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I confess every time Syd gets a message on FB, I feel like I'm being stabbed in the chest. I'll get over it... eventually.
You're not awful for liking it when Rich is trying. I do enjoy that grace period right after we've had a fight where he's super nice to me and Josh but I remind myself that's not his usual self.
Josh and I had an epic fight tonight and it was the stupidest thing. It's like if I knew that half the things I bring up would be a battle I wouldn't have brought them up at all. I simply wanted him to eat dinner at 5:30 and he refused and basically threw a piece of bread into his bowl of soup, splashing it everywhere and when I sent him to his room he threw the dog gate, tore the sheets off his bed and unplugged his clock. After he came down from his room 10 minutes later he said he was hungry.
I feel guilty letting Rich hug me and even sometimes hugging him back because I feel like I'm leading him on. Really, I just don't want to fight and I know if he thinks there's no chance for us, he'll be an ass to me again. I'm being selfish and lazy about it.
Did you have to eat at 5:30 because you had something to do? I know you have different standards than I do, but I've gotten so liberal about dinner...the kids eat when they're hungry. If they don't like what I make, they're free to cook something else. I will make Conner a sandwich or bowl of cereal instead. We still somehow manage to have dinner together quite often and they did learn how to have manners. Tonight, in fact, we all sat down for dinner together to celebrate Jesi's bday.
Maybe it's because I have more of them...but I just cannot put forth the energy required to get the kids to eat when I want them to. When we were all together, dinner time was just about 6:00 every night during the week. If they weren't hungry then, they were welcome to save a plate in the fridge for later. Choose your battles & all that. We've had to eat at a certain time because we had to go somewhere, and more than once I remember the girls opting NOT to eat and then regretting it later. It was something they learned pretty fast without much more than one comment like, "Well, I had dinner ready and you didn't want to eat then. Maybe next time you'll eat dinner when you know we're going." Or something like that.
Well no, he gets home from school around 4 and has a snack because he's famished, and then he usually has a snack and watches tv at 6:30 so 5:30 just seems like a reasonable time for dinner. If he eats dinner any later then I don't like to let him have a snack too because then he'll complain of a stomachache when he goes to bed. I have it all worked out in my head but logic doesn't work on him. Neither does "learning fast". Letting him miss a meal or snack will not let him learn anything except that it's "not fair" and then he throws a tantrum and throws things around and causes distress and nobody learns anything except that next time we should let him eat whenever he wants. Except then he'll throw a fit about having a stomachache.
I did use that line on him when he came down from his room and said he was hungry. I said I had dinner ready for you 10 minutes ago and you refused it and now you're hungry? It didn't phase him one bit.
I'd love to choose my battles but it's hard when everything is a battle. It's either I look like an evil dictator or he gets his run of the house.
May sound mean, but if he has stomach issues and you think he should eat at 5:30 then I would just make that a thing - he has to eat at 5:30. He will probably throw a fit but I wouldn't let him eat past then, especially with the stomach ache issues.
I am similar to Chrissy actually with dinner, if my kids don't want to eat at dinner time, I really don't care. But Elle has an issue with peeing the bed and if she drinks anything after 6:30 pm, she will pee the bed, so I don't let her drink after 6:30 pm. She drinks a lot all day and I make sure to remind her around 6:25 to drink something. Sometimes she does, sometimes she doesn't but since she doesn't have any sort of medical problems, that is just her rule and if she threw a tantrum, then a tantrum she will throw. When I first started this, she did throw a tantrum. I explained to her the next day that she needs to drink something when I give her the "last call" for drinks lol. She doesn't have a problem with it now.
So in that situation, I would stick with the 5:30 dinner and if he doesn't want to eat, then he won't eat anything else. Unless he has some sort of medical problem, I don't see how it will hurt him. He won't starve and more than likely after a few days he'll eat when it's time to eat, hopefully with minimum fuss. I also wouldn't get upset at him for the tantrum and just let him go tear his room up. That is just what I did with Ky, I told him when he felt better he could come out. For a while, I had to take literally everything out of his room because he would tear it up so bad, but soon he wanted some toys and books and such in his room again and we worked out a deal about throwing things and he stopped throwing things. He'd still make a mess but would rarely throw things around anymore.
ETA: I actually came on here because I thought it was so sweet this evening at Ky's school - we had a PTSA social, basically a little get together for our "school family" and I was speaking to Ky's Spanish teacher and she told me that she thought Ky had a crush on a new girl in his class. He sits next to this girl and he has spoken about her and told me she isn't one of the "stupid acting girls" LOL. Today on the ride home we were speaking of his savings, he has some money he has saved from random chores and I told him he can save for something big for himself or maybe something for someone else, I was kind of hinting at me lol, but he said, "yeah, I was showing S some of my cards and she said she really liked them and wished she had some. I told her I would give her some of mine. Maybe I can buy her a little pack of cards from Toys R Us." I thought that was soooooooo sweet!!! Him thinking of buying this girl some Yu-gi-oh cards lol. It was too cute and it took a lot for me not to go "awwwwww" and ask him did he like this girl. But I didn't. I want to tell DH but I think he will embarrass him so I decided to tell you ladies. I just thought that was so sweet and exciting, my baby boy with his first crush. After thinking it was sweet I got concerned about girls breaking his heart though, the joys and worries of motherhood.
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I'm with Erin.
And you'd probably think I let Conner run my house. But...it works for us. My biggest issue is getting Syd to not comment back when Conner gets in a mood because it just escalates things. Sometimes Conner just wants to say 1 mean thing and maybe shove something and it's over. I let it pass 'unnoticed' because imo, it's not worth the battle. Unless he's shoving his sister. Then I'll speak up and put him in time out.
I don't know if his complaints are for real because he does like to drag out bedtime and I've taken him to the dr. before to make sure there wasn't something going on. But just to be safe I like to stop the eating well before he goes to bed.
I also cut off drinks early but that also ends in a tantrum every day even though I tell him the same thing every day.
Every kid is different and I will say Conner is more stubborn than his sisters were. I'm still hoping that means the worst will be over sooner and his teen years will be easier than his sister's teen years are proving to be.
Oh my goodness, Erin! Ky is SO sweet! I just love that story.
Chrissy, I'm sorry you've been hurt by that guy. I swear, if dbf and I are ever apart I will stay alone. It's all just too much with men sometimes isn't it?
I guess there is pretty fine line between letting the kids run the house and keeping the peace. I usually lean towards keeping the peace above all else. Dbf thinks that I let the kids "get away too much" but i'm like Erin in that if they want to tantrum I let them go on with their bad selves. Yesterday at the dr Kai was eating a banana and Sawyer wanted a bite. Kai wouldn't give him one so dbf snatched it out of his hands and broke a piece off for Sawyer. Holy. Crap. Kai flipped out. He was screaming so loud that I cringed. That is very out of character for him, btw, I think he was nervous about the dr or something. Anyway, I just picked him up and brought him outside to the sidewalk, put him down and told him to go ahead and finish and let me know when he was done so we could go back in. Dbf came out and started lecturing me about how Kai needs to be punished for his behavior. I really don't know what he expected me to do. Of course the first thing he suggested was take away his bedtime story since he saw how upset they were about that after they were fighting in the hallway the other night. To him the more upset they are over the punishment I guess the more effective it is. Anyway, my point is that I try to avoid those types of outbursts if there is any way possible. My mil also thought, when the kids were toddlers, that I set no limits for them and let them rule the household. But now she goes on and on about how well behaved they are so I guess I did something right.
I'm off to my friends party.
And yeah, my plan is to stay alone. Not only are the quirky little interpersonal things you have to work out and compromise on when you meet someone and connect with them, but then for me there's the whole trust issue thing. I opened my heart to this guy and he knew everything about me. I couldn't work with him 'cause he made me nuts, but we were friends despite that and maintained constant contact after I left. I mistakenly thought he could be someone I could lean on emotionally. Now that I've learned he's not and is instead rather self-centered, I not only feel crushed and the whole sense of loss of losing 1 of my very few friends, but I also question my ability to judge anyone. I worked with him for 4 years and couldn't see it? That must indicate there's something wrong with me and I know I'm never going to trust anyone with my heart again.
I'm sick today and I honestly don't know if it's because I caught something or if I'm dwelling on this whole thing too much. I had a nice dream about him and when I woke up, it was like the "break-up" started all over again. I couldn't stop myself from crying hard and that's when I realized I felt sick. I keep getting nauseous but I'm also heartbroken so I don't know. I wish I had work. I don't do well when I don't have something to do. I know I should just go do something, but I won't. I'm going to sit here & just be miserable.
