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gg^SE^ ggHOSXAt» kl^ABT S«:SS^XCSEO. •if4l!K*;fr.^v; FQLliOW THE L E A D E R FOR RBtlABtE ADVERTISING " N A S S A U ' S LARGEST WEEKLY" BALDWIN FOLLOW THE L E A D E R FOR ALL LOCAL NEWS ROOSEVELT MERRICK 2«th Year, No. 30 PREEPORT, N.*Y., THURgDAY, NOVEMBER 9. 1961 •• PRICE f W E CENTS P I B COPY Wnai To Present it iss Me Kate n Thanks to Public The Couunittee of the Womeri's Division of the Preeport Hepubiican Club wishes to express their appreciation and sincere thanks to the merchanta, club members and their many friends who contributed so much in every way to the success of the Annasl Card Party and Bally which was held at the Freeport Elics OJub Nov. 3. Mort Meyerson, as "Petruehlo," makes » play (or Tabby Schlelfer, as "Kate," as the playnakers rehearBe for "Kiss Me Kate," the Cole Porter Musical, to be presented by Justice -Lodge & Chapter, B'nai B'rith on Sat. Nov, 18 and Sat. Dee. Z in the Baldtrin lUerh School Auditorium. By MRS. RAYMOND STRAUSS Justice Lodge & Chapter, B'nai B'rlth will present "Kiss Me Kate" on Sat. Nov. 18 and Sat. Det;. 2, at the Baldwin Senior High School at 8:30 pjn. ' A wonderful group of singers, dancers, and actors will display their many fine .talents, through an exciting, eye-ravishing rendition of the Cole Porter iiilislcal, "Kiss Me Kate." Leading the cas* wllJ be Toi*y Sohlelfer, who possesses an extensive iprofcisslonal toackground on t>he musical stage. The niale lead Is being taken \is Mart lies^ersoo,. who was , "Ourly" ta l a ^ • year's "OMahoBM.*' m e supporWag cast Is worthy of all-star mtlngs. Oece Shehar, Phil Golden, Arnold Seajwart?,. and Julie Leavy have had leading roles in prior shows. Artie Ginsberg. Seymour saemp-oer, Jtajuiy. Hexidon aiid.Ba,ve Ka-mlnsky ateo Have successful past perforinancoi to, tioelr credit. fContlnued on Pia^e 2) SALES DAY TO LAUNCH ill&BASSA0OR FRCMKt Freeport Druggists Offer Public Free Tests for Diabetes George Bemihaxd, Pres. of the Kassau-Suffolli Pharttiaceutlcal Society, has anmnged for all Drug Stores of Preeport, or sunwundlng contmnnittes, to conduct free test^ for I>l{dSeties. | . Bring' yow- urtoft specimen to. anji oonyenient, <»ntoiner, to ybvis Freeport Hospital Plans Complete Reorganization A complete reorganlaiatlon of its professional staff was recently announced by Preeport Hospital, which for 28 years has served communities and villages on the South Shore of Ijong Island. During 1960, Preeport HospltlU admitted 3,000 patients, and rendered service for 15,000 patient days. ms" '<ui You Can Dig The Dippers At Jones Beach Sunday The Big and little iSippers and 3 other constellaMons will be the stellar attractions at the star gajdng session a^t Jones Beach on Sunday, Nov. 12. These twlce^monthly sessions be-- gln at 7 p.ni. a t Field No. 1 and are free to the public. Preiport Merchants to Contribute T:ioi|9P P!:oj^t from NOK 20 Salli ^ The iBB2 Ctennwinltar AmbasBttdor Project at the FreeparT Ctommimlty CouaeU, In coopeiratloawlth Preeport High School, .wUl-IJ* oWlcIaUy Inimched onfa%n;,.Ntfv. .^.rtty » vUtege-wide "Ainbasawiior Sal«s Dtty, Thiis was. 'apiouoccd* by Projecfr: Chairman. Mi*. Howard -M«cEWtigaU and &e BetaUDJvtsitixi <>f the Freeport Chsmtter of Commerce. ••"''• "• SAJ^dB F p o i K J T of U*e Ereeport C6qinninl% Omipdl, in. cooperation .w|ti)f :%eepart ffigb Scix^^^ be pfflciaily:. JaiuichHl on Mon., Nov. ;20;;i l^r-: al-iiitoge-irfds.; Ambaj^ . Sales .J>a,y.- ItUs 'WBA. raiuunuiced, by ':JPro-iN?t.;;..0ialnnan+-»:Mra. •.HkwraKl #icDoi«faE Biidihe Iuiw>..Diwlslon Heaf Tuberculin Teste Given To BHS Students NJnetJ-one p«rceMfc. of Baldwin ar. High school students toolt the Beaf Tuberculbt Test at t&e school Pri., dbt.2T, school nurse Mfs. Hen-ijfissy announced. Of-these, only 21 students ...isihowed a positive reac-tdon when teste ware-checked in* ft feaotsr-wp, Tues., Oct.. 31. of l*e Preeport ChBinber of Commerce. .ttetail stores parttcSpatinsito. fehe prognun wfl donate 10% of sales for this day to ttJelOtomniunity Aani bassador.Project wihMiJa4882-will, send a Freeport High S<aw»l stu- • (CootliMied a& PajK-T) • Wnmem At Elks Bazaar '- -Hai^/BertBoiniez, Sidney Midtaels. Adidlo jP^npas,. James CSaserl. and yj. .,^iS^ jrere wtanen of the .attfp^l»te.'.aW»dM_>y/tihe. ftoe- P&t;;.Jt^^(S>'of;,Klcs rt •tfee'.CHolflen PRtJ0 STORE NQTieB '• -'Beriiliaiidt's Pbarmaey. 54 W. Bler- \irfa&'.iUl4.'<|pNN^iiOTt,;.wni 'vetii^ii. open tote,TniiUI U)'pJiit,.;:Siind»y. Nov.-'^l^. : ^ i 'aUt«''..ArapiBlbi«s/wiio,' are' maai- :iier$ of'-tbtf. I1reejioTt'niiMia«y.As> sociatlon elose » t > pja. aa UwaMT-Bemhazd's. Mepiione is FB S-OMBi Kenneth B. Vought. Chairman, announced the 1961 Vuterans Day pr<«ram of the Wiillara Clinton Story Post.No. 342 American l«gton, which will start at 11 a.m. at the Miuilclpal Building. Taps by Preeport Masque & Wig Club Of FHS to Present "My Three Angels" The Masque and Wig Club o( Preeport High School will present BJieir annual production, "My Three Angels", at the hlgli school auditorium on Prl., Nov. 10, and Sat., Nov. 11, at 8:30 p.m. Harold Holzman, Ohris Kent, Anita Saltz, Nina Mazey, Sue Harrison, Cajolyn Wicintyre, Pred Ter-ranova,, and a tialented supporting oast ptTjmise an Wlarl'ous performance of the Broadway hit by Samuel and Bella Spewack, "My Three Angels". The 3 angels of the title' are 2 lamcdtsrere ijusd • a n • 'cmtesaeler 'In Prentdi- firuinnat wCio, usingr their praf^sslona.1 skills, become Christmas dib-gooders to bring a troubled family happiness. It's wonderful entertalninent. High School Buglers. J. Maynard Wettlaufer, Director, Posting of Colors by C(A>r Guard of William Clinton Story Post No. 342. National Anthem. Invocation by <!^ptain William North of the Salvation Army. Introductions. Selections by: Boys and Qlrls Chorus of the Bayvlew Avenue School. Director: Mrs. Margaret Belmont, Supervisor of Mementary School Vocal Music. Address by: Dr. John Henry Martin, Superintendent of the Preeport Public Schools. Selection by Boys and Girls Chorus, BenedteUon by. Captain WlUlam Korfh. The;,toUowlng organteatSooS:. will;. jjirtloipateT'";'"' -'—---> • >-^'...,.i Daughters ot the American. Bevo-luUon-^ Buth rtoyd Woodhull Chapter, MJ'S. Helen Strang, Begent. American Red Cross, Mrs. Gordon (Continued on Page 12) TOP COUHTY SPOT Dems Upset County Executive Race; But GOP Candidates Win Freeport Eugene H. Ntckerson. Democratic candidate, upset political forecasters by beating Robert Dill, Republican candidate, for the position of Nassau County SSteoutlve. However, based on, unofficial reports flow available, the Republicans took all other County and Town positions on the ballot. Last minute unofficial reports also rcr vealed that Freeport backed every Re-publioan candidate Including MC{ bill, •Following are final but not confirmed results of the election Votes In Wreepbrt lli some of the major races: ! EDCHENE H. NICKGB80N County Exeisitlve: Bobert Dill (It) Nlckeison (D) Pres. Super. Town ot Hemp.: PaiTlngton (B) Leonard (D) Super. Town of Hemp.; ..CSaso; <R) Hart <D! Sheriff; Combs. (R) P^loe (D) CoroptroUer: : Bedell CR) Suoed (D) County Clerit: Anderson (B) ,Tuc6l <IM .Town Hwf.'Supt: .. Haff (B) Schftltzer <m - •• / 6343 gl20 mm 45'?6 8910 4584 mm 4363 88T3 4i50S etas mn mm 4429 District Atty.: lievl&e (ft) Higgins (D) Pres. Ju4ire: Lynde (B> Buratein (D> Councllmen: Easa" <E)'.. • ; Benolt m) Loacman <B> Portela (D) Schecht^ (D), Haves CD) "" Town Clerk: Bennett (B) Hlmelfarb (O) Tax Beoclver': .••fonvain.CBK ' Cuff (D) 428S .4999 \(B5OT . em ma m i .6691 Unofficial reports also' ^ o w :that Judpe Paul. WMlltz and-aU other S t # e n i e ' d o i t t t Republican'ean^^ dates carried FreepcHTt majorities, •3-
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Westlake's Edgar Solis fired a shot to the left post and past the goalkeeper with less than four minutes remaining to help the Wildcats avoid overtime and drop Fox Lane to 0-1 in the league and 1-3 overall.
Fox Lane coach J.R. Pouncey, now in his fourth year as varsity head coach for the Foxes, actually missed most of the deciding sequence.
"I missed a lot of it because I was actually trying to get the refs' attention. I thought they had a foul there," Pouncey said. "So I actually missed most of the play."
