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|November 17, 2013, 10:37 PM
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My Galco shoulder holster holds a Glock on one side and 2 extra mags on the other and is very comfortable and quite concealable. Then I throw in a 9mm Shield as a BUG and an extra mag for that.
Doctrine was that you carried at least 2 reloads for your gun. Before I retired I carried significantly more ammo plus an AR with 7 mags on duty.
It is all based on your perception of what is needed based on your experience and training. I would rather have and not need than need and not have. I think it was Teddy Roosevelt who said "Few men will ever need a gun, but those who do will need it very, very, badly".
My rifle and pistol are tools, I am the weapon.
|November 17, 2013, 11:13 PM
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I've always said that it's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
I normally carry 2 loaded mags(7 + 7 = 14), and an extra box(50) somewhere, just in case. There's a lot to be said for comfort of carry, yet it's more comforting knowing that I have some extra ammo stashed somewhere if I need it.
|November 18, 2013, 04:45 AM
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|November 18, 2013, 05:13 AM
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I would add that there is likely a psychological comfort to having 'enough' rounds to 'not enough' for a situation, and that may factor in your strategy and tactic at the moment.
Consider this scenario. Honestly.
You got home from work later than expected, and rushed straight home for personal reasons. You've just finished chores and packing for your road trip. You're just stepping out to gas up the car and get some coffee creamer or other last minute items at midnight so you can get an early start on your road trip the next day. The gas-n-go is just a few miles away off the interstate. The trip should take 15 minutes, but worth it now to beat the rush in the morning.
You pump your gas and pop in to get supplies. As you are in the back of this medium size convenience store, by the coolers, you see a pregnant woman selecting a gallon of milk from the cooler. It's at that time, you hear the door buzzer followed by some commotion; shouting, and the distinct racking of a pump shotgun. You duck down and can clearly see in the convex ceiling mirror AT LEAST two gang looking young men near the front of the store. One has revolver pointed at the cashier who is frantically trying to open the register. The other thug is walking toward the back of the store with the pump shotgun. The woman is whimpering uncontrollably.
You've been in this store before, and you know that the only exit is several isles over and would be near suicidal to attempt, and you'd be leaving this female behind in rushing for it. She's already in a mild panic and would be impossible to make any coordinated effort with this person.
You have about 5 seconds to figure out your plan before you're 'discovered' by the thug with the shotgun. What will happen if you are discovered? Assault and robbery for sure. Maybe your gun will be discovered? Execution? Worse for the woman? What are you going to do? This isn't about being a 'hero,' but this could be about pure survival.
You are carrying a 5 shot .357 magnum snubnose, which you are proficient with. You have no reloads.
Maybe there's a 3rd guy outside? A lookout? Driver?
Do you flee? Fight? Open fire on one of them for surprise? Open fire on both instantly? Beg for your life?
NOW- does your decision change if you have a different firearm? Say a pistol with 20 rounds of 9mm? 15 rounds of .40? Or a pistol with 8 rounds of .45? Do you carry a reload? Do you account for gun malfunctions? Misses? Ineffective hits? How about no gun?
Now, perhaps 5 rounds is 'enough' for this scenario. Perhaps not. But you can easily see how only having 5 shots would definitely influence your decision on your tactics, shot distribution, etc. For instance, if you have only 5 shots, you might only put 2 in the closer thug, keeping the 3 remaining for the longer harder shot. You can't guarantee the shotgun works or is loaded, if you can confiscate it. And a scatter gun may not be the best for this scenario because you could accidently hit the clerk. Your OPTIONS open up if you have say 15 rounds of .40 cal, and another mag of 15 rounds on your hip. You might stop the shotgun threat with several shots, and then move on immediately to the guy at the front of the store with several shots, keeping 5 in the mag, and then do a quick mag change and train on the front door....
So, maybe with only 5 rounds, you decide not to engage and roll the dice with being taken captive vs. going on the offensive with 30 rounds at your disposal.
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|November 18, 2013, 10:10 AM
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Well lead counsel, if it was me going out that late at night for gas, it would be a 6-shot 44 magnum snubby (OWB), a 13-shot 40 cal semi (Shoulder) and a 5-shot 44 spl (Ankle). 24 rds, no reloads.
If the shotgun is about to discover me, I have few good options: the 44 mag comes out first, throws a 3 foot flame (which should discourage even the most ardent Miami crackhead) and I can only hope that the 40-lb bags of kitty litter that I am hiding behind catch the shotgun pellets, and all my shots hit the perps.
How many shots is enough? 20 should do. More is better.
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|November 18, 2013, 01:26 PM
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Shoot the shotgun wielding person and grab his gun?
|November 18, 2013, 02:55 PM
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Well, the simple answer of course, remains that "It depends."
But I will add to leadcounsel's scenario by saying that no one ever thought in the middle of a Bad Day that gosh, it's a good thing I didn't bring more ammunition.
|November 18, 2013, 03:01 PM
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Armchair quarterbacking now?
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|November 18, 2013, 03:12 PM
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Yes, the second assailant may "often" cease and desist. Does one want to bank on that? Consider that for him to do so, he will have to...
I would not bet on it.
|November 18, 2013, 03:29 PM
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How many shots is enough
I think threads on this topic generate more cliches than any other.
Scenarios are meaningless. Inventions of the imagination, created specifically and solely to prove the point of the imaginer.
Prepare for whatever you like. There's always a scenario that your imagination doesn't cover and for which someone who is "more prepared" than you will call you a fool for not recognizing all the while a "less prepared" person will call you paranoid.
Both sides will sling cliches and back at them. A lot of silliness.
|November 18, 2013, 04:24 PM
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We learn from thinking about what you would do from scenarios. Heck, it's how law enforcement and military learn - setting up a scenario and role playing it or acting it out or at least critically thinking about your options.
This isn't a 'far fetched' situation.
There are many scenarios, all common, in which you would be facing multiple armed assailants and only having 1.7, or 5, or even 10 rounds is woefully inadequate.
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|November 18, 2013, 07:09 PM
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How many shots is enough
If I understand Brian correctly, his point is not actually that scenarios are strictly without value. I think he's making a general statement about how they are frequently engineered to support specific notions. That is a fair assessment of the course of these conversations.
I would assume that we would all be in agreement that evaluating or thinking through realistic scenarios can be a valuable practice for learning.
|November 18, 2013, 07:40 PM
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How many shots is enough
Rabbit out of the hat scenarios are pointless and Brian's post is spot on.
Want to see how you'd do in a scenario? Train for it. Even then you're not guaranteed to succeed in it in real time unless you trained for the exact same scenario and are encountering it piece by piece as you trained for it, highly unlikely. Every. Single. Scenario. Is different.
|November 18, 2013, 07:52 PM
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You're sitting on your couch and nothing happens. No gun was needed. I guess zero bullets is the answer.
I never understand why people enter these conversations, and then say that someone else's scenario, a realistic one at that, is without merit...
The scenario presented may never happen to anyone here. But it is designed to make people consider that perhaps carrying a bullet in your pocket like Barney Fife is inadequate.
|November 18, 2013, 08:04 PM
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|November 18, 2013, 08:42 PM
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This shop keeper was lucky to manage to mount a successful defense against 2 armed men (one did not draw) with 5 rounds in a handgun, but he was empty standing there and didn't know it, nor did he have a reload handy.
4 people home invasion with long guns.
A quick internet search will show the speed and violence of attacks.
|November 18, 2013, 09:22 PM
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Scenarios are useless in proving a point because they're imaginary and invented TO prove the point. I can prove any point with an imaginary scenario. This isn't a training question, it's a choice question.
