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Anyone watching?
"Ray Donovan" on Showtime
|by Anonymous
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Perhaps one of the actors I hate the most. He's a total douchebag I hear from my friends who've worked with him.
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He may be a douchebag, but he's a great actor. My favorite of his films was A Walk on the Moon.
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I've heard the same, but maybe that's why I kind of liked it - he plays a total douche bag, and it fits . Think It has potential. The Jon Voight character looks like a good enemy for Schriber.
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He's a sexy man. Plus I love that his nickname is "Huggy."
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Great show. Just watched the pilot. Those evil Catholics. Irish Sopranos. Priest/altar boy relations and consequences.
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This Ray Donovan series is GOOD.
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He even LOOKS like a douchebag r1
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Loved the Chicks with Dicks subplot. Think there will be a lot of "loosely based on actual events" intrigue. It worked for YEARS on Law & Order, no doubt there is FAR more such material in LA. I WILL be watching. Especially since he dyed that pervey stalker green!
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Why is he so hateful and douchey?
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How appropriate to have Austin Nichols in that plotline.
It KILLS me that Jon Voight is so good in this.
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Liev Schreiber is an absolute black hole as an actor. Too lightweight. No substance, no gravitas. Totally wrong for a role like this. There's a reason he's not a star.
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I agree that Jon Voight is excellent in this.
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[quote]he dyed that pervy stalker green
Yeah, where did that come from?
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R11, that is such an...other than astute comment. I could not agree with you LESS. Liev is terrific.
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I think Liev Schreiber is very good in the role. Strong, silent and imposing. That's the character in a nutshell. Why is Ray Donovan such an asshole? Have you noticed that his father is clearly a douchebag?
Jon Voight is excellent, btw...damn it.
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I won't watch it because I detest Jon Voight that much. He's repulsive.
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This is similar to the Courtney Cox vehicle "Dirt" in the way that it appropriates the real personal lives of HW types into the plot. It's nicely done. Of course, the person Ray is based on has one of the worst reputations ever.
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It is hard to watch Jon Voight, R16. True.
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The second episode continued the wonderfulness of this new show.
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R17, I thought of "Dirt" also when watching RD. Who is the Ray Donovan character supposed to be based on?
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The first four episodes of this were all very good. The third episode in particular I loved. Can't wait to see the rest of the series now.
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RE 17 Is the person he's based on that sleeze ( who's in prison), Anthony Pelicano? If not , who ?
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You got it, r22. I will try and mark out who the characters are supposed to be as the season progresses. I invite others to join me in making the Roman à clef.
There is some amalgamation going on with the movie star character, naturally he can't be based on only one guy.
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r21 but haven't there only been four episodes aired thus far? :O
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R24 Hence R21's tag "Showtime Spy."
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R24, there've only been two episodes aired so far.
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I saw the pilot through Showtime On Demand. It was so goddamned slow and dull that I had no problem writing this off. And given the fact that piece of shit Jon Voight is a series regular, [italic]Ray Donovan[/italic] deserves to fail.
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I can't stand that Schriber guy. Mediocre actor, who spends most of his time mumbling. Plus he's so fuckin ugly he's hard to look at.
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R27, what are some of your TV favorites?
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So is the son gay or what?
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Want to like it but much of the first two episodes were too pat or far-fetched. Could use a touch of subtlety.
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It looks as if we're going to find out, R30.
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They're setting him up with the Austin Nichols character, right? What that says about Nichols's character is actually kind of gross: He's gay! He's into transexuals! He likes little boys!
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I'm trying to like it, but I despise Voight, and that's making it difficult.
The Hollywood Fixer part is interesting, but I'm already bored by brothers and their endless problems. That reminds me of all the freaks back on the compound in Big Love, and I don't see where it's going to go anywhere.
When he gets the fax about the dead priest at the end of the last episode, was that smile a "glad to see he got what was coming to him" smile, or a "now I've got something on Dad" smile?
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I don't know. It's well done. But yet another cable show with "edge" or it's "dark" or whatever you want to call it. Schreiber is a good actor but hardly conventionally attractive--and that's a plus for me. I guess it's better than Boardwalk Empire. But geez, you watch enough of these cable shows and you feel like jumping out a window.
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Interesting, R35, comparing it to Boardwalk Empire. I couldn't sit through two episodes of that, but I am loving Ray Donovan.
R34, I'm not sure what that smile meant either. It's not clear from Ray's flashbacks whether he, too, was molested by a priest.
R33, yeah, I think Tommy and Conor are going to be some sort of a thing, though I'm not sure how far they'll let it go. Conor may not let Tommy into his pants, even as cool as Conor thinks -- any boy would think -- Tommy is.
I guess celebrities hold sway over us the way the Catholic Church did, is the point of this storyline. Because of Ray's powerful position, when his son's molestation happens -- and I guess it "happens in families" -- it will be at the hands of a Tom Cruise-like figure. They even named him "Tommy."
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[quote]it will be at the hands of a Tom Cruise-like figure. They even named him "Tommy.
Oh, never made that connection, good call. What's great is that Cruise's people certainly did make the connection, and you know it's driving them crazy.
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I think Liev Schreiber's best performance is as a cross-dresser in "Mixed Nuts." Seriously. It was the first time I'd ever seen him and it's the role with which I immediately identify him.
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So the storyline about the actor getting busted for picking up a transvestite is CLEARLY based on Eddie Murphy. Ray Donovan is Paul Barresi.
Only instead of throwing the tranny out the window, Ray gives him/her money for his operation. Ray is Paul Barresi with with heart of GOLD.
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R39 - Paul Barresi?? You are out of your mind.
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I am so loving Ray Donovan. He is slick, sexy and tough. I too loved him In one of my favorite films Walk on the Moon.
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I'm not out of my mind. Read the account of PB's involvement in the Eddie Murphy scandal. I'm not saying Donovan is BASED on him, but in that situation he is the Barrisi.
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I loved Walk on the Moon, too, R41. Liev as a red hot Jewboy in 1969: what's not to love?
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Another good episode.
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I LOVE this show.
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Bunchy lied about getting molested. You can figure out the rest.
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I loathe Jon Voight, too, but he's quite good in this. Joe Buck is brilliant at playing sleazeballs.
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Didn't think I'd like the show, but I like it more after every episode. Ray Donovan is not the greatest actor, but is hot, and that sort of evens it out for me. I've never liked Jon Voight, but must admit he's great at playing a bastard. I think the son is gay, or at least is leaning that way.
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[quote]I think Liev Schreiber's best performance is as a cross-dresser in "Mixed Nuts."
He was also good as a cross-dresser in "Taking Woodstock."
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To R48:
That smile on his face as he watched the poster on the side of the bus of that actor in rehab - along with Mickey asking him if he were gay when they were shopping pretty much said it all.
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I really like this show
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Holy shit. If true, it all makes sense why Bunchy is all weird about the settlement money and uncomfortable in that group of guys who actually *did* get molested.
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The best thing about the show is Paula Malcolmson.
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Enough with the shrew wife already! I cannot believe there is one single person watching this show who doesn't want to see much, much less of her storyline.
Or, at least, I believed that until I read this:
[quote]The best thing about the show is Paula Malcolmson.
I think she's the worst thing about the show, although the fugly daughter and Voight's obnoxious character are close. Voight's character needs to be a LOT more interesting for me to think it's worthwhile putting up with his vile presence on screen.
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I can't say I found this week's episode all that gripping. I'm all for slow burns, but they need to just come out and tell us what's going on with Elliot Gould. I'm dangerously close to hitting the FF button every time he appears.
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With the exception of Elliot Gould and Peter Jacobsen I have yet to find a likable character. I only watch it because I can't find anything else to watch.
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R54, I just love Paula. I think she's the most underrated actress around.
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|reply 57
Can I have a falafel with hot sauce, a side order of Baba Ghanoush and a seltzer, please?
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|reply 58
It's been renewed for season 2. I hope Austin Nichols is in it more.
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Original music is A+
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How gay is Liev?
He is like the ultimate bear. Any chance that he and Naomi Watts are both bi?
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R53 = her PR or her agent.
Just watched the latest episode on demand. I hate her character, she is unwatchable esp without make-up. her voice is annoying as fuck.
I hope Ray divorces her.
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WHO THE FUCK WANTS TO SEE JON VOIGHT FUCKING ON SCREEN???? eeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!
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Big ol Mary at R63. Get a grip.
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Lots of homosexuality on this show.
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[quote]Lots of homosexuality on this show.
It would be better if they have Tommy Wheeler as a regular.
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The wife character is too much like Carmela Soprano, they need to give her something to do.
I liked when the son Connor, donked that little shithead son of the creepy guy.
John V's character is growing on me. The scenes with Bunchy and his brother at the pool were funny and also when Bunchy pulled the stolen cognac from his pants at the restaurant.
The FBI agent is weird, I loved seeing Mickey (J.Voight) dancing and drugging at the Buggy Whip.
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Just found this show. Pretty good so far!
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FYI, for anyone watching ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK on Netflix, Liev's half-brother, Pablo plays the creepy, evil guard aptly nicknamed 'Pornstache'
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Last night's episode was great (7/28/13) . Lots going on . The Elliott Gould car hit, handcuffed in the bathroom, Donavan's kid getting drunk, and vomiting on the rapper's watches, and the poor sap, Terry , finding out his new girlfriend is married. It's picking up, and I'm loving it.
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Exactly right, R70. LOTS of story lines. A lot to follow. Do we know yet what Elliot Gould and Peter Jacobson actually do? Lawyers? Still confusing things.
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Forgot about the wanna be rapper's mother being killed. A lot in that show.
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I thought he vomited on his dad's watches.
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I agree, R73. They were in their own home, which seemed rather foolish because I don't think their mom or Ray would take kindly to finding them drunk, smoking pot, and making out with the little rapper neighbor.
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does Liev Schreiber have much hair in his anus?
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I used to love the show "Dirt" but "Ray Donovan" is a much better show. And I'm so happy to see my girl Katherine Moennig again - she's hot as ever! Hope they expand her role.
