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They're the ones who fashion weeks are organised for, so we asked buyers to weigh in on the winter/festive installment of the LFW.
Each year, 'The Source' at Lakme Fashion Week is a place buzzing with activity. Primarily, that's because these designer stalls are where the actual business of fashion takes place.
It is here that designers come face-to-face with buyers who are interested in their collections. These could be celebrities, store owners from different cities or common people, ie fashionistas who have a sound sense of fashion and are looking at something exclusive for themselves.
Generally, buyers visit the stalls, browse the line and exchange numbers for future correspondence. The negotiations for pricing and availability happen much later. We caught up with three prospective buyers to get a perspective of what they're looking at and what ideas they share about fashion.
Ritie Duggal, Owner of Chamomile in Lower Parel, Mumbai
What kind of clothes are you currently looking to buy from the winter collection?
Since the festive season will be out soon, people will be shopping for festive clothes, which are traditional yet eclectic in fashion. I am trying to see if I can find something interesting along those lines.
Can you name some designers whose collections you thought were impressive so far?
I quite liked Archana Kochhar and Payal Singhal.
According to you, what kind of colours are trending this season?
I think corals, hues of blue, peach and green are trending. Among the GenY, vibrant colours are back. Youngsters are going in for a bold look by sporting bright colours. It's becoming like a statement now.
What fashion tip would you like to share with the GenY?
I think the key is to be comfortable in what you wear. You will naturally look fashionable.
Image: Ritie Duggal, Owner of Chamomile in Lower Parel, Mumbai
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'I found that some of them are repetitive and the same as last year'
Jharna Kothi, owner of store Kothi in Santacruz, Mumbai
What is your impression of the winter collections so far?
Well, it's just the first day. Unfortunately, I still haven't got the winter feeling in any collection yet. So far they have been like regular collections. In fact, I found that some of them are repetitive and the same as last year.
Do you find any difference between the GenNext designers and the established ones?
Oh yes. The new entrants are really good. I particularly liked Prashant, Liz Paul, Payal Singhal and Manjaree Jindal. The established designers are also good, but they are mostly repetitive and have nothing really new to showcase. I find that the GenNext designers are working hard and that shows in their creations. They are promising.
What about the pricing? Do you see any change in the pricing this season?
(Laughs) The prices are definitely getting higher by the day.
What kind of clothes does your store deal with? What is the average price range for designer wear?
We have all kinds of clothes for all kinds of people. In my store, you will find tunics and designer tops starting from Rs 3,000 onwards.
What kind of clothes are you currently looking to buy from the winter collection?
I came here looking for bridalwear in the Rs 30-35,000 range. So far, I haven't decided which ones to go for. I hope I will find something interesting within Rs 40,000, although my store has collections that are priced upto a lakh. Some of the collections I saw here are priced really high, but I personally feel that very few people in our country would be willing to shell out more than Rs 40,000 for bridalwear.
What kind of clothes have been selling lately?
Anarkalis or the empire cuts are selling bigtime. They are all over the place and people are buying like crazy. Layers in clothing are in. Besides, you will see a lot of them going for drapes, loose harem pants, patiala pants.
What colours are in this season?
Green and maroon are in vogue, especially if it's a bridal collection. Besides, gold is an alltime favourite. It adds to the glam and glitz factor.
Image: Jharna Kothi, owner of store Kothi
'I checked some of the stalls and I think they are too small'
Damayanti Raje Bhonsale, owner of store Araliya in Pune
What is your impression of the winter collection so far?
I checked some of the stalls and I think they are too small. But some of the new designer collections are good.
Which designers appealed to you so far?
I quite liked Farah Sanjana from the GenNext lineup. I also liked Sitara, Manjaree Jindal, Paromita Banerjee.
What is it about young designers that makes them click?
These are young, talented minds who are ready to explore and experiment with fashion. If you look at their designs you will realise that they have put in their best and the creativity is startling to say the least. The only advantage that established designers have is the commercial sense of design. They already know what sells. For the young designers, it's just a matter of time and with this amount of hard work, the time won't be too far.
What are the colours that are trending this season?
Bright pinks and orange.
What suggestion would you like to make to young designers?
I think as designers you need to be aware about the global trends. Especially, with high street brands available locally, one also needs to be aware of the competition around and design clothes accordingly. Also keep a track of the weather in the market you are dealing with, so that you offer the right design solutions with fashion.
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The girls placed fifth and the boys were eighth. Six swimmers earned All-League status based on their times in individual events. They were Lauren Rudnick in the 200-yard individual medley and 100 butterfly, Kimberly English in the 200 freestyle, Sarah Merodio in the 100 freestyle, Allison Hanson in the 500 freestyle, Tim Peterson in the 500 freestyle, and Owen Lawler in the 100 breaststroke and the 200 freestyle.
The 4x100 girls' relay squad of Merodio, Rudnick, Hanson and Liz Fricker finished fourth.
"This has been a very successful season for us," head coach Agustin Merodio said. "We have never had a girl finish as high in the standings as Lauren Rudnick (fifth overall in points). I am very proud of them. They practiced hard and their hard work paid off. We are in a tough league with some very large schools but we managed to hold our ground."
All of the combined swim team members are scholar athletes.
Unfortunately the Clear Lake-Kelseyville squad is losing a half-dozen swimmers to graduation -- Connor Disney, Andres Tejeda, Sarah Merodio, Allison Hanson, Asia Jones and Eric Miller. Merodio will be heading to Monmouth College on a swimming scholarship.
On a positive note, swim team members recently learned that they would be returning to the Westshore Pool for a summer program that offers swimming lessons to ages 3-18. More competitive swimmers are invited to compete on the Lake County Channel Cats team.
"The entire swim team, board members and Channel Cat families would like to thank Quail Run Fitness Center for hosting us this spring," coach Merodio said. "Without their support we would not have had a high school swim team."
Added Merodio, "We would like to extend our deepest appreciation to the City of Lakeport and the Lakeport Unified School District for helping us get back in the water at Westshore so that we can continue our mission of teaching the children of Lake County how to swim safely."
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ST. PETERSBURG — Ron Martin was tired of working for others.
A new career of flipping real estate seemed foolproof.
The Texas home builder purchased a small house in Childs Park in April at a tax sale before he toured the property.
He staked a "For Sale" sign outside the boarded-up house and waited for bidders. Weeks passed. His tax bills piled up; his dreams of self-made riches started to fade.
No one wanted to buy the house.
Martin couldn't even give it away.
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Months shy of his 50th birthday, Martin was laid off by a construction company after 10 years on the job. Like millions of Americans, he had gambled his future on years of steady, loyal work and lost out to a comatose economy.
A course on how to make money on houses sold during tax deed sales brought him to Florida last year after he was told that Florida real estate was the best investment. He purchased the Childs Park home for $7,300. A steal, he thought. The Pinellas County Property Appraiser's Office valued it at $57,700.
"I was hoping to sell the house quickly for a small profit, not to make a killing or anything," he said.
Martin thought Childs Park was an up and coming neighborhood but soon learned of the area's reputation as a drug haven.
When there were no takers, he offered to give the house to some investor friends. They declined.
He sent a letter to the city last month: "My company, RSM Ventures, LLC, is going out of business and I would like to donate a residential property to the city of St. Petersburg. ... If the city is unwilling to accept the donation, I would appreciate any referrals you could provide for any organizations that might have interest."
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The brown house at 3468 17th Ave. S has boarded-up windows and doors, a few shattered windows and a wide front porch. It's infested with fleas and barely 330 square feet.
The back and front yards are small, but big enough to host a family barbecue or pitch a tent for the kids.
From the street, it looks like one of the nicest houses on the block.
St. Petersburg will occasionally get requests from desperate property owners looking to unload bad investments, said Bruce Grimes, the city's real estate and property management director.
"There are people from out of the area who on occasion will buy properties and they don't really know the status," he said. "It may become more commonplace now that this market is not as quick for people to buy them and rehab them and sell them."
