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ASUS PQ321Q First Lookby Chris Heinonen on 7/13/2013 2:38 PM EST
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dbcoopernz - Saturday, July 13, 2013 - linkWhy do you calibrate desktop monitors to 200 cd/m^2, and not the ISO level of 120 cd/m^2? This is the only site that does so, AFAIK. Reply
cheinonen - Saturday, July 13, 2013 - linkThere are many different ISO standards, all of which have different values and mostly are targeting print production work. We account for that using the sRGB standard, which is 80 cd/m2 and requires virtually no ambient light. 200 cd/m2 is a level that more people are likely to use where they have ambient light as almost all the ISO standard are based on virtually no ambient light at all. Reply
brucek2 - Saturday, July 13, 2013 - linkThis falls somewhere between graphics cards and monitors so not sure how much of your focus it can be, but -- what is a practical approach to gaming at this resolution? One approach is obviously the unlimited budget, i.e. 3x Titan or similar. You could argue that since the monitor costs that much, the cards should have a similar budget. But to my personal sensibility the cards are much more disposable than a (good) monitor should be; and thus I'd be much more willing to spend $3K on a monitor than on graphics cards. But that leaves the question of, what do you do in the meantime until the graphics cards catch up? Is there an acceptable approach using say a single 780 or dual 770 or their ATI equivalents that along with perhaps low/no AA and less extreme game settings especially where they least matter that still looks good? Reply
Phuncz - Sunday, July 14, 2013 - linkI hope the full review will indeed do more research into a 4K monitor as a viable power-user monitor, with photo editing, gaming and multitasking as a user's point of view. While it might be the only way to truely enjoy 4K gaming, three Titans or GTX 780's seems a little overboard as bruce2k says, a monitor seems way more justified to spend that amount of money on than a bunch of GPU's.
So in that aspect, I'd like to know from the full review if FSAA is actually needed or perceptible at 4K and how the experience is on this screen with 1920x1080 FSAA.
Also the benefit of having a 2GB card, a 3/4GB card and a 6GB card is something worth exploring in the 4K realm.
I'd like to know how other OS'es handle 4K, like MacOS X 10.8 and Mavericks Beta, even Ubuntu should get a chance. Reply
DanNeely - Sunday, July 14, 2013 - linkAt only 140DPI you're probably still going to want some level of AA. I have a 2560x1600 screen and sit at the same distance from it as I did with my older, smaller, screens. The big one just fills more of my FoV.
On a notional 22" screen quadHD gives 200DPI; AA won't have much to offer here. An equally notional 14.7"/300 DPI laptop screen should be able to go completely AA free. Reply
NLPsajeeth - Saturday, July 13, 2013 - link"Using an NVIDIA GTX 660 Ti card, with the most recent drivers, you can enable MST mode on the ASUS to provide a full 3840x2160 signal at 60p over a single DisplayPort cable."
That statement is incorrect. It should read as "you can enable MST mode on the ASUS to provide a two 1920x2160 signals at 60p over a single DisplayPort cable which are combined into one single seamless 3840x2160 picture on the display."
This is a very important distinction. Since the display looks like two displays to the GPU, you cannot use DirectX or OpenGL software properly when using an nVidia GPU with currently available drivers. This is because nVidia Surround only works in 3x1 configurations. ASUS has stated that nVidia will be releasing an updated driver when this monitor ships (July 16) that will support 2x1 surround. So hopefully this will all be resolved soon.
Maybe nVidia will be nice and enable, 4x1, 2x2, 5x1, 6x1, 3x2 mosaic configurations on GeForce cards as well. The hardware is certainly capable but nVidia has locked down the driver preventing this. One can dream... Reply
Ryan Smith - Sunday, July 14, 2013 - link"ASUS has stated that nVidia will be releasing an updated driver when this monitor ships (July 16) that will support 2x1 surround."
These drivers have already been released on Windows Update for Windows 8.1, which is what we're using here. Reply
NLPsajeeth - Sunday, July 14, 2013 - linkGlad to hear it.
However, the second image in your article really doesn't bode well for general display 2x1 Surround support. NVIDIA may be using some driver specific hacks for these kinds of monitors which would really be disappointing.
Is it possible for you guys to test DirectX/OpenGL support on the PQ321Q when using 2 HDMI cables rather than a single DP cable. I'm curious to see if the driver still shows it as one display or if it shows up as two displays or as a unified display. Reply
JDG1980 - Saturday, July 13, 2013 - linkOn a monitor this expensive, it's disappointing that there isn't perfect color calibration out of the box. If they get 4K monitors under $1000 then I understand compromises may need to be made, but there shouldn't be any compromises at the $3500 price point. Reply
coolhardware - Saturday, July 13, 2013 - linkThe PQ321Q slots in nicely at 2nd place on the high-res (desktop LCD) leaderboard: http://pixensity.com/list/desktop/
Any word on when Chrome will update their Windows 8.1 HighDPI support? And were you able to try this monitor with a Mac to see if Chrome already plays nicely there? Thanks! Reply
SodaAnt - Saturday, July 13, 2013 - linkWhat's really sad is when you realize that the top leader has been there for 12 years, is smaller than this display, and still has a higher resolution. Reply
coolhardware - Saturday, July 13, 2013 - linkTrue dat SodaAnt, they don't call the leader 'Big Bertha' for nothing! ;-)
What really blows my mind is that the SGI1600SW (from 1998!) ranks at #4 (right ahead of Apple's highest-res desktop display) Reply
SodaAnt - Saturday, July 13, 2013 - linkI wouldn't count that though, seeing as a bog standard 1080P 17.3" laptop screen is better, and those are manufactured en masse. Reply
Veedrac - Saturday, July 13, 2013 - linkSupposedly Chrome already has it in the dev versions; I'm not sure as I don't use Windows, but I suggest at least testing for it. Reply
dbcoopernz - Monday, July 15, 2013 - linkChrome devs are currently working on adding support to DirectWrite/D2D to Skia for Windows. This will allow nice text scaling.
https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?i... Reply
yhselp - Saturday, July 13, 2013 - linkA few humble requests:
- Could you please test responsiveness objectively; with PixPerAn's chase test for example. I believe it's a very useful and representative test for response time even by itself (without samples from other monitors to compare to).
- Backlight bleeding and panel uniformity
- Input lag
- 1080p scaling or if you could somehow measure how well (or not) this model handles 1080p content and whether there's a benefit of running 1080p on 4K. This mostly applies for films and plugging in a console.
I realize some of those might already be planning, but I thought I'd mention them anyway. Thanks for considering. Reply
cheinonen - Saturday, July 13, 2013 - link1080p scaling will likely be measured using the 1080 scaling pattern on the new Spears and Munsel Blu-ray disc. I'll compare native scaling to the Oppo players I have on hand, and the LG BP730 I have here for review as well.
Input lag I'll test as best I can, with a possible new option as well, but since the display may not support DirectX correctly at 2160p60 before I try to test, I'm not certain how accurate I can get. I'll do some PixPerAn chase images as well. Reply
yhselp - Saturday, July 13, 2013 - linkThank you for responding and willing to take the time for these tests, I appreciate it; can't wait for the full review. Reply
NLPsajeeth - Saturday, July 13, 2013 - linkWhile we await Chris's review, you can watch a video of ASUS PQ321Q being driven by two ASUS GTX 780 DirectCU II in 2-way SLI over single DisplayPort cable using unreleased NVIDIA Drivers where 2x Surround is working:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSHrcAWS2C8 Reply
Ann Idiot - Saturday, July 13, 2013 - linkA $3500 monitor, not pre-calibrated from the factory. :crazyface: Reply
cheinonen - Sunday, July 14, 2013 - linkRelative to most, it's pre-calibrated. Gamut volume is a different matter, which could be backlight or panel related. It's not perfect, but the number of panels that have arrived more accurate out-of-the-box than this can likely be counted on one hand. Reply
swmike - Sunday, July 14, 2013 - linkI would be very interested in hearing how this monitor would work with different computer hardware, such as different GFX solutions from AMD, Nvidia cards and Intel under different versions of Windows. Preferably also how it works with Macbooks of different kinds, both on OSX 10.8 and 10.9. Reply
MrSpadge - Sunday, July 14, 2013 - linkThat low amount of brightness steps: actually I think 31 steps are fine. Think of it.. if 100 steps are provided, how much of a difference do you actualy percieve switching just 1 step? Would it matter at any point if the display was set to 52 or 51? I think with 31 steps they're making good use of all of them.
BTW: I'd never buy a monitor without ambient light sensor again. Haven't felt the need to adjust brightness at all since I bought mine! Reply
DanNeely - Sunday, July 14, 2013 - linkI've never felt the need to adjust the brightness of anything except a laptop (down when I'm pushing the battery) past initial setup. I briefly had it enabled on one of my desktop monitors; but having brightness levels change every few minutes when I moved and varied the amount of shadow I was casting on the sensor was utterly obnoxious and had it disabled within an hour or two. Reply
Sancus - Monday, July 15, 2013 - linkShouldn't this article be tagged "Displays"? That appears to be the main monitors/lcds/whatever tag that's used in the menu on the front page of the site, and since it isn't tagged, this article doesn't appear when you click on PC Components -> Displays. That's pretty bad since the new mobile layout does not show pipeline stories outside of the tag views. Reply
Hung_Low - Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - linkI'm thinking of buying a Seiki 39" 4K monitor after it gets HDMI 2.0 or displayport. I heard the panel quality is actually quite decent, but it performs poorly due to Seiki's lack of effort in tuning it before shipping them out. Is it necessary to buy a calibrating instrument? I'm just an average user that plays a bit of games and watches a lot of HD movies and UHD clips. If I borrow one from a friend and calibrate it once, how long could it last before I absolutely have to calibrate it again? Reply
ufranco - Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - linkHow is the screen quality when the resolution is turned down to say 1920*1080, I imagine if you have a mid-range gpu gaming at native spec will not be possible. Also I suppose this also tests Window's new dpi scaling mechanism. Reply
yhselp - Thursday, July 18, 2013 - linkSince NVIDIA's latest beta drivers now support 2 display Surround mode or 2 device 'mosaic' mode or 'tiled' 4K displays (call it whatever), I thought I'd ask for some data related to 3840x2160@60Hz, if time permits. Reply


