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So what does all this lv0 stuff mean? How does it benefit the scene, its developers and users. Well two well know ps3 developers took the time to explain the significance of this breakthrough that was leaked. One of the first developers who gave an explanation was Marcan (Fail0verflow), followed by Wololo on his website wololo.net where he broke down Marcan's words into simple Q&A for all to understand the true significance in all this.
Marcan from Team Fail0verflow:
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However, because lv0 is also encrypted, including its signature block, we need that decryption key (which is part of bootldr) before we can decrypt the signature and apply the algorithm to derive the private key. We did this for several later-stage loaders by using an exploit to dump them, and Geohot did it for metldr (the second root in the PS3′s bizarre boot process) using a different exploit (we replicated this, although our exploit might be different). At the time, this was enough to break the security of all released firmware to date, since everything that mattered was rooted in metldr (which is bootldrs brother and is also decrypted by the per-console key). However, Sony took a last ditch effort after that hack and wrapped everything after metldr into lv0, effectively using the only security they had left (bootldr and lv0) to attempt to re-secure their platform.
Bootldr suffers from the same exploit as metldr, so it was also doomed. However, because bootldr is designed to run from a cold boot, it cannot be loaded into a sandboxed SPU like metldr can from the comfort of OS-mode code execution (which we had via the USB lv2 exploit), so the exploit is harder to pull off because you dont have control over the rest of the software. For the exploit that we knew about, it wouldve required hardware assistance to repeatedly reboot the PS3 and some kind of flash emulator to set up the exploit with varying parameters each boot, and it probably wouldve taken several hours or days of automated attempts to hit the right combination (basically the exploit would work by executing random garbage as code, and hoping that it jumps to somewhere within a segment that we control the probabilities are high enough that it would work out within a reasonable timeframe). We never bothered to do this after the whole lawsuit episode.
Presumably, 18 months later, some other group has finally figured this out and either used our exploit and the hardware assistance, or some other equivalent trick/exploit, to dump bootldr. Once the lv0 decryption key is known, the signing private key can be computed (thanks to Sonys epic failure).
The effect of this is essentially the same that the metldr key release had: all existing and future firmwares can be decrypted, except Sony no longer has the lv0 trick up their sleeve. What this means is that there is no way for Sony to wrap future firmware to hide it from anyone, because old PS3s must be able to use all future firmware (assuming Sony doesnt just decide to brick them all ), and those old PS3s now have no remaining seeds of security that arent known. This means that all future firmwares and all future games are decryptable, and this time around they really cant do anything about it. By extension, this means that given the usual cat-and-mouse game of analyzing and patching firmware, every current user of vulnerable or hacked firmware should be able to maintain that state through all future updates, as all future firmwares can be decrypted and patched and resigned for old PS3s. From the homebrew side, it means that it should be possible to have hombrew/linux and current games at the same time. From the piracy side, it means that all future games can be pirated. Note that this doesnt mean that these things will be easy (Sony can obfuscate things to annoy people as much as their want), but from the fundamental security standpoint, Sony doesnt have any security leg to stand on now. It does not mean that current firmwares are exploitable. Firmware upgrades are still signed, so you need an exploit in your current firmware to downgrade. Also, newer PS3s presumably have fixed this (probably by using newer bootldr/metldrs as trust roots, and proper signing all along).
They are indeed the bootldr keys (I was able to decrypt an lv0 with them). Consider this confirmation that the story is not fake.
Can this be used to sign binaries to run homebrew on OFW PS3s (ala the PSP key leak)? Are those private keys sufficient to sign homebrew software such that they will run in unmodified firmware?
No. The keys are used for two purposes: chain of trust and chain of secrecy. The compromise of the keys fully compromises the secrecy of the PS3 platform permanently, as you can just follow the links down the chain (off-line, on a PC) and decrypt any past, current, or future firmware version. Current consoles must be able to use any future firmware update, and we now have access to 100% of the common key material of current PS3s, so it follows that any future firmware decryptable by current PS3s is also decryptable by anyone on a PC.
However, the chain of trust can be re-established at any point along the line that can be updated. The chain of trust is safely rooted in hardware that is near impossible to modify (i.e. the CPUs ROM and eFuse key). The next link down the chain has been compromised (bootldr), and this link cannot be updated as it is specific to each console, so the chain of trust now has a permanent weak second link. However, the third link, lv0, can be updated as it is located in flash memory and signed using public key crypto. This allows Sony to secure the entire chain from there onwards. Unless you find a vulnerability in these updated links, you will not be able to attack them directly (applications, e.g. homebrew software, are verified much further down the chain). The only guaranteed way to break the chain is to attack the weak link directly, which means using a flash writer to overwrite lv0. Once you do so, the entire chain collapses (well, you still need to do some work to modify every subsequent link to turn off security, but that is easy). If you have old firmware, you have at least some other weak links that, when compromised, allow you direct access to break the bootldr link (replacing lv0), but if you run up to date firmware youre out of luck unless you can find a weakness or you use hardware.
