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By Anonymous Coward
Mar 25, 2002
|Yeah check out the drilled pockets. Those things are hella sweet bro! Go get em'!!!
By Anonymous Coward
Jul 9, 2002
|I thought the three routes mentioned were too hard for me, so I drilled a couple of holes for my fingers to pull the moves. Wow! Now that I can climb that hard stuff I feel pretty cool. The routes felt that the grades that were posted didnt change even with my new holds. I think i am going to bring my chizel and make a couple side pulls too. It looks like we can squeeze in some more lines in this cool looking cave.BAD ASS
By Anonymous Coward
Oct 10, 2002
|Jeremy, I believe the previous AC was being sarcastic and was appalled as you are at chipped routes.
By Ben Scott
From: Fort Collins, CO
Apr 28, 2009
|This is the worst bolted cliff in the canyon. Don't waste your time.
By Matt Bolt
From: Lakewood
May 3, 2009
|There are a few established routes on the rock above the Sex Cave (one sport route that I found for sure). However, there are two sick splitter cracks in two separate right-facing dihedrals in the same area. I went up there to check them out today and one of them could possible be the best moderate crack in Clear Creek (off to thin hands). My question is, does anyone know if they have been climbed? The one I looked at closly was pretty dirty and definitely hasn't seen an ascent in the recent past. I plan on getting up there in the next week or so and sending them on gear, I was just wondering if it had been done before.
By Darren Mabe
From: Flagstaff, AZ
May 4, 2009
Near Pete's Wicked Sex cave is Rebel Wall.
Sex Cave and Primo are very far apart.
By Matt Bolt
From: Lakewood
May 5, 2009
|So, my gumby nature is showing. By Sex Cave, what I meant was "NOMAD'S CAVE". Goes to show how often I tie in at crags with 12c/d warmups. However, if you look directly above the Nomad's Cave from the road, there are two distinct dihedrals. I'll try to post some photos on the Nomad page as soon as I get back up there.
By Darren Mabe
From: Flagstaff, AZ
May 5, 2009
|I knew what you were talking about Matt, just checkin'. Was the sport route you were lookin at Mildage? this area of rock is a little sketch getting to from the left of the Primo warmups (above Nomad Cave). Have fun with your new route exploring and let us know how they turn out! Post pics!
By J. Albers
From: Colorado
Sep 12, 2010
So, are the routes here all chipped/drilled? When I look at the route descriptions, there is no mention of chipping/drilling. Just curious because I am considerably less interested in climbing manufactured rock. Thanks in advance.
EDIT: Thanks, Peter and Pinkle.
By Peter Beal
From: Boulder Colorado
Sep 14, 2010
|@J Albers, the only actually chipped route is Stone Cold Modern. Rubble is not, nor is Head Like a Hole.
By Pinklebear
Sep 14, 2010
|What Peter said. Only two holds as I can recall are chipped on Stone Cold Modern: a couple of pockets at the beginning. Or maybe just one pocket? Sorry; it's been 19 years since I last did the routes here.
By Tank Evans
Jul 6, 2013
|This area totally blows, even by CCC standards. It is a shit filled (literally) hole in the ground that has 1 star, or no star manufactured routes. Be advised.


