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After a few nights off, the Timberwolves returned to action on Friday night to take on the Bobcats in Charlotte. Minnesota entered the game with a 32-31 record, while Charlotte was coming in off of a win Wednesday night in Washington, moving their record to 31-34 on the year. The Bobcats are currently in the seven seed position in the Eastern Conference playoffs and won seven games in a row at home. What happened … well, you probably saw the title of the article?
The Pups' starting lineup: Rubio, Martin, Brewer, Love, and Pekovic. The Bobcats opened up with Kemba Walker, Gerald Henderson, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Josh McRoberts, and ex-Pup Al Jefferson.
First Half
In a somewhat slow start to the game, aided by a "clear path" review by the refs, the Bobcats took an 8-7 lead into the game's first timeout with about 8.5 minutes left in the 1st quarter. Gerald Henderson had all 8 points for the Bobcats, allowing me to daydream about this past offseason one more time. I have always liked Henderson's game and thought he would be a good fit for the Wolves.
Coming out of the first timeout, it looked like both teams decided to wake up and unofficially start playing real NBA basketball. Kevin Martin and Kevin Love led the way for the Wolves in the quarter. After the timeout, MKG and Big Al stood out for the Bobcats and balancing out the Kevin's efforts. At the end of the 1st quarter, the teams were tied at 33-33.
Wholesale lineup changes for Adelman's club to start out the 2nd quarter and let's just say that this didn't start or end well. I'm not sure what it is going to take to move away from this outside of Flip taking over as coach. Dear lord … not only did the rotation not work, but Adelman refused to burn a timeout, waiting for the official's timeout before reinserting Love and Nikola Pekovic into the game. However, the damage was done, as the Bobcats led 50-41.
Despite having many of the starters back in, the Wolves fell further in the hole, 59-43. So, to recap what happened here; backups fell behind double digits and when the wholesale changes back to the starting lineup took place, those players were all cooled off and out of the flow of the game. What team uses this strategy successfully?! This actually came off my keyboard during the 2nd quarter misery:
While I know this will burn me a year from now, I'm completely OK with Adelman walking away in the offseason.
— john flesta(@jflesta) March 15, 2014
I'm sadly not overstating this, while completely realizing the likelihood that the alternative is better is about one in ten. At the half, the Bobcats held a 65-53 advantage. Here are a few thoughts going into the locker room:
- At the half, the best +/- from the Wolves' bench was a -11 from LRMAM.
- Gary Neal, en fuego. 5-7 from the field for 16 points. Coincidentally, much of his playing time was against … you guessed it, the Wolves' bench.
Second Half
The Pups started the 3rd quarter 0-5 from the field and their body language to start the half was poor. Adelman may have noticed this and took an early timeout, with just over two minutes gone by and the team down 67-53. Gorgui Dieng checked in for a struggling Pekovic and Big Al took him to school early on a pump fake. Dieng tried to make up for the lost step but was called for a goaltend. The rookie spent much of the next few minutes in Jekyll and Hyde mode with positive and negative plays up and down the court. This ties in nicely with a request for PT for the rookies the rest of the way. Please and thank you.
The body language for the Wolves got progressively worse as the 3rd quarter rolled on. As the teams entered the final frame, the Bobcats held a 13 point lead, 88-75. It could have been worse, but Chris Douglas-Roberts couldn't get a made 35 foot three pointer out of his hands in time.
As the 4th quarter started, the Wolves official word on Pekovic was a sore ankle and his return was questionable. Frankly, it probably didn't matter. The Wolves couldn't get the Bobcats' lead under 10 points and much of the 4th quarter felt like it was just going through the motions. Final score, 105-93 – moving the Wolves back to .500 on the season.
Three Stars of the Game
- Al Jefferson – 25 & 16 for the ex-Pup
- Gary Neal – Lights out shooting when it mattered, finishing with 19 points in 25 minutes
- Wolves Twitter – No one on the Wolves roster deserves the slot, and honestly, there isn't anyone else on the Bobcats either. So thanks to Wolves Twitter for keeping tonight's game semi-interesting.
Key Takeaways
- Dave Benz pointed this out late in the game, but the Wolves were outrebounded 54-35 in tonight's game. When is the last time it was THAT bad with this team?!
- All eyes should probably stay on Pek's injury and if he will have to miss any more time over the next week or so. With the playoffs unofficially, officially out of sight and mind, do the Wolves turn overly cautious with the big man (and his contract)?


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Preparing for P55: Motherboards, Memory and NVIDIAby Anand Lal Shimpi on 8/20/2009 4:00 PM EST
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strikeback03 - Tuesday, August 25, 2009 - linkWhat does uATX have to do with sexy desktops? Reply
araczynski - Tuesday, August 25, 2009 - link...i immediately thought of an impotent old man yelling "I can almost get it up!" Reply
ClagMaster - Sunday, August 23, 2009 - linkOne feature that would be welcome (at least for me) with the Lynnfield/P55 is the option to run unbuffered ECC memory. With memory sizes pushing 16GB using DDR3 memory with smaller memory cells, lower voltages, higher operating frequencies, I expect (sooner or later) memory parity errors will eventually become a emergent problem with desktop systems.
Memory parity errors arise from memory cells loosing their charges from alpha particle interactions from radioactive decay of uranium or thorium impurities within the silicon, or energetic cosmic ray interactions. This lost bit causes data corruption that ECC can detect and fix.
I remember seeing a white paper from the Corsair Website a few years ago that claimed a 256MB stick of DDR memory experienced about ~3 memory parity error events per month. At that rate, 16GB would be equivalent to 19 parity error events each month. If you really need that amount of memory for a 64-bit system for running applications, then the probablity is greater for fatal errors which cause BSD's, or even worse, non-fatal errors that corrupt data.
I would not be surprised ECC memory soon becoming popular with desktop systems.
tajmahal - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkSince these CPUs and motherboards have been out for retail sale in Taiwan for over a week now and in AU for a few days, does anyone have any benchmark links? Too bad AT and other sites signed up with Intels NDA and then got screwed by them with their mass release of the i5 and i7 LGA1156 CPUs. I can only find a few links in ATs forums and other forums. Reply
ComputerGuy2006 - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkGigabyte GA-P55-UD6 looks interesting... 10 sata ports (4 of them 6GB) along with (apaprently) 2 eSata ports. Reply
papapapapapapapababy - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkcall me when there is a game that uses 5% of all this power.
(EFFICIENTLY) i dont mean super h res console crap.
where the hell is the next cryteck? Reply
iwodo - Thursday, August 20, 2009 - linkDo games still need to be specially written in Driver to get it properly supported? Reply
jordanclock - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkThat hasn't been an issue since about a month or two after SLI debuted. You can create an SLI profile for just about any game, and most of the time receive a large performance boost if you were GPU limited with one card. I don't know why you were under the impression that games have to be added to the driver to be "properly supported," as you put it. Reply
davekozy - Thursday, August 20, 2009 - linkPCIE 2 8x is fast enough for GTX 285 and 4890 but does limit 4870x2 and 295 a little. Going forward this limit will be more important with 300 and 5000 series cards. So it might not matter much today but in a few months this will be a bigger concern.
