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"Imagination is more important than knowledge." Albert Einstein
Having reviewed the posts on these forums about the various pro's and con's of ESO being the inheritor of TES lore and 'DAOC' gameplay, I can appreciate where the pro's are coming from.
I was focussed until recently on the lack of freedom to see all of the gameworld with one character with this setup, and until yesterday thought it the biggest issue...
... but it isn't...
It hit me like a truck lunchtime yesterday.
With three locked out factional areas - surely the devs have taken on the 'content locust' effect with both arms tied behind their backs!
In PvE terms, they are essentially trying to create THREE MMOs in one - and with 100% voiced NPCs too?
Now I am always prepared to give a game company the benefit of the doubt - but it is very difficult to see how the kind of player like me - who really likes to focus on a single main and who values the replayability of the PvE as much as the fun of the PvP - is going to have enough to do...
... is the game simply going to be that VAST?
If it is vast enough for this not to be a concern - is the PvE element going to be varied enough to be engaging medium to long term?
I must admit I find it difficult to accept that the game will be so big (in terms of the number of varied and interesting PvE 'things to do') that it is in-effect the size and scope of Morriwind, Oblivion AND Skyrim combined...
... that said - my hat would be off to them if they pull such a collossal feat off...
... but I wonder if it can be done...
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The biggest problem, maybe, maybe not, perhaps the biggest problem, is that if the whole PVP thing was taken out of the game, there would have been fewer complaints, after all, gladiatorial arenas are a part of the TES lore, so small scale PVP would have been in keeping with the Lore and avoided faction locking players into seperate parts of the map just because they want to play a certain race.
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Joined: 3/22/07
Even if PvE areas are good and large enough despite the faction lock, they would've been better and larger without it.
I think TESO is going to have the same problem TOR has: making one char per faction will be fun, but making alts of the same faction will be boring due to repeated content. And you have to focus on one faction to keep your guild mates, so...
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I have raised this concern in another thread in response to people saying faction lock is great as you get 3 games in 1. I personally don't see it as 3 games in 1 but I do get why they might think that.
And I agree, the problem with it I see is thw whole replayability factor. I tried to explain that being locked into faction is a problem because once you have completed all quests for that faction you really have no option but to repeat content. But if you have an open world without faction locks then you can either do 1 character per region or 3 characters per race but take them to other locations.
i.e. If currently each faction has 50 quests and it takes 50 quests to level then the 2nd character for each faction will have to repeat content. So if you don't want to repeat content you will have to create a character for each faction. But if factions are not locked you just have 150 quests in the world and so you could create 3 characters from the same faction and do the normal 50 in your region, take your second character to the 2nd region and the 3rd to the 3rd.
For me personally, as it seems to stand, My favorite 2 races are Orc and Breton. Both are in the same faction. So I am being forced not only to repeat content (unless there is so much you can level 2 characters from the same faction without repeating content) but, if I want to see the rest of the 60% of the continent then I have to choose a race I don't really like or want to play. That isn't a good thing.
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Yes, TSO will be light on PvE content, just as DAoC was, SWTOR is and more still. Only WoW has managed to provide sufficient volume of content to keep players partially happy, but then they could afford to keep a massive development team going.
Expect TSO's PvE to suffer post launch. You need to be playing this game for the PvP to stay with it long term.
I can think of 3 bigger problems
1 mega server - the lack of community and responsibility it brings
2 "replicating the single player experience in a mmo", I don't like "you are the hero" storyline in mmos, its just stupid, what does this replication mean, does it mean swtor instanced to hell and back shitfest
3 the listen to the "dont take away my freedom" crowd to much. And we end up with a game where everyone can do everything, that Is too easy and feels pointless (e.g. gw2)
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Originally posted by Maelwydd
Warhammer had different areas to level for each race. I don't know that it did or didn't work in the game and I suppose people could debate execution or practicality in a PvP game. It is just an observation, as I haven't considered it enough to have a stance.
Everytime I read one of these post I think to myself "they just don't get it" Here is why.
I have spent 200+ hours in Skyrim, 300+ hours in Oblivion. Skyrim is going to be 1-to-1 scale in this game, meaning the area in the stand-a-lone RPG will be the same size as it is in the MMO. This means if I can spend 200+ hours in 1 or the 3 area's in 1 of my factions starting zones it would tend to suggest I could get 600+ hours into my complete starting zone. Then they have said Cyrodiil will be the size of 2 of the three starting zones. This would leave me to believe there will be over 1200+ hours of content in the zone before I even though PVP as they have stated several times there will be plenty of stuff to do if you don't want to PVP in order to help you faction.
I say all of this because I just don't think any realizes how absolutely massive this game world is going to be. I was listening to an interview of one of the alpha testers and he said they spend over an hour just exploring 1 island on the map for the starting location and that island, when you looked at the map, was about the size of a very small pea.
So to answer the OP, yes it is just that VAST. There will be what you see on the map, plus underground areas, plus inter-dimensional areas, plus PVP, plus an adventure zone we have not even seen yet, and all of this should be about 15x the size of Skyrim the game and them some.
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To be honest, for me each race of TES has its own atractive, so for me there is absolutely no problems in wich faction to side with, and to be honest.. if you cant find a race that likes you from the 3 of each one then its really a problem if you ask me.
Still for what ive seen people seems to preffer a open world with no factions and pvp areas ( something like WvWvW i assume ) that would be nice too, im happy with any of those.
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My major conern(s) in regard to the three way splits are similar to what you touched on. Will the content for each faction be enough (PVE wise). If it is enough, will it be the same fixed path, or will there be numerous ways to progress through the content. I fear that each faction could possibly only have one specific path of leveling. This would make rerolling, for me at least, a boring affair (if on the same faction). These concerns of mine are assumptions based on what has been released.
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Originally posted by Caliburn101
Every new and upcoming MMORPG in the past several years has claimed to fix these problems, but none has. Not even GW2, who claimed that because of level scaling and always changing DE's, max level characters will always have something to do, failed in this regard. The only way to pump out enough developer made content, as SWTOR has shown us, to last even 1 month is to bombard us with mostly "side quests" or chores as I like to call them. Those aren't even worth doing or mentioning, much less worth spending money on. What I liked about TES series is that even the side quests felt like they belonged in that world and they felt like something our character might actually do. So no, I don't think each faction will have 1 entire MMO's worth of content, thus giving us 3 games. I think it'll give us enough content to hit max level, much the same way as WoW does with 1 starting zone per race and offering 2, maybe 3 different level paths. I bet ESO will have only 3 unique leveling paths, 1 for each faction, and it'll take no longer than any other themepark to complete that content and hit max level. I also think that most of the content we complete won't be worthy of our time or believable for a "hero" to do.
