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NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX 512: More Than Just More Memoryby Derek Wilson on 11/14/2005 9:00 AM EST
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Gogar - Saturday, November 19, 2005 - linkThe only thing i'm still wondering about is what the performance difference between the 1800XT and the 7800GTX 512 would be if a dual core processor was used.
Since Nvidia makes use of dual core with their drivers, the gap might be even wider.. but who knows? Reply
Regs - Friday, November 18, 2005 - linkI doubt Nvidia cared about it's price/performance one bit. This card is just a spin-off to show what 512 MB's can do....(nothing). You give a GTX a 120 MHz core speed bump with a 200 MHz RAM bump and of course it's going to perform better than the GTX 256. Pure marketing. 700 dollars? What target market is this? And even better that they decided to keep the name to make it more confusing. Let's see how much money we can squeeze out of you by putting in more RAM which Vendors all ready have ordered in Bulk 8 months ago. Reply
Regs - Friday, November 18, 2005 - linkIn other words you are paying 300 dollars more for a GTX with a better HSF unit. Reply
cryptonomicon - Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - linkawesome card, i'm a bit confused though as to what nvidia was trying to release it as though.
the boosted clock speeds are typical of the mid-quarter 'refresher' products (same core, with boosted stats) but it also is posing as the same product but in a 512mb variation.
i think it should have a new model name (*agree* with derek!) Reply
MadAd - Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - linkLOL! Thats what I thought, I wonder if he read the same review as we did? 2x GTs SLId are either within a couple of fps, or between 10-20 fps higher. Considering the GT is just over 200 here, I can get 2 and add an extra 50 for an sli board (over a non sli) and still save 50 notes.
As for soundcards, well its not a soundcard review so I dont want sound complicating anything. If I was really perdantic i'd say ATs review of the motherboard showed the a8n32 to be several FPS above all the rest of the mobos currently and would skew the data higher than normal boards, but thats not the point, the point is about comparability on the same platform.
Finally, another thanks goes to Derek for the higher resolution coverage - although some here are mystified why resolutions above 1600x1200 are mentioned, well some of us have TFTs with native resolutions of 1920x1200 and anything lower has to be either stretched or windowed- thats not what I paid all that money to do, I want fullscreen lovelyness at full res and right now, thanks to Dereks patience, I can see that the minimum setup to enjoy all current games with FSAA at 1920x1200 is 2xGTs. Even the GTX512 isnt quite man enough. Reply
MadAd - Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - linkOOps, that was in reply to:
RE: Newegg has it!!!! by viciousvee on: Nov 14, 2005 10:53 PM
Might want to read the Review again (just a thought) but the GT SLI pretty much beats the GTX 512mb ("NON SLI") by a few FPS... So I stand by what I said, Get "TWO" GT's (7800) and Call it a day.... Reply
Eidolon - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkI am guessing you cannot SLI this card with an existing 7800 GTX 256MB. Is this correct? Reply
Fluppeteer - Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - linkISTR Tom's tried it, and no, you can't. (Presumably the core is tweaked
just enough that it doesn't work.)
Maybe nVidia will fix that in a new driver?
jeffrey - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkDerek,
I have been an open critic of some of your recent work, but this review was fairly solid. Don't sweat someone saying a sentence was a run-on. The review read as an unbiased work and was inquisitive where it needed to be.
Thanks for including the disclaimer for multiple-clocks on lowering the core clock. The addition of the 256mb vs. 512mb benchmarks was a welcome addition.
That's all,
ElJefe - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkEh. I dont see the point of playing at 1600 yet, so I wouldnt be TOO concerned with needing to upgrade. Obviously, this is an amazing card though, so that cant be said enough.
anything over 300 dollars for a non all-in-wonder vid card is a ripoff though. x800XL is still more than adequate. Dont listen to the hype.
stephenbrooks - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkShh don't say that or they'll deliberately start making games with detail that can only be seen at 1600x1200 to drive hardware sales... :) Reply
ElFenix - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkby testing power consumption with and without SLI/crossfire you can figure out the consumption of a single card with pretty decent accuracy. Reply
Leper Messiah - Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - linkum, if you read the review, they said that they had to run two different circuts in their testing room due to the power draw, on two different PSUs. I guess that you could put two measuring devices up, but IDK how accurate that's going to be...
Nice card BTW. Makes my 9800pro look like Intel's intergrated graphics... Reply
ElFenix - Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - linkyeah, i saw that part. but they don't have to do it on just the SLI'd 512. in fact, they could do it with any card, subtract out two cards worth of power to find out the base consumption of the system, and then subtract from the 512 to get just the 512's consumption.
it's just a thought. Reply
PrinceGaz - Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - linkSounds to me like the AT lab in question really needs to be looked over by an electrician if the mains circuit can't supply enough power to run a few computers. Here in the UK, even domestic households should have 13 amp sockets (which with our 230V mains voltage is equivalent to 3KW power), and a typical ring main circuit will be rated for some 30amps (or 7KW). You can run a helluva lot of computers with up to 7KW of juice available on each ring, and this is just an average home. Of course the electric bill will be a bit scary if you do use that much :)
I know things aren't so good in the US as you are only on 110V mains-supply so either the wires need to be a lot thicker to carry the higher current (nearly 30 amps for 3KW, and over 60 amps for 7KW), but still you shouldn't have a problem drawing say 2KW or so. Or is it normal for US mains wiring to be rubbish? Reply
bob661 - Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - link
quote:Old homes usually have crappy wiring over here. I ran about 15 computers off of a 15 A breaker before tripped at a LAN party. Reply
Or is it normal for US mains wiring to be rubbish?
bob661 - Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - linkI wish for an edit button. That said, I ran those 15 computers in a new house (newer than 5 years). Reply
Live - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkNice review! Still have a question tough:
Considering this cooler uses heat pipes how does the orientation of the card affect performance? It looks to me that if positioned with the cooler on the downside as in a normal ATX tower the heat is traveling downwards instead of up as it should. This should in theory affect performance negatively. Granted the angel and distance is not that great but it would be nice to know.
The reason I ask it that many of the test done on review sites are done on an open test bed with desktop style orientation of the motherboard. How AnandTech test I don't know but if orientation affect cooling the reviews seen today might be off in temperatures, sound and I guess overclocking.
Other comments:
As always on AT I miss minimum fps and/or some time scale to see how much of the time the card drops under say 30 fps or whatever is "unplayable" in different titles.
CPU scaling would be nice to but I guess that is for another article.
I also really think you should consider building up some testing methodology for sound. It does not have to be exact. Just use quiet watercooling like the reserator from Zalman and passive PSU and sound proof the test area a bit and buy a good soundmeter and you should be set to go. Considering the budget of AT and the considerable benefit for the readers I can't se how that would be a high cost. Noise matters! Reply
AtaStrumf - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkJust thought I'd drop by and tell you all that Black & White 2 runs just fine on R9600XT/A643000+(S754) machine at 1280*1024, so it's not as demanding as you made it out to be, if you only turn off some GPU raping quality settings. Thumbs up to Lionhead for that.
Nice card nVidia! Now that you've crushed ATi AGAiN, how 'bout you get to work on the 7600GT eh???
Yea ATi have become the Intel of GPUs (high clocks, not so good performance, failed launches), and nVidia looks even better than AMD (relatively low clocks, high performance, great launches). But let's not forget ATi has the XBOX360 just around the corner and nVidia still has some time to play till PS3 comes out, so I'd guess they had more spare time on their hands or something.
As for my pseudo X850 XT looking like a dog in this graphs, let's not forget we're talking 1600x1200 @ HIGHEST QUALITY!!! here. It's still a fine card for the money (born from X800GTO2 ;-) though CoD2 is a real performance hog and I don't really know why. Probably some stupid quality setting, we'd be better off without.