SLI works on my P6T with the slots 16,16,4. The statement that Nvidia doesn't allow SLI with mismatched PCIE speeds is not correct. I think it's more the slow connection to the P55 chipset through the 4x slot that they're worried about and therefore not allowing SLI on these configurations. If customers buy a second card for SLI and get little increase then they might not try it again. AMD looks to follow suit according to the article. Reply
snakeoil - Thursday, August 20, 2009 - linkthe crippled intel lynfield offers nothing new its just a crippled core i7 at the same price.
annandtech anaunces this fantastic progress but this is a farce, intel reducing costs and the intel user getting less at the same price. Reply
TA152H - Thursday, August 20, 2009 - linkI agree. It's a Celeron in drag. I'm OK with Celerons if they are cheap enough, but show me someone that pays $350 for a Lynnfield/Celeron motherboard, and I'll show you an idiot. You're just better off with the real deal.
My main problem with this Celeron is when it oversteps what it is, and ends up in the arena of the real i7. If it's cheap, it's a great deal, on a fine processor. But when they start making $350 motherboards for this Celeron, then you have to scratch your head and wonder what the point is. With x58 motherboards now available for less than $200, why would anyone pay so much for an x55?
I think this processor will settle into it's proper market segment over time, but, for now, I'm just confused by the amount of attention it's getting, and how expensive some of the parts are. Really, $350 for a x55 motherboard? Why? Reply
ClagMaster - Friday, August 21, 2009 - link"I agree. It's a Celeron in drag. I'm OK with Celerons if they are cheap enough, but show me someone that pays $350 for a Lynnfield/Celeron motherboard, and I'll show you an idiot. You're just better off with the real deal."
You just convinced me you are either an idiot or a fool. Real idiots are too mentally degraded to write. I see you can write. Since most of your posts have been mostly obnoxious, priggish, based on fashionable contrarianism, I suspect the latter. One would hope your eating habits are more refined than you post habits -- that you would smell it first before you take a bite. So I will endeavor, with patience, to perhaps correct your foolishness, your proud studied stupidity.
The Lynnfield i5/i7 do not qualify as Celerons. Not by a longshot. Not for a longtime. Celerons are sub-$100 processors made from degraded cores that have been around for a year. They often have reduced L2 caches and FSB frequencies. Lynnfields start at $200, have not been released yet, have the same L2/L3 cache, operate at the same frequencies, have the same architecture, and have nearly the same performance of the Bloomfield i7. These are brand new, fully featured, state of the art processors that pack a real performance wallop.
Calling the Lynnfield i5/i7 a Celeron is not defensible. In fact, its patiently silly and irresponsable. Only a willful fool would make such an assertion. A fool who clearly does not know what he is talking about.
The Lynnfield i5/i7 is an adaptation of the Bloomfield i7 for mainstream/high performance desktop computing needs. Not for your imagined needs TA152H. The goal of this adaptation is affordable aquisition and operating costs while offering excellent performance of the Nahelem architecture.
The i7 Bloomfield was designed as a server processor to compete with the Opterons. What is changed in Lynnfield is the third memory channel and special high speed CPU/chipset/memory interconnect has been removed. This high speed interconnect is mainly useful for server/workstation applications which have extremely high bandwidth requirements that do not exist for desktop computing. The loss of the third channel and high-speed interconnect has been demonstrated to not be noticable in a desktop mainstream/high performance desktop computing environment.
I hope you like the taste of crow TA152H. Because, from Mr Shimpi's May article, the Lynnfield i5/i7 with the P55 chipset is reasonably certain to have perfomance comparable to today's Bloomfield/X58 at a fraction of the cost and power consumption.
This is the smarter choice for my money.
Lastly, do not call reasonable people idiots because they don't think like you do. Or they don't entertain the same expectations of their hardware as you do. Or are subjected to very real constraints (like money and personal responsability) than you. If you want to be effective in this forum, stop calling people idiots. It would really be great if you were more responsable with your posts
strikeback03 - Tuesday, August 25, 2009 - linkLet's not get too hasty with quotes such as "at a fraction of the cost and power consumption." Generally when "At a fraction of" is used, it means a small fraction. So far Lynnfield is looking like it will be 60-80% of the cost of an X58/920 system. We'll have to wait for final performance numbers and prices, but when the difference in price can be made up by skipping going out to the movies for a few months it isn't a life-altering event.
As far as the power consumption thing goes, we'll definitely have to wait for retail silicon to see. Considering that Intel already sells the Nehalem Xeons with 95W TDPs, I wouldn't be too surprised if the current consumer i7s are less power hungry as the process matures and voltages can be dropped. The majority of the difference between 1156 and 1366 might end up being in the chipset and extra RAM. Reply
ClagMaster - Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - linkI agree.
I think the cost for a P55/Quad i5 will be 70% the cost of a X58/920 system. That is what I had in mind when I called it a fraction of the cost.
I consider a 1156 i5/i7 at 95W is pretty good compared to the 1366 i7 at 130W.
I too believe lower power i5/i7's will become available when voltages are dropped. I think 65W i5/i7's eventually will become available just as the Penrym 95W Quad Cores had 65W models.
james jwb - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkWhy don't you two get a room and get it all of your chest together. You both have latched onto this $350 pricing as if this is Intel's fault. You should be blaming EVGA and others for these types of boards, and stick to reality, which is that there will be very good boards at about $120 once prices cool down.
Again, blame the AIB's that think they can sucker people to buy these high end boards, and i think EVGA is at the forefront of this crap.
Sure, i don't like Intel's general strategy with i5 over i7 much here either, but i like you two less.
TA152H - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkClearly, you're an idiot.
I didn't blame Intel, or even mention Intel. I mentioned the platform.
I have also said the platform should be viable when the prices fall down. I have a big problem with the cost. It's too much for what it is.
Buy a book on reading comprehension, if you can understand this sentence. Reply
JustPassing - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkOh, come on. Why don't you just say something like "I believe that overly expensive motherboards don't make sense, given the intended product positioning". If that's all you want to say, then just say it, instead of throwing terms like 'crippled' and 'celeron in drag' around when referring to the processors themselves. Reply
mesiah - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkJames, don't feed the trolls :P
Both snake and TA have been beating there scewed view of lynnfield into the ground since the first specs came out. Then to drive their point home they try to focus on the absolute highest priced mobos, or numbers reported from locked down engineering samples. Theres always going to be companies like evga that make decked out versions of mother boards no matter what cpu they are for. The fact of the matter is, none of us knows what the true performance numbers of these new CPUs are except for places like anandtech that are lucky enough to have their hands on them. Until intel removes the gag order on performance specs we can only speculate. But based on the excitement coming from most major tech outlets I am willing to bet that guys like snake and TA will be eating their words very soon. Lets not forget that these "crippled" cpus as they like to refer to them are only missing things that are generally excepted as overkill for mainstream computing and gaming, and the things that really effect performance for the average person such as hyper threading and high clock speeds are all present and accounted for. I have a feeling when real numbers for the lynnfield i7s start showing up, alot of people who bought i7 920s are going to be wishing they waited a few more months. But only time will tell. Reply
Interitus - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkThank you.
Here I thought I might be the only person completely irritated by the 1366 fanboys here. Reply
ClagMaster - Thursday, August 20, 2009 - linkI am really looking forward to the Lynnfield/P55 launch next month. The P55 motherboard product line looks really good, The vendors have put a lot of work into these boards and it shows. For $130, a user can get a really nice P55 motherboard. And this time Nvidia/Intel are not mucking around with licensing for those who have a crying need for SLI.
This launch is really directed toward advanced mainstream users who are willing to invest $600-$700 in a CPU/Mobo/Memory/Graphics Card upgrade. Four slots of 8-16GB of DDR3-1600 memory is more than adequate for mainstream usage.
If everything holds true with Lynnfield/P55, then i7/X58 performance is available for about 70% the cost. Reply
TA152H - Thursday, August 20, 2009 - linkWhat are you basing this on? A dream you had last night?
