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loyola maroon Vol. XLVII Loyola University, New Orleans, La., 70118, Friday, October 2, 1970 No. 5 Religious institute to aid new developments By ALY COLON Maroon Staff Reporter May cost $700,000 The establishment of an Institute of Religious Studies at Loyola will lead to the possible expenditure of $700,000 in the next five years, according to the Rev. Joseph A. Tetlow, S.J., acting dean of the College of Arts and Sciences. Father Tetlow, who recommended the establishment of the institute, said he had made the proposal because "with the development in religious studies and theology, it has become clear that it is time to move and establish this institute of Religious Studies because once we establish the institute, these developments will be encouraged and pulled along." One such development he cited was the increasing interest in the study of religions even by people who are not religiously oriented. Loyola's Board of Directors has already commited itself to the concept of establishing such a program. At its meeting of September 17, the board asked that a feasibility study be made to establish specific plans for the institute. According to Father Tetlow,, the institute would have two functions: the improvement of the present religious studies program offered during the regular academic year (the institute would offer a summer program); and the creation of a master's degree in religious studies. The degree, according to Father Tetlow, would be a "service function to the South since there is no master's degree in a Catholic college south of St. Louis." He feels that Loyola could become one of the most exciting centers of religious studies in the country. In determining the cost of such a program, the indirect costs-library holdings, secretarial services, buildings and offices and direct costs- faculty salaries-were taken into consideration he said. The two add up to a possible outlay of $700,000 between now and 1975, Father Tetlow said. This though represents an extreme estimate based on the way other programs have developed and it does not include tuition input. Father Tet low explained. The fact that the proposed institute would provide for a master's program seems to present a direct conflict with a recent report of the Council for Academic Planning. That report, outlining Loyola's academic plans through the 1970'5, urged holding the line on the formation of new graduate study programs. When questioned as to why the master's program was being proposed in view of the CAP report, Father Tetlow replied that in his view, his proposal did not contradict the CAP report since: 1. )the idea of a master's program was existent before the final CAP report came out; 2.) the CAP was really concerned with Ph.D. programs, Father Tetlow said, and what is planned for the institute is a masters; and 3.) the CAP report was talking about the academic year and the masters degree would be a summer program. "My own attitude is contrary to the CAP report," said Father Tetlow. "I do not think that the CAP report is the best intelligence that we could have. 1 just don't agree with it." There is an ingredient in Loyola's program that is not in the others, he said. Loyola already has a communications program international in scope. This program, he said, probably will be central to the religious studies masters degree to be given during the summer since the practice and .theory of religious electronic communication will be studied. Father Tetlow added that "this is an area of real activity in Catholic education today and indeed in religious education. As a college which is one the one hand developing toward a full program in religious studies and on the other as a college which ought to be leading the way in this particular development, I felt that Loyola should move at this time to set up an Institute of Religious Studies. THE REV. JOSEPH TETLOW, S.J New senators elected In what has been considered a mild upset, the university faculty of the various colleges elected 19 members to the Faculty Senate last week, sweeping at least 18 incumbents from their seats while another four faced possibe defeat in run-offs. In all, there were a total of 10 run-offs resulting from last weeks vote, with the run-off ballots to have been counted Thursday afternoon. However, the results were not known at press time. In Group I of Arts and Sciences, which includes the social sciences, there was only one run-off. Peter Cangelosi, an incumbent, faced Conrad Raabe. In Group II of A&S, which includes the physical sciences, the following faculty members were in run-offs: Rev. Roland Lesseps, S.J.', Dr. David Kieffer, Dr. Carl Brans, Dr. Walter Moore, Ray Witham, Rev. Robert Ratchford, S.J., Rev. F.A. Benedetto, S.J., Dr. Lee Gary, and Rev. John H. Mullahy, S.J. In Business Adninistration the following were facing run-offs: Dr. Irving Fosberg, F. Keller Riess, Allen Newman, Francois Gravois. Those who won Senate seats on the first ballot were: A&S I: Patrick Bourgeois, Judith Cooper, Herbert Graf, Allan Jacobs, Bernard Cook, Rev. James Pillar, 0.M.1., Dr. Manuel Carballo, Rev. Fmile Pfister, S.J., Rev. Louis Poche, S.J., Veronica Egan, Rev. Henry Montecino, S.J., Rev. Forrest Ingram, S.J., Dr. Jon Lowry, Paddy Doll, Sr. Fara