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AMD's A10-5750M Review, Part 1: The APU and Radeon HD 8650G Performanceby Dustin Sklavos on 6/28/2013 12:00 PM EST
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SmileMan. - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkI can't see the results, "file not found". Maybe a bad link? Reply
OoklaTheMok - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkImages are missing... 404 Reply
mmrezaie - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkneither I! Reply
UltraTech79 - Tuesday, July 02, 2013 - linkneither u! Reply
karasaj - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkYeah... Images broken for me as well :( Reply
mikk - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkImages are broken. Nothing to see here, move on. Reply
Ryan Smith - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkSorry about that, guys. The images have been fixed. Reply
karasaj - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkThank you. Nice review. Do we know when kaveri launches? Like November? I've been hearing good things about it, so hopefully they can really come through here. Reply
Alexvrb - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkThanks for the review. That's impressive for a stopgap refresh, using the same architecture and process. I look forward to Part 2. Reply
UltraTech79 - Tuesday, July 02, 2013 - linkToo late, we're gonna have to let you go. Hand over your badge and gun ={| Reply
monstercameron - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkdon't think it is fair comparing TDPs, we all know that they mean slightly different things for the two, intel 17W parts blow past 30+ watts from time to time. Reply
andrewaggb - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkUltimately the power measurement's that matter are battery life in various use cases and how much heat/active cooling is required. 35W under full gpu load is probably acceptable as long as the idle power usage is competitive with haswell. (I'm doubtful that it is though) Reply
monstercameron - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkyeah idle is where haswell has richland and kabini beat... Reply
Khato - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkWhile I doubt anyone would dispute the fact that Intel allows its processors to turbo past their specified TDP (considering that, ya know, it's kinda part of Intel's specifications) your argument would be better served by providing actual numbers instead of inflating them into the realm of fantasy. Specifically, Notebookcheck's power numbers for systems using the i7-3667U show a delta of roughly 23W between maximum idle and maximum load. Meanwhile their review of the A10-4600M shows a delta of 44W between idle and load.
Regardless, going over specified TDP isn't really an issue, in fact it's typically a good thing. But it definitely means that actual power draw must be considered when comparing performance. Reply
monstercameron - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkreally bro? http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Fujitsu-LifeBo...
idle 9W, maxed out 40W...and that is only an i5. Reply
Darkstone - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkDownload throttlestop. Click on the button that says 'tpl'. Expected output: power limit #1: 17W. power limit #2: 21W. Turbo time: 28s.
Review the stresstest screenshot in this review:
Max. package power, 19w, current package power, 16.5w.
Although the power usage can definitely exceed the TDP, it only does so for a short time. The effect on games or benchmarks taking >5 minutes is too small to make a difference. A processor with a TDP of 45w can be cooled by a heatsink rated at exactly 45w, but it might not always enter turbo mode for the full amount of time.
But that's not all, this review compares the graphics performance of an 17W tdp CPU with an 35W AMD part. The intel ULV parts are heavy power constrained. An 35W i5 part would probably be ~ 30% faster in games. Review notebookcheck, for example, starcraft 2 17W TDP ivy bridge: 31 fps. 45W part: 41 fps. Starcraft 2 does not scale above 2 cores. Check Dead Space or Hitman Absolution for more numbers that tell the same story. Reply
Khato - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkBravo at finding a single example of a 17W SKU behaving abnormally in their review database. If you notice I specified a particular part which outperforms the one included in your linked review, and all reviews notebookcheck has done with that part show a delta of roughly 23W between maximum idle and maximum load.
Just because there's an outlying result doesn't mean that it's the norm. Reply
wumpus - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkAre you seriously suggesting that Intel draws more power than TDP for long enough to soak the thermal mass of the CPU+recommend heat sink? The whole point of TDP means "thermal design power", and needs to be taken into account only for heatsink and mobile manufacturers.
If you want to know what maximum current an Intel chip will draw, pull the datasheet (not the stuff made for marketing or consumers: it should be a pdf with several hundred pages. If you really want to build a motherboard; sign the NDA for the real one with the bugs included). Intel will list the requirements for the motherboard's power supply, and don't expect them to draw more than that (even then they may include a certain capacitance and frequency limits for the power supply. Intel is still free to draw however much they wish as long as the average within one period of the switching frequency is within the limits and can be supplied by the capacitance).
Breaking the specs is huge sin in this industry. Breaking what consumers think the specs are is irrelevant. Reply
name99 - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkThis reminds me of the whining that occurred when Intel first added turbo support to its CPUs --- apparently it's "unfair" to use the laws of thermal physics to improve the performance of devices.
Look, Intel has done an INCREDIBLE job of allowing its devices to run at short high speed bursts, for responsiveness, while generally using extremely low power. This is a tradeoff that meets most people's needs very well, even if it's not an appropriate tradeoff for a server chip that's going to be running at 95% utilization 24/7.
Others should be emulating Intel, not complaining that what they are doing is "unfair". Reply
MrSpadge - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkExcellent posts here by you, wumpus, darkstone and others! Reply
FwFred - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkI am very interested to see 28W Haswell GT3 vs. 37W Haswell GT2 vs. 25W/35W Richland, and 17/19W Richland vs 15W Haswell GT2/GT3. Reply
Gabik123 - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkWhy not boot camp a 2013 macbook air to show Richland performance against a GT3 HD5000? Reply
takeship - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkOr just post the Tomb Raider - Value number from that review. ~28fps. This is really a chip in search of a market. Richland can't replace a discrete setup except at the margins, and has lost it's DX11 leg over Intel as well. Battery life was not mentioned for a reason. I'm very curious Dustin, what the performance of the MSI looked like before you populated out the last RAM slot. It seems that most OEMs would rather save the few dollars rather than even deliver baseline performance with these chips. Also, is there any chance at all that the Richland ULV line will get a review from Anandtech sometime in the future? Reply
xTRICKYxx - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkBattery Life was omitted because the laptop came with a 7970M. A 100W GPU is going to skew the results. Reply
wcg66 - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkThe APU is a good niche for AMD. These gaming numbers are pretty impressive IMO given the cost versus the Intel competition. I hope the continue to improve to the point that they can offer midrange discrete graphics card performance in a single chip (say Radeon 7790 levels of performance.) Reply
mikk - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkdesktop Haswell is a joke
I would say Dustin Sklavos is a joke. Bad reputation for Anandtech. Reply
nathanddrews - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkWhile a bit harsh for a professional review, it's not wrong. Reply
superjim - Tuesday, July 02, 2013 - link^ this Reply
solarisking - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkActually I'm glad he put that in there. Somebody's telling it like it is. I was a little surprised Anand seemed as pleased as he was with the first Haswell performance article. Reply
claysm - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkI agree. Desktop Haswell is a total snooze. There's no upgrade incentive whatsoever from IVB or even SNB in my opinion. Reply
MrSpadge - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkIt's only a joke or disappointment if your expectations have been set far too high. Reply
kyuu - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkIf you're *not* disappointed by desktop Haswell, I'd say your expectations are far too low. Reply
Klimax - Sunday, July 07, 2013 - linkNo, just knowledge what can be done and what are limitations of computing. (For converse example see GPU which increase performance by significant complexity; we all saw how that worked out with manufacturing and consumption...)
Note: I know I am quite late, but too many people comment without understanding. Reply
TGressus - Friday, June 28, 2013 - link"waste heat"
:P Reply
iamezza - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkDesktop Haswell IS a joke, it's clear Intel put very little effort into improving the desktop chips.
Mobile Haswell is extremely impressive though, from a battery life point of view. Reply
whyso - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkWow, that IGP is much worse than I thought it would be. Seems to be roughly 30-50% faster than the ULV HD 4000. That means that its roughly it is as powerful as mobile GT2 HD 4600 ( HD 4000 SV is about 30% faster than ULV HD 4000 and HD 4600 is about 20% faster than HD 4000).
AMD needs to release a 45 watt tdp chip for larger performance notebooks. Reply
xenol - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkI was hoping to see some power consumption and temperature observations. Reply
MooseMuffin - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkYou're disagreeing that desktop Haswell is a joke? Ivy was a bummer too but at least it brought some minor things like PCIe 3.0. Haswell has brought basically nothing to the table. Reply
FwFred - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkI thought GT3e (-R) SKUs and AVX2 were pretty significant additions on the desktop. Intel has the highest performing desktop IGP. Isn't that news?
