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What is "dinner"?
What doe we mean when we talk about dinner (or supper to some)? For Americans dinner usually is a protein w/some starch and vegetables. In other countries it may mean something totally different.
For example, to a friend of mine, dinner is usually meat, a starch or 2, and a non-green leaf vegetable. When we go eat, say, Korean food for dinner, he gets a little thrown-off. The courses coming at random times, the lack of bread, no dessert befuddles him. I'm interested in learning about other culture's ideas on dinner, what it means, what they eat and drink, how important a meal it is (as opposed to other meals in the day). Please share your knowledge w/me.
There is no real standard, even in the Eurocentric Western world, even in the US, as to what and when "dinner" is, although most of us if asked would assert that what we grew up with is "normal". In some parts of the US it's the main meal of the day, in the evening on weekdays and midday on Sundays; in other parts it's always in the evening or midday. In France and Italy, in my experience, it has been the midday meal that is the main meal of the day, with a light supper often made up of leftovers from that, unless the evening meal is to celebrate an occasion such as a birthday. Then it is likely to be an elaborate meal of multiple courses and a formal structure.
In our fairly poor Midwestern household, in which Dad was usually off working during the day, supper (or dinner) was in the evening on weekdays, midday on Sundays. Weekday lunch was soup or sandwiches for the most part, dinner a meat/veg/potatoes menu. Sunday dinner was often simply a reiteration of weekday suppers, but if some special dish were to be prepared, such as a braise of small game Dad had shot and brought home, Sunday is when it would usually appear. That was also when we were most likely to entertain company, friends or visiting family, and present our favorite dishes (even though they may have been quite plain, such as scalloped potatoes with ham) as special treats.
re: Will Owen
Thanks, Will. What part of the Midwest are you from?
re: cwe502
East central Illinois. Maternal grandfather from a big German Mennonite farm family, grandma of Scottish and English descent; paternal grandpa part-Cherokee and Welsh from Kansas, Welsh-descended grandma ditto. Lots of country-moved-to-smalltown culinary habits. Many families we knew had supper at six sharp, as though it were a requirement; we generally made it by seven. Holiday dinners - TG and Christmas - were typically on the table around two. Sunday dinner could be late, too, given that preparation didn't start until we were home from church.
re: Will Owen
Being from Iowa, Will, I came from one of those families with the time requirement. Not so much for breakfast, but "dinner" was at noon and "supper" was at 5p. You could almost set your watch by it. My dad still prefers eating on that schedule, although now that he is retired (vs. when I was growing up and he always worked 2nd shift), my parents eat their larger meal in the evening rather than mid-day. It wasn't until I went to college that I realized most people ate lunch and dinner rather than dinner and supper. Of course that's also where I learned that most everyone else drank "soda" rather than "pop".
re: cycloneillini
See, the one industrial entity in our town was the Velsicol chemical plant; their afternoon shift change came at 5:00, and that's when the whistle blew. Everybody in town (and for at least five miles around) could hear it, and just about every day worker took that as his or her signal to quit and go home. Give'em an hour to get home and clean up, and there's your six o'clock supper. My dad was a self-employed sign painter and tended to get home a little later, usually after a tavern layover, and after those layovers took over Mom was working, so we generally ate nearer to seven.
For us it was lunch and supper, as I've mentioned, but different families had different habits. But we all drank pop, except for one boy who decided on his own to start calling it "soda". Sixty years on he is still called "Sody".
I am a child of immigrants from the UK who was raised in the US. Growing up, dinner was usually meat/starch/veg (I am including fish in the "meat" category). Sometimes for a quick weekday dinner we would go the breakfast for dinner route and have baked beans and toast (I think you need to be English to appreciate that) or "ethnic" and have tacos. Sundays consisted of a traditional roast meat (roast chicken, pot roast, etc.).
These days in my house, anything goes for dinner. If we had a big lunch it could be as simple as some bread and cheese (with wine!) and we cook a variety of cuisines from around the world that don't follow the old English meat/starch/veg model. I think my lack of variety as a child made me into a chowhound!
Growing up, long long ago, "dinner" [not "supper'] in my family was always the evening meal and was almost always rice accompanied by at least one protein dish of some sort [including fish] plus at least one vegetable dish (leafy greens or otherwise) and often a soup. This held true whether we ate at home or out, except for special meals/occasions when "Chinese Banquet" dishes were served (with no rice till the end with perhaps a plate of fried rice being served, if that). "Supper" was what a late night snack of some sort, if we were hungry, was called.
As I grew up, moved away and into my adulthood, "dinner" is whatever I feel like eating in any combination and with whatever mashup of either ingredients or even different cuisines all at the same time that I might feel like. There is no specific and 'fixed'/invariant expectation of what constitutes 'dinner' like your friend seems to hold on to. Oh, I still do the rice+protein+(leafy)veg thing, but it is not an "expected" thing. Last night I had some fresh fettucine tossed with (warmed over) Rao's Sausage & Mushroom (bottled) sauce, with a side plate of marinated mushrooms+stuffed olives, also some dolmades (heh), as well as a few pieces of Chinese roast duck plus leftover blanched kai lan (or gai lan) drizzled with oyster sauce. :-)
I thought at first this would be a terminology post, and I was all ready with 'my family called meals breakfast, dinner, and supper, but at school they called the midday meal "lunch" so I would refer to breakfast, lunch, and supper, till I became and adult and shifted permanently to breakfast, lunch, and dinner ..."
hah. sorry. To me dinner is any meal that's an actual meal eaten after, say 3 or 4 p.m., but it kind of depends on whether I had lunch or not. If it's like snack plates or junk food or nachos or something I don't consider it "dinner" per se, just eating.
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some English words for a meal have time connotation, some do not.
In some parts of the Empire there used to be something called "elevenses", a mid morning snack.
Breakfast (break the overnight fast) is always the first meal of the day. lunch, luncheon, nuncheon, nooning are or were taken at midday.
Supper is served as the last meal of the day.
Snack is served at any time of the day, but is small and usually cold.
Dinner, like snack, is served at any time. What defines dinner is that it is the main meal of the day. In the olden days, in England and its colonies, this was taken at midday. Some old-fashioned families still have Sunday dinner when they get home from church. but nowadays, most families that still have a main meal of the day do it after everyone gets home form work.
What changed things?
In the eighteenth century it became fashionable for the upper classes who gathered in London during the spring when Parliament met to sit up late at night and party. This was a kind of conspicuous consumption: they could afford the candles. They would breakfast late, have a bite of nuncheon if they desired, have tea served with snacks in the late afternoon, then sit down to dine at an hour that drifted later and later, from 2, to 3, to... until the victorians were sitting down to dinner at 9pm. Just to prove how fashionable they were. Americans who wanted to prove how fashionable they were imitated London.