Old PS3s are now in the same boat as an old Wii, and in fact we can draw a direct comparison of the boot process. On an old Wii, boot0 (the on-die ROM) securely loads boot1 from flash, which is securely checked against an eFuse hash, and boot1 loads boot2 but insecurely checks its signature. On an old PS3, the Cell boot ROM securely loads bootldr from flash, which is securely decrypted and checked using an eFuse key, and then bootldr loads lv0 but checks its signature against a hardcoded public key whose private counterpart is now known. In both cases, the system can be persistently compromised if you can write to flash, or if you already have code execution in system context (which lets you write to flash). However, in both cases, you need to use some kind of high-level exploit to break into the firmware initially, particularly if you have up-to-date firmware. It just happens that this is trivial on the Wii because there is no game patch system and Nintendo seems to have stopped caring, while this is significantly harder on the PS3 because the system software has more security layers and there is a game patch system.
Wololo on his website wololo.net
Wololo comments
Since Marcans answers can be a bit difficult to digest, Ive broken them up into the form of questions and answers with the special help of ViRGE on this. This will clear alot of it up for those less technical.
Q: What exactly has been recovered?
A: The keys used by bootldr to decrypt/verify lv0, and by reversing the process the private keys used by Sony to sign lv0. If we consult our handy 3.60+ chain of trust diagram, we can see that bootldr is at the very root of the chain of trust, with lv0 being the first module it loads.
Q: So what can we do with the lv0 signing key?
A: In short, we can use it to decrypt lv0, modify it to patch out any lv0 security checks, and resign it with a legitimate key that bootldr will accept. With the chain of trust broken and lv0 no longer enforcing the security of the modules that it controls, we can then start modifying lv1ldr, lv2ldr, appldr, isoldr, etc to patch out their security checks and add CFW functionality.
Q: Can Sony fix this like they did for the 3.55 exploit?
A: No. With 3.55 the keys metldr used to verify its dependent modules were recovered. So Sony simply stopped using the now-insecure metldr and started using bootldr (which was still secure) to load.. Sony doesnt have any more secure modules like bootldr left so like I said in my original post they have no options and cant fix anything; without getting too technical, we now have the keys to every common hardware module that is able to decrypt Sony-signed modules. The only thing left are the modules that use per-console keys, which are useless for booting common firmware (which must be decryptable by every PS3)
Q: So bootldr is fixed in hardware?
A: Correct. Like metldr, bootldr cannot be software updated by Sony. Its hard-coded in hardware. As a reminder, bootldr/metldr themselves cant be exploited, but because of the keys we have recovered we can make them load anything we want, nullifying whatever security they provide.
Q: What about future firmwares?
A: Good news! We can decrypt those too. Sony can use various coding tricks to make the process more difficult (this is called obfuscation), but they cant stop us by using keys. We will always be able to decrypt lv0, and as long as we can figure out how to navigate lv0 we can figure out how to decrypt and modify its dependent modules. For those of you that follow Sony hardware this is much like how the earlier PSPs were hacked. So we can always decrypt the firmware and will be able to create newer CFWs as long as we can get past any obfuscation by Sony
Q: So the PS3 is utterly and completely broken?
A: To an extant yes, debatable but unlike the 3.55 hack we have mostly everything needed. Sony will never be able to re-secure existing consoles.
Q: What about consoles running firmware newer than 3.55?
A: Because all old consoles use the same keys to verify modules like lv0, at a minimum we can decrypt, patch, and resign the firmware. The problem is that we need a way to convince the PS3 to flash our modified firmware. With 3.55 and below that was easy enough to do because of the keys recovered, but 3.56 and later change that so that flashing is more complex than just using the recovered keys. This isnt an insurmountable problem hardware flashers will always work but for easy software flashing we need to find new exploits in the PS3 software stack to convince OFW consoles to flash CFW
Q: What about newer consoles?
A: So theres the real problem. Remember how we said bootldr and metldr are fixed in hardware? Sony can create new hardware, and update those modules in the process. By using new hardware in conjunction with new firmware for that hardware, Sony could completely change the keys used to secure the system. Without getting too technical, all of this progress comes from the fact that Sony was sloppy and did a poor job of implementing their security on earlier consoles, which is what lead to the first keys being leaked. Sony could always issue new hardware with new keys and a fixed security system at which point wed be completely locked out of that new hardware. Its entirely possible theyll do this (if they havent done so already), so much like the PSP were going to end up with a limited number of consoles that have hardware-based flaws that can be exploited. Of course we then found new ways of exploiting the PSP anyhow, and ultimately were able to exploit every PSP made in one way or another.
If you are on anything higher than 3.55 it doesnt mean you are out, there are ways to downgrade if your model is one thats able, otherwise you are just not able to do anything right now until more dev work is done. So sit tight and hold on. Again stay tuned, more info and news will be definitely coming.
KaKaRoTo Chat via PlayStationLifeStyles.net
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Disclaimer: KaKaRoTo was not involved in the current hack or CFW.