Yes, the -K overclocking folk are probably better served with Ivy-E. Reply
kyuu - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkWhen it costs an arm and a leg and isn't available, well, anywhere: no, it's not news. Well, I take that back: it may be news, but it's not *good* news. Reply
kyuu - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkI'm referring specifically to the GT3e parts, of course, in case it wasn't clear. Reply
trisct - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkAMD won't interest me again until there's a high end APU with GCN cores available. I wouldn't buy a CPU that is about to be surpassed by a game console. Reply
Rontalk - Friday, June 28, 2013 - link"Unlike with Trinity, AMD didn't seed Richland reference notebooks to reviewers"
Ha ha, I wonder why! Reply
Shivansps - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkWhy is compared to a ULT Haswell? it shouldt be compared to mainstream mobile Haswell parts? Reply
FwFred - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkTo be fair, there are only i5 and i7 mobile Haswells released. The i5s only come in the 15W (GT2/GT3) and 28W (GT3) variety. The GT3 comparison would be very interesting, but I'm not sure Anand has any of these parts. Reply
Beenthere - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkRichland appeals to those who want the best performance/value relationship in a laptop. Few people know or care if a laptop APU is properly rated at 35w or falselty advertised as 17w like Intel does. What most laptop buyers care about is running actual software and reasonable battery life. Richland delivers what the majority of consumers desire and at a price that won't break the bank. When you compare performance based on retail price, Richland is the winner not the $200+ more expensive Intel models. Reply
junky77 - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkthanks for the review
what about power consumption? Reply
Khato - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkIn the many years that I've been reading Anandtech this may well be the first article of genuinely disappointing quality. It's clearly a conscious decision on the part of the author to omit the Haswell GT3 and GT3e benchmarks of previous reviews, apparently justified by the opinion expressed on the third page of, "The only reprieve AMD seems to be getting on this front is the unusual rarity of GT3-enabled parts in the market." And since the Haswell SKUs with faster graphics were omitted from the benchmark results leaving only the low-end 15W GT2 SKU to fight for the title against AMD's top of the line 35W Richland we get the bizarre conclusion of, "AMD continues to offer superior mobile graphics." What's even worse is that the author then acknowledges the fact that AMD has markedly slower graphics in their A8 and A6 lines. (The commentary on desktop Haswell in a mobile review is also a tad bit grating.)
Anyway, I've always liked Anandtech as articles typically include all the relevant information along with informed commentary. Hopefully this review is merely a random anomaly. Reply
Vi0cT - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkI agree with you in the sense that Dustin can/should get higher quality stuff out but are you taking into account the price difference for GT3/GT3e enabled solutions?.
The last time I checked, an Iris Pro 5200 enabled SKU was around ~600 USD with the price difference you can get a current gen discrete mobile GPU(from AMD or NVIDIA) then Intel doesn't stand a chance (GPU).
As far as results goes in the HD 4000 <> HD 5000 comparison article the only benchmark we can relate to is Futuremark 3DMark 11.
Resuming for you here:
AMD Trinity (A10 4600M + 7660G): 1138
Intel HD 5000 ( 2013 13-inch MBA): 1080
So... HD5000 good lower results than Trinity, and considering that the HD5100 just got +0.1Ghz I don't think it's close to Richland.
Then there is Iris Pro 5200, and then we get into HD 8850M /GT 750M territory price-wise.
Not to mention that right now the AMD APU is a better option in the price/performance department (for gaming). Reply
esgreat - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkI the MacBook Air was power constrained (15W part). Iris 5100 is a better comparison not because of it's +0.1GHz nominal frequency change, but it's ability to operate at higher power (28W). This means it doesn't have to throttle down on power as frequently. Reply
Vi0cT - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkStill don't think 5100 can do a lot to the AMD A10-5750M GPU, I believe that at best it can offer equal performance to it and AMD stills wins in the price/performance (take into account driver optimizations too since ). Also VLIW is a more parallel architecture, so it should fare better in non-mainstream GPGPU stuff, however who runs that kind of stuff on a mobile device is beyond me, the best usage case I can think of (for a notebook) is Nebula 3 and the Volterra kernels on CUDA(Professional Audio) but that is on NVIDIA hardware.
Still believe the market for both is a bit different, I mean Intel is focusing into getting more mainstream devices meanwhile AMD is kind of stuck in this kind of devices (GX60).
Even being better than the Intel solution price/performance-wise any design aimed at mainstream will prefer the Intel's lower TDP and power consumption. Reply
whyso - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkLook at the 4770k igp results from the iris pro article. It looks like HD 4600 SV is quite on par with even the top range of AMD's apus (4770k is around 10-15% faster than trinity, richland is marginally faster than trinity [sometimes slower] so it looks like 8650G is barely faster than HD 4600). Reply
Vi0cT - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkIn the desktop Richland is 34% faster than the HD4600 in avg.
The only comparison point we have here for now is 3DMark 11 (Sadly :/) and that puts Richland at 29% advantage vs the HD5100 in the MBA.
Again the peak theoretical performance difference between the HD4600 and the HD5000 is 63%. Between the HD5000 and the HD5100 there's is only 18.3% even taking into account throttling the best I can see the HD5100 doing is being on par with Richland.
Also take into account driver optimization and the optimization for AMD/NVIDIA's GPU architectures.
Still with Richland we're still talking about VLIW, with CGN (Kaveri) AMD will gain ground against Intel.
If done right AMD can get this performance into the 15-20W targets and beat Intel at 28-35W with less problems in CPU intensive games. Reply
Khato - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkPricing is definitely a legitimate concern... too bad that we have no clue how much AMD's mobile parts even cost isn't it? They don't even publish recommended pricing. If we compare similar models that differ only in their processor manufacturer (Lenovo Edge E531 vs E535) then you're talking a $50 premium for the Intel chip on the base offering... though Intel's recommended pricing is the same for the upgraded i5-3230m as the base i3-3110m, so let's figure that the i5-3230m actually costs that recommended $225. In that case we arrive at roughly $100 for the base AMD Trinity and then something around $200 for the A10.
Regardless it doesn't matter too much. For comparison, Iris Pro models start at a recommended price of $440 for the i7-4750HQ. And then all the non-i7 28W Iris parts have a recommended price of $342. But yeah, who knows what actual prices are? The i3-4158U (28W Iris 5100 part) may well be cheaper than AMD's A10-5750m. And as esgreat already stated, expect Iris 5100 to be quite a bit faster than HD 5000. Reply
Vi0cT - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkI'm pretty sure AMD is giving lower prices to OEMs (else they will get almost 0 design wins) many OEMs will try to get extra margins from the AMD. Also don't underestimate 50 USDs. In developing countries (being from one myself) what looks like "50 bucks" makes a huge difference for the avg Joe.
It's the difference between the guy actually buying or not the AMD one. Reply
Khato - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkOh, I wouldn't be surprised if AMD is giving lower prices to OEMs for their low-end models. But they want to make more money on their 'high end' SKUs same as Intel. Heh, and if Intel's i3-4158U outperforms AMD's top end mobile offering then I'm sure that the AMD part will be priced a bit lower than it. But it's hard to claim that AMD has a massive lead in price/performance if that's the case. Regardless, it's all speculation since neither AMD nor Intel give real pricing information for mobile parts. Reply
Vi0cT - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkHowever we can see it like this, maybe both sell the SKUs at the same price (let's say 5% more or less whoever gets it) and the OEMs get those "50 bucks" just cause it says Intel (there is a lot of change that is happening), then it's not Intel's pricing problem :P Reply
Vi0cT - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkthere is a lot of chance* Reply
FwFred - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkWhy would you think the maximum turbo rate has anything to do with the average GPU clock for a 15W part vs 28W? Reply
kyuu - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkThere is no mobile GT3e part, so what are you even talking about. Or does your definition of "fair" somehow involve comparing mobile Richland to desktop Haswell? Reply
Khato - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkYes there is. Mobile is the primary market for GT3e - there are 3 mobile products with Iris Pro 5200 and only 1 desktop product. Reply
kyuu - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkApologies. I actually missed that 47W Haswells were considered "mobile" when I read about it the first time. Still, given the price and TDP disparity, I don't think comparing Iris Pro to Richland is terribly interesting. Reply
FwFred - Friday, June 28, 2013 - linkI sure hope 'Part 2' had battery life... an essential part of any mobile CPU review. Reply
Frenetic Pony - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkWE never needed Bulldozer to begin with. AMD shot itself in the face with Bulldozer, just after its former CEO hoodwinked the shareholders that stuck with AMD and the company itself by making off with the manufacturing arm in the way of Global Foundries just as he was simultaneously making the entire thing a viable, moneymaking business.
