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Intel's X25-V & Kingston's 30GB SSDNow V Series: Battle of the $125 SSDsby Anand Lal Shimpi on 3/19/2010 12:00 AM EST
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jed22281 - Saturday, March 27, 2010 - linkGiven it's in a similar size category...
Shouldn't the 50GB OWC Mercury Extreme be included in this?
Or is it only allowed to sit in X25-M territory?
Is that the only other competitor for the Mercury Extreme?
If true...
In which scenario/s might one pick the Extreme over the X25-M?
Thank-you! Reply
thllxb - Saturday, March 27, 2010 - linkI actually bought one intel-v 40g and i got the shipment today. The sequential read is very good, 190mb/s with nvidia SATA controller driver and 170mb/s with win7 driver. However, the random read speed is only 22mb/s with both drivers, much lower than the test result 60mb/s. I still need to find out why. Reply
jed22281 - Friday, March 26, 2010 - linkGiven it's in a similar size category...
Shouldn't the 50GB OWC Mercury Extreme be included in this?
Or is it only allowed to sit in X25-M territory?
Is that the only other competitor for the Mercury Extreme?
If true...
In which scenario/s might one pick the Extreme over the X25-M?
Thank-you! Reply
jed22281 - Thursday, March 25, 2010 - link^^^ anyone? thank-you! Reply
jed22281 - Thursday, March 25, 2010 - link^^^ anyone? thank-you! Reply
jed22281 - Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - linkGiven it's in a similar size category...
Shouldn't the 50GB OWC Mercury Extreme be included in this?
Or is it only allowed to sit in X25-M territory?
Is that the only other competitor for the Mercury Extreme?
If true...
In which scenario/s might one pick the Extreme over the X25-M?
Thank-you! Reply
NandFlashGuy - Sunday, March 21, 2010 - linkHi Anand,
I think it's misleading that you continue using the phrase "IMFT Nand". This gives the impression that all IMFT Nand is equivalent.
IMFT does not sell Nand -- they are the just legal way that Micron and Intel can share the cost of manufacturing Nand together. Each parent company has the ability to define their own litho process or their own test strategies.
This means that the Nand on the X-25 series is "Intel Nand", not IMFT or Micron Nand. Moreover, the Nand on the X-25 series receives much more extensive testing than what is sold to the removable memory market. Reply
chuckbam - Saturday, March 20, 2010 - linkBecause of the growth size of the winsxs folder, I think 40GBs are to small for a boot drive. Reply
sdsdv10 - Sunday, March 21, 2010 - linkThat might be the case for you, but not for everyone. I just upgraded my father-in-law's PC with one of the Intel 40GB SSD and a 250GB regular HD for data storage. Installation of Windows 7 Home Premium left just under 23GB of usable space. Besides IE, the only other thing he needed was Office 2003 (this took less than 350MB total). Still had 22GB of space left. It boots up very quick and opening programs in very fast (nearly instantaneous). A nice improvement over the previous incarnation with XP on a regular 7200rpm HD. Reply
JimmiG - Saturday, March 20, 2010 - link28 or 37GB is definitely too small for me. If you're going to buy a SSD to speed things up, there must be enough space on it to actually install some stuff on it to speed up. If you can only speed up a few percent of your disk operations, it's pretty pointless.
60GB would be the minimum for me, preferably 80+ GB. 30GB is barely enough for Win7 itself *or* a couple of games. I'm using 410GB on my "Applications" drive, the one that contains the OS and games and programs I use (almost no user data like movies or pictures). Reply
AnnonymousCoward - Monday, March 22, 2010 - link410GB for apps, are you insane? The only way I can see that possible is if you store every warez app out there.
Even my bloated work machine only uses 21.3GB. Reply
davepermen - Saturday, March 20, 2010 - linktell that to our work systems which have all sort of apps on + os (+office, sap, and many other things) and all have only a c:\ drive.
it's perfectly doable. not for everyone (esp. not for gamers), but for more than people might imagine. Reply
iwodo - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkWhile the idea of $125 for 80GB Intel SSD is nice, but if we dont get any performance improvement over current Gen then market might wait again.
ONFi 2.0 / 2.2?
Faster Random Read / Write?
I really hope we get new Intel SSD controller. Reply
Japunie - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkI'd like to see some benchmarks showing time saved. That's my main issue with a benchmark. Most show a higher number, but don't exactly show yo uhow much time your saving.
Gaming benchmarks are self-explanatory but I would love to see more benchmarks showing the time difference as that to me is the ultimate reason to upgrade not just to have the fastest card, what have you. Reply
semo - Sunday, March 21, 2010 - linki'm for more real world testing. fot consumer sata drives stuff like startup times and virus scans. for eneterprise sas drives i want to see exchange, sql, etc performance numbers. Reply
AnnonymousCoward - Saturday, March 20, 2010 - linkYou're absolutely correct. I've posted this 3 times and emailed Anand directly, but he continues to ignore it.
There's no question that he's dead wrong to not address the single thing that matters with hard drives: time. Without it you can't see how significant the difference between drives are, the AnandTech Storage Bench doesn't mean squat since drives like the SandForce use compression, and hard drives have a long history of performing differently in benchmarks vs real life. For proof of those last two points, check out http://tinyurl.com/yamfwmg">http://tinyurl.com/yamfwmg where RAID0 bought 20-40% more IOPS but zero load time.
The only SSD time benchmarks I know of here are Pages 29 and 30 of the very first review http://tinyurl.com/yd73sf8">http://tinyurl.com/yd73sf8. Whuddayaknow, the Vertex boots up 1.2s slower than the X25-M, and loads WoW realms 1.4s slower. How about that, something tangible and meaningful to compare. Reply
Belard - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkDon't they usually?
The kinds of numbers that are easy to understand:
- Win7 boot time (after POST is preferred, but whatever)
- Loading of a game, loading of a game while doing a background task.
- virus scan
- Loading and saving a large file in Photoshop or Excel.
- Win7 Shutdown time.
- Win7 Wake up (perhaps to quick).
My own experience with Win7 and the intel X25-M-G2
Win7 boot:
1m25s = Temp 160GB HD SATA (not a fast drive)
0m09s = Intel SSD (same computer)
0m35s = Another PC with a typical 500GB 7200RPM drive.
Belard - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkAll the Sandforce drives are near the top, in general.
But I'm not really seeing those drives out in the market? What are those prices like.
I have my experience with intels X25 G2 drives and they still seems to offer the best overall deal. Reliability, TRIM and price (now). The 80GB G2 is down to around $200... so spend an extra $80 and double the space to work with and vastly improve the performance over any of those drives.
