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Red Rock State Park
Red Rock State Park is open 7 days a week from 8 am – 5 pm. The Visitor Center is open 9 am – 4:30 pm daily. The mission of the park is to preserve the riparian habitat associated with Oak Creek; to serve as an environmental education facility; and to provide limited passive recreational opportunities.
Hiking at Red Rock State Park offers magnificent views of the Sedona area.
Red Rock State Park is a 286 acre nature preserve and environmental education center with stunning scenery. Trails throughout the park wind through manzanita and juniper to reach the rich banks of Oak Creek. Green meadows are framed by native vegetation and hills of red rock. The creek meanders through the park, creating a diverse riparian habitat abounding with plants and wildlife. This riparian habitat provides the setting and the opportunity for the park to offer a focus on environmental education.
Red Rock offers a variety of special programs for school groups and private groups. There are a number of daily and weekly park events. (see below or ask at Visitor Center)
Park facilities include a visitors center, classroom, theater, gift shop, picnic tables, 10 developed trails, restrooms, and group area with Ramada and facilities. The restrooms are handicapped accessible. Camping facilities are not available at this park. The property was acquired by the Arizona State Parks Board in 1986 and the park was opened to the public in 1991. The land was at one time part of the Smoke Trail Ranch, owned by Jack and Helen Frye.
Events Calendar
Download Red Rock SP Events Calendar ( 1 MB PDF)
Upcoming Events
- December 8: Guided Geology Tour
- December 15: Lecture: Geologic History of Sedona
- January 12, 2014: Lecture: History of the Yavapai-Apache Nation: Past, Present, and Future
- January 26, 2014: Lecture: Set In Stone But Not in Meaning: SW Indian Rock Art
- February 16, 2014: Lecture: Permian Period: As Sedona's Red Rocks Were Being Formed
Daily Guided Nature Walks at 10 am
At 10:00 am daily, you can join a naturalist for a guided nature walk of one and a half to two hours. You will be introduced to the riparian ecosystem of Oak Creek and other aspects of the Park. Some of the subjects that may be discussed include plants, wildlife, geology, history, and archaeology.
Daily Activity at 2 pm
At 2:00 pm daily, the Park hosts either a guest speaker or a ranger/naturalist-led activity of approximately 45 minutes each day. Programs could be indoors or outside, and may include a nature hike, a special presentation, or an educational/nature video.
Wednesday & Saturday Bird Walks at 9 am
On Wednesday and Saturday mornings at 9 am, bird enthusiasts can join a naturalist for a "Guided Bird Walk". Beginning as well as advanced birders are welcome. Rangers recommend that visitors bring their own binoculars. A limited number are available for loan from the Park. Download Printable Bird List ( 896 KB PDF) No matter the time of day, visitors can check out the many birds who make Red Rock State Park their home. The bird-feeding area behind the visitor center, on the Hummingbird Patio, is an excellent spot to start your tour or to take pictures. Hummingbirds are almost always there to take advantage of the feeders! Another good viewing point is the visitor center roof. Most of the year-round birds are found in the riparian area next to Oak Creek or along the field that is behind the visitor center. While visitors hike the trails, they will see many birds who call the Park "home. See current sightings below
December 8: Guided Geology Hike
2:00 pm. The park is located at the base of the Mogollon Rim, the southern edge of the Colorado Plateau. The escarpment is over 200 miles long and ranges in elevation from 2,000 to 3,000 feet. Over millions of years of erosion the rim has receded over four miles leaving behind the picturesque features of Sedona. Join our knowledgeable volunteers as they venture out on our trails and discuss how Sedona transformed into what we see today. This is an interpretive experience for both the beginner and experienced hiker, lasting between 2-2 ½ hours and an elevation gain of 250 feet. Please bring water and wear suitable footwear.
December 15: Lecture: Geologic History of Sedona
2:00 pm at park theater. Lecture by Wayne Ranney with focus on geology of Sedona, something that has long interested geologists from all over the world. Have you ever wondered how the formations were made or why the rocks are red? Wayne will explain in laymen's terms how this incredible place came to be, "It includes a journey across ancient sand dunes, bears witness to a volcano that erupted very near Sedona, and tells about the faulting and erosion that created Oak Creek Canyon." Join us to gain a better understanding of the beautiful land around us!
Wayne is a local to northern Arizona and award winning author of Sedona Through Time. He has also co-authored Ancient Landscapes of the Colorado Plateau and Carving Grand Canyon. Ranney's passion for southwestern geology took root during his years as a backcountry ranger in the Grand Canyon. He holds both a BS and an MS in Geology from Northern Arizona University. He completed his Master's thesis by mapping the House Mountain area near Sedona.
