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Do you wear an apron when you cook?
- kitchensalli Sep 17, 2006 04:39 AM
I just received a new apron as a present from my wonderful Man, and it got me thinking about why I always reach for my apron as the first step when beginning any work in my kitchen. None of my friends use an apron when cooking. Nor does my DH. For me however, it is a very important part of the whole experience.
My Mother always wore an apron and any time we are cooking together it always began with 'where's your apron', or 'here let me get you an apron'. I would happily oblige her, and put on one of the waist-style aprons she had on hand. Never really seeing the point, but doing so, because its how things are done in her kitchen.
Now, years later, with a family of my own, I am always reaching for my apron when beginning a task. The type I wear is a bib-style that goes around the neck and ties around the waist. This is the only style that works for me.
This link show basic 'types' of aprons. Mine is the 'Designer Kitchen Bib'.
How about you? Do you wear an apron and if so – why or why not?
At work, I feel naked and unprepared if I don't have an apron. Bib apron if I'm not wearing a chef coat, bistro apron or bib folded in half if I am.
At home, no apron necessary, but if I'm doing serious cooking, I will tuck a side towel in my beltloop or back pocket. Sometimes I think about getting a nice bistro apron for home, but I haven't yet, so I guess it's not that important. Or maybe I just don't want to feel like I'm at work!
I usually cook in a plain t-shirt and jeans or shorts. I usually only wear an apron when I've got company and I'm doing the last bit of cooking before we can eat. Come to think of it, I always change when I'm done cooking, so an apron isn't necessary.
The exception is when I receive a gift of an apron, and that person is coming over when I am cooking. When that happens I usually make a point of wearing it. I also have a few relatives who, like your Mother, wear an apron as part of their cooking routine.
Interestingly, I will wear a bib apron when I am grilling, and frequently when I go into the garden to gather produce.
re: Non Cognomina
I don't often use aprons, but I buy cheap T shirts by the dozen from a screen printing wholesaler. They are a couple of bucks each, and when they get too many grease stains, I toss them.
re: Bigjim68
i also use that type of t shirt to cover my clothes when cleaning the counter with bleach or using bleach-containing scouring powder.
I mostly do wear an apron, the over-the-head bib style that tie in front...I love my various ones from New Orleans' French market. I never understood the value of the waist-high aprons; they don't protect your chest which is where most splatters or splashes occur but that's the only kind my mother ever had, not that she used them very often.
re: Val
I am convinced those waist ones are only for show or for man cooks. It looks a little unmanly to wear an bib. My husband used to do it and it made me chuckle. Most men tuck the apron inside and tie the waist. From time to time I get a bug and make a waist apron from a pillowcase or a cute flour sack. But when I am really cooking, those remain in the basket.
re: Sal Vanilla
re: Sal Vanilla
my apron looks like it came out of shop class. it's made out of jean-like black material, and is reasonably flame/oil-splash retardant. People cooking with hot oil who aren't using some sort of special clothing are asking for burns. APRONS are a fantastic solution.
re: Val
If all of my mother's bib aprons are dirty, she'll break out a waist-high one (and all of her waist-high aprons are made of checkered gingham or the like - I think she inherited them from HER mother), and tie it over the top of her (rather large) bosom. One of my favorite amusing childhood memories.
I only wear an apron, when I am having company and I am already dressed, but I love wearing it. You have insprired me to get in the habit of wearing aprons. When I put on an apron, I feel like a 50s housewife, in a good way. It makes me want to have on a skirt and high heels. HA
I used to work at starbucks, I have a couple of the thin, green starbucks aprons, that is what I wear, I don't like the bulky ones that are the so called "nice" ones.
re: waitress
I snagged one, too! I also received a black one with white lettering. So I have 2 to commemorate my barista days.
99.9% of the time I wear a bib apron when cooking. I don't care what I am wearing when I cook, casual or dressy, I don't want spatters on it. I guess I got in the habit in foods classes in college when we all wore lab coats to cook in. I have a number of bib types easily at hand and don't feel quite right without one of them on.
I have some cute bib aprons that I wear when I have company. I used to plan what to wear when entertaining..nothing with long sleeves, loose sleeves, fussy detail that might catch food. Then I thought, why not cover something plain with an apron?? So in the last year or so, I've been wearing short sleeved knit somethings overlaid by a bib apron. My two current favorites are my catstudio America Cooks embroidered apron and my very detailed map of Michigan which I bought on vacation this summer. Hmmm...I feel another collection starting!
It really depends on what I'm cooking on whether I use an apron or not.
I have three (the fisheman gag print, Tabasco's, and a butcher's apron) and they see moderate use. If I'm grilling or 'queing out back, I'll wear the fisherman. Grease and smoke seem to really like it and I'd rather it grabs those two particles than my shirts or jeans. The Tabasco apron is getting too small (whoever designed the ties didn't cook!) so it's seeing less and less action but it was my general use apron. The butcher's apron (serviceable white with pockets) is now my go-to apron if I'm cooking with tomatoes, frying something, making gravy, or baking. I have an AWEFUL time getting tomato and grease out of my shirts so if I guess that there's even a remote chance I'm going to get splattered, on goes the apron.
My Sainted Mother(tm) was very much like your mom; aprons were simply part of the ritualized procedure. You could always tell when she was going to start a meal (didn't matter which -- breakfast, lunch or dinner) because she'd reach into her apron covey and pull out one of the two dozen she used.
When I am working in a commercial kitchen or food production plant I wear a chefs coat and pants or a bib apron / v-neck tux apron, head covering of some sort and preferably a bandana to keep the sweat out of my eyes (my fav has chili peppers on it.) With a chefs coat I also like to wear a waist apron. Either way I have two or three side towels, the one on my right for wiping wet stuff and drying my hands, and one or two on my left for hot stuff. (You don't want to grab something hot with a wet towel or you get real bad steam burns.)
At home I only wear an apron when I am cooking under pressure for company, a holiday, or prepping for a large party and am pressed for time. Then I wear a waist apron with side towels.
