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Anybody who has served on the board of a community club or sports organization can tell you politics at this level can be a full-contact affair where hard feelings are easy to come by.
Case in point: Winnipeg South End United (WSEU), one of the biggest district soccer associations in the city, is locked in a dispute with the 14 community clubs within its catchment area. The dispute comes to a head tonight when all sides gather at St. John's Ravenscourt School in Wildwood for a long-overdue annual general meeting.
No one is sure what will happen, although some believe the clubs will vote out the existing board and replace it with new volunteers.
The truth of this dispute is elusive; both sides believe very strongly they are not only right, but also that they are being treated unfairly
How did things get this bad?
The dispute between community clubs and WSEU has been going on for some years now although like any troubled relationship, the various accounts of who did what to whom and when conflict with each other.
Here are some indisputable facts: most of the 14 community clubs within WSEU's catchment area are concerned the organization has not held an annual general meeting since 2008. The clubs each have a seat on the WSEU board, and serve as its shareholders.
These concerns came to a head last month when the clubs wrote a letter demanding an AGM be held on July 18. The WSEU executive refused, claiming there was not enough advance notice. When the clubs forged ahead with a meeting anyway, the WSEU executive obtained a legal opinion that said any decisions made at that meeting would be unconstitutional.
WSEU board members, who spoke on condition their names not be used, claim the failures here are errors of omission, not commission.
The majority of the current board got involved in late 2009 in an effort to save WSEU, which had a deficit of more than $100,000. An AGM was called for December 2010, but not enough of the club presidents showed up to make quorum. No further attempts were made to schedule an AGM until this spring. By that time, some of the club presidents had decided to declare all-out war on the WSEU board.
The truth of this dispute is elusive. Both sides believe very strongly they are not only right, but also that they are being treated unfairly. However, the story does serve as an excellent cautionary tale for anyone involved in community-level politics, while also revealing the hard realities about how youth sports is administered in Winnipeg.
Some history will help at this point. Community clubs used to run the youth sports show. No matter what the sport, you registered at your local club and played on teams that carried the club colours. Over the years, the responsibility for overseeing the sports has fallen to sport-specific associations. Community clubs retain control over these associations by having voting positions on the boards.
There are benefits to this system. Sports groups tend to be more cost-effective, and central registration eliminates the need for clubs to transfer money back and forth to each other. That does not mean there are no problems.
The checks and balances provided by the club representatives only work if they actually show up, and that doesn't always happen. In some areas, and with some sports, club representation is robust. In other instances, the clubs have stepped back and left the business of youth sport to the area groups.
This is a maddening trend for the volunteers that do all the heavy lifting to get youth soccer, lacrosse, hockey and baseball teams organized. It can also, in some instances, trigger contempt that can lead to a lack of accountability.
The aggrieved club presidents who are leading the charge to replace the current executive should, before taking any rash actions, consider that they failed to show up in numbers to reach quorum the last time WSEU tried to hold an AGM. Although that does not absolve the organization for going so long without a meeting, it is an important mitigating factor.
Similarly, WSEU needs to take stock of decisions to forgo AGMs, and its failure to communicate with soccer-loving families across south Winnipeg.
WSEU does not, for example, have any information on its website regarding board meetings, minutes, agendas or audited financial statements. Although it does regularly send information to convenors, it does not communicate this important information directly to soccer families. Failure to communicate more directly, and more thoroughly, has left WSEU vulnerable to allegations it is hiding something. That is not a place any volunteer wants to be.
The future of soccer in the south end of the city hangs in the balance at tonight's WSEU meeting. A solution will only be possible if both factions agree to focus on the future of the beautiful game, and not on failures of the past.


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The Best Server CPUs part 2: the Intel "Nehalem" Xeon X5570by Johan De Gelas on 3/30/2009 3:00 PM EST
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rkchary - Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - linkWe've a customer who is interested in upgrading to Nehalem. He's running on Windows with Oracle database for SAP Enterprise Portals.
Could you kindly let us know your recommendations please?
The approximate concurrent users would be around 3000 Portal users.
Keenly looking forward for your response and if you could state any instances of Nehalem installed in SAP environment for production usage, that would be a great deal of help.
Chary Reply
Adun - Thursday, April 09, 2009 - linkHello,
I understand the PHP not-enough-threads explanation as to why Dual X5570 doesn't scale up.
But, can anyone please explain why when you add another AMD Opteron 2384 the increase is from 42.9 to 63.9, while when you add another Xeon X5570 there isn't such an increase?
Thank you for the article,
Adun. Reply
stimudent - Thursday, April 02, 2009 - linkWas it really too much effort to clean off the processor before posting a picture of it? Or were they trying to show that it was used, tested?
LizVD - Friday, April 03, 2009 - linkWould you perhaps like us to draw a smiley face on it as well? ;-) Reply
GazzaF - Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - linkWell done on an excellent review using as many real-world tests as possible. The VMWare test is a real eye opener and shows how the 55xx can match double the number of CPUs from the last generation of Xeons *AND* crucially save $$$$ on licensing from Windows and MS SQL and other per-socket licensed software, plus the power saving which is again a financial saving if you hire rack space in a datacentre.
I eagerly await your own in-house VM tests. Please consider also testing using Windows 2008 Hyper-V which I think doesn't have the 55xx optimisations that the latest release of VMWare has (and might not have until R2?).
Thanks for the time you put in to running the endless tests. The results make a brilliant business case for anyone wanting to upgrade their servers. You must have had the chips a good week before Intel officially launched them. :-) I do feel sorry for AMD though. I'm sure they have plenty of motivation to come back with a vengeance like they did a few years ago. Reply
JohanAnandtech - Thursday, April 02, 2009 - linkThanks! Good to hear from another professional. I believe the current Hyper Beta R2 already has some form of support for EPT.
Our virtualization testing is well under way. I'll give an update soon on our blog page.
Lifted - Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - linkYou mention octal servers from Sun and HP for VM's, but does anybody really use these systems for VM's? I can't imagine why anybody would, since you are paying a serious premium for 8 sockets vs. 2 x 4 socket servers, or even 4 x 2 socket servers. Then the redundancy options are much lower when running only a few 8 socket servers vs many 2 or 4 socket servers when utilizing v-motion, and the expansion options are obviously far less w/ NIC's and HBA's. From what I've seen, most 8 socket systems are for DB's. Reply
Veteran - Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - linkWhat i mentioned after reading the review is there are very few benches on benchmarks a little bit favored by AMD.
For example, only 1 3DSmax test (so unusefull) at least 2 are needed
Only 1 virtualization benchmark, which is really a shame....
Virtualization is becoming so important and you guys only throw in one test?
Besides that, the review feels a bit biased towards intel, but i will check some other reviews of the xeon 5570 Reply
duploxxx - Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - linkVirtualization benchmark come from the official Vmmark scores.
However there is something real strange going on in the results...
HP HP ProLiant DL370 G6
VMware ESX Build #148783 VMmark v1.1
View Disclosure 2 sockets
8 total cores
16 total threads 03/30/09
Dell Dell PowerEdge R710
VMware ESX Build #150817 VMmark v1.1
View Disclosure 2 sockets
8 total cores
16 total threads 03/30/09
Inspur Inspur NF5280
VMware ESX Build #148592 VMmark v1.1
View Disclosure 2 sockets
8 total cores
16 total threads 03/30/09
Intel Intel Supermicro 6026-NTR+
VMware ESX v3.5.0 Update 4 VMmark v1.1
14.22@10 tiles
View Disclosure 2 sockets
8 total cores
16 total threads 03/30/09
So lets see all the prebuilds of esx3.5 update 4 get a real high score of 16 tiles almost as much as a 4s shanghai while Vmware performance team themselves stated that we should never see the HT core as a real cpu in Vmware (even with the new code for HT) while yet the benchmark shows a high performance increase, no not like anandtech is stating that this is due to the more available memory and its bandwith, those Vmmarks are not memory starving. Now look at the official Intel benchmark with ESX update 4, it provides 10 tiles and a healthy increase, that from a technical point of view seems much more realistic. All other marketing stuff like switching time etc, all nice, but then again is within the same line of current shanghai. Reply
JohanAnandtech - Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - linkWhat kind of tests are you looking for? The techreport guys have a lot of HPC tests, we are focusing on the business apps.
