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Currently rated #2 on TripAdvisor as a top hotel in Glendale, the Vagabond Inn Glendale is located right in the heart of the city, and just a short walk to the Americana at Brand and the Glendale Galleria, as well as a number of restaurants and other entertainment options. This hotel has an elevator to make it easier for guests to bring their shopping bags up three flights in this hotel.
Our hotel offers superior convenience when visiting the hottest Los Angeles attractions. We are near the Los Angeles Zoo and Botanical Gardens where you can visit the Elephants of Asia habitat among other notable exhibits. Hike to the Hollywood sign or one of many Griffith Park hiking trails, or take in the views of LA from the Griffith Observatory. Plan a visit to the nearby Universal Studios, Dodger Stadium, Burbank, Hollywood and many other nearby hot spots.
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Total number of rooms with two or more beds: 19
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Patrice O'Neal, Veteran Comedian, Dies of Stroke
by Hilton Hater at .Patrice O'Neal, who suffered a serious stroke in late October, has passed away from complications related to that incident. He was 41.
The death was first reported by O'Neal's pals at the Opie and Anthony radio show, as Opie Tweeted this morning: "Yes it's true that our pal Patrice O'Neal has passed away. The funniest and best thinker I've ever known PERIOD."
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I thought that he was very funny...if you can't laugh at the truth...you are a sad case in this world....rip patrice o'neal you gave this world a reason to laugh....now you are resting with the lord...
First of all - Patrice, Rest In Peace ! Second, I know people have a right to their own opinion, but let the man rest in peace ! I'm not very religious, but "He who is free of sin cast the first stone !
I don't consider him very funny at all.
I am very sorry to hear another young person gone because he really take very good care of himself and allowed himself to get so large that is what he should concerned himself about and not what he considers a joke about white women isn't funny at all.
Let a white comic dare say something simular about black women and there would be such an outcry calling him or her a racist.
But as usuall nothing is said about a black man saying something about white women that is considered to be OK.
I heard he ate a cracker a day. Wait. No. He was the only mixed black and white kid that had afro-american studies and japanese calligraphry writing class along with the art of haiku in fifth grade.


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Washington, DC Wednesday, April 18, 2012
The third day of congressional inquiries into General Services Administration conference spending moved to the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, where Brian D. Miller, the inspector general at GSA, and Dan Tangherlini, the agency's acting administrator testified.
Congress began investigating GSA spending after the inspector general reported in early April that the agency spent about $823,000 at a Las Vegas resort during a October 2010 conference.
At a House hearing on Monday, Jeffrey Neely, the official at the center of the scandal, invoked his fifth amendment rights and refused to testify because the matter has been referred to the Justice Department for possible criminal violations. Neely, who is on administrative leave from his position as Region 9 Commissioner of the GSA, organized the October 2010 Las Vegas conference. He was not called to testify in today's hearing.
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Built in 1868, this handsome Victorian townhouse was named after the Battle of Maqdala, fought in Abyssinia in the same year. Field Marshall Lord Robert Napier, who commanded the campaign, lived nearby in Henrietta Street as a boy. The house was named in his honour.
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Well, the MVP announcements came and went and only a few things were surprising. Justin Verlander predictably took the AL MVP, and Jose Bautista came in a criminal third — criminal mostly because he received one vote each in sixth through ninth place. NINTH PLACE? Are you kidding me? On top of that, this asshole decided he would vote Michael Young for MVP and slot Bautista in seventh. Good joke, except not a joke, somehow.
And in the National League, Ryan Braun won out over Matt Kemp despite Kemp basically being better than Braun at everything on a team that didn't have Prince Fielder on it. But hey.
BREAKING: BBWAA still dumb.
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On Capitol Hill today, the chemical industry squashed a bi-partisan effort to ban the controversial chemical bisphenol-A (BPA) from baby bottles and children's drinking cups. Really guys?
Protecting kids from toxic chemicals should be a no-brainer, right? Especially when the science is so strong, the scientists themselves are calling for action.
Farmworkers, farmers and eaters have joined together to change the face of U.S. agriculture. The Fair Food Project focuses on both the serious need for change as well innovations leading that change—bringing wholesome food and farming back home, to our tables, one family farm at a time.
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"Stop raising doubt where there is consensus." "Take an online course in epidemiology!" These were but two of the admonitions scientists and malariologists directed at Africa Fighting Malaria's representative at a Geneva symposium on malaria last week.
Richard Tren, who spoke at the meeting for Africa Fighting Malaria (AFM), is an economist by training whose public career has included manufacturing doubt about climate change as well as spreading misinformation about the effectiveness of DDT in controlling malaria.
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Several of my friends have just returned from The Hague, Netherlands, where they joined nearly 1,000 people from 80 countries in a Global Conference on Climate, Agriculture and Food Security. With the planet on the precipice of climate chaos and nearly a billion people hungry, the stakes in finding genuine solutions could not be higher. And with only three weeks left til the UN Conference on Climate in Cancun, the Hague meeting had the potential to do something really useful. Like champion a global transition to climate-resilient ecological agriculture, with enough financial and policy support to enable farmers around the world to adapt to and survive the stresses of climate change. Alas, it did not.


