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A Roseville man was shot in his own driveway Thursday morning, while trying to move his car so his wife could leave for work.Police say the shooting happened in the 26000 block of Lehner Street around 6 a.m. Police say the 33-year-old victim went to move his car from the driveway when he was shot one time in the chest.The man's wife tells police she heard a loud bang, looked out a window and saw her husband on the ground. She ran to his aid.
"Then she ran back in and got a blanket and threw the blanket over top of him," said Roseville Police Chief James Berlin.
Stunned neighbors watched, wondering what had happened as the man was loaded into an ambulance and rushed to the hospital in critical condition.
"I heard him moaning - he was moaning out in the driveway," said neighbor Bob Stieber. "Then there was police cars and ambulances and a fire truck... the works."
Fortunately, the victim's condition has been ungraded to stable.
Police say there still searching for a suspect and a motive. Neighbors are hopeful someone will be taken into custody soon.
"We don't know if this is a robbery gone bad or if there's something else taking place," Chief Berlin said. "But we're investigating all avenues."
Anyone with information is asked to contact Roseville Police.
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GG will fill you in, as we snuck tastes of port right and left, shameless folks
*After due course of a nights sleep and sobering, with my coffee in hand I add this... I wont do it justice so I suggest GG make his own thread*
We started off the night at Gush etzion winery, the fact that for 5 years I passed the junction and never there was such an amazing restaurant so close was my loss but im glad I found it, as you all know I love their cab franc '09.. I wont discuss gush as gab will.
We drove to kiryat arba, we made our way to Kinor David got there at about 9pm, first we got the winery tour, then we entered the cellar.
David Edri is the perfect host, he dots on you and he never fails to amaze and shock. The cellar is pretty packed these days and I have tasted a lot on these after many pleadings and cajoling.
The first taste was the 8 year port, this was the 5 year port bottle previously but now 8 years. Strong and flavored aromas that excites your senses, its hard to describe the taste, its sweet but doesbnt have they honey or chocolate liquor like taste of the other ports.. it has tastes of tobacco and chocolate but they arent so strong as to drown out the ports many flavors and layers
10 year port - this has an amazing smell, like a combination of spices from vasco di gama's storehouse, cloves and cinnamon and stuff I cant even name but sets your mind in a dream. Strong and tasty it doesnt have the strong chocolate and tobacco of the 8 year, more of a spice wonder with fruits galore?
Sherry Andolouisie - As my hearing isnt there yet, I missed this story.. but something about aged 2 years in oak barrels in the sun, cabarnet saviugnon and sherry? It took us 2-3 minutes just to overcome the smell of the garden of eden, its tantalizing and devouring, you lose yourself in the glass, the first sip sets your mind soaring upwards, and when the glass is empty you mourn at having finished off such greatness...
My descriptions do not sound objective, I sound like a Kinor David shill... heaven in my whiteness that since i was there 1 year ago I have begged every one to go... Gab will weigh in and uhh you judge for yourself... or go to the winery or buy a bottle from gab
Next up I begged for a barrel tasting of his young cab franc which is tasting very well, it will sit in barrels for 20 months, will restate on my return in feburary. We tasted the straight cab sav, we also tasted a blend of cab sav, syrah, petite vardot and i think franc?
On prior tastings I had his pinot noir from barrel, sryah + cab franc? pinot noir + cab sav and others..
We spent about 3 hours there, he showed us a 100 year old port? i dunno honestly, this guy has a new surprise every time i go.. and he has a brandy they made thats right now aging..(I wonder about the brandy as well as he has kosher flavored barrels to use)
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I dream frequently about houses. Sometimes I am buying the house. Sometimes someone else bought the house before I was able to. Sometimes I'm moving in and things go wrong; I'm unable to get all the packing done in time. What the heck does it all mean? – Sharon 58, Hugo, MN
Lauri: These dreams are not about the house at all but rather about YOU! Houses in dreams represent the self. Your dreams suggest that there is something you are trying to move on from, since you are packing and moving or looking to move in your dreams. The packing seems to be the problem in the dream, which is a good indication you are having a hard time letting something go from your psyche. Your dream keeps trying to tell you that packing it up and bringing it with you through your life is causing more problems than it's worth. Once you can find a way to let this go, moving on will be a breeze!
Sharon Replies: It's the strangest thing, but since your analysis I haven't had another dream about houses. It made sense to me that I was the house and that something was bothering me in my life. We recently made a very difficult decision to adopt out our two dogs. We had them for five and a half years and were beginning to resent all the work involved and the fact that we were tied down so much. Since they left there is much less commotion at home. I think my dream was about this decision to let them go. I can tell you I will be much more reflective about dreaming in the future. You are awesome and I thank you very much for helping me.
