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I hope this isn't considered as a site review. I just want to see how complex a logo can be. I am completely blind, as some here may know, and I am trying to find a designer to do a logo for me. I have ideas, but I was told that an idea I had was too complex.
My site is a religious site named Christ's Little Flock. Due to the name, I wanted the theme to portray at least one or more sheep, and perhaps portray Jesus in some way as well.
In my idea, I had Jesus picking up a lost lamb, separated from the flock. But that is probably a lot to show in just a logo, though it'd portray the meaning of our site perfectly.
So just to give me an idea, how complex can a logo be? I'm just not sure where to go here. The designer wasn't really helpful in giving me any alternative ideas, so I'm pretty lost.
Clients take this personally, but they shouldn't .. it's merely the science of art.
I understand why you would want (be tempted) to include a figure, a staff, some sheep, rolling meadows, a wolf and a sun, maybe some fluffy clouds, in the pictogram which would reflect your organizations name. This urge is natural for non brad professionals and non-designers. But keep in mind ( technical /reproduction difficulties aside) that logo building is a REDUCTIVE process. The urge that you feel is to create an ILLUSTRATION of your organization name or, better yet, mission. So simple , even abstract is better.. both technically and communicative in the long run.
Keeping with your xtian theme, for example look at the "fish" logo. it's ONE BENT LINE ... the GESTURE which represents a fish. note the designer could have been tempted (by the way am not punning) to render a fish.. ( but what fish? a talipa, a guppy?) have used multiple fish, loaves of bread, the crowd.. a shore line...
During logo design, one is forced to delete the details as unimportant and focus on the telling line.
The APPLE logo for example was originally based on NEWTONS APPLE. Which is why the company targeted education early on... but it was HORRIBLE because it tried to tell a story rather than make a name memorable with a gesture.
hope my advise has been useful.
Thank you. I understand. Like I said I am completely 100% blind, so I have not seen what other logos look like, to be able to know what is the norm. I was just trying to figure out the complexity that is usual for logos.
My apology, I thought you used that as a 'metaphor' .:blush::blush:The idea is you want to make it a symbol not an illustration. My mentor used to say 'a telling line' . try to think of a concept with as few elements as possible. Hopefully the designer will also be able to make a minimalistic representation of said elements. If nothing else you can at least understand WHY having a myriad of elements is self defeating; I mean if you were to find a good, clean stylistic representation of a sheep.. only to clutter it by repeating it 7 times. Hopefully that guides you in refining your brandmark concept.
Lol, most people seem to think that.
Understood. I will certainly think about that. Your help is appreciated.
I think you should keep the idea of the sheep, especially as it relates to the name. Adding a shepherd or something else (like a cross) will lessen the impact of the logo. In my opinion.
That's what I'm thinking about. My concern is whether just a sheep would really portray what we are trying to represent. Perhaps a sheep looking up towards a light or something.
Thanks for your input.
again, a logo is a symbol not an illustration. consider that , properly styled, two or better yet a single sheep can REPRESENT a flock. I would also consider using a shepherd's crook .. perhaps that can be styled SUBTLY from a cross?
I recently read something where it stated that a logo needs to work when it fills the entire side of a building and that it also needs to work when as small as a postage stamp. The smaller of these sizes combined with screen resolution means that your logo needs to work when it contains perhaps as few as 70 x 90 pixels (even less if you also want to use it as a favicon) - this doesn't give a great amount of scope for including anything even slightly complex. With logos simpler is generally better - what you need is something easily recognisable.
The complication of a design lies in the hands of a designer. However, when a logo is concerned, simplicity is seen as its best. Why don't you try to creatively embed the image in the text? Or create an icon of Jesus holding the lost sheep? Like a silhouette maybe with a background all put in a small circle. I see its been a while since you raised this question. Have you found any luck? It would be nice to see what you have produced.
I would go for all font logo with a small bit of illustration. IMO less is more. lets make a memorable logo than a complex logo. If I'm a user I will come back to your website for the content not only for the logo.
A logo can be as simple or as complex as a good logo designer can create.
I don't think the logo you envision is out of the question. It kinda depends on what you plan to use it for. Will it only be for your web site? If so, then you may be thinking of something more like a masthead. Which would be the top part of your site. Lots of church sites use that area for different graphical themes. This is common for sites designed for Wordpress. It's just a part of the site that takes the top portion of usually the home page (or all pages) and can have a nice graphic element representing the theme or feel of the site.
Most logos are designed to be flat, versatile and vector based, especially when used for printing, like on business cards, t-shirts, paper stock, coffee cups, etc. Which is why they are usually very simple. If you just want your logo on your site then it can be any way you want. You'll run into trouble later on if you want to put it on business cards.
When I think of complex logos, I think of movie company logos like Paramount, 20th Century Fox, DreamWorks, MGM and even Disney. When seen on the tv/movie screen they are usually pretty detailed and portray a vastness about them. But there are versions of the same logos made small enough to be put on stationary and still be recognizable -- just most of the detail is left out. For example, the DreamWorks logo is a boy sitting on the crescent moon with his fishing rod surrounded by clouds. The smaller versions are just the boy on the moon with the fishing rod usually in black and white and no detail, like a silhouette. Sometimes just the name of the company -- DreamWorks.
If the artist can also make a silhouette version of your logo, then it is definitely doable.
I think the person you talked to may just be thinking from a branding perspective and wants to stick with the rules of logo creation they were taught.
You are the client and what you want should be done no matter how complex or difficult. You should push to have it done and if they don't want to do it, you should find a new person to help you out.
In all honesty, the more complex you make your logo the more you're "asking of the viewer", which can be a good thing if the viewer is completely in par with the story that the logo is telling, or immediately sees how clever the logo is. In reality I find that people perceive logos very differently, what is obviously a raindrop to person A may be perceived as an apple to Person B. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't make complex or even challenging logos, but it really comes down to the ability of the artist to convey the message as clearly as possible - which is why a lot of people lean towards simple and straight forward logos: to make sure that their message is conveyed.
In short, a skilled artist in theory can make any logo accessible by anyone, but a crowded logo can easily throw off a lot of viewers who your logo is meant to be "catching" rather than confusing.
hi everyone. It's good to read all of your posts. I am planning to learn about graphic designing, specifically logo creation. My problem is that I don't know how to create simple images or shapes that I can turn into an image for the logo.
On the other hand, I do agree with simplicity. Most famous logos don't have much images but shapes and the like.
I would suggest limiting the logo to one smiling cartoon sheep cradled in 2 arms, very tightly cropped. Use vector graphics software so it would scale to any size smoothly.
I'm at a loss as to why your designer couldn't give you any ideas. A good designer should be able to submit 10 ideas.


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Saturday, February 28, 2009
Project 21 Wins Dubious Honor
Project 21 was awarded the "House Negroes of the Day" award from the radical black web site The Field Negro [Caution: the site contains language and graphics some may consider offensive] on February 16.
The black conservatives of Project 21 were branded "house Negroes" by blogger Wain Bennett, an attorney in Philadelphia who fancies himself a "citizen of the world." In calling someone of whom he disapproves a "house Negro" and himself and others he favors "field Negroes," Bennett harkens back to slave-era slang that is used today as an insult along the lines of "Uncle Tom." It refers to those in bondage who sought to curry the slaveowner's favor and be allowed to work supposedly better jobs in the house.
The award is not supposed to be something to be celebrated.
In bestowing the award, Bennett explained:Taking the position that blacks and Latinos were trying to politicize the census reports, and supporting Judd Gregg on the issue is house Negro behavior.Actually, Project 21 Chairman Mychal Massie expressed concern that the White House may be politicizing the very important and constitutionally-mandated job of counting people in the United States. White House Chief-of-Staff Rahm Emanuel, who previously spoke about the partisan nature of political redistricting that is a by-product of the Census, told USA Today in 2006 that partisanship after the 2010 Census would be "on steroids."
Now Emanuel may be signing off on the mechanics of the Census process. If a fair census process is impeded by manipulation of data rather than a thorough counting, voting districts could be awarded on false pretenses.
This growing constitutional concern - and not a concern about blacks or Latinos - fueled Massie's comments and apparently led, in part, to Commerce Secretary-designate Judd Gregg withdrawal of his name from consideration.
