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Breakfast places included Paradise Cafe at the Las Vegas Hilton (with my husband's co-workers) a few days, JJ's Boulangerie at Paris, Lenotre at Paris, and the Drugstore Cafe at Wynn. Nothing stood out as spectacular although the food at the Paradise Cafe was good and plenty (continental one day and eggs and bacon the other). The waffles (about $10) at JJ's were fresh and good with berries and whipped cream. Not the best ever but certainly very good. The apricot turnover at Lenotre (about $12 for everything) and the coffee were wonderful, but the fruit in the fruit bowl was not as fresh as I would have liked. The yogurt, fruit and granola ($7) at the Wynn was probably the best tasting.
Light lunches included a nutella napoleon pastry (about $5) at Jean Philippe's (incredible) and a passion fruit gelato (about $5) at the Venetian (very good). At 'witchcraft, I had the steak, mushroom and egg sandwich and a whoopie pie (total of about $10). The sandwich was wonderful with the eggs cooked well and the steak tender enough to eat without making a mess. The whoopie pie was interesting. Definitely not what you would expect from PA Dutch Country, either in size or taste. More like a cocoa cake with a custard cream filling. At Tacos and Tequila at the Luxor, I splurged on a pomegranate acai margarita ($12) and the pollo tacos ($13). The margarita was freshly made and not syrupy sweet. The tacos, while tasty, were not quite as flavorful as I would have imagined. I couldn't decide which salsa I liked better so I kept tasting them with the warm chips. My biggest lunch splurge was at Cafe Ba Ba Reeba. I sat outside overlooking the strip. The seated me next to another lone diner and he and I struck up a conversation. He enjoyed his peppers and a scallops dish. He also ordered the appetizers I had and liked them as well. I had a rice and mushroom croqueta ($1.50) which was my surprise favorite of all week. I wish I had ordered more. I also had the serrano ham and carmelized pineapple ($1.50). Their passionfruit sangrias ($12 each) were very good. I also had their special paella ($10.95), which was a sausage paella. This took 35 minutes to cook but was well worth it. However, I did not ask in advance what types of sausage was in it. I ate some of it and it was great but then I LOOKED at it and realized that the one sausage was really dark. I asked the extremely helpful and friendly waiter and he told me it was morcilla. Knowing enough Spanish to figure out the root of this word, I realized it was blood sausage. He felt bad telling me because I had enjoyed it up to that point. Oh well. I tried to eat the rest of it and was so full I couldn't even fit in more of the sausage I liked. But he convinced me to try one of their small desserts. The coconut cake was a moist coconut pudding cake($2.99), not the Pepperidge Farm layer type. Incredible.
For dinner (I didn't pay for dinners so I didn't look at prices) I had a decent Tuscan Chicken sandwich at Planet Hollywood in Caesar's one night and the chicken hibachi at Benihana. At Lawry's I had a very good typical prime rib dinner and a great chocolate bag chocolate mousse dessert. The Malbec wine was very good, but then I like malbecs. At Origin India, we ordered several dishes family style. My favorites were the potatoes and spinach and a spicy chicken dish. The tandoor chicken Lahsooni was good but not full of spice. Paul our server was extremely knowledgeable about beers as was one of the people at our table. So we tried some different beers, a couple Belgian ales -- one light and one dark, a beer brewed in the Champagne style, a raspberry beer and a cherry beer. The Cherish Kriek cherry beer was my favorite. I don't typically drink beer but that one and the champagne style one were very drinkable. My favorite dinner was at Lotus of Siam. I had the crispy rice appetizer at a spicy level 5 which was too much for my husband but okay for me. I had my Tom Yum Kai soup at a 6 or 7 which was tasty but almost too spicy for me. The lime drink really helped cool things down. For an entree I had the Spicy Beef Salad at a 6 or 7. It was so flavorful and the beef just melted in your mouth. For dessert we ordered the sticky rice with mango and the coconut ice cream. I didn't care much for the sticky rice, although my husband LOVED it. I really liked the coconut ice cream. He also got a Thai iced tea that was too spicy for me, but again he liked it.


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The mandate of the United Nations Disengagement Observer Force between Israeli and Syrian forces on the Golan Heights was extended by the Security Council Friday evening for six months. The vote was 13 in favor. China and Iraq did not take part in the vote, as they did not in the vote extending the life of UN forces in the buffer zone in the Sinai desert. The UNDOF resolution was sponsored by Austria. Cameroon. Indonesia. Kenya, Mauritania and Peru.
Yosef Tekoah. the Israeli Ambassador to the UN, said the extension was a "positive development." that UNDOF was an essential part of the Israeli-Syrian disengagement and that "proper observance" of the agreement required "the continued functioning" of UNDOF. Secretary General Kurt Waldheim, speaking before the vote, said that on the basis of his Mideast trip last week he believed "all governments concerned are anxious to reach a settlement through negotiations."

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"It is one of the very first art books which helped artists develop the aptitude for seeing the inner essence of various natural phenomena."Shambhala Sun
"Guide to Capturing a Plum Blossom could fit neatly into any number of contemporary-sounding categories: hybrid text, art book, lyric essay, etc. It is a book that relies on interdependence of image and text, of history and the present, of evocation and concrete image."The Rumpus
"Red Pine introduces Western readers to both the text itself and the traditions it has inherited."Virginia Quarterly Review
"All lovers of Asian poetry, mysterious history, divine drawing, and plum blossoms will enjoy this book. Thank you once again, Red Pine, for deep translation."Michael McClure
Through a series of brief four-lined poems and illustrations, Sung Po-jen aims at training artistic perception: how to truly see a plum blossom. First published in AD 1238, Guide to Capturing a Plum Blossom is considered the world's earliest-known printed art books. This bilingual edition contains the one hundred woodblock prints from the 1238 edition, calligraphic Chinese poems, and Red Pine's graceful translations and illuminating commentaries.
"Tiger Tracks"
winter wind bends dry grass
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Red Pine's commentary: "The Chinese liken the north wind that blows down from Siberia in winter to a roaring tiger. China is home to both the Siberian and the South China tigers. While both are on the verge of extinction, the small South China tiger still appears as far north as the Chungnan Mountains, where hermits have shown me their tracks."
Sung Po-jen was a Chinese poet of the thirteenth century.
Red Pine (a.k.a. Bill Porter) is one of the world's foremost translators of Chinese poetry and religious texts. His published translations include The Collected Songs of Cold Mountain, Lao-tzu's Taoteching, and Poems of the Masters. He lives near Seattle, Washington.
Lo Ch'ing: Lo Ch'ing was the Executive Secretary of Chinese PEN and an advisor to Taiwan's Ministry of Culture.
Red Pine: Red Pine (aka Bill Porter) is one of the world's foremost translators of Chinese poetry and religious texts. He was born in Los Angeles in 1943, grew up in the Idaho Panhandle, served a tour of duty in the U.S. Army, graduated from the University of California with a degree in anthropology, and attended graduate school at Columbia University. Uninspired by the prospect of an academic career, he dropped out of Columbia and moved to a Buddhist monastery in Taiwan. After four years with the monks and nuns, he struck out on his own and eventually found work at English-language radio stations in Taiwan and Hong Kong, where he interviewed local dignitaries and produced more than a thousand programs about his travels in China.
Red Pine's published translations include The Collected Songs of Cold Mountain, for which he was awarded the WESTAF Award in Translation; Poems of the Masters; In Such Hard Times: The Poetry of Wei Ying-wu, which recieved the 2010 Lucien Stryk Asian Translation Prize; Lao-tzu's Taoteching; The Zen Works of Stonehouse ; Guide to Capturing a Plum Blossom by Sung Po-jen, for which he was awarded a PEN West translation prize; and The Zen Teachings of Bodhidharma. He is also the author of Zen Baggage and Road to Heaven: Encounters with Chinese Hermits. He lives in Port Townsend, Washington.


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DHL Express, the world's leading international express services provider, announces a new partnership with Worldreader, a non-profit organization that advances literacy in developing countries by providing e-books to children in need. DHL Express will support Worldreader's mission of putting 1,000,000 Amazon KindlesTM loaded with some of the world's best-loved books into the hands of young children in Uganda, Ghana, Kenya and Tanzania before the end of 2015.