2005 was nVidia's year but I'm willing to bet in 2006 we'll see ATi coming back strong. R580 should be the breakthrough I think. Reply
Deku - Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - link
quote:"Just thought I'd drop by and tell you all that Black & White 2 runs just fine on R9600XT/A643000+(S754) machine"
Just thought I'd drop by and tell you all that Black & White 2 runs just fine on R9600XT/A643000+(S754) machine
I've got Black and White 2, and a Radeon 9550 and it works generally fine...problem is, I can't change detail levels of features such as vegetation or water detail to at least a decent state...it's unavailable to me, and I've sent an email to Lionhead and they haven't replied yet...do you need some high-end card to get it to work or something? Lionhead obviously didn't realize that not everyone in the world's going to buy a new computer everyday...which really does annoy me. Reply
nourdmrolNMT1 - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linki still need to figure out what to get for my Computer so i can run CSS at native res (1680*1050)
its hard having to always scale the games. Reply
ElFenix - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linki would assume so, seeing as how it would be a very good use of the second slot. but two slot designs don't always do that. Reply
Fluppeteer - Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - linkAt least one picture I've seen (Ars) shows vents in the second slot backplane. The
air seems to blow in both directions. Which is better than nothing, but I might
still have to make some kind of ducting to stop the fans at the front of my
case blowing into the open end of the shroud. This is one reason I prefer water
cooling, but I'm too wary of cooking the RAM if it's not fully cooled.
(Saving up...) Reply
Fluppeteer - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkGood review, good to see some high(er) resolutions being benchmarked.
Thanks for the efforts, people.
Just wondering, have any of the cards other specs changed? Is it still
one dual-link and one single link DVI (the latter run from the chip,
the former from external SiI parts)? (Since the 512MB 6800Ultra was dual
link and the Quadro FX4500 is dual dual link, I thought I'd check.) I'm
still hoping someone will get around to testing the G70's DVI quality on
the single link output for me, since the issue with the 6800.
I don't suppose nVidia took the opportunity to stick some of SiI's
HDCP-capable TMDS transmitters on it, did they? They're playing
catch-up with the X1800, and it would be a good time for them to
spend the extra few dollars on fixing it.
I'd be quite interested in some audio measurements of the fan, too.
Speaking of which, is the airflow actually useful with the Quadro
fan? I've got a lot of air blowing from the front of my case to the
back, and I've suspected that the overheating issues I've seen with
my 6800 are because the card's fan is fighting the case airflow
(for some reason nVidia's fans seem to blow the wrong way round).
Sunbird - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkSo how bad does this spank my 5900XT? :P Reply
bob661 - Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - linkI had one of those. You might be able to dig up an early benchmark on the 6600GT that will show how it compares to the 5900XT. Reply
bob661 - Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - link
quote:http://tinyurl.com/77v66">Here you go. :) Reply
benchmark on the 6600GT that will show how it compares to the 5900XT
Griswold - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkOk, if this peanut represents the 5900XT, the GTX 512 would be the size of a melon. ;) Reply
viciousvee - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkFor the price this is really for people with a "I don't care what it cost" (big) budget! Get 2 GT's (7800 ones) and call it a day. N.E ways Good article but I would like to see more benches with WOW (World of warcraft, even though they don't support SLI setup) and with 2 setups rather than one, one with the AMD 3500+ and the 57! Reply
Spoonbender - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkYou mean, get two GT's (which would cost about the same as one of these, while offering far less performance? No thanks, if I were to spend $6-700, I'd go for the faster solution. Which means this card.
As for the rest, well, why is it relevant? AT is a hardware site, reviewing hardware. They're not benchmarking games to find "the best WoW card", they're benchmarking to find the best card overall. As for the CPU's, what would it add to a review of a card like this? Again, the purpose isn't to tell you "how many fps would you gain if you upgraded your CPU to a FX57?". It's to test this card versus the competition. Reply
viciousvee - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkMight want to read the Review again (just a thought) but the GT SLI pretty much beats the GTX 512mb ("NON SLI") by a few FPS... So I stand by what I said, Get "TWO" GT's (7800) and Call it a day.... Reply
viciousvee - Monday, November 14, 2005 - link
[Q=Spoonbender]As for the rest, well, why is it relevant? AT is a hardware site, reviewing hardware. They're not benchmarking games to find "the best WoW card", they're benchmarking to find the best card overall. As for the CPU's, what would it add to a review of a card like this? Again, the purpose isn't to tell you "how many fps would you gain if you upgraded your CPU to a FX57?". It's to test this card versus the competition.
As for the rest....
You might not understand by what I said... unlike my self and the Millions that play WOW, the game can give your GPU a run for your money, especially when you are in an Instance or even In IF, so It would be nice to see how the nVidia/Ati GPU performs. Not everyone has an FX57 so I was just thinking that it would be cool to see how "well" the GPU's perform with a HIGHEnd Cpu vs a MIDRange CPU is all... don't like it... well then keep it moving. Reply
NullSubroutine - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkIm honestly sick of ATi and Nvidia producing equipment like this, at very low volume, and very high prices. It is not the fault of anandtech, but this review is like a review of two 50 million dollar cars, and finding out which one goes faster or is quicker.
I honestly dont care if people are willing to pay $700 for a video card, these products have become something for only the rich and glamorous of the computing world. I dont see a point in producing and selling these products but simply show "who is better".
I had been more impressed with Nvidia because of thier ability to sell thier GTX in volume, from the day they were released, and always gave ATi crap because they have had problems with this as of late. However, both card companies seem to have monopolized the very super uber top end of video cards, and use each others' product pricing/superiority to justifiy their pricing, and its rediculous.
Next generation, there will be new super king, worth 800 dollars, have only 15 produced and trump anything out there. The generation after that, 900, and so on and so on.
[/rant] Reply
SimonNZ - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkYour entire arguement is wrong, If people are willing to pay for that kind of performance then why shouldnt there be a product for them? Yes the pricing is very high but so are some peoples incomes(or parents) It is only for the rich and glamorous of the computing world, so what so are the two 50 million dollar cars your describe
Im sick of people getting all hyped about high end hardware, chances are your just jealous that you dont or cant have it. Get over it, Reply
bob661 - Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - link
quote:You don't have to be rich to afford a $700 video card. You just have to have $700. :) I've spent FAR more than that on things around the house that I consider to be of less value to me than a sparkly new kick ass video card. Reply
It is only for the rich and glamorous of the computing world,
NullSubroutine - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkWhy should the products be only for the rich and glamorous of the computing world? Do these cards cost any more to produce than other cards such as the GTX or the GT? Even if they justify a small % increase in cost, does this equal 40 to 50 percent increase in price?
If you dont have a problem with such monopolization of a market, then I'm sure you dont have a problem unecessiarily paying extra for things you dont need? Your movie tickets are now not $10 dollars, they are now $15, why? Because they can and people will buy it. You gas prices are now $3.50 a gallon, why? Because people will pay it. Price of fast food is now not $5 dollars per meal, but 7.50, why? Not because there is any reason or increase in cost, but simply because people will pay it.
They have no right to complain, they have a choice and the industry has no responsibility to give fairness to the consumer, because this is America, we can exploit whomever we want. Reply
xsilver - Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - linkI think the essence of what you're trying to say is not that you're comparing the few % difference between $500+ cards but rather the amount of media exposure that they get relative to the amount of sales they generate. That is, if nvidia sells 10,000 of these cards they would be laughing, and there are a whole boatload of reviews priasing nvidia for their prowess. Meanwhile the larger population that are buying 6800gs cards and below; which may generate more than 100,000 sales may have a less informed choice.
this is actually a strategy based on nvidia and ati's part that dates way back and also expands into all sectors of the economy. The thinking behind it is that if you have a class leading product, then the few buyers of such product will priase it so much that people who may not be able to afford the uber expensive product will still buy a cheaper product from the same brand. cant afford a 7800gtx? the 6600gt will be better than the x800xl though because the 7800gtx is best right? - that's what they want you to think.
