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Bumi shareholders have voted against a plan by co-founder Nathaniel Rothschild to replace directors including chief executive Nick Von Schirnding and chairman Samin Tan.
Mr Rothschild, scion of a centuries-old banking dynasty, had asked investors to back his proposals to oust board members, saying they'd failed investors. Shareholders also rejected his proposal to take a board seat himself.
The 41-year-old financier has been locked in a battle for control of Bumi with Indonesia's Bakrie family, with whom he founded the company in 2010 in a $US3 billion deal that bundled Indonesian coal assets.
Bumi plunged 69 per cent in London trading last year amid boardroom infighting and financial probes in the UK and Indonesia. Both Rothschild and the Bakries are seeking to unwind their collaboration and the board is also pursuing a separation from the Bakries.
Liberum Capital said before the vote that a rejection of Rothchild's plan to oust directors would make it easier to split Bumi from its Indonesian unit PT Bumi Resources and help the share price.
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Good growth expected in SA's business events sector
Even in world regions characterised by low or no economic growth, we can still look forward to a period of moderate expansion in meetings, events and business travel. In those world regions with fast-expanding economies, such as ours, much greater growth can be expected. – Tourism Minister Marthinus van Schalkwyk
This was the message from Tourism Minister Marthinus van Schalkwyk during his keynote address at the Southern African Association for the Conference Industry (SAACI) congress held at the Boardwalk Convention Centre in Port Elizabeth from 28 to 30 July 2013.
'Even in world regions characterised by low or no economic growth, we can still look forward to a period of moderate expansion in meetings, events and business travel. Most indicators point to at least a modest increase in demand and prices in 2013, while in those world regions with fast-expanding economies, such as ours, much greater growth can be expected,' he said.
He said Africa is at the forefront of global growth, with seven of the world's fastest-growing economies in Africa.
According to statistics from the International Congress and Convention Association (ICCA), 304 association meetings were held on the African continent in 2012, just 2.7% of 11 156 international meetings held globally in 2012. Of these, South Africa hosted 97 association meetings, followed by Kenya with 29, and Morocco with 23. South Africa is currently ranked 37th by the ICCA on its list of worldwide country rankings.
In her opening remarks, Nina Freysen-Pretorius, SAACI national chair, called on South Africa's business events industry to improve the country's ICCA worldwide ranking and its professionalism.
'It is incumbent upon all SAACI members to work towards attracting more international association conferences to our wonderful country. It is just as important that the services levels provided by all suppliers meet the delegate expectations, that we raise the bar in terms of our service delivery, and that South Africa remains a value-for-money destination,' she said.
She also called on business events service providers to become SAACI accredited, and for accommodation establishments and conference venues to become star graded through the Tourism Grading Council of South Africa.
'The importance of tourism grading is that you then have properties that are of comparable standard, so that clients know what product they're going to get. This is vitally important for the growth of the industry. Accreditation is also vital for the industry to self-regulate and so we know what service providers can actually deliver,' she said.
Freysen-Pretorius also commented on the issue of subvention funding: 'Gone are the days when subvention funding was considered a "nice to have". Today, clients' RFPs are asking what subvention support a country, city, venue, organisation or association will give, and this is having a direct impact on their decision-making.'
South Africa's National Convention Bureau (NCB) has so far secured 88 major bids for the next four years. Jointly, these bids will inject about R2.6-billion into the tourism economy and bring an estimated 200 000 delegates to the country. The biggest bid won thus far is the 21st International AIDS Conference to be held in Durban in 2016.
The NCB launched its new business events tourism campaign, 'Rise with Us', at SAACI 2013, which is aimed at attracting more business events to South Africa. According to Van Schalkwyk, 'Through the campaign, we are asking the world to "Rise with Us" because South Africa offers value for money, is economically and politically stable, has a proven track record, and is a safe and secure destination.'
Delegates at the conference also heard from Dirk Elzinga, MD at CIC Convention Industry Consultants, who spoke of new convention centres being built or being considered in other African countries – a new convention centre has been built in Lilongwe, Malawi, while one is being considered in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.
Freysen-Pretorius said it is an opportunity for those countries to attract business, create jobs and uplift Africa. 'With Africa's growing economies, international associations are now looking to the continent to grow their membership bases,' she said.
Alec Gilbert, CEO of Australia's Adelaide Convention Centre, told delegates the fact that South Africa is a long-haul destination should not be seen as a barrier to hosting business events. He said Australia has been very successful in attracting international business events despite being a longer-haul destination than South Africa. He added that South Africa could take advantage of opportunities to attract business events from Europe, being on a similar time zone.
James Rees, executive director: conferences and events at ExCeL London, speaking about the London Olympics, highlighted the importance of having a team made up of both private- and public-sector stakeholders to attract major events.


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THE activity du jour was American Football at Wharf Green yesterday as part of inSwindon's answer to the Commonwealth Games.
After a golf session, roller derby taster, rugby demonstration and day-long basketball workshop, youngsters and adults were invited to learn the ins and outs of football Yankee style in the town centre.
Clad in shoulder pads and sheltered under protective helmets, children as young as six became honorary quarterbacks and linebackers, trying different plays under supervision from Swindon Storm American Football Club and mostly kicking the ball as hard as they could towards imaginary goalposts.
The 'try-outs' were the perfect way for children and grown-ups not only to discover a new sport and expand their horizons but to keep active while having fun.
"We are trying to break down the barriers for kids to get into sport," said club founder Steve Bennett. "American Football is one of the fastest growing sports in the UK and it's the fastest growing sport in universities.
"People have been really enjoying it here. The children love the shiny helmets and shoulder pads. It's totally unlike anything they've done before. We have been teaching people the three or four basic skills and they are having a go at them.
"It's a really strong team-bonding sport."
The session was an eye-opener for 15-year-old Tom Dean, who was able to test his strength and speed on the small field set up below the Wharf Green screen.
"I have played American Football in my garden before but that's it," said the teenager from Calne. "I've always been interested but I didn't know there were clubs. It's been a really good taster."
Thomas Viddler, chairman of the Multi-Sports Club based at Dorcan, also gave it a try from his wheelchair.
"It's very good to let people and children have a go at different sports, whether they are in a wheelchair or not," he said. "Anybody can do sports and disabilities shouldn't stop people from getting involved. It keeps you active and healthy."
The American Football workshop followed on from busy basketball, wheelchair basketball and rugby sessions over the weekend.
inSwindon chose to hold tasters as well as show live coverage from the Commonwealth Games on the big screen on the back of a similar sports bonanza to mark the Olympics.
"It's a great opportunity to get the message out there about how important doing sports and having a healthy lifestyle is," said organiser Kirsty Heber-Smith. "It's also the perfect opportunity to get that community feel and for people to come and do something different."


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ASUS P9X79-E WS Review: Xeon meets PLX for 7xby Ian Cutress on 1/10/2014 10:00 AM EST
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dstarr3 - Friday, January 10, 2014 - link"If a user needs to run seven RAID cards should not be a problem here."
Is that strictly true without any onboard video? Reply
Ian Cutress - Friday, January 10, 2014 - linkRun it headless with desktop remote or Teamviewer over a network. Reply
nightbringer57 - Friday, January 10, 2014 - linkOr a USB video adapter. Reply
JlHADJOE - Friday, January 10, 2014 - linkCan you overclock a Xeon on it? Reply
dgingeri - Friday, January 10, 2014 - linkyes/no. You can control the turbo frequencies on a Xeon though a motherboard, and make it goe full turbo no matter the load, but not go beyond the multiplier range of the chip. So, you could potentially make an E5-2687w v2 go 4GHz on all 8 cores, but not any faster than that. With an E5-2603, you'd still be stuck at 1.8GHz Reply
Hale_Kyou - Monday, March 03, 2014 - linkNo! You can't! ASUS says NO. There's not proof in the internet, no screenshot telling it is possible. The only time Xeon was overclocked is in Intel's demo with a test chip. Reply
Hale_Kyou - Monday, March 03, 2014 - linkI.e. neither overclock, nor all-core full turbo. Full 4GHz is not possible. Reply
Ian Cutress - Friday, January 10, 2014 - linkThe problem is the CPUs, not the motherboard. In this server space, all the Xeons are locked - you can play around with BCLK at best, although do not expect much headroom. Even the CPU straps (1.00x, 1.25x, 1.66x) are locked down. It's an Intel issue - they do not want to sell unlocked Xeons any more. That being said, a picture was shared on twitter a few months ago by an Intel engineer trying to gauge interest in unlocked Xeons - whether that comes with or without warranty we will have to see, but I wouldn't get any hopes up just yet. Reply
jasonelmore - Friday, January 10, 2014 - linkIf i wanted to make a uber machine for the whole family and VM everything to their respective rooms, how would i do this in a "true headless" fashion? ie: no computer required in their room, just a screen and somehow beam video wirelessly to a monitor
Any solutions exist? Reply
extide - Friday, January 10, 2014 - linkYou are talking about a VDi infrastructure, and you do need some sort of very basic pc at each terminal to run the remote desktop connection. Probably not really a great idea for home use, as things like 3d and video do not work very well in that scenario. Reply
pewterrock - Friday, January 10, 2014 - linkIntel Widi-capable network card (http://intel.ly/1iY9cjx) or if on Windows 8.1 use Miracast (http://bit.ly/1ktIfpq). Either will work with this receiver (http://amzn.to/1lJjrYS) at the TV or monitor. Reply
dgingeri - Friday, January 10, 2014 - linkWiDi would only work for one user at a time. It would have to be a Virtual Desktop type thing like extide mentions, but, as he said, that doesn't work too well for home user activities. Although, it could be with thin-clients: one of these for each user http://www.amazon.com/HP-Smart-Client-T5565z-1-00G... Reply
eanazag - Wednesday, January 15, 2014 - linkYes and no. Virtual Desktops exist and can be done. Gaming is kind of a weak and expensive option. You can allocate graphics cards to VMs, but latency for screen are not going to be optimal for the money. Cheaper and better to go individual systems. If you're just watchnig youtube and converting video it wouldn't be a bad option and can be done reasonably. Check out nVidia's game streaming servers. It exists. The Grid GPUs are pushing in the thousands of dollars, but you would only need one. Supermicro has some systems that, I believe, fall into that category. VMware and Xenserver/Xendesktop can share the video cards as the hypervisors. Windows server with RemoteFX may work better. I haven't tried that. Reply
extide - Friday, January 10, 2014 - linkNote: At the beginning of the article you mention 5 year warranty but at the end you mention 3 years. Which is it? Reply
Ian Cutress - Friday, January 10, 2014 - linkThanks for pointing the error. I initially thought I had read it as five but it is three. Reply
Li_Thium - Friday, January 10, 2014 - linkAt last...triple SLI with space between from ASUS.
