text: [[quoteright:300:[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/2c417fa62caf3a6bee1baa2a21fc81c2.png]]]][[caption-width-right:300:[[Franchise/FinalFantasy Giant yellow birds]] are the mount of choice for the spiky-haired RPG hero on the go.]]->''"Good bird-horse-thingy."''-->-- '''Sokka''', ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''Evolution being what it is, alien worlds (or Earth time periods far removed from the present day) are bound to have different forms of animal life from our world. The people there, however, are usually [[HumanAliens just like us]], or [[RubberForeheadAliens close]], and would therefore develop different breeds of livestock to fill the same needs.And one of those major needs is for animals that fill the niches that horses fill on Earth: basic transportation in areas where mechanical transport is impractical, unknown, or expensive; or prestige transportation in areas where mechanical transport is cheap and easy. Horse-replacements may also be used as draft animals.Of the types of creatures available, large flightless birds are probably the single most-common type of horse-replacement. Two-legged fast dinosaurs come up frequently. To replace the larger draft animals, vaguely ox-like creatures and large lizards seem to be popular, and some may be MixAndMatchCritters.Evil, bloodthirsty races will often use a giant form of a common predator, like a wolf. Cats are a mixed bag; they are predatory, and notoriously disobedient, but both heroes and villains can be seen riding them, and performing great feats of sure-footed trick riding.[[GiantFlyer A flying creature that can be trained, and can carry a man]], is truly the holy grail of animal husbandry. Most fantasy settings have at least one, either a scaled-up version of a currently existing creature or something from prehistory or mythology. [[OurDragonsAreDifferent Dragons]] are [[DragonRider especially popular]] in this department as are [[OurGryphonsAreDifferent Gryphons]] and [[{{Pegasus}} Pegasi]].For ''maximum'' SpeculativeFiction cred, try having the mount not even being [[MechanicalHorse made of flesh and blood]]. In video games, these often become a PowerupMount.Named for a pun in ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'', although that was an actual horse that, as the name suggests, kept randomly changing color.Compare CallARabbitASmeerp, when the animal actually is, for all intents and purposes, identical to a real-world animal. SuperTrope of KangarooPouchRide and SeahorseSteed, and sometimes DomesticatedDinosaurs. For actual horses (or other animals) with unusual colors, see AmazingTechnicolorWildlife.Nothing to do with the album of the same name by the country group Big and Rich.----!!Examples[[foldercontrol]]!!Flightless Birds and Other Bipeds[[folder:Anime and Manga]]* ''Anime/LastExile'' has some very chocobo-esque flightless birds. Although they were never used as mounts they replaced horses as the animal of choice for racing.* In ''Anime/MazeMegaburstSpace'', a two-legged brown dinosaur is the preferred cavalry mount.* Horseclaws are giant flightless birds used as rides in ''Manga/NausicaaOfTheValleyOfTheWind'' (and inspired the above-mentioned chocobos). Nausicaa also features another type of unusual mount, referred to as Warbeasts, which are something like giant, shaggy dogs with cow horns and lizard-like feet.* What look like giant ducklings are used as mounts in ''Manga/OnePiece's'' Kingdom of Alabasta.* ''Anime/PanzerWorldGalient'': In the world of Arst, people rides horned, bipedal critters that look like a wingless bird mixed with a dinosaur.* In ''Anime/SamuraiSeven'', some people ride around on giant turtle-like creatures. With shells.* ''Anime/{{Trigun}}'' has the Tomas, weird cross-breeds between ostriches and non-avian dinosaurs.* ''Anime/{{Gungrave}}'' also has the Tomas, which, while not featured as a primary mount, are used instead of horses for racing purposes. Mostly just a MythologyGag owing to Yasuhiro Nightow creating both series. * ''Anime/YuGiOh'': In Kaiba's in-universe virtual reality video game, the characters ride Niwatori (giant flightless birds), which some of the characters call giant chickens. [[/folder]][[folder:Comic Books]]* In DC comics the Atomic Knights of Earth 17 ride on giant dog creatures. The Atomic Knights also show up in ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis'' riding these dogs into Bludhaven.* In some versions of Franchise/WonderWoman's home of Paradise Island, Amazons ride kangas (giant riding kangaroos)* ''ComicBook/StrontiumDog'' has morks.[[/folder]][[folder:Films -- Animated]]* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Rango}}'', they ride non-sentient birds. [[FurryConfusion The film also has a sentient hawk.]]* The Leafmen in ''WesternAnimation/{{Epic}}'' ride hummingbirds into battle, while the [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Boggins]] prefer CreepyCrows because they are more tolerant of decay. They also can ride on [[BatOutOfHell bats]] due to their leader's [[TheBeastmaster ability to imitate the cry that bats use to locate others of their own kind.]] However, the bats aren't actually loyal to the Boggins; in one scene, a Leafman knocks a Boggin off his bat and takes the reins, and the bat has no complaints. Birds such as sparrows are considered inferior to hummingbirds, and are generally used only for racing.[[/folder]][[folder:Films -- Live-Action]]* ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' takes it to a LiteralMetaphor, as the Gatekeeper states that the purple horse is "a horse of a different color!"* Ostriches were ridden in ''Literature/TheSwissFamilyRobinson.'' (TruthInTelevision: Ostrich jockeys have races in Arizona every year.)* ''Franchise/StarWars'': Tauntauns, a bipedal mammal, are the mount of choice on the ice planet Hoth.[[/folder]][[folder:Literature]]* Flinx in ''[[Creator/AlanDeanFoster For Love Of Mother-Not]]'' rides a stupava riding bird through the soggy forests of Moth, where its partially webbed feet come in handy for the muddy terrain.* The [[Literature/GauntsGhosts Gaunt's Ghosts novels]] had birds called Struthids used as cavalry on one of the planets; the general description made them look like the bastard child of cassowaries.* Horses ''do'' exist in Creator/TerryPratchett's Literature/{{Discworld}}, so when some Mad Max-style raiders trying to get at Mad the dwarf's water supplies show up in ''The Last Continent'' riding and/or being pulled by a variety of things that are very notably not horses (including an emu, as described by someone who has never heard of such a thing), it's mostly to illustrate how utterly insane Fourecks is.* The Rudewood's hotchi in Main/ChinaMieville's ''Literature/IronCouncil'' ride oversized chickens. They also use these oversized, highly aggressive roosters in gladitorial cockfights.* The Seanchan of ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'' series have, among other things (see other sections), ''corlm'', creatures like large ostriches with brown fur instead of feathers, although these are used mainly for hunting rather than as mounts.* In the last book of the ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' the K'Chain Che'Malle -- bipedal, sentient HiveMind-inclined dinosaurs -- serve as mounts for their human allies. They are even capable of changing their physique to better accomodate their human riders, e.g. by creating a saddle out of their own flesh.[[/folder]][[folder:Live-Action TV]]* The Series/BakuryuuSentaiAbaranger used velociraptors as steeds. So did their counterparts the Series/PowerRangersDinoThunder, though less often since they had motorcycles that weren't murder on the CGI budget.[[/folder]][[folder:MMORPGs]]* In ''VideoGame/RagnarokOnline'', the standard animal of monture are giant birds called Pecos, not unlike Chocobos. They are limited on use to one class job, however (even if the things are also in the wild and can be captured as mascots). Although with third jobs, Wargs, Griffons and the dragon-like Ferus are now both also fair game.* Blood Elves in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' ride flightless, vaguely ostrich-like birds called Hawkstriders. Often [[FanNickName referred to as Chocobos]] by fans.** Gnomes get ''robotic'' ostriches called Mechanostriders.** Every race but the humans have their own kind of non-horse mount (except maybe the Forsaken, who use undead horses), and new factions have frequently introduced new types, not to mention all the flying mounts. Interestingly enough though, all class-specific mounts are horses or rather look like horses but largely have otherworldly origins, being more explicitly summoned by respective spells (Dread Knight mounts are undead, Paladin mounts divine spirits, Warlock mounts [[HellishHorse demonic]]).* Tauntauns can be acquired as a mount in VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic.* In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsOnline'', guar (a large reptilian creature used as pack animals and cattle) and senche-tigers (a variety of tiger) can be obtained as mounts, in addition to horses.* In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'', naturally, your first mount is the series staple chocobo, which can also be trained to fight at your side as a Companion. The ''Heavensward'' expansion added flying chocobos (as in other games in the series, they are black), but also allows your companion chocobo to learn how to fly. In this setting, chocobos of any color apparently aren't flightless by strict definition, they just aren't living in environments where its necessary for survival.[[/folder]][[folder:Tabletop Games]]* Striders - similar to riding birds, but scaly and butt-ugly - are used as mounts by the Kang of ''TabletopGame/{{Talislanta}}'', and their smaller, feistier cousins, marsh striders, by the Jhangarans.* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' Dark Elves and Lizardmen ride theropod-like creatures known as Cold Ones.* Halflings in ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' {{Eberron}} campaign setting ride two kinds of bipedal dinosaurs, called fastieths and clawfoots. [[note]] Fastieths are basically ornithomimids. Clawfoots are ''velociraptors''.