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5 Reasons I Never Want to Be a Yoga Teacher.
I don't want to be a yoga teacher and you can't make me!
Earlier today I received an email from someone who assumed that I was a yoga teacher. She asked where I taught and if she could take my class if she was ever in town. I immediately corrected her assumption. Nope. Longtime yogini, no interest in ever being a teacher. Sacrilege in these parts, no? I mean, if I love it so much, why am I not chomping at the bit to become a RYT?
Oh so many reasons…
The top five:
1. I hate teaching.
Well, hate is a strong word. I don't enjoy it much. I used to love it. I've taught English, creative writing, dance, nursery school, Kindergarten, swimming lessons, wilderness survival skills (don't ask…), and I even taught in a long-tem sub position as a Junior High Gym teacher. I get super awesome bonus karma points for getting through that last one. I have enormous respect for teachers of all kinds. It's a calling, not a job. I'll teach anyone anything I can one on one, but the idea of teaching—teaching anything—to a group has lost it's allure. Maybe I burned myself out on it, and it will come back around?
2. I've haven't practiced long enough.
I started 17 years ago. I don't think I'm ready yet. Okay, I always feel like I have to qualify this—I have not had an active practice for 17 years. I took my first yoga class at 18. I didn't immediately dive into a daily practice, or even a weekly practice. Yoga and I have been on-again, off-again lovers for years. Sometimes I would stray and immerse myself in running, more dance classes or something in the martial arts family (usually after watching Kill Bill or an old kung fu movie). But I always come back. The past few years I've started digging deeper, physically and spiritually, but I feel like I've just scratched the surface. How could I possibly be ready to teach anyone else?
People also hear 17 years and think, "Wow! You must be phenomenal now." Yeah, not so much. The past few years have been my most faithful, but I still wrestle with certain asanas (I'm looking at you, Pincha Mayurasana). Plus, with all the time I spend on my laptop making my neck and shoulders unhappy, my practice just sort of cancels that out instead of putting me ahead in the flexibility department.
3. I don't really see myself as a "Yoga Girl."
I'm more of a Writer Girl who also does yoga. I love yoga. It changed so much of my inner and outer life. And yeah, I rock my mala beads sometimes. I love my TOMS. I love a lot of the "yoga girl" trappings. And more importantly—I practice most days. I usually take one or two days off a week. But I don't know if I'd say it defines me. I'm sure there are people who know me who categorize me that way. But realistically, it's a small but integral piece of the whole me. I can't imagine not having an asana practice but…I feel a little selfish about it. It's something I do for me. It's an area of my life where I like to receive and learn. Not sure if I want that to change.
4. Sometimes I roll my eyes when people say Namaste.
C'mon. You know what I mean. It's a beautiful expression. I say it in class and I embrace the attitude fully. But sometimes…ugh. We've all met someone who can be the bitchiest of the sanctimonious yoga bullies and then tack a little namaste "Love 'n Light" on the end to soften the blow. It's the yoga community equivalent of saying something mean and slapping one of those stupid emoticons on the end. Hi, I'm about to be an assh*le, but since I put a semi-colon and close parentheses on the end, it's all good! Namaste, motherf*ckers!
So, I say it sometimes, but only when it feels genuine. I've picked up my fair share of Sanskrit along my yoga journey. It's useful knowledge to have and it enriches my practice, but it's not cool lingo that makes me part of the yoga clique. I keep a namaste attitude in my heart instead of flashing the word around all the time so that people know I'm "spiritual."
5. I don't have to.
Everyone has those things inside that they have to do. That if they didn't do them they'd just burst open. Teaching yoga isn't that for me. I'm sure there are a lot of wonderful teachers whose passion is quiet and not a desperate burning need to teach. My plate is pretty full of the things that I just must do or I'll burst. I'm not sure if I have room for more (or want to make room for more) this time around.
When I have something I need to write about, I just have to do it. Have to. When I watch someone moving, I immediately look at his posture, his musculature and think about how and where I would work on him during a massage. There are songs that come on that absolutely make me dance. Can't possibly be still. And there are times when I absolutely have to be in Pigeon Pose and get out whatever seems to be stuck in my sacral chakra. There are times when without even thinking, I sink into Balasana and rest my head on the floor to leave the day behind for a few minutes. I need to practice, but I don't have to teach.
But then, even as I write this there is a little tiny spark of "well, maybe someday…"
It's like the act of saying "never going to do it" piques some part of me and won't let me rule it out. Am I missing something? Tell me yoga teachers, do I need to put YTT on my bucket list? What do you love about it? Tell me why I have to do it.
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58 Responses to "5 Reasons I Never Want to Be a Yoga Teacher."
I thoroughly enjoyed this post! Thanks for this!
Namaste motherfu*kers
I am the same, people mistake me for a teacher all the time, and many people have told me I should be a teacher. I simply love being a student.
Totally irreverently down-to-earth awesome. Thanks.
My distaste of the cult abusage of sacred words attracted me to this honest and humble post. Thanks.
Hi Kate,
Love your post! I've been practicing for about the same…but religiously every day at home for the last 2 years (after I ended my 2 year affair with Mysore and 3 years affair with Iyengar). I've been in school for the past 3 years and getting into another program…ahhh…This is all I do before 9 and after 5 – I love, love, love to teach, but it is a lot of work.
A few things don't do:
1. I don't say "Namaste" in my classes.
2. I never call myself a yogi.
Namaste:-) Lol (and I constantly contradict myself)
Hi Kate – Funny you should write this now, as I have been thinking about my upcoming teacher training. Why DO I want to do it? (and more importantly to me, HOW do I want to do it?) It can't simply be because it's in Costa Rica….. or, em, maybe not all because of that! But rather than puzzle it out here, perhaps I shall write a response article. Better get off my asana and submit it. – Alexa M.
Do what you want to do It's not always about teaching 'on the matl' xoxo
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Big "ditto" here! Love this post.
there is no reason whatsoever to do it unless a) you very much want to, b) you need the money or c) you feel it will be an enriching growth experience…
nice article.
we each have our calling. and if we live most fully as who we are and what calls us then we are always teaching, how you teach is up to you. I have to teach, but I would never tell someone else they should. Honestly I think teaching is an art much like singing and dancing…if you love it you will do it, but I can honestly say that loving a subject and doing it well don't necessarily mean you can teach it
the only reason to become a yoga teacher is because you feel called to it…
NOW as for the teacher training? I think most RYT 200 classes should be labeled as yogi training anyway and can be very enriching even if you don't want to teach.
i have been a teacher of movement for years & years, added yoga some time ago, but then decided I needed to "save" something for myself… something I wasn't always giving to other people, something that I could feel genuine about, on a deep personal level, something that I did when I wanted to, not just because the class was on the schedule. thank you Kate for your honesty & candor!
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Awesome post – love the humour. I think there's something to be said about deepening your yoga practice *without* having any intention of being a teacher. There are SO many yoga teachers, which is wonderful. The world needs them. And it also needs people doing other worthy things as their hearts lead them.
I think one thing that should be told to every person considering teaching yoga is that, once you become a teacher, you'll never experience yoga in the same way. Even when I'm taking a class with an excellent teacher, part of my brain is taking notes to apply to my own teaching. It's great, but it is definitely a different immersion in the practice. I find it hard to completely give myself over to my yoga practice without thinking about how what I'm doing or hearing translates to teaching.
I'm okay with that. But I think it should be a fair warning to those considering teacher training. 😉
Katrina, I agree with your feeling that "once you become a teacher, you'll never experience yoga in the same way." I entered my YTT with gusto in 2006 and returned a bit ambivalent about teaching. I thought I would come home from my monthlong at Kripalu feeling high as a kite but really went the other way. I poured my heart out about the experience in a post last year: http://flowtationdevices.com/2011/03/11/flashback….
I'm always interested in hearing the "other side" of yoga teacher training, people like me who came home from the experience and decided teaching just wasn't for them.
It was really nice to read your article. Just as I would not want a grade school teacher teaching children if they didn't feel that was their calling, I feel the same about yoga teachers. You are a great student to listen to your heart:). I am a yoga teacher, but had a similar thing happen I had to chose between becoming a running coach or continuing to run on my own for the sheer joy of it….I chose the latter. Best wishes on your journey!