The processors are slower, and the prices are kind of high. I don't know where this quality shows for the motherboards, since you've probably never seen one, and probably wouldn't know how to judge the quality anyway (I wouldn't either, so don't take it the wrong way).
Interitus - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkFor crying out loud, stop the 1156 bashing. Sure the naming scheme is stupid, but beyond that there's nothing wrong with 1156.
#1: Not everyone wants a space heater for a PC. Just because you want triple SLI and a high TDP processor, don't assume everyone does. Some people value efficiency, eco-friendliness, and cost of ownership. A 95w TDP quad core fits nicely here. A system running cool and quiet is a realistic demand for many people.
#2: The $350 board they're speaking about is more than likely the EVGA FTW board. The "Classified" of P55. It's absurdly expensive and not aimed at anyone but the extremists, yet still $100 cheaper than its 1366 counterpart. So your argument for the $350 board being ridiculous is pointless in terms of 1366 vs. 1156 reference. P55 will still be cheaper than X58, and I'm sure the "budget" versions of both chipsets will see a difference margin of around $100. For a single component, that's significant.
#3: All new parts are inflated in price when they hit the shelves for the first time. 1366 was absolutely stupid expensive when it came out. Look at the current prices for 1366 CPU's. There's one for ~$200 and then it goes through the roof after that. And it's been a long time since release. Of course p55 is going to be overpriced at launch, and all the manufacturers know people hate waiting and will throw down extra cash because of it. That aside there's always people that want to play with new products.
#4: The mainstream user doesn't care if there's another CPU out there that offers a tad better performance for the same price if it means they have to double their board cost. The performance of the 1156 platform is close enough to 1366 (sans SLI) that it's negligible in real-world situations. Really, the only reason I could see going to 1366 other than SLI is for future i9 support, but as always there's no guarantees there either. Triple channel RAM for most people isn't worth it right now.
#5: The quality he's referring to in the boards is plainly visible in the pictorial reviews here on AT. Look at them yourself. Sounds to me like you're the one who hasn't ever seen them. I can tell you right now I paid $200 for my P35 board, and it doesn't have half the luxuries that some of these P55 boards do. It's not a hardware generation gap causing the difference either. For $125 you're probably going to get a very full featured board with good cooling and tons of peripheral options. Not rocket science here. Sure we don't know how good they perform, but quality applies to more than how a board performs. I'd take a 5% less benchmark score any day if it meant upgraded cooling, extra I/O and better layout for a similar price.
Pretty much every 1366 mongering argument you have here can be negated by just whispering these words to yourself a few thousand times...
"The hardware world doesn't revolve around me" Reply
JustPassing - Saturday, August 22, 2009 - link1156 platform also supports SLI (sorry, I posted this later in the thread, whereas I should have posted here) Reply
ClagMaster - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkTo Interitus
Thank you
I couldn't agree with you more with your excellent 5 point rebuttal.
The Lynnfield/P55 release is going to almost as great as the Conroe/P965 release 3 years ago. I can hardly wait to see how these new products perform. Barring a major BIOS snaffu with the new P55 boards, I strongly suspect we are not going to be disappointed with this release.
Intel wants to compete with AMD in the mainstream segment. A blind man can see Intel developed Lynnfield/P55 because truly understood the Bloomfield/X58 is ridiculously expensive for the mainstream user -- like me -- on a restricted budget.
In addition to aquisition costs, I also care about operating expenses and the 95W TDP has great appeal to me. At 130W, the Bloomfield i7 is the same sort of spaceheater the Pentium-D was once ridiculed. I want a quiet thermal solution for my rig and I also want to use my existing 500W power supply. I can do better with Lynnfield where I get the same performance at 95W.
Mr Shimpi's early test and assessment of Lynnfield/P55 contained in the competent article "The Lynnfield Preview: Rumblings of Revenge" has convinced me the Lynnfield/P55 is the way to go. Most of my applications are single threaded and the more aggressive turbo mode will be most useful. The $200 2.66 Ghz Quad i5 is all I really need for my computing.
I plan on buying my Lynnfield/P55/DDR3-1600 upgrade in July/August 2010 when prices are their lowest, and Intel has likely released revised steppings to fix the errata.
Again, thanks. I really appreciate your comments. Reply
TA152H - Friday, August 21, 2009 - link1. Then you get a Penryn, which is more power efficient, and much smaller. Especially the S models. For the cost of the Lynnfield, you can get a very nice Penryn system.
2. You're obviously not bright enough to realize no extremist should get a x55. What an absurd statement. The people that need real performance will get the x58. Do you really not understand that? So why the $350 x55 motherboard?
3. Again, another really stupid remark. You pay a lot for new parts when they are BETTER than is out there. The x58 qualifies for that. The x55 doesn't. When the new part performs worse than what is out there, you run into the problem where you get the same cost in many platforms, and worse performance. That's where my problem is with this platform. It's a Celeron, but the price isn't where it should be.
4. When this product is priced as a mainstream part, I'd agree. Mainstream users could get a i7 920, and under $200 motherboard and be better off. They have a stronger platform, and better options in the future. If the Lynnfield were significantly cheaper, I'd say it's in a different segment, but the problem is, it's really not different enough. Also, with the degraded performance, you're running into the Penryn for some gaming benchmarks. That's a lot cheaper, and with the money spent on a video card, could easily be the better platform. Again, my problem is this crippled processor is just not priced right to make a lot of sense.
5. If you think you can tell the quality of a motherboard by looking at pictures, you're clearly an idiot. There's no way to tell how reliable they are from that. Do Supermicro pictures look so different from other manufacturers? Of all your remarks, that's clearly the dumbest, and that's saying something.
Your pro x55 arguments could be negated by just whispering the words "I'm really stupid, and don't understand a lot besides I want something new", to yourself.
Also, I have said I think the platform will settle down to make sense, but the initial costs are crazy, and the market segment it is trying to get are disconnected from the price.
Especially for gamers, I think it makes no sense at the current costs. A Penryn with a better video card should be better for most games, for the mainstream buyer, and the real i7 is for the people that have too much money to know what to do with it. When the costs come down, the argument favoring the Penryn will go away, but, the costs do have to come down. Reply
Interitus - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkWow.
1. How bout I get an i5 which in some cases beats your beloved 1366 i7 at less power draw and TDP instead?
2. You're obviously not bright enough to realize that the FTW boards are made for sub-zero temperatures. Or you're not bright enough to realize that even enthusiasts overclock Celerons to the extreme just for giggles or to see what they can do. By your logic, nobody should bother to OC an AMD because it's slower than an i7.
3. You are the reason motherboard manufacturers laugh all day. Again, try to squeeze into your little head the simple fact that i5 can keep up with an i7 920. Just try to imagine what an 1156 i7 would do? Mind boggling. I know.
4. Again, it's high right now because it just came out. It will drop just like the 920 did, just like the 950 eventually will, and just like every 1366 board has to some extent.
5. Quality isn't just about performance. Sure it's a big part, but it's not all of it. Features, board layout, cooling: all components that determine quality in a board that you can see without ever firing it up. I never said that the pictures were the end-all determinant of a board's quality. But it's not hard to tell when time, innovation, and effort have been put into a design when you're staring at it.
I'm not saying X58 sucks. That's more what you're doing. Saying how bad P55 sucks, and you're just flat out wrong. It doesn't suck, it isn't a waste of money, and it's damn close if not edging over your X58 in performance without SLI for a hell of a lot cheaper even with inflated prices.
