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ASHEVILLE, N.C. --- The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga women's basketball team ran its win streak to 24 games, downing Elon 77-44 in the Southern Conference Tournament semifinal round to advance to its 15th league tournament final. UTC will take on Davidson for the second straight year.
Chattanooga led wire-to-wire in the matchup, getting out to an 8-0 advantage to start the game, and grew the lead to 19-6 with scoring from six different players. Elon's Kelsey Harris and Jennifer Rhodes combined for six quick points, however, to pull the Phoenix to within seven at 19-12 with 8:51 remaining in the half.
Chattanooga responded with a 13-2 run, capped off by a pair of free throws from Ashlen Dewart (Spartanburg, S.C.) to give UTC a 32-14 lead, its largest of the opening stanza, with 1:59 remaining. The two teams traded points before Elon's Zora Stephenson drained a long 3-pointer to make it a 36-21 halftime lead for the Lady Mocs.
The second half started with UTC going on a 14-3 run with Dewart scoring seven of her 14 points to expand its lead to 50-24 at the 14:28 mark. After a pair of free throws from Elon, Chattanooga went on a 12-2 run capped off by a layup from sophomore Tatianna Jackson (Atlanta, Ga.) and assisted by Dewart on an inbounds play to give Chattanooga its largest lead of the game for the second time at 62-28.
Elon scored the next 10 points to get to within 25, 62-37, but that's the closest it would be as Chattanooga outscored Elon 15-7 down the stretch for the final 33-point margin.
Senior Taylor Hall (New Tazewell, Tenn.) recorded her 13th double-double of the year with 18 points and 11 rebounds, adding four assists and two steals. Dewart was the only other UTC player in double figures with 14 points to go along with seven boards and three assists. Freshman Jasmine Joyner, in 11 minutes on the court, had nine points, seven rebounds and two blocked shots, moving her into lone possession of sixth place on UTC's all-time chart for blocked shots with 49.
Kelsey Harris was Elon's lone player in double figures with 10 points. She had six rebounds and a game-high four steals. Freshmen Jennifer Rhodes and Lauren Brown each added eight points and three rebounds with Brown adding four assists.
The win was the Lady Mocs' 24th straight on the year, tied for third best in school history. Chattanooga advances to its 15th Southern Conference Tournament final. No. 3 seed Davidson defeated No. 7 seed Western Carolina 74-67 to advance to the finals for the second straight year.
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Dean Ringold Shares Insights on Women MBAs
Over the past ten years the number of women applying to MBA programs has risen to record levels. This adds to greater diversity of thought in the classroom and, post-MBA, in the workplace.
Last week Dean and JELD-WEN Professor of Free Enterprise, Debra Ringold, was interviewed by US News and World Report on how female MBAs make an impact in the classroom and beyond:
"I think most MBA programs, at least the highly competitive AACSB-accredited programs, are meritocracies. They are interested in talent and commitment. The women that I have known over the course of my career, the women we admit here at Willamette, are certainly up to the task. They hold their own and they excel."
Read Dean Ringold's complete interview on US News and World Report's University Directory.

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Army National Guard Pvt. Colbie Griffith has graduated from basic combat training at Fort Jackson, Columbia, S.C.
During the nine weeks of training, the soldier studied the Army mission, history, tradition and core values, physical fitness, and received instruction and practice in basic combat skills, military weapons, chemical warfare and bayonet training, drill and ceremony, marching, rifle marksmanship, armed and unarmed combat, map reading, field tactics, military courtesy, military justice system, basic first aid, foot marches, and field training exercises.
Griffith is the former ward of Scot Caudill of Wheelersburg.
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Goyte brings 'Somebody I Used to Know' to Detroit, Columbus, ClevelandWritten by John Benson | | firstname.lastname@example.com
Ironically, when listening to "Somebody That I Used To Know," the massive summer hit from Australian musician Goyte (pronounced go-te-yay), the overwhelming feeling is you are hearing somebody that you used to listen to.
It's hard not to think the ubiquitous synth-based track just might be the greatest Sting song ever.
"I think it's a compliment because he's a fantastic artist and an incredible songwriter, but I'm not sure I necessarily hear it," said Wouter "Wally" De Backer (aka Gotye). "Because I sing in a high tenor and in that range, that's probably a reason why. It's a passing comparison, but it's definitely flattering."
Goyte, with Chairlift and Zammuto, will play at 7:30 p.m. Sept. 16 at Lakewood Civic Auditorium, 14100 Franklin Blvd., near Cleveland, and at 7 p.m. Sept. 18 at Fox Theatre, 2211 Woodward Ave., Detroit.
During the past year, there has been plenty of praise thrown De Backer's way. Born in Belgium and raised in Australia, the 32-year-old artist released his third studio effort "Making Mirrors" in 2011. While basically unknown in America, the multi-instrumentalist found fame in his homeland with his 2006 album "Like Drawing Blood."
It was recently voted the 11th greatest Australian album of all time by Triple J. That sounds like it should mean something stateside until you realize the CD's placement on the list is between Regurgitator's "Unit" and Grinspoon's "Guide to Better Living." Who? Exactly.
Still, "Like Drawing Blood" earned a cult following with actress Drew Barrymore using its single "Learnalilgivinanlovin" in several of her films.
As for "Making Mirrors," De Backer said he set the bar high to create unique soundscapes with a modern approach. He used everything from a vintage organ bought for $100 in a secondhand shop to horn breaks in a traditional Taiwanese folk song. Overall, the record delves into dub, Motown, stadium-size politipop, synth-folk and world music.
This leads us to his global No. 1 hit "Somebody That I Used To Know," which features New Zealand singer Kimbra. Adding to the allure of the mesmeric track is its stopframe, body-painting video.
"I had a strong feeling about that song as it was coming together," De Backer said. "I felt there was something unique about it. If you get a feeling when you're writing like that, that's usually a good indication that you're obviously doing something that resonates with and seems true and other people will connect with it."
Connect with people it did. The song helped "Making Mirrors" go gold in the states, while De Backer landed on "Saturday Night Live." The song was covered on "Glee" and "American Idol" this past spring.
Now comes Goyte's headlining tour, which rolls into the Buckeye State for a Sept. 16 date at the Lakewood Civic Auditorium and a Sept. 17 show at Columbus' Lifestyle Community Pavilion before heading to Detroit. Joining him on stage will be a 10-piece band
Now armed with such a massive hit, everyone should finally know how to pronounce his name. Well, it turns out not quite everyone.
"I had a good one recently," De Backer said. "I was in Milwaukee and some tourists asked me to take a photo of them. I had a great chuckle. And then as I walked away, they made a connection and called out down the street, 'Hey, are you that guy from guy-ho-tee?' I said 'Yeah, that's me.'"
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Hi, ladies. Just wanted to share my news...I am pregnant with #2. I am excited but also scared as I delivered a preemie in October 2002 due to PIH followed by Severe Pre-Eclampsia. My husband and I did consult with a perinatologist before conceiving who felt pretty confident that we could have a good pregnancy this time around, no guarantees of course. Prior to my first pregnancy, I had borderline hypertension, but with weight loss etc. my bp is great now (110/60) without meds. Thank God for this website, it will keep me sane during the coming months. :-) HOpe all you pregnant women are doing well!
