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Obamacare that's that taxes just keep coming our -- -- McDonald's has told us about that.
Mass of obamacare tax increase on its way but the obamacare program designed to help people with preexisting medical conditions.
Is running out of money.
These so called preexisting condition insurance plan was supposed to help up to.
With preexisting conditions until Obama carefully -- in next year -- the problem with that.
Is that only a 135000.
Folks have signed up war against what they just didn't.
They capped -- They said we don't have the money their insurance is proving more costly than they have been.
Apparently that they -- believe they've been told that they didn't have enough money that put five billion dollars.
Appropriate five billion dollars for the back up the pre existing condition.
Less than half of that remains available and so they decided they better stop it now because they're spending money on an unbelievable rate.
New importance are -- now turn to weigh on top.
A majority of states are now rejected what it is after all the the heart of obamacare the so called insurance exchanges.
Health care marketplaces.
-- consumers can buy individual private policies beginning October 1 and then apply for in some cases government subsidies to help pay their premiums.
26 states.
I've said to Obama care.
No deal.
They're leaving it up to the federal government to set up those exchanges seventeen states and the District of Columbia are running their own exchanges seventeen.
And the District of Columbia.
And seven states are partnered with the government -- sort of sort of a compromise seven cent in states.
Seven states seventeen states and DC.
Now the other the -- what they thought -- do.
Leaving the federal government absolutely flabbergasted they have no idea what to do right now so why -- 26 states opting out.
-- pure and simple.
Republican governors 24 of them have rejected those exchanges say they simply can't trust the federal government to cover the full cost of operating and exchange.
And guess what they've got some pretty good evidence for that already the pre existing.
Element of the program has been capped and shut down.
Because there are out of money.
Those governors were pretty Smart right now owed the taxes as a result of Obama -- -- you're noting are showing up almost daily.
-- to keep up with what's happening to them to the tax burden on the American working man and woman in particular in the middle class working men and woman in this country.
Every night on this broadcast we're going to be covering those taxes the hidden costs the public policy disasters.
That -- mounting with each passing day.
All of that which is -- -- here.
Because Obama cares sticker shock is worsening each and every day.
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Between China and the rigidly alphabetised West, I wondered just which was the more disciplined and ordered society ?"
Renewable energy and energy efficiency targets might be at stake, but so are jobs in the emerging green economy."
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Industrialization/corporatization of pharmacy - I assume it is the same all over the US. When one walks into one of these chain pharmacies one sees an exasperated staff answering calls, taking orders from the drive thru, filling prescriptions, catering to lines of customers, calling doctors, insurers, kept on hold, etc. I feel sorry for them. (In contrast has anyone ever seen a government agency employee work so hard?) I read this and I can relate:
****On Being a Doctor (in this case a pharmacist)| 3 September 2013
A Day in the Life of a Corporate Retail Pharmacist
David D. Dore, PharmD, PhD
Ann Intern Med. 2013;159(5):366-367. doi:10.7326/0003-4819-159-5-201309030-00014
It was the Tuesday after Memorial Day and my fourth consecutive 13-hour day in the pharmacy. Having just passed the boards, I landed a job as a floating staff pharmacist. It was my first time working at this store and my third store in as many days. I did not know what to expect except that, as usual, I would be the only licensed pharmacist working here today. This fact struck me as a microcosm of my profession's ineffectualnessan ineffectualness resulting from misaligned objectives and poor processes of care, afflicting first pharmacists and, ultimately, patient care.
Today's store was small and old, the mirror against the wall a vestige of the soda fountain of years past. The fibrous carpet, with its familiar gray-square pattern, was the same as that at the two megastores where I worked over the weekend. Familiar, too, was the impending tumult of the day, which was as disruptive to the 20-year veteran pharmacist who managed this store as it was to me.
Arriving at the pharmacy, I entered the alarm code and raised the dusty gate. I prepared the cash register and logged into the ancient computer system, wondering when the pharmacy technician was due to arrive. Fifty new refill requests awaited. I preferred to arrive early for busy shifts, especially on a Tuesday after a holiday, but it was against corporate policy.
I answered the telephone. Jim, this is Rocco. I need my orange pills and my inhaler, the caller said.
Sir, Jim has the day off. I'm filling in for him. Let me see whether I can help you. What is your last name?
He hung up. I answered a second call. It was the practice nurse from one of the local primary care providers responding to a question left on voicemail the previous evening. Prescriptions with pending problems are conventionally left in plain sight, but I found no note or other evidence of the situation. Perhaps the permanent pharmacists would have known of this issue, though not through any evident record-keeping system. No two systems were alike.
I'm sorry, but I'l have to call you back, I said.
She hung up, wasting no time on pleasantries. My anxiety grew.
Standing alone in the pharmacy, I turned my attention to the now 60 prescriptions waiting. I spent the next 10 minutes processing the prescription orders, overriding the many warnings that popped up on the computer screen, thinking of the alarm fatigue that my colleagues at the hospital experience with medical equipment. The whirling of the laser printer drowned out the overhead music.
The first technician arrived 15 minutes late and began counting tablets on a small plastic tray by using a spatula that resembled a butter knife. Meanwhile, I was caught in a proxy battle with an insurance company. They no longer paid for olmesartan. A patient would have to use an alternative drug that her insurance company now preferred.
I called the physician's office to request a substitution, cursing the fact that I could not make the substitution without a physician's approval. After waiting on hold for several minutes, I left a message requesting a prescription for valsartan. I made a note to call the customer, who had not yet learned that her prescription was changing.
The technician was also on the telephone, and four customers arrived at the counter in rapid succession. The first woman tapped her keys on the counter, apparently to ensure that we noticed her. I smiled at her while my anxiety mounted.
After hanging up the telephone, I greeted the woman at the counter. She handed me a prescription for isotretinoin, for which the Food and Drug Administration required a special program for therapeutic risk management. I had to call a telephone-based registry system before filling the prescription.
I have a new insurance card, she said, handing me a card that had no information that could be used for billing a pharmacy claim.
You should have received a separate card for your pharmacy coverage, I told her. Do you have it?
I didn't get it.
I'l call the insurance company, I said.
How long will it take?
About 30 minutes.
But your advertisement says that prescriptions will be filled in 15 minutes or less.
She was right.
I'm sorry, but that is not feasible at the moment. I'l finish it as soon as possible, I said.
She walked away with an angry look. I didn't notice, but that day I had not yet used any knowledge of pharmacotherapy that was the focus of my training.
The next customer was an overweight, out-of-breath woman in her mid-70s named Mrs. da Silva, who arrived with her daughter. Mrs. da Silva was a regular customer who spoke only Portuguese. Translating, the technician told me that Mrs. da Silva was just discharged from the hospital for what I inferred was an acute myocardial infarction. I had no access to her actual diagnosis or medical records. Mrs. Da Silva handed me 12 prescriptions written by the hospital's housestaff.
In subsequent moments, I prioritized the filling of Mrs. da Silva's prescriptions; her pale appearance suggested that she would be better off resting at home than sitting on a bench next to the pharmacy. The chaos of the routine prescription-filling circled just beyond my attention.
As the technician translated, I began counseling Mrs. da Silva on the importance and logistics of taking the medicines. I realized quickly that she learned very little about the medications from her doctors at the hospital, which came as no surprise. During the inpatient rotations of my training, I learned how hectic hospital life could be for medical interns and residents.