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All versions of the Cadillac CTS get a heavily revised version of the direct-injected 3.6-liter V6 that's 20 pounds lighter than last year's 3.6-liter engine and rated for 318 horsepower (up from 304). You can still get this engine with either rear-wheel drive or all-wheel drive, but if you want a manual gearbox with it, no can do: A six-speed automatic is standard. In other news, the CTS gets a new grille design, and Bluetooth is now standard across the board. If you select the Luxury or Premium trim level, you can get an optional Touring package with special wheels (18-inch alloys with a pearl nickel finish on the Luxury, polished 19s on the Premium), chrome door handles, a revised grille, a V-series-style center brake light, a suede-trimmed steering wheel, metal-trimmed pedals, Midnight Sapele wood inlays and suede seat trim. On the CTS Premium, the Touring package also scores you a pair of Recaro seats. New paint choices include Black Diamond Tricoat, Opulent Blue Metallic and Mocha Steel Metallic (with late availability on the Mocha). The CTS coupe also gets a blind spot warning system to help you cope with its massive C-pillars. 2012 Cadillac CTS Burlington
The CTS sedan gets all the same upgrades as the coupe, save for the blind spot warning system.CTS Sport Sedan offers a powerfully seductive blend of performance, efficiency, luxury and style. The highly refined 3.0L V6 produces more standard horsepower than the Audi A4, the BMW 3- and 5-series and the Mercedes-Benz C- and E-Class, yet consumes just 7.2 L/100 km on the highway. For 2012, there's also a new available 3.6L V6 that generates a spirited 318 hp – more than the BMW 335i and the Mercedes C350. The handling is world-class, thanks to an intensive fine-tuning program at Germany's legendary Nürburgring race track. CTS also spoils its occupants with true Cadillac luxury in a cabin that showcases meticulous craftsmanship, a host of premium amenities and up-to-the-second style. The 2012 CTS Sport Sedan. It's everything you're looking for in a sport sedan. 2012 Cadillac CTS Burlington
For active lifestyles, CTS Sport Wagon is a perfect fit. With all seats in their usual places, the cabin offers generous room for 5 adults, along with more than 720 litres of space for their gear. Should you need to deal with bulky cargo, the rear seat is a 60/40 design, so you can fold down one or both sides to open up as much room as you require. The standard power liftgate can be programmed to open to your preferred height very helpful if you have to park in a garage with a low ceiling. Sports enthusiasts will also appreciate CTS Sport Wagon's class-exclusive roof load management system with concealed side rails and available crossbars, so it's easy to install racks and cargo boxes.To help you handle Canadian winter driving conditions with confidence, CTS Sport Wagon offers available All-Wheel Drive (AWD). It's a sophisticated full-time system that monitors for wheelspin and automatically redistributes power to the wheels with grip to help you get to your destination. There are also a host of standard systems 4-wheel disc brakes with ABS, traction control, StabiliTrak electronic stability control system designed to help keep you firmly in control when traction is compromised. The result is a car you'll love to drive 12 months of the year.2012 Cadillac CTS Burlington
Regardless of whether you're talking about the look, the performance or the luxury, there's nothing less than awesome about CTS-V Coupe. This is an aggressively-styled ultra-high-performance machine with some of the most serious engineering available anywhere, such as an awe-inspiring supercharged 6.2L V8 engine that puts out a whopping 556 hp. Other track-inspired highlights include a standard 6-speed manual transmission, a dual-mode Magnetic Ride Control® suspension, massive Brembo® brakes and super-sticky Michelin® Pilot Sport tires. CTS-V is just as serious on the inside, with a driver-focused cockpit that delivers control and luxury in equal measure.Extra horsepower doesn't seem to have improved its sight lines, so Cadillac has added a blind spot warning system to the CTS-V coupe as well. Black Diamond Tricoat and Opulent Blue Metallic are new to the exterior color palette. 2012 Cadillac CTS Burlington
If you're ready for real high-performance luxury motoring, the CTS-V Sport Sedan is definitely for you. With 556 hp under the hood, CTS-V isn't just the fastest and most powerful production Cadillac ever built, it's among the very fastest V8-powered cars in the world.** Yet CTS-V is about much than raw power. Thanks to advanced Magnetic Ride Control® suspension technology, CTS-V's ride and handling are nothing short of world-class. The cabin even sets a higher standard for luxury, with stylish ambient interior lighting and available Recaro® sport seats. It all adds up to a thrilling driving experienceYou're going to get rain-sensing wipers as standard this year, and if you wish, you can paint your CTS-V sedan Black Diamond Tricoat, Mocha Steel Metallic or Opulent Blue Metallic. 2012 Cadillac CTS Burlington
This is not your uncle's station wagon. CTS-V Sport Wagon delivers an intoxicating blend of ultra-high performance and serious utility. The supercharged V8 un der the hood puts out 556 hp – more than the 2011 Ferrari California and more than the Porsche 911 Turbo S.†† Yet if you open the power tailgate, you'll find a cargo hold capable of handling 720 L of gear – 1,644 L with the rear seats folded. CTS-V Sport Wagon is also remarkably luxurious, with fine leathers, a brilliant Bose® 5.1 Cabin Surround® audio system and a full complement of contemporary conveniences. It's destined to be one of the most sought-after collector's cars of the 21st century.You know the drill: Rain-sensing wipers? Check. Option to choose Black Diamond Tricoat, Mocha Steel Metallic or Opulent Blue Metallic paint? Check.2012 Cadillac CTS Burlington
Wisely, Cadillac has discontinued the underachieving 3.0-liter V6 and turbocharged 2.8-liter V6 engines for 2012. Now every SRX comes standard with a heavily revised version of the automaker's direct-injected 3.6-liter V6 rated at 308 hp and 265 pound-feet of torque. A six-speed automatic transmission with a driver-selectable Eco mode is standard. Bluetooth is now standard across the board, and all versions except the base model have a heated steering wheel. Cadillac has added a central door lock button to the driver door (in addition to the one on the console), and you can opt for Ebony interior trim. The 20-inch wheels (if, indeed, you really need 20-inch wheels on a family crossover) have a new finish this year, and you just might decideto paint your 2012 SRX Xenon Blue Metallic.Gripping Performance SRX's available All-Wheel-Drive (AWD) system is engineered to make the most of the available traction in all circumstances. Developed in partnership with Haldex®, a world leader in AWD technology, the SRX system includes an electronic limited-slip rear differential. That means that, in addition to adjusting the distribution of power between the front and rear axles, it can redistribute the power to whichever rear wheel has the best grip on the road. The result? Improved traction in slippery conditions, along with greater controlduring hard cornering. 2012 Cadillac SRX Burlington
For performance, luxury, technology and eye-catching style, nothing comes close to Escalade. What else can accommodate up to 8 people in complete comfort, tow trailers weighing as much as 3,674 kg (8,100 lb), take the worst driving conditions in its stride - and look this great the whole time? For an even more extraordinary experience, treat yourself to the available Ultra Luxury Collection Package. A Magnetic Ride Control® suspension, a power sunroof, glittering 22-inch wheels and an array of other premium features are all included.Cadillac has updated the navigation system to include new POI search features, guiding lines for the back-up camera and enhanced satellite-radio-based weather updates. There's a new lid design for the center console, and Platinum Edition models are available with a revised Ebony color scheme. Later in the model year, the color palette will expand to include Radiant Silver and Crystal Red. 2012 Cadillac Escalade Burlington
Escalade ESV takes the essential Escalade concept and adds more. As in more overall length, by a little over half a metre. More wheelbase, which translates into an even more comfortable ride. More 2nd- and 3rd-row leg room. And more space for cargo, so you can transport up to 3,891 L of gear with the 2nd-row seats folded and the 3rd-row seat removed. It all adds up to a remarkable blend of style, luxury and utility.Platinum edition -inc: unique front fascia & grille, unique interior accents & trim, side blind zone alert, LED headlights, IntelliBeam headlamp control, heated steering wheel, heated & cooled cupholders, pwr release 2nd row seat, rear seat entertainment, dual DVD head restraints, pwr retractable assist steps, pwr sunroof, 22" chromed multi-spoke aluminum wheels, P285/45R22 tires, magnetic ride control *Deletes front recovery hooks* Memory package, adjustable pedals, steering wheel and driver seat (2-position) -inc: lumbar memory for driver & front passenger. 2012 Cadillac Escalade Burlington
The Escalade pickup truck receives just the nav system updates and the new center console lid design.For those who enjoy living both actively and well, Escalade EXT is in a category of one. From the 2nd seating row forward, Escalade EXT is everything you expect Escalade to be: beautiful, powerful, capable and luxurious. But from that 2nd row back, Escalade EXT is nothing less than revolutionary. Just fold the rear seat and the innovative Midgate® out of the way and EXT transforms from a class-leading 5-passenger SUV to a luxury pickup with a flat, damage-resistant cargo floor measuring almost 2.5 metres in length. It's a kind of versatility that no other luxury SUV can even approach. The extended-wheelbase Escalade ESV.Escalade ESV takes the essential Escalade concept and adds more. As in more overall length, by a little over half a metre. More wheelbase, which translates into an even more comfortable ride. More 2nd- and 3rd-row leg room, And more space for cargo, so you can transport up to 3,891 L of gear with the 2nd-row seats folded and the 3rd-row seat removed. It all adds up to a remarkable blend of style, luxury and utility. 2012 Cadillac Escalade Burlington
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Back in 2011, Tom Spina Designs showed off this King Kong-inspired theater collection at Monsterpalooza.