Traditionally, the bulk of the Census is run out of the Commerce Department.
As Mychal said in the press release that brought Bennett's ire:One of the principal jobs of the Commerce Secretary is to conduct a census every 10 years that will decide voting districts and in part creates a new political playing field. Senator Gregg seems to have recognized that the White House wants to usurp this power and rightly wanted nothing to do with it. Senator Gregg's act should be seen as a wake-up call to America that strong oversight is needed over the census process lest it be abused for partisan gain.As protecting the Constitution from potential partisan abuse is what brought about this name-calling episode, Bennett's attempted disrespect is being taken as an honor by Mychal Massie and other members of Project 21.
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Fear and stress reactions are essential for human survival. They enable people to pursue important goals and to respond appropriately to danger. In a healthy individual, the stress response (fight, fright, or flight) is provoked by a genuine threat or challenge and is used as a spur for appropriate action.
An anxiety disorder, however, involves an excessive or inappropriate state of arousal characterized by feelings of apprehension, uncertainty, or fear. The word is derived from the Latin, angere , which means to choke or strangle. The anxiety response is often not triggered by a real threat. Nevertheless it can still paralyze the individual into inaction or withdrawal. An anxiety disorder persists, while an appropriate response to a threat resolves, once the threat is removed.
Anxiety disorders are classified according to the severity and duration of their symptoms and specific behavioral characteristics. Categories include:
GAD and panic disorder are the most common. Anxiety disorders are usually caused by a combination of psychological, physical, and genetic factors, and treatment is, in general, very effective.
Generalized anxiety disorder (GAD) is the most common anxiety disorder. It affects about 5% of Americans over the course of their lifetimes. It is characterized by:
Given these conditions, a diagnosis of GAD is confirmed if three or more of the following symptoms are present (only one for children) on most days for 6 months:
Symptoms can cause significant distress and impair normal functioning. To be classified as GAD, they should not be due to a medical condition, another mood disorder, or psychosis. GAD rarely occurs by itself. It typically occurs along with another type of anxiety disorder, depression, or substance abuse.
Panic disorder is characterized by periodic attacks of anxiety or terror (panic attacks). Panic attacks usually last 15 - 30 minutes, although residual effects can persist much longer. The frequency and severity of acute states of anxiety determine the diagnosis. (Panic attacks can occur in nearly every anxiety disorder, not just panic disorder. In other anxiety disorders, however, there is always a cue or specific trigger for the attack.) A diagnosis of panic disorder is made under the following conditions:
Symptoms of a Panic Attack. During a panic attack a person feels intense fear or discomfort with at least four or more of the following symptoms:
Women may be more likely than men to experience shortness of breath, nausea, and feelings of being smothered. More men than women have sweating and abdominal pain. Panic attacks that include only one or two symptoms, such as dizziness and heart pounding, are known as limited-symptom attacks . These may be either residual symptoms after a major panic attack or precursors to full-blown attacks.
Frequency of Panic Attacks. Frequency of attacks can vary widely. Some people have frequent attacks (for example, every week) that occur for months; others may have clusters of daily attacks followed by weeks or months of remission.
Triggers of Panic Attacks. Panic attacks may occur spontaneously or in response to a particular situation. Recalling or re-experiencing even harmless circumstances surrounding an original attack may trigger subsequent panic attacks.
Phobias, manifested by overwhelming and irrational fears, are common. In most cases, people can avoid or at least endure phobic situations, but in some cases, as with agoraphobia, the anxiety associated with the feared object or situation can be incapacitating.
Agoraphobia. Agoraphobia is described as fear of being in public places or open areas. (The term is derived from the Greek word agora, meaning outdoor marketplace.) In its severest form, agoraphobia is characterized by a paralyzing terror of being in places or situations from which the patient feels there is neither escape nor accessible help in case of an attack. Consequently, people with agoraphobia confine themselves to places in which they feel safe, usually at home. The patient with agoraphobia often makes complicated plans in order to avoid confronting feared situations and places.
Social Phobia. Social phobia, also known as social anxiety disorder, is the fear of being publicly scrutinized and humiliated and is manifested by extreme shyness and discomfort in social settings. This phobia often leads people to avoid social situations and is not due to a physical or mental problem (such as stuttering, acne, or personality disorders). Social phobia has been termed "the neglected anxiety disorder" because it is often not properly diagnosed.
The associated symptoms vary in intensity, ranging from mild and tolerable anxiety to a full-blown panic attack. (Unlike a panic attack, however, social phobia is always directly related to a social situation.) Symptoms include sweating, shortness of breath, pounding heart, dry mouth, and tremor.
The disorder may be further categorized as generalized or specific social phobia:
Children with social anxiety develop symptoms in settings that include their peers, not just adults, and these symptoms may include tantrums, blushing, or not being able to speak to unfamiliar people. These children are often able to have normal social relationships with familiar people, however.
Specific Phobias. Specific phobias (formerly simple phobias) are an irrational fear of specific objects or situations. Specific phobias are among the most common medical disorders. Most cases are mild and not significant enough to require treatment.
The most common phobias are fear of animals (usually spiders, snakes, or mice), flying ( pterygophobia ), heights ( acrophobia ), water, injections, public transportation, confined spaces ( claustrophobia ), dentists ( odontiatophobia ), storms, tunnels, and bridges.
When confronting the object or situation, the phobic person experiences panicky feelings, sweating, avoidance behavior, difficulty breathing, and a rapid heartbeat. Most phobic adults are aware of the irrationality of their fear, and many endure intense anxiety rather than disclose their disorder.
Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is time-consuming, distressing, and can disrupt normal functioning. Much research suggests that a critical feature in this disorder is an overinflated sense of responsibility, in which the patient's thoughts center around possible dangers and an urgent need to do something about them.
Over half of patients with OCD have obsessive thoughts without the ritualistic compulsive behavior. Although individuals recognize that the obsessive thoughts and ritualized behavior patterns are senseless and excessive, they cannot stop them in spite of strenuous efforts to ignore or suppress the thoughts or actions. OCD often accompanies depression or other anxiety disorders. Some patients find that their symptoms subside over time, while others experience a worsening of symptoms.
Symptoms in children may be mistaken for behavioral problems (taking too long to do homework because of perfectionism, refusing to perform a chore because of fear of germs). Children do not usually recognize that their obsessions or compulsions are excessive.
Associated Obsessive Disorders. Certain other disorders that may be part of, or strongly associated with, the OCD spectrum include:
Obsessive-Compulsive Personality. OCD should not be confused with obsessive-compulsive personality , which defines certain character traits (being a perfectionist, excessively conscientious, morally rigid, or preoccupied with rules and order). These traits do not necessarily occur in people with obsessive-compulsive disorder .
Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) is a severe, persistent emotional reaction to a traumatic event that severely impairs one's life. It is classified as an anxiety disorder because of its symptoms. Not every traumatic event leads to PTSD, however. There are two criteria that must be present to qualify for a diagnosis of PTSD:
Triggering Events. PTSD is triggered by violent or traumatic events that are usually outside the normal range of human experience. War is a prime example. There is some evidence that events most likely to trigger PTSD are those that involve deliberate and destructive behavior (murder, rape) and those that are prolonged or physically challenging. Such events include, but are not limited to, experiencing or witnessing sexual assaults, accidents, military combat, natural disasters (such as earthquakes), or unexpected deaths of loved ones. PTSD may also occur in people who have serious illness and receive aggressive treatments or who have close family members or friends with such conditions.
Symptoms of PTSD. There are three basic sets of symptoms associated with PTSD. They may begin immediately after the event or can develop up to a year afterward:
To further qualify for a diagnosis of PTSD, patients must have at least one symptom in the re-experiencing category, three avoidance symptoms, and two arousal symptoms. Symptoms are chronic (3 months or more). Symptoms should also not be associated with alcohol, medications, or drugs and should not be intensifications of a pre-existing psychological disorder.
Acute Stress Disorder. In a syndrome called acute stress disorder, symptoms of PTSD occur within 2 days to 4 weeks after the traumatic event. Most people with acute stress disorder go on to develop PTSD.
Long-Term Outlook. The long-term impact of a traumatic event is uncertain. PTSD may cause physical changes in the brain, and in some cases the disorder can last a lifetime.
