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Editor's note: Bernard Gwertzman, consulting editor at CFR.org, interviews Daniel Markey, Senior Fellow for India, Pakistan, and South Asia at CFR for this look at U.S.-Pakistan relations.
The CIA drone attack June 4 in northwest Pakistan that killed deputy al-Qaeda leader Abu Yahya al-Libi is the latest in a string of incidents that has brought U.S.-Pakistan relations to "a new low, relative to what we've seen since 9/11," says CFR South Asia expert Daniel Markey. In addition to drone attacks, the 2011 killing of Osama bin Laden, U.S. air attacks killing Pakistan soldiers along the Afghan border, and anti-Pakistan rhetoric have all contributed to the strained relationship. Markey also attributes the rift to the intensity of the Obama administration's counterterrorism focus and Pakistani mistrust about U.S. objectives in the region.
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, visiting Afghanistan June 7, said because of attacks from Haqqani forces–insurgent Afghan forces based in Pakistan–the United States is "reaching the limits of our patience" with Pakistan. Does this indicate a new low in U.S.-Pakistan relations, or is this the new norm?
It is a new low relative to what we've seen since 9/11 [September 11, 2001], or at least it's a continued low from where we've been since the killing of Osama bin Laden last year [May 1, 2011]. Relations got even worse last November with the friendly-fire incident along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border in which some twenty-eight Pakistani soldiers were killed. But we should remember that before 9/11, the relationship with Pakistan was almost nonexistent, certainly in terms of any kind of U.S. assistance. The anger wasn't quite as high then, or the frustration, but neither was the degree of interaction. Throughout the 1990s, we had sanctions imposed against Pakistan.
That was because of Pakistan's nuclear program, right?
Right. The United States had made it clear to Pakistan that if they pursued nuclear weapons, sanctions would be imposed. And there have been other low points. In 1979 the U.S. embassy was attacked in Islamabad, and rather than taking firm action against the rioters who rampaged the place, the government of General Mohammed Zia ul-Haq essentially let the protest burn out. That is to say that times have actually been worse in the past, but they are very bad now.
Pakistan was among our closest allies when I started covering foreign affairs in the 1960s. How did relations plummet so?
Certainly this latest downturn has something to do at least with the endgame in Afghanistan and disagreements between the United States and Pakistan over that, coupled with the very intense counterterror focus by the Obama administration that has been unrelenting–both in the good sense that it has secured a variety of significant accomplishments, but in the less good sense in that it has also not stopped Pakistani anger, humiliation, and public and private frustration.
How does the United States justify the use of drones that attack Pakistani territory?
It's becoming increasingly difficult to justify politically. It used to be the case, even a year or so ago, that it was very clear that the Pakistani military and top Pakistani political leaders were on board with the U.S. drone program, even if they were upset by its intensity and frequency, and worried about the public backlash it was engendering inside of Pakistan. This has shifted over the past year and it is less clear to me now that those leaders are even privately telling the U.S. government that it's ok for them to continue with the type of drone attacks that they're doing.
The problem is that the Pakistani military has little in the way of leverage with the United States on this point. Washington clearly sees the drones as useful, and this latest killing of Abu Yahya al-Libi is an indication of that. So it's not going to stop. The Pakistanis could conceivably put their foot down, they could even shoot down one of these drones to send a signal, but that would be really an act of war in a way they don't appear willing to escalate to because they know the consequences would be far worse for them.
You've just been in Pakistan. Is there now a stronger anti-American feeling?
There is an underlying anti-Americanism in almost every corner in Pakistan. This is not new, though. Some of it is being exacerbated and mobilized by politicians and others in the Pakistani state for their own parochial purposes. The way to see it is that Pakistanis sort of swim in a sea of anti-Americanism for a variety of reasons. It's everywhere. It's not all angry or passionate or violent, but there is a great deal of skepticism about U.S. aims in the region, and frustration that, as many Pakistanis put it to me, "even when the United States says that they will help us or be a partner to us, we don't see the tangible evidence of that."
Part of the problem is that there is less help than even American officials would like–that is, delivery of assistance programs have always been delayed, and there are always congressional challenges to that. The other part is that Pakistanis don't necessarily see a lot of the aid that has been delivered. It's been done through the Pakistani government, or without significant U.S. branding, so it's invisible to them. The benefits of the U.S. partnership are often out of sight, and the costs are highlighted by their politicians and by their media, which, like most semi-free media, tends to harp on violence and play up [violent] video.
Civilian deaths often accompany these drone attacks.
This is a big dispute. The U.S. government in both official and leaked claims suggests that the number of civilian causalities is quite low. Of course, some of this is relative. If the United States was intent on killing some of these terrorists and using dumb bombs out of F-16s, it could do that too, and there would be hundreds if not thousands of casualties. The flipside is, yes, there have undoubtedly been civilian casualties, and those who are opposed to the United States inside of Pakistan for other reasons–even those who simply have humanitarian concerns–worry about this. This is filtering back into a debate in the United States and certainly in other countries about the legality of the use of drones, the proportionality, and the decision-making process that allows, in this case, the president of the United States, to indirectly pull the trigger without a wider or more transparent process.
Did the Obama administration think about giving Pakistan advance warning about the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad last year, or invite the Pakistani forces to participate in it? Clearly that was a great shock to the Pakistani leadership and military, and as you noted, relations have been bad since then.
There was probably a brief debate within the Obama administration's inner circle of people who had any knowledge of the impending raid. I'm sure they ruled it out almost out of hand, due to their skepticism about Pakistani potential double dealing, and also their concerns about operational security. They hardly told anybody within the administration that they were doing it, much less anybody in any other country.
That said, it was a huge risk. Had the raid gone bad, the potential for some sort of firefight with Pakistani military was quite high. And as bad as things were in the aftermath in terms of the diplomacy and all that's happened since, they would have been exponentially worse if such a thing had happened. In addition, many of the [Obama administration] officials who are primarily concerned with diplomatic engagement with Pakistan were not informed in advance.
This was very much of a counterterror operation. Those involved on that side of the ledger were involved; those involved in the diplomacy with the Pakistanis were not. As far as I can tell, there was little in the way of a follow-on diplomatic plan or strategy in place, so that the United States could move quickly either to mitigate the fallout of this inside of Pakistan or to seize upon the opportunity which presented itself.
