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No.6 Episode 10 Discussion
Sep 8, 2011 1:24 PM
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Now that was a WOW episode.
When Nezumi got shot, I raged! THAT PICE OF SHIT >_> I was msging my friend and she was like "wtf o,o"
I'm glad also that I'm not the only one who thinks that Shion was kinda half affected by Elyurias. It was just not like him and the eyes were similar to Safu's in the end so yeah.
But Nezumi's heartbroken face at first when he shot those 2 guards and Shion didn't care at all and then with Shion killing that guard x.x I wanted to hug Nezumi so much x.x He broke down </3 Though when Shion finally hugged him and Nezumi opened his eyes , he so looked like a girl -.-
I've been saying since like episode 2 that those 2 should confess to each other already /o/ It's so obvious to the yaoi fangirl (aka me) that it hurts to see only hints /o/
Can't believe only 1 epi remains =/ Sad we didn't get to see a preview but I guess more suspense that way T^T
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alec613 said:
This show doesn't get the respect it truly deserves. It's one of the best last summer. People just couldn't stomach the bromance and end up bashing the anime.
Looks like Safu and Shion are made for each other...They're both natural born killers xD
wth are you talking about?! There isnt any one person who doesnt respect this awesome show. Whther they care for any bromance or not...
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Sharyka said:
ladyAre said:
and also:
OMG... I've been watching episode with my dark laptop and haven't even noticed it! To understand this pic I've adjusted some light and... bwah it's really depressing.
Furthermore, that "human mountain" was the most shocking environment in whole no.6 x_X
AND A LITTLE BIT OFFTOPIC --> Where could I read novel ? I've been reading it here http://9th-ave.blogspot.com/p/no-6.html but it's stuck for some while and I want to read more till the anime is still airing >_<
OMG! I totally saw him grab that too and think wait isnt that aba chans needle stick?! but then they didnt really focus on it so i thought it was just a lucky grab.
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SHION... BABY! ;__; NOOO!!! I didnt want him to do it! ;___;
I am speechless with this episode...
So many emotions...
and I cant believe next week is the last episode! T~T
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oh my ..
that was really great ep !!
sion was daaaaaamn cool !!! i like him moore in this waay !!
never expect thaat though ,,,
caant wait for the next
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Shion killed someone!!! wow i kinda like the messed up killer Shion though, great episode loved all of it.
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Wow, this episode was surprising! Fast paced, action packed with awesome animation. Also Shion suddenly got manlier, and near the end he was quite psycho. And even though I hate Rat, I went bawww when he was saying it's all his fault. And the very end scene left me with shivers. If the last episode will be as awesome, my score will go up (until this episode, it was 5-6/10 for me).
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Gaaahhhh no preview! But I guess it's better this way. Aside from what I think I've been spoiled on (not sure) I can fully enjoy next week's ep.
I feel like there's so much to cover in just one last episode. Of course Elyurias is responsible for the bees, but what are they for? It can't be simple retribution; she's obviously doing something with them, whether it's harvesting energy or something else. Also, what's the deal with her song? I *think* I know WHO it's about, but I don't know what it's going to do when Nezumi inevitably sings it again??? Since it's supposed to be a "song of survival" I'm hoping it heals Nezumi's wounds... lol... wishful thinking. Also, Youming's revolution has yet to start. Man I hope that gives cover for everyone who can to escape that nightmare. A lot of wishful thinking here, I know. xD
It's just such a beautiful love story between the two boys it will crush me if one of them dies. Either one having to live on without the other would crush me. It would be nice if Safu survived too, but... I kind of got disturbed by her saying she's "selfish" and what Sion wants "is not [her] concern" (関係無い). And it broke my heart to watch Nezumi's heart get broken over and over throughout this episode. Especially with how happy he was last week when Sion was talking about living with him in the summer. But I *know* that Sion still loves him more than anyone else, so I hope he will realise that again soon. It sucks watching him helplessly "lose" Sion like this. T_T
*edit* Also, it shocked me that Nezumi seems to have completely abandoned his plan to get revenge on No. 6. And it's not because he doesn't hate them anymore-- it's because he wants to protect Sion from violence and from seeing him do unnecessary violence.... yet look what happened anyway. T_T
No one spoil this for me please!!! I'll see what happens next week.
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I think even looking at things objectively it's fairly clear Sion's got romantic feelings for Nez and not Safu. I mean come on, he turned down her offer of sex and now he's confessed his love to Nezumi THREE times (in the anime)! In the book I've seen two confessions so far, but you learn there that he was also sighing and longing for Nezumi whenever it rained or whenever he had cocoa for their whole 4 years apart. Also when they were 12 years old, and Nezumi asked why Sion was helping him, in the book the final reason that Sion he couldn't tell Nezumi was that he was captivated by his grey eyes.
If Nezumi had gotten over his trust issues faster, and made some more obvious moves than occasionally caressing Sion's face and stroking his hair, and calling him "sexy" (depending on your definition of つやっぽい), Sion would have responded immediately and he would not have to be feeling so much doubt right now. It kills me that Nezumi seems to be getting crushed by the thought of Sion changing and leaving him for Safu... but I think it's clear to the rest of us that Sion will never do such a thing. And I'm hopeful his "soulless" moments are being caused by Elyurias somehow. (I say "soulless" because I think it's Sion's heart and soul that were stolen by Nezumi in Elyurias' song.)
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great episode, after the cliffhanger of an ending from the last episode i thought the people from the outside were being turned into food for the people in the inside *_* they never did explain why there were so many dead bodies ?? (did i miss that?)
anyway, one more episode, so much loose ends to tie up. anyone thinks safu kills nezumi?
"....i am the villain in this story"
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OMFG... SHION! He shot him, he didn't even blink, the guy begged for his life, he killed him. He has like...possessed. (But I have to say - that was extremely cool.)So, Shion changed? This episode gave quite a highlight to that. I don't believe that was kind of a sudden change (sure the circumstances triggered it), it was more as a consequence of shock, also Shion already showed he's hell scary when it comes to defend dear Nezumi. I already thought that Shion wasn't that hopeless kind of guy who always depends on others, you go Shion! But I'm a bit worried that this fierce Shion side takes over his other great sides, his ideals: every human is equal, his 3rd options, his natural kindness... (yanderes are kinda creppy o.o but I like Shion nonetheless :p)
OMG...NEZUMI! He got shot!! Twice!!
