Best Way to get a scam site taken down? - <AUTHOR>

This morning I was redirected to a scam site while trying to access facebook.  The site is registered through Moniker and the site that it eventually points to is registered on dynamicdolphin.  The scam tells you that you've been randomly selected for your area to take a short 2 question survey.  Once you complete them it asks you to select a price which takes you to a different domain which is one of those 'Complete x offers to win your prize' sites.
It uses the domain name of faceb00k.c0m-survey.c0m  all 0's are actually the letter 'o' (don't want to give these guys anything).  I contacted Moniker and left them a message to call me back. The site that the scam site points to is r.pr0duct-rewards.c0m
Is there a tried and true way you guys have used to take these sites down?  Its an obvious scam and you'd think there would be an easy place to go to report and dismantle these things by now. <comment><USER2> The trouble with the law is that it generally requires proof and a victim.</comment>


Show HN: Infinite Beatmatched Music in the Browser (+iOS, +Android) - <AUTHOR> http://forever.fm

<comment> jack-r-abbit I don't get any sound in Chrome 30.0.1599.101 or Firefox 21 on Windows 8.</comment>


Hacker Takes Responsibility for Wikileaks Takedown - <AUTHOR> http://mashable.com/2010/11/29/hacker-wikileaks/ 11/29/10 by Stan Schroeder <comment><USER2> _obstructing the lines of communication for terrorists, sympathizers, fixers, facilitators, oppressive regimes and other general bad guys_

And there, in plain sight, is the entire problem with his(?) approach. The terrorists say that the US is an oppressive regime and that they're the ones obstructing the bad guys. The Chinese government employs hackers to break into computers. Hacktivist vandalism blurs the distinctions and makes it harder for people to sympathize with your aims, not easier.

This especially true of Wikileaks. I will keep my own counsel of what I think about Assange's activities, but I will point out the obvious: That extrajudicial attempts to quash Wikileaks give the _appearance_ of attacks on freedom of information and freedom of speech. This appearance is at odds with the freedoms that the US used to champion.

Vigilante efforts like this do more harm than good even if you sympathize with Jester's appraisal of who is a good guy and who is a bad guy.

</comment><comment><USER3> " _While it is entirely possible for one experienced and resourceful hacker to take down a site — even a fairly large one — by a DDoS attack on his own, it's not easy to prove whether the Jester is really behind the attack and, if he is, whether he was working on his own or if he had help._ "

Pretty much any moron with a credit card can buy access to a botnet and take anything down, it's not a big accomplishment. Also, there are some hints of a nice personality disorder here in his/her mission statement:

" _obstructing the lines of communication for terrorists, sympathizers, fixers, facilitators, oppressive regimes and other general bad guys._ "

...and again with the self-aggrandizing me-too agenda:

" _The Jester hints of having obtained some sensitive information about Wikileaks itself, but said he decided not to upload it on Wikileaks as he doesn't believe the information would see the light of day. He then provides an encrypted file of his own, claiming the information is contained within — again, as "insurance."_ "

That might impress media types, but somehow I just _know_ this is merely a lonely guy sitting in his basement who hasn't been taking his medication for a while and somehow believes himself a righteous paladin fighting the forces of evil at the front lines in an international game of mystery and intrigue.

<comment><USER4> "That might impress media types, but somehow I just know this is merely a lonely guy"

You sure have a lot of certainties. You seem like an individual with deluded self-aggrandizing views about his psychological insight aptitude. Seek professional mental help fast.

<comment><USER5> You're certainly confident at your own pop psychological analyses. Perhaps _you_ should seek professional mental help. See? We can all play this game.

<comment><USER4> The difference is that I'm a psychiatrist and you judging from your comment most likely aren't.

This means I actually know what I'm talking about.

<comment><USER6> > I'm a psychiatrist

And that too with incredible skill in analysing mental issues from a single forum post</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment>


3-Mile-Long Nazi Resort Being Resurrected as a Luxury Getaway - at-fates-hands http://www.archdaily.com/796208/this-3-mile-long-nazi-resort-is-being-resurrected-as-a-luxury-getaway <comment><AUTHOR> James May did a series for the BBC, "Cars of the People" a few years ago that went into the history of some of the Nazi KDF programs based around savings plans to allow the Germans to save for what would eventually be the Volkswagen Beetle, a radio... and also trips to Prora.

One of the more interesting tidbits of automotive history, along with oft- forgotten plans (in this day an age) of the third Reich.

[http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x24ifq1_james-may-s-cars- of...](http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x24ifq1_james-may-s-cars-of-the- people-episode-1_auto?start=490)

<comment><USER2> This is the socialist part of "national socialist German workers party." But heaven forfend we mention they had socialist aspects to their ideology.

<comment><USER3> I was recently talking politics with a coworker and his jaw dropped when I mentioned that the nazis were extreme left. You could see his world shattering at the realization that socialism and racism are not mutually exclusive.

<comment><USER4> Frankly, "extreme left" seems far off. But I also find personally that whatever "left" and "right" mean nowadays cannot be extrapolated past 20 years or so. Prior to the 20th century, otherwise "right-wing" governments were perfectly comfortable with pursing interventionist policies, because "right- wing" back then meant pretty much "whatever will keep the monarch in power", and entailed a respect for tradition. Bismarck, for example, didn't see any problem in creating the first social welfare system in the world so long as it politically undermined the socialists and it made the monarchy popular [0]. The overwhelmingly mercantilist policies of the Ancien Régime, seeking to impose price regulations in order to improve it's trade balance or to keep the monarch popular (one of the possible causes of the French Revolution was the havoc created by the deregulation of the grain market by the classical liberal Turgot [1]), is another example. It's only during the 20th century that the left-right distinction seems to have mapped itself onto overwhelmingly economic rather than cultural issues.

[0] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Socialism_(Germany)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Socialism_\(Germany\))

[1] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flour_War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flour_War)

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> I'm pretty sure this is old news in that the locals recently defeated the plan in a referendum.

It's also not the first attempt... One of my earliest memories is a trip there a few years after the wall fell when my father was involved in a similar venture – that also went nowhere.

<comment><USER6> How does three miles of developed prime beach in crowded Europe manage to go unused for 70 years?!

<comment><USER5> "Prime" is relative – the Baltic sea is rather cold and the only reason I sometimes go there is because it's just about two hours and 30 Euros away. When I have more than a weekend, a flight to the Mediterranean is preferred. Plus this is on a island and that'd be another hour or so (ferry or detour).

Berlin is probably the only city for which it's a somewhat attractive destination, but I don't see the rich people here going for it. Flying to italy take only a bit longer, or, if it needs to be close, there are quite a few opulent estates from the 16th to early-20th century within an hour of the city center, quite often with direct access to one of the many lakes.</comment></comment></comment>


More CSS - <AUTHOR> http://morecss.org/

<comment><USER2> We've been using the beta version in a medium-scale e-commerce system and could not be happier! Since the declarations are so simple to write, we've managed to reduce our front-end design costs by over 75% by hiring people who are not capable of abstract reasoning.

As you are all probably aware, abstract reasoning only develops after age four. Children under four also happen to be a major liability for families in developing nations. We have effectively killed two birds with one stone by putting unproductive toddlers to work. They pay for their own diapers, we get cheap frontend developers - everybody wins!

</comment><comment><USER3> Yeah it's an April fools. The copyright date at the bottom specifically mentions April 1st.

The domain was also just registered on the 21st.

Created On:21-Mar-2012 23:51:11 UTC

And the code doesn't actually exist. Look at their "fake" 500 error page:

<http://morecss.org/more.js>

`We have been receiving a large volume of requests since April 1st 2012.`

</comment><comment><USER4> British spelling in css. At last!

<comment><AUTHOR> that's probably part of the joke

<comment><USER5> As is the thousand pixel footer

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> I thought this was real..until !unimportant

<comment><USER7> It was the words-not-numbers that did it for me.

<comment><USER8> I liked the helpful compiler error.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> Gotta be a joke.

</comment><comment><AUTHOR> on first thought I thought I was the stupid one and this was actually cool. On second thought, I realized it was April 1st.

But on 3rd thought...

</comment><comment><USER10> of course it's a joke. Why write more code than we have to :) It's the oppisite of less.js

</comment><comment><USER11> Page lags when scrolling. Win7 Chrome V17

</comment><comment><USER12> Wait, what? </slashdot></comment>


World 2.0 - Collaborative Consumption, Hybrid Organizations, Local Investing - <AUTHOR> http://blog.dutiee.com/four-movements-that-define-world-2-0/

<comment><AUTHOR> The Atlantic has a similar article.

[http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/11/how- stev...](http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/11/how-steve-case- and-his-company-are-driving-the-sharing-economy/247997/)</comment>


CRIU 2.0 release - <AUTHOR> https://lists.openvz.org/pipermail/criu/2016-March/026045.html <comment><USER2> For those who don't know what this is:

[http://criu.org](http://criu.org)

> Using this tool, you can freeze a running application (or part of it) and > checkpoint it to a hard drive as a collection of files. You can then use the > files to restore and run the application from the point it was frozen at. > The distinctive feature of the CRIU project is that it is mainly implemented > in user space.

