Tell HN:  A 5 minute olfactory hack for the holidays - <AUTHOR>

Do you like the smell that a house has after a holiday meal has been prepared?  Spices, flavors, etc., topped off with the smell of pie baking?
Here's a simple way to create that smell in a few minutes.
Fill a pot half way with water and bring it to a boil.  Add the following:
- One Apple, chopped.
- A large dash of several of the following: Allspice, cloves, cardamon, cinnimon, cocoa powder
- A splash of vanilla, Grand Marinier, etc.
- A lemon if you have one.
- A few coffee beans
- Some rosemary if you want a more "dinnery" smell underneath.
The ingredients are all optional and should be tailored to your taste.
You can add fruit that you would have otherwise thrown away... it's at its most aromatic stage.
Let the pot boil (and add water to keep it from boiling dry).
The fragrant steam will fill your living space with holiday cheer. <comment><USER2> But a big part of the fun is the delicious, mouth-watering anticipation of discovering the source of those smells - the (disappointing) 'missing ingredient' here...

Addendum: rather harder to hack the aroma of freshly baked bread... ;-)

</comment><comment><USER3> I remember seeing something like this on the news as a child...though they pitched it as a way to fool your guests into thinking you cooked when you really ordered out.</comment>


China's 'One-Child' Rule Should Be Scrapped - <AUTHOR> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/20/opinion/chinas-one-child-rule-should-be-scrapped.html <comment><USER2> > "History will look back at China's one-child policy with bewilderment, even > disbelief."

History will look back on China and wonder why only China had any bloody sense.

> And they see it as a sign that the government in Beijing is finally catching > up with the times.

This whole article exults political perception above reality. Politics is a sickness.</comment>


Hackers claim to have stolen Pirates of the Caribbean 5 and demand ransom - <AUTHOR> https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/15/15644352/pirates-caribbean-5-hackers-demand-ransom-disney <comment><USER2> Disney will certainly be quite happy to have this much free advertising for a movie that is going to start being shown in cinemas in a few days.

It's hilarious to claim that the leak of Expendables 3 was the reason it flopped on the big screen. But of course, if I were responsible for the movie, I would clutch at any straw possible.

<comment><USER3> It's very much heads I win, tails you lose for Disney.

Free advertising (heck I didn't know this was coming out but now I'll probably see it), _and_ more ammunition to bend the law to prop up their business model.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> I wonder if the pirates think that this will really do anything. The people that were already going to pirate it, are going to pirate it, but now they can get a better source earlier. This isn't going to really affect people going to the movies to see it though; most people who pirate wouldn't have seen it in theaters anyway, and those that now know you can probably won't.

You can only ransom something if that something has value to the ransomee. I'm not a Disney exec, but I don't really think threatening to leak the movie has much value.

<comment><USER5> > I'm not a Disney exec, but I don't really think threatening to leak the > movie has much value.

Worst case is that the leak enables negative word of mouth before the films even hit a screen, but execs would only worry about that if they already were insecure about the film. Don't know if that's the case for PotC 5.

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> I don't buy it.

Watching a big-budget movie in a theater and watching a pirated version are two activities so dissimilar as not to affect each other at all.

If we were talking about Netflix shows, or DVD releases, then maybe piracy would impact the sales, but a big Disney movie? Nah.

These pirates are either stupid, or non-existent and created by Disney itself.

<comment><USER7> >Watching a big-budget movie in a theater and watching a pirated version are two activities so dissimilar as not to affect each other at all.

Dunno, I'd certainly go to the cinema much less if I could just download bluray remuxes on opening nights.

I'd say the biggest difference between the two is the fact that one is available for months before the other.

</comment></comment><comment><USER8> If they were threatening to force us to watch it, I'd say pay the ransom post- haste.

</comment><comment><USER9> The irony of pirates/thieves leveraging the populations interest in pirates/thieves in order to siphon money out of the most dangerous mental pirate of them all - the behemoth that programs (and compromises) the minds of children to dream of being a prince or princess, to elevate the self above others.

</comment><comment><USER10> I bet the author, Jacob Kastrenakes, was well chuffed when he got to write a headline like that.</comment>


Amazon and Hulu's algorithms are recommending conspiracy theory films - <AUTHOR> https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-hulu-feature-conspiracy-theory-films-like-loose-change-2019-2 <comment><USER2> I don't understand why they should be blocking this stuff, particularly if categorised correctly.

It's not like there isn't a bunch of misinformation and manipulation in mainstream media anyway.

Why not instead stop assuming everyone needs protecting from the 'bads' and let people make up their own minds (and sure, that won't go perfectly well). Creating some shows on how to do critical thinking might be a start...

This push to only give people only 'correct' information (as determined by who?) is as concerning as nut jobs pushing fringe conspiracy theories to a broader audience.

<comment><USER3> Yeah but people grew up in different perspectives on media. As a teenager I've seen Bowling for Columbine in the movie theater and also read books from Michael Moore which are highly manipulative already. Still, everybody hyped his work at the time and on first sight this was hard to get. At that time (early 2000s) other revealing documentaries became popular, for instance Zeitgeist. At the time it seemed a bit shallow and repetitive in context of similar productions, but I wouldn't ever have called someone watching this Conspiracy Theorist.

Today the landscape changed totally, those kinds of "documentaries" produced today are created at much greater pace and still reasonable professional quality, probably because both tools and creators got more professional. But what didn't change is, when you watch one of these films, I guess, it still seems reasonable to a degree. Of course they build on something tangible, like how currencies are created, what Fiat money is, the really crazy stuff comes then in subsequent episodes.

IMHO this is like a cult because a whole (social) network of websites is associated to this nowadays. But when stuff is hosted on YouTube etc. their rating system should at least provide an appropriate scam flagging on a community level.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> The 'Documentary' section of most streaming sites is filled with an abundance of garbage psudeoscience, environmental fantasy, and identity politics masqurading as progress. I sincerely wish companies would have some ethical stake to vet the information presented to their viewers as fact, or at least advise when the science is shaky at best. I would wager a majority of these films on Nflx and Amzn are based on easily falsifiable claims.</comment>


Special K, a Hallucinogen, Raises Hopes and Concerns as Treatment for Depression - <AUTHOR> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/10/business/special-k-a-hallucinogen-raises-hopes-and-concerns-as-a-treatment-for-depression.html <comment><USER2> It's amazing what great lengths some people will go to to stop others who might feel good from using a substance or performing an activity they are completely unfamiliar with. In America, at least, this seems to be much more ingrained in the culture than just about anything else. The really sad part is that even if this is in pursuit of saving lives, like the therapy mentioned in the article and many others, most people have absolutely no qualms about speaking out against it or trying to stop it. It seems, if it were up to the prevailing mindset in this country, everyone should live in absolute misery and pain. Drug companies wanting to develop non-generic drugs for profit reasons is one thing that's at least understandable, but the people who support such hate of others' potential at an enjoyable (or at least not horrific in the case of depression) life is just disgusting.

<comment><USER3> While it's certainly very true that there are people who just want to ruin everyone else's fun out of spite, this situation is more complicated because there really are problems with uncontrolled administration of drugs, even ones we have studied for other purposes. There a many reasons why people in the article are stressing the need for trials.

Even if we just stick to ketamine, there are many questions. First, is this better than the current standard of care? Is it better in the short term, long term, or both? How much better? Should we discontinue drugs like SSRIs altogether? Are people dying (committing suicide, in this case) because this is a fringe treatment and not the standard of care?

Second, while we clearly already use it as an anesthetic, we don't know what the effects or dangers might be for this kind of use. Is repeated administration (as seems necessary) a health problem? Are side effects like hallucinations just temporary, or is the brain altered in some way permanently? There are drugs that, the longer and more frequently you take them, the more likely you are to have actual permanent problems (some antipsychotics, for example).

Doing any kind of controlled study with humans is inherently difficult, and in some cases impossible (this is why we know so little about nutrition). But not doing controlled studies and carefully assessing the value of a treatment can be just as catastrophic as ignoring something that seems to work. And you can't go with your gut on these things, or we end up with antivaxers and dead people when we should have just done the study(s) the right way from the start.

<comment><USER4> Your argument is basically that it's generally a good idea to make sure a medical treatment is safe and effective before undertaking it. That's hardly controversial. What does not follow _at all_ is that Ketamine should be banned, or that medical researchers should have to jump through D.E.A hoops to do research.

<comment><USER5> _What does not follow at all is that Ketamine should be banned, or that medical researchers should have to jump through D.E.A hoops to do research._

Ketamine isn't banned. And it's not all that controlled compared to other drugs (Schedule III). You'd have a harder time running a trial for morphine than you would for ketamine.

<comment><USER4> OK, schedule III isn't so bad, but afaiac, if I can't buy it at Walmart, it's banned.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> I have never done ketamine. But a hit of MDMA was kind of instrumental in lifting me out of twenty years of depression.

<comment><USER7> Which is interesting because of the SSRI I'm on all MDMA did was make me grind my teeth really bad. I want to try it again but don't want to stop the SSRI to do so.