A typical Win7 setup with NO user data is about 15GB, which mine is with various Adobe programs, 3 browsers, Office suite and dozens of add-ons. So a 30GB is barely enough for future usage. 40GB is fine, but the performance needs to be better IMHO in order for it to be an excellent desktop boot drive. In one of our desktops in an office, Win7 boots up about 8~10 seconds after POST. Everything is instant.
Scalptrash - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkLess expensive, better specs. Hmmm... Reply
Ijiwaru - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linknewegg lists the 30GB at 89.99 standalone and 114.99(84.99 after MIR) for the kit.
buy has the kit at 78.95 after MIR
amazon has the kit at 111.11
Taft12 - Saturday, March 20, 2010 - linkThe pricing changes every couple of minutes, what do you want?
UPDATE 13: Zipzoomfly now has the Kingston drive for $84.77 beating Newegg's $84.99 Reply
hybrid2d4x4 - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkAnand, in future SSD reviews, can you bring back the power consumption figures? Or maybe dedicate a short article that sums up the current lineup? I remember an article on Tom's which showed a huge amount of variance among 1st gen SSDs (with some being worse than "green" 3.5" HDDs) and am wondering how the current ones are versus a 2.5" laptop drive (ie: what impact a SSD swap will have on battery life). Reply
7Enigma - Saturday, March 20, 2010 - linkAgreed. I would be interested to see these figures as well. Doesn't really matter for a desktop setting but for a laptop replacement/upgrade it can be helpful. Reply
qwertymac93 - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkso what your saying is...sandforce wins! Im kidding of course, but i think 30 gigs is too small, and the intel 40gig is too slow. too bad a 50 gig sandforce costs $250! o_O Reply
mpx - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkIf I had a small SSD, then I'd definitely use it as a cache, rather than as a boot drive. There are 2 popular solutions: ReadyBoost integrated in Windows 7, which supports up to 32GB of storage, matching these drives. There's also external program called ReadyBoost that can work with Window XP or Windows Server version.
Nomgle - Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - linkReadyBoost only caches Reads, and would be utterly useless in this scenario.
As noted in the article, the "correct" way to use a small SSD is to install your OS directly onto it - use an additional mechanical drive as your main data store. Reply
rivethead - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkI guess I consider myself lucky that I purchased a Kingston SSDNow 40GB drive from Buy.com for $89. This was just eight weeks ago.
A few hours of research and tweaking and a few aspirin later I was able to upgrade the firmware to the Intel firmware and enable TRIM.
So a big middle finger to you Intel. Reply
Drakino - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkDoes the Intel drive adhere to connector location for 3.5 inch drives when mounted in the bracket? IE, can I toss the 2.5 inch drive onto the bracket, then mount the bracket in the drive carriers of a Mac Pro and plug it in?
Western Digital failed this test with their initial release of the Velociraptor, only later coming out with a "Hot swappable" 3.5 inch form factor drive that adhered to SATA standards. Reply
somedude1234 - Sunday, March 21, 2010 - linkI've been looking for a similar solution. Two similar items:
Addonics Snap-In 25
Icy Dock MB882SP-1S-1B
Unfortunately, it looks like both of them use a separate PCB, which could possibly lead to connection problems.
I was looking for a dead-simple bracket that would offset the 2.5" drive to the proper location within a 3.5" drive space. The only candidate I've found so far is this:
Supermicro MCP-220-00043-0N
The pictures all show the complete Supermicro 3.5" hotswap carrier, including the metal bracket which properly places the 2.5" drive in the 3.5" drive space. It looks like the bracket is screw-mounted within the 3.5" carrier. I suspect that the MCP-220-00043-0N model number is actually for only the metal bracket and that the 3.5" hotswap carrier is simply shown for illustration. However, it's possible that they include both the bracket and the carrier. In that case, you could just remove the bracket and toss the carrier. Reply
Nomgle - Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - linkThe Icy Dock MB882SP-1S-2B and MB882SP-1S-1B work just fine to convert a 2.5" drive to a 3.5" form-factor, whilst keeping the SATA connectors in the right place -http://www.icydock.com/product/mb882sp-1s-2b.html">http://www.icydock.com/product/mb882sp-1s-2b.html and http://www.icydock.com/product/mb882sp-1s-1.html">http://www.icydock.com/product/mb882sp-1s-1.html Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkNo, unfortunately it looks like the bracket keeps the drive centered, which positions the SATA connectors too far to the middle to work properly in 3.5" carriers like what Apple uses for the Mac Pro.
Take care,
Anand Reply
Drakino - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkThanks for the response. If you can pass some feedback to the manufacturers, can you let them know this is one of the big reasons I haven't jumped on a SSD yet? A SATA compliant 3.5 inch solution would be appreciated by those of us using cableless drive setups. I know HP shipped a few VoodooPC gaming rigs with similar drive bays.
I'm still really tempted to pick one of these up, but not sure how I can get it in my system without just dangling the drive on the connector. Reply
Nomgle - Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - linkSee below - Icy Dock make two adaptors that'll fit your Mac Pro just fine :) Reply
vol7ron - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkAnand,
Though I'm still operating almost all my machines on XP, I thought you said you were going to start doing all your benchmarks in Win7.
I appreciate doing both in this example, but that's got to be a lot of time spent doing it on multiple machines.
This article really interests me when thinking about building an HTPC. I know I'll need a lot of storage space - I hope to have 4TB worth - but having a quick, speedy, small drive would be a loading dream. Thanks for the review. Reply
Itomerou - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkI really enjoyed the article and am always impressed with the level of detail that is done when testing and comparing components. However, the only problem with this article is that when comparing queue depth and light/heavy workload averaging the results provides no value in so far as the distribution of IOPS is not normally distributed. Additionally, the fact that these drives are completely different in their drivers and priority addressing of queue requests to say that one drive is able to server requests faster depends on the fact that measurement of requests served fits the drives exact distribution of requests served. This is apparent with the charts of how each drive performs for sequential and random access. Finally, in order to make substantial claims confidence intervals must also be constructed otherwise how accurate are the results?
On the otherhand I am still intrigued with the findings. Reply
Zelog - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkLook at the size of the kingston, it's tiny! Now you don't even need dedicated 2.5" space for the drive, making the htpc/laptop/net book even smaller. It is definitely worth its price in the right settings. Reply
GeorgeH - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkThat was my first thought, but with a slightly different angle. If Kingston made a custom form factor you could extend laptops with dual storage below ~15". In something like the M11x you could have one of these as a fast boot drive while using a big and slow HDD with aggressive power management to get more storage, faster storage, and longer battery life.