Plus one and only SLI bridge: ASRock 3way 2S2S. Reply
artemisgoldfish - Friday, January 10, 2014 - linkI'd like to see how this board compares against an x16/x16/x8 board with 3 290Xs (if thermal issues didn't prevent this). Since they communicate from card to card through PCIe rather than a Crossfire bridge, a card in PCIe 5 communicating with a card in PCIe 1 would have to traverse the root complex and 2 switches. Wonder what the performance penalty would be like. Reply
mapesdhs - Friday, January 10, 2014 - link
I have the older P9X79 WS board, very nice BIOS to work with, easy to setup a good oc,
currently have a 3930K @ 4.7. I see your NV tests had two 580s; aww, only two? Mine
has four. :D (though this is more for exploring CUDA issues with AE rather than gaming)
See: http://valid.canardpc.com/zk69q8
The main thing I'd like to know is if the Marvell controller is any good, because so far
every Marvell controller I've tested has been pretty awful, including the one on the older
WS board. And how does the ASMedia controller compare? Come to think of it, does
Intel sell any kind of simple SATA RAID PCIe card which just has its own controller so
one can add a bunch of 6gbit ports that work properly?
Should anyone contemplate using this newer WS, here are some build hints: fans on the
chipset heatsinks are essential; it helps a lot with GPU swapping to have a water cooler
(I recommend the Corsair H110 if your case can take it, though I'm using an H80 since
I only have a HAF 932 with the PSU at the top); take note of what case you choose if you
want to have a 2/3-slot GPU in the lowest slot (if so, the PSU needs space such as there
is in an Aerocool X-Predator, or put the PSU at the top as I've done with my HAF 932);
and if multiple GPUs are pumping out heat then remove the drive cage & reverse the front
fan to be an exhaust.
Also, the CPU socket is very close to the top PCIe slot, so if you do use an air cooler,
note that larger units may press right up against the back of the top-slot GPU (a Phanteks
will do this, the cooler I originally had before switching to an H80).
I can mention a few other things if anyone's interested, plus some picture build links. All
the same stuff would apply to the newer E version. Ah, an important point: if one upgrades
the BIOS on this board, all oc profiles will be erased, so make sure you've either used the
screenshot function to make a record of your oc settings, or written them down manually.
Btw Ian, something you missed which I think is worth mentioning: compared to the older
WS, ASUS have moved the 2-digit debug LED to the right side edge of the PCB. I suspect
they did this because, as I discovered, with four GPUs installed one cannot see the debug
display at all, which is rather annoying. Glad they've moved it, but a pity it wasn't on the
right side edge to begin with.
Hmm, one other question Ian, do you know if it's possible to use any of the lower slots
as the primary display GPU slot with the E version? (presumably one of the blue slots)
I tried this with the older board but it didn't work.
PS. Are you sure your 580 isn't being hampered in any of the tests by its meagre 1.5GB RAM?
I sourced only 3GB 580s for my build (four MSI Lightning Xtremes, 832MHz stock, though they
oc like crazy). Reply
Ian Cutress - Saturday, January 11, 2014 - linkDual GTX 580s is all I got! We don't all work in one big office at AnandTech, as we are dotted around the world. It is hard to source four GPUs of exactly the same type without laying down some personal cash in the process. That being said, for my new 2014 benchmark suite starting soon, I have three GTX 770 Lightnings which will feature in the testing.
On the couple of points:
Marvell Controller: ASUS use this to enable SSD Caching, other controllers do not do it. That is perhaps at the expense of speed, although I do not have appropriate hardware (i.e. two drives in RAID 0 suitable of breaking SATA 6 Gbps) connected via SATA. Perhaps if I had something like an ACARD ANS-9010 that would be good, but sourcing one would be difficult, as well as being expensive.
Close proximity to first PCIe: This happens with all motherboards that use the first slot as a PCIe device, hence the change in mainstream boards to now make that top slot a PCIe x1 or nothing at all.
OC Profiles being erased: Again, this is standard. You're flashing the whole BIOS, OC Profiles included.
2-Digit Debug: The RIVE had this as well - basically any board where ASUS believes that users will use 4 cards has it moved there. You also need an E-ATX layout or it becomes an issue with routing (at least more difficult to trace on the PCB).
Lower slots for GPUs: I would assume so, but I am not 100%. I cannot see any reason why not, but I have not tested it. If I get a chance to put the motherboard back on the test bed (never always easy with a backlog of boards waiting to be tested) I will attempt.
GPU Memory: Perhaps. I work with what I have at the time ;) That should be less of an issue for 2014 testing.
-Ian Reply
mapesdhs - Saturday, January 11, 2014 - link
Ian Cutress writes:
> ... It is hard to source four GPUs of exactly the same type without
> laying down some personal cash in the process. ...
True, it took a while and some moolah to get the cards for my system,
all off eBay of course (eg. item 161179653299).
> ... I have three GTX 770 Lightnings which will feature in the testing.
Sounds good!
> Marvell Controller: ASUS use this to enable SSD Caching, other controllers do not do it.
So far I've found it's more useful for providing RAID1 with mechanical drives.
A while ago I built an AE system using the older WS board; 3930K @ 4.7, 64GB @ 2133,
two Samsung 830s on the Intel 6gbit ports (C-drive and AE cache), two Enterprise SATA
2TB on the Marvell in RAID1 for long term data storage. GPUs were a Quadro 4000 and
three GTX 580 3GB for CUDA.
> (i.e. two drives in RAID 0 suitable of breaking SATA 6 Gbps) ...
I tested an HP branded LSI card with 512MB cache, behaved much as expected:
2GB/sec for accesses that can exploit the cache, less than that when the drives
have to be read/written, scaling pretty much based on the no. of drives.
> Close proximity to first PCIe: This happens with all motherboards that use the first
> slot as a PCIe device, hence the change in mainstream boards to now make that top slot
> a PCIe x1 or nothing at all.
It certainly helps with HS spacing on an M4E.
> OC Profiles being erased: Again, this is standard. You're flashing the whole BIOS, OC
> Profiles included.
Pity they can't find a way to preserve the profiles though, or at the very least
include a warning when about to flash that the oc profiles are going to be wiped.
> 2-Digit Debug: The RIVE had this as well - basically any board where ASUS believes
> that users will use 4 cards has it moved there. ...
Which is why it's a bit surprising that the older P9X79 WS doesn't have it on the edge.
> Lower slots for GPUs: I would assume so, but I am not 100%. I cannot see any reason
> why not, but I have not tested it. If I get a chance to put the motherboard back on
> the test bed (never always easy with a backlog of boards waiting to be tested) I will
> attempt.
Ach I wouldn't worry about it too much. It was a more interesting idea with the older
WS because the slot spacing meant being able to fit a 1-slot Quadro in a lower slot
would give a more efficient slot usage for 2-slot CUDA cards & RAID cards.
> GPU Memory: Perhaps. I work with what I have at the time ;) That should be less of an
> issue for 2014 testing.
I asked because of my experiences of playing Crysis2 at max settings just at 1920x1200
on two 1GB cards SLI (switching to 3GB cards made a nice difference). Couldn't help
wondering if Metro, etc., at 1440p would exceed 1.5GB.
Ian. Reply
Hammerfist - Friday, January 10, 2014 - linkWhat are the effects of PLX chip when using two or more R9 290 in crossfire ?
We know that when doing AFR , R9 290 and R9 290X uses the PCIe lanes to move the frame around from on GPU to another .
A frame time testing with two GPUs in different lanes will be very interesting .
PCIe 1 - PCIe 2 -> Goes through the PLX chip and QS
PCIe 2 - PCIe 3 -> Goes through QS only
PCIe 1 - PCIe 5 -> Goes through both PLX chips
PCIe 2 - PCIe 6 -> Goes through both PLX and QS chips
and possibly more combinations.
