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possible to hit confirm with j.hp or air target alone since it's multiple hits. (you
can visually see/hear if the opponent is blocking or not)
Overhead combos:
Counter/Reversal combos:
Anti-Air combos:
Air-to-Air combos:
Post-Launch ender:
Post-Switch ender:
Possible links for hit confirming:
1. cs.mp, s.lp (this one is all you really need to practice)
2. cs.mp, cr.lp
3. cs.mp, s.lk
4. cs.mp, cr.lk
5. s.lp, s.lp
6. s.lp, cr.lp
7. s.lp, s.lk
8. cr.lk (ch), cr.lk
9. s.lk (ch), s.lk
10. cs.mp (ch), cr.mk (great for counter hit hunting because cr.mk can combo into Windmill unlike lights)
Mid-range buffers:
1. s.lk xx s.hp xx Launcher
2. s.lk xx s.mk xx EX PB / EX Windmill
3. s.lk xx s.mk xx EX SUS xx switch
4. cr.mp xx Windmill xx switch
5. s.mk xx HP Gehosen / MK PB
You should punish things with (fastest to slowest):
1. cr.lp/s.lk xx boost/HP Gehosen (4f)
2. EX Windmill or Super (6f)
3. cr.mk xx HP Gehosen/Windmill (7f)
4. s.mk xx HP xx Gehosen/Windmill (8f)
5. Cross-Art (8f)
6. cr.hp xx Launcher (11f?)
7. Flea to Sling Headbutt, s.mk xx Windmill xx switch / HP Gehosen / Launcher (17f)
8. Windmill xx switch (18f)
9. j.hp, s.mk xx Windmill/EX Suicide xx switch (for long recovery moves like raw tags)
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Dibs on Rufus.
No worries, I understand that a lot of you guys want to wait until 2013. It's fine with me. :PUnless others want to make them I can totally do one for Paul and also Bob, Guy, and Poison down the line unless better minds step up. Great idea and I'd love to contribute, but I'm gonna wait until 2013 drops for a week rather than edit the crap out of it/change it completely.
Heck I could do a lot if in a long time characters are still undone. I'm more into collecting info and sharing it then really playing myself so count me in. Course with 2013 I plan to become a competent player, but eh.
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How can I copy each individual post? IE, get the link for each individual post.Oh and a suggestion for organization, take it or leave it, would be to have the character entries in topics in their own subforums and the main post of this topic having hyperlinks to all the completed ones. Otherwise as the posts count up here it might be hard to easily find a certain character's post especially if they are mentioned in other character bios for reference/comparison.
You could also make each Bio post start off with a certain tag to make it easier to ctrlF. Hell that is probably better. Like, "Xchristie," or anything.
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By all means, feel free to do one for Vega as well.Ibuki reserve. I should do one for Vega as well.
I was going to contribute but then I realized it was a bit pointless since both Yoshimitsu and Christie are going to change way too much in a few days. So I'll just wait before doing this kind of thing.
Post reserved I guess. I'll edit this once 2013 drops.
This is why I thought NO ONE would be doing this until 2013 dropped. The flavor texts could be rendered invalid simply due to relative worth changes caused by changes to everyone else.
Edit@Intuitive: I always felt Ryu's Super Art is still just as versatile as Metsu Hadoken was in SF4. (Putting it in combos still requires 2-3 bars of meter in almost all situations though). Still should count as a plus for him, since its high versatility can help with team synergy.
I'll be honest, I rarely ever use his SA. Unless it's for specific punishes which couldn't be achieved through his normals. I feel for two bars he can do more damage without it. Do you use it much in combos?
Look at my first post, I've got it covered. Nobody is submitting information at a rate that I can't handle.Just a suggestion, but once the majority of the cast gets written up, you might wanna create a new thread, copy/paste everything over and reserve spots for any characters without writeups. Even if everything is in one thread it can be a hassle to find when you've gotta sift through random posts to find what you're looking for.
To gain an account for the wiki you have to be approved. This is a lot more friendly and quick. Plus, more people visit the sub forums then they do the wiki. Ideally, I'd like this to get stickied and after that, perhaps, we as a community could work on the wiki.I'm surprised no one has mentioned this, but this is exactly what the wiki is for. Maybe we should be modifying that too?
Most of the DLC characters don't even have a page on the sfxt wiki.
So much work for so little damage, seriously I pick her up in a weekly rhythm (Heeeyy why don't you try Juri) just to drop her like the crazy
no dmgbitch she is
My character was Zangief. Sentenced to death on 29th January.
RIP GeeefFriend, Patriot, Philosopher2012-2012
Yeah that wiki is pretty damn important. I can attest that I learned KoFXIII and picked my first main characters so much more quickly than SFxT because of the brief but useful knowledge in its wiki here.
Also if you want to help as many people as you can, far more people peruse the home page area of srk than bother to make accounts or go into forums.
ALSO it kinda reflects poorly on the sfxt community that the wikis on srk and character data on eventhubs have been virtually untouched since launch. Kinda makes a game seem, I dunno, dead if the players appear not to find anything worth telling the world since April.
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My character was Zangief. Sentenced to death on 29th January.
RIP GeeefFriend, Patriot, Philosopher2012-2012
My character was Zangief. Sentenced to death on 29th January.
RIP GeeefFriend, Patriot, Philosopher2012-2012
Burning in the bowels of hell for eternity! She's so beyond dead her existence was wiped from everyones' memory.You think Zangief is dead? What does that make Ibuki...?
