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Jonah Hill and Channing Tatum on 21 Jump Street | Interview
The stars of the cop-drama spoof talk Chicago—and Trump.
More a spoof of the late-'80s TV series than a relaunch, 21 Jump Street finds Channing Tatum and Jonah Hill going undercover to bust a high-school drug ring. In the process, they get a chance to relive their formative years: Hill's character takes a drama class, while Tatum's turns brainiac. We talked with the actors (both dressed in their cop costumes) overlooking the skyline from the Trump International Hotel & Tower, three days after Hill lost a Supporting Actor Oscar to Christopher Plummer. Hill sips from a bottle of Trump Ice water.
Jonah, you lost. What the fuck?
Jonah Hill I dunno. I just tried my hardest.
Channing Tatum I'm gonna chalk it up to experience.
JH He's the oldest Oscar winner ever.
CT That's a lot of years of experience.
JH He was great. I was just honored to be there. For real.
Were you in a high-school drama club?
JH No, I wasn't. People ask us a lot what we would do differently if we went back to high school—it's a common question for this film. I would have done more drama because I didn't do any. I was scared my friends would make fun of me. Now I wouldn't have cared. Obviously. I'm an actor. I also think I would have tapped into a group of girls I didn't get to tap into.
Channing, just after high school, you had a brief period working as a stripper. And you've now made Magic Mike, a film about the experience, with Steven Soderbergh.
CT My high-school sweetheart thought I was going to marry her. Everything just sort of turned upside down. I made the decision to go and lose myself. To sort of rediscover myself. I decided to do it for a year—male stripping. I just heard a radio announcement that they were looking for dancers. I was just like, I can dance. That was the craziest nine months of my entire life.
JH Isn't it funny that you could be in a car, listening to a radio announcement, and years later you'd be making a movie? It's so weird to me. That just hearing that announcement could change your whole…
CT Hopefully you'll get something that you're not expecting [from Magic Mike, which opens in June].… It's Saturday Night Fever. We took that template and we tried to re-create it in the modern world.
You're both a little young for sort of the heyday of watching 21 Jump Street. What was your familiarity coming in?
CT I have a six-years-older sister. We watched it every Friday. It came on right before Friday the 13th. I think it was about haunted antiques.
JH Record players that, like, slice people's heads off.
CT It was like the teacup that had vines on it and the cartoon vines would come out and kill [someone]. But we would watch it every single Friday.
JH Look how stupid this water is. I'm sorry, I keep passing a glance at it and like—
The water says Trump Ice and it has a picture of Donald Trump on it.
CT Why does it say ice though? I don't understand why it says ice.
JH [Mimicking Trump's voice] It was ice and then it melted and now it's water. [As Hill] I keep catching a glimpse of [his face]. It's just so fucking stupid. What makes him think anyone wants to see him while they're drinking water? What a weird thing. Even if his name's on it, that's fine. But what makes you think you want to catch a glimpse of this man's face so close to your face, while you're putting liquid in your mouth?
He's paid for the accommodations here. This is one of the most hated buildings in town.
JH This is? Why?
Well, it depends on how much of a purist you are.
JH Because it's a big ugly piece of shit, that says crap on it?
CT The architecture here is a huge thing. You can look out the window and see how beautiful it is, but I think he sticks out like a sore thumb.
Yeah, a couple of things: This building used to be the Sun-Times so you used to come over the hill and see the Sun-Times and the Trib face each other—see the cross-town paper rivalries. And the other thing was that [the Trump Tower] disrupted sight lines and the way buildings interact with each other.
JH So, he's a douche.
Who puts his face on bottled water.
JH No other way to slice it, really. You've got to print this thing in your article because it's so stupid. When I have a break I'm actually going to tweet a picture of this and say, "How fucking stupid is this?"
Channing, you filmed The Dilemma here. I felt like that movie didn't quite get a fair shake. It was a much darker, more sour film than it looked like it was going to be.
JH He's great in it.
CT It had a weird tone to it. It was sort of a miss in a way—not a miss because I thought the movie was great, I love the film. But I think when [people] go to a Vince Vaughn film or a Ron Howard film, they have different movies in mind.
JH I think even Vince said to me once they marketed it differently than how it actually was. They marketed it as a big, broad comedy.
CT It's like when you're going to go take a sip of Diet Coke or something, and then it turns out to be milk and you're like "ugh, what the?" You're just like, How did I pick up the wrong glass?
JH Milk's still an awesome drink.
CT It's awesome but not what you want. Not what you had in mind.
JH Prepare yourself for dairy.
Did you two do drugs in high school?
CT I'm sorry, what? My parents are probably going to read this, man, so I can't answer that.
JH I mean, I don't know.
CT No.
JH No. [Laughs.] You know, I'm not shy about it, but you know everyone tries things in their life. High school was fun.
If you could go back and relive it, what would you each do differently?
JH I said the drama thing. That was mine.
CT I don't know if I would change anything. It was hard. After high school I got lost. I don't know what I wanted or where I was going to go. But without that, I don't know if I would be here. If college worked out and I played football for all four years, I don't know if I'd become an actor.
And Jonah [who's still playing with the bottled water], when you came onboard, that's when 21 Jump Street really became a comedy?
CT Ice, Trump Ice!
JH Trump Ice—it's so good it makes you splash it all over the place.
Where's it from?
JH Hell. Hades. Let's see, Stockbridge, Vermont or Morgan Spring, Bennington, Vermont. Bottled at Adirondack Beverages, in Scotia, New York. All right, so it's legit. It's Trump's bathwater, it's his whole bathwater and he's like, "People are going to love this, just bottle this, they're going to want my juices in their mouth." Trump soup. What was your question?
Just about why you decided to do it as a comedy.
