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Same-sex marriage creates uncertainties decade after Massachusetts implementation
RFLASH Salt Lake City, UTMay 22, 2014 4:13 p.m.
So, it will become more difficult to say that it is wrong! People don't want to admit that they were wrong!
You know, gay people believe in God also! It is sad that so many people push us away. It truly is! I miss so much, but I won't live a lie for anyone! People go way to far in judging us the way that they do!
Schnee Salt Lake City, UTMay 21, 2014 12:59 p.m.
@Born That Way
" and they should be credited for doing so--not mocked. "
Nobody is mocked for a heterosexual married couple raising kids. The conflict comes from when condemnation is thrown at other families like mine (parents divorced), same-sex couples, single parents, etc.
Tiago Seattle, WAMay 21, 2014 10:37 a.m.
@Born that Way "People should be free to acknowlege the huge societal benefit of heterosexual couples who produce their own offspring, care for and provide for them, and remain together in healthy lasting relationships... this will always be worthy of the highest place of honor in society."
Sure, committed people raising children deserve honor, I'm just wondering how you think the incentives work. Does honoring straight people with biological kids make less people gay, less spouses die, less people infertile, less husbands abusive? Does honoring a hard-working single mother, or an adoptive parent, or committed same-sex couple take away honor from a straight married couple with biological children?
Imagine you see this announcement in your church bulletin this Sunday, and let me know if it seems like it fulfills your vision of honoring biological families:
"Come to the Ward Family Party this Friday Night. This is an event meant to honor and support true families only--heterosexual married men and women with biological children. In order to avoid confusion, we respectfully request that widows, single adults, step parents, single parents, same-sex parents, orphans, and adopted children please do not attend."
Demiurge San Diego, CAMay 21, 2014 9:41 a.m.
There aren't uncertainties, just people trying to find exceptions and wiggle room to equal treatment. If you do business, religious or not, you may not discriminate. Simple. In your church as a church, you can, and that won't change. A hospital is a business. Renting a hall is a business.
Born that Way Layton, UTMay 21, 2014 7:30 a.m.
Every child who grows up believing there is no preferred responsible longterm benefit to committed heterosexual parents raising their own children in a committed loving relationship ultimately is disadvantaged and has the potential to be a detriment to society's longterm stability.
Same Sex Marriage is but manmade invention that blurs the importance of longterm societal stability. It does so with certain benefits and trade-offs, as well. Of much more concern to me is the concept of No-Fault Divorce and casual sexual relations that produce children with no commitment from both parents and have no commitment to each other. The economic, social, mental and physical disadvantages placed on single parents is devastating to us all.
People should be free to acknowlege the huge societal benefit of heterosexual couples who produce their own offspring, care for and provide for them, and remain together in healthy lasting relationships. This is an ideal that many religious people strive for and they should be credited for doing so--not mocked. Imo, no matter how rare it may seem today, this will always be worthy of the highest place of honor in society.
RanchHand Huntsville, UTMay 20, 2014 6:00 p.m.
According to the 14th Amendment, equal protection means that if the government provides benefits to one group, they must provide the same benefits to other similarly situated groups.
Additionally, the 10th Amendment allows the states to regulate the benefits provided by marriage in the state, but not to violate the rest of the Constitution (i.e., they can't violate the 14th, 5th or 9th Amendments).
Tiago Seattle, WAMay 20, 2014 5:42 p.m.
"Spend a lot of time with groups of ss people. Something is definitely missing." "Heterosexuality about loving what is different from you in a very real way."
I've spent a lot of time with gay people and my experience is their relationships are all unique but are generally good, complementary relationships where two good people are better together, just like most hetero relationships.
The loving what is different argument is strange to me too. I think all people are attracted to some things that are familiar and similar and some things that are different. There are a plenty of differences between two men or two women that make a healthy relationship just like there are differences between a man and a women.
In the end though, I don't get the point of your comment. Are you saying gay men should try to marry straight women? Do you think that outlawing gay marriage will make gay people start to love women?
AerilusMaximus Berryville, VAMay 20, 2014 3:37 p.m.
@ Maudine
"It also negates the entire second part of your comment."
Umm..no not really. Maybe I need to further clarify...
All the Ninth Amendment is basically an allowance to add further rights as necessity requires.
If something isn't defined as a right for all by the Federal government then it isn't a right. Therefore if it isn't a right for all then they would not need to protect it.
A state can then define that it is a right for all respective to their state.
Maudine SLC, UTMay 20, 2014 2:28 p.m.
@ AerilusMaximus: The Ninth Amendment to the US Constitution answers your question quite nicely, "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
It also negates the entire second part of your comment.
AerilusMaximus Berryville, VAMay 20, 2014 12:50 p.m.
@ Understands Math
If it isn't defined as a right in the constitution then how can it be unconstitutional?
If it isn't defined then it isn't a right the Federal government needs to protect. If it isn't explicitly mentioned it is up to the states to define.
Inis Magrath Fort Kent Mills, MEMay 20, 2014 10:27 a.m.
For those who lament that this overturned a vote of the people --
From the United States Supreme Court case of Lucas v. Forty-Fourth Gen. Assembly of Colorado (1964):
"An individual's constitutionally protected right ... cannot be denied even by a vote of a majority of a State's electorate, if the [law] adopted by the voters fails to measure up to the requirements of the Equal Protection Clause. Manifestly, the fact that [a law] is adopted in a popular referendum is insufficient to sustain its constitutionality or to induce a court of equity to refuse to act. As stated by this Court in West Virginia State Bd. of Educ. v. Barnette, "One's right to life, liberty, and property . . . and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections."
"A citizen's constitutional rights can hardly be infringed simply because a majority of the people choose that it be. We hold that the fact that a challenged [law] was approved by the electorate is without federal constitutional significance if the scheme adopted fails to satisfy the basic requirements of the Equal Protection Clause."
Lilalips Attleboro, MAMay 20, 2014 6:25 a.m.
Diversity of genders in a union is called "marriage". Anything less is simply living together with the approval of the state. The people who are short changed from SS families are the children who don't have biological diversity of parenthood in their families. It does short change them no matter how happy the relationships are with the people who raise them. Spend a lot of time with groups of ss people. Something is definitely missing. There is a partnership with God that true marriage brings about that ss relationship cannot give. They who set this world in motion created human bodies to procreate in an ideal way with two opposite genders. Heterosexuality about loving what is different from you in a very real way. Does that mean ss families are not good? No, they can be good but they are not the ideal that we should strive for, the same way that single parenthood is not ideal even though it can work for some. Diversity of the sexes is the best for the human family. End of story.
Values Voter LONG BEACH, CAMay 19, 2014 2:02 p.m.
Ooops! I wrote too quickly.
Apparently there is a 3-day waiting period in Oregon between obtaining a license and getting married -- but it looks like some clerks may waive the waiting period for same-sex couples, one saying "they've waited long enough."
Willem Los Angeles, CAMay 19, 2014 1:54 p.m.
A federal judge on Monday struck down Oregon's voter-approved ban on gay marriage, saying it is unconstitutional. Mormons are you watching?Equality for all Amerikans is on is way fast!
Values Voter LONG BEACH, CAMay 19, 2014 1:47 p.m.
Now Oregon.