[[/note]]* "Axebeaks" (''Phorusrhacos'', more or less) have featured in several editions of ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''. (''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'' seems to have shrugged and openly presented them essentially as predatory chocobos.) White Wolf's ''TabletopGame/ScarredLands'' setting had "tent birds," a desert-dwelling variant with supernaturally heat-resistant feathers that could use its huge—albeit still flightless—wings [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin to shelter itself and its hatchlings (or its rider)]].* In ''TabletopGame/RocketAge'' Bahmoots, velociraptor-like reptiles, are used as beasts of burden on Mars, while the Silthuri use a three and a half metre tall bird called the Royal Karn to pull their chariots. Fanthir are feathered lizards which run on two legs and are used as mounts by the Venusians.[[/folder]][[folder:Toys]]* Rock steeds in ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' are bipedal dinosaur-relatives ridden by desert bandits. For some reason, however, the movie ''The Legend Reborn'' had them acting exactly like actual horses.[[/folder]][[folder:Video Games]]* The various world-settings in the ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' series use a type of giant bird called a Chocobo as a riding mount. Some variations of them can fly (usually black), though most of them are ground-based. Travelling on one moves faster than just walking, and usually [[EncounterRepellant avoids running into random encounters]] while riding one. ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' also includes chocobos that can run over water, oceans, and mountains, but you have to breed them first. ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'' has chocobos with similar capabilities, the catch being that it's actually all just one chocobo that you can keep upgrading throughout the game. You can eventually have it gain all of the capabilities of the gold chocobo from ''VII'' and if you boost it to the max, it can even fly* ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'': Yoshi, to the point of being referred to as such (though in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg8mDRAngZ0 a rather derogatory fashion]]) by the popular {{Lets Play}}er, LetsPlay/{{raocow}}.* Early in ''RogueGalaxy'', the hero is seen riding a sort of skeletal mount called a Yago. Apparently they must have some meat on them because a sand worm eats one at the end of the first chapter.* Strangely, the Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Doduo and Dodrio -- based off of ostriches -- can learn Fly in the games. The anime makes a clever justification when Falkner's Dodrio makes a leap that makes it look like it ''is'' flying, though the birds are usually ridden as land mounts when seen. Though ''WebComic/AwkwardZombie'' suggests [[HeliCritter a different way]] that [[http://www.awkwardzombie.com/index.php?comic=030711 they could fly]].** The character Yellow of the ''PokemonSpecial'' manga is fourteen years old, but she is small enough to ride Dodrio's unevolved (juvenile) form, Doduo.* There are undead units in ''VideoGame/BattleForWesnoth'' which ride skeletal 'chocobones' which are a clear parody of the Final Fantasy birds.* Abe in ''VideoGame/{{Oddworld}}: Abe's Oddyssey'' can ride a strange, UglyCute creature named Elum in certain areas. The manual describes him as "Cranky, stubborn, and smells like a burst sewer pipe, and those are his good points. Fortunately, chicks dig him."* The first ''VideoGame/JakAndDaxter'' has the Flut Flut, a tropical bird that Jak rides on in certain levels. However, its flightlessness is due to the fact that it's a baby, so it's fair to assume that a full grown Flut Flut would be more of a GiantFlyer. ''VideoGame/Jak3Wastelander'', meanwhile, has the Leaper Lizard, which despite being a dinosaur/dragon-like creature is, well... A Flut Flut of a different colour in essence.* The ''Cralluck'' in Franchise/StarTrek RPG materials; an Acamarian flightless bird.* Giant mantises take the place of horses in ''VideoGame/TelepathTactics'', probably as a nod to the setting's tropical climate. A CoolOldLady says she's had hers since she first joined the army, which implies they have roughly human lifespans.[[/folder]][[folder:Webcomics]]* ''Webcomic/TheAdventuresOfDrMcNinja'''s Yoshi the velociraptor.* Suss Birds in ''Webcomic/{{Harkovast}}'' fit this trope, as do the Bataks and Histoos.* In ''Webcomic/{{Seekers}}'' the winglings ride chickens.* ''Webcomic/TheWaterPhoenixKing'' has saddle-broken zebras and "bicorns," which are exactly what you'd expect -- large ungulates with two straight horns on their heads. And a riding robot bug.* ''Webcomic/CharbyTheVampirate'' has a variety of horse alternatives including llamas, [[http://www.charbythevampirate.com/comic/1004 riding dogs and manticores]][[/folder]][[folder:Web Original]]* Parodied in ''WebVideo/CollegeSaga'', where the hero rides a chocobo played by a man in a fursuit.* Arachne, a giant spider in ''Literature/VoidDomain'', winds up acting as a school bus for a handful of students when the decide to live a fair distance from the school.[[/folder]][[folder:Western Animation]]* Ostrich-Horses in ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' seem to be the transportation of choice in the Earth Kingdom.* The main characters in ''WesternAnimation/HighlanderTheAnimatedSeries'' ride a kind of large bipedal animal in many episodes.* In ''WesternAnimation/WanderOverYonder'', the eponymous character's mount Sylvia is a Zbornak, an alien with an earless, vaguely horse-shaped head and a body like a theropod dinosaur. She's also blue with a pink mane and tail tuft. [[SapientSteed Oh, and she's sapient too.]][[/folder]][[folder:Real Life]]* Ostrich riders, though they (the ostriches) tend to be pretty unhappy about people riding on their backs, making them impractical for any use other than recreation. They also have an [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnKBQquzGXE unfortunate habit of losing their riders]]. Professional horse jockeys describe them as [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53p-go2DOnE "like riding a giant football"]].** Emus have been used as mounts in much the same manner.[[/folder]]!!Predatory Animals[[folder:Anime and Manga]]* Chiyo-chan in ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh'' is so small, she can comfortably ride Mr. Tadakichi, a Great Pyrenees, to Sakaki's envy.* Which was probably inspired by the novel and Japanese {{anime}} series ''Anime/BelleAndSebastian'', where the latter, a small boy, would often ride on the back of the enormous Belle (also a Great Pyrenees), as they traversed the French and Spanish countryside in search of Sebastian's mother.* In the Magic World of ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima'', the mount of choice appears to be dinosaur-like reptiles such as the one [[spoiler:[[GenkiGirl Makie]]]] rode while buying groceries for the bar she worked in.* While Akamaru the dog from ''Anime/{{Naruto}}'' is as small as most dogs before the time-skip, he grows to the size of a pony over the course of 2 and a half years. His owner, Kiba, uses him as a mount occasionally post-timeskip.** And Kiba acts surprised when Naruto brings it up. "Really? I must not have noticed!"** Other ninja dogs, including Kakashi's and Kuromaru (the one used by Kiba's mom), are capable of talking. And after the TimeSkip Kuromaru is inexplicably [[http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-429/page007.html even larger than Akamaru]].* ''Manga/NausicaaOfTheValleyOfTheWind'' features "Warbeasts", which are something like giant, shaggy dogs with cow horns & lizard-like feet.[[/folder]][[folder:Comic Books]]%%* In the cl when the pet shop told him they had no horses he demanded a dog big enough to ride.* One issue of the comic series of ''Franchise/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' (known for its MixAndMatchCritters) had the bad guy riding a [[http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Puma_goat puma-goat]] of all things. * In ''ComicBook/ElfQuest'' the Wolfriders (unsurprisingly) ride wolves.[[/folder]][[folder:Film--Animated]]* In ''Film/TheCroods'', it isn't institutionalized (as this is before the domestication of animals), but by the end of the film the new-and-improved caveman family have adopted unusual animals as mounts; [[spoiler:the father gets a saber-toothed cat that had been their enemy for much of the film, the daughter and her boyfriend ride an owl-cat that was originally an enemy, the feral baby is riding on a dog-reptile, and the lunky son is bouncing around on a land-whale. The animations during the credits show one of them riding on a "classic" flightless bird as a bonus.]][[/folder]][[folder:Literature]]* Goblins in ''Literature/TheHobbit'' ride on Wargs -- huge, intelligent, evil wolves.* In SMStirling's and DavidDrake's "TheGeneral" series of SF novels, the stranded inhabitants on the fallen colony of Bellevue ride genetically engineered giant dogs instead of horses. The native wildlife (Velociraptors) was hostile enough that horses weren't considered viable, but a 1200-pound Doberman the size of a draft horse was. Biological implausibilities were gleefully ignored although it's mentioned in passing that modifications were made to their spines to enable them to bear the weight of a rider.* The 1987 Ardath Mayhar/Ron Fortier AfterTheEnd collab ''Trail of the Seahawks'' also featured giant riding dogs (and giant mutant ''foxes'' that could be trained as mounts).* Another series with dog mounts was Mike [=McQuay=]'s painfully sucky duology of ''Pure Blood'' and ''Mother Earth''. But [=McQuay=] felt the need to call them "[[CallARabbitASmeerp woofers]]" for some reason.* Creator/CJCherryh's ''Finisterra'' series of novels has creatures called nighthorses that could be easily mistaken for horses, except that they are telepathic foul-tempered caich, despite their name and appearance, are predators.* You wouldn't expect ''Mechwarrior'', ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'''s tabletop RPG, to feature these, but they do. Played straight with the tabiranth, an alien [[PantheraAwesome big cat]] that takes surprisingly well to riders. At about eight and a half feet long, four and a third feet tall at the shoulder, and over five hundred pounds, tabiranth are essentially riding tigers. Averted with the other noted alien riding beast, the Odessan raxx. In spite of looking like a six-legged elephant-sized monitor lizard, it is actually an implied herbivore, explicitly noted to be a GentleGiant, and an extreme MamaBear to boot.