Pouncey said a Westlake player was bound to score sooner or later, and he made no excuses for his team.
"We had it coming. They were attacking us wave after wave for an entire game," Pouncey said. "So we were fortunate to only give up two goals."
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Posted: Mon Mar 9th, 2009 12:44 am |
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slowtrot Member
[size="Master of War] [size=The Life of ] [size=General George H. Thomas][size="] [size=By] [size=Benson Bobrick] [size= ] [size= ] [size="Time and History will do me justice," said Major General George H. Thomas to his biographer Thomas Budd van Horne!] [size= ] [size=Well maybe the time is here! ]The History has always been there, but very few were reading it. [size= ] [size=Most of those writing about Thomas and the Civil War had a stake in maintaining the slander created by Sherman and picked-up by Grant that Thomas was "slow." ]Most sought to perpetuate the myth that Grant and Sherman were the greatest generals of the war. A myth easily disproven. Why would they lie about "History?" Easy – to sell books. The profit motive is very strong in liberal academia and it supplements their salaries. [size= ] [size=Since Thomas Budd van Horne's "Life of Major General George H. Thomas" the first biography of Thomas written in 1882, to the first 20th Century effort, "Education in Violence" by Francis F. McKinney, in 1961, several books have been written about Thomas. ]Of these McKinney's still stands as that which others are measured. In 1997 Thomas Buell wrote "The Warrior Generals - Combat Leadership in the Civil War." In it he presented a case for several Civil War Generals. One of which was George H. Thomas. It was the first time a compelling case was made for the elevation of Thomas' Generalship over Grant's by a major author. Now, in the space of five years two books on Thomas have appeared and a third will be out in the summer of 2009. Yes, the "Time" may be here! [size= ] [size=Well, I received my copy of Benson Bobrick's "Master of War - Life of George H. Thomas" and have finished it.] [size= ] [size=The book is a healthy respite from the current pseudo historical writings that, for the most part, curiously seek to devalue and demean General Thomas' contributions to the Union civil war effort. ]You can find more detailed descriptions of some of those efforts on Robert Meiser's "General George H. Thomas" Web Site. [size= ] [size=Mr. Bobrick writes in an engaging, straightforward style making for easy reading. ]He has so far "not" commented on whether General Thomas made any military errors as authors of the last two books on Thomas did. Mr. Bobrick, in fact, is sympathetic to Thomas! I always thought it interesting how writers having no military experience (the first a Reverend and the other a schoolteacher), felt capable of criticizing the deployments, tactics, strategies and actions (and in the case of the holy man, Generals Thomas' physiognomy), of a man trained and fighting in the 19th Century. Although tactics and strategies may apply throughout the centuries (in the 1st Gulf war Schwarzkopf used Thomas Nashville tactics in reverse), criticizing troop deployment has to be dependent on knowledge of conditions andcircumstances of the moment. It also has to be cognizant of what is happening at that moment influencing the commander's actions. To imply a commander is mistaken because he deploys his units in a particular fashion, without knowing what he is seeing or has seen, is unsustainable criticism. The critic can only know what has been told him or written by the commander, military reports (O.R.'s), who may or may not supply all the facts or a correspondent, or historian who may or may not know the whole story. We see plenty of that in histories written by authors with a viewpoint (e.g. Sherman's and Grant's "Memoirs"). A guesstimate may be offered and should include the conditions known to the one making the criticism whose guess it is! [size= ] [size=However, while Mr. Bobrick goes over much material known to Thomas scholars, he intersperses new items I have never seen. ]Original material! He also brings into focus many of the slanders perpetrated by Sherman and Grant. [size= ] [size=He blows Sherman's story that he nominated Thomas to Robert Anderson as a Brigadier to go west and build an army. ]The truth being that Lincoln asked Anderson about Thomas and he without equivocation vouched for Thomas' loyalty. Sherman in writing this fabrication in his "Memoirs" also told Anderson added "Thomas was slow." [size= ] [size=He goes through several lies perpetrated by the two officers and gentlemen and explains the untruthfulness of them all. ]In my first go though, he seems to have missed Halleck's contributions to the slander scheme. [size= ] [size=Bobrick points out that after the charge up Missionary Ridge Thomas mixed with his troops and congratulated them. ]To one regiment he remarked "that the men had made a fine race up the hill, and one of the soldiers, who had felt the want of food for weeks, cried out, "Yes, general, you have been training us for this race for several weeks." At that moment, looking around, he observed a steamboat puffing and snorting up the river, and he replied, "That is so; but there comes full rations, and in future the Army of the Cumberland shall have full rations." [size=[1]][size= ] [size= ] [size=Combine this with the fact that Thomas had his Corps and Divisional commanders in for meetings to discuss their orders from Grant. ]Plans to charge up the hill were designed and discussed. With the meetings and discussions and the comment by the trooper, and Thomas' response, I do not understand why there is any discussion as to their origin. They were planned and the troops were following orders! This is another case of authors failing to do their research. Or, as historian, Martin van Creveld, claims ". . . Much of what we are given to believe is based on . . .a sad testimonial to the readiness of many historians to copy each other's words without giving the slightest thought to the evidence on which they are based" Obviously, Thomas prepared his men for the final charge up Missionary Ridge to Sherman's right as directed by Grant. Of the eleven brigade commanders engaged in the assault only one stated positively that he was to halt at the foot of the Ridge and await orders. Two seemed to feel that to continue the advance or to halt was optional. Four stated that their commands were under orders from the division commander to continue to the crest of the Ridge. The remaining four considered the top of the Ridge to be their objective.[size=[2]][size=] [size= ] [size=This was Thomas' appointed task in all save Grant's last plan given orally two hours before the attack.] [size= ] [size=In my opinion, based on the information above, the men were following orders. ]They were inspired by their commanders careful planning not the divinity. [size= ] [size=Soon after this heroic demonstration by Thomas' men, Sherman and Grant began their campaign of slander.] [size= ] [size=While Bobrick skillfully demolishes the slanders against Thomas, he also lays out the case for a re-appraisal of the Confederate General Joseph Eggleston Johnston. ]As with his appraisal of Thomas, I agree with his statements about Johnston. "The second best Rebel general." Johnston has been unjustly maligned almost as much as Thomas has. [size= ] [size=Mr. Bobrick starts on page 355 a discussion of the characters of Sherman and Grant that deserves careful reading. ]He demolishes a number of rumors, fictions and outright balderdash created by our alleged historians. Good book Mr. Bobrick, keep them coming. There's lots more to clarify. [size= ] [size=I hope that Mr. Bobrick will follow up this fine effort with additional endeavors. ]It'll take more than one book to refute a century and a half of repeated falsehoods and poor research. [2] McKinney, "Education in Violence", p 295 |
Posted: Mon Mar 9th, 2009 12:52 am |
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The Iron Duke Member
I don't understand why Thomas partisans always feel it's necessary to bring down Grant and Sherman in order to raise up their own man. They are doing the same things that they accuse Grant and Sherman of doing. ____________________ "Cleburne is here!" meant that all was well. -Daniel Harvey Hill |