</comment><comment><USER3> Changes:

[https://criu.org/Download/criu/2.0](https://criu.org/Download/criu/2.0)</comment>


Mixergy Interview with Khan Academy's Salman Khan - <AUTHOR> http://mixergy.com/salman-khan-academy-interview/

<comment><USER2> It is interesting to note that Khan Academy even has playlists interesting for startups: <http://www.youtube.com/user/khanacademy#p/c/CADCB4565CFACEBF>

It covers the more financial part of it (equity, dilution, and things like that).

<comment><USER3> He has an MBA from Harvard and has worked in investment. I'm more surprised he has courses on Biology and History.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> Sal is proof that you don't need a degree in the a subject to be able to teach it.</comment>


Most engineers are white--and so are the faces they use to train software - <AUTHOR> http://www.recode.net/2017/1/18/14304964/data-facial-recognition-trouble-recognizing-black-white-faces-diversity <comment><USER2> Except for the South Asians.</comment>


Ask HN: No US Degree, will get work permit in 4 months - <AUTHOR> I don't have any schooling in the USA - moved here after my marriage. I will get my work permit in the next 4 months. What's the best way I can spend my time productively to land a good job ($100k+ and intellectually stimulating) <comment><USER2> What skills do you have? What experience do you have? What do you find intellectually stimulating?

<comment><AUTHOR> analytical and critical thinking, good grasp on spoken and written communication in english, some coding. experience with running business operations and product line creation. love to know how things work, especially businesses.

<comment><USER3> What was your (official) education credential level before moving to US?

> _some coding_

Which languages? Do you have a github profile? A blog with some small projects?

> _experience with running business operations and product line creation_

This is not very specific. Any interesting anecdote to share?

<comment><AUTHOR> officially a computer engineer and mba. C, Java but no work exp as a coder. ran regional operations (p&l responsibility) for a fashion apparel company with 17 direct reports, 100+ indirect. launched products (suits and blazers) including pricing and gross margin decisions across 7 distribution channels. this is where I developed my communication (and influence) skills, analytical skills and business acumen.

<comment><USER3> I think it's better to start your cv/presentation/whatever with

* I got a computer engineer and mba an the university of X in the country Y

instead of

* I got no official degree in USA

For some professions, a degree is almost universal [Mathematician here. The value of a math degree depends a lot on the university, the advisor, and how many papers you have published. But you are effectively a mathematician everywhere.]

For other professions like lawyers and medical doctors, moving to another country means you must go back to primary school and draw your vertical and horizontal sticks again.

But I'm feeling that you prefer a management position instead of a software developer position.

<comment><AUTHOR> thanks. yes, i do prefer a management position. any suggestions on what should i do in the next two months?

<comment><USER2> Probably apply for management jobs.

There's not really any specific skill you're likely to pick up in ~2 months that will make you more or less hire-able for "tech management jobs related to designing products".

Might as well start applying now, which will give you more time to get into the groove of interviewing at the companies you pick.

<comment><AUTHOR> thanks!

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER4> Java and SQL.</comment>


Hello World in amd64 Assembly - <AUTHOR> http://blog.parantapa.net/2008/12/my-first-post-on-my-blog.html

<comment><USER2> Not sure why it was posted, but intro amd64 assembler code is frustratingly rare.

I've just started learning assembly, but my main platform is FreeBSD/amd64 so _none_ of the basic tutorials run on my machine. 99.5% of such code is for i386, and 99% of the unix code is for Linux. I set up a FreeBSD/i386 jail for running the few basic intros for the platform, and I've been using a CentOS/i386 VM for the tutorials in that platform.

This link brings my personal count of unix amd64 assembler "Hello, world!" pages to three. While I don't think the submission is really noteworthy, I am glad I caught it here.

</comment><comment><USER3> So are we getting hello world in all the flavours of assembly now? That or someone submit (or most likely _re_submit) <http://www.roesler- ac.de/wolfram/hello.htm> and get it over and done with.</comment>


Creoqode 2048 – The DIY Open-Source Game Console - <AUTHOR> http://www.creoqode.com/ <comment><USER2> I want that screen! What is it?

<comment><USER3> [https://www.seeedstudio.com/item_detail.html?p_id=2070](https://www.seeedstudio.com/item_detail.html?p_id=2070)</comment></comment>


Network monitor with REST endpoint project - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/benhsmith/netwhere <comment><AUTHOR> I made a little packet capture/monitor process in modernish C++ that serves the results over a REST endpoint. It comes with a demo site that shows the data it's collecting. It's been tested on Ubuntu and OpenWRT.</comment>


Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast - <AUTHOR> http://www.bbc.com/news/health-39516345 <comment><USER2> While I think LSD is a very interesting drug that can give people valuable insights and improve their (and thereby also others) lives, I would not do microdosing on a daily basis myself.

LSD increases serotonin significantly, and it's plausible that some of the well-being effect of microdosing is caused by this. The problem is that the brain tends to down-regulate its own production of a neurotransmitter when it is induced by a drug over time. Since the brain is plastic it will probably up-regulate the serotonin production once the microdosing is stopped, but there is a theoretical risk that neurotransmitter production and/or functioning is permanently changed.

<comment><USER3> This makes me think of a long time ago, when I was diagnosed with ADD as an adult. I started medicating with dexadrine, which really did work wonderfully. Changed my life. A couple of years later, I had the worst mental breakdown of my life. I was a wreck. Borderline suicidal. I'm amazed that I didn't lose my spouse or my job over it, and I did lose a number of friends.

Quit taking dexadrine, and it cleared up. Serotonin imbalance is no laughing matter. I technically still have a prescription, but I haven't taken it in years. I've learned to just live with the issues the ADD causes.

On the subject of LSD... personally, I think LSD is a wonderful invention with enormous therapeutic potential. Back when I was just a bum kid in a college town, I probably tripped at least 50 times. I learned a lot about myself and the world, and don't regret a moment of it. With that in context, I find the research into microdosing really fascinating. I can easily imagine the benefits.

But that serotonin thing. I'd want to know more about that.

<comment><USER4> What did you learn about yourself and the world?

<comment><USER5> Not the one you asked, but psychedelics inject a ton of entropy into the system, allowing you to break out of the "bound states" humans tend to get stuck in.

Taking shrooms pretty much rewired my value structure from the ground up. I went from caring about traditional things like a good career (therefore social approval and everything else), to valuing spending time in the sun with good friends more than our usual ego-centric living patrerns.

LSD is great for the visual/aesthetic experience - it's so stimulating and kinesthetic - but it leaves your mind a little more intact.

DMT is a really interesting and profound psychedelic, and one that is massively misunderstood and, IMO, unfairly judged. Doing large amounts of DMT improved my ability to visualize hyperdimensional systems, and gave me (in my subjective opinion) a better understanding of the nature and structure of existence

<comment><USER6> How do you know your understanding of the nature and structure of existence, is actually the nature and structure of existence?

<comment><USER5> You don't.

The trip logic works like this. Your brain-organism evolved in the context of our 4-dimensional universe. Psychedelics tend to alter patterns of perception in a way that releases a flood of images. Your brain itself is a hyperdimensional problem solver so when flipped on its head with DMT you can experience really fascinating hyperdimensional universe-images.

As to revealing anything of the real structure of existence...nothing can be said. They reveal the structure of our brains, which themselves are a micromodel of our universe (compare the branching pattern of the brain's neurons to a zoomed out picture of the universe to the branching pattern of a tree to the lichtenberg patterns of lightning to the branching pattern of mycelia...they all tend to converge to the same fractal).

DMT can never give you "real" knowledge of the universe...but neither can any kind of experiment. All of our observations are really just images formed via some form of interaction. All you can really do is get hunches, and hope that as a prt of the universe, its greater structure is reflected in the microcosm that is you.

If I was forced to guess, I would say we exist in a 4d pocket universe within a fractally infinite hyperdimensional bulk multiverse. Universes are constantly being born and dying, with the net effect that the fundamental nature of reality is timeless (time is a psychological abstraction). But that brings us no closer to true understanding, which is probably an illusion anyway.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> While I consider microdosing an interesting concept, nobody should miss out on a well planned experience with a normal dose, in your favorite spot in nature, with carefully selected music, in perfect weather conditions. Also, read James Fadiman's classic [0] beforehand and "test before you ingest".

[0] [http://www.psychedelicexplorersguide.com](http://www.psychedelicexplorersguide.com)

<comment><USER8> Please don't dictate what 'nobody' should 'miss out' on.

I'm all for the fredom of anyone to ingest whatever strange concoctions take their fancy. Reciprocally, don't lean on those of us who are happy enough about the way our brains work without artificial flavouring.

<comment><USER9> Just because your radio came tuned to one station doesn't mean you gotta keep it that way.

<comment><USER8> Which part in "I'm all for the fredom of anyone to ingest whatever strange concoctions take their fancy" do you not understand?

