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UC to Host "MV Independent Higher Education Forum" Tuesday
CICU, Hamilton, Hartwick, St. ELizabeth College of Nursing, Pratt MWP to Participate
Written By CICU
Forum to showcase partnerships, allow for exchange of ideas, networking
Utica, NY (10/15/2012)-
Hamilton College, Hartwick College, Pratt MWP, St. Elizabeth College of Nursing, and Utica College, in conjunction with the Commission on Independent Colleges and Universities in New York, will host the "Mohawk Valley Independent Higher Education Forum: Brainpower, Partnerships and Resources for Our Region" on Tuesday, October 16, 2012.
The forum will showcase partnerships and provide an opportunity for exchanging ideas and networking for higher education, government, business and community leaders. Discussions will focus on further harnessing independent higher education's community and workforce contributions for the economic and social good of the region.
Nearly 1.3 million students enroll annually at colleges and universities in New York State with the largest percentage attending private, not-for-profit institutions. The Independent Sector of higher education is a vibrant contributor to the economy and community. Annually, the sector contributes $54 billion to the state's economy providing 174,000 direct jobs and a payroll that exceeds $10.7 billion. Along with the role of anchor tenants, campuses are also talent magnets, workforce and innovation catalysts, and community partners.
Mohawk Valley Independent Higher Education Forum
Date: Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Time: 9:00 a.m. – 12:00 p.m.
Location: Utica College, 1600 Burrstone Road, Utica, NY
For a detailed agenda and to register: http://ismohawkvalley12.eventbrite.com
There is no cost to attend; however, please RSVP by October 10, 2012.
Campus Location: Economic Crime and Justice Studies Building
9:00 am – 10:00 am – Networking Breakfast & Community Partner Fair with displays showcasing campus partnerships with community, including service learning, community service, civic engagement, etc.
10:00 am – 10:45 am – Welcome and Regional Economic Impact Announcement
Remarks by: Laura L. Anglin, president of cIcu; Margaret L. Drugovich, president of Hartwick College; Todd Hutton, president of Utica College; Marian Kovatchitch, president of St. Elizabeth College of Nursing, as well as elected officials.
11:00 am – 12:00 pm - "Think Globally, Hire Locally:" A Dialogue About Working with Campuses to Attract and Retain Talent
The panel discussion will highlight partnerships between the organizations that seek to hire students for internships, co-ops, or permanent placement and independent colleges and universities. Attracting and retaining talent in the region will be the overarching theme.
Moderator: Larry Gilroy, co-chair of the Regional Economic Development Council
Steve DiMeo, President, Mohawk Valley EDGE;
Frank Behlmer, Chief Operating Officer for Global Operations, Bank of New York Mellon;
William Streck, CEO of Bassett Health Care;
Varinya Sheppard, Chief Nursing Officer at St. Elizabeth Medical Center; and
Mary McLean Evans, Executive Director, Career Center, Hamilton College.
Contact: Jennifer Miller, Director of Communications, cIcu at 518-436-4781 or by email at firstname.lastname@example.com
Camille Sciortino
Coordinator, Corporate & Foundation Partnerships


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This statement on implementation of the OECD DAC HLM Agreement on ODA Modernisation of PSI has been prepared by EDFI as input to the ongoing discussions in the DAC and it does not represent the position of any participant country.
Nanno Kleiterp today became the new Chairman of EDFI's board of directors. For more information please read the press release.
EDFI Flagship Report 2016: Investing to create jobs, boost growth and fight poverty
The Electrification Financing Initiative, ElectriFI opens its doors on 15 April and interested parties can submit their project proposals through www.electrifi.org.
ElectriFI is an innovative mechanism to unlock, accelerate and leverage investments providing access to affordable, reliable, sustainable and modern energy.
The initiative was launched by the European Commissioner for International Cooperation and Development, Mr Neven Mimica, at the 21st Conference of Parties to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change and was also acknowledged by the G7 Leaders' Declaration.
The implementation of the initial € 75 million allocation to ElectriFI was entrusted to the European Development Finance Institutions led by the Entrepreneurial Development Bank of the Netherlands.
This first EU contribution to ElectriFI will support investments that can improve the lives of more than six million people living principally in rural, underserved areas, promote rational use of energy for productive uses and social services benefiting the bottom of the pyramid.
For further information
More information on ElectriFI can be found on www.electrifi.org including the application form. This is the first round of Invitation to submit project proposals for ElectriFI and will be followed by another round in the last quarter of 2016.
More information on the EU development cooperation in sustainable energy.
Information on the European Development Finance Institutions and on the Entrepreneurial Development Bank of the Netherlands.
Seven EDFI members invest in African SME fund
CDC, DEG, Finnfund, FMO, PROPARCO, SIFEM and Swedfund have together committed EUR 97 mln to AfricInvest Fund III. AfricInvest Fund III is a subSaharan Africafocused private equity fund, with a target size of EUR 200 mln The Fund will invest in wellestablished SMEs that demonstrate the potential to scaleup their activities on a regional level. In addition to generating riskadjusted returns for its investors, the Fund will create sustainable employment opportunities for thousands of people in Africa, contribute to regional economic integration and increase tax revenues for local governments.
EDFI will participate at the Global African Investment Summit 2015 in London on December 01-02, 2015.
The Global African Investment Summit in London is a leading international platform, bringing high-level African government and investors to London to discuss investment opportunities into Africa.
The event is run in partnership with 6 African Heads of State, 30 Ministers from across Africa, 650 Private Sector Investors, Development Banks, Pension Funds, Sovereign Wealth Funds, Multilateral Investment bodies and 135 Pan African Project owners, and looking to drive long-term international foreign direct investment into African Power, Agriculture, Financial Services, Capital Markets, Oil and Gas and Critical Infrastructure projects.
The programme agenda will address 'Transforming African Economies for Global Competitiveness', covering the Natural Resources, Infrastructure and Power Sectors. New for 2015, sees the addition of dedicated sessions on Infrastructure, Real Estate and FMCG, a case study stream, and roundtable discussions addressing over 150 bankable projects.
For more information, please visit: www.tgais.com
EDFI 2013 ANNUAL REPORT on the EDFI activities, co-financing facilities EFP & ICCF and individual results of the EDFI members
The members of EDFI have jointly commissioned an evaluation of the effectiveness of EDFI members' support for SME development through financial institutions in Africa. In the course of 2013, this evaluation has been carried out by Horus Development Finance.
The members of EDFI have jointly commissioned an evaluation of the effectiveness of EDFI members' support for SME development through financial institutions in Africa. In the course of 2013, this evaluation has been carried out by Horus Development Finance (Horus). Please download the report here
Harmonized Development Results Indicators for Private Sector Investment Operations.
In October 2013, twelve members of the European Development Finance Institutions (EDFI) together with other thirteen International Financial Institutions (IFIs) signed a memorandum to foster collaboration and enhance private sector development impact.
The memorandum signature of the "IFIs Harmonized Development Results Indicators for Private Sector Investment Operations" represents a landmark achievement for developing finance and an important step towards developing a global standard to measure and report on development results in the private sector.
The harmonization will enable a more efficient, consistent and timely analysis of projects' impact results, a better coordination and partnership between the public and private sector, and will enhance the sharing of best practices and lessons learned among the IFIs.
The initiative harmonizes indicators definitions, units of measurement and reporting standards for 28 core indicators from 12 different sectors. This will allow IFIs to use common datasets to assess the development results of their operations.
The harmonized indicators will make IFIs impact assessment more consistent across institutions. It will be easier to aggregate and compare sector and regional impact results and to better assess the overall development effect of different institutions in particular areas. As a result, private and public institutions will be able to better coordinate their development efforts.
At the same time, clients will also benefit from the harmonization of the reporting standards, especially private sector clients receiving investment from different development institutions, as it will ease the reporting burden and save time.
Finally, the implementation of the harmonized indicators will simplify the projects' benchmarking and facilitate the sharing of best practices and lessons learned among IFIs.
The signature of the memorandum took place in Washington DC during the World Bank Group Annual Meeting. It is the successful conclusion of a wide consensus reached through an iterative consultation process were many experts and stakeholders from different IFIs and international institutions were involved.
The EDFI members look forward to continuing their collaboration with other IFIs to refining and complementing the initial list of indicators included in the memorandum and improve its application in the future.
For more information: Memorandum - IFIs Harmonized Development Results Indicators

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I've been stuck in the hospital since Sunday, attending to and entertaining my 9-year old daughter. She has pneumonia and requires around-the-clock care.
Since my husband recently spent a week in hospital as a patient, he wasn't thrilled with the idea of another week of the same. Even if he wasn't the sick one. So I stepped up to the plate while he holds down the fort at home.
We trade off for a couple of hours each day, but for the most part, my 'reprieve' is spent driving home, stopping to pick up groceries and the boys from school, making dinner, packing my food for the next day, showering and making the return drive back to the hospital in time for the evening, over-night and morning shift.
Not a lot of time to exercise or meal plan.
