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ASRock FM2A85X Extreme6 Reviewby Ian Cutress on 12/3/2012 12:00 PM EST
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ivica - Monday, December 03, 2012 - linkis there for another reason. There are 3 options to set fast boot on ASrock motherboards, and fastest one disables "entering bios"... so, you can't access bios unless you clear CMOS or through that specific option in AXTU. Reply
DanNeely - Monday, December 03, 2012 - linkThis seems like an odd feature for a midrange board as opposed to one targeted at the sub-ambient cooling crowd.
That aside, I'm curious how it works. Does it just periodically spin the fans up long enough to cycle the air in the case; or is their a humidity sensor that detects when it needs to be cycled. Reply
automaticgiant - Monday, December 03, 2012 - linkI looked at the Realtek website and the feature list for each chip but was unable to determine why one is better other than the power saving. It sounds like "The ASUS gives us another USB 3.0 controller, the ALC892 audio codec and the 8111F NIC - in turn, the ASRock board gives an ASMedia USB 3.0 controller, the better ALC898 audio codec but the 8111E NIC" is saying that the E is crap, but I might be reading into it too much. Reply
Merlyn2220 - Monday, December 03, 2012 - link"Firstly, the amount of components on the top left of the motherboard is insane." This and the following statements are completely wrong. The extra components are likely tuned values of capacitors, resistors and ferrite beads intended to soften clock edges (reducing EMI) and improve high speed stability. As an engineer handling moderate-speed (sub-1GHz) clocks I can say with authority that these components are likely critical to the board's stability and performance. To say that having fewer components helps overclocking is pretty ignorant. /end rant. Reply
Rajinder Gill - Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - linkMost of those will be VRM related components. The amount of decoupling that needs to be used depends on the circuit. Generally, better VRM controllers and FETs need fewer output capacitors. The amount of surrounding circuitry for pulling legs of the buck controller down or up varies also - some buck controllers don't need a lot of external hardware to function. Reply
cosmotic - Monday, December 03, 2012 - linkIn that last product shot, is that on glass or what? Reply
Wardrop - Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - linkNo. It's the official ASRock product shot. You can tell it's two images layered one on top of the other. They've just added a very rough reflection and shadow effect in Photoshop. Reply
abianand - Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - linkWhat is AMD A10-4800K?
- Power Consumption and Post Times page Reply
cyrusfox - Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - linkWell it is obvious he meant the 5800k from the other pages but yes that is a typo in that table there. Reply
slacr - Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - linkI wish there were high end FM1-2 motherboards that include more than the standard 6-7 SATA ports. For a HTPC/storage solution with lower power consumption than my current P45/Q6600 setup, having to go really high end Z77 or similar in order to get to the 9-10 SATA port cards, or buying separate (expensive) sata controllers is not great. Reply
ForeverAlone - Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - linkWhy the dual PCI-E slots? None of the APU processors are powerful enough to properly support crossfireX or SLI anyway. Pointless.
Even the A10-5800K isn't going to have enough power to support a proper Crossfire setup. Crossfiring anything below a 6850 is a stupid idea. An A10 won't support crossfired 6850s. Reply
CeriseCogburn - Sunday, December 09, 2012 - linkDon't worry g, you are not alone - you are correct.
It's called AMD fanboyism - and the marketing PR team decided so long as they hack out the insane non workable boards, the amd fanboys will buy them, telling themselves all is well in fanboyville. Reply
Nil Einne - Monday, March 25, 2013 - linkWhoever told you two PCI express is only used for graphics cards appears to be the real fanboy here .... Reply
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xerces8 - Thursday, December 20, 2012 - linkHow is 12 sec a fast boot time?
I have a cheap Medion PC which also has 12 seconds from power switch to boot menu (the one loaded from the boot sector).
2 seconds is fast. (my previous Asus netbook had such boot/POST times)
But kudos for actually measuring this usually neglected property.
PS: For more accurate measuring configure the boot loader to present a menu. Or even beep (should be trivial with GRUB). Also recording the measurement on video should make it easier to read the timings) Reply
Nil Einne - Monday, March 25, 2013 - linkCombining DVI-D with D-sub isn't going to work since the D-sub is supposed to be usable with the HDMI and DVI-D for triple monitor/Eyefinity support. (While some dislike D-sub for these purposes because of the quality loss due to the D-A-D conversion steps it's still fairly popular because many monitors still have D-sub ports but lack Displayport and they can't be bothered spending for an active converter to get HDMI/DVI from the Displayport.) Reply


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10. Re: ICS UPDATE FOR HTC REZOUNDjeffc73 Apr 6, 2012 1:33 PM (in response to nascrnanna88)
What is the purpose of google coming out with these new OS's if it is going to take forever to get them? push out the OTA for ICS already Verizon. They have to have some kind of timeline on when it will be out that they could announce (even if it is an approximate time within say 2 weeks).. How does Best Buy get a "leaked announcement" if the rumors are not somewhat true. Quit teasing us and just do it. One thing I give credit to Apple for... they say when and it happens.
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Google creates the ICS operating system. They then have to release it to the manufacturers (HTC in this case). HTC has to make it work with their custom UI that their phones use. Test and retest. Then they send to Verizon for their testing. All parties need to be satisfied with the update before it is released as an OTA to the customers. This takes time.
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13. Re: ICS UPDATE FOR HTC REZOUNDWildman Apr 6, 2012 6:22 PM (in response to Ann154)
Boy, feels like we was on the same page Ann , your post was on the money but you know even with that information being given it wont change threads like this... Boy I wish it would...
14. Re: ICS UPDATE FOR HTC REZOUNDAnn154 Apr 6, 2012 6:26 PM (in response to Wildman)
I know exactly what you mean, Wildman.
15. Re: ICS UPDATE FOR HTC REZOUNDmichaeljtimko Apr 6, 2012 6:59 PM (in response to Wildman)
I'm just about ready to update my Rezound with the Release Candidate version that can be found on the web. The OS has been around since November and now its April. They have had five freakin months. Just how long do we have to wait before Mount Olympus decides us mere mortals can have what we have been promised.