You can sit here and argue all day that I'm some idiot, it won't bother me. I'm sure 90% of the people here know what I'm saying. Maybe I am kinda dumb for even bothering to type this. Obviously you've made up your mind already, and I don't care if you hate P55. Just don't make it out to be garbage for people who come to this site for information when it's clearly not.
By the way, check Newegg. The E8600 is still $269. Just short of an i7. Will people still buy them knowing this? Yes. Why? Because $269 is less than the $280+$280 it would cost just for an i7 and a compatible board. That's not even including RAM. Same goes for i5 only it's even more attractive because an i5 is just as fast as that $280 i7 920. You've got around $350 for a board and i5 CPU, or $450 for a board and i7 920 CPU. That's $100 difference. Both perform about the same. If you don't plan to SLI, why bother with 1366 in that situation? Reply
JustPassing - Saturday, August 22, 2009 - link1156 platform also supports SLI. Reply
Interitus - Saturday, August 22, 2009 - linkMeant Tri-SLI, sorry. Reply
Natfly - Friday, August 21, 2009 - link1. Sure you could buy a penryn if you cared about power draw and nothing else. But nehalem has higher performance per watt and better upgrade possibilities. Why go with a dead architecture.
2. The P55 chipset straight from Intel costs less than the X58, P55 boards will be cheaper than x58 boards on average. Nobody is forcing you to buy a $350 P55 board just like no one is forcing you to buy a $450 x58 board.
3-4. The 920 is ~$280, a similarly clocked i5 will retail for ~200. You can get a decent x58 board for $200 or a P55 board for $140. $480 vs $340, seems pretty substantial to me, especially for similar performance.
You can keep thinking that the 1156 procs are celerons and keep posting it whenever you see a blurb on Anandtech that mentions anything related to Intel, but that won't make you right.
Bottom line, 1156: processors are cheaper, chipsets are cheaper, on average the boards are cheaper, performance is slightly worse. It fits. Reply
TA152H - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkYou're typical of moving the numbers slightly, and thereby losing the value.
The low end p55 ATX motherboards are around $130. Low end ATX x58 motherboards are $170. $40 isn't worth it. Do we really know the price of the processors yet? Speculation isn't fact.
Really, this is a perfect example of a Celeron, in a classic sense. Damaged cache, and/or memory speeds are how Intel would marginalize them. What's different with this? Reply
strikeback03 - Tuesday, August 25, 2009 - link$130 is 76% of $170, so even if the processor costs the same and you ignore the differences in RAM cost and performance, there are plenty of people who will be happy to get close to the performance of the 1366 platform for that discount. The preview showed a ~5% difference, we'll see what the retail processors show but I don't doubt there will be plenty of people happy to go P55 if they can get 95% of the performance for 76% the price of the i7/1366. Don't mention gaming, most of these quad-core processors are not as good a value as a fast dual-core today anyway.
Plus, remember, people have bought and overclocked Celerons before. Reply
Natfly - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkWell in the article Anand mentions that the cheapest P55 would be just under $100, I figured the midrange would be $130 or so, with midrange x58 boards being around $200.
As for the prices of the Lynnfield lineup, multiple sites have confirmed the price points. Fry's even accidentally listed one of the processors: http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15040/35/">http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15040/35/
If you want to nitpick about speculation vs facts, then even the performance of these is speculation, considering all previews/reviews have been with engineering silicon and beta bioses.
Celerons were/are crippled, less cache, slower clock speeds, slower fsb, fewer supported instruction sets. All around, greatly reduced performance.
Lynnfield is not crippled. It may not have the third memory channel or QPI, but neither of those dramatically affect performance, especially in the majority of apps. In trade for these Lynnfield gains higher turbo modes, lower tdp, smaller package, and an on-die PCIe controller. In several ways it is more advanced than the 1366 processors. Reply
JustPassing - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkI hope that it is intentional that you incorrectly refer to P55 as x55. If not, you make yourself look like even more of an idiot, if possible. :P Reply
dtgoodwin - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkIt seems to me that most seem to be forgetting the advantage the i5 will have with the much higher turbo overclocks. Most of the time, this will make the i5 quite a bit faster than it's comparable base speed i7. Yes, the platform is surprisingly expensive for a "cut down" version of the i7, but I suspect within a few months, it will find it's place in the market and be an very desirable combination for those wanting better performance than Penryn or Phenom II, but without the higher cost of the i7. Reply
TA152H - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkYou're assuming the i7 won't be changed. It's HIGHLY unlikely Intel would make the boost higher on the lower end chip. They're not that stupid. Reply
ClagMaster - Thursday, August 20, 2009 - linkI am looking forward to the Lynnfield/P55 launch next month. The P P55 motherboard product line looks really good. For $130, a user can get a really nice motherboard
This launch is really directed toward advanced mainstream users who are willing to invest $600-$700 in a CPU/Mobo/Memory/Graphics Card upgrade. Four DDR3 slots for 8GB of memory is more than adequate for mainstream usage.
If everything holds true with Lynnfield/P55, i7/X58 performance is available for about 70% the cost. Reply
bamacre - Thursday, August 20, 2009 - linkCome on, even Dell's X58 systems have 6 dimm's. Memory is still cheap, there's no reason for these high-end boards to skimp on dimm slots. Most of us were paying $200 for 2GB kits just a few years ago, and you can get 12GB for less than that now. Reply
JarredWalton - Thursday, August 20, 2009 - linkThe Lynnfield platform is dual-channel, so six slots means you need to support three DIMMs per channel. That introduces latency and signaling issues, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's a restriction on what sort of modules you can use (i.e. you may only be able to use one double-sided DIMM with two single-sided DIMMs in each channel if you want to populate all six slots). Reply
nuttie43 - Thursday, August 20, 2009 - linkSo...in Europe at least motherboards are already showing up in stock. The cheapest are almost as cheap as X58. What is the point of getting 1156 & I5 when 1366 & I7 cost the same? Reply
TA152H - Thursday, August 20, 2009 - linkHave you ruled out stupidity? Reply
bh192012 - Thursday, August 20, 2009 - linkSo it's time to revisit PCIe 2.0 bandwidth limitations right before launch please... if I throw a pair of 4890's on 2 8x 2.0 slots v.s. 2 16x 2.0 slots is there a difference. How about if I'm using 295 GTX's? Reply
shabby - Thursday, August 20, 2009 - linkTotally agree. Reply
shabby - Thursday, August 20, 2009 - linkSeriously wtf, the prices for this platform are nearing the x58 and offer no advantages whatsoever. Reply
JustPassing - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkJust under $100 sounds quite nice though, doesn't it? If I'm going to spend over $200 then I want one with the Lucid chip working as promised :P Reply
Dudler - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkSure? Don't forget that the Lucid Hydra 100 is ONLY 32 lanes down and 16 up.. All of them PCiE 1.1.... So to get benefit to a 5870x2 quadfire setup, you first have to pass all information through 16 lanes PCiE 1.1 ... I'll bet that really swamp and maybe bottleneck the bandwidth..
Then a quadfire with 4x5870 would be 8 lanes a card, and not enough imo. And all of the cards still connecting to the system with 16xPCiE 1.1.
And don't forget the Hydra doen't support different manufacturers.. You got to choose either nVidia or ATi. Reply
JustPassing - Saturday, August 22, 2009 - linkThe way I would use such a motherboard would be for a dual GPU setup. I reckon that 16 lanes feeding a crossbar switch should be sufficient for this purpose, even if only 1.1, although moving to latest gen would be preferable.
