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Samsung Announces Galaxy S4 Zoom - 16 MP, Zoom, Makes Callsby Brian Klug on 6/12/2013 4:35 AM EST
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AmdInside - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkI thought I was done with Samsung phones but this may make me come back. Reply
GTRagnarok - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkThe looks you'd get holding it next to your head :D Reply
icebox - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkA bit late for April's fools, aren't they? Reply
Anakha - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkImagine the lens extending while its in your pocket... The term "Are you happy to see me" takes on a whole new meaning now... lol Reply
lurker22 - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkAlbeit it not very happy given the size :) Reply
mwarner1 - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkAn interesting compromise device. Slightly surprised with the specs of the device though - I would have thought a 720p display and something at least equivalent to the Galaxy Camera in terms of SoC.
It is not for me personally, but I can see this appealing to quite a few users who are hankering after an always available, good quality camera with Xenon alongside a reasonably decent Android phone. Reply
SeannyB - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkI was also thinking with better hardware (and the ability to shoot in raw format, lol), I could be enticed by such a smartphone. I'm always glad to see phone makers experiment with designs outside of the iPhone mold. Reply
flyingpants1 - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - linkIt's an instant fail as a phone because it's just too thick.
I would have kept the Galaxy Camera name for this... It's a Galaxy Camera that can make calls. Which isn't so bad I guess..
I can sort of see the use case. It's a niche product. I don't know many people who need their pics to be uploaded to FB within 2 seconds. The example Anand gave was wedding photos.. OK.
But for a normal person.. all my stuff is on my real phone anyway.. I'd rather carry my S4 and P&S separately instead of carrying this monstrosity. If I am in a super hurry to upload pictures, I can still put the microSD card from the camera into the phone, or just use USB OTG to connect them.
Samsung, the day you will truly kill P&S is if you release a normal S4 with an attachable lens, which you could sell for $100+. Reply
Lucky Stripes 99 - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - linkI would have been very happy if Samsung had modified a regular GS4 with a camera similar to the one in the Nokia 808 Pureview. It would have been a great smartphone with advanced optics that could still fit comfortably in your pants.
Instead, they merged a GS4 Mini with a mediocre point and shoot. The lens is too slow for good night shots, which is the whole reason I drag a PnS along to bars and parties. It is also oddly shaped (at least my old TL110 had a tapered collar around the lens), which means it isn't going to slide into my pocket or sit on a car cradle well. And being a derivative of a derivative, I'd bet that software updates from the carriers will dry up quickly.
Nokia needs to hurry up and end their partnership with Microsoft so that we can finally get some nice CAMERAphones with Android. Reply
Gregg Thurman - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - linkFrom the article:
"Although the device couldn't make phone calls, "
Did I misinterpret that sentence? Reply
vezance - Sunday, July 14, 2013 - linkYep. That sentence refers to the previous generation Samsung Galaxy Camera. The person above you is talking about the Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom which has all the functionalities of an Andriod smartphone. Reply
vezance - Sunday, July 14, 2013 - link(No editing, Anandtech? I meant to say Android not Andriod.) Reply
Guarulhos - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - linkYou posted wrong information !
Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom And Samsung Galaxy Camera No Use CMOS Format 1/2.3", 1.34µm !
Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom And Samsung Galaxy Camera Use CMOS Format 1/2.3", 1.8µm !
And Why End, Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom No Use Exynos 4212... Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom Use Exynos 4210 !!! Reply
Impulses - Friday, June 14, 2013 - linkI agree with others... It's an average to mediocre phone and and an average to mediocre point and shoot... But I imagine it'll still have a fairly healthy mass market appeal if it's priced right (<$350, particularly if it's on contact), it's just not anything special for typical enthusiast. Bumped down phone specs (SoC/display) and a brick-ish form factor (compared to modern phones) with a protruding ring on the back would give me pause even if it were better spec'd.
A slightly shorter but brighter zoom might've made it a viable alternative to the kind of advanced compacts that enthusiasts tend to carry for better low light photos, and it's probably more viable than a larger sensor... Something along the lines of the 5-7x lenses on the Canon S100/S110 & Panasonic DMC-LF1, which start at f/2.0 (most low light photos are taken at the wide end anyway). I understand a 10x zoom is probably an easier upsell to the average Joe tho, sadly.
All that aside, my biggest worry would be sharing battery life between the camera and the phone... If it doesn't have a larger battery than a Moto MAXX it's gonna be a big fail regardless of the intended user... They conveniently left price and battery capacity out of the announcement. It's definitely gonna be somewhat less rugged than the average phone too, fumble it and now you risk a broken screen plus a broken lens or lens retract mechanism. Hopefully they had the foresight to build in a wrist strap mount! Reply
Krysto - Friday, June 21, 2013 - linkWhat's with Samsung and using such small sensors, for phones that look like point and shoots? I'd rather they would've made it this thick with a 4/3" sensor, and use pixel-binning, than to add a "10x zoom" to a 1/2.3" sensor. Reply


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LAFAYETTE— Lafayette's celebration of Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy of nonviolence ended Monday with the shooting death of a Lafayette man about 60 yards from the recreation center named in the civil rights leader's honor.
Jordan Melancon, 20, grew up in the neighborhood adjacent to the King Center and was near his grandmother's house in the 400 block of Hilda Street around 7:15 p.m. Monday when, Lafayette police say, he was fatally shot by Jacob Ardoin.
Ardoin, 21, of the 1100 block of Collins Street, Carencro, was booked into the Lafayette Parish Correctional Center on a count of second-degree murder.
It's unclear whether the two men knew each other, Lafayette Police Cpl. Paul Mouton said.
Mouton said a large crowd had gathered in the neighborhood.
Police officers were already in the neighborhood working the Martin Luther King holiday activities at the King Center, just about 60 yards away, when officers were called to respond to a disturbance on Hilda Street, Mouton said.
"As they moved into the crowd, they heard the gunshot," Mouton said.
Officers found Melancon collapsed in front of a home with a single gunshot wound and he was taken to a hospital where he died from his injuries, Mouton said.
The large crowd gathered in the neighborhood was unrelated to the King Center activities, he said.
Ashley Bonner, who grew up with Melancon and lives on Hilda Street across from Melancon's grandmother, said Melancon wasn't part of the crowd that moved from Paul Breaux Street on to Hilda Street.
"We were at my house," Bonner said. "He didn't know he was shot, at first. He fell into my little sister's hands," Bonner said.
Melancon walked about two houses down from his grandmother's home before collapsing in front of Emma Faulk's house on Hilda Street.
A row of candles and stuffed teddy bears sit on the sidewalk outside of Faulk's house. The items were placed their Monday evening during an impromptu memorial by those mourning the man's death, she said.
"It was a sad thing to see," Faulk said. "I know there's violence everywhere, but this? This? For what? You have parents who lost one son and parents of the (man) who did it, who lost their son, too."
King's message seems to be lost on today's generation, Faulk said.
