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Jenson Button: "Monaco is unlike any other racetrack in Formula One. A qualifying lap around there is an exhilarating experience for a driver: you turn into corners on the limit and you kiss every barrier at the exit. To get pole position, as I did in 2009, is hugely satisfying and you need to be inch-perfect for 78 laps in order to win the race. It's a great challenge.
"The average speed around Monaco is the slowest of the year, but it feels very quick. The track's quite narrow in places and there are some fast sections. The run up the hill from Ste Devote to Casino Square involves some quick changes of direction, as does the Swimming Pool, and the Tunnel is fast, loud and dark.
"Everyone at Vodafone McLaren Mercedes has been working flat-out since the Spanish Grand Prix. We're not yet where we want to be in terms of competitiveness, but I'm confident that we can make another small step forward in Monaco. We'll continue to chip away at the performance of the MP4-28 until it's capable of challenging at the front; there's no other agenda for a winning team like McLaren. The aim for Monaco is to get both cars home in the points, as we did in Barcelona."
Sergio Perez: "Monaco is a great challenge for the drivers. It's the only circuit on the calendar where you have to build up your speed during practice, rather than going flat-out on lap one. You push a little bit harder with every lap, getting a bit closer to the barriers each time.
"But it's not just the track that makes Monaco special; it's the atmosphere as well. The grandstands are closer to the track here than anywhere else on the calendar and that gives us a very close connection to the spectators. The huge grandstand between Tabac and the Swimming Pool can get pretty noisy when it's full, which is great.
"Last year was my first Monaco Grand Prix. I missed out on a World Championship point by one position and I'm looking to change that this year. The MP4-28 is improving, as we introduce upgrades and understand its performance better. It was more driveable in Spain a couple of weeks ago, particularly on light tanks. That will be vital in Monaco because qualifying is very important."
Martin Whitmarsh - Team principal, Vodafone McLaren Mercedes: "Vodafone McLaren Mercedes has a fabulous record in Monte Carlo. We've taken 15 wins - more than any other constructor - through the streets of the Principality and while we're not yet in a position to challenge for victories this year, we'll relish the challenge provided by this race and we hope to challenge for more points with both cars.
"Our aim is to continue improving the performance of the MP4-28 in Monaco. The tight and twisty nature of the circuit makes its requirements fairly exceptional, but every kilometer that we complete with the car provides us with useful data because we have a very busy development programme.
"Overtaking opportunities are limited at Monaco, even with the DRS, so qualifying is going to be very important on Saturday afternoon. Both of our drivers know how to turn a quick lap, and Sergio can take a lot of confidence from his excellent performance during Q2 at the Spanish Grand Prix.
"Monaco is one of the jewels in Formula One's crown. It's an iconic setting and the race has a lot of history. I'm proud of McLaren's peerless record in the Principality and would love nothing than to add to it this year."
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Fractal Design Node 304 mITX Case Review: Paving the Way to the Futureby Dustin Sklavos on 11/23/2012 12:01 AM EST
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- Cases/Cooling/PSUs
- Fractal Design
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martyrant - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkI'm a pretty big fan of Fractal Design cases; this looked quite promising (especially by the specs on the first page) until I got to the point where I read Dustin having issues getting the 560 Ti inside.
I have maybe--MAYBE--used my optical drive a handful of times in the past 5 years. And almost all of those times I could have gotten away with using an alternative method (bootable USB, backed up ISOs, etc.) and am glad to see it omitted completely. Even in large desktop cases I'm starting to wish they would get rid of 5.25" bays completely and just give me 10-12+ internal 3.5" drive bays for massive RAID/fileserver setups (I have had my eye on the Fractal Design XL for a while now). Only reason I see myself using a 5.25" bay is for a hot swappable drive bay...and I don't use those often since I have a NAS that supports that. But I am amassing lots of old 640GB (have 4) and 500GB (have 4) drives and I use 4x128GB samsung 830s in raid0 as my boot...would be nice to RAID 5 the 640's and the 500s in a case though and maybe kill my NAS since my computer is almost always on anyway.
I do admit, optical drives in the work place have more of a use than at home for me. Reply
lmcd - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkI see potential with a single-slot 7750, personally, or a 160mm PSU that naturally doesn't have a lot of connectivity Reply
LadyKate - Sunday, November 25, 2012 - linkLove my job, since I've been bringing in $5600… I sit at home, music playing while I work in front of my new iMac that I got now that I'm making it online(Click on menu Home)
http://goo.gl/ZXnvc Reply
Grok42 - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkI had the same reaction. It sounded like my dream case until I got to the part about it not handling the 560 Ti. I have a New Egg wishlist just begging me to hit the buy button with a Lian-Li QB25 case. I just can't do it because I'm on the fence about the case. The specs I have call for a 660 Ti GPU and a SILVERSTONE ST45SF-G PSU. The PSU used for the review is 7" deep while the one I've picked is less than 4" but I still worry about how much clearance there will be for the modular connectors.
I'm still really excited by this case but it also appears to be difficult to purchase right now. I only saw it available through a few sources for $120+ Reply
londiste - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkand yet, neither of you noticed that he is using a psu that is beyond fractal's spec. with a shorter psu, you'll fit a hell of a graphics card in there just fine.
i know that the hardware dustin uses is same for comparison purposes but think about realistic power usage - 750w psu for an itx box? :) Reply
Dustin Sklavos - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linklondiste is completely correct.
I use standard hardware, but you WILL be able to fit a GTX 560 Ti (albeit probably barely) or even a 680 in this case if you put a smaller PSU in.
The problem then, though, is dealing with the cable spaghetti. Reply
MonkeyPaw - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkSeems like if more of these Mini-ITX cases start showing up and becoming standard, maybe manufacturers will start offering PSUs that work better. Smaller dimensions, shorter cables, etc. That, or these case makers need to start including a modest (realistic) PSU that works for the form factor. Personally, I don't think it needs more than ~400W, as running a space-heater GPU in such a cramped case is just asking for problems anyway. Reply
Guspaz - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkYou really don't need a super power supply in these things. The GeForce 680 has a TDP of 195W, the i7-3770 has a TDP of 77W. Those are the two most power hungry components, and you're only at 272 watts. Shuttle ships their mini ITX cases with a 500W PSU and certifies both of these components (actually up to 95W on the CPU, but I don't think any go that high yet).
A good quality single-rail 500W PSU is probably enough for almost any Intel consumer desktop unless they're getting crazy with multi-GPU or insane numbers of hard drives (like my fileserver which has 15 hotswap bays :P).
Peoples' views of how big of a PSU they need has been skewed by the noname-brand garbage that floods the market. They buy an 600W PSU that fails if you push it beyond 300W and think they need an 800W PSU to replace it, when really they could have gone with a much lower wattage high quality PSU. Reply
yyrkoon - Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - linkMay as well call it 300W peak after adding a HDD, and optical drive. a Tad more with an SSD in addition.
Problem is, any modern PSU to be the most efficient . It needs to be loaded at 50%. So we're again talking 600W for a PSU. If efficiency is not all that important, then you can futz around a bit but going under 500W will only be a problem with any power hungry GPU. e.g. the system stands a better chance of being less than rock solid stable. Now I can not speak for anyone else, but for me rock solid stability is a must in any build. However, i also would not require a beast of a graphics card either.