<comment><USER8> You took MDMA while on an SSRI? You really should research a drug's mechanism of action and how multiple drugs may interact before taking them together.

Im not a medical professional, I just want to give you a quick overview so you don't repeat that mistake. Do your own research.

\- An SSRI (Selective Serotonin Re-uptake Inhibitor) blocks your brain's re- uptake of serotonin and effectively increases your brain's levels of serotonin.[1]

\- MDMA acts as a presynaptic releasing agent of serotonin. Increasing the amount of serotonin in the synaptic cleft (space between neurons).[2]

\- That means the two of these drugs combined can cause a huge spike in serotonin and potentially lead to serotonin syndrome (toxicity).

Be safe.

[1] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_i...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor)

[2] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDMA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDMA)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> Another place where ketamine has been used "off label" has been in the treatment of Complex Regional Pain Syndrome (CRPS) formerly called Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD), "causalgia", or Reflex Neurovascular Dystrophy (RND).

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_regional_pain_syndrome#...](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_regional_pain_syndrome#Ketamine)

Edit: I'm not sure why this nytimes article is being considered "news" on HN since topic has been discussed here quite a few times over the last three years.

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4043198](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4043198)

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4615602](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4615602)

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5116706](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5116706)

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5758647](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5758647)

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7522343](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7522343)

<comment><USER10> Still Called RSD by many :) I am upvoting and commenting to spread awareness about CRPS. It is one of the most terrible disorders that a human can ever endure and it is insane that the use of ketamine has not been accepted as a non-expiremental treatment for it. My wife just finished a two day ketamine booster yesterday, and without the use of ketamine she would not be able to walk or even open and close her hands. Nothing else has ever helped her CRPS and ketamine has improved her quality of life in immeasurable ways. Yet we still have to pay for every single dollar of every single treatment out of pocket. So glad we are forced to pay for insurance that won't even acknowledge thousands of dollars a year of medical spending for necessary treatments.

<comment><USER5> Have you tried appealing to your insurance company about coverage?

Insurance companies won't cover most drugs when used "off label". However, the doctor is allowed to appeal by providing peer-reviewed article supporting the use.

It's a hell of a lot of paper work, but most of the folks at insurance companies (I work with them a lot) are pretty reasonable people. Their default is to deny, but if you can build a strong enough case they will often cover it.

It's not like ketamine is all that expensive. Hell, I've seen people get covered for "off-label" use of oncology drugs that are $100K+/yr.

<comment><USER10> Yes, multiple times to multiple companies. It is not about the cost of the drug itself, it is the cost of administration. This isn't just a bottle of ketamine pills, it is an IV infusion in a hospital setting.

<comment><USER5> Sorry to hear that! Are you appealing or is your doctor? Just curious.

<comment><USER10> Both

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER11> Alternative headline: "Ketamine, a commonly used anaesthetic drug long on the WHO's list of essential medicines, raises hopes and concerns as treatment for depression"

But that headline would be way too long.

<comment><USER12> Not only that, it's not a hallucinogen. It's a /dissociative/ anesthetic. About the only other thing commonly used that has similar effects is dextromethorphan hydrobromide - the primary ingredient in over the counter cough syrup.

<comment><USER13> It's a dissociative hallucinogen.

[http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen](http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER14> Just goes to show that the difference between medical use and recreational use is really in the set, setting, dosage, and means of ingestion!

Ketamine is already very commonly used medically, because it is relatively safe (compared to other similar dissociative anesthetics) and has a very short half-life, making it a good choice for certain procedures.

Unlike many anesthetics, ketamine does not suppress breathing much. Combined with the fact that it is a bronchodilator, it can be used in many situations for which other anesthetics would be risky or inappropriate.

If you've had a colonoscopy[0], there's a good chance you've already had ketamine, just not in the same doses that you would have taken at a club!

[0] Which, if you're over the age of 50, you should do! Colon cancer is very treatable if it's caught early.

<comment><USER15> I had noticeable psychosis courtesy of ketamine in the ICU after being run over by a truck. Likely having a broken pelvis etc. didn't contribute to a positive trip, of course, but I would be very reluctant to take it again (not that anyone asked at the time - or that I could have answered sensibly). But like most psychoactives, dosage is key...

<comment><USER5> The WHO lists ketamine as a "essential medication" since it is an ideal anesthetic for countries with limited resources. It's quite safe (doesn't depress breathing) and effective.

However, as you noticed, _many_ folks who are treated with ketamine find the experience very unpleasant. Unless there is a good reason for using it as an anesthetic, doctors typically go with other drugs.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER16> They're also looking into using buprenorphine (which I take daily as suboxone as treatment for my previous addiction) for depression. Anecdotally, it's pushed my horrendous depression into remission entirely since I began on it.

[http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/major-depressive- disorder/qa...](http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/major-depressive-disorder/qa- buprenorphine-treatment-resistant-depression)

</comment><comment><USER17> One thing I don't see in the comments is direct testimony (standard caveats apply).

Anecdotally, I can tell you this works. And it's not just incremental improvement, it's a night and day difference.

I wouldn't normally comment on this but it seems unethical not to when so much is at stake.

</comment><comment><USER18> I've always heard that Special K is a dissociative, not a hallucinogen. This has been confirmed with my experience with it as well. It's the only drug I've every tried where I can float above myself and look down on my body, but I've never seen anything that really wasn't there, no matter how much I've taken.

<comment><USER19> ". It's the only drug I've every tried where I can float above myself and look down on my body" would certainly be a hallucination.

Ketamine is both a dissociative (it makes you feel disconnected from your body) and a hallucinogen (it can cause visual patterns or images to appear that are not parsimonious with what you would normally see).

It becomes far more hallucinogenic (or psychedelic preferentially) when you "khole".

<comment><USER18> Cool. Thanks for the clarification. Whatever it is, it sure is "special". (in a good way)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER20> If anyone is interested in the sordid history of the prescription and prohibition drug dichotomy, I highly recommend "This is Your Country on Drugs."

The book details how the drug war came to be as a political and economic tool to expand government power and create pharmaceutical monopolies, not primarily for consumer safety.

<comment><USER21> Thanks for the recommendation.

</comment></comment><comment><USER22> My mother has had Ketamine injections for fibromyalgia. It wasn't successful in managing her pains.

I have done Ketamine once, and all I felt was... drunk. As opposed to psilocybin which changed my worldview heavily and taught me a lot about myself.

<comment><USER23> Everyone reacts different to medications, that's why there are so many of them, and why it's sometimes a problem for people with chronic problems to find the right one. I'm on my third anti-anxiety med, and I think I've finally found the right one, after the prior one made my depression worse and sapped what little motivation I had. There's no magic bullet in pharmaceuticals, that's one of the reasons there is constant research into the subject. More availability means a greater chance to find the drug that works.

<comment><USER22> Yes!

Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy that health professional are taking a look at drugs that are taboo. There is a wealth of potential in a lot of those substance!

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER24> On a side note, why does the following always get disclosed as a downside?

>Besides the psychoticlike effects, ketamine can raise blood pressure and heart rate.

Doesn't exercise or even caffeine do the same? Is it even worth mentioning this side effect unless it's for an abnormally long period?

<comment><USER25> If you already have problems with either of those you would want to know about them being possible side effects

</comment></comment><comment><USER26> Funny, this is new but there is this article from 2010: [http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/10/health/10depress.html?_r=0](http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/10/health/10depress.html?_r=0)

</comment><comment><USER27> Could have sworn Ketamine was classified as a dissociative. Maybe I was wrong.

<comment><USER28> You're not wrong - it's a terrible clickbait headline.

</comment></comment><comment><USER29> [http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29811499](http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29811499) [http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/25186316](http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/25186316)

Exercise extreme caution, the article doesn't even seem to acknowledge the seriousness of this at all...

<comment><USER30> The ketamine depression therapy operates with doses of no more than 100mg, taken once or twice a month.

Ketamine abusers typically consume well upwards of a gram, or a couple, daily.

This is a similar situation as the difference between having two glasses of wine on Sundays, and downing a fifth of hard liquor every day.

Edit: FYA: "Matt developed K bladder after taking as much as 15g of the drug a day."

Yeah...if anything, it's testament to the relative safety of the drug, if taking 150x the therapeutic dose daily did not cause the individual to drop dead right away!

<comment><USER31> No drug user starts out by saying, "I'm going to get addicted to this." It creeps up on you. 100mg works for a week, then you need 125mg to maintain the effects, then 175mg, and so on. There was a post on reddit about a heroin addicts experience with the drug. It was eery to hear how it becomes part of your life so easily.

I think Ketamine has great potential, but the risk of abuse far outweighs the benefits.

<comment><USER32> Heroin is very addictive, Ketamine is not.

<comment><USER33> Tolerance builds quickly and a strong mental addiction develops quickly. Having to take a shit ton constantly means you're pissing brown within a few months and cessation means withdrawals (nothing even close to heroin, but still there).