Another favorable ruling for Marriage Equality. This one will not be appealed by the state and the judge did not stay his ruling. Licenses are already being issued and marriages will start almost immediately.
Understands Math Lacey, WAMay 19, 2014 12:03 p.m.
@greatbam wrote: "Instead with all these lawsuits in the various states I see the LGBT crowd trying to take the back door and force it through the courts."
The correct way to challenge the constitutionality of a law is through the courts. There are many lawsuits against same-sex marriage bans because that's the correct way to challenge them.
Another reason not to go a legislative-only route: because it's incredibly easy for legislation to be blocked by a minority or even by one single legislator. Because legislators do not always reflect the opinions of their constituents. Because in some states, the process for reversing a constitutional amendment can take years, and need a level of legislative support that is far higher than a simple majority.
Because justice delayed is justice denied.
Jeffsfla Glendale, CAMay 19, 2014 11:38 a.m.
I am trying to understand the slippery slope that churches are going to be forced to do anything. They do not have to marry any one for any reason. They also do not have to accept any funds or support the government and they can do whatever they wish. As for businesses...if you want to profit off a society you have to follow the rules. You may not like the rules but it is the cost of doing business. Like paying taxes.
greatbam22 andrews afb, MDMay 19, 2014 11:25 a.m.
It is interesting how I hear a lot of LGBT supporters / promoters on here often say how the country is so supportive and accepting of them and so on and so forth.
If that statement was true then you would have no problem going through the typical manner in which laws are created and changed which is through the state legislatures. Instead with all these lawsuits in the various states I see the LGBT crowd trying to take the back door and force it through the courts.
If a lot of these cases make it to the Supreme Court I wouldn't be surprised if the Supreme Court allows for the state amendments to stand. It is up to State Legislators to make state laws if you want to change state laws you should be going through the legislative branch to do it.
Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UTMay 19, 2014 10:33 a.m.
@Let It Go!
"even if it so be that I am held at gunpoint and told to recant my beliefs. "
It's easy to make overdramatic statements about things that have no realistic likelihood of ever happening.
Let it Go! Omaha, NEMay 19, 2014 9:05 a.m.
I stand with what Laura Ann has spoken. I have previously stated my position on gay marriage and I will continue to do so, even if it so be that I am held at gunpoint and told to recant my beliefs.
I stand with the LDS Church.
I stand with the prophets.
I stand with the scriptures.
I stand with God.
And nothing stops God from fulfilling His word.
Stormwalker Cleveland , OHMay 18, 2014 10:40 p.m.
@Avenue: "Even if your political leaders say you can violate the Consitution, federal law says you can't."
The Civil Rights Act of 1964. Federal Law.
People in the South thought they had religious right to segregation and Jim Crow laws. Turns out, First Amendment notwithstanding, they didn't. If you own a business that serves the public you can't discriminate.
The way court cases and public opinion is moving do you honestly think Title II won't soon cover GLBT citizens?
The First Amendment says you are free to practice your religion. It does not say you can mistreat others or, if you are in business, can refuse to sell to some people because God disapproves of them.
We are already seeing cases where business owners are claiming God gave them permission to be mean to some customers. Those business owners have not done so well in courts of law or in the court of public opinion. Few people want to do business with a bigot.
RanchHand Huntsville, UTMay 18, 2014 9:28 p.m.
Neither a bakery, florist, or photograpy business are religious organizations. As such, they don't "practice religion". They are obligated, however, as public businesses to adhere to the laws which prohibit discrimination.
Jesus may have told the woman to "sin no more", but what if you are wrong and loving couples who happen to be of the same gender are not "sinning" to him? What if?
Think about it.
Avenue Vernal, UTMay 18, 2014 7:44 p.m.
Amendment 1 of the United States Constitution prohibits Congress passing laws that stops anyone from free practice of religion. It says: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"
Even if your political leaders say you can violate the Consitution, federal law says you can't.
@The Wraith
"Are they're christian hotel owners pushing for laws that would let them deny service to people who are renting their rooms in order to commit adultery? What about a restaurant where two people having an affair go to celebrate something? Nope and nope."
The owners of these businesses have no idea what their customers are doing, while same-sex couples usually tell the business what they are using the cake for.
My religion encourages not to judge, and I do not. I simply love the sinner, and hate the sin. I do not celebrate evil and sinful behaviors and practices.
bj-hp Maryville, MOMay 18, 2014 7:07 p.m.
Ranch Hand is correct in that there is no scripture that says one shouldn't be working or assisting sinners as everyone that has lived, is living and is yet to be born shall all sin in some way or another. The problem is that it is decided that if we disagree with their choice that we hate them and can not love them. Yet the Savior came to save all mankind and to allow them to return to the Father but he didn't come to save them in their sins. Those who fail to repent of sin will be severely judged and can not be saved in the kingdom of God.
Everyone makes judgements. Even the woman taken in adultery and brought before the Savior by her accusers. Christ told them that they had judged rightly. Yes, they did judge correctly but for them to kill the sinner they must be sinless. That was part of the Law of Moses that was done away upon the Saviors coming. We all make judgements and yes we will be judged on our judgements and how we made our judgements.
RanchHand Huntsville, UTMay 18, 2014 6:04 p.m.
Yes sir, it can be right and I don't understand why you should find it odd.
@Laura Ann;
Has it occurred to you that the "all will be well" feeling is because God is okay with SSM? Maybe you're interpreting your feeling incorrectly.
Perhaps you're the one doing the mocking. Have you thought about that? You continually spout "god says", "god wants", etc. Perhaps she considers that "mocking",.
But celebrating adultery, fornication, etc. is okay? Hypocrites.
They're just being deceitful. There isn't any scripture anywhere that says "thou shalt not do business with sinners". Not one.
RanchHand Huntsville, UTMay 18, 2014 6:04 p.m.
"Unless lawmakers carve out broad protections for those who oppose same-sex marriage on religious grounds, they see the trend of current court ruling favoring gay marriage as an erosion of freedom of expression and conscience rights."
In your home and your church you can discriminate all you want on "religious conscience". In the public arena, absolutely not.
Unless those claiming "religious conscience" refuse to do business with adulterers, fornicators, murderers, thieves, etc. then all their hullabaloo about "religious conscience" is a lie.
I guess Mr. Brown doesn't like the word "parent".
They're not bigots, Mr. Brown for supporting "traditional marriage", they're bigots for opposing marriage equality.
"Just look at what happened to Catholic Charities, which ceased adoption services in Massachusetts in the aftermath"
-- This is a lie, frequently used in an attempt to disuade people from choosing equality. The truth can be found online. One of the board members of Catholic Charities wrote an op-ed and explains what really happened.
koseighty The Shire, UTMay 18, 2014 12:33 p.m.
"All businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone, no matter the reason. This is especially true if providing a product or service would violate the personally held religious views of the owner to do so."
This is what confuses me the most. I've read your Bible. And find many things like:
"Judge not, that ye be not judged."
"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"
"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."
No where have I seen where it gives followers the right to judge other people, especially people from other faiths. In fact it's the opposite throughout: Don't be hypocrites, don't judge others.
Yet, all of a sudden, it's some cherished religious right to hold judgement over your neighbor and withhold goods, services, and health care if you find them guilty by your interpretation of your religion.