WE need Bulldozer gone with, a long time ago. AMD, and thus us, needs a new much less power hungry architecture that can fit into a SOC like structure on the low end and makes Intel stop piddling around on the high TDP end. But unless both Kabini and the PS4/Xbone do very well this holiday season, AMD might not get a chance to produce that.
Still, maybe Qualcomm will be up for it. I could see them even buying out the GPU division if AMD goes under. And their updates Krait this year are perfectly competitive with ARM's new Cortex a15 AND Apple's Swift. Maybe they can just keep getting better. Start to put pressure on Intel from the bottom of the power scale up. Reply
torp - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkBut where are the notebooks with *just* a Richland and no discrete graphics?
If I get an A10 I'll get it for the 'good enough' performance at a low price using just the integrated GPU.
Does anyone make such a notebook, preferably that's not a piece of crap, build quality wise? Reply
Kalelovil - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - link"In this reviewer's opinion, 35W isn't the target, it's the halo. 15W-17W is the target, and while AMD has offerings at those TDPs, they're woefully uncompetitive."
True, their 17W offerings are disappointing, but AMD has the 19W A8-5545M and 25W A10-5745M which offer reasonable specifications (http://www.anandtech.com/show/6979/2013-amd-elite-...
Any chance you will be having systems using either of those in for review? Reply
Kalelovil - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkCorrected link: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6979/2013-amd-elite-... Reply
TerdFerguson - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkAll the "we need AMD" shtick is getting very long in the tooth. Maybe it wouldn't be so offensive if authors were able to provide some scholarly references to back up the claims that consumers are going to really be hurt by AMDs failure to compete. There are certainly plenty of industries with many vendors where competition isn't a huge factor in pricing, even in the tech sector. I'm nowhere near convinced that AMD should somehow derive credit for Intel's progress, and the baseless whining in this article has done nothing to convince me otherwise. Reply
kyuu - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - link... I generally dislike being so blunt, but: wow, that's clueless even for someone who's name is "Terd". Reply
Pneumothorax - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkWow... Somebody forgets the 'good ol days' of the 90's when Intel basically completely owned the x86 market and routinely released their latest chips always around $900. For example the original Pentium in the 'cheaper' 60mhz variant was released in 1993 at $847. And no that was not an 'extreme edition' either. In today's dollars it's close to $1400. That is the x86 world without a viable competitor to greedy Intel. Reply
drothgery - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkThat was also a world where $3000 desktops were in "reasonable high-end" space, not "if you don't have a serious business case where you're maxing out the resources on this thing -- and you probably don't -- only buy it if you've got more money than sense" space.
AMD was only a viable competitor to Intel from the trailing end of the P3 era to the Core 2 launch. If Intel was going to jack up their prices when AMD stopped being a viable competitor, they've certainly taken their time at it. They released a dominant product 7 years ago, have only increased and broadened their performance lead, and still aren't doing it. Reply
TerdFerguson - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - linkI haven't forgotten those heady socket 7 days in the least. As I recall, one could buy x86 chips from IBM, Cyrix, AMD, and others. The $2000+ machines you're talking about were perhaps not marketed as "extreme", but they certainly performed remarkably well compared to the nearly as expensive 486 machines from Intel and others that they slowly replaced. Fast-forward 20 years, and we're down to two manufacturers and CPU prices are pretty much at an all time low. So, where's the correlation? There, meanwhile, are a dozen different motherboard manufacturers and prices have been rising like mad during that same time period. Again, where's the correlation?
If having a large number of vendors automatically precluded ludicrous pricing, there'd be no such thing as price fixing. Reply
mitcoes - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkI agree and I always miss a Price/Performance note at benchmarks. Perhaps with a second bar.
i7 vs A8 / A10 for gaming Price / performance is a no brain choice
And all we know that gaming is almost the only thing that requires real desktop performance as almost every other desktop common app will run well at almost any actual CPU+GPU Reply
johnny_boy - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkI would have liked to have seen the (a) system running dual channel 1866 memory, since that would have offered an additional small boost to graphics performance. I'm surprised how much this evolutionary development over Trinity results in significant performance gains. Waiting for Kaveri now. Reply
dineshramdin - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - linkFor me, I need something with a high end APU…. I sometimes feel its irritating to get ur CPU occupied with some unnecessary game console… I am not gonna buy this. Reply
mikato - Tuesday, July 02, 2013 - linkError-"PCMark 7 is always going to respond primarily to the storage system, so the GX60's SSD takes a bath." page 2.
I thought at the GX60 didn't have an SSD and that's why it takes a bath. Justin needs to take a bath actually since I keep hearing about all this bathing of computer hardware lately from him. Reply
medi02 - Wednesday, July 24, 2013 - linkIt's hard to get this where this conclusion is coming from:
Graphics performance will at best be slightly above parity, while CPU performance takes a bath.
As Intel's HD in this very article is roughly 2 times slower that AMD's APUs. (while gap between CPU's is about 1.5)
This means that if you occasionally play games you should avoid Intel's notebooks without dedicated graphic cards, while you're fine with AMD's without. And I have yet to find an app that I would run on a notebook, besides games, that would seriously benefit from a faster CPU. Reply
PsychoticFlamez - Thursday, August 22, 2013 - linkOk let me just say something all these sites say the new cpu is the same as trinitys. but its not richland has improved thier cpu, and intergrated gpu so much that its at a comparason. to your mid range desktop. I would know I upgraded not to long ago and this spd increase is about 60+fos in my games. P.S. I do not have a dedicated video card in my computer. Reply
webcat62 - Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - linkI just bought a HP AMD A10 laptop 2.5ghz cpu with 8gb of ram 1TB hard drive ATI Radeon 2500 with 768 memory, 8mb of of L2 cache, blutooth, multiple dvd writer usb 3.0 x2 usb 2.0 glossy screen. 5 hour battery life, hdmi port 10x card reader, loaded with windows 8. I bought it at Future shop, there were only 10 units available for $399.00 + tax= $480.00 This laptop retails on the web between $650 to $700 How is that for a great bargain, IT does not overheat, I leave it on all day, i play the most demanding games at medium resolution. For this price it does not get any better.
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UtilityMax - Thursday, December 26, 2013 - linkAMD needs to bring something new to mobile APU market ASAP. If this APU was compared to a portable with Intel's 35watt Haswell processor with HD4600 or even HD4000 graphics, the massive lead of the APU in 3D games would disappear. I mean, A10 may still be a little faster, but not by a truly significant margin. At best, it competes with Haswell i3, which will be priced aggressively, considering Haswell i5 portables can go for $600 or less. Reply
touristguy87 - Wednesday, April 09, 2014 - link"AMD doesn't just need Kaveri. We need Kaveri."
No, we don't. Maybe you need it, but the majority of the computer market certainly doesn't. This is why the desktop/laptop/notebook market is dying rapidly: people only upgrade their machines either when the machines die (because a component fails) or miraculously they find themselves in need of a much-faster machine. Short of that all they do is buy a new one to fill a need for a new one, and then the hardware is plenty fast enough for most needs most of the time. The big issue becomes price, because there's no need to spend $2500 for a top of the line laptop. Oh sorry, $1000. I'm thinking of 2000 prices, 2005 maybe.
Phones. Tablets at most. That is where the market is. 35W laptops are an afterthought. Especially running Windows 8, especially for gaming. Reply
limbo90 - Saturday, September 13, 2014 - linkCurrently I'm considering to take MSI GX60 3CC Destroyer laptop that comes with AMD A10-5750M and Radeon R9 M290X.... most review said that it is not a recommended laptop for gaming as for the AMD A10-5750M bottleneck issue with Radeon R9 M290X.... some said it is only suitable for single player game, not online gaming/online multiplayer... Any opinion on this laptop specs? Reply


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Happy Groundhog day!
Ole Phil saw his shadow, again, about 90% of the time
he does. CNN said he could not have, however, since
it was cloudy in that area of PA. So who knows. I have
a groundhog living in the bank on a creek which flows
through my yard. My dog does not like him/her, however.
Go figure.
The History.com site of the History channel has an
interesting commentary about it, connecting it to
today's "Christian" feast of Candlemas and the blessing
of candles for winter - this also being the same feast.
On this day in 1887, Groundhog Day, featuring a rodent meteorologist, is celebrated for the first time at Gobbler's Knob in Punxsutawney, Pennsylvania. According to tradition, if a groundhog comes out of its hole on this day and sees its shadow, there will be six more weeks of winter weather; no shadow means an early spring.