Posted: Sun Mar 15th, 2009 06:19 pm |
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slowtrot Member
Well putting down Grant and Sherman is so easy. Thomas never got blotto! Never had to resign from the service for alchoholism! Never was nuttsy! Never blamed others for his mistakes! Admitted his mistakes! Never slandered a comrade in arms! Never lost a battle he commanded and never lost a fight he was involved in! Never dodged a fight! Never fought his commands without concerns for his men's life! Never had any political handlers or political help! Understood that the object of war is to destroy the enemies means to fight, which Sherman never did! Slowtrot Last edited on Wed Apr 15th, 2009 02:31 pm by slowtrot |
Posted: Mon Mar 16th, 2009 04:43 pm |
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HankC Member
Thomas never overused exclamation marks HankC |
Posted: Mon Mar 16th, 2009 10:59 pm |
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Captain Crow Proud Southerner
Chickamauga?........ |
Posted: Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 08:00 pm |
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slowtrot Member
"There is nothing in History as magnifcent as Thomas at Chickamauga!" B/Gen. Henry Cist Thomas, with 25,000 (less than half the Army of the Cumberland) troops who gathered around him at Horseshoe Ridge held off the Army of Tennessee from about 1:00PM till dusk, until he could withdraw. Until then, he fought off Longstreet, who claimed he made 25 attacks against the Union lines. His troops fought almost continuously and were running out of ammunition when he gave the orders to withdraw. He pulled out under orders from Rosecrans and marched to Rossville where he posted his weary army to guard against Confederate attacks. None came and he made camp and he and his Army slept. Thomas had not slept since he pulled XIV Corps out of McLemore's Cove and joined the rest of the AOTC. Garfield, who joined him while Lonstreet was attacking, claimed Thomas was "standing like a rock" Thus the name "The Rock of Chickamuga." If you mean to imply that "Thomas" was defeated at Chickamauga you are wrong. Thomas was subordinate to Rosecrans, who as CO is responsible for the loss. If your criteria is applied, then Thomas won the battle of Chattanooga. Only his forces fought the battle. Sherman had given up. Don |
Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 11:32 pm |
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buzzard Member
Slowtrot wrote about Thomas: "Understood that the object of war is to destroy the enemies means to fight, which Sherman never did." This is like saying Michael Phelps doesn't know how to swim. The entire campaign for Atlanta, and the follow up march to the sea and through the Carolina's are a testament to depriving the CSA the means to fight. ____________________ "the way to whip an enemy is to get 'em skeered, and then keep the skeer on 'em" |
Posted: Sat Apr 4th, 2009 02:54 pm |
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slowtrot Member
Buzzard said: "Slowtrot wrote about Thomas: "Understood that the object of war is to destroy the enemies means to fight, which Sherman never did." This is like saying Michael Phelps doesn't know how to swim. The entire campaign for Atlanta, and the follow up march to the sea and through the Carolina's are a testament to depriving the CSA the means to fight." ___________________________________________________ The "Atlanta Campaign" as laid down to Sherman by Grant was to ". . . move against Johnston's army, to break it up and to get into the interior of the enemy's country as far as you can, inflicting all the damage you can against their war resources." Sherman did neither. He screwed up a good plan by Thomas, which could have ended the campaign two weeks after it started. Johnston fought him to a draw at Resaca and withdrew without Sherman knowing what had happened. He could have trapped Johnston in Resaca by blowing up the bridges over the Oostanaula with Logan's artillery. He got jealous of Grant's butchery in Va. and, thought he'd try it at Kennesaw, and failed. He failed to destroy the Army of Tennessee at Jonesborough and within two weeks, Hood was moving back to Dalton to fight again. Sherman chased him around for a month and then decided he couldn't catch him and detached Thomas to do the job. Some warrior, admitting defeat w/o even trying. His march to the sea almost lost the war in the west. His orders from Grant were to leave Thomas an adequate force to fight Hood. He didn't! He took two of Thomas Corps, the XIV and the XX (which he had disparaged earlier in a letter to Grant) on his trip south and left Thomas the wounded, weak and new troops. He took all the best equipment and wagons and left Thomas the damaged. He left Thomas 7,000+ cavalry - - - - without horses. His march was without event. His opponents were children and old men. The Rebels had already drafted those fit and able to fight. Wheeler showed up occasionally with a couple companies of cavalry. In fact, Sherman boasted he reached Savannah with more cattle than when he started. As to destroying the Rebel war resources, he burned a few towns, destroyed a few railroads (in many cases unusable by the Confederates) and avoided the larger defended areas of the south. In fact, the only significant losses by the Confederacy during that period were by Lee in the east and by the destruction of the Army of Tennessee by Thomas in the west. Once Hood was gone, the war in the west was over and Lee's fate was sealed. As to the march thru the Carolinas. If not for the bumbling of Bragg, he would have lost a good portion of one of his wings to Joe Johnston. Even then, he tried to avoid a fight. Don |
Posted: Sat Apr 4th, 2009 05:30 pm |
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I will differ to the sympathy that "The Iron Duke" expressed earlier and not participate in slandering or demeaning of another great general for the benefit of elevating another. This is the second thread in as many days that present to this board how the majority of historians have gotten it all wrong for a hundred plus years. I bow down to you and others that have been able to interpret the final presentation of what history should be for the rest of us. Thomas was indeed a great general in all regards and as history records a man of modesty and remarkable ability. Kind consideration for the feeling of others was one of his marked characteristics. You would think that one assuming to take his sobriquet honored the example he set in life. Buzzard ____________________ "the way to whip an enemy is to get 'em skeered, and then keep the skeer on 'em" |
Posted: Sat Apr 4th, 2009 07:10 pm |
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"I will differ to the sympathy that "The Iron Duke" expressed earlier and not participate in slandering or demeaning of another great general for the benefit of elevating another. Why is telling the truth defined as demeaning? I can prove all that I have said. After Chickamauga and Chattanooga, your heroes, Grant and Sherman demeaned Thomas at every turn. Would you like to see the easily verifiable truths in the Official O.R.'s? This is the second thread in as many days that present to this board how the majority of historians have gotten it all wrong for a hundred plus years. I bow down to you and others that have been able to interpret the final presentation of what history should be for the rest of us. What makes you think all historians are infallible? Some historians claim Grant didn't drink or drank only a little. Yet Sherman said he drank to excess. So did his wife as well as Lincoln's wife along with many others. If I'm upsetting some hero worship I sincerely apologize. But, I prefer to deal in truths or what I perceive to be truth. After the battle of Chattanooga, Grant wrote that "the battle was fought as planned." As big a falsehood that was ever claimed! Thomas was indeed a great general in all regards and as history records a man of modesty and remarkable ability. Kind consideration for the feeling of others was one of his marked characteristics. You would think that one assuming to take his sobriquet honored the example he set in life. He was also truthful and did what he thought was right and fought his battles with his men's lives at the forefront as opposed to others! I'm sorry to have offended you but the truth will out! Slowtrot |