Lastly, not all PSU;s are created equal. So you're not necessarily guaranteed even 50% of the power total provided on the 12v rail. Assuming a single rail PSU. Most that I would trust being made by seasonic, while being branded by different companies. Antec comes to mind ( earthwatts 500 ) I've owned one now for 4-5 years and am perfectly happy with it. Granted, as stated above, i do not require a massive GPU.. Mostly i opt for mid range.
Now, if these case manufacturers would only isolate the PSU in a way where it draws in air from the outside while exhausting hot air out. Really a no-brainier, and as a hobbyist case moder it really isn't that hard But I digress. I suppose that would require more than 3 brain cells . . . Or really caring about what a system builder wants. Reply
Metaluna - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkSeems to me that what we need is for the industry to standardize on a set of connectors for modular PSUs. That would allow an aftermarket to develop for modular PSU cables of any length you need. Like in this case it looks like the main power connector only needs to be around 8" or so, if that. There are outfits that sell custom modular cables for select PSUs (e.g. Seasonic X-series) but they are ridiculously expensive.
Oh, also regarding SFX supplies, I believe you can buy adapter plates that will allow them to mount on an ATX cutout, so that might help in this instance. Reply
Grok42 - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkI had the same thought about wishing the cable was shorter when looking at the main power connector all looped up in the screen shot. (I know you tried to make it clean Dustin!) I think you are on to something this wouldn't be a problem if they would standardize the modular connectors. Given that only a few manufactures sell different lengths it seems like something that everyone could agree on. Reply
yyrkoon - Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - linkOr, you could learn to solder, cut wires to proper length, and disassemble / reassemble the connector ends yourself. This requires a bit of experience but is not very hard. You could possibly even profit from it by following through with your own aftermarket idea personally. However, I would not count on becoming rich as the enthusiast computer market really is not that large. Reply
Dandyman - Sunday, December 02, 2012 - linkFound this rig on some Finish online store:
Proof of concept :-) Reply
martyrant - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkI admit I wasn't paying attention to the size of the PSU he was using...lol, and yeah, even with a 670 or a 7950 a lower watt 500 psu would be fine for a build this size. So I guess I'll retract my complaint about the PSU... ;)
Still glad to see that pesky 5.25" drive gone tho! Reply
Grok42 - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkI was paying attention but given how everything is orientated with the PSU positioned a bit toward the middle of the case to allow for the power lead to run to the back, I worry that even with the 4" PSU I plan on using instead of the 7" one reviewed, it will still be a very tight fit. It all depends on how the modular connectors protrude from the back of the PSU and what they hit.
May the 5.25" bays never return! Reply
Guspaz - Monday, November 26, 2012 - linkThe absence of a 5.25" bay is kind of a critical flaw... If they had a slot for a slim drive that might be excusable, but as it stands the system has no way to play bluray films, or install software from CD/DVD.
You can get away without an optical drive on a notebook, but not a desktop. Reply
yyrkoon - Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - linkexternal . . .. Reply
krumme - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkOkey, so what 7950 card and ps do i use when using the usual intel plus sing ssd stuff? Reply
Koppit - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkI have one of these cases as my HTPC. Just wantetd to say I used a Corsair CX600W
and with the help of some cableties I got room for my Sapphire 5870 vapor-x. So there is room for larger cards. I really like this case and would not have any problems recommending it, if you just get a small PSU with few cables. Reply
just4U - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkA way around the cable problems (imo) is use modular powers supplies that employ the ribboned cables. Their relatively easy to work with and tuck away. Reply
Tegeril - Saturday, November 24, 2012 - linkI have this case, if you shop around for smaller PSUs (I have an FSP Aurum Gold 400W in mine) you can get larger GPUs in the case. Fractal Design even goes as far as to describe the exact measurements in mm to help you make that determination.
My build has a 7750 in it right now. Reply
lexluthermiester - Sunday, November 25, 2012 - linkCould disagree with you more on the optical drive point, Perhaps YOU can do without, but the vast majority of the rest of us still use ODD[Bluray, DVD] for various, very useful purposes. The lack of ODD bay[even for a notebook sata drive] is a deal breaker with most folks. USB aside, how would you suppose to install windows? Most people have yet to learn of the wonders of a USB drive for such, and most of those who do[myself included] would still prefer to use an ODD, even if it is slower.
ODD's in the work place? Not. More network admin's use network installs than ODD's. No, it's just not on. Your idea's may work for you, but most people still use and like optical discs. And for that rather big group, it's a deal breaker. Reply
lexluthermiester - Sunday, November 25, 2012 - linkCouldn't* disagree...
Note to Anand group; A bloody edit function would not go amiss.... Reply
PsychoPif - Monday, November 26, 2012 - linkI use a USB DVD burner on my PC and I was able to install Windows 8 without a hitch.
Off course some still need a drive bay, but I think Dustin is right when he says that we slowly but surely move away from it. Reply
yyrkoon - Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - linkI'd have to agree with lexluthermiester. Leaving optical media in the dust is not an option. However, it is a problem that is solvable. e.g. external, networked, or out of the case install. Reply
yyrkoon - Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - linkUSB, Firewire, Network install, or you could do the install out of the case. Afterwards putting everything inside.
For everything else, you could use either an external drive, network shared drive, etc. I do realize this is less than ideal, however having a laptop with two HDDs in it ( optical drive bay caddy in my own case ) you have to learn to workaround, or live without. One thing worth mentioning. Most mobile optical drives are garbage, so external is usually a better option anyhow.
Anyhow, external 5.25" drive cases do not cost all that much so cost is not a big deal. The only potential issue is how well the BIOS on your given motherboard handles boot from USB, Now days, I would think this to be a non issue. Reply
JoanSpark - Sunday, December 02, 2012 - linkthat is the 2nd mITX without a 5.25 I know of.. go get you one of the plenty other crippled ones that still have them if you can't move with times.. Reply
lmcd - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkThe testing page needs a slight update; this isn't an A30 and in no way can fit a MicroATX board.
Great review! Contender for my next build since I rely on internal storage and the cloud so much anyway, and with USB 3 and Steam, physical media is pretty unnecessary. Reply
Dustin Sklavos - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkFixed! I has the dumb. Reply
Minion4Hire - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkI agree that an ATX PSU in a mini-ITX chassis is a bit overkill, but you're not going to put a high-wattage, high-performance power supply in a mini-ITX anything. This case feels more like a 500W Silverstone Strider Plus candidate than any kilowatt e-peen unit.
But am I the only one that doesn't care about a compact SOHO chassis? It's admirable that they've managed to fit so many drives into such a small case (and I really do like the design) but I could care less about smaller chassis where any kind of home server is concerned. You can shove such a chassis anywhere you can feed power and ethernet to. Under a staircase, buried in a closet... you can find plenty of locations that would be otherwise undesirable for all sorts of other hardware, so lack-of-space doesn't seem like a big concern. I'm not going to make my HTPC serve double-duty as my file server. A RAID 5 in my living room is not going to make for a truly silent HTPC. Meanwhile, I DO want my HTPC to have an optical drive, if only for convenience.
Just seems like a niche product. Maybe I'm wrong. Reply
Grok42 - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkYou can never be too thin right? While I get your point, especially for a server, it's also hard to see how you would ever regret going with the smaller case assuming it met your requirements at build time. I can certainly see how it's possible that you might wish a larger server didn't take up so much space later on.
I've had many full ATX and mid-tower ATX cases over the years and with the exception of my current mid-tower ATX, I've never come close to filling them. While my current server system wouldn't fit into this case, if I were building it again today I'd use and SSD for the system drive as well as bigger HDs and it would easily fit with no problem.