Then, a second technician whose arrival I barely noticed interrupted to tell me that I had to take an urgent telephone call from a cursing customer. The caller was a man irate about the copayment for the prescription that his daughter had just picked up. When I returned to the counter, Mrs. da Silva was gone. I contemplated calling her when she arrived home but was interrupted by a beeping noise indicating that a car was at the drive-through pharmacy window.
She just wanted to go home, said the technician who had translated.
I do not know why I allowed my conversation with Mrs. da Silva to be interrupted except that a typical day at a corporate pharmacy involves being understaffed and overworked, resulting in the need to address one urgency after another. Technician help is scarce, not because there are too few technicians but because corporate overseers allocate staffing resources.
Moreover, prompt responses are expected in retail, even if I have no influence over the physician's choice of drug or the insurance company's coverage policies. The large corporate pharmacies limit staff in favor of profit and promise convenience instead of health care. I also know that continuity of care after discharge from the hospital is imperfect and that community pharmacists are the most accessible health care providers.
As a community pharmacist, I cannot be expected to be a patient's primary care provider; indeed, physicians must follow their sickest patients closely. However, it seems that improving the patient-centeredness rather than profit-centeredness of pharmacy care would prevent lost opportunities for patientprovider dialogue, such as that with Mrs. da Silva.
Reflecting on the reasons why I went to pharmacy school, I recall that in my precollege years I had simply wanted a future career where I could help people. Although I considered a range of options, the college of pharmacy's recruitment materials touted the effect that one could have after completing the required doctoral-level training. Perhaps in a different practice setting that effect could be realized.
I spent the remainder of the day filling the 400 prescriptions that were waiting for my attention, talking to customers and physicians offices on the telephone, and answering routine questions at the counter, all the time being rushed by the incessant flow of work. Yet, when I walked away from Mrs. da Silva, I knew that I had missed the most important opportunity that day to provide real pharmaceutical care.
Several months later, I was back at the same pharmacy working with the same technicians when Mrs. da Silva's daughter came in to tell us that her mother had died. With sad eyes, she told us that it was unexpected, because Mrs. da Silva had made a promising recovery from the first heart attack.
When I opened her pharmacy record to document that she was deceased, I noticed that Mrs. da Silva had never refilled her 12 prescriptions. My heart sank. To this day, I wonder whether Mrs. da Silva died of a diseased heart or a broken pharmacy system.****
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WSJ: Hey Doc! Have you washed your hands?
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October 01, 2013, 03:11:58 PM »
It's a simple enough request, but for patients and families who feel vulnerable, scared or uncomfortable in a hospital room, the subject can be too intimidating to even bring up with a doctor or nurse: Have you washed your hands?
Hospitals are encouraging patients to be more assertive, amid growing concern about infections that are resistant to antibiotics.
Strict hand hygiene measures are the gold standard for reducing infections associated with health care. Acquired primarily in hospitals but also in nursing homes, outpatient surgery centers and even doctor's offices, they affect more than one million patients and are linked to nearly 100,000 deaths a year, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The CDC aims to engage both patients and caregivers in preventing dangerous hospital infections.
Yet despite years of efforts to educate both clinicians and patients, studies show hospital staff on average comply with hand-washing protocols, including cleansing with soap and water or alcohol-based gels, only about 50% of the time. Two new studies show patients aren't much more comfortable today than a decade ago with the idea of asking doctors and medical staff to lather up.
Hospitals have reduced certain infections over the past four years with measures such as removing unnecessary catheters and washing a patient's skin before surgery with antibacterial soap. Some have lifted hygiene compliance to nearly 100% with strict "wash in, wash out" protocols, and some have designated unidentified staffers to secretly monitor co-workers. Some hospitals link merit increases to compliance and temporarily suspend clinical privileges of doctors who ignore the rules, says Gina Pugliese, vice president of the Safety Institute at hospital purchasing alliance Premier Inc. According to a 2010 study, a disciplinary program at the University of Kentucky Medical Center in Lexington that included suspending doctors' privileges led to improved compliance rates.
More hospitals have turned to electronic sensors, thermal imaging and video cameras to monitor hand hygiene, and some are issuing badges that wirelessly record staffers' use of hand hygiene stations before entering a patient room. Some monitoring systems emphasize patient engagement and sound an electronic alert to remind patients to speak up when a staffer enters the room.
The CDC has provided 16,000 copies of a video, titled "Hand Hygiene Saves Lives," to be shown to patients at admission. In one scenario, a doctor comes into a room and the patient's wife says, "Doctor, I'm embarrassed to even ask you this, but would you mind cleansing your hands before you begin?" The doctor replies, "Oh, I washed them right before I came in the room." The wife says, "If you wouldn't mind, I'd like you to do it again, in front of me."
After patients at 17 hospitals run by Cincinnati-based Catholic Health Partners watched the video, there was a rise in both the proportion of patients asking staffers to wash their hands, and physicians and nurses reporting that they were asked, according to a 2010 study. "Hand hygiene is probably the most important thing health-care workers can do to protect their patients from infection," says John Jernigan, director of the CDC's hospital infection-prevention efforts who appears in the video. When patients speak up, it helps create "a culture of safety," he says.
The nonprofit Association for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology is kicking off a campaign this month including posters mailed to 15,000 hospitals with tips on how patients can take an active role. It suggests asking staff about hand hygiene and requesting that hospital rooms be cleaned if they appear dirty.
"We've been focusing on intensive interventions to improve hand hygiene among health-care workers for decades, yet we've really shown very little progress," says Carol McLay, a Lexington, Ky., infection prevention consultant and chair of the committee that designed the campaign. "We are trying to empower patients and families to speak up and understand their role."
At some hospitals, posters, bedside placards and buttons for staffers say, "Ask me if I've washed my hands." Susan Coffin, a pediatric infectious disease physician at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, says while many efforts are made in good faith, they are "insufficient to overcome some of these barriers." She is co-author of a study, published in June in the American Journal of Infection Control, which found that 84% of parents were aware of infection risk yet only 67% would remind a health-care worker to wash their hands, most often because of concern about appearing rude or undermining authority. Yet 92% of parents said if a health-care worker invited reminders, they would be more likely to do so. The hospital is "trying to make it a more active conversation," Dr. Coffin says. Admission packets offer detailed information on hand hygiene and nurses tell families that staffers welcome questions about hand washing.
In a study published in September in the journal Infection Control and Hospital Epidemiology, one-third of patients surveyed at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center said they observed doctors failing to wash their hands, but nearly two-thirds said nothing to their doctor about hand hygiene. Most didn't believe it was their role to do so and said they felt embarrassed or awkward and worried about reprisal.
Patients are more likely to ask nurses about hand hygiene, says Gregory Bump, associate professor of medicine. "There is something about the white-coat barrier that makes them reluctant to challenge doctors." Physicians may resist assertive patients and seem unreceptive or even hostile to a question about hand washing, he says.
Patients, instead of receiving information about infections and hand washing, would prefer having staffers wear a button or light to indicate whether his or her hands had been washed, the study also found. UPMC is developing a system to measure and track hand-washing compliance, as well as computerized verbal reminders to patients to ask the employee to clean their hands when they enter the room.