Grimes said he doubts the city will accept the troubled property. A new owner would have to pay to demolish the house and obtain a clear title because it was purchased in a tax deed sale. Besides, "it's a small house," Grimes said.
Martin turns 51 next month. He no longer dreams of a future in real estate.
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A record number of beaches and bathing spots in England and Wales have reached the highest standards for water quality this year.
A total of 425 beaches and bathing waters (or 86.2 per cent of all sites) met the higher 'guideline' standards set down by the European Commission in 2010, new figures show.
That is a rise from 80.2 per cent last year and a huge increase from 1990 figures when fewer than a third of bathing sites made the grade.
However, ten of the 493 bathing spots monitored failed to meet minimum standards, the figures from the Environment Agency also show.
They include Church Beach in Lyme Regis, Dorset, Seaton and Instow in Devon, Saltburn and Staithes, North Yorkshire, and St Annes and Heysham Half Moon Bay in Lancashire.
Tougher rules come into force from 2015 but more than 80 per cent of beaches in England and Wales already meet those standards.


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which would you do?? We had some expenses that we just can't cover and need some extra cash. Either way, we are borrowing from our future. I know everyone says don't take out 401k, bc of the 10% penalty and taxes. We don't pay any income federal taxes (other than ss tax) so we'll just have the 10% penalty, afaict. Home equity loan will increase our monthly payment, which will be hard to manage and we're borrowing for 30 years so interest adds up, ya know??
Neither one is a good solution. How much money are we talking about here? I think I'd do my darndest to come up with money some other way - sell stuff, take on a part-time job, beg and borrow from family members.
As you said, borrowing short-term funds for 30 years is a really expensive loan; taking from your 401K robs you of the earning power of that savings.
Good luck - and however you manage to get out of this jam, I hope you can avoid getting into it again in the future.
If the chips are down, the buffalo is empty.
We need about $10. We made a poor financial decision with our emergency/longterm savings, which I will regret until the day I die. It's on the level of using the whole fund to buy lotto tickets. Live and learn. Sigh.
10 grand that is. not 10 dollars.
not actual lotto tickets I imagine. Don't go the house route. Just cash out your 401k and rebuild it. Honestly the way things are going nothings a sure thing no matter what and don't kick yourself for a poor decision, move on!
Instead of a whole refi, could you do a HELOC? That way you could pay back as quickly as possible, instead of over 30 years. And no penalties. I know they are harder to do than a refi though, ironically.
Also, even if you don't ordinarily owe income taxes, wouldn't a 401K cashout change your income picture so that you might owe?
With the current state of the housing market, I think I would be more inclined to do the 401(k) withdraw. You will be panelized but at least you won't be upside down and stuck in your home (assuming a refinance with $10K extra would make you upside down). Plus, if you refinance I believe you will have to pay closing costs too. There's really not a good answer. Either way you're going to end up paying interest or taxes.
Can you take out a loan from your 401(k)?
Actually you can do a no closing cost loan. That's what we've done. Your interest rate is maybe 1/4 point higher, but you can refi without financial consequences (aside from extending the term of the loan). You do have to pay prepaid interest and taxes, but your escrow account is refunded so you are "whole" after a couple of months.
With the current state of the housing market, I think I would be more inclined to do the 401(k) withdraw. You will be panelized but at least you won't be upside down and stuck in your home (assuming a refinance with $10K extra would make you upside down). Plus, if you refinance I believe you will have to pay closing costs too. There's really not a good answer. Either way you're going to end up paying interest or taxes.
thanks for responses. We could do a heloc, but then our payment would go up, which is not good. We are budgeted down to the penny....we refinanced a year ago to save $100/month, but then our taxes went up (what's up w/ squeezing middle class out of our area?), so that was a wash. If we refinance and take out $10 grand, we won't be upside down on our house, which is good. But, I just cannot see doing anything that would raise our monthly expenses w/ inflation going up and food costs going up...and our utility company just put through an increase so our electric is going up. I feel like I can be as frugal as anyone, but these uncontrolled costs keep going up and that's what drives me crazy. Plus, our cars are old etc. We need to sell our house, take our equity out and move to a cheaper area, or lower taxes or something, but getting our house ready to sell to optimize our return is more than I can handle right now.
THanks everyone!
We probably would have done better had we bought lotto tickets than the choice we made!!! I wish I could stop kicking myself, but I get so mad. oy. It's hard to get over poor financial decisions.
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The Regional Programme for the Sustainable Management of the Coastal Zones of the Countries of the Indian Ocean (ReCoMaP), a five-year programme funded by the European Commission and managed by the Indian Ocean Commission, intends to recruit a Field Accountant (FA) as a temporary staff for Kenya (coastal area).
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SAN ANTONIO - When most people think of hanging 10 on a totally awesome wave, they think Southern California, Hawaii and Florida.
Not one Texas location made Surfer Magazine's 10 best surf towns. But Kenny Braun, a photographer based in Austin, spent 15 years capturing the majestic surf scene on the Texas Gulf Coast for a photo book entitled "Surf Texas", which he says is the first to focus on surfing on the Texas coast.
"I wanted to convey a sense of place that is the Texas Gulf Coast by showing landscapes, seascapes, people, architecture as well as action shots from the water," Braun said.
Braun spent 15 years on-and-off shooting photos for the book, which started as a personal project to "reconnect with surfing and the Gulf Coast." The images are shot in Galveston, South Padre Island, Surfside and Port Aransas.
"Conditions have to be just right in order to get good waves in Texas and when the waves are really good they usually don't last that long," he said. "So being there in the right place at the right time is a rare and special experience. But it happens."
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Braun had also been waiting to shoot a hurricane swell for the book that "proved to be quite elusive." Braun got his chance in 2012 when Hurrincane Isaac came ashore in Louisiana.
Texas surf is produced by wind in the Gulf of Mexico, which is a relatively small body of water compared to the Atlantic and Pacific, Braun said.
"Texas surfers are just like surfers all over the planet. They are very dedicated and passionate about their sport, he said. "It doesn't matter if it's Hawaii or Lake Michigan, where there are ridable waves there are happy surfers having a great time."
See some of the photos above or find more information about Braun's book, which was published in March, by the University of Texas Press, here.
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Being a grandparent, for most people, is pure joy—any time spent with beloved grandchildren is truly a positive experience. But this isn't always the case when one is a step-grandparent to either a child's stepchildren or a new spouse's grandchildren.
The lingering trauma of your child's divorce can dull your enthusiasm for developing close, warm relationships with your new son- or daughter-in-law and his or her children, or you may be indifferent to your new spouse's grandchildren. Your step-grandchildren may also be at an age at which they are more interested in spending time with friends than getting to know you. These and other factors can get in the way of creating a happy, new stepfamily.
Chances are good that most grandparents will also become step-grandparents, whether they're up for the challenge or not, given the reality that there are more stepfamilies in the United States than original intact families. In fact, half of the country's 60 million children under 13 live with one biological parent and that parent's current partner.
As mature, responsible adults, you have the job of laying the groundwork for the new family by modeling respect and compassion. Here are a few tips to make your new role as joyful as possible:
1. Modify your expectations.
When remarriage occurs, too many family members believe they must love each other in order to have a happy family. But love is an emotion that can't be forced. If you love your step-grandchildren, that's wonderful, but if you don't, that's also acceptable, as long as you offer them kindness, compassion, and respect. No more and no less should be expected of you. When you remove expectations that you must love each other, it is easier just to be genuinely nice to each other. This can lead, in time, to love.
2. Be considerate.
There can be real disparities between stepsiblings. Some receive more birthday and holiday gifts from wealthier relatives than others do. Inadvertently, grandparents can exacerbate these differences by favoring their biological grandchildren and lavishing them with expensive gifts while ignoring step-grandchildren. This can cause discord among stepsiblings, and can hurt the feelings of young step-grandchildren who may not understand the difference in the relationship between their various grandparents. You don't have to buy gifts of equal value for all your grandchildren and step-grandchildren, but you do have to get gifts for all.