* The Skybax Riders of ''{{Dinotopia}}'', who train and fly on huge Pterosaurs, rest very proudly in the realm of the RuleOfCool.* The ''Literature/InheritanceCycle'' is all about this.* {{Dragon Rider}}s are fairly widespread in fiction, to the point of being savagely parodied in Terry Pratchett's 1983 ''Discworld/TheColourOfMagic''** Speaking of Literature/{{Discworld}}, herons and buzzards qualify as "giant flying steeds" if you're a gnome.** And one of the Nac Mac Feegle has a hawk as his steed of choice.* The tarns (large flying birds used as steeds) of John Norman's ''Literature/{{Gor}}'' novels.* In Creator/JRRTolkien's Middle-earth stories (''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'', etc.), Sauron's Ringwraiths ride the wyvern-like flying 'fell beasts'. There are also the giant eagles have been known to give people rides. Notable example, Gandalf's escape from the tower of Orthanc.* ''Literature/HarryPotter'': There are a number of different breeds of winged horses (based in part on the legend of Pegasus and Bellerophon), according to ''Literature/FantasticBeastsAndWhereToFindThem''. Hogwarts employs thestrals, probably the ''least'' horse-like breed. Then there are the hippogriffs, first seen in ''Prisoner of Azkaban''.* In one of [[TheMunchausen Baron Munchausen's]] tall tales, the Baron tames and rides a roc.* In the DorianHawkmoon trilogy by Creator/MichaelMoorcock (also known as the History of the Runestaff), there are flamethrower-wielding warriors who ride ''giant flamingos''.* The Seanchan in ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'' series have, among other things (see other sections), ''raken'' and ''to'raken'', large bird-like creatures used mainly for scouting and surprise attacks.* In the Sugar Rain series, characters ride 'horses'. This functions to emphasize that English is really a 'translation' when a rider settles in for the night he gives the 'horse' a feedbag of meat.* In Literature/TheGeneral series, giant dogs take the place of horses, adding an extra dimension to cavalry combat.[[/folder]][[folder: Mythology]]* Gdon, or Dawon, is a sacred tigress in Tibetan and Hindu mythology that is ridden by the goddess Durga.[[/folder]][[folder: TabletopGames]]* TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}: The Space Wolves often ride Fenrisian wolves into battle. Now obviously, a seven-foot-tall {{Powere Armor}}ed bearded space Viking would be a bit much for a wolf, but fortunately Fenrisian wolves can grow to the size of a Rhino. No, not the African ungulate, [[CanisMajor that's how big the standard wolf is]]. We're talking Rhino the AwesomePersonnelCarrier, which can carry a dozen Space Marines.* TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}:** Goblins ride (normal-sized) wolves, forest goblins ride giant spiders, and some night goblins ride cave squigs -- balls of fungus, teeth and nasty temperament.** Certain Elf princes can ride to battle on white lions. * "Riding dogs" are common mounts for small characters in many ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' settings.[[/folder]][[folder:Video Games]]* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'', the ''protagonist'' serves as a mount to his NinjaButterfly while he is transformed into a wolf.* ''BattleForWesnoth'''s goblins use wolves as mounts.* [[TheEmpire Empire]] factions in ''ElementalWarOfMagic'' may use wargs (giant wolves, unsurprisingly) as mounts for their soldiers, assuming they can find any. Heroes of ''either'' faction may purchase and ride warg mounts. If you want your {{Badass}} leader to ride into battle on top of a white wolf, then why the hell not? Warg Knights are not horses and oxen as we know them, but are instead descendants of each respective species.* In ''DragonQuestVIII'', a sidequest earns you Baumren's Bell; an item which allows you to summon and ride sabretooth tigers on the Western continent.* In ''VideoGame/WarcraftIII'', the Orc Raider units, and their Hero, Thrall, make use of rather large wolves as mounts. The game's Night Elf Faction also includes Mounted Warriors riding Large Predatory Cats such as Panthers and White Tigers.* In ''VideoGame/MiddleEarthShadowOfMordor'', you can ride [[KingOfBeasts Caragors]] and Graugs into battle. Graugs apparently are ''not'' trolls, but they do vaguely resemble them.* People, particularly military cavalry, in ''VideoGame/QueenAtArms'' ride reindeer instead of horses.* If the ''Dragonborn'' DLC has been installed for ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', the player character can learn the ability to ride ''dragons''.[[/folder]][[folder: Webcomic]]* In ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}'' many large clans use large and varying animals as mounts, for transport and battles. The Val'Sarghress breed and train [[CanisMajor horse-sized wolves]], the Vel'Sharen ride elephant-sized [[OurDragonsAreDifferent flightless dragons]] and the Val'Sullisin'rune ride [[PantheraAwesome horse-sized tigers]].[[/folder]][[folder: Western Animation]]* Like many other fantasy worlds, in ancient times Dragons were used as mounts in the ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' world, before being hunted to near extinction. The Sky Bison of the air-nomads are in a similar state; giant, intelligent six legged oxen with beaver tails that could fly, now with only one member of their species - Appa - believed left alive. As of the SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'', however, a new colony of Sky Bison have been found, which gives hope that the species can be repopulated. This is also true of dragons, if Zuko's pet dragon Druk is anything to go by.* ''WesternAnimation/ThePiratesOfDarkWater'' was set on a world without wide-open spaces of dry land. Flying critters called Dagrons (small dragons, really) were the ride of choice. [[HumanResources Turns out they had a secret]].[[/folder]][[folder:Other]]* In the CollectibleCardGame ''BellaSara'' universe, the villains ride [[SavageWolves vicious wolves.]][[/folder]][[folder: RealLife]]* Giving their trainers rides or pushing them through the water is a standard exercise for performing orcas and pilot whales. Bottle-nosed dolphins aren't strong enough to haul a full-sized human around the training-tank for more than a lap or two, but pairs of them working together can carrying a clinging human a fair distance or even lunge out of the water with a trainer hanging between them.[[/folder]]!!Other/Multiple[[folder:Art]]* On the ''Art/CartaMarina'' of 1539, there is an armed troop of "Scricfinns" ("Skiing Finns", meaning Saami) riding to battle on reindeers.[[/folder]][[folder:Anime and Manga]]* ''Manga/InuYasha'': Sesshoumaru's preferred mount for his followers is something that can only be described as a two-headed [[OurDragonsAreDifferent dragon]]-horse in what might have been inspired by certain types of [[http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRdojZQ9gWjX1GTzFiLna6BvaLHiZ1vls0QNOo3h0mMMMxCztimkw kirin imagery]].* In ''Anime/PrincessMononoke'', the hero of the story rides what is referred to as a "red elk," but looks more like a (slightly modified) siberian ibex. Not only can the beast comfortably carry a rider, but is so so strong that he can do that kind of animal's graceful leaping so burdened.* In ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'', the peoples of Shura and Yama ride on four-legged creatures that bear a slight resemblance to dragons but which are the size of horses. They are used as [[HorseArcher mounts in battle]].[[/folder]][[folder:Comic Books]]* All over the place in the {{Star Wars Expanded Universe}}. From the [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tauntaun Tauntauns]] of Hoth, to the [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dewback Dewbacks]] of Tatooine and lizard-like [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Varactyl Varactyl]] of Utapau, any planet inhabited by sentient aliens will be guaranteed to have domesticated and rideable exotic beasts of burden of some sort. * ''ComicBook/TheLifeAndTimesOfScroogeMcDuck'': Scrooge [=McDuck=] has established his badass credentials several times with these. When he was left for dead in the South African Savanna, he went berserk against all the animals trying to eat or kill him and cowed a ''lion'' into becoming his steed. In Australia, he encountered an Emu and used it instead, at least until it ran off from an approaching flood. In the Klondike, he has used moose for transport on more than one occasion. In ''Hearts of the Yukon'', we also briefly see a rider arrive into Dawson City on a bear--but even he's scared of [[TheAce Samuel Steele]].* In the ''Main/MickeyMouse'' comic story ''[[http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=D+2005-060 Iceberg let us alone]]'', a tribe of Inuits living in a cave network inside an enormous iceberg use walruses as riding animals (though the comparison with horses is a bit far-fetched — we never see any walrus galloping, they seem to walk slowly as normal walrus would.[[/folder]][[folder:Films -- Animated]]* Along with [[GiantFlyer flying animals,]] the characters in ''WesternAnimation/{{Epic}}'' have been seen to use other mounts. The leader of the senselessly evil Boggins uses a star-nosed mole on one occasion, though this may just be due to his status as resident [[TheBeastmaster Beastmaster]] rather than that being a normal Boggin mount. On the good guys' side, the heroes take a ride on a deer--which is ABSURDLY large compared to them--though this is not considered typical either.* The fairies from ''WesternAnimation/StrangeMagic'' are small enough that Roland can ride an armored squirrel, despite the fact that he can, y'know, '''fly''' with his own wings.[[/folder]][[folder:Films -- Live-Action]]* ''Film/{{Avatar}}''[='=]s Na'vi also ride ''fa'li'', or "direhorses", six-legged, nectar-drinking horse-things.* ''Film/TheDarkCrystal'' had Landstriders, long-legged beasties with stinger tongues.* The racing snail in ''Film/TheNeverendingStory'' movie.* The inhabitants of Dirt from ''WesternAnimation/{{Rango}}'' primairly use bats, roadrunners, and peccaries as horses.