I am not saying that all possible combinations need to be tested , just two combinations to give us and idea of the latency involved is good enough like
1) PCIe1 - PCIe3 (only PLX)
2) PCIe2 - PCIe6 (both PLX and QS) Reply
Ian Cutress - Saturday, January 11, 2014 - linkI did some PLX testing on various Z87 motherboards that use one of the chips, and the overall defecit over ideal routing was a 1-2% loss per PLX chip in the worst case scenario. This is better than the old NF200s, which had up to a 5-10% loss iirc? Of course with X79 it's a little different in that the CPU could go for an x16/x8/x8/x8 layout and whether going for an x16/x16/x16/x16 would make a difference. While I don't have 290 cards to hand, I do have 7970s and now GTX 770s to do a small comparison in the future. Reply
watersb - Saturday, January 11, 2014 - linkIan, thanks very much for this review.
I am not a gamer, but my science and storage workloads are well met by Xeon workstations. The build-your-own route can make financial sense sometimes, depends on the job.
Glad you are there checking it all out. Reply
mapesdhs - Saturday, January 11, 2014 - linkThe main benefit of a DIY oc build is gaining access to the performance equivalent to an
expensive high-core XEON on a lower budget. XEONs with lots of cores have much lower
clocks, so a 6-core SB-E or IB-E at 4.7+ runs very well. There are tradeoffs of course,
such as non-ECC RAM being used; this might rule out the idea for some tasks. Still, there's
a lot of scope for building something fast without breaking the bank. If one needs a degree
of reliability though then I guess just step back a step or two on the oc, say 4.5GHz, and/or
go for top-end cooling by default such as an H110 + suitable case.
Ian. Reply
Pooyan - Saturday, January 11, 2014 - linkGreat article, Ian. Although I wish you focused more on workstation aspects of the motherboard, not gamin and stuff :D
1. Do you know any motherboards from other manufacturers with similar specs?
2. ASUS says it's a CEB motherboard. So the case has to be CEB as well? Or can it be E-ATX? Isn't that kinda small for it?
Thanks again for the review. Reply
mapesdhs - Saturday, January 11, 2014 - linkThe only other board I could find that came close in overall concept to ASUS' X79 WS
series is Asrock's X79 Extreme 11. However, apart from being quite a bit more expensive,
in the end I felt Asrock messed up a bit by not using a SAS controller with any onboard
cache, which can spoil 4K performance. Given the board cost, I can't imagine why the
didn't choose an equivalent LSI chip that had a 1GB cache or something, would have
been much better. Maybe the added cost was just too much.
Can't remember offhand about CEB vs. EATX; I think CEB means the board can be
deeper aswell as longer. Either way, fits fine in a HAF 932, though the case I'd
recommend atm is an Aercool X-Predator. Caveat: if one has to move a system
around a lot, eg. transport to company sites, then choose a different case that has
handles. Either way, for max expandability, use a 10-slot case.
Ian. Reply
Pooyan - Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - linkI thought it only fits in a CEB case. That's why I was gonna get a Silverstone RV03, because that's the only CEB I could find. This is a great help for me. It means I have other options for the case. Thanks a lot! Reply
mapesdhs - Tuesday, June 07, 2016 - linkAn old thread I know, but a minor update for anyone who finds this for some reason as I recently built an editing setup with a P9X79-E WS I managed to get for only 200 quid (fitted with an i7 3970X, Quadro 6000, GTX 580 3GB, etc.): now I'm using a Corsair C70 Military Green case, definitely better. More rear slots than the HAF 932, though I'm only using two NDS fans with the H110 (decided after several builds that four is unnecessary). The C70 has fewer front 5.25" bays than the 932, but using more SSDs, etc. has meant that's not an issue.
Hoping to see if it's possible to boot from a 950 Pro soon...
Ian. Reply
Umbongo - Saturday, January 11, 2014 - link"Being a Workstation board, the P9X79-E WS is designed to accept any socket 2011 Xeon, as well as ECC memory – up to 64GB is listed on the specification sheet, although 16GB ECC DRAM modules are now available through Newegg for $210 each."
The X79 chipset supports unbuffered ECC with a Xeon. 16GB DIMMs are not available as ECC unbuffered, only ECC registered. You need a C600 series chipset with a Xeon to use registered memory. Reply
Ian Cutress - Saturday, January 11, 2014 - linkAh, I thought I had seen 16GB unregistered memory. Seems like I was mistaken (!) Reply
g00ey - Saturday, January 11, 2014 - linkWhen I looked at the user reviews on Newegg and forums, I saw that there are a lot of issues with this motherboard. So I went with the P9X79 WS motherboard instead that have less negative reviews.
Perhaps there are a few issues with these PLX chips that needs to be addressed before it becomes stable... Reply
Ian Cutress - Saturday, January 11, 2014 - linkI saw some of those reviews, mainly being linked to upgrading to Ivy-E, or buying one when they first come out and then upgrading to the CAP BIOS system. My review sample (as the ones on sale should be) was already in CAP, so I just put in the latest BIOS and it worked fine. The PLX chips are tried and tested in many other boards, so no issues there on the chip itself. Reply
g00ey - Saturday, January 11, 2014 - linkA motherboard that refuses to post because of a too modern CPU makes things very hard if you don't happen to have an "old" LGA2011 CPU lying around, and most people don't.
But the PLX chips tend to give me the heebie jeebies when considering virtualized configurations that use PCI passthrough (IOMMU through Intel VT-d). It is a 'workstation grade' motherboard after all so such usage scenarios should be considered. It would be interesting to know how PLX switch chips affect the PCI passthrough capabilities.
Otherwise, a motherboard with 7 full-lane PCIe slots is really attractive but I guess a dual CPU motherboard is needed for that. Reply
Ian Cutress - Saturday, January 11, 2014 - linkThis is why these motherboards support USB BIOS Flashback: the ability to flash a BIOS onto the motherboard without a CPU, DRAM or a VGA installed. It requires renaming the BIOS file, putting it onto a suitable memory stick and following ASUS' instructions. I've used it a couple of times before, and as long as you follow the instructions it is ok: people get frustrated when it doesn't seem to work and there is no feedback (file misnamed, USB not suitable, BIOS not copied properly, BIOS still in old mode requires old BIOS not CAP BIOS). Reply
mazzy80 - Sunday, January 12, 2014 - linkHi,
I find the benches useless on Mobo review, all the Mobo perform the same of course +-1/2%, so nobody cares.
in this case the only useful Bench is to measure the impact of PLX of graphic performance in games. it's look like a minimal impact and this it' good, but you can see that x16@PCE3 Vs x8@PCIE3 is at moment of no use.
IMHO the Mobo review should be around stability, quirks, measuring features performance.
in this case :
performances of Marvel 930 and Asmedia SATA3 controllers Vs intel.
Performance of ASmedia USB3 Vs Intel z87.
Stability with 64GB RAM and 3-SLI.
I've this board for few days with E5-1650v2.
I don't like :
You can't run the cpu at Stock Intel Spec. If you enable the Turbo, you get all the core always at the turbo speed with Vcore ramp up. this is no good for a WS board. Why ? there's no option to disable Multicore option.
Fewer Sensor voltages to monitor that board at this price level.
The IB-E support isn't that great still. The default voltage are not correct for CPU PLL (1.8 instead 1.7) VTTIO (1.05 vs 1.00)
there's no way to respect Intel VID of the CPU, there're the manual fixed or the ASUS adaptive.
64GB rock solid at Intel Specs for VSSA (0.95V)
Stable so far. Reply
mapesdhs - Sunday, January 12, 2014 - link
If you want to run everything at their baseline defaults, I don't see the relevance
of a board like this in the first place. The whole point of this WS board is that it
pairs the oc'ing features of the ROG series with the kind of workstation features
normally found on pro boards. It's an excellent middleground. You'd really want
to run 64GB at minimal speed, etc.? I have 64GB @ 2133 just fine. Plus, in
reality the various voltages you refer to vary from one chip to another wrt their
ideal baseline values; there are no absolutes.
If you want to run stuff at 'stock intel spec', then buy a boring ordinary XEON board,
not one like this which is intended to allow one to do sooo much more.
Ian. Reply
mazzy80 - Monday, January 13, 2014 - linkwell I dont' agree.
I'd have prefer the options to run all at the specs and the options to 'switch' the gear with overclock. this is not a RIVE dressed in WS... and it'd not to be.
If you want to overclock to the hell the ROG extreme lines is for you.
If you want a stable classic workstation Mobo, with a Xeon, with the option to tweak it, if you wish, well this is what I think the WS lines should be, not a hybrid.
it lacks additional power for CPU for example... only one ordinary 8-pin and nothing else. I find it strange.
even Z87 boards have additional power input, and the Haswell top at 89W TDP from the start... E5-2687Wv2 is a 150W part at 3.4Ghz.... turbo @4GHz is over 200W..
If you buy a I7 why select this board ? there's the Deluxe for you, 2-3SLI to gamming ? RIVE/MF is for you.
This board is for Xeon, ECC memory first, so why force the cpu to run overclocked on stock settings? Reply
mapesdhs - Wednesday, January 15, 2014 - link
The ROG boards are for gamers. I didn't buy one for gaming, so your logic is flawed
from the outset. I built a system for AE and wanted RAID card compatibility, among
other things. Plus, the only ROG board I felt was any good was a lot more expensive.