(Yes, I'm aware of mini-PCIe (and other custom connection) SSDs for netbooks and other SFF devices, but the performance there is terrible.) Reply
Shadowmaster625 - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkEntry level is not $125. $125 is not "cheap" or "inexpensive". Reply
davepermen - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkit's a cheap and inexpensive SSD, and definitely the most entry level ssd existing.
and yeah, if you buy an entry level desktop (not an atom), you easily pay several 100$. investing 100 more to make it perform 'really fast', is the most cheap and inexpensive way to make it perform much better.
how would YOU invest that amount of money to boost up your pc? (laptops are a different story because there storage matters actually, in a pc, just let the old hdd be plugged in too) Reply
casteve - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkThe OCZ 30GB Agility @ $119 wins the entry level contest over these two. $99 after MIR at newegg. Reply
davepermen - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linktechnically, still more expensive than the intel 40gb at 125$ (per gb), but yeah, others than just kingston and intel should be listed.
still i'm glad for the 33% more storage :) Reply
buzznut - Monday, March 22, 2010 - linkYeah, this is the decision I made when buying my 40gig. With a win7 install those 10gb make a huge difference. For an entry level SSD, I would recommend the Intel over the OCZ despite some performance differences. Especially when it comes to gaming.
Choosing between the Kingston drive and Intel at the time was a no-brainer.
However I would/will look at OCZ vertex series when going to 60GB or higher capacity. Reply
mmntech - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkIt's progress in the right direction though. Wasn't long ago when these small drives were $200-$300. Still, I'm going to wait until 80gb SSDs drop to around that price. More breathing room. Still way too small for laptop use too. Reply
vol7ron - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkI'd like to see the 80GB/160GBs fall in price too. Once they do, I'll consume =] Reply
MadMan007 - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkWhen you talk about capacities in the chart on page 4 I take it the formatted capacity is in gigabytes (GB) and not gibibytes (GiB). So on top of reserved flash there is also the GB-GiB conversion to account for? Reply
gaspard - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkHarddrives are measured in Gigabytes (1 billion bytes), Operating systems (Windows for example) usually measure in Gibibytes... aka 1024 times 1024 times 1024 = 1,073,741,824 bytes
MadMan007 - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkThanks bro but that didn't add or clarify anything about my question. The fact that HDs use GB and OSes use GiB was implicit background knowledge for my post. I see Jarrod made a guess but I'd still be interested to know whether the chart on page 4 for formatted capacities especially and others just for funsies is in GB or GiB. Reply
JarredWalton - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkAnd flash chips are generally measured in GiB as well (or at least, the chips come in powers of 2). I think part of this is SSD makers figure they'll use the GiB vs. GB difference to make up for their spare area. So you can have 7.3% spare area and your 40GiB SSD ends up formatting to the same size as a 40GB HDD. Just a thought. Reply
GullLars - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkThis was a good test, and one i've been waiting for a while. I'm a bit disappointed a 32GB Indilinx Barefoot drive wasn't included. I have a 30GB Vertex in my laptop that performs better sequentailly than these numbers, and has better random performance than the Kingston V 30GB. The price is slightly higher though.
Ref screenshot: http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?app=core&mod...">http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?app=c...h_rel_mo... CDM 3.0 + WEI for my laptop.
Now the next thing I hope Anandtech will do regarding SSDs is a comparison of RAID of low-capasity cheap SSDs VS single high capasity SSDs. This is something no other reckognized tech site has done yet, but enthusiasts have done for years now. Example: http://www.nextlevelhardware.com/storage/battleshi...">http://www.nextlevelhardware.com/storage/battleshi...
I'll also mention Nizzen, an enthusiast on a forum i frequent, who set a WR i PCmark vantage last spring with his 24/7 setup, and is still on top5 with the same setup (updated in august with 4GB RAM on the Areca). The key was an Areca 1680ix-12 with a RAID-0 of several (7 i think) OCZ Vertex.
ORB result page: http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.act...">http://service.futuremark.com/resultCom...sultId=2...
24740 PCmarks, WAY ahead of the highest score in your benchmark lists. The same level of disk performance is possible to get with an LSI 9211-8i with 8 30-40GB SSDs in RAID-0 for about $1000 (less than 2 256GB SSDs).
Suggested lineup for such an article: RAID-0 of 4 Kingston V 30GB, Intel x25-V, and Indilinx Barefoot 32GB (Vertex?). 2 RAID-0 SF-1200/1500 50GB, Kingston SSDNow V+ 64GB, Indilinx Barefoot 64GB, Intel x25-M 80GB. And single 100/128/160 GB SSDs of various controllers.
Regarding performance degrading in RAID whitout TRIM, increased reserved area can help negate the performance degrading (Ref IDF whitepaper on spare area). Increasing the spare area to ~20-25% from the default 7% (on most SSDs) will make sure degrading will not be noticable by users in normale usage models. Reply
strikeback03 - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkSo how much faster were program loads and other useful things with that super RAID array? Reply
Taft12 - Saturday, March 20, 2010 - linkA few hundredths of a second - $1000 well spent!!! Reply
semo - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkwow am i seeing <2mb/s sequential write speed on those drives? it must be an error i'm pretty sure that SD cards can do better than that Reply
samspqr - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkthere's a 4 on the other side of the axis: it's 41mb/s Reply
QChronoD - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkThat is annoying...
Hey Anand (or TWIMC)
Isn't there a way for your pretty graph program to move the text to right of the bar if there isn't enough room for the label to fit? It's really annoying when you can't read half of the results because the super long product names are compressing the graph... Reply
icrf - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkAgreed, it is pretty annoying. What is used to generate these graphs? A third party tool or something in house? What language/what tool? Reply
Taft12 - Saturday, March 20, 2010 - linkI remember one of the other regular contributers mentioning that getting the graphs to look nice is not trivial, and I've had the same experience trying to accomplish the same.
Of course, if the bar is so small you can't see the number, it doesn't really matter what the number is, the result is dismal. Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkIt's an automated system that unfortunately doesn't handle that case very well. We're launching the new site in a few weeks and we'll be updating the graph styles as well, so I'm going to try to get that fix in there :)
Take care,
Anand Reply
fless - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkYou can change the location of those labels in swiff chart pro. Right click on the number then select single label. You're too lazy. Reply
samspqr - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkhi
some time ago, 3dprofessor found that swapping a standard HDD for a WD velociraptor increased rendering performance by a sizeable 10%
in fact, I'm pretty sure in the core2 times they got much bigger improvements on a dual-socket board, but I can't find that review anymore
you also do rendering tests on your CPU reviews
could you test rendering performance of some standard 7200 drive, vs the velociraptor, vs a low-end SSD, vs a high end SSD? with your new gulftown, perhaps?
