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Bank security guru: Sue your bank for refund
Noted banking security expert Ross Anderson was forced to threaten action in the small claims court before his bank agreed to refund a disputed transaction. Anderson, professor in security engineering at the University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory, who has often appeared as an expert witness for plaintiffs in so-called " …
Suing companies to get what your entitled too, is far too often becoming the quickest and easiest route to getting satisfaction. It shouldn't be like that but it is.
Companies get one phone call and one letter/email from me now, then it's off to court. SOme even go as far as acknowledging the claim and then don't bother entering a defence.
I've won against, Halifax, Natwest, RBS, Ikea, Virgin, and game.
A total waste of everyones time and money.
Waste of time and money?
Sounds as if you're making a nice little earner out of it.
What on earth for?
Is it just me? I've not had that many problems!
Small claims court rocks
I use it, or the threat of it, all the time. Whenever a company screws up, they get three letters from me, first pointing out the problem and asking for whatever it is to be fixed/restitution made/etc, the second chasing it up or answering the company's delaying reply, and the third saying that if the fix doesn't happen within 30 days, either my solicitor will be writing to them (for big things) or I will be taking them to small claims court. At the end of 30 days, they hear from my solicitor or they get the small claims court papers through their door. I have usually had results right there and then. In court (2 times), I win, because my paperwork is always meticulous, and I don't waste the court's time.
Those who spend a year fruitlessly on the phone or writing dozens of letters and getting nowhere but to a nervous breakdown are only allowing themselves to be puppets of companies who want to drag things out until the 'little guy' cracks. As consumer law is so strong in the UK, why not use its power?
Be careful though
Small claims are getting more and more bogged down. Mediation is often enforced on cases where ombudsmen havent been used. This doesnt always go in your favour.
they don't do anything until court action
it's a well known fact that banks won't do anything until you send them court papers, the whole bank charge fiasco proved this. Complaining to the bank itself or even the Financial Ombudsman is a complete was of time.
Mines' the one with the summons in the pocket
Contrast this
I was contacted by my bank, a small rural bank in the US, when one of the tellers noticed a Debit card payment actioned in Florida (about 2000 miles away) to a racecourse bookies. This teller happened to know us and also that neither of us were in Florida or frequented bookies. Bank put an immediate investigation into the debit, money that had already been disbursed from my account was returned by the bank pending the result of the investigation. The investigation resulted in new debit cards for my wife and I, no cost to us, and an explanation that the debit card had been compromised by a security issue at one of our local supermarkets. All done with no intervention on our part.
Not all cats are grey
The banks do sometimes get it right. I was called by my bank regarding some suspicious credit card transactions a few months ago. Card immediately stopped and everything sorted in due course.
Of course, the bank's willingness to act may have had something to do with the fact that several million German credit card details had been stolen in Spain a couple of months earlier. Whatever the reason it was nice to experience that level of vigilance.
The UK has pretty poor consumer protection legislation - the infamous "light touch" of the FSA was all the banks had to worry about for a while. So sometimes the small claims court is the only recourse. It's not what the courts are for, though. Banks and others will stall as long as possible knowing that most people won't take them to court so it's cheaper to sit things out. When they lose it's just a small payout and then business as usual.
Surely it'd be easier...
to agree that neither you or your missus had used your missus's card for a legit transaction with a retailer that you accept you've used?
Maybe it's me, but I smell stale haddock.
Re: possible haddock issue
It's not spelt out in the article or the blog post itself, but in the supporting doc (PDF of letters bouncing back and forward between him and the bank) he does explain why he wasn't willing to sign the second declaration....
"Anderson replied that hotels.com had told it that the details of the NatWest card held by the Andersons were compromised when an auditor for the online hotel booking service lost a laptop."
As interesting as the original story is, what the hell was someone doing with credit card information on a laptop?
But why...
...didn't he sign the second disclaimer?
Re: But why...
Because he couldn't be sure if he / his wife had made it or not. A disputed transaction is one that you are unsure of - particularly as several companies use 3rd parties for card processing. Effectively you say "I'm not sure if I made this or not - I'd need more information to verify the legitimacy of this transaction". The fact that it is usually only disputed in the event of being sure it wasn't your own is irrelevant.
As he wasn't sure if it was legitimate or not he disputed it to try and get more information.
Signing the second form would have meant that he was claiming he definitely didn't make the transaction. If it later turned out that the transaction was legitimate, and processed by a different company, then he would be legally liable for extra things.
You really should read past this article. I've just summarized comment #10 on LightBlueTouchpaper
Bit risky...
...to sign something saying you definitely didn't do something, if you're not 100% certain you didn't. If I see a payment to a company name I don't recognise on my statements, my first thought is usually "OK, what have I recently bought for that amount from a supplier who might be using a third party to process their payments?" Which is fine if (as has always been the case so far) the amount is one you do recognise, and if another payment for said amount hasn't already been taken by the company name you were expecting to see on the statement.
Now what happens if this is a payment for something you bought ages ago on a "buy now pay at some point in the future when you've forgotten that you hadn't already paid for it" scheme, or for something where the amount taken is variable? Can you be absolutely certain, to the point of being willing to sign something which could potentially be used against you if the bank thinks you're trying to defraud them, that you DIDN'T authorise that unknown payment?
So no, I don't actually think it's unreasonable of him to refuse to sign that disclaimer - it's one thing to go on record as saying you genuinely don't recognise a payment that you're disputing, it's quite another thing to go on record as saying it definitely has nothing to do with you.
His blog has the answer
I quote:
"the 2nd declaration requires you to categorically state that you did not make the transaction.
Since Ross was unable to ascertain that neither he nor his wife definitely didn't make the transaction (since some firms don't appear under their own name on your CC bill,) if he signed it and it turned out that either of them had in fact made a genuine purchase, then he'd be signing a false declaration, with any repercussions associated with such an act.
Put simply Ross didn't have enough information to categorically sign it truthfully - indeed, he asked for paperwork to determine exactly where the transaction took place (which was not forthcoming,) to determine it."
This is sound advice. Don't call; it's faster and less aggravating to write a (polite) letter and if you want to be really sure, fax it and send it, noting you did both on the letter (and the fax, obviously). Keep the fax receipt, it's your proof of delivery. No dice? Small claims court. Just be sure you have a leg to stand on -- which often enough isn't the case. Have you read the Ts&Cs lately?