It would be fine if he went off to tantrum in his room, mutter to himself, sulk and whatever, but I have a problem with him throwing food, throwing the dog gate, kicking the dog, kicking me. I don't think that's an acceptable way of handling anger. Then again I'm not one to talk about handling anger.
I'm sorry you're taking it so hard Chrissy. I'm sorry I made the offhand comment about it being a fling a while back. I didn't know you wanted it to be serious.
Does Josh have a place you take him to when he throws things or is violent Kate?
Ky had his room, and I took out practically everything in it until he stopped throwing things around. Also, I am not one to not spank a child and I would tell him he could go crazy in his room but if he came out and I took him back and he tried to hit me or throw something at me, I would swat his butt a few times. He didn't like it so would just go and do his thing in his room. I sometimes would pick him up and take him there. Then I'd tell him when he wad done he could come out and I'd close the door. If he came out and was still upset, I'd tell him to go back until he was completely calm. A lot of times he'd get distracted by reading or playing with toys and I'd hear him playing and call him and speak about how ways he could control himself better and how he should not throw things. I also gave him suggestions of things to do when he was angry - yelling as loud as he could in a pillow or even out loud if he needed to. Beating up his big teddy bear (that thing is destroyed now, he still likes wrestling the bear, the thing doesn't have a head lol). Punching pillows. Tensing his body up really tight. Breathing deeply and counting backwards from 100 to 1. Lots of different things.
But Like I said, I would not get really riled up in front of him when he did those things. And he is proof that with consistency it will get better because all the things you say Josh does reminds me of him and he is the sweetest, calmest child now, he does still get frustrated at when something is hard he is trying to do and he can't get it done. But he will take a deep breath and keep trying instead of going crazy like he used to.
Erin, I don't have a place to take him to when he's being violent. He has books and toys in his room and he tears the sheets off his bed. We really have no safe rooms. And I don't even know when he'll be violent. He'll sit very quietly for a minute when I tell him no to something and then sometimes he'll grab the nearest thing and throw it or knock it over. By that point if I try to remove him he will hurt me. He's only a foot or so shorter than me now and faster. I've done all those things like offering other ways to deal with his anger, and it doesn't sink in.
It's slowed down a lot but Conner used to do the exact same thing. At the house in Willseyville, I had 3-4 spots of red on the carpet from where he threw his sugar free koolaide. :/ He also broke a window with a plastic cup. The only thing we did was be consistant when he threw stuff...but I'm not sure if it slowed down because he's maturing or because of us. Since May he's gotten in a huff and thrown something 3-4 times, but it used to be numerous times a day so I consider it progress. If he's just tossing his pillows or throwing his blankets, I let him. He can't really hurt anything with those.
My friend from elementary school actually texted me last night and asked if I was busy. I invited her over and it turns out she's going through a similar thing with a breakup. She'd also been married for a very long time and said when that was over it didn't hurt. It had been over for so long she never grieved when they finally split and divorced. That's much like the end of my relationship with Rich. I still haven't felt the urge to cry even once about our marriage ending, but this whole thing with the former boss has hurt. She's been involved with someone for nearly a year and he up and decided it wasn't working for him. We spent the night commiserating and laughing at ourselves for feeling like teenagers fighting the urge to send messages every 30 seconds. Even though I hate that she's hurting, it did help a great deal. She was avoiding her family because hearing "he's not worth it" just doesn't help. Intellectually, we both know that. But it's like that quote says, "The heart has its reasons of which reason knows nothing." We both just want this period to end. I still don't think I'll ever trust anyone enough to feel love for them. It's not worth it.
I'm glad you found someone to commiserate with - I know that it must be hard to find someone who will not make you feel guilty about R and instead listen to you about what is hurting your heart right now.
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"Any idiot can face a crisis; it is this day-to-day living that wears you out." -Anton Chekhov
Chrissy, what a bummer that you're dealing with heartbreak in the middle of so many other transitions in your life. What I used to do with painful breakups was to do sort of countdown to 30 days. I'd tell myself I was going to feel better about the guy in that amount of time and with the right amount of distance.
When I was "single", I wasn't someone who spent much time completely uninvolved with some guy. There was always someone that I was dating or at least crushing hard on. So I'm not one to talk, but I do have my regrets about not focusing on myself more when I had so much freedom to focus just on myself. So for you, perhaps this time alone will be exactly what you need. Since you went through the difficulties of striking out on your own, maybe you should see what self-discoveries you can make from being completely alone for awhile.
With your former boss, I feel like I've been there. His behavior sounds so galling and a violation of your trust. My suggestion is to start trying to accept the possibility that he won't give you a satisfactory answer or apology for his actions with you. If so, it'll be frustrating, and you'll need to find another outlet. I hope you find a healthy, positive one. (Love that you've started posting your runs on FB, btw).
Erin, I love that Ky has a first crush. Let us know if he decides to give her those cards. What a sweetie.
Bridget, I can totally relate to the banana incident. DH often escalates situations with B too, when a more creative response could have diffused all the tension.
I'm not a perfect parent, but I've observed that the less of my own ego I put into parenting, the better mom I am. Sometimes DH lets it get to him on a personal level that he wasn't obeyed. He has power struggles with B, and I hear myself reminding him, "You know he's 3, right? You're having a pissing match with. a 3 year old."
B will usually remind us these days that he's "3 and 3 quarters". Tells just about everyone he meets actually.
Katy, thanks for the happy birthday.
And no worries about me dating. I've given it a lot of thought and I really have no interest. My mother, aunt, and maternal grandmother were all single at young ages and never dated or remarried again. I can see myself living like that and being perfectly happy doing so.
Been a busy few days, guys. Haven't had much of a chance to catch up. My parents are here, and dad's cooking up a storm. My brother and nephew just left yesterday, and they've taught Mira the lovely habit of singing about poop. She thinks it's hilarious, as does DH, which is NOT helping.
Off to read....
Happy birthday, Mylah! I'm sorry I am late, but if you get a chance, tell us if you did anything to celebrate.
I spent my only night away from the kids on Friday night, besides being at the hospital at my C-Section for S., which wasn't really childless. I was too hot and too busy to take advantage of it, since I was helping put on a conference, but it was nice doing this conference without DH and the kids there to stress about.
On Sunday we went hiking on Mt. Diablo, and the children kept running ahead and not listening and they were trying to climb through this crack in the rocks and I sped around to the other side because I knew there was a drop-off and it wasn't safe for S. to come through, and my first thought was, "How cute, a little snake curled up--I'll point this out to the kids." My second thought was, "OMG, that's a rattlesnake." It was right at the end of the crack where they would have jumped out. I lifted them up and out and over the snake, and lectured them very sternly about not running ahead and being better listeners when we tell them to wait for us. Thank goodness I saw it, and I'm so glad I ran fast enough around the rocks to catch them.
Ahhhh! That would terrify me. I try to keep a cool head about things in nature that scare me but a rattle snake would be over my limit.
I was chasing my kids around this weekend too at my friend's party. Her mom lives above a beautiful valley on about 50 acres of wooded land. The driveway winds down through the woods where all the other children aged 3-10ish were being allowed to roam freely without supervision. There were also 4 dogs running loose that I didn't know. Of course everyone told me they were "fine" and it was pretty constant that people were telling me to relax and sit down and have a drink and let them run, the kids always do, it's totally safe blah blah blah. I've known this family for over 15 years and while they are decent enought people, there are a handful of them questionable character and judgement when certain substances are available. I came and left early to get out before too much adult shenanigans began but even in the light of day, I wasn't letting my kids out of sight. Besides, it was a beautiful day and I did enjoy running around with them. Although would have been nice if their father had come to help me out since they don't always want to all go in the same directions. Anyway, I felt like the big time helicopter mom, as they say, even Savana wondered why she couldn't just run off with the other kids. My brother was there but he hasn't been very helpful with the kids lately like he used to be when I showed up to events without dbf. My brothers goes through some diva phases and drives me a little batty. Like this weekend he kept mentioning Sawyer's outfit like it wasn't cool enough our something. He had on a onesie with some tight fitting cotton pants and little leather runners. In my opinion the most perfect outfit for an active toddler but my brother kept telling me to untuck his shirt and why did I dress him so dorky. I was sort of wtf about that because he should know me better that I do not dress my kids to "look cool". It's not our family culture at all. We are clean and comfortable. His main friends are women and I will say that most of the women he hangs out with who are young mothers dress their children really stylish. Like, either boutique stuff or athletic gear but very matchy matchy and adult looking. But that's not how I am and he should know that about me and not try to call me out in a room full of people. I don't feel stupid or anything like that at all it's just akward, unneccesary, and he makes himself look silly imo.