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The Wisdom of Crowds: Why the Many Are Smarter Than the Few and How Collective Wisdom Shapes Business, Economies, Societies and Nations, first published in 2004, is a book written by James Surowiecki about the aggregation of information in groups, resulting in decisions that, he argues, are often better than could have been made by any single member of the group. The book presents numerous case studies and anecdotes to illustrate its argument, and touches on several fields, primarily economics and psychology.
The opening anecdote relates Francis Galton's surprise that the crowd at a county fair accurately guessed the butchered or the "slaughtered and dressed" weight of an ox when their individual guesses were averaged (the average was closer to the ox's true butchered weight than the estimates of most crowd members, and also closer than any of the separate estimates made by cattle experts).
The book relates to diverse collections of independently-deciding individuals, rather than crowd psychology as traditionally understood. There are parallels with statistical sampling theory—a diverse collection of independently-deciding individuals is likely to be more representative of the universe of possible outcomes, thereby producing a better prediction.
Its title is an allusion to Charles Mackay's Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, published in 1841.
Types of crowd wisdom Edit
Surowiecki breaks down the advantages he sees in disorganized decisions into three main types, which he classifies as:
- Cognition
- Market judgment, which he argues can be much faster, more reliable, and less subject to political forces than the deliberations of experts, or expert committees
- Coordination
- Coordination of behavior includes optimizing the utilization of a popular bar and not colliding in moving traffic flows. The book is replete with examples from experimental economics, but this section relies more on naturally occurring experiments such as pedestrians optimizing the pavement flow, or the extent of crowding in popular restaurants. He examines how common understanding within a culture allows remarkably accurate judgments about specific reactions of other members of the culture.
- Cooperation
- How groups of people can form networks of trust without a central system controlling their behavior or directly enforcing their compliance. This section is especially pro-free market.
Four elements required to form a wise crowd Edit
Not all crowds (groups) are wise. Consider, for example, mobs or crazed investors in a stock market bubble. Refer to Failures of crowd intelligence (below) for more examples of unwise crowds. According to Surowiecki, these key criteria separate wise crowds from irrational ones:
- Diversity of opinion
- Each person should have private information even if it's just an eccentric interpretation of the known facts.
- Independence
- People's opinions aren't determined by the opinions of those around them.
- Decentralization
- People are able to specialize and draw on local knowledge.
- Aggregation
- Some mechanism exists for turning private judgments into a collective decision.
Failures of crowd intelligence Edit
Surowiecki studies situations (such as rational bubbles) in which the crowd produces very bad judgment, and argues that in these types of situations their cognition or cooperation failed because (in one way or another) the members of the crowd were too conscious of the opinions of others and began to emulate each other and conform rather than think differently. Although he gives experimental details of crowds collectively swayed by a persuasive speaker, he says that the main reason that groups of people intellectually conform is that the system for making decisions has a systematic flaw.
Surowiecki asserts that what happens when the decision making environment is not set up to accept the crowd, is that the benefits of individual judgments and private information are lost, and that the crowd can only do as well as its smartest member, rather than perform better (as he shows is otherwise possible). Detailed case histories of such failures include:
- Too homogenous
- Surowiecki stresses the need for diversity within a crowd to ensure enough variance in approach, thought process, and private information.
- Too centralized
- The Columbia shuttle disaster, which he blames on a hierarchical NASA management bureaucracy that was totally closed to the wisdom of low-level engineers.
- Too divided
- The U.S. Intelligence community failed to prevent the September 11, 2001 attacks partly because information held by one subdivision was not accessible by another. Surowiecki's argument is that crowds (of intelligence analysts in this case) work best when they choose for themselves what to work on and what information they need. (He cites the SARS-virus isolation as an example in which the free flow of data enabled laboratories around the world to coordinate research without a central point of control.)
- The Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the CIA have created a Wikipedia style information sharing network called Intellipedia that will help the free flow of information to prevent such failures again.
- Too imitative
- Where choices are visible and made in sequence, an "information cascade" can form in which only the first few decision makers gain anything by contemplating the choices available: once this has happened it is more efficient for everyone else to simply copy those around them.
- Too emotional
- Emotional factors, such as a feeling of belonging, can lead to peer pressure, herd instinct, and in extreme cases collective hysteria.
Is it possible to be too connected? Edit
Surowiecki spoke on Independent Individuals and Wise Crowds, or Is It Possible to Be Too Connected?.
- The question for all of us is, how can you have interaction without information cascades, without losing the independence that's such a key factor in group intelligence?
He recommends:
- Keep your ties loose
- Keep yourself exposed to as many diverse sources of information as possible
- Make groups that range across hierarchies
Tim O'Reilly[1] and others also discuss the success of Google, wikis, blogging and Web 2.0 in the context of the wisdom of crowds.
Perspective and wise questions Edit
Surowiecki discusses the success of prediction markets. Similar to Delphi methods but unlike opinion polls, prediction (information) markets ask questions like "Who do you think will win the election?" and predict outcomes rather well. Interestingly, if the question is formed "Who will you vote for?" the question is not as predictive. When people have an opportunity to express an opinion regarding the outcome rather than report their choice, the aggregate opinion (or collective wisdom) tends to be correct.
Applications Edit
Surowiecki is a very strong advocate of the benefits of decision markets, and regrets the failure of DARPA's controversial Policy Analysis Market to get off the ground. He points to the success of public and internal corporate markets as evidence that a collection of individuals with varying points of view but the same motivation (to make a good guess) can produce an accurate aggregate prediction. According to Surowiecki, the aggregate predictions have been shown to be more reliable than the output of any think tank. He advocates extensions of the existing futures markets even into areas such as terrorist activity, and prediction markets within companies.
To illustrate its thesis, he says that his publisher is able to publish a more compelling output by relying on individual authors under one-off contracts bringing book ideas to them. In this way they are able to tap into the wisdom of a much larger crowd than would be possible with an in-house writing team.
Will Hutton has argued that Surowiecki's analysis applies to value judgments as well as factual issues, with crowd decisions that "emerge of our own aggregated free will [being] astonishingly... decent". He concludes that "There's no better case for pluralism, diversity and democracy, along with a genuinely independent press." [2].
Applications of the wisdom of crowds effect currently exist in three general categories: Prediction markets, Delphi methods, and extensions of the traditional opinion poll. The most common application is the prediction market, a speculative or betting market created to make verifiable predictions. Assets are cash values tied to specific outcomes (e.g., Candidate X will win the election) or parameter (e.g., Next quarter's revenue). The current market prices are interpreted as predictions of the probability of the event or the expected value of the parameter. NewsFutures is an international prediction market that generates consensus probabilities for news events. Consensus View predicts the performance of financial markets, including stocks, futures and foreign exchange. InnovateUs is an enterprise class idea marketplace where employee consensus predicts market potential for new ideas.
Delphi methods are information aggregation tools that include Hutton's notion of judgments as well as verifiable outcomes. Dialogr is a Delphi method that elicits, judges, and aggregates the collective value of ideas.Dotmocracy is an offline facilitation method that allows participants to generate ideas and recognice levels of collective agreement.
Opinion polls are surveys of opinion using sampling; are usually designed to represent the opinions of a population by asking a small number of people questions and then extrapolating the answers to the larger group. The opinion poll Opinion Republic is an experiment to capture public opinion and then converge on the most broadly accepted opinions.
Wikipedia itself is an example of the wisdom of crowds, and of its limits: a good source of information, if somewhat unreliable.[3]
See alsoEdit
- The "Ask the Audience" option in the television show Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?
- Prediction markets
- Delphi methods
- Wideband delphi
- Crowd psychology
- Policy Analysis Market supported by the author of The Wisdom of Crowds
- Scenario Voting - a Microsoft application of The Wisdom of Crowds
- Groupthink
- Iowa Electronic Markets
- Information Routing Group
References and further readingEdit
- Surowiecki, James (2004). The Wisdom of Crowds: Why the Many Are Smarter Than the Few and How Collective Wisdom Shapes Business, Economies, Societies and Nations Little, Brown ISBN 0-316-86173-1
- Lee, Gerald Stanley (1913). Crowds. A moving-picture of democracy. Doubleday, Page & Company. Available from Project Gutenberg at [4], retrieved May 2005.
- Le Bon, Gustave. (1895), The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind. Available from Project Gutenberg at [5].
- Gabriel Tarde
- Steven Johnson, Emergence: the connected lives of ants, brains, cities and software (2002) Scribner, ISBN 0-684-86876-8
- Cass R. Sunstein, Infotopia: How Many Minds Produce Knowledge (2006) Oxford University Press, ISBN 0195189280
External linksEdit
- James Surowiecki - Independent Individuals and Wise Crowds Audio interview from IT Conversations
- James Surowiecki 28 Meg MP3 File Audio presentation at SXSW Conference 2006
- Wired Magazine Look Who's Crowdsourcing¨
- C/Net NewsTech lessons learned from the wisdom of crowds¨
- Openeur - Scientific Blog about Open Innovation & Entrepreneurship
- [6] Interview with James Surowiecki and Joyce Berg of the Iowa Electronic Markets
- CrowdRules Do-it-yourself site that allows creation of challenges that conform to all elements suggested by Surowiecki
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not sure if this will work,but i took a picture today that i would like to share...
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Just tried your link and it is not working for me here.
oh darn,it a picture of me and georges bands holding hands...my ribbon tattoo made the pic to...love and hugs lynn
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going to try now thank you
ok lets give it a shot...theres a couple pictures ,one is my son and his girlfriend dont know how that got in there....
Hi Lynn, it works to a point as your link take you to an album created by you. But, it also says that there are no photos in this album!
Keep giving it a shot!!!
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Cisco AutoQoS incorporates value-added intelligence in Cisco IOS Software and Catalyst OS Software to provision and manage large-scale QoS deployments. It delivers, in a highly consumable form, the knowledge that Cisco has acquired over years of best practice, and makes it available to organizations short on time, resources, or technically skilled staff. Cisco AutoQoS can reduce the deployment cost and time frame by as much as two-thirds, when compared to a manual approach.
The first phase of Cisco AutoQoS, which we are announcing today, focuses on the emerging challenge for customers who want IP telephony, but who lack expertise and/or staffing to plan and deploy IP QoS. Subsequent phases this year will expand Cisco AutoQoS capabilities to fine-tune Voice, Video, or Data, application auto-discovery, and auto-policy generation
A suite of selling tools is now available to help you understand this important new technology. These tools include a data sheet, white paper, and customer presentation. Also included is a high-impact video that illustrates the operation of this enhancement in an easy-to-follow series of illustrations and examples.