The U.S. presidential candidates on Pakistan
Why doesn't Pakistan take action against the Haqqani network instead of letting the group take sanctuary in Pakistan?
There are at least two reasons. One is that the Haqqanis are a powerful, sophisticated, and well-resourced terrorist organization with the ability to hit back hard, and Pakistan would feel significant pain both in terms of its direct military operations against the Haqqanis in the tribal areas, but also almost certainly in Pakistan cities and towns where the Haqqanis would be able to probably unleash a very painful terrorist campaign. So biting off the challenge of attacking the Haqqanis has always been seen as a really big deal for the Pakistani state.
However, the reason they are also inclined not to fight this Haqqani challenge is that the Haqqanis have been scrupulous in directing their attacks outside of Pakistan. They have said their primary concern is inside of Afghanistan and removing the NATO and U.S. forces, and transforming the Afghan state back into one in which they have significant control or power. They do work hand-in-hand with Taliban and other militants who are opposing the Pakistani state, and in that sense they're double dealing the Pakistanis in a way that we often consider the Pakistanis to be double dealing us.
The Pakistanis, at least the more sophisticated ones, have recognized they don't have total control over the Haqqanis or any other elements of the Afghan Taliban. But they believe the Haqqanis are probably their best proxies in any future Afghanistan. So they have retained the closest ties with them, and they don't have a lot of other allies in Afghanistan. If Pakistan is concerned about Afghanistan falling apart after NATO goes or becoming too close to the Indians, they are trying to retain their allies, as messy and ugly and unsatisfactory as these particular allies are.
I think the Pakistani policy is short-sighted. If they actually succeed in retaining ties with the Haqqanis and Afghanistan falls to pieces after the United States leaves, the Haqqanis will then turn on them.
Let's all hope that this rift keeps getting wider and wider. The wider it gets, the better! Maybe this will shorten the cursed war in neighboring Afganistan along with the needless bloodbath.
ur pakistani when u marry ur own sister
ur pakistani when eat beef but hate pork ... yummmmy
ur pakistani when ur mothers is ur dads sister
ur pakistani when u lose ur virginty to ur sister
ur pakistani when u walk around in lady pants and parachute pants
ur pakistani when ur sister and mother walks around in black tents
Sadly Gandhi
Among the various charges disclosed in the book: Gandhi not only slept in beds with young women under the age of 18, but also engaged in a long-term, gay affair with German-Jewish architect and bodybuilder Hermann Kallenbach, for whom India's peace icon at one point left his wife in 1908. As the Wall Street Journal reports:
hinduism, absurdity of a hindu child of incest from hindered gutter land india,
One is a hindu, ignorant if he is borne in hinduism, denial of truth and in holy tradition of hinduism, incest in following of their pot head hindu filthy man god RAM, married to his sister by their own hindu filthy text, incest being the holyest tradition for hindu's to follow.
One is a hindu, ignorant, if he believes in a monkey as his man god and follow habbits of a monkey in life.
One is a hindu, criminal, by commiting feamale infestation, every hindu criminal lives by by killing baby girls before birth and hindered criminal country consideres a woman, nothing but his slave.
Good article. Pakistan has a short sighted, terror based policy. Pakistanis are in bed with the Haqqani terror network because they want Haqqanis to have more influence in Afghanistan. However, Haqqanis will eventually turn against Pakistan if Afghanistan falls apart.
What Pakistan needs is a Communist Revolution similar to the one in China some 60 years ago and break off with the U.S., Great Britain and France. After 1949, nobody was able to tell China what to do or exploit that country's resources. Just hope that Pakistan keeps on standing it's ground!
Well stated, Joseph. Pakistan does need to stand it's ground and maybe other countries will do the same. Enough of this international bullying already!
Surprise, an American preaching to Pakistan about their willingness to accept American mass murder and illegal invasion and pillaging of sovereign states. That would be no different than Hitler preaching morality to the jews in his concentration camps.
Haqqani is a new American Invention. Why is it that you never seemed to hear about Haqqani's two years ago, but now they are in the every day.
I really hope the rift keeps on getting wider. The sooner the US leaves Afghanistan, the sooner militancy and extremism can end in Pakistan.
Haqqani (Network..LOL) .America's new Bogeyman.
Pakistanies are ready to eat grass if they have to, but they will not let anyone intimidate or dictate them on thier own land at any cost....they can charg $10 million dollars per NATO truck to go thru thier territory or they can simply seal the border off completely forever no matter what. period...everyone should go to Pathan's resturant (Drug (Nashwar business) from North to drink thier tea...LOL beside that, don't you Americans forget that Afghanistan is a land of Zombies...no body from outside survives here, no body!
kidoo ..bakistani been eating grass since last 65 years .. shia sunni and ahamdi killings are on rise ...muslims are killed more in pakistan by muslims in any other country ..
i am glad i left this crazy country
Hope you are enjoying the open range grass fed steaks somewhere sweet pea.
*Naswar (famous Tobacco product across south/central Asia)...
The U.S.-Pakistan rift is becoming unbridgeable that all talks on the re-opening of the supply routes to and from Afghanistan are stalled. Pakistan had demanded an apology from the U.S. for the deaths of the 24 soldiers and high fees for the transport, which would cost $ 1 million daily. Nato and its allies will be using the Northern Distribution Network (NDN) hosted by the Central Asian states instead, which would be more expensive and time consuming.
Indeed there's skepticism in Pakistan about America's aims in the region. The West is worried about Afganistan after 2014. Last week the Shanghai Corporation Organisation held a summit in Beijing. Some in the West see the SCO as "the Nato in the East". Vladmir Putin was there together with four other members – Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. The core group of six was joined in this year's summit by regional neighbours. Afghanistan was invited to the meeting as a guest and had been granted observer status. Iran, Mongolia, India and Pakistan are already observer members, but Pakistan is calling for full membership. The pressing issues were national security, social stability and economic development. Hu Jintao was hoping that the SCO could play a bigger role in Afghanistan's peaceful reconstruction. In a joined statement Putin und Hu opposed any outside military intervention and a regime change in Syria. Putin will also meet Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, ahead of talks hosted by Russia to seek diplomatic solutions over Iran's nuclear program.
Shanghai Corporation Organisation –> should be "Cooperation" instead
So, so....what's the outcome?