Michael Gettes, 50, has been hospitalized several times and says he has never had to remind Dr. Bump, his primary physician, to wash his hands. He has asked other hospital staffers to do so. One doctor reacted negatively. "It put our relationship on a bad footing," Mr. Gettes says. "Yes, you run the risk of upsetting someone who has been taking care of you. But it is my life. If they make a mistake I am impacted or I die."
Gail Ulager, a 72-year-old kidney transplant recipient at UPMC, says she worries about the possibility of infection because she is taking drugs that suppress her immune system to prevent rejection of her new organ. She found a way to give the message to doctors, nurses and even her dentist without seeming disrespectful. "I always tell them that the transplant center insists that everyone washes their hands" she says.
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Re: Health Thread (nutrition, medical, longevity, etc)
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October 02, 2013, 09:15:32 AM »
Yes I have been asked this before.
I tell patients with infections to wash their hands at home to prevent them from spreading to their families or getting something else.
Try washing your hands at home the next time you have a cold every time you touch your eyes your nose your mouth of blow your nose or cough with your hand over your mouth.
See how easy it is.
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Cure for Cdiff - eat shit
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October 03, 2013, 08:48:02 PM »
As ridiculous as this sounds, despite millions spent on special antibiotics, this of all things, appears to be the giant advance we have been waiting for.
****Pills made from poop cure serious gut infections
Dr. Thomas Louie, an infectious disease specialist at the University of Calgary, holds a container of stool pills in triple-coated gel capsules in his lab in Calgary, Alberta, Canada on Thursday, Sept. 26, 2013. Half a million Americans get Clostridium difficile, or C-diff, infections each year, and about 14,000 die. A very potent and pricey antibiotic can kill C-diff but also destroys good bacteria that live in the gut, leaving it more susceptible to future infections. Recently, studies have shown that fecal transplants - giving infected people stool from a healthy donor - can restore that balance. (AP Photo/The Canadian Press, Jeff McIntosh)
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Hold your nose and don't spit out your coffee: Doctors have found a way to put healthy people's poop into pills that can cure serious gut infections a less yucky way to do "fecal transplants." Canadian researchers tried this on 27 patients and cured them all after strong antibiotics failed to help.
It's a gross topic but a serious problem. Half a million Americans get Clostridium difficile, or C-diff, infections each year, and about 14,000 die. The germ causes nausea, cramping and diarrhea so bad it is often disabling. A very potent and pricey antibiotic can kill C-diff but also destroys good bacteria that live in the gut, leaving it more susceptible to future infections.
Recently, studies have shown that fecal transplants giving infected people stool from a healthy donor can restore that balance. But they're given through expensive, invasive procedures like colonoscopies or throat tubes. Doctors also have tried giving the stool through enemas but the treatment doesn't always take hold.
There even are YouTube videos on how to do a similar treatment at home via an enema. A study in a medical journal of a small number of these "do-it-yourself" cases suggests the approach is safe and effective.
Dr. Thomas Louie, an infectious disease specialist at the University of Calgary, devised a better way a one-time treatment custom-made for each patient.
Donor stool, usually from a relative, is processed in the lab to take out food and extract the bacteria and clean it. It is packed into triple-coated gel capsules so they won't dissolve until they reach the intestines.
"There's no stool left just stool bugs. These people are not eating poop," and there are no smelly burps because the contents aren't released until they're well past the stomach, Louie said.
Days before starting the treatment, patients are given an antibiotic to kill the C-diff. On the morning of the treatment, they have an enema so "the new bacteria coming in have a clean slate," Louie said.
It takes 24 to 34 capsules to fit the bacteria needed for a treatment, and patients down them in one sitting. The pills make their way to the colon and seed it with the normal variety of bacteria.
Louie described 27 patients treated this way on Thursday at IDWeek, an infectious diseases conference in San Francisco. All had suffered at least four C-diff infections and relapses, but none had a recurrence after taking the poop pills.
Margaret Corbin, 69, a retired nurse's aide from Calgary, told of the misery of C-diff.
"It lasted for two years. It was horrible. I thought I was dying. I couldn't eat. Every time I ate anything or drank water I was into the bathroom," she said. "I never went anywhere, I stayed home all the time."
. Thomas Louie, right, an infectious disease specialist at the University of Calgary, administers
With her daughter as the donor, she took pills made by Louie two years ago, and "I've been perfectly fine since," Corbin said.
Dr. Curtis Donskey of the Cleveland Veterans Affairs Medical Center, who has done fecal transplants through colonoscopies, praised the work.
"The approach that Dr. Louie has is completely novel no one else has done this," he said. "I am optimistic that this type of preparation will make these procedures much easier for patients and for physicians."
The treatment now must be made fresh for each patient so the pills don't start to dissolve at room temperature, because their water content would break down the gel coating. Minnesota doctors are testing freezing stool, which doesn't kill the bacteria, so it could be stored and shipped anywhere a patient needed it.
"You could have a universal donor in Minnesota provide a transplant for someone in Florida. That's where we're heading," Donskey said.
Other researchers are trying to find which bacteria most help fight off C-diff. Those might be grown in a lab dish and given to patients rather than the whole spectrum of bacteria in stool.
Thomas Louie, an infectious disease specialist at the University of Calgary, prepares vials in t
The hope is "we could administer that as a probiotic in a pill form," Donskey said.
Louie sees potential for the poop pills for other people with out-of-whack gut bacteria, such as hospitalized patients vulnerable to antibiotic-resistant germs.
"This approach, to me, has wide application in medicine," he said. "So it's not just about C-diff."
CDC on C-diff:
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How in tarnasion is this possible?
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November 07, 2013, 11:04:58 AM »
I don't know how a "new" ligament could be rightfully "just" discovered. With hundreds of thousands, millions of knee surgeries and replacements and MRI etc.
I wonder if the new ligament is simply being re categorized as being separate from the lateral collateral ligament and not perhaps a sporadic separate head of the same ligament.
If I run into any orthopedic guys I'll get their opinion.
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Lets hear it for pubic hair!
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You Are What Your Bacteria Eat: The Importance of Feeding Your Microbiome
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November 24, 2013, 08:18:13 PM »
You Are What Your Bacteria Eat: The Importance of Feeding Your Microbiome With Jeff Leach
Podcast with a transcript
"Were more microbe than mammal. That really wasnt well understood a decade ago, and so the new DNA techniques are allowing that. And whats really remarkable is that not since Darwins concept of natural selection has something had such a profound impact on our understanding of self. In our anthropocentric world, we think were the center of it all, but at the end of the day, the microbes are actually pulling the levers on a lot of whats going on when you consider that at the gene level they outnumber us 150 to 300 to 1. Were born with genes that mom and dad gave us, and were pretty much stuck with those, but the genes in our gut again, the bacteria are called the microbiota, and when you add their genes in as well, thats our microbiome. Of course, a biome is just an ecosystem, so we have this inner ecosystem. So, depending on how we treat them, they can make life OK or they can make it problematic, and when they get out of balance, its now thought that that may be the root or the cause of a lot of disease. The problem is working out causality versus correlation."
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Re: Health Thread (nutrition, medical, longevity, etc)
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November 25, 2013, 09:09:12 AM »
Very interesting Rachel, an excellent find.
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Time to prevent elderly from living too long?