Also, I would be using a balanced setup, whether that be from nVidia, AMD/ATI or indeed Intel. So if wouldn't bother me if I were restricted to a single driver set. It wouldn't be any worse than using CF or SLI in that respect anyway. Reply
mostlyprudent - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkI bet Intel raises the prices of X58 and i7 after the P55 and i5 release. Reply
TA152H - Thursday, August 20, 2009 - linkYou're right. The market segmentation of this processor seems crazy.
I think it's a processor for idiots, at least initially. They'll call it an i7, and the masses won't know the difference between it and the real deal, and so they'll think they're getting the good one, and end up with the degraded processor.
Over time, maybe it will settle down to make sense, but, really, the prices seem high for where this product belongs.
I'm glad other people are seeing it. Did the $350 motherboard hit you like a brick? Why would anyone want this? Reply
Samus - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkSo Intel's future lineup consists of low end Atom, high end P55 and the ultra-high end X58. I guess they haven't heard the global economy is in a sort of recession...lol
At least for now there's the underdog to pickup the mid-range segment. Reply
IlllI - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkyou forgot about the i3. eventually you'll see an i3 processor too
Rajinder Gill - Friday, August 21, 2009 - link'Why would anyone want this?'
Simply because people feel they must or because they have the money to burn. Whichever way it goes, I doubt the very presence of high price P55 boards is going to detract from the $130 market or even sub $130 market.I think some people see the high dollar boards and think that the budget segment is going to disappear as a result. The $200+ boards really are for those who just buy stuff on a whim or those that have specialized needs from a platform - like chasing max scores on a paticular processor model class for points in competitions such as Hwbot (you get HW based points - so even though i7 1366 is or may be faster, there are openings to score on an 870 CPU). Might sound stupid, but there's an industry for this stuff..
Marc B - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkI can't believe the fanfare hardware sites are attempting to create with this joker. Why is Intel making such a big deal about a slower, later to the market platform that is comparably priced to their high performance chipset?
This is not news, and hardware sites look like shills for manufacturers with multiple articles trumpeting slower, later, yet nearly matching in price products. This P55 deserves no more attention than Celeron updates received in the past. Reply
nubie - Thursday, August 20, 2009 - linkWhat about the on-die pci-e? Maybe that will pay off in reduced latency?
I am not spending over $130 for one though, even if I win the lotto. (unless it is mini-ITX or something) Reply
TemjinGold - Thursday, August 20, 2009 - link"Over 13 games now support Phsyx..." So... 14 games now support it (according to the pic)? Somehow, "over 13" doesn't sound too impressive... Reply
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yacoub - Thursday, August 20, 2009 - linkYou're correct that "over 13" is a horrible use of that marketing schema. When the numbers are that low, you don't use "over" because it sounds lame. Or it could be "over a dozen", which keeps it vague enough that it sounds better. Reply
Samus - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkI wasn't impressed with Physx in UT3 or Mirrors Edge. It made for some occasional eye candy in Mirrors Edge when glass was shattering and the flags were getting torn up, but the game also crashed on occasion with Physx turned on, and was completely stable with it disabled.
I haven't noticed that behavior in UT3, but in UT3 you can't even tell the difference with it enabled.
It's pretty cool, but hell, the Source engine already has an amazing, low CPU overhead Physics engine, it seems just unneccessary to dedicate GPU power to such a task when everything has a dual core 2+GHz cpu these days.
CUDA is promissing, I just wish they'd actually do something cool with it like make a torrent client or a video transcoder (that works) Reply
swaaye - Friday, August 21, 2009 - linkSource wasn't the first physics implementation in a game engine. It was just the most publicized. You can go back to Unreal and see some too. Or how about the terrible Jurassic Park: Trespasser? :)
Phsyx is the new Glide. Thankfully it should die with DX11 Compute Shaders. Reply
PseudoKnight - Thursday, August 20, 2009 - linkIt makes allowances for games that support PhysX that they haven't listed because they may not know about it. The alternative would be "14 or more" but they couldn't say "more than 14" without a possibility it'd be a lie. Reply


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Corn futures turned downward shortly after pit trading commenced Tuesday. Anticipation of a huge acreage estimate on the Thursday morning USDA Prospective Plantings report probably played a role in the drop, but traders also blamed a recent surge in producer sales and weaker basis readings as well. Technicians may have joined the bears after the nearby May contract dipped below chart support associated with its 200-day moving average (MA). May corn fell 6.5 cents to $7.2675/bushel late Tuesday morning, while December lost 2.75 cents to $5.6925.
A report from Oil World apparently boosted the soybean complex Tuesday morning. They indicated that recent rain in Brazil and cold in Argentina had reduced soybean production prospects in those countries, with the sum of those reductions reaching 2.2 million tonnes. Talk that soybean meal production will also decline during the coming months probably supported prices as well. May soybeans rallied 7.25 cents to $14.445/bushel just before lunchtime Tuesday, while May soyoil gained 0.35 cents to 50.79 cents/pound, while May meal edged $1.2 higher to $419.0/ton.
Anticipation of improving winter wheat prospects seemed to undercut nearby futures at the various exchanges Tuesday morning. Although some west Texas fields reportedly suffered frost damage over the weekend, the precipitation provided by the winter storm may have more than offset such losses. Meanwhile, relative firmness in the deferred contracts suggest traders are leaning toward reduced spring wheat plantings on the USDA Prospective Plantings report due out Thursday morning. May CBOT wheat futures skidded 3.25 cents to $7.24/bushel in late Tuesday morning trading, whereas May KCBT wheat rose 1.5 cents to $7.605, and May MGE futures gained 1.25 cents to $8.065.
Cattle futures traded firmly Monday night in seeming anticipation of improving packing industry demand for fed cattle later this week amid hopes for resurgent beef demand after Easter. However, those ideas were apparently dampened when pit trading began later in the morning. The sizeable wholesale losses posted late Monday afternoon seem less than conducive to bullish ideas at this point. April cattle dipped 0.32 cents at 126.12 cents/pound in late Tuesday-morning trading, while August dropped 0.42 cents to 122.72. Meanwhile, April feeder cattle futures lost 0.02 cents to 138.37 cents/pound, and August declined 0.75 cents to 147.42.
CME lean hog futures followed through upon their Monday rebound Tuesday morning. Hopes for a seasonal price advance across the hog and pork complex seem well founded, especially when one considers the historical tendencies for seasonally reduced production and rampant grilling season demand. Still, bulls have spring futures are already trading at significant premiums to cash values, so sustained gains are not at all guaranteed. April hogs surged 0.87 cents to 79.35 cents/pound around midsession Tuesday, while June gained 0.50 cents to 91.27.


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This article was published 1/3/2013 (1635 days ago), so information in it may no longer be current.
TOP of the Rock (Anchor, 326 pages, $19), by former NBC president of entertainment Warren Littlefield, is an entertaining oral history of NBC's 1990s-era Thursday-night lineup of must-see shows, which included Seinfeld, Cheers, E.R., Friends, The Cosby Show, Frasier, Mad About You and Law & Order.
Featuring commentary from many actors, writers, director and network execs, the book is full of memories, stories and some very surprising revelations. NBC can't seem to buy a hit these days, and the book has a sort of bittersweet feel to it (hey, guys, remember how great we once were?). If you're a fan of books about television, this one's a must-have.
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Nearly a century ago, J. Frank Norfleet, a Texas rancher, was swindled out of a lot of money -- not once, but twice. You might think he'd want to keep that to himself, but actually he went in another direction, setting out, armed with disguises and a gun, to get the goods on the con men and bring them to justice.
