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Building the 2012 AnandTech SMB / SOHO NAS Testbedby Ganesh T S on 9/5/2012 6:00 PM EST
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xTRICKYxx - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkMay I ask why do you guys need such high requirements? And why 12 VMs? I just think this is overkill. But it doesn't matter anyways... If I had a budget like this, I would totally build an awesome NAS like you guys have and follow this guide. Great job! Reply
xTRICKYxx - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkI should clarify I am looking at this NAS as a household commodity, not something where 10+ computers will be heavily accessing it. Reply
mfed3 - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkstill didn't read...this is hopeless.. Reply
extide - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkDude they are NOT BUILDING A NAS!!!
They are building a system to TEST other NAS's Reply
thomas-hrb - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkIt would also be nice to test against some of the other features like for example iSCSI. Also since the Thecus N4800 supports iSCSI, I would like to see that test redone with a slightly different build/deployment.
Create a single LUN on iSCSI. then mount that LUN in the VM like ESXi, create some VM's 20GB per server should be enough for server 2K8R2 and test it that way.
I don't know who would use NAS over SAN in an enterprise shop, but some of the small guys who can't afford an enterprise storage solution (less than 25 clients) might want to know how effectively a small NAS, can handle VM's with advanced features like vMotion and fault tolerance. In fact if you try some of those HP ML110G7 (3 of them with a vmware essentials plus kit) you can get 12 CPU cores with 48GB RAM, with licensing for about 10K. This setup will give you a decent amount of reliability, and if the NAS can support data replication, you could get a small setup with enterprise features (even if not enterprise performance) for less than the lost of 1-tray of FC-SAN storage. Reply
Wixman666 - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkIt's because they want to be able to really hammer the storage system. Reply
The0ne - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - link"The guest OS on each of the VMs is Windows 7 Ultimate x64. The intention of the build is to determine how the performance of the NAS under test degrades when multiple clients begin to access it. This degradation might be in terms of increased response time or decrease in available bandwidth."
12 is a good size, if not too small for a medium size company. Reply
MGSsancho - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - link12 is also a good size for a large workgroup.. Alternatively this is a good benchmark for students in dorms. sure there might be 4-5 people but when you factor in computers using torrents, game consoles streaming netflix along with tvs, could be interesting. granted all of this is streaming except for the torrents and their random i/o. However most torrent clients cache as much of the writes. With the current anandtech bench setup with VMs this can be replicated. Reply
DanNeely - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkThe same reason they need 8 threaded benchmark apps to fully test a Quad-HT CPU. They're testing NASes designed to have more than 2 or 3 clients attached at once; simulating a dozen of them puts the load on the nases up, although judging by the results shown by the Thecus N4800 they probably fell short of maxing it out. Reply
theprodigalrebel - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkWell, this IS Anandtech and the article is filed under IT Computing... ;) Reply
mfed3 - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linksomeone didn't read the title of the article or the article itself. the purpose is to set up a testbed, not build a system with this software target in mind. Reply
Zink - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkAt the same time this system seems extremely over the top for the uses mentioned. It seems likely that the same tests could be run with much less hardware. I know the testbed as specced can be used for much more than testing NAS performance but the only use discussed is simulating the network utilization of a SMB environment.
The SSDs are justified because a single HDD was "not suitable" for 12VMs but it seems there are intermediate solutions such as RAIDing two 512GB SSDs that would provide buckets of performance and a cleaner solution than 14 individual disks. I also do not understand how having a physical CPU core per VM is needed to "ensure smooth operation" if network benchmarking software is I/O bound and runs fine on a Pentium 4. Assuming you really do need 64GB of RAM for shared files and Windows VMs then it seems a 1P 2011 board would be more than up to running these benchmarks. Switch to Linux VMs for Dynamo and you could try running the benches from an even lighter system such as an i7-3770.
On the network side would it not also be possible to virtualize the physical LAN? The clients could connect together over the internal network and the host OS on the tested perform the switch's role and stress the NAS over a single aggregated link? For testing NAS performance specifically, what would the effect be of removing the VMs entirely and just running multiple Iometer sessions over a single aggregated link or letting Iometer use the multiple NICs from the host OS?
NAS benchmarking would be an interesting application to try to optimize a system for. A simpler system would help you out with reducing power consumption, increasing reliability and reducing cost. You could run some experiments by changing the system configuration and benching again to see if the same NAS performance can be generated. Figuring out what other kinds of systems generate the same results would also make it possible for other editors to bench NAS units without having to purchase 14 SSDs.
Sorry for complaining about the system configuration, I know you built it to test other hardware and not as a project in itself but I find the testbed more interesting than the NAS performance. Reply
ganeshts - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkZink, Thanks for your comment. Let me try to address your concerns one-by-one, starting with the premise that the current set of tests are not the only ones we propose to run in the testbed. That premise accounts for devoting a single physical core to each VM.
As for the single disk for each VM vs. RAIDed SSDs, that was one of the ideas we considered. However, we decided to isolate the VMs from each other as much as possible. In fact, if you re-check the build, the DRAM is the only 'hardware component' that is shared.
We didn't go with the 'virtualizing the physical LAN' because that puts an upper limit to the number of clients which can be set up for benchmarking purpose (dependent on the host resources). In the current case, using an external switch and one physical LAN port for each VM more accurately represents real world usage. Also, in case we want to increase the number of clients, it is a simple matter of connecting more physical machines to the switch.
Multiple IOMeter sessions: As far as we could test out / understand, IOMeter doesn't allow multiple simultaneous sessions on a given machine. One can create multiple workers, but synchronizing across them is a much more difficult job than synchronizing the dynamo processes across multiple machines. I am also not sure if the workers on one machine can operate through different network interfaces.
As noted by another reader, 12 VMs haven't been able to max out the N4800 from Thecus. The next time around, we will probably go with the RAIDing 512 GB SSD option for storage of the VM disks. Physical NICs are probably going to remain (along with one physical CPU core or, probably, thread, for each VM). Reply
bobbozzo - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkHi Ganesh,
Could you post power consumption for the server with the CPUs loaded (with Prime95 or whatever)?
I'm thinking of building something like this for a webserver.
Thanks! Reply
ganeshts - Friday, September 07, 2012 - linkPower consumption with Prime95 set for maximum power consumption was 202 W with all CPU cores 100% loaded. Note that the BIOS has a TDP limit of 70W before throttling the cores down.
However, I noticed that RAM usage in that particular scenario was only 4 GB in total out of the 64 GB available. It is possible that higher DRAM activity might result in more power usage. Reply
Stahn Aileron - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkJust out of curiosity, when you run with multiple clients accessing the NAS, are they all running the (exact?) same type of workload? Or is each VM/client set to use a slightly (if not entirely) different workload?
I'm curious since, from a home network PoV, I can see multiple access coming from say:
-One (or more) client(s) streaming a movie (or maybe music)
-Another (or several) doing copy (reads) from the NAS
-Others doing writes to the NAS
-Maybe even one client (I can't really imagine more) doing a torrent (I don't like the idea of a client using a mounted shared network device as the primary drive for torrenting, but you never know. Also, some NASes feature built-in torrent functionality as a feature.)
I'm just wondering how much the workload from each client differs from one another, if at all, when conducting your tests/benchmarks.
Also, for the NASes that do RAID, will you be testing how array degradation and/or rebuilding impacts client usage benchmarks? Reply
ganeshts - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkStahn,
Thanks for your feedback. This is exactly what I am looking at from our readers.
As for your primary question, in our benchmark case, all the VMs are running the same type of workload at a given time. The type of workload is given in the title of each graph.
It should be possible to set up an IOMeter benchmark ICF file with the type of multiple workloads that you are mentioning. I will try to frame one and try to get it processed for the next NAS review.
Ref. array degradation / rebuild process : Right now, we present results indicating the time taken to rebuild the array when there is no access to the NAS. I will set up a NASPT run when rebuild is in progress to get a feel of how the rebuild process affects the NAS performance. Reply
Stahn Aileron - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkGlad to be of some help. To be honest, benchmarking and running tests (troubleshooting) is something I used to do in the Navy as Avionics Technician. I actually do kind of miss it (especially being a tech geek.) Reminiscing aside...
Back on-topic: what I described in my previous post was more of a home user secenario. Is there anything else you would also need/want to consider in a more work-oriented "dissimilar multi-client workload" benchmark/test? If this was a SOHO environment, I would add the following to my previous post:
-DB access (not sure how you want to distribute the read/write workload, though I suppose leaning heavier to reads).
I mention this now because my previous post for read/writes was more along the lines of sequential instead of random. I would guess DB access would be more random-ish in nature.
For other work-oriented scenarios in a "dissimilar multi-client workload" benchmark, I'm not sure what else could be added. I'm mainly just a power-user. I dunno is people would really use an NAS for, say, an Exchange Server's storage or maybe a locally-hosted website. (Some NASes come with Web service funtions and features, no?)
I'm just throwing out ideas for consideration. I don't xpect you to implement everything and anything since you don't have the time to do that. Time is your most precious resource during testing and benchmarking, after all.
Thank you all for running a wonderful website and to Ganesh for a quick reply.