16. Re: ICS UPDATE FOR HTC REZOUNDWildman Apr 12, 2012 11:37 PM (in response to michaeljtimko)
All unofficial released version still have a number of bugs and the official release is intended to be resolved before release, if you choose to announce you void your warrenty but that isnt for this forum.... It is against TOS here...
Besides RC means Release Cadidate but if bugs get brought to the developers attention they would work on those issues before release, sometimes some of the bugs are more extreme than a simply code change to resolve. Besides the device released with ICS has been having issue what make you think the updated version will work less problematic?
17. Re: ICS UPDATE FOR HTC REZOUNDmichaeljtimko Apr 7, 2012 2:27 AM (in response to Wildman)
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the bugs can't be too extreme on the Galaxy Nexus otherwise the phone would not be currently for sale. Not to get off on another tangent, but I got the Rezound because it was the fastest phone in Verizon's stable and I was disappointed when the iPhone did not go LTE (i.e. iPhone 4S). When and if the next iPhone comes out, I will probably get it because the one thing that can be said about Apple is that they keep their word. They said IOS was going to be on a certain day and their it was. There's none of this oh we don't know, its under evaluation, or it coming soon. That's why Apple rules the Smartphone market.
18. Re: ICS UPDATE FOR HTC REZOUNDInvestorRic Apr 7, 2012 8:17 AM (in response to michaeljtimko)
I tried to download 3 times. File is about 610MB and each time the file is corrupt. Not a valid zip file so no way to install.
If anyone has a link that actually works, would like to try it.
19. Re: ICS UPDATE FOR HTC REZOUNDWildman Apr 7, 2012 9:58 AM (in response to InvestorRic)
InvestorRic wrote:
I tried to download 3 times. File is about 610MB and each time the file is corrupt. Not a valid zip file so no way to install.
If anyone has a link that actually works, would like to try it.
Once again I have to point out the update is unofficial which means information to this can not be discussed here because it breaks forums rules and TOS policies.. So to your question about a link isn't possible, besides you have just pointed out why it not allowed, you have tried to get it and the update was corrupt and corrupt update leads to bricked device and no warranty..


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Guild Wars 2 beta, your impressions
I've been really waiting for this game. Original Guild Wars is for me one of the player-character defining games, I loved it, spent several thousand hours in it my best PVP memories come from there.
And two days ago I played Guild Wars 2. I didn't really do that much research about how the game will be like since I didn't want to spoil the positive or negative surprise, I just had the basic knowledge about classes, races, dynamic events and some WvW.
Firstly, what I did like:
+ the idea of dynamic events instead of pick-up quests and the impact it has in the world, even though it's short-termed
+ art style
+ the map and the fluid transitions between
+ lot of polished and convenient mechanics, ie. you don't have to, for example, click on the body you want to loot, you just stand nearby and press F to do it. Comfy.
And what I didn't like
- skill system
It's beyond belief to be honest how can you can go from Guild Wars 1, which had fully customizable skill-bar, where you could make any character you desired, from an archer-healer to melee elementalist, focus your toon around any elite skill you wanted, mix whichever classes you chose. That's what I loved the most about Guild Wars, the freedom of character creation and usage, so many options, so much variability, nothing set in stone.
In Guild Wars 2 whole left side of your skill bar is locked to your weapon. Longbow has pre-defined 4 attack skills, great sword has pre-defined 4 attack skills, you can't do jack about it, nothing to be changed to suit your style more or alter the general idea of your character build. I played my ranger to like level 14, I'm bored to death already with the skills I'm forced to use. Surely I could just switch to shortbow, but that doesn't change the fact that you don't define your character and his weapon choice, your weapon choice defines your character and your gameplay, two guys using shortbows will have exactly same main skills. I can't imagine the boredom of the next 65 levels of using same 4 skills.
Apart from those pre-defined "main" skills you have your second weapon, ie. melee weapon for ranger, which has another pre-defined 4 skills of it's own, you can, and most people probably do, switch to it in combat, that's one positive. The fifth skill is healing, everyone has it, you can't put anything in that slot apart from a healing spell, you can pick one of three or four.
And then, finally, you have 3 "utility" slots, which you can change. The problem is that there's a total of maybe 15 skills to choose from, for ranger about 5 of them is, from what I could tell, PVE only. On top of that you have traits, which are utility too.
I think by now you're starting to get the picture where this game went from fully customizable 8 slot skillbar and 120-140 skills per profession and you could have two.
- pets
This probably will be fixed - can't imagine what happens to ranger class if it won't - but the pet AI is horrible. Pathfinding generally fails in PVP, it's so bad that I resorted to using ranged pets only, ie. spiders. Mind that each pet has an unique ability which is crucial to play ranger effectively. And most of the time you cant use it because your pet ran off and got stuck or killed.
- the general paradigm of how PVP looks like
Mind this is a completely personal opinion, so some people might take this as a feature.
Everyone has tons of HP, it takes literally forever, or at least a minute, to down anyone who's half-competent and able to heal himself (mash "5" button). And the arenas are pretty small. I don't think I've had a proper 1v1 fight ever in GW2, it always ends up with someone else joining up and it's a gank this way or other way. It simply takes too long, even for burst-damage gank-character like thief. In fact this more reminds me of League of Legends, where too fights are so prolonged and skills do so little damage. This wasn't the case in first Guild Wars, it was way more dynamic and entertaining. I do remember my ranger being able to kill full-hp cloth wearing enemies like mesmers in under 10 seconds if absent proper healing.
Apart from the lenght of fights, I got to say that there are times where I have no idea what the fuck is going on on my screen. The general traffic jam of overlapping skills, effects, explosions and hell knows what else make it simply overwhelming, add to that the fact pretty much everyone keeps rolling on the ground to avoid damage or escape from melee range (who the hell invented this mechanics, jesus), knockdowns and knockbacks are quite common, meaning people are flying back and forth, and in overall you have a one huge indistinguishable Vietnam on your screen.
- PVP modes
WvW is a massive zerg from what I could tell, reminds me much of Isle of Conquest from Warcraft, not my cup of tea, didn't test if further.