Working people in the 19th century factories carried "dinner pails" to work if it was too far to go home for the meal and farm families continued to break for the main meal at the middle of the working day. Urban workers usually went home for dinner, then returned to their shops, factories or offices in the afternoon. Supper was the leftovers from dinner. Food didn't keep; waste not want not.
This changed with the shift of the middle classes not only away from farming, but to cities with long commutes.
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Dinner is the last large meal of the day for me. In our youth, dinner was one or two protein dishes, one or two smaller vegetable dishes, a starch (rice possibly with flatbreads) and very rarely a dessert. Holidays of course warranted more courses and an earlier mealtime to allow us time after the meal to digest (and have seconds and thirds).
In my adulthood, dinner can be an elaborate roast or a hearty sandwich, but it's dinner as long as it's meant to satisfy my hunger and be the last food of my day (usually between 6:30 and 8:00 pm). If I have a lighter meal meant to satisfy my immediate hunger around sundown, I call that snack "tea" in English, otherwise I call it "merienda." In other parts of the Anglosphere, folks call the generic evening meal "supper" and their main meal of the day "dinner." This is a dying usage with adherents only using it in my experience in portions of the Upper Midwest and upperclass South as well as parts of England.
The meal itself has also changed over time. In merrie olde England it meant meat for those who could afford it. the larger the joint the better. It was served on a platter and carved at table; carving the roast or fowl properly was an admired social skill. America was no different, except that an even larger proporiton of the populaiton could afford meat (chicken was far more expensive,) and the centrality of a large piece of meat continued into the early twentieth century. For those who could afford it. Everything else (fish, meat stews) was a side dish or a first course. Do remember that almost everyone ate at table with a lot of other people. Upscale households had servants, so they ate the leftovers. Farm families had farmhands as well as lots of children. And single people working in the cities lived and ate in boarding houses. The typical cook was cooking for a large group. So putting a joint of beef and two ducks on the table for dinner was not as as absurd as it sounds to us. Any leftovers were chopped in hash or kedgaree or the like and served for supper or breakfast.
The history of how that changed to our more varied modern diet is interesting, but there are a lot of wonderful food histories out there that you can look forward to reading. Whole delightful books on the changing American diet.
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Evan Jones, "American Food". A classic that just about can't be beat. "James Beard's American Cookery" is a worthy companion to that. Whereas the Jones book is a history with recipes, Beard's is a cookbook with copious historical information. John Egerton's "Southern Food" is much like Jones's, with a narrower but deeper focus. And all of them are great fun to read.
Well, it's a social construct.
If we wish to be old-fashioned in an anthropological sense, it usually meant a staple starch (wheat, rye, barley or oats in western Eurasia and northern Africa, millet and starchy roots in sub-Saharan Africa, rice or wheat or millet in southern and eastern Eurasia, maize or potatoes and other starchy roots in the Americas), in a variety of forms (porridges & gruels, breads, etc.), supplemented with odd bits and often extended by broths and other flavored liquids.
My favorite aspect of dinner is that it has no required tasks to follow or spoil it (save washing dishes). This means that dinner is usually the most well orchestrated meal of a typical day. All of the food cultures I admire take dinner as an opportunity to unwind, socialize, eat slow, eat numerous small dishes and not stuff yourself. I love the idea of an aperitif or appetizer, slowly transitioning into a formalized sit down affair that evolves into hearty conversation. No one is going back to work, no one is fueling up to work in the mines. Everyone is there to enjoy the food and the company.
Thanks to all who've replied. Some interesting thoughts and I always find it fascinating what are other people's takes on things I take for granted (consider "normal").
It all makes me wonder about specifically what people are eating for dinner. Will and mels posts got me thinking about what exactly different cultures eat at those meals. I am very familiar with what most American eat and the course structure, ditto French and Italian.
I'd love to hear from anyone who knows about, say, what Laotians eat for dinner and if there is a course structure. Or Germans or Senegalese or Danes or Uzbeks...anyone. Thanks.
re: cwe502
I described the dinner I had in my family (Overseas Chinese) above.
Some links:
The main Wiki article on 'meal'
has within the 'External Links' section the 'National' subsection which has links to articles on many cuisines you are wondering about such as Lao (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laotian_...).
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What a treasure trove of information. Thank you!


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How Hugh Howey Could Have Done It Betterby: Penny
I'm not a huge fan of people who want to dismiss self-publishing as the poor man's way onto a bookshelf. I care even less for those people who would take advantage of authors seeking to get their books published. When mega-success and self-publishing icon, Hugh Howey, called out a woman he met at WorldCon in a very public (he put it out on his blog) and pretty angry way (read it for yourself) you could hear a collective gasp from fans and industry people who have admired Hugh and his diligent climb to fame. So here's my thing. I don't know whether Hugh is a misogynist or if he's just really pissed off. Look, there are days when I feel like ranting on this blog about misdeeds, people taken advantage of. Candidly, it makes me sick. But when you create a blog post that's got such a hateful bite to it that no one really pays much mind to the person in question, but rather questions the author of the blog, you've missed the point you were trying to make.
There was an article I read last week (and forgive me, I read so much these days I can't recall where it was from) and in it they talked about the lack of decorum online. I think that there is a time and a place for a rant but even then unless the person in question is stealing money from the elderly, killing puppies or selling kids into slavery, I'm not sure hateful banter really has a place. The point is that if you've been in self-publishing longer than a day, you know that there are and will always be folks who hate it. People who think that only low-lifes publish their own books. There will also be people (and often these are the same folks) who will take money from authors, make big promises and deliver nothing. It's heartbreaking and dishonest and it happens all the time.
Instead of making this hate-rant on his blog, I wish Hugh had used the considerable platform he has to call this person out – or challenge her to explain herself. People look up to someone like Hugh Howey, and being in that position gives him the best possible opportunity to help, rather than hurt, the market. Unfortunately now he just looks like an angry author with an ax to grind. A colleague said to me, "but if this had been about a man, no one would say anything." I tend to disagree, and although Salon.com called him a misogynist, the point isn't really if he hates women, the point is that when you're given the gift of such access to so many people, you should be careful how you use it.
Haters are gonna hate, but it doesn't mean you have to be one of them.
I was one of the people shocked and very dismayed by the tone of Howey's rant, but I think the lesson goes even further.
Howey apologized to the people he hurt and removed his column. Prior to that, some very ugly words were unleashed in his defense by people who had their own hate-filled agendas. Their words — even more offensive than his — are a matter of public record now, and he and his book are associated with them.
Maybe there is something to be said for a skilled professional in charge of vetting a writer's public releases after all. Howey could've really used a tight rein.
Penny, shame on you for piling on.