Groundhog Day has its roots in the ancient Christian tradition of Candlemas Day, when clergy would bless and distribute candles needed for winter. The candles represented how long and cold the winter would be. Germans expanded on this concept by selecting an animal--the hedgehog--as a means of predicting weather. Once they came to America, German settlers in Pennsylvania continued the tradition, although they switched from hedgehogs to groundhogs, which were plentiful in the Keystone State.
Groundhogs, also called woodchucks and whose scientific name is Marmota monax, typically weigh 12 to 15 pounds and live six to eight years. They eat vegetables and fruits, whistle when they're frightened or looking for a mate and can climb trees and swim. They go into hibernation in the late fall; during this time, their body temperatures drop significantly, their heartbeats slow from 80 to five beats per minute and they can lose 30 percent of their body fat. In February, male groundhogs emerge from their burrows to look for a mate (not to predict the weather) before going underground again. They come out of hibernation for good in March.
In 1887, a newspaper editor belonging to a group of groundhog hunters from Punxsutawney called the Punxsutawney Groundhog Club declared that Phil, the Punxsutawney groundhog, was America's only true weather-forecasting groundhog. The line of groundhogs that have since been known as Phil might be America's most famous groundhogs, but other towns across North America now have their own weather-predicting rodents, from Birmingham Bill to Staten Island Chuck to Shubenacadie Sam in Canada.
Groundhog day.
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Groundhog day.
-----please, draw me a sheep-----
- LukeJavan8
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We just had another six inches of snow last night: worst
winter in decades. What I like about the
Punxa..Phil story was that "he saw his shadow" yet
CNN and Fox both reported it was impossible, since
there were clouds covering the entire state of
Pennsylvania. Go figure.
winter in decades. What I like about the
Punxa..Phil story was that "he saw his shadow" yet
CNN and Fox both reported it was impossible, since
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Since early September, viewers have checked out dozens of student elevator pitches at www.elevatorpitch2013.com and voted for their favorite. What is an elevator pitch? An "elevator pitch" is a carefully crafted message designed to explain a business to a potential investor. The catch — it must be given in the time that it takes to ride up an elevator. Only the students who represent the businesses taking part in the National Youth Entrepreneurship Challenge can participate in the Elevator Pitch Challenge.
During the National Challenge finals on Oct. 3, 2013, the winners were named: congratulations to our grand prize winner, Aliyah W. from St. Louis, Missouri, along with the runners-up Alex M. from San Jose, California and Dagim G. from Alexandria, Virginia. Aliyah has won $2,500, while the two runner-ups win $500 each.
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Run out of time to bake a chocolately sweet for your honey on Valentine's Day? This moist little beauty only takes 30 seconds to make! Is it possible, you ask?
Jeff Potter, author of Cooking for Geeks and recent Food(ography) guest, shared with us his recipe for immediate chocolate-cake gratification.
Jeff uses the foaming power of a cream whipper and the heating power of the microwave to do in 30 seconds what most cake recipes take around 30 minutes to achieve—incorporating air into a batter and rising it up into a cake. Please try this at home!
30-Second Chocolate Cake
In a microwave-safe bowl, melt:
• 4 oz chocolate (bittersweet preferably)
Add and thoroughly whisk together:
• 4 large eggs
• 6 tablespoons sugar
• 3 tablespoons flour
Pass the mixture through a strainer to remove any lumps and to filter out the chalazaes (the little white strands that attach the yolk to the egg white). Transfer to whipper and pressurize.
Spray mixture into a greased glass, ramekin, or whatever microwave-safe container you will cook it in, leaving at least the top third of the container empty. (A clear glass is nice to use, as you can can see the cake rise and fall as it cooks.)
Microwave for 30 seconds or until the foam has set.
Flip onto a plate and dust with powdered sugar.
(For better-tasting results, try adding Nutella or Fluff: Spray a thin layer of cake batter, drop a spoonful of filling into the center, and then spray more cake batter on top of and around the filling.)
Wowzers! If you whip out one of these, please share your pics with us!
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The Triple-A Gwinnett Braves split a doubleheader Wednesday against the Columbus Clippers, finishing Tuesday's rainout with a 7-4 win before falling 3-2 in the second game of the night in Columbus, Ohio.
For the second straight night, rain prevented the Gwinnett Braves from completing their game, this time against the Columbus Clippers.
TOLEDO, OH – Jose Constanza's sacrifice fly in the top of the 10th inning propelled the Gwinnett Braves to a 2-1 win over the Toledo Mud Hens on Sunday at Fifth-Third Field. It was the fourth win in a row for Gwinnett as they maintain a four-game lead over Charlotte for first place in the International League South Division.
The Triple-A Gwinnett Braves broke a 3-3 tie with four runs in the top of the fifth and beat the Toledo Mud Hens 8-3 in game two of the four game series on Saturday night at Fifth-Third Field in Toledo, Ohio.
FORT MILL, SC - The Charlotte Knights received strong pitching for the second straight game and beat the Gwinnett Braves, 2-0, in the finale of the three-game series at Knights' Stadium.
The Triple-A Gwinnett Braves could only muster three hits and could not score enough runs to back the pitching of Todd Redmond, who gave the club 5 2/3 solid innings in a 3-1 loss to the Charlotte Knights on Saturday in Fort Mill, S.C.
Second baseman Drew Sutton's two-run double in the top of the eighth broke a scoreless tie and propelled the Gwinnett Braves to a 3-0 win over the Charlotte Knights in game one of a three-game series at Knights Stadium on Friday night.
The Gwinnett Braves defeated the Norfolk Tide 9-2 on Thursday afternoon at Coolray Field. Jordan Parraz went 3 for 5 with a double and four RBI, while Ernesto Mejia had a double, home run and three RBIs as the G-Braves (11-4) completed a four-game sweep of the Tides. Right-hander Eric Junge threw six scoreless innings in the win for the G-Braves. Gwinnett Braves (11-4) now head to the road for a three-game series against the Charlotte Knights at 7:15 p.m. Friday.
Tim Hudson pitched five innings, struck out four and allowed only two hits in a rehab start for the Gwinnett Braves (10-4) in a 4-1 win against Norfolk on Wednesday afternoon in Lawrenceville. Ernesto Mejia had a three-run double in the bottom of the first inning to take an early lead for the G-Braves.
Altanta Braves starter Tim Hudson is expected to make a rehab start for Gwinnett, the organization's Triple-A club, on Wednesday.
LAWRENCEVILLE - The Gwinnett Braves held a 1-0 lead through four innings, but couldn't complete the four-game sweep as the Durham Bulls won 5-1 on Sunday at Coolray Field.
DURHAM, N.C. - The Durham Bulls erupted for six runs in the first two innings off of Gwinnett starting pitcher Eric Junge and never looked back, beating the G-Braves 7-4 in the finale of the four-game series at Durham Bulls Athletic Park in Durham, N.C.
The Gwinnett Braves had their regular season finale against the Charlotte Knights canceled by rain Monday in Lawrenceville.
First baseman Mauro Gomez had an RBI single in the eight inning and the Triple-A Gwinnett Braves defeated the Charlotte Knights 6-5 on Sunday at Coolray Field in Lawrenceville.
Gwinnett Braves starting pitcher Julio Teheran allowed a season-high six earned runs in a 9-4 loss to the Norfolk Tides on Thursday in Norfolk, Va.
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if i have to create a payload using metasploit,,then where do i have to put it,,or the script creates it auto . if that i need my ip ,, i've putted it in the script so where the payload goes ? any explanations !
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NINETEEN jobs are at risk after the Co-operative confirmed it is to close its Padiham convenience store.
The Co-op, which has had a presence in the town for more than 100 years, will close its Burnley Road shop on June 14.
Former Burnley MP Peter Pike described it as 'a sad day for the staff and the local Co-operative movement'.
The closure comes just 18 months after rival retailers Tesco opened a superstore in nearby Wyre Street.
A spokesperson for The Co-operative Food said: "We can confirm that The Co-operative Food store in Burnley Road, Padiham, is to close on Saturday June 14.
"Staff at the store have been informed of the decision, which has been taken with the greatest reluctance and is due to the store's poor trading performance. It is not, in any way, a reflection on the commitment and hard work of the store team. Every effort is being made to redeploy as many as possible of the 19 members of staff with The Co-operative Group, or to help them find alternative employment."
Mr Pike, Burnley MP from 1983 to 2005, said: "As a regular shopper at Padiham Co-op I am very sorry to hear the store will close on June 14 making 19 staff redundant.