Space is limited, so call ahead to reserve your spot. A special event fee of $5.00 per adult is required in addition to Day Use Entrance fees of $5.00 per adult (14 and up), $3.00 per youth (7-13), and free for children (0-6). For additional information and reservations, please call (928) 282-6907.
Sunday, January 12, 2014: Lecture: History of the Yavapai-Apache Nation: Past, Present, and Future
2 pm. Park will host Hazel Siow, an elder of the Yavapai-Apache Nation. Hazel will be sharing information including creation stories of her ancestors, present information of the nation, and the future of these people. Please join us to learn more about the tribes that first settled in this area. Space is limited, so call ahead to reserve your spot. A special event fee of $5.00 per adult is required in addition to Day Use Entrance fees of $5.00 per adult (14 and up), $3.00 per youth (7-13), and free for children (0-6). For additional information and reservations, please call (928) 282-6907.
Janurary 26, 2014: Lecture: Set In Stone But Not in Meaning: SW Indian Rock Art
2 pm. In partnership with the Arizona Humanities Council, Allen Dart will be giving the second lecture of January. The theme of this lecture will be covering the ancient writings of Indian rock art. Throughout the Southwest both petroglyphs (symbols carved or pecked) and pictographs (symbols painted) are prevalent and claimed to have specific meanings. Dart will be discussing the question, "Are the meanings claimed by archeologist or Native Americans?" and how symbols can be interpreted differently from popular, scientific, and modern Native American beliefs.
Allen is a Registered Professional Archeologist (R.P.A.), holds a M.A. in Anthropology and has been working in archeology since 1975. He has spent time both working and volunteering for various organizations throughout Arizona and New Mexico. Currently, Allen is working for the U.S. Natural Resources Conservation Service in Phoenix and serves as the Executive Director for Old Pueblo Archaeology Center in Tucson, Arizona.
Please call ahead for reserve your space; the program is included within the Park's admission fees: $5.00 per adult (14 and up), $3.00 per youth (7-13), and free for children (0-6). For additional information and reservations, please call (928) 282-6907. Program made possible by the Arizona Humanities Council.
Feb. 16: As Sedona's Rocks Were Being Formed: A Look at the Permian Period
2 pm. The world of the Permian Period (300 to 250 million years ago) would look quite alien to a modern observer. Most of the continents were together in a great landmass called Pangea. Reptiles and amphibians were the dominant land vertebrates, because dinosaurs and mammals would not appear for tens of millions of years. Lycopods (of coal-forest fame), conifers, ferns, and seed ferns represented the land flora, long before flowering plants appeared. The young Appalachian Mountains had recently been created by continental collisions, but the birth events of the Rockies, Alps, and Himalayas were far in the future. Sedona sat near the equator as our famous Red Rocks were being formed. The Permian period ended with the greatest extinction event in the history of the planet. This lecture will briefly look at the Earth during that fascinating time.
Presented by Dr. Kennard B. Bork. Ken taught geology, with a concentration on the history of the Earth and its life forms, for many years. His Ph.D. is in Geology, specializing in paleontology. Current research focuses on the history of geology, but his publications include reconstructions of ancient geological environments, including Permian events. A special event fee of $5.00 per adult is required in addition to Day Use Entrance fees of $5.00 per adult (14 and up), $3.00 per youth (7-13), and free for children (0-6). For additional information and reservations, please call (928) 282-6907.
Self-Guided Hikes
If you prefer to explore on your own, or are not available for scheduled activities, the family-oriented trail system is well marked for your safety and pleasure. Five miles of trails consist of interconnecting loops, leading you to red rock vistas or along the lush greenery of Oak Creek. The Eagle's Nest and Apache Fire Loops are joined together by the Coyote Ridge Trail. Eagle's Nest is the highest point in the park with an elevation gain of 300 feet. The three major loops are connected along the riparian corridor by the Kisva Trail, which also leads to the short loop of the Yavapai Ridge Trail. The Javelina Trail takes you into the pinon/juniper woodlands and back to the other loops. Detail information is available at the Visitor Center. Bikes and horses are allowed on designated routes. Download Printable Park Map & Brochure ( 855 KB PDF)
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Video Presentation
Daily, upon request. The park's movie theater shows "The Natural Wonders of Sedona-Timeless Beauty". The movie reveals why USA Weekend voted Sedona & Oak Creek Canyon "the most Beautiful Place in America".