I also assumed you were a yoga teacher Kate. But, it's ok,I still love ya! As always a witty and well written post.
Kelly East Everything is a choice . .what you say and how you respond . .and what you choose to create. Namaste.
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Felicia Douglas Why in the world would you roll your eyes when someone says Namaste?
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Kelly East Felicia, it is obvious that this Elephant Journal person/persons doesn't have/nor are experiencing the love, respect, honor, godself in itself . . to acknowledge, honor, appreciate nor receive or see . . .or else "it" just likes to cause conversation/dialogue with us. And now after this post, I choose not to be a part of it.
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Jenny Lens Namaste is my fave word. I often end my many FB posts and greet/say goodbye to my friends w/Namaste. It REMINDS ME to be more gentle and accepting w/ppl and myself. I use it thoughtfully … but to each her own!! Namaste. 😉 ♥
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elephantjournal.com I was quoting the author and being silly about it. I'm apologize if my humor was too dry or obtuse. If you care to click on the article you will understand that neither her nor I are against anything "Namaste" or the ideas beyond it; on the contrary, we love it and we also love to make fun of it and yoga from times to times and laugh at ourselves. Sometimes life is too hard to take it so seriously, don't you think? Namaste! ~ Andrea.
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Susan Pease Banitt Andrea, I think your comment reflected your state of attainment both in humor and in yoga. Back to the mat with you.
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elephantjournal.com Susan, agreed. There are days & days. On the mat now. ~ A.
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Susan Pease Banitt Om……
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elephantjournal.com Mamaste
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elephantjournal.com Kelly East – this sentence taken out of context of the post sounds mean. My point was that I hate when people throw around a sacred word and use it to frame mindless speech. Namaste. ~ Kate
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Mayra Garza Hitchens The comment is hilarious. It is only speaking of our humanity. We are not perfect, (I mean, who goes around honoring everything they consider sacred their life at every moment -non-stop?) and by the way, that is the good news, for that is what keeps us creating love , life, goodness.
No need to apologize.
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Mayra Garza Hitchens One other thing: Elephant Journal is the best non-BS website on the planet. That tells me I will find some writings that will speak boldly, straight and dead-on in relationship to my humanity, you know, what I hide from others, that I will be offended. (now, that's funny).
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elephantjournal.com elephant: bullsh*t free since 2002! ~ Kate
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Monika McClure i love the article and relate to so much of the content, thank you for the humor and the insight. x
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elephantjournal.com Kelly, Waylon here.
I understand you won't get this, since you've quit elephant because of the satirical commentary of one of our hundreds of writers (you're welcome to be one, anyone is, we're reader created)—but without admittedly having read the article, I'd say I find it hysterical, literally laugh out loud, that you'd quit and insult and judge someone and a publication because that someone doesn't like the word "Namaste."
Study up on the meaning and remember that it's most powerful when we honor those we disagree with. It's easy to see the light in those we love.
Great post Kate, I always enjoy your writing. I am a RYT and am currently going through the "how often do I really want to teach?" debate. There is a delicate balance between what you give as a teacher and how much you need to receive as a student to stay open and energized. It's incredibly important to remain humble regardless (never taught a class or been teaching for 10 years), and no matter what always come to your mat as a student first, and then perhaps a teacher second. Perhaps…
I, too, am mistaken for a yoga teacher often enough, online …
(Even on Facebook, when I used to use Facebook)
I'm opinionated, know how my body (or bodies) work, have a frequent practice, practice at home, and had lengthy meditation sessions every day
It happens.
Kate, your article made for a great read!
First of all mastery of asanas is NOT a pre-requisite to teach yoga.
PIncamayerasana is immaterial.
There is some sense from your article that perhaps you are looking form some permission to slow down and go deeper into the deepest recesses of Kate and marinate there for hours on end. Yoga gives us permission to do that.
Do it enough and yoga *does* start to *take over* your life. For some that is a scary proposition.
If the time was right for you to be teaching – you *would* be!
I began practicing yoga 41 years ago. Got certified to teach 9 years ago.
Before getting my certification I felt like a yogi. I still feel like a yogi.
When I shop for groceries, I feel like a yogi. When I take out the garbage, I feel like a yogi.
My belief is that usually when someone feels like a yogi inside and out – – they pursue teaching so that they can feel confident sharing what is such a precious and very personal part of their lives. It gives us validation to do what we know we are destined to do . So we get certified and it makes it easier to feel good about sharing what is really deeply ingrained in our souls.
Your article triggered me to ask myself why did I get certified in 2002? I have no logical or rational answer to that question except to say that if *felt* like the right thing to do. Logic did not play any role in this decision to apply for teacher training at Kripalu in 2002. I'm certain I was moved by *higher intelligence.*
When this intelligence starts to rule our life, we want to share it. At least that's how it was for me. I can't really speak for anyone else.
Some may be doing it for the money (LOL) the fame (LOL) the glory (LOL) or out of boredom or because they are yogi wannabees and they have heard that YTT deepens your practice. All of these are OK reasons – – put when the reasons are so diverse – the danger is that the pool of certified teachers becomes somewhat diluted.
Regardless, as it stand now — the pre-requisites to get certified are generally pretty low or non-existent.
I'll close by sharing a link which probably explains a lot of how and why I ended up teaching after 30 plus years of mainly solo yoga practice – –
LOVE this post! You're hilarious.
All good reasons. I'm pushing 59. already have a long career as poet and prof, and I love teaching. I'm far too old to be a yoga girl. and wouldn't have liked it when I was young. Yoga isn't a cheerleader's work. I started teaching at 50, when it became evident I had some yoga to teach, and have loved it for nine years.
I too have been practicing since I was 18. I am now 48 & the yoga world has changed a lot. Nowadays, I find teachers are either recovering addicts replacing their addiction or out of work professional dancers.((those are the ones who can slither into just about any pose) I can smell those ex dancer turned teacher's a mile away.
I too have been asked: Why don't you want to become a yoga teacher?
No Way! I'm a yoga whore! I get very bored with same teachers, I can't stand all the mindless chatter before & after class & I sure as hell don't want to be the one that people look to for guidance. There are a lot of Yogi's out there with problems like everyone else but I sometimes think they actually think their teachers are therapists! I don't want to be that!
I prefer to remain anonymous in my practice!
I am new to yoga and also like the coming and going with no chatter. We share a space for 90 minutes and we are alone in our practice. I am not crazy about the chanting or namaste and at one point I felt that if I was going to practice, I probably should participate in all of it. I come for the good feeling and the movement of my body in ways that I did not think possible. I love yoga but you can keep the chanting and the "namaste".
Kate: Don't do it!
And I agree, you are hilarious! Great post and timely, as I have just had a slew of people writing to ask my recommendation on a "Teacher Training" and I have to remind myself that this is the popular route people take these days. It's just gone so off the map–like a career path. Was yoga meant to be a career path? Whatever happened to just practicing because it is the good thing to do?
Practice your yoga, if someone asks you to teach them, then share what you know.
What I find more compelling is: Why don't you play accordion???
Would love to take creative writing classes from you!
Great post! Thanks for sharing. You have so much to say, with such authenticity, that even if you're not teaching actual asana classes I'd say you're already a "teacher" through your writing. Maybe you just aren't meant to "teach yoga" in a way you've seen it done before 😉 "Where there's the most resistance, there's the most potential…"
Ever want to "unlearn" something? I participated in a YTT last year because I wanted to deepen my practice and learn more as a student. The instructors knew that about me (and others in our group) but the training was geared heavily toward teaching their "brand" of yoga and those that wanted to teach like them were favored. I so deeply wanted to go back to being a student. My practice didn't deepen – in fact it became worse than when I started. It became clear to me that I was not the right type of student for them, and I did express this, although I now feel it was the $ I represented that made them interested in stringing me along. I haven't practiced in quite some time now, because, although I miss how my practice used to make me feel, yoga makes me angry.
loved your post. im a yoga teacher! i did yoga for 5 yrs and alot before I became a RYT and my practice improved so much from doing it so I dont regret it at all, but I hate teaching! Its like the words dont naturally come to me and I have to pull at them, at first I thought it was that i didnt like talking in public, over that, then i thought maybe my i might have some kind of stagnation in my throat chakra, then i realized I think I just love yoga and hate teaching, but like you, I love adjusting. going to school for massage therapy now and I know i love giving Tx. and maybe I would of never got here without going through the process.