Here's what I've been doing to maintain the status quo;
- Taking the stairs between paediatrics (3rd floor) and the coffee shop (basement)
- Drinking at least 75 ounces of water a day
- Packing a 'clean eats' cooler (overnight oats, roast veggies with chicken and brown rice, apples, berries, almonds and raw veggies) with breakfast, lunch and snacks for the following day (don't rely on hospital cafeteria, coffee shop or take-out)
- Pushups and planks (although I don't like to think about what might be on the hospital floor)
- Going to bed early (although I've technically been in bed 10 hours each night, sleep has been very interrupted with the hourly nursing check-ins)
- Taking a multivitamin with iron and Cold-FX each morning
- Washing my hands like crazy, because who knows what bugs might be lurking in the hospital corridors…
If you're lucky enough to only be house-bound with your sick little one, you'll also have access to on-line and DVD workouts. But this isn't the week to post personal bests; you'll be using lots of physical and emotional energy dealing with the illness and need to take care of yourself so that you don't get sick too.
What do you do to keep yourself healthy when caring for a sick family member?
Please share your suggestions for easy, clean, packable lunches; I'm getting bored with my old standbys!
Please join me on the Friday Fitness Blog Hop. As there's no WiFi in the hospital, I'm stuck surfing the web on my iPhone, but you've got no excuse not to sit down at the computer, perhaps while you're little one's napping, and check out all the other inspiring fitness bloggers on this week's hop. Just click on the image below to get started!


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Laurels for Greipel, tears for Bouhanni
Sprinters were seen as the leading roles of stage 5 and they were, sometimes unwittingly. Andre Greipel logically snatched his second win of this Tour in similar weather conditions as the first in the rain and wind of Zealand. By contrast, France's Nacer Bouhanni, who was looking forward to this long stretch along the battlefield of WWI, crashed after 11 km and was forced out prematurely. In the finale, Greipel overpowered Peter Sagan and Mark Cavendish to strengthen his green jersey while...
Peter Sagan: "It was good"
Peter Sagan again missed victory by the slimmest margin in a sprint he started too late. But the Slovak, who retained his young rider white jersey, insisted it had been a good day for him.
interviewsAndre Greipel: "An interesting sprint"
interviewsTony Martin: "No time to enjoy the jersey"
Sporting stakesA course made for sprinters
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Arras Communauté Urbaine
A major fair town back in the Middle Age, Arras welcomed thousands of tradesmen on its Grand-Place, today part of the UNESCO World Heritage. Nowadays, the most famous rock and pop artists, including Prince, Sting, Stromae or Ben Harper, show up in Arras for the Main Square Festival.
A few years ago, Johnny Hallyday had performed there… behind the steering wheel of a 4by4 car at the start of the 2002 Dakar rally. The peloton of the Tour also took off from the city on three occasions, the last time in 2014.
Web sites
45,000 inhabitants
Prefecture of Pas-de-Calais (62)
Specialities: chitterlings, porcelain, cheese hearts, cobbles, chocolate rats
Economy: food, transport/logistics, electrical industry, chemicals
Sports: ASPTT Arras (women's basketball), Rugby Club d'Arras
Personalities: Robespierre, Vidocq, Pierre-Jean Jouve (writer), Guy Mollet (prime minister)
Festivals: Main Square Festival, Musikampus, popular expression and social critique book festival, International Film Festival
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- Feeding zone
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- Hors catégorie climb
- Points of interest
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Amiens Métropole
The last time the Tour came to Amiens in 2004, the peloton arrived on the road from Chartres and a breakaway including Thomas Voeckler, launching his prestigious career in yellow, was heading for glory. The stage was eventually claimed by another member of that group: Stuart O'Grady. The victory of the Australian sprinter in Amiens came as a sign to history. Indeed in 1918, during the first World War, troops from Down Under had managed to stop a German military offensive just before it reached the city.
Web sites
133,000 inhabitants
Prefecture of the Somme (80)
Economy: automotive suppliers, call and customer relations' centres, two major industrial and logistical complexes, digital support, healthcare, agro alimentary industry, energy
Specialities: macaroons, chocolate tuiles, duck pâté, pear tart, ficelle picarde (savoury pancake)
Sport: Amiens Sporting Club (football), Hockey Club Amiens Somme (Magnus League), Amiens Métropole Swimming (elite) and national swimming centre, Amiens Longueau Métropole Volleyball (women's elite division)
Personalities: Jules Verne, Choderlos de Laclos, Bernard Quennehen (cyclist), Jean-Luc Van den Heede (sailor), Jeremy Stravius (swimmer), Robert Marchand, Jean-Pierre Pernaud, Delahousse Laurent, Thierry Adam (journalists)
Festivals: La Rue est à Amiens, International Film Festival, Comics' Festival
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Since it was founded, Amaury Sport Organisation has been involved in various sponsorship and philanthropy activities. It is the generosity of sport that can be found in a certain number of initiatives aiming to invest in the workings of the disciplines themselves (sponsorship of the French Federation of Cycling), in a humanitarian and social framework, (Mécénat Chirurgie Cardiaque, Actions Dakar, Un Techo Para Mi Pais) or in the environmental sphere (Madre De Dios, selective sorting, etc.). Read more
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Modesto man won't be deported, citizenship OKd
Published 4:00 am, Thursday, May 21, 2009
A federal immigration judge has ended deportation proceedings against a Modesto man who spent months in custody, despite his claim that he is a U.S. citizen.
Douglas Centeno, 31, was released from an immigration jail in April after a Chronicle story attracted fresh attention from immigration officials to his case. Now the government has abandoned its efforts to deport Centeno, accepting the evidence that he is, in fact, a U.S. citizen.
"He's doing great," said Centeno's mother, Lilia Centeno. "We're happy to have him home."
Centeno's case is the latest example of an increasingly common problem, legal experts say: People wind up in immigration detention for months, or years, trying to assemble evidence to show that they don't belong there in the first place.
"If it's not clear whether you are an immigrant or a citizen, the system is set up to detain you," said Holly Cooper, a professor at the UC Davis School of Law. "The default is, you are an alien, and then from a remote detention facility you have the burden to get documents, sometimes from people who are deceased."
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Citizenship is one of the most complex areas of law, Cooper said. Some people born abroad inherit U.S. citizenship from a parent or grandparent; others gain it as children if their parents naturalize. Sometimes that citizenship is difficult to trace or document.
That was what happened for Centeno, according to his attorney, Sin Yen Ling of San Francisco's Asian Law Caucus. Born in Nicaragua, Centeno arrived in the United States legally as a 2-year-old. When he was 16, his father became a naturalized U.S. citizen, and Centeno automatically derived citizenship as well, though he never obtained a naturalization certificate to prove it.
Legal immigrants who have been convicted of certain crimes face deportation; citizens do not. And in recent years, local law enforcement agencies have increased their cooperation with immigration officials, handing over potentially deportable aliens.
Centeno landed in the custody of Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents in December after serving time for assaulting an officer.
Centeno, who suffers from schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, was walking down the street talking to himself when police stopped him, according to Ling. Centeno asked police to take him to a mental health center, and when he was refused, he had a psychotic episode and struck out, she said.
"Unfortunately, it snowballed into him being put in deportation proceedings," said Ling. "It was a huge mishandling of someone with mental health problems."
Centeno was locked up for four months. After ICE released him from custody, Ling asked the immigration court to terminate the deportation proceeding against him.
Though Centeno is still waiting for the government to issue his citizenship certificate, ICE did not oppose the termination. On May 12, Judge Lawrence DiCostanzo ended the deportation case, noting that the evidence appears to show that Centeno is a citizen.
"It's a great ending for Douglas," said Ling. "But the consequence of this broken system is that it wrongfully deports U.S. citizens. We need Congress or the Obama administration to fix the system. Advocates like us can push the envelope, but we're chipping away one case at a time."


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Jenny Bird hosts her latest sample, and we'll be there!
When Toronto-based jewelry designer Jenny Bird hosts a sample sale, we're there! As you may have read once or twice on this site, we're huge fans of Ms. Bird and her lovely baubles. Now you can get a on the JB train by adding some fantastic pieces to your own collection. With up to 70 percent off samples returning from her NYC and LA showrooms, you're sure to snatch up at least one fantastic deal. Happy shopping!
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Did you watch the Grammy Awards on Sunday? For me, the Grammys are the closest thing I get to attending an actual concert. I haven't been to a live rock concert since I was in college, nearly two decades ago. In fact, I haven't been to any type of live music event in years–unless you count my first grader's school Christmas concert.
If you are a die hard music fan, and you attend a lot of music events, then you might consider crafting a concert scrapbook. If you lack creativity and want to make scrapping as easy as possible, then your best bet is to purchase standard music theme scrapbook paper. These acid-free pages are typically 12 inches by 12 inches and feature:
*Silhouettes of musicians
*Musical notes
*Sheet music
You can also make your own music theme scrapbook paper. Doing so gives you the freedom to create eye-popping, one-of-a-kind pages filled with your favorite memorabilia. If you can't find the exact music scrapbook paper design that fits your layout, consider purchasing patterned paper to embellish with guitars, singers and microphone stickers.