1)I don't carry a gun because 99.5% of Americans will live their lives and die of heart disease, or cancer, and never need a gun.
2)I carry a gun because I might need one.
3)I carry a gun, 3 reloads, a BUG and 3 reloads for it, because I might need them.
4)I carry 2 full-size handguns, 3 BUGS, 3 reloads for each, 2 rifles in my car, 10 loaded mags for each and a shotgun with a case of slugs a case of buck shot and a case of turkey loads, cuz, hey you never know.
Why are scenarios useless? Because I could invent a scenario to justify any of those choices, even one with a conveniently placed damsel in distress, who's pregnant even, that no blue-blooded American boy could abandon. It's irrelevant.
In spite of the protests, it's all about our own perception of the odds. It prompts the cliche; It's the stakes! Not the odds!; to which I say Bull!
The stakes are the same for a whole variety of possibilities that we ignore, including things with much higher odds. This includes the guy who carries no gun, 2 guns, or 12 guns. There are still scenarios I could invent that show how dismally unprepared any of them are, no matter what. There are things that have happened in this country where you'd better be a SEAL Team 6 member AND have your whole dang squad with you. So what? We going to start carrying for that? There's certainly scenarios that can "justify" it.
Mainly, it's a matter of our personal interest. It's not the stakes, it's not the odds, it's interest.
Then we want to justify our choices and everybody who's less prepared is a naive fool and anybody more prepared is a paranoid loon.
Really, it's just personal choice.
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|November 18, 2013, 11:01 PM
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As the O.P. of this thread, I have to agree with Brian Pfleuger. My intent was only curiosity about what others carried and their thought process as to why. I wasn't interested in starting a chest thumping contest for people trying to prove that their school of thought is the only right one.
I was beginning to think that perhaps my choice of a couple of 5 shot 38's and a speedloader or two was getting behind the times. So, I spent Saturday at the range firing about 550 rounds through a couple of borrowed automatics and my 38's. It reminded me pretty quickly of why I chose to carry a snubby all those years ago. Snubbies may not be right for you, but they are what works for me. I may not have enough firepower for every possibility, but I will just have to risk it as I am going to have to stick with what works best for me for the majority of situations.
|November 18, 2013, 11:41 PM
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I carried a 5 shot .38 until I saw John's analysis. That did it for me.
Well, not quite. First, I had to have someone point out to me that my reasoning, which had been based on my assessment that the likelihood that I would ever have to use the gun in the first place was remote at best, was irrelevant. I should have been considering the conditional probability. I should have been assessing what I wanted on hand in the event that I did in fact have to use the firearm.
I then considered the following:
It became a simple risk management problem. Not everyone will come up with the same conclusion. Here are some thoughts:
I'm not trying to substantiate a number; I'm simply trying to explain my thought process.
And that did lead to changing what had been a preconceived notion.
BTW, I carry eight or ten. I would not expect to fire that many, but I do like the idea of a reserve.
|November 18, 2013, 11:54 PM
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My 9mm compact holds 12+1 and my 380 auto holds 6+1. I carry the 9c about 70 percent of the time. Since I've never had to use either I'm not sure how many is enough. I hope I have enough if need though.
|November 19, 2013, 01:10 AM
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|November 19, 2013, 02:18 AM
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I carry 8 in my .45, with a backup mag(8 rd) in my pocket. To me, for EDC, that is enough. Honestly, i doubt i would ever be in a situation where i would have time, or the need to reload. BUT having that extra mag in my back pocket makes me feel a little better.
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|November 19, 2013, 04:48 PM
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I like 15 rounds of 9mm in my Cougar but I'd feel pretty good with 10 or more of anything over .380acp.
That said, my Cougar is often to big to carry so I make do with 8 rounds of .380 in the Bersa Thunder. Not what I consider the ideal solution but I still feel comfortable with that.
It's a decent round, in a reliable gun, that shoots accurately.
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|November 19, 2013, 05:39 PM
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One is enough... 7 or 8 is plenty for me
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Found this on in my Google Reader this morning. The tag says it's from Sportsnet, but it's an AP article.
This one is just too easy. I figured I'd do my duty and create some sub-headlines that might be relevant.
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Ultimate irony: indoor playgrounds in San Diego
For those whose lives are only about fun and games
Eve Kelly 1 p.m., Sept. 20
Last week's announcement that publisher David Copley is looking for someone to buy the Union-Tribune marks the end of an era for San Diego, which has labored under the yoke of the Copley newspapers for 80 years. Until a buyer is confirmed, the destiny of the city remains in the balance, but some loyal U-T readers will no doubt miss the regular Copley sightings that appeared in the U-T. Year by year, the stories describe David Copley's increasingly grandiose obsession with partying, car collecting, and mansion building. An excerpted history:
February 12, 1984: "David Copley drove up with Susan Farrell in a 1936 Cadillac convertible roadster that belonged to the late Jim Copley."
November 3, 1985: "The luggage that came with David Copley's sleek new Aston Martin sports car carries the Aston Martin nameplate. And he took the handsome luggage along on a recent visit to Springfield, Ill. The bellboy who brought the suitcases to Copley's room in the posh new Ramada Renaissance greeted him with a respectful, 'Your luggage, Mr. Martin.' To which Copley countered, graciously: 'You can call me Aston.' "
January 1, 1987: "David Copley wished friends 'a peaceful, laid-back, stressless' season on invitations to his holiday party at his home, 'Foxhole,' in La Jolla.… Sophisticated jazz players performed on a balcony overlooking the pool, and a totally high-tech mood was generated in the garage, which was transformed, with mirrored walls and other mod decor, into an inviting dance setting."
December 19, 1988: "The holiday at home was a warming of David Copley's new pied-a-surf, a glass fronted, cardinal lacquered, marble and steel, art-filled Mission Beach showplace that combines wide-open views with highly stylized privacy.… Guests traipsed up and down the curved glass stairwell, ogling everything and trading assessments — overwhelmingly positive."
April 29, 1999: "Helen Copley and her son, David Copley, president and chief executive officer of The Copley Press, invited newspaper executives from around the country to an art deco dinner-dance that surpassed even the elaborate visions of Metropolis director Fritz Lang. The German filmmaker's futuristic fantasy guided Nevin Kleege and his Advantech Event Management team in transforming a cavernous hangar into a dazzling party venue — a stunning study in black, white, chrome and gray. Gigantic sets copied from the film and built by the San Diego Opera Scenic Studio — the massive facade of a cathedral, a factory's complex machinery — dominated an anteroom that opened into a vast, black-on-black nightclub raked by darting, swirling, dancing lights. (Jack Burnett, one of the production managers, said the party's spectacular effects required 'more lights than they had at the Grammy Awards.').… Pierre Charmasson, another key member of the Kleege team, pointed out that it took more than a square acre of carpet to cover the hangar floor, and that many of the dinner guests were seated in 70 custom-built, tufted, semicircular booths upholstered in matte-black vinyl."
December 7, 1999: "His mother's La Jolla estate is called Foxhill. So when David Copley bought himself a small house 24 years ago, he named it — with a grin — Foxhole. He did a few things: added a second floor, then a pool pavilion, then a new wing, then a second wing as the lots next door became available. Friday, David invited more than 200 guests to experience what he has now made of Foxhole: a 17,000-square-foot mansion."
July 15, 2007: "Happy Days, the 50-meter yacht David Copley has named for the boat that his grandfather, Col. Ira Copley, owned in 1927, was declared winner of the 17th annual ShowBoats International Award as the year's Best Full-Displacement Motor Yacht of its size. Copley and a few of his friends were here for the presentation of the award at the Monte Carlo Sporting Club."