Whatever you might think the WS should be doesn't matter. It is what it is, a blend of
workstation and top-end gamer board features, the best of both IMO. I don't understand
your concerns; afterall, you don't *have* to oc on _any_ board. Leave everything at their
defaults and it'll be fine as-is. Me, I wanted 64GB RAM @ 2133 and a 6-core @ 4.7+,
with the ability to run four GPUs for CUDA, and RAID card support. The WS is perfect
for this. As for the CPU power issue, I don't see it as even being an issue. Where's your
evidence the WS in any way suffers from not having an extra power connector? The WS
will handle a 3930K @ 5.0 no problem.
Basically, your assumptions are wrong, and thus your conclusions are wrong. The Deluxe
was definitely not for me. The WS supports XEONs just as it supports i7s; saying it's "for"
one chip type or the other doesn't make sense.
For those who _are_ looking for a gaming board though then you do have a point, except
that the PCIe structure is better on the WS-E IMO.
PS. And btw, how many CPU-Z submissions have you seen which have a ROG board
with a 3930K @ 4.7+ and max RAM at 2133+ with four GPUs? I've never seen one.
What I wanted to build is in a different league to gaming setups. Games tax just parts
of a system and often not much at that; AE hammers everything at times, gobbling 40GB
RAM no problem, hence the SSD for cache, etc. Reply
viper131 - Sunday, January 12, 2014 - linkQuestion on the Dr. Power feature. Does this application show you the wattage usage on each separate PCI lane ? Also , did your GPU have a power feed direct from the PSU ?
thanks, Reply
luwalo - Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - linkDoes a purchase like this make sense in early 2014 when Haswell-E/X99 is coming out later this year? A $500 mobo, plus $500 CPU, plus another few hundred for RAM and you are spending a lot on a part that will be replaced in < a year with something better. I just feel at this time, that this platform is a bit long in the tooth no native USB3 for instance.
I'm currently using SB/Z68 (:<) and I'm pretty comfortable waiting for Haswell-E/X99 at this point. It's only been in the last 6 months I've come to desire the X79 feature set. Reply
mapesdhs - Wednesday, January 15, 2014 - link
Makes perfect sense if you need to build something now. :D I've been talking to a movie
guy who's about to construct something based on this E revision. Similar to mine but better
GPUs, beginning with one 780Ti, expanding to 4 later. Only slight hitch is I've been trying
to convince him to use a Corsair H110 for the CPU instead of a big HS, the latter making
transport more difficult. Either way, it'll be a good AE system until he switches to a dual-socket
24-core XEON setup next year.
The only thing really missing from X79 (apart from a proper 8-core consumer chip option)
is more Intel SATA3 ports which don't suffer from the perils one can encounter with Marvell
ports. Both performance and reliability are better with the Intel ports, in some cases by a
huge margin. People harp on about USB3, but a lot of pro users I know rarely use it and if
they do need a USB link they're usually happy with USB2. Depends on the task though of
course, I'm sure some would find it important.
Ian. Reply
almajnall - Wednesday, January 15, 2014 - linkhi Reply
dzezik - Monday, February 10, 2014 - linkif You compare this funny mobo with professional supermicro e.g. X9SRL-F (7 PCIe slots for server use) or X9SRA for workstation it looks like a toy for kids. ASUS uses a lot of tricks but it cant overcome 40 lanes limitation from single CPU. motherboard is to complicated. 64GB of RAM is the limit? something is wrong with ASUS, Supermicro support 512GB. If You go for XEON chose Supermicro and Tyan Reply
mazzy80 - Friday, February 21, 2014 - linkActually the SM boards look more like demo sample that a real board with so few surface Caps, Mosfet that this Board. :)
The reality that they're not necessary to run the system at stock with the wide margin on Xeon about voltages.
BTW, the 64GB limit is about UDIMM Vs RDIMM, only on the C600 series the RDIMM & UDIMM are supported, on X79 only UDIMM.
SM rocks, you can't really go wrong with them for WS/Server rig. Reply
Hale_Kyou - Tuesday, March 04, 2014 - linkThe 64 Gb limitation is in Intel Xeon and i7 CPUs, the same. For buffered memory. 500-700 Gb are supported with buffered memory on E5 Xeons only (E7 have hybrid controllers with external components). Buffered memory is MUCH slower than unbuffered due to penalties introduced by buffer and its latent logic. The same, inter-CPU RAM access introduces big penalties on multicore Xeon sustems. That's why sometimes (generally in HPC simulations) single core system with unbuffered RAM is preferred. Reply
Hale_Kyou - Tuesday, March 04, 2014 - linkthere's a typo. Of course 64Gb limitation is for unbuffered RAM both in Xeon and i7. The limitation is removed on latest server-oriented Atoms. Reply
EdB1 - Thursday, July 31, 2014 - linkHi djezik, although your post is fairly old, I had a look at the two board you mentioned, and they don't have the same PCI-E lanes expansion capabilites as the P9X79-E WS board, which has 72 PCI-E lines, due to 2 additional PLX chips, and can run at 16x x 4 slots at full speed or 2 x 16x and 5 x 8x, the two boards you mentioned do have greater mem capacity though, ie; 512GB ECC vs 64GB ECC or non ECC.
So it really depends what you need this board to do. If you want to put 4 x 16X graphics cards in at once and don't need more than the 64GB ram limit, then this is the board to get, but if you do need more that the 64GB then the ASUS should not be considered. Reply
Hale_Kyou - Monday, March 03, 2014 - linkLiars! x79 DOE NOT support "full turbo mode (4.0 GHz) no matter the loading"
"One new feature called ASUS Ratio Boost is in the BIOS, which implements MultiCore Turbo for Xeon CPUs"
Is a lie, according to ASUS itself. I don't know why did they trick people this dirty way. Maybe Intel pays them for spreading weird rumors. But ASUS says that turbo bins can not be reconfigured on their boards for XEON CPUs! Reply
Hale_Kyou - Monday, March 03, 2014 - linkP.S. Of course it works on i7, that's why they lied about Xeon, but "proofed" with screenshots only with i7X running "all core full turbo". Reply
ReneGQ - Thursday, March 13, 2014 - linkI recently purchased an Asus Motherboard and the problems started from day 1. The drivers update never works, the same for AI Suite III (there´s a lot of updates for this model in Asus webpage). After 2 months I still can´t install BitDefender cause a clock watchdog error.
Asus technical support is the worst, mails comes and goes with no solution.
I will not recommend this brand to anyone. The brand has a very good Marketing but the product and the service are very disappointment. Reply
EdB1 - Tuesday, July 29, 2014 - linkThere is no driver support for Server 2012 so if you want to run it as a server using that OS then forget it. After all Asus has only had about 2-3 years to make the drivers for it. Using the Windows 8.x drivers doesn't work either, I tried to run them under admin mode and also compatibilty mode without success. Reply
EdB1 - Wednesday, July 30, 2014 - linkJust a followup to my previous post, there are drivers out there but not on the Asus site, got some links for the chipsets on another forum site, just need to find one more. Reply
lymang - Sunday, December 14, 2014 - linkI know this is old but I have to say, having bought one recently, I did not make the connection on how few USB headers on the mobo this had. I wish I'd caught that it had an internal USB 2.0 connector instead of a header. Reply


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>Gears and Wears>Jogging Strollers
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Curious what the hype is with the Bob Strollers? My little guy is 13 months and now that the nice weather is around the corner I'm likely going to retire the treadmill until next winter and take him running with me. All of my somewhat-running friends have spent $400+ on Bob Strollers, whereas Consumer Reports rates Schwinn and Baby Trend better than Bob...and they are both way cheaper. So I thought I'd go to the experts. Any advice?
Oh...in case you are wondering...no I won't be one of those inconsiderate people pushing a stroller in a race unless I start at the far back.
Curious what the hype is with the Bob Strollers? My little guy is 13 months and now that the nice weather is around the corner I'm likely going to retire the treadmill until next winter and take him running with me. All of my somewhat-running friends have spent $400+ on Bob Strollers, whereas Consumer Reports rates Schwinn and Baby Trend better than Bob...and they are both way cheaper. So I thought I'd go to the experts. Any advice?
Oh...in case you are wondering...no I won't be one of those inconsiderate people pushing a stroller in a race unless I start at the far back.
We used a Bob with my son and found it well built, very sturdy, and durable. It's a little heavy and the suspension seems to smooth out the ride for your little one but can suck some efficiency from your running. Perhaps those other strollers rate better when you factor price/value?
I've also used a Baby Jogger stroller. I find it's more efficient (fast) than the Bob but doesn't fold up as quickly.
As for racing... I do it. It can be fun in smaller 5Ks and it's never crowded in our end of the race.
I've had a double bob for several years. It's the only jogging stroller we've ever had. Don't use it a ton, but it's been great. Like xristopher said, it's sturdy and durable.
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After reading an article in Running Times about strollers (check the archives), we bought a cheap Instep 20k, and it worked very well. We now have a ginormous Burley that doubles as a big trailer. My kids don't really tolerate sitting in the stroller anymore (they are 6 and 4), so we don't use it much.
Here's the article. It may be dated now:
my wife and I both run a little bit. We use the bob and with a little bribery, we can get the kids to be happy to sit in the stroller for up to 12 mile runs.
IMHO, it is more about how long you can get the kids to stay in the stroller than how good the stroller is. If you have a $1000 stroller but can only run for a couple miles, what is the point... Once you get the kids to cooperate, then worry about how perfect it is, not vice versa.