/end repeating drivel ;) Reply
smitty3268 - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkWhat are you talking about? It's not like these are the only options. You can still buy cheap cards if you want to, so your examples are completely ridiculous. An accurate example would be cars - do you think it costs millions of dollars to make top of the line sports cars? No, but they cost that much because people are willing to pay for them. Still, not everyone can afford that so there are plenty of 10-20K cars for the masses.
And yes, these cards do cost significantly more to produce, because there will be a large number of defective parts when manufacturing a top of the line product. The cost of a card isn't how much silicon is in it, it's how much silicon was used to produce it. Reply
nullpointerus - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkGetting offended at others for simply being different is pointless and counterproductive. Reply
Nighteye2 - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkLooks good, but why test only 4xAA? I'd expect people who are interested in those cards will want to set all graphics quality options as high as possible - at least 8xAA and 16xAF or something.
Pity that wasn't tested, but other than that a good review.
ViRGE - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkAFAIK 4xAA is the last level of AA that's constant between ATI and NV. The X850 tops out at 6xAA(which NV doesn't have), then there's 8xS, and the list goes on... Reply
Griswold - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkThats a beast no less. The only thing ATI can do now is kick off that mysterious R580 and it better have a few more pipes than the 520 at the same or even higher clock speeds - and no paperlaunch this time. Or just give up and get the launch right for the next generation...
Is there any particular reason for only showing nvidia SLI results and no crossfire numbers at all? Reply
Ryan Smith - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkThis is something we discussed when working on this article, and there's really no purpose in testing a Crossfire setup at this point. The X1800 Crossfire master cards are not available yet to test an X1800 setup, and as we noted in our X850 Crossfire review, an X850 setup isn't really viable(not to mention it tops out at 1600x1200 when we test 2 higher resolutions). Reply
Griswold - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkAh well, woulda thought AT has a few master cards in their closet. Guess not. :) Reply
Kyanzes - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkONE WORD: DOMINATION Reply
yacoub - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkVery interesting to see that 512MB has little to no impact on the performance - it is instead almost entirely the clock speed of the GPU and the RAM that makes the difference.
Also, I think this is the first time in PC gaming history where I've seen testing done where video cards more than ~9 months old are all essentially 'obsolete' as far as performance. Even the 7800 GT which only even came out maybe six months ago is already near the bottom of the stack at these 1600x1200 tests, and considering that's what anyone with a 19" or greater LCD wants to ideally play at, that's a bit scary. Then you realize that the 7800GT is around $330 for that bottom-end performance and it just goes up from there. It's really $450-550 for solid performance at that resolution these days. That's disappointing. Reply
ElFenix - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkno one with a 19" desktop LCD is playing a game at any higher than 1280x1024, in which case this card is basically a waste of money. i have a 20" widescreen lcd and i find myself playing in 1280x1024 a lot because the games often don't expand the field of view, rather they just narrow the screen vertically. Reply
tfranzese - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkSLi/XFire scews the graphes. You need to take that into account when looking at the results. Reply
Cygni - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkWe have seen this in every successive generation of video cards. Unless your running AA at high res (ie over 1280x1024), RAM size has little impact on performance. Heck, 64mb is probably enough for the textures in most games. Reply
cw42 - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkYou really should have included COD2 in the tests. I remember seeing a test on another site that showed COD2 benefited GREATLY from 512mb vs 256mb of ram. Reply
Ryan Smith - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkActually, we were hoping to bring you CoD2 benchmarks for this review, but it didn't pan out. We do not equip our video testbeds with sound cards, so that we can more accurately compare cards; the problem with this is that we could not get CoD2 to run without sound, and we ran out of time unable to find a solution. It's still something we'd like to benchmark in the future if we get the chance though. Reply
ElFenix - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkthen benchmark it with sound and disclose that fact... Reply
yacoub - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkDitch DoD:Source for CoD2.
Ditch DOOM3 for Quake4.
Rename FEAR.EXE to anything else .exe (PHEAR.EXE, TEST.EXE, whatever) when benchmarking ATI cards if you're running any of the latest ATI driver sets since they have yet to fix a faulty "IF" code from the FEAR demo that is hindering performance in the full version game. (The fix did not make the latest driver release earlier this week.) It has shown to improve performance by as much as 15fps. Reply
xbdestroya - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkI don't know about that FEAR 'fix' though. I mean how many card owners/PC users will actually know to do that? I think it's more legit to leave the bug in the testing - it is a legitimate bug afterall - and wait for the new Catalyst release where it will be 'fixed' and show the increased performance. Or if that's too strong against ATI, publish an article with benchmarks in FEAR highlighting that bug. But for standard comparisson benchmarks, I think it's best if they're done in as much of an 'out-of-the-box,' load it and play situation as possible. Reply
tfranzese - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkI disagree with the 'out-of-box' notion. A product can't ship as a turd, but this is an enthusiast site. Enthusiasts should have the knowledge to use the proper drivers (not always the latest, which is why I say proper). Reply
xbdestroya - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkWell but has this site even published anythign on that fix? Not to my knowledge. I only know abotu it because I'm on the B3D forums where it originated. I imagine that whoever knows it here knows about it from the AT forums. But the fact is that if you're going to include the 'fix' in benchmarks, you might as well have an article preceding it announcing that this fix even exists, don't you think? Not everyone's a forum-goer; I know there was a time once not-too-long ago were I just went to tech sites and rad the articles, not the forums.
First the article describing this fix to the masses - *then* the banchmarks incorporating it. Don't you think that makes sense? Reply
xbdestroya - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkI wish these posts could be edited after the fact, but alas they can not. Anyway sorry for the bad spelling above.
Basically though, if we're talking about 'enthusiast' sites, the sites should be publishing 'enthusiast' news like the fear.exe fix, right? Then after that article I could agree with it's inclusion in benchmarks, because a precedent has been established. Reply
ElFenix - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkor they could just write a blurb in the article, when they do the fear benches, that you can rename fear to anything else and fix the problem. and then bench it both ways. Reply
xbdestroya - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkSeriously though, it deserves it's own article. If it doesn't deserve that, it doesn't deserve benches mixed in with a 'general' comparison. The vast majority of people don't even read the associated text with benchmarks anyway, so it would probably go unnoticed by quite a few if it just had a short explanation on the FEAR page of a banchmark round-up. Reply
yacoub - Monday, November 14, 2005 - link
For our benchmarks, we test with sound disabled.
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME. Start doing REAL tests. Okay fine, this is your last PEAK FPS test, right? Right?
From now on show us average fps, sound on, etc. What we'll ACTUALLY GET using the card to PLAY the game, not dick-measure it. Reply
Scarceas - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkI see his point and agree with it (but I don't agree with his style).
Sound off is just a way to inflate the numbers, and make the cards look good. To me, a true gamer, I want to know in-game LOWEST fps, with all the options on like I would play with during the actual game.
I don't buy the idea that sound gets in the way of the results due to inconsistencies among sound cards. When it's ATI vs nVidia, they use the same freakin' sound for both tests.
Actually, disabling sound makes more sense if you're wanting to isolate the differences between platforms. For example, when comparing chipsets or processor manufacturers, you would want the sound disabled.
I think, though, with a video card, I need to see what it's going to do in gaming conditions, and I want to see the lowest level of performance as well as the average so that I know what to expect.
Now, do you think an IHV wants to support a website throwing out their lowest numbers when the competition is showing their highest numbers on another site? Anandtech gets privileged information, but with that comes some expectation of promotion. Basically, my idea of benchmarking prolly ain't gonna happen (unless I get rich and fund it myself). Reply
bob661 - Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - link
quote:You sir get a double BZZZTTTT!!!! They're NOT inflating numbers, they're isolating the GPU's as much as possible to test the GPU's without external interference from other components. This is NOT a system test, this is a GPU test. This not that difficult to grasp. Reply
Sound off is just a way to inflate the numbers, and make the cards look good.
tfranzese - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkDo you use that thing in your head much?