"very few benches on benchmarks a little bit favored by AMD."
That is a really weird statement. First of all, what is a test favored by AMD?
Secondly, this new kind of testing with OLTP/OLAP testing was introduced in the Shanghai review. And it really showed IMHO that there was a completely wrong perception about harpertown vs Shanghai. Because Shanghai won in the tests that mattered the most to the market. While many tests (inclusive those of Intels) were emphasizing purely CPU intensive stuff like Blackscholes, rendering and HPC tests. But that is a very small percentage of the market, and that created the impression that Intel was on average faster, but that was absolutely not the case.
"Only 1 virtualization benchmark, which is really a shame..."
Repeat that again in a few weeks :-). We have just succesfully concluded our testing on Nehalem.
Personally I am a bit shocked about the "not enough tests" :-). Because any professional knows how hard these OLTP/OLAP tests are to set up and how much time they take. But they might not appeal to the enthousiast, I am not sure.
Veteran - Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - linkI didn't mean to offend you, because i can imagine how much time it takes to test hardware properly. And i personally think that OLTP/OLAP testing is very innovative and needed. Because otherwise people would have no idea what to buy for servers. You cannot let you server purchase be influenced with meaningless (for servers) simple benchmarks like 3D 2006/Vantage/FPS test etc.
You guys always are doing a great a job at testing any piece of hardware, but it is just feeling to much biased towards Intel. For example, at the last page of this review you get a link to Intel resource Center (in the same place as the next button). If you have things like that, you are not (trying to be) objective IMO. Reply
JohanAnandtech - Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - linkThank you for clarifying in a very constructive way.
"the last page of this review you get a link to Intel resource Center"
I can't say I am happy with that link as it creates the wrong impression. But the deal is: editors don't involve in ad management, ad sales people don't get involved when it comes to content.
So all I can say is to judge our content, not our ads. And like I said, it didn't stop us from claiming that Shanghai was by far the best server CPU a few months ago. And that conclusion was not on many sites. Reply
Veteran - Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - linkThanks for clarrifying this matter.
But ad sales people should know this creates the wrong impression. A review site (for me at least) is all about objectivity and credibility. When you place a link to Intel's Resource Center at the end of every review, it feels weird. People on forums already call Anandtech, Inteltech. And i don't think this is what you guys want.
I always liked Anandtech since when I was a kid, and I still do. You guys always have one of the most in-depth reviews (especially on the very technical side) and I like that. But you guys are gaining some very negative publicity on the net. Reply
BaronMatrix - Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - linkUnfortunately, I don't buy from or recommend criminals. Reply
carniver - Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - linkAMDZone is the biggest joke on the internet. I just went there to see how the zealots like abinstein are still doing their damage control; just like before he went on rambling how the Penryn is still weak against Shanghai, and the old and tired excuses like how if people all bought AMD they can drop in upgrades etc etc. ZootyGray...he's the biggest joke on AMDZone. None of them had the mental capacity to accept AMD has been DEFEATED, which is disappointing but funny to say the least Reply
duploxxx - Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - linkIt's not just AMDZone, you are just the opposite. Its like in Woodcrest and conroe times, it's not because the high-end cpu is the best of all that the rest of the available cpu's in the line is by default better. It's all about price performance ratio. Like many who were buying the low-end and think they had bought the better system, well wrong bet.
As mentioned before, why not test the mid range that is where the sales will be. Time to test 5520-5530 against 2380-82 after all those have the same price. Reply
carniver - Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - linkYour argument is valid, however, it just so happens that for low end 1S systems the Penryns are doing just fine against the Shanghais, for higher end 2S systems they used to be limited by memory bandwidth and AMD pulls ahead. No more is this the case, Intel now beats AMD in their own territory. Reply
CHADBOGA - Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - linkYou probably also can't afford to buy a computer, so I doubt that Intel will be too concerned with your AMDZone insanity. LOL!!!! Reply
smilingcrow - Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - linkThose grapes you are chewing on sure sound sour to me. Try listening to a few tracks by The Fun Loving Criminals to help take away the bad taste. Reply
cjcoats - Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - linkThere's more to HPC applications than you indicate: environmental modeling apps, particularly, tend to be dominated by memory access patterns rather than by I/O or pure computation. Give me a ring if you'd like some help with that -- I'm local for you, in fact... Reply
gwolfman - Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - linkWhy was this article pulled yesterday after it first posted? Reply
JohanAnandtech - Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - linkBecause the NDA date was noon in the pacific zone and not CET. We were slightly too early... Reply
yasbane - Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - linkHi Johan,
Any chance of some more comprehensive Linux benchmarks? Haven't seen any on IT Anandtech for a while.
JohanAnandtech - Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - linkYes, we are working on that. Our first Oracle testing is finished on the AMD's platform, but still working on the rest.
Mind you, all our articles so far have included Linux benchmarking. All mysql testing for example, Stream, Specjbb and Linpack. Reply
Exar3342 - Monday, March 30, 2009 - linkThanks for the extremely informative and interesting review Johan. I am definitely looking forward to more server reviews; are the 4-way CPUs out later this year? That will be interesting as well. Reply
Exar3342 - Monday, March 30, 2009 - linkForgot to mention that I was suprised HT has such an impact that it did in some of the benches. It made some huge differences in certain applications, and slightly hindered it in others. Overall, I can see why Intel wanted to bring back SMT for the Nehalem architecture. Reply
duploxxx - Monday, March 30, 2009 - linkawesome performance, but would like to see how the intel 5510-20-30 fare against the amd 2378-80-82 after all that is the same price range.
It was the same with woodcrest and conroe launch, everybody saw huge performance lead but then only bought the very slow versions.... then the question is what is still the best value performance/price/power.
Istanbul better come faster for amd, how it looks now with decent 45nm power consumption it will be able to bring some battle to high-end 55xx versions. Reply
eryco - Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - linkVery informative article... I would also be interested in seeing how any of the midrange 5520/30 Xeons compare to the 2382/84 Opterons. Especially now that some vendors are giving discounts on the AMD-based servers, the premium for a server with X5550/60/70s is even bigger. It would be interesting to see how the performance scales for the Nehalem Xeons, and how it compares to Shanghai Opterons in the same price range. We're looking to acquire some new servers and we can afford 2P systems with 2384s, but on the Intel side we can only go as far as E5530s. Unfortunately there's no performance data for Xeons in the midrange anywhere online so we can make a comparison. Reply
haplo602 - Monday, March 30, 2009 - linkI only skimmed the graphs, but how about some consistency ? some of the graphs feature only dual core opterons, some have a mix of dual and quad core ... pricing chart also features only dual core opterons ...
looking just at the graphs, I cannot make any conclusion ... Reply
TA152H - Monday, March 30, 2009 - linkPart of the problem with the 54xx CPUs is not the CPUs themselves, but the FB-DIMMS. Part of the big improvement for the Nehalem in the server world is because Intel sodomized their 54xx platform, for reasons that escape most people, with the FB-DIMMs. But, it's really not mentioned except with regards to power. If the IMC (which is not an AMD innovation by the way, it's been done many times before they did it, even on the x86 by NexGen, a company they later bought) is so important, then surely the FB-DIMMs are. They both are related to the same issue - memory latency.
It's not really important though, since that's what you'd get if you bought the Intel 54xx; it's more of an academic complaint. But, I'd like to see the Nehalem tested with dual channel memory, which is a real issue. The reason being, it has lower latency while only using two channels, and for some benchmarks, certainly not all or even the majority, you might see better performance by using two (or maybe it never happens). If you're running a specific application that runs better using dual channel, it would be good to know.
