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P182 Special Edition - One of the best cases gets betterby Joshua Buss on 4/12/2007 1:00 AM EST
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Anorax - Sunday, July 15, 2007 - linkHi Joshua. Just read this review. To be honest this is a fairly average review. What sets the P182 series apart from other cases is specifically the ability to route cables behind the backplate the motherboard is fixed to and between the rear case cover. There are cable ties, fixing points, and access holes for just this purpose.
By removing the cable mess from the area over the motherboard you give the case a much better airflow and therefore lower overall ambient temperatures. You say the review was rushed but there would have been little if extra time involved in quickly routing the cables behind the keyboard.
So really you have defeated the whole purpose for using this case in the first place. Sorry but a little more attention to detail next time would be good. Reply
Anorax - Sunday, July 15, 2007 - linkThe word *keyboard should read *motherboard. Reply
Jodiuh - Friday, April 13, 2007 - linkWhy must they continue to put the bottom 120 in the middle of the case? My HDD's will roast 10C hotter in that config as opposed to blowing cool air OVER the HDD's. :( Reply
Leth - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - linkYou can move the middle mounted 120mm fan to the front of the case if you wish, or even add an extra so you have two 120mm's in the bottom part. Having two gives you a push/pull airflow setup for hd's mounted in the bottom ;) Reply
afilis - Friday, April 13, 2007 - linkCorrect me if i'm wrong but i haven't seen anywhere in the review if you can fit a pair of 8800gtx with both cages installed, as these gfx cards are extra long...?? Reply
bamacre - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkDon't get me wrong, this case, and others have a lot of features not found in a Dell, but take a peek inside a Dell XPS 410 or Precision 390.
Dell's assembly for the optical drives is one major thing that no other cases I have seen have tried to duplicate. The Precision 390 case design even allows for the changing of the optical drives to be rotated so that the system can be used as a desktop or a tower, and this change takes literally 90 seconds. It is just so incredibly easy to add or replace an optical drive in a Dell because of the case design.
This complaint is personal but would apply to any of us who would only want one or two internal. Again, Dell's design for hard drives is so simply and yet so brilliant. Two pull-out plastic enclosures. No screws needed. Pull one out, slide in a hard drive, and pop it back in. It is just so easy, and this is definitely something that some case makers could easily implememnt.
The hard drive enclosures are located on the bottom left and center. Reply
JarredWalton - Friday, April 13, 2007 - linkAlready done http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=28...">months ago. A quote you'll probably agree with:
It's almost a shame that most people that purchase an XPS 410 are unlikely to appreciate the ease with which the system can be upgraded.
That said, the XPS 410 chassis is not designed to house dual GPUs or a variety of other options. It's a good all-in-one system for a non-enthusiast (i.e. people that don't care about overclocking), but it's not inexpensive either. Reply
bamacre - Friday, April 13, 2007 - linkYeah, I remember the article, it was very good actually.
But what I meant to say was that other case-makers should implement some of the nice features that Dell has in their cases. Reply
JarredWalton - Friday, April 13, 2007 - linkAh, I see... maybe they want to avoid patent infringement lawsuits? ;)
One possibility is that they want to make sure their cases are more compatible. You have to be able to fit anything from an old P3 up through the latest Core 2 Quad or X2 in a standard ATX case. Part of the reason Dell cases can be easy to work with is that they are often designed for a specific, proprietary motherboard. I'm still surprised we haven't seen more screwless designs that actually work well, however. Reply
bamacre - Friday, April 13, 2007 - linkYes, patent infringement is certainly a possibility.
And yes, Dell has an edge in that they are specifically made for their motherboards. They've done a good job utilizing that, too. One particular nice feature is that blue thing that gives physical support for heavier video cards, to prevent them from bending over time. I work on a lot of Dells, I've replaced everything possible in the xps 410 and Prec 390, except for the case/mobo/psu. They are just so damn easy to work with. Even replacing the cpu is a breeze. Reply
soydios - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkPage 2: "...easy access to both 12" fan filters for easy cleaning" should read "access to both 120mm fan filters." Reply
JoshuaBuss - Monday, April 16, 2007 - linkthanks.. fixed Reply
Welshtrog - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkYes it looks very nice but I for one will not be buying as I consider that Antec have only done half a job in this case by failing to invert the motherboard after fitting the PSU atthe bottom of the case, also no removeable MoBo carrier Reply
CorbaTheGeek - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkI didn't see the brand and model number of the power supply used in the article. Reply
CorbaTheGeek - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkSorry. Just found it. Zalman ZM460-APS PSU. Reply
Richey02hg - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkIs there a way to check ahead of time if your power supply has long enough cords? Of course this being if you haven't bought the PSU yet. I do not see anything on newegg that says how long PSU cords are or how long you need to have. Or have all the big PSU companies adjusted and made their cords longer over time? Reply
InuYasha - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkoh god, i can just see my finger prints all over it and i'll never wipe them off Reply
sjholmesbrown - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkA little off topic, but could anyone point me to the mATX roundup mentioned in the article?
I'm building a SFF PC for my cousin, and would like to see Anand's take on several MB models.
A search for various 'mATX' 'roundup' 'micro ATX' etc. terms didn't reveal any articles, especially since the review indicated the roundup was fairly recent.
Thanks in advance. Reply
JoshuaBuss - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkhttp://anandtech.com/casecooling/showdoc.aspx?i=29...">http://anandtech.com/casecooling/showdoc.aspx?i=29... Reply
chicagofilms - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkJust a heads up, the new P180 cases are modified and have all the same features as the P182.
I just got my P180b yesterday from Newegg. $129 w/$30 rebate
It is essentially the same case, with a black finish. The inside is not black though but he standard steel finish. It has the raised mobo so I routed my cables behind it, the same tri-cool fans with the switches on the outside, and the holes for water cooling.
It's a pretty great deal since you are essentially getting a P182 (without the mirror finish) for $99. Reply
Spanki - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkYep... I mentioned that ^ up there already :). I got the hybrid case as well back in March (others reported getting it since late Feb.). The primary difference, as far as I can tell is that it's black, instead of the new gun-metal grey of the 'regular' P182. Reply
i4mt3hwin - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkIs there any other differences between the P182SE vs the P182 besides the finish? I'm really not into flashy looking cases but the features described in the article def appeal to me as I'm looking to buy a new case. Reply
Deusfaux - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkand the cable routing features behind it? They didnt even install the PSU that way or take advantage of them, and its a hell of a rat's nest in their install picture.
Anyways I already have a P182SE on order to replace my P180 Reply
BPB - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkMay I ask from where you ordered it? The http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...">Newegg price is so high. Reply
classy - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkThe P180 series is flat butt ugly. Reply
Spanki - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkIt's the classiest case on the market today. I'm guessing you're one of those winky-blinky, windows and neon type of guys :). Reply
strikeback03 - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkThey're classy with the door closed. IMO doors make cases pretty much useless though, and the front of the case inside the door is nothing special. Reply
yacoub - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkI love my Antec P150 (now also available as the SOLO (no included PSU)). I've had it since they were first available a little over a year ago and it's been an excellent case. An assortment of nice quiet/silencing features, a good amount of room inside for a "mini" tower, and what seem to be very good quality parts.
If anyone is looking at the 180 or 182 and wishing there was something a bit smaller, definitely look at the P150 or the SOLO. Reply
Icepick - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkAgreed. The Solo is easily my favorite case and that's what I chose to house my Core2Duo build this past October. The silencing features, cable management and appearance make it the best case out there. Reply
jpeyton - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkAntec made notable changes regarding cable management for the P182, particularly the design of the motherboard tray. Specifically, there are cut-outs in the tray for routing cables behind the tray between different compartments, and there is more room behind the tray to allow for thicker cables (like a 20/24-pin ATX PSU connector).
I would think such important differences between the P182 and the P180 should be touched upon in the article; perhaps you could even incorporate some of the cable routing features into your "Installation" portion of the article? Reply
kellehair - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkAnybody have a list of differences between the 180 and the 182? I have the 180 already but would consider upgrading, assuming it really is an upgrade. Reply
cbuchach - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkYes, I own a P180. The case is great except for the fact that all the cables from the bottom power supply/hard drive compartment route through the panel opening. The new cable routing features, instead of the mirror finish should have been the focus as in my opinion this is the best update to the case. Reply
Sunrise089 - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkDid I miss the pricetag for this special finish model?
Also, how many fans are being used? It looks like you have the top and rear fans installed, plus another 120mm between the lower HD cage and the power supply. But what about the two front fans, in the upper and lower compartments? Reply
Richey02hg - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkyes you did, last page i believe it says 229 (yikes!) Reply
Sunrise089 - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkNope, that was added after the article was posted. Reply
JoshuaBuss - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linknewegg has it for $230, as mentioned by someone else in the comments here. Reply
JarredWalton - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkNot the SE version, but the standard P182 is a lot more readily available (and cheaper):
http://www.atacom.com/program/print_html_new.cgi?c...">ATACOM $130 + shipping
http://www.etech4sale.com/ANTEC_PERFORMANCE_ONE_SE...">Etech4Sale $125 + shipping
http://www.excaliberpc.com/ANTEC_PERFORMANCE_ONE_S...">ExcaliburPC - $127 + shipping
http://www.computerbrain.com/applications/search/i...">Computer Brain - $132 + ship
No idea if these guys are safe or not, but I also found the P182SE for $191 + shipping from http://ozdirect.com/product_info.php?products_id=6...">OZDirect
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=antec+p182&...">Froogle is your fried! :) Reply
yyrkoon - Sunday, April 15, 2007 - linkATACOM should be, I've ordred from them before. ExcaliburPC IS safe, as is computerbrain, never heard of etchforsale, and anyone putting numbers in their business name, can not be all that sophisticated, now can they ;)
Anyhow, look on resellerreview . . .
nicolasb - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - link> Also, how many fans are being used?
Like the P180, the case comes with three fans, but there are mounting points for another two if you really want to go nuts....
Can anyone tell me what the dimensions of the PSU compartment are? It'd be nice to know which 750W-850W PSUs will actually fit into this case. Reply
giantpandaman2 - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkIt's a bit of a lower end case, but, shockingly enough, it actually does come with hard drive suspension gear. I picked it up for $60 at a Fry's sale. It's definitely not as pretty as the P180's that were sitting next to it, but I couldn't believe I how cheap I was getting a tooless, quiet (comes with modest sound dampening material) case w/4 HDD suspension mounts and dual air filters. Obviously there's much better cases out there, but not for $60. The only thing it lacked was a front intake fan, easily solved for another $10 though. Reply
Icepick - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkThey already did test it back in 2005. http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2670&p...">http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2670&p...
Well, they tested the P150 but, it's identical to the Solo (power supply excepted, of course). Reply
BPB - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkActually, even excluding the power supply, they are not 100% identical. The P150 uses "trap doors" to cover the 5.25" and 3.5" drives. I don't mind it, but many do. It you like to use things like the headphone jack on a DVD drive or see the activity light, then you may not want the P150 anyway. Of course the Solo is cheaper due mainly to its lack of PSU, but in my opinion the Solo is not as good looking. I own both. Reply
yacoub - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - link
"If you like to use things like the headphone jack on a DVD drive "
Wow, do people actually use that? The last time I did was 1996 when I had my first computer and tried that jack out with a pair of headphones just to see how it worked. :D Reply
yacoub - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - link(obviously referring to a CD-ROM drive btw, not a DVD-ROM drive) Reply
BPB - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkNot so http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...">obvious! Click on the image and you will see, why strong wording and the truth, do not always agree.
My experience is that many folks use the jack at work if the PC enclosure doesn't have a front headphone jack. And my experience is many work PC's at large, cheap companies do not. Reply
BPB - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkI agree. I got the Solo for about $40 (shipped) from Outpost recently. That, of course, is after rebate. I wanted something smaller and quiet. I also have the P150, which is almost identical to the Solo. I'm not sure which I prefer. Still, if I decided I wanted to go back to a taller case, this would probably be at the top of my list. I'd have to wait for a special though, the list price is simply too high. By the way, I believe the Solo and P150 support 3 suspension mounts, not 4. The following are from the specs listed at Newegg:
4x 3.5" (Tray Mount) or 3 x 3.5" (Suspension Mount) for HDD
Spanki - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkI'm not sure if it happened earlier than the 182 rev or not, but the mb tray has also been inset a bit from early 180s. This gives room 'behind' the mb tray to run some of the power cables (I have my big, primary 24-pin power cable running up the back of the mb, out of the way).
Also, I ordered the P180B from Newegg at the beginning of March and what I recieved was basically a P182, but painted black, instead of gun-metal grey. Apparently Antec/Newegg started shiping these hybrid models out in late Feb. - others have reported this as well. Reply
Richey02hg - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkso you are basically getting a black p182 (the color i'd want) for the price of a p180? Reply
Spanki - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkYes. As far as I can tell, the case I got is the one shown in the first few photo's http://www.silentpcreview.com/article717-page1.htm...">on this page. Reply
MadAd - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - link
Yes I bought a 180B a couple of weeks ago, it too has the twin switches externally accessible for the rear fans plus space behind the motherboard for wire routing.
A plus was being able to fit a 120x38mm fan infront of the middle tray (just) because I simply do not like 25mm wide 120s so took them all out, speedfan is great for controlling fan arrays so the tri-switched fans were less than useful compared to my own.
Cons were that I needed to buy a 12v4 extension as my seasonic s12 would not make the stretch to the top 12v on the A8N32-SLI mobo, also I still cannot see the point of the PSU cage when it has the 4x standard bolt holes in the rear, another useless item that is now thrown in a box to gather dust.
The rubber grommets that hold the hard drives in were also a bit flimsy and easily distorted before a good grip was had and also the top toolless optical mounting jams in somewhat.
Otherwise its a great case for cooling, my temps have never been lower and even while gaming speedfan rarely has to bump them up, whereas before in my old case with the same fans, just 10 minutes of BF2 and up went the temps making the fans lift...Ill have to wait for summer to see how good it really is but do far im impressed with the cooling ability. Reply
yyrkoon - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkIF they do sell for $170usd, I would have to say that is too much. I have seen the regular P180's at around $100 usd, and sometimes less. Having said that, I personally own a Lian-Li PC-G50(silver), and while without buying the add-on 3x5.25" to 4x3.5" drive converter, you would not be able to get more than 3 drives in it. Now, I do own one of these bay converters, and I do have 4 HDDs internally (soon to be 6), and I have to say, comparred to this case, it is much more of a bargin. Keep in mind that I am a fan of Antec, and I love the fact they make good, solid cases (and PSUs), that are very functional, with lots of room.
This Lian-Li case I own, is also far more in-expensive, made of 100% aluminum, looks very good( clean, no bright colors, or 'fancy' lines ), very functional, is a reverse ATX layout (if you are into that sort of thing), very quiet, even with the stock fans, and is only 15" tall ! Add the bay converter kit, and you start to encroach on the Antec case in price.
Now the one major thing I have as an issue with my own case . . . No room for a HUGE third party CPU fan, in fact, the best I could probably fit in it, would be the cooler supplied with some AMD Opterons, which is exactly what I bought, just have not put it in yet.
All in all, I'd have to say, the P182SE sure is a flashy case, probably too bright for me, and I would probably prefer a black P180 instead. That being said, the internal layout is pretty dahmed nice. Reply
BPB - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkForget about $170usd. Here's http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...">Newegg's pricing: $229.99 + $23.72 for shipping for a total of $253.71! Yikes, that's awfully high. Reply
strikeback03 - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkThe review stated that the normal P182 is around $170, with the SE version (which you linked to) at $230 Reply
yyrkoon - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkStill, for $250, you can get a very nice Lian Li case, somethign I myself would preffer. Reply
yyrkoon - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkForget about newegg, they tend to jack up prices because . . . Someone gave the item a good review, people are buying it moderatly and they have a script that jacks the price up(cost, and demand), and hardly seem to be in a big hurry keeping the 'hot' item in stock.
I bet if you froogle around, you'll find someone like eWiz, ZZF, or mWave has it for a much better price. All of thee companies are as reputable as newegg, just some of them do not have as good shipping (ZZF usually has free shipping on everything though), and may take up to 7 working days to arrive at the doorstep . . . Reply
cbuchach - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkYes, I own a P180. The case is great except for the fact that all the cables from the bottom power supply/hard drive compartment route through the panel opening. The new cable routing features, instead of the mirror finish should have been the focus as in my opinion this is the best update to the case. Reply
Gigahertz19 - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkI'm definitely interested in this case for my new comp build at the end of this summer. My goal is to try and build a computer that is dead silent, I want to be able to sleep in the same room at night with my computer 10 feet away and not hear a single whisper. Not sure if this is possible with air cooling but I'll try, so would most people say this is the silentest case you can buy? Reply
tydas - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkWell, I did not go for a silent build but I wanted quiet and with the p180B and my components its very quiet. I'd imagine with the right components like samsung HD, fan less cpu and fan less cpu it could be done. A nice 120mm fan with low rpm is silent so it comes down to components.
hubajube - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkNice case but doesn't allow for good cable management. It looks like a rats nest in there. Oh well, I guess I'll keep my Aspire case for a few more years. Reply
JoshuaBuss - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkActually that's not true at all.. there are a ton of options for cable management. I just didn't take the time to manage them all very carefully because we wanted to get this review out asap. Reply
crimson117 - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkI believe a hole in your otherwise very well-done review is that you used a mATX board, which does not push the case's internal capacity to the limit.
I have a P180 and use a regular ATX board (Asus A8V Deluxe), and let me tell you - it gets VERY crowded down at the bottom of the motherboard...
I have: power supply cabling coming up from the bottom, a PCI TV Tuner card installed in the lowest PCI slot, the front-panel case cables coming in to the motherboard port, and the lower hard disk's cables coming up to the motherboard.
It's very very crowded and difficult to work with.
I personally would not use a full sized board again with the P180; I'd find another classy case or just use a mATX board. Reply
Johnspree - Saturday, December 26, 2009 - linkTo all of you who wants to build a new pc with this Case, Antec P182. I got one my self and I think I have a lot of rooms to work with. All you have to do is run most of you cables thru the other side of the case.
JoshuaBuss - Thursday, April 12, 2007 - linkCertainly in my experience this case has one of the best potentials for building the quietest PC possible.. Reply

