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September 11th. It's one of those dates that will always bring to mind where you were when you witnessed the destruction of the World Trade Center and the tremendous damage to the Pentagon. As hours became days and days, weeks, the world watched as common people performed uncommonly brave deeds.
"That's our job. That's what we do." Those were words spoken by an exhausted New York firefighter when asked how the men could enter those burning and collapsing towers. A week later on September 18, a team of 62 volunteers with the New Mexico Task Force One, along with four dogs certified in urban disaster search and rescue operations, arrived in Washington, D.C. to help with the recovery efforts at the Pentagon. The dogs were assigned the task of finding people buried beneath tons of rubble.
Lette Birn and her eight-year-old black Labrador Retriever, Guinness, were two of the Task Force members sent to the Pentagon. Guinness is trained to search in urban and wilderness situations, and for cadavers. The two have been training for years and this was a monumental assignment for them. Though no one was found alive, Guinness and the rest of the team were so effective at their jobs that they finished the assignment early and returned home on September 23.
For the search, Birn had to wear a special suit and respirator as protection against possible contaminants. As a result, she could not give clear, audible instructions to Guinness through the respirator. Guinness learned quickly that when he heard Birn's distorted voice, he needed to look at her and she successfully directed him with hand signals.
When asked what the high point of this assignment was, Birn answered that it was working as a team. All of the rescue personnel, the firefighters and others, became very close. The rescuers, who had been removing rubble by hand, piece by piece, learned to appreciate the dogs. The dogs could go directly to a spot and indicate they had found a victim. The rescuers could then dig in a specific spot. Birn says she would have loved to stay longer, but their assignment ended once the building was secured to the point that the FBI could take over.
Birn and Guinness are members of the Mountain Canine Corps (MC2), the Search and Rescue organization out of Los Alamos, one of the oldest groups of its kind in the United States. Michael Warren, the leader of MC2, says that this group certifies three specialties of Search and Rescue dogs: tracking, air scent and cadaver. His group trains twice a week with their dogs and they try to train under different conditions.
Guardian/Trainer Lette Birn, State Senator Mary Jane Garcia, Guinness, Animal Advocate/Actress Ali MacGraw, Sage, and Guardian/Trainer Diane Whetsel compare notes at the 2001 APNM Milagro Awards.
Dogs used in search and rescue work are trained for specific tasks. Air scenting dogs are used to search for missing persons who might have wandered off a short distance and become lost, or people who may be trapped. Depending upon the conditions, these dogs can pick up a scent in the air over a quarter-mile away. They can find people who are buried beneath rubble or even victims under water. Tracking dogs can follow the tracks of someone by following where that person went. These dogs are used for people who may have gotten lost and for criminal investigations. Mantrackers are dogs who can be given something to sniff that came from the person for whom they are searching. They can differentiate between "their" person and others in a populated area. Cadaver dogs are trained to search for bodies, either above or below ground.
Dogs are perfect for search and rescue since they are very smart, bond closely with their human, and can be trained to communicate their find. Their sense of smell can be 100,000 times better than a human's, according to experts. Dogs capture the scent from a human from the microscopic tissue particles that each of us continually sheds. These particles become airborne and disburse the scent through the air like a cloud of smoke.
Birn explains that a good dog is one with the right temperament, not a specific breed, though the pug-faced dogs do not have the best senses of smell. A good dog needs to be one that will search by smell, not sight, and not give up until the object of the search is found. Dogs who weigh between 40 to 70 pounds are about the right size, states Birn. Guinness is large, weighing in at about 90 pounds.
During training, the dogs are taught small skills. Each skill is rewarded until it becomes a multi-step task. Whatever the individual dog likes as a reward, he or she gets once on the job. Guinness's reward is to play tug with a tennis ball on rope.
The dogs need to train under different conditions. Birn has taken Guinness to California to climb over rubble, and has flown him to Austria to train, just to see how they do things over there. She takes him for daily walks and has him walk over different textures that she might find, such as cattle guards or rocks.
Birn says all of the dogs who worked with the Task Force at the Pentagon were amazing. Two were young. All had to spend time around noisy airplanes, in unfamiliar surroundings, in a bombed out building, and had go through decontamination, yet none of them ever flinched or became stressed. Her pride in these 4-legged professionals was very apparent in her voice. The dogs' attitude seemed to be, That's our job. That's what we do.
Freddi Hetler is a writer who lives in Eldorado, south of Santa Fe with her husband, six dogs, and four cats. In her spare time she volunteers for the Santa Fe Animal Shelter & Humane Society and the El Dorado Fire and Rescue Service.
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I was also wondering about the endl thing. One tutorial I read used it all the time, othertimes it used \n. The book I'm reading now uses \n and in future efforts I will use \n.
What else could I use besides system ("cls");? Remember, this is only my second program.

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TAMPA BAY, Fla. - There were no klieg lights or microphones around the winner's circle last Wednesday like there were after Fort Larned won the Breeders' Cup Classic last November, but his trainer, Ian Wilkes, was still smiling broadly when he posed for victory pictures three times, with Carolina Cruisin, Forever Vow, and Nicklaus Way.
Wilkes, who was selected as the track's trainer of the month after winning six races in recent weeks, brought Fort Larned to Tampa last winter while trying to get his handicap star to take his game to a higher level. Fort Larned captured the 1 1/16-mile, $60,000 Challenger Stakes here and Wilkes said that win jump-started Fort Larned's year.
"If he hadn't won the Challenger I wouldn't have tried him in the Skip Away," said Wilkes, referring to a race at Gulfstream that Fort Larned won in track-record time. "It really turned out to be a pivotal race as things turned out."
Wilkes, who came to this country from Australia to work with trainer Carl Nafzger, was involved in the development of Kentucky Derby winners Unbridled and Street Sense and gives Nafzger much of the credit for his success.
"It all stems from the program Carl set up a number of years ago and a great group of owners," Wilkes said.
Wilkes trains at Palm Meadows but also has 16 stalls here and says Tampa fits well in his stable's plans.
"It's a kind surface and the horses do well here," he said.
The trainer is pointing recent local winner Cheechako and Magic Hour for the $50,000 Manatee at seven furlongs on Feb. 9.
◗ Speaking of local connections to Breeders' Cup winners, jockey Willie Martinez was on hand with Team Trinniberg when the Breeders' Cup Sprint winner was awarded top sprinter honors at the recent Eclipse Awards dinner. Martinez rode Trinniberg to victory in the Breeders' Cup Sprint.


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I'm sending the two statements in one single pass-through query. Both statements are separated by a semicolon. I even tried to remove the carridge return at the end of the first statement, but of course, it has no effect. Postgres handles the sql commands fine. But I'm not able to get the return value from "func_test_insert", as soon as I add an sql command BEFORE the function call. BUT, if I add this SQL command AFTER the function call, it's OK. Apparently, the first statement is considered to be the one that returns data. All others are executed, but their return value is discarded. I guess this is an Access issue, more than an ODBC one, right? -----Message d'origine----- De : Jeff Eckermann [mailto:jeff_eckermann(at)yahoo(dot)com] Envoyé : jeudi, 6. novembre 2003 16:35 À : Philippe Lang; pgsql-odbc(at)postgresql(dot)org Objet : Re: [ODBC] Access, pass-through queries and isolation level > Now if I want to change the isolation level before: > > set transaction isolation level serializable; > select * from public."func_test_insert"(); > > ... I cannot get the inserted id back in Access, > from the pass-through query. Apprently, since the > first query does not return any row, Access > considers the whole query does not return anything. Are you sending the two statements as separate queries in your code? If so, try sending both as a single query, i.e. one string, with a semicolon separating the two. Access doesn't know you are sending two statements in one, and Postgres will handle them just fine.
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Friday, Sept. 6, 2013 | 2:26 p.m.
An infusion of new leadership is in store for Metro Police as a senior officer announced his retirement today, following the retirement of another assistant sheriff in July and Sheriff Doug Gillespie's announcement that he will not seek reelection in 2014.
Assistant Sheriff Greg McCurdy announced he is retiring effective Oct. 3., Metro Police spokesman Bill Cassell said.
McCurdy was in charge of the Homeland Security and Law Enforcement Investigation units within the police department.
McCurdy is leaving to take a position as vice president of corporate security for SLS Las Vegas, a new hotel scheduled to open in fall 2014 in what was once the Sahara.
