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P being unfaithful(153 Posts)
Have NC'd as my usual moniker is very telling.
Backstory: I moved in with MIL and FIL because of DP's work. We moved when DS was 2 months old. My family are nowhere near, not many friends even after 18 months of being here. Also a language barrier as most people here speak [as a primary] a language I don't know, but am learning. They're happy with English, but it's still awkward. I had PND badly, really suffered with it but am out of the woods now.
In the past I have found sexually explicit texts/e-mails/Facebook messages from DP to a man, who is a friend from school days. I was understandably distraught, but was assured it wouldn't happen again and that he was just trying to deal with the strain of being a new parent and being in a new job and having to deal with my PND. He also assured me that he was not gay, and that it was "all talk and no action" if you get my drift? He cut contact with this person voluntarily.
About 5 months after this happened, I accidentally saw a Facebook conversation with a girl, as our Google Chrome opens the last viewed page. In it, there were some fairly sexually explicit messages, mostly from her but some from him.
She also was incredibly cruel about me, claiming that I was using my PND as an excuse to laze about and that a year after the birth of my child is too long to be clinging to my excess weight. Although DP stood up for me in that instance, I couldn't ignore the messages. We began a trial separation and I eventually accepted him back after a fortnight of him trying his utmost to make things right between us.
Since then, we've been closer than ever, our DS has grown and I've never felt more happy. Our sexlife was back on track and it felt like a whole new relationship.
Fast forward another 7 months to today. He's been texting his very close friend [S] a lot, because she lives far away and so we only see her sporadically. They are very close, have been friends since they were little, and is considered an integral part of our friendship circle. They had a brief fling about 9 years ago, when they were in their teens, but nothing ever came of it and DP was upfront and honest about there being no feelings involved, and that it was just sex and "not very good sex at that" [his words].
His phone vibrates and because I'm closest, I check. It's from S and it is filthy. I go and check his previous contact with S only to find around a days worth of messages, but all the messages have turned deeply sexual.
DP - "You can tie me to your bed and do anything you like xxx"
DP - "TwoSugars is having a good week - we've had sex three times but I still want more can you come and finish me off"
DP - "Sat here wanking to porn while TwoSugars is asleep, wish you were here"
I've confronted him, and he has pulled his usual sadface and is there looking miserable. I have tried to keep my cool and have told him exactly how disappointed I am, that I thought we were OK and that I've never been so disgusted. Because she's such a close friend I now have to wonder what has been going on, whether this is new or whether it's been going on longer because he's known to delete messages from his phone as he likes "a tidy inbox".
For various reasons regarding money, my family, his family and commitments, I cannot just up and leave, either with DS or without him. I have no idea what I am meant to do about this. I'm so ashamed of myself. I thought we were OK.
I'm so sorry it's long, but I just didn't want to dripfeed. I mean it when I say that I cannot leave, even as a break. What do I do?
your life has gone tits-up. that's horrible but it happens to a lot of us.your in-laws are messing with your head. their views do not count. you are currently almost a prisoner.
find your passport (does your ds have a passport? find that too). find any other important documents. proof of his income if you have access to that.
put ds's clothes, favourite toy and all your jewellery in a bag. even a small amount of gold is saleable and can make the difference between a meal or going hungry.
on tuesday, put on more clothes than you would normally wear; take the bag. 'go shopping' early with ds. go to social services and ask for help.
at that point you have left.
if you can get your parents to support you after that, do.
twosugars no dont message her. if he does go to her after this then she will soon learn what a shitbag he is. its never a good idea to message/contact the others involved as it will just drag you in and down further. you dont need that right now. you just need to break away with your head held high... dont stoop down to their level. they're so not worth it. you're worth more than that
"his mum and dad have refused to let me leave the house permanently, as FIL's sister has been through all of this (welfare and crappy b&bs etc) and he is adamant it won't happen to his first grandchild."
They can 'refuse' all they want, it means nothing. And if he's so damned adamant, he can put his hand in his pocket and pay rent on wherever you go. You CAN leave.
Where is your partner living right now? Have his parents thrown him out? Because if they haven't, then they do not have your interests at heart; they're just saving face.
Twosugars, I read your 'I cannot leave' as 'I don't want to leave'.
I'm sure you have your reasons for that, the idea of turning your life upside down is daunting, maybe you want to cling onto your dp no matter what (there a lot of that about), maybe the benefits you gain from being there outweigh the pain of being repeatedly lied to and humiliated?
Whatever it is, I'm not sure what you want people to say. This is him and this is what he does, it's not a glitch this is your life. You either accept this life or you don't and you say you're not going anywhere.
So what is it you want to hear?
You need to get away from this man.
You need to leave for your sanity.
It sounds like you have been so ground down by his actions that you have no confidence or self-worth.
I can't imagine how terrifying the thought of going it alone on welfare will be for you but you need to do it for yourself and your son. You need to rebuild yourself and build yourself a life. Your ds deserves a mum who is happy and independent not a shadow who is taken advantage of.
Other posters have given some good practical advice please take it.
"If they were that supportive they would kick out their excuse for a son and support you and your DC."
Exactly. They don't really care about you or your son.
They can 'refuse' to let you leave as much as they like but unless they're are physically restraining you and imprisoning you (which is illegal - so call the police) then they can't stop you.
If one of my sons treated the Mother of their DC like this, the Mother would have my full support. I would kick my DS out and keep space for the Mother and DC. If I had the money, I may pay for a bedsit for my DS, or a house for the Mother and DC, but no way would I expect them both to continue to live with me.
That's not having your Ex-DIL and GC's interests at heart - that's trying to 'save face'. Because if YOU move out, you will likely tell people why. And that might be embarrassing for them.
I'd be fixing to find a way to move out, tbh, if it was me. I'd thank my PIL's for their support, and assure them that they are welcome to see their GC regularly, but that it was untenable for me to continue to share a house with my Ex-P that has the morals of an alley cat!
TidyDancer, no sleight intended, just that there was a lot of speculation before your post and seeing as it's fairly identifiable if we out and out guess it or doggedly ask about it, thought to clear it up as it's kind of irrelevant.
Op is in the UK, so CAN get the support available, we just need to encourage her to try and get it.
You're right, you're all right. I need to leave. I need to recognize that he has put me down for too long...
Oh Jesus, I've just lost my shit.
P has told me that I can go to the local authority, however DS won't be leaving with me. And if I try and take him, he'll begin court proceedings against me for full custody.
Shit shit shit. What do I do?
He has Two Suagrs - think back to before you two met - I bet you were a different person.
You need to go, you don't deserve such a crap life and neither does your child.
Let him try - you take your child with you and find a good solicitor
I've just gone insane at him. I've kept my cool throughout all of this, but now he's realized that keeping me here is the only power he has left. Oh God I don't want to lose my son...
I very much doubt you will - he's using desperation tactics now. Where was your son born, you may need to stay in the UK, but that doesn't mean with him
I'm in UK, DS is UK-Born.
I've just Googled, can't find my local authority office! It just keeps linking me back to the main page, no address or anything. If he even dares try I'll leave Tuesday and never come back.