Am I overreacting? NO! I SHOULD SCREAM MORE! (ok enough fan-idiocy :| )
And he cried. HE WAS CRYING! (I said...enough >.> I'm really sorry for this childish behaviour of myself. It's that I get emotional and bla-blabla...)
That scene was touching, Nezumi has melted for Shion, and he knows it...and damn, he just wanted to preserve unstained, nice Shion...I feel ya, my dear.
oh way yeah action!
The whole infiltration scene was cool and exciting, I mean, you could feel the atmosphere. As expected from this awesome show ^_^
And what did that little girl (lili, was it?) see there? I guess I'll find out next week.
Oh and:
Lol at Dogkeeper expression when they saw the baby...and then: "mama" loool (srsly What's her/his gender for God sake?! I don't know, never knew, and it...doesn't really matter!...but I want to know >.< The same drama every week XD)
And the end, with Safu...that aura of her o.o ...I felt it here o.o
What happened to her?...aff next week, next week u.u
And, and, and...I sure took a long time on my reaction to this, and I'm still as bad at writing and organizing ideas-correction-silly reactions as ever. Oh what to do-
AND, that's it...waiting for next week. (the last one...noooo!)
Modified by Rianri, Sep 9, 2011 10:11 AM
Sep 8, 2011 6:14 PM
New theory:
This isn't based on any kind of spoilers; I'm only following the novel/manga online, which are far behind the anime.
I think maybe Elyurias is using Safu AND Sion to get to Nezumi (last of the forest people). But I don't know what her goal is or what she'll do with any of the three of them once she has him near her. I wonder if it's Nezumi or Safurias who's going to sing the song next week, hmmm?
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amginex said:
great episode, after the cliffhanger of an ending from the last episode i thought the people from the outside were being turned into food for the people in the inside *_* they never did explain why there were so many dead bodies ?? (did i miss that?)
LOL omg food? That would be even creepier o.o Somehow, I think I saw something like that somewhere :S
Dead bodies...well they could already be there, before...I guess o.o
amginex said:
anyway, one more episode, so much loose ends to tie up. anyone thinks safu kills nezumi?
Geez, hope she doesn't do that...*knocks on wood*
Your post disturbed me xP
ladyAre said:
that's kind of sad.
yeah, I noticed that too u.u
On SafuxShionxNezumi triangle (xP) ...Shion and Nezumi love each other, Safu loves Shion, as simple as that. ...I'm afraid of what Safu may do, since she's possessed or something by Elyurias. What's Elyurias objective anyway?...no idea.
@whitetear I like your theories but they're confusing me...
whitetear said:
New theory:
This isn't based on any kind of spoilers; I'm only following the novel/manga online, which are far behind the anime.
I think maybe Elyurias is using Safu AND Sion to get to Nezumi (last of the forest people). But I don't know what her goal is or what she'll do with any of the three of them once she has him near her. I wonder if it's Nezumi or Safurias who's going to sing the song next week, hmmm?
Safurias -> LOL
They'll sing together XD
But if Nezumi is from the same place as Elyurias, then...and if he knows her song, then why does she get to Shion and Safu first to "catch" him next...and what for?
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Intense episode don't know how they will finish it in one episode but guess we will see, and I made a mistake of looking at that spoiler but I already knew some of it so guess I know how now too.
Sion will never be with Safu but let the ones who want to ignore the shonen ai label on this anime have their dream.
Sion is obsessively inlove Nezumi and that goes both ways, Nezumi was so pitiful in this episode and seems anger causes Sion to black out but only when he fears losing Nezumi or someone hurts Nezumi.
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Rianri said:I think she used them to get Nez near her. When he fainted, Ely talked about teaching him the song, and the same day he fainted at the play was the same day (in the anime) that Sion had an "episode". That first blanked-out, "soulless" episode of Sion's was directly related to his fear that Nezumi would die from a parasite bee. So Sion is there to care for Nezumi, and Safu is there to draw Sion, who will bring along Nezumi. That's as far as my theory goes, though. I don't know what Ely wants, once she gets Nez near her, except to sing the song she taught him...
@whitetear I like your theories but they're confusing me...
whitetear said:
New theory:
This isn't based on any kind of spoilers; I'm only following the novel/manga online, which are far behind the anime.
I think maybe Elyurias is using Safu AND Sion to get to Nezumi (last of the forest people). But I don't know what her goal is or what she'll do with any of the three of them once she has him near her. I wonder if it's Nezumi or Safurias who's going to sing the song next week, hmmm?
Safurias -> LOL
They'll sing together XD
But if Nezumi is from the same place as Elyurias, then...and if he knows her song, then why does she get to Shion and Safu first to "catch" him next...and what for?
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Got to the sci-fi action I was looking forward to. Very nicely done.
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That was a lot darker and bloodier than I was expecting. (Though, why did they dump all the people in that pit to kill them? Wouldn't it have been easier to kill them in the town than to haul them to the prison? Or was that just a plot device to get Nezumi and Sion into the city? >_- )
The baby was cute.
I'm gonna bet that Safu has turned evil and will do something BAAAD.
@Nezumi: It's your fault Sion turned out this way. You were a bad parent and brought him up wrong!
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Nezumi crying broke my heart :(
Sion was friggin bad ass! I was like daaaaaang!
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The manga shows more detail then the anime but it is so far behind and they seem slow at releasing chapters hope it makes up for what the anime left out, I hope they can do this justice in only one more episode.
Nezumi was heartbreaking in this episode but Sion will kill anyone when it comes to Nezumi I believe not the first time, he almost choked the guy to death for asking Nezumi to be a prostitute so yeah I expected he would do much worse if someone actually hurt Nezumi.
Oh and Safu does not stand a chance and never had one ;)
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Inukashi, still not sure if he/she is a boy or girl, and the ojisan surprising at the baby in Shion's coat... and Inukashi as mama?
Piles of dead? people... and they have to climb up.
The little girl is helping Karan out.