"I was a former director of the Co-op and in the 1960s the Padiham Co-op merged with Burnley Co-op to form the Pendle Co-op.
"In the 1960s there were some Co-op stores – far too many – but this closure will only leave one food outlet on Briercliffe Road, Burnley.
"It is a sad day for the staff and the local Co-operative movement."
The future of the building has yet to be decided.


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Offense held in check as Braves fall to Dodgers
Atlanta, which has lost 10 of its past 12 games, scores two runs
ATLANTA -- As the Braves have spent the past two weeks enduring their most demoralizing stretch of this season, they have been burdened by a maddening offense that has far too often left the pitching staff with no room for error. Such was the case again on Monday night, as Julio Teheran's late-inning misfortunes allowed the Dodgers to cruise to a 6-2 win at Turner Field.
"It can be frustrating," Justin Upton said. "I don't think anybody in this clubhouse is too frustrated yet, but obviously we want to do better. We just haven't. When you start getting frustrated with the game, that's when you start trying too hard and that's when things can really go south."
It is hard to imagine things going any further south than they have as the Braves have lost 10 of their past 12 games and scored two runs or less seven times during this span. Since tallying six runs off Stephen Strasburg during the first two innings of this homestand, the Braves have totaled seven runs in the 34 innings that have followed.
"They're fighting and we're fighting and it's just not there every day," Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez said. "I don't know if it's the lineup. I go sleepless nights trying to figure out where and who and that kind of stuff. We just need to go back out there tomorrow and get good at-bats. We've seen it."
After taking two of three from the first-place Nationals this past weekend, the Braves were looking forward to going through this four-game set against the Dodgers without having to face Clayton Kershaw or Zack Greinke. But Kevin Correia, who had posted a 4.94 ERA for the Twins before being traded to the Dodgers this past weekend, proved to be just as effective as the aforementioned aces.
Making his first start since being acquired on Saturday, Correia scattered four hits over six innings. The lone run he surrendered came via a one-out, fourth-inning single by Upton. While many might have been surprised by the results netted by the veteran hurler in his Dodgers debut, those who have watched the Braves compile the National League's 13th-worst OPS (.648) since the All-Star break were likely not shocked.
"We just haven't clicked on all cylinders yet," Upton said. "Hopefully, it's coming soon."
This certainly wasn't the most dominant of outings for Teheran, who allowed five runs and nine hits, including eight singles -- many of which were of the soft variety -- over 7 1/3 innings. But the 23-year-old hurler had surrendered just three hits (all singles) before allowing singles to five of the first six batters in the sixth inning.
Though he had recorded just 15 plate appearances since the end of the 2012 season, Correia notched a pair of hits, including a single to begin the decisive sixth. Adrian Gonzalez delivered a game-tying single and Carl Crawford notched a go-ahead single two batters later. Emilio Bonifacio, who moved to second base when Tommy La Stella exited in the second inning with a hamstring cramp, then fumbled a Justin Turner grounder that had the potential to result in an inning-ending double play and instead resulted in an RBI.
"I don't want to call it bad luck," said Teheran, who had allowed two earned runs or less in nine of 11 previous home starts. "That's part of the game. Those are situations I didn't face at the beginning of the game. I got a little bit in trouble and then I tried to get out of it and I couldn't."
Teheran exited after Matt Kemp's ground-rule double put runners at second and third with one out in the eighth. Newly acquired southpaw reliever James Russell then further extended his struggles against left-handed hitters by allowing an RBI single to Crawford, the only batter he faced.
Since being acquired from the Cubs on July 31, Russell has faced 11 left-handed hitters. He's allowed hits to five of them and walked another. This is just an extension of what he has done all season, as he has had much more success against right-handed hitters.
"I thought [Teheran] pitched better than what his line showed," Gonzalez said. "People are going to wake up tomorrow morning, look at the box score and say, 'Julio got beat up pretty good.' But I didn't see that."
Mark Bowman is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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Was digging around in the freezer the other night and came across two venison tenderloins and figured it was time to cook them.
Trimmed of fat and silverskin.
Soaked in milk, hot sauce, onions, garlic powder and freshly ground pepper for about 45 minutes.
Tossed them on the Egg. I am now convinced that my thermometer is totally off, so I was just going by feel. Also grilled them for about 10 minutes with the dome closed and then finished them up with the dome open (gasp) to really get the fire going and crisp up the bacon quickly. I guess I could have done them on the MINI. They would have fit, but one of my thermometers got bent, not sure if it works anymore and the remaining one is sitting in the large. Really, really need to check both of them out as I've just been winging it temperature wise for about 3 weeks now. Who needs exact temperatures anyways?
Pulled them at 125 and let them rest for 10 minutes. Plated them up with some brocolli and a side salad.
First time I've ever had venison tenderloins and it was so much better than pork or beef! Wasn't gamey at all and so tender. Now I'm bummed that I don't have any more left. Can't wait for hunting season to start up again this year.


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Marysville, WA (KING) – A woman has been arrested after two sick children, one of whom died, were found in car in Marysville, Washington.
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Two children, who police say are sisters, were found in the car, one of them dead, another clinging to life.
"Our community is in grieving right now. Not only for the little one who continued her journey, but the parents. Anytime we lose somebody it just affects us so much," said tribal chairman Mel Sheldon.
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"There's a lot of traffic that goes on at night, there's shady looking cars going back and forth, people parking up top and walking down at all times of the night," said neighbor Carmen Miller.
It all unfolded Monday night when the mother of the children called 911.
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Half Life 2 CPU Performanceby Anand Lal Shimpi on 1/26/2005 7:57 AM EST
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dderidex - Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - linkQuick question...
On the 'cache comparison' on page 5, where they compare an A64 with 1mb cache to an A64 with 512k cache...
What CPUs are they comparing?
512k Socket 754 (single channel)
1mb Socket 754 (single channel
512k Socket 939 (dual channel)
1mb Socket 939 (dual channel)
512k Socket 754 (single channel)
1mb Socket 939 (dual channel)
No info is provided, so it's hard to really say what the numbers are showing. Reply
doughtree - Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - linkgreat article, next game you should do is battlefield 2! Reply
dsorrent - Monday, January 31, 2005 - linkHow come in all of the CPU comparisons, the AMD FX-53 is left out of the comparisons? Reply
PsharkJF - Monday, January 31, 2005 - linkThat has no bearing to half-life. Nice job, fanboy. Reply
levicki - Saturday, January 29, 2005 - linkBtw, I have Pentium 4 520 and 6600 GT card and I prefer that combo over AMD+ATI anytime. I had a chance to work on AMD and I didn't like it -- no hyperthreading = bad feeling when working with few things at once. With my P4 I can compress DVD to DivX and play Need For Speed Underground 2 without a hitch. I had ATI (Sapphire 9600 Pro) and didn't like that crap too especially when OpenGL and drivers are concerned = too much crashing.
Intel .vs. AMD -- people can argue for ages about that but my 2 cents are that musicians using Pentium 4 with HT get 0.67 ms latency with latest beta kX drivers for Creative cards and AMD owners get close to 5.8 ms. From a developer point of view Intel is much better choice too due to great support, compiler and documentation. So my next CPU will be LGA775 with EM64T (I already have a compatible mainboard) and not AMD which by the way has troubles with Winchester cores failing Prime 95 at stock speed.
Carfax - Saturday, January 29, 2005 - linkYeah, developers are so lazy that they will still use x87 for FP rather than SSE2, knowing that the latter will give better performance.
Thats why the new 64-bit OS from MSoft will be a good thing. It will force developers to use SSE2/SSE3, because they have access to twice as many registers and the OS itself won't recognize x87 for 64-bit operations. Reply
Barneyk - Saturday, January 29, 2005 - linkI would've liked to se some benchmarks on older CPUs to, kinda dissapointed... Reply
levicki - Friday, January 28, 2005 - linkI just wonder how would this test look like if it was made with 6800 Ultra instead with ATI X850 XT.