Arenas: either I'm blind or there is only one mode available in beta, the conquest, where are three points to be captured and held. Why no team-deathmatch arena? Why no, say, CTF or something innovative instead of this domination mode which is simply Arathi Basin in Tyria?
From what I could tell, so far there's no Hall of Heroes type of mode, though there are tournaments which arent yet available. From the description though its the same conquest-type thing but with premade teams. I simply have nothing to play in here.
- certain animations
Guild Wars 1 veterans will certainly remember that ranger had a very good looking and satisfying to use bow shooting animation. In GW2 it was replaced with blurred, pew-pew kind of thing. Annoying. On the plus side pistol animations and sound are superb.
- some little things
My camera often freaks out, it's a technical issue related to this whole and stupid roll-dodge thing, it looks like it had mouse acceleration on during it.
Game optimization is terrible at this point, but I get that it's a beta and will be drastically fixed.
This game has so little to do with original Guild Wars that I can't say it's a legitimate sequel with straight face. It probably is, or will be, a decent game on it's own, but not as a worthy continuation. I surely wouldn't pay a montly fee for this, at this point I'm not even sure if I'm going to buy it.
It's hard for me not to notice how badly this game is trying to challenge World of Warcraft, it lost it's magic to me with this horrible skill system. It just feels more like just another MMO with innovative mechanics in some parts, than Guild Wars. It's not revolutionary.
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The argument Arena Net used to defend the new skill systems holds true in my opinion: While the old skill system numerically allowed for more combinations of skills, most of those theoretically possible builds weren't feasible. So locking some skills in sets certainly decreases the number of possible skill combinations and rules out some exotic yet feasible combinations but most of the skill combinations dropped in this way wouldn't have been feasible and thus won't be missed. Hopefully this will reduce the FOTM approach to builds that plagued guild wars, where some experimentally inclined individuals would pioneer builds only to be copied and varied by the masses who were incapable of wrestling with the sheer amount of skill choices to develop a competitive build on their own.
And why you didn't try out different weapons is absolutely beyond me. Even the differences between longbows and shortbows allow for completely different playstyles. The shortbow is a weapon that forces you to approach your positioning much more tactically. A shortbow and an alternate melee weapon set make for a very active and interesting playstyle with lots of dodging. I quite enjoyed if after growing tired of the long distance arrow spam that defines the longbow.
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i'm woefully underwhelmed. the parts are nice, i suppose, and it's all very pretty and well put together, but it's just boring. i booted up my client right when the event opened, made my character, got all excited, played for about an hour and realized i just had zero desire to keep playing. i did of course, trying out various things (pvp, wvw, progressing further in the pve content, using different classes, etc.) and they were all completely uninspiring.
perhaps i have finally outgrown mmos, but gw2 is nothing revolutionary. it's different, sure, but not in any way that improves on the old formulas (from what i've seen).
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Anyway, I cannot be bothered gushing, but it's damn fun. It's got some serious beta troubles (stuff like scaling of bosses etc is messed up and the algorithm needs sorting) but nothing that couldn't be fixed within a month (so probably for next beta weekend).
The game IS brutally difficult if you don't know how to play, though.
My only issue is the lack of a greataxe. :(
I played at a friends house for a few hours yesterday and wasn't as impressed as I hoped I would be. It still feels like any other mmo, the animations are nicer though. I still had fun but it's definitely nothing revolutionary. I'll probably still get this since lots of friends will be playing, but maybe I'll just get Max Payne 3 and Torchlight 2.
It's the most fun I've had in an MMO since I first started playing World of Warcraft all those years ago. The world is really well crafted and gorgeous. I feel like a god (at least, above water. I feel all bar useless underwater but then, as a land based animal you'd expect that anyhow), the moves portray real power. I'm compelled to continue playing which is something I've not experienced in a persistent world in a long time. I like that it promotes group play, the only other MMO where I've played primarily in groups has been EVE, for obvious reasons. I also like that it promotes actually doing things. Killing mobs gives you so little experience in comparison to helping out NPCs or following your story, or even just exploring places not often visited.
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I couldn't be bothered to play more than 50 minutes. Perhaps the Charr-Intro is just unfinished, but I felt like I was dropped into the game without any sort of explanation or tutorial. I literally didn't know how to target enemies; clicking on them sometimes selected them, sometimes it did nothing. I played a fire-Elementalist and got confused regarding the area of effect of my skills/spells. THe second and third skill/spell "unlocked" for some reason (I think it had something to do with experience, though I did not level up (or if I did, I did not notice it)).
All in all i feel underwhelmed, but perhaps I should just try rolling a human.
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It's especially difficult since the combat is COMPLETELY different from your normal run of the mill MMO. I don't get the people saying it's not. It's closer to fighting in a fighting game than an MMO. You can say it's tab targetting, but when I can select someone behind me and still hit someone in front of me? Yeah, it's really not.
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I only played the Nord, but generally the stuff I liked is:
The world events (pretty good - got to the frozen maw and there is a contested zone event that kicks off their and probably one of the best events in the lower level zones as well)
The new skill system. Yeah it was nice to have multiple skills to buy in GW1 but as some of the previous posters pointed out, they weren't always that effective and some were just plain useless.
What I don't like is:
There isn't an easy way of pulling groups for story instances, which if your interested in story content could be a large - point, there is local but its not the same as a group stone or something that allows you to look for a party quickly. If they added this it would be great.
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As far as I worked out you unlock weapon skills using a weapon, which I guess makes sense - you tend to get your first primary weapon depending on your class right away and then unlock the next one in a few levels (or if you get lucky and pick one up from a region event)
In terms of the PvP criticism - one thing the beta doesn't have is their true PVP mode, the 5v5 tournaments. This is the successor to GvG/Tombs and is going to be the real heart of the PvP scene. The current 8v8 maps are just to replace the random arenas as something fun to jump into for new pvpers. We'll have to see how 5v5 shapes up before judging the PvP.
In terms of skills -The addition of the dodge mechanic and the removal of dedicated healers is fantastic, both work really well. They also did need to cut down on the number of skills from GW1 drastically, it didn't help gameplay turning it into Build Wars. However saying that they could definitely use some more thought on combos between classes, conditions and chaining dazes/knockbacks are the only two right now, more diversity would be good.