Source: my friend with a ketamine addiction.

<comment><USER34> Self control goes a long way. Particularly for something that's not physically addictive.

<comment><USER33> That it does, but you cannot dismiss the addictive qualities of ketamine with such a statement, because it is an addictive drug. What part of tolerance build up and withdrawals makes you think it isn't physically addictive? Both are physical documented phenomena.</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment>


Obfuscating "Hello World" in Python - <AUTHOR> http://benkurtovic.com/2014/06/01/obfuscating-hello-world.html

<comment><USER2> When I first saw the final code, I thought it unfathomable that I could resolve it down to "Hello World!" at any point in my lifetime. The following 20min provided an education into logic, programming, and Python that rivals 200 page reference books with clear explanations and the ideal amount of build up for each step. Thanks Ben for the post!

</comment><comment><USER3> I thought this was a great post, some amazing code, and humbling since this is WAY beyond my current - and future - ability.

Even more impressive - it looks like the author is a freshman in college! [https://www.linkedin.com/in/benkurtovic](https://www.linkedin.com/in/benkurtovic)

Nice work, Ben!

<comment><USER4> Damn. If I was a freshman in his CS class I would hate his guts.

<comment><USER5> Can you explain why? I don't really understand this sentiment at all.

<comment><USER6> It's a human emotion called jealousy.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> This is perhaps the clearest example on the value of implementation-oriented code comments. When you need them, they are superheroic. But... don't need them, please.

</comment><comment><USER8> I barely know any Python and upon first glance I could easily get an idea of how it worked (without looking at the explanation): by computing the required strings out of funny-named variables with shifts and arithmetic. co_nlocals is obviously the only actual integer constant from which all the other values are coming from.

Only then did I read the explanation, and realised I wasn't far-off (the only thing I got wrong was the string computation, which I thought would be a string concatenation.) I think it says something about the language when even _obfuscated_ code in it is rather readable! (Then again, I do RE where most of the code I'm reading is disassembled machine instructions, so maybe my perspective on what constitutes obfuscation is a bit skewed...)

</comment><comment><USER9> "There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it."

<comment><USER10> I don't think this counts as "obvious".

BTW my intuition say turing completness require that there are many ways to do it, for at least some values of "it", but I can't proove it.

<comment><USER11> Since turing completness implies that you can write an interpreter for any other programming language you can do it in python in at least as many ways as there are programming languages where you can do it.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER12> I saw this yesterday and shared it with a friend who had introduced me to code golf. Simply fantastic, particularly the comments.

</comment><comment><USER13> I didn't realize there needed to be an IOPCC but now I do.

</comment><comment><USER14> This is like brainf*ck to me.

<comment><USER15> Brainfuck relies on pointer arithmetic, while this is using bit shifting.

Brainfuck commands: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck#Commands](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck#Commands)

Bit shifting: [http://stackoverflow.com/a/141873/58740](http://stackoverflow.com/a/141873/58740)

</comment></comment><comment><USER16> the level of obfuscation is impressive. i wonder if similar obfuscation for javascript exists? The one from google doesn't seem to quite work right and end up breaking my script. The paid version from jscrambler seems to work but seems like a large waste of money to obfuscate one file.

</comment><comment><USER17> This code is so ugly that I thought it was Lisp :p</comment>


Electronics-Recycling Innovator Going to Prison for Extending Computers' Lives - <AUTHOR> https://returntonow.net/2018/05/10/ewaste-innovator-prison/ <comment><USER2> We determined previously the guy is full of shit, knowingly manufacturing counterfeits in China and scheming to avoid interception by customs, plainly stating as much in email which was later used as evidence.

example of such an email:

[https://1gew6o3qn6vx9kp3s42ge0y1-wpengine.netdna- ssl.com/wp-...](https://1gew6o3qn6vx9kp3s42ge0y1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp- content/uploads/prod/sites/5/2018/04/Email3.pdf) (linked from below article)

[https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2018/04/27/the- fac...](https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2018/04/27/the-facts-about- a-recent-counterfeiting-case-brought-by-the-u-s-government/)

> "No normal company or buyer will notice such issues." "Make me proud so that > our business can grow and we can keep winning."

> "There are tricks for bypassing customs with container's & LTL but currently > this is how I get these products without invoices past customs."

> "If they call you just play stupid and tell them you ordered from an asset > management broker overseas."

<comment><USER3> It seems that this "manufacturing counterfeits" is literally just copying Windows CDs:

> Lundgren made 28,000 of the discs and shipped them to a broker, who planned > to sell them to computer refurbishing shops for about 25 cents each, so they > could provide them to used-computer buyers.

> Microsoft's lawyers valued the discs at $25 each and said they represent > $700,000 in potential sales.

Firstly I think it's a harsh sentence (because copying isn't theft[0]), but secondly can anyone tell me _why_ on earth he didn't just burn some Debian discs? (Perhaps with LXDE if it's really old computers.)

[0]: [https://youtu.be/IeTybKL1pM4](https://youtu.be/IeTybKL1pM4)

<comment><USER4> He didn't just copy the software content of the disc. He reproduced the printing and labelling of the originals, and kept refining his product to look more similar to the original so they'd get through customs.

He wasn't always selling them for 25cents. There are documents from him where he's selling them for $20.

<comment><USER3> > He reproduced the printing and labelling of the originals, and kept refining > his product to look more similar to the original so they'd get through > customs.

Ok, I think that may justify using the word "counterfeit" then.

> There are documents from him where he's selling them for $20.

The thing is, it would have been perfectly legal for him to sell Debian CDs for $20. That would still have made the old computers usable again. It's good to make use of old computers, but I think the implied argument of _having_ to copy Windows recovery CDs to _save_ old computers is nonsense.

The story just puzzles me. Maybe he didn't realise that you can sell free software[1]?

[1]: [https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html)

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> I flagged this because the article isn't even trying to report in a neutral fashion and the site seems to be full of clickbait articles such as "Study: Non-Stick Pans Make Your Penis Smaller".

<comment><USER6> Yeah, this is an interesting story, but the article/ source is of poor quality, and appears to be heavilly biased based on info people are bringing up in comments.

In fact, the article appears to just be the LA times article (linked in the story) chopped up. Some verbatim, some paraphrased.

[https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn- microso...](https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-microsoft- copyright-20180426-story.html)

</comment></comment><comment><USER7> I don't know, I personally find the "I'm selling the CDs because people don't know it's available for free online" a bit unconvincing. He did it in hopes of profiting [0] by misleading people into thinking they pay for an original. What he sold is freely available online, one search away. Definitely a lot more accessible than buying his discs. This article is heavily biased and fails to present any of the evidence that puts the guy in a bad light.

Also [1]: > However, in essence, what Lundgren eventually pleaded guilty to was making these Dell refurbishers' customers believe that they were obtaining a genuine Dell-branded "Reinstallation Disc" with Dell's blessing, when in actuality, they weren't.

P.S. I love how the downvotes pour in with no actual dissenting opinion :). Nowhere even in the guy's own emails can anyone find anything but mentions of profit, a ripe market, and basically doing his best to deceive customers by making the product look like a genuine Dell one (arranging for fake Microsoft and Dell labels to be applied to the discs). _Nobody_ goes to such lengths to deceive their customers out of honesty and good intentions.

What he did is like recycling paper into freshly printed counterfeit banknotes. Real Robin Hood.

> "You would have to be an expert with a magnifying glass to know and/or see > such differences." [2]

> "If the software will be 98% accurate I believe I can get away with that." > [2]

[0] [https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/27/17293650/microsoft- recycl...](https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/27/17293650/microsoft-recycler- jail-sentence-windows-software-counterfeiting-response)

[1] [https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/04/why-the-man- who-...](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/04/why-the-man-who-tried-to- sell-windows-recovery-discs-will-go-to-prison/)

[2] [https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2018/04/27/the- fac...](https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2018/04/27/the-facts-about- a-recent-counterfeiting-case-brought-by-the-u-s-government/)

<comment><USER8> The only way in which they weren't "genuine" is that the plastic they were made from was not blessed by Dell, that's it. The data on them was perfectly genuine, and the data on them could be obtained for free anyway.

You might as well argue that downloading the disk image through a third-party ISP is a counterfeit because the ISP is sending you bits labeled as coming from Microsoft on their own medium, and they are even profiting from it!

<comment><USER7> So... the only way a fake dollar bill isn't genuine is that the paper it's made from is not blessed by the US government? When you put it like that yes... still very much fake and a crime ;). Like any other counterfeiting. The least he could have done was tell the customers they are "replicas" or whatever. But he'd make less money.

Also the guy himself expected the software on that "plastic" to be _98% accurate_. Of course, none of the customers ever got to know that. Do you think the end users paid just 25c for them also? ;)

Since you have no problem with getting fakes without knowing in advance, how would you feel if the next time your parents give you allowance money they were "98% accurate" fakes?

<comment><USER8> > So... the only way a fake dollar bill isn't genuine is that the paper it's > made from is not blessed by the US government?