We're comparing GPUs here. The bottleneck is the CPU and so it makes perfect sense to disable any utilization caused by audio in order to show what these GPUs are capable of - not the system as a whole. Reply
yacoub - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkHow ridiculous is it that you would defend the review of a GPU that doesn't even show how it would perform in the real world playing the games?
These stupid dick-measuring tests are so utterly pointless when it doesn't help the readership of the site - consumers - to determine how this card will perform in the real world, especially when we know that sound enabled can DRASTICALLY change the CPU usage during gameplay.
It's not THAT hard to have them review with a popular onboard sound solution (ALC850 seems to be on almost every NF4Ultra solution right now) and a popular peripheral sound solution (X-Fi for example) to give the readership a USEFUL review of how the card performs in the real world.
Feel free to keep doing all the current bragging rights tests, but maybe just once have a useful review based in reality. Reply
mlittl3 - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkDude, clam down. There is no way to do system level tests as all systems are different. Do you want them to test every Dell, HP, Gateway, IBM, etc. configuration possible as well as every DIY configuration possible? Things like motherboards, PSUs, memory types (as well as memory timings), sound cards, etc. all effect performance and barely any one on these forums and elsewhere have the exact same rig. Also, adding sound will decrease performance by 5-10 fps. So just interpolate the results.
This article is testing the graphics cards only on a "reference" test system. The title implies as much and no false pretenses were brought forth. If you want to see fps during gameplay, go to hardocp.com. They have a pretty good method similar to what you are asking for.
If Anandtech gave you want you wanted, you would then just complain that they didn't use the right memory timings, the right hard drive, the right motherboard, etc. (and by right I mean what you have in your computer). :) Reply
yacoub - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkSorry but that's a bogus excuse. they take the time to test all these systems with DOOM3 even though Quake4 is out when they could simply test just Quake4 instead of both. They take the time to do other extra tests. Simply testing with a popular onboard sound solution and a popular peripheral sound solution is NOT asking a lot and it's most certainly NOT asking for omg memory timings and omg Dell/HP. Stop exaggerating a simpler request into the realm of the unreasonable. Reply
Houdani - Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - linkYour "simple request" would triple the number of benchmarks.
>> One set with on-board sound.
>> One set with add-in sound.
>> One set with no sound.
And what will it achieve? It'll tell you that on-board sound stinks and add-in sound doesn't. It muddies the scores of the individual components which is what we're comparing here ... one GPU vs the rest.
For the effects of sound on system performance, read a sound card review.
For the effects of memory on system performance, read a memory review.
For the effects of GPU on system performance, read a GPU review.
For the effects of CPU on system performance, read a CPU review.
For the effects of HDD on system performance, read a HDD review.
For the effects of [component] on system performance, read a [component] review.
When I'm selecting components to put in my system I want to know their individual, isolated score. That's more valuable to me than the mish-mash scores. Reply
mlittl3 - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkWell, I just don't see what enabling sound would show other than translating all the scores 5-10 fps lower. The same sound solution should hurt performance the same regardless of what video card you use so why don't you just extrapolate the results by taking into account a small performance hit with sound.
At any rate, you would still be making the same buying decision (the reason for reading a hardware review in the first place) based on the relative performance of each video card tested with respect to each other.
Isn't that not true? Reply
PrinceGaz - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkAll enabling sound with onboard audio solutions would do is shift any bottleneck further towards the CPU. The whole point of graphics-card reviews is to show the card performs, not whether the rest of the system is holding it back. Thats why resolutions up to 2048x1536 are tested.
If you want to minimise audio CPU usage you don't have to spend much money. An Audigy 2 will off-load almost almost all sound overhead from the CPU. An X-Fi will do the same but also supports future EAX models, if they make any difference. If your CPU is holding back your gaming performance and you're using onboard audio, the easiest way to better performance is with a proper soundcard. Reply
yacoub - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linklol
The whole point of graphics-card reviews is to show the card performs, not whether the rest of the system is holding it back. Thats why resolutions up to 2048x1536 are tested.
Dude, how the card actually performs in gaming is how it performs with sound enabled. All we're REALLY seeing in this review is a GPU isolation test. Might as well leave it to the manufacturer to do such things, since it's just dick waving. I'd wager consumers would find it much more useful to see how the card ACTUALLY performs. Reply
bob661 - Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - link
quote:EXACTLY!!!! Which IS the point of these tests! They are intentionally isolating the GPU's because...that's what they're testing! LOL! Anand's been testing the latest and greatest for years now. This is NOT something new here. Reply
All we're REALLY seeing in this review is a GPU isolation test.
Brunnis - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkHuh? Peak FPS? They're testing average FPS. Do you think they would be stupid enough to measure peak FPS. That would make very little sense... Reply
Cygni - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkNo way. Different sound solutions have different overheads, different overheads have different effects on the cards.
Sound off. Its the only way to get an acurate comparison between the cards. Reply
yacoub - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkHoly crap nearly 300watts of power just for the GPU! This could be the first card that really puts a gaming system into the realm of NEEDING a 500watt high-efficiency PSU. Reply
jkostans - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkRead he article, it's system power. Meaning at the outlet. Actual power drawn from the PSU by the system components assuming ~75% efficiency would be around 210 which isn't all that much if you think about it. A 400w PSU is plenty for this system. Reply
bloc - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkGetting silly.
The mainstream people are still looking for the best value for $200. I hope ati doesn't overreact and start releasing a bunch of vid cards to gain the title back. Wait 4-6 months for the next iteration. The mainstream wants 60 fps @ 1024. Offer the best bang for the dollar and we'll rave about it.
Don't waste money on tons of iterations. Just lower the cost of current generation to compete. Anand will do a FPS vs $$ soon enough, cause that's the real measure of value.
For $700 buy an xbox 360 or take a Winter vacation. Reply
xbdestroya - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkWell, my 6800GT can't give me playable in 1280x1024 for CoD2, so that's what we've come to. I would have thought that a card like this wouldn't be needed until sometime next year, but already the level of hardware required by games has takena significant jump since Doom 3. Reply
Calin - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkSome users prefer to run their 17" or 19" LCD at the native resolution (1280x1024). This means they want good performance at that resolution. As for those that have bigger screens, they want even better performance.
Even so, there are lots of good games that run ok on old video cards (even budget old video cards). But if someone chooses a certain level of quality (antialising, resolution, HDR, ...) they want, is great to have a site that present different options (cards). Reply
PrinceGaz - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkIsn't the PS3 supposed to be using a 24-pipe nVidia core running at 550MHz as well? If so, that would almost certainly mean that this card is faster as I bet they are using very similar cores, but the 7800GTX512 has much faster memory than the PS3.
And of course there's always SLI if you want even more performance... Reply
DerekWilson - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkheh ... sli ... let's see, $1400 on two video cards or on 3 or 4 next gen consoles ... or on lots of other cool hardware/software/tvs/movies/games ... whatever
its a fast beast, but its just too pricy :-) Reply
steelmartin - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkI guess if you buy this card you´re doing so partly because you´re interested in running games in the hiqhest quality settings. But afaik it can´t do OpenEXR HDR and AA like in Far Cry, so I think this card is somewhat of a contradiction. Surely it depends on how the appliction uses HDR, like Valve showed with HDR and AA for everyone in Lost Coast. But I would say, not a very futureproof card then, as everyone predicts HDR will be big in games, and I guess a lot of them will use OpenEXR. Still, it will top the charts, for what that´s worth.
And about the extra memory, how about taking the card for a spin with Call of Duty 2? Seems that game takes advantage of 512 MiB.