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Oh wow! That would've given me a heart attack for sure, Lydia. And I'll be honest, I would've gone all postal on the kids too.
Bridget, loose running dogs and kids do not make a good mix. I wouldn't even do that with my own dogs, and I am as certain as anyone can be that no one will get bitten. IMO, you are a sensible parent; too bad some people can't recognize it.
I'm back too. I had no internet for a few days as we went up north and I made DH leave the laptop at home.
Bridget, I don't know Hayward is too small town for me. I didn't want to say on FB because we were up there visiting friends....but yeah not a whole to do. The bed and breakfast was pretty nice though. And it was fun to see our friends. But really not a whole lot going on up there. And I was scared that I would see a bear. LOL I could see maybe driving up again for the day to see the lumberjack shows sometime in the summer but not sure I would want to stay overnight or anything.
And I did get up very early yesterday morning so we could get the dogs back for the morning pick up instead of evening. I missed my girls so much and I did sort of cry when I dropped them off Friday. Holy cow were they exhausted last night!
So we were up there with two other couples. One lives there and the other has a family cabin nearby. Both are in our adoption group. One already has a child and wow he is a handful. I don't know that i have ever seen a child tantrum quite like that. He's a young first grader. I will say that they did a good job trying to calm him down and providing a very united front. Something went down when he was playing wii with the guys while the ladies were upstairs chatting. He said he wished his dad would go away, told him to go back downstairs, don't talk to me, wished his dad would kill himself and when mom said that was naughty and we don't say things like that, he said well if he doesn't do it, I will do it for him.
OMG. I will say that he was tired and that didn't help and was out of control bringing up everything under the sun....and when he calmed down he was fine and talking nicely do his dad again.
L, I would have had a heart attack I think!
I actually think I might have snakes in my yard as there are some small snake sized holes in the ground....also have bigger golpher holes. But I don't think that we have rattlers up here.
Bridget, your brother should have known you better too! I fully admit that while I don't care so much about brand names.....I'm pretty certain mine will be dressed pretty matchy matchy especially when I still have total control over clothes. But even I know that isn't something you care about!
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Oh Jennifer, I know what you mean about Hayward. When I was a kid we used to rent cabins with my cousins and just swim and play for weeks and it was like paradise for us. A few months before my mom died, my dad suddenly decided we needed to go back up there as a family so we did that and rented a cabin. It was bittersweet because my mom was already out of her head from the meds a little bit and in a lot pain but it was really important to my dad so we all dropped everything to go. We actually drove by the cabins we used stay in. The "resort" is closed down now but man those cabins were small and junky! I remembered them differently. Funny how when you are a kid it doesn't take much for you to think it's spectacular.
That child saying those things would worry me, actually. Does he watch a lot of tv and video games i wonder? My friend's kids play video games all the time and the way they play is always really violent and killing each other. It's very unsettling to me. Was the child adopted as a baby by this couple? Just wondering if maybe he came from a rough childhood or something. That's great they handled him well. I'd be really upset if my child ever said something like that to me.
Oh, and I can't wait to see your baby dressed to the nines, Jennifer.
LOL Yeah if I was into outdoors stuff, I could see it being a cool place. DH and I kind of stand out from the other two couples a bit. They are both from this area....we're from the city. The men like to talk to about cars, motors, hunting, fishing, finishing off their basements themselves....DH and I would hire someone to finish our basement, DH likes cars well enough but doesn't hunt or fish and agrees with me that if he saw his food living....couldn't eat it. At least DH is into Packers and Brewers.
We like things like sci-fy and reading.
And yup, it was video games that got it all started. The guys were playing them....nothing violent this time though. Wii bowling and Wii boxing (ok so violent but not really on a wii using the little Mii characters). I know he also has a DS. And one of the first things was dad said no more video games. Don't know well enough how much TV is watched. The child definitely doesn't handle frustration well at all or not getting his way. I mean I totally expected to hear something like I don't like you anymore or even I hate you. But the killing stuff was an omg moment for me. Don't know what I would have done for that one. And yup he is adopted...internationally but from a country that has pretty good care for kids in the system and they have had him since he was an infant....I want to say like 5 or 6 months old.
LOL Oh and you all will definitely see pictures. I mean if I have already put a few hundred on FB of my dogs....suspect a baby will be worse! I figure most people don't care to see that many of my dogs but they don't have to look. But my parents, my MIL and my sister all live away from me and are on FB and it's the easiest way to share.
I don't know if it will be to the nines....but probably a lot of cute outfits. Even DH walks past some clothes and is like, aww that is cute. And he is an only child so his mom's only grandchild. And will probably be the first one for my mom....my sister wants a baby too but needs to come up with the money to have one. But I don't care about certain name brands or only certain stores....I see plenty of cute outfits at shopko....I tend to shop there the most.
L, eek! "Heart attack" is also the first phrase that came to mind as soon as I read about the rattler. I'm so glad nothing bad came of the situation. Hope it wasn't too hot on Diablo yesterday.
Bridget/Jennifer, I know I must have asked you this before, but have you guys been to the Apostle Islands? I've spent little time in WI, and most of it was spent there, but they were my absolute favorite place to stay (camp) in a 6 week road trip around the US & Canada. I kind of picture Bridget's area to be somewhat similar to the scenery because of it being on the lake and all. We have a lot of nature here in CA, but we don't have the Great Lakes. Lakes Tahoe and Shasta are beautiful, but you don't get the feeling of crispness and vastness that you do with such big masses of fresh water. Best swim of my life was somewhere on the Bruce Peninsula up in Canada on Lake Huron, swimming over crystal clear white rock bottoms. Enjoy what you have up there, girls!
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Browns placed RB Dion Lewis on injured reserve with a fractured left fibula, ending his season.
The Vikings plan to take the Teddy Bridgewater (ankle) decision right up until 90 minutes before Thursday's kickoff.
The 2015 NFL draft will be held from April 30-May 2.
A source told the Boston Globe that Aaron Dobson was deactivated in Weeks 3 and 4 because he "mouthed off" to Patriots OC Josh McDaniels.
NFL suspended Panthers DE Frank Alexander 10 games for violating the league's substance abuse policy.
Arian Foster (hamstring) did not practice Wednesday.
Marvin Jones tweaked his ankle on Wednesday and was listed as "DNP."
Coach Ron Rivera said Darrin Reaves is currently the Panthers' starting running back.
Coach Jeff Fisher announced that Austin Davis will be the Rams' starting quarterback moving forward.
Carson Palmer will seek a second opinion on the nerve issue in his throwing shoulder.
Teddy Bridgewater (ankle) is listed as questionable for Thursday night's Week 5 game against the Packers.
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NASPGHAN is holding its first annual 5K race on Friday morning, October 24th, starting at 6:30AM at Atlanta's Centennial Olympic Park. All money raised will go to the NASPGHAN Foundation for Children's Digestive Health and Nutrition. Register before October 1 to receive the official race T-shirt. Even if you don't wish to run, all are welcome to come cheer on the racers as they cross the finish line!
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Carotid duplex is an ultrasound
test that shows how well blood is flowing through the carotid arteries. The carotid arteries are located in the neck. They supply blood to the brain.
Scan - carotid duplex; Carotid ultrasound; Carotid artery ultrasound; Ultrasound - carotid; Vascular ultrasound - carotid; Ultrasound - vascular - carotid
The test is done in a vascular lab or radiology department. You will be asked to lie on your back. Your head will be supported to prevent it from moving.
The health care provider applies a water-soluble gel on your skin and gently runs a handheld device called a transducer over the area of the carotid arteries in your neck.
The device sends high-frequency sound waves to the arteries in your neck. The sound waves bounce off the blood vessels and form images or pictures of the insides of the arteries.
No preparation is necessary.
You may feel some pressure as the probe is moved around your neck. The pressure should not cause any pain. You may also hear a "whooshing" sound.
The carotid duplex test checks blood flow in the carotid arteries. It can detect:
Your doctor may order this test if:
The results will tell your doctor how open or narrowed your carotid arteries are. For example, the arteries may be 10% narrowed, 50% narrowed, or 75% narrowed.
A normal result means there is no problem with the blood flow in the carotid arteries. The artery is free of any significant blockage, narrowing, or other problem.
