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It's a Marathon, not a sprint
David Gibson November 2, 2012 - 4:54pm
Mayor Bloomberg seems to think that if we don't hold the New York City Marathon on Sunday then the Hurricane wins. Opposition is growing, and count me among the advocates of postponing. Why the obsession with always pretending that life goes on no matter the tragedy or disaster? Or keeping to previous schedules to show how tough or resilient we are? Sometimes life, and death, happens. It's fine to mark that, and to allow it to alter the course of things. This was a huge wallop, and healing will take time.The Syndic of Gotham says the race brings in much-needed cash to the storm-tossed city. Yes, but does everything have to be about business and marketing and the bottom line? Okay, so let the Chamber of Commerce picture this image instead: race volunteers on Staten Island handing out cups of water to runners while residents of the neighborhoods around them are without water to drink. Now there's the kind of PR the city doesn't need.New Yorkers are indeed a tough lot -- they are showing that every moment of every day in the race to pick up, buck, up and carry on. Give them a medal, not a marathon.BREAKING: The Mayor's office reads dotCommonweal, and within moments of my posting this they called off the Marathon. No word yet on rescheduling. Good for them. And I'll cheer when they run through next year, or even next week.
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Life in urban storm-wracked America is quite tough these days. The latest smart iphones don't have service; Starbux aren't open for purchase of the grande loopa amontillado triple cappucinos; Broadway shows aren't showing; and now ... horrors! ... the marathon can't happen.In the immortal words of Tiny Tim: God bless us, one and all. If we just persevere we can have our toys back real soon.(How many people have died on the Eastern seaboard so far?)
I understand the viewpoint of people who wanted the marathon cancelled, but I think a lot of people will be very disappointed as well. If the recovery isn't complete by Thanksgiving, should we cancel the parade?
I think its just days away from the disaster & theyre still looking for bodies and people in Staten Island and Queens and other places are beside themselves with grief and need. The marathon, if run this coming weekend, would seem to suggest that their plight is just one of those things. I think cancelling it was prudent. It can always be rescheduled.
George Vecsey has a good column in tomorrow's (i.e. Saturday, Nov. 3) N.Y. Times on the decision to call off the marathon: "Wisely Stepping Aside in a Bombarded City."http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/03/sports/george-vecsey-canceling-the-mar...
The cynical response could be that the city has made a lot of money just having the runners show up (hotel rooms, food, transport, etc.) and then calls it off... Should have done that sooner. But having decided to carry on with the Marathon, the city should have stuck to its position. The first right position was to call if off, having decided to carry on, they should have.Christine Quinn, city council president, came out against today. But then she's running for mayor. Hmmm!
The brunt of the storm hit Monday night and it wasnt until later Tuesday that the recovery started: 4 days before the Marathon. Many residents cannot get to work and some still cannot get groceries yet the city is going to transport 40,000 runners plus all their supporters. The only answer was to cancel. At least Bloomberg finally recognized the situation and corrected his decision.
The city could not prevent the hurricane, but it could have canceled the marathon before people flew in from abroad. It owes runners compensation for local expenses at least. Perhaps the city can compensate the runners by footing the bills for their hotel stays, or by offering them vouchers for free food, lodging, and participation next year.
I think Christine Quinn is out to lunch on this one. [Thanks to Mollie for the correction.] Two generators that had been sent to Central Park in order to power the finish-line festivities could have provided electricity to four hundred homes on Staten Island. The scale of human suffering is quite staggering. The Island is reeling. The Rockaways are teetering on the edge of chaos. There was no way the marathon could have gone on. Bloomberg should have recognized this earlier. But how much earlier? Enough to allow the marathoners to recoup their expenses? I don't think so. And I don't think the city should give them one dime. Not until every effort has been made to relieve the suffering of the people who have been displaced by this act of God.
Wait, Christine Quinn was against holding the marathon -- not against canceling it. I'm pretty disgusted with the way Bloomberg and the marathon organizers have been trying to spin the opposition to holding the marathon as entirely emotional. The case for holding the marathon was an emotional appeal to "resilience" and "unity," and it fell flat with New Yorkers. But the case against is primarily a practical one -- the city has urgent needs that the marathon would disrupt. From the NYT: "Critics said that it would be in poor taste to hold a foot race through the five boroughs while so many people in the area were still suffering from the storms damage, and that city services should focus on storm relief, not the marathon." I'd flip that sentence around. Is it in "poor taste" to start a race in Staten Island while they're still finding bodies? Sure. But it's the second part, about how the city should be focusing its services on relief and recovery, that fueled the criticism I heard. Even now the organizers are claiming that it's all about being tasteful: "While holding the race would not require diverting resources from the recovery effort, it is clear that it has become the source of controversy and division." That's ridiculous. The generators. The gasoline. The port-a-potties. The hotel rooms needed for displaced New Yorkers. The ambulances and EMTs and police officers. And then there's the pressure on an already strained transit system and infrastructure.
I'd heard that the marathon wouldn't divert that many police officers and EMTs from relief efforts. But New Yorkers are arming themselves in the Rockaways to defend against looters. The whole area is in dire need of assistance. That obviously has priority over a big athletic event.
Do you think the couch potatoes are behind the cancellation?A profile of Mary Wittenberg, head of the Road Runners, which runs the marathon.http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/03/sports/marathon-starts-to-divide-not-u...
"Costs of Canceling Marathon Are Unknown but Immense"http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/04/sports/marathons-cancellation-sure-to-...
New Yorkers interested in helping with the relief efforts in storm damaged neighborhoods, here is the link to the NYC website: www.nycservice.org
Mr. Gibson, I'm with you (and the mayor) on this one. And for all the reasons you've shared on your own behalf.For whatever reason, your comments reminded me that the U.S. has been at war for more than a decade, thousands of American military personnel have been killed or wounded, and, yet, I'm not aware of any sense of shared sacrifice emanating from the shopping malls of America, etc., much less reflected in our news media. Life --- smiles or ho-hum --- goes on for the average citizen, if not for those families who've suffered the loss of loved ones in Iraq and Afghanistan. For the runners et al, life is not fair. A trainer told us years ago that when his kids would complain "That's not fair, Daddy!", he would respond (I assume) with great affection and sympathy, "Of course, kiddo, life is not fair. A fair is a fancy country picnic."
