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New Mid-Priced Coolers from OCZ and Scythe: The Small and the X of Itby Wesley Fink on 10/1/2007 12:05 AM EST
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rbuffetta - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - linkSpend the extra $20-30 and get the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme. Of all the places to cut corners and save money this is really where it counts to protect your cpu and allow for decent overclocks. Reply
EtherealDragon - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - linkAs always, it was a nice read, but why oh why would you plot the 2 graphs on page 7 in that manner? Seems funny to me to have the points on the graphs "drop" as the temperature raises... I guess thats just my .02 Reply
Wesley Fink - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - linkIt's very easy to change the chart with temp going up if enough readers prefer it. We changed the graph scale after receiving several complaints that the top performance was the lowest chart position on the old charts and difficult to comprehend. If more readers prefer the original chart layout we will be happy to change back. Please let us know. Reply
strikeback03 - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - linkI prefer the old orientation, as it makes sense to me that when you are looking for the cooler with the lowest temperature, you look at the lowest point on the graph. Reply
Sentrosi2121 - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - linkPretty acceptable for the OCZ cooler. I wonder how it would perform inside an enclosure like the X-Qpack. I'm trying to build a nice gaming rig with the X-Qpack and would like to see if it would fit inside. Reply
Basilisk - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - link
I wonder how it would perform inside an enclosure like the X-Qpack.
Depends on your skill with a hammer and chisel: The X-Qpack (and X-Qpack2 and Ultra Micro Fly) only have about 75mm of headroom above the CPU -- challenging for a 92mm fam mounted perhaps 40mm above the CPU! Go with a Zalman horizontal flower (7000, 7700, 8700), a few other units or just the stock fan in those cases.
PS: The X-Qpack2 has improved airflow and clearance (length) over the X-Qpack. Reply
Anonymous Freak - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - linkStorageReview just did a review of the http://www.storagereview.com/1000.sr">Western Digital "Green Power" 1 TB hard drive. While it's not the best performing drive in the world, it's no slouch, and it has the side effect of being the quietest drive they've ever tested. (Plus it runs cool enough that you could probably slap it in a Reply
EtherealDragon - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - linkAs always, it was a nice read, but why oh why would you plot the 2 graphs on page 7 in that manner? Seems funny to me to have the points on the graphs "drop" as the temperature raises... I guess thats just my .02 Reply
Phil Harris - Monday, October 01, 2007 - linkIt seems utterly ridiculous to me that these coolers are tested on dual setups.
If someone looking to build a quad is trying to find useful information, this review is completely pointless.
A test on a quad however will still provide useful info to someone building a dual core.
The defence that games don't use quads yet is also totally specious, if thats the reason, why bother testing anything other than dual core machines?
Lets all ignore quad core computing until we can play games on them... is that the idea?
This is the second poor quality review in the cases and cooling section within a few weeks, if Anandtech wants to be taken seriously, a serious re-think is required. Reply
Acanthus - Monday, October 01, 2007 - linkMany enthusiasts that are spending money on components for overclocking have opted for cheap quad cores.
Sorry to sound frustrated, but this is getting rediculous when we are in the world of $270 quad cores. Reply
Wesley Fink - Monday, October 01, 2007 - linkThere is only one game available that may possibly perform better with a quad CPU. Our original thinking was that we would wait to move to quad testing until games are launched that give us a reason to buy a quad-core - somewhere in the future.
However, the point is well-taken that quads do generate more heat than dual-core processors, so we will be doing a comparison in the next few weeks on a range of coolers tested on a quad-core CPU. Reply
Acanthus - Monday, October 01, 2007 - linkThat is fantastic, not all of us buy quads for gaming :D
I have one for encoding. Reply
strikeback03 - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - linksame here, though it would be nice if Premiere would make use of more than one core. Reply
Spacecomber - Monday, October 01, 2007 - linkThe graphs and the discussion of them seemed out of synch, especially on page 5. It's as if the chart being discussed didn't get included or the discussion is meant for another section.
Anyway, I got confused at that point, just looked at the graphs, and drew my own conclusions from there on. ;-) Reply
Wesley Fink - Monday, October 01, 2007 - linkThe Intel Retail results on p.5 had not been updated for CoreTemp results. That has now been updated. Hopefully the commentary now matches the graphs. Reply
Spacecomber - Monday, October 01, 2007 - linkYup, the previous bar for the intel heatsink said something like 41 deg, which left me scratching my head.
The discussion of how the cooling scaled with higher clock speeds also seemed out of place on that page, since there is no graphical representation of that until you get to page 7. Perhaps you were just making those comments paranthetically on page 5, but I wasn't clear why it was being discussed where all the results being graphically presented were for default clock speeds. Reply
FrankThoughts - Monday, October 01, 2007 - link...that took one look at the Scythe "I'm an X! Isn't that AWESOME!" design and immediately figured performance was going to suck? Repeat after me: gimmicky cooler designs do NOT work well! Just look at the first image of the cooler: all the closely packed fins, lots of gap between the fan and the fins, and you can already guess that most of the air so going to go around the fins rather than through them.
Maybe a plastic shroud around the HSF would have helped, but even then a large amount of air would just go through the center gap. This is one of those designs that looks nifty but has some bassackwards thermodynamic "theory" at its core. Reply
strikeback03 - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - linkI'm just surprised they let something out that sucks this bad. If the performance were at least a little better than stock some might buy it for the looks, but this performance is just embarrassing to Scythe. Reply
puffpio - Monday, October 01, 2007 - linkI agree
You can immediately look at it and see that the air the fan blows is going to go AROUND the heat sink...basic fluid dynamics..path of least resistance
But also w/ the OCZ cooler, they cut out some heat sink fins to make a curve shape...so you loose thermal capacity and gain aesthetics?