"Digital books are the most innovative, efficient way to improve literacy in developing countries, so millions can improve their lives," said David Risher, CEO and co-Founder of Worldreader. "Although the transportation infrastructure in many African countries that we serve can be challenging, we're thrilled to now work closely with a company like DHL Express which has so much experience in this diverse region."
DHL Express was the first international express company to operate in Africa and is the only carrier to have a dedicated air network in the continent. Through the partnership, DHL Express will deliver Worldreader's educational products to African countries, enabling the non-profit organization to purchase more e-readers and books for distribution to those in need.
"We admire the valuable work that is being done by Worldreader and are pleased to be playing a role in spreading literacy throughout the world," said Ian Clough, CEO of DHL Express U.S. "As a company that operates globally, our team of international specialists has seen firsthand the impact that books and education can play in shaping the lives of children."
DHL has long been committed to corporate responsibility programs. The Company's GoTeach program creates and improves educational opportunities for children and teens around the world by partnering with organizations such as the US-based Teach For All network and the SOS Children Villages.
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Shady Grove United Methodist Church will host a gospel concert at 6 p.m. Saturday, Nov. 9, as a fundraising event for children's game night and the food pantry.
The featured groups will be Driven, Mercy Seat and Little Driven
Shady Grove UMC, which has about 50 members, has begun a ministry that benefits both young people and adults in the community.
"The church hosts a Harvest Table the last Wednesday of every month. We feed from 14-35 people and give each of them groceries to take home," said Betty Gibson, a Shady grove member. "Also, every other Friday night, we provide a meal and games for the children. This takes real commitment on the part of our members."
Driven was formed in 2005 with the mission of "spreading the Word of God through words and music." They have sung in churches, both large and small, and do this for a freewill offering
The group is comprised of Mike Jones from Lynnville, lead singer; Danny Jones of Lynnville, baritone; Mark Jones of Lynnville, tenor; and Mark Clem of Athens, Ala., bass.
Mercy Seat (formerly The Calvarymen) includes Mark Shelton of Rogersville, Ala., lead singer; Tomnmy Word of Lexington, Ala., bass and emcee for the group; Pam Word, wife of Tommy, who is a versatile singer and sings various parts; and Lee Edwards of Giles County, singing baritone.
Also performing will be Little Driven, comprised of Ryan and Luke Jones and Karlee and Sam Jones.
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Exploring the rides and reasoning of a group of motorcyclists in the Mid West, this documentary is sort of a personal look into motorcycling as passion. Riding a motorcycle may not have any rational explanation, but this is one man's attempt to answer the question, "why ride?"
Photo: Grant Ray
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Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:42:07 GMT —
After two years of being out of commission, the Recollections exhibit at the Albany Museum of Art is back up and running thanks to a grant made by Mitchell EMC.
The company donated $8,000 which made it possible to fly the artist, Ed Tannenbaum, out from his home in Calfornia to fix and upgrade the system.
Tannenbaum's show uses a projector to capture movements and post them on a screen in vivid, LED colors -- capturing the attention of kids and instantly turning adults into children trying to create colorful patterns.
The exhibit was first introduced in 1999 and Tannenbaum says he's excited to be able to come out and use the new technology made since then to make his exhibit bigger and better.
Tannenbaum will complete his work and fly back Tuesday night. Museum staff says Recollections Version 5 will be available to the public starting on Wednesday.
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Has the bloom come off the Colin Kaepernick rose?
Last year's whiz kid when he came on to replace the injured Alex Smith before taking over the job full time, Kaepernick has not come close to the same level of play that he produced last season when he led the San Francisco 49ers to a Super Bowl berth.
A year ago, Kaepernick was one of three super exciting rookie quarterbacks -- the others being Washington's Robert Griffin III and Seattle's Russell Wilson - that looked as if they would revolutionize the game. All three played with enthusiasm and excitement and came armed with a new-look read option, as they raced around the field with their feet and launched accurate bombs with their arms.
The trio had great success with RG3 finally injured at the end of the season and in need of knee surgery.
Of the three this season, Wilson is having the most success as he has led his team to a 9-1 record and a two-game lead over San Fran in the NFC West.
Wilson has struggled at times, but not as much as Kaepernick, who is coming off a disastrous performance last week against the Carolina Panthers.
Late Sunday afternoon, Kaepernick faces another tough test when he battles the New Orleans Saints and their revamped defence under Rob Ryan.
In big games against tough defences this season, Kaepernick has struggled. Last week against the Panthers, he was 11-for-22 for 91 yards. Coupled with the six sacks and the 45 yards lost yards, the 49ers passing game netted an embarrassing 46 yards.
So far this season, the San Francisco passing game has been stuck in neutral and is ranked 32nd and dead last in the league with just 1,565 yards gained. Kaepernick, ranked 23rd in passing, has nine TD passes against six picks and has been sacked 21 times.
There was no question that in the last off-season, teams would learn to be better prepared for read-option quarterback. Injuries to the 49ers receiving corps also have taken their toll as has Kaepernick's hesitancy. A year ago he just let it rip, but this season he has appeared a little more tentative.
Kaepernick's miserable performance against Carolina led to harsh criticism from ESPN analyst and former NFL quarterback Trent Dilfer, who said the San Fran pivot is a "remedial passer after his first read is taken away."
In response, the 49ers circled the wagons.
"I didn't hear what he had to say, but he's not in the building with us," Kaepernick told San Francisco area reporters. "So what he's saying really doesn't affect me at all. I'm worried about what this team thinks, and what I'm doing in here with my teammates. I think you should ask him if he knows what my progression is first before he says that.
His coach, Jim Harbaugh, is clearly in the quarterback's camp.
"We don't think anything's wrong with Colin," Harbaugh said. "We feel like his progression's been very good. He's playing winning football for us and that's what we expect."
A loss against the favoured Saints would drop the 49ers to 6-4 and put them in a big hole back of the Seahawks. The 49ers are not yet in danger of missing the playoffs altogether.
A loss on Sunday would put a serious dent in their division title plans and force them to play on the road in the playoffs as a wild-card team.
One way or another the season won't be getting any easier for their second-year quarterback.
Little was known about Packers third-string quarterback Scott Tolzien prior to last Sunday's emergency appearance after backup QB Seneca Wallace suffered a groin injury on the first series against Philadelphia.
The third-year pro out of Wisconsin came into the game -- all-world quarterback Aaron Rodgers is out indefinitely with a broken left collarbone -- and came up with a decent performance as he was 24-for-39 for 280 yards and a touchdown. He also threw two interceptions.
Still, it was a good debut under trying circumstances.
This Sunday, when the Pack face the Giants in New Jersey, Tolzien will receive another stern test.
At practice this week, the Packers have been impressed with his work ethic and demeanour.
"The man loves it, and you've got to appreciate his work ethic," Packers coach Mike McCarthy told reporters this week. "It's refreshing, and it's good for everybody. He's going about it the right way."
Preparation, Tolzien believes, is the key.
"The most important thing is that the preparation is where you make your hay. You have to win the week first," Tolzien said. "That's where a lot of the wins and losses come, how do you approach the week leading up to the game. The best way to combat pressure is to prepare the right way.
"I think you build your confidence through your preparation through the week. Hopefully as the week goes on, your confidence builds more and more with your comfort level and your preparation and your plan."
With Rodgers out and Green Bay tied with the Bears, both teams at 5-4 and a game back of NFC North-leading Detroit, it's nail-biting time for Pack fans.
How Tolzien plays will either add to or help ease their anxieties.
Veteran Ed Reed is back in the game and back with an old coach.
Let go by the struggling Houston Texans on Tuesday, Reed was signed by the New York Jets on Thursday.
It would be something of a long shot to think that the former all-pro safety would be able to be ready to play against the Buffalo Bills on Sunday but then again, Reed played for many seasons in Jets coach Rex Ryan's defence in Baltimore.
"This had nothing to do with sentiment. We believe it will be a great signing for us and he's going to help this football team," Ryan told reporters.