"I want them to understand it's not about fighting or getting revenge. It's about respecting the rights of man and civil rights," she said.
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Norm Caldwell will be the guest of honor and the recipient of the 2013 City of Auburn Distinguished Veteran Award. Caldwell began his military career at the age of 17 while a high school senior, and entered the Navy upon graduating. His first assignment after training would lead him to Pearl Harbor where he supported combat fighters as a Navy metal smith after the attack by the Japanese. Caldwell relocated to Auburn in the mid 80's along with his employer, the Sommer Metalcraft Corporation of Indiana. In Auburn, he became an active community leader as a board member on the Industrial Development Board. Caldwell later retired from his position, but continued his work with the City and its recruiting efforts as Chairman of the Board. Today, the Auburn Chamber of Commerce recognizes his contributions with the Norm Caldwell Industrialist of the Year Award.
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Fingers: Hyper-extended
I was bouldering with my left middle and ring fingers deep in a pocket. I had to quickly get my fingers out and reach up for the next hold, and as I did, I hyper-extended them. Four months later I remain unable to climb. Should I get some scans?
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You were living in Sydney. You were even climbing in the Blue Mountains. I work in the Blue Mountains. You didn't call.
In all likelihood you do, or did, have a small avulsion fracture. When you hyper-extended the middle finger joint (aka the PIP joint), one of the connective tissues, be it ligament or the joint capsule, will have pulled off a fragment of bone. If an x-ray does not reveal a fracture, then you may have just disrupted the capsule on the front of the joint.
Given that it settled down and only briefly re-aggravates after indoor climbing, a dose of radiation may be a little pointless. I think yours is more likely plain old stress rather than non-union, but if it persists certainly acquire a set of films.
Though prescribing rest is, for the most part, an excuse for poor diagnostics and even worse management, in this instance it's neither. Anything that annoys this finger needs to halt until the pain settles. Be patient!
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Ten local Girl Guide units took part in a parade service at which the Rev Canon Thomas Woodhouse dedicated new standards which incorporate Wootton Bassett's royal title.
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Humble Bundle: Civilization and Double Fineby Jarred Walton on 2/5/2014 9:09 PM EST
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merikafyeah - Wednesday, February 05, 2014 - linkI really like the Overlord series. A very fun and strangely relaxing game. Reply
bountygiver - Wednesday, February 05, 2014 - linkThe disadvantage of buying the bundle for just Civ 5 is the lack of other small DLCs as they only include the 2 major expansions. If you do play campaigns and those DLC civilizations but don't mind the other games, you can wait for the steam sale and grab a Complete Version with $49.99 before discount. (If it did get a 75%, it has the same price of $15, but does not include the other Sid Meir's games.) Reply
bountygiver - Wednesday, February 05, 2014 - linktypo: *$12.50 Reply
Wreckage - Thursday, February 06, 2014 - linkSo these "Civilization" games. They take and hour or two to play? Reply
HeroicTofu - Thursday, February 06, 2014 - linkSure. You think you're playing for an hour or two. And then you look at the clock and 10 hours have passed. Good stuff. Reply
marc1000 - Thursday, February 06, 2014 - linkin my first game I took 27 hours to finish (6 civs, small map, easy). this game is EXTREMELY long and addictive.
unfortunately, due to the lack of a linear campaign and the absurd amount of time wasted I probably won't play it again anytime soon. I was very dissapointed, night after night, that the freakingly long game would never end. eventually I got so bored that I built a huge army and destroyed all other civs just to make the game end faster. Reply
DanNeely - Thursday, February 06, 2014 - linkOnly 10? Starting a game Saturday morning, and playing until I see the day star glaring through the window 20+ hours later wasn't uncommon at peak addiction. Reply
Braumin - Thursday, February 06, 2014 - linkIf anyone is thinking about Civ V - just get it. And get Brave New World as well. This game is really the best Civ game yet - and the latest expansion pack (Brave New World) makes it even better with some much better end game play.
I'm hesitant to post how many hours I've played Civ V only because it's embarrassing.
Depending on world size, games can be a couple of hours to 10-20 hours each. It has plenty of difficulty settings so you can ramp it up as you become better at the game.
You won't regret the purchase for sure unless you hate turn based strategy games. Reply
rkcth - Thursday, February 06, 2014 - linkI hate brave new world, but love civ 5 and gods and kings. I always turn brave new world off, I wish there was a way to permanently disable it. Reply
Braumin - Thursday, February 06, 2014 - linkReally what don't you like? I really like the additions it makes it feel like the end of the game isn't quite so boring. I always loved the beginning and middle of Civ V, but the end game not so much. Now with the policies and trading I much prefer it. Reply
dylan522p - Thursday, February 06, 2014 - linkYou can't be serious Civ 4 is considered to be the better game by just about ever hardcore civ player. If you play immortal or diety Civ 5 is simply a bad game. Reply
Braumin - Thursday, February 06, 2014 - linkI'm serious. Just because others prefer Civ IV (which I loved as well) doesn't mean I can't prefer Civ V. Stacking units can be a bit ridiculous.
Why would you say it's a bad game on the highest difficulty levels? Reply
glugglug - Friday, February 07, 2014 - linkI just wish they'd fix it so playing on a large map didn't involve 10+ minutes per turn by the end of the game. At least multithread the damn AI! Reply
PreacherEddie - Thursday, February 06, 2014 - linkWow, the Civ series must be the best bundle yet. My son just got Civ V for me on Steam a few weeks ago (Christmas present). You always want to play one more turn before going to get something to eat or run to the bathroom, because that is the turn when your research will be complete, or a building will be completed, or you will finally capture that city, etc. Reply
Braumin - Thursday, February 06, 2014 - linkOne more turn - that's got to be the Civ comment of all time on all versions of the game. You always think to yourself "one more turn and then I'm done" but like you said, it never happens.
My biggest pet peeve with Civ V is they removed the clock which the added in Civ IV. It's so easy to just lose a couple of hours playing Civ that the clock is very important! Reply
kwrzesien - Friday, February 07, 2014 - linkOne more turn - reminds me of Master of Orion. OMG - how many years did I sink into playing that game?! Reply
PreacherEddie - Sunday, February 09, 2014 - linkI still dust off my CD of MOO II maybe once a year, and lose all my free time for a week or so. Reply
BMNify - Thursday, February 06, 2014 - linkThanks for the links, I just bought the FPS bundle from bundlestars, seems like fun games to play on the HDTV connected PC for less than $4 Reply
Death666Angel - Thursday, February 06, 2014 - linkLooking forward to the AF2014! Loved the AF2012, but only got wind of it after the fact. The documentary alone is worth your money. :) Reply
Craig234 - Friday, February 07, 2014 - linkI do hate how I spend over $16.74 to get the only game in the bundle I don't already own, and can't give away the copies of the other games, all wasted. Reply
JarredWalton - Saturday, February 08, 2014 - linkYou should be able to gift the Steam codes -- there's a "present" icon on the Humble Bundle page for your game codes. If you redeem it for yourself of course that option goes away. Reply
btsfh - Friday, February 07, 2014 - linkI would love to support Humble Bundle, but I refuse to install Steam on my PC's. Can we reduce the amount of advertising for titles that are only available through a DRM service, and stick with technology news and humble bundle downloads of DRM free software? Reply
JarredWalton - Saturday, February 08, 2014 - linkHumble does DRM free on some titles, but not on all games (e.g. the Civ games are now Steam only perhaps?) Anyway, saying you refuse to install games as a PC gamer is like saying you refuse to run Windows in my book. Steam has worked quite well for me for years now, and while the early teething pains were annoying these days I almost refuse to buy games that *aren't* available on Steam (or at least the Google Play Store for my Android devices). To each his own I suppose. Reply
anandreader106 - Saturday, February 08, 2014 - link"saying you refuse to install games as a PC gamer is like saying you refuse to run Windows in my book."