Seb: Id like to think that Ive been pretty open minded about hacking in previous interviews Ive held, but you have to wonder what The Three Musketeers were thinking when they shared the keys with other people. You cant trust anyone on the internet, and it was sadly naive to believe that one of the people they gave it to wouldnt try to sell it. Now, theyre probably worrying whether Sony is looking for them, preparing to sue them.
Im all for being able to do what you want with your own technology, you bought it, do what you want with it. But, just like when I buy a pen I shouldnt pour the ink all over my face, individuals need to be responsible for what they do with the tech. Hack it, crack it, turn it into a toaster, whatever but if letting people know what you did and how you did it could lead to piracy, then dont release it, dont share it.
Youness: There is no denying that there is a part of responsibility in what is being done by the hackers, but to be honest, you cant really predict what will happen in the future, and you cant be responsible for what others do. Dont forget that this release of the lv0 keys doesnt add such a huge advantage to the hacking community, but the keys were never meant to be released, because it was still somehow opening up potential piracy which is something the true hackers are absolutely against. The secret of the keys was well guarded, but somehow it got leaked (after many many months), and the reason for the release was to prevent some greedy company (dongle manufacturer) from profiting from the piracy it could have enabled. In the end, it happened, its unfortunate, but I wouldnt sweat (or rejoice) too much over it. The release wasnt about the fame or the being first, it was about countering an immoral act.
Dan: Even though there is much debate about what rights consumers have regarding what they are able to do with the products they purchase, the ability to do something does not always give a free pass to the action. As such with the release of the keys, the ability to break into a device you own is, in my opinion, very much your right, but the knowledge and ramifications of the information become that persons liability. As it would be for someone who owns a car and decides to modify it, if it became unsafe to be around, the responsibility would fall on its owner.
With all that said, the problems that fell on Sony in the wake of the eventual hacks are something that will be remembered forever. The cost to Sony, and their consumers, is not something that will likely ever be measured. So is there a point where the ability to do something does not outweigh the potential ramifications?
Youness: Well, of course, the ability to do something does not give you a free pass to do it. However doesnt that go both ways? The ability to remove Linux from the PS3 does not give Sony the right to do it, and in the end, when you look at the facts, thats what initiated the whole thing. There is always a need for a moral compass. Sometimes its about whether or not the benefits outweigh the negatives, but sometimes there are some undeniable rights that cannot be tossed out the window. As an example, you cant remove freedom of expression of the press if you think it might cause a civil war Yes, the benefits (freedom of expression) do not outweigh the negatives (potential death of a population), but it doesnt mean you can suddenly silence everyone and use that as an excuse. The car example that Dan gave is a good one, and sure, you can mod your car all you want, as long as you dont take it on the road from the moment it doesnt pass regulations.
What I am mostly angry about is when I see people playing the devils advocate thinking about the loss to Sony, loss from piracy, and loss from emulators and homebrew. I do want to see them complaining about all those things, as long as I see them also complain about the loss to the consumer. Loss of Linux support (which comes with loss of your data), loss of the right to class action sue, loss of hundreds of games legally bought online because your account was banned, loss of your game collection when your PS3 goes for repair and suddenly gets replaced by an inferior model that doesnt have backward compatibility, loss of money after being forced to buy the same game multiple times. Why isnt anyone complaining about those issues just as hard as they complain about piracy and homebrew. Both, in my eyes should be defended equally, dont you agree?
Seb: Look, Im all against Sony having removed Linux, and if we did DR back then we could have had you on and joined in on your complaints. But whats done is done, its bad, but two wrongs do not make a right. Just because Sony was a dick, doesnt mean we should all be dicks back. Previous PS3 hacks allowed people who had a PS3 that had Linux to revert back to older FW, they had the opportunity. This hack serves little purpose than to open the floodgates to more piracy.
Again, loss of an account or paying double for a game sucks, but its very rare. You talk about weighing up the positives and negatives, but thats an example of where a small amount of people will benefit from having their accounts back, but a huge amount of developers and publishers will suffer, and then, ultimately, gamers who end up getting less games.
I do complain about those issues, and perhaps I should more, but taking matters into your own hand, no matter the collateral, isnt the right way. In the end, nobody wins.
Youness: Well, some are trying to get back at Sony for what they did, and usually they dont get very far because when hate or corruption or whatever is your drive, then you simply wont succeed. But I agree with you, two wrongs dont make a right. Sometimes though I wonder, when you get 10 wrongs and you still dont do anything about it, how likely will there be a 11th wrong? I know you dont like it when that bad stuff happens and thats why I like PSLS, you do defend both sides. But Id like to correct one misconception you seem to have.. no, this new hack wont open any floodgates. It serves absolutely no purpose for anyone who wasnt already on a custom firmware, so it wont add any new users into the piracy world. As for your comment about no matter the collateral, dont worry, I can reassure you that thats not the case! This release is just one of many things that could be released, it happened to be leaked, but there are other hacks, information, exploits that could lead to piracy that simply get buried because of this collateral. Even these lv0 keys, as I said will have a very minimal impact (if any) on the piracy, but they were not released for the simple case of maybe, just maybe, it could help piracy, even though I cant think of any way for it to, so the hackers behind it prefered to stay on the safe side rather than be sorry later. Dont always assume that the hackers are always trying to hack everything for their own selfish reasons. Being a true hacker means you have skills, and skill comes with experience, and with experience comes the moral compass that we spoke about. As far as I know, all the piracy enabling hacks were dirty little hacks made by young and irresponsible teenagers who were looking for their 15 minutes of fame. It is unfortunate though that they used the legitimate work of others as a stepping stone.