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Dudamel Conducts Stravinsky's Firebird
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Gustavo Dudamel, conductor
Debussy: La mer (c. 25 minutes) Program Notes
Stravinsky: The Firebird (c. 45 minutes) Stravinsky: The Firebird Program Notes
About This Performance
Color is content in Debussy's tone poem/symphony and Stravinsky's groundbreaking ballet. Not the only content, to be sure, but an important and distinctive element. Color was also a focus for Canada's Claude Vivier, whose own style synthesized many characteristics of Debussy's and Stravinsky's music.
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Gustavo Dudamels' sure-to-be vivid take on three masterpieces of orchestral color.
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Monitoring of mastitis rates and events is common on dairies given the prevalence of the disease, and having a plan for developing case definitions and protocols is critical. Greg Goodell, DVM, The Dairy Authority, LLC, Greeley, Colo., says mastitis is a good, albeit complicated, example of a disease that should be monitored.
"The veterinarian must combine the health of the cow, ability of the farm personnel to identify disease and the most prevalent presentation of the disease with goals of the dairy," Goodell says. As far as identifying disease, establishing case definitions is important. "The case definition on a dairy is a fancy way of defining to the farm personnel what, exactly, constitutes an intervention point for them."
Some dairies define mastitis as any visible clots, flakes or otherwise abnormal milk (true medical case definition) where other dairies define a case of mastitis as a cow who presents to the milker during the milking process a second shift or a second day with signs of clots or flakes.
"At first glance these sort of definitions may raise the eyebrows of some until it is realized that a barn of astute milkers in a herd where the most common mastitis cases presented are mild coliform cases and can quickly fill a hospital pen with cows who were seen with a single flake in the parlor but spend two days in the hospital pen with no clinical signs and a negative culture report."
Goodell says an easier case definition would be retained placenta. "True medical case definition is described as any placenta retained after 12 hours. This isn't practical on most dairies so we define the case definition as any cow with placenta still present 24 hours after calving. In this instance the case definition is simply based on time."
If the case definition of mastitis is a laterally recumbent cow in the milking pen then mastitis treatments in this herd will be much different from a herd where the case definition is a single flake in a cow's udder at milking time. "These are two extremes that wouldn't typically be used, but it makes the point," Goodell explains.
The case definition is different enough from dairy-to-dairy that Goodell often finds it unreliable to compare disease rates between dairies without knowing case definitions. "Some of that issue is iatrogenic due to how cases are recorded. If a cow arrives with a case of mastitis, first line therapy fails and progresses to the second line therapy it is still only one mastitis event. If the cow is recorded with a second mastitis event it would be interpreted that she is a chronic mastitis cow whereas more correctly the treatment we prescribed did not work. She may indeed turn into a chronic mastitis cow, however we need to evaluate therapies in these cases to see if what we are using works best for the disease at hand." Also, he adds, if dairies record the second treatment event as a second case of mastitis, it can falsely inflate the mastitis rate on the dairy.
DTR, recurrence and cost
Monitoring also does not stop at disease prevalence. "More and more today we are asked to identify specific costs associated with a particular disease on one dairy," Goodell notes. "This is used only to move the dairy ahead in achieving its own goals of reducing costs and providing effective
treatments and should never be used to benchmark against other dairies." Goodell says benchmarking was in vogue about 10 years ago, however,it was quickly learned that simply comparing the rates between two dairies and suggesting one was good and one wasn't was not accurate due to differences in goals, case definitions and management of those cases.
"The three biggest things we would monitor after disease incidence or prevalence would be days to resolution, recurrence rate and of course cost of treatment," he explains. "Most of this information is already built into a dairy management system and is very easy to retrieve out of just about any software."
Days to resolution (DTR) is used within a dairy to define treatment failure, treatment success or improved treatment success. "If DTR for one treatment is shorter or longer than for the other than we can quantitatively evaluate treatments."
There can be two outcomes to a treatment -- short term and long term. "For example with a particular mastitis treatment we may have a shorter DTR than a previously used treatment, however, the recurrence rate may be increased. In this situation the short term outcome is more successful but will eventually be altered by the increased recurrence rate and the veterinarian has to decide if change in treatments is truly justified."
Just as the case definition needs to be defined so does DTR and recurrence, Goodell adds. "Does resolution of mastitis occur when clinical signs are gone or when the offending quarter is CMT negative? Once again goals of the dairy are used to evaluate how to define these items."
Recurrence is a bit simpler in most cases. "If mastitis occurs within the same quarter within two weeks does this constitute recurrence? Does it have to be the same pathogen if cultures are collected?"
The following may seem like too much for a veterinarian to get done. Nevertheless dairies are beginning to ask for this type of information. "Having this level of data available allows for a more cost-effective approach to disease management than ever before," Goodell says. "While it may seem a bit complicated to get some of these systems in place, once done, data is usually collected automatically and can be analyzed each month or quarter."
In the best systems only raw data (not calculated) is collected (ie: ID, dates, pen, milk, etc.) from the dairy management software and basic calculations for disease rates, cost accounting, etc., can be performed outside of the dairy management software. Almost all dairy management software systems have a way to get data out. "This is perhaps the most important aspect these days since many software companies have restricted or limited the input of data into their own program such as DC305 and others." Goodell adds that dairy management software tends to define things differently within the program so that comparing between programs really isn't possible.
"In some cases all a producer wants to know is the success rate of a treatment and the cost of a treatment," he says. "Once DTR and recurrence are covered, it is a simple function to input costs." Many dairy software packages claim to be able to get this data however to this point nothing used to date gets the job done, Goodell says.
Goodell offers this advice for setting up monitoring systems for dairy diseases. "Keep it simple and concisely defined for farm personnel. The upfront time put in to get this started is rewarded over and over again as these 'customized' monitoring programs are put in place for an individual dairy. It typically generates another revenue source for the veterinarian and delivers high quality decision- making tools to the producer.
"Finally remember that the resulting case definition defined for the dairy may not be the text book case definition of the disease, but when defined simply and treatment protocols defined around the case definition, the health of the animal is usually improved and goals for the dairy are more often met."
Sidebar: Steps in monitoring disease
Greg Goodell, DVM, says that systematically, setting up a mastitis monitoring program would go something like this:
1. Identify the goals of the producer (is it BTSCC under 100K or BTSCC under 300K?).
2. Define case definition as described above (health of the cow, ability of the farm personnel to identify disease and the most prevalent presentation).
3. Define treatment protocols to treat the identified disease (additionally quality control is implemented and defined).
4. Define how this disease is recorded.
5. Define action points when disease rates are not meeting goals set by producers.