When I am cooking for therapy / fun and am relaxed, I don't wear an apron, usually a t-shirt and sweatpants or shorts.
re: TexasToast
Is this law written down somewhere, or just carved in stone? I would think this was a matter of personal taste, but I certainly wouldn't want to do a no-no!
re: Leslieville
Ipse Dixit.
re: TexasToast
I am so clumsy that I have often considered switching my always-worn apron for a HazMat suit.
re: Snackish
Ha Ha - Good one Snackish! HazMat suit - that would apply to me as well!
re: TexasToast
Very important addition to your list, TT:
3) While naked (especially frying!)
re: chefbeth
especially bacon........
re: TexasToast
How about stir-frying? Even though you aren't using a lot of oil, it tends to get little splatters everywhere - in particular on good sweaters and shirts. And you are doing it right in front of guests, so usually not in your crappiest old t-shirt.
Just about the only time I put on an apron is when I'm about to chop up a boiled chicken dish. It spatters everywhere because you chop the whole chicken into bite-size pieces with a big Chinese cleaver. People who have never seen this before get really nervous when the cleaver starts flailing. If I didn't wear an apron I'd have to change into fresh clothes.
I have a coat that I kept from my last restaurant job that i wear when I cook. It may look silly many times, but I know that it does help me get into the proper frame of mind, and it has saved more than a few blouses from being irrevocably stained. I keep a side towel over my shoulder at all times when cooking, but that is just a holdover from cooking on the line. I have a few bib and waist aprons, but I didn't remember to tie them on until its too late.
I use an apron if I'm doing anything with flour (because I simply can't resist wiping my hands off on myself) or if I'm already dressed to go out/have people over.
I wear one, I don't like stains on my clothes. Food stains are hard to get out. I don't really own sweats/old t-shirts etc, so I tend to cook in my "nice" clothes. And I want to keep them nice! If I'm not wearing an apron, it means I'm cooking in my pajamas (which definitely happens!)
I haven't worn one in the past. My mother bought me a nice, sleek, plain black one recently so I have tried it out and realized how essential it is; rather than constantly reaching for a dish cloth to wipe my hands, I can just do so on the apron. My messy, hands-on style of cooking is loving it.. :)
I don't own an apron.I wear one when I'm on the kitchen crew at church, but sometimes I tend to get splatters on unprotected parts of my shirt anyway. At home I just put on a big baggy old t-shirt if I think I'm likely to get splattered. Works for me.
re: MuppetGrrl
I have noticed that it's particularly useful while washing dishes. I moved to place with killer water pressure, but that means I can accidentally end up taking a chest-level shower in in whatever is crusted to the bottom of my crock pot. And that's just gross. Apron.
Turns out I cook a lot faster when I'm wearing an apron, also.
Did anyone else's mom wear a housecoat or vest? My grandmother and her sisters all had these vests with snap fronts. They were almost like fancy smocks. But that's what they wore when in the kitchen.
re: MaspethMaven
Oh yeah, all the old ladies wore those!
re: TexasToast
My grandmother still wears one. I've threatened my SO with the possibility of buying one, and he has since mostly stopped teasing me about making a mess of the apron.
re: MaspethMaven
My mom had a smock with front snaps when I was little, yep. We also got waist aprons with cross stitching or applique from all the relatives at Christmas. They were too pretty to wear, who knows whatever happened to them. I don't wear aprons because clearly a bib-style is most useful, but I can't stand the strap around my neck. I think I need to find the smock type the old ladies wore (if they still make them)!
re: Anne H
Anne, I have just joined and read your post.
I am like you can't stand those neck straps on bib aprons. Try this site for pinafore aprons that give good coverage. The ones I like are the Ladies Prairie Apron and the Scalloped Apron. They are good to deal. You may or may not agree wiyh the other fashions but the aprons are great.
To. Winewidow,
Your Mexican apron sounds great. I have been wanting something like that for really messsy jobs. Is there any name on it?
re: Claudette
I find that the strap around my neck gives me a headache. I work at a bakery, and if I am wearing a tee shirt, I have to clip the neck strap to the back of the tee shirt so that it is not rubbing/tugging at my neck. My sister thinks I am sketchy and makes fun of me for that. If the strap goes around the collar of a shirt it does not bother me at all.
So when baking at home I never wear an apron, although I took my moms apron when she passed away. She was always dripping stuff down her front. It is quite sentimental to me.
re: jennaroo
oooh i hate those ones that go around the neck, for me its a half apron or none at all, right now i have a teatowel around my waist, as i don't have an apron..
re: kime
Am I the only one amused that the sell Amish clothing on the internet? ;)
I make my own waist style aprons from cotton dish cloths, I just sew on some tie straps. and double them up. Handy for wiping my hands. I hate the cotton poly blends that most aprons are, and I like these for wiping my hands on.
re: cosmogrrl
re: cosmogrrl
cosmo, you are BRILL
love that idea
re: MaspethMaven
In Italy those are still quite common - yes, very "old lady" but even younger women wear them when cooking or doing heavy-duty housework on hot days.
I have a male friend built like a rugbyman who used to wear one - a bit gender-bending but he also found them very practical, and enjoyed freaking people out a bit.
Yes, they do come in very large sizes (and tiny ones too).
Something like a lab coat or mechanic's coat could also work, if you don't have a hot kitchen. Always make sure long sleeves don't drag near flames and burners.
I have several aprons and never wear them - I just put on an old shirt of my husband's if I'm doing a lot of cooking rather than just making dinner.
I always wear an apron when I cook - bib style for full coverage. Who needs the splatters or assaults by clouds of flour? I don't want to jeopardize my clothes, and it's nice to know that in a pinch I can always wipe my hands across the front of the apron.
Interestingly, there is a generational/gender issue for me: My father bakes bread, and wears a bib-style apron when he does so. I learned about wearing an apron from him, not my mother, who cooks and bakes, but never wears an apron. (She is also a remarkably tidy worker, washing up tools and bowls and wiping off the counter as she goes along.)
When I asked my mother why she never wears an apron, which to me seemed so self-evidently convenient and useful, she said that it must be because her own mother always wore an apron; to my mother apron-wearing seemed dowdy and old-ladyish. She made her decison to cook in what she must have seen as a stylish and modern way - and ironically, I've reverted back.
re: Pumpkinseed
for goodness sakes! I'm 100% more butch with the apron on. get her one from Ikea, they rock.
re: Chowrin
I was interested to see your recent comment, because more than four years have gone by since I posted my original description of generations of apron-wearing (or not) in my family.