How long has it been since there was any significant development in the PS3 hacking scene? Almost 2 years now! Its not because it became impossible, its simply because we have access to homebrew and Linux, so there is no need to hack it further (or release new hacks). Its not a fight about who will win, its a simple matter of are we happy about it. Another huge reason why the hacking scene has dried up is because of the piracy, not all hacking scenes are like this (think of the iPhone or Android hacking), but the PS3 (and generally Sony followers) scene is one of the worst in terms of self-entitled kids and piracy, and most of the hackers felt that it does not deserve their attention anymore. Tired of the drama and the whining and the piracy, most of us have decided to retire.
Dan: While none of this is to simply place the blame on anyone, or any single group. It is more the discussion about how to stand up for the things you believe, irregardless of what other might think. Although, as an online community that connects the world together in a way that generations could not have imagined. We must at some point realize. much like the ancient proverb from Uncle Ben goes: With great power, comes great responsibility. So regardless of what side of this gray line you fall, the simple fact that at the end of the day the consumer will always be hit the hardest. So when a corporation, or developer wrongs its user base, what lengths we go to defend our rights should always keep in mind the just how far your reach can really go in this modern era.
Where do you stand on the matter, should you be allowed to do what you want with your PS3, or should you be more socially responsible? Let us know in the comments below, follow Seb, Dan and Youness on Twitter, call us evil hackers on our email (email@example.com), and feel free to watch KaKaRoTos speech on the benefits of open source tech this Friday at Encuentro Linux in Chile.
Thanks to Youness Alaoui for taking part in this Daily Reaction special.
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Wololo Source: Wololo.net
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Thanks so much for posting this! I had an empty container of storebrand IS, and I had all the individual spices, but didn't know the proportions to mix and refill it. My attempt has generated a few tips: 1. grind just the coarser spices first; my food processor was just flipping the rosemary around and the finer stuff created a cloud of dust. 2. Wait a while before opening your machine until the dust settles. 3. If you have a coffee grinder (I remembered later that I have one set aside for spices,) that is a better machine to use.
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For the same reason I suppose that most if not all Muslims think that the child molesting paedophile, liar, thief, warmonger , anti semite and misogynist Mohammad was "the BEST of men" and a "man for ALL time" Does a God create you simply to punish you in Hellfire well PREDESTINATING evil, illogical, sadistic allah DOES.
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Because the vast majority of Muslims have perversity in their hearts as they seek hidden meanings in the clear verses of Quran. Are you aware of the verse 3:7?
And how do you know that? Any verses from Quran to support your invention?
Why every word in Quran has a symbolic meaning? What about your Allah's claim that Quran is clear and well explained? Even if, just for argument's sake, symbolic meanings are conceded, how do you know what is the real meaning? Does it not shame you when you go on inventing meaning after meaning for perfectly simple words like water and throne? Are you sure that Allah is not a symbolic word for Satan? If yes, why? Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
Re: Angels around the throne of Allah__________________
Do you know about argumentum ad populum? This amounts to that fallacy hence is not a logically sound argument. If there were Muslims who refused to believe Allah has physical features, there were many Muslims to come up with the notion Allah has physical features. And both had scriptures with them to argue. I am with the same lot (Ibn Taimiyya being one among them) who argued Allah has physical features as represented by Quran. What about refuting it?
And your reasons to argue so..? Any back up sources? I brought the hadith in which it says "believers will perceive Allah as they perceive full-moon. Since the perceivers are human beings, the perception must be within the limit of human beings. That being said, Allah should manifest in a form perceivable to human beings. Our perception does not have extension to grasp the unlimited. That is why it is said Allah will be manifested like a full-moon. Moreover, I can bring more hadiths to prove Allah has hands, eyes, feet etc.
Symbolic…! Anything in Quran that is unpleasant to Muslims amount to being symbolic.., you bore me up dear. What is symbolic in having rivers in paradise? What is symbolic in having these rivers gushing out of the throne of Allah? It is what Sahih Bukhari hadith tells us. I brought the hadith in my previous post. You mean all are symbolic? Well, then your Allah too is symbolic. There is nothing of that kind for you to believe in. Would this work for you?