Oh, one last thing: does disk fragmentation matter in regards to NASes? Would it affect NAS perfomance? Do any NASes defrag themselves?
This is more of a long-term issue, so you can't really test it readily I'm guessing. (Unless you happen to have a fragmented dataset you could clone to the NAS somehow...) I haven't heard much about disk fragmentation since the advent of SSDs in the consumer space. That, and higher perfomance HDDs. This is mainly just a curiosity for me. (I do have a more personal reason for my interest, but it's a long story...) Reply
insz - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkInteresting article. Would it be possible to add some pics of the final setup? It'd be interesting to see what the testbed would look like assembled and wired up. Reply
ganeshts - Friday, September 07, 2012 - linkI didn't add the pics to the article because the setup wasn't 'photogenic' after final assembly and placement in my work area :) (as the album below shows). Doesn't matter, I will just link it in this comments section
2012 AnandTech SMB / SOHO NAS Testbed : http://imgur.com/a/h4bQR
Individual images:
http://i.imgur.com/dvmbrh.jpg Reply
dertechie - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkThat is a helluva test bench.
I'd love to see what a HP N40L Microserver does with 4 disks in it if you throw that at it (use the on-motherboard USB port for the OS). It's certainly not a plug-and-play solution like most NAS boxes, but assuming the performance is there it should be a far more flexible one for the money if you throw a *nix based OS on it. Reply
bsd228 - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkI've taken advantage of the 5th internal port of the N36L to add an SSD that is used by ZFS for both read and write caching. Strictly speaking, mirrored write caches are advised, but it's connected to a UPS to eliminate much of that risk.
I think HP has given us the perfect platform for low power, high performance with flexibility. Reply
extide - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkCache? or L2ARC?
Mirrored Cache drives are NOT suggested for ZFS, but Mirrored L2ARC devices are. Reply
coder543 - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkrunning Windows Server......... Reply
ganeshts - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkWhat alternatives do you have in mind?
We needed a platform which was well supported by the motherboard. To tell the truth, I found Hyper-V and the virtualization infrrastructure to be really good and easy to use compared to VMWare's offerings. Reply
ender8282 - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkI assume coder543 was going for a Linux based host, and possibly Linux based clients as well. If you had gone with Linux you wouldn't have needed extra software for SSH or the ram disk. It even looks like IOMeter is supported for Linux. Had you gone that route you likely could have automated the whole task so that it was just a matter of typing go on the host and coming back hours later to collect the results. OTOH most of your audience is probably more likely to be using Windows clients so it probably makes more sense to provide information clearly relevant to the average reader.
I found the article interesting. The one thing that I'd be curious about is whether or not there were any major performance differences using Samba/CIFS type shares vs NFS, or a mixture of the two.
I'd love to see more Linux coverage in general, but I respect that you know your audience and write the articles that they generally want to read.
Great Job keep it up! Reply
Ratman6161 - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkI should run on that platform just great. On the other hand, when all is said and done, as nice as this setup is, to me it is basically a full blown server/virtualization platform; not really a "NAS" at all. I would typically think of a NAS as being a dedicated storage device - possibly used as an IScsi target with the brains of the operation living elsewhere. Reply
ganeshts - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkThis is a testbed for evaluating NAS units, not a NAS. Not sure why readers are getting an impression that this is a NAS by itself. Reply
bsd228 - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkGanesh- I think this test bed sets up very well for testing the $500-1000 4 bay type NAS devices we've been seeing of late that could actually serve a small office. However, I'm less sure that it delivers meaningful data to the home crowd. Like with your SSD tests, I see a place for a "light" load versus the heavy. I think testing against 4 VMs with, for sake of example, the following load types would work:
1- 2 VMs streaming video - 1 DVD, 1 H.264 HDTV - are there any interruptions?
2- 1 VM streaming audio off a mt-daapd (or actual itunes since you're using windows as the server) - again, is there any dropoffs.
3- same VM as #2 is also doing content creation - like importing 1000 RAW images into Lightroom using this storage space
4- last VM is copying large files (or small) to the storage server.
The Thecus 4800 should handle this with ease, but there are many cheaper solutions out there that may or may not meet this level of need. I got so tired of poorly performing consumer units that 4 years ago I switched to an AMD x2 4800 running solaris, and more recently to the HP36L and 40L. At $300 plus $60 for 8 gigs of ECC I think this is a better value than the Thecus for those who can run solaris or even Windows Home Server. You're not reliant on the release of modules to support a particular service.
Also, it seems that all of these benchmarks are based on SMB transfers. It's worth checking to see if nfs and iscsi performance (when made available by the NAS) shows different numbers. In the past, it certainly did, especially on the consumer devices where NFS smoked SMB1. But perhaps this is a moot point with SMB2/windows 7 where it seems like the NIC or the hard drives are the limiting factors, not the transfer protocol. Reply
Rick83 - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkI agreem test the different protocols provided by the devices.
iSCSI, SMB, NFS as well as the media streaming protocols, FTP and whatever else it offers.
If encrypted transfers are offered, test those as well (eg. sshfs / scp).
Additionally, have a look at one of the cluster-ssh solutions, that allows simultaneous connections/commands to all machines. Reply
waldo - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkSome of the biggest problems I have found in running my small business related to NAS's is file integrity under load. Is there a way to see if they have file integrity issues under load? Not just i/o or response times.
Also, it would be interesting to see how their "feature set" holds up under load, as all of the NAS's purport to offer a variety of additional services other than purely file access/storage. Or is that only applicable to your lengthier reviews?
Lastly, most of these nas's don't have version tracking or something similar, so in a media setup, it would be interesting to see how they handle accessing the same file at the same time....can they serve it multiple times to multiple clients? Reply
waldo - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkOne last thought...it would be interesting to see free nas or some other DIY as an alternative. Reply
Peanutsrevenge - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkTop marks!
Bet it was satisfying when the SSH script was comlpete, just press this button and ..... Reply
tygrus - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkHow big a NAS can you test ? Does the server slow it down when testing 7+ virtual client load against NAS ? What is the client/host CPU usage, host system_cpu%, VM overhead ?
Please test the server by running simultaneous tests to multiple NAS. Compare 6 clients alone to 1 NAS at a time with 2 sets of 6 clients to 2 NAS (or 3x4, 4x3). Is there any difference ? Is the test affected by the testbed CPU speed (try using a faster CPU eg. E5-2670) ? Can you test 16 or 24 clients (1 server) with 2 VM / SSD. Might need more RAM ? Now we are getting less SMB / SOHO and more enterprise :) Reply
jwcalla - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkI got a bit of a chuckle out of G.Skill sending you non-ECC RAM. Reply
ganeshts - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkThat is OK for our application :) We aren't running this workstation in a 'production' environment. Reply
bobbozzo - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkCurious, would ECC RAM use noticeably more power? Reply
extide - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkWhy would they bother with ECC ram? Totally un-needed for this application.. Reply
bsd228 - Monday, September 10, 2012 - linkECC is absolutely needed for this application - Data integrity matters, not just data throughput. Reply
bobbozzo - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkPage 2, in the sentence
"Out of the three processors, we decided to go ahead with the hexa-core Xeon E5-2630L"
The URL in the HREF has a space in it, and therefore doesn't work.
Thanks for the article! Reply
ganeshts - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkThanks for unearthing that one.. Fixed now. Reply
ypsylon - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - link14 SSDs. I know it is only to simulate separate clients, but to be honest this whole test is ultimately meaningless. No reasonable business (not talking about 'man with a laptop' kind of company) will entrust crucial data to SSD(s) (in particular non-industry class standard SSDs). Those disks are far too unreliable and HDDs trounce them in that category every time. Whether you like it or not, HDDs are still here and I'm absolutely certain that they will outlive SSDs by a fair margin. Running a business myself and thank you very much HDDs are the only choice, RAID 10, 6 or 60 depending on a job. Bloody SDDs, hate those to the core (tested). Good for laptops or for geeks who benching system 24/7 not for serious job. Reply
ypsylon - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkDang 12 not 14 , ha, ha. Reply
mtoma - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkIf you love so much the reliability of HDDs, I must ask you: what SSD brand have failed you? Intel? Samsung? You know, they are statistics that show Intel and Samsung SSD are much more reliable 24/7 than many Enterprise HDDs. I mean, on paper, the enterprise HDDs looks great, but in reality they fail more than they should (in a large RAID array vibration is a maine concern). After all, the same basic technology applies to regular HDDs. On top of that, some (if not all) server manufacturers put refurbished HDDs in new servers (I have seen IBM doing that and I was terrified). Perhaps this is not a widespread practice, but it is truly terrifying.
So, pardon me if I say: to hell with regular HDDs. Buy enterprise grade SSDs, you get the same 5 year warranty. Reply
extide - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkDude you missed the point ENTIRELY, the machine they built is to TEST NAS's. They DID NOT BUILD A NAS. Reply
Wardrop - Saturday, September 08, 2012 - linkI can't work out whether this guy is trolling or not? A very provocative post without really any detail. Reply
AmdInside - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkIsn't Win7 x64 Ultimate a little too much for a VM? Would be nice to see videos. Reply
ganeshts - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkWe wanted an OS which would support both IOMeter and Intel NASPT. Yes, we could have gone with Windows XP, but the Win 7 installer USB drives were on the top of the heap :) Reply
AmdInside - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkThanks Reply
zzing123 - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkHi Ganesh - Thanks for taking my post a few articles back to heart regarding the NAS performance when fully loaded, as it begins to provide some really meaningful results.
