AngularJS Tutorial: now real-time with no backend using Firebase - <AUTHOR> http://www.thinkster.io/pick/eHPCs7s87O/angularjs-tutorial-learn-to-rapidly-build-real-time-web-apps-with-firebase?1

<comment><USER2> I would love it if they eliminated this one step:

      * The files are served off of a basic Node server...

By eliminating that they would truly achieve their goal to get rid of "Mucking around in backend code".

They're already storing their data in Firebase, so why not store ALL of their data in firebase, including those assets that they currently are using Node to deliver? Think about it: ALL data stored in Firebase (or a similar DB-as-a- service API), including HTML, css, javascript, images, etc... Finally, you could could create a web and app service and never touch a server. Sweet!</comment>


Porsche shatters the Nürburgring record we thought was unbreakable - <AUTHOR> https://arstechnica.com/?p=1339009 <comment><USER2> Comically fast, like video-game-I-can-just-hit-restart fast. A couple highlights of that YouTube video from sections of the track that are notoriously difficult:

[YouTube Time]

00:49 -> 00:53 - Flugplatz at nearly 170mph is insane. Total trust in downforce and makes up many seconds if done right.

01:13 -> 01:25 - Fuchsrohre bottoming out at 200+ mph is nuts.

03:15 -> 03:20 - Interesting that Timo avoids the carousel.

04:21 -> 04:31 - Pflanzgarten into SBS topping at nearly 200mph. Suspension setup is huge here.

List of the sections:

[http://www.nuerburgring.de/en/fans-info/race- tracks/nordschl...](http://www.nuerburgring.de/en/fans-info/race- tracks/nordschleife/sections-of-the-track.html)

Nobody in motorsports really thought Bellof's record was unbreakable, just that it was left intact out of respect and the obvious conclusion that any mfr could crush it if they so desired. The 919 Evo holds the Spa Record because the F1 record was done under all sorts of homologation restrictions. A sub-5 Ring time would easily be possible with a non-homologated F1 car similar to this unrestricted 919.

Still eagerly awaiting VW's Pike's Peak video. This has been the year of toppling track records!

<comment><USER3> Knowing nothing about this subject, I'm a bit confused by the parent: The first section talks about how incredible the performance is - "comically fast", "nuts", etc. The second to last paragraph seems to say that it is easily done.

Would you explain to easily confused, non-car-racing-enthusiasts? EDIT: In fact, I should ask: What is the significance of Nurburgring?

<comment><USER4> "What is the significance of Nurburgring?"

It's a very long and very tricky track. It has everything: superfast sections, slow sections, steep uphill and downhill, bumps, banking, often wet. If a car does well on this track it will do well almost everywhere. It's called the "green hell". I don't think there is another track worldwide left that can compare.

<comment><USER5> The Mountain Circuit on Isle of Man.

<comment><USER6> Equally legendary, often deadly, and also absolutely wouldn't even be considered if someone proposed it today.

And the Nürburgring has various safety features. The Mountain Circuit has basically nothing, just a road.

<comment><USER4> And accessible only for a few days a year.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBFjHjm0O5M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBFjHjm0O5M)

<comment><USER8> He spent a fair amount of time bouncing off the rev limiter on the straightaway. Car could have used an eighth gear.

<comment><USER9> Eighth? Slow down there. The car comes with 4, 5 being an add-on package. It could also use more than 52HP. I suspect you might be commenting on the video in the article, rather than this comment with a video of a 1993 Citroën AX 14D.

Regarding the Porsche, I doubt it would have been useful. The car maxed out at 369km/h, and was unable to maintain the speed for long. I doubt it has the torque to pull further ahead in an eighth gear. Furthermore, the heavier gearbox would weigh the car down for the entire race, and the shift to eighth would by itself cost the car a little bit of time.

It seemed like everything was actually quite well balanced. It was only maxed out for a tiny moment, so it seemed to be the perfect balance between lightweight and brute force.

<comment><USER8> Whoops. I had assumed the comment with a youtube link and no other commentary was just hosting the youtube video from tfa, rather than posting an entirely unrelated video. How annoying. Far too late to edit or delete my reply, of course.

<comment><USER10> That other video is well worth watching though. Flat-out balls-to-the-wall for the entire length, with no braking, in an old beater. It's impressive.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER11> I have been able to look under the bonnet of this car, this has nothing to do at all with how you imagine a car - pure high tech. And during the race, the complications caused due to the massive Battery force the people around the Race Track for emergency purposes to look like in a weird fetish movie: Rubber Boots, Rubber GLoves, Face masks, huge mats made out of rubber to stand on during rescue... And then seeing this car on the track... mental. I have seen many a great race on the Nordschleife, but that... Holy shit you get a spinal injury just trying to follow that thing flying past.

<comment><USER12> It would be terrifying to be in the car.

</comment></comment><comment><USER13> I would love to see how fast this can be done by a customized self driving car. (think: full knowledge of track geometries, of its own physical specifications, etc..)

<comment><USER14> Well there's the driverless race series that they've been promising for a while so hopefully will know fairly soon.

</comment></comment><comment><USER15> People are downplaying this saying well the track has changed, the asphalt has been relaid, the conditions are different, of course someone could beat that time.

I see it as, Porsche have just laid down a new benchmark to beat

</comment><comment><USER16> The amount of bouncing around at 300+ kph is terrifying to watch

</comment><comment><USER17> Nobody thought it was unbreakable, just people stopped using the increasingly faster cars on the track because it is dangerous as fuck. I mean just watch the video of it, I wouldn't be going that fast in a video game on that track because it would be so damn easy to fuck up and crash.

</comment><comment><USER18> It wasn't unbreakable, nobody was trying to break it. Nobody wants to risk multi-million dollar, one-of-a-kind race cars on that track just for bragging rights.

An unrestricted F1 car could've smashed the record at any point in the last 20 years.

<comment><USER19> Porsche actually approached Stefan Bellof's family for permission for the attempt out of respect for both him and the record.

I wouldn't underestimate the kudos given to 'ring lap times, especially in the past few years. Admittedly mostly focused on lower categories rather than the outright record.

</comment></comment><comment><USER20> That V4 they have. Quite a remarkable engine. No comparison to the piece of "space age" crap that was Zaporozetz's magnesium alloy V4.

</comment><comment><USER21> I have been daydreaming lately about how the Tesla Roadster 2 should be easily able to take the record around the ring for a production car. I'm hoping it will smash the record.

<comment><USER4> I don't see in what area it should have an advantage over a car with a gas engine.

<comment><USER21> I would think an 8.9 sec 1/4 mile is everything you need to know, especially when Elon has said that's the base model and there will be "performance upgrades" that make it faster.

If you're not familiar, just google the 1/4 mile time of any fast car you can think of, and then look into how hard it is to go from say 10.5 to 10.0, then 9.9

Obviously I know a lap time needs a lot more than straight line acceleration, but if the 1/4 mile time is anything to go by, this car is going to be the kind of fast we have never seen before. Anyway, time will tell and it's fun to think about.

<comment><USER4> Straight line acceleration is pretty useless on a real track if you don't have the handling in corners. I assume the roadster will be pretty heavy. The Model S is also a beast going straight but cornering is much less fun with it because it's so heavy.

<comment><USER21> At 10.86 1/4 mile, the P100D is a _snail_ compared to the Roadster 2 at 8.9.

We're talking about the difference between a Cesna and a fighter plane, and then some.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER22> HUGE!

</comment><comment><USER23> Not bad, but this is still my all time fav Nürburgring lap: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSMCfPASImQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSMCfPASImQ)

<comment><USER24> Oh wow. At first with the way he was thrashing around I thought he was some kind of idiot. But the fact that he didn't die makes me think maybe he's actually some kind of driving god.

<comment><USER25> He was a brilliant driver in a car he had a lot of experience with. (IIRC he was a Ruf test driver) That was an amazing car with just far too much power in relation to how much traction it had, hence the sliding around and constant recovery from sliding around. A 500hp twin-turbo motor in a modified narrow- body 911 chassis without the super wide tires in the rear like you'd see on an older, wide-body factory Porsche 911 turbo. (they opted for low weight and better aero over traction)

That video makes other Nurburgring videos look a little tame by comparison. The car held the (street car) record on that track for a while.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER26> As the years go by the Nürburgring gets ever more legendary. It is better known now than when they hosted F1 races on the smaller circuit they have there.

You could imagine it was designed by sick Nazis to kill racing drivers however it predates max-Nazi-ism and was designed for testing cars, not drivers. Hence tomorrow everyone will have forgotten who got the fastest lap but they will remember what car they were in.

<comment><USER27> _You could imagine it was designed by sick Nazis to kill racing drivers_

There's a James Bond book about that.[1]

[1] [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U1ZV63Y](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U1ZV63Y)

</comment></comment><comment><USER28> 5:19 almost seems impossible. I think we will see sub 5 minutes within the next 5 years at this rate.

It seems like Lamborghini just gave up in a dick measuring contest.

Nurburgring is Porsche's home turf. German's aren't outwardly nationalistic but they take a lot of pride and result orientated bunch.

Also ironic that Lambo is practically an Audi.

I will buy a porsche instead of a Lambo, this type of effort just shows to me Porsche deserves my money (Sorry Audi).

I am so crazy about cars that I am emigrating to Germany to be closer to the Nurburgring....

Will my 18 years of Gran Turismo on the Playstation finally pay off irl? I'm gonna start with a cheap JDM and then after I get really good (at least 100+ laps), I'm gonna buy a porsche RS and finally live the Deutsche Dream.

<comment><USER29> If you think Gran Turismo on a Playstation is preparation for driving a Porsche RS in anger then you probably should up your life insurance.

