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India intimidated by quality bowling - Pattinson
Australia have intimidated India's batsmen with the quality of their bowling, capitalising on the visitors' haste to get started with a relentless line and full length, James Pattinson has said. Pattinson, the fast bowler, maintained a compelling start to his Test career with 4 for 43, including four of the top five, on day one of the second Test in Sydney.
Each of Gautam Gambhir, Virender Sehwag, VVS Laxman and Sachin Tendulkar were defeated by full deliveries moving away from them, the first three edging into the cordon before Tendulkar dragged an attempted drive onto the stumps. Pattinson said he, Peter Siddle and Ben Hilfenhaus had hounded India into error with their discipline.
"I think they're probably intimidated about the way we're bowling, the areas we're bowling, we're not giving them any loose balls," Pattinson said. "For them they've probably got it in their mind 'where are we going to score', because they're not getting any loose balls at the moment. Intimidation comes with us bowling really well."
Laxman has been the chief example of Australia's intelligent and hostile bowling, having made only five runs in three innings. This from the man who has tormented Australian teams for more than a decade with a string of sparkling and match-turning displays. This success had been discussed in the team room, Pattinson said.
"He's had great success against Australia in the past and that's something we've looked at, but if you bowl good balls it doesn't matter how good they are," he said. "On your day you can get them out, and I think early on they're coming pretty hard at us, looks like they want to score.
"That's even better from a bowlers' point of view to have them trying to score early on, try to drive you through the covers to a ball that probably wasn't quite there today. So it is great for us to see them wanting to do that, and if we can keep doing the right thing we'll keep going with success.
"The bubble around our bowling attack is amazing for the fact we're playing against such high-class opposition. We're just up for the challenge even more. If you come out on the day and don't bowl so well they can put you right on the back foot, therefore the day travels away from you a little bit."
In contrast to the full deliveries aimed at the batsmen, India's tail-enders have been peppered around the head with short stuff. It is not a pretty method, but has so far been quite effective.
"If you bowl a good enough short ball I think most tail-enders are pretty suspect. To be honest I don't like the short ball at my head," Pattinson said. "But it's just a credit to our bowlers, we're bowling really well. If you pitch the ball up [or short], you've still got to bowl in the right areas, you've got to bowl nice and straight. It is something the bowlers have done really well over the last month or two months that we've been playing."
Reflecting on his remarkable first three Tests and one innings, Pattinson said he had surpassed all his own expectations, and gave credit for that to his grounding with Australia's bowling coach Craig McDermott over the preceding six months.
"I don't think anyone would have thought [I'd have such a good start]," he said. "You hope for it, but saying that, if you do all the right things, you bowl well, then you never know what might come your way. It has been a credit to Craig McDermott over the last six months that I've worked with him day in, day out, it is great I can work hard with him and see the results.
"My expectations were just to perform well. If I could go out there and take wickets, that's what I was trying to do, and try to get a regular spot in the Australian cricket team."
Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo
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rohan on January 6, 2012, 11:27 GMT
@sweetspot - good comment...exactly my question - perhaps Pattinson should really come to India and show he can do there what he thinks he can do here...
flat track bullies = fast track bullies
Roo on January 4, 2012, 8:54 GMT
@smudgeon... Well said... Though why so many blame Langer for batters brain-fades in the middle has me worried... He can't hold their hand - its their job to 'fill their boots'... He can only help with technique, he's not a psychologist...
Roo on January 4, 2012, 8:53 GMT
@RandyOZ... Your perpetual myths become boring... Arthur is the team coach - his boss (Team Performance) selects the coaches... Your un-Australian behaviour is a worry (are you a Pom?)... As far as Langer is concerned - perhaps it is the selection of the team that has been the problem in the past & not Langers fault... I guess you must be very unhappy with our current score in the first innings... lol... Try being happy with the positives rather than trolling...
Tanmay on January 4, 2012, 5:11 GMT
BCCI should have done something with the scheduling....if they had played test matches vs WI pace battery of Rampaul-Roach & Edwards on fast & green tracks of Nagpur,Hyderabad & Mohali....the results in the current series would have been different...!
Alex on January 4, 2012, 1:36 GMT
He will have many bad days. I am 100% sure of that.
syed on January 4, 2012, 0:58 GMT
Nothing wrong with Indian cricketers. They are facing the likes of fast bowlers that are not found in Indian subcontinent and playing on pitches that are foreign as well. To be competitive outside India, BCCI needs to focus on replicating the environment to help the cricketers succeed. I am sure BCCI now has the priorities reshuffled. It is just a matter of time since money is not an issue anymore. Kudos to Tendulkar for holding his own and, for all the myths about him being scared of fast bowlers, he has proved his mettle once again.
-Pak fan
Simon on January 3, 2012, 23:06 GMT
India have been hugely disappointing, again, so far :( If they're losing and failing to make big scores (they've only got over 400 only twice in their last 27 innings), they might as well be doing it with youngsters, I suppose, and then at least they'd be building for the future.
Earl on January 3, 2012, 23:03 GMT
Australia is a proud cricketing country.They will not stand for losing for too many years.They prepare to become better quickly.They lose badly to S.Africa,but come back to win.Lose to NZ and people think that India will have an easy time.Instead they are under serious pressure.Australia catches better than almost any other team.Had West Indies held on top some of their catches India would of been beatable.Sri Lanka fail to catch Kallis and the result is that he is still batting. What is it with this poking and fishing outside the off stump.What happened to stroke play? Too much leaving of balls then poking at others. See ball hit ball.
wayne on January 3, 2012, 23:03 GMT
Pattinson is doing better than we could have hoped. I like that he's confident too, and a bit of a mongrel (as all the good bowlers should be). Whether he's right about intimidating the Indian batsmen is irrelevant - he's doing his job with the ball, and he's doing it very well. If India can't find a way to negate his bowling, they're going to continue to struggle through the next 2½ tests. The thing that worries me though is Australia's lucky-dip performances with the bat. Still, I think they should persist with the new blood, who all have the talent and potential to score big on their day. Getting those days to become a regular occurrence should be Langer's priority. Kudos to Ponting though - we know his star has diminished, but he's been working his butt off and it's good to see him scoring runs again. I have a vague feeling he might even call it a day after this series (if it's a win for the Aussies), but we'll see...
simon on January 3, 2012, 22:57 GMT
@ SFay - would that be the #1 ranked side England that beat Australia by an innings 3 times last time they met or the England that just stuffed the world beating Indians 4-0? Either way J Pattinson wouldn't get a sniff of a game for them yet with the likes of Anderson, Bresnan, Broad, Finn, Onions, Tremlett etc etc
rohan on January 6, 2012, 11:27 GMT
@sweetspot - good comment...exactly my question - perhaps Pattinson should really come to India and show he can do there what he thinks he can do here...
flat track bullies = fast track bullies
Roo on January 4, 2012, 8:54 GMT
@smudgeon... Well said... Though why so many blame Langer for batters brain-fades in the middle has me worried... He can't hold their hand - its their job to 'fill their boots'... He can only help with technique, he's not a psychologist...
Roo on January 4, 2012, 8:53 GMT
@RandyOZ... Your perpetual myths become boring... Arthur is the team coach - his boss (Team Performance) selects the coaches... Your un-Australian behaviour is a worry (are you a Pom?)... As far as Langer is concerned - perhaps it is the selection of the team that has been the problem in the past & not Langers fault... I guess you must be very unhappy with our current score in the first innings... lol... Try being happy with the positives rather than trolling...
Tanmay on January 4, 2012, 5:11 GMT
BCCI should have done something with the scheduling....if they had played test matches vs WI pace battery of Rampaul-Roach & Edwards on fast & green tracks of Nagpur,Hyderabad & Mohali....the results in the current series would have been different...!
Alex on January 4, 2012, 1:36 GMT
He will have many bad days. I am 100% sure of that.
syed on January 4, 2012, 0:58 GMT
Nothing wrong with Indian cricketers. They are facing the likes of fast bowlers that are not found in Indian subcontinent and playing on pitches that are foreign as well. To be competitive outside India, BCCI needs to focus on replicating the environment to help the cricketers succeed. I am sure BCCI now has the priorities reshuffled. It is just a matter of time since money is not an issue anymore. Kudos to Tendulkar for holding his own and, for all the myths about him being scared of fast bowlers, he has proved his mettle once again.
-Pak fan
Simon on January 3, 2012, 23:06 GMT
India have been hugely disappointing, again, so far :( If they're losing and failing to make big scores (they've only got over 400 only twice in their last 27 innings), they might as well be doing it with youngsters, I suppose, and then at least they'd be building for the future.