May be, wait to fight. The road of peace is bumping, while it is smoothie for war.
What do you think Allen? America keep fighting for you.
Pakistan parliament's stand is not complicated for USA to understand. Apologize for the murder of Pakistanis and follow International law with respect to sovereignty of nations. There will be no more free lunches going forward. Cannot be more simple for the likes of Panetta to understand. So giddyup.
How come Daniel Markey does not classify American drone attack on Pakistan as an act of war but that of shooting them down by Pakistan as an act of war? Is endorsing double standard part of his opinion or analysis? Here is excerpts from his interview by Bernard Gwertzman,– "The Pakistanis could conceivably put their foot down, they could even shoot down one of these drones to send a signal, but that would be really an act of war in a way they don't appear willing to escalate to because they know the consequences would be far worse for them."
what about pakistan hiding obl and every single know terrorist in the world?????
What about it? Do you have a beef? Medium well....rare?
pakistan born but raised in states and married to sikh .. i can tell one thing pakistanis are so backward mentality ,..
i know what i have to go through to marry my husband .. i went to India and tell you one thing i got so much respect and love ..no hate what so ever ..
but my husband is still hated in our family ... pakistanis are just so messed up in head and fake culture values
No wonder you are confused, peaches. Remember me? I am the one you WERE married to !! Mwah ha ha ha
oye gashti de lund ... i think ur forgot ur my bastrd child ask ur ammi ... i still remember her taking my lund up her arss ..
teri ammi and appi are still her playing my b@alls ... they enjoy nice hindu lund .. like ur abba who enjoys pork chops :)
To all Indians...."Ya'll, Now git back in line before I kick you so hard you'll be wearin your @ss for a hat."
To the author's point, USA is anot a trustworthy ally. Pakistan has moved on. WRT to Haqqanis, Pakistan has said repeatedly it will not be muscled by to action at someone's biding. So let's debate this issue in UN alongwith Indian Occupied Kashmir.
Pakistan appears to have made a very thoughtful democratic and parliamentarian decision with regards to issues at hand with USA. It was very disingenuous for Panetta to make comments such as he did in India knowing well that Pakistanis don't have much respect for Indians. He probably took a calculated risk and the reply message from Pakistan was pack your negotiating team and get out of Pakistan. For a global power to pick a fight with such a time tested ally such as Pakistan is indicative that American foreign policy has been hijacked. It is Jimmy Carter deja vu all over again.
The highway to peace and prosperity in this world has been paved with the blood of Pakistanis. L'Chaim Pakistan...Vive Le Pakistan
The more US tries to strong arm Pakistan the more the probability that a fundamentalist islamist government will come to power next election cylcle for the first time in history. Surely there will be fireworks after that turning the region into an inferno that will be uncontrollable.
NEW YORK: Renowned Indian activist and novelist Arundhati Roy has decried the silence of the international community over the continued "brutal Indian occupation of Kashmir" and said Kashmiris should be given the right to self-determination.
"Kashmir is one of the most protracted and bloody occupations in the world — and one of the most ignored," she told a large audience at the Asia Society during a discussion on "Kashmir — a case for freedom".
Under the Indian military rule in Kashmir, Ms Roy said, freedom of speech was non-existent and human rights abuses were routine. Elections were rigged and the press controlled.
She said the lives of Kashmiris were made miserable by gun-totting security personnel who harassed and terrorised people with impunity, adding that disappearances were almost a daily occurrence as also kidnapping, arrests, fake encounters and torture. Mass graves have been discovered and the conscience of the world remains unstirred……
The apathy towards Kashmir, especially in the western world, Ms Roy said, was because of their pursuit of commercial interests in India where they were more eager to "sell their goods than human rights"……..
dawn news may 2
pakistani journalist wrote about bakistanis around the world to be falling below poverty line in canada , uk , usa and europe.
95% bakistanis lives of food stamps and welfare
94% bakistanis are in incest relationship with sisters or mothers ... fathers or daughters
The Aghori or Aghouri is a Hindu cult in India that is considered to have split off from the Kapalika order in the fourteenth century AD. They have cannibalistic rituals. The streets of northern Indian cities are littered with followers of this cult carrying a kapala, which is a cup made from a skull! These bizarre people will eat anything from rotten food to animal faeces. In order to achieve the highest citadel of enlightenment, the Aghori will perform horrendously crude rituals. The finality of their rituals is attained from eating the decaying flesh of a human.
Once upon a Mumbai dreary, while the Indian Army pondered weak and weary.....
While they nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
As of some one gently rapping, rapping at their bunker door.
"'Tis some visiter," they muttered, "tapping at our bunker door —
Only this and nothing more."
What say you? Quoth the talibans… What say you?
It ain't no visiter….so to speak…'tis…the talibans…2 or 3 but Not More.
We come in peace and nothing more…only in peace and nothing more...to tickle you to heart's content.
To sing you some bhajans and maybe more....so go back to sleep Evermore.
Quoth the talibans, Evermore".
And when you wake up we will be long gone…but we will be back____will be back
This time in New Delhi….we will be back____
Quoth the talibans…. we are coming back!!!!.
Don't give up the day job luv
hinduism, absurdity of a hindu child of incest from hindered gutter land india,
One is a hindu, ignorant if he is borne in hinduism, denial of truth and in holy tradition of hinduism, incest in following of their pot head hindu filthy man god RAM, married to his sister by their own hindu filthy text, incest being the holyest tradition for hindu's to follow.
One is a hindu, ignorant, if he believes in a monkey as his man god and follow habbits of a monkey in life.
One is a hindu, criminal, by commiting feamale infestation, every hindu criminal lives by by killing baby girls before birth and hindered criminal country consideres a woman, nothing but his slave.
You are so freakin racist iwould say more but the only words which I can think of are words that should not be spoken
In some Haryana villages in India, the young girls are routinely threatened, abused and killed all under Khap (tribe/clan) verdicts. It is acceptable for the families to feed pesticide pills to the teenage girls and then dispose off their bodies by burning them without any police records.
u.s will not accept defeat in bringing peace in afganistan-pakistan region, no matter anti u.s policy and activities created by pakistan. u.s invested in pakistan lot of money to bring peace in that country and in the region. u.s will want positive results out of her investment. u.s will get help from other countries, if needed, even from china, india, russia and other regional countries to bring stability and peace in that region. u.s will also take not just charitable approach but business approach as well. it is expected that pakistan will coperate with u.s, otherwise, she will bring her disaster, which will not be supported by other peace loving countries, whether they are anti-u.s or not.