Disabling SSE/SSE2 on Athlon and getting the same results as if they were enabled means that game is NOT OPTIMIZED. Using FPU math instead of SSE/SSE2 today is a sin. It could have been 3-4 times faster if they cared about optimizing the code. Reply
Phantronius - Friday, January 28, 2005 - link#53
Its because the Prescotts wern't better then the Northwoods to begin with, hence why don't see squat performance differences between them. Reply
maestroH - Friday, January 28, 2005 - linkThx for your reply #56. Apologies for false '@9700pro' statement. Meant to say 'soft-modded with Omega driver to 9700pro'. Cheers. Reply
zhangping0233 - Thursday, January 05, 2012 - linkNice job, If you need any flashlight, pls contact Xecconlight.com feel free. Reply
PrinceGaz - Friday, January 28, 2005 - linkby the way, you can't mod a 9500Pro to a 9700Pro, the 9500Pro circuit-board only has a 128-bit memory-bus and there's no way you can change it to 256-bit. Reply
PrinceGaz - Friday, January 28, 2005 - link#55- the cut-off point where you can't really tell the difference of a higher framerate, is when the framerate exceeds the monitor refresh rate.
If your monitor is updating the display 85 times per second (a common setting for cheaper CRT displays), then a *minimum* framerate of higher than 85fps makes no difference. With flat-panels, refresh-rates of 60-75hz are more common so you don't even need to maintain 85fps. A faster graphics-card is still worthwhile though as it allows you to crank up AA and Aniso settings (8x anti-aliasing is lovely). Reply
maestroH - Friday, January 28, 2005 - linkComing from the recent dark age of a P4 1.7/9500Pro(@9700Pro) combi, this is great article to decide on my new machine. Although HL2 is playing quite nicely, I am lucky to have a one-off opportunity to buy myself a FX-55/X800XT combi.
Never having experienced even any fps close to what's on these charts, something in the back of my mind keeps saying that a 10-20 fps more when you are already over 100 fps, will make no difference to the experience except a bigger hole in my wallet. Can anyone tell me where the 'cut-off' point is where even the most discerning of gamers cannot see/feel the difference? Knowing that dual core is coming up (even though games for them still need to be made), would buying a 3500+ be smarter or should I go for the FX-55 simply because I can (only this once)? Thx Anand for the article. Reply
essjae - Thursday, January 27, 2005 - linkThose graphs look nice, but they don't really mean much. Based on similar graphs and results I just bought a a64-4000+ and MSI Neo2 Platinum to replace my P4-3.2GHz and Asus P4c-800E.
With the same ATI X800XT Platinum, memory, and hard drives, I can't see any difference between then, in fact, the P4 seemed to play smoother.
Do I have any proof, no, other than playing half-life 2 on my p4 was more enjoyable.
Spacecomber - Thursday, January 27, 2005 - linkCan anyone offer some insight into why the extreme edition northwoods did as poorly as they did? The 3.2GHz EE could barely keep up with the 3.0GHz Prescott; so, it's more than the raw clock speed of the high end Prescotts.
Could it be related to running the Northwood on a platform really intended for Prescotts?
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mixpix - Thursday, January 27, 2005 - linkAwesome article. It was exactly what I've been looking for. My 2600+ is not cutting it with my 6600GT AGP and I was thinking it was the CPU that was limiting preformance. Reply
TheCanuck - Thursday, January 27, 2005 - linkFiring Squad did a review on the Athlon XP performance with HL2 a while ago:
The 3200+ XP got about 95fps in the Canals_09 demo at 1280x1024 with an X800 XT PE. Not sure how well it compares to the Canals_08 that Anandtech uses, but I doubt the difference would be that great. Reply
Guspaz - Thursday, January 27, 2005 - linkI'm very dissapointed with this article. I have been eagerly awaiting it for ages, expecting to see how Half-Life 2 scales down to lower speed processors; I've long maintained that low end processors like an AthlonXP 1900+, run the game quite poorly.
The big deal with HL2 is that it was supposed to run on much older computers. But nobody seems to have benchmarked it on anything but pretty new hardware. I expected that a CPU scaling article would cover that, in fact I thought that was the entire point. Reply
Visual - Thursday, January 27, 2005 - linki'd be curious to see normal 6600, as well as maybe some lower-end ati card in the comparison :)
ok ok, i know this isn't a GPU shootout, but still... Reply
drinkmorejava - Thursday, January 27, 2005 - linkWhen they test the Athlon 64 3400+, is it the 1meg clawhammer or the 512k newcastle. In comparisons with my friend who has a lousy newcastle with dual channel, he is always thoroughly beaten by my clawhammer. Reply
drinkmorejava - Thursday, January 27, 2005 - linkReply
Zebo - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkI wish y'all would do an expo of A64's incredible "feels faster" syndrome to to it's 1/3rd mem latency of all other platforms.
bob661 - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - link#44
Where can you buy it? Especially when MSI's website makes no mention of this. Reply
Dranzerk - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - link#43
Yes that is feature feature. MSI offers it, never saw it reviewed though. Reply
miketheidiot - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - link#40, 42, their was talk a while back about a PCIe to agp adaptor. Not sure what happened with it though. Reply
bob661 - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - link#39
The MSI board has no such feature. It would require a different MCP to get AGP to work or using one of the PCI slots to do it (which wouldn't be AGP). Reply
bob661 - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - link#20
I have some OCZ CAS3 DDR400 ram in my system. 7 months ago it was considered premium ram (it's EB3500). Reply
Aquila76 - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - link#39 - WTF are you talking about? nForce 4 is only PCIe. What page are you looking at? I went through MSI's site and nothing on the Neo4 page says anything about AGP. There is no AGP slot on the mobo either. If you clcik on 'Special Features' that is for the special features of all of MSI's products. Reply
Dranzerk - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - link18 - Posted on Jan 26, 2005 at 12:35 PM by Phantronius said:
"NF4 will not be supporting AGP bud, sorry, its PCI-E from here on out."
It does with a addon card..
MSI K8N neo4 Platnium NF4
GO to manufactor website listed on speical features:
Special Features:
ATX Form Factor
Supports Accelerated Graphic Port (AGP) Add-On Card
AGP on a NF4 tata!
:D Reply
Phantronius - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkIf your gaming on a laptop, you need help. Reply
RockHydra11 - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkWas anyone surprised by the results, or didn't know what the answer would be already? I could make a very educated guess before I even clicked on the link. Reply
T8000 - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkThis kind of CPU reviewing really makes me wonder if anyone plays with a $700 R850 XT-PE without anti-aliasing, anistrophic filtering and does so at 1280x1024.
I mean, if that's all you want, why not save a cool $500 and buy a GF6600GT instead.
It would be nice if someone reviewed CPU scaling at real gaming settings, because the 20% differences created here, may translate in only 5% with real settings, making it unnoticable during gameplay. Reply
Whiskyboy - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkI thought the artilce was a nice return to the feature for feature comparison that a shopper like myself really finds useful. I'm slighlty curious about upcoming technologies but I'm really disintereted in seeing how the brand new toy from AMD or Nvidia performs because I'm not going to suggest paying the ridiculous premiums they charge for the new junk. Seeing the effect that things like memory timings, bandwidth, cpu clock have on performance in a consistent platform make it easier for me to make recommendations to my customers for their systems. I like the Buyer's Guide articles, but in all honesty I want the charts that this article has. If you are suggesting that there should be more articles like this, I agree, but I'm not about to complain about the first article in months that actually made a useful shopper's comparison. Thanks Anand Reply
Marlowe - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkI would like to see the cpu scaling done with Intel cpu's too! :) Reply
Cybercat - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkThe X850XT PE being a PCIe part, how did you use it on Socket 754 CPUs? I've not seen any Socket 754 NF4 boards yet. Reply
Aquila76 - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - link#32 - Gamers buy PC's in orders of magnitude greater numbers than laptops. Maybe you can run Half-life 2 on your Intel Extreme Graphics, but that's nothing compared to gaming on an A64 with a decent video card and sound. Reply
jherber - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkwhere is the pentium m? MOST OF US BUY LAPTOPS THESE DAYS. Reply
REMF - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkroflmao:
an Athlon64 3200+ @ 2.0GHz gets 112fps
an Athlon64 3000+ @ 1.8GHz gets 104fps
.'. an A64 3100+ @ 1.9GHz would get 108fps
...... the same as a P4 570 running at 3.8GHz, twice the speed!
LOL Reply
bupkus - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkI'm glad to finally see this article. I've been waiting for weeks and beginning to think this article was just "vaporware". ;)
As to the following quote:
"If you are stuck with one of those older but still well-performing GPUs, don't bother upgrading your CPU unless it's something slower than a 2.4GHz Pentium 4 - you'd be much better served by waiting and upgrading to dual core later on."
As this was just a tantalizing morsel of things to come, I'm looking forward to the coming weeks.
Roooooooooooooooooot - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - link
Ommmmm ... yes, a very nice article :)
More than any article I've seen, this one made the point about the power of AMD processors for 3D gaming.