The sad thing is that banks have made themselves indispensible so like the proverbial at&t, they don't care, they don't have to care, they have your money already anyway.
Bravo Ross Anderson!
Nat West's current slogan is "Helpful Banking", but what they really mean is "helping themselves to our money"!
Thats not what their slogan really means
"helping ourselves to your money" is the current definition of the word "Banking"
It must be getting on 20 years?
Since Viz parodied their ad as "Gnat West: The Bank that likes to say Fuck Off". No change there then, really.
Or as we say here in Aust.
"Which bank? Every bloody bank!"
(In reference to the old "Which Bank? The Commonwealth Bank" ad campeign of decades yore.)
Re : Or as we say here in Aust
I didn't think you were allowed to say "bloody" in Oz anymore - at least not on the internet
Still think the simplest solution is a change in the law to make the banks do the work.
You dispute the transaction, the bank has to pay up within 7 days unless it can provide proof of your authorisation. Then, if you still dispute it, it moves to a 3rd party arbiter, and then on to the courts. But at all times, it is up to the bank to prove (beyond reasonable doubt) that it was you who authorised it.
Bad business model
Anytime a company seeks to include in their business model policies that include profits from transactions that in reality are fraudulent, incorrect, or simply based on customers not following up properly to dispute, is simply bad business. If there's a mistake, and a transaction should be refunded/reversed, there should NEVER be a case when the customer is put in a backward position, where they might "give up trying" before receiving a just and due refund under the guise the customer's failure to complete the process is a profit for the company.
Prompt customer service earns customers which churn profit. Bad press because your customers are suing you for refunds you have to give them anyway because you've been sneaky and counted that as profit (and then shareholders who in turn also sue for misrepresentation of profit), is a money looser.
I don't understand
why companies feel the need to give bad service in the first place. Good customer service isn't rocket science.
Occasionally we might have a glitch on our site that causes a customer to get double-billed or incorrectly billed or something similar. The customer rings up, points out the error, and the staff member on the phone can bring up the suspect transaction on the system, see straight away that something's amiss, and refund the extra money with two mouse clicks while the customer is still on the phone. 5 more seconds to apologise for the problem, log it for recurrence-prevention, job done. If we spot the problem first, we fix it, then ring up the customer to explain what has happened and what they'll see on their bank statement as a result.
So we've had very few dissatisfied customers (admittedly there are some people you just can't please - I'm sure we all know about the customer from hell!) and quite a lot of referrals from existing customers who were impressed enough by our quality of service to put other people on to us. The little bit of extra effort pays for itself many times over. What is it about this simple principle that so many companies don't get?
Unfortunately ... he is right
Most organisations seem to take the three steps approach in escalating a complaint.
But it tends not to be good practice for the organisation or the complainant.
Staff tend to do jolly well out of it though (why do a job once when you can do it three times and look three times more stressed and three time busier?)
They have now closed his account??
Wouldn't that be the usual action by Banks?
@But why...
1, It's not your job to prove yourself innocent.
2, it probably also means you accept the bank's process to resolve matters. Which could take years or mean you have to agree to whatever the bank says.
@But why...
"1, It's not your job to prove yourself innocent."
Yes it is. Had a NIP for speeding recently?
Dont worry about the terms and conditions
Most of the terms and conditions are meaningless.
If the term is either contradicted by law, or the term is deemed unfair, as per the unfair terms in consumer contracts 2000, then the term does not stand. Note that the unfair terms regulations don't apply to the core parts of the agreement - hence the entire argument that bank fees were part of the exchange for service and therefore a core part of your banking agreement.
I strongly recommend that every consumer familiarise themselves with the sale of goods acts (there have been several updates with various but similar names), the distance selling act, the trade descriptions act and the unfair terms act before embarking on any complaints process - its good to know where you stand!
Not beyond reasonable doubt
Just a note for the above fellow AC - banking transactions and relationships with your bank are civil matters - therefore the courts rule "on the balance of probabilities" not beyond reasonable doubt as is applied in criminal cases.
Different in Canada
My bank (Royal Bank of Canada) remains alert and takes the initiative.
Last year I ordered a couple of pretty rare CDs via CDandLP.com, paying online with my CC. Within hours, the bank called to verify that the transaction was valid.
And earlier this year, they called again to tell me my debit card had been compromised, that they'd blocked a fraudulent transaction on my account, and to please come in to get a new card.
I have no complaints.
Sounds like British banks are run by thieves.
[The compromise was apparently a bogus keypad that was capturing numbers and passwords. Many people were affected; the lines for new cards were long when I went in; and they had five tellers assigned to handling that job that day.]
Been there
Having sued my bank in the small claims court (and won) there are a few things worthy of note.
1) You can file a claim online for small enough claims. It is really quick and simple.
2) Changing banks in the UK is ridiculously easy. They are required by law to make it smooth. If your bank is incompetent enough that you have to sue them, punish them further by changing banks. They are required to transfer all your direct debits and direct deposits. Having felt I was stuck with the incompetence heap that is Lloyds TSB, I finally changed and have never looked back...
Two-part confirmation
A couple of times, when transferring some money on-line, I have been told by the system that a confirmation ID was being sent to my phone and could I please enter it to confirm I was actually the person requesting those transfers.
Useful, in those cases, but I was never quite certain of the triggers for it.
I've never had a problem with my bank.
It must be easier to dispute charges in the US.
However if I wanted to sue ... I believe I am contractually obligated to do so in the State of Texas and via a third party arbitrator of their choosing. I also signed away my rights to a class action lawsuit.
We need better consumer protection laws.
Time is money
What about adding the time it takes you? I would need to book half a day off to book a day in court, and book a day off for my day in court. Could I add these to the court costs?
No need to take time off work to attend court
It's so much more easier these days - apart from the time taken to wordsmith your case its less than 5 minutes work on the Internet, without leaving the comfort of your home - see www.moneyclaim.gov.uk
If people keep on doing this sort of the thing OFT will step in and put a stop to it sharpish, a la overcharging thing where everyone suddenly started winning against the banks.
Not just banks.
Its the same with companies other than banks. It has recently come to my attention that I was sold a PC that had an evaluation copy of windows vista on it, by a well known and large high st retailer (whom shall remain nameless) - I called their support lines to be told that 'It was impossible that I had been sold an evaluation copy, and that I had got a virus'
I had to tell the drone on the other end of the phone that quite how I had gotten a virus on a pc that is not connected to the internet and has only had SQL server, a hire management program and nothing else was beyond me.