An abnormal result means the artery may be narrowed, or something is changing the blood flow in the carotid arteries. This is a sign of atherosclerosis or blood vessel conditions.
In general, the more narrowed the artery is, the higher your risk for stroke.
Depending on the results, your doctor may want you to:
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There are no specific risks related to having this procedure.
U.S. Preventive Services Task Force. Screening for carotid artery stenosis: U.S. Preventive Services Task Force recommendation statement. Ann Intern Med. 2007;147(12):854-859.
Meschia JF, Brott TG, Hobson RW 2nd. Diagnosis and invasive management of carotid atherosclerotic stenosis. Mayo Clin Proc. 2007;82(7):851-858.
Hobson RW 2nd, Mackey WC, Ascher E, Murad MH, Calligaro KD, Comerota AJ, et al. Society for Vascular Surgery. Management of atherosclerotis carotid artery disease: clinical practice guidelines of the Society for Vascular Surgery. J Vasc Surg. 2008;48:480-486.
International Carotid Stenting Study Investigators, Ederle J, Dobson J, Featherstone RL, Bonati LH, van der Worp HB, et al. Carotid artery stenting compared with endarterectomy in patients with symptomatic carotid stenosis (International Carotid Stenting Study): an interim analysis of a randomized controlled trial. Lancet. 2010;375:985-997.
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GLEN JEAN, W.Va. (AP) -- The National Park Service is seeking public comment on proposed fees for a new campground in West Virginia. The Meadow Creek Campground is expected to open along the banks of More>>
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LEWISBURG (WVVA)- Today with a group of others at the State Fair of West Virginia I attempted to be hypnotized. While I couldn't calm my mind enough for it to work I watched it work for others as they More>>
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FAIRLEA, W. Va (WVVA)-- Kevin Bacon, Lindsey Loham, Brad Pig, Justin Boarber, and Swifty were at the fairgrounds on Monday. No, they're not people-- they were all a part of the fair's pig races. Each More>>
The 89th Annual State Fair of West Virginia is underway in Fairlea. Monday morning a new calf was born on the fairgrounds. It was born in the dairy birthing center where they have all mother cows and More>>
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A battle to retake north Mali: Hundreds of French troops drive back al-Qaida-linked rebels
BAMAKO, Mali (AP) -- The battle to retake Mali's north from the al-Qaida-linked groups controlling it began in earnest Saturday, after hundreds of French forces deployed to the country and began aerial bombardments to drive back the Islamic extremists.
At the same time, nations in West Africa authorized the immediate deployment of troops to Mali, fast-forwarding a military intervention that was not due to start until September.
The decision to begin the military operation was taken after the fighters, who seized the northern half of Mali nine months ago, decided earlier this week to push even further south to the town of Konna, coming within 50 kilometers (30 miles) of Mopti, the first town held by the government and a major base for the Malian military.
Many believe that if Mopti were to fall, the Islamists could potentially seize the rest of the country, dramatically raising the stakes. The potential outcome was "a terrorist state at the doorstep of France and Europe," French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said Saturday.
France scrambled Mirage fighter jets from a base in neighboring Chad, as well as combat helicopters beginning the aerial assault on Friday. They have also sent in hundreds of troops to the front line, as well as to secure the capital. In just 24 hours, French forces succeeded in dispersing the Islamists from Konna, the town the fighters had seized in a bold advance earlier in the week, Le Drian said.
Judges cut down Miss America field to 10 beauty queens from group of 53
LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Judges at the Miss America pageant in Las Vegas have reduced the field of contestants to a final 10 following swimsuit and eveningwear competitions.
Beauty contest winners from all 50 states plus the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands took the stage to vie for the title Saturday night at the Planet Hollywood Resort and Casino on the Las Vegas Strip.
The remaining contenders include Miss Iowa Mariah Cary, who has Tourette's syndrome.
Also, still in the hunt are:
-- Miss Texas DaNae Couch
Online activist Swartz dies in NY; faced trial on charges of stealing online articles from MIT
NEW YORK (AP) -- Computer prodigy Aaron Swartz, who helped develop RSS and co-founded Reddit, has been found dead weeks before he was to go on trial on federal charges that he stole millions of scholarly articles in an attempt to make them freely available to the public.
Swartz, 26, hanged himself in his Brooklyn apartment, his family in Chicago confirmed in a statement Saturday. He was pronounced dead Friday evening at home in the Crown Heights neighborhood, Ellen Borakove, spokeswoman for New York's chief medical examiner, said.
As a young teenager, Swartz helped create RSS, a family of Web feed formats used to gather updates from blogs, news headlines, audio and video for users. He co-founded the social news website Reddit, which was later sold to Conde Nast, as well as the political action group Demand Progress, which campaigns against Internet censorship.
A zealous advocate of public online access, Swartz was extolled Saturday by those who believed as he did. He was "an extraordinary hacker and activist," the Electronic Frontier Foundation, an international nonprofit digital rights group based in California wrote in a tribute on its home page.
"Playing Mozart's Requiem in honor of a brave and brilliant man," tweeted Carl Malamud, an Internet public domain advocate who believes in free access to legally obtained files.
AP Source: Disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong to admit to doping during Oprah Winfrey interview
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- Lance Armstrong said he will answer questions "directly, honestly and candidly" during an interview with Oprah Winfrey next week. He will also apologize and make a limited confession to using performance-enhancing drugs, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.
Armstrong has spent more than a decade denying that he doped to win the Tour de France seven times. Without saying whether he would confess or apologize during the taping, Armstrong told The Associated Press in a text message early Saturday, "I told her (Winfrey) to go wherever she wants and I'll answer the questions directly, honestly and candidly. That's all I can say."
A confession would be a stunning reversal for Armstrong after years of public statements, interviews and court battles from Austin to Europe in which he denied doping and zealously protected his reputation.
Armstrong was stripped of his titles and banned from the sport for life last year after the U.S. Anti-Doping agency issued a detailed report accusing him of leading a sophisticated and brazen drug program on his U.S. Postal Service teams that included steroids, blood boosters and a range of performance-enhancing drugs.
Armstrong's interview with Winfrey is not expected to go into great detail about specific allegations levied in the more than 1,000-page USADA report. But Armstrong will make a general confession and apologize, according to the person, who requested anonymity because there was no authorization to speak publicly. Several outlets had also reported that Armstrong was considering a confession.
Family quarrels add layer of intrigue to lottery winner's death by cyanide poisoning
CHICAGO (AP) -- In the week since news surfaced that a Chicago man was poisoned to death with cyanide just before he was to collect a lottery payout, surprising details about his convoluted family saga have trickled out daily.
Urooj Khan's widow and siblings fought for months over the businessman's estate, including the lottery check. His father-in-law owed tens of thousands of dollars in taxes. His 17-year-old daughter from a previous marriage had moved out of her stepmom's home and into his sister's after his death. Then his ex-wife came forward, announcing in anguish that she hadn't seen her daughter in more than a decade and hadn't even known she was still in the U.S.
The slowly emerging family backstory and ever-expanding cast of characters have added layers of intrigue to a baffling case in which authorities have revealed little and everyone is wondering: Who did it?
The victim's relatives hint at family squabbles. And Khan's wife, Shabana Ansari, has endured clutches of reporters outside the family home and business, asking even whether it was a lamb or beef curry dinner she made for Khan on the night he died.
"She's just as curious as anyone else to get to the bottom of what caused her husband's death," said Al-Haroon Husain, who is representing Ansari in the case that will divide up Khan's estate, including the $425,000 in lottery winnings.
Treasury concludes law shouldn't be used to mint $1 trillion coin to avoid debt limit fight
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Forget about the government minting a $1 trillion coin to solve its debt-limit crisis.
Treasury Department spokesman Anthony Coley said Saturday that neither his department nor the Federal Reserve believes the law can or should be used to produce such a coin to avoid a coming battle with Congress over government borrowing.
Some of President Barack Obama's liberal allies have been promoting the coin strategy.
The government has reached its $16.4 trillion borrowing limit. By late February or early March, Treasury will run out of ways to cover debts and could begin defaulting on government loans.
White House spokesman Jay Carney says Congress has two options at its disposal: either pay the tab for its spending or send the nation into default, which would have serious economic consequences.
Critics of Superstorm Sandy aid package say billions are bound for non-Sandy projects
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Conservatives and watchdog groups are mounting a "not-so-fast" campaign against a $50.7 billion Superstorm Sandy aid package that Northeastern governors and lawmakers hope to push through the House this coming week.