Another option is to use standard scrapbook paper, and then add die-cuts, swatches of fabric, stamps and other memorabilia you have collect at each of your concerts, including ticket stubs and autographs.
If you are making a country music concert scrapbook, rahter than a pop music or rock and roll-themed book you could add your best concert photos, some bits of rope as a border, and cowboy boot stickers in a two-step or line dancing pattern. You might also consider adding some fringe, string ties or swatches from a bandana. If you want to really spice up your layout, then print out the lyrics to your favorite country music song and add them to solid color scrapbook paper. To make the page design even more conducive to your country music theme, simply add accessories, including buttons, stencils, stickers and glitter glue.
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WASHINGTON (Nov. 26)
The U. S. Library of Congress has opened a special exhibit honoring the Jewish National and University Library in Jerusalem. The exhibit will remain open until the end of December.
The Israeli library's rapid development will be illustrated, and the exhibit will include a plan for its new building now under construction. The library's manifold bibliographic and supervisory activities and the program and curricula of the recently established School of Library Science will be stressed in the materials to be shown.


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If you want to attract new blogging and acquire recognition for your PayPal development expertise then PayPal Certified Developer Program is ideal for you. All you have to do is clear an online exam that will test your understanding of PayPal and you are good to go.
Why Get Certified?
You all must be wondering what the need of getting certified is. What good it will bring into your life? Well it's simple; PayPal Certified Developers are trusted by potential clients. Merchants blindly rely on such developers whenever they need help with PayPal integrations and they know that only certified developers can deliver the desired outcome.
Being a PayPal Certified Developer you get:
- Recognition for your PayPal development skill in industry
- Instantaneous credibility with merchants who seek integration help
- Being listed in PayPal Certified Developer Directory which is used by merchants when they are looking for talented developers
- A logo of PayPal Certified Developer displayed on your webpage and emails
New Certification 2.0 Exams Available!
A chance to avail PayPal Certification is now up for grabs. There is one stage of examination, which comprises testing your knowledge in key areas regarding PayPal products and payment card industry standards. Developers need to clear all three exams to get certified. The cost of each exam is $100 USD.
The PayPal certification exams are administered by a third party testing firm. It is an online exam which contains multiple choice question, fill in the blanks, matching etc.
You need to have a PayPal account to get access to pages where non-members cannot reach. These pages contain information about the certification and other resources of PayPal Certified Developers which you need to consider before applying.
Getting Certified:
When you have made up your mind to become a PayPal Certified Developer, following are the steps to take:
1. Study for the Certified Developer Exam
The PayPal exam covers the following topics:
- Website Payments Standard
- Website Payments Pro
- Payflow Gateway products
- Payment card industry standards
To clear the exam you need to prepare. Reading material includes: Curriculum Map for documentation and topics to review. In order to deepen your knowledge regarding PayPal and to be able to answer majority of the questions in exam, you need to go through Training Library and Technical Documentation for additional resources.
2. Taking the Three Exams
In order to become a PayPal certificate holder you need to pass a set of three exams. Your queries about taking and retaking the exams, costs of each exam and how to prepare for each exam will be answered through Certified Developer FAQ's on their official webpage.
3. Completing the Certification Process
When you have attained passing marks in all the three exams, you will get an email from PayPal within a day or so, the mail will ask you to accept the certification program agreement. And that's about it- you are now a Certified Developer. You will receive your certificate if you accept and also access to your logo which you can officially display on your own webpage and profile on networking sites, your email signature, business card and wherever you please.
You can always email PayPal for further queries.


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It was the end of the road for girl group Lakoda Rayne and singer LeRoy Bell on The X Factor USA this week, with both acts sent home following a double eviction. Lakoda were eliminated after receiving the lowest amount of votes, but a shock twist saw LeRoy and Marcus Canty battle it out for survival.
Crooner LeRoy performed a stirring rendition of Don't Let Me Down by The Beatles, while Marcus opted for Christina Aguilera's 'You Lost Me'. The judges were unable to separate the two acts and sent the vote to deadlock, after which host Steve Jones told LeRoy he had pulled in fewer votes than his rival. The 59-year-old was gracious in defeat though, afterwards talking of getting a band together and heading out on the road, saying, "It was dramatic. I feel good though. I'm in a good place right now. I think I accomplished what I came to do which was to gain a lot of fans. What I wanted to do was to get my name out there so I can tour more, sell records." Despite their immediate elimination , Lakoda Rayne were also in high spirits, saying, "It would've been nice to sing for survival but whatever happens, happens...I think for everybody in this competition, it can happen at any time. And I know this isn't the end for us".
The departure of Lakoda Rayne and LeRoy Bell leaves just seven acts left in the competition, but another double elimination scheduled for next week will leave just five. Melanie Amaro, who sang R Kelly's 'The World's Greatest' on Tuesday, is the current frontrunner.


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Popular property highlights
Located in Trade Centre 2, this hotel is within a 15-minute walk of Dubai Mall and Burj Khalifa. Dubai International Convention and Exhibition Centre is 2.3 mi (3.7 km) away.
Hotel Features
Along with 3 restaurants, this hotel has a full-service spa and an outdoor pool. Free WiFi in public areas and free valet parking are also provided. Other amenities include 2 bars/lounges, a health club, and a poolside bar.
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In addition to a full-service spa, Roda Al Murooj features an outdoor tennis court and an outdoor pool. Dining is available at one of the hotel's 3 restaurants and guests can grab coffee at one of the 2 coffee shops/cafés. Guests can unwind with a drink at one of the hotel's bars, which include 2 bars/lounges and a poolside bar. Wired and wireless Internet access is complimentary.
This 5-star property offers access to a business center and meeting rooms. This business-friendly hotel also offers a children's pool, a health club, and a spa tub. For a surcharge, a shuttle from the airport to the hotel (available on request) is offered to guests. Complimentary valet parking is available on site.
- Outdoor pool
- Sauna
- Babysitting or childcare (surcharge)
- Supervised childcare/activities (surcharge)
- Airport transportation - pickup (surcharge)
- Porter/bellhop
- 24-hour front desk
- Total number of rooms - 392
- Number of floors - 14
- Hair salon
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- Number of bars/lounges - 2
- Breakfast available (surcharge)
- Number of coffee shops/cafes - 2
- Free newspapers in lobby
- Concierge services
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- Full-service spa
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- Express check-in
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- Meeting rooms 11
- Free valet parking
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- Poolside bar
- Number of restaurants - 3
- Outdoor tennis court
- Pool sun loungers
- Spa services on site
- Steam room
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- Business center
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- Family Hotel
- Outdoor pool
- Children's pool
- Free Wi-Fi
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Available in some public areas: Free WiFi , Free wired Internet
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- Room service (24 hours)
- Free weekday newspaper
- Air conditioning
- Phone
- Free bottled water
- Minibar
- Coffee/tea maker
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- Turndown service
- Private bathroom
- Bathrobes
- Free toiletries
- Hair dryer
- Bidet
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- Iron/ironing board
- In-room safe
- Television
- Desk
- Free WiFi
Where to Eat
Buffet breakfasts are available for a surcharge.
Makan - This restaurant specializes in international cuisine and serves breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Mawal Restaurant - This restaurant specializes in Middle Eastern cuisine and serves dinner only.
Anees - Onsite restaurant.
Late night fare is available from 24-hour room service.
Nearby Things to Do
An outdoor tennis court and a health club are featured at the hotel. An outdoor pool, a children's pool, and a spa tub are on site. Other recreational amenities include a sauna and a fitness center.
The recreational activities listed below are available either on site or nearby; fees may apply.
- Fitness classes on site
- Golfing on site
- Pilates classes on site
- Tennis on site
- Tennis lessons on site
- Yoga classes/instruction on site
Spa Services
Guests can indulge in a pampering treatment at the hotel's full-service spa. Services include massages. The spa is equipped with a sauna and a steam room. A variety of treatment therapies are provided, including aromatherapy.
- Steam room in spa
- Aromatherapy treatments
- Sauna in spa
- Massages
If you have requests for specific accessibility needs, please note them at check-out when you book your room.
- In-room accessibility
Hotel Policies
Check-in time ends at 8 PM
Check-in time starts at 2 PM
Special check-in instructions:
Check-out time is noon
Payment types
Children and extra beds
- Children are welcome.
- Kids stay free! Up to 2 children 5 years old and younger stay free when using existing bedding.
- Rollaway/extra beds are available for AED 120 per night.
- Cribs (infant beds) are not available.
- Pets not allowed
You need to know
Extra-person charges may apply and vary depending on property policy.
- Tourism fee: AED 60 per accommodation, per night
Optional extras
- Fee for buffet breakfast: AED 130 per person (approximately)
- Airport shuttle fee: AED 190 per vehicle
- Rollaway bed fee: AED 120 per night
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390 F2d 149 United States v. Cousins
390 F.2d 149
UNITED STATES of America, Appellee,
Clarence Ross COUSINS, Appellant.