In the end I resorted to taking a written copy of the 'This pre-release version of vista will expire in three days...' message to the local purvayor of cheap computer tat, asking for the manager and saying 'Hello mate, you've got a problem - read this!'
And in all fairness to the chap, he's offered to put it right, no quibble, no hassle and no condescending attitude. So thumbs up for him! But the call centre...GRR! And what I found even worse was being told that I didnt know what I was talking about, by someone with less IT qualfications than myself...
Playing devil's advocate...
...it's worth remembering that the fraudulent card payment wasn't the bank's fault either - the security breach was apparently by Hotels.com's auditors. Ideally neither the bank or the individual should have to pay the cost of this fraud, but in reality the perpetrator is unlikely to be caught and so someone is going to be out of pocket.
Why should it be the bank? Did the bank tell you to shop at hotels.com? Did the bank tell hotels.com to use crappy auditors? No. It's not the bank's fault.
As for anti-fraud measures, given how warmly we all embrace biometric IDs and other identity proving systems I don't think the banks have any choice but to assume that if a card is used then it should honor the transaction in good faith - otherwise trying to use your card is just going to be unbearably invasive and inconvenient (I've given up on on bank's on-line payment facility for this reason).
So perhaps we should remember that we are not *entitled* to this money, the fraud is morelikely to stem from the individual's purchase history than from the bank itself, and any refund on offer is a courtesy only.
And no, I don't work for a bank, I'm just sick of this culture of whiny self-entitlement...
Banks are Paris-sites
I find that enclosing a photocopy of the filled in Small Claims Court papers with the second letter shows that you are sincere and your case will be treated as if there were a court case pending rather than just one of thousands of complaints for that day.
I recommend adding £30 per letter and £6 per day whilst their account is "overdrawn" compared with your version. Fair's fair, they do to you.
On changing banks: It is not always that easy, cancelling all your cards and direct debits.Many years ago, after a dispute with Royal Bank of Scotland about service, I was moving my personal and business accounts to another bank. After 3 weeks, the new manager phoned me to come into the bank. "I'm sorry sir, we don't want your accounts, how would you like the contents?". It turns out that they had just received a reference from my old bank saying "Mr Blah has banked with us satisfactorily for many years, however we would not recommend facilities such as a £500 overdraft"!!! Codified bankspeak for BAD_CUSTOMER! Even though I wasn't asking for any overdraft, and my old bank had provided a £500 overdraft limit (which was used correctly and paid off) and at the time of the move I was thousands in credit!
This left me right in the shite at the time I had just moved down south and started a new job.
Paris: because banks are Paris-sites.
When I was in the UK I got burned by a fake keyboard and camera on an ATM. I noticed three days later that my account had had the maximum withdrawn three days running. Natwest hadn't noticed the unusual pattern but when I called them they asked me to file a police report and promptly refunded the money even before I gave them the report details.
I went to the police station near Edgeware Road at about 10 on a Thursday morning and was told by the constable that I was the TENTH person to file for the same thing THAT DAY.
No need to go to Court - the law has changed to be on your side
As I already said as #19 on Ross's newsletter, I don't think Ross's experience dating back to June 2009 will recur, because since November 2009 you now have up to 13 months to query a transaction – no matter what MasterCard bylaws state.
reproduced verbatim below :
"If there is an unauthorised transaction on your credit card account you should dispute it without undue delay (and no later than 13 months after the transaction).
It is for the bank, building society or credit card company to show that the transaction was made by you and there was no breakdown in procedures or technical difficulty.
If you've not authorised the payment then your credit card company must immediately refund you the transaction amount unless they have some evidence suggesting you may not be entitled to a refund because of the way you have acted. In these cases the credit card company must investigate the claim, but must do so as quickly as possible."
Banks & Credit Card companies now have to keep all the data readily available for 13 months, just in case you make a claim a year later. They can't claim they no longer have any records of the event. If they didn't keep any records, then since they can't prove their case - you win.
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WASHINGTON - It was 80 years ago Saturday that the Washington Senators won the pennant to advance to the World Series.
At the time, it was the latest triumph in a golden era that saw the team win three pennants and a world championship in nine years.
Washington baseball teams haven't quite matched that record since. But there's been plenty of interesting baseball history in the city, and Fred Frommer has gotten it all down in "You Gotta Have Heart: A History of Washington Baseball from 1859 to the 2012 National League East Champions."
The book follows D.C. baseball from 1859, when games were played on the Ellipse and President let federal employees off work early to watch the games.
The tradition of the president throwing out the first pitch on Opening Day has changed a bit over the years too. Frommer says the president used to throw the ball over a group of photographers into a crowd of players from both teams who would fight "like bridesmaids" for the ball, which they'd then get autographed by the president.
This resulted in a different kind of political showdown for President Kennedy, who went through the ritual for Chicago White Sox player Jim Rivera.
Frommer says that Rivera reacted by telling the president, "'What kind of garbage autograph is this? You think I can go into any bar on the South Side of Chicago and they're gonna believe the president signed this ball? Now sign this ball right.' And the president signed the ball and Rivera smiled and said, 'You know, you're all right.'"
Other highlights of the District's baseball history include Bob Hope's trying to buy the Washington Senators twice; how former Senator teams are now the Twins and Rangers; and President Nixon's history with the team.
Nixon was considered a good-luck charm for the team, which usually won when he was in attendance, and on the infamous Oval Office tapes, Frommer says, Nixon "schemed and plotted about getting a new team to Washington."
And while D.C. may be marking 80 years since its last pennant, don't forget that there were 33 years without baseball at all. Not so bad when you look at it that way, is it?
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Barnett said he retired from the Air Force after 24 years and he and his wife, the former Dot Wills, could have moved wherever they wanted. They chose to come home to Talladega.
"I'll do everything I can to make the park be very prosperous," he said. "I love Talladega."
Barnett said he has two four-wheelers he bought to enjoy with his grandchildren, and they're anxious to come see him and ride the trails in the park.
Barnett worked for cabinet company MasterBrand before retiring, and is also a minister.
