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Possible Labor Law Violation
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I am a member of a union whose sister union went out on strike recently over bargaining issues.
Our own contract has a "No strike, No lockout" clause. However, at our union meeting, we discussed ways to get around that so that we could show our support and hold the picket line with our union brothers and sisters. It was agreed that we would take a day or two of personal leave. At which point I applied for 3 days of leave for an upcoming move. A week before the strike, Management put out a directive that no personal or vacation leave would be granted from that point forward for the following week when the strike would officially begin. Mine was safe as I had received prior approval.
Our Union's Exec Committee held a meeting over the weekend before the strike would begin and voted that all of us would take (in violation of management's directive) the first of our personal leave days on that first official day (Monday). Those of us unable to attend the meeting were called on our cell phones and told that we were not to go into work that day, but to join the picket line instead. This day did not fall on the days I had pre-approved. I crossed with a picket pass that had been provided by the striking union. However, by mid-day I began receiving personally threatening phone calls on my cell and work lines. Originally, I had planned to go out and picket on my breaks and lunch, but one of the calls threatened that if I did "it would not go well", it would be best if I just stayed in with the other 'scabs' for my own safety. By day two of the strike, my own union retalliated against anyone who defied the walk out order and took us off the emailing list and were calling us names, etc. In fact, they held another meeting to discuss what further punishment they could inflict upon us. When it came time to turn in time-sheets, our brilliant exec committee advised our members not to call it "personal leave" but instead use the term "Unpaid Leave", because they could be charged with insubordination. If I'm not mistaken, this constitutes a violation of our "No Strike" clause of our contract. Not showing up to work, taking unpaid leave, and walking the picket line.... if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck... it's usually a duck.
Does my union have the authority to coerce its members to strike, in violation of the contract; especially when it's not our union on strike? Does my union have the authority to coerce it's members to violate a management directive (insubordination)? Does my union then have the right to retaliate against its members who have not done as requested but used a legal route to create the same effect?
Thanks for your help.
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- If, in a 'worst case' scenario, we were not allowed the membership benefits for which we pay dues, i.e. sick leave bank, educational reimbursement, etc.; would this constitute "damages" from a legal standpoint? Or would there need to be compensatory damages to be proven, i.e. wages, or other benefits lost or decreased?
From reading many of the post threads, it is apparent that libel and slander are nearly impossible to win in litigation. If, however, the slander (charges that lead to discipline without being evidenced) lead to the above mentioned loss of member benefits does the level of difficultly in proving the libel/slander decrease?
Thank you and wishes for a Happy Holiday!#1; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:07:00 GMT
- Your best bet is to contact the NLRB and asks the questions and see if they have violated any area.#2; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:47:00 GMT
- Short recap: Our union president and exec committee whom I'll be refering to as the SS (Sisterhood of the Stupid). Placed our union in violation of our contract by coercing it's membership to strike for a different union and then disciplined those of us who knew this was not only illegal, but just a plain bad plan. (We have a no strike clause in our contract), and a company directive, which placed all of the sheep who were bullied into compliance in a position of insubordination with which they were subsequently charged. A few of us had made other arrangements in advance and were able to legally avoid crossing the picket line for most of the week.
The disciplinary letter, which is posted above, is brimming with ridiculous and malicious charges, and was sent out to all of the membership (approx 45 of our co-workers). This letter speaks of our parent union's (NNN) involvement, it's bylaws and constitution, which they sent us but apparently the SS never read, because their letter violates the terms of the bylaws and constitution they sent us. (Idiots, if this weren't my job, I'd find it hysterical.) I address this issue in my respons, which is posted above, as well.
Our parent union's president, whom I'll be referring to as GG (Good Guy) sent a letter to the SS telling them that they were not going to get involved, either from an authority or a financial standpoint, and oh, by the way, SS, you honestly didn't actually DISCIPLINE members without an investigation or hearing, DID YOU? Cause, well, that would be ILLEGAL...
Our local NLRB contact advised us to continue to document everything, which has been easy since the SS continuously sends us email and letters telling us that our discipline would be "suspended" until after the hearing. It's almost as if they didn't read the GG's letter, which I supposed would not really astound me.
We've decided not to respond to them in any manner, figuring, if we give them enough rope, they'll hang themselves.
If you have any better advice or comments - I'd love to hear it.
Thank you all!#3; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 14:00:00 GMT
- Here are violations under the NLRA:
Examples of Employer Conduct Which Violate the NLRA Are:
Threatening employees with loss of jobs or benefits if they join or vote for a union or engage in protected concerted activity.
Threatening to close the plant if employees select a union to represent them.
Questioning employees about their union sympathies or activities in circumstances that tend to interfere with, restrain or coerce employees in the exercise of their rights under the Act.
Promising benefits to employees to discourage their union support.
Transferring, laying off, terminating, assigning employees more difficult work tasks, or otherwise punishing employees because they engaged in union or protected concerted activity.
Transferring, laying off, terminating, assigning employees more difficult work tasks, or otherwise punishing employees because they filed unfair labor practice charges or participated in an investigation conducted by NLRB.
Examples of Labor Organization Conduct Which Violate the NLRA Are:
Threats to employees that they will lose their jobs unless they support the union.
Seeking the suspension, discharge or other punishment of an employee for not being a union member even if the employee has paid or offered to pay a lawful initiation fee and periodic fees thereafter.
Refusing to process a grievance because an employee has criticized union officials or because an employee is not a member of the union in states where union security clauses are not permitted.
Fining employees who have validly resigned from the union for engaging in protected concerted activities following their resignation or for crossing an unlawful picket line.
Engaging in picket line misconduct, such as threatening, assaulting, or barring non-strikers from the employer's premises.
Striking over issues unrelated to employment terms and conditions or coercively enmeshing neutrals into a labor dispute.#4; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:25:00 GMT
- To those who are familiar with this thread, I have a final update.