So this dude is already overrun with yachts, exotic cars, estates, and look-how-rich-I-am parties, but he's still looking to add to the coffers by selling the UT? Ugh. Reminds me of a line from another money pig, good old C. Montgomery Burns: "I'd trade it all for a little more."
So would anyone want to trade places with him? Money doesn't buy happiness. Is this how you would want to be remembered?


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Just like last year, sequels are the theme for the summer movie releases. Does that make it a sequel sequel summer?
Follow-up efforts include "Spider-Man 3," "Shrek the Third," "Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End," "Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer," "28 Weeks Later," "Live Free or Die Hard," "The Bourne Ultimatum," "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix" and "Ocean's 13." All will open during the next four months.
There are even a couple of sequels—"Daddy Day Camp" and "Evan Almighty"—that don't include the star of the original movie.
Here is a quick rundown of some of the new films, both originals and sequels, to give you an idea what will be in local theaters through the end of August. Since opening dates often change, you'll want to check the movie listings before heading to theaters.
Spider-Man 3 (May 4): Stars Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunst, James Franco, Thomas Haden Church and Topher Grace.
The 411: The web-spinning hero faces a host of villains and personal problems.
Prediction:It will be a worldwide web of excitement.
Lucky You (May 4): Stars Eric Bana, Drew Barrymore, Debra Messing and Robert Duvall.
The 411: A poker player is more lucky at cards than in love.
Prediction:Bad luck to open against "Spider-Man 3."
28 Weeks Later (May 11): Stars Robert Carlyle, Rose Byrne and Jeremy Renner.
The 411: Six months after a virus devastates England, rebuilding begins. Sequel to "28 Days."
Prediction:Won't be in theaters 28 weeks later.
Georgia Rule (May 11): Stars Jane Fonda, Lindsay Lohan and Felicity Huffman.
The 411: A mother needs help controlling her wild daughter.
Prediction:Will seem like a documentary of Lohan's life.
Shrek the Third (May 18): Voices by Mike Myers, Eddie Murphy and Cameron Diaz.
The 411: The ogre couple prepare for an arrival—a replacement for the king.
Prediction:Everyone will live happily ever after.
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (May 25): Stars Johnny Depp, Orlando Bloom, Keira Knightley and Geoffrey Rush.
The 411: Will Turner and Elizabeth Swann team with Captain Barbossa in a quest to free Captain Jack Sparrow.
Prediction:Yo ho ho and a bank load of money.
Waitress (May 25): Stars Keri Russell, Nathan Fillion and Cheryl Hines.
The 411: A woman is trapped in a life she dreams to escape from.
Prediction:Don't look for a big tip.
Knocked Up (June 1): Stars Katherine Heigl, Seth Rogen and Paul Rudd.
The 411: A romantic comedy about a career woman who looks for help from the man who got her pregnant.
Prediction:Heigl is money in the bank.
Surf's Up (June 8): Voices by Shia LaBeouf, Zooey Deschanel, Jeff Bridges and Jon Heder.
The 411: A computer-generated animated look at the high-octane world of competitive surfing done by penguins.
Prediction:Enough with the penguins.
Ocean's Thirteen (June 8): Stars George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Andy Garcia and Don Cheadle.
The 411: The gang pulls off its most ambitious and risky casino robbery to defend one of its own.
Prediction:Nothing unlucky about this film.
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (June 15): Stars Ioan Gruffudd, Jessica Alba, Chris Evans, Michael Chiklis and Julian McMahon.
The 411: The Fab Four deal with the Silver Surfer, who is preparing Earth for destruction, and Dr. Doom.
Prediction:It can't be worse than the first film.
Nancy Drew (June 15): Stars Emma Roberts, Josh Flitter, Max Thieriot and Rachael Leigh Cook.
The 411: Nancy Drew discovers a long-unsolved case involving a movie star's mysterious death.
Prediction:The film is not clueless.
Evan Almighty (June 22): Stars Steve Carell, Morgan Freeman and Lauren Graham.
The 411: God tells Evan Baxter to build an ark.
Prediction:Steve Carell is no Jim Carrey.
Live Free or Die Hard (June 29): Stars Bruce Willis, Justin Long, Maggie Q and Timothy Olyphant.
The 411: Bruce Willis reprises his role of John McClane, a New York City cop who always finds himself in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Prediction:It will be one of the big bangs of the summer.
Ratatouille (June 29): Voices by Patton Oswalt, Brian Dennehy, Brad Garrett and Peter O'Toole.
The 411: A rat named Remy dreams of becoming a great chef in this computer-generated film.
Prediction:Another successful mouse project for Disney.
Transformers (July 4): Stars Shia LaBeouf, Tyrese Gibson and Josh Duhamel.
The 411: Aliens make Earth their final battleground.
Prediction:Will morph into box office hit.
License to Wed (July 4): Stars Robin Williams, Mandy Moore, John Krasinski and Christine Taylor.
The 411: A couple must pass a reverend's marriage-prep course.
Prediction:It better be love at first sight.
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (July 13): Stars Daniel Radcliffe, Rupert Grint and Emma Watson.
The 411: Harry returns for his fifth year of study at Hogwarts and discovers that much of the wizard community doesn't know the truth about his encounter with Lord Voldemort.
Prediction:Pure magic.
Hairspray (July 20): Stars John Travolta, Michelle Pfeiffer, Christopher Walken and Amanda Bynes.
The 411: Film version of the Broadway musical based on the movie.
Prediction:Will set your toes tapping.
The Simpsons Movie (July 27): Voices by Dan Castellaneta, Julie Kavner, Nancy Cartwright and Yeardley Smith.
The 411: The animated family from Springfield make the leap to the big screen.
Prediction:Will make a lot of d'oh.
No Reservations (July 27): Stars Catherine Zeta-Jones, Aaron Eckhart and Abigail Breslin.
The 411: A no-nonsense chef deals with a brash sous chef in this romantic drama.
Prediction:Romance is a dish best served hot.
Underdog (Aug. 3): Stars Jim Belushi, Peter Dinklage, Patrick Warburton and Jason Lee.
The 411: A canine superhero protects the world. The film is based on the cartoon.
Prediction:There's a need to fear, a real dog is here.
The Bourne Ultimatum (Aug. 3): Stars Matt Damon, Julia Stiles and Joan Allen.
The 411: Jason Bourne is hunted by the people who made him what he is.
Prediction:The third time's a charm.
Bratz (Aug. 10): Stars Nathalia Ramos, Janel Parrish, Logan Browning and Skyler Shaye.
The 411: Popular dolls make the leap to the big screen.
Prediction:Living dolls are for those young at heart.
Rush Hour 3 (Aug. 10): Stars Jackie Chan, Chris Tucker and Hiroyuki Sanada.
The 411: The odd police couple travel to Paris to battle a wing of the Chinese organized crime family.
Prediction:Franchise is slowing down.
Daddy Day Camp (Aug. 10): Stars Cuba Gooding Jr., Lochlyn Munro, Richard Gant and Tamala Jones.
The 411: A sequel to "Daddy Day Care" that does not feature Eddie Murphy.
Prediction:A good alternative to nap time.
Invasion (Aug. 17): Stars Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig.
The 411: A mysterious epidemic alters the behavior of human beings.
Prediction:Prognosis is iffy.
Superdad (Aug. 17): Stars Jonah Hill and Michael Cera.
The 411: A coming-of-age tale about two socially inept teenage boys about to graduate high school.
Prediction:Every summer has a sleeper.
The Brothers Solomon (Aug. 31): Stars Will Arnett, Will Forte, Chi McBride and Kristen Wiig.
The 411: Brothers try to fulfill their dying father's wish to have a grandchild.