Bird Sightings, Dec. 9, 2013
Red Tail Hawk
American Kestrel
Mourning Dive
Black-chinned Hummingbird
Gila Woodpecker
Ladder-backed Woodpecker
Northern Flicker
Hairy Woodpecker
Say's Phoebe
Western Scrub Jay
Bridled Titmouse
Ruby Crowned Kinglet
Western Bluebird
American Robin
Yellow Rumped Warbler
Spotted Towhee
Chipping Sparrow
Lincoln's Sparrow
Song Sparrow
White Crowned Sparrow
Dark-Eyed Junco
Red Winged Blackbird
House Finch
Road Runner
On November 30, 2013, Ranger Halley reports that 31 species of birds were spotted at Red Rock SP!
Western Region
- Alamo Lake
- Buckskin Mountain
- Cattail Cove
- Lake Havasu
- River Island
- Yuma Quartermaster Depot
- Yuma Territorial Prison
Northern Region
- Dead Horse Ranch
- Fort Verde
- Homolovi
- Jerome
- Red Rock
- Riordan Mansion
- Slide Rock
- Verde River Greenway
Eastern Region
- Boyce Thompson Arboretum
- Catalina
- Fool Hollow Lake
- Lost Dutchman
- Lyman Lake
- McFarland
- Oracle
- Tonto Natural Bridge
Southern Region


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In this action thriller, a master car thief has his skills pushed to the limit. Randall "Memphis" Raines (Nicolas Cage) can steal practically any car that crosses his path. While he has done well in his life of crime, he knows that there's a short future in theft, and he wants to get out of the business. But his retirement plans are interrupted when his younger brother Kip (Giovanni Ribisi) gets in trouble with a dangerous crime boss. To get his brother out of harm's way, Randall agrees to a profitable but risky scheme to steal 50 luxury cars in one night, with the help of several other car thieves, including Sara "Sway" Wayland (Angelina Jolie). A rival group of thieves is trying to pull the same stunt at the same time, and detectives Castlebeck (Delroy Lindo) and Drycoff (Timothy Olyphant) are trying to shut down both operations. Also starring Robert Duvall as Otto Halliwell, and Scott Caan as Tumbler, Gone in Sixty Seconds is a remake of the 1974 low-budget action hit of the same name, best remembered for a 40-minute chase scene in which 90 cars were destroyed. ~ Mark Deming, Rovi
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Hey Everyone,
Thought Mike Holme's Old Time Music Camp looked pretty cool this year. Any other mando players out there plan on attending?
Seems like there is much more being offered in the way of mandolin this time around. Some of the classes/sessions include: Old Time Mandolin Styles, Mandolin: Pre-Bluegrass Bill, and Blues and Ragtime Mandolin
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Ethical Eating: Vegetarian Kids
Kids Against Animal Cruelty
When six-year-old Aaron A. goes to McDonald's, he gets the fries, a soda, and possibly Chicken McNuggets, but certainly not a burger at least, nothing he considers "meat."
"Meat is from animals, animals are from nature, and I don't want nature to be destroyed," this earnest first-grader explains.
Third-grader Jessica R. shares similar concerns; she's been refusing to eat meat since preschool.
"My brother always gets his hamburger from McDonald's and holds it right in my face," she complains. "It's disgusting."
Of the 12 to 14 million vegetarians in the United States, about 5 percent are children, according to the Baltimore-based Vegetarian Resource Group. Though most of these "veggie kids" are believed to be following their parents' dietary practices, a small but growing number of children and teens are making independent decisions not to eat meat, even though steak, hot dogs, or sausage lasagna are regularly served up at home. While adults often cite health concerns as the reason they've adopted a plant-based diet, children almost always talk about their concerns for animals.
The Babe Factor
"When I see Bugs Bunny chopping up lambs or something on TV, I know it's not really happening," explains Jessica R. "But the movie Babe (the story of a pig saved from slaughter) really bothered me. I was holding my friend's hand and crying. It was so sad."
Aaron's father, David A., agrees that popular culture may be influencing dietary trends.
"When I was growing up, we had the book Charlotte's Web, with the pig Wilbur in trouble," he recalls. "Now there are so many movies and books like that. The whole genre has proliferated."
Still, interviews with young vegetarians suggest that their food choices represent more than a mere reaction to screen images. Rachel C., a freshman at a small Vermont college, moved to a vegan diet (vegans eschew all animal products) after spending her teen years as a vegetarian.
"I think it's wrong to raise animals for food," she says. "And I'm not interested in supporting corporations that profit from animal exploitation."
Should Parents Worry?
"My parents have always had the 'protein issue,'" Rachel C. continues. "When I was in high school, sometimes my dad would say, 'Rach, you're being really stupid about this. You're an athlete, you need protein.'"
"We've had our issues," her dad, John C., admits.