I just don't get it. And I find it more than a little disturbing.
The Wraith Kaysville, UTMay 18, 2014 9:44 a.m.
"It is morally wrong to force anyone to celebrate what they believe is a barbaric violation of God's standards"
Not long ago I had my name removed from the LDS Church's records. I celebrated by having a party and committing, as the highlight of the party, quite publicly and proudly what the bible , book of mormon, and LDS teachings consider to be the worst and most unforgivable sin. To help celebrate I bought food, drinks, and other party supplies from business I'm sure were run by Mormons. Do I see them out pushing for laws to be passed so they won't be forced to celebrate what they believe is the worst violation of god's standards in all of existence? Nope.
Are they're christian hotel owners pushing for laws that would let them deny service to people who are renting their rooms in order to commit adultery? What about a restaurant where two people having an affair go to celebrate something? Nope and nope.
No these businesses will go on helping people to celebrate all manner of sin, happily taking their money. But not the gays, not the gays.
The Wraith Kaysville, UTMay 18, 2014 8:02 a.m.
"All businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone, no matter the reason. This is especially true if providing a product or service would violate the personally held religious views of the owner to do so."
Do you live in America? How can you say this or better yet how can you believe this? If you operate a business you can't refuse service to anyone based on gender, age, race, ethnicity, nationality, or religion. If you run a photography business you can't refuse to take pictures of a Muslim family, or an old couple, or a Black family, etc... Laws in many countries have added sexual orientation and sexual identity to the list. America will follow shortly, and thankfully.
Karen R. Houston, TXMay 18, 2014 6:28 a.m.
@ Meckofahess
Equality for all is a tradition too.
Stormwalker Cleveland , OHMay 17, 2014 11:45 p.m.
Not exactly...
Title II of the 1964 Civil Rights Act prohibits discrimination by private businesses which are places of public accommodation. The Act guarantees all people the right to "full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin."
The Americans with Disabilities Act extends that to disabled people.
Even if your religion says you can discriminate, Federal law says you can't.
Many state and local laws extend protection to gays, lesbians and transgender people. Currently, Federal law does not extend full protection, however court cases are increasingly seeing animus as discrimination and not recognizing "religious belief" as a legal reason to treat people badly.
I predict that the animus displayed about gay marriage will give reason for the government, courts and general public to support adding sexual orientation to the Civil Rights Act.
Avenue Vernal, UTMay 17, 2014 10:53 p.m.
All businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone, no matter the reason. This is especially true if providing a product or service would violate the personally held religious views of the owner to do so.
Hugh1 Denver, COMay 17, 2014 8:41 p.m.
I am in Massachusetts sitting in my old room reading the Deseret News about Massachusetts, "Same sex marriage creates uncertainties..." No, not that I am aware of. Gay marriage is rarely a topic of conversation in media, public forums, or private discussions. Gay marriage is a simple distraction to the Catholic Church compared to the massive damage it inflicted upon itself with the child sex scandals. The author indicates that Catholic Charities and the Knights of Columbus are beloved organizations whose work is so important that they deserve the right to discriminate against gays. Well, that's just not going to happen. I attended Catholic elementary and high schools here and they dished out anti-gay venom without any regard for the consequences of their words. It was abusive by any measure, but it was within their four walls and within their right to do so. Today however, most Bay State residents of all faiths don't subscribe to the churche's view on gays. In summary, gay marriage is a non-event here. You may discriminate privately, that's your right, but not in the public forum. It's not a case of uncertainty.
Stormwalker Cleveland , OHMay 17, 2014 8:31 p.m.
@Avenue: "It is morally wrong to force anyone to celebrate what they believe is a barbaric violation of God's standards."
You are selling a product or service to the public. If you don't want to sell to the public, do something else.
In Atlanta I knew a professional photographer who was a Mormon Bishop at least twice. He took jobs that paid.
Bar Mitzvahs. Legal documenting for attorneys and insurance companies. Family photos. And weddings. LDS weddings. Christian, Catholic and Jewish weddings. Weddings in the nicest religious buildings, weddings in hotels and rented halls, weddings in back yards. I know he shot at least one Wiccan and one Pagan wedding because, while I was LDS at the time, I was widely read and experienced and could answer some questions he had.
Some he found interesting. Some he found boring. Mostly, he sold his services and supported his family and didn't much worry about being offended.
I recently read the owner of the bakery in Oregon is now hauling trash. Honest work that supports his family and does not require him to be offended. See how that works?
Stormwalker Cleveland , OHMay 17, 2014 8:07 p.m.
@bandersen: "One of the great benefits, however, will be to see all our SSM advocates come to the support of our brothers and sisters who want to live in polygamous marriages!"
I would support laws legalizing polygamous marriages. I would not support just legalizing polygyny - also known as "plural wives." Polygamy, or as it is now more commonly known, polyamory, might be better characterized as "plural spouses."
I firmly believe that the biggest problem with polygamy is the hidden nature of it, so it leads to abuse of all sorts. Legalizing it and regulating it would not solve all the problems, any more than marriage laws end all marital abuse - but it would certainly help.
And you should understand, "legalizing polygamy" is a huge button-pusher along the Wasatch Front. Not so much in other parts of the country that has little connection to the various historical issues Utah experienced with polygamy.
MoNoMo Fair Oaks, CAMay 17, 2014 5:25 p.m.
Laura Ann,
We need more people like you in this world.
MoNoMo Fair Oaks, CAMay 17, 2014 5:16 p.m.
Imagine if your only option was marrying another person of the same sex?
That IS the way gay people feel!
Avenue Vernal, UTMay 17, 2014 4:25 p.m.
@The Wraith
"Why are they so obsessed with this one "sin" in their book while they have let all the others go?"
Most refusals of same sex couples happen when they are getting married, such as the Colorado bakery case. It is morally wrong to force anyone to celebrate what they believe is a barbaric violation of God's standards. Selling something to an adulterer is not celebrating the sin. They are customers purchasing products completely unrelated to their sin.
Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UTMay 17, 2014 4:19 p.m.
No it isn't right (at least not in the eyes of folks like you and me). However, it is right in the eyes of the traditionalphobes. I for one don't object if John and Fred want to be lifelong partners and do what they want within their four walls - that is between them and their God. What I do object to is the gay community trying to force us to accept their definition of marriage and family structures. I think society will need to come up with something like a "same-sex partnership" that is recognized as different than traditional marriage but I don't think the traditionalphobes will want to compromise at this point.
MoNoMo Fair Oaks, CAMay 17, 2014 3:48 p.m.
If being gay is SO wrong - why do straight people keep producing them?
God's will?
Candied Ginger Brooklyn, OHMay 17, 2014 3:21 p.m.
Cool Cat Cosmo
"When the tyranny of a few appointed individuals overrides the will of the people"
That is why they are appointed. If they were elected their decisions would all look toward the next election and what is popular at the moment and, over time, be influenced by whoever gave the biggest campaign contributions.
But their job, in the constitution, is to be a balance that looks at the legality of the law and does what is right. Yes, the system has flaws, but better appointed than elected.
bandersen Saint George, UTMay 17, 2014 3:17 p.m.