JH It was actually my agent's idea, to be honest. Sharon, my agent, she said, You should turn 21 Jump Street into a comedy. I was also a lot more self-righteous when I was 22, 23 than I am at 28. I had a real chip on my shoulder about being an artist and not someone who remade television shows. I thought I was a lot cooler than I actually was.
CT Everybody does.
JH And especially when you become a successful person at that age or whatever. But still I roll my eyes, just like everyone else when they hear someone is remaking a television show into a film. It seems like a corporate cash grab deal. It wasn't the show, really—it was about the idea of getting to relive the most important part of your youth. Thinking you have all the answers and then getting back there and you have none of the answers.
21 Jump Street is in theaters now.


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The Maroon No. 10 LOYOLA UNIVERSITY, NEW ORLEANS, LA., FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 20, 1931 VOL. IX Socialists Will be Hosts to Tri-State Convention Here PREPARATIONS FOR ANNUAL EVENT ARE NFARLY COMPLETED Record Crowd Is Expected To Attend; Archbishop Shaw To Make Invocation The Loyola Socialists are pushing to completion extensive preparations for the second annual convention of the Socialists of Louisiana, Texas and Mississippi, which will be held March 6, 7 and 8, in the college gymnasium. Father Hayes, sodality director at Loyola, reports that he has received many acceptances of invitations sent to the various schools and colleges and, to date, the attendance bids fair to overreach the 1500 mark set last year. Accommodations have been attended to, Father Hayes said. This convention has been fortunate to secure again the services of the Reverend Daniel A. Lord, S. J., to preside at the meeting as chairman. Father Lord is the national head of the sodalities and presides each year at the nation-wide convention. Hi*-' Grace, John J. Shaw, Archbishop of New Orleans, will make the invocation at the opening session of the convention, and will celebrate FINAL CHOICE IN POPULARITY VOTE TO BE MADE FRIDAY Three Departments Represented In Quest Of "Most Popular Student" Title Three departments will be represented in the final election for the most popular student in the annual Popularity Contest sponsored by the Student Council and The Maroon: Emmett Toppino, Arts; Joe Tetlow, Pharmacy, and Bennie Mula, Dentistry.The final run-off will be held next Friday between 11 and 1 o'clock. Voting will be conducted in the same manner as the primary. There was quite a furore in the race for the most handsome. The three receiving the highest number of votes were Larry Babst, Eldon Majoue and John Hardin. In the race for the most school spirited, George Leppert, Joe Biasi, Paul Reising and Robert Ainsworth came out on top. There was a tie, which necessitated the selection of four men. There was another tie in the vote for the most dignified, so that again DEAN OF COMMERCE VIEWS DEPRESSION Doctor Connor Explains Whys and Wherefores Of the Business Cycle John V. Connor, Ph. D., dean of the Loyola commerce school, graciously presents, upon request, a discussion of the business depression prevelant today throughout the United •States. Doctor Connor says: "This depression is one of the saddest commentaries on the resourcefulness and ingenuity of our business leaders. Moreover, it is a challenge to a passive government that has refused to take a page from economic history and prepare for, or forestall mood until the realization of the true from which we suffer today. It is an indictment against capitalistic enterprise that has failed to stabalize itself and to protect its great human investment, man power. "We boast in America of our economic supremacy, of our technical progress, and of our inventions and discoveries. But we have made no proggress in removing the greatest of economic evils, namely, the business cycle. We have failed in our efforts to remove maladjustment of a serious economic nature. I refer to unemployment, penniless old age and industrial accident. AINSWORTH, LEPPERT, AND LOZES CHOSEN ON DEBATING TEAM Zinser Is the Fourth Orator Chosen To Represent Loyola Four men have been chosen to represent the university in a series of intercollegiate debates at home and on the road. Felicien Lozes, sophomore arts and science student and Robert Ainsworth a junior in the law department, have been selected for the road debate and Leo Zinser and George Leppert will engage in the local forensic contests. Lozes, a member of last year's debating team needs no introduction as a debater. He made a great reputation in high school, being a member of the championship debating team of Jesuit High School. This reputation has been increased and strengthened by his showing on last year's team. Ainsworth, an alternate on last year's team, has shown such improvement and promise that he has been selected as a partner of Mr. Lozes. These two will compose the traveling team and will journey through twelve states meeting the country's best debaters.Zinser, a product of Holy Cross high school, and Leppert, another Jesuit alumnus, will represent Loyola in home debates. VARSITY GLEE CLUB REHEARSES WEEKLY Members Are Hard At Work For Spring Trip To Vicksburg The Glee Club held its regular weekly meeting on Monday night, February 9, 1931, at eight o'clock. Group practice was held on those numbers which had been rehearsed by sections throughout the week. The system of sectional rehearsing has proven very successful and the club will continue to employ this method. A trio has been formed from members of the Glee Club and they will prepare programs for weekly broadcast.The members are urged to continue in their good work because if the fitting program has to be completely trip to Vicksburg is to be realized, a arranged in the near future. LEPPERT IS WINNER OVER COMPETITORS IN SOPH-FROSH CONTEST Barker Takes Second Place; Wickersham Report Is Subject The oratorical contest, marking the second activity sponsored by the Student Council, between the sophomore and freshman classes in competition for the Hausmann trophy was held in the college auditorium last Friday afternoon at one o'clock. Speakers for the sophomore class were Lawrence Babst and George Leppert; the freshmen were represented by Paul Barker and James Beeson. The subject was confined to the Wickersham Report and it was specified that the speech be wholly original. Lawrence Babst opened the contest. He spoke of the sincerity of Monte L. Lemann, one of the eleven members chosen by President Hoover to make a survey of the liquor situation in the country together with Mr. Wickersham. Mr. Lemann was the only one in the commission to refuse to sign the report and it was upon this that Babst spoke. Paul Barker was second speaker and his topic was about the unintelligence of the