McCurdy, 52, joined Metro in 1983.
At the end of July, Assistant Sheriff Ted Moody announced his retirement from the force before later declaring his intentions to run for sheriff.


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Compared with the mass of modern Bells and Eurocopters that fly for the myriad law enforcement agencies protecting and serving Californians, the air unit of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department (LASD) emerges as something of a one-off. In addition to a fleet of 12 AStar B2s, which provide day-to-day support to the officers in the black-and-whites, the largest sheriff's flight department in the nation also fields four aging ex-U.S. Navy SH-3Hs.
For most of the year the twin-engine H-3s of Air Rescue 5 remain on standby for 13 hours every day, at one end of Long Beach Airport, ready to deploy on search-and-rescue (SAR) missions or to transport teams drawn from agencies and units such as the FBI, SWAT, arson/explosives or K-9–or even as stand-alone law-enforcement teams.
Every day, one of them also positions to a former U.S. Army Nike missile base in the San Gabriel Mountains, known as Barley Flats. Its primary role is search-and-rescue, and the crew remains on daylight standby to rescue climbers or walkers who lose their way or underestimate the speed at which conditions often deteriorate.
"Weekends are the crews' busiest times," said LASD flight operations lieutenant Mike Barnum. "People overextend themselves or decide that, if they are leaving warm weather in the Los Angeles area, it must be OK farther up as well."
The 1960s-era H-3s routinely operate with two pilots (from eight in the unit) and three paramedics, one of whom acts as crew chief and hoist operator.
Maintenance Requirements
With non-folding rotorheads and fixed landing gear, the H-3s are particularly light aircraft. In fact, with an 11,000-pound basic and 22,500-pound mtow, they can lift more than their own weight.
Keeping such mature helicopters in the air sometimes calls for a blend of experienced engineering and creative procurement skills, according to engineering chief captain Jim Di Giovanni. "For every hour airborne, we invest around 12 hours of maintenance." By modern standards, that's a lot of maintenance.
"The U.S. Navy gave us the helicopters in the first place and, nowadays, sends us its 'canned' engines," he said. "We currently have 21 of them in the hangar–some complete and others in module form. We get some components from HSI, which is owned by Sikorsky, or one of a small number of vendors around North America. Navy items are procured through a government office that handles the resale of surplus military equipment. If we need to buy new parts from them, one of our vendors makes the purchase for us.
"On occasion," he said, "the helicopters don't make it easy for us. Not so long ago, one of them went AOG with a broken fuel control unit on the helipad of a children's hospital." The machine blocked the pad for three days and the LASD ended up manhandling a replacement engine onto the roof via a service elevator.
As for the pilots, the navy provenance of the big helicopters can lead to some novel licensing issues. As military surplus, the type is not FAA certified so the pilots can have no type ratings as such. Instead, they are rated by individual airframe serial number.
In addition, they cannot log their hours in the traditional way. According to one of the pilots, Sergeant Pat McKernan, most pilots are not concerned about the inability to log flight time in the H-3 because they enjoy flying the aircraft so much. They earn and maintain their commercial instrument ratings on a suitably equipped AStar.
The type rating becomes an issue only if the aircrew decide to move on, and that does not happen often. Indeed, McKernan told AIN that he could not remember the last time one of them left for new pastures.
Barnum agrees. "Candidates are invariably long-serving deputy sheriffs who serve as police observers before taking pilot training and transitioning onto the H-3."
He explained, "All our deputy pilots started as observers. If selected for a pilot position, they spend time in a light helicopter as a patrol pilot. Once they have reached the required experience level they may apply for a rescue pilot position when an opening occurs."
Varied Missions
Barnum estimates that "traditional" law enforcement flying accounts for 65 to 70 percent of his team's yearly average of 900 hours, while SAR operations take up 10 to 15 percent. The balance is spent on surveillance, transportation and training. The AStar fleet, in comparison, racks up as many as 9,000 hours annually.
The crews enjoy an enviable variety of flying but, acknowledged Barnum, the job has its downside. AStar pilots are accustomed to taking tactical command of an ongoing operation. "Only the best of them are picked to fly the H-3 but, ironically, these pilots are normally controlled from the ground and, as a result, surrender an element of responsibility and tactical awareness."
McKernan began flying 11 years ago at Western Operations (a commercial and public service training operation in Rialto, Calif.). He continued to work there as an instructor, while assigned to Aero Bureau as a tactical flight officer. He became a pilot at Aero Bureau and, later, a flight instructor for the LASD. So far, he has logged some 3,500 hours of flight time in MD 500/600s, AS 350B2s and the H-3s.
He told AIN, "It's a daylight-only operation at present but we want to transition to NVG [night vision goggle] operations within the next 12 months."
The majority of pilots in the Air Rescue 5 program hold commercial pilot certificates with instrument ratings. All pilots are given training equivalent to a type rating in the H-3 during initial transition training. They are then assigned to an experienced pilot who will conduct mission training and mentor them in the rescue and other roles.
The unit has use of the U.S. Navy's H-3 simulator at NAS North Island in San Diego. At least once a year, pilots attend refresher training in the simulator and are given a currency/checkride in the aircraft. The two training periods are usually set up so that the pilot receives formal checkrides in the H-3 airframe every six months. He also receives two in-flight currency/checkrides in the AStar and, again, these are staggered so that the pilot gets a currency/checkride, in one or the other, every 90 days.
Every crewmember is trained in SWAT procedures, mountaineering, paramedic skills and diving. And they need them all. McKernan recalled that, during just one working day, they "flew a SAR operation in the mountains at 10,000 feet, followed by a dive operation to help a drowning victim and afterwards carried a SWAT team on an operation. During a single mission we might transport 20 SWAT team members to a remote location and carry two or more casualties, depending on the extent of their injuries.
"In a county as large as Los Angeles, a deputy sheriff in a remote desert area might have to wait 30 to 40 minutes for help from a ground unit. Our crewmembers are equipped and trained to be inserted into any situation and take direct action."


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Ivanovic backs Mourinho over Hazard
Branislav Ivanovic has welcomed Jose Mourinho's disciplined approach at Chelsea after Eden Hazard was reprimanded this week.
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Hazard, 22, was dropped from Chelsea's 3-0 win over Schalke on Wednesday as punishment for missing training on Monday, reportedly because he was running late after forgetting his passport.
Belgium international Hazard is set to return to the side for this weekend's Premier League game against West Brom, and Ivanovic believes he will learn from his mistake.
"It is important for the team to accept this as a discipline," Ivanovic said in The Times. "Eden will feature in the next game. It means we are serious and we are all together and I don't think he has a problem with that."
Gary Cahill echoed Ivanovic's sentiments, insisting the squad is united under boss Mourinho, who was critical of the team following their 2-0 loss at Newcastle last weekend.
"They had their chat one to one and the situation is dealt with," Cahill said. "Eden Hazard is a terrific player and we obviously need him in the squad and available, so of course we look forward to having him back.
"The manager makes decisions and he does not have to explain every single one. But the camp is a happy one, especially when we are winning games.
"And the fact that players know exactly where they stand, but there are no long-term grudges -- I suppose you could say that is what people talk about as the Mourinho effect."
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Jharkhand bandh near total and peaceful
March 05, 2007 08:24 IST
Last Updated: March 05, 2007 13:56 IST
The dawn-to-dusk Jharkhand bandh, called by the Jharkhand Mukti Morcha and supported by all major political parties in protest against the killing of JMM MP Sunil Mahato, evoked a spontaneous response with train services being badly hit.
The bandh, which began amidst tight security, was peaceful except for stray incidents of stone-pelting and road blockades at various places of the state, including Gamariah, where Mahato's residence is situated.
The bandh evoked near total response in Santhal Pargan region comprising Dumka, Sahebganj, Deogarh, Jamtara, Pakur and Godda, official sources said.
The response in Jamshedpur, Hazaribag and Dhanbad was also near total, they said.
Though roads were blocked at strategic points across the state, there was no untoward incident.
Ranchi Senior Superintendent of Police, M S Bhatia, told PTI, "There are jams at a few places in Ranchi, but the bandh is incident-free."
Train services were badly hit at Jamshedpur, Dhanbad, Pakur and other places while the Grand Trunk road wore a deserted look.
Long distance bus services were also affected by the bandh.