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Stop Number Three: Florence, Italy
We left Amalfi very early Sunday morning. Although I hated waking up so early on my vacation, it was still a little nicer because the buses and the train were not as crowded as usual. Other than another bus ride down a West Virginia mountain road that was about one and a half cars wide, the trip to Salerno for the train was fairly uneventful. Thankfully we arrived in Salerno with plenty of time to purchase our tickets and hop on the Eurostar for our five hour ride to Florence.
I liked Florence a lot. The city was a lot more laid back and everyone seemed to move at a much slower pace than the citizens of Rome. Also, maybe it was just the part of the city I was in, but it seemed like Florence had a lot less graffiti than Rome did. Our first night there my classmate Sara, who had been studying in Florence, took us to a restaurant she knew of. As you can probably expect, I was elated to find it was a buffet. For a mere 8 euro we were able to get a drink and all-you-can-eat buffet. The buffet had a ton of weird stuff on it that I would not touch, i.e., Kenneth and David would not have stepped foot in the door. But they did have some potato salad that blew my mind. Point is, I ate until I basically had to roll myself back to the hotel.
The second day we went exploring a bit. Everything was within walking distance and we were able to hit everything we wanted to see that day in about two hours. Our first stop was Cupola del Duomo.
This was one of the biggest churches I have ever seen. Also, as with most every other church I had seen in Italy, the architecture and detail was amazing.
Across the street from Duomo, in the Piazza Duomo, was some other really old building. I have no idea what the building was used for or anything like that, but I was amazed at the detail on the door. This door was actually created in 1401. It just blows my mind how someone can create something so large, yet detailed, so long ago. I wasn't able to get close enough to get a picture of it, but each square on the door depicts a vivid scene of some historical importance.
Continuing on, we reached the Palazzo Vecchio. Again, I have no idea what this building was, but it was very Medieval Times-esque.
In front of the building were a ton of statues. This one is not the actual statue of David, but only a replica of the actual statue. I've taken the liberty of censoring it for any young readers in the demographic this blog may reach.
This next statue was on the other side of the door from David. I have no idea of the story behind it, but they look a little too close for comfort. Maybe they should relocate this one to San Francisco? Again, I censored this one as well. In fact, I should have probably just blacked out the entire picture.
Finally we got to Ponte Vecchio. This is a bridge spanning the river that actually had apartments or shops of some sort built into it.
The view from the back of the bridge offered a nice view of the river as it continued away from the city and into the mountains.
Standing in the center of the bridge and looking down the river gave another great view of the other bridges of the city.
As we walked back through the streets of the city I saw something that I knew dad would appreciate. Although these street drawings are not the three-dimensional drawings that blow our minds, the detail was still amazing.
Finally I saw it, the reason things are so expensive in Florence: the cops drive Defenders.
I guess they have to have some substantial finances to keep these things gassed up and running the streets. They get about eight miles to the gallon. Nonetheless, if I was a cop, I would definitely opt for the Defender over the Mini Cooper that most of the fuzz zip around the city in.
Florence was great and I would love to come back. However, next time I would probably bring more money as there were plenty of things I could buy here that were far too rich for my blood. Now it's off to Amsterdam for a few more days of fun before "class" starts. See you there.
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@19:37 how about you fucking stop me. oh, that's right, because you don't have a dick and balls like the rest of us. What? is this the first time anyone's ever talked back to you before? it must make you incredibly angry to be talked down on by someone you inexplicably despise. Besides, most of the ones who would "shuts you up when you try to open your mouth" (as you said) are just as ignorant as you are. oh, though i guess you're not THAT ignorant, since you bullied some poor asian kid into …