thanks Reply
AnnonymousCoward - Saturday, March 20, 2010 - linkAnand stopped benchmarking SSDs in ways that pertain to real life long ago. http://tinyurl.com/ylflfao">http://tinyurl.com/ylflfao Reply
samspqr - Monday, March 22, 2010 - linkI agree with your posts on the other thread: I don't care about IOPS, just like getting more points in a benchmark won't make me happy by itself
I'm totally in the dark with respect to SSDs so far; with things as they are now, I guess I'll have to wait till I get my hands on one of them and can do my own testing (general feeling, then 3D rendering, video editing and encoding) Reply
Taft12 - Saturday, March 20, 2010 - linkRendering performance is not really an important bechnchmark for a general desktop computing website such as this. Reply
samspqr - Monday, March 22, 2010 - linkwell, if it is in the CPU reviews, then it could be here too, coudn't it? at least if they found out that there's some difference, which is why I'm asking Reply
samspqr - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkhere it is:
they halved the rendering times by moving from a Western Digital 1TB RE-2 to a velociraptor, on a dual QX9775 board Reply
soltari - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkThe kingston (intel) 40gb bootdrive was an awesome drive while it lasted. Mine actually did arrive last december with trim firmware on it, to my pleasant surprise. However after it died after purring along for 10 days and faced with no replacement possibility due to intel now wanting to sell only their identical more expensive drives i had to get a new one and for sure wasnt going to pay 35 dollars more to get the same drive back. An OCZ vertex 60gb is doing the purring now without issues.
still the small SSD drive to run your O.S. from is an amazing improvement to overall performance. For this these new small cheap drives are great. Reply
davepermen - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkI use the X25-V in a Media Center setup (all actual data over the (gb) network). the -V delivers absolutely stunning performance, resulting in a fast to boot, very snappy system. and it has enough spare space for recording tv before it gets shifted to the winhome server.
i could never get the kingston solution when seeing it's random performances. it's imho the main thing that makes an ssd feel fast. the media center is always "there", always "reacting". and even while the 40MB/s write speed is slow, the fact that it delivers nearly constant 40MB/s no matter if it's sequencial or random does it still perform quite fast (faster than hdds) in most real life cases (like installing the os).
i'm happy to get 10GB more space for the same price (a big thing in such low-storage devices), and i'm happy to get the overall more snappy and responsive performance.
for me, it's Intel: 1, Kingston: 0. Reply
Shadowmaster625 - Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - linkJust like anand, here is another example of mindless intel worship.
1. They arent the same price. One is 30% cheaper.
2. For media center applications, either would work perfectly fine, so obviously you dont know what you're talking about. Reply
dagamer34 - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkSo definite improvement when using an SSD in media center? I've been meaning to get one, but didn't think that my primary apps could fit in 40GB. Seems a bit small. Reply
buzznut - Monday, March 22, 2010 - linkIt depends on your install. You can easily get a win7 installation down to 10 gigs by turning things off like system restore, page file, and hibernation.
I use the 40GB Intel drive and have Win7 pro, Office, flash, and any number of small productivity apps plus Heroes V with all the expansions. 15GB free atm, plenty of room to add PowerDVD and whatnot. Reply
kmmatney - Friday, March 19, 2010 - link" You gain better sequential performance and concurrent IOPS, but you have no way to actively curb performance degradation. "
Can you schedule the SSD Toolbox to perform a manual TRIM. WOuldn't be so bad then - set it to run once a week and forget about it.
I have to say, Intel wins this round, easily. The Kingston would have had to perform much better to make up for the smaller drive size. I would expect that the Kingston will have to come down in price to remain competitive. Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkThe SSD Toolbox won't work on RAID volumes unfortunately.
Take care,
Anand Reply
buzznut - Monday, March 22, 2010 - linkThanks Anand for clarifying the raid and SSD toolbox issues. I can see now that adding a second 40 GB drive will not be a good idea and I should save for a larger capacity.
I am very interested in knowing when Intel gets trim working for raid! Good to know I can count on Anandtech for the latest SSD news. Thanks again, Scott
pkoi - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkThe difference between 30gb and 40gb is HUGE,,, I would need 50 to swap my bloated win7 Reply
inighthawki - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkI have a 30GB partition for Win7 and still have 8GB left, and that's after some pretty careless space management. I don't understand how yours can be so bloated. You're not counting things like program files, are you? You're aware that the users and program files folders aren't part of your windows installation, right? Reply
gerstena - Friday, March 19, 2010 - link"I have a 30GB partition for Win7 and still have 8GB left, and that's after some pretty careless space management."
Unfortunately things like volume shadow services and the source files of windows updates quickly eat up the space. A lot of users won't know about these things.
The only thing I have found drives under 60 GB useful for are speeding up database operations and development.
hoohoo - Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - linkI have 8 GB for OpenSuSE 11.2 and still have 3 GB free.
I dunno about Windows bloat - yours or the other guy's! Reply
davepermen - Friday, March 19, 2010 - linkI need one. it would be enough for 3 windows 7.
no clue how bloated yours is :) Reply
loimlo - Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - linkDear Anand
Your nice review of Kingston indeed encouraged me to purchase Kingston 64GB SSD for my win7 system, but your TRIM comment just kept my purchase impulse at bay. Would you mind clarifying the TRIM situation in the future? If nothing wrong with TRIM implementation on Kingston SSD, I'll buy bigger brother, 64GB SSD, for my system immediately!
Thanks Reply


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JCR, published annually by Thomson Reuters, seeks to objectively measure an academic journal's importance to the research community by tracking the number of citations each article receives. The impact factor of a journal is essentially calculated as the number of citations in a given year to articles published in the journal in the previous two years, divided by the total number of those articles.
Two other measures, in which PRX also ranks in the top ten among broad-scope physics journals, reinforce the fact that PRX is having an impact throughout the physics community. JCR gave PRX a high score of 2.225 in its "immediacy index," which indicates how quickly work published in a journal is disseminated and cited.
In addition, another organization that tracks academic journal influence, Eigenfactor, gave PRX high marks for a journal of its size. Their "article influence" metric is similar to an impact factor, but attributes more weight to the highly cited journals while it controls for self-citations and for journal size. Eigenfactor gave PRX an article influence score of 5.001.
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Launched in 2011, PRX is an online-only author pays open access journal, featuring research from all physics disciplines. It is one of three APS journals that are entirely open access. The rest are hybrid journals that include some open access content. In the same report, Reviews of Modern Physics received an impact factor of 44.982 while Physical Review Letters came in at 7.943 (both published by APS).
More information about the impact factor, and a discussion of the pros and cons of using it as a measure of significance, can be found in Wikipedia under "Impact Factor", and in E. Garfield, "The history and meaning of the journal impact factor", J. Amer. Med. Assoc. 295, 90 (2006)."
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The word Maropeng is Setswana for 'return to your origins'.
At Maropeng Visitor Centre you will journey back in time from the start of our universe, some 14-billion years ago, to the present and beyond.
Inside the tumulus building, you'll find fun, interactive displays that could keep you occupied for a morning or even a whole day, whilst serving up plenty of food for thought about our future in the 21st century and beyond.