<comment><USER9> I'm curious as to what brought you to a thread about LSD if sobriety is such an integral part of your identity. Just as you took offense to someone recommending a psychedelic experience, I take offense at your notion that any state of mind besides the standard-issue one is "artificial flavouring." Anyways, I'll carry on with my weirdo ways.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER10> Here is someone making it a little more rigorous: [https://www.gwern.net/LSD%20microdosing](https://www.gwern.net/LSD%20microdosing)

N=1 though.

<comment><USER11> not sure if science, lunacy, or both

going with "both"

<comment><USER12> its science without the morality threaded through it. Psychedelics were demonized because of racism and fear, nothing else. They have been used for millennia for therapeutic benefits - look at every native culture with shamen and you will find them.

<comment><USER13> I actually have to agree with the parent comment here. I think the message at both ends of the spectrum is bogus.

I've taken my fair share of psychedelics and while I've had good times on them, I've also had some of the most miserable moments in my life on them. The only instances I can think of in my life where I can say without a doubt that I would never want to repeat.

They're certainly not for everybody and there's nothing therapeutic about giving them to people in a fragile mental/emotional state.

Here be Dragons.

<comment><USER14> Some people find value in a bad trip. It is usually showing you something your conscience afraid to deal with, you might be better off after confronting reasons why you had those "most miserable moments", they might not be as bad in retrospective

<comment><USER6> All bad trips are good trips in hindsight, since you came out them alive and... sane. And hopefully learned something very deep about yourself.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER15> This is the first time I've heard of microdosing: [http://tim.blog/2015/03/21/james-fadiman/](http://tim.blog/2015/03/21/james- fadiman/)

Recent book: [https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MCQ783Q/](https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MCQ783Q/) \- "A Really Good Day: How Microdosing Made a Mega Difference in My Mood, My Marriage, and My Life"

Here is a very "hacker like" research: [https://www.gwern.net/LSD%20microdosing](https://www.gwern.net/LSD%20microdosing)

I'm so happy that LSD Microdosing is hitting maintream, it's no longer niche hippy stuff.

\----

EDIT: I read some comments "I think" \- have these people actually tried using it? That's a serious ignorance, but I'm not commenting on their posts to avoid adding points to a dogma...

</comment><comment><USER16> There's a good "Reply All" episode on this [https://gimletmedia.com/episode/44-shine-on-you-crazy- goldma...](https://gimletmedia.com/episode/44-shine-on-you-crazy-goldman/)

</comment><comment><USER17> I wouldn't take LSD microdoses periodically. There is no evidence of either the safety nor the benefits of said usage.

We wouldn't be in such a lacking situation if research wasn't halted due to draconian drug laws. Nowadays it seems that research is being done by organizations like MAPS. My advice is to wait until there is evidence of the utility of said usages.

I know people will try whatever they can in order to improve or solve some problem in their lifes. From tDCS to a variety of nootropics, research chemicals, prescription, and illegal drugs. I'd rather not be a lab rat, but that's easy to say when there are no pressing issues.

There are a lot of evidence-based ways to improve our lifes: Exercise, healthy diet, good sleep routine, CBT, mindfulness.. I'd rather do those.

</comment><comment><USER18> _There is, however, a further danger to microdosing - the risk of taking too much._

You don't say!

I consume the BBC News online fairly compulsively as my go-to news source, but sometimes it really is pretty mind-numbing (no pun intended).

<comment><USER7> > the risk of taking too much.

The risk being, one can actually discover something really important.

<comment><USER19> Risk being some people go on them and commit suicide and some people experience psychosis?

Please don't downplay shit, if it works for you it is great but its not for everyone.

<comment><USER20> I think the incidence rate of that is quite low compared to the amount of 'happy customers'. I suspect there are plenty of people that would suggest that you're fear-mongering at worst, and at best seemingly letting a rather rare incident distort your message.

Consider the opposite to your 'don't downplay shit' perspective: 'overblowing shit' can cause issues too. Best to respectfully educate of the risks, and yet ultimately understand that everyone makes their own choice, complete with consequences.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER21> Given that active doses are at a µg scale, what sort of mass constitutes "microdosing"?

<comment><USER22> Roughly anywhere between 5 and 25 micrograms. There's a very thin line between "i'm feeling good and i can get work done" and "that nail in the wall sure looks interesting, lets investigate its origins" as you approach the upper bound of that.

<comment><USER21> Thanks, I imagine that could be quite a hit-and-miss game to play. I can't see black-market tabs of LSD containing an even distribution of the molecule, at that scale. One day you might feel nothing, then that nail might look _very_ interesting the day after.

<comment><USER7> That's where liquid comes in. Dissolve your tab(s) in (pure!) water (or alcohol), then divide this liquid into as many parts as you need to get to your 10 or 15 micro-grams.

But you'll learn all this when you do your own careful research, which anyone approaching this domain is supposed to do anyways.

<comment><USER23> The article mentions tabs being cut into 10 pieces. I imagine with street acid that means 9 days of placebo and 1 day of oh wow I'm trippin' at work.

<comment><USER24> probably not. acid on blotter paper was originally from acid in solution. the blotter is usually made by pre-measuring an amount of solution that contains the target dose (measured by titration), and then using the blotter to soak up all of the measured out solution. capillary action should lead to even distribution of active compounds throughout the blotter.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER25> "Some people use microdosing ... arguing it helps with their mental health problems."

Well, there you have it. Self-medication for metal health issues. Advocating self-medication for mental health issues is like recommending people to self- medicate with painkillers to stop that pain, instead of getting proper medical diagnosis and treatment.

<comment><USER26> Not saying you are wrong. But i thread my depression with occasional drug use (next to other things like travel) which works perfectly well. Instead of taking all the pills that doctors wanted to give me.

A psychedelic experience every year or so really keeps my happy self functioning.

<comment><USER27> If travelling helps your depression, you probably don't have depression.

<comment><USER26> well before i went on to my first real longer travel experience i got diagnosed with a burnout, after refusing to proceed with any therapy against whatever they thought i had.

I guess it is different for anyone, but for me it really helped a lot

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment> m-j-fox My question is about these Silicon Valley people who spend their days at work and nights in bed: how do they go about sourcing the inventory for their experiments? (Asking for a friend who doesn't want to frequent nightclubs nor attend burning man, but very much wants to try microdosing.)

<comment><USER28> From drug marketplaces on Tor.

Check out /r/DarkNetMarkets if you're interested.

</comment></comment><comment><USER29> I think microdosing LSD is 100% placebo and that we should stick to rationalism and science. Taking small doses of hallucinogens without clear proof and long term research is your choice, however, proving it has value seems incredibly difficult as there are so many biases involved.

<comment><USER30> Fairly similar to the difficulties that surround proving the efficacy of antidepressants.

> I think microdosing LSD is 100% placebo and that we should stick to > rationalism and science.

This is an interesting sentence because the first half and the second half of it directly contradict each other. I too believe in sticking to rationalism and science which surely forces me to disregard your opening statement?

<comment><USER29> Yes it's badly worded, I should say I believe it's nearly impossible to draw conclusions due to the placebo effects, complexity of people's brains and the differences between subjects.

I actually am pretty skeptical about anti-depressants personally and they seem very addictive/dependence inducing. I suppose it's better than people killing themselves but the way they are handed out seems almost abusive.

I have never seen double blind IQ tests with microdosed LSD done.

<comment><USER3> While hardly a "double blind IQ test", or a microdose, Ken Kesey described an interesting lab experience. Back when there was still academic research being done on psychedelics, he was part of an experiment group. One of the experiments being done on him was measuring his sense of time (the "time dilation" often reported by users). They would ask him to estimate one minute passing by, while they timed it. But before they did the time test, they took his pulse, and wrote the results where he could see them. So when they asked him to time one minute, he simply counted his pulse - presumably hitting his estimate more accurately than a "sober" person could.

I think this particular incident says a lot about the difficulty of doing scientific research around perception, for something that so radically alters perception.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER31> Also known as, "homeopathy". Probably just as effective.

<comment><USER7> As far as I know, the concept of homeopathy works on an "information level" (I wouldn't be too surprised if quantum physics are involved), not on the molecular/material level (which microdosing still does).

<comment><USER32> The "information level" being the placebo effect. You feel it working because you think it's working.

<comment><USER7> I don't know, could be. The strange thing however is that there have been cases where animals have shown clear reactions to such a treatment (which wouldn't make sense, given the fact that the "substance" was mixed into their food). Future will tell, I suppose.

<comment><USER33> This is one where I am fairly confident the future will not tell anything new.

On a related note, watch James Randi swallow an entire bottle of Homeopathic sleeping pills in this talk: [https://www.ted.com/talks/james_randi](https://www.ted.com/talks/james_randi)</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment>


Bitcoincard.org - <AUTHOR> http://bitcoincard.org

<comment><USER2> Is this meant to be for real? I thought it was just conceptual. I'm really conflicted, I like the concept (bitcoin and mesh-networks, yay!) of a card like that but I don't believe it's feasible and hate the business plans for it.