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December 01, 2013, 09:36:57 PM »
My experience in medical care has brought me to the conclusion that care near the end of life does not have to be akin to an all out war fought to keep a patient alive till their last dying breath. Alternative options such as palliative care or hospice care are ethical, valid, and most importantly humane options for many. The key word is these must remain as OPTIONS that can be chosen, sampled, refused or changed with the knowledge that the decision is never binding. I still am convinced that medical science has as much capacity to reduce costs as well as increase them. Just think how much death and disease will be prevented when we are better at curing a disease like Hepatitis C. How about dementia or obesity? People will live longer and mostly though not always better.
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Life and dignity with Wesley J. Smith.
Time to Prevent Elderly From Living Too Long?
By Wesley J. Smith
December 1, 2013 5:03 PM
Bioethicist Founding Father Daniel Callahan has long supported death panel health care rationing based on age. He has now weighed in against spending a lot on research to delay the aging process.
The transhumanists arent going to like this! From, On Dying After Your Time:
Even if anti-aging research could give us radically longer lives someday, though, should we even be seeking them? Regardless of what science makes possible, or what individual people want, aging is a public issue with social consequences, and these must be thought through.
Regardless of what science makes possible, or what individual people want, aging is a public issue with social consequences, and these must be thought through. Consider how dire the cost projections for Medicare already are. In 2010 more than 40 million Americans were over 65. In 2030 there will be slightly more than 72 million, and in 2050 more than 83 million. The Congressional Budget Office has projected a rise of Medicare expenditures to 5.8 percent of gross domestic product in 2038 from 3.5 percent today, a burden often declared unsustainable.
Contrary to the transhumanist eschatology, Callahan doesnt believe that extending the length of lives will also mean extending their vitality. I tend to agree. But he doesnt exactly practice what he preaches:
Modern medicine is very good at keeping elderly people with chronic diseases expensively alive. At 83, Im a good example. Im on oxygen at night for emphysema, and three years ago I needed a seven-hour emergency heart operation to save my life. Just 10 percent of the population mainly the elderly consumes about 80 percent of health care expenditures, primarily on expensive chronic illnesses and end-of-life costs. Historically, the longer lives that medical advances have given us have run exactly parallel to the increase in chronic illness and the explosion in costs. Can we possibly afford to live even longer much less radically longer?
Callahan could have refused that expensive treatment. I dont say he should have, but no one forced him to spend all that (presumably) public money on care.
He does ask a valid question, I think, about the wisdom of pouring resources into radical life-extending research (at least public money). However he also seems to assert that the elderly be somehow prevented from living longer (my emphasis):
We may properly hope that scientific advances help ensure, with ever greater reliability, that young people manage to become old people. We are not, however, obliged to help the old become indefinitely older. Indeed, our duty may be just the reverse: to let death have its day.
What does that mean? Some kind of Logans Run scenario?
Callahan isnt that type. But he should have specified what he meant. As I read him, he seems to be proclaiming some kind of a moral duty of the elderly to die.
Or it could mean refusing efficacious medical care to the elderly that the younger would be able to obtain. In less genteel hands than Callahans, it could mean something even more insidious.
My, dont those clouds on the horizon look dark?**********
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marijuana gossip
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December 02, 2013, 07:55:17 AM »
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5 Jaw-Dropping Facts About Legal Marijuana
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The legal use of marijuana for both medical use and adult recreational use is on the rise. Here are five facts that might just surprise you about the drug.
Source: Chuck Coker, Flickr.
1. Marijuana could be the best-selling legal drug. Ever.
According to ArcView Market Research, the national market for legalized marijuana could hit $10.2 billion in five years. Pfizer's (NYSE: PFE ) Lipitor currently holds the record for prescription drugs at about $13 billion. If ArcView's prediction is correct, it's not hard to see how marijuana could surpass that record in the following year. It's growing from a base of just $1.44 billion this year.
And unlike Pfizer, which saw Lipitor sales crash once generic versions hit the market, there isn't likely to be a cliff that causes sales to drop precipitously, short of having the federal government decide to crack down on state laws. Of course, unlike Lipitor, you can't invest in one company to capture all the revenue.
2. 14 states could join Colorado and Washington legalizing marijuana for recreational use
In fact, that's one of the driving forces behind ArcView's growth prediction. The sentiment has shifted recently; a majority of Americans now favor legalization. If they vote the same way they answer poll questions, it's likely that we'll see many more states where marijuana use is legal in the coming five years.
The driving force for the states is the potential revenue from taxes. They want to get their cut, which they don't get on illegal sales now.
It'll be interesting to watch Colorado and Washington as they try to deal with how to tax what many consider to be a drug to help people -- which are typically not taxed -- compared with a recreational drug, which, like cigarettes and alcohol, are typically highly taxed.
3. The government sends out marijuana cigarettes each month
It's part of a study to see if marijuana could help patients with glaucoma. At its peak, there were 30 patients enrolled in the study, which stopped accepting new participants in 1992. Those still enrolled get sent their prescriptions from a special farm on the University of Mississippi campus that provides the drug for medical research.
4. Only 6% of studies on marijuana investigate its potential benefit.
According to CNN's Sanjay Gupta, the other 94% investigate its potential harm. The problem, as Gupta points out, is that it's very hard to run clinical trials on marijuana use since it's still illegal at the national level. While the University of Mississippi farm can provide the medication legally for studies, it's apparently not that all that easy to acquire medication from it.
Researchers also have to gain approval from the NIH's National Institute on Drug Abuse, which has a mission "to lead the nation in bringing the power of science to bear on drug abuse and addiction." That's not exactly a ringing endorsement for potential benefits of drugs.
5. The receptor that marijuana activates has been an (unsuccessful) drug target
Tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, one of the active drugs in marijuana, is available as a prescription drug called Marinol, developed by Abbott's drug arm, now called AbbVie (NYSE: ABBV ) , to stimulate appetite and control nausea and vomiting in patients taking chemotherapy. But the drug isn't widely used because it's absorbed by different people at different levels, making it hard to get the right dosage .
Sanofi (NYSE: SNY ) tried to do the opposite and block the receptor, thus controlling appetite. While Sanofi's obesity drug, Acomplia, was fairly good at helping patients shed the pounds, it had psychiatric side effects including depression. The FDA never approved the drug, and Sanofi had to remove it from the market in Europe in 2008.
My thoughts: On #1 Best selling drug? Who would grow it and sell it?
On #2 Kind of sad that the driving force for legalization is tax revenue. Just another example how everything is money. I guess one could make similar claims for gambling and prostitution where those are also legal. Alcohol and maybe a sugar tax. The latter suddenly could be labeled a vice.
On #3 I didn't know the government was sponsoring studies on use of marijuana for glaucoma. It can lower intra-orbital pressures but my understanding is the affects were too erratic and there are so many better drugs that the use for this is dubious. I met an eye doctor in Florida who got into trouble with the ATF for testing this. He claimed they ruined his life and his wife eventually committed suicide over it. I only know his side of the story. This was about ten years ago. He was in his seventies.
On # 4 Old drugs do make comebacks. Gupta noted that most studies looked at the harms not the benefits. Remember thalidomide? The drug given to pregnant women in Europe that led to horrible birth defects? Just the mere mention of it afterwards gave everyone the shivers. Now it is a beneficial drug used for other diseases.
On # 5 The Sanofi drug did work to help people lose weight but then a suicide was reported and that was that in the US. I don't know what the experience was in Europe since it was approved there and later taken off their market.