Someone needs to design an enthusiast heat sink and fan that consulted a thermal and aerodynamic engineer...perhaps tapping into the skill set of people who design car radiators.. Reply
KazenoKoe - Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - linkI would like to know how the Scythe cooler performs with 2 smaller fans, one for each heatsink, instead of one fan at an odd angle. Reply
strikeback03 - Thursday, October 04, 2007 - linkshould be better, but fitting them would be a problem as they would have to be really thin. Plus small fans are usually loud. Best way to make this cooler worth anything would probably be a shroud to block air from heading straight out the bottom or to the sides. Reply
DrMrLordX - Monday, October 01, 2007 - linkWere it not for the noise on the Vendetta, I'd say it would be entirely preferable to the ever-popular Arctic Cooling Freezer HSFs. At that price point, with that performance, the only reason I could see going for a Freezer 7 Pro would be the noise were I sensitive to that sort of thing. Reply


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1) Just sayin' … if what the Rangers have done in the last two games is what they're practicing, there's a big, big problem.
2) Their shots on goal in the last six periods: 5-5-7-8-4-8, and that's with the desperation of being behind for almost the entirety of both games. That's another problem.
3) You cannot have a PP when four guys are standing still. And you cannot have a PP when three or more guys are above the circles. Especially when your overall skill level is low. The Rangers need some wrinkles on the PP, no doubt about it, maybe more of an umbrella, maybe some set plays. But it almost looks as if they don't practice it or talk about it. And they do. All the time. That's a problem.
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8) And The Captain took a couple more dumb penalties, though the second one is a call that is really ruining the game of hockey.
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James has worked as a Street Sense vendor since 2003, and he is currently the vendor advisory team chairman. In addition, he does part time quality assurance work for a subcontractor on the Metro Silver Line. James began working with the National Coalition for the Homeless in 2003. He enjoys "making an impression on people who may have preconceived notions of those experiencing homelessness" and "showing people it can happen to anyone."
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John Harrison, Jr.: Born in Detroit, John moved with his family to the D.C. area when he was ten. Upon graduating from high school, he began working and did quite well for himself. John had a car and his own apartment. Eventually, around age forty, he experienced a series of misfortunes. John lost his job when his company was bought out, and, soon after, his home burned down. He stayed in his car for a period of time before he began living on the streets. For John, homelessness was an exhausting experience. "It was hard to look beyond whatever day it was." Surprisingly, "Snowmageddon," Washington's snow storm in the winter of 2010, gave John some traction. He began shoveling snow, and, with his earnings, John was able to rent himself a place to stay. With a consistent place to stay at night, he was also able to take better care of himself. Today, he is underemployed, but employed with a roof over his head. John began working with the National Coalition for the Homeless in 2003. He enjoys "changing attitudes" towards homelessness and finds his work with the speakers' bureau to be a "reminder of his good fortune."
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Jeffrey McNeil: Jeff was born in Ohio and raised in New Jersey. For a long time, he had his own apartment and worked full time. However, he lived paycheck to paycheck and eventually began to experience depression. Jeff grew sicker and soon lost his job and his home becoming homeless in 2005. During his experience with homelessness, Jeff drifted around often staying in tunnels and shelters. He came to Washington, D.C. in 2007 and began selling Street Sense, D.C.'s street newspaper. However, Jeff was still sick, and he was ultimately diagnosed with bipolar disorder. One day, one of his customers offered to help him find treatment. Jeff accepted, and he began to take better care of himself, saving his money and renting himself a place to stay. Today, Jeff is housed. He still sells newspapers in addition to his job with an independent broadcasting company. Jeff began working with the National Coalition for the Homeless in 2008. He enjoys sharing his story with young people and teaching them homelessness "can happen to anyone."
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David Pirtle: Originally a restaurant manager in Phoenix, Arizona, David began to experience the symptoms of schizoaffective disorder in his early twenties. He was unable to maintain employment due to his mental illness and became homeless at twenty nine. David began to travel around the country and stayed in New York City for six months before coming to the Nation's Capital on New Year's Day in 2005. David lived on the streets in Washington for over a year, mainly shoplifting to survive, until he was arrested and eventually placed into mental health treatment. He was also referred to a homeless shelter, where he lived for another eight months. During his experience with homelessness, David was assaulted, beaten with a baseball bat, and even spray painted. On November 17, 2006, David was granted an apartment through Washington's inaugural housing first program.
Today, David is a homeless advocate who specializes in hate crimes and criminalization of homelessness issues. David began working with the National Coalition for the Homeless in 2006. He credits the speakers' bureau with helping him to maintain his mental health saying, "It is easy to lose your voice when you're homeless." David enjoys seeing the effect one can have on people by "simply sharing your story."
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Eric Sheptock: In 1988, shortly after graduating high school, Eric took a job as a freight handler at Shands Hospital in Gainesville, Florida. After six years at Shands, Eric had a falling out with his boss and walked off the job. He decided to move back to his home state of New Jersey but eventually ran out of money. It was here that he experienced his first bout with homelessness. In 2005, after eleven years of working low wage jobs, he traveled to Washington, D.C., to protest the Iraq war. While in Washington, Eric stayed at the Franklin Shelter which would eventually close in 2008. During that time, he joined a group of men in a long fight with the D.C. government to keep the shelter open. This would eventually lead to Eric's rise as a homeless advocate in the D.C. area.
Today, Eric resides at the Community for Creative Non-Violence, the largest shelter in DC. Eric began speaking for the National Coalition for the Homeless in 2006 and enjoys educating and dispelling stereotypes. He hopes that his work with the speakers' bureau inspires young people to careers working with those experiencing homelessness.
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George Siletti: In 1972, after living in foster care for seven years, George became an emancipated minor at the age of sixteen. Here, he experienced homelessness for the first time. George began hitch-hiking across the United States, and, over the next thirty plus years, he traveled to every state with the exception of Alaska. With no job skills, identification, address, or phone, George found it difficult to find work in the places he traveled to. While living in Florida, George experienced an excessive level of discrimination. There, he says, "The homeless are often arrested for crimes as simple as jaywalking or littering." After working in Baltimore, Maryland, for a period of time, he came to Washington, D.C. in 1996. In 2003, George was able to find permanent housing through Friendship Place.
Today, he serves as a community representative at Friendship Place. George began working with the National Coalition for the Homeless in 1996. He enjoys educating people of all ages about homelessness through his story.