Prediction:September is a day away.
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May 19, 2011
|Be sure to make the clip at the last bolt before the anchors early, or don't blow it. Its a nasty fall, torn ligament and tendon in the ankle. It was a fun route though with nice moves at the bouldery start. Have fun, Climb safe.
By John Wilder
From: Las Vegas, NV
Jan 1, 2012
rating: 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b
really enjoyable climb, although shorter folks will appreciate someone else hanging the draws on this one- especially the last one.
also, a stick clip is a good idea for this one.


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Created in 1996 by the nation's governors and corporate leaders, Achieve is an independent, bipartisan, non-profit education reform organization based in Washington, DC, that helps states raise academic standards and graduation requirements, improve assessments, and strengthen accountability. Achieve is leading the effort to make college and career readiness a national priority so that the transition from high school graduation to postsecondary education and careers is seamless. In 2005 Achieve launched the American Diploma Project Network. Starting with 13 original states, the Network has now grown to include 35 states educating nearly 85 percent of all U.S. public school students. Through the ADP Network, governors, state education officials, postsecondary leaders and business executives work together to improve postsecondary preparation by aligning key policies with the demands of college and careers. Achieve partnered with NGA and CCSSO on the Common Core State Standards Initiative and was selected by states to manage the PARCC assessment consortium. The PARCC consortium was awarded Race to the Top assessment funds to create next generation assessments in math and English aligned to the CCSS. Achieve is also managing a state-led process to develop K-12 Next Generation Science Standards based on the National Research Council's Framework for K-12 Science Education. For more information about the work of Achieve, visit www.achieve.org.


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Good Things Come to Those Who Wait
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Hi Judith, Love your new cup as well as the cup with the ivy. I enjoyed seeing all of your lavender items. They are beautiful, just like your favorite flower! I hope you have a good week, Judith.ReplyDelete
Hugs and blessings, Beth
Your lavender collection is lovely. I love the planter cup, perfect for you.ReplyDelete
Loved seeing all the lavender pieces. SOoooo pretty.ReplyDelete
I just put lavender hand cream on!
What beautiful lavender treasures you have, Judith! Your new tea cup is perfect for you!ReplyDelete
Judith, you have many very pretty teacups and mugs in the lavender theme. I love the teapot! Lavender is such a beautiful colour and of course it smells so nice too. I'll be away next week so will miss your tea party and give away. Blessings, PamelaReplyDelete
I love your lavender collection and the new cup and saucer. Now that you mention it, I haven't see a lavender cup and saucer before. I can almost smell the fragrance, Judith! I found myself looking at my lavender plants today and wondering if something could be done with the leaves...ReplyDelete
Hi Judith,ReplyDelete
What a lovely collection of lavender items. Your teapot is so pretty, as well as your teacup and mugs. I'm planning a giveaway next week as Its been a year since I've started blogging. Where has the time went? Have a wonderful week!
Judith, your tea was perfect to chase away the gloomy rain! Each treasure is beautiful and your latest addition is the perfect size for the cold winter that is trying to sneak in and push autumn out before its time.ReplyDelete
Wishing you a fabulous week ahead..xo C. (HHL)
HI Judith,ReplyDelete
I am loving your Lavender post! Each piece you share is so lovely, the color of lavender being so restful. It is perfect for tea time. That planter is totally awesome, and the new tea cup set is wonderful too!
You must be so thrilled to have so many lovely lavender pieces. They look lovely all together.
What a wonderful collection of lavender themed china. As we are in a lavender growing region, there are a lot of choices around here. How fun! I just love your collection! Thanks for linking to Tuesday Cuppa Tea!ReplyDelete
Your blog is so pretty and it reminds me so much of my precious Grandmother. She loved violets, pansies and any other purple flower. Gramma always smelled like violets and Oil of Olay.ReplyDelete
Thank you for stopping by my blog and leaving your kind comment.
You have a beautiful colection of lavender tea accessories, Judith! The new cup and saucer is exquisite1ReplyDelete
Very pretty. I like things with lavender on them also and I especially like that cup and saucer.ReplyDelete
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Beautiful collection of lavender items. ValerieReplyDelete
Good things "do" come to those who wait. Love your lavender collection!ReplyDelete
Judith, you hit the lavender jackpot! The chicken salad with cranberry sauce is making my mouth water. Perhaps I should go have breakfast!!! Happy Tea Day!ReplyDelete
I loved seeing all your lavender pretties!ReplyDelete
You lavender tea cup is lovely! The sandwiches with the cranberry sauce looks delicious. My favorite!ReplyDelete
sandy ;)
Love the Lavender! This is so gorgeous with all these beautiful peices of china with the lavender pattern. The teapot is a treasure since it made the trip safely from Alaska! My favorite is your pretty teacup and saucer but the tea table is just perfect for tea with a friend.Tthe lavender plaid tablecloth accents the lovely tea setting! Great Ideas amd now I'm looking for Lavender tea things!ReplyDelete
Thanks, Pam
What a lovely lavender collection! I love the tea cup planter. So happy you found a tea cup and saucer set with lavender! The chicken salad sandwiches look so delicious! Thanks for sharing, MichelleReplyDelete
Hello Judith,ReplyDelete
I am really running late with my visits this week, sorry. Your lavender teacup is really sweet! The script on it makes it look especially pretty. So glad you found it. You have a very nice collection now with your teapot, mugs, and teabag holder. The planter with the ivy and little birdie is cute too. Thank you for sharing with us and coming to tea. Have a delightful week, my friend.
Love your lavender collection! Very pretty. I'm heading off for a cup of tea now, though it may not be in a lavender cup!ReplyDelete
I love your teacup with lavender. It is ideal as a pot. So much beautiful china you have in your home. Today I touched lavender leaves at my front door. Lovely lavender fragrance spread in the cool autumn air, I wish you a great week! ZinniaReplyDelete
It was certainly worth the waiting, Judith!ReplyDelete
The new tea cup is fabulous and it matches perfectly with the lavender teapot and teabag holder.
Have a great week.
Hi Judith: I love this beautiful post you shared with us today. Lavender is one of my favorites colors. It always gives us such a relaxed feeling. Have a wonderful week. Blessings, MarthaReplyDelete
I love your lavendar teacups and things... .ReplyDelete
a very yummy looking sandwich too.
It's always a joy to pop in here.
Hi Judith,ReplyDelete
What a lovely collection and a very nice find on the new cup!
Lavender is one of my favorite garden plants and seems so useful in many of the things i love, especially for the scent. I use it in decorating, cooking, and sachets for my linens. It is lovely to see there really are dishes & teacups celebrating this plant. Wat a beautiful collection you have. I especially like the teapot.ReplyDelete
Dear Judith,ReplyDelete
All things which are just perfect for you! So pretty and pleasing. They surely belong in Lavender Cottage!