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Report this Comment On December 01, 2013, at 5:25 AM, VikingBear wrote:
Legalize everything.
Let the herd cull itself.
Report this Comment On December 01, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Kalamakuaikalani wrote:
Hard to take your article seriously when you title it "5 Jaw-Dropping Facts ....." & then subtitle number 1: 1. Marijuana could be the best-selling legal drug. Ever. ................... It's not a FACT if marijuana COULD BE. It either is or it isn't & THEN, that would be a FACT.
Report this Comment On December 01, 2013, at 8:53 PM, glenns45 wrote:
Controlled Substance Act of 1971 signed by a President who was forced to resign or be prosecuted. The DEA was created to make sure the right people were selling the Drugs and supporting the NWO. The Feds are the ones who bring in the drugs this is on public record do some research.
Report this Comment On December 01, 2013, at 9:23 PM, towolf2 wrote:
When it smacks somebody upside the chops, then you know what is a fact and what isn't. That's 35 years as a pro grower speaking. Say hey to The Duke for me!!
Report this Comment On December 01, 2013, at 9:26 PM, towolf2 wrote:
Which part am I reading? The educated humorous enriching part, or is this the NASCAR Channel. Caught out again.
Report this Comment On December 01, 2013, at 9:53 PM, oldmutt1949 wrote:
5 other jaw breaking facts about marijuana.
1. It has 424 compounds that turns into over 2000 when lit.
2. Those 2000 compounds release numerous poisons including hydrogen cyanide and carbon monoxide.
3. French Academy of Science using the atomic microscope has shown long term use of marijuana can alter a person DNA ( Science Daily )
4. Total number of people killed in the drug war in Mexico, central and Latin America exceeds the number of U.S. casualties in VIet Nam.
5. A lot of hippies from my generation who smoked this polluted crap are no longer here.
And last but not least their isn't a single study that has confirmed that all the substances in marijuana are safe evident by he emergency rooms a In Denver and other cities kept busy treating kids poisoned by this stuff because their parents are so dumb down they can't provide their children a safe environment.
Report this Comment On December 01, 2013, at 9:59 PM, fixer wrote:
Hemp used to be such a valuable crop that in George Washington's time ,farms we're required to plant a percentage of their fields with hemp.The oil from the seeds was a good lamp oil and the fiber made strong cloth and rope.
Report this Comment On December 01, 2013, at 10:21 PM, southernhippy wrote:
Old mutt is lying his butt off, Just look at old willie Nelson to see the truth, Pot smoking does not affect your age. Off course old mutt is talking about smoking and not one work about eating.
Report this Comment On December 01, 2013, at 10:24 PM, junior wrote:
something else you forgot oldmutt1949, there was talk about leagalizing it in my state. Even if it does become legalized, we were told by the plant manager that if our random pee test revealed any THC we would still loose our job.
This is why I agree with Vikingbear. Let the herd cull itself. The job market may open up so that someday I can find a job where I can afford a pack of store bought cigarrettes
Report this Comment On December 01, 2013, at 10:32 PM, southernhippy wrote:
BTW mutt lets add some other facts to that mix..
Pot smokers tend to be closer to normal weight...
Higher good cholesterol.
Also lets add the fact that smoking pot don't increase you chances of lung or any other cancer. Not to mention and numerous medical uses of MJ among those would be nausea, seizure control, pain management. So when do we decide when the good outweighs the bad? Almost every war on Pot argument has been debunked, when do you see anything other than hate?
BTW us hippies are alive and well living a great and healthy life style, after all it was us hippies who came up with the who vegetarian thing long before anyone else, peace out...
Report this Comment On December 01, 2013, at 10:57 PM, imnxtc2001 wrote:
"evident by he emergency rooms a In Denver and other cities kept busy treating kids poisoned by this stuff" Yeah oldmutt, them hospital rooms are just packed with them pot smoking whippersnappers. Too funny! If you have any time between your naps and your shuffleboarding league, you can take a few minutes to look up that marijuana by itself equals the same amount of emergency room visits as OTC sleep medicine. I will give you the benefit of the doubt, that you may have been mistaken for synthetic marijuana which is extremely dangerous.
Report this Comment On December 01, 2013, at 10:57 PM, OldSkewel wrote:
Oldmutt1949 is NOT lying southernhippy. ANYONE with at least 1/2 a brain knows it is NOT natural OR healthy to take smoke of ANY kind into a healthy set of lungs.
What I find truly ironic is the very same people that use to jump all over big time tobacco companies and the dangers of smoking absolutely sound like hypocrites now touting the oh so many benefits of cannabis which EVERYONE knows the most popular form of use is the SMOKING thereof.
While we're on the subject of cannabis, somebody please remind me, isn't hashish addictive? What, basically; is hashish comprised of...?
As far as the economic impact is concerned, it WOULD make sense to legalize it but that's the ONLY reason and EVEN THEN, the economic benefits would be relatively short term compared to the devastating social and moral impact (especially considering America's children) that would no doubt occur as you just as well can take America's public education school system and pitch it out the window, not that it works that well now but can you imagine what would happen if "chronic" was legalized...?
Report this Comment On December 01, 2013, at 11:08 PM, imnxtc2001 wrote:
Just one more observation while I'm still laughing....I'm not perfect with punctuation or grammar, but someone that doesn't smoke marijuana telling me: "jaw breaking" instead of "jaw dropping"...."their" instead "there"....."he" instead of "the"....."a In" instead of just plain out "in" minus the "a" and capital "I".....Geez, I need to smoke a bowl to even make sense of your comment at all.
Report this Comment On December 01, 2013, at 11:09 PM, southernhippy wrote:
Odds of MJ addiction is the same as gambling, Pot has no chemical addiction. You also have the same chance of becoming a workaholic or any other habit that could be considered a bad or good life choice. Pot has been around for more than 10k years and has not stopped any progression of mankind. BTW CBD's that are found in pot are also anti-cancerous, also naturally lowers blood sugars and even can protect the brain in the event of a heart attack or stroke. BTW we are also talking about Eating the plant, y'all do know it's non-toxic and impossible to overdose on right? Y'all are just looking that that lovely drug free propaganda against a persons right to live as they chose too. BTW one other note, Pot does have 5 natural nero keyways in the brain that can open up nero pathways(hence why there is enhanced sight, smells, and creativity.) Pot is indeed a natural product the human mind knows very well. MJ has been demonized for decades for no real reason other than sobriety, nothing else.
I do agree on one Idea though, kids under 21 should not get access and should be treated like booze and advertising should be the same as tobacco when it comes to kids.
Report this Comment On December 01, 2013, at 11:21 PM, imnxtc2001 wrote:
Old Skewel: Is it natural or healthy to drive a car? But you do it anyways don't you? Your trip to the store tomorrow will produce more pollutants into EVERYBODYS air, than one pot smoker can produce in a year. btw....I don't know if you've been asleep the past 50 years, but kids in school(if they choose to)get pot just as easy now, as they would if it was legal and fell under same laws as tobacco. As far as hash...it is basically the same as marijuana, just made from different parts. And the same studies you got your information that it was addictive, are the same ones that say marijuana is also.
Report this Comment On December 01, 2013, at 11:36 PM, HMull81 wrote:
Lets get a few things right:
First - the problem with legalizing any previously illegal substance isnt a morally grounded issue; being that most of these substances are vices are not socially accepted when overly indulged anyway.