As you could guess, attendees were going ape over the big debut.
Tom Spina Designs does a lot of custom pieces, but this one is pretty impressive. Hand-built from foam, faux wood and stone, the collection includes a Kong TV cabinet and giant monkey paws that double as theater chairs.
If you want to get up close and personal with the collection, contact the company about getting your own ape-inspired set. Otherwise, you can get a better angle on it, as well as the entire construction process, in the video below. [via Neatorama]
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Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary-general, signalled on Monday that China and India should take on more responsibility for tackling climate change, alongside rich countries.
"I support the principle of common but differentiated responsibilities when it comes to climate change," Mr Ban said in Bangkok, meaning that developing countries should carry less of the burden for cutting greenhouse gas emissions.
But in words clearly aimed at China and India, two of the world's biggest greenhouse gas emitters which carry no obligation to curb emissions under the current Kyoto protocol, he added: "Yet this principle does not mean that developing countries should do nothing."
He added: "The credibility of the negotiations that begin in Bali hinges on the participation of major emitters in the developing world."
The US, backed by Japan and Canada, has said developing countries must take on commitments to curb emissions.
In a report last month, the UN Development Programme said developing countries should cut their emissions by 20 per cent by 2050, while rich countries should cut theirs by 80 per cent in the same time.
China, while resisting outright targets on cutting its emissions, has shown some willingness at the talks to consider ways to curb the growth of its emissions, if given incentives to do so. But India has argued against taking on any commitments, pointing out that its per capita emissions, and those of other developing countries, are much lower than in rich countries, which also bear more responsibility for the emissions already in the atmosphere.
While Mr Ban said he agreed that industrialised countries had to take the lead in combating global warming because of the "burden of their historic responsibility", he said "now is not the time to look back at what has happened in the past".
"We must look at the historic responsibility from the perspective of our great grand-children," said Mr Ban. "They will not question whether you were a developed or developing country. They will look at whether you showed leadership."
Instead of viewing climate change as merely an environmental issue, he said, "the developing world needs to ... begin approaching it as a development concern".
He said any "grand bargain" on climate change must include measures to help developing countries, including better funding for clean energy technologies and enhanced research and development co-operation and the transfer of clean technologies.
Mr Ban added that technologies exist to help countries cope with climate change "but what is missing now is political will". He also said world leaders need to think beyond their own narrow national interests.


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The Accounting minor includes two courses from the business core requirements to provide a basic foundation in accounting along with upper-division major requirements of Intermediate Accounting, Cost Accounting, and Federal Income Tax Accounting I.
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Anyone used this particular brand of cookware before?
I'm looking for a good quality non-stick 6L pot and 2.5L saucepan. Scanpan is on sale at David Jones. Some reviews online state that the non-stick coating comes off under high heat and that the cookware is not as durable. Others state that scanpan is good quality stuff.


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2011 Player Capsules: First Base, Third Base
You're killing me.
I say that with all due respect mind you. Let me tell you what I mean.
I sit at my computer all day, every day, typing away answering emails, writing articles, researching etc. It's a rather sad existence at times (who am I kidding, how great is it that I get to work in my slippers?). I'm used to long days, 12 hours is often the norm, so I'm not unfamiliar with onerous work schedules. So what did I mean when I led off this piece with "you're killing me?"
Simply put, my mailbox has been flooded with requests for the FREE player capsules I'm giving away. I'm borderline ecstatic at the response I've received, but at the same time I'm sending so many of these files back to you, the reader, that I needed to come up with a better plan moving forward. Hence, I'm going to be combing positions in order to cut down on the emails I'll need to send out.
In case you've missed it so far, here is how this all works.
(1) You stop by BaseballGuys.com – Fantasy Baseball Blog.
(2) You'll get a chance to review a handful of the players at the position of the day.
(3) You'll find a CODE at the end of the article.
(4) You'll take that CODE and email it to me at: email@example.com
(5) I'll send you back a neat and tidy PDF file with the top-50 or so players at the position that is under discussion for that day.
How does that sound to you?
The best part?
How about the cost… it's 100% FREE.
All I ask is that you tell a friend.
Again, to lighten the workload a bit, I figured I would combine corner infielders (1B, 3B) today.
Here are a few examples of what you will receive in the PDF.
Derrek Lee
When healthy he has rarely been great but he is almost always very good. In each of his last 10 healthy seasons he has hit at least 19 homers with 70 runs and 70 RBI. Those numbers don't sound exciting, but since 2000 his total of 10 such seasons leads all first basemen. Age is catching up with him, and he never runs anymore, but he is a safe option if you don't reach.
Aubrey Huff
Huff and the Rally Thong helped lead the Giants to the World Series, and they'll both be back for two more years in San Francisco. One of only four first basemen to hit .290 with 25 homers, 85 RBI and 100 runs, Huff rebounded from a disastrous 2009 to post his 7th 20-homer season and his 6th season of 85 RBI. If you pay for a repeat you should be on fairly solid ground.
Pablo Sandoval
Thinking the way to major league success was paved with pizza and profiteroles, Sandoval's weight was/is a major issue. The Giants have put Pablo on notice that if he can't see his toes, he could be sent to the minors. Just a year removed from an all-star caliber season, Sandoval would benefit from a more patient approach. Can weight loss help that?
The Corner Infielder code is: Plentiful Power
One last thing. For those of you looking for some baseball talk, you can click on this link to the DSD Podcast. I talked with Aaron and Karter about Adam Wainwright, Albert Pujols, Miguel Cabrera and other topics around major league baseball.
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Last week, trudging through the last dull, dog-eared days of this dying summer, I dreamt of fall and what political drama might be waiting for us.