Would you make the same statement about EA's Origins? That crap got uninstalled from my computer in a flash of rage. Reply
BikeDude - Thursday, February 13, 2014 - linkI can't speak for Jarred, but I am a Steam convert. Steam works flawlessly and lets me enjoy my library across all my computers (and recent titles sync save games as well -- much appreciated!).
Origin OTOH has not been as smooth IMO, but later versions seem to have improved noticably. Reply
KonradK - Sunday, February 09, 2014 - link"But wait -- there's more! As with the Sid Meier bundle, Humble is throwing in a twist with the Double Fine bundle. If you donate more than $16.74 (why that amount, I couldn't tell you), you will also receive early access to the alpha build of Spacebase DF-9 (~70% rating for the alpha), a space strategy/simulation game where you're attempting to colonize the galaxy."
I've paid (not donate) $17 and I not received early access to the alpha build of Spacebase DF-9.
Maybe mysterious $16.74 was double of average at time of writing of article (at time of my purchase average was $8.94). Reply
KonradK - Monday, February 10, 2014 - linkNever mind...
I mixed two bundles, main and weekly.
Sorry. Reply


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This work seeks to capture the activities, projects and accomplishments of Psi Alpha Alpha Chapter, during the Centennial fraternal year of the Omega Psi Phi Fraternity, Inc. Omega Psi Phi was established on November 17, 1911 as the first black fraternity at an all-black university - on the campus of Howard University in Washington, DC. It has a strong tradition of manhood, scholarship, perseverance and uplift, as they comprise its four cardinal principles. As "A Progressive Chapter, Serving Fairfax County, Virginia", the Brothers of Psi Alpha Alpha continue to consistently serve with fervor, impacting the lives of individuals, families and communities on local and national levels. We trust that the "Reflections" on each page of this book will fill you with the same sense of pride and inspiration it affords us.
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Who's your all-time favorite Met? Now he doesn't have to be a star like Seaver or Wright or Keith. It can be anyone and for any number of reasons. Maybe he waved to you from the field. Maybe you liked his baseball card. Maybe he was the underdog in your eyes.
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A couple of weeks ago I was thinking about new ways to make burgers and came up with something I thought was worth a try. I started by roasting 2 heads of garlic and mixing them into a pound of hamburger along with a bunch of grated parmesan cheese (not from the green can).
I formed the patties and let them rest in the fridge for a couple of hours before grilling them and topping them with American cheese slices.
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HALIFAX - A species of endangered turtles is getting some help with the protection of one of its remaining habitats in Nova Scotia.
The Nature Trust says 27 hectares of land around McGowan Lake are being permanently and legally protected as conservation lands for Blanding's turtles.
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The group estimates that less than one per cent of Blanding's hatchlings survive, adding that many are wiped out by expanding cottage development and roads in the areas where the turtles live.
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What does "Phisically 16 (Years old) means?
- It means that his appearance is that of a ninja the age of 16. Shuhei Hisagi 01:20, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't someone list that Jugo is the tallest person in Naruto in the trivia page?
- That's mentioned in the Appearance section. Trivia sections are for information that can't (or has yet to be) integrated into other parts of the article. ~SnapperTo 02:54, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
But he isnt the tallest anymore because he gave Sasuke some of his skin(or flesh whichever u want to call it) and didnt he look like a small kid so he wouldnt be the tallestNarutosagemaster (talk) 19:35, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
At that point, he reverted to a small child, but as far as recent chapters have shown, he's back to his normal height. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
The "best friend" sentence
Vegerot, you've been adding "because his best friend or" to the article. However, the way you added is ungrammatical. Please add it properly. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 21:10, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
I am not sure I am in 5th grade for gods sake! Can somebody add it for me please? Vegerot (talk) 21:12, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
how does Jugo of the Scales reference his dual personality? also, does this have a relation to Onoki? 126.96.36.199 (talk) 23:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
- Because his personality can tip in one direction with little provocation. "Bipolar Jugo" makes this more obvious. ~SnapperTo 02:38, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I doubt it cuz his nickname is Jugo of the Scales while Onoki's is Onoki of Both Scales
Jugo's Picture
Even Though Jugo has been in the Anime for 2 episodes he still has a manga picture, I can not edit his page so can someone please change his picture. --Hidan13 (talk) 03:04, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- There hasn't been a good enough shot to put in...Anything, put in now, will more than likely be replaced after the next episode...-- AlienGamer--Talk-- 03:07, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Height issue
Well I do agree that Jugo is the tallest (so far) human character in the story, but there is an issue: since the attack on the eight-tails, he's in a "younger form" and from what I sow in chapter 456, that he is still that height. I don't think his altered state has a height of 202,1cm (he's about a head shorter then Sasuke). Cyrus1 17:03, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- The thing is that we don't know any other height. They comes with the databooks. Jacce | Talk 15:12, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- Plus, we don't know if he's still in his child state, from the most recent chapters, he seems to have reached his normal age again, at least going by his height. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:01, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- Check 459 page 12, the one to the left of Sasuke is Juugo huh? It appears that he is still a child:-O - MadaraU (talk) 18:01, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
- Then he keeps changing, a couple chapters earlier, he was in his regular height. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:17, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
- Check 459 page 12, the one to the left of Sasuke is Juugo huh? It appears that he is still a child:-O - MadaraU (talk) 18:01, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
- Plus, we don't know if he's still in his child state, from the most recent chapters, he seems to have reached his normal age again, at least going by his height. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:01, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
I have not seen anywhere that says Jugo DEVOURED an entire village, killed yes but not devoure.
cursed seal
should we make a page for jugo's "cursed seal" or "ability", or whatever it is called? 220.127.116.11 (talk) 21:23, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
Should we be saying that Jūgo has a Cursed Seal? Technically he has a natural ability that allowed Orochimaru to develop his Cursed Seal. Jūgo really doesn't have it himself. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 22:48, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
- The link to Orochimaru's Juinjutsu is just because the basic attributes are the same. I'm indifferent to it actually being listed in the infobox. ~SnapperTo 22:58, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
What Type is His Cursed Mark
"Jugo's opinion seems to be the only one out of Taka that Sasuke listens to. While Sasuke usually brushes everyone off, he listens to Jugo's advice."