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Would someone please explain to me what is likeable about this show. I keep watching it because there is nothing else on but with the exception of Jon Voight's character, I these characters are terrible.
Ray's an asshole, his wife is a Carmen Soprano wannabe, the kids are OK but nothing special and Ray's brothers are dirtbags. Usually when the characters are this dark you can find a redeeming quality in them.
Eliot Gould and Peter Jacobsen are good but not on long enough. So what is it?
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I think Francis getting paid by Ray to date and have sex with Terry.
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[quote]And I'm so happy to see my girl Katherine Moennig again - she's hot as ever!
Who does she play here?
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[quote]Ray's an asshole, his wife is a Carmen Soprano wannabe, the kids are OK but nothing special and Ray's brothers are dirtbags. Usually when the characters are this dark you can find a redeeming quality in them.
You know R77, they have channels now that only have shows like The Brady Bunch, Happy Days, The Golden Girls, etc. You might like that!
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[quote]Who does she play here?
Lena, Ray's assistant.
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Last week's episode ended with Voight at a gay club dancing and doing poppers. Couldn't figure out how that related to the plot.
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R80, I get that this is a dark drama but usually there is some heart in these characters-something that makes you like them even though they do terrible things.I'm trying to like this show but it's hard.
BTW, I think the best scene so far was Jon Voight in the gay bar. He seems to be the only one with personality.
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Terry is one of the few characters I truly care about (Eddie Marsan is just genius in whatever he does), so my heart broke for him when he showed up at her house. You just knew he was going to go there and of course find out she has some sort of "secret" after being evasive about seeing him that night "Can I see you tonight?" "Maybe".
He is so painfully shy and emotionally wounded he probably hasn't had sex or a date with a woman in years. She pursued him. She obviously gets out of the house. She seems to be jealous of the dead girlfriend/wife. She knows he has her cellphone and work numbers. Maybe she's not really married, or there is some type of explanation for this.
How could a nurse who is (supposedly) educated and seems like a nice and kind person not know you don't screw with the head of a really shy guy,a BOXER with Parkinson's (who could still beat someone to a pulp) , who tattooed a woman's name on his body because she meant something important to him? It's obvious he doesn't have money so what would be in this for her other than really liking him?
Hopefully this turns out to be a terrible mistake. Otherwise, there's not really another truly sympathetic character to root for. If Frances is toying with him,(or a hooker paid for by Ray--I doubt it) then he will either explode after years of mental and physical pain and hurt her, or else he will go back in his shell and never come out again.
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It's called complicated characters people - and it's what many of us are in real life. That's why the show is so interesting, and will unfortunately not run that long, because mass audiences (at least here , in the US) like everything spelled out for them, and don't get nuance, or subtlety.
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True R85, But because it is on Showtime, it has a shot. Thankfully, for people who actually like great story lines and complicated characters, there are channels like HBO, Showtime and FX and A&E.
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There are alot of good shows on cable with complicated characters. I just don't think this is one of them
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[quote]There are alot of good shows on cable with complicated characters. I just don't think this is one of them
Agreed. I really had hopes for this. It started out promisingly, but more and more it feels like an imitation of a top-shelf cable show. There's just something missing from its core. There's no undercurrent to pull you through, just lots of cool surface details.
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R88 nailed it.
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[quote]R88] nailed it.
LOL, because they agreed with you.
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I just started watching. I love it and I have always respected Schreiber as an actor but he's the male equivalent of a buttaface. Great bod but he looks like a lipless chipmunk.
A relative of mine met him in NY. She posted pics of her with him and said he was really nice. Maybe he's a dick to crew but he's nice to his fans and that's pretty cool.
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I also want to like this show mostly because of Schreiber, There really is no depth to the stories and characters.
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What was the point of Mickey going to the gay bar? Is he bisexual?
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[quote]What was the point of Mickey going to the gay bar? Is he bisexual?
No, it's just the writers being "edgy" and "outrageous".
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Well, he did give that little speech to his grandson about how getting your dick sucked by another guy doesn't make you a fag--a mouth's a mouth, he said. He was probably getting nostalgic for some of the kind of man-sucking he got in prison.
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[quote] Agreed. I really had hopes for this. It started out promisingly, but more and more it feels like an imitation of a top-shelf cable show. There's just something missing from its core. There's no undercurrent to pull you through, just lots of cool surface details.
I agree. I've recently started watching it on demand and I really wanted to like it. But it doesn't make sense in so many ways. A clued-in guy like Ray would know that his fathers getting out 5 years early and showing up in LA immediately after release means someone wants him to inform. I mean, ever heard of parole? You don't just get released 5 years early and get on the next plan to CA.
The brothers don't interest me. I can't see how anyone would be sexually or otherwise interested in the mute, morose, Parkinsonian Terry, even if she was once held in a cellar by Jame Gumb and told to put the lotion on her skin.
I couldn't tell the different between the stalker and the guy who was banging the blonde chick.
I have to read recaps of episodes to find out what's going on. I guess my mind wanders. I didn't know who the black guy was who was staple-gunned.
It's Mystic River in LA but it doesn't work. It's all plot and no heart.
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You're all nuts and have been watching too many Real Housewives shit on Bravo.
This is a really good show.
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Won't be watching tonight. Showtime blocked courtesy Time Warner Cable.
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|reply 98
I wanted to like this show but it's not as great as I thought it would be.
I won't be watching it tonight thanks to TWC but I won't miss it.
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|reply 99
Yet another person here who really wanted to like this show, but just hasn't been impressed.
For me, the biggest problem is too much boring family shit (seriously, I don't give a fuck about any of them), not remotely enough Hollywood fixing.
|by Anonymous
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Exactly R100. If you're going to do all that boring Irish American Boston shit then why bother setting the show in LA? It's like "We're doing a gritty tv show version of Mystic River but we know we can't get away with it so we'll thrown in a bit of Hollywood glitz."
I already saw Mystic River and The Departed.
I'm not interested in the -down-on-his-luck-boxer-brother. This isn't 1956 and we're not on the waterfront. I don't care about the pretend-abused-by-a-priest-brother or the OMG-I-have-a-black-brother or the -dead-sister-who-will-be-shown-in-flashbacks-and-was-probably-pushed-off-the-roof.
And can nobody find Irish American actors? Even an Affleck or a Wahlberg would do. Can you imagine Tony and Janice Soprano being played by Jewish actors of Eastern European descent? Come on. My best friend has an enormously talented nephew who is Irish American who could slide right into one of the show's roles. It's not as if they don't exist. Hollywood used to be full of Irish American actors. Even the wife isn't Irish American, she's an Irish actress (which is totally not the same as Irish Anerican).
Yeah, I know actors of different backgrounds can play characters, but again, take a look at the Sopranos. The fact that the show's creator and the actors are almost all Italian gave it real heart and cred. I grew up around northeastern Italian Americans and the Sopranos nailed it. Not the criminal aspect of it -- the family aspect, the food, the heart of it.
This show has no heart because it's a bunch of people who aren't Irish American writing a show about Boston Irish Americans played by people who aren't Irish American. There's not a speck of authenticity. Then they plop it down in LA. It's a mish mosh. It wants to be gritty, glitzy, modern, nostalgic. It doesn't work.
I wish it did.
|by Anonymous
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yeah, R101, I agree. They should get rid of the wife, she's really annoying. Ray should divorce the wife and hook up with all the hollyweird actresses, musicans etc. The show will be more interesting that way.
Please don't make us watch sex scenes with Jon Voight. Nobody wants to see that!
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|reply 102
Theyre trying to do a "he's a family man, but he's a criminal. How will he balance the two lives?" a la Tony Soprano. But nobody's interested. He's in Hollywoof, for Christ's sake, not north jersey. Show us how the underside of Hollywood works, not how the underside of Hollywood works when a family man tries to balance two lives. Hollywood overshadows the petty criminal background and dysfunctionality of this loser family. Get on with it.
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|reply 103
So now this thread is basically just a circle jerk of how much a few of you hate the show.
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I've only seen three or four eps and I'm not sure if the wife knows what he does for a living and I don't really care.
|by Anonymous
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As opposed to a circle jerk of those praising the show.
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I don't hate the show and I'm still watching but I have to agree with R101. and R103. I'm trying, but I find the show difficult to follow and boring at times. I am capable of following complex plots and characters but this show just doesn't grab me. I agree with the previous poster who said that Micky Donovan is the most (only?) interesting character on the show. The wife is awful and annoying. The brothers are boring. I would like to see more of the Hollywood angle and less of the Boston/Irish/gangster angle.
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|reply 107
Not even Ray Donovan could fix this steaming pile of shit.
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|reply 108
James Woods laying in bed with a woman his own age. Now I've seen everything.
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I've never met anyone outside of Boston who has a heavy Boston accent. When people from Boston move elsewhere, they become acutely aware of their Boston accents because everyone keeps remarking upon it.
"Did you just say cahhh for car? OMG!"
They quickly adopt a less region-specific way of talking, except for the older generations of Kennedys.
So the wife's crazy annoying Boston accent is just stupid. It's exaggerated to begin with and she would have toned it down in LA.
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|reply 110
I've watched 3.5 episodes and these Irish Anerican boys have never mentioned their mother? That's soooo not Irish-American.
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|reply 111
Maybe they should call Ed Burns in as a writer.
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yeah, totally not realistic, have they even uttered "wicked" every other sentence yet? I don't recall....
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|reply 113
Ray's dad was in prison for 20 years. That means he went into prison in 1993. But he acts like he's been in a coma since 1973. Same with Ray's brothers. They're straight out of a Rocky movie. The gym, the house the brother buys both look like time capsules and both brothers dress and act like mopes brought into the hoosegow on an episode of Barney Miller.
The boxer brother never heard of the Internet to check and see if Jame Gumb's kidnapee is married? Come on. Eighty year olds have iPhones now. This show is time traveling between the present and 40 years ago.