No, a dollar bill that was not blessed by the FED does not fulfill the one and only function of a currency of being an accounting tool for people's economic contributions to society. A copy of a windows disc is functionally identical to a "genuine" windows disc.

> The least he could have done was tell the customers they are "replicas" or > whatever.

Well, sure he could. But why should he, legal reasons aside? Should ISPs label all websites as "replicas" because you receive a copy made by the ISP?

> But he'd make less money.

So? Is it ethically wrong to do something that earns you more money?

> Also the guy himself expected the software on that "plastic" to be 98% > accurate.

Source? In particular, what kind of inaccuracies are we talking about?

> Since you have no problem with getting fakes without knowing in advance, how > would you feel if the next time your parents give you allowance money they > were "98% accurate" fakes?

I have a problem with getting fakes without knowing in advance. I just don't subscribe to the idea that an identical copy of digital data is a fake.

<comment><USER7> > [basically the whole comment]

B.S.

> a dollar bill

Actually that is not the purpose of money (maybe one of them). But we just agreed that if it's identical (or you know, at least 98% accurate) I can put someone else's "seal of approval" and be totally legit. You can't have it both ways.

The seller should be honest about what he's selling. You asking "why?" says a lot. The issue that was described pretty clearly for most people around here isn't the theft of software but the fact that the guy put MS and Dell labels on the physical object (the CD) without any legal right. Oh, if we "just" put the legal reasons aside sure, this is totally legit. Just like every other crime out there ;).

> Source? In particular, what kind of inaccuracies are we talking about?

Source? Try the links in my comment. It was in the guy's email, presented as evidence in court. Reading before replying helps make your comment a little more relevant. The first things that come to mind is that he used a very outdated image and subpar CD blanks to cut costs.

> I just don't subscribe to the idea that an identical copy of digital data is > a fake.

There are people who don't subscribe to the idea that a woman should be allowed to change her mind during intercourse. There was already an agreement in place. Does this make them right? Back to out topic, the physical CD with fake labels is a fake, as was made very clear in the many official quotes I put in the comment. What if I put a Nike label on my fake a*s home-made shoes and sell them to you for $200? I'm innocent right? The shoes are my own creation and apparently I'm free to use someone else's name as I see fit. Legit. Law aside...

The "I reject your reality and substitute my own" argument doesn't make for a good defense argument in court or a good comment.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> This sentencing is wrong. Microsoft was not even selling those disks and the computers on which the software was intended to be installed were already licensed to use the software. Just because of some "estimated" or "virtual" losses, this guy is being sent to prison. How screwed up is our justice system?

<comment><USER10> Read the Microsoft link repeated here for convenience:

[https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2018/04/27/the- fac...](https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2018/04/27/the-facts-about- a-recent-counterfeiting-case-brought-by-the-u-s-government/)

Microsoft didn't bring up the case, and it's obvious from the guys own emails he was producing counterfeit discs to pass off as genuine for his own profit. If he were blatantly doing it, and not trying to deceive buyers, I would not feel as strongly as I do that he is trying to spin it differently now that he has been caught. If it weren't for profit, he could have spent his efforts publicizing the availability of genuine discs on his blog and elsewhere to get people to keep their old Windows machines. XP didn't officially end until April 2014, and he was doing this in 2012.

In the end, I think 15 years sentence is very harsh considering rapists get an average of 9.8 years, and only serve about 5.4 years.

<comment><USER11> I think it was only 15 months : "15-month prison term and a $50,000 fine"

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER12> I don't get most of the comments here, the content on the discs is supposed to be freely available from Microsoft. So what is this talk about windows copies?</comment>


Abstract class definition generation via category equations - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/kummahiih/python-domain-equations <comment><AUTHOR> Related stuff has been here earlier ( [https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2018/03/26/seven- sketch...](https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2018/03/26/seven-sketches-in- compositionality/) and [https://bartoszmilewski.com/2014/10/28/category- theory-for-p...](https://bartoszmilewski.com/2014/10/28/category-theory-for- programmers-the-preface/) ). I wanted also invest some of my time with the subject and tried to make a library which is easy to understand and take into use. Any ideas how to make this on some other imperative language? ( C# + roslyn comes into my mind at least)</comment>


Why Recruiters Suck, and What You Can Do About It - <AUTHOR> http://java.dzone.com/articles/why-tech-recruiters-suck-and

<comment><USER2> Completely out of topic, sorry:

> 'throw enough spaghetti against the wall, some of it will stick'

Well, buy Italian spaghetti, _respect_ the cooking time printed on the box and none of them will stick :-)</comment>


Teaching Programming - <AUTHOR> http://zaidox.com/teaching-programming.html

<comment><USER2> I've done a lot of teaching programming. Mainly to beginners while at Stanford and now to beginners aged 5 to 85 using <http://codehs.com>

</comment><comment><USER3> _Learning to program is really difficult. Teaching to program is even harder._

The only programming class I ever took was taught by an unmotivated teacher who only taught programming because he needed the money. That was in high school. I started out excited about the amazing power programming gave me to bend the computer to my will and make it do cool things, but the teacher's lack of enthusiasm covered the class like a dismal fog, and his intensely boring lectures and make-work assignments totally dampened my enthusiasm. I finally dropped the class.

I didn't go back to programming until years later when I was taking grad school in an entirely different subject and I rediscovered programming on my own. I taught myself C and ended up spending all night coding and debugging and loving it, to the point where I neglected the actual subject I was supposed to be learning.

While I've never taught programming to others, I spent several years teaching technical classes to engineers in the semiconductor industry. I also taught English as a second language for five years. From these experiences, I've learned the following:

Learning to program is really fun. Because programming is really fun.

Teaching any subject is fun if you enjoy the subject matter, have a passion for teaching, and if you teach people who want to learn and have aptitude in the field.

So if teaching programming is hard (instead challenging, but fun) it could mean you either don't enjoy programming, you don't have passion or aptitude for teaching, or you need to find motivated students with an aptitude for programming.

If the problem is that you don't enjoy programming, you need to find a different subject to teach.

If you don't have passion or aptitude for teaching, you need to get out of teaching as soon as possible, because you are likely ruining your students' first experiences with the subject matter.

And if your students appear unmotivated or lack aptitude, you should consider deeply the possibility that this could be because you have one of the two issues above, and repeat until the problem is resolved, or until you are really, really, really sure the problem isn't you.

If you are absolutely sure the problem isn't you, then you need to consider finding a teaching situation where students _are_ motivated, and you need to discover methods to gently encourage those who genuinely lack programming aptitude to focus their learning in areas where they do have aptitude.

But before doing that, maybe it would be good to take one more round of considering if maybe the problem isn't you.</comment>


Don't Use Raspberry Pi for Everything - <AUTHOR> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/stop-using-raspberry-pi-everything/ <comment><USER2> The author's points are valid. However, there's no recognition of the tremendous marketing, documentation, training, community & ecosystem surrounding the platform.

These things are real, they are as real as any code that's written. They are as real as any hardware.

So yes, the Raspberry Pi is a great, fantastic introduction into this IOT world. The security problems are real, that should be the first thing attended to.

And then yes, once you get the basics down it should be easy to move to a better platform/device/doohicky.

<comment><USER3> Now take this comment and insert WordPress instead of Raspberry Pi :) Ubiquity and ease-of-use will win over security.

<comment><USER4> My job is trying to get ambivalent people to take security seriously, and I'd like to amend your statement. Ubiquity and ease-of-use will win over security _as long as security professionals insist on cumbersome practices_.

Nonsensical password complexity rules.

The absolutely asinine technology we have to encrypt emails.

Third-party antivirus software.

Patches forcing a reboot (hell, patches _needing_ a reboot).

Encryption being an add-on or an option.

Bundling spyware and adware with brand new machines in order to reduce their sticker price.

Let's Encrypt changed the world by making SSL certs as easy as they could ever be. That's a very positive step. Likewise, no one has to wonder if their iPhone is infected with malware. They just use it, without any security training at all. Developers use PaaS because patching is hard and you never know if it's going to break a production system. Now it's someone else's problem.

What wins security is making it harder to _not_ be secure. Wordpress is still a long way from that ideal.

<comment><USER5> > What wins security is making it harder to not be secure.

I find this is usually at odds with your original statement. Current security practices are almost entirely a security/utility trade off, we make things secure by locking systems down so the user can do less or has to jump through hoops to do it. The iPhone is the perfect example of this, it's only secure because it's limited in what can be installed or run by the user.

<comment><USER4> You're right, I worded that wrong. I should have said "What wins security is making it easier to be secure (rather than making it harder to do insecure things). The iPhone went the second route. iOS is undeniably easy to use right out of the box, and it's also really super secure. But if you want to circumvent all of their security, it's actually pretty difficult. You have to trade a lot of things for the ability to jailbreak your phone.

Windows went the other route. If you want to install unsigned drivers, you have to reboot into a special mode, and next time you reboot you lose that privilege again. If you want to install programs, you have to click yes on the UAC pop-up. In the past, none of those roadblocks existed. Rather than making it easier to have good security, they made it harder to do things insecurely.