Better go to a real driving school first (not one of those 'experience' things, an actual school), you'll be very happy that you did.

<comment><USER28> I do not.</comment></comment></comment>


OS X Yosemite breaks webkit - <AUTHOR>

<comment><AUTHOR> I installed the OS X Yosemite update today, and it broke the internet on my computer! I cannot connect using any natively built software. However, I can access the internet using Google Chrome on Yosemite! Is this a trick?

<comment><USER2> Did you do an in-place update? I've had no such problem with Yosemite but I always clean install.</comment></comment>


Show HN: Gource visualizations rendered without a GPU - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/jamesbrink/Envisaged <comment><AUTHOR> This is a project I have been working on after having multiple requests to create Gource videos for various projects. I got tired of murdering my laptop with gource/ffmpeg processes so I set out to get it done on an EC2 instance. There are a handful of Docker containers out there that do gource videos, but they all suffer from two major drawbacks. They are all headless, but all still require a GPU, and secondly they generally like to output raw video eating tons of disk space.

My image has a handful of configurable options, if time permits I would love to add more.

I do have my videos templated out a bit, I have a border separating the date and key from the actual video. This originates from another script I have which creates quad video output so you can compare 4 git repos at once in the same video. I used some sed hackery and named pipes to keep everything in sync. I hope to be adding this script to the container soon as well. Let me know what you think!</comment>


JWT: Java rich web framework (like Vaadin but with graceful degradation) - <AUTHOR> http://webtoolkit.eu/jwt

<comment><USER2> Whenever there is a new web framework released there is the requisite number of people that role their eyes and say "why?"

I love the fact that folks are still innovations and trying different patterns and approaches, even if that means fourfteen web frameworks for java.

Checking out the tutorial, just wanted to Congrats the JWt author on the release.

</comment><comment><AUTHOR> Here is the widgets gallery: <http://jwt.emweb.be/jwt-gallery/gallery>

Test it with disabled javascript too :)

<comment><USER3> The drop-downs seem kind of laggy. How do you position yourself in relation to GWT?

<comment><USER4> An author here. What drop-downs are you referring to? We are a server-side framework (GWT = client-side). That means there is no need to implement a client-server protocol to access server-side resources, which, as application complexity increases, is a huge benefit.

JWt is also the web framework with best support for refactoring (no string- based bindings) and best support for OO design (you can specialize widgets easily).

A JWt application does not rely on JavaScript (unlike GWT) and can be properly indexed by a search engine (unlike GWT). That makes it more general purpose.</comment></comment></comment>


Startup School Speakers Rock the House - <AUTHOR> http://www.foundersatwork.com/1/post/2008/04/startup-school-speakers-rock-the-house.html

<comment><USER2> "And last but not least Kate Courteau for all her help with "afterparty logistics." "

There was an afterparty?

And here I was feeling like one of the cool kids.

</comment><comment><USER3> I'm coming out to interview for YC on Friday, so I should be hacking on our demo. That, or doing some of the massive pile of homework I have, so that I can graduate at the end of this term. However, I watched just one speaker on justin.tv and was hooked. Sunday completely disappeared. Thanks for all the great talks!

</comment><comment><USER4> thanks for organizing startup school! it was awesome.</comment>


Show HN: Themer – a PWA for generating themes for all your tools - <AUTHOR> https://themer.dev <comment><AUTHOR> About a year ago I posted a link to a collection of npm packages for use on the command-line, collectively called `themer`[1]. This link is to an offline- capable Progressive Web App that wraps the CLI packages and adds the capability to not only generate the themes but to more easily create your own set of colors with a tight feedback loop.

The PWA is open source[2] (as is the CLI, of course), features no ads/trackers/analytics (supported solely by Brave Rewards/$BAT), and takes advantage of PWA features like caching for offline use.

Hope you enjoy!

[1] [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16021874](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16021874) [2] [https://github.com/mjswensen/themer](https://github.com/mjswensen/themer)</comment>


Ask HN: How would you reimagine email? - kuro-kuris Hi HN, In a couple weeks I am going to work on an email redesign project. My initial idea is to use topic extraction to extract "events" from emails inspired by gmail. The events themselves could present the underlying graph to the users. What would you like to see for a smarter email client / assistant? <comment><AUTHOR> The search function in gmail sucks donkey balls. Since a lot of stuff gets buried under the sediment of new emails, being able to search it properly is valuable.

<comment> kuro-kuris Yeah my initial idea was to build graphs based on emails about the same "event" and perhaps show the emails for the largest graph in addition to the option of getting the latest email. Any ideas how you would see this visually?

<comment><AUTHOR> I'm working with graphs myself. There's some good research on graph visualization, but most of it is behind paywalls. If you're a student you can probably get in. The hardest part is combining the graph (nodes & links) with labels. I think most people let the graph itself dictate the drawing, which is a mistake. The labels are probably more important, so the layout of the graph should be rectilinear. Visio does a good job of that. Also, it seems more important to layout the graph starting from the node the reader is focused on, rather than layout the whole graph like a static map, because the reader cares about the thing they're looking at and what it's related to most.</comment></comment></comment>


Study Estimates 50% of Sites That Use WebAssembly Use It for Malicious Purposes - <AUTHOR> https://www.infoq.com/news/2019/10/WebAssembly-wasm-malicious-usage/ <comment><USER2> As a developer writing web applications, I have not found the use-case for WebAssembly, as excited as it makes me about web performance. I think that having it integrated into front-end frameworks could be one such use case (like Microsoft's Blazor).

</comment><comment><USER3> So if browser benchmarking quality stays the same, in a year browser performance will be judged 20% by WebAssembly bitcoin mining performance and the engines will be optimized for it.

</comment><comment><USER4> What percentage of sites that use Javascript use it maliciously?

</comment><comment><USER5> Funny how crypto is often associated with crime.

</comment><comment><USER6> But at least they are sandboxed! /s</comment>


Donating programming books? - <AUTHOR> I am in the process of moving, and have a number of programming books that are either course materials or for languages I don't frequent much any longer.  What do people here do with technical books?
Would love to give them to a local library but I called and they won't even accept book donations.
Is there an non-profit organization that teaches kids programming that I should consider? <comment><USER2> My observation of the used bulk programming book market is that Goodwill Industries tends to sort through used books and cycle them out onto the internet. I don't have data, just anecdote. But I've bought several used programming books online that came from various Goodwill locations and my local Goodwill tends to have computing books in good condition...and I'm not in a tech hub.</comment>


Quick tips for reducing the cognitive load of your code - <AUTHOR> https://medium.com/@christianmaioli/quick-tips-for-reducing-the-cognitive-load-of-your-code-bb75d43b5676#1 <comment><USER2> I've been programming since 1968. While it's good to see these point emphasized, they became established principles of good programming style in the 1980's.

From the context of this post I guess it's necessary to emphasize these again. I'm just appalled that programming style has degenerated so much that it is necessary.</comment>


Dear App, I love you, but can't leave a review on the Google Play Store because - <AUTHOR> ... it insists on making me use my real name* when I leave the review.
Apparently, Google used to let people create an alt-name just for reviews (like Amazon does), but after Sundar got a few billions that changed.
I totally love you, App. Would love to leave a five-star rating. Would love to describe in great detail why you rock. Would love to support your creators and thank them.
But I can't leave bread-crumbs around the net associated with my name. Even though you're not a controversial app at all, public knowledge that I use you could be used in the future as a psych-vector to manipulate me.
* the name on my "Google Account", common across all my Google products (for a particular account anyway... I have multiple accounts).
 Platform: Android N. <comment><USER2> They no longer need your name as a psych-vector to manipulate you.</comment>


Why Users Make More Errors with Instant Inline Validation - <AUTHOR> http://uxmovement.com/forms/why-users-make-more-errors-with-instant-inline-validation/ <comment><USER2> Interesting findings. I find it annoying when seeing an error while I'm still typing into an input. Those premature errors just give JS a bad name.</comment>


LEGO Turing Machine - <AUTHOR> http://vimeo.com/44202270

<comment><USER2> I'm always deeply disappointed (less deeply as time goes by, I'm coming to expect it) when something like this in Lego is actually just a peripheral for a program running in silicon somewhere.

I no longer have any of my Lego, but I remember building most of a completely mechanical Turing Machine way back in the early 1970s. So satisfying seeing it work purely mechanically, and I'm sure someone with more creativity and skill than I had, or indeed have, could do it.

Please?</comment>


Show HN: Fishbone, HTML5/Bootstrap boilerplate with Django on Google App Engine - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/uunbound/fishbone

<comment><USER2> It looks like this app runs the compiled main.js file (fishbone/static/js/main.compiled.js) even when you are developing in your local environment. Is it possible to run the unminified js code with App Engine in dev env and minified in prod? I set up a way of checking if my build directory existed and using it if it does, but it's still a little cludgy. Do you know of a way to do this with App Engine?

<comment><AUTHOR> You are right. For now it runs the minified js in both envs. Yes, it is possible to fix it. There is a local_settings.py which can be customised for each environment separately. If you set the DEBUG variable to TRUE, you can include appropriate assets by checking debug variable in django template. I will add this functionality asap.

<comment><USER2> I see! That's pretty cool. I don't really use django, I basically just use app engine as a backend REST api for my backbone.js app. So, I check if the build directly exists when I'm first loading the app, and the template loads the minified version if it exists, and the unminified version if it doesn't exist. That way I can test the production version by running `grunt build` and refreshing the page. But I still get all the benefits of developing on the unminified version if I just delete the build directory and refresh the page.

<comment><AUTHOR> I guess I fixed the problem you mentioned. I had forgot to polish Gruntfile.coffee. You can now use unminified version of css/js in development environments.