Separation anxiety disorder almost always occurs in children. It is suspected in children who are excessively anxious about separation from important family members or from home. For a diagnosis of separation anxiety disorder, the child should also exhibit at least three of the following symptoms for at least 4 weeks:
Separation anxiety often disappears as the child grows older, but if not addressed, it may lead to panic disorder, agoraphobia, or combinations of anxiety disorders.


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The Culture Secretary has praised Corsham's Pound Arts Centre an example to the rest of Wiltshire, after a visit this morning.
Maria Miller, Secretary of State for Culture Media and Sport joined the centre's new director Russ Tunney and prospective Conservative parliamentary candidate Michelle Donelan for a tour of the centre, meeting with some of the artists who use it.
She said: "It's clear that the Pound is a hub for north Wiltshire in terms of the arts and culture, with the way it has developed the atmosphere to support the arts with its regional touring programme and exhibitions of all sorts of arts forms.
"The Pound has received more than £800,000 of public funding, to make sure the programmes are successful, and so it can reach out to other rural communities in Wiltshire and Gloucestershire.
"It's a very impressive facility they have here, and it's places like this which are important to help people become more involved in the community."
Miss Donelan, who is standing for the Chippenham constituency, which includes Corsham, at next year's general election, said: "Exposure to the arts and culture is really important but it's not just about the arts here; people come here for community meetings, the cafe, and exercise groups like pilates, and this is a fantastic example we could replicate throughout the county.
"There are so many volunteers in Wiltshire doing fantastic things, and this is a great example of how organisations can work within the community and with government."
Mr Tunney, who joined the centre just before Christmas, showed the minister round the centre's exhibition space, which is currently hosting sculptures shortlisted for the Althea Wynne bursary award, which will be presented tonight.
He said: "I'm very excited about joining The Pound, it's a very welcoming town and team here, and it was great to show the minister round.
"It has been hard in the arts for the last few years, but this place feels buoyant, and very well-supported. It's a very busy building.
"I am looking forward to getting stuck into my own work and programme, and I am talking to lots of exciting companies at the moment."
They also met some of the local artists who use the centre's studio space.
Bromham-based painter Janet Coleman showed the minister some of her works. She said: "She took a real interest in what we do.
"It's a really great place here, we don't know what we would do without it. You are inspired when you come because of the arty atmosphere.
"To have a designated place is wonderful, and a lot of people in Corsham benefit from the centre."
The Althea Wynne exhibition opens to the public on Saturday, and runs until February 1.


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What are some examples of an ethical building?
Very 1971. Very regional. Very in tune with its context. And, yes, socially responsible at a time when that wasn't an absolute must, but they are primarily a forest resources company, so they were forward thinking and appeased the tree huggers. It was designed by SOM.
Weyerhaeuser International Headquarters, Federal Way, WA (south Seattle suburb):
There are more flattering views than the one shown. The best ones are where the full height above the adjacent pond or water feature is better displayed.
Truly ethical buildings are made for the landscape, by the landscape.
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Not to make light of the situation, but I wonder if the igloos are polar bear proof. The smallness of the openings could offer some protection. But I wonder if these large animals would just start wreaking havoc on the structure if they wanted in. Or if the locals had a good assortment of bows and arrows, harpoons, or other weapons. After all, the purpose of any structure is to provide shelter, offer protection from the elements, and enable human functions. The elements would vary by location.
why would a polar bear want to break in? would a break-in from a person be just a threatening? there is no lock on the front door. no ada clearance either.
the guy in the picture is wearing something to the effect of a columbia jacket. maybe cabela's. bow and arrow? why wouldn't he just carry a pistol if he felt he needed the protection? he could get a shot off a lot quicker if he didn't have to notch an arrow and pull the string back and all that.
why would a polar bear want to break in?
Do you watch nature documentaries? Polar bears are something to be feared. When a vehicle passes them on their snowy terrain, and they see people inside, they get excited, as in "lunchtime." If the vehicle stops or goes slowly, they will come close to it, or even follow it.
they look pretty cuddly and playful to me. i'm sure i'm ruled by many emotions, but fear isn't typically at the top of the list. if i came into contact with a polar bear tomorrow (despite the 100 degree heat), i really don't think it would concern me (other than the inappropriate environment part) because the polar bear wouldn't have any reason to be afraid of me. there isn't really any possibility i would be it's only food source in the middle of the city, and if there was some sort of outside influence that has the bear rattled, it would typically communicate that in some way so i would know to avoid it's perimeter. i would think with all of your travels you would understand animals better.
the most ethical building is the one that isn't going to destroy polar bear's homes. which means, the most ethical building is the one not built.
you could also say the most ethical building is the one where the client pays the architect...
Inuit hunt Nanuk, and they've protested bans on hunting them.
It must have been more challenging before the Hudson's Bay Company armed them rifles and snowmobiles.
i would think with all of your travels you would understand animals better.
I understand that you give them their space ... when you're in THEIR space. That means the Arctic Circle (polar bears), Glacier National Park in MT (grizzly bears), the Gold Country foothills of the Sierra Nevada in CA (mountain lions), random creeks and ponds in rural Florida (alligators), and beaches on Australia's Great Barrier Reef (white sharks).
I was just talking to a big corn fed Midwestern guy last weekend who said that when his golf ball went in, or near, the water features on Florida golf courses, he didn't bother to go get it. People sort of assume every water feature on a Florida golf course has a gator living in it. And they're probably right.
Choose life. Or at least your arms and legs.
One where the Architect also makes an appropriate profit and not just the owner / certain consultants or the realtor or end user flipper.
striving to design good buildings is already inherently ethical and selfless as the extra time taken to do so eats away at the design firms profit.
the alternative profit driven model / lazy approach ( take your pick ) is the norm for the majority of realised buildings worldwide. So Architecture ( as opposed to building ) is inherently ethical in its intent.
An Architect who makes a loss on a well designed building actually takes a double hit - the actual defined loss and the undefined loss ( lost profits due to the extra time expended on good design ).
For an Architect to make a loss due to time lost to intensive design whilst all other parties make a profit - that is unethical as well as being naive and stupid on the part of the Architect if repeated project after proect . Ive never seen anyone else devote unpaid time / work for free on a building .
Wasn't it Philip Johnson who said the ideal client is the one that goes off to Europe for an extended period of time and leaves you the checkbook, or something to that effect? Real ethical ... and real professional. Oh brother.
One that doesn't use 5 year olds from burma... or is it myanmar.. I really can't keep up with this stuff.
I think it's a building that doesn't upset granolas and tree huggers. Better yet, they lovingly talk about the building.
an excellent book that makes clear that ethics in architecture isn't three sentences. it's a career-long exploration. : http://www.amazon.com/The-Ethical-Architect-Contemporary-Practice/dp/1568982852/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378898607&sr=8-1&keywords=the+ethical+architect
Maybe I don't understand the question, but how can an inanimate mass of matter be ethical or unethical? The architect, developer, builder, owner, and whomever might be, but how does that rub off on architecture? A building can have negative or positive associations that might be associated with ethical or unethical behavior, but even if you chose to attach human qualities to inert matter, time tends to modify or even erase those associations.
^ Like they did at Treblinka?
to be fair thayer-d, i a building can do great harm. this could include structural deficiencies, that cause the building to collapse and kill people. it could include inefficient mechanical systems that cause global warming. building things often causes habitats for some flora/fauna to be destroyed. that includes killing bunnies. when such harm can be caused, perhaps ethics can be a concern.
if we label people as "granola" and hold stereotypes and prejudices that suggests such people are generally less intelligent or otherwise worth less than the rest of us, it might take the sting out of the decisions we make that cause harm to others.
Regarding Treblinka's buildings being unethical, I suppose that's one way of looking at it.
@ curtkram. I see your point, allthough in the examples you describe I would lable the builder or whomever was responsible for those failures and not the building itself. Like a bridge that colapses, it might be the contractor or engineer who's unethical behavior led to failure, but not the bridge itself. A building might represent unethical behavior but labeling a building *unethical* seems to take blame away from whomever was responsible for its failure.
As to prejudices, I think you've right about how they are harmful, all be it natural. Degrade a person through associations or however and it makes it easier to mis-treat them. In the Holocaust, the Nazi's spent years degrading everybody who wasn't aryan (whatever the hell that means) to justify their eventual slaughter, but they also made it patently clear to whomever would object that their fate would be the same. But if you lable everything in Germany during that time as unethical, you risk the kind of guilt by association that encourages prejudice thinking in the first place.