In the meantime, there have been some changes: My father passed away two years ago, but he was baking bread almost to the end. After his death, my mother basically stopped cooking altogether. She nukes this or that, she makes herself a little salad now and then, but anything that involves pots and pans has basically disappeared from her radar screen - so the likelihood of her adopting an apron-wearing lifestyle is pretty slim. Her kitchen is even tidier than it was before, as you can imagine. And I have inherited my father's bread-baking aprons, which I enjoy wearing when I cook and bake.
During the week while preparing something for the grill I normally forget. I usually have on T-shirts from Bob's that cost $6 so after a few stains and several weeks in the gym they go in the rag bin anyway.
On weekends when the serious cooking occurs, the apron comes out. My favorite has a bunch of dogs in various cooking poses that my 16-year old bought me for father's day.
I hardly ever wear an apron. I used to not have any but found some adorable ones at Anthropologie. However, I still don't wear one often b/c I just forget. It's never become a habit, but due to some stains on my clothes, it really should.
If it's Saturday and I'm spending most of the day in the kitchen, I'll reach for a bib apron. But I usually don't wear one weeknights, unless company is coming. Favorites are those I've inherited from Mom and Grandma, including several which Grandma embroidered *to keep my arthritic fingers nimble*; a Battenburg lace bib-type that I bought in Germany; and my most recent, a bib apron I received on a Holland America Baltic Sea cruise last month when I took the $29 Culinary Arts Center cooking class with 11 other passengers given by the executive chef of the Pinnacle Grill, Holland's lovely alternative restaurant. The Culinary Arts Center is sponsored by Food & Wine Magazine. The apron is in a light beige with the Arts Center/Food and Wine logo on the bib. Whenever I wear it, I feel like I'm back asea making mushroom rissotto, grilled prawn bruschetta with primavera salsa and Grand Marnier chocolate volcano cake.........yum!!!
re: pilotgirl210
What a wonderful memory of your cruise, PilotGirl!
oh heck yes. if i'm not covered in flour or sprinkled with chopped bits of parsely or smeared with melted butter, then i wasn't cooking with enough gusto. when i say, "i'm into cooking," i really mean it.
I put in some time at a starbucks, so I wear one of my old starbucks aprons, especially if I'm baking.
I never wore aprons and had a lot of grease spattered white t-shirts and blouses as a result (murphy's law dictates that i fry only while wearing white) but my mother recently brought me this great super bib apron pinafore type thing from Mexico and I love it. It actually is more of a pinafore than apron, with a yoke and smocking and big pockets and it buttons in the back and then ties around the waste and a look like a real hausfrau but it certainly saves my clothes!
There are some really nice ones here.. I recently bought the "funky dots".
Mostly for women/girls; guys coming soon apparently. There are some pretty impractical aprons (the short ones, obviously) but my love of fashion is up there with my love of cooking and it's nice to look as good as the food in my kitchen ;)
re: NovoCuisine
Hey, thanks for the link. Canadian site too!
I like the Martini ones.
No, I find that they get in my way. I have grease stained clothes that I just wear on baking day and one more stain does not make a difference!
Sometimes it just the cotton towel on the shoulder if my hands get messy. But a comfortable kitchen apron is very cool :)
You know, it's interesting -- when I'm cooking at my house for just myself or myself and a friend or two, I never wear an apron, I usually just wear an old tank top or something like that. But when I'm cooking at my mom's house for a big family meal (holidays, birthdays, etc.), I always put on my apron. It seems like a festive thing to do for me.
Do I? No.
Should I?
Well, if I did, I wouldn't have so many grease-splatter burns.
And the side/tie/belt is perfect for tucking in a towel to wipe off knives.
Although I have several bib type I don't for some reason. I do however have cooking clothes, T shirts and sweatshirts.
There are only two times I wear an apron.
Day-time and Nite-time. LOL
I wear the full length pinafore styles that give the best protection for splatters etc. I wear plainer ones for cooking and housework but have a few "girly" ones to wear when entertaining friends and I am in the "Donna Reed" mood.
I saw a quote somewhere recently.
"Aprons".... An essential item in every womens' wardrobe.
(True 4 me)
I tried once, but it didn't work. Something about a change of attitude which wasn't altogether healthy, ahem.
- Sean
re: Scrapironchef
unless you are very hairy?
re: Scrapironchef
This thread immediately made me think of Dear Abby's obituary in the NY Times, which started with:
Dear Abby: My wife sleeps in the raw. Then she showers, brushes her teeth and fixes our breakfast — still in the buff. We're newlyweds and there are just the two of us, so I suppose there's really nothing wrong with it. What do you think? — Ed
Dear Ed: It's O.K. with me. But tell her to put on an apron when she's frying bacon.
WoW! Where is this going? I think you should quit while you're
behind!!!! (No pun intended) I thought we were talking about aprons/cooking/housework. Hairy nudes of any variety are not welcome in MY kitchen!!LOL.
Just came across this page.
I wear an apron on a regular basis now. It all started when I was on a farm holiday when I was a young teenager boy when one morning in the milking parlour i stood behind a cow that lifted its tail and you know the rest. I changed my clothes and the farmers wife made me wear a waist apron that wrapped around me from morning to night when on the farm. After a few days she changed the apron to one of hers with a pink and blue pattern which I found embarrasing.
I next wore an apron when I left home for the first time and cooked up a fry, and you guessed it, I made a mess. Next day I bought a butcher style apron and have had an apron(s) ever since.
I always wear an apron when cooking and usually when working around the house. I would wear a bib or waist depending on the mood rather than the job being done. My preference is for extra long and wide with pockets, and generally solid colours although stpipes are ok. I find that type practical protective. Sometimes I forget to take it off when pottering about.
My wifes family call an apron a "pinny" presumably meaning pinafore. She would prefer if I would not answer the door wearing an apron but I do.
I LOVE my apron. When I put it on I mean business, lol.
I have a bib from the 1950's with baby blue pinstripes. It has a dog stitched on the pocket, which is shaped like a doghouse. Above it is stitched "The doghouse... I'm in again." It's very cute... I think it was originally made for a man.
Ebay has a lot of great novelty aprons from the 1950's... some of them are just hilarious!
Only if I am working with something splattery, like frying something or working with viciously bubbling sauce or grilling. That's because when I am cooking I am in cooking casual clothes in my kitchen, clothes I dont mind staining.
