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With football season underway, it's crowded in the stadium and in the doctor's office. Many of us have witnessed a player shaken up and carried off the field after a big hit.
If we measure our child's development in milestones then potty training is a big one! I think that most toddlers are ready to be "involved" in the bathroom when they are about 18 months old.
They fly, crawl and can ruin a perfect summer day. Bugs are creeping everywhere this time of year and there is only one way to keep them at bay...insect repellent.
Swimming may be one of the best ways to beat the summer heat, but that may also mean your child is at risk for developing a painful swimmer's ear known as otitis externa.
Some times you see them and sometimes you don't. But mosquitoes are out there and some carry the deadly West Nile Virus.
Lazy days by the pool are a warm weather ritual for many families. But, if your child is spending a lot of time outdoors, you need to make sure they are protected from the sun.
Are you and your kids planning to cool off in a pool this summer? Beware.. the Center for Disease Control and Prevention wants you to know about the hidden dangers that may be lurking in the water.
If you are planning the perfect summer getaway with your family, don't let motion sickness spoil your plans.
When it comes to childhood milestones, learning how to ride a bike is a major one!
Allergy season is literally in full bloom with flowers, trees and grasses all contributing to the sneezing, itchy eyes, runny noses and coughs which are seen in allergic children.
I have been visiting my mother for an "early Mother's Day" celebration and she and I spent an evening reminiscing about all of the advice she has given me over the years.
Just when you thought your child was a good sleeper, you are now being awakened by them with a tap on the shoulder and them saying "I'm scared mom".
As long as school is in session, lice (pediculus capitis) will be a problem.
Every day, thousands of children wake up every morning afraid to go to school.
There is a lot of pressure placed on students to succeed and many of them are turning to what teens call the "good grade pill". What is it?
I received an email from a dad who was concerned his son is drinking. Early use of alcohol can draw teens into a host of problems and aggravate existing ones.
Cold temperatures continue to linger in some parts of the country but the calendar says spring has sprung ushering in spring allergy season.
If there is one thing that everyone "hates" about going to the doctor's office it is the wait.
By the time new parents bring their baby home from the hospital, they have been given a list of dos and don'ts when it comes to sleeping.
Tips on potty training your toddler
Fish are high in several beneficial nutrients, including some that are related to healthy brain development.
Headlines recently announced the death of Cory Monteith, one of the stars of the TV show Glee.
The modified saying Music soothes the savage beast may have new applications in the modern world of medicine. New research suggests that music may help some children experience less discomfort when dealing with low level or moderate pain.
Do you remember your first period? I do. Even though it has been many years since that fateful day, I can recall the experience as if it happened yesterday. I was 13 years old and walking home from school. Something felt odd as I took each step something wet.
Many adults and kids have switched to diet drinks to help reduce their calorie intake. In fact, children who drink sugar-free beverages have doubled in the past 10 years according to a study released in 2012.
Is there ever really a perfect time to start a family? If you're in the planning stage or wanting to grow your family you might want to rule out the month of May for conception.
If your teenager tells you that he or she has a stomach ache it might be more than just an excuse to get out of doing something you've asked them to do.
Our typical sizzling summer has officially begun and temperatures are rising across the nation. My thermostat isn't reading as hot as some places like southern California (currently 114 degrees), but it's still pretty toasty outside.
Kids get runny noses. But is it caused by allergies, a simple cold or something more serious like a sinus infection? If your child has a history of sinus infections, a new review of clinical guidelines may be just what the doctor ordered.
When brothers and sisters pick on, harass, hit, punch, kick, insult and generally harass other siblings they're not typically identified as bullies. The response is more often kids will be kids.
The human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine is producing remarkable results in teenage girls by cutting infections in half. A new study measures the vaccines impact since it came on the market in 2006.
Only about half of teen girls in the U.S. have gotten at least one dose of the expensive vaccine, and just a third of teen girls have had all three shots, according to the latest government figures.
"These are striking results and I think they should be a wake-up call that we need to increase vaccination rates," said Dr. Thomas Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The CDC study compared infection rates in girls 14 to 19 before and after the vaccine became available. The proportion infected with the targeted HPV strains dropped 56 percent, from about 12 percent before the vaccine was sold to 5 percent. That result was for all teens after it was on the market, whether or not they were vaccinated.
Among girls who had gotten the vaccine, the drop in HPV infections was higher " 88 percent.
For the vaccine to be effective, 3 shots have to be given over a period of 6 months. There are two vaccines against HPV, but the study only looked at Gardasil. Both vaccines are approved for use in males and females " ages 9 to 26 for females and ages 9 to 21 in males.
The study involved interviews and physical examinations of nearly 1,400 teen girls in 2003 through 2006 and of 740 girls in 2007 through 2010.
The vaccine's impact was seen even though only 34 percent of the teens in the second group had received any vaccine. That could be due to "herd immunity" " when a population is protected from an infection because a large or important smaller group is immune.
Some parents have balked at having their children and teens vaccinated for a sexually transmitted disease out of concern that it could encourage sexual activity. Frieden said the vaccination is meant to protect them when they become adul
The rotavirus vaccine is definitely one vaccine you want to make sure your child gets.
Rotavirus is a gastrointestinal disease that causes an inflammation of the stomach and intestines. It can produce severe diarrhea along with vomiting, fever and abdominal pain. Dehydration is often a side effect and globally, its responsible for more than half a million deaths each year in children under the age of five.
This disease is bad news for youngsters, but since the Rotarix and RotaTeq vaccines were introduced - U.S. children have benefited greatly from the protection.
Most parents are good about making sure their kids receive all the recommended vaccines, but many wonder how effective these vaccines really are. A new study says that the rotavirus vaccines are 91-92 percent effective for children 8 months and older. Thats an excellent result.
The study, led by Margaret M. Cortese, MD, of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, aimed to find out the effectiveness of the rotavirus vaccine.
There are several types of rotavirus vaccines. Researchers looked at the effectiveness of the monovalent vaccine called RV1- that came out in 2008. They also reviewed data on the pentavalent vaccine RV5.
The researchers gathered files on all children who went to one of five hospitals in Georgia and Connecticut with severe diarrhea lasting no more than 10 days.
The children were all born after the RV1 vaccine had been introduced (2008).
The researchers tested their stools for rotavirus and looked at their immunization records.
The researcher then compared the vaccination history of the children who had rotavirus to those who did not have rotavirus.
There were 165 children who had rotavirus in their stool and 428 who tested negative for it.
When the researchers compared these groups, they found the RV1 rotavirus vaccine was 91 perce
Baby Matters LLC is voluntarily recalling its foam rubber Nap Nanny and Nap Nanny Chill infant recliners and their covers, in exchange for the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) dropping an administrative complaint that it filed in December 2012.
From 2009 to the present, the Commission staff has received at least 92 incident reports involving the Nap Nanny and Nap Nanny Chill products, including five infant deaths. CPSC is aware of four infants who died in Nap Nanny Generation Two recliners and a fifth death involved in the Chill model. In the incident reports received by CPSC, there were 92 reports of infants hanging or falling over the side of the products, including some infants who were restrained in the products harness.