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Steve Thomas: A native Washingtonian, Steve got involved with drugs and alcohol when he was young. He enlisted in the Air Force Reserve at twenty one, but Steve continued to struggle with addiction and eventually lost his home. He was fifty one when he first experienced homelessness in 2005. Steve says, "As I walked down Pennsylvania Avenue, I saw people on every single bench, and then it hit me: 'They're homeless, and I am too.'" He found a bench and stayed there for eighteen months before he met a volunteer doctor working on a Homeless Care and Outreach Van. He asked Steve, "Would you allow me to help you?" and Steve said yes. He spent the next twenty eight days in rehab, and, today, Steve is seven years clean and sober. Steve began working with the National Coalition for the Homeless in 2007. He finds speaking to be a "vehicle of expression" and enjoys watching how his story can affect change in young people.
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Dana Woolfolk: A native Washingtonian, Dana was raised in a loving home, but he fell victim to a lifestyle consumed with drugs and alcohol. "I grew up in the 60's and 70's and in my social circle, recreational drug use was acceptable. Had I known that I would become a full blown addict I would never have tried that first one." For many years, Dana owned and operated a successful plumbing, heating and electrical contracting company. "After a while, I couldn't work. I needed to devote all my time and attention to getting and using drugs." Finally, Dana lost everything including the close ties he had with his family and friends. He ended up living on the streets of D.C. and Northern Virginia for over three years. Dana found help through a rehabilitation program and was eventually placed in transitional housing before buying his own home.
Today, he is a therapist for the City of Alexandria Department of Community and Human Services where he has worked since 2002. Dana began working with the National Coalition for the Homeless in 2003. He enjoys "having the opportunity to answer the audiences questions about what is was like to be homeless and share ways that they can best assist those who are experiencing homelessness."
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The standard format for a "Faces of Homelessness" presentation includes:
- Multi-media slide show or video about homelessness in America
- Moderator to present the facts about homelessness
- Up to three panelists who are or have been homeless
- Open question and answer session
Afterwards, the panelists will offer ways for people to get involved, from volunteering at shelters to influencing legislation.
While we do follow a standard format, we are very flexible to fit the needs of the group. Since 1999, the DC-based Speakers' Bureau has given over over 3,000 presentations, speaking to over 50,000 people.
The lack of interaction between different groups of our society, combined with impersonal or inaccurate descriptions of homelessness posed by the media and public officials, contributes to a distancing of those who have housing from those who do not. As a result, homelessness is perceived as an abstract social problem. We believe the Speakers' Bureau is an important part of the fight to end homelessness in America as it links the many different levels of our society together and challenges commonly held misconceptions. Our "Faces of Homelessness" Speakers' Bureau accomplishes this by:
- Putting a human face on homelessness.
- Creating better understanding on a very difficult and complex problem one person at a time.
- Challenging the myths of homelessness with the actual realities of homelessness.
- Promoting, supporting, and facilitating dialogue between housed and homeless Americans to effectively address this growing problem.
- Building public awareness of homelessness on a local and national level.
This unique and necessary approach to addressing homelessness establishes a significant platform for those whom homelessness affects directly to talk personally about their experiences while advocating for themselves and others. Ultimately, The Faces of Homelessness Speakers' Bureau seeks to build bridges with the rest of society so that we may work cooperatively to end this disgrace called homelessness.
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The developers of Blink, a messaging app that could be programmed to destroy messages, are moving to Yahoo to work on communications products.
The app for both Android and iOS will be shut down over the next few weeks, the team said in a blog post Tuesday.
The Blink team said it built its secret messaging app, which destroyed messages including videos after a set period of time, because it believed "everyone should be free to show the same honesty and spontaneity in their online conversations as they can in person."
"We look forward to the possibilities that will come from bringing the Blink vision to Yahoo," they added.
"I can confirm that the entire team behind Blink and Kismet will be joining our mobile team in Sunnyvale where they will focus on smart communication products," a Yahoo spokeswoman said. She did not disclose whether Yahoo had acquired the company or just brought over the staff. "The team is joining Yahoo and we are not acquiring the product," she wrote via email. "Were not going to comment on deal structure beyond that."
Kismet is a location-based social networking app also developed by Blink developers Meh Labs.
Attracting the teams of startups to the company has been a key element of Yahoo's acquisition strategy. The Internet giant has made a string of small acquisitions since Marissa Mayer became CEO in 2012, which by some estimates could be around 40.
Blink rival Snapchat entered into an agreement last week with the U.S. Federal Trade Commission to settle charges that it had deceived consumers by making false promises about the disappearing nature of messages sent through its app.
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It was later in the evening on a Friday night, and the phone rang. I initially panicked a bit. After all, most of my friends were probably doing what I was doing (nodding out on the couch), and any relative who was calling me at that hour was probably in the midst of a crisis. The newspaper was already off the press, so I knew it wasn't an office call.
I almost decided to ignore the call, but the "what ifs" quickly turned my sleepy demeanor into reality.
On the other end of the phone was a dear friend who is much younger than I am (probably at least 20 years younger). The sound of his voice made me smile immediately, and we quickly headed into a conversation, as usual, it was an in-depth one. I love that about this friend. While we intersperse small talk with these insightful conversations, I think we both hang up the phone or depart company with a myriad of new ideas swarming our soul.
Our friendship is unique. We have passions that are the similar, but on the other hand, we come from two different generations. He is a free spirit, and he reminds me of a place in time in my own life when I would have been classified the same. One thing I really admire about him is that he doesn't allow the convoluted world to get in his way, and that in and of itself is a breath of fresh air to me.
Both of us are in tune enough to know we can only learn from the other, so the age difference between us isn't an obstacle; instead it compliments our thoughts. I'd like to think we inspire each other — Me: The voice of reason and experience (hard to believe, I know), and Him: The voice of a more a youthful perspective mixed with charisma and the awakenings of life. Our friendship is a good match.
I spoke; he listened. He spoke; I listened. The conversation went on and on as the minutes ticked by unnoticed. Our admiration for each other is apparent, and we both know we can say about anything without worrying the other won't understand.