/m Reply
DerekWilson - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkThe advantage ATI offers is MSAA with floating point HDR. We've already seen a game (Black and White 2) that employs AA and HDR by using Supersample FSAA, and as you pointed out Valves Source engine avoids full float render targets and still gets good results.
The performance hit is larger with SSAA, but it is certainly possible to have HDR and AA without the ability to do MSAA on floating point/multiple render targets. And the sheer brute strenth the 7800 GTX 512 has can easily be spent on SSAA as shown (again) by Black and White 2. Reply
quasarsky - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linki'm an ati fan but this is ridicoulous. ati just gets crushed and crushed. even the regular 7800 gtx gets crushed. but i knew something like this would happen if the 7800 was cranked up to a clockspeed close to the x1800xt. those extra 8 pipes and the extra memory bandwidth just lead to the same thing: crushing all opponents lol. man. is ati the new intel? i hope not :(. but thats how its looking currently :'(.
ha ha i guess my x800xt aiw isn't looking so hot right now :-D. Reply
George Powell - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkBut quite useless for most people who don't run games at statospheric resolutions.
I would really like to see this running at 2560x1600 on the Apple 30".
Ozenmacher - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkThat is some pretty amazing performance. It makes my ATi X800Xl look rather pathetic...sighs Reply
KaPolski - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkGoGo geforce 3 ti500 Woohoo!!!!! trust me it spanks the 7800 gtx 512 down to a carefully squeezed lemon :D Reply
Xenoterranos - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkw00t! I traded my matching-numbers first-run GeForce 3 (Before they were TI'd) in for a 5900. im not upgrading till socket M2 comes a-rolling into the bargain bin. Reply
LoneWolf15 - Monday, November 14, 2005 - link
quote:It's called "marketing". Don't succumb to it.
That is some pretty amazing performance. It makes my ATi X800Xl look rather pathetic...sighs
It it a fast card? Heck yeah. Is it necessary? Far from it. I have an ATI X800XL as well, and I don't plan on switching until I have to. Game developers will continue to make games compatible with our cards for some time to come, and the only thing we'll be missing is Shader Model 3.0. So far, what I have seen of it hasn't been a big enough improvement to encourage me to go out and plunk cash down on a new card. And seeing as my gaming is now measured in hours per week (as opposed to hours per day, like when I worked in a computer store) I couldn't justify spending that kind of bread on something that isn't constantly in use.
I think the 7800GTX 512 is a neat looking toy. But that's just it: it's a toy. I'd rather cover two car payments or two-thirds of a mortgage payment, things I NEED to spend money on Reply
Pythias - Monday, November 14, 2005 - link
At $700 we are a little weary of recommending this part to anyone but the professional gamers and incredibly wealthy. The extra performance just isn't necessary in most cases.
I agree. I also think the $600 dollar pricetag on the x1800xt is a bit much as well. Reply
phusg - Monday, November 14, 2005 - link
At $700 we are a little weary of recommending this part to anyone but the professional gamers and incredibly wealthy.
LOL. Weary != wary and in fact reads as the opposite to what I think you mean in this sentence! Reply
ElFenix - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linki've been asking them to hire an editor for a few years now, but i'm pretty sure they haven't taken my advice yet. every once in a while they post an article that is just unreadable due to the run on and compound sentences.
yacoub - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkIt's worse when you have a journalism degree. It drives you up a wall to read so many grammatical and spelling errors. Even so I'd rather they put the money into doing more 'real world' style tests instead of just these Top of the Charts/ GPU with the Biggest Dick contests. Reply
phusg - Thursday, November 17, 2005 - linkIt could be worse, at least they updated the article to change this comical spelling mistake. Puts them in line with the rest of the computer industry where the testing phase of the development cycle is outsourced to the consumer ;-) Reply
Methusela - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkThis thing just destroys every other single card, and every other SLI configuration in almost every test! Yikes. I guess it had better do so at $700 apiece, though.
Maybe this will push the price of the 7800GT and GTX models down in a couple of weeks? Cost-conscious buyers like myself can only hope so. Reply
route66 - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkSick! Reply
Googer - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkHoly Handgranades 54.4 GB/s Memory Bandwith! Reply
pol II - Monday, November 14, 2005 - linkNice card Reply


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A VIDEO showing two men hitting staff with foam tubes at a McDonald's restaurant in Burnley has been slammed.
The 90-second clip, which has clocked up tens of thousands of views on social media, shows Ben Hall and Joel Melia attacking two female employees with the foam.
Last night, the teenagers refused to apologise for the incident, despite police confirming they were investigating reports of an assault.
Burnley business leader Brian Hobbs said the prank, which targeted staff as they worked, was 'abhorrent'.
The video, which was posted on Facebook by the men's friend, Lewis Denwood, has gone viral, attracting almost 12,000 Facebook likes, being shared by 8,000 viewers, and prompting 3,000 comments.
One employee, who is visibly upset after being hit in the stomach and on the head, chases the men out of the shop while a male colleague appears to be on the phone to police.
Mr Hobbs, president of Burnley Chamber of Trade, said: "It's ludicrous. I find it absolutely abhorrent that people think this is ok.
"Unfortunately, what seems like a bit of a laugh with alcohol on board isn't nice for those on the receiving end.
"Clearly it's the alcohol that is the problem in this case. Even if it was intended as a bit of fun, it can be extremely intimidating for the staff.
"I absolutely condemn this behaviour. I would question why these drunken idiots even need to be out at 7am."
Burnley MP Gordon Birtwistle said: "It might be fun for them but it certainly isn't for the people on the receiving end.
"You expect people to treat the staff with the respect they deserve. If the staff had reacted, they would have got the sack so why do these lads think this is acceptable?
"They are purely doing their job. Nobody goes to work to be attacked."
Coun Shah Hussain, for the Daneshouse with Stoneyholme ward where the incident happened, said: "I wouldn't tolerate that either if I was a member of staff and it happened to me. I would feel aggrieved and people shouldn't have to put up with it at work.
"Filming this sort of thing and putting it on Facebook seems to be some sort of craze at the moment and it isn't good. It might be harmless fun to those that are doing it but it is not to the victim.
"I hope the police take a harsh approach to it and send a message out."
Mr Hall, an apprentice electrician, said the trio had visited the St James's Street restaurant after a night out drinking in Burnley.
He admitted to being drunk in the video but claimed the member of staff 'over-reacted' when she was hit.
The 18-year-old said: "We had more than a few. On the way up to McDonald's we found some scaffolding safety foam and thought it'd be funny to have a fight with them and it just carried on in McDonald's.
"We thought we'd involve the staff but I don't think they were too impressed."
The video shows Mr Hall and Mr Melia, a 19-year-old bricklayer, wrestle with each other on the restaurant floor and a voice can be heard saying: "These McDonald's staff are mugging you off."
The pair then attempt to go behind the counter but are stopped by two female members of staff. One woman is hit on the head by Mr Melia, and is struck again in the stomach as she tells the men to leave the restaurant.
Once outside, Mr Hall hits the woman again from behind.
Asked if he wished to apologise, Mr Hall said: "Not even a tiny bit. It was harmless fun and nobody got hurt so I don't think I should feel bad."
He added: "She threatened us back so we're equal."
Mr Melia, a part-time footballer with North West Counties Football League Premier Division side Barnoldswick Town, described the episode as 'a piece of fun'.
He said: "I won't apologise. We were just messing about. I think she over-reacted if anything. There was no need for her to get on like she did.
"The police spoke to us outside and just sent us on our way."
Police confirmed they were investigating the incident, which happened at 6.55am last Saturday, but said that no arrests had been made.
A spokeswoman for McDonald's said: "We can confirm that an incident took place and the police were contacted."

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Mount Up With Wings As Eagles
de Charlie Yates, Lt. Col, USAF (Ret.)
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Mount Up With Wings As Eagles photographically chronicles the author's experiences flying the F-15 Eagle during the Cold War. View breath taking photos of all aspects of the Eagle and its air superiority mission.