I have used the Jogger II with the big wheels which I LOVED and the Chariot Cougar which I also like a lot.
The Jogger II can have an infant adapter for children under 6 months to ride in their car seat, which I needed. It drove smooth and easy. The only negative is it did not fold up much and was not a stroller you could take in the car very often. (A larger car, maybe not an issue) The big wheels is important for that.
The Cougar folds up much better and easier, and can also be used as a bike trailer. It isn't quite as smooth and fast of a stroller (weight is about the same, but it being lower to the ground seems more awkward to me) and while this doesn't matter to me, does not seems to be as comfortable if you are tall (over 6'2) even with the adjustable handlebar. .
I think having a GOOD stroller is important if you have to get any real miles in it. A few miles now and again, maybe not... but I'd rather be more comfortable.
And the better ones, you actually can get a lot back out of when you are done by selling on Craigslist compared to the cheaper ones. You might not think about that in the price, but if you are willing to use Craigslist, check the ads for a while and see how well they retain value, and if you can pick up a very good condition used one. I ended up selling the Baby Jogger for more than I bought it for after 6 months of use by catching someone quickly who hadn't seen how well they retain value and how rarely they come up in my area when I bought it, and selling it when I needed one that traveled easier.
I have tried some of the cheaper brands, including Baby Trend, from my friends. I HATED them. They did not feel like a good ride for a serious runner. Of course, maybe it's like shoes and this is just reflective of me. What I hated the most is my daughter didn't want to sit in it.
The Jogger and the Chariot are both supercomfortable for the kids. My daughter loves to ride in both, from infant to preschooler. (Less distance now, only because she wants to run too.) Older kids you can use snacks, books, talking, etc. Younger kids, talking and going during nap time work well.
I did a bit of research on this, since my wife and I are thinking of having a child. Anyway, I need to find the rest of the articles I read, but here is one.
I did a bit of research on this, since my wife and I are thinking of having a child. Anyway, I need to find the rest of the articles I read, but here is one.
Just hit that link and noted the BOB Revolution is the first review which reminds me... DO NOT BUY A JOGGING STROLLER WITHOUT A HAND BRAKE! Of course, that's just my opinion but I can't imagine not having it.
The BOB Revolution has a handy swivel/lock front wheel but no hand brake. We used a BOB Sport Utility Stroller with a hand brake and really wore the pads down. The brake allows you to stop on a dime, or faster, and will allow you to comfortably slow the stroller when walking/running down hill. Without it you might expend a lot of energy hanging on to the stroller. I'd consider this a necessary safety feature too.
Our BOB was mostly used for walking, which I think is normal, and was excellent on challenging surfaces such as trails and even the beach. We could trunk it in our Honda Civic w/ no issue. It even fit in our Thule roof box. We flew with it many times and even the gorillas at the airport didn't break it.
Thanks for the info everyone. I decided that I'm going to do a test drive. One of my friends is going to bring her Bob Revolution over on Friday and I'm going to buy a Baby Trend tonight....I will try them both for about a mile with baby, and will then decide if I need to return the Baby Trend and buy a much more expensive Bob. I need to keep in mind though that I will likely only use this thing 1/week and that most of my running will be done solo. Thanks again.
I think your last post hit the nail on the head. Are you going to use this a lot or a little. We have a chariot double that we have used for the past 5 years and it was used an average of 4 days a week ALL YEAR long between walking, running, and biking. It has biked in the rain and spent many days in amusement parks. It is a bit dirty but it still moves as well as ever and we have had no issues with it.
We just bought a BOB double because my wife wanted to keep the two little ones seperate. We bought it based on many friends reviews of it. So far it has been great (about 250 miles on it between walking and running). It has a permanent spot in the back of the Odyssey minivan and gets out almost every day.
The issues we have seen with the cheaper brand has been durability and comfort. If you are going to use it for a once a week run and only for a year or so, then you are probably ok with the cheaper brands. I also have friends that have bought a chariot or a BOB and used it for a year or two and then sold it for 75-80% of the original price so you get the better quality at the lower price.
I am not sure about the handbrake issue that someone else mentioned. Neither of our joggers have handbrakes and I have had no issues. We do a lot of running at 8-8:30 pace with the double jogger and have had no issues stopping it. I guess if you were a small person and you had a lot of weight in the jogger it would be a different story. My wife has asked for lots of accessories for both of the joggers and never has a break been mentioned.
Definately check Craigslist. I ended up with three. A Baby Trend and two Baby Joggers. The Baby Trend has 16" wheels, lots of features, but doesn't seem to roll very straight. It' was a pain to run any real distance with, but a pleasure in a park. The 20" Baby Jogger is a speed demon, but it is the older model that doesn't break down well. I have to carry it in the back of may truck. Great for training runs and even burned through a 5k with it. The other Baby Jogger has 10" wheels and breaks down very flat. It's not a stable with the little wheels but I got a deal on it. We haven't used it, but I figured I would get both since I got a deal and will probably end up making money on all three when selling.
We bought one of the all-terrain bob strollers used on craig's list. It seems very sturdy. It has nice shocks, good brakes, and the tires go over absolutely everything. Our son is too young to go running, but we have started him in it for walks. The stroller does fine over snow, ice, packed dirt, and crumbly roads & sidewalks. When he's 6 months old, I feel pretty confident that he would be safe in this stroller. Of course, I'll likely stick to paved trails or packed dirt with minimal incline--no stroller mountain runs!


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A new class of future emergency medical technicians, the 103rd Class of the Baltimore County Fire-Rescue Academy, began its course of study this week at the Fire-Rescue Academy in Sparrows Point.
The class comprises 37 recruits -- 23 men and 14 women -- who reflect the diversity of our communities. They will graduate as Probationary Emergency Medical Technicians and will be assigned to one of the Fire Department's 25 career stations.
The 18-week program includes training in: Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA); basic exterior fire ground operations; hazardous material operations; operation of emergency vehicles; and Fire Department policies and procedures.
The recruits work under the direction of Fire Director Patrick Murphy, who oversees the FRA.
BCoFD, like other fire departments across the nation, experiences a heavy and growing demand for emergency medical service. Nearly 90,000 of the 124,000 calls handled by BCoFD last year were medical calls.


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Adobe Creative Cloud is a radical new way we are providing our industry-leading products and services. As a member, you'll be able to access the Creative Cloud to make, share and deliver your creative work. It is centred around the powerful release of Adobe Creative Suite 6, packed with innovation across its industry-defining design, Web, video and digital imaging tools.
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Don't forget today's noon Live Chat right here. You can check in from the ledge.
1) For a team that's played just 16 games, there have sure been a a lot of them for which I really don't have an explanation.
2) I thought it was fitting, though, that this game was won on a whiff. The whole game was a whiff. But a large improvement over that disaster against Montreal … … … … … sorry, I dozed off again thinking about that game.
3) Other than the staged fights early in the season, when was the last time any Ranger showed any snarl? I mean, some serious anger at an opponent? Last year it happened about 18 times a game, and the snarlier the game, the better the Rangers played. This team is different. This team isn't nasty. It isn't a difficult opponent. Maybe that will change at some point, but basically, the top six forwards (or seven or eight) aren't, as a group or individually, playing well enough, and the bottom six (or four or five) aren't as good as they were last year, either.
4) And part of that is on special teams. Now, with Rick Nash out for who knows how long (?) this power play looks like last year's power play, which was terrible. Last night, the power play was better than decent, even scored a big 1-1 goal.
5) On the other hand, the power play gave up one of the more hideous goals of the season, that short-hander. The Rangers, I thought, were fine to that point, and didn't react well after it. And it was just a series of breakdowns. I admit, I don't know what happened to cause Michael Del Zotto to lose the puck at the point (replays never went back farther than that), but then Dan Girardi took a run at the eventual goal scorer, went for the poke instead of the body check, and blew a tire. That led to the extremely rare breakaway from the halfboards, partly because J.T. Miller was coasting back, and it led to a goal because Henrik Lundqvist didn't/couldn't come up with a pokecheck to prevent the back-handed shot.
6) The other half of the special teams, which was good last year, isn't nearly so good this year. That late power play, after the Rangers had somehow (with help from an injury to Craig Anderson) gotten a 2-1 lead in the third, and then Brian Boyle took a penalty, didn't take long. Derek Stepan (9 of 22) lost a draw, the Rangers got scrambly and both defensemen — Marc Staal and Girardi — went to their knees. OK, so it's 5-on-4 with two guys on their knees. Do the math. That's why I have always liked both Staal and Girardi apart more than together.
7) That penalty called on Teflon Chris Neil? Pansification. That's not a penalty. But I do believe it was the first penalty ever called on Neil against the Rangers? He did about 100 things worse than that in the playoff series last year, none of them called.
8) Some guys got banged up, too. We don't know what's up with Arron Asham, we don't know what happened to Michael Del Zotto. Brad Richards got beat up a bit (he's become an easy target). Minus Nash, it's getting pretty thin. That guy Marc Methot caused a whole bunch of black-and-blues, including the Del Zotto injury and the one to his own goalie when he tripped the flying Chris Kreider into the net.
9) I thought Miller and Kreider both made at least one really bad play, but otherwise were pretty good, especially Kreider.