Whether SSM is legalized or not, decisions have consequences! God will not be mocked and SSM is mocking Him! To place the acts of Homosexuality on par with buying milk on Sunday is akin to equating abortion to a passionate kiss! One of the great benefits, however, will be to see all our SSM advocates come to the support of our brothers and sisters who want to live in polygamous marriages! Equality for all is a wonderful concept that brings Social Justice to all forms of marriage! Right!
Candied Ginger Brooklyn, OHMay 17, 2014 3:14 p.m.
"And that a child have have "two mommies" or "two daddies"? Yeah - that just can't be normal; just can't be right. Can it???"
We have two adopted kids, a boy and a girl.
They are thrilled to have two mommies and a loving home and security and hope.
Sometimes, I call her my "wife." Sometimes I use "partner." Sometimes I call her my "husband" because she works so I can be a stay-at-home-mom, and she changes the oil and kills spiders.
We know a couple at church where she works as an internal medicine doctor and he stays at home with their children. The insist that he is the "wife" and she is the "husband." Started as a joke, but now it is a statement about gender roles and what society expects.
He is very masculine, by the way. He is also good with kids and the best cook I know.
Willem Los Angeles, CAMay 17, 2014 1:22 p.m.
Have no fear Mormon friends very soon samesex marriages will be the law of our great country and we all will be better for it!
Henry Drummond San Jose, CAMay 17, 2014 1:20 p.m.
The article states:
"Just look at what happened to Catholic Charities, which ceased adoption services in Massachusetts in the aftermath" of the 2003 ruling."
What the article doesn't state is that Catholic Charities was taking tax-payer dollars to run the agency for all citizens of the Massachusetts - not just Catholics. Private adoption services run with private dollars such as LDS Social Services did not have the same constraints.
Had a state funded agency refused to provide adoption services to Mormons because of the sincerely held religious belief of some that "Mormons are not Christians," I doubt this newspaper would see that as an act of Religious Liberty.
mcdugall Murray, UTMay 17, 2014 1:03 p.m.
@Cool Cat Cosmo - Also being from MA, I couldn't me more proud that the Supreme Court of MA put an end to one form of discrimination. The founding fathers left England in the pursuit to freedom to practice their beliefs or non-beliefs without the burden of Governmental interference. Whatever your religious beliefs are, this country is designed to protect your rights as individuals to practices your beliefs without persecution from the Government and as such religious organizations should not force, through legislation, their beliefs on the masses.
koseighty The Shire, UTMay 17, 2014 12:43 p.m.
@ultragrampa who said:
"As hard as I try - and I have really tried over the past few years as the debate has heated up - I still cannot come to grips with the concept of a girl having a "wife" or a boy having a "husband." It all seems just so unnatural and weird, just SO against logic and reason."
So an entire section of our community should be denied equal rights because of your lack of empathy, understanding and simple imagination?
I personally find the thought of engaging in homosexual sex icky. For me. It's just not gonna happen. But because I understand loving someone and wanting to be with them forever, I will fight (and vote) to ensure all my fellow Americans have the same right. To do otherwise is selfish and just plain mean spirited.
worf Mcallen, TXMay 17, 2014 12:24 p.m.
What other acceptances will same-sex marriage lead to?
Laura Ann Layton, UTMay 17, 2014 12:13 p.m.
When they first allowed gay marriage in Utah, I was very upset. After a lot of prayer and scripture study, I was filled with the knowledge that all will be well. That the power of men can never overcome the will of our Heavenly Father. Some may mock me for my beliefs, but I care not. All of this is just part of the latter-days prophesized by ancient prophets and modern prophets. Although I'll always be kind and courteous to those who disagree with me, I claim the constitutional right to live and defend my faith. I claim the right as a citizen of this great country to disagree with others and fight against things I feel are wrong. I believe that all children of our Heavenly Father are worthy of love. It is our actions that define us.
Schnee Salt Lake City, UTMay 17, 2014 11:49 a.m.
@Cool Cat Cosmo
"When the tyranny of a few appointed individuals overrides the will of the people,"
It is a fundamental American value that when the tyranny of the majority institutes something that is unconstitutional, the courts have the duty to override it.
skrekk Dane, WIMay 17, 2014 10:45 a.m.
@Wilf55 >>>This article tries to give balanced information from the pro and the contra sides
The Wraith Kaysville, UTMay 17, 2014 10:39 a.m.
I could not agree more ordinaryfolks. What really annoys me is that in the bible adultery is condemned just as harshly if not more harshly than homosexuality. Adultery is condemned no fewer than 52 times in the christian bible and homosexuality is only mentioned 6 times.
Do these religious organizations refuse to do business with anyone who has committed adultery. Are they fighting for laws to allow them to discriminate against anyone who has committed adultery? Why are they so obsessed with this one "sin" in their book while they have let all the others go? Not even abortion, the other really hot button issue, rises to this level. No one is asking for laws that will let them never do business with anyone who's had an abortion.
They likely do business with people who have violated every single belief they hold sacred yet this one "sin" is the line they won't cross. The "religious rights" argument makes these people look very bigoted to much of society - simply because this seems to be only issue they are making this argument against, it's the only one they seem to care about.
Laura Bilington Maple Valley, WAMay 17, 2014 10:31 a.m.
Cool Cat, I suggest you go back to Massachusetts and talk to some people there. I don't understand your concern unless you think that you think you will be forced to marry a SS person as soon as you cross the border.
Ultragrandpa, I invite you to meet my daughter and her wife. The concept of same-sex marriage seemed as strange to me as the concept of interracial marriage once did. I invite you to come to my church and meet gay couples raising children. I admire you for being honest about your feelings--it does seem strange. The concept of interracial adoption seems strange to a lot of people--heck, the concept of adoption at all (for otherwise fertile couples) as a chosen way to build a family is hard for a lot of people to accept. Living in Farmington, you may not realize how "unnatural" a lot of southerners think it is to belong to the LDS church.
Hutterite American Fork, UTMay 17, 2014 10:07 a.m.
So same sex marriage might upset your religious sensitivities. That's too bad. You're not owed the right to act on what you see as a god given impetus to discriminate. I cut the lawn on sunday, while drinking beer. Some of the neighbours probably oppose this. But like same sex marriage, they're not owed obedience on my part because of it.
ordinaryfolks seattle, WAMay 17, 2014 8:35 a.m.
This piece makes the case that those who oppose same sex marriage on religious grounds ought to be given a pass for providing services to same sex couples on the grounds that it violates their strongly held religious principles.
The main religious objection to anything homosexual are a few references to homosexual activity in the Bible that elevate the practice to some sort of sin (the level of which I will leave to religionists). Unspoken, but on display, is the another objection to same sex marriage. Namely the "I find it icky" factor. (The child rearing argument has been thoroughly destroyed.)
My question to religionists of any stripe. Why does the "sin" of homosexuality become elevated so high. No one discriminates on the grounds of strongly held religious views for someone who violates on of the Ten Commandments. All you folks buying milk on Sunday ought to be sanctioned every bit as much as a same sex couple wanting to get married.
My question to homophobes is why you find homosexuality so "icky". I find smoking, obesity, crude language and a disregard for our common humanity far more repulsive.
ultragrampa Farmington, UTMay 17, 2014 7:57 a.m.
As hard as I try - and I have really tried over the past few years as the debate has heated up - I still cannot come to grips with the concept of a girl having a "wife" or a boy having a "husband." It all seems just so unnatural and weird, just SO against logic and reason.