</comment><comment><USER2> Starts out awesome and then turns Orwellian evil.</comment>


D-Wave Founder's New Startup Combines AI, Robots, and Monkeys in Exo-Suits - <AUTHOR> http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/artificial-intelligence/dwave-founder-new-startup-kindred-ai <comment><USER3> These d-wave guys are the greatest scam geniuses in history. First they make a "quantum computer" and now they're building trainable exo-suits. I don't even know where they come up with this stuff.

<comment><AUTHOR> I'm going to have to ask you to expand on this comment and provide some context for why you think they're "scam geniuses"?

<comment><USER4> So far D-Wave has failed to provide any direct or indirect evidence that their "quantum computer" actually achieves quantum speed up. An investigation by a scientist from ETH Zurich who was able to use their machine came to the conclusion that their quantum algorithm does not outperform a classical system.

It's hard to think of a reason to refuse to publicly prove that your quantum computer is actually working if it really is, if it isn't it makes a lot of sense of course.

Concerning the purchases of Google and the US government: These are probably more like research grants for D-Wave, as the buyers expect that at some time there might come a working quantum computer from D-Wave, and buying a prototype (even a faulty one) puts them in a good position to be the first to actually get a working version, while helping the company to stay afloat. By the way, Google invested 200 million USD in a different quantum computing technology endeavour led by a UC Santa Barbara professor, which would make little sense if they already had a working quantum computer.

The value of D-Wave as a company is not only defined by their ability to build a working quantum computer though, as there could be significant value in the patent portfolio they built / acquired and in their expertise in building and assembling superconducting chips and systems, which are both highly non- trivial tasks.

Their way of communicating with the public is of course highly misleading, which is why many people in the scientific community have very little respect for them, as this is viewed as highly unethical and harmful behavior in science (but not necessarily in the business world).

<comment><USER5> What's wrong with doing pure research as a Startup? Why does pure research have to only be the domain of Universities? I think it was a great experiment that failed, but that probably goes for something like 95% of great experiments.

Lots of pure research goes nowhere. It's not like Geordie is defrauding the old and disabled. He's working with really really really smart people with lots of money.

Honestly, we need more of this and less of SnapChat startups.

<comment><USER6> _What 's wrong with doing pure research as a Startup?_

Because there is no reliable way to fund it. Said another way, the time horizon for repayment is too long and too risky for traditional, non- corporate, non-public investing.

Lets assume you have a breakthrough with research, now you have to make a product to sell. Which means you need to likely build a new market, or even in the best case of an existing market change the team composition to fund product development.

Those are all risks that Banks and Venture Money (except in very rare cases) aren't willing to take.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> Has D-Wave made any actual feasible technical achievements WRT quantum computing or are they just the Theranos of that domain?

<comment><USER8> It's hard to say. Industry experts like Scott Aaronson have gone back on forth with regards to whether or not it's 1) truly a quantum computer and 2) capable of real improvements over classical computers for anything nontrivial. Point #2 is perhaps more important for practical purposes.

Aaronson is currently back in the skeptical camp after a brief stint of "cautious enthusiasm" in 2012. Umesh Vazirani, Aaronson's PhD advisor and the grandfather of quantum computing, has been largely dismissive of D-Wave and doesn't believe their computers will be capable of much even if they are truly quantum.

The technology is apparently impressive enough that Google, NASA and Lockheed Martin have partnered with D-Wave to test its capabilities, but to date it has not done anything revolutionary. I'm sure they have done _something_ , but it's not clear what trade secrets they have can be separated from marketing, and their public work has been reproduced on classical computers.

There have also been a number of articles in _Nature Physics_ , _Science_ and elsewhere by different authors going back and forth on points 1 and 2 above. The current consensus is that D-Wave is not creating true quantum computers; but they have developed classical, pseudo-quantum computers with legitimate entanglement implemented, and which do not currently offer any real quantum speedup or improvement over classical computers.

That said, I mostly follow quantum cryptography, so I haven't read this research in a while. I am personally happy that D-Wave exists and is trying to push forward the field - I think comparisons to Theranos are uncharitable. But I am skeptical of their real advancements.

 _Edited to clarify after reviewing the research again._

<comment><USER9> > It's hard to say. Industry experts like Scott Aaronson have gone back on > forth with regards to whether or not it's 1) truly a quantum computer and 2) > capable of real improvements over classical computers for anything > nontrivial. Point #2 is perhaps more important for practical purposes.

I down-voted this. I have only a layman's understanding but from what I have read particularly #2 is demonstratively false, D-Wave has not achieved _any_ improvements over classical computers for _anything_ (including it's very own domain problem, which Alex Selby's classical algorithm outperforms D-Wave on). [0][1]

[0] [http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2555#comment-974407](http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2555#comment-974407)

[1] [http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1400](http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1400)

<comment><USER10> No point to refer to "industry experts". Either data shows speedup, or it doesn't. Things will become clear after they release the next version [0]. If there's x1000 speedup, as claimed, it's a real deal, no matter if it's "really quantum" or otherwise.

[0] [http://www.dwavesys.com/media-coverage/techrepublic- quantum-...](http://www.dwavesys.com/media-coverage/techrepublic-quantum-leap- d-waves-next-quantum-computing-chip-offers-1000x-speed)

<comment><USER9> >If there's x1000 speedup, as claimed, it's a real deal, no matter if it's "really quantum" or otherwise.

Except not, because constant time speedup isn't interesting, 1000x classical computers will get you the same effect probably for less $ than d-wave. The entire point is that a genuine quantum computer should achieve an asymptotic speed-up not a constant factor one, which no one really cares about.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER11> > The operator can use foot pedals to control the robot's movement and a > virtual reality headset like the Oculus Rift to experience what the robot is > seeing.

Maybe it's a bit off topic, but I'd like to put here fiction sources (which I know) that explore this kind of setup:

1) A Cognitive Discontinuity story by Andrej Karpathy (2015): [http://karpathy.github.io/2015/11/14/ai/](http://karpathy.github.io/2015/11/14/ai/)

2) Sleep Dealer movie (2008): [https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sleep_dealer/](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sleep_dealer/)

</comment><comment><USER12> Regardless of the actual/implied progress made by D-wave to build a quantum computer. The fact that its CTO of 17 or so years decides to move on to greener pastures / take on a side mission, does not bode well for D-wave

<comment><USER13> That's what I was thinking. Mechanical exoskeletons are not innovative - <USER2> already exist. Quantum computing on the other hand; that's highly innovative.

Why would someone who is supposedly at the forefront of this highly innovative field throw away years of experience and start again from scratch in a comparatively much simpler field.

This doesn't inspire much confidence in D-Wave.

</comment></comment><comment><USER14> One way to gather all the data for training using deep learning, is run millions of robots. But that may happen if tele-operated robots become a big industry in of itself - which economically could work.

So the big issue is: what is the state of the art in tele-operated robots ? And what's missing for it to become a thing ?

<comment><USER15> We are definitely not going to do deep learning for robots that way: we'll run simulations inside virtual worlds.

<comment><USER16> [http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/artificial- intel...](http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/artificial- intelligence/google-large-scale-robotic-grasping-project)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER17> Why did the founder leave d-wave?

<comment><USER18> Is it not possible for someone to have more than one startup?

<comment><USER19> As someone who did it, it's really hard! You really want to be all-in on both, which of course is impossible.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER20> Monkeys in Exo-Suits. So ripe for parody as a Gavin Belson moonshot.

</comment><comment><USER21> I know a few years ago there was some amount of skepticism on whether the Dwave machines were atually quantum computers. Has that skepticism been put to rest? Can anyone comment?

edit: I missed the comment below regarding the designation "universal" quantum computer. I guess that was the crux of the skeptic argument?

</comment><comment><USER22> Isn't this a lot like Disney's robot:

[http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/robotics- hardwar...](http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/robotics- hardware/disney-robot-with-air-water-actuators)

<comment><USER23> That's not a robot, that's a "waldo" – a puppet that is being controlled remotely.

<comment><USER22> what's the difference between an exo-suit and puppet?

<comment><USER23> I was only objecting to calling Disney's "Jimmy" a "robot", because is isn't one; nothing else.</comment></comment></comment></comment>


EgyptAir 804 Disappears Over Mediterranean - <AUTHOR> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/19/world/middleeast/egyptair-plane-disappears-over-mediterranean-airline-says.html <comment><USER2> Starting my 48-hour media blackout around this topic. If I've learned one thing from trying to follow aviation incidents, it's that almost everything popularly reported in the hours after the incident is either wrong or lacking important context.

</comment><comment><USER3> Reddit's live page on this is a surprisingly good source for up to date infos on this.

[https://www.reddit.com/live/wy0st0j6out0](https://www.reddit.com/live/wy0st0j6out0)

</comment><comment><USER4> AvHerald is always a good source for factual information that doesn't include rumors and speculations [http://www.avherald.com/h?article=4987fb09&opt=0](http://www.avherald.com/h?article=4987fb09&opt=0)

<comment><USER5> As always - never read the comments.