Which is why I think if Zenimax isn't going to emmulate TES series features and mechanics, including the way content is done, it isn't even worth wasting the money creating the game. All we'll see 2-4 weeks after release is people talking about how they're bored, with nothing to do, and RvR isn't what they thought it'd be, just like people said the same thing about GW2's RvR after a few weeks of playing it, despite all the fans clamouring for it and hyping that feature up.
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Originally posted by Quaiden
Does your opinion change any if each zone is linear so that you will outlevel certain parts of the world? I could return to plces in Skyrim and still have something to do but from the sounds of their linear progression that might not be the case in TESO.
I guess it depends on just how much content there is and if their vision on the game is "level 50 is where the game starts because you get to PvP" or "level 50 is where the game starts because there is still so much to do in both PvE and PvP".
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Originally posted by Caliburn101
basically that's what every mmo does.
you do not see the "story content" of the elves in WoW, unless you play em, you do not see the storry content of the UD in WoW, unless... yes unless you play em.
you wanna tell me wow is like 8 games in one because you wont see the content made for the specific races?
think about it - that's just the way it is. never been different. games seriously suck if you have ONE story for ALLLLLL races ingame.
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Originally posted by bobfish
DAoC was a completely different game though. In DAoC, you didn't need quest content, because everyone grouped up and grinded open world spawns, dungeons, and battlegrounds for xp. People also liked doing that. But in todays market, people don't play 3-6 hours a day, nor are they willing to wait 20 minutes or so for a group. So developers have to make "quests," which are really just another name for chores, with your token main story to help guide you through each zone.
Originally posted by Maelwydd
No, I don't think my opinion changes any, at least right now, because we have no idea what their idea of leveling is going to be like, is 50 going to be SO much more powerful than 10 or will you just have so many more abilities and specializations to choose from? We don't know. IF the majority of the game is going to really open up at 50 how fast will we progress? They have also stated we will be able to continue to advance once we hit 50, so what is that going to be like. I just think this game is going to be so massive we are going to have plenty to do, to get more specific we will need more information.
Originally posted by Quaiden
And you truly believe that Zenimax, who has already watered down or ommitted features that they believe won't fit well in the MMO landscape is going to provide you with enough things to do per zone to get that 200+ hours of playtime? I ask, what did you do in those games to wrack up that many hours, and then I ask if you think you'll be able to do those same things in a MMORPG? Most people I hear that say they spend that many hours in the single player version do so by exploring every inch, delving into every dungeon, completing every quest, decorating and buying many houses, and maxing out all the skills and even rerolling characters and doing it all again. I think ESO won't have nearly the same freedom, and will be guided like all the other themeparks, thus reducing time spent per zone to something we're all used to. If not, people will complain the game is grindy and it takes too long to reach max level.
Originally posted by nate1980
What have they watered down or omitted that is going to be completely game changing for you? Every Elder Scrolls game has been different from the last in the way the machanics work. This is also not a single player RPG but they did say they first of all want this to be an Elder Scrolls game and second and mmo. With as little information as wel have at this point I am not sure where everyone's doubt is coming from. I have realistic expectations. I am not expectiong Skyrim online or the next WOW killer. I am expecting an TES game which I can play with friends with an massive, dynamic PVP zone. I think they are on the right track but I am not going to shart taking aim at thier knees to shoot their feet from underthem just becuse I don't agree with everything they have said, just because there is so much they have NOT said and could completely change our opinions. I am just trying to stay positive and interested until we know more. I just hope I can get my hands on this as the only think that I completely miss in the single player games is being able to interact with my friends.
Sorry if that was a little rambling in nature.
Where this weird idea that daoc was light on pve content come from?
Daoc had a huge world, at least 3 times the size of any modern mmo e.g. gw2, vanilla rift, swtor, tsw, Aoc. Hell in the case of tsw and swtor probably approaching 10 times the size.
Originally posted by Quaiden
Well, when it comes to popular IP's with well established series, I am a purist. In every TES game, there wasn't any classes. You could choose prebuilt skill sets, but you weren't limited to them. You could still pick and choose which skills you wanted to level up, and by using those skills, they became stronger. I mean skills such as block, blunt, destruction and etc. ESO is going with classes. I know how they said they're doing classes, so I'm not going to say it'll be as restrictive as WoW or anything, but I think it's still watered down compared to TES games. They're introducing GW2 hotbars and elite skills, not to mention a soft target lock. All of which IMO is watered down from the combat in the TES games. They're introducing public quests and a person who played the alpha version said there are quest hubs like WoW, which is also watered down from TES games, which doesn't give you any indication of who might have quests for you to do.
Of course, the game isn't near release yet, things can change, and what works in practice might be better than how it sounds on paper, so I won't berate your optimism or anything. I'm negative towards the game because I'm a purist, but that doesn't mean the game can't be good by its own merit. I'm just the type that puts IP integrity over a fun game. Mainly because I think a Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim Online would be fun and fine the way it is. No need to change much.


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Late Apple CEO Steve Jobs may have wanted to go all thermonuclear on Android over their alleged infringement of Apple's patents, but that doesn't mean they didn't try a pocketbook-based approach behind the scenes. If the current trial between Apple and Samsung over this very matter is any indication, there's a lot that happened behind the scenes that we didn't know about until now. Case in point: the release of a late 2010 Apple slide deck detailing a proposed licensing deal with Samsung that, if accepted, would have put this whole ordeal behind us.
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Apple offered Samsung $30 per smartphone, $40 per tablet patent license
If Samsung chose to not directly copy Apple's designs, it would have been totally free. But no, they thought they could get away with it.
Ummm, not so fast.
Apple didn't patent all possible smartphone UI and hardware designs. Just the best ones. The ones that everyone wants to copy. Especially Samsung.
Didn't you read the article? Apple also wants royalties for their Windows Phone devices too so please tell me in what way WP is like iOS?
Oh plus this more than just design aesthetics going down to how the kernel works. If Apple wins this then its the end of Android and practically any other device that challenges the iPhone as this goes past just Android.
No there are documents that talk about the Android Architecture too if you looked at the presentation Apple made in 2010 plus like I said its not just aesthetics as they wanted royalties from Samsung's Windows Phone devices which look like nothing else on the market. So Apple is basically trying to completely stop the competition.
Here is a link to the presentation and what I was talking about is on page 11- 16
It wasn't just Android & Windows phones Apple was after. The proposed license would have extended to all of Samsung's devices running the Android, Symbian, Bada and Windows Mobile operating systems. The Symbian claim is the most amusing because it came out 10 years BEFORE the iPhone (1997)
wow iOS stole all its ideas from previous phones... But guess what apple is just an ass and takes them to court saying they made the first thing. We need to get real judges that would put apples CEOs on their knees and make then suck the cheap Chinese labourers.
The thing is I think is that it doesn't matter who done what 1st as like many other things in this world there are more than way of doing things and I think the issue at heart here is that Apple just doesn't want others to get to the same end result even though they used a different method for completing the task.