10) Henrik Lundqvist ultimately was responsible for the Bettman Bonus Point for Losing. And the post behind Ben Bishop (Marian Gaborik in OT, Kreider in the Breakaway Contest After The Hockey Game Ends) was responsible for the Rangers not getting two. Not saying they deserved two, but they could have had two.
11) I support and admire the Garden of Dreams, and I usually buy one of those raffle tickets for $100. But I don't understand why there are only 15 items available for the raffle. Why not make it 100 items? Give everybody a much better chance to win something, you'd probably double the number of tickets sold. I've been involved in some charity raffles, and it always seems that the more stuff you raffle, the more tickets you sell. And it's not like it costs much to get jersey or a stick or a puck autographed by a player.
12) Going back to this whole "this team is different; this team isn't rugged enough" theory of mine. They didn't replace all the guys they lost with more rugged guys. They didn't. And though it was a great trade of Mike Rupp for Darroll Powe, now that Powe's out that's another loss of grind. I think they need to play Stu Bickel more, even if he only plays Matt Gilroy's single-digit minutes every night.
13) But the bottom line is that, yes, the bottom six aren't as good as last year's bottom six, and the top six aren't playing nearly well enough as a group. Especially two of the top three (Richards and Gaborik). Not even close.
14) Tell the truth. Would you not have felt better if that game ended in a tie after overtime, one point apiece?
My Three Rangers Stars:
1. Ryan Callahan.
2. Henrik Lundqvist.
3. Chris Kreider.
Ranger JHW Three Rangers Stars:
1. Henrik Lundqvist-steals a point.
2. Ryan Callahan-Hank's partner in crime.
3. I just can't!
Your poll vote for Three Rangers Stars:
1. Ryan Callahan (22.43 %).
2. Henrik Lundqvist (13.27 %).
3. Ryan McDonagh (12.24 %).
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Picoult returns with two provocative questions: can a human join a wolf pack, and who has the right to make end-of-life decisions? Luke Warren, a vital free spirit, has devoted himself to understanding wolf behavior, to the point of having once abandoned his family to live with wolves. Now divorced and raising his 17-year-old daughter, Cara, near his wolf compound, Luke sustains a traumatic brain injury in an accident. His ex-wife, Georgie, remarried to a lawyer, summons Cara's brother, Edward, from Thailand, where he's lived for years alienated from his family, who assume the estrangement stems from his father's rejection of Edward's homosexuality. Cara wants to keep her father on life support; Edward struggles with resentment but believes his father wouldn't want to exist in a vegetative state. As Cara and Edward navigate their own conflicts and Luke languishes in a coma, Picoult folds in mesmerizing excerpts of Luke's book about life with the wolves. There are no surprises, as Picoult (My Sister's Keeper) as usual probes intriguing matters of the heart while introducing her fans to subjects they might not otherwise explore. You can always count on Picoult for a terrific page-turner about a compelling subject. Agent: Laura Gross, Laura Gross Literary Agency. (Feb. 28)
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Jodi Picoult thought she had created a unique character in her new novel, Lone Wolf—a man who studies wolves by living with them. Then she met Shaun Ellis, who spent a year living with wolves in the Rockies. During a visit to Ellis' wildlife park, Picoult got up close and personal with these feared animals.
The first thing Shaun taught me was the rankings of a wolf pack. The first wolf you'll encounter is not the alpha, but a beta—tough, comes rushing up to you, responsible for discipline in the pack. Betas are expendable; they are the thugs in the Mafia family. The alpha will hang back. Wary. The brains of the group, and too valuable to put him or herself in danger—he's like the king not going into battle. The alpha is the one who tells everyone—including the big tough beta—what to do. An alpha can hear the change in the rhythm of your heart rate from six or seven feet away. An alpha female can terminate her own pregnancy if she feels that it's not a good time for breeding in the pack. She can keep the other females from coming into season, so that she is the only one breeding. She can create a phantom pregnancy, which puts all the adult wolves on their best behavior, trying to be picked as nanny—and then when everyone's acting on their best game, she reveals that she isn't pregnant at all.
Next is the diffuser wolf—the low man on the totem pole, the one who eats last, the one who seemingly is picked on by the other wolves. There's a tester wolf—the quality control dude. He's a nervous wolf, always on edge, who makes sure that everyone is doing his job. Then come the numbers wolves, which fill in the pack with strength of size.
One of the things Shaun taught me to do was to howl, so that I could communicate with wolves. Howls are like wolf email. They use them to communicate with other packs, telling them how strong their pack is.
Shaun showed me that there are three types of howls: a rallying howl, which is a vocal beacon to bring back a missing member of the pack; a locating howl, which is like a voice message to give the placement of any pack that's in the area; and finally, a defensive howl, which is used to protect your territory. With my son and my publicist in tow, Shaun taught us the melody that an alpha, a beta and a numbers wolf would use. I started as the alpha—a deep intermittent tone, howling for five or six seconds and then listening to make decisions based on what I hear. My son's beta howl was three times longer than mine—it was all about strength, to let those listening know how tough he was. Finally, my publicist, as the numbers wolf, created the illusion that there were many of her, with a howl that circled and pitched between the tones my son and I were using. The most amazing thing happened: The packs all around us began to howl back. It was the coolest feeling to know that we had "sent" out our position, and were getting responses because we were speaking their language.
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Who's On Your Freebie List?
Whenever my girlfriends and I get together for a Girls' Night Out, we always talk about the latest versions of our freebie lists.
The revelations usually take place just after dinner. We're relaxed, enjoying dessert, a little buzzed, and primed for some laughter and the inevitable swooning. It's one of my favourite times of the evening.
If you've watched Friends, you'll know what the "freebie list" is. For those who don't know, the freebie list is the list of famous people you can bed with the permission of your significant other, if you are able to lure them to your lair in the first place.
I'm sure, for a group of smokin'-hot babes, my girls and I would all have a decent chance with the dudes on our lists - if only we'd move to Hollywood, choose the guys that were still alive, and not have to invent a time machine to hook up with the hotties in question. Yes, I'm looking at you, sly and myrtle! "Sean Connery but only in Darby O'Gill and the Little People", indeed! Pfft!
Ross' laminated list had only 5, but we increased our lists to 10. For this post, I'll only reveal my top 5.
So, how about you? Have you made your own list? Who's on it?
Okay, without further ado, here's my Top 5...
Gerard Butler
My #1, this dude's appeal is that he's not a pretty-boy. Smart and funny, Ger would make a one-night-stand entertaining in more ways than one.
It's rather disturbing that, in some pictures, he looks eerily like Roomie. I mean, fantasizing about a guy that looks just like your spouse shows such a lack of imagination. But it also means I'm married to my fantasy guy. :)
Eric Bana
He was hot in Troy... well, who wasn't hot in Troy?! But he was truly the apex of hottitude in that movie, outshining even Brad Pitt, to me at least. Harmzie might disagree. :)
Olivier Martinez
Restaurant bathroom scene, Unfaithful... just watch it and you'll understand. :) Kylie's a lucky girl. He's also known as the Brad Pitt of France... do you see it? I do... a little.
Richard Dean Anderson
He never did anything for me as McGyver, but as Jack O'Neill in Stargate SG-1, wow. He rocks that black t-shirt when he runs. :) Once again, the humour is a big factor.
Requires no justification, n'est pas? :)
Okay, now you! I can't wait to see who's on your lists!
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OK, here it is... a list of living guys who I don't have to go back in time for!ReplyDelete
Clive Owen - yummy with a fabulous sexy voice.
Eric Bana - yeah, what you said.
Ewan McGregor - Like the movies (trainspotting, pillow book, big fish), dig the riding a motorcycle around the world and love that cute smile in Moulin Rouge.
George Clooney - handsome funny. what could be better.
Matt Damon - he's a new addition, but I like a funny guy, and all the jimmy kimmel stuff is cracking me up. Plus, I like the brooding look in the Bourne movies.
great list, girlfriend!ReplyDelete
yeah, clive... if I were to reveal the second half of my list, he'd be there... and climbing fast! :)
You are a nasty girl! You've been bugging me about this for years, so here goes. This list is only good for today, tomorrow, it might be different.ReplyDelete
Gabriel Byrne & Bryan Ferry. I count them as one, because I suspect they might be the same person. Have YOU ever seen them in the same place at the same time??? I didn't think so. A similar example is Kevin Costner & Dennis Quaid (neither on this "list" btw)
Sting - d'uh. Since about grade 8.
Adam Levine - look 'im up and tell me your knees don't get weak. Oh yeah, Cougar me up, baby. Like Uma Thurman says "I've got tshirts older than you"
Patrick Stewart - make it SO captain!!!
Han Solo >OOPS< of course I mean Harrison Ford. Have you ever seen him playing a NOT so nice guy! He's even better...
Kevin Spacey - he, on the other hand is NOT hotter when he's nasty. He is scary. Fortunately, he's not usually nasty.
That's five. I like big nerds and I can not lie. My nerd-sisters can't deny...
But of course I'm well (painfully?) aware that there is no *real* freebie list if it ever came down to it. Since that's the case, here's a couple of more:
Brad Pitt - a staple. He's best when he's insane... but mostly naked & buff is just fine too (Troy)
I have a nerd-sister friend (gave me my name) who shyly & embarrassedly (word?) admitted she had a thing for Sam Waterston (Law & Order). She said people usually gave her nasty looks when she admitted that but I am TOTALLY with her! (Given the nature of this "list", I should probably clarify: not "with her" so much, but more "in agreement")
Robin Williams - that would just be a wild adventure.