Look at the bottom of the page for a 'contact us' bit.
Can I suggest you get this put in legal or relationships? They will be able to advise further - good luck Hun - and STAY STRONG
They may be keeping you so they can go for custody of DS, it has happened before...
Contact Womens Aid, right away. He is emotionally blackmailing you. You need to get out, they will help you. 0808 2000 247
First things first, take a deep breath and stay calm. He's shown his hand, you know what he's thinking. That means you can take steps to avoid that.
Try putting your postcode in here
If it's like mine there will be a 'contact us' section with a long list of departments and phone numbers, so you can select the right one.
Or you can try CAB for advice, or even Women's Aid.
If he or his family get violent in the slightest don't be afraid to call 999.
Oh lord what a hideous situation for you! You must leave ASAP before all your self esteem flys out the window and it too let!
Normal men do NOT behave like this. He is a bastard of the first order! He clearly has no respect for you or your family as a unit and will not change. Please leave << big hugs >>
Agree with these other posters. Contact Womens Aid ASAP
I don't want to worry you but would your DH get your DS out the country to stay with relatives abroad without you? Not knowing your personal living circumstances I have the feeling that you're in a way being held semi-captive - I could be wrong - but you have no independence at all, no friends outside of this circle. I could be reading that wrong but I'd be safeguarding against the worse and getting out of there ASAP. I don't want to go into it here but I have personal experience of a similar situation where I was threatened with something similar regarding my DS. You need to gain back control of your life. Is your name on anything?
Women aid ASAP.
Then leave.
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Cape Town, South Africa, 2009/12/03 - The Tanzanian medical imaging market provides primary diagnosis to a large proportion of the country's population. However, it is not yet an advanced market, and there remains a significant potential for suppliers to introduce new technologies.
"The growth of the private sector has paved the way for innovative technologies such as three-dimensional/four-dimensional (3D/4D) ultrasound and computed radiography (CR) X-ray systems, although they continue to be mostly limited to private hospitals," says Frost & Sullivan Industry Analyst Jolize Gerber. "The public sector is focussing more on equipping all the referral hospitals with advanced technologies."
New analysis from Frost & Sullivan (medicalimaging.frost.com), The Medical Imaging Market in Tanzania, finds that the market earned revenues of $4.10 million in 2008 and estimates this to reach $13.86 million in 2015. The medical imaging technologies covered in this study are ultrasounds, computed tomography (CT) scans and X-rays.
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Ultrasound systems with 3D imaging are likely to drive sales in the medium-to-long term, as the benefits of real-time reconstruction and visualisation of images can be seen with greater precision, while managing to reduce the levels of invasiveness and, consequently, cost. This 3D technology has proven to be particularly beneficial in obstetrics by providing information that is not easily obtainable in 2D imaging.
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NetworkManager doesn't detect GSM modem
Hi fellows,
Hope you can help with this one. I can connect to the internet using wvdial but NetworkManager is a no-no. Here is some information that's relevant:
# lsusb | fgrep Huawei
# NM_SERIAL_DEBUG=1 NetworkManager --no-daemon
# /lib/udev/nm-modem-probe --verbose --export /dev/ttyUSB0
# /sbin/udevadm info --export-db | awk '/ttyUSB0/,/^$/'
Network Manager is, IMHO, a piece of s***
I suggest you use wvdial
You could put the command(s) you need to get connected in /etc/rc.local and if the dongle is plugged in when you boot, you'll be connected.
Otherwise you could create some desktop icons that run scripts to have you connect / disconnect.
Please put your linux distro in your profile (see mine, at the left?)
I am using wvdial, it was surprisingly easy, wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf and then I just changed the number to dial *99#. It wasn't perfect but it was enough to get online and access google to find out how to do the other settings.
The thing is I pull the dongle out and push it back in again. Mind you, I could use halevt to start wvdial when I do that, eh?
And the mysteriously vanishing wvdial.conf but I don't expect that was the programs fault.
Unfortunately I am infected by the GUI disease and prefer pretty graphical things for system configuration as they allow me to lead a lazier life in regards to learning and keeping up with how to configure every little program. Or they are supposed to!
OK, I'll just wait until it's more mature. You have convinced me. Distro added to profile...
If you really want to do that, you can, but you'll have to read up about writing udev rules first.
udev is a daemon which allows any device-specific scripts to be run when a USB device is first plugged in. Maybe halevt can do the same, but I am very happy with udev.
See here: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
Fault lies between keyboard & chair?
I run a firewall, it is in my DSL modem/router (which happens to run linux, it's a Netgear, it seems they do by default): No problems at all.
M$ doesn't give you this option. Once you have learnt to use linux, trust me, you'll like it.
With my halevt rule I have the problem that it triggers as soon as the device is in so wvdial is called before the /dev/ttyUSB0 file it uses to talk to the modem exists. Can this sort of problem be solved with udev? I could make a little script that just sleeps and loops for it to appear but it seems like the sort of thing there is going to be a facility for?
As it turns out, udevd is EASIER than halevt (!). It only took one line to set up the USB dongle to do what I wanted. And all the required information was on that web page you pasted (which did have to be read in full to get the hang of it properly).
Nice one... It makes me wonder why they just didn't make a GUI to do that... it took just ONE LINE of config...
It would be a good idea to post the ONE LINE that worked for you, so others searching for the solution can find it.
This following stuff will all make more sense if you read tredegar's link above in it's entirety first. It's a fairly dull read but only takes 20 minutes or so.
Well, from that web page you can find out how to query easily the udev database specifically for a device node. Originally my USB HSDPA modem was /dev/ttyUSB0. So, I did:
udevinfo -a -p $(udevinfo -q path -n /dev/ttyUSB0)
Well, here were the first four paragraphs under that lovely instructive notice:
[root@jaydee ~]# strings `which udevd` | grep '^/.*rules'
That web page above says it's likely you want your rules to load first. So they need to have a lower number than most of the files in that directory (the file names begin with a number). I went for:
[root@jaydee ~]# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules
[root@jaydee ~]# udevinfo -a -p $(udevinfo -q path -n /dev/ttyUSB1) | fgrep 'ATTRS{bInterfaceNumber}'
And now I want to make that rule active:
[root@jaydee ~]# udevadm control --reload_rules && udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=usb-serial && echo "Everything seems peachy"
[root@jaydee ~]# ls -l /dev/hsdpa
The only problem with the setup is that it doesn't connect on boot. Since I can just unplug and plug the dongle back in in about 0.25 seconds from where I sit after I get my login prompt which will cause it to dial I haven't bothered to find out why (if you know feel free to enlighten! No doubt I could trigger the tty subsystem from /etc/rc.local but shouldn't it work without that?)
Oh, and in case you need a /etc/wvdial.conf for GSM connections:
[root@jaydee ~]# cat /etc/wvdial.conf
So there you have it. Automatic GSM modem. It's quite a generic rule too so there's a good chance it will work on your GSM/HSDPA modem too if it's similar and if it isn't you should have all the info you need there to cook your own rule.