Buildings are like corporations, they aren't human.
To the point that buildings are inert matter that can't be either ethical or not, I want to raise the example of the house in Cleveland where Michelle Knight, Amanda Berry, and Gina DeJesus were imprisoned for ten years: it has been demolished. The house didn't do anything wrong, but somehow we humans anthropomorphize buildings, particularly buildings where something awful happens.
Not arguing for or against your point, Thayer, just throwing an example into the discussion.
That's a great point Donna. That house was a house of horrors. Or take the Neurenburg Parade grounds that Germany is going to restore. I would flatten it, but looking at Mussolini's EUR, I would keep. One is associated with mass murder, while the other one (while still a murderer) is just an egomaniac's White City.
if we label people as "granola" and hold stereotypes and prejudices that suggests such people are generally less intelligent or otherwise worth less than the rest of us, it might take the sting out of the decisions we make that cause harm to others.
The granola and tree hugger monikers may be stereotypes, but I didn't come up with them. Also, they say nothing about intelligence. Usually, they are intelligent, or at least well-informed on some topics. The monikers speak to their misplaced passions on nutrition, exaggerated passions about the environment, and often packaged thinking on both religion and politics. I sort of thought granolas were what might have been hippies at one time. Therefore, I thought they were peaceful and affable people, who smoked a lot of pot and had a lot of sex. Not. They are much more about anger, rebellion, and flouting conventions. I don't advocate mistreatment of anyone. However, if someone, or a segment of society, with a predictable collective value system doesn't resonate with you, give them a wide berth.
^ Labeling groups of people is a way to divide society.
Miles, you're from the greater NYC area and are probably aware people there do it all the time. My relatives there always prefaced someone as "my (insert ethnicity) friend or coworker." I find that those who are more apt to make light of differences among people are oftentimes the most tolerant of differences. What really bites my ass is when someone from a very homogenous area of America shakes their finger at you and says "that's not nice" at something of that nature, when they have surrounded themselves with WASPs and know little or nothing about other cultures, as in NIMBY. I find that kind of hypocritical.
I got the greatest laugh in San Francisco one day. I went in on BART with a friend and his parents (ahem ... from Cuba) who wanted to go to the Wharf. I've usually driven to the Wharf, so we got off BART at Montgomery in the Financial District. We needed a bus to get us up to the Wharf. At the bus stop, I saw this American guy who was kind of goofy and street smart at the same time. I asked him "Which bus can get us to the Wharf?" He mentioned the 15, 30, and 45, I think - multiples of 15, IIR. Since they all went through Chinatown, he added "we call it the Orient Express." No veneer of "San Francisco political correctness." He was just a funny guy, so you know it was humor instead of hate.
Ethical buildings are those that are for the benefit of those that occupy them, not for the status or reputation of the architect.
Ethical: Most buildings
Unethical: CCTV, Pruit-igoe, WTC
^ Developers produce most buildings for profit without concern for *anything* else.
Yeah, you are right. But profit at least creates some motivation to make building experience better, because if nobody wants to come, then you won't make money. Of course many times we are stuck with what developers give us so there might not be as much choice as we think, but it does work to a certain extent. Capitalism always gives us hope that something better will come along.
From a developer's point of view "better" buildings are more profitable, and the emphasis is on marketing rather than ethical responsibility.
Yes, marketing is clearly the enemy of good/ethical design. That's why I find those glossy computer renderings awful. That's why it would be beneficial to create some system of checking back on buildings to see if they matched their promises, but there's no money in that (since the architecture media was annexed by PR firms).
Buildings are not ethical, but they are the result of design which is an extension of ethical choices and moral frameworks. I don't believe a building should be conceptualized with any agency because it can make no choices - but buildings are an interesting evidence of choices.
"What are some examples of an ethical building?"
That depends on the assumptions behind your question: is the building ethical because the architect (or his/her intentions) is ethical, or is it ethical because the building promotes (or reinforces) ethics?
For the former: plenty. For example, buildings by the late Mockbee, or the refugees' temporal housing by Ban. Then there are more dubious cases where 'heroic' architects proposed wholesale bulldozing in the name of 'blight clearance' in the 1950s/60s. As for the latter, a few. For example, the house of pleasure by Ledoux, which purportedly encouraged vice ironically for the aims of virtue; or Bentham's panopticon prison, which internalizes self-discipline, and values considered virtuous by the disciplinarians; or more recently, Exhibition Road in London, where Dixon and Jones aimed to internalize good conscientiousness on the part of the motorists by removing sidewalk so motorists and pedestrians all share one space.
If 20th century was about the former, then we have to beware of the latter in the 21st century. There is sufficient social science, capital and willpower out there to completely mould the built environment to encourage a certain kind of ethics. To cite one proponent of the 'just city': what are your chances of mentally or physically protesting a city that restricts your willingness, and indeed, ethos, to live as ethically as you can (say in LA where owning a car, and participation in all its corollary activities and burdens, is necessary...)? Or when shops lined every arterial ways making contemporary living a routine of constantly buying unnecessary gimmicks?
Optimistically, architects advocating salutogenic designs have used this knowledge to craft very powerful healing spaces. But this knowledge, as B.F. Skinner has shown, can be used for dubious ends. Architects would be foolish to leave ethical reasoning out in design.
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" is the building ethical because the architect (or his/her intentions) is ethical, or is it ethical because the building promotes (or reinforces) ethics?" How does one verify these conclusions? And if one could, how would other players with unethical dispositions factor into the ethicalmeter reading of a building? If one's doing "good", there's no need to advertise, just do it.
One verifies the former by measuring the architect's intention against the outcomes. If the architect's intention is to design a zero-energy building, the outcome should consistently reflect this intention. One verifies the latter by observing the design features that aim to encourage, or compel, some kind of moral compliance. The architect should account for himself/herself first before trying to factor in the ethical intentions of others. It is possible to exonerate the architect for his/her good intentions in a badly made building, but it is quite impossible to absolve the architect if his/her intentions is to display his/her egoism at the expense of the public good.
Quite the contrary, when one is trying to do 'good', one should make a point to explain this to one's clients/potential users. This is because the architect's notion of 'good' is usually enriched by the values held to be good by others.
Intention vs outcome is not ethics but rather a measure of performance that may be effected by client / contractor / etc.
To strive for high performance is a lofty goal. To achieve the ideal desired level of performance is all but impossible, which doesn't keep us from trying. Some of us, at least.
A high-performance prison for profit is not ethical no matter how well the execution (no pun intended) meets the intention.
I just want to know three *simple* things. Who's the judge on what's ethical or not, how will that judgement effect what gets built, and to what end?
Conventionally speaking, the professional body is the entity that judges what's ethical or not. But today--in any open society--there are individuals and watch-groups that review one's building. They can also judge what's ethical or not. It is not possible for one to violate a tenet of environmental ethics (an easy example)--say, destruction of the habitat of the fairy shrimp with one's architecture--and hope to get away with it.
Your second question is a little more tricky. This is because you presumed that ethical judgment necessarily leads to effecting what gets built. Ethical judgments do many other things, of which only one is effecting what gets built. Suppose no one cares about the built environment; no one cares to point out that this or that is unethical--everyone simply minds their own business. This is not only a failure of democracy, but also the inevitable failure of the civic life and ultimately, the hijacking of civic life by other ideologies. How do I know? I live, and have lived, in many cities just like that! And I am sure you see that too.
And so the question of 'to what end' is clear and very simple: to ensure that there is still a proper, humanistic and civilized way to critique and evaluate buildings beyond dollars and cents on the one hand, and on the other, that there is this other leverage against unilateralism, tyranny from wealth and reckless power in the public sphere. Just because the city has become mostly privatized and corporatized does not mean the erosion of moral rights; in other words, having economic rights do not replace the need too for moral rights.
It is quite simple isn't it? To the end that architecture has mostly become a coding activity on the one hand, and on the other, some watered down ideology of sustainability, we have completely lost the language and interest to see that this discipline is broader on the one end, and graver for our common existence on the other end.