The rift will decrease after General Elections.This rift is present to show people that this Government is not US slave so that elections can be won.USA knows this and this rift is just US drama to let this Govt win elections. US orders will be implemented after election.
Pakistan parliament's stand is not complicated for USA to understand. Apologize for the murder of Pakistanis and follow International law with respect to sovereignty of nations. There will be no more free lunches going forward. Cannot be more simple for the likes of Panetta to understand. So Giddyy Uuup.
Time of Obama hinduism, terrorism is over in Afghanistan and Pakistan, Pakistanis have already hind, spitted on American hindu filthy "AIDS", America never delivered any help to Pakistan but scammed Pakistan of tens of billions of dollars. Pakistanis are no longer interested to subsidize American hinduism, terrorism nor America need to expect it,because as per American way of hinduism, deceit, it is nothing but interest, PAY YOUR BILL OR GET LOST, HOBOS,
very "intelligent" conclusion. with this argument, pakistains will land in paradise (heaven), where they will enjoy virgins. all these are due to good "muslims" in pakistan.
Racist person hindus are in india its muslim in pakistan
oops i tried replying to all comments made by "hinduism source of hindufilthyracism."
We should learn from history and what it we can gain or learn from it. By history Pakistan and it's neighboring countries like Saudi Arabia for one have supported the Taliban. The conflict with them was because of Osama ties with them. It's best we just let the security and conflict in Afghanistan be taken cared by the Afghans while slowly or quitly removing our troops from that part of the world.
I have 2 things to say
1. I wonder why the people in pakistan are upset about the drones cause we are attacking bad peoples why they let them sit on their own soil
2. What with this bad person "hinduism source of hindufilthyracism". is he also a terrorist. Besides in Pakistan the main religion is the Muslim religion
Thank you so much for asking these questions. First, the drone is a Sovereignty issue under International Law. How would you like it if someone entered your house and started shooting at you? I hope you get the jist. Second, the person you refer to is airing is views (right or wrong) like many others do on this forum. One does not have to agree with it. If you have any other questions, let us know. Thank you. Again, thank you for asking these questions.
The world will look back at Pakistan's Salala Apology stance and consider it as David standing up to Goliath. A defining moment for Pakistan's foreign policy and a public announcement that it does not consider USA as an ally and a disalignment from it.
Get the hell out of these filthy countries. Spend that money on US defence/counter attack capapiblty and advertising that any attack – regardless if successful or not, coming from anywhere near Pakstn will result in immediate devestating counter attacks. Build up USA; not slimy countries abroad.
Pakistan is a moderate Muslim country, and had been an US ally since it's independence, including its position on Israel. Even though it is nuclear, it is not a threat to Israel at all, only as a deterrence to India. Relations only started to deteriorate since the last 6 or 7 years. It is no coincidence that India has been quietly destabilzing Pakistan and fanning Pakistan-US discontent, and their agents have been found in Afg-Pak border for exactly that purpose. These are widely known within Pakistan, but not reported much outside. It is about time some media report should dig into this.
It is a well-known fact that in Asia, Pakistani businessmen are much more reliable than Indians, esp. those from Mumbai. In the mid-east, esp. in Dubai, you have lots of Indians who descended there since the oil boom, and they have a bad reputation of always trying to get out of contracts and disappear back into India where you cannot find them, or if found, there's nothing you can do because of the corruption there. There have been zillions of horror stories about them "buying and not paying", It's well known you can easily get a fake L/C out of India, and even genuine bank L/C's are not necessarily what you think is written. That's why one must deal with them through a non-Indian bank.
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Severino "Nonoy" Marcelo's middle name could as well be "Ikabod." Marcelo's famous mouse character creation ran as a satirical comic strip from the late 1970s to 2002. The strip recast the Philippines as a nation called Dagalandia and humorously depicted the socio-political woes of ordinary Filipinos, as represented by the tailless Ikabod Bubwit (small rodent). Marcelo often used the strip to caricature political figures from Ferdinand Marcos and Cory Aquino to Joseph Estrada and Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, reimagining them as mice.
Nonoy Marcelo also created the comic strips Plain Folks, which appeared in the Daily Mirror during the early 1960s, and Tisoy in 1963 for the Manila Times, which tells about the lifestyle of young Filipinos. He also has a prize-winning book called Huling Ptyk—Da Art of Nonoy Marcelo, which features original drawings from the private collection of Atty. Saul Hofileña.
Nonoy Marcelo taught film animation at the University of the Philippines College of Fine Arts and was responsible for introducing significant innovations in the film animation course of the college. He was the only Asian cartoonist featured in Time Magazine for its cover story "Mighty Pens" for his bold commentaries on the current socio-political state of the country through his comic strips.
In 1985, Marcelo was given the Catholic Mass Media Award for print journalism, a category usually given to reporters or columnists. Later in 1986 and 1988, he also received the Catholic Mass Media Award for Best Comic Strip. In 1998, Marcelo received the Cultural Center of the Philippines' Parangal Sentenyal sa Sining at Kultura (Centennial Artist Award), the only cartoonist so honored.

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Dmitri Hvorostovsky was "born to sing Verdi" (Opera magazine) and indeed the composer's operas are central to the great Russian baritone's remarkable career. He showcases his hallmark Verdi roles on this his second release for Delos.
The release of Verdi Arias comes hot on the heels of Hvorostovsky's appearances at the Metropolitan Opera as Posa in Don Carlo, one of three Verdi roles he took on during the 2001–2002 season and two of which are featured on this disc. His first Rigoletto in the West, at the Houston Grand Opera in October and November, was greeted with unanimous critical acclaim. "This is a Rigoletto gripping from start to finish," declared MusicalAmerica.com. "It is a new and brilliant view, and Hvorostovsky employs razor-sharp intellect to bring [the role] to life… He uses every nuance of his immense voice… he speaks with Olympian authority." April brought Hvorostovsky's first Il Trovatore at the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden.