Thanks for taking the time to write that comprehensive, useful and well-formatted follow-up. I have bookmarked it next to the writing udev rules link.
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I got a chance to check out the upcoming update to Stardock's Impulse Digital Distribution service today at PAX. The folks at Stardock are really proud of the service as they've gone from 8,000 users at launch last year to close to close to 2 million users in just over a year.
The next update to the Impulse client is set to go out at the end of Summer will feature a much cleaner user interface and a few other cool new features like the ability to see what kind of copyright protection the game is using (something they are doing to support the
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It's an interesting system and certainly goes beyond what we've seen in other online matching making systems. The new system should also be a boon to those playing older games that don't have as strong of an online community as they used to as it will also hook people up by the games they like to play. It will be interesting to see how the system works when it's out in the public and it's not hard to see Stardock using the system to suggest games to people based on the games they are playing.
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On 3 February 2012, the English High Court (Kitchin LJ) handed down its judgment in the case of Football Association Premier League Ltd and Others v QC Leisure and Others [2012] EWHC 108 (Ch). No doubt this will be swiftly followed by a parallel decision in the criminal proceedings against the Southsea pub landlady, Mrs Murphy. The court's decision follows on from the rulings made by the European Court of Justice (CJEU) in October last year on questions which the High Court had referred to it for determination (see Reed Smith's alert on the CJEU judgment here).
The High Court has declared, in line with the CJEU judgment, that licence conditions requiring broadcasters not to sell decoders outside their licensed territory constitute a restriction on competition prohibited by Article 101 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU). However, departing from expectations raised by the CJEU judgment, the High Court has also found that showing a broadcast which includes filmed elements such as highlights of previous matches to members of the public in a public place who have not paid for admission to that place does not infringe the copyright in those works.
The High Court's bolstering of the CJEU finding that licence conditions designed to provide absolute territorial exclusivity in broadcasts of Premier League matches have an anti-competitive purpose contrary to Article 101 TFEU will reinforce concerns among owners of other valuable media properties traditionally licensed territorially in Europe – and their exclusive licensees –about the implications of the decision for their businesses. Film and television distributors, and the broadcasters who are their customers, have been given no comfort by the High Court.
The High Court's decision on whether there was any copyright infringement is altogether more nuanced. The CJEU had found that whilst a Premier League football match itself is not protected by copyright, there was copyright protection for some elements included in the Premier League's feed of the matches to its licensee broadcasters, such as the opening video sequence, the Premier League anthem, and pre-recorded highlights of previous matches. The CJEU held also that the transmission of these copyright works to a pub audience constitutes a "communication to the public", which requires authorisation from the rights holder. The CJEU decision therefore appeared to leave the publican defendants with a pyrrhic victory since, although they could not be prevented from obtaining and using foreign decoder cards to show Premier League matches, they would seemingly be in breach of copyright if they did so.
The High Court has however come to their rescue, at least to some extent. It has found that, although the airing of FAPL matches in pubs does involve communication of copyright works to the public, there is a valid exception under section 72(1)(c) of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 on which the publicans can rely:
The pre-recorded highlights and video sequences included in the broadcasts of Premier League matches fall within the definition of a film.
The High Court found that, although there is no equivalent provision to section 72 in the EU Copyright Directive, Parliament clearly intended to allow certain types of copyright works included in broadcasts to be viewed in public places such as pubs without the need to obtain the consent of the copyright owner. In support of this position the High Court relied on the clear and unambiguous wording used in section 72(1)(c) as well as Hansard debates on the section.
The High Court recognized that whilst the Copyright Directive does not explicitly permit a defence in the terms of section.72(1)(c), this did not mean that the High Court must artificially construe the section to be in line with the Copyright Directive. Given the unambiguous nature of the section and the clear intention of Parliament there was a limit to how far the Court could imply additional meaning or adopt an unnatural interpretation.
Following the High Court's decision, publicans wishing to use foreign decoders to show Premier League matches in their pubs may think they can do so without infringing the Premier League's copyrights. They will need to take extreme care. The exception in section 72(1)(c) applies only to films included in the broadcasts. It doesn't apply to music, to literary or artistic works or to the sound recording of the Premier League Anthem. The publicans in the case avoided having an injunction granted against them by offering to turn off the sound. How many publicans will remember to do that? Will the Premier League find ways of including literary and artistic works in the coverage so as to make it practically impossible for publicans to avoid infringement?
It seems very unlikely indeed that the Premier League will admit defeat in its long-running battle to limit the televising of Saturday afternoon matches and to protect an important revenue stream.
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by Rep. Larry Sheets
Hello friends!
I am sitting at my desk preparing for the start of Session on January 13 and reflecting on the activities of last year… I learned the value of the staff in helping me understand so many issues quickly. I learned who the statesmen were and I learned who the politicians were. My last clerk, Karah Kruger went back to college to pursue a law degree. I was very thankful for her diligence, encouragement, and faithfulness to work with me. This year, I will have a new clerk helping me get organized and managing my schedule. She is from Centerville and her name is Alesha Dittmer. I feel confident that she, too, will do an excellent job.
A partial list of legislative accomplishments last year include: Education Reform, Property Tax Relief, Debt Reduction, Beginning Farmer Preference, Liability Protection for farmers hosting their land for educational purposes, and Online License Renewal.
The House Republicans stuck by their principles to: 1) spend less than the state collects; 2) not use one-time money to fund on-going needs; 3) not balance the budget by intentionally underfunding programs; 4) and by returning unused tax dollars to Iowa's taxpayers. The State of Iowa is now in solid financial shape. The state has nearly $1 billion in its reserve accounts, plus a surplus of about $600 million to $700 million as Iowa's economy continues to rebound. However, some of the surplus is already committed to fund education reform and property tax programs authorized last session, and I am concerned by what the federal government might do to Iowa's economy with the increase in health insurance costs.
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Montreal man arrested after alleged internet threat
MONTREAL – A Montreal man is facing charges after being arrested for allegedly making an Internet threat against the Quebec legislature.
Quebec provincial police said in a statement that 58-year-old Daniel Seniw was arrested Wednesday evening with the assistance of Montreal police.
He was arraigned in a Montreal court on Thursday afternoon and charged with threats to cause death or bodily harm and could face a maximum sentence of ten years.
As part of his bail conditions, Seniw cannot come within 250 meters of the National Assembly nor contact anyone there.
He must also suspend his online subscription and cannot access the Internet via any other computers.
"I am very surprised. He's a church goer. He volunteers at palliative care at the St. Mary's hospital. He volunteers at a mental health board. This is one little glitch he did," his wife, Janet Sinew, told Global News at the courthouse.
"Just be careful what you write on the Internet. You could end up in the same position."
Sergeant Ann Mathieu, a spokesperson for the Sûreté du Québec, could not confirm any further details, except that Seniw was not known to previously known to police.
The threat apparently appeared on a private Facebook group called the Anglophone Community-Communauté Anglophone du Québec, where Seniw posted, "Well, I see an AK-47 walking into the National Assembly again and this issue will be passé!"