In December 2012, four major retailers"Amazon.com, Buy Buy Baby, Diapers.com, and Toys R Us/Babies R Us"announced a voluntary recall of Nap Nanny and Chill models sold in their stores. Consumers who purchased a Nap Nanny from one of these retailers should contact the retailer for instructions on how to obtain a refund for the product.
About 165,000 of the Nap Nanny and Chill products were sold between 2009 and 2012 for about $130. The recalled products were sold at toy and children's retail stores nationwide and online, including at www.napnanny.com.
Baby Matters LLC is no longer in business and is not accepting returns. CPSC urges consumers to immediately dispose of the products to ensure that they are not used again.
Consumer contact:
- Amazon.com:http://www.amazon.com
- Buy Buy Baby: Toll-free at (877) 328-9222,http://www.buybuybaby.com/productRecalls.asp
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The esteemed Pew Research Center, a non-partisan think tank that conducts public opinion polls and demographic research and analysis, came up with five facts about fathers that are interesting.
Over the last thirty years, the roles fathers play in the lives of their children have changed. Some might say for the better.
While there are still way too many children growing up without a father, many dads are making a dedicated and heartfelt effort to be more involved in their child's life.
So, in keeping with dad appreciation week as we build up to Father's Day next Sunday, here are five facts you may not know about dear old dad.
1. The Census Bureau estimates that last year there were about 189,000 stay-at-home dads, defined as married fathers with children younger than 15 who stayed out of the labor force for at least one year primarily to care for the family while their wife works outside the home. Those dads cared for an estimated 369,000 children.
2. In 2009 there were about 2.4 million custodial fathers (that is, raising their children while the mother was living elsewhere), versus 11.2 million custodial mothers, according to a Census Bureau report. About 619,000 custodial fathers were due child support; collectively, they received about $1.9 billion.
3. Fathers have nearly tripled the amount of time they spend with their children, from 2.5 hours in 1965 to 7.3 hours per week in 2011, according to a Pew Research report that analyzed years of time-use data. Despite that increase, 46% of fathers said they spent too little time with their children, compared with 23% of mothers who said the same; half of dads said they spent the right amount of time.
4. More than three-quarters of new fathers took one week or less off from work after the birth or adoption of their most recent child, according to a 2011 Boston College study of fath
Kids and water: They may not want to drink a lot of it, but they sure love to play in it. Now that the magical season of summer is almost here, there will be a lot of children doing just that. While you may think you already know everything there is to know on water safety, its still a good idea for parents, guardians and babysitters to freshen-up on ways to help keep kids safe when around or in water.
The good news, according to a study published by the Bloomberg School of Public Health at John Hopkins University in 2012, is that more parents ARE paying attention to water safety. Children dying from drowning"related incidents have declined dramatically since the early 1990s.
Unfortunately, more than 1,000 U.S. children still die from drowning and another 5,000 are injured every year. Dying from drowning isnt the only serious outcome that can occur. Nonfatal drowning can also result in brain damage and long-term disability.
Children less than 4 years old are most likely to die in drowning incidents, usually in bathtubs or after falling into water. Older children are more likely to drown while swimming, according to research cited in the study, with the risk rising in warmer regions of the South and West that have longer swimming seasons.
Lets review a few water safety tips, provided by kidshealth.org, and USA Today News that may help your little one from becoming one of the heart-breaking statistics listed above.
Supervision: The number one rule for water safety and children is that an adult, preferably one who knows CPR, is overseeing any child or group of children in water - whether the water is in a bathtub, a wading pool, an ornamental fish pond, a swimming pool, a spa, the beach, or a lake. If you dont know how to swim, learn. A parent or guardian who can actually enter the water and retrieve a child is able to respond faster, when a child is in trouble, than someone who has t
Time and time again headlines declare that vegetables are absolutely necessary to a healthy lifestyle. As parents, we get it. But what if your little one doesn't like broccoli, green beans, squash, cucumbers, carrots, beets -ok, I'll pass on that one too- corn, cauliflower, spinach or tomatoes? What if every time you attempt to smuggle a vegetable into your child's meal world war three breaks out?
Well...there may be hope. Try a little dip (and tenderness). According to a small but optimistic study, kids that don't normally like veggies messing up their perfectly good meal, will reevaluate that outlook and give vegetables a taste if they are presented with a bit of flavored dip.
The fact that the dip used during the study was low in fat, calories and sodium didn't seem to matter.
The study was conducted at the Center for Childhood Obesity Research at Pennsylvania State University.
Thirty-four preschoolers were asked to do a taste test of vegetables with and without the low-fat dip.
Not surprisingly, the kids liked the veggies better when they were served with dip. When the dip was flavored, kids liked the vegetables even more compared to plain dip or no dip at all.
What I find amazing is that thirty one percent of the little tykes liked the vegetables as is nothing added. When the researchers added the dip though, a whopping sixty-four percent were thumbs up on the vegetables. There were of course, those children who wouldn't budge even while others were smiling, dipping and exclaiming how tasty cauliflower can actually be. Six percent said no thanks to the dip and the vegetables while eighteen percent said absolutely no to the vegetables with no dip.
To see just how far kids were willing to go with the veggie and dip combo researchers did another study. This time they offered 27 preschoolers celery or squash both notorious for being leaders in a preschooler's yuck category. The kids basically picked at the
Many obese men and women are turning to surgery to help them lose the extra weight. But for women who are planning a pregnancy, is it a good idea?
A new study suggests that for obese women who choose weight-loss surgery to bring their weight under control, having the procedure may also benefit their future children.
A Canadian study found that children born after their mother had lost considerable weight from gastric bypass surgery were slimmer than their pre-surgery siblings and had fewer risk factors for diabetes or heart disease later in life.
The findings showed that numerous genes linked to obesity-related health problems worked differently in the younger siblings than in their older brothers and sisters.
The researchers looked at the genes of 50 children who were born to 20 mothers before or after they had gastric bypass surgery. The children were on average about 15 years old.
The moms were between the ages of 35 to 51 and were all classified as obese before they had the procedures. They all lost almost 100 pounds after the surgery.
The type of gastric bypass surgery performed on the mothers who participated in the study is called a biliopancreatic diversion with duodenal switch procedure. It is not used as often as the more common Roux-en-Y gastric bypass procedure. In the biliopancreatic diversion with duodenal switch procedure, a larger part of the stomach is left intact while bypassing most of the intestine.
In the children born after their mothers surgery and weight loss, researchers found 5,698 genes were expressed differently than their older siblings. What that means is that the mothers didnt pass on different genes to their children, but how those genes operated in the childrens bodies were different in the pre and post surgery children. The reason may be that factors inside the womb seem to affect the dimmer switches that develop on a fetus' genes " chemical changes that make genes sp
If you're planning on adding another child to your family-or thinking about starting a family-you might want to consider getting the whooping cough vaccine before you get pregnant.