AAA grieved and then arbitrated their case against management, claiming that our union really wasn't on strike - therefore, not violating the no-strike clause of our contract. They argued that members should be paid for the days they did not show up for work and picketed with our striking sister union...uhm cause they weren't on strike. (Still scratching my head over that logic.) They argued that the no-strike clause language in our contract does not bar "sympathy strikes".
As a side note, management used the very letter that our AAA president wrote to the four of us who disagreed with leadership's contention that this was a legal action, to support its claims of contract violation. (The four of us had requested Personal leave as soon as the strike date was chosen. The only day we came in that week was the first day of the strike. Leadership left voicemail messages on our cellphones Sunday evening that we were not to go in to work on Monday. Some of us didn't even read this message until after the fact.)
The arbitrator used The Taft-Hartley Act to actually define a 'strike'.
"The term 'strike' includes and strike or other concerted stoppage of work by employees (including a stoppage by reason of the end of a collective-bargaining agreement) and any concerted slowdown or other concerted interruption of operations by employees."
The arbitrator's award finds that AAA on this basis did, in fact, 'strike' based upon the AAA's language in its letter of discipline to the four of us.
Ultimately, based on this and other AAA contradictory factors. The arbitrator's award called for AAA's grievance to be denied.
Thanks again to those who have offered input and to those have followed this thread.#5; Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:27:00 GMT
- You know, it helped immensely that you outlined the possible violations. With no rhetorical "except"-type jargon, it is quite clear that my union violated at least two of the Labor Union's Conduct points:
>Engaging in picket line misconduct, such as threatening, assaulting, or barring non-strikers from the employer's premises.
>Striking over issues unrelated to employment terms and conditions or coercively enmeshing neutrals into a labor dispute.
The NLRB has been helpful in the past. We've collected evidence on each of the charges, and have witnesses as well. Our concern is how do we charge the ring-leaders without injury to the entire Association? That is where the line becomes blurry, and we must decide if or when to move forward.
Thanks, so much, for your clarifications!
ps - love your quote.#6; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:12:00 GMT
- A probable final chapter in the saga of many viewpoints.
The NLRB accepted our case and charges were filed against AAA for discipline without investigation, hearing, or cause.
Subsequently, AAA sent us a letter (aglow with language that would make a sailor blush) rescinding the discipline for reasons that defy logic, but made them look like they (the Exec Cmte) were somehow robbed of some pseudo-dignity.
We withdrew the charges with NLRB and now are just waiting for the dust to settle.
While the letters we received from NNN and AAA were just plain vile and nasty, they weren't illegal. ... Sticks and Stones.
The wheels of justice turn. Not always at the pace we'd like, or in the fashion we would have chosen. But, we were ultimately right in all of our findings in this situation. AAA had to admit it, and we are just okay with that.
Thanks to all who have followed this post.#7; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:37:00 GMT
- The NNN Exec Cmte (Parent Union) will be holding their session in a few days. At which, AAA's (my local) President will be presenting a one-sided argument in an effort to coerce the NNN to provide a hearings officer. The four of us standing up to them feel that this would be a conflict of interest, since NNN's attorney has been advising our president throughout the previous events we believe that NNN would not be able to provide a neutral hearings officer on that basis. Currently, we have been advised that our discipline is in 'abeyance' until after the hearing. (What the heck does that mean?)
Do we hold tight, quietly keep a stiff upper lip, and wait for NNN to make the right decision? Or do we advise the NNN of our concern prior to their session, so they know our stance?
It's always a crap shoot hoping that someone will do the right thing.
Thanks#8; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:19:00 GMT
- This question is somewhat difficult to word, but here goes -
The AAA's union leadership has stated that they were following the advice of our parent union's (NNN) attorney with regard to the afformentioned proceedings.
The NNN's president has formally declined to get the NNN involved any further in this our union leaders' mess.
My question is this - If NNN's counsel was giving advice contrary to the findings of NNN's president, wouldn't the NNN be accountable in any manner, either to one side or the other? Can they just extract themselves with no consequences whatsoever?#9; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:08:00 GMT
- FYI - The above letter was sent to 4 of us and cc:d out to all of our membership.
November 26, 2008
On November 24, 2008, I received your letter dated November 17, 2008 regarding the proposed Executive Committees disciplinary action concerning the alleged offenses and slanderous accusations made against my person in malice. I formally request that the AAA Executive Committee rescind the proposed disciplinary action and discontinue their malicious assault on my professional reputation.
This letter will also serve as my request to appeal the proposed sanctions found within the November 17, 2008 letter.
You and the Executive Committee have maliciously violated my LMRDA rights.
You and the Executive Committee have placed AAA in violation of both State and Federal Labor laws.
You and the Executive Committee have maliciously failed to formally charge me with any violation before imposing sanctions, which is a violation of my rights against improper discipline.
By sanctioning me before formally charging me, and before a hearing was held to determine the facts of the case, you and the Executive Committee have maliciously violated the LMDRA, and the NNN Constitution and Bylaws.
I believed and still do, that AAA leadership has given poor advice to the membership. Given my personal history with AAA leadership regarding affairs affecting my employment and after carefully considering the action proposed by AAA leadership in regards to the PPP strike, I did not feel compelled to agree with the legality of the actions recommended by the AAA Leadership. This is a clear case of discriminatory behavior and the basis for my feeling that AAA leadership is treating me with malice. I feel that we are not working together as a union as is self apparent by the proposed disciplinary action requiring this letter. I believe I have done nothing wrong. I am being sanctioned for disagreeing with my AAA leadership. In exercising my basic rights as a union member, I have questioned what I believe to be harmful to the union. I am interested in protecting the union, AAA, and my employment. The questioning of bad practices does not constitute nonsupport.