The administrators of the group did not respond to requests from Global News for an interview, however a Facebook post on the group page by Norman Simon addressed the issue.
"Last night, one of our members was arrested allegedly for incitement to violence," it noted.
Simon confirmed that Seniw would not be removed from the group unless he was convicted of a crime.
He also requested that members not discuss the incident online.
Provincial police did take the opportunity to remind the public that uttering threats, even on the Internet, is considered a criminal offence that will be taken seriously and investigated.
Sinew is scheduled to reappear at the Quebec City courthouse on February 18.
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But no, it's actually a group of ex-generals (!) who believe that bad food served to kids is making them all soft and gooey. They worry that kids will become so obese at such a rapid rate that the military will have to lower its entrance standards and that few will be able to complete the physical challenges posed by basic training.


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For Obama and his media minions, the stakes around sequester are mammoth. With the economy already tanking, the hope is to blame sequester for the president's failed left-wing economic policies. If the White House and its media can convince enough Americans that cutting the federal budget by a measly 2% is to blame for our economic problems, that will be a crowning propaganda victory for the left.
Better still, Obama and his media want to blame the GOP for these draconian, world-ending cuts. That push is all about Democrats taking over the House in 2014 and Obama owning the government for the last two years of his failed presidency. *shudder*
Thankfully, though, we are seeing some examples of real journalism in the face of Obama's propaganda campaign. Bob Woodward, the Washington Post's Glenn Kessler, and the National Journal, have all valiantly pushed back against the White House's lies. And today, The Hill joins this small but brave group by dealing a major blow to one of the White House's primary talking points: That Obama's hands are tied when it comes to prioritizing sequester cuts:
The White House says its hands are tied by the $85 billion sequester, but budget experts counter that it will have some flexibility to choose what to cut and what to save.
The wiggle-room is inviting accusations from Congress that President Obama is mismanaging the cuts.
Critics also say the flexibility could allow the administration to make the cuts more painful, in order to pressure congressional Republicans to raise taxes as part of a sequester-replacement. Some of these critics point to the decision to not deploy an aircraft carrier to the Persian Gulf. …
Some accounts are so broadly defined they give the administration a lot of flexibility. For example, the Pentagon's operations and maintenance account includes thousands of contracts and different activities from which to choose the cuts.
Republicans have argued the Navy's decision to not deploy the USS Harry Truman aircraft carrier because of sequestration — which will save roughly $300 million — could have been avoided.
Like Woodward and Kessler, this is good, honest, fact-based reporting. It's also holding the president to account for his serial-fabrications.
Is it too much to ask that we again live in a country where the media doesn't let the President of the United States get away with lying?
For the last four years, it has been too much to ask. But maybe, just maybe, a few brave media souls can encourage others.
I know it's hard on the media to watch their idol fail, but there is a bigger moral world out there than your own personal disappointment.
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Dell: Building a Brand that Endures
October 14, 2010
Executive Summary
Dell has embarked on a journey to evolve its brand to deliver results that endure over time and support business growth. In a hyper-changing landscape filled with new acquisitions and new offerings, how does Dell remain focused and steadfast in its marketing yet true to a heritage that brought the company so much success? Former SVP and CMO Erin Nelson shared the challenges that Dell has faced in recent years and three strategic areas of change that the brand has focused on over the past 18 months. Dell SVP and CMO Karen Quintos discussed the path forward to ensure that the company's brand remains relevant to every customer, employee, and stakeholder long into the future.
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"Dell: Building a Brand that Endures." Erin Nelson, former SVP and CMO, Dell Inc.; Karen Quintos, SVP and CMO, Dell, Inc. ANA 2010 Annual Conference, 10/14/10.
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Ice-T and Coco will be at Encore in Tampa on Friday
Gangsta rap legend Ice-T and his wife, the (how shall we say it?) voluptuous Playboy Playmate CoCo, will host a Friday night soiree at Encore, 1920 E Seventh Ave. That's right, Halloween is starting a day early!
If you feel like blowing $25 ($35 for the VIP treatment), the doors open at 10 p.m. The Iceman and his lady are scheduled in the building from midnight until the bash ends at 3 a.m. If you're one of the first 100 advance ticket holders, you'll get a photo op with the couple, which will make for a nice yarn to spin to the grandkids.
The duo will also judge a costume contest; first place wins $500. We hear Ice-T will be dressed as a pimp, and CoCo will have something sexy — so basically, they're coming as themselves. Around 1:30 a.m., Ice will perform a 10- to 20-minute set of old and new tunes. DJ Prostyle of 106 & Park fame will spin all night, and for good measure, the Guavettes will be in attendance, in case the ooze factor just isn't high enough for you.
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would you buy a pistolgrip shotgun?
Tommy Vercetti
March 11, 2008, 04:52 PM
I would and did, doesn't mean I enjoy shooting it but it has it's uses
March 11, 2008, 05:24 PM
My Cruiser and my staff they comfort me. :D
March 11, 2008, 05:29 PM
Nope, not unless it was for a very clearly defined special purpose (breaching etc.).
All your gaining is a few less inches in overall length. You're losing controllability and the ability for quick follow-up shots at the least.
March 11, 2008, 05:30 PM
I voted no. Pistol grips always seem to just get in my way and I dont have much use for them anymore. At first they were cool to look at, but within a short time I took them off my pumpgun.
March 11, 2008, 06:03 PM
I might buy a tactical stock, with the butt and grip but never just a pistol grip.
My roommate has a 12ga with a pistol grip, I'm not a huge fan of shooting it though. He also got the barrel nickel plated it's a beautiful gun, but not fun to shoot.
March 11, 2008, 06:19 PM
Why did I vote no? Simple. Your wrist has to absorb a lot of the recoil. Come on carpal tunnel. Methinks this is a fad that will die of natural causes.
March 11, 2008, 07:38 PM
I bought one but I also have a full stocked shotgun also, I might have voted no if I was a one gun kind of guy
March 11, 2008, 08:42 PM
knoxx spec ops with the stock
March 11, 2008, 08:43 PM
I would if the price was really good then I would replace the PG with a stock ;)
March 11, 2008, 08:52 PM
I already been there done that... It is cool to look at and is a hoot to TRY to hit clays with it. But I will flat out whoop some butt if you think I am gonna give up the full synthetic stock junior gave me off his Maverick!:D
March 11, 2008, 09:01 PM
Yes, as long as the regular stock came with it too, then I'd sell the PG on fleabay:).
March 11, 2008, 09:03 PM
No, but if you give me one I'll spring for the stock:)
March 11, 2008, 10:33 PM
Only hits count.
March 11, 2008, 11:39 PM
Yes, but only for the home defense one.
Logic there is that anything that decreases the odds of the goblin being able to get my weapon away from me is a good thing. Not that I plan on getting that close to said hypothetical goblin, you understand. But when the Marine!Goth and I were doing some tactic drills, I discovered how easy it was for him to disarm me. That didn't happen anymore with the new Mossberg (which has a pistol grip) when we ran the same scenerio when he was home on leave last month.