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This is most definitely off topic, however I think it's helpful information. If you've had Chicken Pox you are a candidate to have shingles which is very painful. There is a vaccine available to be sure you won't get shingles. In my opinion, and having been an RN and my husband a physician, we have, combined, seen many patients with shingles... it isn't anything you want to endure, it's extremely uncomfortable to say the least. Give yourself and those you love the gift of a vaccination, the symptoms can last weeks and are debilitating.
I've looked into this. So glad I have insurance as the shot is about $700 or so. Before my next doctor's office visit, I'm gong to call to make certain he has the vaccine on hand.
My neighbor had shingles in 2010...across her back, over her shoulder, neck, check, and even in her eye. They had to keep the drapes closed and most of the lights off in the house. She was absolutely miserable.
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I asked my doctor about getting one at my last physical, he informed me you can't get it until you're 60+, not sure of the exact age but I couldn't get it at 51.
I was at a local Walgreens the other day and I saw they were offering it in the store. From what I understand it is a fairly tricky vaccine to store properly. I was surprised to see it offered in a retail pharmacy.
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My advice may be worth exactly what you pay me for it. :-) For the record I did not stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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Yes you can Sparky you just need a prescription.
This is from the CDC's website:
At this time, CDC does not have a recommendation for routine use of shingles vaccine in persons 50 through 59 years old. However, the vaccine is approved by FDA for people 50 and older. It is available by prescription from a health care provider. Talk with your health care provider if you have questions about shingles vaccine.
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Also, if you get the vaccination go to a pharmacy to get the shot. The vaccine has to be kept frozen and looses effectiveness after a half-hour after its thawed . Most doctors don't store the vaccine in their offices. You still need to get a prescription from a doctor for the vaccine.
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The vaccine for shingles (Zostavax®) is recommended for use in people 60 years old and older to prevent shingles. The older a person is, the more severe the effects of shingles typically are, so all adults 60 years old or older should get the shingles vaccine.
The shingles vaccine is specifically designed to protect people against shingles and will not protect people against other forms of herpes, such as genital herpes. The shingles vaccine is not recommended to treat active shingles or post-herpetic neuralgia (pain after the rash is gone) once it develops.
Disease Protection
In a clinical trial involving thousands of adults 60 years old or older, Zostavax reduced the risk of shingles by about half (51%) and the risk of post-herpetic neuralgia by 67%. While the vaccine was most effective in people 60-69 years old it also provided some protection for older groups.
Research suggests that the shingles vaccine is effective for at least six years, but may last much longer. Ongoing studies are being conducted to determine exactly how long the vaccine protects against shingles.
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Who Should Get the Vaccine
CDC recommends Zostavax for use in people 60 years old and older to prevent shingles. This is a one-time vaccination. There is no maximum age for getting the shingles vaccine.
Anyone 60 years of age or older should get the shingles vaccine, regardless of whether they recall having had chickenpox or not. Studies show that more than 99% of Americans ages 40 and older have had chickenpox, even if they don't remember getting the disease.
At this time, CDC does not have a recommendation for routine use of shingles vaccine in persons 50 through 59 years old. However, the vaccine is approved by FDA for people 50 and older. It is available by prescription from a health care provider. Talk with your health care provider if you have questions about shingles vaccine.
Even if you have had shingles, you can still receive the shingles vaccine to help prevent future occurrences of the disease. There is no specific time that you must wait after having shingles before receiving the shingles vaccine. The decision on when to get vaccinated should be made with your health care provider. Generally, a person should make sure that the shingles rash has disappeared before getting vaccinated.
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Who Should NOT Get the Vaccine
Some people should NOT get shingles vaccine.
A person who has ever had a life-threatening or severe allergic reaction to gelatin, the antibiotic neomycin, or any other component of shingles vaccine. Tell your doctor if you have any severe allergies.
A person who has a weakened immune system because of
HIV/AIDS or another disease that affects the immune system,
treatment with drugs that affect the immune system, such as steroids,
cancer treatment such as radiation or chemotherapy,
a history of cancer affecting the bone marrow or lymphatic system, such as leukemia or lymphoma.
Women who are or might be pregnant
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Possible Reactions to Vaccination
No serious problems have been identified with shingles vaccine.
The vaccine has been tested in about 20,000 people aged 60 years old and older. The most common side effects in people who got the vaccine were redness, soreness, swelling or itching at the shot site, and headache. CDC, working with the FDA, will continue to monitor the safety of the vaccine after it is in general use.