At some point in our chat, we got around to talking about our goals. That's when I heard myself offering some advice to my young friend. He picked up on my words right away, and before I knew it, despite his much younger age, I realized he was already a few steps ahead of me.
We talked about our desires to reach our goals, but we also came to the realization that we must not focus so much on those goals that we forget to enjoy the journey along the way. I offered those thoughts, but he was already ahead of this old gal. He got it. He already understood that concept. Actually, he was already leaps and bounds ahead of me, especially when it comes to relishing the trek toward our target destinations — our goals, rather than being so anxious to achieve those goals that we inevitably lose sight of all the wonderful scenery along the way.
My friend appears to enjoy every second of life, and the best part of that is he knows he's enjoying it while he's enjoying it. He isn't racing toward the destination like we tend to do when we get older; instead, he's living each and every day — really living. He refuses to become so breathless with his race to accomplish his goals that he loses sight of what's important along the way. He understands that if he gets to his goal and he's old and completely worn out, it won't make any difference whether he's accomplished his goal or not.
After several more minutes of conversation and reflection, we both hung up the phone ... I had to assume his smile was similar to mine. I think we all could use a younger friend to help keep life in perspective. I'm sure glad I answered the phone that night ...
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Ohio is using regional events over the next few weeks to train educators about preparing for and responding to school shooting situations. The training includes these suggestions:
-- Develop safety plans for responding to various threats, including an active shooter.
-- Test safety plans in a realistic environment with sensory overload to mimic the stress of a real emergency.
-- Incorporate law enforcement in training sessions and drills to ensure educators and police are on the same page.
-- Plan gathering spots outside the building and parking lot in case of evacuation.
-- Do not ignore troublesome behaviors that could be warning signs of potential violence.
-- Communicate information about the threat and its location in plain language and update continuously.
-- Quickly determine the most reasonable way to protect lives, such as to run or to hide quietly.
-- Secure the immediate area. In lockdown, lock doors and then barricade them.
-- Position people behind extra protection, such as walls or desks.
-- Silence cell phones and close blinds or block windows.
-- Create a plan to fight back using any items on hand if necessary.
-- If attacked, do not remain stationary. Use distraction techniques and try to escape or swarm attacker.
-- If you seize attacker's weapon, carry it in a trash can or other container to avoid perception that you are a threat.
Source: Instructor James Burke of Ohio Police Officer Training Academy


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Oil prices tumbled Thursday, with U.S. crude dropping 4 percent as investors booked profits a day after a surge to five-month highs tested key technical levels.
U.S. gasoline futures led the oil complex lower as refiners returned from seasonal maintenance at a time of weak demand, and amid a sell-off across commodity and equities markets.
The New York Mercantile Exchange oil futures contract caught a strong sell signal on the Relative Strength Index (RSI) the day after it rose over 70 on a 14-day moving average -- usually interpreted as a sell sign.
The RSI dipped to 61.3 on Thursday as prices fell, after U.S. crude bounced off a long-term trendline after weeks of gains that were capped by a $3 rise on Wednesday in heavy spread trading.
"We're almost into a seventh week of gains in U.S. crude and that has prompted some investors to take some profits," said Gene McGillian, analyst at Tradition Energy in Stamford, Connecticut.
In London, ICE Brent crude for January delivery settled at $108.22 a barrel, dropping $3.66, or 3.27 percent, front month Brent's the biggest one-day percentage loss since Oct. 17. In early trading, the contract broke below its 100-day moving average of $111.38.
U.S. crude for December delivery, which expires on Friday, settled at $98.82, down $3.77, or 3.67 percent, the biggest one-day percentage loss for front-month crude on the New York Mercantile Exchange since Sept. 28.
U.S. crude jumped on Wednesday following news of a pipeline reversal in the Midwest that will ease a glut of crude around the Cushing, Oklahoma delivery point for the NYMEX contract.
The premium of Brent to U.S. crude, which ballooned to over $28 a barrel in October due to the rising Midwest inventories, tumbled $3 to $9 a barrel on Wednesday and dropped below $8 at one point on Thursday, as traders digested the impact of the Seaway pipeline reversal.
"Yesterday's rally (on U.S. crude) after the announcement of the Seaway pipeline reversal was more of a reactionary move related to Brent/WTI spread liquidation," said Tom Bentz, director at BNP Paribas Prime Brokerage Inc in New York.
"But the reality is that more crude making its way into the (U.S.) Gulf. Let alone the fact that a larger amount of refiners in the Gulf will have more access to higher grades of sweet crude to process into products," Bentz added.
U.S. and Brent crude trading volumes were about 15 percent over the 30-day average, preliminary Reuters data showed. The selling came as traders kept an eye on the euro zone, where the debt crisis threatened to engulf France and Spain.
Selling sent the commodities on track for their biggest loss since September, while U.S. stock markets fell as nervous investors bailed out of the market.
The euro trimmed gains against the dollar after the sharp losses on Wall Street and on commodities.
(Additional reporting by Robert Gibbons in New York; Jessica
Donati in London; Manash Goswami in Singapore; Editing by Marguerita Choy, Matthew Robinson, and David Gregorio)


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This is a great time of year if you are a fan of Brussels sprouts – my hand is raised! – their season is brief and they taste so sweet and delicious when they're super-fresh.
My local grocery store sells Brussels sprouts on the stalk every year around Thanksgiving, and I've grown to prefer buying them this way. Since you can pluck them off right before you want to cook them, they couldn't be any fresher than if they'd grown in your own backyard garden.
I've always been intrigued by the unusual beauty of Brussels sprouts; I love their miniature cabbage-like form and their distinctive taste, a combination of cauliflower and broccoli. And like cauliflower and broccoli – their siblings in the Brassica family – they take well to roasting and tossing with good Parmesan cheese – one of my favorite methods to use on any sturdy vegetable.
In addition to this rustic Italian-style recipe, I've recently given them the Julia Child treatment on my other blog, Dinner with Julia, where I prepared a recipe for Brussels Sprouts Braised in Butter and Cream from Mastering the Art of French Cooking. Even if you are a confirmed Brussels sprouts avoider, you might change your mind after a taste of these buttery nuggets.