It is also worth noting that the recommended action that I am being sanctioned for not following was, in fact, found to be a violation of the contract, as well as a violation of an OOO directive. This was the basis for my dissention. So once again, I am being sanctioned for being correct in my interpretation of the contract.
You should note that my timesheets reflect that I took three personal leave days during the first week of the strike, contrary to the misinformation you charged in your letter. After the August AAA meeting I took it upon myself to secure time off prior to the directive being handed down.
I would also direct your attention to the content of the following email you sent out on 9/11/08:
"Subject: Reminder
As we stated in our August staff meeting. If PPP goes out on strike and AAA members have to cross the picket line they will be provided with a picket pass by PPP. PPP has NO INTENTION OF HARMING THEIR AAA SISTERS. They have been instructed to have passes ready for everyone of you at HQ. They are very aware of the difficult situation that we are all in.
We will have much more information for you at our meeting on Saturday.
Keep calm and hang in there! Were all in this together!
Please call us if you need us!"
This in mind, a picket pass was issued to me by * (PPP). This was used on the single day I came into work that week, per your above statement.
Based on the facts I have laid out above, I am requesting that all proposed penalties and actions be rescinded immediately. Should AAA Leadership choose to continue with the proposed penalties, I am requesting the rights and accommodations afforded as an active, dues paying member in good standing.
This letter serves as my request for a hearing on the charges and allegations outlined in the letter I received from you dated November 17, 2008. As such, I request that the following information, including, but not limited to, be provided immediately:
1)The approved, official minutes of the August 12, 2008 AAA Union Meeting.
2)The approved, official minutes of the September 13, 2008 AAA Informational Meeting.
3)The sworn written testimony of those accusing me of rumor mongering.
4)The sworn written testimony of those managers I allegedly colluded with.
5)The sworn written testimony of witnesses who were present when the alleged collusion occurred.
6)The specific alleged conduct, apart from disagreeing with AAA leadership and subsequently proven inaccurate AAA leadership opinion, that stands contrary to the good and welfare of the AAA.
7)The Mutual Aid Pact documentation with PPP.
8)Specific contract language cited proving the alleged violation(s).
9)Specific AAA constitution and bylaws language proving the alleged violation(s).
10)Specific case law in support of your position.
11)Specific Federal and State laws violated.
Per the NNN Constitution and Bylaws and the NNN Procedures for Conducting a Hearing Pursuant to Article XIII of the NSO Constitution, there are certain rights I am guaranteed as a union member. These include the right to face and confront my accuser; the right to receive written charges. These charges shall be specific, citing in detail the nature, the date, and the circumstances of the alleged offense, along with the specific act or failure to act which constitutes the alleged violation. No where in the letter have these basic requirements been met.
And as listed under the obligations of the charging person(s) subsection (7), The person bringing the charges shall be under the following obligations:
a)To file the original charge in sufficient detail as to afford the accused person full opportunity to prepare a defense.
b)To appear in person at the trial.
c)To assume the burden of proof.
Additionally, you have fifteen (15) days to respond to this letter. Upon receipt of your letter, a written answer will be made to the charge(s) within (15) days.
As a member of NNN, I am entitled to full representation by NNN and an advocate of my choosing from AAA.
I caution you and the Executive Committee to carefully consider your libelous and malicious actions. You have the opportunity to rescind this ridiculous and illegal sanction before we waste AAAs time and money, and NNNs time and money. I have no grievance with the membership or NNN, only an interest in protecting the union and my employment.
Regards,#10; Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:33:00 GMT
- As a result of our refusal to support the un-sanctioned strike of a different union, our union executive committee has handed down the following discipline:
"""At the August 12, 2008 AAA union meeting, the quorum of membership in attendance conducted an
informal vote by show of hands and unanimously agreed that we would use all three of our
personal leave days, if necessary, to stand together and honor PPP's picket line should they go on
strike. (The first vote was not unanimous, and in the second vote we agreed to 1 day of personal leave.
Which was voided by managements directive that no personal leave would be granted. The executive
committee later advised membership to take 2 days of unpaid leave and join the picket line.)On September 13, 2008, AAA members again met and heard a presentation by Washington EAAA Board member, attorney **, to review the PPP bargaining crisis and discuss our options
under the law should they go on strike the following Monday. After much discussion, and with an
actual quorum present, the AAA members in attendance again unanimously voted to honor PPP's picket line and use all three of our personal leave days even though management had instructed us that leave would not be available. (We were told that this was an informational meeting only. We were not advised that there would be a vote involved.)
On September 14 the AAA Executive Board notified each and every AAA member that the
membership would be taking Monday, September 15, as a personal leave day to honor PPP's picket line. On Wednesday, September 17, 2008, select OOO locations were also picketed by AAA members
who, again, attempted to use personal leave to cover that absence.
You chose to cross the PPP picket line and report to work in defiance of the AAA membership vote.
Your actions not only violated our mutual aid pact (there is no such pact) with the PPP, which like AAA, is affiliated with the National Staff Organization, but it was a direct affront to two confirmed, unanimous votes by a
majority of the membership. In doing so, you ignored the commitment made by an overwhelming
majority of the AAA membership, and selfishly chose to defy the concerted actions of your co-
The Executive Committee, on behalf of the AAA membership, would remind you that this is a
"union" where our strength as an organization arises with our acting together by giving mutual aid
and comfort. There is no justification for individual action unless extraordinary circumstances exist,
contact is made with the Executive Committee, and a prior excuse obtained. If a commitment of the
majority to certain action is made, we are all expected to honor it together, without exception.
Independent departures from the will of the majority in a crisis cannot be tolerated otherwise the
union is undermined internally, and will cease to function effectively if such individual actions
Because you have blatantly disregarded the considered, collected decision of the AAA membership, violated basic union principles, and given the appearance of collusion with management in
performing bargaining unit work during your colleagues' engaging in concerted activities in
support of PPP, the Executive Committee has concluded that you-have engaged in conduct that stands contrary to the good and welfare of the AAA.