And that a child have have "two mommies" or "two daddies"? Yeah - that just can't be normal; just can't be right. Can it???
Cool Cat Cosmo Payson, UTMay 17, 2014 7:56 a.m.
"It was a massive mistake and a betrayal when the Supreme Judicial Court foisted same-sex marriage on the people of Massachusetts, and it remains so today." Being from Mass., I couldn't agree more. When the tyranny of a few appointed individuals overrides the will of the people, as Shakespeare once quipped, "Something is rotten in the state of ________ (fill in the blank)."
Wilf 55 SALT LAKE CITY, UTMay 17, 2014 7:50 a.m.
This article tries to give balanced information from the pro and the contra sides, but gives the impression that religion is per definition against same-sex marriage. It fails to acknowledge that many churches have already opened their doors, their hearts, and their sacraments to our gay brothers and sisters. And more are to follow.
Karen R. Houston, TXMay 17, 2014 7:22 a.m.
Notice the silence on the subject of social ills arising from SSM. All concerns are about religious freedom, i.e., "We're afraid that, when in the public square, we'll be forced to behave as if we approve of SSM when our religion forbids it."
I think it's more accurate to say that you'll be required to refrain from discriminating against those of whom you disapprove.
MY concern is that some are placing their religion before the nation. What's wrong with this? Of the two, which one is protecting your right to practice your religion? (And my right to not believe.)
If your belief about SSM is exempted from public accommodation laws, all other beliefs must be honored too, and we revert to "majority rules." If your religious sect doesn't have a majority right now, you're working against your own self-interest.
IMO, you are seeking relief in the wrong place. It needs to come from your religion, not your nation. Your religion needs to come up with a workaround that allows you to remain faithful to it. Fortunately, our nation grants it the freedom to do this.


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The Red Bull Junior, who won the race with the British team in 2012, will return once again to the most challenging street circuit in the world in a Volkswagen powered Dallara F312.
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"I am really happy to be racing in Macau again, particularly with Carlin after our success there last year", said da Costa. "Obviously the aim is to win again, although in Macau you can see your weekend turned around in an instant! But when the opportunity came up to race there again this year, I couldn't say no."
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"As we always say there are so many factors involved in a race win in Macau and talent and speed isn't always enough; on such a tight street circuit you need an element of luck as well so there's no pressure on Antonio to dominate again. Having said that, he is a massive asset to the team and his experience will be invaluable to our rookies.
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The Toyota Highlander is the quintessential two-box SUV. The format is, perhaps, less than attractive, but in this segment, versatility and cargo capacity tend to trump all other considerations. In this regard, the Highlander is an unqualified success.
To begin with, the latest version is larger than its predecessor and has a more planted stance in spite of the taller ride height (25 millimetres).
Riding on a derivative of the Camry/Avalon platform, the Highlander's wheelbase is 75 mm longer than before and the length and width increase by 96 mm and 75 mm, respectively. This ups the interior space dramatically without making the Highlander Sport feel any larger from behind the wheel.
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The cargo-carrying capability is also better than before. While the capacity is limited with the third row upright (10.3 cubic feet), a quick tug on a small tab drops the headrests flat, allowing the seat to disappear in one easy move. This action brings 42.3 cu. ft. of cargo capacity and a flat floor. Folding the middle row down opens up a cavernous 95.4 cu. ft. The lone quibble is the lateral gap between the second and third rows — odds and ends will disappear only to resurface rolling around under the seats.
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The Sport also comes with all the needed toys — combine the comfortable eight-way leather driver's seat with the tilt and telescopic steering wheel adjustment, and all body types are accommodated properly. There's also a good audio package with steering wheel-mounted controls, six-pack CD and an auxiliary input. The Highlander gets bonus marks for making all the controls large enough to use with a gloved hand. The lone exceptions are the tiny seat heater knobs.
Powered by an advanced 3.5-litre V6, the Highlander Sport is not shy when the gas pedal is prodded with enthusiasm. The 270 horsepower and 248 pound-feet of torque (at 4,700 rpm) spirits the Highlander from rest to 100 kilometres in 7.6 seconds and completes the 80- to 120-km-an-hour test in 7.2 seconds. Typical of Toyota's powerplants, this engine loves to rev and does not get noisy when pushed toward redline.
The disappointment is the lack of a six-speed automatic — the Highlander makes do with five gears. The good news is that the ratios manage to keep the engine operating in its considerable sweet spot while providing decent fuel economy — a test average of 11.7L per 100 km.
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Once decidedly staid and conservative, the Highlander has morphed into a decent ride. The combination of power and handling along with the electronic aids also means it does a very credible impersonation of a true off-roader.
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At a press conference Wednesday, Cannes director Thierry Fremaux read a letter from Gosling apologizing for his absence. He is currently in Detroit shooting his directorial debut, "How to Catch a Monster," which stars girlfriend Eva Mendes, Christina Hendricks, Saoirse Ronan and Matt Smith ("Doctor Who").
"Can't believe I'm not In Cannes," Gosling wrote. "I was hoping to come but I'm on week three shooting my film in Detroit. Miss you all. Nicolas, my friend, we really are the same persons in different dimensions. I'm sending you good vibrations."
His absence is a blow to the festival, which depends on top stars like Gosling to walk its red carpet and draw the world's media attention to the annual French Riviera extravaganza.
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"Only God Forgives" was screened for the media early Wednesday at Cannes, where it drew mixed reviews for its extreme violence and nightmarish Greek tragedy. Refn, who also directed Gosling in 2011's "Drive," said he understood Gosling needing to stay with his production.
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Lyman toddler burials of 1848, 1852, 1853?
The 1872 genealogy of the Lyman family, by Lyman Coleman, lists these death dates for four toddler daughters of D.H. (David Hinckley) Lyman and Sophia Doty Lyman, but I have been unable to discover any other source that supports or elaborates on this. (Pedigrees such as LDS or Ancestry that cite these dates are taking it from this Lyman genealogy book and omitting graveyard or death record evidence.)
I'm hoping Muskingum, Coshocton and Portage area forum readers of the details below might have some more primary-source fact-check ideas. Here is what IS known or pondered:
The girls, according to the Coleman source, were Sophia (25 Dec. 1845 - 12 Nov. 1848), Katie or Katherine (16 Dec. 1847-24 June 1848) and twins Nellie (16 Aug. 1851-Jan. 1853) and Clara (16 Aug. 1851-July 1852).
It would be nice to be able to prove their existence and to find out a bit of what that sad story context might have been, in more detail. Censuses aren't any help, because the first two girls died before the 1850 census lists family members and the last twins were both born and buried between the 1850 and 1860 reports.
I've heard that this next source MIGHT contain supportive data, but it's equally obvious on its face that this publication date precedes deaths of the twins, so it can't very well answer the need in full. Plus I've been unable to find a copy of the actual content for this partial citation -- Does anyone have this source for confirmation-rebuttal lookup help, so I don't have to buy a whole book to find out what I already know isn't the full answer?: Deaths from the Portage Sentinal, 5 July 1848, Portage Co., Ohio Newspaper Obituary Abstracts 1825-1870, as published in the Ohio Newspaper Abstracts Series, 1982, Vol. 2, p. 73
Beyond that, we know: Their parents are buried together under a single white oblisk in West Center Square of Greenwood Cemetery, but the children are not buried with them, according to a visit to the site plus a double-check with the city and its records. Other posted lists reflect burial dates later than the ones we need or omit relevant ties.