He accepted an offer of a $45,000 salary to come on board as park director. The board approved his hiring Tuesday, but had not determined whether he would work directly for the board or through SK Services. The board plans to make that decision at its next meeting, March 19, and make that Barnett's first day as an employee. That meeting is tentatively set for 7:30 a.m. at Lincoln City Hall, but could be changed to the Environmental Center at the park if it is furnished in time.
Mac Ferguson made the motion to hire Barnett. Joey Cooper seconded the motion, and Tommy Spears and Ray Miller voted in favor. Board member Gary Steed was absent from Tuesday's meeting.
In other business, the board reviewed a complaint about riders approaching the property of a homeowner whose land is adjacent to the park, and decided not to put up orange construction site-type fencing as a barrier. Instead the board approved allowing employee Wes Pope to try once more to erect barriers to keep riders out of that area. On the master plan for the park, that area is to be restricted to horse riders, but off-road vehicle riders are using the area now.
Pope said the riders aren't actually entering the neighbor's property, but the complaint is they are on a ridge on park property with a view that includes their home.
Leah Reddick of the Professional Services Group C.D. Roberts and Associates reported to the board that other parks have extensive liability releases that place responsibility for using safety equipment on the riders. Trail riders using vehicles with seat harnesses and roll bars have complained that being required to wear helmets is redundant, and not required at other parks. Board members want to consult with their attorney and insurance providers to see whether a more comprehensive liability release would be satisfactory at TOP Trails.
Reddick is also seeking bids on security cameras for some areas of the park, and said a temporary sign to mark the park's entrance is being made. The entrance to the park is off of the Alabama 275 northern bypass; approval from the Alabama Department of Transportation for a permanent sign has not been obtained.
A grant status report given to the board listed a total of $1,777,925 in grants awarded. Of that amount, the board has applied for reimbursements of $891,145 spent. Of that amount, the board has received almost $500,000, and is waiting on approval of $397,621.
Another $304,627 has been spent, with reimbursement to be requested, and another $582,153 remains to be spent.
The board approved accepting a bid from Slappey Communications of Birmingham for telephone and internet service at the park. Members said Slappey is the service provider for Mercedes and First National Bank and UAB among others.
In discussions of the Zip Rider, Spears suggested getting more information about estimates for paying off the ride. He felt the estimates by the seller of the ride are overly optimistic, with talk of 200 riders per day, 300 days per year.
"These he is talking about are in locations that are already destinations," Spears said. "I would like to find a similar situation to ours."
Board chairman Spears asked to table new business until the next meeting when all board members are expected to be present.
Those items include a revised shooting complex plan, a ten-year plan of utilization, 2013 monthly timeline, management structure and 2013 budget.
In other business, Spears said a check from Steed for timber for $30,500 has been received, and Reddick said work is being done in preparation for an archery tournament at the park March 30.
Audience member Benny Green passed out a written request to board members and media suggesting "a third and possibly a fourth party" be contracted to independently inventory the timber that has been removed from the park.
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Daniel Epstein is a Washington, D.C.-based journalist in charge of media relations for PAHO's Office of Public Information. Richard L. Vernaci is an Internet consultant and writer who heads Broad Run Consulting, Inc., in Warrenton, Virginia, U.S.A.
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Saosin Seven Years Lyrics
Last updated: 06/17/2012 11:00:00 AM
Taking on seven years
the holy ghost had left alone
Test my arms, kick like crazy
I've been trying way too long
only push the way off to fight you
Now I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm not sure
Getting off my chest
the story ends
I will find a way without...
Tell him his eyes see too clear
I will find a way without you
Tell him his eyes see too clear
That mistake was gold
I know that without you
is something that I could never do
That was why staple the eyes and
seven dates for me to sell machines
and tear on
Seven years you assured me
that I'd be fine if I complied
only push the way off to fight you
(only push the way off to fight you)
Now I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm not sure
Getting off my chest
the story ends
I will find a way without...
Tell him his eyes see too clear
I will find a way without you
Tell him his eyes see too clear
That mistake was gold
I know that without you
is something that I could never do
That was why staple the eyes and
seven dates for me to sell machines
and tear on
Don't treat me, I'm to blame (sorry, I'm sorry, I'm not sure)
Don't treat me like I ever accused you
Thanks to Jaley Willingham for submitting Seven Years Lyrics.
my meaning | Reviewer: Anonymous | 6/16/12
this what I take in from my life not the singer's. It explains the conflict between me and my dad. Because mostly i'll start and argument and my dad doesnt understand that i'm in anger and i think "I will find a way without you" but i can't because i'm only 16. P.S please understand this has nothing to do with the
Easy, The meaning is SO clear! | Reviewer: The Story Ends. | 5/10/12
It is absolutely 100% about the bible. The singer of this song has two different voices in the song which are to examplify one who's doubtful, nd dissagreeing to one who wants to be devoted to, and understand his God.
Being very religious, the things like "seven yers", "test my, arms, kick like crazy" as in the rapture...and experiencing the holy ghosts prove the point of the song.. Furthermost, the whole song shows examples of devotion and doubt in regards tofaith.
youll love this | Reviewer: Anonymous | 9/18/11
i think this is a song about declaring bankruptcy. for these reasons: after you declare, your credit is ruined for seven years. the line "i will find a way without you" could easily be anthony saying "well now that my credit it f**ked, i need to find a new way to get by." "you assured me that id be fine if i complied" the credit board tells everyone if they dont screw around and ride out the 7 years, you can start from scratch.
TheKiTkAtKatKaNdi | Reviewer: Anonymous | 8/25/11
I also first heard this song covered by NeverShoutNever :D my uncle heard me singing it and sed "is that saosin?" and i was like "idk but i know its a cover from nsn" and i found the original after and LOVED IT!
The meaning | Reviewer: Anonymous | 10/20/10
Seven years is about rapture, where the good ppl go up to heaven. He feels bad and says he can't go cuz he cheated or whatever so he's gatta deal w the 7 years where the holy ghost "leaves him alone"
The meaning is... | Reviewer: Anonymous | 8/17/10
The meaning of the song has been explained by Green. One of the initial members of Saosin had been in a relationship for seven years and did something (possibly cheated, etc.) and she broke up with him.
Seven years | Reviewer: Fredy says | 7/9/10
Even I can sing this song, I still didn't understand about this song, but how ever, I like this song..
And one more, for saosin,.