And an FBI agent wouldn't know he's been drugged? Come on. As soon as his desk turned into water he'd know he be trippin and somebody slipped him something. And didn't he have photos of Avi in his basement? He didn't recognize him asking for napkins? And the FBI guy just happens to eat at a counter in a diner every morning and a seat just happened to be available next to him so he could be drugged?
Jon Voigt walks into a bank and demands they cash a 1.4M check on his word that it's real and tells them to hand his son $200? Like he's never been in a bank before and doesn't know how they work? What is he, Balky from Perfect Strangers? Mork from Ork?
This show is too unbelievable.
But that monkey was awesome.
|by Anonymous
|reply 114
It's obvious Ray was raped by Mickey
Why else would he be so mad at Mickey? The whole vibe of the show is about male rape.
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|reply 115
I am always amused by Mickey and Bunchy. I can't stand the wife or daughter. I don't think they should have messed with the Armenians.
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|reply 116
I like the hot daddy bear FBI agent.
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|reply 117
Good episode this week. Did anyone watch?
|by Anonymous
|reply 118
No, because of fucking Cunt Broadcasting Service.
I don't miss it really. But I miss dexter a lot.
|by Anonymous
|reply 119
I tried to watch this show, but it was too gross-stupid.
|by Anonymous
|reply 120
I'm with R100. Based on the pilot I thought this was going to be a show focused on Ray's job as a Hollywood fixer. The most interesting parts were about Austin Nichols' closeted actor, the athlete with the dead hooker, and the singer with the stalker. But subsequent episodes put all the focus onto Ray's family. Personally, I could not possibly care less about watching a damaged boxer or guy who was molested by a priest. (And, seriously, wtf kind of name is Bunchy? Only on TV.) I also have no fucking clue what the point of Elliott Gould's character was. And I have no idea why Katherine Moennig even exists on this show.
|by Anonymous
|reply 121
They should really get rid of Ray's wife, get a divorce or something, she is unwatchable.
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[quote]But I miss dexter a lot.
You aren't missing anything.
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|reply 123
How many more episodes are there for this season?
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|reply 125
Jon Voight gets better every week.
|by Anonymous
|reply 126
Loving it still.
|by Anonymous
|reply 127
I don't get all the negative remarks regarding this show here. Is everyone that programmed to expect such story lines to not like this new approach?
|by Anonymous
|reply 128
[quote]I don't get all the negative remarks regarding this show here.
Me either. I think some people just like to complain, R128.
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|reply 129
I think it has gotten better with each episode. Voight's character is a creepy fucker.. damn. The last episode gave me chills. Great stuff.
|by Anonymous
|reply 130
Wow! Getting caught up and this last episode was right up there with some of the best TV ever (Priest storyline). Again, wow!!
|by Anonymous
|reply 131
yes, it got more exciting. but I still hate the wife. Pls let her divorce him and take the kids.
Poor Ray, he was abused too...
|by Anonymous
|reply 132
I liked the show to start and ended the season loving it. The relationship between Ray and his (super creepy) father is very complex and fucked up. Same with his brothers. The whole thing just came together so well. James Woods was pretty exemplary too.
|by Anonymous
|reply 133
Showtime has a lot riding on this show.
Which doesn't necessarily mean there will be a Season 2.
|by Anonymous
|reply 134
I agree with the poster who said the Hollywood fixer storylines are more interesting but I think the show is pretty good anyway . They definitely need to show more background on Ezra or kill him off . Ray's wife is annoying I guess they want her to be.
|by Anonymous
|reply 135
I want to see more cover ups and Hollywood but like the Voight storyline and his performance is peerless.
|by Anonymous
|reply 136
I thought it had already been renewed, R134. No?
R135, they are slowly revealing Ezra's backstory. Are you always this impatient? I think it's moving in perfect time.
|by Anonymous
|reply 137
Also, R134, Austin Nichols tweeted yesterday:
[quote]RAY DONOVAN ended its season ranked as the highest-rated freshman series in SHOWTIME history, outpacing Homeland season one by 33%.
|by Anonymous
|reply 138
My favorite new show for sure. I love Bunchie. I just want to snuggle with him. Voight is quite good too. But I have to agree, its like he stepped out of 1973 and not 1993 when he would have gone to prison.
Didn't care for the story line about the daughter and the young rapper. Ray should have shot the kid or thrown him off a bridge.
The son was showing some skin in the last episode. He's a burgeoning twink.
|by Anonymous
|reply 139
Great season finale episode. Looking forward to next season.
|by Anonymous
|reply 140
I just finished watching the season finale. It surprises me that Ray would have named his son "Conor," given what happened with Father O'Connor. I know, I know. They're not the same name, but the sound is close enough, it's not a name I'd've given my son.
Cute guy, that Devin Bagby.
|by Anonymous
|reply 141
I LOVE this show. Don't get all the hate here. Typical DL bitchy queens I guess.
|by Anonymous
|reply 142
There's nothing these cunts love more than to hate, R142.
|by Anonymous
|reply 143
When does the new season start?
|by Anonymous
|reply 144
Season 2 starts June 29th
|by Anonymous
|reply 145
Thanks, R145. Can't wait.
|by Anonymous
|reply 146
Season 2 premiers tomorrow
|by Anonymous
|reply 147
Does anyone know if this will be coming to Netflix?
|by Anonymous
|reply 148
Am watching now, first scene is Ray fucking.
I do not want to see Angie's father fucking. there better not be any scenes of him naked.
|by Anonymous
|reply 149
One of my fave shows....but Ann-Maragaret looked flawless but 90% unrecognizable...so much plastic surgery...and I only recognized Sherilyn Fenn by her eyebrows....she could use a little nip tuck! Great show
|by Anonymous
|reply 150
I love this show and anticipate it every week, yet I feel like nobody else gives a shit and it is doomed to be cancelled after this season. Is it? I honestly could just watch Liev Schreiber and Ann-Margret in that swanky restaurant for an hour every week that scene was so fucking good (odd continuity errors notwithstanding). Any love?
|by Anonymous
|reply 151
I missed last season but watched the marathon Showtime did leading up to Season 2.
I love this show. I find it very engrossing. I love watching damaged people and almost everyone on this show is fucked in some way.
|by Anonymous
|reply 152
I must have missed a couple plot points.
What exactly does Hank Azaria's character want ? They made a point saying he was an honest cop yet to me he's allowing Ray to do underhanded shit. I thought he wanted to arrest him?
I also missed how Bunchy met the mom and kid.
I laughed when they showed the wife following a tutorial in how to lose her accent. Someone up thread had mentioned it made no sense for her to keep her Irish accent.
|by Anonymous
|reply 153
Bunchy was working in the bike store when the Mom & kid walked in. He overheard the fact that the Mom couldn't afford a bike for the kid so he put an affordable bike together for him and when they came to pick it up the Mom invited Bunchy to dinner.
I can't stand Ray's wife. She reminds me of Carmela Soprano - a bitch who just worries about material stuff.
Great acting and writing on this show.
|by Anonymous
|reply 154
I don't enjoy this show anymore. Not a single character worth rooting for.
|by Anonymous
|reply 155
The wife doesn't bother me as much as she does some of you.
I'd be a raging bitch too if I was married to Ray. He is not Husband of the Year material.
|by Anonymous
|reply 156
It's a great show and keeps you coming back.
Like sexy Liev, don't care if he is a douche, we do not know him personally.
He is a very good understated actor.
I wish they would do more local color scenes of L.A. though.
Well done show. Never liked Voight ever but he is good at playing the asshole he plays here.
|by Anonymous
|reply 157
[quote]What exactly does Hank Azaria's character want ? They made a point saying he was an honest cop yet to me he's allowing Ray to do underhanded shit. I thought he wanted to arrest him?
Well, it looks like the goody two-shoes image is starting to unravel in a big way. First he ordered his henchman Cochran to murder Tiny to shut him up and then he was shown playing dirty Scrabble with another couple and grabbing the other wife's tits. I got the distinct impression that they were alluding that Azaria and his wife are secretly swingers. Let the blackmailing begin!
|by Anonymous
|reply 158
You pervs are all drooling over an underage boy. Weird.
|by Anonymous
|reply 159
Not sure they are swingers, but it's clear that he has his flaws.
|by Anonymous
|reply 160
[quote]Not a single character worth rooting for.
I like Ray's flunky, the ex-Mossad Agent who watches tv with his mother. The girl flunky is also good.
I could do with less about the brothers and the boxing, and the whole subplot with the daughter is just a waste of time.
I wish they would do less on the family drama and more on Ray fixing problems for the celebrities.
|by Anonymous
|reply 161
I agree R161. Kate Moening & Steven Bauer are being wasted here. I find the celebrity stuff the most interesting.
|by Anonymous
|reply 162
I avoided this show, because of Jon Voight - but gave it a shot and really liked it. The only thing that really annoys me is the Boston accents, especially on the wife. Haven't they been in LA long enough for that accent to fade a bit. And I agree that I like the fixer storylines better than the family drama.
|by Anonymous
|reply 163
So, what's the deal with Bunchie and the kid and the bicycle? Was he being nice, was he after mom, or is a pedophile?
|by Anonymous
|reply 164
[quote] Does anyone know if this will be coming to Netflix?
This site streams it for free
click "close ad and continue as a free user"
click "start the video"
Popups will appear before you start the video. Just click out of any popups. You do not ever have to update or install any type of player. Disregard that they are just ads. If something is on the screen that says, "Your player does not support this". Ignore it and click the X to get out of it. Just X out of any ads that show up
|by Anonymous
|reply 165
Brent Spiner - Data from Star Trek - plays the therapist. This is a great series. I am glad I started watching it.
|by Anonymous
|reply 166
[quote]So, what's the deal with Bunchie and the kid and the bicycle? Was he being nice, was he after mom, or is a pedophile?