"Megahertz Shmegahertz" could have been the title. The 3.8 Pentium running neck and neck with a 2 GHz AMD CPU. Now I understand !!
One place I worked had hundreds of Dell Workstations. They gave us dual xeon ultra-SCSI jobbies. It may not sound like much, but 2 1 GHz Xeon's with an 18 Gig U160 or was it 320 SCSI HDD and an ATI FireGL graphics card was what I had.
I would love to see an article about corporate CAD machines, AMD vs. Intel with various scales of video cards. Reply
bamacre - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - link1,000,001 demands for A XP benchies, how about one for high-end Northwood P4's ?? Please? Reply
AkumaX - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkI one MEELIONTH the motion, i wish there were a XP barton benchmark somewhere in there, not just w/ the XP3200 (2.2ghz) but also w/ 2.3ghz and 2.4ghz (since most of us appear to also be running o/ced mobiles :P) Reply
michael2k - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkWhat did you expect? People were demanding the HL2 CPU article in the Mac threads... and lo and behold, the next day, Anand has posted the HL2 CPU article.
You can either get something now, or you can get something finished... very rarely can you get both :) Reply
Crassus - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkI was also quite surprised that the article still appeared. I'm glad it did, but I think it falls short of Anandtechs high standard:
1. For comparison, at least two AXP (two to see how it scales) should be in the test field
2. As previously mentioned, Processor/speed/cache/socket. There is more that just one Athlon 64 3000+
3. Including CAS 2,5 would have been nice as this seems to be the default for people using mainstream DDR3200 RAM
4. What's the deal with the Athlon 3500+ in diagramm 3 on page 2?
Something else bothered me:
Quote: "If you are stuck with one of those older but still well-performing GPUs, don't bother upgrading your CPU unless it's something slower than a 2.4GHz Pentium 4 - you'd be much better served by waiting and upgrading to dual core later on."
Common wisdom seemed to be that especially games don't take advantage of multi-threading. Do you have any new information that upcoming games are geared more towards multiple CPUs/cores/HT? Reply
quanta - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkThe test didn't show the impact of using partial precision vs full precision on NVIDIA cards. As some people have mentioned[1], Half-Life 2 doesn't need full 32-bit precision to run smoothly. In effect, NVIDIA card is running in speed crippled by the game's designers.
[1] http://3dgpu.com/archives/2004/12/01/boost-perform... Reply
DavidHull - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkI second the need for SLI configurations to be included, as many reviewers have found them to be extremely limited by the CPU. Reply
AtaStrumf - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkInteractive 3D charts in flash. Khm,... can it be done? Reply
AtaStrumf - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkI was starting to think this article has been bined, but fortunately it wasn't.
First of all I agree with the need for an AXP 3200+ in the charts. It's still a very, very common PCU!
Secondly this is only an OK article by Anand's standards. The first thing that really bothered me was how the CPU's are marked by some very long but also very useless names, like
AMD Athlon 64 3400+ (2.4 GHz)
Intel Pentium 4 570 (3.8 GHz)
This takes a lot of room on the carts but still tells me nothing about Cache size or Socket type. I suggest names like:
A64 3400+/S754/512kB/2.4GHz (its shorter and says a lot more)
Same thing for Intel: P4 570/Socket/Cache...
And how in the hell did you come up with CAS3? Most DDR 400 RAM (excluding OEMs) is CAS 2,5 and not 3 or 2. I appreciate the memory tests very much though, I just regret the very basic mistake in the underlaying assumptions.
I understand it was a low priority, seriously delayed article, but I just can't shake the feeling it could have been so much more.
One of these days I'm gonna have to take some time and put together a demo of how data is properly presented. Reply
Questar - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - link"Next let's take a look at at_coast_05, another very GPU limited test that has a good deal of NPC interaction as well as GPU limiting elements:
How the hell could this be GPU limited if the difference from top to bottom of the graph is > 50%?
Phantronius - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - link#3
NF4 will not be supporting AGP bud, sorry, its PCI-E from here on out. Reply
Ozz1113 - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkIll backup the thought of putting some T-bred cores in there. My OC'd XP2600 333 w\ modded 9500 radeon system ran HL2 very well. I would have liked it to have been better, but it is not worth upgrading yet. Reply
Araemo - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkHehehe.. I'll fifteenth the "Please include an AXP3200+" sentiment. Personally, I'd rather see one or two AXPs included than a complete list of athlon64s.. You can generally extrapolate the performance of a given CPU if you are given two other CPUs with the same cache/FSB/core. I know that my Mobile barton handled the game fine, but I'd like to know how far behind a cheap A64 it really is. Reply
miketheidiot - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - link"Our standard 2-2-2-10 memory does actually offer reasonable performance benefits in Half Life 2 compared to DDR400 with higher timings such as 3-3-3-10 or the unrealistically high 3-6-6-10."
Reasonable performance benefits? decent 2.5-3-3-10 ram can be found cheap nowdays (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?desc... and compared to the oczrev2 and other $200+ modules is at least $60 cheaper, in some case as much as $100 cheaper. The 2-2-2 is only 2% faster than the 3-3-3, so does that extra $60+ really offer "reasonable performance benefits"? Reply
Jeff7181 - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - link#13... I wouldn't call that an error, I'd call that a difference in opinion. :) Reply
PrinceGaz - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkThere seems to be an error on page 4- "Almost all DDR400 these days is CAS 2 memory, but older memory may have a higher CAS latency..."
Shouldn't it say "Almost all DDR400 tested by AnandTech is premium CAS 2 memory, but CAS 2.5 and CAS 3 are more common..." Reply
Aquila76 - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkWhat about SLI configs? I think people looking SLI for an option may want a better idea how their CPU choice affects the dual GPU choice. Can you add SLI'd 6600GT, 6800GT, 6800 Ultra benches to the tables at the end of your article? Reply
Tiamat - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkYeah, although probably unrealistic, tossing AXP's into a "low end range" comparison along side would help some people. Overall, great article! Reply
Regs - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkI liked the Ram latency and 64-bit/128-bit test. But I'm wondering how would 2.5 Cas would perform? Makes sense to list it since a lot of value named brand ram modules come with 2.5 CAS. I would think it would perform in-between the two, but I'm having the slightest inkling that 2.5 CAS and 2.0 CAS will perform the same.
Can't wait to hear about multithreaded games for dual core CPUs. Reply
Jeff7181 - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkWell we can look at the other HL2 articles cause there's an XP3200 in those... but... this being a CPU oriented article I thought it would be nice to have that CPU included. Possibly even an XP3000 so we can get an idea for how it scales so I can estimate how my 2.48 GHz Mobile AXP compares. Reply
Avalon - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkYep, I felt there should have been an Athlon XP in there, since many users are still running XPs, and many enthusiasts are running overclocked mobile bartons. I just assumed that an XP 3200+ would be equivalent to the 2.8ghz P4 they benched, and went from there. Reply
arfan - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkI think Half Life 2 is more friendly than DOOM3. We can play HL2 with old video card (entry level video card). But to play DOO3 we need mid range video card :( Reply
blckgrffn - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkAgreed, there are a lot of us that are still running our XPs. Hard to beat the bang for the buck on that platform, but just how much are we missing out? Reply
Jeff7181 - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkAwesome article. Only thing I would have liked to see is an Athlon XP3200 (as outdated as it is) in the mix as well just to see where it would fall on the charts. Reply
acejj26 - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkGood to see Anand writing articles again. I get tired of seeing grammatical and spelling errors in articles written by some of the other guys here. Anand's articles are always well thought and just seem more professional. Good job. I also appreciated the Mac Mini article yesterday. Keep it up. Reply
Dranzerk - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkGood article, came out in the right time I was considering upgrading my ATI 9700 Pro/2.4ghz P4 to a athlon 64 or a 6600GT. Guess its the Nvidia 6600GT :D
The only thing holding me back (others to) is the AGP vs PCIx deal, but with NF4 chipset with AGP it should be a no brainer now to just stick with old AGP card and have lot of life in it for time to come. Reply
George Powell - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - linkAwesome article. Made for a really good morning read.
morcegovermelho - Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - link
There is an error on page 2. The value for athlon 3500+ at_coast_12 is 11.58.
Great article Reply


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Manitoba justice officials have dropped their case against a popular teacher and coach at Fort Richmond Collegiate accused of having a sexual relationship with a former student.
Regan Moses was arrested earlier this year and charged with sexual exploitation. She had remained free on bail pending the outcome of her case.
