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Weekend Confirmed 137 - Halo 4, Assassin's Creed 3By Andrew Yoon, Nov 02, 2012 11:00am PDT
Halo 4 is pretty darn good. And hosts Garnett Lee and Jeff Cannata have to agree. They talk all about the single-player campaign in this week's show. Then, Andrew Yoon talks about why Assassin's Creed 3 disappointed him, and special guest Christian Spicer talks about the Vita spin-off, Assassin's Creed 3: Liberation Weekend Confirmed Ep. 136: 11/02/2012 Subscription Links:
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Round 1, Part 1 - 00:00:26 - 00:12:36
Round 1, Part 2 - 00:13:14 - 00:28:39
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By: bebopdabebop x Show Full PostI'm a little late to the game here, so I don't know if I will bother to read a lot of the comments, but if nothing else I did want to say that this episode dealt with the PR/Advertising/Gaming Journalism topic with much more depth, and that's all I really ask for, and well that and not being insulting and dismissive when addressing an argument.
Speaking of which, it's too bad that Jeff got pummeled, but not to sound mean or anything, but I kinda feel like he deserved it. You don't just generalize a wide variety of people, dismiss their arguments, and then insult them by calling them jealous or having nothing better to do with their time. That really is kind of asking for it. Regardless though I'm glad he was much more reasonable this time around.
And I wanted to address one last thing. Even though I'm posting this way after the fact, for future elections, for the love of god DO NOT VOTE if you are ignorant about your local elections and ballot initiatives. Your vote makes little difference in the presidential election due to the electoral college (unless you're in a swing state), but it absolutely does matter for local issues. I just want to dispel the myth that higher voter turnout is unarguably good for democracy. We do not need more ignorant voters pushing buttons and pulling levers completely at random. We need more well-informed voters, and LESS ignorant voters. So please, either educate yourself on the issues, or don't vote at all.Nov 16, 2012 12:37pm PST
By: ChaosNovaXZ x Show Full PostHalo 4 midnight thread?
Multiplayer is awesome as shit. Maps and weapons feel great.
Spartan Ops is cool, but..it lags just like every other Halo game played co-op over XBL. Sometimes there's almost a full second of input lag. It's pretty bad. We've talked about this before, and this may well hinder people buying Spartan Ops content when it becomes paid DLC. No use buying something that may be unplayable due to lag at any time.Nov 05, 2012 10:35pm PSTHalo 4 midnight thread? Multiplayer is awesome as shit. Maps and weapons feel great. Spartan Ops is... : ChaosNovaXZ
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That's one of the advantages of living in Australia. I've had the game for almost a day now. It's pretty ... : Shadow13th
You're getting lag? My brother and I just played all 5 missions with absolutely no lag, and we're NEVE... : CruelLEGACEY
I was TEARING IT UP my first few hours at Halo 4, had like a 2.5 K/D, lol, which is waaaaaaaay too high. ... : MHSilver
By: hamstock x Show Full PostCreated a user account just to say this.
Garnett I have been listening to you since the hay day's of 1up yours, and I have enjoyed every show. I have to point out though, that other than the occasional game review I have no other interaction with Games media. Just your show. Oh and retronaughts from time to time. I barely have enough free time in my life to actually play games, let alone argue about them online.
That being said, this weeks episode and had me curious as to what the whole bucket of syrup was about in regards to last weeks Integrity in journalism discussion. So for the first time ever I came to this website and looked at the comments for last weeks show.
I was thoroughly disgusted with some of the remarks.
I want to write a rant about how people need to get their head out of their ass, get a life, and stop worrying about a show made for entertainment. Not to mention its a show about a subject that (in the grand scheme of things) doesn't really matter, and is given away for free . To personally insult someone you've never met, who your only interaction with is because they want to entertain you for free is asinine, rude, and over all pointless.
I will instead say thank you for providing me with years of interesting and fun shows. I love all your guests, Andrea included, and everything you are doing is fantastic. To me you aren't "journalists" that I have to hold to some impossible standard. You're just some cool dudes that ride in my car and chat with me about video games.
This will however be the last time I ever choose to waste my time with the show thread, or the rest of this "community".
The rest of you, please, before you decide to rage on an internet forum, try donating blood, or volunteer at a children's hospital, or learn an instrument or something. Cause this whole thing that's happening right here, this is bullshit, and we only have so much time.Nov 08, 2012 3:36pm PSTCreated a user account just to say this. Garnett I have been listening to you since the hay day's of 1... : hamstock
By: ImprobableJ x Show Full PostI just have to add that Garnett and co. have really addressed a lot of the PR and journalism stuff in extreme detail back in the 1UP days.
I would advice you check out some of those episodes since I can't possibly think how it could be done better (still catching up with the bombcast, so I don't know how much they went into it last week).
Plus one of the episodes has the bonus of Garnett defending Prey and everyone else taking him to task (some of the funnier moments).Nov 07, 2012 2:42pm PSTI just have to add that Garnett and co. have really addressed a lot of the PR and journalism stuff in ext... : ImprobableJ
So for all those that argue anonymity on the Internet is what causes the lack of restraint. Obviously you didn't see Facebook last night;)Nov 07, 2012 10:57am PSTSo for all those that argue anonymity on the Internet is what causes the lack of restraint. Obviously you... : Mysssss
By: Wuggyboobeaufuf x Show Full PostRE the "journalism" discussion:
Christian was the only one who really seemed like he got the issue and had the balls to really talk about what mattered. He pinpointed exactly what I think a lot of people have been voicing over the last week. Kudos to him.
Nobody is saying you shouldn't use PR or interact with PR. It's supposed to be a tool, but it's become a driving force that has influence. That is the problem.
As for Garnett's comment - "Even the appearance of impropriety can undermine that trust completely"
Completely agree 100%. Completely agree with Jeff's point about Trachtenberg on TRS as well. Which is why I find it so staggeringly mind-boggling that you guys completely brushed the Andrea thing aside before you even started talking about it.
I'm not surprised, just disappointed that you guys completely soft-balled the entire issue.
One less podcast to waste my time with.Nov 04, 2012 11:27pm PSTRE the "journalism" discussion: Christian was the only one who really seemed like he got the issue a... : Wuggyboobeaufuf
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I'm still confused as to what Andrea did? I'm asking genuinely because I can't find any info about it ... : Shadow13th
Machinima was given both free games and monetary compensation by EA for posting early videos of Need For ... : Wuggyboobeaufuf
So was Andrea given money or games? And what's wrong with EA paying Machinima money to promote their ... : Shadow13th
Machinima was given both games and money to promote NFS. Andrea promoted the game, then came on WC afte... : Wuggyboobeaufuf
In the context of her talking about payola, it was hypocritical to say what she said on WC. : Wuggyboobeaufuf
You're lieing. I'll quote Andrea "It feels like they're almost trying to compete with Need for Speed in... : XbotUSA
You're lieing. I'll quote Andrea "It feels like they're almost trying to compete with Need for Speed in... : XbotUSA
I don't think we're going to get any sort of explanation of Andrea's actions. So at this point I can only... : M.Gibbs
Hey GO VOTE!!!!! Most important thing you can do today. Even more important than any griping about journalism you have to do today;)Nov 06, 2012 7:49am PSTHey GO VOTE!!!!! Most important thing you can do today. Even more important than any griping about journa... : Mysssss
By: MHSilver x Show Full PostI don't really see the issue with the Halo lore, honestly.
Yes, it gets up it's own ass a tad. No arguments there. Ever seen Prometheus? Or played Mass Effect? This is not exactly a rare thing for sci-fi.