I have to agree with some of the other posters' comments about the workload though. Playing a movie on one, copying on another, running a VM from a third and working of docs through an SMB share on a fourth would probably be a more meaninful workload in a prosumer's home.
In light of this, might it be an idea to add a new benchmark to AnandTech's Storage Bench that measures all these factors?
In terms of your setup, there's a balance to be struck. I really like the concept you're doing of using 12 VM's to replicate a realistic environment in the way you can do. However when an office has 12 clients, they're probably using a proper file server or multiple NAS's. 3-4 clients is probably the most typical set up in a SOHO/home setup.
10GbE testing is missing, and a lot of NAS's are beginning to ship with 10GbE. With switches like the Cisco SG500X-24 also supporting 10GbE and becoming slowly more affordable, 10GbE is slowly but surely becoming more relevant. 1 SSD and 1 GbE connection isn't going to saturate it - 10 will, and is certainly meaninful in a multi-user context, but this is AnandTech. What about absolute performance?
How about adding a 13th VM that leashes together all the 12 SSD's and aggregates all the 12 I340 links to provide a beast of RAIDed SSD's and 12GbE connectivity (the 2 extra connections should smoke out net adapters that aren't performing to spec as well). Reply
Tor-ErikL - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkAs always a great article and a sensible testbench which can be scaled to test everything from small setups to larger setups. good choice!
However i would also like some type of test that is less geared towards technical performance and more real world scenarios.
so to help out i give you my real world scenario:
Family of two adults and two teenagers...
Equipment in my house is:
4 latops running on wifi network
1 workstation for work
1 mediacenter running XBMC
1 Synollogy NAS
laptops streams music/movies from my nas - usually i guess no more than two of these runs at the same time
MediaCenter also streams music/movies from the same nas at the same time
in adition some of the laptops browse all the family pictures which are stored on the NAS and does light file copy to and from the NAS.
The NAS itself downloads movies/music/tvshows and does unpacking and internal file transfers
My guess for a typical home use scenario there is not that much intensiv file copying going on, usually only light transfers trough mainly either wifi or 100mb links
I think the key factor is that usually there are multiple clients connecting and streaming different stuff that is the most relevant factor. at tops 4-5 clients
Also as mentioned difference on the different sharing protocols like SMB/CIFS would be interesting to se more details about.
Looking forward for the next chapters in your testbench :) Reply
Jeff7181 - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkI'd be very curious to see tests involving deduplication. I know deduplication is found more on enterprise-class type storage systems, but WHS used SIS, and FreeNAS uses ZFS, which supports deduplication. Reply
_Ryan_ - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkIt would be great if you guys could post results for the Drobo FS. Reply
Pixelpusher6 - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkQuick Correction - On the last page under specs for the memory do you mean 10-10-10-30 instead of 19-10-10-30?
I was wondering about the setup with the CPUs for this machine. If each of the 12 VMs use 1 dedicated real CPU core then what is the host OS running on? With 2 Xeon E5-2630Ls that would be 12 real CPU cores.
I'm also curious about how hyper-threading works in a situation like this. Does each VM have 1 physical thread and 1 HT thread for a total of 2 threads per VM? Is it possible to run a VM on a single HT core without any performance degradation? If the answer is yes then I'm assuming it would be possible to scale this system up to run 24 VMs at once. Reply
ganeshts - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkThanks for the note about the typo in the CAS timings. Fixed it now.
We took a punt on the fact that I/O generation doesn't take up much CPU. So, the host OS definitely shares CPU resources with the VMs, but the host OS handles that transparently. When I mentioned that one CPU core is dedicated to each VM, I meant that the Hyper-V settings for the VM indicated 1 vCPU instead of the allowed 2 , 3 or 4 vCPUs.
Each VM runs only 1 thread. I am still trying to figure out how to increase the VM density in the current set up. But, yes, it looks like we might be able to hit 24 VMs because the CPU requirements from the IOMeter workloads are not extreme. Reply
dtgoodwin - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkKudos on excellent choice of hardware for power efficiency. 2 CPUs, 14 network ports, 8 sticks of RAM, and a total of 14 SSDS idling at just over 100 watts is very impressive. Reply
casteve - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkThanks for the build walkthrough, Ganesh. I was wondering why you used a 850W PSU when worst case DC power use is in the 220W range? Instead of the $180 Silverstone Gold rated unit, you could have gone with a lower power 80+ Gold or Platinum PSU for less $'s and better efficiency at your given loads. Reply
ganeshts - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkJust a hedge against future workloads :) Reply
haxter - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkGuys yank those NICs and get a dual 10gbe card in place. SOHO is 10Gbe these days. What gives? How are you supposed to test SOHO NAS with each VM so crippled? Reply
extide - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - link10GBe is certainly not SOHO. Reply
Zarquan - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkI might be missing something really obvious here .. but if the highest power consumption was 146.7 W (IOMeter 100% Seq 100% Reads [ 12 VMs ]), then why did you need a 850W power supply ?
Either the system is using a lot more than the 146.7 W you quoted in your power consumption figures, or the power supply is way over specified.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6241/building-the-20... Reply
ganeshts - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkThis is not the only workload we plan to run on the machine.
We were ready to put up with some inefficiency just to make sure we didn't have to open up the machine and put in a more powerful PSU down the road. The 850W PSU should serve the testbed well for future workloads which might be more stressful. Reply
ydafff - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkI'm VCP:5 / 4 and MCSE and MCITP:VA / EA
This setup for 12 VMs way overkill..
Best for this test bad will be VMware vSphere Hypervisor( Free ESXi) – much better memory and vCPU and storage management or MS Hyper-V 2008 R2 free server - try to use free Hyper-V 2008 server much less HD space and compute resources needed
Regarding VMs density you could easy run all 12 VMs(1-2 GB memory) from single Sandy Bridge-E CPU or 1155 Xeon(i7) CPU with really good performance. Storage 2x intel 320 series 600GB SSD in RAID 1(you will need Redundancy) with thin provisioning will do trick. Reply
ganeshts - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkydaff, Thanks for the inputs.
We are working towards increasing the VM density in the current testbed itself. As another reader pointed out, 12 VMs were not enough to stress the Thecus N4800.
I decided not go with the Hyper-V 2008 R2 free server because I needed to run some programs / scripts in the host OS and the Z9PE-D8 WS had drivers specifically for Win Server 2008 R2. Reply
eanazag - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkSeems like a lot of people are talking about it being over the top. I agree with the route Anandtech took - could have even went farther. How far can they be pushed is my question? I want to see when they start smoking NAS's. The article and concept is great. I like to know how the site sets up its test scenarios and equipment. It lets me know if my use case is higher or lower and what the device being reviewd can do. I look at your testing methods to decide if your data is worth considering. I continue to be an avid reader here because of the effort placed. If you had one PC with one NIC, anyone in their house can test it like that. Why even write reviews about NAS's if that is how far you are going to test? Great job, Anandtech.
I have some applications at work I would like to create repeatable tests for. An article about how to automate applications for testing would be helpful. I saw that we got a little in this article. I would also like to see more enterprise equipment being tested if you can swing it. Reply
KingHerod - Friday, September 07, 2012 - linkNAS devices are convenient and generally low-power, but it would be nice to see a comparison to some real metal with a real server OS like Server 2k8R2. Maybe a repurposed older computer with a couple drives mirrored and an actual, low end server with some SAS drives. Reply
dbarth1409 - Friday, September 07, 2012 - linkGanesh,
Good work. I'm looking forward to seeing some future test results. Reply
dijuremo - Monday, September 10, 2012 - linkThis asus motherboard is not truly ACPI compliant, ASUS knows it and they do not want to fix it. Their tech support has given stupid excuses to posts from users trying to run Windows 8 and 2012 server on it.
If you boot either Windows 8 or 2012 server RTM on it, it blue screens with error:
0xA5: ACPI_BIOS_ERROR
You just need to check the reviews at the egg to confirm.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8... Reply
ganeshts - Monday, September 10, 2012 - linkLooks like Asus has updated support files for Windows 8. Reply
VTArbyP - Monday, September 10, 2012 - linkI wonder what would happen if you did use Linux for the host and VM oses? I suppose that would become a test of Linux vs Windows! Heh.
