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Clarence Darrow: Jury Tamperer?
Newly unearthed documents shed light on claims that the famous criminal attorney bribed a juror
- By John A. Farrell
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On a rainy night in Los Angeles in December 1911, Clarence Darrow arrived at the apartment of his mistress, Mary Field. They sat at the kitchen table, beneath a bare overhead light, and she watched with dismay as he pulled a bottle of whiskey from one pocket of his overcoat and a handgun from the other.
"I'm going to kill myself," he told her. "They're going to indict me for bribing the McNamara jury. I can't stand the disgrace."
The great attorney had come to Los Angeles from Chicago to defend James and John McNamara, brothers and unionists accused of conspiring to bomb the Los Angeles Times, the city's anti-union newspaper, killing 20 printers and newsmen. But jury selection had not gone well, and Darrow feared the brothers would hang.
One morning a few weeks earlier, Darrow had taken an early streetcar to his office in the Higgins Building, the new ten-story Beaux-Arts structure at the corner of Second and Main Streets. At around 9 a.m. the telephone rang. Darrow spoke briefly to the caller. Then he picked up his hat and left the building, heading south on the sidewalk along Main.
Meanwhile, his chief investigator, a former sheriff's deputy named Bert Franklin, was two blocks away, passing $4,000 to a prospective member of the McNamara jury who had agreed to vote not guilty.
Franklin, in turn, was under police surveillance: The juror had reported the offer to the authorities, who had set up a sting. Franklin now sensed that he was being watched and headed up Third Street to Main. There he was arrested—just as Darrow joined him.
Franklin became a witness for the state, and in January 1912, Darrow was arrested and charged with two counts of bribery.
With the help of another legendary trial lawyer, California's Earl Rogers, Darrow was acquitted in one trial, and the other ended with a hung jury. He returned to Chicago broke and disgraced, but he picked up the pieces of his career and became an American folk hero—champion of personal liberty, defender of the underdog, foe of capital punishment and crusader for intellectual freedom.
Darrow's ordeal in Los Angeles 100 years ago was eclipsed by his later fame. But for a biographer the question is insistent: Did America's greatest defense attorney commit a felony and join in a conspiracy to bribe the McNamara jurors? In writing a new account of Darrow's life, with the help of fresh evidence, I concluded that he almost certainly did.
The Los Angeles Law Library is on Broadway, across the street from the lot, now empty, where the bombing destroyed the Los Angeles Times building. The library holds the 10,000-page stenographic record of Darrow's first bribery trial. It is a moving experience to page through the testimony so close to where the carnage took place.
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To Make Men Free,
Excellent point...and quite possible a scenario going off the man's past actions.
But personally even though I am a staunch atheist (& subscriber to the overwhelming fact that is evolution) it is precisely the fact that a person such as Darrow may plausibly defend a creationist at a hypothetical trial that makes him so heroic in my eyes.
There could be times when a "creationists" freedom of religion is violated, and regardless of one's personal beliefs, the truly noble will defend the rights and freedoms of all parties, regardless.
The man is a model to follow in many ways...
(Insert really cliche Voltaire quote)
PS- Clearly I don't mean to insinuate Darrow would ever believe nonsense such as Creationism, but simply that he would defend someone's right to believe in it....
Posted by DrugStarCowboy on February 29,2012 | 10:56 AM
I'm confused - when were the bribery trials? If they were before 1913, then why would he be sending a bribe 14 years later in 1927? This article is interesting, but it would have been better had the dates of these incriminating letters and the trial dates been made clearer. I'm not entirely sure they point to guilt so much as a guilty conscience, and a guilty conscience doesn't always mean a person is actually guilty of a crime.
Posted by Sam on December 29,2011 | 11:33 AM
Mr. Farrell tried to present backstory but his article came off more like gossip. The main thesis seems to be "a lot of people saying 'he would have' adds up to 'he probably did'." No matter how hard the author worked to dig up subjective impressions, such a syllogism would not pass muster in a critical thinking course. But that wasn't the most disturbing aspect of the article. Rather, I found it bizarrely naive, or perhaps disingenuous, that Mr. Farrell labels the unionist McNamara brothers "terrorists" but considers the Ku Klux Klan to be mere "bullies." Dictionaries generally define terrorism as the "use of intimidation in the pursuit of political aims." When in its long history has the Klan not been political?