"An approximately $250 million-a-year hit to Samsung's mobile electronics business would have likely been devastating to the division's bottom line"
The mobile division has been the main driver of profits for the last several quarters, almost 60%-70% of the $5.9 Billion profit last quarter, not sure how it would be devastating...
in all seriousness, why would they have to pay apple 6$ for each blackjack...? what are the infringing patents at play with this?
well it may LOOK like a BlackBerry but it's got slightly rounded corners :P
I am so sick of this issue.
It is natural for Apple to want to OWN the mobile space; and natural for Samsung to want a huge slice of it for themselves. The unnatural bit is this legal contest to see who paid the best law firm, or found the most compliant legal environment to play out their attack. Everything I have read and heard about Apples greedy conduct makes me dislike them even more; I honestly did not think that was possible.
I keep hearing Rene say "Apple doesn't want to license, they want to make Android worse." [rough translation]
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Tries from captain Sergio Parisse and prop Martin Castrogiovanni helped Italy to a 23-18 victory over France at the Stadio Flaminio on Sunday, a result which lifts the Azzurri above Wales.
The defeat was a costly one for France, as they surrender their position as the leading northern hemisphere nation in the rankings with England assuming fourth spot by just over four tenths.
England ran out 38-18 winners over Scotland at Twickenham on Saturday but that result had no impact on their rating, with the Scots remaining in their lowest ever position of 12th after failing to end a 30-year wait for victory over the Auld Enemy at the venue.
Ireland were the other winners in round one, withstanding a Welsh second-half fight-back to win 30-22 at the Millennium Stadium. They remain sixth, just over two rating points behind France and now 3.62 points above Samoa and Argentina below them.
The defeat – their eighth in a row since completing the Grand Slam last March – means Wales equal their lowest ever position in the rankings, one they last occupied after losing to Fiji at RWC 2007.
The opening weekend of the Six Nations, though, was not the only tournament to have an impact on the IRB World Rankings with Division 1A of the European Nations Cup 2014 kicking off as well.
With the Europe 1 and 2 qualifiers for RWC 2015 being determined by this competition, and the six sides ranked between 17th and 22nd in the rankings the matches were expected to be tight and so it proved with six points the biggest margin of victory.
That was secured by Romania, who ran out 19-13 winners over Portugal in Lisbon. That result, in tandem with Russia beating the higher ranked Spain 13-9 in Sochi, means that Romania climb one place to 18th.
Russia also rise one to 19th with Spain falling two places from their highest ever ranking as a result of the defeat. Their Iberian neighbours Portugal slip one place to 23rd with Uruguay the beneficiaries.
The other match pitted Georgia against Division 1A newcomers Belgium in Brussels with the defending champions expected to prove too tough for their hosts.
However, the Lelos needed a 71st minute try from replacement Levan Chilachava to secure the 17-13 victory and close to within two rating points of USA above them.
Belgium remain 21st with the defeat, although now only three tenths above
Top 20 on the IRB rankings (last week's ranking in brackets):
1(1) New Zealand 90.08
2(2) South Africa 86.94
3(3) Australia 86.87
4(5) England 83.90
5(4) France 83.49
6(6) Ireland 81.33
7(7) Samoa 78.71
8(8) Argentina 78.71
9(10) Italy 77.82
10(9) Wales 77.27
11(11) Tonga 76.10
12(12) Scotland 75.83
13(13) Fiji 71.52
14(14) Canada 71.41
15(15) Japan 70.09
16(16) United States 68.32
17(17) Georgia 66.59
18(19) Romania 63.17
19(20) Russia 62.35
20(18) Spain 62.23
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No, just avert your eyes in the future
Yes, that's unacceptable
Anyhow, I am just the kind of person who will tell people if they have a booger, or stuff in their eyes. I'll tell you that your fly is down if I notice. I have over the years learned to do these things discretely, but I can't help it.
I won't come out and tell you that "you make that dress look fat," but if you ask me to, I will give you an honest opinion.
I couldn't, especially if this guy is otherwise nice, not say something to him about his offensive behavior.
BTW: Disclaimer: I have had more than my share of black-eyes so I am not necessarily advocating the "being direct" method that I prefer.
There's no time for porn where I work. Although my boss's hubby once showed me a dirty video on his phone. I laughed because it was funny. Wrong, but insanely funny. I couldn't imagine anyone filing a sexual harassment suit on anyone where I work. I wish I had the kind of job where I could just sit in front of a computer, though.
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having had depression myself, i hate to say it... but he pisses me off. he wallows, does NOTHING, complains, is angry and then goes to bed. he only shows his "happy side" when someone else is here. i freaking hate it.
i am going to the library to pick up "The Mood Cure" which really helped me, i will do the reading, get the vitamins, set the whole thing up, encourage him to go running, make good healthy food for him to eat, get him to bed early... and he will do nothing. you know when i was dealing with my depression, i had to do all of that. i had to make myself better. i had to keep going and keep living because i had kids and a family and a life i wanted to live. i wanted to be HAPPY. i wanted to feel better. i hated the anxiety, the stress, and suicidal thoughts. i wanted to feel good again. i found a counsler, i worked really hard. i can't stand it that he just does nothing.
i have been dealing with a UTI for weeks now, and now i have a cold, and i have to deal with the kids, help sis with homework, cook all the meals, do all the house work, plan anything if i want to get out of the house... and then DO IT ALL ALONE, and he does nothing. i want to feel bad for him, but the guy can't even make me a sandwich on the weekend. makes himself a big lunch eats it right in front of me, and leaves me a mess. i am so mad today... i was mad yesterday too. after our fight on sunday, i just... i can't take it. he may just be coming around to the fact that he is depressed, BUT I HAVE KNOW IT FOR 2 YEARS! i have had to keep this family a float and in a semi good space for years now. i hate when i can't wait for monday so i know he will be gone. and i hate looking at the clock and seeing it is almost time for him to come home and being sad about it.
sorry for the rant. i just have much to do and my husband doesn't even care enough about us to get better.
my DH iis depressed too. he knows it and drinks it away. every time we have a talk about it he acknolwedges he has a problem. tell me i am right and should quit, then never does anything about it. i am gong to start al anon meetings. i cant take it anymore. i dont want a divorce but he is taking me down with him. after 7 years, he has made an improvement but iit is never enough for me i feel your pain.
Me,DH,DS1'95, '98,DSD'03,DD1'07,DD2'09,DS2'12 Living with Fructose Malabsorption Syndrome and Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome Type 3-Hypermobility.)o( and sometimes I get toif I am lucky.
Well school has started for ds. My doctor says I am healthy (despite my body). And I start college classes this week (even though I don't have books yet).
I've given up on having my kiddo take the bus to school. I had to call 3 different offices to finally get the schedule and learned that it comes when I would normally leave to drop him off at school. Pfft, this means we'll be waiting around the 5 (probably longer) minutes it takes me to drop him off at school myself and head on to work. So not worth it. He'll get dropped off by the buss and walk to the grandparents' house (across the street) at the end of the day. So he is half a bus student.