As for the fact that it's a 'love story', I think that's a pretty reductive way to look at it. The characters care for one another - that doesn't mean it's romantic. Was Shawshank Redemption a romance because it had too characters that cared for one another?
The relationship between Cortana and MC seems like a totally valid means to explore and expand on the characters personalities, and the lore of the universe (AIs, Spartan program, etc).Nov 05, 2012 10:23am PSTI don't really see the issue with the Halo lore, honestly. Yes, it gets up it's own ass a tad. No argu... : MHSilver
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Devsword seems to attach sexist themes to a lot of things, like he's looking for a way to tie something t... : Shadow13th
Whoops, replied to the wrong thread : Shadow13th
Like Garnett- Halo lost me with Audrey (Gravemind?). I still really like the game but mainly play for the... : Runnermatt
There is no human interest in the story of Halo. Master Chief's and Kortana's relationship looks like it... : DevSword
By: DevSword x Show Full PostI found Jeff's take on the story of Halo embarrassingly accurate. It is basically the love story between a futuristic GI Joe and his naked blue holographic woman. The production values do look amazing. But that said, I'm a bit put off specifically by the premise of 4, being that Kortana is slowly losing her mind because her AI thought processes are becoming too complicated or whatever. It honestly smacks of pretty Victorian level stereotypes about feminine frailty. Like she can't live past the age of 7, or she will "think herself to death" as one review put it. Its like an unintentional redux of The Yellow Wallpaper.Nov 02, 2012 10:24pm PDTI found Jeff's take on the story of Halo embarrassingly accurate. It is basically the love story between... : DevSword
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I can't speak to Halo 4, but I've never thought the story of Halo was about Master Chief at all. It "star... : CruelLEGACEY
Yeah, it does look like it will be a bomb going off, but its the way its couched that's the problem. A w... : DevSword
True, but doing something like that would be problematic as well. First of all, they'd get slammed for ri... : CruelLEGACEY
They could also just not make Kortana a like a naked stripper. Like Chaos was saying about them treating... : DevSword
Also have to say, loved the criticism o the "button pressing" campaign design. Obviously I haven't playe... : DevSword
And Uncharted is a thinly vieled Indiana Jones rip off, Mario is embarrassing stereo type who jumps on tu... : Shadow13th
I definitely agree with Jeff's "I wanna do shit NOW" comment. I have zero interest in the Forerunners : RedSwirl
I'm at odds with his dislike of ancient civilizations, "those who came before" type mysteries - they're s... : ChaosNovaXZ
Yeah, it's a problem in Sci-Fi because the appeal is already the fact that it takes place in the future. : RedSwirl
...Oh for the love of. A) Who cares if it's a female character going insane or a male character? The n... : MHSilver
Ut oh its the male rights organisation. Don't let me interfere with your stratergising! Keep fighting t... : DevSword
I like how you use "male rights organization" mockingly. You clearly don't live in the States, or you'd u... : ChaosNovaXZ
No I'm right there with you bud. Its like we're all enslaved and at the mercy of teh womens!! Powah to ... : DevSword
You know that's not at all what I mean. Stop being such a troll. Could you please just try and realize : ChaosNovaXZ
Your talking about vagina with a 14 year old chaos. Through some great investigative journalism on my par... : Mysssss
*rolls eyes* Sure thing Don Quixote, you keep up the noble fight against those windmills. : MHSilver
By: Garnett Lee x Show Full PostFolks, with regard to the Need for Speed situation. It's not that I don't understand. The core issue comes down to Machinima, its policies, and what people did and did not know or do at any time. I cannot speak to that.
We're moving forward talking about the positive things that we discussed on the show. Love to continue on that subject and believe it can really help us be stronger.Nov 03, 2012 2:03pm PDTFolks, with regard to the Need for Speed situation. It's not that I don't understand. The core issue come... : Garnett Lee
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I should have read the entire page as I only just read this. Andrea was a guest on the show that you run ... : XbotUSA
How do you know they didn't ask for a statement from Andrea? How do you know Andrea hasn't been prepar... : Shadow13th
Come on, it's simple deny it or admit she was being paid to promote a game she enthusiastically discussed... : XbotUSA
No, often times it's not as easy as you've out it. Do you know everything that is going on behind the ... : Shadow13th
You know i don't know everything that goes on behind the scenes but im positive i know that Garnett knows... : XbotUSA
The fact is Garnett might not really know the full story. You just don't know, either do I. And if that m... : Shadow13th
What you don't seem to be able to comprehend is that some of these people say they have been listening a ... : M.Gibbs
I'm still here because I'm a little annoyed by the prospect I've been duped. Andrew suggested we come her... : XbotUSA
Xbot, I'm doing my level best to address everyone. We had a forthright discussion about the topic on the ... : Garnett Lee
Not trying to be dense, just to clarify: Your policy is that people who work for shacknews are require... : EternalGamer2
Of come on now, this sort of statement is made in an adversarial manner. I will reiterate, we expect ever... : Garnett Lee
As a responsible host Garnett you really should at least tap the phones of potential guests and tail them... : Shadow13th
Come on, there are people who are trying to discuss this. If you're not interested go away and stop tryin... : XbotUSA
You're not interested in discussing anything, you're here to merely register your contempt for the show a... : Shadow13th
Come on, maybe you need to be belittled a little. Andrea has a twitter account and a big internet footpri... : HockeyJohnston
But Andrea didn't disclose any influences or affiliations and you're letting her off the hook. From a... : Wuggyboobeaufuf
Okay, we're getting somewhere! So Andreas response on twitter 'was unfortunate' yes I agree it was insult... : XbotUSA
I think that last question is absolutely reasonable and deserves an answer. Garnett expects guests to be ... : Berek007
Hey Garnett, Long time listener, since 2006, 1UY days. First time poster. Just wanted to say that ... : sits69
By: SwittersYoni x Show Full PostA bit off topic but really funny! Guess what the top selling game was last week for a single platform? Bet you got it wrong! Very funny and so, so weird!
http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41210/Global/Nov 04, 2012 7:07pm PSTA bit off topic but really funny! Guess what the top selling game was last week for a single platform? ... : SwittersYoni
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Vinny makes everything better : SwittersYoni
By: Rvancetal x Show Full PostKinda Halo 4 related
As someone who doesn't care about the language the other people want to throw at me across the internet I find this troubling and a slippery slope.