I couldn't agree more with you on not putting all this stuff in an HTPC. I'm even more extreme and don't want anything even remotely like a computer in my living room. I use a tiny WD-Live to stream all the content from the sever in the closet upstairs. Reply
londiste - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkitx by its definition is still niche.
whether you like it or not, good flex/matx psu-s are bloody expensive and there aren't that many of those. especially if we are talking about anything that might want to be an htpc - i.e. quiet. picopsu in the lower end and atx psus on the other end are a lot better and less expensive options.
i for one do not have a staircase nor a closet that would be sufficiently closed (to muffle the noise) and sufficiently open (for fresh air) at the same time. Reply
yyrkoon - Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - linkKind of sad is it not ?
I've had this nagging feeling for the last couple of years. That in order to get what *I* want, in a mini-ITX system; I would have to either build my own case from scratch. Or mod an existing case. Perhaps, then i could make a little money providing the same to others ( where the case manufactures failed ). But as you said, the market is not really all that large. So yeah. . .
Next, if "we" could only convince the OEM's that quality power supplies do not *need* to be in the 600W to 1KW range . . . I think we would be golden. I certainly could use a good 80 Plus certified 200W ATX power supply myself. Perhaps even less wattage.
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yyrkoon - Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - linkI agree with you, while at the same time disagree.
Mini-ITX has its good points. Power usage by comparison can be a lot lower since many mini-ITX boards do not have a ton of bells and whistles most people do not need on them. For me, we're 100% off-grid ( solar / wind power with a battery bank for power storage). Currently, I use a laptop, but would like to make the move to something more flexible, and better performance potential. Without using a whole lot more power.
As for using an actual mini-ITX case. I could go either way. I have a decent Lian-Li reverse ATX case that I like a lot so I would possibly opt for that. Its standard width at only 15.5" tall. with lots of room for mods or storage with bay converters. However with our power concerns as mentioned above, I could see going with a smaller attractive case. Since less room taken up by the system would be a good thing. While having tons of HDDs internal, up and running whenever the system is -> not a good idea. I'd rather use external drives, saving power by turning them off when not needed.
With all that said. Micro ATX boards can be had with limited peripherals as well. However, it is always nice to have more options. Especially if some or perhaps most of those options better suite your own needs. Reply
Kepe - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkHi and thanks for the review, Dustin!
I stumbled upon this case a week or two ago while looking for an HTPC case with sufficient expandability storage-wise, and was left wondering what it could be used for.
Isn't the 750W, 180mm PSU a bit overkill for an ITX build, though? I know you try to use the same components for every case review, but wouldn't it have been better to use a smaller PSU and then be able to test with the GTX 560Ti, instead of the measly GTS 450 Eco?? Reply
Grok42 - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkI agree it seems this would have been the better trade off if given that something had to give and you couldn't keep the exact same components your used for other reviews.
I'm not sure when Dustin resets his testing components, but perhaps he should consider a smaller lower watt PSU for 2013. I used a PSU calculator and couldn't get it to recommend more than 420 watts without going with multiple video cards. Since the testing doesn't use multiple video cards and SLI setups represent a very small segment and testing smaller cases is happening more maybe it's time for a change. The specs I used to get the 420w recommendation were:
Intel i7 3770k
6x 5400 RPM HDs
1x SSD
1x CD/DVD RW
2x 140mm Fans
I'd say this is a pretty loaded system by most accounts. Reply
martyrant - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkDrop the optical for 2 to 4 ssds...raiding an ssd is very common for builds, especially if you are throwing in a 3770k cpu.
Did you omit the gfx used? 'Cause I would peg that as a 7970 or a GTX 680 for power requirements Reply
Grok42 - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkYour are correct, I did omit the GPU in the list when I typed it up but I did include it in the calculator that recommended 420W PSU. I added more equipment and topped out at less than 460w with the following equipment:
Intel i7 3770k
Nvidia 660 Ti
6x 5400 RPM HDs
4x SSD
1x CD/DVD RW
4x 140mm Fans
1x Fan Controler Reply
frabber - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkMe myself have a i7 2600 running inside a m350 box (Scythe Kozuti cooling). To my knowledge that is the smallest mITX case around.
The problem I have with the bigger mITX cases is that they take up desk space and you cannot place them on the ground either. So I would end up using some sort of furniture to place them on, which kind of defeat the space saving factor.
So I for one would love to see some desktop saving design mITX cases, or other solutions. mITX case stands, racks? Reply
dingetje - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linktoo bad it's only available in black Reply
londiste - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkAny customer can have a car painted any colour that he wants so long as it is black.
- Henry Ford
:) Reply
silveralien81 - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkDon't care much for the case but the Heinlein reference was great. Reply
versesuvius - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkThe problem with computer systems has always been and is, the wires that come out of the them, resulting in the ugliest part of the room. As for the space a case occupies, as long as the case has the same footprint, the height is not a problem with ordinary cases as long as they do not move into full, ultra towers. It is simply foolish to limit the potential of a computer system by restricting the space inside the box that is going to take the same real state on the desktop or under it anyway. Just go with a decently normal case. At least it will cover some of the ugly wires and cables sticking out of the case. Reply
bobbozzo - Thursday, November 29, 2012 - linkThis is designed to be a server; it might go on a shelf with limited vertical space. Reply
dealcorn - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkThe diversity of use cases makes it hard to please readers with a case like this. When the Xeon Atom S12XX motherboards are released a case like this could make an attractive headless server. With 5 WD Reds, a 65 watt power adapter is the correct power supply. What are you supposed to do with the big empty hole where the ATX power supply ain't? Reply
Mumrik - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkSince it clearly is made to be able to serve as a file server or HTPC/media vault, I'd really have liked to see it tested with six 3½" drives, or five and a 2½" SSD.
If I wasn't going to take advantage of the storage options, I'd probably be looking at other cases, and it would be very nice to see if it actually was able to do what it seems to indicate it can - run safely while stacked with storage. Reply
heraldo25 - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkStrange that card-readers are not standard on *any decent* case nowadays, all laptops have them, why not all desktops? Particularly now that it is getting more popular to drop the 3.5" external bay which before could be used to insert a card-reader. Also, notebook-size dvd-drives do not take up much space, should be a slot for that IMO. Reply
Metaluna - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkMy guess is there isn't much market for them. Photo and audio file transfers seem to be moving in the direction of cloud-syncing rather than transferring from physical media (it would be interesting to know what percentage of photos just go direct to Facebook without ever touching a hard drive, for example. I bet it's pretty significant). And in a pinch you can just use your phone/camera/whatever as a reader anyway, which, though usually slow, is probably good enough for most people.
Slim ODDs are kind of a mixed bag, IMHO, and not really worth the effort on a desktop machine. Not a lot of choices for Blu-ray, for example, and drive speed is usually lower than a full-sized drive. Plus the little mini connector is goofy and almost always requires adapters with ugly Molex connectors and so forth. Reply
Grok42 - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkThe only think I've ever seen anyone use a card reader for is for a camera. Most people use their phone to take pictures and in case you haven't noticed, SD slots pretty much don't exist on modern phones. What else uses SD cards? Guess I've been a tech junkie for 20 years and never had the need to use an SD card other in my parents camera. They found it easier to transfer via USB rather than fiddle with using the SD card reader in their laptop. That said, I do find it odd that given how cheap they are that some case hasn't thrown in a built-in one, especially on the more expensive cases. Unlike 3.5" and 5.25" external bays which are deal breakers for me, I wouldn't have any problem buying a case with a card reader built-in even though I would never use it.