Eh~?! Safu = that forest girl!!
After getting through the cleaning lab room, it seems like Shion knows the way? And changed when Nezumi was hurt.
And Safu's completely different.
Next ep. will be the last.
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Rocky Mount, VA - The Town of Rocky Mount has introduced its newest fire truck, which replaces the one lost after a fatal crash nearly two years ago. The new truck was delivered last Thursday.
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It's a phone. It doesn't cure cancer. It won't bring about world peace. It isn't a one-time event or even a limited quantity. If they sell out, they will make more. Seeing these lines for the fifth version of a phone that is already owned by everyone I know who wants one makes a little bit of my belief that humans are the dominant species die just a little.
Apple (AAPL) is not only in the news today, it is the news. The world is nothing more than a giant Apple tree, and you either enjoy the shade of being under Apple by being long or risk getting hit in the head by some falling fruit being short. A straight march to $705 over the first hour of trading after a very quick early morning hiccup, but I think this one is too tough to call a pin on today. I would say $700 through $710 are all still on the table....266 more words left in this article. To read them, just click below and try Real Money FREE for 14 days.
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This week in Arkansas Business:
At the rate Arkansas is awarding college scholarships, money in the Arkansas Department of Higher Education's reserve fund will run out by 2013. So director Jim Purcell says he'll ask the Legislature this January to provide more money for scholarships or allow the department to cut the number awarded.
Meanwhile, the DHE is investigating how schools waive out-of-state tuition for certain students.
The latest list of the state's top colleges and universities shows tuition up at most Arkansas schools.
The Log Cabin Democrat in Conway lays off two staffers, leaving a newsroom of six, in the aftermath of parent company Morris Publishing Group's emergence from bankruptcy.
Go Red Wolves! This Arkansas State University graduate is now a VP at Verizon.
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We are thankful that the Bible addresses a wide variety of questions and issues. Throughout church history we have been able to have many important questions answered by the Scriptures. At the same time this comprehensive biblical coverage provides answers that occasionally make people uneasy. Often times these topics are referred to as "controversial issues." Some people want to avoid talking about these things and others enjoy it. The former out of a distaste for controversy and the latter out of a craving for it. Still others find these topics important and aim to cut through the fog to show what the Bible teaches and why it is important for the church to think through.
In Things That Go Bump in the Church I believe the authors are aiming to cut through the fog and be helpful. They tackle 14 topics ranging from sin to grace to free will to homosexuality to demons to church discipline. The three authors, (Mike Abendroth, Clint Archer, and Byron Yawn), themselves pastors, work through the issues in a pastoral fashion.
Books like this don't aim to present anything new, they are trying to reinforce what is true. In so doing they give confidence to those who may be wavering while also providing a fresh way to articulate the biblical doctrine. As a pastor, I find these types of books, when they are done well, to be a rich blessing. They remind me of the importance of the doctrine and help me to communicate it to those I shepherd.
As I said at the outset, the issues they tackled are often considered controversial. You shouldn't be surprised therefore if you happen to disagree with the authors at some point. However, you will find yourself encouraged as you, yourself work through it again.
The one thing I wasn't won over by with this book was the title. Maybe Things That Go Bump in the Church has some pop culture reference that I don't get but it would seem that another title would better communicate what they were after.
I recommend the book and think it would be a valuable contribution to your library as you think through these perennially controversial but still important issues.
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Promoter Sampson Lewkowicz wishes to congratulate Cesar Mercedes of Dominican Republic-based Manguita Promotions, for managing his first world champion and also sends thanks to Doug Loughrey, Director of Programming and Acquisitions at ESPN, now that featherweight Javier "El Abejon" Fortuna (21-0, 15 KOs) is the interim WBA Featherweight Champion.
Fighting on the Pacquiao/Marquez IV undercard, Fortuna defeated New York, via Ireland's Patrick Hyland by scores of 118-110, 116-112, and 115-113 to win the world title belt.
"I know what a thrill it is to be the manager of a world champion and I want to say that it couldn't have happened to a better person," said Lewkowicz. "Cesar and I have always believed in Javier and now the world sees how right we were. He will go on now to have a wonderful career and he is just the first of many Dominican boxers who will someday win a title under Cesar Mercedes and Sampson Boxing."
Meanwhile, Lewkowicz also sends his sincere thanks to Doug Loughrey, Director of Programming and Acquisitions at ESPN, for his and his network's role in the development of Fortuna into a world champion.
"Doug Loughrey and ESPN have been instrumental in making Javier a well-known boxer. Without his willingness to repeatedly showcase Javier, he would not have risen to the level he is now at. We are forever grateful for this to Doug Loughrey and everyone at ESPN."
Lewkowicz says there are many potentially lucrative fights to be made for Fortuna, but for now it is time to celebrate. "Cesar Mercedes and I will sit down and map a course for Javier, but right now we are celebrating his landmark victory."
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The 10-round main event features light heavyweight Will "Power" Rosinsky (16-2, 9 KOs), fighting out of Queens (NY), against former USBA champion Otis "Triple OG" Griffin (24-10-2, 10 KOs).
Also fighting on the broadcast in a pair of eight-round bouts are red-hot Los Angeles-based lightweight prospect Ivan Redkach (12-0, 11 KOs) versus New York State champion Edward "Tyson" Valdez (11-8-2, 8 KOs), while Brooklyn junior welterweight Gabriel "Tito" Bracero (20-1, 3 KOs) takes on veteran Johnnie "The Lumberjack" Edwards (15-5-1, 8 KOs).
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A four-time New York Golden Gloves winner, as well as a 2005 U.S. National amateur champion, Rosinksy is an Emergency Medical Technician (EMT) at FDNY's station in East New York, Brooklyn. He will be out to rebound from back-to-back losses in nationally televised fights to world title contender Edwin Rodriguez and former world champion Kelly Pavlik.
Griffin is best known as the winner of Oscar de la Hoya's "The Next Great Champ" reality television show. The Sacramento native has defeated world champion Byron Mitchell and he went the distance with Jeff Lacy, Cedric Agnew, Shawn Hawk and Yusaf Mack.