report. Quoting Mr. Barker "the Wickersham Report is an unintelligent report compiled by eleven intelligent men." George Leppert continued to ridicule the report by his wit and comparing it to the Egyptian Spinx. He said "just as the Spinx in Egypt has puzzled the scientists as to how they were hoisted to such an immense size and what they mean, so also do we wonder just Varsity Debaters Defeat L. S. U. In Forensic Contest Spring Hi'l Will Engage Locals; Here Monday; Missouri U. Saturday The local debating team composed of Felicien Lozes and Leo C. Zinser defeated Louisiana State University in a forensic contest held at the Capital City Wednesday night. The locals upheld the affirmative side of the| question, Resolved, that the nations I of the world should adopt a policy of free trade. A return debate has been scheduled for the local auditorium early in March in which the locals will defend the negative side of the same question. Robert A ins worth and George Leprert will meet a team from Spring Hill next Monday night. The following Saturday the University of Missouri will bring a team here to engage in another debate on the same subject.THESPIANS PRESENT TWO COMEDIES IN NEXT THREE WEEKS Cast Will Include Segura, Oertling, Nicaud and Marion Oulliber The announcement that the student body anxiously awaited has been given out by Doc Bonomo. Doc announced last week that the play that he has been directing has progressed so rapidly that it will be ready for presentation within the next two or three weeks. "The Bluffers" is a two act comedy which has met with great success. It ran for six weeks in Boston, Mass., and for two months in Cleveland. Ohio. It is a scream from beginning to end. With such actors as Rene Nicaud, Sewall Oertling, Vic Choppin, Alice O'Connor and Marion Oulliber, who are under the personal direction of Doc Bonomo, this play promises to be the finest to date. Doc is well pleased with the manner in which these men and women have responded to his directing and above all the enthusiasm that they have shown in rehearsals.The play to be presented at the end of the scholastic year has been selected and the cast will be chosen in the near future. This last play will be produced about the middle of April. CONSERVATION BUREAU VISITED BY ECONOMISTS Commerce Students Are Guests Of Louisiana Conservation Bureau Doc Connor and his potential economic proteges succumbed to their naturalistic impulses and wended their way to the Louisiana Conservation Bureau's home last week and really experienced a treat. The warmth of the genuine courtesy and interest extended by the staff in charge at the Bureau's home, at 239 Royal street, was expressly felt by the visitors. It was not only agreeably received, but it served, also, to put them in a respectfully attentive mood until the realization of the true value of the opportunity that the Bureau affords, dawned upon them. Upon arrival, adequate time was allowed to inspect the great variety of mounted wild life and sea food LOYOLA RIFLE CLUB HOLDS FIRST PRACTICE Lieutenants Pedneau, Gibbons and Martin Will Coach Squad On Monday, February 9, 1931, the Loyola Rifle Club was incorporated as a campus organization. The idea was enthusiastically received, as is evidenced by the many students who formed the nucleus of the club and became charter members. The opportuniy offered the members for improving their rifle marksmanship was the incentive which aroused the ready response of the students. Harold T. Whitley was elected president of the club; Bill Scheyd, vice-president; Edward Proftlet, treasurer; Albert Rose, secertary; Rafael Diaz, executive officer, and Adrian Droulihet, publicity officer. Thomas A. Pedneau, first lieutenant, 108 th Cavalry, Louisiana National Guard, a former Loyola student, volunteered his services as coach of the club. Assisting Lieutenant Pedneau in coaching the members are Lieutenant John F. Gibbons, Jr., and Lieutenant Howard M. Martin of the Reserve Cavalry, and Sergeant C. Van Fleet of the 108 th Cavalry. On Wednesday, February 11, 1931 the club held its first practice in Bobet Hall, which consisted in preparatory (Continued on page 2) (Continued on page 5) (Continued on page 6) (Continued on page 2) (Continued on page 2) (Continued on page 2) MAROON STAFF There will be a meeting of THE MAROON staff Monday, February 23, at 12 o'clock noon, in the Students' Publication Office. Every member of the staff must be present as urgent matters are to be discussed. THE EDITOR. ATTENTION! CLASS PRESIDENTS Will the president* of following classes please report to the Maroon Office, Room 114, Eobet Hall, at 12:30 o'clock p. m., Monday, February 23, concerning a matter of great importance. Junior Arts, Freshman Law, Senior Pharmacy, Sophomore and Junior Dentistry, and Junior Law. U. S. POSTApE lc Paid New Orleans, La. Permit No. 716
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Tristan and IseultRetells the Celtic legend of the love between the warrior Tristan and Iseult, the wife of King Marc of Cornwall. |
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Many people and especially women are looking for ways in which they can reduce their body weight. So many methods which can be used but the question is, are they safe and health? However, when planning to lose weight, the most important factor to consider is your health. A 1200 calorie diet plan is dietary enough for many people who want a safe and also a lasting weight loss.
Taking a 1200 calorie diet daily helps in supporting your health as well as reducing the number of calories which leads to the weight loss. However, the number of calories which the body requires is determined by factors such as; age, metabolic rate, gender or medical condition. This is the reason why you should consult a dietician, 7 or even 3 day diet or doctor to recommend the best diets to lose weight.
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Generally, a 1200 calories diet plan may be broken in the following proportions; 300 calories for breakfast as it's the most vital meal in a day, mid-morning snacks should consist of 100 calories, 300 for lunch while the afternoon snacks should be at least 50 calories. The dinner should have 450 calories. A 1 week diet plan should constitute meals constituting these calories as stated above. However, it's important to remember that timing and especially breakfast is very important. The breakfast should be taken within one hour after you have woken up. Snacks or other meals can be taken at any time according to your plans provided you are careful not to exceed 1200 per day.
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Excellent location, hotel was five minutes walk to St. Mark's. Staff was friendly and very helpful. They prepared an early morning breakfast for us at 5:30, since our water bus was leaving before 6:00. We would definitely stay here again.