Optical is dead as 8-track tapes. Should be easy to Velcro an external slim drive to the top of the case if you really want one always with the computer. Reply
danjw - Friday, November 23, 2012 - link2x 92mm and 1x 120mm, they call that ventilation? Just not going to do it will a modern graphics card, especially a dual GPU one. Reply
Mumrik - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkYou have pretty high expectations for a case the size of two shoe boxes. Reply
Grok42 - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkSince every nicer case and MB support it, I would LOVE to know what actual percentage of hand built gaming rigs have dual graphics. I really have no idea but it has to be very small. It really only makes sense when you want more horsepower than best in class single cards can give you. This means that a dual setup is going to be $600+ in just video cards. I guess it would be different if reasonable priced monitors weren't stuck at 1080p. To justify a dual setup you would need two 2560x1440 monitors which are $700+ each. Not saying this wouldn't be a great setup, just that there can't be that many of them. Reply
Death666Angel - Saturday, November 24, 2012 - link3 x 1080/1200 is also on the verge of being unplayable at max settings for a single GPU card. Multi GPU use should be in the single digits percentage wise. Reply
infoilrator - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkGood review:
Typical comments in the "it is what I want/ no it is not" catagory
Question is do you excuse small cases for origami like configurations to become smaller?
What criteria are absolute, which not?
Personally, after larger cases, except some low budget one, have acquired cable management,
I do not see the need to squeeze so tight.
A half inch wider and an inch deeper would appeal a lot more to me.
I like USB/Audio plugs top front or top front side. I use these things. Neither thumb drives or USB cables seem to be 90 degree connectors,
Card readers are cheap enough to be there but it looks like USB external is the future (where is that..?)
Pretty much the same external DVD, oh well.
Power Supplies are more problemic.
SFF is possible
The Seasonic 360G is 140mm, could not find size listings for 450/550/650 G Series.
Rosewill Capstone is my wish list "go to" power supply
450 is 163 mm and the modular 450M is 170 mm, no so good
My budget "go to" is the Corsair CX430 AT 140 mm Deep, though you can argue this is not a budget case.
Which makes it function vs elegant, and no answer correct.
Elegant outside, less so inside. Functional inside vs functional outside so so.
They are going to sell a lot of these. Reply
lwatcdr - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkBlu-Ray drive or an LCD display. If you are going to use this for a home media center I can see some uses.
Since this is a home server maybe you should have used 3 or more hdds and skipped the SSDs for some testing. Reply
just4U - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkI shudder every time I see Dustin's cabling handywork in assembling these testbeds.. (chuckle) Keep up the case reviews though, love them! Reply
Dustin Sklavos - Saturday, November 24, 2012 - linkAssemble and then tear down three to four cases a month (on top of your other work) and see how much you still care about tidy cabling. ;) Reply
Grok42 - Friday, November 23, 2012 - linkSeems like everyone thinks this case is ideal for a NAS server or HTPC. I get the server angle given that it has pretty good capacity for 3.5 and 2.5 because of the awesome decision to not include external bays. What I am surprised is that I get the idea no one would consider this for a workstation. What does everyone feel knocks it out of consideration? I'm seriously considering this over my current pick of a Lian-Li QB25. Reply
Dustin Sklavos - Saturday, November 24, 2012 - linkI've actually been mulling over exactly that. The only thing that really keeps me from doing it is that there are no Z77 mITX boards with FireWire. Reply
Metaluna - Monday, November 26, 2012 - linkI guess it depends on what your definition of a workstation is, and whether it includes gaming. I have never needed a gaming-level GPU in any work I've done in my professional life, for example, but I occasionally do need lots of memory and CPU power, plus ECC is always nice to have. In other words, I'd be looking for something that could fit a Xeon-class motherboard, but is small enough to tuck away somewhere on my desk (maybe behind the monitor) and still be fairly quiet under load. These large mITX shoebox cases have an awkward form-factor for the desktop, and if you're going to put it on the floor anyway, you probably won't save much space over a micro ATX or even full ATX mini-tower.
I'm really not a fan of this style of case, and by that I mean the "huge shoebox" style, not the lack of ODD bays, which is a very worthy tradeoff. But if you need anything larger than a single-slot video card, they're pretty much the only option these days with a few exceptions.
yyrkoon - Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - linkPersonally, Id like to see something standard ATX width ( doubled ) and at around this height. Or maybe a little taller. Dedicate the second side to nothing but disk storage. Perhaps partitioned, and well ventilated.
This would probably start to encroach on rackmount territory though. Without the rack. Reply
JekyllHyde5 - Saturday, November 24, 2012 - linkI read on the specifications of this PSU @Silverstone's website that the dimensions are "150 mm (W) x 86 mm (H) x 160 mm (D)". So the length is 160mm, and the F-D's specifications of the Node says it allows PSUs until 160mm. What the hell did I not get ? Why did Anantech had difficulties setting up the GTX 560Ti if the length was alright ? Reply
Death666Angel - Saturday, November 24, 2012 - linkBut in the text he specifically says it is 180mm. Weird. Reply
JohnMD1022 - Saturday, November 24, 2012 - linkFirst time I've seen it used in at least 30 years. Reply
Th3rdparty - Saturday, November 24, 2012 - linkI have been building a NAS media server over the last several months and this was the last purchase I needed to complete the build. So far it has been running 24/7 for the last 2 weeks without the slightest hiccup. My build consists of
Node 304
Jetway NF9E-Q77 (6 Sata, USB 3.0, dual Intel NIC, Sandy Bridge)
Core i7 3770t (45w TDP)
16GB Corsair Value Ram
5 2TB Seagate 5900RPM HDD (Raid 5)
90GB Corsair SSD (boot drive, VM and Cache for media before it lands on the raid
Seasonic X460 Fanless PS (modular)
Antec Kuhler 620 liquid cooler (replaced the 140mm exhaust fan w/ 120mm Noctua NF-P12)
Ubuntu Server w/ XFCE (I'm still a linux noob and need a GUI every once in a while)
The only thing I really wish I changed was put it the WD 3 TB Red NAS drives and the new Platinum version of the Seasonic PS but they were not available when I made those purchases
I also have to run the fan controller on high because the Antec Kuhler doesn't seem to get enough voltage to run at low speeds. Even so it is not audible unless there is dead silence in the room
I can tell you that this was the most fun build I have ever done. I haven't completely finished the software side yet (still need to setup SSH, VNC, Timemachine, and secure it better) but this thing is a beast and handles anything I throw at it media wise. If I ever get around to taking some temperature readings and total power draw I will update but my initial experience is that it is very efficient and doesn't run even slightly warm. The cabling was not to bad but there is definitely an art to putting this case together so you don't get spaghetti and it keeps the air moving. Reply
Calista - Saturday, November 24, 2012 - linkAn SSD is more or less only being sold in 2.5" and smaller formats (forget about PCI-E for a moment), a 1 TB 2.5" HDD is roughly a hundred dollar. More and more (music, movies, games?) are migrating to the cloud. Maybe it's time to ditch the 3.5" format as well? Reply
Grok42 - Saturday, November 24, 2012 - linkInteresting thought. It would certainly make case design better given that it is apparently impossible for them to figure out a modular mounting system. The main drawback if doing this would be for those wanting bulk storage. It would take 3 drives, 3 cables, 3 SATA ports and 2x the money to replace a single 3tb drive. So it would take a LOT of drives to build some rigs. Maybe if they started building double height versions that were 2-3TB. I still like the idea of standardizing on the 2.5 size. Reply
Calista - Saturday, November 24, 2012 - linkSeriously? I can't find a single valid reason why the connectors should be located on the side as compared to the front. Besides aesthetics. The way my desk is arranged I wouldn't even be able to use the connectors on a case like this without moving it 5 inches from the wall. Giving me a wonderful kindergarten - for dust mites. Reply
sna2 - Saturday, November 24, 2012 - linkhi,
Can you please test this guy with some max component?