* ''Franchise/StarWars'' had several; Tauntauns on Hoth, Dewbacks and Banthas on Tatooine, [[WebComic/DarthsAndDroids Baby Dinosaur Ponies]]...ahem, ''Kaadu''...on Naboo, etc.* ''Film/TheHobbit'' presents a ''Megaloceros'' deer-like steed Thranduil rides on during the film's prologue. Later, Radagast's sledge is pulled by ''rabbits''...Sled Dogs Of A Different Color?* During ''Film/{{Thor}}'', when the god of thunder needs to leave town, he walks into the most logical place to look for transportation: A pet shop.-->'''Thor:''' I need a horse!\\'''Pet Shop Clerk:''' We don't have horses. Just dogs, cats and birds...\\'''Thor:''' Then give me one of those large enough to ride!* ''Buffalo Rider'' features Jake Jones, an Old West outdoorsman who [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin rides a buffalo]].[[/folder]][[folder:Literature]]* In Julian May's ''Literature/SagaOfTheExiles'', the mount of choice for the Tanu dwelling in Earth's prehistoric past is the chaliko- short for chalicothere. Chalicotheres are extinct relatives of horses, rhinos, and tapirs. (Unfortunately they're also generally pretty slope-backed and have a gait that really wouldn't work well at all on a riding animal. Oh well.)* The thoats and zitidars used as mounts in Edgar Rice Burroughs' Martian/[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barsoom Barsoom]] stories featuring [[Literature/JohnCarterOfMars Captain John Carter of Virginia]].* In Creator/NealStephenson's ''Literature/TheDiamondAge'', the upper-class transport of choice is the Chevaline, which is a kind of robot horsey with a vestigial knob for a tail.* In ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' the Fremen ride the sandworms of Arrakis. Great-worms and lesser-worms are used in teams to pull a chariot.* ''Literature/TheDuelOfSorceryTrilogy'' featured rambuts (something like [[VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft talbuks]], or possibly [[Anime/PrincessMononoke Yakkul]]) and macain (reptilian mammals, or mammalian reptiles, that hatch from eggs and resemble ornithopod dinosaurs).* Creator/HBeamPiper mentioned in ''Four-Day Planet'' that most people in the Terro-Human Future History universe believe (incorrectly) that horses are extinct. The narrator mentions having seen "so-called Westerns with the cowboys riding Freyan ''oukry''."* The Weber/Ringo collaboration that is the ''Literature/PrinceRoger'' series has a species referred to variously as 'flar'ta' and 'pagee', described as a hexapedal triceratops, almost. They are herbivorous, and mostly placid, although there is a related species ('flar'ke' or 'pagithar') which is far more aggressive (the analogy drawn is to Cape buffalo). The flar'ta fills much the same role as an elephant- pack animal, mount and occasionally war beast. There are also the ''civan'' that are used as cavalry mounts. They are described as horse-ostriches, and are two-legged, omnivorous, scaly and have a vicious streak about two miles wide.* OlderThanFeudalism: In ''Literature/TrueHistory'' by Lucian, the king of the Moon rides on a vultuplant merged with a horse, and you'll get the idea).* Aahz of the ''Literature/MythAdventures'' series is too squat-bodied to comfortably ride a horse, so when he participates in a ritual hunt as security, he's given a hiphippohippus (similar to a skinny rhino) as a mount. The rider for one of the opposing teams in Jahk's Big Game was mounted on an armored hump-shaped creature with thousands of very tiny legs underneath, and no evident head or sense organs.* In ''[[Literature/GarrettPI Petty Pewter Gods]]'', the Shayir pantheon's original believers were the Ox-Riders of Gritn. As their culture is long extinct, it's unclear if anyone in Garrett's world still rides oxen.* It's not clear what the "horses" in ''Literature/TheCarpetPeople'' by Creator/TerryPratchett actually ''are'', but given that they have compound eyes that change colour when they're frightened, and are ridden by people to whom [[MouseWorld a matchstick is an unending wall of wood]], they [[CallASmeerpARabbit certainly aren't horses]].* The ''Literature/{{Safehold}}'' series by Creator/DavidWeber has an interesting variation. Dragons (massive hexapedal reptiles the size of buses) are used as heavy draft animals. Unlike most examples, they aren't replacing any terrestrial animal. Instead, dragons can haul loads no terrestrial critter could, making it practical to bring some truly titanic cannons on campaign.* ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'':** Horses exist, but they can only be found in one secluded corner of the continent, making them extremely valuable everywhere else. Nobles use them for travel and cavalry charges, but one of the most important parts of warfare is getting the horses out of the way immediately after their charge, because they're too valuable to leave in danger. The standard beast of burden is the chull, a placid giant crustacean with a rock-like shell that can be carved into a seat. They are slow and stupid, so many characters find horses far too intelligent and dangerous to bother riding.** Then there are the Ryshadium, bigger and stronger horses that may or may not be sentient in their own right. They are intelligent enough to choose their own riders and refuse to accept any other. They need very little care, since they mostly look after themselves, but they are more rare than [[SoulCuttingBlade Shardblades]] and [[PoweredArmor Shardplate]].* ''Literature/TheDinosaurLords'' uses, unsurpringly, dinosaurs of all stripes, mostly hadrosauruses and deinonychuses, although larger beasts such as T-rexes, triceratopses or various sauropods are also ridden in and out of combat.[[/folder]][[folder:Tabletop Games]]* In ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''' Eberron campaign setting, the Kingdom of Breland is famous for their bear cavalry. As a certain image macro says: "[[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/BearCavalry.jpg Bear Cavalry: Yeah, you're pretty much fucked.]]"** Unless you have [[MemeticMutation Cat Snipers]].** Or are a halfling, in which case you ride freaking ''dinosaurs''.** The standard steed in the '"DarkSun'' setting, a kank, is a giant beetle.** Riding dogs (read: big, working breeds) are a very common mount for Small characters.** D&D has several entries under every category of this trope, so it's worth pointing out that you can ride essentially anything in this game under the right circumstances, including a gelatinous cube.* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' has tons of these: cyber-horses, boars, cyber-boars, giant lizards, daemons that look like weird worms, daemons that look like metal rhinos...** In addition, the chief source of meat in the Imperium is the Grox, a large, rather ill-tempered lizard-like creature.** As usual it's overshadowed in the [[RuleofCool sheer awesome]] department by its sci-fi brother, but TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Fantasy also has a variety of fantasy mounts, including wolves, boars, and giant spiders (pony-size).* In the furry RPG ''TabletopGame/{{Ironclaw}}'', since horses are a [[FurryConfusion playable race]], they have a variety of domesticated dinosaur-like reptiles. The ones intended for riding are named after varieties of horse, i.e. palfries look like struthiomimuses while destriers are more like utahraptors.* ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'': Various creatures have turned up riding, among other things, the deer-like "cervins", the lion-like "leotau", flying manta rays, wolves, griffins, oxen, giant cats, robot gargoyles the size of houses, several kinds of giant bug, dinosaurs, copper-tusked boars, birds and [[http://magiccards.info/wwk/en/82.html whatever the hell this thing is]].* In ''TabletopGame/RocketAge'' Bahmoots, velociraptor-style reptiles, are used as beasts of burden on Mars, while the Silthuri use a three and a half metre tall bird called the Royal Karn to pull their chariots.* Goblins in ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'' ride goblin dogs... which is a case of NonIndicativeName, since they're actually giant, disease-carrying hairless rats.[[/folder]][[folder:Video Games]]* In ''AgeOfWonders'' most mounted units ride horses or wolves, but the Lizardmen are the most unusal ride giant frogs. There are also specialized units which ride giant eagles, wyverns, giant moles, and giant beetles.* Before she became an expert {{Miko}} and learned to fly on her own, [[VideoGame/{{Touhou}} Reimu Hakurei]] used to mount an intelligent, talking, flying turtle named Genji.* ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'' has all three:** Noishe, the party's overworld mount, is a giant white green dog with massive ears. Who's deathly afraid of monsters. And in one of the skits is speculated to be an ancient ever evolving creature.** Some enemies are seen to ride oversized raptors called "Velocidragons".** Actual dragons are sometimes trained as mounts, and the party even rides them at one point.* Flynn from ''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia'' uses a horse-like monster with reptilian traits as a steed in one scene. The same variety of monster is also seen being used to tow merchant caravans in ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia''.* In the first ''VideoGame/{{Grandia}}'' game, there was promotional material as well as [[http://comenzarjuego.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/grandia-1.jpga small cameo]] in the game proper of a large, long-legged turtle which was used as a mount. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen Unfortunately]], you don't get to ride it at all, and disappeared after one town.* ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY'' allows the use of Pokémon such as Gogoat and Rhyhorn as steeds.* In the multiplayer mode of ''VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption'', the player can unlock mounts other than horses and donkeys, including a bull, a zebra, and the American bison. In the ''Undead Nightmare'' DLC, you can ride the Four Horses of the Apocalypse (only one at a time, though).* ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''** A different creature serves as the basic mount for each playable race, but other races can obtain their faction's racial mounts later on.