Earl on January 3, 2012, 23:03 GMT
Australia is a proud cricketing country.They will not stand for losing for too many years.They prepare to become better quickly.They lose badly to S.Africa,but come back to win.Lose to NZ and people think that India will have an easy time.Instead they are under serious pressure.Australia catches better than almost any other team.Had West Indies held on top some of their catches India would of been beatable.Sri Lanka fail to catch Kallis and the result is that he is still batting. What is it with this poking and fishing outside the off stump.What happened to stroke play? Too much leaving of balls then poking at others. See ball hit ball.
wayne on January 3, 2012, 23:03 GMT
Pattinson is doing better than we could have hoped. I like that he's confident too, and a bit of a mongrel (as all the good bowlers should be). Whether he's right about intimidating the Indian batsmen is irrelevant - he's doing his job with the ball, and he's doing it very well. If India can't find a way to negate his bowling, they're going to continue to struggle through the next 2½ tests. The thing that worries me though is Australia's lucky-dip performances with the bat. Still, I think they should persist with the new blood, who all have the talent and potential to score big on their day. Getting those days to become a regular occurrence should be Langer's priority. Kudos to Ponting though - we know his star has diminished, but he's been working his butt off and it's good to see him scoring runs again. I have a vague feeling he might even call it a day after this series (if it's a win for the Aussies), but we'll see...
simon on January 3, 2012, 22:57 GMT
@ SFay - would that be the #1 ranked side England that beat Australia by an innings 3 times last time they met or the England that just stuffed the world beating Indians 4-0? Either way J Pattinson wouldn't get a sniff of a game for them yet with the likes of Anderson, Bresnan, Broad, Finn, Onions, Tremlett etc etc
Chris on January 3, 2012, 22:53 GMT
Pattinson has had a good start to his career and looks to be a good prospect. With the wealth of top young fast bowlers around the country, the future looks bright for Australian cricket.
However, Pattinson should pul his head in really. He's played in just four tests so far and all have been in conditions that have had something for the fast bowlers to work with. He hasn't had to toil away on any roads as yet.
Randolph on January 3, 2012, 22:44 GMT
Pattinson would intimidate any batsman world over, even the South African Pietersen. The ineffectiveness of India can only be matched by Arthur, who is an absolute plaugue on the side. He has failed to put pressure on Langer or even help with the batting. Langer and Arthur to be sacked ASAP. @AidanFX - agree with your Lyon comments.
Nishan on January 3, 2012, 22:40 GMT
@Vishal Tendulkar I think you being an indian yourself intimidating indian batsman lets not talk abt pattinson where he has BOWLED them :)
Saqib on January 3, 2012, 22:31 GMT
For sure 2 team not at the best which is a shame for test cricket. I would love a series when the scores are 1-1 after 2 test matches.
Ram on January 3, 2012, 22:27 GMT
I do agree that Indian batsmen are/were intimidated. There is not doubt. Mind you, this is coming from an Indian fan. The fact that Pattinson stated was proven beyond doubt. We are a lousy team when we travel. Let's just accept that fact. Nothing wrong in losing to a better opponent.
Mortimer on January 3, 2012, 22:26 GMT
Let's not forget that the Aussies will have to face ZAK in the morning. Wither the ZAK spells and it will be Aussies' game from there on.
@sankar8000: That's IF they get a flatter wicket @Yevghenny: They did that to the WI Vickram Singh: Way to go, as of now, they seem to be bounced out @sweetspot: agreed. Only WI of the past was able to dominate everywhere, including the sub-continent @TheMehssiah: They lost to WI in the Caribbean then arrange a quick return trip to whip an undercooked WI team in the cold winter.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 22:16 GMT
Whether or not Pattison has intimidated the Indian batsmen, it looks like he should take a ticket and wait in a queue. This indian batting lineup failed against England in England, in West Indies against West indies, and barr one innings, they generally failed against Sth Africa in Sth Africa. Yes they drew the latter 2 series, but the bottom line is the batsmen hardly have scored higher than 300 in the last few years. Even in India they managed to win only due to some rear guard action from the tail.
The aussies have bowled OK, nothing special. This indian lineup is just poor.
Damon on January 3, 2012, 21:40 GMT
Did someone really claim that an Aussie attack featuring Peter Siddle and Ben Hilfenhaus is the best in the world ? Shirley not !
Jay on January 3, 2012, 21:30 GMT
@NairUSA: Well I guess you possess a SCIENTIFIC approach to your analysis. Rotating you say ? You mean kicking out a young player and bringing in another youngster in his place ?! don't be ridiculous. It's time we got rid of the GODs in the middle order. I am sure some pension firm is eager to hand out their retirement plans. At 38/39.. Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman are really pushing their buttons hard. I appreciate what they brought to Indian cricket but it's time to move on. India will keep losing test matches here on BUT I am OK with the team losing fielding XI youngsters. Young blood brings flair, versatility, courage and athleticism. It's painful to see these OLDIES commit the same mistakes for over a decade. Gimme a break. Most of the commentators are calling on India to take some bold decisions with the future in mind. I second that. I don't need the 'legends' to continue. They are better off in some dusty book shelf to be remembered.
Mick on January 3, 2012, 21:25 GMT
What can you do but chuckle when people refer to the 'green top'? Have these people watched a single ball of this Test? I don't think there's a trace of green on the pitch. Anyway, if it was such a minefield - why did India elect to bat?
Steven on January 3, 2012, 21:24 GMT
Other way around mate, Pattinson's brother was never going to be good enough to get a game for Australia.
Kaze on January 3, 2012, 21:07 GMT
Hilarious how Indians are trying to bash Pattinson and talking about sub continent pitches. You should first look at the pending whitewash rather than try to bash a quick who has played less than 10 tests. No one knows how good he will be elsewhere, but he is bloody awesome now.
Dik on January 3, 2012, 21:03 GMT
@Harmony111, you are comparing their batting collapse with their bowling performance, which doesn't really make sense. These 3 Aus quicks are bowling superbly, shutting down a batting line up that is way older and experienced than these 3 guys put together. So give credit where it's due, instead of trying to discredit it by talking about their batting collapse.
India is intimidated by some good old fashioned spot bowling.
Mick on January 3, 2012, 20:58 GMT
Full-Blooded-Wallop: not so offended by you pointing out Australia's low scores. They're facts. But seriously, ending a post with 'lolzz'!! What are you, 13 years old?
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 20:47 GMT
Our bowling barring ashwin and zaheer ,dont use their head at all Umesh thinks bowling 140 plus is enough , even province teams in australia will belt him if he bowls like he has ,ishant has no consitency 1 ball good 15 no good,reg our batting we need to credit the aus bowlers ,gambhir /kholi/raina are kings on indian picthes,i personally would have like to see Shewag/sachin/dravid/manoij tiwary/rohit sharma/dhoni/ashwin/harbhajan/zaheer/umesh yadav/ishant in batting order as 1 st choice,umesh and ishant given clear instruction where to bowl every over ,in reserve opener rahane,keeper saha,laxman & badrinath as batsmen/rahul sharma & mithun as bolwers
Harmon on January 3, 2012, 20:25 GMT
@Meety :-
What? None of them came against India so does it not count? What kind of thinking is this?
Harmon on January 3, 2012, 20:21 GMT
A team that was 21/9 a few weeks back and was 27/4 and 37/3 against these bowlers is saying that India are intimidated by their bowling? Bowling bouncers to tail enders is the only intimidating thing I saw today. Agreed, Indian batsmen are definitely playing poorly and some of them must be dropped, Laxman to begin with but none of the dismissals were because of any intimidatory bowling. I would be more worried to see that Pattinson has faced more balls than Gambhir or Kohli or Laxman so far. This shows lack of application. Indian batsmen must do that. And when will Ishant grow up? He tries to get the ball to move in from a good length but when that doesn't happen, his balls sit up nicely to be driven or cut. I feel Ishant is going the path of Srinath, good enough to beta but not good enough to get the wicket.
Sanjiv on January 3, 2012, 20:15 GMT
Awesome performance by the Aus bowlers. This Aus team might lead to the creation of another special batch of cricketers from Australia, comparable to the 1980s' lot. I am an India supporter. Hope our team lifts its performance over the next few days, as I know they are capable of doing!
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 20:15 GMT
tendulkar,laxman,dravid should make way for the more talented more younger n more energetic players....
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 20:10 GMT
@Cpt.Meanster : What makes you decide that these are the REAL conditions for test cricket ? Test Cricket is not only about green tops favourable for pace and swing bowlers but also about dust bowls where the batsman have to atruggle against top class spin bowling. Just because Australia and Engalnd are the two nations where Test Cricket florished in its early days, one cant say that the conditions in those countries are the REAL conditions for test Cricket. Just the way that India has been struggling on green and bouncy tracks, the other countries like Aus,Eng and SA have also been struggling to win on spin friendly tracks in India. Why do you think that the Aussies were whitewashed in the previous Test Series in India despite having the legends !!! Why did the legends fail to score big and win the match for their country against the so called mediocre Indian bowling when their Indian counterparts thrashed their fiery pace bowlers to all parts of the ground ! Give it a thought mate!
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 20:07 GMT
Need to play more with bangladesh & zimbabewe, they won the worldcup and cannot play the quick ball.bring all the young cricketers they will do good.
disco on January 3, 2012, 20:06 GMT
@sweetspot, "All this sort of cricket is proving is that all teams are rather good at home." No, all it is proving is that as everybody knows the Indians are rather bad away from home".
disco on January 3, 2012, 20:04 GMT
Re the comments "Please select Lyon the Indian player will smash him", to carry off that plan there needs to be some Indian batsman left when he's brought on.
Jay on January 3, 2012, 20:02 GMT
@Cpt.Meanster - Excellent 'armchair' assessment. I do see a lot of folks in this board with your pseudo analysis capability.
Back to the real scenario - Indian batsmen must study and form strategies on opposition's bowling style especially when visiting. By now, most of the bowlers have analyzed the batting methods employed by Indian batsmen as they were in the business for quite some time. They know all about VVS, Sachin, Dravid and Sehwag. It might even be a good idea to rotate the team with some talented rookies who can bat well just to shake up the bowlers.
vijay on January 3, 2012, 19:54 GMT
another 4-0 on the cards for india!