I've lost too many shirts to grease splatters (how the heck did that happen?) not to wear an apron when cooking. When I've got lots of time and will be cooking without guest arriving etc I'll just wear an old t-shirt.
A dishcloth always lives in the belt, or over the shoulder. Handles get hot, hands need to be dried.
re: andreas
i love wearing my apron. i have two really cute ones, one of which i made. they are super simple to make and if you are sewing-inclined at ALL they are a fantastic gift that doesn't need sizing. just make sure the pockets are big enough...i made this mistake and it was frustrating!
when i entertain, i always end up cooking well into the party because i have unpunctual friends. wearing the apron helps give me some authority when i am shooing my friends out of the kitchen, where they inevitably mingle!
re: loghia
Yes I know the feeling early guests that arrive when you are still putting the finishing touches to hors d'oeuvres or something. I usally have a clean apron I put on when I hear the first guest arrive. I mostly keep this apron on throughout the night as I am allways plating / serving clearing away as the night progresses.
See link for the hostess apron I wear.
re: RiJaAr
I should definitely use aprons, or at a minimum go upstairs and change clothes but I dont - result is, an awful lot of my clothes have grease splatters. I do keep a towel on my shoulder when in the kitchen however.
re: RJay
If you are looking for a full coverage apron there are a few Christian sites that sell amongst other things pinafore and bib style aprons that give great coverage. I figure, if I am going to wear an apron it needs to protect my dress and as I wear long dresses I need a long apron. Personally, I don't like aprons with a neck strap which you say you want as they tend to hang or pull on my neck so I prefer pinafore style or ones with H or X ties that go over the shoulders. Here are a couple of links, I am sure you will find something suitable at one of them.
Good luck,
I usually don't wear an apron, I end up wiping my hands on my pants.
I saw this last year at a hospital gift shop. I thought it was absolutely horrible and hysterical at the same time.
they arent the most practical but i obsessively buy aprons from anthropolgie. they have gorgeous patterns! i hope my sister reads this, hint, hint!
I often wear my bib style apron when cooking at home. I am broke and have a small wardrobe. Even black Old Navy long sleeve tees have oil stains from NOT wearing one - and that is a problem. On Thanksgiving, I went to my parents home and since I was doing all the cooking, I brought my apron (and good knife and cutting board, because I swear they don't have a decent one of either). My mother thought that me in my apron was the cutest thing ever, and all off a sudden appeared with a waist tie apron, fifties/sixties style...that she said HER Buubbie (grandma) made when she had just gotten married. I can't imagine my Mom ever having worn it (she's a knitter, not a cook!), but I thought the apron itself and the fact that she was so excited to give it me the coolest thing ever.
I used to be in the biz, back of the house, so I have a bunch of the waist-high ones. Gotta say though, the poster who mentioned grease/sauce/etc spatters always being above the waist was right on the money. I don't ususally wear an apron and inevitably wind up regretting it--get splashed/spattered when don't notice it, or need to rush around to find a towel to use as a hot pad (another holdover from resto days) which if I was wearing an apron, would have been tucked into the side of my waistband.
I wear a bib-style only when I'm making something like bread, pie, or pasta - when the flour may fly around and get on my clothes. I have a couple small vintage waist aprons with ribbon ties for those Donna Reed moments. But - no pearls to wear with them!
When I was growing up my dad had a cafeteria. Kitchen folks all wore bib aprons, nice heavy cotton ones (The dishwashers would actually wear plastic aprons UNDER the cotton ones). I worked in the kitchen there when I was in my first year of college, so I got in the habit of wearing an apron (my mom never wore an apron cooking; my grandma likes those ones that are like sleeveless shirts that button or snap up the front).
At one point they decided to spiff up the operation for catering, so they got a bunch of variously colored aprons, and had a few of them printed with the name of the restaurant. I still have a couple of these, one of the ones with the name on it, and one of the blue ones. I've picked up a few other aprons over the years, but that white one with "GEORGE'S CAFETERIA" across the bib gets the most use.
But I really only wear an apron when I've got on clothes I don't want to take a chance of getting food on, or else when I'm making pie or something, because otherwise I have a really interesting line of flour across my stomach.
Yes; I wear a full, bib apron when doing big, messy cooking or baking projects. For the casual heat-up of leftovers, or a simple lunch or breakfast, no apron.
Absolutely. My apron goes on the minute I get home from work and generally dosn't come off til I go to bed. :)
I am so glad this subject came up. I don't think I could cook without an apron, and aprons have gotten hard to find---I like the old-fashioned bib aprons that cover my whole front and tie in back. As far as I know, NOBODY is selling them retail. Cobbler aprons are available, or the kind with strings around the neck, but that's it. I look for them at estate sales. But here's the thing: when these old "vintage" aprons come up on e-Bay, they get bid up to around $15 apiece, so whoever is making the decision not to market them at retail is making a mistake because you can make one for maybe $2, so the profit margin would be significant. Even an individual who sews and wants to sell on e-Bay could do well with aprons.
re: Querencia
I've found a couple of vintage apron websites you might find helpful (warning, not cheap):
re: MandalayVA
I love those 1940's style ones. The remind me of Edith from All in the Family. (See rickrack site)
re: Querencia
Querencia - You are so right. I have no sewing skills what so ever (true secret - My son actually sews better than I do and will sew on buttons, that have fallen off, for me if I make him a favorite meal). My sis is the sewer in my family (think Martha Stewart). She'll sew for me and that's how I get mine.
Yes, almost always, unless I'm making toast or nuking something. I have the "designer kitchen bib" , too, with pockets that my sis made for me. I love it! It's been repaired twice and I'd send it back to her for a third repair but she'd be appalled that I still have it. (She makes comments about my 20 year old Doc Martin sandals as well).
It's like wearing a uniform and I feel 'ready to work' when I put it on. I was at my sis's house and was going to make dinner. I had selected the recipe, got out the ingredients but couldn't actually 'start' until I borrowed an apron.
Never. I wore one at work for over five years, and sweeping the neck piece over my head was a signal that the day's work was over. What happens in my kitchen is rarely ever *work*, and I need the informality. I have four aprons, all gifts, that rest on a hook on the wall by my stove. I should dust them, I think.