Why would you do that? According to a new study from Australia, babies who are born to women that are vaccinated with the whooping cough (also known as Pertussis) vaccine before they become pregnant have a 50% lower risk of developing the disease.
Whooping cough is an infection of the respiratory system. It mainly affects infants younger than 6 months old before they are immunized, and kids 11 to 18 years old whose immunity has started to decrease. Pertussis is characterized by severe coughing spells that may produce a whooping sound when the child breathes in.
It is highly contagious and before the Pertussis vaccine was available it killed 5,000 to 10,000 people in the U.S. each year. Now that there is a vaccine, the annual number of deaths is less than 30. But in recent years, the number of cases has started to rise. By 2004, the number of whooping cough cases spiked past 25,000, the highest level it's been since the 1950s.
The researchers looked at 217 babies ages 4 months and younger who had whooping cough. They compared them with 585 healthy infants born at the same time in the same area.
They discovered that a similar percentage of mothers - in both groups - received the whooping cough vaccine. However, 41 percent of the moms of healthy babies had been vaccinated at least four weeks before their infant became sick. However, of the mothers whose babies had whooping cough, only 27 percent of mothers had been vaccinated at least four weeks earlier.
Also in the healthy baby group, 26 percent of the mothers said they had been vaccinated before their baby was born, while only 14 percent of mothers whose babies had whooping cough said they had been vaccinated before delivery.
In this program, "there was no vaccination durin
Here is another one of the can't believe what I hear at the office! I was on call the other night and it was around bedtime when I walked in the exam room to see 2 little girls (actually they are part of a triplet set but their brother was home). Their dad had brought them in because they had rashes and bug bites. Nothing too serious. They are adorable 2 years old and very well behaved.
So, after examining the rashes and bites and determining that they could be dealt with a bit of cortisone cream, the dad and I were discussing a few more things. Of course the girls got bored, and as you know a bored 2 year old typically doesn't sit still, especially when it is time for bed. So as the girls jumped up and down off the table and picked out more stickers their Dad was getting tired as well. By the way, he is a great father and he and has wife have handled having triplets with such ease. They were meant to have multiples.
Well, before we could finish up the appointment the girls had gotten into the diaper bag, pulled out snacks and were enjoying themselves. As much as he was ready to go, they were not ready to pack up and leave and he was having a hard time getting them to listen.
Here comes the line of the night! He turns to the girls in a moment of what to do next and says,if you don't behave and listen to me, Dr. Sue is going to make you sick! LOL! I have heard a lot of Dr. Sue will give you a shot if you don't behave, but I have never heard this one. While I don't believe in threatening kids with shots at the doctors, this was a new one.
After I stopped laughing I told the girls that this was not true, doctors would and could not make them sick, but they did need to listen to their dad!!
I know that we all say things out of desperation, but please don't use the lines the doctor will give you a sh


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God had the plan for the sacrifice of his son, but if man had not sinned it would have not been carried out. He knew the mind of men and provided for every possibility. It was still man's choice that drove the consequence of each covenant, whether for good or for evil.
Quote from: Theo Book on March 15, 2010, 03:34:31 PMGod had the plan for the sacrifice of his son, but if man had not sinned it would have not been carried out. He knew the mind of men and provided for every possibility. It was still man's choice that drove the consequence of each covenant, whether for good or for evil.If that is what you think then you rate the knowledge of God lower than I do.There are no IFs for God. He knew Adam and Eve who sin before they were created. He knows every choice mankind will make from before creation. He even knows I would type this post before I was born.But you make it sound as if Father didn't really know for sure men would sin and because of that He added a backup plan called "Jesus". Man sinning was no more that a good guess. By your defenition God is very smart but not all knowing.?
And THAT is where you are very wrong.
Quote from: Theo Book on March 15, 2010, 07:42:01 PMAnd THAT is where you are very wrong.So your answer is that God wasn't able to predict His creation would become corrupted?And while God said His cousel would stand a short chat with a man of His creation and He changes His mind?As for the verses maybe it's also how they are understood.For example when I read "neither came it into my mind" I don't read it as I forgot about that or something similar.God said He didn't command it AND He didn't even concider (came to mind) to command it.Or it's simply against His personality to "burn their sons".KJVIsa 46:10 10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:KJVMal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.I'm not claiming to have all the answers. Far from it. But I know one thing. Scriptures do not contradict.So when presented a verse that doesn't fit with your overall understanding of the Bible you can't just 'undo' it by quoting other verses. ALL verses should align. So that's why I like to start with the simple a clear understandings.God knows everything so never is/was/will be taken by suprise by anything/anyone.
Anyway, God loves us despite our ignorance. He just doesn't want us to grow proud in it.
But I do think "repent" is the right word because it is the same language used for men who change and turn form one thing to another.
that was good WW ,we are only as Bright as the Light God gives us to shine in a dark and empty world .. your a 60 watter atleast
forgiveness is of the very divine nature of God , we are to learn what good and evil is
Quote from: rosered on March 15, 2010, 11:01:14 PMthat was good WW ,we are only as Bright as the Light God gives us to shine in a dark and empty world .. your a 60 watter atleast Only 60? That dim? Maybe you can shine on me a for a while Mrs Floodlight I'm getting bored in utter darkness
Quote from: WhiteWings on March 15, 2010, 11:09:30 PMQuote from: rosered on March 15, 2010, 11:01:14 PMthat was good WW ,we are only as Bright as the Light God gives us to shine in a dark and empty world .. your a 60 watter atleast Only 60? That dim? Maybe you can shine on me a for a while Mrs Floodlight I'm getting bored in utter darkness Bro I was complimenting you ,
er im a 4 giga watter at least !
hey I got them 4 watts sconces in my bedroom they work , beats tripping
hey I got them 4 watts sconces in my bedroom they work , beats trippingThat's my advantage. I've fallen so deep I can't even trip anymore. For now I'm enjoying the quiet and waiting for a strong hand to pull me out
Hi Theo,Quote from: Theo Book on March 15, 2010, 09:19:10 PMBut I do think "repent" is the right word because it is the same language used for men who change and turn form one thing to another.I can't say for sure from your words so I just ask: Is that repenting an act of man according to your understanding?
But when I read verses like:KJVJoh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.RepentAction of Father. Not of man.=> Drag seems to be a more correct translation for draw. To me that means Father uses great force we can't resist. He isn't asking, begging, hoping, concidering or suggesting. He's using His powers. And I personally think even the worst sinner is vastly overpowered then. Ask Paul/Saul
Romans 11:32 For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.Romans 8:20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.(Theo) Right... in HOPE that all men will avail themselves of the blood of Christ. some will, some will not, but the hope is that all will.We are brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God when we are bapttized into Christ in order to be in the likeness of his resurrection.(Legoman) Oh dear. So God, who is all-knowing, all-powerful, created the whole universe, even declared the end from the beginning, is simply "hoping" that things will work out? He is hoping the creation will liberate itself? God is in control whether you like it or not Theo. Trust Him!