It is safe to be around infants and young children, pregnant women, or people with weakened immune systems after you get the shingles vaccine. There is no documentation of a person getting chickenpox from someone who has received the shingles vaccine (which contains varicella zoster virus).
Some people who get the shingles vaccine will develop a chickenpox-like rash near the place where they were vaccinated. As a precaution, this rash should be covered until it disappears.
The shingles vaccine does not contain thimerosal (a preservative containing mercury).
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Reimbursement for Vaccination
All Medicare Part D plans cover the shingles vaccine. The amount of cost-sharing (money you have to pay) for vaccination varies.
Medicare Part B does not cover the shingles vaccine. If you have private insurance or Medicaid, your plan may or may not cover the vaccine; contact your insurer to find out.
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Related Links
Shingles (Herpes Zoster) Vaccine Information Sheet
Shingles (Herpes zoster) Vaccine Side-Effects
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ETA info for your doctor about shipping, storing and manufacturer contact information -
Zoster (Shingles) Vaccine
Shipping Requirements
Vaccine: Should be shipped in insulated container. Must be shipped with dry ice only, at 5°F (-15°C) or colder. Should be delivered within 2 days.
Diluent: May be shipped with vaccine, but do not place in container with dry ice.
Condition upon Arrival
Should be frozen. Vaccine should remain at 5°F (-15°C) or colder until arrival at the healthcare facility. Dry ice should still be present in the shipping container when vaccine is delivered.
If you have questions about the condition of the material at the time of delivery, you should 1) immediately place material in recommended storage; and 2) then follow your state health department immunization program policy and contact either the Manufacturer's Quality Control office or the immunization program for guidance.
Storage Requirements
Vaccine: Freeze immediately upon arrival. Maintain vaccine in a continuously frozen state at 5°F (-15°C) or colder. No freeze/thaw cycles are allowed with this vaccine. Vaccine should only be stored in freezers or refrigerator/freezers with separate external doors and compartments. Acceptable storage may be achieved in standard household freezers purchased in the last 10 years, and standard household refrigerator/freezers with a separate, sealed freezer compartment. "Dormitory-style units" are not appropriate for the storage of zoster vaccine. Do not store lyophilized vaccine in the refrigerator. Protect the vaccine from light at all times since such exposure may inactivate the vaccine virus.
In order to maintain temperatures of
5°F (-15°C) or colder, it will be necessary in most refrigerator/freezer models to turn the temperature dial down to the coldest setting. This may result in the refrigerator compartment temperature being lowered as well. Careful monitoring of the refrigerator temperature will be necessary to avoid freezing killed or inactivated vaccines.
Diluent: May be refrigerated or stored at room temperature (68° – 77°F [20° – 25°C]). Do not freeze or expose to freezing temperatures.
Shelf Life
Check expiration date on vial.
Instructions for Reconstitution and Use
Reconstitute just before use according to the manufacturer's instructions. Use only the diluent supplied to reconstitute the vaccine.
Shelf Life after Reconstitution, Thawing or Opening
Single-Dose Vials: Discard reconstituted vaccine if it is not used within 30 minutes of reconstitution. Do not freeze reconstituted vaccine.
Special Instructions
Rotate stock so that the earliest dated material is used first.
If this vaccine is stored at a temperature warmer than 5°F (-15°C), it will result in a loss of potency and a reduced shelf life. If a power outage or some other situation occurs that results in the vaccine storage temperature rising above the recommended temperature, the healthcare provider should contact Merck, the vaccine manufacturer, at
1-800-MERCK-90 for an evaluation of the product potency before using the vaccine.
Note: All vaccine materials should be disposed of using medical waste disposal procedures. Contact the state health department for details.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sparky:
I asked my doctor about getting one at my last physical, he informed me you can't get it until you're 60+, not sure of the exact age but I couldn't get it at 51.
If you've had Chicken Pox you can get the vaccine, you don't have to wait till you're 60+... it's a virus that stays in your system and will manifest itself at anytime. I'm sure your physician is very capable, however he might not be up do date on this particular vaccine.
Sherry, double check that your insurance will cover it. I've heard that some don't. And around here, I think its about $200 for the shot, so $700 sounds real high.
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DH and I both had our shingle shots last summer after several friends suffered needlessly for months. We went to Walgreens. I believe our Medicare deductible was $70.00 each. I had inquired from several sources prior and no shot was ever quoted as over $300(at least that was what my old age 69 year old brain remembers). Get the shot and save yourself potential misery.
Thanks FFG...
Well I don't know where I saw the $700 fee. I did an online look and several sites stated $200 - $250. Still pricey but not like $700.