DIGRESSIONThis doesn't fit anywhere, but the Conciliaria blog has posted a slew of articles about what was actually going on at the beginning of Vatican II, especially about the liturgy. For those of you who don't remember the Cold War -- just how terribly cold it was! -- there's one about the bishops who were and were not allowed to attend the Council by their Communist governments. A couple of cardinals couldn't go because they were sitting the war out in embassies of other countries and to leave would have been to be arrested. Now those were some bishops!http://conciliaria.com/2012/11/49-bishops-at-council-from-communist-coun...
I was surprised when the mayor et al decided to go ahead with the marathon; I was surprised when they canceled it; just to say I don't have strong views on this. So I am curious given how this has fallen out: Who or how is anyone going to benefit from the cancellation?
While I understand cancelling the marathon, I'm a little taken aback by the complete lack of sympathy for the 40,000 + marathoners. Facebook has all of these snarky comments about how the runners should all go volunteer on Staten Island. I wonder if all of those people telling the marathoners to volunteer are themselves volunteering.I have zero interest in the marathon, except to avoid neighborhoods along the route. But I know other people care very deeply. One of my neighbors, who is a marathon runner, saw one of the Ethiopian women who is a front runner, training in Van Cortlandt Park after the hurricane. I'm sure this Ethiopian girl is more than a little disappointed now. And yes, some people in Staten Island have it much worse- incomparably worse. But I don't see why we still can't have a little sympathy left over for the runners.
Isn't the situaton in NY worse than the situation in New Orleans from Katrina?
Sympathy? Sure. I imagine it's disappointing. But it's not as though they visited Siberia for the weekend. They're in New York City--a fine destination even when significantly crippled. But marathoners and their supporters are the ones who should be showing sympathy. I don't care if they volunteer. But I do think the ones who are whining about how liberals are wimps (check Twitter) should shut up immediately and be grateful they aren't cold, hungry, and homeless.
@Mark: While more people are affected by Sandy, the overall conditions in NOLA after Katrina were FAR worse than those in New York or New Jersey, to say nothing of the death count -- almost 2000 people died as a result of Katrina. If you review what happened in Katrina and its aftermath, there is really no comparison.
Margaret Steinfels: A lot depends on how the mayor and his administration now proceed.Without the distraction of the marathon, I would assume that the mayor and his administration will have more undistracted time and perhaps also more resources to direct to Staten Island and other places that still cry out for attention.By the way, I thought the mayor made a terrible first decision. As a result, I admire him for changing his mind and making what I consider to be the correct decision -- the one he should have made to begin with.
The idea of income (100 million) for the city and the morale booster was not necessarily bad. It did not show disregard. Just a misplaced emphasis. If the hotels and other beneficiaries has offered 25 million or so for food and electrical workers, the running of the marathon might have worked. If generators were obtained by that money it might have made a different impact. It is a good case where if both sides showed some creativity everyone could have come out winning. This seems possible though I don't know how an solid analysis would estimate.
jbruns--I think I'm in agreement with you. But if Sandy was not as bad as Katrina, yet there are all these unmet needs in NY and NJ...I'm wondering if Sandy will not hit Obama the way Katrinia hit Bush.
ISTM that comparing New Orleans and Katrina and NYC and Sandy is like comparing apples and oranges. Sure there are lots of similarities. Both suffered catastrophic storms. But New Orleans was less well prepared because Dubya had refused to maintain the levees as needed, and the communications system was horrible to non-existent. Manhattan is mostly 33 feet above sea-level, which protected most of it against the surge, but other boroughs are far less elevated and each of their populations, I would guess, exceeds that of the whole of New Orleans (which was around 400,000 before Katrina). Most importantly, because we New Orleanians had had experience with terrible storms before (Betsy was another giant that went straight through the city) most of us realized that we needed to get out and we did. Only a relatively few thousand with no transportation or extremely hard heads stayed. Those are the ones you saw on TV in the Superdome and Convention Center. Yes, they were miserable, but no doubt so are the people in the boroughs that were hit so hard.So which was worse -- the over-crowded Superdome or the low-lying houses flooded in Queens with little food and no electricity or gas? I think I''d take the Superdome and its potable water. I'd say the long-term effects in New Orleans were worse -- I think there were something like 80,000 houses that were lost. But short-term I don't doubt for a second that there are more people in the outer boroughs of New York who are suffering a great deal more than there were in New Orleans in the week or two after Katrina. Yes, some of the NYC houses are being destroyed, but I wonder if it's as many. If it's as many or more, then the long-term damage in New York will be worse, and the people need our sympathy and help.You can hardly imagine these things unless you see them first hand. And it seems to me that Mayor Bloomberg, in spite of the marathon kerfufle, is doing extremely well in horrible circumstances.All of the big cities learned from New Orleans' experience with Katrina. Most now have adequate communications systems. which alone are great pluses. Now pray that we'll all learn from New York City, and that we will finally be wise enough to take whatever measures are necessary to lessen the effects of these monster storms and other disasters.
Ann--Perhaps you have not seen this:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/03/nyregion/in-public-housing-after-hurri... police are afraid to go out at night. One good thing coming out of it is a new appreciation on Staten Island for the 2nd Amendment.
Perhaps I should add that it seems that about a quarter of the population has not returned, and I don't imagine it will. Those are the people who could not afford to re-build. I don't know what the situation in the boroughs will be. Big unanswered questions: how many of the people whose houses were flooded will have to re-locate to other cities at least temporarily? Will they return? Who knows.Some people think that New Orleans will never be as large as it was in the 50s. Some think that the poor who had to re-locate might actually be better off living, for instance, in prosperous Atlanta. By the way, Houston welcomed our refugees, and people have been most generous in helping the city recover, both with time and money. Sort of renews your faith in human nature. So some good does come out of the awfulness.And I left out the best part: the City and State took the opportunity to rebuild the public school system from scratch -- and, miracle eor miracles, it seems to be working!!! So don't despair, East Coast. You'll get some good out of this. The Lord works in mysterious ways.
Mark Proska: You wouldn't by chance be a Republican who does not plan to vote for President Obama's re-election, would you?Yes, to be sure, there are still a lot of difficulties to be overcome in the aftermath of Sandy.However, unless something really extraordinary happens between now the the time when the voting stops on Tuesday evening, I do not expect to see Obama's re-election hopes hurt by his handling of the Sandy disaster. Thus far, he has handled the disaster well enough for most people to give him passing marks.