No. 11529.
United States Court of Appeals Fourth Circuit.
Argued Jan. 10, 1968.
Decided Jan. 23, 1968, Certiorari Denied May 20, 1968, See
88 S.Ct. 1818.
Walter H. Emroch, Richmond, (Courtappointed counsel) for appellant.
Michael Morchower, Asst. U.S. Atty., (C. V. Spratley, Jr., U.S. Atty., on brief) for appellee.
Before SOBELOFF and GRAVEN, Circuit Judges, and KELLAM, District judge.
The defendant, a bankrupt, was convicted of knowingly and fraudulently concealing from the trustee property belonging to the bankrupt's estate, and of making a false oath in the bankruptcy proceedings. While the property proved to have been concealed was of minimal value, the evidence of the defendant's fraudulent intent was sufficient to sustain the conviction under 18 U.S.C.A. 152.


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good in 2012
March 2, 2013
Ah 2012, another year of non-posting (and 2013 is shaping up nicely in the same respect). Musically, as ever, there was reason for a little more optimism: new artists continue to plough the comforting furrows of melancholic synth-pop, krautish indie, soulful folk and minimal composition to keep this blog 'happy'.
Click on the Mixcloud embed above to listen. Or, if you're a VIP, wait patiently for an increasingly redundant physical copy to wing its way to you.
0:00:00 / Ryan Teague: "Shadow Play", from the album Field Drawings
Opening Teague's exquisite album, Field Drawings, "Shadow Play" suggests a hopeful awakening. The Bristolian composer's artful blend of pastoral and urban grows in confidence and resolve over its duration, but remains in thoughtful repose, just short of committed action.
0:04:08 / Metric: "Artificial Nocturne", from the album Synthetica
"I'm just as f**ked up as they say" confesses Emily Haines at the beginning of this epic slice of power pop. The driving rhythm combines with cascading chords to provide a brimming articulation of the futility of 24-hour culture – an "Artificial Nocturne".
0:09:48 / ERAAS: "A Presence", from the album ERAAS
The new project by former members of haunt-rockists Apse, ERAAS wove a neo-gothic fantasy with its first album. "A Presence" possesses a mesmeric, halting motorik beat and calls to mind "Sea Within A Sea" by The Horrors, as featured on the 2009 edition in this compilation series.
0:14:24 / Biosphere: "Blue Monday", from the magazine promo Power, Corruption & Lies Covered
Well, here's a turn up for the books. Geir Jenssen, a.k.a. Biosphere, retreats from the ice caps and tundra to cover perhaps the most sacred artefact in the electronic pop canon. By rights it shouldn't be here (it was apparently released by Mojo magazine at the end of December 2011), but it makes the cut because (a) it remains an unimpeachably good song, and (b) Jenssen didn't mess it up.
0:19:52 / Liars: "No. 1 Against The Rush", from the album WIXIW
The art-punk outfit's second album for Mute show off its electronic chops more strongly than ever. Single "No. 1 Against The Rush" blends accessibility (there are hooks!) with otherness just so.
0:25:00 / Holly Herdon: "Fade", from the album Movement
In Movement, Herndon produced a provocative work about the interplay between human and machine at an almost anatomical level. "Fade" – with its sliced vocals, chopped beats and pounded bass – provides a energising way into the darker, more visceral sounds elsewhere on the album.
0:31:15 / Grimes: "Genesis", from the album Visions
Whereas Holly Herndon evokes a sometimes fraught fusion between tissue and metal, in Grimes' music (created single-handedly by Claire Boucher) music the two forces duet in ethereal harmony. Transporting.
0:35:29 / NZCA/Lines: "Atoms & Axes", from the album NZCA/Lines
Pure nostalgia, recalling the early, innocent synth-pop of early Depeche Mode, as well as previous revivalists (as noted in several reviews) like Junior Boys. No pretensions, other than those held back in the early 1980s by Michael Lovett's (NZCA/Lines sole band member) antecedents, trapped in amber for our benefit and enlightenment 30 years later.
0:40:18 / Clark: "Black Stone", from the album Iradelphic
An acoustic interlude from Iradelphic, Chris Clark's wide-ranging tableaux of an album (though unmistakably Warp with it). As a whole the release didn't cohere for this listener, though pockets of beauty, such as "Black Stone", made it worthy of exploration.
0:42:17 / Bat For Lashes: "Laura", from the album The Haunted Man
The lead single from Natasha Khan's third album, The Haunted Man. Khan is among Britain's finest songwriters of recent years, as "Laura"'s redemptive fable (and her previous appearance in this compilation series) attests.
0:46:36 / DIIV: "Doused", from the album Oshin
Back to krautrock, back to Brooklyn (c.f. ERAAS, above – what is it about upper case, double-vowelled band names there?). But who's complaining?
0:50:12 / The Liminanas: "Salvation", from the album Crystal Anis
Effortlessly cool, unabashedly retro, seductively French – think Gainsbourg meets Spector with a banjo. Magnifique.
0:53:30 / Choir Of Young Believers: "Nye Nummer Et", from the album Rhine Gold
Jannis Noya Makrigiannis' music hit mainstream consciousness when his (still stunning) "Hollow Talk" (from 2008's This Is For The White In Your Eyes) was used as the theme for Danish/Swedish crime drama, The Bridge. I think "Nye Nummer Et" means "New Number One". And it should be.
0:58:05 / Alt-J: "Something Good", from the album An Awesome Wave
∆, to spell the band's name correctly, won the Mercury Music Prize in 2012 with their debut An Awesome Wave. "Something Good" is a sprightly ditty whose pensive quality makes it a stand-out among its more generic brethren on the album.
1:01:37 / Sharon Van Etten: "Give Out", from the album Tramp
Van Etten produced possibly the year's finest Americana in Tramp, recorded with fellow neo-folk luminaries Zach Condon (from Beirut) and Julianna Barwick among others. But it's honesty and directness, not cool collaborations, that give songs like "Give Out" their potency.
1:05:54 / Cold Specks: "Winter Solstice", from the album I Predict A Graceful Expulsion
Al Spx (real name unknown), as the creative force behind Cold Specks, created a rare wellspring of authenticity in a world where increasingly one can look only to the past for that vital state of being. Her expansive songwriting and powerful vocals blend folk, gospel, soul and working song – music to be listened to, not written about.
1:09:57 / Dustin O'Halloran: "Fragile N.4", from the album Lumiere
Lumiere, from which "Fragile N.4" was taken, was released in 2011, so is here (due to administrative error) under false pretences. But no matter: O'Halloran's rich, forgivably syrupy piece feels the right way to close.
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This is the records summary for Dec. 12.
WILLMAR — A 41-year-old man was arrested for driving after cancellation – inimical to public safety around 6:45 p.m. Wednesday near the intersection of Charlotte Street and Minnesota Avenue Southeast.
SPICER — The theft of a package that had been delivered to a residence was reported around 3:50 p.m. Wednesday along Hillcrest Avenue.
District Court, Kandiyohi County
- Martin Salinas, 18, of Willmar, was sentenced, as a juvenile, Wednesday to probation until his 19th birthday, 17 days in jail and 40 hours of community work service for a felony charge of second-degree burglary for burglarizing a Willmar residence in September 2012.
Fifteen of the days in jail can be deferred if he complies with the conditions of probation.
As part of a plea agreement, another felony for theft and misdemeanor charges of property damage and theft were dismissed.
Salinas was charged as a juvenile because the alleged crime happened before his 18th birthday. Felony charges against 16- and 17-year-olds are public record.
According to the petition, a Willmar police officer was called on Sept. 16, 2012, to a home in the northwest quadrant of the city. The resident of the home had been out the night before and arrived home to find a door open and a window damaged. Missing items included a Ruger BB gun and electronic items.
The resident knew Salinas as an acquaintance of a relative, who suspected Salinas because Salinas had come to the home the previous evening. The relative thought it was odd because Salinas hadn't come to the home very often.
Salinas was interviewed and admitted to taking the items, which were located in his home and in the home of a relative. The resident of the burglarized home later identified the items as their property.
- Eric Todd Raasch, 36, of Willmar, pleaded guilty Wednesday to a felony charge of receiving stolen property for possessing a stolen trailer valued at $7,300.
As part of a plea agreement, he will pay restitution and receive a stay of adjudication on his sentence. Under the stay, no conviction will appear on his record if he complies with the conditions of sentence. Sentencing is Jan. 13.
The charges were filed after Sept. 25, Willmar Police were called to Dahlberg Boot and Trailer along East U.S. Highway 12 and received a report that a white, 24-foot enclosed trailer had been stolen. The vehicle identification number and title number were provided to police and the trailer was entered into the automated theft reporting system database.
On Thursday, a citizen reported to law enforcement the presence of a suspicious vehicle in the area of County Road 116 and State Highway 40. The vehicle, a pickup and trailer, had pulled out of a dead end field road. An officer stopped the vehicle near U.S. Highway 12 and County Road 116 and identified Raasch as the driver. Raasch said that he'd made a deal on Craig's List to trade tools for the trailer. He was arrested and taken to the Law Enforcement Center.