<comment><USER2> Very cool, I'll have to check it out. Thanks!

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER3> I could see this as being useful for students that are beginning to experiment with development in the cloud might have trouble setting up the environment. Although that too is all a part of the learning process. Still, nice work!

<comment><AUTHOR> That's true. Setting up this on the cloud might not be straightforward. Thanks for your input! :)

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> Shoot, that's competing with my framework "RedHotChiliPeppers".

<comment><USER5> Indeed.

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrONIb9gQ-k>

<comment><USER6> Also: [http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Everyday_Sunshine_The_Stor...](http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Everyday_Sunshine_The_Story_of_Fishbone/70140540?locale=en- US)</comment></comment></comment>


X/HTML 5 Versus XHTML 2 - <AUTHOR> http://xhtml.com/en/future/x-html-5-versus-xhtml-2/ <comment><USER2> Reminds me of a quote: "The nice thing about standards is there are so many to choose from."

There _are_ cool additions to both, and that's the problem. Two sets of standards that set out to accomplish the same goal. Anyhow, there will be some time to kill before browsers (read: IE) start incorporating the best stuff.</comment>


The Hoverboard Life - <AUTHOR> http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=457404184 <comment><AUTHOR> It takes a little while to get to the interesting part of this article, but the hook is that nobody really knows who invented the hoverboard. Manufacturers in China are sharing ideas with each other over beers and just building stuff without worrying about patents, and it all moves so fast that the patent system can't keep up anyway.</comment>


Apple Dev Center outage - <AUTHOR> https://developer.apple.com/devcenter/ios/ <comment><AUTHOR> The entire Apple dev center is down. That makes it impossible to download the iOS or Mac SDKs, including the iOS 7 beta. It's also not possible to provision new devices or update expired certificates. The developer forums are down too, which is somewhat frustrating since that's the only place we can discuss the still-under-NDA iOS 7.

iTunes connect appears to be up.

Apologies for those who posted this earlier. The headline gets more interesting as the outage continues.

<comment><USER2> No forum means no complaints which future developers can look back on...

<comment><USER3> The simpler explanation is that the cluster running all developer-related sites is down. It doesn't always have to be a conspiracy.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER4> Something real, real bad happened down Apple way. The only explanation that passes the sniff test for me is a security breach. A big one. Playstation store big. I mean, it's a huge outage in the middle of the week. Nobody does that if something hasn't gone disastrously wrong. And iffy as Apple's web infrastructure historically has been, it's hard to imagine a system malfunction that they couldn't route around in some kind of reduced capacity in this amount of time.

So. Is Apple gonna drop trou and own up to what the hell happened, or are they gonna get the servers back up and pretend that we saw all this smoke and no fire?

<comment><USER5> Well, apply the standard Apple social introversion: it's down, they're telling you it's down and will be for a while, it will be back up as soon as they can fix it, what exactly is wrong isn't your problem, when it's back up you'll know and it won't matter what happened so long as it gets up and stays up.

<comment><USER4> Well, the App Store is how I make my living, so their developer portal's uptime directly affects me. Especially if it was a security breach.

And the argument that it won't matter as long as it gets up and stays up has already been invalidated by this outage. If they were perfectly in control, this wouldn't have happened. So we know for a fact that they are not 100% in control of the website. (I mean, obviously, 100% control is a mathematical impossibility.) But how much less? What happened? If it was an hour, or even two, I'd let it ride as a cost of running a big-ass data center. But this... warrants an explanation.

<comment> k-mcgrady >> "Well, the App Store is how I make my living, so their developer portal's uptime directly affects me."

How much is this outage affecting you? You can still provision devices etc. through Xcode, documentation's still online. I'm also a full-time iOS developer and hadn't even noticed it had gone down I go to it so infrequently.

<comment><USER5> I need (!) to document a sequence of steps thru a process in the Member Center. Can't do that if I can't get to the Member Center.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> I've had an active developer program account since 2008. While various tools have gone offline now and then, and there are planned shutdowns around the holidays and during keynotes, this incident seems unique.

Wonder what's going on over there. This outage makes the provisioning portal inaccessible. That could mean very real work disruptions, since no new code signing credentials can be made.

<comment><USER7> I've managed to successfully provision new devices and run dev apps on them yesterday using xcode's organizer, so at least there's that.

<comment><USER6> Did you need to do anything special? Keeps timing out when I try to use it.

<comment><USER7> No. I had to add a few new iPads, so I opened the organizer, clicked the 'use for development' button and it was good. It took a little bit for the actual provisioning profile to update but I was able to run the dev app on the device right away.

This was yesterday morning. I haven't tried today, though.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER8> Craig Hockenberry: "Just talked to WWDR on the phone: no ETA."

[https://twitter.com/chockenberry/status/358315230742331393](https://twitter.com/chockenberry/status/358315230742331393)

</comment><comment><USER9> Amusingly (or perhaps frustratingly) their status site is showing all-systems- go: [http://www.apple.com/support/systemstatus/](http://www.apple.com/support/systemstatus/)

<comment><USER10> None of those are within the Developer Center. It's very possible for those to be up and running while dev portal is down.

<comment><USER9> Right, that page doesn't even have the capability of reporting this outage. Kind of makes it a bit unreliable as a status page, you know?

<comment><USER11> :| It doesn't make it unreliable as a status page showing the status of those things it's intended to show the status of.

<comment><USER9> No, of course not. It makes it unreliable as an indicator of the Apple ecosystem's platform status. Which would be fine, were this not the _only_ such status page Apple provides.

I'm saying it's lacking, not broken.

<comment><USER12> The page is meant to track consumer services.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER13> Interesting, it looks like the WebObjects application(s) has actually been undeployed.

I poked around the main developer.apple.com for a bit until I got here: [https://developer.apple.com/programs/start/safari/enroll.php...](https://developer.apple.com/programs/start/safari/enroll.php?t=cm)

Clicking the "Individual" button on the bottom throws up a WebObjects error: [http://i.imgur.com/xcfZ5ip.png](http://i.imgur.com/xcfZ5ip.png) (Yes, that's probably the smallest I've ever made my Safari window. You're welcome, mobile readers)

<comment><USER14> Well that is a bit interesting. The message from AppleConnect (being the auth platform that is behind the"Apple ID") indicates that the "Developer" application has been revoked and is no longer allowed to auth with AppleConnect.

Perhaps there was a security breach?

</comment></comment><comment><USER15> Right in the middle or renewing the our account. I need to activate the new license and, since I can't, people can't download our app from the store. Talking about fail...

<comment><USER16> You waited until the last day?

<comment><USER15> Well it was 2 days before... (I actually did it early but renewed by mistake another account we have)

<comment><USER16> Doh! Been there. But, I renew a month in advance. As soon as I get the reminder because I don't want to deal with issues, like this.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER17> I'm grasping at straws here, but maybe it was a security breach?

<comment><USER18> My first thought also.

<comment><USER19> Why? There's really no reason to think that. Of all of the things that can go wrong - power, equipment, network, etc - you pick 'security breach'... Not impossible.. but not the most likely either.

<comment><USER18> Power, network, etc. have redundancy. Security breach is a show stopper.

<comment><USER20> Except for the AWS EBS outage a couple of years ago which had nothing to do with a security breach.

[http://aws.amazon.com/message/65648/](http://aws.amazon.com/message/65648/)

Cascading catastrophic failures do happen that don't involve security.

<comment><USER18> I'd think that Apple would be happy to tell us it was a simple power/network failure were that the case.

Sudden shutdown of vital service + silence = most likely a security prob.

I'm not saying that's what it is but it seems likely.

<comment><USER21> Silence really doesn't imply anything except that the responsible parties are busy fixing things and that there may not be hands free/allocated to communicate with the outside world.

IMO not communicating with the outside world is a fail, but I've seen delays in this when small teams suddenly get swamped.

<comment><USER22> I'm sure that the PR department is not busy fixing this technical issue.

<comment><USER20> PR isn't the best department to post updates regarding technical issues. The technical people who understand the issue are, and they are possibly busy fixing the problem right now.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER23> Apple has just updated the page stating that memberships due to expire today have been extended and apps will not be removed from the App Store. They have also apologized for it taking "longer than expected"

<comment><USER24> I also just received an email to this effect even though I have already renewed.

Also the iTunes connect mobile app seems to be working still.

<comment><USER25> iTunes connect works fine, just the dev portal is down

</comment></comment></comment><comment> k-mcgrady Is it still possible to provision devices through Xcode while it's down?

The message they've went with is very strange:

"This site is undergoing maintenance for an extended period today."

Normally they give a few weeks warning for maintenance.

<comment><USER26> If it was planned maintenance, it probably would have happened before WWDC and the iOS 7 betas.

<comment> k-mcgrady Why? They do maintenance at different points throughout the year.

<comment><USER26> Wild speculation. But it would make sense to schedule maintenance for a relatively low-traffic period.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER27> I predict the entry of a new phrase into our lexicon

Bad antenna = "You're holding it wrong"

Outage = "Extended Maintenance"

[http://i.imgur.com/14K9ogF.png](http://i.imgur.com/14K9ogF.png)

<comment><USER28> This is typical though. You don't really expect "Holy cow! Something is screwed up!!" from Microsoft, Apple, AT&T, Dell, Ford, etc, do you? Sassy/cute messages like that are the domain of Github and Twitter.

</comment></comment><comment><USER29> Nothing like discovering your recently released app crashes on iOS 7 and being unable to download the SDK to find out why, or fix it.