Thomas--I stand accused. Although I could agree with you, here's the problem I see with your formulation. When Obama made a campaign stop in NJ and NY, he set himself up as president, as in charge, as responsible. How can he now disclaim responsibility for the fiasco that's resulted?
Mark P. --Imagine trying to get anything done in an American city or just a neighborhood with no electricity, no water, no cell-phones, no passable streets except a few for walking, many detours, no food close by, not enough police, not enough medicine, few doctors, . . . . . . Sounds to me like New Yorkers are doing just fine in the circumstances.
"...no electricity, no water, no cell-phones, no passable streets except a few for walking, many detours, no food close by, not enough police, not enough medicine, few doctors, . . "Ann--Precisely my point. Didn't the president promise FEMA would respond within 15 minutes? Respond with what, exactly? Who's in charge here? Is he going to blame Bush for this too?
Mark, you sound as lacking in facts and as partisan as Rudy G did on Cnn. W Bush ignored the facts until it was too late. How you can compare a population New Orleans 350,000 with New york metro area of 19 million is something. With that comparison we are doing an overwhelmingly better job than with Katrina. There is just no argument. But you do want Romney to win. That Romney who has done more flip flops than any fish ever did.
Mark =For cryin' out loud, man, what do you think has happened in NYC? A UPS strike? Several transformers out of service???? Use your imagination! Parts of NYC are like the German cities that were bombed out in WW II or like Dresden. There is destruction all around of all sorts. Those parts of the city will need rebuilding from the bottom up -- in many places from zilch. They weren't built in five crummy days and they probably won't be completely rebuilt within five years, if then.And not only the city but the outlying areas have also been debilitated, making restoration of even basic services -- like supplying gasoline -- impossible in many cases.Wake up and see the real problems. (One of which is YOU.)
"How can he now disclaim responsibility for the fiasco thats resulted?"NOT a fiasco;the recovery in NYC is very impressive. FEMA and the armed forces have done a great job supporting the local efforts. It's only 5 days since the hurricance and ConEd has power almost fully restored here (Staten Island is the worst off, according to the outage map; they're at 85%). But I don't see the Rockaways on the map, are they served by LIPA?Mass transit is working, though there is more to do. Fuel deliveries have been streamlined and the President has tapped into the government reserves, so the gas crunch should ease.The City will take a while to rebuild, but a lot is being done, and being done well.
"Crime during Hurricane Sandy and its aftermath declined in New York City by 32 percent compared with the previous year, the police said on Saturday, but even the storms fury did not stop some from trying to take advantage of the confusion and chaos that followed."http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/10/28/nyregion/hurricane-sandy.h... we have less crime on average, not more, with the Hurricane
There's a lot of headlines about building sea-gates, etc., to prevent the kind of surge that low-lying parts of New York and New Jersey saw on Monday/Tuesday. But it appears that much of the suffering region-wide has to do with lack of electricity, hence lack of lights, in many cases heat, and sources of information. Lines are down. Maybe resources should be spent on burying electric cables.One reason Manhattan is reconnected is that lines are not overhead, they're underground. Hence repairs at single substations solve the problem of many building being without power. Elsewhere in NY, CT, and NJ, trees and other obstacles have to be removed so repair trucks and workers can get to the lines and rehang them.Another curiosity is the way in which electricity is delivered to particular locales. The Rockaways, part of NYC, gets its supply from Long Island Electric, which is a company that serves Nassau and Suffolk counties, and generally has a reputation for bad service. In contrast, most of NYC has ConEd. Battery Park City in lower Manhattan never lost its power because it's connected to a substation in Brooklyn rather than the substation that serves the rest of the area.It's not clear what the mayor or governor can do about the electricity problem except demand that the utilities (public service companies but independently owned) speed up repairs.
Beautiful sunny Sunday in NYC. Perfect weather for a marathon!
Bill--I hope you are right but I think you are wrong. Have you checked any non-liberal news sources? I could provide links, but you can just go to the Drudge report and you'll find a number of them.Ann--I know you didn't mean that.
As for Mark Proska's totally fair-minded political analysis, read this polling data:http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/11/obama-approval-superstorm-sand... for electricity: It's not simply a matter of buried lines. Lots of those networks were overwhelmed by the storm surge. Including the one served by the 14th St. substation, which exploded on Monday night. And then there are the houses destroyed by wind and fire. The homes blown apart, or bisected by boats, shredded by flying debris, or whose electrical boxes and boilers were swamped by the flood waters. Buried lines are not a panacea. They'd help, and I expect they'll be installed in areas that need rebuilding. But that won't be enough. We can build better sea walls, better barriers, better shock absorbers, better pumping systems, but there's no fool-proof defense against a storm like Sandy. We hadn't seen anything like it before. But we may see more like it in the future.
I liked the suggestion of the oyster beds and the one of the salt marsh buffer. I don't know how practical they are, but they sound really cool. Though I imagine oysters harvested from the Gowanus Canal might taste a little funky.
Grant--Thanks for the link, but isn't TPM generally considered to be left of center? Moreover, shouldn't we be more concerned about the people still suffering from Sandy than who may have gotten a boost in the polls from it?
I have to say the Occupy forces have done an amazing job, in my experience, and that of others, in delivering aid and organizing people:http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/11/occupy-leads-relief-in-powerless-re... this tragedy shows what they're really about, and what they're really good at. In crises like these, it is so much about distribution and delivery as much as generosity. There is often plenty of the latter. That said, the entire Sandy saga seems to undermine the GOP talking points about FEMA and all federal bureaucracies being a waste. What everyone is talking about is either how well FEMA and local entities have done (the NYT today has a profile of FEMA head Fugate, who has done a pretty admirable job of returning FEMA to good graces after the disaster of the Bush years) or the discussion is about how they could do better. Either way, it's about government having a role, not government not doing its job. For the GOP this is a problem in that they don't like government so when there are government functions to perform, they tend not to do them well. It's a conundrum. The other problem Sandy raises for Republicans is that it undermines the arguments about individual freedom trumping everything. William Saletan at Slate asks the obvious -- if the government can order you to evacuate for the benefit of others, why not the indivdual mandate? http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2012/10/hurri... the funniest conservative effort to critique the government over Sandy, the always hilarious Walter Russell Meade says Sandy shows the problem with the "nanny state" because Bloomberg focused on banning Big Gulps rather than building berms and sea walls:http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2012/10/31/hurricane-sandy-an... that building sea walls is the city's job, but WRM is stuck arguing against the nanny state while arguing for a bigger nanny state -- one that would do big things that Republicans hate doing. Yeah, he's stuck.