3. Don't take things personally.
If your efforts to build a positive relationship with step-grandchildren are rebuffed, you'll naturally feel hurt. Understand that the children may reject your attention and warmth for reasons that have nothing to do with you as a person. Perhaps they feel that since they already have two sets of grandparents, they don't need a third one in their lives, no matter how nice they are. Or unconsciously they may feel a need to maintain emotional distance from you to avoid feeling disloyal to their biological relatives. These feelings can take a long time to overcome, and may not change, despite your best efforts. Whatever the case, you need to accept things as they are for your own emotional welfare, and not take a child's initial rejection as a personal attack.
4. Create new holiday traditions.
Holidays can be particularly painful for stepfamily members who mourn the distance of certain relatives and the traditions they created for the family. So start new traditions by inviting family members to a holiday they've never celebrated before, or consider hosting a Thanksgiving celebration, for example, on a day when everyone in the stepfamily can attend. This will give you more freedom and limit stress.
5. Choose to be hopeful.
Many members of stepfamilies wonder if it's possible to ever be a happy, cohesive group. It most certainly is. Some stepfamilies are very fortunate; everyone cooperates and gets along nicely. For others, achieving this goal is harder. Members must work hard to set aside feelings of anger, bitterness, and resentment in order to be kind and considerate to each other. Just do the best you can, and take comfort in knowing that is all anyone can expect of you. It is more than enough.
Rachelle Katz, Ed.D. is a psychotherapist in private practice in New York City. Author of The Happy Stepmother: Stay Sane, Empower Yourself, Thrive in Your New Family, she leads monthly stepmother support groups, and is a stepmother coach. She has one stepdaughter.
I have two grandsons from my DIL previous relationships, but my relationship is great. They are my grandsons.
There not such word as step-grandmom. I am my grandson's grandmother. The word step makes me angry, as if he less because he was born before i knew him. He was chosen by my son. I tell him every time I see him that I am glad he is "Chosen One" one in the family. You cannot tell who was chosen and who was born into our family. That is the way it should be. Steps are for carpets, stairways and a place to sit on a hot summer day. NOT as a suffix for a child or grandparent.
FMV, I so commend your desire to "build relationships" with your step-grandchildren. And I understand your frustration at not getting the opportunity to do so. But I'm sorry to say that I have a feeling that this isn't going to change. Nor do I think that the stepgrands are interested, no slight meant to you or your husband. It's just that they are grown already, probably very busy with their own lives and, most likely, not even all that into spending time with their bio grandparents. As long as everyone else seems to find the situation "acceptable," I think you should just continue as you are and also focus more on developing your relationship with your little bio grands.
Briarhaven, I'm so sorry that you and your husband have been cut off from the stepgrands, especially the one with whom you seem to have had such a close and delightful relationship. And simply, it seems, for standing by your husband, as one is "supposed to" do.
If the argument had to do with your husband's attitudes about the SGC (step - grandchildren) and how they should or shouldn't be raised, or anything like that, though, it's possible that your SD (stepdaughter) doesn't feel they should be around him. And, unfortunately, that means that they can't be involved with you, either. Also, since you say your own relationship with SD was "'strained,'" anyhow, she may have, sadly, misinterpreted your stance as an expression of some disapproval of her, on your part. If she just grabbed onto this incident as an "excuse" to cut off contact, due to the underlying strain, that, no doubt, is cruel. And if she's just being vindictive, then, yes, she using those kids "as a weapon" against you and your husband and that is, in my opinion, even crueler.
Ladies, these are just the kinds of subjects that we talk about in the group, Mothers-in-Law Anonymous. Despite the title, we discuss other kinds of family and in-law problems, not just those of mother-in-law and daughter-in-law. Why not come and talk with us? Just click on the word "Community," at the VERY TOP of the page and you'll see us! And IF you're new to this site or to the Community section, why not join us in Club Newcomer, as well?
For ten years I was Grandma to my stepdaughter's 3 children. I never treated them differently from my daughter's two children. My stepdaughter and I had a "strained" relationship to say the least. But we always had the one granddaughter stay with us for the summer. My granddaughter and I had the most wonderful times exploring our area, hiking, shopping, you name it we did it. She is the oldest of all the granddaughters. The Spring of 2011 there was an agrument between my stepdaughter and my husband. I stood by my husband's side and now I am no longer a Grandma. I am not allowed any contact with my grandchildren. The worse thing an adult child can do is use the grandchildren as a weapon against her parents and stepparents.
How well do you get along with your grandchild and other family members? Want to know if your personalities mesh?Find out here.


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New parents Dannii Minogue and Kris Smith took 13-day-old Ethan Edward for his first family outing on Sunday (July 18).
"First day out for the whole family, Dannii running up a storm in Mothercare," tweeted the proud new father as the couple did some shopping.
Later on, the former rugby league player posted a photo of his sleeping son, captioned:
Sleeping peacefully, Ethan was amazing as always today…… Such a good boy just like his dad 😉
Dannii's sister, Kylie Minogue, joined in on the tweeting fun early Monday morning as she met her nephew for the very first time: "'Yes… yes….. YYYYEEESSS Baby Ethan is adorable, perfect and scrumptious!!!"
Ethan is the first child for Dannii, 38, and her partner Kris, 32, who have been together since 2008.


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Influence is a key component of any social media exercise, be it a successful blog or viral video or exciting social marketing campaign. Influencers are the folks you want to be tweeting and blogging about your stuff… ideally on their own. Influencers are the kinetic energy that pushes your message across the social web.
Below are examples drawn from Twitter to help you understand influence and how you can earn it or leverage others' credibility.
Often we look to Twitter to define who is an influencer. The number of followers one has clearly demonstrates his or her influence, right? Sometimes, yes. Most of the time, probably not. I'll use my personal Twitter account to explain why. As I write this post, I have 856 followers. The common definition of influence says that I am inflluential to my followers. Easy to draw this connection with a larger-than-average list of followers. But why? I tweet about EMC, of course, but also about current events, pop culture, food, my dogs, the course I teach at UMass and social media, natch. Generally anything I'm interested in. I wouldn't say I'm influentual, at least to the degree that my tweets will generate the interest a social marketeer would hope for. I know I have followers who retweet my thoughts on EMC or social media or UMass or my dogs. I know that there is some overlap amongst these groups. So as commentator on these various topics, I could be considered influential, but not expert. And certainly not influential enough to instigate widespread tweeting.
Let's dive a bit deeper into who's following me. The latest follow is from @HornGroup. I followed them earlier this morning, noting they support communications for IT firms, something I have an interest in. Unless their social manager is Mr. Johnny-on-the-Spot monitoring who follows that account, I can assume fairly confidently that I was automatically followed-back. There is some mutual influence here, as I am a digital marketing professional in the IT industry and @HornGroup is a boutique agency providing that service.
A note on auto-following. Don't do it. It's lazy and you're doing no one any favors by building an artificial following. Looking at my other recent followers, I see an online purveyor of backpacks and a gentleman running for office in New Jersey. I have plenty of backpacks and have never lived (nor plan to live) in New Jersey. My Twitter account was likely followed by bots in the hopes of making a connection with me. I assure you, no connection (or influence) there.
At EMC, we were guilty of once auto-following on our corporate @EMCcorp account. So much so that this summer we peaked at 11,000 folks followed. Many of these tweeps ranged from hair salons to auto repair shops… many folks who likely do not do business with EMC. In fact, our follows were so diverse, the @EMCcorp home feed was of no value whatsoever in surfacing valuable content. Knowing there are dedicated and passionate folks out there, we cleaned out our following, limiting the audience to accounts bearing some relevance (i.e. – influence) on the larger IT discussion. There were over 7,500 unrelated follows removed. Today, our 3,700 follows are comprised of IT publications, customers, partners and other thought leaders contributing useful content to the Twittersphere. We can't control our following, but we can control whose content we curate and share. Our slimmer group of follows provides a very relevent source of useful content.