Z77 itx Mother board
i7 3770k
nvidia GTX 680
and a fast SSD. and 16G Ram
this case is designed for top end machine in a small case.
seriously Anad , ...
you are testing this case the wrong way it is NOT MEANT to be an HTPC
this is a LAN PARTY GAMING BOX ! Reply
sna2 - Saturday, November 24, 2012 - linkhey Anand , there is allways SFX powersupply over there with an Adapter .. so the standard PS2 power is FINE. they DONT NEED to Change into SFX. they HAVE SFX
here is an 450 watt SFX with Adapter for PS2 from silver stine , and IT HAS SHORT CABLES and modular and GOLD as well
this one
please test this with MAX system
i7 3770k , 680 nvidia GPU !!! Reply
cyberguyz - Monday, November 26, 2012 - link... is a SATA backplane and drive trays.
To be a real NAS box, these are a must so you can hot-replace drives in a raid 5-6 array.
If you don't have front-accessible drives for hot swap you need to power the system down, crack into it, swap drives (with a screwdriver, power up and rebuild the array. A real NAS can change a dead drive without even powering down, much less opening the chassis.
Nice case for an HTPC, but for a NAS it is lacking. I'll keep looking. Reply
sna2 - Monday, November 26, 2012 - linkNAS cases are everywhere .
what are you looking for exactly? Reply
Randum - Monday, November 26, 2012 - linkI just purchased a Fractal case this year and was pleasantly surprised by the build quality and options for additional cooling/etc. I will not hesitate to buy their brand again - nice to see this compact design! Reply
Mithan - Sunday, December 02, 2012 - linkThis is exactly what I was looking for:
Small mITX case that would fit a bunch of 3.5" hard drives that I could Raid5 as a home file server.
Sold. Reply
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I bought two. Cheap, good quality, you can
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corax - Wednesday, March 27, 2013 - linkI purchased this case 5 months ago and I am still very happy with it.
it runs cool and quiet even after i overclocked the cpu. i would recommend it to anyone looking for a dicrete powerhouse pc that can be hooked onto the tv or simply at your desk .
I was able to fit in my choice of hardware without problems although assembling the pc was more of a challenge than my previous builds because of the used hardware and the limited space at hand.
i have a scythe yasya cooling the cpu , this beast of a tower cooler is 160mm high and fits inside with just 5mm to spare., enabling the overclock potential of my ivy bridge i5.
the motherboard is the asus p8z77-i deluxe. this board has the cpu socket placed more centered enabling a wide range of tower coolers and as a bonus my old cooler could be recycled, saving me some cash to double the ram to 16gb.
a 160mm modular PSU from seasonic is powering the rig. no problems here and this psu does not hinder a full size gtx660.
i used 2 of the 3 drive bay brackets to house an ssd and 2 3.5" hdd's. i left the middle one out for a better airflow and bent the bracket that would normally hinder the graphics card just a llitle bit outwards.(just a few mm so there is no tension on the gpu in the slot).
the biggest challenge was fitting in the cables. a handfull of zipties do miracles and I was able to use the space around the psu and gpu to bundle the cables and prevent them from blocking the airflow.
the result is a whisperquiet shoebox sized gaming rig without having to compromise on anything.
the grate next to the gpu sucks in fresh air and my gpu never ever exceeds 60 degees celcius under load preventing the fans from producing a lot of noise Reply
Hrel - Tuesday, October 08, 2013 - linkYou should stop saying they should switch to an SFX power supply. Every SFX power supply I've seen comes with a bracket to adapt it to the ATX standard. It's always better to have choices, the way it is now I can choose between ATX and SFX PSU's. If they designed the case to only support SFX then I wouldn't be able to buy the case at all; since I don't want to use that type of PSU.
If YOU want to use a SFX PSU you can in this case; you just chose not to despite your constant complaining about it. Reply
bobbozzo - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkHi, I just got one of these; all the air intakes have filters, but they are not very accessible; the one on the front fans requires opening the case and then popping off the entire front panel.
Otherwise, it seems pretty well made. I haven't put a computer in it yet though. Reply


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I seriously need some advice here. I have a tech-blog where I use some one to write articles for me. I'm really having trouble deciding the use of images. Blog articles without images looks really lame. I know I can't just steal anyone's image and put it on my site right? So I though I can just use the link of the image I need without uploading anyone eases image. I thought this would be good for the site I'm linking too as I'm giving them some link Juice!
Today embarrassingly I found that this technique is called "Hotlinking" :/ . Which is kind of stealing bandwidth if used without permission.
Can Some one shed light on this. Where can I find trouble images for my blog. Please note that as my site is mainly about newest technologies so free images usually won't serve the purpose..
Any word is welcome!
What you might want to look for are royalty free stock images. A site such as http://istockphoto.com usually has them at a good price. There is one, too, that offers free images, but I can't think of the link right now.
You can also take your own photos ... no copyright issues there.
Have a search around the forums, as there have been several threads on similar topics which might be helpful. For example this one: http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?820199-Sources-for-Website-Images
Those stuff are fine. The challenge comes when I need an image of something that is totally new and most probably not possible to find on stock photos sooner. I guess there is no way but to maybe buy it.
And what do you think about hotlinking? Its illegal is it? And is hotlinking bad for SEO too?
I don't know if it's illegal, but it's certainly unethical. You're effectively stealing somebody else's image, and stealing their bandwidth to display the image on your site. Suppose you decide that the only way to get the images you need is to buy them, so you pay to get them legally, and then one of your competitors hotlinks to those images. How would you feel?
I don't know if it's illegal, but it's certainly unethical. You're effectively stealing somebody else's image, and stealing their bandwidth to display the image on your site. Suppose you decide that the only way to get the images you need is to buy them, so you pay to get them legally, and then one of your competitors hotlinks to those images. How would you feel?
You are right, I know that. But on the other hand you are giving them link juice right? So isn't it a trade off?
I've seen no benefit whatsoever from the people who have hotlinked to my sites, and I now take steps to block the practice. If you genuinely believe that you are offering a reciprocal benefit, then why not contact the site owner and ask if they will allow you to link to their images?
I've seen no benefit whatsoever from the people who have hotlinked to my sites, and I now take steps to block the practice. If you genuinely believe that you are offering a reciprocal benefit, then why not contact the site owner and ask if they will allow you to link to their images?
amm asking the webmaster is a good idea. Thanks.. But does Google consider hotlinking as a bad practice.. ? Any idea?
Hei TechnoBear,
What about this? downloading an image and hosting on my site and give photo credit to the source. Legal?