Though most educational institutions were closed, secondary board examinations were continuing as scheduled.
Emergency services like hospitals and water services have been exempted from the bandh supported by the Congress, BJP, CPI(M), CPI, RJD, AJSU and LJP.
Mahto was killed along with two of his bodyguards and a party colleague at Bakuria town, 40 km from Jamshedpur, on Sunday.


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which webserver does your client want to implement? if webserver is Apache does your client favor any JavaScript Library <Dojo/Scriptaculous/Flex> ? If JSLibrary = Dojo I would look at JSON (JavaScript Object Notation language) http://today.java.net/pub/a/today/2006/04/27/building-ajax-with-dojo-and-json.html if you want a full service multi-threaded solution you can implement your Dojo controls delivering JSON results to Struts http://struts.apache.org/18.104.22.168/docs/dojo-head.html Martin ______________________________________________ Disclaimer and confidentiality note Everything in this e-mail and any attachments relates to the official business of Sender. This transmission is of a confidential nature and Sender does not endorse distribution to any party other than intended recipient. Sender does not necessarily endorse content contained within this transmission. > To: pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org > From: dianne(at)wellsgaming(dot)com > Subject: [GENERAL] Stroring html form settings > Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:38:20 -0700 > > Hello, > > I have some html forms that I save the settings into the database, > things like which item was selected in the menu and if a checkbox was > checked. The table looks like this: > > user_id | report_id | info > ---------+-----------+------------------------------------------------ > 111 | 1 | A:::::CHECKED::::CHECKED::::CHECKED:: > 111 | 2 | A:::CHECKED:: > 111 | 3 | A::CHECKED:CHECKED::CHECKED::::CHECKED::: > > The info column has the settings separated with a : and consecutive > colons mean the user didn't make a selection. Would this be the way > to store them? > > I've done some searching and I could use XML (I will read some > tutorials after writing this email). But there may be other ways and > I'm just too much of a newbie to know. I'm using Postgresql 8.1.11 > and PHP on CentOS 5.2. > > Thanks in advance. > > Dianne > > -- > Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org) > To make changes to your subscription: > http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life together—at home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/
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Every Child Ready to Read
Every Child Ready to Read
The Barrie Public Library has adopted the Every Child Ready to Read program, an early childhood literacy program developed by the American Library Association (ALA). In June 2011, the American Library Association released an updated and expanded the 2nd edition of the Every Child Ready to Read program. The following information is based on the new edition.
Early literacy is what children know about reading and writing before they can actually read and write. Studies have shown that children get ready to read years before they start school. Parents and caregivers play a critical role in developing early literacy skills in children beginning at birth.
Help your child get ready to read with these simple activities:
Talking with children helps them quickly learn oral language, one of the most critical early literacy skills. The experience of self expression also stimulates brain development, which underlies all learning.
For detailed information, read the Talking Activities Ideas PDF.
Singing (which also includes rhyming) increases children's awareness of and sensitivity to the sounds in words. This helps prepare children to decode print (written language).
For detailed information, read the Singing Activities Ideas PDF.
Reading together, or shared reading, remains the single most effective way to help children become proficient readers.
For detailed information, read the Reading Activities Ideas PDF.
Writing and reading go together. Writing helps children learn that letters and words stand for sounds and that print has meaning.
For detailed information, read the Writing Activities Ideas PDF.
Play is one of the primary ways young children learn about the world. General knowledge is an important literacy skill that helps children understand books and stories once they begin to read.
For detailed information, read the Playing Activities Ideas PDF.
How can the library help?
The Every Child Ready to Read program is modeled in the library's storytimes through songs, stories, rhymes and activities. Each week, library staff will demonstrate different techniques that will help your child get ready to read.
Right from the start, you are your child's best teacher!
- You know more about your child than anyone else.
- You are in the best position to help your child get ready to read. You can do activities for short bits of time throughout the day to offset their short attention spans.
- You know your children best and can help them learn in ways and times that are easiest for them. Parents are tremendous role models - if your children see that you think reading is important and enjoy it, they will follow your lead. Children learn best by doing - and they love doing things with YOU.
Other resources and background information about the Every Child Ready to Read programme can be found on the American Library Association web site.
For more information, including additional book suggestions, visit the library and talk to the Children's staff or call 705-728-1010 ext. 7019.


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We headed over to the harbor to experience the Johnny's Harborside Winter Wednesday Cioppino night. As an e-club member, I also had a coupon for two-for-one starters or salads. While "Fresh Catch Your Way" is still a mainstay of the menu, Chef Scott Delk, who arrived at Johnny's after the closing of Theo's, has added his own touch to the fresh and flavorful presentations.
Although Taco and Tequila nights are Tuesdays and Thursdays and house special margaritas are just $7, the combinations were too unique to ignore.
Served in a large, almost pint-sized glass, the X-Rated Rita ($9) was made with 1800 tequila, X-rated Fusion Liqueur, a blend of French vodka and blood oranges, fresh lime, and sweetened with agave nectar; slightly sweet but still refreshingly tart. The Mango Margarita ($8.50) was fruity fresh.
Tender parsley-dusted Drunken Clams ($14) were bathed in a
garlic and beer broth as a perfect nibbling starter.
The huge Cobb Salad ($12), based on bright green leaves of romaine, supported a perfect fan of creamy avocado, tiny crumbles of blue cheese, bay shrimp, crisp pieces of bacon, chopped hard-boiled eggs and tart ranch dressing.
The Cioppino ($17) will be served as long as its fresh ingredients are available, possibly into March and April. In a rich, spiced seafood tomato broth were stewed tomatoes, firm white fish, pieces of salmon, mussels, clams, and rings of calamari. It was delicious but we were just sad there was no crab.
The Crab-encrusted Salmon ($23) was a visual masterpiece. A salmon fillet was coated with crab pâté and baked, topped with sprouts, and drizzled with flavorfully tart cilantro-lime aioli. It rested upon a bed of bright green sautéed spinach and bits of garlic-herb roasted red potatoes. | KP
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MC Lars has been espousing his love of literature in hip-hop verse for practically his entire career. With nods to Melville and Shakespeare already under his belt, his newest video single returns to one of his favorite wordsmiths, Poe.
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More than just a rap retelling of a literary classic — he took care of that way back in 2004 with "Mr. Raven" — "Flow Like Poe" serves as a slice of musical edutainment that explores poetic meter. In addition to identifying iambs and trochees, Lars also touches on the principles of alliteration, assonance, onomatopoeia and that cornerstone of contemporary lyricism, near rhyme.
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NEW YORK (TheStreet) -- The Dow Jones Industrial Average closed lower each day this week for the first time in nearly two years.
On CNBC's "Fast Money" TV show, Tim Seymour, managing partner of Triogem Asset Management, pointed out that volatility has finally started to creep into the market. He advised investors to stayed hedged, partly by selling the Materials Select Sector SPDR ETF (XLB) and the iShares Russell 2000 ETF (IWM).
Guy Adami, managing director of stockmonster.com, said the S&P 500 could trade down to 1,816 before finding some level of support. He added that bond yields could continue moving lower throughout the rest of 2014.
Brian Kelly, founder of Brian Kelly Capital, said he sold some of his "risk-off" positions and bought more "risk-on" positions, meaning he thinks U.S. stocks could rally next week. He added that a lot of the current negative news is already priced into the market.
Steve Grasso, director of institutional sales at Stuart Frankel, said Friday's weakness seems to be overdone. However, he argued there is still a lot of uncertainty in the market due to geopolitical issues out of Ukraine.
Seymour, who is short the DAX, said German equities are at a bigger risk to geopolitical turmoil in Eastern Europe.
Gordon Johnson, senior equity research analyst at Axiom Capital, said he's bearish on China, saying the country's debt continues to grow. He suggested that growth in the region could slow as a result of lower lending. Therefore, he recommended short-selling Joy Global (JOY), Cliffs Natural Resources (CLF), U.S. Steel (X) and Rio Tinto (RIO).
Kelly said investors should avoid shares of Target (TGT) since there are no positive catalysts in the near term. Seymour agreed, saying investors need to wait for Target to bottom before stepping in to buy.
Grasso said investors should watch Tesla Motors (TSLA) to see if it holds $225. If it does and rallies next week, then they should buy the stock.