Could someone give an example of this? --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 00:00, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
- It pretty much says that Sasuke listens to Jugo and ignores others. Sting! TenRyuoh! 04:36, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
- I know what it says, I don't lack reading comprehension... What I was asking if anyone could give an example of Sasuke listening to Jūgo's advice and ignoring the advice of Suigetsu and Karin. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 00:36, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
Oh.The fight with Killerbee,you might need to check there,cuz I don't really remember,
Sting! TenRyuoh! 00:43, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
In the fight with Killer bee, he says to leave Karin because she's gonna to die from amateratsu, and sasuke ignores that. Just throwing it out there. --Hasofcd (talk) 01:33, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
Cursed Seal timeline
yo yo first time posting here ever and well i have a bit of a matter to discus jugo orignated the curse seal corect? if's that's true then how did anko get one. i mean by time anko had hers jugo must have been signifcantly younger then when orchimaru aproched him. and before orchimaru met kiddimaru. and yet sasuke and anko have the same curse seal. isn't this a contuality error? i mean recently the anime showed kiddmaru as a younger kid with jugo making it seem that the curse seal thing that orchimaru got must have happend sometime in the last ten years or so. if that's true wouln't that recent scean be an error by the animators?
to sum up all i want to know is how anko got her curse seal if orchimaru didn't meet jugo till after her left konoha —This unsigned comment was made by Ekim72 (talk • contribs) on 23:11, 28 September 2009 (UTC).
- We have no idea when Jūgo joined Orochimaru, nor when Anko received her Cursed Seal. Unless we know these details, we cannot speak of any continuity errors. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 00:36, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
Curse Seal transplant
Shouldn't Jugo's transfer of flesh be a jutsu of somesort? --Hasofcd (talk) 04:36, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
I think so...Then again,it could just be another power granted by the curse mark. Not alot is know about the curse mark.
Sting! TenRyuoh! 05:41, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
Chakra cannons
Shouldn't his chakra cannon jutsu be listed? Ch 462, pg 4-5--Hasofcd (talk) 05:50, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
- It's not a named technique, and it's part of his Cursed Seal, the mention at the abilities section is enough. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 13:42, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
Why have so many of Jugo's Cursed Seal abilities been given their own pages? Aren't they all part of the Cursed Seal? --Enoki911 (talk) 05:34, December 15, 2009 (UTC)Enoki911
- There's been an explosion of articles on unnamed... stuff, recently. We'll see just how unique they are whenever the fourth databook comes out. ~SnapperTo 05:49, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
Jyuugo or Juugo?
I think its Jyuugo.
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ユ<-- Yu —This unsigned comment was made by 126.96.36.199 (talk • contribs) .
- You should read up on the Hepburn romanisation system. ジュ is rendered as ju. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 13:54, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
Seeing as Juugo is the source of the curse seals and they being caused by enzymes in his body, should we label this a Kekkei Genkai or Hiden?Saimaroimaru (talk) 05:48, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
- As I understand the term, it has to be inheritable, and by that they mean reproductively, not having someone extracting an enzyme from you and replicating an incomplete form of it. Thomas Finlayson (talk) 05:54, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
- Wrong by your logic Wood Release isn't a KKG and yet is labeled as one.Saimaroimaru (talk) 05:56, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
- Who said Jūgo cursed seal was not inheritable? All that I have heard is it is an unique ability that orochimaru discovered in Jūgo. - SimAnt 06:18, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
By isolating specific enzyemes in his body.Sounds like KKG to me.Saimaroimaru (talk) 06:52, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
- When they were talking about KKG they meant "natural" reproduction. Notice also it was incomplete, Oro may have merely learned the chemical makeup of the protein and made a near replica of it. Thomas Finlayson (talk) 00:54, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
- How do you know he wasn't born with it? Incomplete? No it wasn't he didn't have control of the murderous urges it gave him, Oroichimaru manufactured a form that made those who gained a copying of it less aggressive than Juugo.Saimaroimaru (talk) 13:45, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
- I say he "was" born with it. The copys were incomplete which means that the protein that Oro made was unable to meld perfectly with the other bodies or was not a good enough copy. Moreever, the amount of insane people with curse marks that we saw at that prison implies that the mental part was involved. Thomas Finlayson (talk) 17:37, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
- How do you know he wasn't born with it? Incomplete? No it wasn't he didn't have control of the murderous urges it gave him, Oroichimaru manufactured a form that made those who gained a copying of it less aggressive than Juugo.Saimaroimaru (talk) 13:45, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
- I'd go insane in one of oro's prisons.... - SimAnt 18:41, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
Sounds like A KKG to me seeing as people with Sharingan implants have drawbacks.When I mean not as crazy I'm not as bipolar, the dude has a rep for it. Also if born thats means KKG. Thank you for defeating your own argument.Saimaroimaru (talk) 20:02, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Please explain the logic behind your last statement. And do not forget the part where you say that puting an eye in is the same as putting in a protein capable of accelerating chemcial reactions, especially one of such diverse ability (a super enzyme even since it is omni, not mono) and how being born with something is the same as being able to pass it on. Thomas Finlayson (talk) 00:29, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
I think it is a Kekkei Genkai. And I'm also almost sure that Kekkei Genkai don't have to be inheritable, after all, Tsunade doesn't have Wood Release. It can't be Hiden because Hiden techniques are taught. -KonohaSunaKiriKumoIwa (talk) 22:16, July 4, 2010 (UTC)
- well we can't put up speculations maybe in future Jugo's character will be explored more --Cerez365 (talk) 12:31, July 5, 2010 (UTC)
A Mutant
Talk: Mutations To leave it open.Thomas Finlayson (talk) 02:51, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
It's unusual because its rare? Who said Kishimoto understood real world biology?
No one said he did, but this site is supposed to provide information about the Narutoverse, correct? And this is the best way to do it. Moreover, explaining a bit on what the enzyme does helps make it more clear how he is capable of such amazing abilities.
- The origion of all his techniques also needs to be clear. Thomas Finlayson (talk) 05:29, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
The Enzyme
Jūgo's body is highly unusual because it produces an enzyme of previously unheard of ability. While most proteins of this nature are only capable of effecting certain molecules, only one type period, this one is apparently capable of affecting a wide variety which allows his body to undergo a staggering number of transformations which to all appearances appear only limited by his immagination and his energy levels.