Huh… your lack of compliance to check sources is not my big concern. It is mentioned in Tabari that Allah's throne is over waters. Moreover, there are many Sahih Hadiths to attest to this fact. I mean MANY. Check your sources well. Your ignorance is not an excuse and I am least bothered of it. Regards KhaliL
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Good to see you back, we need Muslims to debate. Your argument about the allegory of the angels near the throne might be valid, except that hawla ( حول ) used as a noun is something that surrounds the indicated object such as a fence, crowd or barrier. I.e. حول نهر النيل = (those things... boats, settlements etc.) "Along the Nile river". Or take the use of hawla in Koran:
Do you think the verse relates to towns near Makka and Madina? Not much to choose from. The obvious meaning is in the surrounding lands. Or take the examples of hawla Khalil gave. Angels are real if invisible beings according to Koran, for them to be stationed around a throne it too must be a physical thing, would you not say? -Aksel بدرود , بدرود , بدرود
Re: Angels around the throne of AllahWhat is this about Muslims? Are they so boxed in they cannot get out of the vice grip Christianity has on them they have to appeal to JESUS and Christians for an answer and help them solve Mystery of Islam.
Hello, this is the throne in HEAVEN, in the thereafter unlike the throne that is mentioned on this thread and in the Quran where you and Paedophile Modk can see. Besides that there is also the throne the SUN and Moon prostrate to each night they go to sleep before they dare peek out for the next morning? Where do Bozo Muslims in Saudi Arabia, in Malaysia, in Nigeria, in UK think these throne is at? Is it on the underside of the planet EARTH? Anyway .. the SUN and Moon will be busy prostrating non- stop before Bozo Allah because at any moment in time there is always sunset and sunrise. OK.. over to the idiots of Muslims, the same idiots who eat halal food, wrap themselves in rags, scream jihad, and cry like babies when Hamas babies get killed. Whatever for? Is it for the day Muslims sit on the throne themselves and give Allah crap?!!
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if you consider the theory that Allah (swt) is a physical body to best fit the evidence of the hadith and Quran then you are certainly entitled to that opinion. To imply that it's some standard of Quranic orthodoxy that all Muslims need to obey is going a little to far though wouldn't you say? As a non-Muslim what exactly qualifies you to determine this issue for Muslims ?
Generally something that is obvious is easy to see. That being the case the fact that majority of people ( a good deal of whom studied the text in depth) didn't notice this supposed reality would tend to imply that it wasn't really as obvious you imply. At most you could say " it was 'obvious' to a minority of Muslims".
He may very well have felt that way. He has no authority whatsoever within Shi'ite Islam however.
Mans perception does include the power to see spiritual forms when it is properly purified. Many of the Saints have had visions of Allah (swt). This does not imply that a physical body materialized in front of them. Technically I guess I can't rule the possibility that a physical body materialized in front of them but based on the descriptions it's obvious that this is not always the case when one has such a vision. . Of course they will say his throne was over the waters. Thats exactly what the Quran states. What is his "throne" though ? That's the question. Is it made of matter? That's merely an assumption on your part. Please point to the hadith that states " The throne is made out of atoms" or " the throne is a material item". Last edited by ishraqiyun on Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:19 am, edited 1 time in total.
"When they see affliction, there are few who adhere to their religion" Imam Hussein
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So it would be impossible to discuss a spiritual reality using a word like "hawla" ? "When they see affliction, there are few who adhere to their religion" Imam Hussein
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Hmmm Can you see a way that angels - real, tangible entities according to Koran - could be stationed around a non-physical object? بدرود , بدرود , بدرود
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I'm aware of 3:7. I was just reading an article that discussed this on al-Islam.org actually The discussion of this starts in the section: "The Two Kinds of Qur'anic Verses: The Explicit and the Implicit http://www.al-islam.org/quraninislam/2.htm "When they see affliction, there are few who adhere to their religion" Imam Hussein
Re: Angels around the throne of AllahMaybe the moon and sun had a look at those angels when they prostrate before the throne. Where did the sun and moon go every minute of its existence to prostrate before the throne? Will Muslims be fearful if they don't prostrate before this throne and miss their favourite rising moon and sun spot? What throne is refered here? Are the sun and moon imaginary too.
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Please forgive me but this discussion is really starting to frustrate me due to my inability to properly express myself. It seems that the people I'm discussing this with have a very exoteric understanding of religion and anything that doesn't coincide with that view is judged to be absurd or non-nonsensical. I hate to keep using the same analogy but it remind me of the person who reads a poem that states " his heart was a great ocean" and then commented on it by saying " The organ responsible for pumping blood was filled with a massive body of salt water". Then when anyone offers another meaning they ridicule them for rejecting the (supposedly) "plain" meaning. I understand if you are not interested in studying Islamic "mysticism" , Irfan, Sufism, etc but even if you studied the basics of say Christian esoteric exegesis then maybe you would be able to understand what I am (apparently) unsuccessfully trying to explain. Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq (pbuh) a person endowed with the absolute authority to teach the esoteric meaning of the Quran revealed that : " The Book of Allah is of four natures: al-'ibarah, that is to say, the text, that is for the common people; al-Ishara, i.e. allusions that are for the select (khawass) al-lata'if, that is fine mysteries that are for the friends of God (awliya); and finally, al-haqa'iq, the truth which is for the Prophets (anbi'ya)." As a Shi'te this is my understanding of the Quran. I believe this is perfectly inline with what is revealed regarding the understanding of the Quran: "Verily, this is indeed a Nobel Quran , in a Book kept hidden, which none touches except the purified"." This is view isn't limited to Shi'ites however . Even such an impeccable authority within Sunni Islam like Al-Ghazzali recognizes this reality:
"When they see affliction, there are few who adhere to their religion" Imam Hussein
Re: Angels around the throne of AllahEsoteric -- sh!t. Might as well put what's left of that Muslim brain to good use and to use the same principle to explain the trinity.