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- Happily SurprisedIcelandiaDined on 8/8/2014On our way to Maine, we needed a dinner spot and chose Cedar Street Grille based on Open Table's diners' recommendations. We were delighted to discover this wonderful eatery and plan to return as soon as we have a reason to head toward Sturbridge again. We live in Greater Hartford, so this is an hour's drive for us, but well worth it. The fried chicken, which my husband ordered, was outstanding, and I plan to order it next time we go even though my fish dish was superb. Vegetables were perfectly cooked, and the entire meal was delicious. The service was excellent--just the right level of attentiveness and privacy--and although we were too satiated to order dessert, I might just have to leave room for it next time we go.Special Features:
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"I went on Nancy Grace last night expecting to discuss Warrior the man. Had I known the only topic discussed would be steroids I would not have participated. At the time I was also unaware of the list that was shown to the viewing audience. To imply that all of the wrestlers on that list died from steroids was wrong and for that they owe the families an apology. Again, my only intention was to discuss Warrior the man and share some stories about how dedicated he was to the wrestling business. I am saddened that was not what happened and my thoughts remain with his family." - Diamond Dallas Page discusses Nancy Grace interview
April 10, 2014
"He seemed good, he seemed happy for sure. I had a sense his health wasn't great. He seemed a little frail. He seemed a little less indestructible than he used to be. I don't think it would be a surprise to know he took steroids for a long time and I don't know if he ever stopped." - Bret Hart discusses steroid use by the Ultimate Warrior
April 10, 2014
A Twitter post from Trent Baretta, where the former WWE star joked about spending money on steroids.
March 15, 2014
"I don't know anything about [Bobby] Lashley. Lashley just looks very synthetic to me. That's just my opinion and I could be completely wrong, and if I am, I apologize to him and his family. No, I don't apologize to him and his family. God bless him! (laughs). If he's clean, Jesus man, you're absolutely phenomenal, a physical specimen. But you look at him. Lashley, it would be hard to believe a guy with that muscle structure is clean."
May 12, 2009
WWE wanted to create a buzz for Rosa Mendes and the upcoming season of Total Divas, and it looks like the company has accomplished that. Fans are talking about the preview clip where Rosa is naked on one of the episodes. She is in a hotel room, and Natalya Neidhart walks in on her. Obviously, the network won't be showing her fully nude, but it's enough to pique interest in the show.
September 5, 2014
In a rather interesting and bizarre bit of news, Natalya Neidhart is being sued by a prisoner in the state of Pennsylvania. Christopher Donnelly is alleging that the WWE diva mentally, physically and emotionally abused him from 2005 until 2009. He also claims that Natalya had an abortion during their sexual relationship. Donnelly is attempting to gain $250,000 from the lawsuit.
July 9, 2014
A picture of the daughters of the late Ultimate Warrior in the ring with Paige and Natalya Neidhart during a WWE live event in New Mexico earlier this week.
June 10, 2014
In a sign that she should be called up to the main roster in the near future, Ashley Flair has been given the WWE NXT Women's Championship. She defeated Natalya Neidhart to capture the belt. Management has long praised her athletic ability, and with her father, Ric Flair, coming back to Monday Night Raw soon, WWE could be looking to capitalize on that relationship.
May 30, 2014
One of the ideas that was being tossed around in WWE NXT was to have Natalya Neidhart and Ashley Flair working a high profile match against one another, where Bret Hart and Ric Flair would be in the respective corners of their relatives. However, WWE is unable to come to an agreement with Hart, so there are now rumors that Jim Neidhart could be contacted and utilized in the role.
May 26, 2014
For those of you that do no watch Total Divas on a regular basis, Nikki Bella revealed a secret to Natalya Neidhart this week. Nikki stated that she was once married before. She was in her early 20s and married her high school sweetheart at a courthouse. Nikki stated that Brie Bella was the only other person that knows. John Cena is said to be unaware of the previous marriage.
May 19, 2014
It looks like Layla El will not be the next WWE NXT Women's Champion, as the longtime diva has been eliminated from the tournament to crown a new titleholder. She lost to Natalya Neidhart this week. Rather than allowing Paige to hold both this belt and the WWE Divas Championship, management opted to strip her of the title and hold a tournament.
May 2, 2014
A video preview of the upcoming episode of Total Divas, where Tyson Kidd and Natalya Neidhart fight over money. The longtime WWE star wants to loan a lot of money to his sister for a business idea, but his wife has issues with that.
April 25, 2014
One of the big themes of Total Divas next week will be the financial issues between Tyson Kidd and Natalya Neidhart. Trouble arises when Natalya gets upset with Kidd for loaning money to a woman, who appeared to have been his business agent. WWE is trying to figure out as many ways as possible to manufacturer marital problems on screen for the two.
April 22, 2014
A video of Natalya Neidhart warning Summer Rae on the latest episode of Total Divas about going anywhere near her face. In a previous episode, Summer had injured Natalya's nose with a vicious slap.
April 15, 2014
Since he is still involved with Natalya Neidhart on Total Divas, WWE wants to figure out a way to utilize Tyson Kidd more as a wrestler on Monday Night Raw and Smackdown. Rumors have it that officials are toying around with the idea of a new gimmick for him, even though his current gimmick works just fine. A push might be taking place in the upcoming weeks.
April 11, 2014
If you're in New Orleans this week for Wrestlemania 30, you have a chance to party with the cast of Total Divas. Nikki Bella, Brie Bella, Summer Rae, Eva Marie, Natalya Neidhart, Cameron and Naomi Knight are all scheduled to be at the Masquerade night club. The camera crew from E! will be there as well to film footage for an upcoming episode.
April 4, 2014
Since it has generated so much of a buzz on social media and search engines, executives at E! and WWE are quite pleased with the segment on Total Divas where Summer Rae slapped Natalya Neidhart. While it is entirely scripted, the performers were actually able to get a good amount of people wondering if it was a legitimate situation or not.
April 1, 2014
Initially, there was a push backstage in WWE to have AJ Lee defending the belt against Naomi Knight in a straight up match, but for the sake of Total Divas, management opted to just throw as many of the girls into the match as possible. Cameron, Brie Bella, Nikki Bella, Natalya Neidhart, Eva Marie, Summer Rae, Emma, Aksana, Alicia Fox, Rosa Mendes, Layla El and Tamina Snuka are now involved.
March 25, 2014
WWE issued a poll to their fans online to see which of the Total Divas cast members is the most talented. Natalya Neidhart is currently in first place, receiving almost half of the votes. In order, the rest of the votes went to Nikki Bella, Naomi Knight, Brie Bella, Summer Rae, Eva Marie and Cameron. Some are shocked that Eva Marie was not last on the list.
March 23, 2014
With so much mystery surrounding her absence over the last several months, Layla El has finally made her return to WWE over the weekend at a live event in Waco. She teamed up with Alicia Fox to defeat Natalya Neidhart and Eva Marie in a tag team match. Some were under the belief that she would never be healthy enough to wrestle again, but that has now been proven false.