March 12, 2008, 12:15 AM
i have a pistol grip on my fore end, it helps carrying it all day, on the same shotgun i have a pistol gripped full stock so that i have full control and can still take it out to hit clays
March 12, 2008, 12:28 AM
I voted no & won't be putting a buttstock on my handguns either.
March 12, 2008, 12:32 AM
They are uncomfortable when fired, hard to shoot accurately, and serve no real purpose. They only exist because internet Rambo, commando wanna-be types like them and think they make them look cool...so of course I voted "yes." :D
March 12, 2008, 01:10 AM
I went with a Butler Creek folder on my 870, so i think i have the best of both worlds. They are fun to shoot, but not really practical at all. I would look into knoxx stocks.
March 12, 2008, 02:06 AM
I've got both rear and forend pistol grips made by TacStar for my Mossberg 500. It's really comfortable to shoot even with magnum 3" loads.
March 12, 2008, 02:35 AM
Logic there is that anything that decreases the odds of the goblin being able to get my weapon away from me is a good thing.
How about being able to hit accurately with it long before the goblin gets that close? PGO shotguns are not a good idea.
March 12, 2008, 04:20 AM
I bought one, didn't NEED it but I wanted something different. It came with a laser and led light. It is great fun to shoot with the laser on it because where ever the dot goes the shot goes. Without the laser, it is pretty useless and I doubt I could hit anything with it unless I am really lucky. I don't depend on it for anything other than a range toy, but it sure is fun for that purpose.
March 12, 2008, 05:30 AM
If the price is right. The pistol grip can always be replaced (usually relatively inexpensively) with a good shoulder stock.
March 12, 2008, 07:15 PM
Roscoe, absolutely - I never intend to let a goblin get within arms reach of me ever again. But there are some spots in my house that will always be blind corners/ambush points. I'm a pretty small (well short at any rate) gal and I like the Mossberg and feel more in control of it because of the grip. That's the most important thing, right?
I'll certainly never shoot clays with it! But then, that's not what I bought it for - fancy factory camo notwithstanding. It's the right size for me when the stock is collapsed back, it's easy for me to hold, hang on to and fire without ending up on my backside. This is a rather single purpose weapon - and for that purpose, it is what I want right now.
Will I grow beyond it? Possibly. Even likely. I want to learn to shoot clays with my son someday and I'm certainly going to be getting a different shotgun for that.
Thanks for your opinion.
March 12, 2008, 07:26 PM
I used to own a Mossberg 500 pistol grip ( was stolen) for home defense...easier for me to handle from a wheelchair:) Probably gonna get another one:D
March 12, 2008, 07:27 PM
Been there, done that. bought the interchangable mossberg years ago (full legnth barrell, full stock with extra 18.5 inch barrell and pistol grip) traded it for a 30-30.
just bought a modified pistol grip to put on my mossberg 500.
they are a bear to shoot but i figure ill only be shooting one or two rounds from my bed! (its leaning against my nite stand)
slick slidestop
March 12, 2008, 10:15 PM
Too awkward for me. I guess I'm old school.
I grew up hunting with traditional stocks on my shotguns, and anything different is just "wrong" even on a tactical shotgun....just doesn't feel natural to me.
March 12, 2008, 10:36 PM
March 12, 2008, 10:45 PM
My Mossberg 12ga. 18.5" pump has a Knoxx pistol grip on it that makes it fun to shoot, and it's a good HD gun for maneuvering in close quarters. It's easy to aim accurately off the hip at ranges up to 21ft.
March 13, 2008, 03:37 AM
March 13, 2008, 05:40 AM
I've never owned a shotgun that did not have a pistol grip... :cool:
March 13, 2008, 05:12 PM
If it were a really good deal, I'd buy it and install a conventional stock.
I have no use for a pistol grip shotgun.
March 13, 2008, 05:22 PM
I might buy a SxS pistol if the price was right -- but probably not a 12 gauge. A 20 or 28 would be about right.
I've shot a 16 gauge muzzle loading pistol before and you would not believe how loud that was. It didn't really sound like a gun at all, it more went "B O O M !" when it roared, with lots of fire and smoke. (how could you not like something like that?)
I have no use for a pistol grip shotgun.
Somethings don't really need a use, they are just for fun. :)
March 13, 2008, 05:50 PM
I have no need what-so-ever for one but I do want this one. :)
March 13, 2008, 07:24 PM
I really want to buy the grip for my Mossberg 500. I have other shot guns, it would be a try to shoot it, and if was a no go then no big deal. I have no experience with one at all.
March 13, 2008, 07:31 PM
I've got a Mossberg pistol grip for my 500 and a speedfeed pistol grip for my 870s (It will also fit a 500 with a different bolt and adapter that are included in the package, but I've never installed it on the 500). That all being said, the only time those go on either shotgun is when I'm travelling and want to toss a scattergun in the suitcase for hotel room defense duty. Though I'm travelling now with only a .380 and a .45. I'm undergunned!!!!:eek:
They aren't really practical for anything better than across the room shots for me. Not painful to shoot per se, but definitely not something I'd want to shoot a lot at one time.
My shotguns all wear regular buttstocks under normal circumstances.
March 13, 2008, 09:23 PM
I have a pistol grip but havn't used it yet I'm having too much fun with my knoxx
March 13, 2008, 09:52 PM
I like my forend grip. I have tried ONLY 2 brands and I can honestly say that the Advanced Technoloty forend grip SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS. I mean anyone that has ever tried it has to admit that it is a piece of junk. This thing flops from side to side and offers absolutely no stability. This is the one:
I like the TacStar forend grip:
This thing is rock solid.
March 14, 2008, 12:18 AM
No! I was checking out a few pictures of shotguns with pistol grips and thumb holes in the recent edition of "Turkey and Turkey Hunting". I might consider using one for home defense purposes, but other than that......
March 14, 2008, 03:07 PM
I just ordered a pistol grip form my Mossberg, it should be hear next week then I will have first hand knowledge.
March 14, 2008, 09:59 PM
Not meaning to hijack this thread, but did any of you guys who own a TacStar pistol grip forend have to grind away some of the material on top so it wasn't rubbing against the bottom of the barrel? I know I had to because it was taking WAY too much strength to cycle it with so much resistance. :eek:
Tommy Vercetti
March 14, 2008, 10:13 PM
I honestly hope nobody thought that I meant the foregrip :rolleyes:
March 14, 2008, 11:30 PM
Playboy, I've got that exact one. I have shot mine and a single pistol grip Mossy several times. It is not bad, in fact it is fun. The Mossberg is so light that I fird it one handed a few times...that is less fun, but do-able.
March 14, 2008, 11:33 PM
Playboy, I've got that exact one. I have shot mine and a single pistol grip Mossy several times. It is not bad, in fact it is fun. The Mossberg is so light that I fird it one handed a few times...that is less fun, but do-able.
How much did it cost you? My dealer has it for $379. I am considering getting it.