More seriously, why not add at least one VM of "the current popular distro" of Linux and and a Mac OS X machine Use them with NTFS drivers and / or reformat a NAS partition to native ext# and another to HFS+. Point being, how does the NAS react to mixed client loads and not all smb, as someone commented above. The other test this beast seems ideal for is comparisons of several non-local storage solutions - someone mentioned iSCSI, and I can imagine tryiing some types of SANs - might add an infiniband adapter - being of interest. The point of that would simply be to see what form of non-local storage was fastest, best value, easiest to maintain, etc, etc for us mortals who want to connect 6 - 12 machines, We, being the folks who DON'T run lans for a living and are not up to speed on what IT people already know Reply
webmastir - Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - linkHow much did this build cost you guys to test? Reply
garuda1 - Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - linkGanesh, Thank you for this article. You mentioned that ASUS recommended the Dynatron r-17 for the Z9PE-D8 WS. I have this board and its manual, but found no recommendation.My question is: where did you find this recommendation by ASUS? Reply
garuda1 - Saturday, March 30, 2013 - linkganeshts,
Jeff at Dynatron recommends mounting my two R-17s on my ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS board with the airflow blowing toward the rear of the chassis case – which is 90-degrees clockwise from your orientation. However, it appears from your photo that maybe the R-17 will only fit using your orientation which allows the indentation notch in the heatsink fins to straddle and clear the mobo's chipset heatsink. Is your orientation the ONLY way you could get it to fit between the memory sticks and both heatsinks? Thanks. Reply
garuda1 - Saturday, March 30, 2013 - linkganeshts,
Jeff at Dynatron recommends mounting my two R-17s on my ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS board with the airflow blowing toward the rear of the chassis case – which is 90-degrees clockwise from your orientation. However, it appears from your photo that maybe the R-17 will only fit using your orientation which allows the indentation notch in the heatsink fins to straddle and clear the mobo's chipset heatsink. Is your orientation the ONLY way you could get it to fit between the memory sticks? Thanks. Reply


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Aparty is one of the most precious gifts that a parent can give to a child. Memories from a wonderful party can last a lifetime. The guests at this princess doll's party were invited to bring their favorite baby doll to this party.
Best part? Everything was done on a budget! The pink stripe plates came from Hobby Lobby and the yellow ones came from TJMaxx. We found the star wands at Dollar Tree – 12 for a dollar and coud be placed into a cupcake too! Very easy and inexpensive way to add pizzazz! We hope you were able to find lots of fun inspiration in this party – it was a delight to design!
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Does anyone know if the Novalis TX machine will work on this type of cancer?
My dad has now had this for a year and the cancer seems to be growing 1cm every 4 months but hasn't spread anywhere else. He has been told that an operation is out of the question and that chemotherapy could bring on another stroke on the basis that he had one 16 yrs ago. I have heard that this machine works on liver cancer.


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The signature script is indeed excellent. I use it to quickly jump between various locations in source code. I mark lines I want to jump between with markers of a certain type, e.g. a '!'-mark by hitting 'm1' or a '@'-mark by hitting 'm2' and so on. I can easily jump forwards/backwards, say, between all '!'-marked lines with ALT+j/ALT-k when adding:
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Or, I can set the next free alphabetical mark with 'm,' and jump forwards/backwards in alphabetical order with CTRL-j/CTRL-k when adding:
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The display of these marks in the left column is very nice, quick, intuitive and non-cluttered (contrary to what I saw is the default setting in the ShowMarks script).
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"Game changer" is a term you hear often when people talk about how technology has changed their industry.
"Breaking Bad," the popular cable TV show about a high school chemistry teacher turned meth king, completes its run this fall. Given the fact that books were written about the leadership lessons of fictional mob boss Tony Soprano at the height of that show's popularity, it's no surprise that similar analyses are popping up about what can be learned from Walter White, the meth magnate played by Bryan Cranston.
"This is my No. 1 show, by far," Warren Buffett told Buzzfeed. "[Walter White] is a great businessman. He's my guy if I ever have to go toe-to-toe with anyone." Writing in Bloomburg Businessweek, Ben Wasserstein interviewed leadership experts who found some admirable and not-so-admirable management traits in this most unlikeable character:
• Walter is a ruthless negotiator, but he's shortsighted, says Jeswald Salacuse, author of "Leading Leaders: How to Manage Smart, Talented, Rich and Powerful People." His bargaining style maximizes profits — at least for the moment — but inflames rivals.
• Walter can be a nurturing employer. He empowers and trains Jesse Pinkman even though Pinkman is a disinterested, low-performing student.
• Walter fails spectacularly in the area of commitment to ethics and integrity, which is the ninth-most-important factor for employees in the Corporate Executive Board's latest Quarterly Global Labor Market Survey.
• Walter is entirely lacking in self-awareness. Over the course of five TV seasons, he has lost basic empathy and has no idea how much his colleagues and wife loathe him. A survey of the 75 members of the advisory council to Stanford's Graduate School of Business said that self-awareness was the top quality recommended for leaders to develop.
• Walter lacks humility, which "Built to Last" author Jim Collins argues is an essential quality for truly great leadership. In season four, Walter corrects his Drug Enforcement Agency brother-in-law on a fine point of making meth, which ultimately raises the investigator's suspicions.


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I have to create a python script that parses through folders and finds every document with a blah/blah/blah.txt file then I have to open up Microsoft Visual Studio and I have to run a program on VS that uses the .txt files. I can parse through the folders ok, I just don't know how to make it connect to VS. Any help would be great.
Oh, and this application will be ran every night at 11:00pm so I will not be here to run it, so it has to be automated.
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I stumbled into the world of BBQ quite accidentally about 9 years ago. I had just moved down to New Orleans to work with the band Nine Inch Nails, where we had a studio down on Magazine St. We had a big kettle grill, and since I enjoyed a bit of cooking as time away from music, I offered to man the grill for some chicken and chops. Since I was the only one at the studio who could work the grill without charring everything within an inch of its life, I was anointed the grill man for the next 6 years!
I decided to wise myself up to more creative grilling so I bought myself an 18' Weber for my place in the Quarter along with How To Grill and The Barbeque Bible. No sooner did I have time to study the word of Steven that my time had come up in NO, and I had to move back to California. This gave me about a month to study HTG and TBB so by the time I moved into a small house in Hollywood I was ready.
The first thing I was to make was KC Style Ribs. I was using hardwood hickory in my little Weber, no charcoal, so the ribs weren't on but 15 minutes before the fire department showed up!!! I found out quickly that people in Hollywood aren't too keen on the sweet smoke of hickory (at least not the streams I was producing). The ribs came out superb, thanks to Stevens step by step in HTG. I couldn't believe it because this was my first time.
Inspired, I tore into different Raichlen recipes daily (using charcoal and smaller chunks of wood to avoid the FD) prompting people to come over a little bit too much. I had perfected pork and beef ribs, pork butt, jerk chicken, tri-tips (my favs) and smoked goat cheese toasts, smoked olive tapenade, grilled pizza (for my California friends). I got to the point were I was grilling for 30 to 40 people (that's a lot for a musician, not a pro grill master) on holidays, with my grilled pizza lasting no more than 30 seconds off the grill. I still don't know how you pro's do this all summer!
During this time I met a wonderful woman, who was appropriately enough from Kansas City! My wife to be was so over exposed to BBQ growing up that she hated it. Now I believe that faint of heart would have backed off, instead I turned her on to the BBQ I learned in Brazil so we became a happy grilling family. After getting married last October she got me the best Christmas present I've ever gotten: a Blue Weber Performer Grill with One Touch Ignition (after Steven gave it the thumbs up). Boy did I pick the right woman!
Around the beginning of the year we moved back here to my home town of San Francisco, and the Performer has been great even though I'm in the trickiest part of the city temperature wise. I have read over all of Stevens books (I picked up Sauces and USA along the way) so many times the books are falling apart. His writing is almost as good as his recipes (my only 1 big failure was Matambre!). After my first trip to KC with my wife last week, and experiencing the real deal, I finally thought it was time to tell my story on my first 3 years on the Raichlen diet!


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researching goat butchering, have a neighbor who needs help with an aggressive one that's headed for the freezer soon.
Researched ham HF NVIS antennas. Getting close to moving on this...
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Picked up almost 400 lbs of grass-fed beef and pastured pork from a local farm. Going to learn to cure/smoke/dehydrate!
Finally got a great ham radio handheld.
...A quote from the book 'Mataroda' comes to mind:'To do more than your best is impossible, to do less is unthinkable'
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Or stop just short of it and trek for brunch at Frankie's
Pecos is a name I have always associated with the word "wilderness." It's the aspen-filled forest that hovers over the city of Santa Fe, the massive sprawling expanse of green-colored blob on Google Maps, the "Pecos Wilderness." But, it's also a little town just outside of Santa Fe in San Miguel County.
Traveling north on Interstate 25, the road divides snow-lined valleys with cliffs that climb high against the overcast New Mexico sky, powdered white and dotted with tall, deep-green pines. This certainly is wild beauty. Just under 30 minutes from Santa Fe, dive off the high way onto NM-50, a winding road leading to an unassuming parking lot: Frankie's at the Casanova—a name as charming as it is intriguing.
On the outside, Frankie's is a classic pueblo revival style adobe building. The interior looks like the inside of a lodge. The walls are painted off-white, floors are wooden and the chimney is accented with bright orange. From the ceiling hang several glass and metal chandelier cages. On the back wall, two huge animal pelts—a bear and a mountain lion—flank the sides of a giant moose head mounted above the mantel, mouth agape, as if at any moment it might cry out.
The pelts, I'm told by a staff member, were from animals hunted by a local man, and the moose head by one of the owners, Brian Sandoval.
The building was constructed over a three-year period from 1908-11, and has been used for many things over the years. It has served as a rest stop, a convenience store, several restaurants and even as a courthouse and jail, although no one seems to know how this particular arrangement of the space worked.