- You want to add that it is "highly unusual because ... previously unheard of." How is that helpful? Also, you are guessing that about what limited his transformations. Also "one is apparently capable" sounds like speculation to me. - SimAnt 05:37, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
- I checked the Japanese manga and it never actually says that Jūgo has a special enzyme. Instead it says that Orochimaru developed an enzyme from Jūgo's bodily fluids. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 13:22, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
- Ouch, that is a difference. Could you put that up what they said? That misconception seems to have been going around for a bit. Thomas Finlayson (talk) 19:02, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
- I checked the Japanese manga and it never actually says that Jūgo has a special enzyme. Instead it says that Orochimaru developed an enzyme from Jūgo's bodily fluids. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 13:22, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
Where can I view Jugo's ninja stats? In fact where can I view his teammates as well? 'cept sasuke, his I can see, but shouldn't Jugo and the others from taka have stats? —This unsigned comment was made by 22.214.171.124 (talk • contribs) .
- Jugo, Karin and Suigetsu didn't have their stats revealed in the third databook. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:50, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
is jugo even a ninja i mean he was never trained or anything right?22.214.171.124 (talk) 19:50, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
Stuck in his cell
Despite his powers in 2nd state and against Killerbee, Jugo was still stuck in his cell, so should we say his powers are not strong enough to get out of thick walls and metal bars before guards did anything? Thomas Finlayson (talk) 02:34, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
- Suigetsu and Jūgo were waiting for the perfect opportunity to escape, with little or no guards around. When that moment was there, they decided to go for a more stealthy route, rather than just break the cell open and alert anyone still in the vicinity. It says nothing about Jūgo's strength. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 03:31, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
Is Jūgo even a ninja?
All his abilities come from his natural Curse Mark, are they even jutsu? That, and he has never accomplished an official mission and doesn't possess any 'tools'... Is he even a ninja? --Hasofcd (talk) 05:11, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, Jugo is a ninja Fangzntalonz (talk) 06:18, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not sure he's a ninja, not an official one at least. It was never said he had any formal training. He went to Orochimaru seeking help, who took his enzymes for his Juinjutsu and then locked him up in the Northern Base. ~ Fmakck - Talk - Contributions 06:30, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
- He's a bit of a border case, like Karin. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 07:39, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not sure he's a ninja, not an official one at least. It was never said he had any formal training. He went to Orochimaru seeking help, who took his enzymes for his Juinjutsu and then locked him up in the Northern Base. ~ Fmakck - Talk - Contributions 06:30, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
Storm 2 is revealed that the seal is given the name Juugo Kekkei Shisui. Should be edited? —This unsigned comment was made by 22.214.171.124 (talk • contribs) .
- Considering it comes from you, who tried to pass a game source for Shion's future telling, despite her being a movie only character, I say no. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:32, February 19, 2011 (UTC)
There is no way in hell that Jugo is a ninja.--18.104.22.168 (talk) 02:20, March 19, 2011 (UTC)
- He can use chakra, I think that's enough, even if he's likely not to have had any formal instruction. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:04, March 19, 2011 (UTC)
- Yup^ ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 03:09, March 19, 2011 (UTC)
You don't have to be a ninja to use chakra.The Samurai's have proven that.--Shinobi Master (talk) 04:16, March 19, 2011 (UTC)
- Forgot about that, but even then, he isn't known to have had any sort of training. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:44, March 19, 2011 (UTC)
But the samurais used chakra when team taka attacked the five kage summit—This unsigned comment was made by 22.214.171.124 (talk • contribs) .
Doesn't Jūgo mean 15?--126.96.36.199 (talk) 22:53, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
- Not the way it's written. It's just a homophone. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:04, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
kekkei genkai
Wait, isn't jugp's ability a kekkei genkai? The anime said that Orochimaru got his cursed seals from Jugo, and it said he's the original. —This unsigned comment was made by 188.8.131.52 (talk • contribs) .
Oh for the love of... Juugo's ability is clearly a Kekkei Genkai, it is a genetic ability, something his body does, it can't be copied without obtaining biological matter like the other KKG which have done this (Sharingan, Byakugan, Wood Release), not to mention, aside from Orochimaru's own twisted additions to it (Weird Psychotic Mind Trip) The Success rate is noted as 1 in 10 and Juugo was only capable of healing Sasuke because he was compatible with the Cursed seal, which would imply that on average only one out of ten people are genetically compatible with it. It's no diferent from infusing an organ, which is essentially the idea with people gaining the other KKG. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 06:49, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
So I support this idea of Jugo possessing a kekkai genkai and listing his powers as such. --22.214.171.124 (talk) 08:32, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
Except that no canon source ever said that his powers are a kekkei genkai. While I agree that his abilities fall under the category of kekkei genkai, until a canon source calls those abilities kekkei genkai, we don't. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 12:42, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
I think Jugo's power are similar to Wood release ... no known relatives have it, its unique to them though still genetic. --Elveonora (talk) 19:26, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
^Just saying, Jugo's familial relations have not been elaborated upon. :) Skitts (talk) 19:47, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
It's a unique ability that only Jugo can use if it was a hijutsu then it would have been clarified, the article on Kekkei Genkai says: "Kekkei genkai and their related techniques cannot be taught to or copied by others."Even Sasuke can't copy it, and if he could then he wouldn't go to Jugo to create Taka. 22.214.171.124 (talk) 12:27, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
Well i'm not going to discount it being a kekkei genkai with somewhat special/unorthodox properties. If you look at it it's the same as gouging someone's eye out I suppose.--Cerez365™ 12:32, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
And? Do you agree with it or not? 22.214.171.124 (talk) 12:37, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
- I agree that we should wait for an official source to tell us something like that. He might very well be a mutant or something.--Cerez365™ 12:42, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
So we wait for his abilities to be listed as such? Hashraima and Kimimaro were mutants in each their respective clans. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 12:50, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
- Though that's not the way I intended for my statement to be interpreted, the two you mentioned were stated implicitly to have kekkei genkai. Arguing whether or not other members of their respective clans had those kekkei genkai is an entirely different matter especially with the Senju.--Cerez365™ 13:01, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
- I see your point but it is still genetic, in his enzymes. I say we list them as such until further notice. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 13:06, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
Just so you know, hiden techniques can't be copied by Sharingan either. And from ShounenSuki's translation, Jūgo doesn't have an enzyme which allows him to do that, Orochimaru developed an enzyme based on Jūgo's body fluids that allows others to change like he does. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 13:38, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
Is Juugo a member of the Uzumaki clan? It was just revealed that Karin is part of it in the latest chapter, and he had orange hair, and I think you can see him in the picture of people. 126.96.36.199 (talk) 13:41, March 21, 2012 (UTC)K
- Um, no. On both accounts Skitts (talk) 13:41, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
- Especially since he was mentioned belonging to different clan and having connections to a different set of techs/chakra.Also, Uzumaki are known for their red hair not orange.Umishiru (talk) 13:45, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