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HOUSTON - Residents in one east Houston neighborhood awoke Sunday morning to find their vehicles' windshields shot up.
"I started walking the block and I found 10 other vehicles shot up with BB guns," said Gaspar Guerrero.
He and other neighbors in the 1500 block of Munger near Broadmoor believe it's the work of someone with a BB or pellet gun.
Guerrero found nine holes in his windshield. They're small but he fears they will spread and get worse, and he'll be forced to replace the glass.
Phillip Bernal is also a victim and thinks it's the work of some neighborhood kids.
"It's the summer and kids need to get back in school. They got nothing else better to do," he said.
The Harris County Precinct 6 Constable's Office is investigating. They said at least a handful of victims have come forward.
"This is a big deal because this leads to other crimes," said Deputy Marco Leal. "Are they targeting just people's property or do we know of them targeting other people as well."
Deputy Leal said the gunmans start by shooting up windows in vehicles, but if they're not caught, they could gain confidence and start aiming their weapons at other things.
That's why they're stepping up patrols in the area.
"There are going to be some officers working in unmarked vehicles keeping an eye on the area and seeing if they see anything suspicious," Leal said.
Copyright 2012 by Click2Houston.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


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Hi guys,
I have a problem that google doesn't seems to have any reliable answer for, so I'm asking you:
I got BackTrack 5 R3 installed in a USB Pendrive and I choose to encrypt the files. Now I need to get this usb pendrive free because I got another one with 64GB of volume and I will install a fresh BT in this one. So the question is how I can get BackTrack 5 R3 (encrypted) removed from a USB Pendrive ?
P.S. I try format it from a Windows 7 system and doesn't work.
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I didn't realize there was a market for books about Beta software – I was proven wrong. Looks like Peach Pit who publishes a lot great books on Adobe software is coming out with Adobe Photoshop CS3 Beta First Look with Bridge and Camera Raw. You can sign up for a preorder, the book looks to be available on Jan 18th.
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Lead Line — June 2003
By Richard Thiel
Adrift and Powerless
|Many boaters are ignorant of the nuances of salvaging and towing.
The moment Ben Ellison turned in his article "Bad Day at Hillsboro" (January 2003), I knew we had a hell of a story. Sure enough, days after it appeared in our January issue, letters and e-mails started pouring in. In fact, there have been so many comments, compliments, and complaints, we've devoted an entire expanded "Mail Drop" to them this month.
Read these letters, and you'll see this is an emotional issue. On one side are boaters who, finding themselves in dire straits, expect help from a towing company for a few hundred dollars. Instead, they're told their boat is being "salvaged"--an alien term for many--and the charge will be in the thousands. Little wonder they feel they are being ripped off.
On the other side are towing operators who say they're following established protocols and seeking just compensation. Many complain that boaters are often ignorant of the basic rules of marine salvage, specifically what determines whether a job is considered a tow or a salvage.
Who's right? There's plenty of blame to go around. Many boaters are ignorant of the nuances of salvaging and towing, perhaps assuming that the same principals that govern automotive towing apply to the marine version. Those who've read Ellison's story and subsequent pieces in PMY now know that marine towing is governed by complex maritime salvage laws, with the defining concept being "peril." If a boat is in peril, she is subject to salvage. (A boat can also be salvaged if she places the environment--say a reef--in peril.) The distinction is clearly open to interpretation, and--here's the rub--the towing operator/salvor is the one who ultimately makes it. That leaves you, the boater, essentially powerless.
Say a towing operator shows up after your boat has grounded. Your running gear is damaged, and you're taking on water, although your pumps are keeping up. You know you're in no danger of sinking, but the salvor says your boat's in peril. What happens now? Three options present themselves. One, the salvor wishes you good luck and leaves. Two, you agree to his judgment, and (hopefully) your insurance company pays the bill. Three, you negotiate for the best price you can--assuming there is time for negotiation. Unfortunately, it seems the issue often never arises until the boat has been towed back to the dock. By then you have no leverage and it's too late to do anything but plead.
How can you protect yourself? The March issue of BoatU.S. Magazine, published by BoatU.S. (which runs its own towing service), offered some suggestions. One is calling your insurance company so it can negotiate with the salvor, which might be impractical if time is a factor. (Imagine trying to navigate a telephone menu to reach an actual human being as the water rises.) Another is asking for a fixed price before a salvor begins work--the operative word being "asking." Face it, the guy has you over a barrel. Finally, BoatU.S. suggests you "try to get any agreement in writing." Again, time and your perilous situation could work against this.
So what do you do? Start by educating yourself about this issue so you aren't shell-shocked when it happens to you. If it does, hope that you get a reputable towing operator (according to our mail, there are plenty), and keep in mind that while property and money are important, safety trumps all. When in doubt, take the tow and worry about the cost later.
This article originally appeared in the May 2003 issue of Power & Motoryacht magazine.