Maropeng is the official visitors' centre for the Cradle of Humankind, a World Heritage Site within easy striking distance of Johannesburg and Pretoria. Its name means 'return to the place of origin' in Setswana, one of South Africa's 11 official languages
The centre lies on the boundary of a 47 000-hectare area recognised as a World Heritage Site in 1999. More than 1000 hominid fossils and several hominid species have been found in a network of limestone caves here, spanning a period of around 3-million years. Hominids are a family that include humans and their direct ancestors, and the Cradle of Humankind is the richest treasure trove of early hominid fossils on Earth.
There are more than a dozen major fossil sites in the Cradle of Humankid, and as not all these sites are open to the public, the Maropeng centre was developed to provide visitors with an overview of the significance of the area as well as the story of human development.
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Once inside, your tour will start with a boat ride on an artificial lake (guaranteed to be a hit with kids in particular) before you enter the exhibition area that leads you through highlights of our evolutionary journey.
Here the displays tackle questions among many others about how our brains developed, where language came from, when we first used fire and what the risks are for us as a species in the future.
Finally, you will emerge from the back of the building to a striking view over the rolling hills towards the Magaliesberg, one of the best to be had in Gauteng.
Glance back and you will see the tumulus is now transformed into a futuristic building of glass and steel, a symbol of how far we've come as a species.
Visitor tip. Maropeng has a companion site, the world famous Sterkfontein Caves, where famous fossil discoveries have been made, among them that of 'Mrs Ples' and 'Little Foot', an almost complete Australopithecus skeleton dating back about 3-million years. You can easily visit both the Sterkfontein Caves and Maropeng in a day, and the experiences complement one another. If you want to stay over in the area, there is also a boutique hotel at Maropeng.
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Best buys
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The Philadelphia Folk Festival, one of the longest running and most successful events of its kind in the United States, just celebrated its 40th anniversary. Held every summer in Schwenksville, Pennsylvania, this music festival has evolved from a small, grass roots event into a three-day family-oriented celebration attracting folk music enthusiasts from around the globe. The festival features an amazing list of performers, folk and square dancing, workshops, arts and crafts, and camping. This year's lineup included such stellar artists as Richie Havens, Arlo Guthrie, Tom Rush, Janis Ian, Judy Collins, and David Bromberg, to name just a few.
The Philadelphia Folksong Society, a non-profit educational organization dedicated to the encouragement and enjoyment of folk music and related expressions of folklore, sponsors research, education, therapeutic programs and related publications. Perhaps their most famous and visible activity is the annual summer folk festival.
The acoustic guitar is the key instrument used for virtually all the music performed at the Philadelphia Folk Festival, and America's premiere acoustic guitar maker, The Martin Guitar Company, has always played an important role as collaborator, supporter and sponsor of the festival. This year Martin sponsored the Festival's new main stage that will be used for many years to come.
In honor of the Philadelphia Folk Festival's 40th Anniversary and Martin's long term enthusiastic involvement in and support of this event, Martin is proud to announce the MPFF 40th Anniversary Commemorative Guitar. Designed with folk musicians in mind, the MPFF Limited Edition marks the revival of Martin's "M" Model, a large, thin-bodied studio guitar inspired by the Company's 1930s arch-tops.
Hand crafted entirely of solid woods, the MPFF 40th Anniversary Commemorative Guitar is a 14-fret M model with hybrid scalloped X-bracing. The back and sides are East Indian rosewood, and the top is Engelmann spruce. The neck is solid mahogany, and the African black ebony fingerboard is inlaid with style 42 snowflake pattern with the Philadelphia Folk Festival's banjo logo inlaid in mother of pearl between the 3rd and 5th frets. "Philadelphia Folk Festival" in stylized lettering will be inlaid in mother of pearl between the 18th and 20th frets.
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AN East Lancashire podiatrist has put his best foot forward on the biggest challenge of his life.
Adrian Clark, 48, from Simonstone, is set to complete all 214 peaks in Alfred Wainwright's Pictorial Guide to the Lakeland Fells, which will have taken him eight months.
The dad-of-one, of Beauley Avenue, completed the Wainwright coast to coast walk from St Bees Point to Robin Hood's Bay last year. He is set to take on the final three walks, Middle Fell, Seat Allan and Buck Barrow on Sunday and plans to have a party at the top of the final fell.
By the end of the final day, during which he will be joined by a group of 13 friends, Adrian will have climbed a total of 127,000 feet. He has so far raised more than £1,200 for the RNLI and hopes to boost that this week.
Adrian, who has been a podiatrist at St James' Clinic in Burnley for 25 years, said: "I was inspired by Joss Naylor who completed this challenge in a week in 1986. I've been alone for most of it which has been difficult.
"I wanted to raise money for the RNLI because I spend a lot of time in Moelfre in Wales, where they have a lifeboat station. It's a cause that's very close to my heart and it is currently trying to raise £100,000.
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Gay Seven Points Mayor Joe Dobbs has submitted a letter of resignation after being indicted on criminal charges in connection with an alleged incident at the Cedar Creek Lake city's municipal building on Aug. 16, according to a statement released to Dallas Voice.
Dobbs' life partner, suspended Seven Points police officer Michael Tayem, relayed a prepared statement from the mayor during a brief telephone interview Friday afternoon. Tayem, who also was indicted in connection with the alleged incident, said the mayor could not provide any additional information until he consults with his attorney.
In the statement, Dobbs attributes his legal problems to "retaliation" and anti-gay discrimination.
"The charges appear to be retaliation in response to a criminal offense I reported," Dobbs said in the statement. "We think a lot of it is also related to my being gay. We can't think of any other reason."
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Is there a way to prevent images (and content) from being cached in a user's browser?
(I am asking this from the website's point-of-view and not any settings that a user would set on his/her computer.)
You can tell the browser not to cache pages if you want. Here is a discussion about it:
Why would you want to stop caching...and why is this in Web Security?
Perhaps it follows on from this discussion: http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?868495-IE8-and-Forcing-Cache-Flush
I am working on a project that deals with Online Testing.
My client pays current and retired school teachers to write Test Questions/Answers for a Test-Bank. Any breach of that content would obviously be catastrophic!!
The Test Writers log into my client's web application over a secure connection, and write the Test Materials, which are saved on the server. Once the Test Questions/Answers have been approved, the Test Writer will never be able to see them again.
However, the fear is that a person writing Test Questions/Answers might be working on their Home Computer or a School Computer, and that either their own kids, or their students could easily get access to the Test Materials if the browser were caching (i.e. saving) the Test Pages and Test Images.
Questions/Answers are usually in "Text" format, but there are many cases where they could be in an "Image" format as well (e.g. Mathematical Formulas, Illustrations, Maps, Diagrams, etc).