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The trinity as held to by the Catholics, Orthodox , and most Protestants would be "explained" as follows That the Father, Son , and Holy Spirit are of one ousia . God is three hypostases or "persons" but one in essence. It's summed up pretty succinctly int he Nicene Creed:
"When they see affliction, there are few who adhere to their religion" Imam Hussein
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So it lists the "literal" and the "allegorical" verses does it. I don't think so it will just suggest that there are two kinds of verse and maybe point out some of those truly idiotic verses as being "allegorical" and some innocuous and uncontroversial verses as "literal" then think they have done the job and fooled everyone. But Mohammedans are never going to let go of that "get out of jail" card by actually listing all the verses catagorised either way because that and the primitive ambiguous Arabic dialect in which the Krap Kran is written are their only hiding places when the Krap Kran is made to look stupid ( which is very often). Does a God create you simply to punish you in Hellfire well PREDESTINATING evil, illogical, sadistic allah DOES.
Re: Angels around the throne of AllahIshraqiyun,
Thanks a lot for finally responding to me. You have been avoiding my posts for so long; I thought you would never do it. Are you Islamic_Science by the way? you have not responded to the following part of my post.
Regarding 3:7, frankly I did not go through that long article. I have been sent on a wild goose chase many a times previously by Muslims, so I proceed with care. My point is very simple. The verse 3:7 says that there are two types of verses in Quran: clear and allegorical. It says that the meanings of allegorical verses is known only to Allah and only the perverse people look for their meanings. So my questions are, 1. How do you know that throne and water are not literal? 2. If they are allegories, do you not think you are perverse in the eyes of Allah in the light of 3:7, as you are trying to impart some hidden meanings to these words which are known only to Allah? I know this is a great conundrum for Muslims, but let us see how you wriggle out of this. Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
Re: Angels around the throne of AllahLets take a look at it with the Tafsir at-Tabari
Just because the throne is not to be understood as implying a physical object composed of atoms DOES NOT imply that the meaning of it is "unclear" (to those of a purified heart) or that it is known only to God. I don't believe this verse you quoted was intended to imply that people have no spiritual perception whatsoever or that they can not be illuminated by Allah (swt) as to the meaning of many of the verses discussing the spiritual world. It should also be noted that some Shi'ite scholars consider the "unclear" to be limited to the letters at the beginning of the chapters. They note that some Jews were trying to divine the length of time that Islam would endure based on their understanding of the secret message of the letters. At the same time Shi'ite scholars (in general) recognize that many Quranic verses have inner meanings that are clear to the pure of heart. So while some verses my be unclear and hidden even to those of a pure heart not all the inner meanings , analogies, similes, expressions of visionary realities, etc are unclear to them. Some Shi'ite scholars also say that the proper way to translate it is not to say " but none knows its hidden meaning save Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say …" But it should rather be understood in this manner " none know it's hidden meaning save Allah and those who are firmly grounded in knowledge . (with the period after knowledge rather then "Allah " ). The say that those firmly grounded in knowledge are the Imams and Prophets. Not everyone agrees with this however. Some on both sides of the fence on this issue agree that gramatically at least it could be read either way. I should also note that I never said that WAS the proper understanding of it. I merely said "it COULD mean" and then gave an example to illuminate the other possibliies that your statement ignored. I was showing that the view of his throne being composed of matter / physical atoms/ etc was merely one way of understanding it. If this is one of the verses known "only to Allah" then you obviously don't know the meaning of it either so how can you use it to debunk the Quran? "When they see affliction, there are few who adhere to their religion" Imam Hussein
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YOU have yet to tell us how YOU know what is "literal" and what is "allegorical" you can't just keep throwing these things out without telling us where you get your information from on which is which. And obviously mere men cannot presume to tell allah what he means so allah MUST have a secret list somewhere which Mohammedans know but you are not telling us about right? Does a God create you simply to punish you in Hellfire well PREDESTINATING evil, illogical, sadistic allah DOES.