Using any copyright-protected work without explicit written permission from the owner of the copyright is illegal. That is the purpose and intention of copyrights.Contrary to popular belief, providing credit or a reference is completely irrelevant in the eyes of the law.
Why do you even ask this question? You know the answer. Everyone knows the answer to this question. It's just that you don't like the answer to the question because it is inconvenient to you, that's the problem...
It seems to me that you are just fishing here for someone to agree with you that using other people's images without permission is fine and dandy. Well it isn't!
Well I had some doubts as recently I'm seeing in big Facebook pages they are sharing pretty much any image. That left some doubt on my head. I heard meme's are copyright free but I have seen many general (non-meme) images shared and I'm sure they don't have permissions. I have few FB pages and I don't upload other people's images and rather share the link. But I'm in a disadvantage. Uploaded images look bigger in the walls and shared link's image previews significantly small. I did search the internet about that and didn't find anything. Are the rules uploading images in FB pages different?
I you are writing about new technologies, don't the producers of that new technology provide images that can be used for free? Like promotional stuff, or press releases? Or contact them directly and ask for it. After all if you write about their stuff, it's free publicity, isn't it?
I didn't think like that thanks. The purpose of opening this thread now well served. I wanted to hear something like this. Coz I was sure all those tech blog out there do not purchase every single images. I couldn't digest that. Always felt something was missing. Thanks again!
This doesn't mean you can just take and use images, though. You still have to make sure you have the right to use them the way you want to use them.
Yeah I know, but I'm sure apple is not going to respond to my mail if I want to use their image..
Well, Apple have a section of Press info, including downloadable images. You would only need to check their terms of use.
ALL images are automatically copyright, regardless of their use or intended use, UNLESS the creator explicitly states otherwise. You cannot share or use an image unless you are given permission by the creator, either by asking them permission, or by them posting a message along with the image granting permission to use the image. Whether it is posted on facebook or the internet, printed in a newspaper or displayed on tv, the image belongs to someone, and cannot be shared without their permission.
Why would you think you can just take an image and use it? Images take time to create. The camera used to take the images costs money, often quite a lot of money for a good camera, it takes time and money to travel to product launches and take these images, process and upload them. The same is also true for animated or computer rendered images, the software to produce them costs money.
Shouldn't the creator be paid for their work?
If they wanted you to use them for free, they would have uploaded them to a free image site.
If you are writing tech reports and reviews, you should be able to source appropriate images from the manufacturers. Always worth specifically checking (no harm developing a relationship with their PR department, especially if it means they'll send you press releases direct), but generally speaking manufacturers are not going to cry 'copyright infringement' if you are using promotional product images and specs when reviewing or commenting their products. This is clearly in the realms of fair use and usually encouraged, not frowned upon by the manufacturers.
However if you need other images to embellish your blog, you'll need to source them either by creating them yourself, or purchasing them from commercial stock photo sites (you may be able to get some from free stock image sites, or from sites that allow free use with credit). You may also find plenty of people who will be more than happy for you to use their images for no payment, but you have to ask their permission to ensure they are happy for you to use it in the maner you intend.
Good luck with your site.
In all the companies I've worked for, I've just used images I've found online.Never had any trouble, apart from product images where a competitor had taken their own photos.But generally, if someone didn't want it stolen/used they wouldn't have made it available for people to download.And the odds of someone calling you up about images being used are highly unlikely.


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In our experience, we had to rely on case reports and physician experience rather than rigorous scientific studies to determine the seemingly best therapy.
Although we found the medical literature helpful in describing the natural history of cholangiocarcinoma, we were disappointed that no studies with sufficient sample sizes have been done in patients with this disease. And, even if such studies were done, the clinical heterogeneity of the disease would make it difficult to determine which particular therapy would work for everyone.
As such, we gathered as much obervational data as we could in determining a case -based treatment regiment consisting of combination of different therapies, some evidence-based from other cancer studies, some anecdotal.
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Hi everyone. This is my first post and I'm really glad to have found this forum.
I am not a web developer but it is something that I am very interested in for some time now and for various reasons; mainly because I am quite dissapointed from the results that I paid alot for.
I would like to start focusing on learning a platform such as wordpress or joomla and I would appreciate your thoughts on which one would be the best choice. I basically want to start learning the best there is as far as potential.
Hi jenganic. Welcome to the forums.
Yes, learning a CMS is a good idea. But another important question is whether you are going to learn the more fundamental aspects of web design, such as HTML (the basic underlying code of a website) and CSS (the means of styling web pages). With something like WordPress, which has a lot of themes (that is, pre-designed templates) available, you can sort of get away without knowing these, but it's better to know something about them.
There are lots of other CMSes out there that we could recommend, but it would help to know what your goals are, because it's not worth recommended a lot of alternatives to WP if you aren't going to get into coding to some extent.
Hi Ralph. Thank you for the response.
I agree on learning the basics first to get a general idea and then focusing on a CMS. My needs are alot in terms of possibilities. Specifically, the website(s) in mind will be dynamic, possibility for profile creation w/ photos and videos, upload mp3s, download, payments etc. I know that some (probably alot) coding will be needed and I might get help for.
I know that every CMS has limitations. Which one is best for customization and gives you more possibilities? Thnx again.
There are many options, with all kinds of considerations, such as ease of use and cost. Drupal is probably the big daddy of them all, with a huge range of possibilities, and it's free. But it is also a fair job to learn. If you really want something free, I'd say look into Drupal or MODx—the latter being a much nicer one to work with, but maybe not as fully featured (though fine for most uses). Personally, I go for ExpressionEngine, which is great to use and has a lot of options, but has a price tag on it, too, which puts some people off. However, the price is trivial, IMHO—especially if you are working for clients.
Thnx Ralph. Although a free CMS is always more attractive :D, I wouldn't mind paying for something that is a lot better than the free ones. I will have a look on both Drupal and ExpressionEngine. Appreciate it all the help.
Does any of the two(Drupal, ExpressionEngine) have any limitations regarding signup (not by the administrator), profiles creation, uploading, downloading or payments?
You'd probably need to specify what you mean by limitations. I'm not familiar with Drupal, but with EE, I'm sure you can do those things—to a greater or lesser extent, depending on any add-ons etc. you may have.
Ralph thank you for all the help. I will try to be more specific soon.
I will appreciate it if any members that use Drupal or WordPress chip in on the conversation and give their opinions also. That will help me choose a CMS to start learning since I can't come to a conclusion by visiting only their forums or websites. I could use some neutral opinions on the matter.
Thnx again.J.
have a same problem
Hi bbrain. As I have mentioned before, I am not a web designer or developer and I wanted to get started on learning a cms. After a bit of research I began (with help) learning wordpress. I think it is the way to go if you need something quite easy to learn.
I am in the process of learning it and I strongly recommend it.
hello Everyone.I'm a web developer.If you are considering of Using a CMS i will recommend Joomla.Its the most powerful CMS with great features and templates for free.The Templates are so good that they can even beat premium templates of many other platforms.Apart from using a CMS you should first plan your website requirements & a rough sketch on paper so that u are clear about the kind of layout that u require.Study about Basics of HTML & then choose the CMS which best fits your needs.To know more about the unique features of Joomla you can visit <snip> Hope it Helps.
Yep Im totally agree with you, there are many good extensions for do everything you want,
As the OP decided a month ago to go with WordPress, there doesn't seem to be much point in continuing to suggest other platforms.
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TWO of East Lancashire's most prominent campaigners have been recognised in the Queen's birthday honours list.