Another example comes from @ChrisBrogan. He's a recognized influencer in digital marketing whose blog currently ranks #2 on AdAge's Power 150. Chris recently suffered from a spam problem caused by some of the 130,000 Twitter accounts he was following. Rather than sorting through it all to ID the offending follows, Chris unfollowed everyone to start fresh and refocus on his interests. It's an interesting story, and one to help understand when and why you might follow someone on Twitter and the wonderful conversations that can be had.
It's all about the context
So, before going forth to listen for potential influencers, consider the context by which you seek to engage. Does that tweep or blogger demonstrate interest in your topic? Has he or she written original content or shared similar content to that which you have written? It's not enough to look at folks' follow numbers and decide they are influentual. Look for follows on the smaller side, say in the hundreds compared to thousands of followers. A small number of follows might also suggest a focused tweet stream. This indictates a tweep is selective about whom he follows, therefore there's a reasonable expectation he or she might curate targeted and interesting content related to his or her own interests. Someone tweeting about unified storage architecture isn't necessarily influential, or even interested in, cloud security. Though they ought to be ;-)
The take-away? Consider your source. Ask yourself, "Does this person's number of follows add value to his Twitter presence?"
"Does this person tweet (or blog) on topics relevant to my interests?"
"Is this person's audience targeted such that it adds value to the conversation?"
"Is this person likely to retweet my content or write original blog content that aligns with my goals?"
"Is this content focused on a few topics or does it span many?"
If you can answers these questions, you're well on your way to establishing a engaging connection. If you seek to engage with a particular tweep, understand his audience. Understand the conversations he's part of. Understand the context of his content. Once you can do (and measure) these things, jump-in and take part in those conversations. Think of the last cocktail or holiday party you attended. Did you walk up to a group of strangers to join their conversation? No. You likely scanned the room to understand the vibe and then introduced yourself to an interesting group.
Provide (and leverage) valuable content. From there will you will begin to understand who the most influential tweeps and bloggers might be for you.


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Lowestoft deaths: Tribute lanterns released
More than 100 people turned out in the Suffolk seaside town of Lowestoft to release lanterns in memory of a mother and her three children found dead on Monday.
Fiona Anderson jumped to her death from a multi-storey car park in the town. The bodies of her three children were later found at the family's home.
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Proprietà della terra e sviluppo rurale
Land ownership and rural development (by Carlo Alberto Graziani) - ABSTRACT: Starting from the consideration that for the first time the pair land-agriculture has been broken, as it has been confirmed by the formulation of article 2135 of the civil code on agricultural enterprises, and that by now there exist two types of agriculture, one that takes care of the land and another one that attacks or even dispenses with it, the author claims that only the first type of agriculture is coherent with the European policy of support to rural development (regulation CE no 1698/2005). He also claims that in order to pursue the objectives of this policy, the land must stop being a mere factor of production and become a value in its own right and, as such, an object that needs to be preserved. Consequently, the central hinge around which the agricultural phenomenon revolves can no longer be offered by the agricultural enterprise. But is it possible, the author wonders, to conceive the land irrespective of its productive function, which is not just structural data but also complies with the dominant interpretation of article 44 of the costitution? Following in the footsteps of Giuseppe Capograssi he replies that it is impossible to reduce our relationship with the land to a mere economic experience. Such an irreducibility can be found in some cases, that share as a common denominator the conservation function and an extraneousness from the economicistic dimension; for those cases, the author hypotesises the category of environmental property. However, contrary to this the history of property and the place of this institution in the constitution seem to demonstrate that the property constitutes an exclusively economic category. This obstacle can be overcome by reflecting on the significance of the tenure, one of the two classical powers that form the content of the property rights (article 832 of the civil code): there are legally relevant forms of tenure that do not imply economic usage. It is precisely in the cases analysed above that the landlord establishes a relationship of tenure with the land as such, as an object on an ideal plane, managing thus to satisfy his deep need to be in communion with nature. In conclusion, the jurist must realise the pervasivity assumed today by the ideal dimension, and hence the necessity for new and more complex approaches. Moreover, with regards to the ownership of land, such a dimension opens the article 44 of the costitution to the possibility of new and attractive interpretations.
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Going back to turn Steven Spielberg's 20-year-old dino thriller "Jurassic Park" into a 3-D spectacle (required to watch with, yes, 3-D spectacles) is almost as egregious an error, it turns out, as going back and bringing tyrannosaurs and triceratops to life again in the first place.
You're not going to lose a limb like poor chain-smoking computer nerd Samuel L. Jackson does in the movie, but you may lose your patience while you're sitting there in the dark. Remember the seamless way those gallimimuses (or is that gallimimi?) stampeded across the verdant Isla Nublar field, almost mowing down Sam Neill and those two kids? Remember when that same trio is perched in the high branches of some Cretaceous-era tree, gazing out on a horizon dotted with a herd of giant grazing brachiosaurs?
Visual effects technology was downright primitive back in 1993. But the CG artists, model artists, matte painters and digital renderers — Spielberg's whole talented crew — managed to create the illusion that Richard Attenborough's genetically engineered theme park off the coast of Costa Rica was real.
Ironically, "Jurassic Park's" 3-D conversion actually undermines that illusion, and compromises the experience. When Spielberg and his great cinematographer Dean Cundey shot the film in Hawaii in 1992, they weren't thinking 3-D, and so foreground and background, actors, props and animatronic beasties were framed and shot with a traditional 2-D viewing in mind. And, of course, with the dino visual effects in mind — how to make those raptors and tyrannosaurs look as if they're really commingling with Laura Dern, Jeff Goldblum, Wayne Knight and all.
But the "depth mapping" and depth-image rendering required for a 3-D conversion (which typically runs $10 million to $15 million) exaggerates and re-emphasizes the way those scenes are composed. Now, when that giant T Rex bears down on the two Jurassic Park Jeeps and their scared-silly passengers, the 3-D retrofit makes the scene look phonier, cheesier, almost like 1950s sci-fi. The fakery becomes more apparent.
Yes, there are some close-up scenes — the raptors in the Jurassic Park kitchen, stalking kiddie stars Joseph Mazzello and Ariana Richards, and that poor, sickly triceratops that Neil and Dern hug and poke — that benefit from the 3-D-ization. But mostly, if you factor in the dimming effects of the 3-D glasses (everything less bright, less vivid) and the reformulated depth-of-field perspectives, "Jurassic Park 3D" does this fun, scary, innovative family film a disservice. Get the original from Netflix and save yourself some dollars — and disappointment.
P.S.: When "Jurassic Park" was released in 1993, I gave it three stars out of four — that rating still stands. It's the conversion that gets only two.
'jurassic park 3d'
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Rating: PG-13 (for some really scary dinos)
Cast: Sam Neill, Laura Dern, Jeff Goldblum and Richard Attenborough
Director: Steven Spielberg.
Running time: 2 hours, 6 minutes.


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Here is the last of my altered canvases from Christmas. This one is for my aunt. Since these are such quick projects I was able to complete this in a whole afternoon and with limited resources. I was out of so many embellishments so I had to really dig in my craft room to find supplies that I have been hoarding. I tend to do that with my favorite papers and embellishments. I prefer to take them out and stare for a bit and imagine how perfect they would make my projects and then I return them to their spot on the shelf. I have really made an effort as of late to make myself use them. Besides, it gives me a reason to have to go shopping. Anyway, I used chipboard flourishes that I got at an awesome deal from Tuesday Morning. They came in handy to tie together all my stray flowers. I chose the neutral color scheme because my Aunt decorates her home with mostly neutrals and blue. The Canvas reminds me of a flowering garden in spring. I love having flowers all over, but then again, I LOVE flowers!
Thanks for stopping by and have a blessed Sunday.


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In 2011, Mossberg released a modified version of its bolt action 4×4™ rifle called the MVP Varmint. The MVP Varmint took the gun industry by storm due to one unique design feature: it uses AR-15 magazines. Decried by detractors as a gimmick and heralded by others as revolutionary, the heavy barreled MVP Varmint gained quick acceptance and sold like hotcakes. In 2012, Mossberg took the MVP concept in the totally opposite direction by introducing the "P" version of the MVP: a lightweight carbine version called the "Predator." As the name implies, it's designed for hunting coyote, bobcats, and fox. Think of it as a bolt action version of the Ruger Mini-14 or a Winchester 94 Trapper lever gun: a small, lightweight rifle with lots of on-board firepower. I tested the MVP Predator and walked away very impressed . . .