Strengths: Footsies, rushdown, pressure, mix-ups, okizeme, defense, team dynamics
Weaknesses: Varying damage output, lack of 3f attacks, most people can't spell or pronounce his name
Best partners: Julia, Alisa
Raw tag punish:
FLA MK>LK>f, FLA MP>MP>f, FLA HK xx dp+HP xx hcb+LP, dp+HP xx dp+HK (415) - new in ver.2013
FLA MP-HK xx qcb+KK, j.HK, cr.MP xx qcb+HK (492; 1 bar)
cr.LP-st.MK>MK>HK xx qcb+HK (252)
cr.LP-st.MK>MK>HK xx qcb+KK, j.HK, cr.MP xx qcb+HK (377; 1 bar)
st.LK>MK>f, FLA MK>LK>df, cr.LP-st.MK>MK>HK xx qcb+HK (308)
Overhead combos:
f+MK>f, FLA MP>MP>f, FLA HK xx dp+HP xx hcb+LP, dp+HP xx dp+HK (406) - new in ver.2013
f+HK, FLA MP>MP>f, dp+HP xx dp+HK (335)
Anti-air and air-to-air combos:
FLA HK xx dp+HP xx hcb+P, dp+HP xx dp+HK (290) - new in ver.2013
FLA HK xx hcb+[P]>f~f, cr.MP xx qcb+HK (270) - new in ver.2013
CH st.MP, cr.HK (165)
CH j.LP>MP, st.HK xx qcb+HK (287)
Tag-in juggles:
cr.MP, cr.MP xx qcb+HK
st.HK xx qcb+HK
st.HK xx hcb+P, dp+HP xx dp+HK - new in ver.2013
st.MK>MK>df, st.HK xx qcb+HK
st.MP>MP xx hcb+[P]>f~f, cr.MP xx qcb+HK
FLA MP>MP>f, dp+HP xx dp+HK
FLA MK>LK>df, st.HK xx qcb+HK
j.HK, cr.MP/st.HK xx qcb+HK
j.HK, st.MP>MP xx qcb+HK
j.HK, FLA MK>LK xx qcb+HK
j.HK, st.HK xx hcb+[P]>f~f, cr.MP xx qcb+HK
I say go Elena, but for selfish reasons as I'm interested in trying her out post patchDamn, whether to do Julia or Elena or Vega... WHY MUST YOU MAKE ME CHOOSE?!
Please tell me how I would update the wiki if I don't have permission to do so. I honestly don't know how to get around that. o_OYou guys really should put the effort into the wiki instead. With all this work the sfxt wiki here ironically can be more fulfilling than the other contemporary ones.
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You just register for an account and wait a few days for it to get approved.Please tell me how I would update the wiki if I don't have permission to do so. I honestly don't know how to get around that. o_O
You guys really should put the effort into the wiki instead. With all this work the sfxt wiki here ironically can be more fulfilling than the other contemporary ones.
You just register for an account and wait a few days for it to get approved.
What would be half assed? I mean it would be very few people contributing to the wiki. They could just pass over the information there. I am not implying every single person sign up to try and get accounts to put up things there individually.I'm all for adding to the Wiki, most of them become horribly out of date too fast, and the forums collect so much unorganized information.
But I also think this topic is a great idea as well, if used to collect info for the wiki. Use it as a collective database of up to date info for all the characters. Why not collect data here, edit it up and format it so it looks good, and once characters are in an acceptable state add to the wiki?
Compared to the character-specific forums, the info posted here could be more clear and concise, because some character forums are much better organized than others, and you normally need to sift through dozens of combos to find the ones that are most optimized or practical/easy to perform. This post could solve those problems and once approved bring it on over to wiki.
I for one would prefer complete info rather than half-assed info on the wiki.


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Celebrating all things mustached, Mustachio Bashio has been central in helping Community Servings accomplish its mission to provide nutritious meals for individuals who are too sick to shop or cook for themselves. Each year Community Servings prepares and delivers more than 500,000 medically tailored meals to over 1,800 clients, 93 percent of whom live in poverty.
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Keren, 28 December 2012 – The inhabitants of Anseba-Lemecheli area, Anseba region, have lauded the commendable transportation service being rendered along the newly built road in the locality, which has become a basis for expanding socio-economic activities. They voiced their appreciation at a meeting they held with the Administrator of Anseba region, Mr. Gergis Girmai, during which he indicated that such accomplishment attests to the government's commitment to promote rural development.
The participants of the meeting explained that they used to lead a taxing style of living due to lack of reliable transportation facility, and that they are presently in a position to even engage in transporting their agricultural and other products to other localities.
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Organizers mobilized again for immigration rallies in the streets of major U.S. cities, but they failed to draw the same groundswell of support this year for a May 1 protest that last year drew well over 1 million. In Los Angeles 25,000 mostly Hispanics turned out where over 500,000 had come a year before. Many stayed away for fear of having their photos taken and being fingered for deportation. In the first six months of 2007 U.S. immigration officials deported 125,400-up from approximately 98,000 the previous year.
With the May 19 release of a Senate proposal for comprehensive immigration reform, members of both parties predicted that the much-anticipated legislation would pass overwhelmingly and the illegal-immigrant dilemma be solved. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, foreseeing little resistance, outlined plans for a vote before the Memorial Day recess.