If Reed, who was a major disappointment in Houston, can't get ready in time for Buffalo, he will have plenty of motivation the following week when the Jets travel to Baltimore to face the Ravens.
At 35 and with so much wear and tear, Reed may not be a starter for the Jets, but still could be a big help to the secondary under the right circumstances.
The day before, Ryan was asked if he was interested in Reed and gave an enthusiastic thumbs-up.
"The big picture of right now, the current football team, I'm probably not the right guy to make all those decisions," Ryan told reporters when asked Wednesday about Reed. "I think sometimes there's a comfort level in knowing guys, without question, guys that certainly played well for you. I'd like those guys, without question."
Now he has one of those players back.
Thanks to the return of head coach Gary Kubiak, the Houston Texans will have an emotional lift on Sunday when they attempt to snap their seven-game losing streak at home against Oakland.
"It just feels great to be back," Kubiak, who suffered a mini-stroke at the half in a game against Indianapolis on Nov. 3, told reporters. "You have a true appreciation for the opportunity that you have and the opportunity to be around the players ... and the chance to do my job again."
Kubiak added that he is on a limited work schedule this week but will be in charge and on the sidelines on Sunday.
Defensive end J.J. Watt believes Kubiak's presence will provide a lift.
"I'm happiest for him because I know that this is what he loves to do and this is his passion," Watt said.
On another front, Denver head coach John Fox, who underwent aortic valve surgery a week ago, hopes to make it back to the sidelines before the season ends.
"My goal and dream is obviously to be there before the conclusion of this season," Fox said in a conference call. "I feel good."
There is no timetable for his return.
Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III is growing weary of the pounding.
Last year, he ended the season playing on basically one leg and required major knee surgery.
The idea for 2013 was to have RG3 run less, get rid of the ball quicker and avoid the hits. But that hasn't worked out.
In last week's loss against the Vikings, Griffin was hit 18 times, which puts him in jeopardy for further injury. RG3 is too valuable a commodity to have him get mugged like that on a regular basis and the offensive line will be charged with doing a better job of protecting him this Sunday when the Redskins take on the Eagles in a key division matchup.
"Bottom line, I can't take those amount of hits," Griffin told ESPN.com of the game against Minnesota. "You don't want to be hit that much. A lot of great quarterbacks don't get hit that much. It's not just me, it's a lot of things that go into that. We just have to get better."
Against Minnesota, Griffin has one of his better games as he threw for 281 yards and three touchdowns while running for 44 yards.
The Redskins will take a repeat performance on Sunday in a heartbeat.
It's the 18 hits they want to change.
The Baltimore Ravens have been anything but Super this season.
With a 4-5 record and sitting in second spot in the AFC North, two games back of the Cincinnati Bengals, the defending Super Bowl champs will have to punch it into high gear for the remainder of the season, beginning with Sunday's game at Chicago against the Bears.
Joe Flacco has looked ordinary throwing the ball while the Ravens running game, led by veteran Ray Rice, has been non-existent.
Slowed by a nagging hip injury, Rice has gained just 289 yards this season. That's all gonna change, Rice said.
"Once I get a little space, you'll see I'm clear off the injury," Rice told the Baltimore Sun. "It's an ongoing battle that you just have to keep working through. This is something different for me, it's something different for the offensive line, and it's something different for all of us. It's something we're not used to."
Overall, the Ravens are 29th in rushing and are tied with the Jacksonville Jaguars for a league-worst 2.8 yards per carry.
"I don't need to prove I'm a Pro Bowler," Rice said. "I've been there three times already and I've won a Super Bowl. Proving all that stuff all over again is not in my best interest. It's trying to do whatever I can to make the Baltimore Ravens win football games. As long as I'm able to do that, I'm fine with that."
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Source: The Fifth Estate
This past weekend, on CBC News television, the Fifth Estate aired an in depth look into the world of Sam Brown by reporter Linden MacIntyre. It's a pretty good piece and we want to share it with everyone that has been following the story since Sam's death late last winter.
More inside
Over the Edge
On February 23, 2009, 24-year-old Sam Brown of British Columbia was arrested by U.S. authorities in Washington State as he landed a helicopter he had piloted across the border. Sam's crime: he was attempting to smuggle almost 200 kilograms of marijuana, "B.C. Bud". Only a few days after his arrest, Sam hanged himself in his jail cell. In Over the Edge, Linden MacIntyre takes us into the world of drug smuggling in B.C. and the role in it of young people like Sam Brown.
Sam was an extreme sports enthusiast, who thrived on the adrenaline of risk taking. He grew up in the B.C. interior, living in Nelson, where the flourishing mountain biking scene offered him new challenges. Rugged and picturesque, Nelson is a hotbed for the young and unconventional, a magnet for extreme sports enthusiasts—and a centre for the lucrative, underground marijuana industry.
The homegrown pot, "B.C. Bud", pours billions of illegal dollars into local economies in B.C. Huge demand for the drug has allowed Nelson to ride out normal economic swings. But "B.C. Bud" also fuels a multi-billion dollar criminal enterprise on B.C.'s lower mainland and the United States, sustained largely by a core group of thrill-seekers like Sam—young people who smuggle drugs for the sheer high of the risk and their addiction to the money.
In Over the Edge, the fifth estate reconstructs Sam's final smuggling mission. Linden MacIntyre speaks with a former smuggler who recruited Sam into that world. Viewers will also hear from his sisters and father, still grappling with the circumstances of his arrest and his death, as well as Sam's American lawyers, some of the last people to speak with him before he took his life.
Link to CBC to view the feature - Over the Edge
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135 Comments
+ 15
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:02)
I feel bad for his family . but just because he rode bikes everyone has so much sympathy for him. he was a criminal. Smuggling drugs is illegal in Canada and the US and drains our society by feeding into an already seemingly unstoppable system of crime. he deserved to go to jail and his suicide is just cowardly. This man had no integrity and deserves no pity. His family suffers because of him and your condolences should be with them. This story is quite tragic.
+ 12
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:10)
I agree with everything that you've said, accept the cowardly reference. People make choices everyday in life, his choice to commit suicide is obviously one of the biggest choices one could ever make. While I don't think it was cowardly, I do believe it was a selfish decision.
+ 8
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:12)
I agree with what you say, riding a bike does not erase the deeds you do in life. his parents never inteneded to raise a criminal, or lose their son to Suicide. the guilt, anger and saddness for them will be unmeasurable. Ninjaty your words are true but sound harsh you speak like you have been touched by a suicide before...it is a dark road.
+ 6
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:20)
Hey if you lived in a town where pot was so normalized how would you look at things? How would that effect your decision making? I grew up with people shooting deer out of season and drinking and driving it was normalized for me and I did it some, till I got caught and paid a price. I am not saying it was right but look at the bigger picture of it all. Its sad but nobody that lives there seems to mind the recession proof town. Many people make mistakes lets leave it at that, his was just more publicized. What if everyone knew every mistake you made. How would you be looked upon?
+ 7
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:21)
I wouldnt use the word cowardly...especially if the family ends up reading this.
+ 1
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:27)
Wow, I say he's a criminal and I get neg prop'd. How you manage this ninjaty? Hahah. I'm with you on this one 100%
+ 0
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:38)
It's amazing to see how many kids on this website don't realize the downside of major drug smuggling. Sure, he was a regular guy, but he got pulled into a dangerous thing and he took a fall for another criminal. There isn't honour among thieves and Sam sounded like a guy who WAS smarter than that.
+ 0
(Nov 17, 2009 at 15:58)
truth has been spoken. haha.
+ 4
(Nov 17, 2009 at 20:05)
...cowardly? Definitely Not the right word, I don't know if there is any word to describe what he did. Mostly just not thinking his decision all the way through, combined with the weight of 350lbs of marijuana on his shoulders and being so far from home. I think that pressure, could have made any person no matter how strong, not think so clearly.
Sometimes you have the courage to live, and sometimes you have the courage to die.
Neither of them were an easy choice through his eyes.
+ 1
(Nov 20, 2009 at 8:25)
"Have courage to die?" there is nothing noble or couragous about suicide. It was cowardly becuse he did not have the character to face his consequenses with dignity or even a glimmer of being able to learn from his mistakes. Instead, he took his own life. That is not courage. That is a coward.