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|September 29, 2011, 06:40 PM
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an ffl transfer is roughly 25 dollars and takes a half hour
just do it
|September 29, 2011, 06:59 PM
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I hate to rain on parades, but I think that "loan" business has been tried and didn't work. The law says "transfer", and a permanent "loan" is a transfer. That does not mean that if you are in another state and have legally brought your gun along, that you can't let someone use it. But if you leave to go home, leaving him the gun, I think that would be seen as a transfer, since he would then have full and complete control of the gun.
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|September 29, 2011, 07:41 PM
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I would...
contact local law enforcement
contact a local gun dealer
contact a local attorney.
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|September 29, 2011, 07:59 PM
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You posted this question yesterday here. Didn't you like that answers you got? Well, it's still the same answer.
Find a local FFL who will do the transfer. Then your father, or an FFL on his behalf, can then send the gun to your transfer FFL who will transfer the gun. It would be legal for the your father to send the gun directly to the transfer FFL, but some FFLs will not, as a matter of business practice, accept a gun for transfer directly from an individual. If your father brings the gun down, you can both visit the FFL together to do the transfer there.
The transfer FFL will transfer the gun to you with all normal formalities, i. e., completion of a 4473 and satisfaction of any state law requirements in your State of residence.
[1] Under federal law, any transfer (with a few, narrow exceptions, e. g., by bequest under a will) from a resident of one State to a resident of another must be through an FFL.
[2] In the case of handguns, it must be an FFL in the transferee's State of residence. You may obtain a handgun in a State other than your State of residence, BUT it must be shipped by the transferor to an FFL in your State of residence to transfer the handgun to you.
[3] In the case of long guns, it may be any FFL as long as (1) the long gun is legal in the transferee's State of residence; and (2) the transfer is in compliance with the laws of the State in which it takes place; and (3) the transfer complied with the law of the transferee's State of residence.
[4] In connection with the transfer of a long gun, some FFLs will not want to handle the transfer to a resident of another State, because they may be uncertain about the laws of that State. And if the transferee resides in some States (e. g., California), the laws of the State may be such that an out-of-state FFL will not be able to conduct a transfer that complies.
[5] There are no exceptions under the applicable federal laws for gifts, whether between relatives or otherwise, nor is there any exception for transactions between relatives.
[6] The relevant federal laws may be found at: 18 USC 922(a)(3); 18 USC 922(a)(5); and 18 USC 922(b)(3).
|September 29, 2011, 08:14 PM
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Since it is a state to state transfer, you must go through a FFL in NC and since it is NC you will need to apply to the local sheriff for a purchase permit.
|September 29, 2011, 08:49 PM
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The BATFE has a very narrow view of what constitutes "sporting." In fact, cowboy action shooting and IPSC/IDPA type practical shooting, last time I read up on it, were NOT included. So what they're basically talking about is high power rifle, traditional bullseye, trap and skeet, and hunting. And my guess as to what temporary means is something akin to, "Gee, I'm sorry the firing pin on your SuperBlaster X5 broke, but you can borrow my spare SuperBlaster X3 to finish the match."
NOT "Keep it as long as you want."
|September 29, 2011, 08:57 PM
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If you are eleigible to legaly own a handgun, then your grampa can transport the gun to a dealer near you. You pay the dealer, and fill out the yellow form. It takes about 5 minutes. The dealer then checks to assure you filled it out correctly with all of the necessary information. He makes a phone call forhe NICS check. If approved he transfers the gun to you. You take it home and it is yours legaly.
No matter how many times you do it and nothing happens it only takes something going wrong one time to kill you.
|September 29, 2011, 09:26 PM
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Threads merged. There may be duplicate answers in the combined thread.
.40 to go - please do not create a duplicate thread on the same subject even if they are in different forums.
The Law forum is the correct one for this particular question.
Note to all - some here are advocating or advising the commission of a felony. Whether that advice is willful or through ignorance of the law is immaterial. If you do not know the legal answer to a question as important as the one asked, your best course of action is to remain silent.
|September 29, 2011, 09:32 PM
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(The exception for loans is found in 18 USC 922(a)(5). It would allow you to loan a gun temporarily to someone visiting you from another State for some sporting purpose, e. g., target shooting, competition or hunting.)
|September 29, 2011, 09:36 PM
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Have Grandpa put it in his will and bequeath it to you. Eventually the gun will go to you (unless you die first) and you can drive down and pick it up. No transfer necessary. Meanwhile...
If Grandpa comes to visit in your state, he can bring the gun with him, y'all can go to a local FFL and do the transfer in person.
If the gun is more than 50 years old (or on the C&R list) you can apply for your own collector's license (FFL 03) and pesky things like state lines won't matter; you can handle the transfer yourself. The license is cheap, is good for 3 years, and has other benefits.
"The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun"
|September 29, 2011, 11:44 PM
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Re: Contacting local law enforcement...
Not to besmirch local cops, but they are often quite oblivious of Federal laws regarding firearms. I know, as I've received some very erroneous advice from well-meaning, but misinformed, local cop friends. (In NC, for that matter..., but also in Florida.) By friends, I mean people I'd work out with multiple times a week, go camping and whitewater rafting with, etc. In other words, people who really meant to give me good advice, but whose advice turned out to be wrong.
And I've had a cousin, who was a Massachusetts cop at the time, get arrested in Maine by a game warden for violating a Maine firearms law while camping. So the local cops may or may not have any idea about laws in adjacent (or almost adjacent) states.
If you want to check with an LE agency, ATF is who you want to contact, primarily.
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|September 29, 2011, 11:58 PM
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Road trip
Next time you go there for a family visit, have him hand it to you then bring it home with you. It's not like North Carolina is like Kalifornia where you're expected to register every handgun you acquire. Kalifornia has weird laws about that. Let's say you buy a handgun from a private party at a gun show out of state and you bring it home with you. They actually expect you to turn it over to an FFL for the 10-day wait and register it, plus pay for the privilege of having to wait to get your gun back... but that's another story
|September 30, 2011, 12:01 AM
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zucchi, see the earlier posts, including a couple by TFL Mods, telling people NOT to recommend committing felonies on TFL... Edit: Note that in post 29, fiddletown even listed the appropriate US Codes, that would explain why what you recommend is a felony.
|September 30, 2011, 12:17 AM
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You clearly have no idea what the federal law regarding interstate transfer of firearms is. If you engage in multi-state transaction, you really need to do some studying.
And as Mal H wrote in post 33:
|October 1, 2011, 03:41 PM
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|October 1, 2011, 06:28 PM
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Agree that both state and federal law applies. And of course in NC one needs to comply with some unique, state formalities. But IME local police aren't familiar with federal law regarding firearms transfer.
"It is long been a principle of ours that one is no more armed because he has possession of a firearm than he is a musician because he owns a piano. There is no point in having a gun if you are not capable of using it skillfully." -- Jeff Cooper
|October 1, 2011, 07:19 PM
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Is anyone else wondering why this keeps going on and on and on? FFL fees will max at about $50-75 dollars on this transaction. Why in the hell should anyone contact an attorney or law enforcement or any of the other things suggested here? Just have your granddad take it to his local gun store, have that gun store ship it to your gun store, and be done with it.
|October 1, 2011, 10:51 PM
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wally626, I still wouldn't recommend just asking a local cop. Yes, state laws do apply - but I'd recommend finding out what agency actually regulates firearms sales and/or carry permits in the specific state, and checking with them. Not the city PD, not necessarily the county Sheriff (although I believe the Sheriff's Departments in NC do issue purchase permits, and would actually be the right people to check with in that specific instance).
But just arbitrarily asking the local LE guys could net a bunch of incorrect answers.
|October 2, 2011, 10:17 AM
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For the OP its fairly simple as far as NC goes. Federal law has said that any transfer of a pistol across state lines needs to go through an FFL, with a couple of narrow excpetions I have heard of, which I myself would not be comfortable doing, but thats just me.
If you want to go through with this, you find a FFL or Gunshop in your area. If you would give us an idea where in NC you live, myself, or others should be able to point you to a gunshop that can help you with this.