Nov 02, 2012 12:56pm PDTKinda Halo 4 related http://www.gamespot.com/news/halo-4-devs-speak-out-against-sexism-6399205 As s... : Rvancetal
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political correctness bullshit needs to stop, where you have to bite you lip every fucking second, if you... : flanker33
Yeah, I rolled my eyes at that piece. It goes out of its way to assume that every female gamer on XBL is ... : ChaosNovaXZ
It is SO HARD being a white man in this society. Its like oppression around EVERY CORNER. People need t... : DevSword
Ok, so lets actually break down this post: " its way to assume that every female gamer on XBL is totally : DevSword
Right, because wanting both men and women to be held by the same standard is male gamer stupidity? Jes... : ChaosNovaXZ
I just pulled direct quotes from you post. If you're unhappy with what I said, you should reconsider you... : DevSword
You pulled direct quotes and misconstrued them. Do you honestly believe I have some hatred for anyone ... : ChaosNovaXZ
I can't even follow your argument here, so I'm going to ignore it until you clear it up and just point ou... : MHSilver
"The men of today do not owe the women of today figurative reparations in the form of putting up with bul... : DevSword
"This is a discussion about sexism that exists today on Xbox Live. Not about "paying reparations" for pas... : MHSilver
The difference between a woman saying something bad to you and you saying something sexist to a woman is : DevSword
Then the fundamental disagreement is the amount of social leverage men still hold over women, and how muc... : MHSilver
Calling women sluts attacked a woman's power by shaming her sexuality. Its not like slut means "ugly." ... : DevSword
This is where I get irked. Men have full rights on paper too. However, try winning any sort of court c... : ChaosNovaXZ
Also, in the context of specifically this Halo instance, my point was that they're going to throw a femal... : ChaosNovaXZ
Ok drop the broader gender issues for a second, what happened in this thread is you got mad at a female d... : DevSword
The problem is that male gamers aren't the only ones doing it, but are the only ones ever called out. ... : ChaosNovaXZ
"The word "creep" simply doesn't have the same connotation for men. It doesn't shame his sexuality. " ... : MHSilver
"And, yes you should call out offensive behavior from women. It is actually true that women get away with... : ChaosNovaXZ
They can speak out all they want against it, it's not going to change the culture one iota. And quite ... : MHSilver
There are always new generations of kids coming onto XBL, so this behavior will always be there, sadly en... : ChaosNovaXZ
Meh, there are a lot of factors at play to make any culture the way it is. Every culture has it's own... : MHSilver
I don't necessarily agree. I want it to change and think it should. Women shouldn't have to put up with i... : ChaosNovaXZ
Well yeah, he's working from the bullshit feminist perspective that it's impossible for a group with more... : MHSilver
In any case, I believe every culture should be allowed to evolve organically. The fact is, geek cultur... : MHSilver
The people on XBL calling women sluts are dude bros. Geeks tend to respect minorities. They don't harbo... : DevSword
Ok. Well, I'm born and raised in Canada, so suffice to say there is very little confederate flag waving o... : MHSilver
Actually, a larger percentage of geeks, 81.1%, have trouble in social situations and are far more likely ... : Shadow13th
Basic human social dynamics. 1) Lashing out at the groups you feel aggrieved by. 2) Lifting oneself... : MHSilver
A shame, I was hoping someone would call me on my blatantly made up and unfounded statistic. I just figur... : Shadow13th
lol. I just love how MHSilver is now argument that geeks are totally sexist, and apparently that's why t... : DevSword
I think you're confusing things. Look back through my posts and quote me where I said that geeks aren'... : MHSilver
So in other words you think that desegregation of schools in the south (we're talking USA here) should no... : DevSword
That's a ludicrous comparison. Black children were literally barred from going to white schools. Wo... : MHSilver
Its not a comparison its an analogy. What you're arguing is that you there should be no enforcement mech... : DevSword
The analogy hits you in the face in this case because Free Speech is also part of that whole government t... : Rvancetal
Right, but the government didn't act in efforts to progress the culture, they acted because segregation w... : MHSilver
Did you really just say that? : Rvancetal
Another kinda related discussion, does anyone actually think that when someone makes these comments over ... : Rvancetal
By: oscarhaglund x Show Full PostDuring the Games Journalism debate you mention that "anyone in this business has to have a formal relationship with the public relations teams, because the PR teams hold all of the materials".
I understand that statement but I don't neccessarily believe that it is true all of the time.
A very interesting example is that of Incgamers.com. Their Diablo fansite (formerly Diabloii.net and now diablo.incgamers.com) has been by far the most popular diablo fansite since before the release of Diablo 2. What is interesting is that they built this fanbase during the development of D2, at which point in time they had a close relationship with Blizzard North. In fact they were the first outside Blizzard to ever see the game.
What is interesting with this example is that diablo.incgamers is nowdays completely shunned by Blizzard. They recieve no materials from PR, were never part of any of the fansite interviews conducted by Blizzard and so on. There are several reasons for this, one of the most interesting is that any other fansite that directly recieved materials from Blizzard during the development of D3 were forced to sign a contract where they promised to never say anything bad about the game. Incgamers, having an iota of integrity, refused to sign that contract and subsequently were shunned by Blizzard. In fact it has gone so far that they were sarcastically pointed out by blizzard employees as "paragons of objectivity" during the Diablo 3 David Brevik facebook scandal. This is of course ironic in itself because incgamers were in fact one of the few sites that were in fact fairly "objective" in their coverage. When other fansties did nothing but gush over the game, incgamers provided analysis and interesting commentary.
All of this was done with absolutely zero access to the devs through PR. There are of course many differences between a game specific fansite like this and a general games outlet like shack, it is still an interesting reminder that perhaps we need not be as beholden to PR as might seem the case.Nov 06, 2012 8:20am PSTDuring the Games Journalism debate you mention that "anyone in this business has to have a formal relatio... : oscarhaglund
By: PhillipeBosher x Show Full PostCongratulations are in order:
Spicer is now the father of a beautiful baby girl! Amazing! Woo! I'm incredibly pleased for the guy (and, of course, his wife) -- so here's a little thread in case any of you guys want to post saying Gratz to him :)Nov 05, 2012 10:00am PSTCongratulations are in order: Spicer is now the father of a beautiful baby girl! Amazing! Woo! I'm inc... : PhillipeBosher
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Congratulations man. All the best to you and yours. : goingcommando117
:) : CampKusoge
By: Runnermatt x Show Full PostIn the end, it comes down to trust. At some point readers/ listener has to take all the info and make that decision.
Personally I do trust info from WC folks- Garnett, Jeff C., Jeff. M, Spicer and lately Andrew Y. Not that I think they are perfect or without bias but I believe each one is professional enough to give their honest opinion.
Some of the newer people on the show (while enjoyable) simply haven't earned it yet.Nov 05, 2012 6:05pm PST
By: CruelLEGACEY x Show Full PostHalo Backstory Highlites
With so many of us picking up Halo 4 tonight, I thought it would be a good idea to post a few key story points from Halo's extended fiction, since I have a feeling they will play directly into what happens in the games from this point on. Of course, these are some heavy spoilers for some of the Halo novels (primarily the Greg Bear Forrunner Trilogy).
*** Regarding the Forrunners ***
Forruners were obviously technologically advanced. They also had EXTREMELY long lifespans (tens of thousands of years, easily). But they were not as far above humans as we (gamers) originally believed. In fact, they were once at war with Humans, over 100 thousand years before Halo CE. They defeated humans, but just barely. In fact, it is theorized that Humanity might have actually won the war, except we were ALSO fighting the flood at the same time.
In order to control humanity, the Forrunners wiped us out to the brink of extinction. Those who remaned were genetically debased back to a caveman state.
Forrunners themselves often wore advanced armor, each with its own built-in AI. This AI would often show itself as a small Blue Female. This ties in to the theory that Dr Halsey, the creator of the Spartan project, was deeply influenced by ancient Forrunner artifacts and technology that she had discovered. In other words, it is possible that Master Chief and Cortana are based very much on Forrunner technology.
*** The Didact ***
The Didact was actually introduced back in Halo 3, in the hidden terminals. He was the leader of the Forrunners armies, and helped them win the first war against humanity. Larger, stronger, and more powerful than most others of his kind, he is in a way the Forrunner equivelant of the Master Chief.
He was actually directly opposed to the creation of the Halo rings as a weapon to combat the flood. He proposed the construction of Shield Worlds in which the Forrunners could protect themselves through isolation. Requium is believed to be one such shield world. Because of his opposition to the creation of the Rings, the Didact was forced into exile by his rivals high within Forrunner society.
One more important fact about the Didact: There are 2 of him. Forrunner's version of "Puberty" involves a form of cross-mutation. A young forrunner will absorb the genetic imprint of one of his elders, taking on some of their memories, and even their physical appearance. Shortly before the initially firing of the Halo rings that wiped out most life in the universe, the Didact imprinted upon a young Forrunner named Bornstellar.