Andy on January 3, 2012, 19:46 GMT
come on stalwarts show some desperation and score runs. Sehwag would be the only exception I would leave out of the top 11 all others need to perform to stay in the squad. Let it be Dravid or Sachin or VVS. If Sehwag repeats same error again and again then drop him out. Let there be 7 rookies taking on the field as batting lineup. I don't mind them get bowled out for 100 at least they would gain exposure. With the current trend rookies aren't get chances and no experience gained while the legends are hanging on to boots just to stay afloat. May be its high time some one call these legends as coach of some squads only then they will realize yeah its high time we walk over. If at all there is any positives so far in the series India hasn't been bowled out for scores less than 150. Amen !!!
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 19:43 GMT
I think its time to remove all the records which are created on indian pitches.. then everybody will know who is great
H. on January 3, 2012, 19:15 GMT
It is easy turn your back and become a critic,just like it was easy to jump on the bandwagon and become a worshiper of the "quartet" when they were plundering the Aussies in 2003 and 2008.
1)India's test performance has dipped since England 2011,but gone are the days of extended test domination by one team (Shut up POMS)..and all teams will go through these phases (just look at sports sections of Australian newspapers from 2008 - till...beginning of last week)
3)One would have imagined that after their fall from grace (Ashes drubbings, humiliating defeats in India, under 50 scores in S.A..and yes the world cup knock out) the Oz fans/media would learn some humility...but if wishes were horses..
4)Yes it is probably time for the foursome to exit soon..but they will decide when..not some oz journo..age catches up with reflexes..it will do the same to punter and huss, imagine the oz batting without them..not even the mighty Pattison will be able to defend scores of under 50.
Sikandar on January 3, 2012, 18:56 GMT
Thanks PATTINSON for giving us the reality check! who cares if he has played only few tests but he assessed better than anyone about the quality of our batting, that includes indian fans, BCCI and other worshippers - if our indian fake 3 has any resepct for themselves and india's future, then they should RETIRE! I have always said Laxman has to go [before this series started], Gambhir should be dropped so that new ones sitting on the bench should be tried, also Sehwag is nothing but a HIT or MISS guy! persistence with KOHLI is a joke guess what DHONI will never drop any one of these gusy because he has NO GUTS. Our batting - what a JOKE! I PITY these Indian fans who bought tickets to watch this game, forget about people like us who were thinking that Indians learnt from the first and show their determination - nah! again, who thought that India deserved test #! nation - I need a COUNT - who thinks we deserved #1 versus who DON't -:)
Bharath on January 3, 2012, 18:53 GMT
Lets not talk about sub continent pitches,the guys took some quality wickets.And where ever i go i see only onething drop the trio(sachin,rahul,lax),So who can replace them? can it be rohit sharma for sachin ? pujara for dravid? raina for laxman? Rohit sharma no doubt a very good bat but let him get a chance and let us see how he plays in grassy tracks Pujara no doubt a potential but can he replace dravid it remains a million dollar question Raina this guy is happy playing the IPL,its obvious you come for 5r6 overs thrash them and score some quick 30's and 40's and get a bag full of money and some good endorsements,why toil in sun or cool weather.
So its very easy to drop the trio but who will carry the torch!!!
Paul on January 3, 2012, 18:32 GMT
Totally agree here with commentor Paul Dawson. Pattinson is an excellent bowler but not too good at public commenting. On the other hand, Indian batting lineup is falling apart. Time to bring young blood in. Like another commentor said, I'd rather loose with young blood than old horses. It is the pitches in sub-continent that are to be blamed for this mockery of a contest. It will be 4-0 or 3-0 for sure; advantage Australia.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 18:31 GMT
another arrogant oz....nothing new...how old are u mate?? sachin's cricketing career??? if its all about impeccable "line & length" why not do the same in India?For all the people who think only bouncy green tops are REAL test conditions what bull.... a turning chennai track is as REAL as these ones....I am sick of the "subcontinent" bashing all teams are kings in their own backyard...we have to admit...INDIA WILL BOUNCE BACK... #bleedblue
Zia on January 3, 2012, 18:24 GMT
@Vikram Singh. That badly wounded tiger is also an old weakened tiger with a lack of will to get up and fight. Time to move on to a fresh young tiger or the old tired tiger may keep on getting pounded. The 5 match losing streak should be an eye opener if one were needed after the England tour.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 18:21 GMT
Close to 45000 runs b/w first 5 Indian batsman and talk of intimidation...This is the difference between good players and great players....Even Kumble who has taken 600+ wickets did not give out a statement like this in his entire career....India will bounce back...wait and watch
Srinivas on January 3, 2012, 18:17 GMT
For those people who moronically keep harping about Dravid's strike-rate, they don't have a clue. It is during these difficult passages of play that Dravid takes most of the strike, exposing himself to the brutal spells, keeps the bowlers at bay and his team mates safe. Being the technically most accomplished it is only right to assume that he will have a better chance of survival. What if he takes a single of every ball, rotates strike and exposes his team mates? There's a method to his 'madness'. There's a role that is defined and set in stone for nearly 15 years. Shameful lack of knowledge on the part of rabid Dravid bashers. See, what happened when he gets out during a difficult passage of play! NONE, I repeat NONE, have the spine to stand up and take India to a respectability. Take a bow to Ganguly for giving an insight about Sachin's inability to manouver difficult passages of play. Not for no reason Dravid is called The Wall. If The Wall's broken, paper god's exposed. Period!
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 18:09 GMT
We went to England with over confident, and wasted it and now we have lack of confidence! thats.. its nothing about technique, talent and patience.. 90% of the indian batsmen have talent to tackle pattanson and bla bla.. its just lack of confidence.. they need it right now very very badly!
Ehsan on January 3, 2012, 17:49 GMT
Pattinson bowled really well and tight. His line and length was suburb with great bounce. Its hard for Indian batsmen to counter such a great bowling brigade. The story took start again where it was stopped last english summer for India.
Alexander on January 3, 2012, 17:49 GMT
Stop whinging about the pitches. What do you expect - flat wickets that are a spinner's paradise? This is what Test cricket is all about. India knows what to expect from the pitches in Australia and when Australia tour India they know what to expect from Indian pitches. It is home ground advantage. Always has been and always will be. This test series is far from over. Australia still has a relatively young side and is vulnerable to pressure from a disciplined opposition. I look forward to the next 4 days.
John on January 3, 2012, 17:46 GMT
I don't think India were intimidated, they have far too much experience for that. I just think they aren't as good as they were. As players get older, their ability to put together a succession of big innings declines, mainly because they take longer to get a good sight of the ball. They also tend to play shots that used to come easily, but don't any more. As a result, although they are still capable of playing well on occasion, the big innings are fewer and they have more bad trots. Look at all the older players (India's big three, Ponting, Hussey, Kallis (out for a pair in the last Sri Lanka test) and you'll see the same pattern. At some point either they get fed up and retire or they are dropped. I think this might be Dravid's last series. He doesn't look comfortable at all and he won't be enjoying playing like this. BTW, I see we now have the same excuses (can't do it on the subcontinent, etc.) that we saw in England from those who said India would win this series 4-0.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 17:39 GMT
Guys, look at the scoreboard. The Best Batting line up is a battling line up against this inexperienced bowling attack and finding it difficult to score 300. Mind you all of them have played in Austrailia before barring Virat. The problem is of fast swinging/seaming movement at better lengths as England team did to us. Just looking at the way the guys batted today, i do not care what it is called intimated or whatever. Sehwag kept waving his bat, till he edged, got dropped, tried again, nicked and got out. He cannot be patient. Everybody that's his game. Gambhir forgets that there are slips. Rahul Dravid needs to muster his England tour approach to get runs, with few loose balls on offer. Tendulkar seems overeager to stroke his way. Fine he has got the runs to show. VVS is having the same problems as in England (slips rub your hands in anticipation). Tailenders are being dealt with the same way as they were dealt within England. s
Fair on January 3, 2012, 17:33 GMT
Its time Indian batsmen show good technique, application and patience to make the series more interesting.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 17:12 GMT
everyones busy complaining that he can do well only in aussy pitches and not in sub continent. but he has bowled and succeeded against worlds best batting line up. sachin, laxman, dravid wont tell that they can only bat in sub continents, they are full of talent and experience. its the quality bowling of aussies, give them some credit, appreciate talent and enjoy the game...
Dhilip on January 3, 2012, 17:07 GMT
I feel confidence seems to be very low for indian team after England series.It is just a matter of time to come back.But We should put atleast 300 in the board. I hope we will put good fight in the secong innings
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 17:05 GMT
He seems to be a class bowler, but when it comes to public comments, class is conspicuous by its absence. Just let your bowling do the talking, young man. It is far more persuasive than your mouth.
Edwin on January 3, 2012, 16:46 GMT
Where is India's famous Foursome or Fivesome? A true bastmas has to adopt to any condition, that is how you prove your mettle. Dravid can put his hand up as he was the Wall in England, still the scoreline was 4 to nothing Now , who? Time VVS moved on and so did Dravid! let team India build on, may the great tendulkar can phase out his carrier, as he is worshipped in India and in my opinion that is the Curse of Indian Cricket. No personal enemity here, I am just stating my opinion. Australia is building a team and the performance is mind blowing, their commitment is 110%. Bowlers are doing their job , but as usual not finishing it off. That is the missing Block here. Tough luck mate as they say down under. Australia missing Johnson and Cummins, thanks for that. God knows what would have happened?????
anita on January 3, 2012, 16:36 GMT
Pattinson...U are absolutley correct . Gr8 u exposed the flukness of Indian batsman... with Dravid being exception for fluke ..................