Step 1. Go by your local Sheriffs Dept. Apply for a pistol purchase permit. should take about 5 min and a few bucks. I think the cost and the actual application still varies alittle by county. All they are doing is checking your criminal background. You may have to fill out the form and drop it off one day, then pick up the permit another day or so later.
Step 2. Find arrange a local FFL/Gunshop to recieve the pistol when your grandfather has it sent to the FFL/Gunshop. This same FFL/Gunshop will handle the paperwork from there.
Step 3. When the pistol has come in to the FFL/Gunshop, you stop by, fill out the 4473 form, and the FFL/Gunshop will do a nics check to check your background once again. You will also give the FFL/Gunshop the pistol permit you got from the Sheriffs Dept. If the nics check is clear, your good to go, and you take the pistol home after paying the transfer fee, usually around $25, but ask first when you talk to the FFL/Gunshop.
Exception for Durham County
Step 4. After you pick up the pistol you must register the pistol with Durham county gov. Since I live in another area of NC I do not know what they require, but the durham county website AFAIK did have it listed.
Hope that this clears things up for you. Enjoy the gift!
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I'm not going to speculate on the disappointing reports that came out of yesterday's CBA negotiations. It depresses me and I'm just going to pretend that one day we're all going to wake up and this nightmare is going to be over.
Instead, I'm in the mood to revisit the Dolphins' draft class. Sitting here watching the NBA draft has me thinking about what Miami did in April and what our expectations should be for their picks.
Jeff Ireland certainty didn't bolster his approval rating by any stretch of the imagination, taking a conservative approach by passing on a quarterback. But every selection was justifiable, and at the end of the day, you have to believe the Dolphins will field a more competitive offense in 2011 and in particular, a rejuvenated and rebuilt running game.
But a lot of that will fall squarely on the shoulders of these rookies. So what do each of the Dolphins' picks have to do in year one to be labeled a smart selection by Ireland? What about in the long-term? Let's take a look.
Pre-camp projected depth chart standing: Starter
First-year expectations: Centers aren't usually worthy of being a top 15 pick, so when you take one that high he better be special. Not that the pressure surrounding Pouncey from the fan base will be as tangible as it would be for a skill player, but you better believe anything less than starting from day one and immediately upgrading the Dolphins' interior offensive line, and in turn, their ability to run the football between the tackles, would be a disappointment. This regime is no longer building for the future. They must win now not only because it's time by year four, but because their jobs are depending on it.
Mike Pouncey will play a huge role in getting the Dolphins over the hump, because the running game doesn't rebound without him stepping in and having an immediate impact. Statistically, Pouncey will be judged by how much the running game improves. The Dolphins ranked 21st in the league in rushing last season, a year after finishing 4th. A return to the top ten should be the goal, but the Dolphins should settle for nothing less than top half of the league. Pouncey will play a crucial role in any drastic improvement.
Long-term expectations: Pouncey was a safe pick by the Dolphins. They believe he can not only improve their running game in the present, but they're expecting him to provide consistency on the interior much like Jake Long has done at tackle. That means being a perennial Pro Bowl caliber center. But I think they would settle for Pouncey emerging as a solid starter, or a step below elite, for years to come.
Prediction: I've said all along that Pouncey's value was elevated by the success of his brother Maurkice with the Steelers. I have my doubts he'll ever be an elite center in this league. But I do think he'll be very solid and will give the Dolphins some consistency inside for several years. I see the Dolphins' running game improving significantly in 2011 and Mike Pouncey is going to do his part to make that possible.
Pre-camp projected depth chart standing: Starter
First-year expectations: Daniel Thomas has some huge shoes to fill with Ronnie and Ricky's likely departure. We've seen rookie running backs have huge immediate impacts in years past. It's the easiest position to succeed at as a rookie, and Daniel Thomas will be expected to make a speedy transition. A lot still depends on who the Dolphins sign in free agency, though.
For example, if they land a high-profile back like DeAngelo Williams, Thomas will still be expected to contribute and carry as much as 40% of the workload, but he'll be given more patience. He won't be asked to carry the offense. However, if the Dolphins were to sign a back like Darren Sproles, who can return kicks and catch the football out of the backfield but doesn't have the frame to take on a huge workload, Thomas will face the pressure of being the workhorse and will be expected to produce around 1,000 yards on the ground.
Long-term expectations: Can you even associate long-term with running backs anymore? Their already limited shelf lives seem to be diminishing and injuries can quickly derail even the most promising of careers. But quality ones are also easily had in the middle rounds of the draft. Thomas wasn't taken in the first round but he'll be expected to produce like a first-round pick. A handful of years of service as the starter or the two in a one-two punch, and at least a few seasons close to or above 1,000 yards should draw positive reviews.
Prediction: I'll admit I didn't watch much of Thomas while he was at Kansas St., but when I turn on the film I'm not overly impressed by what I see. I see a supposed power back that doesn't break many tackles and an upright running style that could lead to some injuries down the road. But enough of the experts have supported the pick, so I'll reserve judgment for now.
He is a fresh young talent, so I think he'll rejuvenate the running game. I see the Dolphins adding a back in free agency that will split or receive the majority of the carries, so I don't see Thomas putting up Pro Bowl caliber numbers as a rookie. About 750 yards and close to double-digit touchdowns as the likely go-to guy in the red zone are reasonable expectations.
Pre-camp projected depth chart standing: 4th
First-year expectations: As a fourth-round pick, we probably shouldn't get too worked up about Gates being the offense's deep threat just yet. He's a raw route runner that's going to have to work for every snap he gets with the first-team offense in the regular season. He does have the tools to be a real difference maker, but playing at a small school like Abilene Christian, there is just so much uncertainty with this kid. He could be a roster fringe player that is forced to fight for a roster spot every training camp, or he could be the next DeSean Jackson. Either way, the Dolphins probably have themselves somewhat of a project here.
He'll be given patience, but he's going to be expected to make some sort of immediate impact. His most likely avenue for that will be returning kicks. He didn't do so in college, but he has the speed to put fear in the hearts of special-teams coaches around the league. Returning punts is a more difficult task that requires smarts and toughness, so I expect Gates to return strictly kickoffs initially.
Long-term expectations: If Gates can find a home on special-teams and become one of the league's most lethal return men, he'll stick around even if he doesn't become number two material as a receiver. But I think the Dolphins drafted Gates to open up the offense and provide what was a boring and slow offense some much needed big-play ability. They won't demand he does so as a rookie but it will surely be welcomed. Eventually, though, whether it's late in 2011 or next year, he's going to be expected to make some plays offensively. Best case scenario: he eventually becomes the Dolphins' number two receiver and an explosive playmaker opposite Brandon Marshall.
Prediction: I think the Dolphins will do what they can to get the ball in Gates' hands. The easiest way to do that is let him return kicks but I think they'll plug him in on offense when they can even if the learning curve beats him up a bit. I don't expect a DeSean Jackson type playmaker, but I see Gates making some big plays for this franchise when it's all said and done.
Pre-camp projected depth chart standing: N/A (Doesn't really have a designated position so it's difficult telling where he stands on the depth chart)
First-year expectations: Charles Clay is another player that fans need to step back from and look at things in perspective. He was a sixth-round pick for a reason. Not that sixth-rounders can't emerge as impact players, but it's probably more likely that Clay doesn't crack the 53-man roster than become the Dolphins' version of Chris Cooley.
The Dolphins are going to experiment with him by moving him all over the formation and they're going to give him every opportunity to become a legitimate weapon on offense. He may not, but given the current state of tight end, with not much of anything behind Anthony Fasano, I would say the Dolphins are depending on Clay to produce like a number two tight end in 2011.
Long-term expectations: If Clay doesn't amount to anything as a rookie, the Dolphins will probably abandon their H-back experiment and sign or draft a traditional pass catching tight end next offseason. A productive rookie season, though, and Clay's expectations will go through the roof.
Prediction: I love the upside and value Clay gives the Dolphins as a late-round selection. He won't receive stiff competition from the Dolphins' backup tight ends, and there isn't another player on the roster they will likely move around like Clay. I think he makes the most of his opportunities and will provide a unique element to Brian Daboll's offense.
First-year expectations: There aren't many expectations associated with seventh-round selections, but the Dolphins are hoping they nabbed a nice little developmental project at nose tackle here. I doubt he earns a roster spot, but maybe he sticks around on the practice squad.
Long-term expectations: None
Prediction: Cut
First-year expectations: Originally thought to be a cornerback, Jeff Ireland has said the Dolphins will try him out at safety. Again, they aren't expecting much from a seventh-round pick, but Wilson is thought to be more talented than most players taken that late. He has the makings of a possible standout on special-teams, and if that materializes, his chances at winning one of the final roster spots will become much more realistic.
Long-term expectations: None
Prediction: Cut