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Burnett: Only the drought-tolerant survive
It sure is easy to tell what plants are resistant to dry conditions and ones that are not by observing properties that have been abandoned for awhile.
The first thing to go, of course, is the lawn with its shallow root system.
Almost coinciding with this is the demise of several herbaceous border plants including Ligularia, Astilbe and Delphinium.
After a few weeks of no water, you will see several shrubs wilting including Azaleas and Rhododendrons.
While some of these can recover if caught in time, the one plant that is finished once it turns the drought corner is the cedar.
There is no wonder we are gradually turning away from our beloved cedar hedges, instead planting more drought tolerant species.
Once a cedar has begun to show signs of lack of water, it is often impossible to turn it around, to regain its previously healthy state.
Another cedar problem is often individual plants in a hedge will die here and there, and it is very difficult to establish individual new ones in a mature hedge.
On the other hand, I find it very interesting and helpful in my quest for plant knowledge to recognize plants that do just fine after a property has been vacated and there is no irrigation for a time.
Some plants that one would think need lots of moisture are doing just fine such as the Hibiscus syriacus or Rose Of Sharon.
The tropical Hibiscus rosa sinensis, which we enjoy as a house plant, tends to need lots of water.
So I've always thought the same would go for the hardy one we plant in the garden.
But I have noticed them this year in several vacant properties still thriving despite the lack of water.
I also keep an inquisitive eye on a Japanese tree peony doing quite well where it gets very little water other than rain.
Of course there are the usual plants we recognize that do without water—junipers, several species of pine, Sunburst locusts, Barberry and many others.
So if you want to discover first-hand which plants will do without very much water, I suggest you take a few Sunday drives and look for properties which have been neglected for a while, sort of a dry garden tour.
I want to thank the Okanagan Historical Society for hosting the annual Pioneer Picnic, held at Parkinson Recreation Centre this past Sunday.
What a great gathering it was with the wonderful pioneer families of Rutland being recognized this time round. It was great to see lots of familiar faces.
Every Wednesday at noon during the month of August, the Cathedral Church of St. Michael and All Angels will conduct heritage tours of its 100-year-old Anglican Church building.
Bring family, friends and visitors to explore the beautiful old grey stone landmark, made of local materials.
Tours will take place Aug. 6, 13, 20 and 27 at the church, 608 Sutherland Ave., at the corner of Richter and Sutherland Ave. in Kelowna.
The tours are free, and refreshments will be available.


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The Public Safety Department gathered August 26 to celebrate the work the department has done to raise its performance standards to meet the needs of a college of Columbus State's size and scope. Dr. Moeller presented each team member with a certificate recognizing the department's work over the past several years.
The Department has reorganized itself by major function: safety and security, emergency management preparedness, community policing and parking enforcement. Various recommendations, offered through objective reviews of the department and its operations, have informed work that is underway on campus, including centralizing and strengthening various safety systems and upgrading tools used by the team in the conduct of its work.
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The Chorus consists of approximately 30 soprano, alto, tenor, and bass/baritone voices. The ensemble performs works in all genres. Past concerts include Carl Orff's Carmina Burana and Randall Thompson's Frostiana. Both were performed at the Columbus Museum of Art. Solo and duet opportunities are possible in all concerts. This fall the Chorus will continue its study of Brahm's A German Requiem in preparation for the winter concert in December at the Columbus Museum of Art.
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When I first brought home Feist, my 4-pound Chihuahua puppy, I knew that she would be a handful from the start. She had an obsession with pulling off buttons on shirts, biting on human hair, chewing up house slippers, and eating random "things" she found in the yard. Anything that she could put in her mouth, she would. While I watched her as much as I could and tried to deflect her fascination of "oddities" with actual dog toys, it came to no surprise when I came home and found her at the foot of my bed, sick with a belly ache.
Small breeds, like Chihuahuas, are often favored because they're cute and stay "puppy-sized" their whole lives. But while their small stature may have you saying "aww," their small intestines and organs may just have your puppy weeping "oww." This is because unlike with larger breeds, smaller dogs tend to get stomach aches more often—their digestive systems, especially in puppies, are not properly developed which can cause an array of health complications, including dehydration. While stomach aches can indicate something more serious like gastric torsion (canine bloating) it's more than likely it's something minor brought forth by something your pup ate. That said, if you want to see if you can help your dog resolve the issue naturally before taking him or her to the vet (which can get costly), continue reading below.
1. Watch Your Pet Closely. The first thing you want to do is monitor your pet as closely as possible. Upset stomachs are typically the result of eating miscellaneous items that are found in the house or backyard, like trash or toilet paper. So watch to see if your pet is getting into the trash bin or anything else he or she is not supposed to. Even if you don't catch your pup in the act, it's best to go out of your way to make certain things inaccessible to your dog anyway—make a barrier, put the trash in a different location etc.
2. Hold out on the Treats. Many new dog owners love to spoil their new pups with treats, but what they don't know is that too many treats can be bad for small dogs, especially if there is an ingredient your dog is allergic to or can't readily digest. It can cause your dog to have severe stomach aches, accompanied with the works: vomiting and diarrhea. So refrain from giving your dog its usual treat to see if the situation improves. In the meantime, make sure it is getting a good amount of water (especially if diarrhea is present) and let your dog eat grass if he or she wants to—this is the natural way that dogs purge their stomachs to get better. Some medical experts also say that letting your dog fast for a day can also help the body naturally get rid of toxins causing the stomach ache. Did you recently switch your pup's dog food to a different brand or flavor? This could be the culprit too. You need to slowly ease your dog to its new food by combining equal parts of new and old for a few days and then slowly omitting the old so that your dog's digestive system can get used to it.
3. Whip Up Bland, Home Cooked Dog Food. Lastly, dogs (just like humans) can soothe their stomachs by eating light broths. Pass on the hearty, heavily seasoned meaty dog food you may originally feed your pet and boil some pieces of chicken (no bone) and rice. Add in a tiny bit of broth to make somewhat of a soup. Serve with a side of fresh water and see if that does the trick.
If your pet still seems to be sick with no improvement, definitely consult your veterinarian.
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Railing corners is one of the Holy Grails of trail riding - riders who can do it flow faster and those who can't complain about their tires and head tube angle.
The truth is that cornering is just a series of movements that, when put together, help you turn faster and with more balance and confidence. However, as I've learned from guys like Gene Hamilton and Lee McCormack, it takes some thought and practice to really dial it in.
Cornering breaks down into 3 basic steps
1) Turn with your hips.
Set up for a turn with the hips by pointing your belly button the direction you want to go. This will shift your hips to the outside and shift some weight to your outside foot. The more you shift your hips the more you'll want to drop and weight your outside foot.
2) Use counter-pressure to steer into the turn.
Counter pressure (which I prefer to the term counter-steering) is when you push forward with your left arm to turn left and push forward with your right elbow to turn right. This gets your bike to lean over and your front wheel to track better through the corner. The more you push with your left hand the sharper you'll turn left, the more you push with your right the more you'll turn right.
It is the complete opposite of how most riders steer into a turn and impossible to pull off unless you are in the right body position on the bike. However, this concept is very important to learn if you want to be able to corner consistently. It freaks some riders out how their bike practically turned itself once they get this concept down.
3) Look through the turn.
With all of this hip shifting and counter-pressure you have to look through the corner. Going into the corner you should be looking at the middle of it, not the entrance. Once you hit the entrance you should be looking at the exit and once you hit the exit you should be looking out of the corner at the next section of trail.
All of this will add up to faster, more consistent cornering. I shot a video showing how this works and going over a drill you can use to try it out in a parking lot to see how it feels. It is tough to learn this stuff on the trail which is why you need to put in "parking lot time" to really advance to the next level.
The biggest take home lesson is this – at a certain point just riding your bike will make it harder for you to advance. Some mountain bikers who ride a lot and are considered good riders have the hardest time getting this "new" stuff down. They have logged so many turns using bad form that they had to first unlearn what they had learned, as Yoda would put it.
Practice this stuff for 10-15 minutes, 2-3 times a week so you can start to ingrain the new habits. Keep in it mind when you are riding the trail and you'll be amazed at how quickly you can improve your cornering technique.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 0:10)
Hm Intresting. One of my main aims this season! Great Article. Kudos
+ 2
(Feb 12, 2011 at 17:58)
@16:17, Follow Me, Brad's Yard.