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- Très bon emplacement
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We had a wonderful stay, location could not have been any better. Maximo made our stay a very enjoyable one. All the staff was very nice, would recommend the hotel to anyone headed to Venezia. Thanks so much, Great way to end our honeymoon:)
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I have taught in SC and TN, in poor schools and affluent schools, public schools and private schools, and even elementary and middle schools. I also lead professional development workshops for colleagues on such topics as differentiated instruction, civic education, authentic assessment, and learning-centered schools.
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I have been nominated for Teacher of the Year several times, but my greatest honor was being named Teacher Mentor by Scholastic.com in 2004. Many of my units are posted online on the site, but some were posted incompletely. There are lessons which complete the units posted here under the same topics.
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text: Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz has accepted the challenge from Canada's poultry and egg farmers to shave his moustache in support of prostate cancer awareness and men's mental health. Chicken Farmers of Canada, Canadian Hatching Egg Producers, Egg Farmers of Canada and Turkey Farmers of Canada issued the challenge in recognition of Movember, the public campaign held each November. "Last year, Minister Ritz helped raise over $15,000 for prostate cancer research so we decided to up the ante," said Dave Janzen, chair of Chicken Farmers of Canada. "This year we're hoping to raise $25,000 in support of prostate cancer and mental health research by getting him to remove his moustache. "This campaign presents us with the opportunity to show urbanites how rural Canada can step up to the plate in support of a national initiative that affects all Canadians." The idea builds on last year's successful campaign by Minister Ritz which topped out at just over $16,500. "While I have accepted this challenge, I'm hopeful that this year's steep fundraising goal will keep my moustache firmly in place," said Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz in a release. "Although, it's clear that Canadian farmers and processors deliver the best food in the world, we're raising the stakes to see if they can remain the best fundraisers too." "We are proud to step forward and work together in support of prostate cancer and men's mental health awareness," said Jack Greydanus, chair of Canadian Hatching Egg Producers. "Thank you to Minister Ritz for agreeing to participate again this year. Farmers from coast to coast are challenged to step forward in support of this fundraising project for these two great causes." According to Prostate Cancer Canada, 1 in 7 men will be diagnosed with a form of prostate cancer, making it the most common cancer among Canadian men. One out of five Canadians will experience a mental illness in their lifetime and the remaining four will have a family member or colleague who will. Donations can be made to Minister Ritz's Movember Canada campaign online, or you can reference Gerry Ritz and Registration # 2736566 and send it to: Movember Canada, 119 Spadina Avenue, PO Box 65, Toronto, ON M5T 2T2.


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Making Riches and Profit From Roleplaying Games!
I am Mongoose, and so can you is an in-depth look at how anyone can make a full-time living from the roleplaying games industry. Whether you are looking to find a career creating and selling roleplaying games, or are determined to start your own business, this book shows you how.
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Hodge Hawk: Motorbike Meets Racecar & Jet
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New Zealand-based designer Alex Hodge has come up with a super-cool concept vehicle called the Hawk (above) that offers the performance of a motorcycle with the comfort of a luxury sportscar and the styling of a fighter jet. The three-wheeled (19-inch alloy), fiberglass-bodied conveyance has a pod-style cabin accessed by folding back the curved glass hood, and is trimmed in a blend of lightweight plastics and leather, the UK Auto Express reports. Power comes from a 999cc Honda RC51 V-twin engine producing 120 HP and a top speed of 144 mph. No word yet on a production date or price for this predatory-looking beast.


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Where we've been this week…
1. Red Karl and Mary Ransleben own Red, a vintage and custom furniture store in Fredericksburg, Texas. Their blog is a wonderful chaotic collection of furniture, fabric and fashion. Where to Start: The wall sticker post.
2. Chez Larsson's store We interviewed marketer and self-confessed neat freak Benita Larsson back in March about her home office. She's shifted her store to Amazon where you can now buy the stuff you see in the homes she features on her blog. Where to Start: Head straight to Organizing Stuff. I love those acrylic magazine holders.
3. Coolboom I can't believe I haven't written about this online design 'zine before. It's an excellent source of interior design and architecture news. Where to Start: The awesome offices of Otra Arquitectura. That wall of plants is a clever idea.
4. Cube Me And while we're on cool architecture sites check this web magazine out. Where to Start: The Blob. A new take on the backyard home office.
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This next version released here in a bit will include pirate ships for the barbarian players.
This next version released here in a bit will include pirate ships for the barbarian players.
Looking forward to playing tommorow, Havent played since V5, been waiting for a good version to do a long campaign
Barbarian Slayer units will also be able to embark across water.
edit: We'll wait until the Slayer III before the barbarians get embarkation.
Version 14 is ready for download.
- Added Palatine Palace: 50% increase in wonder production speed. +1 Free Tech
- Added Domus Tiberiana: Requires Palatine Palace. 50% increase in golden age length. +1 Free Tech.
- Added Domus Aurea: Requires Palatine Palace. +50 Happiness each turn. +1 Free Tech.
- Added Domus Flavia: Requires Palatine Palace. +50 Culture each turn. +1 Free Tech.
- Added Domus Augustana: Requires Palatine Palace. +50 Gold each turn. +1 Free Tech.
- Added Ballista
- Added Slave Wealth (II)
- Added Worker Tools (civilized version gives +2% worker speed globally, barbarian version gives 1 worker unit)
- Added Harbor: Establishes sea trade routes to Capital.
- Added Library
- Added Great Library
- Added civilized Cavalry III unit.
- Added barbarian Slary I unit.
- Science and Gold conversion production is now unlocked with Sun Deity discovery.
- Barbarian civilizations can now build pirate ships.
- Added Brute Horde: Gives city four Brute IV units and increases unit production speed.
- Fixed some text.
- Increased experience needed from 1,000 to 2,000 for Great General to appear.