I can't believe it's the last day of August, I , hm hm, need to get my car's emissions and get it registered in the next couple days. No idea when, but I'll make it happen some how.
Thinking of you all.
My family of 3 (plus pup) Indigo (Aimee), Rob (dp), Ryne (ds) & Phebe (dog), plus my BIL's family of 3.
"The best way to predict the future is to invent it." - Alan Kay
sorry for the rant. i just have much to do and my husband doesn't even care enough about us to get better.
Don't be sorry, mama. This is where you can rant.
I kwym, too. I am an alcoholic and my sweetie is still active, and I am SO frustrated by it. I want to just swat him upside the head. Doesn't the possibility of pancreatitis scare him into getting help? Doesn't the knowledge that he got his true love back motivate? Nope. And the worst part is, I know that alcoholism is alcoholism...it's a disease that tells us we don't have a disease, and it's utterly helpless and hopeless. Until it's not. Sigh.
It hurts so much worse when we have the illness our sweeties have, and we've done so much work to get through and past it, and they won't/don't/can't.
Lioness-- good call on Al-anon. They'll send you free literature, too, if you want. Check out their website. My mom used to be secretary to the head honcho over in Va.Beach before she retired. Good folks, there.
Me Handfasted wife to M as of 3/7/10 , and Mama to R (1/31/01)
It's my birthday today! I'm 29 now, so I think I'll stop. Naw, I don't mind aging. Seems silly to rejoice in the changing of seasons and not accept the ones inherent to life.
And now I am off to a bust day with my kiddo! See y'all!
Shelley, mom to dd 5/19/01, ds 9/06/02, and ds 4/01/07. Lost babe 4/09
Due 12/18/12!
We tried counseling, everything. I finally sat with divorce papers in my lap and he realized i was done. I told him as long as he acted like a spoiled child I would treat him as such. When he would get his comic books to hide, then treat everyone like crap I would take said comic book and make him watch me cut it up in front of him.
I've even put him in time out. He's calmed now because I guess I'm a bit meaner than I look. I remember when I told the counselor about it, he chuckled and said good for me then asked dh how it felt to him. He said it upset him (he threw a tantrum actually the first few times) but it brought life into perspective. I wish I was closer hon, we could hang out *hugs*
Happy Birthday Millie!
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I'm really getting kicked by the baby. It's pretty cool. The kids start up dance school on the 10th. Going to be really busy this year
happy birthday, young one!
hugs to all dealing with depression. sending peaceful vibes your way....
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It's my birthday today! I'm 29 now, so I think I'll stop. Naw, I don't mind aging.
Happy birthday! Aging...pshaw. I'm going to be 51 in November. 29 is a baby
Actually, I stressed so much about turning 30 that it was 29 that I worried about, so 30 was an anticlimax by comparison
I think every decade just gets better and better. 50 is incredible. Of course, falling back in love helps
Indigo-- I've been trying to track the storm on the 'net. I don't have cable. What a pain!
But yeah, it's looking like maybe Earl will be cruising the NC coast by Thursday, which means my flight should be fine, and then hitting Boston by Friday
I'm still prepared to jet out of here tomorrow, if things look to change. M has no idea. Oh well
Me Handfasted wife to M as of 3/7/10 , and Mama to R (1/31/01)
Anyway, hope you mamas are having a good day. Maia, let me know if you still want that spell.
Not new, lol. She found them at a thrift store (!!!) for 25 bucks and they just baaaaarely fit.
I've been drooling over Fluevogs for years now, this style especially. Vog on, baby.
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the birthday that was hardest for me was 33. i felt like 1/3 of my life was over... what had i done? very weird. lol now i will be 38 on the 6 of sept and i feel so good. lol
thanks for all the hugs. i feel grateful dh doesn't have an addiction on top of the depression... he just wallows, and is moody. the last few days have just been ruff. could be my hormones on top of everything, but i keep thinking about it and getting more angry, and then i start pulling up old issues... which isn't good. i need to stay focused on what is going on now. talked to a dear friend on the phone for a bit today and that helped. thankfully we get insurance on wednesday and i am going to encourage him to find someone to talk to. i know depression doesn't have to make sense... but when i look at his life, i just get disgusted by the fact that he can't be happy in it. like what are you so depressed about? you have a GREAT job that pays really well they love you there. you have 5 healthy happy kids, a wife who loves you dearly, he is healthy (other than mentally), he eats well, has a roof over his head, clean running water, friends, a loving family that is close by... oh you poor thing. how do you manage each day? lol i know bitchy sorry. i know my depression made no sense, that is why i worked so hard to get thru it. i still love him so much it hurts. i want my happy man back, my confident man. i don't really like this new guy.
ok all done with that.
SO you can't move a broom with you? how did i not know this? i loved my broom from maine and so it came with us. lol maybe that is our problem? lol
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Happy Birthday Millie!
Momofthree: switch from DH to DD and you are in my shoes. It's not easier with a child than a spouse.
We have another crisis here... DD1 is upset and DH is gone I don't know where... I'm tired and just want all this drama to come to an end, is it too much to ask?
Off to try to get DD2 in bed... She says she's not tired (not true, I see the "signs") but I need some undisturbed time that won't happen before she's in bed.
I don't usually do this except in extreme circumstances... but some good vibes from around the globe would be handy right about now. DH got a call to meet the boss after work today, he was told that his contract is terminated as of tomorrow. He will get paid for the 2 wks just worked, plus 2 weeks as severance pay. SO please send good job vibes our way, we're gonna need them. There was no hint that his job was in jeopardy, but there are a lot of changes being made in the company so there you have it
Millie- sorry I missed your birthday! Those shoes look awesome, hope you get to wear them to something fun and exciting!
It has been a tough day or two, and I was so looking for a break but my mom isn't taking the kids after all (well not overnight).
Lioness- *hugs*
Mamaofthree- *hugs*
Aweyn- The only thing I knew not to bring was my old broom. I couldn't afford to replace all my herbs but I might buy some new ones that are the most used. So maybe basil, oregano, mint etc.
Thinking of you!
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We , , , , not in that order
Hey mamas... sorry I've been awol for a few days. Been busy with outings for the boys with schoolwork and stuff... and doing a few things for hubby's birthday today.
I don't usually do this except in extreme circumstances... but some good vibes from around the globe would be handy right about now. DH got a call to meet the boss after work today, he was told that his contract is terminated as of tomorrow. He will get paid for the 2 wks just worked, plus 2 weeks as severance pay. SO please send good job vibes our way, we're gonna need them. There was no hint that his job was in jeopardy, but there are a lot of changes being made in the company so there you have it
that is totally not cool. at least you will get some severance pay . hope he finds something new quick
why arent we supposed to bring old stuff with us? i bring all my old stuff. brooms ( i have a special broom i've had for at least 10 years). cant all the energy of the stuff be cleared and recharged?