I did buy some frou-frou vintage aprons, gauzy and gorgeous, and turned them into cafe curtains for my kitchen.
re: Popkin
That's how I got the vintage aprons, retro-cuteness. Then I looked at the lavender-colored chiffon, the pink one with the cupcake sewn on its pocket, the black and white one with the goldenrod hem . . . and then I looked at the two cans of whole tomatoes that needed squeezing, and I decided that my daywear was less precious by far. I sacrificed my clothing, to keep the aprons. The boyfriend thinks I am a genius, to have made curtains out of Daddy Knows Best type aprons.
re: onceadaylily
Well then, don't buy the chiffon aprons. Your generic vintage apron is made of common muslin, is printed in some kind of print, has a bib that goes around the neck, has pockets, ties in back, and is a workhorse.
I wear the same style you do. White. People buy me aprons. I guess they feel sorry for me with my utilitarian ones (I have like 10 -all the same). I am amused by the types they select.
My own mom got me one that sez "I am a turkey needing basting". Lord. I wear it when she comes. It pleases her. I also take pictures of me in various aprons to send to the folks who gave them to me. Funny how aprons can yield so much pleasure.
re: Sal Vanilla
Ha. My mother gave me one in royal purple, with an embroidered wine bottle and *very* full glass next to the words, "Wine a little, you'll feel better!". Which either sums up how she feels about cooking, or me. I'll be wearing it in July.
re: onceadaylily
OMG my SIL bought a thing to hang on our wall that sez the same thing. She is always with the wine. I wonder if she is trying to tell us something. I hope we get a new fangled cork remover next.
Wine smooths out all the wrinkles.
re: Sal Vanilla
Invinotheresasister bought me one with rhinestones that says "Domestic Diva". I love it.
re: Sal Vanilla
Got another one from mom for Christmas: "Full Bodied" with a glass of wine below.
Subtle mom. Passive aggression thru gifting.
My SIL got me a rabbit corkscrew. That should help me forget my new apron.
I would like to add that my husband gets mad when I wear my apron to the table. I have not been able to get him to articulate why. Until he does - the apron stays. I am a messy beast.
re: iL Divo
although I do own a few, maybe 4 aprons.
Yep, i wear a bib type.
a Christmas gift ( Thanks Son)
black, cotton and in a sort of waffle weave. Quite heavy .
Simple as my cooking is, it gets very dirty and greasy, that is the apron, not me.
I wouldn't be without it at the stove , which is new by the way:
re: thew
Absolutely. I have three. One completely worthless retro one from the 50's that is cute hanging on my wall, one "bib" style one with big pockets that is black (shows no stains), and another "bib" style one with big pockets that has holly and mistletoe on it for the holidays.
I'm WAY too clumsy to not wear an apron and often think I should wear a bib when I eat, too. LOL.
Don't wear one. I just don't get messy (often) enough to justify wearing one. That and I sort of like the little mess/stain here and there.
It usually depends on what I am cooking (i.e. anything that splatters) or if I am cooking a big meal. I, too, like the bib style with pockets like the OP. I have two favorites. 1st one DH got me with a picture of my dog on the front and an adjustable neck strap. The other one is a Hawaiian print that also has pockets and is reversible.
I haven't worn an apron since I was a kid. Just one more thing to have to wash (and iron, back in the day). I get along perfectly fine without one and have for well over 40 years.
How about hats? I got a nice white linen apron that came with a matching toque blanche. I really loved that outfit. I wonder where it went.
I've worn a backwards baseball hat to keep the perspiration and hair out of the food prep.
I love aprons. I'm in my early 40s, and I think this is fairly unusual for someone my age. I started using them a few years ago. I don't usually need one, but there's something about putting one on that enhances the kitchen experience for me. I have several different pretty prints (not kitchen-y prints, tho) and choose one that fits my mood or my outfit. Oh, and I wear a bib style apron, too.
I think the only time I don't wear an apron in the kitchen is when I am making breakfast for myself (meaning, toast, juice, nothing that has to be "cooked) or when I am just putting things away. Otherwise, I always strap on a full apron as soon as I walk into the ktichen.
An interesting thing happened last week: I made my turkey dinner on Tuesday, and the friend whose house I always go to for T-day carved my turkey (I was busy doing other things, and besides, I didn't want to s****w up carving the bird. She's pretty much a pro doing it.). I offered my friend an apron, and she declined. I can't believe she didn't get splattered with pan juices or otherwise muss up her outfit. Me, the juices would have jumped right out of the roasting pan and aimed right at me, scoring a direct hit.
re: rednails
I wear an apron all the time when cooking. And then sometimes I forget to take it off and wear an apron while eating, which is especially embarassing if we have guests :-). Saves on serviettes, though.
I have a few but rarely use them. Funny my sister knowing that I love to cook (and sew) sent me the cutest box of fabrics with coordinating fabrics and a slug of patterns. Some bib style, half, and then the wrap. I feel I should make some up since i really total my clothes when I cook. I wear a lot of black, so if theres any flour involved look out. But normally I shower and change my attire to get the cooking smells off of me.
I have an apron my girlfriend's mom made me six or seven years ago. I wear it whenever I'm doing something that could endanger my clothes, which usually means sauteeing over medium-high or high heat or pulling a splattering roast out of the oven, but also includes grating beets and whatnot.
My mother always wore and apron and my father on many ocassions (it was always my job to tie the apron around his back). I only wear one wwhen I have company or I am worried about my clothes. I don't know why it isn't habit but usually I am in old clothes after I get home from work.
I don't; I don't even own one. I guess I just learned to cook neat? or I wear schlumpy clothes if I am going to cook messy.
My mom (and her mom) were devoted apron-wearers, and had a collection of aprons that looked like surgical gowns without sleeves, i.e., not over-the head. I vaguely remember my mom deconstructing one to make a pattern so she could make more. My dad wears an apron when he grills or when he carves/slices meat. When they visit, especially for cooking holidays like Thanksgiving, I have to give them old t-shirts to wear over their clothes. "No, I still don't own an apron... here's your t-shirt."
I have an old apron, one of my grandmother's. It is one of my favourites from when I was little. She always wore an apron, sometimes even when just kicking back in the living room. I wore the red and white gingham one with the patch pocket made from an older table cloth. It was my pretty dress! It was meant to be tied at the waist but i tied it up high on my chest and then brought the straps around to the front at the waist, so they crossed in back and the bow was in front. I was tiny and the apron was the perfect size for a dress.