Raj on January 3, 2012, 16:28 GMT
One side this kid 18-yr, no-experience Pattinson is excelling against a famed batting lineup on the other an experienced 23-yr Idiot Ishant is hell bent on bringing Aussie lineup into form. He cannot even bowl a steady line onto the stumps, not even to a new batsman. Every second bowl can be hit by a club cricketer. Just feel like slapping that guy to get him out of his sleep. With all these years behind him he needs Zaheer to tell him what to bowl and then still screw up. Absolutely spineless personality, forget bowling.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 16:27 GMT
@bigwonder: I completely agree wid u.. He will be thrashed out of park in sub-cont.. similar to wat hapnd for SA and ENG quicks in India.. I still bet Aus can play wid these quicks ly in home ground.. not in sub-cont pitches... and Shane watson is an exception from that..
Jay on January 3, 2012, 16:27 GMT
Well James... it's not only them being intimidated BUT they are also SCARED to play quality fast bowling. The GODS are afraid of mere mortals such as yourself. Am I seeing an incarnation of Perseus from the Greek mythology who defied Zeus and the other Gods ? The Indian fans and their egos will never admit the short comings of their team. As a former Indian supporter... I feel sorry for these people. The Indian people sadly worship these cricketers blindly. The Indians won't accept they are like MINNOWS in REAL conditions for test cricket. Except Tendulkar and Dhoni... the rest looked like clowns in a juggling act. It's time the Indian selectors sharpen their axes for a few heads. The seniors Tendulkar, Laxman and Dravid MUST be pushed out of the team along with Gambhir. Too many EXCUSES given here with no viable solution. I don't think Gambhir can determine the fate of an entire batting line up.. especially when it's as OLD and experienced as India's. I rather lose with young blood.
Ashok on January 3, 2012, 16:24 GMT
Its only we Indians who dont back-up their team when the going gets tough. Firstly its a game and I dont think we should make it personal against anyone. Secondly if some of the players are out there playing for India or making money in IPL it is because they are good or were good at some point. Most of the comments on people asking to ban IPL and T20's are by some sore losers who are jealous that they could not make a career in cricket or earn the same money that our cricketers earn. England beat us in england but they got beat in India. The conditions were batting friendly even their batters could have scored but why did they not . its because batting in different conditions require different skills. Our guys may nor play the moving and bouncing ball well. Aussie, English and SA batsman dont play the spinning ball well.. its even stevens.not sure why this hungama abt we being bad tourists. the case is the same for other teams that travel to India. We are undefeated at home. Be proud.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 16:10 GMT
Gambhir was never a class batsman. He was through a good form for some years. Form is temporary, only class permanent.
Pradeep on January 3, 2012, 16:02 GMT
Currently every team is a bad touring side except for probably South Africa to some extent. Tell us something new. Also, when was the last time Australia and the other teams won a test series in India? So, I am waiting for you to tell us something new James.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 15:58 GMT
Its the truth Pattinson said. Intimidation ...its just purely superb bowling and yes...they are mostly unplayable. I wish indian bowlers could produce same discipline from both end....we could test the real batting strength...also unfortunately enough Dhoni need to sharpen his captaining ability and take more responsibility. Needs a killers instinct.
Subash on January 3, 2012, 15:52 GMT
Not taking anything from Pattinson as he is truly a good find for Australia, now-a-days any fast bowlers looks extremely good against India. We will have to see how he performs against England, SA, PAK before we call him a great find. No excuses for this pathetic display by the Indian batting department but Indias aging batsmen have lost their reflexes and it is time for them to retire and give chance to youngsters. Second I fail to understand the impatience shown by many, including experienced batsmen to score quick runs. Aussie bowlers are clever and disciplined enough to exploit these short comings and the lack of confidence this Indian team has after the shallacking they recieved at the hands of England. I agree with Pattinson when he says the Indian team is intimidated. Look our team is spiralling down and we all know this day will come to the delight of many others, but it is true. Start from Scratch or else we may lose our test status.
Ashok on January 3, 2012, 15:48 GMT
@DrGuru: I applaud you for your comment Sir!. Hillfenhouse was almost scared of bowling Dhoni any where but wide outside the off. Ashwin @#8 hooked his bouncers twice and Dhoni also did the same.Bowling bouncers at ZAK & Ishant was cowardly act which no fast bowler should do to his counterpart. I wonder whether he will get the same reception from ZAK & Ishant.
Ashok on January 3, 2012, 15:41 GMT
Only Indian batsmen that were intimidated - the tail enders ZAK & Ishant with bouncers at their bodies by Hillfenhouse. Ashwin & Dhoni punished bouncers. In fact Hillfenhouse was the guy who was intimidated by Dhoni and kept firing almost 70% of his balls wide outside the off. Dhoni punished all the bowlers and if only Ashwin stayed with him at one end, Dhoni would have scored his century. Hillfenhouse never tried intimidating Dhoni with the stuff he bowled at ZAK & Ishant because he knew it will go for Sixers!. Only sad part about the Indian batting was no one stayed there long enough or in a long partnership. Dhoni, surprisingly played an excellent & responsible innings - leaving all balls outside the off stump except those he could hit. Indian batting needs Dhoni like innings.The biggest blunder India made is the inclusion of Gambhir@#1 spot - like starting one short with a sacrificial lamb. Better to open with Dravid or even Dhoni. I think Sehwag & Dhoni will be excellent openers.
Ramesh on January 3, 2012, 15:32 GMT
How many times should the "quality" of our batsmen be exposed by quality bowling? They were stripped naked in England and now in Australia, that too, by newbies. At the end of the series, Gambhir should be sent back to 1st class to regain his confidence and VVS should be dropped. He has become nervous and fidgety with his bat. Look at the 10 innings in England and how he got out in each. India's strength lies in batting.. batting.. and batting.. and if the batters don't do their job, this series is destined to be 0-4.
Aditya on January 3, 2012, 15:27 GMT
As an Indian fan, in all honesty - this is pretty depressing. Because as cocky as Pattinson may sound - there is a certain amount of truth in it. I have always had a high regard for our batting line up and seeing it fail like this definitely hurts. But hope is a great thing and with the names involved in our line-up we can always expect them to hit back. The weakness of out batting line up is unfortunately more clear. If we are to be a top team like we expect India to be - this weakness needs to be dealt with harshly.
Aidan on January 3, 2012, 15:26 GMT
Watching the press conference - convinced Pattinson is not nearly as cocky as various online articles make him sound
Abhishek on January 3, 2012, 15:26 GMT
What's surprising is how well he actually is bowling. Obviously the over-the-hill superstars of Indian batting weren't ready for these greenhorns bowling so well. And of course, it's looking like for the 2nd overseas tour in a row, Indian team will have the rug pulled beneath their feet!
Aidan on January 3, 2012, 15:23 GMT
Aah I have just watched the press conference - my my - media sources are very crafty - Firstly; It seems to me James did not come out and say they were "intimidated" - a journalist asked the question first; James responded and expressed doubt about "intimidation" - and then clarified the way he thought they might be intimidated. People watch the press conferences before you judge.
Shanmugam on January 3, 2012, 15:22 GMT
I am not sure why people think this game as a contest is over. It is most definitely not. Remember, the pitch is getting better for batting. It is hard to see Laxman collect more than 3 failures in a row against his favorite opposition and Gambhir fail again. Also, don't forget that the Aussies only have 3 bowlers - Lyon isn't any better than Hussey as a bowler against India. If India can weather the new ball assault and come out with just a wicket or two down in the first 30 overs, then it will be curtains for Australia. Now comes the best part - the Aussies have the worst top 3 among all top cricket nations atm and Zaheer will be licking his lips in anticipation. The Aussies have to bat last and they only have 3 batsmen who should score the bulk of whatever target India sets them. So, the 1st innings is absolutely crucial. I can see the Aussies getting a lead of 50, nothing more and the Indians setting them a target of 350 - Australia to lose by around 200 runs.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 15:02 GMT
Hey man - patty. To Early for you to comment like This. The Famous Batting line up will have to take this seriously and do some brain storming to counter this intimidating bowling. upset their rythem by standing few feet outside the crease. counter attack like Dhoni today. pl find some way . I don't think second innings its a different story.
Srinivas on January 3, 2012, 15:01 GMT
Can't say about all the batsmen but Dravid sure seems to be intimidated by those bowleds and the hit in the stomach at MCG - footworke gone for a complete toss. Sachin is just continuing his horrible from from 2011 into 2012 - looking pretty and assured for a 30 or a 40 - with no further meaningful push during difficult passages of play. Gotta give it to the awesome bowling of the Aussies. They made sure that horribly out of form batsmen like Sachin, VVS and Gambhir don't get back to form and succeeded in intimidating tremendously in-form batsman like Dravid and brought about his downfall as well. That's double trouble for Indians. This is as great a display, of 'relentless attack like a pack' mentality, as it can get. I'm deeply saddened by the horrible batting of Dravid, Sachin, VVS, Gambhir and Kohli.....can't help but take a bow to the Aussie bowlers.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 15:00 GMT
I think Pattinson's comments have been shown out of the context of the whole conversation. But in any case, he is right. He HAS done really well in his first tests and India is NOT looking all that confident (even if Australia isn't either). Just because he's young and new(ish) to the game doesn't mean he doesn't know what he's talking about!!