- Gave Pisea the phalanx units to represent fact that Romans learned phalanx from Etruscans.
- Increased AI's liklihood to attack with naval units.
- Increased gold award to $1,000 for being the first to discover a minor civ. $250 otherwise.
- Added splash screen to Forum Romanum.
- Catapult range is now 3 so it can bombard cities from a safe distance.
Version 15 is ready for download.
- Fixed civilized Cavalry III unit.
Version 16 is ready for download.
- Fixed some text bugs.
- Fixed some minor bugs that were appearing in database.log
- Fixed Civilization ID# bug
- Fixed Augustus dialogue bug.
- Added stone around civ capital that didn't have any on scenario.
hi don't know if you have picked this one up but after discovering civ cav II and went to build a unit the production list was only showing a cav I could be build, although on checking the details, it was in fact a cav II
Good god. This totally screwed me up. I had already fixed this in Version 15, and so I went and screwed it up by accidentally changing Cavalry I to reflect as II thinking there was something wrong. So now I have to fix my new mistake. Released 2 versions that weren't necessary.
When you give me feedback, please let me know what version you're using. Thanks.
My mistake for not realizing that had already been fixed.
Version 19 is ready for download.
- Fixed Cavalry units.
- Fixed bug where "next discovery" green arrow was displaying on city build screen.
opps sorry, i will remember next time. Observation still playing v12 as Carthaginians but I am kicking the ass out of the Romans, in 279bc, who have built 4 cities in Italia, taken Tarentum but have not attacked the minor city states who are still unconquered, I have also noticed the Romans have only built one hex with a road. Perhaps Roman A1 needs some help. To date i seem to be getting it all my own way.
The AI still isn't attacking in the sea the way it should be. Something I need to take a very close look at.
Okay, getting into a huge fight with Carthage and it's good to see them using their naval ships somewhat intelligently.
version 12 still and my archer Is aren't able to upgrade to archer II
I'm trying my ass off to make some units/models for this mod but it is sick complex, been trying for a week and not getting far fast.
you need high dollar software to be able to do that.
Looks like someone is close, but not quite: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=447760
Ya, I've been following his work closely but he won't release the darn units as he makes them, he is waiting til they are all done for some reason. We could use those NOW, lol, but I appreciate his work.
I need to make it more challenging in regards to happiness/unhappiness. Next version unhappiness will be higher.
I agree, I haven't had to focus on Happiness Much
Playing Version 19
By 340 I had taken Italy completely and Greece ceded two of their mainland cities to me so I was rocking. Like you said, still not much going on in the navy front, even when I was fighting Greece.
I got the Extra Legions from the Republic Social policy and had a large army for the time and Gaul had declared war on me so I "thought" I was going to go take some of their land. I brought about 13 or so legions for my inital invasion plus 2 cities resupplying. I took Massilia and then they absolutely wiped me off the map. Lost everyone. I had Manipualar IV against brute 1 and 2 so I had a slight advantage and we were fighting in the open, but they got me. I rebuilt, took about the same force and got smoked again, lol. I love a challenge so this is great. I am bee lining to Marion to see if that helps but I might not be able to even win without a general, leading me to believe I might have to take Monarchy Social in order to get one that early, or just cut my losses and invest in economy. The AI fought well and had plenty of troops. I'll let you know but if I can't win with the marion legions, if so the AI might be overpowered a bit for unit production. I call it the First Gallic war and it was a devastating defeat for Rome. Lost about 40 legions and gained nothing. "Varus, give me back my Legions!"
The only change I would recommend is that we have to figure out a way to not allow a unit or two to take a city by sea when you have 10 units sitting around that can't attack them (land units). If we could enable combat between boated land units it would fix that ( transport combat). Another option might be to only allow "marine" attacks if the unit has a special promotion, a little deeper in the tree. The Greeks retook Syracuse with 1 embarked naval unit.
Love what you are doing with the mod and I appreciate your dedication to it. I'll keep plugging on it. I'm trying to take the swordsman template posted by someone and modify it for the Praetorian Units you will need soon. Would you be interested in the Hastati, Principal, Triariii deal to replace some of the generic Manipular units today? Not sure what direction you were thinking of taking once unit graphics are available.
I notice that I have alot of excess cash that I can't deploy on many public projects (probably by design), but at this point money seems to be only good for upgrading legions which diminishes the economic/military decisioning around capital investment. This takes away from the value of the 50% off unit upgrades (which is nice) because you don't have anything to do with the rest of the money.
Thoughts for the night, cheers.
Yep, I'm seeing the same things you are. I need to adjust the economy a bit as there is too much surplus gold. I'll probably dramatically increase the maintenance of Roman units and possibly Roman buildings. A Great General should make a big difference on the major fronts.
In the open field - that is currently the case in the game. Romans are unmatched. Alesia didn't happen until 52bc which the player should have generals by then, and with the Germanic barbarians the Romans never fully conquered them. Never came close actually.
The open field in Gaul + Generals will allow for the conquering of Gaul, but it will require strategy and a military genius on the level of Caesar. Will need to avoid the forest patches.
My advice, pick on the weaker civs before taking on the Gauls and Germanics. Might want to avoid the Germanics altogether.
I am planning on adding hills to the Roman open field bonus.
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I'm playing the v. 19.
Rome have Marcus Furius Camillus, Titus Quinctius Flamininus, Quinctius Fabius Maximus (Cunctator), Publius Cornelius Scipio (Africanus), Lucius Cornelius Sulla and Gaius Marius before Gaius Julius Caesar so some great general from the III century B.C. is vital for Rome.
I agree with the bonus also for the hills for roman unit.
The Amphibious assault are still too strong... Greeks killed some Legions near Corinth attacking only by sea with his Phalanx...