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Kyle Busch broke a 31-race Cup Series winless streak with his victory in the Auto Club 400 on Sunday afternoon and gave Joe Gibbs Racing its first win at the Fontana, CA, track.
However, it was the flaring tempers that occurred in the closing laps that is capturing all the attention.
"I did win the race today, by the way, so that might be a story," said the race winner. "But I'm sure it's not."
Busch is referring to the last lap accident between Denny Hamlin and Joey Logano. Both drivers crashed in the final corner while racing for the win, which escalated the feud between the two former teammates.
Hamlin was transported to a local hospital for evaluation stemming from his injuries while Logano dealt with the angry crews in the garage area.
"Those guys went to racing each other really hard, which is what this sport is all about and what's great about NASCAR," observed Busch on his view of the incident. "They got together a little bit, and then it turned Denny sideways and then somehow Joey got into the fence, too."
The battle between the two leaders allowed Busch to overtake them in the final corner for the win.
"They had no clue that I'm coming," said Busch about his winning move. "They were so focused in on one another that they just left the door open."
Logano not only had to deal with an angry Hamlin crew after the event, but an intense Tony Stewart as well.
Stewart was upset with how Logano blocked him on the final restart, which by many seemed to be a proper move at that point in the race.
"I had to throw the block there," said Logano after the altercation on pit road with Stewart. "That was a race for the lead. I felt if the 14 got underneath me, that was going to be the end of my opportunity to win the race."
Of course, Stewart saw it a different way.
"He has the choice to do that. He's in control of his car," said Stewart of the incident. "If he ever turns down across in front of me again, I don't care what lap it is, he won't make it through the other end of it."
With an off weekend ahead of them, Logano has some time to mend fences. Judging from the egos of the drivers involved, that could be a monumental task. In the mean time, Busch and his JRG teammates have a lot of time to celebrate their breakthrough win.
Copyright 2013 Raycom News Network. All rights reserved.


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exponents video, number sense video, numbers video, rational exponents video.
Simplifying rational exponents 11 video involves exponents, number sense, numbers, rational exponents. The video tutorial is recommended for 1st Grade, 2nd Grade, 3rd Grade, 4th Grade, 5th Grade, 6th Grade, 7th Grade, 8th Grade, 9th Grade, 10th Grade, 11th Grade, and/or 12th Grade Math students studying Algebra, Geometry, Trigonometry, Probability and Statistics, Arithmetic, Basic Math, Pre-Algebra, Pre-Calculus, and/or Advanced Algebra.


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Dogma wrote:rehder wrote: I dont want to hear anymore whining.
Can you really call it whining if you're the first person to make a post in this thread in over a month?
But while we're on the subject... Although Google search does work, it lacks handy features like: filtering by author, searching only within certain forums/subforums, and displaying by either posts or topics. I'd like to think that was more of a clarification than a whine. That said, I love my moderators. Being a moderator sucks. Thanks for doing it. PM me your address. I'll send you a disc.
Thanks for loving us It is a challenge for sure, it's hard to keep as many users as we have happy, but that comes with the territory.
I really wish I could help out with this search feature issue, it's just on board of our size, it's nearly impossible with out paying extensive time and money to get it fixed. Personally, I've never been on a forum where the search feature truly worked as intended.
The Google option seems to be the most viable option.


text: Right now, you're viewing Zazzle's tiles section, where you'll find a variety of ceramic tile designs available to be customized or purchased as is. The perfect way to decorate any space, Zazzle's custom tiles are printable in full color, and you can add photos or text for free. Have your custom tiles framed or set into a keepsake box to make the perfect gift! To find other related products, go to our main page.


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NFL Suspends 4 Saints Players For Bounties
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has handed down suspensions to 4 players who were involved in the New Orleans Saints bounty incident. The 4 include linebackers Jonathan Vilma and Scott Fujita, and defensive lineman Anthony Hargrove and Will Smith. Vilma gets the harshest suspension. He is suspended for the entire 2012 season. He reportedly said prior to the Vikings/Saints NFL championship game in 2010 that the person who knocks quarterback Brett Favre out of the game will get $10,000.


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HOUSTON - A breakthrough discovery in the fight against breast and ovarian cancer: Scientists said there's a genetic link between breast and ovarian cancers, suggesting the two may be attacked with similar therapies.
The findings are reshaping the scientific understanding of breast cancer.
Researchers found that one of the deadliest types of breast cancer is actually closer, genetically, to a kind of ovarian cancer than it is to other cancers originating in the breast.
The breast cancer study was based on analysis of tumors from 825 patients overall. The study identified four genetically distinct types of breast cancer.
The findings are expected to lead to new treatments with drugs already on the market for other cancers.
MD Anderson Cancer Center is currently focusing on individualized treatment.
This link between breast and ovarian cancer gives scientists added leverage to compare outcomes and treatments for both tumors.
Copyright 2012 by Click2Houston.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


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Topic: How to obtain tarceva, and similar meds
my spouse was diagnosed with cc with mets 3 months ago and has had good response to gem/cis. Until I found this site it seemed like there was no good long term hope for this disease (according to other information I read). I have much more hope after reading letters on this site. From what I have read there is no APPROVED treatment if gem/cis no longer works. Yet I see people on this site reporting that they have been on tarceva, and similar meds
My question is: what cancer centers do use these newer drugs and how do they
get approval. Just preparing for the worse in case the cis/gem is not longer effective. Thank you for this being available.


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Squeeze out water from tofu and discard soaking water. Rinse slices under cold water and squeeze again. Slice tofu into thin strips. Place the tofu, shiitake, shiitake soaking water and plain water in a saucepan. Cover and bring to a boil. Reduce the flame to medium-low and simmer for 15 minutes. Add wakame, carrots and sweet corn. Cover and simmer 2 to 3 minutes. Reduce flame to low, add pureed miso and snow peas. Simmer uncovered for 2 minutes. Serve and garnish with scallions.
Per serving - 129 calories, 5 gram fat (33% calories from fat), 12 gram protein, 10 gram carbohydrate, 10 gram fiber, 0 milligram cholesterol, 327 milligram sodium


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"My hat's off to Mr. Dickey. I watched one of his outings when I was in town and I was amazed by his control. I was always looking for new ammunition to bring to the mound so I attempted the knuckleball. It's a very difficult pitch to throw and needless to say, I never mastered it. I congratulate him on his tenacity not only to succeed against all odds but to excel and achieve this very high honor. I look forward to congratulating him personally."
"I saw R.A. pitch at least 10 times this year. I'm really amazed how he was able to remake his career. I never even thought about throwing a knuckleball. To win the Cy Young Award at his age is more incredible than when I won at age 20."


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There's so much going on in Talk and the comments week to week that we almost can't keep up. If you're in the same boat, here's a small selection of topics and responses that have piqued our interest this week.
Cold Pizza for Breakfast
"Cold pizza for breakfast is best enjoyed standing half naked in front of an open refrigerator. Unless you can replicate this experience I'd say no."— Burger365
Favorite ways to cook w/ alcohol
"My favorite way to cook with alcohol is to hold the wine glass in my left hand while I stir the pot with my right."—AcaciaWildwood
Goodies in the mail?
"I am sending my loved ones homemade beef jerky. It is like sending beef flavored gold."— wednesdayvail
If you win Powerball today...
"Convert the winnings to gold coins and fill up a vault with the coins and dive in, Scrooge McDuck style." — ESNY1077
kitchen collections?
"Dog hair. I've got a bit of it everywhere, but it's mostly under the appliances. This is despite the fact that the most often spoken phrase in my house is 'out of the kitchen'!"— jedd63
The relative that should only be in charge of non edible items
"My cousin used to think that the deviled egg filling was supposed to be made from equal parts yolks and mustard. (At least it was still very yellow!) After two years in a row of that my mom volunteered to bring the deviled eggs after that."— elongomatt
"My Aunt, who once ordered Chinese takeout for Thanksgiving at her house, after the previous year when my mom and her other sister came in, chortling over what they had just heard on the radio:
"Hahaha, can you believe on the radio, some poor lady didn't know about the bag of giblets and neck inside the turkey? Cooked it just like that and the plastic melted! Hahaha!"
My Aunt's eyes were big as saucers, and she went running for the oven."— missmochi
Storebought Biscuit Sandwich Showdown: Jimmy Dean vs. Aunt Jemima
"I knew Jimmy Dean had this hands down...Aunt Jemima should stick to pancakes."— jlewfoodie
Poll: How Long Do You Let Leftover Slices Linger?
"What's a "leftover" slice? I've never seen such a thing in my house."—monopod