I wish it where that simple. The architectural world seems starkly divided. Take a look at the buildings that get highlighted in a magazine like Architect and the buildings in the ads. If the professional body is who judges ethics, then it might be useful to know what part of this body you are refering to; academia, media, development, architects, builders, or clients, becasue they all play their part. The second question is tricky becasue what's the point of ethics if they don't play any role in outcomes? In other words, anyone can say "I Love Jesus!!!" and yet their actions might not live up to Jesuse's principals, assuming Christians can actually agree on those principles.
I found your last answer the most promising. "To ensure that there is still a proper, humanistic and civilized way to critique and evaluate buildings" If only that where true. There are some who look at this profession as only a job like any other, without any responsability to the general public, a public for whom ethics would seem to benefit the most. Does this make them "unethical"? I'm not prepared to pass judgement on them even if it where possible to pass a judgement.
I wish architects where instilled a set of humanist ethics. I just don't see it happening since so many are still obsessed about defining what is "of our time". My guess is sustainability is as good a yard stick for what is humanist since we depend on this planet to sustain our humanity, so we need to treat it right. Some will focus on cool enviro-technology while others might focus on dense transit oriented development to minimize our foot print on this planet and still others on re-cycling. I don't mean to be splitting hairs, but this is the conundrum with this kind of broad inquary like 'ethical architecture'.
It's an interesting topic though and you've given as good an answer as I've read.
Thank you for your response. I appreciate that. To have said what you said shows that you are seeking answers. I don't have all the answers but I have some leads to some of the doubts you have.
The professional body I am referring to is the AIA, or similar regulatory body. Yes, it is not the strongest organization but it still has some legitimacy. Sometimes on ethical matters effects show in different ways across a long time span. Not having an immediate impact does not mean no impact.
Your 'Jesus' example is telling. Anyone can call him, 'Lord, Lord' but not everyone will follow his ways, as you suggested. Similarly, there are architects who will treat architecture as a vehicle for glory, fame or wealth, or simply, as just a job. But what is that to you? That seems to be the most important question: we are still responsible for ourselves. And so I leave others' plausible 'unethical' behavior to themselves. Where their work or their actions cross my path I oppose as much as I can civilly and leave it as that. It is not my job or mandate to police ethical violations: I can't in a society of democratic equals.
But this does not mean I can't judge, or am unwilling to judge. This is because we are all called to judge everyday from the smallest and most trivial matters to the most critical decisions in our lives. So why this inconsistency to refrain from judgment in ethical matters? Are we fearful? I hope not. Judgment is the hallmark of humanity; and it is hardly just to conflate judgment that condemn, which is a kind of judgment that is heavily abused, and judgment that leads to the distinction between the better and the worse. Ethical judgment often is the latter rather than the former.
I see in my workplace, my school and my society an unwillingness to judge, and so the worse gets worse. But I act differently because I cannot deny this human capacity to see the better from the worse.
On the contrary, I think pluralism to how people interpret sustainability is good. Because over time some things will show for what they are instead of what they seemed.
Maybe it's time for 'necter's to define an appropriate set of ethics for architecture.
Sustainability has been mentioned repeatedly. Also the kind of project - prison, execution facility, etc.
I don't buy the idea that the highest level of work is in itself ethical. "I'll give them the very best torture chamber they've ever seen. 220v outlets conveniently located, acoustic paneling for sound control, floor drains for easy cleanup, etc."
re: your last post Miles, this seems related and I would totally agree (as an outside observer) with your point.
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Do You Hide Money At Home And If So, Where Do You Hide It? [Poll]
The old stereotype of a cheapskate or tightwad usually involves hiding money in a mattress, usually the one they sleep on. Believe it or not, more and more people are hiding money at home because of a growing distrust of banks and other financial institutions. I know an individual here in Evansville who hides money in his garden for crying out loud...the garden!!


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In my first season as a spectator and commentator on professional football, the biggest error in judgement I made was how I thought Casey Creehan would fare in Hamilton as a defensive co-ordinator.
During last year's CFL season preview show on TSN, I picked Hamilton, among many others, to win the Eastern division, due to a prolific offence and a defence that I thought would take a page out of Winnipeg's defensive dominance from 2011. While the Hamilton offence lived up to their billing, to say that the defence that Creehan presided over was disappointing, would be the understatement of the year.
The rationale behind my errant conclusion, was that when in doubt, the system would win out. I reasoned that the scheme we ran in 2011 was of the "plug and play" variety. That you could slot any professional calibre athlete into it, and it would at least be moderately successful, because the premise behind it was so simple and unorthodox. I could not have been more wrong, and I didn't give the Bomber personnel here nearly enough credit.
G.T.F.O. is the acronym that encapsulates this defence, and it stands for "Get the $$ off." The entire front seven is predicated on attacking and getting off of the line of scrimmage at the snap of the football. The goal is vertical penetration and disruption for the defensive line, with the linebackers playing downhill, fast and aggressively. There is no gap control or two-gapping, every player is aligned on a virtual track, and when run correctly, the upfield penetration is supposed to offset any over-reaching offensive play.
As was demonstrated by the CFL-leading, 2011 Winnipeg defence, it can be a devastating scheme when run properly and matched with the right players, but some of the principles it requires are counterintuitive to what many defenders have been taught their entire careers.
Staying on a virtual track is easier said than done when the offence is moving away from you, and your gap -- that of which you have always been responsible for -- is going in another direction.
In addition, "stopping the run on the way to the quarterback," another mandate of this defence, is something that has to be reprogrammed in most defensive linemen.
On potential running downs, defensive linemen are more hesitant and take shorter steps, because they are reacting to what unfolds in front of them, and don't want to be caught out of position. Suppressing these instincts can be a lengthy process, but once again, a requirement of this scheme.
When ran as intended, this scheme produces a lot of losses on first down, and puts the opposition in definite passing situations on second down.
What made the defence so effective in 2011 was the ability to consistently pressure the QB on second-and-long without blitzing and only four rushers, and thereby having eight defenders in coverage.
I spoke with a Tiger-Cat player that played on this defence in 2012, and after being exposed to the system all season, it was evident that he did not believe in its effectiveness. If only a few players don't buy in or believe what is being presented to them, no system has a chance of succeeding.
The other consideration that came from my discussion with this Hamilton player, was that, not really surprisingly, Creehan's abrasive, take-no-prisoners, in-your-face style of coaching, rubbed a number of players and staff the wrong way.
Creehan's demonstrative nature makes practice more exciting for the media and players alike, because he is so animated, so aggressive, and always one trigger away from a verbal or physical confrontation.
There are two schools of thought on this style of coaching. The first is that it is the perfect match for a defensive head coach. Defences require high levels of passion and energy to be effective, and the players have to walk a fine line between hostility and aggravated assault, so having a co-ordinator that embodies these traits can rub off. The other school of thought is that the chest thumping and bumping, tear a strip off someone, hard charging, machismo posturing is all show, and no go, and the players don't respond to it. I happen to think a balance between the two is ideal.
Whether the players didn't respond to Creehan's style of coaching in Hamilton, were ill equipped to be effective in the system he ran, or just didn't believe in it, Tim Burke and Casey Creehan, both coming off rookie seasons at their respective positions, must be confident that the different ingredients found in Winnipeg, will once again produce the kind of dominant play we witnessed in 2011.
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In an effort to better understand women's birth experiences and develop ways to improve these experiences, the Maternity Center Association created the Listening to Mothers survey. This is the first time that women in the U.S. have been systematically polled at the national level about their maternity experiences. The survey focuses the discussion of maternity care in the U.S. on the people who care about it most: mothers. Find out what birth is like for moms today.
1. Technologically intensive labor is the norm. Though 45 percent of women agreed that "giving birth is a natural process that should not be interfered with unless absolutely medically necessary," a majority of women reported having each of the following interventions while giving birth: electronic fetal monitoring (93 percent), intravenous drip (86 percent), epidural analgesia (63 percent), artificially ruptured membranes (55 percent), artificial oxytocin to strengthen contractions (53 percent), bladder catheter (52 percent) and stitching to repair an episiotomy or a tear (52 percent).