Dave Rogers, who set up the Every Action Has Consequences Campaign with his wife Pat after their son Adam was killed in a one punch attack, will receive an MBE for his services to young people and prisoner rehabilitation.
And Sylvia Lancaster, whose daughter Sophie, 20, died after being attacked in Stubbylee Park, Bacup, in 2007, for dressing 'like a goth', will be awarded on OBE for her commitment to increasing community cohesion and reducing hate crime
Mrs Rogers said she and her husband, from Blackburn, were 'absolutely delighted' to receive the recognition for their campaign, which is backed by the Lancashire Telegraph.
She said: "It is good to know that there is a real awareness of the work being done by the charity. It is particularly pleasing that Dave's significant contribution has been recognised.
"Since Adam died in 2009 Dave has worked tirelessly to make a real difference in Adam's memory.
"Dave has been a tower of strength within the charity. His dignity, gentleness, warmth and presence has reached out to so many people.
"People say the work being done by Dave is inspirational, but Dave would say he is doing it for Adam who made the world a better place when he was alive and continues to do so after his death.
"We still miss him more than words can say."
Mr and Mrs Rogers came up with an educational programme designed to make children think about the consequences of their actions.
So far 3,500 packs have been sent out. It is being used widely in Lancashire, Cumbria and Greater Manchester.
Mr Rogers, 81, has also been involved in work in prisons as part of restorative justice sessions.
Ms Lancaster, who said she already had her hat picked out for when she meets the Queen, said she burst into tears after receiving the news she was being honoured.
She set up the Sophie Lancaster Foundation, which is based in Deardengate, Haslingden, to raise awareness of hate crime following her daughter's death.
The campaigner said: "It is just fantastic.
"I got a phone call from the cabinet office saying I had been awarded an OBE and I thought it was a joke.
"People like me don't get things like this, it is all a bit overwhelming.
"It is not just about me, it is about the work others have done and the fantastic support we have from alternative sub cultures.
"This award is excellent recognition for the foundation."
*EAST Lancashire residents from all walks of life have also been recognised in the prestigiousQueen's Birthday Honours List.
Majid Hussain, executive director at Accrol Papers in Blackburn was one of the recipients of the MBE.
The 37-year-old dad-of-one from Blackburn Road, Accrington said that he thought that there 'must have been a mistake' when he received the letter.
Since joining the family firm in 2009 he has built the business into the largest wholly-owned British company producing tissue paper and kitchen roll and the fourth largest soft tissue converter in the UK.
Sales have increased to almost £75m and employee numbers have increased by almost 200.
He said: "I didn't know how to react.
"I'm extremely honoured and privileged and I have had that butterfly feeling ever since."
Nigel Dixon, from Blackburn, also received an MBE for voluntary service to sport in the town along with Andrew Holt, founder and managing director What More UK Ltd for services to manufacturing and the community in Burnley.
Bacup-based GP Dr Mohammed Jiva, who works in Rochdale, was awarded an MBE for services to general practice and former regional chairman of the Conservative Party, Adrian Mitchell, from Nelson, received the award for voluntary political service.
Michael Welsh from Chorley has been awarded an MBE for services to the community in Lancashire while James Eaton from Bacup received the award for charitable services in Rossendale.
Mary Pickles from Burnley was awarded a British Empire Medal (BEM) for services to the community in the town.


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The Crap We Missed – Monday 2.13.12
Welcome to Monday's The Crap We Missed with some scraps left behind from our Grammys and BAFTAs coverage that couldn't be just left under Fish's desk for when he has an accident. I won't have it! Gems like Black Sam Elliot dropping my favorite photobomb of all time (extremely close second here), Paul McCartney just before firing his entire security detail, and Jonah Hill who apparently refuses to put the fat pants back on.
It's not unusual for Tom Jones to still be alive *pours out malt liquor for Carlton*,
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REFUSING to allow his milestone to slip under the radar, former Kendal RUFC back row forward Mark Wilson brought up his Newcastle Falcons century in headlining style.
The 24-year-old enjoyed a night to remember while making his 100th appearance for the Kingston Park club in the 29-0 LV=Cup success against Newport Gwent Dragons.
Featuring in his favoured number eight spot for the first time in 18 months, Wilson – who also plays blindside flanker – stole the show with two tries and the man of the match accolade.
But with membership of the 100 club secured, the ex-Kirkbie Kendal School student is not content to simply toast this achievement, with further champagne moments the clear aim.
"I'm delighted with the 100th appearance as when I first started I made that one of my goals and I see achievements within the club as a big thing for me," he said.
"I've been coming to Newcastle Falcons a long time, since I was 14, and it's nice in my fourth year as a professional to get to 100.
"Hopefully I will go on and get another 100 if things go well and go to plan.
"I couldn't have written a better script to be honest. The best thing was the team and the pack in front of me were outstanding on the night so it made my job quite easy.
"It was my first game back at number eight for some time so it was good in that respect as ultimately that is my favourite position.
"Hopefully in the coming weeks I can play at number eight in the Aviva Premiership and reach that standard again."
Wilson made 30 appearances for Newcastle last season en route to collecting the Ken Lockerbie Trophy after signing a professional contract with the north east side back in 2010.
While also spending time on loan at Blaydon, his formative years were spent at Mint Bridge where he donned the Black and Amber shirt of Kendal RUFC.
And Wilson casts little doubt on his spell in Cumbria being anything other than vital in terms of his rugby education and sporting development.
"Kendal is a great club and it's good to go back when I can," he added.
"I have been to other clubs and there aren't many still knocking around which have that real rugby club feeling where everybody knows each other.
"You could go for a beer with any of the lads while at the same time competing hard and hopefully they can get back up the leagues where they belong.
"At the time there was no junior set-up at Kendal so when I came back from the Penrith junior set-up I slotted straight into the senior stuff.
"And the year and a bit I played for the senior side really brought me on. I was playing with men and getting used to senior rugby and that held me in good stead for the future.
"I also owe a lot to my old PE teacher Dean Barker, he has been with me the whole time really and guided me when I've needed it.
"I speak to him on a regular basis and he keeps me on track. His input was massive earlier in my career and he set my ambitions high."
And while retaining great fondness for the club itself, Wilson also enjoyed on-field success with Kendal with one season in particular remaining in sharp focus.
"The biggest standout moment was when we won every game back when it was North One, just below what was the old National Three," he said.
"We won every game, I think it was 22 out of 22, and had the likes of Dan Stevens playing at ten and a good core with Billy Coxon, Duncan Green and Richard Harryman in the front row.
"There was also James Gough in the backs as well as Ian Voortman which made for a good team. That time was definitely a highlight."
So with his career going from strength to strength, has Wilson – who captained England Schools during the 2009/10 season – allowed himself to consider thoughts of international recognition?
"Everyone's dreams and ambitions are different but the main thing for now is keep playing regularly for the first-team at Newcastle and keep playing Premiership rugby," he added.
"Obviously I'm not going to sit here and say I want to play for England. I aim to get my head down, control the controllables and keep performing as I am.
"And then hopefully that will put me in good stead in terms of selection for any representative honours. But it's a case of working hard and enjoying it.
"And at the end of the day that's when I'm playing my best rugby when I'm enjoying things and hopefully staying at eight will be a good thing as well."