Fondly, Ruthie from: http://www.ladybstimefortea.blogspot.com
Judith! This was so fun to see your lavender collection. That cup is happy in your home that is for sure. There is something soft and calming about lavender - it's scent, color and everything. One of the very best recipes I made was strawberry lavender scones. . . it was out of this world. Wouldn't it be awesome to meet for tea and I could make those for YOU! YAAAA!!!ReplyDelete
How absolutely perfect that Lavender Cottage has such a wonderful collection of lavender teawares. Now why do I suddenly have the urge to go cook with my culinary lavender?ReplyDelete
I have been wanting to make a Lavender Pound Cake - all your lavender items have reminded me Judith!!! What a fun post and thank you for linking to Friends Sharing Tea.ReplyDelete
How marvelous, Judith! So happy you found this - a perfect addition to your lovely lavender collection! I do appreciate you sharing with A Return to Loveliness,ReplyDelete
What a lovely new cup n' saucer, so pretty. Teapot is pretty too. Enjoy your post.ReplyDelete
A darling find, Judith. And set off beautifully on the tartan tablecloth. I love that tartan – not sure which one it is but I'm heading to my tartan books to find out. (Once upon a time I was obsessed with Scotland and tartans – I have quite a nice library of reference books!)ReplyDelete
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soo... for all you ladies out there that are trying to conceive or are already pregnant. how do you plan on telling SO that you are expecting or how did you tell them?
i already know that im going to try and keep the big news in until fathers day. we have 2 boys already so he wont expect a thing. lol

Quoting Jonnie Wells:" soo... for all you ladies out there that are trying to conceive or are already pregnant. how do you plan ... [snip!] ... know that im going to try and keep the big news in until fathers day. we have 2 boys already so he wont expect a thing. lol "

That would be so awesome. I wanna be creative with the next one
He has always been with me when I tested. We are going to start TTC this month, I wont be able to help myself and if I test without him Im going to have to immediately call him. I just cant keep news like that a surprise!
The first time I called him when he was at work and I found out at my moms.
An the second timw I called him while he was at the gym.
I'm a very impatient person lol
We just found out that we are pregnant on the 31st, which was our 5 year anniversary. I had been thinking for a few days that I might be, so I decided to take the test on our anniversary and it was a great present for both of us! Considering our fertility problems with both of us we did not expect to just "pop up pregnant". :D
The first time I sent him a text. The 2nd time I had dd give him the test, and the 3rd time he was with me when I tested.
Happy new year! I'm pregnant lol
I walked into the bathroom when he was showering and said "Hey so I'm pregnant" right after I pee'd on a whole box of tests lol.
When I told my ex, he went with me to get the tests. So I just handed him the positive test.
After work I went to get a test at Walmart, took the test in the bathroom lol then when it came up positive went and bought a baby bottle some yellow ribbon an a cogratulations on the new baby card and took it all home to him lol
For my first I called him when I took the test. The second I waited for him to come home.
my first pregnancy with my daughter it was just a huge explosion with the father i'm with a different man now going on 5 years i was really scared to tell him he never wanted to have kids of his own so i had told my mother and father and brother and of mine and my fiancee closest friends first then i waited till he was settled in after work and sat down and told him he was shocked but in the end he's happy and excited where hoping on a boy this December 26th
We have two boys so I made them both t-shirts that said "big brother" when he came home from work that day he saw them both wearing them and says "are you serious?! We're having a baby?!!" He was really excited and surprised:)
I wouldn't wait to tell them. I feel like something so huge like that shouldn't be left and kept a surprise for the father. I feel like he should know right away...
I have always just handed DH the test, or called him depending on where he was at the time.

Quoting 17 weeks with #3!:" this is a cute idea! lol"

It was hard to keep it from him but I was out of town when I found out and since it was our 3rd I wanted to do something different from before. The previous times I couldn't hold it in and told him within 5 mins of finding out. Lol.


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Our general and administrative expenses ("G&A expenses") increased approximately 18% mainly due to increased consulting and professional service fees related to ongoing discussions with the State Land Board and the City of Aurora and due to fees and expenses that were not capitalized as part of our acquisition of the Sky Ranch property (see below).During the three months ended November 30, 2010, we began expensing interest on a $5.2 million convertible note that we issued in September 2010, which was part of the financing of the Sky Ranch land and water acquisition. Levels of cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities increased as a result of the public stock offering and issuance of the $5.2 million convertible note, which were offset by our acquisition of Sky Ranch. Sky Ranch In October 2010, we completed our acquisition of approximately 940 acres of undeveloped land located in unincorporated Arapahoe County known as Sky Ranch. The acquisition, including fees and expenses, cost approximately $7.5 million. This was paid for using the proceeds from the sale of approximately 1.8 million shares of our common stock and the issuance of a $5.2 million convertible note. Funds not utilized for the acquisition are being used for general corporate working capital purposes. This acquisition is explained in further detail in our Form 10-Q filed with the SEC on or about January 7, 2011 and on our website at www.purecyclewater.com . Consistent with prior years, management hosts earnings calls reviewing mid-year and year end results. Our next earnings call will be hosted after the release of our second quarter results – anticipated to be in April 2011. We have posted a detailed slide presentation which overviews the Company and presents summary financial results on our website which can be accessed at www.purecyclewater.com . The Company will be holding its annual shareholders' meeting on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 at 2PM Mountain. The meeting will be held at the offices of Davis, Graham & Stubbs, LLP, at 1550 17 th Street, Suite 500, Denver, CO 80202. Additional details can be found on our website. Company Information Pure Cycle owns water assets in several river basins in the State of Colorado as well as certain aquifers in the Denver, Colorado metropolitan area. Pure Cycle provides water and wastewater services to customers located in the Denver metropolitan area including the design, construction, operation and maintenance of water and wastewater systems.
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Media 'effects'
This page is about the idea of straightforward media 'effects' - the idea that people will simply copy things they've seen in the media. For material on more subtle media influences see the role models and identity sections.
The whole problem with the media effects research is that it takes place in that depressing corner of 'communications' research which places more value on a veneer of 'scientific' method than it does on actually saying anything.
If these 'scientific' approaches were appropriate and found interesting things, that would be good. But they usually aren't, and don't. This is made worse by the fact that rubbish methodology seems to be very popular. See the Journal of Communication for some classic examples.
My book Moving Experiences (1995) was meant to be an exposé of how surprisingly bad the research on media effects is.
This argument got a mixed reception from the British press.
The main argument of Moving Experiences is distilled in the article Ten Things Wrong With the 'Effects Model', the full text of which appears here.
You can also read the full text of the article 'Ruination once again' - Cases in the study of media effects by Tom Gormley.


text: Yoder performing with Camerata SingersBLUFFTON Anne Yoder, daughter of Mahlon and Arlene Yoder of Baltic, is a member of the Camerata Singers at Bluffton University for the 2004-05 academic year. Yoder, a first-year student at Bluffton, is a graduate of Hiland High School and is a member of Millersburg Mennonite Church.Camerata Singers is a select choir that performs primarily sacred music both on and off campus. The group takes an extended tour during spring break. One of the highlights of this year's tour will be presenting their program at the Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove, Calif. They will also be performing at Mennonite churches and alumni and friends gatherings in California.Hubacher in fall musicalBEREA Andrew Hubacher of Smithville will play Whizzer in "March of the Falsettos," a part of this year's fall musical, "The Falsetto Trilogy," at Baldwin-Wallace College.The three one-acts, "In Trousers," "March of the Falsettos" and "Falsettoland," are currently being performed in the Kleist Center for Art and Drama.Hubacher is a junior musical theater major in B-W's Conservatory of Music and is a member of the college choir. In the past, he has performed in B-W's "Susannah" and "The Three Sisters."He is the son of Jon and Sara Hubacher and graduated from Smithville High School in 2002.Finn to direct Bluffton fall productionBLUFFTON Bluffton University will present "A Night of One-Acts" as its fall theater production on Nov. 18-20 at 7:30 p.m. and Nov. 21 at 3 p.m. in Ramseyer Auditorium.The one-act plays are being directed by junior Jaclyn Finn of Shreve. Cast members include junior Kevin Bicker of Wooster.Members of AU's marching bandASHLAND Members of the marching band at Ashland University include: Jennifer Kauffman, daughter of Jeffrey D. and Nancy L. Kauffman of Wooster; Kathleen Miller, daughter of Emil E. and Suzanne M. Miller of Wooster; Megan Routh, daughter of Joseph and Linda Routh of Orrville; Jaymie Shaffer-Schwartz, daughter of Gary L. and Sherry K. Shafer-Schwartz of Millersburg; Kevin Taylor, son of Steven and Gail Taylor of Perrysville; and Jack Weber, son of Timothy and Sue Weber of Orrville.The marching band performs at all home football games, Season Finale Concert and at community and campus events. The 75-member ensemble performs under the direction of Leonard Salvo, associate professor of music.