Khawaja on January 3, 2012, 15:00 GMT
i think that pattinson has bowled well for the third or fourth test in a row and that is credible...he has also pulled up the other fast bowlers and hilfenhaus is bowling consistently and better than he used to...siddle too is becoming consistent...the indians should call up their reserves of pujara and badrinath and players who are more consistent at home...while the indian oldies are highly regarded it is usually teh younger batsmen with an emerging brilliance who can do well as they donot have a load of history on their shoulders...i donot know why they did not try rahane in this test...indian selection is usually based on one dayers apart from the oldies...that is usually what happens when new blood is not continually introduced...
Aidan on January 3, 2012, 15:00 GMT
It's funny - we get sick of a player giving the robotic same stuff in press conferences (and to be sure Pattinson said some of that) - but when a player speaks honestly we jump down his throat for cockiness. There is a valid point he is new to the game - and the series has a long way to go. By gosh is he bowling well though - upright seam time and time again. Nice action, good control - when his lines and lengths stray he seems to readjust quickly which for mine is most impressive. BTW think it would be fair to say Sehwag has also given some cocky pres-conferences. Khan/ Ashin wasn't shy is saying the Aus team is weak against swing - how is that any different in substance to what Pattinson has said?
Harry on January 3, 2012, 14:55 GMT
@ serious-am-i , Yeah right, Pattinson is an overnight sensation, he might disappear from sight, and then we can all observe flying pigs! There is still a well of talent just waiting to get onboard. Be thankful Cummins is out and Harris wasn't selected.
Yasir on January 3, 2012, 14:53 GMT
His words reminded me of the time when Irfan Pathan played the series against Pakistan in Pakistan... He was being hailed as the next best thing by the Indians... Whereas he did bowl brilliantly well in that particular series,look where he ended up!! And i dont even remember him boasting his skills like that,this kid is a step ahead! He is bowling superbly,no doubt,but he should stay humble! Thats one of the qualities that makes stars,legends!
Aidan on January 3, 2012, 14:50 GMT
DrGuru whay are you going on about - it is a game of cricket - you try to bowl the opposition out. Tell me how India have been ethically superior. Khan is quite the protagonist a much as any player out there; meh he is competitor; so what?
ankur on January 3, 2012, 14:46 GMT
Hahaha.....the kid has found something to say.............These guys have scored more runs away from home then anybody in history.....so for me its prolonged bad form and bad luck....
Valavan on January 3, 2012, 14:43 GMT
Comon Indian fans, where did you all go when ravichandran ashwin boasting himself in cricinfo, well well, you were known as the best batting line up since 2007, why cant you show pattinson line and length now, why you speak about they will begin as if though the future is predictable, take all your statistical help, check when and where did India win out of India to a more competitive opponent in the last 4 years. India itself a home lion and indian fans can crow loud and loud, but you are yet to prove you can win away from home consistently. Till then Aussies play at home now, same way India can only win at home. Dont write off toomuch here, we have seen sehwag colours when he came to England to bag the elite pair who was supposed to bully English pacemen. Watch the highlights you will know.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 14:42 GMT
I am a die hard fan of India but i can honestly say that India are completely outplayed and it looks like that want the match to get over in 3 days so that they can do shopping for 2 days.The root cause of all this debacle starts right from the domestic tournaments in india where only flat tracks are prepared.Unless we prepare sporting wickets in india,they will never win a test series in Australia.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 14:36 GMT
way to go Australia! you're showing the whole world that India are only champions at home!
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 14:32 GMT
Lord_Dravid - How dare is the Indian team to call itself the best batting line-up despite the humiliating defeats in England (losses can't be more humiliating - two innings defeats and two losses by huge margins)! Pattinson is being modest here, telling how a good batting line-up can cave in, if the opposition bowls line and length. He had a remarkable time till now and he is certainly not arrogant like Indian players like Ashwin (who told in an interview that the England side is just ordinary and not better than the Indian side, during the one-day series following the 4-0 defeat) nor like Dhoni, who issued a blunt warning to Australia only to manage 191 runs the following day. Pattinson is a good bowler, a decent batsman and would likely taunt India for many years to come.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 14:31 GMT
As a diehard Indian fan, really embarrassed to hear a rookie saying such thing. Just into his second series and he says such things. Well hope our batsmen read this and reply aptly with the bat. Will that happen?
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 14:27 GMT
with james pattinsonm and patt cummins australia has a potential to lead the test cricket for a long period of time all they need is 2,3 reliable batsman to replace ponting and hussey. As far as india is concerned its pleasantly surprising that they have a pace attack to claim 20 wickets even on non supporting(non spinning) tracks but their strength is becoming the weakness. Laxman, dravid and tendulkar how much time do they have an year or two? india need to find the replacements soon though sharma, kohli and raina are ready but it can take time to emerge as a powerhouse of cricket. whereas england, this unit have 3,4 years of collective cricket and am sure they ll get better. So todays cricket is much interesting as India, SA, Australia and england almost in the same league and Pakistan knocking on the door of elites. While from 1999 to 2007 cricket was ruled by aussies it was boring to c teams fighting for 2nd spot only.
Raj on January 3, 2012, 14:23 GMT
We Indians no need panic now. If anyone true cricket lovers, enjoy the cricket. Just ignore what happen gainst WI in Indian home pitches. Other than this, 3 series in WI, Eng and now in Aus, can anyone tell me who is doing better in any 3 places so far other than dravid. Why the hell Laxman is been given chances again and again and why not for Pujara. How come Kohli is getting repeated chances after failure. It is sure, Kohli is competing runs with Aswin in test. Gambhir is proving he is not smart like olden days, looks at past 32 innings, he should be dropped. But other side, when Mukund/Rahane is not scored in one test or one innings, people make big issue and drop them from team. There is partiality between new & old players. It is not partiality of south & north any more.
James Broad on January 3, 2012, 14:23 GMT
Australia fast bowlers firing their best deliveries. Indian batsmen have no talent to face such accurate bowlers. They never had such a fantastic opposition (All bowlers looks like McGrath). Indian batsman need to bend their back to show atleast good performances. Atleast has to learn from Ponting and Hussey. They are always match winners and play every ball heartfully.
Chetan V on January 3, 2012, 14:23 GMT
Dear Mr Pattinson, we will see , when you come to India...!!we will c who gets intimidated!!!
Kavin on January 3, 2012, 14:19 GMT
Those who are bashing Kohli are clueless people who knows nothing about cricket. This bloke has only played 5-6 test matches, it takes time to develop fine cricketers for long period guys! They don't just come in the team and starts scoring tones of tuns. Look at shaun march and David warner, they are also getting out cheaply by our rookie fast bowlers at their backyard, but aussie management isnt talking about dropping them. Ian bell, Hashim Amla,. AB Develiers they all came in the scene just like Kohli is going through this period. He is a star in the making and he needs time to learn and develop his skills. For Christ sake he is just a 23 years old kiddie. Look at these 40 years old daddies struggling to score runs and you expect kohli to score triple hundred on 2nd test match he is playing in Australia? Grow up people and think about future. It is time for Oldies to gracefully retire and let the team go through the re-development process.
Anil on January 3, 2012, 14:18 GMT
Lord_Dravid, how dare you say Indians are not intimidated? Do their scoreline and dismissals say otherwise? And the pitch is helping bowlers more than the batters, huh? How about the Punter-Pups partnership? How about Ishant-Yadav spanking today? Does the pitch hate the duo more than it loves Zak? Indians are true jackals now--not even a fox at home; forget calling them tigers or something anywhere. They need massive overhaul. Dravid lets opposition score more than he does, the rest do not score at all while the big man is down to his regular 30s-40s. It was odd to see a fifty from the captain, but they should have been all-out for around 130. You (and all those who speak alike) should know that truth bites hard and bitter; simple. This is another England series. GG, RSD, VVSL should be immediately out, bring in those 19-20 years old and ask them to hang around for a few years. Let VS have his way and let SRT hover for a couple years. A team will emerge.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 14:09 GMT
Hey Freo 75 Pattisson missed out on playing for England what planet are you on oh that's right most likely from where the rest of the Dorkers hang out underneath the empty trophy cabinet if you must make a comment mate at least talk facts don't make it up bit like the Dockers GO EAGLES
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 14:07 GMT
We should try Rohit & Rahane in the next test. We can not wait till veterans perform.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 13:59 GMT
You have to love the one eyed indian fans dont you? Their top batsmen have been exposed as either too old or not good enough to score runs in australia. Even sachin who looks good but cant get past 50. Yet the fans still have faith-no wonder the poms beat then 4-0. It is easy!
T on January 3, 2012, 13:56 GMT
Pattinson can be described as being a bit overconfident but the substance of his message is right. Indian batting has been traditionally weak against quality fast bowling in overseas conditions. The sad part of it is that even if India loses 0-4 in this series, this weakness will soon be forgotten once Team India returns home and these same superstars and lesser stars play some dazzling innings on flat tracks at home. Nothing will change until the pitches back home in India are changed to allow the development of quality fast bowlers as well as batsmen capable of handling quality fast bowlers. Yes, India's famous batting lineup has failed but I am not too sure that able replacements are on standby. When it comes to facing good quality fast bowling, India's bench strength is weak as well.
Aditya on January 3, 2012, 13:55 GMT
I still feel Australia is missing a trick - next match they should play Watson (if fit), Christian, and Harris in place of Cowan, Marsh, and Lyon - that would be an impossible team to beat!