March 16, 2014
A video of the match between Paige and Sasha Banks during the latest episode of WWE NXT, where Ashley Flair and Natalya Neidhart both ended up being involved.
March 14, 2014
"I really look up to Stephanie McMahon. She is a role model. We went to a school with underprivileged children and she spent four hours talking to all the kids. She is honestly one of the most down to earth people I have ever met. With her background and status, she has a lot of influence and power but she proves that you can never allow fame, money or your position in life to get the best of you. She is a great example of what being a strong and empowered woman looks like. She has a husband, family and does a great job balancing it all." - Natalya Neidhart revealing why she admires Stephanie McMahon
March 14, 2014
With the company souring on AJ Lee because of the CM Punk situation, there are now talks that the Wrestlemania 30 spot will be going to three Total Divas cast member. A triple threat match is being discussed involving Natalya Neidhart, Nikki Bella and Naomi Knight, who should be returning from a severe eye injury in time for the pay per view.
March 12, 2014
Since the second season of Total Divas is about to premiere, WWE will start pushing the performers on that show. There are now even talks that instead of doing a standard title match for AJ Lee at Wrestlemania 30, it will just be a big tag team match featuring Summer Rae, Eva Marie, Cameron, Nikki Bella, Brie Bella and Natalya Neidhart on one side.
March 11, 2014
Prior to becoming a professional wrestler for New Japan and future IWGP Heavyweight Champion, Hiroshi Tanahashi had dreams of becoming a professional baseball player. That was his primary sport in high school.
August 11, 2014
During the early 1990s, Billy Kidman was trained to become a professional wrestler by former WWE star Afa Anoa'i.
July 21, 2014
Yujiro Kushida, who regularly teams up with former TNA star Alex Shelley in New Japan, was mentored by former WWE star Tajiri early on in his career.
July 21, 2014
Prior to becoming known worldwide as a legend in professional wrestling, Bruiser Brody was actually a pretty good football player. He was an all state high school player in Michigan. His talents were so good that he caught the attention of a university in Texas. He parlayed his success in college to an NFL career, doing a brief stint with the Washington Redskins.
May 1, 2014
While he was easily one of the best overall performers during his generation, Tully Blanchard was a bit of a headache backstage. Shortly before he decided to leave WWE, Blanchard ended up failing a drug test because of cocaine, so management had no choice but to fire him. Bobby Heenan had to replace him in the match at Survivor Series 1989.
May 1, 2014
While he does not get featured as much by WWE nowadays, Pedro Morales will forever have a place in company history. The Puerto Rican star was the first guy to have won the WWE title, world tag team championship and the Intercontinental Championship. Morales even held the WWE and tag team championship, which he won with Bob Backlund, at the same time.
April 29, 2014
For a young professional wrestler, being able to work with a big time star could be what helps to spring board your career into the next level. A memorable feud with the legendary Harley Race was how Hercules Hernandez managed to make a name for himself during the territorial days. It was shortly after that feud that he found himself being signed by the NWA.
April 28, 2014
Prior to becoming a star in professional wrestling, Scott Norton was a star in the arm wrestling world. The former WCW star won at least thirty championships, including four national titles. He also traveled overseas for competition, including a life changing one in Japan. Norton also had enough recognition to be cast in Over the Top, a Sylvester Stallone movie about arm wrestling.
April 28, 2014
While he will forever associated with the famous wrestling last name, Ole Anderson is actually not an Anderson at all. His real name is Alan Rogowski. He simply adopted the Ole Anderson name to connect with the audience who were already familiar with Gene Anderson, his story line brother. Another interesting point of interest is that Ole Anderson is a play on the word oleander, a poisonous plant.
April 28, 2014
Back in 2000, the world of professional wrestling was saddened by the death of Masakazu Fukuda. While working a tournament match, Fukuda was hit by a flying elbow drop from Katsuyori Shibata. The blow proved to be fatal, as Fukuda had to be taken to the hospital, where he died a couple of days later. New Japan finished the tournament and dedicated the event in his honor.
April 28, 2014
Prior to becoming a star in WCW, Sid Vicious managed to pull off a pretty amazing feat while working for New Japan. Even though he was an unknown, Vicious was able to convince the promoters in Japan to give him a shot at the legendary Tatsumi Fujinami and the IWGP Heavyweight Championship. He lost, of course, but was able to gain some recognition in the late 1980s by being in the match.
April 27, 2014
For as long as she has been on television, Stephanie McMahon has been a topic of interest for professional wrestling fans. Many WWE fans are quite enamored with her, so it comes as no surprise that her bra size is routinely discussed. During an interview once, Stephanie revealed that she received breast implants and now has a bra size of D cup.
April 24, 2014
Since she has been around WWE for a very long time, wrestling fans have been wondering how old Stephanie McMahon is. She was born on September 24, 1976, which makes her 37 right now. Due to her age and the fact that the kids are getting a little older, Stephanie recently decided to scale back on her responsibilities within WWE. She is no longer in charge of the creative department.
April 22, 2014
The boring gimmick that Lance Storm received while working in WWE was actually a little jab at internet wrestling fans. Many viewed him as a guy that was just too boring to be a star. In actuality, though, Storm has a pretty good personality and a sense of humor backstage. WWE went with the gimmick in order to try to something to see if it would give him momentum.
April 13, 2014
Back when he was a teenager in Mississippi, Kamala was a bit of a thief. He became known in town as a burglar who came from a poor family. The local police did not want to arrest him, so they heavily suggested that he leave town to avoid any further complications. The future WWE star opted to flee to the state of Florida, where he made money by picking fruit.
April 11, 2014
In a little known fact in professional wrestling, Bobby Heenan was originally scheduled to manage Jesse Ventura. Vince McMahon had lured him away from the AWA for that particular role. However, Ventura had blood clots in his lungs, which was due to his stint in the Vietnam War, and was forced to retire as an in ring performer. WWE moved Heenan on to other wrestlers.
April 10, 2014
In one of the more interesting connections in professional wrestling, when Wahoo McDaniel was a teenager in Texas, he was coached in baseball by George Bush, who would go on to become the 41st President of the United States.
April 9, 2014
Even though the truth has been out there for several years now, a lot of wrestling fans are still under the belief that Ole Anderson and Arn Anderson are brothers in real life. They're not. The relationship was created for their on screen characters to help Arn connect with the audience quicker because Ole was already established in the territory.
April 4, 2014
Back during the 1980s, one of the most talked about segment in professional wrestling was when Uncle Elmer got married on national television. It was an actual wedding, as the performer was really wanting to marry his longtime girlfriend. When he approached Vince McMahon about it, the promoter loved the idea and decided to make it a draw for WWE.
April 4, 2014
One of the biggest mysteries in professional wrestling involves Dennis Condrey and his decision to walk away from the Midnight Express. When asked about the situation, Bobby Eaton said that his former tag team partner basically left without saying a word to him for two years. Condrey reportedly did not inform Jim Cornette or the NWA, either.