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London, October 14 (ANI): Abbey Clancy took tips for her 'Strictly Come Dancing' performance by the show's former winner Harry Judd.
The 27-year-old wife of footballer Peter Crouch and her partner Aljaz Skorjanec, who topped the leader board in the first week of this year's series, took tips from Judd while working with him on ITV's This Morning, the Daily Star reported.
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On some level though, I'm a little worried about learning too much about the "techniques" of writing, because I don't want it to ruin the free- for- all of my reading. I mean, Hubbo colors comic books for a living and he is all the time ruining things by talking about the usage of colors and shadowing and blah blah blah. I'm crazy enough without getting too stuck the the technical aspects of writing.... so why sign up for a workshop, you might ask..
Actually, it's mostly because I like getting together with people and talking about stuff that I like, like books and writing and what not. But also, I'm trying to make a larger space for writing in my life... hence this blog... hence this workshop.
I missed the second week, by the way. Because my kid was sick and "needed" me. Cute, right? She's 18.
Some notes about: starting a journal and the workshop to come back and pick up later:
- sticking with it - yet another journal with two completed pages
- getting in touch - feelings, time, a craft
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- making fun of people - can be done in all formats!
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A magnitude 7.5 earthquake off the coast of Alaska generated a tsunami warning at midnight this morning, now canceled, of significant expected widespread inundation and dangerous coastal flooding.
By 1:17 a.m. local time that warning was canceled.
Water level reached a half a foot above tide level at Port Alexander and 0.3 feet at Sitka, Ak.
The 7.5 magnitude earthquake occurred 6 miles deep along a strike-slip fault between the Pacific plate and the North American plate which are slipping past each other at about a rate of 2 inches a year.
The USGS reported that the earthquake was "likely associated with relative motion across the Queen Charlotte fault system offshore of British Columbia, Canada."


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|YDS: 5.10d French: 6b+ Ewbanks: 21 UIAA: VII+ ZA: 21 British: E3 5b [details]
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By Bob Archbold
Aug 7, 2002
|This route was first climbed by Vern Phinney. It got it's name fom when the rope tied to Vern came untied and fell to the ground. This happened when Vern was pulling through the crux. So Vern soloed the crux, got above it and through som contortions had the rope tossed to him to finish the route.
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Actually that is not the correct story. I was belaying Vern on the climb. Vern's rope came untied (bowline) and fell off when he was in the middle of the crux, with a bolt slighly below his waist. He grabbed the sling and clipped in. I tossed him the rope from the gully to the left of the climb, and he lowered off. I went up and after a couple of falls, finished the route.
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If you're looking for something to fill that Ed-shaped hole in your life, then look no further people - he's popped up at a wedding in Northern Ireland!
The singer has jumped on to stage with Snow Patrol's Johnny McDaid to celebrate Johnny's younger sister's wedding day.
Ed Sheeran Performs At A Wedding
"Blew bride away"...
The manager of Beech Hill Country House Hotel, the venue for the wedding, said: "We enjoyed a wonderful day to celebrate the beautiful garden wedding of the happy couple, Brid and Sandy.
"The sun was out in force and so were the stars who wowed the guests with their talent and crowned off what was a fantastic wedding celebration. The wedding guests were treated to very special performance which was fitting for such a great occasion."
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Not that we're jealous or anything but just imagine being at a wedding and then all of a sudden Ed bloody Sheeran cracks out the guitar!
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If you read my first blog post, My top Ten Gamecube Games , then you are aware that i absolutely love the game Star Fox Assault for the nintendo gamecube. Now i am making a summary of the weapons in this game. i will rate each weapon 1-10 (1 being the lowest) on how good it is IMO.
Blaster; This is the weapon that you always start out with. It has infinite ammo an can fire at a pretty decent rate. The killer feature of this weapon is the charge. you can charge this gun by holding down the fire button, and after a few seconds you will have a massive laser blast that will take down about half of the enemies health. I give it a 5/10.
Rocket Launcher; This Gun has 10 shots when found, and you can hold up to 99 shells. This gun has a homing feature on it that will track down enemy infantry and vehicles. Unlike the rocket launcher in games like halo, this is not a weapon where you fire a shot and get a kill if the shell is within a few feet of your target. The shells will take down only a decent amount of your enemies health. If your enemy has a machine gun, then you only stand an ok chance in the fight. Your enemies can also dodge these shells if they are quick enough. There is literally no splash damage, so i find this weapon most effective in close range bouts. 7/10.
Missile Launcher;This is one of the sweetest weapons i have ever come across in my life as a gamer. Basically, when you launch a missile, it places you in control of a missile, and you fly it around looking for an enemy to kill. This weapon initially comes with three missiles, and you can hold up to five. this weapon does great damage to anything it lands near, and you can detonate it at any time by pressing the a button. The only problem is that you are vulnerable when using this weapon. When you re attacked, you either hit yourself with the missile like suicide bomber and hopefully take out your attacker as well, or you can detonate the missile and try to win in close range combat. i give it a 9/10.
Sniper Rifle;In my eys, this gun is a letdown. probably because i never really grasped the concept of sniping until i played halo, and by then i was not going to change my strategy in Star fox assault. Still, whenever i get my hand on one of these, i have a lot of trouble with it even tough it does crazy damage. i find it to hard to aim, and you cannot shoot this thing when not using the scope. What the heck is up with that? This gun gives you 10 shots, and you can hold up to 99 bullets. 3/10 because it is impossible to use.
Machine Gun; this gun has 200 bullets when you find it, and holds up to 999. It has an insane rate of fire and will take down anyone in a jiffy. it does good damage to whatever it hits. Not much to say, everyone knows what machine gun is, right? 7/10
Gattling Gun;Take a machine gun and put it on steroids. the result is a gattling gun. this baby shoots more bullets in less time that the machine gun, and it only takes like 8 bullets to get a kill. it has 100 bullets when found, and holds up to 999. It does crazy damage to infantry and vehicles. the only downside is that it goes through its clip pretty fast. 9/10
Grenades;I love the grenades in this game. You can hold up to 20 i think, and you get 5 at a timr. they take a while to go off, but you can offset that by holding on to them for just the right amount of time, and throwing them so they blow right by your target. I've always gotten lucky with these things, and i am always sure to pick them up. they are best used for throwing them into a tight space that someone is hiding in. 8/10
Sensor bombs; These are pretty self explanatory. you put them on the ground, and if anyone steps on them then they blow up, doing massive damage to the target. They have a red glow when place on the ground, so put them in a vibrant area. there are plenty of bright places in this game that will camoflauge them perfectly. they can be set off by lasers hitting them, and only pure ignorance will cause someone to walk into an uncloaked sensor bomb. 6/10
Fireburst pods;if you read my old blog posts, then you might have read a referance to a barrel that makes it rain grenades. this is that weapn. place it on the ground and it a few seconds it will send a prett rainbow of colors into the sky. a few seconds later grenades will come down, and they will all blow up, meaning instant death to anyone nearby. you can hold 1 at a time, and the odds of killing someone with these arent to great. these are better used to lead your opponent to you, or to scare off a pursuer. 8/10
Predator rockets;me and my friend didnt learnwhat these things do for a while. when you place them, they wil stay on the ground and pont in the sky. On the day we learned what they do, someone flew an arwing (the aircraft of the game) above one, and the rocket flew off the ground and gave chase. they do great damage and are a good way to control the skies. 8/10
Demon Launcher; This is a noob gun. when you are down 2-0 in a 3 live match, you will respawn with one of these. they take down vehicles with one hit, and take down shields as well as infantry wth one hit. the gun gives you 3 shots. enough to win the game if your opponent doesnt know what they are doing. the only way to counter this homing weapon is to put on barriers that will force your opponent to waste a shot on the barrier. even if the gun is noobish, i still have to gve it 10/10. i can proudly say i have never been given one of these.