Overall, though, a very good article. The first thing I mention is a nitpick, the second may not even matter if three channel performance is always better. Reply
snakeoil - Monday, March 30, 2009 - linkoops it seems that hypertreading is not scaling very well too bad for intel Reply
eva2000 - Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - linkBloody awesome results for the new 55xx series. Can't wait to see some of the larger vBulletin forums online benefiting from these monsters :) Reply
ssj4Gogeta - Monday, March 30, 2009 - linkhuh? Reply
ltcommanderdata - Monday, March 30, 2009 - linkI was wondering if you got any feeling whether Hyperthreading scaled better on Nehalem than Netburst? And if so, do you think this is due to improvements made to HT itself in Nehalem, just do to Nehalem 4+1 instruction decoders and more execution units or because software is better optimized for multithreading/hyperthreading now? Maybe I'm thinking mostly desktop, but HT had kind of a hit or miss reputation in Netburst, and it'd be interesting to see if it just came before it's time. Reply
TA152H - Monday, March 30, 2009 - linkWell, for one, the Nehalem is wider than the Pentium 4, so that's a big issue there. On the negative side (with respect to HT increase, but really a positive) you have better scheduling with Nehalem, in particular, memory disambiguation. The weaker the scheduler, the better the performance increase from HT, in general.
I'd say it's both. Clearly, the width of Nehalem would help a lot more than the minor tweaks. Also, you have better memory bandwidth, and in particular, a large L1 cache. I have to believe it was fairly difficult for the Pentium 4 to keep feeding two threads with such a small L1 cache, and then you have the additional L2 latency vis-a-vis the Nehalem.
So, clearly the Nehalem is much better designed for it, and I think it's equally clear software has adjusted to the reality of more computers having multiple processors.
On top of this, these are server applications they are running, not mainstream desktop apps, which might show a different profile with regards to Hyper-threading improvements.
It would have to be a combination. Reply
JohanAnandtech - Monday, March 30, 2009 - linkThe L1-cache and the way that the Pentium 4 decoded was an important (maybe even the most important) factor in the mediocre SMT performance. Whenever the trace cache missed (and it was quite small, something of the equivalent of 16 KB), the Pentium 4 had only one real decoder. This means that you have to feed two threads with one decoder. In other words, whenever you get a miss in the trace cache, HT did more bad than good in the Pentium 4. That is clearly is not the case in Nehalem with excellent decoding capabilities and larger L1.
And I fully agree with your comments, although I don't think mem disambiguation has a huge impact on the "usefullness" of SMT. After all, there are lots of reasons why the ample execution resources are not fully used: branches, L2-cache misses etc. Reply
IntelUser2000 - Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - linkNot only that, Pentium 4 had the Replay feature to try to make up for having such a long pipeline stage architecture. When Replay went wrong, it would use resources that would be hindering the 2nd thread.
Core uarch has no such weaknesses. Reply
SilentSin - Monday, March 30, 2009 - linkWow...that's just ridiculous how much improvement was made, gg Intel. Can't wait to see how the 8-core EX's do, if this launch is any indication that will change the server landscape overnight.
However, one thing I would like to see compared, or slightly modified, is the power consumption figures. Instead of an average amount of power used at idle or load, how about a total consumption figure over the length of a fixed benchmark (ie- how much power was used while running SPECint). I think that would be a good metric to illustrate very plainly how much power is saved from the greater performance with a given load. I saw the chart in the power/performance improvement on the Bottom Line page but it's not quite as digestible as or as easy to compare as a straight kW per benchmark figure would be. Perhaps give it the same time range as the slowest competing part completes the benchmark in. This would give you the ability to make a conclusion like "In the same amount of time the Opteron 8384 used to complete this benchmark, the 5570 used x watts less, and spent x seconds in idle". Since servers are rarely at 100% load at all times it would be nice to see how much faster it is and how much power it is using once it does get something to chew on.
Anyway, as usual that was an extremely well done write up, covered mostly everything I wanted to see.
7Enigma - Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - linkI think that is a very good method for determining total power consumption. Obviously this doesn't show cpu power consumption, but more importantly the overall consumption for a given unit of work.
Nice thinking. Reply
JohanAnandtech - Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - linkI am trying to hard, but I do not see the difference with our power numbers. This is the average power consumption of one CPU during 10 minutes of DVD-store OLTP activity. As readers have the performance numbers, you can perfectly calculate performance/watt or per KWh. Per server would be even better (instead of per CPU) but our servers were too different.
Or am I missing something? Reply
usamaah - Monday, March 30, 2009 - linkIs it me or is page 2 of this article missing some information? The title of that 2nd page is "What Intel and AMD are Offering," but in the body of the text there are only descriptions of Intel's Xeon chips? Perhaps a new title to reflect the body, or add AMD info? Reply
JohanAnandtech - Monday, March 30, 2009 - linkI moved the AMD vs Intel pricing data to the back of the article as the pricing info is more interesting once you have seen the results. But forgot to change the title.. fixed. Thanks. Reply
usamaah - Monday, March 30, 2009 - linkCool, thank you. Next time I'll finish reading the article before I make a comment, sorry ;-) Anyway wonderful article. Reply
Ipatinga - Monday, March 30, 2009 - linkVery nice to see a comparison over some generations of Xeon platform, including the new one (yet to be released).
I would like to see a new article with Core i7 vs Xeon 5500... to check out if my Core i7 @ 3,7GHz is good enough in Maya 2009 (Windows XP 64bit, 12GB DDR3), or if a Xeon 5500 (each at 2,4GHz, for instance) in dual processor configuration will be a much better buy. Reply


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''Not tonight honey, I'm working.''
Abba had a song about it. Working all night, working all day. Bills that need to be paid. Ain't it sad?
Yes, it is, really. When you consider the impact it has on your love life. All work and no play. We work too much. We have to. Living is too expensive. Never mind love.
Yes. We're in budget mode. The government appears poised, sword drawn, ready to slash and skewer this so-called Age of Entitlement. Like Jon Snow in full Game of Thrones glory. Though not in a good way. (What is ''good'' any more, anyway? And can I allude to That Scene in reference to the way the country is being dealt with by the prevailing powers? I wonder.)
Point is, everyone is thinking about money. And taxes. And work. And whether some people are more deserving than others. Whether, for example, some working women are more deserving than other people, who work – women or no.
And all this fuss is because we're all here, calling this great red rock girt by sea our home. We're calling it home, and we're all wanting to make our homes in it. And to afford these homes, we have to work. Though even that might not be good enough.
Apparently, my generation has to give up hope of owning our own home. Not that paying your blood, sweat and tears to the bank, plus interest, is what the proud owner of a pre-fab quarter-acre in the '50s might call ''owning''. Certainly not in a few years when interest rates decide their present phase of steady cool is suddenly out of fashion and stocks decide it's time to drop along with women's hemlines.
Winter is coming. Who will cling to for warmth?
I ask, because this obsession with, and pressure to achieve, a bricks-and-mortar ''home'' is not only emblematic of the all-costs material success we're encouraged to strive for, possibly wrongly so, but because it leaves little room for the home that really matters. The home where one's heart is. The true home. The home that makes it all truly worthwhile.
Those we love. Particularly the one we love. The one we should be making love to. If only we weren't so tired and angry and frustrated by work.
Sometimes, I mull over the idea that we may just be living in a perpetual state of home away from home. We're in the houses we can't afford, or the rentals we can, but wish we didn't have to, dreaming of the home we wish we had. Except we're forgetting that the real stuff of our dreams is sitting across the flat-pack dining room table from us, wishing we were there more often. With them. Present.
I mull, and I worry.
I worry, because if our national and home finances really are as bad as we're being lead to believe, it means we're under more financial pressure than some of us may be able to imagine or remember. Indeed, we're facing this pressure in a time when more people are living alone. This is significant. Are we more lonely?
If that's the case, how will we weather the storm? Will we be stranded in a sea of discontent? Marooned, without anything we care to really care for?
Sometimes I let work get in the way of my relationships. I let work intrude on beautiful friendships that shouldn't be put so far to one side. Sometimes I let work interfere with my lover. It's hard not to, when part of you reasons it's a sacrifice made for the greater good. Of course, I realise, the greater good is being there. Putting them first. Spending your time and energy on them. That is the right price to pay.
But how many of us can afford to love the way we'd love to? How many of us can afford not to work overtime to be at home to make a nice dinner to make sure that our lover knows they are loved? How many of us are in a position to not let work get in the way?
I say small things count. I say it is always possible to make sure your lover feels loved. Whether that's a quick note, or making the bed, or a quickie late at night. Sometimes those small things yield the biggest returns.