My guess is that he felt empathetic towards the kid, having had his own troubled childhood and being pretty much still a child himself emotionally. There may be some attempt at a romance with the mom and that will probably turn out very badly. Has Bunch ever actually had sex with a woman? I vaguely remember his dad trying to hook him up with a prostitute but I think that fell through because Bunchy got all nervous about it. He seemed so uncomfortable during that dinner, like he had no clue how to act, and the only time he was relaxed was when he interacted with the kid.
|by Anonymous
|reply 167
Just watched this week's show.
Why did Hank Azaria's character go along with Ray's ruse for the writer ?
That totally confused me because Hank was crazy angry that Ray was able to get Mickey released.
Anybody ?
|by Anonymous
|reply 168
Loved last night's show (Connor's birthday). Could it have been any worse? Family gatherings can be very stressful. :)
Father and son dancing at the end: PERFECT!
|by Anonymous
|reply 169
Ray's brothers look inbred.
|by Anonymous
|reply 170
Another great episode last night. It truly is a great show. I wish that I didn't like crazy ass Jon Voight in this, but he is so funny.
|by Anonymous
|reply 171
Perhaps Bunchie is a pedophile. There was a reason he seemed uncomfortable when the kid put his head in his lap.
|by Anonymous
|reply 172
[quote] I wish they would do less on the family drama and more on Ray fixing problems for the celebrities
I can't even be bothered to hate the family. There is nothing interesting about the brothers, the wife or the kids. I don't even dislike them. I just don't care about them at all
I think it would be much more interesting if they talked about how Ray came to California and how he got started. They could have him interact with some of the celebs he helped get out of trouble when he first came to Hollywood. They had Ann Margaret on the show and they didn't give her anything to do. They wasted her. They should have written an entire episode around her. They should have built a big backstory around her. Even if she wasn't a big part of the story, they could have had Ray and Elliott Gould's character talk about her character. They could have referred to how they helped her out years ago or what type of trouble her character might have gotten herself into back then
|by Anonymous
|reply 173
Man, Elliott Gould is not good in this. And much to my dismay, Voight is very good.
|by Anonymous
|reply 174
R174, I agree that Gould is very weak in this show, playing that repulsive lawyer. The actor who plays Sean Walker is also pretty bad.
|by Anonymous
|reply 175
Frank Whaley in season 1 looked like a drag king.
|by Anonymous
|reply 176
[quote]Perhaps Bunchie is a pedophile. There was a reason he seemed uncomfortable when the kid put his head in his lap.
He was uncomfortable because he had a hard-on from the Viagra he popped.
|by Anonymous
|reply 177
I'm a couple of episodes behind (just watched "Irish Spring"). Jon Voight is the best part of the show. Liev Schreiber is also very good. I thought Ray had chemistry with the reporter (he has none with his wife but perhaps that's deliberate).
I agree that the wife and kids are a waste of time and I'd much rather see more focus on Ray the Fixer.
One thing I missed in "Irish Spring" was how they got the FBI guy to go along with the scam on the reporter. Is it because Ray knows about his wife-swapping? Or is it a mutually agreed upon cover-up based on what happened with Sully? I need to watch the last episode of S1 because I'm not real clear on what happened on the pier.
|by Anonymous
|reply 178
Last night's show ended in such a tense shocker. I actually screamed.
Ray now has to "fix" the biggest mess of his career. From the previews it looks like it all goes south pretty quickly.
|by Anonymous
|reply 179
Last week and this week have been the strongest episodes of the series so far. I hope the show retains its flavor with a new showrunner taking over, but with such a strong second season and David Hollander responsible (the new showrunner) for this week's ep I am cautiously optimistic. This season has been superb and I hope Schreiber directs more, too.
|by Anonymous
|reply 180
I'm fairly new to the show and still trying to figure out who's who. What is up with that couple from the beach house? And was that Sherilyn Fenn????? If so, she's unrecognizable now. She used to be so beautiful.
|by Anonymous
|reply 181
The wife needs to die in a grease fire.
|by Anonymous
|reply 182
I think Ms Fenn is still very pretty. She's adorable in this role. We can't all stay young a beautiful forever.
|by Anonymous
|reply 183
Please, no more Abby Donovan nude or sex scenes.
|by Anonymous
|reply 184
Does anybody else think Abby will get offed by the end of the season? I hope they keep Eion Bailey around... his character is weird and fun (for now).
Since creator/showrunner Ann Biderman is leaving, it would make sense that Abby would be killed off or written off and the show would focus more on Ray and his various duties next year and less on the domestic stuff, especially since a lot of the episodes written by the new showrunner (David Hollander) have had more action and less Abby, this week excluded.
|by Anonymous
|reply 185
Hot damn. I could watch a naked Liev walk into the ocean all day.
|by Anonymous
|reply 186
Which episode is that R186?
|by Anonymous
|reply 187
The most recent one. At least it is for me. I live in the UK so I'm not sure it's on the same release schedule as the US. It's Season 2 episode 11 (I think). The very last scene of the episode.
|by Anonymous
|reply 188
I still think something bad is going to happen between the pedophile action star actor and Ray's kid Connor. They've been hinting around at it for two seasons now. Connor is infatuated with the guy, and the guy keeps texting him, etc.
|by Anonymous
|reply 189
Is Austin (the movie star) a pedophile or just into transvestites and/or barely legals? Wasn't the whole storyline last year that he was caught with a female prostitute who was actually male?
Either way, I think that there will be more to his interactions with Connor sooner or later, too.
|by Anonymous
|reply 190
Liev Schreiber is so hot. It's hard to believe his tv wife would cheat on him. Lacks credibility. His body is gorgeous.
Is that full frontal of him real?
|by Anonymous
|reply 191
I enjoyed this season, more than last season.
|by Anonymous
|reply 192
Great episode last night! Shit, poor Terry.
|by Anonymous
|reply 193
Mickey has managed to fuck over everyone. That parole officer is probably fucked now too, since he didn't manage to implicate Mickey. This show gets better and better.
|by Anonymous
|reply 194
Please no more Abby Donovan. She is so obnoxious and unappealing this season that I think they must have to kill her off. Figure Cookie Brown comes for Bridget and Abby gets killed instead. Crossing my fingers...
|by Anonymous
|reply 195
Yeah, I can't stand his wife as well, but who will look after the kids if she dies?
This show has gotten better. Mickey fucks up everything. Everything he touches turns to shit.
|by Anonymous
|reply 196
You just know Connor is gonna get finger popped by the action star.
|by Anonymous
|reply 197
[quote]Yeah, I can't stand his wife as well
|by Anonymous
|reply 198
Abby may be a bitch and Ray may be sexy as hell but I don't blame her for cheating. He sucks as a husband.
He's been cheating for years. He is rarely home and is very withholding about his feelings or what sort of risks he puts his family through.
He had also gotten to the point where he was very rough during sex without bothering to get her wet before ramming her.
If he doesn't wake up that reporter is going to take him and everyone else down. He needs to off her.
|by Anonymous
|reply 199
[quote]He needs to off her.
From your mouth to Avi's ears, R199.
|by Anonymous
|reply 200
I was in a principal position on two Broadway shows which starred Liev Schreiber. He is an exemplary man and actor. He sets a high bar for himself and those around him and both productions were better for it. This other talk is sheer nonsense.
|by Anonymous
|reply 201
It was an amazing finale last night. Thi is one of the most interesting and exciting shows. I can't wait for the return.
Liev is a great actor and very sexy.
|by Anonymous
|reply 202
It was a really good finale. The only disappointment was (spoiler alert!) Abby didn't die. I was on the fence about this show in S1, but it really came into its own in S2. It doesn't seem to get much love from critics, though.
|by Anonymous
|reply 203
With 2 million watching the 9 PM show, the Season 2 finale of Hollywood fixer series Ray Donovan was up 40% from the 1.41 million who tuned in for the Season 1 ender on September 22 last year, which benefited from following the record-breaking series finale of Dexter. Even with the announced departure of creator-showrunner Ann Biderman, this season has seen Ray Donovan hit new highs on a couple of occasions. The show's September 14 airing drew a series-high 1.8 million viewers — and that's against NBC's powerhouse Sunday Night Football. Last night's multi-story finale jumped 61% from the 1.22 million who watched its Season 2 opener on July 13.
|by Anonymous
|reply 204
I think that Ray killing Cookie made Abbey love him again. He, not the cop protected her family.
I want to see the hot crazy guy in jail, taking showers, anything to get him naked.
|by Anonymous
|reply 205
Hot crazy guy is really great in that role. Can't stand the blonde bitch girlfriend with the bad wig.
|by Anonymous
|reply 206
Right, R205, Abby was looking at Ray with stars in her eyes. I wish he would kick her to the curb but that's unlikely to happen.
|by Anonymous
|reply 207
Can someone give me a brief rundown of what happened in the season finale ?
|by Anonymous
|reply 208
R208, I'm trying to remember...
-Ray leaked the sex tape of FBI guy (swingers)
-Ray reports to authorities about a body being buried in the Ruth's Memorial hospital (or whatever that place is called)
-the blonde reporter is shot and killed.
-Ray's father wins a million dollars at the racetrack. He put 20K (from the robbery) all on 1 horse.
|by Anonymous
|reply 209
R209, and he killed the fuck outta Cookie Brown, yo!!
|by Anonymous
|reply 210
Also the inspirational guru was arrested. Ray found out that he pushed the blonde chick's stalker off the balcony onto the rocks below.
|by Anonymous
|reply 211
How did Ray kill Cookie Brown ? Cookie's always surrounded by guards.
|by Anonymous
|reply 212
John Voight stole this season.
|by Anonymous
|reply 213
Season 2 was better and more consistent than Season 1.
|by Anonymous
|reply 214
R212, watch the show!
|by Anonymous
|reply 215
Who do think leaked the video of the rappers' murders? Was it a cop on the take working for Cookie? The Harvey Levin type guy @ Stalkerrazzi? Did the kid or his Dad make copies and sell it/them?
|by Anonymous
|reply 216
When does season 3 start?
|by Anonymous
|reply 217
Awesome show. "We wouldn't have to put up with this shit in Bel-Air!"
|by Anonymous
|reply 218
I believe Season 3 starts in July.
|by Anonymous
|reply 219
I love this show and haven't had the opportunity to see the second season. I'm avoiding reading the thread so as not to spoil.