As for India, I hope they tour outside Asia only for sightseeing - it is extremely embarrassing for us fans to get up early and see their paper kings blown away match after match
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 13:51 GMT
Pattinson can say anything he wants but should not forget that he is bowling only against the Indian batsmen who anyway aren't great when they go abroad. He must not forget no one knew him even in Australia before this series :)
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 13:50 GMT
i am waiting for last 40 yrs to see when India starts intimidate world cricket with their all area performance...consistantly. I will be happy with 10 continuous yrs.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 13:49 GMT
India can only play well in India..this is such a disappointment...all the oldies should go and young players need to take the charge. These senior players don't have that edge anymore. They are all legends and will always be remembered.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 13:48 GMT
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 13:42 GMT
Aussies shouldn't get too cocky. They are playing at home and their best batsmen are the veterans while the young guns flaky. They are playing a team that is bad away at the best of times and is out of form to make it worse. Lets see how this attack and these batsmen do in England.
Mark on January 3, 2012, 13:35 GMT
lets be honest, it's not hard to intimidate indian batsmen. they can't play fast bowling to save their lives.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 13:34 GMT
I'd wait to see u toil on the 'flat' pitches of the subcontinent...Probably you could've reserved your "we've intimidated them" comment to a later part of your career kid...Just wait till sport shows you what a great leveller it is...
Tahir on January 3, 2012, 13:29 GMT
@sandy_bangalore, India became number one due to these fab3 who have passed their prime. Also some backyard cricket, avoiding pakistan and bangladesh also contibuted to better stats but it did not last long.
Premendra on January 3, 2012, 13:17 GMT
Yes you can speak like this Mr Pattinson till you are in Australia and conditions are helping you at Your home. The same with your batters we have seen when you play in India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Mr Pattinson its just a matter of time that these guys are not getting a good opening partnership once they get that 15-20 over start. They will test your length and line. Don't mind Man you are still a boy in this game.
kannan on January 3, 2012, 13:17 GMT
I said it here on Cricinfo yesterday that Gambhir would be out with next to nothing on the board. I was wrong. There was nothing on the board when he nicked one today.I cannot fathom how he played this test. ( one test too many and now the colt has bolted). Gambhir was never the most technically correct batsman, but he had the mental fortitude and the will to fight, which has now been replaced by complacency and denial ( "I am in fine form, only that i am not getting hundreds ") after he became the 2.4million man. As a die hard Indian fan, i get that sinking gut wrenching feeling that i got when we were playing in England few months ago. A 4-0 thrashing beckons. And, Laxman, thanks for the memories, but its time.
Big on January 3, 2012, 13:16 GMT
Yawn, boring. Nothing new about Australian and England green track pitches. This test is getting as boring as the ashes. I will check back on day 4 for results. Also, this quick pace bowlers are useless on sub-continent pitches, so pattinson needs to shut-up and focus on this bowling.
Srinivas on January 3, 2012, 13:15 GMT
Andy on January 3, 2012, 13:11 GMT
pattinson could turn out like another ajantha mendis, who shone in his first yr and later disappeared
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 13:10 GMT
look at the way the kid is talking... and y shudnt he? its real pity that india cannot unearth one bowler who can knock the head of opposition wth real quick stuff
Guru on January 3, 2012, 13:07 GMT
I reckon its a cheap shot from our quicks to bowl short balls at tailenders. what are they trying to prove?their bowlers are not top batsmen? And its so hipocritical to listen to our players saying 'oh Indian batsmen of that class! and experience! with somany runs!' and then behave like high-school bullies on the field. I commend Indian players on their behaviour. Look what the senior players have taught the younger players in the Australian side, to be arrogant, disrespectful and un-gentlemanly.
I suppose in any sport the winner prevails. Sadly the Australian cricket team, with the 'evil' (sic.) spirit of the game, prevails! for now.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 12:53 GMT
I think its just a case of the Indian batting being more inept than the Aussie batting. Both teams havent exactly set the stage on fire with their batting skills. IN the first test it was mostly even until the fourth day when the Aussies surged ahead (albeit when it mattered most).
Swastik on January 3, 2012, 12:53 GMT
I don't see where he's wrong -- the Indian team genuinely looks to be intimidated by quality fast bowling, barring Dravid & Tendulkar (of course).
Sehwag hasn't scored a lot overseas from 2008, Gambhir has scored but on and off, Laxman has scored for the most part but his form has taken a nosedive in the last few months, the no #6 spot is always a mystery and less said about Dhoni, the better.
Martin on January 3, 2012, 12:52 GMT
@afs_talyarkhan on (January 03 2012, 10:37 AM GMT). Very good observant post. And yet, years later india fans still want Chappells head on a stake! If only they had done what Chappell said they might not be in the decline they are in today. @serious-am-i; nice pointless chest-beating and referrence to the 1960's, a "golden era" for india cricket. 50 years ago. @Lord_Dravid; watch the highlights again. They were intimidated.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 12:48 GMT
Its again the vulnerability of indian batsmen playing in real testing conditions abroad on fast pitches. they are not able to face the pacemen on helping pitches; our so called fast bowlers, except zaheer, are proving ineffective and costly, they are fast paced but are not bowling in the right areas; again team selection is not right, rohit sharma has the technique, temperament and guts to face the fast bowling, he is being made to sit out, kohli is good on home pitches, rohit should have got precedent over kohli. well it looks india will not win even one match, the two bowlers lack the sting and are not hitting the deck, its time to act before its too late.
Andrew on January 3, 2012, 12:47 GMT
I disagree with the fact that India were intimidated. I just feel that some of the batsmen who are out of form are unnecessarily get more chances then they ought to and are spoiling India's chances. Aside for those players, I think India have actually done a very good job of getting to 191 thanks to the middle order for putting up a fight. The Indian tail was indeed a worry because they didn't play the short balls well. But on this pitch I think 220 is a very decent score on this pitch. The pitch will improve on days 2 and 3 and may stay good even on day 4 but day 5 might be a problem for the batsmen. So Australia have to make the most out of tomorrow and get a 1st innings lead of at least 50-100 runs or it might be difficult for them on the 5th day.
a on January 3, 2012, 12:45 GMT
Just what is Gambhir, Laxman & Kolhi doing in Australia ??????
Ramachandran on January 3, 2012, 12:42 GMT
haha.. too much of speaking.. I remember Caddick saying such comments against India and particularly against Sachin during WC'03.. no one can forget that pull which went out of the stadium... this Lad would face one such situation in near future..
H sachin on January 3, 2012, 12:37 GMT
Indian batsmen are missing really good balls and getting out to false shots.
Age/motivation now is making the clock tick-tick.
the World Cup has still emotionally draining effect on motivation it seems?
Tahir on January 3, 2012, 12:32 GMT
No intimidation is needed. You just bowl aggressive and they are back in the pavillian. By indian standards 191 is what you can expect from them but it is against the team who were battered by black caps a short while ago.
Jon on January 3, 2012, 12:28 GMT
@AidanFX - well said re Lyon!! He is actually doing a job at he moment - he isn't getting absolutely murdered, he gets through overs quickly so that the seamers have time to bowl their spells without a threat of slow over rates, and he makes the batters work differently so when they have a quick at the other end they have to re-adjust. @Sweetspot - what a ridiculous comment from you. He is a young bloke, 21, who is enjoying the moment, living the dream and doing a great job for his country. When he is asked about the bowling he offers an opinion which as the scores show is a pretty accurate one. He stills shows respect to the opposition too so why not let him speak?
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 12:20 GMT
hahaha nice say by patto love thsi young blood.its just a begining.....hahahah gr8 only on card not in the fileld
Kuldeep on January 3, 2012, 12:17 GMT
He will look a dumb ass if Indians smash him in the second innnings. I hope they do.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 12:17 GMT
Appreciate your comment Buggsy re Lyon,but give the man time,he like Pattinson is a work in progress and will take time.Also Cummins who I think needs 18 months to finish growing and to develop from 18yo to 20 -21yo,then look out.Saw good signs in BBL tonight (Heat vs Strikers) so I guess we gotta be patient and wait for the young uns to develop,cos they're on their way.Batsmen are the problem currently,but the wickets being turned up are worse,thankfully our bottom half can bat so when the ball's worn we can get match winning runs,at the moment the bottom order is winning us games with batting as well as bowling,but onya Sids,Patto & Hilfy,ya got balls
Valavan on January 3, 2012, 12:16 GMT
@Lord_Dravid, ye pattinson is too young to speak so, i do agree, but why ravichandran ashwin spoke till his ears after getting cheap wickets of club level West Indies team who had no clues against spin bowling, In that case even ashwin should keep quiet as well. Btw did India bowl out aussies under 100, 136, 98, 47. The answer is no, that was quality bowling lineup in favorable conditions used the australian fragile batting, Pinch yourself, Dont you think England, SA have better pacemen than India. So no need to get overrawed, if India would repeat the same as it was in summer, not pattinson, even a tom or dick or harry will say this. cricinfo please publish.
Robert on January 3, 2012, 12:15 GMT
Old news really - Engalnd showed the way during the summer and the Ozzies are just copying. Nothing much to shout out about and as a number have said, he should really let his bowling do the talking.
Shivang on January 3, 2012, 12:14 GMT
i think Pattinson's downfall has already started after such shoddy/toothless comments. you have just won a few battles kiddo against the world's best,useit as part of your knowledge/experience. Somebody who goes on to become a great, worries about his own game and keeps comments like 'intimidating the opposition' limited to the dressing room.
Peter on January 3, 2012, 12:12 GMT
@Full-Blooded-Wallop . Chuckles. But it's worse. You are getting beaten by a team that was dismissed for 47, 98 136!!! Where does that leave you in the food chain??!!!