Posted: Sat Apr 4th, 2009 11:13 pm |
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Slowtrot: You assume way too much, Sherman & Grant are not my heroes. Historical documents prove that then Col. Grant found a way to get his commission back into the Army in 1861 on the back of my ancestor he replaced in Illinois. Our family has no love for the man. I never agreed with Sherman's tactics for "Hard War", but it does not change the fact those tactics were effective. Yes Grant and Sherman demeaned Thomas. SO WHAT. Grant was a drunk. SO WHAT. Sherman was a little nutty. SO WHAT. Historians are not always correct nor get it right, but more often than not they do. What your crying about is that history didn't favor YOUR hero over the two men that were perceived by the world at the time to be the heroes. No hero worship hear my friend. Your perceived truths are just that perceived. The people of the North bet on Sherman and Grant and history records them fulfilling those bets. Grant received Lee's surrender, Sherman received Johnston's surrender, and Thomas received the surrender of who?? Yes, Thomas was a good General that played in the second theater of war that no one much cared about in the North. Your claim to his fame, is his standing his ground in the middle of a defeat while the rest of the Northern Army panicked. Okay, Go Rock It still stands that Chickamauga was a terrible defeat for the North. You rave about Missionary Ridge, but Old Slowtrot himself said he had nothing to do with his men going up the ridge. Hey, Who's in command here! General Hood decides to murder his own Army to teach them that breastworks can be charged at Franklin. NO ONE expected this including his own generals whom he left dead on the field or wounded. Schofield certainly didn't expect it, he was just trying to get the hell out of town. So Hood takes what's left of a battered, shell shocked, and demoralized army with but few veteran commanders of any rank to Nashville. We all know the begging that went on to get Old Slowtrot out of his breastworks to take on the remnants of this Army. For the life of me how this was considered a brilliant victory for Thomas, I will never know. Not much of a challenge at this point in the war, with an inept commander that just murdered his own army. Go Rock of Chickamauga! Yes, when it was all said and done in 1865 Grant and Sherman got all the glory. One was a drunk, the other a nut, but together they are perceived in truth by most to have won the war. Like you everyone is entitled to their own truths. Thomas, just overlooked I guess. A third rate general in a second theater of war. Is this the response you were looking for? Buzzard Last edited on Tue Apr 7th, 2009 09:10 pm by buzzard ____________________ "the way to whip an enemy is to get 'em skeered, and then keep the skeer on 'em" |
Posted: Sun Apr 5th, 2009 02:37 am |
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Are there any more like you around? Bye Bye! Slowtrot |
Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 03:33 am |
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slowtrot wrote: After the battle of Chattanooga, Grant wrote that "the battle was fought as planned." As big a falsehood that was ever claimed! What was the plan and how did the execution differ? HankC |
Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 04:16 pm |
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http://home.earthlink.net/~oneplez/majorgeneralgeorgehthomasblogsite/index.html The above is the URL for my web site! Go to the site and on the Title page is an index on the left. About halfway dow is a list of battles Thomas participated in. Click on that and you will go to a description of the battle. Grant issued several orders for the battle, most are explained there. If that is not satisfactory you can go to: http://aotc.net/Chattanooga.htm for another description. A bit longer than the first but similar in definition. Slowrot |
Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 05:34 pm |
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One might also go to Brett Schulte's web site wherein Bobrick's book gets a scathing review. Bobrick commented on the review and some remarkably pleasant dialogues were entered. Ole |
Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 07:52 pm |
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Here's my idea of the plan. Am interested in your differences: 1) Hooker to hold Bridgeport, maintain the cracker line and the right of the US line. 2) Sherman arrives, providing the US numerical superiority (60K to 50K), he marches behind Thomas to the left flank. 3) Hooker moves around the shoulder of lookout mountain and advances the US right flank. 4) Sherman prepares to cross the river 5) Hooker and Sherman attack the respective CS flanks 6) Thomas maintain the center and prepare to exploit any advantage. HankC |
Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 11:58 pm |
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ole Member
Thomas assails the center while Hooker, on the right, makes a looping roundhouse. Sherman is ineffective on the left, but the plan is coming together. Seems to me that the plan worked, somewhat. So there is this or that adjustment. (Plans allow for adjustments?) It remains that howevermuch Sherman's assault on the Confederate right came up short. The plan did work. Ole |
Posted: Tue Apr 7th, 2009 12:33 am |
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Mr. Hank C and Ole It appears to me that you didn't go to the sites I listed therefore you have no idea why I stated the proposition I did. If you are that close minded there's no point in discussing my statement that Grant lied about his Chattanooga plan. Pointless arguements aren't my bag. Slowtrot |
Posted: Tue Apr 7th, 2009 03:13 am |
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Chickamauga was a draw? I'm sure that would be news to the men of the Army of the Cumberland. And please explain how the Battle of Nashville is comparable with the battles of Old Fritz. ____________________ "Cleburne is here!" meant that all was well. -Daniel Harvey Hill |
Posted: Tue Apr 7th, 2009 06:09 am |
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slowtrot: I must concur with The Iron Duke's first post above. In defending Thomas, you're guilty of the same things you accuse Grant and Sherman of doing, namely slander. Thomas was always right, but Grant was a lying drunk. Thomas had the best plans, but they were corrupted by that crazy Sherman who got jealous of Grant's butchery back East. You do your argument no justice if you rely on ad hominem attacks in order to make it. That being said, Thomas was an excellent commander. (I like to think of him as the Union Longstreet. ) He performed ably throughout the war, and was superb at Chickamauga. I do agree that he has often gotten short shrift by history, though I don't believe it's because of some "liberal academic" conspiracy, as you mentioned in your initial posting. |
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True Colors
Call them gaudy, call them kitsch, but archaeologist Vinzenz Brinkmann insists his eye-popping reproductions of ancient Greek sculptures are right on target
- By Matthew Gurewitsch
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To find out what the Greek gods looked like, it would seem reasonable to start in Room 18 of the British Museum. That's the gallery devoted to the Elgin Marbles, grand trophies removed from the Parthenon in Athens between 1801 and 1805 by Thomas Bruce, seventh earl of Elgin, the British envoy to Constantinople from 1799 to 1803, when Greece was under Turkish domination. Even at the time, Elgin's action struck some as the rape of a great heritage. Lord Byron's largely autobiographical poem "Childe Harold's Pilgrimage" contains this stinging rebuke:
Dull is the eye that will not weep to see
Thy walls defaced, thy mouldering shrines removed
By British hands, which it had best behov'd
To guard those relics ne'er to be restored.