I offered up a handful of possible pitfalls that might be lying in wait for the Mitt Romney campaign. Who knew his vice-presidential pick might emerge that quickly? (But more on that next week: Bye-bye, Florida.)
This time around, as promised, we take a look at the Obama-Biden ticket. But first, a couple of caveats.
For starters, I'd like to reiterate my argument that I think the Supreme Court ruling that backed the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act did the president more harm than good as far as November is concerned. This ruling galvanized the GOP base – and the majority of Americans who remain opposed to this legislation – and if the Republicans can keep this story on the front pages, then they have a real shot on Election Day.
Second, I must confess I don't expect much in the way of October Surprises on the Democratic side of things. And, over the course of the past week, I'm more and more convinced we might not get anything at all this year on either side. But in the interest of fairness, I must press on.
5 – His background. There are a lot of people who will tell you the press gave the president (then-candidate) a pass four years ago. And that his background remains largely uninvestigated – certainly compared to the ongoing examination Romney continues to endure. Whether it's Kenya, Hawaii or Chicago, the argument remains that something's there, but the media's simply been too enamored with Obama to pursue this any further than to run some old black-and-white photos and a few stories about smoking pot. Hell, I think I've got a few of those myself somewhere around here...
4 – The debates (veep's included). This gets talked about every election year, and these things rarely turn into game changers, but this year has more potential than most. For one thing, over the course of a dozen or so debates in a brutal primary battle, we saw Romney grow exponentially as a candidate. He went from a struggling, sometime front runner to someone who could outmaneuver Newt Gingrich – the student became the teacher. So seeing Romney tussle with someone as wily as the president onstage should make for great television – if only so much weren't at stake.
And I know on the vice-presidential side, we've got kooky Joe "Back on the chain gang" Biden slated for one round with Paul Ryan, but don't underestimate the crazy old uncle. He might lapse into forehead-smashing gaffes, but he'd managed to keep it together for a while there. Keep an eye on the lower halves of these tickets. I think there's some potential there.
3 – His administration. We've got Solyndra. We've got the fast and the furious (which wasn't even a good movie – why would you name a federal operation after it?). Who knows what else is there we simply don't know about – yet. Another scandal could just be waiting to break. Trust me, past elections have turned on less.
2 – The Middle East (or even the Far East). This one's tricky, for both the president and the GOP. The Republicans have been the "get tough" party for decades, so to hear them argue against Afghanistan or Syria is a little surreal. And, on the flip side, to hear a Democrat who once swore to get us out of Afghanistan drag his feet there while rattling his saber in the Middle East is equally off-putting. It's like some kind of political, unfunny, Freaky Friday remake.
I know, Afghanistan is just a matter of time. But I think Syria remains a potential flashpoint. And our naval buildup in the South China Sea (while certainly understandable) has international incident written all over it.
1 – The economy. But at the end of the day – or month (October) – I think this remains the fulcrum on which the entire election rests. As I've argued before, this election will come down to two numbers: the jobless rate and the price of gas. And while gas prices are more erratic than Lindsay Lohan, the number of unemployed has remained somewhat static. That's simply not good enough. And the Associated Press just reported this is the weakest economic recovery since World War II.
But what concerns me most is that the American public's gotten used to these abysmal economic indicators. That, in some Orwellian twist, lingering, chronic economic recession is the new norm, and that, to paraphrase an old literature teacher of mine, "The rich get rich and the poor get drunk." And they don't vote.


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Irish Catholic/ Kennedy family baby names?
Looking for a name for baby #6 with middle name of Elizabeth. If you were a product of Catholic school, a large Catholic family or grew up in a Catholic community, can you suggest some Irish Catholic or traditionally catholic names that come to mind?
My daughters are: Grace Catherine, Emma Caroline, Mary Clare & Elizabeth Marie (stillborn.) Super Irish names like Siobhan and Ciara are out for me bc I don't feel that they blend well with my set.
July 13th, 2013 09:55 AM #3
I am but none of the girls in my school really had traditional Catholic/saints names :/ And Liverpool is about as Irish as you can get without being in Ireland
Hmm... Names that I think fit your theme:
Margaret (and variants... Margo etc)
Clare (like the county)
Kerry (like the county)
Jory Leander Atticus, August Eli Benedict, Casimir Mordecai Stewart,
Edmond John Meirion, Horatio Ethell Emery, Bram William Jasper,
Julian Remy Charles, Vasiliy Lochlan Michael.
Aira Rose ___, Eleni Fiorella Charlotte, Sylvia Sayuri Noor,
Merit Eleanora Adelaide, Clover Elodie Seraphine, Bridie Scarlett Viola,
Marguerite Cecilia Iris, Eilidh Clara Valentine.
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MINIX 3.2.1 released
Posted Feb 23, 2013 2:32 UTC (Sat) by hadrons123 (guest, #72126) [Link]
Posted Feb 23, 2013 10:12 UTC (Sat) by mabshoff (guest, #86444) [Link]
Really? At lwn.net things are usually a little more substantiated than this rather thin attempt at trolling. You might want to read this sentence on the comment page:
> ''Please try to be polite, respectful, and informative, and to provide a useful subject line.''
While I would agree that the usefulness of Minix is limited given its 20+ years of development and the same applies to the Hurd IMHO, the BSDs, especially FreeBSD, certainly has its use. None of them have been able to compete with Linux for a general purpose system, but if you want filestorage or routing FreeBSD is a pretty decent option for example. There are just fewer development resources for the BSDs, so I plain and simply do not see them catching up to Linux anytime soon without some major miracle.
And the whole 'micro kernel are better' seems to have met the cold hard reality outside the ivory tower. Symbian's kernel got taken behind the barn and shot, QNX is struggling to grow, L4Sec has shipped a billion devices or so, but that is due to Qualcom's cellular radios only. So I see hardly a mircro kernel in a user visible system. [RT] Embedded Linux seems to have certainly curtailed the growth of RTOS and other embedded OSes.
Posted Feb 23, 2013 12:26 UTC (Sat) by hadrons123 (guest, #72126) [Link]
But what has this minix have really achieved?
I dusted my old P4 to see if this really works, but then I got kernel panic and the screen went blank. Didn't want to try anymore beyond that. Happened the same last year with the previous release. So practically pointless release with 2 CD wasted.
Posted Feb 23, 2013 12:57 UTC (Sat) by Zack (guest, #37335) [Link]
Well, presumably, AST is managing to scratch his itch by it, and the rest , I imagine, are having fun hacking on it and using it, which is all the justification a free software project would ever need when it comes to achievement.
Posted Feb 23, 2013 19:12 UTC (Sat) by patrick_g (subscriber, #44470) [Link]
Posted Feb 23, 2013 19:32 UTC (Sat) by Zack (guest, #37335) [Link]
Ostensibly, at least the release 3.2.1 of MINIX.