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Jim Mateja
July 8, 1990
Perceptions, like reputations, are hard to live down.
Madonna probably couldn`t be considered as a candidate for the convent; Richard Nixon wouldn`t be invited to interview for a job as head of security; and it`s highly unlikely that Jim and Tammie Bakker would be enlisted to lead a charity fund drive.
Like it or not, you get saddled with an image.
Suzuki faces the same situation.
You may recall the furor that the Japanese automaker created a few years ago with the introduction of the four-wheel-drive Samurai utility vehicle. Safety groups said it was so unstable it was prone to roll over in a sharp corner or turn or if there was a shift in barometric pressure.
Before you slipped behind the wheel, you were advised to grab a rosary, Star of David or four-leaf clover. The thing was more tipsy than Uncle Joe at the family picnic.
With a minuscule wheelbase and raised center of gravity, we found Samurai an adventure, to say the least.
Toease consumer fears, Suzuki came out with the Sidekick, a four-wheel- drive utility vehicle built on a longer wheelbase and with a lower center of gravity for improved balance. It marketed an off shoot called Tracker sold by Chevrolet under the Geo designation.
Sidekick and Tracker have better balance than a smaller Samurai, but neither has the same road holding capabilities and smoothness of a Chevy Blazer or Ford Explorer, because they are only a fraction of the size.
We test drove a 1990 Sidekick and only needed to read the government mandated warning label on the inside door to understand why consumers are leery of the tiny machine.
The label read: ``If you make sharp turns or abrupt maneuvers, the vehicle may roll over or may go out of control and crash.``
If the Pope rode shotgun, you still might be shy about getting in a Sidekick, though that`s the same warning all four-wheel-drive utility vehicles must carry.
Sidekick is cute. It also has surprising room inside, despite tiny exterior dimensions. It`s a functional machine that can seat four adults or two adults and a suitcase or two, plus a bag of groceries. The rear seats slide forward to increase cargo area or back to increase passenger leg room. For entry to the rear seats, the front seats slide forward when the back is lowered.
You just don`t take many chances when behind the wheel, such as accelerating before any twist in the road or looking for hilly terrain to play on. Is the vehicle unsafe? That`s not the point. The question is do consumers perceive it as unsafe?
Some do. The typical phone call or letter at this time of the year comes from the parent whose son or daughter just purchased a Sidekick or Tracker; they want to know how they can get the kid`s money back and get him or her out of the vehicle.
But there are others who dismiss the criticism as another example of safety groups keeping the flow of do nations coming into their coffers by crying wolf.
Sidekick is offered in two- or
four-wheel drive and soft top or hardtop versions. All Sidekicks are built on an 86.6-inch wheelbase and are 142.5 inches long.
There are three series, the JS, LX and JLX. The two-wheel-drive JS was added for 1990 to give Suzuki a lower-priced entry level model that starts at $9,999.
We drove the four-wheel-drive JLX soft top with vinyl cover and plastic window that was far less noisy than we had expected. The true test of noise, of course, would come in January when winds off the lake bounce off the covering. That also would be the test of the insulation of vinyl and plastic in the Midwest Snow and Subzero Belt.
The top folds down manually; the clips, latches, attachments and Velcro for the task makes it simple enough for a couple of 16-year-olds to do. At least, we had to have a couple of 16-year-olds lower and the raise the top to preserve our sanity aft r a few feeble attempts by the forty something adult failed. Once done, it`s really rather easy. And once down, there`s still a roll bar.
Sidekick is powered by a 1.6-liter, fuel-injected, 4-cylinder engine that develops 80 horsepower and can handle the 2,200-pound vehicle adequately. The JLX comes with a short-throw 5-speed manual transmission. Only the JX offers 3-speed automatic as a $600 option.
The JLX is EPA rated at 26 miles per gallon city/28 m.p.g. highway.
Standard equipment includes AM/FM stereo with cassette and clock; tripmeter; center console; cloth seats; carpeting; electrically adjustable mirrors; styled steelwheels; rear-mounted, full-size spare; tinted glass; steel-belted, 15-inch, off-road tires; power front disc brakes; dual remote control side mirrors; locking fuel cap cover; and intermittent wipers.
The JLX soft top starts at $12,299; with hardtop, $12,499.
With Sidekick, you get a high-mileage vehicle with four-wheel-drive for the Snow Belt that runs about $4,000 less than a Blazer or Explorer.
What you give up is the stability, road holding, size and weight of a Blazer or Explorer. Not only do those vehicles offer all those in greater measure than Sidekick, they also have antilock brakes and without a great loss in fuel mileage.
>> 1990 Suzuki Sidekick Wheelbase: 86.6 inches. Length: 142.5 inches. Engine: 1.6-liter, 80 h.p. 4 cylinder. Transmission: 5-speed manual. Fuel economy: 26/28 m.p.g. Base price: $12,299 softtop; $12,499 hardtop. Strong point: 4WD, high milege. Weak point: Stability, small size. Chicago Tribune Graphic. >>
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The first two foes of FC Tucson's league season are about as different as the television shows "Touched by an Angel" and "Criss Angel Mindfreak."
FC Tucson opens its USL Premier Development League campaign with a two-match road trip. The men in black face a fierce foe, the BYU Cougars, tonight at 6:30 in Provo, Utah, and take on a new franchise, the Las Vegas Mobsters, on Saturday at 7:30 p.m.
In just two short seasons, FC Tucson and BYU have built up a rivalry that usually takes decades. Both teams have relished two wins and suffered two defeats. In 2012, FC Tucson defeated BYU 3-0 on July 6 to eliminate the Cougars from playoff contention. Last year, BYU turned the tables by knocking out FC Tucson with a 3-2 victory July 4.
The teams have combined for 16 yellow cards, 10 being shown to the Cougars, and one expulsion in their four matches.
"They're the team in this division that's already a well-tuned machine," FC Tucson coach Rick Schantz said in a phone interview while the team was driving through snow in Utah on Wednesday. "They played their spring season against college teams over the last few weeks. They look like a strong team with counter-attacking as their focus."
The other foe on the trip gained a good bit of fame even before it played a match, when ESPN analyst Alexi Lalas, a former star U.S. defender, said on national TV that he was offended by the nickname Mobsters.
Las Vegas opened its first season with a 1-0 home win over Albuquerque Sol FC on Saturday.
"With Vegas, we don't really know a whole lot about them," Schantz said. "We expect them to have a more technical style and be possession-oriented.
"We coined this road trip as one of our toughest this year. It should give us a sense of what the league is going to be about."
Match added
FC Tucson will play an exhibition match against National Premier Soccer League side FC Hasental at home on May 21, the club announced earlier this week.
The match against FC Hasental will kick off at 7:30 p.m. at Kino Sports Complex North Stadium. It is the first of three home nonleague friendlies FC Tucson will play this season. The other two matches have yet to be announced.
"We look at these exhibitions as a chance to get playing time for some of the players who haven't been on the field much," Schantz said. "You usually get more experienced guys or guys that may have professional careers behind them. We look forward to those games."
FC Hasental plays in Thousand Oaks, California, and has the nickname of "Los Conejos" or Rabbits. It is part of the NPSL, which uses college players but can also have former professional players.
Single-Match Tickets On Sale
FC Tucson announced that single-match tickets are now on sale for all home matches. Tickets will be $10 and are general admission. Fans can purchase single-match tickets at FCTucson.com.