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The group formed in June 2009 and has grown to more than 350 people who call themselves patriots and continue to increase awareness on issues and group visibility.
"A majority of our group has never been political before," said Pat Tenhulzen.
"People are educating themselves furiously."
Local patriots represent Republicans, Democrats and independents, said Jack Tenhulzen.
"We're not party specific. The issues we talk about cross over party lines," he said.
Voicing on Thursday
The group is emphasizing fiscal responsibility for all governments with a peaceful assembly on tax day, Thursday, April 15, at the corners of Washington Street and Sequim Avenue.
Assemblies, writing letters to politicians and newspapers and holding forums for potential candidates are some ways Concerned Citizens educates people on issues.
"People feel they aren't being responded to," said Bill Paulbitski.
"They, more times than not, get canned responses (from politicians). That's been the genesis for many of us who are unsettled by federal, state and local governments."
"We formed because we are being represented by our 'nonrepresentatives,'" Paulbitski said.
Tea Party movement
National media has drawn attention to the Tea Party Movement, but Concerned Citizens say it isn't one in the same.
"We took a more independent standpoint because we have much more knowledgeable and creative people in the area," Jack Tenhulzen said.
"We're very bottom up. We take central ideas and apply it more specifically to Clallam County."
His wife said the group purposefully keeps a positive demeanor to better educate people rather than turn them away.
During an assembly, she met a teenage boy hanging up 8.5- by 11-inch posters of President Obama's face drawn like a joker.
"Maybe you don't agree but you have to honor the position of president," she said.
He understood and gave the posters to her.
Militants left
"Part of our job is education, lots of conversation and meeting new people," Jack Tenhulzen said.
A few ex-patriots felt the group wasn't asserting itself enough and recommended a more militant approach.
They left the group.
Taxes take center stage in many Concerned Citizens' discussions.
Concerned Citizens of Clallam County rallied at Sequim Avenue and Washington Street last Nov. 14 to speak out on a number of issues. This Thursday, "tax day," they'll assemble to call for more accountable government spending. Sequim Gazette photo by Mike Dashiell
Local issues
"(Our fiscal standing) got to its current state now because of gradual erosion. It's not something that happened overnight," Jack Tenhulzen said.
"People take an active role when it hits their pocket book."
The Tenhulzens believe citizens and small-business owners are the ones taking the hit from irresponsible government spending.
Pat Tenhulzen said many business owners are putting part of their operations and hiring on the shelf because they cannot afford upgrades and restocking due to over-taxation.
"There's no money from the taxpayer for the government. There's also no money for the products people use," she said.
"They can't buy a new car or furniture or whatever. Nothing gets sold."
Taxes deter
Potential builders and business owners are deterred from Clallam County and Sequim because of taxes, too, Paulbitski said.
In a discussion with a prospective builder, he asked, "Why aren't you building a plant here? Is it labor? 'No.' Is it environmental? 'No. It's taxes.'"
Concerned Citizens believes Washington's fiscal trouble is cause for alarm.
"Our state is almost bankrupt. Five years ago, there was $900 million in surplus, and (the state) blew through it," Jack Tenhulzen said.
"The largest employer in Washington is the state of Washington so if it doesn't have the money, then where does it come from?"
Unaffordable living
"Affordable living is very difficult for many in the Sequim area," Pat Tenhulzen said.
Locally, impact fees on new housing starts are an example with nearly 200 starts in 2008 but only 11 in 2009, Jack Tenhulzen said.
Poor dialogue between politicians and constituents is an issue Concerned Citizens wants to rectify.
"It's a struggle in Olympia and more so in Washington, D.C. They talk to each other rather than constituents," Pat Tenhulzen said.
"A lot of them have no idea who their constituents are."
No endorsements yet
"It'd be better if we got closer to the statesmanship of our founding fathers and away from career politicians," her husband said.
Concerned Citizens does endorse candidates but not until after the primary.
They have interviewed five candidates running for U.S. Sen. Patty Murray's seat and intend to host a forum in the near future in Sequim.
"Our residents feel honored that these candidates will come to Sequim," Pat Tenhulzen said.
They've encouraged some potential candidates to run for office, but none have committed yet.
"What we do is sacrifice time away from family and businesses. Some of our opponents see it as a way of life," Paulbitski said.
"It'd be hard to stay objective after such a long time in office. Mr. Smith went (to Washington) and then came back to the farm."
So much concern, so many citizens
Washington state is rife with citizens concerned about all manner of things.
The first 100 of 56,700 Google hits for "Concerned Citizens" and "WA" turned up these groups:
■ Bradford County Concerned Citizens, a Tea Party affiliate
■ Coalition of Concerned Citizens, listed among divorce and custody resources in Seattle
■ Concerned Citizens Against Mike Wojcik, a Rochester city council candidate
■ Concerned Citizens for a Better America in Seattle, which posts billboards with patriotic messages
■ Concerned Citizens for Legal Accountability, formed to investigate allegations of a so-called sex ring in Wenatchee
■ Concerned Citizens for Special Children, of Forks, a group for parents of persons with developmentally disabilities
■ Concerned Citizens for Steilacoom School District, support group for levy
■ Concerned Citizens of Hockinson Neighborhood Association, Clark County
■ Concerned Citizens of Tacoma for Darfur
■ Concerned Citizens, a group for people who live along the North Fork Lewis River near Woodland
■ Concerned Citizens, Port Hadlock, purpose not stated
■ Orchards Concerned Citizens, Vancouver, purpose not stated
■ Concerned Citizens in Action, Washougal, a government-accountability group
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Box 43: Oklahoma State University (1967) - Publications, D-H (1967)
F 1: Oklahoma State University (1967).
Topics include Edmon Low.
F 2: Oklahoma Tax Commission (1967).
Topics include sales tax.
F 3: Oklahoma Today (1967).
F 4: Oklahoma Water Resources Board (1967).
Topics include the Oklahoma Red River water quality proposal. Correspondents include the Oklahoma Water Resources Board (annual report and appraisal report)
F 5: Oratorical Contest (1967).
F 6: Partners of the Alliance (1967).
F 7: Personal, A-D (1967).
Topics include crime. Correspondents include Frank William Boykin.
F 8: Personal, E-J (1967).
Topics include the 90th Congress. Correspondents include James E. Edmondson and J. Herbert Holloman.
F 9: Personal, K-M (1967).
Topics include the University of Oklahoma and University of Oklahoma Press. Correspondents include Savoie Lottinville, Willmoore Kendall and William G. Kerr.
F 10: Personal, N-R (1967).
Correspondents include Julian J. Rothbaum.
F 11: Personal, S-T (1967).
Topics include The American Oxonian.
F 12: Personal, U-Z (1967).