Hvorostovsky possesses a rare blend of musical power and passion combined with acute musical intelligence. He has been praised world-wide for the success of his penetrating artistic explorations and the depth of his bold characterizations. He glides seamlessly between the often-conflicting emotions of Verdi's complex characters. One of Hvorostovsky's most notable and familiar roles is Francesco in I Masnadieri. On Verdi Arias, "Sogno di Francesco" portrays the character in a rare reflective mood, but Hvorostovsky has likened his demonic character to Iago, represented by the confessional "Credo in un Dio crudel" from Otello.
Rage and revenge are heard from Stankar in "Lina, pensai ch'é un angelo; Oh gioia inespribile" from Stiffelio, innocence and fury from Renato in "Alla vita che t'arride" "Eri tu", from Un ballo in maschera. As King Carlo in Ernani Hvorostovsky delivers a somber and stirring "O de' verd'anni mie", as well as a desperate King Nebuchadnezzar in "Dio di Giuda!" from Verdi's early Nabucco.
A disc devoted to Verdi fulfils a lifelong dream for Hvorostovsky. As a teenager he dreamed of singing Rigoletto though it wasn't until two decades later when he finally undertook the role on stage. Along the way his professional assumption of Verdi roles has been judicious and consistent with the development of his prodigious vocal gifts.
Hvorostovsky is partnered on Verdi Arias by conductor Mario Bernardi and the Philharmonia of Russia. The recording took place in the Great Hall of Moscow's Tchaikovsky Conservatory. Verdi Arias was recorded in DSD and is also available on SACD.


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LAWRENCEVILLE -- His preferred first name has gone back and forth, but not the results.
Joey Terdoslavich is one of the hottest hitters in the International League and there is no mistaking that.
The Gwinnett Braves right fielder is batting .414 (29-for-70) during an 18-game stretch that has seen him have multi-hit outings 12 time after back-to-back three-hit games to open the series with Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.
Included on Friday night was Terdoslavich's fifth homer of the season and he led the IL with 19 extra-base hits and 70 total bases before Saturday night's game at Coolray Field was postponed because of rain.
Nothing went right for the switch-hitter early last season in his first taste of Class AAA. He struggled defensively at third base and battled a hitch in his swing.
Now that he has a new position and a smoothed-out swing, everything is good again.
The 24-year-old has built off a strong spring training with Atlanta to hit .348 with 17 RBIs in 29 games for Gwinnett this year and re-establish himself as a top hitting prospect.
But what about the first name? He switched from Joey to Joe going into this season, maybe to completely put last year in the past. But his father goes by Joe, so now it is Joey again.
As long as the hits keep coming, nobody cares either way.
Doubleheader scheduled
Weather permitting, Gwinnett and Scranton will conclude their series at Coolray Field with a doubleheader today at 12:30 p.m. Both games are seven innings.
The G-Braves (12-17) have lost six straight games and the RailRiders have won six in a row.
Brian McCann is scheduled to again play for Gwinnett before completing his minor league rehab assignment and rejoining Atlanta for a road trip that begins Monday in Cincinnati.
McCann, who had surgery on his right shoulder in October, homered on Friday and is 3-for-8 with two RBIs in two games for the G-Braves after going 5-for-14 with a double, three homers and seven RBIs in four games for Class A Rome.
Tim Corcoran (1-2, 3.12 ERA) and Omar Poveda (2-1, 1.93 ERA) are the scheduled starters in the doubleheader for the G-Braves
Carrithers rejoins teams
Alden Carrithers was moved back up from Class AA Mississippi to Gwinnett on Saturday after Corey Wimberly tweaked his leg running out a sixth-inning double Friday night.
Carrithers hit .320 in nine games for the G-Braves in April before being returned to Mississippi, where he was batting .148 in 12 games.
Wimberly is batting .227 in 20 games and ranks second on the team with eight doubles. Terdoslavich leads the IL with 13.
Janish tries again
Paul Janish, who played five games for the G-Braves in mid-April before straining an oblique, began a second 20-game minor league rehab assignment on Friday.
The shortstop was 1-for-3 in the 6-2 loss to Scranton before leaving for a pinch runner in the seventh inning.
Janish had surgery on his left shoulder last October and missed all of spring training. He played in 55 games for Atlanta last year following a trade with Cincinnati.
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- Skid continues as G-Braves swept in doubleheader ( May 5, 2013 )
- McCann goes deep, but G-Braves drop 6th straight ( May 3, 2013 )
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If this report is true, and if this denial is false, a redistricting... ahem... "understanding" that helps out the Independent Democratic Caucus could have ramifications for state Sen. Patty Ritchie's new district.
Bear with me here as I do some semi-informed speculation about total inside baseball.
The state needs to redraw its political boundaries to account for shifts in population. Mrs. Ritchie, a Republican, needs to pick up population because of a relative decline in population and because prisoners in Ogdensburg, Watertown and Cape Vincent may no longer be counted in her district.
Where does she go?
Here's one scenario: Republican State Sen. John DeFrancisco gives up the parts of his district that are becoming more Democratic to state Sen. David Valesky, a member of the Independent Democratic Caucus. The IDC is a break-away faction of former Dems that has been supportive, at some turns, of Senate Republicans. (And if this Daily News story is right, Republicans are inclined to help out the IDC in return.) Mr. Valesky's district basically wraps right around Mr. DeFrancisco's, so swaps would be relatively easy.
To make up for this, Mr. DeFrancisco's district goes north into much safer Oswego County territory, a big-time Republican stronghold that has closer ties with Syracuse than it does the north country, anyway. That shores up Mr. Valesky and Mr. DeFrancisco.
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One also must wonder where Mr. Griffo goes if he loses Lewis County and parts or all of his stake in St. Lawrence County.
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Jimmie was born June 15, 1930 in Jefferson City, Missouri to Pete and Myrtle Tate. He married Delwanda Cummings in Clovis, New Mexico on September 6, 1951.
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Really, an event where front row tickets are freaking $9,000 each didn't sell out right away? YA DON'T SAY.
Why pay to see the same main event as last year? No Taker confirmed. Lousy location. Sluggish economy. Gee I am shocked it is not sold out yet.
Right now, I'm not even sure if it's worth ordering.