Impastato, O.P. A&S Group II: Dr. Robert McLean. Music School: Dr. Patrick McCarty, Charles Braswell. Business Administration: Alan Boudreaux, Dr. Arthur Rayhawk. Law School: Dennis Kousseau, Thomas Sponsler, Janet Riley. City College results are not known at this time. SC ratification set Tuesday By DONNA SEGARI Maroon Staff Reporter Backers of the Student Council's proposed new constitution will again try to get the constitution ratified at next Tuesday's council meeting. All sections of the new constitution were approved Tuesday by the memo*!! on a section by section basis. The constitution could not be ratified at this week's meeting however since only 24 members out of the 28 necessary for ratification were present. If and when the constitution is ratified by a two-thirds vote of the council (28 voles), it must be sent to the office of Dr. Frank Wagar. vice president for student affairs, for approval. If Dr. Wagar approves it. the constitution must then be approved in a referendum by a simple majority of the voting student body. Not until it is approved by all three bodies will it become the new constitution. The most outstanding section of the constitution, according to council members, is the section which states that the council has the power to take "any action deemed by its members to be necessary and proper lo the effective operation of the Student Government Association." \lembers compared this section to the elastic clause of the U.S. Constitution, which allows Congress to make laws it feels are necessary lo carry out its duties. (A complete text of the council constitution, as approved this week, appears on page 5.) In other action, members of the Student Council requested appropriations for five groups: $500 for the student chorale in the College of Music, $500 for Alpha Pi Omicron to purchase new movie equipment. $500 for the sociology club; $300 for National Music Therapy; and $100 to Peter Cangelosi, assistant professor of history, to repay a loan made to the council last year. The council tabled a motion made by Ashton O'Dwyer to censure the Rev. David Boileau, director of the Institute of Human Relations, for his statement urging unionization at Avondale. O'Dwyer's motion will be discussed at the next meeting. Dickhaus cites CFE experience "It was a tremendous experience for the university," Jerome Dickhaus, vice president for development, says when he assesses (he Campaign for Excellence. The campaign, a three year project to raise $11.9 million for campus construction, renovation and program improvement, ended last year. While the CFE raised approximately $6.9 million or only half of its goal, Dickhaus does not feel that this necessarily brands the CFE project as a failure. In determining the accomplishments of the CFE, Dickhaus cites the fact that it raised more money than ever before for Loyola and gave the university some real experience in conducting campaigns. The CFE was Loyola's first major fund-raising drive. Additionally, the campaign trained the men involved to understand the many methods of fund-raising, Dickhaus says. These included making people aware of the need and then getting their interest, involvement and support; it identified donors; and established connections with potential contributors. The tradition of giving large sums of money, which was not too prevalent in the past, was developed by CFE, Dickhaus says. In previous years there had only been annual fund-raising projects which raised money for operating expenditures only. This did not provide for renovations and new buildings. With the emergence of CFE Loyola made others aware of its needs and was able to expand its horizons, he said. Dickhaus believes that the CFE "did a magnificent job with the time and experience they had." When questioned about the land owned by Loyola in Jefferson Parish which could be considered as a source of revenue, Dickhaus replied that no definite plans had been made concerning its future use. At present, a development committee is meeting every week in order to establish plans for raising money for a new law school and for other major needs of the university. JEROME DICKHAUS A second chance at education By MIMI GRIFFITH Maroon Staff Reporter One of the less radical wings of the women's liberation movement is running a quiet revolution from a small, windowless office in Marquette Hall. Loyola's Continuing Education for Women, a first in the New Orleans area, has brought 64 adult women into the university community this fall. According to the program's director and originator, Mrs. Eleanor Brener, the program offers mature women "a new dimension to life" by enabling them to return to school. How does an older woman feel when she comes to Loyola as a student, especially if it has been many years since she has attended school9 Mrs. Sybilla Tramontana, a participant in the program, admitted that she was "a little apprehensive" at first. A mother of three children, Mrs. Tramontane's life has been filled with the rich experience of family life and community service during the nearly 30 years since she graduated from high school. But she came to college because she fell "it was time to fulfill a lew of my own personal ambitions." Mrs. Tramontana's ambition is creative writing, so she enrolled in Great Works I, a