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> Why is it that we can track boats with satellites but not planes? In fact we have a complete image[1] of boat activity in the area at the time of disappearance.

It seems as crazy to me as how we can offer in-flight satellite-based wifi but not GPS tracking.

[1] [http://i.imgur.com/XYvC5gI.jpg](http://i.imgur.com/XYvC5gI.jpg)

<comment><USER7> The article says it disappears from radar. When tracking aeroplanes there are two kinds of radar primary and secondary. Primary is actual radar, secondary isn't really radar at all but instead radio transmission of telemetry such as position, altitude, speed etc. This is equivalent to AIS, the system used to track boats that produced your image.

So we were tracking the plane but then the plane stopped transmitting tracking info for some reason (no idea if they even had it on primary radar). Someone could have turned it off or the plane could have crashed.

<comment><USER8> There is no need for a pilot to be able to disable tracking on a commercial plane.

They should position the tracking hardware outside the plane making it relatively tamper-proof mid flight.

<comment><USER9> Unless its on fire? Isn't that always the reason for having all the kill switches on aircraft?

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER10> Someone on reddit pointed out this happened exactly 804 days after Malaysia Airlines 370 vanished. Weird coincidence.

<comment><USER11> Please stop.

Oh wait. Flight number is 804: 8 + 0 + 4 = 12

66 people aboard: 6 + 6 = 12

Must mean something!

<comment><USER12> 12 / 2 = 6

str('66') + str('6') = '666'

it's the devil.</comment></comment></comment>


When good interfaces go crufty (2002) - <AUTHOR> https://web.archive.org/web/20030210081431/http://mpt.phrasewise.com/stories/storyReader$374 <comment><USER2> I didn't realise that was why the Mac has a 'Quit' option on almost all apps. Coming from decades of Windows use, I was flummoxed as to why closing an app window via the header button didn't automatically 'Quit' it like it does on Windows, but rather left the menu bar hanging around. I had no idea it was cruft left over from the single tasking days of the OS.

<comment><USER3> Windows' treatment of Window management is the right approach IMO. A window is the proper abstraction for an activity, not an app. In MacOS the dock mushes all activity on the app on all spaces into one app icon, and then you have to hunt to figure out which window contains the activity that you are working on. I have abandoned using multiple windows for multiple activities on MacOS because it is too much work. I suspect most people use tree style tabs etc as band-aid for MacOS's terrible window management. Joel Spolsky talked about some of this here : [https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/04/11/figuring-out- what-...](https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/04/11/figuring-out-what-they- expected/). They seems to have fixed this issue without fixing the underlying issue, probably because MacOS users are probably now used to the other model. This is why I love Windows with multiple desktops or Xfce over MacOS</comment></comment>


What is Cisco going to do with $4 Billion? Which companies to acquire? - <AUTHOR> http://gigaom.com/2009/02/10/why-does-cisco-need-4-billion-in-debt/#comments

<comment><USER2> Why is Cisco entering the consumer market the wrong move? Linksys is fairly sucessful i thought?</comment>


Amazon Price Watcher android application - <AUTHOR>

This is my first android application. It interfaces with the Amazon Advertising API to keep track of item prices. I originally had the idea because I thought it was a little ridiculous to pay 69.99 for a game when a few months later it would be 29.99 or less. Keeping track of prices manually was out of the question so I figured I'd use my phone to do it. Here's the link to the android market page: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.daveco.pricewatcher&feature=search_result. In the interest of full disclosure I do get points if you shop using the app and let me know if there are features you'd like to see added. <comment><USER2> I like this - I was thinking of doing something similar a while ago but didn't find much market interest at the time. I see I still have a domain called buyitwhen.com; if you think it might be a fit for you at some stage just drop me a line at gmail.

<comment><AUTHOR> Thanks for the domain offer. I'll keep it in mind.

</comment></comment><comment><USER3> I don't have an android phone. Would love it if it were a web app.

<comment><AUTHOR> Notifications are a bit of a problem with web apps. It's much easier to do everything client side on a mobile device and I haven't figured out how to elegantly implement a notification system on the server side. I could potentially do everything by email but that brings a whole bunch of other headaches with it if I don't want to be blacklisted as a spammer. Currently I'm looking at appcelerator and adobe air to make the app more accessible to a wider audience but that's a little ways away.

<comment><USER3> I'm not sure if it will help, but have you looked at Notifo? They have an API which might help you with notifications for a web app.

<comment><AUTHOR> That would be fine if I had a server sitting somewhere constantly checking for prices. Currently I just push all the code that would be processed on the server onto the client. I'm not expecting to get millions of users but I'm also not interested in managing my own server. Making the whole process decentralized and getting the application on the phone to manage itself is a much better solution. There is no equivalent way to do that for a web app. No matter what I will need some kind of central location for people to push and pull their alerts from if I make a web app and there are plenty of services like that already.

<comment><USER3> That's interesting, so you don't have a server at all? Does that mean you don't collect any usage data? That's key to improving your product and building new ones.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><AUTHOR> Clickable link: [https://market.android.com/details?id=com.daveco.pricewatche...](https://market.android.com/details?id=com.daveco.pricewatcher&feature=search_result)</comment>


101 Tips for Being a Great Programmer (& Human) - <AUTHOR> https://dev.to/emmawedekind/101-tips-for-being-a-great-programmer-human-36nl <comment><USER2> Looks like a badly disguised ad for a coding coach site to me.</comment>


Alteration and invention – Raphael, Vermeer and the mashup - <AUTHOR> http://www.3pipe.net/2013/01/Vermeer-mashup-girl-with-camera.html

<comment><USER2> And people think _modern_ EULA's are bad. Look at the 500-year-old one quoted in the article:

"Hold! You crafty ones, strangers to work, and pilferers of other men's brains. Think not rashly to lay your thievish hands upon my works. Beware! Know you not that I have a grant from the most glorious Emperor Maximillian, that not one throughout the imperial dominion shall be allowed to print or sell fictitious imitations of these engravings? Listen! And bear in mind that if you do so, through spite or through covetousness, not only will your goods be confiscated, but your bodies also placed in mortal danger."

This is actually a remarkably similar concept to the FBI warning [1].

[1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI_Warning>

</comment><comment><AUTHOR> I found this through Andy Ihnatko ([http://ihnatko.com/2013/02/23/three-pipe- problem-alteration-...](http://ihnatko.com/2013/02/23/three-pipe-problem- alteration-and-invention-raphael-vermeer-and-the-mashup/)) who ties it in part to the (software) patent problem.</comment>


Snake Game in 30 lines of JavaScript - <AUTHOR> http://jsfiddle.net/Uk2PP/9/ <comment><USER2> Not to be unappreciative of this cool demo, but here's a snake game I wrote a while ago that clocks in at 41 "commented lines" of code, and minifies to under 1KB of code whilst including setting up the DOM and CSS (which is counted separately here), and features such as pausing and aging food:

[http://chengsun.github.io/snake.html](http://chengsun.github.io/snake.html)

<comment><USER3> Nice. Yours has better graphics, better speed, a pause/play function, and it doesn't loop around. Much better :)

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> Need to insert "[Some app] in [# of lines] of JavaScript" in that 4chan thread.

</comment><comment><USER5> Neat. You might consider setting the setInterval to something lower than a second though. It'll be more fun to play that way ...

<comment><USER6> Change line 28 to something like 200 ms and then it's quite playable:

        }, 200);

</comment></comment><comment><AUTHOR> Original: [http://habrahabr.ru/post/202476/](http://habrahabr.ru/post/202476/)

</comment><comment><USER7> There's an annoying bug where you lose if you tap the button to go opposite the direction in which you're heading. e.g. if you're heading right and you tap left, you lose.

<comment><USER8> Plenty of actual snake implementations had the same thing, so it is at least "authentic"!

</comment></comment><comment><USER9> Here is a Snake implemented in React:

Demo: [http://tomocchino.github.io/react- snake/](http://tomocchino.github.io/react-snake/)

Source (150 lines): [https://github.com/tomocchino/react- snake/blob/master/src/sn...](https://github.com/tomocchino/react- snake/blob/master/src/snake.js)

<comment><USER10> Cool, learning React at the mo so this is appreciated. You can remove all those autoBinds now [1] right?

[1] [http://facebook.github.io/react/blog/2013/07/02/react-v0-4-a...](http://facebook.github.io/react/blog/2013/07/02/react-v0-4-autobind- by-default.html)

<comment><USER9> Yes, autoBind are done by default now. Also, you need to replace `class` by `className` in JSX.

You can also take the advantage of getDefaultProps() instead of doing `this.props.something || 12` everywhere.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER11> I really like this whole concept of using small projects like this and the spreadsheet thing to create simple, yet elegant apps.

I wonder if this could be a good method for teaching technologies like CSS, JS, and HTML? If you think about it, there isn't a lot of code here, so it would be easy for a student to go through it line by line and end up learning a lot.

</comment><comment> adam-a Quite cool!

My attempt, 31 lines (although some of them are quite long :) [http://jsfiddle.net/8Rqcy/5/](http://jsfiddle.net/8Rqcy/5/)

Has score counting, restarts, walls, you can't go back on yourself, and speed increases.