** In addition, many more mounts are available as various rewards in the game plus various flying mounts, plus constant new additions available and a variety of limited edition and promotional ones. Wolves, dinosaurs, giant bats, giant lizards, ostriches, dragons, big cats, sheep, pretty much all bases are covered somewhere.** Horde players technically couldn't even ride (non-[[HellishHorse demonic]] or [[RaisingTheSteaks undead]]) horses until the Argent Warhorse was introduced late in ''Wrath of the Lich King''.** A lot of this dates back to its RTS roots, such as the sabre-cat mounts prefered by the night elves, orcs riding giant wolves, tauren using kodo beasts (giant lizards) as pack animals etc. Likewise, the basic flying mount for both factions (and the one used for flight paths well before that) have made their first appearances in the RTS.* ''VideoGame/{{Rift}}'' has a similarly eclectic line-up, including everything from ordinary horses to monitor lizards, {{Mechanical Horse}}s, giant squirrels, a creature resembling a huge floating blue glaucus, and a sort of [[MixAndMatchCritters hybrid of antelope and oviraptor]].* In a {{Homage}} to the ''VideoGame/MegaMan'' arcade games, [[RecurringBoss Shadow Man]] rides a frog in Bright Man's stage in ''VideoGame/Rockman4MinusInfinity''.* In ''Videogame/DragonAgeInquisition'', the player can ride mounts for the first time in the series. These include horses, harts, dracolisks, giant nugs, and other exotic mounts. Of particular note is the "Bog Unicorn", a possessed zombie horse whose "horn" is a sword shoved into its skull. The horsemaster finds the nugs particularly disturbing since they have [[UncannyValley hands]].* In ''VideoGame/SinsOfASolarEmpire'', some planets are described as having "Native Megafauna" improving commerce (presumably by using these beasts as pack animals across the planet).* ''VideoGame/TheTraderOfStories'' has husks, oxen of another colour (they look like a dinosaur crossed with an armadillo).* ''VideoGame/HeroesOfMightAndMagic III'' has wolf riders and, with the first expansion, boar riders.* In ''VideoGame/GemsOfWar'', some of the goblins ride into battle on boars.[[/folder]][[folder:Webcomics]]* ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}'' has Dawmere/Unicorn, horse-like animals, that have cloven feet and short fat horns on their head, they are more akin to donkeys or mountain goats then horses. Real horses exist, but are rarely if ever used by the titular Drow, as they are unsuited for underground conditions.* ''Webcomic/{{Erfworld}}'' is home to a broad variety of mounts, including spidews, dwagons, gwiffons, unipegataurs, megalogwiffs, tankeroos (kangaroo-formed cloth golems), elephant-formed cloth golems, and a glass golem which appears to actually be in the form of a horse.* ''Webcomic/{{Megatokyo}}'' gives us the Rent-A-Zilla whom [[spoiler: Yuki Sonoda takes to riding once her MagicalGirl abilities really start to kick in.]] Largo has made use of them in this way, too.* ''Webcomic/{{Doodze}}'' features a [[http://seguemediagroup.com/doodze/?p=942 squirrel.]] (Not a giant squirrel. Doodzes are tiny.)* ''Webcomic/{{Uncreation}}'' features the centitrains, which are giant centipedes that (unsurprisingly) function as trains. They even have the ability to seperate like train carriages - by ''ripping themselves in half'' and then regenerating a new head out of the wound.* Being based on ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' likes this trope quite a bit. Belkar's wiener dog, Hinjo's dire wolf Argent, Xykon's zombie silver dragon, Lien's shark Razor, and Redcloak's summoned fiendish mammoth all get play during the Battle of Azure City alone. The demon roaches even [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0451.html lampshade it]] when riding a raccoon.* ''Webcomic/{{Astray3}}'' has bird-like creatures usable as mounts as well as a whirling bug creature that pulls carts.* The Denizens (LivingShadow minions) in ''Webcomic/SequentialArt'' [[http://www.collectedcurios.com/sequentialart.php?s=383 tried]] to ride a ''platypus'' for fun.[[/folder]][[folder:Western Animation]]* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'': Both ordinary horses and horses of a different color can be found in the land of Ooo, among them a a yellow lemon camel ridden by the manic and over-reacting lemon person, Lemongrab.** The topper is an ordinary horse being ridden by a creature that is a cross between a rainbow and a unicorn. (Who is usually herself ridden.)** And then, of course, there's [[MemeticBadass James Baxter]].* Buggalo (giant ladybugs) in ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' are the equivalent of cows.** And only those who ride Buggalo may have Buggalo. And [[FantasyCounterpartCulture that's]] [[MagicalNativeAmerican us]].** And when driving Buggalo, you ride a giant tarantula. Farnsworth will have you know that it's not a giant ant:---> '''Farnsworth''': [[YouFailBiologyForever Its not a magic bug you idiot, its a magic arachnid!]] [[BerserkButton See, count the legs, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight!]]* ''WesternAnimation/HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse1983'': He-man's typical transportation is Battlecat, a giant tiger.* In ''Frozen'' Sven the Reindeer fulfills this trope.* One episode of ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' had the girls invaded by giant broccoli aliens after they spiked the town's broccoli supply with MindControl spores that left all the adults incapacitated, leaving the girls and the kids to confront the green threat. As part of their vegetable motif, the broccoli king rides a carrot-shaped mount.* An episode of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' had [[QuirkyMinibossSquad Azula and friends]]'' riding giant basilisk lizards, complete with a scene where they run across the surface of water.[[note]]Yes, basilisk lizards can actually do that in real life[[/note]]* In Mercedes Lackey's Valdemar novels, the Hawkbrothers sometimes ride on ''dyheli'', which are something like [[SapientSteed sentient]] wapiti.[[/folder]][[folder:Real Life]]* People have tamed zebras and managed to ride them before, but it is more impractical than horses because of their temperament and because zebras have less speed and endurance than horses. Zorses (zebra-horse hybrids) are somewhat more practical as mounts.* Reindeer are the only deer that can be said to be domesticated. They can be ridden or trained to pull sleds or carriages.* Yaks. * Oxen are ridden occasionally.* Donkeys of course.** Mules and hinnies each technically fulfill half of this trope.** It's often ignored that horses were in fact not known in the Fertile Crescent at the time the first civilizations arose there, and donkeys were the only equivalent found for a long time in their native Egypt. Some also believe that the ancient Sumerians experimented with onager-led chariots before horses became available.* Asian elephants have been used as mounts for thousands of years, although more as beasts of burden than long-range transport. African elephants are far less manageable, although some individual animals will allow a familiar human keeper to ride them.* Camels, for both one-humped dromedaries and two-humped Bactrian species. Llamas have been ridden as well, although their foul temper makes them impractical as mounts.** Because they're a ''lot'' bigger and stronger than horses, camels were used as battle mounts in the Middle East for centuries, able to cross terrain that would kill a horse and to run in full barding. Some even carried small cannons on their backs to serve as the first highly-mobile artillery units.* Elks (moose for American tropers) can be tamed and ridden.** Also true of a few hand-reared bison.* [[http://www.messybeast.com/history/working3.htm Here]] are some examples, including mounted elk, yaks, llamas and ostriches and elk-, pig-, and ostrich-driven chariots and carriages.[[/folder]]----%%%% Don't even think about just dumping your examples at the bottom of the page. Put them where they go.%%


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Cody McMichael, student
employment coordinator, introduced the six nominees and
announced the winner at a university sponsored reception.
Each nominee was given a certificate of appreciation and
a guide book for resume writing.
Nelson has worked in the
university business office for nearly three years. She
was honored for her initiative and diligence. She
developed quick reference documents at the student fee
payment check-in and refined procedures to the standing
purchase order process by developing self-help guides.
She is described as dependable and responsible in all
endeavors. She worked in accounts payable, contacted
vendors and researched documentation requests. She is an
individual who gets the job done, says her supervisor.
President Thomas Flickema presented a plaque and
recognition certificate to Nelson. She was also named the
South Dakota student employee of the year. She received a
$200 award from the BHSU Foundation and a $75 award from
the Midwest Association of Student Employment
Administrators. She is now eligible to compete for
regional honors.
nominees recognized at the reception were Whitney Waters,
Colstrip, Mont.; Nelson, Brenda Berry, Kadoka; Jay Beyer,
Rapid City; Mandy Barthel, Dawson, Mont.; and (not
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After 4 years of steady riding, I took my first extended lay off this winter. I took almost 3 months off after Thanksgiving until last week. My first ride back was a commute. Probably a mistake.....I forgot about the sore arse thing. The ride in was great, but painful on the way home. Since then I've done two 20 milers.
The lay off was good. I think I needed it because I was feeling burned out on the bike. Problem is that I gained 10 pounds. The weight should drop quickly as soon as I start doing longer rides.
Oh well......it's great to be back in the saddle!! And back on BF!!


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HHS girls 3rd, boys 5th in Eagle Grove cross country meet
Humboldt's girls finished third while the boys took fifth-place in their respective team scoring of the annual Eagle Grove Dick Bell Invitational cross country meet held Oct. 8. Humboldt's girls finished with 63 team points to finish behind Gilbert (38) and Spencer (56). There were nine teams in the field. Sam Larson ran second overall in 15:30 to pace Humboldt while Maddie Kampen was fourth in 16:06.