Indeed, many parents worry that a vegetarian lifestyle is unhealthy for kids, and pediatricians offer conflicting advice. Before his death in 1998, the revered baby doctor Benjamin Spock urged parents to rear children after age two on a vegan diet. Dr. Spock, himself a vegetarian, believed meat and dairy could worsen childhood ailments like ear infections, and lead to heart disease, diabetes, cancer, and high blood pressure.
But Dr. Spock's heirs railed against his advice.
"Absolutely insane," Dr. T. Berry Brazelton told the New York Times, insisting that meat and dairy products were essential for healthy development. Experts agree. But to complicate matters still further, the American Dietetic Association weighed in with its support of a vegetarian diet for children.
Jessica R.'s mother Joan, who received a master's degree in nutrition, believes a vegetarian diet can be healthy for kids, but advises other parents to monitor their child's iron intake.
"Jessica's a real bean-eater, and she also gets a lot of dairy, so there's no question about protein. But iron is the one thing she could lack," Joan observes. "She takes a vitamin with iron every day and is tested for anemia every year."
A typical lunch for Jessica might consist of lentil soup in a thermos, a green apple, a container of yogurt, rice cakes, and "a totally disgusting treat, something really junked out." Joan tries to avoid too much cheese, chips, or cookies because of fat content. Although she accepts her daughter's choice, she sometimes tries to tempt Jessica with meat, simply because that's what the rest of the family is eating.
"Sometimes I'll say, 'You used to love BBQ chicken!' At times this (vegetarianism) can be a bit of a pain, but then we'll just pop open a can of soup."


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"Nobody describes a flower in the same way"
Toronto's Sister Writes gives women writers center stage.
The day is cloudy and rain is falling on Toronto, but the program room of The Bloor Gladstone Public Library is filling with the smell of fresh coffee. It's 9:50 am when I show up and set my green binder down in front of me. A few minutes later, a dozen other women have joined me around the table, sharing jokes, talking, all of us with matching binders bearing stickers that read "Sister Writes."
It's a typical Tuesday morning at Sister Writes, a not-so-typical program in Toronto's downtown west end. As the city's first free creative writing program for women and trans people, most of the 14 diverse participants here had never done creative writing before joining the program. They also came from different corners of the world – Portugal, China, Bosnia, Cuba, Brazil, Poland and Mexico, to name a few. Some had faced challenges including limited access to education, social isolation, poverty, homelessness and mental health issues. Others wanted to improve their English and writing skills.
I joined Sister Writes in 2011 after living in Toronto for two years. I was born in Mexico and studied journalism with a focus on Indigenous issues. My life wasn't easy but I was able to make a living as a writer and an editor. When I came to Canada I sent my résumé to several newspapers, especially those written in Spanish, but the answers I received were not what I expected. They were not really interested in my writing but in my ability so sell publicity. Once, the editor of a newspaper even asked me for money in order to sign a contract with him.
Furthermore, I felt that my English wasn't good enough to compete with local journalists. Nonetheless I never gave up; all I wanted to do was to write.


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In a brilliant example of irony, Rainn Wilson cracks us up playing humorless cubicle drone Dwight Shrute on NBCs
The Office
a role that has earned him two Best Supporting Actor Emmy nominations. He nabbed the part after gaining fame as a bizarre morticians intern on HBOs
Six Feet Under.
In 2007, he took to the big screen in a hilarious cameo as a mouthy cashier in
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. Clearly, 42-year-old Rainn nails the offbeat outcast, but we found out hes twice as funny out of character.
How did you get such a unique name?
My dad wanted to name me after Rainier Maria Rilke, the poet. But he couldnt because we lived close to Mount Rainier in Washington, and he didnt want everyone saying Oh, they named you after the mountain? So it was changed to Rainn.
Do you consider yourself a beta male?
No, but I definitely think of myself as a nerd. I was a total dork in high school. I found that you could not get girls if you were on the chess team, but you could get girls if you were a drama nerd.
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A guy may wear a suit and have a high-paying job and appear very mature, but essentially, hes a 14-year-old boy.
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My eyes. They are piercingly, intensely sexy. Theyre like hypnosis devices.
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I'm not sure I even remembered to brush my hair on Monday, but I still managed to trick at least two people into thinking I have it all together. YOU CAN, TOO.
How can I let my Mom see that's its not right that my grandmother makes her feel so badly?
fat acceptance
Should I start emailing my mom articles about fat acceptance?
the good men project
I no longer feel bemused or casually supportive of my mom's Zumba expertise; the only word I can come up with now is proud. She is the Zumba Queen, we are her royal subjects, and there's nothing funny or adorable about it.
what the parenting books don't tell you
I used to waste a lot of time comparing myself to others. Now I think about all the things I could have been doing instead -- namely, being super awesome instead of worrying about not being awesome enough.
dating advice
My mother is very concerned that my cat is the reason I don't have a boyfriend.
what the parenting books don't tell you
All those other parents out there? They are way too busy internalizing all this stuff and thinking that THEY are the bad parent to really think that YOU are the bad parent.