The Didact's genetic code was so strong and overpowering (since it contained tens of thousands of years of genetic code and memory) that young Bornstellar was virtually absorbed by it. Essentially, just before the firing of the Halo rings, there were 2 Didacts running around, 1 of whom used to be a different person. It is unknown if both Didacts survived the firing of the rings, or WHICH one of them meets Master Chief in Halo 4.
*** About AI ***
Forrunner society put great emphasis on the creation and use of AI constructs. Their ships had AIs, their armor had AIs, their homes and cities were run by AIs. But there was one AI that dwarfed all others: Mendacit Bias. MB was created by the Didact. It was far more complex and powerful than any other AI in existance. It was so powerful that it began to develop a level of self-awareness that was not intended. At one point, MB actually took control of a recently constructed Halo Ring and went all "broken arrow" with it, attempting to use it for its own purposes. It was re-captured by the Didact. It is unknown what happened to it after that.
So for Halo nerds like me, there is a clear mirror image beginning to develop between Humanity and the Forrunners.
Both sides are eager to establish themselves as the dominant power in the galaxy. Then we have Master Chief and the Didact: champions of thier people, but both potential outcasts as well. Are we going to see Chief go through a similar exile as the Didact? Will he go through similar transformations? And how will the AI play into this? Cortana is clearly being set up to mirror Mendacant Bias. What will happen when she decides to take matters into her own hands?
NERGASM!!!! :DNov 05, 2012 1:22pm PST
By: Jenkins22 x Show Full PostREGARDING THE SECTION ABOUT CORRUPT GAMES JOURNALISM
Cool your jets Garnett, I'm not shouting it's just a title for my thread
I didn't listen to the show but reading reaction over at Neogaf it would seem the issue of Weekend Confirmed Contributors and their relationship with advertising and other promotions was not divulged?
What was said of Andrea outright dismissing the Issue last week when all of the evidence suggests she is complicit in this?
Recent Examples being EA/Need for Speed and Borderlands.
What was said of the manner in which Andrea mocked concerned listeners on her twitter feed and if innocent why act in such a way?
What steps have been taken at shacknews to ensure there isn't a "conflict of interest" and that if money/perks have changed hands there is full transparency?
I could be wrong (as I said I haven't listened or been able to find a transcript) but it sounds like none of the issues were actually addressed. Surely what people want to know is where they stand with the integrity of the guests and from what I can fathom, it was only the issue at large which was discussed?Nov 03, 2012 10:13am PDTREGARDING THE SECTION ABOUT CORRUPT GAMES JOURNALISM Cool your jets Garnett, I'm not shouting it's jus... : Jenkins22
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"I didn't listen to the show" but let me launch into a series of opinions without any basis. : Garnett Lee
wow Garnett, rapidly loosing all respect for you. I read the thread at Neogaf and as it would take me ... : Jenkins22
I just finished the episode with some of same concerns as this guy and the guy below. I'd appreciate a r... : XbotUSA
I wish they'd move on and not bother talking about it it's BORING conversation, and frankly doesn't matte... : Mysssss
Could this post be any dumber? : HockeyJohnston
I haven't read this post but I would like to say I too am sick of people putting mayonaise on everything.... : Runnermatt
No. Too late. You mentioned airplane food, now start talking about it you jerk! Start talking NOW (caps u... : ChristianSpicer
I love you guys :) : CruelLEGACEY
Clearly you've never been to flavor country! : mogwaiinjustice
Jenkins they said they weren't going to comment on Andrea because they think she should speak for herself... : DevSword
With all due respect, if you didn't listen to the show you should have just kept quiet. That's kinda like... : Shadow13th
By: M.Gibbs x Show Full PostGarnett, Andrew, Jeff, Christian & Andrea
I'm not attacking Andrea. Everyone makes mistakes.
You invited us here to discuss this Issue of Integrity of Contributors to Weekend Confirmed, which was brought into doubt by Andrea's actions. There are those of us who have showed up to do just that. Are we wasting our time asking for clarification of the following Issues? If so Tell us now, we'll leave and forget about the podcast.
Was Andrea Selling Advertising Space on Weekend Confirmed?
If so how long has this been going on?
and most importantly:
What stance does Weekend Confirmed take on this issue?
What action, if any is taken against those who do this?
The nature of this message board means that people who are uninterested and dismissive of the issue can easily burry the concerns of people who are interested.
This is my final attempt to get to the root of the issue. Garnett, I really feel for you. I have been listening to your vice for a long time and I'll miss the podcast but just like the election Integrity is an important issue.
A few posters have asked to be brought up to speed so I'm going to do my best here to avoid further dilution of the issue.
First there's this:
This thanks to XbotUSA:
I'll quote Andrea "It feels like they're almost trying to compete with Need for Speed in a year when Need for Speed looks really, really awesome"
then Garnett: "I haven't had a chance to play much Most Wanted I mean the urban...."
Andrea cuts him off (as she so often does) "IT'S REEEEEALLY GOOOD"
This was shortly after she dismissed the issue as "bull-cocky". This is the most blatant hypocrisy and flagrant disregard for the audeince, which is backed up by her LOL reaction on twitter.
Starts at 1:40 Ep 136 of Weekend Confirmed
Andrea later mocked concerned listeners on her twitter feed but didn't deny any of this.
I also found this: http://i.imgur.com/05AdG.jpg
.While it's not a playstation 3 its still the same issue as the people who were tweeting to win one brought up in the Eurogamer articleNov 05, 2012 11:10am PST
By: BillPaxtonator x Show Full Poston Assassin's creed hype
I was in high school when the first game came out and the game captured a whole lot of attention. It was incredibly marketed that it sold despite the lukewarm reviews it was practically an event that rocked schoolyards. It's not hard to see why the scope spanning history and the future (a little bit highlander in my mind) and the flashy marketing that resembles everyone favorite animes was practically made for the youths (not to come off as too cynical as Mass effect was made to appeal those who dig sci-fi shows and was still awesome). 3 like the other games have alot of ads all of which feature Connor prominently.
I played the games up to brotherhood and liked them well enough but I'm finding that the games are getting really directionless with a lot of mini-games (tank sections and flying machines) hiding the fact that the core mechanics are mostly unchanged. I liked the past narratives but the future plot is rather muddled, in that I'm not sure if the writers know the rules of their own universe(without rules in fantasy drama/interest is muted).
on a side note I love Redlettermeida's reviews and they make small movies, their reviews really dig into the small thing.Nov 02, 2012 3:53pm PDTon Assassin's creed hype I was in high school when the first game came out and the game captured a who... : BillPaxtonator
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From what I'm hearing in the podcast it seems like AC3 is about as good as the last few - i.e., I probabl : RedSwirl
I thought just about everything said on this week's show was spot on. The series never centered itself a... : DevSword
As for the costume, I've always thought it funny how overly conspicuous they were in public, to be someon... : ChaosNovaXZ
Yeah, its like the super hero who doesn't have an alter ego, and thus just like tilts his head down when ... : DevSword
Imagine Spiderman or Batman running from the cops then all of a sudden he just sits down on a bench and t... : Shadow13th
Ass's Creed 1 is in my top 3 worst games of this gen. The series is completely over-hyped. Bloated, s... : Wuggyboobeaufuf
By: EternalGamer2 x Show Full PostIn regard to this week's conversation about Games media, Chrisitian and Andrew had great contributions and I really appreciated the conversation about letting people know more "behind the scenes" stuff. I also agree with Garnett that one of the best things that can come from these types of conversations is creating a scenario where games media has a more heightened awareness in the future.