"We wouldn't have to put up with this shit in Bel-Air!"
|by Anonymous
|reply 220
Season 3 (starring Ian McShane and Katie Holmes) premiers this Sunday, July 12.
|by Anonymous
|reply 221
[quote]I just started watching. I love it and I have always respected Schreiber as an actor but he's the male equivalent of a buttaface. Great bod but he looks like a lipless chipmunk.
No arguments about taste. I think he's fine as fuck.
|by Anonymous
|reply 222
S1 was "meh" but the show found its legs in S2. Hopefully we'll see less of annoying Abby in S3. She sucks the life out of every scene she's in. Ian McShane should be interesting. I watched a preview and was surprised how tiny he is compared to Liev. Not too sure about Katie Holmes.
|by Anonymous
|reply 223
Elliott Gould is awful in this, the worst of all the actors.
|by Anonymous
|reply 224
Did anyone here watch the season premiere?
|by Anonymous
|reply 225
Yes. Still loving Jon Voight in this.
Good news, R224. You won't have to see him anymore.
Interesting tidbit: the lady who plays Elliott Gould's wife is Bing Crosby's granddaughter.
|by Anonymous
|reply 226
A tantalising glimpse of shirtless Conor in the pool this week. Is the actor legal?
|by Anonymous
|reply 227
I'm enjoying this season so far. Abby is not as annoying when she's away from Ray, so it was a good move on the part of the writers to put her in Boston for a couple of episodes. Katie Holmes is okay. Hopefully the braces detract from any sex appeal she might have had, so Ray won't fuck her. It's nice to see Ian McShane. I love Mickey. He's such a worthless POS and his schemes always end badly, but his family keeps getting sucked in, even when they should know better.
|by Anonymous
|reply 228
I hope the female wrestler Bunchy's hot for stays away. Hard to watch that dynamic play out.
|by Anonymous
|reply 229
I had the weirdest dream about Devon Bagby (Conor), in which he paid me to change his name. I don't remember what I changed it to.
|by Anonymous
|reply 230
I just finished the first season, save a couple episodes. Most of it was available for free on On Demand, if anyone has Xfinity. No doubt to entice people into subscribing to Showtime, which I am very disappointed to say is not an option. I really like what I've seen of the show.
|by Anonymous
|reply 231
I saw season one and two...it's good and a very unpopular John Voight is great.
|by Anonymous
|reply 232
If you have xfinity on demand, R231, why isn't subscribing to Showtime an option?
|by Anonymous
|reply 233
R233 Because subscribing to another premium channel would require shelling out more money? Not everyone can't afford to have it all.
|by Anonymous
|reply 234
IMO, Showtime is the only premium channel worth subscribing to this year.
|by Anonymous
|reply 235
Anybody watching?
On last Sunday's episode Katie Holmes told Ray her father (Ian McShane) had a love affair with her husband!
WTH? Was she serious?
|by Anonymous
|reply 236
Tell me more, r236.
|by Anonymous
|reply 237
I assumed she was serious, r236.
|by Anonymous
|reply 238
So, Ray was molested as well? He got really freaked out when that secret priest agent confronted him about the dead priest confiding to him about everything about him and Ray before the priest got murdered.
The show has one great quality. It makes you think one thing about where a plot is going and suprises you with some silly or not so silly twist later on.
|by Anonymous
|reply 239
We already knew Ray was molested. That came out last season.
What I want explained is their sister's death.
She committed suicide as a teen. All 3 boys have mentioned her but Ray has vehemently blamed their father for her suicide.
|by Anonymous
|reply 240
Holy Cow!
I just watched Sunday's episode.
Ian McShane was screwing his daughter's husband.
Excellent episode. Best of the season.
|by Anonymous
|reply 241
Season 4 premiers June 26th. Here's the trailer:
|by Anonymous
|reply 242
Schreiber directed the first episode of Season 4.
|by Anonymous
|reply 243
I watched the first episode of S4 last night on HULU. Ray has been sober for six months and Mickey is starting over in Nevada. By the end of the episode, they're both dragged into their old life. I know Jon Voight's politics are awful, but Mickey Donovan is a treat to watch, especially when he's on mushrooms! I think they will be getting into Ray's sister's death this year, judging by a couple of flashbacks/hallucinations in this episode.
|by Anonymous
|reply 244
I began watching "Ray Donovan" for the first time in a year (though I didn't watch the series due to the fact we can't afford premium channels during my time living in the Bay Area). Recently (2 months after I got AT&T U-Verse with premium channels for free for 3 months) I DVR a marathon of seasons 1 and 2 so I can watch it from the beginning. I watched it for the first 2 weeks and began watching Season 3 on demand afterwards, and now I just finished it today so I can watch the opening kickoff of Season 4 tonight.
The best parts of this series is mostly the full frontal female nudity, the blood and violence and the profanity (like other shows on premium channels do and get away with it, suck on that FCC).
Putting that aside, the show is good... with the exception of the torture fest Season 2.
|by Anonymous
|reply 245
I wish there were more Ray Donovan fans on DL.
|by Anonymous
|reply 246
I gave it a season recently, but it didn't take. Didn't hate it, but didn't like it enough to continue.
|by Anonymous
|reply 247
I'm a fan, R246!
|by Anonymous
|reply 248
The show is moving to New York for season six:
|by Anonymous
|reply 249
When does the new season start? Has it, already?
|by Anonymous
|reply 250
R250: it starts August 6th.
|by Anonymous
|reply 251


text: John Hamner, one of the oldest living settlers of Johnson County, is a native of Mercer County, Ky., and the third of a family of seven children, born to John and Mary (Neubary) Hamner. His parents were both born in Virginia. John and Mary Hamner moved to Kentucky a short time after their marriage, and from the latter state in 1823, came to Johnson County, Ind., and settled near the present site of Edinburg. Here they lived upon a farm until their deaths, which occurred at the advanced ages of eighty and seventy, respectively. John Hamner, Sr., was a soldier in the War of Independence, during which struggle he participated in a number of battles, among which was the last engagement in which the American Army under General Washington took place. The subject of this biography was born Feburary 5, 1810, and was thirteen years of age when his parents moved to Johnson County. He was reared a farmer, and for a period of sixty-five years has been a resident of this county, during which time he has occupied an honorable place in the community, and commanded the respect and confidence of all who knew him. His life-work has been that of a farmer, and at this time he owns 200 acres of valuable land, in the County of Edinburg, and lives upon the place where his father settled in 1823. Mr. Hamner has been twice married, the first time in 1832 to Miss Nancy Lash, daughter of Joseph and Mary Lash, by whom he had six children, only two of whom are living, to-wit: Samuel and Maria (Miss Durbin). Mrs. Hamner died June 20, 1849, and two years later Mr. Hamner was united in marriage to Mrs. Mitchell, who died on the 8th day of September, 1885. No children were born to his last marriage, but by a previous union with Mr. Mitchell, Mrs. Hamner had two children, one of whom is now living. Mr. Hamner is a representative democrat of the old school, having always been an earnest supporter of the principles of that party. He is now living a quiet and retired life, which only those who have battled successfully with the world for over three quarters of a century, know how to appreciate.

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As Congressional leaders and the incoming administration of U.S. President-elect Barack Obama mull economic stimulus legislation including a portion of which is expected to be devoted to telecommunications infrastructure to boost broadband Internet access, I offer these guiding principles:
1. The focus should be on the so-called "last mile" or local access network portion of the system. There's a broad consensus that the lack of adequate broadband access in the United States is due to technological shortcomings on this segment of the telecommunications infrastructure, its weakest link. The overall goal should be full build out of this currently incomplete but vital infrastructure to serve all residents and businesses.
2. The "copper wall" that comprises the last mile telecommunications infrastructure is the primary barrier to wider broadband Internet access. It has been obsolete for about a decade and will become increasingly so as demand for broadband access and more bandwidth intensive content like video grows. The copper wall should be torn down and replaced with fiber optic cable, either aerial or buried depending on local construction cost factors and neighborhood preferences. Calls by large telcos for funding for DSL over copper should be rejected. Funding for such projects would keep the U.S. lagging behind other developed nations on broadband telecommunications technology and constitute an economic bailout to build increasingly obsolete technology rather than a true stimulus.
3. The last mile is the most local element of the nation's telecommunications infrastructure. Accordingly, stimulus should favor local entities to replace copper with fiber such as locally owned private companies, local governments and fiber cooperatives, the latter aided by incentives to encourage homeowner-owned fiber over the last mile.
The 12 year period following the enactment of the 1996 Telecommunications Reform Act has shown providing tax breaks and other incentives to large publicly traded telcos has not resulted in adequate capital expenditure on infrastructure to serve the nation's future telecommunications needs or the selection of broadband technology best suited to do so.
As for private providers, Congress and the Obama administration should note that even generous subsidies to incumbent telcos to build out broadband infrastructure may prove indequate as seen from their less than enthusiastic response to a California Public Utilities Commission program that subsidizes broadband deployments in unserved and underserved areas with a surcharge on intrastate voice long distance calls.
The investment cycle of these companies is apparently too short to earn a return on broadband infrastructure investment even at the 40 percent funding level provided by the program -- and even for arguably obsolete DSL equipment proposed in the handful of projects approved by the CPUC in 2008. Accordingly, broadband infrastructure stimulus funding directed to community-based cooperatives, nonprofits and local governments would likely produce the most rapid deployments.


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At this point, it seems like Shonda Rhimes can do no wrong. The creator of ABC's "Scandal" recenly announced that she's teaming up with another black Hollywood heavyweight, Viola Davis, to star in a Philadelphia-based pilot called "How to Get Away With Murder."