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AS Dudley's Conservatives decide on a new leader their former chief has been talking about his time at the top.
Cllr Les Jones stood down last week, bringing a dramatic end to his tenure as leader of the group, which lost its grip on Dudley Council in an election night bloodbath last year.
The authority had been under outright Tory control since 2004, but 2012's election saw Conservative councillors removed from seats across the UK in a voters' backlash against the coalition in Westminster.
Having moved up from the deputy leader's job in 2011, after the then leader Anne Millward lost her seat on the council, cllr Jones led the council for a year packed with difficult political decisions.
Cllr Jones said: "I like to think I bring to the table a pragmatic approach to do the right thing by the people of the borough. Other people will judge whether I succeeded or not.
"We had to find £38m worth of savings over three years without swingeing cuts to frontline services."
Apart from public spending cuts the 57-year-old Pedmore councillor also took the lead on a number of high profile policies.
He said: "I was disappointed about the city status bid, the purpose was for the borough to get extra funding. I also believed we had a solution to the mosque issue in Dudley.
"We also have a lot of regeneration; I am particularly proud of Stourbridge with Tesco.
"When I became a councillor in 1999 there were big plans for the Angel Triangle which would have finished off Stourbridge for good."
In 2011 he shocked a full meeting of the authority by unexpectedly standing down a controversial decision to close the New Bradley Hall Care home in Kingswinford after a powerful protest campaign.
In tribute to Dudley people who give up their time to benefit others, he said: "What I found particularly interesting was meeting voluntary organisations and seeing what a wonderful wealth of good will there is out there."
Cllr Jones has no intention of leaving the council and would not rule out a return to the shadow cabinet but says it is unlikely he would make a third attempt for a nomination to stand for election as an MP.
His long-time political adversary, Dudley Council's leader, Labour's cllr David Sparks, said: "Les was a worthy opponent with a clear ideology as a Tory yet at the same time was prepared to be pragmatic and take common sense decisions for the good of the borough."