- But Naruto has yellow hair and he's an Uzumaki. But, I suppose I can see your other point... 184.108.40.206 (talk) 13:48, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
- Especially since he was mentioned belonging to different clan and having connections to a different set of techs/chakra.Also, Uzumaki are known for their red hair not orange.Umishiru (talk) 13:45, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
What kind of question is this? Naruto has yellow hair that he inherited from his father- yes he has one O_O. Naruto would be considered a member of the Namikaze clan as well of there was one because it's where his parents descend from. Direct descendants from the clan have red hair. Jugo was mentioned to have a separate clan.--Cerez365™ 14:18, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
Red hair is common in Uzumaki, not everyone has them ... maybe only "pure bloods" or something. Naruto is Uzumaki and is blonde. By this logic, Gaara is also one. --Elveonora (talk) 16:35, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
Natural Energies
The way Jugo, Naruto and Kabuto looked after absorbing natural energy is different, so do they absorb different types of natural energy? Or is just the way they learned (or inherited?) the technique for absorbing certain energy? 22.214.171.124 (talk) 17:18, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
Jugo's clan absorbs Nature Energy from the nature around them. Naruto has learned this on toad mountain Kabuto inside of snake cave. I think it depends on from where they learned it. Jugo or his clan have no Sage Mode as far as we know, they just absorb the energies and mutate. --Elveonora (talk) 17:46, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
- While i doubt that jugo's abilities have anything to do with Sage Mode, i believe that with the newest information, the mentions of the curse seal in his infobox and the title of the ability section should be changed to reffer as natural energy absortion, as the curse seal is only a derivative created by Orochimaru and not a natural ability Darksusanoo (talk) 19:31, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
- I sorta question why it's called that at all. It should be renamed to something clan related though. Since this is more than likely a kekkei genkai.--Cerez365™ 19:36, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
- So, should we create a page for his clan's ability (kekkei genkai or whatever) so we can distinguished between them? Joshbl56 19:44, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
I'm reluctant to call it a kekkei genkai for now. I think it would be easier, and it makes more sense, but I wouldn't call it a kekkei genkai. We also need to see what exactly is this going to be. Is it a description of the absorption of nature transformation, will there be a separate article for the transformations? There's also the issue of the article. We know the Uzumaki have powerful life force, but we don't have an article for that. We know Gaara and Shukaku have sand control, but those are already explained in their articles, and a bit on the sand (tool) article. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:11, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
I do feel as though Juugo's transformations should have their own page. As it was a general ability of his Clan. Due to their natural affinity to absorb Natural Energy, akin to that of the Ryuchi Cave Sage Mode. Which overtime changed them, and gave them that power. And it was from that power, that Orochimaru created the Cursed Seal. All of which have their true origins in the Sage Mode of Ryuchi Cave. And to be honest it is not accurate to call Juugo's power. The Cursed Seal. Which on some abilities is referred to. But should simply be called Curse/Cursed Mode. As it's a Seal, that the power is stored in, for Orochimaru's followers. That is not the case with Juugo and his Clan. And also. I feel that: Orochimaru's Cursed Seal. Juugo's Curse Powers. And Sage Mode, specifically of Ryuchi Cave, as it is that sort of energy that changed Juugo's Clan. Should all be linked together in their corresponding articles. (184.108.40.206 (talk) 17:26, April 13, 2012 (UTC))
- Your sentence structuring is very awkward. At the moment, there's no need to make an article for his ability. Much like Gaara's sand, all the information available is already in his article. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:56, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
Jugo's clan.
Hi, I just want to say that jugo clan's name, is Jyugo. Kabuto said it on the last chapter, you can check it here if you want [3]. THANKYOU Small brother (talk) 13:09, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
- Name. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 13:29, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
Possible trigger for murderous personality?
It's very easy to notice that, when in his "normal" state, Juugo is very calm and gentle to the point of having various animals flock to him (also able to communicate with them). I noticed in episode 125, after Juugo received information from a bird, Suigetsu spoke rudely about animals before taking the opportunity to diss Karin. At that point, Juugo's murderous side began to emerge before Sasuke subdued it. Could it be that one possible trigger for those states is when people belittle/mistreat animals, for whom Juugo has a strong affinity? 188.8.131.52 (talk) 06:25, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
- It's already been uncovered that Jūgo and his clan's murderous intents stem from the uncontrollable surge of power from their absorption of Natural Energy.--Cerez365™(talk) 11:43, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
Jugo's Transformations
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it only stated that Jugo's murderous impulses are a trait of his clan, not his actual transformations? Unless of course the translations I've read were inaccurate, which is a definite possibility.--BeyondRed (talk) 09:13, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
- They're kinda linked. I don't think people from his clan could have one without having the other. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:20, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
Question...given the information regarding Jugo's abilities, and how they are related to natural energy, plus how he was able to discern that Orochimaru was releasing Kabuto's Sage Mode and absorbing his chakra instead of stealing his powers, and how natural energy/senjutsu users usually have this ability, does this make Jugo a sensor-type ninja? Darksusanoo (talk) 06:09, July 14, 2012 (UTC)
its possible, but if he had sensor skills he certainly would have shown (or at least hinted to) them by now.188.8.131.52 (talk) 06:13, July 14, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
I think his sensory abilities are akin and limited to (well not in his case) the fact that he uses natural energy just like toad Sages.--Cerez365™(talk) 11:59, July 14, 2012 (UTC)
Chakra Sensing
Anyone else notice that Juugo has display a limited ability to sense chakra? Such as when Orochimaru absorbed his chakra from Kabuto. Juugo was able to sense that he only took his own chakra. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 19:51, November 20, 2012 (UTC)
No. It was only do to it being natural energy that was absorbed. Even naruto can do that, but do we classify him as a sensor? No.188.8.131.52 (talk) 20:09, November 20, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
Animal comunication
As we all know well, Jugo can communicate with animals, use them as scouts and other general stuff. While the reason for this was unknown to us for quite sometime, since not even trained ninja could have this degree of communication with normal animals, as Jugo was revealed as a user of Sage Transformation, and as his body is always in contact with natural energy, it would seen logical that his ability to communicate with animals stems from this. Any opinions/thoughts? Darksusanoo (talk) 15:51, March 9, 2013 (UTC)
No, no Sage talked to an animal yet. Kiba talks to Akamaru, does that make him a user of natural energy? There's simply no connection--Elveonora (talk) 15:57, March 9, 2013 (UTC)
- But the only reason Kiba can communicate with Akamaru is due to his clan's special training and abilities...plus why are you still chalking up Sages with the members of Jugo's clan, since the only thing they have in common is that they use natural energy to achieve a transformation...since natural energy envolves contact with nature, it's a just a step away from making sense. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 17:17, March 9, 2013 (UTC)
Why would natural energy allow Jugo to communicate with animals and not to anyone else? It's nothing but speculation. It's a step away from making sense to you, how Kiba "talks" with Akamaru is no different than what Jugo does, animals make noises and they somehow understand--Elveonora (talk) 17:45, March 9, 2013 (UTC)
The Aburame clan also speak with regular bugs without making any sort of noise, just like Jugo does. It could just be a skill you can train in.--BeyondRed (talk) 02:57, March 10, 2013 (UTC)
topic of five
- picture of the tattoo, anyone knows chapter/episode where this is visible? I think it warrants one.