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Topic: Here we go again!
My first CT scans in February, following the resection in August 2006, showed new spots on my liver. I was referred to Aberdeen Royal Infirmary for a PET scan 2 weeks ago (only 1 PET imager in the whole of Scotland!). Today, I was back in Edinburgh to meet Mr Powell, my surgeon and get the results of the PET Scans. Well the news was much better than I had feared. There are 6 spots on the right lobe, the same side that was resected, but no sign of any other cancer sites. I had convinced myself that it had spread to more sites and surgery would be out of the question. One word of caution from Mr Powell was that cells could have spread to lymph nodes and would not have been large enough to be picked up on the scan.
Anyway, the plan is that I will be admitted to Edinburgh on Wednesday (28th) with resection surgery on Thursday. This time Mr Powell plans to remove the whole of the right lobe instead of just a portion of it. If anything else is found during surgery then it may have to be abandoned. So, here's hoping! If everything goes well, I should be in hospital for a week following surgery.
Today we had a discussion about chemotherapy. The view held in the UK appears to be that chemo following surgery has not been shown to be beneficial and may cause more problems than it resolves. However, I am looking on it as a "belt and braces" approach and I think, given my history, Mr Powell agrees. We have agreed that, if surgery is successful and once I have healed, I will be referred to the oncology specialists in Glasgow to look at a course of chemo.
I hope to be able to give you an update soon.
All the best


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When you use Customization Wizard 9 to configure the installation for Adobe Reader or Acrobat 9, hosts for privileged locations are written to the wrong registry location. Therefore Acrobat or Reader won't recognize them at runtime and these sites will not be trusted. You could see the Yellow-Message-Bar warning about untrusted site access if these hosts are referenced from a PDF file.
This issue is resolved in Customization Wizard 10, so privileged locations are written correctly in Acrobat and Reader X. Adobe doesn't issue patches for Customization Wizard, so there's no way to fix this issue retrospectively for Acrobat or Reader 9. As a workaround, you can change the keys manually in the registry. Or, you can enter the values directly in the enhanced security settings in Acrobat or Reader preferences.
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The privileged hosts are written incorrectly to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Adobe\Adobe Acrobat\9.0\FeatureLockDown\TrustManager\cTrustedSites
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HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Adobe\Adobe Acrobat\9.0\FeatureLockDown\cTrustedSites
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Machado day to day with back tightness
ANAHEIM -- Manny Machado was a last-minute scratch from Tuesday's Orioles starting lineup with back spasms and the 22-year-old is day to day.
Machado first felt the issue creep up during his last round of pregame batting practice at Angel Stadium and after getting treatment, he was hopeful he'd still be able to suit up.
"It took a lot for me," said Machado, who has no history of back issues. "I was out there, and tried running more sprints to see if it was going to go away. But it kept getting tighter and tighter. I really didn't want to, but it was best for the team. In the situation I was at, I wasn't going to be able to be an elite player and help the team win. It was a better situation for me and the team."
Machado was replaced at third base by Ryan Flaherty, who moved down to the eighth spot in the batting order. Second baseman Jonathan Schoop moved up from ninth to Machado's original spot at seventh, with catcher Caleb Joseph moving down to hit last.
"[Machado] walked over to me and said, 'Skip, I don't think I can go.' and I looked and said, 'Are you serious?' We were ready to take out the lineup card," said manager Buck Showalter, who debated on moving first baseman Chris Davis over to third to keep Steve Pearce starting. "Talk about pressure to come up with a lineup."
While Showalter should have more time on Wednesday, it's unclear whether Machado will be back after just a one-day reprieve.
"We saw a doctor and he said it just spasm'ed up a little bit," said Machado, who had no plans Tuesday for an X-ray or MRI. "Took some pills and hopefully it gets better with some time. We'll see how it feels tomorrow."
Added Showalter: "I'll feel a whole lot better [Wednesday] if it manages itself. It's the old day to day."
Machado has played in 66 games for Baltimore this season, missing the first month recovering from offseason knee surgery and recently serving a five-game suspension. He also missed a couple games with a right groin injury in May.
Machado entered the day batting .267 with 10 homers and 23 RBIs.
Brittany Ghiroli is a reporter for MLB.com. Read her blog, Britt's Bird Watch, and follow her on Facebook and Twitter @britt_ghiroli. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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>Look What I Can Do!>Marathon Training
Miles to Go
I am training for my first full marathon - have never run more than a half. Training program is going fine - I am slow but my goal is just to finish. Yesterday was my first distance above a half - was supposed to be a 15 mile run. I took a wrong turn on the route and ran 1.5 before realizing I needed to turn around....so I ended up doing almost 18! I survived and have extra confidence now - though still directionally challenged.
See how they run...
Petco Run/Walk/Wag 5k
awesome. Hope my first marathon training goes as well.
bob e v 2014 goals: keep on running! Is there anything more than that?
Complete the last 3 races in the Austin Distance Challenge, Rogue 30k, 3M Half, Austin Full
Break the 1000 mi barrier!
History: blessed heart attack 3/15/2008; c25k july 2008 first 5k 10/26/2008 on 62nd birthday.
Thanks Bob! Stay healthy and thank you for all your years of service!
Options,Account, Forums
Congratulations! Having the endurance is much more key than being able to read a map, for a marathon, anyway. Most of us just follow the runners in front of us.
It's a 5k. It hurt like hell...then I tried to pick it up. The end.
running metalhead
Easy to say... I once ended up in the front positions between the faster recreational runners and the slower competitors. There were moments when the distance between me and the guys in front and behind were a km at least. Almost went the wrong way... OK, there was public and stuff but it was the last kms of the marathon and I wasn't more than a running zombie XDAnd just wait that I make my first 50K trail... I hope they have enough helicopters to find me. ROFL. This is fortunately a small country so that I will surely stop when I get to the Channel, LOL (at least 500km away from the race location). Well, that's in the case I take the route to the coast, else I'm f****d because the next frontier is either the Mediterranean or Russia, ROFL.Of course, if this happens I would say it was intentional and it's just me being so badass XD
When I run I feel like a swallow
Because you are free like a bird?
Nope, because of all the flies I eat.
Thanks back at ya!