The trailer was identified as the stolen trailer by its VIN number, but the sticker for the serial number was missing.
- Luis Gerardo Nieves, 17, of Willmar, pleaded guilty Thursday to a felony charge of second-degree drug possession for possessing 8 grams of methamphetamine found in his vehicle.
As part of a plea agreement, another third-degree drug possession charge and a petty misdemeanor charge for marijuana possession will be dismissed. His dispositional hearing is Jan. 13.
Felony charges against 16- and 17-year-old defendants are public information.
The second-degree possession charge was filed after a Willmar Police officer responded around 3:30 a.m. Nov. 14 to a report that three men were pounding on a citizen's door along 22nd Street Southwest. As the officer was responding, he spotted a vehicle matching the description given by the man reporting the incident.
By the time the officer was stepping out of his vehicle, a passenger in the vehicle was yelling that the driver, later identified as Nieves, was unable to breathe. The officer called for an ambulance and then saw an orange pill bottle containing what he suspected as drugs in the vehicle. Nieves continued to have difficulty breathing and was taken to Rice Hospital.
An officer went to the hospital, where Nieves said who he got the drugs from and that he'd taken some of the drugs.
The drugs were tested and determined to be 8 grams of meth.
The third-degree charge was filed after Nov. 19, when a Kandiyohi County Sheriff's deputy stopped a vehicle and identified the driver as Nieves and the passenger as a missing juvenile female. The girl was taken to the crisis center at her parent's request.
Later, a Willmar police officer was called to the center, as the girl had reported that she had drugs on her person that belonged to Nieves.
At the center, an adult serving as an interpreter for the girl's mother told the officer that Nieves had called them, asking them to get the drugs from the girl.
The girl said that Nieves had given her the drugs as they were being stopped by the deputy and that she'd hidden them on her person. She handed over two bags, one containing a green leafy substance and one containing a white powdery substance. The items were weighed and tested and determined to be 4 grams of meth and 2 grams of marijuana.
The adult called the officer after the initial report, and stated that Nieves had again called him and said the Nieves would be waiting outside of their residence to get the drugs. Officers went to the location and arrested Nieves.


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For quality of life, U.S. trails peers | Nov. 30, commentary
Other nations lack class mobility
The most obvious flaw in this analysis is the relative size of populations and demographics of the countries used in comparison. All nations cited in this study are much more homogenous than ours; no other nation has such a broad cross-section of nationalities and races as the United States.
I have lived and worked in socialized Europe, and people do not have class mobility as in the United States. It is very difficult to start a business in those countries in Europe and grow it because of the onerous cost of insurance and taxes. None of those nations has as high a percentage of business owners as the United States, and that's the reason we have such a broadly developed middle class.
The real problem is the huge increase in out-of-wedlock birth rates and teenage pregnancies among the lowest socioeconomic classes in United States over the past 45 years and the number of unskilled/undereducated workers this has produced.
Cliff Cook, St. Petersburg
GOP governors tout how great they are Dec. 2
Hardly 'bold leadership'
I've never understood how some people think your paper expresses a liberal perspective. A perfect example is your reporter's description of Republican governors showing "bold leadership."
What is so bold about giving the people who you see at country club dinners, on the golf course, and in stadium skyboxes tax breaks, or shifting public monies to their private companies? What is so bold about scapegoating unionized workers, such as teachers, police and firefighters? What is so bold about letting corporate donors write laws dismantling environmental protections that will surely add to health problems like asthma for children?
No, "bold leadership" would be challenging the status quo here in Florida by closing tax loopholes that continue to hamper our state's budget. It would reverse the failed Bush-era education policies that have benefited private companies, weakened our public schools, and wasted and misused tax dollars for over a decade.
Sarah Robinson, Safety Harbor
'Tough decisions' that hurt
I read with interest the article on the GOP governors' meeting in Orlando. The headline says it all. I could barely refrain from dropping to my knees and belting out a rendition of How Great Thou Art!
These folks are busy patting themselves on the back for their "tough decisions" while they are weakening environmental laws, stripping the budgets for schools that are educating tomorrow's citizenry, passing legislation that will restrict voting rights, and cutting funding for programs that help the poor and disadvantaged. All the while they insist on tax cuts for the very wealthy and pander to lobbyists, big business and special interests.
Our "esteemed" governor, Rick Scott, mentioned that he had to learn all about the dynamics of the Republican-controlled Florida Legislature. I maintain that he was a quick study. He has rapidly learned the ways of partisan politics and a disregard for the good of the people of his state.
I work in a volunteer organization that does our best to help the disadvantaged. We see the results of these "tough decisions" every day. The need for help is absolutely overwhelming.
Peggy Leahy, New Port Richey
In the running for postal prestige | Dec. 3
Save stamps for true heroes
As of Dec. 3 there were 4,483 American servicemen and women lost in Iraq. If anyone deserves to have their face on a stamp, it is them.
What has Lady Gaga, or some of the others under consideration, ever done for this country? Since 4,483 is too many Americans to give each a stamp, we can honor them using the insignias of the service branches. These are the true American heroes.
Joan J. Carlton, St. Petersburg
Great riches, greater poverty | Dec. 2, commentary
Children are an inspiration
Connie Schultz couldn't be more wrong. In the free market, when there is a demand for your product or services, society will pay for them. When you're an unemployed carpenter and there is no demand, society will not pay for it. These are simple rules to our economic system that Schultz refuses to accept.
What of Arielle Metzger and her brother Austin, who have found themselves in such a condition of life? I say they are blessed. They will experience life at its best and worst. They will dig their way out by sheer willpower and taste what it is truly like to be free.
I would not hesitate to turn over the keys to our republic to these two kids. They will be worthy to lead all the upper middle class kids who have an Ivy League education who have had life handed to them. America was built by those who arrived at our shores with little to no money. Poverty is a great motivator; comfort is not. Kids like this will make America strong.
Gregg Pattee, Seminole
Action targets Cohen's condo | Dec. 1
Lender, servicer to blame
I represent Mr. and Mrs. Barry A. Cohen in connection with his dispute with Wells Fargo Bank, N.A. over a mortgage on his condominium on St. Pete Beach and wish to clarify the events surrounding the dispute.
Because of apparent errors made by the servicer of this account, mortgage payments tendered by Mr. Cohen for April and May of this year were not applied to the account and in fact were returned. Mr. Cohen attempted to remedy the situation, and while this was ongoing the servicer continued to refuse to accept payments tendered by Mr. Cohen. Despite representations that the matter was being resolved, the servicer referred the matter to foreclosure counsel.
Mr. Cohen has deposited in my firm's Trust Account all payments due on this mortgage since April 2011. The servicer promised Mr. Cohen over two months ago that he would be provided the amount necessary to put the mortgage back in a current status. To date, and after repeated calls by Mr. Cohen's representative to the law firm handling the matter, he has not been provided this information.
The fact that this matter was not resolved long ago is due to delay by the lender and servicer, not by Mr. Cohen. He made diligent efforts to timely honor his obligations of this mortgage. I have seen this type of error in my practice on several occasions, including foreclosure action filed against an individual who was current in payment or tender of 100 percent of required payments. It is regrettable the Times chose to publish this story despite Mr. Cohen advising the Times that the foreclosure was filed in error.
Leon A. Williamson Jr., Tampa


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Moving to Asheville - how did you get here?
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Where did you come from? How did you move here? What would you do different now?
Dolores in Hendersonville, North Carolina
89 months ago
Johnson City, TN is also a great place to live. It is different but not in a bad way. I visit there alot since I have family there. You should check it out.
J in Asheville, North Carolina
87 months ago
Asheville is known for being very liberal politically and thus we have one of the highest tax structures in the state--our lowest bracket pays the same percentage that the highest bracket in other cities pay. The local newspaper (Citizen-Times) isn't even printed in Asheville anymore as it is cheaper and more profitable to print it in South Carolina and truck it in each morning.
The cost of living is high since it is a desirable area to live and most of the transplants come from high cost of living areas like NYC and Florida and drive up real estate prices and everything else as a result. I bought a home that was new construction 2 years ago and homes in my neighborhood are selling quickly at prices that seem to keep going up. There are well paying jobs in Asheville, but they are technical and require high levels of skill--don't expect to make six figures with a liberals arts degree because they are a dime a dozen here. 25% of the economy is healthcare and we all know doctor's make good money, which means there are plenty of high rent districts.