+ 0
(Nov 20, 2009 at 15:31)
+ 1
(Nov 20, 2009 at 21:53)
Everyone has there own opinion, i think there are different types of courage, maybe not the best kind of it but its still there.. In no way is it an easy decision to end your life. A little bit of empathy is all it takes to understand what someone would be thinking, if you were in there place. I definitely don't think his last thoughts were, 'hey i don't want to go to jail, it would be so much easier to kill myself, then i can get away with it?' how could it be cuz everyone knows what happens after death..? like its this easy fun place where everythings made out of cotton candy and butterflies.
+ 1
(Nov 20, 2009 at 21:57)
I'm not trying to start anything tho, it's just sad for a young guy to die. we can all agree on that.
+ 15
(Nov 16, 2009 at 23:52)
Sadly a talented driven individual like him chose the wrong path after being lured in by the easy money and an adrenaline rush. The one thing that kept being said was that he wasn't stupid. Well, I don't wish to offend anyone...but it's pretty common knowledge that the US has a much more strict way of dealing with drug offenders on all levels...but especially with people working organized drug smuggling operations. He was NOT dealing out a few joints to friends here and there for pocket change. He was very much involved with high end smuggling of large amounts of multiple drugs. Big time stuff. If he didn't know what he was getting into or the characters he was associating with, his judgment was certainly not the best. Anyone who is considering doing anything remotely like this should take this story as an example of what can happen when getting involved with any level of the drug trade. Again, a sad ending. However, maybe some people should try to learn from his very costly mistake.
+ 13
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:32)
All so sad. Who are you to judge Sam Brown? Who are any of us to judge Sam? I didn't know him. I bet most of you didn't either. He made his choices, he would have rather died then spend 40 years in prison. I think many of us would do the same. I am not saying what he had done was right or wrong. I do think that the legalization of pot would totally cripple all of the west coast gangs, restore B.C's economy, + generate huge tax revenues for the feds. Big Brother down south makes sure we don't, so the killing on the coast will continue, and kids like Sam will continue to be victimized by quick money and the rush involved in smuggling. This really shouldn't happen.
I agree with Bigtard, leave him alone. Pay your respects to a fellow rider, if you don't agree shut your mouth.
+ 3
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:38)
off topic
Newfdh your name implies an east coast connection, is this true?
I hail from Isle Aux Morts
+ 3
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:40)
Well the thing is, the B.C. economy is doing pretty darn good. As mentioned in the documentary, they don't have recessions because of the underground business in some cities keeping a illegal, but steady income to the town.
+ 6
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:45)
Well one thing to add I don't agree with the cocaine that was suppose to come back. I work at an addictions facility and I don't care what it does for the economy of a town it wrecks alot of lives and has alot of long term effects and not just for the individual addicted.
+ 3
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:48)
Well you really could say the same for 200KG of weed, it's a pretty large amount that doesn't cause addiction but causes some pretty criminal activity. Anything illegal can ruin society.
+ 4
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:53)
Don't get me wrong though it was a tragedy what happened. I felt awful after watching the show. No disrespect meant by any comments made here to Sam or his family.
+ 2
(Nov 16, 2009 at 23:02)
Same here. It's terrible to see what a seemingly normal biker/teenager got himself into.
- 1
(Nov 16, 2009 at 23:07)
Legalizing Pot won't cripple west coast organized crime, X and Meth pay better.
+ 3
(Nov 16, 2009 at 23:13)
Sad story indeed. No ones judging Sam. Feel terrible for his family tho. With regards to legalizing and taxing pot, It may seem like a good idea at first...gov't makes revenue, ppl are happy, criminal activity falls..blah blah, Now concider the downside. Greater healthcare costs (greater cancer risks), young individuals with early addiction problems and greater risk of being addicted to other types of drugs. Legalization will mainly harm the younger portion of population rather than individuals who are already long term users of pot. BC's economy isnt doing too bad as it is. Plus what are the Cops gonna do for living if there are no one to bust.
+ 2
(Nov 17, 2009 at 9:46)
True, but they could make it like tobacco or alcohol, where the legal age of purchase is 19. Sure kids would still get ahold of it. But they do with cigarettes and booze anyway.
+ 0
(Nov 18, 2009 at 13:25)
Sorry someguy101, but most of what you said about marijuana is infact false. First you should consider the effects of tobacco and alcohol. If pot was to be legalized, and say more people used it as their drug of choice, we would see less cancer is smokers. No case of lung cancer has ever been linked to marijuana smoke only. Also, we would see a reduced number of accidents from drunk driving. We would see less abuse in the home environment from alcohol induced beatings. We would see fewer deaths in college and high school students from alcohol poisoning from binge drinking. Also, marijuana is one of the most nonaddictive substances on earth. And marijuana certainly does not make you at a "greater risk of being addicted to other types of drugs." Marijuans is also one of the most nonlethal. You can die from drinking too much alcohol, eating too many hamburgers, even drinking too much water. If marijuana actually could kill people, we would have all heard about it by now. But it doesn't, it has killed nobody, ever. And finally, if marijuana was legalized, then cops would be able to spend their time busting criminals who have drugs that actually harm people, like meth, heroine, crack, and coke. Think about it.
+ 1
(Nov 19, 2009 at 21:31)
Legalization of pot would simply add-on to the already existing negetive effcts of alcohol and tabaco. Addiction is dependant mainly on personality type imo. If you smoke enough of anything you will obviously develope some sort of health problem whether it be cancer or what have ya. Imo it would lead to overall welfare loss to society in form of healthcare costs and less productive society. But hey if you like it smoke it no ones stoping you now. Its BC.
+ 9
(Nov 16, 2009 at 21:41)
It is a sad story for sure. What it also does is highlight the fact that there is a lot more to pot than chilling out with your buddies and smoking a joint, it's all connected.
+ 11
(Nov 16, 2009 at 20:24)
sad to see a great guy, great rider, and smart kid go like this.
+ 3
(Nov 16, 2009 at 21:40)
Only for certain medical conditions. Not legal to carry any unperscribed.
+ 7
(Nov 16, 2009 at 21:42)
This piece was really well put together and it's cool to learn more about it than just a small news brief.
+ 10
(Nov 16, 2009 at 21:46)
sad to hear.. RIP man
+ 5
(Nov 16, 2009 at 21:57)
Sucks so bad. You can tell he was a good kid that just got in too deep.
+ 5
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:06)
man this guy was so talented and so young to die...RIP dude But man getting caught smuggling 350lbs of marijuana in America...means major jail time cuz they are so damn strict there
+ 4
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:06)
there was a pinkbike article a couple months back on Sam Brown, it gives a great perspective on it to
- 10
(Nov 17, 2009 at 1:06)
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why there was that piece of cloth in jail? dont they know that it can be used for suicides?
Idiots, sorry for sam
+ 6
(Nov 17, 2009 at 1:26)
it was a bed sheet dude...
+ 3
(Nov 17, 2009 at 10:32)
oh sorry then. i bad
+ 5
(Nov 17, 2009 at 13:20)
meh, if it was legalised it could be regulated and taxed, like prostitution, making it illegal just ramps up the prices causing more crime. alcohol is vastly more dangerous than weed anyway.
+ 2
(Nov 17, 2009 at 13:24)
does anyone know if he was a member here on PB ??
+ 2
(Nov 17, 2009 at 14:34)
he probly was. this was a real tragedy.
+ 1
(Nov 17, 2009 at 15:20)
I just searched to see if Sam was on Pinkbike, there are Sam Browns, but not this particular one.
- 3
(Nov 17, 2009 at 19:09)
Charges for weed were only one of his problems, he supposed to smuggle coke on his way back, coke not necessarily but might be easily converted into crack and that's what makes him a loser in my book.
+ 1
(Nov 18, 2009 at 7:43)
well calling a kid who is now dead because of some poor choices is no reason to call him a loser. he was a very good kid, liked by everyone, always looking for adventure.