Posted Mar 12, 2013 22:08 UTC (Tue) by Baylink (subscriber, #755) [Link]
Posted Feb 23, 2013 14:15 UTC (Sat) by mabshoff (guest, #86444) [Link]
I would hardly see how anyone could interpret my reply in this way. I wrote about FreeBSD specifically and I thought made it clear that there is a difference. The Hurd as well as Minix are research systems IMHO. That is usually a nice way of saying that they tend not to go anywhere.
> But what has this minix have really achieved?
Not much TBH, you have for example actual implementations of network drivers that can be restarted upon crash and have its state restored, but I somehow have my doubts that this is really useful in the real world. It is neat, but unless you show that working on a storage driver I am less than impressed.
AST is 68, so I would be surprised if he keeps working on Minix much longer. He has gotten EU funding for resilient OS research, but it all looks like it will not really help the commercialization of Minix since I see no reason to pick it over Linux or a BSD even if that project bears fruit beyond nice demos, because its bad points (hardware support, performance, available talent) outweigh its potential plus points. The same applies to its ARM port which has been talked about for years and most people around here will know that ''it boots'' is quite different than ''it is stable and works well for real workload''. And it does not even boot on any ARM platform yet, much less on a wide variety of ARM platforms.
> I dusted my old P4 to see if this really works, but then I got kernel panic and the screen went blank. Didn't want to try anymore beyond that. Happened the same last year with the previous release.
Yeah, I am not surprised. Today's main problem for toy and research OSes is hardware support, so I see the potential tendency of them running well on hypervisors just like on the IBM 390 decades ago. But once you do that you kind of miss the point of running an alternative OS in the first place, i.e. if you do RT most of the potential goes away if you run it on top of say Xen.
> So practically pointless release with 2 CD wasted.
Maybe for you and most other people, but I am always surprised to meet people hacking on ''pointless'' code. It is really not my prerogative to come to that conclusion since it is not my time.
In the end I agree with you that Minix is pointless, but the brevity of your comment and the lumping in of the BSDs just made it look trollish. Had you written the second comment as your first I would have pretty much agreed with you.
Posted Feb 23, 2013 15:47 UTC (Sat) by ibukanov (subscriber, #3942) [Link]
With IOMMU visualization like Intel's Vt-d one can run a toy OS against a single piece of real hardware like a network card while the rest will be provided by a hypervisor. That can bear very useful results like isolation of increasingly complex network drivers and protocols behind a hardened special-purpose OS. This reduces the attack surface against other software running in the hypervisor.
Posted Feb 23, 2013 22:56 UTC (Sat) by mabshoff (guest, #86444) [Link]
Absolutely, but given that the Hurd does currently not have any USB support (At least it did not have it toward the end of 2012 even though I think that a USB DDEKit is being worked on also by the Minix folks) the IOMMU support for something like Hurd or Minix seems unlikely.
> That can bear very useful results like isolation of increasingly complex network drivers and protocols behind a hardened special-purpose OS. This reduces the attack surface against other software running in the hypervisor.
Yeah, I still think that if you took some of the ideas/goals from the Hurd and tried to implement them on top of the Linux kernel they would have gotten much further along, but then you would have had to compromise. These days there are plenty of userspace driver infrastructure bits in the Linux kernel. I cannot imagine that the theoretical advantage of the Hurd microkernel design will even pay off because most of the interesting bits can likely be done with the Linux kernel and no one should care about the boring driver bits, but the cool stuff.
Posted Feb 23, 2013 23:17 UTC (Sat) by ibukanov (subscriber, #3942) [Link]
I meant running Minix or other toy/research OS under a hypervisor like XEN or KVM that supports IOMMU so Minix could manage a piece of the real hardware like a network card. Such OS can implement complex network protocols or WIFI drivers isolating the rest of the system from bugs there.
I hope such setups would be more widespread allowing once again small teams or even a single person to try new OS ideas against latest hardware.
Posted Feb 23, 2013 23:41 UTC (Sat) by mabshoff (guest, #86444) [Link]
Ok, got your point. That certainly makes sense and if for example you think about VFIO coming from the Cisco folks it does not take much imagination why those folks were motivated to do that work since instead of porting their various routing OSes to various hardware platforms just take Linux with KVM and hand control of the networking hardware to the routing OS. That sidesteps the whole GPL issue and isolates the routing OS from the boring hardware bits.
> I hope such setups would be more widespread allowing once again small teams or even a single person to try new OS ideas against latest hardware.
I think it is already happening. I would be hard pressed to name a OS that does not run on VMWare, i.e. Haiku, the Hurd and Minix all run on top of it. Even OS/2 Warp and later is a supported configuration, but I might have thought about some earlier OS/2 releases which IIRC did some strange things in ring 2, but I am too tired to research it at this time.
I am not sure about the quality of those OSes running on top of say VMWare since I recall strange stability issues with FreeBSD 8.3 on some ESXi targets for example, but that is a different problem. Jump five years ahead and I cannot imagine anything but the various hypervisors being a mandatory target platform for any research OS out there. IIRC last year's linux.conf.au had a session about using Linux as the L4sec boot loader for example for some ARM target. That just sounds like an insane thing to do unless you think about what it would take to write all those drivers for L4sec I assume :p.
Posted Feb 23, 2013 17:45 UTC (Sat) by andreasb (subscriber, #80258) [Link]
Minix used to be a simple OS for teaching OS concepts (not researching, AFAIK). It tries to be usable as a general purpose (embedded) OS now, so that's not really an excuse anymore.
The Hurd is GNU's replacement for Unix, not a research project.
Research OSs may not go anywhere in most cases, however that does not make OSs that are not going anywhere research OSs.
Posted Feb 23, 2013 23:00 UTC (Sat) by mabshoff (guest, #86444) [Link]
True IMHO for Minix before the 3.0 release.
> It tries to be usable as a general purpose (embedded) OS now, so that's not really an excuse anymore.
Yeah, but I would consider the resilience work done via the EU grant mentioned above in a comment puts it into the research OS space. It certainly tries to be embedded, but I think AST is kidding himself if he believes that he can outcompete the BSDs, much less Linux or commercial options like QNX if one desires a pure RTOS.
Posted Feb 23, 2013 23:10 UTC (Sat) by mabshoff (guest, #86444) [Link]
> The Hurd is GNU's replacement for Unix, not a research project.
Well, it certainly started out as a intended Unix replacement to complete the GNU ecosystem since a GPLed kernel was the last missing piece. But looking at its history and detours with the attempted replacement of Mach with L4 and Coyotos I think they definitely strayed into the research space. It was probably never intended that way, but things tend to change a bit over 20 years :).
> Research OSs may not go anywhere in most cases, however that does not make OSs that are not going anywhere research OSs.