My advice to anyone moving to Asheville is to make sure you live outside the city limits and you'll pay much less in taxes (our property tax is $1200/yr versus $2400/yr that our friends in the city pay). The only benefit we don't have beyond voting for city officials is that we have to pay for our own trash pickup ($20/month). Asheville is a small town and those from the outside are looked down on--you'll see plenty of bumper stickers that say "Don't Move Here." My grandparents retired here 15 years ago and have a good network of friends I was able to harness (and a free place to stay temporarily) until I found a job, found a place to live, etc for a couple months. Your best bet finding a decent job in due time is going to professional networking events, which occur almost daily from lunchtime power networking meetings to Toastmasters to Business After 5.
jadead in Asheville, North Carolina
87 months ago
Thank you for an honest, intelligent and straight-forward description on Asheville. It's funny that I should read this today as I am moving out of Asheville today. I'm speaking just on my own behalf and my own experiences. I found Asheville to be christian conservative with a passive aggressive attribute about many of the people I met. It's a beautiful area and I realized this is a great place to visit. I will never live here again. In my first week here I was in a fender bender. A young girl was changing lanes and I could see I was in her blind spot and by the time I hit the horn she had already hit me. Ok, not a big deal, Exchange information and be on your way. She jumped out of the car screaming and cussing/ I put my hands up in a surrender position and said calm down and that set her off even more. I walked away and called the police. At one point she just blurted out that she just didn't like the way I looked. I thought right then, is this southern hospitality? I have heard it's legal in the state of NC town have a sawed off shotgun? If this is true, why? I have done some freelance work here and not been paid. I offered one company to bring me on for two weeks. If they like my work we can talk about my future with the company. If they don't like my work they do not owe me any money and we shake hands and part ways. I've done this before and it works great. But this person could not say yes and they could not say no. But it never happened so it doesn't matter. So, after two years of this it's absolutely necessary to move on. I wish others better luck than I had that have just arrived and are looking for a great new beginning!
mary in Johnson City, Tennessee
87 months ago
Wow! I really appreciate your input. I was thinking about moving to Asheville in a couple of years. It sounds like I need to spend a little more time there before I make any decisions.
Can you tell us where you are moving to?
Zeke in Fairmont, West Virginia
87 months ago
I moved back to Elkins WV, where it is cooler, I got friends, one health food store, a Zazen community, fishing, swimming, my gaerlic patch I set out before I left for $8hr Asheville, job that utilize my degree and 30+ yrs of experience with some monatory justification. I love watching the rain from my porch agood food and glass of wine and agood book. They say Asheville is cool but I thought it was as hot as hell, I assume. Are you in Fairmont my alma-otter?
jadead in Dickson, Tennessee
87 months ago
usc as ub California, not Carolina. Glad to hear (not that this makes me happy but that I wasn't alone) that others see through this over-rated and over-hyped up town. I was almost embarrassed for Mission when they interviewed me for a position that I honestly was the perfect match for... compensation must have been addressed at least 15 times initiated each time by Mission. I answered appropriately and went into the there are other important factors I need/consider when interviewing... the director was in agreement mode. Meanwhile, they're trying to buy champagne on a beer budget. Now with a town that claims to have everything including God taking extra special care of them it literrally became a challenge to get up in the morning and generate interest once again from a town of people who didn't even have the professional courtesy to say thanks but no thanks. I was perpetually left in the dark. As far as grocery chains go Ingles beat out the top chains in profit. I know they give back to the community and this is great but create jobs! Then this "we don't want chains in here. Guess what folks, your third walmart is a major league retail chain. The city of Los Angeles fights them tooth and nail every time walmart campaigns to open a store in LA. In fact, the entire state of CA only has 53 walmarts and Asheville is building their third. Am I missing something about this or is it just me?
Dolores in Hendersonville, North Carolina
86 months ago
West Virginia sounds a good place to live. As long as there are mountains aplenty I am happy and I know there are some there.....beautiful. I guess I am a lucky Ashevillian, being born and raised here. I have family here with homes that are paid for so that makes it easier. Asheville definitely needs to do something about the high cost of living here and the pay rates!
86 months ago
I'll mention again, the cost of living in a small town like asheville is atrocious. It's big city cost of living. This pleases the wealthy b/c it will keep a lot of the riff faff out, crime is low and if you're an outdoor persoj, great plsce. Let me put it this way; when Thomas Jefferson was suggested to right the Declaration of Independence... (God save us all) was a blundering mistake. First of all. it is so misleading that I'll wager 90% of all americans, (by the way, I was born,raised and educated in Boston and not a complete dummy to this)have no idea the true meanings in the constitution. "All Men are created equal. Tony Robbins could not sell that thought to0 the deaf today. It simply wasn't true, it referred to ones social clas which varied vastly much like today and here's the match thrown on the gas, Jefferson himself had slaves and believed in having them as his right. He obviously suffered from Grandiose Delusions. FREEDOM of SPEECH maybe the closest to what it reads BUT you only had it if you were not disruptive, offend anyone, what you have to say is best to be what I think... there are consequences to "FREEDOM of SPEECH" Lenny Bruce could fill you in on lots of those consequences if he were alive. One arrest was for saying "cocksucker" on stage. Hold on just for a second, Im censored nauseous!" "Some want a full censorship, others a half censorship; some want three-eighths freedom of the press, others none at all. God save me from my friends!"
zu_zuz_petals@*****.*** in Asheville, North Carolina
82 months ago
lol... i sure dont hear anything good about asheville except the mountains.. and man didnt make them.. but they sure created a Hades... i fell sorry for the real poor who cant move...im poor.. but.. nothing i have is like worth anything. so..id just take what is and move.. which i may...unemployed for 2 yrs.. laid off... nothing here that will fit a single mothers schedule of a Down syndrome lil girl....
jadead in Van Nuys, California
82 months ago
Asheville, don't let that "southern hospitality" fool you. I did meet some very cool people there, it is pretty, there's enough to do if you put your best foot forward. Now the ugly; I've been gone for a while and I still carry this haunting feeling about the place. I never heard so many people say, "you know me, I tell it like it is" then they never do. It's very strange. If you're considering moving there for employment I can hook you up with someone that coaches people one on one on finding jobs. Very cool guy.
jennifer in Asheville, North Carolina
81 months ago
Asheville has gotten a lot of hype and honestly I do not know why. It is beautiful in the Summer and Fall, a great vacation spot. That is it. Living here is hell. There are no jobs and little possibility to advance if you have a job. It seems once you move here you are stuck in your own little vacant spot on the map. Hidden from the rest of the world. It is mostly about who you know and how many butts you are willing to kiss to get somewhere. I have two degrees and cannot find a job anywhere. I am looking at 8.00 hour jobs too..not high paying jobs. My boyfriend and I are fed up. We want to leave but our families are here and want us to stay. I don't know how much longer I can make them happy and be miserable.
jadead in Valencia, California
81 months ago
My heart goes out to you. Also to the people who do love it there and want you to as well. I couldn't handle two things. In fact it was such a turn off that I became spiteful and my girlfriend at the time became really bitter towards me. As a result we split up. For me Asheville is beautiful. It pretty much stops there.When President Obama took a weekend vacation there didn't seem to be any kind of "special" planning, events, showcasing... nothing at all. Perhaps the President requested this? The people are very nice on the surface but it won't go deeper than the first layer of skin. There is still a bowl full of ignorance and prejudice there from my perception and "southern hospitality" is a joke. On the opposite end of the nice people I also came across some of the rudest, meanest, inconsiderate a-holes ever. Derogatory ethnic slurs were tossed around in public as though they were challenging anyone to step up and say something. Jobs was my breaking point. Unbelievable is all I can say. My girlfriend at the time had her steady job for 16 yrs and just didn't get it. This is usually the case with people that are gainfully employed. I have always worked a career job, paid a salary and with full compensation I frequently went into 6 figures. I could not get a minimum paying job OR could I get them to talk to me. Asheville is so overrated that it should be a crime. I knew this girl all my life and we pretty much can not stand each other today. Thank you very much Asheville. Check this out... You will probably have to cut & paste into your browser.
Hugh X in Wilmington, Delaware
77 months ago
Having read all of the comments. My company has offered me a promotion to Morganton NC which is near Asheville. I am a married black male and my wife would have to find work once we got there. So can someone honestly tell me if I need to pass on this promotion or should I try to look on the bright side and make it work
jadead in Manhattan Beach, California
77 months ago
I moved there with high hopes and I was never so humiliated and let down in my life! I live in LA, a world city filled with more diversity than one can fathom and yes, we have our problems but always seem to manage a way to find the light. Asheville in my opinion is a good ole boys club that is behind about 10 - 15 yrs. A quick example; I attended an invite only art show to raise funds for the hungry/homeless. Maybe 200 - 250 ppl attended this. Not looking for it but just an innocent observation, the attendees were all middle aged, overweight, white ppl with food dropping off their plates as they ate, talked and drank. It looked bad. Then I noticed that the only minorities there were two Black Women. They were there to empty the trash liners. That bothered me a lot, I mentioned something to the girl I went with and she just blew it off. I have heard people refer to Jewish ppl in ethnic slurs out loud in public. I was selling something one time and when this native spit out something close to English regarding the price he commented; "I'm gonna Blah you down boy" and I just said calmly; "go ahead and give it your best shot"... he never got it. My roots are of a Yankee, I have been living in LA for 20 yrs and I am certain they disliked me even more. I met a few good ppl there but overall, it's a depressing place to live unless you want to sit on the porch and watch trees grow. And someday, that may be just what I want to do! I am a white collar worker, have always done well, worked for a couple of the best companies in Los Angeles yet I couldn't get a job at Home Depot, Wal Mart, Lowe's, any of their infamous health-care facilities... wasn't a member of the gang. You may want to check this out...
jadead in Manhattan Beach, California
77 months ago
Tied for 4th in the country as worst city to find a job.