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Duom Dawam felt like his heart had been broken when he missed out on making the Vic Metro squad for this year's under-18 championships. But he was already thinking about how he wanted to finish off the season when he was drafted into the Northern Territory side so that recruiters could see him play at a higher level and he could find out what that higher level felt like. ''It's been fast and hard but really good,'' he said. ''When I trained with them for the first time I didn't know how my teammates played, and they didn't know I played. But I'm picking things up all the time and taking it all as a big positive.''
''Big D'' has done it that way since he was first shown a football in the schoolyard five years ago. At the Western Jets, in the under-16 world team and as part of the AIS-AFL Academy he has tried to listen, learn and practice everything hundreds of times over; should he miss out on being drafted at the end of the year, the young ruckman will keep trying to get better. ''No matter what happens, I'm going to stay on the rollercoaster ride,'' he said. ''I won't give up. I'm going to keep going and going.''
That said, he is doing his best to make things happen now. And as one of three Sudanese boys playing in the championships, Dawam is not alone in trying to reach the highest level of a sport he had never heard of while growing up and that he only started playing when a friend handed him a ball in the schoolyard one day and showed him how to kick, handball and take marks. ''For me learning how to play footy was harder than learning how to speak English,'' he said.
Mabior Chol was eight when he arrived in Brisbane, after fleeing the civil war with his family and spending time in an Egyptian refugee camp, ''which wasn't a good place to live. Most of the people there were racist towards black people, and to experience that for the first time was quite tough''. Like Dawam, he didn't find Australian rules football so much as have it forced on him when a friend insisted he join their school side. The team won and he got to play on the Gabba. ''In my first game I was lost,'' he said. ''It was hard to understand but I liked all the challenges: the marking, the running and the tackling.''
Dawam also spent a few years in Egypt, feeling frightened each time his mother sent him to the shops down the road, ''running really fast to get there and then running all the way home to get inside and out of the dark,'' while Gach Nyuon, Vic Country's 17-year-old ruckman, lived in camps in Ethiopia and Kenya before moving to Melbourne's south-eastern suburbs as a seven-year-old.
He has a fascinating story to tell: William Nyuon Bany, his mother's husband and the man Gach identifies as his father, was a politician and army major in southern Sudan who helped set up the Sudan People's Liberation Movement, was second-in-command of a 210,000 soldier guerilla movement and was assassinated in 1996, months before Gach was born. Bany had 12 wives and Gach has 71 siblings living in countries all over the world, most of whom he has never met. His mother didn't want him to play football when his friends talked him down to the Narre North Foxes two years ago, because she thought it too physical, but she has come around. ''She didn't like it at first,'' he said, ''but now she's a big Collingwood fan.''
Neither Chol nor Gach Nyuon are old enough for this year's draft, and Dawam is jealous: he wishes he had more time to get bigger, stronger and to learn even more. But both have enjoyed their chance to find out what they'll need to be doing this time next year and to test themselves against kids who have been doing it a whole lot longer. ''It's been pretty fast and pretty intense,'' said Nyuon, ''but it's a privilege to pull on the Big V jumper every single game and it's shown me all the things I have to keep getting better at.''


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HIS last musical effort was viewed more than 200,000 times online. Now teacher Adam Dawson hopes his newest offering will be just as successful - in encouraging students to take A-level English.
"Tad Gram Style", a parody of worldwide sensation Gangnam Style by staff at Tadcaster Grammar School, has been a runaway hit attracting national media attention and raising a small fortune for Children In Need.
Its creator, English teacher Mr Dawson, said his latest offering was intended to attract students to take AS and A-level English literature.
"Lost For Words – Why To Study English At A-Level" is an original track written and sung by Mr Dawson, with the help of singer and sixth form student Olivia Moore.
It features the lyrics: "Blank pages turn in every chapter of my soul, I need to read to find the words that make me whole."
Mr Dawson said: "I was asked to make a promotional video to promote studying English literature at A-level. It's about why English and language is so good.
"It's building on the back of Tad Gram Style - the credibility of the English department is high, especially now, and it's a way to make us stand out at A-level.
"The subject is about seeing the world through different perspectives and broadening horizons."
The video has been shown in assembly and at open days at Tadcaster Grammer School.
There were fears that the video of Tad Gram Style, which includes members of staff doing the signature pony dancing made famous by Korean popstar Psy, would have to be removed from YouTube after Mr Dawson was contacted by Universal Music Publishing.
He said no further requests had been made by the business, and the video remains online.
However, he said he was glad Lost For Words is an original.


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text: FX continues its tradition of good, offbeat dramas with The Bridge (Wednesday, 11 p.m.) a police/murder procedural that is worth giving a chance.It's worth getting through the first episode, which can be somewhat off-putting.Detective Sonya Cross (Diane Kruger) is called in when a body is found lying on the bridge between El Paso, Texas, and Juarez, Chihuahua. Lying right on top of the borderline, half in the United States and half in Mexico.Cross takes the cliché of the brusque police officer to a whole new level. Because it's not the standard cliché. She has Asperger's, a form of autism, and she has nothing approaching tact.Watching her talk to the victim's husband is painful. Intentionally.Cross ends up teaming up with Mexican detective Marco Ruiz (Demian Bichir), an uncomfortable but fascinating partnership."The Bridge" is full of unexpected plot twists. And, given a chance, it will draw you in.Also tonight. it's the premiere of Camp (9 p.m., NBC/Ch. 5), which is a summer series that's sort of an odd family drama set at a summer camp where the kids and the adults are sex-obsessed.Elsewhere on TV ...Big Brother (7 p.m., CBS/Ch. 2): Housemates compete to be head of the household.America's Got Talent (7 p.m., NBC/Ch. 5): Auditions continue.MasterChef (7 p.m., Fox/Ch. 13): Eva Longoria selects Mexican-inspired ingredients for a mystery box challenge.Franklin & Bash (7 and 9 p.m., TNT): Peter discovers that Charlie has a daughter.Family Tools (7:30 p.m., ABC/Ch. 4): Jack and Terry decide to expand the family business. (Series finale)The American Baking Competition (8 p.m., CBS/Ch. 2): A winner is declared in the season finale.Secrets of the Dead (8 p.m., PBS/Ch. 7): New scientific research provides insights into King Tuts death and life.Melissa & Joey (9 p.m., ABC Family): Lennox struggles with her college entrance essay.Baby Daddy (8:30 p.m., ABC Family): Riley hosts a book club.Royal Pains (10 p.m., USA): Hank and Divya treat the owner of a doggy daycare.Futurama (11 p.m., Comedy Central): Bender becomes a firefighter; is he also an arsonist?Hot In Cleveland (11 p.m. TV Land): Emmet plans a proposal.Necessary Roughness (11 p.m., USA): Dani helps a self-help guru.The Exes (11:30 p.m., TV Land): Holly and Haskell compete for a woman's affections.The Soul Man (midnight, TV Land): Old friends visit and bring their new foster child.