F 13: Petroleum (1967).
F 14: Photographs (1967).
F 15: Pittsburg County Historical Society (1967).
F 16: Powell, Adam C., A-L (1967).
Topics include Adam Clayton Powell. Correspondents include Emanuel Celler and Jonathan B. Bingham.
F 17: Powell, Adam C., M-Z (1967).
Topics include Adam Clayton Powell. Correspondents include Adam Clayton Powell (press release), Robert L. F. Sikes, and Lionel Van Deerlin (press release).
F 18: Powell, Adam C. (1967).
Topics include Adam Clayton Powell.
F 19: Press Releases (1967).
Topics include the United States Department of Health, Education, and Welfare and urbanization.
F 20: Public Broadcasting Act (1967).
F 21: Publications, A (1967).
Topics include the Vietnamese Conflict protest movements, learning disabilities law and legislation, astronautics and aeronautics.
F 22: Publications, A-B (1967).
Topics include guaranteed annual income (pamphlet) and nuclear powers (book). Correspondents include the American Veterans Committee (bulletin).
F 23: Publications, C (1967).
Topics include poverty.
F 24: Publications, D-H (1967).
Topics include industrial relations, war on hunger, economic regionalism, and William F. Buckley.
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Ever since LeBron James left, shit has been weird in South Florida. The mood, at first, was grateful and appreciative. That was nice. Necessary, even. Then we got defiant, and Cocky Heat Fan returned, celebrating in a loud way the return of a roster that we didn't like a whole lot sans LeBron over t ... More >>
The Florida Panthers have been the Miami Heat of sucking for as long as most hockey fans can remember. But alas, it would seem that all that constant sucking has paid off, because the Panthers won the lottery and have earned the right to the first overall pick in the next NHL draft. The Cats weren' ... More >>
In terms of native South Floridians, you could probably count them on one hand. Barely anyone is from here, the rest of us come from frigid northern climes on the eastern seaboard or middle of the country. While South Florida is mostly recognized as being the sixth borough of due to the huge number ... More >>
Maybe it's because it was in the middle of a weekday afternoon. Or there's the fact that the Florida Panthers will likely have a profoundly terrible season this year. Not to mention this is South Florida. And there's little redemption for hockey fans here. A fact clearly on display Monday afterno ... More >>
The New York Rangers haven't been a hip hockey team since Bill Clinton was president.That said, his appearance last night at Madison Square Garden to watch the Rangers take on the Florida Panthers actually makes sense.The Rangers are on a hot streak right now, and beating the Panthers last night ... More >>
ESPN has found a way to put the Florida Panthers at the top of an NHL list -- sort it by the number of prospects that could turn around a franchise in the coming years.The Panthers -- who had the fewest points in the Eastern Conference last season -- took the number-one spot in the ranking, and t ... More >>
uk.eurosport.yahoo.comNathan Horton with the Stanley Cup.It will be the closest the Stanley Cup has been to South Florida since the Florida Panthers' extremely brief NHL championship appearance in 1996: Former Panther Nathan Horton is bringing the premier trophy won this year by the Boston Bruins ... More >>
Panthers/Puck DaddySometimes people make life too complicated. Used to be, if you want to see a hockey game, you paid money and got a seat. Simple.Then we have promotions, where you get a special rate, see a hockey game, and get some free crap thrown in. All in good fun, right? Well, not if the " ... More >>
FlickrDavid Booth: a good reason to cultivate an interest in this year's Panthers team.Back in 2008, when Dale Tallon was still general manager of the Chicago Blackhawks, he might have been able to sell tickets to the team's first practice of the year. But now he's the GM for our Florida Panthers ... More >>
Flickr: van-murphThe Panthers present a much bigger challenge than Tallon had with the Hawks.Last week former Chicago Blackhawks general manager Dale Tallon was hired for the same position by our humble Florida Panthers. Tallon's stock is high, if only because the Hawks team he assembled is now o ... More >>
DeetjenLarry Deetjen, the Deerfield Beach city manager during the turbulent reign of Mayor Al Capellini, got into a fight early on the morning of May 12 in Oak Lawn, Illinois, the suburban Chicago city where Deetjen holds the same title.It all started innocuously enough. Deetjen was watching a ho ... More >>
Flickr: GoalProVokounWhile the National Hockey League takes a break for the Winter Olympics, fans are keeping themselves busy with trade talk, and one of the hottest pieces of gossip involves a cornerstone of the Florida Panthers franchise: goaltender Tomas Vokoun.During these Olympics, Vokoun's ... More >>
flickr.com If this man owns the Rams, it's safe to say there will be no black quarterbacks on that team. Palm Beach's most famous oxycontin addict is trying to purchase the St. Louis Rams, probably the NFL's worst team at the moment. Rush Limbaugh announced today that he is teaming ... More >>
Looks like the Panthers like playing in front of big crowds. In Helsinki, they won their opening game of the season against the Chicago Blackhawks, a team that's a fashionable pick to win the Stanley Cup.David Booth overcame the Juice jinx, scoring the tying goal with less than three minutes left ... More >>
Photo by bruceddyckThe Joe Zada story had been inching along until a lawsuit filed last week by retired NHL star Sergei Fedorov gave it some celebrity juice. The former All-Star forward for the Detroit Red Wings accused Zada of screwing him out of a $43 million investment. When he met Fedorov, Za ... More >>
Flickr User: Burns!Will the last Panther fan in South Florida please turn off the lights in the BankAtlantic? Late Friday, star defenseman Jay Bouwmeester was traded to the Calgary Flames for... well... nothing.As a hockey fan who wants to see the team thrive in South Florida, I tried to give manage ... More >>
An investment fund chaired by longtime Republican Congressman and former Vice Presidential Candidate Jack Kemp emerged last week as a potential buyer of the Florida Panthers and their handsome revenue-sharing lease at the BankAtlantic Center. Then this weekend, Kemp died of cancer.So does this mean ... More >>
Most every hockey fan enjoys the clash of a few goons, but imagine how the goons' parents feel. Here's an article about Boca Raton resident Gilles Roy, a project manager for a South Florida construction firm, who can hardly bear to watch his son in action.``Nobody in their right mind who loves their ... More >>
The Panthers look to rise above the Avalanche
In the first minute of the video below, the remarks by Dallas Stars forward Sean Avery that have earned him a six-game suspension by the National Hockey League:Hockey's a sport that needs to generate fan interest in the worst way, a truth that's even more apparent here in South Florida, where the Pa ... More >>
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If youre one of the first 100 guests at the Scoop on Poop exhibit at Zoo Miami (12400 SW 152 St., Miami), youll score a free T-shirt that reads Poop Happens. But dont get it twisted this crappy way to spend a day is full of fun and entertainment. You might have a tough time squeezing it all in. Were talking about the activities, folks. There will be dung beetle races, wild-animal poop tracking, foreign language poop translations, and much more. Youll even get to take a picture with your face coming out of an elephants butt. This 5,000-square-foot traveling exhibition is dropping back on Miami by poopular demand. Its all based on a hit book of the same name by Dr. Wayne Lynch, who loves his crappy job. According to Zoo spokeswoman Cindy Castelblanco, nobodys found corn, cell phones, or remote controls, but everyone will have a chance to dig through fecal samples to see what they come up with. The zoo opens at 9:30 a.m., and Scoop on Poop runs until May 8. Children under two get in free, probably because theyve been providing you with their own traveling poop show for months.