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William Harner, acting Pennsylvania education secretary, resigns abruptly [View all]
Source: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
HARRISBURG -- Gov. Tom Corbett on Monday forced out his nominee to lead the state Department of Education, William Harner, three months after the selection was announced.
The government source said that Mr. Harner's troubles began in January or February, when an employee of the school district, while vacationing, received an email from Mr. Harner asking how the employee looked in a Speedo swimsuit. That email, according to the source, led to a complaint to the district's human resources office, which in turn led to the school board hiring outside counsel to investigate the matter. That outside counsel turned up more than a dozen other complaints about Mr. Harner, most involving comments he made in poor taste.
His personality "rubbed people the wrong way," the source said. The school board's behind-closed-doors probe was running concurrent to the Corbett administration's own vetting. On May 15, Mr. Corbett announced that his education secretary, Ron Tomalis, would leave the department to become an adviser to the governor on higher education, and that he would nominate Mr. Harner as secretary.
Sometime this month, the source said, the Corbett administration caught wind of the fact that the Cumberland Valley school board had held a closed-door vote to not renew Mr. Harner's contract. Sen. Andrew Dinniman of Chester County, the ranking Democrat on the Education Committee, said the announcement Monday showed a failure by the administration in checking its nominee. "If the governor's office is going to put people before the Senate without proper vetting, how in the future can we trust any nominee he puts before us?" Mr. Dinniman said. "Why did it take three months, while education is facing crucial questions?"
Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/news/politics-state/william-harner-acting-pennsylvania-education-secretary-resigns-abruptly-700825/#ixzz2d9nKH0HU
Interesting that the investigation by the "outside counsel" for the Cumberland Valley School Board turned up "more than a dozen" complaints, but then tries to downplay the severity by calling them simply "in poor taste". Defense counsel's "poor taste" is a District Attorney's sexual harassment crime, and clearly the school board's own outside counsel wouldn't want to open up any doors to lawsuits. Classic institutional reaction: scandal control.
So, did any of those complaints involve students, or only people working for the school district? Sandusky redux? Will Cumberland Valley be able to suppress all those complaints? According to Harner's biography on Project Vote Smart, he also has a long-standing involvement with Boy Scouts of America. Another red flag to be investigated.
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I am working on the logo redesign of E&P Federal Credit Union and would like some input on what I have so far. For a little background, E&P has been the federal credit union for employees of the Bureau of Engraving and Printing (hence E&P) but they are looking for a brand new look as their clientele demographic and business model shifts. Their main group of members now come from both a few local colleges and employees of the environmental protection agency. They are also planning to shut down many branches and become more of a virtual financial institution, where almost all banking services would occur through a new website.
What they want to say with their new look:
• Professional and trusted
• Helping the environment (by going all virtual)
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Feb. 11, 2014
Long Beach, Calif. -
Complete Long Beach State Game Notes (UCSB)
Game: UC Santa Barbara at Long Beach State
Date: Thursday, February 13, 2014
Time: 7:00 p.m.
Location: Long Beach, Calif.
Arena: Walter Pyramid (4,200)
TV Talent: Trent Schlom, Richie Schuler
Radio: KBEACH.org; HD 88.1-3
Radio Talent: Rob Brender
Webcast: ESPN3
Live Stats: longbeachstate.com
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49ers Drop First Big West Road Test At UC Santa Barbara
Junior Mike Caffey scored 21 points along with four assists and three steals, but didn't get enough help to offset 50.9% shooting by UC Santa Barbara in a 64-51 loss on the road to the Gauchos.
The 49ers host UC Santa Barbara in a matchup between the second and third place teams in the conference as the teams enter the heart of the second half of the Big West Conference slate. With a loss earlier in the year at UCSB, the 49ers need a win to keep pace with both the Gauchos and league-leading UCI in their quest to capture a fourth-consecutive regular season crown.
Junior Mike Caffey received Preseason All-Big West honors, one of six players picked one season after earning First-Team All-Big West honors as a sophomore. Caffey is leading the 49ers in scoring with 16.7 points per game, ranking sixth in the Big West and has scored over 20 points nine times on the year. Caffey is also leading the team with 100 assists, and is third in rebounding with 4.6 boards per game. His 34.74 minutes per game average is also the highest in the Big West this season. Caffey passed 900 points scored in his career against Cal State Northridge on Jan. 25, and is rapidly closing in on becoming Long Beach State's 23rd 1,000 point scorer.
Caffey is easily within reach of passing 1,000 carer points this week; he needs 20 more points to reach the plateau and start making his way up a list of former great 49ers. First on the list is NBA standout Bryon Russell, who scored 1,003 points in four seasons at The Beach, followed by George Trapp, a great on Jerry Tarkanian's 70's teams.
Since the arrival of Travis Hammonds and Tyler Lamb, the 49ers have turned things around after a 1-9 start. Defensively, the team has been competitive, making the team's offensive output the key to victory. The key number is shooting 35%; Since Dec. 19, the team is 9-0 when passing that number while going 0-4 when shooting under that mark.
Rob Brender returns for his fifth season of play-by-play for Long Beach State. His audio call can be found at kbeach.org and on 88.1-3 HD Radio or via the KBEACH Radio App. All untelevised home games will also be streamed live at www.bigwest.org/tv.