I love this article! Funny and so much truth to it. Please keep writing! I love your style
I got my certification never intending to teach (I just wanted to learn). The thought of teaching made me want to throw up. But somehow, life gives you unexpected twist and turns, and now I teach and I don't hate it! in fact, I would say i really enjoy it…most of the time. But I don't do it full time. I teach as part of my own practice. It reminds me to stay humble, because I don't know everything, not even close! When I teach authentically, it's like a spoken meditation, with consciousness in every word. And my class, is a self-reflection of me. what do I really believe is important? Whether I know it or not, that is what my students hear and it gets reflected back in their actions and words. This brings me back to my truth, which is constantly being processed and refined.
P.S. I roll my eyes too when people say namaste! I heard it in a personal voicemail greeting once. I wanted to barf.
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I've practiced for over 25 years and I'm a certified teacher. I loved this article because of #4. It really hit home for me. One of the reasons I immersed myself in yoga was the hope that I could escape the female bullies that seem to have never graduated from high school and still make other women miserable. Well, I discovered – many of them became yoga teachers. I have never had illusions of the yoga community being made up of perfect beings but I am depressed to find out that so many of the yogis in business are hypociritcal and will stab you in the back. They are a particular brand of nasty because they talk out of both sides of their mouths. Very dangerous indeed.
Granted, they are bullies. Life can be a lot like high school, I agree. But to THIS nerd, there is something SOOO much more subtle going on there. Many of today's trendy-wannabe yoga teachers are actually grown-up Drama Club Wonks (who love to play Jock roles), who would rather teach the girls on the cheerleading squad, the Class Prexy; and even the Debate Team Captain, than the rest of us …
They are just WONKS. Not in line for the real in-crowd (to whom they pander greatly). In line for just a lot of infighting. Just look at how many of them, if Anusara people, would want to take down a fallen John Friend.
It was the perfect fit on paper. Blending aspects of my being, interests, and passion into one profession which I could actually be paid to love what I do. Wrong. I didn't realize how much I did not want to teach until after I spent a year focused on becoming a teacher. Actually, after my first YogaFit level 1 training three months after I made the decision to teach, I knew it didn't feel right. I couldn't, or wouldn't, commit to anything more than short term workshops. The more I read the less I learned. The more I focused on the goal of teaching the more detached I became my practice. The more time I spent reading about my formerly beloved practice the more I grew to loathe it. The more immersed I became into the yoga 'industry' the more I realized it's everything I don't value.
Bottom line, The more I made yoga about someone or something else the less it became about me. I guess I'm selfish like that and I knew it before going in. One might think the money and time spent was a waste and in some ways it was. However, I would always wonder if I didn't try. Adding yoga teacher to the list of things I 'want to do when I grow up' and never did. I didn't want yoga on that painful disappointing list. Instead, I have the reassurance that it's not something I want to do and can comfortably live with that knowledge…for now. As long as it looks good on paper there will always be a gravitational pull. I'll be damned iArdha Chandrasana has eluded me for the 14 years of my practice. And yet, yoga teaching is one case where defying gravity is effortless for me. Go figure.
Lovely read, thank you! As a current teacher, I can say this much: the very reasons I became a teacher were the reasons you named in your article. The woman who taught my teacher training lived by all of these things (yes, I was bullied by her repeatedly during our training, all with an obnoxious namaste at the end), and if she did anything for me it was that she encouraged me to teach so that people could come to a yoga class where their teacher is not a "yoga girl" and can't put her legs over her head, where she teaches like a friend and not a superior, and where she thanks you genuinely with words you know the meaning of. It makes a huge difference.
May I add a #6? I don't like politics/kissing ass/playing games to get a job. Your yogi-fake-smile-namaste-I'm-judging-you-bull makes my head hurt, and I'm really not interested, thank you.
Hi Kate! It's me…I teach and I love it. Now that I don't teach too much and all the time I love it more. I had no idea what I was getting into when I started. I have taken trainings on and off since 2005. Next one starts in December.
An teaching does not steal my seat as student, but enriches it.
Poetry though, my first love, I did not want to teach and hate hate hate when poems get dissected and people talk about knowing the author's intention or that it can mean anything depending on who is reading it; we all take something different away but it's truth must stand.
As a teacher I get to share and learn in yoga and my favorite format is special needs and therapeutics. There are as many ways to do anything as there are individuals. No right. No wrong. We can even shed good and bad and embrace any experience as just that.
I like Namaste. I mean it when I say it. I like to Om.
And often less is more!
Great article! Love how the conversation rolled.
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Great post! I think most people who say NAMASTE sound like afftected idiots, but that's just me. Maybe.
Namaste mother f*ckers, however, I could get behind.


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Georgia State graduates should be jumping for joy over the hiring of their first football coach.With Bill Curry in charge, the Georgia State program struck paydirt, literally. Yes, he's 65-years old and will be closer to 67 when the Panthers actual run their first play from scrimmage. Yes, he's been away from the coaching grind for more than a decade, but Bill Curry has the ability to put Georgia State on the Division I-AA football map, and quickly. When Georgia State Athletic Director Mary McElroy brought Curry aboard, the school scored its first touchdown. He was an all-star center at Georgia Tech back in the 1960s when the Yellow Jackets played in the Southeastern Conference, he won a Super Bowl ring with the Green Bay Packers and he played for three legendary coaches-Bobby Dodd at Georgia Tech, Vince Lombardi with the Packers and Don Shula with the Baltimore Colts. Curry incorporates a little of all three men into his coaching philosophy, especially when it comes to class and integrity. With Bill Curry aboard, the Georgia State Panthers know exactly who they are getting-a gentleman who preaches the importance of family, God and education above football. Still, he's a fierce competitor, who hates to lose. During his tenure as head coach at Georgia Tech from 1980-86, there were some lean times down on The Flats as the Jackets often struggled to gain respectability, posting a 34-43-3 record during his tenure, but his job was never in danger. Most Tech graduates and fans believed in the things their coach stood for. Curry showed his stern side when he suspended seven starters for curfew violations in 1985 right before the Yellow Jackets played Michigan State in the Hall of Fame Bowl in Birmingham. Tech went 9-2-1 that year. One of those players he sent home was starting quarterback John Dewberry. Dewberry now is a successful real estate developer who has nothing but respect for his former coach. With the missing players on the sidelines, Tech went out and won the game. Yes, Curry broke the hearts of some Tech fans when he left the program to become the head coach at Alabama. That was not a good fit for the man with ties to Dodd, Lombardi and Shula, not Paul Bear Bryant. Despite going 26-10, winning an SEC title and going to three bowls, Curry did something totally unacceptable in Alabama circles, he never beat arch-rival Auburn. For that sin, he earned a brick through his office window. Unhappy with a new contract that gave him very little control over who to hire as assistant coaches, he resigned. He quickly wound up at Kentucky where basketball will always be king. Curry coached in the Bluegrass State from 1990-96 before spending more than a decade as a broadcaster with ESPN. Tech fans still love Bill Curry. It showed last year when he was in the running to become the school's athletic director, a job which eventually went to Dan Radakovich. Now, Curry is back where he belongs, coaching football. Just like he did at Georgia Tech, Alabama and Kentucky, Curry will attempt to turn the Panthers into a winning football program. That's important, but Curry will also take those college football players in his charge and turn them into fine young men. Simply put, that's what Bill Curry is all about. (Doug Gorman is sports editor of the Clayton News Daily and Henry Daily Herald. He can be reached at email@example.com)
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|Anthony Hayes
|I am looking to go to Mecca City as a tourist but I am also a Christian. I was wondering where the closest Christian church is to Mecca. If you could help me with this I would be very grateful.
|Idris Tawfiq
I greet you with the Muslim greeting of peace. Many thanks for your question.