I was a tomboy and hardly ever wore skirts or dresses. When I did, I usually had jeans on underneath, sometimes I had those on backwards, um... Anyway, wearing an apron was when I played dress up and helped gram in the kitchen.
I have several of her old aprons as they are like treasures to me. However, I do not wear an apron when I cook, which is sad because I am a horrible slob. I do, once in a blue moon, put the apron on before washing pots and pans because, wow, total slob with greasy soap bubbles splashing all around.
My little red and white gingham apron hangs in the kitchen for all to see, even though I almost never wear it!
re: chefathome
When I worked in the industry, I would frequently clock out and go about my business with the apron on (and not intentionally). I was once at a late lunch with the boyfriend, seated and eating, before I noticed. At my squawk of consternation, he just laughed, and said, "I thought you wanted to wear it. And you look kind of cute." I have bought groceries, a caulking gun, liquor, pet supplies, and shoes, all while wearing an apron.
re: onceadaylily
That's funny! And your boyfriend is very sweet.
re: onceadaylily
Hilarious!! I have worn on separate occasions a hairnet, lab coat and my ID badges everywhere only to figure it out later when a waiter or clerk addressed me by my full name or pointed at my head sheepishly or called me doc. Very strange.
I love apron! But I don't own one :( Not wearing apron has ruined a few shirts in the past but I still can't get myself to buy one. I don't know why. I think I like the risk of not having one, I have to be more careful in the kitchen.
I can't wait until I get myself to buy one though.
I haven't used an apron in years. This christmas I got a cute bib apron from my MIL, but it's 100 poly, doesn't feel like it would absorb anything and says keep away from flame! LOL! Won't be using that one either. :)
I grab an apron for more elaborate meals, definitely anytime baking with flour.
My favorites are the two my twins were required to make in middle school. I had taken the two boys and a friend to a quilting store to buy the fabric. One son picked out the most GORGEOUS whole-lemons print and the other, well he went with tie-dye nightmare. When they came home with their creations at the end of the semester, I had to do a fair bit of re-sewing (straps were falling off!).
I love the smaller size and fit of these aprons, plus the great memory of boys in the sewing room.
No, but I also don't wear good clothes to cook, and more than I'd do so to garden. I make sure that I'm amply covered if I'm frying, etc, to avoid the ouches that come when wearing shorts, etc
I always wear an apron when I cook now. My hubby had to have the Star Wars one from Williams Sonoma! I fold it down into a half apron when doing everyday things in the kitchen. I tie it at belly-button level. When I am frying or baking, I wear the full apron.
When we moved into our new condo, I noticed all these little holes in my t-shirts. Turns out it was the "rough" edge on our granite countertop that was eating all these little holes into my clothes, so that is another reason why I always wear one.
It just seems much cleaner and you don't end up smelling like the thing you just cooked.
When my hubby sees me in the kitchen wearing it, he looks behind me and says, "aw shucks, you're wearing pants". Maybe a little TMI there. :)
re: ladooShoppe
yes..yes it was
re: ladooShoppe
Clearly you need to wear just the apron at least one time. Fake him out by wearing shoes and... a dicky.
I have several aprons and wear them all the time. When I don't wear them, I end up a mess and ruining clothes. I hate changing into painting or gardening clothes to cook, so an apron it is.
When I don't I regret it later when doing laundry. I am even thinking about getting a chef's jacket. No matter how often you wash your hands, there can still be hairs or whatever stuck to your clothing that can end up in the food, and. aprons only cover so much. I am not a chef, just a home cook, so it's seems a bit pretentious, but if you change your clothes to do other dirty jobs around the house, why not for cooking too?
re: PotatoHouse
Bib aprons are also useful you're eating.
Sur La Table has a nice collection of vintage style aprons:
I always wear an apron when I cook at work to keep my uniform tidy when I have to make trips outside the dept. and also for the sake of sanitation.
I wear a bib apron when I'm cooking or working with the following because, if I don't, I will be wearing it instead of my apron:
Tomato sauce
Hot oil or other fat
I always wear an apron. In fact my husband gets annoyed when I wear it to the table. Why? I don't know. I wear kitchen style usually. I make lots of aprons, but rarely swerve from my soft white cotton version with its little thermometer slot. Everyone else grabs the homemade ones and enjoy selecting and wearing them.
I love the story of your mom. My mom did not wear one.
I see this is an old thread, but I love the topic.
I collect vintage aprons (both full and half) and wear them daily. Very handy...and i think they are cute!
I've lived mostly in tropical countries for the last nine years. I don't wear an apron - I already end up overheated and dripping in sweat as it is. I don't need to add another layer.
Must own (and wear) about 2 dozen aprons. Love them all, but my newest and favorite one is a large black bib type that
reads "Many have eaten here. Few have died." For some
sick reason, I think that's hilarious! Couldn't cook without one
and shouldn't, as I'm a messy, spattering, hand wiping cook who would have no clothes to wear w/o my cover-all. Some
time ago, a friend made me a frilly grand-ma type apron and included a poem about grand-ma's apron and all its uses. Too cute and too real ( using as a pot-holder to set a pie on the window sill and using it to dry tears from a grandchild's
cheek, etc.) +++++on aprons regardless of type
re: alliegator
Right. Like we have strictly differentiated at-home clothes versus out-and-about clothes. I don't wear an apron, but I only have at-home clothes on when I'm cooking, so it really doesn't matter. Plus I wear a lot of loud prints. Stains and spills don't really show up... :)
re: alliegator
I see that you are from a considerably warmer climate than I am, in Montréal!
Though do remember that exposed skin can mean very painful grease burns. And you needn't deep-fry - I've got some of those from stir-frying, with a spoonful of oil.
re: lagatta
Oh, I've got the grease burns. Yup. Only on my hands and lower arms. Despite living in a tropical climate, I'm still covered - my own attitudes towards personal modesty require that. Plus I'm clumsy and I know it. :)
re: LMAshton
Hi LMA, funny, I was responding to alliegator, in Fort Worth, who said she cooked in a tank top and gym shorts. Guess all replies come in turn, so it looked as if I was responding to yours. You don't even want to know how cold it is in Montréal tonight. We haven't had frigid winters for a couple of years until this week - I'm just hoping the cold snap breaks and everything melts, as it did a couple of weeks ago.
re: lagatta
Um, oops? Sorry about that. I'm easily confused? Can we use that as an excuse?