Hey Saosin, would you come to Indonesia, Surabaya city exactly, there are a lot of your fans in here.,
Meaning | Reviewer: blahblah | 6/20/10
I texted a free service called cha cha and they are alot like kgb in that they answer questions.
they said in a snap that this song is about and i quote: "This song is an allegory of his unstable faith and his inability to fully put his trust in God. Possibly over a seven year period."
heh | Reviewer: Anonymous | 5/20/10
the seven years thing relates to the rapture, a biblical event. god takes up all his people into heaven for 7 years.. and on earth those 7 years are supposed to be really difficult.. "taking on seven year the holy ghost had left alone".
the meaning | Reviewer: Hayleee | 4/6/10
I don't get it! whats the meaning of the song? You could say its about a relationship that had been going on for 7 years then he dumps her and wishes he hadn't. Then it could mean he was left on earth for 7 years with the anti christ and his faith in god was wavering. idk. can someone help me out with that? plz?
Seven Years. | Reviewer: Autumn(: | 3/1/10
I love this song. I listen to it more than 20 times a day and i still can't get enough of it. The lyrics are so meaning full. It really gets to me. The first time i hear this song was from NeverShoutNever. His version, i like them both but Saosins' more. This is an amazing song.
seven years | Reviewer: does it matter? | 12/16/09
This song no matter is amazing. i love the lyrics and like the person before this song can mean anything. everyone has a different input on what the think on songs and lyrics and how the artist is feeling during this time period of there life. so i think we should just enjoy and see what other amazing songs will be played and be touched to us in unique ways.
Nice song. | Reviewer: Emanuel | 12/13/09
I think he's talking about God cause God made the earth in 7 days. The tittle of the song and the time of the earth's creation are very similar.
When he says 'the holy ghost had left alone' he's talking about God.
'that mistake was gold, i know that without you is something that i could never do' he's saying that without God nothing is possible.
And when it says; 'i could find a way without you - tell him his eyes to see clear' is that someone is telling you that he can find a way without God so he replies 'tell him his eyes to see clear' because you really can't find a way without God.
So that's what I think of the song, don't make this a religion debate, I'm just saying what I think.
Great song - great band.
relate | Reviewer: chris | 11/11/09
in this song personally i believe he is speaking of a possible drug addiction "Test my arms, kick like crazy, I've been trying way too long.
Only push the way off to fight you" he tests his arm, and for the short while is restless while he "pushes off" meaning he had taken the drugs. he pushes "off to fight you" to get that rush to eaze the withdrawels. when he speaks"dont treat me i'm to blame" he realizes what he is doing and how its affected him but at the same time doesnt want to kick the addiction.
anthony is an amazing artist in both saosin and circa. personally i enjoy the circa sound to listen to when im gone, but when the edge is gone sasoins heavier sound is just as amazing.
Eerie... | Reviewer: Half Boy Half Soup | 10/22/09
I had red the first lyric's paragraph and getting confuse. Why does a great song like this talk about shit? It talks about someone who wanted to test his arm by kicking like crazy? They, arm and kicking, are not related each other in this case! If you have ever visited listverse.com and red about list of most eerie recordings, this one have to be at the top of the list.


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Update: Three trailers destroyed by fire at Butte County mobile home park
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Susan Warshany of Schenectady has been appointed vice president of marketing for the State Employees Federal Credit Union of Albany. She will develop and implement marketing strategies for SEFCU's financial products and member services. Formerly, she was the director of marketing and public relations for OnBank & Trust Co. of Albany.
Gay Hisert has been promoted to assistant vice president of the data processing department of SEFCU. Formerly, Hisert was manager of the department. Cap Com:
Mike Ward has been promoted to senior financial consultant at Cap Com Financial Services Inc. in Albany. Ward will be responsible for managing Cap Com's other financial consultants and provide financial advisory services for individuals. Ward has been with Cap Com since 1989.
Fleet Bank:
Kathleen Marinelli of Albany has been appointed vice president and assistant general counsel of Fleet Bank of New York. She was promoted from associate counsel to counsel of Fleet Financial Group Inc. Marinelli began her career with the company in 1991.
Edward J. Hackney III of East Poestenkill has joined Fleet as vice president of the cash management department. Hackney has experience in domestic and international banking, primarily in England and Canada with Citibank and Chemical Bank.
Roberta S. Bastow of Albany has joined Fleet as vice president and national retail sales manager of corporate services. Bastow has 12 years' experience in the financial industry, recently as vice president and commercial lender with Key Bank of New York.
Brown & Brown:
Thomas W. Peterson of Round Lake was hired as an associate attorney in the Ballston Spa law firm of Brown & Brown. Peterson is the Round Lake village attorney. Previously, Brown practiced in Albany for six years in state and federal courts.
David Seth Michaels:
Rachel Samuels of Albany has been hired by the David Seth Michaels law firm in Chatham as an associate attorney.
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Peter M. Giulietti has been appointed vice president of Principal Abstract Inc. in Clifton Park. Giulietti formerly worked for Home Funding Finders Inc. as a mortgage loan originator and loan servicing coordinator.
Masto Dagastine:
Deborah A. Genovesi has been hired as an account executive at the Latham public relations firm of Masto Dagastine & Associates Inc. She will produce several corporate newsletters and coordinate the editorial and media relations activities for the firm's utility and power transmission accounts. Previously, she was director of communications for the Doane Stuart School, public relations specialist for St. Peter's Hospital and worked as a radio, television and video producer.
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Melissa A. Kintner of Albany has joined the Albany law firm of R. Steven Aceti as a paralegal. She will conduct research and draft documents on matters involving product liability, employment law, corporate collections administrative law and personal injury. Previously, Kintner was an accountant with the Picotte Cos.
North Country Engineering:
Cash E. Davidson has joined North Country Engineering in Lake George as a project engineer. Previously, Davidson was electrical systems superintendent at North Carolina State University, Raleigh.
Anthony E. Dalto has joined the firm as a project engineer.
Albany Savings Bank:
Martin Bonville of Ballston Spa has been promoted to assistant vice president at Albany Savings Bank. Bonville started at the bank in 1984.
Joseph DeBrango of East Greenbush has been promoted to assistant vice president/computer operations manager. DeBrango joined Albany Savings in 1991 as the data processing operations manager.
David Kaiser of Ballston Spa has been appointed vice president of commercial loans at Albany Savings. Kaiser joined the bank as a commercial loan officer in 1984.