As a professional prizefighter, Ukrainain-born Redkach has put 11 of his 12 victims to sleep, including the last three in the opening round. The lone fighter Redkach failed to stop lost due to disqualification for excessive holding. His opponent, Valdez, is battle-tested having fought top prospects such as Luis Joel Gonzalez, Chris Algieri, Carney Bowman, Antonio Espinosa and Matt Remillard.
Popular Puerto Rican fighter Bracero, a former North American Boxing Federation (NABF) champion, is back on track with two straight victories since he suffered his lone pro loss this past January to former world champion DeMarcus Corley. Edwards, who holds two wins over two-time world champion Freddie Norwood, has been stopped only once in 21 fights, to rising star Yuriokis Gamboa.
Some of the other fights on the Dec. 19th "Broadway Boxing" card, or highlights, may also be televised on FIGHT NOW TV, pending time availability.
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I'M NOT sure how much disappointment a bloke can take.
Every time I pick myself up, they knock me back down again.
One minute I had my whole future mapped out - tropical islands, unlimited bourbon, endless massages, the lot.
Then it all turned to poo.
A few days ago, for about five minutes, my wife and I were the only ones who knew about Aussies being able to enter that big American lotto.
You know, the one with the $2 billion first prize.
She'd found some obscure item on the internet and had signed up and lodged an entry before you could say "what are the odds of winning that?".
The answer, by the way, is one in 292 million.
But for some reason I can't explain, we were confident our time had come.
Despite the long odds, we were convinced the universe couldn't possibly overlook the novelty value of having a couple of Aussies winning America's biggest lottery.
Who cared that there was more chance of being struck by lightning in the next 12 hours?
Then they drew the bloody thing and some hicks from upstate buggery split it three ways.
It's also a pity because I love that feeling when there's still hope.
That feeling when you've got a lotto ticket but haven't checked it yet because until you hear differently, you can still believe you may have won.
I don't know if that makes us optimists or just bloody idiots.
My wife and I like to play that game where we pretend we've won millions of dollars and then have a serious discussion about how we would spend it.
It can go on for days. Spending a million here and a million there on trips, cars and the new friends.
Of course, when we don't win our world falls apart. Depression sets in and we cry ourselves to sleep.


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While GOP frontrunner Newt Gingrich participated in a Lincoln-Douglas debate with Jon Huntsman in New Hampshire, Mitt Romney had already slipped out of the Granite State after a day of campaigning and into the arms of some very generous supporters.
As much as $1.1 million was reportedly raised at a much-anticipated fundraiser this evening in Parsippany, N.J., which was hosted by N.J. Gov. Chris Christie, who endorsed Romney in October.
"Welcome to Morris County. Welcome to New Jersey. And New Jersey tonight is officially Mitt Romney country," Christie said, introducing Romney this evening.
"As you've watched Gov. Romney perform over the last number of months in the many debates that our Republican presidential candidates have participated in, the things that are constant in Gov. Romney's performances are things that will be constants in his presidency," Christie said, according to a pool report from the event.
Christie said Romney has the "integrity of his principles."
Romney also spoke to the crowd of about 500, joking that New Jersey must have a problem with border security as he noticed New Yorkers in the crowd. (Romney makes a similar joke when he sees residents from Massachusetts at events in New Hampshire).
"There are more Republicans here than my whole state," Romney told the crowd, before heaping praise on Christie.
"This guy's just amazing. The whole nation's watching this guy," Romney said.
And they are: When Christie traveled to Des Moines, Iowa, last week on behalf of the former Massachusetts governor he could not escape questions about his own desire to run for president.
Even earlier today, at a diner in Manchester, the town's mayor, Ted Gatsas, asked Romney to bring Christie out on the trail in New Hampshire.
Gatsas joked that Christie makes him look "dwarfed," which is one reason he'd like to campaign next to him.
"He's better than a diet!" Romney roared.
On the menu tonight at the fundraiser? Tacos, fajitas, guacamole, roast beef and ziti.


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I guess the point that it is trying to make is OK, but it oversimplifies the problem. Overpopulation is not related to merely food or space. Those are the two things this planet has enough of (we have yet to colonize the high seas! plus food replenishes itself unless one depletes the soil).
However, as the video cleverly pointed out, we're moving into more and more advanced standards of living. Where we before only required clean water, food, a place to settle and perhaps some hides to keep warm, we today need fuel, construction material etc. These resources are limited. This is not even mentioning how increasing use of these resources have devastating effects on the environment we depend on to collect food, water, living space etc. It's all about balance. Overpopulation is a complex equation of living standards, technology, climate. in addition to food and space as mentioned in the movie.
Not to mention that according to the rules of diminishing returns, the space we first use is the most suitable. As we use more and more space each square meter beomes less suitable for habitation, thus more resource consuming (problems of exposure to extreme environment, longer supply routes etc). Not to mention how our living space and the connected infrastructure increases with standard of living, and it usually grows at the expense of farmland, meaning it becomes harder to feed these people.
There might be much more, but I don't have more time. It's a nice video, but one cannot solve such huge questions in a two minute video or whatever, and should be treated as such
Player0, you should add your own words to the initial post. I don't like threads that start as a single link or link to a video with no original input.
I agree overpopulation is a myth. Can anyone say the world would be better off without some segment of the population? Even if you cut out all the slum residents around the world, that would still harm the local economy because slum resident contribute immensely to the urban economy as street sweepers, rickshaw pullers, house cleaners, cooks, etc.
Notice how overpopulation alarmists always say someone else is overpopulation. They never point to themselves and say they are the overpopulation problem. If the world is so overpopulated, why don't the alarmists just commit suicide? Because in the alarmists' minds, their life is meaningful while the lives of slum dwellers is not. And that gets to the heart of the elitism that predominates the overpopulation alarmist movement.
Overpopulation alarmists also don't understand global economics. They don't understand economies of scale or specialization of labor. They think if Earth's population were reduced 80% to 400 million, then it would be the richest, most prosperous people. But by the logic that fewer people=richer people, if you cut the population down to two, would you have two trillionares? No, you'd have two hunter-gatherers, dirt poor, struggling to survive.