Me,DH,DS1'95, '98,DSD'03,DD1'07,DD2'09,DS2'12 Living with Fructose Malabsorption Syndrome and Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome Type 3-Hypermobility.)o( and sometimes I get toif I am lucky.
Cari, Hugs to you and your family. I will be thinking about you and sending job finding vibes your way asap!
Aweyn, I don't bring my broom, I have been known to leave a vacuum behind too. When I can't afford to leave the vacuum I bring it in the new place through a window. Might be some old family superstition because I can't remember why the window??
MO3, Hugs. Depression is such a difficult issue to get through for all involved.
Millie, Happy Birthday
I guess I did something similar symbolically though, last time we moved. I decided I *could* *not* bear using our old broken vacuum any more and insisted that we buy a new vacuum for our new home. We got a cute little red Miele and it is still going strong a decade later. Helps that we ripped all the carpets out, but it still gets used once a week or so.
Hugs, aweyn -- I know it is complicated for you - but hey, you are finally settling in to your home on your own! The love and creativity you, your dh and ds share will fill the place and overcome anything negative.
Thinking good thoughts for those of you dealing with depression and/or addiction in the family.
ETA just peeked back on the last page and found posts I missed. Cari for manifesting an even better situation for your dh asap! Take care of yourself, mama - this stuff hits you in the gut. Be gentle with yourself.
But I'm UBER-glad this one is staying the heck away from Boston. I'm SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO excited to see M tomorrow!
Cari-- ugh. I posted to your FB. Happy birthday Daim, but they just totally did him wrong on all accounts I hope this opens the door to something even better for him and your family
Brooms: I never bring brooms to new places. Except for my hand broom (dust broom? What do you call it; I forgot?) which I love and I consider to have lots of good energy in it, and my swiffer wet thingy which I lurve too, cause a friend taught me how to make an essential oil blend instead of using the toxic crud that comes with it
My vacuum-- I love that thing. My mom bought it for me. It was like a $400+ vacuum, but it was mismarked at Walmart and I got it for like $250 or so, after a hassle with the management I really need to take it to the vacuum place and have it serviced.
Happy September! Did anyone start a new thread yet? Maybe I should go start one?
Me Handfasted wife to M as of 3/7/10 , and Mama to R (1/31/01)
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It was an insanely busy week at my desk, so I didn't get to do as much blogging as I would've liked. And I'm wiped out. But here are (some of) the fruits of my labor:
-Moonalice guitarist Roger McNamee talked to me a lot more about the music industry than music, and it would seem he knows what he's talking about. Anyone with an interest in the business of music in 2009 — I'm talking to you, local musicians — should read this article. Moonalice performs tonight at Silver Moon brewery.
Oh, and you can follow Moonalice's Twitter here. And hey, while you're there, follow Frequency, too!
-David Bowers has had a great run as a singer-songwriter living in Bend over the past decade, but it's time for him to move on, south to California. I asked Bowers to reflect on his time here, the local music scene, and his future as a performer. Read what he had to say here.
-Clear Summer Nights has two solid singer-songwriters performing on Sunday. The headliner is Jackie Greene, but you want to make sure you get there in time to catch local dude Eric Tollefson, who's also opening for G. Love early next month. Kinda makes you wonder if Tollefson is heading for big things, doesn't it?
–The Staxx Brothers play heavy, booty-shakin' soul music. There is no other way to say it.
-Get all the details on shows by Po' Girl, The Honey Trees, Wesley Jensen and The Pack, as well as Moon Mountain Ramblers, The JZ Band and Shireen Amini. Also, there's a benefit party for lost dogs in Chile tomorrow night.
Some of those links are available to everyone, and some only to subscribers. To get it all, pick up a copy of The Bulletin and look for GO! Magazine, where we also have coverage of local plays, visual arts, restaurants, movies, DVDs, video games, and just about anything else you can do to entertain yourself.


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The Center for Structural Molecular Biology at ORNL is dedicated to developing instrumentation and methods for determining the 3-dimensional structures of proteins, nucleic acids (DNA/RNA) and their higher order complexes. The tools of the CSMB will help understand how these macromolecular systems are formed and how they interact with other systems in living cells. The focus of the CSMB is to bridge the information gap between cellular function and the molecular mechanisms that drive it. The suite of tools being developed by the CSMB includes:
Another computation technique developed for the study of calculates solution small-angle X-ray and neutron scattering intensity profiles by ORNL-SAS. This makes it possible to develop from a wide variety of structures, including atomicresolution models of proteins and protein complexes, low-resolution models defined in any manner, or combinations of both.
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SANS can be used to study biological systems under near physiological conditions, providing insight into interactions within complexes and conformational changes in response to stimuli. Through the use of specific deuterium labeling SANS makes it possible to highlight and map components within larger complexes (e.g. viruses, ribosome). The SANS instruments at ORNL's High Flux Isotope Reactor and Spallation Neutron Source will open new opportunities for studying conformational changes and molecular processes on biologically relevant timescales.
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ROCKFORD, Ill.---The Chicago Wolves pulled ahead in the second period and held on to grab a 4-3 win against the Rockford IceHogs at the Rockford MetroCentre Friday night.
Forwards Ryan Garbutt (G, 2A), Jason Krog and Tim Miller and defenseman Andrey Zubarev scored for Chicago.
Rockford (21-25-3-4) got on board first 14:07 into the game with a power-play marker when center Ryan Potulny one timed a shot down the slot, beating Chicago goaltender Drew MacIntyre glove side.
Chicago (29-23-2-4) answered 16:05 into the first frame to tie the score at one. Garbutt took a feed from center Angelo Esposito in the left faceoff circle and ripped a shot that flew by Rockford netminder Alec Richards.
Garbutt came streaking down the ice and drop passed the puck to Krog, who fired a shot from the high slot to give the Wolves a 2-1 lead, 3:08 into the second period.
The Wolves pulled to 3-1 with a power-play strike when Zubarev shot a blast that deflected off a Rockford player and bounced into the net behind Richards, 18:59 into the middle frame, and Miller redirected Garbutt's shot in the slot 44 seconds later to bring the score to 4-1.
Richards (11-18-1) recorded 24 saves for Rockford.
The IceHogs made the score 4-2 9:56 into the third period on the power-play when Potulny one timed a feed in the slot past MacIntyre, stick side.
Rockford left wing Kyle Beach found the rebounded puck in the paint and popped it past MacIntyre on the power-play to close out scoring, 4-3, 13:17 into the final frame.
MacIntyre (10-5-1) kicked out 29 shots in the win.
The Wolves return to the Allstate Arena to face the Texas Stars on Saturday at 7 p.m.