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Central men's basketball team falls in final minute
INDIANOLA—After battling back from a 10-point deficit, the Central College men's basketball squad came up short in the final minute, falling 75-70 at Simpson College Wednesday night.
The Dutch led 70-69 with one minute remaining when Simpson knocked down a jumper to go up one. A Central turnover and fouls sent the Storm to the charity stripe, but the Dutch only trailed by three after Simpson missed two of its four chances. Central had the ball with 11 seconds left but missed back-to-back layups. The Storm snagged the rebound and added another bucket to secure the win.
"Mistakes and turnovers hurt us down the stretch," coach Craig Douma said. "You can't do those things and expect to win close ball games."
Guard Branden Stubbs (junior, Pleasant Hill, Des Moines Christian HS) had a game-high 22 points and five assists. Center Jacob Winkler (senior, Lancaster, Mo., Schuyler R-1 HS) had 14 pounds and six rebounds while forward Matt Greenfield (junior, Huxley, Ballard HS) had 13 points and seven rebounds. Guard Nick Marinkovich (senior, Clarendon Hills, Ill., Hinsdale Central HS) added 11 points.
Central erased a 10-point first-half deficit and was up by four points with 8:34 left. The game featured 12 ties and 13 lead changes. It's Central's fourth straight game that has been decided in the final minutes.
"We did a good job getting back into the ball game," Douma said. "We just aren't capitalizing. In every game we're up by one or two at the end but we aren't finishing."
The Dutch shot 45 percent from the floor while Simpson shot 50 percent. The Storm reached the free-throw line 23 times compared to Central's 14 trips.
"We're getting dinged at the line," Douma said. "We need to at least even up the attempts. We've got to play better defense and get some stops and execute offensively."
Central travels to Storm Lake Saturday, facing Buena Vista University for the second time in less than a week. The Beavers (13-5 overall, 5-2 conference) outlasted the Dutch 84-80 Monday night.
Saturday's women's-men's doubleheader starts with the women at 5 p.m. The men will tip off around 7 p.m.


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On April 5, 2008, the Belgian daily La Libre Belgique once again referred to Adnan Oktar"s Atlas of Creation. The report in question described how Adnan Oktar, referred to as the "Ambassador of Creationism," had come across a number of serious unlawfulness as a result of his work opposing Darwinism, communism and the Freemasons. It then went on to provide the following information about the Atlas:
"Adnan Oktar, known as the professor in his own country, is best known for Atlas of Creation, published by him under the name of Harun Yahya and which strongly opposes Darwinism and evolutionist theses. Oktar has distributed this Atlas to schools and universities, particularly in Belgium… The absence of intermediate fossils shows that evolution from species of animal towards human beings never happened. In the author's view, this theory is responsible for terrorism and inequality between human beings."
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Putting feet in mud shows "dinosaurs and birds are different." A study reported in Nature vol. 399, pp103-104, 141-144 comparing fossil dinosaur footprints with those produced by present day birds running through mud, showed that birds run by moving their knees, with little movement of the hip and ankle and keep their ankles off the ground even in soft mud. Fossil prints show that Dinosaur ankles sank into the ground when running, confirming previous studies of dinosaur bones which suggest they ran using their hips and ankles.
Editorial Comment: Watch this space for more differences between birds and dinosaurs as the evidence builds up to show they aren't even related.


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GAINESVILLE, Fla. – The Saint Leo women's cross country team posted a 13th-place finish from the University of Florida's Mountain Dew Invitational, Saturday morning from University Golf Course. In total, the Lions collected 377 points during their 5K trek.
Continuing the outstanding start to her collegiate career, Tereza Novotna finished as the top Division II runner closing the race with a time of 18:47.54.
Novotna's 25th-place finish was not the only outstanding effort by the Lions as Jillian Browne continued to break the 20-minute barrier with a closing time of 19:58.85.
Lee Ann Antuna finished just outside the top-100 as she clocked in with a personal best time of 21:00.06.
Freshman Holly Blackburn finished six seconds back of Antuna, displaying a time of 21:06.86.
Meanwhile, Elyse Snyder and Kali Carney each registered times under 25 minutes. Snyder posted a time 24:25.54 and Carey crossed the tape at 24:48.99.
McKenzie Kaylor and Melissa Goldstein punctuated the Lions' morning with finishing times of 26:12.63 and 26:29.85, respectively.
The Lions will return to the course on Friday, September 30, when they travel to Orlando, Fla. to compete in the Disney Classic. The women are scheduled to go off at 6:30 p.m. For the latest news, information, and updates on the women's cross country team, visit SaintLeoLions.com.


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Statement by Ambassador Wittig in the Security Council Debate on UNAMA
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Mr. President,
Thank you for giving Germany the opportunity to participate in this debate on the United Nations Assistance Mission to Afghanistan (UNAMA). First of all, may I congratulate you - Mr. President - and your team for your successful chairmanship of this Council in September 2010. In the same vein and with regard to Afghanistan I would like to commend your government for its continued constructive role in promoting regional cooperation in Central and South Asia in particular through the "Ankara Process". We commend your hosting of the "Heart of Asia Conference" in Istanbul in January of this year. And we are looking forward to the conference on regional economic cooperation RECCA IV in Istanbul in early November.
Let me join previous speakers in welcoming the latest SG report on Afghanistan and in extending my special thanks to SRSG Staffan de Mistura for his comprehensive briefing. Furthermore, I would like to express our gratitude to Foreign Minister Dr. Zalmai Rassoul for his valuable remarks.
Germany fully aligns itself with the statement of the European Union.
As a major international donor to Afghanistan and a major contributor to the Assistance Force ISAF, Germany would like to share the following views for further consideration of the Council.
Mr. President,
The London and Kabul Conferences and the "Kabul Process" have strongly reaffirmed the partnership of the international community with the Afghan people and the Afghan government. We note with satisfaction that the Afghan government is engaged in implementing the political commitments outlined by President Karzai in his inauguration speech for his second term as well as at the London Conference. We strongly encourage the Afghan government to continue with this process and to strengthen the Afghan people's trust in their government and the democratic process.
Mr. President,
We are all fully aware of the fact that the solution for the conflict in Afghanistan cannot be military, it must be political. We commend President Karzai for the inclusive debate with Afghan leaders in the framework of the Peace Jirga last June and welcome the nominations for a High Peace Council. And we encourage him and his government to take further steps in this direction. This process can only be and must remain an Afghan led process. The international community can and will only assume a supporting role. In this context, the Afghanistan Peace and Reintegration Program is a very important element - Germany supports this progam through UNDP.
Regarding the promotion of regional cooperation we would like to applaud the concrete steps taken by UNAMA as outlined in the latest report of the Secretary General.
Special credit should be given to the Silk Road Initiative and its regional leverage.
We would like to see this constructive regional approach to be continued.
Mr. President,
As Foreign Minister Rassoul pointed out in his speech at the General Assembly on Monday: "The international community's promise to the people of Afghanistan of a life free from fear of the threat of international terrorism remains unfulfilled." Germany will continue to support the Afghan government in its effort to meet the expectations of its people and the obligations stipulated in the resolutions of this council. In this regard, it is important that ISAF and the Afghan government are about to enter the transition phase, where the security responsibility will gradually shift to the Afghan side. This will enable the Afghan government to fully exercise its sovereignty. During this critical phase, we will remain a reliable partner of Afghanistan and will continue to assist the Afghan people in their struggle to live in peace and prosperity and to enjoy their rights as enshrined in the Afghan Constitution including human rights and women's rights. And our support to the Afghan government and people will continue also after transition is completed.
Mr. President,
This year's Wolesi Jirga elections took place in a challenging environment. However, despite of shortcomings and difficult circumstances, they constituted an important event for Afghanistan's still young democracy. We would like to applaud the courage of the Afghan people for their participation in these elections. We also would like to commend the UNAMA team for all the support provided to the Afghan institutions who are leading led this electoral process. We encourage the relevant Afghan institutions to address all alleged irregularities and fraud in order to ensure a credible and legitimate electoral process. The lessons learned of these elections will also show the importance of electoral reforms. In this regard I would like to underline that Germany is prepared to support the efforts of the Afghan government in preparing the ground for future elections.
We would like to encourage this Council to support Staffan de Mistura and his team by providing necessary political guidance. Our expectations regarding UNAMA should remain realistic and focused on key priorities.
Mr. President,
Before concluding, please allow me to express once again our sincere gratitude to all women and men of the international community who work on the ground to improve the situation in Afghanistan. This includes all personnel of humanitarian aid agencies, the United Nations, the diplomatic corps and the security forces. They all continue to risk their lives for the people of Afghanistan and to enhance international peace and security. They all deserve our greatest respect.