WvW I did find a bit underwhelming, as the bigger zerg wins and you spend most of your time fighting a door rather than a group of players. However I can see WvW being a bit of diverting fun when played in a 20-30 size guild group on mumble.
If I was paying a sub for GW2 I'd be worried, but as a single payment game with vanity store it's pretty great.
I actually loved it, and cannot wait until June. It has its deal of problems sure, but I can safely say I played an mmo and had fun for the first time since 2006.
I hope it has longevity to it.
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It's basically Warhammer Online....
"dynamic" events = public quests
"world" PVP = Keep PVP
The combat system isn't as fluid or responsive as WoW, so I don't like it. I don't like the generic Asian like art style or the story stuff which just seems lacklustre and the races don't appeal to me. I also find the world to be too instanced, zned by too many teleports and it just kills the exploration for me. The lack of mounts is another weird thing, you have to run miles in The Eternal Battlegrounds which just makes it so boring. On top of that it's all about the Zerg like Warhammer Online so I wouldn't be surprised if it dies like Ilum in SWTOR.
It's just the same old MMO you've played before...
Limited world PVP
Linear scripted PVE (not dynamic at all, it's just public quests from WAR) and if you do the quests it's just basic "fetch this" or "kill this" lol, the quests feel more dated than WoW's Cataclysm quests.
I don't get the hype but whatever it doesn't have a subscription fee so it'll probably have millions of people playing.
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Angel and demon, man and beast art thou,
Yea, thou art all thou dost appear to be!
I didn't play the beta but I was shocked by how bad it looks. For some reason I thought it's a much prettier game, at least on par with Age of Conan. Wasn't Guild Wars one of the best looking games all those years ago? This one looks like Kingdoms of Amalur :/
I really enjoyed it. My reasons:
- good combat system. No tanks or healers and the use of dodge means I can't just sit spamming skills. I need to tank for myself by weaving damage avoidance abilities (blindness, magnetic shield) with dodging, and aoe snares with kiting. It makes for a much more involving experience.
- massive open world to explore with lots of secrets.
- because it removes barriers to playing.
What do I mean by that? I'll give some examples:
1. Once I've visited a location I can teleport back there instantly at any time. No more "I'll be 15 minutes on the flightpath sorry mate".
2. There is no gear grind. I can play whatever dungeons or pvp I want without feeling like I have to play content that I don't want to in order to reach that stage. I won't have to run some shitty dungeon twenty times to get 160 expertise rating so I can tank the Caverns of Crap.
3. Level scaling to zones means I can help friends out that are a lower level and get experience and karma rewards relevant to my level.
4. When your questing you automatically share experience progress. No more looking on in envy as that guy and his high level friend do the quest but you aren't in the party. Just join in and you will get credit. No more 'mob stealing'.
5. Everyone can take part in a dynamic event at any time, the static questing of traditional MMO's is gone. GW2 doesn't wait for the player, it carries on without you. No more trying to play with people but "sorry but I'm on the next quest in the chain", or, "you need to go kill sixty million rabbits to do this quest with me, even though we are both right here right now".
6. No more sitting round for an hour trying to get a fucking tank for a dungeon, then the fucking twat goes afk 10 minutes in because he's the tank and he does what the hell he wants. Your obsolete tanks, you god damn pricks.
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Topic: Periampullary Mass???
So my dad sent me his results. It is stating that a periampullary mass decreased from 2.7 cm to 1.8cm.
Is Periampullary Mass considered pancreatic cancer or bile duct cancer?
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So my dad sent me his results. It is stating that a periampullary mass decreased from 2.7 cm to 1.8cm.
Is Periampullary Mass considered pancreatic cancer or bile duct cancer?
crissie....These periampullary tumors arise in the vicinity of the ampulla of Vater. As far as I know it is difficult to determine if this is a primary cancer or whether it originated from either, the pancreas, duodenum, distal common bile duct of the Ampulla of Vater structure itself.
You had mentioned that the doctors call it bile duct cancer hence, they must have determined that the primary Cholangiocarcinoma. Have they mentioned to you as to how they made this determination?
No I don't know how they made the decision. My dad is in MN and I am in TX. I thought my dad said they think it came from the gallbladder or something. He has lymph node involvement but no other masses. They said they can't do surgery....he is on palliative care. Gem/Cis every other week and replacing his stent every 3 months. He is tolerating it well and after his first 2 months the tumor shrank from 2.5 to 1.7 cm. Now it is stable at that size for about 5 months.
In reality...the cancer could be pancreatic and invaded the bile duct? I am just trying to wrap my head around this.
This is what I found online:
Periampullary tumours are those that arise within 2 cm of the ampulla of Vater in the duodenum
Tumours that fall under this group includes four main types of tumours 1,4
• pancreatic head / uncinate process tumours - includes pancreatic ductal adenocarcinoma involving head and uncinate process of the pancreas
•lower common bile duct tumours - includes types of cholangiocarcinoma involving the intra-pancreatic distal bile duct
• ampullary tumours - those originating from the ampulla of Vater itself
•periampullary duodenal carcinoma
Although patients with periampullary tumors have similar symptoms at presentation, they exhibit different clinical outcomes according to the origin of these tumours.
Crissie, when my husband was diagnosed 8 years ago at 73 yrs old, that is exactly where his CC was located. He had a Whipple Surgery where they removed the head of the Pancreas, the Gall Bladder, the Duodenum and rearranged some other stuff. This was called Distal CC. It did return 2 times to the area where the Duodenum used to be. They did remove the head of the Pancreas as that was the best way to see if it invaded the Pancreas and it had not. It did buy him 5 1/2 years as they never recommended chemo. radiation. At one point on the first return of the CC he had Cyber Knife. The CC emanated from the Duodenum/Ampulla of Vater. I am not understanding why they can't do a Whipple? Take care and be strong.
He also has lymph node involvement. From the start they said he was not a candidate for surgery. He is going to Mayo so I trust them.