March 15, 2008, 12:09 AM
I been wanting one ever since I saw kate beckensale shoot her pistol grip shotgun at the enemy.. she came out of the water and emptied it on the BG..
She was hot, the PG Shotgun was cool ! and it had a light on it. Totally awesome,
When I get the spare funds, I'd get a maverick 88 with pistol grip.
March 15, 2008, 12:10 AM
what movie?
March 15, 2008, 01:48 AM
I vote no. To me, they're not as natural as the regular stock. Plus it took a little more space in my medium size safe. They look good no doubt it, but it's just not for me. In fact, I'm selling my fn tactical police and getting a remi 870p instead. I'm pretty sure I'm making a right decision here :p
trigger happy
March 15, 2008, 03:37 PM
I've never shot it though, just never get around to it
March 15, 2008, 05:32 PM
If you have never used a pistol grip on a shotgun for Turkey Hunting you are missing out! Its so much more comfortable to hold for long periods of time (like waiting for an active bird to get closer) and feels great when sitting on your backside waiting…
trigger happy
March 15, 2008, 06:15 PM
I look at it like it belongs in the same category as an airweight .38 loaded with +P hollowpoints
carried when everything else is too big and shot only if you absolutely have to
March 15, 2008, 06:37 PM
Nope, I like not having sprained wrists. After shooting a shotgun one handed before, I realise that its a stunt best left in Hollywood.
'Sides, i'm pretty sure anything I could do with a pistol grip, I can do just as well with my 20" wingmaster.
March 15, 2008, 08:40 PM
How much did it cost you? My dealer has it for $379. I am considering getting it.
Take a look at Remington's premier dealer version that comes with the butler creek folder. Gives you the best of both worlds.
March 15, 2008, 09:20 PM
SORRY Tommy Vercetti,
I for some reason thought you meant a forend grip.
I would have to say that if you are considering a pistol grip then to try the Advanced Technologies folding stock. That will give you the option to use the pistol grip or the stock.
trigger happy
March 16, 2008, 07:38 AM
I'm tempted to buy a nickel plated Mossberg 500
and using the pistolgrip
I already have a fullstock shotgun so
March 16, 2008, 07:55 AM
Pistol grips are great !! :)
March 16, 2008, 09:36 PM
No. I find them incredibly unattractive and uncomfortable.
March 17, 2008, 09:27 PM
Movie: it was underworld 2. Yeah, the recoil must be a sob. but I think using reduced recoil loads would make it better. I ahve yet to shoot one, I dont have a pistol grip.
March 18, 2008, 08:41 AM
Well I got my grip installed, but it has been raining for 2 days, so I have yet to shoot it. I do like the handiness, and think that it will see some use riding around in my pick-up, in always handy, hardly shot role.
March 21, 2008, 12:58 AM
nice M1 SR420,
I think i said so already but if not, Yes i would/did buy one. They are fun and easy to instal/uninstal. I have a tac*star pistol grip and a butler creek folder as well the standard stock for my 870 dick around gun. I would not use for them for anything but fun though. They aren't as accurate and i think that if i ever had a break in it would be more natural to pull a weapon to my shoulder.
March 21, 2008, 03:03 AM
Okay, you guys convinced me. I ordered a Remington "Home Defender" today. :)
March 21, 2008, 05:58 AM
If you purchase a pistol grip shotgun would it meet the requirement to be registered as an AOW since it never had a shoulder stock fitted to it? And if if it could classed as AOW, could you then shorten the barrel to less than 18"? Any experts out there? And yes, I know that one should not make use of legal advice off of a forum. I'm just curious.
March 21, 2008, 11:30 PM
Good looking choice on your Remington "home defender".
I think the Knoxx BreachersGrip will fit the 870 if you want to reduce the felt recoil 50%.
Bill DeShivs
March 22, 2008, 01:23 AM
Yes, if you wanted to make an AOW-that would be the route to go.
It still costs $200 for the tax stamp to make an AOW. Transfers are $5.
trigger happy
March 29, 2008, 09:13 AM
after having finally shot mine I don't see what all the fuss is about, it's not like it's a .454 Casull
March 29, 2008, 10:09 AM
I really like full stocks, especially wood ones. The added weight feels more balanced to me.
March 29, 2008, 11:55 AM
I would buy a Knoxx pistol grip stock as it tames the recoil. Otherwise...H**L NO!
March 29, 2008, 01:16 PM
March 30, 2008, 08:52 AM
I have a maverick 88 with the pachmyar vindicator PG on it. With 2 3/4" low recoil buck...its really not that bad. Would I want to shoot 50 rounds in a session, NO, but 10-15 rounds were not that big a deal.
March 30, 2008, 11:14 AM
I find that I can shoot a pistol grip shotty just as fast and accurately as a stocked one as long as I have a sling and a vertical foregrip on the end. Bone stock they are harder to aim but you can add items that make it just as useful. They allow you to bring the power of a shotgun into tight spaces that might not allow it. And with a forward grip to spread the recoil out... it isn't as taxing to shoot. I personally would rather have a stock on a shotgun with an 18" barrel. But I have a SBS 870 with 12" barrel and it definitely has a hogue pistol grip and vertical foregrip and even a M6X on it. 4 + 1 and fits into a small backpack with ease. I can hide it under a basic jacket with my sling.
March 30, 2008, 11:44 AM
Okay, you guys convinced me. I ordered a Remington "Home Defender" today.
you get the folder or the double pistol grip version??
March 30, 2008, 01:16 PM
you get the folder or the double pistol grip version??
The double pistol grip version. :)
March 30, 2008, 02:20 PM
I had the folder version. Or more appropriately I still have it, but I sold the folding stock and put a speedfeed II on it. The folder was not terribly comfortable to shoot when extended.
I've been thinking about picking up a forward pistol grip for my Mossberg 500 that I have a rear pistol grip on right now. It is my travel shotgun for motel room defense :D.
April 2, 2008, 06:07 PM
I just got back from the range. I put 25 rounds of 7 1/2 remmi bird shot and 15 rounds of wolf 00 buck through my maverick 88 with vindicator pistol grip. Again it was really not that bad. I easily hit a man sized silhouette target and swinging plates out to 25 yards. I plan on putting the stock back on in the fall once I am done with all of my traveling/vacations. That pistol grip allows me to slide the whole shotgun into a little beach umbrella bag that makes it VERY unobtrusive while traveling!!!
April 2, 2008, 09:10 PM
'Sides, i'm pretty sure anything I could do with a pistol grip, I can do just as well with my 20" wingmaster.
Try some room clearing and maneuvering in tight doorways and halls. Just like my girl says, those extra few inches make all the difference. Given that shorties are primarily meant for "across the room" and "down the hall" distances, unless you live in a mansion I don't believe there will be any issues with accuracy loss from not having a full buttstock at that kind of range.
April 2, 2008, 10:37 PM
Just like my girl says, those extra few inches make all the difference
Are you sure she includes the word "extra" in that sentence? :D
April 2, 2008, 11:11 PM
it looks cool but its totaly useless for HD.