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I was commissioned a 2nd Lieutenant through the Air Force ROTC program at Texas Tech University and entered Undergraduate Pilot Training at Reese AFB, Texas in 1971. My first assignment was as a Forward Air Controller flying the OV-10 Bronco in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia. I returned to Reese AFB in 1973 as a T-38 instructor and received an F-15 assignment to Holloman AFB, New Mexico in 1978. I was extremely fortunate to be able to fly the Eagle for eleven years; four years at Holloman AFB, four years at Elmendorf AFB, Alaska, and three years at Luke AFB, Arizona. Those assignments encompassed flying with six different squadrons and included over 2200 hours of flying time, nine Red Flags, countless other exercises and deployments, an ocean crossing to Lahr AB, Germany, and many hours studying and refining tactics in air superiority.
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mlperser I had the great opportunity to maintain a F-15 for Charlie while he was at Holloman AFB, NM. I also chose him as the pilot for my incentive flight. As any maintainer would tell you, Charlie was the best pilot to climb in a jet. If he calls a "Red Ball", it was really broke. Very seldom he had Red Balls and all the maintainer made efforts to make sure he had no problems with his jet because we all liked him so much. He was fun to work with but he was a "Cowboy". You were the best Charlie.


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Have you also tried backtrack 4 pre-final?
Hey Guys,
i am runing backtrack on my laptop booted from an usb stick.
my problem, the keyboard doesn't work! Usually it work but since 3-4 days it doesn't. i have a standart PS/2 keyboard an i allready selected it in the backtrack configuration. I run backtrack usually in the kde mod, i tryed the conzip mode but ist does't work ther too.
Think you can help me? Hope so...
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Have you also tried backtrack 4 pre-final?
No, i just tried bt3. But i think there is someting wrong in the configuration cause usually it work and the keyboard ist working perfekt when i'm running windows on that laptop.


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Adobe was called in to be a last minute sponsor of MuraCON. Over (70) ColdFusion and Web Developers attended a 2 day conference at Drexel University campus in Sacramento. Nice venue right by the river and down the street from the California capital building. The MuraCon organizers assured me that they wanted to start small with this event. In fact, they weren't even sure anybody would come! Boy, were they surprised when their conference sold out a month prior to the conference; and, they had a decent size waiting list too.
I was helping out Josh Adams (@jladams97) our Sales Engineer for ColdFusion. Josh was speaking at the event and needed help at the Adobe table. And as it turned out, there were several Adobe User Group Managers and their members there. The community aspect was great, but what is this Mura stuff? They were at MAX, but I'd never heard of them.
WHAT is MURA?
Mura is a CFML based Content Management System (CMS) that was created by Blue River Interactive Group, a full-service interactive agency based in Sacramento, California.
Blue River was founded by 3 guys who played in Sacramento area rock bands. They wanted to find a simpler way to update their band websites. So one thing led to another and they developed a flexible web based content management system. They're young, agile, and they have got some great clients.
Mura is discovering that they are the verge of creating a new community of CFML developers and designers.
Getting A Community Started:
I was asked by one of the founders ("Malcom") this question: " When does a software company know when to support a User Group Community? "
Awesome question! I replied: " Hmm, you've held your first user conference; and, it sold out a month ago….Seems like you already have a community! No time like the present to start engaging them! "
I also added a couple of things:
I hinted further that a great place to look for community folks is at the Community Leadership Summit or CLS-West (in So. San Francisco).
A good book to read is Jono Bacon's (Ubuntu Community Mgr) book: "The Art of Community".
Here's a video below of Jono talking about the rise of communities in corporations/foundations.
The Software Giveaways! + the Swag
We gave away several copies of Flash Builder Premium 4.5 which comes bundled with ColdFusion Builder 2. There were also developer t-shirts and some assorted swag. In talking to a couple of the winners, they had lots of ideas on creating ColdFusion Builder extensions; and some even had an interest in creating Mobile Applications with FlashBuilder 4.5. There was one developer who works for a military organization who wanted to create an Android App and reader device for Java Card ID's to access their internal intranet. Sounded interesting! All in All, there were a lot of happy CF developers.
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I certainly hope so! The guys from Mura could probably do it with additional sponsorship. Adobe will likely be there, but all depends on how things are organized!
objectivebias Tony Garcia:
#MuraCon was amazing. Was a privilege to meet so may passionate developers. Now let's see how much Irene messes up our homeward travel plans
grantshepert Grant Shepert:
@davidpanzarella sure, maybe Thursday? Heard you met my bud @JasPanesar … jeez, there goes the #MuraCon envy again
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East coast next 🙂 RT @stevewithington : #MuraCon went so fast, can't believe it's over! maybe we should take this thing on the road
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#MuraCon went so fast, can't believe it's over! maybe we should take this thing on the road #ColdFusion #MuraCMS #opensource
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#MuraCon was awesome! Left w/ lots of ideas, and a ton of excitement about some project ideas. Winning the raffle prize didnt hurt either 🙂
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Analysts argue Windows 8 does not bring a compelling set of features for business users, drawing Vista comparisons
Windows 8 lands on Friday, and with it the big question of whether the consumer-friendly operating system is as good a fit as previous versions of Windows, which were more stodgy and business-minded from an interface perspective.
I. Businesses May Not Want Windows 8
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in a recent briefing, "Some organizations, when they look at Windows 8 Intel tablets, they are going to like them because they are manageable. When they look at RT they are going to be disappointed, because it's no easier to manage than an iPad."
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Increasingly Microsoft's revenue stream is
driven by licensing software
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And a large portion of OS revenue -- roughly 40 percent -- comes from bulk licensing agreements with free upgrade provisions. For that type of licenses, IT departments' decision to adopt or pass on a particular version of Windows makes no difference, as long as the business is using some version of the OS.
In other words, as murky as Windows 8's business fate may be, the impact of those long-term sales on Microsoft's bottom line is even more unclear. That said, the general air of skepticism from business users is a concern for Microsoft in the long term, and definitely something Microsoft will (or, at least, should) take into acount when crafting Windows 8's successor.
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OTTAWA -- Stephen Harper has long sought to destroy the Liberal party. He's now asking Liberals to help him do it.
The sudden and unexpected surge of the New Democrats over the past two weeks has opened the door to two distinct and disparate outcomes -- a Conservative majority or an NDP-led minority government.
But for the former to occur, Harper needs Liberals to abandon their party and join him, and Saturday he made a direct appeal to centrists of the party with dire warnings of economic calamity if the NDP were given a chance to implement their "radical" platform.
"I think the vast majority of traditional Liberals don't support such a platform," he told a rally in Liberal-held Richmond Hill near Toronto.
"I encourage all voters who feel that way and many voters who would have traditionally supported the Liberal party to support a moderate mainstream platform for the economy."
To do otherwise, he said, could result in an NDP-led government that will raise taxes and destroy jobs.
In the afternoon, Harper took the same fearsome message to another Liberal-held riding, that of former Tory Scott Brison in Kings-Hants, N.S.
Two new polls Saturday suggested the Conservatives are still shy of what would be considered majority territory.
But the new calculus created by the NDP overtaking the Liberals opens the possibility Harper's goal could be achieved without adding to the 38 per cent the party received in 2008.
It also creates the possibility NDP Leader Jack Layton could win enough seats for the Governor General to ask him to form a minority government should Harper fail to win the confidence of the reconfigured Parliament after May 2.
Asked after a boisterous rally in Burnaby, B.C., about the NDP's sudden popularity, Layton said Canadians are disillusioned with both old-line parties.
"I think people in Canada were prepared to give Stephen Harper a chance, and they found things didn't really change in Ottawa," he said.
-- Harper's campaign stops today: Stratford, P.E.I.; London, Ont.; and Abbotsford, B.C.