But stiff criticism did not take long to surface-needing only enough time for special-interest groups and lawmakers on both left and right to read the 325-page draft. By May 21, the first day of Senate debate, the bill was under assault. At Miami's Parrot Jungle Island, Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean told immigrant supporters the reform bill was "insane" because it would require many illegal immigrants to return home before applying for citizenship: "This is a government that can't find a 6-foot-4 terrorist. How is it going to find 12 million people?"
With both parties divided over what to do with the nation's 12 million illegals, state and local governments bearing the burden of illegals began to take action. Eleven states considered or passed measures cracking down on illegals, with Oklahoma's the toughest. Its May law denies illegal immigrants state identification and requires all state and local agencies to verify that applicants for public benefits are American citizens. Hispanic evangelical churches in the state said they lost over 10 percent of their membership after the law passed-underscoring the dilemma and the divide for church groups and politicians when it comes to actually cracking down on illegals.
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WASHINGTON (USA Today) -- President Obama is expected to invite Sen. John McCain to the White House to help sell to Congress the idea of a U.S. military intervention in Syria.
Members of Congress in both parties said they would not be able to support the current draft of a resolution authorizing Obama to launch a military strike.
- Secretary of State John Kerry said on news programs Sunday that the U.S. has received hair and blood samples that have "tested positive for signatures of sarin," a deadly nerve agent first developed in Germany in the 1930s.
- Lawmakers in France are to be shown a declassified report on Syria's chemical weapons to back up France's claim that the Assad regime was responsible for the attack.
- China said it is opposed to the U.S. acting alone in Syria and thinks any response must conform to the U.N. Charter and the basic principles underlying international relations.
- Britain's Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg ruled out another vote in Parliament over action in Syria. Speaking to the BBC on Monday, Clegg said he could not "foresee any circumstances" under which MPs could be asked to vote again after rejecting a motion for a military strike last week. Clegg's comments came after London Mayor Boris Johnson said a new vote could take place if new and "better" evidence emerged.
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Oil Set to Rocket
Some of us stopped believing in fairytales long ago and then there were those that never thought that Goldilocks ate anybody's porridge. So, there are two types of believers. Those that did and now don't anymore because they have grown up and those that never ever did have the wool pulled over their eyes. It's the same with the economy these days. Either you believed that it was getting better and listened to the propaganda emanating from the once-hallowed portals of the statist politik bureau of the government or you never believed a word of what got spun by the spinners and the media-controlling decision-makers that are there to eat your porridge and sit in your chairs (even lie in your beds). The latter have always thought it was all just a load of old Tom Cobbley from the start.
So is the economy getting better or is it a fairytale dream?
Who knows the answer to that question today? Well, if we believe the International Energy Agency (IEA), then the economy is getting better around the world since oil consumption is increasing. It has been forecast to increase and will outstrip even shale oil production which is most certainly taking off in the USA today and is set to do the same elsewhere (in the UK, for example). Whether we believe the IEA is another matter entirely, but it is the organization that advises the largest energy-consuming countries in the world on their policies regarding energy consumption and production.
• The IEA has just increased it forecast of demand for oil from OPEC countries by 200k barrels per day, now standing at a total of 29.4m barrels per day.
• It has also stated that this year oil consumption should increase by 1.3m barrels per day.
• The US is forecast to increase oil production by 780, 000 barrels per day by the end of 2014.
• This increase offset the drops due to civil unrest in Libya (sometimes falls in production of up to 10% were being experienced).
• There were also drops in production from Iran as sanctions were still being imposed (a drop of 320, 000 barrels per day; although the drop was largely reversed towards the end of the year with the warming of relations with Iran).
• The US mainly benefited from that fall in production by upping their own levels.
• Not only has there been a rise in the projected level of production for 2014, but this will consolidate last year's increase of 990, 000 extra barrels per day being produced in the USA in 2013.
• That was one of the largest annual growth rates for the country.
Demand for oil has increased so much over the past few months in the world that the reserves have been almost depleted and OPEC will have to pump more in order to keep up with the growing rate of demand. Oil stocks in the Western world are reported as having plummeted by 53.6 million barrels last November. That is the highest level of depletion since 2011.
Brent crude oil is trading at $107 today. That's just lower than the $108.70 it was trading at in 2013. In 2012, it was at the $111 mark. Are we in for another increase in oil this year? If we are to believe the IEA, we are. Oil is set to rise.
Whatever happens in the future and whether the economy takes a turn for the better (finally, some might hasten to add), we might just well read behind the lines and see the true meaning of the fairytale that is being spun. Fairytales are intended to teach us something. This one tells us that when the closing lines are called, the same old people will be reaping the benefits. The oil companies will be raking it in as the price of all goes sky-high. Once upon a time, we were surprised when good old Texas Tea hit $100 a barrel. Now, it doesn't even wake Goldilocks up from her sleep.
And they lived happily ever after?
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One constant no matter technological innovation, substitute or renewable sources, new discoveries or supply/demand fluctuations is that the marginal cost of each barrel of crude oil produced increases every year. Therefore future prices will rise! Only other scenario is complete global economic collapse--- has not happened yet, but a possibility considering our political/economic experiment into debt fantasy !
The emergency Oil in storage, was a great idea.....then the markets used it as a tool to profit.
Now the Bankers require this money flow, as the reserve oil supply is part of a profit formula.
Why didn't the USA and backed by their Military tell the third world that the Oil in the world was spoken for, How dare they use it.
Up or down, one could say you have a 50/50 chance of being correct.