Grant (10:43am) -- Agreed: "We hadnt seen anything like it before. But we may see more like it in the future." Looking ahead also requires more than planning on how to meet Sandy better the next time. Each big hurricane with which I have been intimately acquainted has had unique features, meaning that, even if you had learned and implemented all the lessons of the past ones, Nature would offer a few surprises. A couple of observations, not meant to be predictive but to suggest considerations in looking ahead past Sandy:This weekend, temperatures around NY in the 30's add a new dimension of hazard for residents, responders, and recovery work, especially with limited availability of electricity and fuels continuing for days. The Tropical Hurricane season is arbitrarily said to end November 30. That's not a natural law and, historically, outliers have been observed. The implications of tropical storms arriving when it's cold out (e.g., 35F) need full attention. (If the air temperature were to get down to around 28F, even the sea water spray widely observed can begin to freeze.) Sandy made landfall on Monday night near Atlantic City, about 130 miles south of NYC. It was moving away from the NYC area at the time and continued to do so. While NYC area and the Sound were already on the "bad side" of the storm for wind and surge exposure, a small shift in earlier track direction might have substantially increased the impact there or, alternatively, around Philadelphia or Baltimore-Washington areas. Sandy needs to be clearly recognized as one example, not the model of what may be coming.
"With Big Event Canceled, Marathoners Hold Race of Their Own" and in a good spirit.http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/05/sports/marathoners-hold-race-of-their-...
Dumb me: I thought Christie, Bloomberg, Cuomo and Obama could simply wave their magic wands in sync and --- ta da! --- everything would be back to normal. Just goes to show you that Big Gummint cain't do nuthin' nohow nowhere.However, such things as not letting non-union electricians from Alabama help out in Ny (or maybe it was NJ) because they are non-union does tend to slow things down just a wee bit.
That is adorable, Proska. You want us to pretend that you weren't politicizing this from the start. The polls I linked to are bipartisan. So you are out to lunch. As usual. Stop pronouncing on the state of New York. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Mark --Yes, I did mean it. You need to take a much closer look and recognize the amazing job all sorts of people are doing and give them some support, not sarcasm. And i'm going to add something: remember the "tree-huggers" who warned 40 years ago about ending up "freezing in the dark"? Well take a look. Sadly, they were right. And there is likely to be more of it. The U.S. has extremely long coasts, and a huge proportion of the population lives all along them. So wise up. Now is the time to give up your Karl Rove/conservative myths and listen to what the scientists are saying. And, no doubt about it, it will cost PLENTY.
GrantFirst, if you recheck the link, youll see it is not to bipartisan polls, but to a talking points memo authored by a gentleman who went to NYU who interned at the New Yorker. I would hardly consider his analysis bipartisan.Second, are you actually demanding that I post no further comments on the city of New York? Seriously?Third, I understand that nerves can be on a knifes edge with the election so close. If it makes you feel any better, at this time I see Obama as a clear favorite to win re-election. Thats not based on any inside information, except maybe for Pennsylvania, but given that I dont know what the hell Im talking about, perhaps tist provides little comfort to you.
You politicized the storm. That disgusts me.
AnnI am sorry to hear that you did mean it, that is not like you. As it goes without saying that the sacrifice of our first-responders is laudable, I saw no need to say it.Now, as for the state of New York city, and the surrounding area, have you seen this?http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/02/FEMA-Still-Doesn-t-Ha... this?http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2227307/Hurricane-Sandy-Misery-2... more.
An interesting summary of part of what is going on in the NY/NJ area is in the US Defense Department status report of its contributions to the FEMA response as of noon Nov 4. http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=118439
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During the month of February, Toledo Harley-Davidson and Signature Harley-Davidson are revving up funds for a good cause, the Sickle Cell Project of Northwest Ohio.
For every new motorcycle purchased, the locations will donate $50 to the project, which offers counseling and resources to those with sickle cell disease or trait.
Harley-Davidson and the project have worked together in the past on events like charity rides.
"There are lots of different ways to let your customers know when you're a business that you care about their situation," said Tim Sherman, dealer for Toledo Harley-Davidson and Signature Harley-Davidson. Harley-Davidson also recently launched the Iron Elite, celebrating the influence of African-American riders on motorcycle culture. Learn more at www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Content/Pages/iron-elite/iron-elite.html.
Toledo Harley-Davidson and Signature Harley-Davidson's community outreach program has raised $500,000 since 1999. Last year, the stores made $1,000 for the Greater Toledo Urban League during the Black History Month promotion.
The project, a special effort of the Neighborhood Health Association, is funded with a $50,000 grant from the Ohio Department of Health. Five other similar groups are funded throughout the state with Northwest Ohio's being the smallest and receiving the least funding.
That grant has to fund "my salary, every copy that I make, every piece of mail, phone, Internet, education materials, any travel, mileage, things like that. I'm pretty much my own business here. That grant money has to pay for everything. So that's why it's really great when Harley-Davidson offers to do something like this. Every little bit helps," said Kortney Weber, project director.
Sickle cell trait primarily affects African-American people, followed by Hispanic people, Weber said. However, anyone can get it.
"Genetics are colorblind," Weber said. Studies show that people with an ancestor in a part of the world where malaria is common are more likely to have the gene. Sickle cell trait was thought to build immunity to the disease, but when both parents had the trait, their child suffered from sickle cell disease.
About 100,000 people in the U.S. have sickle cell disease, which means they inherited two sickle cell hemoglobin genes from their parents. This means they can suffer from pain, major organ failure and extreme anemia. Average life expectancy is 45-55. Weber sees up to 10 people with the disease per year.
Weber educates schools about sickle cell disease because children who have it can suffer from exhaustion, making gym class difficult, and they have to go to the bathroom more frequently. However, "they need to be allowed to participate so they don't feel like they're being punished," she said.
Those who have sickle cell trait inherited one gene from their parents. One in 10 African-Americans have the trait. Those with the trait don't usually suffer from the disease symptoms, but do require genetic counseling, Weber said.