freshman English course which concentrates on novels. While Mrs. Tramontana is most interested in writing poetry, she said she finds her course very rewarding because it gives her a chance to write essays and papers. Mrs. Brener said that many adult women have a "sore thumb feeling" when they attend class with younger college students. She suggested that the other students' extra friendliness might help alleviate an older woman's apprehension due to her age and feelings of incompetence. Mrs. Tramontana, whose youngest son is also a college freshman, said she was not worried about getting along with the younger students. She was however a little concerned with "how they would accept me." But after the first few classes, she said her doubts were dispelled. According to Mrs. Brener, the main thrust of Continuing Education for Women is to enable women to "build their own person" without having to sacrifice home responsibilities. She said one of the byproducts was often an increased understanding between parent and child because of the common experience- both rewards and frustrations-of attending school. Mrs. Tramontana said she has learned a great deal about students in the past month of classes. She said she had had "the mistaken notion that all students just sat around and talked about the world without making an effort to improve the situation." Despite the years she has spent as the mother of college students, Mrs. Tramontana said she was "pleasantly surprised" at the number of students involved in community projects to improve race relations and teach the mentally retarded. Another experience Mrs. Tramontana shares with most students is her preference for a small discussion class, rather than a large, impersonal lecture class. She said she likes to be able to exchange ideas in a class with different types of people. Mrs. Tramontana and other adult women like her need special attention while they are finding their way in a new and demanding environment. The mature woman who has been away from school for a long time finds Mrs. Brener a source of encouragement and practical academic advice. Having just graduated from Newcomb College in 1968, the same year her daughter graduated from another school, Mrs. Brener can readily anticipate the problems encountered by women who are obtaining their higher education at a mature age. Continuing Education for Women offers special services to the older women to make it easier for her to get her feet wet at college. Among these services is the bypassing of the ordinary procedures for registration and payment. All the details of enrolling at Loyola are taken care of personally by Mrs. Brener. I Ik, director said the mayhem at registration and lines al finance were enough to daunt an eager, young freshman not to mention an o'der woman who is still not sure college is the right thing for her. As an incentive to take the first plunge, the program offers the first course at half the tuition of the regular day school. Aptitude tests and vocational guidance are also available. When Mrs. Brener initially began the program for women's education, she had assumed thai its main appeal would be to women like herself and Mrs. Tramontana. Like many women, Mrs. Brener said she was "undereducated"-she married and raised a family after attending a year of college. However, she has found that the program has attracted women for several other reasons. Many women have inquired into the Continuing hducation program to obtain new skills for better jobs. Others have just recently completed high school through adult study and are anxious to continue their education. Mrs. Brenei said that black women, "whose separate and unequal education has held them back," are especially welcome to participate. The program also enables divorcees and widows "who could live in the past to a depressing degree to choose this as a way to live in the present and look to the future," Mrs. Brener said. She said the university and the New Orleans community have been very receptive and cooperative in this venture in adult education. As part of the campaign to let the community know about its special brand of women's lib, Continuing Education for Women will air a special program on television next week. Entitled "Woman's Second Chance Education," the half-hour, color program will be shown twice on WYES," Channel 12: Monday evening, October 5, at l): 30 p.m., and Friday, October 4, at 6:30 p.m. WYKS has indicated an interest in expanding the presentation to a weekly series if the response from the public justifies it, according to Mrs. Brener. MRS. ADELE BENSON Not so sore a thumb after all
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Hi all,
If you know me in the real world or even here on TA you'd know I'm pretty passionate about the image of atheism, deconversion and evangelical atheism. A christian friend pointed me to a video (which you can watch here) by Greta Christina today that made me realize that there is a bit of a gap, a chasm, between what I believe and what most atheists believe that could probably be easily filled by a little clarification. Then, I realized, this might in fact be the key to addressing the larger, over-arching issue of anger amongst atheists and whether or not this is a good approach for evangelical atheists.