2. Natural childbirth has virtually dropped off the radar screen. While 20 percent of mothers indicated that they used no medications for pain relief, there were virtually no "natural childbirths" among the mothers surveyed. Even mothers having a vaginal birth experienced a wide array of medical interventions including: being attached to an electronic fetal monitor continuously or nearly so throughout labor (93 percent); being connected to an IV line (85 percent); having their membranes artificially ruptured (67percent); being given artificial oxytocin to start or stimulate labor (63 percent); having a gloved hand inserted into their uterus after birth (58 percent); using a catheter to remove urine (41 percent); getting an episiotomy (35 percent); and having pubic hair shaved (5 percent). Less than one percent of mothers gave birth without at least one of these interventions, and almost all of these came from the very small group (also less than one percent) of home births in the sample.
3. Obstetricians provide the majority of prenatal care. Although midwives received very high ratings in terms of the quality of this care, obstetricians still provided prenatal care to three-fourths (77 percent) of mothers and delivered 80 percent of the babies of survey mothers. Midwives provided prenatal care to 13 percent of mothers and attended 10 percent of the births. Family physicians provided prenatal care for seven percent of our respondents and attended four percent of their births. While a small number (five percent) of women relied on doulas (trained labor assistants), this type of caregiver was rated highest in terms of quality of supportive care during labor.
4. Labor induction is skyrocketing. Almost half (44 percent) of all mothers and half (49 percent) of those giving birth vaginally reported that their caregiver tried to induce labor, most commonly through the use of artificial oxytocin. Almost one-fifth (18 percent) of mothers cited a nonmedical explanation as the only reason for the attempted induction, and another 16 percent cited a nonmedical reason along with a medical indication as the reason for the attempted induction. Five percent reported choosing labor induction to be able to give birth with the caregiver of their choice. In four out of five women, the induction did in fact cause labor to begin.
5. Epidural anesthesia is the pain-reliever of choice. Almost two-thirds of the mothers in this survey used epidural analgesia, including 59 percent who had a vaginal birth. Mothers gave high ratings to the ability of epidurals to relieve labor pain (78 percent), but many (38 to 83 percent) were not aware of potential risks of this pain relief method. Three out of ten women reported being given narcotics, such as Demerol or Stadol, while a small number of moms had general anesthesia (five percent), nitrous oxide (two percent) or a local block (two percent). Eighty-eight percent of mothers used at least one "drug-free" method for pain relief. Most commonly used were breathing techniques (61 percent) and position changes (60 percent). Three out of ten women used hands-on techniques, such as massage, stroking or acupressure, and the same number used mental strategies, such as visualization, relaxation and hypnosis. Two infrequently cited techniques, immersion in a tub or pool (six percent) and taking a shower (eight percent), were rated most helpful by their users.
6. Eating and drinking is rarely permitted during labor. Just one woman out of eight in the survey (12 percent) had anything to eat during labor, and one in three (31 percent) had anything to drink at this time. Far more women expressed an interest in drinking and/or eating, and many reported that their caregivers did not permit eating and/or drinking, even in the case of vaginal births.
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7. Most women labor in bed and give birth on their back. Once contractions were well-established, most mothers (71 percent) did not walk around, primarily because they were hooked up to instruments, could not walk because of pain medications or were told by their caregivers not to walk around. Three out of four (74 percent) women who give birth vaginally reported that they were on their backs while pushing their baby out and giving birth. The rest were either in an upright position (23 percent) (such as propped up, squatting or sitting) or lying on their side (three percent). Learn more about birthing positions from Lamaze.com.
8. Fetal monitoring has become standard. Nearly all women in the study had electronic fetal monitoring (EFM) some time during labor (93 percent) to record their baby's heartbeat. Most women using EFM were monitored continuously and most had only external monitoring around their bellies. Only six percent of the mothers were not attached to a fetal monitor. Their babies' heartbeats were checked using a handheld device, such as a "doppler" or stethoscope.
9. One quarter of women give birth by cesarean. Almost one fourth (24 percent) of mothers had a cesarean delivery. About half (51 percent) of these were planned, predominantly among women with a previous cesarean delivery. Compared to women who gave birth vaginally, those with cesareans were less likely to "room in" with their babies and breastfeed at one week, and more likely to experience several health concerns after the birth, including abdominal pain, bladder and bowel difficulties, headaches or backaches. For women who had a cesarean, pain in the area of the surgical incision was the leading postpartum health concern, with five out of six of these mothers citing it as a problem in the first two months and one in fourteen citing it as a problem at least six months after birth.
10. VBAC is becoming less available as an option for women. Of women with a previous cesarean, about one in four (26 percent) had a vaginal birth. About two in five (42 percent) women with a previous repeat cesarean were denied the option of a VBAC, with that figure increasing to 58 percent for mothers who had given birth most recently, during the year before the survey. Medical concerns (unrelated to the uterine scar) and caregiver unwillingness were the leading reasons for denial of a VBAC. A smaller proportion reported hospital unwillingness. The willingness of caregivers and hospitals to permit vaginal birth after a previous cesarean birth declined substantially for women who had given birth within 12 months of the survey, as compared to those who had given birth from 12 to 24 months earlier.
Source: The Maternity Center Association's Listening to Mothers survey
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Players take blame for woes [8:53 AM]
Buffalo News reports: '"It's all on the players," Adams said. "Gregg is the head coach, and he'll take the brunt, but it's not his fault. Look at us. A good head coach will take responsibility. He's taking responsibility. But the burden lies on our heads."'
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Buffalo News reports: 'With a record of 4-4, the Bills' playoff hopes are far from dead. But they probably will have to go 6-2 in the second half of the season - and win all three of their remaining AFC East games - to make the playoffs. Given their ugly performances in each of their last three losses, it obviously will take a stunning turnaround to do it.'
Bledsoe Sr. teaches parenting [5:15 AM]
Rochester D&C reports: 'Drew Bledsoe recalled being intimidated as a New England Patriot by the sight of Buffalo Bills defensive end Bruce Smith in the tunnel of Rich Stadium before the start of Bledsoe�s first NFL game. However, he said, the intimidation of being a new parent was worse. �All of a sudden, there was a life � I was responsible for,� Bledsoe said.'
Should Williams go? [5:14 AM]
WGRZ-TV reports: 'His team simply isn�t tough enough mentally, which is something he vowed he would have when coming here from his previous stint as defensive coordinator of the Tennessee Titans.'
The Bills Begin The Bye Week With Gregg Williams At The Helm [5:13 AM]
WGR-AM reports: 'Gregg Williams was front and center at Tuesday's Bills practice. That pretty much tells us he'll be on the sideline a week from Sunday in Dallas.'
Bills RB Henry feels underutilized in red zone [6:10 PM]
AP reports: '''Man, I don't know. I'm searching for answers myself,'' Henry said. ''You would think I would get the ball in certain situations in which I'm not getting it.'''
Bills' Milloy fined $25,000 for knocking over official [6:09 PM]
AP reports: 'The NFL said it happened during a running play in the third quarter in which Milloy made ''impermissible physical contact with a game official.'''
Burning Questions [6:08 PM]
CNN/SI reports: 'Which big-name QB isn't getting it done?'
Buffalo Bills at Midseason [3:42 PM]
BuffaloBills.com reports: 'In all, 14 NFL teams have between four and six wins (only the 8-0 Chiefs have more than that) and only five AFC teams have more wins than the Bills.'
Bills add Toyota to sponsors list [3:06 PM]
Business First of Buffalo reports: 'The car maker will also receive marketing exposure in parking lots surrounding the stadium with each lot bearing the name of a different Toyota vehicle and Toyota brands will be identified on all parking passes for each area.'
Bills and Toyota Announce Partnership [3:05 PM]
BuffaloBills.com reports: 'The Bills announced that the team has reached a multi-year agreement with Toyota that makes the company the official car and truck of the Buffalo Bills.'
The Bills still have time to correct flaws [2:03 PM]
Olean Times Herald reports: 'Still, it�s worth noting that Kansas City was also 8-8 last year and the only significant changes from 2002 are the addition of three defensive starters: end Vonnie Holliday (Green Bay), linebacker Shawn Barber (Philadelphia) and cornerback Dexter McCleon (St. Louis). That trio hardly compares to the Bills� off-season signings ... especially Spikes, Milloy and Adams.'
Williams avoids queries on job status [8:55 AM]
Buffalo News reports: 'The Bills have not played to their potential for much of the season. The Bills have a very good game against Washington and an uninspiring overtime victory over Cincinnati to show for the last six weeks. Players haven't seemed to completely embrace his approach, which might explain why the Bills often seem as if they're going in different directions, especially when they get behind. Buffalo's latest effort might have been the ugliest.'