The Executive Committee is therefore imposing the following disciplinary action concerning these offenses:
1.You will not be eligible to be a candidate for, hold any elected office nor serve on any
AAA committee through August 2009.
You are also hereby warned that any future incidents of this nature will be grounds for further
disciplinary action up to and including loss of membership, and possible imposition of fines.
Additionally, spreading rumors or other unsubstantiated speculation about AAA's interactions with PPP and NSO to others is also unacceptable conduct. The appropriate forum for such discussion is at union meetings, or by asking questions of Executive Committee members for the purpose of
learning an accurate version of those interactions. Continued rumor mongering intended to reflect negatively upon the AAA with management and others outside the union will not be tolerated, and could lead to additional disciplinary action by the Executive Committee.
You will have an opportunity to address the Executive Committee at its next regular meeting to
discuss the foregoing if you believe there are extenuating circumstances that justify your crossing the picket line. Please contact the President in writing to request an appearance no later than ten
(10) calendar days after receiving this letter, and provide a summary of your reasons that you wish
to present for consideration.
We have attached the NSO Constitution and Bylaws and the NSO Procedures for Conducting a
Hearing Pursuant to Article {III of the NSO Constitution. These outline your rights to be heard on the discipline imposed.
On behalf of the AAA Executive Committee,"""
*Also, we have contacted the NLRB and the State Labor Commission and have completed the "complaint" paperwork. We are seeking an attorney to help with this. If anyone can help with this endeavor, or offer advice - we're all ears (and eyes).*
Many Thanks!#11; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:49:00 GMT
- We meet with an attorney tonight.
Still welcome any insight, snarky remarks, comments (even from those who cleverly avoid actually reading the posts...). Wish us luck - and thanks, again!#12; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:22:00 GMT
- Thank you - I have printed off the "Member Rights" article of the NLRB. But, not being an attorney, it might be easy to misinterpret some of the language. And, I'm certain, much of what my union may or may not do in retaliation to its members might rest within its individual bylaws and constitution.
It just concerns me that my union has employed the very tactics that give "union" a bad name.
Thanks Again.#13; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:35:00 GMT


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Before all this pro fit, computerised, stuff started?
How'd you fit yerself, and how'd it turn out?
I guarantee you that there were gurus out there who could help with fit issues back in the day. I myself can fit anything in the area of a 56 without much effort, so I don't concern myself much with that. I like riding crit/roadrace bikes, and have a surgically repaired ACL. I am probably a little on the insensitive side of fit issues. You are riding a 48 lb upright bike. My guess is you will be just fine getting the fit set up yourself. Unless you are on the very sensitive side of fit issues.
I rode a bike that was too big for me, but I managed to ride it for 30+ years and have fun. I know now that my current smaller bike is much more comfortable, and even more fun.
I've never been fitted for a bike, since I've been riding only used and salvaged bikes. I just go by initial stand-over height, then play around with the seat, stem, and bars until I like the ride. Takes a bit of trial and fuss, but it all works out.
Isn't that likely what they did in the old days? Anyway, I'm not convinced that the tech stuff is much more than a gimmick, since it all comes down to how the bike feels to the person being fitted, and there's no real science for that.
I'd still like to get fitted the fancy way, though, just out of curiosity.
We put people on bikes, and talked to them about how they felt on one size frame or another .
swapping stems took longer, because you had to remove the bar tape and such.
once you were in the USCF, dues paying aspiring racer, at sanctioned races ,
coaches with 'some expertise' were available.
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In the Old days? well bikes tended to have straight flat top tubes. The standard fit was standover height. If you could straddle the top tube with one or two inches to spare then you were good to go. You could move the saddle forward a bit and I understand they could put on a shorter quill stem if necessary but normally that wasn't necessary.
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By those standards, everybody in America is riding a bike that's too small. But it still works for me.
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Right now, I am showing a fistfull of seatpost with about 1 inch of crotch clearance. I am fine at stops straddling the bike.
My main thing is figuring our saddle fore/aft and then reach. Having a hard time figuring out what is "right". Confused by all the methods there are these days.
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Nitto Noodle drop bar. Technomic quill stem with 9cm extension.
Traditional diamond looking frame.
I have the bars a little higher than the saddle now, with flat ramps. I like being more upright after the years of race geometry bike I had.
I do commuting and recreational road rides. Not racing, just friendly metric century rides, 40 milers, etc. For fun, not speed.
I know my seat height, but need to know how to do fore/aft of saddle. I will work out the reach for comfort after.
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good fit , lengthways, seems that if I look straight down the steering axis,
while riding, and its all good.
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Fits? Screaming and crying seldom worked. Making sure your parents knew you'd talked to Santa about a bike worked best.
That which does not kill me has made a massive tactical blunder.
Too often I would hear men boast of the miles covered that day, rarely of what they had seen. Louis L'Amour
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Dad brings the bike home. Puts you on it and with the seat all the way down your feet barely reach the pedals. "Don't worry. You'll grow into it."
We have met the enemy and they is us.
I was lucky to escape the '70s before I tuned 7. My grandparents bought me a 20" wheel bike, then my other grandpa got me a cool banana bike he had painted metallic green, and theese bikes fit as well as I could hope.
But when I started riding road bike sin the mid/late 80s, the geometry was pretty simple, as mentioned above, and the LBS employees helped me select a size that was a reasonable fit.
The oft repeated advice to 'get fitted' on this forum is usually given to people who don't already know what they want, or are buying used (and thus cannot rely on the help of a LBS, most of who, believe it or not, get it right more often than they get it wrong). Or have already purchased a bike and have begun (or someone else has begun) making random changes to it to improve the fit.
