooler did not sit in the sun, and the room temperature never got above 80 degrees.
What guarantee do you have that your box won't set on a shipping dock in the sun for a couple of hours somewhere along the line???
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Joined: 9/1/2006
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Re:Need advice on shipping hot dogs..
Wed, 07/10/13 1:17 AM
Are the dogs precooked? Makes a big difference.
Don't use the post office, Use UPS Next Day Air.
If they're precooked and shipped next day air with some Cold packs in the box they'll be fine.
the shipping may cost more than the dogs, etc.---but Hey! It's Mom's birthday right?
<message edited by Foodbme on Wed, 07/10/13 1:18 AM>
Total Posts: 185
Joined: 2/17/2005
Location: edison, NJ
Re:Need advice on shipping hot dogs..
Thu, 07/11/13 9:59 AM
I'm definitely using USPS. They're cheapest, but A LOT LESS than UPS or FedEx. Express service is 2 days and only $39.95.
I've shipped my Mom pizza from New York City before.. that was over $200. I believe I ordered 2 pies, but I might have got 4. I can't remember.
I hadn't even thought of freezing the dogs first, but I asked Hawk Krall's opinion as well and he says a friend shipped him dogs. They were on the bun, with mustard and chili I believe. He froze them and put them 4 to a Ziploc bag and some gel packs or something. They lasted the 3 to 4 day trip to him and arrived partially frozen. He gave me instructions on how he re-heated them.
Put a mug of water in the microwave as well. This helped remove some of the "microwave weirdness".
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Location: edison, NJ
Re:Need advice on shipping hot dogs..
Mon, 08/12/13 10:00 AM
It's been awhile since I posted, but I wanted to share that my hot dogs arrived fine. I sent them priority mail (3 days to Hawaii) instead of express (2 days to Hawaii). I couldn't fit the mustard in the box and forgot, so I shipped it separate. The problem was the pickup was happening at 1PM. She said she'd make sure the hot dogs got on that truck, but I couldn't package and fill out the address in time to get the mustard on that truck, so it left at 4:30PM. The difference in time is the hot dogs got there in 3 days, mustard in 5 days.
I was !just! able to fit 12 hot dogs and some gel packs in a large box and it was bulging a bit.
I froze the dogs, I think I fit 6 in a large zip lock bag. I froze the gel packs and put them in zip locks as well. Layered them, gel, dogs, dogs, gel. I couldn't fit any more in. Around that whole thing I wrapped a plastic bag and taped it up.
I should have sent them express, but it was $39.95 opposed to under half that Priority.
The dogs arrived, thawed out, but they didn't feel hot as if they were sitting in a hot truck somewhere. My Mom ate them and she's still alive.
The dogs arrived on a Thursday and her Husband called and said "What are you having for lunch?". He never calls and says that. After the phone call my Mom realized he was hinting if the hot dogs came or not. He got home that night and didn't want to eat them until the mustard arrived.
Next time definitely express.
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The slogan carved on the façade of the Supreme Court building, "Equal Justice Under Law," is false. Women do not get equal justice.
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Anyone believe in this theory?
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They exist, who cares? They are kinda the international agnostic group for peace, I think its just religious nuts that fear them.
The Illuminati is just a sect of the Free Masons, which have done great things for the USA and overall its just a nice religious club. The Illuminati just like to push there agenda more, thats all, they haven't done anything the Catholic Church isn't doing right now.
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oh, well the free masons are still around but they DONT DO SHIT EVER
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My friend is a free mason and he helps fix up churches on weekends.
wow you know one of the 3 free masons who do anything. by the way what church needed fixing in PA? never heard of anything like that
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Its pipes busted a few years ago and I needed some roof work.
I never saw any Freemason do anything....because they are a secret society...they have to work at night with flashlights maybe
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The Illuminati are about as viable as the Ch'tauri secretly controlling the government, there's been conspiracy theories for centuries, very few, if any of them, have ever been proven.
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HOLLIDAYSBURG, Pa. — A man fatally shot a woman decorating for a children's Christmas party at a tiny church hall and killed two men elsewhere in a rural township on Friday before he was shot dead in a gunfight with state troopers.