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New ideas for beauty packaging can come from almost anywhere—the produce section at the grocery store, the interior of a car, the playground at a park… the list goes on and on. And packaging itself is important. As Eric Desmaris, business development director for Mega Airless, says, "[Brands] know that packaging delivers tremendous return-on-investment. It represents a critical brand touch point. Every year, in markets both developed and emerging, consumers get more sophisticated. The bar is continually raised in terms of how the package looks, feels, operates. No wonder the premium-type packaging once only found in the prestige brands is now regularly found throughout the personal care product spectrum."
Here, we check in on new innovations from beauty industry packaging suppliers, as well as learn about how they are coming up with their new ideas.
In packaging development across the beauty industry, and particularly in skin care, environmentally friendly options hold a growing sway. CCL Tube recently developed a hybrid tube that combines post-consumer recycled (PCR) resin and a sugar cane ethanol-based resin in a proprietary process that ensures the PCR material does not come into direct contact with the product. It also provides an increased capacity for decoration by extruding a sleeve with PCR sandwiched between two layers of virgin resin. And by replacing the virgin resin with bio-resin, a brand could greatly reduce the environmental impact of its product packaging.
In another eco-friendly approach, Moto Okawa, marketing manager for wipes company Diamond Wipes International, says, "Beginning this year, we had made a strategic shift to replace all our compostable 100% rayon wipe substrate materials with FSC- (Forest Stewardship Council) and Rainforest Alliance-certified papers."
He describes that the drive for such decisions come from collaborative efforts between supplier and clients. "Oftentimes, the new innovative ideas are developed during discussions with our contract packaging customers, who are brand owners or brand marketers," Okawa acknowledges. "In retail store brand and private label areas, our customers are becoming increasingly more demanding of suppliers to take on the role of an idea and thought leader. We also have an interdepartmental collective [form an] innovation task force responsible for researching, understanding and analyzing the current trends and project what is expected in the future and how the innovation can be packaged in a wipe form."
Des McEttrick, market development director for beauty with Aptar, says of her company's development strategy, "Our process usually starts with researching and predicting trends. Creative ideation sessions are born from that, and those ideas help us develop product concepts to address trends and unmet needs. Consumer testing follows to gather insights, which help us further develop concepts with meaningful value and also to tweak functionality and design. Once we've identified concepts that really offer a better consumer experience, then we begin working on launching."
One of the new packaging products Aptar has developed through this process is the Serumony pack. "Serumony delivers precision and simplicity in an airless package," describes McEttrick. "The minimalistic design offers an innovative way to dispense and apply delicate beauty serums, one-touch. With light pressure on actuation, Serumony provides the right dose of formula while reinforcing its hygienic properties. A drop of serum is dispensed directly onto the skin without ever touching the tip of the applicator."
The "no-waste" attribute for beauty, and particularly skin care, packaging is a growing trend as well, setting up for more airless options. Mike Warford, director of sales for ABA Packaging Corp., which is the exclusive distributor of Promens personal care packaging in North America, notes, "Promens has expanded its AirFree product offerings to now include a unique, innovative airless jar package. Manufactured at Promens' Barcelona facility, the Slidissime airless jar package combines the airless pouch technology with a flexible touch and slide pump."
Desmaris also shares some of Mega Airless's packaging developments, noting, "The differentiation in our all-airless solution portfolio can take the form of functional and aesthetic appeal. In the case of our swirl filling capabilities, it covers both. In addition, our hot stamping capability represents a fusion of the most desirable packaging characteristics for products with advanced formulations: the protection only the true airless pack can provide with the brand building decoration that differentiates and attracts consumers at the point of sale. And the Mega Airless + Gaplast's Bag-in-Bottle solutions offer several compelling advantages. A defined fixing of the inner bag at the bottle's bottom and neck results in less residue as the bag collapses. Further, the system provides efficient evacuation, reliability and production efficiency, thanks to fewer parts."
Another packaging trend is premiumization, alluded to by Mega Airless' Desmaris. In a similar vein, Damien Dossin, president of HCP Packaging USA, shares details about HCP's Azure Jar, saying, "It is a thick-walled outer jar in glass-like PMMA, which offers no risk of glass breakage and an improvement in decoration capability with a top plate feature that can be embellished to carry a logo or be molded in transparent PMMA with a decoration underneath."
Regarding body care products, Philip Brand, global marketing director of Lindal Group explains of a recent innovation from his company, "Our twist-lock actuator, Sunny, is quite exciting. It is an appealing new alternative for makers of deodorants and antiperspirants, sun protection and self-tanning products, among others. The Sunny has an attractive, ergonomic design, developed for easy actuation and high top-load resistance."
And Carole Grassi, marketing director for dispensers for Albéa, shares, "Of course, advanced formulations require new levels of protection. Therefore, we continue to work on designs that protect against oxidation and drying. In addition, we are excited about our next-generation EZ foamer, the EZ'R, one of the first squeeze foamers on the market. This is a new [format] that consumers are taking to in a big way. Plus, it's easy to customize, opens new design possibilities with its flip-top cap, and delivers new levels of differentiation. This is our squeeze foamer platform, perfect for facial care, sun care, body care and hair care products thanks to 'EZ' one-hand operation."
Trends like eco-friendliness, no-waste and premiumization show up throughout beauty packaging, and not just in skin and hair care product packs. So, while knowing that particular trends may be more plentiful or seem to apply better in certain categories, it is always good to look across your product portfolio to see where trends can be cross applied—a true mark of innovation.
Packaging for color cosmetics often sees a lot of unique innovation, as it is very different from the bottles, tubes and jars often used for skin, body and hair care.


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LONG BEACH - State and local officials have lauded the concept of a public-private partnership as an innovative, cost-effective way to build the new Gov. George Deukmejian Courthouse, but the concept may not have been the best approach, according to a recent study.
The Legislative Analyst's Office, which generated the report this month, concluded that the state Administrative Office of the Courts did not use clear processes and appeared "to have selected projects not well suited for" a public-private partnership.
The report also stated that studies comparing the costs of projects under different options "were based on several assumptions that are subject to significant uncertainty and interpretation, and tended to favor" public-private partnerships.
"When we removed those assumptions ... the better value for money would be a more traditional procurement," such as a type of design-build approach that the AOC typically uses, said Jessica Peters, who prepared the report for the Legislative Analyst's Office.
Unlike more traditional means for building a public project, a public-private partnership, or P3, places the responsibility of designing, building and financing a project on the developer. In return, the public agency repays the developer over the long term.
It's part of a growing trend among public agencies that prefer the method for its low risk and financing approach.
In Long Beach's case, the state's Administrative Office of the Courts entered into a 35-year pact with Long Beach Judicial Partners, a private team consisting of architects, builders, financiers and facility managers, to build and maintain the courthouse.
Once the project is complete in 2013, the state will start making payments based on the success of the building's operation and maintenance. The state owns the land and the building throughout the contract's 35-year term and will continue to retain title at the end of the contract.
"We certainly believe that this was an appropriate project to do a P3, but importantly, it was directed in legislation that authorized the Long Beach project to be done as a P3 project," said Curtis Child, chief operating officer for the AOC. "It wasn't as if it was pulled out of the air."
He added that there was an extended period of time for development of the project, which underwent some rigorous reviews along the way, he said, adding that the value analysis supported the conclusion that this project was a benefit to the state as the public-private partnership.
Child said one advantage of using a public-private partnership is that the state is under no obligation to pay until the project is delivered.
"You'd get a building built 14 months earlier than under a traditional build, and under this P3 model, the building will be maintained at a quality level throughout the 35-year agreement," he said. "It assures that you get a quality facility because the developer is on the hook for maintaining the facility, so they have every incentive to build a quality facility."
Child said the AOC will continue to do a thorough evaluation of all the steps involving P3s that will enlighten future efforts. AOC has no other P3 projects currently planned, he said.
Meanwhile, the courthouse project is on budget and even slightly ahead of schedule, with a projected completion date of September 2013, Child said.
The project replaces the more than 50-year-old downtown courthouse at 415 W. Ocean Blvd., considered by the state to be one of the worst courthouses in California in terms of security, overcrowding and physical condition.
State and city officials were able to negotiate a land swap that enabled the state to give the 415 W. Ocean Blvd. property to the Long Beach Redevelopment Agency in exchange for the RDA-owned lot in the West Gateway area. The future use of the Ocean Boulevard property hasn't yet been determined.
When completed, the low-rise, L-shaped building designed by AECOM will house 31 civil and criminal courtrooms. The court building will occupy roughly 80 percent of the overall space, which totals 531,000 square feet.
Also, the parking structure across Broadway from the new building is being renovated and expanded to more than 1,000 spaces.
Long Beach Vice Mayor Robert Garcia, whose 1st Council District includes the project area, declined to comment on the report because he had not seen it, but did speak about the project's benefits to the city.
"I think the Long Beach courthouse will be an icon for the downtown and for the region," he said. "The construction is being done in a timely manner.
"They've been working with the community."
Garcia added that the project, when completed, will be good for the local economy in terms of creating jobs, boosting businesses and improving area home prices.
"The new courthouse is absolutely essential for the city," he said.
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WESTONZOYLAND Carnival Club are holding an auction at the Church Hall in Westonzoyland tomorrow (Saturday, March 29) to raise funds for the club and for flood relief.
About 200 items have been donated by local people, from furniture to artwork to electrical goods, including some items left over from a previous auction they did for flood relief in early February.
Viewing for the auction starts at 10.30am with the action itself starting at 6.30pm.