When I started taking cycling more seriously in 1990, I went to this place ... maybe you've heard of them, many towns have them ... called a "library". Libraries contain shelves and shelves of books. Sometimes a few of those books contain information about bicycles and cycling.
In my case, my local library had 5 books on bicycles and cycling. I took all of them out, and read them from cover to cover.
One of them had some advice about how to set up a bicycle. So I stood my bicycle (which I discovered was way too big for me) in the kitchen, and referring to the book, with measuring tape and plumb bobs in hand, I measured everything, and adjusted this, and adjusted that ... and set the bicycle up as comfortably as possible for me.


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After uniting on The Voice to perform the song, her is the studio track of Lady Gaga and Christina Aguilera's version of Gaga's hit, "Do What U Want."
Wow! Never in a million years would I have though this would happen!
Two powerhouses on the track. Christina did that! Or should I say Xtina? Should this have been the first version released or did Lady Gaga doing a song with R. Kelly build more buzz?
As much as I like that Xtina is on the track, Lady Gaga is trying to pull out all the stops with this song and is running it into the ground. Hopefully after this she just lets it go. I don't see much else she can do.


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...according to Gene Menez of SI.com. He lists Ndamukong Suh of Nebraska second, Jordan Shipley of Texas third, Colt McCoy of Texas ninth, and Todd Reesing of Kansas tenth.
Jimmy Clausen, Jordan Shipley lead shaken-up Heisman Watch - Gene Menez - SI.com
Remember the good ol' days when no one really started talking about the Heisman until this part of the season anyway. This season is exactly why people should not even mention the Heisman until about now. At the beginning of the year people were ready to give it to McCoy, Bradford, or Tebow. McCoy and Tebow have been less than spectacular, but they had such a huge head start it will be tough for anyone to catch them.
I know that his injury slowed him down, but when is Arob going to start feeling the love.
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I know that his injury slowed him down, but when is Arob going to start feeling the love.
When we start winning some games....
If we are less than .500 this season he will need to have 200+ yards a game for the remainder of the year to be mentioned merely as a "candidate." Even then, remember Troy Davis?
If ARob stays healthy next year, I think he'll get some love.
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I know that his injury slowed him down, but when is Arob going to start feeling the love.
From the Heisman perspective, it would have really helped his cause to run some more during the Iowa game. Probably would have helped the "winning the game" cause too...
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Holographic gaming may not be here yet, but for Nintendo, they're the next company out of the gate to embrace the 3D revolution.
And with 3DTVs getting some consumers attention, Nintendo is hoping to take a bite of that pie with the 3DS. And perhaps even point out what's wrong in the 3DTV side and hint at what's to come in the future.
"As you can see, it has two screens and the upper screen has 3.5 inch widescreen display and shows full 3D without the need for special glasses," says Satoru Iwata, president of Nintendo.
The specs are official; it will have two camera lenses so pictures can be taken in 3D, a slider to determine the depth, two differently sized screens, an analog-stick style slide pad, motion sensor, touch screen, d-pad and gyro sensor.
Best of all, it's backwards compatible with the DSI.
"Because 3DS is a successor to the DS, it naturally comes with a touch screen," boasts Iwata.
He continues to expound on the graphics capability of the DS. "Something tells me this alone might cause some excitement amongst the development community," adds Iwata.
For Nintendo US president Reggie Fils-Aime, he's just glad there's no need for glasses.
"Nobody said it was going to be easy – no one but Nintendo. We think there is a better way, with ample game content first day on the market." finishes Fils-Aime.
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A Florida House committee took the first step toward revamping the state's claims bills over the objections of cities, counties, public hospitals and other "sovereign" entities.
But House Select Committee on Claims Bills Chairman James Grant, R-Tampa, called Florida's claims bill process a broken system that encourages local governments not to settle with victims because of the time, expense and uncertainty of getting a settlement passed even if the local governments agree to pay it.
The committee grudgingly approved the proposal with a 5-3 vote after a contentious debate in which no one from the audience spoke in favor of the plan. Both Republicans and Democrats who supported the measure said they had serious reservations about its impact on local governments.
The measure would raise the current $200,000 per individual cap to $1 million and $300,000 per incident cap to $1.5 million to encourage local governments to purchase insurance or self-insure. The proposal also places a "hard cap" on payments for those with insurance by barring individuals who get those payments from being able to seek additional money. Claims against governments without insurance would have to be paid out of state coffers. It would also require lawyers representing claimants to register as lobbyists and require a majority of the local delegation to approve the claim at a public meeting.
Palm Beach County lobbyist Todd Bonlarron argued against raising the caps because claimants often settle as close to the current caps as possible. He said that raising the caps will likely cause future claimants to seek more money than they might have otherwise.
And, he said, the higher caps may have a negative impact on county vendors that are required to carry the same level of insurance that the county, which is self-insured, has.
Lobbyist Bob Harris, who represents a consortium of Panhandle school districts, called the claims bills "the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow" that will increase the number of claims people make against local governments.
"If you increase the size of that pot of gold, more people are going to go after that pot of gold," Harris told the committee.
Grant agreed that the new caps may encourage lawsuits.
"I also believe that the current caps discourage legitimate claims. If a child in your district is sexually abused at a school, should a cap prevent legitimate litigation and accountability of that school district?" Grant said.
The proposal "takes a very bad situation and makes it even worse," argued former state Rep. Keith Arnold, a lobbyist for Lee Memorial Healthcare System.
The Legislature last year approved the payment for Aaron Edwards, who suffers from cerebral palsy after a problematic delivery at the Fort Myers Hospital. The hospital denied responsibility for his injuries but was is now responsible for paying the claim after Gov. Rick Scott signed the bill into law. A Lee County jury had awarded Edwards's family $31 million.