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PhysX: What Readers Thinkby Derek Wilson on 5/6/2009 12:00 PM EST
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lyeoh - Thursday, May 14, 2009 - linkI voted "not useful", not because it's "not cross platform".
It's not useful because it is not ubiquitous. And so it's hard to actually add anything to gameplay (game mechanics).
If the CPU offloaded game stuff that actually mattered to PhysX it would cause the game to work very differently on PCs without PhysX. Game producers don't like that. Also makes multiplayer support harder - if PhysX mattered in the Game, then both players would need matching PhysX behaviour.
As it is, game makers will just use PhysX to help simulate eyecandy stuff like dust, flags flapping around etc.
I'd rather use the spare FLOPS to increase the frame-rate.
sanjeev - Thursday, May 14, 2009 - linkCurrent state of gaming titles and thier support looks marginal (I am on gtx260 ), but I hope and expect, if intelligibly implemented - one extra difficulty level added to most of the titles.
Like to see environment deciding your skill ( i mean ,besides extra zombies and their accuracy at diffrente levels).
And I guess physX, helps in making things more natural. But does it help when u have game titles full of cartoons (no logic)?.
I would love to see pressure, gravity, humidity, wind ... take on interactively on the user.
hmm. i have a doubt. does physX alter the sound processing dynamically - say i enter a location with slightly high atomspheric pressure - does the pitch change? i mean, like how we see in movies. or will the developers play a pre-recorded sound at a particular Atm pressure?.
So comming to the questions(PhysX acceleration in buying software)
PhysX HW support + good implemented titles - most likey i'll buy most of the softwares (ok . i'll limit myself to FPS and RTS)
about next question (PhysX in hardware buying decisions)
- i did enjoy PORTAL, Crysis (besides others)- 10/10 for both.
what more could have been added to these title. ( i am not sure if physX was implemented in these title already -(i'm lazy to check now ). But, if it was implemented, i hardly noticed ).
i guess people on non-PhysX hardware too should have equally enjoyed. So when u have good titles on hand - PhysX - hardly matters - maybe a BONUS (when intelligibly implemented ): Add an EXTRA LEVEL to your game when you start comparing with non PhysX hardware.
zagood - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - linkBut that doesn't mean I don't want the effects that are _possible_ with physx in my games. If/when anyone makes a fully supported and useful hardware accelerated physics (or even raytracing) video or add-in card, I'll jump right on it.
They're just not there yet. Reply
mikepers - Monday, May 11, 2009 - linkHow do you ask "How Important is PhysX when buying software/hardware?" and then not have a simple choice like "Not Important; Physx doesn't factor into my buying decisions."??
Since there was no choice like that I picked "Not useful" for both. However, I don't care that it's not cross platform I just don't care about it at all at this point.
I happen to own an 8800gt and a GTX260 core 216. The main way that PhysX has impacted me is that the driver files increased in size and provide no benefit. They should leave PhysX separate. If there's ever a compelling reason to use it I can download and install it myself. Reply
enki - Sunday, May 10, 2009 - linkI'm sure there are people who care about cross platform meaning different OSes. But how about those who don't really care about that (say only run windows) but don't want to be tied to nVidia and want something that works on all cards like physics for DirectX? Reply
eastyy - Thursday, May 07, 2009 - linkwell i have to say i think the physx card was doomed to fail
Being dedicated to such a small thing was a bad idea....i think with it they should have done it so in tandem it boosts perforamce and takes some of the load off the cpu and gpu then it would have done well
if there was a card that dealt soley with textures....or water affects that would be almost as ridicoulous
I mean if it increased frame rates say by a additional 10fps....and it had the physics boost as part of it to...would have been alot better
Ananke - Thursday, May 07, 2009 - linkSince ATI performance and visual quality is equal or better than Nvidia per dollar, the marketing benefit from having Physics declined. Nvidia is slowly loosing this battle, because they were so greedy to not go the open source way. Same happened to Sony, they lost ground to Samsung...
Anyway, if I am to choose between ATI and Nvidia, the leading reason will be future expandability. ATI allows asymmetric CrossFire, and there are more motherboards supporting that than SLI. Physics alone is not good enough reason to lock myself to Nvidia hardware. At the very moment when GPU standard for calculation similar to CUDA and open source happens to ATI hardware, Nvidia sales will just dive....and that is coming with Win 7. Reply
araczynski - Thursday, May 07, 2009 - linki don't see why with all these multicore cpu's sitting there mostly idle during gaming, that these calculations can't be offloaded to the sleeping cores.
heck, even some of the gpu stuff could probably be thrown there. Reply
DON3k - Thursday, May 07, 2009 - linkSee this thread in their official forums, with lots of testing and screenshots to show that Ageia PPU cards do not function with PhysX software if using any of NVidia's last few driver sets. Software and games will work with the old cards if you install the older 809 drivers, including Cryostasis and Sacred 2 and Mirror's Edge. Why would NVidia render the cards useless? To force the purchase of their GPUs, maybe? Others report same findings - In NVidia Forum Hardware, General Discussion, titled ' Ageia PhysX PPU ' - http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=91172">http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=91172 - Zero response from NVidia. I also reported his via their Customer Feedback option on their site. Reply
papapapapapapapababy - Thursday, May 07, 2009 - linkX Not useful; Hardware physics doesn't matter until it's cross platform
X Not useful; PhysX is irrelevant as it is not cross platform
x yes
papapapapapapapababy - Thursday, May 07, 2009 - linkthis site used to be good. now is even shhitier than toms hardware guide. get back on track guys. btw i bought a 4770. good card. And as always the drivers are fk terrible / not there. Also a huge chunk of mosfets, caps, fancy gpu and mem cooling is missing in action. But good job anand selling selling smoke and mirrors. your deceptive 4770 review worked just fine. Reply
micha90210 - Thursday, May 07, 2009 - link... without playing few titles that support PhysX, experiencing the gameplay, and comparing it to non-PhysX titles?! Reply
gamerk2 - Thursday, May 07, 2009 - linkMuch as DirectX and Glide helped standardize a 3d API, PhysX will help standardize a unified Physics API. Reply
faxon - Thursday, May 07, 2009 - linkcurrent card is a 9800GTX. traded a TRUE for it. good trade to boot, it's a good fast card at 1680x1050 still. i could have put more money into an ATI card if i wanted to, but i was hoping to wait for larrabee before putting a lot of money down on new hardware, since i have been waiting for project offset since 2005 and i want to play it when it launches. i choose my hardware based on graphical performance. if you (the GPU architects and manufacturers) want me to buy a card to accelerate physics, you damn well better make it cross platform, or else i wont spend a dime extra just to get a proprietary version.
i used to live next door to one of Nvidia's marketing department managers. i can tell you first hand they are overly agressive in trying to sell their PhysX API and CUDA support. not surprising, their closed mindedness about how they think things should be extends beyond just their own business. we ended up moving out because of them LOL Reply
shin0bi272 - Friday, May 08, 2009 - linkThe problem with your cross platform argument is that it is cross platform already. any game on the unreal 3 engine uses physx. that means UT3, gears of war and warmonger all use it (and several others I dont know off the top of my head). What you are asking for is any game to support hardware acceleration of physics no matter what physics engine they use and that just doesnt happen. The api calls have to be specified exactly so that the interaction actually happens. one variable name change or calling for an answer in float vs integer and the game crashes. Thats why there are 3 ways to get physics in a game. you can 1. put the money and time in and build your own like in crysis and farcry2. 2. buy havok for $250,000 and get their scripted physics where things always blow up the same way and the only thing really random about their interaction is the death physics. and 3. use physx which is given out for free and is hardware accelerated. Yes you have to use their api calls and all of their specifics but thats understandable if you are using their engine.
So basically what you are asking for is everyone to use the same physics engine. Give it time and a clear winner will emerge. Reply
sbuckler - Thursday, May 07, 2009 - linkUnfortunately this poll is heavily biased by whether your graphics card is red or green.
I wonder if physX was an Ati only thing how many people flaming it in every forum would be singing it's praises, and how many singing it's praises would now be the ones saying how useless it is? Reply
shin0bi272 - Friday, May 08, 2009 - linkIf physx was ATI only Id be buying ATi cards exclusively. Hell I bought the p1 card to get physx when it was still only used in 1 or 2 games.