(or @00:54 here
+ 2
(Feb 16, 2011 at 14:35)
scandinavian flick ftw! thats my cornering technique
+ 18
(Feb 10, 2011 at 1:47)
I dont know how many times i'd kill my nuts with that seat post.
+ 2
(Feb 10, 2011 at 6:12)
I'm also sporting one of these and it only happened once during the past season... he he
+ 4
(Feb 10, 2011 at 7:41)
its a 'commando post' does what it says on the tin i guess gets in quick and gets out quick with a seat attached
+ 2
(Feb 10, 2011 at 11:09)
Adjustable seat posts are fly. some are rather fast and kinda freak me out.. like the gravity dropper. (ca-pow!)
However, you'll get used to it and love it on your all mountain bike..
you'll either make sure you're out of the way, or you can put one leg against it to slow its rate of travel..
My Trail bike is a Nomad and I can't imagine not having an adjustable post anymore.. if you earn your turns by climbing, and like to bomb down with your seat out of the way, Pony up the dough, you'll be happy you did.
+ 3
(Feb 10, 2011 at 12:02)
dont get me wrong, i think they're sweet, but that one was moving a little fast
+ 2
(Feb 10, 2011 at 13:45)
it's a 'command' post
+ 1
(Feb 11, 2011 at 3:46)
oooh! its a command post from where they plot and send out strikes! boom!
+ 15
(Feb 10, 2011 at 0:14)
I will be practising this, my left turns are fine. However, right turns are my achilles heel..I fall off to the left better also, strange..Any body have the same problem???.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 0:55)
Pretty common to have a side you feel more comfortable on. I think it all comes down to which foot is your dominant foot that determines what way you prefer to turn.
I notice it in everything from MX to MTB to even riding my sled. It feels least obvious to me in MTB form though. The other 2 I can clearly tell I prefer to lean/turn right.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 1:32)
that is perfectly normal, just as being right and left handed. At the same time it doesn't mean you can't practise it, you actualy should, because if you don't that will be with you through all your mountain biking regardless of level you are on. I haven't trained it myself for a long time, and I also feel that. When I learned to whip i can also do it well only to one side. Now I started workig on that and riding actualy feels better.
The parking lot is actualy a very good training place. Try a track stand for instance: Do it in several combinations. with front wheel to the left as well as to the right, then with right foot forward, then left foot forward. Go for XC riding and force yourself to change the leading foot. It will suck for first few times but in time you will discover new level of "freedom" of movement on your bike.
What James is suggesting in his programs is to focus more on the weak side in whatever training you are doing.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 2:02)
Thanks for the input guys,They say the day you stop learning is the day after you die. Sounds morbid, but its true...
+ 5
(Feb 10, 2011 at 4:58)
I like that^
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 7:07)
WAKI, leading with the other foot, I like that. I wasn't sure how I'd any extra practice my weak side because there are only so many right hand corners in a trail. I'm going to practice switch foot a lot now! Even the thought of riding like that feels uncomfortable lol.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 8:25)
ugh...my brain hurts and i wanna ride real bad
+ 5
(Feb 10, 2011 at 13:03)
ALL my scars from mtb are down my left side! along with a dislocated left shoulder. my right hand side is untouched lol
+ 3
(Feb 10, 2011 at 17:25)
it's just like learning to ride switch on a snowboard! super uncomfortable at first, then natural, and then all of a sudden so many more things are possible! =]
+ 1
(Feb 11, 2011 at 9:28)
to go left push harder with my left arm? im sorry what? Surely if i PUSH my left arm i will go right?
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(Feb 11, 2011 at 13:30)
^^ ianjohnbressat, read charlesr's comment waaay beloew about training wheels/stabilisers and my comment just above it. Hopefully in combination they will explain how countersteering sets up a carve.
+ 1
(Feb 11, 2011 at 14:36)
IF your cornering in berms you lean with the bike right?
+ 1
(Feb 11, 2011 at 14:39)
he says no, but burms let you get away with the 'bad cronering technique' i must say it is fun getting low but if you watch steve peat and co they do exactly what this guy is talking about.
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(Feb 11, 2011 at 14:41)
i just went outside (its raining
) and tried it out. it works. if you lean the bike over, straighten inside arm, keep weight central, it feels awesome. hang on, im sure thats what james wilson said...
+ 1
(Feb 11, 2011 at 14:41)
thanks for that
+ 1
(Feb 12, 2011 at 3:24)
For burms just go flat out and push into the centre of the burm and pull up on the exit, can get away with barly turning your bars.
+ 7
(Feb 10, 2011 at 0:21)
i've sort of discovered this over the past month, but seeing it written out clearly helps. thanks! great article.
+ 2
(Feb 11, 2011 at 14:42)
yeh sometimes i start doing stuff cos it looks cool/feels right/the pros do it and then you get told youre doing the right thing - noice one bruvaa
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 5:04)
The main problem with this concept is the idea of shifting your weight over the contact patch line between both tyres. This I believe is false under many circumstances. Initially the idea may seem correct however it is only applicable at LOW speeds.
During cornering the bike and rider (combined masses) create an overall mass which in turn has its own dynamic centre (centre mass/centre of gravity). This has two effects; 1. it creates a vertical force acting downwards (mass x gravity) 2. it creates a horizontal force (centrifugal/centripetal, ((mass x velocity^2)/corner radius). The result is a force acting diagonally through the tyre contact patch.
From this we can see that the smaller the corner radius the lower the speed (which is clear to anyone). The issue is that at higher speeds you must take into consideration the combined inertial effects of both wheels and its effect on gyroscopics. At higher speeds the bike will always want to pick itself up as a change in the direction of the front wheel to corner creates a torque. It is this torque which picks up the bike, and it is this which you must counter in order to maintain maximum speed in a corner. This torque is created with a combination of you counter-steering and leaning over towards the inside of the corner. If you don't lean and shift your weight away from the tyre contact patch then there will not be enough torque created to counter the bike. Hence you highside and spend the next 5 minutes picking bits of hillside out of your helmets' mouthpiece
+ 1
(Feb 10, 2011 at 7:44)
so its knowing when to lean and by what measure
+ 3
(Feb 10, 2011 at 11:22)
cheers for using physics to (badly) explain what we already knew
+ 0
(Feb 10, 2011 at 20:18)
What you say is true but you gotta be going *hell* fast for that to be applicable.
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(Jun 6, 2011 at 10:43)
Having road raced motorcycles for several years, you have some solid points here... and I think the most important aspect in using this technique to developing the wisdom to know when it is best applied. The concept is simple, given the momentum of the mass, when the front wheel turns, mass wants to continue in a straight line, always. Couple this with the profile of a tire... taking a tire off its center point with momentum and it will begin to fall over. The effect is best felt on a perfectly round tire profile... What can affect this technique are: speed of traveling mass... you don't turn a motorcycle at 5 mph using this technique, and again tire profile. If your tires are very squared off, the sensation will be sluggish until you pass beyond the squared off point and then the bike will fall into the turn very quickly. This is why you see various front wheel tire profile on motorcycle tires... from progressive radius profiles, to very distinct planes depending on the riders style and preference.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 7:32)
Dude this isn't working what the hell??? I did everything they said, set up the cones ,drink two cases of beer and still crashing into every turn. I crashed right into this whole family of gypsies, anyone have some tips on drunk cornering????
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 7:38)
first rule of beer bike- replace all cones with gypsies
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 20:30)
Sorry but I disagree a lot of this:
The hips twist is fine but it needs to be entire torso, and only once the bike is angulated else it's useless. The whole point of the twist is to position your centre-of-mass over the contact point of the tyre, the surface area of which wants to be maximised (which is around 45 degrees lean)
Weighting the outside foot: think of how a lever works and what'll happen to your nice leant over bike with a pedal down... it'll stand up again countering what you're trying to achieve.
Looking through the turn is correct but only complementary to twisting the torso. Anyone can crane their neck through a corner but will have no effect on their cornering without properly manoeuvring the torso.
As for pressuring the inside arm... I'd like everyone to please grab their bikes and lean them over to a cornering angle then apply force through the inside (lower) grip only. My money's on the front-tyre skidding sideways. Now do exactly the same thing on the outside (upper) grip and watch that sucker dig in and grip to hell. Outside hand kids. What you should do is, keeping your elbow up and out, use the outside hand push the bike over to the desired angle so it's touching the inside of your leg, then twist those hips, then look through your corner, then rail the shit out of it.