The Senate does not have a similar proposal and Senate President Don Gaetz, R-Niceville, has said he would not approve any claims bills without reforms to the system.
Grant said his intention is to "try and fix a broken process."
"Everybody in this rooms has problems (with the bill)," he said. "That let's me know we're doing a good job."


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Here's one I don't see often: a job-seeking toolkit put together for customers of a company.
Fifth Third Bancorp, out of Cincinnati, has a new site out for its bank-account holders to use in finding jobs; it's the first financial institution, I believe, to launch such a site. It partnered with the outplacement company NextJob.
The toolkit includes:
- Video interviews with job search experts, job seekers, and hiring managers
- Resume and cover letter advice
- Networking tips
- Interview preparation info
- Thoughts on "developing a personal brand"
- Social media tips
Fifth Third plans says "Internet banking customers will be able to access the training for 39 weeks."


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Doors Open:10:00 PM
Show Time:10:00 PM
Depeche Mode Fanclub New York is celebrating the band's announcement of the upcoming tour and starting the countdown to the NYC shows expected in August. The night will begin with happy hour and a live performance from Mickle BLVD. Then DJ Shred and DJ shunt will be spinning Depeche Mode tracks together with DM Visuals, conceptualized by VJ Johnny_Blitz, all night long.
This is a general admission event in The Gallery at LPR.
Depeche Mode Party
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Bush may yet give bin Laden victory
Osama bin Laden, who may be dead, is getting closer to success. He has had a greater effect on our society than he could ever have imagined.
The taking of 3,000 lives in America was a means to an end for him, meant to serve the political goal of radicalizing American politics and weakening moderate regimes in the Middle East and Persian Gulf.
Initially he failed. Moderate Muslim regimes, many of them threatened by fundamentalist terrorism even more than America, rallied to our side.
The "clash of civilizations" bin Laden hoped to provoke didn't happen. Muslim nations did not rise up against the West, they rose up against bin Laden and al-Qaeda.
Real support for America came from Turkey, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt and Malaysia. Moral support came from unexpected quarters, such as Libya and Iran.
When President Bush reacted with calm and deliberation, focusing on al-Qaeda and its Taliban protectors, bin Laden's hope of radicalizing moderate Muslims was defeated.
Bush's first misstep was in stepping back from engagement in the Middle East peace process and tilting U.S. policy sharply toward Israel.
That tilt provided the first cracks in the anti al-Qaeda coalition. Saudi Arabia, a U.S. ally and forward base for U.S. troops in the Persian Gulf, denounced Bush policy toward the Palestinians as "incomprehensible." Similar observations came from Egypt, Syria and Jordan.
In the State of the Union speech last month, Muslim leaders noted that Bush made no reference to the Palestinian plight. The NATO allies noted that there was no reference to the role they were playing in Afghanistan.
These were noticeable slights for a nation purporting to be the honest mediator of Middle East peace and leader of a coalition against terrorism.
The State of the Union message also created the "axis of evil," which consisted of Iraq, Iran and North Korea and gave the war against terrorism a new look.
Where was evidence that these nations were involved in Sept. 11? Was Bush using Sept. 11 to settle old scores? What does North Korea have to do with al-Qaeda? Iran may support the Palestinians but it is an enemy of the Taliban. Observers saw the hand of Israel in Bush's speech.
The axis of evil went down badly outside America. We can shrug our shoulders at that, but the trouble is that no matter how much we militarize, we can't defeat terrorism alone.
Bin Laden doesn't win by destroying the World Trade Center. He wins by driving America into bunkered isolation. With a $400 billion defense budget, roughly equal to the rest of the world combined; and a militarized, court-martialed, missile-defended "Camp America" at home, we can try to go it alone. But will we be safer from terrorists or forever be their one and only target?
Bush gave Iran's fundamentalists – locked in a power struggle with moderates – a huge boost. Millions surged into Tehran's streets to denounce America. Foreign Minister Kamal Kharazi, who had shaken Secretary of State Colin Powell's hand weeks before, accused Bush of "wanting to control the world."
As newspaper headlines filled with Bush warnings that plans were being drawn up to attack Iraq, the Europeans weighed in. For France, the axis of evil was "simplistic." For Britain, Bush's policy had become "unilateralist." Joschka Fischer, Germany's foreign minister, asked, "throwing Iran, Iraq and North Korea into one pot, where should that lead us?"
An unnamed senior Bush official (who sounded a lot like National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice) replied, "the Europeans with butterflies in their stomachs . . . can get with the plan or get off" – not the language you expect from a coalition leader.


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Israel Post says Israeli public not oblivious to military's concerns over Assad's chemical weapons
Noam (Dabul) Dvir
Published: 01.30.13, 11:46 / Israel News
Noam (Dabul) Dvir
The defense establishment's concerns about the potential threat of chemical weapons from Syria
and Hezbollah
has not gone unnoticed by the Israeli public.
The Israel Postal Serivce reported Wednesday that more Israelis are updating their gas masks and ABC kits.
In fact, the number of Israelis changing their nonconventional warfare protection kits has nearly tripled over the past month.
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The public demand can be attributed to recent upheaval in Syria and the alarming possibility that the regime's arsenal of nonconventional weapons may find its way to Hezbollah, as was implied by IAF Chief Maj.-Gen. Amir Eshel Tuesday. "Syria is undergoing tectonic changes. Given its massive arsenals, Israel
may find itself dealing with nonconventional weapons on its borders," Eshel said.
ABC (atomic, biological, and chemical) kits have been distributed in Israel since Operation Desert Storm
in 1991, when Iraqi Scud missiles hit the greater Tel Aviv area.
The kits contain a gas mask and atropine pens, which are periodically updated according to their respective expiration dates.
According to the company, over 4,000 kits were distributed this week alone, and over 4.5 million have been picked up since the beginning of the latest distribution round.