That being said, WTI Oil weekly shows current price near channel support - intraday having broken support
Upside? Unlikely. Not mentioned are the US/Euro effect which also have a bearish effect on oil prices
The OPEC cartel has administered high prices for many years making high cost recovery resources profitable and rapid industrial expansions have increased demand. The laws of economics always balance supply and demand. What really moderated OPEC during the seventies was the rapid expansion of nuclear power changing the energy supply and easing our dependence on their oil in the long term. Fukashima was the result of bad management not any intrinsic flaw in nuclear power generation. New plants are being built and more are planned around the world. Natural disasters can be anticipated and planned for. At the very least they could have installed the diesel back up emergency generators and fuel 60 feet higher and back from the sea. This would not have been a budget breaker.
You are right that the Fukushima site was grossly mismanaged. However, the intrinsic flaw in nuclear power generation is that it doesn't allow for mismanagement. If the costs of inevitable human error were included in the design calculations, these reactors could not be built. Therefore, they should not be built.
it may be not so much that they deliberately tell porkies but it seems they don't have a particularly good track record regarding forecasting?
Will the International Energy Agency's oil forecast be wrong again?
Oil consumption is increasing else where in the world such as Asia such as China, SouthEast Asia. If you recall China is in the middle of inflationary episode right now where huge amount of money creation, and excess credit. Not so much in the US.
Baltic Index is plunging ... world recession ... discretionary spending is sinking fast .. the only people moving are foreigners moving to America, Americans are too poor to move .. and so on ...I don't see oil rising for awhile but it's a good long term play if you can grab something like USO (and etf) for under 30 and look at holding it for a year or two o r longer. My target buy is 28.
Same with HAL and SLB, etc..they are overpriced but when they fall back 30% or so, then will be a buying time.
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Economists have been puzzled about why the latest recession produced such a feeble recovery, but here's one important new clue: The portion of Americans moving from place to place has fallen close to record lows, inhibiting people's ability to go where the good jobs are or remake themselves in one place after flaming out in another.
Most everything I have read indicates that the shale oil boom is a surge not a solution. The depletion rates in these fields look like they are going to push peak production out to 2016 or 2017. Then the relentless decline begins again. The decline rates in mature fields are sobering. The status quo may be able to hold on for another three to five years but every time we get a peak in production things begin to unravel pretty quickly. Debt cannot be repaid in a contracting system. Everybody knows that. The nervous are eyeing the exit. Greed is keeping people in the game but in a flash it will turn into a mad rush for the door.
Oil has fluctuated in this range since 2009. Nothing more than the criminals wanting their fair share. Just ask the cokehead brothers.
Makes cents.... Miles driven at 20 year lows.....makes cents
Miles driven IN THE USA are at lows, not everywhere else. Oil bears suffer from a mistaken Amero-centric viewpoint.
Price Discovery, er, margin requirement adjustments, will solve everything.
One Important issue that may impact all this: Global Recession.
The US is likely going to double/triple dip this year because of Obamacare, and CRE, and terrible Retail sales. China is getting topsy as people are now taking out loans with 30% to 40% interest rates in a vain attempt to postpone the day or reckoning. Growth in the developing world has stalled and unemployment in the EU continues to rise. If we have a global recession than its likely to send energy prices lower.
Unless we have a 2008 event.
What if its so bad the governments nationalize all the oil production, and then like Venezuela, all the hi-tech producers quit and leave ? Then its all stuck in the ground and supply dwindles. Demand remains. Then POO skyrockets, and we all ride our bikes to work and wear sweaters.
If things collapse then it all stays in the ground.
Unless there are hi-tech slaves....
Do you guys factor in margin debt and qe into your analysis? Cheap debt doesnt equate improving economy. Imo this is a desperate attempt at keeping the world on life support. Home ownership in the usa is at levels not seen since the 70's while living costs are rising for core goods.


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With the marine layer hovering above the grounds and San Francisco's steep hills in the backdrop until mid-morning, Woods surgically worked his way through the course. He holed a 45-foot birdie putt on the par-4 fifth, giving a small fist pump and bringing the gallery roaring to its feet the way only he can.
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Mary Gallagher Stout: Hi! I am Mary Gallagher Stout. Today, we are here at the Lorton Workhouse, in my studio, creating a stony lion. Now we are at the point where we are going to be putting in our shadows. So I usually work from dark to light, so thats why we are doing our shadows first. You can do it either way but this is the way I do it. So lets get started.
For my darkest color, I am going to use a mixture of Jenkins green and a very deep purple. I dont like to use black because it tends to die on the canvas, it just lays flat and it doesnt bring anything to our palette. So thats why I dont use it. You are more than welcome to use black but I dont. So thats the mixture we are using, its a 50/50 blend of Jenkins green and deep purple.
So I am going to go in and where I see all the darks thats where I am going to put my dark. So like his nose, filling his nose. His nose is very dark, so I am filling in his nose. Thats where all your sketch information comes in because if you didnt keep your information there, you wouldnt have it to create your dimension and detail of all these geometry of -- you need it to help develop the geometry so it actually looks like a lion. Now if you are very unhappy with the way you sketch, its really not a problem because all you need to do is know how to trace things. What you can do is you can purchase a projector and project your image right on to the wall and simply trace it on your paper that you want it on. So you dont even really need to sketch, but I would suggest when you are doing something with stone that you should pick a subject that might be in stone, like a gargoyle or a Greek goddess or something architectural. So I am just going to fill in all of my darks.
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The Board of Regents will decide on the Jack Trice Phase II tomorrow. Here is the link which includes information about all the capital improvement projects like Jack Trice and the new Recreation Facilities.