It just never occurred to me that this point of distinction even needed to be made, but listening to Great and the crowd watching I realized I had made a bad assumption. No, this distinction does in fact need to be made clear. Great gets it, so I'll try to recast her point here in the context of deconversion.
Adherents and their apologists who are angry about atheist anger are just trying to take away the one ingredient responsible for all social change. I took this as a given, but many don't realize that almost every major social movement, from women's rights, to the queer movement, to civil rights; have all been built on "righteous" anger. "Righteous" anger is a special breed of anger that, unlike unhealthy anger, is clearly justifiable. It is the expression of anger, imo, by an emotionally healthy, mature adult.
But what has concerned me is that I get the impression that all too many atheists are not applying this anger constructively. Rather, there is an almost immature, temper tantrum manner in which this gets expressed publicly.
My argument is that to be effective we must learn to channel that anger into something constructive, which means having the maturity and emotional stamina to refrain from public outbursts of anger and rather channel that anger into a social movement of change; of evangelical atheism which includes that unpopular topic of deconversion.
Atheists must learn that anger is a transformative force that can be used for constructive change. But this means being mature and learning how to express anger appropriately in public. There is a difference between anger expressed privately and anger expressed in public. Expressing anger in public is ill-advised if the only thing being expressed is anger. On the other hand, expressing how and why the things that anger you are reason for change is what we should be doing.
So, to be clear, my concern about the manner and tone of the "new atheists" movement comes about as a result of this realization, the same thing that Greta explains in her video much better than I can. And she also points out that when people demand that we "tone it down" they are really trying to take away from us the one thing that fuels social change. They are really just trying to "shut us up" and are doing what every reactionary element has done in the face of social change that begins to truly challenge status quo. For any role I've played in that I regret it and hope I don't do that anymore.
For my part I am so accustomed to refraining from expressing this anger publicly that I have to catch myself sometimes even in private conversations, especially with adherents, when I say, "oh, I'm not really angry about that". Well, I am, but I choose to refrain from expressing naked anger in public as it is counter-productive. When expressed publicly anger should, imo, be channeled as a constructive conversation used to persuade, not defame us and alienate adherents. So, the litany of things that anger us are valid things to talk about, I just think we should be careful in public how we frame it.
I'd like to thank my Christian friend for pointing me to this video and I'd like to know what others think about this. In particular, do you express your anger with religion differently in public and private?
- kk
Kir - there's no need for any kind of fanaticism. What these are is fully-fledged religious ideas, without a creator God. I'm fully into it, and I don't think I'm a fanatic. Being a fanatic would seem to be anti-life, and this is anti-anti-life. If anyone is interested in seeing what I've got so far, the working notes are being kept at this link:
Some parts are more developed than others.
Don't expect it to make sense right away. I suggest reflecting on the ideas and then putting them into practice for a few months, before you make your mind up about them.
Hey Simon,
Yea!!!! Yes, I'm practicing .... slowly - kk
kk - it takes time, and it could well get you in trouble. I for one don't care, I see it as a mark of honour.