Katherine E. Lubbers of Castleton has been appointed assistant secretary of Albany Savings. Lubbers joined the bank in 1979 in the human resources department.
Gary G. Phillips of Delmar was appointed applications sales specialist at AT&T, small business division, upstate branch, Albany. Phillips will be handling all interactive voice response systems, and video technologies and hospitality applications. She had been an account executive for five years at AT&T.
Marc Sciocchetti of Schenectady has joined AT&T as a sales agent responsible for telecommunications sales to small businesses in Saratoga, Schenectady, Warren and Washington counties. Sciocchetti had been an account executive with Northeast Information Systems.
Mike Gerardi of Guilderland will enter the account executive training program prior to a sales territory assignment with AT&T's small business division. Previously, he was an account executive with Rochester Telephone Co.
David Cassidy of Schenectady will enter the account executive training program prior to a sales territory assignment with AT&T's small business division. Cassidy was an inside manager with Culligan Water Systems in New Jersey.
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William J. Moore of Cairo has been elected vice president of Catskill Savings Bank. Moore has been with the bank since 1972.
Key Bank:
M. Brian Hughes of Loudonville has been appointed manager of the Albany office of private banking at Key Bank of New York. Previously, Hughes was a vice president at Chase Manhattan Bank.
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Chance Deupree has joined Rueckert & Shanley advertising and public relations agency in Albany as art director. Deupree has been an art director in Florida, Tennessee and Albany.
Central Hudson:
Steven V. Lant of Poughkeepsie has been promoted to treasurer of Poughkeepsie-based Central Hudson Gas & Electric Corp. Lant joined Central Hudson in 1980 as a junior analyst.
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Nadine P. Bucher of Watervliet has joined Glenmont-based Farm Family Insurance as an executive secretary. She had been a secretary for Stuyvesant Plaza Inc. of Guilderland and a coordinator for the Hospital Association of New York state.
John J. Dziezynski of Loudonville has joined Farm Family Insurance as a junior compliance and product development analyst for the mutual company. Formerly, he worked as a client services representative at Phoenix Home Life Insurance of East Greenbush. Dziezynski is a member of Beta Gamma Sigma, a national business honor society of the University of Connecticut.
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Jane Eckman of Scotia has joined the Albany public relations and public affairs firm as a graphic artist. Carolyn Willard has been promoted from receptionist to assistant account executive.
Saratoga Associates:
Michael R. Andrews of Clifton Park was hired as an architectural technician.
Coldwell Banker:
Andrew P. Mironchuk of Albany has joined the sales team of Coldwell Banker, Guilderland. Mironchuk has been licensed since 1977 and is an associate broker.
Northwestern Mutual:
Jim Arre of Hillsdale and Bill Coton of Albany have joined the Latham office of Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance Co. George Longley of Diamond Point and Fred Monroe of Chestertown will work in the Glens Falls office.
Sarah Linville of Rotterdam has been named a marketing assistant.
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U.S. Attorney Paul Charlton has a rare opportunity to investigate Sheriff Joke. Will he do it?
Here's an idea, county supes: Audit the freakin' sheriff's office for the first time ever!
Sheriff Arpaio uses police powers to shamefully punish enemies, protect pals and finance his campaign
County lawmen boffing hookers isn't Sheriff Joe's only problem. Fed up with his thuggery, Arpaio's own political party has targeted him for defeat
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WASHINGTON - One ESPN anchor was suspended, and another employee of the same network fired, for using the phrase "Chink in the Armor" to describe a loss by the New York Knicks, led by their Asian-American phenom Jeremy Lin.
Now a public policy law professor at George Washington University is using that Lintroversy to draw new attention to a long-running debate over race and sports in Washington -- the Redskins team name.
"Indeed, many call it the 'R' word," says Professor John Banzhaf, who in the past has targeted the tobacco and fast food industries in high-profile legal proceedings.
He says American Indian groups have challenged the term "redskin" as a trademark for more than 20 years, but have had little success in court.
He's now calling for a different tack -- to challenge the broadcast licenses of TV and radio stations that use the word "redskin."
Banzhaf says he successfully mounted a similar challenge years ago, when African-American roles on television, including on news broadcasts, were limited.
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As for whether the word "redskin" rises to the same level of offensiveness as the phrase "chink in the armor," Banzhaf says, "My guess would be, far more people would find the deliberate use of the word 'redskins,' which has no other meaning, much more derogatory and offensive than saying that somebody has a chink in his armor, a phrase which appears in the news with regard to dozens of other situations."
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Angelina Jolie is making 'Maleficent' a family affair! Four-year-old Vivienne has already filmed a small part as a younger Princess Aurora. Elle Fanning is playing the adult version; I can see Vivienne being a younger version of her. Now Pax and Zahara have also been cast in the movie. You'll have to keep an eye out for them, though: they don't have speaking parts, so they'll be seen but not heard.
Shiloh was supposed to shoot a scene in 'Maleficent' as well, but things didn't work out. A source explained, "she was bored and not in the mood during the day her part was supposed to happen, so she ended up not being in the film." Oh, that's too bad, but working with kids can be like that. I was looking forward to 'Maleficent' regardless, but looking out for the Jolie-Pitt kids will make it even more interesting. Maddox and Knox must be camera-shy.
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Physics Photo of the Week
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Red Sky at Night
This picture of the moon rising above the Swannanoa Mountains on the evening of May 19, 2008 shows a red sky typical of a sunrise or sunset. We usually don't see the vivid colors at night when our eyes are less sensitive to color. A color digital camera, however, does not lose its sensitivity to color - it merely must open the shutter for a longer time to compensate for less light.
The color of a red sky at sunrise, sunset, moonrise, etc. is attributed to the phenomenon known as Rayleigh scattering - named after the 19th century physicist John William Strutt (Lord Rayleigh). The Earth's atmosphere, even if entirely free of pollutants, mist, or humidity is not entirely uniform. The nature of the molecular composition of air (or gases in general) is such that the density of molecules is not exactly uniform but contains random microscopic fluctuations in density. Rayleigh proved that these density fluctuations
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Torre Langley, we hardly knew ye.
Probable spot start and/or bullpen insurance. With Mon's offday, couldn't we just skip Happ's spot anyway? Everyone is on normal rest right now.
Nevermind...was looking at the wrong week on the schedule. Yeah, we need a spot starter.