Posted by Martin Schell on December 29,2011 | 11:23 AM
A fascinating article. I've added the book to my "to-read" list in Goodreads. However, the line about the John Scopes trial should prompt another re-evaluation of Clarence Darrow. The author contends that it was a victory for academic freedom. If so, we need to ask ourselves which side Mr. Darrow would be on if he took a similar case today. Based on the fact that today evolution is the enforced state doctrine on creation, I expect that Mr. Darrow would be defending some teacher for teaching Biblical creation. If such a scenario could possibly occur, I suspect that many who praise him today would then condemn him, and many that now condemn him would instead praise him. He was, apparently, a difficult man for us to understand.
Posted by Make Men Free on December 11,2011 | 08:32 AM
He's been one of my heroes since I read the Irving Stone biography as a teenager. He still is.
Posted by Susan Fox on December 6,2011 | 11:08 PM
Esau was Jacob's older brother.
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It's time to renew the American promise and to recapture any American Graham.
-- give our nation and new birth of freedom.
But liberty equality.
And justice for all we will not duck the tough issues we will lead.
We will not blame others we will take responsibility.
And we will not try to transform this country into something it was never intended to be we will not try to replace our founding principles.
We will re apply our founding principal.
You know there's a reason why we -- those two bytes together Jack candidate Paul -- the late Jack up -- a vice presidential candidate in his own right in 1996.
He was of the inspiration for the Reagan tax cuts at the time -- -- a great Kemp Roth cuts and I would have senator Roth found at the time to take your argument he brought the tenth.
Tax cuts -- that has it made those big.
Cuts in in tax rates and they were huge cuts in taxes remember we -- from a high of a top rate north of 70% eventually bring him down.
-- -- about just a magnitude of that everyone said.
Alert we're gonna fall apart of course it triggered an economic boom the likes of which we have never seen in American history.
This guy of course was just so probably a toddler at that time a body remembers -- -- -- revolution very well I'm honored to have them with us today -- camp.
A great football player in his own right and it doesn't obsess about all things Buffalo Bills which is fine by me -- -- very good at all they're -- thank you very much -- -- -- bomb.
-- -- -- -- -- -- Unbiased happens there was a huge fan of your dad's -- for many many many years and admired his.
Financial gutsy yes because people forget -- the time he was talking about it.
Undated -- this will be financial Armageddon if these tax cuts go through it right they proved to be just a -- Yeah they they were just the cut the tonic and it is such -- it was such confident message that then that is your right -- was confident.
In these ideas and he understood the John Jack Kennedy had done this as president had cut tax rates and that.
This is the way the world works you provide incentive government.
Allows incentives to work and people.
Will rise to the occasion and that's what America wants and the Republicans have got to continue to have that confident message that's what Paul is such a great pick.
Because he's confident these ideas he knows them and is able to communicate and so what -- -- important.
Aspect of this ticket a crucial aspect yes Tom.
You know your dad couldn't help Bob Dole in 96 can Paul Ryan helped Mitt Romney.
That the analogy that I really see is is -- to Reagan in eighty.
And that's what right it is to Romney in 2012 that was a 44 year old congressman.
In 1989.
And 43 and seven -- when Reagan adopted his economic platform and made that his own -- on that.
And Reagan didn't ask -- to be the vice presidential nominee.
But they had a great relationship in -- carried the water on the hill and Paul Ryan is -- -- And wonderful alternately you mention it because people forget the house was not.
Republican little when Reagan came in and let's that he tipped the senate his way but the house was was not until -- -- come under for absolutely so.
Your your father had some really.
Marshal the troops not only those -- Boll weevil Democrats.
But he was the guy made that happen in the -- Sleazy people forget that bill is Paul Ryan in a potential Romney administration.
Likely to play the same type of role.
Bombed obviously will be different because Cole field house and more -- he had let you connect.