I want you to know that today, when I looked in the mirror, I saw cheeks that could use a little more collagen and a nose that could use a little more height and a chin that could probably be shaved down a little.
you are the advice columnist
I'm a SOHM right now so this sounds so luxurious!
Every night after our respective Arby's shifts, my mother would crack open a Bud Light and scoff at these women on TV who spend their days getting massages and "working" on their hand bag lines.
This one survey says yes.
As long as I can remember, "leg stuff" as been a topic of conversation and controversy with my mom and me.
America is the only developed nation that doesn't mandate paid maternity leave.
mother's day
Who are these demure souls wielding garden gnomes and keepsake boxes while raising America's youth?
mother's day
I called my mom to read this before we published it, and she said, "Are you sure the story isn't called 'How Not To Be a Dick to Your Mom?'" God, I love her.
mother's day
I recognize that it's ridiculous of me to demand that something be planned in my honor, while at the same time insisting that I shouldn't be the one to plan it.
Also I've looked into buying a bird feeder. I'm just saying.
Suddenly, at 20 years old, I was the head of the family, and I had to take care of my sisters, who were 15 and 16, on my own.
family drama
My momentary shock upon finding out that my room was a camper trailer in the backyard, quickly turned into relief that I would be occupying a completely different living space than the stains and the cocaine.
Ask me how many movies I've seen since my kid was born.
A friend of mine recently received an anonymous email telling her to "cool it" with the baby pics on Facebook. Who does that?!
Tina Fey recently said that she won't talk crap about her own body in front of her daughters because she doesn't want to set a bad example. I wonder if my mom did the same thing, but now that I've grown up, she no longer has to maintain the illusion.


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Gary belongs to: Saltburn Surfers
Gary first saw people surfing in Wales in 1971. He began surfing three years later. He moved to Saltburn in the 1980s and began to sell and hire surfing equipment from the beach. The Saltburn Surf Shop has continued to grow.
Gary was interviewed by Carl Greenwood on 9 February 2006. The interview took place at Saltburn Surf Shop and lasted 16 minutes and 50 seconds.
Environmental conditions in the North East
"Its a lot better now, you know, youre talking on, maybe seven or eight years ago, it was atrocious"
Its a lot better now, you know, youre talking on, maybe seven or eight years ago, it was atrocious, actually, you know. We used to surf in a sea of pollution and it was really bad. It was, it was a different colour, you know, it smelt bad. Since the local sewer pipes have been disbanded out here, the sewage now is pumped up the road to Redcar, there in holding tanks and it goes down to Brands Sands which is treated now, so, Id say 95% better than it used to be seven or eight years ago, you know. But we could still, you know, stop all of the pollution going in, and I do believe Northumbrian Water have got a major programme to all the North East beaches which effectively will clean the whole sea up, you know. I myself personally in the last seven years have seen a lot more sea life. Ive seen more sharks, more dolphins, more porpoises and a lot more fish. Ive even seen shoals of fish out to sea which I know seven years ago I wouldnt even have seen, you know, so, yes, you do see more. The sea life was probably still out there, but you didnt actually see it, so it is a major difference.
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Hauppauge Digital, Inc., the world's leading developer and manufacturer of TV tuners and HD video recorders, has launched their latest high definition video game recorder, HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition at the Gamescom, Cologne, Germany. HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition will have a list price of £159.99 and features high definition HDMI and Component video recording up to 1080p/30, plus HDMI 'no delay pass-through' so gamers can record their game play while playing on a TV monitor. The HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition is a complete kit for gamers who want to record their Sony PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360 game-play in high definition. HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition has near perfect video quality and records HD video from either HDMI or Component video at up to 1080p/30. Gamers can share their best video game-play with friends on YouTube by using the included Showbiz application to record and then upload videos to YouTube. HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition allows any user to produce their own video movies from their game-play. All cables necessary to record game-play, including HDMI in and out cables plus a special PS3 Component video cable are included. The best HD game recorder yet HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition includes a pro-quality HD video encoder so gamers will get the best video quality when they record game play. All recordings are in H.264, which is the video format used to make HD Blu-ray discs. To make installation easy, HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition has "no delay" HDMI pass-through. This means that gamers can connect HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition between their game console and a HD TV set using HDMI and play their games on the HD TV set live without any delay. HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition comes with Arcsoft ShowBiz, which has a record and YouTube upload button to make posting game recordings onto YouTube easy.