Humboldt's boys finished with 134 team points. Algona won the meet with 57 and Gilbert was second with 60. Garner-Hayfield/Ventura/West Hancock was third at 88 and Clear Lake fourth with 103. Jake Miller ran 15th overall to pace the Humboldt boys. His time was 17:32. Michael Bowden was 22nd in 18:08.
Humboldt will run in the North Central Conference meet on Oct. 15 in Eagle Grove.
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Oh look. The Henderson fan is back again. How quickly he forgets that henderson is a joke program who is only relevant because they got to play teams half their size. If winning a state titlegames were THAT satisfying, why has he been reduced to trolling other teams? What has longview done to get in his head? Why does he have a pathetic, bitter obsession with the Lobos to the point that he inevitably shows up with his posts that have little grammatical correctness to try and trash a program, saying things he's said millions of times before? Looks like that state championship didn't give him the validation he wanted, so he's seeking it elsewhere. He knows in his heart that Henderson is a joke and weren't even the best in their own district that year. In fact, didn't they get blown out by teams as they do every year?
Oh stop it were not Pine tree. Longview not in my head . I admit I do enjoy year after year (75 to be exact) of seeing the lobos lose under pressure. Grammar please man its a sports forum lol. Henderson didn't get blown out in 3a. We were competive for the most part in 4a and had 7 losing season since 1968. Yeah real loser there. Also if longview gets third or kilgore 3rd and wins state they would be just as proud.


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Amazon.com Product Description (ISBN 0307981851, Hardcover)Welcome to Wise Acres, where the sassy kids go.
In the seventh installment of Heck, Dale E. Basye sends Milton and Marlo Fauster to Wise Acres, the circle reserved for kids who sass back. In Wise Acres, the cleverest, snarkiest, put-downiest kids debate and trade insults in Spite Club. But the new vice principal, Lewis Carroll, has some curious plans to raise the profile—and the stakes—of the competition. Now a full-fledged War of the Words will be broadcast through the afterlife. The winner will get the heck out of Heck and go straight to heaven. And the loser? Well, the loser goes down . . . all the way down to the real h-e-double-hockey-sticks. And Milton and Marlo are on opposite teams. Can they find a way out of Lewis Carroll's mad-as-a-hatter scheme? Or is one Fauster about to pay a permanent visit to the Big Guy Downstairs?
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You asked for no more photos of Kimora for a while, so I bring you her former co-host Jules Asner. Now that Life & Style has been cancelled, the dirt is flowing. So it's now surprise that Kimora drove everyone crazy. How does Russell live with her? Some of the highlights of Kimora's antics:
- Kimora missed 35 episodes and gave wild excuses — like being in extended mourning for her dead cat.
- Kimora called the other hosts — Jules Asner, Cynthia Garrett and Lynne Koplitz — "bitches and hos" and once berated a Teleprompter operator so badly that he quit on the spot.
- She stole props such as lamps and once made off with an entire rack of lamb from the lunch buffet table. Staff routinely had to be dispatched to the sticky-fingered star's dressing room in order to recover the pilfered booty.
- The statuesque former model also threatened to beat up an eight-month pregnant assistant, prompting weary producers to send the woman home to avert trouble.
– But perhaps the lowest point came when she supposedly had donuts delivered to the set, then licked each and every one so nobody else could eat them.
She should join Rosie O'Donnell in the embracing of five-year-old antics. My personal favorite is that she stole a rack of lamb. What does one do with an entire rack of lamb?
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Pros: you can write on it.
Cons: The paper is horrible, it failed to load in my Epson Artisan, Cannon Pixma and older Epson R200. Its thick, and not in a good way. Useless for printers. Why make (printing)paper if its useless. Ended up being tossed in the trash can.
Other Thoughts: I have been avoiding hammer mill for 3 years going strong now.
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Concern over potential rising student debt isn't isolated to University-goers and their parents. In fact, it's a topic of concern for high-profile individuals such as Patrick Steward, who recently spoke out against the new style fees. Personal finances are often difficult for new students to manage.
Straight out of school they are expected to manage bills, rent and living expenses. Some even need to take part-time job in order to supplement their student loan. It can be easy to get carried away during this time and build up debts by living the student lifestyle to the fullest. Access to credit can sometimes be too much of a temptation to this group, who can find themselves paying by credit card and failing to pay off the full balance. With credit cards often required for online transactions such as booking tickets for the theatre or similar, in many ways they can be seen as a necessity; there is however another option: pre-paid credit cards. These are offered by the likes of Secure Trust Bank and can be used to make purchases online without the risk of mounting debts because you need to preload them before use.
For more information about Patrick Stewarts concerns, see: http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/at-a-glance/education/exclusive_actor_patrick_stewart_hits_out_over_student_fees_1_3594499


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welcome aboard RuinWeaver. I'm not sure if anyone here abouts uses FM (Fractal Mapper?)
Hello all
I'm a 35 going on 15 (I'm a high school teacher) bloke from Warrandyte near Melbourne, Australia. I grew up playing in abandoned gold mines in the nearby bush, and couldn't help been caught in the then new D&D craze.
I have designed umpteen pen-and-paper maps to go with my campaign worlds, but never one using any software. I just got FM v8, and now I'm trying to figure out the best place to start.
I've read the tutorial in FM, but it seems to cover only the basics. I want to make realistic looking world and then regional maps.
Does anyone know any more indepth tutes on FM v8?
welcome aboard RuinWeaver. I'm not sure if anyone here abouts uses FM (Fractal Mapper?)
Daniel the Neon Knight: Campaign Cartographer User
Never use a big word when a diminutive one will suffice!
Any questions on CC3? Post them with CC3 in the Subject Line!
MY 'FAMOUS' CC3 MAPS: Thunderspire; Pyramid of Shadows; King of the Trollhaunt Warrens; Demon Queen's Enclave
Define "realistic"? I have yet to see any FM or CC world maps which match my definition of realistic. Don't get me wrong, you can make some beautiful maps with either software package, but for me, the real strong point of both of these programs is their raster images for making town and battle map style maps , their ability to create some great fractals and the ability to fairly quickly throw up a world/region map that conveys the information needed such as where mountains/forests, etc are located.
Here is a good sample: http://www.nbos.com/products/mapper/...le-nazrain.jpg
Also, if you want to get a good idea of how someone actually made a map take look at Christopher Rodrigues Macias post of Eberron http://www.nbos.com/nox/download.php?id=76. You can download the map in FM native format and hide/show layers to see the techniques he used which are quite good for FM (he even used FM 7 which had some features missing that FM8 could have used to make this map quite a bit better)
Also, make SURE you get the hugh CSAUC from http://www.gmsapprentice.com as the included art will make a hugh difference in the number of fills and town/battlemap symbols you have available.
My Finished Maps
Works in Progress(or abandoned tests)
My Tutorials:
Explanation of Layer Masks in GIMP
How to create ISO Mountains in GIMP/PS using the Smudge tool
Unless otherwise stated by me in the post, all work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 United States License.
Here is an example map I made in a few hours using FM8 about a year and a half ago, only using the vector tools a few texture fills.
My plan at this point is to go back through and remake this in GIMP at a fairly high resolution in the near future to make a more realistic map. Since my DM does not use any mapping software at the table, a good high res print out can be much prettier and realistic than anything in FM 8. Now, if I was DM'ing, I would probably use FM8s native format to take advantage of the map linking at the expense of beauty.
The first map is the original my DM created in Campaign Mapper (stripped down version of CC from about 10 years ago) and my version second.
My Finished Maps
Works in Progress(or abandoned tests)
My Tutorials:
Explanation of Layer Masks in GIMP
How to create ISO Mountains in GIMP/PS using the Smudge tool
Unless otherwise stated by me in the post, all work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 United States License.
Welcome to the Guild, Ruinweaver! As Neon said, our FM8 user numbers are still very small but I think it's great to have users of all sorts of different software here. I think I'm the only Drawplus user here, so you're not alone!
Howdy Ruinweaver! FM is a good little program I think if you are not wanting to really put an exhaustive amount of 'graphic detail' into your maps. I think, imo, that FM is good for a first sketchy pass and solidifying the basics of what is on your map. I think in terms of FM as good with the content you want to include.
I have Corel Painter, (soon to grab gimp), CC3 and its various mapping extensions, etc... BUT, granted I have all this, but it is really about the MAP and what you put down on it, NOT about the 'TOOLS' that you use to make it.
I was an architect intern for years and used CAD, Photoshop, etc.. for years, but no matter what you use, its not about the TOOLs its about the content.
Imagine of workflow as you start to become familiar with GIMP, FM v8, etc... then find a way to use them all, if you need to. Sometimes creating something is about the path you take to get to the finished work...
Just some thoughts...
Well howdy, CartoGeo! You can have your first post on your own thread you know!
Great to see you here and welcome to our little guild. It's great to have a proper architect here....most of us have no idea about architecture apart from what is self taught and it would be wonderful if you could share your knowledge on the subject.
I entirely agree that it's what you make rather than the software you make it with that counts.
Ummmm well if you could draw a building and talk us though it, that would be a wonderful start. I have Ching's book on Form, Space and Order which has taught me so much, but I'd love to see a professional in action!


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I wonder if they could, in the future, include more styles of mountain biking, that would rule.
I wonder if they could, in the future, include more styles of mountain biking, that would rule.
Weak, needs to be like a VR game, including the ability to lean and such.