Second look up some history and consider why hemp production was ground to a halt in the first place, Ill give you a hint
It wasnt because pothead hippies were overrunning the world with their outrageous free love and open minded way of living, that didnt come until the 60s.
It is all economic and taxation that has put at spin on what any generation finds acceptable.
It doesnt matter if you are for or against the legalization of pot, it matters where it would lead to based off of the revenue gained cause face it, the government has stopped doing for the people a long time ago, and if you are current with what is popular; the Kim and Kanye saga get more press than real issues such as legalizing pot, gun law, government debt, and not to forget my favorite government shut down.
I know that if I quit working when I was a soldier in the U.S. Army there were consequences which usually ended with me in a bad kind of way.
Report this Comment On December 02, 2013, at 12:05 AM, allykat7825 wrote:
This will be the first step in finishing off the Regan inspired War against drugs which has cost so many billions over the years. It put the lotteries to shame when the taxes are added up and make many more people happy. Add cocaine to the list and the cartels are a thing of the past, which should please oldmutt. Oldmutt is probably not as old as I am and despite rumors to the contrary, and what many others might think, I still have my wits about me. .
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Report this Comment On December 02, 2013, at 2:05 AM, uniquelyNzaneSam wrote:
Where oldMutt1949 is investment advice?: anti-pesticidal controls against garden herbivores? Bet on that eliminates most carcinogens' category of compounds. Good alarm oldMutt about marijuana combustion: extreme diarrhea treatment on terminal illness cases will not intrest as much financial and mental risk as combustibles, crack and meth. Expect ascending physical medicine values from home-brewed tea-therapy thereby more versatile prescriptions flavorful hashish gel-capsuled and milligram-tweeked synthetically. Noncombusted eliminates psychological addiction injuring only nervous system like brain damages from psychotropic over-use.
>Behavioral health dermal patches prescribing "thc" will dominate nicotine futures into oblivion. Chemical, money lust, even commercialed availability are not the gateway drugs guaranteeing stupefied economics. Anti-faith religious propaganda misinterpretation-poisoning scorches your love into an emptying black-holes to drain away everyone&thing appreciable. Artificial counterfeits especially joy inducements cannot possibly satisfy longest-term spiritual-nature provisions. Will algebraic naturals ever displace monetary abstracts? Where oldMutt1949 is investment advice?: anti-pesticidal controls against garden herbivores? Bet on that eliminates most carcinogens' category of compounds. Good alarm oldMutt about marijuana combustion: extreme diarrhea treatment on terminal illness cases will not intrest as much financial and mental risk as combustibles, crack and meth. Expect ascending physical medicine values from home-brewed tea-therapy thereby more versatile prescriptions flavorful hashish gel-capsuled and milligram-tweeked synthetically. Noncombusted eliminates psychological addiction injuring only nervous system like brain damages from psychotropic over-use.
>Behavioral health dermal patches prescribing "thc" will dominate nicotine futures into oblivion. Chemical, money lust, even commercialed availability are not the gateway drugs guaranteeing stupefied economics. Anti-faith religious propaganda misinterpretation-poisoning scorches your love into an emptying black-holes to drain away everyone&thing appreciable. Artificial counterfeits especially joy inducements cannot possibly satisfy longest-term spiritual-nature provisions. Will algebraic naturals ever displace monetary abstracts? Someday Where oldMutt1949 is investment advice?: anti-pesticidal controls against garden herbivores? Bet on that eliminates most carcinogens' category of compounds. Good alarm oldMutt about marijuana combustion: extreme diarrhea treatment on terminal illness cases will not intrest as much financial and mental risk as combustibles, crack and meth. Expect ascending physical medicine values from home-brewed tea-therapy thereby more versatile prescriptions flavorful hashish gel-capsuled and milligram-tweeked synthetically. Noncombusted eliminates psychological addiction injuring only nervous system like brain damages from psychotropic over-use.
>Behavioral health dermal patches prescribing "thc" will dominate nicotine futures into oblivion. Chemical, money lust, even commercialed availability are not the gateway drugs guaranteeing stupefied economics. Anti-faith religious propaganda misinterpretation-poisoning scorches your love into an emptying black-holes to drain away everyone&thing appreciable. Artificial counterfeits especially joy inducements cannot possibly satisfy longest-term spiritual-nature provisions. Will algebraic naturals ever displace monetary abstracts? Perhaps after college graduations? How might one economically invest private citizen properties, hide them secure from theft, or accelerate prosperity to make defrauding obsolete?
Report this Comment On December 02, 2013, at 2:50 AM, gareball wrote:
"Only 6% of studies on marijuana investigate its potential benefit.
According to CNN's Sanjay Gupta, the other 94% investigate its potential harm. The problem, as Gupta points out, is that it's very hard to run clinical trials on marijuana use since it's still illegal at the national level. While the University of Mississippi farm can provide the medication legally for studies, it's apparently not that all that easy to acquire medication from it".
If the FDA were to subject ANY drug from Big Pharma to the same skewed testing there wouldn't be a new drug on the market for decades. I'm betting that the drugs 'oldmutt' or 'Old Skewel' take to stay alive would never have passed such rigorous testing, and probably contain more virulent side effects than marijuana ever could.
Step into the 21st century, guys, and realize that it's time to put the idiotic and woefully expensive "war on drugs" to rest. It hasn't, and never will, work.
By the way 'old' fellas.....I'm 64 myself and have been a regular pot user for more than 45 of those years. I'm the picture of good health, thanks to a vegetarian diet, and will probably outlive both of you pot demonizers by a decade, at least. Oh, and 'Old Skewel', hashish IS NOT addictive, it's basically the resin from the marijuana flower and is nothing more than a more potent delivery device for THC. The sum total of what you anti-pot "experts" DON'T know is astounding. Then again, when you rely on anti-pot propaganda for your "facts" you're deliberately being fed a pack of lies designed to keep Big Pharma, the Liquor Lobby, and the 'for profit' prison system in customers for years to come. Try thinking for yourself, for once, and do the research so you'll be armed with REAL facts!
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Please post in "War on Drugs" thread as well.
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Quote from: ccp on December 02, 2013, 07:55:17 AM
The Motley Fool
5 Jaw-Dropping Facts About Legal Marijuana
I have favored 'de-criminalization' over legalization, a subtle but important difference.
"On #1 Best selling drug? Who would grow it and sell it?"
Anyone with a profit motive.
"On #2 Kind of sad that the driving force for legalization is tax revenue. "
"On #3 I didn't know the government was sponsoring studies on use of marijuana for glaucoma. It can lower intra-orbital pressures but my understanding is the affects were too erratic and there are so many better drugs that the use for this is dubious."
I believe they can measure and control dosage much better now.
(And it's going up at an alarming rate!)
"Hashish IS NOT addictive, it's basically the resin from the marijuana flower and is nothing more than a more potent delivery device for THC."
Addictive and habit-forming are synonyms.
"5 other jaw breaking facts about marijuana.
1. It has 424 compounds that turns into over 2000 when lit.
2. Those 2000 compounds release numerous poisons including hydrogen cyanide and carbon monoxide."
They now vaporize - heat only to the temp that releases the drug - and not light it. Releases fewer toxins.