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We have already proved using quran and the hadiths that the throne is literal and not spiritual.You keep ignoring that. WE are not considering your hidden spiritual meanings because there exists proof from quran as well as the hadiths of the throne being a physical entity. Its not always necessary that everything has a spiritual meaning. You couldnt explain why throne being over the water issue properly . How does water being symbolic make sense in the context of the verse ? You quoted one example of our heart being an ocean of emotions. The context of your quote/example allows us a possible spiritual meaning but we cant derive any spiritual meaning in the context of the quranic verse because It doesnt make sense. Further i asked you how can angels move around the throne? You said our eye of heart will see them. Dont you think you are spewing bull sh!t? Let me show how your logic is faulty. Using your logic i can prove quran is a lie . When Allah says the believers would see the fire of the hell on the judgement day are we supposed to understand it means our eye of the heart will see the fire and there is no actual fire?? IF YES then it would judgment day is a lie and there is no hell and heaven thereby contradicting the other parts of the quran. Please tell me why shouldnt i interpret the way you did in this case? Quran also says that angels will uphold the throne of Allah. Now tell us how can a spiritual entity be uphold by angels? Look around yourself and you'll find people with virtues are never required to demand respect since they automatically earn it. It is only those that are devoid of any virtues need to threaten and bully to gain respect. Needless to say that quran cannot be from God.
Re: Angels around the throne of AllahEverything in the koran is literally true until it is questioned, then it becomes allegorical/metaphorical, and the same is also true for all the religious scriptures
Muslims are so secure in their faith that they need to kill those who don't share it.
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Let us not talk about the purity of heart. Muhammad, for example, is considered to be a very good man by Muslims(pure of heart in other words). We, on the other hand, see him as a person with most impure heart possible. Obviously, purity of heart means different things to us. However, my question still stands, "How do you know that throne is not to be understood as throne"? If it is not to be understood as throne, it could mean anything. And that would make its meaning obscure, and the verse allegorical. I do not think I need to explain the meaning of "allegorical" to you.
It does not matter at all what "some" Shi'ite scholars consider unclear to be limited to. Obviously there would be a great deal of difference of opinions among the Muslim scholars. What I am stressing is much more fundamental. What you are talking about is subjective perception which varies from man to man and there is no way to know which subjective perception is correct. That is why there are so many sects in Islam and each sect considers itself to be following the purest form, and calls others heretics. The moment you start talking about something subjective, the Quran does not remain a clear book of guidance and this flouts the claims of Allah in Quran about its clarity.
And this only substantiates my contention that Quran is, in fact, an ambiguous book which cannot be a book of guidance because of its ambiguity. It also flouts the clarity claim of Allah.
You should also note that COULD MEAN actually means nothing. It is ridiculous to deny the most obvious meaning of a word and then claim that it could mean this or that. If I deny that my "keyboard" means "keyboard", then it could mean anything, even Quran . Your contention is simply ridiculous. Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
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San Francisco, Chronicle Books, May 2012, hardcover $40.00 (160 pages).
Yes, it's another studio-authorized coffee-table art book about the making of a theatrical animated feature: Pixar's Brave, to be released on June 22.
To quote from the publisher's press release, "Brave is Pixar's thirteenth feature film, but it marks two big firsts for the award-winning animation studio. It's Pixar's first feature film driven by a female lead and its first set in an ancient historical period." This book is written by Jenny Lerew, an animation director and story artist for Warner Bros, Amblimation, Turner, Disney, and DreamWorks Animation; most recently for DreamWorks' How to Train Your Dragon. The Preface is by John Lasseter, the chief creative officer of Pixar and of Disney, and the Foreword is by Brenda Chapman and Mark Andrews, two of Brave's three co-Directors.
Yet if this is another studio-authorized coffee-table art book about the making of a theatrical animated feature, it differs noticeably from the books about The Incredibles, Kung Fu Panda, Madagascar, Puss in Boots, Rango, Ratatouille, and so on. This is because Brave, the motion picture, differs so much from those others.
For one thing, this is about the art of Brave. There is more emphasis on the character designs, the background paintings, storyboards, the visual effects, etc., as the artistic creations of their artists rather than as the components of a feature film. For another, it is about the setting: primordial Scotland. More than the other movies, Brave focuses upon its locale. Art related to the story and the characters hardly comes into the book before page 63; the earlier pages are devoted to landscapes of the Scottish highlands, environmental concept drawings, cloud and snow patterns, Celtic graphics for clothing and carvings, and so on. There are more photographs than in other animation-art books of ancient Standing Stones, the lichen on a tree branch and the thick moss on stone walls, weathered castle walls, the artists in the highlands standing in moss up past their ankles, to show how accurate the artistic creations are.
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Greg diPiazza
Greg diPiazza defines success on his own tuneful terms
by Jessica Armstrong
write the author
December 25, 2008
It bothers me that
Greg diPiazza
isn't famous. It could be that I'm a hopeless optimist, or perhaps I'm living just this side of naivety. Maybe I've been duped.
I'm talking about the good, old American dream. You know, those romantic nuggets of wisdom that suggest that if you work hard enough you can achieve anything? Do what you love and the money will follow? You can be anything you want to be?