Her lawyer, Josh Weinstein, told the Free Press the Crown entered a stay of proceedings last week. No further explanation was provided to the court, although Weinstein said he doesn't believe there was ever a case against his client.
"She was adamant there was absolutely no sexual relationship with this student, either during his time as a student or after the fact," Weinstein said Friday.
The alleged offence covered a period from 2006 to 2008 with someone no longer attending the school, officials said at the time. The division sent home a letter to students and parents informing them of the allegations against Moses, a social studies teacher and coach who has taught at Fort Richmond Collegiate since 1999.
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Lewis Hamilton feels this season "could be a really special year" in light of Mercedes' crushing early-season form.
After setting the pace in testing and suggesting they were favourites for the titles, Mercedes lived up to the hype in the first grand prix in Australia earlier this month.
In changeable conditions in qualifying, Hamilton finished a third of a second quicker than nearest rival Daniel Ricciardo in his Red Bull.
Although a cylinder failed in the Mercedes engine to end Hamilton's race after just two laps, team-mate Nico Rosberg went on to blow away the opposition by 27 seconds around Melbourne's Albert Park to take an early championship lead.
Despite all within Mercedes playing down such performances, and these are of course very early days in the title race, Hamilton is aware of the potential within his car and he cannot help but be excited.
"In testing, initially because of the bad tyres, we had no grip and less downforce, so the car felt terrible when we first got in it," said Hamilton.
"But as you understood how to drive it, the feeling got better and better, although it's still not like we've got tonnes of grip like last year.
"Then to arrive at the first race, to be at the front, to be fighting, for Nico to be able to win with that pace, of course you feel, 'shoot, this could be a really special year'.
"The team have done an exceptional job. If you see what's going on back at the factory then you'll know why we are where we are.
"If you saw the great people we have, for me it's not a surprise we are where we are.
"Of course, you can never expect to have a 20-second lead. You would hope you can get a one or a five-second lead, or something like that, but not 20.
"I hope I can enjoy a lead like that. That's what we work for. (Sebastian) Vettel had the same kind of leads last year."
Hamilton and Mercedes know they are in a position where their rivals will hunt them down, but for now such a feeling of superiority is a dream for the 29-year-old.
"It is exactly that. It is exactly what you dream for," confirmed Hamilton.
"It is just one race, and I'm sure Renault (who power Red Bull among others) haven't turned their engine up to the max.
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"I genuinely feel the Red Bull car is probably as fast as ours, and if they get their engine situation as good as ours...I don't think they will because Mercedes is the best.
"Ferrari also have a good car, so we can't sit back and think we don't have to do anything more for the year because these guys will be chasing."
Albert Park is an anomalous venue given its unusual location, so the feeling is the Sepang International Circuit that stages the Malaysian Grand Prix on Sunday will be more representative of what could unfold for the remainder of the campaign.
There is also the extreme heat of around 34 degrees centigrade and high humidity to contend with.
"This is the most extreme track for us," said Hamilton.
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"The engine is going to be on hardcore limit this weekend, and it's going to be a real test of durability.
"I hope we're at the top, and as I've not won here before I really hope I can do that, and that's what I'm here to do."
Despite the cylinder failure in Hamilton's engine in Melbourne, the team are to re-use it for practice on Friday to determine whether they have fixed the fault.
With each driver allowed just five complete power units per season - with the engine just one of its components - sustainability of the previously defective part will ensure Hamilton avoids a potential grid penalty further into the campaign.


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AMD Expands Never Settle Reloaded Bundle; Adds Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon & Radeon HD 7770by Ryan Smith on 4/11/2013 3:45 PM EST
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jeffkibuule - Thursday, April 11, 2013 - linkAwesome. Makes me glad I went AMD to get a new video card. Go Team Red! Reply
techdawg667 - Thursday, April 11, 2013 - linkAm I the only one that wants cheaper GPUs rather than free games? I don't see many that share my opinion on the internet. Reply
tviceman - Thursday, April 11, 2013 - linkOf course you're not. But AMD is paying pennies on the dollar for each game key they include with their graphics cards so it's much more attractive for MOST people to see a video card with 3 free games at XXX price rather than a video card with no free games for $45 less.
Sell the game keys for 50-60% off and make up the difference that way. Reply
Kabij2289 - Friday, April 12, 2013 - linkThe problem with that is that AMD is making next to nothing for every graphics card they sell so they can't bring down pricing, so they used the next best thing, free stuff. Reply
jianadaren - Wednesday, May 01, 2013 - linkThat's not quite true. Their marginal cost on each graphics card is pretty low - they're making a good margin. It would make sense for them to drop prices if that resulted in increased sales. However, they're (probably wisely) opting to preserve their margin instead because a drop in prices wouldn't necessarily increase sales; nVidia would just drop prices themselves and then both companies would be making lower margins while industry sales would not rise significantly. Reply
yannigr - Friday, April 12, 2013 - linkMany here that they do not wont the games, they just sell them latter for 10-20 euros each, or 25-35 euros both. This is more than what you can expect from a reduction in card prices. And if you want the games, if you where going to buy them, you save much more money than that.
It is a win win scenario for AMD AND the customer. Reply
jianadaren - Wednesday, May 01, 2013 - linkYeah we all would, but games and GPUs are both extremely high-margin products in extremely risky high-fixed-cost industries. It costs them next to nothing to toss products in a bundle but those products have some value to most consumers. Compared to cutting prices, this way they can protect their margin while still adding value to customers; and considering AMD's financial position they really can't afford to sacrifice their margin unless they can somehow majorly ramp-up volume. Reply
Legbaa - Thursday, April 11, 2013 - linkThe year is 2007, it is the future. Reply
B3an - Sunday, April 14, 2013 - linkThe apocalypse has had an apocalypse. Reply
shing3232 - Thursday, April 11, 2013 - linkit is nice to see what they did.i just bought a 7970ghz with 2 free games, i love both of them Reply
Novaguy - Thursday, April 11, 2013 - linkNo joy for 7750 owners? I have an old computer that I just upgraded to the 7750 last week when the extremely slim low profile sapphire 7750 dropped below $90 AR.... Reply
shing3232 - Thursday, April 11, 2013 - linkreturn it, then buy it at amazon done Reply
FearfulSPARTAN - Friday, April 12, 2013 - linkWow thats pretty awsome, I was already thinking about buying this since it doesnt require far cry 3 since I have that on xbox but now its included in the never settle bundle, originally I was thinking that kinda sucks since I bought a 7850 two weeks ago but no big deal since I got a value six times the price of it but no amd is giving to everyone who has redeemed the never settle bundle. Say what you want about amd but that is pretty awsome, dought nvidia or anyone else would do that. Reply
yannigr - Friday, April 12, 2013 - linkIf Nvidia was doing that the games would have been locked with the cards serial number. If AMD hardware was found in the system games would start only in 800X600 resolution until that unholy hardware removed and burned with gasoline. Reply
WeaselITB - Friday, April 12, 2013 - linkHey Ryan -- On a related-unrelated note, when is GPU 2013 going to be added into Bench? It's been a while since the game/test lineup debuted with the Titan launch, but I haven't seen anything on the Bench side yet. Reply
Ryan Smith - Friday, April 12, 2013 - linkLet me talk to our developer. I don't know where that falls on their schedule right now. Reply
Anonymoussy - Sunday, April 14, 2013 - linkFake. I got 2 Asus 7770 2GBs; from Amazon and NewEgg and I ain't got shit but a lousy cpu mag sub coupon and a long back-order. Reply
demospirit - Saturday, April 20, 2013 - linki prefer a cheaper video card to a more expensive one that contain a free game Reply
Guspfiffer - Thursday, May 02, 2013 - linkI think going retroactive is for freaking awesome. How many other tech businesses do things to take care of existing customers rather than focusing on wooing new ones or treat good customers like cash flow streams for every single little thing they want to do. 78xx and above customers likely buy new parts all the time so treating us well with no strings attached is brilliant to me. Reply


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I learned a lot working there and I want to share a few tips with you:
- When picking out a style of sunglasses, always go with a shape that is opposite of your face shape/jaw line. For Example: If you have a round face, choose a square frame. Etc…
- Make sure they rest comfortably on your face. If they are resting on your cheeks or sliding off your nose, don't buy them. It will make them uncomfortable to wear.
- Don't wear them on the top of your head. It stretches the arms out and can lead to them breaking or not fitting correctly.
- Always use the cloth that comes with the sunglasses to clean them. Not your shirt or anything else. You will scratch the lens. Unless you don't care about them…wipe away. You can also use rubbing alcohol to clean the lens. Works great!