-- The Canadian Press


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A YOUNG man has been disqualified from driving for 16 months after he drove his car after consuming 'up to ten' pints of lager.
Dale Hoggarth, of Dale Avenue, Kendal, pleaded guilty to driving over the legal limit and failing to stop after a road accident.
The court heard how Hoggarth had parked his car at a friend's house and then went drinking in town. He had drunk about 'eight to ten pints' and at 1.30am on February 23 he decided to walk home.
The 18-year-old passed his car parked on Shap Road and thought he was 'okay to drive'. He got in his VW Polo and headed home but crashed the vehicle into a limestone wall.
He 'panicked' and fled the scene but police officers found him 100 metres down the road.
A breathalyser test found him to have 54 microgrammes of alcohol in his system.
Taylor was fined £150 for being over the limit and ordered to pay £85 in costs and £20 in victim surcharge.


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To use the applet you only need to type a word into the search query at the top of the page and press 'Enter'. A network of nodes or 'synsets' will spring out from the word that you entered. A synset is essentially a single concept that is represented by a number of terms or synonyms. Synonyms are words with different spellings that convey the same idea. For example when you lookup "seem", you see that the word is connected to four synsets each represented by a green circle. Green denotes verbs so all of these synsets represent verbs. Two of these synsets have the lone word "seem"; one has two terms: "appear" and "seem"; and the third has three terms: "look", "appear" and "seem". Each of the four synsets has its own definition. Hovering over a node with the mouse will reveal all of the synonyms for a given synset as well as its definition. Some synsets will also show a few examples of usage. These synsets link to each other and to other synsets according to entries in the WordNet database.
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With regards to "wheat" and "grain", we see a cyan link from "wheat" pointing towards "grain" we can understand this to mean that wheat "is a kind of" grain. Here, "wheat" is a hyponym and "grain" is a hypernym.
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Students, parents and teachers at Rootstown Middle School will see a new anti-bullying program next week as a group of five Kent State University students present Pledge to Prevent: Bullying Stops Here.
The program, created and implemented by the KSU students, encourages bullying awareness in the middle school by teaching students about bystander techniques, educating parents on how to talk with children about bullying and providing the teachers and administrators with information about how to prevent bullying in the school.
Initial research by the KSU students found that Rootstown Middle School sees a similar level of bullying as other middle schools in America. The survey, which included 265 respondents from the school, found that 72.2 percent of the children say they have been bullied. Nationally, it is estimated that 77 percent of students have been bullied.
The students leading the program include senior public relations majors Kirsten Bowers, Wezley Garlick, Mary Kate Garvey, Caitlin Potts and Lyndsey Sager. The campaign is part of the Public Relations Society of Americas Bateman competition, a national competition among students belonging to college chapters of PRSA.
Working on the campaign has been a great experience for me, Caitlin Potts, one of the campaign leaders, said. Its been a lot of work, but researching, creating and now implementing the campaign has taught me a lot.
Among the activities planned for Pledge to Prevent week are an anti-bullying poster design competition, a Jeopardy-style game in the lunchroom and humorous anti-bullying videos.
The students at Rootstown Middle School will also see bystander technique stickers, which they will be given to put on a favorite folder or notebook as a reminder of how to stand up to a bully.
Additionally, posters, including bullying STOPS here stop signs, will be hung throughout the middle school building.
The students say the main push of the campaign is to get students, parents and teachers to sign anti-bullying pledge cards to decrease bullying in the school.
The campaign will culminate during the final week of February, with a parent and community meeting about bullying and school safety. At the meeting, the KSU students will share the details and results of their program with the parents and community.
Beginning next week, a display will be available at the Ravenna Public Library, one of the campaigns partners, with more information about bullying in the school.
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The tragic death of a popular and vibrant Otley grandmother could have been avoided if proper hospital procedures had been followed.
An inquest has taken place into the death of 75-year-old Gwendolen Bingham, who died after a revision knee replacement at Harrogate District Hospital on November 3, 2012.
The four-day inquest at Harrogate Magistrates' Court heard that Mrs Bingham was in good health, lived independently and the operation was straightforward with no complications expected.
However, her condition deteriorated over the weekend of October 20 and 21, 2012, when signs of renal failure were not picked up and she subsequently suffered a heart attack and stroke that led to her death.
Evidence given by consultant pathologist Dr Lowe, supported by the trust clinicians, was that failures in treatment during the weekend of 20th and 21st on the balance of probabilities caused or materially contributed to Mrs Bingham's death.
During the inquest Coroner Mr Geoff Fell, considered the quality of care provided to Mrs Bingham and a number of issues were identified including ineffective and inconsistent handover, delay in communication of abnormal blood results, incomplete and inconsistent documentation and incomplete medical care at the weekend.
Evidence was heard from the nurses who expressed deep concern at the staffing levels and quality of nursing staff at that time exacerbated by reconfiguration of wards, sickness and training.
Mrs Bingham's death led to a review of staffing, procedures and policies and revised practice that has been introduced at Harrogate District Hospital to minimise the likelihood of such events happening again.
Mrs Bingham's daughter, Nicki Harrington, said: "I believe this was an avoidable, tragic event that should not have happened. We should have complete faith and confidence in our hospitals and the medical profession when anyone goes in for anything including elective surgery.
"As a family we believe that we are clearer about what happened to Mum that weekend and hope that no other family has to go through the traumatic experience we have. Mum was such a lively, outgoing person and had the knee operation so that she could continue to lead an independent, active and full life, playing bowls and enjoying theatre trips with her partner, Brian, being with her children and eight grandchildren as often as she could.
"Sadly, her life has been cut short. We are devastated and feel deprived of someone we loved dearly."
Speaking after the inquest, Dr David Scullion, medical director at Harrogate and District NHS Foundation Trust, said: "We would like to express our deepest condolences and sincere apologies to the family of Mrs Bingham for the failings in the care provided to her.
"We accept the findings of the Coroner and acknowledge his conclusion. We have thoroughly investigated Mrs Bingham's death and this has led to a detailed action plan being implemented. We have already introduced a number of improvements. These include:
- more robust handover arrangements between clinicians;
- changes to the automatic alert system for the communication of abnormal blood test results;
- adopting the new National Early Warning Score system, a more sensitive system than we had before to identify and alert to a deterioration in a patient's condition; and
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Did you know?
South Africa has the largest Indian population in the world outside of India.
South African Indian culture took root in 1860 when the first immigrants arrived on board the Truro as indentured labourers to work on sugar cane farms in present day KwaZulu-Natal. In 2010, more than 1,2 million people of Indian descent in South Africa celebrated the 150th birthday of their community's existence in this country.
Indian culture in South Africa faced struggles in the face of discrimination until 1994. It is these struggles that have seen Indians take a leading role in the Freedom Struggle. It all started with the arrival of Mohandas Gandhi in 1893.
Gandhi was born in India and arrived in the British colony of Natal to take up a position as an advisor to a Durban law firm. He had only intended to spend a year in South Africa, but the racial slights he experienced were so formative that he stayed on for two decades.
In 1894 he founded the Natal Indian Congress, later at the forefront of the Freedom Struggle in South Africa. At first it utilised passive resistance, but when this proved inadequate he reformulated it into satyagraha, Sanskrit for 'truth and firmness'.
But the influence of the Indian community is not limited to Ghandi, with many members of this population group being represented in our government and ruling party in positions of influence and importance.
In addition, cultural ideas and influences are strongly felt here. India is home to 15 official languages and over 1500 dialects. Traditions have been handed down from generation to generation and preserved in the largest Indian diaspora outside of India itself.
Predominantly Indian suburbs in and around Durban include Chatsworth, Phoenix, Verulam and Tongaat.
The national dress of India, the saree (six yards of unstitched cloth draped to impart grace and elegance) may be seen on many South African streets, especially in KwaZulu-Natal. Indian cuisine is hugely popular, with south Indian and north Indian restaurants popular all over the country, along with delicacies such as samoosas, chilli bites and bunny chow (hollowed out half loaf filled with curry).