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LAKE LOUISE, Alberta (Reuters) - Her 13th victory at Lake Louise was a lucky one for Lindsey Vonn, who won her second downhill in two days at the Canadian resort in spite of a huge mistake.
The American took a turn so short that she nearly stopped in the top section of the men's Olympic course, yet retained enough speed and strength to upstage all her rivals and snatch her 55th World Cup victory in one minute and 52.90 seconds.
"I cut an edge and told myself, 'Oh my God, what have I done?' But I remembered a similar situation two years ago and I told myself to keep fighting," she said.
"It was actually the best place to make a fault because there's a steep section afterwards to gather speed. I proved today that you always need to fight and that nothing is for granted."
Like in Friday's downhill on the same course, Vonn's compatriot Stacey Cook was second, 0.52 adrift, while Swiss Marianne Kaufmann-Abderhalden was third, 0.62 behind for only her second World Cup podium placing.
It was Vonn's sixth downhill victory in succession in the village that has been dubbed Lake Lindsey because of the tremendous amount of success by the four times World Cup champion.
And with 55 World Cup wins, she has now upstaged Austria's Hermann Maier and equaled the number of victories by Swiss slalom specialist Vreni Schneider.
The record of 62 victories held by Austria's Annemarie Moser-Proell now looks within reach.
"It beats me to be compared to such legends," Vonn said. "Moser-Proell has been holding that record for thirty years and I never thought I could approach it.
"Records are important because they're a trace you're leaving. But you don't think about records when you race, you just try to be at your best, which was not really the case today."
Young girls keep flocking around the American asking for autographs, and a six-year-old fan was carrying a sign saying: "You're fast, awesome and beautiful".
"It's important to be a champion, but it is even more important to be a role model. That's my main motivation," said Vonn, who idolized American downhill ace Picabo Street in her teens.
Vonn will be going for her 14th victory at Lake Louise in Sunday's Super-G, hoping that the foggy conditions that have hampered the competition in the past couple of days will improve.
"It will be harder tomorrow because the level in super-G is much tighter than in downhills," she said.
Her weekend is already a highly successful one after stomach problems forced her to spend a few days in hospital while a controversy raged about her intention to race against men in Lake Louise.
This week, rumors linked her to a famous sportsman, adding a bit of media pressure, but she insisted she could care less.
"Since I've been divorced, rumors have been going on," she said. "I don't read the papers, but it's hard to handle, you have no control whatsoever over it."
Reporting by Patrick Lang; editing by Gene Cherry


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I'm sure there are a lot of ways in which Hubbard went wrong. But since I'm one of those who think that sometimes he really did give a shit about people and his developing ...ology (I know this opinion isn't shared by everyone), I was having fun speculating on what really went wrong with him vis a vis Scn as well as CofS.
A lot of abuses took place before DM took over. A lot of abusive screwed up policies were written before then, too. Plus, if you read Dianetics in Limbo, written by an ex who actually liked Dianetics, you can see that he was venal quite early on. Very interesting.
I've said before that a major problem is that it became all about the group than about the individuals. That's why everyone gets hosed in CofS. But I think I could take it farther back than that, to Hubbard.
Well, I already knew that it started with him. But I wanted to maybe nutshell it a bit. I think that a major problem, maybe the biggest one, was that he didn't concentrate on or have the purpose of altruism. He always wanted to make money. He did care about people at times, he sometimes did "key out" and do some decent things, but it always came back to him, his power and also not being questioned, and his position and his this that and the other thing.
This is where a lot of pundits, religious leaders, cult leaders and others go wrong. The altruism isn't there. With some of these guys, there was some altruism but they lost it. With some, there was none. With most (IMO) there was altruism mixed with conceit, greed and self interest. Which creates a hideous dichotomy and undoes them and their work every time.
I tend to think Hubbard fell under the last category though not everyone will agree with me.
I think that if you're going to humbly tender a gift to mankind of an ideological or philosophical nature, that you need to make it completely altruistic, no strings attached. I don't think that Hubbard ever understood that. I think he thought he could care about it and others but could still have power base, lots of money, and the ego attached to being the founder. I think that this cannot ever ever work.
So in my opinion and that's ALL this is- that's the problem with the founder of Scientology and creator of Dianetics.


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Topic: whipple
My sister was diagnosed 3 months ago. And I keep hearing everyone talking about this procedure. This has never even been brought up to her. Is this because hers is too advanced. It has metasasized to her bones and lymph nodes. I am assuming this is why it's not an option.
Any help would be appreciated.


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On a recent bike ride along the peaceful undulating roads of the Surrey Hills, a battered Ford Fiesta pulled alongside me. From the darkness within came a shout: "Oi, you that man on a bike? Where's yer sideburns?" It was a myopic observation – I am, after all, a woman and thankfully not as hirsute as the beloved Bradley Wiggins, my presumed doppelgänger.
A few weeks later, though, I'm as close to feeling like "Wiggo" as I'm ever going to get. A fine mist hugs the tarmac as I grind my pedals up the 11km-long Col de Leschaux, a mountain pass in the French Alps. It's day one of the Alpine Challenge, a three-day event in the peaks around Lake Annecy, which each September gives enthusiastic amateurs a taste of life as a professional – albeit a pampered one. Participants get to ride in a peloton, compete to rise up the leader board after each day's racing, and ride on closed roads chaperoned by motorbike outriders and tailed by support cars.
The event starts with a mountain time-trial, designed to seed the 200 participants into four pelotons, who will set out together on rides of around 110km each day. Most of the time each peloton rides as one, but each day there is a race section that decides positions on the leader board and who will wear the leaders' jerseys.
As we roll off for the start of the first stage, I'm grateful to have been put in group two – group one contains two real-life professionals (Karl Platt and Dean Downing), a whippet-like 18-year-old, and countless "mamils" (middle-aged men in Lycra), who ride very, very fast.
We crest the first climb and begin a fast descent; the pines lining the hairpins morph into a deep green aromatic blur. Droplets of mountain mist cling to my legs as I weave around hairpin after hairpin in a bunch of six riders, all under the illusion that we are, for a few minutes at least, contenders in the Tour de France.
Out in front is a lead vehicle ensuring that the route is clear and safe. Alain Cordier, the commissaire, has briefed us on the rules and regulations of riding – no crossing the white line, no passing the lead car, and put one hand up if you have a puncture or mechanical problem. If that happens, there's a mechanic and mobile workshop on hand – and even an ambulance, bringing up the rear of the peloton.
At the end of a hard day's ride, we sweep down the grand drive of Annecy's L'Impérial Palace Hotel, right on the lakeside, ready for the next part of the "pro" treatment – a deep, toe-curling, massage. Then it's an early night in the hope of regenerating my damaged body.
Day two dawns and there's a pang of fear in my stomach. It's not the distance – at 116.6km, our route is shorter than many amateur cycling events in the Alps (the Marmotte is 174km and the Étape du Tour is usually around 150km) – rather, it's the thought of today's timed race section. It begins in the pretty town of La Clusaz, from where the road rises, at an average gradient of seven per cent, for 13km until it hits the Col des Aravis, at 1,486m. All this means one thing: pain, fear and loathing for the next 30 minutes. An organiser gives a cheery "off you go guys", to be met by a panicked silence. Some riders speed off, their carbon silhouettes fading quickly into the haze as they zigzag up the climb. Others, including me, start slogging away, rationalising the pain with the thought of the views of a snow-clad Mont Blanc from the top.
I count to the beat of creaking cranks and form a small group with three other riders, hoping that solidarity will somehow engineer a faster, less torturous, ascent. We pass a small chapel dedicated to Saint Anne, the protector of travellers, but her watch clearly doesn't stretch to cyclists.
One man makes it look irritatingly easy: in 1987 Stephen Roche won the Tour de France, the Giro d'Italia and the World Road Race Championship in the same year – making him only the second person to win cycling's revered "triple crown". Roche retired in 1993, and now runs cycle training camps and helps out at events such as this, but from the way that he's softly pedalling, almost dancing, to the flag that marks the summit, it's clear he hasn't lost any of his natural talent.
Reaching the hotel once more at the end of the day brings smiles to every face in the pack. A quick dip in the icy lake is followed by more massage (which leaves me speechless but at least able to touch my toes) then a four-course dinner – a bridge too far for some weary cyclists, who nod close to their gazpacho. It's clear that none us are ever going to cut it as real professionals, but we've found a place where, for a few days each year, we can at least pretend.
Susannah Osborne was a guest of Hot Chillee (www.thealpinechallenge.com). A four-night package costs from £1,040 half-board, including transfers.
Flights were provided by easyJet (www.easyjet.com), which flies to Geneva (60 minutes drive from Annecy) from 13 UK airports