To the haters: yes, I'm a practicing DH coach.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 21:45)
Wow thanks for the tips professor handlebars. I just set my 59 inch bars to a 33 degree angle on my top secret DH track. HUUHUU HHAAHAA Now I'm a beast in the corners. From one coach to another you shouldn't be dropping soo much insider info like this. Next thing you know some guy in a suit will come and win nationals.
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(Apr 25, 2015 at 21:58)
Dam this post is old as dirt and no disrespect to the video above, but thank you Hwulex. I have been trying to 'countersteer' for the longest time, but for whatever reason it never clicked. Your post has helped me rail the shit out of corners and my flow on the trails is finally progressing to where I want it to go. Thanks man.
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(Apr 26, 2015 at 15:14)
That's awesome news
! Just remember the priority: Number one thing for cornering is making sure you're as close to the right speed as possible (nobody gets it perfect) which usually means effective braking, and coming in a little slower than you think you need to as you can always use the corner for more speed, especially in downhill as most corners are invariably... down. Then comes the lean, the twist and look, the hands, and eventually you can add pumping to get more speed from that sucker. Glad I could help, and happy shredding!
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 8:05)
I learned this technique by accident at Ravenshoe in Ontario - ten million sketchy turns and each one has a tree right where your inside hand wants to go. You can't lean your body in, otherwise you bang your head, and you have to push your inside hand down to get around the tree. So now I just pretend I'm trying to get past a tree, and around I go.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 18:19)
Wonderful point - I come from an area where most of the singletrack is in tight (plantation) pine forest and if you lean like these treeless Coloradians do you will hit a tree.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 9:06)
Well, reading through this thread my mind keeps shouting "There can be no rule book" this is good advice certainly but we all behave/react differently, every bike will respond differently to what we throw at it, if i gave a shred of brain power to physics in a corner i would be biting lumps of bark off the nearest tree, what's kept me exiting a corner the right way up and still with the bike(berm or any other) has been the entry, get that right and you battle is half won. Simply speaking on approach look for the apex, correct your speed and get the right gear for exit, set yourself up – hold your breath – shut your eyes and say the lord's prayer, if all went well you will be pointing at the exit attached to the bike and not a spectator if that's the case rise up over the bars and stamp on the outer pedal HARD.
On a more adult note what im trying to add is not to apply to much process and technique you may get lost in your own thoughts. Feel your way through each corner and PRACTICE, you will find your own way which is right for you and the bike, bare in mind all this advice as it's from experienced riders but don't over think it you will feel it when it goes right and you will know when it's fast….
+ 2
(Feb 10, 2011 at 10:31)
Well put. And you must be able to say the lord's prayer really fast.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 12:47)
also pushing down with your arm is used almost inherently/ If you slow down the process and break down the movements. However I find it much more efficient pulling with the opposite arm in conjunction, i find it less tiring and more balanced. so pushing the inside arm and pulling the outside. another thing I have noticed, rather than pointing my belly button at the corner I do a circular motion with my hips firstly I push towards the outside of the corner and then swing my hips into the apex. I find this forces the bike round to corner keeping the tyres on the edge of their grip. Kind of as if you were using a hula hoop but only half a rotation. This also loads the suspension up and helps give that pop that I mentioned above. The lat thing I have noticed is that tyre pressure plays a big parts as well. Not directly linked to added grip for softer tyres but more to deformation of the tyre during the corner. I have found that with maxxis tyres they deform quite a bit under load and you can squeeze a little more grip out of them and keep a bigger contact patch through higher speed flat corners as oppose to some kenda tyres I have been running recently which have thicker sidewalls and don't deform as much when at the same psi. There fore the contact patch gets smaller when cornering aggressively and hence I have less grip and am unable to corner at the same speed.
Just a few observations from my riding that seem to work for me.
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(Feb 11, 2011 at 1:21)
For those that can't fathom counter-steering, think back to when you had stabilisers (or what a kid riding a bike with them on). Kids wants to turn left, so thinks "turn bars to left". The first thing that happens is that the bike flops over on to the RIGHT stabiliser. When the stabiliser touches down, it turns into a tricycle and goes around the left corner. If the stabiliser hadn't been there, kid would have been lying on their right hand side on the floor. This is why as soon as you remove stabilisers from a kids bike, they immediately fall off (or if they are fast, in this example, they will put their right foot down to stop themselves falling and look very confused). This is why you should stat your kids on balance bikes rather than stabilisers so that they learn counter steering from day one.
Note that bicycles are light enough to use bodyweight to help steer them, thus being able to ride no-handed, but if you try riding a big motorbike (600cc upwards) no-handed, there is nothing you can do to steer them and in fact the ONLY way to get them to tip into a corner is to counter-steer. Lots of vids on youtube for this, some better than others though.
To try it at home, ride along no handed in a wide area, and very gently pull one of the bars towards you with a single fingertip and see what happens. Once you believe, then try it on your DH bike at speed.
Now, on DH bikes, the gyroscopic forces of the wheels come into play, making conscious countersteering even more important to switch direction quickly. Most riders believe they are pushing the bike down into the corner, but what they are actually doing is pushing the inside bar in the opposite direction (you can't push a bike down because there's nothing for you to push back against above you - all you can do is make it fall to one side by countersteering).
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(Feb 11, 2011 at 6:12)
The only people I know using steering dampers are weak wristed suspect riders looking to technology to bail them out. Do some long hours training on the bike and you won't have to rely on articles and dampners etc.
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(Feb 11, 2011 at 13:26)
charlesr, that stabiliser example is perfect in describing how countersteering initiates a turn. and why balance bikes are better than stabilisers
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(Feb 15, 2011 at 12:27)
Shishka, when he says "stabilizers" i think he means training wheels...
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(Apr 7, 2011 at 19:40)
this is exactly why gliders rule the roost
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(Jun 6, 2011 at 8:23)
The training wheels analogy is perfect, and is why my 2 year old is learning on a kick bike instead of training wheels
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 23:57)
James' reasoning of WHY countersteering leans the bike over (2.59 - 3.06) is incorrect. Turning the bars on a stationary bike means nothing. Let me explain...
Let's say you are riding down a straight road with a straight line running down the middle of it and you are riding directly on the line. You want to turn left.
Push with the left hand/pull with the right (whatever). You'll notice that when the bars turn to the right that the front tire will steer to the right for a moment - as would be expected. Now, the contact patch of the tires is over on the right hand side of the line, but your centre of gravity is still above the line. This means the bike is leaning to the left and you are all set up to carve to the left.
And so you carve to the left. It is very simple.
And it can't be achieved on a stationary bike. If James' bike had a head angle of 90 degrees and no fork offset, his bike would NOT flop over when it was stationary, but it WOULD still countersteer at speed. Turning the bars on a stationary bike and seeing the bike flop over is just a result of the function of caster/head angle/fork offset/contact patch.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 9:24)
its a good tutorial but theres one thing i disagree with it may just be personal prefernce but i have also noticed lots of other DH's doing it. i find having a higher seat can help with cornering as by having the seat between ur thighs u r able to move the back end of the bike around more through a corner and definatly on the way out, this is most prominant whilst flat cornering.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 21:15)
If you read "twist of the wrist II" it explains the counter steering and weighting outside pegs in great details for racing a motorcycle, I've found that the principals make me alot smoother MTB rider when taking the same ideas from my motorcycle to my MTB bike.
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(Feb 12, 2011 at 12:34)
Thanks, I know about countersteering and keeping the bike upright from riding road motorbikes, but I tried the "point your belly button the way you want to turn" idea around a flat corner I know really well (on a DH bike!) and I swear I went round it twice as fast without the usual sketchiness!!! I'm not going to get into the argument, all I know is this simple tip definitely made me go faster...
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(Feb 12, 2011 at 13:02)
Have to agree with "ragged" here ! I've always been a bit nervous going around loose turns and learned about the Counter-steering method a few years ago ... but it just didn't work for me at all. I tried it today with the belly button method and immediately felt 100% better !!! Cool tip !! It was that missing bit of the puzzle that I needed.