So, if the Test Writer's computer or browser is somehow saving permanent copies of the Web Pages or Web Images, then that would be a data breach.
Now, I understand the concept that anything you see on the Internet needs to be downloaded onto your computer for viewing - unless it is streaming audio/video. However, I believe there may be ways to make sure that your Operating System or Browser isn't caching hundreds of pages that could be easily retrieved.
For example, not too long ago on Windows you could surf around your C: drive and find copies of old Web Pages and Web Images quite easily. (In fact, this is why I refuse to do Online Banking, because I did a quick test on my old Windows XP machine, and found images of all the cancelled checks?!) :eek:
The debate at work is really centered more around the belief - which I believe is false - that if we use Internet Explorer that all of these issues go away?! :rolleyes:
I'm no expert, but my understanding is that IF anything can be done to stop caching/saving of Web Pages and Web Images, then you should be able to do it for any Browser and Operating System.
(Note, performance isn't an issue here, so if the Web page/Images have to be reloaded every time they are accessed, no big deal.)
BTW, my client assumes that the Test Writers are trustworthy people who are not copying/saving content on their own. (Obviously nothing can prevent that!)
What they are just more concerned about is an un-technically savvy school-teacher hanging his/herself!!
Hope that makes more sense?!
That sounds more like a History question. If I remember correctly, there are ways to eliminate - or prevent - pages from being logged to a browser's history but I'll let you search for them. Because it appears to be a browser-centric question, you will likely have to research each one.
Does anyone else agree with this?
If by history, they mean the browser file cache, yes. If they mean the list of recently visited websites, then no.
As others have suggested, you can send headers to tell the browser not to cache the files.
The original question was about the content storage, if I understand correctly.There is a small technical problem: webmasters commonly used "non-chache" directive while the browser is still able to store the data.
I was asking about either Images or Content being stored on the end user's computer, and thus causing a security risk.
If there is any browser that caches stuff for way to long, it's IE. I've had instances where just clearing the history and restarting the browser wasn't enough, I had to restart the computer completely to rid of IE's cache. This was in ye olden IE6 days mind you, but still.
Anyway, sending Cache-Control headers with the values no-cache, no-store and private (see http://palizine.plynt.com/issues/2008Jul/cache-control-attributes/) for both the document as well as for all the images should do the trick.
And if at all possible, serve over SSL. Most browsers are hesitant to cache anything they download over an SSL connection.
I agree.
But isn't that easy to over-ride?
I mean, couldn't a browser ignore all of that?
And couldn't how a user has his/her browser set up, also over-ride those?
And, couldn't a user manually over-ride those?
Now that is a very good point!! :tup: (I think that is something they could do and would support.)
BTW, backing up for a moment, does my original post make sense about what they are concerned about?
And from a business perspective, just how effective can they be in trying to prevent test material from leaking out? (I guess I see this analogous to banking online from home - or even worse from wok or a public computer - and wanting to make sure that nothing you did or saw ended up stored in an unsecured location. For example, copies of cancelled checks, copies of bank statements, any content that might include personal or banking information, etc.)
Those are actually exact opposite situations since with online banking etc you are at the computer where the files are cached and can therefore tell the browser to clear the cache and no one can prevent it. With the situation you are looking at it is the server trying to prevent caching and the person sitting in front of the browser who has the ability if they know how to override whatever you do and cache the files anyway. As with anything sent to the browser the person using the browser has control.
Possible, yes. Easy, no.
Yes, those headers are only suggestions. A browser can just ignore all of them if they want.
I can't remember ever seeing settings in a browser for this.
An advanced user could side-jack his own connection (if it's not SSL) and change those values, or write a browser extension to change it, yes, but is by no means within the realm of possibilities of the average internet user.
Also, with regards to the images, if you don't show them back to the user after they've uploaded them they will not be stored in the cache, because they've never been downloaded. The bigger problem here is that the image is still on the computer, because that's where it's uploaded from.
This sounds to me like a situation where you can give it your very best to prevent caching, but you can never 100% it.
I'm not sure what you are saying here, and think you may be misunderstanding me about images.
While there could be someone who uploads an image for the test, I don't believe that would be common, since I am pretty sure all of the graphic design stuff happens in house.
However, the person writes the test questions and answers, or the person who approves what the author wrote, would need to see the image, thus it would be downloaded.
For example, let's say there is a math question about a triangle, and along with the test question and answer, there is an image of a right triangle with the length of one side and the two acute angles also noted in the image.
The fear is that the autor or lead who approves things, might be doing so from school or at home, and if an unauthorized person got a hold of the cached webpages/images, then that image or a right triangle might clue them in on how the test is written, or on what a possible question might be.
It could be something even more specific, like a custom map of the U.S. showing certain features (e.g. former territory borders, natural resources, etc.) that could be used on several tests, and again, by having a copy f that image, people could use it to cheat or at least be really prepared for the tests.
I know you have to let viewers of the webpage download the image to view it, but the fear is that the image persists on the user's computer long after they have accessed the image.
For example, an author has permissions on the server side to view a question while it is being authored, but as soon as the lead approves the question and answer as "valid", then that author - who is usually a hired consultant - will never have access to the question again, because for what they are being paid to do, they have no need to go back and see it.
So is Jane Doe writes a test question and answer with an image to support things, then after her test question/answer/image are approved, she shouldn't be seeing it on her computer, which could be at work, at school - if she is a teacher by day - or at home with possibly tons of kids!!
If the content of the test question or answer, or the image get stored on ANYONE'S computer, whether through webpages being stored in temporary locations, or image caching, or something the browser does to temporarily store things, or something the operating system does to temporary store things, then that Test Question/Answer/Image have in essence been "breached"...
Hope that makes sense.
Not sure how that changes your response one the image part?!
I'm going to be honest here. I think you are over thinking the scenarios and making this a lot more complicated then it needs to be. Simplicity is a beautiful thing. The fact of the matter is, having a single image would not compromise a test, having taken quite a bit of test myself. Having part of an image to a math problem is not going to give anything away. Now unless the answer itself was an image? Maybe. Also you brought up a teacher at home with a bunch of kids...who probably won't even be taking the test in the first place? And if they were, I'm sure their mother being a teacher and all will understand the "keep the answers a secret" type thing. As for school computers, the chance of a student have prolong unsupervised access to a teachers account, while not unheard of, snooping in the browsers cache is not a activity I would see them doing. Looking into the cache is not something people thing about.
A few comments...
1.) I am just researching things for work, and relaying what the concerns are.
2.) As a technical person, I am trying to get to the "truth" about what can and cannot be done with the technology (e.g. browser caching, etc.)
3.) These tests go out to MILLIONS of students, so to imply "I'm over-thinking this" or "It's not that big of a risk" would be wrong!!
ScallioXTX's link and suggestion to use HTTPS seems like the best advice so far, but I welcome more thoughts.