"kids under 21 should not get access and should be treated like booze and advertising should be the same as tobacco when it comes to kids."
Agree, but good luck with that when it is available everywhere. See my first point, decriminalize it, not endorse it.
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What to Consider Before Undergoing a DNA Test
A Columbia University bioethicist discusses medical and ethical issues raised by testing
By Anne Tergesen
Dec. 8, 2013 4:32 p.m. ET
As the price of sequencing a person's entire DNA has tumbled from $1 billion a decade ago to a few thousand dollars today, many adultsand their physiciansare turning to genetic tests to better understand and manage their health.
The process, though, can be problematic. Some people who test, like the actress Angelina Jolie, learn information that can have dramatic consequences for their health and insurabilityand that of their relatives.
And the testing business itself is still young and experiencing growing pains. Last month the Food and Drug Administration ordered genetic-testing firm 23andMe Inc. to stop marketing its $99 mail-order kit. The agency warned that false results could prompt consumers to undergo unnecessary health procedures. The company halted all ads for the kit and said it would work with regulators to address their concerns.
To better understand some of the issues people should consider before undergoing genetic tests, we spoke with Robert Klitzman, director of Columbia University's master's of bioethics program and the author of "Am I My Genes? Confronting Fate and Family Secrets in the Age of Genetic Testing." Here are edited excerpts from the conversation:
WSJ: Should the average person get tested?
(Robert Klitzman: 'A key question is what you will do with the information.' Amelia Panico)
DR. KLITZMAN: We still haven't found the genes responsible for most cases of common diseases, including Parkinson's and the inherited forms of most cancers. But tests have been developed for about 2,000 relatively rare genetic diseases, including the hereditary neurologic disorder Huntington's disease and the BRCA1 and BRCA2 gene mutationsthe former of which Angelina Jolie tested positive forwhich raise the odds of getting breast cancer to about 50% from 12%, on average.
When deciding whether to get tested, a key question is what you will do with the information. It probably makes sense to test if you believe you are at risk for one of the 24 or so treatable conditions with very predictive tests among the 2,000 with available tests. Aside from breast cancer, they include a form of hereditary colon cancer called Lynch syndrome, familial medullary thyroid cancer, and hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, which can cause sudden death. The presence of certain other genes can also help in predicting responses to some medicines.
It is important to keep in mind that testing positive for a mutation doesn't always mean that you will get ill. Nor does testing negative always mean you are safe. For example, with Alzheimer's, those who receive a genetic variant from both parents have around a 50% to 60% chance of developing the disease, but these patients account for only about 10% of those who get Alzheimer's.
WSJ: What kind of genetic test should individuals get?
DR. KLITZMAN: You can be tested for the specific disease you and your doctor are concerned about. Many insurers cover those tests.
You could also have your full genome sequenced for about $8,000. Interpreting it costs several thousand dollars more. The price of testing your whole genome will probably soon be around $1,000.
For about $100, some companies test portions of your DNA. But these tests aren't always accurate, in part because people can have mutations elsewhere. Before testing, consult with a genetic counselor.
WSJ: Do people have an obligation to share the results with relatives?
DR. KLITZMAN: Ethically, I think we owe it to people to give them information that can help them, if we can. But before you blurt out the results, ask your relatives if they want to know, and raise the subject before you get tested.
WSJ: Should you confide in your doctor?
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DR. KLITZMAN: Some people who test positive for serious diseases hesitate to tell their doctors, because once the information is in their medical charts, an insurance company can access it. A federal law passed in 2008 prevents insurers from using the results of genetic tests to turn people down for most forms of health insurance. But the law doesn't apply to life, long-term-care or disability insurance.
WSJ: What lies ahead?
DR. KLITZMAN: My guess is that in 10 or 20 years, many of us will have our genomes sequenced, and a lot of us will be getting certain information whether we want it or not. My concern is that, in the future, some of these decisions may not be entirely the patient's.
The American College of Medical Genetics and Genomics recently recommended that patients who have all their genes tested get told the results for 56 genes involved with the 24 treatable, serious genetic conditions. But parents would then be told about genes in their children that might have no effect for decades, if ever. All this is a brave new world.
Ms. Tergesen is a staff reporter for The Wall Street Journal in New York. She can be reached at
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By claiming her 17th grand slam singles title at the U.S. Open, Serena Williams now sits just one major title behind legends of the game Martina Navratilova and Chris Evert, and five behind Steffi Graf, who holds the Open Era record of 22.
It now seems inevitable that she will at least tie and perhaps even surpass the numbers set by Navratilova and Evert, solidifying her place in the debate over who is the greatest of all time, but just how many more can she win?
When you try to estimate how many more wins an aging champion has left in them, the first step in the process is to quantify the pace of deterioration in said player's game. Have they lost a step here, a few miles an hour off their serve there?
However, in defiance of her senior status in the game, Serena Williams actually appears to be moving better than she did in her twenties, and as for power, her fastest serve came at this year's Australian Open, when she clocked 128.6 mph (207.6 kph) - just 0.4 mph shy of her sister Venus' world record.
Read: Serena wins fifth U.S. Open title
It's no exaggeration to say that at nearly 32 years old, Serena is physically fitter, technically better, psychologically tougher, and emotionally stronger than at any time during her remarkable career. And her results show it, having won nine titles so far this year, eclipsing her previous best of eight set back in 2002 during the peak of her powers, when she won the first three legs of the Serena Slam.
The second biggest factor in determining an aging player's future is the quality of the next generation nipping at their toes.
When Serena burst onto the scene as a teenager in the late '90s, the women's tour was overflowing with future Hall of Famers such as Graf, Monica Seles, Martina Hingis, Lindsay Davenport and Arantxa Sanchez Vicario, not to mention her older sister, who was starting to make serious waves in the game.
In the early 2000s, the depth of competition was equally deep, with Justine Henin, Jennifer Capriati, Kim Clijsters and Venus to contend with. And yet, during these times, Serena was able to carve her own place as one of the dominant players of the era.
These days her only real threat comes from Victoria Azarenka and, to a lesser extent, Maria Sharapova. And yet, between the two of them they share a combined five wins over Serena in 32 attempts. As for the rest of the world's top 10, they combine for just four wins over Serena in 38 attempts.
In a nutshell, Serena is in a league above the current crop of contenders.
For many players her age, burnout is a factor which can a serious impact their ability to continue winning.
Fortunately for Serena, her tendency in previous years to play an abbreviated schedule, focusing on the major events, with relatively little attention on her ranking, has allowed her to develop a life outside of tennis, including ventures into fashion, business and the entertainment world.
She has also spent a good deal of time away from the game due to injury. The most recent, and most serious, keeping her away from the game for almost an entire year, during which time she spent time in hospital suffering with potentially life-threatening blood clots in her lungs.
Faced with the very real possibility that her career could have been over, Serena appears to have returned to the game with a newfound drive. The cliche goes, you don't know what you've got till it's gone, and for Serena, she seems to now fully appreciate what she has, and is striving to make the most of it.
With this new focus and appreciation for the game, Serena has already spoken out about her future, more than hinting that she's already filled out the 2016 Olympics application form, signed the check and mailed it in, guaranteeing she'll be around for at least another three years.