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Thursday, October 3, 2013
Stephon Johnson remains at-large and is wanted for the murder of William Kuhn, whose body was found at Dogwood Park in Goose Creek on Sept. 18.
Goose Creek Police Department investigators are asking anyone with information regarding Johnson's whereabouts to contact their local law enforcement agency or Crime Stoppers at (843) 554-1111.
On Sept. 27, Johnson's three-year-old son Quantavious Johnson was brought to GCPD by one of Johnson's acquaintances. Quantavious was determined to be in good health and was turned over to the Department of Social Services for placement, according to a statement issued by GCPD on Monday.
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Due to the current lapse in Federal appropriations, the 2013 Savannah River Site Deer Hunts have been cancelled. The cancelled hunts were scheduled for Oct. 26 through Dec. 7. This cancellation also includes the Wounded Warrior and Mobility-Impaired Hunts held annually at SRS, scheduled for Nov. 1 and 2.
SRS deer hunt fees already received by site personnel will be refunded.
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International Paintball Tournament in Kaohsiung Taiwan on July 7th and 8th
The International Paintball Tournament in Kaohsiung Taiwan in July 7th, 8th was a great tournament. Was held in beautiful Jhong Jheng Stadium. Probably the best field ever in Taiwan to have a paintball tournament.
Most teams arrived July 5th and check in into Kingdom Hotel, which is right next to the famous Love River in Kaohsiung , as teams arrived players gather at hotel lobby chatting with old buddies and friends, after check in, we decided to hit the bar beside the hotel.. catching up with teams and chat about the good old times and have a few bottles of whiskey of course.
Games started th first day around 9am and the sun was out along with the humid weather. The event organizers had a shuttle bus from the Kingdom hotel to the field. Weather was super nice (if you like to sweat non stop) 37 degrees Celcius in the shade. The tournament format is Race to 3, with 2 divisions. Open division which had a total of 4 teams and novice (mechanical marker) had a total of 6 teams. 2 teams from outside of Taiwan came to play the event one of them is a Dye team form Japan called Nitamago and a Malaysian Dye team DRX. They had the traditional Taiwan paintball toournament opening ceromony and then games began. Once games were under way you could hear teams talking about what they did right, who bunkered who and what they need to do to win their next match. There were players who could not handle the heat but that will just make them tougher I the future or learn to drink more water.
The second started around 9am to everyones surprise because they did not put the schdule out until Sunday morning. So you had a few players walking up to play at the same start time as the day before when some of their team member who were they are already playing a match. It's a very funny feeling when you walk up to the event and see that your supposed to be on the start gate playing.
The event went all day Sunday and teams got a lot of games in. For a 10 team event to run 2 days you are guaranteed to get some paintball in.
The open division allowed the top 3 teams to make it to the final round (being only 4 teams to start) and they played a round robin format. Murpheys law came into effect where each team had won a game and lost a game. This sent the organizers into a little more work to find out who actually won that division. Either way though everyone had fun and no one was seriously hurt.
The Novice division was were the real action was as these players are the future. Seeing younger players get into the sport and play a Race2 style of game play was awesome. The Novice players had a chance to see how players played at a higher level to this also allowed them to watch and learn what can and can't be done on the paintball field.
The final results for the Taiwan International Event are;
Open Division
1st ST – Taiwan
2nd Nitamago – Japan, Dye Sponrosed team
3rd DRX – Malaysia, Dye Sponsored team
4th Sothern Legion – Taiwan
Novice Division
1st KSVS – Taiwan
2nd A-LE – Taiwan
3rd EASY PLAY – Taiwan
4th Nang Kan High School – Taiwan
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Live in the Jodi Arias crime home? No thanks
The home where Jodi Arias killed Travis Alexander is shown. (Screenshot)
In 2004, Travis Alexander bought the house Jodi Arias would later kill him in.
He paid $250,000 for it. One year after his death, another family moved in. Their realtor told them what happened in there, but the house was too good to let go. They purchased it for only $206,000.
The wife admitted to Gannett she felt a little uneasy about it.
"I was a little nervous about it. My husband, though, it didn't bother him. He said, 'This is a good deal. It's a beautiful home. It's in a great school district,'" she said. "When we signed the papers, we didn't realize this was going to be that big of a case."
They still live there -- and more power to them -- but I don't think it's something I could do. I just imagine thinking about Alexander's death all the time, but I may be saying that because of the all media attention this case has somehow commanded. My trepidation could stem from the fact that I've seen the gruesome crime scene photos taken in that bathroom.
Either way, knowing a violent death happened there makes me uncomfortable.
The current occupants hadn't seen the photos in 2009 and probably didn't know the exact details of the case. To them, it was a perfect home for a perfect price in the right neighborhood. Even though I'd be skittish about moving in, I can, on some level, understand why someone would.
But what I can't understand is why Jodi Arias tourists would drive by their house to stop and take pictures of it. One of the neighbors describes what's she's seen since the trial began back in January:
"We get a lot of out-of-town or out-of-state license plates who kind of do those drive-bys of the house. That's creepy, and it honestly does worry me a little bit because they're staring at the house and not the road."
She's right. It is creepy, especially because all you can see is the exterior of the house.
I can see people slowing their cars down and pointing, thinking they are seeing a home with historic significance similar to Paul Revere's house. As they drive by they may say things like, "That's where Jodi shot Travis in the head and stabbed him 27 times." Like it or not, this type of behavior has made Jodi Arias a celebrity.
I've tried to understand it. I just can't.
Maybe the family living in the house now could turn this into a money-making venture. They could offer tours of the house and show you exactly where it all went down. It sounds silly, but there's no doubt people would probably be lining up just to catch a glimpse.


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The 29-year-old striker has been a free agent since leaving the MLS club and will sign for his old SPL club for the rest of the season, subject to a medical.
Chairman Michael Johnston said on Friday night: "Personal terms have been agreed and we don't expect the medical to throw up any problems."
After time with Killie and Rangers, Boyd became the highest scorer in the SPL, racking up 164 goals.
The Scottish international also played for Middlesbrough, Nottingham Forest and Turkish side Eskisehirspor before he moved last year to the United States.
Boyd first joined Kilmarnock in August 2000 and made 153 appearances, scoring 63 goals until he left in January 2006 for Rangers.


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Thursday, September 5, 2013
By Scott Rodgers
Going into Friday night's matchup against McCormick, Fox Creek head coach Russ Schneider was quietly confident in his team's ability to pull off a road upset over the defending Class A Upper State champion.
Jaquan Williams had a big game to lead the Predators (1-1) to their 32-20 win over the Chiefs. He rushed for a team-high 58 yards and scored two touchdowns late in the game – one on a 52-yard punt return and another on a 19-yard interception return.
"The whole time, I kind of felt like we had a special group, and we've kept it quiet," Schneider said. "We were hoping to keep it quiet and surprise some people early. Our kids put all that work in at the weight room. Everyone says that, but we've really tied our entire program around it. The leadership that has developed out of that bond they made in the offseason is really the first time our kids have that fight about them that they aren't going to quit."