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Thakoon Spring 2013
For the last three seasons Thakoon Panichgul has held his runway show in the ballroom at The Plaza. And while it's a grand space in and of itself, for a Thakoon show, it felt forced. Whether it was too stuffy, too ornate, or just plain too old for a young designer who dresses young women (most likely a little of all three), it wasn't the right setting for someone who specializes in intelligent designs that are simple, clean, and often witty. So bravo to whoever made the decision to move back downtown. This season, Thakoon showed in a bright, spare gallery in Chelsea, not too far from where he used to stage shows. Deliberate or not, it was a symbolic venue for two reasons: One, the clothes felt uplifting and stripped of the tricky stylings of seasons past; and two, it reminded you of the pre-Plaza days. After witnessing a collection as strong as this one, it's clear. All apologies to Stella, Thakoon is getting his groove back.
He never needed a space filled with opulent treasures. They only distract from his careful tailoring, couture-inspired silhouettes, and beautiful fabrics. Panichgul's clothes stand out on their own and stand out they did. In a literal sense, boxy poplin tops and organza cocktail dresses stood far from the body. (Panichgul was inspired by mod sixties shapes.) But also, those last few looks, like the orchid-embroidered trapeze dress with braided leather trim? The A-line strapless number in a custom-blue silk printed with butterflies and then laser-cut into butterfly shapes? Outstanding. Also, the semi-sheer sweaters in pale blue and coral worn over crisp, white shirtdresses felt light and fresh—especially after all the dark colors and leather we've been seeing these last few days. (As great as some of spring 2013's jackets and suits have been, editors on more than one occasion have had cause to ask each other whether they're looking at spring or fall.)
Of course, it was also refreshing to see Panichgul returning to his old self. "It's not that I'm sick of reality, but I wanted something different, a little otherworldly," he said backstage. "When I was younger, fashion was such a fantasy, so I was dreaming a little bit." Please, dream on.


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This week, The Wall Street Journal ran an advice column addressing the concerns of a reader who must take required minimum distributions from her retirement accounts this year. Should she sell her winning funds or her losers, she wondered.
The short answer: She should sell her winners because then she would be "selling high," according to the article.
It's the holy grail of investing: Buy low, sell high.
Advice for savers
Investors who are still in the accumulation phase of retirement planning would do well to heed the "buy low" part of that advice. Apparently, it's tough to do, judging from the behavior of people with access to defined contribution, or DC, plans, such as a 401(k) or 403(b).
A recent study by researchers at the University of Missouri examined deferral rates among plan participants at three points in recent history, using data from the 2004, 2007 and 2010 Survey of Consumer Finances, or SCF. That triennial survey is a treasure trove of data.
The researchers wanted to see if plan participants contributed more to their plans when stock prices were on sale, as rational people would do. Consumers don't go to Macy's and pay full price if they can wait a week or two for a big sale and get 40 percent off, right?
The results were unsettling because rather than take advantage of the fire sale on stocks, plan participants recoiled from the markets, contributing less than they did when markets were performing relatively well -- i.e., when stock prices were higher.
The researchers examined how much participants deferred as a percentage of the maximum amount allowed by the Internal Revenue Service. For instance, in 2010, plan participants were allowed to contribute up to $16,500 in a DC plan, and those 50 and older, an additional $5,500 in catch-up contributions. So if someone age 30 contributed less than 20 percent, he would have deferred less than $3,300 that year. The table below shows the levels of contributions in each of the three years studied.
Deferral rates of plan participants in defined contribution plans
|Amount deferred*
|< 20%
|20% - 40%
*as a percentage of the maximum amount allowed by the IRS.
Source: "Determinants of Defined Contribution Plan Deferral," a study by Rui Yao, Jie Ying and Lada Micheas at the University of Missouri.
Recall that in October 2007, the stock market began its inexorable slide, hitting bottom in March 2009. So the 2010 SCF would have reflected investor sentiment in the aftermath of the financial crisis. It appears to have captured fear in investors' hearts. Investors contributed much less in 2010 than they had in previous years. Instead, they could have contributed the same amount or more, which ultimately would have helped them to better prepare for retirement.
The study controlled for employment status and income, so it looked strictly at deferral behavior. "If people did not lose their job and did not have a sudden increase in consumption needs, they should not have reduced or refrained from DC contributions," says Rui Yao, Ph.D., an associate professor in the department of Personal Financial Planning at the University of Missouri and lead author of the study.
After suffering two devastating bear markets over the past 13 years, it's easy to understand why investors don't trust the stock market. But historical returns show that, yes, the market tanks from time to time, but it eventually recovers. Those who invest in the face of adversity win in the end.
Should investors ever completely lose faith in the stock market?
"Empirical evidence indicates that at no point should investors lose total confidence in the stock market," says Yao.
There will be no permanent crashes unless the government takes over the ownership of businesses, she says, "which happened in some countries, but I am reasonably confident that this will not happen in the United States."
How will you react when the stock market crashes again?
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Barbara Whelehan is a co-author of "Future Millionaires' Guidebook," an e-book by Bankrate editors and reporters. It is available at Amazon, Barnes & Noble, iBookstore and other e-book retailers.


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FT. LAUDERDALE, Fla. – In a tough Wednesday night contest that featured the two best scoring offenses in the Sunshine State Conference , the Saint Leo Lions (14-4, 5-3 SSC) fell to the No. 5 Nova Southeastern Sharks (16-1, 7-1 SSC) by a 85-76 score.
It was Nova Southeastern who scored first, tossing up a layup within the first twenty seconds of play to put the Sharks on the board. Despite three tie scores and a one-point lead change, the Sharks never lost the lead after the eight-minute mark, heading into halftime with a 46-41 score in their favor.
After the halftime period ended, both teams came out hungry for victory, but it was Nova Southeastern who prevailed. In spite of shooting 40 percent from the field in the second half, the Lions fell to the Sharks by a final 85-76 score.
Offensively, the game was a battle on both sides, as Saint Leo shot 33-72 (46 percent) from the field and Nova Southeastern responded by shooting 31-59 (53 percent). In addition, the Lions scored 24 points off of 21 Shark turnovers.
As a team, the Lions' squad tallied 30 rebounds and 14 steals, while sinking 7 of 12 shots from the free-throw line.
Individually, the Lions were led on offense by senior Chelsea Williams, who recorded 24 points on the night; just one basket shy of her career high. Senior Teresa Manigrasso followed her lead with 22 points. In addition, junior Melissa Jackson and Williams each collected five rebounds in the loss.
The Lions will return to action on Saturday, February 1 when they host the No. 13 Rollins College Tars, who Saint Leo defeated in their first SSC match of the season. Tipoff for that game will occur at 2:00 p.m. in the Marion Bowman Center on the campus of Saint Leo University.
For more on the Saint Leo women's basketball team, visit SaintLeoLions.com. Also, be sure to 'Like' the Lions on Facebook and 'Follow' Saint Leo Athletics on Twitter and Instagram.


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At this time of year, Austin bakeries and ice cream shops are simply bursting with both peppermint and eggnog-flavored sweets. You'll also find Christmas cookies galore, with plenty of seasonal cupcakes, cranberry blondies, cream puffs filled with gingerbread cream, and boozy ice cream. Click through the slide show to see where we're getting our fill.
About the author: Meredith Bethune is a writer who of course likes feeling hip and cool at the latest trendy restaurant, but she feels most comfortable tracking down the best tacos, pizza, and barbecue. Follow her on Twitter (@MeredithBethune).


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