What I would like to see is ATi stop this stupid ass partnership with havok and license the physx from nvidia so that they can both be using the same technology and allow the consumers to benefit in the long run rather than having rival technologies all the time. At least with everything leading up to physx the differences in ati vs nvidia were more performance based or small things like ati's truform rendering. Now we are talking entire game engines not being supported... which will lead everyone who's an ATI fan to miss out on potentially several dozen or even hundreds of games in the future as physx gains popularity.
Though I would like to see more of what havok is cooking up with them as I havent see too many reports on that lately. If they are moving towards true hardware accelerated physics too then it might come down to who does it better. The problem is havok only really has the ragdoll death physics going for it and nvidia's physx can do that too if they wanted to. Reply
Hrel - Thursday, May 07, 2009 - linkI'm more interested in 8 Channel Audio over HDMI that PhysX. Also I doubt hardware physics will be a big thing with game studios till it's cross-platform. I see a lot of promise for it though in fully destructable environments. FULLY destructable, like in Worms World Party, but 3D, like Halo and Crysis and all that. Reply
shin0bi272 - Friday, May 08, 2009 - linkcross platform - see unreal 3 engine
fully destructible - see warmonger (ok not 100% but 75% destructible)
8channel audio over hdmi... so what youd rather have better on board sound cards than more realistic interaction of objects in your games? are you visually impaired to the point of being legally blind or just inept? Reply
san1s - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkphysx can't run with playable framerates even on an overclocked i7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erAaVDKrRkk&fmt...">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erAaVDKrRkk&fmt... Reply
shin0bi272 - Friday, May 08, 2009 - linkFunny... I ran that same demo on high today at 12x10 on an i7 920 NOT overclocked with an 8800gtx and got an average of 33fps with a minimum of 16.9. Hes basically getting boned because hes recording at the same time (probably with his webcam). Maybe he has his video card's 3d rendering set to quality mode, maybe he turned off hardware physics on the nvidia control panel and set the benchmarking program to use hardware since the card does support it its just off... Or maybe he needs to update his drivers I dont know exactly. All I know is if I run at 10x7 on high I get an average fps in the 40's. Reply
Psynaut - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkIf you want only people who own Nvidea cards to vote, you might want to provide a way for people to view the results without having to vote first. Reply
Sureshot324 - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkDetrimental
1. Games are usually GPU limited even with SLI setups, so shifting any job from CPU (where there are cores doing nothing) to GPU is a bad thing.
2. Detrimental to people who don't own PhysX hardware, or just don't want to waste GPU power for physics. Games that support hardware physics usually have better physics effects if you use hardware physics. However, if you run PhysX in software mode, they usually don't come close to maxing out all your CPU cores. This is proof that the developers (or Nvidia) are deliberately crippling the software implementation.
3. Detrimental to the advancement of Physics technology in games. If PhysX becomes the defacto standard, Nvidia will have no incentive to improve it. It will be like when Creative got a monopoly of the Gaming sound market. EAX 6.0 is basically the same thing as EAX 2.0 except it supports more voices.
Hopefully Microsoft puts Physics into the next DirectX. At least then it would be hardware neutral. Reply
rgallant - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - link-first -Last week I put a spare 8800gts 512 in my machine for to go with my gtx 285 to finsh playing Mirrors Edge.
-did not really see anything improved- fast game not much time to look around.
-but what came to mind was the fact that most people mention power of a video card as seen in benches as good or bad and yet install a second\third card that add's no value to the game play , but up's the power by 100 watts plus so why all the power draw issuse for a given card and then they say it surports Phy X
-also why when these sites compare ATI to Nvidia buy ratings they never test a eg.4890 + a 4870 [old card ] for extra value to the product value.If that still works.
-So why I think Nvidia could have used the R&D money better would be to make some old cards give some help to the overall game FPS eg. 8800gts + gtx 285 sli thing , instead of the old card being in a closet.\ or if it's sold \ given away it's still one less card that someone does not buy retail.
-if given the two I would pick a second helper card , not some useless eye candy that might or might not work in any given game. Reply
AznBoi36 - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkI wonder what would happen if a game such as World of Warcraft supported PhysX... Reply
shin0bi272 - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkIve been following the idea of hardware accelerated physx since ageia announced their idea at e3 in 03. Back then there were no games that utilized the thing except a few games here and there. Now anyone whos played ut3 or gears of war or any of several other games has played a game that can benefit from hardware accelerated physics. The coolest part of it is that the acceleration allows unscripted physics with hundreds of objects larger than a paint can at once. For the past decade and a half weve had to put up with thin fences of wood that cant be shot through with a missle launcher or run over with a tank. Hardware accelerated physics can fix things like that and make worlds more destroyable and more realistic. Now that nvidia has purchased ageia and incorporated their software into their cards we have the added bonus of getting physx on the video card itself and eliminating the Achilles's heel of the ageia p1 card... the pci bus. So now with every nvidia card you not only get one of the top performing cards in its class you also get hardware physics for added value.
I know most people dont agree with me and that's fine. The idea has been gaining ground for 5 years. Its not going away now that nvidia has bought them out and been pushing it. Not only can you can do havok physics, or proprietary physics but you can also do hardware accelerated physics (that they give away for free instead of charging 250k like havok does). Reply
fausto412 - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkIf you notice any software physics game that tries to come close to what you can do with PhysX is majorly taxing on a system. Prime example is Crysis, great physics but the guy abuses whatever hardware you throw at it.
I believe GPU physics is here to stay...but also...i've never see what OpenCl looks like. the problem with PhysX is nvidia is doing it to sell hardware with good marketing, if they wanted it to be adopted they would make it openly available and free and there would be no need for OpenCL...but if ATI was going to make it work on their cards they would have to pay Nvidia...so that's why ATI is going OpenCl. Now the funny thing is we consumers have to deal with this nonsense when all we want is pretty graphics with awesome physics...damn the politics. if only nvidia played nice Physics would boom within 6 months...nobody bases their decisions on PhysX when we all know this is a battle between Nvidia and ATI.
Best 3d performance bang for the buck is still king, physx is just a bonus...and that's if games you play use it. UT doesn't benefit from it unless you play the Physx mod...and nobody plays those online! Reply
drwheel - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkI first read about Ageia and PhysX 3 or 4 years ago. When they had a working card out there, I remember reading the reviews, seeing screenshots, and watching the tech videos. I was underwhelmed to say the least. What was most confusing to me at the time was the added performance hit. Wasn't the idea of hw physics acceleration to increase performance?
"But wait!", they said. "Check out these extra cool effects!" I can't speak for anyone else, but the effects weren't anything ground-breaking. Most of what I saw were added particles here and there. Ooh! To top things off, title support was dismal at the time.
Needless to say, I wasn't surprised when they were acquired by Nvidia in 2008. I was excited at the time because I owned an 8800 GTX. Now, I thought, Nvidia will take this potentially great thing and do it right. Accelerate PhysX via the GPU, get it out there, and push developer support.
Well, it's been almost a year and a half and what do they have to show for it? The only game I can recall doing anything cool with PhysX is Unreal Tournament III. And that implementation consisted of a pack of 3 add-on maps that play more like a tech demo than anything else. Really? Is this what I was looking forward too.
I am not endlessly loyal to ATI or Nvidia. It so happens that my 8800 GTX died this past month. I bought an HD 4830 (which I am amazed with for $70, but that's another story) to replace it until the DX11 cards start rolling out later this year.
The bottom line is this: When I do buy a new video card at the end of this year, NOTHING about that decision will be based on PhysX support. It's not even a passing thought. Reply
McRhea - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - link
+1 to the comment above. Reply
GaryJohnson - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkMarginal is the only right answer to the first two questions. If it's not used to do something in software that you use or plan to use, how is it even relevant?