Hey Sarah,
I think you are exercising free thought in a wonderfully objective way and not letting the messengers drown out the message. I commend you for that. Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King talked about righteous indignation and how to channel that. So did Mahatma Ghandi, and their movements enjoyed considerable success that continues developing to this day. I think their model is key.
If someone "unfriends" you either it is a misunderstanding or it is of no loss to you because you have done the due diligence to learn and understand, approaching atheists almost submissively and meekly to learn and keep an open mind. My own two cents is that you should keep doing what you're doing and yes, we should all have this conversation.
- kk
Hey Sarah,
And I think this is a tricky line in the sand. As Greta said it so well, we have to find ways to bring these very good arguments about why religion is a bad thing into a conversation in which respect for the feelings of others, and for where they are coming from, is also apparent. In particular, it might help to thinkn of adherents as much like ourselves at a different place in the journey. I hate to say it this way, but adherents truly do need our help, not our condemnation. From everything I have seen, it is very, very hard to make this transition and adherents that do it are some of the most courageous people I know.
I think it is possible to calmly and rationally argue why religion is not really good for humanity without condemning or insulting the person. and to do so while respecting the difficult position the adherent is in. The effect of religious persuasion and compulsion is powerful and it obviously tears at the heart of human beings. I think if we keep that in mind managing our anger with adherents it becomes much easier and we find that we can make good, reasoned and calm arguments for deconversion.
So, I do agree with your point about understanding where "deseekers" (not a word, I know) are coming from and we need to appreciate that they are victims of religion just as atheists are, though on different sides of the cauldron.
- kk
I personally think that looking at a long term approach that focuses on the process of becoming a more mature and reasonable person is very important.
My two older brothers had become atheists over the course of several years and my reaction was to go extreme in the other direction. That had more to do with family dynamics at the time and I was trying to win approval from my parents since I was a teenager when my brothers "rebelled" to use my parent's perspective at the time. I became a highly devout mormon (even more "fundamentalist" than my parents ever were) for about 9-10 years.
But it wasn't until around when I was 25 and living away from home at college that the cracks and flaws with mormonism began to exhibit themselves. It still took me until I was 35 to put the puzzle pieces together and "break the god-spell (gospel)"
Two people that helped me greatly were co-workers I had in Taiwan that were both atheists from America. One was a white guy and one was a racially diverse guy. (black and white like Obama with a similar family makeup of a white mom and black dad but his parents have stayed together and are great people)
Anyway, the racial component may or may not be relevant but I include it just for detail that may or may not help with the story. That's up to you to judge. The white guy had the angry atheist kind of attitude on a fairly regular basis and would question me with an attitude of mostly covert contempt for mormonism and religion in general but we still had many civil conversations.
The racially diverse co-worker had a much different approach. He was a much more mellow guy that just seemed generally content and happy with life. When we had conversations he would use more of a Socratic approach to the claims I was making about god etc.
He would ask questions but not preach at me or get angry at any of the non-sense claims that I would make. His approach helped me a lot more than the white co-workers or even my own brothers when they had tried to talk with me in the past. He just focused on questioning my logic and "how" I came to know things that I was claiming or believing at the time.
Also, he would just laugh it off in a kind way when I would say stuff like "god says blah blah in this passage of the bible etc. with questions like "how do you know what god is thinking?" and similar questions to that. I really appreciated that he never made me feel bad for having non-sense beliefs. He let me figure that out on my own over time. So I'm a big advocate of taking a long, kind and gentle approach when talking with any theist about religion.
I'm a somewhat impatient person sometimes and have the "wishful and delusional" desire that people would just fucking "wake up" already but then I remember my own history and the time it took for me and I try to tone down my anger greatly and focus on just caring about and helping others to think but also "feel" out ideas more clearly and logically.