Jeff was just kind of weird in this discussion, honestly. I respect the story he told about Danny not covering films on TRS any more and why. Actually I watch TRS regularly and never knew this. I just kind of thought it was because Danny hadn't seen the particular film or that they thought one person needed to play "host." It was good information for me as a listener. And I gained respect for them holding this position.
But then Jeff seemed insistant in turning the story into a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" and kind of implying that people can never be satisfied. Jeff, I dont think anyone had a problem with any ethical standards you have set. The entire criticism of you from last week's show was your arguments, not your actions. And mainly it was just that you said people who had a problem with the Keighley thing were just jealous, which was a shitty thing to say.
Also in regards to Jeff saying he does not want to become cynical, please note that being skeptical is not the same thing as being cynical. Do people want you to be skeptical of PR and marketing? Yes. But that doesnt mean you can't be genuinely excited. Actually rather it is just a way of making it more likely that the excitement you feel is genuine and warranted. Jeff really seeemed kind of on the verge of wanting to say that he liked getting wrapped up in hype because it is "fun," and on that note I strongly disagree with him that that is what viewers want. They want you to be a filter and be discerning. If they just wanted to get excited about something with no critical distance at all, then they would just watch marketing and trailers.
Finally, while I understand the idea of not speaking for Andrea, I wish you guys would have at least addressed Shacknews policy on having people give their opinion when they are gaining money from game companies. You guys can talk about transparency and standards in an abstract philosophical way but this is a real issue that many of us want clarity on. It is kind of disheartening that you avoided the conversation altogether. This is where real transparency starts.[/QUOTE]Nov 02, 2012 1:11pm PDTIn regard to this week's conversation about Games media, Chrisitian and Andrew had great contributions an... : EternalGamer2
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Shacknews never takes money from a publisher for any coverage. Period. However, we will occasionally acce... : AndrewYoon
Ok, but that still doesn't really address my question of having people on the podcast who are not disclos... : EternalGamer2
Well, I can only speak on behalf of Shacknews and GameFly Media. I hope you understand! : AndrewYoon
Isn't that just a matter of common sense? I think it's a by overkill feelin the need to have every guest'... : Shadow13th
Basically what I took to Lin to say is that they're 'guests' not official press or media, treat their opi... : Shadow13th
Also how much effort does it really take to disclose a potential conflict of interest. It requires one s... : EternalGamer2
So StreetfighterXTekken has done its job! I'm buying tekken tag 2 on the WiiU first tekken game I'm going to buy since the ps1:) well played namco;)Nov 05, 2012 3:51am PST
By: ImprobableJ x Show Full PostHopefully it won't be for quite some time until the games journalism 'debate' comes up again, considering how much of an undying beast this topic always seems to be (and seemingly with little to no evolving arguments).
I personally treat the writing, editorial and investigative, similarly to how sports journalism gets covered.
Player contracts and trades, punishments and fines, behaviours, etc. are often revealed through PR unless it was something that was dug out as a scoop, or something that was leaked by an anonymous source, in which case the PR response is inevitable, much like with gaming where the more certain rumors get thrown out, the more it is the PR responsibility to address it. This is usually pretty general stuff; stuff that most people are interested in first and foremost. Everything else that is beyond gaming/sports that specifically delve into personnel profiles and/or specific process to me falls under investigative/ background pieces. The pieces to me are not for those who only want the stuff on games/sports, but are an absolute bonus for those who are interested; providing it is done right. It is totally extracurricular for me, and you can take it or leave it.
For investigative/ background pieces, the best analogy I can give for both the "how it should be done" and the "how to do it in the worst way" appeared in the ESPN magazine: Michael Vick issue, which came out last year. Apologies in advance if you're not a sports person, as this is the best analogy I can give (you can just look it up yourself to see the negatives). I'll start with the worst way first.
So in the ESPN Michael Vick issue, one of the main controversial articles was based on "What if Michael Vick was white?". Not only was this uninteresting (and not to mention making him out to be a Vanilla Ice knock-off that even the original would be embarrassed to be associated with), but it was clearly baiting for controversy and not even informative.
This would be like a hypothetical article about: "What if Itagaki didn't like boobs so much; How would Dead or Alive turn out?" Why on the surface the title is preposterous (and my generate some cheap giggles), what use could a (hypothetical) article like this have?
Now for the positives. In the same Michael Vick issue, there was an investigative piece that focused on Michael Vick going into jail, his experience, and the aftermath of it all (from his friends and relatives). This now is something that is much more interesting as it humanizes athletes that we've deemed fallen athletes (who had risen, though it is debatable if he has fallen again based on this year). Not only that, but the article was written in such a way that it doesn't force sides for you to take. It doesn't ask you to take sides. All it did in a very good way, was present the facts and perspectives, and let that speak for itself so you as the reader could have an opinion.
To me, this is very close to the piece ran a few years back (I think it was a Wired article) that covered the rise and fall of Duke Nukem Forever (this was before it was bought by Gearbox). All the facts were presented, most of the personnel perspectives were sought after. This was an absolutely compelling piece that illustrated so many hazards and lessons from behind the scenes. Again, while all this is really fascinating, you do not need to read all this stuff as companion to your gaming; but it certainly does shed light on certain things as a bonus, if you do read about it (i.e. most of the gaming experience and levels on Duke Nukem Forever).
I loved that Garnett straight up addressed the notion of 'not being journalists, but maintaining journalistic integrity' (apologies if I paraphrased it incorrectly). Jeff was spot on with the reasoning for why Dan doesn't do movie reviews anymore (so THAT'S why he's never present...), nor review games that are sponsored by the company that made them (I remember AC: Brotherhood being the case, and Jeff reiterating all this). You write and present your views that informs people, and it is up to them whether they take it or leave it, as long as you do it with no conflict of interest. Again, why Ariel isn't on the show while she works at Sony(?), nor with past guests like Shane Bettenhausen.
I also think this is where the notion of journalism confuses people; those that are knee deep in the hobby feel compelled to address the coverage and writing of gaming as something that should be much higher than it should be. Every time this sort of treatment comes up, I always feel that the 'hardcore' are just doing the impossible and forcing people to like what they themselves like, which to me is pretty insulting.
Phew, that was long winded. Apologies in advance as I haven't been on the forums for ages, so I guess I blew my load in one big burst (hey yo!).Nov 05, 2012 1:27am PST
By: Shadow13th x Show Full PostJust finished the episode.
Thanks Garnett and the crew (including the people behind the scenes) for giving me a few free hours of free and sometimes side splittingly funny conversations.
I appreciate the effort you all go to and the hours each you put aside do make this free show. There's not a lot of free stuff in this world that is any good.
You make my time at the gym a lot easier.