"People make different decisions when they have all the information. People who know [they have the trait] ahead of time do decide [having a baby] is worth the risk," Weber said, adding that others opt to adopt. Weber sees about up to 30 people with the trait per month.
In 1990, Ohio law mandated that newborns be tested for sickle cell trait at birth. However, "I still find people born after 1990 who fell through the cracks," Weber said. If a baby has the trait, follow-up testing is needed.
The Sickle Cell Project of Northwest Ohio is based out of the Cordelia Martin Health Center, 430 Nebraska Ave., Toledo, and serves Lucas, Wood, Erie, Seneca, Sandusky, Ottawa, Williams, Huron, Defiance, Fulton and Henry counties. To learn more, call (419) 255-7883.
Toledo Harley-Davidson is at 7960 W. Central Ave., Toledo, and Signature Harley-Davidson is at 1176 Professional Dr., Perrysburg. Store hours are 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. Tuesday through Saturday and 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. Sunday.
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Price-wise, blowing he competition away, including iCloud...not maybe. We need to see how well it syncs and they need to expand the breadth of their offerings but I'm intrigued.
Google announces Google Drive, gives 5GB of free cloud storage to all users
Google Drive is big, cheap, and aims to compete with the likes of Dropbox, SkyDrive, and maybe even iCloud
Rumor it and it shall become real -- Google Drive, the long awaited, long anticipated cloud storage service from Google is finally here and it's as big and as cheap as we hoped for. Every Google user gets 5GB for free, and you can buy literally tons more -- up to 16TB (?!) if you have the cash.
Today, we're introducing Google Drive—a place where you can create, share, collaborate, and keep all of your stuff. Whether you're working with a friend on a joint research project, planning a wedding with your fiancé or tracking a budget with roommates, you can do it in Drive. You can upload and access all of your files, including videos, photos, Google Docs, PDFs and beyond.
The focus is on sharing, storing, and searching. Everything. Google Docs is built in so you can start creating stuff. You can install the desktop client on Windows or Mac to get a folder going.
You can get started with 5GB of storage for free—that's enough to store the high-res photos of your trip to the Mt. Everest, scanned copies of your grandparents' love letters or a career's worth of business proposals, and still have space for the novel you're working on. You can choose to upgrade to 25GB for $2.49/month, 100GB for $4.99/month or even 1TB for $49.99/month. When you upgrade to a paid account, your Gmail account storage will also expand to 25GB.
Google has updated their Android Google Docs app, turning it into an official Google Drive app. They're also "working hard" on an iPhone or iPad version but for now, if you want to access Google Drive, the web is your friend. You can find things by keyword and filter, and Drive will even OCR scanned docs to make your life easier. There's even beta image recognition baked in.
Check out more via the links below, and the watch the video for the overview.
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Google announces Google Drive, gives 5GB of free cloud storage to all users
I'm certainly interested. The comparisons to iCloud are, punlessly, apples and oranges, imho.
It's tough to compare a service (iCloud) that allows me, in theory, to backup and restore my iOS devices from the Cloud, but nothing else (I'm not a Mac user), to a service (Drive) that allows me to save everything else to the Cloud, but not to back up my iOS devices.
Like you say, it'll be worth seeing how they expand the services, but so far, I'm underwhelmed by almost all the currently available offerings. Dropbox is the most integrated, but it also offers the smallest amount of free storage.
P/S 16TB????? Good grief.
Why choose? I'm using iCloud and Dropbox now for different things. I'm adding Google Drive to the mix.
More is more.
Free is free and the more the merrier! I already spread between iCloud, Dropbox, sugar sync, and box.net. Add google to the mix and I'm rocking 25 gb of free storage!
In theory I get that, having options is great.
Having insane fragmentation like this however is not.
We use iCloud for a and b, Dropbox for c, google drive for d and e and Box for F...
What should be possible is to use one or two, and leave the rest for backups. Otherwise we just have tons of different things spread everywhere and the whole point of things like iCloud is to provide a one solution option.
Does that make sense?
Ideally though, you'd pick the one that corresponds with your chosen ecosystem. Or one that's most universal, offers the best value, etc.
Of all of these though, icloud is the one that is walled, has limited function but perhaps the most essential to its respective ecosystem.
I have a google account, so therefore, this is easy to pick up. I have iOS devices, so icloud is a must. I use logmein which Cubby is part of. Dropbox is integrated into many iOS apps i use. Box.net was enhanced when i used a Touchpad briefly. And finally, i consider Flickr cloud storage for pics as well in which i do pay.
Still, if i'm going to PAY to enhance any one of these, it has to be a universal one. That leaves out icloud. Right now, the free space is more than enough though so i don't feel compelled to pay for one yet. Each have their strengths. Each are simple enough to use.
i really only use these services for backup rather then in lieu of local storage. I also find icloud a bit confusing so use it only for saving settings and but not backup or music (never bought music off itunes).
I know people love dropbox but i use sugarsync and skydrive. Skydrive is great cause it's i've got 25 gbs of free storage. And though i put my docs in there too, why not i got 25 gbs, i chose skydrive because 25 gbs means I can upload and backup photos immediately without being scared of running out of space. I was right at 4GBs uploading all my archived photos currently which didn't leave a ton of room for the future. So skydrive is nice simply for the space. Sugarsync just cause it gave more default then dropbox. Plus i also missed the free 50GBs from box.net. I also don't want anything syncing to folders. I don't want to have to keep a local file. i used them these to fee up space so having to keep it locally too is not a positive. So that feature is less of a big deal. As for Gdrive i have stuff in google docs but use it sparingly so i'll be interested to see how this goes.
This bloghas so much bias it's no wonder that rarely people comment on the posts. "They're also "working hard" on iOS version of the app" as if it's to imply that they aren't going to support iOS or that they are delaying iOS. I don't see iCloud support for android (or any other os) and it's been like 6 months since the 4S release? Get real guys look at both sides of the coin. At least google is offering an alternative for all parties and not just android. This is an iPhone blog but it is also apart of the mobile nations and these posts should be written without bias, otherwise there's no point of the mobile nations. I have an iPhone and I love it but I can appreciate what other parties have to offer.
I'm all for calling folks out on their b.s. (politely, when possible) but if this is the offending sentence...