The Postal Service said that the company's reservation line has been flooded by calls from concerned citizens and that the number of daily orders has spiked from an average of 200 a day to 500 a day.


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Just Pondering Part 8
by Renard Moreau
Although I might be talented at writing blogs, I still have my flaws. For example: when my blog was shaping up nicely, I accidentally deleted it (I didn't get angry. I simply wrote another one — this time: one pertaining to a whole different topic).
I will admit that I am a little exhausted; both mentally and physically (Errors do have a way of popping up themselves whenever we are in this state).
Besides, I am also curious to know what I am capable of doing in a lethargic state.
I will also admit, that I am capable of writing a blog of higher quality in a rested state.
In my case, experimenting is good; it lets me know what I am capable of. I have noticed that even when my mind is somewhat tired, I can write way better than most people who have slept well — strange, but true. Now, just imagine what I could write when I am well-rested? The evidence is in my blog archive.
I was also thinking: if a person really LOVE something, they can do it with ease whether they are tired or not!


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Date: December 05 2012
LABOR must embrace liberalism and open markets while keeping its commitment to egalitarianism to stymie a declining party membership, says one of the party's rising federal backbenchers.
Andrew Leigh, a former professor of economics at Australian National University and now member for the Canberra seat of Fraser, on Wednesday will give a lecture in Melbourne, saying: "The modern Liberal Party is not the party of liberalism. Instead, it is the creature of John Howard, and his intellectual heir Tony Abbott.
"That leaves social liberalism free for just one party: the ALP. It is time for Labor to grasp this mantle with both hands: becoming the party not just of egalitarianism, but also of liberalism."
Dr Leigh says since 2007, when it had 445 MPs in Australia's parliaments, Labor has lost 143 MPs. "At the same time, Labor is shedding members. In the 1950s, more than one in 100 adults were ALP members – now it is less than one in 300.
"I believe that our renewal may be found in an unlikely spot: becoming the party of egalitarianism and social liberalism. Liberalism means standing up for minority rights, and recognising that open markets are fundamental to boosting prosperity."
He says Labor has a strong history of liberalism, which underpinned reforms including broad-based income taxation under prime minister John Curtin; trade liberalisation and a floating dollar under Bob Hawke and carbon pricing and disability reform under Julia Gillard.
"Labor will always be the party of egalitarianism. But in also taking on the mantle of social liberalism, Labor would be stating our commitment to open markets as the most effective way of generating wealth . . . grounded in the reforms of Hawke and Keating – that tax cuts are preferable to middle-class welfare."
Dr Leigh says under John Howard "liberalism ceased to be the raison d'etre" of the Liberal Party when conservatism was embraced, and this has continued under Opposition Leader Tony Abbott.
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Here are our different types of mountain homesites.
Panoramic View from North Carolina Mounatin Home Site
One of the most coveted type of homesite is the View lot. These lots are typically found in only the most scenic areas of the mountain. With a westerly view, all home sites have a 70 mile + long range view with Grandfather Mountain or Table Rock Mountain as the back drop.
Johns River Frontage Home Sites for North Carolina Mountain Home
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bool IsTypeAGenericList(Type listType)
returns false when given
I assume this is because the two type parameters can be different, correct?
returns false when given
I assume this is because the two type parameters can be different, correct?
Actually, this works:
This really has to do with open constructed types.
When you say:
You're actually saying: my class is called List, it has one type parameter called T, and it implements the interface that is constructed from IList<> using the same T. So the T in the definition part and the T in the "implements" part both refer to the same type parameter -- you declare it before the colon, then you immediately reference it after the colon.
It gets confusing because
This is completely equivalent to the above, only now we can say "U" when we refer to the type parameter of List, and T when we refer to the one from IList. They're different types.
Now it gets easier to see why the generic type definition
So basically, generic type definitions never inherit or implement other generic type definitions -- they usually implement open constructed types using their own type parameters with other generic type definitions.
Ripper234's answer shows how to handle this particular case using Reflection, so I won't repeat it; I just wanted to clarify the relationship between those types, and I hope it came out at least somewhat intelligible.
I guess the method doesn't really make sense, because an instance is never of the generic type - it's always constructed with a particular type argument.
In other words, you could never have an "open" variable to assign into, nor a reference to an open instance to use as the value for the assignment.
As you say, you don't know whether the type parameters will be the same - so (for instance) you could define:
It feels like there should be some way of expressing the relationship though...
Here's the extension method from AutoMapper:


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59th Annual Hermann Invitational Tournament...
Results from Pool A
Borgia finished 6-0... more
The Cardinals continue their three-game series against the Cubs with the middle game tonight at Wrigley Field. Shelby Miller takes the mound for St. Louis. He's 10-and-9... more
Adam Wainwright and two relievers combined on a four-hit shutout as the Cardinals blanked the Cubs 8-0 in the opener of a three-game series at Wrigley Field.
The Rams are off today after reviewing film of Sunday's 34-31 loss to the Cowboys. The Rams raced out to a 21-0 lead only to see Dallas come back and drop them to 1-and-2.
Rams tight end Jared Cook is apologizing for shoving quarterback Austin Davis on the sidelines during Sunday's game against Dallas.
Ryan Whitney, Patrik Berglund and Ian Cole all scored but the Blues lost 4-3 to the Stars in Dallas. Brian Elliott and Niklas Lundstrom combined to stop just 21 of 25 shots for St.
The Cardinals open their final road trip of the season tonight in Chicago. Adam Wainwright tries for his 20th win, while the Cubs start Travis Wood. St.
Dillon Heatherington scored from the blue line midway through overtime to lift the Blue Jackets to a 4-3 win over the Blues in the preseason opener at Columbus.