<comment> k-mcgrady Is that really so urgent? The majority of the people using iOS 7 are developers, understand apps will be buggy under it and wouldn't leave a bad review. I'm sure an extra few hours wait won't make too much difference :)

<comment><USER30> I don't know about that. There's a _huge_ community of non-developers who, for reasons I cannot comprehend, love to put beta OSes on their phones. I'd wager they outnumber legitimate developers using the beta by a hefty margin. And a lot of them don't understand the implications of doing this.

Stories of unjustified bad reviews being left by users like these due to poor behavior on iOS 7 are really common in the community.

<comment><USER31> If you're a non-developer and running a beta OS, you should know what you're getting into.

At the same time, I do feel sorry for devs getting bad reviews because of compatibility issues. I haven't had any myself, but it's probably only a matter of time.

<comment><USER32> I'd think that Apple would prevent someone using a beta OS from ranking apps. Their disclaimer says to run it on equipment dedicated for testing. That would preclude everyday apps, and the need to leave ratings.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER16> I hope it's something good. But, my guess is it won't be anything noticeable. Replacing that horrible Jive forum software would rock as it's awful.

</comment><comment><USER33> Anyone else getting strange emails to Reset Apple ID Password? I received two today

<comment><USER34> I've gotten these twice in the last two weeks.

</comment></comment><comment><USER35> the maintenance page has a new update just now saying this

We'll be back soon. We apologize that maintenance is taking longer than expected. If your program membership was set to expire during this period, it has been extended and your app will remain on the App Store. If you have any other concerns about your account, please contact us.

</comment><comment><USER36> Outage? Or Maintenance? These are two different things.

<comment><USER37> I'm told this was scheduled.

<comment><USER38> It's hard to believe that something this long would have been scheduled but that they wouldn't have told anyone about it.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER39> I find it curious no apple rep is here, commenting on this post.

<comment><USER40> Really? When have you ever seen Apple reach out to the outside tech community, ever?

<comment><USER41> Every now and again an Apple person will pop up on the Xcode mailing list to tell people to submit a bug report on Radar. They sometimes also reassure all that, yes, despite all evidence to the contrary, bug reports DO get read - though I note that they are always extremely careful to promise no more than that.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER42> Finally someone has chimed in on this. I've been trying to update my provisioning profile since yesterday.

</comment><comment><USER43> Not sure where you got 28 hours (35 mins ago) from when it hasn't been even 27 hours yet (at this moment).

<comment><USER16> I got it... Took a flight from a MDT city to an EDT city and forgot to set their watch.

</comment></comment><comment><USER44> Apple's Developer Center Offline for 32 Hours; Compromised ? Details : [http://thehackernews.com/2013/07/apples-developer-center- off...](http://thehackernews.com/2013/07/apples-developer-center-offline- for-32.html)

</comment><comment><USER45> It's interesting I was trying to download xcode commandline tools for setting up my new mac, the website was down but __you can still download it in xcode download panel __. (assuming you already have xcode installed).

</comment><comment><USER46> It's been down at least since yesterday afternoon:

[https://twitter.com/Joe_Wegner/status/357956388833599488](https://twitter.com/Joe_Wegner/status/357956388833599488)

<comment><USER43> It's been down since Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:26:42 +0000. [https://twitter.com/iOS_DevCenter/status/357869041005760512](https://twitter.com/iOS_DevCenter/status/357869041005760512)

</comment></comment><comment><USER47> [https://twitter.com/search?q=apple%20password%20reset&src=ty...](https://twitter.com/search?q=apple%20password%20reset&src=typd&mode=realtime)

</comment><comment><USER48> The WWDC vids are in an app this year, not on iTunesU. Te an phones home to validate that you are a developer. It too is inaccessible now since dev center is down is down.

</comment><comment><USER49> Just when you need to send an adhoc build.....

<comment><USER50> Check out Nomad, it's by Mattt (of AFNetworking fame). [http://nomad- cli.com/](http://nomad-cli.com/)

<comment><USER51> This uses web scraping of the developer portal behind the scenes, and as a result the Cupertino module is unusable during this outage.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER52> This is a major bummer. I wanted to push out some more TestFlight builds yesterday and have been in limbo ever since.

</comment><comment><USER53> this is screwed up too [http://devimages.apple.com/](http://devimages.apple.com/)

<comment><USER43> It has always been.

</comment></comment><comment><USER54> anonymous has been hitting targets listed in Prism presentation of late - could be one of the anonymous' casualties?

<comment><USER55> Even if that were true one would think that with all the resources Apple has they would be able to handle a DDOS. It would be nice if this was intentional but sadly judging by how long its been thats very unlikely so DDOS is possible.

</comment></comment><comment><USER56> Forums are now down as well.

<comment><USER12> Forums were down since yesterday for at least 24 hours as well.

<comment><USER55> I was able to access them for quite a while even long enough to read complaints about the outage. Wonder if they just turned them off to prevent all the would be posts about the downtime

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER57> Anyone have an Xcode 5 dmg?

<comment><USER42> I do, but how can I be so sure you're a AAPL developer :).

<comment><USER57> I work at Sincerely :0) I'm the only one with iOS7 on my phone but need to build to it right now and don't have xcode 5 :/ I suppose I could wait

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER58> its back for me

[edit] nvm, that was the marketing developer site.

</comment><comment><USER59> It's working now: [https://developer.apple.com/](https://developer.apple.com/)

<comment><USER60> lol no [https://developer.apple.com/membercenter](https://developer.apple.com/membercenter)

</comment></comment><comment><USER31> Wait, does this mean the entire Cloud is down? I can still access Google and Amazon.

<comment><USER61> Correct. The entire cloud, aka internet, is down. The only reason you can access Google and Amazon is because of the latent electricity in their data centers' cabling. It's just a matter of time before they go dark too. Good luck.</comment></comment>


Show HN: Work for Pie - A portfolio for Developers  - <AUTHOR> http://workforpie.com/ Work for Pie provides a way for developers to create a profile that highlights their skills. You can connect your Github and Bitbucket accounts as well as your Stackoverflow and Hacker News Accounts, which will be used create a Score. <comment><USER2> Cool site, but how does it help me 'stand out' more than my own site does? Also, it's not very clear from the homepage what the pie charts are and what a score is indicative of. After reading the blog post it seems like that score is pulled from the sites you add to your account, but you might want to make that clear from the homepage.

<comment><AUTHOR> Thanks for the feedback. We've go some info on where the score comes from and what it means, but we haven't published that yet (shame on us!).

And the goal with "standing out" is that your Work for Pie profile will be automatically updated as you participate in the HN, Stackoverflow communities and as you publish code. You _may_ be doing this on your personal site, you may not. We want to provide a way to aggregate that info easily.

So, what would make this more compelling for you?

<comment><USER2> I don't use any of the services you pull info from, so it's not much use to me but it looks quite good. If i did use SO/Github/Bitbucket i'd definitely give this a try.

<comment><AUTHOR> You _do_ use one of the services, we pull info from (HN) ;)

Thanks for the feedback, though. If you ever do start using the other sites, please consider signing up on workforpie to it a spin.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER3> I have met the founders in person here in Memphis and I've talked with them a good bit about their idea. They are both cool guys and one of them (@bkmontgomery) is working on setting up a Python users' group here in Memphis sometime in the next month.

Seeing some names from the Django community on the "leaderboard" helps give a feel for the use of the site.

It's a bit of an MVP now, obviously any advice would be helpful.</comment>


Things you may have missed during Apple's event - <AUTHOR> https://dmitriid.com/blog/2019/03/things-you-missed-apple-event/ <comment><USER2> Chill out and tune into WWDC to get your fix</comment>


The Paved PaaS To NodeJS Microservices at Netflix [video] - <AUTHOR> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcNqfvMeWow <comment><USER2> It looks like they are moving away from Java. Can anyone from Netflix comment on why javascript was the language of choice for the migration?

<comment><USER3> So from a podcast I listened to from a few years ago of this same guy in software engineering daily, their base services were still in java, while the services that were closer to the user experience were being transitioned to nodejs. He even said that probably completely new back-end services would still be done in Java if they were not really tied to the UX. I don't know if this is still true today though.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> It is a good choice for most of the services they have. Probably same for most of the companies that are serving something on internet.

\- Node performs very well. \- It is scalable for web. \- It is supported everywhere and it is really easy to learn and use. \- You embrace one programming language among your developers that can be used for Backend, Frontend, and Native apps. \- ES6 and Node8 already made significant improvements to the syntax and langauge. \- It has a rich open source ecosystem and resources (from Facebook, Google...). \- Tooling is great! \- Fits very well for new techniques and models (Microservices, Serverless, and etc) \- It is easy to learn how to write a maintainable code in Node.

so why not?

There are certain things that you will find a good reason to build them with something else (Java, Go, Python, Erlang, etc). But Node is a perfect choice for majority of services that a web company is building today.

</comment><comment><USER5> We've updated the link from [https://www.reddit.com/r/node/comments/8i8jzq/netflix_migrat...](https://www.reddit.com/r/node/comments/8i8jzq/netflix_migrating_12_of_their_api_to_nodejs/), which points to this.

</comment><comment><USER6> You should have linked to the video not your empty Reddit thread.</comment>


Benefits of a Lifestyle Business - <AUTHOR> https://bugfender.com/blog/why-a-lifestyle-business-beats-a-startup/ <comment><USER2> Sure! Lifestyle businesses are great, and so is the whole digital nomad thing (I spent all of 2016 and a good chunk of 2015 traveling around the world).

There are a ton of upsides but I wouldn't go back to it full time. For one, it's surprising how few of the digital nomad types are really that interesting, and while integrating with local populations is fun, you'll still find yourself missing the familiarity of people from your own culture (or similar, Western cultures, assuming you're a Euro or American)

Once you get used to life on the road it's grand. Still, nomad nests like Chiang Mai are insipid and full of scores of people hustling their drop ship schemes. More power to them, but it's just not my vibe.