Chicago 1 3 0 -- 4
Rockford 1 0 2 -- 3
First Period---1, Rockford, Potulny 15 (Connelly, Taffe), 14:07 pp; 2, Chicago, Garbutt 14 (Esposito, Pettersson), 16:05. Penalties---Welch, Chicago (holding), 13:02; Huxley, Chicago (fighting), 14:17; Hagel, Rockford (fighting), 14:17; LeBlanc, Rockford (holding), 16:53.
Second Period---3, Chicago, Krog 12 (Garbutt, Welch), 3:08; 4, Chicago, Zubarev 2 (Deveaux, Ross), 18:59 pp; 5, Chicago, Miller 3 (Garbutt, Sifers), 19:43. Penalties---Miller, Chicago (hooking), 3:51; Bohmbach, Rockford (hooking), 18:12.
Third Period---6, Potulny 16 (Taffe, Pirri), 9:56 pp; 7, Beach 12 (Connelly, Taffe), 13:17 pp. Penalties---Zubarev, Chicago (hooking), 9:50; Kulda, Chiago (hooking), 12:29; Cullimore, Rockford (slashing), 17:53; Deveaux, Chicago (fighting), 20:00; Hagel, Rockford (fighting), 20:00.
Shots on goal---Chicago: 10-14-4--28. Rockford: 7-11-14--32. Power plays---Chicago: 1-3. Rockford: 3-4. Goalies--Chicago, MacIntyre (29-32). Rockford, Richards (24-28). A---5,403. Referee---Francis Charron. Linesmen---Judson Ritter and Matt MacPherson.


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Since 2005, a group of activists have annually reenacted the lynching of Roger and Dorothy Malcom and George and Mae Murray Dorsey, murdered on Moore's Ford Bridge in Monroe, Georgia, on July 25, 1946. In his Southern Spaces essay "'Holding on to Those Who Can't be Held': Reenacting a Lynching at Moore's Ford, Georgia," Mark Auslander explores the complexities of this ritual performance. This year's reenactment, occuring later this month, will be filmed for the documentary Always In Season by San Francisco-based filmaker Jacqueline Olive. Below is the flyer for the event, organized by Cassandra Greene and the Georgia Association of Black Elected Officials (GABEO):
66th Anniversary Commemoration and 8th Annual Reenactment of the Lynchings at the Moore's Ford Bridge, Monroe, Georgia
Remembering Victims of Lynchings Throughout the USA
Saturday, July 28, 2012, 12 Noon
First African Baptist Church, 130 Tyler Street, Monroe, GA 30655
(at Highway 11, Across from Church's Chicken)
12 Noon - Church opens for meditation and prayers for justice.
1 p.m. - Pre-Reenactment rally. Invited guest speakers will include national and local Civil/Human Rights activists, clergy and political peaders.
Narrator, Mr. Robert Howard, Walton County Director, Min. Cassandra Greene, Director Ms. Hattie Lawson, Chair, Athens Area Human Relations Council
Reenactment Timeline
3:00 p.m. - Leave First African Baptist Church for visitation of the Malcom and Dorsey gravesites.
4:45 p.m. - Arrive at the farm house of Barney Hester, 2932 Hester Town Road. (This is where the altercation occurred leading to the arrest of Roger Malcom, Sunday, July 14, 1946.)
5 p.m. - Leave Barney Hester's House
5:15 p.m. - Arrive at the Old County Jail, 203 Milledge Avenue, Downtown Monroe. (This is where Roger Malcom was held for 11 days.)
5:30 p.m. - Leave the jail en route to the Moore's Ford Bridge. (This is the exact time that Loy Harrison, a white farmer, took the Malcoms and the Dorseys from the jail and delivered them to the KKK lynch mob waiting at the Moore's Ford Bridge.)
6 p.m. - Arrive at the Moore's Ford Bridge for the Reenactment Ceremony and Call for Justice: Arrest and Prosecution Now!!
7 p.m. - Benediction at the historic memorial marker dedicated to the legacy of Roger and Dorothy Malcom (and Justice, unborn infant) and George and Mae Murray Dorsey.
Here's a Challenge to Us All to Continue Our Quest and Pursuit of Justice.
Moore's Ford Bridge Lynching is the last unsolved mass lynching in US History!
$35,000 Reward for info that leads to the arrest and prosecution of the killers.
If you have information of the lynchings, please contact: The GBI – 404-244-2600 or the FBI – 404-679-9000. For more information contact: Rep. Tyrone Brooks, President, Georgia Association of Black Elected Officials, 404-656-6372 or 404-372-1894, Cassandra Greene, Director 770-899-7424, or visit our Web site: www.ga-gabeo.org.
Message to the killers: "You can run but you can't hide forever!"
America, we must respect and uphold "The Rule of Law."
From Atlanta:
Take I-20 East Exit 82 at Conyers-Athens (Highway 138). Turn left and head straight to Monroe (Pass McDonalds on your left and keep straight on Highway 78) Exit at Highway 11 (Monroe Exit). Turn right. Go one block and turn left on Tyler Street Church is on your left (look for Church's Chicken on the right).
Coming I-20 West:
Exit at Monroe Monticello Exit 98. Turn right. Stay on Highway 11 straight to Monroe (approximately 13 miles). You will pass through downtown Social Circle. Go straight ahead to Monroe. Stay on Highway 11 Look for Church's Chicken on your left. Turn right on Tyler Street You are at the church.
Coming From Athens:
Take Highway 78 West to Monroe Exit on East Spring Street. Come into town. Take a right on Broad Street at courthouse (Hwy.11). Turn right and come up to Church's Chicken. Turn right on Tyler Street.
Coming from Stone Mountain or Gwinnett County area:
Take Highway 78 East to Monroe.
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Come to Monticello Take Highway 11 North all the way to Monroe. (Follow the instructions as outlined above.)
Note: If you pass Church's Chicken you have gone too far.
Church Telephone Number 770-267-5819
Moore's Ford Lynching Reenactment»
|James D. Lynch (1839–1872) was the first African American to serve as the Secretary of State of Mississippi. Born to a white father and black mother in Baltimore, Maryland, Lynch was trained as a minister at Kimball Union Academy in Meriden, New Hampshire, and then preached in Galena, Indiana until the Civil War. After the war, Lynch preached in South Carolina, and later in Mississippi, where the plight of blacks led him to join the Republican Party. He quickly rose to prominence in the party and in Mississippi politics. Shortly after his death, the Republican-controlled Mississippi legislature voted to invest $1000 in a monument to Lynch to be erected in the previously all-white Greenwood Cemetery in Jackson, Mississippi.
The Bulletin compiles news from in and around the US South. We hope these posts will provide space for lively discussion and debate regarding issues of importance to those living in and intellectually engaging with the US South.
- The Army Corps of Engineers is planning to close a controversial freshwater diversion that appeared to be building new land at West Bay at the mouth of the Mississippi in the lower Plaquemines Parish, Louisiana. The Corps now plans to use sediment dredged from the river to accomplish the same goal of rebuilding wetlands on the Louisiana coast.
- Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann is seeking federal approval for the state's new voter ID law (House Bill 921). Hosemann is in the process of estimating how many Mississippi voters currently lack proper identification under the new law. He claims that the bill does not suffer from the same issues that led the Justice Department to reject similar proposals in Texas and South Carolina earlier this year.
- The US Supreme Court handed down a ruling yesterday in the case of Fletcher v. Lamone which upheld Maryland's "No Representation Without Population Act." The law was enacted in 2010 to ensure that incarcerated persons would be counted as residents of their home addresses when the state drew new legislative districts. Large populations of incarcerated persons had previously been counted in the districts in which they were imprisoned (prison-based gerrymandering). Passage of the bill (passed as HB 496 and SB 400) in 2010, and its affirmation in the nation's highest court on Tuesday, was heralded as a major civil rights victory.
The Bulletin—June 26, 2012»
|Tom Rankin, Delta Winter, Bolivar County, Mississippi, 2010.
Tom Rankin is stepping down as the director of the Center for Documentary Studies at Duke University after fifteen years of service. During Tom's tenure as director, CDS has become an internationally recognized documentary arts institution, annually offering many undergraduate courses and continuing education classes leading to certificates. Integral to these educational experiences are the center's exhibitions, books, awards, radio programming, multimedia production, fieldwork projects, and the Full Frame Documentary Film Festival. In addition to his work at CDS, Tom Rankin is an editorial board member of Southern Spaces. We are excited that Tom will have time to do more photography and teaching. He will also become director of the MFA in Experimental and Documentary Arts program. Below is the job announcement for the open director position:
The Center for Documentary Studies at Duke University seeks a director with proven leadership skills and a demonstrated passion for the documentary arts. The director will supervise a management team with thirty-two full-time and approximately forty part-time staff and faculty. The Center has an operating budget of $4 million, eighteen percent of which comes from Duke University, with the remainder flowing from its $30 million endowment and additional grants. Managing additional fund-raising is a major responsibility of the director. Founded in 1989, the Center annually oversees numerous undergraduate and continuing education courses as well as workshops in the documentary arts. It also collaborates on an MFA program, while supporting cutting-edge documentary work in photography, film and video, narrative writing, community studies, and documentary radio production. Dedicated to the ideals of social and environmental justice, CDS specializes in work that documents diverse, underrepresented voices and that balances community goals with individual artistic expression. The new director should have significant experience as a practitioner, teacher, and leader in the documentary arts, and ordinarily will hold an academic appointment in the appropriate department in Duke's School of Arts and Sciences. Read more: www.documentarystudies.duke.edu.
DEADLINE: September 1, 2012. To apply, send a cover letter, resume, and references to Professor William Chafe, c/o Joan Shipman, Office of the Dean of Arts and Sciences, Box 90046, 421 Chapel Drive, Allen Building 104, Durham, NC, 27708.
According to Duke Yearlook:
Courtesy of Duke University Archives, Durham, North Carolina.
This week's Bulletin focuses on recent announcements in publishing and digital scholarship. We hope these posts will provide space for lively discussion and debate regarding these issues.
- The Modern Language Association (MLA) announced that its journals (PMLA, Profession, and the bulletins of the Association for Departments of English and Association for Departments of Foreign Languages) have adopted new "open-access-friendly" author agreements, which "leave copyright with the authors and explicitly permit authors to deposit in open-access repositories and post on personal or departmental Web sites the versions of their manuscripts accepted for publication." MLA Executive Director Rosemary G. Feal suggested that the change might encourage open access to humanities scholarship more broadly.
- Also, the American Historical Association announced the establishment of a Task Force on Digital Scholarship to assess the state of digital scholarship in the historical profession, evaluate tenure and promotion practices and graduate training, and issue guidelines for the evaluation of digital scholarship similar to those released by the MLA in 2007. This task force was formed in response to an open letter drafted by graduate students, tenured and non-tenured faculty, and librarians at a THATCamp AHA session in January.
- On May 24, the University of Missouri announced that it would begin phasing out its press, the University of Missouri Press, beginning in July. The planned shutdown of the press, which was established in 1958 and is known for the collected works of Langston Hughes and series on Mark Twain and Harry S. Truman, has been met with opposition via letters to the editor in Missouri newspapers, a facebook page, and public statements by prominent alums and donors. It is unclear whether these voices will ultimately save the press, as happened with the Louisiana State University Press in 2009.
The Bulletin—June 12, 2012»
|Natasha Trethewey interviewing Elizabeth Alexander, 2009. From Southern Spaces.
This week, Natasha Trethewey was named the United States Poet Laureate. As we celebrate and congratulate her, we wanted to take a moment to share her contributions to Southern Spaces.
Trethewey has been an important figure in the life of our journal. As well as serving on our board, she co-produces Poets in Place, a series on the site since 2005. Poets in Place presents original videos of poets reading and discussing their poems in locations they write about. Videos of her poems "Elegy for the Native Guards" and "Theories of Time and Space" were published in 2005. Since then, as Trethewey won the Pulitzer Prize and became the US Poet Laureate, she continued her commitment to Southern Spaces, interviewing poets, including Elizabeth Alexander, publishing readings of "Congregation" and "Geography," and sitting for an hour long interview in 2010. Below is a bibliography of Trethewey's contributions to Southern Spaces.
Poets in Place, http://southernspaces.org/browse/poets-in-place.
Trethewey, Natasha. "Congregation." September 9, 2010. http://www.southernspaces.org/2010/congregation.
———. "Elegy for the Native Guards." June 10, 2005. http://www.southernspaces.org/2005/elegy-native-guards.
———. "Geography." January 11, 2011. http://southernspaces.org/2011/geography.
———. "Jake Adam York interviews Natasha Trethewey." June 25, 2010. http://www.southernspaces.org/2010/jake-adam-york-interviews-natasha-trethewey.
———. "Theories of Time and Space." June 20, 2005. http://www.southernspaces.org/2005/theories-time-and-space.
Albergotti, Dan. "Shadows along the Waccamaw." November 24, 2008. http://www.southernspaces.org/2008/shadows-along-waccamaw.
Alexander, Elizabeth. "Natasha Trethewey interveiws Elizabeth Alexander." December 10, 2009. http://www.southernspaces.org/2009/natasha-trethewey-interviews-elizabeth-alexander.
Brown, Jericho. "Naming Each Place." March 4, 2010. http://www.southernspaces.org/2010/naming-each-place.
Hill, Sean. "The Morning with Many Tongues." February 27, 2009. http://www.southernspaces.org/2009/morning-many-tongues.
Jones, Rodney. "An Absence I Know I Won't Reclaim." January 22, 2009. http://www.southernspaces.org/2009/absence-i-know-i-wont-reclaim.