Their complaint is that lots of the money that lawmakers are considering will actually go toward recovery efforts for past disasters and other projects unrelated to the late-October storm.
A Senate-passed version from the end of the last Congress included $150 million for what the Commerce Department described as fisheries disasters in Alaska, Mississippi and the Northeast, and $50 million in subsidies for replanting trees on private land damaged by wildfires.
The objections have led senior House Republicans to assemble their own $17 billion proposal, that when combined with already approved money for flood insurance claims, is less than half what President Barack Obama sought and the Senate passed in December
That $17 billion package will be brought to the floor by the House Appropriations Committee, and Northeast lawmakers will have a chance to add $33.7 billion more.
Should doctors and nurses be able to refuse flu shots? Hospitals are increasingly saying no
CHICAGO (AP) -- Patients can refuse a flu shot. Should doctors and nurses have that right, too? That is the thorny question surfacing as U.S. hospitals increasingly crack down on employees who won't get flu shots, with some workers losing their jobs over their refusal.
"Where does it say that I am no longer a patient if I'm a nurse," wondered Carrie Calhoun, a longtime critical care nurse in suburban Chicago who was fired last month after she refused a flu shot.
Hospitals' get-tougher measures coincide with an earlier-than-usual flu season hitting harder than in recent mild seasons. Flu is widespread in most states, and at least 20 children have died.
Most doctors and nurses do get flu shots. But in the past two months, at least 15 nurses and other hospital staffers in four states have been fired for refusing, and several others have resigned, according to affected workers, hospital authorities and published reports.
In Rhode Island, one of three states with tough penalties behind a mandatory vaccine policy for health care workers, more than 1,000 workers recently signed a petition opposing the policy, according to a labor union that has filed suit to end the regulation.
Colin Kaepernick paces 49ers to 24-21 halftime lead over Packers in playoff debut
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Colin Kaepernick overcame a shaky start in his playoff debut by throwing two touchdown passes to Michael Crabtree and scrambling for another score to help the San Francisco 49ers carry a 24-21 lead over the Green Bay Packers into halftime of the NFC divisional playoff game Saturday night.
Showing off his strong arm and fleet footwork, Kaepernick threw for 148 yards and ran for 107 yards. The second-year pro out of Nevada shook off an interception that Sam Shields ran back 52 yards for a touchdown on San Francisco's first possession.
Kaepernick later tossed TD passes of 20 and 12 yards to Crabtree and scampered untouched for a 20-yard score. He led another drive that David Akers finished with a 36-yard field goal as the half expired to put the 49ers ahead.
Michael Vick's 119 yards rushing against St. Louis in 2005 are the most by a quarterback in a playoff game.
Aaron Rodgers rallied the Packers after tossing his own interception. The former Berkeley star and Northern California native threw a 20-yard scoring strike to James Jones, and DaJuan Harris ran for an 18-yard touchdown.
Playoff upset: Ravens beat Manning and Broncos 38-35 in double overtime
DENVER (AP) -- Welcome to NFL immortality, Joe Flacco.
Somewhere up there in the all-time playoff archives near the "Hail Mary" by Staubach and the "Immaculate Reception" by Franco now lives the "Flacco Fling" by the Baltimore Ravens quarterback.
One big throw down the sideline, 70 make-or-break yards on a wing and a prayer -- a high, arcing touchdown pass that soared through the icy air, flew over two defenders, landed in the hands of Jacoby Jones, saved the game for Baltimore and kept Ray Lewis' 17-year career going at least one more week.
The record will show Justin Tucker kicked a 47-yard field goal 1:42 into the second overtime Saturday to give the Ravens a 38-35 victory over Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos. The highlight? That would be Flacco's game-tying touchdown to Jones on third-and-3 from the 30 with 31 seconds left in regulation and no timeouts.
"At that point," Flacco said, "you have to start taking shots. You have to get a little lucky."


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CTD stands for "Climb" (Uphill Mode), "Trail" (riding on the flat and for easy trails) and also "Descend" (riding downhill and difficult trails). The CTD technology is fitted to all Fox models with 32mm, 34mm stanchions and Float shocks.
CTD allows the rider to adjust his suspension to the current riding conditions in no time at all. The shock can be conveniently adjusted via a lever on the shock itself or on the handlebar. This allows the low speed compression to be adjusted. This means that the speed at which the shock or fork compresses is adjusted. In the descend mode the compression phase is open and the shock responds very sensitively. Picture 1 In the trail mode the suspension is much stiffer to prevent pedal bob Picture 2; however the suspension responds to obstacles. In the climb mode the compression phase is almost completely closed, thereby completely eliminating pedal bob and still absorbing greater shocks. Picture 3.
Due to the larger wheels the suspension on 29er bikes is not as susceptible to shocks emanating from the ground as bikes with smaller wheels. Therefore our 29er full suspension bikes are fitted with shocks that have Light-Velocity-Tune. The reduced compression damping means that the rear triangle performs very responsively when, for example climbing on root sections. However the differences to CTD are less noticeable than with shocks with higher levels of compression damping.


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TEXAS -- I was charged by both Prison Call Services and Global Tel Link and realized they are one and the same though Global Tel Link tells you that PCS is a fraud, at one point one of their reps told me to go back to PCS because it would save me money. Both took my money but charged services fees and there are hidden fees even if you don't answer the call. You put money in the account and it can be gone in one short phone call and they immediately demand more. I added money one day but that same day, my niece was released so I called and canceled it but they threatened me on the phone demanding to know why I was canceling as if I didn't have a right as a consumer to cancel an unneeded service. But I had filed a fraud claim against PCS, signed up with Global Tel Link and "somehow" they were able to get my money from PCS for a fee of course. Wells Fargo further lost me money because they claimed that PCS was legitimate although their phone numbers do not work. Global Tel then pretends to be saving you.
So I canceled since she was released and for a few days the money was back in my account but then somehow when Wells Fargo investigated PCS, they decided it was a legitimate business so they OK'd the cancelled withdrawal which then somehow voided my cancellation of the Global Tel Link service and the 50.00 was taken out but because of bank procedures, the transactions "dropped off my account" so when I checked it looked like that the money was taken out then promptly returned only to have them sneak it out a few days later. I kept looking for the amount minus the 14.95 service charge for cancellation and kept searching for 50.00 that I was short. Finally after my daughter was arrested again and she was able to call me, they announce on the call my balance! I go to my account and sure enough they had kept the 50.00 and if she hadn't been picked up, the money would have stayed in there past the 90 day refund period and I would have lost it all together.
Not only is Global Tel Link an expensive fraud, PCS is owned by them and they manage to work you both ways: PCS advertises a flat rate and/or less per minute but the number is declared no good by Global Tel Link and they step in take the rest of what you gave to PCS and charge you service charges, a long distance rate, a unanswered call charge...on and on. Plus trying to stop payment on PCS just got me an email threat saying they could charge me 3 times what I owed if I went to the bank! And then the bank sees that Global Tel Link was used at one time and they didn't even check out PCS so they said the 50.00 Global Tel Link used plus charges was legitimate and let it go through even though I had canceled it and had not used any calls against the 50.00. It is a racket, it is government sanctioned, it is a monopoly and it seems we have no recourse EXCEPT I am a writer and I am going to spend the rest of my days harassing my senator and congress person for reform.
The prison system doesn't help drug addicts and it doesn't help people while they are in jail so they come out worse than before. It is a money making business and hardworking families in an attempt to help their family members, only get ripped off. My niece is young and suffered the loss of her parents both suddenly and tragically within a two year period. I'm not condoning her drug use and it has been a battle but she doesn't need to be in prison but in treatment like all drug addicts. But punishing the families by ripping us off doesn't help us help our family members. I have given her an ultimatum because there is a 2 year live-in program and she can live with me or my father anymore. She needs professional help to rebuild her life and she needs structure and to be working with people who have experience with drug addicts and their fears. I am helpless in doing anything for her because it is up to her. She may not have hit bottom and she may not make it and that frightens me more than anything. BUT I don't need to be played by a big corporation which makes billions off the prison system.
I need my energy to be here for her when she decides she wants to restart her life. I don't need to be ripped off as if I deserve to be treated like a brainless twit who has money lying around for these racketeers to bully and rip off. None of us deserve that, regardless of who or why a family member is in prison. The prison system helps no one, and our judgment of people who have fallen into drug use is unfair since we don't have a clue what brought that about. And God help the innocent who get arrested and their families have no money nor understanding of how to fight for them or have the means to even figure out how to get help. I am ashamed of America right now. There is no compassion for the poor and as needed services are erased, more people will fall into despair and into jail. And as Global Tel Link takes money hand over fist, you can bet they pay no taxes. If you read this, and you find yourself in this same situation, speak out, be a pest to your congress people, call the White House, your Governor, don't stop being loud and clear about the changes we need. In silence, we will fail our children.