With the success of racially diverse "Scandal," Rhimes gained a new platform to talk about Hollywood's lack of color and her mission to change it. "I think it's sad, and weird, and strange that it's still a thing," she told the New York Times last year aout the lack of diversity in the industry. "It's 2013. Somebody else needs to get their act together. And, oh, by the way, it works. Ratings-wise, it works."
Davis, meanwhile, earned an Academy Award nomination for her role in "The Help."
(h/t Philly)


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The UC Davis School of Law faculty placed 23rd in two highly influential national surveys of law school quality. King Hall was ranked 23rd in the peer assessment category of the 2014 edition of U.S. News & World Review's "Best Law Schools" and also rated 23rd in the most recent comprehensive faculty quality assessment undertaken by University of Chicago Law Professor Brian Leiter.
UC Davis has "improved significantly in the last generation" and is now "solidly top 25," wrote Leiter. His periodic assessment of law faculty productivity and influence, as measured by the number of faculty citations over a five-year period, is widely regarded as the single most systematic evaluation of American law school quality.
The King Hall faculty has an outstanding record of consistent publication in the nation's most-cited legal periodicals. Recent months have seen articles published or accepted for publication in the Yale Law Journal, California Law Review, Cornell Law Review, Duke Law Journal, Georgetown Law Journal, Vanderbilt Law Review, Notre Dame Law Review, Boston College Law Review, Boston University Law Review, Texas Law Review, UCLA Law Review, UC Davis Law Review, UC Irvine Law Review, Hastings Law Journal, Southern California Law Review, Northwestern University Law Review, Iowa Law Review, Arizona Law Review, University of Pennsylvania Law Review, American University Law Review, Minnesota Law Review, Emory Law Journal and North Carolina Law Review, among others.
"Although it is important not to place undue emphasis on rankings, it is always gratifying to receive the recognition of legal professionals and our colleagues in legal education," said Dean Kevin R. Johnson. "At UC Davis School of Law, we have made great strides in recent years, with the expansion and renovation of Martin Luther King, Jr. Hall, the recruitment and retention of superstar faculty, enrollment of excellent students, and the launch of new academic programs and international partnerships. We are a law school on the rise, and we look forward to even greater things in the years to come."


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London, United Kingdom, 2009/07/24 - Russell Bedford International appoints Mungarrieta & Asociados as the Valencia member in its newly-launched Venezuelan national network.
CPA firm Mungarrieta & Asociados has joined the Russell Bedford global accounting group, becoming a member of the newly-launched Russell Bedford Venezuela national network.
Mungarrieta & Asociados is a four-partner firm, with its head office in Valencia, a large industrial city 150km from the capital, Caracas. It was founded by Adolfo Mungarrieta in 1972 as a firm of independent public accountants. In 2000, Augusto Mungarrieta, son of the founder, joined the firm and helped to expand its range of services to include financial audit, tax and consulting. In 2008, Pedro Pacheco and Pedro Conde also joined as partners.
All the partners are members of the Colegio de Contadores Públicos del Estado Carabobo (College of Public Accountants of the State of Carabobo).
Adolfo Mungarrieta is a public accountant with some 46 years of professional experience. Before founding his firm, he was a manager in one of the countrys leading banks. His specialist areas are finance, accounting and management.
Augusto Mungarrieta has more than 17 years of professional experience including some eight years with a Big-4 firm as a senior auditor. He has a masters degree in tax management and is a specialist in tax and auditing.
Pedro Pacheco has a masters degree in accounting science and some 20 years professional experience, mainly as a senior financial controller in industry. He specialises in tax and auditing. Pedro manages the firms branch office in the city of Maracay.
Pedro Conde has specialist expertise in management, auditing and accounting. He has 12 years of professional experience, mainly in operational management roles in industry.
The partners are supported by around 20 permanent staff and additional personnel on short-term contracts as necessary.
The client base comprises government entities and private businesses in sectors such as construction, electrical maintenance, agriculture, fisheries and the food industry. The firm is registered with the Superintendencia de Cajas de Ahorro the national regulator of banks and savings institutions.
Mungarrieta & Asociados will be a joint member of Russell Bedford International alongside the long-standing Caracas member, Hurtado Esteban & Asociados. There are plans to develop the network in due course to cover other important business locations in Venezuela.
For more information, contact Pedro Conde on +58 241 8245912.
Established in 1983, Russell Bedford International is a global network of independent accountancy firms, business consultants and specialist legal advisers.
Ranked as one of the world's top 15 accounting networks, Russell Bedford is represented by some 460 partners, 5000 staff and 200 offices in more than 70 countries in Europe, the Americas, the Middle East, Africa and Asia-Pacific.
All Russell Bedford affiliates are well-established firms offering international business advice and services to local and multinational clients. Most provide a full range of services comprising accounting, auditing, tax advice, general business guidance and financial consulting. In addition, many have special expertise in particular fields, such as international taxation or information technology.
In January 2008 Russell Bedford International (russellbedford.com) has been named one of the first 17 full members of the IFAC Forum of Firms after reporting it has implemented a globally coordinated quality assurance programme, committed to the use of International Standards on Auditing (ISAs), and met other specific ethics requirements.
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Your aid will be revised and/or YOU MAY BE REQUIRED TO REPAY ALL OR A PORTION of the aid you received (read the information on the Return of Title IV Funds) if you withdraw from some or all of your courses, OR stop attending classes, OR enroll for less than half-time status. You must notify us immediately if these changes occur.
The "last date of attendance" is used to determine the point in time that the student stopped attending so that the percentage of the enrollment/payment period completed can be determined. The student's instructor(s) may be contacted and asked to provide our office of the student's last date of attendance. The last date of attendance may include date of the last quiz or exam taken, date of the last assignment submitted, or the date of the last actual attendance in the course. The percentage of Title IV aid earned is equal to the percentage of the enrollment/payment period the student completed.
Federal Direct Student Loan borrowers are required to complete an Exit Counseling when dropping below half time enrollment or withdrawing from the university. Visit www.studentloans.gov to complete Exit Counseling.
Students receiving any Federal Title IV aid that completely withdraws prior to completing at least 60% of the enrollment period must have a Return of Title IV processed to determine the amount of funds the student earned.
Federal Title IV funds are awarded to a student under the assumption that the student will attend school for the entire period for which the assistance is awarded. When a student withdraws, the student may no longer be eligible for the full amount of Title IV funds that the student was originally scheduled to receive.
This requirement applies to students who receive federal student aid including Federal Pell Grant, Federal Supplemental Educational Opportunity Grant, Subsidized or Unsubsidized Federal Stafford Loans, but not Federal Work-Study.
If the amount disbursed to the student is greater than the amount the student earned, unearned funds must be returned. If the amount disbursed to the student is less than the amount the student earned, and for which the student is otherwise eligible, he or she is eligible to receive a post-withdrawal disbursement of the earned aid that was not received.
The student may still owe funds to Arkansas State University - Beebe to cover unpaid institutional charges. ASUB may charge the student for any Title IV program that ASUB was required to return.
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A student may want to visit with the Financial Aid Office prior to withdrawing from school in order to determine how this may affect their future aid eligibility.


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At the basics of YouthBank is the fact that young people are the ones who will shape the future. Ironically, their present opportunities for doing this are not always… present. So, youth potential, their creativity and energy are only partial valued by society. Even where there are volunteer opportunities, young people seldom participate in the process of making decisions. YouthBank provides for young people a framework to work together and make decisions regarding their community. Every year, in Romania about 15 youngsters aged between 15 and 20 years from each town where the program is implemented, known as "the youngest bankers from Romania", create, promote and transparently administrate a special fund in order to finance projects implemented by high school students. The program is a mechanism for encouraging youth behavior regarding: philanthropy, civic initiative and responsibility.
The program was launch in 2006 in Cluj-Napoca, implemented by Association for Community Relations(ARC) through the program for developing Cluj Community Foundation. Later in 2008, once with the setup of Cluj Community Foundation (FCC) it became the core program of Foundation and began to be very popular and successful in Cluj-Napoca and beyond.
In 2009 the program was launched national and coordinated by ARC in five new towns throughout the country: Alba Iulia, Bucharest, Constanța, Odorheiu Secuiesc and Timișoara. Starting with the school year 2010-2011, YouthBank was implemented in Iași, and in 2011-2012 in Tîrgu-Mureș. At the beginning of school year 2012-2013, four new towns joined YouthBank Romania network: Baraolt, Oradea, Sfântu Gheorghe and Sibiu. In 2013-2014 three new organizations implemented YouthBank program in: Bacău, Făgăraș and Ploiești. And in 2014-2015 Reghin joined YouthBank Romania Network.
In June 2014 ARC founded Foundation for Youth Involvement (FYI). FYI took over the ARC responsibilties, becoming the organization that is coordinating and developing the program at a national level. The strategy of FYI is to implement in the near future other programs for youth.
In 2015-2016 YouthBank Romania Network grow with 3 new tows: Galați, Satu Mare and Târgoviște. Currently, YouthBank program is implemented in 10 communities.


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"Good Morning America" co-anchor Robin Roberts announced Wednesday that she has launched her own production company, Rock'n Robin Productions.
The independent production company will create a variety of original broadcast and digital content for ABC and other networks. The company currently has in production two reality TV pilots, a Thanksgiving-themed special for ABC, a digital series for espnW and a news-driven documentary.
Other projects will range from lifestyle reality series and live special events to documentaries and informational shows, according to a statement from Rock'N Robin.
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Roberts, 53, will serve as the company's president. She will remain in her post at "GMA" while continuing to oversee operations at her company, according to the statement.
Roberts said she was "very excited" to be involved in the business, development and creative sides of production.
"I'm blessed to be able to do even more of what I love to do and now reach an even broader audience with programming that will inspire, inform and entertain people," Roberts said. "I'm so grateful to my ABC and 'GMA' family for supporting the launch of the company."
The company's website, rocknrobin.tv, will showcase behind-the-scenes footage and photos from Rock'n Robin's various productions. It will also feature the blog, N'Courage, through which Roberts and her staff will highlight the stories of everyday people who have displayed courage despite the odds, plus the stories of those who encourage others to be their best.