I came across this on the Hauppauge web page last night. It looks interesting. I have the original Hauppauge HD PVR and use it daily with Microsoft Media Center to record HDTV up to 1080i / 720p with no DRM restrictions (HBO-HD, Showtime-HD and so on). A very reliable and unique product. I also have the newer Hauppauge Colossus PCIe card which does the same thing as the HD PVR internally and has a higher attainable bit-rate. While I don't use them for gaming the new Hauppauge HD PVR 2 sounds interesting. It might be worth looking into as I'm sure it can be used for HDTV recording with third party programs and now supports a full 1080p.
To you maybe, but there are enough people out there that have been waiting for something like this, so making ill-conceived statements like that just makes you look foolish...
If you call someone a full at least provide some arguments to the table also some examples. Otherwise you are the foolish one...
On a PC you can do this FOR FREE, or for CHEAP, using FRAPS or similar. On a console you have to buy a whole new hardware kit because they are closed proprietary systems where people can't write apps or utilities to do this FOR FREE, or for cheap. I say BOYCOTT such devices in the name of environmental protection. Why are we wasting time and resources to do something the wrong way? All in the name of corporate driven consumer walled gardens. Walled garden is the wrong term. Consumer jail more like. And I say: jailbreak!
No, I said you'll look like a fool, not full... http://www.youtube.com/gaming <- does that prove my point?
And with fraps you lose what, 10-20fps? This is for you to hook up to a second system to record the game play without loss of performance. Anyhow, each to their own and it's not something I'm about to buy, but plenty of people will be getting it.
Perhaps lose 10-20fps but you will still be 100fps higher than a console! If you capture at 60 fps or lower and at console resolutions, not higher res or higher fps... and your PC has a ramdisk or a decent HDD system or SSD, you shouldnt be losing 10-20fps at all. Yes, people will buy it. But my point is: PC gamers dont need this! Nah-nah-na-nah-nah
i dont know. to each his own. but if you want something like this perhaps you spend too much time gaming. just sayin'...
Or perhaps people play competitively and want to record the matches? It's a shame it doesn't stream, as there are websites dedicated to streaming live games these days too... But judging by the comments above, this product isn't for any of you.
I think people may be looking at this wrong. I bought a Hauppauge HD PVR unit very early on. In fact I preordered my first unit before the product was available. It was billed as a general purpose 1080i / 720p HD (H.264 / AVCHD) recording device (via component). It was only later in the products life that Hauppauge released the HD PVR Gaming Edition. As near as I can tell there is no functional difference between the first "Gaming Edition" and the original HD PVR. Therefore Hauppauge is simply using marketing to try and appeal to a different set of users in a slightly different use case such as gaming. So, for example, I should be able to buy the new Hauppauge HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition unit and incorporate it into my Media Center system. In doing so I would be able to go from a max of 1080i to 1080p and likely would have higher bit-rate options. Therefore there are a number of different uses for it. Many people bought these things to offload their video collection from their rented DVR and so on,.....
im sure there is a market for this product. i am just questioning the motives of someone who buys it.
Well, I didn't, I just use a play word. Not my fault you didn't get it.. to brag who has the biggest e-pen on gaming maybe? I know some gaming sites will use this for game reviews, but whom else?
There wasn't, but there will be a difference in the second generation products, although it's mostly software and firmware related, but they have a few more products coming, including some streaming hardware which was already announced.


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Yeah, Bungie is basicly remaking Halo-3, only they make it so that you can play as an ODST trooper. In my oppinion it's kinda pointless. Who knows though, it could be awesome.
Saying that Halo 3: Recon is a remake of Halo 3 is like calling Halo 2 a remake of Halo: Combat Evolved. New story, new setting, new guns (as evidenced in the trailer here: http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx … urnextgame) and even a new main character. I can't wait, but I'm going to have to, it's slated for a Fall 2009 release.
That looks amazing.
Most trailers do...
Concept art was released by Bungie on Friday.
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Also, two weeks ago or so Bungie staff played through the entire game, with most of the dialog filled in by Joseph Staten, I believe. So its fully built.
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San Francisco --- A few more comments from the locker room after Green Bay's 34-28 loss to the 49ers...
David Bakhtiari, LT
On his debut, against Aldon Smith: "I did OK. I did good but there's definitely things I can work on. I can't be held at the standard of, 'Oh, he did good as a rookie.' I need to be good as a left tackle. When I see the film, I'll have an official assessment of how I did."
On pass protection as a whole: "I think we had very good moments and I think at times, their defense, their front gets after the quarterback."
On run game struggles: "It was just a combination of all 11 guys on the same page. A couple of times, the holes were open on the outside and the running backs were going on the inside. Sometimes, we were messing up on the inside and the backs needed to bounce it out. It's a matter of building that cohesion and having us click on all cylinders."