Clint Eastwood - just for bragging rights for the S.O.
What?!!! Brad's only an ALTERNATE?ReplyDelete
Okay, I guess if you go full 10, he'll be there, but I'm a little stunned he didn't make Top 5.
You were always so non-committal with your List. Over the years, I think I was only able to get Adam Levine and Brad Pitt out of you. ;)
Hey. The list is shifting sands...ReplyDelete
oooh, Bryan Ferry. Love that voice. He could be on my list. Gabriel Byrne could be too.ReplyDelete
Never thought of the Gabriel Byrne/Bryan Ferry connection. Kind of like the Robert DeNiro/Al Pacino connection (not on my list, but I really have trouble remembering who stars in which movie).
I like Sting, but back in the days of the Police, I had a thing for Andy Summers. Sting seemed too serious.
Oh goodness... only 5. I'm off to narrow down my list. Be back soon, reporting with my list. Like Harmzie, I usually like the geeky guys too. And I KNOW Brad Pitt won't make my list. Dunno what it is, but I guess he's just not my type.ReplyDelete
Ok, be back soon!
1. Capt. Jack Harkness, oh I mean John Barrowman. The man is a triple threat. He can sing, act, plays in a sci-fi show (Torchwood), and dresses great. Nevermind the fact that he's gay. I'm in love. Plain and simple.ReplyDelete
1. (It's a tie, what can I say...) Peter Berg. Mainly a director (Friday Night Lights, Wonderland, The Kingdom, Very Bad Things), but he was in Alias, and had small appearances in Collateral, Smokin' Aces, and Corky Romano, I feel in lust with him as a teen in Aspen Extreme. He's been my number 1 ever since!
3. Zachary Levi- He plays in NBC's Chuck. The show is a little bit of Alias, little bit of geeky-goodness, with Mr. Hottie running around. I'm a sucker for his dark hair.
4. Adam Levine- Yum, Yum. Yum. Dark eyes, dark hair... (I'm melting...) and the man can croon some tunes.
5. Jamal Mayers- I'm not sure he counts, since he's a professional hockey player for the St. Louis Blues; but he just moved onto my list these past 3 months. He's bald, dark eyes (again!), and looks great in a suit (or a hockey uniform, hell, he'd look good in anything).
Others further down my list: Matt Damon, Matthew Goode, and Matthew McConaughey.
uh oh, I think Peter Berg and Adam Levine are going to be kicking a few people off the second half of my list!ReplyDelete
Jamal Mayers totally counts... he's famous, so he counts. :)
Despite being gay, Tom Ford has almost made my list on numerous occasions.
Oh boy! Here goes my list:ReplyDelete
1. Gerard Butler - need I say more. oh Gawd, yeah!
2. Clive Owen - intelligent and sexy and AWWWWW-SOME!!
3. Orlando Bloom - cute as Legolas, hot by the last Pirates movie. It's good to have a youngin in the list.
4. David Bowie - ever since I saw Labyrinth as I was kid - wow. But has anyone noticed him in "The Prestige" - gets better with time!!
5. Takeshi Kaneshiro - normally, asians aren't my type (maybe b/c i've had a stigma in my head that all asian guys were somehow related to me after calling their mother's "Auntie") he may be not overexposed in Hollywood, but he was definitely sexy in "House of Flying Daggers"
Goodness, after reviewing this list, none are Americans. LOL! How funny!
Dang! Orlando Bloom! This list is going to go through several iterations before it goes to the laminators...ReplyDelete
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oh yes Orlando! :) He is on the second half of my list, along with Clive, Adam, Peter, and Ed Quinn, who I'm thinking of bringing up to the Top 5...
@harmzie -
Just as you said, girlfriend: "shifting sands"...
Hmmm... no responses from guys yet? I guess someone has to tell you what your husbands are thinking so it may as well be this idiot!ReplyDelete
All I can say is... Bryan Ferry? Bryan Ferry rates up there with all this muscular eye candy? How does that work?
OK, if Bryan Ferry (and Andy Summers? what? Behind Stewart Copeland?) make someone's list, here's some alternates that you all might want to reconsider. If the name doesn't conjure up a face, you should probably google for best effect... :-)
1. Steve Buscemi. Come on, he's funny, and good looking! He was hilarious in Reservoir Dogs and in Ghost World!
2. Lloyd Robertson. That voice, those ties, the hair... plus, for some of you, you don't have to worry about shouting out the wrong name!
3. Floyd Robertson. Especially if he's dressed up as his alter ego, Count Floyd.
4. Dumbledore. The long flowing beard, the odd pronouncements, the magic... plus I just like the idea of girls oohing and aahing "oh, Dumbledore!".
4 (tie) Terry Gilliam as he appears as Patsy in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Funny and handy with the cocoanuts!
5. The Trailer Park Boys, especially Buggles or whatever his name is. Someone who really enjoys taking care of his kitties must really know how to treat a lady right. Plus, he's so full of self confidence that he doesn't care about his appearance. We all know how much the ladies like that...
6. Peter Mackay. Journalists always refer to him as a heartthrob, so he must be, right?
hmmm... so you're saying you *wouldn't* sleep with any of these guys...ReplyDelete
I should get Roomie to comment... I wonder if Rachel Stevens and Jennifer Aniston are still on his list...ReplyDelete
...so, I just watched "Elizabeth - The Golden Age" and Clive Owen might be telling Jean-Luc Picard or Harrison Ford that it's time to retire. {Oh my...}ReplyDelete
I find it odd that Albert is more interested in padding the ladies' lists than providing his own... Albert, is there something you're not telling us?
I know this is an old post, but I could have sworn I commented on it before. My wife and I have many conversations over this list. Oh well, here goes the first male list of FEMALE freebies!ReplyDelete
In order of most importance:
Selma Hayek: She's so smoking hot. She's got a great body, just the right amount of curves, not too skinny, not too big. Just right.
Monica Belucci: She looked great in The Matrix Reloaded, and that was the first time I had ever seen her. I was pretty blown away, and she's older (than me anyway), which is hot. Also older than me.
Nicole Kidman: Older than me. I never really cared for her until Moulin Rouge. Then I realized how hot she was.
Alyson Hannigan: I was never a Buffy fan (I just don't watch much TV, nothing against Buffy) but I always thought Alyson was really cute. Just a very pretty, girl-next-door type of girl. I find that attractive. Older than me by 4 years.
Man, that's all I can come up with right now. I thought I'd have more, but I guess not.
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Nice list! I can totally see Selma Hayek's appeal. Your list seems quite varied... the only common denominator seems to be the 'older women' thing. Very cool!
On behalf of all my fellow 30+yo women, thank you ;)
Yeah, I'm 30 myself, so Alyson Hannigan isn't too much older than me, but either way. women my age aren't really represented all that well in the media. Usually they end up in a National Lampoon movie doing something stupid. Older women are more often portrayed as capable and intelligent, which is more attractive than drinking beer and showing boobies, although the occasional boobies are nice as well.ReplyDelete
Oddly enough, my wife is four years younger than me, but she's much smarter and mature than me, so the attraction level is the same as if she were older.
I'd also like to add Carrie-Anne Moss from The Matrix. Another capable, intelligent woman, who could also probably help me with the more technical aspects of my blog, considering she could hack a human brain.
There should be some feature that informs you when someone sends a comment your way... totally missed this one.ReplyDelete
Harmzie, there is *nothing* I'm not telling you. The real reason I'm not providing my own freebie list is that I don't think I get one. Nothing's free, there's a cost associated with everything.
Plus, it's fun making up a list that gently mocks some of the surprising names that show up on some of the lists posted here. Well, actually, most of the surprising names on the list posted by you and Myrtle. It's six months later, and I'm still laughing out loud at the idea of Bryan Ferry and Andy Summers as pin-ups. To each her own...
Paul --- check out the 2007 flick Fido for another side of Carrie-Anne Moss. It's a light fluffy movie about zombies (honest) where she plays a 1950's style mom at home.
Paul - Alyson Hannigan? I'm too lazy to google her name right now, but isn't she the band camp girl from American Pie? Really?
@albert -ReplyDelete
There is a check box when leave a comment that allows you to get follow-up comments emailed to you. :)
@ Albert Bannatyne: I've seen Fido twice, it's a pretty good flick, and yes, Carrie-Anne Moss was really sexy in that as well. She can do no wrong.ReplyDelete
Yes, Alyson Hannigan is from American Pie, but I never saw that movie. You're not the first person to react that way when I announce that I find her hot. I can't bring myself to watch American Pie though, as I like comedy.
For Paul and Albert... Alyson Hanigan is certainly cute and pretty... Here's my suggestions for girls:ReplyDelete
Scarlett Johansson (young, but she seems such a throw back),
Jennifer Garner (she kicked serious butt in Alias),
Kate Winslet (curvey girls rock),
Julia Stiles (she's unique, I like that),
Anna Paquin (she's quiet and stays out of the spotlight),
and Katherine Heigl (I've been a huge fan of hers since My Father, The Hero and Roswell...she's simply beautiful).
There we go. I love this post, Nen!