Cool. I was thinking this would be the next great cycling product. Some ways I would approach it would be to #1 - make it cheaper. Perhaps instead of buying the whole bike you just buy a trainer with USB connections to a computer.
LCD monitors are so cheap I would put one on the front of the bike; clip-on if you use a trainer. Then that connects to the trainer and possibly your tv service. That way you can watch tv, programs for racing, advertisements, etc.. The advertisements would allow direct market interaction to the people cycling companies would want to target.
I would set up contests for people so that the person to have the fastest mile for the day/week/month/year gets a prize. Same goes for distances, climbs, etc.. They could be gel packs, cages, wheel sets, etc.. A LCD monitor could also mean you could have new games to compete. Put a couple buttons on the bottom or use a touch screen and now you can make it all interactive and introduce other races that are more like games than races. For example, first person to finish a 20 mile circuit with 10 second detractions for every multiple choice question you answer incorrectly. Or you could make it like Mario Kart and if you get to the 5/10/15 mile markers first you can do things like increase the other persons resistance for 30 seconds, or make their odometer stop counting. They'll be resting, but they won't gain any distance.
There are so many ways to make it cool. A $3500 dollar machine probably isn't the answer.


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This race was a joke..racing dictated by rules and probably the worst hard compound tire in the history of F1. Pirelli ought to be ashamed to bring such a poor product to F1. Who has the most good tires wins..not who builds the best car..There couldve been 5 cars fighting for the win. Just like 2005, tires will dictate who wins the wdc.


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I knew Preveal was exactly what I needed! I immediately took down the projector, went back to beautiful paper proofs and of course had Preveal ready to show off. My clients loved it! They were so impressed, it takes the guess work out of displays for both of us! My first sale using Preveal was over $5400 and many more since then.
After having a family mini session last fall, I thought that was the end of that order when they purchased a few digital files. They had shown an interest in some larger prints so I was able to designs two different samples to show them using their images from their home and office to make a $1600 canvas sale. They were blown away at the technology and I would have never gotten that sale without Preveal!
I have always sold jpg files, but I knew that this year I wanted to start selling more product. After using the Preveal app for the very first time, I made an $1125 sale!! She purchased a collection for her bedroom wall as well as for the living room.
I met with [my clients] in person and was able to show them with Preveal how we can display their images and they absolutely fell in love with having multiple images up. They loved being able to watch how their display came together in Preveal... I used one of the templates from Bay Photo as a starting point and ended up designing my own. In the end, they ordered 13 canvases to showcase in their hallway area!!
My client originally told me she wanted to order one small canvas print. I said, "Let me show you something..." I used the Preveal App to show her what a 9 canvas collection would look like on her own wall, and showed how it compared to the single canvas. I didn't say a word, I just showed her the images. Within seconds, she told me she wanted to purchase the collection. From that moment, I knew I'd never do another sales session without Preveal.
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The first time I used Preveal (with the Design Aglow galleries, of course!) I had a sweet sale of $6500. Family of 5, canvas groupings in 2 rooms plus a few gift prints. So much fun & easy to show and sell with. LOVE this app!!
Since buying Preveal a couple months ago I've done only a handful of sessions and sold over $20,000 in canvases. I highly encourage any photographer that is looking to increase their post-production sales to purchase this app. One sale with this app will not only pay for the app but will also likely pay for the iPad you are using it on!
Recently I did a family session and they were wanting some prints for their living room. Large open walls. I had her send me a photo of the room and the sizes she was requesting (8x10's). I then showed her the same wall with 2 16x24's and they LOVE them. I'm already booking more clients from her bragging about how awesome it was to see her photos on HER wall!
As soon as I saw Preveal, I knew I had to have it for my clients! My husband was skeptical because of the price, but we decided to give it a shot. My clients love seeing their pictures displayed on their walls. Usually they'll come to an ordering session ready to buy prints. Once I show them how amazing their pictures will look on their own walls, the canvases sell themselves! My sales are easily 5 times what they were when I was relying on online sales!
My first time using Preveal was for a friend who was also a client. And even with her friends and family discount I was still able to sell enough not only to purchase Preveal but the iPad also. She went from wanting a 16x20 canvas to purchasing a 5 piece canvas wall grouping!!! Thank you Preveal! Because seeing is really believing!!
I had a family who were in the process of deciding whether to move or not, and were concerned about the size of their walls changing. I used Preveal to make a configuration that looks gorgeous on their wall now, AND showed them how it could be rearranged for different walls in other houses. They loved it all, and spent just over $2k for their walls, and their future walls!
I have been a victim of the 8x10 curse for years now, especially since I don't have a studio space to project wall portrait sizes for my customers. After showing Preveal to my first client after I purchased it, she ordered a canvas and another wall grouping!!! Once she saw how amazing her own photos would look above her own couch, I didn't have to sell anything. Preveal did it all!
Largest wall canvas yet. My client was moving houses and wanted a keepsake of the graffiti wall from her old house memorialized. She wanted "large" but was unsure of the exact size for her wall. Preveal to the rescue. We're making her a 40x50 gallery wrap!
My first sale after purchasing, my expectations were exceeded. It was so easy. The ability to show what my work would look like on their wall made all the difference! Instead of one large print, which was their intent, they purchased a set of complementary ones. Preveal tripled what would have been a simple sale and I walked away looking like the rock star that I am :)
Before the order consult, our client thought they wanted a few small prints and a 16x20... Then, we launched Preveal on our iPad and wow! The client was amazed by the true-to-life viewing and excited about the planning! The Wall portion of the order became 2 30x40 canvases, a 20x30 canvas, a 20x20 print and a 10x20 print! Preveal! You rock! Thanks for the amazing product! Couldn't have enabled our client to visualize the big picture without you!
I had been so used to taking the "easy way out" and doing all of my sales online. I had heard so much awesomeness about Preveal that I decided to take the plunge and buy the app. A week later I did my first in-person sales consultation and was absolutely stunned that I was able to make more during that sale than I had ever done selling online. My clients love being able to see what their photos would look like in their home and so do I. Definitely recommend Preveal to everyone I can!
I recently started doing in person sales at my client's homes. I used Preveal for the very first time last night and before I could even get to prices, my clients were taking me all over their home to design wall galleries! I have a 30×40 and 2 wall galleries sold on top of the Collection they purchased putting sales well over $2K… AND I am still building galleries for them!
I had my first ordering session using Preveal this morning. Not only was my client super impressed with the app, she spent more than triple my average family portrait sale, and was thanking me profusely as I walked out the door! This is such an amazing tool to add to my sales line up — thank you!
I just bought Preveal and the 3 times I've used it so far, I have doubled the amount of my client's budget. They realize that the bigger the better. I work with fine materials and it's worth the extra investment to make the piece shine in their walls. It's very convenience! For them and for me!
I barely even had to do anything, as soon as my clients saw their photos on their wall, they ordered exactly what they saw!
I have to say... I'd always OFFERED canvases, but it wasn't until I started using Preveal that I started actually SELLING them. Now I sell at least one per client, no joke!
Really helped client visualize on her walls - did it at her home. She was wowed! Over $2500
3 large canvas' prints and one large wall print.
My first sale more than doubled my previous average sale, but even more importantly I feel like I was able to give my client a highly personalized experience designed around their style and deliver something that went above and beyond their expectations!
My client instantly loved the canvas cluster I presented and bought a collection and used the credit to purchase the canvases. It only took the first preview!
I purchased the Preveal black friday sale and made over 6 canvass sales in less than 48 hours! Wow, talk about an amazing product!
My sales were averaging less than $100 a person! I decided to take action and purchase Preveal for my iPad. I loaded it up and (without any samples in hand) went to the local coffee shop for my first ever in person sale. 45 minutes later I had sold $1300 in product - including a 16x24" canvas - because the 8x10 she originally wanted really didn't fill up the wall space as envisioned! THANK YOU PREVEAL!
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I used Preveal to facilitate the selection of the groupings that they loved, and they really appreciated being able to see how the images would look. In the end, the sale was my largest of the year and more than paid for the app plus the iPad. This app has greatly enhanced by customers' experience. I cannot thank you enough!
The 1st sale I had after purchasing the app was amazing! My clients had me design multiple walls after seeing the 1st set I made for them. It was great to see their excitement over seeing images on THEIR wall. All they bought was clusters. This app is a game changer for me.
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Metaphorical musings using fragments of science and applicaton of layman logic systems, will not explain evolution to you. A comprehensive course on biological sciences is necessary for that.
If you claim one can't understand evolution as science presents it to laymen, on what grounds do you defend it before you manage to really understand it and become able to answer to laymen's questions who have taken the time to study it, at least at the level of the afficionado? (This is not an attack to mlai, whose posts are usually really intelligent and fun to read- this is a general thought I wanted to share)
I have heard this often when science is used to offer a conundrum or comes up to a contesting of what is now considered 'The Truth' about everything and anything. If modern science can't explain it, then we say 'it's because you don't know ALL science, or you are a layman'.
However in all matters of education and knowledge, there exists one principle: If you can't explain it to your grandmother in very simple terms, you are missing something- or you at least have not understood it well yet.
Otherwise it sounds like the old (and bad) school teacher scrunching up his face and saying: 'Don't ask stupid questions, boy'.
So I would like either people to accept the scientific questions of another person without downputting it as 'bastard science' when they feel it most comfortable to suit their own views and ideas, just like they demand the same to be done when science speaks for their aforementioned views.