- animal communication picture, how about this one?
- Why haven't we yet classified the nature energy absorption and delivered techniques from this power like Sage Transformation as a KKG?
Since it's in their blood and among the clan.
- sensory abilities, from numerous instances, he apparently has some. How could he tell Kabuto's own chakra stayed untouched and Oro took back just his own?
- a picture and mention of his "original sage transformation" he says something like that when he changes his arm to absorb flesh from Kabuto--Elveonora (talk) 17:42, March 12, 2013 (UTC)
Bump, senpais, senseis... anyone? T_T --Elveonora (talk) 14:04, March 14, 2013 (UTC)
- There's probably a reference in the article regarding the chapter, and knowing the chapter, you can see which episodes cover its events. I think it's when Sasuke recruits him.
- Kinda looks like he's posing with the animal. If we can find it, I'd rather have him with the bird that provided info regarding security of the Kage Summit.
- Not sure, probably because it in itself hasn't been called a kekkei genkai.
- What he did when Orochimaru got his own chakra back doesn't mean he's a sensor. Considering he knows how his own natural energy absorption works, he could simply be inferring what's happening. Few chapter later, when they all sense Naruto all the way from Konoha, Orochimaru explicitly says none of them are sensors.
- I didn't understand what you meant in that topic. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:53, March 14, 2013 (UTC)
- My bad, didn't see the reference, tho are we sure it's a tattoo and does it appear in later chapters as well? Cause I haven't noticed
- Kay, but squirrels are more cute than birds :-] Also I think I might be recalling that there was an image for that once
- But it obviously is, Sakon&Ukon's unnamed too, yet we have an article for that
- Possibly, but Jugo has no idea Kabuto had absorbed his DNA. Does sensing through nature energy account for being a sensor tho? We don't list Naruto as one either
- When sucking Oro's flesh from Kabuto's body, Suigetsu asks what that is in response to Jugo's arm transforming and he calls it his original sage transformation or something akin to that, unless the translation I read was wrong ._. --Elveonora (talk) 18:39, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
- When he was introduced the brackets were there.
- Not too sure about the animal thing, it will just look like he's an animal watcher(?) I think in that case references work better.
- Sakon and Ukon's ability was actually called a kekkei genkai but not given a name (we might be wrong there). What happens to Jūgo may just be a genetic defect or hiden(?), though it's possible it's genetic (hence would be a kekkei genkai either way). So it seems safer not to go highlighting that in an article until we're 100%
- Not too with the adding him as a sensor, since he absorbs natural energy.
- Jūgo called it Sage Transformation not "original" or anything special like that. When that part is animated, I was actually hoping to change the image in that article to it, as it's a better depiction than the axe.--Cerez365™(talk) 18:49, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
- got it already :I
- that's what image description is for
- people aren't born with hidden techniques, also that would mean he could decide not to use it thus avoid going mad, that's obviously not the case, not to mention it's in his bodily fluids and can be transferred into other people with curse marks
- neither I want to add him as a sensor, just note in his abilities section that he was somehow able to deduce workings of the process that Oro did etc.
- yep, that's why I brought it too, that scene is noteworthy to use as a representation of his powers
--Elveonora (talk) 18:56, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
To elaborate a little more, the reason for I was interested in the tattoo is that I think it could possibly be his clan's symbol or something and specific enough to warrant a portrayal in the article, I mean, we do for curse marks. Also, their powers are clearly a KKG as:
- it was never even hinted to be "hiden"
- hiden techniques do not have to be "transferred"
- contained in their bodily fluids (notice "s" so likely blood, saliva and elsewhere) thus safe to assume it's in genes and as a whole clan of mutants was shown, hereditary.
- can't be controlled/turned off
- obvious and logical
The animal stuff isn't that significant, tho it would fit well either in his abilities or personality sections.--Elveonora (talk) 17:30, March 17, 2013 (UTC)


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A New SSE Instruction Set: AMD Announces SSE5by Ryan Smith on 8/30/2007 4:00 PM EST
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skiboysteve - Friday, August 31, 2007 - linkthis is stupid. they are adding SSE5 before SSE4. wow. Reply
tygrus - Friday, August 31, 2007 - linkSSE numbers/description becoming like model numbers. Confusing and virtually meaningless. Need CPU core with microcode to convert non-native SSE? instructions into sequence of native instuctions (micro-ops/macro-ops).
If that doesn't happen then the compilers may need to re-write the code sequences for target(s) at compile time or execution. Reply
yyrkoon - Thursday, August 30, 2007 - linkJust from what I have seen in the past, whenever AMD does something like this, Intel tries to seperate themselves by going a different direction, this is why I think Intel will rename their future instruction sets to something else.
If AMD and Intel were to actually work together on this, then maybe Intel would opt in on some of the better portions of the instruction set that enhanced their CPUs, but somehow I do not think this is the case.
I watch the Intel/AMD 'rivalry' from the outside looking in, and I see the Coke/Pepsi 'war' all over again. Little kids going so far as to pull an engine out of a new delivery truck, paint it another color other than blue, because that *is* their rivals colors . . . At what cost for your share holders ? Nonesense ! Reply
jeromekwok - Thursday, August 30, 2007 - linkI don't think of a good reason we should care this SSE5A, or should we call it 3dnow technically. AMD may gain back a few benchmark scores, but it is hard to get developers move from Intel compiler suites.
Do you guys feel the same. When the MADD goes thru the OOO, it should be decoded as MUL and ADD micro-ops. There should not be a big difference if we use two instructions MUL and ADD, which should get similar micro-ops. May be there is something AMD is weak at.
saratoga - Thursday, August 30, 2007 - link
Do you guys feel the same. When the MADD goes thru the OOO, it should be decoded as MUL and ADD micro-ops.
Since muls have a very high latency compared to adds, and a dependency would exist between the ops, this would not be a good way to do things.
There should not be a big difference if we use two instructions MUL and ADD, which should get similar micro-ops.
The result is the same (obviously), but its slower and complicates scheduling for no logical reason. Compared to a multiplier, adders are very cheap. Reply
redpriest_ - Thursday, August 30, 2007 - linkLook at Itanium's fused multiply add. Reply
jiulemoigt - Thursday, August 30, 2007 - linkWell I wrote several versions but what it comes down to is I'm scratching my at the example as it looks like it was written by marketing without asking an engineer how to code it. The first can be written in half that many lines of code and more efficiently, it looks like vb code that was automatically translated by a very bad compiler. I've written code for both chips and generally hand coding will give code than four about four times faster but is not practical considering time constraints and the number of people that can write assembler code. Yet using instructions is supposed to speed up the rate code goes because the computer performs a series of instructions that have predefined procedures ie store data in A, store data in B, ADD A to B, repeat C times, return B, where as this looks like store data in A, store data in B, Add A,B store in C, return C, repeat with new numbers multiple times, go back and get data returned from C and store in A compare to data from pass two stored in B store result in C return C, get data just returned compare to data from pass three, store in C return C, get data just returned etc... with the second one using the location but still using a third location! Instead of ADD a,b with the result in B, return B to location 1, return B to loc2, then store loc 1 in A, loc 2 in B ADD A,B return B.