Check Pages 1 and 6.
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I thought they were meeting on the 30th
All Jamie is asking to permission to see what it would cost and have the numbers crunched right? He is not asking for any state money right?
Won't he have to find out how to pay for it, get the designs and information ready to go back to the BOR for another meeting? This is probably were we get to see drawings hopefully.
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The addition of an upper deck to the south end zone provides an opportunity to increase capacity to the stadium and the present value of projected cash inflow from increased ticket revenues exceeds the construction costs necessary to add that component to the stadium. Addition of the upper deck concurrent with the rest of the south end zone provides significant cost savings as opposed to adding it at a later date. This excess cash flow is an important factor in the universitys ability to service the debt associated with Phase 2.
It sounds like fundraising is going pretty good.
Originally Posted by Cyclone711
I thought they were meeting on the 30th
Might wanna check today's date...
Wednesday, 30 April 2008
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They are Meeting on the 30th and the 1st. Today they are going over basic housekeeping. Tomorrow they will dive into the projects.
Pollard just wants approval to proceed. All money will be paid for by donation, ticket sales, etc. No state money will be requested.
I think that pretty much ends thoughts of enclosing the endzone and then waiting for the second level. It's all going up at one time. Just my opinion, but I'm betting sooner rather than later. Why else would Pollard even bother to bring this to the BOR?
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Originally Posted by jdoggivjc
Might wanna check today's date...
Wednesday, 30 April 2008
? did you mean to quote him? Because I knew it was the 30th and he said the meeting would be tomorrow when it said he posted today.
Did anyone noticed where it said '2008 dollars'? Sounds to me like they want to get this rolling after this season.
I'm a bit curious to know if, and when this is going to be completed? and how many additional seats would be put in?
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maybe I'm reading too much into the document, but it mentions more "premium seating" - all suites between 2 decks? or???
on a side note: wow... from Cyclone711's signature pic, Chizik is one serious dude....
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on a side note: wow... from Cyclone711's signature pic, Chizik is one serious dude....
That is what I thought also. I wouldn't want to be his daughter's first boyfriend. Could you imagine being some 16 year boy from Gilbert walking in to Chizik's house to take his daughter out and you see that face? Chizik would probably have 2 coaches and 3 linebackers monitoring you the whole night.
Originally Posted by Cardinal&Gold11
I'm a bit curious to know if, and when this is going to be completed? and how many additional seats would be put in?
I second that, does anyone know what Jack Trice will seat when the proposed project is completed?
I wonder if they are thinking about creating more suites on the east side like they did with the west side. I can't image having a suite in the Student Section though.
I'm also curious on where they will put the video-board. They will almost have to put it in front of Jacobson, or above it.
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Give Kay a good culinary mystery and she'll figure it out—whether it's a book downloaded to Kindle or identifying a food trend just over the horizon. She's the voice behind much of the work on foodchannel.com, where we not only develop recipes but also cook up many of our digital and social media strategies as an agency. She holds an M.A. in Integrated Marketing and is considered an expert in strategic planning and digital marketing for government, business and the not-for-profit worlds.
Keith Acuff
Chief Executive Officer
Keith oversees the leadership of our communications company and supports our two agency presidents in Springfield and Chicago by providing best-in-class resources to grow our clients' businesses. When not at work, his awesome coaching skills help his youth basketball team play well together too.
Ken Taylor
Account Manager
A construction nerd at heart, Ken has helped drive home and building brands to success for over 12 years. He has his hand in everything from building sets for photo shoots, to launching the latest big idea in the construction industry. When Ken's not busy building brands, or remodeling his house, he is chasing one of his 4 kids. Thank goodness for coffee.
Kirk Banasik
VP, Account Service
As an eternal optimist, Kirk not only believes that loyal brand consumers can help create sustainable revenue growth; he also believes in the Chicago Cubs. Kirk can't do much for his beloved Cubbies, but he can help you create powerful brands through the use of proven brand-building principles…and you don't have to 'wait until next year'.
Leslie Hutter
SVP, Insights and Strategy
During her 20-plus years at Noble, Leslie's unique strategic planning skills helped establish Noble as a successful brand-building agency. Her ongoing leadership in helping teams understand consumer insights continues to make our clients' brands grow. She also led the team of cultural investigators and insight analysts that invented CultureWaves™. All that while being a parent of two sets of twins! Does she know how to manage challenges? In a word—yes!
Locke Hilderbrand
Insights Manager, CultureWaves
Locke's day-to-day life is about mixing dualities, finding relevance and mapping out the next big thing. He spends his time watching over pop-culture and keeping an eye out for behavior patterns, all an effort to make his clients look smarter and well ahead of the curve. Somewhere between being a culture scout, an online activist, a gamer, and a retronaut; he enjoys sleeping—when the duality permits.
Maggie McKeon
Art Director
Maggie McKeon, Digital Designer/Art Director, represents the next generation of Internet conceptualists, integrating technology and artistry. With her art degree from the University of Wisconsin at Madison she went on to work for several Chicago firms before joining Noble Chicago, perfecting all forms of web deign, from flash to mobile apps, supporting client categories including sports, food and public transit. She's a great listener, when she's not a music producer — electric guitar mostly.
Maren Woodlock
VP, Media Director
Maren has spent her entire media career in agencies both big and small, in media only companies, and ten years on the client side as Director of Advertising Services. Her leadership comes from her passion. She loves media because it's never the same, never boring, always growing—like the organic garden she also loves. She spends her off media hours raising, cooking and canning wonderful goodies from that garden.