I have to agree with T. There is absolutely no reason to get hyped about what's looking so far to be a lack luster Wrestlemania. Rock vs Cena has been done and I don't want to see it again. Even if it was a three way with Punk it still is not a drawn to me. Looks like my bet were going to see Swagger vs Alberto Del Rio for the Hwt. Title. That's why all the hype around Swagger and Dutch Mantel's America rants. Taker still not confirmed and were left with a card that's not looking good Yet. Look for major storylines starting RAW post Chamber PPV.
Traveled to the last two Manias and now that it's literally in my backyard, I'm not going. There is nothing on this card worth the expense this year.
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Mingo-even with great talent around him, he didn't produce much at all.
Vaccaro-overrated. he makes an art out of whiffing.
Mingo-even with great talent around him, he didn't produce much at all.
Vaccaro-overrated. he makes an art out of whiffing.
Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.
I know this is more than one but...
Austin, Mingo, Patterson and Vaccaro.
I think Mingo is a better athlete than football player.
Patterson is not proven enough IMO and he catches the ball with his body the majority of the time.
This is a deep safety draft and I don't see Vacarro being that much better to warrant such a higher pick compared to the others.
I want a wide out compared to a slot receiver. Austin is a weapon.. no doubt about it and he could create various match up problems but I really think we need a outside receiver.
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It would be Jones.
1.22) Alvin "Bud" Dupree, OLB/DE, Kentucky
2.56) Senquez Golson, CB/S, Ole Miss
3.87) Sammie Coates, WR, Auburn
4.121) Doran Grant, CB, OSU
5.160) Jesse James, TE, PSU
6.199) Letterius Walton, DT, Central Michigan
6.212) Anthony Chickillo, DE, Miami
7.239) Gerod Holliman, FS, Louisville
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1.22 CB Marcus Peters, 6'0" 197 lbs., Washington
2.56 FS Damarious Randall, 5'11" 196 lbs., Arizona State
3.87 TE Clive Walford, 6'4" 251 lbs., Miami
4.121 DE Henry Anderson, 6'6" 294 lbs., Stanford
5.160 WR Titus Davis, 6'1" 196 lbs., Central Michigan
6.199 OLB Kyle Emanuel, 6'3" 255 lbs., North Dakota State
6.212c OLB Max Valles, 6'5" 251 lbs., Virginia
7.239 RB John Crockett, 6'0" 217 lbs., North Dakota State
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I know no one seems to like Patterson, but I saw him play against NC State and he couldn't be covered. He took one of the best corners in the draft to school. I have no idea how good he'll be. But his potential is thru the roof. I bet Tomlin loves him.
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AJ Green 10
Patrick Peterson 9
Frank Gore 6
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Leaping Lizards! Abilene minister had no idea he was going to be cast as extra on racy 'GCB'
What: "GCB," a new prime-time show set in Dallas
Where: ABC
When: 9 p.m. Sunday
Abilenians tuning in Sunday night to ABC's "deliciously fun, wicked new drama" might do a double-take when they see a familiar face in the opening shot.
Yes, that really is Jonathan Storment, minister at Highland Church of Christ. And, yes, that setting really is a Hooter's-type restaurant with a girl sliding down a fire pole.
So what is Storment doing there? Trying to hide, that's what.
But before anyone jumps to conclusions, Storment wants people to know it wasn't his fault he ended up in the pilot episode of the raunchy new prime-time show, "GCB," set in Dallas.
The letters "GCB," which glitter with diamonds on ABC's website, stand for "Good Christian Belles," which sounds harmless enough.
However, both "GCB" and "Good Christian Belles" are toned-down versions of the book title that the TV show is based on. In the novel by Kim Gatlin, the "B" is the first letter of another well-known "B" word that is frowned upon by ministers.
If only Storment had known all that from the beginning, this possible embarrassment could have been avoided. But he didn't, and his experiment with getting a bit part in a TV show in Hollywood, to illustrate a sermon series, really could have turned out badly if the folks back home hadn't been so understanding.
"When I came back, I was thinking, 'Should I put my resume out?'" Storment said. "My whole ministry career was flashing before my eyes."
He was that concerned that he might be fired as preaching minister at Highland. But when the church's elders and members learned the whole story, they saw the humor in it and even the good that eventually resulted.
They understood that Storment didn't know what he was getting into and that he was trying to be creative with a sermon series.
"To me, it has to be taken in context of that," said Bill Fowler, who was chairman of the elders, the church's governing body, when Storment made his ill-fated trip to Hollywood last summer.
It all started when Storment, 31, decided to do a sermon series last fall on "Extras," those biblical characters with minor, but important roles.
Storment is granted a study period by the church each year, and he thought it would be a good idea to go to Hollywood to get some firsthand experience about being an "extra" to enrich his sermons. He realizes that probably isn't what the elders had in mind when they granted him a study period.
"They thought I would be reading books," Storment said.
Instead, he headed to California, where he once preached and had a friend to stay with. And that's when things started to go wrong.
The first mix-up came right away. When Storment arrived in California, he called his casting agent named Annie. But another agent answered and said, "I'm booking for Annie."
The agent meant she was filling in for the agent named Annie, but Storment thought she meant she was casting for a new movie of the classic orphan story, "Annie."
Storment couldn't believe his good fortune.
"I'm pretty pumped," Storment recalled. "I'm thinking dancing orphans."
And then when he heard — or thought he heard — the agent on the phone saying something about Christian Bale, he was really thrilled thinking he might be in a scene with a big name actor.
When Storment arrived on the set, he was delighted to see that it was being filmed at Disney Studios. How perfect! A nice wholesome Disney movie about Little Orphan Annie.
Imagine Storment's surprise when he found out there was no "Annie" movie being filmed that day and that "Christian Bale" was really "Good Christian Belles," a new ABC-TV show.
Still, the fact that it was at Disney Studios and the show had the word "Christian" in it made Storment think he was on safe ground.
And, then he saw the set and the scantily clad "belles." As soon as he learned about the original book title and that the American Family Association had given a thumbs-down to the new TV show, he started looking for a way out.
But, as luck would have it, he was selected to play a "working class bar patron" sitting in a Hooter's-type restaurant with some other guys.
In the opening scene of the pilot program, the guys watch a waitress slide down a fire pole, carefully balancing a plate of chicken wings. Storment recalled sliding down in his seat, hoping not to be noticed, when the director selected him for a line, "Thank you very much. Here's your tip."