I'm from western Canada. I've lived in really cold places where -40 is pretty normal in winter. I can imagine.
re: lagatta
Yeah, I see you found my location, so it's warm. I'm careful when frying, and do have a few battle wounds! But I also like the freedom of motion. If there's company, I do ditch the workout wear for regular clothes :D
Hope you get a break in your cold snap soon.
re: afridgetoofar
Hahaha! You should just do what I do when I touch up my haircolor: rip a head hole and arm holes in a hefty bag. Voila! You're covered.
re: afridgetoofar
I am comforted by your post. From the time I went out to breakfast this morning to when I got home at 7:00 pm to feed the cat I managed to get food stains on me. I feel better now.
I have insomnia and I like to cook and clean the kitchen if I can't sleep. I put an apron on to protect my nightie. Otherwise I never wear one. I hardly ever mess myself up, but my floors are another story.
Finally I remembered to chime in on this one.
I learned the business from a pretty interesting/quirky guy who was a chef/owner. When he got done cooking dinner, he'd change (very quickly) and go out into the dining room in slacks and a blazer to greet his faithful customers. Often he'd be asked to go back into the kitchen to either prepare a take-home plate for an ill customer or a dessert souffle or something like that. I remember vividly the sight of him with a gorgeous velvet blazer on, working 2-3 pans on the stove at once -- and he *never* got dirty.
35 years later I'm in the kitchen every now and then and don't wear an apron. In our more upscale restaurant, indeed I would cook and prep food in a blazer (Brooks Brothers fabrics come clean at the dry-cleaner no matter *what* you put on 'em, thank God!)
Which leads me to reveal that I am indeed very cavalier about not wearing an apron over my "front-of-house" clothes -- but, unlike my mentor and teacher, and despite his training, I tend to get quite dirty (even if I'm just bartending).
I made myself an apron a couple of years ago, but i prefer a old man's shirt to an apron. It covers better. In the winter, the shirt also provided a little extra warmth. I'm wearing my roomy winter flannel one now a I type.
I know I should, every time, but I forget. Maybe it is a little subconscious payback: now that the kids are older and the DH retired and help with the laundry it's THEIR turn to get the stubborn and preventable stains out!
I confess I did not read many responses to this thread. When I was growing up, my mother used to wear a smock-like outer top, not only when she was cooking, but when she was working around the house, at least that's how I remember it. (I was a child of the late 60s through the 80s when there were still actual housewives.)
I have never worn an apron in the kitchen, but I think I might dig out the "Kiss the Cook" apron. I seems I am getting messier in the kitchen and an apron might be a help.
I didn't read through this entire thread, but I never wear an apron though one hangs on the wall in the kitchen and I just feel it's too nice and pretty to be used. I really should use something because I tend to exit the kitchen quite the mess, but I usually change into more lounge type/old t-shirts and shorts when I'm cooking so it's OK if they get a few hand wipes on them but then again some stains just don't come out even old t shirts you thought you didn't care about like...paprika! Even when making a holiday dinner, I will wait until the last minute to put on anything nicer because I know I'll be a wreck before the night ends. I think a folded over long towel would suit me well or a folded in half apron now that you brought up the topic :)
Yes I have normal aprons as well as a bib one to wear for guests. My favorite is one from El Salavadoe called a shop keepers apron, all the ladys wear them lots of lace and ribbions and a zipper in front{ for the money). Otherwise I have a chef jacket for baking.
Yes, religiously. I'm a messy cook plus weeknights I often walk right in from work and start dinner prep so the apron protects the work garb.
I wear a bib type apron like the picture below although mine are black, from Restaurant Depot. I have 3 because I wash them frequently plus kids sometimes wear them.
I wear cooking shirts instead, regular oxford cloth shirts that have seen better days. I usually wear shorts around the house, and the shirts generally cover the critical areas.
Yes i do but only when im cleaning or cooking!! Makes me feel empowerd and motivated ill wear any type of aprons u give me
I have at least five, all with the bib fronts. But I only wear them when I am cooking all day, like thanksgiving or some other holiday, or if I am dressed nicely, like for a party. Otherwise, I get lazy and don't bother. And I'm pretty sure my 20+ year old chefs coat doesn't fit me anymore ;)
Only if it's messy, like I'm browning a roast about to go into a slow cooker before leaving for work (so dressed professional) or canning jam. Especially red fruit jam! *Bitter for lost favorite shirt.*
re: jmckee
I wear bib aprons daily and consider them a kitchen tool Mostly all my aprons either show fat or tomato spots I wear mine daily and prefer the ones with pockets and with cross ties rather then the neck strap
I don't think anyone's mentioned the cobbler-style apron. I like those because there's no pressure on my neck (I even have a coat I can't wear because of the pressure it puts on the back of my neck). Cobbler aprons are the same front and back. There's usually at least one big pocket in the front. There's a tie on the left and right sides, at waist level.
An easy DIY version would be to cut a head-hole in an old bath towel and add ribbon or cord as ties - or omit the ties entirely. Or if you're tiny, slit an old pillowcase along the lengthwise folds and cut a head-hold/slit on the short seam.
Almost always! I bought a cute bib style one awhile back from Anthropologie that was on sale and I wear it all the time. I don't do well when I get stains on my clothes, even my around-the-house-clothes - it's like a phobia or something.
In fact, I often keep the apron on when I'm eating...kind of like an adult version of a bib. I'm not usually a messy eater but again, it's that phobia of getting my clothes stained. I've been known to wear the apron even when I have friends over - who just have come to accept that I'm a little bit of a nut when it comes to these things.
re: pellegrino31
I do always wear my apron I am a magnet for stains and change daily my apron for a fresh one! I even have one on for eating as well as brushing my teeth with an electric tooth brush I guess aprons are my thing.
I go through phases when I do and times when I don't. I own a million of them (I'm a vintage clothing dealer and I stash the ones I like and keep the ones that aren't quite perfect enough to sell.) It all has to do with if I have ironed them or not! I like to use my Ironrite to do it, it just seems right, but pulling it out of the laundry room is a bit of a project so it doesn't happen as regularly as it should.