Now is time to say bye to Williams [8:54 AM]
Buffalo News reports: 'It's not going to get any better with Williams and Gilbride. The old poker player has to realize he's holding a bad pair. Time for Donahoe to throw in his hand.'
Weary Bills need a lot more than rest [5:15 AM]
Rochester D&C reports: 'With eight games to play, there is time to salvage the season but the challenge is daunting. Buffalo�s final eight opponents are a combined 34-23.'
Where do the Buffalo Bills go from here? [5:14 AM]
Rochester D&C reports: 'Hey, fans and media can�t feel foolish for believing this team was playoff worthy. Some of the biggest names in the national media picked them to win the Super Bowl. I mean, three years into the Tom Donahoe-Gregg Williams Era, and the dots were starting to connect. How did we know that once you connected all those dots, the image formed would be of a guy wrapping his fingers around his throat?'
Buffalo Bills replay [5:13 AM]
Rochester D&C reports: 'Never mind Dallas� suspect record. Ponder this: The coaching matchup is Bill Parcells vs. Gregg Williams.'
One play at a time [5:12 AM]
Pittsburgh Morning Sun reports: '"The main thing was that it was nice to know that the organization had confidence in me and that they wanted me to be their guy for a number of years to come," he said. "To be able to come into a season that way was a plus as opposed to the first two seasons not knowing what my future would be."'
Inside slant [5:11 AM]
CBS Sportsline reports: 'The Bills have come unglued in every phase, especially on the road where they have now been outscored 85-15 in their last three games away from Ralph Wilson Stadium - at Miami, at the Jets and at Kansas City.'
Strategy and personnel [5:10 AM]
CBS Sportsline reports: 'As for head coach Gregg Williams, he did not have this team ready to play, plain and simple.'
Notes, quotes, anecdotes [5:09 AM]
CBS Sportsline reports: 'LT Jonas Jennings left the Kansas City game with a hip injury. X-rays taken at Arrowhead Stadium were negative and it is believed that Jennings will be OK to play in Dallas Nov. 9, Buffalo's next game.'
Bledsoe, Bills continue to disappoint on the road [5:08 AM]
Fox Sports reports: 'Here's another stat to chew on: Bledsoe is 2-15 on the road against teams that finished the season with a winning record since 1998. It may not be all his fault, but Bledsoe certainly doesn't lead his team to many big victories on the road.'
Williams Avoids Any Job Status Talk [5:07 AM]
WGR-AM reports: '"I coach every day as hard as I can and as I said earlier in the year, I will not comment on those things."'
Bills fans not happy with coaching after KC game [5:06 AM]
WGRZ-TV reports: '15% now say his contract should be extended.
75% say it should not.
9% aren't sure.'
The Day After: Gregg Williams Comments [5:05 AM]
BuffaloBills.com reports: '"We played the best team in the AFC record wise and we weren't precise enough, especially in the first half or really in any part of the ballgame to beat a team like that on the road. We had our opportunities early in the ballgame. We had very good field position in the first half offensively. We weren't able to match any plays that they made and we gave up too many big plays in the first half. Our defense has been pretty solid on not giving up big plays but we gave up big plays in this ballgame. In the second half, defensively, we came out pretty strong forcing five punts out of seven possessions in the second half but we turned the ball over. Special teams played solid in both halves but we didn't get the offense or the defense clicking."'
Bills reeling heading into bye week [8:35 PM]
AP reports: 'In his last six games, Bledsoe has averaged just over 200 yards passing, and combined for three touchdowns and seven interceptions.'
Chiefs not eager to talk about streak [8:34 PM]
AP reports: 'Scoring three touchdowns against the Bills, Holmes looked sharper and quicker than he had all year.'
Chiefs prove 8-0 is no fluke [3:23 PM]
Independence Examiner reports: 'Luck has nothing to do with this team's success. It's hard work and dedication that has them savoring a perfect start.'
Stink, stank, stunk [3:04 PM]
Niagara Falls Reporter reports: 'It may seem difficult to imagine after witnessing Buffalo's abject loss in Kansas City on Sunday night, but the Bills have played as feebly and with as little life several times in their 44-season history. There was the time in 1968 that the Oakland Raiders obliterated Buffalo 48-6 -- on the Bills home field, no less. There was the time the Seattle Seahawks, in just their second season of existence, routed Buffalo 56-17 in O.J. Simpson's last game with the Bills. There was the Sunday afternoon in Foxboro, Mass., in 1997 when Billy Joe Hobert forgot his playbook, helping New England to a 33-6 pulverizing of the Bills. There was the 44-20 loss on a Monday night in Indianapolis in the waning weeks of the 2000 season that wasn't nearly that close. And let's travel all the way back to Oct. 10, when the Bills staged an equally pathetic performance while watching the previously winless New York Jets prance to a 30-3 victory. There's a theme to the first four hideous defeats mentioned above -- none of the head coaches responsible -- Joe Collier, Jim Ringo, Marv Levy or Wade Phillips -- kept their jobs the next season.'
Chiefs looking title-bound [1:18 PM]
MSNBC reports: 'On Sunday, they either sacked Bills quarterback Drew Bledsoe or intercepted his passes until the Bills fell so far behind that Buffalo coach Gregg Williams gave the universal signal of surrender by pulling his starting quarterback to avoid seeing him end up in traction.'
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Ok boys and girls I'm looking for advise for my first "Grand" outing of the year!
I think I know most of the answers and ways to go but please humor me, by helping me you may also answer others and bring up new ideas.
This Saturday my wifes family is coming over (7 people in total eating at 8:30 +/-), and I'm firing up the grill(s) to impress!
My plan is this:
A three +/- plound Brisket.
A Beercan Chicken
Smoked Sausage (cooking time?)
With Pepper poppers as an appetizer and fries and cesar salad as sides.
A veritable festival of Cholesterol merriment!
At my disposal 650 square inches of Weber grilling power and my Masterbuilt 7-in-1.
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Fire the Brisket, ribs, and sausage on the webber. Obviously staggered for time. (suggestions?)
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Part of Speech: Noun
Meaning: A arboreal rodent with a long, bushy tail, common in the Americas, Europe, and parts of Asia.
Notes: A squirrelly squirrel squirrelling nuts awayToday's Good Word refers to an animal so common that it has acquired an entourage of relatives. Squirrelly started out meaning "like a squirrel", but quickly slid into "crazy, jumpy, nervous". (That is the nickname by which my son the architect calls his older daughter.) This word also was "verbed", as Calvin of the "Calvin and Hobbes" cartoon strip once put it. To squirrel something away is to hide it like squirrels store nuts for the winter, either burying them in the ground or putting them away in their nests.
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JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A 25-year-old man is accused of peeping at a Jacksonville tanning salon.
Clifton Jameson is a regular at SOL US tanning salon at 3546 St. Johns Bluff Road South on the Southside, according to police, and officers said that on nine visits, surveillance video caught Jameson looking over the walls of tanning booths.
Police were called to the tanning salon Wednesday and a woman told them that Jameson watched her undress while she was inside a tanning booth. She said she saw him in a mirror as he was on top of the wall of the booth next to her.
The woman said she got dressed, told the staff what happened and waited until Jameson's session was over, police said.
The salon's manager identified Jameson to police and said he likes the bed in the center booth of the salon, where he tanned during his most recent visits, police said.
Investigators said they viewed surveillance videos of those visits, which they said showed Jameson looking over the walls of other booths.
Jameson was arrested at his Baymeadows apartment.
Jameson was booked into the Duval County jail on one count of voyeurism. He was being held with bail set at $50,000.
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The 50th Ohio Infantry was organized at Camp Dennison near Cincinnati, Ohio and mustered in for three years service on August 27, 1862 under the command of Colonel J. R. Taylor. The regiment was recruited in Allen, Auglaize, Belmont, Hamilton, Preble, Putnam, Shelby, Tuscarawas, and Van Wert counties. On December 31, 1864, the 99th Ohio Infantry was consolidated into the 50th Ohio Infantry.