Michael Jensen
VP, Group Account Director
As director of Noble's Services practice – whether financial services, 3D printing, mass transit or other services industries – Michael is a master of leading teams in helping to solve clients' marketing problems. His insistence on delivering results doesn't diminish his lifelong passion for the Chicago Cubs; and often in the summer you'll find him commiserating with his fellow fans at Wrigley Field, just a mile from his home.
Nancy Banasik
SVP, Account Planning
Early morning hot yoga boot camp isn't for everyone—but that's how Nancy likes to start her day. Then she moves on to two more of her passions: positioning brands and research. Oh, and not to be overlooked. She loves the adventure and thrill of the hunt for the biggest and best creative idea. Zen and killer instinct. She lives her life with that rare balance of both.
Richard Pitman
VP, Management Supervisor
A true Southerner, his energy and hospitality roots show with exceeding client expectation and what drives such strong partnerships with his client service and business development roles. A 25 year marketing veteran, he has worked in every food channel on both the client and agency side. From research and field marketing with Hardee's to brand merchandising with Oscar Mayer. Later in foodservice and retail promotional marketing and national accounts sales with Kraft, before business development and marketing standards with Aramark. At Noble Richard leads the food practice in Chicago, with client service on accounts like Smith & Wollensky, Potbelly, Lightblocks and Kraft.
Ron Pike
SVP, Creative Director
Ron has worked on many accounts including Behr Paint, Gerber, AGC Glass, Sunkist, Campbell's, Peak Antifreeze, Scotsman, and Pillsbury. He has produced television, print, collateral and packaging. And he has been rewarded for it with Effies, Art Director's Club, Andy's and Telly's along with an International Advertising Federation Gold award. When not at work, Ron is quite busy with his Antique wood boat and vintage car – basically things that are nice to look at but seldom work.
Ruth Coyne
Group Account Director
Ruth Coyne is Noble's L.A. Connection. Originally a New Yorker, Ruth made the easy transition to sun, sand and the UCLA Bruins long ago. She now services our clients out west with New York intensity sprinkled with LA calm. Having worked as a Marketing Director for a major food company for over 10 years, Ruth has a firm grasp of the demands of her clients. Marketing strategy that leads to results, launching new products, and integrated planning and activities that get you the most bang for your buck are her specialties. Extreme Boot Camp at 6:00 AM and two daughters is what keeps her centered.
Tiffany White
Management Supervisor
During the past 18 years, Tiffany has been building her unique food marketing perspective with a combination of agency, manufacturer, and distributor experience. That experience includes working as a Marketing Associate for Sysco Foods, a national account manager for Tyson Foods, and more than 10 years agency experience on business-to-business and retail brands providing insightful leadership and great enthusiasm for her clients' brands. She's covered a lot of ground over the course of her career, which must be due to that Earnhardt lineage.


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Post Ironman Recovery
You've just completed a pretty big race, or you are about to. You've spent months developing sweat equity for your big day so you can race to your potential (or simply finish). For some, Ironman is a one-time bucket list thing while for others it is one of many Ironman journeys. Even if they never again tackle another Ironman, most triathletes will aim to keep active.
As a coach, one of the most common mistakes I see athletes make is the complete cessation, not only of training but of all movement after their big event. Obviously there is a need for physical and psychological recovery after an event like this, but there is a right and wrong way to go about it.
First thing's first. To completely stop training directly after your big event is a huge mistake.
Our muscles become used to their daily dose of oxygen, blood flow and going through a range of motion. Stopping dead in our tracks makes our tissue (fascia, muscles, tendons etc.) bind up. This means our tissue loses its pliability and our range of motion decreases. It's the reason many athletes get injured when they start back.
Another reason immediately ceasing training is a mistake is based on our hormonal system. Once again, our systems are used to a certain amount of stimulus each day and once we stop, our bodies get out of homeostasis (balance). Couple this with the tendency to go "off the rails" with our daily diet and other habits and the problems begin to stack up. This could be why many athletes also get sick post Ironman.
Of course, your immune system could be on a knife-edge leading into the event if your training is solely based on catabolic aerobic and threshold work. In this case putting a stop to your training and dietary habits deals the final blow.
The final reason I believe that completely stopping training/movement is a huge mistake is because most athletes aim to improve. How many races have we been to where the war stories the following day are followed up with declarations about what you will do differently next race. If you truly want to become a better athlete, your body needs a year round approach to training. Now, that doesn't mean no down time because you definitely need it but recovery, like the rest of your training program, needs to be placed correctly.
Below are some guidelines for how to go about your post Ironman recovery. The goal is to allow your body to fully recover but not lose all those hard won motor skills and physiological developments you have made. Get this right and you'll catapult your results to another level.
Most triathletes will take the day after an Ironman as a rest day and I believe this is a good thing. You will want to include some gentle movement, however. For example, a 15-20 minute easy walk followed by soaking your legs (an ice bath is better still). This will promote blood flow and oxygen to the tissue and speed up your recovery.
The rest of the week should be made up of easy movement. This should include more walking, easy swimming using pull buoys and XS paddles including some kick and an easy spin on the bike. This will all help flush out any leftover waste products. Do something light for about 30 minutes most days with the exception of your travel days. Unless you have another race coming up, I'd leave your easy run until the following weekend.