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Donaldson eyes Chelsea scalp
Brentford star Clayton Donaldson has vowed to exploit the poisonous Stamford Bridge atmosphere to humiliate Chelsea in next month's FA Cup fourth-round replay.
Donaldson echoed the sentiments of Bees supporters who taunted the Blues with chants of, "Champions of Europe, you're having a laugh", after going within seven minutes of an astonishing giant-killing act at Griffin Park on Sunday.
And the forward had no doubt his side could complete the job on February 17 in front of Chelsea supporters who have shown no mercy to Benitez since his controversial appointment as interim manager.
"Obviously, the fans are unsettled with the manager," he said.
"They don't really like the manager so anything little thing that goes wrong, they are always on their backs.
"I think that has played a part in their recent results so hopefully we can put that into our advantage and take the positives and unsettle their fans again at their place."
Chelsea lifted the Champions League just eight months ago and there are two divisions and 44 league places between them and npower League One Brentford.
But having watched them throw away an unprecedented five pieces of silverware already this season, Donaldson and his team-mates were anything but overawed.
"We watched all the games leading up to this game," he said. "I felt, if we got our game plan right, we would be able to contain them."
He added: "You couldn't really see that they were European champions.
"We set out to unsettle them. I think we did that and it showed.
"They didn't really create that many chances, which I am very surprised about to be honest, especially with the quality of players they have got.
"We have done our homework on them and we stopped them creating through the middle as well, which is their strong point.
"So I think we have to take some credit out of that."
Donaldson also took confidence about how easily he managed to rattle Ashley Cole, who he was tasked with containing on Sunday.
"He was always mumbling something, always mumbling stuff quietly but I could hear what he was saying," he revealed.
"He was just getting frustrated. He was saying about the forward players not showing and, 'he needs to be there'.
"You could just see straight away that he was getting frustrated - that was a good thing."
The same could be said for all of Chelsea's players.
"You could see how they started the game," Donaldson said. "They didn't really start as fast, they didn't really break us down to be honest.
"Obviously, the pitch wasn't the best so that didn't really help as well. That was for both of us.
"Coming here is a difficult place. We don't really lose many games here. We made it difficult, we are hard to beat.
"For their changing rooms and stuff, it's not the biggest, it's not Stamford Bridge."
And Donaldson could not wait to run out at the home of the faltering European champions, despite ruing a missed opportunity to beat them on Sunday.
He said: "Definitely disappointed to come in with a draw but we have got a great tie away at Stamford Bridge, which we all the boys are looking forward to."


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In St. Louis, we're often quite displeased when a misleading national crime report puts us in one of the top spots. But today, we're going to just embrace our latest achievement in the rankings department, no matter how flawed the methodology may be! St. Louis, ladies and gentlemen, is the No. 1 " ... More >>
El Monstero 212: The Pigocalypse has just sold out its third of six shows at the Pageant. You're out of luck for December 22, 29 and 21 (the actual Pigocalypse, you note). You can still see the most extravagant Pink Floyd tribute this side of Roger Waters' The Wall tour on December 23, 27 and 28. Bu ... More >>
Paul AddottaUpdate, 11/7/11: The December 23rd show is now also sold out. Tickets remain for the 21st and 22nd only. Update, 11/4/11: The first two shows, on December 16th and 17th, are now sold out! Original post follows. The Pink Floyd tribute juggernaut El Monstero has just announced i ... More >>
Paul AddottaThe Pink Floyd tribute juggernaut El Monstero has just announced its annual collection of shows at the Pageant: There will be five this year, on December 16, 17, 21, 22 and 23rd. Tickets are on sale now and cost $25 in advance or $30 day of show -- reserved balcony spots are $35. ... More >>
Paul AddottaIt's T-minus one day until El Monstero's first-ever summer show, and bassist Kevin Gagnepain is still receiving progress reports on what will be the band's biggest ever stage performance on Saturday at Jefferson Barracks Park. It takes about three hours to get him on the phone, an ... More >>
Jon GitchoffIt takes cojones to play a set that, save for one song, draws entirely from Pink Floyd's The Wall -- when Roger Waters himself played the entire album in your town less than two months ago. But the masterminds behind El Monstero, St. Louis' annual December Pink Floyd tribute supe ... More >>
We receive dozens and dozens of local CDs a year at the RFT. Although we review many in our weekly Homespun column, there just isn't space to touch on all of them. To remedy that, here are brief reviews of ten more releases that crossed our desks this fall. The ChalkBoyz Chalk Dirty to Me Be ... More >>
Each year in St. Louis, the official kick-off to the holidays becomes more and more synonymous with the series of shows performed by the local Pink Floyd tribute act El Monstero y Los Masked Avengers. It's a seasonal reunion of sorts for the aging KSHE crowd who grew up with Floyd's haunting psyched ... More >>
B-Sides gets the skinny on El Monstero's Pink Floyd homage and gives our annual list of songs to make those pesky party hangers-on vamoose.
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There were no ticker-tape parades or bands playing when soldiers and sailors returned home from the Korean War almost 60 years ago. The names of their battles — Inchon, Pork Chop Hill — aren't engraved on the public conscience the way D-Day and Midway are.
Though only five years passed between the end of World War II and the start of the Korean Conflict, those who fought in what's been called "The Forgotten War" had a much different experience than "The Greatest Generation."


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ACL injuries have increased 400-percent among teens and adolescents in the last ten years, but it may come as a surprise that they are also on the rise in the baby boomer generation as well.
To make sure patients do not have to pay out-of-pocket to fix the injury, doctors are using a new tool to prove that surgery works in order to continue providing coverage when new health care laws are put in place.
Dr. Mike Maloney says surgery gets patients back to near-normal, but healthcare reform may change whether it is covered by insurance. Doctors will soon need to prove the knee surgery helps in order to get the coverage.
"There's a huge challenge that a lot of the procedures we do have not gone through that rigor and therefore, third party payers may say, 'we're not going to pay for them anymore,'" said Dr. Michael Maloney, an orthopedic surgeon at the University of Rochester Medical Center.
That is why doctors have developed the GAITRite system-a 26-foot carpet that contains sensors to assess a person's gait after an injury and then again after surgery to show how patients are doing.