What about the finite resources fear? First of all, energy is unlimited and replenishable when considering the Sun's radiation. Then there is the future of fusion energy which will utilize hydrogen and helium, the two most common elements in the universe.
Infinite energy is important because it makes recycling economically feasible and extends the life of existing materials.
Second, global food production has outpaced global population growth for the last 150 years. Famines around the world such as China's Great Leap Forward in 1958-1961 were due to bad human management or distribution, not an absolute lack of food.
sure everything on earth can be used as energy source... just cut wood and you can burn it, you can use modern technology and drill the earth for geothermal energy or create ultra efficient solar powergrid. but at what price ? what consequences ?
so I say its logical to say that there is a limit on how many people that the earth can sustain human being, but i'm not sure how many. maybe 7 billion is max, maybe 70 billion, maybe 700 billion.
but saying that the earth is capable of sustaining unlimited number of human just wrong.
and oversimplifying problem doesn't make it more simple.
surely overpopulation don't have anything to do with problem of wealth distribution... 2000 years ago everyone is poor by today's standard...
just look at how the climate changes and problem of pollution... btw which doesn't even mentioned in the video... i still think that we are a little bit too overpopulated...
but looking at how demographic around the globe is declining... i think we are safe for now... (psst... dont ask me to suicide, ok)
about food...
yes there is many food source that we wastes... thing like rat, cocroach, and whole other plant and insect that we dont eat today... which our anchestor did...
i agree that food is never been a problem... but it will when temperature rises 2 deg. celcius... many will have to try new menu of fore mentioned delicacies.
which back to the problem... do you believe that overpopulation affect earth climate changes ?
or is it just a myth ?
I think you are oversimplifying the problem yourself. It's true that simply cutting down population size would not solve any problems. However, you ignore the fact that there is a definite upper limit to Earth population. We might not have reached that limit yet, but we have definitely reached the point of diminishing returns.
I cannot agree that Overpopulation is a myth, but I certainly agree with those that say that is usually defined in an incorrect manner.
Overpopulation is a relative not an absolute condition and is simply a measure of the ability of a society to support itself. Early 14th Century England/Europe was certainly over populated and that over population was undoubtedly a main driver of the 100 year war, only resolved with the onset of the Black Death. The population levels of these times were however only about 10% of the populations supported by today's society.
What this means is that a Feudal Subsistence Society with limited technology is highly restricted by the availability of inefficiently used fertile land. Land and Farming Improvements may well raise the ceiling, but not enough to significantly raise the population the land can support. It required Urbanisation, Industrialisation and Intensive Agriculture to change the dynamic and it has done so by at least an order of magnitude.
I personally have confidence that the technologies we see making breakthroughs today will allow for similar magnitude order increases over the coming centuries. I think that I can have further confidence in that those countries which embrace these technologies will be the nations that thrive, while those that resist or hesitate will be the ones that do not.
I don't think anyone proposed to cut down any particular segment of population. It's a general observation that you will run into problems if you have too many people. No one ever says anything about eliminating "street sweepers".
I think you are the one who is ignoring the general principles of economics. It's all about supply and demand. When you have more people and supply cannot keep up, demand will be up. price will be high. This is especially true with important stuff like food and energy. This leads to inflation and so on and so forth... What happens when people cannot get what they want? They start wars...
The macroeconomics dictates that the supply-demand curve will simply shift together while the entire economy will maintain its balance and equilibrium when the population shifts since both supply and demand drop together with a population shift. Yes, you have fewer demands, but you also have less capability to produce with lower population. So both supply and demand go together. So the fraction of wealthy vs. poor will not change when you change the population. This is, of course, under the assumption that we still have a decent population base. If we run into a problem of having only 2 people left on the planet, the last thing one worries about would be who is wealthy and who is poor...
Infinite energy is, of course, the goal. However, one cannot simply plan/strategize based on a hope that no one knows when/if it can be realized. In the mean time, we have to form plans and make predictions based on what we have at hands.
Unlimited resource is a myth. How can you say that when it is clear that available land for food and other resources is inversely correlated with population increase? More people, less land, less trees, less water. Just look at the Shaanxi and Shanxi, you will know what I'm talking about. A mere 5-6 centuries ago, that area of China was covered with forests. People cut down trees to build palaces and now it's nothing but yellow dirt. The Mayans had to abandon their homes because of lack of resources. The people on the Easter island went almost extinct because they lost all their resources. If it could happen on a smaller scale, it could happen to the entire planet.
This is wishful thinking at best. Human mistakes get magnified when there is a natural disaster. There was a massive drought in China between 1958-1961 in central China. It was magnified through human mistakes. You cannot rule out natural disasters and same goes with human mistakes. So if our food production is only barely enough to feed the people on this planet, any large scale natural disaster will push it over the limit and push the entire planet into a disaster.
IMHO, there is a population limit. And it is impossible to pass that limit. Either we correct it ourselves, or mother nature will take care of it for us in the form of famine, plague, war, etc.
I agree overpopulation is relative considering certain factors. However the planet is finite, and as such there is an absolute limit to our development, unless we dramatically change the rules by colonizing other planets or artificially creating another earth. No amount of technology can overcome this fact in the foreseeable future. Technology will surely help pushing boundaries, but at some point every new person will demand an infinite increase in resource allocation, at which time it will be practically impossible to increase population or sustain reasonable standards of living. At which point there is overpopulation.
Personally, I'd say overpopulation is a fact as long as resources are not able to replenish or recycle properly (despite all efforts are focused on alleviating the problem)
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Before I wrote my initial entry on this subject I had not been able to watch Players Video. I have of course done so now. Yes it can be described as providing a simplistic response, but given it is responding to a very simplistic argument, I think that is fully forgiveable.
The video largely shared my own opinion that "overpopulation" was a local and conditional phenomenon, most likely to be economic in nature ie that a social system is unable to provide sufficient wealth for all its citizens to be able to afford to eat, rather than there being no food or scope to produce further food for them.
Likewise, while I accept that the resources of the "planet" are finite, I would challenge anyone to define what these finite limits actually are. I would argue that any limit is still orders of magnitude in advance of our current population and still too far over the horizon in terms of quantity or time-scale to be taken as a realistic factor of limitation in human development.