"They're also "working hard" on an iPhone or iPad version but for now, if you want to access Google Drive, the web is your friend."
... I've got to disagree with you. The closest thing to "imply[ing] that they aren't going to support iOS or that they are delaying iOS" is the quotation marks. If those are simply, literally quoting Google's own words on the subject, that's ok. After all, how hard Google is or isn't working on a particular feature is for them to say, not an unbiased website. So, maybe it's better for that website to quote the source. No?
It's quoted because that's what Google said - that they're working hard on the iOS version.
There may be bias, but it's clearly in your comment, not our post.
Oh. Snap.
This is terrible! I am so upset that I did not update my storage before they made it 6 times more expensive! It was on $5 for 2gb a YEAR. Now it is $2.5 per MONTH or $30 a YEAR. I just want Picasa space. Wish I know this was coming so I could have upgraded before they ruined the price structure. I will be looking for another place to put my photos.
Well, there is this 7 year old technique to turn a gmail account into a file system -- but I have no idea if it still works.
Twice as much. Google just bumped Gmail to 10GB.
Lot of tech sites state Google is going after Dropbox. I do no know. Everyone has their "cloud" service. Depends on your device, and operating system what you use. Dropbox was looked at hard by Google, and Apple. If Google Drive keeps this pricing up, will Dropbox change to compete better? Some say it is just an upgrade of Google Docs, and looks to be geared toward enterprise. The music side may be lacking for now. For you business folks out there, is $799.99 a month for 16TB fair, and would it cover your needs?
Oh, I forgot on thing. You better read Googles security/service compared to others. Basically, they own your content, and can change it to suite their needs to give you a better user experience. In other words they have a license to anything you add to drive. I am sorry I do not have the link, but compared to other cloud services, this is pretty aggressive.
i haven't read google's but dropbox did that last year. i think around june. they eventually reversed it but they sent out an update to their terms of service stating that by agreeing to upload the service you granted them a license to use anything you uploaded for any reason. I freaked. Cause i have some articles, part of a book, uploaded their. I immediately removed everything i had and stopped using it. Eventually, a few days later they updated their TOS, and removed that language saying they didn't mean to claim they owned a copyright in anything that was uploaded. But by that time i had switched. As for what google's services wants i don't know. I do think it would be hard to enforce. Like if Speilberg uploads a spec script to google docs, and google decides to publish it as a book claiming they have the right because it was uploaded? Even if you clicked agree in a form i think i couldn't see a court ruling that google now as a valid right in such a work.
"Except for material we may license to you, Apple does not claim ownership of the materials and/or Content you submit or make available on the Service. However, by submitting or posting such Content on areas of the Service that are accessible by the public or other users with whom you consent to share such Content, you grant Apple a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive license to use, distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content on the Service solely for the purpose for which such Content was submitted or made available, without any compensation or obligation to you."
Is Google going to be reading the files I store on Google Drive?
Updated Under the heading, Your Content in our Services in Google's terms of service, Google states, "You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours."
That means that Google can't use your content for commercial purposes without your consent. However, the TOS also states that, "you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content. The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones."
For content that is yours, Google can't re-use it for its own purposes. But it can use content you upload in order to serve you. This can include integrating services together (like reading your scanned pictures in order to OCR them), and it can include analyzing your files to target advertisements to you. Google already does this in GMail. Google doesn't currently serve ads in Google Docs (now called Google Drive), but it may, according to its license agreement, use data about the content you upload to target ads to you anywhere on the service.
Google may also give up your data in response to a legal demand, like a subpoena. If you want your cloud storage to be a little more out of touch, you might be interested in Wuala, which has no storage servers in the United States. Or you might just want to keep your data off the Internet.
Incidentally, the verge has a good early comparison between the feature sets of Google Drive, Dropbox, Box, SugarSync, and others.
I'm still testing Google Drive. It seems to be getting slower and slower with the current upload that I'm performing. I wonder if it is because lots of people are trying it out?
Also, with the Windows application, I wonder, if I'm not logged in, will it still upload? Hmm, interesting...
If Intelius now expects us to pay for a service that maintains our information, what makes you think they'll be motivated to opt us out for free, no strings attached?
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Ok I'm anxious to see how Google Drive works out, specially how it syncs. I already have 15 gb of Dropbox + Icloud. Here's the thing though, with my Iphone 4s I take a ton of photos and obviously the 5 gb free that comes with iCloud is not enough to back it all up. I'm curious to know how everyone handles backing up their pictures from iOs devices. Do you just buy more storage for iCould? with all that free storage out there, I want that to be my last option :-)
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Actually, thank you, llaffer. I ended up finding a real copy of the game that was way cheaper than expected. I only pirated them in the first place because I thought they would be overpriced with their age. I've gone and bought the game now and apologize for the violation.
Hey guys, so I have Dios Mios v2.6 running on my Wii.
It plays Wii games perfectly fine, and GC games fine with disc. However my Wiis disc drive is burnt out...
Sooo what happens when I launch the GC games from either of GX or CFG, is that the Dios Mios logo will show up, but will not boot past that.
The first time I tried playing a GC game, after correctly formatting my harddrive and arranging the game isos in the proper folders etc, it showed the dios mios logo and i waited a bit, then I remembered reading online the discs being in helping.. so as soon as the disc (GC disc, Melee) touched my Wiis disc slot, F-Zero GX booted up past the dios mios logo and I was able to play it fine [Sidenote: When I press the power off button, it freezes completely, and I can only power down the Wii by holding the power button down for 3 seconds,not sure if this is an issue or is par for the course.. Also sometimes it will power down my Wii completely whenI try to launch a GC game.]. Now though, when i enter the disc, it will have trouble reading it (on account of my drive being completely fried/scratched/whatever it is) so sometimes it takes a while to proceed past the logo, other times ill keep reinserting the disc hoping it will eventually work..
Obviously that is time consuming and slightly frustrating, but I cant seem to find any indication of how I would boot up the games without the disc inside needing to be read (what what Ive seen online, F-Zero GX works fine with no disc) sidenote: I also have Baten Kaitos 1 and Origins, Tales of Symphonia and Fire Emblem Path of Radiance.
If I turn on the No Disc + option it shows a message saying this only works in 2.2 or something of that sort, so the option will be ignored.. then the dios mios screen will load, and not proceed further.