Yep. I still think it applies to both the current Hurd as well as Minix 3.0 to some extend, but the discussion about what is a research OS and what not is about as decisive as talking about hybrid kernels (see [1]), i.e. the NT as well as OSX kernels are prime example where nebulous claims just cloud up the whole discussion.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_kernel
Posted Feb 24, 2013 16:33 UTC (Sun) by keesj (subscriber, #55221) [Link]
I have started working for the MINIX 3 team about a year ago. I have mostly been busy with the ARM port. Having done a lot of Linux work in the past I think I might be able to answer some questions.
The design MINIX 3 allows drivers to crash just like other userland programs under Linux. If you do nothing special at best your driver will be restated. To make transparent restarability a fact you need to do some additional work like splitting your drivers to split the program state and the driver itself. This splitting has been done for at least network *and* block drivers. There is more work going on to allow hot replacement of components (The Linux analog would be something like ksplice but better).
Next week, at embedded world, we will be giving a restartability demo (running on ARM) of the crash and recovery of a graphics driver. This is quite unique and unseen feature in the Linux world. I think there is a market for MINIX 3 on ARM. The system is small and simple enough for people to tweak and modify to their own needs.
Hope this helps.
As last tip. If you have problems running MINIX 3 try interacting with the community. The only reason I still have CD's it probably because of MINIX :p
Posted Feb 24, 2013 17:22 UTC (Sun) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]
Linux GPU drivers have had support for hang detection and reset for _years_.
Posted Feb 24, 2013 21:02 UTC (Sun) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]
It seems that the biggest problem with all of this is that when the driver crashes it puts the hardware into a bad state were recovery is just not going to happen.
That is why I suppose people don't notice that hang detection and reset exists.
Posted Feb 25, 2013 10:09 UTC (Mon) by adobriyan (guest, #30858) [Link]
Oops inside kernel driver was always either-or event. If you're lucky, kernel continues to run, no restart needed!
Posted Feb 25, 2013 13:23 UTC (Mon) by ibukanov (subscriber, #3942) [Link]
Does MINIX support IOMMU when available to really prevent the driver from affecting the rest of the system?
Posted Mar 1, 2013 13:45 UTC (Fri) by renox (subscriber, #23785) [Link]
I doubt it, a googling showed this "Not assigned yet": http://wiki.minix3.org/en/StudentProjects/DependabilityIn...
But Genode/NOVA seems to have it: http://www.osnews.com/story/26819/Genode_13_02_supports_I...
Posted Mar 2, 2013 11:42 UTC (Sat) by keesj (subscriber, #55221) [Link]
No, this is not supported but would certainly fit design goals of MINIX.
Microkernels are better
Posted Feb 25, 2013 15:25 UTC (Mon) by Wol (guest, #4433) [Link]
Linux is written to be portable across multiple processors, but it started on Intel. It assumes it has just two rings available, a privileged ring for the kernel and an unprivileged ring for user space. And ON INTEL ring-switching is an expensive operation.
I worked on Pr1me 50-series, and Pr1mos was multics-based. The hardware was segmented-memory, and ring-switching was FAST FAST FAST. (Okay, in those days 1MHz hardware was fast! :-)
But put a microkernel on modern 50-series-style hardware, with the kernel in ring 0, the drivers in ring 1, and user-space in ring 3, and you'd probably have a system that could give a monolithic kernel a run for its money for speed, and blow it away for security.
(Pr1mos never got ported to Intel, shame, but I think the 386 (as it was then) was a very poor hardware match and they just couldn't get it to work.)
Cheers, Wol
Posted Feb 25, 2013 20:08 UTC (Mon) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]
It assumes it has just two rings available, a privileged ring for the kernel and an unprivileged ring for user space.
And this is related to Intel architecture... how exactly? Intel has four rings.
Okay, in those days 1MHz hardware was fast
Yup - and that's why ring-switching was FAST FAST FAST.
For that you need to first make such hardware. Think about it: quarter-century ago 1MHz (Ok, more like 3-4MHz) was "fast" but memory latency was about 150ns and today 1GHz (Ok, more like 3-4GHz) is "fast" but memory latency is about 15ns. How come memory speedup was just 10x but CPU speedup was 1000x? The answer is well-known, of course: bunch of caches and deep, deep, pipelining. This approach is pretty hard to combine with FAST FAST FAST ring switching: either you keep all the data for different rings "in the ready" all the time (which increses latency of, e.g., L1 cache from 3 ticks to 4 ticks) and slow down all the other things by 30-50%, too or you have slow ring switch but fast CPU.
I doubt 30-50% slower CPU with FAST FAST FAST ring switching can beat faster CPU no matter the OS: in the end most of the time spent doing "real work", not CPU ring switching even with microkernel.
Posted Feb 25, 2013 20:31 UTC (Mon) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]
Posted Feb 25, 2013 21:15 UTC (Mon) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]
Posted Feb 25, 2013 22:50 UTC (Mon) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]
It will get more and more complicated as the speeds go up, but it might be actually still feasible.
Posted Feb 25, 2013 23:56 UTC (Mon) by Wol (guest, #4433) [Link]
Firstly, you're going on about deep pipelines. Which causes processor stalls. Which was, I believe, a major reasoning for abandoning the Pentium 4 architecture - it was so prone to massive stalls it wasn't true.
And secondly, while I can't remember / don't know an awful lot about 50-series architecture, I don't understand why ring-switching should be slow. It's something to do with the memory segmentation, but the point was the segmentation gave you fast AND SAFE switching.
The Intel architecture won. Intel architecture cannot do a fast ring-switch. Doesn't mean that other architectures can't, doesn't mean that Intel architecture is the best. It just happened to be the one that gained the market share needed for network effects to knock out the competition.
If Pr1me hadn't lost out in the market, and had continued development of their cpus, I'm sure they could have taken advantage of all the same things as Intel, and we would expect fast ring-switching as a matter of course. Iirc, the difference in speed between a same-ring and a ring-switch call (for the second invocation, first was I believe somewhat slower) was pretty near nothing.
The Pentium 4 was the last gasp of the MegaHurtz wars - it wasn't a good architecture - it was a good marketecture which blew up badly in the real world.
Posted Feb 26, 2013 9:18 UTC (Tue) by renox (subscriber, #23785) [Link]
*:in x86-32 mode, it lost it in the x86-64 mode
Posted Feb 26, 2013 9:56 UTC (Tue) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]
It lost it before that. If you'll try to use segment with non-zero base address on Atom you'll see 4-5x slowdown. Other, larger, cores are not affected as much but still some operations become slower. AMD and Intel keep the segmentation supported for compatibility sake, but in reality it was already pushed to the slow-path before x86-64 was introduced. And situation is the same with fancy high-level instructions like BOUND. It's all uneven, of course: BOUND is fast on most AMD CPUs (may be on all, but I've not measured latest AMD creations) but it's fantastically slow on Intel CPUs.