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Sequestration is an ugly specter that has been haunting us for months like a hoard of brain dead zombies. No matter what is said about the dangers of sequestration or the noble but empty pronouncements by our elected officials, it just won't die. It just keeps slowly walking toward the federal check book threatening to devour everything in its path.
The sequestration is scheduled for March 1, just two very short weeks away, and it requires automatic, across-the-board spending cuts if Congress can't agree on a sensible budget. Even an insensible budget would stop the sequestration. It was a plan agreed on during the overheated summer of 2011 when congressional Republicans and the White House were doing a 'Gunfight at OK Corral' thing over legislation to raise the debt limit. Negotiations finally led to the Budget Control Act of 2011, which traded a short term rise in the debt ceiling for deficit reduction measures totaling $2.4 trillion over a 10-year span.
Like most things coming out of Washington, the bill was riddled with holes. It specifically identified only half the cuts and left the remaining $1.2 trillion to be determined by a so-called "Super Committee," with its recommendations to be implemented by Jan. 1, 2013.
In other words, Republicans and the White House conspired to kick the can down the road, saddling a different group of politicians with the decisions that were surely vote losers. Republicans and White House folks dusted off their jeans and washed their hands of the really hard and dirty work, appointing a Super Committee that fell far short of its name.
Here is the hook left in the bill: If the Super Committee failed to reach an agreement, and that was a foregone conclusion, the Budget Control act was written so that it would go out of control, requiring across-the-board spending reductions to be shared by defense and non-defense programs alike.Wisely covering their ample posteriors, though, our politicians exempted Social Security, Medicaid, federal retirement, military pay, and the price tag for ongoing wars.
To no one's surprise, the Super Committee, consisting of equal parts Republicans and Democrats, tripped, stumbled and fell. A last second deal over the fiscal cliff delayed sequestration to March 1. As part of the deal, some of the Bush-era tax cuts were allowed to expire, reducing the amount required for sequestration to about $1 trillion over nine years.
Ahh, that grand old Washington saying, "A trillion here, a trillion there and pretty soon you're talking about serious money."
Talking about the threatened shut down of meat inspection, Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), said "I don't know where that's coming from, USDA will have latitude on cuts."
Where it's coming from is straight from the top. Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said that if Congress fails to avoid a sequester the department would have to furlough food safety inspectors for 15 days.
"If a sequester takes effect, up to 2,100 fewer food inspections could occur, putting families at risk and costing billions in lost food production," the White House said.
It will have a devastating impact on our food supply. The U.S. meat industry may be forced to shut down according to Vilsack, who said spending cuts might keep meat and poultry inspectors out of manufacturing facilities for at least two weeks.
Here is what people are saying:
ABC News "The Note" blog: Take our naval vessels, our jet-engine programs and our Social Security checks–but do not lay hands on our meat.'
Scott George, newly elected President of the National Cattlemen's Beef Association: "While we are certain the USDA contains other 'non-essential' employees, the Secretary has chosen to announce the consequences of sequestration in terms of a furlough of FSIS inspectors, essentially threating to close down all production, processing and interstate distribution of meat. This action has already cost cattle producers significant amounts of money with the downward slide in the futures markets caused by rampant speculation, with untold effect on producers through further regulatory uncertainty."
J. Patrick Boyle, CEO of the American Meat Institute, in a letter to Secretary Vilsack. "We agree with the assessment that furloughing inspectors would have a profound, indeed devastating, effect on meat and poultry companies, their employees, and consumers, not to mention the producers who raise the cattle, hogs, lamb and poultry processed in those facilities.
"AMI respectfully disagrees with the department's assertion in that, in the event of sequestration, the furloughs referenced are necessary and legal. The Federal Meat Inspection Act and the Poultry Products Inspection Act (the Acts) impose many obligations on the inspected industry, which we strive to meet. Those acts, also however, impose an obligation on the department – to provide inspection services." (To view the letter, click here).
A coalition of 37 animal ag groups wrote a letter agreeing with the AMI: "We recognize that sequestration presents significant challenges that require USDA and all other federal government agencies to make difficult decisions to prioritize resources. But cutting an essential, legally mandated program such as food safety inspection is not the way to address the government's budget deficit. We urge USDA to examine all options available to meet its obligations under sequestration while upholding its commitment to ensuring that American consumers have access to the safe, wholesome and nutritious protein sources they have come to expect from the nation's meat, poultry and egg products industries."
Helena Bottemiller, writing for Food Safety News: "The National Cattlemen'sBeef Association estimated that approximately 6,290 establishments nationwide would be severely impacted by a furlough, and that action could result in more than $10 billion in production losses."
(Just so there is no doubt about the term 'severely impacted,' no inspection means no meat can be shipped. The impact will be the severest – total shutdown.)
Kevin Coupe, retail industry analyst and publisher of widely read MorningNewsBeat.com: "It won't just be meat costs and availability that will be affected. I was just reading a piece in the Washington Post saying that sequestration "would roll back border security, increase wait times at our nation's land ports of entry and airports, affect aviation and maritime safety security, leave critical infrastructure vulnerable to attacks, hamper response time and weaken cybersecurity protections."
"I was tending toward the optimistic; working on the assumption that sequestration would have just a negative impact on a fragile economy that our elected officials would never let it happen. But when you read commentators from either side of the aisle, you get the feeling that they're playing a game of chicken. Republicans think the White House will blink and take the blame if sequestration happens, while Democrats think that the GOP-led House of Representatives will back down for fear of taking the blame."
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Chuck Jolley, a veteran food-industry journalist and commentator.


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Thought I'd post early in the morning because I have a lot to do today, and because I know a lot of you guys start blog-surging with the roosters. Don't get used to it, though. I'm a late sleeper.
Some thoughts on the victory last night:
1) Was that really Wade Redden making big plays in both ends?
2) Capt. Drury finally showed up in the skills competition. He made an awful giveaway that Lundqvist complicated by allowing a terrible bad-angle goal.
3) Like them or hate them, this team needs Drury and Redden to play better. Much better. They are not going anywhere for a long time, and they are going to play every day. So they'd better start contributing. Or else.
4) When Alexei Kovalev plays that way, it makes you (me) think, "Why doesn't he play like that all the time?" And that's what has always been so infuriating about him.
5) You know what Iron Mike Keenan would have done with a player like Sean Avery? Double-shift him. Give him a few shifts per game with Colton Orr and Blair Betts, and use his energy and edge to stir it up even more.
6) I mentioned this in the comments last night. Some of the referees aren't biased against the Rangers as much as they are just incompetent.
7) Why is it that the Rangers continue to give up goals right after they score?
8) Lundqvist's third goal allowed was awful. The second, though, it looked to me that he had one eye on Ryan Callahan who was about to run him over. I mean, Hank sure looked as if he moved his right leg to avoid the collision even as the puck was coming from his left.
9) Tortorella just loves it when somebody asks him a dumb question after the game, doesn't he. And if it's an out-of-town writer, he loves it even more. And even more if it's after a loss.
10) Martin Brodeur broke Patrick Roy's record last night, and still nobody in New York (except Chico Resch and Ken Daneyko) know how to pronounce his last name. The second part is "der" not "dure."
11) What if Antropov sees the light and lives up to his ability and becomes a keeper and the Rangers don't have the cap space to re-sign him?
12) Have I mentioned how I feel about the skills competition deciding NHL games?
Here are the official game summary and event summary from last night's game.
There's still time to take a shot at winning $100 million. All you have to do is fill out a perfect NCAA men's bracket. It's free. I will be competing with fellow blogsters Pete Abraham, the Blogfather himself, Kevin Devaney Jr., Josh Thomson (the mystery man from the right side of this page) and Sam Borden. Last year we had a side bet and I lost my shirt (although I think I beat out Sam Weinman; God I miss him). Even if you can't make a perfect bracket, why not try to beat me? I don't think you can. How's that for a dare?
Finally, this: I know a lot of you probably root for the New York Football Giants, too. Well, we have an extraordinary Giants beat writer named Ernie Palladino, who just spent a year fighting for his life. He won, and he's back, and I strongly urge the Giants fans among you Rangers fans to check out his blog from time to time. Or at least stop by to welcome him back, by clicking here, or by pasting this into your bookmarks/favorites: http://giants.lohudblogs.com.


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Today's wedding stationery features the soft purple hue, Pantone African Violet. Purple tends to be one of the most popular wedding colors and not to mention the color represents happiness and healing. Choosing purple wedding invitations for your special day sets the mood for a romantic and charming affair.
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They say there's a style for every mood and a mood for every season. Luckily, it just so happens that this season there are plenty of moods to choose from — especially when it comes to the latest crop of bags. Feeling sweet? Jason Wu's Daphne frame clutch, with its hand-embellished beading, may be just the thing. Craving something a little more rugged? Rag & Bone's cargo pocketed Pilot tote in whiskey-hued leather is sure to satisfy. And for those who just want something lovely to tote from point A to point B (and everywhere in between), there's a bevy of satchels, carryalls, and shoulder bags ready to do the bidding.
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