Microsoft purposefully put in things to make it harder to be insecure, where Apple (with the benefit of starting from scratch and not having to deal with legacy cruft) was able to make being secure easier. Most people don't have to jump through hoops to do things securely on the iPhone because it was built from the ground up to make sure everything you need to do can be done within the sandbox/walled garden.

Things like SSH keys that require you to upload a certificate to every server, that's secure but all you're doing is making it harder to do things. People are more likely to fall back to passwords, so your only option is to not let them use passwords, which is just making it harder to be insecure. RSA tokens are a middle ground, not really harder than a password but far more secure. But a fingerprint scanner built right into a button you were going to press anyway? _That_ is making security easier. It's good (enough) security and end users don't even notice it, let alone have any opinion on it. It just works. It's that easy.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> "Don't Spend $40 to Flash an LED Over the Web"

The new Pi Zero W's are $9 and the include wifi. I used to use arduinios or MSPs for things because i didnt want to "waste" a full pi. But I mean, $4 savings with these NodeMCUs? vs. the platform I already know how to use that's a normal computer that happens to have trivially easy to use IO pins? For one- off type projects i just don't see how it's worth it for me. I'd rather spend the four bucks and skip ahead to the interesting part of the project.

Imho the better thing to consider w/ pi is that even the Pi Zero W consumes a decent amount of power. So for some projects, that really matters.

<comment><USER7> You might compare the $9 figure with $1 for digispark clones, or $2-3 for nano clones.

That said, I basically agree.

</comment></comment><comment><USER8> "To start with, it runs Linux, which has a steep learning curve associated with it and isn't suited to beginners."

I couldn't take the article seriously after this. "Beginners" click icons and run applications. This works under Linux like any other OS. Anything more complex than that isn't going to be done by a "beginner" no matter what OS you're using.

</comment><comment><USER9> This article referenced the ESP8266 (specifically NodeMCU configuration) as a cheap alternative for WiFi IOT projects that don't warrant the Pi's complexity. I've played with this chip and was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to get it working. The bare chips can be had for a couple of dollars, or $15 for a development board which supports USB flashing.

Don't cheap out on the dev board, the cheapest ones use a shitty USB-serial chip and it was a headache to get the drivers working. The adafruit one worked out of the box.

<comment><USER10> I really love the Wemos D1 mini. It fits in a standard breadboard with space for a row of pins on each side. It's only $4 plus shipping from Wemos:

[https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/D1-mini-Mini- NodeMc...](https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/D1-mini-Mini- NodeMcu-4M-bytes-Lua-WIFI-Internet-of-Things-development-board-based- ESP8266/1331105_32529101036.html)

For anyone thinking about trying ESP8266 programming, it's a great way to start. For my one-of projects, I just put a whole D1 mini in and don't worry about trying to optimize it to less components (why bother at $4/board?). Just order at least a handful as shipping is slow.

</comment></comment><comment><USER11> The hardware limitations and the "danger of server maintenance" points are valid. Only that

>That ever-so-slight delay between hitting a key and having it appear on screen will eventually wear you down.

You don't need to run a full blown desktop. TTY is snappy enough on my model 2B.

It's a great "learn to hack stuff on a cheap small computer" platform for my nephew (if I had a nephew [1]), and that's how it is advertised.

[1] On the other hand, I wonder how many RasPi users buy the thing because they wish they would have had it when they were of the age to be someone's nephew.

<comment><USER12> I use my Raspberry Pi as an always-on Emacs computer; all on a framebuffer. It's very refreshing to be able to turn on a monitor and be able to write a journal entry or manage a to-do list and then commit and push to a remote git repository. There's nothing to distract you besides M-x tetris.

I once considered buying an AlphaSmart Dana for this purpose, but you can't beat Emacs's keybindings (or vi's, if that's your thing).

</comment></comment><comment><USER13> > It's Dangerously Insecure (In the Wrong Hands)

Just like any other programmable internet connected device.

> A Mini-PC or Tablet Would Probably Be Better

How does this solve the security problem mentioned above? IMHO it actually makes it worse, because you are now connecting an even more powerful machine.

> Never open your Pi as a public facing server.

What if the purpose of my Pi is to be a public facing server?

> This is true of every website regardless of where it's hosted, but it's > particularly problematic for the Raspberry Pi, which tends to be set up by > hobbyists who aren't intimately familiar with best security practices.

It is easier to install a web server and misconfigure security on a typical desktop machine than it is on a Raspberry. It feels that the author has a condescending view on raspberry hobbyists that is not backed up by any facts.

</comment><comment><USER14> "Dongles, Dongles Everywhere"

Straw men, straw men everywhere!

</comment><comment><USER15> This article does not really need to exist.

</comment><comment><AUTHOR> One point that caught my eye is:

"Linux enthusiasts perpetually claim that this year is the year that Linux will finally make headway into the desktop for the everyday user — but it never has and never will."

I guess the author has a (much coveted) crystal ball.

<comment><USER16> Oh stop it. Is anyone seriously expecting Linux to take over the desktop anymore? Ubuntu is embedded in Windows now for cripes sakes! Be happy with the world's servers and cell phones.

<comment><USER17> The closest thing to a "Year of the Linux Desktop" is the growing popularity of ChromeOS. Nowhere near rivaling Windows, sure, but not entirely obscure either, and certainly not with a "steep learning curve" (come on MakeUseOf; it ain't 2005 anymore, you can cool it with the tired "Linux is hard to use" crap).

<comment><USER4> The Linux systems that get brought up in these arguments have a lot of non- default helper programs that obfuscate the underlying OS and remove really any reason to be using Linux in the first place other than it's free and it runs on everything.

I mean, yeah Android is nice. And it technically runs Linux. But so does my wifi router... just because I plugged it in and logged into the web interface doesn't mean I can, with a straight face, claim that I am a Linux user.

Does having a laptop that boots straight into a browser without showing anything lower level than that really count as Linux? Does it really make me a Linux user?

<comment><USER18> Yes it does. What kind of question is that? With the same logic you can claim that no Windows user that doesn't know how to use "obscure" Windows tools is a Windows user. What you are talking about is a "Power User" or admin. Fuck when every Desktop would run ChromeOS would you still claim it wasn't the year of the Linux desktop? Ubuntu tries to hide every "linuxy" aspect and make it user friendly. So people using Ubuntu and not using any of the command line tools aren't Linux users?

Making the choice running a system makes you a user of that system. If the choice is conscious or not is unimportant. Most people only click on "the internet" or office and it doesn't make them less Windows users. Or do you need to be aware of what you are to be it?

<comment><USER4> The difference is, Windows is Windows. It's a full OS from tip to tail. Linux is a kernel, one that doesn't do a whole lot by itself. If you installed Linux, you'd be very disappointed. But even installing Ubuntu is different IMO than using Android or ChromeOS or a car infotainment system that may technically be based on Linux but the end user would never be able to tell.

Likewise if I've used an ATM or a mall kiosk that was based on Windows, I'd hardly call myself a Windows user. I'm not talking about an admin or a power user. I'm talking about someone being aware at a basic level what kind of system they're using. My grandma knows she's using Windows.

<comment><USER18> The problem we both have is when we define someone as a Linux or Windows "user". In my opinion what counts for the year of the Linux Desktop isn't if anybody _sees_ themself as Linux user, but rather if someone actually uses Linux.

I think if we are evaluating what the market share of an os it doesn't matter how it hides it presence. ATMs still are vulnerable to Windows exploits and Linux PCs for Linux vulns and it doesn't need someone to identify with something to be it. It's just the difference between calling oneself a * user and being counted/seen as one.

> Does having a laptop that boots straight into a browser without showing > anything lower level than that really count as Linux? Does it really make me > a Linux user?

You maybe don't see yourself as one, but you are one. I don't think my Grandma knew she was using Windows and it doesn't matter if she knew.

<comment><USER4> In that case Linux won years ago. Nearly everyone has seen a billboard or mall kiosk or in-flight entertainment system running on Linux, nearly everyone has connected to a web page running on a Linux server, many people run Android- powered TVs. Hell, my dog can push the ice dispenser on my Samsung smart fridge, she's a Linux user too.

Debate's over. If you don't have to know you're using Linux, if you don't have to see yourself as a Linux user, if all you have to do is be exposed to a system that incidentally runs Linux in some odd capacity for it to be considered Linux on the desktop, that's it. Linux won.

Bad news for everyone who is anti-Microsoft but visits Stack Overflow which runs on Windows Server... wonder if those people are aware that they're now considered Windows users?

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER19> Using an RPi for _everything_ is indeed not a good idea! It's a poor choice for e.g a HPC server of a 10G router.

Not using RPi for _anything_ is not a good idea either, it seems.

The RPi (and C.H.I.P., Arduino, etc) have a rather well-defined sweet spot: small-scale hobby projects and study. At this niche, they are a good value for the money (because tools, books, community, etc).