Frankie's, owned by Sandoval and Bob Cleary, is named after Sandoval's deceased younger brother. At one point Frankie's was located down the street from its current location as a coffee shop. When the partners wanted to expand, they bought the building that was known as "the Casanova." Sandoval's brother and nephew Orlando, who also passed away young, are both featured in the wooden painted relief that proudly hangs in the dining room.
The locale is open from 8 am to 2 pm, Monday through Sunday for lunch and breakfast. Dinner is served on Fridays and Saturdays from 5:30 to 8:30 pm. Frankie's also does special buffet-style meals on Thanksgiving and Mother's Day.
The breakfast menu has all the things you'd expect. Prices for breakfast entrées range from $4.95 to $9.95. There's also a full coffee bar menu (including bottomless coffee for $1.95), with drinks better than what most restaurants in town offer.
The food is definitely "stick to your ribs" Southwestern comfort food. The flavors, not smothered in cheese or chile, are distinctive and satisfying. The most popular item on their menu, the chicken enchilada casserole ($9.95) is probably the only enchilada dish I've ever enjoyed. The potatoes that come on the side of almost every breakfast entrée are well-seasoned, with a delicious molten center and an interesting, almost dehydrated texture. There is nothing greasy about the food, as my friend so succinctly put it "you don't feel like you need to have an angioplasty after you eat."
The ham steak and eggs ($8.25) is simple and straightforward. What you order is exactly what you get.
I highly recommend that when you take a day trip, you make the trek for brunch at Frankie's at the Casanova. Daily lunch specials might also tempt you with fare that ranges from steak enchiladas to salmon salad.
Frankie's is a perfect example of what the city folk miss out on. It is a place with a story, a place with heart. Not only is there unaffected and genuine charm, but the staff is warm and welcoming. Pecos might be a trip, but it is worth the drive for the food and the folks who will happily greet you when you arrive.
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Superintendent John Huppenthal announced that Molly E. Edwards was named public information officer for the Arizona Department of Education on May 21, replacing Andrew LeFevre.
With more than 14 years experience in government affairs and media relations, Edwards served as manager of the City of Scottsdale's Community Mediation Program and subsequently the Housing Resources Program. Most recently she served as Marketing Manager at the law firm of Polsinelli Shughart.
Superintendent Huppenthal announced, "Molly is a great addition to my team at the Department of Education. Her passion for education, dedication to public service and experience working with the media are strong assets. I am extremely pleased to have someone of Molly's caliber on my team."
Her background includes a term as president of the World Affairs Council of Arizona and completion of the Global Leadership Executive Program at the Thunderbird Garvin School of International Management. She is a recent graduate of the Flinn-Brown Civic Leadership Academy, as well as a graduate of the FBI Citizens Academy, Valley Leadership and Scottsdale Leadership. In 2007, she was chosen by the Phoenix Business Journal as one of its "40 under 40" honorees.
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WORCESTESHIRE will get a touch of summer over the next couple of days with warm temperatures and some good spells of sunshine.
But it will be the calm before the storm in the county, with heavy, thundery downpours expected on Saturday which could last for most of the day.
The Met Office has issued a yellow weather warning for rain in the West Midlands and a warning of the potential for localised flooding, but said at this stage the location of the heaviest rainfall is uncertain.
Paul Michaelwaite, of netweather.tv in Pershore, said today (Thursday) there would be sunny spells and temperatures in the high teens.
"There won't be completely blue skies but there should be sun about," he said. "There will be some decent spells of sunshine with an outside risk of a shower but it will be light and hopefully won't even come near us.
"It will be about the same tomorrow (Friday). Cloud will thicken during the day. We might even get up to 20C or 21C."
But he warned things would go down hill on Saturday with heavy thundery rain and maybe even thunder storms.
"It will be quite a soggy one," he said. "We might miss the worst but it doesn't look too pleasant. There's a risk of flash flooding. There could be a sizeable amount of rain in a short amount of time."
The weather expert said the worst of the downpours would be over by Sunday.
"It will stay fairly warm into the weekend, but out in the rain it won't feel particularly pleasant," he added.
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We are sorry to inform you, that Major "Infirmary" Tikey, previously known as "Diesel" Tikey, was confirmed KIA. To the regret of central command, we did not realize that she is unfit for active duty until it was too late. Being close to death against an unspeakable enemy on more than half a dozen occasions took a terrible toll to her mental condition. In the field she would panic easily and on two occasions opened fire on a fellow soldier. As you know, friendly fire is a grim reality of war and accidents can happen. However, on her second to last mission she turned around and fired at our designated sniper for no apparent reason, for which she was pulled from active duty for one month.
Her last mission brought her to China to extract a VIP. Once the VIP was in sight, so was a swarm of aliens. After being poisoned Major Tikey lost her nerves, fired seemingly at random enemies and refused to take orders. Despite being under heavy plasma fire and sustaining multiple wounds she took out at least four charging aliens. With the last of her ammunition spent, she succumbed to the poisoning, while the rest of the squad escorted the VIP to the skyranger for extraction.currently playing: Assetto Corsa
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Major Tikey was my highest ranking officer that I lost in combat. A severe blow for the troops. She will be missed.
Ladies and Gentlemen, my team prepared for the last mission:
Whatever the outcome may be, it was a pleasure to serve with all of you.
... and done. Colonel Oshada landed the killing blow and Lasikbear saved the world. DarkFenix and Alec Meer almost got killed (DarkFenix almost by Alec Meer and Alec almost by Drayk - remember: being a psyker doesn't mean you can't be mind controlled). Apart from Drayk everyone who came out did so with only a few hitpoints left. I think the hitpoints the squad had in total were not even what Oshada usually has all by himself. Well done team.
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With all the Sheep tags they already give out, who thinks they should start to give out some of them for the Stick-and-String hunters. What are your thoughts?
With all the Sheep tags they already give out, who thinks they should start to give out some of them for the Stick-and-String hunters. What are your thoughts?
Here in Colorado there are a few archery only tags, but archery gear is legal means for a rifle tag. I have applied for rifle tags in units I would love to hunt using a bow. Since sheep tags don't have the same rules around blaze orange as deer and elk, there is really no reason for a true archery hunter not to entertain using stick and string for a rifle tag. I just wish it were easier to draw in general!
I agree, but archery tags might make it a little easier to draw.
archery sheep and goat! i have bumped into those bad boys a few times wishing i had a tag its a good way for ndow to make some quick cash if we look back at sucess rates on deer there pretty low(nevada). i wouldnt imagine sheep and goat being any where near those stats.
I wish MT would go to weapons-specific tags for sheep as well. The odds in MT are just awefull, even for those of us with max points.
Sounds like someone needs to talk to the DOW's!
Why should I, using more primitive equipment, have to be placed in the same pool as rifle hunters. I'd have to compete with them, and it would take me just as long to draw a tag. So I would have no benefit from taking that disadvantage.
And why do you think you should have an advantage? Hunters should group together and support each other, not want something special for "their" group.
I support keeping sheep tags as general tags, without weapon restrictions. I may very well use a bow, muzzleloader, or rifle, depending on the tag drawn. I don't need a special allotment just for one weapon type.
Why should I have an advantage? I don't see how I would be taking an advantage by using a bow while you go and shoot your sheep at 10-15 times the distance I would shoot mine. Why should the bowhunter be put in a pool with the other hunters. They do it for deer, elk, antelope etc. Do you disagree with that too?


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DETROIT - It's the video everybody is talking about parolee Kwame Kilpatrick inside a Chesterfield Township Walmart on December 11th.
He is seen counting cash in the video. Kilpatrick was at the store to collect a $2,000 money order.
He kept $800 dollars from that money order and he sent $1,200 to another Walmart in Texas.
The next day Kilpatrick paid his $500 dollar restitution to the state of Michigan.
Read: Will $2,000 send Kilpatrick back to prison?
Typically a parolee getting a money order would not be no big deal but, under Kilpatrick's parole conditions he must report all income and gifts.
"For the month of December he reported zero income and zero gifts. So, the fact we have video surveillance he did receive money and we see him put it into his pocket and he failed to report it to his parole agent and it would be a violation of his parole," said Russ Marla Department of Correction spokesperson.
The money came from a Chicago pastor named Corey Brooks.
"We gave him a gift we got a letter he requested help. He was one of many people we helped for Christmas," said Brooks in a phone interview on Tuesday.
Remember the house Kilpatrick lived in, the life of luxury he has been living?
"I can honestly tell you I have no idea where he lives, what kind of car he drives, that is not my reason for helping him or not helping him, " said Brooks.
Outside of federal court today the parolee told reporters he should not comment on something so trivial.
Being that I'm Kwame Kilpatrick and this is Detroit and the rules are different for me it's defiantly something we want to make sure we stay on the right side which we are its not against any of the special conditions that I have," said Kilpatrick outside of court when asked about the money order.
" He's been on parole for a year and a half he knows his obligations. The trend the trouble we see here, is he goes all the way out to northeastern Macomb County to do this transaction, fails to report income to his agent, his agent was aware of it made some inquiries into it and he still said he received no gifts, he was asked several times and no was his answer several times, " said Marla.