Where would toddler burial prospects be for that area, era and family? Here is some other background, for clues and general interest -- notice after the obituary the church and other family burial reference at the end:
D.H. Lyman, originally of Northampton MA, was owner of the Zanesville Courier, was an attorney, was first secretary of the short-lived Central RR, was a mill owner, delegate to the Whig convention, and grandson of New England's Judge Samuel Hinckley who speculated in Ohio's Western Reserve land (and for whom Hinckley, Ohio, is named). In some ways he's easy to "find." But the many published references to him omit family details for business-related ones, and the family was colorfully mobile, which adds some more gray scope to personal story guesswork.
Even the unusual sourcing benefit of preserved personal family letters (part of a collection available, just offline, through the New England Historic Genealogical Society, but from which I have some letters copies and transcriptions copies in excerpt), were more about family business dealings than family genealogy. But I also have not personally accessed all of the offline letters, just excerpts pertaining to DH, which are inconclusive about the daughters. (I am descended, by the way, from the couple's only surviving child, Charles. I am in touch with others sharing this general genealogy scope, but this particular question is a tangent for all of us, and clearly there aren't descendants of deceased toddlers, so this keeps getting shuffled to the side. But it's a pesky hole in the story, so would be nice to settle with facts and the human side of an otherwise overly business-oriented focus.)
All timelines, though, indicate the toddler children would have died while the couple was still in Zanesville city (before Coshocton, Chicago, NY and Pittsburgh). But I have not done a local deed search to pin down how soon or long the family owned their property. I also don't know if the girls might even reasonably be buried in that way or some other -- More importantly, apart from the Coleman source, I also don't yet know that they even existed, unless there is corroboration of birth as well as death, and I don't have either one yet. So anyone finding even just one side of the birth-death equation would be providing a major leap forward in the corroboration gap. Deed work seems secondary to basic birth-death records checks.
It's as possible that the girls were born in Portage as Muskingum, given that Sophia's family was from Ravenna in Portage and she easily could have gone to see family for female support as births approached or as her husband traveled widely. But in Muskingum County, the Lyman family lived in Zanesville itself, so that seems a high prospect. But by the early 1860s, they had fully moved to the farm in Jefferson Township, Coshocton County, and might have had simultaneous properties in the '50s.
So, because of that zig-zagging and range, the sourcing pool for potential birth and burial locations for toddlers gets wider, despite the narrow time frames of the toddler's dates (1845-53) that do peg to when DH definitely was working in Zanesville itself as his base (he's listed among the Muskingum Bar in 1843 and he sold the Courier in 1855). The Coleman genealogy does not cite its sources or locations for the very precise birth and death dates it gives. But it was a serious genealogy study, as was the 1991 update by Margaret Lyman that adds to this couple's data and descendants' data but does not address the children who died young or imply any reason to question the original report on this.
DHL's obituary, unhelpfully, doesn't reference the family much, and also raises new questions from what it does share:
From photocopy of 12 Dec. 1876 Coshocton County (OH) "Democrat" newspaper, page 3: First obituary atop two other shorter notices for others.
[ My comments are in brackets. Any ( ) are original to the clipping. ]
Mr. Editor -- Our valued friend and fellow citizen, D.H. Lyman, breathed his last at 8:15 p.m. on the 25th of November, 1876. He died from nervous exhaustion (Astheria) caused by organic disease of Liver or Pancreas (Was born November 21, 1820.)
For the last eleven months, his health has been gradually failing, and while in Chicago last Winter was taken down by an attack of Jaundice or Hepatitis disease, from which he partially recovered; and in July last, while residing on his farm in Jefferson township, he was again attacked with a billious diarrhea and for a time his life was despaired of -- but he so far recovered as to go actively to work to secure the Dresden R.R. branch, a work he had set himself to accomplish. In the prosecution of his plans of operation, it became necessary to make a trip to Pittsburgh, Pa, and Philadelphia, in order to consult with Mr. J. ?uett [ first letters of first and last name are blurred, and searches about the railroad have yet to turn up this name ] of the Pennsylvania Central, which mission he accomplished to his entire satisfaction.
[ The above paragraph helpfully supports that a "D.H. Lyman" appearing in a Chicago railroad history book may, indeed, be our same person. Ours routinely went by "D.H." rather than David, and he had a variety of railroad interests -- which primarily consisted of trying to get a train spur built close to his commercial properties, especially a coal mine. His letters indicate visiting Chicago, even living there. ]
He also made a short visit to his son, Master Lt. [ Charles ] Lyman of the U.S. Navy, stationed at Norfolk, Virginia; whom he had not seen for a long time; and on his way home while waiting in the cold and damp depot, was taken with a chill and diarrhea. On his return he stopped at Zanesville and again consulted his friend and family physician Dr. Hildreth, but his case was beyond the reach of medicine, and he gradually failed in spite of the most assiduous care and attention of a loving and devoted wife, who has nursed him during a long and tedious illness. [ This implies a second marriage, another relationship or a misunderstanding, as his documented and official wife, Sophia Doty Lyman, died years before D.H. did, in 1871, and is the only wife buried with him. In fact, his inscription joins her oblisk, on an adjoining face. ] No medicine reached his case, and no nourishment went to sustain the flagging energies of the system. And at 8:15 p.m., as above stated, he died without a murmur, calmly, quietly, he passed from earth scenes with scarcely a muscular tremor.
"Resquiebat in pacem."
The deceased was a communicant in good standing, in the Congregational Church, and died in the hope of a final resurrection to immortality and eternal Life."
[ So... forum readers....Any Congregational churches in Zanesville or Ravenna or rural Coshocton have cemeteries that seem promising for this set of dates and association circumstances? Anyone have a membership roll showing this family, to pin down the county? Birth-death list ideas for those eras?
[ Their son Charles is buried at the U.S. Naval Academy. Not surprisingly, his toddler sisters are not with him. DH's parents are buried in New England. I believe Sophia's father, David Doty, is the one in Maple Grove Cemetery at Ravenna, Portage County, showing in find-a-grave. I have not yet located her mother's grave site, to see if the children are also with her: Marie Antoinette Chapman Hollister Doty, died 1849. ]
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Last Wednesday afternoon, Clément Méric, a 19-year-old university student, was punched by a skinhead wearing brass knuckles on rue Caumartin in Paris. He fell and his head hit a pole. He was declared dead the following afternoon.
Pierre Bergé, Yves Saint Laurent's partner, said on Twitter that he believed the anti-gay marriage movement was to blame: 'The Manif pour tous accepted into their ranks these fascists who killed Clément.' He also reminded his followers of the threats made by the leader of Manif pour tous, Frigide Barjot, at a rally in April. 'If Hollande wants blood, he shall have some.' Most French newspapers agreed with Bergé's analysis.
Now that blood has been spilled, Barjot denies any responsibility. The people at the Manif pour tous protests were 'families with prams', she said. She puts the blame on the law allowing gay marriage: 'It's started an ideological conflict. One shouldn't be astonished that there are deadly repercussions which I deplore totally,' she told AFP.