+ 1
(Nov 18, 2009 at 15:30)
He's not saying that he is a loser because he dead, he is saying that cocaine trafficking makes him a loser.
+ 2
(Nov 20, 2009 at 13:52)
^exactly - I didn't say he's a loser because he's dead, I was shocked and sad when i heard that. I remember his segment in NWD and It's one of my favorites, BUT trafficking cocaine that can be easily converted in to one of the most destructive and addictive drugs, is wrong. I used to live in east London and like many of you living in similar kind of places saw enough thieving crackheads running around with knives and such to have strong opinion on the matter. And sad to say people like Sam are part of the cause of the problem, grabbing quick easy money without thinking about how it might affect others.
+ 2
(Dec 4, 2009 at 16:31)
to fallline. how in hell is was he a "smart kid"!!??!! RIP to sam btw. he was an idiot though. bring on the neg props!
+ 0
(Dec 4, 2009 at 16:43)
Smart enough to fly a helicopter..........can U? And if you guys read the article- the cocaine was intercepted, therefore he didn't touch the stuff, if it wasn't intercepted and he flew it back into Japanada then you guys have something to say- but he didn't. He got caught with weed and the DEA scared him so bad with 'possible' sentences, that he freaked out and did what he did..............its a sad story altogether. Let's keep Sam Brown in the positive for his MTB friends and family. We all learned something from this. Happy Holidays everyone!
- 1
(Dec 4, 2009 at 23:38)
You don't have to be smart to fly a helicopter it's a technical skill. Plenty of dumb drivers, dumb truck drivers, dumb pilots...just because you can learn a technical skill does not make you smart. I'm sure that Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, or Steven Hawking aren't l33t drivers but they are smart as hell.
Doesn't matter if he didn't get a chance to "touch" the cocaine he was still going to transport it.
And don't try to lay the blame on the DEA or the justice department they weren't the ones who decided to traffic narcotics. (personal opinions don't factor into facts of law, so don't start about how weed is x, y, and z...not making a moral or policy argument)
Now see you didn't say what "we all learned something from this" so what did we "learn" cause I can't even figure anything out from your statements before this sentence. People should learn that international drug smuggling is highly illegal and the consequences are severe and scary.
+ 1
(Dec 5, 2009 at 9:57)
As a 19 year old, you sure have a strong view of what happened. Its definenately misconstrued. You can argue your 'point' all you want- but the kid is dead from being in a US Jail, held by DEA aents who told him hw was going to be locked up for 40+ years- how would you react? Yeah- that's what I thought.
+ 1
(Dec 5, 2009 at 15:57)
What is misconstrued? Sam is dead because he killed himself, sure he got scared from what he possibly could be tried for but it was his choice to smuggle drugs internationally, as was suicide. Not saying that he deserved it or it was right, but his actions led to this whether or not I or anyone else agrees with anything.
And since you didn't refute any of my arguments, my argument about my "point" is right over yours.
+ 6
(Nov 16, 2009 at 23:37)
I didn't know much about Sam before I watched this show on CBC. Good example that crime and greed doesn't pay. In my honest opinion he took huge chances and wasn't ready to pay the price if he got caught. Sadly, he decided to take the easy way out. I hope this doc is seen by lots of people. It serves and excellent lesson for anyone thinking of getting into the smuggling biz.
+ 5
(Nov 17, 2009 at 8:31)
i feel bad for the guy, he seemed like a real nice person who rode their bike but... lets face it, if this article was posted on pinkbike and it was just about some random guy who smuggled drugs and DIDNT bike, then he would get flamed by many. it was a stupid desicion to smuggle drugs and i dont know if he was either fully concious or on drugs or something when he hung himself, but that was also dumb.
40 years is a long time in jail, but really, be good in jail, they usually reduce your sentence by a few years. think of all the things you are leaving behind when you die. your causing grief on family and friends, you will never have kids/ a wife, never ride a bike again, and so many other simple joys in life. i wish he could be alive in jail right now and when he got out, im sure he would be happy if he had waited and could lead a normal life and die peacefully
RIP Sam
I hope you are riding the sweet trails of heaven
+ 5
(Nov 18, 2009 at 20:02)
ha ha im from nelson i knew the kid and many ppl that knew him. he was one of those ppl that had a quality that you dont see very often .. so what he fuckin moved some weed n shit all you internet critics omg he is sooo bad...get reeal i bin to prison sold drugs yadi yadi w e i changed my life i am a professional tradesmen and am a nice guy any of you shit talkin him have clearly never been busted by the cops for a seriouse crime you would know that they just try to scare you reeal bad..well he didnt know any better and they prolley told him he would spend the rest of his life in prison which would be why he killed himself. if they would have told him the truth which is get a good lawyer and hell get you moved to a canadian prison with no priors you would probably be out in 5 to 7 he would still be alive so blame the boys for that instead of callin him a coward
+ 4
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:53)
I watched this last night. I feel bad for the guy and his family. Just someone looking to make a quick buck in this shit slave society we live in. Who cares that he did a bit of dealing. How does that compare to corporate banks playing with peoples money, stealing, lying, manipulating economies etc?
+ 7
(Nov 16, 2009 at 23:50)
It wasn't exactly "a bit of dealing." He smuggled hundreds of kilos of pot to the US on each trip while he brought back cocaine that was brought to the US from Mexico back into Canada. It was larger than most of us think. I mean most people usually don't have access to helicopters, know how to fly them, or where to find them, and the helicopter mysteriously registered to an acquaintance and well known drug dealer's family just makes something wishy washy.
It's weird how the show explained what he did this as an adventure and doing it for the thrill rather than anything else. Although the money was lucrative and enticing, there were several points made that he was going to stop once he paid for the girl who was incarcerated because of the groups' tactics and he felt obligated to pay for her attorney.
I find it weird that you compare drug dealing to "corporate banks playing with peoples money, stealing, lying, manipulating economies etc?" when this exact behavior ultimately led to Sam's death. Sam needed the money so there was this looming attraction and lust for it in order to pay for an attorney for the girl that was imprisoned. He "stole" the helicopter that he used on his last drop or that is what the owner claims. The drug dealer on the US side who was supposed to be at the drop point was missing in action for 3 days and other people involved in this smuggling operation on the US side knew this vital information and didn't let Sam know. Had he known, the argument is that he wouldn't have flown and risked it. Therefore, he was manipulated by the very people who he trusted.
+ 7
(Nov 16, 2009 at 23:50)
From the story, it sounds like he was awaiting trial and hadn't been convicted. They made a note saying that drug smuggling brings sentences from 5-40 years but he was never arraigned on anything. For all we know, he could have been sentenced for 5 years and brought back to Canada to serve this time. We will never know. Even the lawyers tried to show him the "positives" in the situation. However, I think he already made his decision when he was caught to take his own life because he didn't want his family deeply involved in this. It is a very tragic and unfortunate story but it is becoming an alarming reality. First Sam Brown, then Missy Giove…
+ 3
(Nov 17, 2009 at 6:45)
Laurie, from an article i read a while back, it appeared that his sentence would not have been that long, a fair stretch yes, but one where he would be out of jail within his youth, people cannot defend the lad realistically, 350lb's of weed is a HUGE amount, people need to learn to look at the situation as if he wasnt a MTB'er, they would all be saying "f*ck him."
And fade, how can you compare this to corporate banks, you clearly dont understand banking operations, so dont go comparing it.
Its a sad story, but as laurie said, its the real world, drugs affect people, and drugs lead to death, you would all learn to take a far colder approach had you lost close members of your family to drugs.
+ 1
(Nov 17, 2009 at 20:27)
I was comparing it to power hungry corporate banks because they are doing way more criminal things then one person smuggling weed and drugs and no one does a thing about it. They are the real criminals.