Should -- can go you can also all the all those men and women grew in the house.
-- -- Brian Republicans.
He's their leader it took them a little while to come.
Who to come on board right but the key to growth right now he's getting our -- -- -- it under control.
And we have the message for growth and yes you need to have tax rates at the right.
-- that the argument has been one -- -- -- tax rates every knows that they need to be low then it would be incredibly.
Catastrophic would -- catastrophic but -- must be hugely difficult if the bush tax cuts that expire.
And up.
The best chance of that happening is reluctant Obama -- we've got to get Romney Ryan -- tax rates at -- the right level and then.
And you -- -- -- -- since he passed away.
We're trillion dollars more into tomorrow that they'll do -- feel all the more support of what you're saying we say it will son.
Our options are limited now look at that debt clock -- we we we -- what do you think do you think my dad -- said the options are limited that is.
-- that's what's called softball could think that would typically what's it.
Thank you -- well you know what he would say he would say this is the opportunity is right.
Where we should be -- position to present -- confident message it is the Republican message to message for everyone in the country we want to leave anyone behind.
And -- it's got to work in our cities and our Barrios.
And you know throughout the country and ultimately throughout the world because this is the American idea which at its root.
Is the human idea.
You know it's fear of the apple doesn't fall far from the tree it happens all of -- Just you know good -- races Jimmie thank you very very much -- camps here are good and entire family dozens dead.
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Transfer to MV Aisha and lunch on board. In the afternoon we cruise to South Male Atoll, with the opportunity for swimming or snorkeling at a nearby reef. In the evening we go for night fishing close to the outter reef. Dinner on board.
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The MAROON Vol. 60, No. 11 Loyola I'nivcrsilv, Xcw Orleans Xovcmbcr 18, 19 Financial conflict flares between SGA and SBA By Glenn P. Collins Maroon Reporter A conflict over finances that has been brewing between the Student Government Association and the Student Bar Association since last year has flared up again this semester. Last year's squabble resulted in the entire law school delegation threatening to pull out of SGA. The disagreement this semester is over the fact that all students, including law students, pay an SGA fee. The SGA allocates money annually to the SBA. Law school organizations get funds from both SBA and SGA. It seems, therefore, that the SGA is paying twice for law school activities. A&S Delegation President Adrianne Serrano, citing one example, said, "I think that the Code (the law school newspaper) is a necessary publication, but I don't think it should be SGA's job as a yearly thing to fund it." SGA President Ivan Ransopher said, "We intend to define the roles of the SGA and SBA." Commenting on Ransopher's proposal to define the roles of the two organizations, SBA President John Young said, "I think its presumptuous for him to propose to define the roll of SBA unilaterally." Young said a split between the two organizations is necessary. "It would eliminate an SGA headache, and establish more funds for law school organizations. "With the split," Young continued, "we can coordinate law school activities better. Hopefully the SGA can accomplish that on the undergraduate level. Both organizations will be better off with the split." Young said whenever the SBA goes to the SGA for money, "They don't give us the benefit of the doubt. 1 don't believe we are getting as fair a chance as other organizations." As far as the split goes, Ransopher said it was brought up last year. "I'm not in favor of it," he said. "The law delegation adds a little bit of accent to the congress." Several law school organizations have not received all the funds they requested from SGA because SGA said their activities were not well attended by undergraduates or. were not of general interest to the entire Loyola community. Young said SBA "tells law school organizations to go the SGA first simply because we don't have too much money to give them. "Many people feel that we [law students] are getting more than we deserve, but in reality we aren't getting it." "The whole process of obtaining funds is a headache for SBA," Young re-emphasized. "We can't effectively plan the full range of our activities because the amount of money coming from SGA is uncertain." Long lines outside of Marquette Hall signaled the beginning of pre-registration. The line up Laundry profit percentage will go to dorm renovations By Shirley Thompson Maroon Reporter Part of a proposal to lower the price of washer and dryer facilities in the residence halls and to create a renovation fund for the residence halls from university rebates has been approved by the Very Rev. James C. Carter, S.J., president of Loyola. The proposal by the Biever and Women's Residence Councils was the result of an increase in laundry prices this