The first problem you will encounter in trying to visit the holy city of Makkah is that, as far as I know, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia does not grant visas for tourism purposes. Non-Muslims visiting the Kingdom usually do so as business travelers or as guests of citizens of that country.
Saudi Arabia does not promote itself as a tourist destination, since you will find there none of the things which most tourists are looking for on a holiday. The holy city of Makkah, as we will discuss later, is not a place for tourism, but for Muslims to bow down in worship to their Creator.
As for the nearest church, as I have explained, you won't be needing one, since you will most probably not be granted a visa. Any further queries you may have on this issue must be directed to the Ministry of the Interior of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, since their domestic policy does not allow the building of churches within their territory, although they can be found anywhere else in the Muslim world.
If you were to stop off in Egypt or Syria on the way, for example, you would find sizeable Christian communities that have lived side by side with their Muslim neighbors for fourteen centuries.
The first time I visited the holy city of Makkah, I traveled from Egypt to Jeddah and then I took transportation to Makkah itself. On the outskirts of the city there were numerous checkpoints, where visitors were asked to show their passports and proof of their Muslim status.
My own visa showed that I was visiting Saudi Arabia to make a religious visit to Makkah and Madinah. This introduction to my visit only added to the sense of excitement as I approached the sacred precincts of the Kabah.
There are some who would see this as discriminatory. They would ask why Christians and Jews, for example, are not allowed into Makkah. They would even question the good faith of many Muslims engaging in inter-faith dialogue, suggesting that they cannot be serious about dialogue if they prevent their non-Muslim friends from visiting Makkah.
This is not the case, and I will try to explain why.
I will preface my answer by giving a few examples of my own inter-faith credentials and this might help you to understand that not admitting non-Muslims to Makkah has nothing to do with this.
In December I was in Istanbul for a meeting with some Muslim scholars. Whilst there I took the opportunity to extend a hand of friendship on behalf of Muslims to two leading figures and members of other faiths living in Turkey.
The first meeting was with His All Holiness the Patriarch of Constantinople, spiritual leader of the world's 300 million Greek Orthodox Christians. Our discussion lasted nearly two hours and was both friendly and serious.
The second meeting I had was with the Chief Rabbi of Turkey, leader of Turkey's community of about 25,000 Jews, and recognized as such since 1453 by the Ottoman Sultans.
Three weeks ago I was in London, where I met with Anglican clergy at Lambeth Palace and also with Archbishop Gregorios of Thyateira and Great Britain. Only yesterday I returned from the United States, where I had meetings with leaders of the Episcopal and Methodist Churches, as well as a meeting with the General Secretary of the National Council of the Churches of Christ of the USA.
I hope you can see from this that inter-faith dialogue is right at the top of my own list of priorities as a Muslim. Despite that, though, I can quite happily accede to the idea of not allowing non-Muslims into Makkah.
The best way I can explain it is by way of analogy. I am sure that you have married friends. Perhaps you have been to dinner with them or been out with them for the evening to the theatre or the cinema. Maybe you have spent long hours with them discussing many issues.
You will agree with me, though, that there are certain moments in the life of this married couple where it would not be appropriate for you to be present. They need time on their own to be intimate, and these times are not to be shared with others.
In exactly the same way, Muslims can be with their Christian or Jewish friends on many occasions, having fun or talking at great length, but visiting the holy city of Makkah is a time for them to be intimate with Allah alone. It is not a time for their non-Muslim friends to be with them.
Visiting Makkah either as part of Hajj, that once in a lifetime pilgrimage enjoined on all Muslims once in their lifetime, if they are able to make it, or for Umrah, the lesser pilgrimage, is a uniquely religious experience. Muslims perform the rituals of Hajj and Umrah because they have been told to do so, in imitation of Prophet Abraham (peace be upon him) and his wife Hagar. They circumambulate the Kabah, just as the angels encircle the throne of God in heaven.
Everyone present at the Kabah is there for the same reason. Muslims, and especially ladies, can feel relaxed when performing their religious duties there, in the knowledge that they are in the presence of Muslims there for the same reason.
In many societies, Muslims are put under great pressure because of the practice or because of the outward signs of their faith. In Makkah, they are there with fellow Muslims solely for the purpose of worshipping Allah.
Many Muslims weep openly on seeing the Kabah for the first time. It is truly an intimate moment to be alone with Allah in the midst of your Muslim brothers and sisters.
It is for this reason that tourism has no place in Makkah, nor its environs. I hope that this answer makes sense to you and that it will encourage you to learn even more about Hajj and about Islam itself.
I hope this answers your question. Please keep in touch.
Useful Links:
The Original Quran and the Discovery of Makkah
Visiting Makkah After Conversion
Having Churches in Saudi Arabia


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"Changing Lanes" is a film about the things folks do.
A fender bender sets the story in motion. The two drivers are Gavin Banek, a yuppie lawyer who believes money solves all problems, and Doyle Gibson, a recovering alcoholic who has problems money can't solve.
The accident occurs as both men are on their way to court. Gavin is going to file papers signed by a dying millionaire who is not fully aware of what he is doing. Doyle is going to try to get his family back.
When the accident occurs, the men respond with niceties like, "Are you OK?" Their encounter ends with Gavin handing Doyle a blank check for damage done and saying, "Better luck next time." But Gavin leaves behind a key file needed for his case. Doyle picks up the file and carries it with him.
Both arrive in court short of what they need. Gavin has lost his file, and Doyle has lost time, during which the judge grants custody of the children to Doyle's wife. From this point forward, Gavin and Doyle plan dirty tricks and moves to get back at the other.
Gavin turns off Doyle's credit, which he needs to get a mortgage to get his wife and children back. Doyle takes the lug nuts off Gavin's car.
Yet, "Changing Lanes" shows that both men are more than just the anger and rage they exhibit. They have relationships that help define them. Gavin, for example, works for a father-in-law who cheats at everything. Doyle's Alcoholics Anonymous sponsor cuts through the reality of Doyle's circumstances and gets to the real problem.
"Changing Lanes" is a hard film to watch. We see people do horrible things to each other and only then realize the wrong of what they are doing. At confession, Gavin says he is not there to confess, but does so by expressing his belief that God has placed him and Doyle in a bag and is mixing them up to see what will happen.
While watching the film, it seems obvious that if these two men would stop hurting and start helping each other, their circumstance would be better. But that would be simplistic. These men won't help each other until they are spent and willing to discover what they have learned.
And that is a beauty of the film. We see the pain that two people can inflict on each other, and we see them come to grips with the wrong they have done to themselves and their world.
"Changing Lanes" is more than a film. It is an opportunity to discover our interdependence in this ecosystem of human existence.
Mike Parnell is pastor of Burgaw Baptist Church in Burgaw, N.C.
MPAA Rating: R for strong language
Director: Roger Michell
Cast: Gavin Banek: Ben Affleck; Doyle Gipson: Samuel L. Jackson; Michelle: Toni Collette; Delano: Sydney Pollack; Cynthia Banek: Amanda Peet; Valerie Gipson: Kim Staunton; Gavin's sponsor: William Hurt.
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You may want to try the web site of the hardware maker first. Other than that, I don't know.Originally Posted by Zodiac
Well I read somewhere that Suse was the easiest Linux for newbies to get used to, and it can install next to a currently installed version of Windows XP. I have tried out the LiveCD for 9.1 and was impressed, however I noticed that it does not install a few of the drivers associated with my motherboard (Biostar M7VIT Pro). I am worried that the install will not install all of the drivers, and I am worried about switching to a different version of Linux later on and not receiving adequate driver support...
I will be trying to install the personal edition of 9.1 in a few hours and I want to know, both for now and the future where is a good resource for Linux drivers???
You may want to try the web site of the hardware maker first. Other than that, I don't know.Originally Posted by Zodiac
So if the manufacturer doesnt have Linux support you are just SOL? I also have a linksys card that is rendered useless ...
Not necessairly.