The Predators featured a wealth of running backs. Along with Williams' 58, Darshon Broadwater had 57 yards, Dalton Swires had 53 and Ike El had 52. In all the team had 47 rushes for 237 yards and three touchdowns, with Swires and quarterback Deondre Baskett accounting for the other two.
"Most people have one back who goes for 200 and it's a great game," Schneider said. "We spread it around, and I was so much happier with that. It's harder to defend when you have four guys who are getting a good bit of yards. The first thing most teams do when they play is try to stop Ike, and he's just a beast. When they keyed in on the dive we started pitching it outside to our speed guys."
The Fox Creek defense also played well according to Schneider.
"Our defense played very well," Schneider said. "Defensively they have carried us early on. Deondre had two interceptions and Jaquan had the one returned for a touchdown. Our defense has really stepped up for us. For the first time ever, they will hit you. I couldn't say that before – we had to lean into some people – but now we will hit you."
The Predators will conclude their three game set on the road to open the year at Branchville. The Predators will enjoy a bye before a home date against Augusta Christian on Aug. 20. Schneider was quick to note, however, that this is not the same Branchville that Fox Creek beat 38-15 last year.
"It's not going to be an easy game for us again," Schneider said. "I think if we can keep progressing and getting better. This group seems to watch film and fix problems and adapts week to week."
Scott Rodgers is the news editor at the North Augusta Star and has been with the paper since January 2013 after previously working at the Aiken Standard. He is a graduate of Alvernia University and currently attends Drexel University.
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Hello Everyone, I am sad to say that our Fashion Origami contests have come to a close! It has been so much fun!
First, I would like to introduce our guest judges, Carolyn and Kate. Carolyn and Kate are sisters, and you may recall Carolyn is my 8-year-old friend who originally inspired this entire origami series.
For those who haven't been following from the beginning here is a summary of the contests
Our Contest : At Liz Fields we are going to make one origami garment each day and post them here. Whoever has the best collection at the end of 60 days, wins! Think of it as Project Runway meets Julie & Julia.
Your Contest: We would love you play along with us! Send us your own fashion origami creations and at the end of 60 days one lucky contestant will win a Liz Fields original hairpiece featured in our Fall 2010 photo shoot! This is a great unique accessory to wear on your wedding day!
Now it is my pleasure to congratulate Anna, from Chicago, Illinois, on her origami wedding dress submission. Great job Anna, we will be contacting you soon!
I am also pleased to announce the winner of our own Liz Fieldsorigami contest. The winner is, Roxan!
Here is what Carolyn and Kate had to say about their decision.
"We chose this because we love how she made the wedding dress with the tiers and we loved the purple shoes with the matching bag. Very cool!"
A big thank you to all of our participants, I hope you had as much fun making your origami pieces as we did! Of course thank you to Carolyn and Kate for being great guest judges!
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Harry E. Eleas, 88, passed away on Saturday, December 1, 2012, at Wellmont Bristol Regional Medical Center.
Harry was born September 23, 1924, in Alea, Greece, a son of the late Eleas and Helen Kapourales Eleas.
As a young man, in Greece, Harry was a shepherd, and later served in the Greek Army, after World War II. After coming to America in 1951, he lived in Williamson, where he worked with his cousins and uncles in several restaurants. He later made his home in Bristol, where he became owner/operator of The Virginia Café and later, Athen's Steak House. Harry enjoyed farming and loved his assorted animals. He was a member of the Holy Trinity Greek Orthodox Church.
He was preceded in death by his son, Harry E. Eleas, Jr.
Survivors include his wife of 60 years, Betty Speropulos Eleas; children, Louie Eleasl; daughter-in-law, Suzanne Eleas; daughter, Georgea Green and husband Paul, Chris Eleas and wife Kelly, Harry H. Eleas and Special Friend Christy Cain; grandchildren, Jonathan, Chris, Austin, Maria, Alexandra, Abigail, Sarah and Tucker; sisters, Lula, Despina and Angelo; several nieces and nephews
The funeral service for Mr. Eleas will be held at 1 p.m. Wednesday, December 5, at the Holy Trinity Greek Orthodox Church, 150 Elizabeth Ann Circle, Bluff City, TN, with Father Anthony Stratis officiating. The committal service and interment will follow in Glenwood Cemetery. Sons and grandsons will serve as pallbearers. The family will receive friends from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. Tuesday, at Weaver Funeral Home.
Online condolences may be registered by visiting www.weaverfuneralhome.net.
Arrangements have been made with Weaver Funeral Home & Cremation Services, 630 Locust St., Bristol, TN 37620, 423-968-2111.


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Kurt and Rachel host Thanksgiving dinner, the vets return to mentor the newbies, and New Directions performs at Sectionals.
Quinn sings Simon and Garfunkle's "Homeward Bound" on the empty stage at McKinley. Puck, Mike, Santana join in with "Home" by Phillip Phillips. Then Mercedes and Finn arrive and the gang is back together for the holidays. Later at Breadstix they catch up and talk about Blaine and Kurt and Rachel.
Marley walks the halls at McKinley and remembers a dream about singing on stage when she was younger and now it is about to happen. She needs to lose more. She can't let the Glee kids down.
In the choir room Finn pairs the vets up with the new kids for mentorship. They are ending the show with "Gangnam Style" by PSY. Santana doesn't think anyone but Brittany can handle the dance. Finn thinks someone can.
In the hallway Jake tells Ryder he went out with Marley. He'll end it if Ryder wants him to, but she is special to him. Ryder tells him not to end it because of him, just don't take the lead in "Gangnam Style."
Walking the city, Rachel and Kurt talk about staying in New York for the holiday. She feels good about staying home for the weekend, but Kurt misses it. She thinks every time they go home they are sad. They are on the verge of being the best versions of themselves and she promises him the best Thanksgiving ever.
Mike leads the guys in an advance dance class in the auditorium. Ryder does well and beats Jake for the lead spot.
Santana, Brittany and Quinn teach the girls about synchronicity in the choir room. To demonstrate they do "Come See About Me" by the Supremes. Santana notices Marley looks sick and she acts like she is just tired.
In the halls Kitty tells Quinn she idolizes her and aspires to be her. Quinn asks about Marley and Kitty tells her that Jake is trying to pressure her into taking her V-card. Marley corners Jake by his locker and questions why he did not get the lead since he is such a good dancer. He admits it was for Ryder.
At NYADA, Brody arrives to teach Dance 101 in place of Cassie. Brody and Rachel bicker over the fact he slept with Cassie, then he leads her in a dance. She is the one who put him off for another guy. He promises it won't happen again then asks what she is doing for the holiday. She tells him about her and Kurt's orphan Thanksgiving. He offers to come over and cook and jokes about bringing Cassie too.
Quinn approaches Jake and Puck in the halls and tells him to back off Marley. She knows he is trying to force her into sex like Puck did with her. She will not be her best at sectionals if he doesn't back off.