I'd go with Figgy personally.
Threads are changing too fast for me this morning. Reposted:
sophist: Fair enough. I do have a tendency to throw gratuitous negativity into my posts.
phlipper: Agree with you about it being hard to top Lee's playoff performance in terms of numbers. But, as some posters pointed out the last time this topic came up, Lee has never pitched a game on 3 days rest, whereas Halladay has not only done so, but has great numbers in that situation. This means that, assuming we haven't used him in a Game 7 of the last series, he could pitch 3 times in a 7-game series, whereas Lee could only pitch twice. So instead of losing 4 games to 2, like we did to the Yankees, we would only lose 4 games to 3.
***So instead of losing 4 games to 2, like we did to the Yankees, we would only lose 4 games to 3.***
Hamels will be better this year, so we'll likely win 4-1 or 4-2. No worries.
Murphy, in his live chat today, said Carpenter is his bet to spot start if Happ can't go on Saturday. They're probably keeping Carp ready - just in case.
This is also something Murphy posted in his chat:
"Getting to the postseason might actually be more difficult than getting to the World Series this year. I really like the way Hamels is throwing right now, and if he stays healthy I think he could have a monster second half. With Halladay and Hamels starting four of seven games in a playoff series, the Phillies are in great shape. They just need to make sure injuries in the rotation and their bullpen don't allow the Braves to make a run at the division title. Because this Braves team is damn good."
BAP - wasn't meant as criticism.
awh: The Marlins aren't half bad either. That lineup is as good as any in the league, except the Phillies (when healthy) and maybe the Rockies.
And, frankly, I'm still not writing off the Mets, although most others seem to be.
BAP, I guess my initial impression was much like yours: Halladay didn't look as sharp in the last three innings as the first 6. But then i got to thinking, and it occurred to me that the 7th, the inning where Halladay started to "struggle," started off with Chipper and McCann both swinging at 1st pitches. After that, Halladay dialed down the first pitch strikes, as you noted. That may have been intentional, as an adjustment to the fact that the Braves were gunning for him on the first pitch.
And you're correct, defense certainly saved him at certain points. But aside from that amazing catch from Vic, most of the great defense was on ground balls. If these balls had been hit at people, and not required sharp athletic plays, I'm guessing we wouldn't have thought he struggled in the last three. You can say, well, if those balls are 2 feet more away from those players, the game is totally different. But Halladay's job is to role ground balls, and he kept doing that effectively into the 9th.
He threw 17 pitches in the 8th, and 12 in the 9th. That's pretty effective, for anyone, and at any part of the game. I'm not really disagreeing with your assessment, just presenting a different point of view.
bap, I'm not writing off the Mets either.
Keep in mind their best player (IMO), Beltran, is still DL'd until around June.
" Four games, though, seems a little soon to start comparing him to great Phillies pitchers."
I agree. As good as Doc has been, it has yet to be proven that he will do so well once hitters have faced him more and know his repertoire of pitches better. His toughest innings have been later in games. That said - some of that is undoubtedly due to some tiring.
And his long-term record in the AL East speaks well to his ability to get hitters out even after they have faced him often.
BAP - I already posted about the advantage that Doc would most likely start three games in a seven game series.
"If these balls had been hit at people, and not required sharp athletic plays, I'm guessing we wouldn't have thought he struggled in the last three."
That's true, and a good point. And I don't think he pitched badly in the 7th at all. I do think he started to labor a bit in the 8th & 9th, when he faced 7 batters & threw first pitch balls to all of them. But he got away with it because, when he does have to come over the plate on a hitter's count, he's still got the stuff and location to induce ground balls.
I can't wait to see Halladay live for the Phils. I live in New York, so I got to see him pitch against the Yanks a few times. For my money, he is the best pitcher since Pedro. I've never seen anyone dominate the way Pedro did. But like the old goat's pitches, all of Halladay's pitches seem to have late movement. Jason's line about each pitch having its own valid purpose was perfect.
The Braves and the Marlins are tough -- they worry me, and I think the wild card comes from the NL East this year. I can't muster up any fear over the Mets because of their pitching staff.
i do not believe happ has thrown his bullpen session yet so i can't see that it means dl yet. probably insurance
DL might make sense since you can make it retroactive to April 15.
that's true
Good point about the retro DL, plus Happ missing a start or three is a very small price to pay if it gets him right and he doesn't have to pitch through pain for the rest of the season. The Phils are still in first place despite being without 4 or 5 key players. All of them are due back before too long, but none should be rushed.
I think Charlie should send a message to the Phans, and the rest of MLB. Doc should be the only pitcher put on the All-Star roster. Complete game, Phils get home field in the Series. Done and done.
I'm calling Happ to the DL.
RE: 1st pitch swinging, a 0-0 count is the best pitch to swing against Halladay, other than a 2-1 count, which doesn't happen too often. Therefore most hitters will swing a the first pitch against Doc if it's near the strike zone. Thus he gets a lot of short innings. Thus he saves the bullpen. Thus he becomes even more valuable.
Like I said before, he's Greg Maddox with a better fastball. Just amazing.
Maddux wasn't always a pure finesse guy. He used to easily be low 90s throughout a game with great movement/location. I think sometimes we forget just how dominating Maddux was...here's his peak:
1992-1998 (7 seasons)
In that span, his lowest ERA+ was 162 and his highest was 271.
He won 4 Cy youngs in that period and was a top 5 vote getter every year.
the phillies disabled list and day to day is reminding alot of the mets last yr - hope not...
NEPP, I watched a whooooooole lotta Braves games in the 90s. Mad Dog usually topped out at 88 or 89 with his fastball (I remeber this very clearly). He was never at any time a power pitcher. I wouldn't call him a pure finesse guy, but it was always his movement, not his velocity, which was his strength. That, and having 4 plus pitches he could throw for strikes at any time, and a cutter which ate lefties alive.
I keep seeing Halladay throw it up in the low to mid 90s throughout the game. Maddux may have hit the low 90s a few times during a game, but never as consistently as Halladay, and never as fast as 94, which I saw Doc hit several times last night.
And note, I am not saying that Doc is a better pitcher than Maddux. Just that he has a better fastball. If there ever could be a better pitcher than Maddux not enhansed by steriods, I'd like to see him. I might be now, but then again, I'll reserve my judgement
I don't think Halladay's quite on Maddux's level either. To me, Pedro & Maddux are the two greatest pitchers of my lifetime, with Randy Johnson just a shade behind. And that lifetime includes all the big stars of the 70s.