</comment><comment><USER20> #1 is an interesting point. Use a $5 nodemcu instead of a $9 pi. Not only do you save $4, but you get a free introduction to the world of horrible ssl implementations!

</comment><comment><USER21> I found the tangent into running linux on the RasPi a little odd... I agree for IoT you probably don't need a RasPi but I love mine for RasPlex.</comment>


Show HN: Recipe nutrition calculator focusing on micronutrients - <AUTHOR> https://www.soupersage.com/recipe-nutrition-calculator <comment><USER2> This is neat: I would make it work by letting the user half or quarter the recipes. Most recipes online are for families and will give skewed results when parsing them.

<comment><AUTHOR> Yea, adjusting the serving size would be nice. Thanks for the feedback!

</comment></comment><comment><USER3> This and the other tools on the site are fantastic! I think it would be useful to fuse a couple of the tools you have into one. For example, in the nutritional deficiency tool, I am told that I am lacking niacin. I have to leave the context of that tool to look up which foods contain niacin. However, you already made another tool that does just this. How about displaying a list of the top foods containing the deficiencies, with a link to the full results?

<comment><AUTHOR> Thank you! The tools are definitely disjoint, stitching some of them together is a great idea and definitely better usability.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> Wow, this is incredibly impressive!

Is there somewhere to report bugs and feedback? It's scraped [https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/seitan-black-bean- stir-f...](https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/seitan-black-bean-stir-fry) quite well but a few items like "seitanpieces" and "cornflour" did not get recognised. Also, increasing the weight of the seitan is not updating the nutritional values.

<comment><AUTHOR> I love bugs! I log on the backend all the ingredients or portions I can't parse with a high degree of certainty. Every night, there's a cron job that uses some beefier NLP algorithms to see if we can do better, and recategorizes the new terms as a recognized entity after it passes some threshold. It should be able to learn over time.

I was debating over whether or not to fold in that logic on first encounter, but it's slow and I worry it might affect usability.

Thank you for letting me know about these and your feedback!

</comment></comment><comment><AUTHOR> I had been vegetarian for a number of years, realized quite late that I had been deficient in Vitamin B12. Also from the Journal of Nutrition ([https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21865568/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21865568/)), many folks don't get hit their micronutrient goals without fortification and supplements. Most nutrition calculators focuses on macronutrients or losing weight. I wanted to create a tool that focuses on micronutrients and eating healthy.

</comment><comment><USER5> The problem I have is I lived abroad and eat all kinds of foreign foods which are hard to track. Lot's of stuff I eat I only know the local name and don't even know how to translate into English.

Makes food tracking very difficult when I eat out and don't eat at home. I use myfitnesspal simply because they have the biggest database.

IMO any completion to MFP has to some how build up a massive database which is accurate. Tough nut to crack.

<comment><AUTHOR> That makes sense. The site currently uses USDA's open nutritional database, but it could be supplemented. They do a good job of covering for 95% of American foods, but definitely lacks globally. The nice perks about the USDA dataset is that it is more detailed than MFP - many phytonutrients (carotenoids) and omegas are also tracked. Hopefully I can add those in the next version.

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> It would be amazing to show how much of say Vitamin A comes from each ingredient, in that progressbar, on hover.

<comment><AUTHOR> Makes total sense. Thanks for the feedback!</comment></comment>


"The Far Side" Returns to a Weird World - <AUTHOR> https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-far-side-returns-to-a-weird-world <comment><USER3> I'm a middle-aged (or depending on your perspective, SUPER OLD) guy. I had the good fortune to work with some bright young millennials at my last job, and we sometimes talked about pop culture. I really had a hard time conveying how subversive and groundbreaking Gary Larson and David Letterman were in their time.

Their sensibilities are ubiquitous now and so if you grew up in the 2000's it would be easy to look at them and say, what's the big deal? But at the time their absurdist humor felt rebellious, new, and important.

<comment><USER4> A permanent high school memory is returning from my job at McDonald's around midnight. Was tired but turned on David Letterman. Voices were all dubbed over in Spanish, with English subtitles. No one onscreen acted unusual. I was dying to go to bed but stayed up till the end to hear the punch line or payoff. Then the show finished without a single reference to it. I was awestruck. I've never heard anyone remark about this — I wonder if I imagined this or it just didn't shock/impress people like it did me.

<comment><USER5> Wait, some guy on youtube made the same comment seven years ago. Is this some absurd long-con of yours?

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDBZpBgBsWI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDBZpBgBsWI)

 _oh man. I remember coming home from my job at McDonald 's (!) and this episode was playing. I was dead tired but stayed up to see how they'd finally stop the subtitling thing. They never did -- the kept it up throughout the show and never made a single mention of it. That made it 10x more hilarious. Wonder when this aired? must have been 1989 or 1990ish_

<comment><USER6> What impresses me is that you have an encyclopedic memory of comments found on relatively forgettable YouTube videos! Not being facetious here, but I have to say I'm gobsmacked.

<comment><USER7> I figured mynameishere just searched youtube to find what episode audiometry was talking about and happened to see the comment.

Although your idea is cooler :)

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER8> I found the madness unleashed by the "Cow tools" panel hilarious. No one got the joke and it generated so much confusion the strip made the news. Larson talks about it The Prehistory of The Far Side.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cow_Tools?wprov=sfla1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cow_Tools?wprov=sfla1)

<comment><USER9> I never saw that one, and the controversy is hilarious.

"Larson took the unusual step of issuing a press release, explaining the joke and apologizing for the confusion caused:

 _The cartoon was intended to be an exercise in silliness. While I have never met a cow who could make tools, I felt sure that if I did, they (the tools) would lack something in sophistication and resemble the sorry specimens shown in this cartoon. I regret that my fondness for cows, combined with an overactive imagination, may have carried me beyond what is comprehensible to the average Far Side reader._

Larson further explained that he was inspired by the idea that tool use was the characteristic that separated mankind from the rest of the animal kingdom."

<comment><USER10> ...but is his explanation genuine, or a further part of the joke? We can never know, as any further explanation could also be part of the joke...

<comment><USER9> It also said:

"Reflecting on the cartoon's reception, Larson suggested he had erred in making one of the tools resemble a saw, which misled many readers into believing that to understand the cartoon's message, they needed to decipher the identities of the other three tools."

and that mirrored exactly my train of thought looking at the cartoon.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER11> I'm extremely glad he's back. I'm sure some part of why my brain is the way it is in 2020 is due to reading old collections of Far Side cartoons as a kid. Some of them I didn't understand properly until years later, but others (like the all-time classic where the cows are in the field standing on their hind legs, until one cow yells "Car!", and they all stand on all fours until the car is past, or "when potato salad goes bad", or the "Llamas at home" one) are the kind of thing that goes straight into your little-kid psyche and stays there.

<comment><USER12> Even though he's active again now, which is great, I suspect the one about curiosity and the dead cats* will remain forever my favorite.

This one on the other hand, might be oddly prescient in hindsight: [https://www.pinterest.com/pin/423056958717553865/](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/423056958717553865/)

* "Notice all the computations, theoretical scribblings, and lab equipment, Norm. ... Yes, curiosity killed these cats."

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> As good as Larson is, and he's superb, his style is strongly reminiscent of B. Kliban, who predated him[1]. Kliban was funnier, often X-rated, and infinitely more transgressive. While Kliban was famous for his innocuous cat cartoons the adult material is IMHO as gut-bustingly funny as it is obscene.

[https://www.gocomics.com/kliban/2012/03/19](https://www.gocomics.com/kliban/2012/03/19)

<comment><USER13> Can you show some examples of Kliban being funnier? Genuine interest.

<comment><USER6> I only know them from books of his that are now out of print, such as Never Eat Anything Bigger Than Your Own Head.

<comment><USER14> I had no idea who was being talked about until I saw the reference to "Never Eat Anything Bigger Than Your Own Head".

As a kid in the 70s/80s, my Dad had a bunch of those books. I still remember some of them too - like the man sitting across a restaurant table from a human sized blowfly saying to the waiter "... and some shit for my fly".

I suppose you had to be there. I still much preferred The Far Side though.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER15> I really hope he keeps making more, given the response to these first few comics.

I grew up reading the Far Side in the newspaper every day. I remember the excitement of running out to get the paper to grab the comics before anyone else.

Today I follow some comics on Instagram, which gives that same sort of excitement. I load up Instagram and among the pictures of my friends are some comics that I enjoy -- including one account that I'm sure is not legal but posts a Calvin and Hobbes comic every day.

I'm not sure if I should feel bad following the account knowing it is probably being done without permission, but at the same time, it brings me daily joy, which is what Bill Watterson always said he wanted to do.

<comment><USER16> If you are not the copyright owner none of that should bother you. Without insider knowledge it could be from the artists sent from their own home.

<comment><USER17> This is like telling someone at a pawn shop not to worry about whether what their buying was stolen.

Maybe it won't affect any given transaction.