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Pentonia Mason on 2013-11-09:
Global tel link is a ripoff they just stole 50 dollars from me. I made a 50 dollar deposit and they claim the money is not available and the money was clearly deducted from my bank account.
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How crazy does this sound??? A few weeks ago I added minutes/funds to my phone and only received one call from the correctional facility. For personal reasons I changed my number (same phone company). Clearly I had close to 20 dollars left in my account, which I paid with MY CREDIT CARD. This is after the phone call I had just received and the ridiculous fee they charge you EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU ADD MONEY TO YOUR ACCOUNT. After changing my number I called to have MY MONEY/FUNDS transferred to my new number. Let's not omit the fact that getting a hold of these people, especially when you are at work is extremely difficult; shame on you if you miss the call. The first time they returned my call the representative said that it would be transferred as a one time courtesy because they normally did not do that. WHY??? You are paying for a service correct??? OK, well I thought it was done and over with and I was going to be able to use the my remaining balance. After all, that is what the operator told me. A few days ago I got a phone call from the correctional facility and it did not come through. I had no money in my account. I thought it was some sort of mistake so here I go again. I called them last Friday and as usual got their automated call back center. Got a call back and re-explained my situation. The operator clearly mentioned it should have been done but they had made some sort of mistake and the transaction never went through. Funny how when they take your money they never make any mistakes. So, she puts me on hold and tells me that her supervisor is the only one with the authority to do that and to wait while this is being processed. Then out of nowhere, I get an answering machine that tells me that no one is available to take my call and to call back later. What a freaking joke! I get hung up on!!!! Wow! Seriously, if they are not going to do it why even make you waste your time? So I called today again and I get the biggest A-hole on the phone to tell me that no there had the authority to promise me anything and that they won't even do it as a one time courtesy because they took that away too. Then on top of that he adds insult to injury and tells me that I paid them the money and that now it is theirs and they can do with it whatever they please!!!! Are you kidding me?! How can you pay for a service/item/product and then once you pay you don't get anything in return, zero, nothing??? Is that even legal? It's not like I changed cell phone companies. Why don't they advice you of their policy in writing to begin with? to know what to expect in case things like this happen? I was so upset I just told the jerk to keep my money and hung up. I wish there was someone regulating such unscrupulous & unethical companies and make them revise their stupid and ridiculous policies. How easy is it to just steal someone's money nowadays? They are no better than any pickpocket out in the streets. Whatever happenend to keeping your customer happy???
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Anonymous on 2009-10-19:
Save yourself the headache and write letters.
PepperElf on 2009-10-20:
Perhaps now's the time to invest in some of those ForeverStamps.
Letter writing is the best option since you know the company isn't going to change policy any time soon.
As of right now... phones aren't on the list of human rights. They're conveniences, but they're not guaranteed rights for anyone in the world
Whoadi on 2012-05-05:
@LadyScot, so are you saying the family members should also be punished and disrespected, robbed and humiliated because one of their family members broke the law?
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ALABAMA -- I've been using Global Tel Link for about a month to get calls on my cell phone from my fiance. The costs of each call is $2.50 per phone call and the phone calls are 15 minutes long. I only add money via Western Union which is a $10.95 sending fee. Talk about expensive.
Well, I hadn't had a problem out of the phone calls until about a week ago. Now, when I only have about 2 more calls left, the automated recording tells me I have a low balance and then I just count the last two. This was our 1 call after hearing the low balance recording. We heard something pick up, kind of like when you're on the house phone and someone picks up to listen to your phone call...but I was on a cell phone.
On my fiance's end, he heard a strange little buzzing sound. We've concluded that is when the jail picks up to listen in to your calls. Well, then all of a sudden I hear "3 way call detected" and there goes my $2.50 phone call. Boy was I mad. I called customer service immediately and explained that I don't even have 3 way calling on my cell phone. The customer service lady explained that (and this is important) GLOBAL TEL LINK DOES NOT GUARANTEE CALLS TO CELL PHONES. So, I asked to speak to her supervisor. While I was on hold (since every time I'm on hold it's for about 20 minutes no matter what it is), I pulled up their website and read the ENTIRE thing. And not one time did I read that there was no guarantee for cell phone. Oh, I was mad. But, I did not show I was mad, just disappointed. Instead of getting a supervisor, I got an answering machine. Very unprofessional, but whatever.
I left a message explaining that the woman I spoke with was very helpful but I would like to know why there is no guarantee for cell phones through their company but it was not in any recording, on the website, or even in any fine print. I left my number and requested them to call back (I said please). I didn't receive a call back, which upset me. But after I received my 2nd call and knew I didn't have minutes anymore, I went to do another Western Union (because like most of you who used Global Tel Link, it's the ONLY option if you want to speak with someone incarcerated) and added $20 to my account. Now, if my math is correct, and I aced math all my life, that's 8 phone calls.
Well, I never called customer service back and even though I felt so upset at the time, I refuse to complain about this service because I have now received 27 phone calls without making any more payments and it still hasn't told me that I have a low balance.
Now, as to whether they are going to contact me and tell me my balance is $-100 sometime down the road is another story. but, the great thing about that is...my phone is not in my name, it's prepaid; the account is for my prepaid phone...I'll just change my number and they can eat the bill. haha.
So, maybe you can try to call customer service and be very polite but very displeased with the service and let them know on the answering machine what's going on and ASK NICELY for a return phone call. And if they call you back instead of doing whatever it was they did to my account that has given me all these phone calls, then just tell them they'll return your money or you're calling corporate and going well above their head. Oh, and ask for the supervisor's name...that'll probably help him/her to make the decision of giving you your money back instead of trying to make you go away.
Hope this helps someone else like it did my fiance and me.
PS - sorry your family/friends are incarcerated. I know how hard it is, now.
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Gail on 2011-06-28:
Wow I wish my calls from my boyfriend was 2.50 a call. He called me one night and the balance was 5.00 I figured that we should have at least a couple of minutes to talk...so I accepted the call, as soon as it was connected it said we had 60 seconds left on the call!!! Normally a 15 minute call cost over 10.00 but 5.00 for one minute, OUTRAGIOUS!!! I am very thankful to be able to talk to him, but the cost is going to kill me, and it is unfair the rates they can charge and get away with it.
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VERY COSTLY collect call Inmate charges!! Costing $25 a day for 2 calls
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I have a family member in jail and I am using Global Tel Link for her collect calls to me. When I first started the account $25 would get her at least 1-2 calls a day for 3 days. Over the past few weeks I started added $50 because it takes forever to go through all the instructions to add the money with your credit card. Well, once I started putting $50 on the account the money went even quicker with her not changing her call routine. It turned into every 3 days it was another $50. Well I went back to putting $25 on the phone and yesterday I put $25 on the phone when she called. She called back in the evening and GTL said I had to add MORE money to accept the call. That was $50 in one day for 2 calls. I called GTL today and what they told me was it cost $8.34 for a 20 minute call but the jail only allows 15 minute calls. They charge $9.50 to add $50 and $4.75 to add $25 every time you add money. I was also told that if an inmate or loved one is trying to call you collect and you don't answer for instance they call 2-3 times back to back then GTL will hold the money on the account for 5 minutes for each time someone calls and you don't pick up. So if you happen to pick up on the 3rd call then the GTL message will say "you have a collect call and need to add money to accept." This to me is very very hard to keep track of and it has now turned into every time I get a call from my family member I am adding money even though my family member has started calling only 2-3 times a week now. This entire operation really is a rip-off.
I still have no idea why I am being charged $8.34 per 20 minute call when inmates have a 15 minute limit. If anyone knows a company to use for collect inmate calls please let me know.