"Hopefully it can be something that can be explained and will go away," said Kilpatrick
The department of corrections say it will need to investigate and may need to hold a parole violation hearing in regards to the non-reporting of the money order caught on camera.
The issue could possible return Kilpatrick to prison
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I have downloaded an excel sheet from "Links to your site" option of Google Webmaster Tools.
Now how to identify which links are dead and which are nofollow.There is any way to find dead links from the list becuase there are many links in the excel sheet and very hard to find few dead links from them.
It can be done only manually as I know
For no-follow links use tools like Smallseotools, and for dead link you can check broken links, or again use smallseotools for broken links, because as Google Caches our site the data in webmaster gets changes accordingly.
I can't say I've ever looked into this in detail, but as reputable search engines do not follow "nofollow" links, I would expect none of the links listed by Google to be "nofollow".
Dead links are links where the target page doesn't exist. The easiest way to find these on your site is to look at any 404 errors and check to see whether those pages no longer exist.
Hello You can check out the following link for your problem:
Hello, if you want to find dead & nofollow links you can check out smallseotools & backlink checker.
If you want dead link through google webmaster then click the site traffic tab and check the external back link of your site which link have not any live information regarding your domain that link is a dead link.
I use ahrefs.com to check nofollow links because find such links in Google Webmaster Tool is difficult. You should visit "Crawl Errors" section in Google Webmaster Tool to know dead or 404 errors links.
ahrefs.com for free is limited some features, I think smallseotools is more powerful for Backlink Checker! If your blog is developed on WordPress, you can use Brokenlink checker plugin for checking/removing dead links.
Thanks to all who replied.
As the question has been answered, and the OP has never returned, I think it's time to close this thread.


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This may well be daft, but I thought I'd take the announcement about the new forums and its request we introduce ourselves literally. So here we go.
...and now that I've started, this feels very odd. Ah well.
My name is Kevin Veale, I'm a PhD student of Media Studies at the University of Auckland in New Zealand. I've written a Masters Thesis on storytelling in videogames, and a PhD on comparative storytelling in various digital media forms including videogames. I've been delighted to see the Sunday Papers articles about feeling in games, since that's pretty much the direction I've been going too. I lecture a summerschool paper about games and game culture because I am Incredibly Lucky.
Becoming a game academic was a great self defence for loving games yet remaining rubbish at them.
I've been reading RPS for several years. I wasn't in on the ground floor, but I was pointed at it by a friend (I think) within the first few months.
It's been a great resource for me, and I've been referencing articles left-right-and-center. Hell, I've written up a draft for a journal article which I realised is entirely devoted to games I only learned about from RPS.
(cue background clickery involving money.)
Well, if nothing else, this post has reminded me that I intended to become an RPS subscriber months ago, and forgot because I'm a Goddamned Genius.
I think the game which made the biggest impression on my formative years was Starcontrol 2, which I'm delighted to see has made it onto GoG.com as well as the glorious effort that is the Ur-Quan Masters. At some point I might do a more detailed rant about it.
Uh. Hmm. I guess that's it. Oh yeah: because I clearly decided that the life of a penniless academic raving in the streets about fireants and communism wasn't a big enough challenge, I'm a fiction writer.
I think that's where I sign off. I'm @krveale on Twitter if anyone's interested in bibblings about games, fiction, relevant academic wank and the like.
Hopefully the whole concept of an introductions thread wasn't a total gag... or that it's in the right place.
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Heh, loving the self-deprecating tone. No need to be ashamed, it was entertaining


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IT is the last call for fitness fans to join in the 'Scenic Six' annual run around a village near Pershore.
The event is named after the six-mile multi-terrain run which takes place around the lanes, fields and footpaths of Peopleton on Sunday, April 6.
For those who would like a less strenuous day out, there is an alternative two-mile fun run, jog or walk around the village starting at 11am.
More than140 people have already signed up for the popular event which is raising money for St Richard's Hospice in Worcester.
Entry is £10 for the six-mile run, or £12 on the day and £3 for the two mile route.
Lizzie Brazier, St Richard's Hospice Community Fundraiser, said: "This is a great family event which is suitable for people of all ages.
"Whether you're a keen runner or just fancy a nice walk through the countryside, there is a route for everyone."
The deadline for online entries only Monday or people can just sign up on the day.
For details or to register, visit strichards.org.uk/Events/scenicsix.


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I really don't know if there's going to be any MLB Gameday play-by-play, but if not, you can follow along with Florida Southern's Live Stats. I don't believe there will be a radio broadcast of the game, which is scheduled to begin at 1:05 PM.
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- Details
- Water-based formulation won't cause stinging, burning or itching.
- So gentle it can be used right after shaving.
- Helps even the appearance of skin tone.
- Quick-drying formula won't leave white residue on skin or clothing.
Dermatologist Tested & Approved
Allergy Tested, Non Irritating, Fragrance Free, Dye Free, Gluten Free, No Animal Testing
Formulated & Filled in the U.S.A.
Please Recycle
- Reviews
Customer Reviews
- loved it Review by khawla
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will never switch to any other product i really loved it and it really does what it written on it, highly recommended!
- The only antiperspirant I will ever use! Review by Krshna
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I have been using this for 2 years now and although expensive, it's worth every penny.
It brightens and my armpit stays dry all day, one bottle lasts me for 5-6 months.
The only downside is that the product leaks through the roll-on ball whenever I shake it which is still a a waste of product
- Works as advertised Review by Rhonda
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No residue. Good odor control. Doesn't stain clothes and brightens underarms!
- Best antiperspirant Review by Adrian
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Does what it says on the tin. Will never switch to anything else
- Awesome product! Review by PattyP
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This antiperspirant really worked, it kept me dry and it made my dark underarms (from burns from waxing) light again! I loved it so much i bought some for my daughter as well and she loved it.
- Total Nonscents Ultra-Gentle Brightening Antiperspirant Review by ilse
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Really great antiperspirant. Stays dry and no residue. Does brighten a bit. The only antiperspirant I will ever use.
- The best! Review by Cynthia
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This deodorant has solved all my problems. I stay dry, have no stains on my clothing, and no skin irritation. It is pricey but nothing else I tried worked.
- Works but Pricey Review by Le
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Don't love how it goes on wet but it dries quickly. It works and doesn't stain your clothes. Love how it works but yet doesn't compete with your perfume.
- Happy girl Review by Yojip
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I was so glad to finally find rhe product that is right for me. My underarm skin is so sensitive with other deodorants that I always end up having allergic reactions to these the reason why the skin has discolored very much. I perspire a lot and so maybe causes the bad odor, so embarrassing! Thanks to Total Nonscents! I've been so patient with using this, it's been over a year & I see really good results!
- Liquid Gold Review by Kiwi
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There's no doubt that this product works at brightening/lightening your underarms. I went through 2 bottles and I was 100% pleased with the results. My armpit and the skin tone of the rest of my body is now the same shade (no more dark pits). The other thing I really loved about this product is that it left no white residue at all after drying, so I could raise me arm confidently knowing there'd be no white stuff showing. It unfortunately doesn't give all day anti-perspiration, and arm pits could start smelling a bit before the end of the work day. I haven't used it for over a year now and my arm pits have not gotten back dark.
- expensive Review by adita
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I didn't see results
- very surprised Review by rapunzel
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After only using one bottle, I notice a difference in the discoloration. The darkness has seen the light!!! My underarms are much lighter...even my mom noticed the difference. This was the first product i tried to lighten the area and I am very pleasantly surprised by how well it worked. By the end of the day, the antiperspirant wears off but i still recommend this product.
- 3 year after using this Review by Jennifer
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After 3 years, I noticed my underarms got SOOO much lighter from how dark it was from shaving it continuously and using the stick deodorant. One of my underarm is still dark but one of them is the same color as my skin( tiny bit dark b/c of the hair underneath after shaving) but otherwise good product. but don't think that ONLY this will make the darkness completely gone. It works in the aspects of odor and less wetness
- I LIKE Review by MARCELO
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- amazing product unbelievable Review by PP,Jacksonville,Fl
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i've been using this product for 2mos, it had lightened my underarm about 40%. i am so pleased with result. i have tried many chemicals, deodorants, chemical peel but it just come back after you stop using it.with this deo you can use it for a long time until you achieved your desired goal. it takes forever to dry it but i have found a technique to dry it fast, after applying rub your pit with your fingers for faster absorption,dries in an instant. i don't smell at all. the antiperspirant effect doesn't seem to work though for me. but still i recommend it. pricey but worth it. i will contniue to use it, they say takes minimum of 6mos, i'll see. i keep you posted after 4mos.
- MA Review by MARCELO
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- Great product, no residue or fragrance Review by Ro
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This by far is one of the best products. My underarms feel great and it does not have any fragrance. It's very pricey but sometimes it's the little daily items you should splurge on. Haven't used long enough for brightening to take effect.
- It works! Review by Ophelia
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Only a week of using this product and I've already noticed a change in my underarms. It's a lot lighter. This product is awesome!