Ok this has turned into a book length post and I apologize for that. hahahaha May you be stress free and just unwindulax. (30 Rock reference for those not familiar with the show) Life is sweet on free and clear thinking street. :)
Hey Sarah,
I've used phrases like, "Religion must go" or "religion must be extirpated" but the statements are qualified and I agree that religion will never go away completely. And I agree that progress can be made in our ability to coexist. Having said that, Greta pointed out that religion is unique and I agree with her. For example, I've noticed in discussions online, especially those that mirror deconversion conversations, that those who are entrenched in their religious convictions do in fact tend to obfuscate the obvious whenever it serves to question their beliefs. In this sense, religion is unique and I fear that the tension between adherents and atheists would still exist even if every atheist in the world were as respectful and polite as possible. And the reason is that the views of adherents simply do not admit well of rational challenge, and that creates greater tension when a large majority of the population holds these views. And that majority mentality emoldens the mistreatment of atheists. Majority status kind of guarantees that every conversation with an adherent, unless they are open to the possibility of deconversion, will result in two different conversations with both sides talking past each other.
So, I think the question of coexisting is an important one that is different in certain key respects from the idea of mass deconversion. In the case of coexistence, I agree that I think we can better understand each other's views and get along better. The evidence from Europe, for example, seems to show this. There atheism is not nearly as controversial which I think is largely due to the fact that religiosity overall is not as common. Which takes me back to deconversion. The true goal of mass deconversion, imo, should be to change these proportions at least enough to help faciliate this mutual understanding (and I believe it would).
No surprisingly, research shows that deconverts tend to be people with a particular personality type and, acknowledging that everyone can't be deconverted, which is essentially what you've said, I think, means that one must seek the lowest hanging fruits for deconversion. My mom was right about that. And the research shows that personalities that have the highest affinity for the so-called trait of "openness to new experiences" are the most likely to deconvert. It's uncanny how my mom and her family discovered things that research only supported years later, something her and I have been trying to formalize in updating deconversion methods (the playbook I wrote, which, really, we wrote).
The rest will remain adherents and I think our ability to understand and coexist with them will be improved when more deconversion in this country happens. In purely practical terms, I think the key to better understanding is simply having a greater proportion of those in the conversation who are deconverted.
So, your point is well taken, I guess I would merely add to that the need for more deconversion in order to change the proportions of believers to non-believers, as I see that as a critical component of mutual understanding. The righteous indignation (anger) will be there as it should be, but I believe, the best way to channel that is by deconversion as that has the biggest practical impact. And we can contribute to deconversion in a plethora of ways. Some may do it directly, as I do, or some may contribute to that in other, more subtle but equally powerful ways. Simply participating on this site is one of many ways.
- kk
Sarah - I agree, the two approaches are poles apart, and very distinct. Atheists seem to think that science can solve everything, while religious people can seem shy of science, which is, literally, an irrational stance.
What if we can have an atheist God, based on rationality? If we have that, then the two frameworks can merge, coexist, communicate, and thankfully, inform each other fruitfully for both sides.
Hey Nate,
The racially diverse co-worker had a much different approach. He was a much more mellow guy that just seemed generally content and happy with life. When we had conversations he would use more of a Socratic approach to the claims I was making about god etc.
I agree, I think the patient, longer-term approach of questioning and reflection is more effective. I've never seen anyone deconvert in response to the expression of anger alone. It sounds like your Socratic friend was/is a wise person.
- kk
Hey Sarah,
Spot on again. And all of that is about channeling one's anger constructively, imo. Calling the book the "God Delusion", in my opinion, is an immature cheap shot and your suggestion for a title was great. Dawkins could have said the same thing with different words.