The Mark Inside (Vintage, 290 pages, $19), by Amy Reading, is the exciting story of Norfleet's quest for justice. But it's not just Norfleet's story; Reading, who lives in upstate New York, also offers a history of the confidence man (the term was coined in 1849, but the profession, if you want to call it that, dates back a lot further), and a close-up look at the mechanics of the so-called big con (which usually, like a movie production, involves many players, props, sets, and a script). Thrilling and suspenseful.
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If you're a science-fiction fan, and you haven't yet met Welsh author Alastair Reynolds, now's the perfect opportunity. In Blue Remembered Earth (Gollancz, 550 pages, $16), he tells the story of a brother and sister who, after the death of their grandmother, uncover a secret that threatens to tear the family and its financial empire -- which spans multiple worlds -- to shreds.
Reynolds is an elegant storyteller with a vivid imagination. He doesn't just tell a story, he builds an entire world, immersing us in a future that seems as real as the present.
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The Martin Beck series of crimes novels, written by the Swedish team of Maj Sjowall and Per Wahloo, is pretty well known. Much less well known are two novels Wahloo wrote on his own, featuring Chief Inspector Jensen, a police detective in an unnamed (but presumably European) city in an unspecified year in the near future. Thankfully, they've been reprinted, and they're well worth a look.
In 1964's Murder on the Thirty-First Floor (Vintage, 214 pages, $17), Jensen investigates threats made against a publishing conglomerate, and uncovers a dark secret. In 1968's The Steel Spring (Vintage, 200 pages, $17), having been away from his country for several months, Jensen discovers that some sort of plague has wiped out much of the population, and society is collapsing; but can he possibly find out what's happened, with nearly the entire law enforcement community in disarray.
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Dreadful Denizens of the Deep
- "...not one mention of underwater exploits in An Anthology of Eighteenth Century Charms, or in Dreadful Denizens of the Deep, or Powers You Never Knew You Had and What To Do With Them Now You've Wised Up..."
- —Harry finds nothing helpful regarding the Second Task while searching the books.[src]
Dreadful Denizens of the Deep is a book about magical animals that live in the water. It was one of the books that Harry, Ron, and Hermione examined while preparing for the second task of the Triwizard Tournament in 1995.
Harry examined this book in the Gryffindor common room the evening before the second task, but dismissed it as it didn't contain any information that could help a wizard survive underwater for an extended period of time.[1]
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Thread: Anyone Is Playing Wii U?
Anyone Is Playing Wii U?
Nintendo's Wii U is out. Naturally both MS and Sony will be compelled to launch their own next-gen platforms. I believe it would mark a new age for PC gaming too.
So, any one is playing Wii U? How does it perform? You recommend it to us or not?
Giant Bomb did a 7 hour live stream of a few games (few originals, few ports) and as well as some of the system functions. There's also a few quick looks of New Super Mario Bros. U, Nintendo Land and ZombiU on their main site. All worth watching.
Granted watching it only, anecdotally: a lot of ports seem sloppy with some poor frame rate issues, the WiiU OS is really slow, with some poor loading on games too. The online system is a bit sketchy, with some good ideas but powered by Nintendo's "What's the internet?" mantra - the biggest example is that you can create a Nintendo ID (like your 360 gamertag, or profile on PSN or Steam). Unlike those bracketed examples, the profile you create is limited to the WiiU you create it on. You can make another account on another WiiU, but it requires deleting your profile, as well as 'activity on the eShop'. You also cannot use the same name.
Watching that stream, I went in being perfectly happy with not really caring for the system, but then I went from that to "Wow...there's a lot of crappy stuff about the WiiU." Most of the games too come with a day 1 update, as well as the system itself which comes with something like a 1gb instant update. Oh, also, there's almost no reason to get the standard WiiU bundle if you're going to get one, just go straight for the 'deluxe' one or whatever it's called that has the Nintendo Land pack-in.
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Will probably get one when Dolphin supports it fully by 2015.Steam profile
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I have mine on pre-order for the Europe release that is happening on the 30th November, although it will be a Christmas present, so I won't be getting it until the 25th December. This will be the first console I have ever owned personally, as well as the first console owned by my immediate family since my brother's Master System (if you exclude an Amiga.)
Early reports have not been overly encouraging and I do have some doubts as to whether Nintendo have been successful in copying some of the elements that are standard with its rivals. There is still so much confusion over the power of the system too, with some developers saying it is a big step up, to others saying it struggles to match the current gen. I don't think we can really judge with the launch games, as some will have most likely been rushed out and developers do not know how best to utilise the hardware yet, but it is worrying to hear that there are games having some nasty frame rate dips. I'm also worried about reports regarding the speed of the OS, which is meant to be very sluggish at the moment. Hopefully this is just some early teething problems that can be resolved with software updates, but it does suggest that the system itself might just be slow.
On the positive side, the games themselves seem promising. Mario is being called the best 2D Mario game in a long time by pretty much all reviewers, whilst Nintendo Land is supposed to offer a great glimpse into the potential of the two screens, even if the quality of some of the mini-games isn't very consistent. ZombiU is getting mixed reviews, but the positive ones are painting it as an excellent survival horror game, which is likely turning off some people, but sounds perfect to me. Also, the many ports are meant to be just as good as all other versions. There is still a lack of a lot of the games getting reviews, but the ones we have are sounding very positive indeed.
So, still optimistic for when mine arrives and starting to get an idea what games to pick up with it. ZombiU is coming in the pack I ordered and I'll also be definitely getting New Super Mario Bros. U. I'm also likely to get Darksiders 2 and BLOPS2. Other potentials are Ninja Gaiden 3 (meant to be significantly better then other versions, but still mixed reviews,) Scribblenaughts Unlimited, Tekkan Tag Tournament 2 and possibly FIFA 2013 (although this meant to be closer to 2012 then the other console versions, so might wait for next year's.) There is definitely no shortage of stuff there.
And seeing most of the launch day releases are pretty bad with a few exceptions like Mario Brothers and Zombie U I think it's safe to wait a couple of years before buying one.
What I've seen so far is that the screenmote ( or whatever it's called) is breaking game experiences because you have to keep looking up and down and taking you from the action happening on screen. It's shoehorned in and comes over as a tech demo like the Kinect.
The screenmote aside, some ports are just plain wrecked, like Epic Micky and Batman Arkham City, their framerate is unacceptable.
Yeah, it was a late finish! I'd disagree with Mario too; I thought it looked stale and mediocre. I mean for god's sake, they only unlock manual saving once you've beaten the game! Nintendo really need to catch up.
Didn't say it was great though haha, just that it's not crap and can be fun with a bunch of friends from time to time.
Actually I am so excited about how the gamepad with screen works. Imagine when you play STALKER, you can look down at your gamepad to see your PDA without the whole main screen being replaced by PDA screen.
Platform launch games always dont look great. Maybe we need to give it some time to see how it works out.
Yeah, it's kind of experimental at this point, if handled well it can be something great.
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There really are a lot of possibilities for the pad, particularly for local multiplayer (never understood this generations instance on prioritising online.). Developers just need to use their imagination.
With both MS and Sony doing the "We can do this too!" thing regarding the second screen, with Smart Glass and Vita respectively. I wouldn't be at all surprised if something like that comes as standard with both their next gen machines. Given the huge rise in the popularity of tablets, it seems like the logical way to go.
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I wasn't going to get a Wii U but then (wow!) my brother surprised me for my birthday. It is very much like a gigantic Nintendo DS in your family room. That is a good thing I guess? But it's awkward. I'm enjoying New Super Mario Brothers Wii U Turbo Ultra II Etc.