That's what I'm talking about: fat is squeezed out of fast-path to raise CPU frequency.
Posted Feb 26, 2013 10:38 UTC (Tue) by Wol (guest, #4433) [Link]
iirc, assuming a 4K segment, addressing 4K+1 in segment 1 would get you the first byte of segment 2. On Primes, different segment meant different memory.
Posted Feb 26, 2013 10:46 UTC (Tue) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]
Didn't Intel use that to get round a small address bus? And wasn't it absolutely useless for security?
They are designed to be used for security and, e.g. OS/2 1.x used them for security. Sadly they broken the backward-compatibility on the way: you could use segments solely to extend memory or for security on 80286 — but not simultaneously. 80386 solved that problem but it introduced UNIX-like paging model and everyone forgot about segments.
You can do that on 80386, too: it really depends on how your GDT/IDT/LDT are arganized. You can even change sizes of segments on the fly. Actually this architecture was pretty sophisticated and flexible, but it was pushed to the slow-path (and eventually eradicated in x86-64) when AMD and Intel found out that nobody uses it.
Posted Feb 26, 2013 10:51 UTC (Tue) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784) [Link]
Posted Feb 26, 2013 9:48 UTC (Tue) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]
Well, it had 31 stages and was able to execute up to three μops. Which meant you need to always have almost hundred μops in flight. It was unfeasible. Today fastest CPUs have 16 stages and can execute up to four μops. That's two times smaller but still is pretty hard to keep all these pipes filled, yes. What's your point? That you can reduce size of the pipe and this will solve most problems? Yes, but speed will suffer: you'll have larger stages in the pipes and they will be naturally slower.
No matter how exactly switching is done it changes context. Either you need more context to keep all rings "in the loop" (which means larger pieces of CPU core which means slower frequency which means slower CPU overall) or you need to load and unload said context (which means ring switch is slow).
The Intel architecture won. Intel architecture cannot do a fast ring-switch.
Yes, but why do you think it's coincidence? It's not. The fact that Intel won the war may be an accident, but the fact that architecture which won can't do fast ring-switch is not a coincidence. The very some tricks which brings you more raw speed for the same price (and that is how Intel architecture won) make it harder to have fast ring switch.
Doesn't mean that other architectures can't, doesn't mean that Intel architecture is the best. It just happened to be the one that gained the market share needed for network effects to knock out the competition.
Yes and no. Intel architecture won because it was faster. And it was faster because it used tricks to make smaller CPU core pieces (that's the only way to keep frequency of CPU high enough) and to have smaller CPU core pieces you need smaller number of stuff in them.
If Pr1me hadn't lost out in the market, and had continued development of their cpus, I'm sure they could have taken advantage of all the same things as Intel, and we would expect fast ring-switching as a matter of course.
Nope. To make fast CPU you need to make it's synchronously-executing pieces small. And that means you need to push "useless fat" out of them. You make fast-path which only executes the most important pieces and slow-path which does everything else. Either you keep the machinery needed for optional rare things like ring switch in the fast path or you keep them on slow path. In the first case you have slow CPU (basically CPU has 2-3-4x slower frequency then streamlined AMD's, IBM's or Intel's CPU) in the second case you have slow ring switch.
P.S. PowerPC 601 had 32 KiB cache back in 1992. Latest and greatest Intel's CPU still have 32 KiB L1 cache. Think about it and about implications for fancy techniques (like GC support or fast ring-switching or… whatever can you stuff in the CPU core to simplify life for OS and pplication writers). Twenty years ago "fancy techniques" meant "bigger price" — and thus people used them where price was not the most important aspect. But fifteen or ten years ago (and most definitely today) trade-offs changes and "fancy techniques" started to mean "slower CPU". And people have chosen "faster CPU" over fancy techniques. The fact that all these interesting architectures have died off at that time and were replaced by dull AMD's, IBM's, Intel's (and for some time SGI's and Sun's) creations is not a coincidence.
Posted Feb 27, 2013 14:11 UTC (Wed) by gmatht (guest, #58961) [Link]
No matter how exactly switching is done it changes context. Either you need more context to keep all rings "in the loop" (which means larger pieces of CPU core which means slower frequency which means slower CPU overall) or you need to load and unload said context (which means ring switch is slow)."
Posted Feb 27, 2013 14:36 UTC (Wed) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]
How much context do we need per ring?
Enough to distinguish access from ring-0 to the access from ring-3, heh. Either you add tags to all the commands and all the data in the pipelines or you flush the pipeline after flush.
Basically the question is: if "mov [some_address], register" should succeed in ring-0 and fail in ring-3 then how do you detect this? Either you keep this metainformation near the information itself (that is: when you assign registers you now have 2-3-4x more physical registers and thus more complex logic to assign them) or you need to flush the pipeline after ring switch. First approach will mean larger core pieces (and thus slower CPU frequency), second approach will mean slow ring switch.
According to Wikipedia, ring switches can be relatively fast, presumably because they don't need to reload the page table.
The key word here is "relatively". If you flush the pipeline then there are 15-20 ticks stall and in that time CPU can execute about 30-40 simple commands.
Posted Feb 27, 2013 18:09 UTC (Wed) by ARealLWN (guest, #88901) [Link]
Posted Feb 27, 2013 18:57 UTC (Wed) by hummassa (subscriber, #307) [Link]
Posted Feb 27, 2013 20:34 UTC (Wed) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]
Intel won the war because they were the processor architecture used in the ibm pc.
Nope. Intel got money for the war because it built the architecture used in the ibm pc, that's true. But it won the war because it was faster. Do you think developers of monsters in top500 list care about ibm pc compatibility? Nope: they care about performance. And this list was dominated by x86 CPUs for years.
If you want to talk about what was faster, the DEC Alpha was faster then the Pentium.
For tasks with floating point — may be at first, but for tasks which only use integers it was actually slower. And when you compare Alpha 21364 with Pentium 4 HT 3.06… it was no longer faster even for floating point.
You could build a computer with a cheap risc cpu and a dsp that would have much better mips per dollar/pound/franc then something with an intel processor.
Then why people are not doing it? Take a look on the list once more: 75% Intel x86-64, 12% AMD x86-64, 12% IBM POWER, and 1% SPARC. Where are these risc cpus and dsps? Why there are so few of them in the list?
Posted Feb 27, 2013 21:51 UTC (Wed) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]
This is why small companies like Transmeta folded, they were compatible, but they didn't have the R&D budgets and manufacturing capability to compete with Intel. AMD is barely hanging on, and if Intel hadn't made the Itanioum blunder (leaving the gap open for the AMD-64 chips), I doubt if AMD would have survived.
network effects matter, when everyone is running binary software, being binary compatible matters. Since the IMB PC became the standard, any chips that weren't PC compatible became marginal and the popularity -> money -> R&C -> speed -> popularity cycle started.