semester from 50 cents to 75 cents. Following an investigation by Ann Curran and James Gordon, WRC and BRC Research and Facilities Improvement Committee chairpersons, a proposal requesting lower prices and a renovation fund was drawn up. Vincent Knipfing, vice president for Student Affairs, presented the proposal to Carter on behalf of BRC and WRC. Loyola receives a cut of the income brought in by the laundry machines, which are owned and distributed by Fo-coin. The contract Loyola has with Fo-coin does not allow the university to lower the cost, but a compromise has been reached and a percentage of this income will be set aside for the renovation fund that will be used for improvements in the residence halls. The exact amount that will be given to WRC and BRC has not yet been confirmed. The proposal pointed out that the substantial 50 percent increase in laundry prices would affect students in the long run. The average student who paid $32 a semester for laundry last year is now paying $48 dollars a semester. After a period of four years, that student would spend $128 more than he would under last year's prices. Also included in the proposal were the results of a survey of residents taken by the WRC and BRC Research and Facilities Improvement Committees concerning the price increase. According to these results, 93 percent of the residents felt the increase is unjustified. Ninety-two percent of the students said that they would, or already do, go to other local laundries that provide better or less expensive services. Eighty percent of the students felt that the rebate received by Loyola should be placed into a renovation fund for the residence halls. The Research and Facilities Im- —Photo by Rennie Truitt Proposals by SGA and A&S call for end to diploma issue By Glenn P. Collins Maroon Reporter Both the Student Government Association and the College of Arts and Sciences Dean's Student Advisory Council have come up with proposals to end the diploma issue. The issue is that diplomas are not given out at graduation. SGA Arts & Sciences Delegation President Adriaqne Serrano said, "We are waiting to see if the Dean's Student Advisory Council's [proposal] goes through. If their proposal doesn't get through, we are going to send ours to Dr. Robert A. Preston, vice president for Academic Affairs." Preston said when the SGA's proposal is sent to him, "I will take it to the Dean's Council." Deans from all colleges sit on this council, and Preston is the chairman. Preston said previous presentations concerning diplomas "have not dealt with the real issues.' Preston said the real issues include an inconvenience to out-of-town seniors, band members who play at graduation, and parents of graduates. The SGA's proposal contains three major parts: • A computer printout of all the people who have applied for graduation will be distributed to all the teachers. • Grades will be due in the Dean's office at 5 p.m. on May 14 or May 15. • Through hiring some temporary extra help, and/or use of a student volunteer corps, the process could be expedited so graduation could go on as scheduled with diplomas being distributed at the ceremony. 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2011-02-14, 21:25 | Link #7842 | |
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- Silvia: Tsund.... Saint and probably reaching new power levels if she is going outside Aeon of Osiris if Ollerus' research about Aeon of Horusis going well. - Fiamma: The Right Hand of God. Currently weakened but... suspected to be inmortal . - Index: If she gets some help to be free from bitchy-bitchy Laura, well, yeah, damn hax too. Mix those 4 together and Aiwass will seriously have to rethink if it should keep looking humans as mere ants. Same for Crowley.
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Each of them unique in the magic world, each of them overpowered... If only Index can activate her magic powers... I wonder what happens if she gets a hold on her remote, would she be able to hack it? |
2011-02-15, 01:11 | Link #7849 | |
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But essentially it shouldn't be any different from the volumes without Touma as a lead... Unless the Author wants to try something poetic and show how the world is a dark and sorrowful place without it's Hero... But that might be abit too dramatic |
2011-02-15, 01:19 | Link #7851 |
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Well personally I'd have to disagree; tossing out Touma's character at such a character cliffhanger point is ridiculous and dumb. I'm fine with him disappearing for a volume, MAYBE two, to bring about some development. (although I don't know what development it could bring Mikoto; she's already realized her feelings for him, Index pretty much acknowledged her feelings for him since the end of the first arc, and beyond that I don't see how either could develop as characters due to Touma's absence, especially since neither of them are mentioned in the summary for New Testament which makes it sound like they won't be there either) That would be fine if it's for the sake of story/plot/development, but anything like Sasuke "leaving" in Naruto Shippuden would be stupid.