Yup, I thought the test creators needed to upload images, but apparently they don't. Not sure where those images come from them but I'm sure you've got something for that


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Meet Mark Zaid
Mark Zaid needs to relax. The 42-year old Washington, D.C.-based attorney spends his days squaring off with the CIA, the Department of Defense and other branches of the United States military and government in high-stakes courtroom battles. He regularly testifies before Congress on issues ranging from war crimes to anthrax, security clearances to government misconduct
After - and sometimes during - his long, stressful days, Mark turns to Bejeweled Blitz on Facebook. For anywhere from a few minutes to a couple of hours, he decompresses over the one-minute sessions of gem-matching magic, still feeding his competitive side by striving to top his friends' high scores along with his own, trying out new strategies and generally forgetting about the pressures of work and life.
"I'd heard of Bejeweled, of course, but never gave it more than a quick try before the Blitz version appeared on Facebook. Now I'm totally hooked," Mark laughs. "It's mesmerizing, relaxing and just enthralling. Blitz is an ideal antidote to my hectic professional and personal life; for 30 to 120 minutes a day I just chill out to the fun and comparatively simple challenge of moving the gems around the board."
Mark's modest description belies his aptitude for the game; he regularly ranks among the best players (out of tens of millions who play Blitz each week) and can often be found at the top of his circle of friends' leader board. Mark used to play hardcore games but no longer has the time - he barely has time for a one-minute game. "I can't afford to become addicted to more than one PopCap game or else I would never get any billable hours performed!"
Mark frequently plays late at night, between midnight and four in the morning. "It really helps me wind down from the frustrating legal work I conduct, challenging various forms of misconduct on the part of the U.S. government," he notes. Beyond just getting away from it all, Mark's motivation is fueled in part by the rivalries that have developed among his Blitz "opponents." "Gordon, one of my fraternity brothers from college, and I are constantly jabbing at each over Blitz, talking smack, trading tips and generally duking it out," Mark smiles. "Then there's cousin David, who HAS to be cheating to get the scores he's attained!" But Mark readily agrees the social side of the game is half the fun. "As with so many aspects of Facebook, playing Bejeweled Blitz has also led to re-connecting with old friends. The appeal stems largely from the fact that the people with whom you're competing are your friends, not strangers on an anonymous leader board in the depths of the Web."
Beyond fighting for the rights of the individual at the highest levels of America's legal system, Mark has been involved in numerous high-profile cases including the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103, the death of princess Diana, the Pentagon's Anthrax Vaccination Immunization Program, and investigations into the assassinations of Presidents John F. Kennedy and Abraham Lincoln. In addition to representing everyone from military veterans to investigative journalists and spies during the work day, Mark's hobbies include buying and selling Golden Age comic books and historic memorabilia. Now, Bejeweled Blitz has been added to his "serious casual pastimes" - and the one that captivates and invigorates him every day.


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Topic: My dad
I wish I was coming on here today to write something powerfully optimistic, unfortunately I am writing with an update that my father passed from CC on Dec. 30th, 2011. Still doesn't feel real.
The hopeful thing that I can write though, if anything, is that we were told he had 3-6 months max when we first found out. He was diagnosed exactly a year before my wedding day. But he stayed with us another 20 months, and he danced with me on my wedding day. And although he kept asking with a smile "are we done yet" throughout the entire dance (gotta love him ) he was 100% strong as if nothing was wrong.
I guess I just felt the need to put that update out there and say that if anyone out there has any questions about what we went through, please don't hesitate to post. I know that when we were going through this, we just wanted to know that from other people.


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When I bought this home in 1990, there was a plum tree out back that was 4 or 5 years old. It produced very few fruits until 1996, when I harvested a bounty of red plums from it. We had plenty of bee pollenators that Spring. Many of those delicious plums went to my neighbors and many went in my own family's tummies.
The next year, that old tree died of a fungus and it sat there for another year until it was cut down. I saved a 4-inch thick limb for possible smoking. Much to my surprise, this wood has excellent sweetness in it's smoke. It leaves a deep red stain when soaked and it is slow to burn on even the hottest coals. It gives T-bones and Porterhouse steaks a rich sweet aroma, works well with chops, and chicken.
For my tastes, it can't be beat. It doesn't "overwhelm" like hickory and is sweeter than cherry. There's not a hint of bitterness in the flavor of the meat, as you might taste using persimmon or oak. I'm surprised that no one has mentioned plum wood on this board as an excellent smoking wood.


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Dave Mueller of Neponset started officiating basketball in 1981, four years out of high school. He worked as many games as he could get, starting out at the junior high level doing boys and girls games. He got his big break serving as a runner for the established crew of Don Brady and Stan Peteson, working the freshmen and sophomore preliminary games.
He parlayed that into a prominent career in stripes, working state finals in two sports, capped by last weekend's induction into the Illinois Basketball Coaches Association Hall of Fame.
The induction was simply the icing on the cake for Mueller.
"It is a nice honor," Mueller said. "When you first start officiating you have to set some goals and work hard to achieve those goals, being inducted into the IBCA is a normally not one of the goals you set. Working the state finals is a goal that you set, so being inducted is a bonus for all the years of hard work to be recognized by the coaches that you have worked for so long."
In 1983, Mueller partnered up with fellow Neponset referee Jon Pickering when he lost his partner. They worked for several years until Pickering retired from basketball in 1998. They remain on the same crew for football.
Mueller sharpened his officiating skills at a college basketball camp in the Quad Cities, where his games were videotaped and critiqued by camp clinicians. That also sparked an interest in working some college basketball. But after a few years of officiating six days a week, he gave up to spend more time at home and attend some of the games his own kids were playing.
He says an official is unable to do his job "without an understanding and supportive family," and he has been fortunate to have both.
In 1999, Mueller picked up Chuck Frail of Kewanee as a partner and has been working with him ever since. Appropriately, Frail joined Mueller for enshrinement Saturday. Along the way, they picked up Al Corwin of Sheffield as their third member of the crew, who worked his first state basketball finals this year.
Mueller, who serves as a basketball clinician for the IHSA, worked his first state basketball finals in 2002. He returned the next year and again in 2007. Mueller said the IHSA has an unwritten rule that you will only work the finals a certain number of times, "and for the longest time it was three and now it may not even be three."
I asked Mueller about any funny stories he's had over the years officiating. He's had the usual assortment of unruly fans and upset coaches, but generally not a lot of problems because of his size.
He said he's had to T some coaches up, once having to escort a coach from the gym for comments unsuitable for this family newspaper. The school's superintendent called him the next day to thank him for how they handled the situation and let him know the coach was no longer their coach.
On one Friday night, after officiating a football game at Avon, they were driving home after and heard on the radio the officials who were suppose to work the game at Yorkwood did not show up, He said that crew turned out to be them and he had double-booked the crew.