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Discussion of the nature of Ultimate Reality and the path to Enlightenment
Bubblefish wrote:yet mystery remains none the less.
ksolway wrote:Bubblefish wrote:yet mystery remains none the less.
Saying that something is a mystery is really a contradiction in terms. Since if you know that something is necessarily mysterious, as opposed to something which might one day be understood, then you are claiming some sort of absolute knowledge, which is the exact opposite of mystery.
prince wrote:yes it's all a big MYSTERY!!
what a presumptuous dumbass.
Saying that something is a mystery is really a contradiction in terms.
Since if you know that something is necessarily mysterious, as opposed to something which might one day be understood, then you are claiming some sort of absolute knowledge, which is the exact opposite of mystery.
Really, it couldn't be said in any simpler terms.
As Dan somewhat recently pointed out, it is astounding to see how something as simple as A=A can get so complicated.
the dialectic is INCLUSIVE of the observer to the phenomena. It is irrelevant if one object is truth and then mystery to another, ALL ideas and aspects of environment morph from mystery to true and false, all the time.
DavidQuinn000 wrote:Babblefish wrote:
You're merely describing what is going on in your head - and nothing more.
This is probably the core reason why most people here don't find your ideas all that interesting.
Arresting though they might be inside that head of yours, here in the outside world your ideas are flat and lifeless.
They don't excite the intellect, they don't go anywhere, they don't go under the surface of things and reveal the nature of Reality with any penetration or incisiveness.
In short, they are boring.
I just hope I never see the words "true", "false" and "mystery" in the same sentence ever again.
God have mercy on us all.
Leyla Shen wrote: [/b]
Your dick might be bigger than mine, but mine has the stuff after which potency is named...
Leyla Shen wrote:Wank, wank, fucken wank.
See, I don't swallow -- never have.
Nor do I measure my potency by the number of people who suck my dick.
[Plays El Sariri - vihuela, panpipes…]
Aye-yi, hee-hee-heeeeee!
[Cracks her heels rapidly against the floorboards, twisting her skirt left and right.]
Rrrrrrrrrr-eee-ha! Wah-ya-ya-ya, yi-ya-ya-yaaaa.
Suck your own cock, mate.
prince wrote:There's no mystery to where your concept will end up - in a year or two, in the trashcan, so to speak.
It's rubbish mate, it has no value in the broader context, only to such lads as yourself who don't know what the hell is going on, upstarts who think they have all the answers.
Mystery can be defined as simply what you do not know yet.
Those who know the answers won't give them to your project, you are creating an insulated circle, limited in quality and scope by the limits of your current understanding.
I hear a scottish accent. hmmm, yet no hits from Scottland on the list. Interesting. I guess yer one of them 'down under' people, eh?
How do you measure your potency? Surely not by rational tit for tat debate, because so far, both you, DQ and a few others here potency gets all super tiny in simple honest exchange. And who cares?...
Um, that's not how it works...
DavidQuinn000 wrote:Well, I think you're too easily caught up in his theological upstream to be unbiased in this matter. I personally find his ideas too boring to give any sustained attention to, and hence I pulled out of that discussion after a short while. -
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POLICE surrounded a house in Norfolk Close, Clayton-le-Moors tonight after a suspect evading police capture fled onto a roof.
The man, thought to be 26, climbed onto the roof at around 6.30pm when officers came to arrest him, for what was believed to be a breach of his prison license.
The man said he did not why police had come to arrest him and so fled to the roof to evade capture.
His mother was at the scene urging him to come down, but he refused her request.
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POLICE and Crime Commissioner (PCC) for Wiltshire and Swindon Angus Macpherson has today set the police and crime element of council tax for 2014-15.
The Commissioner gave his proposal of an increase of £3.15 a year for the average band D property to the Police and Crime Panel. This increase is to help reduce the impact of central government grant reductions on policing and crime services in the area. The panel agreed with this proposal.
This increase of £3.15 a year and means the rate for the police and crime element of council tax for an average band D property will be £160.92 for 2014-15. For the past three years the rate has remained the same at £157.77 for a band D property.
The Commissioner said: "I am pleased the panel has supported my proposal for this modest increase in the police and crime element of council tax. The rate for policing and crime services in our area has not increased for the past three years and it will still be the lowest in the south west. As some of the panel members said at the meeting, this is a small increase now to protect the police service and other services I can commission in the long term.
"Ensuring value for money for residents while maintaining high quality services is very important to me. That is why we are embracing new ways of working across the public sector, working more closely with other south west police forces and developing a strategic partnership with Wiltshire Council. As public sector budgets continue to be cut, the aim is to work more effectively together to both improve customer service and reduce costs."
Based on current figures from central government, there will be a £3 million or 4.5 per cent reduction in central funding in the 2014-15 financial year, compared to the 2013-14 financial year.
An average increase of £3.15 per household will provide the Commissioner with an additional £740,000 of local income for 2014-15 to help reduce this funding gap.
Looking ahead three years to 2016-17, a proposed increase of £3.15 a year in each of the next three years would reduce the potential funding shortfall by £2.3 million, meaning that savings of £12.5 million would be required rather than £14.8 million. Since the start of the austerity period, savings of more than £10 million have already been made.
Mr Macpherson ran a consultation on the police and crime element of council tax from January 6 to February 3. This included information and a feedback form on the PCC's website, the PCC and members of his team giving presentations at Wiltshire Area Boards and Swindon Locality meetings as well as parish/town councils and the business community being informed.