Keep up the outstanding work mates!Nov 03, 2012 3:04pm PDTJust finished the episode. Thanks Garnett and the crew (including the people behind the scenes) for gi... : Shadow13th
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I just wanted to say I enjoyed the episode too. Thanks guys! Spicer is always funny and it was cool to s... : pixelRyan
Thank you Shadow, pixel, Chaos, _ToeNail, and everyone else who enjoys the show. We do our level best wee... : Garnett Lee
By: MHSilver x Show Full PostHalo 4 and Assassin's Creed 3 talk? I think this episode could be one of the best of the year on that alone. :DNov 02, 2012 11:41am PDTHalo 4 and Assassin's Creed 3 talk? I think this episode could be one of the best of the year on that alo... : MHSilver
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Absolutely! Looking forward to this one! : Digressive
I was about to make this exact post. :P : ChaosNovaXZ
i thought so too. instead we get negative nancey bullcrap from both keff and andrew. you cant take jeff s... : yopinionsux
Imagine disagreeing with Jeff's opinion, as I often do, and doing so WITHOUT being rude, insulting and pr... : Shadow13th
Yup. I just think it's funny that Jeff thinks Halo has "gone above itself" more than any other sci-fi ... : ChaosNovaXZ
Look at his name, dude. : lumphrey
well im not walking up to jeff and slapping him in the face because i totally disagree with him. dont be ... : yopinionsux
Dude, re-read your posts. You're being really freaking rude and disrespectful. Would you speak that way t... : CruelLEGACEY
By: Trippiv x Show Full PostDoes anyone have luck playing the show off android phones? The player crashes every 10 min and I don't see anywhere on the gamefly app where you can listen. Can you post a download link so w can get it and listen without streaming?Nov 02, 2012 7:46pm PDTDoes anyone have luck playing the show off android phones? The player crashes every 10 min and I don't se... : Trippiv
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Yeah, I have that crashing problem as well. : Wuggyboobeaufuf
By: jbug617 x Show Full PostDoes anybody think that this year will be known as the "Year of the Disappointment". It seems like every major release has something disappointing to it.Nov 02, 2012 4:08pm PDTDoes anybody think that this year will be known as the "Year of the Disappointment". It seems like every ... : jbug617
By: SteelRiverSavior x Show Full PostI think that sites like ShackNews serve as intellectual advocates for the consumers that care to develop their own opinions, because it is only with honest, substantial critique that all of us consumers can actually understand the medium on a deeper level. For the people who don't care to delve that deeply into gaming intellectualism, I'm not so sure that it matters whether or not critics are shills or journalists....
But I'm grateful to you guys and your podcast for being honest in your opinions, and hope you never have to even think about stopping.Nov 02, 2012 1:20pm PDTI think that sites like ShackNews serve as intellectual advocates for the consumers that care to develop ... : SteelRiverSavior
By: Berek007 x Show Full PostI just wanted to say that I really respect the way TRS does things, and I'm glad Jeff pointed that out. Dan is absolutely right in his decision to step away from movie critiques. He is still a valuable part of movie episodes in that he can guide the discussion and ask questions.
Similarly I don't have a problem with the TRS crew not devoting an episode to a movie/game which was a sponsor. They are drawing a very clear line, which is essential to their show and ultimately their livelihood.Nov 03, 2012 10:09am PDTI just wanted to say that I really respect the way TRS does things, and I'm glad Jeff pointed that out. D... : Berek007
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Is TRS good? Now I no-longer listen to weekend confirmed I have an opening for a podcast! Whats the avera... : Jenkins22
Now I no longer listen to the show the thread for which I'm posting about let me announce I'll watch a di... : Garnett Lee
I have never spoken Ill of Jeff C. Ever. Please read ALL of my posts, (caps for emphasis not shouting). ... : Jenkins22
I'm not "upset" so much as annoyed by the whole I loved the show but you suck now routine. If you don'... : Garnett Lee
By: mogwaiinjustice x Show Full PostSo after listening to this episode I thought I'd jump on the "don't worry guys, you are all great" bandwagon I was expecting to see in the comments. Clearly I don't come to this forum enough.
To Jeff, Jeff, Garnett, Xav, Andea, the rare and elusive Ariel, and all the other regulars thanks for a fun and entertaining show every week. I think you're all great and that you consistantly put out a great and well produced show every week. As it's been stated, in this industry you are only as good as people value your opinions and your personality and I think (as well as I'd expect all your other listeners, otherwise why else are they here) that you are all above and beyond. Thanks for making it just that much more fun to love loving things.
Peace, love, and pixeljunk!Nov 04, 2012 8:21pm PST
By: Shadow13th x Show Full PostI feel like the sections of Assassin's Creed 3 when you're out of the animus are like visiting the in-laws.
Like, I love revolutionary era America, all the people, places, the beautiful wilderness, it's pure escapism and I love being in that place. But then there's that bit of nagging with emails building up. And it's like *sigh* I gotta get out don't I? I gotta get out and wander around and read these emails and wander this boring place and make em happy. I gotta take a break from where I wanna be and pay my dues.
I mean, you're in a dark, grey, featureless stone temple. And I keep thinking "I could be on a rooftop in Boston face-chopping red-coats with a tomahawk! Which sounds more fun, monotone stone temple ... or revolution era America?
Now, I LOVE the story of the modern day, and I'm really enjoying seeing it unfold, but at this stage I'd rather just have it all in a cutscene, that's more entertaining. Because there's hardly anything interesting about that drab environment and Desmond's outfit isn't even fun to look at compared to how awesome Connor's is.
So, after laying waste to a fleet of ships in a hail of cannon fire on the war torn seas of the coast of America I see yet a notification saying "new email" and I let out a long sigh and think "alright, alright, we'll go see the in-laws for a bit, I've been putting it off for a while".Nov 03, 2012 2:04am PDTI feel like the sections of Assassin's Creed 3 when you're out of the animus are like visiting the in-law... : Shadow13th
By: M.Gibbs x Show Full PostWell, I have to say this whole issue of integrity in the media is troubling. Like many of you I have been listening a long time and the issues raised concern me.
The thing is I'm not sure some of media and specifically Jeff and Garnett get it.
@ Jeff, people aren't concerned if you liked a vertical slice of spider-man but the game turned out to be cruddy. That's not the issue here. The issue is transparency. If people are getting paid to talk about or promote a game it's appropriate they make a disclaimer in the interest of full disclosure that's the crux of the issue. No one is disputing you make your living from advertising payouts the point is you, the press have some integrity and specify when this is the case. This is apparently the case on your other show Jeff so no need to get so worked up your doing it right!
@ Garnett, At least some of your audience want to know your discussion on weekend confirmed isn't being influenced by external factors. They're asking for transparency which isn't difficult to provide is it?
Not commenting on Andrea is clearly doing more damage than good to the broadcast and only appears to incriminate her further.
@Andrea, so whats the deal? Did you dismiss the issue in full knowledge you're guilty of the practise?
Why not admit your mistakes and move on with the promise of full disclosure in future? Everyone's happy and the issue can be put to bed. If for whatever reason this can't happen then I can't listen to people talking about games when their motives for doing so are in doubt.Nov 04, 2012 9:10am PSTWell, I have to say this whole issue of integrity in the media is troubling. Like many of you I have been... : M.Gibbs
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To the best of our ability the discussion on the show has and will always reflect the genuine opinions of... : Garnett Lee
Garnett, I trust you and I trust Jeff. The problem with Andrea is she doesn't appear to have the same dep... : M.Gibbs
Just to add another perspective on this whole topic, there have been a couple instances of really blatant... : DevSword
By: spidlb x Show Full PostMy problem with the framing of the gaming "journalist" discussion are it seems to come from a place that all advertising is evil, and all consumers are stupid. Transparency is good, but consumers really need to hod themselves responsible. First be responsible with your money. Treat all coverage with a bit of skepticism, but don't make it a crusade.
If you have doubts about a game then just wait. You are not going to die if you do not play the game within the first 24 hours it is released.Nov 04, 2012 10:59am PSTMy problem with the framing of the gaming "journalist" discussion are it seems to come from a place that... : spidlb
By: FourOneFour x Show Full PostSo I was like to interject quickly here from all the super serious discussion to quickly say...go see 'Wreck-It Ralph'. It is one of the best movies this year, great story and the amount of gaming cameos makes me want to go see it again just to look at the backgrounds.Nov 03, 2012 10:58pm PDTSo I was like to interject quickly here from all the super serious discussion to quickly say...go see 'Wr... : FourOneFour
By: CruelLEGACEY x Show Full Post**********************************************
Regarding the "plot twist" at the end of the first act:
The discovery that I'd spent the entire first act playing the side of the Templars was powerful. It was the first moment AC3 really "got my attention". But I think Ubisoft destroyed the power of that moment very shortly afterwards.