Boris Bush
April 2, 2008, 11:25 PM
I opted to getting a folding stock for my current shotty instead of getting a new one
Here is a pic of the stock I will be adding.
http://media4.dropshots.com/photos/104896/20080402/212458.jpg (http://www.dropshots.com/)
April 2, 2008, 11:54 PM
I opted to getting a folding stock for my current shotty instead of getting a new one
Those are nice. I almost went that route myself. Now that you have your own you will not have to borrow that little red headed dude's. :)
April 3, 2008, 12:18 AM
if the price was right then yes. I just bought this (not the actual one in the photo) yesterday for $199 at a pawn shop. Mossberg 500 tactical.
April 3, 2008, 01:16 AM
I like the pistol grip in combination with a butt stock (similar to an AR setup) for ergonomics purposes. I've never messed with any stockless pistol grips....however, having a pistol grip is great when it comes to trying to buy a short barrel shotgun (like a breaching gun) since it is actually considered a pistol.
Bill DeShivs
April 3, 2008, 01:58 AM
Ummm,.... no-it's not.
April 3, 2008, 06:02 AM
Yes with the butt stock. Not pg only(cant butt stroke)
"I voted no & won't be putting a buttstock on my handguns either." You need a T/C Contender:D
April 3, 2008, 09:48 AM
I voted Yes, but I would only put on a pistol grip if it included a side or top folding stock.
Boris Bush
April 3, 2008, 09:58 AM
Muzzle checks work just as good as buttstrokes and keep the muzzle oriented towards the person(s) you want hurt.
I used the muzzle check a few times and it works fairly well.....
April 3, 2008, 10:55 AM
Greetings all.
I put a Pachmayer Vindicator pistol grip set on my Mossberg 500 12G with a 18" barrel. I love it! My main reason for installing it is for better maneuverability inside my home and keeping it in smaller places.
I read a little of the first page and the guy who says a pistol grip only takes off a few inches is WRONG, try 8"-12".
Alot of people complain about the recoil. While it's definately potent, I don't think they know the proper method for shooting. You have to pull foward with your pump hand. If you let your trigger hand do all the work, yeah it's gonna hurt! I'm a tall, Gumbi(super slim) figured man and I control the recoil quite well. Once you figure out the right way to hold it, controllability and follow-up shots are no problem.
On the accuracy issue. I'm very accurate with my 18" cylinder bore with buckshots(full power or low-recoil) and full power slugs. I can hit a man sized target at 30+ feet with the gun at my waist. If you need better accuracy, pull it up to your face and use the sight. I've seen and read about people almost knocking themselves out trying that, but I have no problem doing it.
Lastly, if recoil is still a problem, use some low-recoil ammunition. It comes in buckshot and slugs. Although stick to full power ammo if your using a semi-auto or it might not cycle all the way.
I hope this helps someone considering a pistol grip, try it out! They don't cost that much. Take a look at the Pachmayer vindicator or the Hogue tamer.
Take care
April 3, 2008, 08:37 PM
normally I have my Knoxx stock on
but thanks to this thread I figured I would try the pistol grip I bought a long time ago and still havent used
April 3, 2008, 10:28 PM
I picked up a pistol grip for my 835 Ulti-Mag. It is fun to play with at the range, but I find that the slide release is hard to operate:
I will keep the standard stock on it most of the time.....
April 21, 2008, 12:04 AM
The key is to manage the recoil.
My wife's home defense gun is a 20" Mossberg 500 with a Pachmyr pistol grip. I taught her to hold it just under her right breast (snug to her lower rib cage, but off to the side a bit), with her hand/wrist/forearm all in a straight line. She knows to let her body and joints (shoulder and elbow) absorb the recoil. She's a tiny little thing but she'll shoot full power slugs and 00 buck with no problem, 2 3/4 and 3". She'll empty the 7 or 8 rounds with a smile. Follow-up shots are fast. And she can hit what she's aiming at, too. 15-25 yards, no problem. The longest distance in our house is about 6 or 7 yards.
She takes more of a pounding with my stock buttstock on my home defense gun.
I wouldn't want her mad at me, that's for sure. :D
April 21, 2008, 01:28 AM
I bought this "Pachmayr Vindicator" pistol grip for my 18" Remington 870. The one on top
I love it. It's got the nice "over hand" revolver style grip rather than the "semi auto" style you see on most shotguns (which I think makes it easier to point and better for absorbing recoil). It's very easy to point and shoot with. I could hit my own hand thrown clays all day with it. I believe it to be more useful *For me* for home defense, because you have no long stock to get hung up on your shirt or the wall or anything. And incase you need to be moving quickly though your house, or just taking a quick "Point" shot rather than a full "raise to your shoulder and aim" shot, it works much better. And with practice, it would be just as effective, but with the added bonus of being quicker, and less cumbersome.
At the same time. I still prefer shooting my shotgun with the regular stock on. And I usually just leave it on. My Pachmayr grip does alot of sitting around. But I'd never get rid of it. If anything, I'd just go buy another 870 so I can have both grip options at any one time:D
April 21, 2008, 05:31 PM
Another satisfied vindicator owner here. I put the pistol grip on my maverick 88 for travel with the family in places where I cant (legally) carry a revolver. Once travel season is over the full stock goes back on!
April 21, 2008, 06:53 PM
Well I am kind of new to this entire gun thing. My first shotgun was in fact a pistol grip - Mossberg Maverick 88. It is mainly for HD.
It should do the job, no!? yay?
April 21, 2008, 07:28 PM
If the pistol grip was included in a going-through-a-divorce-must-sell-everything-for-dirt-cheap package deal, then sure I'll buy one. I won't use it though. The regular stock is so much more forgiving while clearing trees from the hip.:D
And Playboy- I hope you have long monkey arms for that forward pistol grip. It's akward.
April 21, 2008, 10:23 PM
I would and currently own a double pistol grip 870. Solely for home defense and it's a blast to shoot. I take it out about once a month with my in laws and a few friends and it gets the most play time out of anything else there. Although I think the Saiga 20 will be getting the most play this time around...Going this saturday :D Saiga 20, 870 double pistol grip, Stoeger sxs 12 gauge, Marlin 1895XLR 45-70, CZ 452 Lux, XD40, Maverick 88 w/overfold stock, Mod 60 .22...Just to name a few that'll be attending :)
April 22, 2008, 12:21 AM
still havn't made it to the range with my pistol grip :( but I saw this and the recoil doesn't look that bad
April 22, 2008, 11:17 AM
I wouldn't. My HD shotgun has a speed-feed stock, which, in addition to holding a few extra rounds, it gives just a little bit extra leverage in case I need to use it as a club.
April 23, 2008, 03:04 AM
April 24, 2008, 09:47 AM
After the install on my Mossberg 500 I have decided that it is a mixed bag. It makes that weapon almost useless, with the one exception being defense. But when handled correctly it would do fine in that role, and be much handier to have and deploy. The above post on holding the weapon tight to your body is pretty close to what I came up with when I started messing around with the idea. Grip the pistol grip in the strong hand, place the wrist and meaty part of the palm tight against your strong side peck, with the elbow pulled tight to the side of the rib cage. This will put the line of sight 6-8 inches lower that if used in a conventional stock manner. Short range, house clearing distance, hits are very easy to obtain, and recoil is not as bad as it feels in the "hip fire" method. This also keeps much less gun from protruding to far in front of you, which could lead to a gun grab in defense situation.