Development beyond the planet are another set of very major factors which I think we will see increasingly active this century, contrary to the current state of stagnation which we have had for nearly the past 40 years.
The critical difference I see in all this is the difference between a billion poor people and a billion affluent people (another point of agreement with the video). You only have to look at the last 30 years in China to appreciate this point. The one Child policy has not been exercised in respect of simple food security, but as a lever to help implement major social and economic change as China transits from an agrarian peasant society to a middle class urban one. The point of the policy has been to dry up the supply of poor rural residents with little or no capital, in favour of a cash rich urbanised ones. Once significant progress has been made do not be surprised to see the policy dropped (no later than 2020) and a post policy population surge, rapidly taking the Chinese population well beyond previous or currently projected figures, without any appreciable impact on notions of food security.
I strongly disagree with this assessment.
First, virtually all of modern China's challenges, from the education system to tainted food scandals to the deteriorating environment, stems from overpopulation. Teenagers spend their entire 3 years of high school preparing for the university entrance exams, simply because there are way more students looking to enter universities than there are universities capable of accepting them. Similarly, huge numbers of university graduates end up with menial jobs because there are way more graduates than there are positions open.
Milk producers lace their milk with melamine because of demand far outstrips supply, and thus there is huge profit to be made from producing "fake food".
The 30 years of economic reforms have taken a tremendous toll on the environment. The Yang-tze river porpoise, the Northern Chinese tiger, and countless other species, are all but extinct. Entire villages have been poisoned by industrial waste flow. When I was young, Shanghai regularly snowed during the winter. Now, it has snowed maybe 2-3 times in the last 20 years. A near permanent smog covers the sky over the city.
You argue that we have not yet reached the limits of the planet's finite resources, yet the inevitability of Climate Change contradicts this view.
Sure, if we manage to discover cold fusion, or a cheap way to create anti-matter, we could enjoy near limitless energy. However, those we don't have those things right now, and there is no telling when we will make these kinds of breakthroughs, if they are even possible. The current crop of renewable energies all have limitations that makes them unable to support our current population and living standards.


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The result of the Brexit referendum on EU membership has no binding force in law. This was the main point made in an open letter to David Cameron signed by 1054 barristers on 9 July 2016. This is undoubtedly correct. But the rest of the letter, and especially the part that proposes "a way forward", reads like a joke.


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Today we pay tribute to a very special actor; he's somebody I knew back in Los Angeles in the 1970s and 1980s: James Garner, born in Norman, Okla., in 1928. He just passed away on July 19, 2014.
He's known as being just what he seemed to be; what you see is what you get with Jim Garner, and that's pretty much the way it was. He was an awful lot like Jim Rockford, except he made a little bit more than "$100 a day, plus expenses."
He's best known on TV as Bret Maverick and Jim Rockford, but he played in a lot of movies, including The Children's Hour with Audrey Hepburn and Shirley MacLaine, and he worked with Doris Day and Melina Mercouri, all the great film stars of the day.
Jim loved a whole lot of things; he loved football and he really loved driving fast cars. He was known as being part of that elite group that included his friends Paul Newman and Steve McQueen when it came to racing cars. In Rockford, he did his own driving stunts; where he first learned those skills or at least honed them was in Europe, when he was working on a John Frankenheimer movie. Not one of his favorites, but it did teach him to drive race cars very fast: Grand Prix.
Today's show includes music from Grand Prix, by Maurice Jarre.
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LOS ANGELES Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, actor Drew Carey and other notables showed up Sunday to cheer on 30,000 people who gathered to walk and raise $2.9 million at the 28th annual AIDS Walk Los Angeles.
Celebrity supporters, elected officials, and notable AIDS activists addressed the massive crowd assembled in and around West Hollywood Park before the walkers set out on the route, according to Gabriel McGowan of AIDS Project Los Angeles.
"The 30,000 participants who took to the streets today can take pride in the incredible $2,912,209 raised to fight AIDS and lift up the lives of those affected by HIV," event founder and producer Craig R. Miller said. "Thanks to thousands of dedicated people who walk and fundraise each year, we have made tremendous progress and we are facing a better day in the fight against AIDS."
The event has raised more than $75 million for AIDS Project Los Angeles and other HIV/AIDS service organizations throughout the county since its inception, but the visibility was compromised this year because of a new advertising policy, McGowan said. The transit line in Santa Monica, Big Blue Bus, banned AIDS Walk Los Angeles' fully paid ads along with all other advertisements and public service messages from charities.
"Only commercial advertising is allowed under the new policy," McGowan said.
Miller blasted the ban by Santa Monica City Hall as injurious to the fight against AIDS and an assault on free speech.
"These bus ads are a key element in raising funds and awareness for AIDS Walk Los Angeles," Miller said. "This censorship can only reduce our capacity to fight the epidemic and will greatly disadvantage all community- driven organizations once served by Big Blue Bus."
AIDS Project Los Angeles representatives joined AIDS Walk Los Angeles organizers at a recent Santa Monica City Council meeting to protest the ban.
Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and West Hollywood Mayor Pro Tempore Abbe Land were featured at the opening ceremony for the event, speaking on the current HIV/AIDS crisis in Los Angeles and West Hollywood and about the importance of the community's response.
Additional elected officials at the event included U.S. House of Representatives members Howard Berman, Adam Schiff and Maxine Waters; Los Angeles City Councilmembers Paul Koretz, Paul Krekorian, Jan Perry and Dennis P. Zine; West Hollywood City Council members John J. Duran and John Heilman; and Los Angeles City Attorney Carmen Trutanich.
Other public figures included actress Sophia Bush of "Partners," television host Daisy Fuentes, and actress Christa B. Allen of "Revenge." There was also a special reunion with cast members from the critically acclaimed tv show "Popular," including Leslie Bibb -- also of "GCB" -- Christopher Gorham, Bryce Johnson, Tamara Mello, and Carly Pope.


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The Leesburg Council approved this week a request to purchase video cameras for Leesburg Police vehicles.
The cameras will cost $16,500 and will be installed in city police cruisers not currently outfitted with them.
It will be funded by Special Purpose Local Option Sales Tax (SPLOST VI) funds.