And the fever for cricket that grips India is as much in evidence in KwaZulu-Natal, where the first Indians were introduced.
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Saint Leo, Fla. (May 4, 2008) – The Saint Leo University softball team (35-13) has received a berth in the 2008 NCAA Division II South Region Softball Championships, it was announced Sunday by the NCAA. Saint Leo was selected for the third time in the last four years and the fifth time in the last nine seasons overall.
The Lions will be the number three seed in the South Region and will face number six seed Valdosta State in the first round on Wednesday. Game time is set for 11:00 a.m. Barry University will host the South Region Tournament as the top seed in the region with games played Wednesday through Sunday in Miami Shores, Fla.
The South Region Tournament will be a double-elimination tourney with the champion moving on to the NCAA Division II Softball Finals in Houston, Texas on May 14-17.
The Lions finished second in the Sunshine State Conference in 2008, posting a 14-7 record in the SSC. Saint Leo closed the regular season on a five-game winning streak and won seven of its last eight games overall.
SLU and Valdosta State met four times in 2008 with the Lions sweeping both doubleheaders at home and in Valdosta. In the most recent doubleheader, Saint Leo won game one 5-2 and wrapped up a sweep with a 9-8 win in nine innings in the nightcap.


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Ryan O'Neal Suggests His Daughter Tatum Caused Farrah Fawcett's Cancer
"What bothers me the most is that there was turmoil during my love affair with Farrah. A lot of it caused by my family, by my kids. All of them. Particularly Tatum. I just think that if [Fawcett] had never met us, would she still be alive today? Because nobody knows what causes cancer, do they really?"
— Hollywood dads keep it classy, don't they? Ryan O'Neal gives Michael Lohan/Richard Heene/Joe Jackson a run for their money with this WTF comment about his daughter Tatum, on Monday's episode of "Piers Morgan Tonight." I don't disagree that drug addicts — which Tatum O'Neal was — are soul-sucking sources of stress. But suggesting she caused his beloved's cancer? That's beyond-the-pale harsh. [New York Daily News]


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A WOMAN was sexually assaulted on her way to work in Redditch.
It happened at about 6.50am on Saturday, February 9, in Winyates Way.
The woman, who is in her 30s, had just got off the bus and was walking in the direction of Oxleasow Road when she noticed a man standing by some bushes.
As she approached him she noticed he was exposing himself and as she tried to walk past he put his arm around her back and then sexually assaulted her. He ran away towards Church Hill.
The man is described as white, about 30 years old, 5ft 6ins tall, muscular, clean shaven and has a large nose. He was wearing a black hooded jumper, black trousers and was said to be heavily intoxicated.
Investigating officer PC Emily Silvester said: "It all happened very fast and the woman was left shocked and upset by this incident.
"She doesn't remember anyone else walking nearby but there would have been traffic about including buses so we are hoping someone may have seen the man in the area."
Anyone with information should contact PC Silvester on the non-emergency number 101, quoting incident reference 61-N-090213, or call the independent charity Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.


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Top three filing errors
Feb. 17, 2014 – TaxTalk Blog
Have you ever thought that numbers could be fun? For instance, here's a riddle: what day is like a command? Why, that would be – wait for it – March fourth!
Speaking of having fun with numbers, we used to have a David Letterman-style Top 10 Filing Errors list that didn't change much over the years. But, taxpayers have found smarter ways to file in recent years, and we've been able to reduce our top-ten list to a list of three.
The main reason for our list reduction is electronic filing. Last year, a little more than 78 percent of Indiana filers used some type of electronic filing. Of those returns filed, 98 percent were accurate – they were error free!
But we still have paper filers, and up to 20 percent of those tax returns are inaccurate or have mistakes – meaning we still get to hang on to a top-three list for a little while longer.
So, without further adieu (drum roll, please), the top three filing errors are:
3. Math errors. Even with a calculator, it's easy to miss a step, to add where we should have subtracted, or to transpose some numbers when writing them down.
2. Claiming more deductions and credits than one is entitled to. For example, $3,000 is the most you can claim as a renter's deduction; anyone claiming more than that has made an error.
And, the number one filing error is:
1. Forgotten attachments! If you forget that W-2, or a Schedule 2 to support a renter's deduction or a homeowner's property tax deduction claim, we'll have to send a letter requesting that information. So much for a quick refund!
So how does electronic filing reduce errors? Well, here's another "top three" list:
3. Electronic filing pretty much eliminates math errors,
2. It ensures your deductions and credits are limited to the allowable amounts, and
1. It will make sure all necessary information is "attached" electronically.
If you haven't gotten onto the electronic filing bandwagon yet, and breathing easier when you file that annual return, then here's how to get started.
- You may be eligible to file your federal and state taxes online for free. Check out INfreefile for more information.
- You may choose to use some kind of online tax preparation software and do it yourself.
- You may choose to use a paid preparer.
Reducing errors benefits all of us – tax returns filed correctly the first time cost less to process, and refunds get issued quicker. So, we hope in the next few years the top 3 error list goes away, and we'll have to find another way to have fun with numbers.
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Meet Alecia Shepherd
Minnesota Woman Finds Pain Relief with Small Doses of Bejeweled Blitz
For Alecia Shepherd, 39, complications are a fact of life. When she suffered from a femoral blood clot four years ago, she had no idea that years of recovery and pain would follow - or that continuing complications, like fibromyalgia and heart disease, would become everyday ordeals. Games like PopCap's Bejeweled Blitz have not only helped her to ride out her pain, but have also helped Alecia keep in touch with friends whose support she's found invaluable.
She met one such friend, Ken, five years ago in an internet chat room. Since he lives halfway across the continent - he's in California, she's in Minnesota - he keeps in touch via telephone and Bejeweled Blitz. "Ken has been my great friend through a lot," Alecia says. "We have fun competing between us for the top score on Blitz. I'm finally starting to beat him sometimes, but I'm not very fast and don't have a lot of stamina to keep playing." Still, she doesn't see Blitz as a competition - more a challenge. "Mostly, I strive to improve myself. You can really amaze yourself with what you can accomplish in just one minute of play!"
The game helps her gear up, too. "Blitz and other PopCap games help me 'pull myself together' mentally," she notes. "They help me during the really, really bad days; if I can get focused on Blitz I can sometimes overlook the pain." Though she used to be an artist, web designer, writer, and singer with two original CDs available through Amazon, and was also able to volunteer at church and fundraising events, her worsening disabilities have made it hard to keep up with her former life. PopCap games have let her hold on to some of the things she likes best - like solving puzzles and riddles - while providing a relaxing distraction from her disabilities.
Despite Blitz being only a recent addition to her PopCap collection, Alecia was immediately hooked when she saw a friend of hers playing it. She sees the game as being a "one-minute Bejeweled rush for fun," and laughingly describes it as "screen shattering speed match mastery." We couldn't have said it better ourselves!
Beyond its eye-catching animations - Alecia's artistic streak includes a strong interest in video editing and graphics design - Bejeweled Blitz's fast play drew her in. "It's easy to pick up and put away anytime, anywhere." As she tires easily, the fall-in, break-off game play is essential. Still, her limited time in front of the screen hasn't dulled her strategy any: "The best way to play any reaction game," she counsels, "is to get to where you can assess the entire playing field at a glance and move decisively, like in ping pong. You struggle at first, but then you start to flow, think less, and respond fluidly. The same works on Blitz." And it's working well, with Alecia's top score being around 266,000!
As a woman with a blood clotting disorder that affects one in eight million and results in daily pain, Alecia has to pursue her hobbies "in tiny bits at a time." Still, as a speed-match master, she's up to the challenge. "I have to do things very slowly these days," she says - then, with a smile, adds, "but I still have my talents!"