Local law enforcement block off road along Rt. 22 near the Canoe Creek State Park, Pa. while investigating a shooting on Friday, Dec. 21, 2012. The suspect fired at troopers responding to Friday morning's shootings in Frankstown Township, about 70 miles west of Harrisburg. The fleeing gunman then crashed head-on into a trooper's car and got out of his truck and shot again at police, who returned fire and killed him. Blair County District Rich Consiglio says the gunman killed two men and one woman. (AP Photo/Altoona Mirror, J.D. Cavrich)
An ambulance from the Hollidaysburg American Legion Ambulance Servie leaves a shooting scene along Rt. 22 near the entrance to Canoe Creek State Park.
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Three troopers in patrol cars were injured in a pursuit that began after the gunman, driving a pick-up truck, fired at them, police said. One trooper injured a wrist and then was hit in the chest but was saved by a bulletproof vest.
The gunman was killed during a final exchange of gunfire after ramming his truck head-on into another police cruiser, authorities said.
The shootings began in Frankstown Township, in central Pennsylvania, at about 9 a.m., and investigators were processing five crime scenes within about a 1.5-mile radius, authorities said at a news briefing Friday afternoon. Troopers were responding to a 911 call of a shooting in the township when they heard calls reporting at least one other shooting elsewhere, state police said.
"It's going to take us some time to put this all together ... and know exactly what occurred," said Lt. Col. George Bivens, deputy state police commissioner.
Authorities did not release the names of the victims or the shooter, though they did say the man lived in Blair County.
State police said they were still trying to piece together a timeline and motive. The gunman and the victims weren't related, though the victims may have been, at least distantly, Blair County District Attorney Rich Consiglio said.
Besides the woman, Bivens said, one man was shot at a residence, and the other man was shot at a crash site where the gunman "used his truck and also struck that vehicle much in the same manner that he did to our state police officer."
But family members of the victims said they were told the woman at the church was the first victim shot, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported. The gunman then shot two men in the driveway of a home after a confrontation at a stop sign, one of the men's cousins, Marie Brenneman, told the newspaper.
"This person went to their driveway with a pistol, pointed at them and started shooting," Brenneman said.
She said both men were the shooter's neighbors in the tiny village of Geeseytown, about 70 miles west of Harrisburg, the state capital.
"They were uneasy around him," she said.
The woman at Juniata Valley Gospel Church had cooked food the day before for the funeral of the church's longtime pastor, said the Rev. James McCaulley, his brother. The church was still reeling from the Rev. David McCaulley's death when the woman returned to decorate its hall — named after the pastor of 58 years — and bullets ripped through a window, he said.
The gunman then entered and shot one of two women before he left, the reverend said.
Police identified the five crime scenes as the church; a home and ground around the home; a crash site where another victim was killed; the point in the road where the gunman opened fire on the troopers; and where the final encounter occurred after the truck collided with the police cruiser.
Bivens said investigators don't know if the victims were picked at random.
Besides the trooper wounded twice, a second trooper was injured by glass fragments in his eye and bullet fragments that hit him in the forehead, Bivens said. The third trooper suffered minor injuries from the head-on crash, he said.
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Congrats!! Welcome to StrongMoms! I'm so excited for you after a long journey - what a blessing this baby will be. I'm 24 weeks but I remember the early days of pregnancy and feeling that cramping feeling. It's a symptom of your uterus stretching and getting ready to grow. :-) Lots of times you may feel tired, somewhat nauseous, and maybe emotional. Hang in there and congrats again!
Welcome and Congrats! I hope you find this site to be as much comfort and help to you as it has been to me.... I don't remember anything except exhaustion and extreme smell induced nausia from the beginning of my pregnancy. I could seriously smell the stuff in my freezer... never thought i'd be able to smell frozen food. Anyway take it one phase at a time and you'll be delivering that baby in no time! What's your due date? it should be pretty close to my daughters birthday. What helped my pregnancy go faster and helped me cope was i focused on the holidays. This is an awesome time of the year to start a pregnancy because there are so many distractions not to mention you won't be huge through the hot months (this is a blessing). i just focused on making it through the nearest holiday and the next thing i knew i was holding a beautiful baby girl.
Thanks for the warm greetings. My due date is set at Jan 5th give or take a few days. Reason being I had an IUI done and my Dr is going by this date rather than the date of my last menstrual period. I actually had a lot of cramping last night that woke me up so I called the Dr this morning. He said he wants to recheck me tomorrow. I did not have any bleeding so that is a plus. Hoping all goes well as I want nothing more than a healthy baby!