It's basically "it's good if it's useful", but the other choices are either "it's better than good even if it's not useful" or "it's bad because I'm not using it" Reply
Daeros - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkSo, I guess I am the only one with a 4870 and a PCIe Physx card? To me, it's just like EAX on my sound card. I have it, and it is nice when a game supports it, but I don't buy or avoid games because of their support (or lack thereof) for it. Reply
Daeros - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkWhy is there no Edit button? Anyway, the other thing I wanted to say is I have never been a fan of using the GPU for other (in-game) things. If you use it to transcode video (and I do), great. But modern games are taxing enough on my system (firstname.lastname@example.com, 4870 1GB, 4GB DDR2@900, 300GB Velociraptor) that I don't want 10% of my video card working on something else. Maybe it's b/c I game on a large CRT that supports very high (2048x1536) resolutions, but I don't think I'm alone on this. As I said, I value Physx, just not enough to sacrifice noticeable performance for it. Reply
aguilpa1 - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkI would love to have more realism in the physics of in game environments but find apps like Badaboom encoder and Photoshop CS4 acceleration infinitely more useful. Reply
bludragon - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkIs how I wanted to answer the 2nd question... Reply
haplo602 - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkhw accelerated physics is a nice future option, but the current implementation is still not where it should be.
and when the future is heading towards multi-core CPUs, I don't see a reason to use GPUs for physics acceleration.
I can see some reason to use stream processors in large scale physics sims (scientific experiments) or large scale online games that can actualy use it (EVE Online). But tying this to any piece of hardware that has limited support is not a good idea. Reply
McRhea - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkI upgraded to a 4890 after owning an 8800GT. Before the 8800GT I had an X1800XT.
I couldn't care less about PhysX. When I upgrade next year, if I can find an Nvidia card for cheaper than an ATI card, then I'll switch back to Nvidia. I have no loyalty to either company, and will support whoever has the cheaper card, as long as the cards are equivalent. IMO the 4890 is equal to the 275, but I was able to get my 4890 for $185 after rebate and instant cash back. If the 275 had been cheaper, I would have gotten that card.
I think of PhysX as a bonus, kinda like getting a 8GB USB Flash drive when you purchase something else (HD, TV, Case, whatever). It's a nice surprise and bonus, but it wouldn't factor into my decision, ya know? Reply
Repr - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkunless every graphics card will support it i dont care about it. its a nice extra, but nvidia only putting it on there own gpu's makes it nearly totally useless Reply
crimson117 - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkDo any sports games make use of PhysX? Or is sport physics just not complex enough to need a separate card?
I'm thinking the impact of a tackle on a football carrier - their weight, their velocity, their balance could all be put together to create a more realistic tackle.
So far when I think of PhysX, I think of enhanced particle explosions, wavy fabric, and wavy water, and nothing that actually affects gameplay. Reply
Slakey - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkPhysX isn't useful for anything that actually affects game logic because of the time involved in moving data back and forth from the video card.
You could have something similar to Burnout where there's a neat looking tackle simulation after some simpler code determines whether or not there actually was a tackle. Reply
DerekWilson - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkI think that might only be a part of the issue.
Beyond this, developers aren't ready to tie any required feature or offer significantly different game play modes for PhysX because they aren't interested in alienating owners of AMD and Intel hardware or spending an extraordinary amount of time on things that only a subset of their audience will be able to benefit from.
There are things that could be hardware accelerated that are required for gameplay, but that will have to wait until people really want and need that first. Reply
aigomorla - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkMirror Edge is suposed to support physx, but that game blows. Reply
bobsmith1492 - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkWould you please avoid leading questions such as:
"Not useful; Hardware physics doesn't matter until it's cross platform (OpenCL) (231 votes)"
If I wanted to vote "Not useful," that's not necessarily the reason WHY I would vote "Not useful." You're assuming that is the ONLY reason it is not useful. Otherwise, at least include another option. The way the poll is going, you will get the result that "People want cross-platform PhysX" while that's not necessarily what the voters intended. Reply
DerekWilson - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkThanks for the feedback -- I just removed the OpenCL reference to try and help balance it out again.
I do understand your sentiment -- the text following the useful-or-not bit was just supposed to be an example of the type of feeling that would be associated with the category, not the only thing that fits ... with no context at all it can be hard to understand what we intended and everyone would have different ideas of what the category would mean to them. At the same time, you are right that it could make people feel like the categories are overly narrow or non-inclusive.
I'll try to be more careful with this in the future. Thanks again. Reply
just4U - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkwell to be fair .. for many of us one of the main reason's it's not useful is because it's not cross platform. I would think the vast majority out there are take it or leave it types as it's not really a biggie to get excited about right now. Reply
icingdeath88 - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkYou could also give multiple reasons for the same choice, such as:
no - it's not cross platform
no - none of the games i'm interested use it
i put no, but i meant the second one. Reply
ssj4Gogeta - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkand in the hardware question, shouldn't it be "Marginal; PhysX is a bonus if a CARD I like supports it" (card instead of game)? Reply
ssj4Gogeta - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkyou could add an "etc." there. Reply
ThePooBurner - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkI agree with the bad form of voting. I find GPU physics to be a complete waste. The cards are using every last drop of power they have to run the graphics and give me good FPS, the last thing i need or want is resources being sucked away to run physics when i've got 2-3 extra cores in my CPU doing approximately nothing. GPU physics is a waste of time and marketing gimicry. There is more than enough CPU power to go around these days to have the need to run physics on my GPU instead of graphics. I uy a video card to give me graphics, not physics. If i wanted a physics card i would buy a physics add-in card. So would everyone else. I find running anything but the graphics processes on the GPU to be offencive (in terms of gaming. If you are not gaming and Folding or whatever, fine, but turn that crap off when i am gaming so i can get the best performance possible.) Reply
joeysfb - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - linkCompletely agree. Even the best single gpu graphic cards GTX285 can't run Crysis@MaxSetting@4X/8AA@1920X1200 at a comfortable 30fps. Why worry about Physics. Besides Physic effects has very minor impact on gameplay. Reply
SuperGee - Thursday, May 07, 2009 - linkSure the vote forming might be bad, made it hard for me to choose.
But if you want to use your GPU full for rendering you can put a extra GPU for PhysX.
If you don't want that, you can optional go for a faster GPU wich has enough power for both task.
It's basicly a luxory choice. And Dev must support mainstream but optional they can support upt to the extreem game rigs imanigable.
If budged is a problem then disable that much more PhysX option.
That the aim for mainstream, the budged restricted people who don't want to invest in extra hardware. So the get the normal game experience.
But other people apriciate those extra checkboxes or sliders for PhysX. For full PhysX experience with there favo PhysX game.
It's just like if 1900x1200 is to much. You settle for 1024x768.
Or no FSAA instead 4XFSAA.
But if you want 2560x1600x32 with FSAA AF motionblur depth of field bloom abd HDR. Then you can go for triple GTX285. That luxory.
GPU Physics means that game are much more Physics richer.
Because Gameplay Physics doesn't go well with this luxory choice. It would be most of all effectPhysics.
So if you want GPU just for rendering and Physics for CPU. You choose with that, for a low Physics setting.
That freedom of choice. Just like there is SLI and CF and 30" monitors. You can go for that extra hardware PhysX acceleration by GPU or PPU.
PhysX and FPS do have inflence on each other but arent the same.
The GPU is for rendering performance. So you choose your gPU to do that on a decent FPS level. For normal setting that it, if you don't care about PhysX.
If you want more PhysX. PhysX isn't about FPS but Physics. And Physics can be also very computing heavy. Wich mean you need extra GPU power to get that extra Physics and keep decent FPS.
So a 8600GT doesn't render games well trowing a heavy PhysX load gives a slide show.
Compare to a GPU PhysX disabled PhysX AAA game can stress a 9800GTX+ in decent setting.
If you want to run a decent heavy PhysX mode a GTX275 give decent performance and is stressed in balance with rendering and Physics task.
I go for that extra optional Physics wih decent FPS that means I must invest in some extra or better hardware.
That choice. And I would like it very much if dev give you that. instead only service the poor people. Or fps focused people.
Don't judge or review or bench physX with FPS performance.
PhysX is about Physics the core of a review would be a review about how Physic is used in the game. And how much more hardware it needs. Reply
masterbm - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkAs I do have 8800 gs in my old machine it supprt physic but this is not my normal gaming rig. That goes to my machine with amd 4780 and intel 6600e overclocked to 3.4 ghz. So it would be better if was cross platform support. Reply
Anonymous Freak - Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - linkI have a PhysX-capable nVidia card (GeForce 9600GT,) but it was replaced long ago with an ATI card. So I did answer that I own one; I'm just clarifying that it made no difference to me. Reply
SuperGee - Thursday, May 07, 2009 - linkThere are now decent number of Hardware PhysX powered games.