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(Jun 15, 2014 at 5:08)
From years of riding motorcycles and reading/taking classes on how to ride better: 1) countersteering only works above a threshold speed which is different for every bike. You can see in the video he is not doing it because when you're countersteering the wheel literally turns the wrong way but the back of the bike swings out. Countersteering, leaning your body into the turn, and leaning the bike all have the same effect of turning. Look at pictures of supermoto racing for an example. It has to do with the physics of gyroscopes. 2) You lean the bike on dirtbikes because you want the rear wheel to lose traction and slide a little, and you very definitely have your foot down in the dirt as a stabilizer. For road racing they exaggerate their body lean, and keep the bike upright as possible because when the bike is vertical the tires have more traction than when they are leaned over. Supermoto is great to watch because they use both road and dirt techniques in the same race. Road riders also slide their knee with special pads that has the same stabilizing effect (supermoto uses both foot and knee pads).
I am kinda new to mountain biking but I would think that for flat turns that are not too sharp you want to lean your body more than the bike, and turn your hips. For sharp turns where you want to slide lean the bike more and weight the front tire more to reduce traction on the rear and have your foot ready to slide. But I am not an expert-- I just find it funny that no one can decide how to turn a bike.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 0:15)
yeah, thanks for the tips!! always appreciated, keep on rocking j wilson!!!!
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 12:47)
a few things I have noticed through actual riding. (i practice flat corners quite a bit as i love them) when on a flat corner it depends on the speed as to whether or not you can lean past the contact point (it takes practice to know how far) for example if on a techy DH track you aren't going to build up a huge amount of speed for a flat corner so leaning a little with the bike can put more force through the bike and you can snap out of the corner faster. This is obviously not relevant for fast flat corners as you will get the tyres to the edge of their grip with out leaning with the bike. A good way of feeling this in reality is by changing tyres, try a flat corner with hi roller 60a compound and then try the same corner at the same speed with a ho roller ST, you can lean with the bike and carry more speed due to more grip similar to hitting the corner slower.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 9:47)
If you really want to learn the counter steering principle, go get your motorcycle drivers license. It helpt me alot in taking better corners on the mountainbike, from xc to freeride.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 10:44)
Me too. You go to the limits with counter steering, but in bikes it works just at high speed.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 5:04)
If your riding style is dialled into the method presented here that's fine. But, the resulting force has to be countered somewhere. Namely down through your outside leg instead of through the steering head axis, energy best spent pushing your bike back up the hill.
Putting your leg or elbow out or whatever is simply a placebo as its does not have a large roll to play in altering your centre of mass. One of the main things is the angle of your arm as this will give you more control over countering the torque at the bars and a good presence over the front of the bike.
All im saying is, don't be scared of the lean, its natural! see for yourself (this ain't me but its a f**ckin good lean)
Enjoy the ridin'!!
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 5:30)
But that is a lean into a berm, as pointed out about berms and bad cornering.
The berm is steep enough that he is not leaning at all compared to the berm.
The video in this article is about general trail cornering, not man made bermed cornering.
Great off camber example on snow of everything he has said
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 5:54)
Fair betsie, I perhaps could of found a bermless example. The snow riding situation changes things alot as he's sliding down the hill and it can be seen that he doesn't have full traction. The reactionary forces at the contact patch are reduced due to any sliding meaning that the physics kinda goes out of the window especially as he is not on a flat surface. When your sliding like that the tyre will be constantly in between slipping and gripping so everything changes. Riding the way this video suggests will not improve the traction at the contact patch it will only create a bending moment around the hub and the contact patch. Wheels are laced in tension in the upright position for a reason.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 6:02)
I wouldn't say berms are bad cornering, they just allow for a lean that you can't do without a berm. Watch any pro in a berm and they use the berm to their advantage and throw their weight more to the inside than can be done on flat, loose, or off camber turns. Of course this depends on speed, surface, radius of the turn, size of the berm, and what comes after the berm. Thank god for berms and being able to throw yourself into them, but a good rider should be able to use different turning techniques for different situations.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 7:24)
Counter balancing is one of the most important techniques for high speed flat, and off camber cornering, it's not a myth. I taught motocross with a top ten CMRC for years and you'd be lost without it. Don't say the physics goes out the window either, I am a physicist (well just about). The contact patch and friction co-efficient will remain constant, however static friction wont be such a factor vs. kinetic friction coming into play so physics really doesn't go out the window. To get these "reaction forces" back you must counter-balance to increase orthogonal surface pressure thus increasing friction (traction). Theres your basic physics on it.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 7:44)
My comment on the reactionary forces are regarding a comparison between the cornering around the cones and the sliding on the snow where the forces are not equal between the two.
The reactionary forces I have spoken about refer to the resolution of forces (Pythagoras) which act in line between CofG and contact patch. The reactionary torque is due to any gyroscopic moments induced by turning the bars or leaning the bike. It effects the torque at the steering wheel. You can obtain equilibrium in the corner by appliying a counter torque to the bars or countersteering. I am not disagreeing on that. you cannot ride a bike a high speed without doing it, anybody who disagrees just hasn't realised they are doing it yet.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 8:11)
All you guys are right. More berm equals more lean, less equals less. It's all a simple matter of vector physics and static friction. Oh, and gyroscopic precession, and centrifugal force, and how much of a hurry you're in.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 6:47)
Jump for show, corner for dough!
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(Feb 11, 2011 at 10:02)
OMG everybody is a somebody now a days... If you dont agree with what this lesson is saying your wrong. It happens naturally if you corner the way your supposed to corner once experienced enough to actullay need to use this technique. For all of yall that would like to corner faster, this is exactly how to do it. All them dumbass comments that contradicts anything in this lesson should be totally ignored.
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(Feb 14, 2011 at 6:51)
Counter steering is fun but there are many ways to corner. I think it is best to practice multiple styles.
Here is some counter steering.
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(Feb 13, 2011 at 15:59)
Its good to see this on video. I've read the section on counter steering in Lee's book several times, but just didn't get it until I saw it on video. Started practicing the drill today. Cool.
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(Feb 11, 2011 at 1:21)
That's my best effort at explaining this, so all I can suggest is that if you aren't convinced, just try the drill above.
Also, final point. Good article but this bit is slightly misleading: "It is the complete opposite of how most riders steer into a turn and impossible to pull off unless you are in the right body position on the bike." - in reality ALL riders do this on ALL corners but without realising it (think back to the stabilisers bit again). It has nothing to do with body position on the bike. It is only to do with your pressure on the bars.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 21:53)
hmmm... well i think that its faster to give ur brakes a quick tap just before the turn and throwing ur back end through it. basically skidding with no brakes...but my friend likes this technique and it works for sure
+ 1
(Feb 10, 2011 at 12:34)
I think some folks are missing the point. Countersteering pretty much happens on its own for the most part if you're practicing good technique. The idea is to go into the corner initiating lean my pushing down on the bar.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 12:52)
I agree the negative posts are missing the points. The technique is valid. At high speeds with good corner support the movements are just more subtle. Check out
and you can see him rip through corners with this method.
+ 1
(Feb 10, 2011 at 13:09)
Agreed , I recently posted a moto vid where you can clearly see countersteering in action. Notice how my head stays relatively static compared to the bike?
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 8:11)
If you take a motorcycle course they will teach you the same technique. I remember my dad explaining it to me when I was 16. Good stuff. Works great with practice. Takes some courage to apply it on a steep dirt trail though.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 4:32)
I don't know what he says but when I am turning my bike it leans to the direction of the corner.He is doing the same thing when he saws us in action.The theoritical part is wrong.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 8:32)
Actually, if you'd ever ridden a motorcycle you'd know that his theory is not wrong. Counter-steering works. If you turn your handlebars into a corner while carrying too much speed you're done for.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 9:52)
I think what he was trying to say was to push down on the bars - basically just tip your bike into the corner?
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 12:16)
I agree that counter-steering helps in turning with low speed and when you corner on non off-camber corners like descending or rising U-turns..In other cases I thing you have to lean inside and not outside.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 17:14)
like he says its counter pressure. it would be interesting to actually measure the bar angle thru a turn. i think you'll see the the bars do actually angle into the corner not away, but only to a certain point. beyond this point its the lean that does all the turning (brings the front tire's contact patch further from the centre line) and the counter pressure not so much "counter steering" (a term likely taken from 4 wheel off-roading where it actually is opposite steering) that induces more lean over.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 18:31)
WasabiJim - great point about measuring the bar angle through a turn. That is exactly why rally drivers have a big white marker on top of the steering wheel - they can see where the wheels are pointing while they are drifting (i.e. not going in the direction the wheels are pointing).