When I first unboxed it and saw the sporter profile barrel, I was pretty disappointed. I was expecting to review the 18" bull barreled version and, rightly or wrongly, I tend to associate the bull barrels with better accuracy. I figured the skinny barrel would only yield ho-hum accuracy (1 to 2 MOA) typical of lower-end hunting rifles. Man, was I wrong. I'll cut straight to it: this thing is an absolute tack-driver. As an example, these were my first three shots at 100 yards during a recent trip to Tri-County Gun Club, in Sherwood, Oregon (.45 inches with Hornady 55 grain V Max):
And the MVP will produce groups like this all day long. That gets me excited, especially from a gun that retails for $500 and change. So, I've been bonding with the MVP for a few months now and am of the opinion that the skinny 20-inch barrel is the way to go for a "Predator" configuration. Here's my thinking on this:
A bull barrel is not typically needed for predators. Hunting critters like coyotes or bobcats is typically not a high-volume shooting affair, so shifting POI from a hot barrel isn't going be an issue. One to three shots constitutes a typical coyote hunting day for a hunter like me, and while I'm sure expert hunters will go through a few more rounds than that on a good day, I doubt anybody is likely to use a full box of shells.
Second, the light, relatively short barrel points faster than longer, heavier barrels. I usually shoot in a sitting or kneeling position off a long 13"-25" Harris bipod so this isn't that much of an issue. But in situations where the coyotes are coming in fast and close, it's nice to be able to ditch the sticks and shoot offhand with very low scope magnification. The MVP Predator excels at this type of shooting.
Third, predator hunting typically involves quite a bit of foot travel, so a short light rifle is a real bonus. I usually set up 4 to 6 stands in a morning, and there may be a quarter to a half mile or so between each one. I'll often haul in my heavy bull-barreled sniper rifles (just because they're cool and I like to take long 400-600 yard shots if offered), but a light rifle like the MVP Predator would be very advantageous if it doesn't compromise accuracy. Also, you're less likely to bang a short rifle up against a fence post, barbed wire, a gate, etc., announcing your presence to every coyote within ¼ mile. Staying quiet is critical when hunting, and short rifles are easier to maneuver.
Now, if you plan on suppressing the MVP, there may be some value in getting the thicker barrel. It seems to me that it might be easier to thread a barrel with a thicker profile. But I'm not an expert on that.
The test gun is chambered in 5.56 x 45 NATO/.223 Rem which is a good choice for high volume shooting due to easy availability and low cost of ammunition. Of course, presently it would not be much of an overstatement to say that there is not a single round of .223 Rem available for sale in the USA. Don't worry – I'm sure the Mexican military has some for sale. With any luck, the recent panic-buying spree will subside by the summer and .223 Rem will become more readily available again.
When I first inspected the bolt, I have to admit that I thought that the little lip that strips the round out of the magazine looked pretty flimsy. My first thought that it was "not G.I proof," as we used to say in the military, but it's worked like a charm. After only 500 rounds, I'm not prepared to declare it to be bomb-proof just yet, but by the same token, it hasn't shown any signs of weakness or failure so far.
Nick Leghorn reviewed the MVP Varmint version of the MVP and while he had a lot of positive things to say about the Mossy, he found it to be lacking in a couple of key areas. First, his test sample wasn't as reliable as it should be. Second, he thought the bolt required too much force to unlock. So when Mossberg sent TTAG the MVP Predator, I wanted to see if this test sample had the same foibles.
In terms of reliability, the Predator prefers some mags over others. Because an AR-15's mag well has a deep funnel, there isn't much opportunity for a magazine to rock back and forth from front to back. The Predator, on the other hand, lacks a deep funnel, so if the magazine is a bit "short" of spec, it won't seat very well in the mag well. Mags tend to rattle around a bit in the MVP's well, and that can make some extra noise. In the case of some mags, this can affect reliability of the rifle because it affects the angle at which the Predator's bolt strips the round off the mag. If the angle isn't right, the bolt misses the strip or gums up so mag selection is important.
The Mossy proved to cycle reliably with the factory 5-round mag (small mag on the far right in the picture above). The magnificent HK 30-rd magazines worked flawlessly, as did Magpul Gen 2 PMAGs, Lancer mags and mil-spec Colt mags. I had some C-Product 20-round magazines that seemed to routinely cause problems. I solved that with a little duct tape, but some shooters might find that to be a less-than-perfect solution.
As for the bolt throw – I have to agree with Nick that it initially took a surprising amount of force to lift the bolt on the MVP Predator after a round was fired. However, after a 300-round break-in period, the bolt is not nearly as stiff as it once was. I'm sure a gunsmith could smooth out the bolt even more if need be, but I haven't found it to be a real problem.
I'm very impressed with the MVP's trigger. I know I've said that a lot lately in my reviews and I'm probably starting to sound like a broken record. But trigger technology has improved greatly in the past ten years or so, thanks in large part to Savage's legendary Accu-trigger. As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and Mossberg definitely upped its game in 2008 when it released its Accu-trigger-inspired LBA™ Lightning Bolt Action™ Adjustable Trigger.
The LBA trigger adjustment is remarkable in its simplicity. Tightening or loosening a flathead screw adds or releases tension on a spring that controls the pull weight (see photo, above lower). As an added bonus, the LBA trigger blade in the center of the trigger prevents the sear from releasing the striker unless the blade is fully depressed. Thus, the gun will not accidentally fire when jarred, even when the trigger is set at the lightest adjustment setting.
The MVP Predator has some nice features that set it apart from the rest of the $500 rifle crowd, including a highly recessed crown and shallow flutes on the barrel. The aggressive channel makes the crown difficult to clean without a good tool, but again – no biggie.
I also really like the stylish shallow spiral flutes on the bolt. That's a feature usually only found on high-end rifles. Although the flutes on the MVP don't compare to those on a Robar or a Surgeon, I'm not aware of any other manufacturer that's adding bolt flutes to a $500 rifle. Cudos to Mossberg.
Traditionalists may balk, but I appreciate originality in gun design. So I really like the styling of the fore-end and handgrips, as well as the gray-ish laminate stock.
I also appreciate the plastic bedding system in the stock – no real need to bed this rifle. The barrel channel keeps wood away from the barrel, making the rifle entirely free–floating.
Scope Options / Recommendations
Mossberg offers the MVP Predator in a scoped package. Unless money is really tight, I would skip these factory package "deals" because, in most cases, the scopes that come with them aren't great. Spend the extra money and buy a good quality scope from Leopold, Burris, Nikon, etc.
I don't believe you need a big, high magnification scope for the MVP Predator, especially if you're actually using it to hunt predators. Any decent 3-9 x 40 scope should do the trick. Even better, a small lightweight 2-7 x 33 or 2.5-8 x 36 would provide all the magnification you need while keeping weight down to a minimum. I opted for the Leopold VX2 2-7×33 and some DNZ aluminum rings (see photo above). I also like the option of being able to dial the magnification down to 2x or 2.5x when the coyotes come in fast and close. If you plan on shooting at ranges longer than 300 yards, a BDC reticle or target turrets should be added.
I tried to run a Bushnell 1 x 6.5 Tactical Scope on the MVP and although I like the scope, I didn't like the combination. As an initial matter, you can see the barrel when the scope is set to anything under 2x, which is distracting. Second, the way the factory scope bases were installed didn't allow me to mount the Bushnell forward enough to get a good cheek weld. And finally, it's my opinion that a lightweight scope is the way to go on this rig. The Bushnell is a heavy duty piece of kit made for AR-15s, so I'd shy away from tactical red dots or 1×4 or 1×6 scopes on the Predator.