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On team playing with an edge:"Yeah, we've been hearing a lot of talk about our football team. We definitely wanted to go out there against an opponent and prove what we were about. We played tough, played hard but just too many mistakes. Turnovers, penalties. We've got a lot to clean up. It didn't go the way we wanted it to."
On the no-huddle: "Obviously the four scoring drives are what you want. But all the other drives, there were too many three and outs and too much stalling around midfield and not converting our third downs. We still have a lot of work to do there."
Mike Daniels, DE
On the game plan: "The plan was to get after them. We did that fairly well but obviously could have been better. We'll watch the tape, learn from it and get ready for the Redskins here."
On if it's disheartening that they stopped Kaepernick on ground and still lost: "It's always disappointing to take a loss, but like I said, we just have to learn from it. There were a lot of good things and a lot of things that could be improved upon. We just have to improve upon it and get ready for the Redskins this week."
Datone Jones, DE
On the bad blood between teams: "Yeah, there's a lot of bad blood. That was the first opener I ever lost. I've never lost an opener, no matter what sport I played in. It's a bad taste in my mouth. All I can do is come back, prepare hard next week in practice and get after it."
On his ankle: "My ankle's doing really good. It's better than ever. I'm not back to where I was, but I'm back. Nothing was going to stop me from playing in this game. ...All I can do is go out there, hold my own and play hard. I see other guys like Matthews going hard and the whole defensive line going hard, I'm a part of this team now and I want to make a statement too that I can help and keep building my trust with these guys so I can get more playing time."
QB Aaron Rodgers, QB
On Jordy Nelson's game: "Typical. Jordy is a great player. When he's healthy, he is tough to guard. He makes incredible catches look easy and I'm not surprised."
On what he takes away from the loss: "It is one game. We lost. We are 0-1 and now we go back home. I mean you want to look at the big picture but also address the things you did wrong. We are going to do that and we will be back next week with our first home game."
On the offense: "I don't think we played our best game. I think we've got to do a little better situationaly obviously and you can't turn the ball over like that. I thought it was sloppy at times, but when we had to make some drives there when we were down in the first half and third quarter, we made them. We just couldn't put it together in the fourth quarter."
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Man, all this toughness talk has really gotten to these guys. Not a good sign.
I don't know about that BMS. I personally loved the Clay Matthews tackle on Calvin Copperdick! He'll pay a fine and maybe it cost the Pack in this game, but teams are going to be nervous about getting hit like that and like we saw after that. I think it fired up the defense. No one is going to call the Pack soft now (except, of course, for the secondary). I do look forward to Morgan Burnett returning as soon as possible. That will make a difference, I assure you.
Did Kaepernick get nervous after that hit?
Could not believe the amount of 49er penalties. You would have thought they were playing as the visitor. Still with all that, having #'s 22,43,24,59 and 50 playing a lot on defense gave us little chance. Please show old game film of Willie Wood tackling bigger guys like Jim Brown, etc. He hit them near the shoe tops hard, and they went down in a hurry. Pitiful exhibition of defensive techniques. Why do our safeties, behind the receiver look to be attempting the INT, instead of hitting the receiver or taking an angle to tackle that receiver. Just horrible to watch. 37 and 38 were pathetic as well. The O will score, but can they score enough to offset this horrible inside linebacking and secondary?
Is that all you know how to do, b*tch endlessly? You add no value here, so kindly just go away.
The packers are a two person team. Rodgers and Clay Mathews, everyone else are either average or below average standards. The last two years they have won games by outscoring their opponents, this is not sound football. The Defense does not exist and the special teams are not special. They are headed for 8 and 8 if their lucky. Detroit and Chicago are vastly improved. Lesson to be learned...time for capers and crew to fade away.
wrong, our D Line shut down Gore who is a great back, also shut down CK runs, what cost us this game pure and simple was our defensive backfield. we were scoring on them, and if the dbs could have made some plays we would have beat a great team
Hahaha this guy needs his own spot with Skip Bayless or at least a blog for this stuff. best line ever "the last two years they have won games by out scoring their opponents, this is not sound football". please come back and post more of this classic stuff
Crafted, Palmercot rarely disappoints. If only the Pack could win a game or two by scoring less than their opponents. Now that would be progress.
Possibly the worst o-line in the business.
not even close to the worst o-line.
The line did a pretty fair job in pass protection...they had a little help from the backs...but Rodgers was on his feet for most of the game...I thought the left tackle did a pretty fair job for a rookie....
After watching the Steelers, the Packers are not the worst o-line in the business. But after watching Sitton, EDS and Lang get worked by the d-line - well, they aren't good either. EDS is a guy you love to have on the bench, but not as a starter. Sitton was very disappointing.