To this day, Greece continues to press claims for restitution.
The genius behind the Parthenon's sculptures was the architect and artist Phidias, of whom it was said that he alone among mortals had seen the gods as they truly are. At the Parthenon, he set out to render them in action. Fragments from the eastern gable of the temple depict the birth of Athena from the head of Zeus; those from the western gable show the contest between Athena and Poseidon for the patronage of the city. (As the city's name indicates, she won.) The heroically scaled statues were meant to be seen from a distance with ease.
But that was thousands of years ago. By now, so much of the sculpture is battered beyond recognition, or simply missing, that it takes an advanced degree in archaeology to tease out what many of the figures were up to. Yes, the occasional element—a horse's head, a reclining youth—registers sharp and clear. But for the most part, the sculpture is frozen Beethoven: drapery, volume, mass, sheer energy exploding in stone. Though we seldom think about it, such fragments are overwhelmingly abstract, thus, quintessentially "modern." And for most of us, that's not a problem. We're modern too. We like our antiquities that way.
But we can guess that Phidias would be brokenhearted to see his sacred relics dragged so far from home, in such a fractured state. More to the point, the bare stone would look ravaged to him, even cadaverous. Listen to Helen of Troy, in the Euripides play that bears her name:
My life and fortunes are a monstrosity,
Partly because of Hera, partly because of my beauty.
If only I could shed my beauty and assume an uglier aspect
The way you would wipe color off a statue.
That last point is so unexpected, one might almost miss it: to strip a statue of its color is actually to disfigure it.
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Gods in Color: Painted Sculpture of Classical Antiquity (exhibition catalogue), edited by Vinzenz Brinkmann and Raimünd Wunsche, Stiftung Archäologie, Glypotothek Munich, 2007
The Color of Life: Polychromy in Sculpture from Antiquity to the Present (exhibition catalogue), edited by Roberta Panzanelli with Eike D. Schmidt and Kenneth Lapatin, The J. Paul Getty Museum and the Getty Research Institute, Los Angeles, 2008
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So, how might these painted colors look different in light of the likely widespread colorblindness among the Ancient Greeks (e.g., Homer's 'wine-dark sea')?
Posted by Emma on September 13,2013 | 01:30 PM
There are tests that can be done on the statues to determine how they were originally painted. The Greeks mainly used the colors red, blue, and yellow so I am not surprised that his reproductions are so eye popping.
Posted by Hayden on November 1,2012 | 09:26 PM
According to author Matthew Gurewitsch on "True Colors" classical antiquity means white marble. However, ancient Greek assumes, "their gods in living color and portrayed them that way too." White-marble maybe the color of antiques which people collect them at the first time or the color they often see on the antiques, and it is also the color of a kind of precious stone that ancient used to make their items. Nevertheless, it is hard to determine what is the true colors of the temples, churches, or pagodas? Why did they choose to paint the church white, temple brown-red, and pagodas yellow? Maybe from the Renaissance, the first priests choose those colors and after that people continue to repaint. Repainted colors are never exactly original colors, but they are pleasure the eyes, and that the structures are to be saved, satisfying their owners. Similar to the author wrote, "Color contributes to beauty, but it is not beauty. Color should have a minor part in the consideration of beauty," I like this article because it explains the value of colors to the structures, and colors are not absolutely contribute to the beauty. Contrary, the white marble, the natural color of statues is more importance. However, this article is somewhat hard to understand because it is not written concise.
Posted by Nghia Cao on July 5,2012 | 02:57 PM
This is quite interesting stuff, I had no idea that Thomas Bruce was responsible for bringing those tresures from Greece - unless I misinterpreted. I really don't know if I'm understanding the poem correctly, but it seems as if the author is bragging about someone that took things from Greece. The second poem was much clearer and profoundly worded. Right before I started this post - I was reading some other comments. And someone made a very good point, how do we know when the paint was actually put on these ancient treasures - very good question! The last sentence of the passage couldn't be truer,to take paint from any type of art - is equal to disfiguement. This was a very good article and very informative
Posted by Michael D. Jones on February 28,2012 | 05:59 PM
I saw the exhibit at the Sackler and it made me look at ancient and medieval art in a whole new light. Every once in a while now, I notice a tiny residue of paint on sculptured forms I would otherwise expect to be white. (In looking at cathedrals, I'm aware that many a statue is either a copy of an original damaged long ago or is an outright neo-gothic invention of the 19th century. Sometimes when you look at those buildings and think "how did this stay so sharp after seven centuries," the answer is, "it didn't.")
Posted by John D on September 17,2011 | 06:29 PM
Check out the book 'The Sculpture and Sculptors of the Greeks' By Gisela M. A. Richter (New Revised Edition - 5th printing, 1967) New Haven and London, Yale University Press. Chapter IX Technique - P. 148 (c) Color. Richter was Curator of the Department of Classical Art at New York's Metropolitan Museum of Art from 1925 to 1948.
As a semi-retired Artist and Public School Art Teacher, it was this book that peaked my interest in painted sculpture, and sent me surfing the web until I found the Brickman's" This is the kind of art/color/picture story that would spark my street-wise students to use the web creatively, and open up an exciting forum for lively debate: A major reason why we will always need Art in the classroom and in the lives of our young people of all ages!
Posted by Jose M. Feliciano on June 25,2011 | 09:52 PM
I just reread the original article and then went online to view the slideshow. I think the point the last prior commenter made -- that the Brinkmanns may be influenced to some extent by the vibrant colors found in the painted 16th century sculpture around their hometown, Munich -- has some validity. Even more so since the Italian Renaissance sculptors, led by Michelangelo, worked in white marble, while the painters did not.
Note a typographical error on the caption in the slideshow regarding the blue lion's mane: It should be "tufts" of hair, not "tuffs."
Posted by mark gruenberg on January 20,2011 | 12:19 AM
If this is indeed the truth and is widely accepted it will change the world's perspective on Ancient Greek art forever. Fascinating...
Posted by Anna on November 18,2010 | 10:53 PM
Check out this life size reproduction of Athena and Nike from the reproduced Parthenon in Nashville Tennessee: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nashville_Parthenon_005.JPG
Posted by eric on September 9,2010 | 08:27 AM
In 2005 I was amazed when I viewed Vinzenz Brinkmann's work at the Munich Glyptothek. The next day, I was at the National Portrait Gallery in Edinburgh and felt that the statues and busts would certainly be livelier if they had a spot of paint on them. I can no longer view sculpture without envisioning them in full color.