Demon Sniper;i dont even know what this gun is, since i havent unlocked it. i do know that is basically a super powerful sniper rifle. if i knew what it wa, i would pobablygive it around an 8/10.
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Hamlin: 'Unproductive' text exchange with Logano
March 27, 2013, Staff report, NASCAR.com
In the days since the accident that left him with a fractured vertebra, Denny Hamlin has received text messages from both on-track rival Joey Logano and Roger Penske, the owner of Logano's No. 22 car. Logano also addressed Hamlin on Twitter, tweeting "Wish @dennyhamlin a speedy recovery. Hope he gets back to the track soon. And thanks to all of my fans for their support."
Hamlin acknowledged the texts he exchanged with Logano in an interview with The Associated Press. "It didn't go well," Hamlin said. "The conversation was both short and unproductive."
Contact with Logano on the final lap Sunday sent Hamlin's car sliding down into an inside wall not covered by the SAFER barrier, and the Joe Gibbs Racing driver was airlifted to a Southern California hospital. He was diagnosed with a compression fracture in his L1 vertebra, and on Tuesday the team announced that Hamlin would require six weeks to recover.
"I've texted back and forth with him and said that we're thinking about him," Penske told The Associated Press in Humble, Texas, where he and Logano were both participating in Wednesday's Shell Houston Open Pro-Am golf tournament. "Obviously, we're hoping for a speedy recovery."
In a conference call with reporters on Thursday, JGR President J.D. Gibbs said he had not spoken to Logano, but had talked with Penske. "I'll probably keep that conversation private, just between the two of us," Gibbs said. "But obviously, he was concerned for Denny."
Sunday's incident was the latest chapter in an ongoing feud between the drivers that included shots exchanged over social media earlier in the season, and contact a week earlier at the Bristol short track that left Logano spinning into the wall. The two were battling for the victory on the final lap at Fontana when they made contact, sending Hamlin's car down into the inside wall and allowing third-place runner Kyle Busch to win the race.
Hamlin was examined Tuesday by Charlotte-area neurologist and spinal specialist Dr. Jerry Petty, who determined that the driver would not need surgery but would have to be out of the car for at least six weeks. NASCAR takes this weekend off, and the Sprint Cup Series returns to action May 7 on the short track at Martinsville. If Hamlin keeps to his recovery timetable, he would miss five races and return May 11 at Darlington.
Penske told the AP Wednesday that he was unsure what Hamlin and Logano said to one another in their text messages. He also did not believe the contact on the race track Sunday was retaliatory. Sprint Cup director John Darby said Tuesday that experts would likely examine the wall Hamlin hit to see if changes need to be made.
"These guys are racing hard, and it's the last lap and it's just the way the cars got together," Penske said. "The way Denny hit the wall was very unfortunate. … It's never good to have a driver out for a period of time."
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STOURBRIDGE Theatre Company is hoping its forthcoming production of Calendar Girls will raise £10,000 for research into blood cancers.
The company is believed to be the only one in the country to have pledged to donate its entire profits from the staging of the show to Leukaemia and Lymphoma Research.
The charity that has become synonymous with the original, real-life Calendar Girls – a group of WI friends from Yorkshire who revealed all for a nude fundraising calendar in 1999.
Leukaemia and Lymphoma Research regional manager Philippa Jones said: "It is fantastic to see the fundraising legacy of the Calendar Girls live on through the work of amateur theatre companies such as Stourbridge Theatre Company."
She thanked the company for its pledge, adding: "We hope to raise in excess of £10,000 to continue our research which focuses on finding causes, improving diagnosis and treatments, and running ground-breaking clinical trials for all blood cancer patients."
Stourbridge Theatre Company chairman Tim French said: "We felt that it was only right that the profits should be given to Leukaemia and Lymphoma Research to help in some small way with their continuing research into this dreadful disease.
"We are pleased with the support we are receiving. Tickets are still available but they are selling fast."
The play is based on the poignant true life story of a group of friends from Yorkshire's Rylstone and District WI who raised millions of pounds for the charity through the success of their nude calendar – which attracted national press attention and became the inspiration for a 2003 blockbuster film starring Helen Mirren and Julie Walters.
The show, which will be one of the first amateur productions of Calendar Girls in the region, will run at Stourbridge Town Hall from Thursday November 22 to Saturday November 24 from 7.30pm each night. There will also be a 2.30pm matinee show on Saturday.
Society spokeswoman Barbara French said the revealing scenes in the production will be "very, very tastefully done".
"The cast will all be covered up by cake and things related to the WI," she added.
For ticket availability visit website stourbridgetheatrecompany.org.uk, call Dudley Council Plus on 01384 812812 or call into The French Deli, 1 Coventry Street, Stourbridge.


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Rooney fights for elderly justice in Washington, D.C.
Movie veteran Mickey Rooney is leading the charge against elderly abuse after urging leading U.S. politicians to create new laws that protect the aged from greedy family members and supposed carers.
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Rooney appeared before a Senate committee in Washington, D.C. on Wednesday and urged the politicians to do what they could to make sure other elderly Americans don't suffer the same fate he claims he has faced at the hands of his family members.
Rooney, 90, told the committee he felt "scared, disappointed ... and angry" when one member of his family took control of his personal and financial affairs.
He said, "You can't believe that it's happening to you. For years I suffered silently. I didn't want to tell anybody. I couldn't muster the courage and you have to have courage. I needed help and I knew I needed it. Even when I tried to speak up, I was told to shut up and be quiet."
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Rooney has filed a restraining order against his stepson Christopher Aber and his wife, claiming they abused him emotionally and financially.
The actor called for Congress to pass a law that makes chronic elderly abuse a specific crime.
Fighting back tears, the film legend said, "I'm asking you to stop this elderly abuse. I mean to stop it. Now. Not tomorrow, not next month, but now."
And it appears Rooney's plea has been heard loud and clear by the Senate - after the hearing, committee chairman Sen. Herb Kohl introduced legislation that would create an Office of Elder Justice help co-ordinate law enforcement response to chronic elder abuse.
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$110 Million for Transit Projects Proposed
Thursday, November 1, 2007
This year's ballot asks voters whether Fairfax County should float $110 million in bonds to build or improve parts of the county's transportation network.
Bob Chase, president of the Northern Virginia Transportation Alliance, urged the bonds' passage, calling them a modest but important investment in the economy. Putting off improvements would cost more over time, he said, and roads are so clogged now that traffic is a drag on the economy.
"Perhaps the one commodity that's irreplaceable is people's time," Chase said.
Stewart Schwartz, executive director of the Coalition for Smarter Growth, said he welcomed more money for mass transit and improving travel for pedestrians and bicycles. He cautioned against widening roads to the point where they become unsafe for pedestrians and bicyclists or divide neighborhoods. He said the county should not rely solely on road improvements to solve transportation problems and focus more on planning.
"Overall, we think it's a good package," Schwartz said.