The reason the reveal comes as such a surprise is because your character and his allies have not been acting like Templars. They have been acting like kind, honest, decent people. At first, I thought Ubisoft was doing something very interesting, and introducing us to a side of the Templars we had never seen before.
But then I saw that it was just shitty storytelling.
The moment you take control of Connor and come face to face with the "friendly Templars", they behave in the complete opposite manner as they did in the previous segment. That is to say they behave the way we've always expected Templars to act.
So it turns out Ubisoft was just lying to the audience during the first segment. They made these characters act noble so that we'd make certain assumptions, then as soon as the truth was revealed, they transform these characters into completely different people that fit their new role in the story. Pretty lame :-/Nov 02, 2012 9:41pm PDT********************************************** **** ASSASSINS CREED 3 SPOILERS **** *******************... : CruelLEGACEY
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This is exactly what I mentioned in my first post on this game this week. They do that thing where once t... : ChaosNovaXZ
I wouldn't say they're entirely noble in the beginning section. I mean, in parts they're painted a bit fa... : Shadow13th
Yeah there's some "all of a sudden now Desmond doesn't trust the first civ people" bit that happened way ... : ChaosNovaXZ
I agree that they are not portrayed as the most noble characters before the reveal, but the Assassins hav... : CruelLEGACEY
Just finished it. I thought Mass Effect 3 had one of the most terrible, disappointing, poorly-written ... : ChaosNovaXZ
By: Rvancetal x Show Full PostAfter listening I have one question.
When did being realistic or pragmatic automatically become cynical? It seems like with everything on the internet you always either love loving things or hate things outright, all the nuance gets stripped from discussion.
I love the games that I love but by no means do I think that everything that comes out or ever a large percentage of that is going to be for me, and stating this plainly and calmly across the internet gets labelled as cynical. Nowadays I cringe a bit when someone uses the term too loosely in something because it tends to mean that they want no further discourse because they have made up their mind about you and your reasons and opinions out of the gate. (He is a HATER why do I care what a HATER thinks)
Also the idea that everyone who is being negative about something is doing it for the ironic cool of it (ala Mr. Yoon) is insane.
Nov 04, 2012 3:38am PSTAfter listening I have one question. When did being realistic or pragmatic automatically become cynica... : Rvancetal
By: fatheadwilson x Show Full PostAnd about Andrea specifically…
I see some people have commented that they've been turned off from the show because of this whole Andrea situation, but it won't stop me from listening to the show. I do understand why some listeners are upset and feel like they've been duped. At the same time I think too many listeners/readers place too much importance on a critics/reviewer's opinions (in general, not WC listeners specifically). We should be forming our opinions based on as wide a sample of info as possible. Then, if one reviewer turns out to be a mouthpiece for a publisher, it's not that big of a deal. Do I think less of Andrea because of what she did? Most certainly, yes. But it doesn't have much bearing on me or my opinions about games because I would never put that much stock in one critic/reviewer. Sure, there are some games media personalities I like better than others and I follow their work. Andrea wasn't one of them, but even if she was and she disappointed me, so what? It's up to me to move on and find someone else to follow on the internet. And yes, I do get that's exactly what some people are now doing in regards to Garnett and his show. He disappointed some of you, and now you're leaving. I think that's GREAT, because you're voting with your lack of downloading, and in the end that's the only meaningful thing you can do to show your displeasure. I guess what I'm getting at is, Andrea's questionable behavior wasn't egregious enough to spoil all of Weekend Confirmed for me. Garnett and crew, I enjoy your show 95% of the time and I appreciate all your hard work.
However, as far as having Andrea back on the show, I'd like the show better if you'd stop having her on as a guest (regardless of this integrity issue). I've tried to give her a fair shake these past few years. In fact I was even fine with overlooking the episode where she clearly had too much to drink and really disrupted the show (so many cringe worthy moments that made it hard to finish that episode). But I cut her some slack because I can remember being too drunk in inappropriate situations, and felt pretty foolish the next morning, as I'm sure she did. However, she's been on the show many times now and she hardly ever adds anything insightful or interesting to the discussion. To me, her opinions come off as flippant and not very well thought out. She's almost always the one responsible for derailing any episode she's on, and not in a funny way like Jeff C or Spicer will do from time to time. Also, I don't care for her voice, but I would never hold that against her. I mean, I HATE my voice when I hear it recorded, so I actually applaud her for rocking her Midwestern accent proudly. :)
Anyways, thanks for the show. I look forward to it every week.Nov 04, 2012 10:31am PST
By: fatheadwilson x Show Full PostHello Weekend Confirmed crew and community. I've listened to the various incarnations of Garnett's show since 07 (I think, or maybe 08?) and I'm a big fan of the show.
*Also, I'm a pretty laid back guy that doesn't passionately argue over much and hardly posts on boards. So please read this post in the most mellow, friendly way possible, because in the end I'll care more about getting back to work than pretending my opinion is any better than yours.* :)
As far as the topic of journalistic integrity in games media is concerned, I don't think you guys need to talk about it at length on the show again. Why? Two reasons; First, it's just not that entertaining. During this segment I found my self thinking, "Get back to talking about games" and I've almost never thought that while listening to your show. As Garnett stated toward the end of the podcast, this is an entertainment show and to me, that segment was far from entertaining. I get that some people like to hear all this "inside baseball" talk, and I don't mind it, to a degree. For some context, I work in the comic book industry and I LOVE to have some behind-the-scenes discussions about my field with anyone that's interested. But the majority of fans I talk to would rather talk about what they love in their favorite comic book, rather than talk about the technical details that I like to discuss with fellow comic pros. As a fan of WC, and if I had to choose, I would rather you guys/gals talk about games/gaming than the intricacies of your profession. I understand it's bound to come up from time to time, and there are times that you can't avoid it when talking about games. But taking a whole segment of the show just seemed like too much time devoted to this (somewhat boring) topic. Perhaps you just need another place to have this discussion? Like an industry focused podcast or set of articles?
The second reason I'm sick of this conversation is, I feel like any time this topic has come up for the last five years on any gaming podcast I've listened to, not just WC, it's been nearly the exact same conversation over and over. That's not intended as an insult to any of the guests discussing the topic past or present, but more to point out that it feels like everyone has said all there is to say about journalistic integrity in games media.Nov 04, 2012 10:29am PST
Why's it in caps well its the title of my piece of course lmao;)
But for real all this how can we believe what the press says. Here's a case for believing them you want to know what the best games are in any given year. It's a list of 7 or so games we all know what they are. Every month you could pick the game of the month no problem.
It's like the nba who can win the title the heat, lakers, spurs, thunder, celtics that's it. What games mass effect 3, halo4, AC3, dishonered, Mario that's it. Next year Bioshock, gears, GTA5, sim city. It's not rocket science games are unlike so many media forms its not up to interpretation. It's a scouting report about mechanics and execution.Nov 03, 2012 7:05pm PDTNO JOURNALIST INTEGRITY WAS HARMED IN THE MAKING OF THIS THREAD!!! Why's it in caps well its the title... : Mysssss
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I must live in a different world then. My favourite game last year was either Xenoblade or Dark Souls, bo... : Muuuus
Yes you are in fact wrong;) there's a difference between liking something, and something being the best i... : Mysssss
Yeah but Sports have these things called STATISTICS which doesn't apply to art & entertainment. : Rvancetal
Yes and video games are "games" just like sports are games. what makes the game run is its mechanics, an... : Mysssss
That doesn't play into individual taste though. Video Games are not an objective experience like a sporti... : Rvancetal
But you recognize the slight in technical polish, and if you read I said it is possible to like it more t... : Mysssss
This entire post was a troll attempt right? Because that is the only way I can work on the level you logi... : Rvancetal
See that's the point your missing here. They're being objective, they're not being crowd pleasing, they'r... : Mysssss
If you are being honest with yourself your favorite games are also the best games, there should not be an... : Rvancetal
Lol favorite rarely lines up with best. Example who's your favorite band? Beetles. Who's your favorite ba... : Mysssss
Nope not trolling just stating the truth that the younger gamers don't yet realize. Yes the title was me... : Mysssss
Story and artstyle are not mechanics. And a games most important feature and measurement of how well the ... : Muuuus
By: smnation x Show Full PostSo I'm listening to the rest of this weeks episode and felt the need to chime in here. Jeff Cannata, please remember that the loudest voices aren't always those of the majority. People in general love to publicly complain and point out their dissenting opinions more than they enjoy praising others.