"The camera system will be utilized for routine patrol, traffic stops," Lieutenant James Vick said. "Basically with this system, it will be a safeguard for the officers as well as the individuals being stopped."
Leesburg Police hope to have these cameras installed by the end of June.


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What happens when you mix a group of music-loving librarians, eight teenage bands and an online social networking site?
You get Battle of the Bands XI: Rockus Maximus. Think Pasco's version of American Idol.
"We thought of American Idol, and we said, 'Why can't we use this format of online voting and watching videos online to benefit the kids here and improve an event we already have?' " said Paul Stonebridge, a librarian at the county's Land O'Lakes branch.
The band competition — in which eight bands perform 25-minute sets before a group of judges — isn't new. But the online aspect is.
Here's how the new format will work:
Hoping to tap into the appeal of social networking sites to get teenagers interested in the library's events, the library staff set up a MySpace Web site for the event: www.myspace.com/pascolibraries. Visitors can watch documentaries taped at Pasco libraries by each of the eight bands.
Eight episodes have appeared each week since Feb. 1. Viewers can see profiles of the bands, who also perform literary skits from classics like Romeo and Juliet and do public service announcements for the library.
The videos also can be viewed at www.youtube.com/pascobob.
Each week, fans can go on MySpace and vote for their favorite band. Only one vote is allowed per person per day.
The eight bands offer a cross section of musical genres, from "death metal easy listening" to "Christian folk rock."
Help from the Internet
When the March 28 competition arrives, the band with the most online votes will receive a $500 gift card to Jam Music in Land O'Lakes, which can be used for lessons or equipment repair.
The winner of the live event, which will be judged by library staff and members of the library's teen advisory board, will receive a three-song recording contract with Rev Music Group, which will book the band's shows for one year.
So far, the MySpace site has been a hit. The page has gotten 5,754 views since Feb. 1, according to library officials. On the YouTube site, library officials had 3,861 views of the videos.
"We're thrilled," Stonebridge said of the staff's success with the new format. "The kids could've said, 'This is stupid.' But they didn't. We've tapped into what they like, need and want."
Library staff say merging two contrasting ideas — the hush-hush quiet of a library with a noisy band concert — draws in young people by helping them see the library is more than just a place where books collect dust.
"It shows kids the library is cool and exciting and relevant to what they want," Stonebridge said. "It gives them something else to try. Then, they start hanging out at the library, and they become a lifelong user. One event leads to taking advantage of others."
The band competition has been a success since it began 11 years ago. At the time, patrons told library staff they wanted more events that catered to teens. So the library's youth advisory board figured a band event would be the perfect fit.
Library staff sent fliers out and contacted area schools in search of local bands. Bands had to have at least three members, be Pasco residents, play two original songs during their set, and play their own instruments.
Friends of the Library paid for the sound systems and lights, and the teen advisory board sold food.
Each year, about 250 people gather at Crews Lake Wilderness Park in Shady Hills to watch the free performances.
Last year, when planning began for this year's event, Stonebridge and Kevin Griffith, adult services coordinator for the library, started brainstorming a new approach.
"We said, 'What can we do to make ourselves not obsolete?' " Griffith said.
Someone suggested using MySpace, so Griffith and Stonebridge coordinated with James Francosky, youth services promoter at the library, to get the ball rolling.
All three have a love for music, and were excited about exploring a new event format. Francosky, who set up the MySpace page, works part time as a radio DJ. Stonebridge used to have an FM radio show. And Griffith is a lifelong music fan.
"It seems weird, but it's also such an obvious thing to do," Griffith said. "We wanted to challenge ourselves. We were thinking, this could be a complete crash and burn. Or, it could be a success."
Griffith is optimistic about the event's success. "If we can do this," he said, "then any small library system with a little budget can do this, too."
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The demonstrators included several undocumented Hispanic immigrants, who said so via megaphone on the courthouse steps as they called the Alabama law an injustice to immigrants living in the state.
The U.S. 11th Circuit Court of Appeals today ordered a lower court to block enforcement of a section of Alabama's immigration law that required schools to collect data about the immigration status of students. The court ruled that section violated the Equal Protection Clause of the U.S. Constitution.
Protestors from Phoenix, Ariz., brought a tour bus through Tuscaloosa as part of their "No Papers, No Fear" initiative, an effort to fight for immigrants' rights from state to state. The tour was in Memphis, Tenn., prior to today's event. They met with Somos Tuskaloosa, a local group also on hand to protest.
The courthouse protest started around 4 p.m., as the protestors moved toward the steps before Tuscaloosa Police officers arrived and ordered them to vacate since they did not have a permit to demonstrate in the area.
Angel Alvarez, from Phoenix, said he thinks progress has been made in that the group's message continues to spread and other undocumented immigrants are stepping forward to express they no longer fear what might happen.
"It's been a great experience sharing with other communities and learning about the states' laws," Alvarez said. "It's been great having that communication with them and having them stand up and fight against it."
Tuscaloosa resident Carl Clements stood in support of the immigrants, saying Alabama's law is based on a "crazy notion" that Hispanics are taking jobs from people or that they're disproportionately criminal, which he says they are not.
The protest, comprised of at least 100 people, then moved down University Boulevard. Alvarez said he does not yet know where the tour will go next.


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JOHN McENROE has urged Andy Murray to take a complete break from tennis because he reckons the Scot is mentally exhausted after winning Wimbledon.
The seven-times Grand Slam champion believes a decade spent striving to become the first male champion at SW19 since Fred Perry in 1936 has taken its toll.
Murray has suffered a major form slump in the wake of his Centre Court triumph over Novak Djokovic, culminating in his exit from the US Open on Thursday night.
The British No.1 was thrashed 6-4 6-3 6-2 by an inspired Stanislas Wawrinka in the quarter-finals at Flushing Meadows, ending his defence of the crown he won so spectacularly 12 months earlier.
Murray looked subdued throughout the tournament and McEnroe believes his historic successes and lack of a proper holiday over the past year left him running on empty in New York.
McEnroe said: "I'm surprised he went out but Stan has been looking confident. I've seen him in the locker room and he looks to have something different about him.