My insurance is supposed to cover it...but even if I have to pay it, sounds better than a shingles outbreak. shudder
And the age requirement varies from site to site. I saw 50 and 60...so it would depend on your doctor.
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Sherry the FDA only has a single vaccine licensed for Shingles that reduces the risk of reactivation of the varicella zoster virus. The following is from the FDA website and the page was last updated on 1/12/2012. -
Zostavax (Herpes Zoster Vaccine) Questions and Answers
Zostavax is an FDA licensed vaccine that helps to reduce the risk of getting herpes zoster (shingles) in individuals 50 years of age and older. Zostavax is the only US licensed vaccine that reduces the risk of reactivation of the varicella zoster virus, the same one that causes chicken pox, and remains dormant in the body after recovering from chicken pox.
What is herpes zoster (shingles) and how commonly does it occur?
Anyone who has had chicken pox is at risk for developing shingles. It is estimated that 1 million or more cases occur each year in the United States. Shingles can occur in people of all ages and the risk increases as people get older. When shingles develop, a rash or blisters appear on the skin, generally on one side of the body. This is a sign that the virus, that has been dormant in the nerve cells, has reactivated and traveled from the nerves and followed a path out to the skin.
Because the nerves along the path become inflamed, shingles can also be painful. Pain that lasts for months after the rash has healed is called post herpetic neuralgia or PHN. For some people, this pain can be severe and chronic.
Does Zostavax help with post herpetic neuralgia?
In people who were 70 years of age and older, and still developed shingles, even though they had been vaccinated, Zostavax reduced the frequency of PHN, the pain associated with the illness. Overall, the benefit of Zostavax in preventing PHN is due to the effect of the vaccine on reducing the risk of developing herpes zoster (shingles). Zostavax will not work to treat PHN.
What causes herpes zoster (shingles)?
The causes aren't completely known, but it is thought that a combination of factors can trigger shingles, including aging and problems with the immune system.
How is Zostavax given?
Zostavax is given as a single dose by an injection under the skin, preferably in the upper arm.
How well does Zostavax work to prevent herpes zoster (shingles)?
For people 60 years of age and older, the studies for Zostavax enrolled approximately 38,000 people throughout the United States; approximately half received Zostavax and half received placebo. Study participants were followed on average for about three years to see if they developed shingles and if they did, how long the pain lasted.
At the conclusion of the studies, researchers found that overall (in persons age 60 years and older) the vaccine reduced the occurrence of herpes zoster (shingles) by about 50%. The vaccine effect was highest at 64% in people between the ages 60-69, but its effectiveness declined with increasing age; to 41% for the 70-79 age group, and 18% for those 80 years of age and older.
In those who were vaccinated with Zostavax, but still developed shingles, the duration of pain was a bit shorter for them versus those who received a placebo. Specifically, the pain of those in the Zostavax group lasted on average for 20 days and for those who received placebo, it lasted for about 22 days. The severity of the pain did not appear to differ among the two groups.
For people 50-59 years of age, approximately 22,000 people were studied; half received Zostavax and half received a placebo. Study participants were then monitored for at least one year to see if they developed shingles. Compared with placebo, Zostavax reduced the risk of developing shingles by approximately 70 percent.
Are there any possible adverse reactions associated with the use of Zostavax?
As with all medications, adverse reactions, including serious reactions, can occur. The most frequent adverse reactions reported for Zostavax were headache and injection-site reactions.
Who should not be immunized with Zostavax?
People who are allergic to neomycin, or any component of the vaccine should not receive Zostavax. Zostavax is a live vaccine and should not be given to individuals who have a weakened immune system caused by treatments that they are taking such as radiation, a class of drugs called corticosteroids, or due to conditions such as AIDS, cancer of the lymph, bone or blood.
In addition, Zostavax should not be used by women who are or may be pregnant.
Zostavax should not be used in children and it is not a substitute for Varivax, the vaccine to prevent chicken pox.
Also, people who are in close contact with pregnant women who have not had chickenpox should talk to their healthcare provider to decide if using Zostavax is right for them.
Should Zostavax be used in people who are under 50 years of age?
No, at this time, there is not enough information from the studies to determine the risks and benefits of Zostavax in people younger than 50 years of age.
Should someone who has already had shingles use the vaccine, so that they don't get them again?
An episode of shingles boosts immunity to the virus and may help protect you from getting shingles again. Although it is uncommon, some people may get shingles more than once. The effectiveness of Zostavax in preventing repeated episodes of shingles has not been demonstrated in clinical studies.
How can I report a serious side effect with Zostavax, or other vaccines, to FDA?