Ammo Preference
The MVP Predator's 5.56 x 45 NATO chambering and 1 in 9 twist are optimized for shooting both surplus military ammo as well as the light-weight bullets favored by predator hunters. I had great success shooting anything from 40 grains up to 69 grains, including M855 and M109 ball. I mostly shoot 55 grain ammo ('cause its cheap), and this rifle shot sub MOA with even pedestrian ammo such as UMC, American Eagle, etc. Accuracy suffered a bit when I fired a few of the bigger 77 grain bullets through the Predator, but even then, groups tended to be 1-2 MOA on a warm day. Certainly, you would expect worse accuracy in cold weather.
Final Thoughts
Honestly, I haven't historically been a Mossberg fan. Then again, I never owned any of their rifles or shotguns. Based on the way the MVP has performed, though, they can now officially add me to their fan club list. This rifle does what it's intended to do very well, and for the price, the MVP Predator is an absolute steal. So long as you take the time to match it up with the aftermarket mags it likes, you will not be disappointed.
What's next for the MVP Predator? Expect Mossberg to release versions of the MVP in .308 Win and .204 Ruger. Maybe others as well. If it were up to me, I'd bring out versions with Mossy Oak camo stocks and a threaded barrel. A Jeff Cooper-inspired scout rifle version in .308 Win would seem to be a natural fit as well. I might also think about developing optional mounts for night vision.
Caliber: 5.56×45(NATO) / .223 Rem.
Barrel: Choice between 18.5 inch medium "bull" or a 20 inch sporter contour (both have a 1 in 9 RH twist).
Length: 39 inch overall length
Weight: 6 lbs., 7 ounces empty
Operation: bolt action
Finish: parkerized
Trigger: LBA™ Lightning Bolt Action™Adjustable Trigger (2 to 6 Ibs)
Capacity: 5 round mag included; accepts AR magazines
Sights: Drilled and tapped, no iron sites included. Weaver scope mounts are factory installed
Price (MSRP): $650.00 Street price is $500.00 -$550.00
Ratings (Out of Five Stars)
Accuracy: * * * * *
The MVP is one of the most accurate skinny-barreled production rifles I've ever shot in that price range. The test rifle is a .4 to .7 MOA shooter all day long, using factory ammo. My personal best was a three-shot .37 inch group at 100 yards. To get a rifle with this kind of accuracy for $500 is a sure sign that Mossy is on the right track.
Ergonomics: * * * * 1/2
I really love the handling characteristics of the diminutive Mossberg MVP Predator. Light, fast, and comfortable ergonomics make it a real hit. I wish the stock were an inch longer, but I say that about most rifles. I probably won't complain when it's cold out and I'm wearing a bulky jacket.
Reliability: * * * *
The MVP did occasionally fail to chamber the last round from a few different AR mags. Having said that, the rifle functioned flawlessly with the factory 5-round magazine supplied by Mossberg. Figure out which mags it likes and you will be good to go.
Durability: * * * * *
I did not experience any broken parts, failures to fire, or other failures that would make me lose confidence in the rifle. The finish on the rifle leaves a bit to be desired, because the blueing seems to be wearing off in high-use areas such as the bolt handle. This MVP screams for a camo duracoat job in any event, so I'm not too worried about the blueing.
Customization: * * *
Other than the obvious (AR mags!), there are no MVP-specific aftermarket accessories available for this rifle. But honestly, I can't think of anything that I'd change. I suppose it's possible to add a Badger Ordinance tactical bolt handle if you really wanted to.
Overall Rating: * * * * ½
I really love this rifle. And I really hope Mossberg doesn't want it back.
77 Responses to Gun Review: Mossberg MVP Predator
Well it's a bolt action it might be legal for deer in PA!
As you mention in your excellent article, there is no need for a heavy barrel as most 'yote hunters only fire a few rounds per session. Wouldn't that seem to nullify the main selling point for this rifle, namely, using AR mags for rapid reloading?
If they do come out with a .308 version it will complicate my life as I have been looking at the Ruger Scout Rifle for a while now :(.
I'm not sure, but I believe the "Varmint" MVP comes with a heavier barrel. I believe this one trades reliability/accuracy over many rounds for lower weight and easier pointing.
You are correct: the trade off is accuracy (when the barrel gets hot after 30 rounds or so) vs. light weight, and speed (easier to point quickly).
You read my mind. I would like a .308 version as well that takes the AR-10 mags (DPMS style). Would want a threaded barrel also.
I don't see a problem, just buy one of each.
I like your thinking!
The main reason for the AR-15 mag was that up until recently they were cheap and plentiful. It was a case of why redesign the wheel.
@ Peter: You make a good point, and I thought of that as well. Nonetheless, I like the idea of having a common mag that is easy to find in any gun store (recent panic buying scarcity notwithstanding). My T/C Icon (.243 Win) uses proprietory mags that cost $32 a piece and are pretty much going to be a mail order proposition. Currently, I only have one mag for the T/C, and if I lost it on a hunt or it broke, I'd be SOL for at least a week. So in that sense, the Mossy's AR-Mag design is great. I probably have 50 AR mags already – in all shapes and sizes from 5 to 100 round capacity. Also, I don't think the skinny barrel version is incapable of being used for varmint shooting; its just going to experience more of a POI shift as the barrel gets hot.
Just gotten rid of Ruger Scout and the only reason…….magazines…..Ruger s are only ones it will accept and at about $35. each and not able to use in any other weapon made up mind for me………. Other than mags was an awesome rifle…..
Excellent review. I've been hoping to get a bolt action target rifle for a while, and really wanted one in a (used to be) cheap caliber that I already (used to) shoot a lot of. Since my darling SCAR won't be in my price range for quite some time, perhaps I'll look into blowing some cash on one of these.
I wish someone would make that exact same rifle except with semi-automatic action rather than bolt action.
They do. It is called an AR-15 and you can't get one right now, but hopefully soon.
A Ruger Mini-14 would be much closer to the exact same rifle. But you probably can't get one of those right now either.
The drawbacks to the Ruger Mini-14 are that they are expensive and they do not use standard AR-15 magazines. Not only that, the Ruger Mini-14 magazines appear to come with no more than a 20 round capacity versus the standard 30 round capacity AR-15 magazines.
Yes TTACer … I know about AR-15s. I wanted something a little simpler than an AR-15 with a wood stock that would hopefully, normally, knock a couple hundred dollars off the price of low end AR-15s. I guess I could simply look for an AK-47 chambered in 5.56mm then but would such a rifle be as accurate as this Mossberg MVP predator?
Plus, this might be an option for people in restrictive states: it has no "evil" features such as pistol grips, flash hiders, bayonet lugs, etc. Other than the fact that such a rifle could accept standard 30 round magazines, there really is nothing that any citizen disarmament advocate could whine about — other than the fact that it is a firearm of course.
Sounds like a Ruger Mini-14 is right up your alley.
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A low-end AR used to be around $700. The problem with the Mini is that it is not nearly as accurate as an AR of the same price, and an AK action would likely be as bad or worse. And that doesn't even address the whole evil shoulder thingy that goes up problem with the AR/AK options. If they made the FNAR in .223 and cut the price in half that would be the ticket. And if wishes were horses…
Ruger does offer factory-manufactured 30-shot magazines for the Mini-14, but only in .223/5.56mm. They function superbly, but are far more expensive than AR mags of the same capacity.
Kel-Tec SU16 comes close to those requirements.
I have seen reviews of rifles that cost 2x-3x or more that can't match the accuracy. I understand big-bore safari rifles are not made for that, and the cartridges can't necessarily achieve that kind of accuracy anyway. What I don't understand is when a bolt action rifle (rhymes with eatherby) in an accurate chambering can't beat a $500 Mossberg. What are you paying for?
Mossberg is the blue collar working mans gun. Even folks on a limited budget that don't want to shop used or maybe don't have the experience to shop used can buy a good, new gun for a reasonable price. And Mossberg's work.
I also like the package deals that companies offer on rifles and scopes. I agree that the scopes aren't ideal, but if you're on a tight budget saving for a better scope can mean missing the season.