If you know what kind of chipset it uses, chances are good that there is support for it. :cow:
Absolutely not!!! the kernel is the greatest source for linux drivers, the vanill-kernel (http://www.kernel.org) has a ton of drivers already to be built. Other wise, Google is a great tool, for anything, as well as drivers. The hard part is finding out what drivers you really need.Originally Posted by Zodiac
run a 'cat /proc/pci' and see what your looking for, then let us know and we can try to help you find it.
I've had little problems with SuSE, still using it half a year later . I'm a newbie, and i've only had the problem with my sound card, and I emailed SuSE and got the help I needed. :w00t:
Just out of curiosity...what problems did you have with your sound?
I can't get any sound out of my card even though everything seems set up OK.
If you had a similar problem, I'd love to know the solution.
I have been using SuSE since 8.0 and have never had a problem that wasn't solvable. The install with YASt in SuSE has come along way since then also. I currently use 9.1 Pro and the install went flawlessly. I was up and running in about 15 minutes. Now keep in mind that I pretty much knew all the hardware specs and was able to quickly make the correct decisions in YAST to configure all my hardware. A bit of knowledge on all your hardware will go a long way with preventing problems
Yeah SUSE is a pretty good Distro. I also had problems with my sound, and I have tried two different sound cards, both based on different chipsets. I got the dvd set from novell when they were shipping it for free, and there is so many programs on that little dvd. You'll hardly want anything else, except the ability to play dvd movies...
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Blood elf death knight for me !
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The grass is always greener - The times were always better
Goblin Warrior.
Originally Posted by Surreal
Tauren rogue.
I like all your combos, well the BElf is difficult.
NElf mages should never have happened.
If you truly believe that, Blizzard, show me you mean it. Because WoD didn't show me.As long as players are happy and enjoy the game, the team doesn't mind extreme peaks and valleys. They just want to ensure you have a great experience and feel like you got your money's worth.
Tauren Paladins.
Every time I see one, I want to slap the player. And every Dev who agreed to them.
Male Night Elf Hunters. I've become jaded from all the "XXlegolasx" players from back in vanilla.
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Night elf rogues. dat shadowmeld
Pandaren Rogue
Seriously they are too Big to be sneaking about!
Tauren paladin, they look so out of place IMO
Gnome priest. As scientifically-minded inventors, surely they must have evolved beyond the point of religious mysticism.
Race: Night elf
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Race: Goblin
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good to hear it was jsut the diff! looking forward to some vids in this
Glad it was a simple fix, diff back to whoever welded that then for a refund me thinks! Glad it hadnt gone to pod and done it though, nice to see the weakness was found on the street just normal driving first! lol
Yeah it was still auto when it failed, the garage that did it arent trading anymore....
Awesome!!! Glad its all up and running mate except the minor set back.
If you need any more diffs anytime gimmie a shout also if you need a standard clutch for the w58 i have one with less than 3k miles on it.
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I took it up to pod and had a good day, it was my first skid day in a year, so took a little settling in. after playing with tyre pressures and suspension settings it was all good
Didnt enjoy it as much as i thought i would though i think going from the no fucks given s14 to a car i didnt want to damage or abuse too much on its first outing took the edge off slightly...
The only downer of the day was when i came into the hairpin on the handbrake and had a blow out, sending me off into that giant blue petrol can thing
Thats after straightening my folded over exhaust!
I tried the classic t-cut but it wouldnt touch it. But cannon saved it using something called G3
Decided to sort my blocked exhaust by getting Jim to cut the back boxes open, rip out all the insides and weld them back up.
This worked well and sounded awesome....until the underside of one of the boxes developed a 10" split a week later, making the most hideous rattle.
So got the grinder out and just cut the boxes off! Lol
Does look a but odd without them though
Went out for a "drive" last night with a few of the usual suspects. I "drove" round a wet roundabout and managed to take my passenger rear tyre off the rim making a horrible metal on tarmac noise
Limped it up to a petrol station to try and blow it back up but the piss weak air machine was no use. So had to put the spare on
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By: Nick O'Bryan
"The truth is, everyone is going to hurt you. You just got to find the ones worth suffering for."- Bob Marley
This may be a reference to actual people, but I think in this situation it encompasses my feelings on the Noles quite nicely. It was an emotional roller coaster on Saturday. I have gone through most of my grieving process and can now type words into the computer again. Seems like it is coming down to a, "what have we learned this season" kind of year, instead of what we hoped to be a national title year. So, why don't we take time to review what we have learned?
1. The ACC is bad, and I mean really really bad. Georgia Tech lost to Georgia, Vandy beat Wake Forrest, Clemson lost to South Carolina, AND UF beat our Florida State Seminoles. Yeah, the SEC is good.
2. Jimbo Fisher should not be running the offense from the field. Some programs still do it and are successful, but someone has got to be calling Jimbo Fisher's plays from the booth. There are so many things that get missed from a field-level that might be better called from above.
3. 5th year senior quarterback E.J. Manuel never met his full potential this year. As the year has progressed it has taken longer and longer to get to the line of scrimmage with the play, and once there, it seems like E.J. then runs a completely different play altogether. He hasn't been checking down properly, and in panic situations did not throw the ball away but chose to often make poor decisions which put his health and our ball security in jeopardy.
4. FSU has to step up it's out of conference schedule to help with computer rankings and honestly team preparation. If you don't have consistent experience against big time opponents, it is hard to gauge where you are, and make adjustments to prepare for big games down the road.
These are a few. I apologize if I missed some, but those are the basics. There are a few more things that must be addressed. There is a panic going on around the fact that FSU is still in the ACC. Let's just say hypothetically, that FSU beat NC State (as they should have) and UF. I guarantee no one would care where Maryland is going or why, because we would be booking flights to Miami, and not for the ORANGE BOWL. Winning cures everything. To put it in perspective, Jags commentators and team Management have been trying to figure out how to take the tarps off the seats and sell tickets. They added Wifi and cool activities around the stadium thinking that is how to do it. I've got a little nugget for you, if the Jaguars win, then people will go see them. It is much the same for the Noles. When you are winning, you don't have to study BCS computer's schemes and pray that this team will beat that team. It doesn't matter when you win.
Also, reports are in that Mark Stoops will be leaving FSU to become the Head Coach at Kentucky. By the time you read this, it will have already been announced so it won't be such ground breaking news. The thing to take away from this is that as FSU fans we grew up with the same coaches our whole lives. At other schools things don't work that way. FSU will find a great D coordinator in the off-season and everything will be just fine. Tallahassee was not ever long-term for Mark Stoops and his departure is not a huge surprise. I mean, the guy only ever wore ONE shirt the whole time he was here.
In closing, if I had to put a title on this year it would most likely be, The Worst 10 Win Year Ever!!! Part of this is being in the south where the SEC is king and losing to Florida, but right now we need to hope that the team is focusing every bit of its attention to beating Georgia Tech. Because as Chadd Scott of 1010xl stated on the radio, "it would take this year from a disappointment, to a tragedy." Winning the ACC needs to be the Noles ONLY priority right now.
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Junior forward Corey Christ of Cal State San Bernardino has been named CCAA Player of the Week for men's soccer.
The Glendale, Ariz., tallied three goals in a 5-1 win over Dixie State.
Christ became the first Coyote in four seasons to score three goals in a game since All-American Obi Agwu last accomplished the feat on Oct. 3, 2010 against Cal State East Bay, a 3-1 victory.
Christ leads the Coyotes in scoring with five goals and the Coyotes are 4-0 on the season, their best start in five seasons. They resume play Friday, Sept. 26 in the CCAA opener at Cal Poly Pomona.
Christ is the first Coyote to earn the conference honor since All-American GK Tanner Olinger was named on Sept. 10, 2012.


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There were many things that I discovered about Tasmania on our first trip; their weather is unpredictable, their folk are super friendly, their landscape is breathtaking and their food is more than just good, it is brilliant. We were hard pressed to find somewhere that wasn't fabulous and what I loved most of all was their locally farmed oysters. I became a crazed fool insisting on eating oysters at every opportunity and I struggled to go for more than a a day without fulfilling my addiction.