Maddox always looked like an accountant to me, so seeing him on the mound was kind of amusing. But I have to admit, I loved watching him pitch and actually rooted for the Braves in the World Series when they played the Yankees. Of course the only time they won is when I wanted the Indians to win.
Will someone please explain the benefits of a retroactive DL designation to me?
Kutz, I'm an accountant, so I don't really know how to take that comment :)
If we put Happ on the retro DL, we can say he's been on it for the last 5 days or so, which will allow him to come back 10 days from now, not 15.
Dan - no disrespect to accountants, especially after your succinct explanation to my question.
I will now be silent, but informed.
Carpenter was scratched from his start because it just makes sense. With Moyer on the mound tonight, it's entirely possible the team might need Figueroa to pitch 2-3 innings, in which case Carpenter will be called up to start on Saturday.
Also, he will be the guy called up if Happ goes on the DL--but this move does NOT mean that is automatic; see above for why it makes sense anyway. But if Happ does need to go on the DL today or tomorrow, there's no point in calling up a guy who just pitched.
****And note, I am not saying that Doc is a better pitcher than Maddux. Just that he has a better fastball. If****
To clarify, I agree on this point. I am not implying that Greg was ever a power pitcher in his career.
Before he learned how to pitch, (back as a prospect with the Cubs), he was able to hit 93-94 on the gun and he was thought of as a possible power guy. His rookie scouting reports are clear on that. He then realized that he's far more effective at 90ish with movement than he'd ever be overthrowing just to get a radar reading.
Dunno if this was already posted last night from Salisbury:
Zolecki (via Twitter): Tonight's Lineup @ ATL: Victorino CF, Dobbs 3B, Utley 2B, Howard 1B, Werth RF, Ibañez LF, Castro SS, Ruiz C, Moyer P.
Maddux certainly had an accountant's efficiency. Six complete games that required fewer than 90 pitches. I always found that fact freakishly impressive.
Pirates really making a run at this one. Brew Crew winning 20-0 in the 9th.
Couple of points from this thread and previous...
IMO... I've seen both pitch...Roy Halliday RIGHT NOW is Carlton good. Obviously he hasn't pitched long enough to get 300 wins and 4,000 K's. Not sure if he will as we now see 5-man rotations i/o 4. Times are different. Can't argue about Roberts or Alexander as I'm not quite that old.
Greg Maddux was an awesome pitcher. I saw him a lot too. He could get it over 90 if he wanted to but mostly relied on changing speeds and pinpoint location. However, he benefited from a wide strike zone that has since been modified. There was a big fuss about that (I'm guessing 10 years ago) and I believe it's been changed for the better. Again...tough to compare b/c times were different.
Interesting that Charlie has Chooch starting tonight after Schneider caught both of Moyer's previous starts. It's not a match-up issue, as all of Moyer's opposing SP (including tonight's) have been RHP. I wonder if the skipper thinks good chemistry between battery mates trumps having LH batter Schneider facing RHP Lowe. If so, that may well be a first for the match-up obsessed Manuel.
bap: You were correct last nite on tonite's lineup. Can't wait for Moyer to tell Hayward "Get off my lawn" with a brushback pitch.
Zolecki (via Twitter): "Scott Franzke left the team to be with his wife, who is expecting. Wheels and LA on the radio, McCarthy and Sarge on TV tonight."
Oh, f*ck me. Now there's no escape. Best wishes to Scott & his wife, though.
Dave: I think it's just the "day game after nite game" thing with the catchers.
Ouch. Brewers outscored the Bucs 28-0 over the last two games.
goody: Could be. Whatever the reason, a change of pace can't hurt.
Zolecki (via Twitter): "Happ to DL. Figeuora to pitch Sat. Romero activated."
I'm not esp. surprised by any of this.
happ to the dl. romero activated. figueroa starts on saturday
Edit: I'm assuming, of course, that Zolecki meant "Figueroa", the pitcher the Phillies already have, not that the Phillies have all-of-a-sudden acquired a SP named "Figeuora" to fill the Happ gap.
A-Train, then again, Maddux pitched during the height of the steriod era, so who knows?
NEPP, I heard Skip Carey say years ago that Mad always knew he wouldn't make it on his velocity, but he may have been wrong. Or I may be mis-remembering. Whatever. By the time he was pitching for the Braves, he didn't throw as hard as Doc does now.
Dave: It could be worse. I'll stick with LA, and Wheels is, by far, the best of the other 3. Braves on XM is another choice, but XM is behind the TV, if I remember correctly.
Brian Schneider lifetime vs. Derek Lowe (12 PA):
.111 .333 .222 .556
Chooch vs. Lowe (8 PA):
.125 .125 .250 .375
Not much matchup difference, albeit small sample sizes.
goody: Thanks for reminding me about XM. I'm used to a TV/radio delay anyway, so that won't be a big deal. Besides, I haven't yet had a chance to hear the Atlanta folks channel Bobby Cox & whine about every perceived bad break the team gets yet this season. Could be good for a laugh or three. :-)
awh: I was referring to getting a LH bat in to face a RH pitcher. Personally I'd rather Charlie look more at specific batter/pitcher stats as opposed to the generic lefty/righty thing he seems to prefer (although you're correct in that it doesn't really matter much in this case). At any rate, goody is probably right about the day/night thing. I had forgotten that Moyer's first two starts were afternoon games.
I formally make a motion that Halladay start all the games for the rest of the season.
Whew! Talk about snake bit. If we can get our whole team back on the field and still be at or near 1st place, it will be a great job.
3 pieces of bad news in 27 minutes. They say everything happens in 3's, so all the bad news is out of the way before the game.
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No sir. this is india. despite such wide publicity , there was an incident 2 days back. the police failed to register complaint and the victim committed suicide. such policemen must be punished first and then capital punishment must be awarded to criminals and only then we can hope of a better societyAnswered by Ataur Rahman, 29 Dec '12 12:14 pm
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May your dream and our dream of seeing a crime free india and safe india for women may come true sir! umeed par to duniya tiki hai ji! is sapne ki sach hone ki bhi umeed hai!Answered by SHUBHAM DWIVEDI, 29 Dec '12 12:12 pm
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