@ bionic beauty: Wow, you reminded me of ladies I need on my list, thanks!ReplyDelete
Scarlett Johansson: While I think she's physically beautiful, I'm not actually attracted to her. Something about her makes me think we wouldn't get along in real life.
Jennifer Garner: I do find her very attractive and she seems like a nice person. Definitely on the list. She was very cute in '13 Going on 30'.
Kate Winslet: Extremely hot, I can't believe I forgot to add her, I've had the hots for her since... forever. I also saw her in real life at a SAG screening and questionnaire. She's very sweet, and yes, I find her more attractive because she has a bit more curves than many other actresses. She should probably be at the top of my list, before Selma Hayek.
Anna Paquin: I find her somewhat attractive, but I'm not sure I would want to have sexual relations with her. I like her acting though.
and Katherine Heigl: Physically attractive, but I'm not attracted to her. She seems like a diva, and I'm not referring to her singing voice.
I've been waiting FOUR months in hopes that this post will get going again! Yay!ReplyDelete
@Paul: I am intrigued by your analysis of SJ. I have always thought it rather "silly" that I would find a stranger (celebrity) "attractive" but not **attractive** (I don't know how to make HTML sparkly letters, and don't care to find out), and that the difference was the physical vs. the (perceived) intellectual. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one.
Gee, this sounds like I've put a lot of thought into it throughout my life. Umm... I haven't... really.
@ Harmzie: yeah, I know what you mean. I guess it's not that I think I know what she would be like in real life, it's just a sense I get. A perception that makes me think... nah, I'll pass.ReplyDelete
@harmzie and @Paul -ReplyDelete
And *that* is the reason why Brad Pitt will never make it to my list.
@ Nenette: I think Brad Pitt is probably an ok guy in real life, maybe just a bit cocky, but he's earned it. He IS Brad Pitt after all.ReplyDelete
George Clooney seems like an utter douche bag to me though.
Neither Brad Pitt nor George Clooney are on my list. They aren't geeky enough for me. :) I like my guys tall, dark, mysterious and slightly nerdy.ReplyDelete
@Paul -ReplyDelete
I can see Brad as a drinking buddy, but not a shagging buddy. Same with George.
Yeah, I like mine tall, dark, handsome, funny, and a tad on the nerdy side, too. Expand my list to 10, and you'll even find a scientist guy.
Well, that's odd. I did click on the check box when I first posted, but I didn't receive any of these latest comments.ReplyDelete
I'll think of my girls and update on the newer post. However, first I want to add Craig Ferguson to my boy list.
@paul: that's funny. I had a thing for David Duchovny a while back (a "celebrity" thing, so it was pretty small). I recall turning "Celebrity Jeopardy" off when he was on it because I really didn't want to find out that he was an idiot or a jerk - or worse than all that: flat. I guess more realistically, I had a thing for Fox Mulder - hee hee: nerdy anyone? Jami? ;-)ReplyDelete
@myrtle: THAT's funny, because I didn't think I had checked that box and suddenly I'm getting all these noticed (to Nen: I probably did - obviously - I just didn't remember)
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Sad that all these guys aren't really nerds -- they "just play one on tv".
On the other hand, there's Spencer Wells (my #5 - yes, I moved him up), a geneticist with National Geographic. I watch him on the CD that came with the Genographic Project that Roomie and I took part in. Roomie wondered why I kept swooning over mitochondrial DNA until I sheepishly admitted that it wasn't that but the tall, handsome scientist guy explaining it. :)
Ed Quinn (my #2) is a scientist on Eureka, but he's a musician in real life. I'm completely okay with that -- being a musician myself, I'm aware of the technical knowledge involved. I know, doesn't really count as nerdy, but I'm hoping that means he's not an idiot.
- Paul Johns19 September, 2008
@ harmzie: That's funny because I always had a thing for Dana Scully, but not so much Gillian Anderson. I like nerdy girls too, especially ones that don't show a lot of emotion. It gives me a challenge. I have to break through the icy exterior.ReplyDelete
@Nenette: Ed Quinn. Yeah. I may have to rework my list a bit.ReplyDelete
@ Paul: oohh, Dana Scully! How could I forget her? I have a professional job that takes me out in the field. I like to look professional and yet functional and TO THIS DAY when I shop I'm saying "WWDSW?" (I think I might need a bracelet). Plus, she's just so cool and logical and never "chicky" - just aaall woman. When she gets pissed, you KNOW she's pissed... She gave us nerd-girls a role model. You know, something a little more functional than Uhura. Even Deanna Troi was a waif (now, Tasha Yar...)ReplyDelete
Given that our lists are populated by fantasy persons (you've never met them, so that's all you have to go on) and the FACT that there is no such thing as a "freebie" (I'll play - with relish! - but I stand by that) I'm going to go ahead & pick TV characters (ref: "who's on your freebie list?").
oops! crap! It seems I'm getting confused between these two posts! Sorry. I hope anyone reading has them both in separate windows like I do!ReplyDelete
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So true, what harmzie said. I think the fact that we all see this as a fantasy game is what makes it such fun to play.
To take all this seriously would be incredibly irresponsible.
Yeah, it's all in fun...
So, please feel free to share the list of dudes you think are hot these days. We need a male perspective.
But, if you tell me Mario Lopez is better than sliced bread, I may have to shut this blog down and become a nun...
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lol ... and for some that's a topic for a whole OTHER fantasy realm!ReplyDelete
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ah, yes, the "Tarts, Nuns, and Vicars" Universe :) LOL
...feeling much better since I've figured out you're not talking of Ed Harris (I noticed the bumping on your sidebar), who is certainly no slouch, but nonetheless was confusing me slightly... :-)ReplyDelete
I was worried that I missed a post & we had shifted to "top 5 father figures"!
@harmzie -ReplyDelete
LOL Yikes! No, no... I'm sure you already looked it up, but for those who haven't, it's this Ed:
1. Salma Hayek: Lord have mercy... she is totally smokin' hot.ReplyDelete
2. Emma Thompson: Just plain ol' sexy... and British, to boot.
3. Christina Hendricks: The how redhead from "Mad Men"
4. Tilda Swinton: Particularly as a redhead. I know, she is a little odd, but hey, it is what it is.
5. Kim Kardashian: She is a little on the skanky side... but hey, I like it a little dirty from time to time... and you can't beat an ass like that.


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Notts groundsman Steve Birks has reported that work to improve the outfield at Trent Bridge is ahead of schedule.
The £600,000 project, funded by a grant from the ECB, will see new turf, drainage and sprinklers installed in time for the new domestic season in April and the ICC World Twenty20 in June.
"We started to lay the turf last week and we expect it to bind to the root zone within ten days," said Steve, who has maintained regular contact with main contractor Steven Pask.
"When that happens we'll give it a light roll and we may even be able to cut it before Christmas.
"It has taken well and we've seen some growth already which is a sign that the mild weather has helped us.
"We should have all the turf down within four weeks and we're very confident that we'll be able to stay ahead of schedule."
In addition to the outfield works, the square has been extended with five new practice wickets installed at the Fox Road end.


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Life is about learning and about celebrating wisdom through experiences and kupuna (elders). It has been 8 years since Sean Na`auao has released a solo album and Sean would agree it seems like a blink of an eye. Sean has continued his live performaces never wavering from what keeps him going everyday, his music. For Sean, he found his musical journey very personal. Finding inspiration through his ancestors – his kupuna and from his very gut – his na`au – he found his musical heritage with the recording of his new CD. This coming of age album captures the very essence of his Hawaiian music career. Showcasing a masterful musician doing what he does best making Hawaiian music. This 11-song CD embraces his ancestry and reminisces sounds from his childhood while looking forward to a bright future perpetuating the Hawaiian music for all generations.
It is N A ` A U A O.


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"Already missing Denmark 1,000 highly trained in IT and electronics. This figure is expected to rise to 4,000 by 2020. Therefore, Denmark must focus on to inspire the Danes to not only use technology - but also create technology." Adam Lebech, Director, DI ITEK
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The eGovernment Strategy 2011-2015 "Digital Road to the Future Welfare" includes 69 initiatives aimed at digitizing the public sector.
The government's growth team for ICT and digital growth delivered its recommendations in January 2014. In this context formulated growth team a vision for the Danish society's digital development and exploitation of ICT in 2020:
Denmark is among the leading countries in Europe in terms of the population's ICT skills. Strong digital skills of managers and employees who match the needs of both the private and public sectors, ensure that we utilize ICT as a force of change.
The Danish government is expected to launch a growth plan for ICT and digital growth in late 2014 include based on growth team's recommendations.
There preparing new joint public digitization strategy for the years 2016-2020. The digitalisation strategy aims to modernize the Danish population's welfare and streamline the public sector.
1) The Government and KL (Local Government Association) has launched an initiative for increased use of IT in schools. This effort was part of the eGovernment Strategy 2011-2015. The EUR 500 million. kr. to the effort over a four year period from 2012 to 2015. Most of the funds allocated to a fund for financing of municipal procurement of digital learning materials, and in addition, the projects launched five development projects with demonstration schools, carried out an analysis of the use of digital learning resources and established skoleleder- and teacher networks on the use IT and digital teaching aids in teaching. The work has now been extended to 2017.
2) All citizens in Denmark will from 1 November 2014 only receive Digital Post from the public. In this context, launched a massive information campaign for citizens. All companies have already had digital mailboxes in a year.


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