Im looking for some way to circumvent the CD being required...
Will it work with Dios Mios 2.2? Where canI find 2.2 (the official page only has dls for the latest version, 2.6)
Installing any other version of Dios Mios, or any other Mios in general will simply overwrite the existing one right?
Also I have another Wii, which is not softmodded, (This one is my cousins, but has a broken power button, and the ac adaptor plug in the back is broken as well somehow) but it has a disc drive that is not burnt, I could swap the 2, but I would need pointer, and Im scared that my Wii will also burn that one (I actually got my drive replaced once, but it burnt through that in about a year, it slowly slowly started to lose functionality, first with a few specific games in certain areas, then all the time, then errors as soon as you try to put the disc in the Wii, to no functionality at all (besides recognizing the GC game the first few times I placedit in the Wii.. The drive issues actually started, about a year after I got my wii hardmodded with a mod-chip (biggest mistake ever in hindsight)..
Any guidance would be appreciated, I just want to be able to play my games :P. Thanks guys.
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Usaamah G,
Yes, try DIOS MIOS v2.2 update 2 and older versions of USB Loaders like CFG Loader r48, GX r1198, and DM Booter because all the latest DM 2.3+ and latest USB Loaders verify the disc drive for the NODISC patching to work, with DM 2.2 update 2 you could put NODISC to ON and it will not verify the disc drive so it will work with the broken disc drive. Just Google Dios Mios 2.2, make sure you have priiloader install before you install any wad.
GX r1198, Added DML 2.2+ new NoDisc support. r1198:R1198_IOS222-249-250.7z
Yes, installing any other version of Dios Mios will overwrite the existing one.
Spoiler2.3 (2012-09-24)
- Fixed creating NMM save file folders in FST mode
- Fixed CardFindEntryByName which incorrectly compared file names
- Added a hack for Phantasy Star Online 1&2 version 1.0
- GCLoader improvements that include warning the user if an incorrect CONFIG_VERSION is used
- Hardcoded the only worthy DVDGetDriveStatus patching, so once again the NODISC cfg doesn't do anything
2.2 (2012-07-20)
- Added a new DVDLowRead pattern (fixes Luigi's Mansion USA and maybe other games)
- Made the DVDGetDriveStatus patch optional via a config (DML_CFG_NODISC) since it broke some games (fixes Prince of Persia:Sands of Time, Goblin Commander, King Kong, ...)
- Added code to prevent drives going into sleep mode
- Fixed a bug which ignored the DML_CFG_PADHOOK setting and always patched PADHOOK (fixes PSO1&2)
Replacing your Wii's Internal Parts!
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Are there any settings in USB Loader GX that allow/prohibit the Dios Mios reset/power off button combo commands?
Reset/Power off button commands not working
I am running Dios Mios 2.6 and USB Loader GX r1201
All works great except for the reset/power off button combos when in gamecube games. Nothing happens when I use them.
Any ideas?
Use the edit button please.
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Turn on PADHOOK, and don't double post...use the edit button next time.
Huh, double post hasn't been edited out by any mod. That just shows this thread hasn't been visited at all.
Oh, I forgot you are staff and so you can edit those now.
Hey, thanks for the reply.
I installed 2.2, not sure if it was update 2 or not: this is where I dl'd DM from (OUTSIDE LINK REMOVED)
It seems to require disc, the popup saying that no disc + setting only works in 2.2, and will be ignored still came up...
The wad installation seemed to work fine, Ill try installing again, and I guess at this point it must be the loader version causing issues as well, I tried only replacing DM 2.6
So for replacing the loader version, do I simply replace the boot.dol file in my sd card/apps folder for the appropriate loader? Ill try that out soon, let you know how it goes. Thanks again
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Any particular reason you didn't get Dios Mios from the link(s) in post 1 of this guide?Originally Posted by Usaamah G.


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lol I see all this hubris about how having fun just for the sake of having fun is above and beyond doing things to get gear. However, I'm forced to ask myself, how does attaining gear limit the individuals with this seemingly misplaced hubris from having fun in games where getting gear is a potential reward? It seems like a load of BS if you ask me.
If it's about having fun to have fun, then shoudln't attaining the gear be completely beneath you? Yet most find the energy and time to complain about "needing" to obtain the gear. Well, what about "needing" to repeat content just for the sake of having fun? Can't you still do that in games with gear treadmills? Again, seems like a load of BS.
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I'd rather it simply is fun and something I look forward to doing again because it was a fun challenge instead of doing it because the game forces me to do it as it is the most optimal way of progressing.
I have a job thank you, I don't need to come home for more.
I don't fucking get the thing with these boards and the constant need to find something to complain about in GW2. Are you playing the devils advocate here? Because that would make sense.
So what's the point of you complaining about a feature you like not making it into the game? You obviously dislike Anets design philosophy, that should be enough for you to look the other way and go play something else.
Originally posted by Sideras
Isn't the game still forcing you to do it as a means to have fun in the game? Sure, you don't have the "forced progression". But you still have the forced repetition in order to maintain some level of enjoyment in the game.
All you did was take out the carrot, but you still have the treadmill... Can you honestly pretend like that's better?
I never got rewarded for finding Princess Peach, but it sure was nicer than being told she was in another castle.
My guess is repetition is up to the player.
I know I don't plan to see any instance more than twice if I can help it after token grinding in WoW to the point where I miss random drops from epic monsters in EQ1.
a yo ho ho
Originally posted by 3-4thElf
lol wow cool comparison there. What about Contra and the awesome weapons you would get by getting further into the game. What about how much easier levels were when you had said weapon upgrades and you hadn't died in a few levels.
Out of place comparisons make for a strong arguement.....
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Originally posted by helthros
But it is still a carrot for some people.
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You still get great gear from Dungeons in GW2, but they aren't the only places to get gear of the same quality. The "skins" will differentiate them from other similar gear, but for people who like to run instances, it also provides a clear way of obtaining top notch gear. Also, Arenanet has said that Dungeon gear may offer some stat distributions not found on other gear, though the over all power level will be the same as similar quality gear obtained from Karma Vendors, crafting, personal story, etc...
What is different about GW2 is that once you do obtain the best level 80 stat gear, there will be no stat inflation beyond that point for level 80 gear. Once you have ontained all the max stat gear you need for various builds, the incentives to doing further Dungeons will be fun, a sense of achievment and new armor/weapon skins.