The controller itself is very cool. I know this won't matter to everyone, but I'm really loving the d-pad. It's so bad on Xbox 360, but Nintendo knows how to make them. So I can't wait to play retro games on it!
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Well, I've had my Wii U for a week now and got some reasonable amount of playtime out of it. Not having owned a games console, it is not simple to make any direct comparisons, but I can certainly say, having used my brother's 360 a bit, it seems much more geared towards playing games. This is a good thing in my eyes. Some may complain about the lack of media centre fluff (you can't even play DVDs on it,) but I couldn't care less about that. The way games are advertised also seems a lot less glaring then the 360's approach, which shoves every bit of DLC and and new game down your throat. Here you are instead presented with an icon surrounded by a few Miis who are playing that particular game. Ever so often a speech bubble with something they have posted on the Game's Miiverse will appear. It is a nice touch that feels like community building, rather then the advertising it really is.
The store seems okay, if nothing spectacular. But it is nicely tucked away, so easily ignored if you are not interested in buying digitally. As is to be expected, pricing is awful and I haven't bought anything yet as a result. There are a few indie and e-shop only games that are reasonably priced, but I have been spoiled by Steam and can't see myself buying anything from there unless prices drop.
Outside of that there isn't too much to report on the non-game software side of things. There is Netflix (don't have an account,) and LoveFilm (only trailers were working when I tried.) There is also TVii, but that is not out in the UK yet.
I've not seen too much of the potential of the game pad with the games I have, excluding the excellent ZombiU, but there are a few nice touches in the others. Surprisingly, it is New Super Mario Bros. U that is the least interesting. The only thing really of note is the ability to play solely on the pad. However, the assumption is that if you are playing with the pad you are not using the TV. This means there is no way to turn off the pad's screen, unless you use a wiimote. I personally don't find the wiimote particularly comfortable when used sideways and the pro pad is not useable in this game, for some reason. Not major, but not being able to have the screen off whilst using the gamepad doesn't help the already short battery life.
Playing in multiplayer allows the game pad to be used by someone to place blocks in the world. It is an okay idea, but doesn't get used properly from what I have seen. As levels are designed to be played without this assistance, it just becomes a bit dull for the player using the pad. Strangely, it is the non-Nintendo made platformer, Rayman Legends, that looks more promising in regards to using the game pad features, but there is still a little wait for that. Still, NSMBU is a great game in its own rights.
I also have CoD:BLOPS 2, which uses the second screen in place of split screen. This works quite nicely, although it is probably only really necessary when playing with more than 2 people.
The real star is ZombiU though. Slowly moving through the bowels of the Tower of London, with the Alien esque beeping of the scanner in your hand. When you suddenly hear the sound of the scanner picking up movement and you start having to glance down at the pad as more and more blips appear on the map and they edge ever closer, is a truly unique experience. I'm certain the game would not be anywhere near as intense without the need to balance the two screens, turning what could be a weakness into a great positive. Having (some) of your inventory right there instead of hidden in a menu, is also a simple, but effective feature. Hopefully we could see people utilising this to move away from the increasingly boring two weapon limit of many FPS games.
ZombiU is also helped by just being a really great game. It is true survival, like I would not expect from a console game, let alone a launch title console game. Ammo is very scarce and you have to really think about when to use your weapons or when to go to the trusty cricket bat. The levels can be a little narrow, which means there are usually not many options for you to take, but the claustrophobia does work in its favour too.
So, all in all, I am very happy with my purchase. Mario may not be unique, but still does what it knows to do very well. ZombiU shows just how much potential there really is in the system though and I can't wait to see some more of the unannounced games.


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Corn Estimated Fund Position
Trends – July Contract
Short Term: Up Net Long Futures and Options: 181591
Long Term: Up Change: +5000
Overnight Trade: N +4 @7:30 AM
Corn was higher overnight and the July contract reached the highest level since the 9th of April. Planting delays and the strength in the wheat are two of the main supporting factors. This afternoon's planting progress figure will be very important since some traders aren't looking for much progress and some are looking for a number near average. Somebody is going to be disappointed. The corn market has run out of steam at these levels before, but a positive close in the July contract, would make it the best close since September, so the charts look pretty bullish right now.
Wheat Estimated Fund Position
Trends – July Contract
Short Term: Up Net Long Futures and Options: -628
Long Term:Up Change: +4000
Overnight Trade: Chicago: N +4 KC: N +7 @7:30 AM
Wheat was higher overnight thanks to the lack of rain in most of the HRW Belt. When the crop tour gets started tomorrow, they will probably see some mud near Manhattan, but as one would expect, it will get much drier as they head west. The July KW has taken out the $7.80 resistance making the $7.95 level the next upside target. The charts suggest we should start thinking about a move to $8.66. The fact that there is very little rain in the forecast suggests we will see lower crop condition ratings, at least for the HRW, for at least two more weeks, which will keep the market supported.
Soybeans Estimated Fund Position
Trends – July Contract
Short Term: Up Net Long Futures and Options: 125694
Long Term:Up Change: +9000
Overnight Trade: N +16 @7:30 AM
Soybeans were very strong overnight because we still don't have the old crop supply and demand situation figured out. There has been talk about more imports from Brazil, but we have to have more to make the numbers work out. The bears suggest that USDA has underestimated production and use the basis levels in the Corn Belt as evidence, but they seem to have forgotten that the cash market often doesn't lead the market. I don't think that the soybeans would be over $15.00 if they were easy to find.
Live Cattle
Short Term: Up
Long Term: Up
Opening Calls: 20-50 Higher
Live cattle futures closed with strong gains on Friday, ahead of the on feed report and significant cash trade. Cash trade came in steady to a Dollar lower, while a lower than expected placement figure should support the early third quarter time frame. Cutouts declined a bit on Friday and will be monitored close as we get under way this week. Outside market influences look supportive, with the Dollar lower and equities firmer. The expiring
April contract continues to carry more than 5,000 contracts into the last three trading days. Some volatility is likely.
Feeder Cattle
Short Term: Up
Long Term: Up
Opening Call: 20-50 Higher
Feeder cattle futures settled higher on Friday, with 3rd and 4th quarter contracts sharply higher. The 95 percent placement number should continue to support an already firm cash market. The cash index was up .12 on Friday and is within 1.30 of all-time highs after the recent decline. For the week May feeders were up 1.80 and are expected to open firmer this morning. Export demand for beef could be supported in the US if any countries back away from Brazil due to recent BSE issues.


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Held on September 7, 2011 at the Arizona Biltmore, The 2011 Most Admired Companies Awards recognized 60 outstanding, local companies for their contributions and impact they've brought to the state. The 2011 Arizona MAC Awards, hosted by Arizona Business Magazine and BestCompaniesAZ, had a turnout of nearly 600 guests, including the winners of the prestigious award based on employee, customer and community opinions and focuses on companies with more than 25 employees.
Christopher Sign, Emmy award winning journalist from ABC 15, emceed the event, engaging the audience with his many "facts of the night." Guest speakers included Time Bricker, president and CEO of Mercy Gilbert Medical Center (a member of Catholic Healthcare West); Joe Clees, shareholder at Ogletree Deakins' Phoenix office; Tammy Weinbaum, Senior Vice President and General Manager at American Express; and Lee Vikre, senior vice president of organizational development and consulting at BestCompaniesAZ.
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HOUSTON - Incoming Harris County District Attorney Mike Anderson said Thursday that he plans to prosecute a capital murder case himself.