But let me defend the Dawkins crowd for a sec (yep, believe it). In Europe this kind of "shock" treatment gets headlines that espouse very different reactions when the proportion of adherents is different. I think Dawkins is a product of his culture. Sam Harris doesn't have much of an excuse, he's just playing the role of sycophant a#$ clown and does not appreciate the common foundation you mention, in my little heterodox opinion. I respect him and I don't mean that personally, its just the role he is, wittingly or not, playing.
- kk
He is a very wise person and I consider him one of the greatest people I have ever met in my life. We are still friends but only over the Internet now because of distance etc.
I guess I was one of the low hanging fruit that was able to de-convert. But the real question is how did you know I have low hanging fruit? :P hahaha
I think that the anger and righteous indignation are the first parts of dealing with the grief. Identity suicide is a term I have heard when it comes to de-converting.
When I was first going through the transition I had a lot of anger and bitterness about the multitude of deceptions that I was raised with and that were part of the larger American culture of religion having special privileged (mostly christian churches) status over others.
I had to process out a ton of lame ideas that were in my head. Of course I still have more to figure out over time but that is not a stressful thought to me like it was at first.
However, now I have very little anger and just mostly annoyed by religion occasionally. Life is too short to waste on small minded people whether they are religiously minded or not.
I can enjoy so much more of life since the doors are now open in my mind. I have found that I really appreciate all human cultures more and really like discovering new music, people etc. now that I have no artificial walls stopping me from my core explorative human nature. :)
Hey Nate,
Identity suicide
Yup, and it is. The difficulty in deconversion is that beliefs of this nature are what social psychologists call "core beliefs", beliefs that are not amenable to change. Some argue they are, for the most part, inherited. So, a deconvert has to rebuild thier identity in such a way that is consistent with their core belief system or tendency. Very hard to do.
The "secret" to deconversion is getting someone to challenge their own core beliefs using the authority of their own core beliefs (creating internal inconsistency); hence the reason for asking an adherent to use their own god to confirm that this identification of the "trueness" of a god is arbitrary and probably false. There's no need to prove it or debate, just illustrate how it looks. The core belief will do the rest of the work.
I can enjoy so much more of life since the doors are now open in my mind. I have found that I really appreciate all human cultures more and really like discovering new music, people etc. now that I have no artificial walls stopping me from my core explorative human nature. :)
Well said. I can't imagine what it would be like to have my mind locked into a rigid set of constraints.
- kk
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Very nice, my only concern is, how hot does the amp get in that small place? I had an old Yamaha that sounded great but died recently because I think it got too hot.
It's been there for afew months now (maybe 5 or 6) and hasn't skipped a beat. Never gets HOT, just warm - which i'd expect of an amp. If it starts to get hotter due to my case being there (Which i doubt as that's like 30c max), then i'll look at some methods.
Do you ever have your music crazy loud? My amp even in a well cooled area will start jibbing out if I have my music loud
Not 'crazy load', no. The room it's in is a fair bit below room temperatures. It only gets warm, never hot.
I'm guessing you would have know if it does or doesn't have it, but my old man has an onkyo amp (can't remember the model) and it has two fans on the base of it which helps move air around (they looked like 12cm fans but not sure). I put a fan on my denon amp for a ghetto mod as it gets extremely hot. Also living in England vs. Australia probably helps not to fry electronics
I had that Sunbeam Transformer case too. Very heavy and the 80mm fans were very loud. I hated it. Next case I got was an 800D.
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Normally I'd hate gays.
Out -- gates -- Patrick's day Doris Day.
But Mother's Day is different since mom serve the most support function not earth.
No matter what men do fight wars build bridges -- bit not shows it -- when compared to the one thing that keeps this planet percolating giving birth.
-- are disposable women are vital that's not opinion that's biology by reproductive -- women are precious because they're carrying the cargo.
-- just dropped -- off.
And yes I know women have come a long way they even drive in some states Kimberly yes but if all they do in life is -- a great mobbed and that's awesome.
-- feminists have -- full time motherhood is silly and old fashioned maybe they're right.