Posted by Ted Paone on August 26,2010 | 02:12 PM
Wow, amazing! The patterns on the clothes look like Italian knitwear produced today by Missoni or Marcazzani. It reminds me of the statues of deities in India, which are clay or marble figures painted lifelike and decorated with expensive clothes and gold. Maybe in India this particular tradition of polytheistic divination has lived on, as it was practiced thousands of years ago in hellenistic times...
Posted by Mala on August 22,2010 | 04:18 PM
First of all, I am familiar with this research,and it is more than half based on speculation.But let's leave that aside...
Hundreds and hundreds of bronze statues have been found in mainland Greece, and none or at least none I have seen(and I have seen many) were golden yellow bronze,or low tin bronze, like this one (second photo from gallery)..But were dark liver,or dark grey bronze aka high tin...
Secondly no research can reveal true shade of color,especially in cases of details such as sleeve decoration???????? and due to all kinds of weather,oxygen etc effects... the color,even if someone wanted to paint them in this ridiculous manner, would be far less bright and much more washed away..Look at the fresco in orthodox churches,even in newly built ones, the painted stuff is much more..how to say,desaturated...
Posted by Vojkan on June 2,2010 | 01:42 PM
Traces of paint no doubt show that the works have been painted on. I do not know all the research done on this megaimportant question.
Has it been established just when they were painted? As asked above by Karl Young.
Is there not indications in contemporary classical literature that sculptures were without paint, or with very little? Who were the painters?
Posted by Oystein Loge on January 28,2010 | 07:27 AM
Then, dear Karl, how do you explain all these color traces in the kores found in Acropole in 1886....? Do you think that someone unearthed them, painted them and then buried them again!?
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While Ehrlich promised that the Emmys will continue with the traditional "In Memoriam" segment that viewers have grown accustomed to, this year producers made the controversial choice to select five media standouts to recognize in a special way.
Jonathan Winters, James Gandolfini, Jean Stapleton, Gary David Goldberg, and Cory Monteith will be remembered via tributes from their TV co-stars and close friends (that would be Robin Williams, Edie Falco, Rob Reiner, Michael J. Fox, and Jane Lynch, respectively). And Ehrlich admits he knew the decision would create controversy.
Where Did Bill Hader Go to Celebrate His Emmy Nom?
vlmiller at Yahoo! TV Emmys Blog3 mths agoBill Hader knows a thing (or two!) about Emmy nominations. For the past two years, the "Saturday Night Live" alum has been nominated for Best Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series for his work on the NBC late-night sketch-comedy show. "The Yo Show" recently caught up with Hader to find out how he celebrated his Emmy nomination and what he'll say if he wins.
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After host Michael Yo pointed out that a male "Saturday Night Live" regular hasn't been nominated for an Emmy since Eddie Murphy, back in 1983, he asked Hader how that made him feel. (The actor is up against "Veep" star Tony McHale, "Girls" star Adam Driver, and "Modern Family" men Ed O'Neill, Jesse Tyler Ferguson, and Ty Burrell.)
"It's cool — it's very cool," the 35-year-old funnyman said. "I was incredibly flattered. When it happened last year, I was shocked and flattered, and this year, I was incredibly flattered and shocked."
Bill Nye's Secret 'Dancing With the Stars' Mission
vlmiller at Fall TV3 mths agoBill Nye is on a mission.
When the bow-tie-wearing star hits the dance floor on the 17th season premiere of ABC's "Dancing With the Stars" (airing Sept. 16), he wants to do more than just master the cha-cha.
He wants to educate folks about space.
On his blog for the science organization The Planetary Society, the "Bill Nye the Science Guy" host called on his fellow members and colleagues to help him spread the word to get "DWTS" viewers excited about space exploration.
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From Sharks and 'The Bible' to Fashionistas and 'Community,' the Creative Arts Emmys Get Creative With Its Presenters
vlmiller at Yahoo! TV Emmys Blog3 mths agoThe Academy of Television Arts & Sciences has announced the first lineup of presenters for the 2013 Primetime Creative Arts Emmy Awards, and everyone from reality TV darlings to epic miniseries producers is on board to announce this year's winners in categories that include art direction, cinematography, makeup, music, editing, special visual effects, and more.
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Presenters include "Project Runway" hosts Heidi Klum and Tim Gunn, who are both nominated this year in the Outstanding Host for a Reality or Reality-Competition Program category. (It's also Gunn's first time as a hosting nominee, and he's feeling "numb" about it.) The duo will be joined onstage by the show's executive producer, Jon Murray.
What's the One TV Show Barbara Eden Won't Do?
vlmiller at Yahoo! TV3 mths agoBarbara Eden might know how to belly-dance her way into a genie bottle, but don't expect her to trade in that bottle for a ballroom anytime soon. The legendary "I Dream of Jeannie" star recently sat down with "The Yo Show" to talk about her time in a bottle. During the chat she told "omg! Insider's" Kristen Aldridge there's one TV show she definitely won't do.
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When Kristen mentioned that Barbara worked with "Dancing With the Stars" Pro dancer Louis Van Amstel in the past (the actress was a host for the live theater show, "Ballroom With a Twist," in 2009), the next question was — naturally — would she ever consider competing on the ABC dancing show?
Which TV Lovers Will Make Public Debut as Emmy Presenters?
vlmiller at Yahoo! TV Emmys Blog3 mths agoBut their presenting gig probably won't be the only time this dynamic duo will appear onstage. Both men — who are usually known as Oscar fixtures due to their movie star status — have been nominated for their roles in the TV movie "Behind the Candelabra." Douglas played Liberace in the HBO flick, while Damon played his longtime lover, Scott Thorson. The movie is up for a whopping total of 15 nominations.
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Perhaps even more surprising is the fact that this year's ceremony will mark the first time that Douglas or Damon has ever presented at the Emmy Awards.
Michael Douglas's Emmy nominations date back to 1974 for his role in "The Streets of San Francisco." He's also been recognized for a guest-starring stint on "Will & Grace" and has racked up a total of five Emmy nominations over the past 40 years.
Damon's Emmy nominations match Douglas's and include his guest-starring role on "30 Rock" as well as several noms for "Project Greenlight."
Chris Siegfried's 6 Biggest 'Bachelorette' Moments, Set to His Own Verse
vlmiller at Yahoo! TV3 mths agoChris Siegfried isn't just the winner of the latest edition of "The Bachelorette." He's also a poetry man. And in case you're wondering how he pulled Desiree Hartsock out of the dumps after she was, um, dumped by Brooks Forester, let's face it, it was his poetry, man. This guy can whip up some serious verse at the drop of a rose (wasn't he perfect on that message-in-a-bottle date?), and now he's even published his own poetic memoir called "Diamonds + Hearts."
Check out Chris Siegfried's biggest "Bachelorette" moments, set to his own prose:
How the 'I Dream of Jeannie' Bottle Survived the Northridge Earthquake of '94 [Exclusive Clip]
vlmiller at Yahoo! TV3 mths agoChristina Aguilera's got nothing on Barbara Eden! Decades before "The Voice" mentor dropped her breakout hit song, Barbara Eden played a hot genie (named Jeannie!) in a bottle on the classic sitcom "I Dream of Jeannie."
The legendary actress recently zapped in for a chat with "The Yo Show" and gave Kristen Aldridge the dirt on the show's magic bottle, as well as her secrets for staying in shape.
So what's the story behind the bottle that housed Jeannie?