Of course, you can expect that at 35, Serena's inevitable decline in fitness would be unavoidable, but with the best-of-three set format the women's game plays at grand slams - unlike the men's five - she could probably still compete at the highest level at 70% of the strength and speed she currently exhibits.
Excluding the year she missed due to injury, Serena has averaged two grand slams a year since late 2008. If she were to continue that trend until the Olympics in 2016, she'll have accumulated a total of 22, tying Steffi Graf for the most singles majors in the Open era.
While that seems like a daunting task for any player, identifying a factor which could stop is hard to pin down.
From here on in, the only obstacle standing between her 22 majors is her own body. She's not been immune to injury in the past, and no player is ever immune from it in the future.
If she can stay healthy and manage her schedule well, I don't see any reason why she cannot continue to win multiple majors each year between now and the Olympics. And who's to say she'll stop there?
Even if she never wins another match, she'll go down as one of the all-time greats, but I for one don't think she's close to being done. Watch out Steffi, I think Serena's got five more in her.
What about Margaret Court's 24 Grand Slam titles?????
What about them? This a more competitive era in women's tennis.... Just because of globalization of the sport ... There are so many more countries competing than there were back then....the level of competition now is crazy... Even Martina said that!!!!
Margaret Court's 24 titles is a fantastic record, and she also has a grand slam. However, 11 of those are at the Australian Open starting in the early 60s. A lot of the players didn't travel down under to what was then the final major of the year. Also, some of those years were not in the Open era, which means pros couldn't compete. So – a great record, but with some reservations. I'd also note that reservations are there for Evert Lloyd (the queen of the French Open skipped that tournament for a couple of years due to tennis politics; she would have won those) and for Graf, who was on a major losing streak to Seles before a deranged Graf fan took her out for nearly 3 years. Seles would have won a lot more, and Graf would have won fewer.
She's tied with the great Roger Federer!
Monica Seles is the greatest of all time, though. Her record – before the outrageous attack on her – was simply extraordinary and she dominated Steffi Graf over a long period.
She's the greatest I've seen, along with Williams, and I think she would have figured out grass. I think she's one of the few who would have had a great chance to defeat Williams on a regular basis. She didn't have a chink in her psychological armor; she was Nadal-like in her competitiveness and ability to focus. She would have been pounding the corners with huge power strokes that would have frustrated Serena, and a younger Serenea could become dispirited from behind. Serena has more poise now and can stay in events even if behind.
no..she isn't s good as Serena a t her best...noise wise yes but seren is by fr the best ..womens tennis pro ever.no question monic ws good but not quite with serena
"Can Serena Williams become the greatest?" She is a man! The WIlliams brothers!
Seles made a very fine come back Warren but she aint and was no match for Graf or Mr Williams at their best times.
Why don't you hug a lion? insulting a champion ... hater.
Racist, sexist and stupid answer.
You are a nut at best and a bigot at worst.
Leaving aside the sexist and racist rant (terrible!), Seles owned Graf for 2 years before she was stabbed. She would have owned her for a while longer.
harry you do get it..they do ply like men sometimes but its years of practice with someone who knew how to teach them..
Pretty Good.....from Serena Williams
She might be successful , but somebody who wants to 'kill a linejudge by shoving a ball upon her ass should never be considered 'the greatest'
They said "greatest tennis player", not a "perfect mortal". It's not as if goes around threatening people all the time. Can't a mortal in the spotlight be allowed one – just one – moment of frustration and anger?
Why this holier-than-thou pickiness?
Give Serena a break!
christel..its their upbringing..the comment should hve gotten her suspended but she is street to some degree...you dont know how she grew up , so believe me she is out of line but she is living her own way..
Is it that hard to see a black/colored person dominate a white sport? Get used to it cause there are more arising.
Monica Seles was one of the finest tennis players before stabbing.equal to or better than the best. She was top notch. big pity the stabbing made Graff have no competition .after grand slam no 14graff had no competition.the five players are equal.
seles, Graff, evert ,Navratilova and Williams.
You must be joking.
According to Victoria Azarenka and Chris Evert Serena is the greatest player of time. The overwhelming majority of Tennis fans believe that Serena can win more Grand slams like the great Steffi.
"Can win" does not equate to "will win". The numbers will tell the story once she stops playing.
Serena is already the greatest. Ask McEnroe, Everet, Navratilova, Graff, Seles and so on and they will tell you what you don't want to hear or read Does it hurt?
If u count singles as well as doubles grand slam titles, the greatest player is still Martina Navratilova... By a mile.
When people say Serena is the greatest player of all time her quality of game is also taken into consideration and not only the number of grandslams she won. Afterall the great Navratilova was chosen by world journalists in London as the best player of the century (1900-2000) by taking into consideration the quality of her game , eventhough Graf won more grandslams. Body language of Serena during interviews shows that Serena is determined to win atleast 5 or 6 more grand slams. Many believe that she will succeed.And you know what that will mean.
Here is my take on this...Monica, Martina, Steffi, Chris, Kim, Justine all of them were great during their runs...Serena is now on her run and she is great...Why can't we give credit where credit is due. I could not last 1 game against any of the women I just named...They have all mastered their profession and I will take nothing away from any of them.....They were and are great champions. THANK YOU LADIES FOR SOME WONDERFUL TENNIS MOMENTS.
She is winning games but ..... as far as being one of the greats, her character, mannerism, lack of class , rudeness and bullying tactics disqualifies her from consideration.
Serena tries always tries to present herself as a modest person . eventhough her achievments her grandiose.Serena never indulges herself in selfaggrandizement ,eventhuogh it is clear to any one she is a worldfamous champion. Those who elected Pele and M.Jordan as the greatest Football and Basketball players respectively in the history of mankind do have reasons.The tennis experts who called Serena as the greatest player of all time also have enough reasons.
Come on boys and girls this is a game where you can take two days to win a match, Greatest, check this out 9.58 against the rest of the 7.5 B in the world now that impresses me much wow, look out for 9.41 RIO
The record of her serving speed speaks for itself as a great player of all times if we have to compare to the all greatests, think we should give her a place
Serena can never be in the running for one of the greatest players as long as she refuses to justify to the world why she refused to submit to an anti doping test at her home on the 26th October, 2011.
You know how strict they are and penalties would have followed for sure. Just admit and keep breathing meantime that she is the greatest. What's so hard to acknowledge that? Will you get a color of that?
The greatest? # 1 Pass drug tests (not once but several) #2 Become a better person (don't physically threaten umpires, it's called bullying, So the greatest? I don't think so to many faults in character.
You are still in pain, how can we help you?
Let's not attempt to disregard Serena's accomplishments by searching for things to negate her successes. Even at this point of her career Serena could be assessed as the best women's tennis player ever, taking into consideration the number of players playing in the different zones and with the improvement in racquet construction,plus al the other constraints platers undergo, drug testing, travelling from continent to continent, the majors, the champion of champions, it's a lot of pressure when compared to eras gone by, so my take is ...Serena is the best women's tennis player the world has ever seen....period.
These racist, jealous people on here can't get pass the fact that she destroys in the court. They cant wrap their minds around the fact that one of the greatest players in the sport happens to black and a FEMALE!! in a previously all white dominated sport. This is worst than the apocalypse to them, so they pick out negative things about her to make themselves feel better. But she's still dominating!!
Indeed Joey Davis, ist all about jealous people and they can't stand it that a colored woman is dominating the white sport. They still live in the past!