Adverse reactions and other problems related to vaccines should be reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, which is maintained by FDA and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. For a copy of the vaccine reporting form, call 1-800-822-7967 or report on line to http://www.vaers.hhs.gov.
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My Dr. told me to go to retail pharmacy to get shot as it would be much cheaper than done in his office. Good guy to tell me that. We also had no adverse reaction to shingles shot. That very same day I had the Syn visc big shot in my knee and a steroid shot in my shoulder from my ortho doc- didn't wince or cry, but got no suckers or stickers for being so braveThis message has been edited. Last edited by: mamaspoon,
Shingles may develop in any age group, but you are more likely to develop the condition if:
You are older than 60
You had chickenpox before age 1
Your immune system is weakened by medications or disease
If an adult or child has direct contact with the shingles rash and did not have chickenpox as a child or a chickenpox vaccine, they can develop chickenpox, not shingles.
Think- Barbara Walters, hospitalized for a fall and now suffering from chicken pox at age 83. That must be a rare occurrence at her age.
My friend got the vaccine, and still got shingles.
I never accept prescriptions for any product that has less than 10 years of proven safety track record. If it comes down to life or death, I'd consider it, of course. Otherwise, no. I'd rather risk the disease than to risk the side effects of the Big Pharma chemical soups.
The likely reason you're seeing more and more cases of shingles isn't because the population is aging; it's because of the chickenpox vaccine. It's now believed that elders who used to be regularly exposed to children with chickenpox got a natural "booster shot" of sorts from it that kept the virus inactive. Now that kids don't get pox, elders get shingles.
According to that CDC site, I should NOT get the shot.
I've had radiation treatments. I also had chicken pox when I was 27-28 yrs. old...right around my birthday! My son gave it to me...he had 36 spots on his entire body, I had 40 just on my nose! I was out of work for 6 weeks. I had it ever place you could imagine and a few you can't! NOT FUN!!!!!!!!!
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I had shingles about 3 years ago...NOT pleasant.
Dh asked our dr about getting the vaccine but was told that because our little girl had gotten chicken pox even though vaccinaated against them, that living with her was like getting the shot. We shall see.
If you can afford it get the shot. Long term neuropathy is not fun to live with.
Life is GOOD!!
OK, have to weigh in here. I'm not sure if I did have the Chicken Pox (I know both of my older sisters did and one got the shingles last year). SO, do I get the shingles vaccine if I'm not sure that I even had the chicken pox that leaves the shingles dormant in my body? Or is that just asking for trouble?
Inquiring minds want to know....
IR, When I was pregnant, after an initial visit to my ob/gyn where I told her that I'd had all the childhood illnesses - on the next visit I told her that I'd remembered that I'd never had mumps. She looked at my chart and said, you must've had a natural immunity to it then - something about the blood test...
So perhaps, they can tell from a blood test whether you've had CP or not. ???
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You can have a viral test done to determine if you had chicken pox. Your body's immune system develops antibodies after being infected with chicken pox and the antibody test will detect them if they are present.
Spanish R, sooo glad you introduced this topic!
As a child I endured a severe case of chicken pox; as an adult I watched as my elders suffered with recurring shingles... my uncle for decades!
As soon as the vaccine was available, I requested & recieved the preventative "shot".
My Dr warned that my insurance might not pay (it did) and that the vaccine is not 100% guaranteed to prevent shingles.
So I say to the doubters: talk to your doctor.
IMO better to be kinda safe than to be painfully sorry!
Forgot to add: For over a year Walgreens, CVS other pharmacies have advertised $25 flu shot, and $35 for shingles vaccination.
If your medical provider reccommends innoculations and charges more - WHY?
Idaho, I too have an inquiring mind
which is why some posts are sufficiently "interesting" to generate further research more personally applicable.This message has been edited. Last edited by: tessa89,
Thanks for the helpful reminder about the vaccines.
I just inquired at my doctor's office and they will start the insurance process at my next visit.
Tessa, thanks for the information on the pharmacy options too!
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We are both on Medicare and both of us got our shingle shots last summer. Don't know if it makes a difference, but we also have part D prescription coverage.
Flboy, the only thing that proves is your doctor should be ashamed of himself! And if I were your sister I would be looking for a new doctor.
Plus, if you turn on your television there are advertisements all day long about the shingles virus. I think the retired fireman is part of my family.
Even though Medicare doesn't cover it, from previous posts it is covered under Part D.
DH kept after me to get the vaccine. I thought I'd had the chicken pox, but wasn't sure. My sister was around one day when we were having the discussion and informed me that the child in the family with 1 chicken pox was her, not me. Good thing she mentioned it.