The regiment was attached to 34th Brigade, 10th Division, Army of the Ohio, September 1862. 34th Brigade, 10th Division, I Corps, Army of the Ohio, to November 1862. District of West Kentucky, Department of the Ohio, to May 1863. Unattached, 2nd Division, XXIII Corps, Department of the Ohio, to August 1863. Unattached, 1st Division, XXIII Corps, to September 1863. District of South Central Kentucky, 1st Division, XXIII Corps, to April 1864. 3rd Brigade, 4th Division, XXIII Corps, to June 1864. 3rd Brigade, 2nd Division, XXIII Corps, Army of the Ohio, to February 1865, and Department of North Carolina to June 1865.
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Ordered to Covington, Ky., September 1. Defense of Cincinnati, Ohio, against Kirby Smith's threatened attack. Moved to Louisville, Ky., September 20. Pursuit of Bragg into Kentucky October 1–15. Battle of Perryville, Ky., October 8. Moved to Lebanon, Ky., and duty there until February 1863. At Muldraugh's Hill, Ky., building fortifications and bridges over Sulphur and Rolling Forks of Green River until September. Also built Forts Boyle, Sands and McAllister. Ordered to Nashville, Tenn., September 18; thence to Gallatin, Tenn., and to Glasgow, Ky., and to Knoxville, Tenn., December 25. March across mountains to Jacksboro December 26, 1863 to January 7, 1864. Duty there until February 22. At Knoxville and Loudoun until May. Moved to Cleveland, Tenn., thence march to Kingston, Ga., and joined Sherman's army May 23, 1864. Atlanta Campaign May 23-September 8. Kingston May 24. Operations on line of Pumpkin Vine creek and battles about Dallas, New Hope Church and Allatoona Hills May 25-June 5. Operations about Marietta and against Kennesaw Mountain June 10-July 2. Pine Hill June 11–14. Lost Mountain June 15–17. Muddy Creek June 17. Noyes Creek June 19. Kolb's Farm June 22. Assault on Kennesaw June 27. Nickajack Creek July 2–5. Chattahoochie River July 6–17. Decatur July 19. Howard House, Atlanta, July 20. Siege of Atlanta July 22-August 25. Utoy Creek August 5–7. Flank movement on Jonesboro August 25–30. Battle of Jonesboro August 31-September 1. Lovejoy's Station September 2–6. Camp at Decatur until October 4. Pursuit of Hood into Alabama October 4–26. Nashville Campaign November-December. Columbia, Duck River, November 24–27. Columbia Ford November 28–29. Battle of Franklin November 30. Battle of Nashville December 15–16. Pursuit of Hood to the Tennessee River December 17–28. Moved to Clifton, Tenn., and duty there until January 16, 1865. Movement to Washington, D.C., thence to Smithville, N. C., January 16-February 10. Operations against Hoke February 12–14. Fort Anderson February 18–19. Town Creek February 19–20. Capture of Wilmington February 22. Campaign of the Carolinas March 1-April 26. Advance on Goldsboro, N. C., March 6–21. Occupation of Goldsboro and Raleigh. Bennett's House April 26. Surrender of Johnston and his army. Duty at Raleigh until May 5, and Greensboro and Salisbury until June.Casualties
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Hello people, I'm new to this website and this is my first post.I have a question and I hope I can get an answer.
I have a good experience with web-development, but no legal knowledge, which I think I want to improve.
So, the thing is that years before I purchased a local domain name in my country. It is a .GE domain TLD. It was that I was going to create a celebrity web-site and host it someplace under that domain, but I never did it.
However, then after some years, I decided to work on it and recently I finished a website. I did not upload it though, nor payed for a hosting service because of my thoughts about its legal issues.
Site is including songs, videos, movies, photos, poems, articles and other stuff, in size it's more than 20 GB, size is not an issue thought. It's copyright, etc. (legal affairs)
I have seen many similar sites (from fans to fans) and it inspired me that I won't have any legal issues, but I don't think things are that good.
These materials I have from internet for free, and my website is going to be non-profit as well, but legal institutions would call my behavior as stealing materials from internet with no rights to publish them. So, I might get sued to pay or even they could send me to jail, I guess.
Is there ways to avoid a lawsuit? Maybe if my website won't be in English and only in my local language it would help? Maybe not having files uploaded on my webserver, but having them link to other servers? Maybe a little message telling that I am not responsible and things like that?
I really need help, because I put a lot of work into this website and I believe it is one of my best works.
To be precise, I want to ask if I should give up and forget about the time and energy I wasted or is there any way of succeeding in this affair.
Thank you very much.
Hi there,
Welcome to the forums.
In my opinion, it's quite simple: if you publish copyrighted material to which you don't hold the copyright, you'll open yourself to getting sued.I'm in Germany and I remember reading a case about a teenager who published copyrighted photos of Robbie Williams on their personal (non-profit) website.Predictably, they got sued by the copyright holders. The cost of purchasing these photos would have been 600€, but he or she was sued for 10,000€, as the lawyers work on a percentage basis.The teenager's parents said "We're not paying" and the case found its way to court.Unfortunately for them, the judge upheld the amount. The last I heard they were seeking help from the Minister for Justice (as being sued for 10,000€ over a 600€ copyright infringement is scandalous). I don't know if they were successful.
I'm not a lawyer, but my advice would be don't do it Look on the episode as a learning experience and maybe try to use parts of the project elsewhere.
That said, I'm not a lawyer. I'll watch this thread with intrest to see what other people think.
Hello Pull, thanks for your post and a welcome.
It is a nice example that you gave, I have also heard about similar cases. Prince, for example sued his fans for a large amount of money. Probably all the celebrities' estates would do the same.
However, my case is slightly different, because of the place I am coming from. I live in the eastern Europe, namely Georgia. This country serves domain names under .GE TLD. In here it is like you can find almost anything over the internet, new application license keys, any kind of videos for free, premium website templates, etc. This refers to a situation where there are basically no laws to offend you, so people almost do whatever they wish over internet, most of them (including me) have no much idea about legal matters.
This is why my question is a slightly non-professional and hopes for a happy-risk.
Thanks for watching this thread, I hope there will be some sort of legal advice as well, for example what are the options for making my website legit.
No problem
I know what you mean.I was visiting some friends in the Ukraine a couple of years back and it came up in conversation that one of them had some computer problems.I offered to have a look at her laptop and was quite shocked to see just how much software she had. All of it was very expensive and most of it she didn't even need.She told me the same thing as you (that you can get almost anything you want online for free) and she just laughed when I said that I pay for my software.This lady was over 50, with a good job (by the country's standards), so not your average teenage cracker / pirate.
FWIW you can find all of the same things here online, if you know where to look.I just prefer to pay for my software / music / videos, because I can.This is probably quite a Western attitude.
Good luck with your site.
My advice is to try it out. If there are people that use software worth more than 500 dollars why shouldn't you use couple of pictures and videos. If the website become successful and you decide to make it profitable you can make it all legal in very easy way, for example to websites like dailymail.co.uk use images hosted on services like gettyimages.com but the can be highly expensive. Good luck,
Apart from the fact that you're advising somebody to take action which, as already stated, is illegal, would you be happy with somebody stealing content - pictures, videos, etc. - from your website? Content for which you may well have had to pay a good price?
Apart from the fact that you're advising somebody to take action which, as already stated, is illegal, would you be happy with somebody stealing content - pictures, videos, etc. - from your website? Content for which you may well have had to pay a good price?
He should just use the holes in the net. He will not be the only one, tons of pirated software is being downloaded every day why should't he use couple of pictures. But that's just my advice, its his decision.
Because it's theft, and theft is illegal. People get murdered every day. Does that make it OK to go out and kill somebody, because other people are doing it?
Because it's theft, and theft is illegal. People get murdered every day. Does that make it OK to go out and kill somebody, because other people are doing it?
Listen Mr.TechnoBear obviously we have different experience and opinion, lets end this argument and let Pullo decide what he wants to do on his own.
I'm with TechnoBear, but I don't think you meant me ...
Just to be not worried about it I wouldn't do it. I don't know what country are you from and what is the law there because I think you are obliged to obey law of your country first. Anyway if the material is really copyrighted you can get into trouble. Of course the chances are quite low - but it is your choice. The chances of getting caught while stealing a snickers from the store are also low but that does not mean you should try it.
Can't you remove the copyrighted stuff and lanuch the website without them???