Otherwise it is just a double standard that seems to be making an appearance here- or a cop out. If you feel something is left out from the scientific approach by someone, go ahead research and present it. If you can't be bothered or you don't know where to find it or if you can't find it, I think it would be best if you just acknowledged the fact with a post like: 'Good point. I'm sure there is an explanation for it, and I still don't believe you despite the evidence you present to me, but I will wait until the scientists prove me right before I put you down or dismiss you altogether.'
Wouldn't that be fairer?


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Levi (full name Leviathai), Sage of Water, is seemingly the last sage on the chart to be born. Having a bubbly personality, she almost seems hyperactive but altogether, quite cute. Being that she is the youngest of the sages, she doesn't really have much of a past to talk about since nothing extreme has ever really happened to her.
In her young innocents she is deeply in love with Ying (Guardian of Hell's Gate). "How can that be?" You might be asking
Well, she's just too young to know better XD. Even though Ying is obviously too old and has noted that he has no feelings towards her, she is the only sage who changes the satyrs attitude to a tolerant level. For an odd reason Ying is very understandable towards the water sage, despite how much he acts like he does not care for her appearance.
With a hippie-like persona she has a save-the-world fight about her and is often quite stressed when faced with negative energy. On regular bases she just loves everyone!
Levi looks up to her older brother Rowen (Sage of Dreams) and is often by his side like any child who plays shadow to a respectable role model. She loves her mother (Edel Sage of Time) and father (Halios The Overseer) dearly but feels that she is a bother in their presence. She does not realize that her real father is Poseidon, King of the sea. In feelings she does not understand she is constantly drawn to the ocean. Poseidon showers her with many gifts and spoils her as any father who holds their daughter highly would. Though the two have met many times, he never reveals the secret of his mistress.
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In many side role plays and even various times of the real manga the sages can often be found chilling at her beach house. She too has ONE transformation, a power given from her father, to turn into the largest beast of the sea, a Leviathan (hence her name Levi)


text: Ok enough is enough, I'm so feed up & annoyed with this product!. After weeks of trying to get this all working and finally succeeding the first time the Server goes down for a reboot it BREAKS! for no reason at all, there is nothing on port110 this is now the only server running in this office. I've re-installed at least 12 times with the same results!. After brining the server back up in its new cabinet we were going to go over to the NE edition, the server has now been down a WEEK now, My boss will tell me where to go if I mention Zimbra to him again! so it looks like I've lost a good opportunity to show what open source can do for our company, and i can see the MS Exchange box being powered back up shortly. In the mean time I'll check Scalix or whatever else is available.


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Shopping list apps on your phone can help save you lots of time and money at the grocery store. And let's face it, we've all been here: You get home from the grocery store, you put everything away and then it hits you – everything you forgot to get suddenly comes to mind. Or maybe you just went to the store to pick up a couple items, but you leave with a cart full of things you might not need. For me at least, making a grocery list is crucial. Lists help to make sure that I walk out of the grocery store with only the stuff I need. But who uses a pen and paper nowadays? To help you save money and time while grocery shopping, here are the top grocery list apps you can get for your phone.
Grocery IQ
Grocery IQ is a free app that integrates couponing, so you can see what items are on sale before you shop to save money. The app features a vast database from which you can choose your list items, and it also shows you what's on sale. You can also keep track of your grocery list history, so you can easily create similar lists each week. This app includes a barcode scanner and voice command. If you share lists with others in your family, you can synch it across your devices.
Grocery List Free (Shopping List)
This shopping list app has been rated with 4+ stars in the Apple App Store. This app automatically groups your grocery items by color to organize your list better. With a built-in dictionary, you can create your shopping lists faster, and the dictionary will remember the unique things that you buy. While you're creating your list, several autofill suggestions based on the first few letters that you type will appear for a faster process. There's also a paid version of this app with a few more features, like list sharing.
This comes in a free version and a full version for $2.99 in the Apple App Store. It features a stylish design and calculates the total cost of your groceries (including tax). This app also allows you to create lists based on recipes. You can share your shopping lists by email and manage multiple lists at the same time. You can also synch across all of your devices.
This app allows you to reuse grocery lists and share them with other people in your family. Barcode scan is available to make sure that you pick up exactly the right items. Another cool feature of this app is that you can put pictures in your list. You can create multiple lists and compare prices for various stores. To help save more money, this app features eCoupons that helps you to match your list to available store coupons.
This free app is similar to the others – it offers synching capabilities with other devices, list sharing, and it has a wide database from which to choose your groceries. A handy feature is the way it categorizes your groceries by type so you aren't running back to aisles you already went through. Recipe suggestions are another cool thing about this app; they allow you to add groceries to your list right from the recipe.
Grocery lists mean less time wasted and fewer trips back to the store. When you know what you need, you're less likely to buy more than that – helping you save money. Let us know if you have a favorite app for your grocery list.
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This section of our web site includes everything homeowners need to know about safe digging, including what information you'll need to provide when you call, how O.U.P.S. members respond to your request, and a list of contract locators available to mark those privately installed lines and more.
By law, everyone — including homeowners — MUST contact the Ohio Utilities Protection Service, 8-1-1 or 1-800-362-2764, at least 48 hours but no more than 10 working days (excluding weekends and legal holidays) or enter it online with e-dig Ticket Entry the easy online dig request for homeowners, before beginning ANY digging on their property. Think your project's too small? It's best to call!
ORC Sec. 3781.28. (A) Except as otherwise provided in divisions (C), (D), (E), and (F)of this section, at least forty-eight hours but not more than ten working days before commencing excavation, the excavator shall notify a protection service of the location of the excavation site and the date on which excavation is planned to commence.
*Please note that the Ohio Revised Code defines excavator as "the person or persons responsible for making the actual excavation" (ORC Sec. 3781.25 (K)). Therefore, while O.U.P.S.will not refuse a ticket from any caller, we advise the actual excavator place the call to O.U.P.S., receive their own ticket number and wait the required 48 hours in order to be compliant with Ohio law.*


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News: Chinese Heroes Who Saved British Servicemen In 1942 To Visit Britain
Published 25 August 2011, 17:17
Four local Chinese fishermen who, as young men, rescued Allied prisoners of war who survived of the sinking of the Lisbon Maru on 1 October 1942, are to visit the United Kingdom, writes Martin Mace.
On Christmas Day 1941, the Governor of Hong Kong, Sir Mark Young, surrendered the British colony to the Japanese. Some 10,000 soldiers became prisoners of war, of whom more than 5,000 were British.
In September the following year 1,816 of the British prisoners were selected for shipment to Japan to act as slave labour. Along with 778 officers and men of the Japanese army, on 27 September they were embarked upon a requisitioned cargo ship, the Lisbon Maru, bound for Tokyo. The prisoners were placed in the ships three holds, each containing around 600 men. No.1 Hold, forward, mainly held sailors of the Royal Navy and some infantry. The prisoners in No.2 Hold, amidships, were mainly from the Royal Scots, and those locked in No.3 Hold, aft, were mainly from the Royal Artillery. Contrary to international convention the Lisbon Maru carried no markings to indicate that it was carrying PoWs.
On 1 October 1942, as the ships route took it to the sea off Dongji (Qingbang Island), Zhoushan, China, the Lisbon Maru was hit by no less than five torpedoes from the American submarine USS Grouper. The ship immediately began to take on water but rather than allow the prisoners to come on deck the Japanese tried to contain the PoWs (claiming that it was too difficult to control such a large number of men) by battening down the hatches.
The Lisbon Maru limped on with water still leaking into the holds, the prisoners taking it in turns to man the pumps, some apparently dying of exhaustion in the cramped, fetid conditions. It was not until early the next day, 2 October, that the ship finally began to sink, with several Japanese destroyers arriving to take off the Japanese troops. As the Lisbon Maru was going down some of the PoWs managed to organise a break-out, but were shot at by Japanese soldiers as they jumped for their lives into the sea.
Local Chinese fishermen, watching from the shore as the horror of this tragedy unfolded, immediately took to their flimsy fishing boats and, undaunted by the Japanese rifle fire, rushed out to save as many of the PoWs as they could and took them to their homes. At the time China and Japan were at war and the Chinese knew that they were risking severe reprisals for their actions. Altogether 1,006 of the original 1,834 on board survived the tragedy; 384 had been saved by the fishermen.
The Japanese troops went to the island to track down and arrest the British prisoners, the vast majority of whom were caught and returned to captivity. Despite the Japanese search, three British men, Johnstone, Evans and Fallace, were hidden by the local fishermen and eventually escaped via Chongqing and returned to the UK.
Four of the Chinese fishermen are still alive, now in their 90s, and two of them will visit the United Kingdom in 2012. Their visit will be hosted by Major Brian Finch who served with the Middlesex Regiment, men from the 1st battalion of which were on the Lisbon Maru.
Major Finch is intending to walk from coast to coast across Devon along the 117-mile Two Moors Way in October 2011 to raise money for these heroes of the Second World War. The money raised by the walk will go to the Lisbon Maru Association, based in Hong Kong, which works to keep alive the memory of this tragedy and helps to support some of the surviving fishermen.
For more information or to assist with sponsorship, please visit: www.wix.com/bfinch/walkforwarheroes
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