+ 1
(Nov 18, 2009 at 0:08)
the irony of this is, of course, that the World Bank and IMF are the ones who go into poor countries and force them to privatize their natural resources (like the Bechtel corporation did in Bolivia in '99) to pay for the debts of the corrupt governments (many of which are in place because of military coups that the US is responsible for either allowing or initiating - see WHINSEC). the people are then forced to turn to alternative means of employment and many turn to the manufacturing of drugs as a way of sustaining their lifestyle in a failing national economy. the CIA then allows the corrupt governments or drug lords to ship their product to the US, and into the lucrative North American market (like they did in '96 to raise money for the anti-government Congras troops in Nicaragua) in exchange for either military favours, money, or valuable resources. meanwhile, the war on drugs back home allows police to crack down even harder on poor, predominantly African American citizens in drug-flooded communities, drastically increase sentences for victimless drug-related crimes, keep the prison system filled to the brim with inmates - the US has the largest prison population in the world, with over 2 million inmates - and the streets clean of the poor, drug-addicted minorities, all the while creating more consumer-friendly cities. who could disagree with that?
smalltime (relatively) smugglers like Sam Brown are just symptoms of a fundamentally flawed system. fade86's comment was entirely relevant. the corporations and banks are just as much a part of this mess as the people on the street. if you are concerned with the drug problem in North America, do some reading up on the matter. it is alarming how much of it is controlled, either directly or through negligence, by the very people fighting it.
+ 2
(Nov 18, 2009 at 17:56)
thanks frolosophy...i was beginning to think i was talking to myself.
+ 1
(Nov 18, 2009 at 19:09)
no worries, man.
+ 2
(Nov 18, 2009 at 20:33)
Kind of confused on what you mean with the comparison to big business Laurie. Corporate America is way worse than anything that this man has been accused of. It's sad that someone lost their life for something so silly as weed...no matter how much he was smuggling. Story says that he was also to pick up some cocaine on the way back. Anyone that would believe that is a fool. That is all made up by the government so people wouldn't feel sorry for the guy. B.C is not a mecca for cocaine. B.C is a mecca for weed, it's that simple. My condolences are with his loved ones and family. Poor guy knew that he was going to jail for a long time.
+ 1
(Nov 19, 2009 at 23:32)
i just realized i made a few critical typo's earlier. i meant to say Contras in the '80s not Congras in '96 (it was late, what can i say?). sorry about that.
+ 1
(Jan 18, 2010 at 6:18)
Talking about Sam right now on "The Current" on CBC Radio 1 (Jan18,2010, 9am EST)
+ 4
(Nov 17, 2009 at 0:15)
i rerember watching his segment in new world disorder 3 when i was a kid. its sad to think that people can be draged into pot smuggling so easily when they have such a good life. the trail at the end of the documentry looked nuts. to bad he isnt around to finish building it
+ 4
(Nov 17, 2009 at 5:01)
So so so so sad to see someone with a beautiful life to look forward to end up like this... Please let his FAMILY and REAL friends go on with life to remember who and what he really was.. A real young man living life for what it is, LIFE!
+ 4
(Nov 16, 2009 at 23:15)
Sad to see a young life with so much promise ended this way. Being a parent of a teen-aged boy, it's scary to think what the lure of "easy money" can do. Sam may have made some bad decisions with worse consequences, but the little guy isn't the bad one here. Large industry drug smuggling operations that take advantage of youth are.
+ 3
(Nov 17, 2009 at 18:02)
Its always that 'one last time' that brings you down. Skiing, snowboarding, DJing, DHing - whenever someone says "Just one more run" then I say "Forget it, we're done for the day".
To ignore history is to repeat it. Hopefully the publication of Sam's story will save others from his fate.
RIP Sam.
+ 7
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:28)
He dug his own grave. Sad it had to end that way. RIP.
+ 3
(Nov 17, 2009 at 7:29)
"RECUIT?" I have now watched it a 2nd time. As interesting as the story is, I feel this publication could encourage newer, young,and DUMBER riders to strive for something similar//. To ALL riders out there, there is more to life than money ! Have a happy one!
+ 2
(Nov 26, 2009 at 11:49)
-"so what he moved some weed"
yeah thats illegal. Wether it should be or not is another story because right now it is...
-"you would know they just try to scare you real bad."
He should have been scared, he was moving 200kg's of an illegal substance!!
-"he didnt know any better and they prolley told him he would spend the rest of his life in prison which would be why he killed himself."
No they told him 5-40 years for the crime he commited. If you are willing to commit the crime you better be sure what the consequences are going to be before you get into it.
-"get real ppl he lived a life full of good and he did one thing bad and thats all you see."
What you are not understanding is that he might have lived a good life, BUT HE BROKE THE LAW!!! When you are a kid your parents should have taught you that every action has a consequence, if you make a mistake you better be able to live with the consequence.
-"id be happy to meet any of you in person who has bad things to say about him and discuss it further."
Way to be cool guy! Are you going to pound your beliefs into us? Its a good thing your "trade" doesnt require any literary skills because you would be f*cked...
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(Nov 17, 2009 at 10:10)
Its sad that we know it happens, condemn it when they get caught. Its societies fault. Poor guy, lots of talent and a real future. Sam, rip bro.. hope you ride those sweet berms forever.
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(Nov 18, 2009 at 20:06)
boys in blue* if the DEA busted any of you critics im sure you would wanna die but none of you would have the stones to kill urself se hes got you beat there to cuz none of you would have the stones to fly that copter and the person who said o i dont like him cuz he brings coke back and it turns into crack well ...1 he doesnt cook it into crack to its cuz the yanks will trade you a pound of white for a pound of green straight up......if you went to another country where ur currency was worth 20 times theres would you wave the exchange rate . get real ppl he lived a life full of good and he did one thing bad and thats all you see matter fact none of you no shit and id be happy to meet any of you in person who has bad things to say about him and discuss it further.
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(Nov 17, 2009 at 6:56)
variiis (6 hours ago)
"on one hand f*ckign coppas, they scared him to death. And why there was that piece of cloth in jail? dont they know that it can be used for suicides?
Idiots, sorry for sam"
First, off he f*cked up not the cops. Secondly,the piece of cloth was a bed sheet, and he hung himself on a light that was specifically designed to not allow such a thing. Its pretty tough to stop a guy who truly wants to end it all from doing it. They told him the minimum sentence for such a crime is anywhere from 5-40 years, HE WASNT EVEN CONVICTED YET!!!
Why is it the cops fault for catching a guy who was doing something ILLEGAL, I thought that was their job. Stupid kids, own up for your mistakes, dont blame someone else.
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(Nov 18, 2009 at 20:46)
Cops make a living off of other people's mistakes. There is no one lower in this world than Cops. Cops do intimidate to no end. I've seen it many times. They get their rocks off by seeing harmless people go to jail. It's all a power trip. The way that people empower Cops is just disturbing. If you think for a minute that Cops can't scare someone into wanting to take their own life, you are sadly mistaken. Yes the guy took part in illegal activity, however anyone with a brain realizes that weed won't harm people. We have doctors prescribing drugs that are addictive and kill people. Ruining lives just to get a kickback from the drug companies. Know your rights, don't let Cops fool you or manipulate you. May God bless all the people affected by this tragedy.
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(Feb 20, 2010 at 14:53)
Rest in peace sam, nelson will never be the same without your devilish grin, i cried for you today february 20th 2010, 18th and the 19th, i know i will again, youll never be fergotten, if i could rewind time id tell you not to do it but i know you wouldnt listen, just knowing i did say it would be nice. it will be hard to go back to nelson when i do but i know that i have to do it, im going to build a bike trail for you, i know you would be proud in your honour your memory your name. RIP you crazy punk.
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(Nov 17, 2009 at 7:29)
Sam was a talented young man who was fully capable of making his own decisions. I am certain that he knew of the consequences but to a certain extent was made to feel comfortable by those who were behind the whole thing and convinced him they had insulated him from the negative portions. Nonetheless he was an adult and regardless of small minded individuals who want to blame the system he made a decision to be involved and therefore was responsible and accountable for the results, which in this case was getting caught. All the legal crap aside at the end of the day a bright young man is no longer with us and in my opinion another tragedy as a result of the illicit drug trade. He leaves behind a family who watched him take his first steps, go to off to school, light up their days with an infectious smile and ride a bike. Sam may have made some bad decisions but above all else he was a son, brother and a friend to many and that is what will and should endure. My condolences to his family and community.