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By Janelle Walker For The Courier-News November 22, 2012 11:28PM
Deal hunters gather outside the Elgin Target at 300 South Randall Road for its 9 PM opening on Thursday November 22, 2012. | Katherine Peters~For Sun-Times Media
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ELGIN — If your Black Friday — or Black Thursday this year — shopping plans brought you to Elgin's Super Walmart at 8 p.m. Thanksgiving night for door-buster sales, you were already too late to the cost-conscious party. But there were none of the protestors that night who apparently were going to make their points in front of other big box retail locations across the country over the long holiday weekend.
Since the Randall Road store was open all day Thursday, before 8 p.m. lines were already long and wrapped around the store's interior as shoppers waited for the OK to begin grabbing deals.
And at 8 p.m., the doors were shut as employees announced the store was already at capacity. The parking lot was full, and an unclaimed shopping cart couldn't be found. New shoppers were allowed in as other customers left with their finds.
Down the street at South Elgin's Super Target, the line was relatively small at 8:10 p.m. — nearly 50 minutes before the store was set to open for the evening. By 9 p.m., however, that line wrapped around the north side of the store, across the back of the parking lot, down the side of the adjacent L.A. Fitness, and in front of that building as well. At 9:20 p.m. there was not a spare cart to be found inside, but were quickly brought back in from the parking lot for the next customer to take.
Despite the crowds, everyone in line was in the store just 10 minutes after the doors opened.
No T-day protests
There were no protests visible at either store for their Thanksgiving Day opening as "Black Friday" sales continue to creep earlier and earlier and to more and more stores. K-Marts have been open on Thanksgiving for years, along with Walmarts and Targets. But others such as Big Lots, Old Navy and Gander Mountain joined them this year.
And that's not to mention bargains already to be found online.
The group Stand Up Chicago organized low-wage food and retail workers in the Chicago area to go out Friday morning and demand that employers raise the floor on wages and benefits. The demonstrations were supposed to include actions at 1,000 or so Walmart stores — including the one in Elgin — across the nation in an attempt to draw attention to labor issues and to unionize retail workers.
But while there has been grousing in the media and among some groups about shopping's intrusion onto Thanksgiving, hard-core bargain hunters Thursday night said they were OK with the early openings and that the event was part of their family's holiday tradition as much as turkey and cranberries were earlier in the day.
Dena Marquardt and her daughter, Melissa, both of South Elgin, were waiting in line for DVD and game deals. That line wrapped around the produce section for the sales — which were set up in the bakery area.
"We are here for the prices, the deals," Dena Marquardt said.
They went through all of the store ads early in the day and made an attack list — mapping out which stores had what items on sale and when. They expected to be out all night, hitting a total of eight stores with early deals.
Melissa Marquardt works at the South Elgin SuperTarget and said she was just glad she hadn't been scheduled to work. She had no problems with shopping on Thanksgiving, or seeing her coworkers scheduled for the night, and said, "When you work at a store like that it is expected."
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Near the front of the same line, Tyler Domsten, 21, of South Elgin, was hoping to pick up some of the games and movies he wanted for himself — "Brave" and "The Amazing Spider-Man."
He was waiting in line with his brother and another friend, all of whom have done the same thing in previous years.
Last year during Walmart's Black Friday sales, they got applause from other shoppers, Domsten said, after the guys lifted a ping-pong table over their heads and out the doors — the only way to maneuver through a dense crowd.
"I've never gotten applause for shopping before," he said.
Several people out Thursday night said they had game plans that included having relatives waiting in different lines on one store, or even at various stores up and down Randall Road.
"We will separate as soon as they say 'Go,'" said Errol Washington of Elgin. He was there with 10 different family members.
At SuperTarget, Brian Mayer and his wife, of Des Plaines, had been in line since 5:45 p.m. They were also the only people in line for the first 90 minutes. He had brothers and sisters spread out at different stores, many with lists their mother sent along with them.
That plan was similar to the one of Neha Parekh of Streamwood. Her brother was at Walmart and her husband was waiting at Best Buy for that store to open. They came to the Elgin area to shop as they were expecting smaller crowds, she said.
Their Thanksgiving dinner was rushed somewhat, Parekh said, because they had to drive to Elgin and get in line. But it's part of what her family does on the holiday, she added.
Overall, SuperTarget store team leader Geno Rio said the early bird crowds were pretty well-behaved, and he expected that to remain the same on Thursday night into Friday.
"We have great customers," he said.