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lordgreg_ on 2012-01-18:
This company is a rip off. When I put $25.00 on the account I get disconnected and charged for the call. When my inmate wife calls me back I am told I have either $17.35 or $18.35 left, and this is before I even get to talk to her. This happens each and every time.
gerry on 2012-02-09:
I will just add my 3cents, I get calls from ny to Florida and go through same routine and charges. they have us behind a barrel. I have contact fcc and communications dept, its like talking or writing to the senate, sorry, nothing we can do.
we need to get our loved ones to stay on outside or start using the .45 cent stamp. my loved one last time in, mci was in charge, I spent over 3000.00 on calls if not more. good luck to all.
heck on 2013-10-17:
This company it is a Rip off!!...DO NOT USED This company
Krissy on 2013-10-29:
Just reading this is getting my BLOOD BOILING! My son was unfortunately in jail for 2 days, and nobody helped him to understanding the phone system. I too had to create an account just for my son to call me. Whatever happened to "will you accept a collect call?" I guess that's old school and now there's companies that are created, just like this one, to RIP PEOPLE OFF! Apparently he didn't wait long enough for us to "accept" the phone call, so he thought that we were hanging up on HIM! For 2 days, he thought that none of his family members cared about him. Now this is my son who just turned 18. Mentally, he's still about 15. It was a horrible situation for him, and he was suicidal. We are lucky that he is still alive. When he got out after the 2 days, he looked like he was about to die. No lie. Government is corrupt and so are all the businesses that work with the government. I hate the so-called Good Old U.S. of A.
Donna Humphrey on 2013-11-01:
I have inmate in escambia county jail and you can look online see what youre getting. 2.25 call and 7.95 fee. I looked all over trying tofind what it cost at gtl no customer service and no info. Jail gladly gives you number with no info. Just 25.00 and mumbled about other charges. Santa rosa jail should be ashamed and my friend will have to write letters. I refuse to let them hold me hostage. Santa rosa fl. Jail must be getting pretty big kickbacks.
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Collect Calls from Jail
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I have had a time trying to get global telling on the phone so I can receive collect calls from a loved one. A friend of mine told me I could go to a check cashing place and they would be able to put money on my phone so I could receive the call and they did, they took my money.... come to find out global telling aren't the ones who set everything up.... CORRECTIONAL BILLING SERVICES are.
I have their telephone number for any one who is interested 1-800-844-6591. You actually talk to a person and I could receive call the very same day!!!!!!!
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Poor Service And Customer Care
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FORT COVINGTON, NEW YORK -- I have been a customer through MCI and then Global tel link for almost ten years. I have always paid my bill and therefore, I have always been granted the additional calls. Well, although MCI was very costly, I always received my calls. Global Tel link has only sent me one bill in nearly a year. I have had many blocks on my line and I have never been given a straight answer for when my bill is due. I was told "you will have calls taken for late payments, for early payments" (yes! I paid early and an over payment therefore, I was not granted additional calls!) How can people use this company when it takes no less than an hour to speak to a person who never can give you a straight answer and the supervisors do not speak to you. I have requested a copy of their policy, but have never seen one they keep telling me that they know the policy therefore, I have no reason to know it! I have been taken from over twenty calls a month to four because I paid a day early in Dec. and my husband called the day my bill was due. I owed $3.32 and they took all my calls except four them. I was never notified that this was happening!
I called when the block was put on my line and was told that I was irresponsible! I paid when I was told to do so through calling the company for a date my bill was due because I never got a bill. I paid the bill and was told I would have to pay two months on time to increase my plan by three calls per month. I did so for January and Feb. I called on March 1 and was told that I show a credit on my bill and they are not a bank therefore, I can not increase my calls I must pay only the amount due on the date it is due. I must wait and pay two more months on time and not over to increase! I asked for the supervisor only to get another customer service rep. who then tells me that they don't count January because my error occurred in Dec as a positive payment therefore, I have to wait until the end of April to be considered. I then asked why I have gotten two answers and she told me not to worry they know the policy and I am not going to get any more calls for at least two months! I am a mother of four and work full time my husband is 6 hours away our calls are what keep us connected because I can't get there often.
How can they justify keeping a family apart like this? I know I am not the only one this has happened to and I know I am not the only one who has spent three hours on the phone begging for our rights to communicate with loved ones. Why can't we find a company that will treat inmate families like any other customers and not like we are deserving of poor treatment and disrespect? In Nov. customers received a letter stating that they were going to $100 worth of calls a month. Once you reach the $100 limit you must pay or your line would be blocked. I asked why my line was blocked in Dec with this new plan they simply stated that the plan did not go through, but I never received a letter stating that and neither did anyone else I have spoken to. I think it is time the legal system step in an help the families to be righted for once. I also want to state that when this company took over I have a credit of $113.00 and moved. I had a new number so they made me send a fax to request a refund I have called and called and they claimed to have received the fax from June 07, and yet here we are Feb 08 and still no refund.
They owe me yet I am being punished! What a joke! We need help from a respectable phone company! I am sorry to go on and on, but this is the only place I have found in hopes of getting my complaint to this company. They don't even have a complaint number! The number you call for customer service just hangs up on you when you complain! Thank you!
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Stay away from GTL
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I recently found out that a friend of mine now resides at Gaston CC in Dallas NC. We have been writing back and forth and in order to talk to him I ordered a home phone so he could call me collect. His call came through the first 4 times, my caller ID said GTL Inmate but when I picked up it was a recording saying my number didn't except collect calls and to call GTL to set up an account. Not wanting a separate bill I called GTL and asked if they had a block on my number and if they did to take it off. The first representative said there was no block and the call didn't come through because my phone service was new, told me to call my phone co and request they update their calling database. I called at and they said it would automaticaly udate but could take a week. Now, no calls come through from my friend not even like they did before I call GTL. I called GTL again, this representative said the first representative didn't know wha he was doing but again stated there was no block on my phone through them but tried setting me up for an account. I didn't bite...I caled at and t again this time the representative there used 3way calling and called my number collect to show me the call would go through and it did. Still, his calls will not come through at all. I called an 1800 number that would allow me to enetr my number to check and se If GTL had a block on my number. The recording stated they had no records of any inmate tring to call my number. I called a live person, this time this representative put in my number and said yr having trouble receiving calls from a inmate at Gaston CC? **I NEVER mentioned the name of the facility to anyone** so they do have it in their records that a inmate has tried calling me. Still no calls coming though so I'm calling one more time today and if this will not fix it I'm going to the Executive Director of Billing. I'll update what happens, if anything does happen. Sorry for any missing letters, computer is acting up again.
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Alain on 2011-10-27:
There are numerous complaints about GTL, but I'm not sure you can do anything more than you all ready are unless more than one provider is available for the center you wish to communicate with. Possibly NC Corrections can help you.
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Still waiting for REFUND
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RESTON, VIRGINIA -- I set upthe account so my son could call home from jail at the time I thought it was the only way, Well in January we gave them our debit card number and continued using this company for two monthsto a total of $350.00. The company then changed there poilcy and we need to pay $100 on an account over the phone which then my son could call home again, so we did. From Feb. 26,2010 an March 10, 2010 he called six times which left a balance of $81.72. The Prison then gat a new company and we had to swith (which I might add this company is very good.) On March 13, 2010 I called Global Tel Link to get my account closed and get my refund and the person said on problem 7- 10 days. Two weeks went by and still on refund in my account I called back they said We need to account number for the refund I reply You have the account number, you have been taking $50. a week for it for the last two months how can you say you don't have it. So my husband gave them the account number on his card which has been done before and my account number also She said she would personally take this to the account and billing her self to see that it got taking care of can I waited 7 to 10 days no refund. Called again and the man said I need to fax a letter stating I wanted my account closed and the refund to go back into my account. I hung up and did just that. Two weeks later I called and the Lady said I had giving her a wrong number I said No and you also have the number in my account and on the fax, she had nothing to say again I gave my account number and said I want my money within Two business days after all Global Tel debits the account in 24 hours I should not have to wail any longer for what belongs to me. Today May 4th I still have no refund. So trust me when I say DON'T use this company no matter how bad you want to talk to your family member.
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sharon smith on 2013-05-31:
On March 20,2013 I called in to get a refund put back on my card. Upon calling, I was tokd there was a $5.00 fee and the balance of $17.22 would be ut back on my card within 30 days. Which meant by no latr than April 30,2013 it should appear on my card.
As of this date May 31, 2013, there is still no refund of 117.22 back in my account. This is not proper business ethics at all.
I do expect my refund to appear in my account asap. I think I have been very patient in this matter. And fell that the whole amount of $22.22 should be refunded to me without questions.
Thank you, Sharon Sith
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The BIGGEST rip offs ever!
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This company GTL is the biggest rip in the whole world, I have never in my life been so blatantly ripped off.
Firstly, I was cut off from speaking to the inmate and charged for it.
Secondly, they said the inmate has gone passed his allotted limit or there's a block on my side (I called my phone company THERE WASN'T ANY KIND OF BLOCK), I call bull on that because if I'm paying the bill, WHO CARES.