Regarding Germania remember that if Commodus continued his father's (Marcus Aurelius) politics and military campaign in Germania after his death in Vindobona in 180 A.C., Rome can conquer it and latinize it... estending his border until the Elba River...
Some thoughts - have you given any thought to how you might replicate the significant fortifications of Constantinople and how that city might grow into probably the most powerful city of it's time, which was due to it's impregnability and trading position between east and west. I was pleased to see you are thinking of giving legions defensive bonus for hills but any thought to any added bonus and fortification building to reflect the legions engineer abilities and standard operating procedure of digging in and fortifying wherever they went?
How about givng some of the later legionaries the "cover" promotions to simulate the turtosie thing they did with their shields?!
Yep, the Scipio Policy will give you a General, and so will the Sulla policy. Marian Reforms (named after Gaius Marius) allows for the barracks in the game and of course his Marian Legions. So yeah, many of those figures you mentioned are represented in the game. Depending on your skill level, you should be able to tap into some of that in the 3rd century BC. Expect more tweaking in the weeks ahead.
Ok I continue to not see the scenario's Policy. I have the standard Policies in italian and not one of the new so I cannot know nothing about them...
After Gaining a general and the marian legions I smoked Gaul before 150 bc, but I haven't taken much of greece or carthage. Do have Illyria though. By this time I have Marian V legions. I have to admit though, before I got Marian legions and a general they wiped the floor with me. Also, the thing I said about gold earlier, If you are going to tweak it, don't tweak it too much because upgrading the legions is expensive, even with the right social policies. I have an army of like 50 so to go between Marian I and V will take 250,000 gold. In the early game I had much excess gold, but by this time I can't even keep my legions all upgraded. This is probably because I bee lined the techs, getting all of them within 70 years or so. So by mid game the gold situation seems about right. I could probably boost this with some tax collectors since I have about 50 happiness, but haven't got there yet, too busy producing legions. I also used some gold to buy 3 food giving citystates to help with the growth situation.
One thing to consider is that because I'm not annexing very many cities so that I can get social policies, I have way too little of a workforce, something like 6 workers with no way to increase that. The puppets don't make slave camps. This could be by design but thought it relevant. I like how things progress slowly for improvements but I think this is way too slow with only six workers. I barely have major resources (deer, stone) completed on italy and a total of two farms. The rest of my territories have nothing but roads. This could probably be fixed by generating a slave automatically when creating a puppet since the romans would have taken slaves from any conquered province, or giving a 3-5% chance of taking a slave when killing enemy units.
The AI is a consolidation monster, creating huge civilizations. In mine, one civ owns everything from Germania to the huns, I rue the day when I have to fight them, if you had the tech tree completed, they would already be so advanced that they probably would have crushed me with advanced slayer units.
Enjoying the crap out of this mod though, thanks for your work.
I registered to say this is already looking like a great mod. Really looking forward to seeing that 100%, or even 90 or 95%
If someone volunteered a working Lua tweak to make it so, would you opt to use it?
As for mechanics, here are my thoughts:
1. Not available until the Slave Captuing tech
2. Causes relations penalty with civ of captured unit
3. 3-5% chances seems a bit high to me, but then that's just me. I'd recommend just 1-2% chance, with the chance doubled (2-4% chance) with a Great General nearby
4. Chance eliminated when the Freemen techs arrive
I am contrarian here since I like this mechanic as it forces me to spend precious production early to build a Navy to defend the peninsula --- against both the Carthagians and Greeks. When I build a fleet, Carthage attacks other civs but when I don't they jump on me pretty quick.
Tweaks I would make would increase the amphib assault penalty from 25% to 33%, fix cities so they attack amphib uses and if possible increase ranged damage 2x to units afloat when attacking or defending.
Speaking of Carthage, while playing as Rome I have yet to see them make a grab for any of those island city states, instead leaving them for Rome to gobble up.
The reason why amphibious attacks are so powerful is because for some silly reason the AI loves amphibious attacks even if it's suicidal, so I had to do it that way to make the AI competitive.
The other problem is that I use that same tactic on them and it gives me an enormous advantage considering the mediteranian has so many coastal cities. I use it to dominate Greece and Carthage. It gives you the city and then when you make landfall, your units are in friendly territory and heal faster during the main assault.
One thought I had as I watched how the game scaled over time is that a unit seems to be a close approximation to a cohort, instead of a legion. Ever thought of renaming them Legionary Cohort? Just thinking out loud, because when I play, I usually group six or seven fighting units and consider them a "Legion", the seventh being a cavalry unit.
Unfortunately, there is no easy way to do this. The Events.SerialEventUnitSetDamage can be used to find out when any unit dies but it doesn't tell you who killed the unit, while the GameEvents.UnitKilledInCombat tells you who killed whose unit, but not which unit died! My experiments have shown that you can't assume that you get SetDamage followed by the corresponding KilledInCombat events (especially when both units die in the combat, or a battle involves multiple units from the same side(s))
You could use Events.EndCombatSim but that doesn't fire in strategic view, or if Quick Combat is enabled, so would be limited - but if you're only talking of a 1-2% chance of slave capture it's probably not an issue in those circumstances (as the player probably doesn't need any more units to slow their computer down further!)


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Meanwhile on another topic FaceBook made a surprise announcement today -- -- a little bit about that on a new project it's been working on for more than a year.
It's a new search feature called graft search which focuses on people photos places an interest.
Here with details top wasserman business editor for -- -- -- time welcome to the show -- Tell me about this -- search what does this.
Well it's you know FaceBook is always had a search Tom but the thing is -- it's been pretty badly if you could search for persons -- its search for business and -- prematurely can do.
He can do so so much more different which is meaning its search for.
Friends -- like Metallica you -- search for the statue of liberty.
And that's all based on -- you know.
Who rules very.
Object of this is subject that's it's based on who you are -- you know.
Can monetize -- thing anyway yeah others there they have hum the -- well know what they have search ad that.