"We will have seen that their gait has been restored to what we consider normal and safe and allow them to progress," said Maloney.
The system also identifies those who are not recovering well. While it is beneficial for patients to see their progress, it is really a way to curb potential problems with insurance coverage when new healthcare laws go into effect.
A few months ago, Chris Spinelli had ACL surgery after damaging his knee during a soccer game. Spinelli says another player ran into him and hit his knee at a funny, "I just went right down," he says.
The surgery worked well for Chris, but it would not have been possible had he not had insurance, "There's just no way I would have been able to do the surgery and then I'd be like, 'what am I gonna do'?" Chris hopes the research will save people from asking that question in the future.
Of the roughly 200,000 ACL injuries sustained every year, nearly 100,000 are fixed with surgery. The cost can range from $20,000 to $50,000, and is then followed by months of rehab. Doctors say it typically takes six to 12 months after surgery for patients to get back to normal activity.
BACKGROUND: The anterior cruciate ligament, also called the ACL, is located in the middle of the knee and it stops the shin bone (tibia) from sliding in front of the thigh bone (femur). In an ACL injury, there is either a complete or partial tear to the ACL or the ligament has been overstretched; this can happen if someone is hit very hard on the side of the knee, overextends the knee joint, or changes direction quickly while running, turning, or landing from a jump. ACL injuries are often considered sports injuries because ACL tears are linked to sports like basketball, soccer, football, and skiing. (Source: www.nlm.nih.gov)
SIGNS: Some symptoms that may signal an ACL injury include:
* Knee swelling within 6 hours of the injury
* Pain in the injured area, especially when putting weight on it.
* A popping sound at the time of the injury. (Source: www.nlm.nih.gov)
TREATMENT: ACL injuries can be very painful and can prevent people from carrying out their usual activities, especially if they are an athlete. The two main treatment options for this type of injury are rehabilitation therapy or knee surgery. Rehabilitation therapy may involve using a knee brace, exercises to help the knee's range of motion, and muscle strengthening and stability exercises. Sometimes the rehabilitation therapy alone is enough, but depending on the damage to the knee and the individual person's needs, surgery may be necessary. Two common procedures for ACL injuries are arthrocentesis, where a needle is inserted to remove excess fluid from the knee joint which will lower swelling, and surgical reconstruction, where a piece of tendon from another part of the leg is put in place of the ACL. (Source: www.mayoclinic.com)
INSURANCE COVERAGE: Many times treatment for sports injuries are not covered by insurance or are only partially covered, leaving large bills for the patient to pay. Proving the necessity of correcting the injury with surgery or some other form of treatment is key in getting insurance to cover some of the costs. Some universities have even begun to offer insurance coverage for their athletes because of the issues with excessive costs and continued injury. (Source: www.nytimes.com)


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November 27, 2014
Opinions about school districts are everywhere from the grocery store to the gym, but now, the Belvidere school district is setting up the idea shop outside of the School Board meetings.
Vision 100 will debut in Belvidere next month. The twice monthly meeting will give residents a chance to discuss hot district topics from student achievement to overcrowding of Belvidere High School.
A recent survey shows opinion is evenly split on whether to build one mega high school or two smaller high schools. Organizers are excited to give the Belvidere community another outlet to share their ideas.
"The more we can get their input to help round out their programs and develop a consensus to round out at that level, the more we are going to be successful", Vision 100 co-chair Kim Larson said.
The first Vision 100 meeting will take place October 7 from 7 p.m. to 9 p.m. at Belivdere Middle School. The meetings will be held twice a month through December 16.
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Middle-school friends Brandon Summers and Benjamin Weikel started playing out as Helio Sequence in 1999. Layering synthesizers to hover around the latter's expressive percussion and the former's minimalist yet huge guitar sound, early records sounded as though Helio Sequence was an all-electronic band. The outfit's effusive psychedelia was reminiscent of a space-rock Cornelius in a heady mode. In 2004, Summers damaged his vocal cords on tour; as anyone who saw the band during that period can attest, he didn't exactly hold back. And while he learned to channel his force as a performer more productively, he and Weikel, who had recently drummed for Modest Mouse, refined their sound even further. The result has been greater clarity in their songwriting, especially on their latest album, Negotiations. Despite these changes, Helio's electrifying live show remains the same.


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Written by Mineola American News Staff Friday, 04 October 2013 00:00
Four students from Henry Viscardi School at The Viscardi Center in Albertson will have their artwork of digital images with interpretive text displayed at the 2013 Embracing Our Differences outdoor art exhibition celebrating diversity from Oct. 14-27 at Suffolk Community College in Brentwood. Their work will be enlarged into huge panels for the viewing.
Delvin's work, which consists of hands and colors—including a prosthesis—reaching towards the Earth from space, suggests society's struggle to recognize and accept people's differences. Kiara's piece, a contemplative girl with negative words appearing across her face, demonstrates their hurtfulness while Ron's image, picturing the Earth divided into distinct sections inside the pupil of an eye, commentates on the world's inability to live in harmony.
Robert, who created a filmstrip timeline of important U.S. legislation from 1830-present, illustrates how past laws of exclusion—like the Indian Removal Act and Jim Crow laws—have more recently given way to policies of inclusion such as the Americans With Disabilities Act of 1990.
"I felt that this contest would be perfect for my students…it would give them an opportunity to use their Photoshop skills to express themselves," said Linda Reiser, media technology teacher at the center. "Our students face many challenges…and therefore able to produce work that articulated their experiences in a powerful way."
Judged by professional artists and curators, exhibition criteria included artistic excellence, how well the work translated into enlarged outdoor panels and how the designs addressed exhibit themes of living in a diverse community, impact of prejudice and hatred on human dignity, varied people and cultures in the world.


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"Thank you! The cupboards are not only full but overflowing from the generosity of the Town of Oyster Bay community," said Ashley Kruger, one of the youth organizers of a food drive held recently by youth of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Over 1,000 empty brown bags were distributed in Plainview and surrounding areas by youth asking for food donations to benefit the Hicksville Interfaith Nutrition Network (INN) soup kitchen.
Paul G. Regensburg of Plainview was contacted by the White House in an effort to enhance Mrs. Clinton's Millennium event series. These events are a group of interactive presentations designed to inform and educate the American people on the Millennium, past, present, and future. Mr. Regensburg is the North East regional sales manager for Pioneer New Media Technologies. He has been working with President Clinton and the First Lady since January 1999 and supplied Pioneer's high definition flat screen TVs, that provided visual support for the various speakers at these events.
The Plainview PAL third and fourth grade lacrosse team earned their wings this past Sunday with a win over a tough Jericho squad. The score was 4-3 with Greg Lester scoring the winning goal with under two minutes left in the game. Also scoring for the Hawks was Logan Rubinstein who amazed the crowd with two goals.


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