I see the hardware as a high potentional point.
But using it depend if the games deliver.
Have two PPU since May 2006 and a third in 2007.
Played GRaW and GRAW2 in full glory.
But Cell factor demo showed it's potentional.
And Graw2 ageia island show the potentional in the game genre and theme I like. There are more games but wich are not my thing.
I also was very early aware of the implication Physics brings in a Game develeopment project as how it can influence AI_Pathing. Net load and Game art development. Wich hold back decent or heavy accelerated Physx support.
Wel a lot more PhysX is also a bigger game development burden.
It doesn't come for free.
Mirror edge was a subtle touch of hardware PhysX partialy done right but suffer from crossplatform.
Now nV is pushin Dev's with there TWIMTBP devision. More devs and thus game project are actively doeing something with it.
But just like 9 out of 10 games are the average clone. Or in this case the PhysX feels very forched 9 out of 10 and often out of place. There could be a exceptions that shines on PhysX.
The flags high on the ceiling are more distraction or interactable decorations. How ever where the Player or NPC can be run or push trough are right in place.
But I don't like that kind of game.
Where still waiting on a physX killer game.
And it's very reasonable that it may never come.
So I keep my expectation realistic and enjoy some of the good uses of it in games.
As of now PhysX hardware isn't a necicerity except for some not so populair heavy Physics games like Warmonger and Cellfactor wich demand some hardware Physx support.
But no Class AAA title does that.
But up till now a PPU with a ATI do just fine.
But I wouldn't mind a AAA game that optional could use a dedicated midrange or higher G-card and puit it to good in game use. Reply
Lightnix - Thursday, May 07, 2009 - linkI did have an 8800 GTS 320. After having tried the PhysX demos (UT3 map pack, Warmonger (meeh), and a few others that came with the physics packs), I felt thoroughly underwhelmed - the only really cool one was the great Kulu which showed off destructable softbodies. Most of the other ones, tornado effects, debris, cloth tearing, and hail for the most part looked pretty unrealistic and sometimes detracted from the gameplay experience. I can't say that buying my 4870 1GB in February was really affected by the lack of PhysX support, it doesn't seem to be a very killer feature anyway.
I think the vote could've drawn a better comparison if they'd asked if we had tried any PhysX demos using accelerating hardware, as well as if we owned some supported hardware. Reply
Laitainion - Thursday, May 07, 2009 - linkI'm in the similar situation to you, only I had the 640meg version. Recently went up to a 1gig 4870 also. Really don't care at all for nVidia physx. If anything it was better before, as a seperate PCI-card. At least anyone could (in theory) get one and not be tied to a particular graphics vendor. Reply


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I saw a device once called (I think) a mongolian barbeque it was pyramid shapped and sat on the coals and the way the meat was cooked was by grilling it against the sides of the pyramid.
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Hi everyone, I was just wondering where people have got the sources that:
1) The Clock Tower Courtyard used in Prisoner of Azkaban was renovated into the Entrance Courtyard for Goblet of Fire.
2) The Transfiguration Courtyard used in Half-Blood Prince has been renovated into a new enlarged Entrance Courtyard for Deathly Hallows.
I guess the first one could be correct, although we do see both the Entrance Courtyard and Clock Tower Courtyards in Order of the Phoenix. I don't know how anyone could have got the information of the second point, as we only have the one picture and we can't even see either of the courtyards.
If people have just made these up, I think we will have to delete the statements. Thanks, Joeworthy 10:18, June 13, 2010 (UTC)


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... Ham as in pork, that is. You folks remember that pork butt I smoked and pulled the other day? Well, I'm kinda picking up from there. I wanted to make a chili hamburger, so I had to make me up my pulled pork chili with homemade red beans as well. Made use of more enchilada sauce, and thickened the chili with the masa. (See SC, here's an enamel coated CI Dutch oven). And voici:
To keep along with this true burger plan, I fashioned some ground pork into patties and marinated them in light olive oil, balsamic vinegar, worcestershire, and coarse S&P. Then out to the pit. I let these smoke with mesquite on the indirect.
And here we have it, served open-faced on toasted whole wheat buns, with cheddar chunks and onions, and chili cheese fries. Yessir, I made a true pig of myself with a true pigburger.


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The true nature of matter is one of the most important proofs to be set out against materialism. Lenin was terrified when he heard about this and the truth dawned on him. "Don't go into this with creationists, or you will sink out of sight. You will be unable to do anything. They will have you for breakfast," he says. It is the subject that most alarmed Lenin. The truth about matter is what most alarms Marxists. The way matter is perceived in the brain. Because we see a boundless world in a space no bigger than a lentil. We live in that infinite world. That is something Marxism and Leninism can never account for. The soul. Who watches it, in full color? Who hears sound? Who feels sensations of touch? This is one of the most important subjects that hurts Leninism and Marxism and spells their collapse. One is the Big Bang, this is the second and the collapse of Darwinism is the third. They have turned to jelly in the face of these three. It emerged with the Big Bang that time had a beginning, that matter had a beginning. That was really hard for them. That was one blow to them. Second was the truth about matter, the soul. Because they cannot account for the soul. There is someone doing the seeing.
People know about color. There is something called light. That light is perceived. Light forms within the brain. There is no color and light on the outside. That is something that cannot be explained scientifically. Because it is super-metaphysical. It cannot be explained. It is not a matter for laboratories. It is not something that can be investigated. Because one cannot enter the human brain. Hearing sound, for example. We hear sound far more clearly than even the highest quality music system. The image in our brains is far sharper and better quality than even the highest quality television or cinema. This image-perception machine consists of just two grams of flesh. Even the best quality image on television is still blurred. And two-dimensional. They have not yet made it three-dimensional. Even if they do, it will call for thousands of bits of equipment. Thousands of engineers are working on it, but they still have not managed it. And when they do, only the image appears. But who sees that image?
That is a separate question. It is impossible to make the entity that sees the image. It is impossible to make the soul. There is also that which sees the image. Allah has created both the image and the seer. And the image is three-dimensional and so much better quality than even the best television or cinema. It is so high quality and three-dimensional that people cannot tell whether it is real or a fantasy. Who can now say that this image of mine on the television now is a fantasy? "How far away is the television?" you ask. "Two meters away." But we watch the television in our heads. Most people are unaware of that fact. Some people only have a partial understanding of that important fact. While others grasp it in detail. And some pretend not to understand. That affects those who do understand well. It is a most glorious thing. Something very profound. People will begin to understand this secret after around 2012. It refers to the Day of Reckoning. They will see the truth about matter, insha'Allah.2011-10-29 20:58:27


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By the time I reached The Waffle Window, I had been dreaming of biting into a crisp, warm waffle with crunchy bits of pearl sugar for weeks. More than sipping a Stumptown mocha in an artsy hotel lobby, this is what I was most looking forward to doing in Portland. And, despite the build-up, both options I sampled—a savory spicy bacon cheddar jalapeno, and a sweet, seasonal waffle—exceeded my expectations.
The only downside to visiting The Waffle Window is making the (sometimes agonizing) decision about what to order. There are waffles topped with cream cheese pudding and fruit, drizzled with Guittard bittersweet chocolate and peanut butter, and served in sundae or ice cream sandwich form, to name just a few options. Following my instincts to go with whatever is seasonal, I went with a special: the Rose City ($4.50).
Juicy local strawberries are piled on a Liege-style sugar waffle, with rhubarb sauce and two creamy toppings: rose cream and whipped cream. The whipped cream has only a touch of sugar, while the rose cream is more aggressively sweetened. It has the texture of a mousse: light, and studded with air bubbles, but not much of a flowery flavor. I liked the interplay between the crunchy waffles and the soft, creamy toppings, but you might want to scootch the rose cream off the waffle and do a little portion control so the sweetness of it doesn't overpower the tart rhubarb sauce. If I could go back right now (and I would, probably for the next five days in a row), I'd ask for a little extra on the side.