Thirdly, I now have to put $25-$50 every time he calls and we can only speak for about 4-5min because they charge fees on top of the collect call. $25 goes towards ONLY three short phone calls.
Fourthly, GLOBAL TEL has to be the biggest SCAM out there.
It's typical OUR system THE INJUSTICE of that communication company GTL raping the AMERICANS who already pay through their butts to keep these horrible companies alive.
Fifthly, their customer service SUCKS!! They transferred me to a message recording and that cut me off as well. PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS ALREADY!!!
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jktshff1 on 2009-10-25:
I am sorry but, blame the incarcerated for your problems, not a company that actually helps to support you loved one or friend (ie under contract and paying for the privileged of taking your money. Who cares if you can talk to a person that is incarcerated using our tax dollars to support them? Write a letter. I just wish they would make "making amends" for a criminal to include $$$ restitution or community service to the sentence.
Skye on 2009-10-25:
Shame on you, wishing people to be hit by a car. I can understand your frustrations, but that's just wrong!
old fart on 2009-10-25:
Not only did your incarcerated relative hurt the people that were the victims of his/her crime, he/she made you a victim too...
Don't blame the phone company, blame the criminal....
Anonymous on 2009-10-25:
Interesting how quick the friends of these lowlifes are to call other people thieves.
Eloise on 2009-10-25:
Isn't amazing that this review matches the one earlier this week. Me thinks it is a duplicate! Even the three way call is included!
Anonymous on 2009-10-25:
I always do my best to see the complaint from the side of the consumer but this time I cannot. While I agree Global Tel is being paid to provide a service calling names, wishing others get injured and the like does nothing to help your case.
Since you are such a fan of karma, maybe not being able to communicate is the inmates karma for not being able to follow the law and ending up behind bars. Just something for you to chew on while you are cursing people out and wishing them harm.
Anonymous on 2009-10-25:
You are angry at the phone company allowing you to talk to your criminal, which is a luxury, NOT a right. You talk about raping customers and how they should be ashamed yada yada.
How do you think the people your criminal wronged feel? Do you think they might feel like they wish he had got hit by a bus?
How do you think WE feel? We have to pay to support your criminal and provide all the thing that WE can't afford for ourselves for FREE so they can have access to it.
I have to PAY for my home. I have to PAY for my tv, cable, food, laundry, electricity, water, clothing, college education etc. I ALSO have to pay for YOUR criminal.
Karma...it sure is.
old fart on 2009-10-25:
shayen on 2009-10-26:
Thank God the morality police are here (yes that is complete sarcasm).
The "phone company" does not "allow" people to talk to those who are locked up. The DOC in each respective state "allows it". If one phone company does not want the DOC contract, you can be sure there are many other service providers that will jump at the chance.
The bottom line: GTL is making bundles of money off their contracts with DOC. They are a business and as a business taking peoples' money, they should provide at least halfway decent service. And they don't.
jktshff1 on 2009-10-26:
Not morality police, just honest, law abiding, tax paying citizens.
tnchuck100 on 2009-10-26:
Exactly, jkt!
tkettle on 2009-10-26:
Okay ripoffz take a chill pill. I agree with all the posters that you shouldn't be angry with GTL. Be angry with the person that got into trouble and dragged your butt with him/her into this mess. I too had a loved one in the system and I refused to use GTL due to it costing lots of money. Write letters and tons of them. There is no limit on letters. And remember Karma isn't a good thing so you better watch what you say.
Anonymous on 2009-10-26:
Shaven, we get that the DOC allows the LUXURY, and the phone company provides the service.
However, to make such bald statements as the OP has begs my question: HOW does SHE think the VICTIMS of her criminal feel? GTL raping their customers? What exactly did the criminal do? And rape is NOT a thing to joke about, and to compare a bad service to rape is really in bad form.
The sympathy from me lies entirely with the victims who suffered due to the OP's criminal's choices. I think prison should go back the way it was before the bleeding hearts got hold of it. make the criminals PAY for their crimes. Stop all the cable tv and free college education and make them eat the BARE necessities, no more board games and playground time and no phone calls. Time for prison to be PUNISHMENT.
Of course, he is probably innocent. There are no guilty people in prison. (Now THAT is sarcasm)
Karma is a two way street. You always get what's coming to you in one way or another.
Eloise on 2009-10-26:
I think all the phone companies that provide services to prisons should have an additional tax added to their current charges. That money would provide funding for victims right groups.
MSCANTBEWRONG on 2009-10-26:
DOC allows the luxury at a steep price...if you want to speak with your inmate then you must pay the price. It's that simple. I suggest writing letters...much, much cheaper.
MSCANTBEWRONG on 2009-10-26:
Excellent advice Eloise and LadyScot.
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Globaltel Link Is A P.O.S. Company
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I add $25 every week to my cell phone to speak with a friend that is an inmate. With that $25 dollars, 5 goes to a service charge of some sort and the other $20 gets us 3 phone calls of 15 minutes each. As if that's not already ridiculous enough. We were on our last phone call today when he called me and about 6 minutes into the phone call the spokesman for the company comes on and says that the call is being disconnected for use of three way calling. And then when my friend calls back there were only two dollars remaining and that got us just a little over 1 minute of talking. I have no idea on how to use three way calling and I already know if I were to ever try that it would not work and the phone would shut off. So I called the company and it has a policy of if you have a cell phone problem and the call is lost then no money will be refunded. And yes I understand and agree that if your cell phone loses service or goes dead then no you shouldn't get any money refunded. But in my situation it was the company's fault for the phone call being dropped. Not my phones at all. So I wanted a refund and after having this guy tell me 100 times there is no way since I was using a cell phone to get my money refunded. So I told him in the politest way that I would like to speak with someone higher up. And after repeatedly asking that he did. When he finally transferred me it was to a lady and again I spoke with respect and explained my situation. And she started to "explain" that no refunds were allowed to be given I said, even though it was your companies fault and then she proceeded to yell at me and tell me it was rude that she let me speak and then interrupted her.
So I let her speak. Then she put me on hold after being a total witch about things for about 8 minutes and answered the phone again and said sorry about the hold, was there anything else I could help you with. I let her know she helped me with nothing and used another arrange of names that I can't say on this complain but I'm sure you know what they are. I am looking for another company to use and I would NOT recommend this p. o.s. company to ANYONE!!
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Anonymous on 2009-10-23:
JKT, this has nothing to do with the loved one in jail, its with folks being ripped of by this phone company. Just cause the loved one is in jail gives them no right to rip the family members of, they have every right to speak to their incarcerated loved ones.
jktshff1 on 2009-10-23:
Wally It has everything to do with the person in jail...it's their fault their families are being put through this. While I sympathize with the problems of the family and friends of the incarcerated, I am glad that the various systems get a portion of the funds for these calls to support the criminals, just wish it was more so the taxpayer could pay less.
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Eloise on 2009-10-23:
The cost of providing operator assisted calling (Global Tech Link) is substantially higher than the cost of providing normal long distance. These costs include such things as special equipment, equipment maintenance, billing validation, billing and collections, customer service, and other expenses.'
You also need to add the payroll expenses, and taxes that they must pay. Based on this explanation I can see why their rates are high.
ashnewyorker on 2009-10-24:
I do understand it isn't cheap for these phone lines to work. But honestly, as family member s and friends of inmates, in my county we are already paying 2 dollars a day for the sais inmate.Tere is no reason why GTL should be rude in any way. What kind of customer service is that? The call was dropped having no fault on my being and they refuse to refund the money. We lost about 8 minutes that day on the phone and it doesn't seem like much to anyone whos never experienced a loved on in jail but when fifteen minutes is all you get on a phone call then 8 minutes can seem like an eternity. I still stand with my argument that it is a bad company who does nothing to help or satisfy their customers. And just because someone is in jail doesn't mean it gives people a reason to make money off of them. They need help. So they can one day make it right. idk that's a totally diff topic.
hw293 on 2011-08-09:
This month GTL took 100.oo out of my bank account but I only got credited for 25.00. and 5.oo of this went to service charge.They took 25.00 out of my bank account 4 times on the same day. Because I used my debit card to put 25.oo on my phone line. This apparently gives them the right to take whatever amount they want.In my opinion this is larceny, they are no better than the inmates they are providing phone calls for.Stealing is stealing whether you are a person or a company. They stole 75.00 dollars of my money and I get nothing for it. If I stole 75.00 I would be arrested and charged with larceny. I intend to complain to my State Attorney General repeatly until something is done. I think every one who gets cheated by this company should do the same.
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