ReloWife in Asheville, North Carolina
77 months ago
Hugh X in Wilmington, Delaware said: Having read all of the comments. My company has offered me a promotion to Morganton NC which is near Asheville. I am a married black male and my wife would have to find work once we got there. So can someone honestly tell me if I need to pass on this promotion or should I try to look on the bright side and make it work
As a well educated professional/relo wife on my 18th month unemployed in WNC, I stongly suggest your family to plan on:
dodgerfan in Asheville, North Carolina
73 months ago
I too, moved to Asheville from southern CA. I wish I were back in CA, but we are victims of the current unemployment crisis. Husband found job, but I cannot. This is humiliating - applying for and practically begging for the 8 dollar an hour part-time job, then hearing that someone else is more suited for the job. Maybe I should give up, and spend my time hanging with the hippies.
Persy in Wheeling, West Virginia
73 months ago
Hello all. I've been reading through all of these comments and it has really scared me! I have lived everywhere (military) and am now finishing up a nursing degree in WV. I was seriously considering moving to Asheville to work at the VA Hospital there.
MG in Asheville, North Carolina
72 months ago
CS in Asheville, North Carolina
72 months ago
Thank God! Finally ... a, "place" where people are telling the TRUTH ABOUT ASHEVILLE!!! I am a native of WNC, although I hate to admit it, but after living abroad for several years, coming back here was THE BIGGEST MISTAKE I EVER MADE! I've seen it a million times, people come here believing all the BS and hype they are putting out there in the magazines and such (just advertising-happy town, PLEASE!). And then, reality hits. Like me, I had money when I came back here (alot), now I'm broke and cannot EVER make the money I had back again. I am desparate! I know it's bad in FL, but it's always sucked here... nobody will pay you a living wage... people come here and get stuck... in hell... with a bunch of idiots that don't have a clue as to why you are sooooo frustrated and depressed when: you can't make enough money to live on, everything is rediculously high (hyped), everyone you meet lies to you, yor they're just idiots, you can't get anything done, they don't show up, even if you're going to pay them, the people are so anti-social you can't make any friends, and forget being single and trying to find a man with a brain, any testosterone, any life in them at all, or that you can have an intelligent conversation with even... OMG!!! I've actually prayed to die for the last couple years - no job for almost 2 years (never had a problem before in my life - I have two degrees, I'm bilingual English/Spanish, AND I have 20 years experience in Marketing, Advertising, Sales and Real Estate!). Add to that the insecure people on any min. wage job you might be lucky enough to get (yea, I said lucky) because you might have a little something more going for you than they do and, well, I've said it many times... I'd rather DIE than live (or whatever you want to call it) here for ONE MORE DAY! Because the truth for me is, you might as well be dead. I hope I've made myself clear about Asheville. I should know.
Jadead in Culver City, California
72 months ago
You sound like you're going through exactly what I went through. Get in touch with me and let's talk if you're into it. Otherwise, all the best!
Tired of transplants complaining in Concord, North Carolina
71 months ago
I have been reading all these comments and want to ask people who are moving or have moved into Asheville what were your expectations? Were you all sitting in So. California, searching for a pretty or "cool"place to live, and figured since things weren't working out for you somewhere else, you could succeed in Asheville? (and how thought out was your idea to move 2,000 away? Asheville is just like any other city in the US (and perhaps the one you left). Unemployment is UP everywhere, manufacturing gone, what did you think Asheville was going to offer you in your life that you couldn't find, make or create anywhere else. I would suggest you all look in the mirror before you start blaming a town for the life you created. I don't even live in Asheville, but I do live in NC. Think about what you can bring to any city, location or job before you start complaining about what you are not GETTING.
SK in Candler, North Carolina
71 months ago
Drivers here are terrible. I've been here for four years and it gets worse every time. Daily wrecks on the Smoky Park bridges and other spots. In NY we have respect for each other on the road and can stay civil in traffic. Not here. Asheville claims to be a green city - good luck finding a sidewalk, or even a shoulder, 90% of the time. Massive amounts of thug gangster wanna be teens and conceited hipsters populate the city. It's hard to make friends here, even if you are accepting and care-free. And of course, don't expect a job. Come to visit, but think twice about relocating.
JJman in Lexington, North Carolina
69 months ago
You guys sound spoiled. You should try living in a broke town with no jobs, no good restaurants, and not just some, but all rednecks. Yay, we have $400 per month rent for clean apartments. You know why the rent is high? It's called demand. Try Davidson County, NC some time whiners.
TuxMom in Miami Beach, Florida
69 months ago
I'm visiting this coming weekend with a thought of relocating as well. I'm in wellness industry. There definitely seem to be more negative people responding and I'm wondering, "is it because negative people like to complain about stuff and people happy there don't have time/desire"? Hoping to get a feel for the place this weekend when I visit. Any enlightenment will be appreciated. Luckily don't have to make any decisions right away, but am confused at all these negative threads? It looks awesome on paper: happiest place, most outdoorsey place, freakiest place, etc. If you go to Wikipedia it lists all the positives?
Landry in Asheville, North Carolina
67 months ago
In terms of social politics: It's very liberal, but economically it's got a large conservative streak as well. Don't work at Mission Hospital (my sister hates it there). The VA is hard to find work in, but the benefits are wonderful if you can. In terms of scenery and eatery, there is just so very much to do, visit, discover. I love it! I think it's worth the fight. :)
lally7466 in Miami, Florida
66 months ago
Host said: Where did you come from? How did you move here? What would you do different now?
i have read all of the posts,looked at them from both sides, and decided alot of folks never gave asheville a chance.I have spent the last 3 years chasing my ex and my son from the dominican republic to miami with only the lawyers happy about it.I think your town with all of its different beliefs will welcome my Maine plates and my ex and my kids. and by the way whenb i fell for asheville,it was 99, durind my Thruhike of theAT so welcome me and I will be Forever Grateful.....
Scarlet in Asheville, North Carolina
66 months ago
I live in North Asheville and it's awesome. I am a veteran so have lived in many different places and so far, this is the best. I am also a transplant from CA. I lived in SoCA not too long ago and paid twice the rent I pay here for the same size apartment. My husband had to work two low-paying jobs, while I worked another and we still didn't make enough money to pay the bills so I have no idea what the people from SoCA are complaining about.
carol in Bakersville, North Carolina
66 months ago
How does anyone get hired at Mission? I have 30 years experience, and have applied for multiple RN positions, and all I get is an email saying they chose someone else-and I am fully qualified for these jobs. They don't even let you talk to a real nurse recruiter-it's all done over the internet. I have always been hired immediatly at every nursing interview I have ever had, and I am totally amazed at the difficulty trying to get hired when jobs are posted! I was told it was such a great place to work. Anybody have a clue?
66 months ago
I started this thread and I started it for all the wrong reasons. Asheville, NC is a great place to live. If you're moving there for whatever reason be prepared to do whatever it takes to make it work for you. Be positive, kind, friendly and always see the best there is there. Good things will come your way. Trust me, I wish I had. Gary Piano
nomatterwhereugo in Austin, Texas
65 months ago
I think towns that rely heavily on tourism for income will have a lot more PR going on than others, meaning, it will be hyped to the hilt to draw in visitors. I love the western NC mountains and have considered moving there but I imagine the negative posts here have a lot of truth having lived in another small town before in a conservative state. Like anywhere, it is what you make of it - you want friends? you have to go out and social. But also I agree that smaller college towns relying heavily on the "arts" will have drawbacks - no work, some crime, people upset that outsiders are coming. This is no different in any small town. I live in austin, tx and heard so much good about it too, but a lot of what people are saying here on this post could apply to austin as well. I hate it here. I am moving back to CO. Good luck all and thank you for the noes perspectives.
Elana Santoro in Asheville, North Carolina
65 months ago
I have a lovely house in the mountains here in Western NC - and I love it! It couldn't be better! I have had no problem meeting people. I am associated with the arts, and find a thriving community of collegial people to hang with. I love the outdoor lifestyle, and find a thriving business community in my field. I can't say enough good about Asheville - yes, perhaps it is a "young" oriented area - but whether mid 20's (my age) or 50+, the young mindset would be appealing!
Elana Santoro in Asheville, North Carolina
65 months ago
PS I totally agree with Scarlet - it's like ANY forum - people who are negative tend to post. People who are not are busy and happy and not generally posting. It's like on amazon - the ratings are always skewed by the fact that if you have a complaint with a product you jump on and post -- but if you like a product, you rarely if ever do. I agree that in MY circle of friends, we all love it.
missmarymac in Rossville, Georgia
63 months ago
I am an single 51-year-old woman thinking of moving to Asheville. I just heard good things about it. I work from home (telecommute), so finding a job isn't necessary. :). My question is, what is the best area to live in? I will be coming up there to visit in a few weeks.