It kind of surprised me to hear how much all this gaming journalism gossip has affected you. That alone shows how passionate you are about what you do and this industry. You're one of my favorite critical 'voices' around. And sure, I don't always agree with you, but I never question your integrity. Just keep on doing what you do and take the internet banter in stride.Nov 03, 2012 8:51pm PDT
By: DeschainVox x Show Full PostRegarding the discussion around the games industry a few brief observations before I crawl back in my hole for a long winter of discontent.
First, apparently no forum exists for this discussion. Even sites who's members have been vocal on the issue on private blogs have been reluctant to host a discussion on the topic. That is sad to me. I don't think any of us are smart enough and unbiased enough to solve this on our own. Without a place for discussion from all sides I don't see how this gets resolved to suit all sides (though obviously not every person will be satisfied regardless of the outcome).
Second, that we are not unbiased enough is evident everywhere I turn. Responses in this thread to your discussion make me sad to be a gamer. Unfortunately it's not just gamers. Civility and the ability to have friendly open discourse on the most trivial, which I'm not saying games are, subjects is gone from our society. How then are we ever going to have civil discussions on important topics.
My third take-away is that the gaming press is just an enthusiast press, regardless of the level. I understand Jeff's point about wanting to be excited for things. I like to be excited for things as well. But part of what I get paid to do at a job is to do things that are not always exciting. I understand how bloggers and many podcasters who are doing what they do *solely* out of a love for gaming can be willing to not have these discussions. But even those who make their living at this seem to only want to talk about the content of video games, not about the "inside baseball" elements.
The first two (and the second more than the first) are more serious and the third is merely a realization. I appreciate that you did at least have a discussion on the last two episodes even if it wasn't as full as I would have liked. I also thank you for the hard work you put into the shows - including TRS - and hope that this hobby we all love brings you more joy than sorrow.Nov 03, 2012 5:14pm PDTRegarding the discussion around the games industry a few brief observations before I crawl back in my hol... : DeschainVox
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Ashley LOVE the new doo! It totally suits you.
Bridget, I can't imagine dealing with all the stress yBig squeezy hugs...and let's hope that a vigilante killed that whacko after 2 days of pleading for his life
Lydia. Forget trying to avoid upsetting daddy-o. Lay a beating on him
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Ash, you look so beautiful!
I confess that the weather may keep me from attending the wake of my friend and I'm just sick about it. They are now saying that her and her daughter did not die from the gunshot wounds, and they are not saying how. I also wanted to share her obituary with you all. I hope you don't mind.
My graduating class is going to make a group donation to the domestic violence organization. We were a really tight-knit bunch and this has shaken us all very much. Look at her face, you guys. Can't you just tell she was a sweetheart? I know I am biased but I keep staring at that picture and can't believe I'll never see her again.
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I'm so sorry about your friend Bridgett. She and her daughter were beautiful and she does look like a sweet person. This whole scenario is just so tragic.
One of my old friends died a couple years ago as a result of domestic violence. She was shot and killed by her boyfriend as well. He is now doing life in prison. Luckily her 2 children were not at home and are doing well physically now. She, like me, was her mothers only daughter of 4 children. I remember how her mother and brothers were just so broken up.
I have not commented thus far on your friend's story because it reminds me of Erica, my friend. It was just so shocking to us and I understand how you feel. Hugs to you and her family and friends.
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I got two packs of really old school christmas cards at goodwill for 49 cents a pack and wallet size photos of the kids I took myself. So all in all I guess it was about $15. Not bad. I didn't like doing the photo card last year because I couldn't write notes to my loved ones. I really enjoy writing letters and miss doing it since the age of email. I wish I still did it more often.
Hugs, Bridget. I lost my cousin at age 24. We were very close as children and it still breaks my heart every time I see her beautiful picture. She died of natural causes but I understand all too well that feeling of confusion and anger about her being taken out of your life forever. I'm so, so sorry.
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Purdue has named senior Rob Henry their starting QB.
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One Big 12 assistant coach told Sports Illustrated redshirt transfer QB Baker Mayfield is "probably" the best QB on Oklahoma's roster.
Former TCU DE Devonte Fields admitted it is "somewhat" hard to remain motivated while playing for Trinity Valley Community College this season.
Michigan AD Dave Brandon released a statement late Monday night stating sophomore QB Shane Morris suffered a mild concussion and a high ankle sprain against Minnesota, and the situation was not handled appropriately.
An NFL scout told CBS Sports' Dane Brugler that his team is evaluating Iowa senior T Brandon Scherff as a guard only.
Utah State HC Matt Wells was surprised by the "report" BYU DL Remington Peck made regarding a possible medical redshirt for senior QB Chuckie Keeton.
TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline is hearing from scouts that Stanford junior CB Alex Carter will enter the 2015 NFL Draft and become a top-100 pick.
LSU freshman Brandon Harris will start at QB for the Tigers against Auburn.
BYU DL Remington Peck told BYU Sports Nation that Utah State senior QB Chuckie Keeton will be taking a medical redshirt this season.
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Vertigo (dizziness) is an uncomfortable feeling of motion when there is no actual movement. The feeling of motion is commonly described as spinning or whirling, but it also may include sensations of falling or tilting.
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It's a 10 Miracle Leave-In works wonders! My hair is so easy to comb thru and it keeps the frizzies away!
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My sister told me about this product. You spray it in your hair before you blow dry your hair. It makes your hair shiny and helps it stay strong and grow. This product does not make your hair look oily. Great for your hair and smells good too!
I have curly, wavy, processed hair and constantly looking for a product that is not too heavy, sticky, etc...when using this product for the first time, I was pleasantly surprised at how this made my hair feel after applying and after it dried. My 16 year old daughter now loves it, too! High five to it's a ten!
I try lots of hair products, mostly salon grade, but this one perked my curiosity. For the price, it's not a bad experiment. Caution, a little goes a long way. And, this product is mostly an oil sheen that will gunk up your hair more than make it shiny, more managable or frizz free....unless you already have silky shiny hair naturally (this may add some sheen). I would say you could at least use it as a detangler, but it would require more product than will ultimately make most wavy hairstyles behave without becoming greasy or going flat. It's not a miracle, and definitely not a 10. I would give it a 2 or 3 but maybe it will work better for others.
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Displaced LA Noire staff forms new studio
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Former members of Team Bondi and KMM have started a new indie studio in Sydney, Australia, following the closure of the KMM game division last month. It's called Intuitive Game Studios. Read more
'Rockstar Games Collection' outed at retail
by Steve Watts, shacknews.com, Oct 11, 2012 7:30AM PDT
A "Rockstar Games Collection" has been spotted at retail, packing together Red Dead Redemption, Midnight Club: LA, L.A. Noire, and Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City. Read more
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