Bryn on January 3, 2012, 12:12 GMT
haha brilliant. this bloke is a world beater, he can say what he wants hes the more fearsome bowler worldwide now so he can talk the talk
Muhammad Amjad on January 3, 2012, 12:06 GMT
AUS bowling dispaply is too good for experience & record holders batsmans of IND. IND must over cum the problem getting out cheaply out side subcontinent. I think khawaja must replaces Marsh for next two matches.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 12:03 GMT
Harris, Cummins, Pattinson, Siddle, Hilfy, Watson, This is easily the best group of fast bowlers in the world. Not to mention the likes of Cutting, Copeland, Hazelwood, Starc waiting to get a game for Australia. We have simply the greatest depth of quality fast bowlers in world cricket. Not even England can match our depth of quality fast bowlers. The only worry is the batting department which need to quickly find replacements for Hussey and Ponting. Maybe pinching one or two South African batsmen can solve this problem.
sankar on January 3, 2012, 12:02 GMT
You are Spot On! It seems Pattinson himself is setting up for his future failures...I can sense some sort of over proudness is flowing out of him...Mark my words very soon his balls are going to be Thrashed by Sehwag all over the Park...
Satish on January 3, 2012, 12:01 GMT
I guess the credit should go to England for this Aussie win.. They formed a route map to dismantle the famed Indian batting lineup and Aussies just followed it.. Prepare green pitches and bowl every ball in the channel with a occasional inswinger.. Broad and Anderson did it in England with Bresnan as work horse and here Siddle and Pattinson doing with Hilfy as work horse.. Quality wise, Aussie bowling lineup looks better than English attack..
N on January 3, 2012, 12:01 GMT
Pattionson has bowled well this series. But the thing about talkers like him is, when the batsmen do figure him out which will be pretty soon, he won't be able to take the backlash standing up. Besides pure skill, this is the other thing that separates the McGraths and Pattinsons of the world.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 11:57 GMT
It's quite funny how everything that was "expected" to happen by media, fans etc., is kind of being turned topsy turvy. The Indian bowling has been pretty good vs expectations, the batting has been a flop show , Ricky is making a comeback of sorts when people were actually baying for his blood, the inexperienced Aussie attack is hunting like a pack of wolves. The younger Aussies who were to bolster up the batting have failed uptil now ( Warner, Cowan, Marsh). And if we were to move outside India - Aus contest, then you could even add SriLanka humbling SA when the form book suggested otherwise .. looks like the excitement will continue. Personally am disappointed by the way the Indian top order has been performing with 1-2 exception's through England and now Australia. @ TheMehsssiah, your comments smack of bias & being ill-informed.
Siddharth on January 3, 2012, 11:55 GMT
@sweetspot - and all this while its australia who managed to win a series in sri lanka, drew in SA, lost in India only primarily because they were ready to lose few in order to win. Also i think India will have a good chance to beat england at home but again the margin/manner of defeat (if at all Ind manages to win) will just be nowhere near to what we got in england.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 11:55 GMT
Cricket is a funny game, if you make big statements, it has a way of coming back and biting you. The game isnt over yet. Talk big after you win. Thats if you win. Cmon India, show these young pups what cricket is really like.
nik on January 3, 2012, 11:53 GMT
Mr. Pattinson, Don't count the opposition out yet. Enjoy the moment but stop boasting about it. You're doing great. Keep up the good work but be humble. Cricket is a funny game. You are on top one moment and bite the dust the next.
Marcio on January 3, 2012, 11:52 GMT
Nice of Pattinson to give all the secrets away! We know where the Indians will be bowling to him for the rest of the series! Actually, Australia are bowling in similar fashion to England during the Ashes, only faster. Anderson, Tremlett, Bresnan and co only bowl in the 130s for the most part, but put the ball on the spot and swing it. It rained a lot during the Ashes so they exploited that, bowling first 4/5 times on green wickets. It wasn't rocket science. None of those England bowlers is a world beater on his own, but as a disciplined team they were exceptional. On the other hand Siddle was too short, Hilfenhaus too predictable, and Johnson, well, he was just Johnson. Hilfenhaus has added a lot of variety and is bowling faster. His inclusion is a master stroke, as he has been in great form in state games. I think India are in trouble here, as the life has gone out of the wicket. But AUS will need a lead of 150+ here to feel secure.
Hira on January 3, 2012, 11:43 GMT
how dare he say we are intimidated! :D it happens once in a while where a team will get out for a low score and this pitch is helping the bowlers more than the batsmen so lets not get carried away..but at least we weren't out for 47, 98 or 136!
Bilal on January 3, 2012, 11:41 GMT
Inida need young blood and india need to prepare bouncy pitches back home otherwise you will see this again and again in future that they can only win in there own home.... so SAD to see the stats of players getting out against so young bowlers like mouse and cat show....
Siddharth on January 3, 2012, 11:36 GMT
@ TheMehssiah - Harsh words. Cricket remains competitive if played everywhere and against every team. Im no supporter of BCCI and agree that what they are doing isnt benefiting the cricket in India itself let alone world. But you may need to go in history to see what English did while heading the administration , for instance having seven players on the on side was acceptable since bodyline series and became a limit only when english players werent able to score agains similar field placements against Indian spinners in India.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 11:35 GMT
Arthur is correct, this Aussie attack can be the best in the world. Watch out England, we are going to get the ashes back in 2013.
Andy on January 3, 2012, 11:30 GMT
another good day in the park for Aussie quicks and one more pathetic batting display by the Indian batting line up. The damn thing is top 5 can't be replaced how much ever they score in the name of form. VVS needs to buckle up or pack up its too short for him. @Themehssiah: Yeah get ur English side to the subcontinent and win a single test in India, will agree you are a good side. All urside can boast of is in swing helpful conditions, we saw how good they were in the white washed ODI series in India. Some one says damage may be past has to be remember which board destroyed the real fun of cricket by limiting to just 2 fielders on the onside as they couldn't score of the Indian spin wizards of the 60's. Aus and SAF have always been competitive against india how ever broke they were with the teams, the same can't be said to your English side.
Senthil on January 3, 2012, 11:25 GMT
Somehow this young fellow is setting himself up for a real thrashing as soon as he comes out of his comfort zone. Cricket is just such a superb leveler. All this sort of cricket is proving is that all teams are rather good at home. Australia were not even that good at home against England, but now they're coming into their own in their backyard. Seriously, why can't players from all over the world who are used to playing brilliantly in "challenging" conditions, ever score more than India in the "flat" tracks there?
Valavan on January 3, 2012, 11:25 GMT
Pattinson must do the talking with the ball. No need to write feeds.cricinfo please publish.
Aidan on January 3, 2012, 11:19 GMT
I am going to say something here. The seamers did the job. Nice spread of wickets from the 3 seamers. A simplistic comment would say "Drop Lyon - bring in Harris". Well I suggest this might seam wise but I beg to differ. Maybe horses for courses policies apply (different grounds) - but listen the variety in the attack is important - whether he appears he is troubling Indian players or not; he is currently doing what is required of him. It was funny reading all the smug comments from Indian fans saying "please select Lyon India will smash him" - well as it turns out the side was bowled out for - 200. But keep in mind the wicket may break up for the second inns so he could come into the game. But also don't underestimate how his variety helps the team overall. Although Indian players seam to read him well if they were only getting seamers they will eventually get accustomed to this kind of bowling. He speeds up the over rate too. This also helps teams perform well and dominate.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 11:15 GMT
Freo75, Just like England pinching all the South African reserve players?? LOL Jame Pattinson was born in Melbourne Australia and is much better than His brother, or indeed any England seamers
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 11:14 GMT
pattinson is talking too, well its his day and a new blood in test arena . But we shud not write off india , we will bounce back and win this test match. We are like badly wounded tigers..
Andrew on January 3, 2012, 11:11 GMT
@Full-Blooded-Wallop - LOL! Funny how none of those score were against India! LOL! Don't worry Ashwin get India's first double ton in the series... with the ball 40-4-202-1! LOL!!!!! @Yevghenny - shhhh! @sankar8000 - hope springs eternal!!!!! @Gordon Booth - I think its too early to say what influence Arthurs has had, I'd give him a bonus point if he organised the batting boot/detention camp though. I think the credit is with Craig Mac, he deserves every credit for Pattinson & Siddles's returns. With Hilfy, its probably the Tassie coaching regime more so, although I think from memory Hilfy was on the A-team tour of Zim & Craig Mac was there too!
Rajit on January 3, 2012, 11:09 GMT
Well as Pattison has bowled, let him do the talking once he's proved himself for 3 good seasons. The batting lineup he has "intimidated" has got 50000+ runs against some very good attacks, including the bowlers who've kept him out. On the other hand, the ageing Indian geniuses should take a good hard look at themselves.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 11:06 GMT
Somebody's lovin their temporary fame - pretty bold coming from a guy who's played what? FOUR TEST MATCHES
Owais on January 3, 2012, 11:03 GMT
Aussy bowling has picked itself up superbly since Ashes. Only the batting needs more consistency. Indians on the other hand owe most of their success to top order blundgeoning by Sehwag and class acts of Dravid, Tendulkar and Laxman. If Sehwag fails upfront, there is all likelihood that Indians would be bundled out below 300. Another thing going against Indians at the moment is that its just a matter of time before the great ZAK breaks down. Without their leader, even quality pacer like Sharma fails to take many wickets.