"But Andy was on such a high that inevitably you come down. After all those years trying to win Wimbledon it was inevitable there would be a letdown.
"The question was how much? It is not easy to turn it on again pretty quickly.
"He has been pretty flat for the whole summer. I think it is just a mental thing and he is a little weary after all the effort.
"I would still look at it as an incredible year for him as he has done something for the first time in 77 years.
"It is amazing and that high is so high you can't grasp how big an achievement it was.
"However, he didn't have that much time off when he could sit back and enjoy it, and he was almost straight back into training."
Murray only had a five-day holiday in the wake of Wimbledon before he was back at his Miami base to prepare for the US Open.
McEnroe, who knows how much mental effort it requires to win majors, insists Murray needs at least four weeks of rest to recharge his batteries before the ATP Tour Finals in London at the end of the year and the Australian Open in January.
He said: "Andy is going to decide but I would take a month off.
"He had it a lot tougher than I did and there was a lot more pressure.
"I felt like I was dealing with a lot of pressure when I played Wimbledon, some of it self-inflicted, but it was a lot more so for Andy.
"He has been through a lot over the past 10 years and should take a break.
"He should take some time off and try to finish strong in London at the Tour Finals.
"Then he can start to get ready for the Australian Open.
"I certainly wouldn't be too concerned about the next few months if I were him.
"He has looked a little mentally weary to me. I'm not around him enough to know that for sure but I wasn't surprised he struggled in Cincinnati and Montreal in the build-up to New York.
"He is normally tougher to beat in longer matches but Stan played a great game and it looked as if it was getting to him.
"There are a lot of things that can get to you out there and I should know."
Murray's Everest may have been conquered back in July but McEnroe is confident there will be many more peaks in the world No.3's career despite the setback in the Big Apple.
Prior to Flushing Meadows the Scot had reached the final of the last four Grand Slams he contested, winning two of them.
And as a multiple major winner himself, McEnroe knows how expectation levels soar when you become successful.
He said: "The more you win the more people expect you to win.
"But you have to keep a realistic assessment of what has happened.
"The fires are burning for Murray. There are four slams a year and you just don't win them all the time.
"I played in over 100 of them and only won seven. It's not like I was winning them all the time.
"He is different because his trend is more like his coach, Ivan Lendl, in that he is winning them a bit later in his career.
"The key for him is just trying to chip away and one a year would be amazing.
"Ivan has done a great job as he has already helped him win two slams.
"They will go back to the drawing board because the top guys are always figuring out ways to get one or two per cent better.
"If you are able to do that then great things will happen."
Murray's former coach Darren Cahill, now ESPN's main tennis analyst, also reckons his old charge will bounce back from this latest setback once he has had a rest.
Cahill said: "All his life he's been chasing the Wimbledon title and to live a day in his shoes and to understand the pressure he is under is a difficult thing to do.
"To accomplish that and then get straight back up for the next challenge is tough. Time is his best friend at the moment.
"He can reset his mind and his body and set some new challenges. He will come back even stronger.
"Now it's about the challenges in front of him.
"The Davis Cup is next so he needs to go in focused and make sure he's around a bunch of team-mates who are supporting him.
"Dan Evans in the last few weeks has been fantastic and Andy will enjoy being in a team atmosphere.
"After that his own team can look at what is best to do.
"The slams are over for this year now but he's had an incredible year and should be proud."


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Chrysler Vans Recalled in North America
Chrysler Group, LLC is recalling an estimate 9,655 full size vans in the United States, due to the accelerator pedal getting stuck.
About the Chrysler Van Recall
According to Reuters, the accelerator pedal of the Chrysler vans is getting stuck in the wide open position, potentially increasing the risk of accident.
Chrysler released a statement and noted that every Chrysler vehicle is equipped with a brake throttle override system that allows drivers to stop moving by applying the brake pedal to override any co-occurring accelerator input.
The issue was discovered at a company test track, and Chrysler did share their findings with Fiat; because of similarities between Fiat's ProMaster and the Ducato van.
Chrysler Van Recall Information
- Of the affected vans, an estimated 7,935 are in the United States, 1,432 are in Canada, and 283 are in Mexico.
- About half of the affected 2014 Ram ProMaster vans are still on dealer lots and cannot be sold until they are repaired.
- Eric Mayne, Chrysler's spokesperson said that the affected parts were already scheduled for replacement to improve the driving experience before the issue was discovered.
- Owners will be notified of the recall.
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Reference
The National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act that was enacted in 1966 gave the NHTSA authority to issue vehicle safety standards and required manufactures to recall vehicles that have safety related defects, like the sticking of an accelerator pedal.
Since then more than 390 million cars, trucks, buses, recreational vehicles, motorcycles, and mopeds have been recalled to correct safety defects.
An estimated 7,200 people have died in motor vehicles traffic crashes in 2013, 4.4%less than in 2012.
The fatality rate for the first 3 months of 2013 have decreased to 1.04 fatalities per 100 million vehicle miles traveled down from the 1.08 fatalities per 100 million vehicles miles traveled in the first quarter of 2012 and is projected to steadily decrease into 2014.
Accelerator pedals sticking or breaking are safety related issues. If you think your vehicle may have a safety defect, report it to the NHTSA.
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Yeung gets Premier League approval
Carson Yeung's takeover of Birmingham City moved a step closer to completion on Friday after the Premier League approved his appointment as a director of the Midlands club.
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The Hong Kong businessman, along with associate Vico Hui Ho Luek, passed the organisation's 'fit and proper person test' and his bid to take control of the Blues can now proceed.
Earlier this week Yeung's company Grandtop International Holdings increased their share capital in the club to 81.7% with a view to the deal being finalised in early October.
A statement from Grandtop to the Stock Exchange read: "The Premier League has confirmed to Grandtop that it has no objection to Grandtop increasing its stake in Birmingham City PLC to over 30%.
"The Premier League has also confirmed that Carson Yeung Ka Sing and Vico Hui Ho Luek qualify for appointment as directors of Birmingham City FC and that their appointment as directors of the club may, so far as the Premier League is concerned, proceed."
Yeung failed with an attempted to takeover Birmingham in 2007 when he failed to deliver the money for the takeover by the deadline of November 30.
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