Tyler Lamb, a junior transfer from UCLA, became eligible for the 49ers on December 19, and has immediately had a huge impact. Lamb scored 20 points off of the bench against USC, helping the 49ers earn their first win over a Pac-12 opponent at home since 1999 in a 72-71 win. Lamb has scored in double-figures in 10 of the 13 games he's played with the 49ers, and is averaging 15.5 points per game.
Senior Dan Jennings continues to put up big numbers for the 49ers in his final season. Jennings ranks third in the Big West in rebounding with 8.1 rebounds per game, and is third on the 49ers with 9.9 points per game. Four times Jennings has led the 49ers in scoring, and has topped the team in rebounding 14 times in 2013-14, including recording his fifth double-double of the year against CSUN with 14 points and 11 rebounds. Jennings also became the first 49er in two years to have a perfect day from the field, shooting 6-for-6 against the Matadors.
After scoring 12 points against Loyola Marymount, junior A.J. Spencer has secured a spot in the starting lineup, scoring in double-figures in 11 times. The junior college transfer recently helped lift the 49ers over Hawai'i scoring a career-high 24 points, and is fourth on the team with an 9.3 ppg average.
Junior college transfer David Samuels picked up his second double-double of the year against UC Davis, putting up 10 points and 10 rebounds against the Aggies. Samuels finished with 15 points and 11 rebounds at NC State while recording his first double-double earlier in the season. His 5.5 rebounds per game rank 14th in the Big West, and second on the team behind Jennings.
Originally serving as a backup to Mike Caffey, Branford Jones forced his way into the starting lineup as an extra ball-handler against VCU, and responded with a breakout game, scoring 19 points in 37 minutes with just one turnover against VCU's havoc defense. The redshirt freshman is continuing to showcase much of the promise the guard showed before going down with an ankle injury in the first game of the year last season. Jones currently ranks seventh on the team in scoring, averaging 5.4 points per game and is second on the team with 46 assists.
The 49ers also bring in freshman Travis Hammonds, who joined Long Beach State after enrolling for the spring semester. Hammonds is a 6-6 guard who hails from Columbia, S.C., and had an outstanding game against UCI, leading The Beach with 12 points. His true breakout came against UC Davis however, scoring 20 points on 7-of-9 shooting with six rebounds, four assists and three steals to lead the 49ers over the Aggies. The true freshman picked up his first double-double at UC Irvine with 10 points and 10 rebounds, the third 49er of the year to record a double-double.
Charles Lockett remains on a redshirt year, and senior forward Edgar Garibay is out for the year with an ACL tear.
Long Beach State once again faced a grueling non-conference schedule. The 49ers faced No. 5 Arizona in their first road test on November 11, and continued to play two more Top 15 opponents in No. 14 Michigan and No. 10 VCU at the Puerto Rico Tip-Off. The 49ers also faced a Big East opponent into the Walter Pyramid when Creighton arrived December 3. The 49ers have also played Kansas State twice, beat USC at home, travelled to Washington and NC State, and closed out non-conference play with a trip to No. 25 Missouri.
Long Beach State's strength of schedule is also objectively among the highest - the 49ers closed out non-conference rank as having the No. 3 Non-Conference SOS as ranked by kenpom.com. The LBSU schedule was also ranked No. 2 by WarrenNolan.com at the conclusion of non-conference play.
With Long Beach State's win Dec. 19 against USC, Dan Monson moved into second-place in coaching wins at Long Beach State with 106, passing Seth Greenberg. Monson currently has 114 wins at Long Beach State. The top spot is held by Jerry Tarkanian, who won 122 games as the coach of the 49ers from 1968 to 1973.
In conference play, Long Beach State is leading the league in one category which isn't surprising; steals, averaging 6.33 per game, led individually by Caffey, Lamb, and Hammonds. In a bit of a surprise, however, the 49ers are leading the league in rebounding as well, averaging 38.3 rebounds per game in Big West play, despite having no player taller than 6'9" active.
Long Beach State had won five straight games against the Gauchos prior to a loss on the road in the Thunderdome on January 16. However, The 49ers still have won five straight games against UCSB in the Walter Pyramid, with the last loss coming in Dan Monson's first year at Long Beach State.
In that January 16 meeting, Mike Caffey scored 21 points, but it wasn't enough to offset off nights from both Tyler Lamb and Dan Jennings, who combined for seven points in the 64-51 loss.
Alan Williams, the star of the Gauchos squad, is leading the Big West in both scoring and rebounding this season, averaging 23.1 points and 11.4 rebounds per game on the year. LBSU did a good job defensively against the big man at UCSB, holding Williams to 12 points, but Williams finished with 15 rebounds, part of a double-double, and was one of three players to finish in double-figures in that contest for the Gauchos.
Outside of Williams, both Kyle Boswell and Michael Bryson are averaging double-figures on the year. Boswell is averaging 11.3 points per game, while Bryson is sitting at 10.8 points per game.
Williams is also averaging a double-double in league play, with 22.6 points per game and 12.4 rebounds per in eight games played.
The series between the teams is the second-largest for LBSU, and is one of the team's closest, with the 49ers having a 61-56 edge in 117 meetings dating back to the 1951-52 season.
Long Beach State stays at home, hosting Cal Poly at 7:30 p.m. on Saturday night in the Walter Pyramid. The game will be carried live on Fox Sports Prime Ticket.
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Malone, hurt when he slid into a net during Tuesday's loss to the Sabres, is the latest in a string of injuries that will leave Tampa Bay severely shorthanded Saturday against the Hurricanes.
Left wing Johan Harju was called up from AHL Norfolk on Thursday.
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A karyotype is a picture of all of the chromosomes present in a single one of your cells. Often times doctors will order a karyotype to check for chromosomal abnormalities and diagnose rare diseases.