With mobile devices NOT being x86 compatible, we are seeing a resurgence in competition at the architecture level again for consumer devices (enabled by Linux's cross platform support), and Microsoft and Intel have been trying for years to ignore and block this, but now they are having to really recognize the competition.
Posted Feb 27, 2013 22:07 UTC (Wed) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]
Since the IMB PC became the standard, any chips that weren't PC compatible became marginal and the popularity -> money -> R&C -> speed -> popularity cycle started.
Sure, but even if you have enough money you are still constrained by law of physics.
With mobile devices NOT being x86 compatible, we are seeing a resurgence in competition at the architecture level again for consumer devices
Sure, but will fast ring switching survive this push? I very much doubt it. Note that POWER (which actully slightly faster then x86 although more expensive) is also not all that fast with the context switches AFAICS.
Posted Feb 27, 2013 22:41 UTC (Wed) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]
This includes to a large extent, being produced on the most advanced fab processes, if you took the competing designs and produced them at the same resolution that Intel uses for their x86 chips, they would be much smaller, cheaper, faster, and use significantly less power than they currently do. The fact that with all these handicaps they are competitive to Intel chips in many uses is a good indication of how bad the x86 architecture is.
Posted Mar 1, 2013 1:22 UTC (Fri) by ARealLWN (guest, #88901) [Link]
Posted Feb 28, 2013 15:20 UTC (Thu) by deater (subscriber, #11746) [Link]
I did. Notice in the November 2012 list that Intel doesn't make the top 5 at all. Yet Power and SPARC do, both considered RISC chips by most people I think (although Power is debatable).
x86 got to the top just because of economies of scale and because it is good enough, relatively cheap. Being able to buy things off-the-shelf does help. Having spent some time in an HPC group I can tell you that x86 is used because it's there, not because it has any real benefits. How long has it taken them to get a fused multiply-add instruction?
Posted Mar 1, 2013 2:23 UTC (Fri) by ARealLWN (guest, #88901) [Link]
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Posted Feb 24, 2013 1:45 UTC (Sun) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link]
As a advocate of preserving the English language (what's left of it), I implore you: please don't say things like that.
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Posted Feb 26, 2013 3:33 UTC (Tue) by jbv (guest, #66170) [Link]
Uhm, your substitution doesn't seem to improve the sentence?
$ echo "Another pointless software" | sed -e 's/a/an/g' Another pointless softwanre
What about s/s s/s piece of s/ or s/software/operating system/
Posted Feb 26, 2013 3:46 UTC (Tue) by jbv (guest, #66170) [Link]
You meant to change "As a advocate" to "As an advocate".
Your substitution still only works for humans though.
Posted Feb 26, 2013 16:01 UTC (Tue) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link]
My intent was to point out that the word "software" defines an abstract concept and cannot be instantiated as "another software." "A software" is incorrect as well. "Two softwares" is right out.
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* comes with clang 3.1 as the default system compiler * boots fine in VirtualBox, installer has a pretty ascii progress bar * pkgin binary package manager isn't too bad - more intuitive than a lot of the BSD package tools (no random environment variables to set, just works like 'brew') * available packages is really sparse - 254 packages, of which 5 are for building win32 binaries
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But, to be honest, when I see things like "AHCI support", "USB keyboard support", having to restart network services, not getting to partition SCSI disks by default, etc. on that same page, it puts me off even trying.
I know that we can't just suddenly arrive at the cutting edge of technology with something like this but it's still confined to the technology of the 90's and tasks which don't run on "real" computers, as far as I can see. Even the X-server is still quite old and there's no working autoconfig from what I can see (the days of me fiddling with X modelines are long gone, I'm afraid) - certainly the "how to install in a VM" article suggests you get down and dirty with modelines, lose 6 pixel columns, and all sorts of other nastiness just to get a graphical screen.
Though I happen to believe there's nothing *wrong* with MINIX - I'm even sure the kernel design is more secure if the same effort were to go into it as into, say, Linux - I don't see quite what it provides in real life yet. It's still just a toy.
FreeDOS took years to get there but is a viable DOS alternative that's present in the real world (I know of several IT resellers who will give you FreeDOS if you specify "No OS", just so you can verify it works and is what you were given, not to mention the number of BIOS update disks that rely on it and you can pretty much run any DOS program ever on it and have it work just as well as it would under MS-DOS).
But MINIX is still stuck in the dark ages in terms of actual physical hardware support, and user-friendliness, it seems. And if you can't boot it (AHCI support only in this release!) then you can't use it. Hell, Windows XP was the last OS that wouldn't boot from AHCI drives directly and even that had ways to make it happen (usually involving switching to IDE mode first and installing the AHCI driver, then rebooting and putting it back into AHCI mode). Nowadays, computers don't even tend to come with an option to put things back into IDE mode.
I think we do need MINIX in the world, but I'd be much happier if it was a world where it worked on even quite old physical hardware without needing a lot of faffing about.
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Nashat l 3ilmi ---> tawalud 3inda l 7ayawan ---> we got Mr Bull & Mrs cow for mamals & Mr Rooster & Mrs Hen for oviparous'
I am now faced with daily occurances of men walkin around in the tightest of jeans, with hair curled and straightened wearing 'manly long coats' and so called 'man handbags' delicately held on their forearms, and now there are long dangling necklaces i see too.....now excuse me to go ouside and scream......
arrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhh same here!!!! i feel that i can no longer sight any males in my vicinity!!! except for those very rare ones who decide to dress more masculine and SPEAK more masculine.. none of those at uni though i can tell ya that much.. *sigh*
Omg its just soooo sad but da scale of it is just worryin :S well at least der r some 4rm da east dat don't dress like dat....yet :P
ehem ehem lol
it's a freaky freaky environment nowadays
mini91 wrote:
OMG on the news an 8 year old girl was raped by two 10 year old boys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YA ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What has this world come too??!!
omg its sooooo scary how our societies have sunk so low for something so filthy to happen by kids..........KIDS!!!!!!!!!! who were once upon a time innocent but now.......
omg im lost for words..... lost....
I'm sorry but our country is a country which contains human beings made of flesh and blood.
Every country has stories like this sometimes even worse things happen, like kids murdering kids.
To say that this is appaling, with that I totally agree, and where the influence came from to commit such a henious act, God knows.
Could be a movie they saw could be something else who know kids that age are very influencable.
To link that horrendous crime with our societies, with that I disagree.
We have a beautifull society and we still have ra7ma in our hearts.
If your thirsty or even hungry the first door you knock on on Moroccan soil will open with hospitality and greetings.
Try to do that in some other countries.
To come to a conclusion please don't generalize.