Crissie, good, good, good! Can't wait to hear what they say.
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What a ridiculous thread.I've had many Canon bodies starting with the 30D and presently the 1Dx. Anyone moaning about the poor sad 1Dx has never used one... it is simply spectacular. I find it hard to believe that people whining for ridiculous megapixel counts either need them (for what exactly, how many images of theirs have suffered) or prefer the tradeoffs involved.So technology keeps moving on and there will be a next great thing but, personally, I have 0 interest in more megapixels, don't need more fps, and am quite delighted with the recent new capabilities in exposure and tracking.
***Is the 1DX really the Flagship Stills Camera?***I ask this question because, as I sit here typing, I am thinking ... is there a camera which is uncompromising in image quality, features, and performance? When I read in the forums and search online I find TONS of critisizm about Canon bodies, Canon lenses, and the company. Yet, I have Canon, I've always had Canon. Ever since Andre Agessi said I should.So, I throw this question out there. Does Canon make a body that is just flat out great? IQ is NASA good? Features like Voltron. Performs like a river dancer? I ask because it seems like every body has some level of compromise. I mean if I look at every option (except for sensor) just on paper, their lineup should go 1DX, 7D, 5D3, 6D. But if I look just at sensor it seems like it should be 5D3, 6D, 1Dx, 7D. If I look at build then 1DX, 5D3, 7D, (everything else).There just doesnt seem to be one camera in Canon's lineup which is 'The Best Camera Ever'.Maybe that is the point, because ambiguity = moola for Canon. Agessi said the Rebel was best. Then his hair fell out. Karma???
If Flagship = top camera that I aspire to, it would have to be the 1D-C. All the yummy goodness of the 1D-X and then some.
below is an example of getting nice images without flagship...example: http://blog.zhangjingna.com/2010/10/equipment-and-where-money-comes-from.html
Quote from: iaind on April 04, 2013, 03:18:15 PMThere can only be one flagship in a fleet and it's the 1DXI call that camera a fast sport camera with 18Mp resolution.
There can only be one flagship in a fleet and it's the 1DX
surely - a 'flagship camera' is the model almost every one aspires to own?Having tried the 1DsIII - i was glad i opted for 2x 5D2. Twice the kit for the bucks (and the 5D2 did not lose much to the 1DsIII except maybe build quality and robustness). In fact that very argument is the reason the 1DsIII died an early death for most wedding and landscape photographers!The same would apply to the 1DX - having tried, i make no apologies in saying i would love to own one - soooo many benefits over a 5D3, but the simple fact is, were i to get out today with £5k for a new body, i would come home with 2x 5D3's & a battery grip for one of the bodies.What i find really interesting is how ALL manufacturers seem to be creating blurred lines between 'flagship model' and what most people consider more than acceptable - Nikon D4 and Nikon D800? Which would you call the 'flagship model'?


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Since winning the 2016 Olivier Award for Best New Musical, Kinky Boots is now the winner of every major Best Musical award and is the hottest show in town! With songs by Grammy and Tony winning pop icon Cyndi Lauper, this fabulous musical celebration is about the friendships we discover, and the belief that you can change the world when you change your mind. Inspired by true events, Kinky Boots takes you from the factory floor to the glamorous catwalks of Milan. Charlie Price, played by David Hunter (Once; One Man, Two Guvnors), is struggling to live up to his father's expectations and continue the family business of Price & Son. With the shoe factory's future hanging in the balance, help arrives in the unlikely but spectacular form of Lola, played by Olivier award-winner Matt Henry, a fabulous performer in need of some sturdy new stilettos.
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JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - Mayor Alvin Brown and the city of Jacksonville negotiating team on Monday unveiled his pension reform proposal for police employees in a collective bargaining meeting with the Fraternal Order of Police. The plan is estimated to save $1.5 billion over 30 years, according to city officials.
"I greatly respect our brave public safety officers and the important work they do for our community," Brown said in a news release. "In this period of financial challenge, our current retirement system is no longer sustainable. It is broken and we have to fix it so we can protect the long-term economic security of public safety employees while also protecting taxpayers."
City officials say the numbers tell the story of the need for retirement reform. They say that currently, the Police and Fire Pension Fund has a high level of unfunded liability.
In October 2003, assets in the fund were worth $400 million less than its total pension obligations, according to a news release. By October 2011, that deficit had grown to nearly $1.4 billion, according to the release. Under-funding earned the fund an "F" grade in a 2011 study by the LeRoy Collins Institute at Florida State University.
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The city's retirement challenges also have huge budget implications, according to the release. In fiscal year 2010-11, the city's annual contribution to the fund for employee pension benefits was $76.1 million. In the budget that City Council recently passed for fiscal year 2012-13, that obligation had grown to $121.3 million -- a nearly 60 percent increase over just two years ago, according to the release.
The city said it will devote nearly 13 percent of its entire general fund budget for 2012-13 to the fund's pension obligations -- more than twice the amount that taxpayers spend to operate the Department of Public Works, according to the release.
"For years, the city of Jacksonville has done public safety employees and taxpayers a disservice," Brown said. "Public safety officers were promised retirement benefits, but those benefits were never fully funded. As a result, taxpayers have been asked to carry an increasing burden of city retirement benefits. We have to get real and solve these problems if we want to ensure financial sustainability for our city."
According to the release, Brown's plan would address those challenges in two ways. First, it would address the "chronic underfunding of pension benefits" by making the assumed rate of return on fund investments more realistic.
"Right now, the fund assumes that its investments will earn a 7.75 percent return -- an assumption that experts agree is too optimistic in the current economic climate," the release reads. "Mayor Brown proposes to lower that assumed rate of return to 6.9 percent -- a rate that PFPF investment advisors project is more realistic."
Second, Brown proposes benefit changes that would apply to all new employees and many current employees. His proposal will not affect any former city of Jacksonville employees who are already retired or any current employees who are already eligible for full retirement at the time the new plan is implemented, according to the release. It will not affect retirement benefits already earned by any current employees through the date the plan is implemented, although it will modify the future benefits they earn after the new plan is implemented, according to the release.