Kurt and Isabelle discuss Thanksgiving in her office. She had gone to Gore Vidal's the past five years but he died this year. Kurt invites her to their Thanksgiving. She agrees and asks to bring some friends. He fills her in on his relationship with Blaine. She thinks he might be able to move on easier if he accepted the apology. Sometimes it is the lack of forgiving that holds them back.
In the choir room Quinn coaches Kitty on how to play the judges. Santana arrives as Kitty leaves and she is livid because Kitty gives Marley laxatives. Quinn thinks Santana is just projecting her jealousy of Quinn. She lets Santana know that her boyfriend is a 35-year-old professor who is leaving his wife for her. They smack each other until Brittany breaks it up.
Jake watches as Ryder practices his Gangnam moves backstage. Jake shows him a few things and admits he is trained in ballet. He didn't go for the lead in sectionals because Ryder asked him not to. Jake offers to help him get better instead.
Brody prepares dinner at Rachel and Kurt's place. Brody and Rachel flirt over the turkey while she fondly remembers her first sectionals. Later, a bunch of eccentric party people arrive with Isabelle and they all perform Scissor Sister's "Let's Have a Kiki" and then "Turkey Lurkey Time" by Promises Promises. Rachel and Kurt declare it was the best Thanksgiving ever.
Marley prepares for the show in the bathroom at McKinley She is so hungry but at least her dress fits. She runs into Wade in the halls and he is Unique again. He will not be ashamed of who he is and how he looks. Marley aspires to be as brave as he is. Mercedes grabs them for show circle with everyone. Sam leads them in prayer before Finn gives them a pep talk. This is their first step in their climb to meet the vets at the top of the mountain.
Sectionals begins in the auditorium and the Warblers begin with a medley of One Direction's "Live While We're Young" and Flo Rida's "Whistle." They do amazing and backstage Marley looks sick. Will joins Sue and Emma in the audience as the Rosedale Menonites perform a medley of Christmas tunes and America-themed tunes. Backstage New Directions get ready and Sam spots Will in the audience.
Kurt calls Blaine from his fire escape. He is trying to forgive him but he is not there yet. Kurt misses him like crazy. He can't stand that he is not talking to Blaine. Kurt wants to have a heart to heart at Christmas and Blaine is ecstatic. He loves Kurt so much. Kurt loves him too. Back in the party Isabelle gives him a big hug.
Marley 's hands shake as she sits in front of the vanity backstage. She tells Jake she hasn't slept in days and she is sweating and if they don't win she will let everyone down. Ryder pulls Jake aside and tells him he has to take the lead for the team. Jake agrees and takes Marley onstage. Tina leads the group in "Gangnam Style." Marley passes out at the end of the routine.
Hollie's thoughts:
Even up against a New Directions version of "Gangnam Style," the most fun of the night for me was SJP and crew's performance of "Let's Have A Kiki." Fabulous. The vets return was really ho-hum for me. Give me Kurt and Rachel's orphan holiday anytime. So is anyone else confused about Quinn? I thought she was nice, but then she came back and was mean again. So what is up with that? Marley continued on her sad eating disorder slope, but hopefully her fainting spell will be enough to get her some help.
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Why did iPhone 4S stick with the 3.5-inch screen?
There were rumors Apple might move to a 3.75 or even 4-inch screen for the 2011 iPhone, but instead iPhone 4S was introduced with the same 3.5-inch screen size Apple has used since 2007. Dustin Curtis thinks it all boils down to what it usually does for Apple -- usability.
Touching the upper right corner of the screen on the Galaxy S II using one hand, with its 4.27-inch screen, while you're walking down the street looking at Google Maps, is extremely difficult and frustrating. I pulled out my iPhone 4 to do a quick test, and it turns out that when you hold the iPhone in your left hand and articulate your thumb, you can reach almost exactly to the other side of the screen. This means it's easy to touch any area of the screen while holding the phone in one hand, with your thumb. It is almost impossible to do this on the Galaxy S II.
Basically, Apple treats iPad as a two-handed device, iPhone as a one- or two-handed device.
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Why did iPhone 4S stick with the 3.5-inch screen?
very True!
Good reasoning, but my preference would have been multiple devices.
I think th iphone is a nice device, but I prefer something a little larger, especially during my Netflix lunch breaks.
Give us choice of size, p-p-please!!
That's why I have an iPad.
Can't make calls on my iPad, nor do I tote it around everywhere I go.
oh yeah, did the same test wth my iPhone and Thunderbolt, I can hit all corners easily on both devices. I'm not that tall and my hands are pretty normal for a 5'11 man.
Size doesn't really matter, it is clarity of what you see that matters and you can see just as well with a 3.5 inch screen.
It doesn't need to be bigger. better sound would be an improvement but having a larger screen that would necessitate larger pixels would affect the image quality and then people would whine making a noise like Fran Drescher in the Nanny!
So when you bought an HDTV for your living room, did you get a 42" or did you stick with the 19", because size doesn't matter...its all about the clarity.
That is irrelevant we are not talking about a difference of double the size. Though it would depend on the size of the room. Sitting too far away from a small screen obviously the experience is harmed but sitting too near to a large screen you have the same loss of experience.
Where do you sit at the cinema, do you sit at the front with that huge cinema screen to watch the Movie? No you sit were it is comfortable to view the movie and you get the best possible viewing experience.
Again when you get a phone a larger screen is not relevant to the experience. When the size gets too large it requires a user to hold the phone progressively further away to allow them to view the screen comfortably. It's a simple ergonomic argument.
As it happens I have a 42 inch screen in my living room but I happen to sit where it would, relative to the distance be the same as holding a 3.5 inch screen at a comfortable ergonomic distance where I do not get strain to my eyes and do not end up with aching limbs from holding a phone at arms length to read or view something.
If you want a huge screen I suggest that there are plenty of huge phones out there that will make you 'wet'.
Sadly Mr Orange, looking at photo's of your member on a big screen isn't going to make it any bigger when the missus is disappointed in it! Sorry.
yes. I think this is the bigger reason for no larger screen. It would have cost too much to have a 4" retina screen and keep the price at 199, 299, 399
Greg. You are partially correct.
It would COST more than APPLE is willing to pay.
Remember the phone only costs about $180 in parts to build. Samsung pays about the same to build the SGII line. The difference is Samsung isn't gouging the carriers and consumer's. I paid $25 bucks on sale for a phone that is $180 on contract. The Apple line of phones are never on sale unless Apple allows the carriers to dump them due to old tech. Its the whole reason Apple has a huge amount of cash in the bank account now. Apples profit is %500+a phone!!!!
The reason Samsung and Android can sell those phones cheaper isn't because they don't want to gauge customers it's because they release new devices all the time. There's been what, 3 flags hip Droid's released in the last 4-5 months? Thunderbolt, Charge and now the Bionic, plus the Droid 3 and Droid X2. They know they can sell those cheaper because the hardcore Droid fan will always want the newest model, whereas the iPhone is just that, the iPhone. The only difference is black and white and gigs.. People are so gullible.
Again, to make a retina display at 4 inches would complicate the production process and compatibility of software. To make it compatible it would require doubling the physical resolution of the screen again, on a 4 inch display so that the hardware could translate the image data correctly and maintain a retina display. The hardware is not available for this type of resolution and it would affect performance to make software do the adjustment. Any performance improvement a dual core processor gives would be lost by the constant interference of the operating system to adjust the screen data to meet the 4 inch display AND there would still be a degree of loss of retina display with the translation made by software.
There is no way I would go back to the 3G(s) screen after having the 4. I can't believe it when I look at someone else's 3G(s) phone. I would definitely not be happy. Now if they kept the same ppi and went to a larger screen, that would be the only real upgrade (and a very nice one, I think). However, I think that would be a major change due to changing the resolution of all the existing apps, etc...
Nexus Prime to be announced soon is supposed to be 4.65" curved screen but have a 1280x720 pixel resolution. This would give it the retina display pip that the iPhone 4 & 4S have now. One can argue the screen is too big or won't fit in their pocket, but the technology for the pip density on the bigger screens is there.
Most of these devices with larger screens are using that Pentile thing where the screen quality suffers, otherwise there would be battery life problems. I'll take quality over size any day, go read about all the complaints about Pentile, I'm glad they didn't go that route.
The Super AMOLED HD will not be Pentile. Neither the Nexus Prime or the Droid HD is reported to come with a Pentile Screen. Plus, not all Pentile screens are equal. It all depends on the type of Pentile screen.
This is not true. The iPhone 3.5-inch Retina display has a pixel density of 326 ppi. The Samsung Galaxy SII, with a screen size of 4.65-inches has a pixel density of 316 ppi (a difference not visible to the human eye).
Also the Motorola Droid HD (or RAZR), will launch with a 4.5-inch screen with a pixel density of 329 ppi.
I have always said to my friends that I don't want a bigger iPhone. The size right now is just right to fit into my hand and my pocket. I don't want to feel like I am walking around with a tablet in my pocket. OK, insert the "Is that a tablet in you pocket..." jokes here. ;)
I agree 100% I like my phone in my pocket and I like my phone with a case on it, so 3.5" works fine. If I need to watch a movie, TV show, or for some reason need a bigger screen I find one. Either my iPad or macbook seem to work just fine. 4" would offer me no real benefit other than making some icons bigger and it be more obvious I am using my phone.
I feel exactly the same as Adam. Speaking for myself, I'll say that in the unlikely event that Apple increases the size of the iPhone, I'll buy it if it's smaller than other smartphones on the market. I prefer 3.5" but could handle 4". I don't expect there to be many Android phones under 4.3" next year.
I think they will increase the size with the next hardware revision, however, I think they will stay above 300 ppi w/o changing the total number of pixels to maintain app compatibility. Whatever size screen can fit within these constraints is my guess to be the next screen revision. I get the one hand argument but I am still hoping for a bigger screen.
They stuck with the screen because they already have the production pipeline for the 3.5 retina displays and they can milk another year out of it. While people (including me) wanted a larger screen, the retina display is still considered one of the best displays available. So why increase the screen size, and hence lower the pixel density, and take a hit for a screen that is not as sharp. It's the same reason they went with the same form factor again. They will re-design it next year with the iphone 5 after they have fully reaped the benefits of increased margins.
Maybe they had too many already made in china, and now they try to dispose them, just a thought!
While I think the iPhone will never get a huge screen for this reason, I think the lack of any change comes back to battery life. Through all of apples product release, the nest generation never sacrifices anything, the features either improve or stay the same. Therefore apple would rather keep the same screen and improve battery life, than increase screen size and sacrifice the battery. While sometimes frustrating, I do think this plan of action is what keeps apple products such high quality.
Yes, yes it can.
makes sense!
the truth is apple might have no choice but to switch to 4" minimum next iphone, when the original iphone came out 3.5" was HUGE , now it's the minimum. Hanging on to the 3.5" too much will have the same impact on them as it did on RIM for hanging on to the keyboard too long. Yeah it's awesome keyboard but it's time to move on. like it or not, no 4" next year will equal time to move on for a lot of people, the whole they'll sell a million phones anyways argument won't hold water because technically RIM and NOKIA sell millions right now, when your this size it's not about only selling millions, it's about selling more and staying cool and relevant.
Apple stuck with that screen size because of a lack innovation. Reports indicate they people like bigger screens. One mans justification means little yo nothing.
I think that this 3.5 - inch screen is all we need, i mean that this is the perfect size, is not too big and not too small!
Tha'ts what she said...till she tried a hand at an Android.
Try getting fully grown adult hands and you'll find the iPhone screen is too small "when you articulate your thumb".
I'm sure power management and the fact that larger IPS displays are ridiculously expensive had nothing to do with it?
The reason they didn't change was because it would have been a nightmare for developers. iPad screen is bigger but the why the pixels/resolution works out it is pretty much double that of the iPhone. So that was simple for developers. A small change in the iPhone screen size would mean that EVERY app would have to be redesigned to accommodate the new resolution.
Umm..yah...the resolution would stay the same. Hypothesizing about what the developers would have to do doesn't make it real. The pixel density would drop, but that's ok. If the first 3 phones were so 'fantastic' for iPhone users, then Apple should have the leeway to drop right back down to that same pixel density. Could probably make a 6" phone or something like that...lol
Yet the same developers make apps that work on a large variety of Android phones all with different screen sizes. The developer argument is a moot point. Its already being done with other platforms, and you build the app for the phone...you don't build the phone for the app.
That is one of the dumbest things I've heard in a while. What it boils down to is the fact that Apple knows they can get away with the same design as last year since they have done it quite a bit with the iPhone since it came out. Why make it bigger when they already have all the parts for this phone. Perhaps they finally got the white body perfected as well so it is just cost efficient for them. You know they will at least move to a 4 inch screen next year. Guarenteed.
Yea, I treat my 3.5" as a one-handed device too. It isn't he size that matters, it is the usability.
You guys are setting yourselves up for a mountain of disappointment next year. As Gruber has pointed out, Apple devices have always either gotten smaller or retained their current size (unless you include the Newton line, what wasn't a Jobs project).
There's zero evidence that Apple is coming out with a 4" screen in the future. It's all keep-up-with-the-Droids wishful thinking.
Stupid reasoning
So make screen taller and keep the same width.
The first 3 phones had low resolutions and Apple user's thought it was better than sliced bread....high res..who needs it.
Get a higher res screen and suddenly the user's think Apple invented high resolution.
Same will apply to a larger screen. When Apple does put out a larger screen iPhone all the iSheep will suddenly comment on how the 'new' screen size is perfect because 'makeupareasonthatappearslogicalbuthasnobasisinfactandinsert_here'.....lol. And then they will act like Apple was first to market and someone made the world better. lol
A far as smartphones go, Apple did invent high resolution.
I would be disappointed if Apple started to make bigger screens just because the competition does.
The current size is just right. And it wasn't chosen overnight. I bet Steve and the team worked with dozen of iPhone prototypes of different form factors, shapes and materials.
Most people just don't understand what goes into a great mobile phone design. The speed at which Android phones are released tells me that they don't spend much time of actually designing something very usable. Usability is not their goal.
The reason cited is absolutely valid as well as the other 9 reasons why the iPhone screen size is what it is.
Steve would understand...
i don't care what there reasoning is. i want a 4 inch screen. It's not the biggest deal. i don't have an iphone so lack of it won't stop me from getting a 4s but a lack of it likely will stop me from getting a 5 unless it has some other killer app like it prints money or can produce clones of Paula Patton.
The inherent problem with this article is that it assumes that if Apple were to build an iPhone with a larger display, that it would use the same screen ratio as the WVGA (15:9) Galaxy S2.
Apple uses a 15:10 screen size ratio so the comparison above is a bit skewed.
Also, the green area for the thumb travel isn't even the same from the iPhone to the SGS2. Why the discrepancy?
This 4" screen would add about 1/4" to width and height. Is that a dealbreaker?
I'm sure when Apple finally gets around to building a 4" screened iPhone, all of these silly arguments against a larger screen will be forgotten.
screen size is a matter of preference...when i only had the iphone 4 i thought yes this is perfect size but then when i got my galaxy s2 i liked it even better,media and web browsing just felt better on the 4.3'' screen.. the iphone 4 is easier with one hand but i never did use it with one hand so it didnt matter...also now everytime i use the iphone 4 it just feels more small and cramped and especially considering they are both just as portable...
But you are here reading it and commenting on it. What a life you must have.
Sorry, I don't buy this explanation, not even close. To say the reason for a 3.5" screen is that it peserves a 1-handed form factor is not nearly the full story. Smaller hands can use a 4" screen just fine, not to mention that these days a smartphone is not just a phone, it's "the world in your pocket" - a larger 4" screen makes far more sense for browsing, viewing photos/media, social interaction, etc.
The more likely reasons why Apple kept a 3.5" screen are:
- They can get away with it. Plenty of demand to delay another year before making a screen change. Financially, they'll make tons of money keeping the 3.5" for now and they know it. Moving to a 4" does not dramatically change the demand picture.
- Leverage existing production infrastructure. It's cheaper to continue with existing manufacturing machinery, processes, equipment, suppliers, etc by staying with 3.5" for another year. Changing to 4" means costly retooling and capital investment (for probably little additional demand).
- Application Ecosystem: moving to a higher resolution 4" screen means all developers in the app ecosystem would need to update their apps for a different display. Again, added disruption for not much added demand.
- Battery life: bigger screens eat more juice, and battery life has always been a problem on the iPhone. On the other hand, bigger screen means bigger case, means you can stuff a bigger battery in there. But then there will be weight, feel, and other form-factor issues. Sure these can be addressed - and soon enough there will be a 4" iPhone with all of these additional form-factor issues resolved wonderfully - but again, Apple can afford to wait.
BOTTOM LINE: Apple makes beautiful, innovative products, but they're also business people. 3.5" vs. 4" comes down to money and timing. Going 4" today is a nice thing, but they really don't need to do it just yet, they can wait a while, they'll still make crazy money with 3.5", and they know it.
I'm sorry but you cannot be serious in thinking a 4" iPhone will hurt the iPad market...no one is going to give up their 9.7" iPad because their phone has a 4" screen.
His argument is more subtle than you're inferring. He's not saying that people would give up their iPads. He's saying that there would be less craving for an iPad if the iPhone's size was "satisfactory".
Think of it this way: you either think the iPhone's screen is just the right size, or that it should be bigger. There seems to be a contingent of iPhone users who crave something "bigger". It really doesn't matter if it's 4", 4.3", 4.65" or 5"--just as long as it's "bigger". So people won't be satisfied with a 4" screen for more than six months. Rather than waste money on tooling a marginally bigger screen and casing just to placate alpha geeks, Apple just lets them channel their desire into the iPad.
The reason there isn't a larger screen is becaue the majority of the population doesn't know any different and aren't comparision shopping. They are following the brand hype and not demanding more from Apple as far as innovation and features... Apple is king of suckering its customers outa every penny for very lack luster upgrades, and they don't do a thing until the competion's features really start to make them look bad. iCloud, notifications, Siri, multitasking, sound customizations, etc, etc - were only provided once the competition made them standard and apple customers started to demand it.. Apple LOVES to trickle things out... They are more like a drug dealer then a innovative tech company..
3.5 is the perfect size ............ Well at least until Apple tells you that 4 inches is the perfect size. Face it you are all pissed off that Apple dropped the ball. By this reasoning if one handed use is the way to go than Blackberry should be cleaning up. I have a 4.3 inch HTC Sensation and I have no problem reaching all corners of the screen with one hand, and I'm 5'9 with normal sized hands. I can't believe that this article was even published trying to justify that Apple left it at 3.5 because it's ergonomic.......please! They left it this size because they knew they could milk millions off the same crap with a different name, and then milk millions next year off the same chumps when they announce the revolutionary, industry leading, never before seen 4" screen! Come on people open your eyes and see it for what it is. Oh and by the way it's ok to be disappointed and voice your opinion.
I'm also 5'9" with normal sized hands, but I went from a 4.3" Evo to a 4" Nexus S for better ergonomics, and will be moving to the 4S for the same reason (the iPhone wasn't on option on Sprint). Even when I briefly swapped out the Evo for my old Hero (3.3" I believe), as underpowered as the Hero was, the handling of the phone tempted me to keep using it. Alas, the Hero performance was unacceptable, but I absolutely loved the size of the phone.
I've disagreed with many of Apple's positions and policies, but Android's trend toward jumbophones has pushed me to make my peace with Apple.
The same could be said about that android phone. Complete junk.
Incredible, article based on no evidence or insider information .. just total guessing. Couldn't it have been a problem with the suppliers or manufacturers in China? or a business decision that fools will continue to buy this overpriced phone? Could be a million reasons.
What a miserable attempt to describe Apple's obvious failure to come up with a better phone as a clever 'usability' design decision.
The most ridiculous explanation ever !! :(
People listen up:
The only reason Apple didn't show an iPhone 5 with a 4" screen this year but only an updated iPhone 4 is because Apple designed the iPhone 5 with an embedded SIM card and the carriers said no way! This was back in May since the iPhone 5 was going to be released in June. Apple then had to redesign the iPhone 5 in order to make room for a SIM card hence the delay and later they realized they couldn't get this on time and just slapped a bigger chip on the iPhone 4 and called it the iPhone 4S. This makes all sense now.
Would be nice if the graphic you made was fair to proportions. SGS2 is not that big compared to the iPhone. Plus the greep semicircle is bigger in the iPhone than the SGS2. Just look at the bottom of the semicircle, they start at the same top point, but the SGS2 has less height.
sgs2 ftw
Reading on a 4.5inch screen is much easier on the eyes, I always felt that the iPhone screen was too small. I can easily reach all 4 corners on the SGS2, once you go to 4.5inch you wont want to go back, trust me.
Wow, that was fucking insightful
Perhaps it is that Samsung makes the Screens for the iPhone, and with all the legal issues between Apple and Smasung right now, Apple doesn't want to enter into a contract with Samsung and are trying to find a new vender for a larger Hi-res screen along with other parts.
I think that this theory is a bit over reaching because its dependent on hand size and some uses.