A karyotype can tell how many chromosomes you have, as well as any errors those chromosomes may have. Normally, a person has 23 pairs of 46 chromosomes. If you have two X chromosomes, you are biologically a female. Having an X and a Y chromosome means you are biologically a male.

How Karyotypes Are Performed

If your doctor has ordered a karyotype, you will need to have blood drawn for analysis. Your sample will most likely be gathered from blood that was drawn during a doctor's appointment, hospital, or a trip to a testing laboratory. If you are pregnant, a karyotype for your child will be done from either a sample of amniotic fluid or chorionic villi. Amniocentesis and chorionic villus sampling procedures are a bit more invasive than a blood test—both require a needle to be inserted into your abdomen—however, they are relatively painless procedures.

After your sample is collected, it will be analyzed by a special cytogenetics laboratory. The cytogenetic specialist analyzing your sample will separate your cells, grow them so that they have enough to analyze, and then release the chromosomes from the cells. Once the chromosomes are released, they are stained, analyzed, counted to see if you have more or less than the normal 46 chromosomes, and sorted. The cytogeneticist will also look at the structure of your chromosome to make sure there is no missing or added genetic material. Once this process is complete, the findings are written up for your doctor to share with you.

For karyotypes done on blood samples, results should be available within three to seven days. The results of karyotypes on prenatal samples take a bit longer—anywhere from 10 to 14 days.

What Karyotypes Say About Your Health

Based on your karyotype, cytogeneticists, people who study chromosomes, can diagnose any condition that results from extra or missing chromosomes. In addition to Down syndrome (trisomy 21), a karyotype can determine if you have:

Edward syndrome (trisomy 18)

Patau syndrome (trisomy 13)

Turner syndrome (one X)

Klinefelter syndrome (XXY)

XYY syndrome

Triple X syndrome (XXX)

Karyotypes can also determine whether your chromosomes have any deletions—such as Cri-du-Chat syndrome (chromosome 5) or Williams syndrome (chromosome 7)—or if that have translocations, where one part of a chromosome is found on or switched with another part of a different chromosome. Karyotypes can detect both reciprocal and Robertsonian translocations. About 2 percent to 3 percent of Down syndrome cases are caused by a translocation on chromosome 21. Robertsonian translocations can also cause Patau syndrome, Angelman syndrome, and Prader-Willi syndrome.

If you, or your child, has Down syndrome or a trisomic condition, karyotypes taken from an assortment of different cells can determine whether or not you have a mosaic trisomy. Mosaicism means the trisomy is present in some cells and not others.


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SOUTHEAST DISTRICT -- Students in Shawn Snyder's third grade class at Fredericksburg Elementary School were put to the test to improve their community, and delivered in a way neither Snyder nor the students imagined.
In a project aiming to make the community a better place through six objectives, Snyder said she let the students take control and create something they were passionate about.
Student groups of three or four tackled topics including working to preserve the environment, helping the homeless,restoring housing in low-income areas, supporting education, planning community events,starting a business and understanding differences.
With each group assigned one objective, their minds went to work and ultimately raised 810 food items for People to People Ministries in Wooster, $82 for the Christian Children's Home of Ohio and a new sandbox and tulips planted around the school. Kindergarten students received board games created by the third-grade students and a spelling night was planned with 46 participants, including students and parents.
Snyder had never attempted this type of project before in her 10 years at Fredericksburg, but was overwhelmed by the results.
"Instead of just teaching them these objectives, I wanted them to actually be able to do everything and make it real for them. The hope, obviously, is that they grow into citizens who volunteer and do things to help their own communities," Snyder said.
She said parent volunteers also guided the students to reach their objective. One group of students filled its sandbox with clean sand from Lowe's while calculating how many bags they would need in the future.
To achieve starting a business as their objective, four students created a lemonade stand while tracking cost analysis and profit margins to boot.
"They did all the math to figure out how much of (certain) materials they would need, and how many cups they would need to sell to make a profit," Snyder said.
Students created their own advertising to publicize the lemonade stand, food drive and spelling night.
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The three students in charge of helping the homeless said they had alternative ideas before deciding on holding a food drive where they asked peers to bring in food items the week of Oct. 15.
"At first we were going to do a corn hole tournament, but then we thought that would be too much to handle," student Gavan Morris said. "So we brought it down to something small and then we thought of a (food drive) ... to help the homeless."
Snyder said she wasn't sure how many food items would be donated, but she could take the donations in one car load.
"I actually had to enlist another teacher to help me get it all there that night," she said. "I thought I would be able to put it all in my car, but no."
People to People Executive Director Lydia A. Stahl wrote Snyder's class a letter to thank the class for its contributions.
"You became a part of something larger than just a social studies project -- you became a part of a community wide ministry," Stahl said in her letter.
Although Snyder said she was impressed by her students, she also said she expects a lot from them in return.
"I try to leave everything (as) open-ended as I'm able to because they'll come up with things that I'll never think of," Snyder said. "I guess my goal is to put the learning in their hands and let them learn. I would say the class as a whole runs with a lot of student leadership. I have very high expectations and they know that."
Principal Amy Wentworth said she had never seen such student involvement on an elementary school level before.
"I just thought it was really great that we have a teacher who was willing to take a risk and give them a task and see where they can go with it. I fully support that because I think, a lot of times, our students are capable of so much more than we think they are, and we give them these open-ended tasks so they could think critically," Amy Wentworth said. "I was shocked with how far they took it. ... They responded to their peers in a way that I don't think (adults) would've even responded to."
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I am 5'4" and 210lbs. I know that I have to lose weight before a reduction so I won't bring it up until I do. My breasts are at a 38G. My neck and back CONSTANTLY hurt and I have scars from my bras. I've always had a larger chest but I've not always been this overweight and I guess my fear is if I lose too much weight will I not be able to get a reduction? Will my breast already be small to the point where I can't get one done. My insurance will have to pay for it because I cannot afford it.
If I Lose Too Much Weight Can I Still Have a Breast Reduction?
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Weight loss before breast reduction
Loosing weight before you undergo breast reduction would be beneficial in a number of regards. Being closer to your "ideal body weight" will make surgery safer. It is unlikely that you would loose so much weight in your breasts that your symptoms resolve without a breast reduction.
Good luck with your weight loss efforts. If you are struggling with weight loss, consider asking your doctor for a referral to a nutritionist.
Lose weiht befor breast reduction.
Lose the weight. Get good photo documentation. Work hand in hand with your doctor. Once you get to the weight that is correct you will still need a substantial reduction of breast and skin along with a lift . Your insurance will cover if you document, document, and document and your doctor does the same.
Weight loss and breast reduction
While weight loss will certainly cause some decrease in your breast size, I doubt that you will decrease in size to a point of not needing a reduction. Most women with very large breast often lose weight in other areas first and the breast tend to be the last thing to decrease in size. Lets say that you lose 50-60 #. You will likely be smaller than the 38 G you are now, but still likely a 36/38 DDD.
As you get close to your goal weight (20-25#), go see a local PS and consider getting the reduction done then. Often the last few pounds are difficult to lose especially if the weight of your breast is inhibiting exercise.
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Thank you for the question and pictures.
It sounds like you are an excellent candidate for the breast reduction procedure; it is one of the most patient pleasing operations we perform.
You are doing the right thing by losing weight first. Doing so will maximize the chances of achieving the best results possible and minimize the chances that further surgery will be necessary in the near future.
Given your concerns regarding health insurance coverage you may want to check the insurance companies policy in regards to breast reduction surgery.
At some point, consultation with a well experienced board-certified plastic surgeon will be helpful.
Best wishes.
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Breast Reduction - Weight Loss and Insurance Coverage
Hi MsLoraine in Holyoke, MA,
It sounds (and looks) to me like you can lose some weight and still obtain insurance coverage for a breast reduction.
However, it doesn't matter what I think - what matters is what your insurance company thinks. In order to find out, you need to work with a plastic surgeon. Specifically, he or she will need to take some photos of you and submit them to your insurance company and then find out what the criteria are in your specific case. Each insurance company is different, and companies often have more than one plan - different plans may have different criteria. And they are always changing. That's the first step.
The next, though, is whether your surgeon will accept your insurance. You may want to start, then, by getting a list of surgeons who participate in your insurance plan. Then, at least, you'd have that issue addressed.
I hope that this helps, and good luck,
Dr. E
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Will losing weight reduce my chances of obtaining approval from my insurance company for breast reduction surgery?
It would be prudent for your health, ultimate result from a breast reduction surgery and anesthesia risk to lose substantial weight prior to undergoing the procedure. From your photos, it would be highly unlikely that your breasts would shrink so much in size that your insurance company would not provide coverage for the procedure. Many of them will correlate your weight with a specific minimum of breast tissue that needs to be removed. Therefore, at a lower weight, they will require less breast tissue to be removed in order for insurance coverage.
Will losing weight shrink breasts too much to keep from being approved for breast reduction?
Based on your photos I doubt that your breasts will get too small with weight reduction. They look quite a bit out of proportion to the rest of your body and they likely will stay that way. I'm sure that you will feel better with the extra weight off.
Breast reduction surgery
Congratulations for your plan to lose weight! It will make you feel better and breast reduction surgery will be easier and safer.
Even though with weight loss your breast will be smaller but they will be still "out of proportion" and I would imagine your insurance may cover for the procedure even than.
Lose weight before reduction
Your primary issue in my opinion is your truncal obesity. This is a much more serious problem than your large breasts. Your truncal obesity puts you at a much higher risk for a long list of diseases. A breast reduction will do nothing to address your obesity, although you make look a little slimmer afterwards. Obese patients also have a much higher risk of post-operative problems like infection, delayed healing and blood clots. You need to put your overall health first and consult a weight loss specialist. Your breasts will shrink with weight loss and you may find you will only need a lift after you have acheived a healthy weight. I find it very odd that you would even think of hanging onto all that excess weight just because of insurance coverage for a reduction. I'm sure this is not the answer you want but it is my honest opinion.
Lisa Lynn Sowder, M.D.
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Izler Solomon will conduct the Symphony-of-the-Air in a program featuring the American premiere of a new work by Robert Starer, one of Israel's best-known composers, with Zin Zeitlin, Israeli violinist, as soloist. Proceeds of the evening will go to support the work of the America-Israel Society.