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Mamaspoon the problem with medicare coverage supplamental policies (which I'm assuming you have if you have part D insured.) is that the policies and what they cover differ from state to state and also of course from insurance company to insurance company. Our policy does not cover the shingles vaccine.
Can't remember cost of this vaccine but I remember thinking at the time that I could not afford it. DH did have shingles and they were painful but don't believe it lasted months and months.
Whether or not the shot is covered depends on your insurance. It also depends on whether or not it is covered under your prescription/drug coverage or only under your medical coverage. Drug stores can only bill under drug coverage, so if your insurance covers it as a medical charge, you cannot go to a drug store. None of the local drug stores carry it in my area. It is not available at most doctors' offices. I live in a large metropolitan area with large hospitals, they only carry it in their infectious disease clinics for people with compromised immune systems--e.g. AIDS patients, no one else can go there. I finally got my shot from a county clinic which also carries travelers shots, etc. The cost in my area is around $200--I have never heard of a $70 shot anywhere. The vaccine as mentioned above is very hard to store, must be stored in 2 separate components, mixed and administered in no more than 1 hour. It is about 50% effective so it will lessen the severity of an shingles episode. I don't know what effect the Affordable Care Act has on this shot since it covers preventative shots 100%.This message has been edited. Last edited by: 16paws,
After seeing those commercials about shingles, I decided that I would ask my primary care doctor during my next visit.
He quickly informed me that I would NOT be allowed to have the vaccine due to being a kidney transplant patient. Apparently the vaccine is a live virus (on my list of "can't have's). UGH
I saw both my parents go through shingles. My mother had it the worst. She was miserable.
I'm 52 right now...just hoping and praying I don't get the shingles. Guess that's all one can do in my situation.
I was wondering though if anyone might know if working with children for 30 years may have given my some sort of "boost" agaist getting shingles?
That said, I HAD to inform parents that if they thought their child/children had chicken pox...to please not bring them to class! Actually, they were great about that.
However, I never really know if a child was infected during class only to break out the next day or so???
Again...just hope not to go down that path.
"Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened"
I also got the vaccine at Walgreen's with no prescription, I just walked in and requested it, mine was free with my insurance plan (not medicare).
Another vaccine my physician recommends prevents viral Pneumonia. (insurance paid 100%). Also because we eat out frequently and had booked a cruise, he recommended innoculations to avoid Hep A.
Slightly OT, MediCare year-to-date summary of prescription coverage states "Please refer to your Evidence of Coverage for important information about manufacturer discounts that may be available when your total drug costs reaches $2,970.00"
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flboy, goodness! Hate to hear that. I'm sure that was NOT fun!! Yeah, DDT is not a good thing to be around from what I understand. All I know is that I cannot have the vac.
Tessa89, I was able to have the pneumonia vac (since it's not a live virus). I think that one lasts a few years (can't remember exactly how long). My doc should have the record of it and let me know when it's due again.
He's pretty good about letting me know when he thinks I need to anything done. For example, he tells me that it's time for me to have a colonoscopy! YIKES! I realize it isn't a big ordeal, but it's not something I'm looking forward to getting done! I think they recommend having that at around age 50. I'm 52 and so far I haven't done it...but I'm sure it's in my future.;(
"Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened"
flboy, Yeah, I will do it. I need to get through neck surgery first...heal from that then hopefully check into the colonoscopy. It's been a challenging year for me. I had total shoulder replacement in January (that wasn't fun). It took what seemed like forever before I could use my arm. Good news is that I can actually lift that arm all the way up...which is something I hadn't been able to do in YEARS! Then I had to deal with some skin cancer issues (removal)...and that's also been a stinker. Immune suppressed people simply do not heal as quickly as the average person..unfortunately.
Funny story about going with my dad for his colonoscopy (true story). They wanted to check "both ends" with him, so when he was feeling a little woozy, he asked the nurse to make sure to tell the doctor to please do the upper end before doing the bottom end.LOL
Cracked me up! Giggles around the room when he said that.
Anyway, I promise to get it done.
"Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened"
Doctors are a bit lax when people get old.[/QUOTE]
I think people get lax when people get old, they don't visit the Dr. as frequently as they should. If you aren't seeing your Dr. on a regular basis he/she has no idea what you're up to... maybe you're going to someone else, you moved away, etc. Not every patient keeps their Dr. informed. I'm a firm believer in taking responsibility for your own health.
Spanish Revival, I couldn't agree more regarding that people aren't in the habit of at least having a regular check-up. Doctors sure can't read minds so it's up to us (as patients) to inform them of any changes, concerns, questions, etc.