"We went to work Saturday the next day for free," he said.
Just for kicks, Mueller and Corwin like to work one of Ken Wilcoxen's games at Bureau Valley North each season. Wilcoxen has officiated along side Mueller in football, whose crew has worked two State finals, as recent as 2012.
"They say they want to give me a technical before I retire," Wilcoxen said. "I'm glad they got inducted. They both deserve it."
After 33 years of officiating, Mueller can see the light at the end of his referring tunnel. He says he wouldn't changed a thing.
"I have had a great time doing it and have made a lot of friends along the way," he said, noting school administrators and fellow officials.
He encourages new officials to be patient and move up at the right time when they are ready.


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text: Back to list Thursday, March 20, 2014 - 11:17 AM Tom Beck Presents - Drummers Camp Sardinia 2014 Meinl Cymbal artist Tom Beck will host an exclusive Drum Camp in Sardinia, Italy from September 27 - October 04. Registration is now open. For more info check out drummerscamp.comTom Beck:"The second Drummers Camp Sardinia took place from September 26 until October 3, 2013. We experienced an amazing week, including a broad range of interesting workshops, fantastic weather and a relaxing leisure programme. From a culinary aspect, we were spoiled by a variety of typical and traditional Sardinian dishes. The second Drummers Camp Sardinia was a huge success and arouses the desire for more!We are already working on the third edition of the Drummers Camp Sardinia 2014. The workshops relating to the topics of drums, percussion, ergonomics and fitness shall be given by international top artists. After the courses, we take the participants to Masua, one of the most beautiful beaches ever. There, it's possible to swim, surf, enjoy a trip in a kayak or just relax at the Wahrung Beach Lounge and listen to cool music with a refreshing beverage. Once again, inspiration and enthusiasm are our main goals for the third edition of the Drummers Camp Sardinia."


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Follow My Fork – Recipe Testingby Secretary Confidential in View All Posts, May 29th, 2009
Enjoy my third installment of Follow My Fork. If you didn't see where my fork led me for my first two adventures, you can still catch them here:
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Follow My Fork – On set
Until next week. Here's to Eating Well!
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LEXINGTON, Ky. (AP) -- A Kentucky man charged with killing a woman he sought to marry won't fight extradition from Ohio, where he's being held in jail.
The Lexington Herald-Leader reported (http://bit.ly/XHkQp0 ) that 34-year-old Jeffrey Jackson agreed to return to Lexington to face a charge of murder in the death of 34-year-old Quantina Reed. A friend found Reed shot to death inside her home on March 27.
A U.S. Marshals Task Force arrested Jackson later that day in a parking lot in Dayton, Ohio. Jackson is being held in a jail in Montgomery County, Ohio.
Reed's family says the day before her death, Jackson asked her father for his blessing to marry Reed. The family says Jackson had driven Reed's Chrysler 300 to Dayton.
Information from: Lexington Herald-Leader, http://www.kentucky.com


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The Senate Republicans whose arguments helped drag Obamacare into the funding debate are well-known. Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas and Mike Lee of Utah have gained much attention.
But what about their counterparts in the House?
A small group of conservative House members has had broad influence over the fiscal debate, helping to steer the actions of Speaker John Boehner and the Republican conference. And yet few of them have stepped into the national spotlight.
"They meet secretly, they plot and they plan," said Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif.
One of the most visible is Rep. Tom Graves of Georgia, who got dozens of fellow Republicans to support his effort to defund Obamacare and who, along with Cruz and Lee, has been instrumental in the push to use the funding fight to weaken the Affordable Care Act. Others include regular mavericks like Reps. Justin Amash of Michigan, Louie Gohmert of Texas, Tim Huelskamp of Kansas, and Steve King of Iowa. There are also Reps. Paul Broun of Georgia, Thomas Massie of Kentucky, Steve Stockman of Texas, and Ted Yoho of Florida.
Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has called the House tea-party wing a bunch of "legislative arsonists" for their demands. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has called them "anarchists."
While few doubt there is a genuine hatred of the Affordable Care Act and an antigovernment fervor among this group, some lawmakers suggest that the budget battle was also designed as a vehicle to weaken Boehner and help remake the House Republican Conference itself.
Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., a tea-party-aligned member, said Wednesday that he's heard such suggestions about himself and others who have played key instigating roles behind the House effort to tie the dismantling of Obamacare to a bill that funds government. And, indeed, Meadows wrote a letter to his Republican leaders this summer suggesting that very strategy, also signed by dozens of colleagues.
But Wednesday, Meadows said talk that the idea was intended to embarrass or undermine Boehner is untrue.
"I can tell you there's been absolutely no conversations about a new speaker," he said. "If anything, I've made just a great appeal to thank leadership in a united way."
Nunes points out that many of the members involved in the Obamacare debate were part of the same group that "attempted this goofy thing right as we came out of the gate this year," referring to a botched effort by some House lawmakers to prevent Boehner from winning his second term as speaker in January. More than 20 House Republicans were said to be behind that effort — enough to keep Boehner from getting a required majority-plus-one — but the rebellion fizzled.
In the time since then, Nunes said, many have worked to prevent Boehner from getting enough votes in the House to pass legislation without having to turn to Democrats for help, which some might see as weak. He suggests a similar strategy is in play on the budget impasse now.
"So what was the real objective? A lot of these guys, when you talk to them privately, the guys who don't let us get to 218 on anything, they'll tell you, "˜Well, we just figured the leadership was going to cave,' " Nunes said. He said their belief was that Boehner would cut a deal with President Obama and Democrats, and by his doing so would further undermine his standing as speaker.
"So now just step back from this — if they actually thought Boehner was going to cave, that means they never actually had a real plan to deal with the CR to begin with," Nunes said. "From the beginning, this never made sense."
A Boehner spokesman had no comment.
But another House Republican lawmaker, speaking on the condition he not be named, said that Majority Leader Eric Cantor and Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., share part of the blame for the openness and brazenness with which some conservatives now openly defy the speaker.
While there are few public confrontations within the leadership trio, he noted that both Cantor and McCarthy voted on New Year's against the bill designed to avert the so-called fiscal cliff, abandoning Boehner. The lawmaker said that illustrated for others that Boehner's influence could be challenged.
"It's one thing to sit at the leadership table and disagree and talk through things," the lawmaker said. "It's another to then leave the table and do so. And since the fiscal cliff when you had No. 2 and No. 3 not back No. 1, everybody's been saying, "˜Where are these guys?' "
Meadows insists that what he and the other conservatives behind the effort to tie Obamacare to a CR are trying to accomplish has nothing to do with ousting Boehner.
"We are united in this effort to get government back open and working again. So, there's been no talk of anything like that," he said.
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