[Related: Barbara Eden Remembers Larry Hagman: He Was 'A Wonderful Rascal']
"It was really a coincidence," Eden said of the bottle's origin. "They were looking for a bottle, thinking they would have to make one, and they discovered that Jim Beam had a Christmas bottle that year. I don't know where all the liquor went that was inside those bottles. But we had dozens of crates of bottles and they had painted the bottles."
Valerie Harper Gives an Update on Her Terminal Cancer Diagnosis on 'Today Show' [Video]
vlmiller at Yahoo! TV3 mths agoEarlier this year, when Valerie Harper announced her terminal cancer diagnosis (she suffers from a rare condition, leptomeningeal carcinomatosis), the prospects were grim. The incurable brain cancer diagnosis had doctors telling the actress she had only about three months to live.
In this sneak peek at the upcoming NBC special "Valerie's Story — a Meredith Vieira Special," it appears that the star's health may have taken an unexpected turn for the better.
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In the clip, "Today" host Vieira talked to Harper's physician, neuro-oncologist Dr. Jeremy Rudnick, who said, "I'd say that we're getting pretty close to remission."
Victor Newman Pays Tribute to Katherine Chancellor at Her 'Young and the Restless' Memorial [Exclusive Video]
vlmiller at Yahoo! TV3 mths agoSometimes actors don't have to act.
When cast members of the long-running CBS daytime drama "The Young and the Restless" gathered to film scenes for Katherine Chancellor's memorial service, the co-stars of actress Jeanne Cooper honored not only an iconic soap opera character, but also a real-life friend. In other words, those tears were real.
Cooper passed away on May 8, after nearly 40 years of playing matriarch Katherine Chancellor on the CBS soap, a role that earned her 11 Daytime Emmy nominations and a win for best actress in a daytime drama series in 2008.
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In this exclusive sneak peek at the memorial episodes (airing September 3 and 4), actor Eric Braeden, who plays "Y&R's" wealthy businessman Victor Newman, delivers a moving tribute that includes a flashback clip with his longtime friend Kay. (We expect there will be a lot of those during this two-day tribute, so keep the tissues handy.)


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Boudreau: Ovechkin's more alive, looks quicker and sharper (update)
Starts @01:10.
Don't know who asked the question, but in the question he said, "Alex said today that he feels fresher, lighter (though he has the same weight), than in February of last year."
Update:Well, it was Dan Rosen, NHL.com Senior Writer, who asked that question:
ARLINGTON, Va. -- There's a reason Alex Ovechkin says he feels fresher and lighter heading into the stretch run of this season compared to last season. It might be due to a conscious decision he made in the fall.
Ovechkin wouldn't come out and say it directly, but he hinted after Monday's practice that he made sure to keep some energy in his tank for the post All-Star break drive to the Stanley Cup Playoffs. That's not to say he wasn't playing hard and trying to be his best in the first 50 games of the season, but Ovechkin is consciously aware of what's important for him and the Capitals now that he's deep into his sixth NHL season.
It's no longer about personal statistics and individual awards.
"Of course I want to be on top, and of course I want to do my best, but the most important thing is to be in the playoffs and do what Chicago did when they won the Stanley Cup," Ovechkin told NHL.com.
Ovechkin said his weight hasn't changed, but he feels lighter and thinks it's translating into better shifts and more scoring chances. He doesn't believe it has anything to do with the new trainer he used this past summer.
"My conditioning is good getting closer to the playoffs and that's the most important thing," Ovechkin said. "That's where I want to be right now, in this kind of situation, what I'm feeling right now, how I feel right now."
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According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), pathogens such as Salmonella, E. coli, and Listeria cause an estimated 14 million cases of foodborne illnesses each year, resulting in about 60,000 hospitalizations and 1,800 deaths. Foodborne illness symptoms can range from mild gastroenteritis to life-threatening renal syndromes. The populations most susceptible to the more serious symptoms include very young children, individuals 60 years and older, pregnant women, and people who have a weakened immune system. In 2007, about 20 to 25 percent of the U.S. population was in this high-risk category. Moreover, consumers' vulnerability to foodborne illness is increasing as a result of changes in demographics, among other things. For example, older Americans will make up an estimated 20 percent of the U.S. population by 2015. The pathogens that account for much of the most severe foodborne illness can be greatly reduced by subjecting food to ionizing radiation, also known as food irradiation. Many experts believe that irradiation can be effectively incorporated into an establishment's food safety program to further ensure the safety of the food against pathogens. Irradiation can also be used as a phytosanitary treatment where it is applied at low doses to safeguard natural resources by replacing fumigation or other chemical treatments to eliminate particular plant pests from fruits and vegetables imported into the United States. This report responds to Congressional request for information on food irradiation. Our objectives were to determine (1) how Department of Health and Human Services' Food and Drug Administration's (FDA) current labeling requirements for irradiated food products compare with the Department of Agriculture's (USDA) labeling requirements and how FDA's proposed changes to its requirements might impact the amount of food that is irradiated and (2) the extent to which FDA has effectively managed the petition review process for irradiated food.
Although FDA's and USDA's labeling requirements for irradiated foods have some commonalities, they differ in important ways. The requirements are similar in that both agencies generally require that labels on irradiated foods packaged for retail sale include the international food irradiation symbol--the radura and a statement disclosing that the food has been exposed to ionizing radiation. FDA and USDA also allow processors to add additional language to the labels to identify the source of the radiation and purpose of the treatment. However, FDA's and USDA's labeling requirements for irradiated foods differ in two important ways. First, labels on food products subject to FDA jurisdiction do not have to be reviewed and preapproved by FDA before marketing. Rather, the processor is responsible for properly labeling its products. In fact, FDA officials told us that they do not collect information on how irradiated foods are labeled and marketed. In contrast, USDA reviews and preapproves all labels before use on meat and poultry products and has denied label submissions that do not meet its requirements. Second, FDA and USDA have different requirements when an irradiated ingredient is used in a multiingredient product. Specifically, FDA does not require the product's ingredient list to disclose that a particular ingredient has been irradiated, while USDA generally does. For the six currently pending food irradiation petitions, FDA has not met key statutory and regulatory time frames for the review of food additive petitions--which include petitions for new uses of irradiation on food--and has failed to consistently document its decisions about these petitions. Moreover, FDA has not communicated key information to the affected petitioners. As a result, FDA's petition review process lacks transparency and leads to misunderstandings and confusion among petitioners. FDA is required to notify petitioners, within specified time frames, about certain decisions it has made regarding the petitions. For example, FDA regulations require that within 15 days of receiving a petition submission, FDA must notify the petitioner as to whether FDA will accept the petition and file it in the federal docket. However, FDA did not do so for five of the six pending petitions.
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With them having no record label, they really rely on fans to help with promoting. Would you like to join the DS Army?
Send them your name, address & phone number (in case they wanna call you & thank you for an awesome job of promoting).
How awesome would that be, to get a phone call from them!
Also if you use facebook or twitter, you can always help promoting that way as well. Thats what i'm doing just now and i have been thanked so many times by each member of the band.
Digital Summer will love you for all the help.
Thanks so much for helping guys.
Depending on where you live, there MAY BE a customs charge on the package. I'm not sure but i will let you know.
I have signed up to the street team. im currently waiting on my promo stuff being shipped out. I will let you guys know what is included in the package when i recieve it.
DS are starting to ship out my promo stuff. which is so cool. also they pay the shipping charge so u shouldn't have to pay anything.