</comment><comment><USER12> Put all lines on one line, and you have "Snake Game in 1 line of JavaScript".

</comment><comment><USER13> Very cool. Snake was the first non-trivial program I wrote, in TI-BASIC, more than a decade ago. It was definitely less than 30 lines back then.

</comment><comment><USER14> lines like: dx = (e.keyCode - 38) % 2, dy = (e.keyCode - 39) % 2; is cheating. In that case, you could probably make it 1 line of javascript.

<comment><USER7> I agree, there are like 7 lines that bunch together logic using commas.

This one has three operations in one line:

      newEl.className = newEl.className.replace(' f', ''), length++, hasFood = false;

</comment></comment><comment><USER15> With jQuery it's just

<comment><USER16> and where is snakegame() defined?

</comment></comment><comment><USER17> There is a bug where if you move into a space where your tail was but no longer is, you die. Essentially, the check for gameover needs to be after you move the snake.

</comment><comment><USER18> 219 bytes for tron: [http://quaxio.com/tron/](http://quaxio.com/tron/), snakes shouldn't require a lot more :)

</comment><comment><USER19> Change the setInterval value to something like 200 to make the snake faster and the game funner!

</comment><comment><USER20> I just wish I could understand all the code - maybe a weekend project soon ^_^

</comment><comment><USER21> I wouldn't play it.

Proof of concept apps in few lines of code might be cool, but the devil is in the details. The last 10% takes 90% of the time.

<comment><USER21> I guess I'm wrong, but for me the purpose of a game is to be fun to play. This one isn't.</comment></comment>


Save OS X - <AUTHOR> http://saveosx.org <comment><USER2> I'm interested, but how is this better, or different, than homebrew?

<comment><USER3> tl;dr: It installs pre-built binary packages instead of building from source as Homebrew and MacPorts does. There are a few other differences, but that's the biggest one.

<comment><USER4> To be honest most of Homebrew stuff is "bottled" IE its pre-builts most of the time you no longer have to actually build it from source... So its not even really a difference any more!

<comment><USER3> Ah, I was unaware - I'm still a MacPorts hold-out myself. (It ain't broke, so I haven't fixed it.) Thanks for the correction.</comment></comment></comment></comment>


MySQL Forks - <AUTHOR> http://practical-tech.com/development/mysql-forks/ <comment><USER2> The fact that this article doesn't even mention Drizzle (<https://launchpad.net/drizzle>) makes me question if the writer understands that "forks" is plural.

<comment><USER3> Though I don't see why an article about mysql forking wouldn't mention Drizzle, I think the writer was using forks as a verb.</comment></comment>


The Real Obama Doctrine - <AUTHOR> http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-real-obama-doctrine-1444429036 <comment><USER2> This isn't really relevant to this site and comes from the WSJ which is hardly neutral.

Also it seems to forget that most of the engagements of the US are part of a wide coalition. There is no simple answer to the Middle East, Russia or China. Unless of course you prefer the simple bomb now, ask questions later doctrine of the far right.

<comment><USER3> Well, the author clearly has a crush on Dr Kissinger. But whatever, the characterization "a talented vote-getter, surrounded by lawyers, who is overly risk-averse" does seem accurate.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> Doesn't linking to a paywalled site somewhat restrict open discussion on the subject?

Perhaps HN could flag/ignore these WSJ submissions.

<comment><USER5> [https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB4QFjAAahUKEwjx9pCF7L7IAhVPw2MKHUF1Bns&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Fthe- real-obama- doctrine-1444429036&usg=AFQjCNGzKZsH9ZEFrd4sOe8_jO6IIeskDg&sig2=RoOI1vIGaMcTZz4Sx4yNzg)

<comment><USER3> That didn't work. But this did: [http://www.wsj.com/article_email/the-real- obama-doctrine-144...](http://www.wsj.com/article_email/the-real-obama- doctrine-1444429036-lMyQjAxMTI1MjEwMDgxMTA1Wj)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> Flagged as politics without specific hacker interest.</comment>


Running production PostgreSQL systems on ARM architecture? [pdf] - <AUTHOR> http://www.cybertec.at/secret/PostgreSQLonARM.pdf <comment><AUTHOR> Linked to the PDF because it gives more detailed information. Here is the introduction to it: [http://www.cybertec.at/running-production-postgresql- systems...](http://www.cybertec.at/running-production-postgresql-systems-on- arm-architecture/)</comment>


Weizsäcker's speech on 40th anniversary of WW2's end (1985) - <AUTHOR> http://www.bundespraesident.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Reden/2015/02/150202-RvW-Rede-8-Mai-1985-englisch.pdf;jsessionid=9BC204670EC73ACE845085C27F5A7DC6.2_cid285?__blob=publicationFile <comment><USER2> "Guilt is, like innocence, not collective, but personal...The vast majority of today's population were either children then or had not been born. They cannot profess a guilt of their own for crimes that they did not commit. No discerning person can expect them to wear a penitential robe simply because they are Germans. But their forefathers have left them a grave legacy. All of us, whether guilty or not, whether old or young, must accept the past."

<comment><USER3> Just to be sure that the passage is not misinterpreted (not saying you do, OP): This was not said to excuse the Germans from the responsibility of facing their history.

I can personally be not guilty and yet, by being part of a society that builds on a troubled past, bear the responsibilities that come with that past (responsibility to do better, reparations, making amends, and alike).

And in this spirit, Weizaecker continued: "No discerning person can expect them to wear a penitential robe simply because they are Germans. But their forefathers have left them a grave legacy. All of us, whether guilty or not, whether old or young, must accept the past. We are all affected by its consequences and liable for it. The young and old generations must and can help each other to understand why it is vital to keep alive the memories."

This point can imv be applied to many historical failings and their long lasting legacies.

<comment><USER4> > This point can imv be applied to many historical failings and their long > lasting legacies.

Feels particularly resonant at this point in the United States. I've heard the argument before that slavery was abolished long ago, so it's time to move on. Unfortunately to the contrary: the effects are still with us. That doesn't mean us white folks have to assume personal guilt as if we held slaves ourselves, but we should be active in making amends.

<comment><USER5> The US also needs at some point to acknowledge it's past evils. Perhaps no penance is needed, but it is need to acknowledge the evils of the confederacy (and many other things like redlining, but I feel those are widely believed as wrong today).

We as a country need our own truth and reconciliation commission.

<comment><USER6> Out of curiosity what does "acknowledge" mean to you?

I want to do my part to acknowledge, just want to make sure we are aligned on definitions.

<comment><USER5> I'm not too into the specifics, but if you are interested take a listen to Bryan Stevenson: [https://www.npr.org/books/authors/356964348/bryan- stevenson](https://www.npr.org/books/authors/356964348/bryan-stevenson) [https://www.vox.com/2017/5/24/15675606/bryan-stevenson- confe...](https://www.vox.com/2017/5/24/15675606/bryan-stevenson-confederacy- monuments-slavery-ezra-klein)

Short story: Having confederate monuments and the way history is thought in schools in some places is for sure a start. We need to get away from the south did nothing wrong, and of course put focus on what the north did wrong as well. There is a reason Minnesota is not the best place to live for black people.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> This: "For us, the 8th of May is above all a date to remember what people had to suffer. It is also a date to reflect on the course taken by our history. The greater honesty we show in commemorating this day, the freer we are to face the consequences with due responsibility. For us Germans, 8 May is not a day of celebration. Those who actually witnessed that day in 1945 think back on highly personal and hence highly different experiences. Some returned home, others lost their homes. Some were liberated, whilst for others it was the start of captivity. Many were simply grateful that the bombing at night and fear had passed and that they had survived. Others felt first and foremost grief at the complete defeat suffered by their country. Some Germans felt bitterness about their shattered illusions, whilst others were grateful for the gift of a new start."

</comment><comment><USER8> The honesty and bravery of the speech is remarkable - that a leader can tell those he leads painful and difficult truths - rather than tell them merely what will appease them. Everyday we see evidence of how easy it is to appeal to base and superficial feelings, rather than what is noble and honest. There is so much we can learn from both the causes of the tyranny and how the aftermath was handled, politically, personally and socially.

</comment><comment><USER9> Just a little background from a German perspective: Weizsäcker here is not the physicist but Richard von Weizsäcker, his brother.

Richard von Weizsäcker was President of Germany from mid 80s to mid 90s. The President of Germany is, simply put, like British Monarchy. In practice he has mostly a representative role. As a president Weizsäcker was well popular in Germany and neither was reclusive nor caused any scandals, which cannot be said about later presidents.

<comment><USER10> Except unlike the British Monarchy, one is not born into the position and cannot expect to gain the position purely by blood. The position itself may be largely ceremonial, but the holder of the post is recognised as an elder statesperson in their own right for their career prior to the presidency.

<comment><USER11> You can still get duffers in such jobs as often a candidate is put forward who's agreeable all parties and as such can be the lowest common denominator who won't rock the boat.