Mahalo in Colorado Springs, Colorado
62 months ago
jadead in Dickson, Tennessee said: usc as ub California, not Carolina. Glad to hear (not that this makes me happy but that I wasn't alone) that others see through this over-rated and over-hyped up town. I was almost embarrassed for Mission when they interviewed me for a position that I honestly was the perfect match for... compensation must have been addressed at least 15 times initiated each time by Mission. I answered appropriately and went into the there are other important factors I need/consider when interviewing... the director was in agreement mode. Meanwhile, they're trying to buy champagne on a beer budget. Now with a town that claims to have everything including God taking extra special care of them it literrally became a challenge to get up in the morning and generate interest once again from a town of people who didn't even have the professional courtesy to say thanks but no thanks. I was perpetually left in the dark. As far as grocery chains go Ingles beat out the top chains in profit. I know they give back to the community and this is great but create jobs! Then this "we don't want chains in here. Guess what folks, your third walmart is a major league retail chain. The city of Los Angeles fights them tooth and nail every time walmart campaigns to open a store in LA. In fact, the entire state of CA only has 53 walmarts and Asheville is building their third. Am I missing something about this or is it just me?
Actually there are 183 Walmarts in California.
Elana Santoro in Asheville, North Carolina
62 months ago
You know, the problem with a board like this is that people reading it need to understand that every person has a different view of "their world" based on MANY things. Also, I think we all know that folks who are unhappy with something (whether it is an appliance from a local store, or a book on Amazon) will post more quickly than people who are happy with their purchase or surroundings. I too am a "transplant" and couldn't be happier. It's gorgeous here. People are amazingly nice and friendly. I don't need to have everyone around me be the same mindset in politics - so liberal or conservative is not a basis for my friendships, honestly. To each his own. If an employer is not to someone's liking, you look elsewhere. I have a great job, great friends, and find a zillion fun things to do. I love the area I came from -- and I love it here also. The beauty of the mountains, the small towns, hiking, rafting....So, sorry, I hear you, and I am really sorry you don't enjoy it here...but I surely do! So don't make snap judgements..."One man's trash is another man's treasure"... :)
Elana Santoro in Asheville, North Carolina
62 months ago
Wow. :( I absolutely had no intention of "flaunting my assets". I was simply pointing out that each person views things differently and with varying perspectives. The area (Asheville and surroundings) is amazingly beautiful and offers many many things to do especially if you're into outdoorsy and active pursuits. Most of my friends - I have met here. I made a conscious decision to meet people, to find fun things to do, to join groups with like minded pursuits (biking, hiking, arts, etc.). I work hard, and enjoy my work. I did likewise in NYC or MD when I lived there. I'm really very sorry, but I don't necessarily think that because some people have "not made it here" that it is the fault of the area. Nor any one employer, nor the politics. Some people don't make it in NYC. Or St Louis. Asheville is NOT a panacea for the good life - it's hard work and effort as it is everywhere. I have been happy in varying degrees when I had a job, didn't have a job, had a significant other, didn't have a significant other, etc. Life is a gift and I try to enjoy each day to the fullest - anywhere.
Elana Santoro in Asheville, North Carolina
62 months ago
Might I also add - my apologies for using the word "quickly". If you read that statement in the context I meant it -- it would have been much more clear if I had said "People with negatives will be more likely to post" (And I mean this in the best way - they often want the "buyer to beware" as I assume you do). I did not mean to imply anyone posted comments that were anything less than well thought out and/or well considered - including my own. Thank you for your perspective on my reply.
Boomer in Asheville, North Carolina
60 months ago
Mona in Miami, Florida said: I have read most of the comments, including the last one. If people who have positive things to say do not feel the need to post them then that tells you a lot about the character of that person or people. When you care about something and you are a caring person you share it, so this says to me that people in Asheville are self-centered and maybe think the world revolves around them. I am a city girl and would never ever consider moving to a small town, and the mountains I can only handle on vacation. I am going for a vacation to Asheville this weekend and was very excited about it until I read this. Will feel sympathetic towards the people there as most seem very unhappy, but at least I will know why.
Hey Mona,
Don't be alarmed. Asheville is a tourist area so it attracts dreamers who pack it all in and head for the hills without a real plan ignorant of due diligence. It happens in Hawaii, Sedona, Lake Tahoe, etc. Reality kicks them in the pants then they blame the place because they didn't do their homework. If you noticed the posts from these disenfranchised folks, they're leaving Asheville. It's unfortunate their dreams did not materialize, for whatever reason. Asheville is a dynamic, diverse and tolerant place. It is incredibly beautiful and this weekend, you'll see fall colors starting to emerge. Safe travels...
Unix Brat in Asheville, North Carolina
60 months ago
There are pros and cons here, just like anywhere.
For those that were born and raised in the area, the sentiment can be "the less transplants the better." For the most part, this area is still getting used to developers coming in from other parts and destroying our land and traditions.
The end result has been uber-inflated housing prices and taxes. Destruction of natural habitat for our critters. More bears breaking into houses and into cars looking for food. And don't get me started on how much time I spend every week dealing with the erosion that threatens my house's foundation and construction runoff clogging my pond...I used to have fish that helped feed my family but no more.
Since working wages have not kept pace, poverty for locals grows.
Despite those issues, I love it here, love my community, this is home.
Honestly, if a transplant moves here and doesn't feel accepted, bear in mind that mountain folk were here first and figured out how to survive in harmony with the rugged terrain. But now we see it being destroyed by outsiders. Hence the cold shoulder.
Boomer in Asheville, North Carolina
60 months ago
Unix Brat in Asheville, North Carolina said: There are pros and cons here, just like anywhere.
Actually, the Cherokee Indians were here first.
Unix Brat in Asheville, North Carolina
60 months ago
Boomer in Asheville, North Carolina said: Actually, the Cherokee Indians were here first.
Yeah, the Cherokee ARE the mountain people.
I wasn't referring to the Scotch-Irish transplants. But those folks were OK in my book.
Boomer in Asheville, North Carolina
60 months ago
I just hope developers are kept at bay. Too many places have been ruined by their greed. Most cities across the country look the same now. It's a gawdawful shame.
Unix Brat in Asheville, North Carolina
60 months ago
I live near the Qualla Boundary, and now it seems even the tribe's leaders make their decisions based on greed and profit.
They're gonna tear up more beautiful land just to build an amusement park. "This will add 200 jobs." Great. 200 minimum wage jobs. Don't know if it's really some outsider using the Cherokee Nation as a front man for some scheme that's being funded in part by Federal tax credits.
I used to work for the tribe, but never again. The leaders don't see past their wallets, I fear.
My ex-hub works for the tribe now (at the gaming commission), gets treated better than I. Perhaps because he is male and went to law school.
Boomer in Asheville, North Carolina
60 months ago
Everyone wants jobs. But at what cost and where does it end? Greed has no conscience. Yeah, you can "bet" the amusement park is a bad idea. I'm saddened it's happening. The tribal leaders, like leaders everywhere, struggle to find balance. Be aware of greedy leaders.
Unix Brat in Asheville, North Carolina
60 months ago
Joe Gagill in Monticello, New York said: Your right, most cities across this beautiful country do look the same now.
By choice I have never watched Deliverance. But if it were written by someone in Hollywood I would take the stereotypes with a grain of salt.
Mountain people, in my mind, know how to live off the land. Losing electricity for a week during a snowstorm won't faze us--we're prepared. The history and traditions are rich. Not used to the transience and generic-ization that the rest of America has grown up on. Mountain folks' distrust of outsiders --when it exists --is a product of living in geographically secluded areas.
The isolation of Cherokee and Scotch-Irish migrants have resulted in a unique culture.
I'm an hour from Asheville, so my comments don't necessarily apply to the big city.
Glad you asked, Joe G.
Unix Brat in Asheville, North Carolina
60 months ago
Boomer in Asheville, North Carolina said: Everyone wants jobs. But at what cost and where does it end? Greed has no conscience. Yeah, you can "bet" the amusement park is a bad idea. I'm saddened it's happening. The tribal leaders, like leaders everywhere, struggle to find balance. Be aware of greedy leaders.
You're right. And earlier, when I was dumping on outside developers, I was momentarily forgetting what's happening in my own backyard.
While so many locals are struggling, the one percenters' economy is really booming. Still bulldozing land and building their vacation homes.
Joe Gagill in Monticello, New York
60 months ago
Thank you for your answer.
I actually have a relative who has a Bed & Break down there.
What made Asheville very popular to outsiders was the fact that for a number of years it made the list of the "10 best places to live."
Have a good day and good luck in your job search/new business.
Boomer in Asheville, North Carolina
60 months ago
You're right. It also appears in most books on the best places to retire in the U.S. The top fifty places... The top 100 places... The Top places.. There's a reason for these accolades. And if the economy of Asheville could support a influx of all the people who chose to live here, it would have to transform itself to just another American city, with all the varied accoutrements from which the tourists are attempting to flee.
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