The St. Louis Cardinals are into the playoffs despite a 7-2 loss to the Reds at Busch Stadium.
Coming up in local high school sports...
The 59th Annual Hermann Invitational Tournament gets underway this evening with action... more
The KLPW Radio Athlete of the Week is Sophomore Lauren Gerlemann from New Haven High School.
She was 15 years old--an accomplished student-athlete from a loving home, the kind of kid of whom it is said "she has the world going for her."
In November of 2015, her father went in to her room to discover she had taken her own life.
Back in their days, Presidents Theodore Roosevelt and William Howard Taft were known for trust-busting. In an era of price-fixing, crony capitalism and corruption their actions helped to create more opportunities in the marketplace by creating competition.


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Solgear has been manufacturing river equipment since 2001 and we currently make several products that relate to the whitewater industry whether you are using oar rafts or paddle rafts, as well as items related to river rescue. In addition we offer gear and tote bags in different sizes that are useful in almost any water sport, along with precise custom-made bags to fit your specific need.
Solgear was started by owner Scott Solle who began his guiding career in Moab, UT on the Colorado River in 1995. Having a passion in river running led to guiding on the Rio Grande and then north to Alaska. It was while in Alaska, guiding on the Nenana River, that Scott's interest in rescue work began. A course in Swiftwater Rescue Instruction led to a decade of work teaching for The Rescue Company and Rescue 3 International. Currently Scott is managing the river operations for Canyon Voyages Adventure Company back in Moab, UT. Canyon Voyages offers half day to four day trips for SUP, Recreation Kayaking, Inflatable Kayaking, and rafting on the Colorado and Green Rivers. Canyon Voyages also offers a full line of river equipment for rent and for sale. Visit Canyon Voyages to find one of the only retail locations for Solgear merchandise.
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The Platonic Road Fork – Part I
March 15, 2010 by The Genius
Filed under Dating & Relationships, Genius Theories
It's been a while since I've shared one of my theories with you all, so I'm more than happy to share the newest installment of the Genius Theories. As with every Genius Theory, I gotta give you the background first.
The Background
This story starts off with a friend whom we will call Lyle, because it sounds funny. During a water break at the gym, my friend Lyle began to retell his Valentine's Day disaster story from this passed month. Two months back, at a friend's party, Lyle met a very very attractive Pretty Lady. Lyle and Pretty Lady struck up a conversation and seemed to hit it off, eventually exchanging phone numbers. Thus began a long string of hour-and-a-half long phone conversations.
The Platonic Road Fork – Part II
March 15, 2010 by The Genius
Filed under Dating & Relationships, Genius Theories
…continued from: The Platonic Road Fork – Part I
Before I started explaining the situation to my friend, I paused. Just to make sure I wasn't jumping the gun, I asked a few questions first because Lyle's story sounded like there was much that he conveniently left out. I asked him a few questions and these are some of the things I uncovered:
- Since the very beginning of the relationship, Lyle speaks with her a few times a day, just about everyday.
- Lyle has thrice taken Pretty Lady out on extravagant dinners and outings.
- Every time Lyle makes a flirtatious comment to Pretty Lady, she tells him to stop or that it makes her uncomfortable.
- Lyle buys Pretty Lady "Just Because" presents for no reason such as appliances, home decor, etc.
- Lyle gets jealous when he's around guys that she is dating or brings them up in conversation.
- Pretty Lady could care less who Lyle dates and sometimes encourages him in his relationships.
The truth is that Lyle has no chance. Like none. But what is worse is that he's doing everything wrong.
Rapper or Republican?
August 8, 2008 by The Gentleman
Filed under Editorials, Genius Theories
"It ain't hard to tell… " or is it?
My best friend was perusing a gaming magazine recently and noticed a short blurb on a new video game coming out… you ready?…wait for it…wait for it… 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand. Oh! I kid you not. Essentially 50 Cent murdering mofos in the Middle East. Now I will give Vivendi the benefit of the doubt that the premise (and it's proclivity to alliteration) is pure happenstance but one can't help but wonder… Read more
My Problem w/ Interracial Dating
July 24, 2008 by The Genius
Filed under Dating & Relationships, Genius Theories
I have a problem w/ interracial dating, but it's not for the reasons you think. I'm gonna just jump right into this so buckle up sistas. I'm a 26 yr old black man with two degrees and a well-paying job. No, I'm not bragging, but this will become relevant later. I'm not against interracial relationships, I just have problems with what seems to be a growing percentage of them….and it's you boo.
The Myth of the 50/50
June 15, 2008 by The Genius
Filed under Dating & Relationships, Genius Theories
Yes. It's a myth. I'm sorry if I just ruined your day. But before I proceed with this installment of Genius Theory, as always, I have to give the backstory. Long story short, I got into a discussion with a female cohort of mine who was upset that her relationship always seemed weighted. Read more
The Interview Process
May 12, 2008 by The Genius
Filed under Dating & Relationships, Genius Theories
Let me first say that I'm getting really tired of the fact that every time I talk to one of my very good girlfriends, the conversation seems to always stray off into why no one wants them, or how they're lonely, or how these guys are ___________.
No one's provided me w/ any information as to why this is, and although there are theories, nothing concrete. As a result, I have to just assume that when you're a female and 22-25 yrs old, your own personal worth is determined by the success (or lack) of your significant other, and if you're one of those hags unlucky enough to NOT have a man, then you might as well just sew it up now and join a convent. Read more


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Business Case for Diversity, My Foot
May 27, 2016
Training has been thought of as HR's great protector. It is commonly believed that if you train your employees, the company is safe from lawsuits. But if training is ineffective, the company may find itself in trouble. Even correct training doesn't completely safeguard a company from legal peril. Paul Salvatore, an employment-law attorney at the New York City office of Proskauer Rose, tells HR how to best protect against lawsuits in the training arena.
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