Harlem Howard Lewis, 21, has been charged with capital murder of a police officer and murder.
Investigators said Bellaire police Cpl. Jimmie Norman, 53, was chasing Lewis when they drove into the parking lot of a Maaco body shop at 5611 Bellaire Blvd. at Alder at 8:55 a.m. Monday. Witnesses said Lewis got out of his vehicle and began firing shots.
Selvin Romero said Lewis side-swiped his pickup truck. He said he followed Lewis into the driveway of the body shop.
He said he saw Norman, a 24-year-veteran of the force, approach Lewis' car in an effort to get him to surrender. But within seconds, police said the Lewis pulled a gun and opened fire on Norman.
The owner of the body shop, Terry Taylor, who loved ones said walked out of his shop to help the officer, was fatally shot in the head by Lewis at close range. Police said he died instantly.
Family members said Taylor was a retired army vet, a married father and a new grandfather.
Norman, a married father of two, was taken to Ben Taub Hospital, where he died a short time later. He did not exchange gunfire with the suspect, HPD said.
"The saddest thing is that (Officer Norman) didn't even get an opportunity to pull his weapon and defend himself. That's how fast it all happened," said John Cannon with the Houston Police Department.
Houston police said Lewis fired at responding Bellaire police officers, and those officers returned fire. Lewis was wounded and ran off, but was found behind a nearby business. Investigators said a gun was recovered from the scene.
"He pretty much at close-bank range murdered a Bellaire police officer and murdered an innocent bystander who emerged from the shop," Cannon said.
The case is death-penalty eligible.
"We'll certainly look at the death penalty, but I think it's irresponsible to say what we're going to do," Anderson said. "I'm not even the district attorney yet."
Anderson, who takes the oath of office on Jan. 1, said he will consider upgrading the murder charge for Taylor's death to capital murder.
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Norman was the first Bellaire police officer to be killed in the line of duty. He was promoted to sergeant after his death. He qualified for the promotion during a competitive process held in the fall.
Lewis is scheduled to appear in court on Jan. 2, if he's out of the hospital by then.
"I'm not sure of his medical condition, but, quite frankly, I'm more concerned about the trial," Anderson said.
Bellaire police said they were happy that Anderson will take the reigns in court.
"He's always been a supporter of the police department of Bellaire," Assistant Chief Michal Leal said. "We feel honored that he has decided to take on this case himself."
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Sgt. Jimmie Norman's family has made arrangements for the slain officer's funeral.
A visitation will be held from 3 to 7 p.m. Friday at Bellaire Central Baptist Church, 7115 Mapleridge St.
Norman's funeral will be held at Houston's First Baptist Church, 7401 Katy Freeway, at 2 p.m. on Saturday.
Taylor's visitation will be held from 5 to 8 p.m. Friday at Klein Funeral Home, Cy-Fair Northwest. His funeral will be held there at 2 p.m. Saturday.
Taylor's internment with military honors at the Houston National Cemetery will take place on an undisclosed date.
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WITH pressure increasing on A&E departments across the country, people in Redditch and Bromsgrove are being asked to take full advantage of the county's Minor Injury Unit in Bromsgrove.
The unit, which is based at the Princess of Wales Community Hospital, treats everything from cuts, grazes, and wounds, to sprains, strains, minor burns and broken bones, and waiting times are less than 20 minutes on average.
The shorter waiting time means that even for patients who have to travel from Redditch, they would still be treated and home sooner than if they went to the A&E department at the Alexandra Hospital.
Increased use of the unit would also free up capacity at A&E, allowing the staff there to deal more efficiently with emergency care and treatment.
Matt Stringer, Worcestershire Health and Care NHS Trust's community care lead, said: "We know that there are a significant number of people who go to A&E with a minor injury which can be treated much quicker at one of the Minor Injury Units. On average people wait around 20 minutes to be seen at an MIU and if more people with minor injuries use this service it would free up capacity at A&E so our colleagues there can support those people who do need emergency care. If you are unsure whether your injury can be treated at an MIU then you can call in advance and a member of staff will be able to advise."
The Bromsgrove unit is open from 8am to 8pm Monday to Friday, and from noon to 8pm on Saturday and Sunday. X-ray is only available Monday to Friday 9am - 5pm. Anyone wanting to check whether they could be treated at the Bromsgrove MIU can call 01527 488058 for further information.


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A CONCERT band is uncovering its roots as part of a town's wartime past.
East Lancashire Concert band has been uncovering articles and photographs of its historical beginnings as 'Accrington Old Band', which played as the Accrington Pals battalion marched for the first time.
The band has also uncovered some original sheet music which dates from 1914 with a song entitled The Accrington Pals March.
Hyndburn Council's leader Miles Parkinson described the discoveries as 'extremely exciting' additions for upcoming Accrington Pals centenary celebrations.
Band member Ian McGuiness said his research uncovered the sheet music, written by Ralph Sanders.
Old newspaper articles Ian has researched also tell of the Accrington Old Band playing 'lively tunes' as the Pals Battalion marches out, such as It's A Long Way To Tipperary.
Ian said: "We are uncovering more and more about the part the band played in those dramatic days.
"When I joined the band, I took it upon myself to look into the band's formation and beginnings and I couldn't believe it had such a rich history.
"I've also been in touch with the local authority and told them that anything we can do to commemorate the Pals' centenary we will absolutely help out and support that.
"What I have discovered is that the band has always been military in style, with the band dressed as soldiers even though civilians.
"We have discovered pictures, and newspaper articles from 1914 and even sheet music called the Accrington Pals March. It's very jolly and upbeat to keep up the morale and everyone's spirits.
"It doesn't imply any of the tragedy that was about to happen when the Pals left for the Great War."
Council leader Miles Parkinson said the council was working closely with the band to include it in plans for centenary celebrations throughout 2014-2016.
He said: "The links being uncovered with the past due to the band's research is extremely exciting indeed. I feel that East Lancashire Concert Band is going to be very important to the Pals centenary celebrations."


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No. 15 Florida volleyball named 14th seed for NCAA's
Published: Sunday, November 25, 2012 at 7:05 p.m.
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The No. 15 Florida volleyball team learned its postseason fate on Sunday evening, as the Gators are among the NCAA Tournament field of 64 for the 22nd consecutive season and the 23rd time in program history.
The Gators, who earned the tournament's 14th seed, begin their title quest on Friday by playing host to Conference USA champion Tulsa at 7:30 p.m.
This will be the first-ever meeting between Tulsa and Florida.
"There wasn't as much drama in this room as perhaps some other places around the country since we won the league. There are a lot of champions playing including three teams that are coming here this weekend," Florida head coach Mary Wise said. "The anticipation was would we get to host, and with basketball playing on Thursday night there was some question on whether we would get to."
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Prada Spring 2014 Hair and Makeup | Runway Pictures
Are Bleached Brows Back? Prada Thinks So
We're accustomed to dramatic beauty looks on the Prada catwalk, and this year the models at Prada were an army of color that was akin to fashion-forward war paint. Brows were blotted out to make room for the colorful eye makeup. The troupe wore blue-gray and orange shadow that was smudged far across lids.
And for an even more dramatic feat, colorist Josh Wood was backstage creating custom colors for every single model in the show. "It's the first time it has ever been done," he told Vogue UK. "There were no hair pieces; every single girl had her hair colored specially for the show." The freshly colored hair was styled straight with a dramatic swooped bang, and some models wore feathered headwear and accessories. The nails were nice and neat, so there was nothing to clash with the beautiful colors.