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QuestionI am 27 years old and I am transferring for the University of Houston. I have an A.S. from Lee Jr. College. I have all my semester paid for except for $1800.00. I need to find a help for this balance. It is due by August 21. Could you suggest any possible sources.
I assume the $1,800 is the remaining balance from Lee Jr. College? If you can''t pay it right now, please go to the Financial Aid Office or the Cashier''s Office to figure out a payment plans. If this is for the University of Houston, they have a very helpful financial aid office to help you figure out how to pay the tuition.
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There is a lot of money out there to help students fulfill their college educations. Take advantage of them.
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Fuuuuuuuuu no more twinkies
Awe man...I was just starting to get into those pink cupcakes.#Chuckstrong
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Somebody else will buy the rights to make twinkies.
But these union people have to be idiots. So they strike, cripple the company, and now what? All out of work? What a successful strike...
I'd do the exact same thing:
"We deeply regret the necessity of today's decision, but we do not have the financial resources to weather an extended nationwide strike," said Gregory F. Rayburn, chief executive officer. "Hostess Brands will move promptly to lay off most of its 18,500-member workforce and focus on selling its assets to the highest bidders."
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I live on the Eastern Coast, Long Island to be more exact. Now in the last 10 years I have been noticing as most of you have that the entire cost of living has been on the rise. Food costs more than it did 10 years ago, gas costs more, taxes are higher. The cost of cars keeps going up every single year as well we all know this. Now the one thing that hasn't really been keeping up with the trend is wages.
My friend had a job working for Cablevision and making 20 dollars an hour back in 2000. He was going to school part time and people were asking him why are you going to school with a job that pays that much!!?? Eventually he moved on.
I landed the same job in 2008, I was making 20 dollars an hour after I went up a pay grade and got a 5 cent wage increase on top of that, calculated by my "work ethic." So that tells me that the salaries are actually completely stale and not keeping up with the times, which I'm sure corporations have no problems with at all.
Now during this period of "recovery" after the recession we went through, profits are again slowly going up, but wages still are not. You can't lay the blame completely at the feet of the guy who is in the $#@! actually making the product. How about the CEO or the Board who are making bad investments and bad moves all over the place. We all know they are the last to lose a job, and usually they still make a profit at the end. Allowing the corporations free reign will end up giving us more headaches than we all care for.
Like Enron, BP, and AIG etc...
At least people will be 0.00001% healthier, right? right?
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this is the biggest win I've ever seen except for the time my ex wife got a DUI- Proven Power Tampa built 6466 ST -
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Thats a good list, took what, 60+ years to build all those? but they didnt do it anyway, Gov. did it..
Oh, BTW, the past 48hrs hasnt been so good to some other people..
Energizer -The St. Louis-based company said Thursday that it expects to shed about 1,500 employees. When finished, the restructuring should lead to $200 million in pretax yearly savings, Energizer said. It aims to have most of its restructuring steps finished by the end of September 2014. Exide Technologies -Exide Technologies announced Thursday that it will be idling its lead-recycling operations in Laureldale and laying off 150 workers, effective no later than March 31. Westinghouse -Westinghouse Anniston, the contractor responsible for shutting down Annistons chemical weapons incinerator, has reduced its workforce by another 50 employees. Research in Motion Limited -Research in Motion Ltd., the maker of BlackBerry smartphones, laid off about 200 people at its U.S. headquarters in Irving on Wednesday, according to a source close to the company who did not want to be named. Lightyear Network Solutions -More than one dozen employees at a Pikeville company lost their jobs this week. Officials with Lightyear Network Solutions said they are consolidating offices in Louisville and Pikeville to save money. Providence Journal -The Providence Journal Co. laid off 23 full-time workers Wednesday as part of a cost-cutting effort, including 16 members of the Providence Newspaper Guild and 7 non-union employees. Hawker Beechcraft -The company says 240 employees will lose their jobs with the closing of Hawker Beechcraft Services facilities in Little Rock, Ark.; Mesa, Ariz.; and San Antonio, Texas. Boeing (30% of their management staff) -Boeing Co. said Wednesday it plans to employ 30% fewer executives at its Boeing Defense, Space & Security unit by the end of 2012 compared to 2010 levels. CVPH Medical Center -CVPH Medical Center has handed pink slips to 17 employees. The layoffs nine in management and eight hourly staffers are part of an effort to help bolster the hospitals financial position in 2013 and beyond, a press release said. US Cellular -The move will result in 980 job cuts at U.S. Cellular, with 640 in the Chicago area, according to a spokeswoman. The cuts are slightly under 12 percent of the approximately 8,400 total employees U.S. Cellular had at the end of the third quarter. Momentive Performance Materials -About 150 workers at Sistersvilles Momentive Performance Materials plant will be temporarily laid off later this month, officials said this week. Rocketdyne -About 100 employees at Pratt & Whitney Rocketdyne, most of whom work in the San Fernando Valley, were laid off Wednesday in response to dwindling government spending on space exploration, the company said. The layoffs were effective immediately, and 75 percent of them came at the facilities on Canoga and De Soto avenues, which employ about 1,100 people. The company has six sites across the Valley. Brake Parts -The leader of an automotive parts plant in Lincoln County has told state officials that there are plans to lay off 75 workers starting in late December The layoffs are expected to start Dec. 28 and continue in the first quarter of 2013 Vestas Wind Systems -Vestas Wind Systems A/S (VWS) is seeking to sell a stake of as much as 20 percent and said its reducing headcount by 3,000 to raise the staff cuts by the biggest wind turbine maker to almost a third over two years. Husqvarna -Husqvarna AB (HUSQB), the worlds biggest maker of powered garden tools, plans to cut about 600 jobs in a move that will save 220 million kronor ($33 million) a year by 2014. Center for Hospice New York -The Center for Hospice and Palliative Care plans to temporarily lay off as many as 40 employees next year as it embarks on a major renovation of the inpatient unit at its Cheektowaga campus. Bristol-Meyers -Bristol-Myers Squibb is following up its lackluster third-quarter results with almost 480 layoffs. As Pharmalot reports, the company notified the New Jersey government that it would scale back in Plainsboro, which means the cuts will hit its sales operations. OCE North America -Trumbull printer- and scanning-equipment provider Oce North America, Inc. will lay off 135 workers in three Connecticut communities, including East Hartford, according to its notice with the state Labor Department. Darden Restaurants -The company, which was among those who had received an Obamacare waiver in the past, is looking to limit workers to 28 hours per week. A full time employee that is required to have health insurance (lest the employer pay a fine) works 30 hours per week, as defined by the Obamacare law. West Ridge Mine -In its statement, UtahAmerican Energy blames the Obama administration for instituting policies that will close down 204 American coal-fired power plants by 2014″ and for drastically reducing the market for coal. United Blood Services Gulf -United Blood Services Gulf South region, the non-profit blood service provider for much of south Louisiana and Mississippi, will lay off approximately 10 percent of its workforce. It was a hard decision to make according to Susan Begnaud, Regional Center Director for the Gulf South region.A layoff is tough enough for employees to deal with, imagine hearing the crushing news that your office is shutting down just before Thanksgiving and Christmas Here are some of the business closings that were announced in just the past two days:
- Caterpillar Inc. will close its plant in Owatonna Minn.
- Mount Pleasants Albrecht Sentry Foods
- The Target store at Manassas Mall Va.
- Millennium Academy in Wake Forest NC
- Target Closing Kissimmee FL Location
- The Andover Gift Shop in Andover MA
- Grand Union Family Markets Closing Storrs Location CT
- Movie Scene Milford Location NH
- Update: TE Connectivity Closing Greensboro Plant 620 Layoffs Expected
- Gomers Fried Chicken in South Kansas City
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- AGC Glass North America to permanently close its Blue Ridge Plant in Kingsport Tenn.
- The Target store at Platte and Academy in Colorado Springs
- The Roses store on Reynold Road in Winston-Salem NC
- Bost Harley-Davidson at 46th Avenue North and Delaware Ave. in West Nashville TN
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For the most part these are unskilled laborers making a damn good wage for what they do, I am also on the East coast and I know many union employees, I have yet to meet one who has a clue about what it takes to run a successful business but they could recite what their pay grade is and how long to the next MANDATORY raise regardless of performance.
A job installing cable is also on the very low end of skilled labor and 20 bucks an hour is a good wage for a job that takes very little training. I am not knocking the trade but it is not the companies responsibility to raise the pay for a job that isn't that hard to do.
Owning my own business for years and having as many as 90 employees at the height has me a bit jaded about unions demanding more pay when the market cannot bear it, I had a service manager demand more pay not only for him but every technician and the service writer or he was going to leave and open his own shop ( he was making about 80k a year at the time)
I was scared, it was the end of March and I carried a couple too many guys through the winter but I wanted to be prepared for the upcoming season. Having no service department come spring in a motorcycle dealership is not good, anywho I let them walk 13 of 15 left. It was the roughest year I ever had but I replaced everyone and had one of my most profitable years. The guy did open up his own shop made it about a year and went out of business, lost his house his car and told me it was the dumbest thing he ever did. He got greedy and wanted it all in the end he lost it all.
Enron and AIG are completely different scenarios, when you pay for stock values and not performance bad things happen and BP is still making cash hand over fist.
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But when profits go up why can't the wages? The cost of living gets higher every single year hows one person supposed to keep up with that? I mean you can't expect somebody to work for the same wage for 20 years do you?
And me mentioning the other companies is what happens when you give them free reign and let them do whatever they want. In the end, the only thing that matters is profits and, "$#@! everything else" is their motto.
BP has a hefty fine coming but they just reported a 5.2 billion 3rd quarter profit,
that fine will barely be a hiccup in the grand scheme of things.