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(Feb 11, 2011 at 23:29)
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 5:52)
ha! and i taught that i was doing corners wrong by not leaning so much to the inside. this is a great tip! nice thing to know, now that i was just about to go for a ride
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(Feb 11, 2011 at 14:28)
An easy way to put it, is to do a lazy table on the ground and exaggerate counter steering when carry speed through corners. Gotta love carving. Great blog and video.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 6:49)
Now I would love to put my dirty eyes on Gene Hamiltons drills on proper looking ahead and trail scanning, along with some story how to hit corner apex right.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 6:56)
I'd love to see those as well. Gene has that stuff down to a science and taught me a ton about riding. His Better Ride camps are highly recommended, they'll help you understand these things way better than I can with a video!
+ 1
(Feb 10, 2011 at 7:37)
great advice on switching the leading foot waki- hoping to hit a betteride camp in March! I know it'll be the best upgrade i'll ever do for me and my bike!
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 9:11)
As I wrote to Gene once: I do not need any convincing to sign up for his clinics even if it costed double: what I need is lots of money and esteem to convince my wife, to fly over Atlantic to get a MTB clinic
BTW fullbug with all the stuff I wrote above I am mostly parroting James, Lee or Gene and filtering it through my nerditous mind. I recommend that trio to anyone instead of component wieght charts. Since I "discovered" them I didn't had actualy too much opportunities to practice because of the Swedish winter. I just sit on gym twice a week trying my best to follow James program. Right now actualy sick so not doing even that.
+ 1
(Feb 10, 2011 at 13:20)
its good reinforced techniques to me so it's all good. it's like martial arts to me. focus/technique/repeat = trail ninja!
+ 1
(Feb 11, 2011 at 0:09)
mah we have our own: Concentration, Control, Confidence, Commitment
+ 1
(Feb 21, 2011 at 9:16)
james you do a good job of maintaining a neutral spine while you ride the bike! way to stretch those post hip capsules! good movement quality!
+ 1
(Feb 13, 2011 at 13:44)
Common sense then really.But a nice refresher,i'll try and put some of it into practice on the way to the shop in a minute.:P
+ 1
(Feb 10, 2011 at 12:28)
Pumptracks with tight berms are a good way to improve cornering You do use some of the things he talked about there, just its alot more fun than in a car park!!
+ 1
(Feb 15, 2011 at 14:16)
I just tried this out, works awesome! I'm going to apply this to all my trail riding now, although i still love getting low on berms, nothing like it.
+ 2
(Feb 10, 2011 at 4:03)
putting your outer elbow higher up will help put more pressure on the fron tire. cheers
+ 2
(Feb 10, 2011 at 7:42)
+ 1
(Feb 11, 2011 at 14:58)
nice lesson. very detailed explain. please do more lessons on such techniques like manualing and stuff!, thanks!
+ 1
(Feb 12, 2011 at 5:25)
haha cool.. thats how ive always cornered and i hated it cause it feels un-stylish..
+ 1
(Feb 10, 2011 at 7:04)
I've been riding for over 10 years, but this is actually some really useful advice! so, thank you.
+ 1
(Feb 10, 2011 at 20:12)
Mr James Wilson is my savior when it comes to being a better and faster rider...thank you
+ 1
(Feb 10, 2011 at 15:37)
Can someone help explain the counter-pressure tip - how do you push with your left arm and yet turn left, I can't fathom it!
+ 1
(Feb 10, 2011 at 15:46)
ah ok never mind I think I get it..
+ 2
(Feb 10, 2011 at 8:51)
I couldn't handle this guy's voice
+ 1
(Feb 10, 2011 at 16:47)
counter steering.....looking thru a turn.....sounds like my old track days with the CBR600 ....sigh......
+ 0
(Feb 10, 2011 at 8:19)
Really helpful article. Never thought about counter steering before but tried it just now and what a difference!
+ 1
(Feb 10, 2011 at 16:09)
nice tips. more of 'em please!
+ 1
(Feb 12, 2011 at 0:47)
Will I be a cornering god if I get this right?
+ 1
(Feb 11, 2011 at 23:58)
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(Apr 9, 2011 at 22:12)
dont where a helmet or anything!
+ 1
(Apr 9, 2011 at 22:12)
dont where a helmet or anything!
+ 1
(Feb 10, 2011 at 9:44)
i have to know what bars those are and how wide. gotta buy some
+ 1
(Mar 26, 2011 at 8:10)
+ 1
(Feb 10, 2011 at 8:20)
Great tips , Thanks!
+ 1
(Feb 10, 2011 at 18:13)
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 7:27)
sweet, im all over this.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 12:53)
Don't lean with the bike, I guess Steve has got it all wrong then.
+ 2
(Feb 10, 2011 at 15:14)
missed point is missed
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(Feb 17, 2011 at 5:26)
I guess plasticpylo didn't look at the steve peat shot properly too...
even though he is on a steep berm....his inside arm is straight, his body is (slightly) to the outside, and his hips pointed round the corner....hang on...thats exactly what James said in the article....no?
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(Feb 17, 2011 at 13:57)
Ha Ha, think what you will. It's all amatter of opinion. Keep Riding!
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 11:43)
this could not be more wrong, you should never lean the bike without your body, never should have one arm fully straight, this guy is an idiot.
+ 2
(Feb 10, 2011 at 11:52)
Never say Never !!
+ 2
(Feb 10, 2011 at 12:38)
Movements are exagerated for the sake of demonstration. For me, 6 years of Gravity Camp and instruction from WC racers proves his technique correct.
+ 0
(Feb 11, 2011 at 11:01)
gravity camp must be a great money pit then, a whole life of motocross has taught me different
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 10:12)
thanks pinkbike ill be sure to get my pen and paper out, I hate shit like this why dont you go out and learn how to take a freaking corner on your own,
+ 0
(Feb 10, 2011 at 10:29)
LOL thats the truth. i guess this vid could help out beginners or people with OCD, but most of us just blast corners fine. I think they are trying to legitimize our sport to a wide audience by breaking down every aspect of riding.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 10:30)
yeah, motor learning is always better than theoretical learning for things like this but sometimes a tip or key point that you hadn't thought of on your own can pop out at you (you don't need to go through a james-wilson checklist in your head or anything). No need to be a douche about a good article.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 13:31)
shishka-then your not counter steering enough when you go in out of shape and way too hot into a corner & a pile of gypsies! see....revisiting technique with alcohol can help too! plenty of my beer bike fails have shown me the light..
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 9:57)
go ride a dirtbike if you want to learn how to corner
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(Feb 11, 2011 at 8:40)
Or a sv650....
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 2:27)
I'm always wondering: how can you corner the wrong way? Cornering the right way is very natural. Cornering otherwise always leads to out-of-control situations. Especially on high speeds. You can't corner leaning together with your bike on flat ground - you will simply slip and fly somewhere. And when your body feels slipping it will automatically try to stand up.
The same goes for counter steering in slides/drifts - it just happens without you thinking. At least it happens that way with me.
There are a lot of good techniques in MTB, but cornering is the one thing I've been doing properly since day one - it's just like walking. You can't walk on one foot - it just does not work in long run
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 2:55)
I think the key point here isn't that there is a "wrong" way to corner per se, but that there are far more efficient ways to corner than some people are aware of. This article can help with that.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 6:17)
you can walk on one foot. its just harder and unnatural. i learnt something today. i lean to much in berms. time to go try it out
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 6:47)
Burm is a bit different thing mavster. You can't apply that specific carpark turning drill to burm cornering so straight forward. Burms are a lot about managing the G-force. Some common mistakes in burms is trying to treat them as flat corners with bigger error margin, characterized usualy by not leaning enough, resulting in shooting through the burm, because insufficient lean causes the bike to straight up. Then the second one , depending on a burm too much in a passive way, what results in tipping into the inside at the end of it. That's what I do quite often.
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 11:03)
I try to keep 90° to the angle of the berm as a general rule, if that helps?
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(Feb 10, 2011 at 16:52)
90deg?? nah go deeper, do you a flat corner at 90deg??
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(Feb 12, 2011 at 11:52)
haha no, but that wouldnt be a berm would it
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