I should more often, the man digs it.
I have multiple bib aprons at home but I always forget to wear them.
Particularly timely as last night I was prepping appetizers & adding a final flourish with a little glob of jalapeno aioli from a squeeze bottle... a bit of jalapeno got stuck in the nib and I squeezed hard, hoping to force it out, and I really should've seen it coming, but - POP! off comes the top and there goes the aioli all over my cashmere sweater. GAH.
** Don't blame me for bringing up an 8 year old thread other people already responded**
I actually use the same type apron, however I fold the top/bib portion down and just wear it around my waist to protect my pants. I also prefer to cook shirtless........(obviously when not cooking for guests) I don't know how or why but it seems bacon grease has a GPS for my nipples. I swear to God, I have burned my nipples countless time's while cooking bacon.
re: jrvedivici
The age of a thread doesn't make it uninteresting or irrelevant. I've never understood why people complain about old threads being brought back up- I've noticed some of the same people complaining when new threads are posted instead of the search function being used to find old threads. Some folks just like to complain....
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I have tried to install the following versions of the .NET Framework on various different computers running Windows XP or Windows Server 2003:
In some cases, I have noticed that a folder gets left behind on the root of one of my drives. The folder has a randomly generated name, and it contains a copy of the setup files used to install the .NET Framework.
I do not see this behavior for the .NET Framework 1.0, the .NET Framework 1.1 or the .NET Framework 2.0.
Why is this folder left behind at this location after installing these versions of the .NET Framework? Can I safely delete this folder after I install the .NET Framework?
The installers for the .NET Framework 2.0 and earlier uses a legacy self-extracting EXE technology called IExpress. That technology creates a folder in the %temp% directory named something like IXP000.tmp (it will increment the number if a folder with this naming pattern already exists). Then it extracts the contents of the EXE to that folder and runs the setup EXE from within that folder. After the setup EXE completes, it will attempt to delete that folder.
The installers for the .NET Framework 3.0 and later use a different self-extracting EXE technology, which is why you have observed different behavior depending on what version of the .NET Framework you are trying to install. The self-extracting logic for these versions of the .NET Framework does the following:
One of the prerequisite packages for the .NET Framework 3.0 and higher - the XML Paper Specification (XPS) Shared Components Pack 1.0 - has a problem that causes the randomly named folder that it creates to fail to be deleted in step 5 above. Those files are temporary and only needed during the initial installation of this component, so it is safe to delete this randomly named folder if it ends up getting left behind on your system after .NET Framework installation completes.
I have heard of a few cases where attempting to delete the randomly named folder fails with a permission problem. I am not sure what causes that type of permission problem in the first place, but you will need to manually update the permissions on that folder in order to be able to delete it. Tools such as Cacls or SubInAcl could be useful to update these permissions if you run into this issue.
The XPS component is only installed by the .NET Framework setup package on Windows XP and Windows Server 2003, so the issue where this folder gets left behind at the end of .NET Framework setup will not affect newer operating systems such as Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008 or Windows 7.
<update date="12/21/2009"> Added more specific information about the root cause of this problem (the XPS setup package that is chained in during .NET Framework 3.0 and higher setup on Windows XP and Windows Server 2003). </update>
How can I delete those temp folders automaticly?
I have around 600 servers in me environment so I won't do it manually on each server.
Is is possible do find a way to install .Net Framework 3.5 SP1 and not getting those temp folders.
Hi Blakedue - You would have to write a tool/script to clean up the folders afterwards if you need them to be removed. The folders have randomly generated names, so your tool would need to look for folders at the root of the drive letter with the largest amount of free space, then check inside the folder to see if it is from .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 setup, and if so, delete the files and folder.
If you would like to avoid the folder being created in the first place, you can pre-install the XPS package before running the .NET Framework 3.5 installer. Here are the download locations:
For the x86 XPS package - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=123098
For the x64 XPS package - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=123099
This randomly named folder is also referenced all over the registry... is it safe to delete the folder and leave all registry references to it?
Hi TH - There are a few different cases I know of where temporary files can be left behind like this. What are the exact files that you see listed in your registry, and what locations do they appear at in your registry?
Hi astebner,
So the folder is always randomly named... in one case it is:
then when searching through the reistry this location is referenced in the following keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Updates\Windows Server 2003\SP4\KB954550-v5\Filelist\0
The key is:Location
The value is: d:\09cb04b43b693cd9fa19\update\..\amd64
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Updates\Windows Server 2003\SP4\KB954550-v5\Filelist\1
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Updates\Windows Server 2003\SP4\KB954550-v5\Filelist\10
The value is: d:\09cb04b43b693cd9fa19\update\..\i386
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Updates\Windows Server 2003\SP4\KB954550-v5\Filelist\11
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Updates\Windows Server 2003\SP4\KB954550-v5\Filelist\12
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Updates\Windows Server 2003\SP4\KB954550-v5\Filelist\13
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Updates\Windows Server 2003\SP4\KB954550-v5\Filelist\14
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Updates\Windows Server 2003\SP4\KB954550-v5\Filelist\2
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Updates\Windows Server 2003\SP4\KB954550-v5\Filelist\3
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Updates\Windows Server 2003\SP4\KB954550-v5\Filelist\4
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Updates\Windows Server 2003\SP4\KB954550-v5\Filelist\5
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Updates\Windows Server 2003\SP4\KB954550-v5\Filelist\6
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Updates\Windows Server 2003\SP4\KB954550-v5\Filelist\8
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Updates\Windows Server 2003\SP4\KB954550-v5\Filelist\9
For every server its a different random folder names and then its refenced in these registry keys... Let me know if it would help ou if I supplied the value of the FileName Key in each of the locations above.
what I dont want to do is delete this random folder and have all these entries in the registry still there, referencing a location that I have deleted.... doesnt seem like good practice, especially on a Terminal Server.
The other option I guess is too just run the XPS package before installing .Net 3.5 SP1?
Hi TH - If you want to eliminate these temporary files, I think the cleanest option would be for you to run the XPS installer before installing the .NET Framework 3.5 SP1. If that isn't an option, I believe it would be safe to remove those registry keys in addition to removing the temporary files.
Hi astebner, thank you very much for your assistance... That is the plan then, to run the XPS installer beforehand :)


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