This year, Brown and four unions -- the Fraternal Order of Police, the American Federation of State County and Municipal Employees, the Jacksonville Association of Fire Fighters, and the Jacksonville Supervisors Association -- reached agreement on four new labor contracts that are projected to produce nearly $33 million in combined savings for the next three years. Those agreements, ratified by City Council, did not specifically address retirement benefits but required that the city and unions hold meetings over the balance of 2012 to reopen and discuss that subject to see if agreement is possible.
Brown's retirement reform proposal for PFPF employees was presented at the first of those meetings with the FOP on Monday. He will present his retirement reform proposal for AFSCME employees in the General Employees Pension Plan at a collective bargaining meeting on Tuesday.
"When my administration took office, we were able to work with the unions on new contracts that protect both dedicated public safety officers and hardworking taxpayers," Brown said. "Those successful negotiations proved that anything is possible when we work together. Given what is at stake for Jacksonville, I am hopeful that we will use the same spirit of teamwork to accomplish retirement reform that protects our employees and our citizens."
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On June 1, nine Democrats will compete for spots in four divisions of the 1st Judicial District Court, which oversees Santa Fe, Los Alamos and Rio Arriba counties. SFR asked all of the candidates (four of whom are sitting judges through appointment) to respond in writing to a questionnaire about their races; responses to four of their questions are below. SFR also edited responses with our internal style guide for consistency.
1. Please describe how your professional experiences qualify you for this position.
2. What personal qualities do you bring to the court that voters should know about?
3. What improvements do you think are needed at the court?
4. How can New Mexico improve the ethical standards for its judges?
5. As a judge, how do you (or would you) handle cases that touch upon your personal beliefs?
6. What is your strategy for dealing with the rising numbers of pro se litigants?
7. The First District Court gained a new judgeship this year, but it came at the expense of a dedicated hearing officer position for domestic violence cases. Do you believe the state Legislature should restore funding for the hearing officer position, or is the current arrangement adequate? Please explain.
8. What do you believe is the single biggest cause of the case backlog at the First District Court, and what will you do to address it?
Peter V Culbert, 65 (Division 2)
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2. Integrity; fairness, intelligence, service to the community, and 30 years' of hard work.
3. The most important thing is to provide prompt and fair justice to all the people. A judge needs to get his docket organized and move cases along. I will work to assure the people that each case is handled fairly and promptly and urge all lawyers appearing before me to work towards this goal.
4. The standards are there. The people need to elect judges such as myself who will adhere to the highest ethical standards.
5. Judges are required by law to set aside their personal beliefs which would in any way impact upon the facts or law applicable to a particular case. However, qualities such as integrity, fairness, decisiveness, and basic common sense are important qualities in a judge which should be applied in every case.
6. I believe that the newly–created judge position will help with the overload created by litigants who appear in court who cannot afford an attorney. I will work with the other judges to develop informational materials in both English and Spanish to help persons without attorneys to understand court processes.
7. Given the finances available, the creation of the new judge position is probably all we can hope for at this time. However, if additional funding became available from the Legislature, reinstating a hearing officer for domestic violence cases would be very helpful.
8. The single biggest cause of case backlog is both the number of cases being filed and the ability of the court to move them along promptly to a fair resolution. I will work to urge attorneys as well as litigant appearing without counsel to attend mandatory pre-trial mediation and settlement conferences. I will not tolerate frivolous motions filed to delay prosecution of cases. I will do my best to set trial settings and pre-trial deadlines early on and make the parties adhere to the deadlines.


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Another year is down and that means we have a new round of Community Award winners.Here are the people that you voted in as the most helpful and/or knowledgeable community members for 2013.
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Please join me in congratulating the winners. It's you guys that make this place great!
Congratulations to all the winners! Hope that I win the next time round. But it was good to be nominated which is an honour in itself. Once again thanking all the members who have helped make sitepoint forums a great place to resolve issues and discuss topics.
Congratulations to those who have won their particular award for the first time.
For those who have won their award before, perhaps next time you will consider not standing for the award so as to give someone else an opportunity to win it.
Well done guys! All are well deserved.
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I can't wait to see how great those new badges will look.
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Congratulations all - thanks for making SPF a great place to visit.
Congratulations to all the winners!Thanks to all that participated, nominated and voted.Thanks to all of you who participate every day in the discussions, and that make the SP forums the great place it is.
And thanks to all of you that voted me. I'm very happy to have won an award, and the community spirit award at that! Most appropriate for a community team leader
Yip - that's definitely the best one. :lol:
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The Liberty men's soccer program will host an alumni game in conjunction with the university's Homecoming Weekend Festivities, Oct. 19 from 9-11 a.m. at the Thomas Indoor Soccer Center. All alumni are invited to attend. Warm-ups will be from 8:30-9 a.m.
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View from the media gallery Thursday night during warmup for the Canadiens' forgettable home opener.
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Canadiens practice is underway in Brossard, the Colorado Avalanche having cancelled their ice on the second sheet. Fans have gone to work and school; only a handful ringing the glass above the rink.
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2013 has certainly been a wild year for Justin Bieber ... but was all the drama enough to push the superstar into early retirement?
During an interview with L.A.'s Power 106 on Tuesday, Justin exclaimed his upcoming album, "Journals," would be his last.
"I'm actually, uh, I'm retiring man, I'm retiring, yeah," said the 19-year-old. "I think I'm probably going to quit music."
Sources close to Bieber insisted yesterday the singer was "joking."
However, Justin's manager, Scooter Braun, admitted on Wednesday he would like the singer to take time away from the spotlight once his film "Believe" hits theaters on Christmas.
"I'm telling him after this movie, I want him to take next year off and just take a break," Braun noted during an interview on KIIS FM's "On Air With Ryan Seacrest." "He can still live in the studio and work on the next album, which is what he wants to do, but I just want him to take some time to himself, so he can have that time alone, cause he's been working since he was 12 years old."
Braun also noted that the film, "Believe," will address the controversy that has followed Justin this year.