Hi Theo, Sorry, I really did not think I was changing the thrust of what you were saying. I may have been in a bit of a sarcastic mood last night, so I apologize if I offended you - but I'm not sure what you are saying here then. Who is it who you think is hoping in the above verse?
Surely you see that Romans 8:20 says it is God who subjected the creation (which includes all humans) to frustration, correct? This was done without asking for our permission. And it is God who will liberate the creation (which again includes all humans) from its bondage to decay (sin and death)? Right? Again God doesn't need to ask our permission. This is the glorious hope. This is man's hope - specifically it is Paul saying "in hope". This is where our faith in God comes in, that we have faith and hope that God will actually do what He says: liberate the creation! It is teaching us faith.
That is the good news and I have faith and hope that He will do it! God says He will do it and I believe He can. God is the one who wants to save all mankind, and God is the one who says He will reconcile and restore all things. He can do it.
In any case, as others have alluded to, maybe take a step back for a second. The arguments you raise here are really nothing new, so you may be fooling yourself if you think this is something the UR believer has not already considered for themself. You might want to read through here to see how your questions have already been answered in more ways than one:http://tentmaker.org/ScholarsCorner.htmlComing to tentmaker to tear down the doctrine of UR is surely an exercise in frustration... Peace out...
THAT is the question I have not seen an answer to as of yet. I see where God has instructed us to get into Christ to receive the blessings inherent with being in Christ, I do not see where all men will get into Christ. Are you saying many will be saved who never were "in Christ?"
Hi Theo. I've enjoyed much of your last few posts. I have some info I'd like to share as a member, not a mod. I'm really not interested in debating, and (although some disagree with the fine distinction I make) debating is not encouraged on TM - discussion is - which is what I've seen you doing lately. If someone wants to discuss and really understand each others' thoughts and understandings, versus trying to "tear the other's POV down", then sometimes I'm in. But I just really believe I can't make anyone see things my way, and hopefully vice versa - that it's the Spirit of God that really teaches and leads us. I wrote this before I saw the last interchange with lego, so I'll just let it stand as is; Hi Theo. You and Paul are having a good discussion, kudos. I don't want to interfere, but your last post(s) have prompted me to think about some things I'd like to share with you. I will ONLY share with you what I believe and understand from the scriptures and from what God has revealed to me both in my spirit and in the scriptures.Briefly, and based on many scriptures which I won't take the time to go find :)I will present a large outline/framework, within which there are MANY intricacies I admittedly have yet to understand and/or be reconciled for me.I understand that God had Jesus prepared as the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. It wasn't Plan B because Plan A failed.That He concluded all to disobedience, so that He would have mercy on all.That there was an ultimate price to pay for all mankind's salvation, and Jesus paid it on the cross and when He walked out of that empty tomb.That He calls and chooses, gives faith to believe on Him as Savior, each in his own order - some now, the rest later. That one must experience the spiritual birth from above, the new birth/born again to see the kingdom. Again, some now, the ecclesia/called out ones, the rest later - as the gates of the city are open day and night and the kings bring their treasures into it. ("Sirs what must I do to be saved?) That we "call on the name of the Lord", "believe on the Lord Jesus" as and when He gives each the faith to do so.That though God ultimately directs our steps, and He works ALL things according to the counsel of His will, that there are consequences to our disobedience both in this life and in the next age. In this life, as we reap what we sow. In the next age, as we stand before God and all our deeds (and legal standing with Him) are reviewed, judged, and then undergo corrective discipline. I believe everyone that has anything in them that's not of God will be "tormented" (banismo) for an aion [time period, probably different lengths for different people/situations], sorrow, repentance, and renewal will then occur. I believe Ephesians 1:10 talks of everything being gathered together in Christ, things both above and on the earth. But anything not of God (built on sand, or is wood, hay, stubble) will be spiritually burned, "so that the spirit may be saved in the Day of the Lord". Our God is a consuming Fire, and it will be painful to stand before Him unprepared. There will be a select company not hurt of the second death, but I personally figure I still have things in me that will need to destroyed in the Lake of Fire. I am personally still in process of clarifying/understanding especially this part, but I believe that will still be a different process for anyone saved by the blood of Jesus and sealed by the Spirit, than a total unbeliever. Also (few stripes/many stripes) that someone who never heard/had little to no light (or a baby, for instance) will have a very quick to immediate realization and conversion, as opposed to say Hitler, who may have nothing left of him except the spirit that came from God. Again, these are what I understand AT THIS POINT. God is still teaching me. Although He has given me the new birth by His Spirit and through His blood, I just know I'm not perfect and don't expect to be until He creates that in me. I spent 35 years in ET Christianity, pastor's son, etc., but thanks be to God He opened my eyes at least a little bit, enough to see He has a much bigger plan than forever torturing 95% of His creation, while able to barely snatch a mere 5% from the clutches of satan.What a mighty God we serve.
THAT is the question I have not seen an answer to as of yet. I see where God has instructed us to get into Christ to receive the blessings inherent with being in Christ, I do not see where all men will get into Christ. Are you saying many will be saved who never were "in Christ?"(CHB)Hi Theo Book, Are you speaking of a literal baptism by water or a spiritual baptism?
What about all the people who lived before Christ was even born? Can any of them be in Christ? Wondering how you saw this?
You seem to say God isn't in control of all things, that we have a say in our own lives and salvation. If we have this power, where did we get it? If you say, "God gave it to us", then isn't God still in control if he gave it to us?
If you say we have to choose salvation, then aren't we really saving ourselves? If God put it all in our hands why the need for Jesus to die?