We were house-siting in the North Hobart area which is a just a stone's throw away from the CBD. This conveniently allowed me to hit up some of the best places in town without much effort. One cold midweek evening I knocked off for the day from my locum job at the Hobart Cat Clinic and joined the Boy for a brisk walk into town to the Westend Pumphouse. The Pumphouse is a relatively new venue that recently debuted in The Financial Review's Top Restaurants of Australia.
A weekend in Esperance Western AustraliaPosted by Beach, Goldfields, Modern Australian, Pub, Regional WA, Travel | Categories:
Geographical separation has never had any impact on the bond I have with my best friend, Kate. Through the course of our fifteen years of Bestie-hood we have only lived in the same city for about half this time. We are not that good at regularly calling each other on the phone, in fact we are both shockers, yet within seconds of hearing each other's voice we immediately lapse into our crazy way of talking that no one else on this Earth can ever seem to replicate. It's actually like our own language. We have a way of bringing out the best in each other and I know that if anyone can turn my frown upside-down it will most definitely be Kate.
Gluten Free Overload at The Brisbane Hotel's Roast & RedPosted by Bars, Events, Featured, Perth, Pub, Restaurants | Categories:
For many years The Brisbane Hotel was one of our regular Sunday Session drinking holes. However in recent years our careers, families and a hint of maturity have replaced these fun-filled afternoons making them less and less frequent. Furthermore since becoming a food blogger, I find myself searching out new venues to visit rather than returning to our tried and tested favourites. Consequently, I confess I haven't eaten at the Brisbane for well over a year, maybe longer. Last week I received an invitation to come along to their wintertime Tuesday "Roast and Red" night.
Tuesday isn't exactly a night that I would expect to see people out and about yet the Brisbane was alive with activity with customers drinking at the bar as well as those dining in. We were shown to our table and I was offered the "dietary requirements menu". This wasn't just the normal menu with scribbles and lines drawn across it but rather a specifically printed menu filled with gluten free and vegetarian options. This was a quick and easy way to impress me as there were loads of options on there including gluten free pizzas.
The Boheme Bar and Restaurant, Perth CityPosted by Bars, Perth, Pub, Restaurants | Categories:
There are some people who come and go in your life. And then there are some people who make such an impact on you that no matter how far you are separated from them geographically, your friendship remains as strong as ever. My dear friend Melinda is easily the bravest person I have ever met. Aside from being a gorgeous person with a crazy sense of humour who is fiercely loyal to her friends AND a wonderful mother to her child, she was also born with cystic fibrosis. Over the course of her life, step by step her lung function deteriorated to the point that her home became the hospital ward located hours away from her husband and daughter on the Eastern coast of New South Wales. I was lucky enough to travel to Sydney on a business trip back in late 2011 and be able to spend every afternoon hanging out with her in the hospital whilst she sat out the long and scary wait on the transplant list. After several false alarms where the doctors called off the surgery at the last moment, she finally received her double lung transplant at a time when nearly all hope was lost.
Less than impressed with Little Creatures Brewery, FremantlePosted by Brewery, Featured, Perth, Pub, Restaurants | Categories:
For the first few years as a university student I lived just out of Fremantle and since then it has always felt like the stomping ground of my youth. Back in those days I was a bit quirky and leftfield meaning that I fitted in quite well with the other interesting types you could find walking through Freo's old streets. Returning there brings back many memories of what was literally a life time ago for me. In those years gone by, the popular Little Creatures Brewery didn't even exist and its predecessor was a massive crocodile farm of all things! You could pay to go in and have a look and I remember going through there with my Dad and finding the whole thing rather disturbing yet oddly fascinating.
Food for Champions at the Rose & Crown, GuildfordPosted by Featured, Hotels, Modern Australian, Perth, Pub, Restaurants, Swan Valley | Categories:
In order to operate as a successful veterinary hospital, good teamwork is absolutely essential. No single individual is more important than any other and each one of our staff members, from our receptionists to our nurses through to our vets, all have key roles in caring for our patients and their humans. To help further develop our teamwork skills, every year our business puts on a Team Building Day. It is always a day of fun and adventure ending with prizes, food and lots of laughter. Our most recent day involved an Amazing Race-styled car rally across the Northern suburbs of Perth with volunteers help enlisted from husbands and wives to man all the check points. We climbed rock faces, cuddled koalas and collected a variety of trinkets and tokens to end the day at our Practice Manager's beach shack in Ledge Point.
Make it all legal at the Crown Promenade and The Merrywell, Crown PerthPosted by Accommodation, Featured, Hotels, Luxury, Perth, Pub, Restaurants, Wedding | Categories:
In March this year, I married the love of my life in the most magical fairy-tale wedding of my dreams. Because we chose to get married in Thailand, our wedding was not legally recognised back in Australia unless we made a pre-wedding pilgrimage to Bangkok to arrange the necessary papers. Prior to getting hitched, the Boy and I had already spent more than ten years together and we had always celebrated our anniversary in April often with much greater enthusiasm than for either of our birthdays. It seemed logical to us, that upon our return from Thailand we would arrange a very private official ceremony back in Perth specifically on our anniversary date. This enabled us to invite special friends that weren't for able to join us in Thailand. It also means we now get to celebrate TWO anniversaries! 😉
The Precinct, Victoria Park RevisitedPosted by Bars, Modern Australian, Perth, Pub, Restaurants, Wine Bar | Categories:
I have lived in the Vic Park area for nearly twenty years and have loved watching the neighbourhood develop and grow. It is a great place to live for numerous reasons but in my humble opinion one of the biggest selling factors is the variety of restaurants and cafes sitting right on our doorstep. I'm certain we nearly have the "A to Z" of international cuisine and so we never seem to run out of options. One of our regular haunts in the past has been The Precinct; a casual but funky eatery only a short fifteen minute stroll from our front door. The past few months my life has been exceedingly complicated and stressful and so when my Bestie proposed to me to catch up with another mutual close friend of ours Shannon I leaped at the opportunity to be able to switch off and relax. To make things even easier for me, Shannon was more than happy to travel over to our stompin' ground and let us go local. Getting a booking at the last-minute on a Friday night can be tricky and after several phone calls to different restaurants I was starting to think we were out of luck. Finally we had success and managed to secure a table at the Precinct, seeing as we hadn't been there for a several months we were happy to return.
A Baby Shower at Feral Brewing Company, Swan ValleyPosted by Featured, Modern Australian, Perth, Restaurants, Swan Valley, Winery | Categories:
Although I'm not really a baby person it is hard not to get excited when a close friend falls pregnant. One of our long-term vets is nearly at the end of her first pregnancy and she is one of those gentle, nurturing types that just seems to be born to be a mother. The joys of anticipation for the approaching arrival were very infectious amongst us women at work, so in a rather unconventional styled baby shower we all gathered together at Feral Brewing Company for a Sunday lunch to celebrate. It was the first sunny day in weeks and it was heavenly to be able to enjoy some country sunshine.
Food Styling and Photography Workshops with Billy Law @ The Terrace HotelPosted by Accommodation, Events, Featured, Modern Australian, Perth, Restaurants | Categories:
As I approach my blog's second birthday in September this year, I have been reflecting back on what I have achieved in these past two years. Starting from humble and amateurish beginnings I have strived to improve both my writing and photography style and understand this will forever be a learning curve for me. This constant growth and development gives a great sense of achievement and satisfaction. Blogging is and always will be my hobby and finding enough time alongside my day job as a small animal vet can sometimes be a bit of a challenge!
Miss Kitty's Saloon, InglewoodPosted by Bars, Breakfast/Brunch, Canadian, Featured, Perth, Pub, Restaurants | Categories:
For those that know me, you will agree that I'm not a calm or quiet person. Nor do I tend to run out of things to say. With some people I can sense this personality trait of mine can be a little over bearing yet with others it creates a spark for even more animated conversation. One of my dear blogging friends Amanda from Chew Town shares a similar passion for words and during one of her return trips to Perth we caught up for some brunch and a "talk-off". We cannot agree between us who can talk more and happily settled for a tie after this round. She is always keen to try new places around Perth having left our sunny city some years ago so after throwing a few options around we agreed on Miss Kitty's Saloon in Inglewood. I mean, anything that refers to felines in its business name has to be good!