I dunno. Go nuts, travel, see a bunch of shit, just don't assume the beach is going to be as stimulating as the (very likely) metro urban environment you're living in now.

<comment><USER3> Life on the road was not for me. Sure I loved seeing the world but ....

1\. Always having to make plans for the next place to sleep was stressful for me. I'd arrive at some city and have to start planning the next city else I'd be homeless once my hotel/apartment term expired. I started booking longer (4 weeks, 6 weeks, more) but even then just the fact that I have a place I don't have to think about is less stressful for me.

2\. No hangout buddy or really close friends. Some people are great at making new friends and I did make a few in certain cities but I'm at least a little introverted and felt pretty lonely quite often.

3\. There only so much tourism I can take. At some point it just got boring seeing yet another old church, yet another museum, etc. Some recent book claimed you should take several shorter vacations than fewer but longer ones. They recommended no more than a week at a time.

4\. Not being able to buy/own anything. That might appeal to some but not to others, it means no shopping, something that many people enjoy while traveling. It also means no PS4, no Vive/Oculus, no gaming rig, no tools, no food supplies. Sure if I rented an apartment I could go buy a few things to cook but when I have a permanent residence I have tons of utensils and spices and other things in my kitchen that I just don't have the time to gather in a temporary place. Similarly I had drawers or closets full of parts and tools, something I didn't have digital nomadding.

Of course that's all just me. I've met others who really enjoy that lifestyle. Good for them!

<comment><USER4> Regarding 4, did you ever consider trying a gaming laptop? Razer is coming out with some pretty insane builds at _very_ small form factors.

As for tools, yea that was always a bummer. Some cities have hacker barns or whatever but it really depends on where you are. As always, I recommend digital nomads that like buildin shit to check out Taipei, the maker crowd is HUGE there (relatively).

<comment><USER5> As an expat(who doesn't know how long until I might move again) it's not just about gaming IMO.

Anything you buy is just more weight to move to the next place. If you enjoy technology and novelty it hurts, think about all interesting that can come out of IoT, you can't just get a new thermostat or put a smart mirror in a place you don't own and need landlord approval.

It gets worse if you are living as a hardcore nomad moving from place to place within a few months, you need to have a limited supply of clothes, shoes and other similar things.

<comment><USER4> Funny though, that's exactly what attracts me to the lifestyle :) I love the aggressive minimalism.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> Your chosen lifestyle doesn't have to involve sea voyages in Southeast Asia or weeklong ski excursions. It could also be living in a medium-sized town in Flyover Country, U.S.A., working 40 hour weeks on interesting problems and spending lots of time with your spouse and children. If you've ever looked around at your Logan's Run coworkers and wondered what happens when you turn 30, here's one of your answers.

<comment><USER7> I can't tell if this is sarcasm - you realize this is just "median American lifestyle," right?

The idea that you can afford a house and a boat and time with your kids on a single upper middle class income in, say, Missouri is called "normal" outside of SF/NYC.

<comment><USER8> Does that really exist still? Can you have a house, a life and kids on one income? It seems to have vanished in the U.K.

<comment><USER9> My family lives in Portland, OR, which isn't nearly as expensive as (say) SF or NYC but has seen significant housing cost increases in the last 5-10 years. My wife works as a transportation consultant, which is a solidly white- collar/"knowledge" gig but pays far below what most tech gigs do. We could probably afford our essential costs (mortgage, taxes, car, insurance, etc.) on her income but we wouldn't have been able to buy a house here without the down payment that my technical work allowed us to pay, or the cash gift her parents gave us for our first (USDA-backed, 3.5%-down) home purchase.

My strong feeling is that most places with a robust employment market price most single-income households out b/c the expectation is now that you at _least_ have two earners. Kids take another chunk out of your "competitiveness" because of childcare, cost-of-living, and increased demands on your time (making it harder to really "excel" at work).

<comment><USER8> I have to agree - I was reading Ha-Joon Chang who was saying this is why salaries have been flat since the 70s - basically household incomes have grown as one income became two. And of course the washing machine and other household goods have enabled so much time saving that women could go out to work

But it does not quite balance out - households rarely have two good incomes, and the time costs still hurt.

Thanks

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER10> Lifestyle business beats a startup, until it doesn't. I'm the example. Ran a category leading website for years until I was demolished by a fully focused bad ass team and thrown out of my leadership position. Ultimately, I was forced to sell out at a much lower valuation than I'd have if I were totally focused. It could vary on niche and industry. But one can't generalize it one way or the other. If you have a great position in a big sector and you don't go for the kill, someone else will and your lifestyle business would be likely chewed up by competition. If it's a business with an intrinsic moat(think a retail store in small tourist town), it's likely to sustain. Take frequent breaks while running a bad ass startup, but don't for a while think that you can let the ball drop.

<comment><USER11> I think lifestyle businesses (like Mobile Jazz) should be more service focused (although they seem to have a few products). That way you get work, do it and get paid. No hassle of reaching the top and maintaining the lead.

<comment><USER12> +1 this is exactly how we did it. Not that any of that was planned, but it worked out quite well for us. Although now we're struggling with that every business is struggling that makes the switch from services to products: the need to put more resources on the product to facilitate growth while the service clients also have their needs. But we're getting there, step by step. The good thing about being a profitable lifestyle business is that we're in no rush.

<comment><USER11> Your new products seem to be SaaS applications. How do you guys plan to support the operations on a day to day basis? Will there be rotating rosters for who needs to provide devops support for a given week/month? Because I presume that would require reliable internet wherever you're working from at that time.

<comment><USER13> I'm one of the rosters that does devops for the SaaS products. What's important is to plan ahead any time you will be off so any co-worker can be there when you are not there. It's very strange that all devops guys are out at the same time. In case of a retreat we always look for reliable internet connection and we always bring our computers with us.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER14> Is there some reason that people keep making the case for creating a standard business that supports one or two people? These types of posts have been pretty consistent over the years: "Take control of your life with a small business" "You don't need to make a massive company to be happy" etc...

I never see articles that encourage: "Here's why you should dedicate your life to starting a company and try to dominate an industry." It's like these posts are fighting against a boogeyman that isn't there.

I think 99% of all small businesses are "lifestyle businesses" where the founders aren't trying to build a market dominating billion dollar company. So who are these articles target to?

Is it simply the amount of press that surrounds VC and hyperscale companies that these folks are rejecting? I don't think any VC or founder has ever claimed that the only way to be happy/make money/do good is by trying to create a massive market dominating company.

<comment><USER15> Small businesses are usually the norm. But HackerNews, tech, the whole Bay Area is head-over-heels for the growth business, the make-it-rich-quick business, so the small lifestyle business concept is the outsider in this world.

<comment><USER14> _the whole Bay Area is head-over-heels for the growth business_

Right, that's it's uniquely identifying characteristic. Literally that's why people come to SV, do to that kind of business. It's self selection. If you come to the valley you are trying to build/join an insane rocket ship. I mean that's what VC and the last 30 years SV is all about.

 _so the small lifestyle business concept is the outsider in this world._

Ok, and? Is there some lack of knowledge that there are businesses that aren't hyperscale? I can't imagine.

<comment><USER16> Because Silicon Valley is so associated with tech, it's easy to forget there are tech businesses that aren't head-over-heels for the growth business. Similar to video games, you forget its possible to have a work/life balance because so many video game companies don't have it.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER17> Can we please stop calling regular businesses "lifestyle business", like it's some hobby for people who don't want to work in a " real" startup?!

<comment><USER18> x2.

Pretty much every blue collar tradesman runs a "lifestyle business" or "freelances"

<comment><USER19> I don't think you'll make it very long if you're trying to cut, polish, and install granite countertops from your sailboat in Micronesia. Blue collar trade businesses aren't conducive to that sort of lifestyle.

There's an inherent advantage to tech work in that it can be done remotely and asynchronously. This gives you the freedom of choosing almost any lifestyle you want.

At least that's what I imagine as the difference between a "lifestyle" and small business.

<comment><USER18> It's pretty common to live out of a camper and travel seasonally or between jobs. Sure you're not sipping margaritas on a beach but you're fairly free to take on as much or little work as you want.

People that own their own small businesses (other than an LLC for legal reasons) don't generally do this because you need to stay where your customers are but I know electricians, HVAC guys, plumbers and carpenters who will get a job working on something (e.g. HVAC for a factory) for a few months, park their trailer local to that job, line up another job before that one's up and possibly include time for a week of sightseeing and vacation in-between.

<comment><USER20> If those guys are traveling seasonally or between jobs, it's because they're following the work or out of work. They are not choosing this lifestyle, they are entrapped in it. Yes, if they end up driving by the beach or a national park on the way to the next job they will stop and enjoy but, not the same thing at all. The term lifestyle business does imply something different, more like the folks in the article, or Tim Ferris, or something whether you like the term or not.

<comment><USER21> There are definitely people who string together outdoor guiding, ski instruction, scuba instruction, etc. etc. gigs. I'm not sure if that really constitutes a "lifestyle business" though. More an itinerant lifestyle.

On the other hand, they guy who owns the scuba shop and uses the (hopeful) profits to be a ski bum for the winter probably does have a lifestyle business if that's his thing.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER22> From someone who's done both, they are not comparable, directly, but they have a complementary relation: The DN (digital nomad) life is absolutely an engine for the kind of creative and free thinking that engenders killer startup ideas. Startups are "the thing" you want to commit your life to, the world- changing vision that you're ready to sacrifice for; the DN/ lifestyle business/ remote gigs mode is the fertile ground, for when you lack strength of vision, you don't know what you want right now, so you slow down, gain experience, and grow your thinking.