- 1 pound Brussels sprouts
- Fine sea salt
- Extra virgin olive oil
- 1/4 cup Parmesan cheese
- Trim the Brussels sprouts of any yellowing leaves. Bring 3 quarts water to a boil; add 2 teaspoons salt and the Brussels sprouts.
- Boil for 5 minutes. Drain and toss in a large bowl with enough olive oil to coat the cheese.
- Arrange them on a shallow pan and place under a hot broiler about 4 inches below heat source until golden, 1 or 2 minutes.
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Forums: Index > The Wizengamot > Pages on hair colour
What are people's views on that? One page, seperate pages, categories, no further mention besides the infobox? The whole "Blond(e) Pure-blood Families" page thingy made me wonder. SorenaJ 18:10, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
- As I mentioned in the deletion discussion, the various family pages (House of Black, Malfoy family, etc.) can be used to cover notable family traits. This includes hair colour. -- 1337star (Drop me a line!) 18:13, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
- Well, although I am generally liable to agree, this time I have to differentiate. I think it would be useful to have either one page for all the hair colours or else a category for "ginger individuals", "black-haired individuals", so on and so forth. Anyways, yeah, that's what I think (nice conclusion, eh?) --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 19:47, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
- I don't see any problem with having categories if people want them and making mention of it on the respective articles. Articles for the colors (I reserve the right to U.S. standard-spellings on forum discussions.) themselves are unnecessary. ProfessorTofty (talk) 20:12, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
- So far, two people (if you count a "categories if anything" as a yes then three) say categories, one says simply to add them to pages, just to summarize (-ize? -ise? Which is right?)--Hunnie Bunn (talk) 20:19, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
- "Summarise" if you accept British spellings, "summarize" if you choose to follow what I said above. (And four-score and some-odd 200 years ago, or something like that, we fought for and won our independence from Britain, so we shall not bow to the rule of the unnecessary "u" and the "s" instead of "z." At least, not on the forum pages anyway.) :D ProfessorTofty (talk) 21:05, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
- I just do it because it helps me remember to use it in the mainspace. Anyway, I personally think categorising by hair colour is rather pointless, from a work/reward ratio standpoint. It's just not a very interesting or important thing to group people by, especially compared to the number of pages that would have to be categorised. -- 1337star (Drop me a line!) 21:43, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's true, it's not very high-value, and if were to be done, it ought to either be done properly or not done at all. ProfessorTofty (talk) 21:52, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
- Indeed, when you say it like that it doesn't seem all that worthwhile... I'd be willing to do it once I'm finished with my most recent project, though. --Hunnie Bunn (talk) 21:58, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
- If categories are decided upon, I can help with categorising individuals. SorenaJ 07:32, September 19, 2012 (UTC)


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Mosquito Range > Mount Sherman > Climber's Log
Mount Sherman Climber's Log
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|Route Climbed: Iowa Gulch Date Climbed: September 1997
|Quite an easy 14er. Perfect for a first timer too. I only met a few people. Went and checked out the ruins of the Climax mine and Hilltop mine. Good weather, very dry. A good day.
|Posted Jan 27, 2006 3:44 pm
|Route Climbed: Fourmile Creek Date Climbed: 6/13/04
|Not a long hike but cold weekend with high winds on the ridge. You could alwost lean 45 degrees into the wind without falling. Beautiful dark blue skies that day. 14er #10
|Posted Jan 19, 2006 9:41 pm
|Route Climbed: Fourmile Creek Date Climbed: October 2004
|Easy trip
|Posted Jan 15, 2006 8:02 pm
|Route Climbed: Iowa Gulch Date Climbed: July 21, 2003
|We climbed at night in the rain. We had some trouble finding the summit marker in the dark.
|Posted Jan 10, 2006 12:40 pm
|Route Climbed: Iowa Gulch Date Climbed: March 12, 2005
|First successful winter 14er!
|Posted Jan 9, 2006 8:21 pm
|Route Climbed: Fourmile Creek Date Climbed: August 27, 2005
|Short easy hike from Fourmile creek. Also summited Gemini Peak & Mt. Sheridan.
|Posted Dec 30, 2005 12:20 pm
|Route Climbed: Fourmile Creek Date Climbed: November 26, 2005
|This mountain is completely destroyed by old mining activity. If you're going for all of them, you just gotta muscle through this one. The only fun part is the summit ridge - had a nice cornice to deal with which made an otherwise boring 14er a fun one. From the top, you can see there's a nice drainage on the east side of the valley that is really fun to go down in the snow vs. the way up. You can get some glissading in and you skip all the tailings piles on the west side that you hated climbing up and around.. Follow it and it comes out right back on the 4wd road just below the final gate on the road. Just don't go in it when avalanche conditions are bad...death trap if something triggered.
|Posted Nov 30, 2005 11:35 pm
|Route Climbed: Fourmile Creek Date Climbed: October 29, 2005
|Climbed with Peter (pksander)
Great warm up climb for Orizaba
|Posted Oct 30, 2005 1:49 pm
|Route Climbed: Fourmile Creek Date Climbed: October 28, 2005
|Great climb with Bill of Dearborn, IL. New views, save a great snowy ridge. Easy climb, even in winter white out conditions, save for a bit of routefinding.
|Posted Oct 29, 2005 6:52 pm
|Route Climbed: Fourmile Creek Date Climbed: August 04
|The most uneventful 14er I've done. This is a very good beginning 14er. This will let you begin to interpret weather issues at altitude without overtaxing yourself.
|Posted Oct 14, 2005 4:27 pm
|Route Climbed: Iowa Gulch via West Ridge of Sheridan Date Climbed: October 8, 2005
|Excellent day, perfect weather. Climbed Sheridan, Peerless, Horseshoe, Sherman, and Gemini. Got tired right below the summit of Dyer and headed down.
|Posted Oct 9, 2005 12:53 pm
|Route Climbed: Fourmile Creek Date Climbed: October 2, 2005
|Very easy, short and enjoyable climb despite some incredibly strong winds. Great day in the sun and early snow with climbing partner, Alan Arnette.
|Posted Oct 2, 2005 8:00 pm
|Route Climbed: Iowa Gulch Date Climbed: Sept. 7, 2005
|Easy by 14er standards, though there was quite a bit of scree and loose rock. No one else was coming from the Leadville side today, so I was surprised to find myself alone at the trailhead.