Karthi Keyan on January 3, 2012, 11:02 GMT
Pattinson has been the stand-out performer for Australia and clearly one of the key reasons why they have won the first and look likely to win the second. That the Aussie bowlers are doing so well against an experienced batting line up is even more impressive. Just the boost Australia need to launch their rally to emerge as a top Test team again.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 10:53 GMT
Great display of fast bowling accompanied by poor display of batting
simon on January 3, 2012, 10:49 GMT
Fighting talk from Pattinson - good for him that he has managed to experience test cricket after being unable to break into the England setup like his brother did.
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 10:48 GMT
I guess he is right...Indian famed battling line up has proved to be nothing short of palace of sand...the waves come and destroy it as if it never existed.
Siddharth on January 3, 2012, 10:48 GMT
Very good bowling by aussies and pattinson in particular. Strange how newcomers give a lesson to seasoned players by keeping things simple and accurate. Also the sustained energy and aggression of this attack was pleasing to the eye considering the long spells that were bowled on a hot day. Way to go guys .....
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 10:45 GMT
Add to line and length discipline some well directed short stuff which will always unsettle most players.I could see a few of the Indian players weren't keen to get behind the ball and played with the bat pushed out in front of the pads,Dravid in particular.Micky Arthurs is making a difference already to the way Aussie players are thinking,much as John Worsfold did with the West Coast Eagles last year.It's incredible what confidence and self belief can achieve and fantastic to watch the turnaround
sfsdf on January 3, 2012, 10:37 GMT
Great to see a fiery young quick harass and humble the so called masters, masters who have never won a test series in south africa or autralia so how masterful can they really be?
Bis on January 3, 2012, 10:37 GMT
As an India fan I have been waiting a long time for this moment when India get crushed by belligerent, hostile quick bowling aimed squarely at the ribcage. India have been complacent, flatulent, smug, self-satisfied, for far too long and are still living off the crumbs from Sourav Ganguly's golden era. The only man who tried to shake things up was Greg Chappell, because he recognised that Ganguly's era had come to an end and India would have to blood a new generation of players. Instead we have the grotesque sight of 37-39 year old "stars" going out there to take a beating like punch drunk boxers from fit, young, hostile quicks. Now perhaps the BCCI will realise that they need to look beyond their stars, play less odi and ipl, have more preparation time and first class practice matches during foreign tours. Or will they? And yes we will get the same cacophony of deluded Indian fans shouting - wait till the next test, the next series, then we'll show them - yea yea yea grow up and shhhh
sankar on January 3, 2012, 10:25 GMT
What to say?!...it is now pattinson's time and hence he can talk anything....
Viru's time will come and at that time he will smash him all over the park....
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 10:16 GMT
Once Australia makes a first innings score of 350+, it's game over for India. Ponting, by the looks of it, may go on and score a hundred. I'm not too sure about Clarke though. India should invest in the youths like Rahane and Sharma NOW or else they are heading to join my team, the West Indies in the bottom half of the international cricket rankings.
G on January 3, 2012, 10:14 GMT
The bouncer is soon going to be outlawed from the game entirely, we can't upset India can we?
Stephen on January 3, 2012, 10:10 GMT
From an England fan - it's been brilliant to see Pattinson and Cummins come through, and particularly against India, a team and board which has done more than any other to damage test cricket as a brand. The test game needs top quality, competitive contests between England, Australia and South Africa. Hopefully with the sides that England and South Africa have, and Australia are developing, the game can go from strength to strength. As for India, maybe they can stick to having competitive contests against the West Indies.
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Nitin on January 3, 2012, 10:09 GMT
Atleast we didn't get out on 47..98..136 lolzz
Luke on January 3, 2012, 10:06 GMT
No doubt Pattinson has had a stellar start to his Test career and has given hope to all us Aussies, especially since last summer when the bowling was worse than embarrassing. Hopefully none of this goes to his head and he stays grounded (and fit...). Also can't believe what I'm seeing with Siddle, 1000% improvement. With Hilfenhaus in career best form and Harris champing at the bit, it looks as though the pace bowling has finally hit international standards. Still not sold on Lyon though, I don't think I've seen one single ball bother the Indians.
Sandy on January 3, 2012, 10:05 GMT
This clearly showed that all Indian batsmen, except tendulkar and dravid/laxman(though they are out of form) are FLAT track bullies and are clueless when the ball starts doing even a bit. It was sickening to see sehwag hit that 219 against a bunch of trundlers led by Darren Sammy on a pancake flat wicket, knowing all the while that he would struggle here. How this team got to No1 should feature in the next edition of Ripleys believe it or not!
django on January 3, 2012, 9:55 GMT
The first genuine leader of an attack since Mr McGrath. Will be interesting to see him have a bad day to see how he bounces back. Unfortunately he just doesnt seem to be having any.
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django on January 3, 2012, 9:55 GMT
The first genuine leader of an attack since Mr McGrath. Will be interesting to see him have a bad day to see how he bounces back. Unfortunately he just doesnt seem to be having any.
Sandy on January 3, 2012, 10:05 GMT
This clearly showed that all Indian batsmen, except tendulkar and dravid/laxman(though they are out of form) are FLAT track bullies and are clueless when the ball starts doing even a bit. It was sickening to see sehwag hit that 219 against a bunch of trundlers led by Darren Sammy on a pancake flat wicket, knowing all the while that he would struggle here. How this team got to No1 should feature in the next edition of Ripleys believe it or not!
Luke on January 3, 2012, 10:06 GMT
No doubt Pattinson has had a stellar start to his Test career and has given hope to all us Aussies, especially since last summer when the bowling was worse than embarrassing. Hopefully none of this goes to his head and he stays grounded (and fit...). Also can't believe what I'm seeing with Siddle, 1000% improvement. With Hilfenhaus in career best form and Harris champing at the bit, it looks as though the pace bowling has finally hit international standards. Still not sold on Lyon though, I don't think I've seen one single ball bother the Indians.
Nitin on January 3, 2012, 10:09 GMT
Atleast we didn't get out on 47..98..136 lolzz
Samarth on January 3, 2012, 10:10 GMT
Stephen on January 3, 2012, 10:10 GMT
From an England fan - it's been brilliant to see Pattinson and Cummins come through, and particularly against India, a team and board which has done more than any other to damage test cricket as a brand. The test game needs top quality, competitive contests between England, Australia and South Africa. Hopefully with the sides that England and South Africa have, and Australia are developing, the game can go from strength to strength. As for India, maybe they can stick to having competitive contests against the West Indies.
G on January 3, 2012, 10:14 GMT
The bouncer is soon going to be outlawed from the game entirely, we can't upset India can we?
Dummy4 on January 3, 2012, 10:16 GMT
Once Australia makes a first innings score of 350+, it's game over for India. Ponting, by the looks of it, may go on and score a hundred. I'm not too sure about Clarke though. India should invest in the youths like Rahane and Sharma NOW or else they are heading to join my team, the West Indies in the bottom half of the international cricket rankings.
sankar on January 3, 2012, 10:25 GMT
What to say?!...it is now pattinson's time and hence he can talk anything....
Viru's time will come and at that time he will smash him all over the park....
Bis on January 3, 2012, 10:37 GMT
As an India fan I have been waiting a long time for this moment when India get crushed by belligerent, hostile quick bowling aimed squarely at the ribcage. India have been complacent, flatulent, smug, self-satisfied, for far too long and are still living off the crumbs from Sourav Ganguly's golden era. The only man who tried to shake things up was Greg Chappell, because he recognised that Ganguly's era had come to an end and India would have to blood a new generation of players. Instead we have the grotesque sight of 37-39 year old "stars" going out there to take a beating like punch drunk boxers from fit, young, hostile quicks. Now perhaps the BCCI will realise that they need to look beyond their stars, play less odi and ipl, have more preparation time and first class practice matches during foreign tours. Or will they? And yes we will get the same cacophony of deluded Indian fans shouting - wait till the next test, the next series, then we'll show them - yea yea yea grow up and shhhh


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Prior to Venrock, Bob served in the Obama Administration as Special Assistant to the President for Healthcare and Economic Policy and a member of the National Economic Council. In the Obama Administration, Bob was one of the shapers of the healthcare reform legislation focusing on cost, quality, and delivery system reform. He was one of the leaders of the First Lady's "Let's Move" childhood obesity initiative, led the formation of the Partnership for a Healthier America and served on the Federal Advisory Panel charged with developing a national obesity strategy. Prior to the White House, he was a Partner at McKinsey & Company where he led McKinsey Global Institute's healthcare economics work and Center for U.S. Health Reform as well as worked with the various constituencies in the healthcare ecosystem to improve health policy, productivity, clinical outcomes, and patient experience.
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February 14, 2013 | Costs and Spending, Health Equity, Hospitals, Medicare, Payment Policy, Quality
Creating Outcome-Driven Health Care Markets
America's health care market does not work well. It is inefficient, asymmetric, and in most cases not particularly competitive. The Affordable Care Act (ACA) legislated a myriad of changes to reform and improve insurance markets with exchanges as a centerpiece. While exchanges and reforms...
October 23, 2012 | Costs and Spending, Following the ACA, Insurance and Coverage, Organization and Delivery, Payment Policy, Quality
Meaningful Use Of Health IT Stage 2: The Broader Meaning
On February 24, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) and the Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology (ONC) issued the proposed "stage 2" rules for the meaningful use of electronic health records. Stage 2 unequivocally lays out three bold...
March 15, 2012 | Health IT, Payment Policy, Quality