The Stables Bar, Perth CBDPosted by Bars, European, Featured, Modern Australian, Perth, Restaurants, Wine Bar | Categories:
Our main wholesaler we use at work wanted to do something interesting as a thank you to their valued clients and so they organised a night out to see Cirque de Soleil's latest touring production Ovo. Our practice was lucky enough, or should I say valued enough, to receive four tickets. Having never been to see this internationally famous Show I was the first one to put up my hand to go. It seems that everyone who wanted to go already had their own tickets and those who didn't have a ticket weren't that keen. Although we are now creeping into June, on the afternoon of the show the sun was shining defiantly outside like a Spring Day and so the Boy suggested we walk into the city and stop somewhere earlier for dinner. I jumped at the opportunity to work on reducing my restaurant wish list which is currently longer than my arm. Near the top of my list was The Stables Bar in the CBD a convenient ten minute walk from the circus's marquee.
The Publican Bar, Victoria ParkPosted by Bars, Featured, Modern Australian, Perth, Pub, Restaurants | Categories:
Some of you may recall my unusual Australia Day weekend this year. It started off at our local pub The Broken Hill Hotel where we munched on casual pub food with drinks a plenty and could even see the fireworks show from where we sat on their balcony. A far cry from our usual annual party extravaganza we hold at our house but a great night out all the same. The reason for such a tame national holiday you see was that the weekend preceeding this relaxing weekend happened to be my Hen's day. In true Chompchomp style I burnt all my candles at both ends and managed to come out with a fair share of bruises coupled a strained joint in my spine. It was worth it; we had a total hoot of a time but entertaining and cooking for the masses was out of my capabilities that following weekend.
Celebrating Australia Day at The Broken Hill Hotel, Victoria ParkPosted by Desserts, Featured, Hotels, Modern Australian, Perth, Pub, Restaurants | Categories:
We traditionally celebrate Australia Day in our household by throwing a Triple J Hottest 100 countdown pool party. Joined by our close friends we devour lots of good food, drinks a plenty and generally end our night with a short stroll to the end of the street to view the fireworks show. In the ten years we have lived in this house we have only had one year off when I had the misfortune to be rostered on to work.
On the weekend prior to Australia Day this year it was my Hen's day. It was a fabulous day out in the Swan Valley which turned into a Hen's night with many of us boogying on the dance floor of Geisha nightclub until the wee hours of the morning. I had an absolutely ball of a time and am so grateful for all that came to the various parts of the day and night to celebrate with me.
The Karalee on Preston, ComoPosted by Featured, Hotels, Modern Australian, Perth, Pub, Restaurants | Categories:
The Bestie's birthday weekend fortunately coincided with her parent's return from their month-long holiday in Vietnam. Her parents live in southern Western Australian in a town called Esperance which is about a ten hour drive from Perth. This means she doesn't get to see them as often as she would like and having them in Perth for her birthday was a bit of a treat. To make the most of the occasion, she agreed to stretch out her celebrations over two nights starting with her parents cooking up a storm for us at their friends' house followed by a casual night out at the Karalee Tavern in Como.
Wedding band shopping, Subiaco Hotel and some Geláre gluten free wafflesPosted by Desserts, Featured, Modern Australian, Perth, Pub, Restaurants, Wedding | Categories:
It is finally getting close enough to our wedding to start to feel the buzz and excitement and relieved to say I think I am pretty well set. Well, at least for the important stuff!. I have found the perfect dress from Luci Di Bella, I am blessed with two of the most awesome bridesmaids who also have fabulous dresses, I have a choice of stunning Dior or Jimmy Choo bridal shoes and our wedding venue at Andara, Phuket is something dreams are made of. Best of all; I have found the most amazing man who I could have ever wished to marry. Naw, that's enough gushing for one post I think!
My engagement ring was designed at Linneys; a well-known West Australian jeweller famous for their Broome pearls and Argyle diamonds and it seemed fitting to return there for our wedding bands. We both arrived wide-eyed and smiling as the reality of our big day approaching fast sunk in. We helped each other deliberate over all the beautiful wedding band designs and each ended up selecting ones we both loved.
Stuffing my face at V Burger BarPosted by Burgers & Snags, Desserts, Fast Food, Perth, Pub, Restaurants | Categories:
We are not big eaters of classic fast food; I'm talking burgers, pizza, kebabs and the like. Ultimately I prefer much more refined dining but let's be honest, one simply cannot afford to do that every weekend. At least not on my income. So when we both got a craving for junk, we decided to head to our local V Burger Bar excited about our naughty treat. Last year our initial attempts at visiting this popular place resulted in us being diverted over to Pancho's Mexican Villa due to a lack of gluten free buns. Now that was some night…..sloppy microwaved food, blistering burns and a scathing retaliation from a fan (or owner) in the wake of my review; the Pancho's post has certainly become infamous!
The Precinct, Victoria ParkPosted by Coffee, Perth, Pub, Restaurants, Tapas Bar, Wine Bar | Categories:
I had been stuffing my face with scrumptious gluten free cakes at the Clandestine Cake Club all afternoon. Despite my gluttony I wasn't feeling overly full and seeing as the Boy had actually gone to the effort to book us a dinner reservation at The Precinct in Victoria Park so I couldn't exactly refuse. Being the obsessed foodie of the house, I am generally the one who arranges our regular eating expeditions and so I get very excited when the Boy does it all for me. I was hoping I could extend my afternoon with the bestie and drag her along too especially as she hadn't hung out with the both of us in some time. However my powers of persuasion were seemingly dulled by all my cake indulgence because she declined my pleading to return home to study for her yoga teacher training class the following day.
Epilogue: The George and Our Engagement PartyPosted by Perth, Pub, Restaurants, Wedding | Categories:
Do you remember when we celebrated our Engagement Party late last year at The George?
Although everyone had a fabulous evening, our night was tainted by some terribly rude attitudes and comments coming from the bar staff upon our departure from the venue. To make matters worse, they then refused to call us any taxis and left us standing outside the hotel well into the wee hours of the morning.
In the course of the following few weeks I tried via various methods to speak with one of the managers in order to retrieve my iPod that I left at the venue. After weeks of her avoiding my contact (including refusing to meet me as I stood outside the venue) it was too late and the iPod was nowhere to be found. I wrote a formal letter of complaint to the Venue Manager detailing all my grievances. I thought some of you may be interested in reading their reply…..
Gnarabar Bar and Bistro, Margaret RiverPosted by Featured, Margaret River, Pub, Regional WA, Restaurants, Travel | Categories:
What a horrific week it's been for me! This persistent stomach bug has put me out of action for the whole week!. It started brewing on my wedding dress shopping day with my bestie and then developed more dramatically into a further two days at home in bed. I always get racked with guilt whenever I take a sick day as everyone else's work load increases to compensate for my absence. So when I woke up on the fourth day and managed to hold a piece of toast down I figured surely I must be good to go. I was wrong and a few hours later my manager sent me home ashen-faced and dizzy.


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It's really the little things that give The Americans such high quality. Whether it's an inconsequential, at the time, conversation between two characters or the threat of very consequential changes that have yet to happen that make the show as enjoyable and tense as it is.
"A Little Night Music" is one such episode. While there were plenty of huge moments, including the shocking end scene, it will probably be the now innocuous happenings that will have the biggest impact.
"A Little Night Music" threw a complete wrench in the works with the return of Phillip and Elizabeth's former handler, Claudia. She tasks the two with finding the killer(s) of Emmet and Leanne, seemingly sincerely wanting vengeance. However, this is not a Centre sanctioned mission. Claudia's number one suspect is a Navy Seal named Larek and Elizabeth needs to get his files. But none of this seems exactly legitimate. Claudia's random reappearance and her immediate fingering of Larek casts some doubt over her true motives, regardless of what she says. Elizabeth begins to work Brad, a Naval officer who has access to Larek's file, but not everything goes to plan – maybe.