I mean what do moms do really sure you carry this thing inside you for nine months and and after you give birth your body never really is the same.
And of course what's your mom all your personal desires becomes secondary at the survival of the child becomes your -- priority.
Which then leads you to worry each day in every night that the little one will turn out right.
How easy is it that.
Maybe I'd hate Mother's Day.
If any -- it's an affront to all women who think full time moms have never worked it day in their lives which -- even good joke.
What do you call an angry feminist on Mother's Day.
Everybody has I think his view of the -- comic opera I.
He's -- that comment about saying we that is our bodies -- figure you are an exception for some reason you everytime you dedicate your body gets better legal.
I started not urban -- and get me down I'm not I don't I don't get.
Whose mothers your alive years -- I got off I honestly it's not my grandmother's enemy would you -- right there.
That Woodward who else aren't sure what that's on the that's the -- -- Harvard and KG what has grown and got planned for you.
-- we're gonna go to Brentson.
Expect it to end up with a -- -- -- -- -- car and an and I modern family -- -- happen.
And have a little picnic in the park that's that's that's and in little red digs at -- -- part Central Park.
But a brand New York so elegant in the -- that the first on with his school project that we I worked on.
Look at some like -- -- I can't drop I can't talk there's no denying that kid can relate -- -- like you must be the mouth.
Kids Andrea what are your plans and -- your -- around here.
She's in Allentown Pennsylvania very close you better take -- Bieber bus.
Why yes the Dutch bus exactly highway 78 cent West -- bill.
What the heck it's oh god I'm not a bus like me to take when we would yell let's talk about my -- and the and how exactly that main thing about mama.
My little brother Daniel when he was little -- -- here my mommy I talk about my -- lot on the show them my mom is the glue of the Stanley there's Monroe's.
And she is such a wise kind woman she really is she raised four kids.
And was by my father's side building businesses together she really is a sharp caring wonderful lady.
And the quote that sums -- up as the George Washington quote that says.
All Miami I go to my mother the and that's so true she pushed me to get -- politics she push me to learn of until languages she pushed me in inspired me and she's the reason why I'm in politics of Bob you can thank my mom for driving -- -- So -- she was the glue and your family and Bob sniffed the -- -- -- -- -- I did not -- Angel on my mother passed away about a ten years ago which she was.
Unbelievably wonderful and -- a mile Mans up and split there's me and my mom right there.
My mother used to be a model actually in New York City she was a chesterfield girl time squared away there's laid out smoke -- -- -- She's there was a remarkable woman and anyway she had to pick it up I mean she was jets and I'll -- problems we all did but.
She was she kept fairly together when the old man up and split left to look as bills -- -- always appreciate that and admission to this day.
We -- late model.
-- -- model of car and no it doesn't really short -- but I know they were like daisy dukes exec S can't very quickly -- Italian boy who is is never left his mom mom's -- technically she passed away years ago and it still feels like it happened yesterday.
Mom love you and you live picture.
He would've picture -- issues in the -- where in the white there.
-- you -- you love you and that's it guys loved the sun -- that they're really.
I did wanna say I didn't have except my mom to bring forward that if you've got to my friends -- -- and a five my mom and a citizen that he had an.
-- -- as an Angel baby is loved her so much is why not when the -- she came to.
San Francisco she raise my little brother I should pass -- has ten.
But sadly I remember her today like it was yesterday which is yet.
You return my friend my mom people know Jackie from red eyes he often calls in in Chicago says he's doing good she's 87 in Nazis got a crazy -- -- -- -- -- Loves to party.
Saturday's party in the army guy who haven't.
That he's a -- -- I.
To get that thing going up to twenty miles an hour due back flips -- while holding a glass of yen it's kind of impressive -- Anyway -- this I sent -- the flowers you should be getting them as I speak.
I was on the last truck before I go can I say they get the bomb in my life my wife -- it's not like -- if if yes well lots Hamas.
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