<comment><USER10> Term limits, though. :)

<comment><USER12> Which is interesting, because those aren't common in Germany. For the Bundespräsident, they have another interesting thing: there are no limits on how many terms you serve, you just can't serve more than two in a row.

<comment><USER13> But that's also true for e.g. the US and russian presidents, no? Except those actually hold real power.

In practise, most german presidents will just be way too old four years after they leave office to be a viable candidate, and it looks a bit absurd for them to be pushed back into the office, exactly because there's very little real power.

<comment><USER12> I don't think it's possible for the US president, they are limited to 10 years (two terms + two years if they were vice president and became acting president) which, afaik, is per life-time.

I agree though, it's not an issue, precisely because the German president has historically not acted partisan (even though he's usually a member of a party) and not be involved in day-to-day politics, so it's not too hard to find somebody that everybody can agree on. This may change if the office becomes more politicized, but I doubt we'll see somebody get re-elected after having paused for a term.

<comment><USER10> That's correct - a US president cannot serve more than two terms. If they were already acting as President for two or more years, they can only be elected to the position once. This was codified in the 22nd Amendment to the US Constitution.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER14> Since we're on the topic of Germany WWII. I read a couple books about Treblinka over the weekend. The atrocities that happened there were sickening. To read about what these people were forced to do there in this death camp is painful.

The Germans and Ukrainians who did these horrific acts of murder and torture were unaffected by it, as told by two authors who survived.

It leaves me with more questions than answers. How can people do this to others, it takes so little to motivate people to turn into savage murders, and why did then not teach us about these death camps in school. Everyone knows about Auschwitz but they skipped over the pure death camps and focused more on the rah-rah we're winning battles than observing the suffering that took place. It all makes me sad. It makes me sad knowing what some people in America the "free" country were going through during this time too.

<comment><USER15> i don't know where you are from, but the education about the holocaust i received was especially memorable because it went through great detail explaining how the holocaust was different from the millenia of bloodshed and genocide that happened before. (European history is drowned in blood and suppresion sadly).

The holocaust is especially horrifying because it turned killing into an abstract process that made apathy the "silent killer" so to speak.

The holocaust was possible because step by step, the dehumanization and abstraction of the process resulted in people being able to be apathetic to it.

<comment><USER16> Speaking of dehumanisation and abstraction, Roberto Begnini's "math problem" scene: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LhuGKejDq8&t=116](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LhuGKejDq8&t=116) came to mind during March-era discussions of possible Covid responses.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER17> Background information: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_von_Weizs%C3%A4cker#Sp...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_von_Weizs%C3%A4cker#Speech_on_the_40th_anniversary_of_the_end_of_World_War_II)

Speech in German: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ZAzpk4IbE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ZAzpk4IbE)

</comment><comment><USER18> This passage near the end resonated with me:

"In our country, a new generation has grown up to assume political responsibility. Our young people are not responsible for what happened over forty years ago. But they are responsible for the historical consequences. We in the older generation owe to young people not the fulfilment of dreams but honesty. We must help younger people to understand why it is vital to keep memories alive. We want to help them to accept historical truth soberly, not one-sidedly, without taking refuge in utopian doctrines, but also without moral arrogance.

From our own history we learn what man is capable of. For that reason we must not imagine that we are now quite different and have become better. There is no ultimately achievable moral perfection – for no individual and for no nation. We have learned as human beings, and as human beings we remain in danger. But we have the strength to overcome such danger again and again.

Hitler's constant approach was to stir up prejudices, enmity and hatred. What is asked of young people today is this: do not let yourselves be forced into enmity and hatred of other people, of Russians or Americans, Jews or Turks, of alternatives or conservatives, blacks or whites. Learn to live together, not in opposition to each other."

</comment><comment><USER19> Guilt over past crimes is mainly a western thing.

There is for example, no such thing in modern Turkey over the extermination of the native peoples of Anatolia which led to the formation of the Turkish state with a uniform religious/ethnic composition. On the contrary, that is a source of national pride these days.

Other examples abound (India, Pakistan, China, etc)

<comment><USER20> That's how it looks if you oversimplify history and do it with only one sentence. Turks started to migrate into Anatolia about 600 AD. However, the most defining moment and the most known turning point is the Battle of Menzikert in 1071. This puts at least 1000 years of slow demographic change.

We can argue a lot of details about how it happened. But it is better to stick to your main argument that the guilt over past crimes is mainly a Western thing. That could not be further than the truth. That's where I object mainly. Such demographic changes happened much faster and more brutal in the West by the Western people. Both North and South American continents that are tens of times larger areas than Anatolia has seen genocidal change for a much shorter period of time for much bigger population. It is estimated that the populate in North America was comparable to that of Europe when "discoveries" started. I do not see such guilt proportional to what happened.

You may think that those are a bit in the past. How about French and Belgian colonialism. The crimes committed by Belgian in Kongo pales even that of Germans. The most conservative figure is that Belgians killed 10 Million people. The upper estimate is about 40M. Why we do not hear about those crimes as much as about what Germans did ? Kongolese are not human? or this much emphasis serve a political agenda?

<comment><USER19> Regardless of when the first Turk appeared in Anatolia, it does not change the fact that the native populations were completely wiped out mostly in recent history. Is the state organized extermination of Armenians taught to Turkish schools like the crimes of colonialism are in major western former colonial powers? How about the current treatment of Kurds in Turkey and even in neighboring countries?

It is you oversimplifying and throwing around numbers to over-justify.

I stand by my main claim the revisiting past crimes of nationhood, is mainly a western thing.

<comment><USER20> I am deliberately avoiding the Armenian issue not to overlook it but not to lose focus. I wanted to reply to your "mainly a Western thing" argument. All my examples were only to enforce the argument and not to divert the attention. That is why I am not dignifying other threads by replying since they are doing exactly what they accuse me of.

It was probably my mistake not to make my point clear enough. I would like to restate my argument is that we only hear German war crimes at this high amplitude and frequency but almost never about the crimes committed by French or Belgian or any other Western nation. Not on the front page of HN nor on NYTimes. French and Belgian atrocities were also a nation-state crime including the one committed in the Americas.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER21> List of major perpetrators of the Holocaust

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_major_perpetrators_of_...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_major_perpetrators_of_the_Holocaust)

Massacres and war crimes of World War II by location

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_war_crimes#Massacres_an...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_war_crimes#Massacres_and_war_crimes_of_World_War_II_by_location)

War crimes of the Wehrmacht

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht)

Myth of the clean Wehrmacht

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_clean_Wehrmacht](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_clean_Wehrmacht)

German mistreatment of Soviet prisoners of war

> It is estimated that at least 3.3 million Soviet POWs died in Nazi custody, > out of 5.7 million.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_mistreatment_of_Soviet_...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_mistreatment_of_Soviet_prisoners_of_war#:~:text=It%20is%20estimated%20that%20at,prisoners%20who%20died%20were%20Jews).

</comment><comment><USER22> Only Nixon can go to China.

Only a conservative political leader who was a captain on the Eastern Front telling the nation that it was time to acknowledge the past and look to the future could be heard.

<comment><USER12> "Acknowledge the past" would have been a controversial position in 1945, maybe in 1955, but definitely not in 1985.

</comment></comment><comment><AUTHOR> "Yet with every day something became clearer, and this must be stated on behalf of all of us today: the 8th of May was a day of liberation. It liberated all of us from the inhumanity and tyranny of the National-Socialist regime."

"What is asked of young people today is this: do not let yourselves be forced into enmity and hatred of other people, of Russians or Americans, Jews or Turks, of alternatives or conservatives, blacks or whites. Learn to live together, not in opposition to each other."

</comment><comment><USER23> It's educational how Germany's East / West division reverberates in this speech with the special relation to the USSR. The apologetic tone, appeasement, justification.

One can only hope that this would no longer be necessary nowadays.

<comment><USER24> Why would apology no longer be necessary? The crimes committed by Germans against the population of the USSR are unspeakable.

One can only hope that apologies like these will never again be necessary.

<comment><USER25> And the USSR undertook the greatest ethnic cleansing of the 20th century in response. Should they apologize for that?

<comment><USER26> The USSR ethnically cleansed Germany in response? What? Or do you mean something else?

Had Nazi Germany prevailed, it is estimated about 30 million of all Slavs in Eastern Europe would have been cleansed, as per the stated goals of Generalplan Ost [1]. Getting rid of "undesirables" and "surplus population" on one of the widest scales mankind had ever seen was one of the main goals of Nazi expansion. They started to carry out this plan, but thankfully losing the war put a stop to that.

On the other hand, the USSR did prevail, and made East Germany into a puppet state. We can see the results without speculation. Indeed this resulted in repression and suppression and execution of political dissidents, let's not mince words here. But there are still Germans alive, aren't there? Had Nazi Germany prevailed, there would be few, if any, Slavs -- Russians, Poles or whatever -- alive today.

The two cases aren't even remotely comparable.

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[1] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost)

<comment><USER27> > The USSR ethnically cleansed Germany in response? What?