If you park at the road closure sign, make sure you walk up the road for 3/4 mile before diving into the basin at a cairned turnoff. I bushwhacked quite a bit before finding the trail. After that it was a slog up rocky slopes all the way to the summit.
A few false peaks, and a long ridge on top.
|Posted Sep 16, 2005 7:56 pm
|Route Climbed: Southwest Ridge from Fourmile Creek Date Climbed: August 22, 2005
|My first 14er, hope it's not my last. Think I did pretty well for an overweight and old flatlander from Indiana. Thanks to my new son-in-law, DJ, for showing me the way. I love you son.
|Posted Sep 6, 2005 1:36 pm
|Route Climbed: Fourmile Creek Date Climbed: September 3, 2005
|Climbed with my ten year old son. His first fourteener. There were probably 100 people on the mountain this Saturday of Labor Day weekend. I was surprised at how late many of them were starting given the clouds forming.
|Posted Sep 3, 2005 7:39 pm
|Woodie Hopper
|Route Climbed: 4 mile Creek Date Climbed: 10/31/04
Date Climbed: Oct 31, 2004
|Very windy, had it all to myself. Also climbed it 11/11/07 from Iowa Gulch en route to Gemini and Dyer- still windy.
|Posted Aug 25, 2005 9:32 am
|Route Climbed: Iowa Gulch Date Climbed: 8.21.05
|Easy climbing, pretty rocks.....thunder, lightning rock my socks
snow on summit , rain below....means the mountain loves me so.......:-)
|Posted Aug 22, 2005 10:19 pm
|Route Climbed: Fourmile Creek Date Climbed: July 2005
|Not exactly a wild mountain by any stretch, but enjoyable none-the-less. Never has a 90 Schilling tasted so good than at the summit :)
|Posted Aug 10, 2005 4:30 pm
|Route Climbed: Leavick Date Climbed: July 30, 2005
|Holy crowds!
|Posted Aug 4, 2005 5:13 pm
|Route Climbed: 4 mile Creek Date Climbed: May 31, 2003
|We had perhaps our most bizarre 14er experience ever on Sherman. As we were descending Sherman on our way to Gemeni, my wife & I approached a couple of people that were fixated on a large furry object on the ground. Hush my mouth & kiss my grits! it was a beaver about 20 of 30 feet from the summit of Sherman. This was extremely bizarre. At the end of the day we concluded that the rodent was carried up the mountain by a raptor of some description. It appeared injured/dazed.
This is one of Colorado's easiest 14ers.
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Hey folks, it seems an old timer and a moderator (at least when time allows) will weigh in.
I was here from the very beginning. I know what the board was and how it came to be behind the scenes and what the world saw. But all that really doesn't matter.
What does is that this is a forum for live fire cooking. Regardless of fuel or rig or even high or low heat. It's about the food. We are here solely by the grace of Workman and Steven. As a result we play be their rules and their hopes and dream and desires of what this board is and will be. As a result we must remember to be open to all and to not bite the hand that feeds us. Many of the issues I read here of "it didn't used to be that way" well some of that is just a sign of the times. Back in the beginning unless you were a web person you didn't have a blog or even a page. Food Network was in its infancy. There weren't a lot off BBQ shows. Now everyone has a blog or a Facebook page. It's just so easy to share content and self promote. And with loads of cooking content on TV and reality cooking shows now everyone aspires to be a TV star. Not saying this is good, bad or indifferent just the way it is now. I am pretty sure that you won't reach that goal here though. But lets keep this in mind that this site unlike so many others isn't selling or promoting, 99% of what is discussed other than Steven's books or Products (and his products didn't exist back in the day). So it is through Workman and Steven that we are permitted to have the broad discussions we do. We must always remember and respect them for that and not abuse or take advantage of that. It is not about us as members of the board, it is about the community.
As to people being active...well I am a perfect example. I started as a guest and posted and contributed enough that I was asked to be among the first group of moderators. At the sites origins there were none at all. We were asked to volunteer. We do this on our own time and are not paid or in any way associated with Workman or Steven. We have seen great folks come and go for their own reasons. I personally answered many posts created many and did lots of behind the scenes duties, including editing, and deleting posts. At the time the board was being built. There was a need and demand for time and posts. It was years until Sticky Threads and FAQ's were created. Then, for me, as with many of us, both moderator and non life got in the way. Work, family, and everything else. Am is still cooking, you betcha. I still average 300 racks, 3 hogs, 40 butts, 20 gallons of beans, countless chicken pieces and steaks and burgers etc etc etc a year. I do this over gas, wood, pellet on rigs that range from cheap and small to very expensive full competition rig. And no I'm not a caterer or a pro cook in any way. I just don't have the time to post about it, or take pictures either. But unlike in the past I don't know if you need me too. The board has become established. Many moons ago the site was starving for content. There was very little here. Now a search will yield hundreds and hundreds of results. At some point are we just restating or reshowing the same info and pictures? I get new content keeps things fresh but at the same time it is up to everyone not just a few anymore to do that. At the same time this site unlike many others is about education. And with all education people move on. They "graduate" or even get bored. Perhaps they come back perhaps they don't. There will always be more folks looking for help and to learn. If folks need help, they will ask, if they want to contribute great, if they choose to just lurk and lean well that is fine too.
All that said we must also remember that if we can't all get along, can't play nice, and keep the site open friendly, helpful, informative to everyone and all then it may cease to exist.
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Soccer City hosted the first and last match of the 2010 FIFA World Cup™, including the opening and closing ceremonies. The stadium is now known as the FNB Stadium/Soccer City, and hosts large rugby and soccer matches and big events like concerts.
In many ways, Soweto's FNB Stadium/Soccer City is the heart of football in South Africa. Not only has it played host to momentous moments in the country's soccer history such as the success of South Africa's National Team, Bafana Bafana, in the 1996 African Cup of Nations final, it has also been the site of significant events in recent political history.