Mid week is a good time for a post race light massage. Tell the therapist not to go hard but to just stimulate the tissues. This will create further removal of leftover water products and bring about healthy tissue. Ensure you hydrate and walk around post massage.
On the weekend enjoy what I like to call a coffee shop ride – no longer than 2-3 hours on the bike and make sure you stop for a mid ride coffee and a treat (or whatever tickles your fancy). I like to keep that weekend ride routine up for a number of weeks post race. This injects some light endurance training into your week while keeping it fun and social.
On Sunday you can reacquaint yourself with running via a short, easy jog – one hour at most.
This first week post Ironman is all about "de-training" your body from the intense workload it has been through. It doesn't need to be much but you need to let the systems relax a little. I liken it to cooking a steak (properly). After you've cooked it on a decent heat for a few minutes each side (depending on thickness and how you like it), you need to let it rest before you consume it. The cooking process makes the tissue bind up and get smaller; letting it sit allows the tissue to relax and open up again, making for a better tasting steak. In body terms, rest allows your system to absorb and soak up the work (and the race) positively.
I recommend taking the second and potentially even the third week post Ironman as rest weeks. Most athletes will be going mental and want to restart training by week three but taking time out from training in week two is key. This allows for the psychological component of recovery to kick in. Don't under-estimate it – you need it. Since you have let the systems relax a little, continuing to rest at this stage allows for a full recovery. I recommend getting involved in other activities. Go for walks with the family, see different things, go surfing or head out on other little adventures.
I suggest capping your rest time at two weeks off. This is because, you do not want to lose all those hard fought for motor skills and strength/power you have developed. Muscles have memory, so getting aerobically fit again is reasonably easy, but skills are lost quickly and we need to keep hammering away at them to continually improve. We cannot rest on our laurels.
When you first start back you should not be overly concerned with endurance. Better endurance will happen as a by product of the complete training load, but focussing on form is more important at this time.
I like to use tools like pull buoys, paddles and something from Finnis called the forearm fulcrum. The pull buoy means you don't have to fight against holding good body position and the paddles will help develop a powerful stroke. I like the TYR catalyst in XS as they're nice on your shoulders and develop a good catch. The forearm fulcrums help you not drop your elbow under the water in the pull phase. Wax on, wax off.
I like to stick to a power based session – really short intervals that stimulate the muscle system but won't whack you aerobically. These are high power against a high resistance with the same or longer recovery intervals, i.e. A main set of three (30 seconds, 45 seconds, 60 seconds) with 1:1 work/recovery ratio pushing all-out against a high resistance that only gives you 40-45rpm. I alternate this session with longer moderate efforts with shorter recoveries, still maintaining 50-60rpm on the efforts. This is in addition to the weekend easy aerobic/social session.
Start your run easy and add fartlek intervals, focussing on developing your stride rate. Keep the intervals short (30 seconds to two minutes). This is not about hard running but learning to turn the legs over fast. A treadmill set to 0 per cent grade is useful for stride rate skill development.
Spend 4-6 weeks following this pattern. The volume is low but the skill focus is high. This will re-stimulate your body's systems and prepare them for the training ahead.
Having a goal in mind (this is easy if you qualified for Kona in your last race) will help get your mojo back for training. Since Ironman races often sell out a year in advance, it may be 50 odd weeks until your next shot. Look at your current results and fitness and then make mini goals or stepping stones along the way to ensure you are successful at your next event. This last race will give you many clues to where you can improve. There are always improvements to be made in many areas. Choose one or two and focus on them. Once they have been improved, focus on other areas.
There you have it. All the tips described above have one major thing in common which is the key to success: that is consistency. You need recovery, but make sure you go about it the right way to prevent illness and injury and ensure you remain consistent and motivated.
Train hard and train smart. Only you can make it happen
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I thought I'd pop a post up on these forums to introduce myself. Basically, My Name is David, but I go by the handle Pandemonium. At the moment, my hobby is making games, and I make them under the name of the studio 'Pandemonium Softworks'. It was this hobby that led me to this forum, as for a game I'm currently making, I need to make a world map, but I realised I don't know the slightest thing about cartography. Due to this, I thought I'd have a peruse of these forums and see what I can pick up!
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Recruiting New Members
New members are the life of any organization. They provide new ideas, enthusiasm and keep the team moving after graduation. Everyone wants new members. New organizations are starting all the time. As the number of student groups increases, the competition for new members intensifies. Keys to successful recruitment include participation in scheduled Involvement Fairs and Open Houses planning programs for the beginning of the Fall semester, and submitting your club registration form on time so Student Life & Activities can direct interested students to the current club leadership.
Look objectively at your organization: What is our purpose? What are our future plans? Knowing the answers to these questions will help you define who you want to recruit and how you want to recruit them. Think of the things your organization has to offer to prospective members. Make sure you review your club web-page so that it accurately reflects the message you want to send about your student organization.
Be sure to incorporate what you have to offer into your publicity. Your new members (like your returning members) will need to feel like they belong in the group. Get them involved in the workings of the organization. Get to know them. Help them get to know you. Let them know that their contributions are needed and appreciated. Following these steps will lead to a more enjoyable and rewarding experience for everyone!
Club Executive Board Members
A common executive board is made up of:
- President – presides over meetings, acts as the spokesperson for the group, calls meetings and acts as the overall official for the organization.
- Vice President – usually heads special committees and acts in the place of the President in their absence.
- Secretary – keeps records of the meetings and formal business, as well as writes letters for the organization.