DiPiazza has been living his dream for a long time. His bio reads like a who's who of the music industry: h's worked with the Red Hot Chili Peppers, opened for the Grateful Dead and Willy Nelson, recorded and performed with Steve Ferrone from Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. He was hand-picked to record songs and tour with Cassandra Denver, wife of the legendary John Denver. It isn't lack of talent or drive that has left him less than famous.
Nor is it lack of effort. In his Orange County days, diPiazza formed several bands that played high-profile gigs around LA and wrote multiple songs that got airplay on the local rock radio stations. He's been up to pretty much the same thing for about 20 years on Maui, too. Over the years he's formed local bands Volcano Jones and Twisted Fisherman with some of Maui's elite musical talent, and written and recorded multiple CDs.
For his new project, Maui Underground, diPiazza has written music for two albums, which he performs with jazz saxophonist Paul Bunuan and flamenco percussionist Indio. The music on
Maui Underground 2008
varies a lot; some of the songs are funky Latin dance tunes and others have a smooth, bluesy jazz sound and disarmingly emotional lyrics. On every track, diPiazza's experience and attention to detail, along with his skilled composition and mastery of his instruments—the guitar, keyboard and vocals—shine with the brilliance of a man who has followed his passion with unwavering resolve.
I met up with him to debunk some of my idealistic assumptions about fame, success and the pursuit of a music career, and to talk about his latest album.
You've been writing and recording music for a while. Do you ever get tired of it?
I've been addicted to music for a long time. It's something that builds up in me—it builds up in your system and it eventually has to be released. In some sense, it's frustrating. It's not an easy road to support yourself as a musician on Maui and I donrecommend it.
Isn't it even more frustrating to never really "make it big" in the industry? Didn't you want to be famous?
Sure, I wanted to be famous. It's funny—I've played with world class musicians and everybody that plays with me seems to get signed to a record deal. But that's not the only reason I make music anymore. I've been tested a lot in my life, but I think my day will come eventually.
It seems like it would be really hard to build a serious music career on Maui. What made you relocate out here?
That's not necessarily so. There are a lot of amazing musicians on Maui; take Vince Esquire for example. The guys I work with now are so incredibly professional. They're the only one's I play with now. I've personally been "discovered" three times on Maui. I'm happy on Maui and I don't want to be on the road anymore. I tried to leave and live in a mansion in Malibu; it didn't work for me. There's a healing energy here.
OK, so you've never gotten that "big break," but you're still happy as a clam. As a working musician, how do you measure success?
Success is measured by how you feel every day. If you wake up and you're happy then, yes, you're successful. I'm happier than I've ever been.
Right, so it's just me over here being all worried about trivial things like fame and fortune. I get it. Back to the music. What can people expect from you?
If you listen to my music you'll see it's pretty mainstream. You could hear it on the radio right now. My sound adapts a lot and I write from a rhythm.
What were your inspirations for the latest album?
It's funky. I mean, it's really, really funky, like G. Love and Special Sauce. Some of my biggest influences are G. Love and Ben Harper, but it's more like stuff you can dance to. We sound just like that live, too.
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Art and Rent
December 25, 2008 | 07:57 PM
I haven't heard this musician's music (and that may make a case for wider distribution or what not). However, I'm also not sure that "making it big" and honestly inspired art need to be put through the same paradigmatic blender. In fact, I might posit - "hey guy, ain't it great that ya ain't famous so you don't end up putting out the same Van Halen record again and again?"
'Course living on Maui presents a whole other bag of..concerns.
don't miss greg
December 26, 2008 | 03:46 AM
Greg D. is a great performer. Don't miss his gigs, I saw him at Henrys in Kihei last week
steve wright
G-Reg of Maui Underground is my hero. . . .
December 26, 2008 | 09:07 PM
I played music with G here on the mainland throughout the eighties. We spent most of our twenties in the recording studio. I always felt, and still do feel that G has an amazing talent for the creating of music.
Wade Wilkinson, Owner/Engineer Mambo Sound and R
Almost famous
December 29, 2008 | 12:18 PM
Nice job Jessica Armstrong now this was worth reading becuz I haven't had the chance to go watch him play and I do know saxophonist Paul Bunuan and his awesome.
As for "Almost Famous" on Maui it's hard to make it "BIG" but every musician his a different measurement of success and on many levels making it "BIG" isn't always the most important thing in life. Music=Life now that's important!
Ipo Kahele
Almost Famous
January 05, 2009 | 06:08 AM
Greg is so unique and edgy. Indio, amazing talent. Paul Bunuan, the BEST SAX PLAYER EVER!!! All of these gentlemen deserve their big break! THEY ARE WORTH IT!!!!!!
Kymberly Marr
I can vouch to Greg Dipiazza's talents
July 14, 2009 | 09:58 PM
I was fortunate enough to be Greg's drummer during the Corvairs (Orange Co., CA) days. Even then it was obvious Greg was light-years ahead of any local songwriters. I was bemused then as I am today as to why America has not awakened to Greg's talent.
John Mace
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