Julien Salingue, a political science student at Paris VIII University and a member of the NPA (New Anticapitalist Party) says that in recent months he and other activists have observed 'far-right groups growing in universities, fights taking place regularly in Toulouse and Lyon, a trade union CGT activist getting beaten up. Identitaires' – a far-right youth movement – 'putting video clips online. As if all these small far-right groups had decided to become more visible.'
SOS Homophobie say they received 30 per cent more reports of homophobic acts in 2012 than in 2011. Wilfred de Bruijn, a Dutchman wo has lived in Paris for nine years, was attacked with his partner on 7 April. He published a photo of his badly beaten face on Facebook, with the caption: 'This is the face of homophobia.'
Méric was involved in the campaign for equal marriage. A video shot on 17 April, 10 days after the assault on de Bruijn, shows him in the front line of a counter demo. Half of his face is hidden by a red bandana and he's holding a sign that says: 'Homophobia kills.'
For far-right groups, the Manifs pour tous have been an opportunity to recruit. 'Just as we try to recruit within the most radical young people during social mobilisations,' Salingue says. 'After all, big right wing demos are quite rare.'
Dominique Venner, a veteran far-right historian, shot himself in Notre Dame to protest against the law allowing gay marriage. 'Organising nice street demonstrations won't be enough,' his final blog post said. 'We will need new gestures, spectacular and symbolic… This is a time when words have to be backed up by actions.' Marine Le Pen paid tribute to Venner, saying on Twitter that his suicide was 'an eminently political gesture aimed at waking up the French people'.
Méric's murder was initially linked to the Jeunesses Nationalistes Révolutionnaires, a small but growing far-right group. The five people who have been arrested are said to be not members of the JNR but sympathisers of Troisième Voie, a small group created in 2010, for which the JNR do security. On Saturday, the prime minister announced that the JNR would be dissolved, and that Troisième Voie might be too.
Stéphane François, a political scientist, told L'Express that the factors behind the rise of such groups include the economic crisis, the fact that the JNR claims to be anticapitalist, and the attempts of the Front National to rebrand itself as a more mainstream party and to publicly distance itself from its neo-Nazi acquaintances. Marine Le Pen immediately condemned Clément's assault. Confronted on RTL radio by a journalist who played the statement of a witness saying one of the assailants was wearing a Front National T-shirt, she said it wasn't true.
Yet Méric's death was political. He was killed because he was a member of Action Antifasciste Paris-Banlieue. His face would have been well-known to neo-Nazi groups.
Jean-François Copé, the president of the UMP, who attended the Manif pour tous demonstrations, called for the dissolution of all 'extreme' political groups, 'of the far right, and the far left', whose 'sole expression', he said, 'is violence'.
'When was the last time a far-left activist killed someone in the street?' Salingue asks.
On Thursday night, thousands of people gathered in cities across France to remember Méric. Some of his fellow students at Sciences Po objected to his being depicted as a 'far left' activist. 'The left he was defending is the real left,' they said.


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Melbourne Victory have added another big name to their A-League roster for next season, signing experienced defender Matthieu Delpierre on a one-year deal.
The 33-year-old Frenchman, who skippered VfB Stuttgart to the Bundesliga title in 2006-07, joins the club from Dutch outfit FC Utrecht.
The six-foot-four centreback played 162 games for Stuttgart in the German top-flight between 2004 and 2012, before switching to TSG 1899 Hoffenheim.
He also previously enjoyed a five-year stint at French side Lille.
Coach Kevin Muscat said Delpierre would provide real quality to his squad, following the addition of star striker Besart Berisha from defending champions Brisbane Roar and Socceroos midfielder Carl Valeri.
"Matthieu is a proven performer with experience at the highest level against some of the best strikers in Europe, so we know he has what it takes to be successful in the A-League," Muscat said in a statement on Monday.
"I've certainly been tracking Matthieu's progress over the past season and have been itching to get him to join us in the A-League, so now I am thrilled we are able to have a Bundesliga winner with us in our 10th anniversary season."
Delpierre is slated to feature in the Victory's inaugural FFA Cup campaign beginning next month and said he was excited about playing in Australia.
"I know moving to the A-League will be a big challenge, but it is one that I am really happy about and I can't wait to get started with Kevin and all the Melbourne Victory players," he said.
Delpierre will help fill the defensive void left by last season's international marquee, Chilean Pablo Contreras, who is now retired.


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3 Voice Over Casting Insights To Help You Get the Part
By Todd Resnick
The voice over casting of an actor begins and ends with the opinion of the client… and it is subjective.
Let me repeat that – it is SUBJECTIVE.
It's crucial to keep in mind that you are selling your voice, skill, and talent as a product. While we understand how much work you have put into your craft, we also have a great deal of pressure to get the "right" voice to match the creative vision of our client and their product.
This is a business, it is not personal. Keep this as your motto and it will reflect in your calmness in the booth, as well as an ease you'll bring to the room. If you are able to help the day run smooth and be professional when we ask you to give us a different read for the thousandth time, we will be much more likely to hire you again.
This is a demanding and competitive business, and we all want to work with people we like. Here are just a few of the additional criteria we keep in mind for casting.
1. What is the best voice for the part.
Again, this is subjective, but you can help stack the deck in your favor by being prepared. Have an arsenal of voices ready to go. This will show your range and adaptability.
2. The ability to stay in character.
Nothing is more frustrating than to cast the perfect voice, only to have that actor not be able to repeat the voice throughout the duration of the session. It wastes time and money for all involved to repeat lines and continuously replay the reference to get the actor back on track.
3. Be aware of the production side, as well as the creative.
In production, time literally is money. Help the Director and Producer stay within budget by preparing a wide range of voices, creative choices for the character, and perhaps even dialogue suggestions. Not all directors are open to suggestions, but good ones will appreciate the collaborative effort to make the best content possible.
We hired you for the role(s) because we believe your voice will make our project better. Do your part and we all win with a product we can be proud of.
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Future of Banking: At the 2003 World Economic Forum meetings in Davos there was much talk about the possibilities of deflation: a real and growing threat to a number of economies, despite the fact that most governments have been obsessed with reducing inflation. Indeed entire government economic policy has often been focussed on just one main factor: killing inflation. Why?
Soaring inflation rates have been blamed for many national crises and even for causing wars. Time and again we have seen countries with out-of-control cost of living rises: strikes, industrial action and high wage demands all feeding into higher production costs, encouraging a spiral of further upward pressures on consumer prices. Inflation is often blamed for destroying the value of savings, and making people poor. But collapsing prices also creates a crisis - as we see in cycles of boom, bustle and bust.
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But the reality in 2002 was deflation across many industry sectors. Take the US economy. Prices for 40 percent of all the goods and services in the Labor Department's consumer price index (CPI) showed year-over-year declines in September 2002, according to research by Merrill Lynch's chief Canadian economist David Rosenberg. Corporations in the deflating sectors below form 25% of the stocks in Standard and Poor's 500 index.
Some think governments are being too slow to recognise the great dangers of low inflation, where a single economic blow can push an entire nation over the edge into deflation, with falling cash values of every asset and every investment.