Unless the scene was cut from the pilot show airing Sunday, Storment will be saying that line in a Hooter's-type setting that he would never in real life step foot into.
Storment was more than a little concerned about sharing his experience with his church but quickly learned that most, at least, thought it funny.
"They were more than OK with it," Storment said.
That may be because of what Storment made of a potentially embarrassing situation. Like any good minister, he saw people in need and reached out to them. At the beginning of the process, Storment visited with others waiting in a staging area to try out to be an extra.
Most of the conversation was common "getting to know you" fare, Storment said, and he said he was a minister when asked his occupation.
"I told one person," he recalled, "and the next thing I knew, it was all over the room that I was a preacher."
Storment wasn't sure how people would react, but the story turned out to have a happy ending. Instead of shying away from "the preacher," some people wanted to talk to him. And, for weeks after returning to Abilene, Storment got phone calls and emails from people he had met, just wanting to visit or ask for guidance.
During the waiting period, he struck up a conversation with a young woman who told of her bad experience with her home church in Missouri. She had married a Jew in the same town and her church turned on her, she told Storment. The experience was so negative that she had given up on the church.
But meeting a minister in that strange setting gave her new hope. Storment recalled what she had said to him.
"I think it's really cool you're doing this," she told him, "because I think that's kind of what Jesus would do."
When Storment returned to Abilene, he told the church elders about the mix-up and then shared the experience with church members as part of his "Extras" sermon series. He also relayed what he believes is the moral of the story, through his blog titled, "Stormented," and through speaking.
"The church has avoided places where it could not tell the dominant story," he said. "If we can't, then we don't want to participate.
He believes that attitude is a mistake and that "the church" must go to where people are, not wait for them to come to the church.
Highland hired Storment two years ago when he was only 29, a young age for a minister at such a well-known church that had been served by some of the Church of Christ's biggest names, such as Lynn Anderson and Mike Cope.
Storment, who is married and has two children, earned a bachelor's degree from Harding University, a Church of Christ-affiliated school in Arkansas. He now is completing a master of Christian ministry degree at Abilene Christian University.
The fact that Highland hired Storment to step into such a major pulpit shows the church's willingness to think outside the box. Even so, Storment worried that appearing on "GCB" might be a little too far outside the box.
He was pleased and relieved to see the church's response. And, the church liked the bold step its young minister took. Fowler, who was chairman of the elders when Storment started the "Extras" venture, said most people in the church saw it like Storment did.
It was a matter of showing how God uses people in unusual places and also how he puts his people in unusual places to make a difference. That is exactly what Storment hopes was the "final take" on his experience.
"I didn't convert anybody," he said. "There were no epiphanies."
But something major did happen. Storment got to make a point by actually living it, rather than just telling it.
"The world has changed exponentially, and Christians have got to find new ways to be faithful," he said. "Otherwise, they will fail to be present in places that need them the most."
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Paul Katami and Jeff Zarrillo, along with a lesbian couple, sued to challenge the voter-approved ban in 2009.
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Best way to mount a 10" sct on an atlas?
Posted 01 July 2013 - 09:44 PM
I have a 10" LX200, and the fork mount has stopped working, I deforked the OTA and am going to put it on my atlas. I was going to use a vixen rail, and have one already, but am concerned that it only has the two screws through the ends of the SCT to hold it on.
I like ADM kit, and they have a Losmandy bar that has radius blocks so there would be more screws holding it on, but I was just wondering if I should use rings instead. Is it worth it to get a set of rings for this scope rather than my existing vixen rail? If so, is there a reasonably priced set of rings I could use?
I found some 11.9 " rings at agena astro that might work.
I have a vixen to losmandy adapter for my atlas, but had also been considering the upgraded saddle from ADM as well.
Thanks in advance,
Posted 01 July 2013 - 10:18 PM
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 10:21 PM
BUT, lots of others worry about flex with that rail and the 2 screws. I went with the Vixen for cost issues. If money had not been a concern I would have changed the mount saddle and gone with the Losmandy.
Posted 01 July 2013 - 10:23 PM
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 10:33 PM
I also plan to image, my atlas, or rather my EQ-6 since that is what it really is, guides wonderfully, the gent that sold it to me actually imaged with a c14 on it if you can believe it, using hyperstar.
I have a MDS top rail for my guide scope. I believe that the weight might be pushing it a little for imaging, but nothing wagered nothing won
Thanks for the replies, you put my mind at ease. Nw to get rid of the clouds!
Posted 01 July 2013 - 10:53 PM
I roll my eyes when I see these mounts called "low end" in posts, best astro upgrade I have made by far was the EQ6.
Posted 01 July 2013 - 11:05 PM
I think tube rings will be overkill for this scope. But if you do invest in tube rings, might as well attach them to a "D" dovetail while you're at it, otherwise why bother with tube rings.
Posted 02 July 2013 - 05:49 AM
Posted 02 July 2013 - 07:49 AM
BTW, my scope is the LX200, 10" OTA. Attached is a photo:
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Posted 02 July 2013 - 07:56 AM
Looks like ADM's site is down at the moment. Do you guys who upgrade the saddle feel it was worth it? I like the fact that it grips with the entire jaw of the saddle instead of two screws, less marring of the dovetails and a more secure connection I would guess.
Posted 02 July 2013 - 08:27 AM
Wow a lot of people have this combo, I am surprised. When I initially did some searching, what I seemed to find was a bunch of people saying the atlas was not quite enough mount for a 10" SCT.
Looks like ADM's site is down at the moment. Do you guys who upgrade the saddle feel it was worth it? I like the fact that it grips with the entire jaw of the saddle instead of two screws, less marring of the dovetails and a more secure connection I would guess.
The Atlas is definitely up to the task for visual observing. Where it becomes "ify" is when you want to attach guidescopes, and other equipment to it for imaging. With all that extra weight the Atlas will be less stable and bouncy. It can be done though.
The saddle upgrade is well worth it. The ADM grabs the dovetail along its length and provides a much more secure grip. Other upgrades I've seen include replacing the counterweight shaft with a larger diameter one. I believe the newer versions of the Atlas actually come with this feature.
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Posted 02 July 2013 - 11:22 PM
In fact I don't miss the forks at all now. It did take a lot longer to set up the EQ, but the benefits were great, most impressively, the damping on this mount. My forks were mounted on a milburn wedge, it weighed fifty pounds alone, and when you would focus or bumpt the OTA it would shake like a tuning fork. Though I guess it actually was a fork and if there was a light breeze like tonight, forget it, the fork mount would shake like a leaf.