Phillips, Patrick. "Watching the Surface for a Sign." April 14, 2009. http://southernspaces.org/2009/watching-surface-sign.
York, Jake Adam. "A Field Guide to Northeast Alabama." March 7, 2008. http://www.southernspaces.org/2008/field-guide-northeast-alabama.


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Wednesday, July 17, 2013
Since sitting in the hushed sanctuary of our elementary school library I have always loved books.
As a true bibliophile would, I began amassing quite a collection of books about trees when I started planting them in earnest, more than a decade ago. One of my recent acquisitions was a gift that I would like to recommend, especially to anyone new to tree farming.
This excellent forestry primer is "A Landowner's Guide to Managing Your Woods" subtitled "How To Maintain a Small Acreage for Long-Term Health, Biodiversity and High-Quality Timber Production."
I especially liked the introduction's opening paragraph that stated, "Most of us own woods – or want to own them for the same reason…trees make us happy." Indeed.
What follows are nine chapters that expound on the many tasks and considerations woodland owners face, beginning with the sensible question, "Why manage your woods?" Next, there is an explanation of how forests grow, instruction on how to take a woodland inventory and advice about establishing goals for your property.
Chapter five stresses the importance of working with a forester and collaborating to write a management plan. DIY landowner projects are suggested together with related safety considerations. Chapters seven and eight explain the logging industry and the process of harvesting timber.
The final chapter delves into financial and legacy issues.
Importantly, because forestry does have its own language, there is a glossary. There is also a very helpful section titled "Resources" that lists a diverse collection of individuals, organizations, databases, books etc. that can provide additional information, while a thorough index helps you find topics of interest quickly. Easy to comprehend black and white illustrations appear throughout the book.
My favorite parts were the numerous "Profiles" of real forest landowners from across the country. Included was the fascinating story of Dr. Skeet Burris and his wife Gail, who were the 1995 S.C. Tree Farmers of the Year.
This book's three authors approached the topics from different perspectives. Ann Larkin Hansen and her husband manage a 125-acre Wisconsin tree farm. Mike Severson is a Certified Master Logger specializing in small private woodlands, while Dennis Waterman has been a consulting forester for over 40 years. Their book was named 2011 Woodlands Book of the Year by the National Woodland Owners Association.
Joanna Angle is a Master Tree Farmer and 2012 South Carolina Tree Farmer of the Year.
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Steam Train Music Fest honors Toledo's Americana rootsWritten by Brian Bohnert | | firstname.lastname@example.com
Six of Northwest Ohio's most prominent Americana, folk and blues bands are poised to take the stage in honor of Toledo's old-time music roots later this month.
The Steam Train Roots Music Festival will take place Aug. 25 at The Village Idiot in Maumee. The multiband festival begins at 4:30 p.m. and lasts well into the midnight hour, with each act paying tribute to Toledo's music history.
"The concept is like the roots of a tree," said Larry Meyer, co-founder of the event. "It's what other music stems from. Whether it's traditional blues, delta blues, folk or string bands, they were the forerunners of modern music."
Meyer said the goal of the festival is not only to pay tribute to the Americana forefathers like Gram Parsons, Jerry Garcia and Bob Dylan, but also to honor the local musicians who keep the historical sounds alive in Northwest Ohio.
"People are a part of this history. It's not an antiquated music style," Meyer said. "It's a niche deal, but people who are already fans of Americana will love it. And anyone who just wants to listen to a collection of good Americana music, boom. Here it is under one roof."
Meyer's band, Old State Line, will kick off the concert, followed by Dooley Wilson, Meaghan Roberts, Andrew Ellis and Lucky Lemont, The Blowing Grains and local rock-a-billy favorite, Kentucky Chrome as the closing act at 10 p.m.
Meyer is the drummer and percussionist for Old State Line, an acoustic Americana band that also features Rayna Zacharias (bass), Cindy Lipman (fiddle, vocals) and Ramsey Abu-Absi (guitar, mandolin and vocals). Heavily inspired by Steve Earle, Old Crow Medicine Show and Townes Van Zandt, Old State Line grew out of a pick-up jam session in Toledo's historic Old West End.
"We're too country to be rock and too rock to be country," Meyer said.
Before the group opens the Steam Train Music Fest, Old State Line with kick off the first set at the Blissfield Bluegrass on the River, just hours before taking the stage in Maumee.
Meyer co-founded the festival with fellow musician and bassist for local bluegrass favorite Blowing Grains, Ben Langlois. Over months of planning, Meyer and Langlois scanned the area looking for the best, most versatile collection of Americana bands in Toledo.
Despite being familiar with numerous folk, blues and bluegrass-influenced groups in the area, Meyer said he and Langlois chose the other groups based on their extensive musical repertoires and past experiences seeing the bands live.
"We realized we know these cats," Meyer said. "We knew that, with these guys, we'd get great music. We wanted it to be like, if we weren't playing in the event, we'd want to attend; we'd want to show up and listen."
Langlois will join Meyer in the festival, plucking the strings on his bass with his band, Blowing Grains. Touring the area with the current lineup for nearly three years, The Blowing Grains is a five to six-person group with a heavy focus on acoustic guitars, banjo, fiddle and an electric bass.
"We've always got some guitar, mandolin, fiddle … it's pretty straight-ahead stuff, traditional bluegrass," Langlois said. "We've got a bunch of talented musicians with a solid repertoire of work. Great players, great instruments, great music, all together."
The title of the event is a subtle nod to the late Steam Train Maury (Maurice W. Graham), a legendary, five-time "King of the Hobos" who rode the rails during the Great Depression before returning to the Glass City and starting a successful career as a cement mason in the late 1930s.
While gracing the festival with Graham's name was Meyer's initial idea, it was Langlois who gave the decision a deeper meaning. As a child, Langlois had the opportunity to meet the legendary "hobo king" during a sobering trip with his father to the bearded old man's house after his own grandfather's death.
"He and my grandfather were close. They both belonged to the Seventh Day Adventist Church and Maury had a small plot of land he farmed on my grandfather's land," Langlois said. "I was super intimidated and super fascinated by him because he was blind and, like, 90 years older than me, and he was old, crouched over and he had that beard. I remember hearing that he was the 'King of the Hobos' and I imagined it as 'King of the Hobbits' because my older sisters were reading the Tolkien books at the time."
Graham died in 2006 at the age of 89. The Steam Train Music Festival serves as a small tribute to "Steam Train Maury" and the life he led as a fabled vagabond.
The Village Idiot is located at 309 Conant St. in Uptown Maumee. Tickets to the event are $5 at the door and each ticket is good for all six sets.
Tags: Andrew Ellis and Lucky Lemont, Ben Langlois, Blissfield Bluegrass on the River, Dooley Wilson, Kentucky Chrome, Larry Meyer, Meaghan Roberts, Old State Line, Steam Train Roots Music Festival, The Blowing Grains, The Village Idiot


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