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(May 23, 2010 at 17:10)
My sympathies are with his family. It's just bizarre how they make a drug runner into a great guy in the documentary, even though he lied to everyone around him. I guess it's good for ratings to spin it like that. I'm not saying he was a bad person, but he did a lot of bad things that get glossed over. I wonder how they would have spun the story if he was mexican, black, east indian, or asian.
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(Nov 17, 2009 at 21:18)
RIP unfortunately his love for helicopters turned around into drug smuggling. Its sad he took his life before he new how long he was sentenced r.i.p. Sam you will be missed.
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(Nov 17, 2009 at 11:27)
my condolences to his family and friends. i hope they can move forward from this and remember him for what he was and not for what has happened.
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(Nov 17, 2009 at 5:58)
JejQ- When did he portray to have a big mouth??? Seemed to be in his own element to me. Think twice JejQ!
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(Nov 26, 2009 at 11:32)
dualsuspensiondave (Nov 18, 2009 at 20:46)
"Cops make a living off of other people's mistakes. There is no one lower in this world than Cops. Cops do intimidate to no end. I've seen it many times. They get their rocks off by seeing harmless people go to jail. It's all a power trip. The way that people empower Cops is just disturbing.
If you think for a minute that Cops can't scare someone into wanting to take their own life, you are sadly mistaken. Yes the guy took part in illegal activity, however anyone with a brain realizes that weed won't harm people. We have doctors prescribing drugs that are addictive and kill people. Ruining lives just to get a kickback from the drug companies.
Know your rights, don't let Cops fool you or manipulate you. May God bless all the people affected by this tragedy."
You sir are an idiot... I agree that there are bad cops but wake up, the world is not out to get you. He broke the law and got caught, they explained to him that his MINIMUM SENTENCE could be anywhere from 5-40 years, HE WAS NOT EVEN CONVICTED YET!!!
Its because of people like you that there is so much bullshit going on in the first place. If people took responsibility for their actions instead of blaming someone or thing else, this world would be a much ebtter place.
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(Nov 17, 2009 at 9:05)
jinx i think you comment is bit out of order its never a good thing to hear someone had died. rip sam an to his family sorry for your loss
+ 4
(Nov 16, 2009 at 23:07)
RIP, his life was worth much more.
+ 3
(Nov 16, 2009 at 23:00)
great video. such a sad story. he seemed to be a great guy with a great future ahead of him... RIP
+ 5
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:23)
+ 3
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:12)
good job pink bike. we gonna let everyone drag Sam Brown through the mud again?
+ 9
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:22)
He is not getting dragged though the mud, Big Tard. Sam's story is a very interesting one, albeit with a very sad ending. It's up to each viewer and reader to make his own choices regarding the mud.
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(Nov 16, 2009 at 23:05)
whatever gets readers I guess tard. I wonder if this was someone who works at PB or any other media source, would the story be posted at that respective site or in print?
+ 2
(Nov 17, 2009 at 7:05)
I think this is a story many people can learn from, why not discuss it over and over, one dead man is more than enough.
+ 1
(Nov 17, 2009 at 11:25)
You realize that this was recently aired on a national, publicly-funded broadcaster, right? Pinkbike did not randomly pull it out of nowhere just to drag him "through the mud again."
+ 1
(Nov 17, 2009 at 14:02)
yeah i realize that, but that's a news website, for real news.
now ( and in the first article that had nothing to do with pinkbike ) we just had a bunch of pricks telling everyone how he deserved it and he's a bad person.
wasn't particularily respectful
see my point?
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(Nov 19, 2009 at 12:08)
Yes, I do see your point. I think maybe your distaste should be aimed more at the commenters making these disrespectful comments rather than pinkbike, no? On that point I definitely agree with you.
I do appreciate that PB chose to run this though, as it is news that would be interesting to a large % of the PB population (Canadian, national news, a known cycling figure involved, etc).
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(Nov 17, 2009 at 0:10)
Very sad story this. But my condolences go out to the Browns for their tragic loss of Sam
+ 2
(Nov 17, 2009 at 4:49)
Good story. Hard to see such an inspirational rider go out in this way. Sam brought our sport to the edge it is now and we will always know that. R.I.P. Sam.
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(Nov 17, 2009 at 13:22)
What a depressing story!! A man enjoying life gets a little to greedy, doesn't think through what major consequences he could pay, gets caught and kills himself. That makes me sad! Although he was asking to get caught and put away, my heart still goes out to the family. Screwed his life up.
+ 3
(Nov 17, 2009 at 14:55)
sam was a good guy. rip man
+ 1
(Nov 17, 2009 at 5:45)
watched this the other night. so sad to see something like this happen in the mountain bike world. dude was a killer rider for sure.
+ 4
(Nov 16, 2009 at 21:52)
very sad story
+ 3
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:56)
Never make one last run! Sad story.
+ 1
(Nov 16, 2009 at 23:52)
wow.... sad to see this, he should have just dealt with the crime, its a shame he took his own life.
+ 1
(Nov 17, 2009 at 0:29)
crazy thing is that i was living in spokane when all this was happening and didnt have a clue it was happening
+ 1
(Nov 17, 2009 at 15:06)
Thank you for posting this. I messaged Radek last night with the link to see if he would.
+ 3
(Nov 16, 2009 at 22:31)
you guys are heartless
+ 2
(Nov 16, 2009 at 21:35)
I watched this on CBC last night, very sad story.
+ 2
(Nov 16, 2009 at 21:44)
+ 3
(Nov 16, 2009 at 23:57)
Major Respect
+ 2
(Nov 17, 2009 at 16:18)
his segment in NWD was epic! this is very sad.
+ 2
(Nov 17, 2009 at 10:01)
RIP Sam. I know you are looking down on those beauty sister's of yours.
+ 2
(Nov 17, 2009 at 4:02)
good article, sad ending
+ 2
(Nov 17, 2009 at 13:50)
R.I.P. man...
+ 1
(Nov 17, 2009 at 11:45)
RIP Sam Brown! you will be greatly missed in the freeride community!
+ 1
(Nov 17, 2009 at 16:44)
gobsmacked by the documentary!
+ 1
(Nov 17, 2009 at 10:01)
All over weed.... makes me want to quit plain and simple.
- 1
(Nov 18, 2009 at 18:29)
DEA tortured him to try and find out who he was working for he said nothing and they beat him to death trying to make him talk RIP sam
+ 0
(Nov 16, 2009 at 23:09)
Did he passed his helicopter liscence or he was just good at it?
+ 1
(Nov 16, 2009 at 23:26)
haha i was kinda thinking the same thing
+ 1
(Nov 16, 2009 at 23:50)
he was not licensed
+ 1
(Nov 17, 2009 at 1:28)
he was licenced, his mother is a good frend of my mother from when sam lived in new zealand as a kid, he had a great love for helicopters from watching them fly passed his house in south west land, it is sad for his love of choppers to be used for smugling.
+ 1
(Nov 17, 2009 at 17:46)
oh i wasnt to sure thanks for the info
+ 1
(Nov 17, 2009 at 17:14)
rip man
+ 0
(Nov 17, 2009 at 16:15)
Too bad.My cousin was friends with him.
- 1
(Nov 16, 2009 at 21:48)
straight savage...everyones got their shit
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(Nov 16, 2009 at 21:39)
What a sketchy guy. Sure, he's a bike rider but if he's involved in illegal smuggling, on a large scale he deserved the time.
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(Nov 16, 2009 at 23:37)
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Why don't u watch your mouth before you say something and show some respect, if you actually took some time out of your life to watch the article you'd know he was making one last run to raise money to help a friend with legal fees, seriously show some concideration and think about what u say before just blurting it out on the internet.
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(Nov 17, 2009 at 0:10)
I DID watch it bud. He was helping another criminal who got caught smuggling ILLEGAL drugs. He was doing something illegal, he got caught, he went to jail. Justified. How can I respect a criminal? A criminal who knew of the dangers but went with it anyways, and when he was captured, wouldn't even own up to his crimes and took the easy way out, in his eyes.
How about you watch your mouth.
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(Nov 17, 2009 at 7:00)
A criminal can be great person to I guess.