I could rap the EQ-6 pretty hard and see the vibration damp out in a second or two. I was so impressed!
Got some good looks in this evening at Saturn, and some items n the tour program before packing it in. Very exciting to have my SCT back!
In other news I decided to get the losmandy rail. I am going to piggy back my guide scope and have my imaging equipment riding in the SCT so I might as well get the rail that will at least make me feel better.
Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:18 AM
While it did work just fine and I saw absolutely no issues with it with a Vixen bar (the Orion Universal Dovetail, which is what I used, is a solid bar of aluminum and is very strong), I did decide to replace it with the Celestron bar (large, aluminum bar that uses the single screw on the front cell and the 2 on the rear cell and half the cost of a Losmandy and does not need the radius blocks). Did I need to do this? Mechanically, no, psychologically, yes. Now it looks so much more stable with the wider Losmandy width bar than the Vixen bar.
Just thought I would add my two cents worth.
Posted 03 July 2013 - 07:07 AM
In fact I don't miss the forks at all now.
Best thing I ever did for my LX200 OTA was to de-fork it and go GEM. About the only thing I don't like is having to switch sides after the scope tracks past the meridian. A fork-mounted OTA doesn't have that issue. Nevertheless, the Atlas/10" is a great combo and, I can change OTA's if I want.
Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:37 AM
NOTE: No, I am NOT employed by ADM, but I am an owner of ADM hardware and I just love it!! It does a nice job securing my C-11 OTA to my Atlas mount!!!
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Posted 03 July 2013 - 10:10 AM
De-forked 10" f/10 LX6...
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Posted 03 July 2013 - 10:24 AM
I didn't care for the ADM plate for the Meade, it was a tad too long, narrow, and without radius blocks.
Hmmmm. My ADM kit for the Meade 10" OTA fit perfectly. I had no problems with the fit of the radius blocks, and the dovetail was the perfect length. It looks just like RobertED's in his above post.
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I like the guide scope having off the dovetail on the bottom, pretty clever. Do you have to add weight to the back to balance the dec axis?
I held off on the dual saddle for the EQ-6 for now, as I have a very sturdy vixen to losmandy dovetail adapter already.
Have to agree that the atlas / EQ-6 is awesome. I loved it before, and love it more now. If I had bought the EQ-6 before my LX200 I might have never bought the big old Meade. Oh well. I liked that scope a lot when it worked.
When I bought this mount, I made sure to get enough extra counterweights from the seller to be able to balance the LX200 OTA in the event I had to defork it.
Oh, and one more thing, I. Was pretty impressed with the goto accuracy with the SCT, I typically use a small Newtonian with a FL of 750mm, but the EQ-6 put everything in the field of view of my televue 21mm plossel all night.
Clear skies,
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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:41 AM
The reason there isn't it a tutorial is because it's just a requirement. None of them are 'better' or 'worse'. They're hunks of metal that attach to the tube and allow you to attach it to a GEM.
Buy from whoever you want; my recommendation is to get the cheapest one you can find. I've owned two now; a Meade 5000 series and a Losmandy. They were almost the same minus the length (2 differenet scopes).
Lets not overthink this stuff .


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You could almost hear a collective groan emanating from the Czech Republic on that February day in 2006 when the great Dominik Hasek limped off the ice after sustaining a tournament-ending leg injury in the opening game of the Winter Olympics in Torino, Italy.
Hasek, after all, was the player most responsible for the Czech's stunning gold-medal performance in Nagano in 1998, where Hasek earned a semifinal-round shootout victory against Team Canada before shutting out Russia in the gold-medal game. Would his absence hurt the country's chances at rebounding from a seventh-place showing at the 2002 Games in Salt Lake City?
Not really. Not when the No. 2 goalie on the Czech Republic depth chart happens to be Tomas Vokoun. In fact, after being told by doctors he would be unable to play in any of the remaining '06 Games, "The Dominator" admitted the country was in good hands with Vokoun.
"He is a great goalie and the Czech Republic will be OK in goal with him," Hasek said at the time.
Vokoun, much like Hasek in his prime, is extremely nimble and athletic while exhibiting one of the quickest glove hands in the game. He was the logical choice then and now.
"I just knew I had to be ready," Vokoun told NHL.com. "I wasn't supposed to be the No. 1 goalie, but, in saying that, you just never know how events will turn out. I just was ready and went in the net and played the best I could."
Vokoun, who won a gold medal with the Czechs at the 2005 World Championships in Austria after posting a 7-1 record, 1.08 goals-against average and .953 save percentage, would ultimately play a big role in leading the Czechs to a bronze medal in '06.
Not too shabby for a guy forced to replace an icon at a time when national pride was at a low. In a span of four years, Vokoun has gone from being the savior as a backup to being the man in charge as the 2010 Games in Vancouver approach.
"Regardless of which country you play for, having the Olympics in Canada, where it's the national sport, is going to be huge," Vokoun said. "I'm honored and proud to be one of the goalies getting the chance to play. It's my second Olympics and, as an athlete, regardless of whether you're professional or amateur, it's great to play and be a part of the Olympics."
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He made his 10th straight start against the New Jersey Devils on Wednesday and, despite a 2-0 loss to Martin Brodeur, made 31 saves to keep his team within striking distance. He recorded his fifth shutout -- tied for second in the League -- in a 27-save, 1-0 win against Atlanta on Jan. 18.
"His focus has been great and he's enjoying coming to the rink," Panthers goalie consultant Robb Tallas said. "Goalies go through runs like this where you can get on that wave. And you want to ride it as long as you can."
Vokoun, who ranks first in the NHL with 1,253 saves, is second in shots faced (1,350) and third in save percentage (.928), admits he's no different now than his previous 10 seasons in the League. It's what has made him such a consistence force year in and year out.
"I felt pretty good last year too," he said, almost matter-of-factly. "I finished second in save percentage (.926) and I pride myself in being consistent with however highs or lows come my way. I don't do anything different or special, I just do what I've always done. I'm just out there to play to the best of my capabilities."
Brodeur admires Vokoun's style and knows he'll be counted on by his country next month.
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