"In the Game With Robin Roberts," now in its third season, will premiere on espnW on Thursday, Sept. 4, as Rock'n Robin's first production. The upcoming episode will feature an interview with Michael Sam, the first openly gay player to be drafted by an NFL team.
Veteran ABC News executive John R. Green is the executive vice president of programming and development of Rock'n Robin Productions and he will run the company's daily operations. Green will remain at ABC as executive producer of special programming, overseeing primetime specials with Roberts and other network anchors.


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Oswego Fire Protection District Named Waubonsee Distinguished Contributor
Waubonsee Community College has honored the Oswego Fire Protection District as their 2016 Distinguished Contributor.
Dr. Michelle Evans, Assistant Dean for Health Professions and Public Service, said the Oswego Fire Protection District has worked closely with the college in recent years to provide opportunities to maximize skill development opportunities and student networking opportunities.
Those efforts have included participation in advisory committees, allowing paramedics to participate as preceptors for the paramedic program, donating hay and pallets for live fire training, and donating use of equipment and parking. In addition, firefighters have participated in college events including the Fox Valley Fire Challenge, assisted in managing equipment and helped staff prepare training sites.
In 2014, the fire district donated a 1998 International Road Ranger ambulance. That vehicle provides students with opportunities to learn and practice valuable patient care skills while participating in practice scenarios. Evans said that the relationship between Waubonsee and the district demonstrates how a community employer can have an impact on programs at multiple levels.
"We have been very proud to collaborate with the Oswego Fire Protection District in building and sustaining our Fire Science Technology and Paramedic programs," Evans said. "The growth of these programs over the last two years would not have been as significant without their contributions."
Evans credits the leadership of Chief Mike Veseling and the Oswego Fire Protection District Board of Trustees for supporting the collaboration between his district and the college.
"We were more than eager to help foster this relationship and the direction which Waubonsee was moving," Veseling said "We were very excited to see the energy being placed into the Fire Science / EMS programs. The Oswego Fire Protection District believes that good academic, technical, and experiential education is critical to our mission, and vital to the safety of the general public as well as the safety of our own members."
Veseling said many of his colleagues are former Waubonsee students, and some district employees are currently pursuing degree work through the college.
"We believe that the current and future firefighters will need all the knowledge, experience and training they can get if they are to meet the challenges facing them today and in the years to come," he said. "Waubonsee using our facilities is the perfect fit in helping to deliver this type and level of training."


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Freshwater West, one of Wales' premier surfing beaches, has been inundated with Harry Potter fans.
The Shell House was constructed as one of the set's for the final Harry Potter film - Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows starring Daniel Radcliffe and based on the book by J. K. Rowling.
Actual filming took place between the 11th and 15th May 2010.
Freshwater West; a beautiful wind swept, exposed beach, it is arguably the most consistent surf spot in Wales. It picks up any swell going and holds waves up to around 6ft before becoming unmanageable. The Welsh National Surfing Championships are held at Freshwater West annually during the first bank holiday in May.
When it's big, most people surf elsewhere or hit the reef in the middle of the bay for high tide. The rip currents at this beach are it's biggest drawback - so do not go swimming here!!! On a calm, sunny day it can look very inviting but you can't see the rips beneath the surface.
Many a good day can be spoilt by unyielding rips dragging you off the peak in all directions so make sure you're a good paddler and keep an eye on where you're being taken.
Immediately after the filming of the Harry Potter scenes, another major film was shot at the same location. Robin Hood was filmed during the weeks 15th to 30th June. This was directed by Sir Ridley Scott and will star Russell Crowe.
Some reconstructions of the seaweed drying huts used in the film can be seen here...
Shell cottage, set amongst the sand dunes of Freshwater West was built as a home for one of the elves featured in the film.
The Shell House has now been removed from the beach, we can however, find you a cottage nearly as close to a beach if you wish!


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Randy Moss Waived: Will Any Team Claim Him?November 1, 2010
The latest breaking news in the world of the NFL is that the Minnesota Vikings have waived Randy Moss.
The Vikings traded a third round pick to the New England Patriots for Moss on October 6. Apparently, they grew fed up with the mercurial receiver in under a month. The amount of love he gave to New England in his press conference following the Vikings-Patriots game on Sunday must have grated Brad Childress.
This move will go down as a great blunder for the Vikings.
It will also go down as a low point in Randy Moss' career, which is difficult to say considering he spent two dreadful years in Oakland.
Moss has just 22 catches for 313 yards and two touchdowns this season while splitting eight games with New England and Minnesota.
The storylines involved with this story are numerous and a source for much drama. What does Brett Favre think of this? Why exactly did Brad Childress do this? But the most important question of all is where Randy Moss will play out the 2010 NFL Season?
As he has been placed on waivers, Moss and his contract can be picked up by any team in the NFL. The Buffalo Bills have first dibs because they own the worst record in the NFL. From there, Moss' claim passes down the list of teams from worst to first.
Interestingly enough, the New England Patriots have the last chance to claim Moss.
While it is fun to speculate on whether the Patriots would claim Moss if 31 other teams passed, it is unlikely that that many teams would sit around and let a receiver of Moss' caliber slip through their grasp.
Moss might not be the same dominate receiver he was in his prime, but he is still one of the greatest receivers in the history of the NFL. Undoubtedly, numerous teams would like to take a shot at snagging Moss. From bottom-dwellers to contenders, Moss would improve so many teams that it is unlikely for him to stay inactive for long.
If Moss does manage to pass waivers, the Vikings would be responsible for paying him and he would be an unrestricted free agent.
But a team that doesn't have a shot at the playoffs might be wary of claiming Moss. His past troubles playing for a non-contender in Oakland serves as enough of a red flag to keep teams like the Bills, Panthers, Browns, Lions, etc...away from Moss.
Other teams, such as the Bengals, could not possibly sustain a team with three receivers with egos like Moss, Chad Ochocinco and Terrell Owens. That scenario is overkill.
One team that immediately jumps to mind, that can satisfy Moss with a great quarterback, a chance at the playoffs and a low enough waiver claim to snatch Moss from other contenders, are the San Diego Chargers.
Imagine Philip Rivers throwing to Randy Moss? San Diego is still in the AFC West race following their victory of Tennessee. However, their 3-5 record means they can claim Moss before other playoff contenders.
Other teams that could potentially use Moss and claim him are the St. Louis Rams, Arizona Cardinals, Seattle Seahawks, Chicago Bears, Washington Redskins, Jacksonville Jaguars and the Miami Dolphins.
One more team that should be singled out here is the Oakland Raiders. Moss might not have enjoyed his time by the Bay in his first stint, but with the momentum of the Raiders he might be willing to try a return trip.
It's far too early to tell what will be the outcome of this shocking move. But Randy Moss, one of the most dangerous weapons of this generation, is once again available.
Many middling teams that are still in the playoff hunt could use his services and it seems highly likely that one of them will jump at thew chance to add Moss.


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PINAL COUNTY, Ariz. — What would you do if illegal immigrants crossing into Arizona from Mexico showed up on your property asking for help?
On Tuesday, a man in Pinal County who didn't want to use his name answered the call with open arms.
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HP OpenVMS Systems Documentation
HP OpenVMS System Management Utilities Reference Manual
The command in this example displays the current PPP characteristics assigned to port TTA1.
Chapter 19
This command installs FORTRAN V7.2-3 on your system from a product kit located in DISK1:[KITS].
subcommandSpecifies an operation you want PCSI to perform. If you do not supply a subcommand, the utility prompts you to select one from a list.
product-nameSpecifies the name of the product to which you want to apply the activity. Some subcommands do not require this parameter. You can use the asterisk (*) and the percent sign (%) wildcard characters for all or part of the product-name. You can specify a list of products separated by commas (,).
The product name is the same as the third component of the file name of the product kit. For example, the product name parameter that you would use to refer to a kit named DEC-AXPVMS-FORTRAN-V0702-3-1.PCSI is FORTRAN. A product name can include an underscore character (_) but never a hyphen (-). For example, VMS73_DRIVER is the name of a remedial kit for OpenVMS whose file name is DEC-AXPVMS-VMS73_DRIVER-V0300--4.PCSI.
The following table describes PRODUCT subcommands:
|Verifies the product database and makes minor repairs, if possible.
|Creates a product configuration file (PCF).
|Copies a software product kit or converts it to another format such as compressed format.
|Deletes one or more patch recovery data sets.
|Retrieves a specified file or files from a software product kit.
|Retrieves the product description file (PDF) from a software product kit.
|Retrieves the product text file (PTF) from a software product kit.
|Retrieves the release notes from a software product kit.
|Displays the name of product kits found in a specified directory.
|Installs one or more software products and updates the product database.
|Lists the files contained in a software product kit
|Creates a software product kit in either sequenti.al or reference format.
|Modifies the configuration of an installed product and updates the product database.
|Records information in the product database about one or more installed products that are not yet registered in the database.
|Records a change in volume label in the product database.
|Uninstalls one or more software products and updates the product database.
|Displays in chronological order the operations performed on software products.
|Displays information about objects created during software product installation.
|Displays information about installed products.
|Displays patch recovery data sets in chronological order.
|Displays version information about PCSI.
|Uninstalls one or more patches for which recovery data has been saved.
Verifies the structural integrity of the product database and, in some circumstances, performs minor repairs on the files in the database.
PRODUCT ANALYZE PDB [/qualifiers]
The product database refers to an interrelated set of files named *.PCSI$DATABASE. These files ordinarily reside in SYS$SYSTEM.
When you use this command, PCSI does the following:
- Reads *.PCSI$DATABASE files referenced by the root database file PCSI$ROOT.PCSI$DATABASE and checks all fields for correct syntax.
- Automatically performs minor repairs when a known corruption pattern can be identified and if a repair is feasible.
- Provides instructions for rebuilding the database if an unrecoverable corruption is found.