April 24, 2008, 10:25 AM
Seems to me that one could fire a conventionally-stocked shotgun "from the hip" or with the stock tucked under the armpit and essentially have the same thing as a pistol grip with none of the disadvantages. In the rare circumstance, that is, that one needed that badly to cut down on overall length. Just seems pistol-grip only is giving up too much for what it gives. Just MO but I have no argument with those who like them.
April 24, 2008, 10:44 AM
No, I totally agree. My above post is simply my experimentation. I prefer a stock. Like I said it renders the weapon almost useless. I just picked up a $15 pistol grip, simply to give it a try, and discovered it was not near as unpractical as some have said. It does limit your use with the arm. It can no longer be effectively used for an impromptu quail gun, or varmint disposer, like my Mossberg has done it in the past, since I store it behind the seat in my pickup.
April 24, 2008, 09:12 PM
ding ding ding ding!....
Laz gets it. You can always tuck the butt under your arm to reduce the weapons length, but you still have the stock for a successful HIT- which is the point.
Boris Bush
April 24, 2008, 10:12 PM
ding ding ding ding!...
A full stock can not be concealed very well under a long jacket or manuvered in as tight of a space. Or in states like MI where these shotguns are pistols by state law they can be kept in the car, for the carry permit does not allow long guns to be carried on said permits.
That said I can hit out to 25 yards pretty well with the two some of my buddies have. I even fired some 3" magnum 15 pellet OO buck with nary a problem......
April 24, 2008, 10:45 PM
Take it to your local bowling pin shoot...how well does work?
April 25, 2008, 01:46 AM
would you buy a pistolgrip shotgun?
No thanks. Pistol grips, folding stocks, etc. are all a little too "tacticool" for a home / self-defense weapon imho. My 4'10" grandmother (at the tender age of 83) didn't need all that stuff when she "coaxed" an intruder back out the kitchen window of her farm house and neither do I.
May 5, 2008, 04:13 PM
May 6, 2008, 12:58 AM
I answered yes as I have a SpeedFeed stock with pistol grip on my 'HD' (it's the back-up to the back-up) Rem 870. Just a pistol grip? No, no use for a shoot from the waist gun or a breacher. Shots from the shoulder, well aimed and well executed, that's the way it's done.
May 11, 2008, 12:41 AM
well I finnally got a chance to shoot my 870 with the pistol grip only
I shot 25rds 10 #8 target loads, 5 #5 turkey loads, 5 00 buck, 5 1 1/4oz slugs
I had no problems with recoil or hitting COM at 7yrds from the hip maybe it was the angle of the grip instead of the more vertical ones other people have. It was funny the turkey loads had the most recoil were the loudest by far and spit a 1 foot flame out the barrel :D.
It was fun but I think I'll keep my Knoxx stock on I feel like I have more control with it.
May 11, 2008, 08:25 AM
If you want a pistol grip, then go buy a pistol, not a shotgun.
May 15, 2008, 01:04 PM
I have had a couple over the years, and contrary to what others have said they are very fun to shoot, and "accuracy" c'mon, its a shot gun we are not talking ten rings here. The recoil is much easier to bear because your arm is not rigid. Your arm is supposed to swing backwards a little to absorb the recoil, as opposed to your sholder being rigid and taking the full force of it. I have never been able to shoot 30-40 shells from the sholder comfortably, but I can shoot my Winchester speed pump all day with the pistol grip.
May 15, 2008, 03:01 PM
I have had a couple over the years, and contrary to what others have said they are very fun to shoot, and "accuracy" c'mon, its a shot gun we are not talking ten rings here. The recoil is much easier to bear because your arm is not rigid. Your arm is supposed to swing backwards a little to absorb the recoil, as opposed to your sholder being rigid and taking the full force of it. I have never been able to shoot 30-40 shells from the sholder comfortably, but I can shoot my Winchester speed pump all day with the pistol grip.
those of us who shoot clays will shoot 200-300 a day...no way from a pistol grip...not just the accuracy, the sheer amount of recoil into your hand, as opposed to spreading it out over your shoulder area would hurt like hell....
May 15, 2008, 03:05 PM
those of us who shoot clays will shoot 200-300 a day...no way from a pistol grip...not just the accuracy, the sheer amount of recoil into your hand, as opposed to spreading it out over your shoulder area would hurt like hell....
That is not what pistol grip shotguns are made for...so using that as a reason to detract from their usability is like dissing crowbars because they do not make good hammers. :)
May 15, 2008, 04:19 PM
I wouldn't mind the sort of pistol grip Nemesis has on his. The angle looks much more comfortable and natural than a standard pistol grip. It looks as though it would handle the same as a regular cut-down stock.
May 15, 2008, 07:33 PM
your right Hedley it feels like shooting a standard stock from the hip
It's a speedfeed
May 15, 2008, 08:48 PM
That is not what pistol grip shotguns are made for...so using that as a reason to detract from their usability is like dissing crowbars because they do not make good hammers.
and a pistol grip is no where as accurate or comfortable as a shoulder stock...never was, and never will be.........
May 16, 2008, 02:37 PM
Pistol grip shot guns are not supposed to be that accurate, they are generally scatterguns
May 18, 2008, 07:12 PM
NO.I have never had the urge to want others to think that I was a Rambo kind of guy.I can see no other purpose in having one.Being that I have bought a lot of usless things,I can understand the ones that do.alfred
May 18, 2008, 08:16 PM
No I don't have a use for one. But I will defend your right to own one.
May 20, 2008, 03:55 AM
I have a 12ga., 18 1/2" Mossberg with a Knoxx Breacher's grip for H.D., that I comfortably shoot one-handed just for fun.
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The Comedy Store is one of the most legendary stand-up clubs in the country, if not the world. Opened in 1972, the venue is the place for rising comedians to be seen and has been host to superstar comedians like Richard Pryor, Johnny Carson, Rodney Dangerfield, Robin Williams, Dave Chappelle, and too many more stellar names to list.
This audiobook compiles some of the best routines in The Comedy Store's history in celebration of its 20th anniversary. Comics featured include Jim Carrey, David Letterman, and many more.
As the comedians honed their craft on "The Store's" stages, the industry took notice. Many of today's superstar comedians attribute the meteoric rise of their show business careers to their time spent at The Comedy Store.
And they're all here, and many others paying tribute to the club that started it all...the world famous Comedy Store.
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"This should be less than free."
I was expecting 5 minute clips from a dozen big names that came out of the comedy store that would be worth the asking price. About half the program is describing what it was like to work for the comedy store. The rest mostly not the really big names or not doing their best stuff. It is like a cut rate documentary that could not afford to license good historic footage.
"Not much comedy in the comedy title"
Short on jokes.
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