Deflation means a complete mental rethink and is beyond the understanding of most people today who were raised in inflationary times. The real question is an emotional one: how will ordinary people behave if they think prices are going to fall year on year for more than a very short period?
And how will investors in the market behave? As we saw in Japan (1990s), if they start pricing in an expectation of deflation across most sectors, rather than just 40% in some sectors, it will have a significant effect on valuations and reduce appetite even more for buying stocks.
Consumers often rely on inflation to help them repay debts - particularly house loans. Inflation of 5% means a mortgage is only half what it was in real terms in 15 years.
When prices fall, the value of cash rises. Anyone with money has an advantage and those with debts lose. If I have a mortgage of $250,000 this year, and deflation runs at 5% a year, it means in real terms my loan will double in size over 15 years. Most worryingly, in deflation, my loan (which was only 70% of the value of my home) will become so huge that even if I sell my home, I will be left with large debts.
We have all seen deflation before in one key area: computers and digital technology where deflation has been eating away at price levels for three decades or more. But this is different. It is one thing to write off an investment in a computer system over three years, but another to find that one of your greatest assets, your own home, is worth only a small fraction of what it was twenty years ago, and that prices of every other asset you own are also expected to go on falling.
Of course if you have cash in hand, the temptation is to spend nothing, and invest in nothing. What is the point of buying when you know that in six months time the chances are you could buy more? So money gets left as cash under the bed, or in a bank account (if you are prepared to risk the bank going bust because so many loans were secured against assets, now worth almost nothing). Spending falls, feeding a further frenzy of price cutting, downward pressure on salaries, bonus cutting, and so on. But it is easier to pay people less and get away with it when they know they need less to live on this year than last year.
Interest rates fall to zero, because no one in their right minds wants to borrow large amounts of an asset (cash) which is going to inflate with time. Indeed the only asset for ordinary men and women that grows in value in a deflationary economy is cash, and cash is what you find they hang on to. Just look at Japan which has experienced deflation for years with terrible consequences.
How serious is the risk of deflation hitting other economies?
The main tool that governments use to control inflation is interest rates, but this tool can lose its power if rates are already so low that there is hardly any room left to cut further before the cost of borrowing falls to zero. Another terrorist shock, a war in Iraq that goes badly wrong, or some other national calamity... it is not hard to imagine a scenario where further rate cuts become necessary.
Think about it from the ordinary man or woman in the street's point of view. If interest rates are zero, I can go out and get a huge loan and it costs me nothing at all. Of course the loan must one day be repaid, but when? The bank soon realises I am over extended and cannot repay, but is in no hurry because the loan repayments will be worth more to them in the future, if they give me longer to find the money. They are not losing a penny in interest because the interest rate is zero. In fact every day the bank waits, the more they make, because the price of money is rising as the price of everything else falls - that is the reality of deflation.
Old economics relied on inflation running at a safe modest level - not too high and not too low. It taught us that raising the cost of borrowing also raises the returns to savers, and sucks money out of the economy so less is around to be spent by consumers, goods hang around before being sold and market prices are constrained. Lowering interest rates encourages people to spend without worrying, more cash chases goods for sale, prices rise.
Unfortunately there are a number of drivers of deflation, so it will be easy for governments to find rates lower turn out lower than they expected. That's why banks try to keep a margin for error and will take radical steps to prevent inflation falling from - say - an absolute minimum of 2.5% or even 3% a year.
1. Globalization: every time a job moves from a high income country to a low income country, the price of production falls, and the potential for price cutting increases, while maintaining profits and market share. We are currently witnessing rapid and accelerating changes in industry and services. Even less developed countries like Mexico are finding large chunks of their manufacturing capacity moving to places such as China. India is taking a significant share of software development, with entire teams being made redundant in the UK and the US, replaced by teams twice the size at a fraction of the cost in places like Hyderabad and Bangalore. And as prices rise in places like coastal China, jobs will shift to other less developed regions.
2. Technology innovation: every time a new production process is developed, using less people and less resources, prices fall. In the past, technology purchases formed only a small part of our lives, but the techno-economy continues to grow dramatically, despite the hype and gloom of investors. And the indirect spin-offs are becoming greater every day. Take for example food technology and processing, where new automated packaging and distribution systems have contributed to falling food prices for over a decade, or new farming methods with increased yields, or the impact of online business to business relationships and just-in-time delivery systems.
3. Economic cycles and global shocks. Every economy goes through ups and downs and events outside any government's control also have impact. Take for example major terror attacks or turmoils in the Middle East affecting oil prices, which have recently fluctuated widely and may continue to do so. When oil prices rise, there is inflationary pressure. Governments respond by factoring this into decisions to raise interest rates and inflation falls towards a base level. But if that minimum is too low, what happens if there is another major downwards correction and for a while oil prices fall very significantly? The answer is an added risk of undershooting and causing deflation.
So then, as we have seen, sectors in many economies are already deflating. What can governments do of they are worried about deflation, or to correct national deflation once it starts?
Firstly they can cut interest rates more aggressively while they are still able.
Secondly they can suspend or revoke tax rises for a limited period. Thirdly they can increase expenditure. Both these options of course affect government debt and are sustainable only in the short term without profound consequencies.
In summary then, both inflation and deflation pressures can worry governments, with potential risks to stability in countries where inflation has been allowed to fall too low. Governments should be expected to act from time to time, aiming to maintain around 2.5% to 3.0% inflation throughout economic cycles, giving room for adjustments and economic shocks in both directions.
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Crimson Trace with Carry -- A Tactical Advantage?
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What you don't hear very much at all is "I had them on my carry gun and I took them off and I am happier to NOT have them on my gun." No, you sure as heck don't hear that very much (if ever). Yes, if you have the laser, and if you only train to look for the laser dot and then fire you will probably be slower. Assuming you are not law enforcement, not military but some average guy who lives an average middle class life (go to work, come home, stop for gas, go to the mall or the shopping center, sometimes go out for dinner, walk through parking lots, etc) you will face violence mostly as the result of an opportunistic violent criminal attack. It will be up close and very personal. Iron sights will not be a factor. When I train with my guns, I might have three or four shots off before my eyes are looking for the dot from the laser. At that point, I am moving, feet in motion while finger continues to press trigger to the rear to fire more shots at "bad guy" (target). At that point, my laser gives me some additional info about where the gun is pointing relative to the location of the bad guy. It is tempting to train just to look for the laser dot and fire, but that temptation has to be managed. As Michael Bane says, "I want suspenders, a belt, and duct tape!" No reason not to throw every advantage into the mix if practical for still being able to holster and carry the gun.
As a dedicated and enthusiastic user of the Crimson Trace lasers, I will also say that the coming revolution in mini-red dot sites for carry guns is going to be a game changer. I have tried a few and did not like them but the technology is progressing rapidly and they will likely replace iron sights on carry guns to a large extent, within our lifetimes, probably before the decade is out. They might not replace lasers, but they might make lasers a lot less of an advantage. Time will tell, but one thing that is definitely going down in terms of being considered a resource is iron sights on carry guns. Give it ten years before you proclaim me wrong, because I told you that this will happen gradually over time.
Who would have thought even as recently as 2005 that manufacturers would be selling AR-15's without any sights on them at all (since they know that many users will equip the rifle with a red dot or other optical sight system)?
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