"Over the last nine months, Justin got into trouble sometimes -- a few times -- and we started seeing this thing going on, of just the press over and over again got into a place where they could get away with anything," Scooter explained. "And there's a point where you just can't respond to every single rumor, so we just had to let it go. I could sit there and address every single one, but it was ridiculous so we decided with this movie we are going to address it all at once.
"Our director Jon Chu sat down with Justin for a three-hour interview and asked him really hard questions ... and we decided instead of running away from the issue, we are just going to go after it head-on," continued Braun.
The world premiere of "Believe" is tonight in Los Angeles, so it's likely Justin will clarify that "retire" comment for all those Beliebers out there.
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Ozuna, Salty go deep in ninth; Eovaldi allows five runs over five frames
MIAMI -- The opportunity to rise two games over .500 for the first time since June 17 escaped the Marlins on Wednesday, as they dropped the series finale to the Rangers, 5-4, at Marlins Park.
They came close to ending up on the other side of that outcome, though. As has become the custom, they put together a dramatic ninth inning in which Marcell Ozuna and Jarrod Saltalamacchia hit two solo homers off Rangers closer Neftali Feliz.
The rally just fell short this time.
"We can't wait until the ninth inning every game," Giancarlo Stanton said. "... We're not afraid to make it interesting, I'll tell you that. That's kind of the way the season has been going."
But the early hole in which starter Nathan Eovaldi put his team kept the momentum away from Miami for most of the game. Eovaldi lasted just five innings after giving up nine hits, five runs (four earned) and one walk on 81 pitches.
Despite getting two quick outs to start the game, Eovaldi allowed four straight hits in the first, including a double from J.P. Arencibia that bounced off the wall in left field and brought in Alex Rios.
On the relay home, shortstop Adeiny Hechavarria couldn't corral Christian Yelich's throw. The error gave Adrian Beltre just enough time to score the second run of the inning. A third run came in before Eovaldi could get out of the jam with his 28th pitch of the frame.
"We've talked about with Nate big innings," manager Mike Redmond said. "He's had big innings and they've cost us. Had we gotten through those innings earlier with some zeros, we could've won that game.
"It's just a matter of as he continues to mature as a pitcher and figure it all out, is just limiting that inning. It just seems to be that one inning. That's unfortunately part of the learning process."
Eovaldi's inability to locate his fastball carried into the second. After allowing a leadoff single, he recorded two outs, but let the fourth batter get away on a seven-pitch walk.
Rios took advantage of Eovaldi's erraticism and blooped a two-run double to shallow right field at a spot down the first-base line that Stanton couldn't get to fast enough. He tried to slide in an attempt to catch the ball before it hit the ground, but it skipped into his glove instead.
"It's a tough play, but you've got to make those if you're going to continue to win games and close games like that," Stanton said.
Although the defense let Eovaldi down a few times, the offense didn't do much to pick him up either. Down by five at the end of the second inning, the Marlins couldn't find a way to get to Texas starter Nick Martinez, who struck out seven Marlins in six innings.
They tried to break through with one out in the third inning. Eovaldi snuck a single under the glove of second basemen Rougned Odor. Then Yelich hit a ball so sharply up the middle that it deflected off Martinez's glove and into right field, allowing Eovaldi to reach third.
But Eovaldi was stranded after Donovan Solano couldn't hit a fly ball deep enough to score him, and Stanton struck out to end the inning.
The Marlins did get to Martinez in the fourth, but that rally was also short-lived. Garrett Jones scored on a double into the left-field corner off the bat of Ozuna, who's had a few big hits during the Marlins' homestand. He moved to third on Hechavarria's ground ball to short, which set him up to come in on a wild pitch. Jeff Mathis, however, struck out looking for the last out.
The Marlins left seven men on base and were 0-for-6 with runners in scoring position.
"At the end of the day, we fought back," Redmond said. "The bullpen came in and gave us a shot, and we were able to climb back in it. One more big hit away from tying that ballgame up, or maybe even winning it."
Maria Torres is an associate reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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Okay. I'm a big believer in the Low HR training as it has worked well for me this summer and fall.
I'm also a believer that you need to mix in some speedwork and tempo work as part of your race prep to do your best.
I'm going to work toward a marathon on May 5, 2013 and am thinking of using a modified Hanson Training Plan.
On first glance, their big difference is not having any 20 mile long runs and more volume during the week, but there are some other differences as well.
They do have some interval speed/strength work once a week, but lots of other plans have that. They also have a Marathon Paced "tempo" run that gets up to 10 miles that is fairly unique to them. Mainly because MP is pretty slow for a tempo run and 10 miles is pretty long for a tempo run. It's almost more of a MP prep run more than a tempo run to me.
I think I'm good with both of those mixed in with my high volume of easy LHR runs. It's not really a base building cycle, it's a race prep cycle and those things fit in the LHR training method to me.
The thing that I'm struggling with is that they want you to run your regular long run (that tops out at 16 miles) at just 45 seconds slower than MP. That's about 45 seconds to a minute faster than my MAF pace. They are fine with the other easy runs being around my MAF pace, but they want that long run to be faster.
In some ways this sounds appealing as it will mean less time on my feet on those long runs. 15 minutes less on a 16 miler.
However this goes somewhat against what I've learned under the LHR training on building my aerobic base.
Any thoughts on the somewhat faster long run from a LHR training perspective? Is this completely at odds with LHR training or with the still decent volume of easy LHR type running (still over 50% of the weekly volume) is it something that can be resolved?
Thanks, Nathan
Age: 49 Weight: 202 Height: 6'3" (Goal weight 195)
Current PR's: Mara 3:14:36* (2017); HM 1:36:13 (2017); 10K 43:59 (2014); 5K 21:12 (2016)
If you have made solid aerobic development, then an experiment might be in order. Back when I was at my peak I would do progressive type long runs, getting faster and faster, until the last 3-4 miles I was at about marathon HR or pace. Fun to do. If you're not prepared with a solid base of high mileage at MAF, then these runs can take longer to recover from. I'm sure you're seeking a way to get a faster marathon or other races under your belt. For me, the fastest marathon I achieved (3:22) came from high volume of MAF aerobic miles with a few MRP tempo runs (ala Pfitzinger thrown in) and perhaps one or two LT tempos. I got to the race feeling strong, and it never felt easier even though I was moving faster than ever.