I hope you read all of the articles and post on this site there are answers to every question you have asked.CHB
Thanks, and again, I will only present what I understand, because other even UR believers see some of this differently.MY thoughts - I believe at least MUCH of Jesus' earthly ministry was PRIMARILY to the Jews. That the scriptures have multiple layers, but that many of the things He said to the crowds were PRIMARILY to them, and further, that at least MUCH of it had to do with the coming judgments - during which time those who thought they were in right standing with God and were "in control" of the religious system, were about to be judged, removed, and replaced by the Gentiles - for a season, "until the time of the Gentiles are fulfilled - and then all Israel will be saved". I do not believe everything in history was totally fulfilled at 70 AD when the temple was destroyed, temple sacrifice was ended, and the old and the new violently converged. Yet I do believe extremely MAJOR things occurred then that we make a mistake when we ignore, and when we take scriptures out of their primary context and attempt to force them where they may not belong. **Disclaimer - I believe this is a very delicate matter, and we can mess it up one way or the other. Again, God's still teaching. [A couple of notes of interest; Jesus told the disciples that it had been given to them to know the secrets of the kingdom, to the others around them, it had not - lest they should see and believe. It was not (most of) their time in God's process/overall Plan. Also, J.Preston Eby's study of Lazarus is well recommended.]Sooooo, yes, there were warnings, and I agree, they're legitimate. I personally reject a New Age "everybody's already saved, nothing else left to do, nothing else is going to happen, all roads lead to God so don't worry about it" mentality - because the Holy Spirit within me shows me and tells me in the scriptures that that is not the case. I do believe though it takes discernment and rightly dividing the Word of Truth to understand and apply correctly to what these warnings referred and related. I'm still thinking about this myself, but it does seem to me that at least some of Jesus' warnings also referred to an 'end times/end of the world' eschatology - however, the end of what times and what "world"? Also, I see any other warnings in the NT having to do with things like again, 1) reaping and sowing in this lifetime, 2) loss of specific rewards and proximity to the throne and level of service in the Kingdom [Paul was certainly saved by the blood and sealed by the Spirit, yet He still talked of running and working - but NOT for salvation], and 3) absolutely punishment and correction, but temporal and with a purpose of "gathering all things together in Christ" [aion =limited time period with a beginning and end, torment = testing as with a touchstone, and in testing for the purity of gold, hell = mistranslated from gehenna (garbage dump where the bodies of those Jewish religious leaders were actually thrown in disgrace, as they were cast into outer darkness - sheol = the grave, etc.... so I don't deny punishment/discipline, or that it's not a fearful thing to fall in the hands of a living God, etc. - but still, that He doesn't burn His creation with LITERAL fire forever, that He has a better and bigger plan that hinges on Jesus, His Lamb slain from the foundation of the world...Don't want to ramble too much, and before long it might start to run together, so I'll stop right here and hope it mostly makes sense .


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The "Smartphone Theft Deterrent Act", a bill that would require OEMs to build 'kill switch' technology into tablets and smartphones, seems like an over-reach to me.
Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), a co-sponsor of the bill, said in a statement that the legislation would "help put consumers in control of their cell phone data" through a kill switch', but it seems like the exact opposite is true.
There are far too few specifics in this bill, namely how the technology would be implemented and who ultimately would have control over the kill switch. In this case, the government is asking to have technology included in mobile devices that could bhe hacked or abused in a number of ways. And yes, without sounding too paranoid, there's also the matter of allowing the government yet one more vulnerabilty in our already compromised private communication channels. If they're willing to snoop on our every email and text (re: The Snowden Files), who's to say they're above shutting down the mobile comminucations of a group demonstrators.
The carriers have said they're already working on solutions to remotely wipe and kill a lost or stolen cell phone for their customers, but I think they're right that this is not something that should be mandated by legislation.
Indeed, cell phone theft and the assaults that often occur as part of these crimes are deplorable and need to be stopped. However, the possible unintended consequences in requiring all phones sold in the United States to include kill switch type technology, are many.
Perhaps the simplest reason for refraining from this type of legislation are the many solutions already available on the market that do essentially the same thing. Samsung and Apple have led the way in remote wipe features in their phones, and the wireless carriers are wide awake to the bad press associated with the epidemic of cell phone theft.
The ability to actually "brick" a phone should be a voluntary, opt-in technology. It should be entirely managed and controlled by the owner the phone.
One Wireless Week reader, Timothy Regan, commented on a story about the kill switch legislation, suggesting that there must be a better way [1].
"All carriers have DBs [databases] of active subscribers, allowing users to wipe data remotely (marking as Stolen/Clean) is a first step, and then preventing carriers from accepting "wiped" devices for new subscriptions and inquiring about wiped devices marked as stolen," Regan wrote. "If the cell carriers would deal with this issue in a sensible manner we would not need Senators proposing over-reaching legislation than offers new dangers."
I agree. Computers are also stolen on a regular basis, as are cars, but no one has proposed that automakers and PC manufacturers be required to include 'kill switch' technology in their products. If anything, lawmakers need to step back and let the technology experts think this one through and come up with more solutions that make sense and are perhaps more manageable and less intrusive than imposing legislation.


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Could be anything...Originally Posted by rivethead
I am not the individual in question nor am I her doctor. I do not hold her medical files in my possession nor do you.
Everyone is born differently, some are more different than others. I am simplifying what could be anything from Gender Identity Disorder to being a hermaphrodite. Why? Because I do not know why or how Fallon Fox has made their decisions so I will not predetermine or assume to know what caused her life to take the path it did.
You say that Jones is fake. Surely, you must then think GSP is fake.
A point I was trying to also make was that when these particular athletes address the media they are presenting an image of who they want to be --- how they want to be themselves to be perceived. This is something we are all guilty of in business. People wear masks sometimes, everyone has. So basically what you are doing is a bit of hypocrisy because everyone does what you accuse Jones of doing, even yourself.
Go ahead and scream that Jones is a horrible human being, but this is not the case in this particular situation. Jones is a human being like we all are, not a "non-person" as you labelled him.
The man was asked a question then proceeded to give an opinion. By all means, go berserk on him for his past indiscretions but, in my opinion, that makes you look silly because it has nothing to do with the situation at all.
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Sniggles: Facts we have Fallon was born/titled a man he chose to alter his body to a female like attributes. How Fallons brain is wired doesn't change the fact that 20 years or so was a man. Fallon has the legal right to be what ever sex he/she wants, but I don't see where that gives her the right to fight females[ Note the I]
Now on Jones: History shows were he spoke on how to act than got busted for just that.
Than add his poor speaking magnify his faults.
Yes we all need to remember someone is asking a question to them all info not always provided to us. Which can change how something appears
I could care less what question he was asked.
He simply could have said, "Matt is entitled to his opinion but he should be more sensitive to others' feelings when sharing them in public. I personally do not agree with what he said and he has obviously been reprimanded for it and I hope he learned a little on the way."
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The celebration, open to the community, will start at 8:30 a.m. in Eidson Gym and will feature a special multi-media tribute, remarks from current and past notables, a birthday card, treats and more. Special guests include S.C. State Representative Chris Murphy, Summerville Mayor Bill Collins, Former Trustee Rudd Smith, current trustee David Price, and former head of school Bill Doc McIntosh, as well as the entire student body and faculty.
In 1952, the Allan Family founded Pinewood School, beginning with 52 students in grades 1-8 and expanded to include a preschool, grades 9 and 10, a boarding department, and a summer school located in New York. A major milestone in the schools history came in the early 1980s, when Pinewood joined with Summerville Academy. Today, the school is a bustling 43-acre campus with 750 students enrolled in Pre-Kindergarten through 12th grade
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Just as important, the school fosters and nurtures the idea of community service, Mandell said.