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_German...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_\(1944%E2%80%931950\))

In particular, postwar Poland basically moved west: the Soviet Union kept the 77.6 thousand square miles of Polish territory it had captured when both Germany and Russia partitioned it in 1939, while Poland was given 48.1 thousand miles of German territory. The Soviet-backed Polish government cleansed the formerly-German territories of ethnic Germans.

Given the far worse behaviour of Germany during the war (I believe most Germans survived the ethnic cleansing committed by Poland, while the goal of Nazi Germany was extermination of the Poles), it can be a bit difficult to care about the suffering of Germans. But consider that IIRC roughly two million Germans died in the expulsions from Poland and other countries, and no doubt at least a few of those were innocent women and children (as, of course, were many of Nazi Germany's victims). Two wrongs do not make a right, and mass murder of innocent civilians is always wrong.

<comment><USER26> > _Two wrongs do not make a right, and mass murder of innocent civilians is > always wrong._

Fully agreed. It's hard to see the two events as similar, though. The scale (and intent) alone is mind-boggingly different. The Germans intended to wipe out Slavs (and other undesirables), and you couldn't opt out of this by swallowing the party line or swearing allegiance to Germany (just as you couldn't opt out of being a Jew -- Nazis didn't care about your religious beliefs, if any; they considered Jewishness a "race" to be exterminated). At best you could hope for their bullshit racial policies to deem you "Germanic", if you looked white enough and weren't Jewish.

Compare this with Germans under the Soviet sphere of influence. Puppets, maybe, but alive as long as they cooperated with the ruling ideology. There was no plan to ethnically cleanse them to make room for Soviet citizens in German land.

<comment><USER28> _Compare this with Germans under the Soviet sphere of influence. Puppets, maybe, but alive as long as they cooperated with the ruling ideology. There was no plan to ethnically cleanse them to make room for Soviet citizens in German land._

The USSR declared Germans in the annexed territories illegal residents. Going by Wikipedia, in 1947/48, officially, 102,125 Germans got shipped from East Prussia to the Soviet Zone, though only 99,481 arrived there (one reason for this was that food wasn't always provided on a journey that took 4-7 days by train). The GDR attributed this discrepancy to a 'calculation error'.

There's also the issue of German orphans that were left behind (which are known as 'Wolskinder'). The lucky ones got adopted (eg by Lithuanian farmers), changed their names, and pretended not to be German. The unlucky ones were exploited as cheap labour, starved or got killed. His criticism of the treatment of German civilians was one of the things that got Solzhenitsyn arrested.

<comment><USER26> I understand all of this. However, again look at the numbers and planned genocide: the Nazis aimed at killing -- murdering, not expelling, mind you -- most of the Slavic population of Eastern Europe. About _30 million_ people would have been killed, both through starvation and shooting/gassing if they didn't die fast enough, because they were deemed vermin and "surplus" population. And this wasn't even retaliation for anything, it was planned in cold blood.

Did the Soviets exterminate all Germans in their sphere of influence once they won the war? What were the Nazi plans had they won (and which they partially implemented during the war)?

This doesn't excuse even a single German civilian killed by the Soviets. But the scale and planning are tremendously different, which is why the comparison makes little sense. I think the latter day equivocation that both sides were more or less the same is a regrettable artifact of Cold War thinking.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER29> Sentences made for eternity:

"Hitler's constant approach was to stir up prejudices, enmity and hatred. What is asked of young people today is this: do not let yourselves be forced into enmity and hatred of other people, of Russians or Americans, Jews or Turks, of alternatives or conservatives, blacks or whites. Learn to live together, not in opposition to each other."

</comment><comment><USER29> Why is May the 8th still not a public holiday in Germany?

</comment><comment><USER30> I couldn't read the whole thing, but as a Jew whose relatives and culture was murdered by the Germans, I found it did not adequately address the reality that many Germans knew about the camps (to say nothing of the progroms and humiliations that preceded them) and that the people who perpetrated the Holocaust were in large part incorporated unreformed into German society after the war.

The speech reads

> Yet with every day something became clearer, and this must be stated on > behalf of all of us today: the 8th of May was a day of liberation. It > liberated all of us from the inhumanity and tyranny of the National- > Socialist regime.

Maybe this rang true to many Germans of 1985, I can't know. But the historical fact is (just to take an example) the post war German government was staffed with individuals who served at high positions in the Nazi regime and surely believed in, or at least we're comfortable with, the Nazi cause. I'm sure in the private sector there were even more unreformed Nazis.

It also seems to suggest that the German people couldn't know what atrocities were being committed, which it was well known what was going on. Both the camps and the progroms and public humiliations visited upon Jews and others. EDIT: I take the criticism of some of the commenters below that not all Germans knew the full extent of the mass murder.

So the whole speech rings hollow to me, and it's purpose mostly seems to be to assuage the guilt of an entire population responsible for truly horrific acts. Which, yeah, the Germans would need that in order to be able to move forward, but the comments here are definitely not understanding the speech in that critical light.

<comment><USER31> Saying that the German people all knew of what was being done is not historical, nor the experience of my family. When my great grandparents were taken from their home in 1943 along with all the other Jews in town (other than my Grandmother who was married to a non-Jew, and my mother) they had no idea where they were being taken. Of course they all died but no one had any idea until after the war was over and even today we can only speculate exactly where. My grandmother later survived a year in a camp, and my mom hid in a basement for year as a child. No one in their small town had any inkling of what was happening inside Germany other than what the propaganda was telling them, although there were people with hidden radios in town, even the Allies did not say anything useful.

To say everyone knew is incorrect; to imagine you could change things if you knew is also wrong. Can we today stop our government from cramming children into cages and then forgetting them? Yet we have modern media and still horrific things are done in our name and we either ignore it or feel helpless to do anything.

History is bad enough without changing it just because we have moved beyond, nor is forgetting its lessons and winding up in the same boat again. Guilt belongs to the guilty not the collective; it's up to the collective to ensure it never happens again and keep the guilty from getting away.

<comment><USER30> > To say everyone knew is incorrect; to imagine you could change things if you > knew is also wrong. Can we today stop our government from cramming children > into cages and then forgetting them? Yet we have modern media and still > horrific things are done in our name and we either ignore it or feel > helpless to do anything.

I agree with this point and take your criticism that I painted with too broad a brush in terms of who could know what.

<comment><USER32> Careful now. Everybody knew the Jews were persecuted, had their rights and belongings taken away and were rounded up in ghettos and camps, from where they eventually were "evacuated to the East". What civilians could justifiably claim is they didn't know where or how the killing happened. Information about this was kept vague. While the concentration camps where public knowledge, the extermination camps were kept secret. So German civilians could say they didn't know about Babi Yar or Treblinka and the gas chambers - but that is a far cry from saying they didn't know about the persecution and genocide.

It should also be noted that the T4 euthanasia program was scaled back due to public protests. This shows not only that people actually knew it happened (even if it was kind-of secret) but also that protest could actually work. The Nazi party actually cared a great deal about public opinion which is why propaganda was so important to them. One of the reasons the extermination camps were kept secret is they feared protests.

There were also the Rosenstrasse protests, where (non-Jewish) wives of Jewish men protested against deportation of their men. This actually caused the men to be released.

So "we didn't know and couldn't have done anything anyway" is ahistorical. I can understand why people cling to it, but it is a dangerous myth.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER33> It is a famous and well written speech, made at a time when Germany was still a cohesive country and WWII criminals were still alive.

I don't see the relevance when we face completely different issues nowadays. European/German guilt has been used to justify a lot of measures that strangely enough always benefited the upper class and the stock market.

Perhaps there should be a new Weizsaecker speech.

<comment><USER34> Different issues, still generally applicable principles. Yes, there should be a new Wiezsaecker speech.

I just doubt it would be what you think, considering your views on "German/European guilt".

<comment><USER35> I have German citizenship but have not lived in Germany since my teens, so I'm a bit ignorant of the political situation these days. How would you summarize GP's views on German/European guilt?

<comment><USER36> It's probably a reference to immigration and how it (in their view) only benefited Capital owners.

<comment><USER35> Is it taboo in Germany to suggest that increasing the supply of labour would drive down the price?

<comment><USER34> Overall, Germany profited greatly from the EU and the Euro. Also average workers. There is a group of employees in very precerious conditions, heritage of Agenda 2020. Nothing taboo to talk about, in fact ALG 2 and such are quite often discussed and challenged.

Both factors have nothing to do with "German Guilt", implying that is a right wing thing. And not grounded in reality.

Given that Weizsaeckers speach was all about accepting history, tolerance and so on, it would be fair to say if anything he would call for unity against racism, nationalism and so on.

<comment><USER37> No such thing has been implied, but you are only attacking straw men in this subthread (Dolchstosslegende, really?),

European guilt (countries fighting each other since the beginning of time) has been used as a justification for the European Union.

German guilt has been used as a justification for the Euro.

The theory that average workers benefit from the Euro is false, and usually only propagated by those in cozy government positions, like bureaucrats or teachers who are isolated from reality.

> implying that is a right wing thing.

And there we go, such a position is literally fascist.</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment>