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Logic puzzle about a priest, please help?! (self.CasualMath)
submitted 2 years ago by lemon_cello
Hi! I found a logic puzzle that goes like this:
The Priest said to the monk: "We had three visitors, ourselves excluded, visiting our church today. The product of their ages was 2450 and the sum was two times your age. Can you tell me how old they were?"
The monk who was good at math said: "No, I can't".
"If I tell you that I was the oldest one in church today, can you solve it now?" And the monk could. Can you?
[–]710_113 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (1 child)
Someone "translated" this from its original version, for what reason I have no idea.
A very bright and sunny day The priest did to the verger say: "Last Monday met I strangers three None of which were known to thee. I ask'd them of their age combin'd Which amounted twice to thine! A riddle now will I give thee: Tell me what their ages be!" So the verger ask'd the priest: "Give to me a clue at least!" "Keep thy mind and ears awake, And see what thou of this can make. Their ages multiplied make plenty, Fifty and ten dozens twenty." The verger had a sleepless night To try to get their ages right. "I almost found the answer right. Please shed on it a little light." "A little clue I give to thee, I'm older than all strangers three." After but a little while The verger answered with a smile: "Inside my head has rung a bell. Now I know the answer well!" Now, the question is: **How old is the priest?**
[–]lemon_cello[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
I'm swedish, and my friend got the puzzle as a maths assignment, and it was translated to swedish (not rhymed). So I translated it to english on my own. Nice to see the original :)
[–]SkepticalEmpiricist 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child)
The problem statement is vague on an important point - did the monk know the priest's age before the conversation? I think the answer is yes, but it's not clear to me.
There are two people, the priest and the monk, in this conversation. Who knows what, before the conversation? The priest knows everything, he knows the ages of the strangers and of the monk and his own age. Presumably, the monk knows his own age. And obviously the monk doesn't know the strangers' ages. But I think he must know the priest's age in order for this puzzle to be solvable.
[–]ThatMathNerd 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Going off the poem above:
The monk knows the priest's exact age. However, the reader does not. What the reader is given is that the monk does not know the three age of the visitors, but if he does know that they are younger than the priest, he can uniquely determine them.
There is most likely only one such age for the priest such that this occurs, which the reader is tasked with finding (and in turn finds the three ages).
I'm not sure if the monk's age is relevant as well. The monk could be a mere second younger than the priest though, so I don't think it particularly matters for the problem.
[–]wfb0002 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago* (0 children)
Ages 35, 35, and 2.
We know that the product of the ages must equal 2450 (obviously) and that the sum of the ages must be even. Furthermore, each age has to be less than half of the sum of all three ages (triangle inequality).
So if we look at the prime factors of 2450, we get 2, 5, 5, 7, 7. We have to construct three numbers by multiplying any of these factors together and then removing that factor from the group. Fortunately, 57, 57, 2 stuck out to me because the sum would have to be even 2*(m) + 2 is even and it clearly has the triangle property.
edit: It appears that the problem is to determine 5 different ages, thus this solution is invalid.
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[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago* (6 children)
I don't quite agree with some of what you said. Your analysis in terms of "pieces of information about this system" is not very helpful... the last "piece of information" is of the wrong type, and won't allow you to eliminate one degree of freedom, so this isn't just a system of equations you can solve trivially.
With the first two pieces of information, there is a finite set of solutions, given that the ages have to be positive integers, and this is essential to the problem.
You can list this finite set of solutions by decomposing 2450 into prime factors :
2450 = 2 * 52 * 72
So, the possible solutions for the ages are:
2, 52, 72
2, 5, 5*72
5, 5, 2*72 etc.
You can list the sum of the ages for each of these possibilities.
The fact that the monk knows the sum and the list of solutions and yet still can not work out the solution means there must be two (or more) possibilities in the list with the same sum.
So far, this is the same problem as the Ages of the Three Children.
This is where it gets slightly different.
!!! I am pretty sure that the problem statement is wrong: it should be "You were the oldest person in the church today", or the sum of the ages is twice the age of the priest !!!.
In all but one of the possible solutions that we have identified so far, one of the numbers will be larger than the sum of the other two - meaning that person was older than the monk/priest, so we can rule them out. Leaving one possibility.
Edit: see underneath, Veggie figured out how to glean the last piece of information from the problem statement, which is correct.
[–]Veggie 15 points16 points17 points 2 years ago (5 children)
I think the problem statement is right. I believe the objective is to determine all 5 ages.
The only real possibilities are {49,10,5} and {50,7,7}, meaning the monk is 32. Now, if the priest were 70 or something, the last piece of information would not help the monk solve it. The only case where it does is if the priest is 50.
Thus, the ages are 50, 49, 32, 10, 5.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Brilliant, I hadn't actually crunched through the numbers, and I couldn't see a priori how the age of the priest helped.
But you did, and it's clear now.
Edit: not that you actually had to crunch through the numbers to figure out how to use the last bit of information
[–]whoisthisagain 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child)
What about if the ages of the three people that visited were 2,35, and 35? The The monk would be 36 and the priest could be anything bigger than 36.
[–]Veggie 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children)
There would have to be another combo for the 3 ages that summed to 72, or the monk could have solved it without the final piece of information. Only the pair I gave have a common sum.
[–]awesomeosprey 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child)
I think this is mostly correct, but wouldn't the priest have to be 49? Otherwise I don't think you've eliminated the {50, 7, 7} case since the priest could be older than the oldest visitor by a matter of months.
[–]Veggie 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Ages are integers in this problem, so there is no "older by months" as far as I can tell.
There may be an implicit assumption that the ages are meant to be integers.
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Yes i know I come off as anti pvp.. but .. really i am not .
I Have played several games where pvp was a big part of the game .. but generally most players are "care bears" and prefer it in it's place and time ..Most people also prefer some type of reward for pvping.. and even if they arn't die hard pvpers ..if the rewards are good they will pvp. so here we have D3 where at release ..Arena will have no rewards besides achievements. some people will play for fun.. some will play to get the achievements. But i personally feel that it will not provide a long term pull for pvpers.. I know the game will not be an esport..But in many games it is the pvpers who spend the most money when they can. so if bliz want the rmah to be more successful .. adding better more interesting pvp modes with some kind of ranking system and some kind of rewards .. that push more people into useing them .. lets say there is a devision system that works based not on total winns or losses but ..sya we start out at division 12 .. and to get to devision 11 i have to win a several games in a block of games.. and if i get to 11 and lose several games i move back down ..no permanent point system. so you are working your way up based off your skills and the luck of who you get matched against.. now with this system you are always open to teaming up with people who are close to your division .. so if you are in devision two and your fiughting someone and he is really good .. you can contact him after and team up with him to own if he thinks your good too ..and you can build teams fluidly ..and as you get into higher ranks the balance comes from everyone knowing how to use their skills and what works best. as far as rewards go as you get into the more advanced ranks.. players can drop different kinds of loot randomly ..or games can give points that can be used to buy pve mats..runes and gems ..but not gear .. |
With currency and an auction house, anything tradeable can be converted into some fraction of anything else that is tradeable. So runes & gems = gear.
While I can see you have very good intentions, I don't see how they could justify awarding actual game items for PvP wins when there's no way to tell whether those wins were due to player skill, purchased gear, exploitation of unbalanced skills, or some mix of the three. |
The same problem exists with rankings. When wins can result from several factors unrelated to player skill, what does a ranking tell you about someone? Is this week's #1 player actually that good, or did he or she just buy gear and cheese his or her way to the top with well-known skill exploits? There will be no way to know, which makes the rankings somewhat meaningless.
where does this differ from getting items from pve ..where you most people will be using a combination of all three factors and luck based of random drops.. and like pve a mode of pvp where as you get into harder content mean ..people with better skill/ better gear and more knowledge of not only their skil exploits.. but how to counter your skill exploits ..get more rewards. After i posted this idea I thought.. what if this was a 4v4 but you could not preform teams .. so you are randomly matched with 3 other people and pitted against 4 other people randomly matched ..Such a system though chaotic ..will favor those who can quickly learn to work together. It would also somewhat discourage elitism.. as you might get into division 1 .. but you can be as likely to have the person your fighting against.. on your team the next round .. so being an a tard might work against you . but again as you move up in divisions and you need more skill and willingness to co-operate ..the quality of the random drop increases .. |
right i am suggesting a possible system implemented after launch .. with a system that is random enough ,still quite imbalanced ..and with a lot of luck built in to progression.. so you can't really build an esport out of it .. but you can provide a competitive system with some rewards .. for the large chunk of the player base that wants it.. It is easy enough to balance it so the rewards don't come close to matching the rates of pve.. but its a system that gives people pellets to chew on . |
Will having rankings and ladders actually be meaningful to you when you can't tell who got to the top by being good at the game and who got there through purchased gear and cheesy skill combinations? If they do add it, it won't hurt my experience any, so I'm not really against it. I just don't understand these requests. What will you get from a ranking list that doesn't actually tell you anything consistent about the people on it? I don't get it. |
I don't feel like PvP rewards fits Diablo games. In diablo 1 and 2 PvP divided into 2 parts, the first and the more obvious one was the act of PvP itself, and the other was building your character perfectly for PvP, and I feel like if you get PvP rewards for PvPing it would kill the latter.
That said though, letting hardcore players kill each other for the opponent's gear is perfectly fine. |
I really dont want rewards, just because PvP gear shouldnt be anywhere near as good as PvE gear, so then whats the point?
I want ranking, so you know when Batistab's in the room you lost already... maybe like banner Stuff would be cool, Money i'd take anytime... Gem's could be handy, oh and i'mma gunna need Runes. Just no "Items", Currency only if you add anything. And we need world PvP like duels just so you can test builds. |
I personally am fully against any form of *reward* for pvping. Playing PvP with your friends is reward enough, I however would appreciate and love any form of ranking, stats, ladder etc for PvP.
Just as they put it at BlizzCon so I can say "i'm the ranked ## monk in the diablo world" =) |
Will having rankings and ladders actually be meaningful to you when you can't tell who got to the top by being good at the game and who got there through purchased gear and cheesy skill combinations? the arena system starting out will be pretty good .. but if that is the limit of pvp.. it will not last long if there is little reward..or point when everyone gets a trophy. there need to be some system that seperates people basedd on skill and efort put into gearing up.. I would stay away from a numbered ranking system when you have millions of players possibly in the game.. that would take the casual aspect of the game away.. the Division system I am proposing means that people only advanced based on how they get the mechanic of the game down..and how well they can learn to work with others ..if you are winning games you go into higher divisions.. untill you hit a points where your losing to much and getting knocked back.. as you increase in division you learn how to deal with the cheezy builds or the inbalanced play. then there is the gear issue where past a certain point you will probably be dealing with only people who are able to buy gear off the rmah .. which is why i feel the need for drooping stuff of value you can sell ..to buy the gear you need to stay or get better. Without a reward system for pvp the only people who can get to the top ..are those who spend a lot of money or those who farm inferno endlessly. this will be the problem with arena as it will be your gear that gets you into higher bracket. With a dividion system that only takes into a small number of your previus matches for advancement or dropping back .. it works with both luck and skill.. luck in getting on good teams and what kind of team you face.. and skill enough to contribute to the team |
we are talking about D3 a game where one of the biggest should nevers got thrown out ..
"people should never be allowed to pay real money for in game items" fine the top tiers of pvp ..should be exclusive to those who can farm inferno a lot ..or pay for a full set of premium gear.. i will go back to telling the pvp guy's to shut up about wanting pvp in the main pve game |
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Hey Folks, need a little bit of guidance here. I am planning to install Hardie Plank siding on an addition to my home and there is one area where vertical L flashing intersects with horizontal Z flashing. I would imagine it is installed such that the L flashing is on top of the Z flashing, right? Do I need to caulk the joint between the two flashings?
See the picture below from Hardie's install guide and it pretty much shows my situation, it just doesn't show how the two flashings meet. Any help would be much appreciated! |
I caulk all of my flashing laps. I'd also put a bead on the inside of the brick and set the L into it. Make sure the L laps over the top of the Z.
You might have to bend your L slightly out of square so it's a nice tight fit in the corner. |
Excellent. That was my thinking.
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I use Vulkem or Quad. Make sure to "Blind Caulk" you whant just enough to seal without seeing it.
In this case, wouldn't the caulk be covered by the siding? I know I need to caulk between the siding and the time, but I want to make sure, I should also caulk the seam where the two pieces of flashing meet, right?
Correct and also caulk the flashing seams were the Z overlaps if you have any. |
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Awesome, thanks.
Hey, a related question... From what I have read, I need to install Hardie Trim to prevent Hardie Plank from butting up against brick, right? If that is the case, then this is more of an aesthetics question, really. In the attached image, the yellow represents all the place I think I need Hardie Trim, even though I'd prefer not to use it on the two smaller applications. Is there anything I can do to avoid using it there? If not, the red lines indicate where I don't have to use hardie trim, but might just for looks. What do you think? |
Any ware the siding buts into brick there need to be some trim to butt into. Personally I use a 2x2 cedar, it's something to butt into but not as noticeable as a 2x4 or something. Whatever trim you use against the brick make sure get a lot of caulking in that corner to embed (blind caulk) the trim into. This is one spot were you want to waste some caulking but without making a mess out of it. And make sure your using a polyurethane like Vulkem, not silicone.
Hmm, hadn't thought of using cedar, might be nice to have something smaller than the trim. I will think of that.
When applying the caulk, do you apply it before or after you install the siding? I assumed I would 1) Apply bead of caulk 2) Apply flashing over bead of caulk 3) Apply trim 4) Install siding, leaving 1/8" gap between siding and trim 5) Install bead of caulk in gap left between siding and trim |
With Hard both, #3.5 sould be another bead of caulk from trim to wall. Not everyone does this and might not be necessary in a dry climate but all of my stuff is on the Or. Coast so we take extra steps that you probably wouldnt in Arizona or the like. |
Not sure I understand. Where exactly should I caulk when you say from the trim to the wall? Does that mean caulking OVER the L flashing?
Once the trim is on and your ready to start siding I run a bead down the inside corner of the trim the siding will butt into so if your final face caulking fails (the caulking that gets exposed to the weather) there is extra protection behind that so water can't get behind the trim.
Awesome idea, thanks!
So, you seem to have lots of experience. Are you a fan of the Hardie products? Am I making a good choice here?
Also, obviously the Hardie trim does not come in lengths that will run the full height of my house. Is it better to make the cuts/seams between floors or does it not matter? Going back to the image I posted earlier, would you use trim where I have drawn the red lines or just leave the siding? What will look best? If I install trim there, would the 7 flashing go above or below the trim? Any other suggestions for working with this material or pulling off this job? Thanks!! |
You had to ask me that.
I think Hardi is a good product as far as it won't rot. When it first came out it was the new "builders choice" to replace the old choice which was LP Siding. We all know what happened with LP. I was skeptical at first so I broke off a piece of Hardi and stuck it in a bucket of water. 6 months later it looked the same as when I put it in there. What more can you ask for, it's a good durable product to protect the house. What I don't like about Hardi is that it will show every imperfection on a wall and magnify it. Looks great from the street but get up close put your face against a big wall and look down that and you'll see what I mean. Now this doesn't bother most but that kind of stuff drives me nuts. Also, Hardi's most common panel that everyone stocks is the 8 ¼" for a 7" exposure. They tell you to blind nail it. Any 7" blind nailed Hardi wall you can easily get your fingers under a lap and rip the piece off if you wanted. If I can do that then tell me water can't get through there when it's blowing 80 and raining sideways like it does quite often here. The 6" exposure is much better and the 5" it tight like I'd like to see it. I think properly installed cedar shingles are by far the best protection for a house but of course they cost a lot more than Hardi. If your going to use Hardi I'd think about a 5 or 6" exposure. |
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January 16th, 2009, 04:03 AM #2
Jerry, at least the price was OK...it wasn't that clown trying to sell an N scale ranch house for over $100.
January 16th, 2009, 04:21 AM #3
That's not so bad, a little over a $1 per container.
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I'm glad he won't ship to Australia so I won't be tempted by this one.:tb-biggrin:
I see there is one offer for the docksider but it was rejected, I wonder what the offer was? I have a couple of these that have been in pieces for twenty-five years for a kitbashing project that never got off the ground, If I could find all the parts I could put them up for sale as kits. This isn't unique to Ebay though, I see second hand stuff for sale at shows that wouldn't be worth taking if the sellers were paying me to take it away. You do find the odd bargain or item you've been looking for there or on Ebay sometimes as long as you know what you're looking at. The sad thing is that newcomers who don't may buy these things and give up on trains when that engine they paid 100 bucks for turns out to be a piece of junk.
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Tony,I wouldn't pay a hundred bucks for one of those thing,but I'm looking for a few nice ones.I've been watching them on Ebay for a while,I've seen that old version with that kind of valve gear in that kind of shape go for well over 50 bucks..I might go 45 for that one..Those old metal gear ones run forever,too,they just sound aweful.
January 16th, 2009, 01:30 PM #9
Try this auction I found last night.
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Chris Cwiklinski is Alderman Puente's legislative assistant at City Hall and can be reached at 286-2868.
Chris is a life-long north side resident, a graduate of UW-Milwaukee, and has extensive experience in the Common Council–City Clerk's Office as a legislative assistant.
Prior to joining Alderman Puente, she worked for Common Council members Suzanne Breier from 2000–2004, for Michael J. Murphy (1996–2000) and the late Steven Cullen (1987–1992). She also worked for several council members as an "auxiliary" legislative assistant, filling in as needed for legislative assistants who were out ill or on vacation.
When you call Alderman Puente's office, you will probably connect with Chris. She acts as Alderman Puente's liaison, and when she advocates for your interests with city departments, she does so with the full power and force of the alderman's office. She is prepared and willing to help you in any way possible and will perform most of the follow-up on completing your request. If both the alderman and Chris are unavailable because they are assisting other constituents, you can leave a message that will be returned. The office hours are Monday–Friday, 8 a.m. to 4:45 p.m.
Chris is an auto racing enthusiast and has been organizing and working road racing events at venues such as Road America and Blackhawk Farms (Illinois) for the Milwaukee Region of the Sports Car Club of America since 1977.


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Tamarix articulata
Tamarix articulata | |
Scientific classification | |
Kingdom: | Plantae |
(unranked): | Angiosperms |
(unranked): | Eudicots |
(unranked): | Core eudicots |
Order: | Caryophyllales |
Family: | Tamaricaceae |
Genus: | Tamarix |
Species: | T. articulata |
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Tamarix articulata |
Tamarix articulata, also called farash (Hindi: फराश), is a moderate sized tree with feathery foliage and an erect stem usually attaining a height of 40 feet to 50 feet and girth of 5 to 6 feet. It grows faster than any other species in the arid tract.
The new leaves appear by about May and small pinkish flowers, loosely arranged on slender of spikes appear from June to July and ripen in November-January. The seeds are small and reproduction from seed is fairly good, only if suitable moisture conditions are available. The tree is very hardy and capable of standing extremes of temperature and excessive drought except during its early establishment period. It is frost hardy. It coppices freely and grows readily from cuttings provided good moisture is available in early stages. It does not produce root suckers. It stands saline conditions fairly well.
- R N Kaul (1963): Need for afforestation in the arid zones of India, LA-YAARAN, Vol 13
- R C Ghosh (1977): Hand book on afforestation techniques, Dehradun.
- R K Gupta & Ishwar Prakasah (1975): Environmental analysis of the Thar Desert, Dehradun.
- L R Burdak (1982): Recent advances in desert afforestation, Dehradun


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Artist: Nicki Minaj
Genre: Hip Hop/Rap
As i sit back relax crack jokes for a mintue
I think about the up & comers that could probably get
{Verse 1}
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Article ID: 2295316 - View products that this article applies to. SummaryConsider the following scenario: You have a SharePoint 2010 document library. You have Office Web Apps 2010 installed. On a SharePoint 2010 document library that contains Excel workbooks, the user can choose to 'edit in browser' or 'view in browser'. You open an Excel workbook that contains a circular reference, you are presented with no warning of the possible cause of it failing to render in the browser. There is no error message or warning of the file containing a circular reference. ResolutionThis feature is not available in Excel Web Apps 2010 or Excel Services in Microsoft SharePoint Server 2010. For advanced error handling, utilize the Excel full client. More informationDifferences between using a workbook in the browser and in Excel http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/web-apps-help/differences-between-using-a-workbook-in-the-browser-and-in-excel-HA010369179.aspx How to remove or allow a circular reference (for Microsoft Office Excel 2007) ttp://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/remove-or-allow-a-circular-reference-HP010066243.aspx Note This is a "FAST PUBLISH" article created directly from within the Microsoft support organization. The information contained herein is provided as-is in response to emerging issues. As a result of the speed in making it available, the materials may include typographical errors and may be revised at any time without notice. See Terms of Use
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Kill Sadie
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Kill Sadie | |
Kill Sadie at a Seattle house show:(l-r) Jay, Erin, Bob
Background information | |
Also known as | Killsadie |
Origin | Minneapolis, Minnesota, U.S. |
Genres | Emo, post-hardcore, indie rock, math rock, post-rock, experimental rock |
Years active | 1997–2001 |
Labels | One Percent Records, THD Records, Old Glory Records, Modern Radio, Redwood Records, Satellite City, Dim Mak Records |
Associated acts | These Arms Are Snakes, Minus the Bear, Pretty Girls Make Graves, Jaguar Love, Onalaska, Askeleton, Sharks Keep Moving, My Lai, Locks, 97-Shiki, Unur, THEMES, Chibalo, THE REAL ENEMY, HOPE YOU CHOKE, Flickr |
Past members | Erin Tate, J. Clark, Steve Snere, Patrick Scott, Cory Murchy, Andy Wolff, Rebecca Dunbar, Bruce J Wuollet, Bob Eisenbise, Josh VanLoon, Jason Aronen, Erik Hanson, Knol Tate |
Kill Sadie was a Minneapolis-based post-hardcore band who formed in 1997 and eventually split in 2001 after a large number of line-up changes. It proved to be a launching ground for several influential modern emo, hardcore, and indie musicians, who found larger success in other outfits such as Minus the Bear, Pretty Girls Make Graves and These Arms Are Snakes. Rather than seek popular appeal or radio play, the band adopted the familiar DIY ethic of constant touring. They are often grouped with many of the 80s-90s emo bands such Rites of Spring and Texas Is The Reason although their musical style would probably be better described in reference to the members' subsequent projects.
The band formed in 1997 in the Twin Cities area (Minneapolis/ St. Paul) of Minnesota. An early influence was D.C. band Swiz, who also inspired the font used on early releases. Reminiscent of bands like Fugazi and Drive Like Jehu in work ethic and spirit, they pushed away from the hardcore scene that rooted their sound to experiment with adding sonic presence, electronic beats and sampling, as well as multi-layered vocals.
The band's name was taken from an incident at a party. Founding drummer Erin Tate was informed by his brother Knol (guitarist) that a girl named "Sadie tried to kill [him]." Tate responded that "someone should kill Sadie." The band's name is often broken into two words ("Kill Sadie") though it is just as common for the phrase to be combined into a single word.
They were eventually driven apart not only by moving from Minneapolis to Seattle, but mainly by directions they wanted to take the band, as is evident in the member's later projects.
Musical style[edit]
Always different and fresh, Kill Sadie's sound ranged from soft ethereal jazz to screaming hardcore. The band mixed these two with stark originality and influenced many before they broke up. The smooth watery bass work and almost harp sounding guitar taps were rare to find in hardcore punk bands, a classification that barely describes the band's style. Their closest contemporaries were probably At the Drive-In, Murder City Devils, or on their lighter side Sunny Day Real Estate.
Killsadie's lineup changed several times due to touring and internal conflict.
- Erin Tate - drums (Spring 1997-Fall 2001) now of Onalaska/Askeleton/Minus The Bear
- J. Clark - guitar (Summer 1997-Fall 2001) now of Sharks Keep Moving/Pretty Girls Make Graves/Jaguar Love
- Steve Snere - vocals (Spring 1999-Fall 2001) now of These Arms Are Snakes/Crypts
- Patrick Scott - guitar/vocals (Fall 1999-Fall 2001) My Lai, Solo/DJ/producer/live sound engineer now of Locks/97-Shiki/Unur
- Cory Murchy - bass (Winter 2001-Fall 2001) now of Minus The Bear
- Andy Wolff - roadie/honorary member (Spring 1997 - Spring 2000)
- Rebecca Dunbar - keyboard (Summer 2001-Fall 2001)
- Bruce J Wuollet - guitar (Spring 1999-Fall 1999) THEMES
- Bob Eisenbise - bass (Spring 1997-Fall 2000) now of Blackthorne
- Josh VanLoon - vocals (January 1997-Winter 1998)
- Jason Aronen - vocals (Spring 1997-Fall 1997)went on to sing in THE REAL ENEMY and HOPE YOU CHOKE
- Erik Hanson - guitar (Spring 1997-Summer 1997) Flickr
- Knol Tate - guitar (Spring 1997-Fall 1999) now of Askeleton
- Traitor (album)|Traitor 7"/CD (One Percent Records, 1998)
- Kill Sadie (album)|Kill Sadie EP (THD Records, 1998)
- Half Cocked Concepts 10" (Old Glory Records, 1998)
- In Half Cocked Concepts CD (includes THD 7") (One Percent Records, 1999)
- Split 7" with Brand New Unit (Modern Radio, 2000)
- A New Make 7" (Redwood Records, 2000)
- Experiments in Expectation LP/CD (Dim Mak Records, 2001)
- We're All a Little Sick CD Remixes B-Sides (Satellite City, 2004)
"Their music is a sensory penetrating, electro-fused explosion, with lots of reverb, ambience and hard angled hits. Rooted in its hardcore sound, they experimentally transcend in adding sonic presence, electronic beats and sampling, and multi-layered vocals." - Satellite City
Promo pics[edit]
Erin Tate drums and Cory Murchy bass
Erin Tate drums
Related bands[edit]
- Chibalo - Bob Eisenbise
- Shotgun Monday - Bob Eisenbise
- KT 88 - Bob Eisenbise, J. Clark, BJ Wuollet
- Askeleton - Knol Tate, Erin Tate
- Hidden Chord - Knol Tate
- Minus the Bear - Erin Tate, Cory Murchy
- Onalaska - Erin Tate, Cory Murchy
- These Arms Are Snakes - Erin Tate (appeared on Oxeneers LP), Steve Snere
- Pretty Girls Make Graves - J. Clark
- Jaguar Love - J. Clark (drums)
- My Lai - Patrick Scott
- V.Reverse - Patrick Scott
- Amp 176 - Erik Hanson
- Attention - Erik Hanson
- The Stereo - Erik Hanson, BJ Wuollet
- Animal Chin - BJ Wuollet
- End Transmission - BJ Wuollet (Drums on 1234567890 EP)
External links[edit]
- Killsadie in bands section on Modern Radio
- Kill Sadie - BandToBand.com


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The Keats Brothers, by the Stanford University professor Denise Gigante, is an account of the lives of the English Romantic poet John Keats and his brother George — yet it's also a love story of sorts. In her preface, Gigante advises readers to "prepare for adventure." Although that may sound like overselling, it isn't. Her book, with its transatlantic sweep and epic narrative — including cameos from John James Audubon, Emerson, and more — offers a detailed study of the stunning vicissitudes of the brothers' lives. Even those familiar with the poet's timeline will see it anew through the lens of this intense sibling relationship.
John was the oldest of four siblings (another died in infancy), but it was his vital bond with George, two years his junior, that sustained him and nurtured the poetic work that began to emerge in his teen years. As Gigante notes, until now George Keats has played a peripheral role in biographies of his famous brother, or he has been portrayed as a cruel, self-absorbed figure who, when John needed him most, abandoned him in pursuit of moneymaking in America. The real story, she writes, has "gone unsung."
The Keats children, John, George, Thomas, and Fanny, endured tragedy early on, beginning with their father's death in 1804. (He fell from a horse following a night of carousing.) Only a few weeks later, their mother remarried, then ran off with another man, and eventually gave up her parental responsibilities. She died in 1810.