- Does what it says Review by Jen
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I've been using this product for 2 years and it has lighten my underarms so much but this product takes time and you have to be patient to see results! Thanks TOTAL nonscents' because the other antiperspirant actually makes my underarms more dark. However its quite expensive but this thing lasts me for 10 months. so its not that pricy if you think about it.
- Improvement Review by Christy
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I've always had darkening under my armpits and it's been a challenge to overcome all my life. This product keeps me dry and during the past 2 months that I've tried it, it looks like it's working. I can tell that my underarm looks a bit lighter, not completely light yet but I think there's been a change. I'm gonna try to be patient and continue using this product for at least one year and hopefully there will be a dramatic change. I've tried other skin lightening products before and this one seems to be the most promising.
- so-so Review by chunli
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Not so sure bout this product
- its ultra-gentle brightening antiperspirant Review by chickae akikoh
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i used two bottles already and my second one is almost empty. been trying to find it in stores at ULTA but only gorilla antiperspirant was available. Hope they will have more items in store.
Overall, I am so happy with this product!
- Unbelievable, it really works! Review by JH, Los Angeles, CA, USA
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I have been plagued with extremely dark discoloration on my underarms and would never wear anything that might show my embarrassment, now in my 30's I have discovered something that is acutally working. I have only been using the product for 1 1/2 weeks and I can already see a huge difference, I am very excited to see what the future brings. The brightener does not irratate, no residue build-up, and keeps me fresh.
- Great product Review by T.T., Stockton, CA USA
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I saw an article on this product in Instyle magazine and purchased it. It has done an excellent job in fading the discoleration on my underarms.
- It's a Life Saver! Review by E.H., Baltimore, MD USA
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I first read about this product in a magazine - the woman said it was actually able to help with underarm discoloration. I couldn't believe it! I'd been having problems with discolored, darkened, skin for years and had problems in the past with my senstivity to many antiperspirants. I had nothing to lose. I'm so glad I purchased this product. I've been using it for 6 months, and the difference is incredible!
- Finally an end to a long battle! Review by TB, Brooklyn, NY
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I have been using "Total Nonscents" for almost a month now, and I can see my underarm darkness gradually fading away for the first time in years! My discoloration began as a teenager. I use to shave to remove the hair from my underarms resulting in red "itchy" patches of "irritation". I used depilatory creams to remove the hair (hairs grow back softer-no itching). Now a pro at this method of hair removal-it doesn't erase the scars from the past. The transition was rough, leaving the cream on for too long at times caused "inflammation & irritation"-red raw patches. As a result, I would get dark patches under my arms once the "irritation" healed-deodorants added to the problem with more stinging & burning in both cases! I still wore tank tops etc. I didn't find it embarrassing at all- I'm a woman of color & most of us get dark spots & blemishes. Its way more embarrassing to have "hair" under your arms than "dark spots", where I come from. However, I eventually began to admire the celebrities/models- & their "even toned underarms" on TV, movies & magazines and I'd wonder, "How did their underarms get so smooth & pretty?" Finally, I saw this product online & thought "EXPENSIVE-but worth a try". This product actually works. My problem lasted for years but I think in a few months my underarm darkness will actually be gone. EXPENSIVE but well WORTH it!
- One minus for the product! Review by RB, Long Island, NY
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Like many who use this product-I too have been trying to get rid of my underarm discoloration for a long time now. I recently started using Total Nonscents and overall the product does what it says. The one minus this product should look into improving is that it is not good in keeping "odor" under control. I still have to use DEORDORANT! I would like for the product to become an all in one ANTI-PERSPIRANT, DEORDORANT, & FADE COMPONENT. This will eliminate the need for deodorant.
- LOVE IT! Review by CAM, Paramount, CA USA
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I'm in my 40's and just started developing dark discoloration in my underarm area. I was freaked out! I started scrubbing and making the problem worse. I was searching the internet for solutions and found The DERMAdoctor! I am now ordering my 2nd bottle of the Total NonScents Ultra Gentle Brightening Antiperspirant. I gave this product a "4" only because it is expensive, but it is also a great solution. Give this product a try if you are plagued with dark underarm area.
- Great product that really works! Review by EM, Boston, MA USA
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For many years I have had a dark underarm discoloration and was always embarrassed to wear tank tops or even lift my arms when wearing loose t-shirts. I have tried many deodorants that were aimed at sensitive skin or have all natural ingredients, but they never alleviated my problem. I found Dermadoctor through a google search and read these reviews. Although the product is expensive, it is well worth the money. I have been using it for 1.5 weeks and my underarm skin is almost the same color as the rest of my skin. On my skin, it does not dry instantly, but I just evenly spread the anti-perspirant over the areas that I want to be lightened and it is fine. The product also does a great job as an anti-perspirant. I really love this product, and if anyone has underarm discoloration I highly recommend this product.
- UNBELIEVABLE RESULTS Review by L.H., BALTIMORE, MD
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I have only ben using this product for a week, and boy am I surprised. I have very bad underarm skin due to scars from boils, and shaving irritation. I've tried everything, and nothing has seemed to work but this. I would definitely recommend this product to anyone struggling with dark underarm skin.
- It works Review by A.K., Rockwood, MI
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I have been using this product for about 3 weeks now. I have noticed a small difference. I read the website and it said it may take up to 6-9 months to get desired results. I am willing to keep on trying this product. I wish it was cheaper though.
- A miracle I thought would never come! Review by L.A.F. , Cleveland, OH USA
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Thank you so much for this excellent product! After only 2 months, my underarm discoloration has disappeared almost completely...after 2 years of embarassment! I'm so thrilled and know that your product is gentle on my skin (no stinging or sensitivity!) and yet so effective. Thank you for truly delivering on your claims and I look forward to trying more of your great products!
- Finally, an antiperspirant that works and helps underarm darkness Review by M.Z., San Francisco, CA
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I've never been able to wear any type of deodorant or antiperspirant because of my eczema, I would always develop a rash, resulting in darkness in my underarms. Ever since I've been using DERMAdoctor Total NonScents Ultra-Gentle Brightening Antiperspirant (for the past 2 months now), there is a significant difference; my armpits are no longer dark and my eczema hasn't acted up. I would highly recommend this product if you have eczema. The only problem I had with this product is if I left it on overnight, it would get too drying and become itchy. Other than that, it's an excellent product.
- Wow! Review by A.R., New York
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I love this product! I always was a bit self conscience of my discolored underarms. I was horrified to see them in a picture of myself with raised arms hugging a friend..so dark and ugly! I've been using this product for two months now and the difference is amazing!! My underarms match the rest of my skintone. Very well worth the price. I also find that waxing underarms is much better than shaving and will never go back. Thank you DermaDoctor!
- It works! Review by L.B, Clarksville, TN
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This product is wonderful. Since I can remember, I've been very self- conscious of my underarm discoloration, thinking no one else suffered the same embarrassment. Though I was skeptical, I tried it anyways...and let me just say that now I can freely raise my arms with joy and in public. By the end of two months, my underarms are clearer and brighter than what it started with. Another benefit is that it kept my underarms drier for longer period ot time that other antiperspirant I've used. Thank you for this amazing product.
- It Works! Review by ML, Columbia, SC
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I have suffered from embarassing dark armpits since the birth of my 11 year old daughter. This product has significantly brightened and lightened this area in 4 wks. Plus it's the strongest yet gentlest antiperspirant. Clean dries quick, I love it!
- Wow! Still skeptic? Highly recommended!!!! Review by tais-tais, Minnesota
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I started developing underarm discoloration since my teens, and would be embarrassed everytime I wore tanks or sleevless shirts. Finally after three kids, I really wanted to do something about it. I was skeptic of this product at first, however the reviews convinced me to try it myself. For less than $30 bucks, I've found a priceless product that works miracles for underarm discoloration! Even my husband agrees that this has helped improve in lightening my armpit area and self-esteem. I'm sooo proud of this product, now that I can wear tanks/sleeveless shirts and raise my arms up with comfort. I don't write reviews, however this one is definitely worth sharing. I highly recommend it!!!
- Seriously - this really works Review by KJ, Hayward, CA
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I couldn't believe how much lighter my under arms were after using 1 bottle. My underarms have been dark for years and I have just given up on lifting my hands up high. Now, since they are lighter I have been buying sleevelss tops!!! Ladies, it's so easy and for the price you are getting a skin lightner and a deoderant that works better than any deoderant you will find on the shelf.
- great product! Review by JL, Houston, TX
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i had spent years being distressed about underarm discoloration when i stumbled upon this product. i was doubtful at first, but after reading so many good reviews i have decided to give it a try. and it works! i've been using it for almost two months now and i can see already see a huge difference. it's a bit expensive but i think it's worth it.
- Finally found what I was looking for Review by Springfield, VA
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I am amazed at the results! So I had to share. I've been using it for 6 months now and the tiny spot on my underarm has lightened up my skin tone tremendously. I'll keep on using it until it's nonexistent. I think it'll be even out in a month or two. Since I have just a little spot, I use a q-tip to smear this on. I was very skeptical about purchasing it since I've used other products that claim would even out skin discoloration but have been unsuccessful. It's definitely worth it.
- WoW...it really works Review by Portland, OR USA
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I've been using this product for almost 5 months and it made the discoloration disappear...I never thought I'll ever get rid of it until I started using dermadoctor and this product will last you awhile....I love it! Thank You!