But concern over the source of the products we consume is responsible and worth thinking about.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER18> The New Yorker's convention regarding the use of the diaeresis is the Charles II of Spain of editorial guidelines.

<comment><USER19> As an undergrad, thanks to TeX making the dieresis readily accessible, I was fond of its use. I remember someone commenting that my writing "coördinates" with a dieresis made him want to pronounce it as if he were Inspector Clouseau.

<comment><USER20> iPhone keyboard makes it very easy too — just press and hold the appropriate vowel

<comment><USER19> In the 80s, unless you had a special keyboard, typing diacriticalized characters was difficult at best.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER21> Related from a few weeks ago: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23765968](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23765968)

</comment><comment><USER22> Related to the article's form more than its topic, but "has humbly reëmerged, wanting to reëngage": I'm used to seeing "trémas" in French used for the very purpose of avoiding the usual sound made by two neighboring letters, but I didn't know it was a thing in English.

<comment><USER23> It's a bit archaic, and unusual in places besides the New Yorker.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic)#English](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_\(diacritic\)#English)

<comment><USER24> OT but as a German-speaking reader of the New Yorker this abuse of the Umlaut has been making me irrationally angry for decades. But it's a nice reminder that if you want to, I dunno, capitalize only the word "Dog" and end every sentence in a comma, you might want to own a magazine, Dog,

<comment><USER25> The diaeresis is unrelated to the umlaut though, it's a notation borrowed from old Greek. It never quite caught on in English, but it's part of the standard orthography of many other languages.

<comment><USER26> Like French, where it's fairly typical.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER27> To me, this is a classic example of a change in medium renewing a creative individual's creative drive. Similar examples from literature are legion. From Picassos move from painting to collage (giving us Cubism), to the Beatles employing the Sitar in Norwegian Wood.

</comment><comment><USER28> In sixth grade, my entire class was obsessed with Far Side. Our teacher actually let us tape our favorite comics in two columns onto our school desks. I still remember the one about William Tell helped me answer a test question once.

</comment><comment><USER29> I'm a big Far Side fan, but I'm not liking the aesthetic of the new tablet medium. The shading in particular looks significantly inferior to the old water color works.

</comment><comment><USER30> > the single-panel comic that débuted in 1980 and helped make the Reagan era > more bearable

Gotta get a good shot in at those dastardly Republicans I guess.

<comment><USER31> It's the Lord's Prayer

</comment></comment><comment><USER32> I would love it if the far si(t/d)e had an RSS feed, that would make consumption so much easier.

</comment><comment><USER9> I loved the far side and was sad to see it sort of evaporate.

Also gone were Bloom County with the banana jr 6000 self-portable computer (looking like a macintosh with legs) and Monty Python.

That said, we got futurama, xkcd and ... others?

Anyone want to share some good sources humor (that aren't too dumbed-down?)

<comment><USER33> Nathan Pyle / Strange Planet is great. I would say there's some The Far Side spirit in there. Not sure what to link to since Instagram doesn't allow scrolling anymore but his Twitter seems to have plenty of stuff: [https://twitter.com/nathanwpyle](https://twitter.com/nathanwpyle)

<comment><USER34> [https://www.instagram.com/nathanwpylestrangeplanet/](https://www.instagram.com/nathanwpylestrangeplanet/)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER35> Cow Tools

</comment><comment><USER36> No mention of Calvin and Hobbes, which came out a few years later and made a comparable splash?

<comment><USER37> It's there (along with another favorite from that era I was wondering whether would rate a mention):

> _On the comics page, "Calvin and Hobbes" and "Bloom County" shared Larson's > wild playfulness;_

<comment><USER36> Odd. For me ctrl-f Calvin returns nothing.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER38> The Far Side, was internet humour before the internet.

It abstracted higher than comics around it.

But internet humour like all the internet has iterated and abstracted many times since.

I think nostalgia will keep it going, but it's had it's day.

<comment><USER39> Space Moose[1] and the Parking Lot Is Full[2] were two early internet comic strips that smashed through that. They still hold up well to this day, at least if you like transgressive subversive humor.

[1] [https://web.archive.org/web/20020205062518/http://spacemoose...](https://web.archive.org/web/20020205062518/http://spacemoose.com/archive.htm)

[2] [http://j.aufbix.org/plif/archive/archive.htm](http://j.aufbix.org/plif/archive/archive.htm)

</comment></comment><comment><USER40> Not sure why this article came out today, the new comics were released on the 7th. [https://www.thefarside.com/new-stuff](https://www.thefarside.com/new- stuff)

<comment><USER41> News need not be instantaneous.

<comment><USER42> That's sadly the expectation these days. It's not like a journalist finds something interesting and spends a week or two writing a piece about it. The "news" should be up immediately so everyone can find out about it as soon as possible with some easily digestable tldr style, as it happens by the minute zero content reporting that the social media brain lives for.

<comment><USER43> Meanwhile, simple food recipes are accompanied by narcissistic ramblings and videos that take a good 10 minutes to get past just to get to the point.

<comment><USER44> There are tons of sites on the Internet that are just recipes if that's what you're looking for. Likewise don't go to The New Yorker and expect things laid out as a bulleted list.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER45> "Its creator, Gary Larson (no relation!), retired in 1995, after having been syndicated in more than nineteen hundred newspapers and selling more than forty million books."

The Newyorker clearly cares a bit about grammar: "its" for ownership - <USER2> apostrophe. Then it goes a bit mad: an awkward comma between creator and Gary. There are multiple firing solutions here. You could go in with something like:

"Gary Larson (no relation!) retired in 1995. He was ... etc ...

I'm not asking for a return to the strictures of "Usage and Abusage" but I'd like to think that professional journalists are able to stick words on the page without them looking uncomfortable.

Prose should flow. When you write it, why not read it back to yourself.

[Cow holding a bow, wearing a 10 gallon hat and saying something unlikely to Rowland. Rowland is a chicken]

<comment><USER46> The New Yorker is known for its superb standards in regards to grammar, though it does tend to favor passive voice like academic circles are wont to do. This is evident here, with a focus first on Larson's work, then an introduction to his person, and given that the article's main focus is on the work and not the person, this is a logical decision.

You have just used what would have been a useful opportunity to discuss Gary Larson's unique art style to insist how much more you, a Hacker News commenter, knows about prose than someone employed by the New Yorker.

Further, due to your comment's lack of clarification, I ironically cannot tell if you are insinuating that the author of the article used "its" correctly or incorrectly. For the record, because this possessive pronoun is referring to Gary Larson's work in the previous sentence, the usage is correct. [1]

1 - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_possessive#Pronouns](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_possessive#Pronouns)

<comment><USER47> Unfortunately they have a terrible standard of spelling at the _New Yorker_. Every time I read one of those words with the umlaut, it causes a full parse error in my brain, to the extent that I usually have to read the entire paragraph again.

Seriously, if you're not happy with "cooperate", spell it as "co-operate". This is an old standard, and it still works well. I don't get how the _New Yorker_ tries to pretend they're the magazine of high society while spelling like Spın̈al Tap. The point of language is to have common understanding, and you can't do that if you're the only one using your weird spelling.

(Also, I wish they just got the the point in their articles. At least give a summary of why I would want to read the whole long form article before launching into some anecdote about two people meeting at a bar.)

<comment><USER48> As the New Yorker will grumpily tell you, it's not an umlaut: [https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-curse- of-...](https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-curse-of-the- diaeresis)

> She said that once, in the elevator, [the editor] told her he was on the > verge of changing that style and would be sending out a memo soon. And then > he died.

So, be careful whose weird house style you criticise, is the message.

<comment><USER47> If I write ä in HTML for an umlaut, I get U+00E4 LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS in Unicode. It's like CJK unification all over again!</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment>


WiFi-hacking neighbor from hell gets 18 years in prison - <AUTHOR> http://arstechnica.com/#!/tech-policy/news/2011/07/wifi-hacking-neighbor-from-hell-gets-18-years-in-prison.ars <comment><USER2> The neighbor from hell "spent _two weeks_ cracking the Kostolnik's WEP encryption"? I thought this was supposed to take only seconds now...

</comment><comment><USER3> duplicate? : <http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2757234>

<comment><USER4> First time I saw it. Thanks for linking to the previous comments though.</comment></comment>


Ask HN: App to receive streamed music from computer. - <AUTHOR>

I want to choose songs on my laptop and have them play on my iPhone or Android phone. My audio cable doesn't stretch from where I sit to my speakers. Does such an app exist? <comment><USER2> Airfoil from Rogue Amoeba does that for Mac and Windows, and can play on your iPhone (or Airport Express or Apple TV), or Mac or Windows machine.

</comment><comment><USER3> i'm working on that :) shoot me an email narf@(my username).org if you want a copy to play with</comment>


End to End React Testing with RSpec - <AUTHOR> http://blog.lunchtimelabs.io/testing/end-to-end-testing-react-apps <comment><USER2> End-to-end tests tend to take a lot of time when project grows. Some tricks like recording API calls with Puffing Billy can help save some time but still majority time is spend in browser.