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Which is? You are familiar with the events in the World War 3 arc, right? The only cliffhangers there that aren't addressed in the new book's spoilers are Fiamma's fate with Ollerus and Sylvia (who I hope would get the screentime that's usually for Touma while he's gone ) and Laura Stuart's plan to take down AC. Everything regarding Touma's character was pretty much resolved (even the memory loss). He broke Accelerator's illusions on Heroes and Villains and Fiamma's illusions on "saving the world", and his importance to Aleister Crowley's plan was even given a little focus. Of course, because of this importance, his return is pretty much guaranteed. New Testament is a new beginning of sorts, kinda like the world rebuilding after the world war, and Kamachi did mention in Volume 22's epilogue that the next book will be about "the world that has been saved".
And you are familiar with Volume 15 and 19, right? Touma is not even mentioned in 15, and is only mentioned in passing in 19. And you do know that Touma is not the only main character, right? There are three main characters (see the Three_Heroes MAD I posted in the video thread, and Volume 22 afterword). Not one of them holds importance over the other, and you cannot single one out as being more "main" than the rest, as they all follow different paths that sometimes intertwine. The story can stand on its own without Touma for a while. This universe is massive, and there are lots of characters and plot threads that are influenced by the loss of this one trump card of sorts. I bet Kamachi would want to capitalize on this first before reintroducing him physically to the plot. He also stopped Mikoto in Volume 16. And he also stopped her from saving him in 22. Touma also stopped Index from getting involved in the Daihaseisai and Volume 16, and he also tried to stop Itsuwa from going against Acqua.
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You yourself also just stated that his role in Aleister's plan was given a "little" focus; what about the rest of his role? Quote:
Yes Touma isn't the only main character, as I specifically said myself in my immediately previous post, but he's the main character, not a main character. There's a reason Accelerator and Shiage have less main character focus than Touma overall. That would be because Toaru Index is mainly about Touma. Plenty of other anime/manga/light novels have shifted focus to another character as the main for an arc, but the main main character doesn't change. Quote:
Second, in volume 22, how does stopping her from saving him = stopping her from getting involved at all? Those were different circumstances. On the Index part, I suppose that's true, but then again that's a whole different thing from Mikoto because Index doesn't (consciously) have the high attack power Mikoto has. (i.e. she can't blow stuff up with a railgun) So naturally he'd worry about her getting hurt in the fight. Itsuwa is always getting in on the action. But all of that is beside my point; even if Touma was actively trying to stop them, there' really nothing he could do to succeed in stopping them if they want to help him fight. He's not going to knock them unconscious or anything; if they didn't keep choosing for themselves not to fight (which, again, is stupid), then there would be nothing he could do to stop them. So Touma's not the reason Mikoto and Index don't get more action; the author keeps shafting them on that. Again, I refer to volume 16 where Mikoto goes completely out of character and doesn't follow him to the fight. This is Mikoto we're talking about; she sees someone in trouble, she helps them. All the more so there, where she first acknowledged that she was in love with him. Not only did Touma give little to no resistance against her trying to help him fight, but the novel gave no reason for why she didn't go after him. The novel only pointed out why she didn't stop him.
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Ever since their character arc, they haven't really change that much at all, no matter what happens at the core they remain the same. Shaken but not stirred. But now with an important person in their life gone, we get a chace to throw the 'holy stone' into their pond to see the ripples, we get to peek into their heads and see how the gears turns, we get to finally see something out of the norm for once. I have no issue with where the plot would lead, but I've notice that the author has been very 'cautious' when it comes to character development, and if Touma disappearing is what it takes to get a reaction out of people, then by all means do what you have to do. Last edited by Chaos2Frozen; 2011-02-15 at 04:16. |
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However, like I said, I'm still fine with a temporary leave from Touma for the sake of character/plot/story focus/development. I'm just saying that he's not some side character to be tossed away, and his presence doesn't hurt the focus/development of other characters action or character-wise.
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