Only ever doing one in your life without the other is unenviable, and makes it hard to fully enjoy and appreciate, or even excel at, whichever one you've chosen.

</comment><comment><USER23> "A good lifestyle business could even be turned into a multi-million dollar company, if that's what you want.": I've stopped reading there, I don't understand how articles that empty can arrive on top of HN. These questions (where to work? On what? How much?) get way better answers in "Ask HN" threads, articles coming from nowhere with a topbar selling me something are really not making me dream anymore.

<comment><USER12> Genuine question: how do you know the article is empty if you haven't even read 20% of it?

<comment><USER23> The sentence I mentioned made me wonder if anything in the 20% I've read taught me something, I then looked at the top of my screen and saw the discount, that's when I decided to go back in this thread.

<comment><USER12> Interesting point. We actually had set up the HN discount long time ago for the whole site. But I do get your point that it makes this look a bit scammy. Thanks for answering and pointing this out.

<comment><USER23> I would suggest adding the discount at the bottom of the article so that you know that the people using it are already kind of engaged. The sentence was a deal breaker for me as I was on my phone thus in a context pushing for snacking content instead of going further.

<comment><USER24> That doesn't seem like an effective marketing strategy.

If they moved their coupon code, would that change the content of their article? Or would it just set you at ease temporarily because you are jaded (rightfully so)?

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER25> This digital nomad thing just looks hellish to me. Maybe I'm getting old.

Can't imagine being somewhere nice but glued to a laptop, or getting anything useful done without reliable wifi etc, or being part of a team where the boss has gone on holiday but still showing up in slack etc.

I'd hate to feel like I wasn't part of the team for not getting our kids together or not wanting to holiday or spend a day off with colleagues. I'm not impressed by instagram or medium posts from perfect looking beaches giving business advice.

Not sure when a lifestyle business went from being a business that fits around your lifestyle to making the appearance of living an idealised lifestyle everybody else's business.

<comment><USER26> Part of the day working. Part of the day playing. Same as anywhere else, except you are doing it in amazing new places either every week, or once a month. Don't knock it til you try it.

<comment><USER27> Not everyone enjoys traveling, many people hate it.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER28> I... I feel I can't believe the company has 1) top salary, 2) top benefits 3) unlimited travel 4) work remote 5) top enterprise clients 6) small teams 7) work as much as you want?

either someone is ridiculous at managing at all of this (kudos!) or something is slipping somewhere. Even in custom-dev it can be cutthroat, especially with large-scale projects and demanding clients.

<comment><USER29> I don't see what's so unbelievable about it? You can execute really quickly if you have empowered teams and no bureaucracy slowing you down.

<comment><USER28> at some point, its a cost equation. top of salary, benefits, inconsistent working hours = potentially unreliable delivery to clients // not complex solutions. custom dev isn't that groundbreaking, its just a game of balancing levers at play. Something always slips, its a fact of the game. This just seems too good to be true (though if it is, happy for them!)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER30> Meh, kind of a generic article about how you should prioritize lifestyle over building a startup. I guess this is nothing new to me, I did the digital nomad thing with Remote Year for a year and change, and now I'm still working remotely in Austin, TX.

I do miss the constant travel, there is always something coming up to look forward to. When you are in one place, not constantly traveling, you have to make your own fun. Which is why I've taken up other things like riding motorcycles, brewing beer, and speaking at my local Python meetup.

All that year I was working full time as a Python Developer while traveling constantly. Every weekend was an epic adventure. It's an amazing lifestyle if you can pull it off, but its not for everyone can definitely will wear on you after a while.

</comment><comment><USER31> I own a lifestyle business and I work at a startup as the founding engineer, but I work remotely.

When you work remotely, you can treat both your lifestyle business and your gig the same, insofar as you have the freedom to take an hour off your gig to do some calls for your lifestyle business in the middle of the day, or you can test particular technologies on your lifestyle business before you commit to it in your startup.

I find them both to be healthily married.

I still have the freedom to hang out with my kid at lunch, or work from a far away place, while at the same time achieving my career goals and attaining financial independence.

</comment><comment><USER32> Give me a break. He is playing fast and loose with terminology and it is disingenuous because he is twisting _lifestyle business_ to be whatever he wants it to mean while dissing _startups_ and not giving that term the same flexibility to be "anything that grows fast, even if it doesn't eat the CEO's life."

I hate the term _lifestyle business_ and articles like this one are part of why. I have given my POV previously here:

[http://micheleincalifornia.blogspot.com/2014/03/i-love- lucy-...](http://micheleincalifornia.blogspot.com/2014/03/i-love-lucy- lifestyle-business-that.html)

My recollection is that Plenty of Fish was started by one guy who never took VC money, so he got to keep all the money when he sold for millions. Articles like this don't mention examples like that when justifying their biased opinion that "lifestyle business" = good and "startup" = bad. (In part because of the lack of VC money, I assume that Plenty of Fish was not a pressure cooker. Upon rereading my comment, that assumption does not seem clear.)

</comment><comment><USER33> A lifestyle business seems fundamentally incompatible with a team oriented business. Let's assume the goal of a "lifestyle" business by a single founder is to automate all operations such that little to no work is required on the part of that founder.

Ok, that's all well and good. But some of that "automation" will inevitably be delegation to the founder's employees. So the employees have to work. The founder doesn't have to work. How can the founder possibly show good leadership and build a strong team if his goal is to work as little as possible?

As a founder, you are responsible for the well being of your employees. That's why they're employees, not independent contractors. If you're working four hours a week with a team of employees, there is a high chance you're shirking some responsibility toward them.

And if you decide to be a full time boss, then you're still building more than a business. You're building a team that you are responsible for. That is, you "answer" to other people - your employees. At this point, the advantages of a lifestyle business over VC funded business ("low hours," "not beholden to anyone") start to lose their luster.

If you're interested in building a team, and a lasting enterprise, then it becomes more logical to just take some seed funding so you can safely pay your employees and ensure an early growth trajectory. Whereas if you're only interested in a totally automated business to provide you and your family a stable income, then you should avoid hiring employees because you'll just end up beholden to them.

Thus the ideas of a "fully automated lifestyle business" and a "lifestyle business with a strong team" seem at odds with each other.

<comment><USER5> That's the part I don't get, he argues for a lifestyle business being better than a startup and advertises travel and hobbies.

So the premise seems very clear, you can earn enough money with a lifestyle business to enjoy life without having to aim for unicorn-hopeful-hockey-stick- growth.

I only read about the money, the hours, and the hobbies, but what happened to you know, building a business to address an issue and solve a problem? Help people?

Even so, the term lifestyle business sounds to me like a smaller workload sustainable living of entrepreneurial minded individuals regardless of what their employees think so you can travel to white sand beaches while the cashflow continues, but some people have fulfillment in building a business, creating a workplace, a culture where others will thrive and and enjoy life themselves.

</comment></comment><comment><USER34> Site seems to be down. Here's the cached article: [http://archive.is/p5ZLR](http://archive.is/p5ZLR)

<comment><USER35> It's back online again.

</comment></comment><comment><USER36> At a certain point, this blog post seemed mostly about the great traveling opportunities that this company offers its employees. That's' neat, for employees who are kid-free. But as a developer married to developer... with 2 kids under the age of three... I can tell you that those work retreats abroad actually become pretty challenging for families. At a certain point.. people want to have kids. I would find a company who made their employee perks more about realistically supporting families far more appealing.

<comment><USER35> I'm a team member of the company and it's true that it's challenging to organize this kind of retreats for families but we've done it a couple of times and we're currently organizing one in the Caribbean and looking into ways to integrate 2 of our colleagues that have recently had or will soon have kids, e.g. hiring a full time Au Pair.

Also, we organize two types of events. Remote offices where the focus is on working from a remote place (Thailand, Cape Town) but also retreats (Ski trip) where the focus is on team building and there's little work. It's always easier for people with families to integrate in the second.

<comment><USER36> That's awesome about the au pairs! Good one.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER37> Lifestyle businesses eventually give you more of what you really want, freedom.

VC backed startups seem to just give you a new set of bosses.

</comment><comment><USER38> I think what's important here is that we each have to know what our lifestyle aspirations are.

For some folks, a lifestyle business is better suited for them as they are looking to get more time out of their lives to do other things.

For others, a startup might be better because they have more control over whatever product/service they are providing.

<comment><USER12> Totally agree. It's a very personal thing. For us at Mobile Jazz it means to work on technical challenges, while at the same time working on "startup-like products" (e.g. Bugfender or Localname), while not having any pressure from investors and as you said spending also more time on other things in life.

This probably excludes a lot of product types that are highly competitive or time critical, but there's still a lot left to work on, especially niche products. In our case that niche are developer tools, which all came up organically as we built our own developer tools for ourselves anyway.

<comment><USER38> I'm glad you brought up the point about investors as I don't think the implications of taking money from investors gets talked about a lot. As you pointed out, more pressure to deliver and really should be used for pouring gasoline on fire instead of starting the fire itself though granted I know that seed money is required to get things going sometimes.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER12> Just in case people are more interested in the details of the business we run, Indie Hackers recently ran an interview with us [https://www.indiehackers.com/businesses/bugfender](https://www.indiehackers.com/businesses/bugfender)

<comment><USER39> Great interview. Do you have any text or interview about MobileJazz?

<comment><USER12> We do, have a look here: [https://mobilejazz.com/blog/our-ceo-stefan-klumpps- interview...](https://mobilejazz.com/blog/our-ceo-stefan-klumpps-interview- with-happy-melly/)

<comment><USER39> tks

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER40> I'm someone who is thinking of changing carriers at 30 to become a developer. I love the idea of cutting out bureaucracy and office politics and be paid decently. I'd love any thoughts and advice from more experienced people about what I should do in the next 12-24 months.