Elizabeth's game plan is somewhat cloudy. Originally she approaches Brad like any other mark, sex him up and have him do whatever you want, but before they are about to hook up in a motel room she stops. What look like genuine emotions from Elizabeth, and not the character she is playing, end up forcing her from the motel room. This is one of those aforementioned little moments. While it would have been nice to know for sure whether this was part of her game or not it certainly adds some more complexity to the show and her potential relationship.
This incident results in Claudia giving Elizabeth a pep talk, in which she tells Elizabeth she believes Elizabeth is afraid since being shot – another classic Claudia and Elizabeth back and forth. More interesting, however, is how Claudia is painting Larek as a force to be truly reckoned with. Whether it comes to fruition or not it looks like there may be a true villain introduced. Later, when Elizabeth forces herself to manually service Brad in the car because he is unsure about risking his skin to get the files it is clear that Elizabeth is not nearly as comfortable as she once was. It remains to be seen whether this strong move will end up making Brad suspicious of Elizabeth's rape story she told him earlier.
Phillip was central to two of the other three little moments of the episode. First Frank, Stan's boss, is relieved of his duties at the FBI in the wake of Stan's shooting of Dameron from last week's episode. This will almost certainly have serious repercussions on Stan and probably for Elizabeth and Phillip. It also becomes the catalyst for Stan to reveal most to Phillip. While talking at a bar, Stan talks about shooting Dameron and quickly tells Phillip that he is having an affair, which Phillip already knew. He lies about who the affair is with but there's no way this doesn't come back later in the season. Stan opening up to Phillip about this could mean a whole spectrum of possibilities down the line, from Stan revealing FBI secrets to Phillip trying to get Centre to stop using Nina as a double agent.
Later, Phillip has a fight with Martha over little things, which seems like a way for him to have more excuses to not spend nights over at her house. This almost immediately comes back to bite him as Martha, who can't reach Phillip because he's on a mission to kidnap Anton (to be discussed later), finally gets around to filling out the application for the promotion Phillip suggested to her. On the application there is a marital status question, which also requires the name of your spouse. Martha leaves a message for Phillip saying that she is tired of hiding it and she will put his name in the box if he doesn't respond. Again, the fight is a seemingly little moment that could have dire consequences depending on if Martha can turn in the form.
Unfortunately for Phillip, he can't call Martha back because he and Elizabeth are about to kidnap Anton. Right after Phillip puts Anton in the trunk, two random trained agents – affiliation unknown – come out of nowhere and attack Phillip and Elizabeth. After a knockdown, drag out fight, the female agent drives off with the car that has Anton in the trunk and leaves her male counterpart with Phillip and Elizabeth in the middle of an indistinct Washington D.C. neighborhood. "A Little Night Music" ends there.
Next to nothing is known about these operatives. Claudia's return is very suspicious but the Anton mission was a Centre mission and Claudia at least seemed to be working on her own accord. Could these agents be the two who killed Emmet and Leanne? And if so, under whose jurisdiction are they? It was a shocking moment that was beautifully set up with the previous scene of Phillip and Elizabeth arguing over Paige's newfound religious zeal, courtesy of her new friend Kelly.
Phillip and Elizabeth have clear reservations about this with Elizabeth invoking her Communist beliefs while also worrying about her safety. And Paige's reasoning that her family is screwed up also adds another worry to her parents' thoughts. But it is good to see Paige given something a little more believable to do for her character after last week's leap with her bust trip to Harrisburg.
Last, things at the Soviet Embassy have hit a bit of a snag as well. Oleg, tired of not being a priority for Arkady, uses his family connections to get him a security clearance. Instead of reading why his project was canceled he decides to read Nina's reports about Stan. Arkady lets Nina know that Oleg doesn't yet have access to the files that outline her original betrayal but Nina knows it's only a matter of time.
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Bladnoch 20 Year Old
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- Lowland Single Malt Scotch Whisky
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Another bargain from Bladnoch, whose lip-smacking drinkability & extra-keen pricing has really endeared this small independent distillery to the connoisseurs since its revival by Raymond Armstrong. Bladnoch's single malts are not chill-filtered, meaning that they may go a little cloudy when cold. Don't panic - this is a natural reaction and doesn't affect the flavour one iota.
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Initially very buttery on the nose but, as its allowed to breathe, the buttery-ness dies down and is replaced with toffee-apples and a background hint of grass / hay. On the palate, there is a definite taste of violets, an almost soapy taste with a citrus background. This is not the smoothest of whiskies and the heat increases towards the finish. Overall; different, interesting and, for my personal preference; spot-on for a light whisky.


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Steering issues - any suggestions
Purchased a 2000 F350 4x4 RCLB 212k - 285/65/16 (33's) Goodyear Tires - New only 2k on them...and I've been spending time getting the maintenance up to speed - ususal stuff - fluids- filters,, cleaning etc..
It does have a front leveling kit on it.. no idea if a drop track bar has been added.. the track bar is not adjustable.
Tie rods are okay,, Track Bar bushings I beleive are okay,, got under it while someone turned the whell back and forth.. No real play there...
Onto the steering. when I bought it would dart left to right, kinda hard to keep on the road. Checked this forum out.. you guys said it was the steering box.. so replaced with a Red Head steering box. - Steering improved... no longer darting.. but now it wanders
Noticed thumps on my bumpy road where I live.. checked the sway bar bushings.. they are shot.. so replaced them.. that also helped and the thump was gone.
Still wanders though.. steering is tight no play but just wont stay in the center of the road. Got back on here and looked like the ball joints.
Ordered a kit (MOOG) to do upper/lower with seals.. etc.. - steering is tighter but still wanders... Did further looking,, suggestions point to a steering stabilizer... truck didn't have one.. so threw one on.. it helped.
Checked air pressure 65ps in front.. dropped that to 55 and that helped as well. thinking about trying 45psi when empty
So a combination of things have helped but it still wanders.
Measured TOE - about 1/4" in on the front.. seems fine/to spec.
Yes I'm aware this is a 1 ton truck and it has a leveling kit on it... but just doesn't seem to steer correctly. Sort of always have to correct the steering wheel for it to drive straight.. like I mentioned.. no play you can feel left to right... the steering box engage, but then .. ugh hard to explain,, it just doesn't track straight down the road,, is the best term I can give it.
Now the only thing I can think of is the track bar bushing are a bit worn causing it to wander a bit... I ordered the two bushings, fairly inexpensive anyways.... at least compared to what I've done. And possibly the leaf spring eye bushings are worn? Those are really the only other two components to this steering that could be replaced to fix the issue....
I have thought about removing the leveling kit to see if that is causing caster issues but looking for help at this point?
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With the third pick in the 2010 MLB Draft, the Baltimore Orioles have selected Manny Machado, SS, Brito Private HS (FL).
Vitals & School:
- Miami Brito HS
- 6′ 3″
- 190 lbs
- Born: 7/6/1992
Scouting Report:
- hits with authority, potential for good power
- will lose speed as he matures and may move to 3B, questionable range
- plus arm strength
- big, strong, athletic, smooth swing
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#Orioles scouting director Joe Jordan on Machado signing concerns: "He's going to be a Baltimore Oriole. I have no doubt about that."
Manny Machado is on twitter: @MannyMachado3
Andy Seiler had this to say about the O's pick:
It's hard to go wrong when you pick the best available player on almost everyone's board, and that's what they did when they got Manny Machado.
Overall thoughts:
The Orioles did exactly what they were expected to do, which was take whoever the Pittsburgh Pirates did not take between Machado and Jameson Taillon. They got the best player available and got themselves what looks like a future all-star shortstop.
Scouting information from MLB.com's draft report.


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LONDON -- Fraternal twins Grant and Ross James led the U.S. men's 8+ to a first-place finish in heat 1 of the Olympic men's rowing eight heats at the 2012 Olympic Summer Games in London on Saturday morning.
Grant and Ross, who rowed directly behind one another in seat 2 and seat 3, respectively, and the rest of the U.S. squad beat out Australia with a time of 5:30.72 to reach Wednesday's final.
Heat 1 included the U.S., Australia, Poland and Ukraine, with the James brothers and Co. edging out the Australians by a half-length. The U.S. will now move on to the finals where they will join Germany. The remainder of the field will compete in the repechage for a spot in the final on Aug. 1.
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