This problem triggered me to work on knapsack ruby gem to solve problem how to split tests across parallel CI servers and run my whole test suite faster. E2E tests can vary in time execution so I decided to split them in a dynamic way between CI nodes to auto balance tests speed between nodes.

Recently someone let me know about fix for puffing-billy gem to work with my knapsack_pro Queue Mode. [https://github.com/KnapsackPro/knapsack_pro- ruby#how-to-conf...](https://github.com/KnapsackPro/knapsack_pro-ruby#how-to- configure-puffing-billy-gem-with-knapsack-pro-queue-mode)</comment>


Exploring Startup Geography - Atlanta and Silicon Valley - <AUTHOR> http://techdrawl.com/an-introduction-from-35k-feet/

<comment><AUTHOR> This is the first in a multi-part series. I'm staying the week in Palo Alto, talking to entrepreneurs, investors, etc. and trying to capture the 'Valley Advantage'

<comment><USER2> Speaking as a former ATL resident and ramblin wreck, I think you have to stay in the valley at least a couple of months to really get the feel. I'm not really sure how much you can get in a week. In my opinion, it's way too short. I would say the same thing of Austin and Seattle too.

<comment><AUTHOR> I respectfully disagree. Its like I entered the Magic Kingdom - this place is disneyland for computer dorks. It hits you immediately.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER3> I often wonder if those of ya'll (sorry, couldn't resist) in the Bay Area understand that this anxiety exists. It does, and it drives many of us to drop our drawl and head westward.

I worked for a very well-funded startup in DC a few years back that failed miserably. When the end was nigh, I overheard C-levels say things like "you know, I can't help but think that location played a role in this." Did we have money? Yes. Did we have talent? Yes. Could our location change the fact that our management made stupid decisions? No. But, when you're looking for excuses the location factor is always there. And, as tech entrepreneur on the east coast it's always in your mind as you debate your next big thing.

I'd be very interested to know if those of you who are in the Bay Area with successful startups feel like your same company (funding, employees, etc) would be as successful in a different location.

<comment><AUTHOR> So far... from the interviews I have conducted, the answer is usually "No."

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> Does anyone know of Tech Square does anything with Emory, or is the start up culture confined to Georgia Tech?

<comment><AUTHOR> Any startup/university activity that I'm aware of is all associated with Georgia Tech. Tech Square is the community's core. But I'm not too familiar with biotech startups.

</comment></comment><comment><USER5> Interesting - A professor I had last semester is mentioned on that page.

</comment><comment><USER6> Can't wait to read the next one

</comment><comment><AUTHOR> pg, were you cycling in Palo Alto today? We thought we saw you cycle past.</comment>


Crashmapper: Visualizing Years of Traffic Collisions in NYC - <AUTHOR> http://blog.accursedware.com/introducing-nyc-crashmapper/

<comment><USER2> Obligatory XKCD: [http://xkcd.com/1138/](http://xkcd.com/1138/)

In Seattle a few intersections have been singled out as the most dangerous for cyclists because of the number of collisions involving cyclists there. Considering they are also the highest-traffic intersections for bicycles, it doesn't actually say anything about how dangerous they are per cyclist-trip.

Crashmapper is useless without knowing how many vehicles pass each intersection per day.

<comment><USER3> However, if you want to use it to know where to focus efforts to save the most lives it is useful. It's the correct representation for some uses, just not for all uses.

<comment><USER4> Although even in that case it's important to know both pieces of information. Past some level of safety, intersections likely hit a floor where no amount of further investment will actually make them safer.

<comment><USER5> > Past some level of safety, intersections likely hit a floor where no amount > of further investment will actually make them safer.

That point is probably called "driverless cars."

<comment><USER6> And "driverless cycles" probably also.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> I learned that pretty much every corner has crash potential. :)

We ran into a similar problem at my last job. I mapped crash locations in our game to the map in which they took place. When viewed in aggregate it ended up turning into more of a map of where people tend to congregate in the game then where problem spots actually exist.

<comment><USER8> We did something similar and actually ended up finding a confusing hotspot. Turned out to be a ledge where people could clip through a fence and fall to their deaths.

<comment><USER7> That's not to imply it wasn't helpful. Just that once we knocked out all of the low-hanging fruit the map turned into an indication of where people played. Remaining crashes weren't related to location or content.

The first pass actually had a nice grid pattern on the map that was where ambient audio emitters happened to overlap. Something about the transition between two ambients emitters was falling over.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> This is a good example where some color would really help.

There are points with the same color where their collision count is different by a factor of 10.

</comment><comment><USER10> Comment on style: The transparency of the orange heat spots should not fall below 30% or so, even at the center. Having the heat spots opaque makes the map difficult to read.

</comment><comment><USER11> Huh. I worked at a place that had access to data similar to this, but statewide and in a different state. I wanted to put something like this together, but i was told the data was very sensitive and that I couldn't get access to it, since knowing that some intersections are really dangerous opens up government agencies to lawsuits for not fixing them.

So its interesting to see this here.

</comment><comment><USER12> I like how on error he redirects to the application to serve custom urls giving a dual meaning to crash mapping.

</comment><comment><USER13> I've done something similar for Oslo, Norway; [http://trafikk.quai.io/](http://trafikk.quai.io/) (warning: Norwegian text)

</comment><comment><USER14> Great start!

It would be wonderful if you could enter a time span, rather than seeing one month at a time.

Maybe filter by daylight/nighttime hours?

</comment><comment><USER15> It's worth pointing out this historical context mentioned in the OP's Github:

> _Council Member Jessica Lappin got into an animated discussion with Petito > over traffic crash data. When Lappin asked why NYPD is releasing data in PDF > form — and only after the council adopted legislation forcing the department > to do so — Petito replied that the department is "concerned with the > integrity of the data itself." Petito said NYPD believes data released on a > spreadsheet could be manipulated by people who want "to make a point of some > sort." An incredulous Lappin assured Petito that the public only wants to > analyze the data to improve safety, not use it for "evil."_

This is a persistent problem in public records law: officials who are asked to provide public data in computer parsable formats but instead, deliver it as PDFs or worse, as paper printouts.

The reason given by the NYPD is so common a trope that it's hard to say that they're just technically slow. When you consider that the NYPD has taken strong criticism for not investigating fatal accidents seriously, it's reasonable to suspect the NYPD of actively obfuscating when they use the "oh but they'll alter the spreadsheets!"

<comment><USER16> Digitally-signed spreadsheets are a thing. If concern about altered versions was the real issue, there are mitigations that don't remove the utility of having a consumable data format. Its not merely "reasonable to suspect" that refusal to give usable formats is motivated by desire to make it more difficult to use the data rather than concern about alterations, it is almost unreasonable to believe anything else.

</comment></comment><comment><USER17> for a second i thought this was mapping ethernet packet collisions and i thought it was cool but couldn't figure out why we would need a heatmap</comment>


Julian Assange Indictment - <AUTHOR> https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/press-release/file/1153481/download <comment><AUTHOR> >Assange agreed to assist Manning in cracking a password stored on United States Department of Defense computers

This is all there is to it. Assange offered to crack a NTLM hash given by Manning, and apparently failed.

It certainly didn't take the government 8 years to investigate this, this is obviously a politically motivated prosecution.

Donate to the wikileaks defense fund [https://defend.wikileaks.org/donate/](https://defend.wikileaks.org/donate/)</comment>


What non-web software do you use the most? - <AUTHOR> http://breckyunits.com/code/what_nonweb_software_do_you_use_the_most

<comment><USER2> it seems like there must exist some sort of 'benign spyware' you can install on your computer, which monitors what programs you have running (and when each one is the active window). it could automatically generate reports of your top 10 most frequently-used programs, most used in the recent day, week, month, etc. this is sort of like the "top visited websites" feature in Google Chrome and other browsers, except extended to all programs on your desktop. think of it as a layer on top of 'ps' or 'top'.

<comment><AUTHOR> like rescuetime?</comment></comment>


Employee benefits at Basecamp - <AUTHOR> https://m.signalvnoise.com/employee-benefits-at-basecamp-d2d46fd06c58 <comment><USER2> This is a really nice balance of family and workplace benefits.

</comment><comment><USER3> Seems shockingly good even by tech startup standards.

<comment><USER4> Well they're decidedly not a startup so that's partly why.

<comment><USER3> FWIW, I didn't mean to imply that they were, just that startups are the usual barometer for good benefits. My wording wasn't clear -- sorry about that.

<comment><USER4> No problem -- thanks for the clarification! :)</comment></comment></comment></comment>


Obssesive tabbers: Save history from Firefox tabs to file - <AUTHOR> http://git.svenne.dk/?p=public/misc-sysadmin.git;a=blob;f=save_firefox_urls.py;h=e030ae3904a95850e4e30895a32ba3717264315c;hb=HEAD

<comment><AUTHOR> If you browse like me, you suddenly have hundreds of tabs open "for later"...

This tool allows you to dump them to a file, and start over at "tab-count: 1" ...</comment>