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Robert P. Imbelli January 19, 2013 - 8:31am
I recently met a young man from an Evangelical Christian background who is in an RCIA program, preparing to be received into the Catholic Church. I asked him what attracted him to Catholicism and his response was twofold. First, he found that Catholicism set his relationship to Jesus in the deeper and fuller foundation of Trinitarian theology. Second, he found great sustenance in the sacramental life of the Church, especially, of course, the Eucharist.I was reminded of my conversation with him when I read a review (subscribers only) in the current "Commonweal." The author of the review, Nathaniel Peters, is a doctoral student in theology at Boston College. The book under review is a sympathetic study by a psychologist of the evangelical movement known as the Vineyard churches. This part of the review I thought especially worthy of note. Peters comments:
For Christians who grew up thinking that God was distant and irrelevant to their lives, a Vineyard church may offer a kind of intimacy theyve never experienced. For some Catholics who feel burdened by church doctrines or bored by stale liturgies, this may seem an attractive option. But Vineyard churches also show the danger of do-it-yourself religion, of private religious experience undisciplined by a largerand deepertheological tradition. You cant simply name it and claim it if you take your cues from St. Francis. Yes, both Ignatius of Loyola and the Vineyard stress an affective spirituality that engages the imagination, and both value intimacy with God and a sense of his presence in the little things of life. But Ignatius also believed firmly in sacraments whose efficacy did not depend on emotional response. Faith was not reducible to feeling, and the way to intimacy with God was not by diminishing the role of doctrine, but by rediscovering its source. For Ignatius, it was a mistake to try to tether God to ones own desires; discipleship required radical availability to Gods will.
"Rediscovering its source" -- or, as I've suggested before: a radical re-Sourcement. In this, we can all continue to learn from Dorothy Day (with many thanks to Patrick Jordan for his splendid remembrance). Jordan writes:
For her faith, she had given up friends and what she called a life of natural happiness with the man she loved, Forster Batterham, the father of her daughter. He had refused to marry Dorothy and derided her conversion to Catholicism. Still, years later Dorothy was able to say, It is joy that brought me to the faith, joy at the birth of my child thirty-five years ago; and that joy is constantly renewed as I receive Our Lord at Mass. As a result of her wrenching personal sacrifice, she considered the loss of faith the greatest of disastersthe greatest unhappiness. She found daily Mass to be an antidote to apostasy, calling it the most important work of the day. If I can just remember to do that wellas well as I am ableeverything else will take care of itself, she said.
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Father Imbelli:The words "began to believe" at the end of yesterday's Gospel struck me very strongly. They weren't taken up in the homily. Your thread opens with the young man who is preparing to enter the Catholic Church. I thought of him and the journey we are all embarked on, whether at twenty or seventy. It seems to me to be a lifelong process of "beginning to believe." But only THEN, "face to face."
"I think it is a very weak link to base affirmations about sex on grammatical gender. In many instances in many languages there is no correlation."JAK --True, there is no necessary correlation between real gender and grammatical gender, but at times the correlation does happen to be descriptive and helps to convey a meaning. Do you really think that the fact that so many languages have gender based declentions has no relationship at all to reality? Are there any languages in which, for instance, "woman" or "mother" is a masculine noun? I doubt it. Such primitive concepts/words tend to retain the fundamental facts/connotations that they were intended to describe.I don't say that "sophia" being feminine grammatically *proves* that the Holy Spirit is the feminine Person. But it certainly suggests that when the Greeks used the term "sophia" they were thinking of a feminine quality. And we must add to that the fact that sophia was identified with Athena, who was the goddess of wisdom and the chief god of Athens itself. Athens even shares its name with Athena, and we know the value those citizens placed on knowledge and the pursuit of truth. Given the word's meaning and grammatical gender plus the association with Athena, I think an ancient Greek would be very much inclined to think of wisdom as a feminine quality, at least when thinking about gods.So it seems reasonable to me to think that the Greek word "sophia" has retained Greek connotations in the Gospels in the very same way that the Greek word "logos" has retained Greek connotations when it is applied to the Second Person. Surely the Greek meaning of the word "logos" strongly influenced the theological understanding of the Second Person. I don't doubt that the Holy Spirit was at work when She had those who wrote the Gospels used the word "wisdom/sophia" to describe Herself. All I am saying is there is a strong current of identifying wisdom with the female in Greek thought and language, and it would be rash to ignore this undercurrent in reading and interpreting the Greek of the Gospels.
Anne --In Scholastic thinking gender is not a purely physical quality or set of qualities. It includes strong spiritual inclinations to specific virtues. For instance, femininity includes a strong inclination to gentleness. Whether or not the Scholastics were right about which quality mainly belonged to which gender is another question. However, as to gentleness, it does seem that contemporary psychologists have found that on average, anyway, males are more aggressive than females.I for one think it will be many moons before the scientists of either gender can be very objective in such studies. There's too much cultural baggage still operating.
JAK --I read most of the Tavard article. I find it particularly unconvincing because he jumps to conclusions on the basis of half-truths, and he himself says that his whole position hangs on the theory of proper proportionality -- but he totally misunderstands what that that theory is about. At least the way he sees is it not the way I learned it in school and the way have found it confirmed in my reading. A better hypothesis for explaining his conclusions is that the is after all a garden variety sexist in spite of his talk of Aquinas and Nietzsche and Wittgenstein (whom he also doesn't know too well).
Ann: What do you make of the fact that pneuma (spirit) in Greek is neuter in gender? Why would this not be as important as that sophia is feminine? And by the way, in the New Testament, associations with sophia are far closer and more frequent for Christ the logos than for the Spirit. For examples of several other languages and how they relate or don't relate grammatical gender and sexual differentiation, cf. Tavard's article.In German the word for "girl" is neuter. In Latin the word for "sailor" is feminine. Etc., etc.From Wikipedia:
In a few languages, the gender assignation of nouns is solely determined by their meaning or attributes, like biological sex, humanness, animacy. However, in most languages, this semantic division is only partially valid, and many nouns may belong to a gender category that contrasts with their meaning (e.g. the word "manliness" could be of feminine gender). In this case, the gender assignation can also be influenced by the morphology or phonology of the noun, or in some cases, can be completely arbitrary.
For manliness, that is, characteristics of men, see: Spanish (hombra, virilidad, masculinidad), German (Mnnlichkeit, Virilitt), Latin (virtus).
I would point out that Elizabeth Johnson discusses the issue of the feminine and the Spirit in the 3rd chapter of She Who Is, and it is a nuanced overview; she also points out where Congars and Boff discuss the femininity of the Spirit.She also makes the simple but necessary point that the trinity often veers toward a binary in Christian theology, with the Spirit just being too tough for people to keep on a level with the Son and Father.I would like to note that discussion of Greek ideas of wisdom and the feminine seems like a less fruitful path than that provided for the more explicit connection made in the Hebrew Bible, where the spirit is amply described as feminine, and where Wisdom is a woman.I would also note that, from a Pauline perspective, at least, spirit seems more a "stuff" than a "person," so the gender isn't the only lens available.