- Treasurer – keeps financial records of the organizations, keeps the officers' roster up to date and prepares the budget.
There are other positions that could serve on an executive board (parliamentarian, public relations, etc.) If your group needs help determining club needs, please see your assigned Student Life Assistant Director.
Students who serve in these leadership positions must be currently enrolled for a minimum of six college credits (active – not audit status) and must be in good academic standing (as defined in the College catalog).
Fundamental Rights of Individuals Involved in Organizations
- The right to maintain close contact in relationships with friends and family members who are not involved in the organization.
- The right to disagree with group members without being belittled.
- The right to say "no" or "I need to think about this," whether it is about expectations of members, dues, activities, or time requirements.
- The right to ask questions and to express opinions.
- The right to know the history of the organization.
- The right to be respected as an individual.
- The right to withdraw from the organization without fear or humiliation.
Responsibilities of Organizations
- Along with the benefits of becoming a registered student organization at Brookdale Community College, there are certain responsibilities that must be fulfilled. These responsibilities are outlined below:
- All clubs must have an updated Constitution on file in the Office of Student Life & Activities.
- All clubs must have an updated list of officers and advisors on file with the Office of Student Life & Activities.
- All officers must be currently enrolled in six or more Brookdale Community College credits (active – not audit status)
- All clubs must have an advisor who is employed by Brookdale Community College.
- Membership must be open to all full and part time students at all campuses.
- Club meetings must be held in an open and accessible space. If you have a specific ADA request, please contact Disability Services.
- Clubs will follow all Brookdale Community College policies and procedures, as well as local, state, and federal laws.
- Clubs and their members will comply with Brookdale Community College's anti-discrimination and anti-hazing policies.
- The club's money must be maintained in an account with Brookdale Community College No outside bank accounts are permitted.
- Officers will accept responsibility for all program planning functions, from room reservations to the supervision of events and activities.
- Officers will develop honest and open lines of communication with the club's Faculty/Staff Advisor and their assigned Student Life Assistant Director, keeping them apprised of the group's activities.
Advisor Roles
- Advisors, with rare exceptions, volunteer their time and efforts to student organizations without financial compensation. At all times they should be appreciated and valued for the work they do for students.
- Advisors should be knowledgeable in the nature of the club (i.e. how to assist the club in reaching goals/purpose)
- Advisors must sign off on all requests. This includes room reservations, food service requests and any application for funding.
- The advisors are not the club leader but a consultant that initiates ideas or information applicable to the club's interest. All decisions must be student driven.
- Advisors should make every attempt to attend club meetings. Meeting minutes must be sent to advisor for any meeting that is missed.
- Advisors will serve as event chaperones. In the event they are unable to attend an event, it is necessary that another Brookdale employee is chosen.
- Advisors should assist students in ensuring the club maintains accurate records of club business.
Working With Your Advisor Effectively
Communicate! Make sure your advisor is informed of all activity of the club, including meeting times, programs, votes, upcoming discussions, and any other pertinent information.
Ensure your advisor is interested with respect to club activity, try to get them engaged and involved as you would any club member.
Provide them with copies of the minutes and agendas prior to start of meetings.
Allow space on the agenda for your advisor, in case they wish to address the club.
Allow your advisor to advise and not dictate the actions of the club – set ground rules with your advisor as to their specific role at the start of each academic year to avoid confusion and potential frustrations.
In some cases, the relationship that develops between Advisor and Advisee is not good or productive. A relationship where there has been no discussion of expectations, no clarification of roles—and everyone is doing a lot of guessing and even more assuming—is a strong indication that this relationship could be in trouble.
These expectations should be discussed and processed at the beginning of the year. After your groups expectations have been laid out, it would be helpful to distribute these to group members. It is also important to update them or reflect on whether or not the expectations are being met throughout the year.
For more information, check out the Advisor Checklist.
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At the summit of a rocky outcrop stands the exceptional fort of Kuélap (600m long), at the top of which you can enjoy a superb view of the Cordillera Central. Built by the Cachas Indians (also called Cahchapoyas), it was home to some 400 extremely well protected cylindrical habitations. To get past the thick walls, you had to go through one of three corridors, so narrow that only one person could get through at a time, and then make sure you didn't fall into a deep pit, which was almost impossible for the uninitiated.
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I'm looking for a steel or reasonably priced ti frame that can accommodate my size and a few special needs.
First, I need the bike to handle my 210lbs + 20lbs of gear and not flex too much. I am 6'4" and my current road bike is a Trek 63cm and fits very well. My legs are pretty strong right now from triathlon training and I want to be able to sprint here and there if I have to get somewhere fast. I may use clip-ins for longer commutes.
I want an efficient feel out of the bike and I want it to also be somewhat responsive (so long as it isn't carrying a cargo load).
I will be running a Shimano outboard bearing crankset for reduced flex (I run outboards on all of my mountain and road bikes for this reason).
Second, the frame needs to accommodate fenders and a rear rack and up to 28-32cc tires.
I have researched a few frames and the Surly XCheck and LHT keeps coming up as well as the Salsa Casseroll Single. The LHT doesn't seem to be SS compatible. I have concerns about these cheaper steel frames being stiff enough for someone of my size/strength. Is 953 steel that much better than 4130?
I would consider going TI but what is holding me back is not feeling comfortable spending so much money without being able to test ride such a TI frame beforehand. Had I some experience in riding TI bikes the situation might be different. Another option I guess would be to build up a steel bike with a cheaper frame and high quality components and then get a custom TI frame later.