EDS is not that strong, Kareem, but cut Sitton some slack. He's still adjusting to the left side, and those weren't creampuffs he had to handle.
Here's my take on the game.... I loved the intesity and aggressiveness the Packers played with. They also matched Niners physically. I didn't love the mistakes the Packers made, both mental and physical.
Jermichael Finley -- he stills drops too many passes. The int was on him, not Rodgers.
Clay Matthews made a bad play when he tackled Humperdinck out of bounds, but the biggest mistake he made was talking about hitting him during the week. My feeling is, shut up about things like that, because Harbaugh is going to use that and the penalty to alert all the officials about Matthews and he'll be a marked man whenever he does something that's borderline.
All in all, it was a good effort, but the Packers made no adjustments to stop Anquan Boldin rom making us look silly. They did a great job against the run, but Humperdicnk threw for over 400 yards with half of them going to Boldin. You can't have that.
I will say it again. I never want to see John Kuhn carry the football again.
I was glad MM benched Lacy after the fumble. He has to learn you can't do that. I thought Starks looked pretty good, considering.
Jordy Nelson and Cobb were great all day, but James Jones was having trouble getting open all day long. And Finley gave a great effort on his TD, but I watched him try to block and he just went through the motions.
Two things: One, it's just one loss. Two, the Niners know the Packers can play with them. Now, it's time to focus on the Redskins.-
Pretty fair summary PackfanNY....
Agreed, well said. I think this defensive front will be all over RGIII next weekend, and Lacey will recover. Hate to watch our defense shredded, but the Pack went toe to toe this time
At least we haven't heard the "We beat ourselves" lines. At least I haven't. Otherwise, I agree. Keep your mouth shut and play hard.
Packers have the talent to play with the 49ers. Unfortunately they are not as tough. This game was lost because apparently Burnett and Heywards hamstrings are made of saw dust. I would like to think those 2 players would have made a difference in slowing down Boldin and Davis. Injuries happen to every team but they happen to the Packers a bit more than other teams, and when they do it takes Packers longer to recover than other players. It's only a matter of time before Clay has his annual hammy pull and is out for 4 weeks.
Actually hamstrings and Josh Sitton deciding to have one of the worse games of his career. It got to the point that I was scared to see a run over 5 yards because it meant going 10 yards back on a Sitton penalty.
The Packers and the Niners are two very even teams.... What I saw was a shootout back and forth game which I seen for the most part... People on these blogs have spoken about the Packers secondary being horrible but it was the same for the other side also.... Both teams had no run game last night... The one key thing once again hounded us was TAKEAWAYS the Lacy fumble and that bad fumble by Finley swayed the game for the Packers... I saw a Packers win but that game was the type of game where you can't commit turnovers and mistakes like that.... Still early in the season so dont write this team off yet...
I see the Packers winning next week... Going to be a great year... We will meet the Niners again in january and I can say I am confident THAT game will belong to the Packers....
I agree. I hated to see the Pack lose but they played arguably the best team in the NFL on the road and it came down to the last couple series to determine the winner. I thought the D played sound, especially the front seven. The safeties need to pick up their game but overall I thought the team looked pretty good for its first game.
Since when is playing the best team in the league on the road OK the Packer standard? And BTW, I doubt that the 49ers believe that they played their best game either. No run game, too many penalties, defensive lapses, etc. Packer fans have high expectations since 2010 SB. We lost, a conference game. Learn and move on; don't rationalize a loss.
Kaepernick outplayed Braun lover Rodgers. Niners are a better coached team on defense.
PeterByrne ... enough with the classless snarky comments re Braun and Rodgers. The latter already said he was disappointed a (former) good friend looked him in the eye and lied. Again, that was classless and unnecessary. Elevate your game here.
I think the secondary needs to stop peaking in to the back-field. Too many times they bit on fakes. They need to play the receiver and not be trying for picks.
So many times, all they have to do is run with the receiver. Most QBs won't even throw to a guy that's covered. If the QB makes a great throw, and the WR a great catch, so be it. But don't make it easy for 'em by biting on fakes.-
I'm all for them "peaking" in the backfield -- means they got there on a blitz.
Obviously not having Burnett was key. McMillian and Jennings showed their lack of maturity and experience. It was almost comical to hear MM say that Boldin got double-teamed in the second half....every time I saw him, he was running free somewhere. I give a lot of credit to the front 7 for the job they did against the run. Niners have one of the very best OLines in the league, and our guys made plays time and time again. Jolly is a definite plus, and there's still some juice in Pickett's tank, too. You would certainly think 28 points should be enough to win a game.


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