Here the first mass rally following Nelson Mandela's release from prison was held in 1990, and, in 1993, thousands gathered here to mourn the assassination of freedom struggle hero Chris Hani.
It was also the venue for Nelson Mandela's memorial service on 10 December 2013 when an unprecedented gathering of world leaders took place, among them current US president Barrack Obama, along with former presidents Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and George W Bush.
A R1.5-billion upgrade ensured that this 2010 FIFA World Cup™ stadium was properly dressed for its important role. The new design resembles a calabash, or African beer pot. The warm, earthy colours of the 94 700-seater stadium show up vividly against the urban Sowetan landscape.
The stadium sports an extended upper tier, an encircling roof and a total of 184 hospitality suites. It has new change room facilities and improved lighting. Parking for 15 000 cars is available, with a further 4 000 underground bays for VIPs.
Sustainable building principles were a key consideration in construction, with use of reclaimed, low-maintenance materials and energy-saving fittings. In the summer, run-off water from the stadium is stored and used for utilitarian and irrigation purposes.
There are plans afoot for a museum tracing the history of football in Soweto to be built adjacent to the stadium in the future.
The famous 'Soweto Derbies', the soocer matches between bitter rival local soccer teams, Kaiser chiefs and Orlando Pirates, are played here.
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Tours to do
Soweto is South Africa's heritage capital with a plethora of sites and tours related to the freedom struggle. They include the Vilakazi Street homes of Archbishop Desmond Tutu and former President Nelson Mandela, the Hector Pieterson Museum, and the Regina Mundi Catholic Church.
What will it cost
Cost: R80 per person, children under 6 free, pensioners R70. A family ticket of R160 is valid for two adults and three children under the age of 16.
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Tour de France champion Cadel Evans and three-time U.S. national road champion George Hincapie will stay on with the BMC Racing Team in 2012, President/General Manager Jim Ochowicz announced Monday.
Evans On Board Through 2014
One week after winning his first Tour title, Evans has extended his contract through the 2014 season. Hincapie has extended for the 2012 season, Ochowicz said, after tying the Tour's participation record with 16 appearances. "Having these two return to the BMC Racing Team next year allows for our continued growth by having our two captains stay on board to provide leadership and mentoring to others in our organization," Ochowicz said. "In George's case, we need him to help the young guys like Taylor Phinney and Greg Van Avermaet keep developing. For everyone else, he creates leadership in the classics and at the Tour de France." Future announcements regarding BMC Racing Team rider extensions and acquisitions will be announced at the appropriate time, Ochowicz said.
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• spendthrift •
Pronunciation: spen-thrift • Hear it!
Part of Speech: Noun
Meaning: A financial wastrel, a person who wastes money, spends money prodigiously and wastefully.
Notes: Today's Good Word seems to be an oxymoron comprising a contradiction of terms. How can you be thrifty and spend, too? Today's Word History explains. In the meantime, you may use the adjective, spendthrifty and either noun, spendthriftiness or spendthriftism, even though you don't hear these derivations very often.
In Play: Drawing the line between generosity and spendthriftiness can be difficult: "Owen Cash is such a spendthrift, he took Alison out to a $500 dinner!" More commonly, though, that line is clear: "M. T. Banks ran through all his inheritance like a spendthrift on a mission."
Word History: How did two such oxymoronic words as spend and thrift manage to join up in a word meaning "a financial wastrel"? This word first appeared in print in the first decade of the 17th century. At that time the meaning of thrift was "savings, net worth, wealth", a meaning still alive today in the phrase thrift institutions (savings and loan associations). Someone who spends that kind of thrift for no good reason foolishly risks his or her future, hence the pejorative connotation of spendthrift. Thrift was originally the noun of the verb thrive, as gift is a noun from give. Like gift, the meaning of thrift floated away from the meaning of the verb it was historically derived from. (Today we must thank Gary Parnham of Boston for spending the time it took to add to our lexical thrift by suggesting today's odd little word.)
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I find myself pausing when I run across this word, asking whether it means miser or wastrel. I guess it's the oxymoronic quality that does it. Nonsensically, I tell myself it can't be miser, because we already have one word for that, i. e. miser. Of course we also have tightwad, skinflint, and others, but the technique works for me.
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I wonder if a change in language would help the entire financial situation. What if we were again to speak of thrift banks, instead of savings banks? Using different words has been known to induce changes to attitudes, no?
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Not to go political here, but some have changed "welfare" to "entitlements."
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Speaking of the oxymoronic or paradoxical quality of "spendthrift," central government economic planners in China today are confronted with the Paradox of Thrift; "while individual thrift is generally averred to be good for the economy, the paradox of thrift holds that collective thrift may be bad for the economy." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_thrift)
Because the Chinese save rather than spend their domestic ecomony suffers, and their overall economy comes to depend too much on exports. But if there were more spendthrifts... Time to empty those cash-filled mattresses, I guess.
Because the Chinese save rather than spend their domestic ecomony suffers, and their overall economy comes to depend too much on exports. But if there were more spendthrifts... Time to empty those cash-filled mattresses, I guess.
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Mikkelson, Labrie return to Lightning after conditioning assignments
Tampa Bay Lightning defenseman Brendan Mikkelson and right wing Pierre-Cedric Labrie downplayed the effect they had for AHL Syracuse during their two-week conditioning assignments. That said, the Crunch won all seven games in which they played.
"That's a pretty good team down there," Mikkelson said. "They're a close group of guys. That wins them a few games. (Coach Jon Cooper) does a great job of creating that team-like environment that is so positive. That was good."
Mikkelson and Labrie are back with Tampa Bay as they would have had to clear waivers to remain with Syracuse beyond the two weeks of the assignment. With Sami Salo out because of a lower-body injury, Mikelson will play tonight against the Rangers at Madison Square Garden. It is believed Labrie, a scratch tonight, will see the ice Saturday at Boston.
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setrofim wrote:Use "while True:" rather than "while 1:"; this ain't C.