The interesting thing about the number of instructions in the example is that the time it takes to one instruction to complete is far different, as store statements are not equal to compare statements are not equal to ADD/MUL statements, the computer can do an ADD statement faster than it can find data on local cache let alone system memory. One of the reason graphic cards are so much faster at MADD tends to do with the data being right there, which is why graphic DRR is so much more expensive than system memory. and now AMD wants to join the slowest instruction with the fast ones? This is something people should be really wondering about since it kills prefetch as it is going to make the system wait for data with every pass including the ones that should be really fast. That suggests they are going to try and force the scheduler to get longer blocks of data like Intel did with its P4 which was a very bad design since branching logic is only so good, and every miss will cause the CPU to sit ideal, covering up misses with longer cycles.
Any way for the non-coders SSE takes low level code and packages chunks of code that can be pasted to the CPU as one chunk it knows what to do with. Usually this makes the chunks get processed faster as scheduler on the CPU takes the chunks as one piece and it all gets pushed through no waiting, only in this case it is forcing the CPU to be an in-order CPU for every instruction so coded, which is bad because normally it can crank through fast instructions ideal through slow ones, this will force it to ideal through many slow ones, as opposed to simply burning through the fast short ones, less ideal time fast the job gets done, but with everything waiting on store statements there will be an increase in ideal time, since it is easier to stack a bunch of small legos in a box than four bowling balls. Just think of store statements as getting the legos or the bowling balls to put in the box you may have to make more trips to get enough legos to fill the box but the trips are faster and if you get two many legos the amount that does not fit will be small where as that last bowling balls is a significant amount compared to what is in the box. Rough analogy but I'm supposed to be relaxing not thinking about work.
Oh and MMX when it first came out was a PR stunt and it was only about two years after being added that someone found a use for it, as kludge to simply coding for people who were not willing to do it right. 3DNow was just as bad SSE was the first set that was actually useful, when added to compiler to speed up certain repetitive tasks like encoding and rendering. Though this new set defeats the purpose of having all those new registers to use! Reply
PeteRoy - Thursday, August 30, 2007 - linkReturn of the Jedi anyone? Reply
her34 - Thursday, August 30, 2007 - linknext for amd:
the geforce 10800xt Reply
peldor - Thursday, August 30, 2007 - linkThis strikes me as a way to distract from the lack of a complete SSE4 implementation. Reply
redpriest_ - Thursday, August 30, 2007 - linkSSE5 is far more robust than SSE4. Reply
ltcommanderdata - Thursday, August 30, 2007 - linkI was wondering whether there are any copyrights to the SSE and MMX names that Intel owns? SSE was originally started as a polarized opposition to 3DNow!, but I think having both Intel and AMD developing something dubbed "SSE" without a unified standard will get very convoluted very quickly. Like an SSE4a that appears to be a superset of SSE4 but is actually exclusive and SSE5 being only a partial superset. I can only imagine what would happen if Intel decided to label their next instruction set "the real SSE5" or introduce a SSE6 that completely skips over AMD's SSE5.
You know, one of the things I've found interesting is how there are little things that Intel and AMD are doing can be viewed as appealing to Apple. Intel's Penryn for example has their Super Shuffle Engine which improves SSE packing, unpacking etc. which can be viewed as an attempt to meet the functionality of the Vector Permute Unit in the G4e and G5. Similarly, the move to 3-operand SSE also seems like an appeal to Altivec programmers. Reply
MikeyJ79 - Thursday, August 30, 2007 - linkIf I remember correctly, when AMD put MMX instructions in their K6 processor. Intel tried to sue them, but AMD won out. I don't remember the specific details, but I believe that was the jist of it. Reply
rcc - Thursday, August 30, 2007 - linkYou don't horn in on other companys' naming schemes etc. It's actually more likely that someone seeing SSE5 will think it's an Intel spec than an AMD spec. I really dislike the whole lawsuit happy system we have going, but AMD needs to be slapped for this one.
DigitalFreak - Thursday, August 30, 2007 - linkIt's just AMD marketing BS, trying to make themselves look like they are leading again, like in the x64 days, instead of following. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if this ended up being called something else by the time it finally arrives. Reply
Omega215D - Friday, August 31, 2007 - linkLike AMD64 for Intel is called EM64T? Despite their competitive nature they still license tech from each other here and there. Reply
crimson117 - Thursday, August 30, 2007 - linkHow does this benefit AMD?
Does appearing to be (or becoming) a specification leader give them an advantage; for example is it easier for their chip designers to use AMD-developed specs than Intel-developed specs?
It seems like this cannot be a low-cost endeavor. Reply


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Hurricane blows off global warming, according to a report in Science News vol. 171, p358, 9 June 2007. Since the mid 1990's there has been an average of four Category-3 or stronger hurricanes in the North Atlantic and Caribbean, and many scientists and environmentalists have blamed this high number of strong hurricanes on global warming. Hurricane formation and strength is influenced by sea surface temperatures and wind shear. Wind shear is a phenomenon where adjacent layers of air move at different speeds or in different directions. Higher sea surface temperatures provide more energy for hurricanes, but strong wind shear tends to break them up.
Scientists at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration in Boulder, Colorado have looked at records of hurricanes and sea temperatures going back to 1730, and analysed marine sediments and corals to build up a picture of how temperature and wind shear affect the frequency and strength of hurricanes. Corals and sediments are indicators of wind shear because if wind shear is high there is upwelling of nutrient-rich water in the sea and more thunderstorms on land which increases the amount of organic matter washed into the sea. The nutrients and organic matter affect the growth rate of corals and the numbers of microscopic creatures in the sediments. Researchers found wind shear seemed to be a stronger influence on the number of strong hurricanes. Some periods of low hurricane activity occurred with sea surface temperatures were higher than normal, but were marked by strong wind shear. They also noted that there were "at least six lengthy intervals since 1730" where hurricane activity was the same as today. Put into the context of the last 180 years, it seems the recent period of intense hurricanes is just a return to average frequency after a low period in the 1970's and 80's.
Editorial Comment: This study reminds us of the importance of history. Just as there have been periods with more or fewer strong hurricanes, there have been periods in earth's history when it has been hotter and colder than what we are currently experiencing. This is exactly what God is recorded as forecasting in Genesis 8:22 when Noah was told that until God brings the earth to an end, there will be alternating periods of heat and cold. (Ref. weather, cyclones, storms)
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