Product right now it's called sponsor results can you search on FaceBook now you'll see you'll see -- pop up there.
So they can make money off of this because the market did not like this FaceBook stocks sold off 3% what do you make of that.
I don't know you know just as the FaceBook has been on you know on the upswing lately so you know we've taken into account -- they broke thirty dollars after you know they're down at seventeen for awhile.
But I think maybe if you were expecting a phone that was the other bigger rumor.
You know -- lots -- rumors of them was one Zuckerberg today for his part founder of the company said.
The search he used it recently the search for Mexican restaurants his friends had been -- -- -- tell you.
That's pretty underwhelming when it comes to thinking about this -- the cutting edge of innovation.
In our technology industry really this is what I have to look forward to.
What is pick up the telephone.
And call my friend and -- them or talk to them face to face you know let me I and still underwhelmed by the like Italian.
Wealthy where this -- imagine you're in the market for new car and you -- -- cast about your friends.
FaceBook anyone who bought the car recently.
It can be pretty vital information someone you know -- to -- -- -- candidates you know assessment of the car that thinking behind.
What about.
It making stalking -- here are some people are criticizing it that way.
Yeah I mean the thing is that the information on the search of all it's all public information.
Com and you can make a private very easily but the.
-- during the break.
We were talking about tech companies with real momentum and you mentioned Amazon which I -- was really -- and tell us about that.
Well I just think they had an amazing holiday season you know they're just they've become this real machine that they have.
The brick and mortar retailers are really on the defensive against Amazon that's not the only business that play and they're they're huge and publishing.
You know their hardware now they do streaming their Netflix and -- there's all over the place and they're really Smart really powerful.
Yes -- -- all the time seeing what -- what about Samsung.
Yes -- had an amazing year two they have in -- they called the the gang of four which is apple Google.
We go to FaceBook and who now I can't think about.
And there's another -- there with Sampson kind of join the ranks this year there they outsold.
Apple's iPhone two to one and they they sell more -- -- anybody else.
In the world -- right and in other countries.
Sometimes people here think that the iPhone is the only thing divide but not -- -- agrees with that the -- is 73% in the global market right now iPhone is really the the minority.
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And what's about the (recently re-opensources) Pathsscale? It is on par with Intel, in my experience. And then there is the PGI.... The compiler's game is a large race and GCC and LLVM are not the only two horses in it.
I believe Intel does its own closed source compiler to show the best it can on its hardware. They don't want that "best" being available on other vendor's hardware.
"gold standard"?
Posted Apr 26, 2012 21:12 UTC (Thu) by robert_s (subscriber, #42402) [Link]
Believe me, there are plenty of much slower compilers.
As for hardware vendors' compilers, it would be pretty embarrassing for them (not to mention pointless) if they _couldn't_ outperform competitors on their own hardware.
I'm also not so convinced by any "4% off gcc" claims about LLVM. Phoronix (yes, caveats aside) routinely test LLVM releases and it's common for LLVM to be a good 50% behind gcc. A lot of these claims you hear about LLVM's speed often turn out to be "when compared to a 3 year old gcc".
Not that I'm not an LLVM fan though. It's just important to be realistic.
Posted Apr 26, 2012 21:40 UTC (Thu) by daglwn (subscriber, #65432) [Link]
Yes there are but I believe the statement is true if one considers "regularly used" compilers. gcc's generated code is notoriously slow. Still, it will always win on some codes simply because no one compiler can completely dominate every other.
gcc's great strength is in its portability and cross-compile capabilities, which no other compiler can touch and won't any time soon.
> As for hardware vendors' compilers, it would be pretty embarrassing for > them (not to mention pointless) if they _couldn't_ outperform > competitors on their own hardware.
They will not outperform competitors on every possible code. I know of compilers that handily beat icc for x86 on some codes but also get trounced by icc on other codes. And it is not terribly difficult to examine the generated code of a compiler and figure out a bit of what it's doing to get performance. Reproducing it is sometimes tricky but in most cases it isn't. The techniques are known. The devil's in the tuning.
The problem is mostly one of time and compiler developer resources. By focusing/specializing on a key set of codes or operating arenas (embedded, HPC, etc.) a compiler team can create something that will beat a vendor compiler on those codes or in that particular arena.
Posted Apr 26, 2012 22:57 UTC (Thu) by stevenb (guest, #11536) [Link]
There are plenty benchmarks and user stories that say otherwise. IMHO there is a perception problem that is being perpetuated because complaints about GCC (or any other compiler) are always shouted out louder than compliments. And saying anything positive about GCC seems to be salon unfaehig anyway in many Linux discussion forums (especially LKML)...
Posted Apr 27, 2012 1:07 UTC (Fri) by daglwn (subscriber, #65432) [Link]
For all-out performance over a wide range of codes, it's hard to beat compilers that focus on it, such as icc, pathscale and pgi.
Posted Apr 29, 2012 8:24 UTC (Sun) by ebiederm (subscriber, #35028) [Link]
Compiling your kernel of numerical code fast is one thing, and there are certainly compilers that specialize in that and all kinds of cpu architecture extensions to take advantage of it.
Where I have seen gcc excel is in making the work-a-day integer code lean and tight and cache friendly.
Most codes are integer codes and we need good work-a-day compilers not the hotrod numerical code wonders that are fast when the compiler does not ICE or generate incorrect code.
With luck clang can catch up to gcc and be a good work-a-day compiler but it seems clear that clang is not there yet.
Posted Apr 27, 2012 3:02 UTC (Fri) by davide.del.vento (guest, #59196) [Link]
A couple of names?
Posted Apr 27, 2012 10:02 UTC (Fri) by robert_s (subscriber, #42402) [Link]
...and now LLVM.