The year 1818 was one of emotional exhaustion and loss for John — one of the most difficult periods of his brief life. George, along with his new wife, Georgiana, set sail from Liverpool for America; and a few months later, their brother Tom died of tuberculosis — the disease that George would later call the "Family Complaint." As Gigante writes, John had no idea how he would go on "without the ballast of George" to support him as confidant and caretaker. "John's two greatest enemies — distance and disease — were phantoms one could not battle," she writes.
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In fact, George's emigration was fueled by a magnanimous motive: the desire to comfortably support his whole family, including his brother, if needed. He also wished to make a significant mark in life, so that his role as "John's brother" would not be his only legacy.
This story cannot end happily, and indeed it does not. Although John dreamed of someday visiting George and his wife in America, in the winter of 1821 he died of tuberculosis at the age of twenty-five. However much he had fallen headlong "quickly and irreversibly" in love with a flirtatious eighteen-year-old named Fanny Brawne, George was the great love of his life. In any case, John's poverty and ruined health assured that his romance with Fanny was doomed from the start.
The latter half of The Keats Brothers explores George's ambitious but failed business ventures in America. He eventually landed in Louisville, Kentucky, where he became mired in debt from a poorly run sawmill operation, helpless to send money to John. George felt haunted by the knowledge that "his friends back home misread his character" and judged him harshly for not coming to the bedside of his dying brother. He blamed himself for John's death.
Twenty years later, on Christmas Eve, 1841, George too died of tuberculosis. At forty-four years old, he had at one point amassed the considerable wealth he had been seeking for so long — only to be left penniless in the end as the American economy plummeted.
As she unravels the compelling story of John's and George's lives, Gigante easily overturns stereotypes about academics churning out dry prose. She has the descriptive power of a novelist or poet: "Not until the ship was out on the vast expanse of the Atlantic would the liquid element lose its translucence and transform into a dark, fathomless blue." Just as impressive is her empathetic perspective and meticulous research. The Keats Brothers is a major accomplishment, one that will surely influence biographies of Keats yet to come.
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Kasey Chambers and Shane Nicholson, both country stars in their own right, recently released the collaborative album Wreck and Ruin. Helen Clemens/Courtesy of the artist hide caption itoggle caption Helen Clemens/Courtesy of the artist Music Reviews On Record, A Husband And Wife Are 'Familiar Strangers' October 24, 2012 Kasey Chambers and Shane Nicholson are married country stars who seem to live a charmed life. Their new album, however, focuses on the struggle to maintain autonomy in a creative partnership. Listen Loading… 3:43 Playlist Download Embed Embed Close embed modal <iframe src="http://www.npr.org/player/embed/163567118/163578143" width="100%" height="290" frameborder="0" scrolling="no">
Kasey Chambers & Shane Nicholson. Brian Blauser hide caption itoggle caption Brian Blauser Mountain Stage Kasey Chambers And Shane Nicholson On Mountain Stage WVPB July 28, 2010 The Australians are living representatives of the far-reaching influence of American country music. Chambers and Nicholson recently made their first album as a duo, 2008's Rattlin' Bones; they play from it here, in a concert with Chambers' father. Listen Loading… 23:12 Playlist Embed Embed Close embed modal <iframe src="http://www.npr.org/player/embed/113798716/113753669" width="100%" height="290" frameborder="0" scrolling="no">
Studio Sessions Kasey Chambers: 'Wayward Angel' January 16, 2005 The third solo album of singer-songwriter Kasey Chambers debuted at number one in her native Australia. Now, Wayward Angel is out in America and Chambers recently toured the country to promote it. She performs some songs for NPR's Liane Hansen. Listen Loading… Playlist Download Embed Embed Close embed modal <iframe src="http://www.npr.org/player/embed/4283067/4286854" width="100%" height="290" frameborder="0" scrolling="no">
Music Articles Kasey Chambers February 10, 2002 John Ydstie speaks with Australian singer-songwriter Kasey Chambers. Her new CD, Barricades and Brickwalls, will be released in the U.S. on Warner Brothers this Tuesday. Real Media