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Originally posted by helthros
You know I never cared for the upgrades in Contra. I liked the rapid fire version of the main gun but I found the game was actually easier by learning how to dodge things and taking advantage of the level design than relying on gear alone.
You'd think MMORPG devs would learn something from that.
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for the experiance lol im guessing you don't play games unless you are feeling like you are the best ? in an mmo id like to feel i can go back and do things and they will have changed, and along with it play with my friends, i don't care much for grinding the same dungeon over and over and over and over, for a week, stacking up so many hours and most probably years off my life, just so i can be that tiny bit better than everyone. the whole world should be a challenge :)
Originally posted by 3-4thElf
Meh. Moral of the post - That Mario comparison was a whole load of bs.
Originally posted by helthros
I'm starting to think you never made it to 8-3.
a yo ho ho
Originally posted by Tayah
Though the gear grind was fun for a while (got old real quick) in WOW, it did feel like a second job and I was always behind the curve anytime I was away from WOW for 1-2 weeks. With GW2, that won't be the case, I can log on for 1-2 hrs after a long day at work and just enjoy (not grinding for gear) the game with my friends. Being able to log in and out at the individual's pace I think will be something which will win many thousands (if not millions) of players; just my two cents.
Originally posted by helthros
I believe you are mistaken in believing that it has to be one or the other; either there's no gear progression (just for fun) or you're just grinding for gear (never ending treadmill). In the case of GW2, I believe there are trying to find a happy middle between the two (prob more on the side of not grinding for gear).
People enjoy different aspects of games. Some enjoy spending hours without end grinding for gear while others, not caring much for (or not having the time for) "gear grinding" are looking more to spend one to two hours with their friends simply having fun running around in an mmo killing stuff (or other players in wvw) or accomplishing quests/hearts/goals. In short, hard-core players vs casual players.
By a large margin, the vast majority of mmo players are not hard-core players (though they be the most vocal) but the casual players. Not only is gear grinding not a philosophy espoused by Anet, but I believe they purposefully were/are trying to create a game where most people (both hard-core and casuals) can play together while both having fun. Obviously Anet has to make a profit so appealing to the elite few (hard-core gamers) is not economically wise.
Just because people say they want to have fun for the sake of having fun does not mean they do not care about gear stats, it just means they prob don't care to spend tons of hours repeating the same dungeon looking for the 0.5% elite drop. For those that do care about gear stats, I believe they can still have plenty of fun in GW2; they'll just have to get used to not constantly be having to run on the treadmill... who knows, maybe they'll like it! :-)
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Originally posted by helthros
I don't understand what you're saying. It seems to me you're twisting things to have it your way.
For most MMOs, gear is important in order to progress (i.e. enter the next tier dungeon). I am the type of gamer who wants to see and explore places. During WoW TBC I wanted to see all endgame raids, but I can't go straight to Black Temple without gearing up for it first. If I happen to find a group of people who are already geared for it, or are already in T6 and are willing to run it just for that legendary blade, then lucky me. If not, I would have to repeatedly run Tempest Keep so I can complete T5, or something close to that to qualify me for BT. In my case, GEAR was never my source of fun. It was exploration, but in most endgame cases, this is hindered by GEAR. I had no choice but to join in on the threadmill until I finally said to myself "I'm tired of this, goodbye."
Guild Wars 2 works well for me because not only I need a smaller number of people to group with, we also don't have to wait for a tank or a healer. I just gather 4 friends and we're good to go. Nothing else hinders my desire for exploration, certainly not GEAR. It's true that in this essence, I still am chasing a "carrot". My carrot is exploration. As long as there are places to go and I have friends whom I can venture those places with, I will play. If I feel satisfied running a particular dungeon, I can move on to the next. I am not forced to play a dungeon any more than I am willing to. I can move on when I want to.
Also GW2 isn't forcing players to "do dungeons" as a means to have fun in the game. People who have grown accustomed to gear threadmill will surely have a hard time figuring GW2 out. These people need to understand that not ALL MMOs have to feed people with gear in order for them to enjoy. There simply are people who are tired of that. You DON'T have to do dungeons if running dungeons isn't a source of fun for you.
A "carrot" always exists in every game. It's the thing each player strive for. In MMOs, this is most usually gear, and best gears are usually obtained through PVE raids and PVP. GW2 removed the gear "carrot" by making gear stats almost insignificant. Now only people who are not really looking for powerup dresses will really enjoy this game.
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Whats the point of me playing Skyrim as a stealth character trying to go through dungeons without ever being spotted and getting all stealth kills? Doesnt change what loot I get and I can easily get skill ups else where. The point, is its fun. The moment you're doing something for gear but you're not having fun, then honestly you've lost sight on the point of the game.
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To any that argue that ANET is breaking the mold for the sake of fun I believe is a straight misfire of the truth. ANET decided for a game based upon micro payments over the gear grind subscription model is all and in the end for this type of game to work as a business it has to generate cash. Unless I am not seeing something it seems the game will still have a type of grind just a horse of a different color.
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Originally posted by Kendane
as the saying goes " if it aint fun don't do it"
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Originally posted by heartless
One might argue real life accomplishments don't mean anything either.
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Originally posted by Sojhin
You definitely aren't seeing something
First off: The game is B2P, so their primary generation of cash is through box sales. This makes microtransactions less of a must as they are in F2P games, but still of secondary importance. Thus the cash shop is filled with nothing but vanity stuff, account services, and some convenience things for ingame that don't influence the game in any large way. What's better, is that a player doesn't ever have to spend a dime on these items, because they will just buy gems with gold off of other players if they want to.
Secondly: The only grinds in this game are optional, and that is what a lot of people are missing. In other games to stay in the loop you have to grind for stats. In this game its purely cosmetic so you don't fall behind, if you want to chase the carrot it is definitely there, but there is no forced carrot chase in this game like in others. That is the major difference, chase the cosmetic gear carrot if you like grinding for hard items, yet if you don't care for grinding then you are at no disadvantage to simply not do it. That is definitely breaking the mold.
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it feels as though a lot of people are going to be entering the world of GW2 and playing the game with the wrong mindset :( This is quite disappointing and I pity those who won't be able to enjoy this game properly with the numerous things it has to offer.


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