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Posted Apr 27, 2012 11:49 UTC (Fri) by dgm (subscriber, #49227) [Link]
It certainly wasn't that way back when gcc 3.4 was the current release. I know because I benchmarked it for my university. MSCC both compiled faster and produced faster binaries, and by a good margin.
I think that it's time to redo those benchmarks...
Posted Apr 30, 2012 18:06 UTC (Mon) by robert_s (subscriber, #42402) [Link]
Posted May 2, 2012 11:37 UTC (Wed) by dgm (subscriber, #49227) [Link]
AFAICS, MSVC is still *much* faster compiling than GCC (between two and four times faster). Also, MSVC generated code is smaller and runs faster, but the difference is not as big as it used to be.
Posted May 13, 2012 10:13 UTC (Sun) by robert_s (subscriber, #42402) [Link]
Well no, according the the "average" page gcc 4.6.3 maxes out at "1.18" for runtime while msvc 2010 maxes out at "1.24".
But, y'know, benchmarks and all that...
Posted May 2, 2012 8:29 UTC (Wed) by nwmcsween (guest, #62367) [Link]
50% on very biased benchmarks that utilize openmp, which isn't supported as of now in clang/llvm.
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thnx. i hope the medicine are sold everywhere. can't afford to fly to china just to buy this.
A bit late into this thread but thought I'd contribute. No idea about the specific problem and it should be diagnosed by a professional but wanted to share some useful information I got when I saw a top sports phsyio about my back problems a few years back
Badminton players do a lot of backwards stretching and twisting movements, but often have very underdeveloped core stability around the stomach area. As a result the back is put under pressure where the mid area should be taking some of the load
If you're a badminton player I advise to look at doing (along with the ususal fitness and stretching) some regular and easy core stability exercises such as the following to help prevent back injuries
No problem. You can try other waist supplement which available in your country. My worst backache incident got me admitted to hospital in late night. Not able to sleep and sweating a lot in all kind or body position due to back pain. Lucky X-ray show no backbone problem and doctor explain was the back muscle overstretched. The pain was so great that it affected my balancing and all pressure were put on both my legs. Hope you can find some solution soon.
is there any possibility i can get this sudden-unnoticed-back-pain in the future? let say i jump smash, and upon landing suddenly the pain is back! or should i not do jump smash often?
Back pain is a common thing that is experienced by badminton players. The most common cause is not warming up sufficiently before partaking in a game and not cooling down after a game. Both are equally important, especially in badminton.
Other issues that effect the back are week muscles (back muscles). in badminton, players have to jump, extend backwards/sideways at times these motions occur simultaneously over and over again. In these cases, the sensitive spinal tissues 9ligaments, discs and nerves) are irritated and inflamed. If this occurs over and over again, the individual may end with a bulging or a herniated disc (slipped disc).
Slipped disc (herniated/protruded disc) is common among those that play aggrasively and without warming up. I have treated dozens of badminton players for the same reason. My advice to them have been to warm-up, cool down and build up muscles in the low back to prevent a slip disc. And for those that have it to get treatment right away and those that do not know if they have it to seek professional help right away. One for of therapy that is effective for those that have a disc problem is the NSD Therapy. You can Google NSD Therapy and get more info on it. Hope this helped
I do this.
Lie on your back with legs up 'L' shape. Then use a chair to support your legs. Lift your back a little and do it like 20 times. It helps.
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While it is true that exercise will improve the low back pain. However, it can also make it hurt more. For example, if the problem is coming from a slipped disc (disc protrusion, disc herniation, disc prolapse or disc bulge). In these cases the root cause of the problem needs to be addressed. Best way to find out, is if the "L" shaped exercise as mentioned in the message above cause discomfort or pain, then chances are that you have a disc problem. Also, you can get to do a self test as mentioned in nsdtherapy.com site. Visit the link below to see how it is done. However, this is only a tool and the best person the evaluate your condition is a professional (a orthopedic or chiropractor). If you suspect a disc problem, google nsd therapy Malaysia to find a center near you.
I hope that this helped.
i have lower back pain for several months now. it ebbs and flows. it caused by a number of factors: poor posture whilst sitting, poor posture whilst walking up and down the stair, no or inadequate warming and cooling down, and last but not least, sitting in front of the TV and Computer Monitor for many hours a day.
what specialists should i go visit:
a. doctor. [which kind?]
b. chiropractor
c. physiotherapist
d. accupunctunist
e. bonesetter
@pcll99 : chiropractor would be a good start
and pay more attention to proper posture!
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....and while you're at it, maybe a brain specialist! You know what you're not doing... so do it!
I'd like to repeat here what contless others have stressed time and again. Stretches and a decent warm-up routine are absolutely imperative -- more so once you've hit the 30 or 35 year mark, or more. Equally important is stretching and warm-down (or cool down) after you've finished your session. It doesn't take that long - maybe just 10 minutes before, 5-7 minutes after. Also, if you can begin your day with some really good stretches and breathing exercises, it will set you up nicely for the rest of the day.
depends on how old you are, how well conditioned you are.
my first thought was that if it took at least a few days to recover then you might not as young as a teenager since older people, myself included, need more time to recover from muscle fatigue as well as a pinched nerve. also, if you don't play all the time or you played too much, it could means that you didn't allow your body enough time to recover, which could also cause you to perform a bad movement as mentioned in earlier posts.
my suggestion is that if this is out of the ordinary FOR YOU, then go see a doctor right away just to be on the safe side. i truly believe that when it comes to your health, nothing is more important than getting a peace of mind that you know your body is ok. and like some others have mentioned, seeing a chiropractor is not a bad idea.
the worst possible situation that i could think of is that there's a pinched nerve in your lower back when it hurts so much that it immobilized you momentarily. it happened to my father but it's up in the neck area but i figure it could happen to lower spine as well. that's why i think it's a great idea to get yourself checked out JUST TO BE SAFE. wish you a speedy recovery.
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