For a little more than 400 bucks my son can get an Axis .30-06 with scope from Big 5. He has a stay at home wife with 2 little ones to care for. That axis combo will allow him to hunt deer and pigs without worry of hurting the family budget.
Point well taken – a cheap gun/scope combo is better than no gun/scope, if those are your options. I recently purchased teh Remmy 700 ADL with Scope for $350, and the scope was OK. I mean, it was marginal, but certainly better than nothing.
Even if you have no use for a bolt action rifle that accepts AR15 magazines, I can't really see it as a detractor at all.
Exactly. I mean, I can't picture going through even a 10 round clip with a bolt gun, but hell, this is great if you have AR mags–and they're cheap and easy to get most of the time. Beats the hell out of proprietary magazines.
When does the .308 version come out?
The Ruger Thunder Ranch Scout in .308 is already out. Twice the cost but exactly the right caliber.
I bought the 308 as soon as I could (June, 2014), and bought the 24″ barrel version. It's throwing groups
of 1″ at 250 yards (the longest my backyard range goes safely). That's handloaded 168 SBTM.
It uses standard LR-308 magazines and all I have for a scope is the (camo) Millett TRS-1. It's as good as a certain 280 Rem (they called them 7mm-06 back then) Winchester they handed me in 1971.
I own the mini 14 and the mvp , both are fun and accurate firearms , both have great features , I like the semi auto for failure to acquire the target on the first shot and I like the standard ar mag feature of the mvp . I hate having to keep all the different mags. organized . Noreen BN 36 , 30.06 cal. , ar platform , beast . takes a little tweaking to get it feeding your ammo of choice and doesn't seem to like to switch a lot of ammo but I finially got my purring on a 180 grainer . 20 round magazine , no hickups . wow !
Every time I see an article about the MVP, I just have to chime in: I love mine. I've got the 24″ heavy-ish barrel version, and it's everything I could ask for out of a $550 .223 bolt rifle. It is such a perfect complement to the AR-15.
I was very happy to hear about Mossberg expanding the MVP line at SHOT. I personally wish for a 5.45×39 version, but the .300AAC one is going to be sweet.
Give me one in .300 AAC and a threaded barrel.
This was an absolutely excellent review. Top quality work. You've motivated me to consider acquiring this rifle model or waiting for the .308 'scout-version' to come out. If I get this rifle I would probably want to add iron sights to it for back-up use if the main scope gets broke.
I'm not familiar with the process or what is involved in a camo duracoat job. Is that something an owner can do on their own or does it require a trip to the gunsmith?
Check out the Patrol version with a 16″ barrel and rifle sights.
I looked on the Mossberg site yet was not able to find a "patrol" model. Does another manufacturer make it?
Aharon, it's a brand new model and isn't on Mossberg's website yet. It was debuted at Shot and will be available soon. If you Google it, you'll see some images.
Thank you.
I wish they would make lefty versions of the rifle.
Around seven years ago, after a few months of looking around I found a left handed Ruger M77 in .30-06, which I do like a lot. However, since then I have fired a few other bolt actions and decided a RH one is not a bad deal for me, especially if I'm shooting from a bipod. I can keep my firing hand on the grip as I manipulate the bolt, not a bad arrangement. Try it out and see how it works for you.
i'm planning the following:
Howa barreled action in 7mm-8 $400ish
bell and carlson stock $200ish
Howa detachable magazine conversion $100
I think that the conventional wisdom of buying guns in popular calibers has gone out the window. Can you find any .223 or .308? Or even bullets and brass?
a whole gang of .284 bullets and once fired .308 range brass would keep me going for awhile. No need to worry about empty shelves at walmart and Midway.
I like your thinking, and encourage others to think similarly.
There are some fantastic bullets available in the 7mm(.284) space how. Wicked high ballistic coefficients, and any sort of hunting or target or VLD/long-range application you'd care to develop, there's a bunch of nice bullets available.
The 7mm08 is an excellent cartridge for everything up to elk, very easy on recoil.
For people who have a long action rifle, look at the oft-forgotten .280 Remington. Want more gas in a short action? Look at the Winchester .284. Want even more? Look at the 7mm WSM. These latter two will require work on a magazine, but the 7mm08 will go into a .308 magazine quite nicely, and the .280 will go into a magazine intended for a .30-06.
Where does one aquire a barreled action from Howa or from another manufacturer?
My only small complaint about this rifle is that I wished they had a 1-in-8 twist in the barrel. There are more and more heavier .224 bullets hitting the market, and while you can stabilize a 77gr pill with a 1:9, it would be nice to spin it up just a tad more.
With a bolt gun, it becomes easier to single-load 80+ gr pills in the .223.
I like shooting the heavier bullets as well. This rifle did not really what little 77 grain ammo I ran through it – groups were Ok for hunting purposes, but rather pedestrian (1.1 – 2 MOA on average) Rightly or wrongly, I think Mossberg's thinking on the 1:9 twist was based on the assumption that most people would be shooting the lightweight, fur-friendly varmint rounds and/or Mil sup ammo. I don't own anything in .223 with a 1:8 twist – how light of a bullet can you shoot accurately with that twist rate?
In my experience with the 1:8 so far, 50 or 52 grain pills seems to be the lowest I can go before things start getting over-spun (as evidenced by groups opening up). 62's and 69's work nicely, as do the 75's and 77's. Never tried 80's and heavier in my 1:8.
1:7 twists will spin up the heavier pills for long range work (such as it is with a .223) but are too tight for anything you can feed through an AR magazine other than the 77's and maybe high 60's. (IMO, based on the math).
1:8 will stabilize anything from 50 to 77 pretty nicely (in my experience with AR's). Unless I'm using a bolt gun on squirrels, I don't go under 50gr pills in .223.
1:9 will stabilize from 40 or 45 grains up to 62 grains OK. 55 grain M-193 ammo goes through a 1:9 barrel very nicely. So I see what they're getting at. I'm always a guy looking to maximize my Bc's…
Oh, one more tip that might improve the accuracy of rifles like this with three screws to mount the magazine and trigger loop:
Tighten the front screw (forward of the magazine) fully tight.
Tighten the screw on the rear of the trigger guard just barely snug.
Then tighten the middle screw just to a point where you start to feel resistance. DO NOT reef down on the middle screw if the rear screw goes into the tang on the rear of the receiver.
If the rear screw goes only into the grip wood, then tighten the front full, the middle snug and then don't strip out the rear guard screw.
This was learned many eons ago on rifles like the Model 70.
If I see this in a scout type version chambered in .308 that accepts standard mags AND they keep the price below the Gunsite Scout, my credit card is in for some abuse.
Great article. Very informative. I think I may try one of these out.
A .308 scout version that uses DMPS style AR-10 mags (compatible with .308 PMAGS) would be a top seller IMHO.
The use of proprietary single stack Accuracy International magazines is a major flaw in the Ruger scout rifle design.
3 shot groups are a waste of time.
Do minimum 10 shot groups and see what you get. I have strong doubts that this firearm is half MOA "all day long" with factory.
IMO, 10 shot groups are a waste of time for anything other than a varmint rifle or a sniper rifle. What predator is going to give you ten chances to shoot it? Besides, most people can't shoot 10 rounds in a row without introducing some sort of operator error. Three shots tells you what the barrel is capable of doing in terms of grouping, and that is all that really matters. Granted, a skinny barrel will likley give you a POI shift as it gets hotter, but again, what does that really prove?
POI shift is WHY 10 shot groups are useful. It isn't about hitting the same spot 10 times, it is about how the bullet behaves compared to POI after 10 shots. If the shots are stringing vertically or vertically and to the right, etc, it is nice to know that and be able to compensate.
Yeah, but the POI shift you exerience will never be consistent from rifle to rifle, so anything that I would post about this particular sample would not necessarily transfer over to any other sample.
Just checked out the Patrol version – make it in .308 for AR-10 mags, price it the same or less than the Ruger GSR, and take my money.
Those "stylish" flutings on the bolt are about more than style. Those will keep the action from freezing up in extreme cold.