It's a story with two faces. To only say that he was a good kid that got in to deep... I don't believe that. Sure he was a good kid, and sure he got in to deep, but there was something in between: the money loving criminal in him.
The Americane law is very clear about smuggling drugs, and Sam had been smuggling huge amounts of drugs, not ones but multiple times. Don't tell me he didn't knew what was comming for him if he got caught, he was really scared for a good reason.
I meen, Sam his bosses where making money on people who used drug for pleasure or to feed their addiction. People die over that shit (cocaine, maruana not so much, but also) and Sam Brown was indirectly making money on people who where f*cking up their lives. That's a bad thing and I don't want to get involved with that kind of suckers.
He did it for the adrenaline and for the money. The money part makes him a criminal, adrenaline can be found in many other ways.
It's a shame it had to go like this, he ones was a great kid and a sick rider/builder. R.I.P.
+ 4
(Nov 17, 2009 at 11:02)
I wonder how many people on pinkbike are 'criminals'? I openly admit to smoking dope, there must be hundreds of people on here who you speak to every day involved in drugs. Its a f*cking plant for christ sake.
Katinasd: Nobody has ever died as a direct result of marijuana - You'd have to take crazy amounts of THC to actually overdose.
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(Nov 17, 2009 at 11:55)
I know many people who smoke weed, I don't get all stressed about that, don't care too much really. The fact that it's a plant is not saying it won't hurt anybody. touch a yellow frog from the chineese jungle and your dead, pure nature dude. Nobody dies from smoking it ofcourse, maybe in a long terme, but here in Holland, people died because they wan't to grow and sell it. people get killed in branches where big money is made. In Holland it got to big, hope they make that stuff legal and give it away for free in the super market. Cheers
+ 1
(Nov 17, 2009 at 14:24)
Cannabis Cafe's FTW. If it was legal but restricted like tobacco there would be sooo much less hassle, and no more tragedies like this.
+ 1
(Nov 17, 2009 at 15:56)
it's hard to say where I stand one, but I my thoughts come closest to streetmtber.
+ 1
(Nov 17, 2009 at 17:40)
ahaha. a drugfreeworld.org banner comes up everytime you open this page.
+ 1
(Dec 4, 2009 at 16:32)
i am with you steetmtber
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(Nov 17, 2009 at 8:12)
Why trying to make a criminals death look tragic? He was supposed to have dealt out 200kg of illegal drugs. Good to see that dead beat gone...
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(Nov 17, 2009 at 5:28)
IMO he had big mouth. He did many things when he was free, but once they caught him.. I guess he lost faith in what he believed ( freedom ) , and thats why he commited suicide.
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The Penguins will travel to Las Vegas today to explore a possible move, as state and local leaders try to arrange a meeting with the team to get talks here back on track.
Risks over arena great for public officials and franchise
Bob Smizik: Political futures may hinge on arena deal
Surprised by the letter
Mayor can't solve this by himself
"No appetite for using local tax dollars"
"A cooperative spirit" is needed
Las Vegas is one of three cities interested in talking to the team after Penguins co-owners Mario Lemieux and Ron Burkle sent a letter to Gov. Ed Rendell, Allegheny County Chief Executive Dan Onorato and Mayor Luke Ravenstahl on Monday declaring an impasse in negotiations and saying they would "aggressively" consider relocation.
Team officials also are hoping to set up a meeting this week, possibly in Los Angeles, with representatives of Anschutz Entertainment Group, manager of the $276 million Sprint Center being built in Kansas City. They also are trying to set up a meeting in Houston, another city trying to attract a National Hockey League team.
At the same time, Mr. Rendell, Mr. Onorato and Mr. Ravenstahl are hoping to meet with all principals, including Mr. Lemieux and Mr. Burkle, possibly tomorrow in Philadelphia, to try to salvage a deal they have described as close to being done.
"This is a priority for us. There's a lot of flexibility in our calendars. We're going to try to get this done," Mr. Onorato said. "Let's get back in a room, find out what triggered the letter. Let's get that resolved and let's close the deal."
Despite the letter declaring an impasse, Mr. Ravenstahl insisted yesterday that the two sides were close to an agreement on funding a new arena. He said the parties need to "sit down, talk about the specifics, find out where we're not in agreement, and go from there."
He said he expected National Hockey League Commissioner Gary Bettman, who has served as a go-between the last two weeks, to be part of any new round of talks.
In Las Vegas, the Penguins are expected to talk with Mayor Oscar Goodman, who first met with National Hockey League officials several years ago in a bid to land a franchise.
The team's arena situation in Las Vegas may not be much better than it is in Pittsburgh. At least initially, the team most likely would play in the 23-year-old Thomas & Mack Center, site of the recent National Basketball Association All-Star Game.
In remarks before the game, NBA Commissioner David Stern said the league would not return to the arena. He said it was "not suitable for future All-Star events" and "not equipped to hold major league events." NBA officials also had complaints about power and lighting capacity.
Mr. Goodman claims to have five groups interested in investing in an arena, but there is no firm timetable for construction or even a deal to get one built. There's also been a continuing concern about locating a professional sports franchise in a city that allows betting on pro sports.
A spokeswoman for Mr. Goodman would not confirm today's meeting with representatives from the Penguins.
In Houston, no meeting has been set up so far. But Patrick Trahan, a spokesman for Mayor Bill White, said the mayor's office has extended an invitation to talk to the team about a possible move "when the time was right."
Officials in Houston have been trying to attract an NHL team to play in the Toyota Center, an arena that opened in 2003 and is home to the NBA Houston Rockets and the Houston Aeros of the American Hockey League.
The frontrunner in a potential relocation is Kansas City, where the $276 million Sprint Center is nearing completion and will be available next season. The Penguins are being offered a deal that includes no rent, no construction costs and a split of building revenues with AEG.
AEG spokesman Michael Roth had no comment on the situation with the Penguins yesterday.
In declaring an impasse Monday, Mr. Lemieux and Mr. Burkle said the team had agreed to put up $4 million a year toward a new arena -- $3.6 million a year in rent and $400,000 a year in funding for capital expenses. The Penguins also are adding $500,000 a year for a new parking garage.
The $4 million is exactly the same as Mr. Rendell asked the team to contribute last year under the proposed Plan B funding formula.
Other major financial elements also appear to be in place -- $7.5 million a year for 30 years from Pittsburgh casino winner Don Barden and $7.5 million annually from a gambling-backed state economic development fund, up $500,000 from the initial Plan B proposal.
Despite that, the two sides have been unable to work out a deal, leading many to wonder exactly what the holdup was. Asked about that, the mayor replied, "Numbers are numbers, and they present numbers perhaps in a different way than we present numbers."
Mr. Ravenstahl would not rule out an appeal to the NHL to block a relocation by the Penguins if the team tried to move. Mr. Rendell made the same point in interviews in Philadelphia yesterday, although a spokesman played down the threat, saying it would be a "last resort kind of thing."
"It's important to emphasize they're still trying to work this thing out," spokesman Chuck Ardo said.
The Penguins have expressed frustration as much with the tone of the talks as the substance.
Sources close to the team indicated one of the final straws came Friday, when the state refused to share interest rate information in a dispute over whether more money is needed in the financing package. They're concerned that the antagonistic tone could carry over if issues arise during construction. The Penguins co-owners said in their letter, "We can do no more."
Mr. Onorato, who said it "truly was a shock" to get Monday's letter, said one reason he wants to meet quickly is to find out exactly what is bothering the team and get it resolved.
He acknowledged there "seems to be a big disconnect" in the way the public officials have viewed the negotiations as opposed to the Penguins.
"There's been so much movement in the last month, I thought it was positive movement," he said.
Mr. Rendell said last week one of the few remaining outstanding issues was how to account for an extra $20 million added as a contingency to a proposed arena bond issue. That increased the amount of the bond issue from $270 million to $290 million.
The Penguins also have a concern about the impact the losers' appeals of the Pittsburgh slots license award will have on funding, although both Mr. Onorato and Mr. Ravenstahl indicated it would not be a major impediment.
Rich Lord contributed to this report. Mark Belko can be reached at firstname.lastname@example.com or 412-263-1262.