I think the idea that love should last forever and that God is love is part of why people don't like the idea that love is a feeling .... it's a distrust of human nature (the fear that a feeling can't be sustained) and a belief that God is impassible (and doesn't feel love as a emotion). But I do think love is a feeling, that people can sustain it for a lifetime and beyond, and that God loves us emotionally. You can re-define love as a duty or a choice to try to make it more do-able, but I think that's cheating :)
Abe writes apropos Elizabeth Johnson:"She also makes the simple but necessary point that the trinity often veers toward a binary in Christian theology, with the Spirit just being too tough for people to keep on a level with the Son and Father."I think a considerable part of the challenge is that we tend to think of the "persons" or "hypostases" of the Trinity in a univocal way. Both Rahner and von Balthasar suggest that "person" is precisely what is different in the Trinity. Thus the Spirit is not "person" in the same way that Father and Son are. The Spirit is "person" of "persons." For all the vaunted "superiority" of Orthodoxy in matters pneumatological, I think a robust theology of the Holy Spirit is very much a desideratum in both West and East. The "symbol" has still to give rise to systematic thought.
In French the gender of words is defined by three factors: meaning, spelling, and hearing.Of the 965 words ending in "-it ", only one (karit) is masculine and all others are feminine, for example "virilit" and "masculinit". In that case gender has nothing to do with meaning and everything to do with spelling. (http://french.chass.utoronto.ca/fre180/Genre.html )The Holy Spirit is masculine in French (LE Saint Esprit), but there is no neutral. Since there does not seem to be any reason for it to be masculine - the concrete images that first come to mind for it, dove, breeze, fire, are genderless -, I would naturally make it an "it" in English; but no one does that and I got rebuked for it once, so now I try to remember to say "she". I have a similar problem for Church (UNE glise). I don't have a sense that it has to be feminine - the definition, people of God, is genderless, and the images for it, body of Christ, flock, building of God, holy temple, our mother, bride of Christ, are quite mixed - so I would naturally make it an "it" in English; but no one does that and I got rebuked for it once, so now I try to remember to say "she".
oops. I got rebuked once for saying "it" instead of "she", but can't remember if it was for the Holy Spirit or for the Church!...
Ivan Illich distinguished between the Church as "It" (Bad) and the Church as "She" (Good).
"Ann: What do you make of the fact that pneuma (spirit) in Greek is neuter in gender?"JAK --In this context I'll just point out that "pneuma" is neither is female nor male, so that makes it irrelevant for this discussion.As for sophia being associated with Christ, it seems to me that all the Persons, sharing the Godhead, must be themselves be like as well as different from each other in some way. And that, to me is the great problem of the Trinty: how are the Persons both alike and different? But surely since Scripture speaks of Father and son, it means that there are both likenesses and differences between at least those two, which suggests that there are likenesses and differences amongst all of them, and we might find them if we went looking for them with open minds.I just find it extraordinary that, given the church';s later teaching of the equality of male and female, the theologians don't look for the ways the female aspects of God are revealed in Scripture. The resistance to looking for such likeness is, I don't doubt, part of the ancient prejudice against women, prejudice operating in the culture of Jesus' day too, and, perhaps in the Evangelists and Paul to some extent.Yes, the first part of Tavard's article is quite interesting, but it goes downhill.
Fr K: and you distinguish between the Church as "They" (Bad) and the Church as "We" (Good)! Right?
JAK ==As to the Wikipedia snip, it is no doubt true that very abstract terms like "manliness" are sometimes female. But those are later additions to languages. My point was that of the most primitive, early words in languag, e.g., "woman", "mother", "father", "man", you rarely if ever find them classified as the opposite sex in grammatical structures. Note: even to speak of, say, the 16 grammatical "genders" in an African language is to switch the meaning of "gender" entirely. In reality there are only two gender poles -- male and female with combinations of both and differences of degree -- there isn't male, female, some gender entirely different from those two, and some gender entirely different from those three genders, and . . . . (That's another thing I have against Tavard -- he doesn't seem to see that.)
Ann: Talk about your apodictic statements: "In reality there are only two gender poles male and female with combinations of both and differences of degree there isnt male, female, some gender entirely different from those two." In fact, in Latin and Greek, to name only two of many, there are three genders--you've left out neuter. You appear above to be committing the classic error of petitio principii, taking it for granted that there must be some close link between grammatical gender and sexual differentiation. If you are going to make so much depend on Sophia's being feminine, why do you dismiss the fact that Pneuma is neuter? Why doesn't it count for as much, if the argument is from grammatical gender?And, not so by the way, lots of theologians have looked for and found feminine images of God in the Bible. I guess you're just not familiar with the literature.
"Ann: What do you make of the fact that pneuma (spirit) in Greek is neuter in gender?"JAK --In this context I'll just point out that "pneuma" is neither is female nor male, so that makes it irrelevant for this discussion.As for sophia being associated with Christ, it seems to me that all the Persons, sharing the Godhead, must be themselves be like as well as different from each other in some way. And that, to me is the great problem of the Trinty: how are the Persons both alike and different? But surely since Scripture speaks of Father and son, it means that there are both likenesses and differences between at least those two, which suggests that there are likenesses and differences amongst all of them, and we might find them if we went looking for them with open minds.I just find it extraordinary that, given the church';s later teaching of the equality of male and female, the theologians don't look for the ways the female aspects of God are revealed in Scripture. The resistance to looking for such likeness is, I don't doubt, part of the ancient prejudice against women, prejudice operating in the culture of Jesus' day too, and, perhaps in the Evangelists and Paul to some extent.Yes, the first part of Tavard's article is quite interesting, but it goes downhill.Now: what do you make of Gen. 26-27"2y Then God said, Let us make humankind[c] in our image, according to our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the wild animals of the earth,[d] and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.27 So God created humankind[e] in his image, in the image of God he created them;[f] male and female he created them"How com "we", God, made humankind *like* God, i.e. "male and female"? (I'm astonished at this. I never noticed it before myself.)"
JAK --There are as many as 16 "genders" in one of the African languages, but they most have nothing to do with sexual differences. So to speak of "grammatical genders" in linguistics is to use the word equivocally from its use in everyday English classrooms.
I love it when Father K gets catty. Genuinely, I do.
JAK --There are as many as 16 "genders" in one of the African languages (Bantu if I'm not mistaken), but they most have nothing to do with sexual differences. So to speak of "grammatical genders" in linguistics is to use the word equivocally from its use in everyday English classrooms.As to sophia, I am actually NOT arguing simply from grammatical gender: I am arguing from the nature of primitive language as expressing ontological facts, not grammatical ones. As I said, it is highly likely that the grammatical gender of mother and father reflect actual, ontological differences, not contingent classifications based on something other than sexual differences.True, I'm not acquainted with most of the literature. One reason is because so much of what I've tried to read *on both sides of the sexism-in-Catholic-theology issue* is that both, the theologians and the Catholic feminists tend to be so bad a philosophy. Or should I say their prejudices are such that they don't write much worth reading. Take Mary Daly whom Tavard refers to. I did read some of her years ago. I think she was an ideologue, saw what she hoped to see. And others I've tried were not much different. But the sexism is just as strong or stronger on the other side. In fact, the subject of feminism was never a big revelation to me. My mother and my aunt attended a college (as did I) where feminism was new in the early 20th century, and it was very much emphasized there. In fact, the college (Newcomb) was founded in part to teach women how to have professions which would make them self-supporting.. So the feminism of the '60s to me was sort of been there, done that. As I said to Crystal, I think it will be a long time before both sides can be objective about the subject.Sorry to be going on in such length, folks, but I am a feminist of a rather old fashioned sort, and some challenges shouldn't go unanswered.