I realize going to the doctor is not something any of us really WANT to do. But I feel it is important to be responsible enough to care about one's own health matters.
I have seen so many friends/relatives who...had they been diagnosed early enough, things could have been taken care of and/or eliminated completely...but they simply waited too late or chose to "put it off".
Sorry to go into a bit of a rant, but it happens all the time! Your health is (in my opinion) everything!
I guess at this point in my life, I've learned that it is better to be safe than sorry, ya know?
"Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened"
After having shingles in June of 2011, I am still suffering the aftereffects the upper left quadrant of my face and head are still numb, the itching is unreal although it is much less severe than it was. I got the vaccine after the out break, I recommend getting the vaccine no matter what it costs.
Today's paper had an obituary of a man that DH used to know. He died at 87 after shingles infected his brain.
Guess I will look into the vaccine.
I did have the shot but had the shingles just the same. Doctor said that my case would be less severe because of have the shot. I took meds for 7 days and had pain for about 2 weeks. First week was the worst the second week on and off. The rash lasted for about a month total and was not that bad a little itchy but with a anti-itch cream not a big problem. Compared to what I've heard others say about their shingles(some lasting over a year), mine was a breeze. So I would suggest getting the shot.
A good idea before your regular scheduled doctor's visit...make a list of everything to ask your doctor or tell your doctor.
Worried about the side effects of a med you are taking...write it down.
Have a new bump, sore spot, etc....write it down.
Trust me...you will forget something!
My appointments are near the end of October. I've started my list. Thank goodness it's a short one! But the shingles shot is on it.
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A list of who should NOT get the shots...
Who Should NOT Get the Vaccine
Some people should NOT get shingles vaccine.
•A person who has ever had a life-threatening or severe allergic reaction to gelatin, the antibiotic neomycin, or any other component of shingles vaccine. Tell your doctor if you have any severe allergies.
•A person who has a weakened immune system because of ◦HIV/AIDS or another disease that affects the immune system,
◦treatment with drugs that affect the immune system, such as steroids,
◦cancer treatment such as radiation or chemotherapy,
◦cancer affecting the bone marrow or lymphatic system, such as leukemia or lymphoma.
•Women who are or might be pregnant
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I had shingles on side of neck and front (on that side) IT was horrible itch and discomfort but my Doctor started me immediately on the same medicine they use for Herpes and I had it for about 8 days and then it started to go away NEVER to return.
Yet. Shingles hasn't returned YET.
You have the virus in your nervous system. Right now its dormant. It may come back. It probably will come back some day. And your doctor can give you that same treatment - the herpes treatment to interupt the illness and something to hide the pain while the real treatment is working.
Disclaimer: I work in the pharmaceutical industry. I have worked for the drug companies that make the herpes treatment and the shingles vaccine.
About 8 years ago I too got Shingles, following four years of caring for my Dad who was terminal. Obviously, my stress levels were high. Started on a Friday with tiny deep red dots forming a rash just under my underarms...I thought it was heat rash or clothing had rubbed..it was painful, felt like burning and I had a bit of a fever. I called the doctor's office on Monday but couldn't see him until Tuesday...he recognized Shingles and gave me a prescription for the anti-viral, but cautioned me that it may not work because you have a short window of opportunity to start it or it is useless. Well three weeks later it had now developed into a worse condition...PHN a condition known as post-herpetic neuropathy. I had feelings like I was being bitten all over one side especially the midrif, would wake up with stabbing (like a sword) had gone through my side...I even had to take tranquillizers for awhile. That was years ago, and now, whenever I get a cold, flu, arthritis acts up, the PHN reappears and will all my life. So, be aware that shingles can look like nothing at all but get to Emergency immediately for the antiviral or you will suffer from the after effects indefinitely.
Flboy, apparently shingles acts differently in different people to some extent. Isn't that true of just about anything? My mothers reoccurred for 40 years in times of stress mostly. My brothers has not had it reoccur over a period of 20 years, though that does not forecast the future.
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I hope this is the appropriate place to place this thread - I think I'm allowed a discussion every 90 days?
On to the topic - I'm kind of lost on how to approach the grind. My goal is a good all-around knife that cuts and releases food well (non-laser).
- Spine thickness is fixed at approximately 3mm
- Taper to 1mm towards tip
I came up with this diagram which views the cross section of the grind from behind for a right-handed knife (viewing from choil). I'm a visual and systematic thinker, so I have to do it this way.
That's the grind I've been using for a while. Am I even on the right track? For right-handed asymmetry, I'm assuming the convexity on the right side has to be more pronounced. This is where I'm really lost - I'm unsure on how thin to go at x/y, and how high to go with a/b. Lately I've been going pretty thin at the x/y, about 1mm, and then having a/b about 1/3 the way up the blade.