- Love this product! Review by Chicago, il
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I have been using this for about one month and its made my underarm skim lighter and more moisturized. No more dry and flaky skin
- It's working already Review by S.P.Y., Cypress, CA
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I started using this about 3 weeks ago and already I notice a huge difference. I was so embarrassed of my dark underarms that I would never wear sleeveless tops. I still have a way to go but the difference it very noticable. The only thing I don't like it that it takes awhile to dry.
- still working... Review by USA
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ordering my second bottle now...and it should do the trick. it has been a very slow and gradual process, but i don't feel as self-conscious anymore about the underarm discoloration. I put 4 flasks for now...though probably by my second bottle, i'll be at a 5!
- Great at brightening Review by Happy !! to have even skin, Los Angeles, CA
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Well, I never thought that this product would actually work. It just seemed too good to be true. I have had discoloration under my arms since I started shaving at 12. Now I'm 25. That's over 12 years of shaving discoloration, but this product really does work. It has made a big difference in my underarms in only 3 weeks. I even showed my mother my underarms and she has ordered her own bottle. The only drawback is that if you have any issues with underarm odor, this product is not good at keeping those odors under control. I just at use a mild deodorant in addition to this product and it works just fine. That why I have given it 4 flasks instead of 5. But I'll be bathing suit and tank top ready for summer because of DermaDoctor and I will be buying some more of this wonder in a bottle.
- IT'S A KEEPER FOR SURE! Review by canada
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I've tried many antiperspirants but sometimes I still feel my underarms sweat. But with this product my underarms remain dry even after an exercise or any strenuous activities. At first I tried it to whiten my underarms. And it works! Plus I get a bonus for keeping it dry all the time. I've been using this for 3 months now. And I will stick to this one. This is really a keeper!
- Really works!!! Review by Rebekah,Raleigh, VA USA
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I'm a cheerleader, and our uniform is one of those armpit-showing cheer tops. I have really discolored armpits and I was willing to try ANYTHING to fix them. Luckily, my aunt told me about this product, and in two weeks I had silky-smooth, undiscolored armpits. This product is a little pricey, but TOTALLY worth the cash!
- No changes yet... Review by AM, Canada
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I've been using this product for 3.5 months and haven't seen any changes yet. The lightening aspect, which is why I bought the expensive product has still not kicked in. But, the instructions do say to wait 6-9 months, so I will, but just thought I should point out that by the 3 month mark -- after using the product every day twice a day -- there's still no difference. Will definitely provide an update at the 6 and 9 month mark.
- MIRACLE PRODUCT! Review by KDR, Jacksonville, AR USA
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I tried out Veet and ended up chemically burning my underarms 2 years ago- after that everything I used broke them out and I would wake up in the middle of the night itching them then they would be in so much pain and they were very red and swollen- nothing worked. My doctor suggested this product. I figured I had tried everything else- and I was so pleased! I am a FAITHFUL user and now my once very dark scared skin is fair like the rest of my skin! I am even going to switch to the non-lightening kind when I buy the next bottle!
- This is a blessing!!! Review by mm, WPM, FL
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I have had discoloration from chemicals that were prescribed to me like Xerac AC and botox and it has left discoloration on my skin. I have also suffered from odor and this product has really worked a miracle on me. I would recommend this product to anyone who has hyperhydrosis also.
- Wonderful gentle antiperspirant Review by New York
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I hated shaving my underarms as I would get irritated red itchy skin. I knew it was my other antiperspirant I was using. So I tried this and now on my 3rd bottle. It doesn't last as long so that is why I am giving it 4 stars and it is pricey. I can apply this right after shaving. I haven't noticed lightening yet but hopefully in a few more months.
- HHHHHMMMMM Review by pink, roma, texas
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I ordered this a few weeks ago I was expecting for this product to be great. it is not what i expected I am from texas and I usually don't sweat much just doing my house work with central air with the little sweat I get this funky smell in underarms. the pro side i am not irritated but i would of wished it would of worked. for the price i don't recomend it.
- Perfect! Review by SBA, Orange County, CA
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My underarm discoloration stressing was always secondary to my stressing about perspiration odor and wetness. Nothing ever lasted throughout the day, and for many years I carried deodorant in my purse for application several times a day. Of course, this irritated my underarm skin, and eventually left it darkened and bumpy. After I used Total Nonscents Brightening for six weeks, I honestly could barely believe the results. They seemed too good to be true...No perspiration, odor, funky perfumey attempt at odor cover-ups, or discoloration! I apply this once a day, after my shower, and...that's it! I no longer schlep embarrassing bottles of deodorant around, and I don't even worry about raising my arms. As if that wasn't enough, one bottle lasts 3x as long as any other deodorant product I'd ever used. Total Nonscents is amazing. One little product can make a huge difference!
- Great Antiperspirant Review by CRYSTAL, NEW YORK CITY
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I brought this product in July 2010 after reading all these positive reviews and I was pleasantly surprised by the result. This product works EXCEPTIONALLY well for wetness and odor! This has been the ONLY item I have used that completely stops the underarm wetness and odor. However, the Brightening portion hasn't worked so well. I used the product for almost 3 months and could not see a change in the dark spots. I then begin using DERMADOCTOR Total NonScents in addition to a Dark Spot Remover (High Time Tone Repair). I now have CLEAR DRY underarms!!!!
- does what it says on the packaging Review by LP, Lowestoft, England
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I've had dark underarms since I hit puberty 12 years ago...that's half of my whole life! I've tried several products that promised results but never got them; only ended up with nasty reactions (inflamed, itchy, and one product made my underarms darker!). I bought this product and started using it in March 2010. After 10 months, I didn't see any noticable results. I got frustrated, but then I thought that maybe the way I removed underarm hair contributed to the problem (I use a mains operated epilator). I started waxing three weeks ago and I can now see noticable results. I hope that in a few months' time, I will get underarms that are the same colour as my all over skin tone. Great product! Highly recommended!
- it does work!!! Review by KM, Freeport, NY USA
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I was amazed at how well this works! it made my underarms softer and after about two weeks my dark underarms lightened already! no more irritation! the only complaint is that it takes forever to dry!
- Expected more Review by A.V., Los Angeles, Ca USA
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Used this product for over a year and didn't see any results in brightening underarms. Works well for wetness protection and liked that it's unscented.
- Yes, this works! Review by Stockton, CA
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I used one bottle Total NonScents for nearly a year now. Along with laser hair removal, my underarms very slowly and subtly lightened up. I am less conscientious about revealing my underarms.
- LIFESAVER Review by K. Douglas, Little Rock, AR
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After I chemically burned my underarms with Veet 5 years ago, this has become my HERO. Not only do my underarms LOOK normal, but I don't smell either. This stuff is liquid GOLD!
- Directions
Shake well before using. Apply to clean, dry underarm skin. Store at room temperature 59-86°F / 15-30°C.
- Ingredients
Drug Facts
Active Ingredient
Aluminum Zirconium Tetrachlorohydrex Glycine Complex 11.25%
Other Ingredients
Aqua (Water), Isopropyl Myristate, Sorbitol, Steareth-2, Steareth-20, Kojic Dipalmate
- Warnings
• For external use only • Do not use on broken skin • Stop use if rash or irritation occurs • Ask a doctor before use if you have kidney disease • Do not get into eyes • Keep out of reach of children


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Adoption Matters
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Join us for a FREE one-hour informational session about adoption. This presentation will demystify the journey toward a successful adoption. Many are intimidated by the process and aren't sure where to start. Our experienced social workers will cover all aspects of finding families for children, and building happy families.
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THE heroic tales of two Victoria Cross winners from the Black Country who fought in the Zulu War will be told at the next meeting of a Worcestershire based history group.
Stourbridge-born historian Max Keen will present the talk to Chaddesely Corbett Local History Society at Chaddesley Corbett Village Hall next month.
It will focus on the brave soldiers of the 24th Regiment - Colour Sgt Anthony Booth and Private Samuel Wassell who both were awarded the Victoria Cross, the UK's highest honour for gallantry, for their courage in the 1879 Zulu War.
Colour Sgt Booth VC from Brierley Hill, who is buried in the churchyard of the town's St Michael's Church, won his at the battle of Intombi River in North Zululand, where he held off 400 Zulu with a handful of men as they retreated for five miles to safety.
Private Wassell, who was born in Kingswinford and signed up with the British Army in Dudley, won his at the battle of Isandhlwana - the infamous massacre of more than 1,200 men on the slopes of the mountain at Isandhlwana.
Although a member of the South Staffordshire Regiment, he was attached to the mounted infantry – and escaped the slaughter as he was on horseback, only to struggle across the swollen Buffalo River a few miles away still hotly pursued by Zulu.
He made his way to the other side with his horse then noticed a colleague struggling in the river - so without a thought for himself he plunged back into the river, rescued him and made his way to safety.
History fans can hear the full story at the meeting which will take place on Wednesday February 19, starting at 7.30pm.
Admission is £2.50 for members and £3.50 for non-members.
To find out more call Rob Blakeway on 01562 777679 or visit website www.chaddesley-corbett.co.uk/history.htm