" Im not sure how the Eucharist can give a person experience of Jesus in the same way interactive prayer does."Crystal,All Jesus is is in the Eucharist. The Eucharist is the celebration of the life, death, crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus. The Eucharist is the quintessential of our faith; the life of being a Christian which the imitation, inasmuch as we can, of the life of Jesus. As far as the Trinity is concerned the literature is not just mildly confused but seriously confused so that the most fair thing to do would be to concentrate on the Eucharist. There were meanderings before Augustine but Augustine just got out of control with his speculation. Which the western world followed. Most likely since Augustine wrote so much. The essence of Christianity is the life, crucifixion, and resurrection. This is why the Sunday celebration is so meaningful. It is where we meet as church and where we live in the life of the Spirit.
Bill, I question how one can concentrate on the eucharist, which is the chief means by which people participate in Christ, while ignoring christological and trinitarian problems, except by willfully embracing the pure acceptance of received doctrine. It's true enough that the theological argumentation concerning these topics is confusing--perhaps hopelessly so--but unless you approach everything through mystification, the problem of how the eucharist actually functions can't really be separated from the problem of how the human relates to the divine in Christ, and how Christ relates to the Trinity. Like I said, the literature covering the topic is a slaughterhouse, but I'm not sure what one is supposed to do should they want to go beyond accepting that "the eucharist is X" and ask, "HOW is the eucharist X?" As convoluted and prone to abuse as such theological inquiries can be, I can also see how there's also room in them for an enriched understanding of the sacrament.
Bill and Abe,The idea of Jesus in a wafer seems reductive to me. I understand that the Eucharist symbolizes Jesus' life, death, resurrection, but it seems to leave out the living Jesus himself ... even given transubstantiation, there's no real-time interaction, it's instead a ritual in which he's there physically but not intentionally. Sorry - don't mean to be disrespectful. I guess that's one part of RCIA that I never really understood.
We do not have to elaborate. We go on faith. The focus is on how Jesus reconciles us with the Father/Mother. This is why Jesus said to become infants. We relive these events in each Eucharist and we recommit ourselves our great and forgiving God. To deviate into how Jesus is present and how is to miss it. This is a celebration of OUR redemption. God forgives and pours out love to us which we return united with each other.
What do you folks on this thread mean by "heart"? (I think that there are enormous semantic problems with the word. Sooo many meanings.)
Crystal, I was looking for information on that question recently and my favorite "explanation" (that does not really explain, but is evocative anyway) was in a short homily by St Augustine. http://www.earlychurchtexts.com/public/augustine_sermon_272_eucharist.ht... he imagines the people are thinking is very close to what you wrote. What he answers is very close to what Bill wrote, but perhaps more eloquent (no offense meant, Bill!). As you read it you can hear the passion in his voice, from so many centuries ago. I find it powerfully uplifting. He is so eager that you irresistibly follow his train of thoughts along with him, so straightforward that you are never blocked by an obstacle in understanding. He does not hesitate to write that he does not understand something, when he doesn't, but shows how that does not stop his faith, and one is invited to join him in faith. He is so attractive that he makes me wish I could have known him in person. I bet he turned all the people around him into saints.
I guess that makes me a member of the Augustine fan club!
Crystal writes:"The idea of Jesus in a wafer seems reductive to me. I understand that the Eucharist symbolizes Jesus life, death, resurrection, but it seems to leave out the living Jesus himself even given transubstantiation, theres no real-time interaction, its instead a ritual in which hes there physically but not intentionally."Jesus is present sacramentally in the Eucharist. His is a true sacramental presence. He is present sacramentally as the living One with whom we have intense and intentional relations in real time.He is present in this Eucharist and in every Eucharist throughout the world sacramentally and temporally. And he is present non-sacramentally and eternally to the saints in the Kingdom of the Father.So Abe is quite correct that faith seeks understanding, always limited and partial, of the Mystery we celebrate.And with Claire we can turn once again to Augustine, who at the conclusion of his profound, yet humble meditations on the Trinity, writes:"When the wise man spoke of You in his book, which is now called by the special name of Ecclesiasticus, he said: "We speak much, and yet come short; and in sum of words, He is all." When, therefore, we shall have come to You, these very many things that we speak, and yet come short, will cease; and You, as One, will remain "all in all." And we shall say one thing without end, in praising You the One God, ourselves also made one in You. "O Lord the one God, God the Trinity, whatever I have said in these books that is of Yours, may they acknowledge who are Yours; if anything of my own, may it be pardoned me both by You and by those who are Yours. Amen."P.S. Abe, any reflection on my comment at 1/21 -- 3:56 p.m.?
In the Episcopal BCP the post-eucharistic prayer has always made sense to me:Eternal God, heavenly Father,you have graciously accepted us as living membersof your Son our Savior Jesus Christ,and you have fed us with spiritual foodin the Sacrament of his Body and Blood.Send us now into the world in peace,and grant us strength and courageto love and serve youwith gladness and singleness of heart;through Christ our Lord. Amen.I have always looked at the sacrament like that: As Jesus feeding you with himself in some real way that brings you into the fold, strengthening you, so you can better go about a life of Christian service and charity. I agree with Crystal that in some RCIA classes, there may be so much talk about how other denominations have got the eucharist wrong--either as a commemoration or because they fall short of whole-hearted endorsement of transubstantiation--that they forget to talk about what it's good for.
Jean,it is a lovely prayer -- and formative of habits of the heart.
Thanks, all of you - I'll check out the Augustine link.
Crystal --Intentionality isn't just a matter of knowing, it's sometimes a matter of turning towards a good and being helped in moving towards that good. It seems to me that this latter sort of intentionality is what reception of the Eucharist is largely about. One comes to me moved in a certain direction (a grace) in a way and with more strength (another grace) that one doesn't have without "going to Communion". This isn't a physical thing, it's spiritual but none the less real. And it's personal, since it is obviously tailored to the needs of the individual recipient. At least that is what usually happens for me.Other people, the holy ones, actually seem to be aware of the presence of the Lord within themselves, spirit to Spirit, or heart to Heart if you prefer that terminology. I can't imagine anything more personal.
Somehow this poem seems appropriate here --Little White Churchby Marilyn Nelson Eaton, NH, 1879Us Free Will Baptists walked a thin tightwire,a springing path out over the abyss.We knew how a sudden April desire to dancecan topple you head over heels into the fire.We knew how warmth exuded by a youthsinging at prayer meeting in a nearby seatand inhaled deeply can inebriateyou to the point of renouncing the truth.We lived repent-now-before-it's-too-late.We didn't believe God forgives you, once and for all.We knew how you can just turn around and fall,of your own free will, how easy it is to doubt.But there's no Free Willers left around this placesince the Phelps boy come back from Harvard talking about Grace.
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