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David Finkle • New York City • Oct 19, 2005
Now, however, it seems that time has come to an end. Only last week, audiences at the Roundabout were invited to stare enviously at John Lee Beatty's rich-folks kitchen in Richard Greenberg's A Naked Girl on the Appian Way. This week, patrons of the Manhattan Theater Club are treated to not one but three beautiful Beatty kitchens in the revival of Alan Ayckbourn's Absurd Person Singular. It's starting to look as if this season could represent an upscaling of "kitchen-sink drama" to include works about middle- and upper-class marrieds. (I'm not suggesting the target audiences for these offerings are limited to ticket buyers having their kitchens redone. But those falling into the category may nonetheless want to check out Beatty's sets. They might even want to consult with him!)
This three-act play concerns three well-heeled, well-educated couples trying to make some sense of their marriages. Why Jane (Clea Lewis) and Sidney (Alan Ruck), Eva (Mireille Enos) and Geoffrey (Sam Robards), and Marion (Deborah Rush) and Ronald (Paxton Whitehead) remain hitched is a big question mark; it appears that they do so simply because Ayckbourn wants to bring all of them together for three successive Christmas Eves when no one else will have them. They remain linked -- both as couples and as friends -- by default.
It's Ayckbourn's notion that when these acquaintances congregate, in one kitchen per year, the dynamics among them shift. Compulsive cleaner Jane and impatient Sidney look like losers, but they climb the social ladder by dint of his commercial ambitions. Depressed Eva and philandering Geoffrey remain uncomfortable with his straying. Eva, suicidal throughout the entire second act, is able to reach a point where she finds her footing and says, "It's simply that you're no longer a man I care enough to throw myself out of a window for." Meanwhile, architect Geoffrey goes after a project that collapses around him. Bland banker Ronald watches as his snobby second wife Marion descends into alcoholism; they're eventually forced, as are Eva and Geoffrey, to put up with the advancing Jane and Sidney.
Ayckbourn infuses some of the proceedings with humor, including physical humor. There's plenty of that here as these folks variously get soaked in the rain and drenched under sinks, climb on a kitchen table to hang from an overhead lamp, stumble around drunk, and play games involving oddball dancing. But Ayckbourn has never had a particularly sunny view of the bourgeoisie. He often frames his portraits of middle-class, suburban English life with a clever theatrical gimmick -- here, it's the three separate kitchens -- and the six characters he trots out this time aren't terribly attractive. Indeed, two of the men are outright boors; one is well-meaning but of the Colonel Blimp school. One of the women suffers from echolalia, another is bent on self-destruction, and the third is spiraling into alcoholism. They're not a fun crowd, and it's hard for the audience to muster concern for them.
Once again, director John Tillinger has taken on the job of making the appalling appealing. For some time, he's been the go-to guy for English comedies and may be getting a bit tired. He has smartly had Jane Greenwood design 1970s' costumes for a piece first presented on Broadway in 1974, and he certainly keeps the actors moving through those three kitchens at a brisk tempo. A few of them, particularly Ruck and the normally amusing Lewis as the arrivistes, occasionally do too much. But Whitehead and Robards generally hit their stride and keep it, while Rush makes hay as the imbibing Marion. Playing Eva, Enos has accepted the impossible task of remaining believably self-destructive for a full act; moreover, she has taken on her second consecutive Sandy Dennis role. (She was Honey in the recent Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? revival.) Can Any Wednesday be far behind?
Don't ask for an explanation of the play's title. Ayckbourn has to plan ahead at his Stephen Joseph Theatre in Scarborough and, apparently, he sometimes chooses a title well before he writes the play attached to it. Because he's such a prolific writer, it would be interesting to know if he ever has time to go back and refine any of his works; if so, here's one at which he might want to take another pass.
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