<comment><USER41> > cutting out bureaucracy and office politics

Not trying to demotivate you, but that's just not gonna happen. I'm a developer who works on 'consultancy' basis. I've worked in multiple organizations and all of them have bureaucracy and office politics. As a developer it might sometimes feel even worse, because you're supposed to be the technical guy and not meddle with business, but you're still impacted by all the shit that's going on.

Unless you manage to get a job at a well funded, hardly managed, early stage startup in the burn phase, it'll be like many other jobs. And even if you do get to work in a startup like that, you'll see that there are also downsides to it.

My advice; first see if you actually like programming and have at least some feeling for the analytical thinking required to be able to do it. Do this after work and during weekends. Pick any language and follow an online course start to end. Then build something you think of yourself, anything, it can be useless and stupid, but it should be yours. You'll find out whether you like it while doing it. If you don't, then don't switch jobs.

<comment><USER42> Yes there is client politics but the difference is you don't need to buy into it emotionally.

<comment><USER43> If you are emotionally invested in the quality of your work and the product gets nerfed by some C-level executive power play, it can be just as demoralizing. This is not at all unusual in my experience.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER44> The people who I've seen who have the best lifestyle have big chunks of work followed by big chunks of time off.

They tended to work 6-12 month contracts followed by 3-6 months off. This works great in a good economy, when it turns sour its more difficult.

The other happy group worked in mines or oil rigs on a month on month off schedule. They got paid tax free and had 6 month long vacations a year to travel.

I think I prefer those options to working while travelling.

<comment><USER45> To be clear, they didn't actually get paid 'tax free' (unless they have extraordinarily unique circumstances). They just got paid under the table.

<comment><USER46> Foreign workers in gulf states are normally paid tax free I believe.

<comment><USER45> Ah, but many countries (including the US) expect their citizens to report your income regardless of source. If you don't, it isn't really tax-free, just 'not reported'

<comment><USER46> I believe the US is nearly the only country that taxes its citizens when they are working abroad. China too I think.

Certainly it doesn't happen in Europe.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER47> Also this doesn't have to be an either/or decision that you have to make on Day 1. We started our business as a lifestyle business and as it got traction have decided to pursue a startup approach. On track to do $10M+ revenue this year :)

</comment><comment><USER48> I'm all for lifestyle businesses and side hustles. But some ideas really do require a lot of up-front capital. It's hard to imagine Tesla, SpaceX, Boom, or Nest succeeding as lifestyle businesses.

<comment><USER29> I don't think anyone is claiming Tesla, SpaceX, Boom or Nest could have been built this way?

<comment><USER48> Author's title is "Why A Lifestyle Business Beats a Startup" which implies that no one should be pursuing a VC-backed startup, in favor of lifestyle businesses. That would leave all of these (subjectively) great ideas by the wayside.

<comment><USER29> I agree the title could be better. I don't think (or at least I hope) the author isn't speaking in absolutes though. Obviously, there are places for both styles of business.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER49> Has "lifestyle" changed its meaning? It seems to mean now that if you're "focusing on lifestyle" you are kayaking on the Pacific Ocean.

<comment><USER12> I guess it means whatever is important to you: for some it means going surfing in the morning, for others skiing in the afternoon and for some it is as simple as spending more time with your friends and family.

</comment></comment><comment><USER50> I have grown both a lifestyle business and a startup and I still don't know which I prefer. I mean, it's nice to have some flexibility, but it's also nice to find the capital that helps propel your business faster. It really depends on the business, the person, and what you'd like to get out of the venture. At the end of the day it's a preference. I don't think one beats the other.

</comment><comment><USER51> What does 'a lifestyle business' mean, anyway?

<comment><USER12> Author here. For us it means optimizing for happiness instead of profit. More practically speaking what we do is ensuring everyone has a sufficient base salary, but then also participates in a quarterly bonus program (profit sharing). But the key is actually that everyone can work from wherever they want and as much as they want (as long as it is properly planned in advance). And then on top of that we organize fun retreats like spending a month in Cape Town or Martinique, or going skiing together in Austria or just a few days ago we went together to the Italian Alps for a week of hiking.

So this is what lifestyle business means for us: having a good time with great people.

<comment><USER52> how do you deal with kids/school? Do you take your kids along with you?

<comment><USER12> I personally do not have kids yet, but some of our employees have kids and even newborn babies. One of them just came back from a trip to Norway. It's all doable and probably less of a problem than people think :-)

<comment><USER53> I think they were asking you what do the parents in your organization do on some of these longer outings - do they come and bring their kids, come without their families, or stay home?

<comment><USER12> Got it! So I'd stay we've two groups of people in the company: those that like the freedom to spend it at home and those that like the freedom to go traveling. To answer your question: the retreats we offer are voluntary so not everyone joins. But we do have a group of people who are strong travelers and also having kids now and they just take them with them. This is however quite now to us and we're planning a trip to Martinique where we are considering hiring a nanny as well.

<comment><USER53> That's awesome. I think you're handling that really well. I suspect a lot of US-based startups use these things as a screening tool to not hire too many people with families/outside obligations. It's a perk on paper, but you're a "bad culture fit" if you can't do weekly happy hour or a week long retreat because you want to see your kids.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER54> Many comments in here make the dialogue feel like a roiling cauldron of over- work and burn-out. Whether you're nomadic, working in a start-up, working at a mega-corp, working at the the grocery store, balance in life is crucial.

In knowledge work, how can one really spend more than 40 hours producing quality output? It becomes an unhealthy compulsion to sate a hyper-stimulated existence instead of a strategy for creation. Whichever way you choose to work, focus on health and ample rest. The rest will take care of itself.

</comment><comment><USER55> You could pretty much have the lifestyle you want wherever you are. You don't need to go anywhere really, unless you want to be snorkelling or scuba diving everyday

Most days you just want to eat well, exercise, meditate, do a good job, try'n make some money, spend time with family, and sleep well. The odd day you do feel adventurous just take off on your motorcycle or hop on a plane.

No great scenic view will make your life automatically better. The scenic view in itself is only benefit there is. That I have to agree!

</comment><comment><USER56> I am getting a strong cognitive dissonance by the loads of people here who conflate "lifestyle business" with "digital nomad". They are NOTHING alike.

Lifestyle business in this sense is a traditional business with minimal / zero external investment, no pressure from greedy VCs and people who have no lives and thus live in the office. A business where you can take a break at any time.

Why do people here equate this with people who travel around the world with a smartphone, clothes and some food?

</comment><comment><USER57> I've been working in tech for the last 10 years. I've come to the point that I need to enjoy my life and not sit in an office 10 hours a day, coding for someone else's vision.

So I started a brand ( [https://lasttrystuff.com](https://lasttrystuff.com) ) of my own so I can enjoy an active lifestyle while adventuring. It doesn't quite pay as much, but the trade offs are immensely satisfying.

</comment><comment><USER58> One thing that is hard to have in a lifestyle business, especially one that is combined with constant travel, is innovation. A lot of people do startups because they want to create something radically new and impossibly ambitious, something that doesn't currently. If that is what drives you then doing web dev consulting will not be very exciting, even if you do it from a beach in Bali.

</comment><comment><USER59> How does the business case of such a "lifestyle business" look, i.e. the numbers? I'm not sure whether operating out of a sailing boat is affordable for small companies and the $6500 MRR of bugfender can't be covering it...

<comment><USER12> Bugfender is part of Mobile Jazz, a service company that we've built over the past 5 years running with a 20 people team. Our products (e.g. Bugfender, Localname, etc.) are a more recent endeavor, although growing quickly as well and currently cover 10% of our overall revenue.

</comment></comment><comment><USER60> Not sure I'd agree with the OP's definition of Lifestyle Business, given he's operating a service company with employees, payroll, clients, and sales quotas.

That's no less hectic than a start-up.

</comment><comment><USER61> Sounds great if you want to optimize for your personal happiness. But not a feasible way to really make an impact on the world. The world needs more of the latter IMHO.

</comment><comment><USER62> Why does the author think one has to be happy the way he does? Lifestyle business beats a startup for some and the opposite is true for others.

<comment><USER12> Author here. The author doesn't think that for everyone. But for himself and the people working with him :-) But I do get your point.

</comment></comment><comment><USER63> What is a Lifestyle business? I read through the first 50% of the article and didn't see that term defined anywhere.

</comment><comment><USER64> The holy grail is to automate, once done you'll be really free to enjoy life and give back to humanity

</comment><comment><USER65> Whoops... Did HN Crash their site?

<comment><USER12> Author here. Sorry for that. We didn't expect this to go #1 on HN. We're working on scaling up this small machine hosting our blog and also providing an alternative source as a backup.

<comment><USER66> Must be fresh if google hasn't even crawled it.</comment></comment></comment>


Clone a voice in 5 seconds to generate arbitrary speech in real time - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/CorentinJ/Real-Time-Voice-Cloning <comment><USER2> How does output compare to Mozilla TTS or Google's new customizable TTS: [https://sample-efficient-adaptive-tts.github.io/demo/](https://sample- efficient-adaptive-tts.github.io/demo/)

The latter requires a few minutes of audio to tune it to clone a voice.