I have never understood why some people take issue with this. All but the most novice python programmers understand that while 1 is an infinite loop, and I have never personally felt it to be ugly.
I have always thought that the fact that every python object can be resolved to true or false actually lent itself to these types of things.
Most people generally write:
- Code: Select all
while myvariable:
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while myvariable == True
I understand we have the "Explicit is better than implicit," maxim, but I have, as I said, always felt while 1 was more than obvious enough.
Just wondering why some people hold to this.


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Deputies said 32-year-old Avril Giovannie was arrested and charged with aggravated child abuse with a weapon.
The incident happened on Friday around 5:15 p.m. after deputies said a child was found running on the street with no clothes on.
Deputies did not identify how old the child was, but said they saw bruises, scratch marks and blood on the left hand. Deputies also noticed a possible arm fracture.
A witness saw the child crossing the street and crying with no clothing on. Deputies said witnesses gave the child a shirt to put on while 911 was called.
Upon further questioning, deputies found out the child was told by Giovannie to get in the house after becoming upset with the child.
Deputies said Giovannie told the child to take a bath, and while naked in the bathtub, she started beating the child with a stick on the arms, leg and back.
The child was able to sneak out of the house and ran looking for help, said deputies.
Deputies went to the home and found a broken toilet plunger which was taken into evidence.
Giovannie denied hitting the child.
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If I make changes to any of the pages of my web site[1], in order for me to see the change, I have to press Ctrl-F5 to force a reload. Simply pressing F5 (or clicking the Reload button) will refresh the page, but it doesn't go back to the server to get the updated HTML. The pages are all static HTML.
Other users have reported similar problems, some using Firefox, some using IE (both IE7 and IE8).
Any ideas?
[1] http://raleighlittletheatre.org
Are you sure this is different to how other websites behave?As far as I know it's up to the browser how it handles the refresh button and F5 in the browser.
You can send different headers when you serve pages to control caching but I don't believe you want to force it or make your pages expire quickly. Here's the first google results that came up on the topic.http://www.web-caching.com/mnot_tutorial/how.html
I generally just accept how the cache works in the browser - if you are releasing things like news articles each day you may want to make those pages expire after a time - but that would be an exception.
That's the difference between F5 and ctrl-F5 with most browsers.
F5 = refresh the page from the cache so as to restore it back the way it was before any JavaScript applied changes.
ctrl-F5 = reload the page from the server ot pick up any changes made to the page source.
Thanks. That's what I thought, however one user reported that they were still seeing old information on the home page, and it turned out to be several weeks old, even though they'd visited the page several times over that time, and I had made several changes to the home page in that time. Very odd. I don't recall having this problem except in the past few months. David.
It partly depends on browser settings as to how long browsers keep cached copies of pages before they discard them and look for updates from the site.
It can also depend on ISP caching since some ISPs cache pages that their users access regularly so as to save their having to constantly retrieve the pages and so provide faster access (which may not be completely up to date for a while after the page is changed).
The headers you pass with the page can also advise as to how long you expect the information in the page to be current for.
Stephen, here's a related question: in Opera, when I try to refresh a page stored on my computer, neither F5 nor Ctrl+F5 does the trick. Any idea why?
David, I've seen some productions at Raleigh's Little Theater. You guys do good work. But your dropdown nav doesn't work for me in Opera.
Max that's because F5 and Ctrl+F5 (Reload) have the same effect in Opera.
I would purge your temporary files and try again (Opera does have a few weird caching quirks IMO).
You shall Configure your browser not to get cache from your website,
Hope this is helping,
Thanks for all the replies. Yes clearing the cache certainly does the job but many visitors of my site have this problem, so that's not a viable solution. In some instances, the page they were seeing was weeks old.
I think this particular site of mine has an unusual problem with caching. As I said in my first post, on this site of mine [1], when I make a change to the page, pressing F5 doesn't reload the page from the server, so I don't see the change. However on another site of mine [2] also static HTML pages, if I make a change, then press F5, the page IS reloaded from the server and I see the updated page. So clearly something is broken with my first site [1].
I read through the link that markbrown4 gave me (above) to see what can be done to force an update. I've tried various settings in my .htaccess file and using the Live HTTP Headers plugin in FF, I can see that these settings are being picked up, but it is as if they are being ignored. Here are the things I added to the .htaccess file:
<FilesMatch "\.(ico|pdf|flv|jpg|jpeg|png|gif|js|css|swf)$">Header set Cache-Control "max-age=172800, must-revalidate"</FilesMatch>
<FilesMatch "\.(html|htm|xml)$">Header set Cache-Control "max-age=3600, must-revalidate"</FilesMatch>
Even waiting an hour or more, if I press F5 still doesn't reload the page from the server, as I expected it to do.
Pressing F5 should reload the page from the server as it does on other web sites including my site [2], but for some reason, F5 doesn't work on [1] (and I'm sure it used to, btw). There must be something on the server end, but I can't figure out what.
[1] http://raleighlittletheatre.org[2] http://baretheatre.org
Max, Thanks for the pointer to Opera not working on the RLT site. I guess I need to install that and see what happens. Any particular version or OS?
Any more suggestions as to what I can do to solve this problem? There is definitely something broken with the raleighlittletheatre.org site. If I make changes to a page, then the only way I can see those changes straight away is to press Ctrl-F5. If I make a similar change to a page on on my other site, baretheatre.org, pressing F5 will show the latest (or the updated page will just appear when I go there). I don't need to press Ctrl-F5.
My big concern is that most of my users aren't aware of the Ctrl-F5 option, so they just don't see the changes I make in a timely fashion.
OK the problem has been solved. I was able to have my problem escalated to my hosting company's senior admin and he looked into the problem. It turned out that FileETag was incorrectly enabled on the server where my site [1] was hosted. This apparently resulted in files been cached incorrectly. My other side [2] on a different server already had this setting disabled so it wasn't seeing the same problem.
BTW, I was also able to workaround the problem by adding the following line to my .htaccess file but I felt this was only temporary since it eliminated all caching.
Header set Cache-Control: "no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, pre-check=0, post-check=0, max-age=0"