Experimentation is good. Let your MAF tests guide you through. Your aerobic speed should improve from these runs. You'll either respond to doing a long run at MRP-45 seconds, or you won't.
I'm not sure these runs will give you any more physical benefit than a lower intensity one, but will definitely give you some mental benefit. The last few miles of a progression long run can be mentally challenging. Feels almost like the last 6 of the marathon. MRP tempos give the same mental benefit--confidence that the pace feels good and doable.
Good luck, N!
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The peak 16 miler is kind of their trademark thing. I am leaning toward throwing in one 18 miler, but the way they make their plan, it makes sense that the 16 miler is enough.
Most plans are something like Friday short easy run, Saturday long run, Sunday rest day. Their plan is Thursday, MP Tempo run; Friday, easy 8 miles; Saturday easy 10 miles; Sunday 16 miles; Monday 8 miles, etc. You go into the long run with tired legs from the other runs instead of bracketing the long run with very low mileage or even rest days. That part makes sense to me and I can deal with it.
The part that makes me scratch my head is the faster long run when you are already doing a decent length MP run on Thursday that peaks out at 10 miles PLUS warmup and cooldown, so at least 12 miles total with 10 at MP.
If I do my long runs at MAF I couldn't get 18 miles in by the time I got to 3 hours so the 20 mile long run is probably not going to happen for me. Even at MP + 45 seconds I couldn't get a 20 miler in under the 3 hour mark. Some things I've been reading lately are even talking about runs longer than 2:45 start to do more harm than good.
When it all comes down to it I guess 45 seconds pace difference is not going to make or break the plan one way or the other.
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I have not tried Hanson, but I had a coach during my last training program and his workouts included speedwork and MP paced runs. What I did was to do all my easy runs by HR and (based upon a race test I did), did my speedwork and MP paced runs by its respective HR. For example, if I was doing HMP miles, I would run those miles at the estimated MP for a HM and the like. Not sure if that's what you were wondering.
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I'm off to Barnes and Noble to get the book today. I'm leaning towards a spring marathon (first one.....yikes) and an thinking about using the Hanson method for taining. I tried to do the Phitz 18-55 plan this spring for a goal HM, but ended up getting a pretty severe stress reaction and missing my HM due to having to stop running for a couple weeks.
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For me, the fastest marathon I achieved (3:22) came from high volume of MAF aerobic miles with a few MRP tempo runs (ala Pfitzinger thrown in) and perhaps one or two LT tempos. I got to the race feeling strong, and it never felt easier even though I was moving faster than ever.
just curious; how often did you do the MRP runs and the LT runs per week?
just curious; how often did you do the MRP runs and the LT runs per week?
Hi C,
This is a breakdown of that 15 week period that started in early August, in prep for a marathon in November:
I started with a short aerobic base period purely under MAF for 6 weeks. Most of which was under MAF -10. I had done a much longer aerobic base period at the beginning of the year in prep for a spring marathon and race season, so it would be my second of the year. Work at LT was done as intervals, and the rest of the tempo work was done @ marathon race pace HR (MRP):
That was a fun training period.
thanks for the data. wow, 100miles a week?! nice...
12 mile tempo @ MRP - that one sounds like a really hard workout another wow
I see it was roughly once a week above MAF.
thanks for the data. wow, 100miles a week?! nice...
12 mile tempo @ MRP - that one sounds like a really hard workout another wow
I see it was roughly once a week above MAF.
Nostalgia. The things I did when I was 45.
The 12 mile tempos at MRP aren't that hard. You're running a pace you should be able to hold for 26 miles. Actually, marathons are pretty easy up to mile 22-23 (if your fit, of course). After that, it gets tough.
Kind of interesting that this little side track took place on this Hanson Training Plan Question, because the Marathon Pace Tempo run is a big part of their program. You peak at 10 miles at marathon pace with 1 to 3 miles of warm up and cool down on each end. I personally am doing 2 mile warm ups and 1 mile cool downs so my MP Tempo runs will end up being 13 total miles with 10 at MP. Not too far off from Jimmyb's 12 mile marathon pace Tempo run did. I'm going to peak at only around 65 miles though.
They have you do 3 of those with the last one 10 days out from the marathon. They aren't much for tapering miles, just cutting out most of the more difficult work and switching it for easy.
The 12 mile tempos at MRP aren't that hard. You're running a pace you should be able to hold for 26 miles. Actually, marathons are pretty easy up to mile 22-23 (if your fit, of course). After that, it gets tough.
I guess it depends on how you determine your MRP... if you are being very conservative then sure it can be an easy workout
I guess it depends on how you determine your MRP... if you are being very conservative then sure it can be an easy workout
Of course, you need to be prepared for ithese runs. You should already have a solid aerobic base built, and be able to run a good 17-20 miler.
The mental prep from them is invaluable.
Had a mini breakthrough on my training yesterday. Not sure if it was the result of getting my HR up on a 2 mile race last Saturday or if I'm finally adjusting to the new training load or what, but I had a really good MP Tempo run.
Ran the same exact course last Tuesday and then again this Thursday. 2 mile warm up then 7 miles at Marathon Pace then 1 mile cool down. One item that was not the same was that the temperature was 10 degrees cooler (69 last week and 59 this week), so that probably affected it some, but I don't think that explains all of the improvement.
Last Tuesday the 7 MP miles were at an avg pace of 8:38 and avg HR was 167 (86%) which was higher than I wanted, but I was running based on pace, not HR.
Yesterday the 7 MP miles were at an avg pace of 8:34 and avg HR was 161 (83%) which was right at the HR that I am targeting, but my pace was faster than I was supposed to run. I was feeling so good I couldn't help myself and pushed it in and ran the last mile of the Tempo at 8:05 pace which is why the avg pace is a little fast and also, that spiked my avg HR up to where it ended up, it was under 160 for most of the Tempo.
I think it was a combination of last week wasn't a great run and this week was a really good run when it was all said and done.
14 mile long run at MP + 45 seconds on the agenda for Sunday.