This is what they will send, flyers and stickers.im not sure how many they will send yet but ill keep u updated
i got sent some promo stuff with my merch that should keep me going until the rest of my promo stuff arrives
I'm so excited right now. I had asked this question to DS http://fburls.com/95-klmxjpfC
And i have been chatting with ian! This is the email he sent me.
so heres what im thinking... ill send you a large package of promo items (soon hopefully), and all the European DS Army people that sign up through this email, ill forward to you. you can keep track using Excel (windows) or numbers(mac) if you have any of those programs, and ill show you how i keep track of it all. And you can do the send outs as you get the requests. will something like that work for now? That way it still keeps me in the loop with the intial requests from DS Army members and gives me an idea on how many packages are going out.
If it starts to get bigger (which im sure it will the way you promote!), we can figure out another plan, maybe creating a separate DS Army email for International members? and just have you run it completely on your own down the line.
let me know your thoughts, or if you have any ideas of your own
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Gordon Brown is to become the UN's special envoy for global education.
The former prime minister, who is MP for Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath, will lead a campaign to ensure every child is at school by the end of 2015.
He will accompany UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon on a tour of Asia in August, as part of his new position.
Mr Brown said his appointment was a great privilege, adding: "Ensuring that every child in the world has the opportunity to go to school and to learn is a long-standing passion of mine, and I aim to learn from other special envoys such as (former) president Clinton, Kofi Annan and Ray Chambers.
"Education breaks the cycle of poverty and unlocks better health and better job prospects."
Mr Brown said that meeting the goal would require enrolling an additional 61 million children in school.
"It will not be easy - but it is a goal which, working together, we can achieve," he said.
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Admittedly the majority of techPowerUp! readers are probably more interested in building their own gaming computers than buying them from large OEMs, but Dell has now launched its latest incarnation of the XPS gaming desktop. The XPS 630 is the first pre-built PC from any major manufacturer to support the Enthusiast System Architecture (ESA), and comes equipped with an nForce 650 chipset, two PCIe x16 slots, four HDD bays and Corsair DOMINATOR memory – the base model features an Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 CPU and a 512MB GeForce 8800 GT graphics card. Dell itself sanctions overclocking, commenting that both the CPU and memory can be pushed beyond stock speeds. The base model costs $1,299 and comes with a two year warranty, going on sale tomorrow. Sources: DailyTech, Dell
darn. i bought the xps 420 in december with no upgrades.. not they have this.. o well at least i got a $200 gift card out of the deal :-/ but man.. the option for oc'in and sli..
That's actually a decent deal for a prebuilt. I'm impressed. I do hope there are options for better chipsets tho.
They probably realized that all of their enthusiasts were building there own rather than buying their XPS line.
Now, all we have to do is convince them to step away from BTX. Although I do like their case's styling.
This one is a nice standard ATX motherboard, so should be nice and easy to upgrade. Edit: well, Dell says: Not sure what 'based on' means, could mean it is ATX, could mean it's like ATX but with one or two Dell modifications.
Good, now I can tell my friend to throw away that p.o.s. HP he has and go buy this instead.. (Well, Dell is better than HP.. Right??)
dell offers more for the price. only bad thing is the bad customer service, because they are from another country. had my share of the problems already but I got $25 out of it man i wish they had this when i bought the xps 420. having the ability to oc is so tempting, but of course i wanted to build my own computer in the first place.
omg i wonder if i could sell my xps 420 for 1k because thats what i bought it for. "Customers who subscribed for a pre-launch discount received an email today with details on a limited time promotional configuration. The special $1,299 configuration includes an Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q6600 processor, dual NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB graphics cards with SLI technology and 2-year limit warranty and In-Home service." what a frigin deal. it pwns what i bought for 1k-ish. q6600 3gb @667mhz 320gb hd single optical drive hd2400 pro 128mb 375w psu
Wait a minute, NForce 600 series and ESA? I thought it was something NForce 700 came with. Very decent price.
Idk I was looking at cnet's review and it looks like the board is upside down...so the cpu is in the bottom right hand corner...at least that's what I think I saw. So It's ATX, but flipped.
Actually, no. It's powered by a 750-watt PSU, and if that's not enough for you, it's always possible to swap it for 1 kWatt PSU or higher.
this looks like alienware leaking into dells lineup. Seriously, if this got paired with a 24" 1920x1200 dell screen with HDCP.... i'd buy it. the price is good as it is, and with quality peripherals its not going to be weak. *looks at mini 2.0 w/ 22" * hells yeah!


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text: Anatomically Distinct Dopamine Release During Anticipation and Experience of Peak Emotion to Music Music has long been recognized as both an abstract and rewarding stimulus that produces feelings of euphoria and pleasure in many listeners. Music may also elicit emotional responses from listeners and alter affective states. While music has been present across multiple cultures and societies throughout time, the experience of pleasure while listening to music is highly specific, personal and subjective. In a study featured in Nature Neuroscience last February, Salimpoor and others set out to study what goes on in the brain of individuals while they listened to enjoyable/pleasurable music. For the study, subjects were asked to bring their own pleasurable music, and the other subjects' music was used as neutral music for comparison. Dopamine release while listening to music was estimated indirectly by using ligand-based positron emission tomography (PET) scan in which 11C raclopride, a radioactively labeled ligand, competes with endogenous dopamine for D2 receptor binding. The assumption is that if brain areas are experiencing surges of dopamine release, they binding capacity of 11C raclopride will decrease in these areas. The experience of feeling chills, a marker of peak emotional responses to music, was self-reported by the subjects. In addition, psychophysiological measurements (i.e. respiration rate, heart rate, skin conductance, temperature) were also conducted while the subjects listened to music while undergoing PET scanning. PET scanning revealed changes in 11C raclopride binding in the striatum, specifically in the right caudate and the right nucleus accumbens. There was also a significant positive correlation between reports of chills and feelings of overall pleasure, perhaps indicating that chills may serve as an objective measure of pleasure while listening to music. The experience of overall greater pleasure while music listening was also correlated with greater autonomic nervous system arousal, as indexed by changes in psychophysiological measurements. To assess the temporal dynamics in dopamine release, the group employed functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) while subjects listened to neutral or pleasurable music. Subjects were asked to press a button whenever they felt chills (typically during pleasurable moments), and the 15s prior to the pressing of the button, which indicated chills + pleasure, were denoted as the anticipation window. Thus, dopamine release was studied in two different time periods: anticipation period (15s before reported pleasure and chills), and peak response (chills/pleasure). When the fMRI scans were conjoined with the PET masks, the group was able to identify a temporally mediated BOLD response in the right side of dorsal (caudate) and ventral (nucleus accumbens) striatum that corresponded with anticipation epochs and peak experience, respectively. Moreover, as demonstrated above, behavioral measures like the number of reported chills were more correlated with 11C raclopride binding changes in the right caudate while intensity of chills and overall degree of reported pleasure were more significantly correlated with changes in 11C raclopride binding potential in the right nucleus accumbens. In summary, the experience of pleasure while listening to music acts on the brain similarly to other rewards like food, sex and drugs. Listening to pleasurable music targets striatal areas associated with mesolimbic reward circuitry and dopaminergic neurotransmission. Source: Salimpoor, et al. 2011. Anatomically Distinct Dopamine Release During Anticipation and Experience of Peak Emotion to Music. Nature Neuroscience. doi:10.1038/nn.2726 112 notes Permalink PET anticipation autonomic nervous system behavior chills dopamine emotion fMRI music neuroimaging pleasure reward striatum mesolimbic dopamine caudate nucleus accumbens


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