The PRODUCT ANALYZE PDB command always reads the PCSI$ROOT.PCSI$DATABASE file, even if you also select a subset of the database files for analysis.
/LOCATION=device-name:[directory-name]Specifies the location of the product database files to be analyzed. Include only a device and directory name. This qualifier is useful if you copy the product database to a temporary directory to perform verification and repair on the copy rather than on the original files.
If you do not use this qualifier, the default location of the product database files is SYS$SYSDEVICE:[VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]. If you omit the device name, PCSI uses your current default device. If you omit the directory name, PCSI uses your current default directory.
/PDB_TYPE=keywordSpecifies that a subset of the product database files is to be analyzed. By default, all database files referenced by the root database file PCSI$ROOT.PCSI$DATABASE are analyzed.
Keywords are as follows:
FILE_SYSTEM Selects the PCSI$FILE_SYSTEM.PCSI$DATABASE file for analysis. PROCESSOR Selects the PCSI$PROCESSOR.PCSI$DATABASE file for analysis. PRODUCT=(product-name[,...]) Selects the product specific database files for the named products for analysis. Wildcard characters are permitted in the product name. ROOT Selects the PCSI$ROOT.PCSI$DATABASE file for analysis.
/NOREMOTE (default)Selects the product database located on a privately mounted system disk. By default, PCSI searches the currently booted system disk for the product database.
When you use /REMOTE, the following logical names must be defined:
- PCSI$SYSDEVICE must specify the physical disk name of the target system disk. This disk must be mounted and allocated to the process executing the PRODUCT command.
- PCSI$SPECIFIC must point to a system root on PCSI$SYSDEVICE. It must be defined in the following form, where x is a valid system root:
$ PRODUCT ANALYZE PDB Analyzing product database files in DISK$V83SYS:[VMS$COMMON.][SYSEXE] ...scanned PCSI$ROOT.PCSI$DATABASE;1 ...scanned PCSI$FILE_SYSTEM.PCSI$DATABASE;1 ...scanned PCSI$PROCESSOR.PCSI$DATABASE;1 ...scanned DEC-AXPVMS-DECNET_OSI-V0703-2.PCSI$DATABASE;1 ... ...scanned DEC-AXPVMS-VMS-V0803-2.PCSI$DATABASE;1 Completed product database analysis with no errors detected
The command in this example verifies the active product database files in their usual location on the system disk in SYS$SYSTEM.
$ PRODUCT ANALYZE PDB /LOCATION=DKA300:[TEST] /PDB_TYPE=PRODUCT=TCPIP*) Analyzing product database files in DKA300:[TEST] ...scanned DEC-AXPVMS-TCPIP-V0504-15.PCSI$DATABASE;1 ...scanned DEC-AXPVMS-TCPIP_ECO-V0504-155.PCSI$DATABASE;1 ...scanned DEC-AXPVMS-TCPIP_ECO-V0504-154.PCSI$DATABASE;1 ...scanned DEC-AXPVMS-TCPIP_ECO-V0504-152.PCSI$DATABASE;1 Completed product database analysis with no errors detected
The command in this example analyzes the database files in the DKA300:[TEST] directory for the TCP/IP product and all the patch kits that have been applied to it. The root database file PCSI$ROOT.PCSI$DATABASE must also be in this directory.
Creates a product configuration file (PCF) for one or more products. Optionally uses the values in an existing PCF file to create the new PCF.
PRODUCT CONFIGURE product-name[,...] [/qualifiers]
product-nameNames the product, or list of products, for which product configuration files will be generated.
/BASE_SYSTEM=base-system-nameSelects software products whose base system matches the one specified. The base system name identifies both a hardware platform and an operating system. Standard names are:
Name Description AXPVMS Denotes an OpenVMS Alpha product. I64VMS Denotes an OpenVMS Integrity servers product. VAXVMS Denotes an OpenVMS VAX product. VMS Indicates a product that can be installed on more than one OpenVMS platform.
/CONFIGURATION=(keyword[,...])Specifies how the configuration choices are used. Keywords are:
CURRENT Uses values from the product database. These values are the configuration choices made when the product was installed or reconfigured. PRODUCER Uses values specified by the software manufacturer of the product. INPUT=pcf-name Uses values from the specified product configuration file. OUTPUT=pcf-name Writes configuration choices to the specified product configuration file. If no file name is supplied, creates a file named DEFAULT.PCSI$CONFIGURATION in the current default directory.
The keywords CURRENT, PRODUCER, and INPUT are mutually exclusive. (CURRENT is the default if none of these keywords is specified.)
The OUTPUT keyword can be used with the CURRENT, PRODUCER, or INPUT keyword.
If you specify only one keyword, you can omit the parentheses.
/NOHELP (default)Controls whether detailed explanations of product options and informational text are displayed. The first time you install a product, these explanations can help you decide which options to select. When you perform subsequent installations or upgrades, you might choose the brief explanations to save time.
When /NOHELP is selected, you can request a detailed explanation about a question by performing one of the following actions at the prompt:
- Press the Help key or PF2 key
- Type ? and press the Return key
/KIT_ATTRIBUTES=keyword([,...])Selects kits by kit type or kit format, or both. Keywords are:
Designates the format of the product kit as follows:
COMPRESSED Compressed format in which a data compression technique has been applied to a sequential kit. A compressed kit has a .PCSI$COMPRESSED file type. REFERENCE Reference format in which product files exist in a directory tree. A .PCSI$DESCRIPTION file in the top level of the directory tree denotes a reference kit. SEQUENTIAL Sequential format in which product files are placed in a container file. A file type of .PCSI indicates a sequential kit. TYPE=
Specifies the type of product kit as follows:
FULL Layered product (application) software. OPERATING_SYSTEM Operating system software. MANDATORY_UPDATE A required correction to currently installed software. Functionally, this type of kit is the same as a patch kit. PARTIAL An upgrade to currently installed software. Installation of this kit changes the version of the product. PATCH A correction to currently installed software. Installation of this kit does not change the version of the product. PLATFORM An integrated set of software products (also called a product suite).
/NOLOG (default)Displays the file specification of the configuration file that is created.
/NOOPTIONS (default)Specifies PRODUCT command options. The keywords are:
NOCONFIRM Omits the confirmation dialog that asks the user to verify the products that have been selected for the operation.
The NOCONFIRM and NODEFAULT_KIT keywords are mutually exclusive.
NODEFAULT_KIT Directs the utility to query the user instead of choosing a default kit when more than one kit that matches the selection criteria for the product is found in the source directory path. The selection criteria include the producer, base system, product name, and product version strings that are embedded in the file name of a kit.
If multiple kits are found for a selected product, and NODEFAULT_KIT is not specified, the utility determines the default kit to use by applying the following rules:
- The last character of the kit's file name (1-7) is used to order the kits by kit type. In descending order, the precedence is as follows: full, operating system, partial, patch, platform, transition, and mandatory update.
- The file type is used to order the kits by format. In descending order, the precedence is as follows: compressed (.PCSI$COMPRESSED), sequential (.PCSI), and reference (.PCSI$DESCRIPTION).
- If multiple kits are found with the same file name and file type, but differ in their directory path names, the case of their file specifications, or their file versions, then the first file found by RMS search rules takes precedence.
The NODEFAULT_KIT and NOCONFIRM keywords are mutually exclusive.
NOVALIDATE_KIT Disables validation of software product kits that are signed and have a manifest file in the source directory.
/PRODUCER=producer-nameSelects software products that the specified manufacturer produces.
/NOREMOTE (default)Selects the product database located on a privately mounted system disk. By default, PCSI searches the currently booted system disk for the product database.
When you use /REMOTE, the following logical names must be defined:
- PCSI$SYSDEVICE must specify the physical disk name of the target system disk. This disk must be mounted and allocated to the process executing the PRODUCT command.
- PCSI$SPECIFIC must point to a system root on PCSI$SYSDEVICE. It must be defined in the following form, where x is a valid system root:
/SOURCE=device-name:[directory-name]Specifies the disk and directory where the utility searches for the software product kit or kits. If /SOURCE is not specified, the utility searches in the location defined by the logical name PCSI$SOURCE. If PCSI$SOURCE is not defined, and the /SOURCE qualifier is not specified, PCSI searches the current default directory.
/SPAN_VERSIONS=keyword([,...])Selects software products whose versions match the specified version criteria. The keywords are:
ABOVE=version Selects versions greater than the version specified BELOW=version Selects versions less than the version specified MINIMUM=version Selects versions greater than or equal to the version specified MAXIMUM=version Selects versions less than or equal to the version specified
The ABOVE, BELOW, MINIMUM, and MAXIMUM keywords can be used alone or in combination. For example, /SPAN_VERSIONS= (MINIMUM=V2.1,BELOW=V3.0) selects versions greater than or equal to V2.1 and less than (but not including) V3.0. Using the MAXIMUM keyword instead of BELOW would select versions that include V3.0.
/VERSION=version-numberSelects software products that have the specified version.
The command in this example reads an existing PCF file named EDITOR_REV1.PCF for a product named EDITOR to obtain default values for its configuration options. Then a configuration dialog allows the user to change and review all options. Finally, the modified configuration values are saved in EDITOR_REV2.PCF.


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Tamaqua teachers had a chance to show off new ideas for their students during a recent program at the Restaurant at the Station.
The event, supported by the Tamaqua Blue Raider Foundation, is held to foster and highlight innovative programs in public education with the Tamaqua Area School District.
Some teachers chose to display their ideas or how past grant money was used.
Melissa Day, Virtual Campus Coordinator, told visitor State Sen. Dave Argall how remote devices can be used to quiz or questions students.
"The students would enter their answers onto small devices and the teacher would get their answers, thus providing immediately knowledge of what the students are learning," she explained.
Mrs. Jolene Barron, technology teacher, also talked about the advantages of using iPads in the classrooms. She said students can use it to research, record and script information.
Sponsors for the event included The Beyrent Agency, Physical Therapy Specialists and Penn State Hazleton.