Wife and have a mix of what we consider basi, functional rifles that do not yet include the Mossberg mvp patrol. When wallet and local availability combine, we will go for one in .223, short barrel and our own choice of scope. We put a Vortex 6-24/50 on our Savage 110 ba .338, have a Nikon on the Ruger gsr scout .308 and a Leupold on a nice little Savage 93 stainless in .22 magnum. The Ruger mini-14 in .223 also has a Vortex and is the only non- bolt in the bunch. The Mossberg bolt has strong appeal even though we have the mini in .223. We are recreational shooters with near zero hunting experience. We like each of the rifles, do not burn up anywhere as much ammo as we wish we could find/afford and are contemplating reload options. Vortex has impressed us with quality, features and cost. If a Mossberg mvp bolt in .223 shows up here, I suspect a low to mid power Vortex will be added. I have owned a basic Mossberg pump 12 gauge since return from Vietnam. Simple, inexpensive and reliable. We acquired these firearms less as indication of need than as statement that we are still Americans who signed up to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. When I flew Cobra gunships, I found that foreign problem pretty easy to deal with. I could not conceive of a time in my life where the real issue would be domestic. America is going away; enjoy it while you, your children and, maybe, grandchildren still can-sort of.
I have a Remington 788 in .223 around thirty years now, which I bought used out of the paper for $165.00. The guy said it had taken a coyote or two, and years ago, my son killed his first deer with it. Very accurate. I'd love to have it converted to AR style mags, as I hate the clunky five round mags for it. When you sling it on your shoulder and walk, it's very easy to bump the mag release, shooting the mag out, and into the dirt. You may not even realize when it happens. This gun would be perfect with an AR mag, a bi-pod, and a Cerokote job w/fiberglass stock. Maybe some day. I also have one in 6mm Rem that's been a favorite over the years.
The prospect of owning one of these Mossbergs in .308 really excites me. I've never had that caliber, but would love to have one set up with the high capacity mag, bi-pod, glass stock, and Cerokote. Anyone know when they will be available? My email is; firstname.lastname@example.com. Thanks! Oh, Shotgun, thanks for serving!
Joe, great review! I have been wanting this gun for a year now but was not able to buy it last year because of everything that was going on with firearms. I finally got my hands on one this year but I was only able to find the 20″ sportster barrell. I had my mind set on the 18.5 med bull barrell. I'm just curious on how many rounds I can put thru the skinnier barrell in one sitting before I let it cool down. The one I purchased came with a 10 round mag and I do like to pop off rounds. Thanks Ben
Hi Ben: I'm not an expert on this particular topic, but it is my understanding that you can reduce the service life of a barrel by shooting it while it is very hot. Barrels don't "wear" out per se, they burn out. It stands to reason that the hotter you get the barrel get, the more that this burning process occurs. I've looked at old barrels through a hawkeye scope and you can really see the firecracks in an old worn out barrel. I generally have shot my predator at a fairly moderate pace so that I don't get a POI shift. I never let the barrel get too hot to touch / hold on to. I would guess that if you shot somewhere between 30, 40, or 50 rounds in rapid succession that the barrel would need a 5 to 10 minute cool-down period.
Thank you for you opinion. I'm a casual Hunter here in south Texas and don't think i will put that many round in one hunt, but i do go to my local gun range and shoot about a box or two. (Hornody 55gr v-max) sorry I don't know what a POI shift means or a moa or any other acronams that you used in your review mean. Thank you to for your input tho, it really did help.
Sorry, POI means "point of impact." When a barrel heats up, it will typically start to expand and/or bend ever so slightly. For example, if I shoot 60 rounds rapidly (one shot per second) through my HK 93, round 60 will hit about an inch high and slightly to the left at 100 yards, as compared to shot No 1, which would be a perfect bullseye hit.
In the manual it says not to take the trigger adjustment screw out because if you do further adjustment is not possible. My question is…if you take the adjustment screw out and the spring…will it hurt the trigger, or just set the trigger to it's minimum poundage? I cannot get my trigger to go below 3 1/2 pound pull, any further adjustment makes the adjustment screw fall out…
Larry any trigger lighter than 3-1/2 lbs. is inviting trouble.
Why is everyone asking for a .308 version, there is a .308 version of this rifle and it is still around 500$ believe it or not. Just poke around on gunbroker.com and you can see plenty of these rifles chambered for 7.62 / .308. Happy hunting.
Recently purchased a MVP Predator. Fired 50 rounds after careful break in. Was using new Norma cases, 55 grain bullets, various powders including H322, IMR 4198, and 4895. Also used a 24X scope.
I couldn't believe these groups! The best 5 shot group was a tad over 1 1/2″. The worst, a whooping 3 3/4″. The rest of the groups were from 2" to 3″.
Now the cases have been fire formed, I will use Berger and Sierra bullets. If accuracy does not dramatically improve, the rifle will be up for sale!
You sound like an experienced hand-loader, but why not try factory ammo as a control? If it still shoots poorly, I would send it back to Mossberg rather than simply dump it onto the secondary market (where it becomes someone else's problem). I really dislike that practice, and consider it to be unethical.
The shooter at the gun store where I bought the gun, said the I-9 twist would not stabilize 52 grain bullets, and encouraged me to get a box of sierra 69 grain bullets, that they would be much better choice and would stabilize. The review above seems to show that bullets from 40 to 55 grain will work quite nicely. Now I'm really confused??? As far as using factory ammo, if I cant reload and get better groups, I'll hang my guns for good!
I disagree with the guy who told you that a 1 in 9 twist will not stabilize lighter .223 bullets. As the review indicates, my best groups were shot using 40 grain pills.
Well, I have to agree with you. The proof is in the photos of your groups. I'm going to load up the 50, now fire formed cases to shoot tomorrow. will use a few sierra 52 grain # 1410, a few of the 69 grain, #1380, I bought today, on the advice of my dealer, and the rest will be my 52 grain Bergers. Any suggestions as to where in the range of start loads, to hot loads I should start. I tend to load rather lightly, no point in wearing out a barrel in the first year. I shoot paper only.
Thanks for you advice. By the way, I use a Lee neck collet sizing die to keep from working the brass too much. Any experience with the collet dies?
I currently have and use a Ruger No. 1, 223 Rem., and reload for it. The Mossberg MVP uses case in length and COL that concerns me if my 223 s are shot in the Mossberg will the cases be usable again in the Ruger?
John. This gun will not alter your 223 cases. I shoot both 5.56 and .223 out of mine and it doesn't affect the weapon or the casings.
I have a Predator version with a swfa 10×42 scope, with fiocchi 50 gr vmax i have shot a 3 out of 5 shot group that measured 0.25″ edge to edge group!! Take it for what it is, but I have no reason to lie. This kind of grouping is not always achievable but I always get at least 3/4″ ctc groups. Awesome accuracy for an $850 combo, need to try some Black Hills to see how much is me vs the fiocchi ammo.
I know this is a late comment on this, but I recently purchased the MVP 556 Predator Scoped, and even with the cheaper scope I was shooting subs at 75yds with AMC 55gr and even Wolf 55gr Steelies. Only thing I have done is change the trigger pull weight. The first time I shot it it startled me because it seemed like I just barely put my finger on trigger, but then again I'm a heavy Ar15/M4 shooter/Operator. Overall this firearm is bad ass(excuse the french for the virgin ears) I love it, and the PMAG Gen III Windows work like a charm. I do now have 2.5 x 9 x 40mm Weaver and its a dream. Definitely recommend to anyone who wants a budget bolt shooter they will love!
Outstanding review because it provided important insights without any puff. I fancy a gun with factory iron sights AND a rail for optics option. These days iron sight equipped rifles are getting scarce.
Your notes on magazine well depth says to me to stay with 10 round mags. The added benefit is being unobstructed shooting from a sand bag (or automobile hood) the mag won't occlude. Ten rounders even fit in your pocket and you can always keep several pre-loaded so there's no real dividend to having 30 rounder.
Very cool rifle, love the bolt action no sweat about any excess barrel heat. AR mag compatible is wonderful but make mine a .308 with Scout compatible mags!
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