I prefer a smaller screen. Not only do I not own an iPhone (I'm here because I plan to get a 4S now that Sprint's on board), but I downgraded from an Evo 4G to a Nexus S in large part for the smaller screen. I would've gotten an N1 if Sprint hadn't reneged on their plans to carry it.
I understand the superficial more-is-better appeal of larger screens, but I don't use my phone as a PMP, I'm more concerned with better ergonomics.
I am pretty sure that's the reason considering that they just introduced Siri.. the voice input assistant.. you know to help with the fingers. And by the way, I have Atrix and never had a problem with the fingers, but I must be bigger than the average iphone user.
To paraphrase Jobs... "You're holding it wrong".
I would like to see the numbers! Would be great if you guys could start a POLL asking people about their preferred screen size. I am ok with the iPhone form factor - that is one reason why I am sticking with it, as Androids are too big for a phone (except for motorola defy plus). I think Apple will increase screen size if they can keep the device´s form factor - meaning, a screen extending all the way to the very edge of the device. But again, they will run into problems with resolution as so many other mobile device OS did (think palmOS). But I am ok with it, if they do change things, they´ll do it when the technology is there and it´ll "just work".
I'm 5'5, and have quite small hands. I'm holding a GS2 in my right hand right now, and can tell you that I can reach every single part of the screen easily.
What a ridiculous article.
The big screens are going backwards in my opinion. The beaver-tail looking thunderbolts and samsungs are not going forward with technology, instead it seems to be the opposite. Shorter battery life, easier to damage, not to mention for those people in the field that work for a living have to fit these things in there pockets. The iPhone 4 has the perfect screen size!
Lucky for you you have the ideal hand size that Apple were designing for!
I imagine it would be extremely difficult and frustrating to not have those sized hands.
Personally i find it extremely easy and comfortable using my GS2
Lucky for you you have the ideal hand size that Apple were designing for!
I imagine it would be extremely difficult and frustrating to not have those sized hands.
Personally i find it extremely easy and comfortable using my GS2
That is true that a smaller screen is easier for some people to reach all of it.
But there is sooo much usability given up by the little screen.
People always compares diagonals but ignore aspect ratio so that's not an apples to apples comparison (no pun intended).
The iPhone also uses a very squat 1.5 to 1 aspect ratio unlike most phones' 1.67 to 1 aspect ratio. So combined with the smaller diagonal, it amplifies the difference.
For example, the HTC Evo with a 4.3 inch screen and a 1.67:1 aspect ratio has 8.17 square inches of screen to work with rather than the iPhone's 5.65 square inches.
For people like me who use a smartphone more as a PDA/eReader/Information Manager more than as a phone, that affects usability far more than having to occasionally shift the phone a tiny bit in my hand to reach a far icon.
[Cue the people who say they wouldn't want a bigger screen but who will suddenly find it great when the iPhone 5 has one].
My phone has a 4" screen and I can easily use it one handed, at the very least they should have upped it to 3.75, you would have to have very small hands to not be able to use it one handed with a 3.75inch screen. plus, the smaller the screen, the more crisp and clear it seems. I'm thinking of getting this phone, they don't need to make it huge, just a bit bigger. however, I have large (not fat, just big) hands, for instance I can Palm a Regulation basketball. I can EASILY reach every corner of my 4.0" Screen one handed. however I think that they should have at least upped it to 3.75"
Apple needs to "STEP IT UP" the other companies are running circles around them.. 16 months to release a poor makeshift stall.. buying time for ??? litigation or $$$
I am an Apple follower but I'm getting board with what they are doing? Apple set the bar now they are falling short.. Sorry Its the truth.. you know it!
This is exactly why I'd prefer a nexus s over nexus prime or galaxy s2. 3.5 is the right size for ppl like me, who use single hand (thumb) for most use, and two hands (again both thumbs) only when playing games in landscape mode. Any bigger screen size is for those who hold the phone in one hand and use the index finger of the other for most of the usage.
This is actually pretty dumb reasoning. It assumes that the iPhone was designed to be used with a single hand and operated via a thumb only. But ever since the first iPhone one of the most useful and innovative features has been multitouch (you know, pinch to zoom etc) - you cannot do this with a single thumb...


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Originally posted by LadyEuphei
Elite purchasers had what they paid for taken away from them, and were given something else in compensation. The deluxe edition was not modified in any such way. Elite purchasers made their discontent clear, Snail acknowledged their error, and gave them what was purchased while allowing them to keep the previous compensation. While that does increase the elite edition's value compared to deluxe, the circumstances are very specific; a certain subset of customers had an issue, that issue was resolved. When the table next to yours has an issue with their meal and the restaurant strikes it from the bill, and then offers them a free dessert, do you demand the same treatment?
That said, I personally couldn't care less about any gap between elite and deluxe. If Snail decides to give deluxe purchasers the same benefits, that's fine by me. What I disagree with is the idea that deluxe purchasers are now entitled to that, or that Snail is somehow treating them unfairly. It feels as though they are greedily piggy-backing on the legitimate complaints of the elite users, and trying to use the momentum of an actual issue to get more than what they paid for.
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Originally posted by LadyEuphei
so you never bought a new cell phone and the next version of it came out for free? you never had internet service and your company allows new subscribers to pay way less then you. you never bought gas for your car, then the price went down a few hours later? what about buying a game and then it goes on sale? thats all the same product/service for different prices, its how everything works.
the elite editon was on sale for 10bucks. now its not.
Originally posted by Jianyu
I think you should consider how you price virtual products. I would compare them to what others have (actually generally I only purchase them if they are pretty) The arguement stands that the deluxe was sold and the only price comparison that was available was the elite. People understood they were getting less, the understood they had to pay more, but they had an idea of how it stacked up to other packages.
By increasing the value of the first package they decreased the value of the second package. Compensating the elits was nice, but it totally warped the value of items. As a player who has ot bought either, I was looking at the deluxe edition. After the elite buff I look at the deluxe edition as complete trash. It is just so small for 20 bucks and its a free to play game just seems weird to me. Again I bought neither and I am giving my opinion based on someone that was looking at purchasing possibly, but I fel bad for the deluxe guys, the lost alot of value.
Originally posted by LadyEuphei
I guess i just dont understand it that way. i value things for myself. if i find it has value i get it if it doesnt i wont buy it. i dont feel shafted when something goes on sale after i bought it. i dont see the value going down.
Originally posted by st4t1ck
I am not sure if you read what you wrote, but I do not see a very good comparison or anything really. lets address everything in parts.
so you never bought a new cell phone and the next version of it came out for free?
First this is in the opposite order as the elite to deluxe and if I had bought my cell phone a month earlier, you better bet I would go back get a refund and get the new one for free.
you never had internet service and your company allows new subscribers to pay way less then you.
I check promotional deals, you an call me a frugal b**ch. I call my internet company and threaten to switch every few months to assure I get the best deal. Which usually ends up better than the new customer deal.
you never bought gas for your car, then the price went down a few hours later?
The comparison here is mute because it is only going to change a few cents. If I bought gas for 4 dollars and than it went to 1 an hour later I would be pissed! I would try and figure out some way to get my money back, believe you me.
what about buying a game and then it goes on sale?