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FEN: Barna and Nollner Notch Top-20 Finishes at North American Cup
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Durham, N.C. — Duke men's epee Dylan Nollner and women's epee Isabella Barna both posted top-20 finishes at the US Fencing North American Cup on Saturday and Sunday, December 8-9, in Milwaukee, Wisc.
Barna, a freshman from Bend, Ore., took 17th place out of 113 entries in Division I women's epee at the national event. Barna, who placed 27th at the World Cup in Slovakia in late November, got off to a dominant start by defeating all six opponents in her first-round pool. She extended her winning streak to eight bouts following a victory in round two and a first-round win in the repechage before falling to eventual third-place finisher Mason Speta, 10-9, in the round of 16.
Nollner, who turned in a third-place finish at the November NAC in Virginia Beach, Va., placed 20th out of 197 competitors in the Division I men's epee field. The Ogden, Utah, native went 5-1 in the opening round and defeated both opponents in round two to advance to the repechage of 32. Nollner advanced to the round of 16 before falling to Alexander Tsinis, 15-12, who went on to place sixth.
The performances will boost the national standings of both Nollner and Barna, who entered the December NAC ranked in the top 20 in their respective divisions. Nollner, following his third-place showing at the Virginia Beach NAC, sat in 18th place before his finish on Saturday. Barna was ranked tied for fifth in the junior women's epee division.


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LEBANON, Ohio (AP) -- The State Highway Patrol says four people were killed in a single-vehicle crash northeast of Cincinnati when the pickup truck they were in ran off the road and rolled over several times.
The patrol's post in Lebanon said the crash occurred just before 5 a.m. Wednesday on a road north of Interstate 71 in Warren County.
All four passengers were ejected from the truck and died at the scene.
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GIGABYTE Z87X-OC Review: Overclocking Oriented Orange at $200by Ian Cutress on 10/11/2013 10:00 AM EST
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coolhardware - Friday, October 11, 2013 - linkInteresting motherboard. The OC emphasis and the included brace look to make it a pretty cool board for those wanting to up their OC efforts. Glad to hear it was reliable too, that is my primary consideration when purchasing a motherboard. :-) Reply
JonesGaron - Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - linkMotherboard seems to be very attractive and interesting looking forward to see the functions of it. http://www.koolchart.com Reply
geniekid - Friday, October 11, 2013 - linkRegarding the audio codec, I feel that anyone who could tell the difference between ALC892 and ALC898 or higher wouldn't be using onboard sound anyway. Reply
ShieTar - Monday, October 14, 2013 - linkYou obviously ignore the fact that there are college students with good hearing but restricted budgets. Of course those won't usually complain about the money save on the cheaper on-board sound either. Reply
AlderaaN - Friday, October 11, 2013 - linkHello Ian and thank you for the review.
Could you please tell us which BIOS version were you using for this review?
I'm currently running under the official one (F6) that's posted on GIGABYTE's Website.
Thanks again! Reply
IanCutress - Friday, October 11, 2013 - linkBIOS F6, as per the images on the BIOS section of the review: http://www.anandtech.com/Gallery/Album/3144#19
I only ever use retail BIOSes downloadable from the website, and never 'BIOSes for review'. I want my results to be the ones you guys see.
The only way I ever take beta BIOSes is usually if there's something that is fundamentally broken, or it's prelaunch and the relevant download pages are not available. Then I always ask for something as near to the public launch BIOS as possible.
These reviews are always snapshots in time, as BIOSes in the future could have various performance tweaks or a shift in policy with regard idle states/MultiCore Turbo.
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AlderaaN - Friday, October 11, 2013 - linkMany thanks for the prompt and informative reply!
Indeed I've seen the image but wasn't sure if that's what has been used for the actual review.
Alright, time for some more OC tweaks here :)
Regards, Reply
Jasker - Friday, October 11, 2013 - linkHeads up. The links for competing motherboards on the last page are mail links. Reply
IanCutress - Friday, October 11, 2013 - linkThanks :) Fixed! Reply
Flunk - Friday, October 11, 2013 - linkThis board is really compelling, I think the mix of OC features and mainstream price really speaks to enthusiasts (like us). It is a little sad that there is little reason to upgrade to an overclocked Haswell desktop from an overclocked Sandy or Ivy Bridge desktop because the Haswell chips just don't overclock as well so you end up with very similar performance after overclocking.
I'm personally not seeing any reason to upgrade from my current i5-2500 @ 4.7Ghz. Hopefully Intel will release something more exciting sometime soon. Maybe whatever is after Broadwell, which doesn't look very interesting either. Reply
IanCutress - Friday, October 11, 2013 - linkWith the last few generations, it's always been about 'have you got a good chip?'. A good OC chip of Ivy (or Sandy) has always been better than a bad chip this gen, and sometimes there isn't the certainty of getting a good chip this time around. That means the only jumps where it makes sense is when a bad chip in the newest gen beats your good chip. Each gen seems to give a 200-500 MHz IPC advantage (at 4GHz) depending on the CPU benchmark test (less in gaming), and you need to decide when that jump takes place if you're on the cutting edge of performance.
But if you had a bad chip/ran at stock, then perhaps every two generations it makes sense to upgrade due to the IPC benefits. There are some pretty awesome low power chips this generation for example. Reply
iTzSnypah - Friday, October 11, 2013 - linkI guarantee you that setting your Uncore to x34/35 will make the chip require less Vcore to be stable at any frequency. Reply
DanNeely - Friday, October 11, 2013 - linkAnother use for the on board USB2 ports would be a thumbdrive to store bitlocker full disk encryption keys since the board doesn't appear to include a TPM keystore. Using an external USB port for that strikes me as mildly dangerous since it would be easy for someone to accidentally borrow the drive for something else. Reply
Nirvanaosc - Friday, October 11, 2013 - linkHi everyone,
I've read a lot of reviews already and most of the time I feel that the given motherboard is not enough or too much for what I need.
What would be the best for a day-to-day PC with a 4670K OCed and single GPU? This motherboard looks impressive but I think it's overkill for that purpose. Reply
just4U - Monday, October 14, 2013 - linkIt's different for everyone.. For me right now it's the G1 Sniper M5. While Anandtech has mentioned it I don't believe they've reviewed one yet.. I like the onboard sound/lan options which are not the generic Realtek stuff and tend to go matx.. but still want a board that's a cut above.. Asus also makes something similar in their Maximus6 Gene. Reply
vailr - Friday, October 11, 2013 - linkDid your board include the updated version Intel C2 chipset? And: did Gigabyte change the board version to 1.1, in order to indicate the presence of the updated C2 chipset? The review's photo shows board version 1.0. Reply
HardwareDufus - Saturday, October 12, 2013 - linkI really appreciate the inclusión of 2 HDMI ports instead of a DVI. I would love to find a Premium mini-ITX board that offered 2 HDMI ports. Reply
samsp99 - Saturday, October 12, 2013 - linkDoes the audio codec really make that much of a difference these days? An old receiver for d2a, or a headphone amp like a fiio e10 solve that deficiency pretty well. Reply
CatheyBarrett48 - Saturday, October 12, 2013 - linkFirst time i trusted an online job add and managed to make 90$ in 5 hours... ℰxit35.com Reply
genzai - Saturday, October 12, 2013 - linkI'm not sure what you mean by "for some reason only two of the chipset USB 3.0 ports are used. There are two USB 3.0 hubs for another eight USB 3.0 ports, and it seems..."
If they used all 6 PCH SATA ports and put the FlexIO into PCIe, then they have 4 USB 3.0 ports to work with. 2 of those are routed directly to a FP header and then the other 2 each go to 4 port hubs to give another FP header and 6 rear ports. Seems perfectly logical and maximizes the available configuration.
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DonnaCabel16 - Monday, October 14, 2013 - linkFirst time i trusted an online job add and managed to make 90$ in 5 hours... ℰxit35.com Reply
searocker - Thursday, October 17, 2013 - linkHi Guys, this mainboard has Stepping C2? thxx Reply
ElphiGoji - Thursday, November 21, 2013 - linkI think this one of the best mother board... Reply


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