If approved, the biggest chunk, $71.25 million, would be for roads. That includes $55 million for major projects, such as widening Stringfellow Road from two to four lanes, relocating the Cinder Bed and Newington roads intersection, and widening parts of Lorton Road, Lee Highway and Poplar Tree Road. An additional $8.5 million would help alleviate traffic caused by a shift of jobs to Fort Belvoir ordered by the Base Realignment and Closure Commission.
The bond would fund $7.75 million for minor road projects. Those are, among others, fixing Braddock Road, including at Backlick Road and the entrance to Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology; adding turn lanes on Shirley Gate Road at Route 29 and on Towlston Road at Leesburg Pike; modifying the Fairfax County Parkway to give it a third southbound lane between Lee Highway and Braddock Road; and expanding bike lanes on Gallows Road and nearby roadways.
The bond measure would also raise $16 million in transit spending. Those funds would be for building two bus transit centers at George Mason University and Northern Virginia Community College, installing a staircase at the Vienna/Fairfax-GMU Metro station, renovating the Fairfax Connector bus facility in Herndon and expanding the Stringfellow Road park-and-ride lot from 385 to about 700 spaces.
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Strengthening ties with the U.S., Japan's main ally, is the central plank of a "lost" policy speech by Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, in which he sets out his principles of diplomacy.
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The premier was set to unveil his so-called "Abe doctrine" last Friday in Jakarta on the final leg of his three-nation tour of Southeast Asia. But the speech was never delivered as Mr. Abe cut short his trip, returning to Japan to deal with an international hostage crisis in Algeria that has seen at least seven Japanese nationals killed.
Amid ongoing tension with China over a territorial dispute, the text of the speech, titled "The Bounty of the Open Seas: Five New Principles for Japanese Diplomacy," makes clear Mr. Abe's interest in bolstering Japan's ties with the U.S. Mr. Abe and his Liberal Democratic Party have repeatedly said that Japan-U.S. relations deteriorated under the watch of the previous Democratic Party of Japan-led government.
"America is the world's greatest naval power and preeminent economic superpower; Japan is Asia's largest maritime democracy and a liberal capitalist state second only to the United States. It stands to reason that our two nations should be partners," reads the speech's English translation, available on a government web site.
The speech goes on to say that the importance of the Japan-U.S. alliance has "a more vital significance as ever before," as the U.S. shifts its strategic focus toward the Indian and Pacific oceans.
While the speech refrains from specifically naming China, its numerous calls for the region's sea lanes to be governed by international law, not force, reflect Tokyo's increasing concern over Beijing's rising military and commercial clout in a region rich in oil, natural gas, minerals and fishing.
The strong focus on boosting ties with Washington also stands in contrast to a policy speech Mr. Abe gave in Indonesia six years ago, when he was last prime minister.
That speech, delivered on Aug. 20 2007, less than a month before his resignation amid a string of scandals and his own deteriorating health, was titled "Japan and One ASEAN that Care and Share at the Heart of Dynamic Asia." In it, he never even mentioned the U.S.
Reflecting a strong desire to demonstrate Tokyo's rediscovered fondness for Washington, the U.S. was Mr. Abe's choice as his first overseas destination after taking office last month. But his trip was postponed due to President Barack Obama's tight schedule. Mr. Abe will instead travel to the U.S. in mid-February for a bilateral summit.
Mr. Abe's three-day trip saw him speaking to leaders in Vietnam, Thailand and Indonesia as part of Tokyo's efforts to shore up its economic and diplomatic presence in the fast-growing region and enhance security ties with Southeast Asian nations that face territorial disputes with China over islands in the South China Sea. Tensions between Japan and China also remain high over disputed islands in the East China Sea known as the Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China.
"From now on the Japan-U.S. alliance must effect a network, broad enough to ensure safety and prosperity encompassing the two oceans. The ties between Japan and America's other allies and partners will become more important than ever before for Japan," the latest speech says.
Mr. Abe expressed a similar view in a recent essay, calling for the formation of an "Asian security diamond" that enables India, Australia, the U.S. state of Hawaii and Japan to work together to ensure maritime safety in the Indian and Pacific Oceans.
The latest speech, as expected, drew strong criticism from China. Beijing slammed the policy principles as "attempts to pull in the Southeast Asian countries and to encircle China," in a commentary in the Communist party's mouthpiece People's Daily newspaper.
"Sadly, this whimsical idea has no market in Southeast Asia," it said.


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Under present legislation, if someone needs to go into a Nursing Home, the value of their property will be assessed to see if that person qualifies for state assistance.
However, the state will 'disregard' the value of your property and hence it won't be counted if any of the following applies:
Therefore, if you were to move in permanently with your Mother, then her property would be disregarded!
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Many thanks for your answer, which is very interesting!
I may not want to move at the moment, so if I did move in at the point when my mother required residential care, would this count as "continuing to live" in the property or would I need to have lived there for a certain period?
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The Council would see it as a scam if you were to happen to "move in" shortly before your Mother went into a Home.
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'Spending time with friends or family, listening to music or admiring a beautiful view can all help to boost our mood, no matter what our personal circumstances.'
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By Megan Hopps
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The Dayton City Council approved amendments to various city ordinances regarding the Mississippi River Corridor, natural screening, and tree preservation as it relates to new developments in Dayton. The council also approved the preliminary and final plat of French Lake Meadows and entered a joint powers agreement with the city of Champlin regarding the maintenance of Goose Lake Road.
Zoning Ordinance
City staff prepared updates to three ordinances pertaining to the Mississippi River Corridor, landscaping and screening and tree preservation and replacement.
The changes to the Mississippi River Corridor ordinance mostly dealt with the language used in city documents. In summer 2012 city staff prepared updates to the ordinance based on legislation that was passed removing reference to Wild and Scenic Rivers Act. This ordinance amendment was approved by the planning commission and city council and is required to be reviewed and approved by the DNR.
The reference to the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act was removed, an addition of minimum lot size requirements was added as well as an introduction of new zoning districts within the area. Staff forwarded these changes to the DNR where staff requested further changes. After making these changes, the city has accepted the changes to this ordinance.
The old language in the city ordinance regarding landscaping and screening states there must be a "reasonable attempt" to preserve trees during a development project. The council worked to clarify this language. It now provides a list of species of trees that should not be included in landscaping plans, particularly invasive species. This amendment now requires all new underground sprinkler systems to include rain sensors, and includes requirements for screening and buffering on non-residential uses that border residential developments.
The changes to the ordinance pertaining to tree preservation and replacement include a removal threshold. The current ordinance requires all significant trees to be preserved or replaced; however, development calls for tree removal. The city is placing regulations on the amount of trees that can be removed. Staff has amended the ordinance so that developers can only remove up to 30 percent of the total inches of significant trees. Any removal beyond that will require reforestation. In non residential districts, 50 percent may be removed.
This only includes significant trees, not invasive species of trees. Planning commission reviewed these changes and suggested that "significant trees" does not include coniferous trees as these are difficult to preserve with development and a better solution is to plant new species.
The ordinance was passed without the planning commissions changes.
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• AT&T would like to collocate another antenna to an existing tower on Fernbrook Lane.
• The city approved the preliminary and final plat of French Lake Meadows, six new homes located in southwest Dayton near French Lake.
• The city of Dayton entered into a joint powers agreement with the city of Champlin regarding street maintenance of Goose Lake Road.
• The city is currently looking for a seasonal public works employee to assist in Public Works duties such as mowing and park maintenance.
• Dayton resident Elsie Stephens has died. The city owns a portion of her farm and it will be developed as a park in her honor.
• The Dayton fire fighters dance is Saturday, April 26, at Daytona Country Club.
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