Again wrong order, but for the sake of arguement I would still exchange the card for the new price if it was with in a month and it never drops from 20 dollars to 5 dollars.
Your not getting the point. This was not some small change, this was huge. The value of elite increased 4 fold and deluxe was left the same. This is not a few cents and every example you gave you can exchange for the new rate. I would have exchanged or fought for the better price in all cases, if you do not I feel sorry for you or I feel sorry I am not as rich as you to throw away money. I admit I have a problem spending money (probably why I didnt buy elite or deluxe for a free to play game) but it still is a problem with giving value to one product that is very similair to the another and leaving the other product the same. That deflates its value in my eyes.
Originally posted by st4t1ck
No, I get your point and totally agree since I usually only buy cosmetic objects because I like how they look. I just see what the deluxe players are saying and find it interesting the elite players can not see it.
Originally posted by LadyEuphei
I'm going to break this down:
We have concluded our investigation of the matter wherein Elite and Deluxe members initially received the same pre-purchase benefits. As a result, all Elite members will shortly receive the following:
30 extra days of VIP, bringing their total free VIP period up from 60 days to 90 - Again, this is just the Elite package being brought back up to what was originally promised.
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What I find ridiculous in the first place is, all cash shop items are timed to expire in a certain amount of days such as mounts and outfits, I mean who in their right mind is going to buy a mount or new outfit every 30 days or whatever it is, it just seems like an over zealous way of squeezing every last penny from the player base and it has turned me off this company in a way that they will not see a dollar out of me.
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Originally posted by Bl4ck3nD
You would be surprised. Some of us have decent amounts of disposable income and therefore do not care to through away a little cash here and there on our hobby.
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Originally posted by Roxtarr
That sums it up pretty well I think. It is interesting how the two factions have formed. Snail should never have given anything extra to the elites then what was originally included in their deal. I'm guessing they wanted to apologize for the mount snafu and didnt realize it would piss off the deluxers. They seem to be making knee jerk decisions and muddling the whole situation up in the process. They should add to the deluxe package whatever extra they just added to the elite package and leave it at that, everyone gets what they paid for plus a little bonus. Any other problems between the elites and deluxers should be settled in pvp. :)
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I only get an order page for 19.99, how do you only pay 9.99?
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Originally posted by Bl4ck3nD
This was actually the route of old free to play games before the Tripple A titles started to become free to play with cash shop options. You could buy cosmetic and powerful items for one week or one month, and some even offered permanent version of that item for like $150 or something instead of paying $10 a month.
It was pretty ridiculous when I came across those games, but at the same time made enough off of it to fund what are large F2P MMO companies today.
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Originally posted by SupportPlayerMM
You cannot. The elite deal was for a limited time over a month ago.
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Logic, reason and fact do not supersede human nature. Ignorance reigns without justice.
As a third party in this (in addition to doing some moderate reading on the subject) both sides have some good points.
Ultimately when it comes to being a consumer that is offered several options to purchase a product one would typically compare the different tiers to make an educated decision on what was best for them. In this case that plateau was destroyed as the more expensive version was cheapened in terms of it's value.
That is the base line hard core truth on this matter. The previous pack, which was sold for much cheaper, is giving an abundant amount of compensation for an exceedingly cheap price. I hear people saying that any additions is for the early adopters of the game -- which is the opposite of the whole "early adopter" philosophy of people who buy stuff that then loses value over time -- though I'd have to disagree as a whole simply because the the original price point is a gift for those who "believed in" the game from the start.
The perm. horse was taken away from the early adopters, and then was replaced with two cash shop items for approximately 28 days as well as quite a bit of gold. This in itself seems like a red flag for the game's economy, in addition to the consumer who later bought the game or may plan in doing such.
On the one side, it's almost scandalous to cheapen the value of something you purchase from the point of the consumer ( in the way that was explained in the second paragraph I.E. consumer good will and not in an illegal way ). On the other it would make the compensation for those who got it less than adequate if they gave extra gold to all, as it would put the economy in a further state of disrepair as well as causing significant inflation as the purchasing power of said gold would plummet. Next we have the crowd that just plain don't care and think everyone -- from the people who originally complained about the horses to the ones who bought the more expensive version -- might be a bit too entitled.
The only way out of this situation would be to come up with something to add to increase the worth of the more expensive purchase -- a single 14 day mount or something -- in addition to giving out refunds for those who aren't happy with such. Thought that's just my opinion on the subject.
As a whole I would seek to get a refund on the game if it pulled something like this; I would not have faith in the people who either made or moderated it. When I look at price tags I want to see the all the options available and compare them. Even if an option is no longer available, I would like to compare it to the options I do have and make an educated decision in such. Taking that solace away from me is something I just can't tolerate as a consumer and I would remove myself without fuss. People don't need to hear my grievances and there is probably more productive things we all could be doing than listening to the whining.
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Interesting, i have been on the thin line in regard to preordering this game, i like the overall concept and have been playing Darkfall and now involved in the Darkfall Unholy wars beta so my time is pretty much spent. Reading the comments in this thread somewhat deter me from trying the game as it does seem like i would be throwing away money...again on an mmo, which seems to be the routine now for MMo gamers. BTW nice post Lady, good detail:) and if that is you in your avatar..very beautiful, you single? lol.
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Originally posted by parrotpholk
I have no problem putting money into a game at all, but to buy the same horse or outfit every month on top of a sub, no thanks.
Originally posted by Salenger
Truth be told the game is fantastic. There have been recent missteps in terms of communication and the handling of certain issues on the behalf of the publisher, but so far they've been very open in their communication and candid in discussing the issues, at least with those of us who can articulate our concerns.
If the idea that there was a limited time offer that you missed out on, which contained more benefits than you are currently able to obtain at a lower price than what you would pay now, doesn't bother you, then I absolutely say that the game is worth the buy-in price for the Deluxe edition. If not that, then certainly worth holding out for when it opens up to the broader public for free.
Originally posted by Jianyu
I completely disagree. I think telling someone to purchase a game that is already having this kind of an issue with its policy is folly. This company is obviously not educated in how to deal with these issues. The game is very nice, I would strongly suggest trying it out for the free 10 hour period, but for your own sake do not invest as it is as they say on the forums a "bait and switch" deal. I would wait and see the dust settle before beting on this title. And yes the avatar is me and thank you
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Originally posted by Jianyu
Uhhh, go read what Deluxe was suppose to get. It states "Special events and sweeptakes just for Deluxe members". Now it's being said that Elite gets that too. So the one thing we got as a bonus for spending $20 isn't an exclusive to us anymore. So we lost something that was ours only, so shouldn't we be given something for that in return?
I don't mind that Elite got more but I think how much they got for $9.99 compaired to what we got for $19.99 is way unfair. Considering Elite also now gets our exclusive. They could offer us something like extra VIP, or a perm mount or more Gold.
Originally posted by LadyEuphei
wait bait and switch, you think there is some kind of devalue in what was bought. if you want to play the game unlimited then spend the 20's you get what you pay for and you kno what your gonna get before you spend it. i see no bait and switch there. they were trying to compensate for a mistake they made with the elite package. the over compensated a little with some extra gold. that does not lower the value of what you get


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