I realize this is a giant can of worms and there isn't one concrete answer, but any and all input is helpful and appreciated. Thanks!


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A guy was driving when a policeman pulled him over. He rolled down his window and said to the officer, "Is there a problem, Officer?"
"No problem at all. I just observed your safe driving and am pleased to award you a $5,000 Safe Driver Award. Congratulations. What do you think you're going to do with the money?"
He thought for a minute and said, "Well, I guess I'll go get that driver's license."
The lady sitting in the passenger seat said to the policeman, "Oh, don't pay attention to him – he's a wise guy when he's drunk and stoned."
The guy from the back seat said, "I told you guys we wouldn't get far in a stolen car!"
At that moment, there was a knock from the trunk and a muffled voice said, "Are we over the border yet?"
By Daniel Schwen (Own work) [CC-BY-SA-2.5 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5)], via Wikimedia Commons
There's more laughter @ http://929wlmi.com/shows/show/smokin-joe/#blog


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He was only 5 years old when his mom noticed his first seizure. Since then he's has tens of thousands of them.
Turns out Chris Murto had a mass in his brain. You can see it right here on the MRI. Not cancerous, but it caused 25 years of non-stop seizures.
He decided to undergo a rather new brain surgery -- a surgery that uses no scalpels, only lasers. Could it possibly work?
It's no way to grow up. Seizures every day -- sometime up to 20 of them. Chris Murto's been dealing with this entire life.
"When he was five he had his first seizure," says mom Maura Murto.
His mom started keeping a record of Chris's seizures. 24 years later, now a grown man, things had gotten so bad Chris was having about 300 seizures a week.
They weren't grand mal seizures that knock him to the ground, but smaller seizures that exhaust the brain. Chris even had one during our interview.
"I'm having one right now, little seizure… you may notice it in my eyes a little," says Chris Murto.
His mom remembers the first time she noticed the seizures. It was 24 years ago, but the memory is vivid.
"He was talking to me in my lap and he stopped talking and when I looked at his face, there was a little tear dripping down his face and you could feel his heart racing," says Maura Murto.
Her adorable little boy diagnosed with hypothalamic hamartoma.
"For years people didn't know what they were and ignored them."
"It's not exactly a real tumor, the abnormal tissue will be there. Those cells we know partly through research tick along and trigger off the seizures," says Dr. Peter Nakaji, Barrow Neurological Institute.
Chris got on medication but eventually it stopped working and it got worse.
"My IQ dropped while on the medication. Was 120 to around 70."
"His inability to focus, remember things, do what other kids could do. He was behind in class, behind in development."
"We put him in the hospital because he would not stop seizing. He had a seizure every three minutes. And they became painful, he would grab his chest and roll on the floor and say it hurts, it hurts," says Maura. "And he even asked why doesn't God just let me die? At thirteen."
Chris was desperate and his mom heartbroken.
"Wishing I could fix it for him. Just wishing he had a normal life and now we're hoping he's going to get one."
Finally, now that he's 29, Chris has a shot at a normal life.
"There's a very very high chance I'd say 80 to 90 percent that you'll just stop having seizures," says Dr. Nakaji.
We met up with him at Barrow Neurological Institute for a life changing operation.
"My hopes are that things can be much better than they are right now. That maybe in a slight chance, if we're blessed, we might actually have me seizure free."
This brain surgery will require only one stitch performed by Dr. Peter Nakaji and his team.
"They drill a hole the size of a coffee stirrer into the skull and they put the laser inside right into the tumor then they use a computer and cook it," says Maura.
Basically that's it. A laser inserted deep into Chris's brain. The surgery requires hours of set up to make sure the laser aim is perfect, and only seconds to destroy the hamartoma.
No scalpels involved in this operation, but still it is not an easy surgery. One wrong move -- a millimeter off in any direction will be catastrophic.
"So when I say it has to be precise, it has to be precise. We can't injure this, we can't injure any of this."
With hours of prep work to make sure the aim for the laser is perfect… time to press cook.
11 days later we check back in with Chris and his family. Did this surgery work?
"It was amazing it went as text book perfect, as it could. He had 5 seizures before the surgery that morning. Has had none since so I was just oh so happy.
The charts Maura and Chris have kept for 24 years documenting his seizures are now marked with zeros. For the first time, not a single seizure.
"We're just so thankful."
One month later, still no seizures. Chris is getting off his meds. He hopes other people living with the HH tumors will see his story and see that there is hope.
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