<comment><USER3> I'd say the 10 second trained clips towards the bottom sound much better than the clips from the YouTube video of this project.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> Ironically demo YT clip is "relative_loudness": "-17.739dB", aka cant hear it. Not great for someone doing sound stuff.</comment>


Tech Book Face Off: The Edward Tufte Trilogy - <AUTHOR> http://sam-koblenski.blogspot.com/2015/05/tech-book-face-off-envisioning.html

<comment><USER2> Semiology of Graphics by Jacques Bertin is intense, thorough, and useful if you have the stamina for it.</comment>


PowerShell pull request – initialsession: remove curl and wget aliases - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/pull/1901 <comment><USER2> I'm glad that the inventor of Windows PowerShell addressed this issue in a positive way, and asked one of the PowerShell-RFC committee members to start the RFC to fix this.

<comment><USER3> On the other hand, we have the community members who are being very toxic. Frankly, I suspect they set out with the singular goal of shouting "gotcha" when the powershell team didn't immediately incorporate their breaking changes. (Disclaimer: I'm an engineer at Microsoft, but not for powershell, and the views here are my own.)</comment></comment>


Show HN: ValueStream: Modeling Software Delivery as a Distributed Trace - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/ImpactInsights/valuestream <comment><AUTHOR> Author here, would love to hear your thoughts and feedback. Are there any specific features that you'd like to see? Would you consider using a tool like this? What features would be required for you to do so?

I appreciate your time and Thank you

Danny

\- [https://medium.com/@dm03514/valuestream-devops-metrics- obser...](https://medium.com/@dm03514/valuestream-devops-metrics-observing- delivery-across-multiple-systems-7ae76a6e8deb)

\- [https://medium.com/dm03514-tech-blog/debugging-devops- using-...](https://medium.com/dm03514-tech-blog/debugging-devops-using- valuestream-and-lightstep-e1f8e07f4eab)</comment>


Remove my password from lists so hackers won't be able to hack me - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/danielmiessler/SecLists/pull/155 <comment><USER2> That comment thread was gold, if only for the link to the most secure password in the world site... [0]

[Disclaimer seeing as the original joke was missed by many - this site link is totally tongue in cheek too. DON'T use the suggested password]

[0] - [https://mostsecure.pw/](https://mostsecure.pw/)

<comment><USER3> Secure Connection Failed

An error occurred during a connection to mostsecure.pw. SSL received a record that exceeded the maximum permissible length. Error code: SSL_ERROR_RX_RECORD_TOO_LONG

Just me? Is this just too secure™ for Firefox' liking?

<comment><USER4> It's just you. It worked fine for me in Firefox.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> Ctrl + F

hunter2

(4 matches)

I _love_ a good in-joke.

Spoilers: [http://bash.org/?244321](http://bash.org/?244321)

<comment><USER6> What did you search for? When you type hunter2 all I see are stars.

<comment><USER7> Copied the stars and then pasted that into CTRL-F

<comment><USER8> Fun fact: You have to escape the stars for them to show up on IRC. Otherwise people see their password!

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> The comments are humorous, of course, in the context of sharing passwords.

What if, instead of a password, the text to be censored is:

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

(That's a code that can be used to crack Blu-Ray discs).

Further reading: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controvers...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controversy)

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management#Oppo...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management#Opposition)

[https://www.eff.org/issues/drm](https://www.eff.org/issues/drm)

</comment><comment><USER10> They should have checked their password with [https://inutile.club/estatis/password-security- checker/](https://inutile.club/estatis/password-security-checker/) . It correctly identifies both "hunter2" and "dolphins" as unsafe.

<comment><USER6> That's a very good resource. I typed in gibberish to make sure it was what I hoped it was.

<comment><USER10> Of course, "gibberish" is also an unsafe password.

<comment><USER6> Very true.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER11> My address is listed in the phone book as well. Is there anyway I can get that removed? :P

<comment><USER12> Country?

<comment><USER11> Oh, it was a joke. Guess the topic of this was meant to be serious, ha. I even got downvoted.

<comment><USER13> One has to suffer for one's art

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER14> I'm not really a security expert, but wouldn't it be harder for hacker to notice the hack if you leave it and wisely change the first letter to upper/lower case?

</comment><comment><USER15> Thanks for this. I went ahead and created a merge request to remove my passwords too. /s

</comment><comment><USER16> Fun trolling :)

</comment><comment><USER17> Can someone please explain. I don't understand.

</comment><comment><USER18> I'm going to let this one slide, because most of us are not working today for various reasons, but I must note, I've never seen this side of GitHub. I probably spend too much time cloistered in work projects to notice.

<comment><USER19> > I'm going to let this one slide

Thanks for your benevolence.

<comment><USER18> Your snark is noted. However, unlike those that come here to delay their day's tasks, I come here to learn and be exposed to new things. As such, humor has never been a quality I seek from HN, and it detracts from the point of being here, for me.

<comment><USER20> Heyyy, it's that guy who looks down on those of us who don't use our real names!

I remember because you showed a similarly poor attitude in another thread. That attitude was so out of line with what I expect from HN that your username was seared in my mind :)

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER21> Nice. Subtle.

</comment><comment><USER22> This is hysterical, I love that tech has their own way of humor.

</comment><comment><USER23> I don't know what to think, he knows how to make a PR but doesn't get this simple thing... :)

<comment><USER24> He is trolling.. but I guess you are meta-trolling..

</comment></comment><comment><USER25> So, they want the password off the list, instead of changing it to something (much much much) more secure? Some variant of "battery horse staple and correct", right?

<comment><USER26> This is a joke.

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> Look, we all intuitively get that it's a bad idea and it is definitely funny. But honestly is it helping to make fun of the poor user rather than educate them as to why their password is on the list and the importance of secure password practices?

The security community I grew up with was welcoming and understanding, and it sparked an interest I never would have realized otherwise.

<comment><USER27> The user has a large number of GitHub commits and the technical knowledge needed to create a pull request probably exceeds the knowledge needed to know why this doesn't work...

I feel comfortable assuming the original PR is a joke.

<comment><USER6> > _the technical knowledge needed to create a pull request probably exceeds > the knowledge needed to know why this doesn 't work..._

The plural of anecdote is not data, but I have first hand experience with someone who can make a pull request but doesn't understand password best practices at all.

Granted it might be because I taught them to make pull requests, but still...

I know people who wrote code for their thesis in Python but can't grasp why indentation matters. You'd be surprised by what people do and don't know.

<comment><USER28> > I know people who wrote code for their thesis in Python but can't grasp why > indentation matters.

How can one write code (that runs!) for one's thesis without paying attention to Python's semantically significant whitespace?

<comment><USER29> Perhaps an IDE/editor that autoformats python code?

<comment><USER28> I am now more than a little embarrassed that this didn't even occur to me...

<comment><USER30> It doesn't make a whole ton of sense because you'd still need to know when to un-indent in order to get out of a conditional block. IDEs can't read your mind.

<comment><USER6> I've never asked the details, I just know that they used Python before but couldn't cope with indentation when I worked with them on code.

<comment><USER31> How did they fail to cope with it?

<comment><USER6> I had an answer typed up, but it felt like picking on them rather than explaining the issue. Text is hard.

After submitting changes that started 10 indents past the previous line, and had little to no rhyme or reason for subsequent indentation, we asked them to reformat and resubmit. When it became clear that they could not, we reviewed the code itself separately from the indentation and reformatted it ourselves.

Multiple co-workers sat next to them to try to explain how to line things up vertically, but they were unable to do so without said help.

This was over the course of about two weeks in which we were instructed to try to bring them onboard some of our projects. Both our and their projects at the time were frontend web projects.

I have not looked at any of their code outside what was submitted to our side, but I do know they are praised for the quality of their work by management.

<comment><USER31> Thanks. Interesting.</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment>


Ask HN: How did you get past the analysis paralysis for startup ideas? - <AUTHOR> A few friends and I have been talking about doing a startup as far as I can remember. After University all of us took jobs and now we feel fairly comfortable to start a business/something on the side. Only problem : Can't decide on an idea.
We create spread sheets and Google docs of ideas but can't zero in on anything. In University we would hack on anything and release it. I feel we are romanticizing the perfect idea too much.
Are we using ideas as an excuse to not start something?
Should we randomly hack on things that we like?
How did you get past your stage of analysis paralysis?
Some advice, I have received is to not look for ideas but to solve problems that you see in this world. How do you pick what problem you'll be spending the next few years on?
How did you find your idea? <comment><USER2> >Are we using ideas as an excuse to not start something?

Yes

>Should we randomly hack on things that we like?

Yes

>How did you get past your stage of analysis paralysis?

Start building something I love

>How do you pick what problem you'll be spending the next few years on?

Don't. It is far too hard to predict what is and isn't going to be a hit. If you really hate something, it'd be really dumb of you to pursue it just because you think you'll make money.

Build something you are passionate about.

I just keep a Trello list of any idea I have. I don't prejudge. I put ideas on there even if I think they're dumb because some day they might stop being or might morph into something else.

<comment><AUTHOR> How do you pick what to work on from your Trello list?

<comment><USER2> Some kind of combination of what is currently feasible (I have the space to work on it), interesting to work on and occasionally, has the potential to be monetized.

I sometimes work on stuff that don't have a clear monetization path. Generally those turn into experiments that I can feed the lessons into easier to monetize projects.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER3> Most profitable ideas are something that solves a problem you or one of your founders and who's customers would be businesses or individuals who could save/make money using your service in their own business.

For Inspiration Checkout the businesses on indiehackers. Listen to their podcast too. [https://www.indiehackers.com/products](https://www.indiehackers.com/products)

Good Advice - DHH Startup School [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CDXJ6bMkMY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CDXJ6bMkMY)

Listen to the archive starting at episode 1 Rob goes from drop shipping beach towels and jobs websites through a couple successful software products to founding and exiting with Drip. [http://www.startupsfortherestofus.com/archives](http://www.startupsfortherestofus.com/archives)</comment>